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Description
San Bruno Special City Council Meeting October 19, 2021
Whole Meeting
trt: 1:12:10
A
A
C
A
Here
next
will
be
public
comment
for
items
on
the
agenda.
Just
as
a
reminder
today
is
a
public
hearing
in
regards
to
the
transition
to
district-based
elections
so
other
than
that.
If
there's
something
that
other
than
that
topic,
somebody
from
the
audience
or
public
wishes
to
speak.
Please
raise
your
hand
at
this
time
and
we'll
bring
you
into
the
room.
A
See
no
hands
we'll
move
on
into
the
topic
of
tonight's
meeting,
which
is
to
hold
a
public
hearing
and
provide
information
regarding
the
process
of
transition
to
district-based
elections
for
council
members
and
at
this
time,
I'd
like
to
turn
it
over
to
our
city
manager
to
provide
some
introductory
remarks.
And
then
we
also,
of
course,
have
the
district
collections
consultant
and
other
staff
that
will
be
available
manager.
C
Good
afternoon,
mayor
medina
members
of
the
city
council,
javon
grogan,
your
city
manager.
We
are
here
for
the
second
of
six
public
meetings
on
the
city
of
san
bruno's
process
to
convert
to
district
elections.
C
There
will
also
be
two
public
workshops.
This
process,
as
the
city
council
knows,
will
go
until
march
of
22
march.
26
of
2022
tonight's
presentation
will
be
provided
by
kristin
parks
from
nbc.
Also
available.
Tonight
is
city
attorney,
mark
zapparano,
myself,
assistant
city
manager,
jennifer
brazile,
as
well
as
assistant
to
the
city
manager,
jennifer
dianos,
all
of
which
make
up
the
internal
team
that
are
supporting
this
project.
A
C
Back
all
right:
in
addition,
we
have
jennifer
nitwig
from
tri
pepe
smith,
who
is
the
city's
public
engagement
consultant?
That
is
helping
this
effort.
I
will
now
turn
it
over
to
kristen
parks
from
nbc
to
provide
the
presentation
for
the
city
council.
Some
of
this
will
be
a
repeat.
Tonight's
presentation
will
begin
with
a
little
bit
of
the
information
that
you've
seen
before,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
that
anyone
that
is
tuning
in
for
the
first
time
really
received
the
full
complement
of
information
about
district.
C
E
E
And
I
am
just
going
to
start
by
giving
everyone
an
overview.
I
know
for
members
of
the
council
and
the
mayor.
This
will
be
a
bit
of
a
review,
as
this
is
our
second
district
thing
public
hearing.
E
We
are
well
along
the
way
in
this
process
and
it
is
going
to
fly
by,
but
if
you
are
just
tuning
in
for
the
first
time
and
just
starting
to
engage
with
it,
this
is
the
perfect
time
to
start
paying
attention
and
think
about
where
you
may
want
district
boundaries
for
your
neighborhood
or
your
community
so
to
members
of
the
public.
Thank
you
for
being
here
and
we
do
hope
to
hear
from
you
throughout
this
process.
E
So
just
as
a
reminder,
what
this
change
represents
for
the
city
of
san
bruno
is
the
change
from
an
at-large
election
system
in
which
every
voter
in
the
city
has
the
chance
to
elect
all
city
council
members.
E
So
I
also
want
to
point
out
to
members
of
the
public
that
one
of
the
things
that
we've
seen
over
the
past
several
years
across
the
state
of
california
is
a
lot
of
cities,
switching
to
buy
district
elections
because
they
either
were
received
a
letter
threatening
a
lawsuit
under
the
california
voting
rights
act
or
like
san
bruno.
They
decided
to
proactively
take
the
step
to
make
that
change
to
open,
avoid
what
could
be
potentially
very
costly
litigation
for
the
city.
So
san
bruno
has
proactively
made
that
change.
There
is
no
lawsuit.
E
E
So
this
is
just
a
visual
representation
for
those
who
may
be
more
of
visual
learners
right.
This
is
something
I
believe
that
the
city
manager
created
for
us
that
just
illustrates
what
it
will
look
like
after
the
transition.
E
F
F
And
second,
there
are
things
that
your
residents
just
know
best
about
their
communities,
and
so
it's
essential
that
those
of
us
involved
in
the
process
hear
from
them
about
the
community
and
then.
Lastly,
this
is
a
once
in
a
decade
opportunity,
since
the
census
data
is
released
only
once
every
10
years,
and
so
every
10
years
communities
get
together
and
talk
about
demography,
and
so
this
is
an
exciting
time
and
a
rare
time
as
your
community
to
be
working
through
this
process
and
then
on.
F
The
next
slide
here
are
some
of
the
goals
in
the
districting
process
and
through
the
districting
process
and
events
like
tonight's
hearing
we're
going
to
learn
from
the
experts,
particularly
miss
kristin
parks,
from
nbc
as
your
demographer,
and
this
is
a
complex
process
we
all
realize,
particularly
since
it
only
comes
up
once
every
10
years.
Usually
so
it's
an
opportunity
to
educate
and
explain
to
the
public
what
this
process
is
and
why
it's
so
important,
then,
once
you've
shared
information
on
how
the
process
works.
F
It's
important
for
the
experts
to
hear
from
the
community
community
members
will
be
the
stars
of
the
show
as
the
process
moves
forward
and
it's
important
for
the
experts
to
hear
from
community
community
members
because,
as
we
mentioned
earlier,
community
members
do
know
their
community's
best
and
effective
districting
relies
on
identifying
the
neighborhoods
and
communities
that
you
want
to
keep
together.
As
you
consider
drawing
district
lines,
and
I
think
kristin
will
touch
on
that
a
little
bit
as
we
move
forward
tonight
too.
F
And
then.
Last
but
not
least,
our
goal
is
that
community
members
are
empowered
to
give
effective
feedback.
So
by
absorbing
the
content
that
we'll
be
sharing
today
and
by
talking
with
our
friends
and
neighbors.
Those
are
all
great
ways
to
participate
and
to
provide
effective
feedback
to
inform
the
process
that
will
determine
district
lines
for
the
next
10
years
and
with
that
I'll
turn
it
back
over
to
kristin
to
touch
on
the
timeline.
E
Thank
you
jennifer.
So
one
of
the
things
that
has
affected
everyone
going
through
districting
or
redistricting
right
now
are
significant
delays.
Month-Long
delays
that
we
had
in
the
release
of
census
data
from
the
federal
government
that
data
was
released
on
august
12th
to
the
states.
