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From YouTube: San Bruno Planning Commission Meeting April 19, 2011
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San Bruno Planning Commission Meeting April 19, 2011
B
B
D
B
C
I
would
just
like
to
make
the
announcement
that
Erin
Ackman
the
community
development
director
is
not
here
tonight
because
he,
his
wife,
just
had
a
baby
boy
on
Friday
650
am
6
pounds,
10
ounces
name
is
Jack,
ackman
and
I'll
be
filling
in.
My
name
is
Mark
Sullivan
I'll
be
filling
in
for
Erin
for
the
probably
the
next
month.
B
B
E
My
name
is
rodriguez,
oh
well,
thank
you,
Commissioner
Peterson
and
share
Peterson.
My
name
is
Richard
hedges
and
I
live
at
904,
wharfside
road
in
san
mateo
and
I'm
coming
to
you
tonight
with
an
invitation
you
may
or
should
have
at
least
received
an
email
from
myself
and
Marshall
Loring
regarding
a
tour
to
contra,
Costa
transit
village.
It's
going
to
take
place
this
weekend,
we're
going
to
meet
at
the
millbrae
bart
station
at
9,
45
a.m.
we've
acquired
from
MTC
20
clipper
cards.
E
Context
to
the
city
council
people,
but
I
think
we
can
to
you
and
we're
going
to.
We
chose
this
date
for
a
couple
of
reasons:
the
people
playing
it
have
very
busy
schedules.
This
was
open,
that's
the
first
one
and
the
second
one
is
that
that
it's
an
excellent
day
to
travel
by
bart
to
contra
costa
transit
center,
because
no
one
has
to
change
trains
on
that
day
and
for
people
who
are
new
to
transportation.
E
The
nervous
most
nervous
I've,
seen
people
coming
to
the
airport
on
bart
is
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
how
to
change
trains
at
at
the
san
bruno
station.
So
we
thought
this
would
really
work
well
for
people
like
yourself
for
decision
makers
and
that's
why
we
invited
you
to
see
a
transit-oriented
is
completed
that
has
the
highest
bicycle
loading
of
any
bart
station
in
the
system
that
has
lowered
their
single
car
trips
by
thirty
two
percent
that
has
evolved
over
16
years.
E
It's
a
model
for
taking
density
from
very
moderate
and
low
and
very
moderate
higher,
as
it
goes
to
the
center
near
the
bart
station.
It
has
a
five-story
apartment.
Building
right,
I
can
hit
it
with
my
old
weak
arm,
with
a
baseball
from
the
bart
station
or
from
the
bart
platform,
and
it
has
all
of
its
units
are
accessible
there.
E
You
either
can
be
accountable
to
folks
who
with
disabilities,
because
it's
set
up
with
all
quirements
and
ten
percent
of
a
more
accessible
I,
don't
know
whether
you're
aware,
but
in
2002
2003,
the
grand
jury
in
San
Mateo
County
did
a
report
on
ready
wheels
outlining
how
stressed
the
system
already
was
financially.
Since
then,
funding
has
dropped.
E
The
need
has
gone
up,
we'll
have
an
onslaught
of
seniors
65
and
over
in
the
next
20
years
here,
and
we
have
to
start
building
developments
that
allow
people
who
are
disabled
or
young
and
want
to
work
in
our
community
to
live
near
transit
because
I
don't
know
whether
you've
noticed
the
gas
pumps
lately.
This
is
not
going
away
this
time
and
it's
going
to
continue
to
rise.
People
are
going
to
be
limited.
E
These
are
the
developments
of
the
future
you'll
get
a
chance
to
see
something
that
that
melds
in
very
well
in
the
suburban
type
of
element.
You
guys
have
done
a
wonderful
job
at
the
same
san
bruno
bart
station,
with
the
development
on
the
old
military
base.
I
think
it's
wonderful,
I've
toured
it,
and
I
would
like
for
you
to
see
something.
That's
totally
built
out
and
totally
transform
development.
I've
got
a
a
flyer
or
actually
a
packet
for
you
and
may
I
approach
and
give
you
some
business
cards.
Please.
E
C
B
E
Saturday,
the
23rd
we're
gonna
meet
at
the
Mowbray
bart
station.
That's
probably
a
little
less
convenient
for
you
than
much
of
the
rest
of
the
county.
I
think
we're
going
to
have
about
20
people,
I'm,
hoping
that
we
are
and
more
possibly,
but
you
one
never
knows
to
look
to.
The
tour
begins
I've
taken
a
tour
myself
and
it's
an
excellent
tour.
