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From YouTube: San Bruno City Council Meeting July 23, 2013 10b Salary & Benefits for City Clerk & Treasurer
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San Bruno City Council Meeting July 23, 2013
10b. Salary and Benefits for the Elected City Clerk and City Treasurer Positions
B
B
You
identified
an
intent
with
each
four-year
election
cycle,
at
which
time
the
elected
city,
clerk
and
elected
city.
Treasurer
positions
are
on
the
ballot
that
the
City
Council
would
make
a
review
of
the
salary
and
benefits
program
in
a
timely
manner
at
the
opening
of
the
filing
season.
In
order
that
any
interested
individual
in
San
Bruno,
who
would
qualify
for
one
of
those
positions,
has
an
opportunity
to
know
before
taking
out
papers
at
before
standing
for
election.
What
is
the
salary
and
benefit
program?
B
We're
bringing
this
item
to
you
tonight
in
order
that
you
could
discuss
and
hear
the
here
and
then
discuss
the
subcommittee's
recommendation
as
to
the
salary
and
benefit
program
for
these
positions
going
forward.
It's
my
intent
tonight
simply
to
give
you
that
background,
as
I
just
did
and
then
to
briefly
outline
the
consensus
of
the
subcommittee,
which
consisted
of
council
members,
I
vera
and
Salazar,
and
then
to
turn
over
any
additional
discussion
to
them
and
to
the
City
Council
as
a
whole.
That
subcommittee
meeting
took
place
last
Thursday
afternoon
Vince.
B
That
is
the
reason
for
the
oral
report,
as
opposed
to
a
written
report
in
your
in
your
packet
this
evening,
and
the
subcommittee
upon
consideration
is
recommending
that
the
City
Council
consider
a
an
annual
cost-of-living
adjustment
based
on
a
cost-of-living
index
to
be
determined
not
yet
determined
up
to
an
amount
of
not
to
exceed
two
percent
to
be
provided
on
an
annual
basis,
beginning
at
the
conclusion
of
the
fifth
year
of
any
incumbent
service
in
either
the
elected
clerk
or
elected
treasurer
office.
Only
to
the
fourth
step
for
the
top
step
of
the
salary
range.
B
This
program
is
offered,
as
I
indicated,
to
City
Council
members
and
indifferent
at
different
levels,
to
certain
individuals
on
our
city
staff.
The
intent
behind
that
opportunity,
as
I
understood
it
from
the
discussion
of
the
subcommittee,
was
to
recognize
the
need
and
the
benefit
to
the
city
into
the
city's
work
program.
Of
those
two
elected
officials
like
yourselves,
being
available
at
the
city's
option
via
Internet,
so
at
all
hours
at
all
away
from
the
office
that
those
individuals
can
be
communicated
with
reliably
via
internet
service.
B
So
with
that
in
it
in,
let
me
I'll
just
say
one
more
thing,
and
that
is
that,
should
the
City
Council
consensus
provide
some
direction
to
staff,
we
would
return
for
with
an
action
item
at
your
next
regular
meeting.
But
being
is
that
is
on
august,
twenty
seventh
and
therefore,
after
the
close
of
the
filing
period
for
the
2013
november
election,
it
would
be
desirable
tonight
for
you,
as
a
matter
of
public
information,
to
provide
some
signal
about
what
your
intent
is.
B
So
that
again,
the
intent
of
the
2006
action
can
be
delivered
to
the
public,
and
somebody
who
may
be
interested
in
running
for
one
of
those
elective
offices
would
have
an
opportunity
to
have
an
idea
about
what
the
salary
and
benefits
program
would
be.
Should
they
be
elected
to
that
office.
So
with
that
I'll
turn
it
over
to
the
subcommittee
for
any
additional
comments.
Okay,.
A
C
That
the
the
consensus
of
the
subcommittee
was
to
not
change
the
salary
for
the
first
four
years,
keep
it
as
it
is
from
2006
at
those
four
steps,
the
added
for
those
first
four
years.
