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From YouTube: San Bruno City Council Study Session July 19, 2013
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San Bruno City Council Study Session
July 19, 2013
trt 1:46:05
A
A
C
A
Here
here,
item
number
three
is
conduct
of
business.
If
there's
no
objections,
I
would
like
to
move
item
32
right
after
item
number
four,
which
is
public
comment
on
items
on
the
agenda.
There's
an
individual
city
would
like
to
speak
on
other
items
and
they
have
a
timer.
So
there's
no
objection.
Okay.
A
So
let's
go
right
to
item
number
four,
which
is
public
comment
and
items
not
on
the
agenda.
It
is
the
council's
policy
to
refer
matters
raised
in
this
forum
to
staff
for
investigation
interaction
where
appropriate.
The
Brown
Act
prohibits
the
council
will
discuss
more
active
on
any
matter.
Not
agenda
is
pursuant
to
state
law.
You
can
state
your
name
and
street.
D
Before
we
say,
the
Pledge
of
Allegiance
first
is
I
want
to
thank
the
City
Council
for
all
the
work
you
have
put
in
to
the
grade
separations.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
I!
Don't
get
up
here
very
often,
I.
Remember
you
Jim
and
you
can
walking
down
the
rails
and
it
was
not
this
century.
It
was
another
century
ago
and
I
want
to.
Thank
you
both
for
having
been
there
every
tie
of
the
way
vision.
D
D
The
other
thing
I
have
I
was
I,
went
on
vacation
to
washington
and
I
visited
the
Smithsonian
Air
and
Space
Museum
out
of
Chantilly
Virginia,
that's
the
big
hangar
with
the
discover,
shuttle
and
the
Concorde
etc,
and
they
have
a
jet
that
came
from
an
aircraft
carrier
with
the
tailhook
and
all,
but
I
could
not
find
a
docent
in
the
building.
Who
could
tell
me
where
the
first
plane
to
land
on
a
ship
took
off
from
I
know
that
they
have
their
little
tablets?
D
You
know
to
check
this
out
and
they
could
not
find
it
and
I
think
it
would
be
appropriate
for
the
city
of
San
Bruno
to
get
in
touch
with
Jackie
Speier
and,
let's
see
if
we
can't
get
san
bruno
and
tan
friend
mentioned.
That
happened
only
once,
and
it
happened.
The
guy
took
off
from
cat
fur
and
in
his
Cutlass
land
on
the
boat
out
there
and
it's
a
magnificent
story,
and
nobody
else
can
tell
it
except
Sam.
D
A
You
thank
you.
Anyone
else
like
to
speak
under
public
comment
on
in
the
agenda,
all
right,
we're
going
to
ruby,
remove,
move
right
to
number
three,
which
is
contact,
conduct
of
business
and
just
before
we
do
that.
I
want
to
offer
a
little
explanation
in
the
way
of
a
slight
apology.
The
last
time
we
had
the
meeting
here
we
were
up
against
the
City
Council
meeting
was
actually
ten.
After
seven
we
started,
so
the
public
did
not
get
a
chance
to
comment
on
the
things
that
we
talked
about
that
evening
tonight.
A
You
will
have
plenty
of
time
to
comment
on
anything
you'd
like
to
regarding
these
bylaws
I
just
want
to
let
you
know
that
it
was
not
so
much
an
oversight,
but
we
really
pushed
against
the
time.
So
sorry,
you
couldn't
do
it
before,
but
you'll
have
plenty
of
time
tonight
to
do
it.
Okay,
Alice
mentioned
the
pledge,
and
the
pledge
is
not
on
tonight's
agenda,
so
we'll
be
having
the
pledges.
A
Should
the
item
number
three
conduct
of
business,
discuss
the
proposed
by
laws
for
the
San
Bruno
Community
Foundation,
and
provide
direction
for
preparation
of
the
bylaws
I'd
like
to
give
it
over
to
city
attorney
marks
after
on
Oh,
to
give
us
an
overview
as
to
where
we've
been
where
we
are
and
hopefully
where
he
hopes
to
get
us
tonight.
Well,.
F
Good
evening,
mr.
mayor
members
of
the
City
Council
members
of
the
public,
and
for
anybody
who
might
be
watching
at
home
tonight
is
a
further
discussion
of
the
bylaws
for
the
San
Bruno
Community
Foundation.
This
is
actually
our
third
study
session
about
the
bylaws.
Specifically,
there
were
two
prior
study
sessions
to
discuss
the
overall
formation
of
the
nonprofit
that
was
called
for
by
the
settlement
agreement
between
the
city
and
PG&E.
F
Now,
that
might
seem
like
a
lot
of
meetings
and
it
is,
but
there
are
two
things
that
have
been
become
clear
throughout
this
process,
and
one
of
them
is.
This
is
a
unique
situation
with
not
many
directly
applicable
models,
and
the
second
thing
is:
there's
not
one
right
way
to
do
it,
so
your
staff-
and
we
in
particular,
are
committed
to
getting
it
right
because
it's
important
to
the
community
to
get
it
right
and
we
are
going
to
get
it
right.
F
We're
also
not
asking
for
any
final
decisions
tonight,
just
an
opportunity
for
more
discussion
and
direction
and
we're
intending
to
then
bring
those
bylaws
back
at
a
subsequent
city.
Council
meeting
and
I
also
like
to
reintroduce
a
couple
of
other
people
that
we
have
here
at
the
table.
In
case
you
hadn't
met
them
before
we
have
a
sitting
to
my
right,
Brit
Stratman
she's,
an
attorney
at
the
Meijer
Navi
law
firm,
are
outside
counsel.
F
Who
has
done
a
great
many
wonderful
things
for
the
city,
including
helped
us
with
the
drafting
and
consideration
of
the
bylaws,
and
then
we
have
Mary
Ellen
Lions
from
the
Silicon
Valley
Community
Foundation.
She
has
been
equally
valuable
to
the
city
in
providing
her
expertise
about
nonprofits,
something
that
the
city
doesn't
know
a
lot
about
and
we're
learning
a
great
deal
from
her
and
hope
to
be
able
to
learn
even
more
from
her
this
evening.
F
Let
me
just
make
a
couple
of
brief
comments
about
what
you
have
in
front
of
you
tonight
and
then
we'll
turn
it
back
to
you.
You
have
in
front
of
you,
and
there
is
available
here
in
the
back
in
case
you
haven't,
received
them
a
set
of
draft
by
laws
which
were
revised
from
the
last
meeting
and
there's
really
sort
of
two
interrelated
issues
that
we'd
like
to
focus
on
tonight.
The
first
one
is
the
overall
composition
of
the
board,
not
who
individually
will
be
on
the
board,
but
sort
of.
F
What's
the
board
makeup
going
to
look
like
and
then
second
of
all,
the
related
issue
to
that
is
the
powers
that
are
going
to
be
or
could
be
reserved
to
the
City
Council,
all
of
you
after
the
board
is
formed
and
after
appointments
have
been
made,
so
just
to
start
with
the
first
one,
the
composition
of
the
board,
just
to
make
it
clear
for
everybody.
There
is
no
legal
reason
why
all
five
council
members,
for
example,
couldn't
sit
on
the
board
of
directors.
F
There
is
no
legal
requirement,
conversely,
that
anybody
that's
on
the
City
Council
sit
on
the
board
of
directors.
That
is
entirely
within
your
discretion,
as
the
bylaws
were
are
currently
written
and,
as
we
discussed
last
time,
based
on
the
last
meeting,
we
have
it
set
up
so
that
there
are
two
council
members
out
of
the
five
of
you
on
the
board
with
the
the
council.
Appointing
the
remaining
individuals-
and
you
might
remember
the
discussion
at
the
time
was
a
bit
of
a
compromise
with
a
minimum
of
five
total
and
a
maximum
of
eleven
total.
F
So
if
you
had
to
City
Council
members
on
the
board,
you
would
end
up
appointing
anywhere
between
three
and
nine
board
members
during
your
process.
So
I
just
want
to
briefly
explain
what
were
some
of
the
reasons
why
we
recommended
those
things,
and
there
were
just
a
couple.
First
of
all,
we
heard
from
Mary
Ellen,
based
on
her
experience,
that
five
is
probably
too
few
members
for
a
board,
given
their
anticipated
committee
assignments
and
the
range
of
workload
that
the
board
would
be
expected
to
perform,
and
we
can.
F
We
can
hear
a
little
bit
more
about
that
tonight,
but
that
was
one
of
the
reasons
why
I
think
the
council
had
decided
on
a
range
to
give
themselves
some
flexibility
to
determine
how
many
board
members
do
we
need
based
on
the
workload.
The
second
thing
we
heard
was
that
it
was
desirable
to
have
some
professional
expertise
on
the
board
beyond
the
experience
and
expertise
that
council
members
bring
especially
financial,
legal
philanthropic
and
audit
on
the
board.
