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City of San José, California
City Council Study Session on Gun Violence Prevention of August 15, 2022
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Present
all
right,
thank
you,
we're
all
here
to
discuss,
gun,
violence
prevention,
and
I
think
this
came
from
a
memorandum
that
was
authored
by
council
member
prolls.
I
think
co-signed
by
several
of
us
to
investigate
other
ways
in
addition
to
the
ones
that
we've
already
ventured
on
to
reduce
gun
violence
in
our
community,
and
I
really
want
to
thank
the
people
who
are
sitting
in
the
box
to-
I
guess
my
right
for
all
their
hard
work.
D
D
E
It's
all
they've
already
been
mentioned
sort
of
the
enormous
public
health
burden
of
gun
violence.
I
just
wanted
to
recognize
that
the
most
common
form
of
firearm
death
is
actually
suicide
in
the
united
states.
That's
true
for
most
communities
and
states,
so
over
24
000
suicide
deaths.
I'm
going
to
focus
more
on
my
attention,
however,
on
homicides
and
interpersonal
violence,
but
you'll
see,
particularly
as
it
relates
to
mass
shooting
that
they're
connecting
pieces
to
suicide
suicidality
as
well,
while
mass
shootings
account
for
very
small
percentage
of
overall
gun
violence.
E
E
This
is
more
limited
to
more
recent
years,
2014
moving
forward
and
in
that
database
they
re
they
identify
or
define
mass
shootings
as
four
or
more
victims
shot,
whether
that's
fatal
or
not,
and
then
there's
a
very
large
publicly
financed
through
the
national
institute
of
justice
project.
Looking
at
fatal
mass
shootings
in
public
settings.
E
E
E
E
E
E
What
they
found
in
this
study
is
that
lower
rates
of
marriage
among
individuals
who
are
black
and
parents
explained
a
large
part
of
the
disparities.
Importantly
immigrant
status
was
actually
protective.
There's
a
lot
of
rhetoric
around
immigration
and
violence.
It
frankly
runs
completely
counter
to
the
actual
data.
E
E
E
E
I
wanted
to
sort
of
give
an
example
that
I
think
localities
should
should
follow
in
order
to
have
this
pragmatic
data
driven
approach
to
addressing
gun
violence,
holding
up
the
city
of
milwaukee
in
in
their
homicide,
review.
Commission
an
approach
that's
been
replicated
in
many
other
places,
it's
a
collaborative
endeavor
to
bring
forward
very
rich
detailed
data
about
all
of
these
incidents
and
the
individuals
involved
in
a
manner
to
not
just
have
data
for
data's
sake,
but
actually
to
inform
decision-making.
E
E
E
There's
been
a
number
of
studies
that
look
at
what
we
call
cleaning
and
greening
changing
these
vacant
lots
into
really
nice
green
spaces
for
communities
very
minimal
costs
reduces
gun
violence
by
eight
percent.
In
one
study
and
again,
this
has
been
replicated
in
other
places
as
well
somewhat
more
costly
intervention
approach,
but
with
still
a
very
high
return
cost
benefit
in
terms
of
reducing
gun.
Violence
is
fixing
up
abandoned
buildings
in
before,
so
that
they
don't
lead
to
more
blight
in
a
neighborhood.
E
One
study
found
a
39
reduction
in
associated
with
this
type
of
strategy,
and
again
this
has
been
replicated
in
other
places
as
well.
Philadelphia
is
a
place.
That's
done
a
lot
of
these
sorts
of
interventions,
and
another
approach
was
to
have
a
special
grant
program
for
low-income
owners
to
keep
up
with
the
structural
repairs
so
that
those
homes
did
not
decrease
their
value
and
ultimately
become
vacant
and
help
drive
down
investments
in
the
community.
E
Those
that
grant
program
was
associated
with
declines
of
in
assaults,
robberies
and
homicides
about
20
percent
or
more
and
violent
crime
rates
were
connecting
this
to
sort
of
foreclosures,
which
is
the
bad
outcome.
The
study
found
that
crime,
violent
crime
was
19
higher
in
those
areas
after
homes
are
foreclosed
and
become
vacant.
E
E
One
is
through
increasing
taxes
to
reduce
consumption.
There's
a
large
public
safety
benefit,
because
alcohol
has
affects
a
lot
of
outcomes.
Car
crashes,
in
particular
the
proportional
effect
or
percentage
effect
on
gun
violence
is
relatively
small,
but
again
because
gun
violence
is
so
costly,
it
is,
is
a
beneficial
cost
beneficial
to
do
so?
E
Reducing
alcohol
availability
in
high-risk
situations,
some
in
some
type
of
sporting
events,
is
one
one
example.
I
want
to
turn
to
problematic
alcohol
outlets.
A
number
of
studies
have
found
across
the
country
in
the
world
that
highly
concentrated
a
great
number
of
alcohol
outlets
are
associated
with
more
violence.
E
Another
important
condition
as
it
relates
to
the
environmental
conditions
that
drive
violence,
of
course,
is
gun,
gun
sales,
but
particularly
gun
sales.
By
what
I'll
just
refer
to
as
problem
dealers,
research
has
shown
that
about
one
percent
of
licensed
dealers
account
for
57
percent
of
guns
connected
to
crime.
E
We
know
that
gun
dealers
play
a
prominent
role
in
gun
trafficking
and
in
a
study
we
did
in
baltimore,
we
found
that
31
percent
of
the
individuals
active
in
the
underground
market
knew
certain
gun
shop.
Employees
would
sell
guns
off
the
books
and
they
were.
It
was
well
known
that
there
were
places
you
could
get
guns
without
background
checks.
E
Another
study
from
from
milwaukee
found
that
even
publicizing
data
on
which
dealers
were
the
problematic
ones
led
to
substantial
reduction
in
the
flow
of
guns
for
use
and
crime.
This
occurred
in
the
late
1990s
in
milwaukee
a
dealer.
There
was
identified
as
the
nation's
number
one
seller
of
gun
of
crime
guns
within
a
week.
They
change
their
practices
and
you
can
see
overnight.
E
You
have
like
a
77
percent
reduction
in
flow
of
guns
coming
from
that
shop
for
criminal
use
when
congress,
rather
than
act
to
address
the
gun,
dealers
simply
block
the
data
to
publicize,
which
were
your
problem
dealers.
We
saw
a
200
percent
increase
in
guns.
Coming
from
this
problematic
gunshot,
badger
guns
and
ammo.
E
E
I've
led
research
in
in
baltimore
over
a
number
of
neighborhoods.
This
is
some
of
our
most
recent
work.
Looking
at
cure
violence
interventions
in
baltimore
in
places
where
the
program's
been
in
place
for
at
least
four
years,
you
see
significant
reductions
in
homicides
in
those
cities,
at
least
within
the
first
four
years.
The
program
is
is
implemented.
E
However,
we
did
see
that
there
was
a
deteriorate.
There
was
a
deterioration.
Excuse
me
in
those
effects
in
many
of
the
communities
over
a
longer
period
of
time,
it
underscores
the
importance
of
effective
investment
management
of
those
programs
and,
quite
frankly,
in
baltimore,
those
were
neglected
in
in
many
instances.
E
Another
strategy
that
was
actually
born
in
in
california
bogans
was
the
sort
of
developer
of
this
approach
in
richmond.
California,
now
has
program
referred
to
as
advanced
peace,
where
they
have
peace
fellowships
again,
it's
geared
towards
the
highest
risk.
People,
in
this
case,
in
investing
in
mentoring,
assistance
with
jobs
other
needs
to
try
to
promote
positive
development.
E
According
to
gun
policy,
we
found
that
handgun
purchaser
licensing
is
the
most
effective
single
policy
to
reduce
gun
violence.
California
has
some
very
strong
laws,
as
it
relates
to
guns,
but
somewhat
mysteriously
to
me
anyway,
is
that
the
strategy
we
find
most
effective,
they
have
not
done,
which
is
handgun
purchaser
licensing.
E
What
we
found
in
connecticut
was
over
a
span
of
22
years,
28
percent,
lower
rates
of
gun,
homicide,
estimated
associated
with
that
law.
And,
conversely,
when
the
policy
was,
the
law
was
repealed.
In
missouri,
we
estimated
a
47
percent
increase
in
firearm
homicide
rates
associated
with
that
law
change.
E
E
E
Shortly
after
the
repeal
we
looked
at
in
baltimore
after
maryland,
adopted
a
purchaser
licensing
law
in
october
of
2013
76
reduction
in
this
indicator
of
guns,
diversions
and
in
our
surveys
of
the
underground
gun
market,
also
found
that
people
reported
it
harder
to
get
guns
in
the
underground
market.
Afterwards,
we
have
studies
that
show
that
this
policy
reduces
gun
trafficking,
homicide,
suicides,
fatal
mass
shootings
and
shootings
involving
law
enforcement,
both
as
victims
and
as
the
ones
shoot
who
are
shooting
civilians.
E
B
Doctor,
thank
you
so
much.
I
appreciate
you
sharing
all
this
wealth
of
research
with
us.
I
know
that
you
have
to
go,
and
so
sarah
suggested
that
we
have
a
brief
opportunity
for
folks
to
weigh
in
with
questions.
If
you
have
some
time
left,
do
you
have
time
with
for
us?
Yes,
that'd!
Be
fine!
Okay,
wonderful!
Thank
you!
Let's
open
it
up,
then,
to
the
council
councilmember.
F
Yeah,
thank
you,
professor
just
a
quick
question
and
you
more
or
less
answered
it
there
on
that
last
slide.
But
from
all
your
research,
I
was
curious
where
you
feel
you
know,
we
can
can
see
the
the
greatest
change
and
positive
change
in
reducing
gun
violence,
and
it
sounds
like
this.
This
statewide
purchasers
see
I'm
blinking
on
the
title.
E
B
B
Okay,
doctor
can
I
just
ask
another
question
about
the
license
thing.
I
was
just
under
the
impression
that
would
be
a
heavy
slog
for
states
today,
legally
or
just
trying
to
understand
that.
That's
really
a
sure
option.
I
know
california
is
preempts
us
from
doing
anything
there
and
be
interested
in
your
thoughts
there.
Yes,.
E
So,
prior
to
the
supreme
court
decision
this
year,
there
have
been
some
challenges
to
purchaser
licensing
laws,
but
they've
survived
all
of
those
challenges.
I've
been
an
expert
witness
in
some
of
those
cases.
The
the
decision
in
bruin
was
focused
on
concealed,
carry
specifically
not
on
purchaser
acquisition.
E
I
and
and
to
be
clear
and
again.
I
think
professor
winkler
will
cover
some
of
this
ground
later,
but
the
justices
did
not
dismiss
and
say
licensing
was
unconstitutional
that
what
they
said
was
discretionary
discretionary
issuance
of
that
or
based
upon
you
know,
some
specific
need
right.
So
licensing
can
and
should,
in
my
opinion,
can
and
should
be
done,
based
upon
risk
and
safety
considerations
rather
than
on
a
special
need,
and
I
think
you're,
on
reasonably
firm
ground
from
a
constitutional
standpoint.
B
E
No
because
again
preemption
is
is
common
in
most
states,
and
so
I
I
don't
think
it's
been
really
an
option
for
localities,
but
of
course,
localities.
You
know
every
major
jurisdiction
has
some
role
in
advocating
at
the
state
level
for
policies
that
they
feel
they
need
in
their
communities
to
keep
them
safe.
E
B
G
G
James
gibbons
shapiro
has
been
with
the
da's
office
for
over
25
years
and
oversees
the
crime
strategies
unit
among
other
units.
He
chairs
the
county's
domestic
violence,
death
review
team.