E
B
B
No
seeing
none
we'll
move
on
to
public
hearings,
genda
item
58,
599,
Cedar,
Avenue
zoning,
our
one
request
for
a
planned
unit
permit
tentative
tract
map
and
architectural
review
to
allow
the
construction
of
14
new
single-family
homes
for
chapter
12,
point
32,
12.1,
16
of
the
San
Bruno
zoning
ordinance
staff
report.
Please
thank.
F
You
good
evening,
commissioners,
the
Adam,
before
his
request
for
a
planned
unit
permit
and
a
tentative
parcel
map
to
allow
the
development
of
14
new
single-family
homes
on
a
currently
vacant
parcel.
The
subject
site
is
1.9
acres
in
area
and
is
located
at
the
corner
of
cedar
drive
and
excuse
me
Cedar,
Avenue
and
pepper
drive.
As
you
recall,
in
2008,
the
Planning
Commission
approved
a
similar
development
at
this
site,
and
that
was
also
414
single-family
homes.
Those
homes
were
larger
than
the
development
before
you.
F
They
ranged
in
size
from
3,100
square
feet
to
3,600
square
feet
in
area
and
the
average
lot
size
of
that
development
was
about
2,800
square
feet.
That
developer
was
not
able
to
complete
the
project.
The
current
applicant
has
submitted
a
revised
project
for
your
consideration
this
evening
and
that
project
includes
the
development
of
14
new
single-family
homes,
but
with
a
smaller
overall
size
and
a
more
traditional
architectural
style
than
the
previous
project.
The
road
accessing
the
development
will
be
a
private
road
as
well
as
all
the
utilities
located
within
the
roadway.
F
The
proposed
Lots
range
in
size
from
2,900
square
feet
to
5,500
square
feet
with
the
average
lot
size
of
about
3,600
square
feet
and
the
homes
will
range
in
size
from
2300
square
feet
to
2,400
square
feet,
and
that
does
include
the
two-car
garage.
The
architect
has
presented
two
different
floor
plan
options,
each
with
two
different
facade
variations.
F
The
architectural
details
of
the
proposed
new
homes
were
reviewed
by
the
architecture
review
committee
at
its
december
16th
meeting,
and
at
that
meeting
the
committee
requested
additional
architectural
variation,
more
details,
darker
color
scheme
and
additional
green
building
measures.
The
applicant
has
incorporated
the
additional
facade
articulation
as
requested
and
with
particular
attention
to
the
Lots
facing
cedar.
Those
means
lots,
10
and
11.
If
you
saw
on
the
plan,
there's
little
Bay
projections
there,
so
it
does
have
a
nice
treatment
to
the
exterior
side
elevation
rather
than
a
large
blank
wall.
F
The
applicant
has
also
presented
a
darker
color
scheme.
I
do
have
the
color
board
here
and
they
do
have
kind
of
darker
warm
rich,
colors
I'll.
Let
the
applicant
address
the
green
building
measures
in
hit
part
of
his
presentation.
The
applicant
did
conduct
a
public
outreach
in
September
of
last
year.
That
meeting
was
attended
by
approximately
15
residents
from
the
neighborhood
and
comments
were
generally
favorable
for
the
project.
F
The
review
and
approval
of
the
2008
project
did
include
the
preparation
of
a
mitigated
negative
declaration.
That's
our
environmental
review
document
and
we
asked
the
consultant
that
prepared
that
document
to
take
a
look
at
this
project
and
he
did
so
and
prepared
an
initial
study
based
on
the
consultants,
review
and
preparation
of
the
initial
study.
It
was
determined
that
this
revised
project
before
you
did
not
result
in
any
new
or
any
new
severe
impacts
than
was
previously
analyzed
and
mitigated.
F
So,
therefore,
we
prepared
an
addendum
to
the
mitigated
negative
declaration
that
is
attached
to
your
staff
report,
but
that
document
does
not
require
any
action
by
the
Planning
Commission.
So
your
approval,
the
2008,
mitigated
negative
declaration,
is
all
that's
needed
for
the
environmental
review
and
part
of
this
project.
F
A
A
F
The
applicant
address
the
pole
in
the
right
away,
but
if
you
see
on
the
map
a
lot
of
the
utility
lines
on
the
interior,
the
property
will
need
to
be
under
grounded.
Some
will
have
to
remain
because
they
are
the
high
power
lines,
so
they
can't
underground
all
of
them,
but
I'll.
Let
the
applicant
address
the
one
on
the
street
did.
D
D
G
Thank
You,
chair
Peterson,
my
name
is
Wilson
Hugh
I
work
with
Westgate
ventures
in
san
ramon.
