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From YouTube: MAR 8, 2021 | Charter Review Commission
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City of San José, California
Charter Review Commission of March 8, 2021
This public meeting will be conducted via Zoom Webinar. For information on public participation via Zoom, please refer to the linked meeting agenda below.
Agenda https://sanjose.legistar.com/View.ashx?M=A&ID=846667&GUID=2B02AF6F-113F-4E2A-90AF-D74809A1E028
A
A
E
B
A
A
It
looks
like
we
at
least
have
quorum,
so
let's
get
started
good
evening.
Everyone
and
welcome
to
our
excuse
me,
our
san
jose
charter,
commission
meeting
of
march
8
2021,
welcome
on
this
special
night
of
international
women's
day
and
I'd
like
to
ask
the
clerk
to
take
the
role
to
establish
quorum.
D
C
Not
yet
you're
next
elizabeth,
okay,
ellie
matt
samara,
kara!
Thank
you
enrico
calendar.
C
Okay,
I'm
going
to
come
back
to
those
people
who
I
marked
absent,
because
I
see
that
dan's
entered
so
I'll,
come
back
to
everybody,
who's
absent
at
the
end.
In
case
people
sign
on
garrick,
percival.
H
C
I
J
C
A
D
A
Thank
you.
Let
us
begin,
then
tonight
I'm
going
to
move
us
through
our
agendas
expediently
as
I
can,
because
we
do
have
guests
coming
tonight
and
they're
on
time
certain.
So
if
we
can
move
through
this
first
part
of
the
agenda
I'll
try
to
keep
us
moving
so
good
evening
and
welcome
tonight,
we
have
the
first
item:
is
our
consent
calendar?
Can
I
get
a
motion
to
approve
the
concern?
A
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Lizot
in
a
second
second,
that's
a
motion
in
a
second,
so
the
clerk
can
take
the
role.
D
D
D
D
G
H
George,
my
first
meeting,
so
I
guess
I
I
I
don't-
have
a
vote
right
now,
right.
D
Okay,
oh
yes,
then.
D
K
L
C
C
A
A
It
was
really
helpful
to
for
just
from
an
organizational
perspective
to
get
all
the
data
that
we
got
and
you'll
see
some
of
it
reflected
in
tonight's
work
plan,
but
it
also
helps
us
in
our
planning
for
our
public
hearings.
17
folks
submitted
their
questionnaire
responses
with
lots
of
comments.
Great,
you
know
thoughtful
comments.
A
I
really
appreciated
lawrence
and
I
went
through
all
of
them
and
you'll
see
a
lot
of
them,
reflected
in
the
work
that
we've
put
together
tonight
in
the
work
plan
and
you'll
see
more
of
it
as
we
move
forward
in
our
civic
engagement
process.
So
thank
you
so
much
for
doing
that.
There
was
a
couple
of
questions
that
came
up
around
you
know
what
what
are
we
doing?
A
Civic
engagement,
I
thought
we
weren't
we're
going
to
do
so,
we'll
talk
about
that
as
we
get
to
the
work
plan
tonight,
but
it
really
helped
us
to
get
everything
down
on
paper
during
this
time
of
the
month
that
we
had
in
between
our
meetings.
So
thank
you
for
everyone
for
participating
in
that.
That
was
really
helpful.
I'm
now
going
to
turn
over
to
to
tony
to
welcome
our
new
two
commissioners
and
also,
and
then
we'll
move
into
our
our
next
business.
Tony.
J
J
C
You,
okay
real
quick
announcement.
You
we've
had
two
resignations
from
the
commission,
and
so
we
have
two
new
commissioners.
We
tran
for
district
four
and
george
sanchez
from
district
seven,
and
they
are
both
in
attendance
today.
A
So
welcome
to
both
of
you
thank
you
for
joining
us
and
we
really
appreciate
that.
Commissioner
matsumura
your
item,
your
question.
J
Yes,
thank
you.
I
was
looking
at
the
agenda
and
thinking
that
for
purposes
of
our
action
on
our
work
plan,
it
could
be
valuable
actually
to
be
able
to
take
into
account
anything.
We
learn
from
the
historical
presentations
that
might
inform
the
way
that
we
want
to
shape
the
approach
to
our
work,
and
so
I
know
you
mentioned
that
we
have
a
time
certain
on
those
I'm
wondering,
if
there's
any
flexibility,
to
actually
take
the
new
business
before
the
old
business,
so
that
we
can
benefit
from
the
learning
that
way.
A
You,
I
don't
think
we
need
to
because
we
can
take
action.
We
did
put
into
the
agenda
that
we
could
take
possible
action
after
the
discussion
with
the
our
guests
and
our
first
learning
session,
and
so
one
of
the
adjustments
that
I've
made
to
the
to
the
agendas
is
that
I've
put
things
in
for
motions
to
take
action.
So
we
don't
have
to
worry
about.
A
N
Just
a
quick
comment-
and
I
also
see
a
hand
raised
from
commissioner
calendar-
we
also
inviting
folks
we
have
to
choose
a
time
for
them
to
come.
So
we've
asked
our
guest
speakers
to
log
on
at
6
45,
so
that
would
be
the
earliest
that
we
could
actually,
assuming
that
they
actually
joined
at
6.
45
that'd
be
the
earliest.
We
could
move
that
agenda
item
up
to.
So
apologies
about
that
limited
flexibility.
N
A
N
F
Mr
chairman
hasn't
actually
agree
with
commissioner
matt's,
I'm
not
really
sure
what
she's
so
do
we
intend
to
we'll
hear
the
business
and
then
we'll
postpone
our
action
after
we
hear
the
new
business
and
then
come
back
for
action
on
the
work
plan.
Did
I
understand
it
correctly,
or
am
I
not
following
no.
A
I
think
what
I'm
saying
is
that
we
would
take
action
on
the
work
plan
and,
if
there's
additional
items
that
you
want
to
add
to
the
work
plan
or
to
give
direction
after
the
new
business
you
we
can
take
a
motion
at
that
time.
So
the
work
plan
is
going
to
be
an
ongoing
living
document.
So
I
I
assume
we're
going
to
change
it.
A
Almost
every
commission
meeting,
as
we
add
to
giving
staff
direction
around
what
do
we
need
to
do
next
or
now
that
we
know
that
we're
going
to
change
it
and
do
this,
so
I
think
we
can
ongoingly
be
adjusting
the
work
plan
as
we
as
we
move
forward
right,
we're
not
trying
to
get
a
document
that's
set
in
stone
forever.
A
We
really
need
it
to
be
able
to
have
that
flexibility,
so
tonight
we'll
take
up
the
work
plan
to
want
to
make
sure
you
understand
the
changes
that
have
been
edited
from
the
suggestions
that
you
all
made.
Can
we
get
it,
and-
and
is
there
direction
that
you
want
to
give
on
this?
So
the
motion
tonight
is
to
accept
and
then
other
possible
directions.
A
You
may
suggest,
then,
we'll
have
the
new
item
with
the
new
business,
which
is
to
the
study
session
around
the
1985
commission,
which
again
came
from
your
request
and
then,
if
again,
if
there's
direction
at
that
point,
we
will
entertain
motions.
Then,
after
our
public
public
comment,
so
we
have
the
ability
to
make
adjustments
along
the
way
and
I'll
continue
that
process
throughout
so
that
we
never
feel
like
well,
we
said
we
had
to
do
this,
and
so
now
we
can't
change
it.
We'll
always
be
kind
of
ongoingly
adjusting
the
work
plan.
A
Okay
items
before
any
other
comments,
I
see
no
other
hands
okay,
so
let's
take
up
the
old
business,
which
is
the
revisiting
the
work
plan
tonight.
What
we'd
like
to
do
is
we're
going
to
hear
from
tony
that's
going
to
be
giving
you
responses
to
the
questions
you
had
on
the
two
areas
that
you
that
came
up
from
our
earlier
questions
around
the
the
scope
of
the
budget
and
the
the
civic
engagement
promotion
from
the
city,
then
we're
gonna.
A
Actually
I'm
asking
lawrence
to
walk
through
the
revisions
that
were
made
in
the
work
plan
itself.
So
everyone
can
kind
of
just
see
where
the
adjustments
are
then
we'll
open
it
up
for
discussion
and
then
the
public
comments
and
then
we'll
come
back
for
possible
action.
A
So
I'd
like
to
get
a
vote
to
adopt
the
work
plan
as
it
is
tonight
with
the
adjustments
that
you
want
to
make
if
there's
further
recommendations,
but
I
kind
of
want
to
move
us
from
talking
about
the
work
plan
to
get
the
work
plan
in
place
enough
that
we
can
start
moving
forward
as
they
say
we
can
adjust
it
as
we
go,
but
let's
kind
of
go
in
that
way,
all
right.
So,
let's
start
with
a
presentation
from
tony
that's
going
to
start
answering
some
of
the
questions
that
commission
raised
around
this.
A
C
Hello,
I'm
trying
to
find
it.
I
have
so
many
open
windows
so
hold
on
just
a
second.
It's
not
really
a
presentation.
I'm
just
going
to
talk
about
the
memo
that
I
submitted
to
you
guys.
So
we
we
definitely
a
goal
of
the
city.
Clerk's
office
is
to
increase
public
access
to
city
government.
C
To
that
end,
I
was
able
to
get
approval
for
using
a
consultant
to
help
facilitate
these
meetings,
because
it's
you
guys
have
a
lot
to
do
in
a
very
short
time
to
do
it.
So
I
felt
it
was.
It
was
money
well
spent
to
have
a
consultant
come
in
to
really
help
focus
everybody
to
stay
on
track,
to
get
the
work
done,
but
no
additional
money,
especially
due
to
the
covid
budget
cuts,
was
provided
to
us
for
translation
interpretive
services.
C
The
council
general
is
budgeted
for
about
64
000
a
year
for
to
provide
translations
and
interpretation
for
council
meetings.
So
it's
not
a
lot.
So
if
you
looked
at
my
my
my
memo,
I
have
it's
190
per
hour
for
spanish
interpretation
and
280
for
vietnamese
interpretation
of
meetings.
C
Our
current
council
policy
is
to
provide
interpretation
upon
request.
The
goal
of
this
meeting
was
or
for
charter
review.
Commission
is
for
you
guys
to
get
the
background
to
learn
about
the
different
forms
of
government
and
then,
when
you,
when
you
kind
of,
have
a
proposal
that
you're
you're
ready
to
kind
of
put
out
there
to
bring
in
public
hearings
and
to
get
public
comment
and
do
interpretation
for
those
kind
of
meetings.
C
So
there's
something
for
them
to
see
and
hear
from
you
and
that's
kind
of
what
we
do
with
the
city
council
offices
for
translation
of
documents,
the
lowest
cost
estimate
I
got
for
translating.
Council
agendas
was
15
cents
per
word
and
we
can't
auto
translate
with
software
to
bring
the
cost
down.
There's
too
many
technical
terms
in
government
to
trust
that
auto
software
would
interpret
things
correctly.
C
I
was
working
a
city
once
where
auto
translator
had
put
a
council
candidate
as
being
a
member
of
a
cult
instead
of
a
member
of
a
church.
So
it's
things
like
those
little
nuances.
That's
that's
a
big
difference
for
cult
versus
church,
so
we
cannot
use
auto
translating
to
bring
that
cost
down.
Auto
translating
cuts
the
cost
down
by
about
a
third.
So
it's
a
huge
savings,
but
it
doesn't
work
well
for
us.
C
Our
current
outreach
is
that
it's
posted
on
the
insight
page
with
all
the
other
agendas.
I
send
the
agenda
link
to
all
of
the
city
council,
not
just
city
council
members,
but
all
city
council
staff,
so
anybody
who
has
contact
with
with
the
city.
You
know
that
this
council
staff
is
really
out
there.
C
We
also
post
links
to
the
agenda
on
twitter
and
then
it's
also
promoted
through
the
city's
youtube
page,
and
then
you
guys
had
asked
for
what
are
all
the
other
outreaches
that
we
have
access
to
at
the
city.
So
I
did
include
a
link
to
the
all
the
social
media
and
internet
accounts
with
the
city.
C
One
thing
that's
changed
since
our
last
meeting
was
I
have
had
a
city
clerk
youtube
channel,
where
I
could
post
things
how
to
read
an
agenda
how
to
participate
in
a
meeting.
I
have
a
couple
I
just
recorded
how
to
how
to
apply
to
boards
and
commissions.
C
So
that's
that'll
be
posted
this
week,
but
that's
been
moved
from
our
city
clerk
page
to
the
city,
the
cities
page,
the
main
city
page,
which
is
really
exciting,
because
it'll
have
more
outreach,
so
I'll
be
doing
more
of
those
videos
that
will
be
reaching
out
to
a
wider
swath
of
the
community
at
first
they're
going
to
be
english,
I'm
not
scripting
them.
It's
just
me
talking
as
I
develop
scripts
for
them.
C
I
can
have
bilingual
staff
film,
their
own
versions,
so
currently
they're
english-only
videos
that,
with
the
plan
to
script
them
out
and
have
them
at
least
in
spanish
and
vietnamese,
but
in
the
city
clerk
world.
We
also
look
at
chinese
and
tagalog
because
those
are
our
election
languages
mandated
by
the
state
of
california
to
translate
election
stuff
into.
C
So
the
second
page
of
my
memo
is
just
a
postcard
graphic.
I
didn't
I
was
going
to
go
ahead
and
have
it
translated,
but
I
wanted
you
guys
to
see
it
first.
Maybe
you
guys
have
have
something
else
I
should
put
in
there
to
make
it
more
exciting
or
you
think.
Maybe
the
wording
is
just
too
dry
or
whatever
or
feedback.
C
So,
civic
makers
is
your
meeting
facilitator
they're,
not
they
don't
work
for
me.
They
work
for
well,
they
work
kind
of
work
for
me,
but
they're,
not
my
my
staff,
so
they're
not
here
to
facilitate
postings
to
the
internet,
they're,
not
managing
the
website,
they're,
not
doing
the
social
media.
That's
all
city
employees
well
lawrence
and
his
team
are
here
to
keep
the
discussions
organized
there's.
You
know,
23
people
there's
a
lot
to
accomplish
in
a
short
amount
of
time.
C
So
what
he's
doing
is
helping
you
get
the
information
you
need
to
make
the
decision
that
you
make
and
to
keep
the
meetings
on
track,
because
it's
very
easy,
especially
in
a
large
group
of
people,
to
kind
of
go
down
a
rabbit
hole
towards
something
that
was
part
of
what
you're
supposed
to
be
looking
at.
So,
if
you're
supposed
to
be
looking
at
what
form
of
government
and
then
you
kind
of
like
I'm
the
queen
of
falling
down
the
rabbit
hole
when
I'm
doing
research,
it's
like.
Oh,
this
little
thread
looks
really
interesting.
C
I'm
going
to
go
over
there
lawrence
is
to
keep
us
from
doing
that
and
to
keep
us
on
the
job
that
the
council
has
asked
you
to
do.
A
Thank
you
tony,
and
I
see
two
hands.
Commissioner
tran.
E
C
For
interpreters
and
meetings
yeah
we
use
well,
we
use
professional
interpreters,
we
don't
use
city
staff
city
staff
is
good
for
like
counter
work
or
going
out
and
talking
to
people,
but
whenever
we
have
a
council
meeting
or
any
sort
of
public
outreach
meeting,
we
always
professionals
and
we
try
to
use
the
same
professionals
that
work
with
governments,
because
there
are
a
lot
of
our
terms
that
when
an
interpreter
first
comes
to
us
they're
like
I
don't
even
know
what
you're
talking
about
so
a
lot
of
times,
they're
reading
the
material
ahead
of
the
meeting,
so
they
could
kind
of
figure
out
what
type
of
stuff
they're
going
to
be
interpreting.
C
So
it
gets
really
complicated,
especially
when
you're
looking
at
like
housing
and
planning
issues
that
are
environmental
things.
It
could
just
get
really
confusing.
So
we
do
definitely
use
professionals
they're,
not
necessarily
court
certified,
but
they're
professional
interpreters
who
are
neutral
parties
too,
because
what
we
don't
want
is
somebody
with
sort
of
an
agenda
to
do
your
your
interpreting,
because
you
want
to
know
that
it's
not
somebody
from
the
planning
department
who's
trying
to
push
people
to
go
a
certain
way.
E
C
E
C
I
would
use
professional
translators,
yes,
because
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
people
who
may
be
bilingual
for
work
purposes
may
not
be
as
fluent
in
translating
documents
as
you
would
want
them
to
be
because,
like
somebody
might
be
able
to
talk
to
somebody
at
the
counter
and
help
them,
but
not
necessarily
be
able
to
translate
something
for
them.
So
I
use
professional
translation,
for
I
might
do
like
a
quick
email
if
it's
one
or
two
sentences
to
a
customer
with
with
a
staff
person
but
any
documents.
F
Yes,
thank
you
got
a
couple
questions.
I
know
the
last
time
we
talked
about
a
translation.
We'd
also
talked
about
outreach,
and
I
don't
see
any
kind
of
outside
of
the
volunteers
here.
Taking
on
the
outreach,
I
didn't
see
any
kind
of
budget
included
for
outreach.
I'm
trying
to
put
together
my
head
a
request
that
we
can
make
of
counsel.
Obviously
you're
saying
this
wasn't
budgeted,
so
I'm
hoping
to
make
a
holistic
type
request
of
counsel
as
we
talked
about
before.
So
if
so,
I'm
hoping
that,
maybe
we
can
next
meeting
bring
something
back.
F
That
would
not
only
look
at
this,
but
also,
I
know
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
historical
historical.
What
had
happened
historically,
my
understanding
is
that
it
may
have
been
outside
council
historically,
that
was
assigned
to
the
signed
to
the
commission.
So
if
that's
the
case,
I'd
even
probably
want
to
make
requests
for
that,
as
well
as
an
outreach
as
well
as
a
researcher
budget.
Now
this
goes
back
to
to
the
clerk
one
of
the
things
that
you
mentioned.
C
Well,
lawrence
has
done
some
research
because
he
put
together
the
city
charter.
101.
megan
did
has
done
a
lot
of
the
historical
document.
Research,
that's
been
posted
on
our
website.
She's
done
the
research
on
to
the
other
cities,
so
the
I
think
it's
20
cities
that
have
their
charters.
Megan
did
all
of
that.
So
our
any
research
would
be
done
by
my
staff
or
interns.
I
have
we
have
one
intern
who's
us
who
is
working
with
you
guys.
C
I
think
we
could
have
research
handled.
I
actually
researched.
That's
like
the
my
favorite
thing
to
do
in
the
world.
I
spent
my
whole
weekend
researching
things
for
my
daughter
or
helping
her
research.
I
I
think
with
with
megan
and
corinna,
and
I
we've
got
research
covered
so
so
through
the
chair.
If.
N
I
could
commissioner
calendar
can
I
just
provide
a
little
more
context
on
our
scope.
Our
scope
is
basically
three
buckets.
One
is
essentially
discovery
and
planning.
The
the
planning
piece
is
ongoing,
managing
the
work
plan,
and
I,
including
that
scheduling,
guest
speakers,
that
kind
of
outreach
as
it
comes
up
the
biggest
bucket,
is
meeting
facilitation
and
that
breaks
out
into
working
with
the
chair
to
design
the
meeting
agenda,
facilitating
these
meetings
and
taking
notes
and
then
preparing
meeting
minutes
and
summaries.
