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San Bruno Planning Commission Meeting 11-17-09 7A. Staff Discussion
B
All
right,
the
first
is
an
update
on
current
developments.
This
is
something
I
presented
to
the
city
council
about
a
month
ago,
just
to
I
know.
The
Planning
Commission
has
requested
that
we
follow
up
on
some
developments
that
you've
approved
to
give
you
the
status
of
them,
and
it's
it's
a
as
the
Planning
Commission
nose
during
the
boom
between
2002
and
I'd,
say
2007.
B
The
Planning
Commission
and
city
council
approved
over
1500
units
within
San
Bruno,
most
of
those
most
of
those
were
built,
but
another
none
of
a
number
of
them
have
been
paused
at
this
point
that
are
not
going
forward.
Some
are
under
construction
right
now,
but
moving
slowly.
It
seems
like
the
number.
One
thing
that
you
hear
is
not
so
much
a
debate
and
demand
based
situation
right
now,
but
lending
just
isn't
there,
especially
for
the
larger
developments.
B
So
I'll
take
you
through
about
10
different
developments
here
quickly,
because
you
could
stop
me
at
any
time
and
I'm,
starting
with
the
one
of
the
smaller
ones.
The
first
is
peace,
lutheran
church
site.
This
is
just
north
of
the
intersection
of
san
bruno
avenue
in
glenview.
It's
where
the
church
is,
they
were
proposing
to
subdivide
their
property
and
build
five
new
homes.
It
almost
made
it
to
the
architectural
review
level.
B
Unfortunately,
at
the
last
second
about
a
month
ago,
the
applicant
decided
not
to
move
forward
with
the
project,
so
there
is
no
project
at
this
time,
but
what
the
church
is
proceeding
to
do
most
likely
is.
Do
the
lot
split
themselves
to
set
it
up
for
a
developer,
so
they
could
sell
that
parcel
and
they
said
that
they
do
have
people
that
may
be
interested
in
ultimately
developing
the
five
homes
on
the
site.
So
that's
something
you
may
see.
The
second
is
cedar
grove
town
homes.
B
As
you
know,
this
is
on
the
corner
of
cedar
and
pepper,
but
ended
up
being
ashley.
It's
not
townhomes.
It
started
as
townhomes
and
ended
up
a
single-family
home,
rather
very
large,
large
homes.
Although
a
lot
of
it
was
a
basement
area.
This
one,
the
developer,
who
presented
to
you,
is
no
longer
in
business
as
a
developer.
Like
many
midsize
or
small
developers,
they
didn't
weren't
able
to
withstand
the
current
economy.
They
were
out
of
the
Central
Valley
and
a
majority
of
Central
Valley
construction
and
development.
B
Businesses
are
no
longer
in
existence,
so
this
was
one
that
fell
victim
to
the
current
economy,
the
developer
and
is
now
the
development
itself.
The
approvals
itself
are
now
for
sale
for
2.7
million
dollars
and
they're
shopping.
The
project,
the
churches.
My
guess
is
that
when
this
project
does
come
back
and
it
will
come
back
at
some
point-
is
that
it's
going
to
be
for
smaller
homes.
B
A
good
thing
is
that
we've
seen
a
trend
nationwide
that
where
people
were
proposing
three
to
five
thousand
square
foot
homes
during
the
boom
because
of
energy
costs
because
of
construction
costs
and
because
the
sustainability
people
are
generally
going
back
down
to
more
traditional
sizes.
You
know
at
least
under
2,400
square
feet
somewhere
around
that
or
below
2,000
square
feet.
B
Third
project
is
also
around
the
same
size
and
next
door
to
that
peace,
lutheran
church
project,
it's
on
the
corner
of
blend
bugis
glenview
and
san
bruno
avenue
little
over
an
acre
in
size
and
the
Planning
Commission
over
three
years
ago
now
approved
the
Glen
View
Terrace
project.
There
was
an
extension
of
the
approval
given
believe
last
year.
We
have
that
we
have
seen
very
little
activity.
It's
also
for
sale
for
three
about
three
million
dollars
for
the
16
units.
There,
rather
large
units
and
I,
would
also
guess
with
this
one.
B
You'll
see
them
come
back
and
downsize
the
homes
when
they
actually
proposed
them.