We
have
been
working
with
lennar
homes
since
the
project's
inception
or
at
least
since
the
beginning
of
our
involvement
way
back
in
april
of
2010
I'm
joined
tonight
by
Jennifer
Mastro
from
Strauss
Design
Group,
the
project's
architect
and
Stephen
Jones
from
lennar
homes
as
well
as
Eddie
su
from
RJ.
A
the
community
civil
engineer,
I'd
like
to
begin
by
thanking
staff
for
doing
a
great
job
on
this
project,
especially
Aaron
and
Lisa.
G
Approving
that
project,
as
well
as
some
of
the
neighbor
comments,
appeared
that
there
were
some
concerns
that
still
lingered
about
that
project,
especially
relating
to
the
kapap,
its
incompatibility
with
the
surrounding
neighborhood.
So
you
know
we
took
a
look
at
the
project
and
really
went
back
to
the
drawing
board.
G
G
Now
I
think
there
are
a
number
of
things
that
I'd
like
to
point
out
about
the
site
plan,
because
when
you
reduce
the
size
of
the
house,
it
actually
gives
you
a
lot
more
open
space
to
play
with,
and
you
can
actually
reallocate
the
use
of
that
space
in
a
much
more
efficient
manner
than
I.
Think
was
done
in
the
old
program.
G
Yeah
I
mean
just
for
reference.
We
have
a
copy
of
the
site
plan
for
the
project
that
was
approved
in
2008
and,
since
a
lot
of
you
were
actually
on
the
Planning
Commission
during
that
time,
you
probably
remember
it
pretty
well
and
I.
Think
it's
best
for
me
to
sort
of
describe
some
of
the
changes
that
we've
made.
Just
by
being
able
to
compare
the
two
plans.
I
think
the
the
biggest
change
that
we've
made
aside
from
the
size
and
the
architectural
style
of
the
buildings
really
has
to
do
with
how
we've
reallocated
the
space.
G
G
G
I'm
glad
I
brought
my
pointer
here
if
you
look
at
these
houses
here
that
orient
towards
pepper
drive
and
in
fact,
I
think
this
is
true
for
most
of
the
program.
That
project
had
the
very
large
houses,
with
only
three
foot
side
yard
setbacks,
which
meant
that
you
really
only
had
a
six-foot
separation
in
between
the
buildings.
What
we've
really
tried
to
do
is
match
the
the
rest
of
the
neighborhood
and
increase
both
the
front
yard
setbacks
and
the
side
yard
setbacks.
So
at
a
minimum.
G
This
community
now
has
four
foot
side,
yard
or
four
foot,
side,
yard
setbacks
and
eight
feet
between
the
buildings
that
are
as
a
minimum,
but
we're
where
the
community
interfaces
most
closely
with
the
surrounding
neighbors
up
here
on
pepper,
dr
that's,
where
you'd
actually
have
existing
homes
across
the
street,
we've
increased
the
side
yard
setbacks
from
the
original
three
feet
to
between
five
and
six
feet.
So
a
lot
of
those
homes
will
actually
now
have
between
10
and
12
feet
between
the
homes
and
the
street
seasons
no
longer
up
there
before.
G
Now,
overall,
as
I
mentioned,
you
know
one
of
our
guiding
principles
and
designing
this
project
really
had
to
do
with
trying
to
match
the
existing
neighborhood.
And
the
other
thing
that
I'd
like
to
point
out
is
that
the
orientation
and
the
configuration
of
our
block
for
lack
of
a
better
term
seems
to
make
a
lot
more
sense.
We
have
homes
on
pepper
drive
which
just
oriented
the
north
and
everything
else
just
Orient's
to
the
south.
G
We
did
not
like
the
idea
of
having
you
know
a
third
of
our
houses
facing
north,
some
of
them
facing
east
and
some
of
them
facing
west.
So
what
we've
really
done
is
try
to
reconfigure
the
site
plan
so
that
we
just
have
a
much
more
organic
block
that
matches
the
rest
of
the
neighborhood.
Now
one
of
the
nice
by-products
of
that
is
that
I
think
we
can
alleviate
a
lot
of
the
lingering
neighbor
concerns
that
we
had
in
2008
about
that
privacy.
G
If
you
look
at
the
old
program,
you
had
five
houses
on
the
southern
border
border
of
the
of
the
project,
and
a
lot
of
folks
were
still
pretty
concerned
about
the
impact
on
their
privacy
because
folks
would
be
on
in
their
second
story
windows
looking
down
into
the
neighbors
backyards.
So
by
putting
our
houses
in
that
location
on
the
other
side
of
the
street,
I
think
we've
gone
a
long
way
towards
mitigating
that
concern.
In
addition,
I
think
we've
really
beefed
up
the
landscaping,
that
is
on
the
southern
border
of
the
property.