F
Another
reason
why
we
ended
up
with
with
what
we
did
in
the
draft
bylaws
is
that
two
council
members
tends
to
minimize
entanglements
regarding
the
Brown,
Act
and
conflicts
of
interest.
When
you
have
a
majority
of
council
members
on
the
board,
it
just
makes
it
a
little
bit
more
complicated,
not
impossibly
so,
but
there
are
some
other
considerations
that
we
have
to
think
about
and
then
finally,
for
a
community
foundation
with
this
level
of
resources,
the
advice
we
received
was
it
would
be
important
to
obtain
additional
direct
community
representation
on
the
board.
F
So
that's
why
the
staffs
recommendation
is
is
in
front
of
you
and
based
on
what
you
told
us
last
time
was
in
the
bylaws.
So
that's
the
composition
of
the
board,
the
next
topic
and
the
interrelated
one
is
what
powers,
if
any,
should
the
City
Council
reserve
to
itself
and
just
to
recap
what
that
means
is
that
the
Board
of
Directors
is
ultimately
responsible
for
making
the
decisions
of
the
corporation,
but
under
state
law
the
forming
authority.
That's
you
can
reserve
some
powers
to
approve
certain
major
activities
of
the
board.
F
So,
for
example,
we
have
a
list
of
reserved
powers
at
the
back
of
the
bylaws.
That
you'll
see
that
in
essence
says
the
city
council
gets
to
approve
most
of
the
major
decisions
of
the
board.
Well,
why
did
why
did
we
recommend
that?
Well,
there's
no
legal
requirement
that
there
be
any
reserve
powers,
nor
is
there
any
legal
requirement
to
have
any
particular
reserved
powers.
So
again,
these
are
all
within
your
discretion,
but
what
were
some
of
the?
What
was
the
thinking
behind
putting
those
particular
ones
in
there?
F
Well,
first
of
all,
and
most
importantly,
there,
it's
a
recognition
that
the
settlement
was
negotiated
by
the
city
at
the
direction
of
the
City
Council
for
damages
that
the
city
suffered
as
a
whole.
So
we
felt
it
was
important
to
recommend
that
the
city
retain
a
significant
number
of
powers
that
is
somewhat
broader
than
powers
retained
by
most
other
nonprofits.
So
that's
one
reason
why
that
was
in
there.
A
second
reason
is
to
preserve
the
accountability
of
the
board
to
the
City
Council
for
all
of
its
major
decisions.
F
The
third
reason
is
to
create
a
mechanism
that
would
encourage
the
board
and
the
City
Council
to
cooperate
and
work
together
on
these
major
things.
The
board,
knowing
that
the
City
Council
is
going
to
have
to
approve,
is
going
to
have
an
interest
in
an
incentive
to
make
sure
that
those
things
get
get
approved
and
and
not
that
they
get
rejected,
and
then
the
third
excuse
me.
The
fourth
thing
was
to
provide
enough
board
autonomy
so
that
the
board
can
execute
its
independent
judgment.
F
That's
consistent
with
corporations
code
because
remember
the
board
is
the
the
entity
that
ultimately
has
to
run
the
corporation.
So
those
are
some
of
the
reasons
why
the
staff
drafted
the
bylaws
as
they
were
in
the
direction
based
on
what
we
got
from
you
at
the
last
meeting
and
those
items
are
all
open
for
discussion
tonight.
We're
happy
to
hear
that
discussion
to
answer
any
questions
that
we
can.
We
have
Mary,
Ellen
and
Britt
here
to
help
us
out
with
that.
Take
some
input
from
the
public
and
then
have
you
give
us
some
additional
directions.
F
A
Have
a
question
so
let's
just
say
that
that
the
council
tonight
says
we
want
11
members
up
to
11
members
and
two
members
and
from
the
City
Council
on
the
board
when
those
City
Council
members
step
away
from
the
City
Council
and
become
board
members,
do
they
have
any
additional
input,
any
additional
powers
any
additional
over
over
and
above
any
other
board
member?
Are
they
just
a
board
member
that
just
happens
to
be
in
the
City
Council?
That's.
F
A
They
wouldn't
necessarily
be
board
members
that
would
would
come
back
and
report
to
the
council
as
a
whole,
maybe
board
members
to
actually
work
on
the
not-for-profit
corporation.
In
other
words,
they
would
just
happen
to
be
members
of
the
City
Council.
So
whether
you
wanted
two
three
four
or
five,
they
would
still
only
be
board
members.
They
wouldn't
have
any
additional
influence,
any
additional
voting
powers
or
anything
different
than
any
of
the
board
members
right.
F
They
would
they
would
have
the
same
boat
as
any
other
board
member.
It
would
be
it's
somewhat
different.
For
example,
then
a
structure
you're
familiar
with,
which
is
the
subcommittee
structure
where
you
were
to
have
two
members.
Let's
say
of
the
city
council
form
a
subcommittee
go
out
and
get
some
information
and
bring
it
back
to
the
City
Council.
That's
not.
The
structure
that's
proposed
what's
proposed
here,
is
simply
that
there
would
be
two
or
more
or
fewer
members
of
the
City
Council
on
the
board.
G
H
Grey
and
hoping
to
come
back
to
Fairmont,
Drive,
okay
on
or
about
January
23rd.
When
you
had
your
first
meeting,
one
of
the
questions
that
came
up,
one
of
the
members
of
our
community
said
the
San
Bruno
community
foundation
doesn't
mention
anything
about
where
the
funds
came
from
and
the
reason
that
the
city
got
the
funds,
and
it
was
suggested
at
that
time
that
something
be
put
into
writing
somewhere,
that
that
money
came
because
38
homes
were
destroyed,
eight
people
lost
their
lives,
etc.
H
Not
in
that
way,
and
at
that
time,
mr
ybarra
councilman
Herrera
said
yes,
he
thought
that
we
could
include
on
all
correspondence
and
information
that
went
out
a
sentence
statement
that
said
that
this
money
for
this
foundation
was
a
result
of
the
events
that
happened
in
September
and
put
whatever
way
you
wanted
to,
but
that
there
was
mention
of
why
this
foundation
came
about.
Ok,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
I
My
name
is
Doug
Coons
I'm
live
on
Claire
onedrive,
how
the
question
is
regarding
the
approval
of
the
spending
policy
I'm
a
little
unclear
exactly
what
that
means
is
this.
This
could
be
interpreted
to
mean
that
the
wear
nothing
more,
that
board
becomes
nothing
more
than
an
advisory
committee
for
the
City
Council,
rather
than
a
board,
that's
able
to
act
in
and
on
upon
itself,
so
I'm
Kirsti.
I
J
Good
evening
I'm
John
McLaughlin
we
live
on
Claremont
and
I
want
to
speak
to
two
issues:
one
the
composition
of
the
board
and
the
numbers
I
and
I.
Having
been
on
the
school
board
and
a
member
of
a
five-person
board.
I
understand.
You
know
why
you're
wrestling
with
the
numbers
and
because
I
did
the
same
thing.
When
I
started
working
with
nonprofits
and
I
found
out,
it
was
very
common
to
have
up
to
a
dozen
people
on
the
board.
Nice
kept
thinking
with
the
school
board.
J
We'd
never
have
gotten
anything
done,
but
it's
a
different
environment
and
one
thing
I've
learned
from
the
boards
I've
worked
with
and
I
worked
with.
One
is
I,
was
actually
managing
the
nonprofit
and
I
worked
with
another
one.
Currently
as
a
consultant.
They
use
the
vacant
or
the
positions
on
the
board.
They
may
be
authorized
12
by
their
bylaws.
J
They
may
only
fill
10
or
9
and
then,
if
something
comes
up
like
they,
the
one
I
managed
wanted
to
get
into
a
new
field
of
psychoanalytic
education
and
they
want
to
bring
a
subject
matter
expert
in
and
involve
them
in
the
organization
so
that
they
would
get
the
the
benefit
of
that
and
they
used
it
for
that,
and
they
also
used
it
for
the
treasurer
position
at
one
time
because
they
wanted
somebody
that
would
have
had
financial
expertise.
So
the
nonprofit
I
consult
with
really
felt
they
needed
to
you
more
in
the
marketing
area.
J
So
they
went
out
and
got
a
board
member
that
had
a
marketing
background
that
was
willing
to
serve
on
the
board
and
invest
the
time
and
share
their
advice
with
them.
So
you
can
make
use
of
that
and
and
probably
and
should
and
the
other
thing
you
can
do
and
I'll
defer
to
counsel,
because
he's
got
to
tell
you
what's
legal
and
right,
but
you
can
have
ex
officio
members
on
the
board.