In
the
annual
effort
to
update
and
revise
the
county's
domestic
violence,
protocol
for
law
enforcement
and
the
child
abuse
protocol
for
law
enforcement,
and
with
that
I'll
turn
it
over
to
james.
H
H
So
you
just
heard
from
peter
that
we
have
a
gun,
related
intelligence
program
and
what
we
do
is
we
use
data
analytics
and
internal
intelligence
sharing
to
go
over
every
gun
crime
in
the
county
to
work
with
our
partners
every
week
on
those
gun
crimes
to
look
at
trends
and
to
try
to
identify
the
places,
the
people,
the
causes
and
the
organizations
that
are
contributing
to
gun
violence
here
in
santa
clara
county
and
our
lead
partner.
Is
the
san
jose
police
department,
we're
so
happy
and
proud
to
have
that
partnership
with
san
jose
pd?
H
Our
work,
the
gun,
related
intelligence
program-
is
not
just
with
san
jose
pd,
but
with
community
groups,
the
gun,
safety,
violence
prevention,
work
group,
the
western
crime
gun
working
group,
the
crime
lab
all
these
different
agencies.
We
work
together
with
so
that
we
can
build
out
the
local
intelligence
data
on
what
to
do
to
solve
gun
crimes
and
to
work
out
strategies
that
are,
as
I
said,
person
based
place
based
and
problem
based.
H
H
H
What
we've
seen
also
is
that
and
you've
heard
this
from
the
previous
speakers.
This
is
consistent
with
national
trends
that
san
jose
isn't
alone,
california,
isn't
alone
and
having
increases
in
gun
violence
across
all
the
different
ways
that
you
might
count
it
from
suicides
with
guns
to
homicides,
with
guns
to
non-fatal
shootings.
H
Enforcement
has
increased
really
dramatically
over
the
last
10
years,
and
part
of
that
has
to
do
with
a
great
focus
on
gun
crimes
by
the
san
jose
police
department
and
other
police
agencies.
But
it
also
has
to
do
with
the
increasing
use
of
guns
in
crimes
in
our
community
and
part
of
that.
I
know
you're
familiar
with
unregistered
firearms,
privately
made
firearms
or
ghost
guns.
H
I
When
we
were
talking
about
how
to
split
up
this
presentation,
james
said
he'll
start
with
the
bad
news,
and
I
get
to
do
the
good
part.
So
that's
a
good
boss
right
there
really
happy
to
be
here.
Thank
you
for
having
us
and
the
reason
that
we're
so
thrilled
to
be
here
is
because
we
really
work
every
single
day
at
our
unit
on
local
approaches
that
are
evidence-based
and
that
are
going
to
make
a
real
impact
in
our
unique
population.
I
I
So
the
good
news
about
more
submitted
guns
is
that
we're
getting
more
shootings
linked
through
nibin,
which
is
the
national
integrated
ballistics
information
network
and
that
network
linked
shootings
through
shell
casings.
So
this
was
a
robust
effort
to
make
sure
that
we
have
universal
submission
of
crime
guns,
universal
testing,
and
that
has
led
to
a
huge
increase
in
the
number
of
linked
shootings,
including
many
homicide
cases
and
an
overall
of
305
linked
gun
related
incidents.
Almost
all
of
those
are
shootings
either
fatal
or
non-fatal.
So
that's
great
news.
I
Those
are
all
looked
at
through
the
grip
program
and
it
means
increased
prosecution
of
shooters
entirely
based
on
the
evidence.
So
we're
super
happy
and
proud
about
that
program,
but
it
also
means
an
increasing
gun.
Violence,
restraining
orders,
you're
going
to
hear
from
lieutenant
donohue
about
how
san
jose
police
department
has
a
program
to
specifically
use
and
leverage
the
red
flag
law,
gun
violence,
restraining
orders
in
california.
That
is
not
by
accident.
I
That
has
taken
years
to
build
out
to
draft
policy
to
have
staff
at
the
city
attorney's
office
and
at
san
jose
pd,
who
are
equipped
and
trained
to
use
these
tools.
We,
my
goal
is
always
to
double
that
double
that
triple
that,
I'm
on
constantly
on
the
stump
to
try
and
leverage
this
in
appropriate
cases
where
we
have
identified
a
unique
risk
of
gun
violence,
and
we
do
that
by
looking
at
all
of
these
individuals
each
week.
I
Every
week
we
have
a
dramatic
success
story,
people
who,
for
example,
two
weeks
ago,
there
was
a
call
for
service,
a
welfare
check,
a
suicidal
individual.
He
at
that
time
was
just
waving
a
knife,
but
we
learned
from
the
tenacious
work
of
patrol
that
he
had
a
ton
of
registered
firearms
and
that
he
had
made
previous
threats
of
violence.
They
got
a
search
warrant.
They
got
into
the
house
a
gun,
violence,
restraining
order
seized
54
weapons,
including
multiple
assault
rifles.
I
This
is
the
kind
of
work
that
takes
looking
at
the
data
connecting
with
the
right
people
and
having
the
right
people.
Resources
in
place
to
go
actually
get
hands
on
those
guns
and
disarm
these
individuals.
Where
are
the
gun
crimes
occurring?
Unsurprisingly,
maps
of
gun
crimes,
which
I
know
you
can't
probably
see
this
in
too
much
detail
right
now.
It
is
provided
with
the
slide
deck,
and
hopefully
you
can
kind
of
gnaw
on
this
later.
Are
these
same
neighborhoods,
not
accidentally,
that
are
the
mayor's
gang
prevention,
hot
spot
neighborhoods?
I
That
are
where
we
have
a
tremendous
amount
of
community
intervention
programs,
because
we
see
that
there
are
increased
levels
of
violence
and
specifically
gun
related
violence
there.
The
data
you're
looking
at
here
are
all
gun,
related
incidents
that
were
looked
at
by
the
gun,
related
intelligence
program
analysts.
They
include
homicides,
shots,
fired
incidents,
gun
recoveries
and
armed
robberies,
and
the
density
maps
are
broken
down
by
quarters
again.
I
This
is
in
the
slide
deck,
so
you
can
play
with
it
later
on,
but
we
see
certain
hot
spot
pockets
centered,
for
example,
in
the
downtown
corridor,
in
eastside
san
jose
in
winchester
cadillac
and
in
some
parts
of
the
year
in
southern
district
as
well.
What
kind
of
gun
crimes
are
the
most
prominent?
This
is
based
on
our
grip
data.
So
again,
these
are
all
of
the
incidents
that
we
look
at
and
touch
over.
856
gun
related
police
reports
were
reviewed
in
2022.
I
Thus
far,
the
analysts
read
each
report
they're
looking
for
prohibited
people,
ongoing
danger,
people
who
need
gun,
violence,
restraining
orders,
people
who
need
to
be
prosecuted
a
variety
of
different
approaches,
depending
on
the
circumstances.
We
discuss
them,
weekly
with
our
law
enforcement
partners
and
federal
partners
for
potential
adoption,
but
overall
in
the
city
of
san
jose.
I
And
what
I
mean
by
that
is
people
who
are
making
threats
that
previously
weren't
even
being
reported
so
school,
shooter
threats,
workplace,
violence,
threats,
threats
against
a
spouse
or
domestic
partner,
and
we
now
treat
all
of
those
cases
very
differently.
They
sometimes
aren't
prosecutable,
even
depending
on
the
words
that
were
used.
I
My
timer
has
gone
off,
but
I'm
going
to
keep
an
eye
on
this
real
quick
because
I
don't
want
to
go
over.
I
promised
them
that
I
wouldn't,
but
I
want
to
speak
on
each
one
of
these.
What
can
be
done?
We
need
more
education.
I'm
super
grateful
for
this
study
session.
It's
important
for
policymakers
to
see
what's
happening
locally,
also
to
hear
from
national
experts.
I
think
this
is
so
awesome
and
consistent
with
the
responsible
leadership
in
san
jose
that
we're
doing
this
today,
but
I
don't
mean
just
educating
policymakers.
I
We
need
all
law
enforcement
trained.
We
need
educators
trained.
We
need
businesses
trained.
It
is
a
personal
mission
of
mine
to
make
sure
that
we
host
training
sessions
on
gun,
violence,
restraining
orders
and
for
educators
and
in
the
context
of
workplace
violence
for
businesses,
so
that
we
have
people
who
are
ready
to
call
9-1-1
where
appropriate,
to
raise
the
red
flag,
for
example.
But
9-1-1
is
not
always
the
solution.
We
also
want
to
educate
our
community
partners
about
non-law
enforcement
solutions
to
potential
threats
and
how
to
intervene.
I
So
we
had
to
do
a
lot
of
education
in
the
gun,
violence
at
grip
prevention.
We
work
very
closely
with
prevention
groups
in
the
county
and
you're
going
to
hear
a
ton
more
from
the
city
on
what
they're
doing,
but
the
da's
office
also
is
engaged
in
that
work
and
we
support
those
efforts
with
our
community
prosecutors
and
our
grip
program,
providing
information
to
our
mental
health
partners
to
our
our
partners
in
the
community,
but
intelligence
driven
solutions.
I
Sometimes
a
less
restrictive
or
less
strict
means
are
better
for
addressing
a
threat,
but
where
we
have
a
threat,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
a
process
in
place
to
deal
with
that.
That's
where
we
get
to
threat
identification,
multi-disciplinary
collaboration
and
here's.
What
has
been
working
here.
Success
is
possible
when
you
leverage
science,
we've
leaned
into
the
crime
lab
heavily.
We
have
trained
officers
to
submit
all
firearms
so
that
we
can
lift
dna
and
prints
so
that
we
can
have
usable
evidence.
We
can
identify
shooters.
I
We
can
identify
crime
drivers,
leverage
analysts
both
within
our
organization,
but
also
at
police
departments
at
cities.
At
the
county
level,
data
analysts
are
crucial
to
understanding
what
is
our
population,
who
are
the
people
who
are
actually
driving
crime?
Are
we
right
or
wrong
in
our
assumptions
about
who
are
shooters
and
who
are
crime
drivers?
They
absolutely
lead
to
better,
more
informed
decisions,
better
prosecutions
on
our
side,
but
better
investigations
and
better
overall
outcomes.
I
Leverage
california's
robust
gun
laws,
more
gun,
violence,
restraining
orders
is
my
personal
goal,
because
I
think
that
they
are
such
an
important
tool
that
it's
not
an
arrest
warrant.
It
is
a
disarming
tool,
but
also
leverage
laws,
for
example,
for
disarming
prohibited
persons.
This
is
a
huge
goal
of
the
gun-related
intelligence
program
in
every
single
case
when
somebody
becomes
prohibited
either
because
they
have
just
been
arraigned
on
a
criminal
charge
or
they've
just
been
served
with
a
restraining
order.
Take
that
extra
step
to
disarm
them.
I
That
is
often
very
difficult,
but
it
is
worth
the
effort
in
our
view,
and
we
have
all
the
laws
on
the
books
to
do
this.
Leverage
the
community
you're
going
to
hear
from
our
community
partners
in
a
moment
and
again
we're
really
lucky
to
be
in
this
county,
where
we
have
community
partners
who
are
ready,
who
are
are
trained
in
race,
equitable
solutions
to
addressing
these
and
who
work
closely
with
us
on
these
data-driven
and
evidence-based
solutions.
I
So
we're
really
grateful
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
we
do.
I
hope
I'm
not
over
time,
but
my
big
thing
that
I
wanted
to
make
sure
to
tell
the
city
while
I
have
everyone
on
the
line,
is
your
police
department
really
is
incredibly
supportive
of
the
work
that
we
do
at
grip,
and
we
I
mean,
if
I
could
like
replicate
my
one
little
sergeant
into
an
entire
team
of
sergeants.
I
B
Thank
you
marissa
and
james.
I
sorry
I
just
want
to
butt
in
for
a
moment
recently.