N
We
have
budgeted
up
to
60
potential
meetings
because
we're
unsure
about
how
the
scope
of
this
is
going
to
go,
and
so
that
number
that
you
saw
as
an
nte.
You
know
this
is
a
not
to
exceed
contract
for
for
time
and
materials.
N
The
last
bucket
is
a
smaller
bucket
for
analysis,
summaries
and
reporting
there's
a
little
bit
of
scope
for
research
and
analysis.
The
majority
of
it
is
is,
is
bucketed
towards
majority
of
minority
reports
at
the
end
of
of
of
this
process
to
support
you
all
in
developing
those
reports
as
necessary.
So
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
a
bit
more
detail
about
about
what
we
are
contracted
to
do
so,
there's
some
flexibility,
but
also
just
to
make
sure
that
we
fulfill
the
scope
of
our
contract.
F
So
so,
mr
chairman,
I
think
where
I'm
trying
to
head
is,
I
think
we
don't
have
a
full
picture
of
basically
the
costs.
I
think
that
will
be
borne
by
this,
including
the
outreach
costs
are
pretty
much
not
here.
Could
I
can
I
ask
you
for
our
next
meeting
to
maybe
have
staff
assimilate
or
pull
together
an
item
that
would
potentially
have
all
the
costs,
so
we
can
make
a
a
full
recommend
date
or
a
full
request
from
council
for
the
cost.
That
would
include
better
outreach,
translation
services.
F
If,
if
the
staff
believes
that
we
would
need
additional
staff
for
research
capabilities,
I
think
that
you
know
I
look
to
you
tony
for
that,
but
also
potentially
outside
council.
So,
and
I
have
no
idea,
if
indeed
we
did
if
they
did
have
outside
counsel,
I
know
we'll
be
hearing
about
that
later
on.
But
if
that's
indeed,
what
was
the
support
that
was
provided
to
prior
commissions?
I
would
ask
for
the
same
so.
A
Thank
you,
commissioner,
calendar,
and
I
will,
as
we
get
to
the
place
of
the
the
next
piece
of
this,
which
is
the
adoption
of
the
work
plan
that
can
easily
be
added
to
as
a
again
that's
the
direction
you
want
us
to
move.
If
the
commission
supports
that,
we
will
continue
to
do
that.
I'm
going
to
move
us
to
commissioner
marshman
and
then
commissioner
fuentes.
D
Thank
you
quick
question,
and
maybe
this
isn't
the
place
for
it,
but
talking
about
research,
there
are
some
specific
ideas
that
people
have
brought
up
to
me.
My
dentist,
for
instance,
of
things
that
we
should
be
looking
into,
and
one
of
them
is
the
relative,
the
cost
of
doing
a
moving
to
a
stronger
mayor,
maybe
not
super
strong
mayor.
D
D
A
I'm
going
to
hold
that
question
council
member
merchant.
I
think
that's
a
good
question
that
we
all
need
to
have
a
conversation
about,
but
give
me
a
little
bit
of
time
to
do
it
when
we
get
to
the
outreach
piece.
I
want
to
hear
from
the
commission
around
what
roles
you
want
to
play.
Commissioner
fuentes.
A
B
You
so
thank
you,
tony
for
the
presentation
and
this
information
I
just
wanted.
I
had
three
comments
particularly
related
to
the
language
issue.
So,
first
of
all,
I
am
I'm
happy
to
hear
that
the
the
city
focuses
on
the
same
languages
that
we
use
for
the
ballots.
B
So
I
think
if
we
work
and
think
in
that
terms,
like
spanish
vietnamese
to
golic
and
chinese,
it
narrows
it
to
something,
that's
possible
and
me
and
manageable,
and
then
also
I
I
like
the
idea,
because
it's
just
you
know,
maybe
the
only
unrealistic.
The
only
realistic
thing
we
can
do
is
to
wait
until
we
actually
have
an
idea
or
a
plan
that
we've
kind
of
determined
is
is
the
beginning
of
our
recommendation
before
we
go
out
into
the
community,
because
I
think
you
know
we
have
to
let
them
know
what
we're
doing.
B
What
this
is
for
and
then
to
be
able
to
actually
talk
about
something
concrete
will
will
really
make
it
meaningful
for
them
to
to
give
us
input,
and
then
the
other
thing
I
wanted
to
suggest
is
today
when
we
have
our
speakers.
Maybe
that's
something
we're
already
doing,
but
we
should
ask
each
of
them
when,
when
they
were
doing
the
charter
review,
how
they
handled
outreach-
and
you
know
what
they
did
in
the
community
because
at
minimum
I
hope
that
we
will.
B
You
know,
as
rick
is
saying,
submit
a
proposal
to
the
city
council,
but
at
minimum.
I
hope
that
we
do
as
much
as
was
done
in
the
past,
because
if
in
the
past
they
had
good
results,
then
we
should
be
thinking
well.
We
want
to
do
similarly
so
that
we
can
also
have
good
results
to
engage
the
community
and
and
do
the
best
job
possible
in
terms
of
our
recommendations.
L
Thank
you.
Could
you
hear
me?
Yes,
okay,
perfect,
so
good
evening,
everyone
in
terms
of
tony's
postcard,
so
first
thank
you
tony
for
for
putting
this
together.
We
really
appreciate
it
in
reading
it
in
the
first
sentence.
I
wonder
if
a
word
choice
could
be
looked
at,
so
the
charter
review
commission
is
examining
the
city's
governance
structure
and
soliciting
community
input
on
strong
mayor
systems.
So,
instead
of
strong,
I
wonder
if
it
can
just
say
soliciting
community
input
on
different
mayor
systems
or
various
mayor
systems.
C
L
You,
okay
and
the
second
sentence
of
the
goal
of
their
work,
and
it
ends
before
the
colon
not
limited
to.
I
wonder
if
it's
just
me
right,
but
I
wonder
if
that
can
be
two
sentences.
I
don't
know
if,
if
breaking
that
up
it
is,
it
is
a
little
wordy,
especially
if
it's
followed
by
by
a
list.
So
I
wonder
if
that
can
just
be
cut
down
because
again
like
this
is
just
going
to
be
a
very
small
snapshot.
L
I
don't
want
to
lose
people
in
the
second
sentence,
because
what
we
do
is
is
is
at
the
end
and
then
in
terms
of
please
visit
us
at
and
the
websites
there
if
there's
a
possibility
that
that
could
be
shortened.
Obviously
a
postcard,
I
imagine,
is
going
to
be
mailed,
it's
going
to
be
put
up
on
bulletin
boards
to
type
that
out
with
all
the
dashes
and
backslashes.
That
is
a
lot
of
characters,
so
I
don't
know.
B
C
The
I
can't
talk
with
our
web
designer
for
making
a
short
url,
because
he's
done
that
for
me
for
the
elections.
L
A
We're
almost
there
we're
almost
there.
This
is
just
questions
for
tony
about
her
her
memo
and
we're
going
to
get
to
the
work
plan.
Next.
Okay,
perfect!
Thank
you!
That's
it.
If
anybody
else
has
comments
specifically
on
the
editing
of
the
postcard
I'd,
ask
that
you
just
send
those
directly
to
tony
and
that
way
we
can
keep
moving
forward.
Commissioner,
matsumura.
J
Thank
you
so
so
you
know,
I
think
that,
in
order
to
succeed
in
the
responsibilities
that
we've
been
given
entrusted
with,
as
a
commission,
we've
got
to
have
three
components
right:
we've
got
to
have
the
public
engagement,
both
information
from
the
public,
as
well
as
bringing
them
along
with
our
learning,
so
that
they're
in
a
good
position
to
give
feedback.
J
We've
got
to
have
the
policy
research
and
analysis,
and
then
we
have
to
have
the
ability
of
the
commission
to
to
construct
some
pretty
complex
policy
approaches,
potentially
to
the
information
that
we
take
in
and
so
in.
Looking
at
where
we
started
with
resources
and
really
appreciate
tony
that
you
saw
that
we
were
going
to
have
that
need
for
consultant
support
and
and
that
we
have
that
support
from
lawrence.
On
that
front,
I
I
do
think
that
we
have
needs
for
other
resources
if
we're
going
to
be
really
successful
in
our
approach
right.
J
J
I
do
think
that
we
need
other
resources
right,
like
we
have
community
organizations
that
day
in
day
out,
are
talking
to
the
members
of
our
community
about
the
issues
that
affect
their
lives
and
that's
what
they
do
and
that's
what
they're
expert
at
and
so
and
they
are
much
better
than
I
am
at.
You
know
saying:
what's
the
way
to
do
that?
Is
it
a
postcard?
You
know
what
times
of
day
or
should
the
meetings
be
etc.
J
I
think
you
know
barbara
commissioner
marshman
gave
an
excellent
example
of
that
and
that,
and
that
also,
I
think,
we're
going
to
need
the
outside
council
so
that
if
we
need
to
take
some
very
creative
approaches
so
say
we
want
to
make
these
changes
to
the
powers
of
the
mayor
and
we're
going
to
complement
that
by
changing
up
the
way
that
these
city
manager
powers
look
and
these
city
council
powers.
Look
I'm
making
that
up.
J
Obviously,
but
that
is
that,
I
think,
is
the
kind
of
creativity
that
we
are
called
upon
to
undertake
and
that
that's
going
to
require
not
only
and
by
the
way,
thank
you
so
much
to
the
city
clerk's
office
for
doing
that.
Work
that,
I
think
is
just
above
and
beyond
what
we
expect
day
in
day
out
from
the
city
clerk's
office,
to
compile
those
city
charters.
J
But
we
also
need
the
research
capacity
who
can
look
at
the
charters
and
give
us
some
comparative
analysis
of
what
do
we
see
there
and
and
then
also
research,
the
data?
How
do
we?
How
do
we
understand
what
we
see?
You
know?
What
are
the
cost
impacts
that
commissioner
marshman
was
talking
about?
How
do
we
understand
the
indicators
of
what's
working
better
or
worse
in
different
cities?
A
N
Great,
can
everyone
see
my
screen?
Yes,
fantastic
all
right,
I'm
gonna
walk
us
through
what
has
changed
in
the
work
plan
and
hopefully
set
up
some
conversations
based
on
what
you
all
have
already
shared.
Some
of
you
shared,
and
I
think
some
of
the
questions
that
have
been
raised
in
the
past
and
some
outstanding
questions.
N
Based
on
what
we've
heard
so
far,
I
want
to
reiterate
that
the
survey
that
you
all
filled
out,
while
not
definitive
as
far
as
a
vote,
was
very
helpful
in
us
under
for
us
understanding
where
interest
for
commissioners
lie
in
understanding
which
topics
to
dive
into
and
what
type
of
guest
speakers
we
want
to
have
come
to
visit,
and
I
think
that
that
is
basically
the
first
big
change
to
the
the
work
plan.
The
the
rest
of
it
up
to
the
meeting
schedule
was,
I
think
unchanged.
N
I
will
say
that
the
way
that
we've
been
approaching
the
the
research
and
analysis
piece
of
this
is
to
find
experts
and
past
participants
in
this
process
and
those
with
lived
experience
governing
in
san
jose
to
help
to
answer
some
of
these.
These
questions,
and
so
I
the
process
of
finding
those
people,
understanding
their
availability
and
getting
them
in
the
schedule
is
ongoing
and
there's
some
folks
that
you
know,
I
think,
can
be
a
proxy
to
research
direct
research,
if
not
part
of
that
direct
research.
N
So
that
is
one
tactic.
We
are
using
to
just
respond
to
commissioner
matsumura,
but
you
know
totally
understood
that
there
might
well
be
moments
down
the
road
where
there
is
additional
specific
research
necessary.
N
So
we
are
right
now
march
8th
and
we
are
going
to
talk
about
a
little
bit
of
history
of
previous
charter
review
processes
in
san
jose
and
to
better
understand
the
historical
context
of
the
current
commission.
To
do
that,
we
had
initially
asked
three
past
charter
review.
Commissioners
we'd
asked
blanca
alvarado
from
the
1975-1976
commission,
which
had
put
forth
the
recommendation
to
move
to
district
elections
to
join
us.
N
Unfortunately,
she
double
booked
and
was
not
able
to
to
join
us,
and
it
also,
I
think,
was
pretty
clear
that
that
some
of
the
specifics
around
community
outreach
are
are
difficult
to
to
remember
specifically
because
of
that
that
the
that
time
span.
So
we
do
have
joining
us
tonight,
john
marshall,
collins
and
bob
brownstein,
who
both
participated
in
the
1985
charter.
Commission
mr
brownstein
particular
has
participated
and
listened
in
on
on
your
commission
meetings
and
contributed.
N
So
these
were
recommendations
made
by
a
number
of
you
as
well
as
some
outside
folks
that
that
I
reached
out
to
march
22nd.
We
wanted
to
dig
into
the
nuances
between
the
council
manager
and
mayor
council
forms
of
governments,
which
is
probably
the
the
biggest
issue
that
folks
really
wanted
to
to
learn
more
about,
and
then,
if
at
all
possible,
present
some
research
as
it
exists
right
now
on
the
effectiveness
of
different
models,
I
think
effectiveness
could
be
cost.
As
we
just
heard
someone
speak
about,
it
could
be
policy
impacts.
N
N
They
have
a
local
governance
program,
there's
others
that
were
reaching
out
to
to
speak
to
that,
but
we
also
want
to
put
together-
and
this
is
where
one
of
the
interns
we
have
karina
is
helping
us
right
now
put
together
a
chart
that
a
lot
of
you
spoke
to
about
the
the
basic
differences
between
mayor
council
and
council
manager
as
far
as
the
the
specific
breakdown
of
roles,
responsibilities
and
powers
and
authorities.
N
So
we
do
hope
to
have
that
chart
ready
for
you
by
next
monday
to
post
ahead
of
this
meeting
if
we
can
get
a
column
based
on
san
jose
in
there
as
well.
We
have
looked
at
some
of
the
research
that
has
been
done
by
other
cities
and
other
commissions
there's
some
good
stuff
out
there.
None
of
it
is
as
comprehensive
as
you
might
think.
N
As
far
as
like
a
really
quick
to
re,
quick
and
easy
to
read,
chart
so
just
know
in
our
process
we're
trying
to
leverage
what
else
has
already
been
been
done
out
there
by
different
communities.
On
april
5th,
we
had
a
a
deeper
dive
into
san
jose's.
Current
system
of
governance
there's
practical
implications.
N
There
are
some
specific
sections
of
the
city
charter
that
some
of
you
all
wanted
to
speak
to,
in
particular,
section
411,
the
council
and
interference
with
administrative
matters
that
sort
of
bright
red
line
between
policy
and
and
staff
implementation,
and
then
digging
into
some
of
the
specifics
of
how
the
the
city
organization
functions.
N
In
these
articles
we
have
tentative
acceptance
from
former
city
manager,
deb
feguera
as
well
as
former
mayor
ron
gonzalez.
We
have
a
few
other
invitations
out,
so
we'll
see
who
can
join
us
there,
but
again
trying
to
respond
to
your
request
to
have
actual
past
electeds
and
and
administrative
officials
speak
to
the
commission
lawrence.
It's
yeah,
oh
figoni.
Oh
I'm!
Sorry,
gosh,
everybody's.
N
On
april,
19th,
we've
been
talking
a
lot
about
sort
of
the
other
cities
that
have
gone
through
a
similar
process
so
walking
through
some
case
studies,
and
if
we
can
find
some
some
examples,
or
at
least
someone
to
to
guide
us
through
what
alternative
or
third
forms
of
government
are
outside
of
mayor
council
and
council
manager
forms.
Then
we
also
wanted
to
include
that
on
april
19th
and
on
may
3rd,
we
wanted
to
talk
to
two
other
topics
that
were
very
popular.
N
It's
not
the
right
word,
but
of
interest
of
of
the
most
interest
to
the
folks
that
responded
to
the
survey,
power
and
accountability,
metrics
and
mechanisms
for
the
various
governance
roles
and
also
how
the
role
of
districts
and
how
council
members
are
elected,
has
changed
the
power
dynamics
in
san
jose,
and
I
think
this
also
gets
into
kind
of
the
practical
implications
of
of
the
current
model.
So
those
are
the
the
research
topics
that
we've
talked
about.
The
the
notion
here
has
been
to
to
hold
a
public
hearing
of
some
kind.
N
I
I
do
think
that
one
of
the
things
that
has
also
come
out
in
this
process,
which
is
going
to
be
a
conversation
the
commission
needs
to
address,
is
that
there
are
a
number
of
folks
who've
already
heard
on
tonight's
call.
That
felt
as
if
the
public
hearing
should
be
hosted
when
there
is
the
right
moment
when
there
is
a
proposal
to
share.
N
When
there
is
a
question
to
ask
what,
in
the
community
engagement,
section
or
community
engagement
approach,
I
tried
to
sort
of
highlight
the
need
for
us
to
be
specific
about
what
we
were
asking
of
the
community
in
order
to
honor
their
participation.
N
So
that
was
when
we
had
planned
for
the
first
public
hearing
kind
of
a
general
feedback
on
what
we've
learned
so
far.
But
if
your
thoughts
on
that
would
love
to
hear
them-
and
it's
also
a
great
point
to
get
into
the
charter
discussion,
we're
again
relying
on
those
three
primary
buckets
that
city
council
had
mapped
out
for
this
commission,
the
overall
governance
structure
and
election
timing.
N
We
thought
that,
after
that,
there
would
be
after
the
commission
has
a
chance
to
to
discuss
initial
questions.
To
go
back
out
to
the
public
and
host
a
public
hearing
in
language
on
july
12th,
there
is
a
city
clerk's
office
break
they'll
be
out
of
the
out
of
the
office,
so
this
is
a
proposed
commission
break
as
well
to
just
respect
tony
and
her
team,
and
then
because
that's
also
when
the
council
is
out
for
a
number
of
weeks
and
then
basically,
this
bookmark
for
additional
measures.
N
What
these
additional
measures
look
like
how
they're
decided
upon,
I,
I
assume,
will
be
emergent
from
the
conversations
that
happen
throughout
the
study
sessions,
and
so
I
think
that
there's
an
invitation
for
you
all
to
really
decide.
You
know.
Where
else
do
you
want
to
go
here
as
far
as
that?
Third
bucket
of
accountability,
transparency
and
equity
in
in
governance
in
san
jose?
N
I
don't
think
that
there's
any
kind
of
consensus
that
I've
heard
about
what
those
additional
measures
are,
and
so
this
is
something
that
will
be
an
ongoing
conversation,
as
fred
mentioned,
we'll
be
updating
the
work
plan
as
there
is
a
a
consensus
or
a
strong
direction
or
inclination
from
the
commission
and
then
finally
another
hearing
on
those
additional
measures
and
then
move
into
the
commission
reports.
This
is
all
tentative.
We
don't
know
how
long
it's
gonna
take
to
have
some
of
these
conversations
or
draft
reports.
N
N
The
other
section
I've
added
here
is
the
community
engagement
approach.
I
wanted
to
capture
what
has
been
talked
about
so
far,
so
that
we're
building
basically
a
an
approach
and
a
process
so
that
we
can
really
hone
our
engagement
chops
and
make
sure
that
the
right
folks
are
being
integrated
into
this
process
and
their
voice
being
heard
at
the
right
points.
So
I
call
them
touch
points,
but
the
commission
website
is
an
obvious
one.
Commission
meetings
is
probably
the
most
obvious
one
and
then
public
hearings.
