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From YouTube: FEB 8, 2021 | Charter Review Commission
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City of San José, California
Charter Review Commission of February 8, 2021
This public meeting will be conducted via Zoom Webinar. For information on public participation via Zoom, please refer to the linked meeting agenda below.
Agenda https://sanjose.legistar.com/View.ashx?M=A&ID=836880&GUID=B8A0B7B0-59A8-4E61-81E5-FB4E6173DD9E
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B
B
B
C
C
A
A
A
A
D
I
believe
we
have
a
quorum.
So,
let's
start
by
asking
the
clerk
to
take
the
role.
E
A
E
E
A
D
A
C
I
E
Yeah,
I
didn't
see
your
name
either.
Magnolia
will
be
here
in
a
minute.
A
E
E
K
A
E
And
I
have
a
couple
I'm
moving
over
from
on
the
attendee
side,
I'm
moving
linda
and
luis
I'm
going
to
go
back
through
the
ones
I
have
absent.
I
have
elizabeth
yep,
I'm
here.
Okay,
jeremy
bruce.
E
Thank
you,
maria
maria
fuentes
and
sherry
segura,
also
like
we
did
get
a
resignation
this
morning
from
roshini,
so
we're
working
on
filling
that
vacancy.
A
D
Thank
you
very
much
good
evening,
everyone
and
welcome
to
our
meeting
of
the
san
jose
charter.
Commission,
it's
february
8th-
and
this
is
our
regular
commission
meeting.
I
wanted
to
let
commissioners
know
that
not
only
are
we
being
recorded,
but
we
are
being
televised.
D
D
I'm
going
to
walk
you
through
the
agenda
in
a
minute,
but
I
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
and
the
public
that's
listening
as
well,
I'm
hoping
that
you
see
in
our
agenda
review
and
the
work
that
we're
going
to
do
tonight
that
we
are
trying
to
be
as
responsive
to
both
commissioners
and
the
public's
input
to
us,
and
so
one
of
those
changes
already
is
the
the
television
televising
of
all
of
our
commission
meetings.
So
let
us
begin
with
the
consent.
D
D
You
chi
t
tron
is
second
and
there's
no
discussion
on
a
consent.
Item
agenda.
Commissioners.
Remember
that
if
you
add
an
item
to
pull,
we
always
can
do
that
right
before,
but
these
are
the
minutes
of
our
last
two
meetings.
So
I'm
going
to
ask
the
clerk
to
take
the
role
for
the
vote.
A
E
A
C
A
E
D
E
L
A
E
A
M
D
That
motion
carries
until
those
minutes
are
adopted.
Our
next
item
is
item
for
a
which
is
report
from
the
chair
tonight.
I
wanted
to
just
summarize
quickly
just
some
of
my
input
to
the
response
I've
heard
from
commissioners
and
from
the
public
in
the
last
two
meetings
around
our
public
engagement
strategy
and
really
making
sure
that
we
have
a
strategy
and
a
plan,
and
that's
really
the
work
of
tonight.
D
So
I've
asked
for
our
city
staff,
both
clerk
and
our
city,
attorney
to
address
the
commission,
answering
questions
that
have
come
up,
giving
us
guidelines
and
recommendations
and
suggestions,
but
really
being
able
to
answer
your
questions
so
you'll
be
able
to
ask
those
questions
directly
and
both
of
the
city
clerk
as
well
as
the
city
attorney
and
hopefully
get
some.
We
can
get
some
clarity
on
just
procedural
protocols
around.
How
do
we
give
input?
What
do
we
do?
D
How
do
we
respond
lots
of
engagements
happening
in
the
city
right
now,
and
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
our
commission
is,
as
as
some
of
you
have
said,
we
really
want
to
be
modeling.
The
public
engagement
strategies
that
you
for
other
commissions
into
the
community.
D
I
also
want
to
remind
you
that
public
comment
after
the
attorney
is
going
to
be
speaking
and
stuff.
We
always
can
go
through
the
chair
if,
if
you
know
what
that
means
in
terms
of
rules
of
order,
just
if
there's
some
comment
that
comes
up
from
the
community
or
someone
or
an
issue
that
comes
up
that
you
want
to
address,
you
can
always
address
that
through
the
chair.
We
don't
address
the
public,
especially
after
public
comment,
but
you
always
can
move
to
ask
the
chair
for
whatever
right.
D
Some
people
have
asked
questions
about
style
and
protocol
and
how
we're
kind
of
running
meetings,
and
so
I
wanted
to
just
take
a
minute
before
we
get
into
the
agenda
itself,
to
kind
of
just
reflect
a
little
bit
of
what
some
of
my
goals
have
been
and
what
I'm
trying
to
accomplish,
especially
in
our
early
meetings
as
we
begin
to
get
to
know
each
other
and
really
formulate.
D
My
goal
is
a
couple:
what
a
couple
things
we
are
not
in
person,
as
we
all
know,
and
that's
a
real
challenge
on
zoom
to
keep
everyone
engaged
and
feeling
like
they
can
participate,
and
so
early
on.
I
wanted
to
use
roundtable
and
I'll
continue
to
use
that
strategically.
What
I
think
it's
best
to
use
so
that
we
do
hear
from
everyone
and
also
that
people
practice
like
getting
on
to
the
zoom
getting
your
voice
off,
so
that
no
one's
uncomfortable
using
the
technology
and
everyone's
participating
in
the
conversation.
D
You
know
as
a
college.
Professor,
I
always
know
that
30
percent
of
the
class
is
going
to
talk,
so
my
job
is
really
to
make
sure
that
the
other
60
percent-
you
know
seventy
percent,
the
other
folks
that
are
kind
of
not
the
ones
always
communicate,
feel
like
they're
contributing
and
being
able
to
participate.
D
If
you
don't
have
something
else
to
add
to
the
to
the
conversation
in
a
roundtable,
you
can
always
say
miss
chair,
I'm
fine.
I
pass
and
we
just
keep
moving
on,
but
we
want
everyone
specifically
because
you
represent
different
districts
to
have
that
voice,
included
and
that's
kind
of
the
purpose
of
round
tables
to
make
sure
everyone's
heard.
Everyone
gets
some.
You
know
practice
at
just
being
able
to
speak
up,
and
then
we
move
forward.
D
I'm
also
trying
to
make
this
as
an
efficient
system
as
possible
with
22
foot
voices.
That's
not
always
going
to
be
easy
to
do
so.
We
will
have
times
when
we
get
to
more.
What
I'm
hoping
is
informed
discussions
that
we
have
where
lawrence
and
I
will
be
asking
for
comments
and
discussion
and
and
kind
of
some
feedback
and
so
forth,
where
we're
not
going
through
round
table.
D
But
we
really
do
want
to
make
sure
that
those
folks
who
have
something
to
add
to
the
conversation
feel
heard,
and
sometimes
there's
rules
like
you.
Don't
have
somebody
speak
again
until
everyone's
spoken
for
the
first
time
or
we'll
just
see
how
that
goes.
But
I
really
want
to
make
sure
folks
are
included
in
the
conversation
no
one
feels
like
they
have
to
say
something,
but
also
people,
don't
feel
hesitant
to
add
their
voice
and
if
it
isn't
something,
you
have
some
thing
to
add
that
you
feel
fine,
not
sharing
at
that
moment.
D
For
that
particular
item,
we
don't
have
to
hear
from
everyone
on
every
issue,
except
when
we
really
need
to
and
then
I'll
call
for
more
of
a
round
table.
We
do
have
the
raise
function,
raise
hand
function
on
most
of
you,
hopefully
on
all
your
zoom
connections.
But
if
that
doesn't
work,
it's
hard
because
we're
on
two
screens
to
see
everyone
all
the
time
so
lawrence
and
I
are
hoping
that
we
help
each
other
catch
that.
D
So,
if
I
ever
miss,
someone
feel
free
to
mute
yourself
and
and
just
stop
me
lawrence
will
do
the
same
thing
and
I'll
try
to
help
him
as
well.
D
But
if
you're,
using
your
raised
hand
function
on
zoom,
that's
great,
we
can
do
that
or
just
raise
your
hand,
and
I
hopefully
will
be
able
to
see
you,
because
I
want
to
make
sure
that
if
there
are
questions
or
so
forth,
we
do
hear
from
everyone
and
I'm
not
trying
to
move
on
until
we
have
hurt
folks-
and
the
last
thing
I
think,
is
that
today
tonight
we're
going
to
hear
from
the
city
attorney
and
the
city
clerk
to
be
able
to
answer
some
of
the
questions
and
the
issues
that
you
raised:
around
access,
translation
and
noticing
and
so
forth,
and
so
on.
D
We
did
it
as
a
second
part
of
our
meeting
last
after
the
meeting
last
time,
and
I
thought
it
was
very
informative
and
I
think,
just
to
access
it
from
the
public's
perspective.
It
just
makes
it
easier
if
we
all
walk
through
it
together,
so
that
no
one
commissioner
feels
like
did
I
get
all
the
handouts.
Is
this
what
I'm
supposed
to
be
doing,
and
I
think
just
having
the
clerk
go
through,
that
instructionally
for
us
it'll
really
help
make
sure
we're
all
getting
equal
access
and
easy
access
to
the
documentation.
D
The
city
clerk
and
the
staff
are
being.
You
know,
trying
really
hard
to
get
all
this
information
prepared
and
ready.
We
have
to
post
a
week
in
advance
which
pushes
a
real
tight
timeline
for
the
staff,
our
consultant
and
myself
to
get
this
stuff
turned
around,
but
we're
trying
hard
to
be
able
to
do
that.
D
So
I
wanted
to
have
the
clerk
directly
address
us
around
how
to
access
that
and,
as
I
say
since,
we're
now
being
recorded,
that'll
make
it
easier
for
anyone
that
wants
to
come
back
to
this
meeting
to
really
be
able
to
see
those
things.
So,
given
that
I
also
want
to
make
sure
that
we
always
we
always
have
room
for
a
public
comment,
and
I
appreciate
the
public
paying
attention
to
this
really
important
commission's
work
and
will
call
for
public
public
input
at
different
times
and
their
regular
part
of
the
schedule
as
well.
D
The
first
thing
I'd
like
to
do
tonight
is
to
ask
us
to
adopt
our
commissioner
agreements,
so
you
got
the
the
agreements
you
gave
us
feedback
around
them.
We've
made
the
changes,
the
edits
that
you
suggested
and
now
they're
they're
ready
for
adoption
and
why
I
want
to
keep
moving
us
on
is
adopting
things
means
that
for
now,
let's
use
these
as
our
working
rules
that
we
think
about
and
that
we're
conscious
of
and
we're
intentional
about.
If
something
comes
up
later
and
you're,
mr
chair,
we
did
not
have
an
intention
around.
D
We
didn't
have
this
engagement
strategy.
We
need
to
that's
fine,
but
for
now
let's
keep
moving
by
saying
we've
taken
a
time.
We've
had
some
ability
to
talk
about
it.
We've
got
some
edits
that
have
come
back
to
you.
You've
had
a
couple
of
weeks
to
kind
of
go
through
them
in
this
process,
and
so
I
think
we're
I'm
hoping
that
we're
ready
for
adoption
tonight,
so
I'm
going
to
ask
for
a
motion
to
adopt
in
a
second
and
then
we'll
open
it
up
for
conversation
before
we
take
a
vote.
D
D
E
E
D
Thank
you
awesome
all
right,
and
now
we
had
a
presentation
by
our
our
consultants
last
time
about
city
charter
101..
That
was
a
presentation
that
was
made.
The
powerpoint
has
been
made
public
to
to
the
public
and
at
this
time
I'm
going
to
ask
for
anyone
having
public
comment
about
the
city
charter,
101
presentation,
because
now
you've
had
a
chance
to
go
through
and
and
look
at
that
presentation-
that's
been
online.
D
E
Yes,
I
have
three
members
of
the
public.
The
first
one
is
paul
soto.
B
Good
evening,
paul
soto
from
the
horseshoe.
This
is
interesting
that
you
went
as
far
back
as
1850
from
the
beginning
of
california's
constitution.
City
charter
provisions
in
1850
from
1850
to
1852
san
jose
was
the
capital
of
the
state
of
california.
B
E
Yeah
and
I'm
I'm
trying
to
mute
him
as
well,
so
I
can
tell
him
his
that
your
paul,
your
audio,
is
breaking
up,
so
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna,
move
on
to
the
next
person
and
then
I'll
come
back
to
you
at
the
end.
N
N
K
Hi
I
had
a
question:
a
procedure.
Is
this
about
last
week's
meeting
or
last
the
meeting
of
last
time
the
101
session.
D
Yes,
sir,
this
is
about
the
charter
101,
the
city
charter,
101
presentation
that
was
made
by
our
consultant.
K
Okay,
yeah
from
the
meeting
of
last
time
where
this
was
made,
this
presentation
was
made.
I
just
wanted
to
offer
a
reminder
of
you
know
to
be
open
to
to
public
understanding,
and
there
is
there's
a
significant
part
of
the
population
of
san
jose.
K
That
is
considering
you
know
what
are
ideas
of
of
inviting
the
council
more
to
the
future
process
and
and
the
elected
official
process
to
to
more
question
the
future
of
say
the
role
of
a
city
manager
and
how
can
how
can
elected
officials
and
the
community
have
more
more
power
than
before,
not
just
the
strong
mayor
and
it's
learning
those
subtleties
and
possibly
learning
to
shift
the
conversation
from
strong
mayor
into
what
is
you
know,
our
decades-long
tradition
of
working
out
community
issues
and
and
reaffirming
that
it
is
a
council,
a
process
that
is
kind
of
the
heart
and
soul
of
san
jose?
K
That's
that's
kind
of
our
tradition
and
how
we
work
on
that.
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
yourselves
aware
of
that
and
open
and
that
we
can
be.
You
know,
open
to
different
ideas
and
ways
to
work
thanks.
A
lot.
B
Thank
you
tony.
Can
you
please
tell
me
there's
no
timer.
That
appears
so
I
don't
know
like
because
I'm
used
to
timing
it
that
way.
E
It's
a
little
tiny,
it's
one
of
the
the
speaker
windows.
B
I
don't
have
it
on
my
phone:
okay,
it's
not
appearing
so
can
okay.
Well,
can
you
give
me
a
15
second
warning.
I'd
appreciate
it.
Yes,
I
will
okay
cool.
Thank
you.
Okay,
now
paul
soto
from
the
horseshoe,
I
was
reading
the
california's
constitution.
What
you're,
using
as
a
reference
point
as
the
beginning
start
point
california,
was
the
state
of
cali
was
the
capital
of
the
state
of
california
between
1850
and
1852.
B
At
that
time,
peter
burnett
stated
we
have
suddenly
spread
ourselves
over
the
country
in
every
direction
and
appropriated
whatever
of
it.
We
please
to
ourselves
without
their
consent
and
without
compensation,
so
you're
using
as
us
in
quote
now,
you-
and
this
is
in
peter
burnett's
public
address
state
of
the
union
address
to
the
state
of
california,
so
everything
that
flows
from
that
fruit
is
rotten
fruit.
It's
rotten
it's
polluted
if
we
have
to
start
over,
as
as
as
as
as
vile
and
offensive,
as
that
may
be
to
some
that
are
this
listening
today.
B
We're
also
doing
this
at
a
time
when
the
issue
of
this
magnitude
is
being
done
within
the
context
of
covid.
Okay,
I'm
being
deprived
of
my
constitutional
right
to
challenge
these
grievances
in
person,
so
this
it's
not
even
constitutional,
what
it
is
that
you're
doing
on
its
face,
and
and
so
so
to
just
act
like
oh.
This
is
the
same
as
regular
government
done
when
the
person
can
be
in
the
same
room
looking
at
people
in
the
eye
to
say
that
is
insulting,
especially
considering
that
the
first
victim
of
kovid
was
here
in
san
jose.
B
Also
number
two.
I
would
like
an
equity
lens.
I
would
like
a
representative
of
the
racial
equity
office
to
be
in
these
meetings
and
for
all
the
decisions
here
to
equity
lens,
to
be
applied
to
everything
that
goes
on
here.
Absolutely
everything,
thank
you,
tony
and
so.
In
conclusion,
I
I
would
really
suggest
some
people
start
doing
their
homework,
especially
about
the
influence
that
judge
william
almond
had
on
these
city
charters.
Thank
you.
D
You
so
much
appreciate
everyone's
comments.
Let's
move
to
the
new
business
in
item,
a
civic
engagement.
You
know
tonight,
as
I
said,
we're
really
trying
to
figure
out
what
are
the
best
ways
for
us
to
work
both
effectively
and
efficiently.
How
do
we
make
sure
that
we
are
open
to
listening
and
hearing
from
our
community
and
the
representation
that
you
bring
from
each
of
the
districts
and
from
the
citywide
as
well
as
we
continue
to
move
forward
in
an
efficient
way
so
that
we
can
bring
recommendations?
D
A
minority
and
a
minority
report
back
to
the
city
council
for
their
deliberation
and
for
their
decision
making?
And
so
tonight
we're
going
to
start
with
hearing
from
our
city
clerk
and
our
city
attorney.
D
We
also
have
two
guests
coming
tonight
to
talk
to
us
representative
of
the
community,
to
talk
to
us
about
some
of
the
recommendations
they
have
in
terms
of
the
work
that
they've
done
is
in
community,
organizing
and
community
engagement
processes.
We'll
have
time
for
questions
after
as
well.
So
each
of
the
following
speakers
will
have
some
time
afterwards
for
questions
from
you.
So
I'm
going
to
ask
the
city
attorney
first
to
address
us
and
then
we'll
have
some
time
for
questions
of
the
city
attorney
manny
good
evening.
F
Mr
chair,
sorry,
just
before
we
move
on,
I
I
did
have
a
question
regarding
the
previous
section
and
tell
me
if
I'm
doing
this
according
to
the
procedure
that
you
laid
out
earlier,
so
where
can
we,
our
members
of
the
public,
find
the
commissioner
agreement
that
will
be
on
the
consent
agenda
next
time?
Thank
you.
E
They
will
be
posted
as
a
link
on
the
the
agenda
and
I'm
also
going
to
add
them
to
the
website
and
are
they
currently
posted?
They
are
not
currently
part
of
this.
They
were
not
posted
as
part
of
the
agenda
last
monday.
That's
why
I
suggested
they
be
brought
back
for
consent
calendar
at
the
next
meeting.
O
Good
evening,
everyone,
my
name,
is
mark
bonnie,
as
the
chair
said,
I'm
a
representative
on
behalf
of
the
city
attorney's
office
and
I've
been
assigned
to
staff
this
body,
and
so
I
understand
there
are
some
questions
out
there
about
civic
engagement
and
what
is
and
what
is
not
permitted
feel
free.
If
anybody
has
any
questions
or
it
might
be
actually
better
to
just.
O
Let
me
give
my
spiel
for
a
few
minutes
and
then
we'll
open
up
the
floor
to
questions,
so
I
just
wanted
to
start
real
quick
with
what
this
body
is
and
you
the
charter
review.
Commission
was
a
body
that
was,
as
I'm
sure
many
of
you
know,
was
established
by
the
council
last
year.
It
was
established
by
resolution
of
the
council
and
in
that
resolution
it
sets
out
the
process
for
appointment
of
the
commission,
as
well
as
the
topics
that
the
council
wants
the
commission
to
look
at.
O
So
it's
subject
matter
jurisdiction,
and
so
the
charter
review
commission
is
known
as
an
advisory
body
without
decision-making
authority,
and
so
what
does
that
mean?
Well,
what
the
council
is
looking
for
is
just
that:
a
body
to
provide
advice,
recommendations
and,
in
this
case
there'll
be
a
report
that
comes
out
from
this
commission
as
well
as
a
minority
report,
and
but
it's
not
binding
on
anybody.
It
is.
O
It
is
just
a
recommendation
to
the
city,
council
and
the
city
council
can
then
take
that
report
and
either
move
forward
with
it
not
move
forward
with
it,
make
modifications
to
it
and
so
on,
and
in
this
particular
case,
since
we're
dealing
with
issues
like
the
charter.
Ultimately,
whatever
ends
up
going
forward,
if
it
is
indeed
a
recommended,
change
will
will
need
to
be
put
forward
to
the
voters
and
the
council
will
have
to
put
that
on
the
ballot
now
in
terms
of
what
is
and
what
is
not.