I
know
you
covered
a
lot
of
content
there
and
it
was
obvious
you
had
to
get
through
a
lot.
I
I
know
you
also
felt
the
pressure
of
time.
Was
there
anything
you
feel
like
you
left
out
that
we
ought
to
hear.
So
I
just
hate
to
think
we.
I
These
are
proven
solutions
that
nationally
have
been
studied,
have
been
studied
in
california,
and
I
just
feel
like
every
ounce
that
we
put
into
studying
these
individuals
every
dime
that
we
spend
on
analysts
and
investigators
who
can
actually
go
disarm
individuals.
That
is
the
really
hard
piece
like
that
is
the
final
frontier
where
sometimes
we
feel,
I
think
frustrated
is
that
you
have
an
individual
who
we've
now
done.
I
Disarming
people
is
not
as
easy
as
writing
a
disarming
piece
of
paper,
and
so
the
judge
is
not
meaningful
until
we
can
actually
get
into
houses
with
legal
process
and
we
can
get
our
hands
on
guns
and
that
is
very,
very
challenging
and
but
we're
up
for
the
challenge,
but
it's
really
hard
marissa.
I
just.
H
Want
to
add
one
thing
to
that
is
that
gun
crime
doesn't
happen
in
isolation,
and
we
should
be
thinking
not
just
about
who
what
did
the
shooter
do
in
that
instance,
but
we
should
also
be
thinking
about.
Where
do
you
get
that
gun
and
where'd
that
person
get
that
gun?
What's
the
flow
of
illegal
guns
into
california
and
into
our
county,
and
what?
What
is
the
flow
of
gun
parts
for
illegal
manufacturer
of
guns
here?
I
H
I
End
and
I'm
grateful
to
go
after
dr
webster
and
I
always
learn
and-
and
I
think
that
one
of
the
things
that
he
touched
upon
is
focusing
on
dealers
and
supply
side
gun
investigations.
This
is
a
priority
of
our
program
and
we've
been
working
really
closely
with
atf
and
also
san
jose
police
department
to
ask
in
every
possible
instance.
Where
did
you
get
this
gun
and
then
follow
up
and
follow
up
the
chain
to
supply
side
investigations,
which
is
what
we
call
it?
I
B
A
C
E
A
A
I
So
it
depends
on
which
level
you
mean
if
we
want
to
know
from
the
shooter
or
the
person
who
just
got
arrested.
Where
did
you
get
this
gun?
We
do
a
pretty
good
job
of
identifying
that
first
level
broker
right,
but
if
you
think
of
gun
sales,
a
lot
like
drug
sales,
what
we're
really
looking
for
are
not
just
the
the
dealer
but
you're
looking
for
the
major
producers
or
the
major
suppliers
of
guns.
I
We're
doing,
I
think
an
above
average
job
in
most
of
our
cases
of
training
officers
and
also
following
up
on
identifying
brokers
of
guns,
but
going
up
to
up
the
chain
to
the
major
suppliers
of
guns
is
much
more
difficult,
but
we've
done
so
many
big
investigations.
This
year,
you
may
have
seen
the
news
of,
for
example,
the
build
operation
in
willow
glen.
That
was
not
an
accident
that
we
were
able
to
identify
those
individuals.
They
were
all
felons.
They
were
building
custom
assault
rifles
out
of
a
home
in
san
jose.
I
That
was
a
month-long
investigation,
and
that
was
a
total
collaboration
through
our
unit
with
san
jose
pd,
the
sheriff's
office
and
atf.
We
have
similar
examples
of
trafficking
rings
that
have
been
a
collaborative
investigation
through
our
partnership
with
neighboring
agencies.
For
example,
we
just
dismantled
a
large
arizona-based
trafficking
organization
through
a
month-long
investigation,
and
we
also
had
a
recent
success
in
prosecuting
the
source
of
supply
for
the
gun
that
was
used
in
the
oak
ridge
mall
shooting
at
christmas.
That
was.
J
I
Handheld
machine
gun
that
had
been
trafficked
and
provided
by
a
repeat
dealer
and
source
of
supply
in
san
jose.
So
these
investigations
are
ongoing,
but
they
are
time
consuming
to
get
up
the
stream
to
the
source
and
they
really
require
a
dedicated
team
of
law
enforcement
officers.
To
do
so,
but
we're
doing
this
kind
of
on
the
side
of
all
the
other
things
that
we're
doing
so
as
much
as
possible.
We're
trying.
But
it
is
it's
challenging,
because
these
are
complex
investigations.
A
B
D
Thank
you
so
much.
Thank
you
james.
Thank
you,
marissa
for
your
presentations,
providing
that
rich
context
of
what
gun
crime
looks
like
locally,
we'll
be
turning
our
attention
now
to
backed
public
health
in
santa
clara
county.
To
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
cost
of
gun
violence
here
locally
mayor,
we
did
build
in
a
five-minute
break
in
case
you
needed
that.
Would
you
like
to
keep
going
up.
D
Super
okay!
Thank
you
very
much.
So
we'll
turn
now
to
rhonda
and
clinton
brown
director
of
the
healthy
communities
branch
in
santa
clara
county
public
health
department,
rhonda
has
more
than
25
years
in
community
health.
Before
joining
the
county,
she
was
executive
director
from
community
health
partnership
and
executive
director
of
the
office
of
community
health
at
stanford
school
of
medicine
in
2012
rhonda
received
the
inspiring
change
leadership
award
for
her
exceptional
commitment
and
ability
to
enhance
the
health
and
well-being
of
her
local
communities.
A
J
Just
while
we're
waiting
to
change
the
slides
I
do
want
to
let
you
know
that
I'm
not
sure
that
I'll
be
able
to
stay
on
the
call
afterwards.
I
think
I
also
have
to
leave
for
another
deadline.
The
public
health
department
is
working
on
today,
annie
wu
is
with
me
and
she
will
be
presenting
on
a
place
based
strategy
later
in
the
in
the
presentations.
J
As
some
of
you
may
know,
this
study
is
a
result
of
a
referral
that
was
directed
to
the
administration
which
came
to
the
public
health
department
back
in
in
actually
at
the
end
of
2019,
following
the
mass
shooting
in
gilroy,
the
board
of
supervisors
asked
us
to
come
back
with
the
framework
on
how
we
could
study
the
cost
of
gun
violence.
We
did
that
in
january
of
2020
and
it
was
approved
and
then
guess
what
happened.
J
J
The
other
thing
I
want
to
highlight
that
was
reflected
of
this
study.
Is
we
really
wanted
to
ground
this
work
in
with
a
racial
equity
lens,
because
there
are
disproportionate
impacts
of
gun
violence
by
race,
african
african
ancestry,
individuals
experience
three
times
greater
fatal
police
shootings
and
10
times
greater
gun
homicides
compared
to
white
americans?
J
Similarly,
latino
populations
are
1.5
times
more
likely
to
die
by
police,
shootings
and
two
times
more
likely
to
die
by
gun
homicides
compared
to
white
individuals
and
there's
a
increasing
trend
that
needs
further
examination
further
examination.
But
there
is
increasing
trends
of
hate
crimes
having
disproportionate
impact
on
people
of
color.
J
J
J
This
slide
here
simplifies
the
cost
a
little
bit
more
clearly
into
direct
and
tangible
cost,
which
includes
the
health
care
system
which
is
comprised
of
medical
treatment,
processing
of
firearm
crimes
within
law
enforcement
and
criminal
justice
systems.
It
also
includes
emergency
room
and
emergency
medical
services.
J
This
slide
really
highlights
the
the
the
total
outcome
results
of
the
study
and
during
during
2016
to
2020
the
average
annual
cost
related
to
non-fatal
firearm
injuries
and
deaths
were
nearly
1.2
billion
dollars.
The
majority
of
those
costs,
as
you
can
see
in
this
chart,
were
in
the
quality
of
life
area
at
82
percent.
J
We
did
a
further
calculation
breaking
out.
These
costs,
specifically
for
the
county
of
santa
clara
public
cost
systems,
and
the
county
of
santa
clara
incurs
about
72
million
annually
due
into
firearm
incidents
at
the
county
and
city
level.
This
estimate
includes
public
cost
in
the
following
in
in
the
areas
outlined
here,
so
medical,
mental
health
or
behavioral
health,
emergency
services,
police,
criminal
justice.
It
excludes
the
cost
of
inc
incarceration
at
the
state
and
the
federal
level
you
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
J
J
J
So
we
had
an
opportunity
to,
in
addition
to
submitting
the
cost
analysis
to
the
board
of
supervisors,
to
really
conduct
some
to
provide
some
recommendations
for
consideration,
since
the
ultimate
goal
was
to
advise
on
policy
and
programmatic
decision
making,
we
spent
some
time
conducting
stakeholder
interviews
with
the
prevention
institute
so
that
we
could
really
learn
the
pulse
of
the
community
and
our
government
departments
and
city
partners
perspective
that
will
help
inform
and
guide
us.
In
the
recommendation.
J
And
district
office
attorneys
probation
office,
behavioral
health
office
of
re-entry
services
and
office
of
pre-trial
services.
We
also
in
our
resident
and
community
and
geographic
areas.
We
had
stakeholder
meetings,
so
we
had
a
resident
and
non-profit
community
based
organization
meetings,
specifically
in
the
east
side
of
san
jose,
and
we
also
had
some
in
the
south
county
in
the
gilroy
area,
so
that
we
could
really
have
some
good,
clean
representation
of
those
areas
where
we
have
hot
spots.
J
The
highlighted
recommendations
provide
a
promising
path
that
represents
strong
desire
amongst
these
stakeholders
to
really
strengthen
a
coordinated
violence
prevention
response
among
multiple
partners.
While
this
list
is
not
exhaustive
of
all
the
possible
actions
that
could
be
taken,
you
saw
the
the
richness
of
the
work
that
the
district
attorney's
office
is
doing.
There
is
much
much
work,
that's
being
done,
and
we
tried
to
highlight
some
of
that
in
our
legislative
file.
That's
going
to
the
board
of
supervisors
on
august
30th.
J
These
were
these
recommendations
required
for
collaboration,
ownership
and
investments
from
both
government
and
non-government
institutions.
So
the
first
one
is
around
strengthening
policy
advocacy
and
public
awareness.
One
encouraged
the
adoption
of
gun
safety
policies
and
practicing
advancing
a
culture
of
gun
safety
would
require
us
to
establish
more
robust,
evidence-based
gun
safety
policies
and
practices.
J
The
second
one
is
to
adopt
a
racial
equity
impact
assessment
tools
to
evaluate
county
or
city
policy
positions,
on
gun,
advocate
guns
and
advocate
for
more
equitable
prevention
policies
at
the
county,
state
and
federal
levels.
We
often
imagine
and
dream,
and
really
try
to
advance
change
through
policy
changes,
but
sometimes
those
policy
changes
have
unintended
consequences.
J
The
third
one
is
a
is
really
a
assortment
and
kind
of
a
accumulation
of
a
lot
of
things
around
public
awareness
and
education
that
came
up
during
the
stakeholder
meetings,
and
so
we
really
want
to
implement,
implement
a
portfolio
of
public
awareness
and
education
campaigns
on
gun
violence
prevention.
There
is
a
lot
of
of
information
to
broaden
the
understanding
of
safe
of
gun
safety
laws.
Merit
suggests
erisa
just
talked
about
gun,
violence,
restraining
orders
and
the
importance
of
providing
training,
so
people
understand
it
and
that
people
can
utilize
it
more
effectively.
J
J
You
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
The
fourth
one
is
adopt
and
replicate
a
community
center
place
based
approaches.
I
annie
wu
from
the
public
health
department
is
going
to
be
joining
the
city
of
san
jose
shortly
to
talk
about
east
san
jose
peace
partnership,
which
is
an
example
of
that.
