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City of San José, California
Charter Review Commission Public Hearing of September 25, 2021

This public meeting will be conducted via Zoom Webinar. For information on public participation via Zoom, please refer to the linked meeting agenda below.

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Elements of mirah enrico 2, 00:00:15,022, -->, 00:00:22.004, callendar,, frank medeski,, erica 3, 00:00:22,004, -->, 00:00:26.022, garik. First of all, air 4, 00:00:26,022, -->, 00:00:34.029, george sanchez, we tranh 5, 00:00:34,029, -->, 00:00:39.026, karameh roots here, jose posadas 6, 00:00:39,026, --> 00:00:49.012, here lendio, linda lizotte,, 7, 00:00:49,012, --> 00:00:54.007, louise brosco, air magnolia's, 8, 00:00:54,007, -->, 00:00:59.027, present maria fantas here, 9 00:00:59,027, -->, 00:01:02.001, sammy robledo, here cherry 10, 00:01:02,001, -->, 00:01:13.029 cigarroa, here ti tran tobane 11 00:01:13,029 --> 00:01:17.001 gilman here, ranucci amador, 12, 00:01:17,001, -->, 00:01:25.022, yongzhou ir and frederich 13 00:01:25,022 -->, 00:01:28.028 rare.

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Here we have a quorum 14, 00:01:28,028, --> 00:01:29.017. Thank you appreciate, 15 00:01:29,017, -->, 00:01:31.018 commissioners., I'm taking their 16 00:01:31,018 --> 00:01:33.023 saturday morning and donating 17 00:01:33,023 --> 00:01:35.004 it to our cities. Benefit.. It's 18, 00:01:35,004, -->, 00:01:38.022 good. To see you all again. This 19 00:01:38,022 -->. 00:01:39.004 morning we have a public 20, 00:01:39,004 --> 00:01:41.019 hearing in the public hearing 21 00:01:41,019 --> 00:01:42.008. It's designed for the 22 00:01:42,008 --> 00:01:44.003 commissioners to hear from the 23 00:01:44,003 --> 00:01:46.002 public.. We have four 24 00:01:46,002 --> 00:01:48.009 presentations, this morning.

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25 00:01:48,009 --> 00:01:49.009. These are coming out of a 26 00:01:49,009 --> 00:01:51.008 subcommittee of the commission, 27 00:01:51,008 --> 00:01:52.018, and these are the four 28 00:01:52,018 --> 00:01:53.007 recommendations, they're, making 29 00:01:53,007 --> 00:01:55.016 to the full commission.- they 30 00:01:55,016 --> 00:01:57.020 made these at our last meeting. 31 00:01:57,020, --> 00:01:58.002 they'll be repeating those 32 00:01:58,002 --> 00:02:01.003 presentations. Today for this 33 00:02:01,003 --> 00:02:03.011 for the public's input., we will 34 00:02:03,011 --> 00:02:05.006, then move to public input., the 35 00:02:05,006 --> 00:02:07.010 format they will be using.

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Is we 36 00:02:07,010 --> 00:02:09.009 will be having each of the 37 00:02:09,009 --> 00:02:11.013 speakers present their 38 00:02:11,013 --> 00:02:13.019 recommendation first and then 39 00:02:13,019 --> 00:02:14.007, we'll hear from the public on 40 00:02:14,007 --> 00:02:16.026 that recommendation. then we'll 41, 00:02:16,026 --> 00:02:17.002 have the next recommendation: 42 00:02:17,002 --> 00:02:19.016 and then hear from the public 43 00:02:19,016 --> 00:02:21.018 again.. So we for opportunities, 44 00:02:21,018, --> 00:02:23.006 for the public to give us input.

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45 00:02:23,006 --> 00:02:25.020 on the four individual sets of 46 00:02:25,020 --> 00:02:27.014 recommendations and at this 47 00:02:27,014 --> 00:02:29.015 time, I'm going to ask our first 48 00:02:29,015 --> 00:02:31.008 commissioner, this morning to 49 00:02:31,008 --> 00:02:33.018 present the recommendations, 50 00:02:33,018 --> 00:02:34.009 from the subcommittee 51 00:02:34,009 --> 00:02:37.023, commissioner mansky. Thank you, 52 00:02:37,023, --> 00:02:39.016, chair for her. and as the chair 53 00:02:39,016 --> 00:02:41.014 mentioned,. This proposal is the 54 00:02:41,014 --> 00:02:43.015 same one.

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That was there on 55 00:02:43,015, --> 00:02:45.002 monday., but we plan to do is 56 00:02:45,002, --> 00:02:47.009, take the input received both on 57 00:02:47,009, -->, 00:02:49.019 monday and today and see if 58, 00:02:49,019, --> 00:02:50.015 there's any changes that we 59 00:02:50,015 --> 00:02:51.006 want to make before we take it. 60 00:02:51,006, --> 00:02:53.009. To the full commission.- so I 61 00:02:53,009 --> 00:02:55.015 have nothing formally prepared. 62 00:02:55,015 --> 00:02:57.005. The item is, you can see the 63 00:02:57,005 --> 00:03:00.012 full proposal on the agenda.

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64 00:03:00,012 --> 00:03:01.011, it's fairly simple, so I'm just 65 00:03:01,011 --> 00:03:03.001, going to speak directly to it. 66 00:03:03,001, --> 00:03:06.006. It really is addressing the 67 00:03:06,006 --> 00:03:07.008, future charter review, 68 00:03:07,008, --> 00:03:08.017 commissions and whether we 69 00:03:08,017 --> 00:03:09.000 should have how they should 70 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:13.001 happen or not.. So, as I think, a 71 00:03:13,001 --> 00:03:14.001 lot of people are aware of the 72 00:03:14,001 --> 00:03:16.014.

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Last review commission occurred, 73, 00:03:16,014 --> 00:03:18.020 more than thirty five years ago, 74 00:03:18,020, --> 00:03:20.021 and a lot has changed in san 75, 00:03:20,021 --> 00:03:22.005, jose since that time. and so 76 00:03:22,005 --> 00:03:25.006. The thought being is that we 77 00:03:25,006 --> 00:03:26.020, may want to have a regular 78, 00:03:26,020 --> 00:03:28.024 review of the charter, more 79 00:03:28,024 --> 00:03:30.010, often than thirty five years., 80 00:03:30,010, --> 00:03:32.024.

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Also the previous charter, 81 00:03:32,024, --> 00:03:33.018 review commissions and this one 82 00:03:33,018 --> 00:03:35.012 are advisory only to the 83 00:03:35,012 --> 00:03:38.010. Council, and so the thought 84 00:03:38,010, --> 00:03:40.006 being, is that perhaps we want 85 00:03:40,006 --> 00:03:42.009 to do a little bit more and 86 00:03:42,009 --> 00:03:43.017. This is where those two issues- 87 00:03:43,017 --> 00:03:44.000- that I want to speak to is 88 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46.019. Should there be future charter, 89, 00:03:46,019, -->, 00:03:48.002 review commissions and and what 90 00:03:48,002 --> 00:03:50.019 authority?

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Should the commission 91 00:03:50,019 --> 00:03:52.027 have?, so with this proposal, 92 00:03:52,027 --> 00:03:54.029? Does it include language into 93, 00:03:54,029, --> 00:03:56.027, the charter that requires a 94 00:03:56,027 --> 00:03:58.026 charter review commission to 95 00:03:58,026 --> 00:04:01.028 occur every ten years? one of 96 00:04:01,028 --> 00:04:03.005 the hottest issues that we're 97 00:04:03,005 --> 00:04:05.003 facing in this particular 98 00:04:05,003 --> 00:04:07.012 commission is how big should 99 00:04:07,012 --> 00:04:08.013, the council, be? and so there's 100 00:04:08,013 --> 00:04:09.016 been some very interesting 101 00:04:09,016 --> 00:04:11.020 discussion along those lines.

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102, 00:04:11,020, -->, 00:04:12.021, and so with that in mind,, the 103 00:04:12,021 --> 00:04:13.028 thought was that we should 104 00:04:13,028 --> 00:04:14.013, probably have a charter review.

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105 00:04:14,013 --> 00:04:18.003 commission in advance of the 106 00:04:18,003 --> 00:04:20.022 census, since that question may 107 00:04:20,022 --> 00:04:21.029 still come up is how large to 108, 00:04:21,029 --> 00:04:23.016 the council be that it would 109 00:04:23,016 --> 00:04:25.004 make sense to have it every ten 110 00:04:25,004 --> 00:04:27.016 years, and it would occur two 111 00:04:27,016 --> 00:04:28.013 years prior to receiving the 112 00:04:28,013 --> 00:04:31.023 census.

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So in this case, what's 113 00:04:31,023 --> 00:04:32.021, the next one would start in the 114 00:04:32,021 --> 00:04:34.014 year, twenty twenty eight and we 115 00:04:34,014 --> 00:04:36.014, give the commission two years, 116 00:04:36,014 --> 00:04:38.024, to look at any any potential. 117 00:04:38,024, -->, 00:04:40.027 revisions before going to the 118 00:04:40,027 --> 00:04:43.012 council, and that in case that 119 00:04:43,012 --> 00:04:46.005 impact the work that needs to 120 00:04:46,005 --> 00:04:48.029 be done after the city received 121, 00:04:48,029, --> 00:04:50.021, the census. That's the primary 122 00:04:50,021 --> 00:04:53.011 issue.

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As I mentioned, it was 123 00:04:53,011, -->, 00:04:56.013, also advisory only and so what 124 00:04:56,013 --> 00:05:00.000. This does is supposed there 125 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03.015 broad support for a particular 126 00:05:03,015 --> 00:05:04.012 change to the charter by the 127 00:05:04,012 -->. 00:05:06.020 commission.- yet the council, 128 00:05:06,020 --> 00:05:07.012 still has the ability to 129 00:05:07,012 --> 00:05:09.010, basically ignore it or to vote 130 00:05:09,010 --> 00:05:12.018 it down., and so what the other 131 00:05:12,018 --> 00:05:14.029 item in this proposal is that 132 00:05:14,029 --> 00:05:16.010.

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If there is a supermajority by 133, 00:05:16,010, -->, 00:05:19.028 this commission and and we 134 00:05:19,028 --> 00:05:21.007, based it on again two 135 00:05:21,007 --> 00:05:23.006 individuals per council, 136, 00:05:23,006, -->, 00:05:24.029 district plus three from the 137 00:05:24,029 --> 00:05:25.025 mayor, so be the same makeup as 138 00:05:25,025 --> 00:05:29.004. It is today. if there were 17 139 00:05:29,004 --> 00:05:32.026 commissioners who thought that 140 00:05:32,026 --> 00:05:32.004 that there should be a 141, 00:05:32,004, -->, 00:05:34.022 particular change in the 142 00:05:34,022 --> 00:05:36.012 charter.

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Then it would require a 143 00:05:36,012, --> 00:05:38.018 supermajority by the council, 144 00:05:38,018, --> 00:05:39.011 and in this case eight of the 145 00:05:39,011 --> 00:05:41.012. Eleven members to vote to 146 00:05:41,012 --> 00:05:43.014 reject it and if not, it would 147 00:05:43,014 --> 00:05:45.003 move forward onto the ballot. 148 00:05:45,003 --> 00:05:49.000. So that's that's the that's 149 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52.023 that particular provision., the 150 00:05:52,023 --> 00:05:53.023, the numbers of seventeen and 151 00:05:53,023 --> 00:05:55.011 eight are roughly seventy five 152 00:05:55,011 --> 00:05:58.020 percent of the total.

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Doesn't 153 00:05:58,020 --> 00:05:59.015 exactly like that, and we did 154 00:05:59,015 --> 00:06:01.025 get some input on monday that 155 00:06:01,025 --> 00:06:02.027. Perhaps we want to change it to 156 00:06:02,027 --> 00:06:03.002, a percentage rather than a 157 00:06:03,002 --> 00:06:06.024 number, and that would be simple.

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158 00:06:06,024 --> 00:06:08.003 simplify it because if the 159 00:06:08,003 --> 00:06:10.004 members, the number of members 160 00:06:10,004, --> 00:06:11.015, did change, then we would have 161 00:06:11,015 --> 00:06:12.027 to change its position as well: 162 00:06:12,027, --> 00:06:13.018 to to account for that., so 163 00:06:13,018, --> 00:06:14.005, we'll be looking at that 164 00:06:14,005 -->, 00:06:18.017 particular change as well., so 165 00:06:18,017, --> 00:06:19.029. With that, it's really three 166 00:06:19,029 --> 00:06:20.026 questions. Should it be a future 167 00:06:20,026 -->, 00:06:22.029 charter commission??

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That's it 168, 00:06:22,029 --> 00:06:23.012 makes sense to have it every 169, 00:06:23,012 --> 00:06:26.021, ten years before the census and 170 00:06:26,021 --> 00:06:27.003. Then three. Should there be some 171 00:06:27,003 --> 00:06:30.000 provision to allow the 172 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:31.026 commission to have a little bit 173 00:06:31,026 --> 00:06:31.011 more authority than just 174 00:06:31,011, -->, 00:06:34.017 advisory?. So with that chair, 175, 00:06:34,017, -->, 00:06:35.023, I'll, open it up to a public 176 00:06:35,023 --> 00:06:36.011 comment. thank you, 177 00:06:36,011, --> 00:06:38.000, commissioner miski.

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and now 178 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40.022 hearing from the public on this 179 00:06:40,022 --> 00:06:41.023 set of recommendations and the 180 00:06:41,023 --> 00:06:42.022 clerk can tell the first 181 00:06:42,022 --> 00:06:53.000 speaker just a second, almost 182 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:58.002. There veronica. oh,, I think 183 00:06:58,002 --> 00:07:08.020 she's, our commissioner, right. 184 00:07:08,020 --> 00:07:15.000, biomass. hello,. This is brett. 185 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17.024, my master., I'm the executive 186 00:07:17,024 --> 00:07:18.011 director at healing grove, 187 00:07:18,011, -->, 00:07:22.013 health center..

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I want to direct 188 00:07:22,013 --> 00:07:24.021 you to take a look at the 189 00:07:24,021 --> 00:07:25.019 report that human growth just 190 00:07:25,019 --> 00:07:28.018 released.. We have commissioned 191 00:07:28,018 --> 00:07:30.005, a set of twenty or thirty 192 00:07:30,005 --> 00:07:32.005 volunteers,, spanish speaking, 193 00:07:32,005 --> 00:07:34.005 people to go out and collect 194 00:07:34,005 --> 00:07:37.000 data on the desires of the 195 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:38.002, spanish speaking, community, 196 00:07:38,002 --> 00:07:39.027, particularly undocumented 197 00:07:39,027 --> 00:07:41.015 immigrants on direction for the 198 00:07:41,015 -->. 00:07:43.012. Charter.

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Commission.- so take a 199 00:07:43,012 --> 00:07:47.006 look at go to big el y sj 200 00:07:47,006 -->, 00:07:49.010 charter, twenty twenty one again: 201 00:07:49,010 --> 00:07:52.024, that's bitwise, s.j charter, 202, 00:07:52,024, -->, 00:07:53.017, twenty twenty one and I 203 00:07:53,017 --> 00:07:54.011, encourage you really take a 204 00:07:54,011 --> 00:07:56.028. Careful look at that report.

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so 205 00:07:56,028 --> 00:07:57.026 by a two thirds margin: spanish 206 00:07:57,026, --> 00:07:59.005 speaking latinos of the more 207 00:07:59,005 --> 00:08:01.001 than 350 families that we 208 00:08:01,001 --> 00:08:04.009 surveyed, prefer a council 209 00:08:04,009 --> 00:08:06.001 manager form like wickmayer as 210 00:08:06,001 --> 00:08:10.012 opposed to a strong form. 211 00:08:10,012 --> 00:08:12.010. Two thirds of respondents also 212 00:08:12,010 --> 00:08:14.011 prefer for the police chief to 213 00:08:14,011 --> 00:08:18.012, be appointed by a majority of 214 00:08:18,012 --> 00:08:19.003.

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The council instead of 215 00:08:19,003 --> 00:08:22.003 appointed by the city manager, 216 00:08:22,003, --> 00:08:24.012, and we found that respondents 217 00:08:24,012 --> 00:08:26.028 were split 50 50, on whether we 218 00:08:26,028 --> 00:08:27.022 should move the mayoral 219 00:08:27,022 --> 00:08:29.028 elections to the to the to the 220 00:08:29,028 --> 00:08:30.019 presidential cycle versus the 221 00:08:30,019 --> 00:08:32.015 midterm cycle..

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So I love to 222 00:08:32,015 --> 00:08:33.009 encourage you to take a look at 223, 00:08:33,009 -->, 00:08:35.000, that having that sort of data, 224 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38.006, getting spanish speaking data 225 00:08:38,006 --> 00:08:40.014 from immigrants is a challenge: 226 00:08:40,014, --> 00:08:41.010 and that's really great data. 227 00:08:41,010 --> 00:08:43.008, we'll continue that work and we 228 00:08:43,008 --> 00:08:44.012 expect to have four to five 229 00:08:44,012 --> 00:08:47.011 hundred respondents by the end. 230 00:08:47,011 --> 00:08:48.026. I do think it's important to 231 00:08:48,026 --> 00:08:49.027.