Okay.
O
With
respect
to
civic
engagement,
the
resolution
that
establishes
this
commission
doesn't
set
out
many
parameters.
There
are
other
commissions
that
the
council
has
set
up
recently,
one
being
the
redistricting
commission
which
is
yet
to
meet,
and
that
commission
has
in
the
resolution
that
establishes
it
a
number
of
parameters
that
limit
what
it
can
and
cannot
do
outside
of
a
public
meeting.
O
Those
parameters
are
not
do
not
apply
to
this
commission
because
they're
not
set
forth
in
the
resolution
from
the
council.
However,
the
commission
could,
as
a
body,
decide
to
adopt
some
or
other
measures
like
that
and
I'll
get
to
the
mechanism
by
which
the
commission
may
do
that.
O
O
That
being
said,
this
commission
can
adopt
some
or
all
of
those
limits
if
it
so
chooses
there.
There
are
certain
things
in
there
that,
as
a
body
you,
the
commission
may
want
to
consider
particularly
around
what,
in
terms
of
what
communication
comes
out
of
the
commission
and
so
on.
What
what?
O
What
is
being
said
on
behalf
of
the
commission,
as
opposed
to
what
is
being
said
by
individual
commissioners
and
so
council
policy
dash
four
for
anybody,
that's
interested
can
be
found
on
the
city's
website
and
one
of
the
things
that's
also
in
council
police
policy
dash
4
are
model
bylaws
that
commissions
establish
for
themselves.
O
This
commission
can,
if
it
so
chooses,
established
bylaws
you're
not
bound
by
the
model
because
of
the
again
the
policy
doesn't
apply
directly
to
this
body,
but
it
is
a
good
start,
starting
point
if
it
is
something
that
the
commission
wants
to
pursue
and
that's
something
that
the
city
attorney's
office,
in
conjunction
with
the
city,
clerk,
can
assist
him
putting
forward
and
then,
of
course,
the
limitations
or
or
other
things
and
bylaws
can
have
things.
You
know
what
do
you
use
robert
rules
of
order?
O
What
time
the
meetings
meetings
are
where
the
meetings
are
when
they
are,
and
so
on
and
so
forth
are
set
forth
in
the
bylaws
and
then
in
terms
of
other
laws,
and
you
know
what
we're
really
concerned
with
you
know.
I
focused
on
kind
of
city
policy.
Again
those
don't
directly
apply
to
you,
but
they
could
but
laws
that
do
apply
to
you.
The
two
biggies
are
the
brown
act
and
the
public
records
act.
O
When
all
of
you
all
of
you
should
have
had
a
brown
act,
training
that
was
provided
by
the
city
clerk's
office.
I
don't
want
to
repeat
that,
although
I
do
have
one
slide
about
a
recent
change
in
the
law
that
I
want
to
go
over
with
you.
But
our
big
concern
with
the
brown
act
is
serial
meetings
and
serial
meetings
are
those
type
of
meetings.
O
They're
like
a
game
of
telephone
where
or
where
one
person
says
something
to
somebody
else
who
says
something
to
somebody
else
and
then
before
you
know
it
you've
got
a
majority
of
the
commission.
Now
this
is
a
large
commission,
so
a
majority
would
be
11
members
and
and
that
that
is
a
lot
of
people,
but
it's
possible,
particularly
if
somebody
is
sending
out
email
blasts
and
things
like
that
to
commissioners.
O
So
so
we
want
to
avoid
serial
meetings
wherever
possible,
and
so
you
know,
one
of
the
exceptions
under
the
brown
act
is
going
to
publicize
community
meetings.
So
in
the
context
of
the
city
council,
for
example,
a
number
of
city
council
members,
a
majority
in
fact
can
go
to
a
publicized
community
meeting
and
attend
and
speak
on
issues.
The
issue
that
they're
concerned
about
is
whether
or
not
they
speak
among
themselves
and
then
also
whether
or
not
they
are
getting
into
the
business
of
taking
action
on
a
particular
item
or
deliberating
amongst
themselves.
O
We
want
to
avoid
that
scenario,
because
that's
a
brown
act
violation
and
if
there
is
a
community
meeting
out
there
that,
where
a
majority
of
the
members
or
all
the
members
may
want
to
attend
them,
then
we
might
want
to
notice
that
as
a
public
meeting
and
so
so
serial
meetings
are
a
big
concern
for
our
office
when,
when
commissioners
and
and
members
of
a
legislative
body
are
going
out
into
the
public
where
they
might
engage
with
other
members
of
the
commission-
and
there
is
one
recent
change
in
the
law
that
occurred
that
went
into
effect
just
this
year.
O
On
january
1st,
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
share
my
screen
with
everybody,
and
so
it
has
to
do
with
social
media.
So
this
was
a
bill
ab992
enacted
in
january,
1
2021
and
it's
effective
through
january
1
2026.
O
So
you
guys
will
be
done
with
your
work
by
that
point,
but
it's
for
a
five-year
period
unless
extended
by
future
legislation
and
and
the
reason
that
it
was
enacted
was
because
there
were
some
concerns
or
confusion
about
what
constituted
a
serial
meeting
over
social
media,
considering
how
public
it
is,
and
the
law
says
that
social
media
can
be
used
to
answer.
Questions
from
the
public,
provide
information
to
the
public
and
solicit
solicit
information
from
the
public
and-
and
I
have
counsel
in
there,
but
it's
it's
excuse
me
did.
O
Did
you
guys
lose
my
screen?
Yeah?
Sorry
about
that?
Sorry
about
that
and
solicit
information
from
the
public
on
matters
within
the
subject
matter
jurisdiction.
I
have
councils
there,
that's
a
typo
that
should
be
within
the
commission
or
subject
matter
jurisdiction.
O
The
one
thing
that
you
can't
do
on
social
media
just
like
in
a
at
a
community
meeting
or
something
like
that
is
you
can't
use
it
to
discuss
matter
within
your
subject
matter.
Jurisdiction
among
the
majority
of
the
members
and
discuss
means
things
like
favoriting
emojis,
any
type
of
expressive
reaction.
So
it's
not
just
you
know
communicating
with
somebody
through
written
form.
It's
any
form
that
you
might
be
able
to
use
on
on
social
media.
O
So,
for
example,
if
a
resident
were
to
comment
on
something
about
the
charter
review
commission's
work
in
12
members,
where
do
with
a
thumbs
up
or
thumbs
down
it,
that
would
potentially
run
afoul
of
this
legislation
and
the
most
specific
issue
or
the
the
most
consequential
issue
for
everybody
is
that
you
cannot
respond
directly
to
any
social
media
communication
from
another
commissioner
and
the
supply.
O
It
prohibits
that.
So,
if
somebody
were
to
tweet
something
say
you
used
twitter
and
you
were
to
tweet
something
about
the
charter
review.
Commission.
Another
commissioner,
cannot
respond
directly
to
that
tweet.
It
remains
to
be
seen
whether
sharing
retweeting
things
like
that
would
also
run
afoul
of
this,
a
newly
elected
law-
it's
just
too
new
and
it
and
it
hasn't
really
been
either
litigated
or
and
no
other
city
attorneys
that
I'm
aware
of
have
dealt
with
it.
O
So
at
this
point,
what
we're
telling
everybody
is
to
just
be
be
cautious
when
other,
with
other
social
media
posts
that
that
another
commissioner
posts
and
social
media
has
a
broad
is
expansive
under
this.
So
it's
not
just
your
typical
facebook,
twitter
instagram,
but
it's
any
online
platform
that
is
otherwise
free
and
available
to
the
public
and
doesn't
require
any
special
permission
to
be
on
it.
So
things
like
youtube
would
be
covered
blog
sites,
wordpress
medium
things
like
that.
That
reddit
is
another
one,
so
I
mean
it
it.
O
It
can
encompass
a
lot
of
different
things
and,
as
I
said,
it's
relatively
new
so
as
as
things
develop,
we'll
provide
more
information
as
as
we
learn
more
about
this,
and
so
for
that
I'll.
Stop
sharing
my
screen
and
as
I
mentioned
at
the
top,
the
other
thing
that
we're
really
concerned
with
is
public
records.
O
Just
so
that
everybody's
aware,
I
don't
know
if
you've
been
given
city
emails
by
the
city
clerk's
office,
but
we
we
one
thing
with
the
public
records
act.
There
was
a
case
involving
the
city
of
san
jose,
and
that
applies
statewide.
Now
that
information
public
records
that
are
disseminated
on
personal
devices
or
through
personal
accounts
can
be
subject
to
disclosure
under
the
public
records
act.
So
we
advise
everybody
not
to
use
personal
email
accounts
to
communicate
with
members
of
the
public.
O
It's
much
easier
if
everything
goes
through
city
servers
or
in
the
alternative,
everything
comes
into
a
singular
location
and
then
it
can
be
addressed
in
a
public
meeting,
but
we
want
to
be
mindful
of
any
types
of
communication
that
you're
putting
in
the
written
form.
That's
about
the
subject
matter
within
the
subject
matter
of
this
commission
or
the
city's
business
related
to
what
you
guys
are
doing
could
be
a
public
record.
O
D
This
is
the
chair
mark.
Would
you
do
me
a
favor,
though
one
of
the
questions
that
came
up
is
so
if
you
are
getting
on
your
city
on
your
city,
email
address
information
from
the
public.
What
should
your
response
be
or
what
should?
What
should
it
should
or
not
should
not
be,
and
then
also
what
is
the
communication
between
commissioners
as
well.
O
Again,
as
I
mentioned,
we
want
to
avoid
the
scenario
of
a
serial
meeting
and
it
becomes
difficult
and
again,
I
know,
there's
a
number
of
commissioners
on
this
body,
but
that
can
make
it
harder
to
keep
track,
and
so
there
is
an
exception
under
the
brown
act
for
standing
committees
and
ad-hoc
committees
that
are
composed
of
less
than
a
majority
of
the
members
of
the
commission
and
and
if
there
is
going
to
be
official
action.
Where
say
you
know
these
five
commissioners
are
going
to
focus
on
this
particular
issue.
O
Then
it
would
be
permitted
for
them
to
talk
among
themselves
about
that
issue.
We're
concerned
about
them
going
outside
of
that
group
outside
of
a
public
meeting,
so
wherever
possible,
I'd
minimize
that
type
of
communication
or
if
you
are
going
to
engage
in
that
type
of
communication
with
another
commissioner,
be
mindful
about
who
they
might
be
speaking
with,
and
so
you
or
avoid
hitting
the
reply.
All
button
things
like
that,
so
that
you're
we
don't
have
issues
with
serial
meetings.
O
To
answer
your
your
first
question
about
what
the
commission
should
how
the
commission,
commissioner,
should
respond,
you
know
I
I
I
don't
want
to
punt
the
issue,
but
it
is
largely
up
to
the
commission
itself
at
this
point.
Under
council
policy
0-4,
there
are
limitations
for
members
of
other
boards
and
commissions
about
when
speaking
on
behalf
of
themselves,
they
should
include
a
disclaimer
to
that
effect
that
this
is
not
the
view
of
the
entire
body,
unless
that
is
something
that
the
body
has
authorized.
That
particular
commissioner
to
speak
on.
O
O
At
this
point,
my
suggestion,
just
because
I've
seen
it
become
an
issue
in
other
bodies,
is
if
you
are
going
to
respond
to
a
member
of
the
public
about
a
personal
opinion
or
something
that
may
make
it
clear
in
the
response
that
that
it
is
that
commissioner's
personal
opinion
and
not
the
opinion
of
the
commission
itself
or
that
or
that
it
something
that
hasn't
been
determined.
Yet
but
again,
there
aren't
any
limitations
at
this
point
on
how
everybody
should
respond,
and
so
that
that
answers.
D
You
questions
from
commissioners.
If
you
want
to
raise
your
hand
I'll.
G
Start
I
saw
magnolia
earlier,
I
don't
know
magnolia
if
that
was
for
this
section,
but
I
have
you
first
in
our
stack
here.
P
Thank
you
so
much
just
to
follow
up
frederick
on
what
you
were
saying,
commissioner
ferrer,
my
understanding
from
tony
tabor,
the
city
clerk
is.
We
are
not
supposed
to
give
any
opinions
at
all
or
signal
how
we
might
vote
on
a
certain
topic.
So
I'm
not
sure
how
that
squares
with
what
our
good
city
attorney
was
saying
regarding
it's
fairly
open
on
how
we
respond.
As
long
as
we're
saying
it's
our
opinion,
it
seems
still
a
little
bit
blurry.
O
Yeah,
I'm
sorry
sorry,
but
I
was
probably
an
artful
about
my
use
of
the
term
opinion.
Yes,
you
don't
want
to.
If
there
is
something
pending
before
the
body
about
a
particular
item,
it
is
best
to
avoid
saying
how
you're
going
to
vote
on
a
particular
issue,
because
again
that
could
run
afoul
of
the
brown
act.
If
somebody
knows
how
you're
going
to
vote
that
can
be
disseminated
publicly
and
then
other
members
doing
the
same
thing
and
before
you
know
it,
you've
got
a
serial
meeting.
That's
that's
going
on!
O
You
know.
If,
if
people
are
concerned
about
how
to
deal
with
the
public,
you
know,
one
of
the
best
things
to
do
is
is
either
refer
them
to
come
and
speak
at
the
public
meeting.
Ask
that
the
clerk
put
the
question
either
on
a
on
the
agenda
in
a
form
of
a
public
record
or
something
like
that,
and
then
the
the
issue
could
be
discussed
in
an
open
and
public
meeting.
O
On
our
you
know,
I
I
again,
I
there
it's
I'll
defer
to
the
best
judgment
of
the
commissioner.
If
you
want
to
talk
about
a
particular
issue,
that's
coming
in
the
city,
for
example,
but
again
the
suggestion
would
be
to
include
a
disclaimer
that
that's
a
personal,
a
personal
statement
and
not
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
commission
itself.
But
again,
yes,
the
city
clerk
is
correct
and
I
apologize
for
using
the
term
opinion.
I'm
glad
you
brought
it
up
the
way.
We
don't
want
you
being.
O
G
And
I
have
jose
and
then
jeremy,
I
don't
know
if
you
had
your
hand
up
either
but
jose
go
ahead.
A
O
E
You
have
anything,
and
I've
heard
my
camera
is
wonky,
so
I'm
going
to
stay
off
camera.
If
you
have
anything
that
you
want
that
you
receive
from
the
public
that
you
want
to
share
with
everybody
on
the
commission,
you
just
send
it
to
me
or
to
megan
and
we'll
post
it
as
a
letter
from
the
public
to
the
next
agenda.
G
Thank
you
before
we
go
to
ellie
jeremy
baruch.
Did
you
have
your
hand
up
earlier?
G
F
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
presentation
to
to
mark
and
and
to
be
quirk
as
well
for
your
answers
so
just
to
confirm,
following
up
on
on
commissioner
siegel's
question,
so
we
legally
it's
within
the
confines
of
the
brown
act,
to
express
an
opinion
say
how
we're
going
to
vote
on
a
certain
issue
to
a
member
of
the
public.
But
if
we
do
so,
we
take
the
risk
that
that
information
would
then
be
disseminated
more
broadly
and
cause
a
brown
act.
O
That
that's
that's
the
concern
as
well,
that
by
and
large
the
disclosure
of
how
you're
going
to
vote
on
a
particular
item
would
lead
to
a
serial
meeting
and
and
therefore
brown
act,
violation.
F
Okay,
thank
you
and
then
sort
of
parallel
question
for
communication
with
other
commissioners.
O
Correct
and
in
this
particular
instance,
you
have
a
somebody,
who's
resigned
so
that
threshold
might
be
lower,
and
so
again
it's
very
important
to
keep
in
mind
who
you're
having
communications
with
and
discussing
things
with,
and
you
know,
our
best
practices
is
to
you
know,
avoid
having
those
type
of
discussions
outside
of
a
public
meeting.
O
That
way
you
don't
ever
run
into
that
issue
or
have
that
concern
and
the
the
commission,
as
as
I,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
can
follow
other
regulations
or
rules
that
are
established
for
other
boards
and
commissions
for
the
city
as
well,
either
in
council
policy,
0-4
or
or
that
have
been
set
forth
in
resolution,
and
so
to
the
extent
that
those
laws
are
agreed
to
or
enacted
by
this
body.
In
some
sense,
then,
then
that
would
apply.
F
I'm
sorry
just
one
more,
you
talked
about
sort
of
the
subject
matter:
jurisdiction
of
the
commission,
particularly
in
relation
to
social
media
communication-
and
I
imagine
this
is
a
not
a
super
clear
cut
one
to
answer.
But
how
do
we
understand
the
bounds
of
the
subject
matter?
Jurisdiction,
given
that
city
charters
can
touch
a
lot
of
topics.
O
Yeah
you've
raised
a
good
you've
raised
a
good
point.
I
think,
on
the
on
one
end,
if
somebody
post
a
picture
of
their
pet
or
something
like
that,
you're
free
to
comment
on
on
that
pet,
given
the
broad
grant
of
responsibilities
that
the
council
has
given
to
this
body
in
terms
of
looking
at
the
charter,
you
do
need
to
be
mindful.
If
there's
going
to
be
something
that
you
could
think,
could
conceivably
govern
by
the
charter.
O
G
Okay,
a
question
from
lund.
L
Thank
you,
hey
mark,
I
I
know
you
mentioned
it
earlier,
but
I
think
it
bears
coming
from
you
again.
This
commission
doesn't
have
any
mining
authority,
that's
right.
O
Not
presently,
the
the
only
thing
that's
binding
so
to
speak
is
the
resolution
that
the
council
has
put
forward
at
this
point,
of
course,
and
then
the
legal
parameters
under
the
under
the
law,
brown
act,
public
records,
act,
sunshine,
resolution
setting
forth
the
timings
for
agendas,
and
things
like
that.
L
Right
so
our
objective
as
a
commission
is
to
discuss
the
the
three
or
four
questions
outlined
by
the
council
and
and
write
two
reports.
One
majority
opinion
one
minority
opinion
to
send
their
way.
That's
right!
That's
correct!.
O
Good
good
question:
the
council
will
will
review
those
reports
and
we'll
either
if
it's
going
to
go
forward
with
it
I
mean
again,
it
all
depends
on
what
this
body
recommends.
If
they
are
right,
if
you
do
recommend
an
amendment
to
the
charter,
then
the
council
will-
and
the
council
goes
along
with
that
recommendation.
O
It
will
put
forward
a
ballot
measure
calling
an
election
and
it
could
be
in
june
of
2022.
It
could
be
november
of
2022.
It
could
be
a
special
election,
but
then
put
it
on
the
ballot
for
the
voters
to
decide.
L
O
L
Okay,
thank
you.
I
just
want
to
use
the
rest
of
my
time
just
real
quickly
to
it
was
mentioned
earlier.
I
think
in
another
meeting
by
I
think,
a
public
commenter
that
what
we're
doing
here
is
akin
to
a
constitutional
convention
and
and
I've
made
that
same
analogy
before,
but
I
think
you
know,
in
light
of
what
mark
is
telling
us
and
upon
further
reflection,
I
think
it's
more
accurate
to
say
what
we're
doing
as
the
23
of
us
at
22
of
us
is
writing
the
federalist
papers.
L
So
we're
really
like
hashing
out
like
what.
What
is
the
best
course
forward,
and
it's
not
binding.
It's
just
ideas.
It's
just
fiercely
outlining
pearl,
thoughtful
opinions
and
then
letting
that
be
put
forth
for
the
council
to
decide,
and
even
the
council
doesn't
decide
because
they
send
it
to
the
voters
and
ultimately,
the
voters
decide.
So
I
just
wanted
to.
G
I'd
like
to
just
pause
on
editorialization
right
now
and
then
limit
it
to
questions,
because
we
do
have
both
the
city,
council,
city,
clerk
and
additional
guests
all
right
yeah.
Thank
you.
Any
final
questions.
Before
we
move
on
to
the
city,
clerk's
presentation.
G
Fantastic
thank
you
mark
and
we
will
never
really
have
more
questions
for
you.
So
please
stick
around
today
and
throughout
the
process
back
to
you,
chair
ferreira,
so.
D
We're
now
gonna
hit
from
the
city
clerk
and
a
lot
of
questions
have
also
come
up.