There's
much
evidence
on
place-based
strategies
to
gun
prevention
in
neighborhoods
facing
concentrated
disadvantage
and
our
concentrations
of
risk.
J
I
think
dr
webster
talked
a
little
bit
about
this.
We're
recommending
that
we
really
think
about
how
we
can
invest
more
in
these
place-based
strategies
to
really
build
community
build
capacity
in
community
levels.
All
aim
to
address
protective
factors
that
advance
equity.
The
fifth
one
is
to
expand
partnership
with
ethnic
behavioral
health
services
providers.
J
We
have
some
models
currently
in
the
county
for
mobile
crisis
care
units
that
are
very
therapeutic
in
nature.
Our
proposal
is
to
expand
this
model
to
really
include
community
partnerships,
where
we
could
have
licensed
clinical
teams
sitting
side
by
side
by
community
resident
leaders
and
trained
community
members,
who
are
experts
and
skilled
in
community-based
crisis.
Intervention
could
do
de-escalation,
could
do
crisis
intervention
and
are
known
trusted
members
in
the
community
that
can
really
help
avoid
a
crisis
that
might
happen,
including
police
involved
crisis.
That
comes
up.
J
There
is
often
a
menu
and
and
a
list
of
services
that
youth
are
able
to
take
advantage
of
and
participate
in,
but
there
are
a
population
of
youth
that
aren't
actually
in
those
some
of
those
places
they
might
not
be
in
typical
school
settings.
They
may
not
be
at
community
centers
and
so
a
focus
on
specific
activities
and
prevention,
programs
and
recreational
programs
for
youth
that
are
at
risk
for
gun
violence
and
then
last
it's
about
data.
J
You
heard
already
the
importance
from
both
the
speakers
before
about
the
importance
of
data
data
was
the
most
challenging
factor
in
completing
this
study.
It
was
very,
very
difficult
to
get
data
across
sectors,
it's
very
difficult
to
get
data
from
the
state
of
california,
it's
very
difficult
to
get
population
level
from
community
action.
Work
that's
happening,
so
we're
really
recommending
expanding
our
focus
and
really
having
a
dedicated
gun
safety
data
working
group
who
could
really
work
at
building
a
a
lake
or
a
repository
of
data
so
that
we
can
better
understand,
gun
violence.
J
The
last
slide
is
really
just
some
resources
that
we
had
that
we've
used
and
we're
just
recommending
that
you
can
have
your
file
your
on
your
files.
In
closing,
we
just
want
to
emphasize
that
we
look
at
gun
violence
from
an
upstream
public
health
approach
at
the
county
level.
These
recommendations
offer
forward
and
really
express
root,
causes
of
violence,
promoting
resiliency
and
building
capacity
at
a
community
level.
G
B
B
F
Yeah,
thank
you
mayor,
appreciate
that
and
thank
you
rhonda.
The
question
I
have
may
also
be
able
to
be
answered
by
city
staff
so,
but
I'd
like
rondo's,
maybe
perspective
of
it.
I'm
curious
how
well
rhonda
you
and
your
team
at
the
county
are
working
with,
say
this
city
of
san
jose
or
other
cities
in
the
county.
F
Where
you
are,
you
know
partnering
to
actually
implement
these
recommendations
that
you
laid
out.
I
I
do
appreciate
that.
I
think
that
from
the
the
presentation
that
we
we
heard
first
from
the
professor
mentioned
the
idea
about
that
investment,
we
have
in
communities
specifically
these
communities
that
we
see
with
with
higher
gun
violence.
F
We
saw
the
the
map
from
the
heat
map
from
the
da's
office,
where
you
can
pinpoint
areas
right
in
our
city,
and
I
know
that
we
are
having
some
investments,
things
like
project
hope
when
we
use
our
gangs
hotspot
mayor's
game
prevention
task
force,
but
I'm
just
curious.
It
looks
like
what
you
presented
today
around.
J
J
We
we
collaborate
in
a
number
of
ways,
one
I
just
want
to
say
through
east
san
jose
peace
partnership.
We
continue
to
collaborate
on
the
neighborhood
strategies,
so
there
are
many
neighborhood
kind
of
unorganized
or
un
unofficial
neighborhood
associations
that
we've
been
collaborating
and
supporting
we.
We
we
want
to
continue
to
do
that.
I
think
what
this
report
finishing
kind
of
the
data
analysis
and
cost
analysis
of
this
report
at
the
same
time
that
the
city
of
san
jose
is
wrapping
up
the
strategic
planning
process.
C
F
C
B
F
B
J
Absolutely
I
think,
whatever
data
that
we
have
available,
we
try
to
make
it
publicly
available.
Our
website
is
not
the
most
user-friendly
website
for
community
consumption,
so
what
we
try
to
do
is
make
ourselves
available
as
individuals
and
as
a
department.
So
if
people
want
the
data,
you
know
please
reach
out
to
either
myself
or
any
woo
who's
going
to
be
presenting
with
andreas
shelton
floor
shelton
shortly
and
we'll
try
to
get
you
the
data
that
you
need.
J
I
also
will
say
as
a
follow-up
to
this
final
report
on
the
cost
of
gun
violence
study.
We
are
going
to
be
doing
a
little
bit
more
of
a
deeper
dive
of
mapping
and
analyzing.
What
are
the
resources
and
gaps
that
currently
exist
so
that
we
can
come
back
and
and
make
further
recommendations
for
investment
to
to
support
and
collaborate
and
to
leverage
the
work
that
is
already
happening
by
the
city
of
san
jose
staff,
various
non-profit,
community-based
organizations
and
residents.
B
C
No
problem
slides,
so
I'm
waiting
for
those
andrea
flora
shelton.
I
am
honored
to
be
a
part
of
today's
panel,
representing
the
community
services,
division
of
parks,
recreation,
neighborhood
services,
I'll
be
discussing
our
work
and
three
specific
examples
that
the
city
of
san
jose
invests
in
at
the
community
level
to
prevent,
address
and
respond
to
gun
violence.
C
As
you
know,
this
collective
impact
model,
known
as
the
mayor's
gang
prevention
task
force,
continues
today
and
will
be
evolving
today.
I'll
highlight
a
few
key
strategies
that
I
pulled
out
that
are
related
to
gun:
violence
prevention,
the
community
crisis
response
protocol
street
outreach,
which
is
funded
by
bringing
everyone's
strengths
together
or
the
best
program
and
the
hospital-based
intervention
trauma
to
triumph.
And,
lastly,
I
will
preview
a
couple
of
key
proposals
that
we
will
be
bringing
forward
in
the
upcoming
mgptf
2025
plan
in
november.
C
C
At
that
time,
a
course
of
action
is
developed,
and
each
member
of
the
group
may
have
follow-up
action
items.
The
next
phase
can
include
a
community
meeting
as
well.
If
there's
a
broader
community
concern
that
needs
to
be
addressed,
otherwise
the
action
plan
is
carried
out
and
the
youth
intervention
services
team
monitors
to
ensure
appropriate
and
timely
delivery
of
services
to
meet
the
goals
in
2021.
C
C
There
are
five
eligible
best
services
and
street
outreach
is
one
of
those
street
outreach.
Contractors
are
expected
to
provide
the
activities
you
see
listed
on
the
right
hand
of
the
slide.
They
engage
with
understand
and
build
relationships
with
youth
experiencing
high
levels
of
risk
factors,
and
they
are
assigned
neighborhoods
where
there
is
a
priority
to
be
proactive.
C
Currently,
two
providers
serve
as
the
city's
street
outreach
partners,
new
hope
for
youth
and
catholic
charities.
The
leaders
and
staff
from
these
organizations
are
critical,
critical
component
of
our
overall
strategy
to
reduce
and
respond
to
gun
violence
again,
particularly
among
young
people
involved
or
affiliated
with
a
gang
lifestyle.
C
C
You
saw
in
ronda's
data
that
emergency
room
visits
are
very
high
for
latinos
as
it
relates
and
we
count
emergency
room
visits.
This
is
in
response
to
young
people
who
show
up
at
two
of
our
trauma
centers
in
san
jose.
This
is
a
hospital-based
bedside
response
and
thankfully,
with
the
partnership
with
the
county's
valley,
medical
center,
a
pilot
program
was
started
10
years
ago.
C
C
We
have
received
state
funding
for
these
programs
for
a
few
years
and
are
very
pleased
that
in
2020,
cal
vip
funded
supporting
the
additional
trauma
center
in
east
san
jose
operated
by
regional
medical
center.
It
was
a
rough
start
during
covid,
but
we're
looking
to
pick
up
more
referrals
as
we
head
into
the
third
year.
C
We
understand
that
almost
200
young
people
would
qualify
from
regional
on
an
annual
basis
and
we're
working
to
ensure
that
the
lessons
learned
from
the
successful
partnership
at
valley
medical
center
can
be
replicated
at
regional.
I
also
wanted
to
point
out
that
in
this
slide,
you'll
see
this
young
man.
We
do
have
a
four
minute,
video
that
we
didn't
have
time
to
share
today,
but
this
young
man
shared
his
story
and
he
is,
after
being
a
victim
of
a
gunshot,
is
on
the
verge
of
being
offered
a
job
at
regional
medical
center.
C
So
moving
from
program
delivery
to
overall
strategy,
I'm
previewing
a
few
of
the
objectives
and
queue
results
in
the
upcoming
mgptf
2025
plan.
After
almost
a
year
of
community
input
and
planning,
I'm
very
excited
to
say
that
we
will
be
rolling
out
an
updated
youth
violence
prevention
strategy
for
san
jose.
C
The
next
three
year
plan
will
be
moving
through
committees
and
is
scheduled
to
come
to
council
in
late
november.
For
adoption
on
this
slide
is
a
high-level
preview
of
the
proposed
three-year
objectives
and
first-year
key
results
that
are
particularly
related
to
gun,
violence
prevention,
and
I
think,
some
of
what
you
saw
in
ronda's,
again,
presentation
related
to
increasing
knowledge.
You've
heard
the
da's
office
talking
about
education.
C
We
are
we
see
that
as
a
key
objective,
and
we
see
that
as
increasing
the
protective
factors
in
young
people,
we're
also
very
interested
in
continuing
to
reduce
youth
risk
factors
in
priority
neighborhoods
in
schools.
We
see
that
as
the
key
objective
from
an
intervention
strategy,
and
then
we
also
along
our
continuum,
reduce
recidivism
among
young
people.
So
those
are
the
overall
three-year
objectives
and
then
we're
pulling
out
some
key
results
here.
C
So
we
can
address
different
forms
of
violence
when
we
focus
on
increasing
protective
factors
and
reducing
risk
factors
and
continue
to
make
a
concerted
effort
to
leverage
other
change
initiatives
that
can
address
the
root
causes
of
violence.
We
have
the
children
and
youth
master
plan,
the
cloven
19
recovery
task
force,
in
addition
to
the
community
plan
to
end
homelessness
and
reimagining
community
safety.
Those
are
all
linked
to
the
work
we
would
be
doing
to
reduce
and
prevent
youth
violence.
G
And
thank
you
andrea.
We
will
now
turn
to
annie
wu
pub
health
planning
specialist
from
the
santa
clara
county
public
health
department,
who
will
provide
an
overview
and
highlights
of
the
east
san
jose
peace.
Partnership
annie
has
local
and
international
experience
serving
marginalized
communities
as
a
frontline
service
provider,
researcher,
community,
organizer
and
program
administrator.
K
K
So
why
east
san
jose?
So
I
just
want
to
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
the
peace
partnership.
So
peace
is
an
acronym
that
stands
for
prevention,
efforts
to
advance
community
equity.
It
was
founded
in
2016
as
an
accountable
community
for
health
or
an
ach
site.