The
added
benefit
would
be
the
Free
Bet
free
internet
and
the
reduced
costs
for
full
cable,
serve
the
cable
TV
service
and
then
my
comment
as
far
as
the
I
don't
believe.
C
I
know
there
was
some
talk
about
a
two
percent
cap
in
subsequent
years
after
the
first
four
years,
but
then
there
was
also
some
discussion
as
to
how
that
might
compare
with
no
increases
with
the
rest
of
the
employee,
the
other
bargaining
units.
So
that's
something
that
needs
to
be
discussed
and
maybe
there's
a
condition
in
comparison
with
other
bargaining
units
in
the
city.
One
thing
that,
in
my
opinion
we
wanted
to
do
was
to
once
and
for
all
separate
these
elected
officials
from
any
implication
of
being
compared
with
management
or
mid-management
bargaining
units.
D
Michael,
thank
you,
I'll.
Let
go
what
council
in
Navarra
said
regarding
the
separation
of
the
career
employees
that
are
represented
by
the
bargaining
units
versus
an
elected
position,
which
I
felt
is
is
different
enough
and
in
general,
commits
it's
a
position.
That's
really
contingent
on
the
public's
opinion
of
that
person's
performance,
and
you
know
after
the
four
years
are
up
for
election
and
they
have
to
go
and
demonstrate
to
the
people
that
they
are
worthy
of
maintaining
the
position.
So
it's
really
a
four-year
appointment.
D
D
If
we
assume
that
over
the
first
four
years
are
going
to
be
learning
the
job,
maybe
maybe
they
get
really
good
at
it,
and
people
come
to
recognize
them
as
a
person
that
they
go
to
its
City
Hall.
And
then,
if
we
were
to
have
that
position
turn
over
regularly,
it
probably
wouldn't
be
as
efficient
and
then
in
terms
of
maintaining
the
current
structure.
D
The
city
clerk
did
provide
us
a
salary
survey
for
other
clerks
and
in
the
county,
and
so
we
were
able
to
compare
it.
What
we
were
doing
with
our
with
our
base
salary
versus
what
the
other
cities
are
doing
and
our
top
step
right
now
matches
closely,
although
possibly
a
little
bit
below
what
the
other
cities
are
doing.
D
So
we
can
assume
that,
at
the
end
of
a
four-year
term,
we're
paying
what
other
cities
are
paying
a
seasoned
experienced
city
manager
so
that
the
salary
does
seem
in
there
I'm
sorry,
city
clerk,
so
that
they
are.
They
do
seem
reasonable
in
terms
of
what
everyone
else
is
doing
and
then
the
the
cost
of
living
would
then
just
be
an
adjustment
to
make
sure
that
that
position
doesn't
fall
too
far.
D
Out
of
sync,
you
want
one
thing
to
note,
because
we
are
keeping
that
that
same
scale
if
a
new
city
clerk
were
elected,
that
person
would
be
starting
at
the
at
the
bottom
of
the
scale
first
step
and
then
have
to
work
their
way
back
up
so
its
own.
This
is
really.
This
change
only
affects
City
Clerk's,
that
re-elected
to
a
second
or
third
term.
A
D
A
A
D
B
So
that
would
it
in
effect,
then,
if
I'm
doing
the
math
correctly,
you
would
step
one
would
occur
at
election
step
to
the
end
of
the
the
beginning
of
the
second
year,
beginning
of
the
third
year
beginning
of
the
fourth
year,
and
then
not
until
the
end
of
the
fifth
year.
So
there
would
be
a
gap
there
is
that
correct,
I.
C
B
C
B
C
C
E
I,
don't
believe
that
I
should
or
the
city
treasurer
should
have
a
cost
of
living
raise
when
the
rest
of
the
city
didn't
get
a
cost
of
living.
Raise.
That's
something
that
we
never
came
back
to
you
in
2010,
because
none
of
the
other
people
were
getting
raises,
and
we
didn't
feel
that
we
should
have
one
either.
So
that
really
took
care
of
the
fifth,
the
sixth
and
the
seventh
yeah
I.