J
You
know,
just
as
with
the
school
board,
the
superintendent
was
the
clerk
of
the
board,
a
non-voting
member,
but
the
actual
member
of
the
board.
So
you
can
do
that
sort
of
thing.
So
those
are
all
things.
I
think
that
you
should
consider-
and
it
is.
It
is
kind
of
a
leap
of
faith
to
go
from
a
five-person
board
that
makes
decisions
to
a
board.
That
is
all
inclusive
and
has
a
lot
of
perspectives.
But
I
guess
the
thing
is
they
work?
J
H
H
H
You
know
ideas
for
so
I
think
it's
really
important
that
if
there
are
going
to
be
people
giving
up
their
time
volunteering
on
this
committee
that
they
actually
feel
they
can
make
an
impact,
because,
if
they're
feeling
like
they're
just
there
as
going
through
the
motions
so
that
the
City
Council
can
veto
or
approve
whatever
they're
going
to
do
then
they're
not
who
would
want
to
be
putting
their
time
into
that
and
just
getting
frustrated
I
mean
I.
Think
people
should
feel
that
they
can
make
an
impact.
H
Would
it
be
something
that
they
would
have
to
report
to
the
council
before
an
actual
agreement
is
made,
and
also
if
there
are
volunteers
from
our
community
that
was
impacted
by
the
explosion?
What
is
people
be
working
with
the
board
and
also
a
definite
commitment
that
their
input
is
valid
and
worthwhile
for
the
people
to
spend
the
time
and
effort
in
trying
to
give
our
sincere
input
to
the
community?
D
Alice
Barnes
Fifth
Avenue
I,
submitted
four
pages
of
comments
earlier
today.
Apologize
for
the
lateness
of
it
and
I.
I
understand
that
before
you
get
your
final
draft,
you
will
get
an
opportunity
to
read
those
and
consider
some
of
my
suggestions,
but
at
the
city
manager's
suggestion
I'd
like
to
raise
two
issues.
The
first
one
is
the
fact
that
you
will
have
between
5
and
11
authorized
members,
and
I
see
a
problem
with
that.
D
I
envision
a
situation
where
you
will
have
just
three
directors
there,
because
that's
kind
of
like
a
quorum
of
five
and
we're
not
going
to
discuss
authorized
here.
So
we
now
have
three
directors
present
and
to
gang
up
on
the
third
one
I
I
were.
I
want
to
call
them
rambo
directors
and
I.
In
my
comments.
D
I
mentioned
that
several
times
that
it
could
cause
a
whole
lot
of
problems
and
if
two
of
these
three
directors
are
raising
holy,
you
know
what
and
you
folks,
we
really
don't
have
that
much
authority
over
what
these
two
people
are
doing.
Even
if
they're,
three
of
you,
a
majority
of
the
council,
I,
think
you
have
to
review
the
quorum
and
I
think
you
have
to
get
away
from
the
range
5
to
11.
Frankly,
I
think
there
are
at
least
11
or
nine
other
intelligent
people
who
could
join
two
of
you
on
on
that
board.
D
I
also
would
recommend
that
you
start
out
with
varying
lengths
of
term
otherwise
in
the
year
2017
we're
going
to
have
all
new
members
or
all
of
them
are
going
to
be
reappointed
or
whatever
I
think
that
when
you
start
out,
some
should
be
a
two
years
that
sucks
should
be
at
four
years.
Likewise,
if
the
two
council
members
are
appointed,
I
would
suggest
that
you
come
from
different
election
years
so
that
in
November
of
this
year
those
two
people
don't
get
knocked
off
and
you
got
to
start
all
over
with
two
new
ones.
D
D
Did
the
greens
for
you
folks
so
I
have
a
problem
with
the
officers.
We
shall
not
have
a
council
on
advising
this
board
of
directors
because
there
isn't
an
interested
here.
I
trust
the
two
council
members
really
a
lot.
You
can
handle
the
legal
questions.
We
don't
need
counsel,
but
you
know
that
you're
going
to
want
one
but
ten
items.
I
think
I
have
complete
trust
in
this
council
and
I'm,
saying
that
out
loud
publicly
that
you
will
appoint
the
right
people
to
serve
as
directors
on
this
board.
D
For
example,
if
you
look
at
article
16
reserve
powers,
item
Charlie,
subpart
Charlie
approval
of
the
corporation's
annual
budget,
please
by
all
means
approve
it,
but
what
happens?
If
you
don't
it?
Maybe
somebody
could
provide
an
answer
to
that.
But
what
happens?
If
the
council
does
not
approve
the
budget,
then
it
says
approval
or
amendment
of
the
Corporations
grant
policies.
I
think
you've
met
approval
and
I'm
not
getting
it
tonight.
I'm.
D
D
I,
don't
think
you
have
any
business
in
that
business.
You
guys
work
hard
enough
running
the
city,
etc.
Setting
policy
you
don't
need
to
approve
who
the
officers
are,
that
your
appointed
board
selects
I
trust
them
also
and
with
that
I
hope
that
you
will
take
a
gander
at
those
other
pages
Thank
you
Thank
You.
Anyone
else.
K
Castleman
I
live
on
poplar
avenue
and
first
of
all,
I'd
like
to
say
what
a
wonderful
opportunity
this
is
for
the
city
of
San
Bruno,
been
aware
of
philanthropic
activities
and
to
have
this
potential
vehicle
to
do
things
in
our
community.
I
think
is
wonderful.
A
couple
of
comments.
1
is
with
reserved
powers
that
the
council
holds
Latin
last
meeting.
It
wasn't
clear
somebody
a
specific
question.
K
My
assumption
is
the
council
other
than
the
two
committee
members,
two
council
members
that
will
be
on
the
on
the
deciding
board
will
not
have
any
authority
in
terms
of
grand
making
to
make
sure
that
was
that
I
understand
that
correctly
and
that's
clear
because
it
didn't
seem
clear
at
the
last
meeting
and
the
other
thing
which
I
wanted
to
mention,
which
I
think
is
really
good.
As
I
noticed
in
the
in
the
rewrite
of
the
bylaws
hit
was
raised
the
question
about
whether
the
foundation
was
going
to
be
an
endowment.
K
In
most
cases,
the
foundations
are
set
up
and
there's
a
certain
percentage
of
the
of
the
assets
or
the
interest.
That's
clarified
in
advance
as
to
what
the
grant-making
amount
will
be.
In
this
case,
it
did
not
seem
clear,
and
it's
really
good,
that
you
caught
that
and
I'm
not
sure
how
you're
going
to
deal
with
it.
K
It
appeared
from
what
I
quickly
read
here
is,
though,
the
council
would
have
the
authority
every
year
to
determine
what
the
grant-making
amount
would
be
and
I
just
read
that
as
an
issue
be
good
to
clarify
that
as
much
as
much
as
possible,
it
could
be
a
difficult
point
to
deal
with
on
an
annual
basis.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
A
F
Well
that
it's
true
that
the
Articles
of
Incorporation
that
were
filed
doesn't
specify
what
the
source
of
the
funds
were.
It
would
be
unusual
for
articles
of
incorporation
to
say
that
I
would
note
that
the
settlement
agreement,
which
specifies
that
the
funds
must
be
transferred
to
a
non-profit,
is
a
public
record.
It's
posted
on
the
website
and
I.
Don't
think
I'm,
not
aware
of
any
confusion
that
exists
as
to
what
the
purpose
of
the
funds
were
and
why
the
city
has
a
70
million
dollars.
I.
A
Wouldn't
think
it
would
be
too
difficult
to
incorporate
a
very
small
paragraph
as
as
on
something
whether
it
be
the
Foundation's
letterhead
or
something
to
just.
You
know
remind
people
and
keep
in
perpetuity
as
to
how
this
how
these
funds
came
about,
and
it
doesn't
have
to
be
very
lengthy,
but
it
should
be,
it
should
be.
You
know,
mindful
of
what
happened
and
and
what
we're
using
these
funds
for
going
forward.
So
I
think
it's
a
good
idea.
Okay,
hey.
E
Don't
recall
making
a
comment,
but
I
think
it
just
totally
makes
sense.
I've
reviewed
other
foundations
seen
their
web
sites
reviewed
annual
reports
and
every
single
one
of
them
seems
to
describe
their
their
beginnings.
There
starts,
and
you
know
their
purpose
and
so
I
think
we
never.
We
never
should
forget
where
this
came
from
and
I
think
it's
doesn't
need.
L
A
A
Then
mr.
Koontz
had
some
questions
regarding
approval
of
funds
by
sand
control
and
let
me
just
say
one
thing:
interject
here:
don't
don't
forget
the
these
funds
are
for
the
community
of
san
bruno
and
they
will
be
used
in
the
community
of
san
bruno,
so,
whereas
a
lot
of
other
nonprofits
not
for
profits
can
be
used
in
varying
ways
throughout
different
communities
with
the
central
location.