It's
a
model,
that's
part
of
the
california
accountable
communities
for
health
initiative,
so
the
kochie
program.
K
K
So,
as
you
can
see,
it's
made
up
of
a
lot
of
grassroots
organizations,
community-based
organizations,
some
businesses.
We
have
community
clinics,
philanthropy
organizations,
youth
organizations
and
also
we
have
strong
partners
from
the
city
of
san
jose
different
agencies,
especially
on
the
housing
department
and
the
county
of
santa
clara
health
department.
Violence
pension
program
serves
as
the
backbone,
so
the
kind
of
providing
the
coordination
and
logistical
support
for
this
collaborative
next
slide.
K
So
a
little
bit
about
our
structure,
we,
we
have
a
resin-led
leadership
team
that
oversees
governance
and
decision-making,
and
then
we
think
that
when
we
first
started,
we
identified
14
kind
of
priorities
for
violence
prevention
and
all
of
those
we
kind
of
narrowed
it
down
to
about
four
or
five
different.
Like
key
priorities,
I
really
address
the
root
causes
of
violence
right.
We're
not
we're
really
in
this
collaborative
really
want
to
center.
K
So
I'm
skipping
over
a
lot
of
different
details,
but
I
just
want
to
really
focus
on
some
of
our
key
successes
over
the
years.
So
in
2020,
during
the
beginning
of
covet
that
that
was
when
our
collaborative
really
came
together,
we
really
paused
our
usual
agenda
program
and
really
kind
of
sat
down
with
our
resident
leaders,
and
I
had
a
very
in-depth
learning
listening
sessions
with
them.
K
The
funding
decision
making
and
the
distribution
were
largely
led
by
the
residents
themselves
next
slide
and
then
focusing
specifically
on
violence
prevention
activities.
Some
of
the
work
we've
been
doing
is,
like
I
mentioned
before,
preventing
intimate
partner
violence
through
upstream
system
change.
We
really
centered
on
clinic
to
community
linkages,
supporting
this
initiative
called
cues
or
program
called
queues,
which
is
a
universal
education.
K
I
just
also
thank
you
so
much,
and
I
also
want
to
mention
that,
in
addition
to
peace
at
the
violence
prevention
program
at
public
health,
we
also
have
other
place-based.
Initiatives
such
as
peace,
safe
and
peaceful
neighborhoods,
which
is
really
focused
on
currently,
is
really
focused
on
activation
of
parks
of
community
spaces.
In
kind
of
these
high-impact
neighborhoods
such
as
children,
the
rainbow
park,
which
I
was
there
last
friday
with
a
lot
of
san
jose
staff,
and
so
it
was
great
to
see
everybody
there.
Thank
you.
L
All
right
good
afternoon,
everybody,
so
I'm
going
to
start
with
what
a
gun
violence
order
is
so
essentially
gun.
Violence
orders
are
court,
orders
that
prohibit
guns
and
ammunition,
they're
civil
orders,
they're,
not
criminal,
but
violations
of
a
gun.
Violence
order
is
criminal.
So
what
do
they
do?
Well,
a
gun.
Violence
order,
prohibits
individuals
from
possessing,
owning,
buying
or
receiving
firearms.
L
If
the
individual
already
owns
or
possesses
a
firearm,
they
have
to
turn
it
into
law
enforcement,
sell
it
or
store
it
at
a
firearm
dealer.
Unfortunately,
gun
violence
orders
do
not
keep
people
away
from
one
another;
they
don't
cease
contact
or
harassment
or
make
people
move
out
of
a
residence.
Typically,
these
are
done
by
restraining
orders
or
civil
harassment
orders.
L
So
what
are
the
requirements
well
in
in
order
to
obtain
a
gun,
violence
order?
The
subject
needs
to
pose
a
significant
danger
in
the
near
future,
of
causing
injury
to
themselves
or
another
person.
By
having
a
firearm,
the
order
needs
to
be
necessary
for
protection
and
less
restrictive.
Alternatives
have
been
tried
or
they
won't
work,
and
if
we
meet
all
these
criteria,
a
judge
will
likely
approve
of
the
request
for
the
gun,
violence
order.
L
And
similarly,
if
domestic
violence,
restraining
orders
or
civil
protective
orders
are
in
place,
obtaining
a
gun,
violence
order
would
be
redundant.
So
police
are
not
the
only
people
capable
of
acquiring
gun
violence
orders.
The
same
legal
criteria
applies
where
the
requester
must
demonstrate
that
the
subject
poses
a
significant
danger
in
the
near
future
of
causing
injury
to
themselves
or
others
by
having
a
firearm,
and
the
order
is
necessary
for
protection
and
less
restrictive
alternatives
for
tried
or
won't
work.
L
However,
in
those
cases
gun,
violence
orders
may
be
obtained
by
co-workers,
employers,
household
members,
family
members
and
teachers
or
faculty
at
a
school.
There
are
three
different
types
of
gun.
Violence
orders,
the
first
one
we're
going
to
talk
about
is
the
gun,
violence,
emergency
protective
order,
which
we
call
a
gv
epo,
the
ex
parte
gun
violence,
restraining
order,
which
we
call
the
ex
parte
gvro
or
ex
parte
order,
and
the
order
after
hearing
we're
going
to
start
with
gvepos.
L
Now
these
are
used.
Sorry,
these
are
issued
by
law
enforcement
in
the
field
at
a
call
for
service.
They
give
the
officer
the
ability
to
take
the
guns
away
from
the
subject
right
away
and
they
last
for
21
days.
The
next
one
is
the
ex
parte
order.
These
are
filed
by
attorneys
like
the
city
attorney
or
any
of
the
people.
I
talked
about
earlier,
like
family
members,
co-workers,
etc,
and
these
are
temporary
orders
they
last
21
days
until
the
time
a
hearing
in
front
of
a
judge
can
be
scheduled.
L
These
are
delayed,
meaning
they're
filed
with
the
court
after
the
fact,
and
not
in
the
presence
of
the
person
who's
being
restrained.
So
there's
nobody
taking
the
guns
from
that
person
at
that
particular
time
and
that's
going
to
be
key
as
we
go
on
here
and
the
final
type
is
the
order
after
hearing
and
these
are
issued
by
a
judge
after
a
hearing
in
court,
they
last
anywhere
from
one
to
five
years
and
again
these
are
delayed,
and
so
there's
nobody
taking
guns
from
the
subject
at
that
time
either.
L
L
L
So
what
can
we
do
to
increase
the
number
of
gun
violence
orders
filed
every
year?
Well,
the
first
thing
like
you've
heard
from
many
of
our
other
presenters,
is
public
education.
People
need
to
know
that
these
are
out
there
and
how
to
acquire
them.
We
do
this
using
our
community
partners,
our
social
media
and
directing
people
to
speakforsafety.org,
which
is
a
campaign
to
raise
awareness
about
gvro's
and
provide
resources
and
tools
to
obtain
them.
L
L
We
need
to
continue
our
collaboration
with
the
santa
clara
county
district
attorney's
office
and
unfortunately,
marissa
beat
me
to
this.
I
was
totally
going
to
give
her
kudos
because
we
have
a
great
relationship
with
them,
but
I'm
still
going
to
say
it
so
I'd
like
to
thank
the
da's
office
for
our
relationship,
especially
with
the
grip
team.
They
do
an
outstanding
job
and
marissa
taught
me
everything
I
know
about
this
subject.
L
L
M
Yes,
thank
you
hi
good
afternoon.
Thank
you
for
having
me
here.
I'm
pleased
to
be
here
to
talk
with
you
about
some
of
the
work
that
I've
been
doing
with
colleagues
around
the
country
on
gun
violence,
restraining
order
laws.
I
actually
don't
have
any
slides
with
me
today.
I
thought
that
you
all
were
in
a
lengthy
afternoon
session,
so
I
thought
it
might
be
nice
to
just
take
a
bit
of
a
break
from
slides
and
we
can
just
have
a
brief
conversation
for
the
next
15
minutes.
M
M
A
civil
order
process
to
temporarily
restrict
people
who
are
behaving
dangerously
and
at
risk
of
violence
toward
their
intimate
partners
from
purchasing
and
possessing
guns.
So
there's
good
lessons
there
from
the
longer
timeline
that
we
have
from
domestic
violence.
Restraining
orders
that
I
like
to
just
highlight
for
for
a
minute
here
before
turning
back
to
gun
violence,
restraining
orders
so
about
10.
M
15
years
ago,
I
was
involved
in
a
in
a
study
with
my
colleagues
at
the
university
of
california
davis
to
look
at
implementation
of
domestic
violence,
restraining
orders
with
regard
to
that
gun,
dispossession,
provision
in
san
mateo
and
butte
county.
So
you
know
some
jurisdictions
that
are
that
are
neighbors
to
san
jose
and
again,
you
know.
M
The
realization
was
that,
even
though
domestic
violence
restraining
orders
had
been
on
the
books
for
a
number
of
years,
and
even
though
the
provisions
that
allowed
for
dispossession,
temporary
dispossession
of
firearms
and
restrictions
on
the
purchase
of
new
firearms,
what
we
knew
was
that
those
laws
weren't
essentially
being
used.
They
weren't
essentially
being
implemented.
M
People
who
have
knowledge
of
these
laws,
who
have
the
skills
to
know
when
to
use
these
laws
and
who
are
ready
to
respond
when
their
fellow
officers
or
partners
in
the
prosecutor's
office
or
partners
in
the
advocacy
field
are
alerting
them.
That
there's
someone
who
is
violent
toward
a
partner
guns
are
an
issue
and
what
kind
of
tools
do
we
have
to
get
those
guns
out
of
the
hands
of
people
who
are
being
violent
toward
their
loved
ones?
M
So
again,
specially
trained
officers
from
the
sheriff's
office
detectives
from
the
sheriff's
office
office,
who
were
sort
of
designated
as
domestic
violence
restraining
order
officers.
They
were
there
to
serve
those
petitions
to
assure
that
gun
dispossession
happened
in
accordance
with
the
orders
issued
by
the
judge.
M
I
think
there
are
lessons
in
that
work
in
the
experience
with
domestic
violence
restraining
orders
that
can
inform
your
work,
moving
forward
with
gun
violence,
restraining
orders
because
again
in
a
lot
of
ways,
they're
very
similar
processes,
civil
court
process
involved
that
are
invoked
in
response
to
people
who
are
behaving
dangerously
and
the
desire
to
temporarily
restrict
the
purchase
and
possession
of
guns.
So
I
would
encourage
the
council
to
look
toward
that
work.
M
Violence
restraining
orders
so
what
they
have
in
king
county.
Washington
is
a
team
with
representatives
from
the
court
from
the
prosecutor's
office
from
seattle,
pd
from
the
sheriff's
office
and
from
advocates
who
work
with
family
members
who
work
with
people
who
are
experiencing
crisis.
These
people
all
work
together.
M
They
examine
sort
of
the
cases
that
come
before
them.
They
assess,
when
you
know,
in
order
to
dispossess
a
person
from
firearms,
a
civil
order
is
in
line
and
they
work
together
to
make
that
process
happen
smoothly
and
effectively
and
assure
that
that
gun
dispossession
happens
and
and
again,
some
of
the
sort
of
maybe
challenges
that
the
lieutenant
highlighted
was.
M
You
know,
gun
violence,
restraining
orders
are
appropriate
for
certain
kinds
of
cases,
but
there
are
other
types
of
civil
orders:
domestic
violence,
restraining
orders
that
are
more
appropriate
in
cases
of
partner
violence.
So
if
you
have
a
team
that
is
sort
of
trained
and
knowledgeable
and
sort
of
the
go-to
people
for
all
of
these
types
of
civil
protection
orders,
then
what
you
have
and
what
we're
seeing
in
king
county
washington
is
a
team
of
people
who
can
really
respond
to
the
dangerous
situations
with
the
type
of
civil
order.