A
Understand
what
I
was
getting
at
is
that
this
is
kind
of
a
one-off,
in
other
words
you're
talking
about
going
forward
for
a
new
city
clerk,
so
that
clerk
would
start
one
two
three
four
and
then
and
then
re-elected
but
you're
going
for
the
third
turn.
So
I
just
didn't
know
when
that
kicked
in,
because
this
is
a
kind
of
a
special
circumstance.
D
D
Right
and
giving
that
clarification,
I
think
that
that
makes
more
sense
in
what
we
had
proposed
before
that's
at
every
anniversary.
There
is
something
some
adjustment
and
we've
covered
the
only
the
first
three
anniversaries.
Nothing
happens
on
the
fourth
anniversary,
and
so
it
would
make
sense
for
what
we're
proposing
to
kick
in,
not
the
fourth
anniversary,
not
the
fifth
anniversary,
as
I
had
initially
said.
D
E
C
Jeremy,
smear
look
again
up
currently
the
way
the
ordinance
reads
and
the
salary
structure
is
that
there
are
four
steps
in
every
newly
elected
city.
Clerk
starts
at
step,
one
through
the
for
each
each
year
of
the
term,
the
four
years
there's
a
step,
and
so
at
the
fourth
year,
the
beginning
of
the
fourth
year
of
that
term.
That
is
currently
now
it's
eight
thousand
dollars.
C
E
C
E
F
Do
first
of
all
I
think
the
internet
added
on
is
excellent
idea.
That
means
that
after
five
o'clock
we
can
still
email
the
city
clerk
can
expect
a
response.
Is
that
what
that
means
so
anyway?
The
internet
thing
is
great.
I
I
have,
as
you
all
know.
Well
maybe
Michael
doesn't
know
cause.
F
We
hasn't
been
here
for
that
long,
but
I
have
a
philosophical
problem
with
any
elected
officials
getting
raises,
and
steps
and
I
realized
that
part
of
the
City
Clerk's
any
city
clerk's
job
in
this
city
anyway,
is
to
maintain
office
hours,
and
they
are
there
from
eight
to
five,
which
is
why
we
have
more
of
a
salary
than
we
do
for
City
Council
people
I've
been
on
this
board.
Cannons
Jim
and
I
have
been
on
this
board
for
18
years
now
we're
starting
we'll
we'll
be
starting
our
19th
year.
F
If
you
guys
get
reelected
our
19th
year
and
we
we
have
not
had
won
one
race
since
we
started
I'm
not
and
personally
I,
don't
think
we
should,
but
we
definitely
are
much
more
experienced
than
we
were
at
our
first
first
year.
So,
philosophically
I'm
totally
opposed
to
any
increases.
Our
regular
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
are
the
way
life
is
set
up
right
now
our
managers
go
to
the
top
step
and
that's
where
they
sit.
They
don't
get
any
raises
over.
That
is
that
correct
city
manager,
it.
B
Is
correct,
however,
the
salary
benefits
program
for
the
managers
in
our
organization
is
like
all
of
our
employees
subject
to
bargaining
unit
agreements
which,
from
time
to
time,
may
be
negotiated
and
may
provide
changes
to
salaries
or
benefits.
It
is
also
the
case
that
it
has
been.
There
have
been
no
salary
changes,
I
believe
or
any
city
bargaining
unit,
since
2008.
E
F
So
I
cannot
philosophically
give
it
to
an
elected
official.
When
are
other
people
don't
have
it
and
there
there
is
no
qualifications
for
running
for
city,
clerk
or
city
treasurer.
You
have
to
be
18
at
a
resident
of
san
bruno
and
a
registered
voter.
That's
it
and
then
you
go
out
and
campaign,
and
if
you
win
you
in
and
that's
all,
there
is
to
it
so
I'm
opposed,
except
for
the
internet.
Rico.
A
G
I,
probably
don't
have
a
firm
position
because
we
all
know
we
could
like
to
see
things
in
writing
and
listening
to
the
dialogue,
it'll
be
important.
What
comes
back
I
do
want
to
point
out
is
I
believe
I'm
almost
sure
was
the
vice
mayor
and
I,
who
no.6
SAT
with
the
city
treasurer
and
the
city
clerk
and
reviewed
this.