G
The
the
old
project
had
a
I
believe
a
two-foot
landscaping
buffer
that
was
supposed
to
screen
the
houses,
the
existing
neighbors
from
the
south
from
the
new
project,
and
what
we've
done
is
increase
that
buffer
space
to
about
six
feet
and
the
one
other
thing
that
I'd
like
to
I
know.
There
was
some
concern
about
parking
before
when
we've
oriented
the
the
three
houses
that
used
to
be
on
the
eastern
portion
of
the
site.
G
One
thing
that
I
wanted
to
address
and
I
think
Commissioner
Marshall
might
have
alluded
to
it
earlier
from
day
one.
When
we
first
started
looking
at
this
piece,
we
recognized
very
quickly
that
we
were
next
to
a
PG&E
substation,
and
we
also
realized
that
we
had
a
lot
of
power
lines
traversing
the
site,
and
we
understood
that
to
be
probably
are
we
figured.
That
would
probably
be
our
most
difficult
technical
challenge
in
getting
this
built.
I
do
have
one
other
exhibit
that
I
can
put
up
there.
If
you
can
bear
with
me
for
a
second.
G
B
G
If
you
can
see
the
the
blue
lines
that
I've
highlighted
they're
coming
across
and
coming
down,
those
represent
the
lines
that
are
currently
on
the
site
and
if
you
look
at
the
red
lines
here,
that
is
in
in
short,
where
we
are
planning
on
relocating
the
lines
now.
I
understand
that
everybody's
hope
back
in
2008
was
that
it
would
be
possible
to
completely
underground
everything
on
the
site,
but
in
some
sense
that
is
actually
a
little
bit
of
a
physical
impossibility
and
the
reason
for
that.
G
On
this
on
the
portion
of
the
site,
where
the
neighbor
probably
will
not
care
about
the
aesthetic
impact
of
those
poles,
namely
PG&E,
as
you
can
see,
we've
put
the
new
poles
along
that
red
line
right
there,
and
then
they
would
then
underground
to
two
different
locations.
One
down
here
to
one
of
the
poles
on
a
neighboring
property.
Somebody
we've
already
talked
to
and
is
supportive
of
the
project,
and
then
we
will
also
be
rising
up
on
a
couple
poles
on
on
sedar
now.
I
understand.
G
The
polls
on
sedar
at
some
time
were
something
that
we're
up
for
discussion
a
while
back
the
one
on
by
unfortunate
byproduct
of
this
undergrounding
plan
and
we've
tried
everything
that
we
can
do
to
try
to
get
around.
It
is
that
we
will
probably
have
to
add
one
more
poll
to
the
the
error
right
on
Cedar
Avenue
and
just
perf
oldest
cloture.
You
know
that
is
something
that
we've
been
talking
to
staff
about
since
day
one,
and
it
is
something
that
we've
disclosed
to
all
the
neighbors
way
back
at
the
fall
neighborhood
meeting.
G
While
it
is
one
little
blemish
on
the
project-
and
we
don't
love
the
idea
of
having
a
new
to
a
new
electrical
pole
right
in
front
of
our
models,
it
looks
like
that
is
probably
the
only
solution
here.
We
have
talked
with
PG&E
about
trying
to
do
some
extra
housecleaning
as
they
call
it
by
trying
to
move
around
the
equipment
that
is
on
the
poles
in
that
area,
so
that
we
could
then
rise
up
on
the
pole
that
wanted
to
right
there,
but
that's
the
possibility.
G
So
that
is
the
the
project
in
a
nutshell,
and
you
know
obviously
will
be
available
here
for
any
questions
you
might
have
on
some
of
the
details.
But
there
is
one
other
thing
that
I
want
to
bring
up,
and
that
has
to
do
with
some
of
the
green
building
measures
that
Commissioner
abusada
brought
up
at
our
architectural
review
committee
meeting.
I
believe
there
are
two
items
in
particular
that
you
had
some
interest
in:
one
was
the
tankless
water
heater
and
the
second
had
to
do
with
solar
panels.
G
I'm
going
to
tell
you
upfront,
you
may
not
be
super
happy
with
my
answer,
but
I'll
give
you
a
good
justification
for
why
we've
done
a
lot
of
work
investigating
whether
the
tankless
water
heaters
would
work
well
on
this
side
and
what
we
find
and
Lennar
has
actually
used.
Tankless
water
heaters
in
the
past.
None
of
the
projects
but
tankless
water
heaters
really
work
well
in
two
situations:
the
first
one
being
in
a
smaller
house,
with
a
smaller
household
and
fewer
hot
water
fixtures.