This
is
a
one-off.
This
is
a
very
special
unique.
I
think.
A
F
The
City
Council
sets
overall
policy
for
the
city
once
the
board
of
directors
is,
is
appointed
that
they
would
set
the
overall
policy
for
the
corporation
for
the
nonprofit,
but
the
City
Council
has
the
authority
to
review
those
policy
directions
and
all
of
those
major
policy
decisions
that
the
board
sets
to
make
sure
they're
consistent
with
the
needs
of
the
community.
So
when
in
answering
some
of
these
questions,
what
we'll
find
is
that
the
reserved
powers
aren't
powers
to
say
well,
this
organization
gets,
you
know
a
hundred
dollars
in
this
one
gets
a
thousand.
F
Those
are
not
reserved
powers
that
are
contemplated
in
the
agreement.
What'swhat's
reserved
is
the
power
to
look
at
the
overall
policies,
yes,
on
a
yearly
basis
to
determine
and
make
sure
that
the
Board
of
Directors
is
fulfilling
the
goals
of
the
city
and
the
City
Council
in
its
overall
policies.
So
they're
reviewing
the
board's
policy
in
much
the
same
way
as
they're
setting
policy
for
the
city.
So
that's
that's
the
answer
to
the
spending
policy.
The
Board
of
Directors
is
not
simply
an
advisory
arm
of
the
of
the
City
Council
under
this
construct.
A
F
And
so
right
now
the
executive
director
is
listed
as
an
ex-officio
member
of
the
board.
It's
within
your
discretion,
if
you'd
like
to
have
other
ex
officio
members
of
the
board,
there
there's
no
legal
reason
why
why
you
couldn't
why
you
couldn't
do
that
I
think
he
also
one
of
either
mr.
or
mrs.
mcLaughlin.
Sorry,
I
can't
remember,
had
had
a
question
about
why,
whether
members,
let's
say
there
were
two
on
the
board,
could
the
other
three
members
of
the
City
Council
share
their
opinions
with
those
two
board
members?
A
F
That's
this
number
of
the
public
right,
so
there's
no
prohibition
on
conversations
or
constituents
or
members
of
the
public
talking
to
board
members.
When
you
get
more
than
a
majority
of
board
members
in
one
place
at
the
same
time,
that's
quorum
and
we'll
get
to
to
ms
Barneses
issue
in
just
a
second
but
that's
a
quorum
and
therefore
a
meeting
and
therefore
would
have
to
be
agendized.
So
if
you
suddenly
ran
into
six
members
of
an
11-member
board
of
directors
of
lunardi's,
the
best
best
best.
F
You
said:
that's
right.
The
rest
of
them
go
to
mollie
stones,
so
right,
so
that
that's
the
answer
to
the
to
the
Brown
Act
question,
and
there
was
some
confusion:
I
apologize
if
I
created
it
that
more
than
two
members
on
the
of
the
City
Council
would
create
a
brown
act.
Question
for
the
board:
it's
not
that
it's
prohibited!
It's
that
it
would.
F
It
just
raises
some
additional
complications
and,
and
what
we
heard
from
our
advisors
was
those
are
complications
that
are
most
easily
avoided
by
not
having
a
quorum
of
the
City
Council
on
the
board.
But
it
is
within
your
discretion
to
decide
if
you
do
want
to
have
a
forum
or
all
of
the
board
members
be
city,
council
members
and
then
we'll
have
to
figure
out
how
to
make
that
work.
For
you.
A
Ok
and
then
did
you
just
answer
the
brown
that
question
for
I
hope
so,
ok
and
then
let
me
see
rebar
had
a
question
regarding
control
san
bruno.
Only
that
kind
of
kind
of
thing
make
when
I
think
I
I
said
something
about
that.
A
while
ago
about
the
control
rests
with
the
board
and
it
stays
within
the
city
of
San
Bruno.
It
doesn't
go
anywhere
else
right
and.
F
I
think
one
individual,
maybe
it
was
mrs.
McLaughlin
indicated
the
board.
Members
need
to
feel
as
if
they
want
to
have
an
impact,
and
that's
absolutely
right.
Of
course.
We
understand
that
and
we
think
that
the
structure
that's
proposed
and
in
fact
really
any
structure
you
would
propose-
would
allow
for
that,
because
those
board
members
are
going
to
be
making
myriad
individual
decisions
on
a
daily
monthly
and
yearly
basis
that
are
going
to
directly
affect
the
programs
and
facilities
and
activities
that
they're
that
their
funding.
A
F
F
Ya
know
those
were
those
were
good.
There
was
an
earlier
question
about
the
the
use
of
volunteers
who
were
affected
by
the
explosion.
I
wanted
to
be
sure
we
addressed
that
the
bylaws
do
allow
the
board
to
appoint
advisory
committees
of
really
any
kind.
I
think
there
was
discussion
at
one
of
the
very
early
meetings
that
that
was
the
interest
of
the
City
Council
to
make
sure
that
there
was
a
broad
perspective
on
multiple
advisory
committees
about
all
kinds
of
different
issues
from
the
community.
F
That's
certainly
not
prohibited
by
the
by
the
bylaws
and
something
that
I
think
the
board
staff
would
be
encouraging
the
board
to
do
on
ms
Barnes's
comments.
Yes,
thank
you
for,
for
those
four
pages,
I
got
through
a
page
and
a
half
of
them.
There
are
some
very
good
comments
in
there,
so
we'll
be
sure
to
review
all
of
them.
I
think
you
caught
some
some
little
inartful
drafting
if
I
want
to
put
it
that
way,
just
to
respond
to
a
couple
of
things
on
the
quorum,
which
is
one
of
your
your
main
issues.
F
If
it's
unclear
will
will
check
with
with
Britt,
and
maybe
we
can
re
revise
that
to
make
sure
it's
clear
that
you
don't
have
a
quorum
that
exceeds
the
number
of
board
members.
So
that's
what
we'll
want
to
make
sure
to
take
a
look
at
that
I
think
miss
Barnes,
a
sub
had
some
good
points
about
a
staggered
two
and
four-year
terms.
I
did
put
that
in
my
comments.
It
wasn't
in
the
bylaws
because
the
City
Council's
the
appointing
Authority.
F
So
you
get
a
point
how
many
ever
council
members
you
want
to
the
board
to
initial
two-year
and
four-year
terms
interesting
suggestion
about
not
having
those
people
be
in
the
same
election
year,
so
that
was
that
was
interesting
and
then
finally,
she
talks
a
little
bit
about
the
the
reserved
powers.
What
if
the
city
council
doesn't
approve
the
budget,
and
the
answer
to
that
would
be-
would
go
back
to
the
board
for
further
review.
F
It's
not
proposed
in
the
bylaws
that
there
be
a
defined
endowment
for
the
reasons
stated
in
the
comments
that
it
restricts,
both
the
City
Council
and
the
board,
but
that
indeed
the
decision
on
spending
not
on
individual
programs
but
on
broad
policy
goals
and
objectives
would
come
back
to
the
City
Council
on
a
yearly
basis.
I.
F
And
again,
that's
a
that
would
be
a
policy
issue
that
goes
to
the
board,
not
individual
grants
for
this,
or
that
and
Mary
Ellen
can
explain
that
in
general
what
happens
is
there's.
A
grant-making
committee
of
the
board
of
directors
that
would
actually
enter
into
an
RFP
process
would
send
out
applications
to
individuals
who
were
seeking
grants.
Those
would
be
vetted
by
a
committee
of
the
board.
Decisions
would
be
made,
they
would
be
scored
and
then
the
board
itself
would
approve
those
those
decisions.
F
A
K
Just
the
clarify
further
in
terms
of
70
million
dollars
is
a
lot
of
money,
but
depending
upon
how
much
the
annual
grant
making
will
be
it's
going
to
have
a
huge
impact
on
what
the
foundation
can
accomplish
and
how
much
leverage
it
may
have
in
the
community.
So
I'm
just
curious.
If
you
can
say
any
more
about,
is
that
an
annual
decision
will
be
based
on
a
B
and
C.
Will
it
change
every
year?
Things
like
that
right.
F
D
How
could
you
clarify
please
on
the
portion
about
the
directors,
have
to
be
a
resident
of
San,
Bruno
or
etc,
etc?
But
then
you
added
a
statement
and
I'm
afraid,
to
paraphrase
it,
that
the
money
will
be
force
and
brunettes,
but
you're
not
excluding
expenditures
of
these
funds
outside
of
San
Bruno,
which
benefits
and
burners
right,
in
other
words,
for
instance,
for
instance,
if
we
would
like
to
get
a
piece
of
fire
apparatus
for
the
fire
department
and
it's
a
great
idea
to
have
this
coffee
truck
for
the
fire
department.