However,
the
state
of
california
then
processed
that
data
to
make
some
reallocations
and,
for
instance,
counting
state
inmates
at
their
last
known
place
of
residence
rather
than
in
their
incarcerated
location.
E
So
that
was
supposed
to
happen
on
september
20th.
It
actually
happened
on
september
27th,
so
even
the
state
had
a
bit
of
a
delay
in
the
districting
process.
There
are
four
hearings
that
are
required
prior
to
adoption
of
the
map,
so
tonight
we're
at
our
second
initial
hearing,
and
just
so
members
of
the
public
are
aware
these
first
two
hearings
are
meant
to
be
time
where
the
council
is
listening
to
the
public.
E
We
are
actually
not
legally
permitted
to
be
considering
actual
draft
maps,
yet
we
will
be
holding
to
community
workshops
in
november
to
demo
the
public
mapping
tools,
some
of
which
are
already
available
on
this
website.
Districtingsanforno.Org.
E
What
happens,
then,
is
that,
after
the
public
has
ample
time
to
to
submit
all
of
their
submissions,
then
it
will
come
back
to
the
council
for
consideration,
and
so
the
the
second
two
hearings
that
will
take
place
in
january
and
february
are
hearings
where
the
council
will
consider
draft
maps
submitted
by
the
public
and
potentially
also
submitted
by
the
public,
will
have
a
chance
then
to
weigh
in
on
those
maps
before
the
final
map
is
adopted,
and
what
we
are
planning
right
now
is
for
there
to
be
a
fifth
hearing
on
march
8th
and
a
sixth
hearing
on
march
22nd.
E
That
gives
ample
time
for
this
map
to
be
adopted
and
all
of
the
data
of
where
voters
are
and
where
district
boundaries
are
can
then
be
shared
with
the
county
registrar
of
voters,
so
that
everything
is
in
place
for
the
november
2022
election.
So
this
will
be
an
ongoing
process.
This
is
why
we
say
this
is
the
perfect
time
to
be
jumping
in
and
starting
to
engage
with
it.
E
I
encourage
everyone
to
visit
if
they
haven't
already
districtingsandbruno.org
the
full
schedule,
along
with
links
to
all
of
the
materials
from
the
meetings
that
we've
previously
held
in
the
upcoming
meetings
as
soon
as
those
materials
are
available,
will
be
posted
on
the
schedule
page
of
districting
san
bruno.
E
So
the
other
thing
that
helps
empower
the
public
is
to
understand
the
legal
requirements
that
exist
for
districting,
and
so
these
requirements
help
us
understand
what
we
should
consider
when
we're
considering
where
district
lines
should
be
within
the
city.
So
always,
first
and
foremost,
we
have
federal
law
and
federal
law
says
that
each
district
should
have
relatively
equal
population,
meaning
that
each
city
council
member,
should
represent
about
the
same
number
of
residents.
E
Members
of
the
public
often
ask
what
are
those
protected
classes
of
voters
and
those
are
african-american
voters,
asian-american,
voters,
hispanic
voters
and
native
american
voters.
So
we
will
be
looking
at
race
and
ethnicity
in
order
to
ensure
that
compliance,
however,
we'll
also
be
looking
at
other
demographic
factors
to
help
define
and
identify
the
communities
and
neighborhoods
that
will
be
grouped
together
within
each
city.
Council
district
federal
law
says
that
race
or
ethnicity
should
never
be
the
sole
factor
or
the
predominant
factor
in
drawing
a
district.
E
E
E
E
The
second
criteria
is
the
one
we're
going
to
focus
on
tonight,
which
is
when
we're
drawing
district
boundaries.
The
state
of
california
says
we
should
minimize
the
division
of
neighborhoods
and
communities
of
interest.
So,
as
I
mentioned
each
district,
we
can
think
of
each
district
as
being
a
collection
of
neighborhoods
and
communities.
E
What
we
don't
want
to
do
is
to
draw
those
district
boundaries
right
through
the
middle
of
neighborhoods
or
communities,
and
divide
them
up
that
reduces
their
ability
to
elect
representatives
to
the
council
and
reduces
their
ability
to
interact
with
council
members
and
even
know
who
may
represent
them.
E
E
E
However,
the
list
of
california
criteria
is
rank
order,
meaning
that
number
one
two
three
and
three
on
this
list
are
more
important
than
number
four
right,
so
we're
actually
going
in
order
of
importance
here.
So
sometimes
some
of
my
clients
will
have
a
city
council
district
that
may
have
a
strange
shape,
it's
contiguous,
but
it
may
be
strange,
and
that
is
because
it
is
required
to
comply
with
the
federal
voting
rights
act
right.
So
all
of
these
criteria,
we
are
under
california
law,
we're
doing
to
the
extent
practicable.
E
Finally,
I
do
have
a
third
column
here,
because
every
city
is
unique
and
every
city
may
have
other
goals
for
districts
that
they
want
to
bring
to
the
table.
Some
cities
want
every
district
to
touch
their
downtown
business
area
so
that
there
is
this
shared
sense
of
unity
around
their
downtown
right.
So
the
point
I
want
to
make
sure
is
that
it's
absolutely
legally
permissible
to
discuss
other
goals
for
our
districts
in
san
bruno.
E
E
So
if
we
have
any
legal
questions,
we
will
be
asking
those
two
to
the
attorney,
but
I
do
think
it's
empowering
for
members
of
the
public
to
understand
the
legal
framework,
because
it
is
something
that
we
will
be
coming
back
to
and
when
we
look
at
draft
maps,
we're
going
to
talk
about
whether
or
not
those
maps
meet
these
criteria.
E
So
the
good
news,
of
course,
is
despite
the
months
and
months
of
waiting
for
census
data
we
now
have
it
and
so
for
the
city
of
san
bruno
in
the
2020
census,
43
908
people
were
counted
and
what
you
see
here
are
city-wide.
Some
of
the
demographic
features
that
the
census
bureau
has
has
provided
what
we're
really
concerned
with
here
is
figuring
out
how
many
people
should
each
of
the
districts
that
we
create
for
san
bruno
have
so
the
blue
box.
Here
that
says,
ideal
district
size.
E
What
that
is,
is
well
we're
going
to
take
the
total
population
of
the
city
and
then
we're
going
to
think
about
the
number
of
districts
we're
going
to
create,
which
there
are
four
districts
that
we're
going
to
create.