G
The
reason
being
that
the
most
efficient
see
that
you
pick
up
from
a
tankless
water
heater
over
a
water
heater
with
a
tank
is
in
those
intermittent
periods
where
nobody
is
actually
using
any
hot
water,
and
that
is
most
likely
true
in
a
situation
where
you've
got
a
one
or
two
bedroom
condo
and
one
or
two
people
living
there
and
they
go
long
stretches
of
time
without
actually
needing
the
hot
water.
The
second
situation,
where
a
tankless?
G
What
hot-water
heater
really
works
well
is
actually
sort
of
the
opposite
situation,
where
you
have
a
very
large
house,
and
you
supplement,
for
instance,
a
bathroom
that
is
very
far
from
the
the
primary
tank
system,
and
that
saves
you
all
the
water
that
would
normally
be
going
down
that
long,
plumbing
rum.
As
you
might
guess,
we
don't
have
either
of
those
situations
in
these
houses.
You
know
they're.
Basically,
four
bedroom
houses
with
three
bathrooms
and
in
a
likelihood
we're
also
get
going
to
have
a
range
of
household
sizes
could
be
two
people.
G
And
I'm
not
sure
if
anybody
in
the
commission
is
aware
of
this,
but
linares
a
very
large
home
builder.
They
build
tens
of
thousands
of
houses
all
across
the
country
every
year
and
they
were
in
fact
the
first
national
home
builder
to
begin
installing
solar
panels
as
a
standard
feature
in
a
number
of
their
communities.
So
if,
if
they
had
their
druthers,
they
would
be
installing
solar
panels
on
almost
every
project
that
they
build
here
in
California.
G
It
has
a
lot
to
do
with
the
fact
that
there
is
a
there's,
a
lot
of
grade
variation
on
the
site
and
on
we've
got
a
lot
of
houses
sort
of
at
the
bottom
of
a
hill,
and
on
that
hill
we
are
trying
to
preserve
as
many
trees
as
possible
and,
as
you
may
know,
even
a
small
amount
of
shade
can
dramatically
impact
the
effectiveness
and
efficiency
of
a
photovoltaic
cell.
So,
for
that
reason,
lennar
does
not
want
to
go
forward
with
putting
solar
cells
on
these
homes.
G
It
is
possible
in
three
four
or
five
years
from
now
that
solar
cells
may
make
sense
on
this
site.
It
could
be
from
improvements
in
technology.
It
could
be
from
lower
cost
of
solar
panels
and,
quite
frankly,
it
could
also
come
from
the
fact
that
PG&E
rates
may
may
skyrocket.
For
whatever
reason,
any
number
of
those
things
will
then
make
solar
panels
on
these
houses
make
a
little
bit
more
sense.
B
G
24
requirements
and
for
the
folks
who
might
not
be
in
the
audience
title
24
is
basically
dictates
the
state
requirements
for
energy
efficiency,
for
new
housing
in
the
state
and,
as
you
may
know,
those
standards
have
changed
over
time
up
until
two
thousand
ten.
They
were
still
going
by
the
2005
standards
in
2008.
G
They
came
up
with
new
standards,
but
those
were
not
actually
implemented
until
2010
and
the
new
standards
were
actually
fifteen
percent
more
efficient
than
the
the
old
standards,
but
four
years
with
sustainability,
energy
conservation
and
green
building
in
general,
being
a
very
important
part
of
linares
culture.
They
have
been
building
to
a
Tier
one
standard
for
many
years.
Tier
one
is
a
voluntary
standard,
which
means
that
you
are
actually
building
a
house
that
is
fifteen
percent
more
efficient
than
what
the
state
requires.
G
It
may
not
have
some
of
the
sexier
bells
and
whistles
like
the
solar
panels,
but
there's
if
you
consider
the
house
sort
of
an
energy
system,
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
you
can
do
both
passive
and
active.
That
help
reduce
energy
usage,
better
insulation
in
the
walls,
better
insulation
in
the
roofs,
high
efficiency,
furnaces,
higher
efficiency,
water
heaters
that
have
a
tank
as
well
as
better
windows,
doors
and
insulated
ductwork.
G
So,
like
I,
said,
lennar
is
very,
very
they're,
very,
very
proud
of
their
green
culture.
In
fact,
I
understand
they
recently
changed
their
business
cards
that
they're
they're
green,
but
anyway,
I
don't
want
to
bore
you
with
too
many
of
those
details.
In
short,
I
think
we've
got
a
project
here
that
we've
really
improved
in
many
ways
it
fits
into
the
it
really
weaves
itself
into
the
fabric
of
the
existing
neighborhood
a
lot
better.
G
It
is
quantifiably,
green
and
I,
see
a
you
know,
a
couple
people
from
the
church
here
the
church
has
been
working
on
this
property
for
about
10
or
11
years
now
and
I
know.