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Note that a lot of the reason 232 00:08:49,027 --> 00:08:52.016, that people want to stay with 233 00:08:52,016, --> 00:08:54.017, the council manager system and 234 00:08:54,017 --> 00:08:56.025 limit mayoral powers is because 235 00:08:56,025 --> 00:08:58.024, that for minority groups, the 236 00:08:58,024 --> 00:09:00.012 mayor represents the whole city 237 00:09:00,012 --> 00:09:02.004, only thirty percent of which is 238 00:09:02,004 --> 00:09:05.011 is latino spanish speaking and 239 00:09:05,011 --> 00:09:08.009. So they want power to stay in 240. 00:09:08,009. --≫. 00:09:10.029.

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The council.- so that they have 241 00:09:10,029 --> 00:09:11.028 representation, particularly 242 00:09:11,028, --> 00:09:12.011 from districts that have 243 00:09:12,011 -->, 00:09:14.006 majority, spanish speaking, 244 00:09:14,006, -->, 00:09:15.022 folks.. I think that's an 245 00:09:15,022 --> 00:09:16.023 important thing to note. I'd, 246, 00:09:16,023, --> 00:09:18.022 love to encourage you again, a 247 00:09:18,022, -->, 00:09:21.016 bit.. Why s.j charter twenty 248 00:09:21,016 --> 00:09:32.003, twenty one lenaghan good 249, 00:09:32,003 --> 00:09:34.022 morning commissioners., I just 250 00:09:34,022 --> 00:09:35.018, want to reiterate what I had 251 00:09:35,018 --> 00:09:38.015 said on monday, which is frank.

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I 252 00:09:38,015 --> 00:09:40.014, do appreciate this presentation: 253 00:09:40,014 --> 00:09:43.026, and I support that. We should 254 00:09:43,026 --> 00:09:44.005 have regular charter review, 255 00:09:44,005, -->, 00:09:49.023 commission in place and part 256 00:09:49,023 -->. 00:09:51.000 of that is. I feel that as much 257 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54.024 as tech companies update their 258 00:09:54,024 --> 00:09:55.027 terms and conditions because 259 00:09:55,027 --> 00:09:56.016, that's our most important 260 00:09:56,016 --> 00:09:58.014 document that protects whatever 261 00:09:58,014 --> 00:10:00.014.

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It is they're doing and enables 262 00:10:00,014 --> 00:10:01.028 them to do whatever it is: 263 00:10:01,028, -->, 00:10:02.007 they're doing that we should 264 00:10:02,007 --> 00:10:04.016 take the same approach with our 265 00:10:04,016 --> 00:10:06.014 charter, because world is 266, 00:10:06,014 -->, 00:10:08.011 changing.. It has changed a lot 267 00:10:08,011 --> 00:10:10.029 in the last few years, and not 268 00:10:10,029 --> 00:10:11.017, updating our constitutional 269, 00:10:11,017, --> 00:10:13.009 document on a regular basis.

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I 270, 00:10:13,009, --> 00:10:15.018, think exposes our city and our 271 00:10:15,018 --> 00:10:17.023 community to vulnerabilities 272 00:10:17,023 --> 00:10:19.023 with this doesn't enable to 273 00:10:19,023 --> 00:10:20.017, respond to the present 274 00:10:20,017 --> 00:10:22.002 circumstances at our fullest 275 00:10:22,002 --> 00:10:26.027 capacity and I'd also like to 276 00:10:26,027 --> 00:10:27.002 share that in the same way that 277 00:10:27,002 --> 00:10:30.014, we take an approach to the 278 00:10:30,014 --> 00:10:31.028, civic education around our city, 279, 00:10:31,028, -->, 00:10:32.021 budget to make it an inclusive, 280, 00:10:32,021 -->, 00:10:34.004 process..

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I think we should take 281 00:10:34,004 --> 00:10:36.004, that approach with our city, 282 00:10:36,004, --> 00:10:39.000 charter in before 10 year marks 283 00:10:39,000, --> 00:10:40.028, so that we can provide 284, 00:10:40,028, -->, 00:10:41.012 education and that could 285 00:10:41,012 --> 00:10:43.006 help improve the quality 286 00:10:43,006 --> 00:10:45.002 recruited residents that 287 00:10:45,002 --> 00:10:46.026 want to participate in this 288 00:10:46,026 --> 00:10:47.003 process., but it also sets them 289, 00:10:47,003 --> 00:10:49.021 for success because they have 290 00:10:49,021 -->, 00:10:51.020, all the tools and resources, 291 00:10:51,020 --> 00:10:53.018 that they need to do a good job.

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292 00:10:53,018, --> 00:10:56.019 at reviewing whatever changes, 293 00:10:56,019, -->, 00:10:58.021 or amendments that will bring 294 00:10:58,021 --> 00:11:00.001, our founding documents,, our 295 00:11:00,001 --> 00:11:02.004 constitutional documents to 296 00:11:02,004 --> 00:11:03.023 make sure that it's serving 297 00:11:03,023 --> 00:11:06.010 everybody and effectively as 298 00:11:06,010 --> 00:11:10.029. For as the other details that 299 00:11:10,029 --> 00:11:11.014, we spoke about last sorry, 300 00:11:11,014, -->, 00:11:14.000 monday about whether it goes 301, 00:11:14,000, -->, 00:11:16.018 straight to the voters,.

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I'm not 302 00:11:16,018, -->, 00:11:18.013 sure about that process or 303 00:11:18,013 --> 00:11:21.016 detail yet. But I do appreciate 304 00:11:21,016, --> 00:11:22.003, the thoroughness and all the 305 00:11:22,003 --> 00:11:24.000 options being offered and 306 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:25.004 shared today.. So thank you,, 307, 00:11:25,004, -->, 00:11:26.004, frank and thank you. 308 00:11:26,004, --> 00:11:28.018 commissioners for spending the 309 00:11:28,018 --> 00:11:32.024 saturday morning with us, 310 00:11:32,024, --> 00:11:34.019 there. foster, followed by 311 00:11:34,019 --> 00:11:37.004 mafeking. hi.

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My name is 312 00:11:37,004 --> 00:11:39.008 sylvia foster and I represent 313 00:11:39,008 --> 00:11:40.008, the african-american community, 314 00:11:40,008 --> 00:11:42.010 service agency and similar to 315 00:11:42,010 --> 00:11:43.005. What was just said, I would 316 00:11:43,005 --> 00:11:45.027 support future charter view, 317 00:11:45,027, --> 00:11:47.008 commissions, every ten years as 318 00:11:47,008 --> 00:11:50.006. Our city constantly evolves, 319, 00:11:50,006, --> 00:11:51.008.

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It's important that the 320 00:11:51,008 --> 00:11:52.022 commission convenes and I 321 00:11:52,022 --> 00:11:53.009, especially like the idea of the 322 00:11:53,009 --> 00:11:55.001 commission, convenant prior to 323 00:11:55,001 --> 00:11:57.020, the census and for the 324 00:11:57,020 --> 00:11:58.023 commission to have more power. 325 00:11:58,023 --> 00:12:00.022. However, that looks like yeah. 326 00:12:00,022, --> 00:12:01.018. So that's all. I have to say. 327 00:12:01,018 --> 00:12:06.023. Thank you. Mafeking followed 328 00:12:06,023 --> 00:12:11.012 by tamlin. good morning, 329 00:12:11,012, -->, 00:12:13.016, everybody.

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matt king from 330 00:12:13,016 -->, 00:12:15.002, sacred heart community, service., 331, 00:12:15,002, --> 00:12:18.018. I do support having every 10 332 00:12:18,018 --> 00:12:21.016 year charter. Commission.- I want 333 00:12:21,016 --> 00:12:24.004 to second pretty much all of 334 00:12:24,004 --> 00:12:27.012, these comments., I'm a little 335 00:12:27,012 --> 00:12:30.018, uncertain about the power to 336 00:12:30,018 --> 00:12:31.025, put things on the ballot. 337 00:12:31,025 --> 00:12:32.019 there's a lot I like about it. 338 00:12:32,019 --> 00:12:36.019, but I think it requires more 339, 00:12:36,019, -->, 00:12:40.018 conversation and thinking about 340 00:12:40,018 --> 00:12:43.007.

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Well, will we just recreate 341 00:12:43,007 --> 00:12:45.009? The council dynamic where 342 00:12:45,009 --> 00:12:48.011 everyone will be so worried, 343 00:12:48,011 --> 00:12:49.024 about what are they going to 344 00:12:49,024 --> 00:12:50.002, put on the ballot that it'll 345 00:12:50,002 --> 00:12:53.025 just result in people, 346 00:12:53,025, --> 00:12:55.008, appointing kind of political 347, 00:12:55,008 --> 00:12:58.022 seconds proxy's to have a 348 00:12:58,022, -->, 00:12:59.012 council fight on the charter, 349 00:12:59,012 -->, 00:13:01.022, commission instead? and I don't 350 00:13:01,022 --> 00:13:03.021. Think we want that.

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So I'm not 351 00:13:03,021, --> 00:13:04.027 sure what we should do about 352 00:13:04,027 --> 00:13:05.028 that and I just think it 353 00:13:05,028 --> 00:13:07.002 requires more conversation and 354 00:13:07,002 --> 00:13:09.009 more conversation with more 355 00:13:09,009 --> 00:13:22.015 people. thanks, hamlyn tamlin. 356 00:13:22,015 --> 00:13:32.009 go ahead. ok,, I'm going to that 357 00:13:32,009 --> 00:13:34.014 was our final speaker for this 358 00:13:34,014 --> 00:13:38.011 um this item, so oh roman, dorson, 359, 00:13:38,011, --> 00:13:44.013 just put her hand up so roma, 360 00:13:44,013, --> 00:13:46.020. Thank you for letting me jump.

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361 00:13:46,020 --> 00:13:48.020 in late and I'm very grateful 362 00:13:48,020 --> 00:13:49.027 to the subcommittee for 363 00:13:49,027, --> 00:13:50.010, bringing forward this idea, 364 00:13:50,010 --> 00:13:52.010, because it seems rather absurd, 365 00:13:52,010 --> 00:13:55.015 to wait thirty five years and 366 00:13:55,015 --> 00:13:56.024.

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Of course the council can 367 00:13:56,024 --> 00:13:57.028 choose to put something on a 368 00:13:57,028 --> 00:14:00.011 ballot any tuesday, so we have 369 00:14:00,011 --> 00:14:02.018, seen many, many ballot measures, 370 00:14:02,018 --> 00:14:03.007 come forward., I'm just 371 00:14:03,007 --> 00:14:05.016 wondering if, rather than 372 00:14:05,016 --> 00:14:08.014 mandating every ten years the 373 00:14:08,014 --> 00:14:10.001 formation of a charter review 374 00:14:10,001 --> 00:14:12.017. If it wouldn't give the public 375 00:14:12,017 --> 00:14:13.001 more opportunity to engage if 376 00:14:13,001 --> 00:14:15.020.

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We just put something in the 377 00:14:15,020 --> 00:14:17.017 charter. That said, the formation 378 00:14:17,017 --> 00:14:19.021 of a charter review commission 379, 00:14:19,021 --> 00:14:20.013, should appear on the city. 380 00:14:20,013 --> 00:14:24.017 council agenda, periodically, it 381 00:14:24,017 --> 00:14:26.016 could be once a year.. It could 382 00:14:26,016 --> 00:14:28.026, be every five years or a 383 00:14:28,026 --> 00:14:30.028 preceding.. But that way I think 384 00:14:30,028 --> 00:14:31.004, that if it's on a council 385 00:14:31,004 --> 00:14:33.014 agenda,.

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If there are people out 386, 00:14:33,014, --> 00:14:34.024 there that really want the 387 00:14:34,024 --> 00:14:35.000 commission formed,, it will come 388, 00:14:35,000, -->, 00:14:38.011 forward.. It will come forward, 389, 00:14:38,011, --> 00:14:39.023 and it's a little bit less 390 00:14:39,023 --> 00:14:40.001 prescriptive., I'm always 391 00:14:40,001, -->, 00:14:42.005, hesitant of the city charter, 392, 00:14:42,005, -->, 00:14:44.004, being overly prescriptive and 393 00:14:44,004 --> 00:14:46.003 again,. Thank you very much, 394 00:14:46,003 --> 00:14:51.020, commissioner kelvinator 395 00:14:51,020 -->, 00:14:57.027, tamlin again., oh yeah.. Finally, 396 00:14:57,027, --> 00:14:59.012.

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I was able to unhook myself 397 00:14:59,012 --> 00:15:02.027 monomers tabloid fire with 398 00:15:02,027 --> 00:15:04.026 people foundations. Was it in 399, 00:15:04,026, --> 00:15:06.002 the past two months. We have 400 00:15:06,002, --> 00:15:10.026 contest out for public meeting 401 00:15:10,026 --> 00:15:12.025 equality committee members and 402 00:15:12,025 --> 00:15:15.022. The consensus is first of all 403 00:15:15,022 --> 00:15:18.008. We appreciate the commission 404 00:15:18,008 --> 00:15:21.015 recommendation of having the 405 00:15:21,015 --> 00:15:24.022 meeting, but in ten years or so 406 00:15:24,022 --> 00:15:26.006. So we are more relevant.

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407 00:15:26,006 -->, 00:15:30.000 secondly,. We, we are lot of 408 00:15:30,000, --> 00:15:33.008 people, most of agree with the 409 00:15:33,008 --> 00:15:36.027 previous speakers to keep the 410 00:15:36,027 --> 00:15:37.019 committee around the council at 411 00:15:37,019 --> 00:15:40.015, the meetings, as is, which is 412 00:15:40,015 --> 00:15:42.004 this. How is the council and 413 00:15:42,004 --> 00:15:45.019 manager, our arrangement, we 414, 00:15:45,019 --> 00:15:48.002, don't want a strong male and 415 00:15:48,002 --> 00:15:50.009 that, third and last, but at 416 00:15:50,009 -->. 00:15:52.019 least. We have a lot of people.

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417, 00:15:52,019, --> 00:15:54.014, opposed to the idea of moving 418 00:15:54,014 --> 00:15:57.000 the election date, because the 419 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00.028 recent moving the date of the 420 00:16:00,028 --> 00:16:01.025 election. This would make more 421 00:16:01,025 --> 00:16:03.008 people voting the same people, 422 00:16:03,008, --> 00:16:07.015 will vote and we will need to 423 00:16:07,015 --> 00:16:10.000 move action to try to get both 424 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12.000, both of us.. So that's, not the 425 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14.011 consensus will be.

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We want to 426 00:16:14,011 --> 00:16:15.023 report to you and thank you for 427 00:16:15,023 --> 00:16:20.018, your good work back to the 428 00:16:20,018. --≫. 00:16:22.028. Commission.- thank you. that 429 00:16:22,028 --> 00:16:24.012 was the final speaker just for 430 00:16:24,012 --> 00:16:27.028, the public record,. I am a the 431 00:16:27,028 --> 00:16:28.003 chair only votes in the case of 432 00:16:28,003, --> 00:16:31.013, a tie.. I assume that I most 433 00:16:31,013 --> 00:16:32.010 likely won't be voting on many 434 00:16:32,010 --> 00:16:34.006 issues and that's fine..

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I just 435 00:16:34,006, --> 00:16:36.028 would ask, and I wanted to make 436 00:16:36,028 --> 00:16:37.003 sure that I didn't influence. 437 00:16:37,003 --> 00:16:39.008 any of the discussion at the 438 00:16:39,008 --> 00:16:40.003 commission level, nor at the 439 00:16:40,003 --> 00:16:42.006 public level., but I would add, 440 00:16:42,006 --> 00:16:43.000 to the subcommittee since 441 00:16:43,000, -->, 00:16:45.004 you're taking stuff back.

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I 442 00:16:45,004 --> 00:16:46.017 would ask that you consider 443 00:16:46,017 --> 00:16:47.007, another idea in terms of the 444 00:16:47,007 --> 00:16:50.002 ten years because of the of the 445 00:16:50,002 --> 00:16:52.026 census. Being every ten years, 446 00:16:52,026, -->, 00:16:53.000 and redistricting being looked 447, 00:16:53,000 -->, 00:16:56.019 at.. My idea would be that we 448 00:16:56,019 --> 00:16:57.005, have a commission every eight 449 00:16:57,005 --> 00:17:01.000 years for a two year term, so 450 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03.026, that at the eighth year the 451 00:17:03,026 --> 00:17:04.025 commission is formed.

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They have 452 00:17:04,025 --> 00:17:06.018 a two year term, and so they 453 00:17:06,018 --> 00:17:08.015 would always be ahead of the 454 00:17:08,015 --> 00:17:10.028 census.. So if they wanted to 455 00:17:10,028 --> 00:17:11.013 change the amount of council 456, 00:17:11,013, --> 00:17:13.011 districts, they would do that 457 00:17:13,011 --> 00:17:15.001. Within their two year, frame. 458, 00:17:15,001, --> 00:17:17.029. They be able to study the issue, 459 00:17:17,029, -->, 00:17:18.027 and all issues at the end of 460, 00:17:18,027, --> 00:17:20.027 their term.

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At the end, at that 461 00:17:20,027, -->, 00:17:22.025 tenth year right before the 462 00:17:22,025 -->, 00:17:24.012 census,, the census committees, 463 00:17:24,012, --> 00:17:26.002- would then have the information 464 00:17:26,002 --> 00:17:28.013 that they need to be able to 465 00:17:28,013 --> 00:17:29.003 make the changes in the council 466 00:17:29,003, -->, 00:17:31.009 districts.. Otherwise I think 467 00:17:31,009 --> 00:17:32.008, there's always going to be this 468 00:17:32,008 --> 00:17:34.020 conflict of the redistricting 469 00:17:34,020 -->, 00:17:36.016 commissions being tied moving 470 00:17:36,016 --> 00:17:39.004 forward.