That
aren't
the
legal
questions,
but
are
really
procedural
questions,
and
so
we've
asked
the
city
clerk
to
outline
your
responses
to
some
of
the
questions
that
have
been
asked
and,
as
I
said,
I've
also
asked
her
to
walk
through
the
process
for
accessing
information
directly
from
the
public
to
understand
our
agendas,
the
handouts
and
so
forth.
So
I'm
going
to
turn
over
our
city
clerk.
E
Hi,
I
just
I
just
checked
my
my
camera
and
I'm
still
upside
down.
I
don't
know
why
that's
happened
so
I'm
gonna
stay
off
video,
so
I
have
a
few
things.
This
shouldn't
take
too
long.
First
of
all,
we
are
now
being
broadcast,
live
on
youtube
and
on
cable
channel
26.,
which
is
very
exciting,
I'm
very
grateful
to
craig
in
the
city
manager's
office,
who
agreed
to
do
that
and
he's
the
one
doing
all
the
work
right
now.
E
Another
question
that
people
have
have
brought
up
or
another
issue
is
having
interpretation
at
meetings.
We
will
definitely
have
interpretation
at
some
of
the
public
hearings.
We
don't
have
it
at
every
meeting,
because
it's
about
400
per
hour
to
have
two
languages
at
a
meeting
and
we
are
just
not
budgeted
in
the
city.
We
don't
have
it
for
interpretation
for
every
meetings.
I,
like
tomorrow's
city
council
meeting.
We
have
interpretation
because
we
know
we've
got
some
topics
that
we're
gonna
need
that
service.
E
For
so
we
will
have
public
hearings
for
this
meeting.
That
will
be
noticed
in
multiple
languages,
but
it
won't
be
every
single
meeting
and
then
we've
also
been
asked
about
translation
of
the
agendas
and
attachments
the
agendas
and
attachments
when
I've,
because
I've
asked
this
question
before
it's
seven
to
ten
days
to
get
translations,
we
post
one
week
ahead.
I
would
not
have
translations
done
until
the
meeting
is
over.
E
We
will
have
some
documentation
that
will
be
translated
for
outreach,
that
we're
working
on
to
make
sure
so.
Notices
for
interpreted
meetings
will
be
translated
and
put
into
multi-language
newspapers,
but
we
won't
have
it
for
every
agenda.
We
just
don't
have
the
time
and
then
it's
also
pretty
expensive.
E
We
have
it's
not
the
same
as
translating
a
letter,
because
we
have
a
lot
of
technical
language.
It
takes
them
longer
because
they're,
not
common,
commonly
translated
items
in
city
government,
we're
moving
on
to
resources
at
hand.
We
have
staff
available
right
now
we
have
megan
roach,
who
is
in
the
meeting
right
now
as
the
co-host.
E
We
also
have
some
interns-
and
I
have
one
intern
present
today-
karina
mejia
she's
present
as
well
today's
her
first
day
as
an
intern,
and
she
is
your
intern.
So
when
we
need
to
have
research
done
in
addition
to
megan,
we'll
we'll
have
karina,
and
we
have
a
couple
other
interns
who
are
also
interested.
So
we're
going
to
have
some
staff
available
to
you,
which
is
very
exciting.
E
You
have
some
access
to
other
city
staff.
My
staff
right
now
is
just
really
really
busy
we're
we're,
not
an
office
that
can
ever
postpone
items.
You
know
we.
We
have
agendas
and
public
records,
requests
and
bills
to
pay.
So
all
of
our
our
stuff,
even
during
coven,
goes
on
as
if
cova
doesn't
exist.
So
most
of
my
staff
is
quite
busy,
but
you
have
the
interns,
I'm
very
excited
the
college,
students
and
graduate
students.
So
I
think
the
quality
of
research
will
be
good.
E
Megan
pulled
up
a
bunch
of
city
charters
that
we're
gonna
be
posting
to
the
website
this
week,
which
goes
into
my
next
thing:
a
description
of
the
website
and
posting
practices.
E
So
I'm
gonna
do
a
quick
share
screen.
There's
also
a
video
that's
been
posted
to
youtube.
If
you
search
for
city,
san
jose
city
clerk,
I
posted
a
little
it's
about
seven
and
a
half
minute
tutorial
on
how
to
find
things
on
the
agenda.
E
It
takes
you
to
this,
so
this
page
has
all
of
the
agendas
for
the
upcoming
week
and
then
it
also
has
this
section
down
here.
So
if
you
want
to
see
charter
review
commission,
you
would
select
that
notice.
Nothing
shows
up
because
I've
got
this
time
frame
set
for
2020.,
so
move
it
to
2021
and
here's
where
you
can
see
all
of
the
meetings.
E
For
if
you
go
to
the
city,
clerk's
web
page
and
we've
click
on
charter
view,
I
did
not
put
you
under
boards
and
commissions,
so
you
wouldn't
have
to.
Like
click.
Click.
Click.
Click
click
to
get
to
you.
I
put
you
like
right
up
here
on
the
side.
E
So
if
you
click
on
charter
review,
commission
there's
two
pages:
there's
documents
in
the
main
page
documents
are
also
linked
down.
Here
we
tried
to
make
it
as
easy
as
possible
for
people
it
has
the
meeting
day
and
time
a
direct
link
to
the
agendas,
a
link
to
youtube,
letting
people
know
about
channel
26
the
zoom
link,
and
then
the
documents
are
here-
and
this
is
where
we're
gonna
put
up
some
of
the
research
that
we've
been
doing
so.
E
Here's
the
1985
historical
documents,
the
directions
from
council
we'll
be
putting
the
work
plan
up
on
this
page
as
well.
We
had
some
issues
with
website
permissions
last
week,
so
just
trying
to
get
megan
trained
in
the
webpage,
but
we
needed
to
get
her
access.
So
there's
a
slight
delay
after
this
week
everything
should
be
going
up
the
same
week.
You
need
them
so
they'll
first
go
to
the
agenda
when
they're
done
with
the
agenda,
we'll
pop
them
over
here
onto
documents.
E
Yes,
well,
I'm
working
with
granicus
to
see
if
there
is
they,
they
have
a
couple
products.
So
we're
we're
looking
at
those
products
that
we'll
be
able
to
put
documents
up
and
have
people
comment
on
them
instead
of
just
static
documents,
I'm
so
I'm
still
working
on
that.
That
would
be
very
exciting.
We
do
have
an
e-comment
feature
where
people
can
comment
on
agenda
items
more
like
a
forum,
but
we.
What
we
really
want
is
something
really
interactive
for
people,
so
I'll
have
an
update
for
that
at
the
next
meeting.
E
D
Thank
you
for
your
responses
to
our
questions.
Questions
for
the
city.
F
Thank
you.
I
was
wondering
if
you
could
share
a
little
bit
more
about
the
requirement
to
have
materials
posted
a
week
in
advance,
since
it
seems
like
it's,
you
know
presenting
some
challenges
in
terms
of
our
ability
to
be
nimble
and
also
our
ability
to
have
materials
for
commissioners
in
the
public
to
see
for
the
meeting.
I
just
wanted
to
understand
more
about
the
nature
of
that.
E
E
The
main
thing
that
needs
to
be
posted
is
the
action,
the
language.
So
you
know
action
is
going
to
be
taken.
E
What
like
the
current
language
I
have
for
today
did
not
have
did
not
indicate
the
language
the
posted
language
did
not
indicate.
We
were
going
to
have
a
motion
on
the
work
plan.
The
working
agenda
that
that
lawrence
and
frederick
were
they
had
put
it
on
theirs,
but
by
then
it
was
too
late
for
me
to
post.
Any
action
has
to
be
posted
a
week
ahead.
Ideally
all
of
the
documents
should
be
posted
a
week
ahead,
but
sometimes
other
letters
public
get
posted
afterwards.
E
Supplemental
memos
get
posted
after
that
day,
like
if
you
go
to
a
city
council
agenda.
The
city
council
agenda
is
posted
10
days
ahead,
but
in
that
10
day
period
we'll
get
a
supplemental
memo
from
staff,
because
additional
information
has
come
about.
We
get
letters
from
the
public,
we
get
letters
from
the
city
council.
All
of
those
can
be
posted
after
that
initial
posting,
but
that
week
ahead
should
have,
if
you're
going
to
take
an
action
on
something
really
should
be
there.
E
E
G
On
our
part,
you
know
fred
and
I
now
meet
on
a
weekly
basis
and
we're
still
getting
our
rhythm
down
to
make
sure
we
can
be
responsive
to
your
requests,
design
the
right
agendas
and
then
get
the
speakers
and
and
get
the
materials.
So
there's
yeah
we're
we're
getting
our
or
our
machinery
well
tuned
here.
So
thank
you
for
your
patience
as
we
get
there
and
it
is
our
goal
and
commitment
to
make
sure
as
much
as
we
can
get
posted
a
week
in
advance
for
you,
review
has
happened.
G
H
Better,
it
is
thank
you,
okay,
perfect
yeah.
My
question
is
along
those
lines
of
having
things
show
up
on
the
agenda.
H
E
Well,
we
ask
people
like
if
you
want
to
send
something
last
minute
we
do
ask
that
it
be
sent
to
us
by
9am
the
day
of
the
meeting,
to
give
us
time
to
react
and
get
it
posted,
but
we
can
post
things
later,
but
if
you
want
something
agenda,
agendas
like
you're
like
I
want
to
talk
about
this
item
and
I
want
us
to
be
able
to
take
action
on
it.
E
E
I
think
I
would
like
people
to
see
you
can
send
it
to
us
anytime,
up
until
nine
o'clock
the
day
of
the
meeting
to
guarantee
we,
if
we
attach
it
anything
after
9am
might
get
attached,
but
it
might
just
have
to
be
distributed
at
the
meeting
like
with
the
share
screen,
I
feel
like
much
to
answer
that.
Sorry.
H
No
thank
you.
I
think
I
think,
having
an
understanding
of
when
things
will
get
linked
and
show
up
either
in
the
parts
of
the
agenda
that
you
mentioned
or
under
recommendation
attachments
is,
is
good
to
know
so
then
folks
would
would
be
able
to
you
know,
have
it
in
so
then,
in
the
first
announcement
or
in
the
first
blast,
it's
already
there.
So
thank
you
tony.
We
appreciate
it.
G
And
commissioner
segura.
E
I
just
really
kind
of
want
to
know.
I
I
mean
I
get,
you
know,
translation
and
I
you
know
I
get
all
of
that,
but
I
I
just
I
just
have
to
say
it
makes
me
pretty
concerned
that
if
you
don't
speak
english,
you
can't
participate.
It's
so
limited.
Do
we
know
I
mean,
what's
the
percentage
of
time
that
you
guys
will
do
that
for
for
people
who
can't
access
in
english?
E
I
can't
tell
you
the
percentage
of
time
we're
definitely
doing.
We
will
absolutely
100.
Have
public
hearings
before
you
approve
and
send
to
council
and
we'll
look
at
at
the
work
plan
topics,
and
if
it's
one,
where
we're
getting
a
lot
of
interest,
then
we
we
can
request
it.
But
it's
really
a
meeting
by
meeting
basis.
That's
how
we
do
it
for
city
council,
I'm
not
always
the
one
who
even
makes
the
call.
Sometimes
I
don't
know
something
is
a
topic
I
do
rely.
E
So
if
you
look
at
a
topic
you're
like
oh,
like
this
one's
really
really
controversial,
we
really
need
to
have
it
you
just
let
me
know
sometimes
when
we're
having
meetings
like
this,
where
we're
like
our
these
to
me
are
our
place.
Setting
meetings
as
we
get
ready
to
to
talk
about
the
meat
of
your
your
topics.
E
I
don't
know
if
it's,
if
that
has
as
much
value
I
have
to
look
at
you
know,
I'm
spending
taxpayer
dollars.
I
try
to
spend
them
where
I'll
have
the
best
result
so
you're.
I
can't
tell
you
how
many,
but
you're
definitely
going
to
have
that.
C
N
E
Yes,
they
have
full
access.
I
think
megan
downloaded
10
or
11
charters.
Last
week
we're
going
to
put
those
pdfs
up
this
week,
I'm
going
to
show
her
how
to
update
the
web.
C
Okay,
great
and
then
my
other
question
is
related
to
any
research
articles.
Other
kind
of
news
reports
that
the
commission
might
rely
on
over
time
with
those
I'm
hoping
those
also
would
be
available
to
the
public.
Would
that
be
on
that
website
as
well
or
that
be
part
of
the
agenda.
E
We're
going
to
put
them
they'll,
be
both
if
you're
going
to
talk
about
them
at
the
meeting.
They
have
to
be
attached
to
the
agenda,
but
we're
also
going
to
put
them
here,
it's
easier
for
us
to
find
it
it's
easier
for
you.
I
know
you
guys
are
all
going
to
want
to
do
kind
of
a
lot
of
reading
on
your
own
to
prepare
for
meetings,
because
you
have
such
a
short
time
frame
to
do
so
much
work.
So
it's
all
going
to
be
on
that
website.
E
So
members
of
the
public
can
go
there
and
look
as
well
I'll,
probably
keep
adding
tabs
under
charter
view
like
right
now.
I
just
have
charter
review
commission
documents.
I
might
add
one:
that's
like
research!
So
it's
you
know.
This
is
just
research
documents
we'll
keep
it
organized.
I
try
to
keep
it
simple.
I
don't
want
people
to
have
to
click
tab
after
tab
after
tab.
I
try
to
keep
things
easy
for
everyone,
but
yeah
we're
gonna
we're
making
this
a
landing
page
for
everyone.
Okay,.
G
All
right,
thank
you,
tony
thank
you
all
pass
it
back
to
the
chair.
G
D
Them
thank
you
both
to
our
city,
clerk
and
the
city
attorney
and,
as
you
continue
to
have
questions,
please
make
sure
that
we
hear
them
so
that
we
can
all.
I
think,
it's
great
for
everyone
to
hear
kind
of
the
same
thing.
At
the
same
time,
I
wanted
to
do
a
couple
of
things
as
well.
Just
to
add
to
this
this
discussion
of
the
public
engagement
piece,
we're
looking
at
how
do
we
notice
this
meeting
in
other
ways,
especially
those
public
hearings
that
are
translated?
D
How
are
we
going
to
get
the
word
out
on
those
noticing,
because
I
look
at
it
as
kind
of
three
parts
you
know
who
who
knows
about
the
meeting?
What's
the
meeting
and
a
half
what's
happening
at
the
meeting
and
then
what
happens
after
the
meeting?
So
if
I'm
thinking
about
civic
engagement,
it's
making
sure
that
the
right
folks
are
hearing
giving
us
input
whether
they're
giving
us
input
whether
we
have
you
know
folks
to
to
bring
it
in
and
then
what
do
we
do
with
it?
When
we
hear
it
who
needs
to
hear
it?
D
How
do
we
want
to
get
input
around
it?
What's
our
discussion
and
questions
about
and
then
what
happens
afterwards,
and
so
one
of
the
questions
that
has
come
up
from
commissioners
has
been
around.
How
do
we
address
the
public
and
we've
I've
I've
taken
the
stand
that
we
don't
directly
redress
the
public
in
their
public
comments.
D
Again,
you
can,
through
the
chair,
ask
a
question.
I'll
give
you
an
example,
the
junior
you
know
somebody's
saying:
oh
we're
studying
this
as
well.
You
know
a
commissioner
could
say.
Mr
chair,
you
know
that'd
be
interesting
for
us
to
look
at
that
right.
I
can
give
direction
to
the
city
clerk
that
that's
something
we
should
do
if
something's
very
specific
that
you
think
is
important
for
us
to
take
action
on.
D
I
certainly
would
I'd
be
open
to
hearing
that
piece,
but
just
to
be
just
to
be
clear,
we
realized
listen
to
all
public
input
and
we
have
a
discussion
about
all
of
it.
So
it's
not
like
you
have
to
tell
us
that
before
we're
going
to
look
at
it,
it's
going
to
be
like
taken
into
consideration
on
all
these
issues
and
the
public
will
receive
responses
to
their
comments
at
the
following
meeting.
D
If
there's
something
specific
that
was
asked
and
the
staff
can,
that
needs
to
research
it
something
like
that,
we
might
come
back
at
the
next
meeting.
Usually
in
my
comments
or
in
the
clerk's
comments,
there
was
a
question
about
this
last
week.
We
researched
it
and
here's
the
response
so
not
necessarily
the
next
week,
but
the
next
meeting,
and
so
we're
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
are
responsive
to
the
public
not
to
have
discussion.
D
That's
not
at
the
appropriate
time
to
do
that,
but
to
really
be
able
to
be
responsive
over
time,
and
I
think
the
last
thing
I
would
say
just
in
terms
of
how
we're
trying
to
formulate
this
and
put
this
together
is
that
we
would
like
to
be
able
to
after
tonight
kind
of
have
a
plan,
as
you
know,
kind
of
a
different
organizational
plan
that
we
add
to
our
work
plan.
D
So
in
the
original
draft
of
the
work
plan,
that
was
another
challenge
I
think
I've
I've
learned
is
everything
needs
to
get
marked
draft
until
we
actually
take
action
on
it
or
or
we
agree
that
this
is
the
document
we
want
to
use
for
now.
I
did
not
mean
to
when
I
was
setting
up
the
calendar
and
just
kind
of
showing
you
examples
of
what
we
could
do.
I
I
should
have
marked
that
draft
so
that
people
would
not
think.
Oh
on
that
day,
this
is
going
to
happen.
D
I
was
trying
to
give
you
a
draft
of
what
we
could
do
in
a
six-month
period
in
this
kind
of
a
work
plan,
but
my
error
was:
I
didn't,
mark
the
whole
thing
draft
so
that
we
could
just
really
have
a
conversation
about
it
and
we'll
be
bringing
back
the
work
plan
next
meeting
to
be
able
to
say.
Okay,
let's
add
in
the
civic
engagement
piece,
the
original
work
plan
I
had
set
up.
D
I
think
four
to
six
public
hearings,
and
I
know
that,
there's
more
than
more
after
tonight,
we'll
be
able
to
decide
what
are
other
kinds
of
things
that
we
want
to
see
in
the
plan.
So
you'll
get
the
new
draft
of
the
work
plan,
including
civic
engagement,
ideas
or
or
practices
that
you'd
like
to
see
in
that
plan
for
us
to
discuss
at
our
next
meeting.
I
do
want
to
underline
the
timeline
issues.
D
We
get
our
notes
back
from
our
meetings
in
two
days,
which
is
pretty
fast
and
then
lawrence
and
I
meet
about
them,
and
then
we
start
formulating
the
agenda
at
that
point
so
that
once
we
get
it
from
the
clerk
we
can
amend
it
so
that
it
can
get
posted
on
monday.
So
that's
a
very
short
amount
of
time
for
us
to
turn
around
this
meeting,
get
ready
for
the
next
meeting
and
have
all
the
documents.
D
If
you
wanted
to
see
guests
and
so
forth,
being
able
to
plan
for
that
invite
folks
get
all
those
pieces
together.
The
timelines
are
very
tight.
So
I
appreciate,
as
lauren
said,
your
patience
and
as
we're
trying
to
get
this
feed
right
and
get
it
in
a
space
that
makes
sense
to
all
of
us.
I
do
appreciate
your
patience
as
well,
because
we're
really
trying
to
get
this
right
and,
as
I
say,
we
really
want
to
act
like
a
model
commission
on
public
engagement.
G
If
I
yeah,
so
I'm
wondering
if
we
want
to
just
one
of
the
things
that
we
wanted
to
do
was
to
to
to
the
point
of
the
work
plan
is
to
get
a
more
of
a
list
of
the
topics
that
you
want
to
hear
about
and
then
leave
time
for
the
public
to
make
comment
on
those
topics,
as
some
of
the
commissioners
have
have
requested
so
to
meet
that
turnaround
time
and
to
post
within
a
week.
G
Well,
we'll
have
some
time,
but
we
wanted
to
start
to
get
a
list
of
potential
study
topics
in
addition
to
what
we've
already
suggested
from
you
now
and
give
you
time
to
think
about
it
and
collect
additional
input
from
the
public
and
then
present
it
to
make
a
final
decision
to
inform
the
the
work
plan.
The
next
time
we
meet
so
fred,
I'm
wondering
if
maybe
we
could
do
a
quick
round
table
to
to
get
thoughts.