Some
of
the
neighbors
in
the
area
have
also
been
sort
of
working
with
the
church
on
this
and
I
think
we
finally
have
something
that
everybody
is
pretty
excited
to
see,
go
forward.
G
A
The
chair
market
I
appreciate
your
comments
on
the
PG&E
cable
wires,
but
that
really
wasn't
even
addressed
of
my
specific
question
I
had
for
11
company
so
that
something
is
impossible.
I
don't
like
impossible.
It
could
be
costly
and
difficult,
but
nothing's
impossible,
but
my
question
was
the
top:
it's
the
power
pole
that
is
currently
on
Cedar
Avenue
on.
Would
you
be
on
your
southeast
corner
of
yours
and
a
new
street
mm-hmm?
A
There
was
currently
one
right
on
the
corner
of
the
your
neighbors
lot
and
his
concerned
major,
concerning
that
after
I
went
by
there
I
was
looked
at.
The
polls
actually
would
be
right
where
your
driveway
is
now
and
we
were
told
that
it
was
going
to
have
to
move
on
in
front
of
his
property,
because
the
way
I
believe
your
driveway
is
exactly
the
same
or
real
close
to
same
as
the
previous
applicant.
Is
that
correct?
It's.
A
There
is
one
now
there
is
one
now
right
where
your
driveway
is
your
your
proposed
driveway
is,
and
the
last
applicant
was
said
it
was
it
going
to
be,
have
to
be
moved
to
the
south
a
couple
feet
which
would
have
been
on
the
current
properties
driveways
or
blocking
access
there
and
I
was
that
was
my
concerns
and
I
and
went
before
you
had
said
that
my
other
question
would
be
if
you
could
explain
the
traffic
flow
on
the
new
street
and
parking
and
turn
around,
and
that
kind
of
stuff,
real,
quick
sure.
Well,.
B
G
G
Me
try
to
address
the
the
question
now
about
the
power
pole.
First,
one
of
the
things
that
I
mentioned
is
that
we've
got
a
little
bit
more
of
a
buffer
on
the
south
side
of
our
properties,
and
the
previous
applicant
had
I
believe
it's
an
extra
four
feet
and
that
will
obviate
the
need
for
us
to
move
any
poles.
So.
A
G
G
A
A
G
G
G
In
terms
of
traffic
flow
I
know
the
there
was
a
traffic
study
done
for
the
original
project
for
the
larger
houses
and
basically
the
conclusion
was
that
there
would
be
a
lesson.
Significant
impact
on
the
level
of
service
on
any
of
the
major
intersections
around
here
and
in
terms
of
the
number
of
peak
trips
I.
Believe
the
study
concluded
that
we'd
be
looking
at
approximately
14
trips
per
peak
hour,
which
I
think
translates
into
maybe
one
extra
car,
every
four
and
a
half
minutes,
or
so
maybe.
A
I'm,
maybe
I'm
humble
in
here
my
questions
are
I,
just
a
traffic
light.
I
meant
like.
If
you
go
down
the
street
I,
don't
see
a
turnaround
in
or
that
at
the
end
of
a
lot
be.
There
is
how
to
turn
around
I'm
thinking
for
UPS
trucks
or
delivery
trucks.
Are
they
gonna
have
to
go
down
there
and
then
back
up
with
their
BP
BP?
Oh
no.
A
A
A
G
A
G
G
That
I
could
yeah.
That
was
one
of
the
reasons
that
that
was
actually
one
of
the
things
that
we
tried
to
improve
upon
in
the
the
old
project,
where
they
had
their
turn
around.
They
actually
had
all
their
street
parking,
which,
from
a
practical
standpoint,
doesn't
actually
work
very
well,
but
that
the
way
it
used
to
be
designed,
we,
we
elected
to
put
the
street
parking
away
from
the
turnaround.
B
D
Thank
you
for
the
list
of
sustainability
items.
I
had
fun.
Reading
them.
I
have
couple
questions.
First
of
all,
as
far
as
the
solar
panels
are
concerned,
instead
of
wiring,
the
house
I
would
prefer
personally.
I
would
prefer
that
a
conduit
be
provided
from
the
roof
to
say
the
Demeter
so
that,
instead
of
the
wires
you're
providing
a
path
so
5
6
10
15
years
from
now,
the
wires
may
be
out
of
style
or
may
not.
D
G
To
be
honest,
I'm
not
sure
if
we
have
actually
gotten
that
far
on
the
CCN
ours,
but
obviously,
if
we
are
going
to
pre
want
or
when
I
say
pre-wire.