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As the census comes out, 471 00:17:39,004, --> 00:17:42.023, and then you have a charter, 472 00:17:42,023, -->, 00:17:43.013, commission, always being out of 473 00:17:43,013 --> 00:17:46.001 sync., my ideas.

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Eight years, 474 00:17:46,001 --> 00:17:48.009 every eight years for a two 475 00:17:48,009 --> 00:17:50.019 year term, first year, being a 476 00:17:50,019 --> 00:17:51.021 lot of the study of the issue: 477 00:17:51,021 --> 00:17:53.026, the community spent in the 478 00:17:53,026 --> 00:17:54.027 second year, really being the 479 00:17:54,027 --> 00:17:56.002 recommendations and and then 480 00:17:56,002 --> 00:17:58.003 being able to complete their 481 00:17:58,003 --> 00:18:01.020 report to the council and and 482 00:18:01,020 --> 00:18:03.021 before the council has to deal 483 00:18:03,021 --> 00:18:04.011 with redistricting at the 484 00:18:04,011 --> 00:18:06.014 census, so that just another 485 00:18:06,014 --> 00:18:08.007 idea for your census.

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After your 486 00:18:08,007 --> 00:18:10.025 subcommittee to look at as 487 00:18:10,025, --> 00:18:11.007 well. and I do I do want to 488. 00:18:11,007 --> 00:18:13.003 make sure that the subcommittee 489 00:18:13,003 --> 00:18:15.023 also is sensitive and the 490 00:18:15,023 -->. 00:18:16.006 public is sensitive to the 491 00:18:16,006 --> 00:18:18.000 legal opinion that we received 492 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21.023 on monday, which was that the 493 00:18:21,023 --> 00:18:23.010 members of the commission,.

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If 494 00:18:23,010 --> 00:18:25.009, it had authority to put 495 00:18:25,009 --> 00:18:27.004 something on the ballot, would 496 00:18:27,004 --> 00:18:29.011 be subject because they have 497 00:18:29,011 --> 00:18:30.027, some kind of a legislative 498, 00:18:30,027 --> 00:18:31.020 authority.. They would be 499 00:18:31,020, --> 00:18:33.007 different in terms of the 500 00:18:33,007 --> 00:18:35.014 qualifications. They would need 501, 00:18:35,014 --> 00:18:37.002 to meet in terms of conflict of 502 00:18:37,002 --> 00:18:39.003 interest..

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So I think the 503 00:18:39,003 --> 00:18:40.003 subcommittee should just be 504 00:18:40,003 --> 00:18:42.025 careful around knowing that if 505 00:18:42,025 --> 00:18:44.008 they do that the challenge 506 00:18:44,008 --> 00:18:46.017, putting commissioners on this 507 00:18:46,017 --> 00:18:47.014 commission is going to be 508 00:18:47,014 -->, 00:18:49.001 different.. They won't 509, 00:18:49,001, -->, 00:18:51.015, necessarily better or worse, but 510 00:18:51,015, --> 00:18:52.027 it'll be different because 511 00:18:52,027 --> 00:18:53.027, everybody will have to complete 512 00:18:53,027, --> 00:18:56.010, a form, seven hundred and all 513 00:18:56,010 --> 00:18:58.020.

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The conflicts of interest would 514, 00:18:58,020, --> 00:19:00.014 be in place and that would 515 00:19:00,014 --> 00:19:02.012 change, the dynamic of who 516 00:19:02,012 --> 00:19:04.019 serves on a commission like us., 517, 00:19:04,019, --> 00:19:05.013, so just to pieces that I 518 00:19:05,013 --> 00:19:07.009 thought is: are important for 519 00:19:07,009 --> 00:19:09.004, the subcommittee to to look at 520 00:19:09,004, --> 00:19:11.025 as well.. Our second speaker, 521, 00:19:11,025, --> 00:19:12.007 this morning with the second 522 00:19:12,007 --> 00:19:15.014 set of recommendations is 523. 00:19:15,014, --> 00:19:16.008, commissioner marshman mr.

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524 00:19:16,008 --> 00:19:20.005 marshman,. Thank you and and 525 00:19:20,005 --> 00:19:22.027. Thank you all for for coming. I 526 00:19:22,027 --> 00:19:24.021 could. Could I ask a clerk or 527 00:19:24,021 --> 00:19:26.017, how many members of the public 528 00:19:26,017 --> 00:19:28.000 we have here. It does not show 529, 00:19:28,000, --> 00:19:32.028 for us twenty to twenty two. 530 00:19:32,028 --> 00:19:34.026 great panel.. Thank you! All. 531, 00:19:34,026, --> 00:19:35.002, commissioner marshman. This is 532 00:19:35,002 -->, 00:19:37.001 lawrence..

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Would you like me to 533 00:19:37,001 --> 00:19:40.022 to share the yes please., the 534 00:19:40,022 --> 00:19:42.001, updated memo. thank you.. We had 535 00:19:42,001 --> 00:19:46.027. We had a an outdated memo on 536 00:19:46,027 --> 00:19:47.027, the with some mistakes in it, 537 00:19:47,027, -->, 00:19:50.013, originally on the agenda, but 538 00:19:50,013 --> 00:19:52.015 caught it and we've got the 539 00:19:52,015 --> 00:19:56.022 right one now.! Thank you!

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So 540 00:19:56,022 --> 00:19:59.012, my topic has has been touched: 541, 00:19:59,012, -->, 00:20:05.005 on by by fred commissioner for 542 00:20:05,005 --> 00:20:09.005 about redistricting and 543 00:20:09,005 --> 00:20:12.019, whether we should consider 544, 00:20:12,019, -->, 00:20:16.026, adding council districts and 545 00:20:16,026 --> 00:20:19.015, how many and when so so, just 546 00:20:19,015, --> 00:20:22.012. Briefly: recap: you're, probably 547 00:20:22,012 --> 00:20:24.012, all aware of this, but nineteen 548 00:20:24,012 --> 00:20:28.028.

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Seventy eight initiative, 549 00:20:28,028 --> 00:20:30.026, changed the city from electing 550 00:20:30,026 --> 00:20:32.010, everyone at large to doing 551, 00:20:32,010 -->, 00:20:35.006 district elections and it 552 00:20:35,006 --> 00:20:38.001 was a huge improvement as far 553 00:20:38,001 --> 00:20:41.023. As representing communities, 554 00:20:41,023 --> 00:20:45.001 that had long been ignored., 555, 00:20:45,001, --> 00:20:48.000, there were 10 council districts, 556, 00:20:48,000, --> 00:20:50.004 created and that's still what 557 00:20:50,004 --> 00:20:53.022 we've been dealing with: thirty 558 00:20:53,022 --> 00:20:56.013 years later..

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So we think it's 559 00:20:56,013 --> 00:21:00.015 time to consider looking at 560, 00:21:00,015 --> 00:21:03.008 expanding that, although I'm not 561, 00:21:03,008 --> 00:21:05.028 certain. It's a panacea for the 562 00:21:05,028 --> 00:21:07.000 problems that that people feel 563 00:21:07,000, --> 00:21:10.024. They have with representation. 564 00:21:10,024 --> 00:21:10.000. I think there are a lot of 565 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13.015 questions.. So this is the least 566 00:21:13,015 --> 00:21:15.017 specific recommendation. You're 567 00:21:15,017 --> 00:21:16.003, going to hear this morning. 568 00:21:16,003 --> 00:21:18.021. Everybody else kind knows: this. 569, 00:21:18,021, --> 00:21:20.008.

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We got this idea. Late, came to 570 00:21:20,008 --> 00:21:23.018 us late and we feel it needs a 571 00:21:23,018 --> 00:21:27.000 lot more work.. So when when 572 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30.003, the districts were created, the 573 00:21:30,003 --> 00:21:32.017 city was around six hundred 574 00:21:32,017 --> 00:21:33.012 thousand over six hundred 575 00:21:33,012 --> 00:21:35.008 thousand people. So each of the 576 00:21:35,008 --> 00:21:38.002 ten districts had sixty 577 00:21:38,002 -->, 00:21:42.014 thousand roughly residents., now 578 00:21:42,014 --> 00:21:43.024.

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The city is over a million 579 00:21:43,024 --> 00:21:45.014 people, so we have more than one 580 00:21:45,014 --> 00:21:50.018 hundred thousand people in each 581, 00:21:50,018 --> 00:21:53.001, council district, which is a 582 00:21:53,001 --> 00:21:56.012 lot., however, of the ten we are 583 00:21:56,012, --> 00:22:00.006, the 10th largest city, still 584 00:22:00,006 --> 00:22:03.017 in the country and of the 10 585 00:22:03,017 -->, 00:22:06.024 largest.

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Six of them have eleven 586 00:22:06,024, -->, 00:22:10.027 or fewer council members., so 587, 00:22:10,027, -->, 00:22:12.010 and and one of the ones that 588 00:22:12,010 --> 00:22:16.023 has a lot of them. Chicago we 589 00:22:16,023 --> 00:22:18.010 have been told, is a very 590 00:22:18,010 --> 00:22:21.028 different and it has fifty it 591 00:22:21,028 --> 00:22:22.018 has more people than we do, but 592 00:22:22,018, --> 00:22:24.007.

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It has fifty council members, 593 00:22:24,007 --> 00:22:26.024, and you know not that many for 594 00:22:26,024, --> 00:22:29.020 district, but we're told 595, 00:22:29,020 --> 00:22:31.024, that's a very political system, 596 00:22:31,024, --> 00:22:34.018 and probably does not lead to 597 00:22:34,018 --> 00:22:37.006, more attention on 598 00:22:37,006, -->, 00:22:39.022 constituent., it's just a 599 00:22:39,022 --> 00:22:40.011, different dynamic in the 600 00:22:40,011 --> 00:22:42.023 council, and that's something we 601 00:22:42,023 --> 00:22:43.019 have to watch or we want to 602 00:22:43,019 --> 00:22:46.007. Look at seattle, which has 603 00:22:46,007 --> 00:22:49.009.

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Twenty five council members is 604, 00:22:49,009, --> 00:22:51.010 a little smaller than san jose 605, 00:22:51,010, -->, 00:22:54.027, but kind of the same scale: city, 606, 00:22:54,027, -->, 00:22:57.023 and- and I don't know yet- 607 00:22:57,023 --> 00:22:59.023, because we have not.

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We have not 608 00:22:59,023 --> 00:23:01.026 identified good sources to give 609 00:23:01,026 --> 00:23:03.022 us honest opinions in seattle, 610 00:23:03,022, --> 00:23:06.018, but it's I don't know whether 611 00:23:06,018 --> 00:23:08.000, that's a change that was made 612, 00:23:08,000, -->, 00:23:10.004, or whether it's always had that 613 00:23:10,004 --> 00:23:12.009 number of districts- and I don't 614 00:23:12,009 --> 00:23:14.026, know what the dynamic is on the 615 00:23:14,026 --> 00:23:17.018. City. Council.- so lots of 616 00:23:17,018, --> 00:23:19.014 study here and things like 617 00:23:19,014, -->, 00:23:21.019 cost..

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I know some people feel 618 00:23:21,019 --> 00:23:23.012 that cost shouldn't matter. If 619 00:23:23,012 --> 00:23:27.008, we want to do this but cost 620, 00:23:27,008, --> 00:23:31.002, always matters not in not in 621 00:23:31,002 -->, 00:23:33.015, questions of ethical right or 622 00:23:33,015 --> 00:23:34.022, wrong. no,, but this is a 623 00:23:34,022 --> 00:23:36.019 strategic question.. This is 624 00:23:36,019, --> 00:23:38.002, whether this is going to give 625 00:23:38,002 --> 00:23:40.001 disadvantaged communities in 626, 00:23:40,001, -->, 00:23:42.022, particular better 627, 00:23:42,022, -->, 00:23:43.001 representation..

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We all know 628 00:23:43,001, --> 00:23:46.012, that even now some districts do 629 00:23:46,012, --> 00:23:47.014 much better or some council 630 00:23:47,014 --> 00:23:49.018 members do much better at 631, 00:23:49,018, --> 00:23:51.010 outreach and engagement and 632 00:23:51,010 --> 00:23:54.000 keeping people involved in 633 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:58.008 decision making than others do. 634, 00:23:58,008, --> 00:23:59.000 and that doesn't always 635 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01.009 correspond to income level in 636, 00:24:01,009, -->, 00:24:02.020, the district or anything else. 637 00:24:02,020, --> 00:24:04.002.

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It's just it depends on the 638 00:24:04,002 --> 00:24:06.002 person and that would still be 639 00:24:06,002 --> 00:24:11.026 the case in more districts., so 640 00:24:11,026, --> 00:24:12.019.

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Some of the questions will 641 00:24:12,019 --> 00:24:17.023 want to be looking at is 642 00:24:17,023 --> 00:24:19.000, whether there is any 643 00:24:19,000, -->, 00:24:22.025, identifiable correlation 644, 00:24:22,025, --> 00:24:23.016 between effective 645, 00:24:23,016, -->, 00:24:25.026 representation or good city 646, 00:24:25,026, -->, 00:24:27.020 government, with with smaller 647 00:24:27,020 --> 00:24:29.023 districts with more council 648, 00:24:29,023, -->, 00:24:34.017 members and looking at I 649 00:24:34,017 --> 00:24:36.021 mean some of some of the cities.

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650 00:24:36,021 --> 00:24:38.028 that have much smaller 651 00:24:38,028 --> 00:24:40.008 districts are smaller cities, a 652 00:24:40,008 --> 00:24:43.010 small city like santa clara, has 653 00:24:43,010 --> 00:24:46.024 has seven council members and 654 00:24:46,024 --> 00:24:47.027 very small districts compared 655 00:24:47,027, --> 00:24:49.027 to san jose. It's not much 656 00:24:49,027 --> 00:24:51.021, bigger than a one council, 657 00:24:51,021 --> 00:24:53.028 district in san jose, but those 658 00:24:53,028 --> 00:24:55.004 are those are not full time. 659 00:24:55,004, -->, 00:24:58.014, council members..

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They they 660, 00:24:58,014 --> 00:25:01.005 receive stipends, but nearly all 661 00:25:01,005, --> 00:25:04.007 of them have full time jobs and 662 00:25:04,007, -->, 00:25:08.007 and the the council's job is is 663 00:25:08,007 --> 00:25:10.010 designed for someone who is not 664, 00:25:10,010 -->, 00:25:11.019, counting on it for their 665 00:25:11,019 -->, 00:25:12.024 living.. So that's something 666 00:25:12,024 --> 00:25:13.002 else. We have to take into 667 00:25:13,002 --> 00:25:19.023 consideration or else was I 668, 00:25:19,023, --> 00:25:20.020, going to say well, maybe I'll 669, 00:25:20,020, --> 00:25:22.023 just turn it over to you.

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670 00:25:22,023, --> 00:25:24.013. Either this huge question or 671 00:25:24,013 --> 00:25:28.015, still on how many districts 672 00:25:28,015 --> 00:25:30.020, whether we should do it all and 673 00:25:30,020, -->, 00:25:32.014 and other factors and I'd just 674 00:25:32,014 --> 00:25:35.028 like to hear your opinions on 675 00:25:35,028, --> 00:25:36.002, whether we should spend time 676, 00:25:36,002, --> 00:25:40.015 pursuing this, and if we do 677 00:25:40,015 --> 00:25:41.027, one of the things we have to 678 00:25:41,027 --> 00:25:42.025.

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Consider that I neglected to 679 00:25:42,025 --> 00:25:45.008 mention was whether to ask that 680 00:25:45,008 --> 00:25:49.020 this be done mid-term before 681 00:25:49,020, --> 00:25:51.024, the next census.. It's too late, 682 00:25:51,024, --> 00:25:54.026. Now to for voters to enact this 683 00:25:54,026 -->, 00:25:58.003 change by by next year's 684 00:25:58,003 -->, 00:26:01.010 elections.. That's just not 685 00:26:01,010 -->, 00:26:02.009 possible., the redistricting 686 00:26:02,009 --> 00:26:04.027 commission, which, by the way you 687 00:26:04,027 --> 00:26:05.011, should pop in on.

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If you can 688 00:26:05,011 --> 00:26:10.008, it's very interesting there on 689, 00:26:10,008, --> 00:26:13.021 is is hard at work now and it's 690 00:26:13,021 --> 00:26:15.000 going to be difficult,. They say: 691 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:19.009 to to keep roughly similar 692 00:26:19,009 --> 00:26:21.013 boundaries to what we've had, 693 00:26:21,013 --> 00:26:23.022, you know, pretty much over time.

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694, 00:26:23,022, -->, 00:26:26.019 and, and so big changes may be 695 00:26:26,019 --> 00:26:28.020 ahead, and that may be a good or 696 00:26:28,020 --> 00:26:30.012 bad thing., we'll want to talk 697 00:26:30,012, --> 00:26:32.006 to them about whether they 698 00:26:32,006, --> 00:26:35.011, think adding. Maybe two council 699 00:26:35,011 --> 00:26:38.002 districts would improve the the 700 00:26:38,002 --> 00:26:41.002 ability to group communities of 701 00:26:41,002 --> 00:26:44.002 interest. ok, comments, 702 00:26:44,002, -->, 00:26:46.012 please.