D
A
First
of
all,
the
the
agreement-
the
restitution
agreement
specifically
prohibits
us
from
using
the
funds
for
any
type
of
general
fund
purpose
at
all,
so
it
can't
go
to
any
salaries.
It
can't
go
to
anything
like
that.
Fire
police
salaries,
those
types
of
things
they
have
to
be
run
themselves,
the
way
they're
being
run
now
so
I.
Think
it's
pretty
obvious
that
if
we,
if
we
wanted
to
do
a
five
thousand,
you
know
foot
addition
to
the
Senior
Center
we
want
would
want
to
get
the
best
price.
That
I
in
my
mind,
I'm.
A
F
I
think
that's
right.
The
bylaws
don't
require
all
of
the
dollars
to
be
physically
spent
in
the
city
of
San
Bruno.
They
simply
require
that
the
funds
be
used
to
benefit
the
San
Bruno
community,
and
that
could
be
done
in
a
number
of
different
ways.
You
could
certainly
have
an
organization
based
in
millbrae
that
one
of
its
purposes
might
be
to
benefit
individuals
in
san
bruno,
for
example,
there
is
no
prohibition
and
the
bylaws
that
says
that
you
that
the
board
couldn't
make
a
contribution
to
that
organization.
I
think.
A
I
You
mentioned
that
are
prohibited
from
spending
the
money
in
terms
of
employee,
salary
and
so
forth.
Now
suppose
the
board
wanted
to
contract
with
the
city
to
provide
secretarial
services
or
some
such
thing
would
that
be
a
prohibited
actor?
Would
that
be
possible
rather
than
as
opposed
to
hiring
their
own
staff
or
whatever,
which
probably
wouldn't
make
a
lot
of
sense?
He
just
contract
with
maybe
the
city
or
some
other
organization,
was
added
yeah,
good
question
allowable
activity,
yeah.
I
F
Of
course,
the
the
intent
of
the
settlement
agreement
was
that
the
city
should
not
spend
the
funds
on
salaries
to
conduct
its
operations,
not
operations
of
the
nonprofit
by
contract.
So
the
nonprofit
certainly
has
the
ability
to
either
hire
its
own
staff
to
hire
consultants
or
to
contract
with
the
city
to
use
a
portion
of
city
staff
to
perform
some
of
its
services
at
a
cost
to
the
nonprofit.
Okay,.
I
M
M
Can
we
create
matching
grants
because
we're
a
non-profit
can
we
apply
for
matching
grants
from
federal
and
state
to
make
the
money
go
further,
so
we
can
take
care
of
I,
can
think
of
for
buildings
in
san
bruno
that
need
major
surgery,
recreation
center,
swimming
pool
library,
fire
station
on
el
camino.
Okay,
I
moved
here
in
55.
There
were
fourteen
thousand
people
here
there
are
now
over
40,000
started
out
with
Fords
and
Chevy's
ended
up
with
BMWs
and
Mercedes
we're
growing
we're
getting
a
whole
different
mindset
in
san
bruno,
younger
people,
but
notice
here
tonight.
M
No
prohibition
from
San
Bruno
Community
Foundation,
applying
for
grants
from
other
funders
or
from
the
government.
However,
there
will
be
some
prerequisite
items
at
the
city
that
the
San
Bruno
Community
Foundation
will
have
to
complete,
for
example,
its
first
990,
it's
IRS
filing
and
its
first
audit,
as
those
are
mostly
required
to
apply
for
those
sorts
of
grants.
Okay,.
F
And
to
just
further
follow-up
on
that
I
think
they're
it
one
of
the
very
first
meetings
you
had.
We
asked
a
question:
do
you
want
to
authorize
or
prohibit
the
foundation
from
doing
its
own
fundraising
and
the
answer
was
you
didn't
want
to
prohibit
that
activity?
So
that's
certainly
an
activity
that
you
can
perform
and
then
finally
there's
another
and
may
be
other
opportunities
to
maximize
or
leverage
the
funds
available
by
if
the
funds
are
desired
to
be
used
for
construction
of
community
facilities.
B
Mural
and
cite
code
is
from
Concord
way
and
I
was
just
a
little
curious
at
the
beginning.
When
we
first
started
with
this
project,
it
was
described
as
a
not-for-profit
as
opposed
to
a
non-profit,
and
there
were
some
differences,
particularly
where
it
related
to
the
real
estate,
what
the
city-owned,
with
the
Lots
that
were
vacant
and
what
was
owned
by
the
pge.
What
has
happened
with
that?
B
F
B
A
So
if
there's
really
no
difference,
that's
number
one
number
two.
Maybe
you
could
explain
briefly
about
the
Lots.
We
went
through
that
long
process
with
pge
the
city
owning
a
certain
amount
of
lotsa
pge
on
some
other
lots
and
what
happens
with
the
Lots
that
were
included
in
the
70
million
dollars,
which
is
really
68
million.
Seven
hundred
fifty
thousand
dollars.
M
Sure
so
part
of
the
settlement
was
the
transfer
of
five
lots
in
the
crest
for
neighborhood
and
those
Lots
are
that
what
had
previously
been
purchased
by
pge
from
their
original
owners?
Those
Lots
have
been
transferred
to
the
city
and
the
current
status
is
a
city
council
decision
to
proceed
with
soliciting
development
interest
for
the
joint
development
of
those
Lots
or
the
three
of
those
Lots
that
the
city
anticipates
having
no
beneficial
public
use
in
the
future,
along
with
seven
lots
that
are
currently
and
still
owned
by
PG&E
or
rather
I.
M
Think
it's
six
slots
with
one
pinning
in
escrow
for
a
total
of
ten
lots
that
we
are
currently
soliciting
developer
interest
and
we'll
be
evaluating
responses
to
an
RFP
and
bringing
back
to
the
City
Council
the
opportunity
to
consider
a
ward
of
or
develop
the
into
the
establishment
of
a
development
agreement
by
which
a
private
developer
would
take
ownership
of
the
lots
and
would
develop
them
according
to
the
city's
standards.
So
that
is
currently
the
case.
M
It
is
anticipated,
as
I
indicated,
that
the
lots
at
least
three
of
the
lots
that
are
currently
owned
by
the
city
would
be
transferred
on
a
for
sale
basis
to
a
developer,
along
with
the
lots
that
are
currently
owned
by
PG&E,
and
so
the
value,
the
that
the
be
a
future
decision
to
replace
the
amount
of
the
value
of
the
settlement
that
was
taken
in
lots
could
be
returned
to
the
to
the
value
of
the
fund.
Once
those
Lots
have
been
sold
to
a
developer.
M
But
lots
within
the
neighborhood.
There
are
currently
six
slots.
Last
information
I
have
they're,
currently
six
lots
owned
by
pge
in
the
neighborhood.
They
are
unrelated
to
the
settlement
they
were
purchased
additionally
by
pge
after
the
settlement
was
entered
and
there's
one
in
escrow.
So
we
believe
that
there
will
be
a
total
of
seven
that
ultimately,
the
city
in
a
agreement,
relationship
with
pge
will
take
responsibility
for
seeing
to
it
that
those
are
developed.
H
Wanted
to
ask
about
those
slots,
whether
they're
owned
by
PG&E
or
the
city
of
San
Bruno.
Are
they
considering
the
fact
that
all
these
new
houses
that
are
almost
finished
people
are
moving
in,
but
then
there's
a
vacant
spot
in
the
middle
of
all
these
brand-new
houses?
And
we
have
had
a
lot
of
dirt
and
construction
and
noise
and
everything?
And
is
there
any
consideration
given
to
trying
to
get
these
things
done
in
a
way
where
maybe
the
whole
construction
can
be
done
in
the
community
at
a
reasonable
time?
A
Part
of
the
reason
we
decided
to
go
with
and
combined
with
PG&E
as
an
art
with
an
RFP
or
request
for
proposal,
was
in
fact
to
get
them
all
done
at
the
same
time.
So
we
wouldn't
have
five
people
saying
I
want
to
do
them
right
now
and
two
more
say:
I'm
just
going
to
wait
a
while
and
then
the
neighborhood
is
dealing
with
construction.
I'm.
H
A
A
A
E
E
Unfortunately,
not
only
are
you
experienced,
but
you
also
our
victims
and
I
know.
I
know
how
serious
and
this
is
you
know
the
progress
on
this
I
I
am
very
uncomfortable
until
I
see
the
makeup
of
this
board
and
to
see
what
direction
this
board
that,
when
everything
gets
put
on
it,
you
know-
or
mostly
everything
gets
put
on
the
table.
E
Like
your
relative
said,
like
mrs.
Lee,
like
mrs.,
remain
said,
it's
70
million
dollars
is
not
doesn't
mean
much,
it
is
means
a
lot
but
I
think
initially
the
attitude
and
the
community
was
I
want
this
million.