G
It
came
back
that
my
memory
is
correct
at
an
09
we
were
supposed
to
have
this
come
back
and
be
reviewed
between
May
and
June
reason
being
prior
to
the
filing
period
opening,
so
that
everybody
can
be
communicated
exactly
what
the
benefits
and
what
the
salary
animal
compensations
are.
So
with
this
coming
during
the
filing
period,
which
will
now
be
after
the
filing
period,
I
think
defeats
that
purpose
I,
don't
know
that
we
did
as
a
city
clerk
mentioned,
since
it
really
was
no
change
in
09.
G
G
So
Casper
and
I,
just
don't
remember
that
just
the
06
I
do
happen
to
recall
and
I
know
was
action
was,
and
review
has
to
be
done
prior
to
the
opening
file
of
period
for
the
reason
of
wanting
people
to
know
I,
don't
if
this
were
to
be
automatic
out
the
fifth
year
on
I.
Don't
agree
with
that.
If
we
have
city
employees,
as
was
already
mentioned,
that
are
furloughed,
if
we're
salary,
freeze,
diff
we're
in
hard
economic
times,
I
think
we,
the
vote
together
so
I,
don't
think
that
should
be
an
automatic.
G
When
we
don't
know
what
the
formula
is.
I
know
that
hasn't
been
established,
that's
important
for
me
to
see.
I
know
back
when
Irene
and
I
met,
they
were
more
tied.
They
were
tied
to
management.
They
were
that's
how
it
was,
and
that
was
separated
at
that
point,
so
that
was
established
back
in
06
that
that
no
longer
correlated
that
one
received
the
other
as
far
as
the
internet
as
well,
and
that
I
mean
I'm
fine
with
that
I
think
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense.
I!
A
Okay,
I'm,
no
secret
that
you
know
I
agree
with
Irene
as
far
as
what
she
said,
but
having
said
that,
it
is
sort
of
a
special
circumstance,
because
I
think
we're
very
fortunate
that
we
do
have,
even
though
there's
no
big
qualifications
listed
very,
very
competent
city
clerk
in
a
very
competent
city.
Treasurer
we
really
lucked
out
I
am
of
the
opinion
that
we
actually
should
appoint
a
city
clerk
in
a
city
treasurer
going
forward,
and
that
will
take
a
vote
of
the
people.
A
But
that's
later
on
having
having
said
that
the
automatic
kind
of
bothers
me,
but
given
the
circumstance
of
where
we
are
right
now,
and
this
in
fact,
I
think
this
year,
hopefully
being
a
one-off,
I
would
go
along
with
the
recommendation
of
the
subcommittee
in
this
particular
case,
but,
like
I
said,
I
think
we
have
to
be
very
cautious.
Nobody,
especially
the
council,
knows
this
more
than
anybody
else.
You
don't
get
into
this
elected
office,
especially
in
san
bruno,
to
to
make
its.
A
But
you
know
the
clerk
is
very
well
compensated.
So
is
the
treasurer
and
we're
very
fortunate
that
in
fact
they
do
a
very,
very
good
job.
The
citizens
should
know
that
we
could
have
someone
in
there
that
wasn't
qualified
at
all.
That
just
happened
to
get
in
there
because
of
a
fluke
during
the
election.
We
would
actually
have
to
spend
a
lot
more
money.
They
are
somebody
competent
to
actually
do
the
work
behind
the
scenes.
So,
having
said
that,
I
will
go
along
with
the
recommendation
of
a
subcommittee
I.
C
Might
I
mean
I'm
hearing
recommendations
and
I
know
we,
we
are
I'm
fully
supportive
of
recommending
an
increase
question
is
what
it
is
going
to
be,
and
at
what
time
does
it
get
implemented?
I
believe
that's
enough
to
let
any
prospective
candidate
know
that
this
is
what
you're
starting.
You
know,
you're
starting
salaries
for
the
first
four
years.
However,
there
is,
you
know
there
is
in
the
hopper
some
discussion
about
the
fifth
year
already
subsequent
year
after
the
fourth
year.