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thank you, commissioner 703 00:26:46,012 --> 00:26:47.012 marshman will turn over the 704 00:26:47,012 --> 00:26:49.020 public on this set of questions. 705 00:26:49,020, --> 00:26:50.027 and the recommendations that 706 00:26:50,027 --> 00:26:57.018 are in the memo. Share. ok, can 707 00:26:57,018 --> 00:27:00.010. You hear me? yes,, ok,, good., 708, 00:27:00,010, --> 00:27:03.015. I think as far as redistricting 709 00:27:03,015 --> 00:27:05.022. Just in my opinion. I think that 710 00:27:05,022 --> 00:27:06.029 it should. I don't think it's 711 00:27:06,029 --> 00:27:07.023, something we should go forward: 712 00:27:07,023, --> 00:27:09.025 with right now..

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I think where 713 00:27:09,025 --> 00:27:10.014 we're struggling to come out of 714 00:27:10,014 --> 00:27:13.012 the pandemic, and we just have a 715 00:27:13,012 --> 00:27:14.001 lot of issues that we're 716 00:27:14,001 --> 00:27:16.006 dealing with right, now., we've 717, 00:27:16,006, --> 00:27:19.008 got this sb nine sb ten going 718 00:27:19,008 --> 00:27:21.010, which may some housing. we 719, 00:27:21,010 --> 00:27:22.001, don't know what that's going to 720 00:27:22,001 --> 00:27:24.016 do as far as the population, 721, 00:27:24,016, -->, 00:27:25.008 shift and stuff..

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I think we 722 00:27:25,008 --> 00:27:27.019 need to settle in for let 723 00:27:27,019 --> 00:27:28.008 things settle in for a while 724 00:27:28,008, --> 00:27:31.029. Without so many recent changes, 725 00:27:31,029 --> 00:27:32.016, especially to the zoning stuff, 726 00:27:32,016 --> 00:27:37.020, and see how things map out and 727 00:27:37,020 --> 00:27:39.010 as well as I think, if there are 728 00:27:39,010, -->, 00:27:42.008, equity or or other issues that 729 00:27:42,008 --> 00:27:43.013 people are worried, their 730 00:27:43,013 -->, 00:27:44.003 representation.

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I think we need 731 00:27:44,003 --> 00:27:46.006 to really look at the root 732 00:27:46,006 --> 00:27:48.021 causes and see why we haven't 733 00:27:48,021 --> 00:27:49.025 been able to address those as a 734, 00:27:49,025 --> 00:27:51.009 city, to begin with. Instead just 735, 00:27:51,009, --> 00:27:53.014, saying well more council, 736, 00:27:53,014, --> 00:27:54.025 districts will fix it because a 737 00:27:54,025 --> 00:27:55.018 lot of time. Just a government 738 00:27:55,018 --> 00:27:57.015 shift like never addressing the 739 00:27:57,015 --> 00:27:59.027 real problem.

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I think we need to 740 00:27:59,027 --> 00:28:00.011 spend time with what are these 741 00:28:00,011 --> 00:28:02.018 issues,? What's going on? how 742 00:28:02,018 --> 00:28:03.014? Can we work as a community 743 00:28:03,014, --> 00:28:06.015 together, and why they're not 744 00:28:06,015 --> 00:28:07.015 things aren't being addressed: 745 00:28:07,015, --> 00:28:08.022, instead of saying, let's just 746 00:28:08,022 --> 00:28:10.000 shift government again,, I think 747 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12.016, that's just a big ol catch all 748 00:28:12,016 --> 00:28:13.006, to give some hope.

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Instead of 749 00:28:13,006 --> 00:28:15.015, looking at what's really going 750 00:28:15,015 --> 00:28:16.016 on and coming up with some 751 00:28:16,016 --> 00:28:18.008 solutions anyway., so I don't 752 00:28:18,008, --> 00:28:19.023, think I don't think 753 00:28:19,023 --> 00:28:20.017 redistricting, especially at 754 00:28:20,017 --> 00:28:22.007 this time or is really the 755 00:28:22,007 --> 00:28:34.024 answer.

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thank you, roma dorson,, 756 00:28:34,024 --> 00:28:35.006 thank you., and I want to thank 757 00:28:35,006 --> 00:28:37.011, the commissioner marshman for 758 00:28:37,011, --> 00:28:39.020, bringing this important issue: 759 00:28:39,020 --> 00:28:40.020 forward and I'm going to speak 760 00:28:40,020 --> 00:28:41.025.

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As someone that's been a 761 00:28:41,025, --> 00:28:43.014 council aide, frequently all the 762 00:28:43,014 --> 00:28:45.025 way going back to the late 763 00:28:45,025 --> 00:28:47.020 1980s, all the way to mayor 764, 00:28:47,020, -->, 00:28:49.001, lakatos first term as a 765 00:28:49,001 --> 00:28:52.016, council member., and I will tell 766 00:28:52,016 --> 00:28:53.025 you that there is a vast 767, 00:28:53,025 --> 00:28:54.027, difference in workload among 768, 00:28:54,027, -->, 00:28:56.019 districts and that frequently 769 00:28:56,019 --> 00:28:59.007 relates to those districts that 770 00:28:59,007 --> 00:29:02.004 have higher rates of poverty, 771, 00:29:02,004, --> 00:29:05.027.

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Also, sometimes certain issues, 772 00:29:05,027 --> 00:29:06.008- can simply blow up the council, 773 00:29:06,008 --> 00:29:09.007 office, and when I hear people 774 00:29:09,007, --> 00:29:11.001 say my city doesn't listen to 775 00:29:11,001 -->, 00:29:13.005 me,. I often wonder oh well, 776 00:29:13,005, --> 00:29:14.011, that's somebody that didn't get 777, 00:29:14,011 --> 00:29:16.000 a call returned right away from 778 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18.021, a council office., and if you 779, 00:29:18,021 --> 00:29:19.009, look at how small the staffs 780 00:29:19,009 --> 00:29:22.023 are,.

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It is extremely difficult, 781, 00:29:22,023 --> 00:29:24.021 to stay on top of everything, 782 00:29:24,021 --> 00:29:27.007 and get a timely response back 783, 00:29:27,007, --> 00:29:29.023, and maybe it's increasing the 784 00:29:29,023 --> 00:29:30.006 size of the districts.. Maybe it 785 00:29:30,006 --> 00:29:32.028 isn't..

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Maybe it's increasing 786 00:29:32,028 --> 00:29:33.017 the budget., but I do believe 787 00:29:33,017, --> 00:29:35.021, that this is a serious equity, 788 00:29:35,021 --> 00:29:37.004 issue and ought to be framed in 789, 00:29:37,004, -->, 00:29:39.010 terms of equity and brought 790 00:29:39,010 --> 00:29:42.025 forward to city council and you 791, 00:29:42,025 --> 00:29:43.009 have a wonderful opportunity to 792 00:29:43,009, -->, 00:29:45.006 sort of bifurcate. What you're 793 00:29:45,006 --> 00:29:47.027 doing.. You have specific 794, 00:29:47,027, -->, 00:29:48.014 recommendations.

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You can make 795 00:29:48,014 --> 00:29:51.002 and also to be changed in the 796 00:29:51,002 --> 00:29:54.015 charter immediately and you can 797 00:29:54,015 --> 00:29:55.023 bring forward a strong set of 798 00:29:55,023 --> 00:29:56.025 recommendations of what you 799 00:29:56,025 --> 00:29:57.012, want to see happen in the 800 00:29:57,012 --> 00:30:00.020 future, and I know you're 801, 00:30:00,020, --> 00:30:01.025 thinking that way, and I very 802 00:30:01,025 --> 00:30:02.016 much appreciate that 803 00:30:02,016 --> 00:30:04.001 discussion.. This would be one 804, 00:30:04,001 --> 00:30:06.018 of those items.

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I would bring 805 00:30:06,018 --> 00:30:07.012 forward as a package as a 806, 00:30:07,012, -->, 00:30:09.012 council. You must look at this 807 00:30:09,012 --> 00:30:13.027 at a later date. thank you, 808 00:30:13,027 --> 00:30:18.026 matt king. hi again. matt, king 809, 00:30:18,026, -->, 00:30:19.026 of sacred heart community 810, 00:30:19,026, -->, 00:30:22.028 service.. I am aligned with a 811 00:30:22,028 --> 00:30:23.009 lot of what commissioner 812 00:30:23,009 --> 00:30:26.029 marshman shared and that's the 813 00:30:26,029 --> 00:30:28.006 question of whether or not our 814 00:30:28,006 --> 00:30:30.005 city needs to look at that..

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I 815 00:30:30,005, --> 00:30:32.000. Think it's just basic good 816 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35.024 government to take this issue: 817 00:30:35,024 --> 00:30:36.000 very seriously, and do a lot of 818 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39.005 work and figure out whether we 819 00:30:39,005 --> 00:30:40.010 should have new districts or 820 00:30:40,010 --> 00:30:42.018. What and what that would entail. 821 00:30:42,018, --> 00:30:43.002 and what we can accomplish by 822, 00:30:43,002 --> 00:30:45.003 doing it and it would be 823 00:30:45,003, --> 00:30:47.000 irresponsible to not look at it.

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824 00:30:47,000, --> 00:30:50.004, so definite strong support for 825 00:30:50,004 --> 00:30:52.024 for going forward with this. 826 00:30:52,024 --> 00:30:59.002 thanks ilina again 827 00:30:59,002 -->, 00:31:02.008 commissioners.. I also agree 828 00:31:02,008, --> 00:31:03.013 that this proposal should go 829, 00:31:03,013, --> 00:31:04.015 forward and that we should take 830, 00:31:04,015 --> 00:31:06.026, a serious look at it as well as 831 00:31:06,026, --> 00:31:07.026.

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All of the logistics that I 832 00:31:07,026 --> 00:31:08.012 know that still needs to be 833, 00:31:08,012, -->, 00:31:11.007 ironed out and I kind of want 834 00:31:11,007 --> 00:31:13.014 equate this to something that I 835 00:31:13,014 --> 00:31:14.016 shared in previous public 836, 00:31:14,016. --≫ 00:31:16.018 comments., if we think about 837 00:31:16,018 --> 00:31:18.020 this. With an analogy of teacher 838, 00:31:18,020, -->, 00:31:20.010 and students,, you know, the 839 00:31:20,010 -->, 00:31:22.007, larger, a classroom group, the 840 00:31:22,007 -->, 00:31:24.006 harder.

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It is for the teacher to 841 00:31:24,006 --> 00:31:25.021, really connect with each 842 00:31:25,021 --> 00:31:26.011 student and provide the support. 843 00:31:26,011 --> 00:31:30.017 that they need. and, as I think, 844 00:31:30,017, --> 00:31:32.027 ramadhan mentioned that not all 845 00:31:32,027 --> 00:31:33.027 the workload is equal in each 846, 00:31:33,027 -->, 00:31:35.018 district.. What that means is 847, 00:31:35,018, --> 00:31:37.000.

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Maybe those folks need more 848, 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39.006 resources, because that's what 849 00:31:39,006 --> 00:31:41.023 equity is is about vesting and 850 00:31:41,023 --> 00:31:42.028, reallocating the resources, 851 00:31:42,028 --> 00:31:45.002, where it's most needed and in 852 00:31:45,002 --> 00:31:49.014 the same way that it's been 853, 00:31:49,014 --> 00:31:50.002 shown statistically a smaller 854 00:31:50,002 --> 00:31:52.018 class sizes are better for 855 00:31:52,018, -->, 00:31:53.026 students..

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I think smaller 856 00:31:53,026 --> 00:31:54.024 council districts and more 857 00:31:54,024 --> 00:31:56.021 district representation, but 858 00:31:56,021 --> 00:31:58.021 only increase the relationship, 859 00:31:58,021 --> 00:32:00.001 and represent one of the 860 00:32:00,001 --> 00:32:03.021, diversity of our community. and 861 00:32:03,021 --> 00:32:05.015 yes,. It is difficult and you 862 00:32:05,015 -->, 00:32:07.009 know,.

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The staff of the city is 863 00:32:07,009, -->, 00:32:09.020, very small for the size of our 864 00:32:09,020 --> 00:32:11.025 city, but that has to do with 865 00:32:11,025 --> 00:32:13.006 taxing and how we zone our 866 00:32:13,006, -->, 00:32:15.028 property and that's a 867 00:32:15,028 --> 00:32:17.028 completely different subject. 868 00:32:17,028 --> 00:32:20.022, but the people that have been 869, 00:32:20,022, --> 00:32:22.018 part of this watching this 870 00:32:22,018 -->, 00:32:24.023, commission and participating, 871 00:32:24,023, --> 00:32:25.005.

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They have shown up and they 872 00:32:25,005 --> 00:32:27.013 have spoken in favor of 873 00:32:27,013, --> 00:32:28.024, increasing district 874, 00:32:28,024, -->, 00:32:30.008 representation., and so thank 875 00:32:30,008 --> 00:32:32.012 you,, commissioner marshman for 876 00:32:32,012, --> 00:32:34.010. Putting this together..

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I think 877 00:32:34,010 --> 00:32:36.016 that we should put a lot of 878 00:32:36,016 --> 00:32:39.012 attention into how we address 879, 00:32:39,012, -->, 00:32:41.005, accountability and equity, and I 880 00:32:41,005 --> 00:32:43.022 think this is one of the key 881 00:32:43,022 --> 00:32:45.008 proposals that will really help 882 00:32:45,008, --> 00:32:47.023 us achieve that and move in the 883 00:32:47,023 -->, 00:32:48.029, right direction., and so thank 884 00:32:48,029 --> 00:32:50.024 you for that. and again,. I 885 00:32:50,024 --> 00:32:52.004, really hope that the commission 886 00:32:52,004 --> 00:32:54.010, considers moving this proposal.

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887 00:32:54,010 --> 00:33:03.006 forward. thank you, mr. I 888 00:33:03,006 --> 00:33:05.021. This is read by nasser wingrove 889 00:33:05,021, -->, 00:33:07.025 health center..

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I think we have 890 00:33:07,025 --> 00:33:08.028 to be really careful about 891, 00:33:08,028, --> 00:33:09.007 thinking about increasing the 892 00:33:09,007 --> 00:33:11.005 size of the council.- one of the 893 00:33:11,005 --> 00:33:12.016 things that we found in our 894 00:33:12,016 --> 00:33:13.016 research on the council manager, 895 00:33:13,016 --> 00:33:15.029 form is that the key to that 896, 00:33:15,029 --> 00:33:16.010 working is being able to 897 00:33:16,010 --> 00:33:19.027, develop consensus and as 898 00:33:19,027 --> 00:33:20.002 everybody knows, the larger the 899 00:33:20,002 --> 00:33:22.021 team is,, the harder it is to 900 00:33:22,021 --> 00:33:24.013, develop consensus.

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and so 901 00:33:24,013 --> 00:33:26.016 getting 11 people on board with 902 00:33:26,016 --> 00:33:27.027. Something currently is pretty 903 00:33:27,027, -->, 00:33:29.012 tough., making it 12 or 14 makes 904 00:33:29,012 --> 00:33:31.026 it even harder.. So I think 905 00:33:31,026 --> 00:33:32.021, actually that increasing 906 00:33:32,021 --> 00:33:34.029 council size is 907, 00:33:34,029, -->, 00:33:35.000 counterproductive.

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Although it 908 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38.016 increases representation, that 909 00:33:38,016 --> 00:33:39.027 representation gets watered out 910 00:33:39,027 --> 00:33:40.010 when it comes to decisions on 911, 00:33:40,010, -->, 00:33:43.018, the on the full council., and so 912 00:33:43,018 --> 00:33:45.006. We would advocate for keeping 913 00:33:45,006 --> 00:33:48.001 the council to see council of 914 00:33:48,001, --> 00:33:54.029, ten plus plus a voting mayor, 915, 00:33:54,029, -->, 00:33:59.011, tamlin or just a time and again 916 00:33:59,011 --> 00:34:01.001. Thank you very much..

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I 917 00:34:01,001 --> 00:34:03.025 appreciate the mission of 918 00:34:03,025 --> 00:34:06.018 barzman, bringing up the year up: 919 00:34:06,018 -->, 00:34:09.025 representation from the 920 00:34:09,025 --> 00:34:12.012, consensus of the community. I 921 00:34:12,012 --> 00:34:14.016 put the people believe there is 922 00:34:14,016 --> 00:34:17.022 a much bigger issue which is 923, 00:34:17,022, -->, 00:34:20.016, more urgent,, more relevant and 924 00:34:20,016 --> 00:34:23.018, more important to the city and 925 00:34:23,018 -->. 00:34:25.013. To this commission.- it is the 926 00:34:25,013 --> 00:34:28.020, voter turnout.

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People mentioned 927 00:34:28,020, --> 00:34:30.019 before on this side in the 928 00:34:30,019 --> 00:34:33.000, poorer district seven,, six,, 929, 00:34:33,000, -->, 00:34:37.000, five and so on.. The voter 930 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39.029 turnout rate is extreme 931, 00:34:39,029, -->, 00:34:41.001 painfully slow over the past 932 00:34:41,001 --> 00:34:44.025 two years or so. We have some 933 00:34:44,025 --> 00:34:46.029 effort to address the issue, but 934 00:34:46,029 --> 00:34:49.020. Now all are now on.. We think 935 00:34:49,020 --> 00:34:51.001. This is more urgent than 936 00:34:51,001 --> 00:34:54.002 anything else..