I
want
this
million
everything
before
you
know
it
once
everyone
grabs
their
million.
There's
pocket
change
on
the
the
table.
I
really
see
it
as
our
new
redevelopment
I
see
it
as
our
nest
egg
that
we
will
save
some
use
some
and
also
invest
and
use
it
quite
possibly
as
debt
service.
E
E
We
have
to
do
something
with
you
know
this
community
and
with
what
those
facilities
plus
there's
other
things
that
you
know
that
may
not
we
night
may
not
have
any
idea
of
what
they
are
right
now.
We
should
be
able
to
use
this
money
leverage
this
money,
you
know
for
generations,
and
so
I
I
would
just
like
to
I'll
feel
a
lot
more
comfortable
when
I
see
experienced
people
whether
they're,
gray,
hairs
or
not.
E
You
know
sitting
on
this
board
and
making
very,
very
prudent,
intelligent
long-range
suggestions
as
to
what,
with
what
this
foundation
does
then
I'll
feel
very
comfortable.
You
know
giving
you
know
those
powers
were
limiting
those
powers
of
the
council,
because
I
mean
it's.
Like
the
lady
said
it's
it's
the
whole
list
and
I'm
sure
we
can.
You
know
pare
it
down
as
an
Allen
I'm
feeling
better
now,
because
I'm
hearing
the
potential
potential
suitors
of
this
of
this
muddy
and
I
think
it's
starting
to
get
exciting.
A
E
E
I,
don't
think
it
should
be
five
I
think
forget
about
five
I
think
we
should
I
think.
Eventually
we
can
get
27
I,
don't
think
I.
I
think
this
early
stage
with
people
coming
from
so
many
directions
and
so
many
requests
you
may
need
11.
You
know
11
people
to
you
know
to
weed
through
the
stuff
in
this
information
and
get
get
organized,
whether
we
get
9.
E
G
Was
my
suggestion
last
time
it
sounded
better
coming
from
can
I
guess
but
I
had
said
seven
to
11,
because
I
was
trying
to
equate
if
council
members
were
appointed
and
I
was
the
one
who
said
I
want
to
see
the
bigger
picture.
I
still
want
to
go
back
to
that.
But
to
answer
your
question,
I
had
said
seven
to
11
I
went
along
with
the
consensus
of
five
to
11
to
move
on,
but
anyway
that
was
just
a
bun
Irene.
L
Good
questions,
the
more
we
delve
into
these
issues,
the
more
difficult
it
seems
because
there
are
every
piece
of
it
makes
a
difference.
A
small
piece
of
small
decision
makes
a
difference
in
the
bigger
picture
a
bigger
picture
decision
makes
you
know
you
have
to
coordinate
it
all
and
the
more
you
delve
into
it
the
more
complicated
it
gets
I
for
me
anyway,
I.
L
I
originally
felt
that
five
was
plenty
or
the
smallest
number
I'm
tending
to
rethink
it
and
we'd
like
to
re-visit
seven
to
eleven
I'd,
also
like
to
revisit
how
many
council
people
are
on
I
I
keep
going
back
to
and
not
feeling
comfortable
with.
Only
two
council
people
I
really
really
wish.
We
would
look
at
the
whole
council.
We
did.
The
whole
council
was
the
redevelopment
agency.
We
worked,
it
worked.
Fine,
the
whole
council
could
be
on
this
board
with
additional
people.
L
I
think
it
I
think
part
of
it
is
it's
going
to
be
extremely
doing
in
my
eyes
it
would
be
extremely
difficult
to
have
board
members
appointed
by
the
City
Council
and
there
not
be
any
accountability,
direct
accountability
to
the
residents
of
San
Bruno.
As
counsel
people,
we
have
direct
accountability
to
you.
If
we
don't,
if
you
don't
like
what
we're
doing,
you
tell
us
I'll
be
clear
when
you
vote
for
us
or
don't
vote
for
us.
L
If
this
board
is
made
up,
only
have
appointed,
people
are
only
two
council
people
and
the
majority
of
them
are
appointed
people
I,
just
think
it
it's
it
doesn't
work
I
just
have
a
really
hard
time.
Looking
at
how
that
would
be,
there
are
certainly
people
out
there
who
would
do
a
good
job
have
experience
with
nonprofits
all
those
things,
but
this,
as
you
said
at
the
very
beginning,
is
not
a
normal,
regular
nonprofit.
This
is
a
total
meek.
C
You
know
what
we
have
in
the
in
the
bylaws
gives
us
some
flexibility.
The
way
it
sits
right
now,
five
to
11
gives
us
a
bare
minimum
number
and
a
maximum
there's
nothing
that
could
say
that
the
policy
we
establish
immediately
on
day
one
is
that
there
will
be
seven,
that's
our
decision
to
make
and
it
falls
within
the
range
of
five
to
eleven
ten
years
from
now.
This
is
still
going.
Maybe
it's
gotten
to
a
point
where
it
runs
like
a
well-oiled
machine
and
five
people
can
efficiently
do
it.
C
I
guess
that
ties
directly
back
to
Irene's
comments
about
council
member
participation,
I
I,
see
it
I,
see
something
completely
opposite
and
I
think
I'm.
Definitely
in
the
minority
here
and
saying
that
I
see
this
as
being
something
that's
run
by
the
people,
not
by
the
government.
This
is
about
my
vision
of
this
one
when
it
was
first
proposed,
was
that
this
is
something
that
it's
going
to
go
back
to
the
people.
C
The
people
that
were
damaged
by
the
incident
and
the
city
took
the
lead
in
rallying
the
resources
and
fighting
the
battle
and
getting
it
done.
But
I
would
really
like
to
see
this,
be
something
that's
a
lot
more
independent,
not
something
that's
our
vision,
but
something
that's
I
mean
we
haven't
so
much
influence
and
just
in
appointing
the
directors
that
sit
on
it,
that
is
going
to
really
color
what
that
committee
is
going
to
be
doing
and
for
us
to
insist
on
having
council
members
sit
on
that
on
that
board
record.
C
C
Also
question
what
the
role
of
those
council
people
would
be.
Would
those
two
council
people
be
there
in
fact
to
represent
the
interests
of
the
majority
of
the
City
Council,
or
would
they
be
there
as
independent
Citizens
members
of
the
community?
What's
there
what's
what
what
are
they
bound
to
do?
Has
council
members
sitting
on
the
board
and
I,
don't
know
if
you
can
make
that
distinction
I.
L
L
But
but
my
understanding
of
our
task
or
the
board's
task
ultimately,
is
that
the
benefit
goes
to
the
whole,
the
city
as
a
whole,
because
the
city
as
a
whole
suffered
in
different
ways
and
in
different
degrees,
but
as
a
whole,
we're
not
known
as
the
same
root
of
the
city
with
the
heart.
If,
when
I
go
outside
of
town,
then
people
say:
where
do
you
live
and
I
say:
San
Bruno,
they
don't
say:
oh
the
city
with
the
heart.
They
say.
L
Oh,
the
city
that
blew
up-
that's
that's
part
of
the
totality
of
this
and
that's,
and
even
the
fact
that
that
we
want
to
make
sure
that
this
nonprofit
reflects
where
it
came
from
and
that
we
want
to
say,
remember,
don't
forget
and
keep
keep
pushing
that
you
know
we
want
pipeline
safety
and
all
those
things
that
are
connected
with
it.
So
so
to
me,
the
council's
responsibility
in
everyday
stuff
is
for
the
well-being
of
a
city
as
a
whole.
The
city
as
a
whole.
L
The
voters
give
us
the
trust
and
responsibility
to
make
decisions
about
now.
I'm
going
to
forget
36
million
dollars
in
rent
operating
budgets
and
another
37
million
dollars
in
capital
improvement
budget
I
mean
you
guys,
give
us
a
lot
of
responsibility
for
a
lot
of
things,
with
a
lot
of
money
every
single
day.
So
that's
my
that's
where
I'm
coming
from
totally
opposite,
but
there.
L
C
C
Don't
tell
us
that
you're
holding
it
for
our
best
interest
or
that
you're
trying
to
make
decisions
on
how
that
money
should
be
used,
that
that
I
mean
I
still
remember
those
words
and
I
still
feel
that
the
people
need
to
have
a
major
part
of
the
same.
What
happens
with
this
I
I
think
they
they're
going
to
make
the
right
decisions
and
I
don't
think
they
need
us
to
make
that
for
me,
but.
C
I
don't
mean
to
confuse
where
the
money
came
from,
but
I
mean
that
that
money
was
given
to
the
city
for
the
benefit
of
people,
and
they
were.