N
There
may
be
other
touch
points,
but
I
leave
that
for
all
that,
for
you
all
to
decide
and
as
far
as
what
we
are
asking
or
the
activities
for
around
those
touch
points.
My
sense
is
that
we
want
to
be
specific
with
the
community
about
the
asks
and
we
will
need
to
develop
those
specific
set
of
questions
or
asks
for
the
community
in
our
process
here.
N
So
there's
a
lot
of
talk
about
public
engagement,
I
invite
the
commission
to
start
to
get
specific
about
what
that
really
means
to
whom
and
when
and
why
and
that's
a
really
important
question
for
any
kind
of
community
engagement
to
move
from
the
intention
and
notion
of
involving
folks
to
actually
what
it
really
looks
like
and
and
when
it
happens
and
and
and
what
we're
talking
about
so
a
couple
examples
of
what
that
could
be
not
definitive,
but
just
as
a
bookmark.
N
The
outra
outreach
activities,
I'm
tracking
here
this
is
incomplete.
Compared
to
what
tony
shared
tonight.
The
youtube
channel
is
not
here,
but
just
really
want
to
bookmark
what
the
city
can
offer
and
if
there's
other
ways
the
city
can
help
promote
the
commission's
work,
then
we'll
track
it
here
and
I
will
work
with
tony
and
megan
to
make
sure
that
that
happens.
Commissioner
outreach
we've
talked
a
little
bit
in
the
past
about
in
this
part
of
the
survey.
N
Who
are
you
all
talking
with
now
and
who
might
you
commit
to
sharing
the
work
of
the
commission
with
an
ongoing
basis,
especially
when
there's
a
specific
ask
and
I'll
get
to
the
appendix
here
at
the
very
end?
N
But
this
was
the
list
of
all
the
the
groups
that
have
been
brought
up
by
folks,
which
becomes
a
working
outreach
list,
a
working
stakeholder
list
for
us
to
really
leverage
and
fred,
and
I,
in
our
review
this
felt
really
good
about
the
all
the
connections
and
intentions
you
all
brought
to
this
list
and
if
we
can,
if
we
can
really
keep
this
list
informed,
then
I
think
that's
a
pretty
amazing
thing
and
really
gets
us
ahead
of
you
know,
potentially
where
even
past
commissions
have
been,
and
then
finally,
this
section
here,
I
think,
speaks
to
some
of
the
questions
that
have
been
brought
out
about
budget.
N
I
phrased
this
fairly
openly
in
order
to
allow
for
that
kind
of
very
conversation,
but
I
think
that
we
heard
loud
and
clear
that
the
notion
of
community
partners
to
support
the
public
engagement
of
this
commission
is
is
probably
going
to
be
really
important
and
so
just
wanted
to
acknowledge
that
that
is
part
of
the
burgeoning
community
engagement
approach,
and
so
it's
it's
in
in
the
work
work
plan
here
as
such,
I
also
came
up
with
some
public
messaging,
just
as
a
first
pass
of
how
we
talk
about
governance
and
charter
reviews
in
a
more
plain
language
kind
of
way.
N
I
had
not
seen
tony's
language
when
I
posted
this,
so
apologies
for
the
miscommunication
there,
but
I
would
welcome
any
feedback
you
have
on
this,
but
I
do
think
the
question
of
how
we
talk
about.
This
is
really
critical,
and
I
appreciate
commissioner
borosio's
continual
revisiting
the
point
of
strong
versus
weak
is
not
a
great
framing,
and
so
that's
one
example
of
what
it
means
to
really
get
boil
this
down
into
the
plain
language
necessary
to
talk
to
the
public.
N
So
those
are
the
changes
we
made
to
the
work
plan,
we're
going
to
pause
and
what
we'd
like
to
do
is
just
open
up
the
floor
to
questions
from
commissioners
and
then
we'll
have
public
comment
and
a
vote
to
approve
the
work
plan.
We
do
have
a
one
of
our
our
guest
speakers,
john
marshall
collins,
has
a
hard
stop
at
7
45
mr
collins
and
mr
brownstein
should
be
on
the
on
the
line
right
now.
N
So
if
we
start
to
go
over
too
much,
we
might
pause
on
that
and
come
back
just
so
we
can
honor
their
time,
but,
as
chair
ferrer
said,
we've
tried
to
structure
the
the
agenda
so
that
we
have
plenty
of
time
to
talk
about.
You
know,
motions
to
for
action
based
on
this
revisions
through
this
work
plan.
Okay,
sound
good
fred.
A
Now,
you're
muted,
yes,
we
can
pause
and
come
back
after
they're
our
visitors
and
I'm
gonna
also
ask
that
folks,
the
cameras
are
having
a
hard
time
saying
who's
speaking.
So
when
I
call
on
you,
if
you
could
just
say
your
name
first
and
that
way,
the
camera
can
find
your
find
you
in
your
name
quicker,
so
that
folks
know
who's
speaking
so
appreciate
that
and
lawrence
I'm
going
to
turn
it
back
over
to
you.
A
I
see
there
are
a
couple
hands
up
if
people
do
want
to
ask
questions
or
make
a
comment,
please
make
sure
you
raise
your
hand
and
we'll
try
to
go
through
everyone.
N
Yeah
and
I'm
going
to
try
and
make
sure
that
everyone
has
a
chance
to
speak
once
before
someone
speaks
twice
but
right
now
I
see
commissioner
calendar
and
then
commissioner
percival.
F
All
right,
first
of
all,
I
want
to
compliment
you
lawrence
all
the
work
that
you
did
on
this.
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
work
that
went
into.
I
think
it
does
capture
a
lot
of
the
things
that
we
talked
about,
and
I
do
see
the
community
partners
and
hopefully
we'll
the
staff
will
be
able
to
recommend
a
budget
for
the
community
partnership
portion
for
outreach.
I
think
that'll
just
make
us
more
successful
here.
F
Right
now
we
would
be
doing
additional
things
way
at
the
end
and
we'd
be
jamming
ourselves.
If
we
know
the,
if
we
know
the
size
of
the
elephant
that
we
have
to
that,
we
have
to
deal
with
right
in
the
beginning,
then
we
can
plan
it
out
a
little
bit
better.
So
so,
mr
chairman,
I
don't
know
the
proper
way
to
do
this.
I
don't
want
to
make
a
motion,
but
I
do
I
would
like
to
invite
the
public
to
come
in
and
say
on
the
charter.
F
We'd
like
you
to
look
at
a
b
c
d
and
e.
I'm
really
not
sure
what
the
public
wants
to
see
from
us.
I
do
know
the
council
said
to
look
at
the
things
that
you
have
on
april
5th,
but
I
think
the
public
also
should
have
the
opportunity
to
drive
our
discussion,
so
we
can
plan
it
out
a
little
better.
So,
mr
chairman,
I
look
to
you
and
how
you
want
to
handle.
If
you
want
just
comments
and
then
we
look
to
motions
in
the
end.
A
I
think
we'll
just
look
to
motions
in
the
end
just
so
we
can
hear
folks
just
remember
that
all
of
our
meetings,
the
public,
does
have
access
to
make
public
comments.
So
just
remember
that
a
public
hearing's
not
the
only
way
we
can
do
it,
but
that
will
hear
that
that
those
feedback
along
the
way.
Thanks,
though
we'll
just
wait
till
the
end
and
then
I'll
I'll,
look
for
motions.
G
Yeah,
thank
you
and
thank
you
lawrence
for
that
presentation.
I
just
had
a
comment,
and
maybe
we
can
talk
about
this
later,
but
I
would
suggest
adjusting
the
our
conversations,
our
analysis
of
the
timing
of
elections
and
moving
it
moving
it
up.
Actually,
the
I
see
the
two
is
very
connected
between
the
timing
and
the
structure
of
government,
in
terms
of
who
actually
elects,
let's
say,
a
more
powerful
mayor
and
how
you
know
how
broad
that
participation
is.
G
So,
I
think,
in
terms
of
the
discussion
on
the
third
of
accountability
who
elects
or
how
members
of
the
council
are
elected,
I
think
it'd
be
important
to
introduce
the
timing
of
elections
not
only
to
the
commission,
but
also
to
the
broader
community,
because
those
two,
those
two
things
are
are
very
closely
linked.
I
think
discussing
one
without
the
other
would
be
not
not
give
us,
but
also
the
more
you
know,
just
as
importantly,
the
public
a
sense
of
how
those
two
matter.
N
Great
appreciate
that,
thank
you
other
comments,
questions
on
the
the
work
plan
as
it
stands
right
now,
commissioner
borosio
and
then
vice
chair
johnson.
L
My
my
comments
are
around
the
dates
and
especially
in
the
times
where
it
does
jump
right.
For
example,
we
did
jump
just
recently
right.
We
went
from
not
seeing
each
other
for
a
while
and
that's
going
to
happen
again
with
memorial
day
and
possibly
in
july
again.
L
So
I
wonder
I
don't
know
what
the
solution
is
is
maybe
when
we
can't
meet
on
a
certain
monday,
because
we're
on
off
on
off,
maybe
right
after
the
monday
that
we
can't
meet
the
following
mondays
when
we
meet
right
as
opposed
to
keep
jumping
off
and
on
or
if
we
can't
meet
that
monday,
because
it's
a
federal
or
state
holiday
that
we're
observing,
we
move
the
monday
meeting
to
a
tuesday.
So
it's
still
the
beginning
of
the
work
week
per
se,
but
not
a
monday.
L
So
I
don't
have
the
solution,
but
I
just
propose
that
because
I
think
once
we
start
getting
into
the
crux
of
things,
we
do
miss
a
lot
of
discussion
time
if
we
keep
jumping
from
month
to
month,
to
month
when
we
observe
a
holiday.
Okay,
that's
it
thank.
N
You
noted,
thank
you,
bye,
sure.
M
Christina
johnson,
so
I
had
a
question
about
a
commissioner
matt
samara's
memo.
I
know
that
we
had
a
motion
to
integrate
this
into
a
work
plan
and
I
don't
really
see
it
in
here
so
so
I
was
wondering
why
that
was
because
I
thought
that
she
set
out
a
pretty
good
plan
about
doing
community
engagement
process
and
then
I
also
have
a
question
about
the
date
about
doing
community
engagement.
I
mean
if
we
really
want
to
be
intentional
and
have
a
robust
engagement
process.
M
We
need
to
be
reaching
out
to
cbo's
already,
and
you
know
we
need
people
to
have
enough
time
to
talk
to
folks
and
get
them
ready
to
be
involved
in
this
meeting,
and
so
I
have
a
question
about
that.
One
too.
So
thank
you.
M
Yeah,
so
one
of
the
things
was,
you
know:
auditioning
training
around
the
brown
acts
for
commissioners.
I
think
that
would
be
useful
because
I'm
still
understanding
you
know
what
it
means
to
be
a
commissioner
who
I
can
talk
to
who
I
can't
talk
to
and
I
feel
like,
because
I
I
didn't
really.
I
don't
really
understand
those
parameters,
I've
kind
of
been
limited
in
who
who
I'm
talking
to
about
this
and
getting
ideas?
M
So
that's
when
and
then
she
also
mentioned
evidence-informed
best
and
promising
practices
for
representation,
including
accountability.
You
know
practice
the
date
that
the
city
has
used
that
has
been
really
effective
like.
I
would
want
to
know
more
about
that
to
see
how
we
can
can
incorporate
that
into
this
process.
N
Yeah,
okay,
we,
we
can
definitely
add
more
around
that
and
look
into
it.
We
did
have
mark
vani.
The
city
attorney
speak
a
little
bit
more
about
the
brown
act,
so
we
tried
to
address
that
concern
there,
and
we
also
had
poncho
and
camille
speak
about
they
weren't
evidence-based
practices,
but
they
were
practitioners
in
the
community
engagement
that
we're
trying
to
actually
meet
the
spirit
of
commissioner
matsumuru's
memo.
N
So
if
there
are
other
specific
ways
that
we
can
get
you
the
information
that
you're
interested
in
you
know,
I
think
like
at
this
point.
Specifics
is
great
and
we
will
do
our
best
to
accommodate
that,
but
definitely
noted
you
know
the
those
and
we'll
see
what
we
can
do
next
time
around
on
this.
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Fuentes.
B
Thank
you.
This
is
maria
fuentes,
and
I
was
thinking
that
I,
like
the
the
basic
outline
and
the
information
that
that's
been
presented
on
the
work
plan
and
for
me
I
would
like
to
hear.
B
I
know
bob
brownstein
is
already
here
and
I
don't
know
if
john
marshall
collins
is
here,
but
I
really
would
like
to
hear
their
experience
with
the
charter
review
process,
because
I
think
that
that
will
inform
us
in
in
where
we
go
with
our
plan,
and
I
mean
there
are
some
real
specific
things
that
I
I
want
to
comment
on
particularly
related
to
the
plan
and
and
how
we
implement
it.
B
But
but
I
really
am
interested
in
hearing
our
speakers,
so
we
can
ask
them
questions
if
there's
areas
that
we
want
to
know
more
about
and
and
help
us
as
we
proceed.
N
Great,
they
are
on
they're
on
the
line
and
waiting.
Commissioner
tron
and
commissioner
amador.
E
Oh,
I
got
it,
I
think
this
is
we
try
and
I'll
I'll
keep
the
question
focused,
so
we
can't
go
to
the
presenters
in
terms
of
the
data
how
the
data
gets
presented
and
where
you're,
drawing
your
data
from.
Are
you
focusing
on
on
cities
of
a
certain
size
to
to
to
to
analyze
and
research
before
this
information
gets
presented
back
to
the
commission,
yeah.
N
Commissioners
have
made
a
request
to
hear
about
the
process
of
similar
sized
communities
going
through
a
similar,
similar
set
of
questions.
You
know
basically
evaluating
a
not
a
strong
mayor,
but
a
mayor
council,
so
yeah
that's
been
the
request
and.
N
Yeah
yeah,
commissioner
amador.
M
Yes,
this
is
veronica
mador
and
my
questions
goes:
will
this
be
translated
into
different
languages
and
also
do
we
need
to
make
a
motion
just
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
forget
to
use,
so
we
can
start
using
more
of
different
governance
styles
rather
than
strong
and
weak.
M
Would
that
need
to
be
added
to
emotion
and
as
well
as
survey?
I
know
that
we're
talking
about
the
outreach
and
we
this
is
open
to
the
community.
However,
many
of
our
community
members
might
not
know
how
to
do
how
to
get
in
how
to
log
in
or
might
not
have
the
time
can
we
put
something
such
as
a
survey
out
there,
where
they're
able
to
put
in
their
comments
right.
M
N
Thank
you.
I
can't
speak
to
whether
this
will
be
translated
and
when
you
say
this,
you
mean
the
work
plan
right,
yeah
got
it.
N
Anyone
else
that
wants
to
speak
now
before
we
have
our
guests
join
we'll
take
two
more.
I
see,
commissioner
matsumura
and
mr
sanchez
and
then
we'll
hit
pause
and
come
back
to
questions
and
discussion
after
after
new
business,
we'll
return
to
old
business
after
the
new
business
commissioner
matsumura.
J
You
actually
just
answered
the
question
that
I
have
so
thank
you
for
that.
N
Okay,
great
and
commissioner
sanchez
you're
a
mute.
D
D
Their
thoughts
are
concerning
this,
this
committee,
so
I
think
we
we
have
to
take
a
look
at
how
and
how
we.
O
D
H
A
look
at
how
best
we
can
do
that
anyway,
but
I
think
we
have
to
explore
that
a
little
bit.
Those
are
my.
N
Comments.
Thank
you
great.
Thank
you.
So
much
appreciate
that
and
welcome
aboard
okay.
So
we're
gonna
pause
on
this
right
now,
tony.
If
you
could
make
mr
collins
and
mr
brownstein
panelists.
N
Okay,
all
right,
so
we
see,
I
see
there,
they
are
great
okay.
I
would
like
to
welcome
a
whole
new
world
of
zoom,
I'd
like
to
welcome
our
two
guest
panelists
tonight,
robert
bronstein
and
john
marshall
collins.
Both
participants
in
the
1985
charter
review
commission
and
they
have
graciously
agreed
to
share
their
experience.
And
what
I'd
like
to
do,
gentlemen,
is
to
put
two
questions
to
you.
N
We'll
have
you
both
respond
to
the
first
question
and
then
we'll
have
you
both
respond
to
the
second
question
and
then
we'll
have
time
for
for
questions
from
the
commissioners.
The
the
first
question
I'll
read
both
questions
and
then
we'll
have
your
your
responses
to
the
first
question.
The
the
first
question
is
based
on
a
lot
of
interest
from
commissioners.
What
was
the
historical
context
for
why
your
commission
was
founded
and
if
you
could
share
since
you'll,
be
both
speaking
about
the
the
same
commission?
N
N
P
Well,
I
think
in
large
part
there
was
a
perception
and
an
argument
going
on
in
the
community
about
the
level
of
power
that
was
enjoyed
by
the
bureaucracy
and
the
the
perception
on
the
part
of
some
people
that
it
really
didn't
matter
a
huge
amount.
P
What
the
council
members
were
bringing
to
the
table,
supposedly,
you
know,
representing
the
elements
of
the
community,
didn't
make
a
big
as
big
a
difference
there
as
what
the
city
manager
thought
or
what
a
particular
department
had
thought,
and
you
know
I
mean
this
is
not
an
unusual.
Even
then
was
not
an
unusual
discussion
because
a
lot
of
the
bigger
cities
and
at
that
time
in
85
san
jose,
was
becoming
a
bigger
city,
a
lot
of
bigger
cities.
P
Do
it
a
different
way
and
and
are
not
so
devoted
to
a
city
manager
situation.
And,
of
course,
if
you
look
around
the
american
politics,
almost
everything
bigger
than
a
city
is
run
in
somewhat
of
a
different
way.
Some
counties
definitely
use
a
sort
of
a
county
executive
which
is
very
similar
to
city
manager,
but
above
that
in
in
state
legislatures
in
the
in
the
united
states
government.
P
Obviously
nobody
in
the
bigger
areas
employs
someone
who
has
the
kind
of
clout
the
city
manager
has
so
at
that
time
we
certainly
had
a
mayor
who
felt
very
strongly
about
his
ability
to
lead
and
that
that
was
impeded,
and
so
I
think
mayor
mchenry
was
basically
the
person
who
was
to
an
extent
behind
the
organization
of
a
charter
review
commission
that
had
a
purview
that
included
you
know
a
re-exploration
of
the
city
manager,
form
of
government
versus
the
council,
mayor
form
of
government
and
within
that,
certainly
there
was
a
lot
of
talk
about
whether
I
mean
at
that
time.
P
P
Is
now
more
than
just
an
11th
vote
on
the
council
and
that's
the
that
was
sort
of
the
result
prior
to
85
prior
to
measure
j
which
passed
as
a
result
of
our
commission
and
others
work.
The
the
the
mayor
was
more
of
a
presiding
officer
and
less
of
a
leader
and
when
that
got
done
that
had
been
adjusted
and
ratcheted
up
some,
and
I
I
think
you
guys
might
like
to
hear-
I
don't
know
if
you're
planning
to
hear
from
the
ex-mayor
mchenry.
P
Unfortunately,
next
mayor
hammer
is
not
with
us
anymore,
so
we
can't
get
her
impressions.
I
heard
that
ron
gonzalez
is
going
to
come
and
speak
and
I'm
sure
that
our
current
mayor
will
also
have
some
ability
to
be
heard
here,
but
that
that,
in
my
mind,
is
was
the
hort
historical
context.