I'll
I'll
do.
A
Sorry,
a
quick
question
on
procedure.
I
like
the
idea
of
being
able
to
react
to
sorry,
I'm
echoing,
to
react
to
the
public
comment
that
we
would
like
to
follow
up
on.
Would
you
like
us
to
do
that
to
put
our
hands
up
immediately
after
that
person
has
spoken,
or
would
you
rather
we
save
that
till
the
end
of
the
public
comments
and
then
address
the
chair.
D
I
think
it'd
be
easier
if
we
just
do
it
at
the
end
of
public
comments,
so
you
listen
to
the
whole
thing
and
then
do
the
follow-up.
If
there's
something
specific
that
you
want
us
to
make
sure
we
heard
again
feel
free
not
to
say
every
single
time
that
oh
boy,
we
should
talk
about
this,
because
those
are
things
that
we
should
be
able
we're
listening
to
all
public
comment,
including
the
letters
and
tonight
we
had
a
speaker
who
also
sent
sent
us
a
letter.
P
Thank
you,
commissioner
ferrer.
A
topic
that
I
think
should
be
addressed
is
one
that's
come
up
in
comments
throughout
the
short
life
so
far
of
this
commission,
and
that
is
a
third
alternative
to
a
government
form.
So
people
have
mentioned
it,
but
they
haven't
been
specific
and
no
one
has
sent
us
anything.
So
I
would
just
encourage
the
chair
when
the
chair
hears
public
comment
about
this
commission
being
open
to
a
form
of
government
other
than
strong
mayor
or
weak
mayor.
P
Sorry
to
use
those
terms
if,
if,
if
commissioner
fair,
if
you
could
ask
them
to
send
us
anything
that
they
think
we
should
actually
look
at
and,
alternatively,
if
perhaps
lawrence
or
whoever
is
doing
the
research,
if
they
could
possibly
include
a
couple
of
alternative
forms,
so
that
the
members
of
the
public
who
keep
bringing
this
up,
who
who
are
attending,
who
do
want,
this
topic
heard,
could
feel
heard.
That
would
be
something
I
would
add
great.
D
Idea,
thank
you.
Jeremy
avila.
A
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
apologize
to
my
colleagues
into
the
chair,
but
I
I've
received
an
message
regarding
an
urgent
matter
that
I
need
to
excuse
myself,
for
so
I
will
try
to
join
as
quickly
as
possible,
but
I
wanted
to
offer
my
apologies
to
my
colleagues
and
let
you
know
so
that
you
don't
wonder
why
I
just
disappeared.
D
Hope:
everything's,
okay,
mr
johnson
vice
chair
johnson,.
A
Chair
another
thing
that
I
noticed
the
work
plan
didn't
include
was
campaign,
finance
reform
and
I
was
wondering,
if
was
there
a
reason
for
that
omission,
and
can
we
include
it
in
the
work
plan.
F
Elizabeth
un
unmute
myself
there
yeah
I'd
like
to
really
have
a
kind
of
a
little
in-depth
discussion
about
the
history
of
this.
A
Particular
issue
and
the
formation
of
the
commission.
I
think
it
will
really
help
guide
us
as
we
go
forward.
A
This
us
charter
review
and
the
issues
regarding
strong
mayor
and
mayor
council.
All
of
this
is.
F
G
Intended
process
here
is
to
to
collect
an
initial
list
from
you
all
to
get
the
the
gears
turning
as
far
as
ideas
to
compile
that
list
and
post
it
publicly
and
accept
within
the
next
three
to
four
days,
other
ideas
from
the
public.
G
So
this
is
also
an
invitation
to
the
public
to
send
topics
to
the
city
clerk,
and
then
we
would
post
a
final
list
of
those
study
session
topics
and
then
do
some
kind
of
straw
poll
to
or
discussion
at
our
next
meeting
to
really
refine
that
list
and
inform
a
more
specific
work
plan
and
inform
us
about
what
additional
speakers
and
or
research
we
need
to
do,
and
we've
heard
that
you
all
wanted
to
to
talk
a
bit
more
about
the
topics
to
be
discussed.
G
So
this
is
the
the
way
we're
going
to
do
that.
This
does
not
need
to
be
a
finalist
if
you
have
additional
thoughts
that
come
up,
we'd
love
to
hear
them,
but
just
since
we
had
a
couple
minutes
before
our
two
speakers
joined
us,
we
thought
would
start
now
they're
here.
So
I
would
encourage
us
to
do
just
a
quick
share
out.
G
Any
topics
just
off
the
top
of
your
head,
try
to
minimize
editorialization
just-
would
love
to
hear
what
you
want
to
hear
more
about
as
a
way
to
again
start
that
process.
Is
that
clear?
I'm.
F
Sorry,
just
very
quickly
as
a
follow-up
on
that.
My
understanding,
based
on
our
last
meeting,
is
that
we
were
going
to
spend
phase
one
making
sure
that
we
had
sort
of
a
thorough
exploration
of
potential
topics
and
make
sure
that
the
public
hearing
in
march
would
inform
the
topic.
So
so
you
mentioned
finalizing
this
list
at
the
next
meeting
and
then
I'm
trying
to
sort
of
mesh
that,
with
the
discussion
we
had
at
the
last
meeting.
D
So
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
just
get
the
list
of
topics
to
get
the
parameters
of
what
we're
talking
about.
Our
first
public
hearing
would
be
about
like
here's,
the
work,
we're
doing,
here's,
what
we're
thinking
and
to
get
that
as
well,
so
we're
having
two
opportunities
for
public
input.
It
can
be
this
week
publicly
just
to
get
us
the
parameters.
G
Yeah
and
I
will
add-
but
there
is
also
a
need
for
us
to
really
understand
where
the
the
topics
of
greatest
interest
among
the
commissioners
are
as
soon
as
possible,
so
that
we
can
get
ahead
of
this
of
this
curve
that
we're
behind
as
far
as
getting
agendas
out
and
getting
speakers
scheduled
so
there'll
be
additional
time
for,
and
opportunities
for
public
input.
But
we
just
wanted
to
get
this
process
started
now.
I
saw.
H
Since
our
guests
have
arrived
again
reece
barroso,
since
our
guests
have
arrived,
I
can
I
can
wait
till
we
get
more
time
afterwards.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Any.
D
D
Great
and
I
see
both
of
them
here-
awesome
all
right,
so
I
wanted
to
introduce
our
two
guests
this
evening
and
long-term
colleagues
that
I
really
appreciate
their
kind
of
again
in
this
week
trying
to
get
scheduled
to
bring
them
in
tonight.
So
I
really
appreciate
them
joining
us
this
evening,
trying
to
really
spend
some
time
tonight
talking
about
what
does
civic
engagement
look
like
for
us?
How
do
we
keep
it
in
an
efficient
manner,
but
a
really
effective
tool?
And
what
are
the
tools
that
we
have
available
to
us?
D
But
listening
to
two
members
of
our
community,
both
have
been
engaged
in
civic
engagement
at
the
neighborhood,
as
well
as
the
city
policy
level
for
many
years,
both
running
non-profit
agencies
and
organizations
that
are
truly
on
the
forefront
of
what's
going
on
in
our
community,
and
so
I've
asked
them
both
tonight
to
be
able
to
just
share
with
us
their
ideas,
their
thoughts,
their
recommendations,
I'm
kind
of
just
their
best
thinking
about
from
their
experience
working
in
this
city
on
public
policy
issues
similar
to
the
ones
that
we're
talking
about
as
a
commission
to
give
us
some
input
in
terms
of
their
thinking,
their
best
thinking
and
what
what
advice
they
may
give
us
and
then
we'll
have
some
time
for
questions
and
dialogue
with
them
as
well.
M
I
guess
I
can
go
first
and
then
camille
and
I
we
spent
a
lot
of
time
preparing
for
this,
so
we've
got
got
some
ideas
to
to
kind
of
throw
your
way,
but
we'll
we'll
bounce
off
of
each
other,
but
I
just
want
to
introduce
a
couple
of
kind
of
key
ideas
like
three
main
groupings.
There
are
probably
four
main
groupings,
as
we
think
about
community
engagement,
but
the
first
overarching
thing
is
to
think
about
this:
for
the
prism
of
power
and
who
has
power?
M
How
is
it
exercised
and
what
is
the
proper
use
or
exercise
of
power
in
the
city,
governance
model
and,
in
frankly,
from
our
perspective
from
a
community
engagement
perspective?
The
idea
is
to
look
at
this
primarily
through
the
lens
of
equity,
about
equity
in
terms
of
racial
equity.
In
terms
of
like
how
are
we
distributing
power
and
the
redistribution
of
power
to
make
sure
that
those
that
are
most
dramatically
impacted
by
public
policy
land
use,
budgetary
decisions
are
centered
in
a
way.
M
That
is
that
is
making
sure
that
that
the
impacts
of
these
decisions
are
the
most
deeply
and
brought
deeply
and
broadly
felt,
especially
by
those
that
are
struggling
the
most
in
our
community
in
our
society
and
have
borne
the
weight
of
decades
of
under
investment
and
particularly
decisions
that
that
bring
with
them
ramifications
of
of
systemic
racism
and
injustice
that
have
existed
for
a
really
long
time.
We
might
sometimes
say
well,
let's
just
look
at
where
we
stand
right
now
moving
forward
and
everything
needs
to
be
fair.
M
Well,
things
are
deeply
unfair
and
have
been
unfair
in
our
communities
for
a
long
time,
so
centering
equity
is
the
first
is
the
first
element
and
I'll
come
back
to
it
in
a
second.
The
second
thing
is
process.
There
are
process
changes
that
we
can
have.
That
can
happen
within
the
existing
architecture,
of
how
we
make
decisions
and
other
things
that
are
that
could
be
useful
and-
and
the
third
is
the
principle
of
lived
experience,
those
that
have
the
deepest
kind
of
lived
experience
can
be
helping
very
directly
to
be
shaping
types
of
experiences.
M
The
idea
is
that
if
you
want,
if
you're
going
to
make
a
decision,
that's
going
to
have
a
disproportionate
impact
on
certain
kind
of
communities,
you
have
to
be
able
to
make
sure
that
their
voices
are
are
sought
out
in
a
very
different
way.
Not
just
advertising
and
saying
come
to
city
hall
and
testify
at
this
at
in
this
environment.
M
That's
very
foreign
difficult
and
really
meant
to
be
creating
that
distance
between
those
in
power
and
those
without,
but
really
creating
a
different
kind
of
process,
where
those
that
are
impacted
are
consulted
in
a
deep
and
meaningful
way
by
community
partners
and
institutions
that
they
that
they
trust
and
you're
digging
into
those
kind
of
conversations
on
a
level
playing
field.
Not
having
people
testify
in
a
dispassionate,
like
scary
kind
of
kind
of
form,
it
needs
to
be
broken
down
in
ways
that
are
really
relevant
to
people's
lives.
So
that's
that's
one
element
that
can
happen.
M
I
know
camille
and,
and
they've
done.
Some
really
amazing
work
around
some
land
use
policies,
some
other
things.
They
can
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
second
bucket
kind
of
going
to
process
changes
are
ideas
like
when
we
have
traditional
mechanisms.
Commission
meetings,
like
council
meetings,
other
types
of
things:
how
do
you
make
these
things
more
relevant
to
individuals
if
you're
going
to
make
them
come
and
jump
through
these
hoops?
M
How
are
we
meeting
people
more
where
they're
at
language
access
is
still
terrible
in
the
city,
making
these
materials
and
resources
available
to
folks?
How
are
we
advertising
broadly
reaching
channels
deputizing,
a
different
community
trusted
partner
organizations
to
be
the
ones
being
able
to
ones
that
filter
that
information
for
important
public
policy
decisions,
making
sure
there's
a
real
opportunity
for
discussion
and
dialogue?
M
You
need
to
make
sure
that
that,
when
you
go
through
a
process,
you're
making
real
notifications
that
are
happening
to
people
around
of
documentation
around
if
you're
uploading
documents
for
the
for
the
public
to
be
able
to
see
how's
your
notification
system,
so
that
people
will
know
and
understand
that
that's
there
for
them
and
then,
most
importantly,
is
circling
back
with
decisions
that
have
been
made
in
a
lot
of
different
ways.
M
So
the
last
bucket
is
around
lived
experience,
and
this
idea
of
lived
experience
is
that
there
are
nodules
and
there
are
places
in
public
decision
making
where
you're
going
to
want
to
have
some
ongoing
constant.
You
know
source
of
information
and
trusted
resource,
and
that
means
like
being
able
to
deputize
a
group
of
folks
with
lived
experience
that
provide
advice.
M
One
thing
many
of
you
have
are
aware
of
the
the
health
and
racial
equity
task
force
that
that
that
city
council
member
garasco
helped
you
know
helped
orchestrate
and
and
supervisor
chavez
that
they
were
working
on.
One
of
the
recommendations
out
of
that
task
force
was
doing
something
like
seattle
has
for
a
coved
kind
of
response
task
course
that
includes
people
with
lived
experience.
M
They
run
a
committee
every
week
during
the
during
this
crisis,
that's
been
providing
input
in
terms
of
how
to
be
able
to
deliver
services
and
how
to
be
able
to
reach
out
to
community
and
those
kinds
of
things
and
we've
done
similar
type.
We've
invented
similar
types
of
programs,
but
it
doesn't
happen
at
that
same
frequency
where
decisions
are
on
vaccinations
or
testing
or
resources
or
support
those
kind
of
things
happen
and
we've
had
to
scan
those
up
and
we
developed
those
on
an
ad
hoc
basis.
M
The
institution
should
be
thinking
about
centering,
some
of
those
ideas
right
there
and,
and
then
one
last
one
last
point,
but
I
want
to
give
camille
like
the
like
the
the
four
in
terms
of
like,
where
were
some
of
these
ideas
and
where
they've
actually
come
to
fruition
through
the
work
of
somos
and
other
organizations.
I
Thanks
pancho
good
ever
good
evening,
everyone,
it's
good
to
see
so
many
friends
and
colleagues
on
here.
I
pancha
and
I
did
get
a
chance
to
check
in
before
this
meeting,
and
so
I
want
to
start
by
saying
that
the
the
general
buckets
that
he
shared
are
consistent
with
the
best
practices
that
we
as
an
organization
a
23
year
old
grassroots
organization,
have
followed,
I
think,
for
the
purposes
of
your
work.
I
If
I
can
share
some
very
specific
things
that
fall
within
those
buckets,
and
maybe
how
tactically
we've
tried
to
do
that
in
our
work.
To
give
you
give
you
all
some
things
to
think
about
is
really
segmenting
it
into
you
know.
So.
So
what
does
this
all
mean?
How
do
we
demonstrate
equity
and
power
shared
power?
I
And
what
is
you
know,
proper
channels
of
process,
so
along
the
lines
of
power,
really
making
sure
that
all
of
you
on
this
committee
acknowledge
that
you
all
are
privileged
to
be
in
this
space.
I
There
is
inherent
privilege
with
you
being
able
to
apply,
for
this
commission
see
to
sit
there
and
you
know
to
have
have
the
the
tech
technology
and
the
language
access
to
have
been
able
to
apply
right,
and
so
I
think,
that's
and
then
to
have
council
members,
appoint
you
so
being
able
to
acknowledge
that
and
then
thinking
from
your
privilege,
how
do
you
want
to
invite
people
in
is?
Is
my
first
point
of
advice.
I
The
second
piece
is
once
you
start
to
think
about
community
engagement
really
trying
to
figure
out.
So
what
are
we
trying
to
engage
the
community
for?
I
Is
it
because
we
want
broader
voices
and
broader
communication,
but
we're
kind
of
going
to
just
take
the
information
and
hold
it
there,
or
are
we
going
to
use
this
to
really
guide
you
in
your
decision
making,
I
think,
as
a
commission,
you
all
have
to
decide.
What
are
you
going
to
do
with
that
information
right?
I
think
far
too
often,
communities,
especially
highly
impacted
communities
by
everything,
get
asked
a
lot
to
weigh
in
on
what
they
think
and
feel
and
hear,
but
oftentimes.
I
Once
you
come
out
to
the
community
on
what
those
expectations
are,
if
it
is
input
for
input's
sake,
name
that,
but
if
this
is
really
going
to
shape
your
decision
making,
let
the
community
know
what
they
can
expect
from
you
in
terms
of
process
and
really
bringing
people
with
lived
experience
to
the
table,
creating
a
sense
of
belonging
in
a
space
right.
I
So
making
sure
people
have
information
ahead
of
time
going
to
their
trusted
allies
and
organizations
and
neighborhood
associations
to
kind
of
give
the
individuals
that
you
would
be
inviting
a
sense
of
what
is
the
agenda?
What
are
we
asking
of
them?
Is
there
space
to
kind
of
get
to
know
each
other
in
the
beginning,
before
we
just
kind
of
provide
testimonial
making
people
really
feel
like
they're.
I
A
part
of
this
space
is
is
another
really
critical
piece
and
if
you
see
leadership,
radiating
from
neighborhoods
or
from
people
with
lived
experience,
acknowledging
that
too,
whether
it's
you
know
just
by
way
of
general
thank
yous.
But
even
if
you
can,
you
know
stipending
people
who
are
showing
up
and
coming
to
spaces
beyond
their
their
work.
Life
is
really
important
to
acknowledge
too.
So
I
think,
if
there's
an
opportunity
to
do
something
like
that.
I
That's
another
important
piece-
and
I
think
you
know
taking
action
so
like
I
mentioned,
if
you're
being
clear
about
your
expectations
at
some
point,
you're
going
to
take
action,
you're
going
to
make
decisions,
it's
important
that
if
you
told
the
community
you're
going
to
reflect
their
input
in
those
decisions
being
able
to
show
them
specifically
the
tangible
action
that
you
took
or
the
tangible
decision
that
you
took
that
was
guided
by
that,
so
that
you
can
continue
so
that
we
can
actually
continue
to
build
trust
with
the
broader
community
in
this
kind
of
engagement.
I
If
it's
helpful
at
all,
somos
has
put
together
an
eight
point
philosophy
on
community
engagement.
Since
we
have
been
doing
this
kind
of
work
for
for
over
two
decades
now
and
so
fred,
I'm
happy
to
share
that
with
you
for
you
to
share
with
with
the
full
body,
but
a
lot
again.
A
lot
of
these
things
fall
into
the
buckets
that
pancho
had
shared
and
in
in
this
document
we've
created
it.
It
kind
of
gives
posing
questions
and,
in
some
instances
some
examples
of
how
to
bring
that
to
life.
M
The
only
thing
I'll
just
add
to
this
kind
of
wrap
up
is
some
other
thing
for
you
to
be
considering
when
you're
thinking
about
power
and
community
engagement
is
some
of
the
most
important
decisions
or
recommendations
you're
going
to
be
making
as
a
commission
involved.
Where
does
power
sit
with
and
the
idea
of?
How
do
we
want
to
see
power
happen,
and
I
think
this
is
one
of
the
challenges
that
that
we've
had
some
conversations
in
community
as
well.
M
The
idea
of
centering
power
through
a
centralized
source,
whether
it's
the
mayor
or
the
city
manager,
or
something
like
that
that
presents
you,
know
really
inherent
challenges
because,
ultimately,
from
from
an
equity
perspective,
what
are
we
doing
to
evolve
power?
What
are
we
doing
to
try
to
make
sure
that
the
voices
of
lived
experience,
the
voices
of
the
people
that
struggle
the
most
underneath
the
challenge
in
our
community
and
and
the
legacy
of
systemic
oppression
that
exists
within
our
structures?
Land
use
budgeting,
other
types
of
things,
all
these
different
policies
are
still
there.
M
You
need
to
make
sure
that
we're
actually
doing
so
in
a
way
that
are
lifting
up
those
voices
making
sure
they're
part
of
the
process
and
that
you're
actually
showing
impact
on
people's
lives,
and
I
can't
emphasize
that
what
camille
said
is.
It
is
incredibly
disrespectful
to
ask
people
what
they
think
and
then
don't
do
it
and
don't
do
a
darn
thing
about
it
and
I
think
that's
that
is
the
that
is
one
of
the
most
important
principles.
Don't
ask
people
questions
about
how
to
improve
their
lives
or
how?