We
had
to
make
that
decision,
because
the
money
came
to
us
in
this
case
it's
similar
and
that
the
money
came
to
the
city,
and
but
in
this
case
the
city
I
mean
we're
basically
told,
as
the
government
year
now
really
handling
it,
that
you
have
to
set
up
a
nonprofit
organization.
That's
going
to
handle
this
and
to
me
that
means
arm's
length.
L
B
See
how
many
people
are
here
tonight
so,
even
though
you
feel
that
the
council
is
doing
a
marvelous
job,
not
everybody
in
the
neighborhood
does
I
talked
to
people.
Are
you
going
tonight?
What
for
because
I'm
gonna
say
I'm
gonna
make
my
suggestions
and
other
people
are
and
then
they're
going
to
go
ahead
and
do?
Is
they
darn
police
anyway,
so
I'm
coming
from
a
different
place?
I
listened
to
by
neighbors
I'm,
not
sitting
on
the
council.
B
People
are
leaving
this
neighborhood
for
some
of
the
decisions
made
about
education,
a
lot
of
bought
homes
here,
the
young
people
we're
losing
some
of
our
young
people,
some
of
them.
I
know
personally,
because
we've
had
so
much
of
a
change
in
the
population.
All
of
us
gray
hairs
that
there
are
no
children
in
the
neighborhood
for
them
to
play
with.
There
are
no
children
to
fill
the
schools
that
are
being
closed
and
therefore
they're
going
to
move
where
there
are
children.
So
there
are
other
things
to
think
about.
B
Besides
the
money
that's
going
here,
this
is
a
vision
of
san
bruno,
presumably
a
future
vision.
Correct!
Okay,
if
we're
going
to
the
future,
we
have
a
lot
of
things
to
think
about,
and
one
of
us
that
I
personally
know
people
leaving
this
neighborhood
with
their
children.
Some
of
them
are
some
of
the
emotional
impact
you
know
unless
you
live,
where
we
live
and
went
through
what
we
went
through.
You
have
no
idea
what
the
emotional
impact
has
been
on
the
people
who
live
there
and
is
still
going
on
it's
three
years
now.
B
It's
still
going
on
so
there's
a
lot
of
things
to
look
at
besides
the
bucket
of
money.
So
you
need
to
look
at
a
more
broad
idea
of
what
is
good
for
san
bruno.
That's
all
I'm,
saying
I
know
how
people
feel
there,
and
some
of
them
are
not
feeling
very
good
and
they're
leaving.
So
what
kind
of
a
future
do
you
want
for
San
Bruno,
we're
Luud?
We
love
it
here
with
gray.
Hairs
will
stay
to
lose
you
young
people,
unless
you
give
some
serious
thought
as
to
how
that
money
is
going.
He
used.
A
Let
me
say
a
few
things,
first
of
all,
with
a
question
to
mark,
for
instance,
suppose
that
we
had
a
board
of
eleven
people
and,
let's
suppose
we
had
two
council
members
on
that
board
and,
let's
suppose
that
we
wanted
to
build
a
facility.
A
block
away
from
a
council
members
home.
Does
that
councilmember
have
to
recuse
himself
from
the
board
of
directors.
F
A
F
C
F
So
one
of
the
things
that
the
Board
of
Directors
has
the
authority
to
do
and
would
be
required
to
do
under
state
law,
is
adopt
its
own
conflict
of
interest
policy.
So
it
could
define
more
specifically
in
its
conflict
of
interest
policy.
What
precise
things
constitute
a
conflict
of
interest
within
the
zone
of
those
things
that
are
already
allowed
and
prohibited
by
by
state
law?
So
I
apologize.
F
F
So,
for
example,
the
board
could
say
it's
okay
for
a
council
member
to
participate
in
a
decision
in
which
an
organization
that
he
or
she
is
a
member
gets
a
donation
as
long
as
they
don't
have
any
direct
financial
interest
in
it.
That
would
be
a
reasonable
conflict
of
interest
policy
to
have
wouldn't
be
required
to
have
it,
but
you
could
have
it
and
similar
rules
could
be
could
be
made
for
others,
but
things
like
the
500-foot
rule,
for
example,
I.
Don't
think
the
board
could
override
in
a
conflict
of
interest
policy.
A
A
My
concern
in
the
very
beginning
we
had
first
meeting
city
hall
was
that
in
fact,
believe
it
or
not
I
believe
there
are
people
that
would
run
for
this
council
if
they
knew
that
the
council
ended
up
controlling
70
million
dollars,
because
they
could
a
big
part
of
their
job
would
be
to
control
70
million
dollars.
So
I,
having
listened
to
staff,
you
know,
saying
it's
probably
not
a
bad
idea
to
have
a
couple
of
council
members
on
board.
I.
A
Think
michael
has
a
real
good
idea
and
I
think
we
we
have
enough
wherewithal,
believe
it
or
not,
to
appoint
some
very,
very
decent,
very
respectable,
very
intelligent
and
knowledgeable
people.
Some
experts
in
finance
some
experts
in
Lance
metrics
and
grants
whatever
it
happens,
to
be-
and
you
have
this
reserve
power
here
as
a
council
locked
into
these
bylaws
if
to
prove
that
way,
to
take
care
of
any
big
issues
that
may
come
up
regarding
one
or
two
or
three
or
a
particular
board
members
decision
on
anything
that
involves
this
community.
A
So
I
think
you
really
cover
yourself.
The
ideal
board
for
me
would
be
someone
high
level,
whatever
the
happens,
to
be
influential,
maybe
in
the
county
to
actually
interview
applicants
for
this
board
and
say
you
set
the
parameters
and
I'll
give
you
my
best
shot
at
who
I
think
should
be
on
this
board.
Out
of
all
of
these
applicants,
the
council
approves
that
board
and
the
board
goes
to
work.
I
mean
it's
not
up
to
me
as
a
council
member
or
mayor
to
say
in
the
back
door.
G
You
know
I
brought
up,
you
know
miss
Barnes
brought
up.
You
know.
Why
would
this
body
need
to
do
the
approval
elections
of
officers
as
an
example?
But,
like
you
said
that
can
be
the
powers
can
be
revised.
I
still
go
back
to
the
same
concern:
I
have
Irene.
Would
a
lot
of
it
that'll
had
last
time
is
that
the
money
was
entrusted
to
the
city
as
a
custodian
to
get
the
non-profit
board
in
place.
I
believe
that
there
is
a
responsibility
that
is
set
to
this
council
and
to
the
elected
persons.
G
November
will
bring
an
election,
it
could
be
new
people
up
here,
but
I
think
it's
the
folks
that
sit
up
here
that
have
a
responsibility
to
the
residents
that
know
the
history
know
the
situation
and
assist
in
its
guidance.
I.
Don't
think
anybody
back
doors,
I,
think
everything
is
pretty
out
in
the
open.
I
think
we
have
it's,
not
a
slam.
Dunk.
Every
time
we
meet,
there
are
32
votes
or
41
votes,
so
I
think
everyone's
very
independent.
G
It
is
just
again
it's
a
unique
situation
that
nobody's
traveled
and
I.
Believe
important
as
it
is,
is
that
there
should
be
the
city
council.
My
suggestion
was,
of
course,
and
we
have
the
spectrum
to
shows
you
our
differences
of
nobody.
Five
on
the
board
022
on
the
board.
I
thought
the
board
should
make
all
the
recommendations
and
then
they
get
approved
as
every
other
community
commissioning
board
does
in
the
city
for
any
expenditure
of
monies
of
the
city,
because
it
is,
we
are
the
custodian
of
those
monies.
A
F
F
That's
right:
it
must.
It
must
independently
make
its
own
decisions
only
to
the
extent
that
certain
decisions
can
be
reserved
to
the
City
Council,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
everybody
is
aware
of
that,
because
that's
a
that's
a
really
critical
point,
regardless
of
how
many
council
members,
if
any
are,
are,
are
on
the
on
the
board.
Okay,.
F
Correct
the
board
of
directors,
regardless
of
how
many
council
members
are
on
the
board,
the
board
of
directors
must
be
able
to
make
final
decisions
about
running
the
corporation.
Okay.
Some
of
those
decisions
can
be
reviewed
by
the
City
Council
and
approved
by
the
City
Council.
Those
are
your
reserve
powers
if
you're
wearing
your
City,
Council
hat
as
opposed
to
your
your
board,
member
hat.
F
So
when
you're
wearing
your
board
member
hat
you're,
making
decisions
that
are
best
for
the
corporation
when
you're
wearing
your
city,
council,
member
hat
you're
you're,
making
decisions
that
are
best
for
the
city
and
those
are
two
separate
roles,
and
there
are
two
different
duties
that
council
members
would
have
being
on
the
board
versus
being
on
the
council.
So.
A
So
if
the
board
came
to
this
decided
that
they
wanted
to
do
a
major
expansion
of
the
Senior
Center,
and
they
said
this
is
what
we'd
like
to
do:
it's
going
to
cost
X
number
of
dollars.