N
Fantastic
thank
you
and
we
have
reached
out
to
mayor
mchenry
waiting
to
hear
back
so
great.
Thank
you
so
much,
mr
collins,
we'll
come
back
to
you,
mr
brownstein.
Would
you
care
to
share
your
thoughts
on
the
historical
context,
the
the
task
that
the
85
commission
was
put
to.
H
Sure,
good
evening,
everyone,
I
think
the
1985
commission
was
created
to
deal
with
two
major
issues
of
governance
that
were
being
played
out
in
the
city
of
san
jose.
H
H
The
city
manager
had
a
political
base,
the
old
guard
in
san
jose
and
had
complete
control
of
information
and
the
ability
to
do
deep
analysis
of
public
policy
issues
and
people
who
look
at
the
model.
We
have
today
can't
really
appreciate
the
extent
to
which
the
city
manager
was
a
dominant
force
back
in
those
old
days.
I
mean,
I
remember
one
time:
a
different
city
manager
from
different
city.
Tom
luck,
city
manager
from
sunnyvale
ruled
with
an
iron
hand.
H
I
was
once
at
a
meeting
where
I
mentioned
an
idea
that
I
think
supervisor
susie
wilson
had
and
he
erupted
what
you're
proposing
something
from
an
elected
official.
An
elected
official
has
a
policy
idea.
It
was
like
I
told
him
that
a
squirrel
in
my
backyard
had
given
me
a
public
policy
idea.
Now
today,
it's
a
totally
different
world
council
members
and
the
mayor
routinely
launch
public
policy
initiatives.
H
They
they
have
staff,
they
have
the
ability
to
do
analytical
work
and
really
the
city
manager
is
reduced
to
trying
to
struggle
through
priority
setting
sessions,
to
make
sure
that
the
work
that
they
give
his
people
isn't
so
overwhelming
that
they
collapse
from
an
inability
to
do
it.
All.
What
the
1985
commission
did
to
in
terms
of
this
issue
was
to
define
the
mayor
as
the
political
leader
city
give
the
mayor.
Some
additional
budgetary
authority
create
an
office
of
policy
analysis
to
do
research
for
the
council.
H
That
office
has
since
been
abandoned
and
also
gave
the
council
the
ability
to
affirm
or
reject
new
appointments
for
department
heads
so
essentially
what
it
did
was.
H
It
gave
the
mayor
the
ability
to
be
a
a
strong
political
leader
if
the
mayor
had
the
capacity
to
form
a
coalition
of
the
members
of
the
city
council
and,
from
my
perspective
once
that
capacity
was
given
to
the
mayor
and
mayors
have
taken
it
since
then,
the
issue
of
the
relationship
between
the
legislative
body
and
the
city
manager
has
largely
been
resolved
in
san
jose
to
the
overwhelming
v,
an
overwhelming
victory
of
the
legislative
body.
H
H
They
did
not
represent
the
full
diversity
of
san
jose.
That
was
changed
through
district
elections.
Unfortunately,
black
alvarado
wasn't
here
to
talk
about
the
charter.
Commission
that
dealt
with
that
issue,
but
district
elections
started
to
move
the
council
towards
a
more
representative
role
and
in
1985
really
you
had
the
first
generation
of
district
elected
officials
who
were
just
getting
their
feet,
wet
and
and
and
learning
the
ropes.
H
But
as
I
look
at
what
has
happened
since
1985,
I
have
to
conclude
that,
although
there
has
been
some
significant
improvements
in
the
area
of
representation,
they
haven't
been
nearly
enough.
Yes,
there's
more
diversity
on
the
city
council,
but
the
fact
is.
It
was
only
last
year,
last
year,
30
years
after
actually
35
years
after
the
1985
commission,
that
the
council
finally
started
to
talk
about
having
explicit
racial
equity
objectives
in
san
jose.
H
So,
there's
still
a
lot
of
work
to
do
on
the
representation
and
equity
front
and
that's
an
area
where
I
think
the
issue
is
not
fundamentally
resolved.
That's
one
where
a
future
city
charter,
commission
aka,
you
guys-
can
can
make
some
initiatives
and
help
resolve
the
what
we
were
unable
to
fix
adequately
back
in
1985.
N
Fantastic,
thank
you.
So,
let's
go
to
the
second
question
and
we'll
hear
from
both
of
you
and
then
we'll
open
it
up
to
questions
from
the
commissioner
commissioners.
N
N
P
Okay,
well,
there's
nothing
that
would
be
more
more
disappointing
and
frustrating
for
the
commission
than
to
spend
what
appears
to
be
a
year
or
more
in
this
process
and
then
find
that
it
doesn't
have
enough
support
on
the
city
council
to
put
a
measure
on
the
ballot
to
change
the
charter,
which
is
what
has
to
happen.
P
There
has
to
be
support
for
it
on
the
city
council,
so
one
recommendation
I
would
certainly
make
is
is
that
I
believe
if
I
understand
the
way
things
have
gone
this
year,
that
that
most
of
you
are
appointed
by
a
single
council
member.
Is
that
right?
P
Yes,
and
so
I
think
everyone
has
to
take
the
responsibility
to
keep
in
touch
with
that
council
member,
the
person
that
appointed
you
and
maybe
to
keep
in
touch
with
a
few
other
people
on
the
council
or
maybe
to
keep
in
touch
with
the
mayor
or
people
who
are
on
the
mayor's
staff.
P
There
needs
to
be-
and
I'm
not
saying
that
you
should
be
directed
by
by
these
folks,
but
it
will
be
a
giant
waste
of
time
if
you
do
something
that
can't
get
six
votes
on
the
council
or
maybe
seven
or
however
many
it
takes
to
put
something
on
the
ballot
at
the
time
of
the
last,
not
the
last
one,
maybe
but
the
one
I
sat
on
in
1985.
P
I
know
we
we
all
engaged
in
quite
a
bit
of
discussion
with
our
various
council
members
and
I
don't
think
I've
looked
around
at
the
count
at
the
commission,
many
old
friends,
by
the
way
hello
to
all
of
you-
and
I
don't
think
anybody
there's
anybody
there-
that's
going
to
get
pushed
around
by
the
council
or
take
direction
from
the
council.
P
That's
obviously
not
your
role,
but
on
the
other
hand,
it's
it's
good
to
have
some
mutual
communication
there
and
it
may
be
the
most
useful
communication
you
have,
because
those
actually
are
people
who
sort
of
know
what
the
problems
are
that
are
they're,
trying
to
solve
right
now.
P
The
another
comment
I
would
make
is
that
that
you
know
you
definitely
want
to
have
plenty
of
public
input
into
this
and
transparency
and
those
things
are
all
important.
On
the
other
hand,
when
it
comes
to
these
kind
of
abstruse
political
science,
questions
that
you
guys
are
trying
to
solve,
there's
not
a
lot
of
deep
knowledge
out
there
among
the
community.
P
So
you
have
to
be
very
careful
to
to
focus
community
comments
and
try
to
find
out
what
you
know
what
they
would
like
and
also
what
they
wouldn't
like.
P
Problems
associated
with
it
and
it's
hard
to
get
community
comments
on
this.
I
also
served
on
the
1990
commission
that
redistricted
san
jose
and
boy-
we
I
mean
redistricting-
brings
out
terrific
or
perhaps
emotional
comments.
I
mean
there
are
a
lot
of
well-defined
groups.
There
are
people
doing
research,
there
are
people,
you
know,
but
there's
not
all
you
can't
just
go
to
a
community
group
and
say
what
do
you
think
about
governance
in
san
jose
people
have
to
get
prepared
for
that.
So
it's
not
necessarily.
P
True
that
you're
going
to
get
too
much
out
of
them
out
of
the
public
meetings,
even
though
they're
absolutely
necessary
and
appropriate,
so
that
those
are
kind
of
my
my
thoughts
at
a
at
a
a
process
level
in.
In
the
end
of
of
our
commission,
there
was
some
disagreement
and,
and
the
disagreement
centered
around
how
far
we
would
go
to
harness
the
bureaucracy,
and
there
were
some
pro
some
proposals
that.
P
Perhaps,
with
suburging
from
the
mayor's
office
were
dropped
at
the
last
minute,
whether
those
would
have
been
good
ideas
or
not.
I
don't
know
bob,
and
I
were
both
involved
in
that
process
and
and
in
the
end,
voted
in
the
minority
on
on
dropping
those
proposals,
but
you
also
have
to
figure
out
how
how
much
impact
you're
going
to
allow
voices
on
the
council
or
the
mayor's
office
to
have.
P
P
The
issue
of
you
know
who's
in
charge
here
and
appropriately
left
it
in
in
the
enhance
of
the
people
who
were
actually
elected
not
in
the
hands
of
unelected
bureaucrats.
P
So
you
know
you
can
tweak
that,
and
I
probably
no
longer
would
give
too
much
extra
power
to
the
mayor,
although
I
was
a
strong
advocate
for
it
35
years
ago,
but
I
do
think
bob's
comment
about
seeking
new
forms
of
equity
and
it's
it's
not
the
easiest
thing
in
the
world
to
do
to
figure
out
exactly
how
to
change
a
governance
structure
to
to
seek
that
to
some
extent,
district
elections
and
and
the
way
districts
are
set
up
and
so
forth
was
intended
to
to
help
that,
and
it
did
help
that.
P
But
but
that's
that's
the
real
challenge
to
you
guys
now
is
to
to
actually
see
what
you
can
do
that
would
that
would
work
that
would
make
things
better
in
that
direction.
N
Fantastic,
thank
you,
mr
collins,
appreciate
it
hold
tight.
We're
going
to
have
mr
brownstein
share
his
recommendations
and
they'll.
Take
some
questions
before
you
have
to
leave.
Mr.
H
Brownstein
so
I
mean
I
would
certainly
agree
with
john
that
yeah
you
need
to
have
reality
tests
in
your
thinking.
You
don't
want
to
come
up
with
something
that
the
council
will
totally
reject.
You
don't
want
to
come
up
with
something
that
the
city
voters
will
totally
reject,
but
on
the
other
hand,
I
think
you
should
view
yourselves
as
playing
a
leadership
role
in
a
problem-solving
role.
H
You
are
the
city
commission
enterprise
you're,
going
to
go
where
no
commission
has
gone
before
you're
going
to
invent
some
new
charter
language,
that's
what
we
did
in
1985,
the
hybrid
model
that
san
jose
developed
is
not
one
that
is
done
anywhere
else
and
I
think
it
has
stood
a
lot
of.
It
has
stood
the
test
of
time
and
has
and
demonstrated
that
it's
a
very,
very
valid
approach
to
governance.
Other
advice
that
I
would
give
is
you
want
to
maintain
a
capacity
for
independence.
H
You
definitely
want
to
have
your
own
counsel
to
advise
you
on
on
drafting
when
you're
thinking
about
models
of
governance
always
remember
that
the
structure
of
governance
is
a
tool
not
an
end.
You
want
to
develop
criteria
through
which
you
can
evaluate
different
structures
of
government
and
when
you're
thinking
about
criteria,
you
need
to
pay
attention
to
the
nuances
and
the
details
I
mean
you're.
You
know
the
council
has
told
you
to
care
about
things
like
accountability
and
representation.
H
Fine,
those
are
very
few
structures
of
government
have
those
kinds
of
effects
that
are
universal
accountability,
for
whom
to
whom
a
representation
for
whom
you're
going
to
have
to
think
about
those
questions.
To
what
extent
you're
are
you
going
to
try
and
increase
the
representation
for
people
who
are
powerful
and
organized
or
for
people
who
aren't?
H
I
think
you.
You
also
want
to
take
into
consideration
the
fact
that
there
are
different,
very
different
skill
sets
for
the
different
roles
that
people
play
in
the
politics
and
governance
of
a
city
like
san
jose
and
the
three
main
categories
that
I
would
suggest
thinking
about
are
campaigning
governing
and
managing
they're.
All
different
campaigning
involves
the
ability
to
put
together
messages
be
likable.
H
H
All
of
these
are
different.
They
require
different
kinds
of
abilities
they're.
Once
in
a
in
an
age
you
find
somebody
who
has
all
three.
In
most
cases,
you
don't
find
anybody
who
has
all
three,
so
you
want
to
be
thinking
about
those
as
a
as
you
go
as
you
go
forward,
so
that
would
be
some
suggestions.
I'm
not
gonna
you'll
you'll,
hear
from
me
later
in
this
process
about
specific
recommendations
for
governance
changes,
but
not
now.
N
Fantastic
well,
we
appreciate
your
involvement
to
date
and
and
both
you
and
mr
collins
being
with
us
tonight.
Let's
take
some
questions
and
mr
collins
has
to
leave
in
15
minutes.
So
if
anybody
has
any
specific
questions
for
him,
maybe
we
could
start
there,
but
you
know
would
love
to
just
have
all
your
curio
curious
questions
answered
best.
We
can
right
now.
If
you
could
raise
your
hand,
we'll
start.
E
Hi,
john
and
and
bob
I
love
listening
to
you
guys
talk,
there's
actually
a
lot
of
contacts
there.
That
is
very
helpful,
at
least
for
me,
so
I
wanted
to
post
this
question
here.
Just
to
get
your
opinion
about
this.
One
of
the
justifications
for
expanding
on
the
mayor's
powers
was
that
the
mayor
could
then
respond
to
demands
that
occurred
last
summer.
E
Regarding
the
termination
of
the
police
chief,
the
mayor
then
said
he
didn't
have
that
authority
that
all
fell
within
the
city,
manager's
responsibility-
I
mean
you
both
seem
to
be
very
you
know
you
both
are
advocates
for
the
current
system
that
we
have
in
place
and
not
expanding
the
powers
too
much.
But
do
you
believe
that
a
mayor
should
have
the
power
to
change
department
heads
in
such
a
direct
and
quick.
P
Way,
well
that
that
was
the
the
the
rock
upon
which
some
of
the
the
ships
foundered
in
1985
the
it
was
the
question
of
whether
the
mayor
or
the
mayor
and
the
council
would
have
the
right
to
relieve
department,
heads
of
whom
one
would
have
been
the
police
chief.
But
there's
also,
you
know
with
the
planning
director
and
and
things
of
that
nature.
P
P
Possibly
the
power
to
relieve
them,
possibly
even
some
kind
of
an
every
one
or
two
year
review
process
where,
if
the
department
head
was
not
favorably
reviewed
enough
or
if
it
was
unfavorable,
then
there
would
be
a
process
to
go
through
where
ultimately,
they
could
wind
up
being
relieved
of
their
duties.
So.
P
That
was
out
there
as
a
as
a
a
suggestion
it
initially
we
had
a
couple
of
votes
and
that
initially
passed
and
then
eventually
was
subtracted.
P
P
But
one
of
the
things
you
all
could
be
looking
at
is
whether
you
want
to
make
that
power
more
overt
and
more
direct,
so
that
the
the
the
either
the
mayor
or
the
mayor,
plus
the
majority
of
the
council,
could
fire
a
department
head
by
the
police
chief
and
in
these
days
where
the
police
situation
is.
Is
such
a
crucial
and
difficult
situation?
N
Go
ahead,
mr
ratzing,
please
thank
you.
H
The
remember
when
I
talked
about
those
two
objectives
that
we
were
dealing
with
back
in
1985,
the
relationship
between
the
legislature
and
the
administration,
and
also
the
issue
of
depth
of
representation.
Those
are
two
very
very
related
issues
and
the
challenge
is
to
be
able
to
make
sure
that,
if
you're
making
a
change
in
the
first
one,
it
doesn't
have
negative
effects
in
the
second
one.
H
So
you
want
to
be
careful
that
you
don't
create
an
ability
for
the
mayor
to
be
able
to
fire,
for
example,
fire
a
police
chief
and
do
it
against
the
representation
of
the
public
and
the
city
council.
In
other
words,
eight
members
of
the
council
and
the
public
overwhelmingly
want
to
keep
the
police
chief.
The
mayor
in
the
second
term,
virtually
no
accountability
he's
never
going
to
run
for
mayor
again,
he's
turned
out,
decides
he
wants
to
fire
the
guy.
That's
a
very
non-representative
act
that
you're
allowing
the
mayor
to
do.
H
If
you
create
a
scenario
in
which
the
mayor
and
the
majority
or
majority
of
the
city
council
is
necessary
in
order
to
fire
at
department
head
and
if
you
want
to
be
even
more
careful
in
terms
of
representation,
you
can
create
a
set
of
circumstances
in
which
that
can
be
done.
But
the
circumstances
are
not
the
universe
of
all
circumstances.
H
Like
you
know
in
us,
in
an
emergency.
The
council
and
mayor
can
do
that
in
a
routine
time.
They
can't
so
you
have
to
you
know
you
have
to
create
some
conditions
that
enable
that
power
to
be
exercised.
But
the
general
message
that
I
would
give
is
always
pay
attention
to
the
relationship
between
these
two
factors,
because
if,
if
one
doesn't
it's
very
possible
that
the
the
goal
of
efficiency
and
in
some
nebulous
sense,
accountability
will
be
achieved
at
the
at
a
high
price
in
terms
of
representation.
N
Great,
thank
you,
commissioner
marshman.
I
saw
you
had
your
hand
up.
Did
you
have
a
question?
I
think
we
she
may
not
be
here
so
I'll,
move
on
to.
D
I
was
going
to
ask
what
hung
you
up
the
first
time,
what
what
it
was
that
was
shell
that
you
guys
supported.
So
that
was
my
question.
This
is
all
fascinating.
I
hope
you
continue
monitoring
and
chatting
with
us.
H
Well,
as
I
as
I
recall,
there
was
a
proposal
to
allow
the
mayor
and
city
council
to
fire
a
department
head
and
it
had
majority
support
on
the
council
until
the
very
last
meeting,
at
which
point
somehow
several
people
changed
their
position
and
it
was
defeated.
So
that's
the
way
I
recall
john,
I
don't
know
if
you
remember
it
any
differently.
P
K
O
P
Yeah
interesting
because
there
was-
I
mean
mayor,
mchenry
never
saw
a
power
that
he
didn't
want
to
happen
and
he's
a
great
guy,
but
I
mean
he
thought
that
the
mayor
should
be
the
guy
who
could
really
lead
the
city.
But
my
recollection
is
that
it
was.
It
was
mayor
mchenry
who
basically
was
behind
those
switched
boats.
N
All
right,
thank
you,
so
I
have
on
our
stack
here,
commissioners,
percival,
monley
and
fuentes.
So,
commissioner
percival,
if
you're
still
with
us,.
G
Great,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
john
and
bob
for
your
really
helpful
comments
and
it's
great
it's
great
to
hear
your
suggestions
and
also
sort
of
what
you
what
you
worked
on
a
number
of
years
ago
now
I
just
had
a
question
more
thinking
along
the
lines
of
trust
in
in
local
government.
You
know,
overall,
the
public
has
routinely
showed
declining
levels
of
trust
and
all
forms
of
government
used
to
be.
The
local
government
was
the
most
trusted
level,
but
even
that
is
now
declining.
G
So
I'm
wondering
if
you
back
in
1985,
you
know
thought
about
trust
in
government
and
how
the
institutions
of
the
organization
of
san
jose
city
government
either
helped
contribute
to
that
or
inhibited
it
in
some
way.
It
seems
like
that's,
at
least
in
my
mind
anyway,
central
to
our
work
here.
Is
you
know
how
do
we
build
a
san
jose
city
government
that
contributes
to
a
greater
sense
of
trust
and
responsiveness
to
public
demands?