That
is
appropriate
for
that.
M
D
D
Professor
winkler
is
a
specialist
in
american
constitutional
law,
the
supreme
court
and
gun
policy.
His
scholarship
has
been
cited
in
landmark
supreme
court
cases
on
the
first
and
second
amendment
and
is
one
of
the
20
most
cited
law
professors
in
judicial
opinions
today,
he'll
be
focusing
today
on
concealed,
carry
permits.
N
N
Okay,
so
the
the
bruin
case
was
important
because
it
really
puts
places
like
san
jose
at
the
burden
of
revising
concealed
carry
policies
in
a
way
that
corresponds
with
the
current
court's
view
of
the
second
amendment.
Bruin
does
not
mean
that
cities
are
prohibited
from
regulating
concealed
carry,
but
it
does
make
it
somewhat
more
difficult
and
it
certainly
does
make
it
pretty
certain
that
almost
no
matter
what
you
do,
litigation
is
going
to
follow
and
bruin
is
not
the
end
or
final
word
on
concealed
carry
policies.
N
I
think
the
better
way
to
understand
it
is
it's
the
beginning
of
I
imagine
a
little
bit
of
disputation
and
efforts
to
regulate
concealed,
carry
that
will
go
to
before
the
supreme
court
and
the
higher
courts
over
the
next.
You
know
five.
Seven
ten
years
we
probably
are
going
to
see
a
lot
of
litigation
follow
and
the
truth
is
bruin
did
not
provide
terrific
clarity
and
raises
as
many
questions
as
it
answers
like.
N
I
said,
the
new
york
new
york's
proper
cause
permitting
requirement
was
struck
down,
but
the
court,
in
its
majority,
opinion
also
provided
that
other
kinds
of
permitting
requirements
are
allowed.
That
you
can
still
require
a
license
or
a
permit
and
that
you
can
have
things
like
objective
criteria
to
ensure
someone's
a
law.
Abiding
responsible
citizen
and
guns
can
be
restricted
in
sensitive
places.
N
I
think
this
is
an
important
concurrence,
because
it
doesn't
really
do
much
except
provide
clarity
that
two
of
the
justices
in
the
six-member
majority
believe
that
there
that
government
does
have
broad
range
of
discretion
in
how
it
creates
eligibility
requirements
for
concealed,
carry
and
it
matters,
because
it's
possible
not
clear
exactly
how
much.
But
at
least
it's
possible
that
there's
some
daylight
between
the
kavanaugh
and
roberts
position
and
the
thomas
position
set
forth
in
the
majority
opinion
and,
of
course,
for
supporters
of
gun
safety
reform.
N
And
that
suggests
that
it's
very
important
that
whatever
kind
of
permitting
process
you
have,
you
do
so
in
a
way.
That's
designed
to
reduce
the
open-endedness,
that
is
to
say
it's
important,
to
provide
detailed
guidance
for
the
issuance
of
these
permits
and
the
more
detail
that
you
can
provide.
The
more
clarity
in
the
in
the
eligibility
requirements.
The
more
likely
it
is
to
satisfy
justice's
kavanaugh
and
roberts
and
and
likely
a
majority
of
the
supreme
court.
N
Kavanaugh
specifically
pointed
out
that
the
kinds
of
objective
criteria
used
in
the
43
states
that
currently
have
shall
issue
permitting
policies
are
the
kinds
of
things
that
are
constitutionally
permissible
and
that
the
objective
criteria
can
be
used
to
ensure
that
someone
is
a
law-abiding
responsible.
Citizen
and
I
think
that
language
is
important,
that
by
ensuring
that
someone's,
a
law-abiding,
responsible
citizen
is
more
than
just
saying,
someone
is
not
a
prohibited
purchaser.
N
Even
if
you
are
otherwise
law
abiding,
that
is
to
say,
you're,
not
a
prohibited
purchaser,
you
haven't,
haven't
and
no
felony
convictions.
You
can
still
be
denied
a
permit
if
you're
deemed
not
to
have
the
appropriate
character
or
temperament
to
carry
a
firearm
again.
Kavanaugh
and
robert
said
that
those
43
states
what
they
do
is
constitutionally
permissible.
The
fact
that
21
of
those
states
have
a
character
or
temperament
requirement
is
indicative
that
it's
likely
to
be
constitutionally
permissible.
N
So
what
kinds
of
things
can
cities
or
states
do
to
ensure
that
someone
has
the
appropriate
character
or
temperament?
Well,
I
think
in
practice
it
means
that
cities
and
states
can
do
detailed
background
investigations
into
applicants
looking
at,
for
instance,
their
arrest
records
their
whether
they've
been
subject
to
a
restraining
order,
whether
there
is
a
significant
mental
health
history
that
leads
one
to
be
concerned
about
someone
being
a
danger
to
themselves
or
to
others
in
the
community
again.
N
The
fact
that
you
might
have
been
arrested
in
the
past
would
not
make
you
a
prohibited
purchaser,
but
it
might
be
something
that
speaks
to
the
character
and
test
character
and
temperament
of
the
underlying
applicant
cities
and
states
can
require
testimonials
from
people
to
say
that
the
applicant
has
good
moral
character
and
note
that,
with
regards
to
objective
criteria
such
as
training
or
education
requirements,
these
can
be
a
lot
tougher
than
they
are
today
for
concealed
carry
licenses
in
the
state
of
california,
for
instance.
If
you
want
to
get
a
license
to
be
a
hairdresser.
N
Now,
just
to
say
that
you
can
make
them
tougher
is
not
to
say
that
I
recommend
the
to
the
san
jose
city
council
that
you
make
it
sixteen
hundred
hours
of
training
before
one
can
carry
a
concealed
firearm.
I
think
that
anything
you
do
will
be
questioned
in
court
and
and
something
that's
significantly
out
of
line
with
other
kinds
of
objective
criteria,
and
perhaps
even
objective
criteria
in
other
states
for
concealed
carry.
N
We
just
don't
know
we'll
have
to
see
that
justice
thomas
very
specifically
called
out
in
his
bruin
opinion
that
even
objective
criteria
can
be
abused
and
lengthy,
wait
times
and
exorbitant
fees
are
the
kinds
of
things
that
courts
will.
Second
guess.
A
final
point
is
that
you
can
have
with
regards
to
objective
criteria.
As
part
of
that
you
can
have
a
short
licensing
period.
N
The
heller
case
said
that
schools
and
government
buildings
are
presumptively
areas
where
you
cannot
carry
firearms
bruin
itself
pointed
to
19th
century
sensitive
places,
legislation
that
barred
guns
from
legislative
assemblies,
polling
places
and
courthouses
as
being
fully
consistent
with
the
second
amendment.
But
the
bruin
court
also
went
further
and
said
that
lawmakers
can
draw
analogies
from
those
sensitive
places
to
identify
and
protect
new
sensitive
places,
so
you're
not
limited
to
only
those
sensitive
things
that
were
deemed
sensitive
places
in
the
19th
century.
N
The
question
becomes
what
makes
a
place
a
sensitive
place
and
truth
be
told.
We
don't
have
any
real
clarity
on
that.
The
court
said
you
can
draw
an
analogy
to
some
of
those
other
places,
but
didn't
tell
us
what
would
be
the
basis
of
a
good
analogy.
Legislative
assemblies,
polling
places
and
courthouses
are
all
government
buildings
in
some
way,
shape
or
form
or
serving
government
functions.
Is
that
a
requirement?
N
Legislative
assemblies,
polling
places
and
courthouses
generally
did
not
provide
security,
and
certainly
today,
not
all
schools
and
not
all
government
buildings
have
security.
If
you
go
down
to
my
local
government
building
to
get
a
zoning,
I
mean
to
get
a
permit
for
my
building,
a
construction
permit
for
my
home.
It's
very
likely
that
building
will
not
have
extensive
security
or
kind
of
the
kind
of
comprehensive
security
we
might
expect
at
some
place
like
the
supreme
court.
N
So
what
are
some
of
the
options
that
cities
and
states
have
before
them?
Well,
they
could
regulate,
for
instance,
hosp
prohibit
guns
from
sensitive
places
like
hospitals
or
health
care
facilities,
public
transportation,
public
parks
and
athletic
facilities,
libraries,
churches,
museums
and
amusement
parks.
N
Presumably,
we
could
have
church
zones,
museum
zones,
amusement
park
zones,
library
zones
as
well
as
school
zones,
exactly
how
big
again
we
do
not
know,
but
presumably
there's
some
space
around-
that
those
kinds
of
locations
in
which
guns
can
be
restricted.
Another
important
element
of
any
sensitive
places
restriction
might
well
be
to
reverse
the
presumption
with
regards
to
private
property
in
many
states
that
allow
concealed
carry
the
presumption
is,
is
that
you
can
carry
your
firearm
on
private
property,
most
likely,
I'm
sorry,
speaking
specifically
of
privately
owned
commercial
property.
N
That's
open
to
the
public
that
the
general
presumption
is
is
that
you're
entitled
to
possess
a
firearm
when
you
go
on
to
privately
owned
commercial
property,
that's
open
to
the
public
unless
there's
a
sign
that
says
no
guns
allowed
and
if
you
go
to
nashville
today,
you'd
almost
be
tempted
to
think
it's
less
gun
friendly
than
california,
because
you
have
all
these
stores.
That
say
no
guns
allowed.
N
Don't
you're
not
allowed
to
carry
your
firearm
in
this
in
this
store,
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
that
in
los
angeles
or
san
jose
or
other
cities
in
in
los
angeles.
One
thing
we
can
do,
though,
through
law,
is
to
reverse
the
presumption
is
to
say
instead
of
the
presumption
being,
you
have
a
right
to
carry
your
firearm
on
privately
owned
commercial
property.
N
A
G
Yes,
thank
you,
dr
winkler.
We
appreciate
your
presentation
and
that
ends
the
presentation
portion
of
this
meeting
today,
we'd
like
to
thank
all
of
our
presenters
who
partnered
with
us
to
put
on
this
meeting,
including
dr
webster,
for
sharing
his
deep
knowledge
of
research
on
preventative
approaches.
J
G
G
Andrea,
laura
shelton
from
the
parks
department,
annie,
wu
from
the
public
health
department
and
lieutenant
steve
donahue
from
our
police
department,
for
sharing
programmatic
approaches
and,
finally,
to
dr
frateroli
for
her
expertise
on
gun,
violence,
restraining
orders
and
dr
winkler
for
his
expertise
on
recent
legal
decisions
related
to
concealed
carry
and
with
that
we'll
we'll
end
our
presentation.
But
we
are
available
for
questions.
B
F
Yeah,
thank
you
mayor
and
recognized.
We
had
about
30
minutes
on
our
calendar
here,
so
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
all
the
presenters
as
well
to
our
city
staff
for
putting
this
together.
It's
been
sometime
coming.
I
know
it
was
a
lot
to
organize
and
that
and-
and
I
think
the
breadth
of
the
knowledge
and
the
presentations
today
goes
to
show
why
something
like
this
has
taken
a
little
bit
of
time
to
put
together.
F
I
first
wanted
to
have
this
conversation
on
a
more
comprehensive
approach
for
reducing
gun
violence
following
the
the
as
we
know,
the
the
significant
and
impactful
shooting
at
the
pta
rail
yard,
which
hit
close
to
home,
as
I
lost
a
close
friend
prior
to
that,
though,
the
mayor
had
led
the
charge.
I'd
worked
with
him
for
years
on
how
we
could
reduce
gun,
violence
and
and
different
policies
here
at
the
local
level.
We
know
we've
seen
it.