M
How
to
you
know,
make
any
kind
of
decision
if
ultimately
you're
just
going
to
decide
to
ignore
it
and
and
and
please
I
I
think
I
heard
earlier
that
you
were
your
interpretation-
was
too
expensive.
M
D
G
We'll
do
the
same
process
just
kind
of
do
popcorn
here
for
folks
that
have
questions
and
magnolia.
You
have
the
first
first
question.
P
Thank
you.
Thank
you
so
much
for
that
presentation,
both
camille
and
also
poncho.
I
have
a
question
to
the
chair,
commissioner.
Ferreira.
Would
it
be
possible
for
community
members
to
offer
interpretation?
That's
informal
interpretation,
that's
just
one
solution
that
I
thought
of
listening
to
pancho
speak,
but
also
understanding
the
budget
concerns
that
we
were
told
about.
G
Can
I
make
just
one
clarification:
we
actually
are
going
to
ask
you
all
for
that
kind
of
specific
recommendation
before
we
wrap
up
tonight.
So
I
would
love
to
focus
our
questions
on
our
two
guests,
while
they're
on
the
call
with
us
just
to
respect
their
time
and
then
please
do
keep
ideas
like
that,
and
we
will
ask
you
to
share
those
before
we
wrap
up
today.
P
Sure
do
you
guys
ever
or
camille?
Do
you
have
groups
that
would
do
informal
free
of
charge?
Translation
if
you
know
of
any
please
let
us.
G
Know-
and
you
know
either
of
you
feel
free
to
jump
in
and
and
answer
or
we
could
just
you
know,
there's
nothing,
nothing
to
say
just
let
us
know
we'll
move
on.
I
I
mean
I,
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
recognize
the
budget
constraints,
but
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
we've
done
over
the
last
few
years
is
help
primarily
immigrant
women
of
color
build
out
their
own
cooperative
business,
who
can
both
help
and
support
spaces
and
organizations
that
are
in
need
of
translation,
but
also
do
so
for
a
living.
And
so
I
think
it's
important
to
just
acknowledge
that.
We're
asking
community
members
to
bring
a
value,
one
that
can
really
help
your
work
moving
forward
or
the
city's
work
moving
forward.
I
M
Yeah,
I
I
would
second
that
and
we
we
actually
used
the
cooperative
that
that
had
started
for
our
for
a
lot
of
our
meetings
and
for
many
of
our
things,
because
we
think
that
that's
just
it's
it's
the
sunk
cost
of
actually
democracy.
G
Thank
you
jose.
A
Yes,
question
for
either
camille
or
poncho
what
have
been
some
of
the
challenges
in
getting
the
community
to
participate
virtually
through
zoom
or
other
internet
platforms,
as
opposed
to
in
person.
M
Well,
obviously,
technology
access
is
a
huge,
is
a
huge
barrier.
A
lot
of
folks
do
not
have
access
to
it
or
have
a
sense
of
I
think
they'll
do
it
and
also
the
language
access
which
we
mentioned
before.
If
you
don't
have
interpretation
and
you're
not
able
to
do
that,
it's
a
different
kind
of
thing.
We've
been
accompanying
folks
to
city
hall,
and
we
could
have
you
know.
People
are
actually
you
know,
participating
together
and
and
helping
each
other
with
that
there
have
been
processes.
It
took
us
a
while
to
build
a
push
for
that.
M
Also,
you
know
it's
it's
a
big
challenge.
When
you're,
you
know
we
all
become
accustomed
to,
or
many
of
us
have
been
accustomed
to
actually
living
at
work,
but
the
challenges
of
of
these
events.
M
So
similar
things
that
we've
had
before
that
we've
been
able
to
get
around,
but
it's
been
harder
to
be
able
to
organize
and
be
able
to
get
people
into
that,
but
it's
also
made
it
more
possible
for
other
other
voices
and
spaces,
but
I
think
you're.
Actually
it's
tilting
things
even
further
towards
those
that
have
access
technology
have
resources,
have
child
care
have
other
types
of
types
of
things.
So
you
have
even
more
representation
of
people
that
have
privilege
versus
those
that
don't.
I
Yeah,
I
would
just
I
would
echo
some
of
that.
I
think
in
person
meetings
standard
for
us.
It
is
just
like
pancho
said
a
meal
translation
services
as
well
as
child
care,
are
just
the
starting
baseline
to
make
sure
that
people
can
join
us
in
our
meetings.
I
So
with
people
not
meeting
anymore,
we've
we've
diverted
some
of
that
resource
to
having
technology
classes
for
community
in
the
languages
that
that
they
speak,
so
that
they
can
understand
how
technology
use
works.
How
do
you
use
zoom,
or
how
do
you
use
this
app
and
I
think,
for
the
purposes
of
your
commission
you're
going
to
want
to
think
about
you
know
what
organizations
or
or
entities
have
been
investing
in
in
that
kind
of
support
for
community
and
then
who
can
maybe
connect
you
to
the
individuals
who
have
learned
to
do
that?
I
I
think
it's
been
interesting.
I
think
I
agree
with
everything
pancho
said
and
also
in
some
of
our
spaces.
We've
actually
seen
a
lot
more
engagement,
school
districts,
county
meetings
from
people
who,
once
they
learn
how
to
use
the
technology,
are
showing
up
in
greater
numbers.
As
long
as
there
is
that
translation
function,
and
so
making
sure
that
you
have
the
zoom
application
that
allows
for
interpretation
in
multiple
languages
is
has
definitely
helped.
G
Thank
you
both
camille
when
you
say
a
zoom
function
that
allows
for
that
translation.
I
I
I'm
not
aware
of
of
a
normal
zoom
function
that
allows
for
that.
But
can
you.
I
This
better
I'll
be
honest.
There
is
a
back
end
piece
to
zoom,
where,
if
you
set
up
the
meeting
with
translation
functions
ahead
of
time,
you
can
then
you'll
have
like
a
globe
at
the
bottom
of
your
zoom,
and
people
can
choose
the
language
that
that
they
need,
and
you
can
have
simultaneous
translation
happening
in
multiple
languages
which
is
very
efficient
and
allows
for
a
lot
of
people
to
participate
at
one
time.
A
That
presentation,
so
I
have
a
question
in
terms
of
how
would
you,
how
would
you
kind
of
introduce
this
topic,
the
charter
review
commission
to
the
community?
It's
not
at
all
a
sexy
topic.
You
know
just
for
me
alone,
speaking
to
the
vietnamese
community,
I
don't
even
know
where
to
start
in
terms
of
making
it
accessible.
I
I
And
so
I
think
you
know
pancho
mentioned
in
the
very
beginning:
it's
about
power
and
it's
about
equity,
and
so,
when
you
think
about
it
from
that
frame,
the
work
you
all
are
doing
is
going
to
touch
people's
lives
in
in
you
know,
enormous
ways:
whether
we're
talking
about
budget
allocation
representation,
direct
services
that
then
come
from
those
kinds
of
budget
decisions,
and
so
I
think,
if
there's
a
way
for
you
all
to
think
about
your
communication
strategy
around,
how
does
this
then
impact
people's
lives
as
residents
of
the
city
of
san
jose
versus
this?
I
M
I
usually
keep
it
as
simple
as
like
what
got
this
process
started
in
the
first
place.
Was
the
idea
of
let's
centralize
power
through
give
even
more
power
to
one
person
in
the
system,
and
is
that
going
to
best
serve
the
the
needs
and
voices
of
so
many
folks
that
are
struggling
in
very
different
ways,
and
so
that
posing
it
is
that
question
is
like.
M
G
H
F
We
have
time
for
no,
you
just
kidding
okay
thanks
for
that.
So
thank
you
to
both
of
our
speakers
and
and
thank
you
to
those
involved
in
arranging
for
them
to
be
here.
Given
all
the
the
challenges
that
we've
been
discussing
earlier
about
putting
together
our
agenda-
and
you
know
it's
both
yourselves
and
the
community
speaking
of
children
in
the
background-
have
have
been
around
the
block
so
many
times
in
terms
of
processes,
and
so
I
think
it
was
poncho.
F
You
started
to
share
an
example
of
the
task
force
at
council,
member
carrasco
and
supervisor
chavez
put
together.
I
wonder
if
there
are
others
like
really
specific
examples
that
you're
able
to
share
with
us
of
like
if
there
are
processes
that
you
thought
just
knocked
it
out
of
the
park
in
in
terms
of
the
the
quality
of
engagement
or
specific
practices
and
the
opposite,
you
know
protecting
the
names
of
the
guilty.
Of
course,.
I
I
actually
I
have
I
I
can't
attest
to
whether
or
not
this
is
a
good
idea.
Yet,
as
we've
only
had
one
committee
meeting,
but
I
will
say
that
I
co-chair
the
ethnic
studies
committee
in
the
allen
rock
union
school
district
and
from
the
feedback
that
I've
gotten
from
our
first
meeting.
I
I
feel
like
it's
headed
in
the
right
direction
and
I
would
say,
process
wise
number
one,
and
I
think
you
know
it's
represented
on
your
body.
We
really
sought
diverse
representation
and
different
experiences,
and
so
I
think
for
your
body
from
what
I
know
of
the
many
people
that
are
on
here.
I
I
think
that
that
you've
done
that
from
there,
though,
we've
organized
ourselves
to
have
leads,
and
I'm
not
sure
what
was
shared
with
you
earlier
about
what
you
can
and
cannot
do,
but
we've
organized
ourselves
to
have
leads,
who
then
reach
out
to
stakeholders
within
our
purview
who
have
that
lived
experience.
I
And
so,
for
example,
two
people
who
are
now
charged
with
gathering
input
and
feedback
having
deeper
conversations
with
teachers
as
a
stakeholder,
for
example,
or
parents
as
a
stakeholder
and
they've,
been
given
autonomy
and
authority
to
be
able
to
have
those
meetings
to
to
take
that
information.
I
To
then
make
recommendations
to
our
voting
body
and
so
acknowledging
that
we
couldn't
have
150
people
call
on
to
our
committee
meetings,
but
wanting
to
make
sure
that
we
got
a
good
cross-section
of
diverse
viewpoints
and
opinions
and
the
people
who
are
most
likely
going
to
be
impacted
by
the
decisions
we
make
right,
like
the
teachers
who
are
going
to
be
implementing
the
curriculum,
the
parents
of
students
who
will
be
learning
from
the
curriculum,
we
really
guided
our
our
process
and
our
structure
in
that
way.
I
I
We
have
institutions
whether
it's
academic
institutions
or
government
institutions,
or
even
you
know,
larger
non-profits,
who
kind
of
swoop
into
the
neighborhood,
tell
us
that
they
want
to
ask
our
community
a
ton
of
questions
with
hopes
that
it
leads
to
some
kind
of
ambiguous
goal,
collective
goal
or
vision
out
there,
without
any
specifics
kind
of
extract
as
much
information
as
they
can
from
our
community
with
you
know,
limited
translation
or
resources,
and
you
know
there's
a
promise
made
to
to
the
community,
and
so
we
try
our
hardest
to
find
the
resources
to
do
that
with
without
resources.
I
Kind
of
like
was
asked
earlier,
you
know,
can
we
can
we
do
this
kind
of
thing
for
free
and
then
kind
of
extract
the
information,
and
then
we
never
hear
back
from
them
again,
and
so,
when
community
members
have
this
happen
to
them
over
and
over
and
over
again,
it
is
very
unlikely
to
compel
them
to
then
engage
in
another
process,
and
so
I
think
that
is
really
why
we
were
inspired
to
do
this
philosophy
and
hold
ourselves
accountable
to
it
too.
I
So,
for
example,
with
someone's,
we
use
that
philosophy
now
and
will
not
allow
institutions
to
come
into
the
neighborhood
and
to
ask
us
to
do
those
things
unless
they're
meeting
the
specifications
that
we've
created.
M
The
example
that
I
would
bring
up
that
comes
to
mind
and
we're
actively
looking
at
exploring
doing
this
here
and
developing
that
here,
which
is
the
black
lives
matter.
Movement
in
los
angeles,
has
developed
a
participatory
budgeting
process
called
the
people's
budget,
which
is
which
craze
creates
a
framing
around
how
what
does
community
safety
look
like,
and
how
do
we
currently
spend
our
the
the
overall
macro?
You
know
budget
that
goes
into
these
public
institutions
and
getting
that
feedback
about.
M
How
do
we
want
our
priorities
to
happen,
and
I
think
that's
that's
a
good
example
of
participatory
budgeting.
That's
actually
looking
at
the
big
picture
and
what
are
the
outcomes
we
want
to
see
happen
and
then
versus
a
other
versions
of
pages
for
governance
that
are
budgeting
that
have
happened
here.
We
have
a
council
district
that
will
say:
let's
do
some
priorities
around
a
50
000
pot.
M
So
what
what's
useful
about
that
is
like,
like
a
bigger
process,
is
that
you're,
actually
educating
people
and
getting
them
involved
and
they're
centering
their
values
and
priorities,
and
and
have
a
way
of
channeling
that
energy
and
the
and
of
the
people's
budget
in
la
helped
frame
a
lot
of
the
conversations
that
really
led
to
like
reimagining,
how
they're
doing
things
around
health
and
community
safety
in
los
angeles.
We
hope
that
we're
actually
working
right
now
to
do
that
here
in
our
community
as
well.
But
it's
happening
it's
not
a
public
process.
M
It's
not
a
you
know.
A
public
agency
process
is
actually
a
coalition
of
grassroots
organizations
working
on
it.
So
just
the
principles
are
there.
How
are
we
doing
that?
We're
actually
centering
the
voice
of
lived
experience
working
through
those
the
voices
of
the
most
directly
impacted
and
they're,
the
ones
that
are
being
like
brought
up?
You
know,
first
and
foremost,.
I
Did
I
just
add
really
quickly,
because
we
also
love
the
the
people's
budget
process
too,
and
I
think
one
thing
that
kind
of
derailed
it
for
our
city,
because
we,
I
think
aspired
to
do
something
like
that
that
los
angeles
was
doing
but
also
new
york.
I
It's
happened
all
over
the
globe
actually,
and-
and
I
say
this-
both
to
be
a
little
bit
punchy,
but
also
just
to
like
name
it
like
our
city
adopted
the
idea,
but
rather
than
going
down
the
road
of
actually
following
the
participatory
budgeting
guidelines
and
process,
it
resulted
in
an
app
that
was
then
created
to
get
us
as
citizens
to
provide
feedback
through
this
app
and
it
really
took
away
kind
of
the
the
overall
intent
of
educating
people
on
the
ground
about
how
these
issues
matter
to
them
and
how
they
translate
to
people's
daily
lives.
I
And
so
I
think
I
I
share
that,
because
sometimes,
when
we're
not
clear
about
what
we're
trying
to
achieve
overall,
we
can
find
maybe
what
looks
to
be
an
elegant
solution
to
something,
especially
here
in
silicon
valley.
That
then
doesn't
really
yield
the
outcomes
that
we're
looking
for.
H
Perfect,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
camille
and
boncho,
for
for
your
expertise
and
for
sharing
tonight
along
those
lines
I
have.
I
have
two
two
things
that
I
picked
up
in
your
in
your
share
out
that
that
I
would
love
you
to
speak
to.
H
One
of
them
is
about
providing
an
open
space
and
a
welcoming
space,
especially
virtually
so
some
members
of
our
community
that
aren't
really
used
to
engaging
with
commissions
or
with
government,
find
it
very
accessible
and
welcoming-
and
you
just
spoke
to
a
couple
of
processes
that
that
you've
seen
work.
H
So
I
wonder
if
you
can
say
a
little
bit
more
about
that,
is
that
something
that
the
commission
can
take
on
or
something
that
we
can
recommend
to
the
council
to
support
us
with,
or
is
that
something
that
we
need
to
reach
out
to
our
neighborhood
associations?
Our
non-profits?
H
Is
that
something
that
they
have
to
create
that
synergy
right
to
kind
of
build
that
voice
right
that
that
I
think
we
would
benefit
from
and
also
boncho
like
you
brought
up,
you
know
real
notification
right
if
you
can
say
a
little
bit
more
about
that.
Sometimes
I
don't
know
if
you
meant
it
in
this
context
right,
but
when
we
post
very
official
meetings,
it's
very
you
know
standard
right.
It's
it's
like
a
contract
right,
it's
sort
of
like
your
line.
H
You
know
like
a
bank
statement
or
something
or
or
like
a
lease
right.
So
like
you
post
it
on
a
bulletin
board
and
and
you've
checked
it
off.
But
I
wonder
what
you,
if,
if
real
notification,
if
there's
a
way
where
we
can
marry
both
concepts
right
like
one
and
notify
in
the
official
way,
but
also
have
like
a
social
media
notification
where
it
also
comes
out
from
the
official
channels
right,
it
also
comes
out
from
you
know.
Maybe
the
city's
public
information
officer
or
just
some
sort
of
outlet.
H
But
it
is,
you
know,
facebook
friendly
or
twitter,
friendly
or
social
media
friendly,
where
it's
something
that
is
very
you
know
as
commissioner
as
our
as
our
as
our
vice
chair
said,
you
know
it's
not
a
sexy
thing,
but
maybe
we
can
make
an
agenda
item
intriguing
right
through
some
sort
of
you
know,
informal
comical,
you
know
meme
or
something
so
then
that
will
get
some
people
to
show
up.
So
if
you
can
speak
on
those
two
things,
I
would
appreciate
it.
Thank
you.
M
I
mean
I'll
just
say:
I
think
those
are
great
ideas.
Commissioner
barrosio.
I
think
I
think
one
of
the
things
that's
really
important
is
context
matters
and,
and
the
and
the
ambassadors,
the
trusted
you
know,
like
messengers
really
matter
and
developing
those
kind
of
relationships
with
with
partner
organizations,
are
really
really
critical.
One
of
the
things
that
we
found,
I
think
some
of
you
may
be
aware
of
the
work
that
we've
been
doing
around
financial
relief
around
covid
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
did
is
we
just.
M
We
decided
to
design
something
design
a
process
by
working
with
a
network
of
trusted
organizations,
rather
than
saying
here's
what
we're
gonna
do
for
the
community
there's
a
problem.
We
actually
partnered
with
the
city's
office
of
immigrant
affairs
and
convened
like
dozens
and
like
over
70
stakeholder
groups
to
be
able
to
talk
about
what
we
want
to
do
and
the
first
thing
we
did
was
we
designed
a
survey
tool
from
these
trusted
organizations
to
be
able
to
go
out
and
ask
people
how
what
kind
of
help
do
they
need
and
how
they?
M
It's
an
attitude.
It's
an
approach.
It
is
a.
It
is
a
commitment
to
actually
making
sure
that
those
that
are
that
are
struggling,
the
most
that
are
the
most
vulnerable,
but
also
really
important
to
to
what
makes
this
community
strong
and
whole
and
resilient
are
the
ones
that
are
actually
put
in
the
driver's
seat
of
community
and
public
decision
making
and
being
able
to
do
so.
So
it's
not
just
you
know,
but
you
could
you
could
if
you
want
to
drive
turnout
to
something
you
could
just
say
something
pretty
controversial,
just
go
on.
M
Next
door
and
you
get
a
lot
of
people,
you
can
get
a
lot
of
people
riled
up
on
whatever
issues
saying
that
they're
going
to
be
a
bunch
of
poor
people
like
living
in
your
neighborhood,
sometimes
does
all
the
work
for
you
in
terms
of
turnout,
but
if
you're
trying
to
get
the
a
safe
place
and
a
real
meaningful
dialogue
and
really
digging
underneath
those
topics,
you
need
to
have
those
relationships
with
organizations
that
can
provide
context
that
could
actually
be
the
ones
going
door-to-door,
virtually
or
or
otherwise,
and
making
sure
that
people
are
there
and
understand.
I
I
echo
all
of
that.
Thank
you,
pancho,
and
I
think
the
only
thing
I
would
add,
depending
on
you
know
the
kinds
of
decisions
you
all
make
about.
What
type
of
input
are
you
seeking
or
engagement?
Are
you
seeking
in
what
format
if
it
does
end
up
being
in
this
kind
of
format
right
in
in
the
zoom
space?
I
You
know
really
thinking
about
timing.
I
think
one
of
the
the
things
we
hear
from
community
all
the
time
is
to
have
to
come
to
provide
testimonial,
and
you
have
you
see
like
this
one
minute
clock
that
is
just
like
going
down
it,
just
it
for
people.