P
I
think
I
think
that's
a
very
good
question,
and,
and
that
isn't
just
because
you
and
I
both
have
a
big
beard,
but
that
that
helps.
I.
P
I
think
that,
when
you're
dealing
with
trust
in
government,
you've
got
a
couple
of
problems,
and
one
of
them
is
is,
is
gigantic
and
and
very
hard
to
solve
in
one
local
position,
and
that
is
the
the
one
party
or
one
part
of
one
party
has
undertaken
to
undermine
public
trust
in
government
for
the
last
30
40
years,
and
eventually
ronald
reagan
in
particular,
spoke
for
that
and
then
people
have
gone
on
to
speak
for
it
again
and
and
it
it
has
eroded
public
trust
in
in
government
for
no
good
reason
now
there
are.
P
There
are
things
that
have
happened.
Many
things
that
have
happened
that
were
not
good
for
trust
in
government,
otherwise
that
weren't
the
product
of
of
of
this
effort
and-
and
heaven
knows
we
can
you
know
the
you
know
if
you
want
to
have
people
trust
you.
P
One
of
the
things
you
have
to
do
is
be
trustworthy
and
government
isn't
always
trustworthy
and
sometimes
things
seem
to
be
organized
from
the
background
and
often
they
seem
to
be
organized
for
the
benefit
of
a
particular
person
or
persons,
and
sometimes
those
are
rich
people
and
people
with
economic
power
more
often
than
not
so
those
things
all
diminish,
trust
and
and
to
to
develop
a
mechanism
to
to
make
that
better
would
be
terrific.
On
the
other
hand,
you've
got
this.
P
This
giant
national
messaging
machine
with
5
000
non-profits
out
there
doing
research,
basically
trying
to
show
that
that
you
know
the
one
thing
you
don't
want
to
hear
is
I'm
from
the
government
and
I'm
here
to
help
you
that's
one
of
their
jokes
that
they've
written
over
the
years.
P
So
you
know
the
the
trust
issue
was
also
an
issue
when,
when
we
were
working
on
this,
many
people
hoped
at
that
time
that
that
some
part
of
the
the
trust
issue
that
was
the
result
of
of
having
basically
all
many,
mostly
men,
mostly
white
people,
mostly
well-off
people
on
the
council,
was
going
to
change
with
the
change
from
at-large
elections
to
district
elections,
and
although
it
was
not
instant,
that
has
in
fact
changed
to
where
we
we
now
have
a
more
representative
council,
it's
taken
quite
a
while,
and
it's
it's
it's
not
instant,
and
it
doesn't.
P
You
know
at
one
point:
we
were
the
feminist
capital
of
the
world
and
then
for
a
while
there
weren't
so
many
women,
and
now
I
think,
we've
gotten
back
a
little
bit.
We
we've,
you
know
different,
I
mean
council
seats
are
are
like
quantum
bits.
You
know
they're
either
here
or
there.
The
council
generally
can't
be
held
by
a
person
who
is
both
hispanic
and
asian,
who
you
know,
people
fit
into
one
category
or
another,
and
you've
only
got
10
seats.
If
you
had
100
seats,
you
could
have
actual.
P
You
know,
logically,
it
could,
it
could
bust
down
into
you,
know
a
definite
representation,
but,
of
course,
it's
impossible
to
have
a
hundred
seats
and
it's
it
wouldn't
even
be
desirable
to
be
too
too
much.
P
H
It's
an
excellent
question
in
my
mind:
there's
no
question
that
the
level
of
trust
has
declined
even
at
the
local
level,
where
it's
been
maintained
the
most
and
I
don't
know
a
magic
wand
solution
for
it.
But
I
will
give
one
observation
from
having
been
involved
in
local
government
and
local
politics
since
1978,
and
that
is
one
thing
that
people
very
much
want
to
need
from
their
government
is
not
just
outcomes
but
a
sense
that
they
have
been
heard
and
that
they
have
been
represented.
H
That
is
that
their
point
of
view
has
been
articulated
and
that
it
took
me
a
long
time
to
to
learn
that,
because
I
was
very
much
an
outcome
person
and
I
thought
I'm
going
to
work
hard
to
give
people
what
they
really
need
and
then
they're
going
to
be
happy
and
it
didn't.
It
doesn't
happen
necessarily
that
way.
H
They
want
to
know
that
you've
seriously
listened
to
what
they
have
to
say
that
you
have,
even
if
you've
disagreed
with
it,
that
you've
done
very
serious
work
to
try
and
understand
what
they're
saying
and,
if
you're
rejecting
it.
There
are
good
reasons
for
it
and
it's
a
kind
of
respect
that
they
want,
and
if
they
don't
get
it,
then
they
feel
that
the
government
isn't
representing
them
and
a
level
of
of
trust
is
eroded.
N
N
N
Great
fantastic
commission-
I
just
mr
collins-
is
going
to
stick
around
for
what
for
your
question,
commissioner
munley
and
then
he's
going
to
drop
off
sorry
about
that.
J
N
D
I'm
wondering
if
you,
mr
collins
and
mr
brownstein,
if
you
had
during
your
time
on
the
commission
in
1985,
if
you
had
a
time
or
an
opportunity
to
have
scenario,
work,
workouts
or
play
scenario
games,
you
get
a
council,
a
mayor
that
can
deliver
a
strong
coalition
or
the
opposite,
or
I
think
it
might
be
helpful
to
us
in
our
deliberative
process
to
know
how
you
may
have
come
to
your
your
your
recommendations.
P
I
mean
to
some
extent
there
was
a
certain
amount
of
discussion
among
members
of
the
council.
I
mean
of
the
commission
and
that
that
you
know
arguments
if
you
will
that
to
some
extent
took
place
outside
of
the
commission
meetings.
P
I
don't
know
about
how
how
whether
you
guys
are
brown
acted
or
not.
I
don't
remember
that
we
were
it's
a
big
group
and,
and
certainly
no,
but
there
was
no
no
meetings
of
a
majority,
but
there
used
to
be
a
certain
number
of
people
who
would
get
together
afterwards,
and
I
think
those
were
useful
discussions
that
helped
people
to
kind
of
hone
their
arguments
and
and
so
forth.
There
was
nothing
formal
about
that.
Just
you
know,
sort
of
people
who
knew
each
other
and
so
forth.
H
I
don't
remember
us
doing
any
kind
of
formal
scenario,
games
playing
and
stuff
like
that.
I
think
tendencies
towards
doing
it.
That
way
happen
later
in
the
world,
but
but
but
we
did
have
robust
debates
and-
and
they
were
about
these
values,
that
we
were
trying
to
agree
on
and
find
a
way
to
incorporate
into
into
a
charter.
N
All
right,
thank
you.
So
we
have.
Where
did
my
let's
go,
commissioner
fuentes
matsumura
and
then
commissioner,
diet.
B
Okay,
thank
you,
maria
fuentes,
hi
bob
nice
to
see
you
and
also
you
know.
I
don't
know
I
think
john's
probably
gone,
but
thank
you.
This
has
been
extremely
helpful.
B
I
think,
to
I
mean
bob,
as
you
were
talking
about
how
things
were
and
the
issue
that
that
you
were
dealing
with
in
terms
of
the
way
that
you
know
that
gap
between
the
power
of
the
city
manager
versus
the
people,
you
know
all
the
the
representatives
and
that
this
you
know
you
know
your
commission
really
took
on
that-
that
that
really
huge
problem
and
and
were
able
to
to
address
it-
and
I
I
I
am
and
and-
and
it
really
has
made
a
difference-
I
mean
both
the
district
elections
and
then
this
following
having
the
district
election
having
city
council
members
that
really
represented
our
entire
city
and
then
empowering
them
to
really
be
able
to
have
the
say
over
what
what
happens
in
government
is.
B
You
know
just
vital
to
our
to
our
city
and
I'm
just
thinking
you
know,
and
I
think
of
our
charge
that
our
group
has
to
really.
We
have
to
figure
out
how
to
look
at
the
questions
that
were
given
to
us
and
and
what
we
really
need
to
do
in.
B
I
know
you
you
just
mentioned
bob
that
you
know
you.
You
talked
a
lot
about
democracy
and
representation
when
you
know
when
your
commission
worked
and-
and
you
know
we
had
the
issue
that
we
were
just
talking
about-
related
to
trust
and
and
helping
you
know
changing
things
and
then
also
what
you
said
about
you
know:
people
really
want
to
know
that
they're
hurt
and
and
really
really
represented,
you
know
even
more
than
the
outcomes.
B
So
I
guess
my
my
my
question
is
more
along
the
lines
of
what
do
you
think?
What
do
you
think
about
what
we
have
ahead
of
us?
I
mean
we
have.
We
were
given,
as
you
know,
certain
assignments
to
to
certain
questions
to
look
at,
but
I
think
it's.
What
do
you
think
about
give
us
your
your
thoughts
about
what
we're
about
to
do?
H
H
What
do
you
want
to
add
on
I
mean
there
are,
I
mean
to
me
it's
a
perfectly
reasonable
position
for
somebody
to
say
well,
I
might
support
the
city
council
having
the
authority
to
fire
department
heads
if
I
knew
there
were
strong
equity
standards
in
the
charter,
so
that
I
wouldn't
be
allowing
a
department
head
to
be
fired
because
they
were
advocates
for
equity,
but
the
only
way
to
be
able
to
have
that
discussion
is
be
talking
about
both
things
at
the
same
time
and
not
having
the
structural
discussion
and
finish
it
and
then
say:
okay,
you
know
two
months
later,
we'll
talk
about
equity.
H
H
You
can
make
things
you
can
you
know
you
can
do
something:
that's
new
and
innovative
and
positive,
not
that
it'll
be
easy,
but
to
do
that
you've
gotta
be
in
a
structure
that
gives
you
the
framework
to
be
a
little
free-floating
and
bringing
in
ideas
when
they,
when
they
can
help
and
not
be
forced
to
do
it
later
because
of
the
agenda.
So
I
mean
that
and
I
mean-
and
you
obviously
want
to
get
a
lot
of
input.
H
You
know
we
didn't
do
that
much
in
terms
of
outreach
and
input
in
the
prior
commission.
For
one
thing,
it
was
another
world
in
terms
of
modes
of
communication.
You
know
we
didn't
have
all
the
it
stuff
and
the
social
media
stuff
and
all
these
things
that
you
can
use.
So
it
was
a
little
different.
You
have
the
capability,
and
there
was
is
more
of
a
civic
infrastructure
now
than
there
was
then
so.
H
B
N
So
we're
gonna
do
last
two
questions,
since
we
have
just
two
more
hands
up
and
then
we're
going
to
get
back
to
the
rest
of
our
agenda
for
the
evening,
commissioner,.
J
It's
the
dangers
of
double
mute.
Thank
you,
commissioner
fuentes,
because
that
was
sort
of
a
perfect
setup
and
I'm
I'm
sorry,
I'm
gonna
kind
of
push
you
a
little
farther
down.
This
path
of
you
know:
you've
you've,
given
us
the
charge
to
be
bold
in
really
carrying
on
the
work,
the
tradition
of
the
district-based
elections,
movement
and
the
work
that
the
1985
commission
did,
and
you
know
both
you
and
mr
collins
talked
about
how
much
farther
we
need
to
go
in
terms
of
real
equity
and
representation.
J
Obviously
we
have
some
some
failures
of
that
in
our
city,
and
so
I'm
I'm
wondering
what
else
you
could
share
with
us.
You
know
you
talked
about
the
importance
of
making
sure
that
we
are
able
to
bring
up
ideas
when
they
help,
rather
than
saying
you
know
we're
going
to
deal
with
this
now
and
that
later
I
think
earlier
you
mentioned
outside
counsel.
You've
talked
about
criteria.
J
You
know,
I
think
it's
a
really
difficult
task
to
say:
we've
got
this
set
of
problems
in
the
city,
you
know
be
it
be
it
police,
be
it
housing
and
homelessness,
be
you
know
covet
in
the
number
of
equity
issues.
How
do
we
translate
that
to
the
charter?
It's
like
a
very,
very
obscure
political
and
policy.
You
know
poly
science
policy
question.
J
So
if
there's
anything
else,
you
can
advise
us
in
terms
of
our
process
so
that
we
don't
miss
that
opportunity
to
be
very
aggressive
and
understanding
how
the
charter
is
a
tool
for
us,
not
just
in
the
forms
of
governance.
Sense
right.
We
don't
want
to
leave
anything
on
the
table
if
there's
other
ways
that
we
need
to
be
taking
on
the
charge
to
increase
accountability,
representation
and
inclusion.
H
Well,
I
mean
at
this
point:
I
can't
solve
a
problem
for
you.
I
think
it's
one
that
we
will
should
all
be
working
on
during
the
next
several
months.
It
is
a
it
is
a
tough
challenge
and
I
don't
think
it's
one.
That's
particularly
well
addressed
in
other
charters.
You
know
that's
why
it's
the
commission
enterprise
we're
going
one
step
beyond
right,
but
I'm
just
two
thoughts.
One
is,
and
this
is
would
have
to
be
approached
carefully.
You
can
think
in
the
charter
about
actual
equity
criteria
in
terms
of
outcomes.
H
You
know
in
terms
of
does
every
city
council
district
get
its
share
of
park
lands,
does
every
city
council
district,
get
its
share
of
library,
resources,
etc,
and
then
another
way
to
look
at
it
in
terms
of
moving
towards
equity
and
would
probably
be
easier
is
in
terms
of
process
you
can
put
in
the
charter
sort
of
some
check,
checks
and
balances
to
make
sure
that
equity
isn't
disregarded.
H
You
know
you
can
require
that
the
city
council
have
a
special
committee
on
on
fairness
and
equity,
and
that
k
you
know
certain
kinds
of
policy
proposals
have
to
be
rooted
in
addition
to
the
normal
committee,
through
that
special
committee
to
get
a
review
to
make
sure
that
the
council
knows
and
the
public
knows
what
the
equity
you
know.
Outcomes
are
there's
precedent
for
that
in
other
kinds
of
areas
wouldn't
when
we
developed
city
council
policies.
H
This
wasn't
through
the
charter,
which,
through
other
mechanisms
regarding
public
subsidies,
what
we
did
was
have
language
that
required
when
the
city
council
wants
to
do
a
major
public
subsidy,
there's
certain
kinds
of
information
that
has
to
be
provided
to
the
public.
You
can't
just
say
it's
a
good
idea:
here's
10
million
dollars
you've
got
to
be
able
to
jump
through
certain
hoops.
You
can
do
the
same
kinds
of
things.
If
you're
thinking
about
trying
to
achieve
equity
outcomes,
focusing
on
process
as
as
opposed
to
outcomes
process
isn't
isn't
a
guarantee.
G
Thanks,
I
I
want
to
thank
mr
brownstein.
I
appreciate
your
insight
earlier
on
what
the
public
needs
and
and
what
they
want
and
government's.
You
know
ability
to
be
responsive
to
that.
I
have
a
two-part
question
for
you,
one
if
I
unders.
If
I
recall
correctly-
and
I
could
be
wrong
in
this-
I
think,
in
addition
to
being
a
commissioner
member,
you
briefly
served
under
a
mayor
in
the
city
as
a
policy
advisor.
So
you
have
some
experience.
Working
under
a
mayor
is
that,
right
today,.
G
H
G
And
secondly,
in
regards
to
your
comment
about
government
responsiveness
to
to
public
demands
or
wants,
I
feel
I
feel,
there's
a
friction
and
you
may
disagree,
but
I'm
gonna
add
that
to
the
premise
anyway,
I
feel
there's
a
friction
in
the
way
our
city
is
right
now,
because
you
have
districts,
council,
members
by
district
and
of
course,
the
council
members
are
representative
of
their
districts
of
their
electorate.
G
And
then
you
have
a
mayor
who
was
represented
of
the
city-wide
electorate,
but
I
I
don't
think
the
mayor
has
any
authority
to
do
a
lot
of
things
that
let's
call
them
executive
orders
and
it
falls
to
the
city
manager.
For
instance,
the
city
manager
called
the
curfew
we
had
last
year.
It
wasn't
a
council
decision
or
a
mayor
decision.
It
was
a
city
manager
decision.
So
how
do
we?
G
Where?
Where
is
the
outlet
for
responsiveness
to
the
city-wide
electorate
when,
in
my
opinion
at
least
there's
there's
no
direct
outlet,
because
you
have
a
mayor
who
needs
to
go
and
find
what
five
other
votes
to
to
bring
about
some
sort
of
change?
And
then
once
you
bring
about
the
policy
change,
there's
the
bureaucracy,
because
you
can
pass
as
many.
G
You
know,
policies
as
you
want,
but
you
need
staff
to
work
on
it
and
you
need
to
prod
them
or
somehow
there's
some
sort
of
accountability
that
I
feel
is
missing
in
our
system,
where
the
bureaucracy
department
heads
can
because
of
their
large
workload,
you
know
put
something
that's
been
approved
on
a
back
burner,
let's
say
and
not
really
get
much
done
on
it.
So
how
would
you
address
that.
H
Well,
you
had
a
number
of
questions
in
there.
I
apologize
I'll,
try
and
and
deal
with
some
of
them,
at
least
in
terms
of
my
background
working
for
susan
hammer,
I
mean
the
first
point
I
want
to
make.
Is
a
structure
can
give
you
the
capacity
to
lead,
but
you
still
have
to
lead.
H
Okay,
in
other
words,
mayor
hammer,
got
things
done
through
that
structure
that
somebody
else
conceivably
would
not
have
gotten
done,
because
you
have
to
use
that
your
your
skills
and
your
energy
and
your
ability
to
build
coalitions
and
mobilize
people
in
order
to
lead,
and
if
you
exercise
that
political
leadership,
under
my
view,
is
under
the
current
structure,
we
have
a
mayor,
can
get
an
enormous
amount
done.
I
mean
susan
hammer
passed,
legislatively
a
curfew
in
san
jose.
I
mean
I
was
the
architect
of
it.
H
So
I
mean
you,
don't
have
to
wait
for
city
manager.
You
can
develop
a
curfew
through
ordinance,
but
you
have
to
lead
and
many
of
the
complaints
that
I've
heard
about
as
this
debate's
been
going
on
regarding
changing
the
government
structure
where
somebody's
saying
well,
I
couldn't
do
this
and
I
couldn't
do
that.
I
hear
those
and
I
think
that's
not
a
structural
problem.
That's
a
leadership
problem.
How
could
somebody
with
a
stable
governing
coalition
not
manage
to
make
that
happen?
H
H
H
Then
it's
fortunately
we
don't
have
it
now
is
that
it
was
the
conflict
between
the
redevelopment
agency
and
the
city,
two
bureaucracies
that
hated
each
other-
and
you
know,
was
somewhat
the
only
time
that
I
remember
susan
hammer
actually
using
off-color
language
was
in
meetings
between
the
redevelopment
agency
and
the
city.
Where
she
was
saying
you
know,
you're,
you
mean
you're
making
me
deal
with
this
bleep
bleep
plea
so,
but
I
mean
those
days
are
gone.
You
don't
have
that
institution.
H
The
city
managers
during
her
terms,
sort
of
the
transition
of
a
weaker
and
weaker
city
manager
was
happening
now
now,
in
my
mind,
a
mayor
with
leadership
skills
with
a
stable
governing
coalition
or
to
be
able
to
get
the
administration
to
to
implement
any
major
initiative
that
that
they
want
to
have
take
place
and
if
you're,
in
a
situation
where
there's
a
genuine
emergency,
that
is
you
don't
just
need
it
done,
you
need
it
done
now,
then.