Actually,
what
I'm
talking
about
is
is
in
many
respects
the
conduit
that
you're
talking
about,
but
we
will
be
sure
to
make
sure
that
approval
of
solar
panels
is
not
something
that
gets
precluded
by
the
DHA
way.
Okay,.
D
D
G
You
know
that
actually,
the
air
conditioning
system,
quite
frankly,
is
something
that
gets
decided
on
a
little
later
on
in
the
project.
Usually
it's
something
that
we
install,
because
people
like
to
have
them,
but
you
know
with
possible
that
they
might
not
even
be
standard
and
they
could
be
an
option.
I.
D
Was
just
surprised
to
see
that
in
this
proposal
that
there's
an
AC
system
being
proposed
for
the
houses
and
as
charted
as
a
sustainability
matter,
I
understand
the
agent
you
using
as
a
chlorine
free
agent
but
I
still
don't
find
AC
unit
sustainable
in
this
climate?
In
my
opinion,
the
other
question
I
had
was
I
understand
you
change
the
colors
to
do
be
a
little
bit
darker
in
order
to
suit
the
architectural
committee
Architectural
Review
Board
correct
was
the
cool
roof.
G
G
G
B
C
C
F
C
F
C
C
C
Yeah
I'd
like
to
commend
you
on
the
effort
that
you
put
with
your
green
thinking
on
this
project
and
I
commend
you
for
including
at
least
the
wiring,
for
the
possibility
for
solar
in
a
project
in
the
future
conditions.
88
291
would
be
referred
to
street
lighting,
and
that
was
the
one
situation
where
we
hadn't
really
looked
at
energy
efficiency,
and
it's
not
there's
nothing
asked
for.
As
far
as
echoes
do
you
have
any
options
or
possibilities
to
go
to
a
high
efficiency
street
light.
G
G
C
B
Any
other
questions
I'd
like
to
thank
you
very
much
for
a
very
low
key
and
understandable
presentation
that
address
many
of
the
issues
from
the
previous
submit
all
to
this
one
and
your
work
with
the
city
staff,
as
well
as
the
neighborhood
neighbors,
which
is
essential,
but
it
I
can
see
from
your
documentation
on
your
presentation.
You've
been
very
active
in
that
respect.
So
if
you
have
any,
if
you
don't
have
other
comments,
all
open
the
public
hearing,
nothing.
B
G
C
Name
is
Marty
de
Luna,
and
I
live
on
575
hawthorne
avenue,
which
I
think
is
directly
behind
unit
number
three,
that
map
I
just
had
a
couple
questions
I
appreciate
the
rework
of
the
design
and
scale
back
and,
of
course,
what
being
behind
those
units
there.
We
certainly
had
a
issue
with
privacy
and
sums
like
you
addressed.
Some
of
that
I
just
want
to
know
about
the
sound
and
wind
issues
and
I'm
not
sure
how
tall
those
trees
are
going
to
be
they're
going
to
be
behind
us.
B
C
You
thank
you.
Thank
you
so
so
one
of
my
question
is,
of
course,
is
the
sound
and
win
a
shoe
I'm
our
unit
writing
back,
and
certainly
the
other
ones
too,
along
Hawthorne
Avenue.
The
other
question
is
about
the
electrical
line.
That's
running
from
a
tall
pole
that
goes
directly
to
my
house,
not
sure
how
that's
going
to
affect
their
development
and
where
that
line
is
going
to
go,
seems
pretty
far
and
might
cut
across
some
of
the
units
blonde
corner
there,
and
my
other
question
was
the
effect
of
our
backyard.
C
If
it's
going
to
be
sloping
toward
the
development,
if
it's
going
to
be
a
drain,
is
your
shoe
or
is
there
some
kind
of
mitigation
on
that
end
that
you
know
what
would
help
mitigate
any
kind
of
effect
that
in
our
sloping
down,
we
have
trees
and
on
our
property
too
I?
Don't
they're
going
to
be
an
issue
as
far
as
they
could
eventually
fall
down
or
or
any
liability?
On
that
end,
we
like
to
keep
those
trees
as
part
of
the
privacy
issue
we
have
so
those
are
questions.
I
have
thank
you.
Okay,.
B
G
I'll
try
to
address
all
of
them.
I'll
start
with
the
last
one.
First,
the
concern
about
drainage
I
think
this
site
actually
has
a
history
of
drainage
problems
that
that's
primarily
because
there's
no
drainage
system
and
we
will
be
installing
one.
What
we've
got
out
there
or
what
we're
proposing
is
a
5-foot
detention
basin
that
will
slow
down
the
flow
and
keep
water
on
site
before
it
enters
the
facility.
G
In
terms
of
you
know,
any
work
on
his
lot,
nothing's
going
to
be
happening.