B
If
I'm
understanding
the
consensus
of
the
council,
that
is
exactly
as
I
understand
it
that
there
would
be
no
change
they,
except
for
the
provision
of
the
same
benefit
that
the
city
council
receives
relative
to
the
cable
television
services,
otherwise,
for
a
newly
potentially
newly
elected
clerk
or
treasurer
who
might
take
office
this
year
following
the
november
two
thousand
thirteen
election,
there
would
be
no
change
to
the
existing
salary
and
benefits
program.
The
only
change
that
I'm
hearing
as
a
result
of
the
subcommittee's
recommendation
and
the
what
appears
to
be
a.
B
Pending
consensus
of
the
city
council
is
to
consider
what
might
happen
for
a
elected
official
whose
tenure
continues
beyond
a
first
term,
which
would
not
be
anybody
who
is
out
there
in
the
public
now
who
might
want
to
take
out
papers.
So
they
believe
the
situation
is
clear.
If
I've
understood
you
correctly,.
G
20
so
I
think
that's
correct,
but
you
know
I
also,
maybe
just
share
that,
because
I
was
a
former
employer,
so
I
saw
it
from
another
side
way
before
it
used
to
be
that
the
city,
clerk
and
city
treasurer
would
have
to
come
before
the
podium
and
some
felt
beg
or
plead
and
ask
for
their
increases
along
outside
from
the
bargaining
units,
and
it
was
sometimes
caused
quite
a
bit
of
emotion.
You
had
a
lot
of
people
here,
an
elected
person
there
and,
in
essence,
are
elected
by
the
people.
G
However,
the
way
the
reason
this
system
was
set
up,
my
opinion
for
the
four
steps
automatic
is
because,
in
essence,
the
voters
have
brought
them
into
office
of
voters
can
take
people
out
of
office
and
it
also
brought
down.
I
thought
the
tension
level
as
far
as
having
this
type
of
dialogue
between
the
two
parties.
It
was
contentious
back
then,
and
I
remember
watching
some
of
the
meetings
and
tearful
I
mean
not
on
my
part
by
the
on
the
people
that
had
stand
over
there
on
that
podium.
G
So
I
think
this
is
a
better
system
and
with
that
system,
however,
comes
the
thought
that
then
it
can
never
go
up,
because
it's
it's
embedded
and
every
four
years
its
review.
So
I
don't
think
we
can.
Just
you
know,
sit
here
in
eternity
and
just
say:
well,
it
can't
ever
go
up.
So
I
think
once
we
have
a
formula
once
it's
very
well
detailed
and
written
on
that
then
I'm
willing
to
review
that
if.
C
I
could
just
close
this
off.
There
was
discussion
as
to
comparing
between
how
the
City
Council
is
afforded
an
increase
in
and
so
to
correct
the
vice
mirror.
We
could
get
one
increase
in
our
last
18
years.
Yeah,
sorry.
F
C
It
was,
it
was
about
50
bucks,
but
it
was,
and
we
you
know
we
are
very.
It
was
a
very
awkward
time
and
it
was
we
didn't
as
much
as
as
much
as
we.
You
know
what
voted
on
it.
It
was
very
awkward
to
you
know
to
to
self
impose
an
increase.
Maybe
that's
something
that
the
subcommittee
can
talk
about
again
is
to
put
the
formula
in
place
and
then
quite
possibly
you
know
have
you
know,
have
it
be?
C
You
know,
have
the
elected
official
you
know
make
the
proposal
I've
heard
from
my
colleagues
to
say
that
you
know
we
have
to
stand.
You
know
with
you
know
with
whatever
the
you
know.
The
bargaining
is
with
our
what
our
employees,
you
know,
get
or
don't
get,
and
so
as
much
as
we're
not
gonna
keep
a
formula.
You
know
with
you
know,
with
those
bargaining
units
I
believe
that
an
increase
is
an
increase,
and
if
you
know
heaven
forbid,
we
get
some
hard
times
again
that
that
they're,
probably
shouldn't
be
an
automatic.