H
H
You
know
give
the
mayor
more
power
to
deal
with
that
during
the
period
of
the
emergency
doesn't
mean
you
give
the
mayor
power
over
the
planning
department
doesn't
mean
you
give
the
mayor
power
over
libraries.
It
means
you
give
the
mayor
a
very
narrow
set
of
expanded
power
to
deal
with
the
kind
of
urgent
issue
that
somebody
can
say.
H
Time
doesn't
allow
the
normal
exercise
of
leadership
to
be
able
to
get
the
job
done,
and
then
the
last
point
I'd
make
is
something
an
element
of
frustration,
and
this
is
from
somebody
who's
been
a
community
organizer
and
worked
with
community
groups.
My
whole
life
is
part
of
the
responsibility
of
people
in
leadership
is
to
make
sure
that
other
people
know
what
the
world
of
the
possible
is.
H
So
it
was
frustrating
to
I've
been
a
major
advocate
for
affordable
housing
forever.
Okay,
it
was
frustrating
to
me
to
have
people
come
forward
and
say:
here's
our
affordable
housing
proposal.
We
want
the
redevelopment
agency
to
spend
50
percent
of
all
the
tax
or
increment
that
it
receives
on
affordable
housing.
Now
the
problem
with
that
is
the
redevelopment
agency
bonded
every
dollar
that
came
in
the
door.
So
if
you
told
them
spend
50
of
your
tax
revenues
on
affordable
housing,
you're
telling
them
to
default
on
a
giant
number
of
bonds.
H
That
idea
is
dead
on
arrival,
so
you
need
to
be
able
to
communicate
with
people
so
that
they
can
push
you,
but
they
can
push
you
towards
things
that
are
doable
and
not
things
that
are
impossible,
and
so
that's
another.
I
don't
know
how
the
charter
fixes
that,
but
that's
another
burden
of
leadership
that
I
think
is
important.
That's
why
you
risk
that
when
you
ask
an
old-timer
like
me
to
reminisce.
N
Well,
thank
you.
That's
a
great
way
to
wrap
up
our
conversation,
really
fascinating
and,
I
think
helpful
insights.
So
mr
brownstein,
thank
you
again
and
I
hope
you
continue
to
to
join
us
and
share
insights.
You
know
via
public
comments
and
maybe
other
ways,
chair
I'll
turn
it
back
to
you.
A
Thanks
so
much
bob
for
being
with
us
tonight
and
thanks
to
all
the
commissioners
for
your
thoughtful
questions,
really
helpful
to
this
procedure
and
process
so,
and
tonight
is
the
one
year
anniversary
of
the
passing
of
mayor
hammer
so
on
international
women's
day,
that's
a
really
she's
a
she's,
probably
one
of
my
favorite
people
that
I
would
say
we
honor
tonight
as
well,
and
her
spirit
certainly
lives
on
in
this
kind
of
work
that
we're
doing.
A
A
A
Discussion
earlier,
okay,
we're
going
to
come
back
to
that
public
comment
in
a
second,
but
this
is
just
about.
This
is
just
public
comment
on
the
study
session
itself
and
then
we'll
come
back
to
you.
Matt
king.
Q
I
also
had
a
a
comment
on
the
work
plan
that
we-
and
so
I
guess
I'll
speak
on
that
later.
When
is
that.
A
C
O
Yes,
great
hi.
Thank
you,
blair,
beekman
here.
Thank
you
for
this
item.
It
was
nice
to
hear
the
words
of
of
mr
brownstein
speak
about.
You
know.
I
I
really
wholeheartedly
back
where
he's
coming
from,
and
you
know
he
tried
to
give
yourselves
options
how
to
address
how
you're
gonna
want
to
address
this
issue,
and
you
know
from
where
I
come
from
I'm
coming
from
the
ideas
there
there's
a
future
of
of
accountability,
that's
possible
with
the
future
of
technology
and
it's
it's
a
process.
O
It's
a
shared
process
between
community
and
its
government.
It's
not
simply
government
dictating
what
technology
goes
into
a
community
anymore.
It
is
a
process
of
sharing
and
openness
and
policy
making
together
between
community
and
its
government.
Exactly
what
mr
bernstein
said.
You
know
brownstone
said
that
if
you
you
know,
if
you
simply
acknowledge
and
talk
to
the
everyday
public,
then
you'll
get
interesting
results
and-
and
you
know
a
certain
good
relationship-
and
you
know
the
work,
I'm
a
part
of
it.
O
It
really
embodies
the
idea
of
inviting
the
public
to
the
process
and
there's
a
whole
new
development
happening
of
not
just
government
by
representation
anymore
and
as
a
republic,
but
real
questions
of
how
the
public
can
be
a
part
of
the
accountable
process
and
a
part
of
the
community
process.
That's
an
incredibly
exciting
notion
to
conclude
really
quickly.
If
I
can,
you
know
the
community
to
invite
the
community
you
know
to
the
council
process
is
really
important
and
I
hope
you
can
work
on
that.
Thank
you.
D
5140
yeah,
I
have
a
hard
time
wanting
to
go
back
to
the
days
of
susan
hammer.
You
know
her
curfew
really
never
worked.
She
was
a.
I
think
she
was
a
terrible
mayor.
D
You
know,
and
christmas
in
the
park
was
completely
ruined
and
it
cost
the
merchants
and
people
didn't
want
to
go
down
to
the
downtown
to
view
it
because
the
the
manger
was
missing.
It
had
been
there
for
a
long
time.
The
lima
family
mortuary
put
up
a
lot
of
money
over
the
course
of
the
years
to
maintain
that
and
to
build
chris's
apartment.
She
totally
ruined
it.
So
I
wouldn't
want
somebody
like
her
back
in
power,
and
I
think
bob
is
is
dating
himself.
I
you
know
she
she
was.
D
She
was
terrible
and
you
know
she
also
made
sure
that
the
city
spent
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
keys
and
codel,
which
is
the
ugliest
piece
of
public
art
I've
ever
seen
in
my
entire
life.
The
only
funny
thing
is
watching
the
kids
climb.
On
top
of
it
and
hey
mom,
I'm
standing
on
a
pile
of
well,
you
know
what
and
it's
you
know,
that's
the
only
redeeming
value
of
that
public
art.
It's
all
broken
now,
and
everything
what
a
waste
of
money.
D
That's
when
the
city
who
had
a
lot
of
problems
and
she
spent
600
000
authorize
it
for
that,
like
we
need
a
stronger
mayor
for
this.
I
I
really
don't
think
so.
Sam's
got
enough
power
as
it
is
already,
and
even
though
it
doesn't
really
show
since
the
his
people
from.
Q
Q
I
successfully
got
off
of
all
my
prescription
drugs
by
successfully
using
medical,
cannabis,
medical
marijuana,
and
you
have
to
get
a
doctor's
recommendation
in
order
to
use
it
and
then
you
get
a
county
card
and
then
you're
able
to
use
it.
However,
we're
paying
35
tax
on
our
cannabis.
This
is
a
issue.
I've
been
working
on
for
five
years
and
I
have
to
disagree
with
bob
a
little
bit
here
that
the
city
manager
is
having
decreasing
amounts
of
power
because
he
does
not
like
issues
related
to
cannabis.
Q
I
cannot
get
my
issue
passed
by
city
council.
I
have
met
with
every
council
member.
I
have
four
or
five
council
members
in
my
pocket
that
are
for
this.
That
are
writing
memos
for
this,
but
because
the
city
manager
doesn't
like
cannabis
issues,
I
cannot
make
any
headway.
I
am
64..
I
would
like
to
be
able
to
buy
my
medicine
at
a
dispensary
without
paying
35
percent
tax
on
it.
I
am
trying
to
get
the
city
council
members
to
waive
the
san
jose
10
business
tax,
that's
being
applied
to
patients.
Q
These
are
prescriptions
for
patients
with
chronically
ill
diseases
and
we're
paying
35
percent
tax
and
again
the
city
manager
is
blocking
my
issue
because
he
doesn't
like
cannabis.
So
I
have
to
say
I
would
vote
for
the
mayor.
However,
if
the
mayor
doesn't
like
cannabis
issues,
I
might
be
in
the
same
place
so
either
one
has
too
much
power.
I
would
like
to
see
less
power
to
whoever
wins.
A
A
I
think
we
answered
the
questions
that
folks
had
and
I'm
willing
ready
to
have
the
public
comments
on
the
work
plan
and
then
we'll
take
up
possible
actions.
The
adoption
and
possible
actions.
So
tony.
We
at
this
time
can
ask
the
public
for
comments
specifically
about
the
work
plan.
A
The
proposed
work
plan
draft
that
we
received
tonight
that
our
consultant
reviewed
so
members
of
the
public
that
want
to
address
the
issues
of
the
work
plan.
This
is
your
time.
D
D
Getting
out
to
community
and
ensuring
that
community
members
of
all
kinds
understand
what
this
commission
is
and
why
it
matters
and
what
you're
doing
and
why
they
should
be
engaged
with
it,
the
thought
of
not
having
any
budget
for
anything
other
than
paying
a
consultant
to
help.
You
run
your
meetings
and
do
process
stuff.
Just
doesn't
make
sense
to
me.
If
there's
money
for
the
consultant,
it
seems
like
there
could
be
money
for
interpretation
and
community
engagement
and
whatever
else
this
commission
needs
to
do
a
really
great
job.
D
D
Oh,
I
failed
to
mention
I'm
here
representing
sacred
heart
community
service,
so
you
had
my
boss,
poncho
here
with
you
and
camille
from
somos,
and
they
gave
you
a
lot
to
think
about
on
what
should
be
happening
with
outreach.
And
I
don't
I
don't
see
that
reflected
in
what
was
proposed
tonight,
except
more
discussion
about
the
things
that
are
too
hard
to
do
or
that
the
city
can't
afford.
D
So
I
just
really
want
to
push,
and
I
want
to
offer
support
from
the
suggestion
I
heard
from
commissioner
calendar
about
bringing
community
in
and
listening
to
them
up
front
about
what
they
want.
Thanks.
Q
Hi,
thank
you.
So
the
1965
charter
review
commission
was
I'm
sorry.
The
1965
charter
was
penned
during
the
civil
rights
movement
by
15,
private
local
landowners,
and
I
think
that
it's
important
that
we
are
aware
of
such
history,
so
that
we
can
continue
to
build
off
of
the
1985
commission
by
being
mindful
and
intentional,
that
we're
dismantling
systems
of
oppression
and
rebuilding
with
equity
and
inclusion
in
mind.
Q
We
are
living
in
unprecedented
historical
moment
that
is
opening
a
possibility
for
historic
change,
and
I
see
this
commission
as
the
champions
of
this
moment,
and
I
would
like
to
propose
two
additional
measures
for
study
to
be
added
on
the
work
plan.
One.
It
is
obvious
that
from
the
discussions
we've
had
thus
far
that
the
recurring
theme
of
concern
is
civic
participation
and
community
engagement,
and
it
needs
a
redesign,
a
section
that
does
not
exist
in
the
city
charter
right
now.
Q
I
would
like
to
build
off
what
blair
beekman
shared
that
we
can
use
this
opportunity
to
address
this,
and
I
would
also
like
to
point
to
the
city
of
detroit
who
started
their
charter
review
commission
last
summer
and
they
unveiled
detroiter
bills
of
rights.
You
know
what
would
a
san
jose
civic
community
engagement
bill
of
rights?
Look
like
another
section
that
doesn't
exist
is
one
on
climate
strategy.
We
don't
even
have
a
commission
on
that,
and
there
should
be
both.
Last
year
we
had
a
fire
season
like
never
before
followed
by
rolling
blackouts.
Q
We
saw
what
happened
in
texas
a
few
weeks
ago,
and
so
I
think,
solidifying
and
really
focusing
on
these
two
items
would
be
really
great
and
also
to
add
to
matt
king's
comment.
You
can't
say
in
your
commissioner
agreements
that
you
value
meaningful
community
engagement
and
then
not
prioritize
budget
for
it.
It's
a
contradiction,
and
I
think
that
it
needs
to
be
addressed
and
we
should
really
focus
on
what
meaningful
community
engagement
looks
like
and
what
outreach
looks
like.
Thank
you.
D
Good
evening
my
name
is
adrian
gonzalez
and
I'm
chair
of
the
city's
board
of
fair
campaign
and
political
practices,
otherwise
known
as
the
city's
ethics
commission.
I'm
here
today
to
extend
novel
branch
and
hopefully
open
a
regular
line
of
communication,
because
our
current
goals
are
intertwined
in
the
mayor's
original
ballot
measure
from
last
summer.
Not
only
was
the
city
council
proposing
to
amend
the
city's
governing
structure,
but
they
proposed
changes
to
our
campaign,
finance
and
ethics
laws.
D
In
addition,
council
members
proposed
further
reform
in
november,
which
the
rules
committee
decided
to
take
up
for
consideration
and
refer
to
our
board.
The
city
council
also
clarifies
that
november
rules
committee
meeting
that
the
charter
review
commission
is
allowed
to
consider
what
campaign
finance
reforms
may
be
integrated
into
this
ongoing
charter
amendment
study.
However,
I've
noticed
that
the
current
work
plan
of
the
commission
is
currently
lacking
specific
language
in
prioritizing
camping
finance
or
ethics
reforms.
D
So,
as
the
commission
moves
forward
in
its
work,
I
invite
you
all
to
reach
out
to
myself
and
the
ethics
commission
to
establish
a
regular
line
of
communications
that
we
can
optimize
this
opportunity
to
incorporate
these
vital
and
important
campaign
finance
issues
into
this
impending
charter
amendment.
Thank
you.
O
Hi,
thank
you,
claire
beekman.
Sorry,
if
I
sounded
a
bit
over
zealous,
I'm
sitting
outside
right
now.
Sorry
about
that.
I'm
sorry
if
I
sounded
a
bit
overzealous.
My
first
item-
maybe
I
I
just
can't
stress
enough
that
you
know
mr
mr
brownstein
brought
in
a
real
nice
balance
of
what
you're
going
to
have
to
consider,
but
I
I
tried
to
bring
in
that.
You
know
there
is
and
what
was
mentioned
earlier
tonight
that
a
reason
to
public
comment
that
you
know
there
is
an
important
feature.
O
You
know
of
equity
of
reimagine,
and
you
know
the
accountability
with
technology
ideas
that
you
know,
there's
a
just
an
incredible
future
of
of
the
term.
Is
you
know
the
future
of
democracy
is
as
a
socialization
process.
You
know
and
that
that's
an
important
concept.
I
mean
we.
We
have
to
continuously
consider
how
democracy
is
a
process
of
socialization
and
it
becomes
a
more
open
process
through
the
decades
and
those
are
important
issues
coming
up
in
our
next
10
years.
O
That
has
to
be
explored
as
you're
balancing
your
other
questions,
and
I
I
think
it's
the
community
effort
as
a
part
of
your
work
plan
that
should
be
considered
first
and
foremost
and
with
you
know,
other
strong
initiatives
thrown
in
possibly,
and
if
I
I
don't
know
how
much
time
I
have
left,
I
don't
have
my
timer,
but
thank
you
for
your
time
tonight
and
you're
talking
about
history
and
that's
really
important.
Thank
you.
So
good
luck
in
your
upcoming
work.
Thank
you.
I
Hi
jeffrey
cannon
on
behalf
of
working
partnerships,
usa,
I
just
wanted
to
voice
my
support
for
the
the
proposal
from
commissioner
calendar
and
commissioner
matsumura.
I
I
think
this
this
particular
commission
certainly
appreciated
all
the
work
commissioners
have
done
so
far,
but
I'm
sure,
as
each
of
you
have
begun
to
look
through
the
charter
and
to
engage
in
this
work,
you
can
see
you
know
what
the
kind
of
challenges
members
of
our
community
would
face
in
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
meaningfully
engage
in
this
process,
and
so
I
I
really
feel
like,
because
this
is
a
a
challenging
process
to
get
into
trying
to
find
ways.
I
You
know
much
like
was
was
suggested
in
the
the
conversation
with
our
colleagues
from
sacred
heart
and
our
colleagues
from
somos
mayfair
about
what
real,
authentic
engagement
looks
like
with
community
leaders
who
who
are
working
on
this
kind
of
civic
engagement
on
a
regular
basis,
and
I
think
to
do
that
effectively,
which
we've
seen
policy.
Making
efforts
within
the
city
of
san
jose
use
those
kinds
of
partnerships
effectively
to
get
more
detailed
engagement.
I
think
a
really
great
example
of
that.
I
The
city's
work
around
its
anti-displacement
strategy
recently,
where
there
was
a
real
strong
investment
in
those
community
partnerships
and
really
getting
getting
into
creating
the
space
of
engaging
folks
that
are
directly
impacted,
but
doing
so
through
both
providing
education
and
opportunity
for
input.
I
think
this
is
a.
I
This
is
a
perfect
example
of
where
that
kind
of
deeper
engagement
could
really
be
a
benefit
to
a
process
where
we
know
at
the
end
of
all
this,
there's
going
to
be
a
tremendous
amount
of
community
interest
in
what
this
commission
comes
up
with
last
summer,
we
saw
hundreds
of
people
calling
in
to
city
council
meetings
to
discuss.
You
know
what
was
that
that
failed,
strong
mayor
proposal,
and
so
I
think,
at
the
end
of
this
process,
people
are
going
to
be
paying
a
lot
of
attention.
D
I
Okay,
just
briefly,
I
wanted
to
call
attention
to
the
comment
earlier.
That's
really
anti-semitic,
insinuations.
A
Thank
you
and
thanks
members
of
the
public
for
their
engagement
and
their
comments.
We
appreciate
them
all.
I'm
going
to
come
back
to
the
commission
now
and
I'm
going
to
ask
for
a
motion,
because
then
we
can
have
a
discussion,
and
so
is
there
someone
who
would
like
to
put
a
motion
on
the
table
around
the
adoption
of
the
work
plan
with
fill
in
the
blank.
N
With
his
hand
raised
commissioner.
F
Calendar
yeah
I'm
actually
looking
at
two
different
motions,
because
after
listening
to
our
speakers,
I
think
there's
two
separate
issues,
but
one
issue
I
think
is
very
clear
is
that
we
need
funding
for
outside
counsel,
as
was
mentioned
multiple
times
by
mr
brownstein.
I
I
do
believe.
After
listening
to
him,
I
think
we
could
definitely
deal
with
additional
researchers
for
analysis
and
qualitative
analysis
and
including
understanding
what
the
impact
may
be.
A
Okay,
I'm
gonna
take
vice
versa,
johnson
seconds,
and
so
so
a
few
of
you
are
excited
about
it.
We'll
we'll
now
move
into
discussion.
E
E
You
know
the
decisions
and
that
we
make
and
that
we
recommend
to
the
council
will
impact
our
communities
for
decades
to
come
and
we
really
don't
want
to
drop
the
ball
when
it
comes
to
making
sure
that
all
voices
are
heard
and
that
we're
bringing
everyone
to
the
table
when
soliciting
their
feedback
for
this
process.
E
I
am
a
big
fan
of
especially
with
the
last
part
of
commissioner
calendar's
motion
to
include
the
ten
grassroots
organizations.
I
was
wanted
to
propose
something
similar.
