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City of San José, California
City Council Budget Study Session of May 13,, 2021, Morning
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J
Yeah,
so
I
think
mayor,
thank
you.
I
think
now
we
jump
in
directly
into
the
different
sections,
no
presentations,
so
we're
taking
comments
or
questions
of
course,
and
so
jim.
The
first
section
is
ced.
Is
that
correct,
correct.
D
D
Section
council,
member
davis.
L
Thank
you
mayor.
I
had
a
question
about
hold
on.
Let
me
get
there.
I
know
I
did.
I
just
didn't.
Have
it
up,
I
didn't
realize
we
were
going
to
get
here
so
fast.
L
The
business
development
and
economic
strategy
budget
is
proposed
to
be
cut
by
about
a
million
dollars,
and
I
understand
workforce
development
and
totally
support
workforce
development
almost
doubling
their
budget,
but
it
would
seem
to
me
that
business
development
and
economic
strategy
is
at
least
as
important
to
this
year
as
it
was
last
year,
if
not
more
so
so
I'd
like
to
hear
about
that-
and
maybe
it's
coming
out
of
it's
going
to
be
in
a
different
part
of
the
budget
or
something
like
that.
It
won't
be
in
the
general
fund.
K
K
This
is
jim,
shannon
budget
director.
Can
you
point
me
to
the
page:
I'm
just
gonna
look
at
it
real
fast.
K
L
K
A
moment
you're
looking
at
probably
look
at
the
program
budget.
Let
me
just
sort
of-
and
it
was
it
was
business
outreach
and
assistance.
K
L
K
D
Anything
further,
that's
it!
Thank
you.
Okay,
great
any
other
questions
on
ced
I
I
just
had
one
which
relates
to
the
11
positions
in
planning
and
building
that
are
referenced
on
page
roman
numeral,
7-13,
seven
positions
that
are
being
eliminated.
D
I
know
that
there
aren't
any
layoffs
this
year,
which
is
a
great
thing
that
can
you
tell
me
if
the
positions
are
being
limited?
We
know
we
have
a
tremendous
needs
in
different
parts
of
that
department
where
we
have
been
so
short-handed
in
the
past
and
unable
to
keep
up
with
the
backlog,
for
example.
On
permitting
can
can
you
give
me
a
sense
of
those
individuals
being
redeployed
in
other
parts
or
of
this,
or
are
these
vacancies
that
are
being
eliminated
and
I'm
just
wondering
are?
D
Are
we
able
to
use
this
as
an
opportunity
to
fill
some
gaps
to
address
long-standing
human
resource
shortages.
K
Let
me
first
check
to
see
if
chu
or
anybody
else
from
pvce
is
on
the
call
yet,
or
I
jump
in
to
answer
that
one.
J
K
They
are
so
yeah,
so
this
is
primarily
related
to
so
when
we
implemented
some
of
the
tech
technology
to
receive
the
plans
digitally
there's
a
number
of
positions
some
are
vacant
about.
K
I
think
about
half
of
them
about
six
positions
are
vague
and
five
places
are
filled
that
will
be
deployed
elsewhere
in
the
department,
and
so
it's
really
looking
at
the
service
level
that
was
being
provided
to
receive
and
scan
plans,
and
that
really
really
that
service
is
being
you
know,
effectively
implemented
by
some
of
the
technology
improvements
we've
done
over
the
past
couple
of
years,
so
redeploying
those
types
of
staff.
K
So
typically
those
are
office,
specialists
and
senior
office
specialists
staff
specialists
type
functions,
okay,
so
these
aren't
actually
inspect
right,
they're,
not
inspectors
and
they're,
not
plan
checkers.
I
got.
K
Correct
yeah,
so
I
think
those
of
the
I
think
there's
five
positions
there
that
are
built
so
they're
being
redeployed
in
other
vacancies.
Okay,
yeah.
B
K
L
Comments
mayor,
I
found
the
page
number.
M
K
K
And
councilmember,
I
think
so,
if
I
look
at
page
eight
roman
numeral
8-77,
that's
in
the
economic
development
cultural
affairs
department,
so
that
business
development
economic
strategy,
that's
a
core
service
within
that
department.
The
difference
is
mostly
in
the
business
outreach
and
assistance
program
which
goes
from
adopted
a
5.7
to
4.0.
I
think
that's
one-time
funding
coming
out,
so
we're
gonna
go
probably
have
time
here.
We'll
go!
Look
at
what
we
had
in
last
year's
budget
in
that
program
and
then
I
think
that's
what's
going
on.
K
K
It
so
it
is
roman
numeral
8-77,
so
we'll
we'll
go,
pull
the
data
to
see
at
a
more
detailed
level
where
the
difference
is.
I
do
see
we
have
a
5.7
for
adopted,
we
have
a
forecast
of
4.9
and
then
a
4.0
for
proposed,
so
we'll
go
see
where
the
changes
are.
E
E
Yeah,
yes,
council
member,
thank
you
so
much.
We
are
working
closely
with
jim
based
on
finding
out
how
how
much
comes
from
the
stimulus
or
state
funds,
and
we
have
made
requests
for
business
recovery,
small
business
and
individual
recovery
out
of
that
money.
Once
we
know
what
it
is
for,
just
that
those
sets
of
purposes
both
for
work
to
future
and
some
of
the
work
we're
doing
on
jobs
out
of
the
business
development
team,
as
well
as
small
business
recovery.
E
Yes
and
assistance
to
with
matching
dollars
from
the
eda
grant
to
help
strengthen
other
small
business
organizations.
Okay,
fishing,
as
opposed
to
eating
the
fish.
K
Yeah,
I
think,
there's
also
some
nuance
there.
I
think
the
business
district
management
is
also
a
new
program,
and
so
I'm
talking
to
staff
right
right
now,
so
I
think
some
of
the
funding
that
was
in
some
of
these
other
programs
are
now
shown
in
business,
district
management,
and
so
that's
part
of
of
what's
going
on.
If
you
look
in
the
earlier
1920
actuals
in
2021
adopted,
there's
zero
dollars
there
for
business
district
management.
So
I
think
that's
a
bigger
part
of
this
good
part
of
the
story.
There.
D
All
right,
given
the
fact
we
seem
to
be
moving
along
at
a
faster
clip
than
expected.
Why
don't?
Why
don't
I
take
questions
from
the
public
on
this
section
and
then
we'll
come
back
to
the
next
section?
Is
that
right,
dave,
yeah
that'd
be
great?
Thank
you,
mayor.
Okay,
great
all,
right,
questions
from
the
public
on
and
we're
talking
about,
the
entire
community
economic
development
service
area
is
that
right
that
include
housing,
economic
development?
That's
correct
cultural
affairs!
D
All
right!
If
there
are
any
questions
from
the
public
on
any
of
those
items
in
the
budget,
we'll
be
happy
to
take
them
now.
Comments,
okay,
we'll
keep
going
then
and
we'll
come
back
to
public
comment
at
the
end
as
well,
so
give
the
public
a
chance
then
as
well,
so
all
right.
What's
our
next
service
area.
D
All
right
everybody
understands
what's
in
public
safety,
so
that's
police,
fire
emergency
services.
Questions
from
my
colleagues.
G
Yeah
thanks
mayor-
and
this
is
based
on
obviously
some
of
the
recent
news
and
feedback
we've
been
getting
from
our
reimagining
community
safety
process,
and
I
know
we're
going
to
have
a
conversation
next
week,
an
update
in
conversation
at
fizzviz
or
the
public
safety
finance
strategic
support
committee,
and
so
you
know
that
may
be
the
more
appropriate
time
to
have
that
conversation.
But
I
am
curious
what
the
city
manager's
office
is
thinking
in
regards
to
you
know
is
that
process
gonna
need
some.
G
You
know
more
allocated
resources
specifically
based
on
kind
of
the
trajectory
of
where
we
think
the
conversation
will
go
next,
thursday.
On
on
how
that
process
may
shift.
J
J
Some
of
the
committee
members
are
looking
for,
I
think,
a
complete
scope,
change
and
a
format
change,
but
I
don't
know
if
that
really
translates
to
additional
resources.
So
what
what
are
your
thoughts
on
that
angel.
B
Yeah
dave
thanks
yeah,
so
councilmember
yeah
this
on
the
20th
may
20th.
We
will
be
going
to
pisfizz
providing
pizzfizz
an.
D
B
B
Are
we're
going
to
also
report
out
on
the
additional
feedback
that
we've
been
receiving
kind
of
at
the
core
of
this
issue
is
really
the
desire
by
many
on
the
advisory
group
to
really
have
a
more
substantial
focus
on
police
reform.
The
re,
the
reimagining
scope
that
we
that
we've
been
working
under
doesn't
necessarily
address
police
reform
straight
on,
and
so
that's
really
at
the
gist
of
kind
of
at
the
root
of
this
issue,
and
so
based
on
the
conversation
that
we
have
with
his
fizz.
B
You
know
we
do
want
to
entertain.
You
know
a
few
ideas
and
get
feedback
from
the
subcommittee
cross-references
to
council
and
then
at
that
point,
depending
on
where
council
wants
to
go
with,
this
that'll
really
inform
whether
we
need
more
resources
or
not.
G
Okay,
so
so-
and
that's
was
my
thinking
was
that,
based
on
the
conversation
thursday,
we
may
determine,
if
there's
a
need
for
more
resources,
but
as
of
now
it's
not
the
city
manager's,
I
guess
intent
to
be
to
be
allocating
more
safe
to
say
you,
you
believe,
angel,
that
there
are
significant
enough
resources
right
now
to
complete
the
the
rematching
process
that
we
were
working
on.
Is
that
true.
B
Yeah,
so
the
resources
yeah
yeah,
based
on
this,
the
current
scope
that
we're
operating
under
I
do
believe
that
we're
resourced
properly.
If
should,
should
this
change
and
and
the
scope
expand,
then
we
definitely
would
need
more
resources.
Yes,.
G
Okay-
and
I
think
you
know,
based
on
obviously
what
we've
been
talking
about,
angel
and
with
city
manager
just
stated,
and
I
think
what
we
all
understand
we
probably
are
in
line
for
a
reset,
and
you
know
I
think
that
in
that
light
we
need
to
be
thinking
about
the
likelihood
of
resourcing
whatever
this
reset
looks
like
adequately
and-
and
that
would
be
my
interest,
and
so
I
think
what
we
can
do
is
we
can
obviously
hash
this
out
a
little
bit
more
next
thursday
after
we
discuss
you
know
what
that
looks
like
and
then
be
able
to
to
come
back,
maybe
with
an
mba
or,
if
not,
then,
maybe
something
that
you
know
myself
or
somebody
else
can
be
able
to
propose
that
hey,
let's,
let's
resource
this,
this
next
stage
of
the
process
or
this
reset
of
the
process
adequately,
so
that
that
way
we
can
actually,
you
know
complete
and
succeed
on
what
we
intended
to
do
with
really
getting
some
some
some
true
community
feedback
and
helping
guide
the
council
through
this
process.
D
All
right
council,
member
jimenez,
yeah.
B
Thank
you,
council,
member
paralysis.
For
that
question
very
good
question,
and
I
do
expect
that,
as
you
suggested,
if
there's
going
to
be
some
alteration
or
some
changes
as
it
relates
to
the
scope,
I
assume
that
we
need
to
obviously
start
thinking
about
resourcing
it
well.
My
question
was
was
different.
It
was
actually
related
to
the
police,
substation
and
I
jim.
I
know
I
brought
this
up
before,
but
I
was
trying.
Hopefully
you
could
refresh
my
memory
and
certainly
chief
mata.
If
you
have
any
thoughts
on
this
but
curious.
B
Some
years
back,
we
put
some
money
essentially
in
a
pot
for
the
eventual
opening
of
the
police
substation
off
in
my
district,
which
is
very
important
to
many
of
the
residents
that
I
represent
and.
B
B
Because
we
were
moving
things
around
and
trying
to
plug
other
holes,
which
was
totally
fine,
seemed
to
make
sense
to
me
what
I'm
curious
about
is:
how
are
we
going
about
filling
that
hole
back
up,
especially
now
that
we've
purchased
the
new
police
training
facility
location
that
has
yet
to
be
built
out?
How?
Where
is
that
money
gonna
come
from,
and
how
are
we
gonna
fill
that
hole
back
up
that
pot.
K
Yeah,
that's
a
good
question
councilmember,
so
so
correct
so
now
that
we
so
that
we
did
have
some
money
set
aside
as
part
of
our
previous
budget
cycle
kind
of
set.
That
aside
in
reserve
a
few
years
back,
I
think
I
believe
that
was
one
of
the
items
that
we
did
liquidate
to
resolve
our
shortfall
in
1920.
B
K
So,
yes,
but
so
that
powder
funding
was
was
used
to
resolve
the
1920
shortfall.
But
now
you
know
the
police
training
center
like
a
lot
of
the
other
public
safety
facilities.
It's
part
of
our
the
operations
of
it
are
part
of
our
ongoing
forecast
figures
and.
M
K
Of
the
so
we
have
that
as
part
of
our
ongoing
sort
of
general
fund
projections
on
an
operating
basis,
but
it's
also
on
our
schedule
for
ff
e
for
fixtures
furniture
and
equipment
that
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
find
one-time
funding
for
so
we
have.
We
have
some
of
the
ffme
set
aside
for
some
of
the
fire
stations,
the
police
training
center's
a
little
bit
farther
out.
K
So
we
don't
have
that
question
yet,
but
it's
on
our
mind
for
sure,
but
I
think
also
our
o
m-
that's
assumed
in
the
forecast
is
inclusive
of
both
the
operation
of
the
police
training
center
and
the
full
activation
of
the
sub
substation.
So
both
of
those
are
sort
of
built
into
our
five-year
projections.
N
B
B
So
the
replenishment
of
that
fund
is
gonna.
The.
B
What
you're
saying
jim
is
it's
on
your
radar
there's
other
things
we're
doing
in
a
few
years
or
because
I
understand
the
timing
is
is
important
as
well
right.
We
want
to
time
it
have
that
money
there
when
that
police
training
facility
actually
opens
up-
and
I
know
that's
going
to
be
several
years
out
so.
A
K
K
K
B
Much
just
again
to
reiterate
just
the
importance
of
opening
that
up
finally
to
the
public
is
very
much
on
my
mind
in
the
mind
of
many
of
the
residents
I
represent.
You
know
it
certainly
hasn't
been
open
for
public
use
in
its
truest
sense,
since
it's
been
built
many
years
since
it
was
built
many
years
ago.
So,
looking
forward
to
that,
thank
you.
D
All
right,
thank
you,
council,
member
cohen,.
C
Yeah,
thank
you
back.
When
we
were
discussing
the
audit
of
the
police
budget,
we
had
a
conversation
about
the
trade-offs
between
overtime
and
staffing.
I
know
that
you
know.
One
of
the
answers
is
that
clearly
you
know
we
pay
more
potentially
by
hiring
a
staff
to
replace
the
amount
of
overtime,
but
we
did,
I
think,
at
the
time
there
was
some
some
talk
of
considering
how
we
might
transition
to
a
few
more
full-time
staff
this
year,
rather
than
relying
so
much
on
overtime.
Is
there
any
of
that
built
into
the
budget?
K
Well,
thanks
customer
I'll
start
with
that
one.
So
we
have
that.
We
owe
you
an
mba
on
that
on
that
topic.
So
that's
one
of
the
ones
we
we
wanted
to
get
out
as
soon
as
we
could
unfortunately
didn't
get
it
out
by
to
today.
So
we
will
provide
that
analysis
for
your
consideration
for
sure
you
know
you
know,
for
this
budget
you're
in
the
immediate
future.
You
know
we
we
spend
more
and
over
time
than
we
have
budgeted,
you
know
primarily
to
backfill
for
the
vacancies.
K
So
I
think
that
decision
point
about
substituting
overtime
for
positions
will
probably
come
along
when
we,
when
the
overtime
spending
comes
down
right
now,
we
don't
have
a
way
to
offset
that
from
a
budgetary
basis,
but
but
when
that
does
become
closer,
it
will
become
a
much
more
important
question
to
see.
Okay
well,
how
much
overtime
could
we
trade
in
for
an
actual
full-time
sworn
position,
so
we'll
make
sure
to
give
you
that
analysis,
just
not
quite
there
yet
within
the
mva.
J
Yeah
and
if
I
could
just
add
in
so
and
maybe
kind
of
just
re-emphasize
or
emphasize
what
jim
said,
certainly
appreciate
and
understand
the
concept
that
we're
talking
about
here
and
the
kind
of
the
common
sense
kind
of
nature
of
it,
we're
so
far
out
of
whack
on
our
overtime
in
terms
of
you
know,
exceeding
our
budget
that
there's
no
there's
no
way
to
kind
of
really
right
now
get
to
savings
because
we're
we're
over
budget.
J
So
anything
we
bring
down
we're
still
not
even
getting
to
the
root
of
the
issue
and
then
the
the
actual
issue
itself
is
fairly
complex
in
terms
of
of
how
that
would
work.