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So we urge this 937 00:34:54,002 --> 00:34:58.010 commission to pay attention to 938 00:34:58,010 --> 00:35:00.029 noted this issue and I request 939 00:35:00,029 --> 00:35:01.000 to put this issue onto the 940 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04.014 agenda of the commission from 941 00:35:04,014 --> 00:35:05.000 now on, because I think it's 942 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08.007 more important than anything 943 00:35:08,007 --> 00:35:10.020, including the proposal of 944 00:35:10,020 --> 00:35:12.019, changing the year to increase 945, 00:35:12,019 --> 00:35:14.003 to voting., why we have to have 946, 00:35:14,003, -->, 00:35:17.003, the same low voter turnout., the 947 00:35:17,003 -->.

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00:35:19.005 next issue would be try to be 948: 00:35:19,005, -->, 00:35:21.021 brief., it's a digital divide. 949 00:35:21,021 --> 00:35:23.028, poor people are kept behind for 950 00:35:23,028 --> 00:35:24.021 the past two months.. We have a 951 00:35:24,021, --> 00:35:28.009, very tight time in terms of is 952 00:35:28,009, --> 00:35:32.019 so to participate.. So those are 953 00:35:32,019, --> 00:35:33.011 the two issues. I would like the 954 00:35:33,011 --> 00:35:35.025 commission to give 955 00:35:35,025 --> 00:35:36.027 consideration.. Thank you very 956, 00:35:36,027 --> 00:35:41.001. Much to the commission.- 957 00:35:41,001 --> 00:35:43.011. Thank you.

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Members of the public 958 00:35:43,011 --> 00:35:44.029 for your great feedback. Will 959 00:35:44,029 --> 00:35:45.010 now go to our third set of 960 00:35:45,010 --> 00:35:47.024 recommendations from 961 00:35:47,024 --> 00:35:50.024. Commissioner johnson.. Thank you. 962 00:35:50,024 --> 00:35:52.023, chair forever., I'm going to 963 00:35:52,023 --> 00:35:57.020 share my screen right now.. How 964 00:35:57,020 --> 00:36:00.001? Is everyone able to see 965, 00:36:00,001, -->, 00:36:04.005, this?, right. ok,? Thank you all 966 00:36:04,005 --> 00:36:07.002 for joining us. This morning., so 967 00:36:07,002, --> 00:36:09.022.

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My memo was about expanding 968 00:36:09,022 --> 00:36:10.021 mayoral powers. we've been 969 00:36:10,021 --> 00:36:12.014, discussing whether we should 970 00:36:12,014 --> 00:36:14.015, move our form of governance, 971 00:36:14,015, -->, 00:36:16.009 system, a lot. The past several 972 00:36:16,009 --> 00:36:19.006 months, we've gone through study, 973 00:36:19,006 --> 00:36:22.009 sessions and talked to past 974 00:36:22,009 --> 00:36:25.022 mayors and city managers and 975 00:36:25,022 --> 00:36:26.029. I've had a lot of discussions.

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976 00:36:26,029 --> 00:36:27.024 within my subcommittee group, 977, 00:36:27,024, --> 00:36:30.011 about it as well, and our 978 00:36:30,011 --> 00:36:33.016 recommendation is to keep our 979 00:36:33,016 --> 00:36:37.001 council format same oh sorry, it 980, 00:36:37,001, --> 00:36:39.020, disappeared, really quickly.. Let 981 00:36:39,020 --> 00:36:51.013 me try to pull it back: up. ok,, 982, 00:36:51,013, --> 00:36:53.012.

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So when we look at what our 983 00:36:53,012 --> 00:36:55.000 current structure looks like 984, 00:36:55,000, --> 00:36:57.000 right now we have a council 985, 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:01.019 manager structure, but ours is 986, 00:37:01,019, -->, 00:37:02.026, more of a hybrid. So the mayor, 987 00:37:02,026, --> 00:37:04.005, already is given a little more 988 00:37:04,005 --> 00:37:08.006 power than they would be under 989 00:37:08,006 --> 00:37:10.002, a typical traditional council, 990 00:37:10,002 --> 00:37:13.028 manager..

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So, as you can see, 991 00:37:13,028, -->, 00:37:16.007 here,, the mayor is able to 992 00:37:16,007 --> 00:37:19.005, nominate certain positions, 993 00:37:19,005 --> 00:37:25.021 already, and having technical 994 00:37:25,021 --> 00:37:28.006 issues and they're also able to 995 00:37:28,006 --> 00:37:30.029 set up what their budget 996 00:37:30,029 --> 00:37:32.004 message is as a direction for 997 00:37:32,004 --> 00:37:35.005 their term, which doesn't 998 00:37:35,005 --> 00:37:37.013, usually happen under a 999 00:37:37,013 --> 00:37:38.008, traditional council manager, 1000 00:37:38,008, -->, 00:37:40.021 format, where the city manager, 1001, 00:37:40,021, --> 00:37:45.009, would prepare that budget., so 1002 00:37:45,009 --> 00:37:47.009.

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This is why I'm proposing no 1003 00:37:47,009 --> 00:37:48.006 change to our form of 1004 00:37:48,006 --> 00:37:50.005 government.. I are arguing to 1005 00:37:50,005 --> 00:37:51.010. Keep the current council 1006 00:37:51,010 -->, 00:37:52.015 manager, form of governance to 1007 00:37:52,015 --> 00:37:53.022 maintain equitable 1008 00:37:53,022 --> 00:37:54.002 representation and a fair 1009 00:37:54,002 --> 00:37:57.007 democratic process. we've had a 1010 00:37:57,007 --> 00:37:58.006 lot of we've heard a lot of 1011 00:37:58,006 --> 00:38:00.002 feedback during our meeting and 1012 00:38:00,002 --> 00:38:01.015 among the commissioners, 1013 00:38:01,015, --> 00:38:02.010 ourselves.

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We all agreed that 1014 00:38:02,010, --> 00:38:04.010 equity and inclusion and 1015 00:38:04,010 --> 00:38:06.001 representation are very core 1016 00:38:06,001 --> 00:38:08.021 issues that we want to focus on 1017 00:38:08,021, --> 00:38:09.012, when we think of making our 1018 00:38:09,012 --> 00:38:12.019 recommendations I for a lot of 1019 00:38:12,019 --> 00:38:14.001 community.

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There are council, 1020, 00:38:14,001, -->, 00:38:16.010 members, their first point of 1021 00:38:16,010 --> 00:38:17.023 contact when it comes to 1022, 00:38:17,023, -->, 00:38:19.006 accessing city services, and we 1023 00:38:19,006 --> 00:38:21.012, discuss why we shouldn't limit 1024, 00:38:21,012 --> 00:38:26.029, the power of council, members., 1025, 00:38:26,029, --> 00:38:27.004, so changing to a mayor council, 1026, 00:38:27,004, -->, 00:38:29.020 form governance will step into 1027 00:38:29,020 --> 00:38:30.028, already preexisting democratic, 1028, 00:38:30,028 --> 00:38:31.005 powers of the council to one 1029 00:38:31,005 --> 00:38:34.016 person, the mayor..

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This will 1030 00:38:34,016 --> 00:38:35.005 decrease overall equitable 1031 00:38:35,005 --> 00:38:37.006, representation, accountability, 1032 00:38:37,006, -->, 00:38:38.008 and inclusion, which will 1033 00:38:38,008 --> 00:38:39.007 conflict with our council, 1034 00:38:39,007 --> 00:38:41.004 directive, five, which was given 1035 00:38:41,004 --> 00:38:42.006 to the commission, which is 1036 00:38:42,006 --> 00:38:43.004, considered to consider 1037 00:38:43,004 --> 00:38:44.005 additional measures and 1038 00:38:44,005 --> 00:38:46.027 potential amendments as needed: 1039 00:38:46,027, --> 00:38:46.017 that will improve 1040, 00:38:46,017 --> 00:38:48.024, accountability, representation, 1041 00:38:48,024, -->, 00:38:49.002, and inclusion at san jose, 1042, 00:38:49,002, -->, 00:38:53.008 city hall..

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So through these 1043 00:38:53,008 --> 00:38:54.014 sessions, we've also how 1044 00:38:54,014 --> 00:38:55.017 important the city manager, 1045 00:38:55,017, --> 00:38:57.004 position is and how a lot of 1046 00:38:57,004 --> 00:38:59.016 our community members are well 1047, 00:38:59,016, --> 00:39:00.001 acquainted with what the city 1048 00:39:00,001 --> 00:39:04.021 manager does.. So I do propose 1049 00:39:04,021 --> 00:39:06.005 to expand the city manager, 1050, 00:39:06,005, -->, 00:39:08.003, nomination process to include 1051, 00:39:08,003, -->, 00:39:11.016, council members as well, and 1052 00:39:11,016, --> 00:39:12.020.

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This would allow the council to 1053 00:39:12,020 --> 00:39:14.010, submit if you are back another 1054 00:39:14,010 --> 00:39:16.023 council members, nomination, 1055 00:39:16,023 --> 00:39:17.004, which will foster collaboration, 1056, 00:39:17,004, -->, 00:39:20.024 and equitable representation by 1057 00:39:20,024 --> 00:39:21.002, allowing council members to 1058 00:39:21,002 --> 00:39:23.004, submit applicants aligned with 1059 00:39:23,004 --> 00:39:25.011, their constituents values. and 1060 00:39:25,011 --> 00:39:26.025. This would help us fulfill our 1061 00:39:26,025 --> 00:39:27.000 council directive, five, which I 1062 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30.001 mentioned earlier.. Basically, I 1063 00:39:30,001 --> 00:39:31.010.

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Think that opening up this 1064 00:39:31,010 --> 00:39:34.000 process would would allow for 1065 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37.025 more collaboration and make 1066 00:39:37,025 --> 00:39:38.022 more democratic when it comes 1067, 00:39:38,022, -->, 00:39:41.001 to to selecting a city manager, 1068 00:39:41,001, --> 00:39:43.025, which we know is a very,, very 1069 00:39:43,025, -->, 00:39:44.019, important and powerful position. 1070 00:39:44,019 --> 00:39:46.019 within our city government, now 1071 00:39:46,019, --> 00:39:48.008, and that is my presentation. 1072 00:39:48,008 --> 00:39:52.024 thank you. thank you, mr. 1073 00:39:52,024, -->, 00:39:53.009 johnson.

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and we'll now move to 1074 00:39:53,009 --> 00:39:56.015, the public to speak to this 1075 00:39:56,015 --> 00:39:57.023. These set of recommendations. 1076 00:39:57,023 --> 00:40:09.020. Our speaker is robert white. 1077 00:40:09,020 --> 00:40:18.003 robert, go ahead. ok,, I'm going 1078 00:40:18,003 --> 00:40:20.027. To give him time. Maybe he may 1079 00:40:20,027 --> 00:40:20.006 have stepped away from his 1080 00:40:20,006 --> 00:40:22.005 computer.

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So I'm going to move 1081 00:40:22,005 --> 00:40:24.025 on to brett b.m., followed by 1082 00:40:24,025 --> 00:40:28.024 tamlin hi brett by executive 1083, 00:40:28,024 --> 00:40:29.007, director healing grove health, 1084, 00:40:29,007, -->, 00:40:33.015 center.. I just want to again 1085 00:40:33,015 --> 00:40:34.025 direct you to the report that 1086 00:40:34,025 --> 00:40:35.007.

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We have where we were able to 1087 00:40:35,007 --> 00:40:38.013 solicit the thoughts of more 1088 00:40:38,013 --> 00:40:39.020 than three hundred fifty 1089 00:40:39,020 --> 00:40:40.012, low-income spanish speaking, 1090 00:40:40,012 --> 00:40:44.029 immigrants, bitwise, charterer 1091, 00:40:44,029, -->, 00:40:45.015, twenty twenty one., one of the 1092 00:40:45,015 --> 00:40:47.015, really scary things we found is 1093 00:40:47,015, --> 00:40:49.016.

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That policing is a top of mind: 1094 00:40:49,016, --> 00:40:51.002 for a lot of people and so 1095 00:40:51,002 --> 00:40:53.002 people are more concerned about 1096 00:40:53,002 --> 00:40:54.010, the police chief than the city, 1097 00:40:54,010, -->, 00:40:55.013 manager.. I think it's really 1098 00:40:55,013 --> 00:40:56.009 important in this process that 1099 00:40:56,009 --> 00:40:59.015.

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We give a lot of thought to how 1100 00:40:59,015 --> 00:41:01.000, the police chief, is appointed., 1101, 00:41:01,000, -->, 00:41:03.022, so having the police chief 1102 00:41:03,022, --> 00:41:04.029 appointed by the city manager, 1103 00:41:04,029, -->, 00:41:05.012 kind of separates it from the 1104 00:41:05,012 --> 00:41:08.027 democratic process by step., so 1105 00:41:08,027, --> 00:41:09.024. We would really ask that the 1106 00:41:09,024 --> 00:41:11.029 commission considers making 1107 00:41:11,029 --> 00:41:14.005, both the police chief and the 1108 00:41:14,005 --> 00:41:17.026 city manager by majority 1109, 00:41:17,026 --> 00:41:18.001.

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Appointment of the council.- so 1110 00:41:18,001 --> 00:41:20.029 a similar process to what was 1111 00:41:20,029 --> 00:41:21.014, just outlined.

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thank you,, 1112 00:41:21,014 --> 00:41:23.014, commissioner, for for that 1113 00:41:23,014, --> 00:41:25.020, similar process of the council 1114 00:41:25,020 --> 00:41:26.020 would have the ability to 1115 00:41:26,020 --> 00:41:28.021 nominate people for police, for 1116 00:41:28,021, -->, 00:41:30.025, chief of police, and it would be 1117 00:41:30,025, -->, 00:41:31.011, directly written to the city, 1118 00:41:31,011, -->, 00:41:33.023 charter, that the chief of 1119, 00:41:33,023, -->, 00:41:35.004 police, had to be approved by by 1120 00:41:35,004, -->, 00:41:39.029, majority of the city. Council.- I 1121 00:41:39,029 --> 00:41:39.024.

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Think that's the best way to 1122 00:41:39,024 --> 00:41:41.020 ensure that we both hold our 1123 00:41:41,020 --> 00:41:43.000 police, accountable to caring, 1124, 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45.024 for our community and ensuring 1125 00:41:45,024 --> 00:41:46.025 that we achieve public safety, 1126 00:41:46,025, --> 00:41:47.027, and that particularly 1127 00:41:47,027, --> 00:41:49.007 communities of color who 1128 00:41:49,007, --> 00:41:52.016 experience the most policing, 1129 00:41:52,016, --> 00:41:55.027 are able to to to to have 1130 00:41:55,027 --> 00:41:56.025 influence on the way policing, 1131 00:41:56,025 --> 00:42:02.023 is working.

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tam, when followed 1132, 00:42:02,023 --> 00:42:06.026 by a lenaghan at this time, not 1133, 00:42:06,026, -->, 00:42:07.011 again.. Thank you very much. 1134 00:42:07,011 --> 00:42:09.001 commissioners..

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I really 1135 00:42:09,001 --> 00:42:11.015, appreciate the presentation of 1136 00:42:11,015 --> 00:42:13.010, commissioner johnson, and does 1137 00:42:13,010 --> 00:42:16.003 reflect the vast majority of 1138 00:42:16,003 --> 00:42:19.026, the community input when our 1139 00:42:19,026 --> 00:42:21.009 people perform our community 1140 00:42:21,009 --> 00:42:25.024 our meeting as being as a 1141 00:42:25,024 --> 00:42:27.026, former council member myself, I 1142 00:42:27,026 --> 00:42:28.026, think the current mayor, 1143 00:42:28,026 --> 00:42:30.000 situation that relationship 1144, 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33.003 already has vast power, 1145 00:42:33,003 --> 00:42:35.012, including the rules committee, 1146, 00:42:35,012, -->, 00:42:37.010, chairman of the committee of 1147 00:42:37,010 --> 00:42:39.026, the council and especially the 1148 00:42:39,026 --> 00:42:41.005 budget of members so and so 1149 00:42:41,005 -->, 00:42:46.006 forth..

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So I think what whatever 1150 00:42:46,006 --> 00:42:48.021 we have right now is very good 1151 00:42:48,021, --> 00:42:50.013 and it does reflect the 1152 00:42:50,013 --> 00:42:53.024 function of our city as it is. 1153, 00:42:53,024, -->, 00:42:55.019, so again,. I thank you for your 1154 00:42:55,019 --> 00:42:58.014 work and we really coincide. 1155 00:42:58,014 --> 00:43:00.010, with the public input on this 1156 00:43:00,010 --> 00:43:04.026 matter.. Thank you, leiningen 1157, 00:43:04,026, --> 00:43:08.024, followed by roma dorson. 1158 00:43:08,024 -->, 00:43:10.021 morning..

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I thank you for the 1159 00:43:10,021 --> 00:43:13.021 presentation and I feel that 1160 00:43:13,021 --> 00:43:14.018 this presentation, I'm sorry 1161 00:43:14,018, --> 00:43:15.028. This proposal should move 1162, 00:43:15,028 -->, 00:43:17.024 forward.. I do feel that we 1163 00:43:17,024 --> 00:43:19.017, should stay with our current 1164 00:43:19,017 --> 00:43:23.006 councilmember system, and I also 1165 00:43:23,006 --> 00:43:25.011 appreciate the details.