E
I
know
the
sag,
the
stationary
advisory
group
and
the
city's
mobility
plan
task
force
had
grants
from
the
city
into
community-based
organizations
to
do
outreach,
and
you
know
I
think
you
know,
like
we've
heard
from
some
members
of
the
the
the
public-
and
you
know
some
of
the
big
issues
anti-displacement
and
other
important
housing
issues
where
you
know,
community
input
was
critical,
so
I
am
very
enthusiastic.
E
J
Thank
you
at
this
point.
I
I
just
have
a
question
I
am
supportive
of
the
motion
is
framed
but
wanted
to
clarify.
I
think
there's
been
a
number
of
dimensions
of
the
work
plan
that
that
in
our
earlier
discussion,
we've
raised
and-
and
that
were
I
think
implicated
by
what
mr
collins
and
mr
brownstein
shared,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
I'm
supportive
of
the
motion
to
to
request
this
funding.
I
think
there's
and
commissioner
calendar
has
mentioned
a
couple
of
motions.
J
Potentially
so
so
are
we
voting
just
on
that
or
does
that
include
adoption
of
the
work
plan,
because
I
think
there's
more
to
discuss
on
the
work
plan.
A
It
would
include
the
adoption
of
the
work
plan
with
this
addendum
if
there's
any
friendly
amendments
that
folks
want
to
make
to
the
addition
of
commissioner
calendars
I'll
recognize
that,
but
at
this
point
we're
discussing
the
work
plan
and
the
proposal,
the
budget
proposal
to
come
back
to
you
on
those
items
that
were
elicited
if
there's
other
tweaks
to
the
work
plan.
In
terms
of
once,
we
get
a
budget
proposal.
A
Obviously,
if
we
get
funding
that
would
enhance
the
work
plan
tremendously,
so
we
would
be
doing
that
again
as
another
place
of
the
additional
work
that
could
be
happening.
That
would
be
the
addition
to
the
work
plan
so
kind
of
as
the
structure
it
is
now
plus
this
additional
movement
will
move
us
forward.
E
J
With
that
answer
to
the
question
I
I
I'd
like
to
hear
from
from
my
colleagues,
but
but
I
think
potentially
we
should
be
constructing
a
friendly
amendment
so
that
we
can
encompass
the
totality
of,
as
you
said,
any
tweaks.
We
want
to
make
to
the
work
plan.
M
Yes,
this
is,
and
I
also
would
like
to
add
something
to
it,
which
is
the
racial
equity
toolkit,
and
this
is
done
by
the
government
alliance
on
race
and
equity.
I
think
they
already
have
something
that
can't
support
us
in
our
civic
engagement
and
when
we're
actually
looking
at
the
equity
form
of
engaging
of
civic
engagement
and
how
different
tactics
or
whatever
we
move
forward,
will
impact
our
communities
and
not
just
our
communities
but
as
well
as
city
employees.
M
So
I
definitely
want
to
if
that
needs
to
be
an
amendment
as
well
to
look
at
or
even
to
partner
with,
because
I
know
that
we
have
a
racial
equity
that
was
formed
last
year,
and
how
can
we
partner
with
them
as
well
to
be
here
with
us?
Thank
you.
A
And
commissioner
amador
I'm
happy
to
reach
out
to
the
office
to
make
sure
that
we
incorporate
their
work
and
kind
of
reach
out
to
them
as
part
of
the
work
plan.
We
definitely
can,
and
after
we've
heard
tonight,
I'm
happy
to
do
that
and
I'll
take
that
as
a
friendly
direction
from
the
commission.
We
don't
necessarily
have
to
have
it
in
the
in
the
boat
itself,
because
I
do
think
that
kind
of
any
additional
speakers
any
additional
kind
of
resources.
A
F
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
chairman.
After
I
heard
this
was
an
all-encompassing
motion.
That's
why
I
said
I
wanted
to
break
it
down
in
two,
but
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
move
to
amend
my
motion
to
include
that
we
on
the
march
22nd
meeting,
we
open
it
up
to
the
community
to
hear
from
the
community
on
what
things
they
like
to
change.
F
I
think
hearing
from
mr
brownstein
and
mr
collins
tonight
shows
us
that
just
the
the
four
things
that
are
there,
there's
many
more
things
that
we
should
be
listening
to,
and
we
should
understand
all
those
things
up
front
so
that
we
can
plan
ahead
versus
jamming
ourselves
in
the
end,
as
I
talked
about
earlier
so
I'd
like
to
amend
my
emotion
to
include
that
and
then
hopefully,
if
there's
other
thoughts
that
folks
have,
they
can
amend
the
motion
further.
F
Q
Q
A
Thank
you.
So,
therefore,
the
motion
will
now
be
that
that's
the
adoption
of
the
work
plan
with
the
additional
funding
requests
coming
back
to
you
next
week
and
the
addition
that
the
march
22nd
meeting
be
redesigned
to
include
public
comment
in
a
more
formal
way
in
terms
of
making
sure
that
public
has
outreach
at
the
march
22nd
piece
which
to
move
it
up
from
a
later
kind
of
notion
in
terms
of
the
items
that
need
to
be
included.
A
D
B
Okay,
I'm
sorry
maria
fuentes,
let's
see
I'm
having
problem
with
the
with
the
idea
of
adopting
the
work
plan
right
now,
and
the
reason
is,
I
think
we
heard
some
very
important
insightful
presentations
today,
as
well
as
the
types
of
questions
that
came
out
in
our
discussion
that
I
I
really
would
like
to
have
a
session
similar
to
what
we
had
in
the
very
beginning,
chair
chairman
ferrer,
where
we
really
took
time
to
listen
to
each
of
us
to
kind
of
debrief
and
express
really.
B
What
are
we
thinking
right
now
and
I
I
I
would
not
be
I
mean
I.
I
support
the
intention
and
a
lot
of
the
things,
especially
the
the
three
items
that
that
brick
has
put
on
on
this
motion,
but
I
I
would
have
a
hard
time
voting
yes
on
this
work
plan,
because
I
feel
that
it
really
is
not
capturing
enough
of
the
essence
of
the
work
that
we
know
already
today
see
we
already.
I
mean,
I
think,
maybe
I'll
just
speak
for
myself.
I
think
already.
B
I
know
that
we
need
to
look
deeper
into
into
what
we're
going
to
be
doing
beyond
what
what's
in
in
black
and
white
given
to
us
in
in
as
far
as
our
responsibilities,
and
my
fear
is
that
we
adopt
a
work
plan
that
hasn't
been
fully
well
put
it
this
way
fully
vetted
with
ourselves
to
see.
B
Are
we
really
thinking
that
what
we
have
right
now
is
our
true
charge
and
is
our
true
work
plan,
or
are
we
already
expanding
it,
and
I
would
love
to
be
able
to
hear
from
everyone
on
on
that
question?
You
know.
B
Where
are
we
today
right
now
and
I
know
tonight:
maybe
it's
not
the
good
time,
then
I
would
support
a
motion
that
that
says
we're
going
to
do
this
tonight,
but
next
month
I
mean
next
next
time
we
meet
we're,
really
going
to
do
ron
robin
and
discuss
the
the
list
of
items
we
have
here
and
do
we
want
to
change
that
because,
for
instance,
I
just
want
to
say
on
the
question
of
equity,
on
the
question
of
how
our
community
feels
and
what
they
need
from
government
right
now.
B
A
Thank
you,
commissioner
point
this,
and
I
just
want
to
take
a
the
chairs
pleasure
here
to
be
able
to
describe.
I
think
what
we're
going
to
need
is
if
we
have
additional
resources,
I'd
like
to
have
the
discussion
in
the
round
robin
after
we
know
about
these
additional
resources,
because
we
can
continue
to
have
this
conversation
about
what
we'd
like
to
do,
but
if
we
have
the
current
resource
resources
to
do
that,
I
think
we're
going
to
be
short,
so
we've
developed
a
work
plan
of
what
we
have
with
the
resources
we
have.
A
If
your
motion
passes
and
we
adopt
and
we
get
additional
budget
additional
resources,
then
it
has
a
major
implication
now
the
work
plan
would
read
so
I
would
definitely
bring
it
back
when
we
have
the
budget
items
that
you've
that
have
been
put
into
the
motion
and
then
we'll
have
a
bigger
discussion
around
okay.
A
Here
are
the
resources.
Now?
What
does
that
look
like
in
terms
of
the
plan?
So
I
appreciate
your
your
comment,
but
I
do
expect
to
bring
it
back,
but
with
the
additional
information
on
additional
resources
as
well.
Let's
continue.
B
Can
I
can
I
just
respond?
I
think
that,
as
an
example
thinking
more
with
the
lens
of
equity-
okay,
in
other
words,
that
let's
just
say
that
we
all
agree
that
in
our
city
at
this
time,
we
need
to
view
what
we're
doing
with
the
lens
of
equity
and,
maybe
just
to
say,
racial
equity
as
an
example,
so
that
that's
not
something
that
we
need
more
money
for.
B
That
is
something
that
we
need
more
thought
to,
and
we
need
to
consider
more,
and
we
have
to
ask
the
community
about
that
when
we
have
our
any
public
hearing.
So
in
other
words,
it's
a
concept
that
we
add
not
necessarily
an
overlay
to
everything
we
do,
but
as
an
essence
to
what
we
do.
So
I
don't
think
that
costs
more
money.
It's
just
a
question
of
do.
Does
the
entire
group
want
to
add
that
I
mean
thank
you.
E
Is
mr
tran
thank
you
which
ran?
I
have
some
clarifying
questions
and
some
follow-up
comments,
but
the
motion
as
it
is
on
the
table
it's
to
request
for
more
funding,
and
it
also
sets
the
direction
for
how
that
additional
funding
would
be
spent
if
received
right,
okay.
Well,
I
I
definitely
support
that.
C
Hi,
I
should
have
changed
my
background.
I'll
give
myself
two
minutes
unlikely
in
the
next
two
weeks.
What
happens
when
you
make
a
this
will
go
to
the
rules
committee
under
public
record
as
correspondence
from
commissions
and
then
from
there.
They
can
direct
it
to
go
to
council.
It
won't
be
two
weeks.
E
C
E
I
asked
that
just
to
clarify,
because
if
there's
a
way
for
us
me,
I
don't
know
if
this
helps
at
all
in
terms
of
motion,
but
if
we
can
tap
into
alternative
funding
sources,
I
you
know
each
of
the
council.
Members
has
discretionary
funds
and
I'm
sure
it's
been
impacted
by
covert
19,
but
if
this
is
a
commitment
from
the
council
to
ensure
that
this
process
is
transparent
and
engages
the
community,
we
can
reach
out
to
the
individual
council
members
to
ask
them
to
devote
a
portion
of
the
discretionary
funds
to
support
this.
E
E
Thank
you
next,
commissioner,
commissioner,.
L
Brucio,
thank
you,
lisa.
I
have
a
couple
comments.
One
is
I
I'm
following
what
several
commissioners
have
have
been
talking
about,
commissioner
amador,
commissioner
fuentes,
it
falls
in
line
with,
with
with
the
tried
and
true
recommendations
of
mr
brownstein
in
terms
of
ensuring
that
we
don't
isolate
our
discussions,
especially
when
it
comes
to
structure
and
leaving
some
elements
off
the
table
right
until
we
get
to
it
on
the
calendar.
L
I
think
integrating
questions
about
economic
impact
equity,
a
community
engagement-
all
of
that
seems
to
be
part,
should
be
part
of
every
discussion
every
meeting
and
how
we,
how
we
do
that
on
the
work
plan
I
think
is
just
is
just
in
the
details
right,
but
it
definitely
needs
to
be
an
intentional
inclusion
that
we
do
that
right
in
any
in
any
the
part
of
our
conversations.
L
I
think
those
are
those
are
some
critical
elements
to
include,
and
with
that
going
back
to
my
recommendation
or
my
thinking
about
how
we
can
adjust
and
maximize
our
time
together
by
not
skipping,
you
know
from
one
month
to
month
like
one
month
to
one
month
because
because
of
a
holiday,
but
as
I
look
at
the
calendar,
we're
not
going
to
see
that
until
may
right
with
with
memorial
day
so
there'll
be
discussion
about
that.
L
So
I
appreciate
the
chair's
comments
early
on
that,
whatever
we
vote
on
today,
it's
a
living
document
so
in
terms
of
that
I'll
hold
off
on
on
making
any
any
recommendations.
But
a
suggestion
at
this
point
is
to
please
look
forward
in
the
off
meetings
between
civic
works
and
and
the
chair.
If
you
can,
if
you
can
look
into
may
and
the
summer
months
how
how
we
can
stagger
and
maximize
those
times
that
will
be
missing
right.
So
how
do
we?
L
And
lastly,
following
up
on
on
something
that
early
on
in
the
first
agenda
from
tony,
there
was
inclusion
of
all
the
memos
from
from
our
city
council
members,
and
I
did
track
the
string
of
conversation
about
campaign
reform
and
the
discussion
about
lobbyists,
and
I
know
that
council,
member
carrasco
and
esparza
our
mayor
and
council
member
arenas
did
touch
on
it.
L
But
in
looking
at
one
of
the
memos
it
did
say
that
let
me
see
quote
campaign
finance
reforms
and
further
restrictions
on
lobbyists,
involvement
in
government.
None
of
these
changes
require
a
charter
amendment
and
can
be
adopted
by
simple
majority
vote.
So
I
kind
of
didn't
bring
it
up
anymore,
because
I
felt
that
among
the
council
members
they
they
must
have
seen
that
hey
like
this
is
something
that
we
can
do
right
that
we
don't
need
to
have
have
the
commission
take
that
on.
L
But
for
a
point
of
clarification,
I
know
that
in
public
comments
there
was
there
was
something
like
mentioned-
that
we
do
have
a
hand
in
that.
L
So
I
don't
want
that
to
be
a
missed
opportunity,
if
that
is
within
our
purview
and
it
nuts,
and
it's
not
something
that
that
that
that
we
can
pass
the
buck
on.
So
just
clarification
is
that
something
that
we
should
include
to
to
talk
about,
just
because
I
know
in
the
summer
months.
This
was
also
part
of
the
conversation,
and
it
was
in
a
couple
of
memos
that
that
that
were
part
of
the
development
of
this
commission.
L
So
just
clarity
was
that
was
that
something
that
we
should
revisit
include,
or
is
that
something
that,
unfortunately,
the
member
of
the
community
was
misinformed
and
that
is
already
being
taken
care
of,
even
though
we
should
be
partnering
up?
I
love
the
spirit
of
that,
but
in
terms
of
the
technical
work,
is
that
something
that
we
should
re-include
or
is
that
something
that
we
it's
already
been
taken
care
of,
and
the
commission
doesn't
necessarily
have
to
work
on
that?
A
Commissioner,
I'm
going
to
ask
I'm
going
to
respond
to
two
points
that
you
made
and
to
your
last
point.
I
think
that
is
something
that
I
would
direct
staff
to
investigate
in
terms
of
the
ethics
committee's
work
and
to
understand.
Is
the
ethics
commission
looking
at
that,
specifically
how
that
might
impact
our
discussion
of
election
year
and
when
folks
are
elected?
Does
that?
Does
that
come
into
that
same
discussion
and
be
needed
to
be
included?
A
So
I'd
ask
for
staff
to
clarify
that
and
come
back
to
us
with
that,
just
from
a
clarity
perspective
and
doing
a
little
research
on
what
the
other
commission
is
doing
and
to
your
second
point,
though,
around
the
calendar
I'll
definitely
take
a
look
at
that.
One
of
the
things
that
is
helpful
is
not
having
a
meeting
in
order
for
staff
and
the
consultant
and
myself
to
get
some
work
done,
and
so
it
does
help
us
this
month,
really
helped
us
to
get
the
survey
completed.
To
get
the
analysis
done
to
adapt.
A
You
know
to
redo
the
work
work
plan
and
get
our
guests
invited
and
queued
up
as
well
as
posting
last
week
to
the
the
agenda
online.
So
it
does
give
us
a
little
bit
more
room.
I
know
that
the
rhythm
of
the
commission
itself
is
challenging,
but
I
do
I
do
appreciate
that
the
break
in
time
sometimes
really
can
help
us
to
get
things
done
as
well.
A
M
Oh,
it
was
the
same
as
what
commissioner
beroshler
was
saying
about
the
campaign
finance
reform,
because
I
did
ask
to
integrate
that
into
the
work
plan.
I
didn't
see
that
so
I
just
wanted
some
clarity
around.
Why
that
wasn't
there.
G
Yeah
hi,
I
I
was
kind
of
listening
through
the
discussion
and
hearing
the
the
motion,
as
articulated.
I
I
find
myself
unable
to
support
it,
mainly
because
the
the
funding
issue
I
mean
having
set
through
a
lot
of
the
budget
issues
with
the
city
council.
I
know
that
it's
unlikely
that
it'll
come
from
the
budget
and
we're
probably
going
to
have
to
do
a
lot
of
cuts
this
year
anyway,
but
just
from
a
matter
of
making
the
ask
this,
this
commission
was
was
formed
on.
G
They
assembled
23
of
us
to
you,
know,
spend
six
hours
a
month
of
hours
to
debate
and
dig
into
it
and
write
whatever
our
recommendation
will
be,
and
I
feel
that
we're
we're
kind
of
a
bit
of
mission-
creeper
or
maybe
that's
not
the
right
word,
but
we're
kind
of
expanding
the
scope
of
why
we
were
formed
to
go
and
request
funding
to
simply
go
to
the
public
and
say
well.
What
would
you
like
us
to
do?
What
would
you
like
us
to
cover?
What
would
you
like
us
to
explore?
G
I
was
during
the
first
meeting.
I
was
one
of
the
people
to
to
even
say
yeah.
We
should
look
at
everything.
We
should
look
at
other
chapters
of
the
charter
beyond
the
three
things,
but
that's
more
of
it,
like
an
academic
reading,
looking
and
making
recommendations
to
the
council.
G
What
we
feel
could
use
a
touch-up
or
recommendations
about
whatever
we
feel
we
should
recommend,
but
but
requesting
money
to
turn
this
endeavor
into
a
you
know,
an
opening
to
kind
of
revamp
the
charter
is,
I
think,
beyond
what
I'm
prepared
to
do.
So
that's
just
me
thanks.
E
A
E
Next,
commissioner,
commissioner,
fuentes.
A
Wait
wait.
She
spoke
already
on
this
yeah
yeah.
N
Okay,
all
right
so
we'll
keep
going
then
now,
commissioner,
might
ski
and
you're
on.
D
Thank
you,
mr
brownstein
talked
about.
We
really
need
to
have
a
free
winning
range
and
he
recommended
we
have
a
free-ranging
discussion
around
all
these
issues
at
one
time
you
know
throughout
this
process.
As
I
look
at
the
work
plan,
it's
very
linear
where
we
talk
about
one
issue,
resolve
it
talk
about
a
next
issue,
so
it
really
doesn't
take
that
into
account,
and
I
guess
I
would
suggest
at
a
minimum
after
public
hearing
number
three.
D
J
Thank
you,
so
I
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
we're
clear
on
the
intent
of
the
second
portion
of
commissioner
calendar's
motion
and
what
the
implications
of
it
are
for
for
the
work
plan
and
how
we
proceed,
and
so
I'm
gonna
state
what
I
I
think
that
is
and
and
hear
back
from
the
maker
of
the
motion
and
the
second
er.
You
know
whether
that
is
in
fact
the
intent
or
whether
there's
a
friendly
amendment
needed
there.