So
this
you
know,
obviously
don't
the
nba
we
got
kind
of
about
writing
on
it.
So
we're
not,
but
we're
not
dismissing
the
issue
and
we're
not
losing
track
of
it
for
sure.
I
just
want
to
reassure
you
that
we're
trying
to
work
through
it
and
bring
forward
something
that
kind
of
makes
sense
for
everybody.
C
I
appreciate
that-
and
I
I
guess
part
of
this
is
also
getting
through
a
few
more
police
academy
classes
that
actually
fill
some
of
those
for
those
vacancies
before
we
can
get
to
that
point
is
that
is
that
the
idea.
K
Correct
so
yeah,
so
as
as
we
you
know,
we've
been
having
a
long
for
a
number
of
years,
we've
been
sort
of
trying
to
catch
up
in
filling
the
positions
that
we
have
budgeted.
I
think
we're
getting
a
lot
closer
there
with
a
higher
ahead
program
that
we
have
is
is
established.
K
You
know
when
you
look
at
the
number
of
actually
you
know
street
race
warm
positions
and
at
any
given
time
it's
certainly
higher
than
it
was
several
years
ago,
but
it's
still
a
little
bit
of
ways
to
go,
and
so
that's
why
the
overtime
dollars
are
so
high
is
because
we're
sort
of
you
know
backfilling
well,
a
lot
of
it
is
backfilling
for
those
positions
that
maybe
are
filled
they're,
not
quite
yet
street
ready
because
it
takes
a
while
to
get
the
an
officer
up
to
be
able
to
be
deployed
so
yeah.
C
D
You
thank
you,
council,
member
foley,.
O
O
Oh
all
right
it
doesn't
it
doesn't
matter
anyway.
I
have
three
areas
I
want
to
just
inquire
about.
One
has
to
do
with
the
fire
department,
I'm
really
looking
forward
to
fire
station
37.
Opening
up.
That's
that'll
be
great
and
increased
staffing.
As
a
result
of
that,
I'm
wondering
in
the
budget.
If
there
is
any
recruitment
dollars
that
we
will
be
since
we're
be
going
to
be
expanding
our
services.
Are
we
going
to
be
allocating
any
additional
funds
for
recruitment.
K
We
don't
have
any
additional
funding
for
recruitment
in
the
budget.
I
don't
believe
there,
but
I
I'll
let
that
fire
department
be
able
to
speak
to
the
efforts
to
add
positions
for
that
new
company.
B
What
we
did
is
we
proposed
a
civilianization
strategy
that
would
take
part
of
our
hr
units
workload
and
move
it
under
a
new
program,
giving
more
capacity
to
our
hr
personnel
to
focus
more
on
recruitment
and
again,
certainly,
there's
there's
opportunity
for
us
to
invest
more
and
do
more.
But
given
the
the
conditions
that
we
were
under,
we
were
looking
for
a
mechanism
to
get
there,
and
I
think
we
did.
O
Great
thank
you
for
the
response
chief.
I
appreciate
it
and
you-
and
I
have
had
this
conversation
about
recruitment
and
how
important
it
is.
I
know
we're
probably
you're,
probably
facing
a
number
of
retirements
in
the
next
year
and
and
that's
of
concern,
as
well
as
the
increased
fire
station
and
expansion
of
station
20..
O
Also,
I
wanted
to
know
if,
in
the
budget
or
in
those
efforts,
those
hiring
efforts,
will
you
be
focused
on
female
firefighters
at
all,
as
it
was
in
response
to
the
grand
jury
report.
B
Yes,
thank
you
for
that
as
well.
We
intend
to
continue
providing
our
annual
boot
camp
and
we
are
right
now
working
on
a
few
items
that
came
up
recently
under
the
grand
jury
report
to
to
work
on
working
conditions
as
well.
But
certainly
you
know,
the
good
news
is
we.
We
have
a
little
bit
of
space
in
that
we
have
an
active
academy
right
now.
B
We
won't
be
recruiting
our
next
class,
we
believe
until
the
fall
or
or
onboarding
our
next
class
until
the
fall,
and
we
have
a
pretty
robust
eligibility
list
right
now.
That
offers,
I
think,
a
great
deal
of
diversity.
So
we
do
have
some
time
in
terms
of
planning
our
next
new
recruitment.
O
O
Can
you
tell
me
if
there's
any
dollars
or
if
you're,
considering
allocating
any
of
your
budget
to
increase
the
traffic
enforcement
unit.
I
H
O
I
Member
yeah,
there
is
yeah,
so
I
know
there's
a
budget
document
for
that
and
that
currently
we
have
vacancies
in
that
unit.
So
we
need
to
fill
those
vacancies.
I
However,
as
been
mentioned
just
previously,
is
that
we,
as
the
officers
get
released
from
or
to
street
ready
that's
one
of
the
units
that
we'll
be
back
filling
right
now,
it's
to
maintain
our
patrol
officers
to
respond
to
calls
and
then,
more
importantly,
as
well
as
we
have
a
couple
of
vacancies
in
the
investigations
units
such
as
burglary
and
also
assaults
so
again,
we're
as
the
officers
are
released.
I
O
Thank
you.
Can
you
tell
me
how
many
officers
you
have
in
the
teu
unit
right
now,
you
said
your.
L
I
Promotions
too
yeah,
so
we
have,
let's
see
currently
we
have
well.
This
is
an
old
staffing
report
and
I
may
ask
it's
okay
to
jump
in.
We
we're
authorized
30
in
traffic
enforcement
unit,
and
this
this
is
as
of
looked
at
a
report
as
the
march
5th
2021.,
and
so
we
have
looks
like
we
have
23
officers
there.
O
I
The
actual
number
right
well
after
this
budget,
I
think
we
were
at
11,
59
and
lisa
or
jim.
If
you
can
correct
me
on
that,
and
I
know
we
with
the
civilization
we're
going
to
be
down
six
from
from
that
number.
I
I
I'm
gonna
see
if
lisa
perez
is
on
here.
I
think
she
runs
our
personnel.
N
O
Okay,
very
good
that
that
helps
me.
Thank
you
and
finally-
and
I'm
not
sure
I
guess
cert
is
that
under
who
administers
the
cert
to
cert
program
city.
I
C
O
Okay,
so
I'm
wondering
you
know
that
seems
to
be
a
really
effective
program
and
utilized
quite
a
bit.
Is
there
any
plans?
You
have
any
plans
to
expand
those
volunteers
that
that's
a
great
way
to
use
some
of
our
residents
who
are
very
committed
to
the
cert
program
and
volunteering?
Is
there
any
thought
or
consideration
about
volunteering
or
increasing.
P
Yeah
council
member
for
this
is
jay
mcamis
from
oem
ray,
is
actually
taking
so
much
needed
time
off
good
for
him
yeah.
So,
yes,
we
definitely
have
plans
on
expanding
the
program
in.
B
Fact
we
have
a
a
class
that
is
being
conducted
right
now
and
we
have
plans
for
more.
We
shifted
funding
from
a
vacant
grant
position
to
make
our
our
program.
Cert
program
managers
managers,
position
full-time.
It
was
previously
funded
by
a
couple
of
different
funding
sources
and
we
felt
that
it
was
important
to
keep
that
as
a
permanent
position.
B
We
trained,
I
would
have
to
get
those
exact
numbers
to
you.
We
trained
a
couple
hundred
in
the
last
about
year
and
a
half
we've
been
working
virtually
so
it
took
us
a
little
while
to
put
together
a
virtual
training
package,
but
we
currently
have
28
folks
in
the
in
the
current
class.
Ongoing
each
class
runs
a
couple
of
months.
O
D
O
D
L
Thank
you
and
I
want
to
thank
councilmember
foley
for
her
questions.
She
asked
a
couple
of
questions
that
I
had
and
ones
that
I
didn't
even
think
of
so
you're.
All
good
councilmember
foley
wanted
to
understand
the
on
again
looking
at
the
city
service
area.
Budget
summary,
that's
roman
numeral
7-51
for
the
police
department
want
to
understand,
what's
in
strategic
support
for
other
public
safety,
strategic
support
for
public
safety,
because
those
are
both
decreasing
and
then
from
the
2021
adopted
budget
and
then
the
respond
to
calls
for
service
and
patrol
support.
L
I
understand
that
strategic
support,
I'm
guessing
is
where
the
civilianization
comes
in,
and
I
saw
the
savings
for
those,
but
it
didn't
add
up
to
the
about
7
million
difference
and-
and
I
know
that
we're
also
increasing
the
number
of
positions
for
responding
to
pras
and
data
data
requests.
So
I
just
want
to
know,
what's
in
in
the
strategic
support,
other
public
safety
and
strategic
support
kind
of
just
in
general,
versus
the
respond
to
calls
for
service
and
patrol
support.
L
So
that's
kind
of
a
big
long
question
and
then
a
shorter
one
while
you're
thinking
about
that
is.
This
is
for
jim.
Is
the
new
contract?
Are
the
new
contract
numbers
included
in
this
budget,
or
will
that
be
an
mba
and
it's
possible?
I
missed
the
mba
for
that.
K
I
think
council
never
know
so
just
to
ask
your
last
question
first,
so
this
the
police
budget
does
not
show
that
that
that
contracts
we
have
funding
in
the
salaries
and
benefits
reserve,
which
is
shown
in
a
different
section
of
the
budget.
This
is
without
that
cost
built
in.
L
K
I
think
that's
just
part
of
their
base
overall
cost
increase
of
primarily
there.
I'm
trying
to
get
look
at
the
other
student
support
public
safety.
Looking
through
the
budget
programs
there
to
get
a
handle
on
it.
K
There's
the
the
so
the
the
state
section
does
a
good
job
so
summarizing
it
by
the
forest
service
and
then
in
the
department
section.
It
breaks
it
down
in
the
program
level.
So
I'm
looking
on
page
roman
numeral,
8
311
of
the
police
department
budget,
which
then
sort
of
breaks
down
within
the
strategic
support
categories,
the
different
levels
of
programs
within
there.
So
just
taking
a
little
peek.
I
think
there
was
a
city-wide
appropriation
there
that
went
down.
L
And
what
I'm
really
trying
to
get
at
is
what
you
know
what
services
are
being,
how
how
will
the
residents
be
impacted
by
that,
because
it's
a
seven
million
dollar
difference
on
the
strategic
support
other
and
then
the
the
regular
strategic
support
it
was
a,
I
think,
a
two
million
dollar
difference,
so
I'm
just
trying
to
get
a
sense
of
you
know.
What's
what
are
we
missing
here.
K
I'm
looking
at
what
staff
is
showing
here,
I
think,
there's
a
variance
in
one
of
the
special
funds,
not
part
of
the
normal
police
department
operations.
So
we'll
we'll.
Do
you
guys
it's
a
good
question,
so
you're
stumping
us
so
we'll
dig
in
there
to
see
where
that
difference
is
because
you
know
generally,
if
we're
changing
a
level
of
service,
we
would
write
about
that
in
the
following
pages
on
roman
numeral,
eight
314
and
onward.
K
I
I
had
joined
the
follow-up,
I
mean
it
may
be
related
to
well.
No
councilman
davis
also
had
the
same
question
regarding
to
you.
I
just
wanted
to
go
back
to
councilman
foley's.
The
number
that
had
provided
the
30
was
authorized
for
teu
total
authorized,
so
we
have
authorized
one
lieutenant
six
sergeants
and
23
officers,
but
we
actually
have
one
lieutenant
two
sergeants
and
twelve
officers.
Currently
I
apologize
for.
D
D
P
D
Can
I
just
clarify
that
a
bit
chief
as
we
look
at
the
total
vacancies
department
wide,
because
I
know
we're
getting
pretty
close
to
our
total
authorized
positions?
You
just
compare
the
number
of
vacancies
we
have
department-wide
with.
What's
in
tu,.
N
N
In
if
I
can
jump
in
this
is
lisa
perez.
I
think
I
think
what
you
see
is
the
difference
between
the
actual
vacancies
and
what
like
we're
reporting
in
teu
as
vacant
is
because
we
have
so
many
people
in
training.
So
while
our
filled
sworn
positions
that
are
11
39,
we
still
have
85
in
the
academy
and
41
in
fto.
N
D
D
Q
Thanks
mayor
and
good
morning,
everyone
you
know,
I
I
wanted
to
ask
kind
of
a
higher
level
process.
Question
is
this
is
my
first
time
going
going
through
this
process
with
everyone
appreciate
the
level
of
detail,
I
think
councilmember
davis
had
some
pretty
impressive
questions
there.
Q
So
I
gotta
up
my
analysis,
game
good
work
that
you
know
the
higher
level
question
I'm
just
trying
to
get
my
head
around
is
is
how
we
can
be
and
to
what
extent,
we're
being
really
outcome
driven
here
and
so,
as
I'm
going
through
these
csas,
and
I
think
I
could
ask
this
process
question
for
any
of
the
the
csas.
I
mean
it's
not
specific
to
public
safety
necessarily
but
I'll.
Just
use
an
example.
Q
So
I'm
looking
at
the
dashboard
on,
of
course,
I
love
dashboards,
so
roman
numeral
749
on
the
on
the
summary
for
public
safety,
and
we
have
our
priority.
One
calls
priority
two
calls
what
our
target
is
and
where
our
performance
is-
and
you
know
it's
something
that
came
up
for
me
a
lot
at
the
doors
when
I
was
talking
to
voters
just
some.
Q
You
know.
To
what
extent
should
we
expect
that
the
key
budget
actions
of
page
down
are
responsive
to
those
targets,
because
I'm
not
I'm
not
seeing
as
much
connective
tissue
as
I
would
assume-
and
I
understand
budget
limitations
and
all
the
rest,
but
I'm
I'm
trying
to
understand
how
the
key
budget
actions
are
meant
to
drive
us
closer
to
those
targets,
and
I
don't
see
that
spelled
out
explicitly.
It's
not
clear
to
me
how
our
budget
decisions
are
actually
bets,
we're
making
to
move
us
closer
to
the
targets.
Q
I
can
kind
of
imagine
in
a
couple
of
cases,
but-
and
this
might
be
a
question
for
dave
just
overall
on
as
we
go
through
these
csa
summaries.
How
should
how
should
we
think
about
the
connection
there
I'd
I'd,
love
to
see
as
explicit
of
a
connection
as
possible,
but
what's
how
should
we
be
reading
this.
J
Yeah,
so
that's
a
good
question.
You
know,
I
think
I'm
gonna
talk
holistically
for
a
minute.
Yeah
too
I'll
just
say
you
know
a
lot
of
the
you
know.
We
have
the
dashboards.
We
have
targets,
we're
not
always
resourced
to
meet
the
targets
in
some
places
we
are
in
some
places.
J
We
aren't
you
know,
and
jim
can
probably
help
elaborate
on
that,
and
so
you
know
especially,
I
think
in
public
safety
is
an
area
where
I
I
think
we
would
safely
say
we're,
not
we're
not
resourced
to
meet
all
of
the
targets
that
we
have,
and
so
you
know,
but
you
can't
necessarily
it
doesn't
always
work
just
to
necessarily
set
the
targets
we're
at
what
you're
resourced,
because
we
obviously
are
expecting
better
and
wanting
to
do
better
and
doing
everything
we
can
to
do
better.
J
K
Yeah,
I
think,
obviously,
that's
very,
very
true-
and
I
think
you
know,
in
terms
of
you
know
some
of
the
budget
proposals
that
you
see
in
the
document
you
know,
and-
and
you
know,
police
is
maybe
a
good
one
in
particular,
where
you
know
some
of
the
key
performance
of
extras.
You
don't
see
proposals
to
add
you
know
sworn
sworn
staffing
here
that
would
ultimately
help
drive.
K
You
know
those
actuals
closer
to
the
to
the
target
is
like
they
said
because
of
the
massive
funding
constraints
that
we
have,
but
then
there
are
a
lot
of
other
things
that
maybe
are
sort
of
critical
to
the
core
of
the
of
the
departments
or
holes
that
we
need
to
sort
of
plug
that
often
come
up
as
budget
proposals.
So
a
good
one
for
police
in
particular,
is
the
amount
of
resources
that
we
need
to
allocate
for
public
records
requests.
K
That's
one
of
the
biggest
proposals
actually
in
police
for
2122
is
to
sort
of
you
know,
sort
of
plug
that
hole
which
we
have
to
do.
We
have
to
respond
to
what
is
legally
required
for
us
to
respond
to
these
records.
We
request
they
take
an
enormous
amount
of
resources
that
were,
you
know,
really
not
budget
for
an
on-time
basis
either
for
those.
So
you
know
like
they
said
fundamentally
in
a
lot
of
areas.
Q
Yeah
thanks,
I
appreciate
that
I
mean
I
and
I
think
council
obviously
has
a
really
important
role
to
play
and
helping
to
prioritize
and
highlight
which
of
those
metrics
are
most
important
and
kind
of
giving
that
overall
prioritization.