There
are
four
council
members
currently
on
council,
and
so,
if
you
take
43
908
and
you
divide
it
by
four
you're
going
to
get
this
ideal
number,
which
is
10
977
people,
each
district
doesn't
have
to
be
exactly
that
ideal
size.
E
What
we're
looking
for
is
the
total
deviation
of
less
than
10,
so
we're
looking
for
each
of
our
districts
to
try
for
that
ideal
and
get
get
as
close
as
possible,
while
also
making
sure
that
we're
addressing
all
of
the
legal
criteria
that
I
just
went
over.
E
So
I
am
going
to
go
very
quickly
through
these
slides,
as
I
have
presented
them
previously,
but
these
slides
show
you
mapped
out
for
the
city
of
san
bruno,
where
different
populations
are
so
each
of
these
slides
will
show
you
a
heat
map
where
we're
going
from
purple
being
0
to
10
of
those
census
blocks,
which
is
what
the
level
at
which
we're
displaying
this
data.
So
zero
to
ten
percent
for
the
purple
are
latino
citizens
of
voting
age.
E
Evap
stands
for
citizen
voting
age
population,
so
these
are
our
citizens
over
the
age
of
18..
These
are
our
eligible
voters
who
identify
as
latino,
of
course,
and
the
heat
map
goes
from
the
purple
cold
to
the
red,
hot,
and
so
those
red
blocks
are
where
you
see
75
to
100
of
the
of
the
people
on
those
blocks
are
latinos
of
citizen
voting
age.
E
Why
do
we
look
at
things
like
this?
Well,
one
for
compliance
with
the
voting
rights
act
and
two,
so
the
members
of
the
public
can
start
to
think
about
their
own
communities
of
interest
and
start
to
identify
on
a
map
where
people
that
they
share
common
interests
with
are
in
the
city.
So,
as
you
can
see
on
this
slide
for
african
americans,
there's
not
a
lot
of
variants
from
block
to
block.
E
However,
I
want
to
caution
and
say
that
this
map
is
not
showing
that
there
are
no
african
americans
in
the
city
of
san
bruno.
It's
just
showing
that
there
are
in
most
of
the
city
census
blocks.
There
are
10
or
fewer
african-american
citizens
of
voting
age.
Okay,
you
can
see
that
the
asian-american
citizens
of
voting
age
are
dispersed
throughout
the
city
and
there
there
are
certain
groupings
in
certain
areas
and
keeping
in
mind
too.
E
One
of
the
things
to
think
about
when
we're
looking
at
these
maps
is
that
we
are
ultimately
going
to
be
drawing
four
council
districts.
So
it's
always
helpful.
I
I
of
course
I
love
looking
at
maths.
We
can.
I
you
can
look
at
this
data
on
the
website
on
an
interactive
review
map.
So
that's
part
of
why
I'm
going
to
go
through
it
very
quickly
is
because
this
is
available
to
the
public
to
look
at
on
your
own
time.
E
Most
folks
are
familiar
with
what
a
neighborhood
is.
Our
state
law
was
written
to
say,
neighborhoods
and
communities
of
interest
and
then
defines
communities
of
interest
as
a
population
that
shares
common
interests
and
should
be
included
within
a
single
district
for
purposes
of
its
effective
and
fair
representation.
E
This
is
a
very
broad
definition
of
a
community
of
interests
and
it
really
creates
an
opportunity
for
residents
of
san
bruno,
who
may
or
may
not
think
of
themselves
as
being
a
traditional
neighborhood,
but
maybe
a
group
of
people
with
common
interests
or
common
concerns
or
common
issues
that
they
may
interact
with
the
city
on
and
if
they
are
geographically
concentrated
in
a
certain
area
and
wish
to
be
included
within
a
single
city
council
district.
So
they
have
one
council
member
representing
them.
E
That
is
that's
sort
of
the
basic
definition
of
communities
of
interest,
but
there's
really
no
wrong
way
to
define
your
community,
and
we
do
want
to
hear
from
you
as
to
your
neighborhoods
and
your
communities
of
interest.
E
So
again,
just
two
things
to
think
about.
If
you
are
going
to
make
public
comment
either
tonight
during
the
public
hearing
or
in
the
future,
think
about
what
brings
people
together
in
your
community
if
there's
places
where
parks
that
that
people
go
to,
if
there's
schools,
if
there's
places
of
worship,
shopping,
centers,
that
people
frequent
and
then,
where
is
the
boundaries
of
this
community,
so
that
we
can
know
when
we
look
at
a
map
how
to
avoid
dividing
up
that
community?
E
Not
all
communities
are
going
to
care
about
whether
or
not
they
are
in
a
single
city,
council
district.
We
particularly
want
to
hear
about
your
community
if
it
does
want
to
be
within
a
single
council
district.
However,
we'll
we'll
be
happy
to
listen
to
whatever
testimony
you
bring
other
things
to
think
about.
Are
transit
corridors,
school
attendance
zones,
zoning
areas,
anything
that
resonates
with
you
and
your
neighbors
are.
It
is
helpful
information,
especially
since
we
are
drawing
these
district
boundaries
for
the
first
time.
E
They
really
are
going
to
be
a
part
of
history
here,
because
the
boundaries
that
are
adopted
through
this
process,
as
my
colleague
jennifer
mentioned,
will
be
in
place
for
the
next
decade.
So
there
is,
this
is
a
very
significant
process
for
the
city.
E
So,
yes,
we
are
in
october
2021.
We
are
expecting
our
online
mapping
tool
to
be
made
live
this
week.
However,
district
r,
the
software
vendor,
is
having
some
significant
delays,
so
that
is
not
currently
available.
The
thing
you
see
a
screenshot
of
here,
however,
we
want
the
public
to
be
able
to
sit
down
and
start
drawing
maps
right
now
if
they
want.
E
So
what
we
have
are
printable
pdf
maps
up
on
the
website
and
just
as
a
reminder
that
website
is
districtingsanbruno.org
and
that's
where
you'll
find
the
paper
maps
right
that
you
and
you
don't
have
to
print
them
and
draw
them
on
paper.
You
can
you
know
edit
the
pdf
on
your
computer
and
you
can
draw
your
neighborhood
your
community
of
interest,
what
your
ideal
council
district
would
look
like,
or
you
can
draw
a
map
of
that-
takes
the
city
of
san
bruno
and
you
and
draws
all
four
districts
onto
it.
E
Whatever
you
submit
will
be
entered
into
the
public
record
and
will
be
considered
by
the
council
as
part
of
this
process,
so
for
full
transparency
purposes.