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1166 00:43:25,011 --> 00:43:27.016 highlight how the mayor already 1167, 00:43:27,016 --> 00:43:29.011, has power in this current 1168 00:43:29,011 --> 00:43:32.010 councilmember system that we've 1169 00:43:32,010 --> 00:43:35.011 adapted in our own way, and the 1170 00:43:35,011 --> 00:43:37.000 mayor being able to put forth 1171 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40.015, the the budget message and the 1172 00:43:40,015 --> 00:43:42.010 memo, and I propose the budget 1173 00:43:42,010 --> 00:43:45.021, that's a very powerful part of 1174 00:43:45,021 --> 00:43:47.028 the process because allocating 1175, 00:43:47,028, --> 00:43:50.007 how and where money is spent is 1176.

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00:43:50,007 --> 00:43:53.018 part of making sure that 1177 00:43:53,018 --> 00:43:55.012 certain programs receive 1178, 00:43:55,012, --> 00:44:02.006 priority and also in going 1179, 00:44:02,006 --> 00:44:05.029 blank sorry saturday morning, 1180 00:44:05,029, -->, 00:44:07.028 and in terms of the nomination 1181 00:44:07,028 --> 00:44:09.018 powers,. I think that's also a 1182 00:44:09,018 --> 00:44:11.000 good proposal to put forth 1183 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14.006, because any person that's 1184 00:44:14,006 --> 00:44:15.006 coming in will be working with 1185 00:44:15,006, -->, 00:44:17.029, all council members.

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I think 1186 00:44:17,029 --> 00:44:18.000 each council, member to their 1187, 00:44:18,000, -->, 00:44:21.002, unique, lived experience, present, 1188, 00:44:21,002, -->, 00:44:23.021, a specific, a specific filter, 1189 00:44:23,021, -->, 00:44:24.013 and perspective of what skills 1190 00:44:24,013, --> 00:44:26.005 would be helpful in being a 1191 00:44:26,005, -->, 00:44:28.029 city manager or what values 1192 00:44:28,029 --> 00:44:29.026 would be more representative of 1193 00:44:29,026, --> 00:44:31.017, everyone in san jose. and so 1194 00:44:31,017 --> 00:44:33.004, opening that up and making that 1195 00:44:33,004 --> 00:44:35.017 a more democratic process.

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I 1196 00:44:35,017 --> 00:44:36.000 think will improve 1197 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39.023 collaboration and overall I 1198 00:44:39,023 --> 00:44:40.027 support this proposal. Moving 1199 00:44:40,027 --> 00:44:44.028 forward. thank you, roma 1200, 00:44:44,028, -->, 00:44:49.005 dawson.. Thank you.

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Vice chair 1201, 00:44:49,005, --> 00:44:52.009 for bringing the proposal the 1202 00:44:52,009 --> 00:44:54.009 proposal forward and I'm not 1203 00:44:54,009 --> 00:44:57.026, going to I'm not going to say 1204 00:44:57,026 --> 00:44:59.021, whether I prefer a city manager, 1205, 00:44:59,021, -->, 00:45:01.003 or city manager, council form of 1206, 00:45:01,003, -->, 00:45:04.010, government or mayor council 1207, 00:45:04,010 --> 00:45:05.023, because I think that doesn't 1208 00:45:05,023 --> 00:45:06.023 take into account the many 1209 00:45:06,023 --> 00:45:09.011 nuanced hybrid models that are 1210 00:45:09,011, --> 00:45:11.017 out there and available 1211 00:45:11,017 --> 00:45:13.005, something like kansas, city,, a 1212, 00:45:13,005, -->, 00:45:17.012 city, half the size of san jose 1213 00:45:17,012, --> 00:45:20.027.

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I I do feel that this is the 1214 00:45:20,027 --> 00:45:21.019 primary charge of this 1215 00:45:21,019. --≫. 00:45:23.004 commission.- I mean I see this 1216 00:45:23,004 --> 00:45:25.000 is really the overwhelming 1217 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28.006 number one issue to decide: do 1218 00:45:28,006, --> 00:45:30.006. We need to tweak our current 1219 00:45:30,006 --> 00:45:32.015 form of city manager, government 1220, 00:45:32,015, -->, 00:45:34.010 ?. Do we need to move to 1221 00:45:34,010 --> 00:45:36.005, something where the mayor is 1222 00:45:36,005, --> 00:45:39.013, the ceo??

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I've listened to every 1223, 00:45:39,013 --> 00:45:41.007 single meeting and I've, not 1224 00:45:41,007 --> 00:45:45.023 heard a robust discussion of a 1225 00:45:45,023, --> 00:45:46.026 form of governance, and I 1226 00:45:46,026 --> 00:45:47.022 just want to express some 1227 00:45:47,022 --> 00:45:49.012 frustration at that and I am 1228 00:45:49,012 --> 00:45:52.000 hoping before this is a great 1229 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54.026 commission and you're diverse 1230 00:45:54,026 --> 00:45:56.016 and you are all engaged.

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I would 1231 00:45:56,016 --> 00:45:59.017 love to see a public discussion, 1232 00:45:59,017, --> 00:46:01.027, not just an ad hoc committee, 1233 00:46:01,027, --> 00:46:02.023, where the public wasn't there. 1234, 00:46:02,023, --> 00:46:04.005. I would love to see a robust 1235, 00:46:04,005 --> 00:46:07.004 public discussion of whether we 1236 00:46:07,004 --> 00:46:09.010 need to tweak it. for example, 1237 00:46:09,010 --> 00:46:11.012, we've weakened some of the 1238 00:46:11,012 --> 00:46:12.009 powers of the mayor, 1239 00:46:12,009, --> 00:46:14.020. Significantly, the ability to 1240 00:46:14,020 --> 00:46:16.024 appoint rules is huge..

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I just 1241 00:46:16,024 --> 00:46:17.011 heard about that from the city. 1242 00:46:17,011, -->, 00:46:20.020 attorney at your last meeting. 1243 00:46:20,020, --> 00:46:22.012. I just before you put this in 1244 00:46:22,012 -->, 00:46:24.015 cement,. I just think it 1245 00:46:24,015 --> 00:46:25.021 deserves more thoughtful 1246 00:46:25,021 --> 00:46:26.015 discussion and a little bit 1247 00:46:26,015 -->, 00:46:28.009, more research, and I want to 1248 00:46:28,009 --> 00:46:30.004 hear dr. percival's data about 1249 00:46:30,004, -->, 00:46:32.010 police.. I found that that 1250 00:46:32,010 --> 00:46:36.020 comment: fascinate.

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thank you., 1251, 00:46:36,020, --> 00:46:38.014 back to the commissioner. thank 1252 00:46:38,014 --> 00:46:39.020, you, members of the public, 1253 00:46:39,020 --> 00:46:40.025, for your comments and that 1254 00:46:40,025 --> 00:46:41.024. Let's move to our final 1255 00:46:41,024 --> 00:46:43.019 presentation this morning., I 1256 00:46:43,019, --> 00:46:48.022, don't fischer johnson, I 1257 00:46:48,022 --> 00:46:49.027 thought this is coming from 1258 00:46:49,027 --> 00:46:50.009, commissioner, was not, but I'm 1259, 00:46:50,009 --> 00:46:52.026, not sure she's. Here yet. 1260, 00:46:52,026, -->, 00:46:54.023 yes,.

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I am commissioner marshman 1261 00:46:54,023 --> 00:46:55.008 is going to be presenting on 1262 00:46:55,008 --> 00:46:57.000, her behalf.. Thank you very 1263, 00:46:57,000 -->, 00:47:01.013 much, mr. marshman. thank you., 1264 00:47:01,013, --> 00:47:02.007, and I'm going to be going more 1265, 00:47:02,007, --> 00:47:04.009 from notes here than usual 1266 00:47:04,009 --> 00:47:06.005, because I'm referring to 1267 00:47:06,005 --> 00:47:11.027 linda's material, but I agree: 1268 00:47:11,027, --> 00:47:14.023, with this proposal and along 1269 00:47:14,023 --> 00:47:16.010 the lines of what what romer 1270 00:47:16,010 --> 00:47:19.002 was saying this.

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This is an area 1271 00:47:19,002 --> 00:47:22.007, where I think I think the 1272 00:47:22,007 --> 00:47:24.009 committee now is- is more or 1273 00:47:24,009 --> 00:47:26.019 less in agreement that we ought 1274 00:47:26,019 --> 00:47:30.018 to do this,, which is giving the 1275 00:47:30,018 --> 00:47:34.026 mayor more power to declare an 1276 00:47:34,026 --> 00:47:38.017 emergency, a local emergency and 1277 00:47:38,017 --> 00:47:40.023.

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In that situation, giving the 1278 00:47:40,023 --> 00:47:44.007 mayor the power to act as 1279 00:47:44,007 --> 00:47:47.001, the director of emergency 1280, 00:47:47,001 --> 00:47:50.007 services, which now is a power 1281 00:47:50,007, --> 00:47:54.019 given to the city manager.

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the 1282 00:47:54,019 -->, 00:47:55.016 general public looks to the 1283 00:47:55,016 --> 00:47:58.005, mayor, specific and and council 1284 00:47:58,005 --> 00:48:00.000, member generally to be 1285 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02.002, accountable for actions taken 1286 00:48:02,002, --> 00:48:05.002 by city government, elected 1287, 00:48:05,002 --> 00:48:07.006 officials expect to be held, 1288 00:48:07,006, -->, 00:48:09.005 accountable., but it's 1289 00:48:09,005 --> 00:48:12.017 frustrating when, when 1290 00:48:12,017 --> 00:48:13.000, something that is the city 1291 00:48:13,000, --> 00:48:19.005 staff decision is, is called 1292 00:48:19,005 --> 00:48:22.017 into question, and public 1293 00:48:22,017 --> 00:48:23.010 officials are frustrated, 1294, 00:48:23,010, --> 00:48:28.022 because they get blamed and 1295 00:48:28,022 --> 00:48:31.016 you know,.

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It's it's in the 1296 00:48:31,016 --> 00:48:33.015 public itself is frustrated. 1297 00:48:33,015, --> 00:48:35.015, because they they don't know 1298 00:48:35,015, --> 00:48:39.029, who to go to.. The public does 1299 00:48:39,029 --> 00:48:41.003 not have direct influence over 1300 00:48:41,003 --> 00:48:43.014, the city manager, who's, a 1301, 00:48:43,014 -->, 00:48:45.019 professional., so we have had 1302 00:48:45,019 --> 00:48:47.015 situations in san jose,, the 1303 00:48:47,015 --> 00:48:49.015 coyote creek flood the most 1304 00:48:49,015 -->, 00:48:52.020 obvious one where an emergency 1305 00:48:52,020 --> 00:48:56.000, was called too late and and 1306 00:48:56,000 --> 00:49:01.015.

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It's possible that mayor with a 1307 00:49:01,015, --> 00:49:04.017, more direct concern for 1308 00:49:04,017, -->, 00:49:07.027 individuals in the city, voters, 1309, 00:49:07,027, -->, 00:49:09.025, perhaps but individuals in the 1310, 00:49:09,025 --> 00:49:11.013 city. I think most most elected 1311 00:49:11,013 --> 00:49:13.016 officials are responding more 1312, 00:49:13,016, -->, 00:49:16.026, responsive to the public and 1313 00:49:16,026, --> 00:49:18.008 and might have said earlier, 1314, 00:49:18,008, -->, 00:49:21.020 hey,. Have we have we at least 1315 00:49:21,020, --> 00:49:22.002? Let these folks know the 1316 00:49:22,002 --> 00:49:24.017 river is coming up?.

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Are they 1317 00:49:24,017 --> 00:49:27.014? Had they been warned?

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and we've 1318 00:49:27,014 --> 00:49:29.021 also seen demonstrations at the 1319 00:49:29,021 --> 00:49:32.018 mayor's house over issues that 1320 00:49:32,018 --> 00:49:34.008, that the mayor has no authority, 1321 00:49:34,008, -->, 00:49:39.024 over., so the charter currently 1322 00:49:39,024 --> 00:49:41.026, gives the city manager as 1323 00:49:41,026, --> 00:49:42.010, director of the office of 1324, 00:49:42,010, -->, 00:49:45.029 emergency services, the duty to 1325, 00:49:45,029, -->, 00:49:46.019, request the city council to 1326 00:49:46,019 --> 00:49:49.026 proclaim the existence or 1327 00:49:49,026 --> 00:49:51.027 threatened existence of a local 1328 00:49:51,027 --> 00:49:54.012 emergency.

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If the council isn't 1329 00:49:54,012 --> 00:49:57.000 section. If the council is not 1330, 00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00.027 in session, which ninety nine 1331 00:50:00,027 --> 00:50:01.008 percent of the time would be 1332 00:50:01,008 --> 00:50:05.012 the case go to the big 1333 00:50:05,012 --> 00:50:06.021 earthquake will hit when the 1334 00:50:06,021 --> 00:50:07.008 council's in session, but who 1335 00:50:07,008 -->.

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00:50:11.002 knows if the council is in 1336 00:50:11,002 --> 00:50:15.000 session?, the city manager is to 1337 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18.020 proclaim the city, proclaim: 1338 00:50:18,020 --> 00:50:19.012, the emergency take on the 1339 00:50:19,012 --> 00:50:24.013 powers, and he has that for 1340 00:50:24,013 --> 00:50:27.005 seven days within seven days, 1341 00:50:27,005, --> 00:50:30.028. The city council, is supposed to 1342 00:50:30,028 --> 00:50:33.000 either stop the state of 1343 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:38.022 emergency or approve it and for 1344 00:50:38,022 --> 00:50:43.027. Another thirty days now: 1345 00:50:43,027 --> 00:50:47.008.

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This memo linda's memo sets 1346 00:50:47,008, --> 00:50:49.014 for circumstances to be 1347 00:50:49,014, --> 00:50:50.025 considered under which the 1348 00:50:50,025 --> 00:50:53.003 mayor in his or her judgment, 1349 00:50:53,003 --> 00:50:56.011 deems extraordinary measures. 1350 00:50:56,011 --> 00:50:57.010 measures are required to 1351 00:50:57,010 --> 00:51:00.003, protect public peace, safety, 1352 00:51:00,003, -->, 00:51:02.023 and welfare.. In such an 1353 00:51:02,023 --> 00:51:03.011 instance. The mayor shall 1354 00:51:03,011 --> 00:51:05.021 proclaim in writing. The 1355 00:51:05,021 --> 00:51:07.025 existence, the local emergency, 1356, 00:51:07,025, --> 00:51:13.010.

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Now, recognizing that the 1357 00:51:13,010 --> 00:51:17.027 mayor, we would not want the 1358 00:51:17,027 --> 00:51:18.026 mayor to in a state of 1359 00:51:18,026 --> 00:51:20.005 emergency, take on all the 1360 00:51:20,005 --> 00:51:23.020 powers of the city, attorney of 1361 00:51:23,020 --> 00:51:25.021, the city manager, to manage the 1362 00:51:25,021 --> 00:51:27.023 city.

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So the charter would have 1363, 00:51:27,023 --> 00:51:32.015 to be changed to to isolate the 1364 00:51:32,015 --> 00:51:35.018 emergency services, powers and 1365 00:51:35,018 --> 00:51:37.003 give those to the to the mayor, 1366, 00:51:37,003, --> 00:51:41.002 for the period the emergency 1367 00:51:41,002 --> 00:51:44.008, and to eliminate some folks. 1368 00:51:44,008 --> 00:51:45.005 worried that america would 1369 00:51:45,005 --> 00:51:47.007 declare an emergency and fire 1370 00:51:47,007 --> 00:51:48.022 the whole city staff or 1371 00:51:48,022 -->, 00:51:49.022 something.. You couldn't do 1372 00:51:49,022 -->, 00:51:51.010 that..

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It would be very limited: 1373, 00:51:51,010, --> 00:51:55.010 to to the emergency at hand, but 1374 00:51:55,010, --> 00:51:56.025. It would give the mayor the 1375, 00:51:56,025 --> 00:51:58.017, possibility to move resources, 1376 00:51:58,017, -->, 00:52:02.022 and and get people working out. 1377 00:52:02,022 --> 00:52:07.008 their normal normal function., 1378, 00:52:07,008, --> 00:52:10.029.

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Additionally, in this proposal, 1379 00:52:10,029 --> 00:52:12.026, the mayor or the vice mayor, if 1380 00:52:12,026, --> 00:52:15.008, if the mayor is unavailable, has 1381 00:52:15,008 --> 00:52:18.001 to obtain ratification by the 1382 00:52:18,001 --> 00:52:23.022 city council within 72, hours., 1383, 00:52:23,022, --> 00:52:24.027, now remember: the city manager, 1384 00:52:24,027 --> 00:52:29.004 has a week to do. That. I a I 1385, 00:52:29,004 --> 00:52:31.026, understand people, people 1386, 00:52:31,026, --> 00:52:32.013 didn't want to leave it more 1387, 00:52:32,013 -->, 00:52:37.020 open..