Q
I
think
what
would
be
helpful
to
me
at
least
would
be
to
understand
when
we're
when
we're
highlighting
key
budget
actions,
if
we
think
it's
gonna
affect
a
target
making
that
explicit
and-
and
I
totally
get
that
there
may
be
more
foundational
things
or
compliance
things
that
we
have
to
do,
and
so
I
get
that
not
every
budget
action
is
going
to
drive
closer
to
a
target
necessarily
or
it
might.
But
we
don't
know
that
or
we
can't
anticipate
that.
So
I
get
that
there's
some
some
complexity
there,
but
it
would.
Q
It
would
be
very
interesting
to
me
at
least
to
to
know
how
are
we
you
know.
To
what
extent
are
we
stack
ranking
these
targets
and
saying
which
ones
are
most
important?
I
mean
personally,
I
would
say
police
response
times
feel
very
high
priority
to
me
right
now
and
that's
what
I'm
hearing
from
my
residents
or
my
constituents.
But
you
know
some
understanding,
of
which
ones
do
we
think
are.
Q
Are
the
focus
in
in
this
budget
cycle
at
least
and
then,
which
budget
actions
are
actually
are
related
or
linked
to
moving
closer
to
a
target,
and
then
maybe
also
just
the?
I
think
what
dave
said
is
really
important.
You
know,
to
the
extent
that
we
can
say
hey.
We
think
this
is
an
important
target,
but
we're
not
resourced
to
meet
it
or
we're
not
sure
that
we're
resourced.
This
is
what
we
think
it
would
take.
I
think
a
little
more
of
that
clarity
and
being
a
little
more
explicit
about
those
trade-offs.
Q
I
would
find
incredibly
valuable.
Otherwise,
I
think
we're
just
kind
of
all
doing
our
best
here
to
try
to
suss
out
okay,
which
of
these
bets
are
actually
which
of
these
investments
are
actually
going
to
contribute
toward
the
goals
that
we
all
want
to
see.
But
I
think-
and
this
is
obviously
you
know
we're
pretty
far
along
in
the
process-
and
I
I
respect
that-
and
so
you
know-
maybe
maybe
some
of
this
is
kind
of
commentary
for
thinking
to
future
budget
cycles,
but
yeah.
Q
D
All
right,
thank
you,
councilmember,
and
I
really
appreciate
councilman
mayhem's
points
and
I
know
dave.
Do
you
want
to
respond
just
generally
about
how
we
might
be
reorienting
ourselves
over
the
next
year
toward
trying
to
establish
those
clear
goals
that
we
can
align
budgetary
actions
to.
J
Yeah
I
mean,
I
certainly
think
we
appreciate
the
the
points
made.
You
know
sorry,
I
I
do
think
you
know
so,
and,
and
certainly
the
councilmember
has
been
emphasizing
since
he's
come
on
board
in
terms
of
you
know
how
we
truly
get
to
a
place
of
prioritization.
That's
really
what
we're
talking
about
here.
J
I
do
think
that
you
know
the
road
map
process
we
went
through
was
actually
a
giant
leap
forward
for
us,
in
terms
of
you
know,
setting
priorities
but
then
kind
of
ranking.
Those
priorities
is
maybe
the
next
step
and
then
obviously
making
budgetary
decisions
around
those
priorities
is,
is
the
ultimate
step
and
yeah
we're
not
always
doing
that
at
all
in
our
current
process.
J
We're
we're
trying
to
cover
so
many
bases
with
such
lean
resources
that
that's
you
know,
that's
been
our
approach,
so
points
well
taken
and
obviously
we'll
have
to
think
through
how
we
can
take
the
next
step
from
the
roadmap
into
prioritization
and
and
ranking
those
priorities.
D
Yeah
fair
points:
okay,
thank
you.
Councilman
reinis,.
M
F
Thank
you
mayor.
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
around
the
sexual
assault
reserve
that
was
set
up
to
acknowledge
some
of
the
increase
of
sexual
assault
throughout
the
years,
and
I
really
appreciate
how
our
police
department
has
pivoted
and
responded
to
this
need.
It
has
been
just
really
wonderful
to
work
with
our
chief,
amada
and
and
all
of
the
departments.
F
They
really
get
what
is
happening
to
our
community
and
and
specifically
to
our
asian
american
community
that
that
it
doesn't
have
the
same
number
of
reports,
and
so
that
represents
an
under
under
reporting.
That
is
just
as
concerning
as
the
numbers
that
are
coming
in
for
children
of
color.
F
J
J
Well,
thank
you
council
member,
so
I
think
tony,
that's
probably
for
you
folks
to
answer.
I
Here,
thank
you
for
the
question
councilmember
right
now
we
are,
we
have
sufficient
resources
in
our
sexual
assault
unit
and
looking
through
the
the
budget.
The
only
thing
that
we
are
looking
at
for
that
is
the
domestic
violence,
high
risk
response
team
that
that
partnership
and
that
project
that
we're
working
on.
I
But
you
know
we
have
the
the
funding
for
that
and
in
this
budget.
F
Yeah,
I
did
see
the
increase
in
the
in
the
family,
violence
and
sexual
assault,
and
you
know
the
other
investigative
units
in
increase
and
to
match
the
response
as
well.
So
I'm
I'm
really
pleased
to
see
that.
So
I'm
I'm
glad
that
you
talked
about
you
know
the
the
response
for
the
domestic
violence
piece
and
the
the
other
part
that
belongs
to.
That
is
also,
of
course,
the
sexual
assault,
as
we
all
know
that
there's
intersectionality
between
that
and
human
trafficking
and
sex
work.
F
What
what
are?
What
is
the
need
for
us?
Is
there
a
need,
or
is
there
sufficient
resources
available
for
the
for
the
new
established
children's
advocacy
center,
that
we
were
co-located
at.
I
So
we're
moving
the
current
resources
that
we
have
assigned
at
the
old
location
into
the
new
new
location,
and
you
know
so.
We
have
those
resources
there
and
I
will
let
deputy
chief
l
washburn,
who
oversees
the
bureau
of
investigations
and
that
effort
speak
more
on
that.
R
Thank
you
very
much
chief.
Let
me
lower
my
hand
here
and
thank
you
for
your
question.
Council
member.
I
just
want
to
well
first
I'll
address
your
your
latest
question
about
the
cac
we
do
have
our
department
personnel
assigned
to
the
sexual
assaults
unit
that
are
ongoing,
not
only
were
integral
in
the
the
development
right
in
collaboration
with
our
other
city
and
county
partners,
in
standing
it
up,
but
going
forward.
R
You
know,
as
far
as
being
the
ongoing
liaison
to
ensure
that
you
know
our
involvement
and
engagement
in
the
cac
is
kind
of
fluid
and
streamlined,
so
we
do
still
have
obviously
an
ongoing
liaison
partnership
as
it
relates
to
that
and
to
your
prior
question.
I
just
wanted
to
bring
up
two
points
number
one.
We
did
complete
an
mba
for
two,
and
this
is
in
response
to.
R
I
believe
your
request
that
came
out
at
pispus
in
response
to
requesting
two
crime
and
intelligence
analysts
be
assigned
to
the
bureau
of
investigations,
one
of
which
would
be
over
at
family
violence,
which
is
the
gender-based
violence
criteria
that
we
discussed
at
pispis
and
then
the
second
would
be
over
at
the
sexual
assaults
unit,
because
we
have
the
special
victims
unit,
which
oversees
the
the
internet
crimes
against
children,
as
well
as
the
human
trafficking
component,
so
they're
a
very
integral
part.
R
As
far
as
civilian
staffing
to
help
support
the
queries-
and
you
know
the
the
questions
that
that
do
come
out
of
pispis
and
being
able
to
respond
to
that
and
simultaneously,
you
know
allowing
our
detectives
to
focus
on
their
detective
work.
So
I
would
say
that
is
one
piece
and
then,
like
the
rest
of
the
bureau,
we
are
really
working
very
closely
with
the
bureau
of
field
operations,
so
as
officers
come
out
of
training
and
become
fully
street
ready
on
their
own.
I'm
in
constant
dialogue
with
deputy
chief
stan
mcfadden.
R
We
have
a
great
relationship
as
far
as
trying
to
fill
some
of
the
operational
vacancies
that
we
have
in
investigations
and
and
we're
slowly
doing
that
we
do
have
vacancies
in
the
sexual
assaults
units
as
far
as
detective
detectives
go
and
supervisors,
but
again
we're
actively
working
to
fill.
Those
certainly
response
times
are
important
and
critical
right
and
then
the
back
end
of
things.
We
want
to
ensure
that
we
have
sufficient
resources
to
thoroughly
and
effectively
investigate
our
crimes
for
successful
prosecution.
R
So
really
it's
the
full
spectrum
that
we
need
to
pay
attention
to
so
we're
getting
there.
We
do
have
some
vacancies
and
I
hope
I've
been
able
to
at
least
answer
your
question
in
part.
F
Oh,
absolutely,
chief
washburn,
you
have
you
actually
went
into
the
direction
that
I
was
going
to
ask
about
next,
and
that
is
you
know.
Do
we
have
enough
to
your
point
about
you
know
your
the
vacancies
in
those
units.
I
was
going
to
ask
specifically
about
the
recruitment
of
police,
female
police
officers
in
in
those
investigative
units,
and
what
is
it
that
we
were
doing
or
what?
What
was
the
plan
to
bring
those
folks
in,
as
you
know,
that's
part
of
identified
as
a
best
practice
by
research
and
our
local
stakeholders.
R
You
know,
can
you
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that?
Absolutely
and
it'll.
Look
like
we
scripted
this,
but
I
swear
that's
honored
that
actually
yesterday
I
put
my
captains
aside
and
I
and
I
asked
how
many
women
lieutenants
we
had
in
the
bureau,
which
is
zero
and
how
many
at
present
female
sergeants.
R
We
have
in
investigations
and
off
the
top
of
my
head
and
I
stand
to
be
corrected,
but
we
have
zero
and
obviously,
as
a
as
a
female
deputy
chief
here
in
investigations,
I
want
to
see
what
we
can
do
to
make
that
different
in
part,
because
when
we're
working
with
survivors
in
particular,
I
do
think
it's
very
important
right.
Everybody
in
the
police
department
brings
special
gifts
to
the
table
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
representative
and
inclusive
even
in
investigation.
So
it's
no
fault
of
investigations.
R
You
know
it's,
it's
a
tough
profession
and
I
think
it
starts
in
coordinating
at
the
chief
level
at
recruitment
and
with
the
bureau
of
field
operations,
and
so
we
are
actively
working
on
incentivizing
and
trying
to
do
what
we
can
to
informally
mentor
our
female
detectives.
To
then
come
back
and
and
promote
within
a
supervisory
role
and
come
back
to
the
bureau,
so
it
is
something
on
my
radar
and
I'd
be
happy
to
talk
offline
about
that.
R
I
don't
have
a
strategic
plan
for
it
yet,
but
it
is
something
that
we
it's
very
timely.
Your
question
we're
working
on
that.
F
Thank
you
so
much
chief
launchburn
and
no.
We
did
not
coordinate
this,
but
I'm
so
just
so
pleased
that
we're
on
the
same
page
with
this.
Otherwise,
if
we
had
coordinated,
we
would
have
done
a
schtick
or
something
right
to
go
along
with
this
okay.
So
my
next
question
is
about
so
our
new
established
partnership
with
with
the
children's
advocacy
center.
F
F
I
don't
know
if
you
would
know
that
off
the
top
of
your
head,
that's
something
you're,
also
working
on
or
if,
if
you
could
follow
up
on
that,
just
to
make
sure
that
that
we
match
that
in
that
there
isn't
any
concern
on
our
partners
and
in
terms
of
not
funding,
not
not
approving
an
exam,
because
we
don't
have
the
funds
that
would
be
the
that
should
be
the
least
of
our
concerns
and
the
concerns
of
our
families.
R
Certainly
yeah,
I
know
I
I
would
have
to
do
some
follow-up
on
that.
I
would
agree
with
you
that
you
know
all
things
consider
that
funding
should
not
be
the
determining
factor
in
whether
or
not
a
child
survivor
you
know,
receives
an
exam
so
and,
and
certainly
when
the
cac
you
know
has
the
collaborative
partnership
we
do
with
the
county,
but
I
will
absolutely
look
into
that
and
provide
some
oversight
in
that
area
and
ensure
that
that
is
not
the
case.
So
thank
you
for
that.
F
Great
and
those
were
my
questions-
I
did
have
a
question
about
this
cert
program
at
a
council
member
fully
asked
that
question
already,
so
I
appreciate
it.
I
think
that's
in
the
mind
of
all
of
us,
as
we're
still
in
in
the
middle
of
this
pandemic,
but
trying
to
make
an
effort
towards
recovery.
So
thank
you.
D
Thank
you
and
and
deputy
chief
washburn,
since
we
haven't,
had
an
opportunity
yet
to
speak
in,
live
or
in
zoom.
Congratulations
on
your
new
position.
I
just
want
to
double
down
on
something
you
said
you
know
I.
I
prosecute
sexual
assault
crimes
involving
both
child
and
adult
victims
for
several
years
in
the
da's
office-
and
I
know
there
was
a
direct
correlation
between
the
success
of
an
investigation
and
whether
there
was
a
female
investigator
whether
it
was
a
child
or
adult
victim.
D
It
made
a
huge
difference
in
both
the
likelihood
that
a
victim
was
or
survivor
was
going
to
be.
Reporting
was
going
to
actually
implicate
the
assailant
and
when
that
they
were
willing
to
testify
all
those
things
had
a
significant
relationship
to
the
relationship
they
had
with
the
investigators,
and
so
I
really
appreciate
the
point
you
made
and
I
hope
it
will
be
a
priority
for
us,
particularly
in
seiu,
but
another
investigative
units
as
well.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Okay,
any
other
comments
or
questions
we'll
go
to
the
public.
K
Answer
councilmember
davis's
question:
there:
staff
did
a
good
job
trying
to
figure
this
one
out,
so
the
the
biggest
difference
here
so
under
the
strategic
support
public
safety
in
the
police
department
budget
section.
So
that's
on
page,
roman
numeral,
eight
three
eleven
that
biggest
drop
is
attributable
to
the
public
information
technology
program
and
that's
mostly
because
last
in
the
2021
budget
we
had
about
4.5
million
dollars
to
replace
the
mobile
data
computers.
K
So
that
was
a
one-time
funding
that
we
obviously
don't
have
back
in
the
proposed
budget,
because
that
was
there
one
time.
So
that's
that's
that.
So
that's
that
core
service
and
then
in
the
studios
for
other
public
safety
that
difference
there
are
primarily
a
number
of
grants
that
are
specified
for
a
certain
year.
K
So
you
know,
even
though
we
get
a
lot
of
these
grants
on
every
every
year,
we
we're
not
guaranteed
to
get
those
grants,
so
we
only
budget
them
when
when
we
get
them
and
oftentimes,
we
will
re-budget
at
the
end
of
the
year.
So
some
of
that
funding
will
roll
over
but
some
example
grants
would
be
internet
cha
crimes
against
children
grants
some
urban
areas.
Security
initiative
grants,
selective
traffic
enforcement
programs,
so
some
very
specific
grants
that
then
get
rolled
over
into
the
following
year.
If
they're
not
spent.
C
K
And
we
would
normally
recognize
those
funds
when
we
formally
receive
the
reward
out
like
a
separate
standalone
city
council.
D
Thank
you.
Okay.
Let's
go
to
the
public
now
we're
receiving
comments
now
on
public
safety
relating
to
police,
fire
and
emergency
services,
so
we'll
go
first
to
nihar.
Welcome.
S
Thank
you,
hello,
yeah,
and
thank
you
to
the
city
council
for
hearing
my
public
comment:
I'm
a
member
of
sacred
hearts,
racial
equity
and
community
safety
committee
or
rex
for
shirt
short
and
I'm
calling
today
to
support
transforming
the
reimagined
community
safety
task
force
into
a
blue
ribbon.
S
It
was
clear
from
all
the
calls
that
came
in
last
summer
that
we
need
to
completely
transform
how
we
keep
the
residents
safe
in
our
city.
A
blue
ribbon
commission
would
create
a
real
process
where
the
community
can
be
more
involved.
In
these
conversations,
the
commission
could
bring
in
experts
host
town
halls,
conduct
community
interviews
and
give
the
city
council
a
comprehensive
report
on
their
findings.
Santa
clara
county
has
had
great
success
with
the
blue
ribbon
commission.
So
why
can't
we?
S
We
ask
that
the
council
returns
the
reimagined
task
force
to
a
blue
ribbon
commission
and
expand
their
budget
to
a
million
dollars.
Our
budget
can
prioritize
what
the
community
has
been
asking
for.
San
jose
can
be
a
place
where
all
residents
can
thrive
and
have
a
future
we're
calling
on
you
to
be
the
leaders
in
the
fight
for
race,
equity
and
community
safety.
By
getting
this
done.
Thank
you.
D
Thank
you,
molly
mccloud,
welcome.
M
Good
morning
my
name
is
molly
macleod
and
I
am
wondering
whether
or
not
the
access
and
functional
needs
budget.