All
maps
drawn
and
submitted
by
the
public
will
be
posted
online
and
ndc
will
process
those
maps
and
produce
demographic
reports
for
each
of
the
maps
submitted
by
the
public,
as
well
as
a
a
quick
determination
as
to
whether
or
not
the
map
meets
those
legal
criteria
that
I
talked
about.
E
So
we,
while
we
encourage
using
these
mapping
tools
and
we
provide
them
in
order
to
empower
the
public
at
the
end
of
the
day.
You
know
you
can
draw
a
map
on
a
napkin
or
a
scrap
piece
of
paper
and
as
long
as
you're
labeling
it
with
landmarks
or
streets,
we
can
take
it
and
enter
that
into
the
public
record.
F
All
right,
and
as
kristen
mentioned,
you
know,
the
public
mapping
tools
are
available
and
so
we're
looking
for
that
public
engagement.
The
paper
with
the
paper
maps
for
sure
at
this
point,
and
so
with
that
there's
a
lot
of
outreach
that
I
know
that
the
city
of
san
bruno
is
committed
to
to
make
sure
that
everyone
does
have
the
opportunity
to
learn
about
this
process
and
make
their
voice
heard.
F
So
I
won't
do
as
detailed
of
a
rundown
as
I
shared
during
the
september
28th
first
hearing,
where
we
had
a
whole
presentation
devoted
to
outreach,
but
I'll
just
give
you
a
high
level
summary
to
kind
of
give
you
a
recap
of
some
of
those
items.
So
as
we've
kind
of
touched
on
throughout
the
presentation
tonight,
san
bruno
does
have
a
dedicated
website
districtingsanbruno.org,
which
we'll
show
on
the
next
slide.
F
But
on
that
website,
if
you're
able
to
visit
you'll
see
the
opportunity
to
visit
the
draw
on
that
page
with
many
of
the
tools
we
discussed
tonight,
there
is
a
contact
tab
where
you
can
send
any
feedback
directly
through
the
site
and
there's
a
subscribe
tab
where
you
can
subscribe
for
ongoing
news
and
updates
about
the
process.
So
that's
a
great
resource
and
it
will
be
continually
updated
as
a
process.
F
We
have
a
segment
on
districting
scheduled
to
air
on
citynet,
what's
happening
around
town
coming
up
in
october
or
ongoing
in
october,
and
we
have
some
print
pliers
that
are
currently
in
work
and
we'll
get
those
printed
and
distributed
to
various
community
groups
and
locations
across
the
city.
And
then
we
do
have
several
community
workshops
coming
up.
F
So
then,
on
our
last
slide
or
second
to
last
slide.
I
should
say
this
is
the
second
to
last
slide
so
before
we
open
it
up
for
the
hearing
portion
and
questions
and
answers.
These
are
the
questions
that
we
encourage
community
members
to
consider
to
provide
feedback
and
to
be
prepared
to
participate
in
the
process
moving
forward.
F
F
So
here's
that
screenshot
of
the
website,
districtingsambunaud.org
you
can
sign
up
for
updates
via
that
subscribe
tab,
as
I
mentioned,
share
your
thoughts
directly
via
the
contact,
tab
and
review
meeting
materials
on
the
calendar
tab
and
explore
all
the
other
tabs
on
the
website
as
well,
and
you
can
email
us
time
by
emailing,
districting,
sanbruno.ca.gov
and
you're
welcome
to
join
the
first
community
workshop
coming
up
on
november
1st
at
7
pm,
and
we
really
hope
to
see
you
there
so
with
that
I'll
open
it
up
for
any
questions
or
comments.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
once
again
for
the
presentation
and
the
information
that
you
provided
for
us.
As
we
said,
this
is
a
public
hearing.
So
what
I
would
like
to
do
is
open
the
public
hearing
to
any
members
of
the
public
that
wish
to
speak
in
case
they
have
places
they
and
things
they
need
to
attend
to.
If
there's
any
members
of
the
public
that
would
like
to
ask
questions
or
have
comments
now
would
be
the
time
in
which
to
please
raise
your
hand.
A
C
C
A
A
There
we
go
viceroy
medina.
D
Yes,
thank
you
very
much,
mr
mayor,
and
thank
you
jennifer
and
christian
for
your
presentation
for
the
first
community
workshop.
That's
in
person.
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that.
D
It's
virtual,
okay,
all
right
and
possibly
the
second
is
depending
on
what
the
county
says,
but
it's
that
intended
currently
to
be
virtual.
F
D
Life
that
we're
dealing
with
covid-
so
that's,
that's
totally
unexpectable.
I
really
don't
have
too
many
questions.
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
for
that.
It's
an
interesting
process
and
just
hoping
that
more
people
are
able
to
participate.
This
was
a
little
difficult
today
being
at
five
o'clock.
I
think,
and
people
are
just
kind
of
scrambling
around,
but
looking
forward
to
that
outreach
to
make
sure
that
we
get
as
many
people
engaged
as
possible.
This
is
so
huge
in
determining
san
bernardino's,
his
future
right.
D
B
Yeah,
it's
I
want
to
say.
I
appreciate
the
enthusiasm
that
you
bring
to
your
presentation.
It's
kind
of
it
can
be
a
dry
subject,
but
very
impactful.
I
just
wanted
to
ask
a
couple
of
questions.
The
first
question
is
just
around
in
your
experience
in
the
districting.
What
have
you
seen
as
the
the
biggest
obstacle
that
cities
face
in
this
process?.
E
Yeah,
that's
an
interesting
question.
I
think
that
oftentimes,
it
can
be
a
very
difficult
process
when
cities
are
dealing
with
a
lawsuit
that
forces
them,
because
that
does
come
with
a
90-day
clock
right.
So
in
that
regard,
san
bruno
is
lucky
that
we
do
have
a
little
bit
more
time
that
this
has
been
very
intentional
and
proactive
as
a
process.
E
I
would
also
say
that
you
know
one
of
my
other
clients,
for
instance,
is
the
town
of
woodside,
who
is
switching
to
districts,
and
there
are
other
clients
in
similar
situations
that
are
so
small
that
when
you
take,
you
know
a
community,
that's
so
tiny,
like
5,
000
people
and
you're
trying
to
break
it
up.
That
can
be
very
difficult.
San
bruno,
I
think,
to
your
benefit.
You
do
have
some
freeways
and
other
sort
of
natural
dividing
lines.
Things
that
you
can
think
about.