We
want
to
view
to
fund
it.
We
want
a
bonded.
We
want
to
pay
for
whatever
want
to
do.
Would
that
that
the
decision
part
the
City
Council
would
say
we
have
to
make
sure
that
this
is
going
through
the
proper
planning
process
and
all
of
that
kind
of
thing
could
we
say
no?
No.
You
can't
do
that.
A
F
Procedurally,
what
would
happen
is
the
board
of
directors
if
they
wanted
to
do
that
would
make
that
proposal
in
its
yearly
budget
and
its
yearly
spending
plan.
That
would
come
to
the
city
council
for
its
approval,
and
you
could
say
yes,
that's
a
great
idea
or
yes,
but
certain
things
have
to
happen
or
no
we're
not
interested
in
doing
that
at
this
time.
Those
are
reserved
powers
right
now
is
the
agreement.
Is
there
as
the
bylaws
are
currently
drafted?
I
can.
E
E
F
Ahead
well
at
the
risk
of
stating
the
obvious
there,
there
does
appear
to
be
a
difference
of
opinion.
Well,
I
mean
I
will
just
say.
Yes,
it
would
be
great
to
get
a
a
sense
of
the
majority,
at
least,
if
not
a
consensus.
You
know
I
think
we've
heard
some
very
passionate
and
well-thought-out
positions
on
all
sides
of
this
particular
issue
and
I
go
back
to
one
of
the
things
I
said
at
the
very
beginning,
which
is
there's
no
right
answer
and
something
like
this
hasn't
really
been
done
before.
F
So
we
shouldn't
feel
badly
that
there's
discussion
about
what
should
what
should
be
done.
I
think
these
are
are
very
difficult
issues.
I
think
the
the
difficulty
is.
On
the
one
hand,
you
have
a
situation
where
you
have
perhaps
no
council
members
on
the
board
and
therefore
the
only
influence
they
could
have
is
either
perhaps
as
an
ex-officio
member
which
we
could
put
in
if
you
want
it
or
as
members
of
the
public
and
through
reserved
powers
which
is
sort
of
after
the
fact.
F
On
the
other
hand,
you
have
all
the
council
members
on
on
the
board.
That
has
certain
advantages,
as
is
a
couple
of
council
members
have
eloquently
expressed
also
some
issues,
because
then
what
you're
doing
is
setting
up
a
situation
where,
when
somebody
runs
for
City
Council,
they're
also
running
to
have
a
seat
on
a
on
a
70
million
dollar
foundation
that
they're
required
to
serve
on.
So
those
are
there's,
there's
things
to
think
about
on
on
both
sides
of
that
issue,
and
the
reason
why
the
bylaws
were
in
essence
drafted
the
way
they
were
was.
F
It
seemed
like
a
middle
position
that
that
most
of
the
council
members
could
could
agree
to.
Although
recognizing
the
council
member
debera
wasn't
here
in
council,
member
O'connor
O'connell
had
some
additional
concerns
that
that
she's
expressed
tonight.
So
that's
why
we
we
sort
of
landed
on
on
two,
but
again,
that's
within
the
discretion
of
the
of
the
city
council.
C
F
A
F
The
council
is
interested
in
not
having
any
City
Council
members
on
the
board.
I
would
suggest
that
the
broad
reserved
powers
that
we've
included
are
are
sufficient.
I
think
between
now
in
the
next
meeting
will
have
an
opportunity
to
consult
both
with
britt
and
with
Mary
Ellen
to
make
sure
that
we
haven't
missed
anything.
That's
really
important
in
the
air
and
if
there
is,
will
will
certainly
bring
it
back
to
you.
Okay,
I
agree,
yeah.
A
H
L
Let's
see,
strictly
speaking,
if
you
I
I,
don't
see
how
you
can
sit
here
and
say
you
trust
you
trust
everything
and
yet
take
all
the
powers
away.
I
mean
you're.
That's
that's
kind
of
what
one
of
the
other
pieces
that
I
was
looking
at
your.
If
you're,
not
gonna,
have
any
council
people
there
and
you're
going
to
point
people,
okay,
I
I,
don't
agree,
but
okay,
then.
L
L
F
C
E
It
actually
I
just
I
just
see
the
worst
I
mean.
If,
if
we
don't
have
these
reserve
powers,
it
is,
it
is
conceivable.
It
is
conceivable
that
a
power
play
could
be
made
and
a
a
decision
can
be
made
out
of
our
control.
An
appointment
can
be
made
and
a
vote,
and
before
you
know
it
something
that
something
that
we
trusted
entrusted
on
them,
as
you
know,
has
gone
out
of
my
ass.
So.
A
F
F
Think
I
may
have
misinterpreted
one
of
them
and
and
said
that
the
conflict-of-interest
code
that
applies
to
City
Council
members,
that
that
does
not
apply
to
board
members
who
are
not
City,
Council
members,
so
in
other
words,
if
you
lived
within
500
feet
of
some
project,
if
you
were
a
city
council
member
and
on
the
board,
you'd
have
to
recuse
yourself
from
that
decision.
But
not
if
you
were
a
board
member,
that's
not
a
city
council.
F
C
C
If
the
council
would
consider
revising
that
to
say
that
a
majority
would
be
residents
or
have
some
sort
of
business
interest
in
the
city
to
give
us
a
little
bit
of
flexibility,
and
if
we
did
want
to
bring
in
somebody
say
if
we
wanted
to
extend
an
offer
to
Jerry
Hill,
to
sit
on
this
on
this
board
that
that
he
wouldn't
be
precluded
or
there
were
someone
with
a
special
interest
in
what
we're
doing
that.
We
don't
preclude
them
by
this
restrictive
sort
of
clause.
Maybe
a
jackie
speier
would
like
to
sit
on
the
board.
A
G
L
I'm
very
uncomfortable
with
that
I
think
we
should
look
at
a
a
secondary
like
an
honorary
board
or
advisory
board,
or
some
other
thing.
I
think
this
is
San.
Bruno
should
be
san
bruno
based.
It's
Sam,
we're
gonna
people,
it's
Sam,
gonna
benefit
it.
I'm
jackie
speier.
I
love
her
and
she
was
really
great
for
us
and
she
did
a
lot
of
things,
but
I
don't
see
what
she
could
add
to
a
board
that
one
of
our
residents
couldn't
unless
she
I
mean
she
would
be
I'm
absolutely
willing
to
give
advice
or
input.
A
L
A
You
said
majority
is
that
what
you
said,
Michael
priority
and
I
have
no
problem
with
that
either
I
really
don't
have
a
problem
bringing
and
maybe
that
person
don't
even
know
into
a
shed
a
special
individual.
It
has
some
special
expertise
in
a
certain
field
under
this
board.
If
they
don't
live
in
san
bruno.
What.
F
Mark
well,
one
alternative
the
council
may
wish
to
consider
is
specifying
that
certain
individuals,
whether
it
be
there,
be
a
certain
number
of
individuals
that
could
be
ex-officio
members
of
the
board
that
that
don't
necessarily
need
to
meet
the
qualifications
of
a
voting
board
member.
So
that's
an
alternative
we
could
we
could
explore.
We
haven't
looked
at
that
that
structure
yet,
but
in
talking
with
Mary
Ellen
that
seems
fairly
common
as
well,
but
just
something
to
consider.
C
F
E
A
G
I
don't
know
if
I
would
go
at
all
I,
just
don't
you
did
again
the
experts
that
we
may
need
and
I
don't
know
again
when
you
need
to
live
with
this.
We
were
told
last
time
for
about
three
years
before
we
make
any
changes.
So
as
we
wanted
a
scope
of
five
to
eleven
or
seven
to
eleven
I
think
in
essence,
we
can
appoint
a
majority.
We
can
appoint
all
its.
G
It
will
be
up
to
the
council
here,
but
I'd
like
to
have
the
ability
for
whomever
interviews,
even
if
it's
outside
that
they
are
not
okay.
Well,
I
only
can
interview.
Let's
take
these
off
the
table
right
away,
I
think
we
should
look
for
where
the
talent
line
and
what
the
needs
are
in
addition
to
having
salmon
representation
as
well.
F
L
E
E
A
H
A
E
E
A
E
E
E
A
A
E
F
I'm
going
to
tell
you
what
I
would
I
think
I
heard
and
will
tell
me
if
it's
right
or
wrong.
What
I've
heard
is
that
a
majority
of
the
board
members
should
be
residents
of
the
city
of
San
Bruno,
the
remainder,
maybe
representatives
of
a
business
located
in
or
with
a
substantial
interest
in
the
city
or
others
who
have
a
particular
expertise
to
offer
the
board
something
along
those
lines.
Okay,
I'll.