What
was
it
increased
for
on
emergency
management?
That
was
the
biggest
gap,
also
glad
to
see
that
the
public
records
is
being
in
police
department,
responding
to
a
national
call
to
find
out
how
many
officers
or
sworn
staff
have
are
certified
with
american
sign
language,
and
the
response
was
none.
This
is
a
concern.
Every
department
should
have
resources
and
be
looking
at
the
civil
rights
and
accessibility
for
the
residents.
M
Similarly,
with
the
fire
department
in
responding
an
emergency
are,
is
the
communication
and
durable
medical
equipment
prioritized
along
with
the
person?
It's
actually
part
of
the?
M
So
I'm
hoping
you're
able
to
hear
me
because
my
thing
is:
oh,
it's
I've
seen
the
text.
That's
another
part
of
it
on
the
reimagining.
M
If
we
look
at
child
care
and
employment,
if
you're
not
having
to
juggle
regular
jobs,
multiple
jobs
to
to
pay
for
housing,
you're-
probably
not
speeding
as
much
and
so
are
the
solutions
that
we're
looking
at
actually
getting
to
the
root
causes
of
the
issues
and
then
the
the
question
again.
For
that
solemn
ask
who
is
burdened
and
who
benefits
in
this?
That's
my
input
on
reimagining,
the
entire
city
services
to
include
the
whole
community,
especially
people
with
disabilities,
who
are
multiply
marginalized.
Thank
you.
M
Hi
sparky
harlan
ceo
bill
wilson
center,
and
I
was
one
of
the
co-directors
of
the
behavioral
health
contractors
association
that
develop
the
28
million
behavioral
health
proposal.
That's
going
to
the
state
in
two
weeks
that
will
provide
over
11
million
to
the
city
of
san
jose
over
four
years
to
sort
of
divert
non-emergency
calls
away
from
police
department
and
to
also
train
the
community
on
calling
a
new
three-digit
number
will
have
a
call
center
staffed,
24
7
to
take
calls
from
the
community
on
both
around
homeless
issues
in
mental
health
and
in
home.
M
I
think
that's
going
to
take
some
effort,
but
it
will
be
worth
it
citywide
if
we
are
to
have
city
of
san
jose,
join
us
in
this
new
program
to
say,
let's
help
educate
our
community
on
how
to
call
this
new
three-number
call
center
rather
than
9-1-1,
and
always
rely
on
police.
When
we
can
do
those
services
by
community
and
emts
that
we
will
have
on
our
three
team
members,
thank
you.
D
Thank
you,
liz
finney.
N
L
L
Ask
for
a
blue
ribbon
commission
for
the
in
place
of
the
reimagining
community
safety
task
force.
I
think
it's
really
important
to
have
feedback
from
the
community
to
actually
meet
the
needs
of
our
community,
and
I
would
also
like
to
see
san
jose
become
a
leader
in
our
fight
for
race,
equity
and
community
safety.
Thank
you.
D
Thank
you,
mr
beekman.
A
Hi,
it's
blair,
beekman
here
last
place
blair
beekman
how
you
doing
everyone.
I
think
I'm
going
to
start
the
future
of
my
public
comments.
If
a
matter
is
really
important
to
myself,
I'm
going
to
say
something
like
you
know,
I
I
don't.
I
only
have
two
minutes
to
speak
on
this
item.
I
wish
I
had
more
time
to
speak
on
this
item
because
I
do,
and
so
I
will
do
that
in
the
future
with
135
left.
A
A
I
think
you're
at
a
loss
right
now
where
to
go
in
the
next
few
years
and
what
direction
we
need
to
go
in
and
you
you
made
this
very
clear.
We
need
to
consider
our
direction.
A
You
know
the
ideas
of
a
blue
ribbon
task
force
about
reimagine
ideas
to
address
the
future
of
natural
disaster
instead
of
more
and
more
police.
I
think
that's
an
awesome
idea
for
the
next
few
years.
I
think
pam
foley
mentioned
what
can
be
cert
program
ideas.
A
You
know
those
are
really
good
examples
of
bringing
the
community
involvement
instead
of
more
and
more
police,
which
I
think
you're
asking
yourselves
at
this
time,
which
is
awesome,
which
means
we
may
be
way
ahead
of
the
curve
in
the
bay
area
compared
to
other
various
cities.
So
congratulations
on
that
point.
A
Let's
really,
you
know,
bear
down
and
work
on
it
now
and
let's
make
it
a
community
effort
if
there
is
in
an
upcoming
natural
disaster
in
the
next
few
years-
and
you
know
that
way-
our
better
practices
now
can
prepare
us
for
that
time
and
get
us
out
of
that
time.
Once
it
happens,
that's
what
I'm
always
be
we'll
be
saying
in
these
next
few
weeks
and
months
and
good
luck
on
your
work.
Good
luck!
How
we
can
address,
maybe
overtime.
A
L
L
I
really
appreciate
sparky
harlan's
public
comment
and
would
agree
that
this
is
a
great
opportunity
for
the
city
of
san
jose
to
participate
in
educating
the
community
and
helping
our
community
to
reach
out
to
professionals
that
are
trained
in
mental
health
that
are
trained
in
working
with
youth
and
to
implement
these
changes
in
our
city.
That
can
really
increase
public
safety
for
all
of
us.
L
G
Yeah
thanks
mayor,
this
is
actually
building
off
of
what
sparky
was
saying,
and
actually
I
just
had
a
conversation
with
someone
last
night
that
was
very
happy
and
pleased
this
past
year.
G
Utilizing
the
the
new
mobile
crisis
response
team
unit
that
was
a
pilot
last
year,
and
that
our
police
department,
in
partnership
with
the
county,
has
now
made
permanent,
and
the
experience
they
had
last
year
was
very
good,
and
I
think
that
actually,
it
was
because
not
many
people
were
aware
of
it
and,
as
it
has
now
become
more
popular,
even
though
it
is,
it
has
now
been
expanded
to
five
days
a
week
throughout
the
day.
G
I
guess
the
experience
this
individual
was
having
was
the
last
few
times
they
have
tried
to
call
in
for
a
response
of
this
team.
They
have
been
backed
up
and
it
sort
of
goes
back
to
now
that
the
similar,
I
think,
delay
in
in
response
of
a
call
time
response
that
we
have.
You
know
challenges
with
with
with
regular
calls
for
service,
and
so
I
I
would
agree
with
wanting
to
make
sure
that
we
can
promote
the
new
program.
G
My
hope
is
that
that
also
helps
free
up
some
of
the
calls
that
where
our
officers
have
to
go
with
our
new
mobile
crisis
response
team
unit-
and
so
I
would
say
you
know
it's
a
good
thing
to
educate
our
community
on
this.
But
if
our
community
members
are
experiencing
delayed
response
times
with
this
unit
as
well,
then
then,
you
know
now
we're
back
to
ground
zero,
on
being
frustrated
on
on
the
response
of
this
unit.
G
On
being
able
to
do
what
it's
supposed
to
do
so,
we
would
need
to
also
allocate
the
unit
adequately,
and
I
know
that,
because
it
is
brand
new
and
we've
moved
from
a
a
temporary
pilot
now
to
actually
making
it
a
full
unit.
We
got
actually
two
updates
at
pist
already
this
year.
G
I
think
we
need
to
monitor
that
closely
to
see
what
type
of
resources
we
need
to
put
in
that
unit
to
ensure
that
it
can
adequately
respond
in
the
year
ahead.
So
I
don't.
I
don't
know
if
there's
any
suggestion
that
needs
to
be
made
for
this
coming
year,
but
I'm
happy
to
hear
from
chief
mata
as
well
just
his
thoughts
on
on
what
kind
of
continued
monitoring
and
the
resourcing
of
this
new
unit
looks.
I
Like
thank
you,
council,
member,
for
that.
Yes,
like
you
mentioned,
we
did
expand
the
the
pilot
program.
It's
still
a
pilot
program
funded
by
some
grant
funding
and
where
I'll,
allow
deputy
chief
mcfadden
to
talk
about
the
the
progress
and
the
collaboration
with
with
the
county
on
that
project.
B
Absolutely
thank
you.
Chief.
The
mcat
program
has
been
very
progressive,
we're
doing
a
lot
but
has
been
on
borrowed
bodies,
meaning
we
have
removed
officers
out
of
the
beach
structure.
You
know
to
temporarily
fulfill
these
duties.
You
know
we
do
have
some
grant
funding
right
now,
but
you
know
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we
would
like
to
have
the
unit
staffed
with
permanent
officers.
B
You
know
right
now
we're
running
on
one
side
of
the
week.
We
have
officers
that
we
pulled
out
of
the
beach
structure
that
are
operating
under
a
sergeant
that
was
also
pulled
out.
Then
the
other
side
of
the
week
we
have
overtime
positions
that
are
being
filled,
so
the
feedback
has
been
great.
The
leveraging
of
of
county
clinicians
has
been
very
progressive
and
we
continue
to
expand
on
that.
B
We
have
looped
in
our
dispatchers
as
well,
and
we've
been
having
conversations
at
the
table
where
you
know,
I
think
we're
hopeful
the
day
may
come
where,
if
a
person's
in
crisis,
they
could
be
resourced
to
clinicians
directly
and
mcat
can
help
with
that
facilitation,
but
that
that's
what
we
are
with
the
program
right
now.
The
support
is
overwhelming
and,
as
councilmember
prowess
said,
you
know
it's
gaining
momentum,
there's
a
lot
of
people
out
there
that
want
to
see
more
of
them
and
see
them
have
the
ability
to
be
more
responsive
and
around
the
clock.
B
G
Quick
quick
response
for
you
cat
power,
sorry,
deputy
chief,
have
we
had
a
challenge
filling
some
of
these
spots?
I
know
it's
supposed
to
be
right,
monday,
through
friday,
eight
to
eight
or
something
like
that.
So
have
we
had
a
challenge
filling
in
those
spots.
B
In
fact,
we
had
to
sit
down
yesterday
and
we're
putting
our
thinking
caps
on
to
see
how
she's
able
you
know
to
help
get
a
list
of
individuals
that
can
kind
of
commit
on
an
overtime
basis
on
that
side.
But
again
that's
on
grant
funding
as
well
and
it's
temporary,
and
I
you
know
for
maximum
success
of
this
program.
We
absolutely
need
some.
You
know
some
permanent
assignments.
There.
G
Yeah,
I
would
agree
100
as,
as
you
know,
and
as
I
know
the
mayor
knows,
this
is
the
challenge
that
we
had
that
we
have
had
with
foot
patrol
and
when
you,
when
you
fund
something
on
an
overtime
basis
and
you're,
asking
people
to
sign
up
for
those
roles,
what
we
tend
to
see
and
well.
G
Actually
the
problem
is,
I
think
that
we
don't
see
it
is
that
that
when
people
don't
sign
up
for
these
roles,
they're
just
not
out
there-
and
you
know
it
typically
takes
weeks
or
months
for,
for
instance,
my
office
to
get
feedback
that
says
hey,
you
know,
I
don't
think
we've
seen
anybody
out
here
a
couple
days.
You
know
the
week
and
you
know
what's
the
challenge
and
we're
not
getting
that
real-time
feedback
from
yourselves
from
the
police
department.
That
says:
hey
we're
having
trouble
staffing
this.
G
It's
sort
of
you
know
on
as
a
complaint
basis,
an
inquiry
basis
and
then
all
of
a
sudden,
we
find
out
that
you
know
it's
not
working
as
well
as
we
had
hoped
it
would
and
and
the
reality
is
it's
because
it's
you
know
it's
not
funded
as
a
permanent
position
right
and
and
any
time
you
have
that,
I'm
I'm
you
know
both.
I
guess
surprised
and
disappointed
to
hear
that
already
we're
having
those
challenges
with
filling
the
and
I
keep
calling
the
mobile
crisis
response
to
the
mobile
crisis
assessment
team.
G
You
guys
changed
the
name
on
us
last
minute
so,
but
I
think
you
know
to
hear
that
we're
having
similar
challenges
with
that
brand
new
sort
of
team
as
well
right
and
then
based
on
what
I
heard
last
night,
from
a
condition
with
it,
I
think
again
saw
that
they
they
really
were
appreciating
that
unit
and
and
then
now
feeling
as
though
you
know,
they've
had
some
challenges
getting
a
response
and
to
hear
this
response
from
you.
G
G
We
asked
right
that
we
wanted
to
hear
back
on
it
periodically,
but
I
I'm
going
to
be
asking
now
at
this
christmas
meeting
that
we
hear
back
more
regularly
on
positions
like
this,
especially
the
ones
that
are
not
filled
permanently,
because
if
there
are
challenges
like
this-
and
you
know
as
you
roll
out
a
pilot-
I
don't
want
this
to
deem.
G
It
didn't
actually
work
that
well,
but
when
we
know
that
part
of
the
challenge
was
simply
that,
maybe
we
weren't
staffing
it
adequately
enough,
and
so
we
didn't
even
give
it
an
opportunity
to
succeed
as
well
as
it
could,
and
I
don't
think
we're
there
yet
with
this
with
this
program,
but
I
don't
want
to
get
there
and
so
for
me,
you
know
if
resourcing
is
a
major
issue
and
if
we
come
to
a
conclusion
that
look
we're
just
not
going
to
be
able
to
adequately
run
this
unit
or
program
with
you
know,
backfilled
officers
or
tdy
officers,
overtime,
whatever
it
may
be.
G
I
think
argument
that
I
was
making
when
I
put
forward
a
memo
a
couple
months
ago
with
councilmember
davis
on
you
know
the
foot
patrol
process
or
the
food
patrol
officers
and
as
we're
going
to
go
through
the
redistricting
process
to
look
at
permanent
foot
patrol
beats.
So
that
way,
we're
no
longer
running
into
that
same
problem
with
the
foot
patrol
officers,
and
so
it
sounds
like
this
might
be
a
similar
challenge,
and
that
may
be
the
goal
that
we
want
to
strive
to
get
to
with
this
with
this
mcat
unit
too.
G
J
Yeah,
if
I
could
councilman,
I
certainly
appreciate
the
points,
and
I
think
we
all
recognize
the
importance
of
the
program
and
what's
at
stake
here
and
and
the
success
of
it.
How
important
that
is
to
us
all
so
good
points
and-
and
we
will
figure
out
a
way
to
make
sure
that
we're
keeping
you
all
informed
and
doing
everything
we
can
to
keep
the
program
staffed
and
and
and
be
successful.
D
Yeah,
just
like
echo,
councilman
paralysis,
points
completely
agree.
You
know
we
went
years
where
I
was
telling
you
know
small
business
owners
in
downtown.
D
Hey
we've
got
this
downtown
patrol,
they
kept
telling
me,
I
think
it
doesn't
exist
and
it
wasn't
until
actually,
chief
mcfadden,
you
came
in
as
captain
that
we
really
started
seeing
actual
officers
on
downtown
patrol
it
was
you
know,
so
I
really
appreciate
this
point
about
the
big
gap
between
what
we
think
we're
funding
and
what
may
actually
happen
based
on
on
who's
able
to
take
it
on.
So
I'm
I
look
forward
to
some
creative
solutions
that
we
can
all
push
on
to
to
get
real
police
officers
in
those
roles.
D
I
also
wanted
to
just
ask
a
question
to
follow
up
on
sparky
harlan's
comment,
which
you
know
awfully
important.
A
lot
of
work's
been
got,
has
gone
into
trying
to
create
alternative
ways
for
us
to
be
responding
to
mental
health
crises,
and
I
guess
I'm
a
little
concerned
about
a
strategy.
It
depends
on
us
informing
the
public
on
a
different
way
to
be
calling
because
we
know
how
hard
that
is,
and
it
would
be
ideal
if,
instead,
the
public
was
making
the
same
calls
9-1-1
3-1-1
and
we
were
simply
deciding.
I
You
know
mayor
I'll
I'll,
take
a
stab
at
that
yeah
I
mean
that's,
that's
something
that
you
know
through
the
reimagining.
You
know
when
we
look
at
the
different
services,
how
we're
going
to
respond.
That's
something
that
we
have
to
look
at
is
you
know
who
who
gets
the
call?
How
does
it
get
rerouted?
I
know
we
just
recently
made
the
change
or
the
changes
to
our
311
system,
where
some
of
those
calls
get
rerouted
and
eventually,
if
they
are
police
related,
it
comes
back
to
the
police
department.
I
So
that's
something
that
we
have
to
you
know
take
a
look
at
and
I'll.
If
anyone
wants
to
jump
in
on
that
and
help
with
that,
they
can.
Okay,
any
other.
D
Thoughts
about
our
future
direction:
okay!
Well,
I
guess
you
could
tell
by
the
question
it
was
pretty
loaded
and
biased,
that
my
hope
is
that
the
direction
we're
going
is
is
that
everybody
expects
residents
will
continue
to
call
as
they
are,
but
we're
going
to
be
responding
differently.
I
see
chief
mcfadden.