You
do
have
some
distinct
neighborhoods.
E
So
that's
really
going
to
be
not
the
challenge,
but
I
think
really,
the
focus
of
of
this
process
will
be
identifying.
You
know
where
are
those
natural
places
for
districts
and
jennifer?
Please
feel
free
to
add
from
your
experience
as
well.
B
Do
you
find
that
districts
and
what
you've
read
in
your
experience
give
a
give
way
to
additional,
or
I
should
say
enough,
candidates
per
district.
E
Yes
and
again,
that's
usually
a
concern
that
the
smaller
jurisdictions
have
they.
They
will
always
ask
if
the
jurisdiction
of
a
few
thousand
people.
What
if
we
don't
have
anyone
running?
Of
course,
the
answer,
if
you
don't
have
anyone
running
for
that
feat,
is
that
then
the
council
will
appoint
someone
to
fill
that
seat
right.
I
don't
anticipate
that
happening
in
san
bruno,
but
that
is
you
know
that
there
there
is
a
way
to
fill
it,
we're
not
going
to
end
up
with
empty
empty
seats.
Again.
E
City
council
elections
are
staggered
as
well,
so
we're
never
dealing
with
our
entire
council
being
up
for
election
in
the
same
year.
So
that
also
helps
in
terms
of
making
sure
that
there's
an
adequate
candidate
pool.
B
Yeah,
I
know
some
of
the
information
I've
read
says
it
also
makes
it
more
affordable
and
more
reasonable
for
candidates
to
run,
and
I'm
curious
to
know
the
the
other
side
of
it
is.
Does
it
also
allow
for
additional
candidates
to
be
introduced
when
you
have
such
a
small
district?
What's
the
likelihood
of
a
long-term
income.
E
Yeah,
that's
that's
an
interesting,
interesting
question.
I'm
not
sure
I
know
what
the
academic
literature
says
on
the
long-term
question
there,
but
certainly
we
do
know-
and
we
can
sort
of
see
this
from
when
the
california
legislature
switched
to
term
limits.
Whenever
there's
an
open
seat,
we
do
actually
usually
see
candidates
running
more
women,
more
minorities,
more
people
that
we
might
not
otherwise
see
running
for
office
and
the
point
that
the
the
council
member
makes
is
absolutely
true.
E
When
you
do
switch
to
districts,
the
cost
of
campaigning
is
usually
lower
because,
if
you're
sending
out
campaign
mailers
or
something
like
that,
you
do
have
a
quarter
of
what
you
might
normally
bend
on
so
yeah.
E
I
mean-
and
it's
important
to
just
be
aware-
that
that
there
are
pros
and
cons
to
to
all
of
these
things,
but
that
this
decision
was
made
and
we
are
moving
forward
with
it,
and
I
know
that
the
city
has
you
know
many
other
questions
about
how
they're
they
may
want
to
make
changes
to
to
their
government
going
forward,
and
you
know
taking
all
of
this
step
by
step.
I
think
it
is
very
important
and
you
have
an
excellent
staff
and
team
working
with
you
to
help
you
untangle
all
of
these
intricacies.
B
And
I
think
just
because
I
think
part
of
having
the
discussion
having
a
public
hearing
right
is
to
learn
about
these
and
the
anticipated
and
unanticipated
consequences
of
the
change
and
so
of
the
cities
that
you
work
with.
E
There's
that
totally
varies
yeah
and
ndc
is
currently
working
in
2021
with
over
150
cities,
council
cities,
counties
and
special
districts
across
california,
and
so
we
see
every
every
variation
right
so
again,
that
is,
that
is
a
totally
separate
issue.
B
But
connected,
I
would
say
separate
but
connected.
The
other
question
is
when
you
talk
about
the
four
districts.
So
so
this
item
is
not
going
to
the
voters
and
we're
having
this
conversation
is
that
four
districts
something
that
at
this
point
we
can
talk
more
about
those
options
or
are
we
at
four
districts
and
the
council
is
that
that's
set
there's
not
going
to
be
a
fifth
district,
a
seventh
district
and
we're
at
four
districts
and
how
you
know.
How
is
that
decision
cemented.
E
Yeah,
so
what
that
decision
is
based
on
is
that
proposition
f
that
establishes
a
mayor
directly
elected
mayor
and
four
council
members
right,
so
that
has
been
in
place
since
the
1970s
for
san
bruno.
There
is
a
potential
situation
in
which
additional
council
seats
could
be
considered,
but
that
is
something
that
requires
some
historical
research
into
how
proposition
f
got
on
the
ballot
and
whether
it
was
we're
getting
into
legal
weeds
here
so
for
anyone
in
the
public
who's
like
what
is
going
on
this
is.
E
This
is
very
much
in
the
weeds
of
this,
but
I
do
want
to
give
the
complete
answer
to
the
best
of
my
knowledge
and
certainly
mark
can
chime
in
if
necessary.
But
my
understanding
is,
if,
under
the
california
voting
rights
act,
there
is
a
compelling
reason
to
have
more
than
four
seats.
Whether
or
not
that's
even
possible,
as
part
of
this
process
depends
on
whether
proposition
f
was
referred
to
voters
by
the
council
or
brought
by
a
petition
of
residents.
So
I
don't
know
the
answer
to
that.
E
We
can
certainly
follow
up,
and
let
you
know
more
about
that,
but
my
expectation
as
your
consultant
is
that
four
districts
is
something
that
is
reasonable
for
the
city
of
san
bruno
and
that
we
should
not
expect
to
have
any
compelling
reason
to
have
more
than
four.
At
this
time.
B
E
Yeah,
I
understand
that
that
conversation
is
happening
parallel
at.
However,
I
think,
for
the
purposes
of
district
thing,
that
if
you
did
make
that
change,
you
would
need
to
if
we
adopt
four
council
districts
through
this
process
and
then
the
changes
made,
you
would
have
to
redraw
the
boundaries
right
to
to
incorporate
another
district
into
the
map.
Right,
that
is
costly
in
terms
of
of
you
know,
making
a
change
after
you've
already
invested
so
much
into
it.
E
However,
it's
understandable
that
that
may
be
what's
best
for
the
city,
even
though
it's
sort
of
being
talked
about
concurrently
to
my
understanding.
That
is
something
that
would
happen
that
would
not
go
into
effect
until
after
this
process
is
completed.
So
I
don't
believe
that
we
can
take
into
account
the
potent
does
that
make
sense,
the
potential
that
that
change
might
be
made
soon
after
the
map
is
adopted.