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The only situation I can 1388 00:52:37,020 --> 00:52:38.024, think of where seventy two 1389 00:52:38,024 --> 00:52:40.013 hours might not work, would be a 1390 00:52:40,013, --> 00:52:42.020 major earthquake with a lot of 1391 00:52:42,020 --> 00:52:44.004 casualties,, no electricity and 1392 00:52:44,004, --> 00:52:47.004, so on.. So we might want to 1393 00:52:47,004 --> 00:52:49.024, think about about that, but 1394 00:52:49,024, --> 00:52:50.013. Definitely seventy two hours, 1395 00:52:50,013 --> 00:52:52.028, should be the target for the 1396 00:52:52,028 --> 00:52:54.018 council to weigh in under if at 1397, 00:52:54,018, --> 00:52:58.022 all possible..

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This proposal is 1398 00:52:58,022, --> 00:53:00.017 to just make it flat within 72 1399, 00:53:00,017, --> 00:53:02.012 hours or the state of emergency 1400 00:53:02,012 -->, 00:53:06.005 ends.. The mayor would not be 1401 00:53:06,005, --> 00:53:09.013, acting in a vacuum. Taking this 1402 00:53:09,013 --> 00:53:10.000 on the mayor would be working. 1403, 00:53:10,000, --> 00:53:12.006, with the city manager with 1404 00:53:12,006, -->, 00:53:14.006, the whole city, emergency 1405, 00:53:14,006, -->, 00:53:18.028 services, team., the mayor would 1406 00:53:18,028 --> 00:53:21.019 need some training or his 1407 00:53:21,019 --> 00:53:23.020.

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Perhaps someone on his staff, 1408 00:53:23,020, --> 00:53:27.013, would would take on more 1409, 00:53:27,013, -->, 00:53:30.011 training or expertize to deal 1410 00:53:30,011 --> 00:53:32.023 with this.. That's what san 1411 00:53:32,023 --> 00:53:34.011 francisco,, los angeles and and 1412 00:53:34,011 --> 00:53:36.016. Some other cities do there. a 1413, 00:53:36,016, --> 00:53:38.024 number of cities do expect the 1414 00:53:38,024 --> 00:53:45.012 mayor to be in control, so 1415 00:53:45,012, --> 00:53:47.020. This is a matter of the mayor, 1416 00:53:47,020, -->, 00:53:49.002, being able to make judgment.

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1417, 00:53:49,002, --> 00:53:55.029 calls based on what they 1418 00:53:55,029 --> 00:53:57.027. Believe the city residents 1419, 00:53:57,027, --> 00:54:00.012- would would want and and need 1420 00:54:00,012, --> 00:54:04.015 and the city manager's 1421, 00:54:04,015, --> 00:54:07.029 judgment can be, can be great 1422 00:54:07,029 --> 00:54:09.005 too., but it's it's. I might be a 1423 00:54:09,005 --> 00:54:12.011 little more directed to 1424 00:54:12,011, --> 00:54:16.014 systems than than people and 1425 00:54:16,014, --> 00:54:20.026, and so that's, basically, the 1426 00:54:20,026 --> 00:54:23.004 proposal.. Let's, let's hear what 1427 00:54:23,004 --> 00:54:26.001 you think..

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It comes under our 1428 00:54:26,001 --> 00:54:29.016 charge of promoting 1429 00:54:29,016 -->, 00:54:33.004 accountability and and by by 1430 00:54:33,004 --> 00:54:35.007, giving the mayor this more 1431, 00:54:35,007, -->, 00:54:37.021, emergency power, the people 1432 00:54:37,021, --> 00:54:41.022, would have someone to praise 1433, 00:54:41,022 --> 00:54:43.020. If everything is wonderful and 1434 00:54:43,020 --> 00:54:45.015 to hold accountable if 1435, 00:54:45,015, --> 00:54:47.026, everything is not wonderful. In 1436 00:54:47,026, --> 00:54:50.020, a response to an emergency. 1437 00:54:50,020 --> 00:54:52.020 thank you.

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commissioner 1438 00:54:52,020 --> 00:54:53.012 marshman is here from the 1439 00:54:53,012 --> 00:54:55.015 public. Those wishing to speak 1440, 00:54:55,015 --> 00:54:59.004 to these set of recommendations, 1441 00:54:59,004, --> 00:55:02.007 for the first speakers, tom isoo, 1442, 00:55:02,007, --> 00:55:07.029, followed by nat king, members, 1443 00:55:07,029 -->. 00:55:08.000 of the commission.- my name is 1444 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11.013 holomisa., I'm a resident of san 1445, 00:55:11,013 --> 00:55:12.010, jose and a chapter leader of 1446 00:55:12,010 --> 00:55:14.000, the santa clara valley of the 1447 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:17.025 aclu of northern california. 1448 00:55:17,025 --> 00:55:18.011.

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I'm providing public comment on 1449 00:55:18,011, --> 00:55:20.018 and in response to regulation, 1450 00:55:20,018, --> 00:55:21.008 for emergency powers of the 1451 00:55:21,008 --> 00:55:24.006 mayor in the last, especially in 1452 00:55:24,006 -->, 00:55:25.014 response to the national 1453 00:55:25,014 --> 00:55:26.008 movement, calling attention to 1454 00:55:26,008 --> 00:55:28.022 police violence,. We have seen 1455 00:55:28,022 --> 00:55:29.009 that emergency powers have been 1456 00:55:29,009 --> 00:55:31.012 used to impose curfews on our 1457 00:55:31,012 --> 00:55:33.024 communities..

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Any proposal- 1458 00:55:33,024 --> 00:55:35.012 detailing emergency powers, must 1459 00:55:35,012 --> 00:55:37.001 ensure adequate safeguards to 1460 00:55:37,001 --> 00:55:39.011 protect civil liberties and 1461 00:55:39,011 --> 00:55:40.028 should include an explicit 1462 00:55:40,028 --> 00:55:41.009 presumption against citywide 1463 00:55:41,009 --> 00:55:44.006 curfew. additionally, city 1464, 00:55:44,006 --> 00:55:46.020 council should concurrently be 1465. 00:55:46,020 --> 00:55:47.006, made aware when issuing an 1466 00:55:47,006 --> 00:55:50.017 emergency order.. Thank you very 1467, 00:55:50,017 --> 00:55:53.027 much for your time. Matt 1468, 00:55:53,027, --> 00:55:58.007 king, followed by a leiningen.

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1469 00:55:58,007 --> 00:56:01.015 good morning again, matt cain., I 1470 00:56:01,015 --> 00:56:02.029 am wondering if I'm the only 1471 00:56:02,029 --> 00:56:03.020 superstitious person in this 1472 00:56:03,020 --> 00:56:05.019 meeting who's now convinced an 1473 00:56:05,019 --> 00:56:06.000 earthquake is going to hit 1474 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08.018 during a city council, meeting., 1475, 00:56:08,018 -->, 00:56:10.004 yeah,, but that's not what 1476 00:56:10,004 --> 00:56:12.029 we're here to talk about., so 1477 00:56:12,029 --> 00:56:13.010.

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Since monday night I have been 1478 00:56:13,010 --> 00:56:15.020 running around trying to talk 1479, 00:56:15,020 --> 00:56:16.029 to a lot of people about this 1480 00:56:16,029 --> 00:56:19.011, and bring some consensus from 1481 00:56:19,011 --> 00:56:22.000 folks, who are people who have 1482 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24.003 protested at the mayor's house, 1483 00:56:24,003, --> 00:56:27.005 and were affected by and very 1484 00:56:27,005 --> 00:56:30.017, much against the curfew and 1485 00:56:30,017 --> 00:56:31.018 people who are engaged 1486, 00:56:31,018, -->, 00:56:33.023 politically at a street 1487 00:56:33,023, -->, 00:56:35.029, grassroots level and kind of 1488 00:56:35,029 --> 00:56:37.010.

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What people coalesced around is 1489 00:56:37,010 --> 00:56:39.013 that there's a couple of 1490 00:56:39,013 --> 00:56:42.009 values. Here. one is 1491: 00:56:42,009 -->, 00:56:44.028 accountability and 1492 00:56:44,028 --> 00:56:45.012, transparency, transparency, 1493, 00:56:45,012, -->, 00:56:48.016 around that accountability and 1494 00:56:48,016 -->, 00:56:51.028 checks on power and another one 1495 00:56:51,028 --> 00:56:54.023 is earthquakes and floods. 1496 00:56:54,023, -->, 00:56:56.023 and political events are not 1497, 00:56:56,023, --> 00:56:57.029 the same and shouldn't be 1498 00:56:57,029 --> 00:56:59.009 treated the same., so I think 1499 00:56:59,009 --> 00:57:01.024 people.

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I have spoken with 1500 00:57:01,024 --> 00:57:03.001 generally feel fine about. If 1501 00:57:03,001, --> 00:57:05.004, there is an earthquake, great 1502, 00:57:05,004, --> 00:57:07.020. The mayor can call an emergency 1503 00:57:07,020 --> 00:57:08.001.

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But if it's a situation, it is a 1504 00:57:08,001, --> 00:57:10.016 political situation where we're 1505, 00:57:10,016 --> 00:57:11.011 talking about civil liberties, 1506 00:57:11,011, --> 00:57:14.021 being at risk,, then we cannot 1507 00:57:14,021 --> 00:57:15.007 have one person have the 1508 00:57:15,007 --> 00:57:19.012 power to call that and that the 1509 00:57:19,012 --> 00:57:20.017 power that we could give the 1510 00:57:20,017 --> 00:57:22.009 mayor?

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Is the authority to 1511 00:57:22,009 --> 00:57:24.012, convene an emergency council, 1512 00:57:24,012 --> 00:57:26.016 meeting that could be online 1513 00:57:26,016 --> 00:57:27.025 and would be streamed and 1514 00:57:27,025 --> 00:57:28.017, distributed through all of the 1515 00:57:28,017 --> 00:57:31.026 channels, and needing to get six 1516 00:57:31,026 --> 00:57:33.029 people and cognizant of the 1517 00:57:33,029 --> 00:57:34.001 city attorney's comments, the 1518, 00:57:34,001 --> 00:57:36.021 other day about the difference: 1519 00:57:36,021, --> 00:57:37.022 between percentage no,, we do 1520, 00:57:37,022 --> 00:57:40.010 mean six people on the council.

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1521 00:57:40,010 --> 00:57:43.029 to agree that this rises to the 1522, 00:57:43,029, -->, 00:57:45.005 level of emergency and then an 1523 00:57:45,005 --> 00:57:47.014 emergency could be called 1524, 00:57:47,014 -->, 00:57:48.002 again,. This is specifically 1525 00:57:48,002 --> 00:57:50.027 relating to a political 1526, 00:57:50,027 --> 00:57:51.022 situation, and we would need to 1527 00:57:51,022 --> 00:57:53.017 do some work to identify what 1528 00:57:53,017 --> 00:57:55.028. Those types of situations are 1529 00:57:55,028, --> 00:57:56.022. In addition to the one last 1530 00:57:56,022 --> 00:57:58.018 summer, where the curfew was 1531, 00:57:58,018, -->, 00:58:07.015 called.

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thank you, leiningen,. I 1532 00:58:07,015 --> 00:58:11.024. I agree with the the spirit of 1533 00:58:11,024 --> 00:58:12.005. This proposal, which is, I think, 1534 00:58:12,005 --> 00:58:14.005. It's worth checking for cracks, 1535, 00:58:14,005, --> 00:58:15.027 in our disaster planning, 1536 00:58:15,027 --> 00:58:16.027 protocol such as natural 1537, 00:58:16,027, -->, 00:58:18.020 disasters, but overall 1538, 00:58:18,020, -->, 00:58:21.023 emergencies, power that needs 1539, 00:58:21,023, -->, 00:58:23.019 specificity, because that's what 1540, 00:58:23,019 --> 00:58:25.029 keeps abuse of power in check. 1541 00:58:25,029, --> 00:58:26.016 is accountability measures 1542 00:58:26,016, --> 00:58:29.017.

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Without that you are creating 1543 00:58:29,017 --> 00:58:31.009, an environment where abuse 1544, 00:58:31,009, --> 00:58:33.029 could happen, and I think we 1545 00:58:33,029 --> 00:58:34.013 need to be careful about acting 1546 00:58:34,013, --> 00:58:36.018 from an insular perspective, 1547 00:58:36,018 --> 00:58:38.008, because increasing mayoral 1548, 00:58:38,008, --> 00:58:40.020 powers during emergencies that 1549 00:58:40,020 --> 00:58:41.013 are not natural disasters that 1550 00:58:41,013 --> 00:58:44.022 is a protest, is inconsequential 1551, 00:58:44,022, --> 00:58:46.011 to some communities..

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It won't 1552, 00:58:46,011 -->, 00:58:48.024 impact them negatively, but it 1553 00:58:48,024, --> 00:58:49.002 stands to have a devastating 1554, 00:58:49,002, -->, 00:58:51.027 and life threatening impact for 1555, 00:58:51,027, -->, 00:58:52.012 communities of color. and if 1556 00:58:52,012, --> 00:58:54.005, you dismiss those concerns, 1557 00:58:54,005 --> 00:58:55.005. That's because of your 1558 00:58:55,005 --> 00:58:57.020 privilege, and it is your due 1559 00:58:57,020 --> 00:58:58.013 diligence to put those equity, 1560, 00:58:58,013, --> 00:59:00.013 lenses on and not do that. 1561, 00:59:00,013, --> 00:59:02.000. That's why we're here and 1562 00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04.008.

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Also to echo what commissioner 1563 00:59:04,008 --> 00:59:05.004 callendar had said. The last 1564 00:59:05,004 --> 00:59:07.002 meeting is that now we're 1565 00:59:07,002 --> 00:59:09.002 getting into politics and 1566 00:59:09,002 --> 00:59:11.013 emergency planning, where those 1567 00:59:11,013 --> 00:59:12.023, who should not mix because 1568 00:59:12,023 --> 00:59:13.022. During an emergency, we need to 1569 00:59:13,022 --> 00:59:14.015, be able to come together, 1570 00:59:14,015 --> 00:59:16.027 quickly and take care of each 1571 00:59:16,027 --> 00:59:18.011 other, and that is very 1572. 00:59:18,011 --> 00:59:21.021 different from a protest. and 1573 00:59:21,021 --> 00:59:22.027.

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So I think we should be talking 1574 00:59:22,027, --> 00:59:24.024, about emergency plans, but I 1575 00:59:24,024 --> 00:59:25.008, don't think we should be 1576 00:59:25,008 --> 00:59:27.003 brushing off people's concerns, 1577 00:59:27,003, --> 00:59:29.014 without respect to their very 1578 00:59:29,014 --> 00:59:30.024, valid concerns about their 1579 00:59:30,024 --> 00:59:32.004 safety in expanding and not 1580, 00:59:32,004 -->, 00:59:34.007 being specific about what we 1581 00:59:34,007 --> 00:59:36.015, mean by emergency powers. and 1582 00:59:36,015 --> 00:59:38.013.

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So I agree that we should 1583 00:59:38,013 --> 00:59:39.008, really look at this from a 1584 00:59:39,008 --> 00:59:41.008 natural disaster perspective, 1585, 00:59:41,008, --> 00:59:43.020, and to really add as much as we 1586 00:59:43,020 --> 00:59:45.024. Can to that because we live 1587, 00:59:45,024 --> 00:59:47.007, where we live and part of this 1588 00:59:47,007 --> 00:59:49.009. Is that we're not going to see 1589 00:59:49,009 --> 00:59:50.012 it coming.

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it's just going to 1590 00:59:50,012 --> 00:59:51.020 happen, and so we need to be 1591, 00:59:51,020, -->, 00:59:52.022 ready at any moment, and so we 1592 00:59:52,022 --> 00:59:53.006 need to be talking about this 1593 00:59:53,006, -->, 00:59:55.004 and planning for this.. But I do 1594 00:59:55,004 --> 00:59:58.026 not agree about adding a 1595 00:59:58,026 --> 00:59:59.022 protest to emergency powers, 1596 00:59:59,022 --> 01:00:01.005, because I don't think that is 1597 01:00:01,005 --> 01:00:03.007, that type of emergency. thank 1598, 01:00:03,007, -->, 01:00:07.016, you, carol., what's followed by 1599 01:00:07,016 --> 01:00:12.015, sheer oh yes..

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Thank you very 1600, 01:00:12,015 --> 01:00:15.024 much for your deliberations and 1601 01:00:15,024 --> 01:00:16.006 having this public statement. 1602 01:00:16,006, --> 01:00:18.010. My name is carol watson., I'm 1603 01:00:18,010 --> 01:00:19.019, the present of the league of 1604 01:00:19,019 -->, 01:00:21.003 women, voters of san jose,, santa 1605 01:00:21,003, -->, 01:00:24.006, clara and by the way,. I do want 1606 01:00:24,006 --> 01:00:25.009 to say that we have not 1607 01:00:25,009 --> 01:00:27.024 delivered the deliberatively 1608 01:00:27,024 --> 01:00:28.016 applied our positions to all 1609 01:00:28,016 --> 01:00:30.013.

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Four of these draft 1610 01:00:30,013 --> 01:00:32.014 recommendations today had 1611 01:00:32,014, --> 01:00:34.007 meetings to discuss and agree 1612 01:00:34,007 --> 01:00:36.000 on the stance. We would take. so 1613 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38.002. We will not making any specific 1614 01:00:38,002 --> 01:00:40.015 statements in support of in 1615 01:00:40,015 --> 01:00:41.016 opposition to the first three 1616 01:00:41,016 --> 01:00:43.004 recommendations., but we do 1617, 01:00:43,004 --> 01:00:45.014 intend to do so in the future. 1618 01:00:45,014 --> 01:00:46.017, because we think they're very 1619, 01:00:46,017 --> 01:00:48.024 important..