B
B
You
know,
so
those
are
calls
that
we
would
have
to
fill
that
you
know
it
may
look
like
where
our
dispatcher
may
have
to
connect
a
sergeant
in
the
field
and
run
down
the
circumstances
with
that
sergeant,
and
you
know
so,
we
can
make
a
more
informed
decision,
but
you
know
the
way
it
looks
like
right
now
and
it's
kind
of
it's
kind
of
been
how
it's
happening.
You
know
right
now
is
the
call
comes
in
and
the
dispatchers
are
are
reaching
out
to
our
mcat
resources
and
they're,
making
an
informed
decision.
B
Mcat
is
connecting
with
the
different
clinicians
and
and
other
resources
that
could
focus
on
some
of
the
crisis
going
on
and
we've
been
bridging
it
that
way.
D
Yeah,
okay,
thank
you.
I
see
sparkling
sparky
just
raised
her
hand.
Sparky
did
you
just
want
to
weigh
in
briefly
on
this
before
we
move
on.
M
Yes,
you
know
I've
studied
this
a
lot
and
the
we
also
looked
at
that
model
of
just
going
through
dispatch,
9-1-1
and
then
triaging
and
diverting
them
like,
with
even
social
workers
at
dispatch.
But
what
happened
is
when
the
county
asked
the
community?
M
It
was
the
community
who
said
we
won
a
community,
only
phone
number
that
got
dispatched
that
we'll
have
13
staff
there
triaging
these
24
7
calls,
and
I
see
that
we
would
work
closely
with
the
police
department
and
make
sure
they're
triaged
back
there,
but
it
was
40
different
groups
that
met
who
said
they
wanted
this
separate
three-digit
number.
So
that's
in
there
I
do
think
you're
right.
We
have
to
figure
out
how
to
work
together
and
I
think
we
will,
but
that's
the
model
that
is
innovative
and
wide.
The
state
will
approve
it.
M
D
Yeah,
I
appreciate
that,
thank
you,
sparky
and,
and
obviously
we'll
we'll
learn
as
we
go
here
and
appreciate
all
the
work.
That's
been
that's
gone
into,
creating
this
separate
channel
and
I
think
time
will
tell
to
figure
out
how
exactly
our
residents
respond
to
know
how
best
we
can
respond.
D
Okay,
I
think
that
wraps
up
all
the
questions
on
public
safety
chief
sapien
got
away
without
any
questions.
It's
very
impressive.
D
J
D
Okay,
john
and
john,
are
both
here
transportation
aviation,
any
questions
or
comments
from
the
council.
D
John
rusto,
I
know
this
has
been
ongoing
conversation
here
with
regard
to
this
airport
connector,
which
we
hope
to
have
an
rfp
out
soon
on
and
thank
you
jessica
for
joining.
Do
do
we
expect
to
have
multiple
bidders
based
on
what
we're
hearing
so
far
I
mean,
I
know
of
at
least
one
company
is
very
interested.
I've
heard
rumors
about
others,
but
I
just
don't
know
how
serious
they
are.
P
Thanks
mayor
john
russo,
director
of
transportation,
so
just
to
catch
up
the
rest
of
the
council,
the
airport
connected
project
is
a
follow-on
to
the
request
for
information
we
did
about
a
year
and
a
half
ago
that
was
investigating
what
new
transit
technologies
might
be
available
to
connect
the
airport
and
actually
all
the
way
out
to
de
anza
college.
P
So
this
is
the
follow-up.
What
we're
trying
to
do
is
actually
get
serious
with
the
industry
and
see
if
there's
really
any
interest
or
technology
capabilities
to
actually
do
something
like
this.
So
to
answer
the
question
mayor,
we
we
have
been
certainly
been
contacted
by
one
group
that
is
interested
in
responding
to
an
rfp
that
we
put
out.
P
P
So
we
have
been
contacted
by
a
couple
other
entities,
but
I
I'm
not
sure
if
I
can
tell
you
how
serious
or
are
they
ready
or
prepared
to
respond
to
an
rfp
but
for
sure
wasn't
pretty
serious
about
it
with
a
credible
looking
proposal
so
far,
but
the
the
whole
thing
is:
we've
got
to
get
the
rfp
out
in
shape
that
they
can
respond
to
it.
A
D
P
That
last
about
that
yeah,
so
I
think
the
answer
mayor
is
the
we're
pretty
sure
about
one
group,
possibly
some
other
ones,
but
I
really
can't
say
in
terms
of
how
serious
the
other
ones
are.
D
Okay,
thanks
john
and
then
I
guess
a
question
really
for
budget
and
finance,
because
I
understand
there
may
be
some
reservations
about
the
creations
of
infrastructure,
financing
districts
that
rely
on
tax
increment
and
as
we
look
at
the
deer
don
area
and
the
massive
amount
of
need
there
will
be
for
various
transportation
infrastructure
projects.
K
I
don't
know
if
anybody
wants
to
wait.
I
know
we.
We
have
taken
some
preliminary
conversations.
You
know
on
on
that
topic
and
it's
been
something
that
we've
been
sort
of
working
on
sort
of
on
the
back
burner.
You
know,
there's
always
just
you
know,
making
sure
that
from
a
sort
of
boring
budget
and
finance
perspective
make
sure
that
it's
feasible,
that
we
can
that
we
can
swing
it.
Given
some
of
the
history
that
we
had
with
the
development
agency.
But
I
know
when
you
get
to
the
project
level.
K
I
know
I've
had
some
conversation
with
those
two.
I
don't
know
if,
if
dot
or
public
works,
maybe
is
wants
to
talk
about
some
of
the
different
types
of
projects
that
have
been
floated.
P
Yeah
thanks
thanks
jim
john
riso
dirk
transportation.
I
don't
have
a
whole
lot
to
add
that
we
have
actively
done
much
research
or
work
on
financing
districts.
We
we're
we're
considering
a
parking
district
in
the
area.
That
would
be
a
combined
effort.
We
would
have
to
try
to
find
a
way
to
make
that
work
to
fund
it
and
then
manage
it
through
some
contribution
from
developer
or
users
of
that
system.
P
Probably
the
most
informed
we
have
been
over
the
last
couple
years
is
the
work
that
vta
did
in
advance
of
the
bart
project
coming
through
that
they
did
quite
a
bit
of
detailed
work
in
terms
of
various
funding
or
enhanced
infrastructure
districts
using
state
law,
and
they
didn't
proceed
with
anything,
and
I
think
there
was
just
some
issues
with
regard
to
how
how
that
would
be
set
up,
what
benefit
that
would
be,
and
some
of
the
limitations
due
to
the
already
limited,
limited
ability
for
incremental
financing,
because
we've
got
debt
burden
from
previous
redevelopment
agency
things
so
yeah.
P
B
I
I
did
also
just
manage
to
let
nancy
klein
know.
This
is
jessica,
zanck,
deputy
director
for
planning,
project
delivery,
and
only
john
and
jim
have
great
recollections
about
this.
I
think
the
only
thing
I
would
add,
and
if
if
nancy
wanted
to
weigh
in
is
that
as
we
update
the
existing
deradon
station
area
plan.
B
R
E
And
mayor
and
just
to
add
to
that,
vta
and
the
other
disc
partners
are
very
interested
in
pursuing
an
eifd
as
well
as
the
other
tools
we've
begun
to
talk
to
julia
about
it.
The
the
agency
payments
have
reached
a
point
where
there
are
payments
being
made,
as
you
well
know,
so
so
it
is
possible
and
so
just
need
to
continue
on
with
the
analysis.
E
D
Thanks
nancy,
I
appreciate
this
isn't
simple
and
I
also
appreciate
history
with
redevelopment.
I
don't
think
there
was
anybody
on
the
council
at
the
time
who
was
a
larger
critic
or
a
louder
critic.
I
should
say
of
some
redevelopment
spending
decisions
than
I
was,
but
I
guess,
as
I
see
this,
you
know
the
flaw
isn't
with
the
tax
increment
concept,
the
flaws
with
the
decisions
that
you
make
with
the
money-
and
you
know
my
my
fundamental
concern
is
twofold.
D
We're
going
to
continue
to
do
so,
but
the
extent
that
we
do
not
have
our
own
source
of
funding
to
do
anything
will
simply
be
at
the
whim
of
what
other
regional
agencies
may
want
to
do,
and
there's
a
lot
of
folks
there
who
and
frankly,
a
lot
of
regional
sources,
mtc
capturing
vta,
high
speed,
rail,
others
and,
and
I'm
just
very
concerned,
if
we
don't
have
any
money,
we're
not
going
to
be
the
ones
making
the
decisions
and
we
have
an
opportunity.
D
D
My
other
concern
is,
is
if
we
don't
lock
in
that
base
year
really
soon,
then,
obviously
we
lose
a
huge
amount
of
upside
evaluation
that
takes
place
as
soon
as
construction
starts,
and
so
I
would
love
to
be
able
to
have
a
marker
down
so
that
we
can
start
using
as
early
years
possible
for
a
base
year,
and
so
I
just
wonder,
does
it
make
sense
for
us
to
be
thinking
about
putting
a
little
money
in
this
budget
so
that
we
could
get
whatever
you
know,
external
legal
help
or
other
help?
E
E
He
believes
it's
justified
and
just
trying
to
to
get
some
freed
up
time
of
hers.
I
think
we
have
the
resource
honestly.
It
may
be
that
an
outside
firm
would
be
able
to
take
a
little
pressure
off.
You
know
cao
so
something
that
can
have
2
100
000
to
be
able
to
do
that
legal
work,
so
we
can
get
get
back
to
it
because
we
agree
it
would
be
great
to
get
the
base
here.
At
that
point,.
D
Yeah,
if
we
could
get
away
with
it,
2009
that'd
be
fantastic
yeah.
I
just
understand
with
danielle's
retirement,
we're
very
challenged,
and
so
I'm
suspecting
at
least
from
our
conversations
with
nora.
That
would
nora.
Are
you
on
the
line
by
chance?
D
B
Other
than
the
conversation
is
interesting,
the
idea
is
very
interesting,
but
this
is
even
danielle
would
not
have
been
able
to
to
do
all
the
work
involved.
We
would
have
to
use
outside
counsel.
M
To
just
to
have
that
expertise,
we
could
support
it,
but
we
would
really
need
some
help.
Setting
up
a
a
project
like
that.
D
Great
okay,
thank
you.
Councilman
foley,.
O
Great
thank
you.
I
have
a
few
questions
about
vision,
zero
and
then
about
the
vehicle
abatement
program.
O
Regarding
vision,
zero,
I'm
really
happy
to
see
increased
staffing
by
4
fte
to
work
on
the
quick,
build
and
community
engagement
both
of
those
are
time
intensive.
As
far
as
the
community
engagement
portion,
but
extremely
important
that
we
reach
out
to
the
community.
O
P
Yeah
councilman
john
risto,
director
of
transportation,
again
really
good
question.
We
would
love
to
make
those
permanent,
because
that's
that's
really.
What
we're
trying
to
do
here,
quick
build,
is
just
as
it
says,
trying
to
get
something
done
quickly
in
these
areas
that
we
know
we
need
to
do
some
traffic
safety
improvements.
P
So
as
an
example
when
we
did
the
downtown
san
fernando
corridor,
when
we
first
tested
out
those
protected
bike
lanes
going
through
san
fernando
and
downtown
with
paint
and
plastic
we're
getting
ready
to
actually
make
that
permanent
through
a
grant.
So
to
answer
your
question:
yes,
there
are
grants
available
for
that
sort
of
work.
In
addition
to
that,
we
did.
P
We
were
actually
recipients
of
another
grant
for
the
keys,
graham
near
first
street
improvements
through
that
washington
neighborhood.
So
there
are
grant
programs
to
make
these
kind
of
projects
permanent.
So
yes,
we're
looking
at
trying
to
do
that
sort
of
thing,
and
and
even
in
your
district
as
we
do
hillsdale
with
paint
and
plastic,
it
is
our
long-term
objective
to
actually
make
hillsdale
more
permanent
in
terms
of
safety
and
putting
in
the
medians
with
plantings
and
all
that.
So
I
think
the
answer
is
yes.
P
These
grants
are
available,
they're,
expensive
and
also
that's
why
those
projects
take
a
while.
But
yes,
the
answer
is.
We
are
definitely
doing
that.
O
P
Number
of
different
places-
some
of
them
are
federal
money.
They
come
to
it's
essentially
federal
gas
tax.
It
comes
through
mtc
and
vta.
The
state
has
some
pretty
good
programs
that
are
state
gas,
tax,
funded
and
fun
from
the
cap
and
trade
program.
So
it
goes
into
a
fund
that
we
compete
at
a
state
level
and
they're
big
enough
grant
programs
that
we
can
do
these
big
projects.
We
were
recipients
of
that
and
then
vta
and
mtc
with
either
local
or
regional
funds,
also
provide
some
pretty
good
sources.
P
O
Wonderful
that
that's
good
to
hear,
I
think,
starting
with
quick
builds,
is
a
good
way
to
see
if
it
works
and
then
converting
to
permanent
is
just
nicer
to
look
at
and
also
you
can
put
in
some
vegetation
as
barriers
and
make
it
and
green
the
the
streets
a
little
bit
better
hillsdale
has
has
been
a
little
controversial.
It's
been
in
mr
roadshow's
column
a
couple
of
times
in
the
last
couple
of
weeks
and,
most
recently
it
was
a
lot
of
favorable
people
writing
in
so
that
that's
good.
O
O
Do
we
have
a
requirement
that
those
individuals
be
multilingual,
or
do
we
make
sure
that
we
have
language
skills
available
at
our
community
meetings,
or
is
that
up
to
the
council
district
to
kind
of
decide
whether
we're
going
to
need
that
or
not?
I
think
all
of
our
districts
probably
benefit
from
it.
P
But
we
also
every
time
we
do
a
either
information
piece
or
on
website
or
whether
we're
having
community
engagement
through
zoom
or
a
real
person.
Hopefully
we
have
a
full
com,
complement
of
multi-lingual
people
just
to
be
able
to
interpret
or
to
be
able
to
communicate
the
best
way,
so
that
particular
person
we
can't
make
that
person.
You
know
a
staff
person
be
required,
but
we
actually
try
to
do
that
through
a
different.
A
number
of
different
avenues.
O
O
That's
it
for
vision,
zero.
I
have
a
couple
questions
regarding
the
vehicle
abatement
program.
O
I'm
I
know
that
we're
converted
we
heard
a
little
bit
about
it
yesterday
and
that
we're
converting
to
a
hybrid
model
just
not
dependent
on
san
jose
311
and
where
we'll
be
proactively
driving
the
streets
and
having
people
report
in
different
ways.
I
think
that's
important,
but
I
just
want
to
register
a
concern
regarding
311
san
jose
311,
and
that
is
people
file,
a
report
on
3-1-1,
and
then
they
don't
know
what
happens
they
there's
no
follow-up
to
say
they
may
get
a
report
that
it's
closed,
but
that
doesn't
mean
the
vehicle
has
been
removed.
O
It's
so
yeah!
I
I'm
concerned
that
you
continuing
on
with
311,
which
is
a
really
important
tool,
but
to
modify
it
so
that
there
is
some
better
response
and
feedback
to
the
resident.
Who
is
calling
to
register
a
complaint,
so
I
just
want
to
throw
that
out
there,
because
we
hear
often
that
well,
I
filed
it
on
san
jose
311.
Like
you
told
me
to
do,
and
I
haven't.
I
heard
I
next
time
I
checked
it
was
closed,
but
the
vehicle
is
still
there.
O
So
somehow
we
need
to
circle
back
with
the
resident
and
say
what
we've
done
and
and
and
how
we've
done
it.
P
Right,
another
good
question
and
I'm
glad
you're
pointing
it
out
so
so
I
can
clarify
what
we're
what
we're
proposing
in
this
budget
and
how
to
how
to
manage
and
actually
modify
the
whole
vehicle
abatement
program
includes
both
that
proactive
driving
around
which
our
our
inspectors
or
our
parking
compliance
boat
will
actually
be
out
in
neighborhoods
on
a
proactive
basis.
P
Then
our
officers
are
going
to
be
out
there
to
abate
that
what
we
were
trying
to
do
is
modify
from
the
pre-covered
era.
When
we
were
responding
to
about
you
know,
roughly
60
000
requests
a
year
and
we
were
towing,
maybe
4
000
vehicles
a
year,
which
is
about
seven
percent
of
that
that
sixty
thousand
so
the
rest
of
them.
We
were
just
chasing
people
around
the
neighborhoods
in
terms
of
cars
being
parked
for
a
longer
period
of
time.
P
So
we're
trying
to
do
is
be
a
little
bit
more
efficient,
more
proactive
and
a
little
bit
more
active
in
terms
of
trying
to
trying
to
get
to
these
some
of
these
neighborhoods
that
don't
normally
respond
to
this
sort
of
thing.
So
to
answer
your
question
we
are
going
to
modify.
P
P
F
Thank
you,
I'm
going
to
begin
with
transportation,
so
I've
been
hearing
just
some
really
good
work
in
your
department,
john,
around
equity.