B
Yeah,
because,
though,
I
guess
the
way
that
it
would
work
now
being
the
only
city
in
the
peninsula
with
an
directly
elected
mayor
would
be
that
one
district
would
actually
then
receive
40
percent
of
any
any
vote
at
any
council
meeting
right
because
they'd
be
represented
by
the
mayor
who
lives
in
that
particular
district
along
with
the
council
member
elected
in
that
district.
B
Okay,
so
I
mean
is:
is
it
a
possibility
to
because
we're
paying
for
the
process
now
to
do?
Also-
and
this
is
a
question
I
think
more
for
the
city
manager
but
is-
is
that
we
have
had
this
conversation,
we've
been
told
that
we
are
going
to
align
it
with
a
districting
conversation
and
so
we're
having
the
district
in
conversation
now,
and
I'm
wondering
how
we
can
save
money
at
a
later
time
by
having
a
potentially
alternative
design.
C
Thank
you,
councilwoman,
woman
nathan.
Let
me
just
restate
that
to
make
sure
for
for
both
myself
that
I
understand
and
for
the
public,
so
I
think
you're
saying
two
things
one
is.
We
are
currently
undergoing
a
districting
process
to
draw
four
council
districts
through
this
process.
C
C
I
think
we
need
to
investigate
that
more
versus
providing
on
the
spot
response
to
that,
certainly
looking
into
it
kristin
park
said
measure
f
from
1977
and
how
that
was
placed
on
the
ballot
and
what
that
means.
With
respect
to
compliance
of
the
california
voting
rights
act,
we
can
look
into
that
and
provide
the
council
with
a
clear
understanding
of
as
we're
going
through
this
process.
C
Should
the
city
council
desire
to
look
or
to
adopt
five
districts
can
that
be
done
through
this
process
and
and
or
because
of
how
measure
f
was
adopted?
It
has
to
go
back
to
the
voters.
I
think,
if
that's
a
question,
we
can
do
the
work
and
provide
a
a
clear
answer
to
the
council
on
that
question.
With
respect
to
the
other
question,
which
is
we're
drawing
formats,
would
it
save
time
and
money
to
draw
five
maps
through
this
process
potentially?
C
But
I
think
that's
also
related
to
the
to
the
to
the
first
question,
because
it
would
only
be
save
resources
if
we
were
converting
to
five
districts
now,
because
if
you
convert
to
five
districts
later
be
it
november
24,
then
you
have
to
draw
your
maps
based
on
the
data
that's
available
at
that
point,
and
so
I
don't
know
that
converting
this
process
from
a
four
district
process
to
a
five
district
process
to
save
on
resources
would
would
be
advantageous
if
that
change
happened
later
and
so
for
both
of
those
questions,
though,
I
think,
if
that's
a
question
that
the
council
wants
us
to
delve
deeper
into
we.
C
We
can't
do
that
to
provide
clarity
on
that.
It's
just
important
to
note
that
we
launched
this
process
looking
at
four
districts,
but
if
there's
a,
if
there's
a
desire
to
delve
further
into,
is
there
a
possibility
through
this
process,
to
look
at
five
districts?
We
could
certainly
do
that
work
and
bring
that
information
back
to
the
city
council.
B
B
We
had
also
talked
about
because,
if
I
remember
the
conversation
correctly
around
the
mayoral
issue,
we
all
agreed
that
nobody
wanted
to
spend
much
needed
city
money
on
a
special
election
and
that
if
this
item
would
go
to
the
voters
which
it
needed
to
it
would
have
to
go
next
year
and
that
would
align
with
the
districting
and
so
not
putting
the
cart
before
the
horse,
but
really
wanting
to
plan
this
out,
because
what
I
don't
want
is
I
don't
want
to
get
to
next
year
and
now
we're
not
going
to
move
forward
on
any
potential
changes
on
the
districting,
because
now
we're
going
to
be
spending
another
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
a
new
for
a
new
district
map.
B
So
I
think
the
conversation
had
had
always
been
that
we
were
taking
these
into
consideration
as
we
moved
along,
and
I
don't
want
to
cost
the
city
more
money
on.
You
know
for
poor
planning
on
our
part
up
and
up
in
front
at
the
front
end
of
this
project.
E
I
think
that
makes
perfect
sense.
I
would
just
put
put
a
pause
on
it
until
we
know
what
is
legally
possible.
I
certainly
wouldn't
want
to
engage
your
residents
in
your
community
on
you
know.
Concurrently,
thinking
about
you
know,
here's
some
maps
before
here's
the
maps
with
five
unless
we're
sure
that
there
is
a
way
forward
with
the
five
prior
to
no
the
the
november
2022
election.
So
we
can
circle
back
on
that
as
soon
as
possible.
C
Yeah
and
through
the
mayor
justin
in
response
to
council
members,
mason's
question
on
timing,
the
city
decided
in
2020
to
convert
to
district
elections
in
november
22,
and
so
now
we're
beginning
that
work.
C
The
conversation
that
occurred
earlier
in
this
year
was:
can
the
city
hold
a
special
election
time
with
the
gubernatorial
recall,
to
put
the
question
of
a
directly
elected
mayor
before
the
voters,
we
were
preempted
from
doing
that
due
to
how
the
recall
process
unfolded
and
our
ability
to
put
something
on
the
ballot,
we
did
receive
a
quote
from
the
county
that
putting
a
special
holding
a
special
election
just
for
the
city
of
san
bruno
would
cost
approximately
five
hundred
thousand
dollars,
and
the
decision
at
that
time
was
to
not
move
forward
due
to
the
cost,
and
so
we
then
proceeded
with
the
district
elections
process
under
the
current
format,
as
per
measure
f,
directly
elected
mayor
for
council
districts,
the
question.
C
Is
is
there
a
way
through
this
process,
to
look
at
five
districts,
and
should
there
be
a
map
for
five
districts
created?
Is
there
a
way
to
do
that
conversion
prior
to
the
november
2022
election,
so
that
it
is
five
districts,
not
four
that
that
are
created?
And
that's
the
question
that
council
wants
to
investigate
that
issue?
We
will
certainly
investigate
it
and
bring
back
information
to
the
city
council.
B
The
first
part
is
new,
but
the
second
part
I
think
it
is
new,
given
that
it
sounds
like
there's
a
cost
associated
to
looking
into
this
at
a
later
time,
and
I
think
they
really
should
run
parallel
tracks
so
that
that
would
be
my
thoughts
on
that
and
then
just
another
question
and
then
I'll
turn
it
over
to
my
colleagues,
but
it's
just
on
the
on
the
jail,
the
san
bruno
jail,
so
the
san
bruno
jail
has
quite
a
has.