F
You
saw
in
the
hot
spots,
and
I
know
that
I've
had
a
number
of
gang
hot
spots
in
just
within
my
district
that
I
represent
here
within
the
city
of
san
jose.
So
it's
been
an
ongoing
issue
and
I've
had
the
the
pleasure
of
sitting
on
the
mayor's
game
prevention
task
force
as
well
now
for
the
for
the
eighth
year,
and
so
it
is
nothing
new.
But
what
I
felt
we
hadn't
had
was
a
really
comprehensive
understanding
of
everything,
that's
happening
and
then
what
the
possible
possibilities
may
be.
F
What
I've
learned
today
right
is
there's
a
lot
of
opportunities
that
I
think
that
we
may
not
be
taking
full
advantage
of,
and
so
my
first
question
is
is
what
you
know
as
we
look
at
what
we
can
do
here
locally
we've
we've
been.
You
know,
criticized
most
recently
from
our
approach
on
trying
to
implement
an
insurance
requirement,
as
well
as
having
a
a
fee.
F
Local
investment-
even
I
think,
there's
some
very
basic
things
from
the
very
first
presentation
this
morning
from
the
professor
that
talked
about
just
greening
spaces
right
I
mean
how
kind
of
simple
it
sounds,
but
the
reality
is
is
that
in
some
of
these
areas
that
we
know
we
have
high
levels
of
gun
violence,
we
can
make
an
investment
in
something
as
simple
as
cleaning
up
certain
spaces.
It
has
nothing
to
do
with
you
know
our
police
department,
the
da's
office
right.
F
It
could
be
in
a
much
more
basic
city
service
level,
all
the
way
up
to
what
we've
just
talked
about
right
now
and
and
maybe
advocacy
that
would
need
to
be
done
at
the
state
and
so
I'm
kind
of
curious
and
want
to
see
too
maybe
some
from
city
staff
that
they've
learned
through
your
understanding
of
this
presentation
and
the
work
that's
gone
into
it.
Where
can
we
have
some
focus
here
locally
versus?
F
D
D
F
Okay,
thank
you,
yeah.
I
think
another
component
that
I'd
like
to
see
locally
within
the
city
would
be
kind
of
translating
some
of
this
work.
That
may
right
now
have
a
narrow
focus
say
within
the
mayor's
campaign
task
force,
andrea
wright,
your
team,
your
presentation,
and
how
do
we
translate
that
to
the
rest
of
the
city
departments
right
and
and
and
have
an
understanding
as
we're
making
investments
in
you
know
d.o.t
or
parks
and
rec
right
in
other
places
where
it
it
will
have
some
other
benefits
outside
of
right?
F
What
that
what
may
be
the
wheelhouse
of
that
department?
We've
started
to
do
this
through
our
equity
work
right
that
we've
really
rolled
out
now
over
the
last
year
and
a
half
and
I'd
like
to
see
some
of
this
be
folded
into
decisions
made
throughout
the
city
and
and
then
factor
into
how
those
decisions
do
get
made.
C
C
So
we've
been
talking
to
deputy
city
manager
angel
rios
for
for
a
few
months
about
we're
hearing
from
our
neighborhoods
we're
hearing
from
these
leaders
and
then
how
do
we
connect
sort
of
the
built
environment
pieces
that
the
city
other
departments
do
hold
and
own,
and
how
do
we
bring
that
into
sort
of
their
work
plans
in
that
context?
So
we're
definitely
looking
to
sort
of
connect
the
dots
as
to
how,
if
we're
investing
in
project
hope
as
our
priority
neighborhoods?
How
do
we
do
that
across
the
organization.
F
There's
a
lot
of
focus
on
the
gun,
violence,
restraining
orders,
right
or
domestic
violence,
and-
and
I
think
in
in
things
like
you
know,
our
concealed
carry
and
a
lot
around
the
sort
of
the
firearm
itself
right.
And
how
do
you
remove
that
that
firearm
or
the
illegal
firearms,
and
but
not
as
much
of
a
focus-
and
I
think
on
on
that
issue
of
suicide
suicide
prevention
and
how?
How
different
that
work
really
is
right.
When
you
bring
the
firearm
into
that
situation,
somebody
that
is
suicidal.
F
You
know,
starting
internally
with
our
own
workforce,
right
with
that
mental
health
care
and
support,
are
our
public
spaces
right
and
how
we
are
thinking
of
those
how
we're
offering
resources,
I
think
back
to
martin
luther
king
junior
library,
and
we
had
a
number
of
suicides
that
happened
there,
places
like
that
that,
unfortunately
become
attractive
in
a
repetitive
location,
and
we
looked
at
how
do
we?
You
know
infrastructure
won
and
we
did
we
put
up
some
barriers,
but,
more
importantly
beyond
that,
it
was
how
do
we
offer
it?
F
We
know
that
now,
there's
people
coming
in
here
and
a
good
number
of
them
that
were
experiencing
homelessness.
How
do
we
offer
some
support
and
we
created
a
program
there
where
we
were
bringing
in
a
path,
our
local
contractor,
working
in
the
downtown
area
working
with
those
that
are
homeless
and
they
partnered
with
san
jose
state
and
students
to
to
be
able
to
work
with
two
days
a
week
in
mlk
on
a
drop-in
basis.
F
This
started
before
the
pandemic
and
so
obviously
been
a
bit
hindered
through
the
last
couple
years,
but
in
offering
a
drop
in
availability
of
service
to
those
that
may
be
experiencing
mental
health
crises
that
you
know
potentially
could
now
prevent
that
incident
from
from
occurring
much
more
difficult
area
of
public
health.
But
I
just
you
know
looking
at
the
statistics,
this
is
one
again
that
I
knew
and
I
think
it's
a
it's
really
its
own
area
of
need
and
focus
that
we
have.
F
I
know
we
don't
have
the
nonprofit
that
you
know
that
we
would
like
to
see
started
up
here
to
do
some
of
this
gun.
Violence,
prevention,
work
and
the
mayor
knows
that
that's
a
key
focus
for
me
and
hopefully,
as
that
non-profit
can
get
lifted
up
right.
It
will
be
able
to
identify
where
we
can
invest
more
of
these
resources.
F
You
know
that,
hopefully,
we'll
be
able
to
generate
and
and
then
put
them
into
the
places
where
we'll
see
the
most
positive
effect.
So
I
thank
you
again
for
for
the
presentation,
the
work,
one
parting
question
for
the
chief.
I
know
that
traditionally
the
the
chief
of
police
here
has
not
issued
many
concealed
weapon
permits.
I
know
traditionally
it
was
through
the
sheriff's.
Is
that
something
that
is
going
to
have
to
change
now,
but
or
how
are
you
going
to
be
responding
to
that
on
on
consecutive
carry
permits.
A
A
What
I
have
to
say
is
that
there's
a
few
concealed
carry
permits
that
have
been
issued,
since
I
believe
the
1990s
and
the
last
one
in
2013,
but
it's
a
handful
and
our
policy
is
comprehensive
and
that
they
require
training,
background
check,
psychological
testing
and
obviously,
with
this
decision
we
have
to
take
a
look
at
the
good
cause
component
of
that
and
that's
why
we're
working
closely
with
the
city
attorney's
office
to
see
how
that
policy
will
look
like
in
the
future.
Okay,.
B
B
We
could
try
to
do
everything
right,
but
we
could
get
preempted
by
the
state
and
I
know
there's
a
bill
right
now
by
senator
portetino.
I
think
it's
sb
918,
I
understand
that's
being
batted
around
now
and
I'm
just
hoping.
I
just
took
a
look
at
the
textual
language.
I
didn't
see
anything
that
obviously
preempted
us.
B
There
was
some
language
that
said
that
it
won't
preempt
us
on
local
requirements
on
vehicle
possession,
but
I'm
hoping
we
can
get
engaged
somehow
or
another
with
other
partners
in
the
city
to
ensure
in
other
cities
to
ensure
that
local
communities
still
have
the
authority
to
impose
greater
constraints,
assuming
they're,
objective
and
they're
constitutional
is.
Is
that
something
that's
within
our
our
workload,
sir.
D
B
B
B
B
You
know,
is
there
room
for
a
local
jurisdiction
or
a
state
to
say,
hey,
there's
lots
of
historic
precedent
with
these
uniformed
militia
acts
back
in
the
1790s.
I'm
sure
you're,
aware
of
that
required
militia
members
to
supply
their
own
muskets
and
and
every
able-bodied
man
had
to
go,
buy
a
gun
or
it
may
have
been
racially
restrictive,
but
one
way
or
another.
B
They
required
men
to
actually
get
guns,
and
I
think
in
1795
they
even
modified
it
to
say
that
the
president
would
then
have
the
authority
to
identify
those
people
and
call
them
up
to
the
militia.
And,
of
course,
everyone
was
concerned
at
the
time
about
invasion
from
britain,
and
so
the
real
point
of
all
this
business
about.
B
Second
amendment
really
was
about
militias
and
defending
the
country
from
a
foreign
power,
and
I
guess
the
question
would
be-
and
I
know
the
supreme
court's
taking
a
different
view
generally
about
the
purpose
of
the
second
amendment.
But
could
we
at
least
look
at
the
militia,
acts
and
say
hey
anybody
who
wants
a
concealed
carry
permit
has
to
join
the
state
militia.
N
Well,
you
know,
first
of
all,
it's
not
clear
whether
it's
viable
or
not,
it
does
seem
like
there
are
some
historical
precedents
for
for
such
a
policy.
Although
I
know
of
no
state,
that's
ever
restricted
concealed
carry
permits
to
those
who
are
members
of
the
the
organized
militia,
so
I
think
there
could
be.
You
know
possibly
there's
a
space
for
thinking
creatively
about
how
you
might
try
to
restrict
access
to
the
concealed
carry
permits,
but
I
do
think
that
the
court
most
likely
would
look
askance
at
it.
N
The
court
did
say
in
the
bruin
case
that
the
right
to
bear
arms
is
the
right
to
carry
firearms
in
case
of
confrontation,
not
simply
in
the
context
of
militia
service,
so
that
would
sort
of
certainly
weigh
against
a
militia-based
requirement.
I
also
want
to
encourage
lawmakers
not
to
be
too
focused
on
the
historical
antecedents
for
your
concealed
carry
policy,
even
though
the
court's
brewing
a
decision
is
very
much
about
lawmakers
have
to
pay
attention
to
historical
patterns
and
have
to
stick
to
historical
patterns.
N
N
That's
a
20th
century
invention
requiring
objective
criteria
for
things
like
training
and
mental
health,
history
and
whatnot
again
all
modern
day
requirements
that
don't
have
any
basis
in
history
and
tradition.
I
think
the
way
courts
are
going
to
approach
these
concealed.
Carry
restrictions
going
forward
is
not
to
number
one
ask
whether
they're
historical
antecedents,
although
I
think
the
courts
will
do
that
for
a
lot
of
different
kinds
of
gun
laws,
but
I
think,
with
regards
to
concealed,
carry
permitting
requirements.
B
All
right,
thank
you.
I
I
see
that
councilman
rance
has
their
hand
racing.
Let
me
just
ask
one
last
question:
we'll
go
back
to
other
members
of
the
council,
dr
federally,
I
think
raised
described
in
great
detail
the
king
county
model
and
I
look
at
the
model.
We've
got
and
all
the
great
work
that's
being
done
between
the
district
attorney's
office
and
the
police
department,
city
attorney
and
others
around
around
what
we
can
do
within
a
lot
of
constraints
on
gun,
dispossession
and
and
gvro's
and
others
I'm
just
trying
to
understand.
I
I
We
actually
do
have
a
number
of
system
partners
who
are
doing
the
front
end
work
right:
we've
trained
the
judges,
they
have
uniform
forms
that
are
coming
out,
they're
having
relinquishment
hearings,
they're
requiring
proof
of
relinquishment,
and
then
we
get
to
the
moment
where
the
judge
says.