Now
that
you've
made
a
recruitment
effort
to
bring
in
folks
onto
task
force
and
which
is
really
wonderful.
I
think
all
of
our
departments
should
do
the
same
and
very
proactive
on
your
end.
So
I'm
wondering
how
are
you
incorporating
what
you're
learning
from
some
of
these
task
force
into
your
proposed
budget.
P
Oh
really
good
question:
let
me
jump
in
on
that
just
to
explain
a
little
bit
what
we've
done
now
for
a
couple
of
different
big
efforts
that
we've
done
citywide.
So
we
first
started
doing
this
on
the
bike
plan
that
was
adopted
by
the
council
last
year,
where
we
actually
engaged
our
community
organizations
to
participate,
and
actually
we
pay
them
to
actually
be
our
eyes
and
ears
out
there
for
community
engagement.
P
So
we
would,
we
would
have
non-profits
that
were
part
of
our
team
for
community
engagement,
so
we
made
sure
that
we
got
out
to
engage
community
that
was
really
important
to
us,
so
not
just
the
normal
folks
that
might
be
showing
up
for
a
bike
community
meeting,
but
we
really
got
out
there.
So
we
used
non-profits
in
those
areas
that
were
community
organizations
to
really
get
out
there.
P
We're
also
doing
that
same
sort
of
thing
on
the
whole
citywide
access
mobility
plan
to
really
to
really
engage
in
terms
of
the
whole
mobility
changes
that
we
want
to
do
so
what
we're
doing
is
actually
getting
real
feedback.
That
then
goes
into
our
budgeting
and
our
our
practice
and
where
we're
going
to
focus
those
resources.
P
Probably
the
areas
that
are
we're
really
focused
on
most
is
in
our
safety
program.
All
those
areas
that
we're
hearing
about
in
these
neighborhoods,
where
traffic
safety
is
a
high
priority.
You
just
heard
about
the
vision.
Excuse
me
the
vehicle
abatement
effort
as
well
and
then
in
pavement,
while
we're
using
the
best
data
that
we
have
to
date.
We
know
that
we
have
to
do
more
than
that.
We're
using
mtc's
community
of
concern,
mapping
to
see
that
we
make
sure
we're
hitting
all
of
those
areas
that
haven't
had
that
service
for
a
while.
P
We
committed
to
doing
that
in
the
t
e
meeting
just
this
year,
so
we're
going
to
be
doing
that
in
the
next
upcoming
year,
so
we're
using
both
their
community
organizations
and
more
data
sources
to
actually
make
some
of
these
decisions
in
budget
priority
locations
and
where
we
do.
This
service
hope
that
answered
your
question.
F
Yes,
just
really
wonderful.
I
I
think
that
this
is.
This
is
something
that
you
know
I've
been
asking
in
other
areas
about
how
do
we
engage
folks?
How
do
we
bring
them
into
our
fold?
I
think
that's
a
wonderful
way
of
doing
that,
john,
very,
very
out
of
the
box,
thinking
in
terms
of
connecting
with
some
of
those
agencies
to
bring
people
in,
because
those
agencies
knows,
or
those
community
groups
know
our
community
the
best
right.
F
We
can't
know
everyone
across
the
city,
and
so
I
think,
that's
a
great
use
of
our
resources,
and
I
really
appreciate
that
effort
and
and
and
and
really
just
the
the
equity
centering
that
you're
doing
in
the
work
that
that
that
your
department
is
completing.
F
I
wanted
to
ask
about
also
about
our
streets
pavement
work.
I
saw
that
on.
I
think
it
was
on
page
nine
of
the
csa
overview.
There
was
no
saving.
There
was
a
savings
good
lord.
Where
did
I
have
it?
There
was
a
there
was
a
savings.
I
think
it
went
from
10
million
to
9
million
at
the
top
of
my
head.
Does
that
represent
this
reduction?
Does
that
represent?
F
Maybe
potentially
some
savings
that
you're
seeing
in
the
work
that
you're
doing
oh
page,
five
yeah,
so
it
has
pavement
maintenance
in
the
1920
year
it
was
10
million
256
and
then
in
this
forecasted
21
22
fiscal
year
it
is
9
million
589.
F
So
I
just
wonder
is:
is
this
some
of
the
savings
that
you're
seeing
because
of
the
lack
of
work
people
have
and
and
maybe
lower
estimates
or
or
I
mean
you
tell
me-
why
are
you
seeing
that.
P
Let
me
are
you
in
the
capital
program
or
operating.
You
must
be
in
capital,
probably
right,
but
but
anyway,
I
think
I
can
answer
the
question
and
if
I
can't.
M
P
One
of
my
staff
can
jump
in
so
in
in
general
if,
if
the
question
was
around
the
payment
program
that
we're
doing
annually
yeah
so
over
the
last
two
years,
we've
actually
seen
quite
a
bit
of
bid
savings.
These
are
all
projects
that
we
contract
out
and,
as
you
know,
as
we
bring
all
these
large
contracts
forward,
we
have
been
seeing
some
very,
very
good
bids
over
the
last
two
years,
so
we've
experienced
savings
in
the
payment
program
from
what
we
budget
to
what
we're.
With
actual.
P
F
Yeah
and
you
know
what
and
forget
my
line
item
citation,
it
is
the
wrong
yet
you're,
absolutely
right,
it's
operating,
but
but
if
rick
or
jessica
or
you
know,
whoever
yeah.
Q
Sure,
thank
you
for
the
question.
Councilmember
rick,
scott
deputy
director
over
infrastructure,
maintenance,
ndot
and,
as
john
has
mentioned,
the
bids
over
the
last
few
years
have
been
lower
than
our
estimates.
We
were
experiencing
the
opposite
trend
prior
to
that,
and
so
what
we
generally
try
to
do
when
that
happens
is
either
find
a
way
to
expedite
some
projects
that
are
planned
for
the
out
years
or
you
know.
Ultimately,
it
can
get
re-budgeted
so
that
we
are
able
to
use
that
funding
and
invest
directly
back
into
the
infrastructure
the
following
year.
Q
So
a
couple
of
ways
we're
doing
that,
for
example,
in
this
current
year.
Typically,
our
construction
season
starts.
We
don't
really
start
paving
until
about
june,
most
years,
we're
already
30
miles
into
our
program
this
year,
and
that's
that's
in
large
part,
because
we've
done
two
things.
We
have
we've
piloted
a
multi-year
project
and
some
of
our
residential
streets.
So
essentially
with
that,
we've
engaged
a
contractor
for
a
number
of
years.
Q
We're
able
to
exercise
an
option
to
keep
them
on
for
a
following
year
and
we
can
just
get
started
as
soon
as
the
weather
is
favorable.
So
that's
one
way
to
expand.
You
know
future
year,
funding
that
that
is
saved
and
another
one
is
to
just
expedite
projects.
So
monterey.
Road,
for
example,
is
one
that
we
had
originally
planned
for
this
year
and
we
we
saw
there
was
a
surplus
kind
of.
We
were
looking
at
that
trend
about.
Q
F
Great,
thank
you
rick.
I
I
know
that
we've
talked
about
this
in
the
past,
about
having
a
bit
more
focus
on
local
contractors
and
local
workers,
and
and
since
you
have
a
multi-year
contract
in
place,
I
hope
that
whatever
those
end
and
then
a
new
one
begins
or
as
you're
gearing
up
for
additional
ones.
If,
if
that's
the
case
that
that
there
be
a
heavier.
F
In
in
the
effort
of
of
making
sure
that
we
employ
our
residents
and
and
are
part
of
that,
recovery
effort
right,
infrastructure
projects
are
always
important
too
to
recovery.
So
I
know
that
you
know
this
and
just
just
friendly
reminder.
F
So
the
the
last
thing
on
on
transportation
is
just
really
a
kudos
on
the
on
the
pci,
and
I
believe
this
you
have
this
upcoming
year
or
one
percentage
goal.
I
think
every
year
you've
had
an
increase
of
one
percent
for
a
goal
of
seventy
percent
total
and
so
just
just
really
great
work.
I
know
that
my
residents
are
absolutely
happy
when
they
have
been.
F
You
know
complaining
about
our
roads
for
in
our
streets,
especially
our
streets,
our
neighborhood
streets
for
a
very
long
time
and
they're
at
least
maybe
focusing
on
on
some
other
different
issues
other
than
our
streets.
So
so
thank
you
for
that
and
then
I'm
going
to
ask
some
questions
about
airport,
but
I'll
wait
until
my
next
turn,
because
I
know
my
time
is
up.
Thank
you
so
much.
D
Thank
you,
councilman
we'll
come
right
back
to
you
at
the
end,
councilmember
pros.
G
Yeah,
thank
you
mayor
a
couple
questions
and
appreciate
that
the
dialogue
thus
far
you
know.
G
Know
I
think,
somebody's
not
a
mute
all
right.
So
in
regards
to
vision,
zero,
I
see
we
have
the.
G
I
don't
know
if
it's
actually
an
increase,
because
I
know
we
had
some
one-time
funding
as
well
last
year
for
for
staff
can
conjunct?
Can
you
can
you
answer?
That
is
that?
Are
we
looking
at
an
actual
increase,
or
are
we
just
maintaining
the
level
of
staff
that
we've
had
before.
P
We
well,
we
are
trying
to
increase
that
with
with
these
funds
so
that
we
can
deliver
the
program,
we're
also
having
to
now
add
to
it,
and
I
think
we
talked
about
this
at
the
teeny
committee
as
well.
The
the
the
new
issues
regarding
sideshows
and
other
dangerous
conditions
so
we're
having
to
pull
some
of
the
same
staff
that
were
doing
vision,
zero,
quick,
build
and
put
them
into
those
types
of
improvements
and
little
you
can
add
anything
you
want.
But
but
yes
it's
it's
now.
P
It
is
a
priority
of
the
council,
the
city
and
us
to
actually
put
enough
resources
to
address
those
safety,
as
well
as
the
sideshow
projects.
G
Okay,
and-
and
I
know
we
had
also
had
the
conversation
at
tne
in
regards
to
you-
know
if
you
had
any
more
capacity
right,
if
we
were
to
add
some
dollars
for
actual
capital
dollars
for
these
projects.
Did
you
have
capacity,
and
I
think
you
were
saying
that
you
don't
have
the
capacity
you
know
to
kind
of,
I
think
advance
a
lot
of
those
projects,
but
you
would
have
capacity
if
we
were
to
increase
some
of
the
capital
dollars
to
to
do
some
of
those
projects,
maybe
quicker,
which
obviously
that's
the
that's
been.
G
The
the
interest
we've
heard
from
our
community
members
right,
especially
loved
ones
of
those
that
have
have
actually
died,
and
that
the
main
interest
right
is
that
they
are
saying.
How
can
we
do
this
more
quickly,
right
because
they're,
very
supportive
of
our
business
engineering
program
and
these
quick
build
projects?
But
the
idea
is
that
they're,
looking
at
it
as
a
multi-year
program.
N
Thank
you,
lilly
lim,
deputy
director
of
traffic
operations
and
safety.
As
for
the
vision,
zero
program,
councilmember
perales,
we
had
talked
about
creating
a
quick
strike
team
that
is
more
focused
on
quick
delivery,
rather
than
our
current
model,
where
we
have
a
team
that
is
doing
holistic
work
from
planning
to
data
analysis
to
engineering,
and
that
was
based
on
the
early
model
early
year
of
investment,
not
knowing
how
much
money
we
would
have
in
out
years.
N
We
made
those
positions
in
a
temporary
form
and
had
them
do
everything
and
moving
forward
as
more
funding
years
are
become
committed.
We
can
structure
our
staffing
model,
to
which
one
is
focused
on
more
the
planning,
the
engineering,
the
the
deep
dive
data
focus,
work
and
a
team
that
is
very
much
focused
on
just
getting
the
projects
out,
and
I
would
welcome
that
opportunity.
G
Okay,
and-
and
I
was
talking
to
john
about
it
in
t
as
well
trying
to
get
an
idea
on
you
know
what
what
do
we
think
we,
you
know
we
have
capacity
to
to
take
on
and
really
I'm
thinking,
not
necessarily
even
out
of
our
own
budget,
but
say
we
were
able
to
identify
more
grants
or
something
like
that
and
and
you
know,
could
we
could
we
add,
you
know
advance
some
of
the
work
that
we've
been
planned
out
to
do
over
the
next.
G
I
believe,
four
years
now
you
know
if
we
got
another
million
dollars
or
a
couple
million
dollars.
Could
we
bake
that
into
the
current
staff
capacity.
N
I
think
we
could
we
would
be
limited
in
how
much
we
can
do
more
of.
We
are
absolutely
pursuing
grant
monies
and
you're,
seeing
a
lot
of
like
quick
strike
monies
coming
in
atp
monies
towards
our
vision,
zero
and
bike
network
streets.
N
But
I
at
this
point
I
would
say
the
staff
is
very
much
at
capacity
or
exceeding
capacity
for
our
ability
to
deliver
them
in
a
what
I
consider
timely
within
12
to
18
months,
and
that
is
also
because
of
the
the
added
bds
that
also
isn't
part
of
our
normal
workload,
but
would
have
to
be
fit
into
existing
resources.
N
G
Okay,
thank
you.
Yeah
well,
in
that
case,
obviously
happy
to
see
the
increase
that
we
have
in
in
staffing
this
coming
year
and
looking
forward
to
being
able
to
see
some
progress
on
on
more
of
those
those
quick
build
projects.
Next
question
was
in
regard
to
the
quiet
zone
and.
F
G
That's
correct
4.7
million
okay
yeah,
and
that
is
to
to
be
able
to
accomplish
the
short-term
sort
of
quiet
zone
goals
that
we
have,
that
we've
been
working
vigorously
on
to
try
and
attempt
something
quicker.
Is
that
correct.
P
It's
also
a
customer,
yes,
john
rusto
again,
and
it's
not
only
that,
but
also
that
that
longer
term
solution
at
seventh
and
jackson
that
we're
really
focused
on
to
get
the
quiet
zone
put
in
place.
It's
also
probably
some
a
very
good
partial
funding
to
get
that
going.
We're
also
seeking
other
funds
to
complete
that
funding
picture.
But
it's
not
only
the
short
term,
but
it's
hopefully
get
that
long-term
improvements
as
well.
B
B
Two
quiet
zones,
one
along
with
the
sona
light
rail
and
freight
corridor,
as
well
as
the
warm
springs
quiet
zone
that
we're
pursuing
okay.
G
Okay,
great
thank
you
and
then
I
was
looking
couldn't
find
it,
but
I'm
looking
to
see
where
the
sort
of
the
traffic
calming
dollars
are
that
gets
allocated
for
each
council
district
to
make
use
of
I
I
saw
the
additional
dollars
that
were
asked
for
by
like
myself
and
councilmember
davis
in
the
past
year's
budget,
as
one
time
asks,
but
is
somebody
can
somebody
point
me
to
where
I
find
where
that
is
in
the
in
the
budget?.
N
Councilmember
paralysis,
it
would
be
under
the
pedestrian
safety
enhancement.
I'm
looking
for
the
page
number,
but
that's
yeah
I'll.
Look
at
the
patient.
G
And
it
would
be
in
the
the
the
capital
budget
document
right
that
is
correct,
yep,
okay
and.
F
K
And
councilmember,
just
as
a
reminder,
we
have
a
deep
dive
into
capital
tomorrow
for
tomorrow's
studies,
I'm
sure
staff
is
happy
to
answer
the
question.
G
Oh,
I'm
sorry
am
I
I'm
am
I
am.
I
am
I
my
head
of
the
game
here.
So
that's
on
the
agenda
for
tomorrow,
you're
saying
all
right.
Well,
that
was
that
actually
has
been
the
focus
of
my
conversation
here.
I'll
save
that
question
I'll
ask
the
same
question
tomorrow.
So
maybe,
if
snap
can
find
that
point
me
out
to
where
that
that
line
item
is
I'll,
bring
that
question
up
tomorrow.
N
G
Okay
thanks
and
that's
it
for
questions
down
there.
F
Thank
you.
So
I
had
a
question
about
on
page
nine
of
the
overview
for
transportation
and
aviation
services.
There
is
a
cost
to
airlines
of
operating
at
the
airport
is
competitive
with
other
other
airports
and
the
airline
cost
per
and
playing
passenger.
F
F
H
So,
council,
member
john
aiken,
director
of
aviation,
the
cost
per
plane
passenger,
is,
is
a
calculation
between
our
overall
cost
to
the
airlines,
divided
by
the
in
plane,
passengers,
and
so
during
fy20.
H
Our
passengers
dropped
off
dramatically
our
costs.
We
did
the
best
we
could
to
mitigate
them,
so
the
number
elevated
to
25
and
then
to
you,
know,
probably
43.
By
the
end
of
the
time
we
closed
the
books
for
20.
when
we.
S
H
At
21
we're
estimating
our
passengers
going
up
to
almost
doubling
from
fy20.
H
From
fy21
will
double
to
fy22,
so
that's
why
our
rates
per
emplainment
will
come
back
down
into
the
20
range.