B
Has
a
population
in
there
as
well,
and
I
am
curious
to
know
how
the
jail
fits
into
the
this
districting.
You
know
I
didn't.
Even
I
don't
think
some.
I
might
I'm
sorry
simon,
jumping
on
the
spot,
but
are
they
included
in
the
census
as
residents
of
san
bruno?
And
how
are
they
a
part
of
this
entire
district
process?.
E
Yeah,
no,
it's
actually
a
great
question
when
we're
talking
about
california's
adjustment.
We
are
talking
about
california,
adjusting
our
state
prison
inmates
and
those
incarcerated
in
federal
prisons.
Folks
who
are
in
jail
in
county
jail
are
usually
they're.
Of
course.
You
know
realignment
but
usually
they're
there
for
less
than
a
year,
and
they
are
not
counted
there
at
the
jail.
They
are
counted
at
their
place
of
residence.
E
B
And
can
we
just
confirm
that
with
the
city,
maybe
city
attorney.
D
So
I
came
into
this
meeting
with
similar
questions
about
how
how
this
process
works,
along
with
the
the
potential
for
rotating
there.
I
so
I
won't
cover
all
that
ground
again
because
it
was
just
covered,
but
I
do
have
one
one
question
regarding:
if
that
question
were
to
be
addressed
after
the
22
election,
it
was
mentioned
that
we
would
have
to
go
back
and
use
fresh
data.
I
thought
the
census
was
done
every
10
years.
D
What
fresh
data
would
be
available,
or
are
we
talking
about
all
that
other
stuff,
like
potentially
residents
coming
saying
that
there's
a
particular
community
that
they
want
to
keep
together
or
whatever?
Is
it
that
that
non-population
based
data
that
would
force
a.
D
E
Two
things
so
the
census
data
you
would
be
required
to
use
if
you're
doing
this
at
any
point
again
in
the
next
decade
the
total
population
numbers
you're,
going
to
use
for
population
balance
will
be
the
2020
census.
However,
the
u.s
census
bureau
does
an
annual
survey
called
the
american
community
survey,
and
that
is
where
we
they,
what
they
do
with
that
is
they
combine
it
into
like
a
five-year
rolling
data
set.
E
So
if
you
did
this
two
years
from
now,
there
would
be
some
perhaps
minor
changes
to
the
demographic
data
in
the
sense
of
where
your
citizen
voting
age,
population,
race,
ethnicity,
renters,
homeowners,
all
of
that
extra
stuff
that
comes
from
the
american
community
survey
that
is
updated
on
an
annual
basis.
However,
for
the
purposes
of
drawing
the
district
boundaries
to
be
equal
in
population
size,
that
number
will
not
change
until
after
2030.
D
I
would
concur
with
councilmember
mason
that
trying
to
avoid
going
through
this
whole
process
twice,
not
just
not
just
for
the
expense,
but
for
the
effort
for
the
for
the
community
to
redraw
everything
and
doing
everything
you
know
doing
the
entire
process
again
a
year
from
now
or
further
is
not
ideal,
and
if
there's
a
way
that
we
can
figure
out
how
to
get
all
that
data
now
and
figure
a
path
forward
given
given
what
the
the
previous
direction
has
been,
I
would
be
in
favor.
D
Thank
you
for
that.
I
apologize
just
for
the
record.
I
I
I
do
agree
with
council
cast
woman,
mason
and
councilman
hamilton
if
there
was
a
way
that
we
could
proceed
and
not
have
those
expenditures
in
the
future,
I'm
in
favor
of
that.
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
clear.
Thank
you.
A
Okay,
thank
you
any
other
miss
parks.
Oh
I'm
sorry,
council,
member,
salazar,.
C
All
right
I
was,
I
was
playing
around
with
the
map.
I
got
a
little
distracted
there,
but
I
I
just
had
a
quick
question
about
the
maps
themselves
and
it's
I
see
that
they
were
drawn
with
what
looks
to
be
some
census
tracts
some
census
tract
borders
and
they
got
the
numbers
in
there
and
it
seems
like
the
city
pretty
well
divides.
I
mean
if
you
were
just
sort
of
a
quarter
it
out.
It
would
kind
of
give
us
our
our
10
000.
C
So
it
seems
like
there's
a
pretty
even
distribution
of
voters
across
the
city
and
looking
at
the
map.
So
if
we
were
to
try
to
do
something
more
creative
with
this,
can
we
assume
that
there
is
a
pretty
uniform
distribution
of
voters
across
all
of
the
blocks
within
those
census
tracts?
Would
that
be
a
fair
or
something?
Now.
E
No,
so
what
you're
looking
at
so
the
census
counts
all
the
way
down
to
the
block
level
and
if
you're,
looking
at
those
paper
maps,
you
know
we
can't
print
on
a
letter,
size
piece
of
paper,
every
single
census
block
right,
but
there
is
large
variance,
as
you
can
imagine,
right,
other
parts
of
the
city
with
apartment
buildings
and
parts
of
the
city
with
single-family
homes
and
parts
of
the
city
with
nobody
at
all,
so
that
is
varied
block
by
block
what
you're
looking
at
are
collections
of
city
of
blocks
right
for
the
most
part.
E
E
So
each
of
these
population
units
that
ndc
has
drawn
we
draw
them
in
a
way
that
tries
to
make
it
easier
for
the
public
to
get
an.
You
know,
an
estimate,
but
certainly
the
public.
Here
they
don't
have
to
draw
based
on
the
these
population
unit
lines.
They
do
follow
census
blocks,
but
keep
in
mind
that
each
of
these
units
here
is
a
collection
of
census
blocks
and
the
number
of
voters.
E
Oh
well,
the
population
right
we're
not
looking
here
at
the
number
of
voters,
but
the
population
does
vary
from
block
to
block
in
some
areas.
Quite
significantly,
once
the
online
tool
is
launched,
you'll
be
able
to
drill
all
the
way
down
to
the
block
level.
Again,
I'm
crossing
my
fingers
of
facts
this
week,
we'll
see
but
yeah
you'll
be
able
to
drill
all
the
way
down
to
to
that
block
level
so
that
you
can.
E
E
Exactly
it
automatically
calculates
it
for
you,
the
tool
that
you're
getting
district
art
is
my
favorite
tool.