Who've
never
spoke
up
in
these
spaces
before
that.
I
That
is
not
a
safe
space
that
just
makes
you
feel
like
you
need
to
say
everything
you
have
to
say
within
a
minute
and
try
to
make
an
impact,
and
so
you
know
again,
depending
on
the
kinds
of
engagement
you
seek.
You
know,
how
do
you
maybe
have
a
meeting,
a
community
meeting
that
has
some
explicit
agreements
on
the
front
end?
I
How
are
you
all
going
to
in
this
role
spend
more
time
listening
versus
speaking
and
taking
the
feedback
from
the
community,
and
then
you
know,
I
know
you
probably
don't
want
to
give
everyone
20
minutes
to
speak.
But
how
do
you
give
people
some
space
to
at
least
be
able
to
articulate
what's
on
their
mind
without
feeling
like
they're,
going
to
be
cut
off
at
any
moment,
I
think
are
just
some
of
the
things
that
that
we
suggest.
M
I
think
also
creating
spaces
where
people
can
interact
with
each
other,
because
this
is
such
a
terrible,
one-way
meeting
like
that.
That
kind
of
thing-
and
so
you
know
how
many
people
have
been
in
big
zooms-
is
like
that's.
Why
breakout
rooms
exist,
I
mean
and
ways
in
which
people
can
actually
humanize
each
other,
rather
than
feeling
like
intimidated.
Like
am
I
going
to
speak
before
you
know
300
people
or
20
people
it
just
it's.
M
It
can
be
very,
very
intimidating
not
just
from
a
language
access
perspective,
but
from
like
every
perspective,
like
am
I
human
here
are
people
listening
to
me
and
then
you
look
at
people
like
you
know
staring
down.
Are
they
even
paying
attention
to
me?
Are
you
actually
you're,
not
even
looking
at
the
screen
I
mean
and
and
your
your
cameras
are
off
it's
like
am
I
just
you
know
like
is
this?
M
G
Very
very
inspiring
and
informative.
Thank
you
both
so
yeah
a
lot
for
us
to
follow
up
on
and
talk
about.
There's
no
more
questions
feel
free
to
stick
around,
but
also
you
can
have
your
evening
back.
G
Thank
you
for
the
for
the
the
very
last
minute
you
know,
agreement
to
join
us
tonight.
I
D
A
D
Okay,
so
what
I'd
like
to
do
now
is
we'd
love
to
get
your
input
so
thinking
about
what
you've
heard.
Thinking
about
the
questions,
great
questions,
great
responses,
really
we
wanted
to
take
some
time
now
to
hear
from
everyone
around.
What
did
you
hear
that
you
think
is
important
for
us
to
consider,
as
we
start
to
put
together
this
civic
engagement
plan
in
part
of
our
phase
one
work,
and
I
will
ask
lawrence
to
facilitate
this,
but
we're
really
just
trying
to
get
everyone
to
kind
of
weigh.
G
Thanks
fred-
and
we
will
do
a
round
table
here,
we'll
give
everyone
a
minute.
We
want
to
revisit
that
question
about
additional
topics.
Then
we
need
time
for
public
input
before
we
wrap
up
so
again.
Our
our
intention
now
is
just
to
hear
from
each
of
you
about
thoughts.
You
have
about
civic
engagement
for
this
commission
as
you
all
proceed
along
your
process
of
developing
recommendations
for
city
council.
G
What
you'd
like
to
consider
as
far
as
further
engaging
the
community
so
tony,
can
I
ask
you
or
megan
to
do
a
roll
call
to
facilitate
this
or
just
walk,
walk
through
this.
E
P
So
I
I
would
propose
that
we
every
other
monday,
when
we're
not
meeting
just
have
an
hour
just
for
the
public
to
speak,
and
all
we
do
is
listen
because
otherwise,
how
do
we
hear
people
and
and
it's
true-
they
only
have
a
minute
to
speak
and
they
do
feel
like
they
have
to
make
maximum
impact,
and
we
do
want
to
hear
from
people
and
this
whole
point
of
doing
more
listening
than
talking.
P
I
agree
with
that,
so
I
would
propose
that
every
other
monday,
when
we're
not
meeting
that
we
just
have
an
hour
where
we
listen
to
public
comment
and
and
if
fewer
people
show
up,
and
the
public
comment
is
less
time.
That's
okay,
but
we
definitely
want
to
give
a
city
of
a
million
people
an
hour
a
month
where
we
just
or
two
hours
a
month
where
we
just
listen,
because
this
is
really
important.
P
What
what
we're
doing
here
and
then,
based
on
everything
that
I
heard
I
do
think
translation
is
really
important,
especially
in
this
particular
city
that
we
live
in
san
jose,
and
I
I
think
at
a
minimum.
The
documents
that
are
posted
to
the
website
of
the
city
could
be
translated
into
two
or
three
languages:
the
languages
of
the
most
populous
here.
G
Yeah
I
appreciate
it
and
you
know
just
to
expedite
things
if
you
have
anything
to
add
to
what's
been
shared
already.
Please
do
that
or
you
can
always
say
pass
next.
Commissioner.
Tony.
A
A
Hi
everybody,
so
I've
been
an
elected
official
for
18
years
and
then
I
was
on
the
planning
commission.
So
I've
been
sitting
listening
to
the
public
for
over
20
years
and
I,
whether
we
reach
out
to
our
constituents
or
whether
we
you
know
seek
out
pablo
and
and
camille
to
to
get
to
communities
that
usually
don't
come
to
these
meetings.
But
now
maybe
can
you
zoom
one
of
the
most
effective
things
for
getting
rid
of
the
you
know.
A
I've
only
got
one
minute
is
to
get
a
group
together
who
want
to
give
a
message,
and
each
member
of
that
group
says
something
or
a
minute,
and
then
the
next
person
builds
on
that
and
builds
on
that
and
builds
on
that
so
that
effectively
the
group
may
get
five
minutes
of
letting
us
know
how
the
group
feels.
You
know
whether
it's
a
community
of
color
or
whether
it's
a
you
know
a
a
a
group
who
usually
doesn't
show
up
at
these
kinds
of
meetings
and
doesn't
feel
represented.
A
But
that's
the
that's
that
to
me
is
a
very
effective
way
of
communicating
something
effectively,
because
a
minute
is
not
enough
and
we
can't
give
everybody
five
minutes.
So
I
just
want
to
put
that
out
there
as
a
way
that
maybe
we
can
all
reach
out
to
the
people
or
the
groups
that
we
know
and
say,
hey
we're
going
to
talk
on
this
subject
come
as
a
group
and
each
one
have
a
little
something
to
say
and
add
on
to
it.
Thank
you.
A
Hi,
this
is
dan
bazuto.
My
understanding
was
that,
first
of
all
we're
an
advisory
council
commission
in
that
we're
simply
providing
some
advice
to
the
city
council
who's
going
to
make
a
determination
based
on
what
they
feel.
Second,
I
believe
that
the
city-
all
10
districts,
are
represented
here.
Wouldn't
we
allow
each
of
the
districts,
the
city
council
in
that
district,
to
provide
the
appropriate
language
interpretation
to
their
their
constituents?
A
I
would
kind
of
put
it
back
on
the
the
city
council
and
the
districts
to
to
take
care
of
that
issue.
They
have
money,
they
have
their
own
little
budgets.
To
do
that
type
of
thing.
I
would
think
that
400
is
not
going
to
really
make
that
much
difference
one
way
or
another.
We
don't
need
to
spend
that
kind
of
money
in
district
six
that
we
need
to
spend
in
district
three.
So
that
would
be
my
suggestion
and
it
would
also
expedite
the
meetings
and
get
things
going
in
the
right
direction.
E
C
Yes,
I'm
here
with
yeah.
Thank
you
very
much,
just
just
a
couple
of
things.
One
of
the
one
of
the
things
I'm
hearing
is,
you
know
the
importance
of
of
building
a
sense
of
community
and
and
personal
connection
to
what
the
work
that
we're
doing
as
a
commission,
I
think
it's
hugely
important,
but
a
lot
of
it
seems
to
me
a
lot
of
that
trust
between
you
know.
C
Any
kind
of
commission
or
committee
and
members
of
the
community
kind
of
is
built
up
over
sort
of
repeated
interaction
and
kind
of
commune
in
those
relationships
that
are
built
up
over
time,
and
this
commission
is
not
really
built
for
that
in
a
lot
of
in
in.
Sadly,
because
we,
you
know,
we
meet
every
other
week,
so
kind
of
to
magnolia's
point.
C
I
think
we
need
to
find
a
better
way
to
some
way
once
we
start
getting
more
into
the
deeper
into
the
issues
to
to
be
able
to
listen
and
try
to
build
some
relationships
through
neighborhood
associations
and
other
kinds
of
groups
that
are
that
are
working
in
the
communities
every
day.
Without
that
I
mean
we're
not
meeting
again
for
another
month
after
this,
so
that
you
know
every
other
week
is
going
to
be
really
hard.
A
A
Thank
you
yeah.
You
know,
I
think
you
know
the
idea
you
know
of
you
know.
Just
you
know
announcing
these
public
meetings
and
our
public
hearings,
fingers
and
hoping
that
people
would
show
is
you
know
they're,
not
not
the
best
way
to
go,
and
you
know
I
from
you
know
the
presentations
and
the
conversations
it
seems
like
we're
getting
to
on
the
right
track,
but
you
know
just
exploring
more
opportunities
for
promoting
engagement
with
underrepresented
communities
through
partnerships
with.
A
Mobility
plan
there
were
small
grants,
programs.
A
Creating
language,
accessible
materials,
you
know
popular
education,
materials
and
getting
you
know
the
clerk's
office
to
actively
promote
these.
You
know
our
commission
meetings,
our
public
hearings
through
all
cities.
You
know
all
cities,
communication
channels,
you
know
also
getting
in
you-
know
each
of
the
council
members
and
the
mayor's
newsletters.
You
know
really
just.
O
Being
actively
you
know,
promoting
our
public
hearings.
G
A
F
Thank
you.
You
know
the
city
clerk
at
our
last
meeting
sort
of
started
to
go
over
the
resources
available
to
us,
I'm
wondering
if,
if
we
could,
as
a
commission,
just
request
sort
of
a
full
listing
of
first
of
all,
what
are
the
existing
city
channels
where
we
could
get
the
information
out
they've
kind
of
been
referenced
in
various
ways,
but
if
we
could
really
get
a
full
understanding
of
that,
I
think
that
would
be
very
helpful
and
then
also
what
are
besides,
that,
what
are
all
the
resources
available?
F
You
know
there's
some
staffing
if
we
could
get
a
copy
of
the
contract,
very
grateful
to
have
the
support
of
civic
makers
just
to
understand.
What's
within
that
scope,
you
know,
there's
been
a
reference
to
the
translation
budget.
F
How
do
we
understand
the
full
nature
of
that
budget
for
translation
and
interpretation
interns
we're
going
to
have
a
lot
of
research,
and
so
I'm
kind
of
pumping
the
public
engagement
needs
together
with
a
lot
of
other
needs,
but
if
we
could
get
in
writing
just
the
full
understanding
of
what
are
the
resources
so
that
this
commission
can
really
do
its
work
and
and
if,
if
we
see
limitations,
how
we're
going
to
take
those
on
that
would
be
tremendously
valuable,
especially
in
relation
to
potential
community
partnerships.
A
Yeah,
a
quote
that
my
father
likes
to
throw
around
in
the
household
is
the
one
from
jfk
that
is
inauguration,
which
is
always
like
ask
not
what
you
can
do
for
your
country,
but
that's
what
you
can
you
know
ask
what
well
that's
not
what
the
country
can
do
for
you,
but
that's
what
you
can
do
for
the
country
right.
So
I
think
turning
that
to
where
we
are
now
it's
it's
all
the
more
important
that
from
our
end,
instead
of
saying
hey,
what
are
the
resources
that
can
be
provided
to
us?
A
You
know
we
start
thinking
in
our
own
personal
capacities.
What
what
type
of
effort
we
can
do
so
jeremy
mentioned
it
greatly,
as
well
as
professor
garrett
percival
start
reaching
out
to
the
neighborhood
association
start
reaching
out
to
the
council
folks
and
say
hey
what
are
kind
of
you
know,
I'd
like
to
get
reach
out
as
many
people
as
I
can,
and
I
think
you
two
or
however
many
groups
there
are
out
there.
A
You
would
be
a
great
asset
and
start
utilizing
them
to
their
fullest
capacity,
so
that
not
only
we
get
the
feedback
from
those
who
are
in
attendance
today,
which
are
the
12
that
are
sitting
in
this
virtual
meeting.
But
those
who
you
know
given
their
busy
capacities,
don't
necessarily
have
the
ability
to
attend
these
sorts
of
meetings.
So
that's
just
something
to
keep
in
mind
for
the
future.
A
Yes,
I
I
know
that
the
mayor's
office
and
each
council
from
times
to
time
they
use
next
door
to
to
post
meeting
informations
or
other
other
things
that
they
want
the
city
to
know.
So
I'm
just
wondering
if
this
can
be
used
as
a
announcement
tool,
the
civil
engagement,
because
there
is
a
discussion
session
available
through
that.
A
The
other
thing
I
would
like
to
mention
is
besides
the
language
barrier.
I
think
there
is
a
knowledge
barrier
as
well
on
this
commission
from
its
name.
It's
really
hard
for
folks
to
understand
what
this
is
mean.
It's
not
like
a
art,
commission
or
library,
commission,
so
people
can
know
immediately
what
we
do
so
some
basic
background,
introduction
or
information
to.
Let
folks
know
what
are
we
doing,
how
this
will
impact
their
life?
I
Great
thank
you,
and
I
also
want
to
you
know
again
highlight
about
the
language
and
also
put
on
closed
captioning.
I
know
I
have
even
students
that
are
hard
of
hearing,
and
I
know
that
closed
captioning
will
be
something
that
would
be
very
useful
not
for
them,
but
for
a
lot
of
people.
I
So
definitely
thinking
about
closed
captioning
when
we
thinking
about
language
and
also
as
well
as
I
know
that
something
that
one
of
our
speakers
spoke
about
was
having
kind
of
leads
and
going
into
community
right
and
doing
that
engagement
as
well,
and
it's
that's
something
that
we
can
do,
and
I
know
that
please
correct
me
if
I'm
saying
you're
not
or
your
name
incorrectly
young
was
talking
about
possibly
giving
what
a
charger
review
is
and
what
you
know
that
educational
background
with
not
just
like
I'm
here
and
I'm
going
to
give
this
beautiful
powerpoint
with
a
lot
of
auditory
and
visuals
to
be
able
to
digest,
because
I
know
I
have
a
hard
time
as
well
and
I
have
to
spend
quite
a
long
time
on
it.
E
Sherry,
oh
before
sherry
starts.
I
would
just
wanted
to
say
that
the
youtube
broadcast
is
closed
captioned.
So,
if
somebody
wants
to
watch
live
on
youtube,
they're,
getting
close
captions
there,
okay,
now
sherry.
Thank
you.
I
don't
have
a
lot
more
to
add.
I
think
everybody
so
far
has
had
great
ideas.
I
I
just
want
to
stress
again
that
in.
G
A
A
Again
great
ideas:
I
just
wanted
to
focus
on
the
neighborhood
association
and
social
media
for
getting
this
stuff
out.
Yeah,
it's
a
very
complex,
I
guess
charter
for
us
to
really
look
at
and
and
how
we're
going
to
change
if
they
take
our
our
recommendations.
But
that's
all
I
have
thanks
great
thanks,
luis.
H
Yes,
thank
you
tony.
I
would
say
that
I
echo
what
what
has
been
said.
For
example,
commissioner,
commissioner
magnolia,
you
brought
up
how
how
we
can
use
the
off
off
meeting
slots,
and
I
would
also
explore
the
idea
of
maybe
opening
up
the
zooms
on
the
day
of
meetings
earlier,
the
commissioners
we
don't
have
to
arrive
earlier,
but
maybe
a
five
o'clock
or
a
5
30
start
time
for
open.
H
You
know,
like
just
very
informal
q.
A
people
want
to
get
caught
up
with
what's
happened,
and
maybe
a
facilitator
from
a
neutral
party.
You
know
civic
makers,
you
know
interns
can't
facilitate
that.
So
then,
once
the
conversation
starts
at
six,
everyone
is
pretty
caught
up
and
also
to
commissioner
young's
point.
H
Yes,
I
also
feel
that
there's
the
knowledge
gap
that
we
do
need
to
fill
and
maybe
there's
something
that
we
can
put
out
on
how
how
to
engage
meetings
like
this
and
what
people
should
expect,
because
it's
very
formal,
but
I
think
a
very
casual
approach
to
it
would
really
help
the
public.
Thank
you.
P
F
L
Yeah,
excuse
me,
yes,
I
I
think
it
would
also
be
helpful
if
this
commission
were
to
somehow
debate
internally
and
and
come
to,
I
guess,
choke
points
or
points
where
it
would
be
most
helpful
to
get
public
insight.
Public
insight
is
important,
but
we
just
open
it
up
and
tell
us
what's
on
your
mind,
one
minute
at
a
time
it
becomes
too
much
to
process.
L
So
our
role
as
I
see
it
is
again
to
write
the
federalist
papers
or
the
equivalent
of
it,
and
so
we're
making
arguments
you
know
for
strong
mayor
or
against
strongman
or
devolving
power
or
some
third,
you
know
fourth
fifth
government
structure.
L
However,
we
decide
to
and
just
writing
out
the
arguments
and
to
put
it
out
to
make
a
public
document
to
flesh
out
arguments-
and
I
I
I
think
it's
most
helpful
to
me-
is
to
go
and
hear
how
whatever
potential
ideas,
we're
thinking
about,
might
impact
the
public
and
how
the
public
feels
about
potential
ideas.
But
we
should
direct
public
discussion
towards
some
ways:
channeling
somebody
that
would
be
most
beneficial
to
us
as
a
commission
to
do
our
work,
and
so
I
I
would
just
you
know,
flag
that.
E
G
A
Frank,
hey
just
add
to
the
conversation.
I
think
we
need
to
think
about
what
we're
going
to
do
with
all
the
public
input
that
we
get.
So
is
it
just
a
matter
of
informing
us
in
terms
of
our
recommendations,
or
are
we
trying
to
act
as
a
conduit
to
the
council
to
give
them
kind
of
the
temperature
of
the
community
of
what
they
think
in
terms
of
each
of
the
options
that
we
kind
of
come
up
with?
A
So
I
kind
of
like
the
idea
of
if
we
can
is
our
community
meetings,
you
know
if
we
can
flesh
out
these
options
and
kind
of
turn
it
into
a.
I
forget
the
term,
but
where
we
kind
of
get
the
input
of
the
the
people
and
kind
of
get
a
sense
for,
are
they
more
for
this
kind
of
system
or
another
kind
of
system?
So
anyway,
what
should
we
do
with
the
the
information
once
we
get?
It.
E
L
A
Right
just
want
to
agree
with
much
of
what
I've
heard.
I
do
want
to
ask
that
we
do
have.
I
think
it
was
a
request
to
have
a
something
placed
on
the
agenda,
so
we
can
talk
about
the
resources
that
we
have
for
outreach.
I
think
it's
so
important
that
we
are
providing
translation.
Often
people
of
color
left
behind
they're,
ignored
and
saying
we
don't
have
the
budget
for
it,
but
these
are
the
same.
People
are
contributing
to
the
budget
of
the
city.
The
same
people
are
contributing
to
taxes
within
this
community.
A
Let's
not
leave
these
people
behind,
so
I
would
like
for
to
have
that
agenda.
Also,
I
believe
lawrence.
You
had
a
request
for
other
things
that
we
may
want
to
talk
about
in
the
charter.
I'm
just
going
to
say.
Broadly,
I've
looked
at
sections,
800,
900,
1,
1200
and
1900
are
all
areas
of
the
charter
in
the
entirety
that
I
would
like
to
be
able
to
discuss,
and
this
is
an
addition
to
the
things
that.
G
You
did,
and
I
did
not
doubt
it
for
one
minute,
so
we
will
come
back
to
that,
but
thank
you
for
sharing
and
just
make
sure
we
caught
those
as
800
900.