We're
we're
not
going
to
be
touching
a
single
tree
on
any
of
the
private
lots
around
us.
With
the
exception
of
you,
know,
one
power
pole
that
is
existing
on
the
Vickery
residence
and,
like
I
said,
we've
already
talked
with
them.
It's
just
that
the
underground
line
is
going
to
be
rising
up
on
that
pole
and
Dave.
B
G
C
C
My
name
is
Gail
mazzini
and
I
live
on.
Sedar
question
is
street
lighting
since
a
great
number
of
us,
our
backyards,
butt
up
against
the
access
street.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
the
lighting
is
the
downed
I'm,
not
probably
using
the
correct
terms,
but
the
downed
lighting
so
that
we're
not
like
you
know,
a
spotlighted
that
our
whole
backyard
or
the
lights
are
coming
into
our
home
or
anything
like
that.
So
that
would
be
something
that
we
would
be
concerned
about
mm-hmm.
C
Also,
personally,
the
other
thing
is
what
mr.
Marshall
brought
up
and
I
believe
Lisa
addressed.
It
is
we
are
the
home
with
the
pole
next
to
us
and
it
does
have
that
guide
wire,
but
kind
of
holds
it
up.
The
concern
is
how
that
pole
will
be
held
up.
We
do
understand
that
it's
not
being
moved.
Our
property
is
fine,
but
there
is
the
safety
issue.
If
the
guidewire
is
gone,
what
else
is
going
to
be
there
to
hold
it?
Those
are
my
two.
Thank
you
good.
G
I'll
start
with
the
last
question:
first
yeah:
when,
when
we
remove
the
down
guy,
we
will
be
putting
in
what's
called
a
head
guy,
so
the
the
guy
water
that
holds
up
the
pole
will
be
above
ground.
Basically
in
terms
of
the
lighting
you
can
design
the
fixture
so
that
any
light
that
is
coming
out
of
it
is
on
our
property.
Only
so
the
neighbors
to
the
south
of
us
and
anybody
else
who
doesn't
want
any
extra
light
can
be
completely
shielded
from
it
very.
B
C
B
Take
a
look
at
their
conditions,
and
here
it
indicates
that
that
will
be
happening.
You're
welcome
any
other
members
of
the
public
like
to
make
a
comment
or
ask
a
question:
okay,
hearing
none
and
without
objection.
I'll
close
the
public
hearing
bring
the
matter
back
to
the
Commission
for
discussion.
C
D
C
B
For
my
part,
I
noticed
that,
in
the
conditions
and
the
findings,
there
are
a
number
of
references
to
a
period
of
during
which
the
project
will
be
constructed,
and
some
of
them
are
not
entirely
clear
how
they
coordinate
with
others
and
I'd
like
to
have
staff
to
review
that,
assuming
that
this
this
is
passed,
please
review
it
and
make
sure
they're
well
coordinated
clearly,
so
that
there
aren't,
how
do
you
say
disputes
over
it
in
the
future?
Would
that
be
all
right?
Okay,
any
other
comments
on
the
matter.
Okay,
I'll
call
for
the
question.
B
D
C
B
C
C
C
First
time
I
had
ever
been
there.
I
guess
I
must
have
forgotten
already.
It
was
a
very
interesting
conference.
If
you
will
a
lot
of
it
was,
you
know,
somewhat
the
same
old,
but
they
did
have
a
few
new
breakout
discussion
groups.
If
you
will,
whatever
for
lack
of
a
better
term,
I
did
happen
to
bring
back
a
couple
of
books.
Some
of
them
were
about
signage,
which
was
kind
of
very
interesting,
that's
kind
of
going
in
the
future
and
everything
and
I'm
not
going
to
bore
everybody
with
the
details,
but
it
was
a.
C
C
Be
a
saint
I
also
went
to
that
conference
and
I
have
a
forwarded
to
Erin
all
the
handouts
and
PDFs
from
that,
and
he
was
going
to
review
them,
but
I
think
he's
been
a
little
bit
busy
at
the
moment.
So
those
are
on
the
way
to
all
the
Commission
and
there's
also
a
legal
update
coming
from
mark
and
Connie
Jackson
that
should
be
coming
as
well.
C
F
D
Sure
I
just
have
one
more
racial
issue:
I
I
understand
that
sometimes
the
awning,
signage
or
etc
comes
to
the
arc.
Review.
Meetings
and
I've
noticed
that
in
San
Francisco,
for
example,
there's
a
lot
of
pigeons
that
occupy
the
space
in
the
awnings
and
I
haven't
seen
any
details
or
any
recommendations
for
protecting
the
awnings
from
pigeons
and
I.