It's
very
very
easy.
No
account
is
required,
no
login.
E
You
literally
will
point
and
click
to
to
select,
and
you
can
point
and
click
to
deselect,
and
it
will
automatically
give
you
information.
So
I
generally
tell
folks
you
know
you
can
use
google
google
maps.
You
can
probably
use
this
tool
and
you
know
keeping
in
mind
that,
for
instance,
what
you
see
here
at
the
cemetery
with
with
I
don't
know
why
there's
25
residents
in
it.
I
was
trying
to
figure
that
out
by
looking
at
the
satellite
view,
and
I'm
gonna
have
to
dig
back
in
that's
one
entire
census
block.
C
Right
yeah
notice,
the
high
school
too,
has
456,
but
it
also
includes
a
little
piece
of
the
neighborhood,
that's
adjacent
to
it.
So
it's
a
kind
of
an
interesting
geography
there.
Okay,
thank
you,
and
so
my
other
question
too
was
looking
at
the
at
the
population
maps,
the
ones
that
were
focused
on
the
ethnic
distributions,
and
it
really
doesn't
look
like
just
based
on
those
maps.
I
would
say
that
there
is
no
one
geographical
area
that
we
could
identify.
C
That
is
somehow
disadvantaged
in
in
the
in
terms
of
setting
up
a
voting
district,
and
even
if
you
look
at
the
concentration
of
hispanics
or
spanish-speaking
people,
they
might
be
in
an
area,
but
there's
such
a
small
portion
of
that
area
that
their
vote
still
would
possibly
be
diluted
within
a
district
unless
you
get
very
granular.
E
Yeah
well,
there's
always
you
know
we
can't
prevent
people
from
trying
to
to
bring
lawsuits.
However,
what
we
are
experts
in
doing
is
creating
maps
that
are
defensible
in
court
right
and
ndc
of
for
the
the
three
or
four
decades
we've
been
doing.
We've
never
had
a
court
strike
down
any
any
of
the
maps
that
that
we
have
have
drawn
for
our
our
clients.
So
that's
a
good
thing
and
we
are
very
mindful
of
what
of
how
you
know
what
the
requirements
are
in
terms
of
you
know.
E
If
there
is
a
possibility
to
draw
a
majority
minority
district,
making
sure
that
that
is
something
that's
considered,
but
also
if
there
is
a
concentration
of,
for
instance,
spanish-speaking
folks
in
one
area
that
we're
not
splitting
them
up,
and
you
know
having
them
be
in
three
different
districts
so
that
they
really
can't
organize
as
a
community
together
and
that's
really
part
of
the
heart
of
the
discussion
of
community
of
interests
is
a
community
may
want
to
organize.
B
B
Those
were
great
questions
from
councilmember
salazar.
I
I
think
just
along
those
those
questions
have
you
seen
in
the
work
you've
already
done
in
other
cities,
an
actual
change
in
representation
after
districting.
E
Yes,
yes,
there
there
often
is
a
change
in
representation
after
districting.
Yes,
I
don't.
I
don't
have
a
quantification
of
that,
but
in
some
cases
yes
in
some
cases,
no
but
yeah
often
times.
Yes,
particularly
when
you
are
drawing
majority
minority
districts
oftentimes,
you
do
see
a
minority
member
elected.
B
Great,
thank
you
yeah.
I
think
it's
just
it's
just
you're
enhanced,
like
you're,
enhancing
the
opportunities
for
people
to
run,
because,
but
it
is
a
lot
less
right,
you're
dealing
with
a
less
population,
less
population
that
you
have
to
pay
for
flyers
and
such,
but
I
do
get
concerned
about
the
unanticipated
consequences
of
that.
B
If
there
aren't
other
measures
taken
to
ensure
that
there's
opportunities
still
for
individuals
to
run,
you
know
and
representation,
and
so
I
think
you
know
we'll
have
to
see
how
this
plays
out
as
we
move
forward
here
in
san
bernardino.
Thank
you.
E
Yeah-
and
I
always
tell
my
clients
that
you
know
when
I
was
teaching
political
science
to
tell
my
students
that
you
know
drawing
these
district
boundaries
is,
is
only
one
one
small
part
of
the
representation
puzzle
right.
Voters
also
have
to
you
know
we
look
at
citizen
voting
age
population,
but
you
have
to
make
sure
that
those
eligible
voters
are
registered
to
vote
and
turn
out
to
vote
and
that
you
have
people
running
for
office.
E
So
you
know
we
need
to
ask
folks
that
in
our
community
that
we
think
would
make
good
leaders
we
need
to
ask
them
to
run
for
office.
We
know
that
women
and
and
people
of
color
and
minorities,
often
don't
run
unless
someone
asks
them.
So
please
ask
people
to
run
for
office,
ensure
that
your
friends,
family
and
neighbors
are
registered
to
vote
and
turn
out
to
vote
right.
All
of
that
is
beyond
the
scope
of
what
I
can
do
for
you
as
your
demographer.
A
C
Yes,
mayor
before
we
leave,
I
just
wanted
to
confirm
city
council
direction
because
I
I
do
think
I
heard
three
council
members
request
that
the
city
look
into
a
five
district
map
option
and
its
relation
to
measure
f,
and
is
there
the
ability,
through
this
process,
for
the
city
council
to
consider
five
district
mapping?
In
the
comments?
I
I
heard
a
majority
of
council
members
say
that
I
just
want
to
confirm
that,
because
staff
will
take
that
as
direction.
C
In
addition,
the
the
other
thing
request
that
was
made
was
for
the
city
attorney
to
clarify
how
the
jail
population
is
counted
for
these
maps,
and
so
I
just
want
to
confirm
from
the
city
council
that
that's
clear
directions
and
the
two
takeaways
from
this
meeting.
B
One
addition
is
that
for
the
maps
and
also
for
the
census,
how
they're
counted?
Thank
you.
A
Okay,
did
that
last
caveat
city
manager
make
sense,
are
okay,
yeah.
C
A
Correct
okay
looks
like
there's
direction
and
thank
you
for
this
public
hearing
appreciate
our
folks
that
gave
the
presentation
again.
We
appreciate
it
and
thank
you
to
staff,
and
so
with
that
being
no
further
business,
we'll
go
ahead
and
insure
this
meeting
to
the
next
regular
city
council
meeting,
which
will
be
held
on
october
26
2021
at
7
00
pm
via
zoom
everybody
enjoy
the
rest
of
your
evening.