F
Yeah,
well,
I
would
just
kind
of
go
back
to
my
earlier
comment.
A
About
us
having
a
very
good,
solid
discussion
about
the
very
reason
that
we
are
all
here
from
the
very
root
of
the
of
the
effort
to
get
us
here,
because
this
will
help
us
inform
in
almost
an
elevator
statement
to
our
public
to
our
neighborhood
meetings,
what
we're
actually
doing
here
so
other
than
that.
I
everything
everybody
has
said.
I
really
appreciate.
A
Yeah,
so
I
would
want
to
echo
what
my
fellow
commissioners
said
about
language
access.
I
would
also
say
when
you
do
interpret
make
sure
that
the
language
is
accessible
as
well,
because
people
are
coming
in
from
different
education
levels,
even
if
they
do
speak
another
language.
So
that's
important.
I
also
want
to
ask
if
we
can
partner
with
non-profit
organizations
in
order
to
do
community
engagement,
since
those
are
the
organizations
that
community
trust
there's
a
lot
of
distrust
in
governments
and
different
ethnic
groups,
and
then
the
other
one
is
advertising
on
ethnic
media.
A
We're
talking
a
lot
about
social
media
channels,
but
that
comes
with
privilege.
That
means
you
have
access
to
internet.
Not
everyone
has
access
to
internet,
which
has
been
very
clearly
shown
during
covid.
So
how
do
we
get
to
ethnic
medias?
Look
at
radios
look
at
newspaper
to
let
people
know
that
this
is
happening
and
also
educate
them
about
the
charter
review
commission.
What
are
we
doing
here?
Thank
you.
A
After
all
that
I
wasn't
ready,
I
agree
with
the
focus
that
we've
evolved
over
the
last
period
of
discussion.
I
think
education
is
really
important
for
groups
that
are
coming
in
to
talk
about
this
because
a
lot
of
them,
if
we're
talking
about
reaching
folks
who
are
not
normally
engaged
they,
they
probably
don't
even
understand
the
process
of
government
here
and
and
that's
a
challenge.
I
was
glad
christina
mentioned.
A
What
I
was
thinking,
which
is,
I
want
somos
mayfair
working
on
the
east
side,
education,
part
of
it
and
the
engagement
because
they
are
camille-
is
so
good
at
at
at
doing
that,
and
I
think
it
would
be
good
for
us
to
take
a
look
at
her.
I
think
it's
nine
or
ten
points
of
of
how
to
do
effective
outreach
just
just
for
education,
it's
it's
fabulous
and
they
know
how
to
use
it.
G
Great,
thank
you
all
right,
very
much
appreciate
the
that
input
and
yeah
fred,
and
I
will
see
what
we
can
do
to
work
that
into
the
work
plan.
I
did
want
to
just
revisit
that
open
question
that
we
paused.
While
we
had
our
guests
and
that
question
is
what
topics
would
you
like
to
add
to
a
list
of
study
topics
to
consider
before
our
next
meeting,
and
also
that
call
for
the
public
to
share
additional
topics
as
well?
G
We've
heard
a
number
of
things,
but
not
everyone
had
a
chance
to
share.
Let's
see
the
topics
I
was
tracking
were
the
sections
of
the
city
charter
that
commissioner
calendar
just
mentioned.
Alternative
government
forms
third
forms
campaign:
finance
reform,
history
of
this
issue
in
san
jose
other
thoughts.
Right
now
that
folks
have
about
specific
study
topics.
We
also
have
an
intention
to
dig
into
specific
examples
from
across
the
country.
Inspiring
examples
has
been
mentioned
from
from
cities
of
similar
sizes.
A
A
L
Yeah,
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
to
the
commission
to
learn
basically
like
how
a
bill
becomes
a
law
or
an
idea
becomes
an
ordinance
in
the
city
of
san
jose.
What's
that
process,
so
we
can
really
kind
of
look
at.
You
know
why.
Why
are
we
even
talking
about
potentially
changing
it?
You
know
what's
good,
what's
strong,
which
works,
and
why
might
there
be
room
for
improvement
in
any
direction
and
also.
G
You're,
specifically
talking
about
the
should
council,
make
a
put
legislation
to
to
pass
an
ordinance
or
or
just.
L
L
That
we're
taking
right,
but
also
maybe
to
understand
the
the
it's
the
history
or
the
context
of
why
we're
discussing
this
right
now
in
the
last
six
months
or
one
year,
you
know
what
what
was
the
history
of
you
know
forming
this
commission
like
what
you
know,
the
the
idea
from
the
mayor
and
the
public
sentiment
and
the
timing,
and
you
know
running
for
mayor
and
two
years
versus
what
six
year
term,
all
that
stuff.
Why
you.
G
F
A
Idea
of
expanding
the
scope
is
a
discussion
is
really
attractive,
except
for
the
deadline,
and
I
think
we
need
to
be
careful
as
we
look
at
expanding
our
discussion,
how
quickly
how
it
how
it
directly
affects
the
core
issues
we
were
expected
to
address
and
how
much
time
it's
going
to
add.
I
just
I
think
you
know-
maybe
maybe
the
commission
could
be
extended
after
it
makes
some
of
these
basic
decisions
and
and
look
at
other
aspects
of
the
charter.
A
But
I'd
like
to
see
us
focus
pretty
quickly
on
what
we
need
to
do
got
it.
G
And
by
share.
A
A
Who
are
in
our
same
place,
who
are
considering
to
do
strong
mayor,
but
then
decided
not
to
do
that,
so
I
want
to
look
at
why
they
chose
that
too.
G
Great
commissioner
rosio.
H
Perfect,
thank
you
thank
you
for
giving
me
this
opportunity,
so
I
read
the
charter
as
well
and
as
a
first-time
commissioner,
I
too,
you
know
I
was
trying
to
keep
up
with
with
with
the
layout
the
format
the
way
that
it
was
it
was
laid
out,
but
to
your
question
about
is
there
something
that
could
be
could
be
further
explored
or
clarified
in
terms
of
the
charter?
H
I
think
I
think
it
would
help
all
of
us
kind
of
see
the
charter
as
as
an
accessible
document
right,
something
that
we
can
work
with.
So
one
of
the
three
things
that
that
I
would
love
more
clarity
on
is
everything
all
the
articles
read
pretty.
H
You
know
pretty
bureaucratic,
and
then
we
get
to
the
last
one.
The
act
to
limit
urban
sprawl
and
that
sort
of
seems
like
something
contemporary,
something
that
just
kind
of
came
up,
and
I
wonder
what
the
history
is
behind
that
and
how
does
that
type
of
issue
like
make
it
on
a
charter
and
other
issues
don't
make
it
on
the
charter?
I
thought
that
was
a
pretty
interest,
interesting
article
at
the
end
of
the
charter
and
the
second
one
is
the
the
section
on
boards
and
commissions.
H
So
I
saw
that
three
were
highlighted,
but
I
know
we
have.
You
know
over
20.,
so
I
wonder
the
history
behind
those
three,
why
those
three
and
how
do
the
other
ones
kind
of
fit
into
the
charter,
and
the
last
point
would
be.
I
also
know
that
the
city
works
a
lot
with
unions
and
there
was
a
big
highlight
on
also
police
and
fire
right
in
terms
of
national
disasters.
You
know
how
do
we,
how
do
we?
H
How
do
we
leverage
you
know
them
in
terms
of
also
like
retirement
and
similarly,
how
does
how
do
how
do
certain
organizations
or
unions
that
the
city
works
with
how?
How
is
it
highlighted
and
not
highlighted
in
certain
areas
of
the
charter.
G
Yeah
no
problem,
so
just
for
clarity
on
that
one.
You
just
want
to
understand
how
bodies,
like
unions
or
other
organizations
are
their
their
interaction
with
city
government
is
mapped
out
in
the
charter,
so
we're
clarified
or.
H
Yeah
yeah
yeah,
so
the
charter,
obviously,
is
you
know
like
the
city's
constitution
right,
like
sort
of
and
the
the
privilege
right,
the
sum
of
the
commission.
Well,
I
don't
know
if
the
privilege
is
the
right
word,
but
maybe
perhaps,
but
like
certain
commissions
or
certain
organizations
that
the
city
works
with
is
obviously
much
more
meaty
or
someone
felt
along
the
lines
of
like
hey.
This
one
deserves
its
own
article.
H
This
one
deserves
its
own
provision
and
just
understanding
the
thought
process
on
why
certain
commissions
certain
I
like
I
like
bargaining
units,
I
guess
you
would
say,
have
a
place
in
the
commission
and
why
some
don't
credit
yeah,
because-
and
I
bring
that
up,
you
know
just
because
I
know
that
part
of
our
work
is
also
you
know,
obviously
the
five
or
four
objectives
of
our
commission,
but
if
time
allows
we're
also
charged
with
seeing
the
city
and
what
we
can
do
to
make
it
much
more
inclusive,
much
more
equitable,
and
I
think
if
we
begin
to
explore
some
of
those
questions
about
what
we
see
in
the
charter
and
what
we
don't
see
in
the
charter
would
kind
of
help
us
again.
G
You
other
topics,
commissioner
matsumura.
F
Thank
you,
so
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
right
now
we
sort
of
have
the
the
dichotomy
of
mayor
councillor
council
manager,
but
if
we
could
actually
break
that
down
a
little
bit
and
and
get
a
comparison
from
a
number
of
of
cities
of
what
are
the
actual
powers
of
the
council,
what
are
the
powers
of
the
mayor?
What
are
the
powers
of
the
city
manager?
Who
are
the
other
elected
offices
within
that
city?
What
are
the
accountability
mechanisms
for
for
those
respective
roles?
F
You
know
roles
of
appointed
commissions,
the
number
of
council
members
as
well.
You
know,
I
know,
there's
some
some
articles
out
there
arguing
about
the
importance
of
the
number
of
council
members,
the
the
size
of
their
staff,
so
I
think
kind
of
breaking
apart.
Those
dimensions
of
it
would
be
really
valuable.
F
I
also
think
if
we,
if
we
look
at
what
are
some
of
the
major
issues
of
concern
to
the
public
right
now
in
san
jose,
and
if
we
can
try
to
understand
more
about
where
we
could
trace
those
issues
back
to
the
charter,
which
isn't
a
direct
translation
or
an
obvious
one.
But
you
know
one
of
our
speakers
tonight's
issue
of
budget
equity.
Where
do
we
see
examples
of
tools
and
charters
to
deal
with
budget
equity?
F
Also,
police
accountability
charter
is
an
often
a
major
tool.
We
just
made
a
change
on
that
in
november,
as
well
as
houselessness
and
housing
are
a
major
issue
right
now
in
san
jose,
not
an
obvious
one,
to
deal
with
in
the
charter.
But
if
there
are
examples
out
there
that
we
should
learn
from
that
would
be
really
valuable.
G
All
right,
thank
you
anything
else
right
now
that
comes
to
mind
all
right.
Well,
as
always,
if
there's
anything
else,
please
send
it
along
to
the
city,
clerk
or
I'll,
make
sure
that
you
all
have
my
email
in
this
next
round
of
communications
from
from
the
city
clerk
as
well
always
happy
to
hear
from
you
with
that
I'll
turn
it
back
to
the
chair.
D
Thank
you.
Everyone
thanks
for
that
really
thoughtful
conversation
with
our
guests,
as
well
as
the
great
ideas
in
terms
of
the
issues
that
we
need
to
bring
forth
at
this
time.
I'd
like
to
open
up.
I
want
to
make
sure
I
didn't
miss
anything
I'd
like
to
open
up
from
comments
from
the
public.
E
N
Hello,
so
a
city
charter
is
the
basic
document
that
defines
an
organization
the
powers,
functions
and
essential
procedures
of
city
government.
It
is
comparable
to
the
constitution
of
the
united
states
or
the
state's
constitution.
This
charter
is
therefore
the
most
legal,
the
most
important
legal
document
of
any
city
now,
regardless.
If
you
want
to
acknowledge
this
as
a
constant
convention
or
the
federalist
papers
or
a
check
of
the
box
for
council,
this
document
is
the
most
important
legal
document
of
any
city
and
from
landip's
editorial
comment
and
building
off
of
luis
borussio's
comments.
N
It
seems
they
have
revealed.
Perhaps
an
area
of
improvement,
which
is
council,
is
not
bound
to
the
decisions
of
the
board
to
the
recommendations
of
the
board
and
commission,
which
is
section
x
of
our
city
charter
on
page
35,
not
34,
as
listed
in
the
table
of
contents
and
boards
and
commissions
are
supposed
to
be
a
place
for
residents
to
be
more
involved
beyond
public
comment
and
beyond
voting.
N
This
is
what
we
were
told,
and
you
know
as
part
of
that,
but
as
it's
currently
written
in
our
charter
is
kind
of
seeming
to
be
a
toothless
process,
especially
if
they,
the
council,
have
the
power
to
kind
of
disregard
recommendations
and
change
whatever
they
want.
I
mean,
where
is
the
accountability?
N
You
know
to
the
people
in
that,
and
I
would
like
for
us
to
look
for
more
accountability
in
this
process
and,
additionally,
to
that,
I
think
it's
interesting
that
civic
education
stops
at
a
state
level.
Cities
were
completely
left
out
out
of
schools,
and
so
how
about
a
right
to
accessible
civic
education
on
a
city
level,
the
level
that's
the
most
impactful
to
us,
a
clear
process
to
position
participation,
and
it
means
to
do
so
and.
N
Under
the
equity
lens,
I
think
that
all
commissioners
should
be
stipend
and
I
did
write
a
letter
to
the
office
of
racial
equity,
petitioning
that
I
think
that
it's
a
privilege
for
people
to
volunteer
their
times
for
free
and
not
everybody,
has
that
privilege,
and
if
we
really
want
to
increase
diversity
of
voices
to
be
in
this
process,
then
we
need
to
remove
all
economic
barriers
to
do
so.
Thank
you.
J
B
Paul
soto
from
the
horseshoe-
this
is
an
interesting
conversation,
because
blair,
bateman
and
myself
literally
attend
every
single
council
meeting
for
the
entire
duration
of
the
council
meeting.
We
also
attend
every
single
subcommittee
meeting
for
the
duration
of
the
committee
meeting.
We
read
all
of
the
memos
and
we
comment
on
every
single
topic:
okay,
so
mr
beekman
and
myself
and
we've
been
doing
this
for
years.
B
Okay,
so
we're
bringing
a
perspective
that
echoes
on
a
daily
basis,
precisely
what
pancho,
guevara
and
camille
were
speaking
about.
Okay,
however,
there's
chicanos
on
the
west
side
as
well,
and
so
what
I
would
like
for
this
for
this
committee
to
do
is
a
little
bit
of
homework.
Read
starvation
under
the
orange
tree
written
by
john
steinbeck.
It
is
an
essay
that
he
wrote
while
spending
time
in
the
camps
on
the
east
side
in
sasi
puedes,
which
I
am
a
descendant
of.
B
I
am
also
a
california
registered
native
american.
I
am
a
part
of
the
kumihi
tribe.
We
were
the
first
ones
to
come
into
contact
with
junipero
serra,
so
this
is
the
space
in
which
I'm
moving
in
okay,
and
so
I'm
having
to
be
put
in
a
position
to
where
I
have
to
educate
anglos
on
their
history.
My
history
on
the
contemporary
context
in
which
power
is
administered
and
how
white
supremacy
affected
the
context
in
which
I'm
functioning,
okay
and-
and
he
articulated
that
clearly
in
those
books.
B
The
second
essay
is
dubious
battle
in
california,
written
also
by
john
steinbeck
after
you
spend
times
in
the
camps.
So
it's
interesting
to
hear
people
talk
about
equity,
but
they
don't
know
what
it
looks
like.
I
do,
because
I
am
the
product
of
inequity
over
decades
in
san
jose.
I
have
15
ancestors
buried
in
oak
hill
cemetery
as
a
testament
to
how
rooted
I
am.
J
Good
evening,
can
you
hear
me
yes
great
a
couple
of
points.
First,
I'd
like
to
tell
you
how
you
can
get
the
money
for
the
translation
services
that
you
want.
You
send
an
immediate
and
urgent
memo
to
the
city
council
signed
by
all
of
you.
That
says
you
cannot
do
your
job
and
you
will
not
fail
at
your
job
if
they
don't
provide
you
an
adequate
budget.
J
In
order
to
be
able
to
provide
translation
services,
the
city
is
going
to
spend
a
ton
of
public
funds,
putting
a
measure
on
the
ballot
and
someone
is
going
to
raise
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
in
order
to
finance
a
campaign
to
pass
a
charter
amendment.
It
is
crazy
to
be
cheap
on
translation
services
when
so
much
is
going
to
be
spent
on
those
other
aspects
of
the
project.
J
Secondly,
there's
been
a
lot
of
talk
about
the
difficulties
of
having
people
speak
for
a
minute
and
be
able
to
be
functionally
contributing
to
the
process.
That's
true.
Nobody
can
say
very
much
clearly
in
a
minute
and
there's
no
reason
to
limit
it.
That
way,
you
can
speak
to
people
for
five
minutes.
Ten
minutes
or
longer.
You
just
can't
do
that.
J
As
a
committee
of
the
whole,
you
need
to
decentralize
delegate
certain
people
to
meet
with
different
constituencies
and
have
long
lengthy
conversations
in
order
to
be
able
to
get
more
detailed
input
back
to
the
committee
of
the
whole,
the
people
you
delegate
to
can
report
back
and
finally,
in
thinking
about
how
you're
going
to
deal
with
these
structural
issues,
strong
mayor
or
some
other
instructor,
always
remember,
structure
is
a
tool.
What
you
first
want
to
be
thinking
about.
Are
your
goals
or
your
goals,
representation,
diversity,
accountability,
management
deficiency.
K
E
K
Okay,
all
right!
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
the
words
of
paul
soto
and
I
was
gonna
speak
on.
I
was
very
impressed
with
the
ideas
of
people's
budget
tonight
I
mean
the
fact
that
that
was
the
topic
of
conversation.
Thank
you.
You
know
it's
it's
it's
it's
difficult!
I
you
know.
K
This
was
a
few
months
ago,
and
you
know
for
as
much
as
we
study
these
things
and
talk
about
it
between
each
other
and
you
know,
studies
practices
in
city
government.
There
is
a
certain
taboo
to
talk
about
these
subjects
openly
and
publicly
to
say
that
these
are
our
better
ideals
and
our
better
persons
and
we're
just
learning
how
to
do
that
now.
I
think
so.
Good
luck
to
ourselves
in
doing
that
and
what
the
person
the
previous
speaker
just
spoke
about.
I
mean
to
myself.
K
I
feel
it's
really
important
that
that
is
sort
of
the
lens
that
we
use
in
our
decision
making
and
that's
the
most
vital
important
thing
it
is
from
that
we
can
talk,
maybe
have
a
possible
study
session
on
strong
mayor
proposal,
ideas
that
everyone
can
get
enough
sense
of
what
exactly
those
things
are,
but
it's
it's
my
hope
that
we
can
talk
through
the
lens
of
equity
and
reimagine
and
just
a
really
promising
future
of
you
know:
community
sharing
space
with
government
more
I
mean
that
is
the
goal
at
this
time
and
it's
very
very
possible
the
work
I
do
with
accountability.
K
A
Yeah,
I
just
I
think
this
is
a
really
important
conversation
tonight
about
how
do
we
do
civic
engagement?
I
just
want
to
take
the
commissioners
back
last
year
to
july
1st,
where
really.
A
A
That
were
done
with
pretty
much
zero
community
participation,
at
least
in
the
in
the
portions,
discussing
changes
to
a
strong
mayor
system.
Certainly,
there
had
been.
A
A
Certainly,
budgets
are
constraining
but
trying
to
think
about
what
kind
of
what
kind
of
action
this
commission
can
take.
There
are
a
lot
of
good
ideas
put
forward
by
commissioners.
Commissioner
bruce's
examples
around
looking
at
grant
funding
in
popular
education.
A
I
think
the
the
examination
of
what
resources
are
out
there
from
commissioner
matsumura
commissioner
calendar
also
had
some
some
some
good
ideas.
I
I
would
hope
that,
while
I
understand
the
meeting
is
over
here,
that
that
the
chair
takes
some
of
those
those
kind
of
best
practice,
ideas
that
that
came
from
the
commissioners
and
were
echoed,
I
think
in
the
the
the
comments
from
camille
and
pancho
and
and
we
we
don't
shy
away
from
asking
for
the
resources.