Our
costs
are
relatively
the
same
from.
F
So
there
isn't
any
additional
funding:
we're
not
subsidizing
per
se
that
cost
for
our
customers.
It
is
simply
because
more
people
are
interested
in
flying.
Maybe
the
the
great
vaccination
rates
that
that
we're
seeing
so
far
is.
This
is
just
your
estimate
of
of
that
increased
customer.
B
F
H
Significantly
and
we're
just
we're
forecasting
that
trend
to
to
stay
at
a
certain
level
to
to
get
us
to
almost
a
doubling
of
passengers
for
22.
and.
K
B
H
Talk
about
additional
funding,
we
do
have
some
of
our
cares:
grant
money
plugged
into
the
22
budget.
We
had
a
certain
amount
plugged
into
21
and
we
held
some
in
reserve
because
we
did
not
feel
that
everything
would
be
perfect
by
this
summer,
and
so
we
held
some
back
so
that
we
could
insert
it
into
the
22
budget.
Also,
so
that
helped
drive
our
costs
that
go
to
the
airlines
down
and
then
the
increased
expectation
is
why
that
cpe
comes
to
a
lower
number.
F
Okay,
so,
ultimately
the
savings
will
be
for
our
customers
in,
in
the
end
that
that's
great,
and
so
why
is
the
projected?
Why
would
the
projected
five-year
goal
be
20
20?
Wouldn't
it
just
be
some?
Wouldn't
it
be
based
on
what
the
cons
you
know,
what
what's
driving
the
the
need
and
the
want
of
the
consumer
rather
than
what
we
see
as
a
goal.
H
Like
no,
the
the
cost
per
in
plane
passenger
is
a
a
a
cost
that
the
airlines
pay
us
for
every
pa.
It's
they
don't
even
actually.
Okay.
M
H
H
Jose's
efficiencies
and
cost
awareness
against
oakland
or
san
francisco
or
in
the
city
or
wherever.
So
it's
not
really
a
number
that
the
passenger
would
feel,
although
when
an
airport
is
more
efficient
and
lower
cost,
the
airline
can
then
lower
the
pairs
a
little
bit
because
the
airline's
not
so
expensive.
So
it
would
indirectly
save
money
for
the
passenger.
F
Okay,
thank
you
so
much
for
clarifying
that,
and
the
last
question
I
have
around
airport
is
around
the
the
passengers
have
a
positive
experience.
When
using
the
airport
we
we
had
a
72
percent,
which
is
which
is
great,
for
you
know
for
the
time
reflected
it
was,
you
know
just
terrible,
and
but
we
estimate
66,
we
estimated
66,
I
guess
a
low
bar
for
for
us
and
we're
estimating
77
percent.
F
I'm
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
is
this:
are
we
estimating
77,
because
maybe
some
of
the
restaurants
and
shopping
facilities
inside
the
airport
aren't
going
to
be
as
open
or
there's
not
going
to
be
as
many?
But
why
are
we
projecting
a
77
percent
for
this
upcoming
year?.
H
I
think
it's
a
number
of
factors
and
in
fact
we
follow.
We
do
surveys
about
our
our
concessions
and
stuff
like
that
to
get
a
feel
of
where
the
passengers
are,
but
it's
also
with
covid
and
the
maps
and
lines
at
the
checkpoint,
just
a
general
change
in
our
environment.
Right
when
you
decide
to
go
to
fly
this
thanksgiving
to
see
you.
H
You
you
have
a
different
expectation
with
the
covid
thing
around
you
that
might
not
reflect
as
well
in
the
in
the
raiding
of
the
airport
right,
because
it's
a
little
tougher
to
get
here
and
get
through
the
process.
I.
M
F
S
M
F
B
F
M
Hello,
this
is
molly,
and
I
have
a
couple
of
call.
I
am
this
is
my
public
comment.
First
of
all,
the
department
of
transportation
is
to
be
commended
on
the
racial
equity
work,
and,
what's
unfortunate
is
the
what's
unfortunate.
M
Is
the
fact
that
I'm
I'm
going
to
pull
over
here
for
a
moment?
Thank
you.
I
apologize.
So
the
exclusion
of
people
with
disabilities
is
a
huge
oversight.
It's
missing
from
the
contractors
and
the
procurement
it's
missing
from
the
ideas
of
mobility
and
accessibility
and.
M
That
just
blows
me
away
actually
and
I'm
I'm
also
a
parent
whose
son
died
so
vision.
Zero
means
a
lot
to
me
and
I
really
do
think
that
what
it
should
also
mean
is
that
the
priority
for
people
with
disabilities,
including
those
without
visible
disabilities,
are
also
recognized.
I'm
kind
of
blown
away
by
the
fact
that
we
don't
have
the
the
surveys
completely
exclude
wheelchair
users
or
mobility
impairments,
and
I
would
have
thought
this
would
have
been
on
forefront
of
mine
from
the
lawsuit
that
was
settled
in
the
fall.
M
So
I
am
gonna
leave
it
at
that
and
just
say
that
there's
so
much
work
to
do,
and
this
should
be
part
of
every
department's
budget,
but
especially
department
of
transportation,
so
use
that
great
start.
You've
got
on
on
equity
and
do
it
to
be
intersectional.
Please.
D
Ollie
we'll
come
back
to
you
on
that
last
point.
I'm
gonna
raise
a
question
on
that.
I
think
that
will
be
relevant
to
the
point
you
just
raised.
Mr
beekman.
A
Hi,
thank
you,
blair,
beekman
here,
molly
mcleod
is
offering
some
really
nice
public
comment.
Thank
you,
yeah.
Her
last
public
comment
really
interested
myself
too.
Her
last
words.
Thank
you
for
this
item.
You
know
to
just
kind
of
mention
words
from
my
previous
item.
I
just
I'm
very
much
of
a
thank
you
that
as
city
government
you're,
taking
some
really
important
steps
to
actively
describe
in
in
public
meetings
that
we
have
to
be
possibly
preparing
for
upcoming
natural
disaster,
and
I
you
know
my
words,
I
don't
mean
to
startle.
A
I
just
simply
want
to
learn
how
it
can
help
the
process
of
a
more
open
dialogue
and
it
can
be
safe
to
talk
about
and
and
safe
to
talk
about
openly
and
that's
my
goal
and
that
that
way
we
can
prepare
better
and
bring
out
better
practices
and
are
better
persons,
and
that's
my
idea
and
goal
and
what
I
say
it's
a
bit
yeah,
I
I
don't
mean
to
startle.
So
thank
you
with
53
seconds.
I
wanted
to
offer
that
you
know
you're
working
on
vision,
zero
issues.
A
As
always,
you
know
my
speech
by
now:
open
public
policies
and
accountability
with
technology
they
are,
they
are,
are
better
practices
of
local
democracy
and
it's
working
to
work
that
as
a
local
community
it
it
develops
ideas
of
peace
and
it
develops
ideas
of
sustainability
and
and
neighborhood
safety
and
community
harmony
and
those
are
all
the
characteristics
of
vision,
zero
and
helping
to
bridge
the
digital
divide.
So
I
really
hope
you
learn
how
to
include
open
public
policies
and
all
your
vision,
zero
work
and
with
the
airport
issues.
A
D
You
I'd
like
to
come
back
on
the
issue
that
was
raised
by
mom
mcleod.
I
was
thrilled
to
see
on
a
downtown
street
not
far
from
me.
Probably
I
don't
know
a
half
dozen
or
more
intersections
just
got
new
ada
compliant
rants
and
john.
If
there's
anyone
on
your
team
rick
who
might
be
able
to
respond,
I
know
we've
gone
through
extensive
study
on
conversion
of
all
of
our
sidewalks
to
become
ada
compliant.
P
Yeah,
yes,
sir,
certainly
mayor
john
wrestler,
director
of
transportation,
and
I
believe
the
speaker
might
have
been
referring
to
that
exact.
We
did
have
a
settlement
in
a
lawsuit
against
the
city
to
actually
convert
all
of
those
intersection
corners
to
ada,
compliant,
curb
ramps
and
many.
B
P
Ago
yeah,
it
was
just
that
recently
finalized
that
we
were
doing
that
so
without
now
through
that
committed
to
actually
doing
that
and
completing
all
the
way
through
everything
in
the
whole
city,
rick
probably
has
the
right
number,
but
we're
doing
about
2,
000
or
so
a
year
through
the
pavement
program,
and
you
see
those
being
done
in
advance
of
the
pavement
work,
so
we're
committed
to
it,
putting
quite
a
bit
of
resources
towards
it
and
it's
really
paying
off
and
we're
actually
seeing
some
really
good
production
from
our
contractors
and
our
team.
For
that.
P
With
regard
to
some
of
the
other
items
that
the
speaker
might
be
referring
to
certainly
wanna,
we
will
look
back
at
our
surveys
and
our
outreach
in
some
of
our
other
program
area,
things
that
we're
doing
we
we
do
have
through
our
engagement
with
those
community
organizations.
We
are
engaged
with
silicon
valley,
trying
to
remember
the
name
of
of
that,
but
they're,
an
organization
that
helping
us
with
the
access
mobility
plan.
P
The
silicon
valley,
independent
living
center,
is
one
of
those
community
organizations,
but
I
think
we
can
always
look
to
do
better
I'll.
Take
a
look
at
what
she
was
also
referring
to
in
terms
of
some
of
our
surveys,
to
make
sure
we're,
including
all
disabilities
in
terms
of
getting
the
input
as
well
rick.
If
you
want
to
add
any
of
the
details
of
the
ada
compliance.
Q
Yeah
sure,
john,
so
we
as
part
of
the
settlement
that
was
referred
to,
we
are
going
to
be
working
on
an
updated,
ada
transition
plan
that
will
be
coming
to
the
council
in
the
next
year.
But
essentially
we
are.
We
are
definitely
on
an
expedited
progress
to
to
get
the
complete
the
city
completely
converted
and
appropriately
updated
faster
than
we
had
previously
shot
for
in
our
2010
ada
transition
plan.
Q
I
will
also
add
that,
in
addition
to
the
significant
pavement
maintenance
alignment
and
the
investments
there
there's
an
additional
program,
we
call
program
access
that
does
build
ramps
in
routes
or
locations
that
are
specifically
required
by
residents
that
are
that
need
them
in
those
areas.
So
that's
that's
something
that
we're
happy
to
follow
up
with
anyone
who
needs
ramsey.
You
know.
Obviously
we
want
to
update
the
entire
city,
but
there
are
areas
that
are
prioritized
for
more
expedited
installations
and
we're
keep
we're
able
to
do
that
if
we
know
where,
where
those
are
required.
D
Thanks
rick
and
my
recollection
was:
we
actually
did
some
study
to
analyze
where
we
would
focus
those
resources
based
on
where
residents
have
mobility
challenges.
Is
that
right.
Q
What
what
the
study
was
able
to
provide
us
with
were
just
essentially
the
which
ramps
were
non-existent
but
should
exist,
which
ramps
were
there,
but
not
quite
in
compliance
with
the
most
updated
code
and
then
which
ramps
were
fully
updated?
You
know
as
to
whether
they
were
able
to
align
that
with
which
residents
live
where
and
where
the
need
might
be
for
people
to
access
specific
areas.
You
know
I
I
don't
know
if
it's
got
that
level
of
granularity
of
detail.
D
Q
D
I
think
that,
thank
you
that's
very
helpful.
I
mean
14
million
dollars
in
2
000
ramps
a
year,
though
we'd
all
love
to
be
doing
more
and
going
faster.
I
think
that's
that's
pretty
significant
and
and
finally
rick.
I
just
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
you
and
john
the
rest
of
the
team.
D
There
were
some
poorly
paved
streets
not
too
far
from
me,
where
the
recent
repaving
seemed
to
be
less
than
adequate,
and
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
we
went
back
and
hounded
the
contractor
and
told
them
to
do
it
right.
So
I
really
appreciate
the
attention
quality,
councilman,
foley.
O
Thank
you.
I
just
have
one
question
regarding
our
recycle
rates
going
up
that
we
posted.
D
O
D
O
D
J
O
R
Remember
fully
valerie
osmond
with
environmental
services
deputy
director
and
if
you
recall,
back
in
february,
we
brought
forward
a
proposed
estimated
rate
increase
of
21
percent
and
at
the
april
12
council
study
session,
we
with
your
guidance
delved
into
that
a
little
deeper
and
found
some
cost
savings
and
we're
able
to
work
that
down
to
17
by
drawing
down
on
the
operations
and
maintenance
reserve
fund
and
also
dipping
into
the
ending
fund
balance.
So
right
now
we
are
holding
at
17
percent
proposed.
O
Okay,
I'm
just
going
to
echo
a
comment
I
made
yesterday
that
or
at
the
council
meeting
I
forget:
we've
we've
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
rate
increases.
I
know
council
member
uranus
is
going
to
bring
up
valley,
waters
rate
increase.
There's
that
rate
increase.
There's
the
san
jose
water,
district's
rate
increase.
O
There's
the
recent
change
in
san
jose
clean
energy.
So
I
would
really
encourage
us
to
dig
deeper
and
see
if
we
could
possibly
reduce
that
a
little
bit
more.
I
know
dollar
for
dollar,
it's
not
a
lot
of
money,
but
it
does
add
up
to
our
residents
and
it's
a
expense
that
then
gets
passed
on
to
our
tenants
in
many
cases
where
it
cannot
be
paid
for
by
the
tenants
that
that
that
even
that
nominal
increase,
so
I
just
want
to
put
it
out
there
that
it's
really
important.
O
O
O
D
Thank
you,
councilman
awareness.
F
Great,
thank
you,
craig
segway,
councilmember
foley.
F
Yes,
we're
all
very
concerned
about
the
rates
and
those
increases
and
what
those
represent
to
our
residents,
and
so
I
was
asking
about
what
the
update
was
on
those
rates
and
what
we've
learned
recently
from
valley
water,
if
anything
on
their
wholesale
rates
and
if
it's
not
what
we
expected.
If
it's
bad
news
for
our
residents,
what
are
we
going
to
do
next?
What
can
we
do
to
reduce
our
water
rate
increases?
F
If
anything,
I
know,
there's
reserves
that
we
might
be
able
to
dip
into
as
well
as
I
think,
there's
some
programs,
I'm
not
sure
dave.
If
you
explored
it,
I
forwarded
you,
an
email
that
could
explore
some
some
programs
that
could
subsidize
water
rates
for
for
our
residents
through,
I
think
valley,
water.
J
Yeah
thanks
councilmember.
Certainly
the
team
has
been
evaluating
a
lot
of
options.
I
think
the
team
will
probably
right
now
tell
you
what
what
the
valley
water
did
this
week
in
terms
of
their
actions,
which
I
I
don't
think
are
going
to
be
that
helpful
to
us.
But
maybe
can
I
look
to
you
nap
or
lee
yeah.
C
Jeff's
jeff's
on
I
can
do
that
yeah.
Thank
you,
jeff.
Thank
you
and
thank
you.
Member
for
the
question.
Jeff
provinzano
deputy
director
for
municipal
water
system.
Yes,
on
tuesday
valley,
water
board
wholesale
rates
next
year
of
9.1
a
little
bit
lower
than
the
9.6
max,
they
were
indicating
we
did
rerun
those
numbers
and
see
if
that
was
going
to
have
any
effect
and
and
the
the
lower
wholesale
rate
we'll
save
about
90
000
in
in
some
of
the
additional
costs
that
we're
looking
at
next
year,
so
a
very,
very
insignificant.
C
Our
our
total
cost
in
a
typical
operating
year
is
around
50
million,
so
97
90,
90
000
in
savings,
isn't
necessarily
that
much
that
will
change
us
from
a
financial
perspective.
As
a
reminder,
we
have
two
main
cost
drivers
next
year.
The
first
one
is
wholesale
water
rates,
which
is
like
65
of
our
operating
costs
on
a
given
year,
and
so
that's
a
pretty
big
hit.
C
C
But
I
will
just
maybe
add
a
general
note
that
yeah
yes,
internally,
we've
been
working
through
multiple
departments
throughout
the
city.
I've
been
tracking
potential
funding
sources
to
help
offset
covert
related
revenue
shortfalls
in
the
form
of
assisting
low-income
rate
payers,
utility
bills,
rent
and
many
other
items.
C
Unfortunately,
a
lot
of
those
potential
sources
aren't
available
yet
where
we
are
especially
where
we
are
in
this
budget
cycle,
and
so
we
have
to
track
that
really
closely
as
we
go
forward,
but
there
may
not
be
a
potential
in
the
next
couple
weeks
for
that
that
funding
to
come
in
and
maybe
dave,
maybe
some
others
could
definitely
jump
in
maybe
jim.
If
he
has
any
information
on
some
of
the
federal
opportunities
that
might
be
out
there.