Skycrest
also
near
there
24
single-family
homes
were
approved.
Here's
an
example
of
one
on
the
photograph
within
the
PowerPoint
12
have
been
constructed
about
half
of
been
sold
a
little
less
than
half
have
been
sold.
The
others
have
been
rented
out
so
they're
fully
occupied.
The
developer
also
came
back
and
requested
an
extension,
and
they
do
have
an
extension.
B
He
thinks
that
the
market
may
turn
around
around
2012
and
that's
when
he's
expected
to
go
forward
again
the
12
additional
homes
and
start
construction
there
downtown
cinema
site.
This
is
probably
our
the
project
the
planners
were
most
excited
about.
This
is
to
tear
down
a
bank
building,
as
well
as
two
bars
next
door,
build
15,000
square
feet
of
retail,
as
well
as
48
condominiums
like
most
developers.
The
the
problem
is
that
there's
lending
there's
lending
issues.
We
have
seen
some
recent
activity
with
this
one,
even
a
phone
call
today.
B
That's
it
appears
that
something
may
be
coming
through
in
terms
of
investments
where
people
used
to
get
London
is
lending
from.
You
know
eighty
seventy
percent
of
their
lending
from
American
banks,
the
banks-
aren't
lending
big
projects
like
this,
so
you're
either
having
to
find
out
of
the
country
banks.
Are
you
having
to
find
private
investors
to
make
up
that
difference
so,
right
now,
the
developers
out
of
Hong
Kong
is
looking
from
either
investors
within
China
or
banks
within
China
that
are
willing
to
finance
the
project,
and
it
sounds
like
from
a
phone
call.
B
We
got
today
that
there
may
be
some
progress
in
that
search
park.
Plant
Plaza
condominium
conversion.
This
is
on
Whitman
way.
It's
actually
interesting
one.
This
is
one
that
was
apartment.
Complex
built
in
the
60s
was
approved
to
go
to
condominiums
during
the
late
80s
I
mean
during
their
early
80s,
when
there
was
a
big
condominium
craze,
including
the
shelter
creek,
well
shelter
creek
came
online
and
was
right
across
the
street
at
the
same
time
as
this.
So
after
this
was
after
this
project
received
approval,
they
got
to
approvals.
B
They
got
their
map
approval
the
tentative
map,
approval
which
allows
them
to
subdivide
the
actual
units
they
kept
that
on
file,
but
they
repealed
their
use
permit,
which
is
their
local
approval,
so
that
they
could
get
back
some
of
the
fees
that
were
associated
with
that
well
now,
they're
coming
forward
again
with
their
use
permit
requests
to
meet
their
local
requirements,
they're
doing
a
number
of
upgrades
to
the
front
of
the
building.
This
will
come
to
you
within
the
next
couple
months.
B
The
thing
to
note
you
know
there's
also
a
lot
of
concern
about
longtime
residents.
Our
code
is
actually
pretty
good
and
covering
residents
if
you're,
a
senior
citizen
or
you're
disabled
you're
able
to
stay
in
there
for
a
number
of
years
with
having
rain
increases.
If
you
choose
to
stay,
you
also
have
first
right
to
purchase
the
units
if
you
live
within
their.
If
you
choose
to
move,
the
developer
has
to
pay
for
four
months
of
living.
Expenses
is
four
months
of
rent,
as
well
as
your
moving
expenses.
B
So
there's
a
lot
of
things
built
within
there
to
encourage
the
developer
to
keep
the
current
residence
and
offer
them
affordable
prices
to
purchase
the
unit
rather
than
just
making
everyone
leave.
As
this
converts
the
miramonte
subdivision,
this
one
is
70
single-family
homes
built
on
the
former
Carl
Sandburg
site.
This
actually
has
gone
forward.
All
the
building
permits
have
been
pulled
about
half
of
been
sold.
They
expect
construction
to
finalize
within
the
next
year
or
so,
and
hopefully
all
the
homes
have
been
sold.
What's
interesting
about
this
one.