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We have had some 1620 01:00:48,024 --> 01:00:49.014 meetings and discuss this 1621 01:00:49,014 --> 01:00:52.027 recommendation., however number 1622 01:00:52,027 --> 01:00:55.007 four and we're we're pleased 1623, 01:00:55,007 --> 01:00:57.022, with the changes that were made. 1624 01:00:57,022 --> 01:00:58.001 in the draft, which was posted, 1625 01:00:58,001, --> 01:01:00.003 on thursday., but we still have 1626 01:01:00,003 --> 01:01:02.017, some issues with the 1627 01:01:02,017 --> 01:01:04.000 recommendation in general and 1628 01:01:04,000, --> 01:01:06.001 part of this discussion. I hope 1629 01:01:06,001 --> 01:01:08.017 we're correct about this fact. 1630 01:01:08,017 --> 01:01:09.002 are.

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We believe that the 1631 01:01:09,002 --> 01:01:11.013 operation of the city should be 1632, 01:01:11,013, --> 01:01:12.025 done with the skilled workforce, 1633 01:01:12,025, --> 01:01:14.017 of professional staff with the 1634 01:01:14,017 -->, 01:01:16.025 education and experience to 1635 01:01:16,025 --> 01:01:17.007 bring the knowhow needed to 1636 01:01:17,007 --> 01:01:19.007 carry out the policies and 1637 01:01:19,007 --> 01:01:22.015 priorities., so we're not so 1638 01:01:22,015 --> 01:01:23.003 sure that it's prudent for the 1639 01:01:23,003 --> 01:01:25.025 nonprofessional, the mayor to 1640 01:01:25,025 --> 01:01:26.026, take over the city operations, 1641, 01:01:26,026, -->, 01:01:30.000 during emergencies, and maybe 1642 01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32.019.

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That's not part of the memo 1643 01:01:32,019 --> 01:01:33.016 anymore.. So I want to be sure, 1644 01:01:33,016 --> 01:01:36.022 about that. First, we would 1645 01:01:36,022 --> 01:01:37.007, recommend that there be a 1646 01:01:37,007 --> 01:01:40.022 provision for declaring an end, 1647 01:01:40,022, --> 01:01:42.022 to these emergency powers and 1648 01:01:42,022 --> 01:01:44.025. Maybe there should be a review 1649 01:01:44,025 --> 01:01:46.011 of the necessity for declaring 1650 01:01:46,011 --> 01:01:51.027 them in the first place.

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I 1651, 01:01:51,027, --> 01:01:54.016 would love to see a comparison, 1652 01:01:54,016 --> 01:01:56.026 between how the multichip 1653 01:01:56,026 --> 01:01:58.023 processes work today, both on 1654 01:01:58,023, -->, 01:02:00.017 paper and in practice, and how 1655 01:02:00,017 --> 01:02:01.025. They would work with the 1656 01:02:01,025 --> 01:02:03.000 proposed changes., and I want to 1657 01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05.023. Thank you very much for your 1658 01:02:05,023 --> 01:02:06.021 deliberation and your desire to 1659 01:02:06,021 --> 01:02:13.004, hear from the public share. 1660 01:02:13,004 -->, 01:02:15.027 yeah,.

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I just a couple of things: 1661 01:02:15,027, -->, 01:02:16.015, I'd like to add, is when you're 1662 01:02:16,015 --> 01:02:18.018 talking about the various types, 1663 01:02:18,018 --> 01:02:20.021 of emergencies. If you're going 1664, 01:02:20,021 --> 01:02:21.026 to be looking into this,, I 1665 01:02:21,026, --> 01:02:23.018 think we should make sure and 1666 01:02:23,018 --> 01:02:25.007 have the full scope of anything 1667 01:02:25,007, --> 01:02:27.026 that could happen.. I mean even 1668 01:02:27,026 --> 01:02:28.020.

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If we had a localized health, 1669 01:02:28,020 --> 01:02:30.017 emergency like covid, was 1670 01:02:30,017, -->, 01:02:33.006, obviously the whole world, but 1671 01:02:33,006, --> 01:02:35.018. If we had some type of health, 1672 01:02:35,018 -->, 01:02:38.027 emergency just started or was 1673 01:02:38,027 --> 01:02:40.019 in our city,.

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Somebody needs to 1674 01:02:40,019 --> 01:02:42.027 act and say who has powers over 1675 01:02:42,027 --> 01:02:43.017 health emergency, even though 1676 01:02:43,017, --> 01:02:45.004, maybe eventually the county or 1677 01:02:45,004 --> 01:02:47.001 something., but we need to know 1678, 01:02:47,001, --> 01:02:49.000, what our city, council, mayor or 1679 01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:51.028 captain for health, emergency 1680, 01:02:51,028, --> 01:02:51.026, and then I think the other 1681 01:02:51,026 --> 01:02:53.002 thing, there's other natural 1682, 01:02:53,002, -->, 01:02:55.019 disasters and things but 1683 01:02:55,019, --> 01:02:56.024. There's also. We got the airport 1684 01:02:56,024 -->, 01:02:58.027 here..

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What happens if a plane, 1685 01:02:58,027 -->, 01:03:00.025 crashes, here?, does into the 1686 01:03:00,025 --> 01:03:03.003 city take off for landing?, just 1687 01:03:03,003 --> 01:03:05.000. If you're examining things we 1688, 01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07.025 should say what powers does the 1689 01:03:07,025 --> 01:03:08.005 mayor have or not have even 1690 01:03:08,005 --> 01:03:11.025, though fire police that, but I 1691 01:03:11,025, --> 01:03:12.014, think are going to be involved.

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1692 01:03:12,014 --> 01:03:14.022, but I think we should just look 1693 01:03:14,022 --> 01:03:15.003 into the whole scope of all 1694 01:03:15,003 -->, 01:03:17.018 kinds of situations. If we're 1695, 01:03:17,018 --> 01:03:19.007 going to be studying something: 1696 01:03:19,007, --> 01:03:21.016 like this or making decisions. 1697 01:03:21,016 --> 01:03:24.025. That's that's my thanks to 1698 01:03:24,025 --> 01:03:28.023. The commission.- thank you.

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1699, 01:03:28,023, --> 01:03:30.003 and I just make recommendations: 1700 01:03:30,003 --> 01:03:32.011, the subcommittee to make sure 1701 01:03:32,011 --> 01:03:34.003 that we're super clear to the 1702 01:03:34,003 --> 01:03:37.016 public, about what the current 1703 01:03:37,016 --> 01:03:39.000 powers are of the city, manager, 1704 01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:41.025, including what types of 1705 01:03:41,025 --> 01:03:42.013 emergency, a city manager, can 1706 01:03:42,013 --> 01:03:45.027 call for so that we are clear: 1707 01:03:45,027, --> 01:03:46.005 about what we're talking about 1708 01:03:46,005, --> 01:03:48.011.

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In terms of is this a 1709 01:03:48,011 --> 01:03:50.022 difference for the mayor, 1710 01:03:50,022, -->, 01:03:51.010 position of the mayor or is 1711 01:03:51,010 --> 01:03:54.015, this just a substitution?, so I 1712 01:03:54,015, --> 01:03:55.022, think that's the only piece, 1713 01:03:55,022 --> 01:03:56.025 that to ask the subcommittee to 1714 01:03:56,025 --> 01:03:58.002 be really clear about because 1715 01:03:58,002 --> 01:04:00.011, I'm hearing from the public 1716 01:04:00,011, --> 01:04:02.027 about new powers or a different 1717 01:04:02,027 --> 01:04:03.004 light, and I believe the 1718 01:04:03,004 --> 01:04:05.017 commissions and the 1719 01:04:05,017 --> 01:04:06.023 subcommittees intent is only to 1720 01:04:06,023 --> 01:04:08.021 speak to the substitution of 1721 01:04:08,021 --> 01:04:10.020, the manager and the mayor in 1722, 01:04:10,020, -->, 01:04:12.000 terms of the same role that the 1723 01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:15.005 manager, plays only now being in 1724, 01:04:15,005, -->, 01:04:17.016, the hands of the mayor and the 1725 01:04:17,016 --> 01:04:18.029 mayor would have more 1726 01:04:18,029 --> 01:04:19.016 restrictions in terms going to 1727 01:04:19,016 -->, 01:04:22.012, council faster., but everything 1728, 01:04:22,012, --> 01:04:24.007 else is essentially the same as 1729 01:04:24,007 --> 01:04:26.018.

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It is currently in the charter- 1730 01:04:26,018, -->, 01:04:28.002 and currently in protocol just 1731 01:04:28,002 --> 01:04:30.005, so that we're super clear about 1732, 01:04:30,005, --> 01:04:34.021 that and the power of the of 1733 01:04:34,021 --> 01:04:36.022. The mayor. A role in this I 1734 01:04:36,022 --> 01:04:37.024 think is the other piece that 1735 01:04:37,024 --> 01:04:38.002. We just want to make sure that 1736 01:04:38,002 --> 01:04:40.024 we're really clear about in the 1737 01:04:40,024 --> 01:04:41.016 memo so that when we are in the 1738, 01:04:41,016 --> 01:04:43.005. Debate of this.

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Allow me the 1739, 01:04:43,005 -->. 01:04:45.027. Last comment is that we will be 1740 01:04:45,027, --> 01:04:46.020, debating these things again: 1741 01:04:46,020 --> 01:04:49.028, once we do in the voting piece. 1742 01:04:49,028, --> 01:04:50.029, so we're hearing from the 1743 01:04:50,029 --> 01:04:52.013 public, but I do anticipate a 1744 01:04:52,013 --> 01:04:55.005, very lively discussion among 1745 01:04:55,005 --> 01:04:57.007, the commission around when we 1746 01:04:57,007 --> 01:04:58.026, started looking at taking 1747 01:04:58,026 --> 01:04:59.016 actions that needs to fairly 1748 01:04:59,016 --> 01:05:01.016 make recommendations. I'd.

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1749 01:05:01,016 --> 01:05:02.004 encourage members of the public 1750 01:05:02,004 --> 01:05:04.018, to continue to engage with us. 1751 01:05:04,018 --> 01:05:05.000. We really appreciate your 1752 01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:09.023 participation.. We will also be 1753 01:05:09,023 --> 01:05:10.023, having this discussion again at 1754 01:05:10,023 --> 01:05:12.012 the commission meeting and does 1755 01:05:12,012 --> 01:05:14.006. The clerk have anything last 1756 01:05:14,006 --> 01:05:18.015 items for us? no,. We just have 1757 01:05:18,015, -->, 01:05:19.008, open forum., that's what I 1758 01:05:19,008 --> 01:05:21.020 was going to ok.

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So at this 1759 01:05:21,020 --> 01:05:22.025 point we are going to have a 1760 01:05:22,025 --> 01:05:24.000 public comment on any item that 1761 01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26.002. The public wishes to address 1762 01:05:26,002 --> 01:05:27.003. That is pertinent to this 1763 01:05:27,003 -->, 01:05:29.013, commission and we'll ask the 1764 01:05:29,013 --> 01:05:30.009 clerk to call the first speaker, 1765 01:05:30,009, -->, 01:05:36.027, again commissioners,. I have 1766 01:05:36,027 --> 01:05:39.012, a correction to my comment.

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I 1767 01:05:39,012 --> 01:05:41.001 have forgotten to mention so on 1768 01:05:41,001, --> 01:05:43.027, the and thank you, fred for 1769 01:05:43,027, --> 01:05:44.019, clarifying on the powers of the 1770 01:05:44,019 --> 01:05:46.027 mayor, and where that power 1771 01:05:46,027 --> 01:05:48.012, should lie.. I wouldn't say that 1772 01:05:48,012, --> 01:05:50.027 it should automatically go to 1773 01:05:50,027 --> 01:05:51.016, the mayor. I feel like there 1774 01:05:51,016 --> 01:05:55.013 needs to be more study on how 1775 01:05:55,013 --> 01:05:58.012.

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We react in an emergency and 1776 01:05:58,012, --> 01:06:00.027 having just one person who 1777 01:06:00,027, --> 01:06:01.001, doesn't have the disaster. 1778 01:06:01,001 -->, 01:06:04.004 training that should be 1779, 01:06:04,004 --> 01:06:06.028, probably mandatory of anybody. 1780 01:06:06,028 --> 01:06:07.029, who is the who is going to be 1781, 01:06:07,029, -->, 01:06:09.024, making emergency declarative, 1782, 01:06:09,024, -->, 01:06:11.025, decisions that affect the 1783 01:06:11,025, -->, 01:06:15.024, public and our safety, and so on. 1784 01:06:15,024, --> 01:06:17.027, who holds these powers and 1785 01:06:17,027 --> 01:06:19.014 how they are used?.

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I don't 1786 01:06:19,014 --> 01:06:21.018 agree that it should be just 1787, 01:06:21,018, --> 01:06:22.010, the mayor.. I feel like we 1788 01:06:22,010 --> 01:06:24.002, really need to look into our 1789 01:06:24,002 --> 01:06:26.008 emergency plan and what is the 1790 01:06:26,008 --> 01:06:28.015 best way to come together to 1791 01:06:28,015 --> 01:06:29.017 make a decision during an 1792 01:06:29,017 --> 01:06:30.007 emergency and make sure that 1793 01:06:30,007 --> 01:06:32.000. Everyone has taken care, of. and 1794 01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:34.003.

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So thank you for this open 1795, 01:06:34,003, --> 01:06:36.005 forum and thank you again for 1796 01:06:36,005 --> 01:06:37.015, this public hearing on a 1797 01:06:37,015 --> 01:06:41.021 saturday morning. pat richards 1798, 01:06:41,021, -->, 01:06:47.021, . hello.. I live in district, one 1799 01:06:47,021, --> 01:06:49.029 and thanks for the opportunity. 1800 01:06:49,029 --> 01:06:51.015. I wanted to speak to an item: 1801 01:06:51,015, -->, 01:06:53.027 unrelated to the policing and 1802 01:06:53,027 --> 01:06:55.002 municipal law, item on the 1803 01:06:55,002 --> 01:06:58.012 agenda. So so in our 1804 01:06:58,012 --> 01:06:59.025 neighborhood.

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We have an ongoing 1805, 01:06:59,025 --> 01:07:01.009 problem where there's someone 1806 01:07:01,009 --> 01:07:04.019. Looking for business selling, 1807 01:07:04,019, -->, 01:07:05.026 vehicles,, often commercial 1808, 01:07:05,026, -->, 01:07:08.026 vehicles and vehicles are are 1809. 01:07:08,026 --> 01:07:10.024, often unregistered and they're 1810 01:07:10,024, --> 01:07:13.022 parked on the street and then 1811 01:07:13,022, --> 01:07:16.020 it it's it's being run by 1812 01:07:16,020 --> 01:07:17.011, someone that lives with the 1813 01:07:17,011 -->, 01:07:19.015, neighbor and neighbors have 1814 01:07:19,015. --≫ 01:07:23.028 asked them to stop doing that.

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1815 01:07:23,028 --> 01:07:25.012, but and it abates., but then it 1816, 01:07:25,012, --> 01:07:27.026 comes back.. So it's a recurring 1817, 01:07:27,026, -->, 01:07:30.000 problem and sometimes there's 1818 01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:32.002 maintenance being done on the 1819 01:07:32,002 --> 01:07:35.004 vehicles on the street. There 1820 01:07:35,004, --> 01:07:37.015 was a school bus for quite a 1821 01:07:37,015 --> 01:07:38.023 few weeks that got moved 1822, 01:07:38,023, -->, 01:07:40.003 around.. It's not there.

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This 1823 01:07:40,003 --> 01:07:43.001 morning, but there is a black 1824 01:07:43,001 --> 01:07:45.019, bmw with no plates parked on 1825 01:07:45,019, --> 01:07:46.005, the street and we've we've 1826 01:07:46,005 --> 01:07:48.029 contacted three one one, but 1827 01:07:48,029 --> 01:07:50.028. They they say it's not it's 1828 01:07:50,028 --> 01:07:52.001 there anyway. they they don't 1829 01:07:52,001 --> 01:07:55.015. Take any action.. I realize that 1830 01:07:55,015 --> 01:07:57.025 there. They probably have a lot 1831 01:07:57,025 --> 01:07:59.017 of work to do, but but this is 1832 01:07:59,017 --> 01:08:01.023 an ongoing problem..

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So we were 1833 01:08:01,023 --> 01:08:04.000 wondering what what is the 1834 01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:07.011 right way to get this address? 1835 01:08:07,011 --> 01:08:12.020? What should we do?? That was the 1836 01:08:12,020 --> 01:08:14.003 final speaker and give it to 1837 01:08:14,003 --> 01:08:16.002 members of the public again for 1838 01:08:16,002, --> 01:08:17.001, engaging with us., and I 1839 01:08:17,001 --> 01:08:18.027 appreciate my fellow 1840 01:08:18,027 --> 01:08:18.008 commissioners. Being here on a 1841 01:08:18,008 --> 01:08:20.000 saturday morning..

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We were 1842 01:08:20,000, -->, 01:08:23.028 adjourned until our monday 1843 01:08:23,028 --> 01:08:24.003, regular commission meeting and 1844 01:08:24,003 --> 01:08:26.010. We invite you all to join us. 1845, 01:08:26,010, -->, 01:08:27.000 then. thank you. and have a 1846 01:08:27,000, --> 01:08:28,010 great weekend.,.