J
So
I
think
we
are
hearing
from
the
community
on
march
22nd
about
what
are
the
the
issues
of
concern
to
members
of
the
public
that
we,
as
the
commission,
need
to
be
undertaking
sort
of
that
full
scope.
I
think
it
was
elephant
right
like
what
are
the
parts
of
the
elephant
that
we
need
to
understand.
As
commissioner
calendar
spoke
about
earlier,
and
then
I
believe
what
that
means
is
that
we're
going
to
need
on
march
22nd.
J
I
can
see
potentially
that
that
discussion
would
need
to
spill
over
into
april
5th,
to
look
at
the
work
plan
and
see
what
implications
there
are
for
the
work
plan
of
the
input
that
we
have
received
so
that
we
can,
as
mr
brownstein
was
recommending
to
us,
make
sure
that
we
are
not
being
too
linear.
As
commissioner
matkey
was
speaking
about,
but
do
we
need
to
move
certain
topics
up?
Do
we
need
to
you
know,
build
in
this
time
to
talk
about
additional
measures?
J
I
think,
hopefully,
that's
also
going
to
be
a
good
time
for
us
to
lay
out
some
of
those
specific
research
questions
and
criteria
so
that
we're
being
sort
of
very
thoughtful
about
putting
our
topics
in
order
so
that
they
can
build
on
each
other
and
that
we
have
the
criteria,
conduct
research
about
how
the
criteria
apply,
learn
about
that
research,
etc.
So
that's
obviously
way
too
long
for
emotion,
but
I
did
want
to
clarify
that.
J
Essentially,
the
intention
is
to
use
march
22nd
potentially
april
5th
to
make
sure
that
we
have
that
fluidity
and
sort
of
interactions
that
we
need
in
the
work
plan
and
that
I
would
assume
that
that
means
that
it
is
possible.
We
we
will
not
be
concluding
on
september
20th,
but
but
may
need
additional
time
up
to,
of
course,
what's
possible
within
the
scope
of
our
council
direction.
F
Mr
chairman,
if
I
could
respond,
that
was
a
very
eloquent
rendition
of
what
I
said
to
accomplish
the
goals
of
what
my
motion
was
intended
to
do
so
correct.
A
I'm
not
surprised,
commissioner
calendar
that
was
she's
good
next,
commissioner,
commissioner,.
G
All
right,
thank
you.
Just
a
couple
of
things.
One
we've
heard
both
from
the
public
and
other
commissioners
referenced
campaign
finance.
I
think
it
would
be
nearly
impossible
for
this
commission
to
do
that
kind
of
work
without
some
council
support.
G
This
is
a
hugely
complicated
issue,
having
taught
it
in
my
courses
and
studied
at
some
that
we
are
dealing
with
local
state
federal
legal
issues.
I
I
would
you
know,
as
a
commission
in
particular,
doing
this
over
zoom
to
take
on
those
issues
at
the
same
time,
these
other
ones,
which
I
think
will
take
up
more
time
than
we
actually
think
at
least
as
it's
laid
out
on
the
work
plan.
G
I
find
it
really
hard
to
conceive
that
this
commission
would
be
able
to
take
on
those
ending
in
a
in
an
effective
way,
while
also
bringing
in
public
comment
without
some
additional
support,
and
I
I
felt
like
sort
of
the
commission
would
be
set
up
for
failure
if
we
were
being
asked
to
do
that
without
additional
resources
and
I'll
just
kind
of
follow
up
on
maria's
comment
earlier,
I
really
do
feel
like
we
need
a
before.
G
I
personally,
could
I
think,
vote
in
favor
of
the
work
plan
have
a
clear
sense
of
some
of
the
things
that
both
bob
and
john
were
talking
about
earlier
in
terms
of
criteria.
G
Equity,
for
example,
affects
things
like
the
elections
and
how
we
elect
people
so
there's
so
much
sort
of
cross,
pollination
and
interconnected
of
this.
I
think
we
as
a
commission
would
benefit
from
hearing
a
more
free-ranging
discussion
among
its
members.
Those
were
just
getting
to
know
each
other,
so
thank
you.
K
I
had
a
question
about
the
the
10
ngos
we're
going
to
be
working
with.
How
are
they
going
to
be
chosen?
Is
it
going
to
be
one
for
each
council
district?
Is
it
the
usual
suspects?
What
what
did
the
maker?
The
motion
have
in
mind.
F
If
I
came
to
the
chair,
I
didn't
have
to
sit
up
to
ten
so
that
so
that
the
staff
can
identify
who
they
are.
Hopefully
in
concert
with
the
the
leadership
here.
K
Okay,
well,
I
I
hope
that
we
don't
go
to
the
usual
suspects
that
we
find
the
most
important
organization
that
is
actually
dealing
with
some
of
the
issues
that
we're
going
to
be
tackling
including
accountability
and
inclusion,
and
that
some
thought
be
given
to
to
having
an
organization
from
each
council
district
to
to
address
some
of
these
things,
I'm
just
throwing
that
that
out
there.
I
also
have
a
concern
that
there's
a
whole
lot
of
mission
creep
that
I'm
hearing
tonight.
That
really
concerns
me.
K
You
know
campaign
finance
reform,
I
mean
we
have
a.
We
have
the
gentleman
who
talked
from
the
commission,
the
ethics
commission,
that
it
should
be
looking
into
this,
not
this
body
and
just
some
of
the
other,
some
of
the
other
issues
I'm
having
a
real
real
problems
with
mission
creep.
I
I
I
think
I
agree
with
mr
personville
that
you
know
we
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do
with
just
what
we've
been
charged
to
do,
and
I
think
that
we
need
to
do
that.
K
I
don't
disagree
that
we
shouldn't
integrate
accountability
and
inclusion
and
some
of
those
other
things
into
the
direction,
but
it
isn't
just
about.
You
know
whether
it's
a
mayor
manager
or
a
manager
led
there's.
Also
the
issue
of
the
we
were
asked
about
the
election,
and
you
know
it's
a
simple
question:
you
know:
should:
should
the
mayor
get
six
years
or
or
when
when
should
the
the
changeover
take
place,
so
you
know
I.
I
hope
that
we
can
stay
focused
on
what
our
what
our
charges
I've
said
this
before.
K
K
The
the
charge
we
were
given
was
sort
of
a
compromise
among
all
of
the
varying
factions
of
the
of
the
council
about
what
they
wanted
to
have
us
look
at,
and
then
the
hodgepodge
at
the
end
was
to
to
make
sure
that
we
we
looked
at
some
of
the
issues
that
are
facing
us
in
this
particular
moment
in
time
that
we're
in
with
regard
to
accountability
and
inclusion.
K
So
I
just
wanted
to
share
my
concern
that
there's
a
lot
of
mission
creep
and-
and
I
am
concerned
that
we're
not
going
to
get
finished
with
the
job
that
we've
been
asked
to
do
and
we're
going
to
come
forward
with
things
that
we
weren't
asked
to
look
at.
Thank
you.
N
All
right
well,
commissioner:
elizotte
was
our
last
commissioner,
with
a
new
hand
raised
so
I'll
turn
back
to
you
chair,
thank.
A
You
so
much
thanks
for
all
your
comments.
I
guess
I
want
to
ask
for
a
little
bit
of
I
I'm
I'm
in
some
ways
sharing
commissioner
lizot's
concern
around
not
so
much
mission
creep,
but
just
a
matter
of
we
are
in
a
a
timeline
to
get
our
recommendations
through
our
two
plans
done
and
to
counsel,
so
we
don't
have
unlimited
time.
Nor
do
we
have
unlimited
resources,
so
I
want
to
keep
us
focused
on
the
charges
that
we
have
kind
of
in
front
of
us.
A
I
don't
want
that
to
in
any
way
be
limited
to
the
lenses
in
which
we
look
at
them.
So
the
questions
that
we're
asking
and
the
kind
of
the
first
four
things
and
then
the
the
the
hodgepodge
as
commissioner
lizot
said,
that
those
first
ones
are
very
specific
questions
that
I
think
we
need
to
address
in
a
in
a
timely
fashion
for
the
report.
A
I
don't
think
that
any
of
those
the
issues
of
equity
or
inclusion,
diversity,
those
are
not
lenses
that
we
have
that
in
any
way
are
limited
to
take
on
the
economic
issue.
I
think
is
also
one
that
we
should
look
at.
So,
looking
at
these
questions
in
a
hard
way,
I'm
completely
hoping
that
we
look
at
all
these
questions
with
these
lenses.
A
I'm
hearing
very
strongly
from
the
commission
that
you
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
integrated
conversations
so
that
we're
not
having
a
conversation
only
about
one
thing,
I'm
hoping
that
you
read
the
work
plan
as
a
plan
not
as
a
dictate
in
any
way
so
questions
and
comments
and
thoughts
and
changes.
As
we
continue
to
have
speakers,
and
as
we
continue
our
study
sessions,
I
mean
the
work
plan
should
change
every
week.
A
A
A
Look
at
the
motion
tonight
as
this
work
plan
being
as
of
now,
so
that
we
keep
moving
and
developing
it,
but
it
will
never
be
done,
and
so
there
never
will
be
a
time
when
we're
going
to
be
able
to
say.
Oh
now,
the
work
plan
is
done.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
that
folks
understand
we
will
continue
to
amend
and
change
and
open
it
up
and
and
look
at
it.
We
also
can
look
at
the
calendar.
A
I've
also
heard
in
terms
of
more
discussion
in
the
round
table
in
terms
of
okay.
So
what
do
you
all
think
now
and
we're
certainly
able
to
as
we
build
the
agendas,
we're
certainly
able
to
do
that
as
well?
There's
one
issue
that
was
not
brought
up
that
I
wanted
to
circle
back
on.
In
terms
of
the
question
I
have
on
the
budget,
resources,
translation
was
not
brought
up
and
I'm
wondering
if
that
was
just
an
omission
by
commissioner
calendar-
around
resources.
A
Thank
you,
okay.
So
mr
fuentes.
B
Okay,
thank
you.
So
I
would
like
to
make
a
recommendation
to
the
maker
and
the
second
of
the
motion.
B
If
they
would
include
a
friendly
amendment
that
states
that
we
will
look,
we
will
look
at
at
all
our
work
and
let
me
just
give
you
a
quick
example
like,
for
instance,
just
looking
at
march
22nd
what
we
will
be
doing:
okay
and
we
all
have
the
the
the
work
plan,
but
then
every
that
we
will
look
at
everything
we
do
with
the
lens
of
equi
economic
and
racial
equity
and
strong
represent
strong
representative
government,
and
so
the
idea
is
that,
as
we
do
this
work
I
mean
chair
with
respect
to
you.
B
We
already
today
have
new
ideas,
new
input
that
is
informing
the
work
plan,
and-
and
so
this
is
an
example
of
where
I'm
making
this
offering
this
friendly
amendment.
That
again,
that
we
include
that
we
look
at
everything
all
our
you
know
within
our
work
plan,
nothing
not
adding
a
separate
item,
but
look
at
everything
with
an
economic
and
equity
lens
as
well.
I'm
sorry,
economic
and
racial
equity
lens
and
the
lens
of
strong
representative
government
governance.
F
Mr
chairman,
if
I
can
respond,
I
believe
my
motion
was
in
regards
to
the
request
for
budgeted
for
the
specific
purposes
for
outreach,
etc,
and
then
the
other
one
was
ensure
that
we're
getting
the
information
from
the
public
in
a
timely
fashion
so
that
we
immediately
start.
I'm
not
sure
I
hear
what
mr
freya
clintus
is
saying.
Commissioner,
francis
is
saying
I,
but
that
may
be
a
separate
motion.
I'm
not
sure
that
it
ties
into
my
emotions.
F
F
A
Gonna,
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna,
agree
with
commissioner
calendar
and
and
ask
that
commissioner
fuentes,
that
if
you
have
that
motion
I'll
accept
it
after
we
take
a
vote
on
this
first
one
and.
J
Very
briefly,
I
do
want
to
make
sure
that
we
get
a
copy
of
the
civic
maker's
contract
just
so
that
we,
you
know,
understand
that
that
scope,
as
we
also
talk
about
what
other
resources
we
need.
We
know
we
don't
want
to
duplicate
between
those
resources
and
what's
in
the
contract,
we
also
don't
want
to
leave
gaps
between
the
two,
and
I
don't
know
if
that
needs
to
be
included
in
the
motion
or
can
simply
be
a
request.
Okay,
then
it's
a
request.
A
It's
a
request
that
we
can
do.
That's
not
a
problem.
Okay,
you
ready
for
the
question
okay.
So
the
motion
on
the
floor
is
to
adopt
the
work
plan,
as
it
is
today
again
with
the
understanding
that
we'll
continue
to
change
it
as
we
move
forward
with
a
request
to
come
back
with
funding
a
funding
request
for
outside
counsel
research,
for
qualitative
analysis,
for
funding
for
up
to
10
grassroots
organizations
and
for
additional
translation
services.
A
In
addition,
the
that
public
comment
be
moved
up
to
looking
at
the
march
22nd
meeting
and
that
we
integrate
the
issues
along
the
way
in
terms
of
all
of
our
conversations
and
not
wait
till
the
end,
I
guess
is
what
I'm
trying
to
say
and
if
we're
ready
for
the
question,
I'd
ask
the
clerk
to
call
the
rule.
G
C
C
E
C
D
B
C
B
C
I
C
A
Thank
you,
I'm
going
to
ask
mr
fuentes
if
you
wanted
to
make
a
motion.
B
So,
okay,
so
my
motion
is
that.
B
That,
as
we
work
through
this
work
plan
that
we
look
at
everything
at
every
step,
along
the
way
through
a
an
economic
and
racial
equity
lens
and
that
we
look
at
how
how
our
work
is
going
to
impact.
B
You
know
I
would
again
like
to
explain
that,
especially
after
hearing
the
the
significance
and
importance
of
our
work
in
the
long
term
of
the
city,
looking
at
our
work
plan,
without
considering
these
critical
issues
that
we're
living
today,
it
it
would
have
something
major
lacking,
it
would
have
a
it
would
be
lacking
the
essence
of
of
what
we
need
to
do
for
our
city,
because
these
issues
are
so
important
and
and
again
as
as
has
been
mentioned
more
than
once.
Not
just
for
me
is.
D
B
And
I
look
at
the
work
plan
and
I
look
at
the
items
and
I
think
what
are
these
things
aren't
brought
into
into
our
thoughts
and
in
our
discussions,
are
we
really
doing
our
our
our
duty?
Are
we
really
serving
our
community.
A
Okay,
I
moved
to
discussion.
Do
you
hand
raised.
K
I
do
I
have
a
friendly
amendment,
given
that
this
is
national
women's
month,
I'd
like
to
add
gender
to
the
economic
and
racial
lens.
M
Yes-
and
I
would
also
like
to
add
another
amendment
where
we
are
partnering
up
with
the
representative
from
the
office
of
racial
equity-
this
was
a.
I
know,
it's
a
new
program
that
the
city
put
out,
but
I
know
that
they've
been,
I
was.
I
was
really.
I
had
the
a
couple
years
ago,
been
able
to
work
with
the
government's
alliance
on
race
and
equity,
which
is
called
gear,
and
I
know
that
the
this
new
office
has
been
working
along
science
as
well
as
with
the
county
on
this.
M
A
Okay,
so
the
friendly
amendment
is
to
additionally
work
with
the
office
of
racial
equity
maker.
The
motion.
A
B
D
Mission
creep
is
my
concern
and
it's
not
that
these
things
aren't
all
important
to
weave
in,
and
I
don't
know
if
I'm
gonna
I'll
probably
support
the
motion,
but
it's
it's
really
a
concern
for
me
that
we're
that
we're
trying
going
to
perhaps
try
to
do
too
much
to
meet
a
deadline
of
next
fall
to
finish
this
up,
and
I
think
we
need
at
some
point
to
to
take
stock
of
that,
because
I
don't
see
I
mean
we're
march
now
and
we
don't
have
a
work
plan
that
we've
really
you
know
agreed
on.
D
I
you
know
I
hope
people
can
think
about
about
focusing
a
little
more.
Thank
you,
commissioner.
E
Tran,
thank
you.
I
take
this
motion
and
the
last
as
a
statement
of
principles
or
a
statement
of
of
you
know
wants
right
and
which
is
why
I'm
in
support
right.
I
mean
the
reason
why
and
I'm
going
to
be
supporting
in
support
of
this,
but
to
be
clear,
I
don't
think
we
have
any
authority
to,
for
example,
require
or
demand
the
city
council
to
grant
us
additional
budget.
E
A
Any
other
comments,
commissioner,
I'm
sorry.
L
Commissioner,
yes
perfect,
thank
you
luis
barocio,
two
things
one
is.
I
hear
I
hear
a
mission
creep.
If
I'm
saying
that
right,
I
need.
I
need
some
definition
on
that.
I'm
not
I'm
not
up
to
date
on
that
on
that
on
that
term,
and
then
two
I
will
be,
I
will
be
supporting
this
motion.
I
think
I
think
it
falls
in
line
with
with
the
fifth
task
right.
Consider
additional
men
consider
additional
measures
and
potential
charter
amendments
as
needed
that
will
improve
accountability,
representation
and
inclusion.
L
So
I
think
it's
right
in
our
task.
We're
just
we're
just
taking
five
and
ensuring
that
one
through
four
are
in
are
in
line
with
number
five
and
along
with
looking
more
broadly
as
number
five
pushes
us
to,
but
I
think,
but
I
think
number
five
covers
the
spirit
of
this
of
this
of
this
of
this
motion.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Matt
samara.
J
Thank
you.
I
will
be
supporting
the
motion
sort
of
as
commissioner
hui
tran
stated,
and
thank
you
for
being
so
good
about
remembering
to
say
your
name
at
the
beginning
of
your
comments.
Ellie
must
tomorrow
try
to
work
on
that.
I
do,
though,
also
want
to
respond
and
say
I
think,
statements
of
of
principle.
The
function
of
statements
of
principle
are
as
a
commission
to
statement
the
principle
in
the
previous
motion
or
as
a
commission
to
dictate
how
we
do
the
work
together.
J
Ultimately,
the
scope
of
our
power
is
to
make
recommendations
to
the
council,
but
in
order
to
do
that,
we
have
quite
a
process
ahead
of
us
to
do
the
best
possible
job,
and
so
I
don't
want
to.
I
guess
I
don't
want
to
understate
the
scope
of
that
power,
but
because
you
know
we,
we
are
responsible
for
the
work
plan.
J
We
are
responsible
for
giving
giving
direction,
as
I
understand
it,
to
the
staff
that
we
have
supporting
us
and
thank
you
to
lawrence
for
that
and
to
the
chair
for
the
role
that
he's
playing
in
that.
And-
and
I
just
want
us
to
to
be
aware-
that
that
scope
and
responsibility
that
we
have
to
to
carry
out
this
process
to
maximum
effect.
D
A
See
no
other
hands,
I'm
going
to
ask
the
maker
of
the
motion.
Would
you
see
this
as
being
written
into
our
commissioner
agreements
under
we
value
diversity,
the
additional
language
that
you're
suggesting
tonight?
Would
you
see
that
is
where
we
should
make
sure
we
put
this?
It
obviously
gets
into
our
work
but
to
to
operationalize
it
into
our
agreements.
B
A
Is
there
any
I've
seen
on
their
hands,
and
so
I'm
going
to
move
to
the
question
all
those
in
favor?
If
the
clerk
will
take
the
role.
J
D
G
K
B
C
M
A
C
C
C
A
C
Okay,
so
let
me
go
back
to
5140.