F
Well
before
before
jim
moves
on
into
federal
jeff,
I'm
really
grateful
that
you're
looking
into
all
these
different
sources
and
possibilities
for
our
residents,
so
that
we
can,
they
may
not
feel
a
huge
increase
if,
if
it's
not
lined
up
well
for
us
to
find
out
about
the
potential
funding
sources
that
you
spoke
about,
do
you
expect
it
to
be
later
on
this
year,
and
I
guess,
could
we
do
something
in
the
meantime,
so
that
our
residents
don't
feel
any
any
shifts
in
their
rates.
C
I
think
right
now
we
can
look
at
it
of
course,
going
forward.
We
can
continue
to
have
discussions
internally.
C
The
challenge
I
think
for
us
is
that,
without
knowing
how
much
that
would
be
in
dollar
amount,
the
options
really
available
for
us
are
to
draw
down
upon.
Reserves
are
the
only
source
of
action
we
could
take
internally.
C
That,
though,
brings
up
a
whole
other
series
of
challenges.
Our
reserves
are
set
to
be
our
two-month
of
backup
expenses,
two
months
of
reserves,
we
could
draw
that
down
which
we
always
look
at
by
the
way
in
every
year.
If
that's
a
possibility
to
do
that,
one
of
the
challenges,
I
think
that
we're
facing
is
what
we're
being
told
by
the
whole.
C
I
mean
what
we're
being
told
by
the
wholesalers
is
that
rates
are
going
to
continue
to
go
up
every
year
and
if
we
pull
down
our
reserves
this
year,
really
the
effect
of
that
is
going
to
be.
If
we
don't
get
federal
assistance
in
to
offset
some
of
the
costs,
it's
going
to
then
mean
a
much
much
higher
rate
increase
next
year
to
restore
reserves
or
and
to
compensate
or
to
add
in
that
future
wholesale
rate
increasing-
and
I
think
that's
really
a
challenge
for
us
in
and
it
isn't
a
one-year
blimp
in
cost.
C
F
K
T
And
council
member
arenas-
if
I
could
add
this-
is
nafta
buddha
assistant
director
environmental
services
department.
I
mean.
Certainly
I
realize
you
know,
there's
there's
no
solace
in
me
saying
this
or
consolation,
but
certainly,
I
think
you
know
jeff
valerie.
Our
department
we've
been
as
well
as
the
budget
office
have
been
looking
through
every
couch
cushion.
If
you
will
that
you're
asking
us
to
do
to
see
where
we
can
use
reserves,
use
other
budget
reduce
costs
here,
and
I
we
think
we've
done
that
to
the
best
that
we
can
to
date.
T
The
point
where
you
know
we're
feeling
a
little
uncomfortable
and
but
you
know
we're
willing
to
be
a
little
more
uncomfortable
and
we're
and
we're
doing
that,
but
certainly
we'll
continue
to
do
that,
whether
it
be
on
the
garbage
side,
the
portable
water
side,
you
know
on
the
sanitary
side,
we've
actually
done
that
on
that
end,
at
least
where
we've
kept
that
flat.
This
go
around.
You
know
looking
at
our
reserves,
looking
at
an
opportunity
where
we
had
some
unspent
money
from
previous
years,
but
as
jeff
referenced.
T
You
know
this
is
going
to
compound
on
us
eventually
at
some
point
so,
but
I
I
appreciate
and
hear
you
loud
and
clear,
your
your
your
inquiry
and
request
of
us
and.
K
If
I,
if
I
could,
I
think
what
we
will
you
know
certainly
be
trying
to
do
is
as
part
of
the
recovery
process
is
looking
for
potential.
You
know
programs
to
offset
so
they're,
probably
not
going
to
offset
the
overall
rates,
because
there's
a
lot
of
restrictions
on
that,
but
part
of
our
dive
in
is
trying
to
identify.
You
know
what
what
assistance
programs
could
be
offered
through
some
of
the
federal
refunding
that's
available,
but
something
like
the
american
rescue
plan
for
just
offsetting
rates
probably
is
not
going
to
be
possible.
F
Oh,
I
see
okay
and
lastly
dave
I
I
don't
know
if
you
explored
that
option
with
on
that,
oh
and
we
can
take
this
offline
actually,
but
there's
a
another
option
that
that
I
had
sent
you
some
information
on,
but
we
can.
We
can
talk
offline
on
that
one
unless
you
have
something
to
share.
S
So
we
have
dave-
this
is
lee
silly
wilcox,
deputy
city
manager
right
now
with
a
lot
of
the
residential
assistance
programs
and
the
funding
guidelines.
So
we
have
followed
up
with
valley
water
on
various
proposals.
Jim
is
correct.
S
Any
type
of
black
and
blanket
approach
to
just
rate
reductions
won't
be
possible,
but
we
are
able
to
offer
assistance
to
to
residents
and
so
assets
accessing
those
programs
is
going
to
be
very
important,
and
so
it
is
probably
going
to
come
through
a
variety
of
avenues
either
directly
through
us
or
valley,
water
or
other
non-profit
partners.
That
will
be
providing
residential
assistance
so
we're
working
on
the
logistics
of
that
now
trying
to
roll
it
up.
S
F
Okay,
well
I
I
appreciate
that,
as
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
explore
this
particular
option
that
I
don't
know
that
we
knew
about
before,
or
maybe
maybe
that
our
department
did-
and
I
just
wasn't
aware
of
it,
but
I
appreciate
everybody
trying
to
shake
the
tree
and
and
look
under
every
couch
cushion
because
it
it
is
just
absolutely
important-
I'm
not
going
to
go
into
that
once
again,
but
you
know
that
that
our
families,
their
needs,
are,
are
so
vast
right
now.
F
So
anything
and
everything
that
we
can
do
is
is
greatly
appreciated.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you
so
much
and
and
thank
you
jeff
and
kerry
for
your
leadership
as
well
in
this
in
this
area.
I
know
you've
done
a
lot
of
advocacy
and
a
lot
of
really
intricate
work
and
complex
work,
and
so
I
just
appreciate
it.
Thank
you.
D
Thank
you
councilman,
just
to
add
some
color
to
this
issue
about
you
know
the
challenges
we
have
with
muni
water
rates.
Jeff.
It's
not
just
a
question
of
a
couple
years
of
rate
increases.
They
have
projections
valley,
water
wholesale
rates
are
going
to
increase
nine
percent
or
more
for
the
next
decade
is.
Is
that
right?
Yes,
that's!
Correct!
Okay,
and
I
saw
the
reduction
in
the
9.6
and
9.1,
but
that
actually
wasn't
a
reduction
caused
by
any
reduction
in
costs.
D
Yeah,
fair
enough,
I
yeah
this
is,
I
think,
really
important
for
us
to
get
to
the
bottom
eventually
as
we're
working
through
this,
because
obviously
these
these
wholesale
decisions
are
made
by
valley.
Water
have
huge
impacts
on
us.
The
largest
capital
project.
They've
got
is
two
and
a
half
billion
dollars,
a
pacheco
dam
that
you
know
the
mercury
news
editorial
board
just
decried
as
a
waste
of
money,
sierra
club
has
opposed
supposed
by
save
the
bay
and
a
lot
of
other
groups
and
valley
waters.
D
D
You
know,
continue
to
be
in
conversation
with
valley
water,
because
decisions
they're
making
having
direct
impacts
on
our
operation
of
our
immune
system
and
our
ability
to
provide
water
to
to
our
residents
at
a
reasonable
rate.
So
I
look
forward
to
continue
our
conversations
with
them.
Let's
go
to
consumer.com.
C
Thank
you
and
thank
you
mayor
for
your
advocacy
with
on
the
valley
water
issue
in
the
past
couple
weeks
there
you
know,
I
feel,
like
they're,
being
responsible
with
this
nine
percent
a
year
for
ten
years,
and
it's
of
course
hard
for
us
to
fill
a
gap.
Now
that
we
know
is
going
to
get
even
worse
and
because
rates
will
double
over
at
nine
percent
a
year
rates
will
double
in
less
than
10
years.
C
So
yeah,
you
know
we
we
can
close
the
gap
now
and
it'll
go
up
even
more
later,
but
I
do
want
to
ask
a
question
when
we
talk
about
closing
the
gap
for
our
ratepayers.
These
are
ratepayers
that
get
water
from
san
jose
muni,
but
not
rate
payers.
That
would
get
it
from
the
other
sources
in
san
jose
right.
C
I'll
handle
that
maybe
so
a
good
question
in
general
terms,
and
there
should
be
some
more
information
coming
out
in
the
mbas,
if
they're
not
out
already
somewhere
information
on
this,
but
no
those
those
dollars
could
be
used
for
all
of
san
jose,
depending
on
which
which
bucket
of
money
and
which
program,
and
so
from
a
muni
water
perspective,
we
would
apply
for
hours,
but
that
funding
could
be
available
for
all
san
jose
water
rate
players.
C
Okay,
also,
I
was
gonna.
Add
two.
I'm
sorry,
there's
also
a
state
program
that
is
being
put
together,
which
has
some
more
opportunities
for
for
all
water
rate
fairs,
yeah.
Okay,
that
that's
what
I'd
like
to
see
is
us
pursuing
something
that
will
benefit
everybody
and
obviously
the
other
question
is
from
a
standpoint
of
our
purchase
of
water
as
a
city.
C
I'm
sorry
if
you
maybe
ask
that
question
again
or
well.
K
J
K
Yeah,
I
know
that
we
have
so
we've,
I
think,
on
all
all
sides,
we've
kind
of
taken
that
into
account
so
we'll
see
if
we
have
the
top
of
our
head,
but
so
the
cost,
for
you
know
the
water
utility
to
sort
of
buy
the
water.
I
think
you
know
that's
built
into
the
overall.
You
know
rate
structure
and
then
for
the
city
department
costs
that
is
have.
It
was
actually
a
pretty
substantial
increase
in
the
water
cost.
K
Maybe
we'll
try
to
get
that
for
us
by
the
end
of
the
session
here,
but
yeah,
so
that
you
know
we
try
to
calculate
centrally
based
on
estimated
usage
and
the
actual
the
cost
for
the
utility
water
in
particular.
So
one
way
of
saying
yes,
it
does
impact
us,
that's
built
into
our
base
based
budget
right.
C
C
We
had
also
talked-
or
at
least
it
was
raised
as
a
possibility
of
using
american
rescue
act
money,
I'm
sorry
to
try
to
bring
that
down
a
little
further,
given
that,
at
least
in
my
opinion,
I'm
not
sure
if
everyone
agreed
with
me
or
not,
but
a
lot
of
the
impact,
a
lot
of
the
cost
increases
that
residents
are
seeing
or
that
haulers
are
seeing
from
residential
behavior
is
due
to
covid
and
due
to
change
of
change
in
patterns
that
may
not
be
permanent.
C
So
I
had
you
know,
asked
before
about
whether
we
might
have
some
money
and
how
much
money
we'd
have
to
use
in
our
from
our
results
in
order
to
affect.
Maybe
you
know
one
percent
additional
decreases
for
every
percent.
How
much
that
would
cost
us.
K
So
we
we'll
we'll-
definitely,
you
know,
keep
looking
at
just
to
look
at
the
weights
in
general,
so
we'll
we'll
do
another
scrub
and
we'll
have
another
period
of
data
here
to
see.
If
there's
any
more,
you
know
scrubbing
we,
we
can
do
integrated
waste
management,
trying
to
make
sure
that
we're
meeting
our
what
we
committed
to
to
the
council
to
sort
of
look
up
under
every
every
stone.
K
The
use
of
the
I
mean
our
early
read
of
the
regulations
for
the
american
rescue
plan
looks
like
that's
not
going
to
be
eligible
to
offset
utility
costs
the
rates
themselves.
So,
as
lee
mentioned,
you
know
we're
more
looking
at
pro
programs
that
folks
may
be
eligible
for
to
receive
sort
of
assistance.
We
will
have
an
mba
come
out
that
will
sort
of
identify.
You
know
where
we
think
those
available
pots
are
it's
it's
it's
in
it's
a
process
and
we'll
hope
to
release
that
soon.
C
Okay,
I
know
we're
having
a
obviously
a
more
detailed
conversation
on
this
specific
topic
on
tuesday.
So
if
we
just
have
all
the
information
there
and
then
we'll
probably
spend
more
time
specifically
on
this
figuring
out,
how
we
try
to
mitigate
these
increases
for
our
ratepayers
in
whatever
way
is
possible.
D
Thank
you
other
questions
or
comments.
I
just
had
one
question
about
the
garbage
rate
increase
because
I
know
that's
a
it's
a
really
tough
one
for
us
nap
or
carry
whoever
would
like
to
respond.
D
I
know
we.
We
essentially
forestalled
the
increase
last
year
because
of
the
pandemic,
of
course,
so
we
had
a
zero
percent
last
year
and
obviously
that
builds
up,
and
that
is
created.
That
pressure
has
to
release
at
some
point,
and
now
we
have
a
much
more
substantial
increase.
D
T
Yeah,
I
think
valeria
can
jump
in
our
gym
as
well,
but
reserves
we
have
a
couple
of
reserves
for
o
m
rate
stabilization
that
we
could
use,
and
I
think
that's
what
we're
dipping
into
now,
but
that
too
we
have
to
rebuild
at
some
point
as
well.
It
is
right,
so
it
does
as
you
describe
compound
or
is
the
term
I
use
yeah
so
valerie
anything
to
add.
R
I
R
R
So
that's
kind
of
those
one-time
impact
things
that
we're
going
to
have
to
replenish
and
then
about
a
third
of
the
rate.
Increases
is
coming
from
the
contamination
pricing
and
that
sliding
scale
for
the
recycling
contamination
and
then
about
a
third
of
the
cost
is
coming
from
I'm
just
kind
of
cost
of
living
and
contract.
We
have
new
contract
pricing
that
goes
into
effect
july,
1st
for
all
four
haulers.
K
And
then
maybe
we
we
used
to
have
a
revenue,
stabilization
reserve
that
was
burned
down
a
couple
of
years
ago.
So
only
reserves
left
in
that
fund
is
really
the
operations
maintenance
reserve
who
dug
into
that
a
little
bit
by
a
couple
million
dollars.
So
far
you
know
we'll
look
at
and
see
where
the
ending
the
ending
fund
balances
is
something
something
that
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
squeeze
out
as
much
as
possible
without
hitting
the
reserve.
More
so
we'll
look.
D
At
that
okay,
well,
I
know
we'll
need
that
reserved
for
the
next
emergency
guys.
Another
one
will
come.
Okay,
any
other
questions
where
we
go
to
members
of
the
community.
All
right,
mr
beekman.
A
Hi
blair
beekman
here
you
know
I've
learned
how
you
know
my
my
my
prognostications
of
you
know,
there's
a
very
much
of
a
possible
chance
of
an
earthquake
in
the
year
2023.
A
I
mean
that's,
that's
how
I'm
understanding
and
I've
learned
that
from
reading
over
community
electricity
ideas,
so
you
know
I
I
hope
we,
you
know.
I
hope
I
can
be
talked
to
you
about
this,
this
subject
matter
and
and
learn
to
have
a
decent,
honest
dialogue.
A
You
know,
so
I
can
report
back
to
you.
You
know
not
sound,
weird
or
anything
and
really
add
to
the
dialogue.
That's
trying
to
be
created
for
this
subject,
and
thank
you
that
yourselves
and
city
government
are
trying
to
talk
openly
about
the
subject.
I
hope
we
can
continue
those
good
practices.
A
So
I
wanted
to
talk
about
community
energy
and
subsidies
and
the
use
of
subsidies
east
bay,
community
energy.
This
time
about
six
months
ago,
they
came
up
with
a
really
good
plan
to
offer
it
really
in
a
simplified
way
that
they
are
now
working
with
100,
almost
100
renewable
energy
plans,
by
using
subsidies
and
in
a
way
that
basically
subsidizes
low-income
people,
so
they
hardly
have
any
rate
increase
at
all,
whereas
higher
income
people
who
are
making
money
in
this
time
of
covid
will
be
paying
a
higher
fee.
A
Now,
that's
the
simplified
plan
that
I've
been
trying
to
explain
to
yourselves
these
past
few
weeks
and
months,
you're
explaining
what
you're
going
through
in
san
jose
at
this
time.
I'm
understanding
it
more.
I
hope
this
simple
formula
I've
offered
can
really
help
yourselves
and
really.
We
have
to
really
turn
it
on
how
to
be
more
creative
and
proactive
about
subsidy
use
and
when
we're
doing
that
today.
Thank
you,
yeah
boy,
thanks
for
your
time
and
patience,
thank
you.
D
All
right,
coming
back
now
to
council
dave
we're
just
about
at
the
lunch
hour.
J
Yeah,
so
I
would
propose
that
we
come
back
at
1,
30
and
start
up
with
neighborhood
services
sounds
great.
Let's
do
that.
K
K
So
it
looks
like
you
know,
for
the
water
costs
in
the
general
fund,
that
was
about
additional
840
000,
but
a
lot
of
that
is
attributable
to
the
in
in
increase
in
the
rates.
So
just
wanted
to
have
that
information
available
to
you
and
about
yeah.
So
anyway,
just
wanted
to
pass
that
along.