B
Is
it's
consistent
with
the
nationwide
trend
of
smaller
homes
that
came
back
with
a
number
of
smaller
floor
plans
and
those
are
the
ones
that's
sold
right
away,
so
it
I
think
you
did
too
produced
to
put
a
price
point
to
make
it
more
affordable,
but
people
are
generally
getting
used
to
smaller
homes
and
that's
what
the
developer
decided
to
go
forward
with
the
next
development
has
been
recently
named
acapella
at
the
crossing.
This
is
SN
k's
development.
B
The
second
is
a
hundred
and
eighty-seven
unit
building
expected
sometime
middle
of
next
year,
maybe
springtime
early
summer
of
next
year,
and
that
would
be
for
sale,
product
slightly
larger
units,
but
they're
all
quality
units
and
thinks
there's
a
lot
of
demand
for
rental
housing
still
within
the
crossing,
so
they're
excited
to
get
that
online
tree
tops
probably
our
most
troublesome
developments.
This
was
originally
approved
to
go
through
for
about
three
years
ago
to
go
from
a
308
unit
to
a
510
unit.
Building
that
got
approvals,
they're
going
to
move
forward.
B
They
vacated
the
whole
apartment
complex
and
now
it's
SAT
vacant
for
that
time,
and
they
can't
get
financing
for
the
510
years
building
recently
within
the
last
month
that
came
back
to
us
and
they
said
they
would
prefer
to
go
forward
themselves.
They
actually
tried
to
sell
the
project
for
a
while
that,
could
they
weren't
successful,
so
they
actually
want
to
go
forward
themselves
now
with
the
remodel
of
the
existing
308
units,
so
we're
working
with
them
right
now
on
building
code
issues
to
see
what
they
would
have
to
meet
in
terms
of
building
code.
B
So
we're
we're
doing
that
with
them
right
now
and
hopefully
that
will
the
neighborhood
will
see
some
positive
improvement
with
that
within
the
next
year
or
so
crossing
retail.
This
is
another
project.
That's
actually
just
broke
ground
and
under
construction,
12,000,
250
square
feet
of
retail
and
restaurant
space
about
5,400
of
that
space
has
already
been
leased
out
to
restaurant
call.
B
It's
going
to
be
called
jacks
at
San
Bruno,
it's
a
mark
of
DC
brothers,
who
are
the
local
family
that
good
three
brothers
that
grew
up
in
the
area
that
own
boulevard
cafe
in
daly
city.
This
is
going
to
be
their
higher
end.
Restaurant
and
they're
excited
about
moving
in
here.
It's
been
really
fun
to
work
with
them
and
see
their
their
project
go
forward
from
when
they
first
went
forward.
B
They
first
proposed
it
to
where
it
is
now
some
of
the
plans
that
have
been
promoted
proposed
and
the
type
of
interior
improvements
that
were
approved
by
the
City
Council
in
general.
In
regards
to
other
activity,
I
think
that
the
Planning
Commission
is
seen
that
agendas
that
used
to
be
full
of
67
use
permits
in
the
past
now
to
have
two
or
three
use
permits.
B
We're
averaging
over
the
last
two
years
about
forty
use
permits
a
year
where
it
was
about
80
use
permits
a
year
during
the
three
peat
years
of
2008
middle
of
two
thousand
four
or
five
six
and
in
27.
So
we're
not
seeing
but
I
think
what
we're
seeing
is
people
who
were
doing
thousand-square-foot
additions.
B
Now
or
maybe
doing
two
three
hundred
square
foot
additions
and
remodeling
their
homes,
so
we
have
seen
a
decrease
in
building
permit
activity,
but
they're
still
building
permanent
construction
activity
out
there
that
just
less
dramatic
than
it
was
before
some
new
businesses
Hooters
is
opening
up
in
tanforan,
Planning
Commission
reviewed
that
application.
It's
expected
for
a
December
opening,
there's
also
a
store
called
romper
room,
which
is
a
kids
play
type
store.
That's
also
proposed
to
be
opening
there.
B
The
building
permit
process
right
now
and
a
Brazilian
steakhouse
I
think
you
saw
that
as
an
application
is
proposed
in
the
downtown
area
to
where
the
old
kids
kuts
is
so
that's
kind
of
summary
of
the
ten
prod.
Ten
major,
I
believe,
is
ten
major
projects
in
san
bruno.
So
I
could
take
any
questions
that
you
have
at
this
time.