A
D
Great
thank
you
to
members
of
the
public
for
your
thoughtful
comments.
We
definitely
have
heard
them
and
we
will
be
working
on
the
plan
and
definitely
incorporate
your
input.
Any
final
questions
or
thoughts
before
I
close
us
out.
A
Rick,
mr
chairman,
can
I
ask
I
made
the
request-
and
I
don't
know
that
it
was
confirmed
that,
but
we
have
the
resources
discussion
on
the
next
agenda,
so
I'd
like
to
understand
how
the
resources
have
been
allocated
so
that
I
can
then
determine
what
action
that
I'll
be
calling
for.
Would
that
be
on
our
next
agenda.
D
Yeah,
why
don't
I
take
a
second
before
I
ask
for
commissioners
questions?
Maybe
I'll
answer
them
just
in
terms
of
next
steps,
so
we
heard
great
suggestions
from
our
two
guests
and
we
heard
great
suggestions
from
our
commissioners.
I
think
there's
two
issues
that
I
will
follow
up
with
in
terms
of
either
we're
going
to
get
them
as
agenda
items
to
discuss
if
they're
ready.
But
one
is
the
resource
question
like
what
are
the
resources
available?
I
I'd
I'd
like.
A
To
know
the
budget,
because
what
I've
heard
is
I
heard
that
400
an
hour,
you
know
what
it
takes
for
translation.
So
I'd
like
to
understand
what
are
the
resources?
What
are
the
budgetary
resources
that
have
been
allocated
towards
this
process
so
that
we
can
have
a
discussion
of?
Will
we
be
able
to
achieve
the
outcomes
that
we're
intending
to
achieve
with
those
resources.
D
I'm
sorry,
that's
exactly
what
I
was
trying
to
yes,
so
we
will
have
the
the
report
back
on
what
are
the
resources?
What's
the
budget
constraints,
what
are
all
the
things
that
the
city's
gonna
kind
of
start
with
and
then
we'll
be
able
to
have
the
discussion
of
what
do
we
need
that's
outside
what
those
those
needs
are.
We
can
go
back
to
mayor
and
council
to
make
those
requests
if
there
are
some,
so
that's
one
big
piece
of
what
we
need.
We
need
to
know
exactly
what
the
resources
are.
D
What's
the
budget
so
that
we
can
say
it's
not
adequate
or
it
is
adequate
which
whatever
areas
there
are.
I
think
the
second
piece
that
I
would
also
want
to
explore
with
the
city
is:
what
are
the
resources
that
are
that
came
up
tonight
like
suggestions
that
came
up
tonight,
partnering
with
cbo's
and
having
translation
services
from
the
community
and
any
of
the
resource
questions
that
came
up?
D
I
would
add,
in
addition
to
what's
the
current
kinds
of
resources
and
what
are
those
possibilities
if
we
haven't
asked,
perhaps
you
know,
perhaps
there
are
available
resources
that
we
just
haven't
asked
for
yet
so
having
a
kind
of
full
discussion
on
the
resources
to
me
is
a
really
important
next
step,
also
to
really
think
through
one
of
the
things
that
I'd
like
us
to
talk
more
about
we're
going
to
come
up
with
a
plan
just
as
a
draft
to
be
able
to
say
how
do
we
incorporate
all
these
pieces,
but
the
other
piece
that
I
think
is
really
important
is
understanding
the
communication
tools
of
the
city.
D
So
a
lot
of
questions
came
up
tonight
around
communications.
What
is
the
communication
plan
of
the
city
so
do
we
have?
Is
it
what
is
it
being
posted
on
now?
What
is
it,
what
are
the
possibilities,
what
it
could
be
posted
on
and
again,
if
that's
not
adequate,
then
what
do
we
want
it
to
be,
so
those
were
the
two
kind
of
homework
questions
I'd
like
to
come
back
with,
but
we'll
also
have
the
draft
of
the
rest
of
the
plan
to
be
able
to
have
a
really
fruitful
and
hopefully
decisive,
discussion
around.
D
Yes,
this
is
how
we
want
to
go
forward.
I
also
have
questions
about
public
hearing
and
I'm
going
to
go
back
to
the
city
attorney
around
our
public
engagement
processes.
So
a
traditional
public
hearing
is
a
listening
session.
It's
not
a
discussion,
but
things
like
the
people's
budget
process
and
others
are
very
discussion,
oriented
kinds
of
things,
so
I
just
want
to
hear
from
the
city
attorney
around
what
are
the
limitations
if
there
are
any?
D
What
are
those
kinds
of
things
so
that
we
know
what
we
can
come
back
with
again,
if
that's
not
adequate
or
meets
the
commission's
desires,
then
let's
have
a
discussion
around
that
and
see
what
other
things
we
want
to
do.
So
I'd
like
to
be
able
to
be
as
responsive
to
all
of
the
really
good
input
we
had
tonight,
as
opposed
to
saying
oh,
thank
you
very
much,
and
then
we
just
go
on
to
our
next
idea.
So
definitely
we
need
to
have
a
further
discussion
on
this.
D
A
A
I
I
just
we
need
translation,
we
absolutely
need
translation.
There's
there's
just
no
question
you
can't
you
can't
do
outreach
on
something
like
this
without
transit
translation
in
much
of
the
city
and
and
we
need
the
money
for
it,
I'll
I'll
sign
bob
brownstein's
letter.
That's
all!
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
marshman.
F
Thank
you
very
much
to
the
chair
and
and
lawrence
and
to
everyone
for
your
thoughtfulness
about
this
process,
and
I
I
will
confess,
I'm
I'm
feeling
some
some
time
pressure
about
really
making
concrete
progress
about
the
public
engagement,
especially
because
currently,
according
to
our
previous
meeting,
I
think
we
we
said
that
we
need
to
have
that
public
hearing
about
five
weeks
from
now,
and
our
next
meeting
isn't
until
four
weeks
from
now,
and
so
I'm
wondering
what
our
options
are
to
be
able
to
get
work
done
between
now
and
the
next
meeting.
F
I
don't
want
rotten
fruit
thrown
at
me
if
I
suggest
scheduling
something
for
february
22nd,
but
I
will
put
that
out
there.
I
also
don't
know.
I
think
we
had
requested
to
have
an
agenda
work
plan
agendas
for
action
at
every
meeting,
so
that
we
would
have
the
option
to
be
able
to
to
have
some
some
flexibility
around
that.
I
I
don't
know
under
the
current
agenda,
what
ability
we
have
to
to
propose
work
between
meetings,
but
I
wanted
to
to
put
that
out
there
for
recommendations
from
the
chair
or
or
any
others.
G
Great
and
magnolia,
I'm
sorry,
I
don't
know
your
last
name,
but
let's
call
you,
commissioner,
magnolia.
P
P
It's
attached
to
today's
agenda,
there's
a
hyperlink
that
goes
to
their
website,
which
then
goes
through
all
their
articles,
and
what
I
will
be
reading
is
the
four
first
four
recommendations:
five
first
five
recommendations:
the
first
four
are
not
very
long
what
they
want,
what
they
suggest.
We
read
13
pages,
13
pages,
17
pages,
17
pages.
That's
not
so
much
for
four
articles
that
they
hand
pick
that
they
think
is
relevant.
P
The
fifth
thing
I'll
be
reading
is
just
three
chapters.
I
don't
know
how
many
pages
it'll
be,
but
I
just
wanted
to
share
that.
Some
members
of
the
public
have
given
us
some
homework
and
I'm
gonna
do
it.
That's.
That
was
all
I
wanted
to
share.
C
I
think
I'll
just
make
this
quick,
because
I
know
we're
just
about
out
of
time,
but
I
do
think
it
would
be
helpful
for
the
commission
to
try
to
we've
had
a
couple
of
charter
commissions.
Many
of
the
people
who
served
on
those
commissions
are
still
around.
I
think
it'd
be
really
helpful
to
hear
about
some
of
the
challenges
they
had
as
reaching
out
to
different
community
groups,
how
they
overcame
some
of
those
challenges.
Budget
issues.
C
So
I
think,
there's
you
know
we're
we're
new
as
a
body,
but
a
lot
of
this
kind
of
work
has
been
done
before
in
the
city,
and
so
I
think
we
could
learn
a
lot
from
that,
and
so,
if
we're
going
to
bring
people
in
at
some
point
in
a
and
hopefully
a
a
meeting,
that's
not
too
far
away
to
learn
from
that.
I
think
that
can
really
help
our
work.
D
D
D
We
did
not
agendize
the
work
plan
again
tonight
because
we
weren't
changing
it
in
terms
of
just
trying
to
get
tonight
done
so
that
the
materials
that
we
have
for
tonight
can
be
the
addition
to
the
work
plan
and
that'll
be
on
the
agenda
for
next
time,
and
then
from
that
point,
if
we
adopt
the
the
work
plan
itself
in
terms
of
what
we
think
it's
doing,
then
we
could
look
at
the
question
of
do.
We
want
an
agenda
every
single
time
for
action,
or
are
there
actions
we
can
take
that?
D
Don't
have
to
necessarily
be
in
the
work
plan
as
we
move
our
work
forward.
I
think
that
was
the
question
that
you
were
asking
commissioner
matsumura
around
timing,
but
I
pre
you
know,
but
that's
why
we
are
taking
some
a
little
bit
more
time,
but
quite
frankly,
it
will
give
us
some
time
to
get
a
lot
of
this.
D
This
next
set
of
work
done
so
that
when
we
come
back,
we
will
have
a
pretty
fleshed
out
work
plan
and
some
kind
of
scheduling
around.
How
do
we
tackle
some
of
these
challenges
and
then,
hopefully
have
a
good
discussion
around
a
scope,
because
we
do
need
to
to
focus
our
scope
in
order
to
complete
our
tasks
in
terms
of
the
timeline.
D
F
We
did
have
suggestions
from
commissioners
and
members
of
the
public
to
divide
up
public
outreach,
so
in
the
spirit
of
commissioner
siegel's
homework,
I
I
have
a
list
of
folks
that
I've
been
intending
to
work
with,
and
I
wonder
whether
legal
barriers
to
commissioners
being
able
to
communicate
with
each
other
using
our
city
issued
email
addresses
which
are
posted
on
the
website
to
divvy
up
a
list
of
folks
that
we
want
to
be
reaching
out
to
in
between
now
and
the
next
meeting,
with
our
luxurious
time
off.
In
a
couple
of
mondays.
D
Yeah
our
luxurious
time
off,
since
I
know,
none
of
these
members
of
the
community
are
doing
anything
else.
What
I'd
really
be
careful
to
encourage
you
if
you,
if
you're,
going
to
be
in
your
district
and
you're,
going
to
be
because
you
represent
districts
and
getting
information
out
to
folks
in
your
district?
Having
those
conversations,
I
think
is
great
and
making
sure
that
you're
careful.
D
The
one
thing
I
would
say
about
the
brown
act
challenge
for
me
is
that
if
you
start
to
make
connections
with
each
other,
you
have
to
make
sure
that
everybody
who's
talking
to
somebody
else
is
still
in
your
bubble,
whether
you
know
it
or
not,
so
you
want
to
be
super
careful
around
communication
around
organism.
Organizing
folks
definitely
should
be
part
of
our
plan.
We're
going
to
have
to
divide
up
to
do
lots
of
different
community
engagement
experiences,
otherwise
we're
just
never
gonna
we're.
D
Never
gonna
engage
the
meaningful
meaningfully
the
public,
so
I
would
just
be
thought
just
be
careful
and
thoughtful
around
that,
and
then
this
next
month,
if
you're
in
your
district,
getting
representative
being
a
representative
of
the
district,
getting
your
information
that's
great
but
then-
and
I
and
if
it's
a
major
organization
or
a
major
person
in
this
area,
I'd
ask
you
to
wait
only
because
it'd
be
better.
If
we
all
made
that
as
part
of
the
engagement
and
then
divvied
it
up
that
way,
so
definitely
work
in
your
districts.
D
D
I
do
want
to
also
just
mention
that,
thanks
to
commissioner
matsumura
and
the
passage
of
the
memo
that
she
sent
us,
that
is
the
working
document
that
we
worked
on,
so
that
this
this
commission
adopted
that
memo
and
we
tried
to
fulfill
all
the
parts
of
it
tonight.
So
we
were
working
off
your
direction
and
I
just
want
to
always
go
back
to
like
we're
hearing
what
you're
saying
and
we're
doing
what
you're
saying
and
then
hearing
again.
D
You
know
how
we
got
it
right
or
not,
and
how
do
we
need
to
kind
of
move
forward?
So
I'm
hoping
people
feel
that
we've
and
we've
talked
about
had
a
conversation
in
depth
with
some
expert
outside
folks
about
public
engagement
and
now
we've
got
to
put
a
plan
together
to
actually
see
what
we
can
do
and
if
they're
not
the
resources
that
we
need,
then
we've
got
to
go,
get
them
or
figure
out
how
to
get
them
and
really
create
the
public
engagement
process
that
we
want.
D
So
I
would
ask
that
you
do
your
duty
in
representing
your
districts
to
get
the
information
and
input
and
let
people
know
I
mean
that's
the
one.
Other
thing
is
just
the
word
of
mouth
around.
You
heard
what
are
your
restrictions
around
communication
and
social
media
and
other
pieces?
So
if
you
want
to
get
the
message
out
about
within
your
district,
that
certainly
is
your
responsibility
as
a
commissioner.
G
We
have
magnolia
again
magnolia,
yes,.
P
I
just
I
would
really
be
curious
to
know
what
this
mayor
and
prior
mayors
feel.
Why
would
they
want
additional
power,
how
they
think
they
could
benefit?
What
is
the
reason
that
they
want
a
stronger,
mere
form,
the
current
mayor
and
also
interviewing
prior
mayors,
and
then
I
would
like
to
know
from
the
city
manager.
P
Hopefully,
the
city
manager
feels
comfortable
and
all
prior
city
managers.
What
is
their
opinion
on?
What's
working
with
the
city
manager
system
and,
what's
not
working
it'd,
be
good
to
know,
it'd
be
good
to
hear
from
the
people
that
actually
are
doing
these
jobs?
What
they
think
is
working
and
what's
not
working
from
their
perspectives?
D
Definitely
magnolia
we
have.
We
are
looking
at
reaching
out
to
former
mayors
as
well
as
former
members,
former
city
managers,
who
also
have
some
perspective
like
they
may
be
able
to
give
us
not
only
their
experience,
but
now
that
looking
back
on
it
here
are
the
things
that
I
see
now
that
I
didn't
see
before
so
they're.
D
Definitely
in
our
friends
that
we're
trying
to
convince
to
you
know
get
to
talk
to
us
about
some
stuff,
so
we
are
reaching
out
to
lots
of
folks
to
be
able
to
start
putting
these
things
together,
because
scheduling
and
calendaring
is
a
challenge,
but
definitely
one
of
the
former
mayors
we've
reached
out
to
another
and
one
of
the
city
managers.
If
there's
others
that
when
we
get
up
when
we
get
the
plan
kind
of
written
and
you're
like
yeah,
we
need
more
than
that.
D
I
also
think
looking
at
department
heads
I
mean
because
they're
the
ones
that
I
think
can
get
caught
in
the
between
the
city
manager
and
a
council
member
or
the
mayor's
direction.
So
is
there
are
there
you
know,
department,
heads
that
could
talk
to
us
and
be
able
to
be
free
in
talking,
and
maybe
that's
former
staff
members
who
worked
with
doesn't
have
to
be
this
mayor
and
this
council,
but
really
have
some
experience
to
shed
light
on.
D
E
We
don't
need
to
do
that,
but
we
do
need
to
take
open
forum,
but
you
you
do
not
need
to
motion
to
end
the
meeting
once
you
get
to
the
end
of
the
agenda.
It's
it's
over.
B
Thank
you
for
that.
Tony,
yes,
like
I
said
we're
gonna
we're
gonna
be
here
for
for
a
while.
I
really
want
to
appreciate
what
magnolia
was
saying
with
regard
to
discussing
this
with
prior
mayors.
I
would
like
to
caution,
though
fallon
statue
was
put
up
by
mchenry
and
ron
gonzalez
burned
us
for
10
million
dollars,
making
that
back
door
deal,
and
so
I
don't
know
if
they're
like
the
best.
You
know,
authorities
on
you,
know
these
types
of
issues,
but
I'd
just
like
to
put
that
out
there
for
consideration.
B
Secondly,
is
that
the
reason
why
I
gave
the
perspective
of
john
steinbeck
is
because
this
is
an
objective
way
to
assess
how
power
and
wealth
was
accumulated
in
san
jose.
We
still
have
not
discussed
the
power
dynamics
that
accumulated
and
concentrated
wealth
and
power
within
willow
glen
at
the
expense
of
my
ancestors
in
sausi
puedes.
B
That
has
to
be
talked
about
explicitly
explicitly
because
there
was
so
much
generational
trauma
that
flows
from
that
that
tentacles
into
drug
addiction,
imprisonment
over
policing
under
policing,
lack
of
resources
in
terms
of
the
infrastructure
in
sao
si
puedes
okay.
So
we
we
have
to
talk
about
that
and,
and
it
has
to
come
from
a
descendant
from
those
areas,
I'm
one
of
them,
and
so
that's
why
this
is
this
is
the
legitimacy
of
these
conversations
is
frustrating
at
times
because
I'm
having
to
educate
people
around
these
issues?
B
But
I
have
to
caution
you
that
when
you
read
it,
if
you're
a
human
being,
you
will
cry
if
you're,
not
a
human
being
you'll
just
go
ahead
and
dismiss
it
with
real,
just
cavalier
and
sausage,
which
is
pretty
much
the
attitude
that
dev
davis
demonstrated
at
the
listening
session
with
respect
to
the
community
engagement
with
regard
to
covid,
and
so
you
know,
we
really
have
to
start
understanding
that
we
have
to
start
claiming
our
humanity
in
these
spaces,
because
the
decisions
that
are
being
made
by
the
government
are
literally
impacting
people's
lives.
Thank.
K
Hi
thanks
a
lot
for
the
meeting
tonight
I
wanted
to.
I
left
I
wrote
a
a
public
comment
that
I
hope
you
guys
can
look
at
tonight.
You
know
it
spoke
about.
You
know
we'll
be
starting
the
impeachment
process
tomorrow
and
I'm
interested
how
we
will
be.
I
think,
an
important
lesson.
K
No
matter
what
happens
is
the
ideas
of
accountability
that
we
can
learn
from
it
and
that
I
think
we
should
all
be
respecting
basically-
and
you
know
at
an
interesting
time
that
that
that
accountability
is
also
the
same
concepts
that
something
is
really
hopeful
and
positive
at
this
time.
That's
really
idealistic
and
good
that
I
think,
can
invite
everybody
to
our
future
and
that's
where
the
unity
is-
and
I
you
know
it's-
it's
larger,
I
think
than
just
strong
mayor
questions
that
I
think
I
hope
we
have.
K
I
hope
it's
that
that
way
that
we
look
at
things
in
these
meetings
is
that
how
I'm
going
to
be
approaching
this
subject?
K
You
know
in
the
next
few
months
and
so
good
luck
in
your
efforts
about
the
language
issue.
You
know,
after
the
floods
happened,
there
was
a
big
uproar
that
you
know
in
city
government
we're
not
doing
enough
for
interpretation
issues.
Why
can't
we
just
call
our
energy
with
the
people
within
city
government
and
ask
a
bit
more
of
them,
and
that
can
be
a
non.
K
It
can
be
a
way
to
use
a
budget
that
is
not
very
expensive.
Basically,
and
I
hope
you
can
do
stuff
like
that,
I
wanted
to
conclude:
there's
a
long
history
of
san
jose.
You
know
using
this
process.
It's
based
on.
You
know
original
corrupt
mayor
systems
at
the
turn
of
the
night
20th
century.
K
D
Thank
you,
mr
beekman.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
you
knew
that
the
commissioners
did
receive
your
letter,
so
your
written
comments
were
received
by
the
commission
as
well.
Thank
you
all
for
your
attention
and
your
thoughtfulness
tonight.
I
really
appreciate
it
in
your
presence
and
we
will
see
you
next
time
and
we
are
adjourned.
Thank
you.
So.