I
find
that
this
person
has
not
satisfied
the
relinquishment
requirements.
They
then
forward
that
along
to
law
enforcement,
and
that's
it
that
it
is
complicated
from
that
point
forward,
because,
okay
now
we
know
that
there
is
an
armed
prohibited
person.
I
How
do
we
go
in
and
actually
get
our
hands
on
that
gun?
And
I
think
that
the
front
end
of
the
model
that
she's
talking
about
is
absolutely
doable
with
existing
resources,
we're
doing
a
ton
of
it
now.
I'm
super
excited
to
hear
her
description
of
it
because
I
agree.
I
think
it's
a
really
great
model,
there's
a
similarly
wonderful
model
in
the
san
diego
city
attorney's
office,
for
example.
M
M
So
it's
not
just
about
gun
violence,
restraining
orders,
it's
also
about
domestic
violence,
restraining
orders
so
having
that
expertise
concentrated
in
that
team
allows
for
better
efficiencies,
both
both
on
the
front
end,
but
also
on
the
back
end
with
regard
to
that
dispossession.
So
just
bringing
all
of
those
dispossession
opportunities
under
one
umbrella
team
is
is
a
difference
also
that
I
would
highlight.
L
O
Thank
you,
I'm
I
thank
everyone
for
their
presentations
and
for
the
collaboration
that
is
obviously
happening
behind
this
the
scenes
and
we
get
to
just
benefit
from
all
the
really
great
news.
Even
though
there
was
a
lot
of
terrible
things
happening.
There
is
some
wonderful
partnerships
and
collaborations,
and
I
think
we
need
to
really
focus
on
that
and
continue
to
build
on
those.
So
thank
you
for,
for
all
the
work.
O
You
know
we,
we
said
the
beginning
at
the
beginning
of
the
summer,
how
children
lost
their
mother
in
the
north
part
of
san
jose,
and
I
I
believe
that
there's
also
an
opportunity
for
us
to
be
proactive
about
about
these
patterns.
I
think
at
the
top
of
this
presentation-
and
we
all
know
this-
is
that
many
of
the
mass
shootings
are
folks
who
have
had
intimate
partner
violence.
And
so
what
are
we
proactively
doing
to
keep
track
not
only
to
keep
track
of
it,
but.
H
H
So,
as
far
as
tracking
these
things,
we've
been
doing
it
for
a
while
and
and
san
jose
and
santa
clara
county
have
really
been
pioneers
in
that
effort.
The
only
thing
I
wanted
to
I
wanted
to
add
one
or
two
more
things
to
that.
Is
that
one
of
the
things
that
we
do
in
domestic
violence
court
here
for
every
every
time
someone
comes
to
court
and
is
charged
with
a
domestic
violence
crime.
H
It's
that
timeliness.
I
think
that
san
jose
police
department
was
talking
about
in
their
presentation.
That
is
so
key.
Is
that
you
wanna
from
the
moment
the
person
becomes
prohibited
immediately
start
the
process
of
relinquishment.
I
think
we
can
do
more
on
the
enforcement
part
of
it.
I
think
we
can
build
out
our
teams
to
to
be
better
at
enforcing
these
laws,
but
especially
on
the
front
end,
I
think
we've
got
a
lot
of
good
things
in
place.
I
don't
know
if
that
answered
all
the
parts
of
your
question.
Councilmember.
O
Thank
you.
It
does
satisfy
a
portion
of
my
question
and
this
was
really
for
our
san
jose
police
department.
But
I
really
appreciate
your
your
response
and
this
was
for
us,
as
as
our
for
our
own
purposes,
to
keep
track
of
the
patterns
in
terms
of
one,
how
many
incidents
in
the
year
or
is
there
a
brandishing
of
a
weapon
and
how
many
of
those
incidents
have
has
that
weapon
been
discharged
or
not
just
the
fact
that
there
is
a
weapon
is
is
serious.
O
It's
a
very
serious
situation
and
we
know
that
that
person
on
the
other
receiving
end
of
this
relationship
is
in
real
danger,
and
so
this
this
is
all
leading
to
what
what
do
we
do
proactively
for
those
survivors,
knowing
that
these,
knowing
that,
once
somebody
has
a
weapon
like
a
gun
in
their
possession,
there's
a
very
high
likelihood
of
that
gun
being
eventually
used,
and
so
I
know
that
we,
we
just
secured
some
analysts
earlier
in
our
budget
season.
So
I
wanted
to
hear
maybe
from
lieutenant,
donahue
or
chief.
O
L
A
L
L
So
in
2021
we
had
2962
incidents
of
domestic
violence
without
a
firearm
and
24
involving
a
firearm.
So
I
want
to
point
that
out
that
we
know
that
there's
a
a
correlation
here,
but
we
we
don't,
have
a
hugely
prevalent
problem
here
in
san
jose
for
this
particular
issue
that
doesn't
negate
the
fact
that
any
any
kind
of
intimate
partner
violence
in
the
involving
a
firearm
is
not
okay,
but
we
we
need
to
look
at
this
in
context.
L
The
first
thing
that
we
did
at
our
department
is
we
established
years
ago,
a
threats
team
in
our
domestic
violence
unit,
our
family
violence
unit,
and
they
don't
look
at
just
the
act,
but
the
threat
of
an
act,
the
potentiality
for
this
to
come
to
fruition,
and
so
they
examine
each
particular
case
through
a
lens
that
looks
at.
Could
this
happen
again?
L
Could
it
get
worse
or
could
something
happen
that
we
don't
know
about
yet
and
by
doing
that,
we're
able
to
kind
of
head
off
some
of
the
issues
that
might
be
presented
later
on
down
the
line?
On
top
of
that,
we
put
a
huge
campaign
out
to
educate
the
officers
in
our
department
and
that
education
is
twofold.
First
of
all,
it's
from
us
telling
them
how
to
do
their
job
better,
it's
telling
them!
This
is
what
a
gvro
is.
This
is
how
to
get
one.
This
is
how
to
use
one.
L
These
are
the
processes
in
place
to
make
it
easy
for
you
to
do
so,
and
then
it's
asking
them
to
bring
that
out
to
the
community
we've
added
a
box
on
our
domestic
violence
in
field
reporting
guide
that
that
requires
officers
to
ask
about
gvros
that
will
go
live
hopefully
soon.
I
actually
sent
the
memo
this
morning
over
to
the
city
attorney's
office
for
approval,
so
knock
on
wood,
we'll
get
that
out
pretty
soon.
L
The
the
report
receipts
that
we
give
to
survivors
of
sexual
assault
and
domestic
violence
and
partner
violence
all
have
gvro
resources
on
them
and
we
also
do
it
verbally.
We
basically
ask
in
every
single
instance
of
domestic
violence
or
intimate
partner
violence.
Are
there
firearms
on
the
premises
or
does
the
subject
have
access
to
firearms?
L
Not
just
are
they
in
the
house,
but
can
they
access
them,
maybe
they're
in
their
car,
maybe
they're
at
a
friend's
house,
maybe
they're
stored
at
a
storage
locker,
but
we
want
to
know
that
information
we
put
out
a
training
bulletin
on
this
fact
already
this
year,
and
so
I'm
talking
quickly
here,
council
member,
but
basically
to
answer
your
question-
we're
doing
a
lot.
We're
not
done
we're,
not
perfect,
but
I
will
tell
you
that
we
are
very
much
aware
of
this.
L
O
Those
are
absolutely
underreported
in
terms
of
what
is
happening
in
in
that
household
throughout
that
whole
year
and
what
those
children,
if
there
are
childhoods
in
the
house,
for
what
they're
witnessing
and
the
cycle
of
abuse
that
continues
to
happen,
and
so
for
me
this
is
part
of
what
I
would
like
to
see
in
our
center
the
police
department.
This
is
maybe
separate
from
this
conversation
now,
but
I
think
it's
it's
a
good
opportunity
for
us
to
bring
it
up,
and
that
is
to
also
look
at
these
patterns
of
you
know.
O
If
there
are
x
amount
of
uses
of
a
firearm
within
an
incident
of
domestic
violence
that
those
folks
are.
You
know
that
there
is
something
a
little
bit
more
proactive
other
than
with
our
service
providers
in
terms
of
bringing
those
folks
in
and
other
peripheral
services
that
could
help
that
and
support
and
stabilize
that
family.
Rather
than
waiting
for
this.
You
know-
and
I
realized
24
jets-
is
not
it
doesn't
point
to
a
crisis,
but
it
points
to
24
families
in
the
city
of
san
jose
lost.
O
Typically,
it
is
a
mother
that
is
in
that
position
or
that
they
lost
both
parents,
because
it's
a
murder,
suicide
and
so
that
this
is.
This
is
a
great
launch
pad
for
me
to
for
us
to
continue
to
talk
about
the
analysts
that
will
that
are
going
to
go
to
some
of
some
of
our
investigative
units
and
how
do
we
use
those
analysts
to
continue
to
be
upstream
of
this
information
rather
than
looking
back
and
seeing
what
those
patterns
are,
but
in
in,
in
current
time
being
able
to
be
proactive?
O
A
A
B
L
O
Men
are
the
ones
that
are
using
the
guns
and
typically
other
than
mass
shootings.
Maybe
women
are,
on
the
other
end
of
the
receiving
end
of
those
of
those
guns,
and
so
I
think
that
we
need
to
be
proactive
with
with
the
gender-based
programming
that
we
have
for
the
youth
intervention.
And
lastly,
I
just
want
to
say
that
there
is
some
really
wonderful
work.
That's
happening
out
of
our
prns,
our
parks
and
record
neighborhood
services
and
lighter
library
department
for
a
master,
a
child
and
yet
master
youth
plan.
O
B
Thank
you,
councilmember
we're
going
to
leave
it
there
because
we're
we're
out
of
time.
I
really
want
to
thank
both
all
the
experts
who
offered
their
great
insights
from
afar
and
the
other
coasts,
as
well
as
our
experts
right
here
at
home,
who've
been
working
so
hard
to
help
reduce
gun
violence.
We
know
we
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do,
but
it's
really
impressive.
What's
already
being
done,
and
I
just
want
to
commend
that.
We
have
several
members
of
the
community
who
may
like
to
speak.
A
All
right,
well,
beekman,
thanks
for
the
meeting
here
boy,
he
kind
of
went
had
a
very
nice
overview
of
a
constructive
overview
of
the
different
ways
to
talk
about
gun
use
and
the
future
of
san
jose.
I
hope
that
it
can
be
examples
of
constructive
purposes
in
how
a
city
government
works
to
address
its
gun
issues
and
that
can
be
taken
to
heart
by
all
parts
of
our
community.
A
Perhaps
a
bit
more
discussion
could
have
been
on
domestic
violence.
Thank
you
to
council
person
uranus
and
to
the
concepts
of
oversight
I
think
to
to
have
offered
the
concepts
of
how
oversight
could
play
into
all
of
this
into
our
future
would
be
an
important
element
that
would
please
you
know
certain
parts
of
our
community
that
we're
trying
to
we're
trying
to
bring
in
a
whole
community
process.
I
think
right
you,
you
obviously
built
a
constructive,
really
good
parts
you've
shown
today.
Thank
you,
good
luck!
A
How
to
really
bring
in
that
other
part
of
the
community.
I
think
it's
really
important
how
we
address
you,
know
the
trump
era
and
what
they
have
put
to
ourselves
and
what
they
want,
what
they
how
they
want
to
be
a
part
of
the
process.
It
is
really
up
to
us
how
to
bring
in
that
process
and
make
it
a
shared
process,
and
I
think
we
can
do
it
with
progressive
peace,
loving
ideas
that
are
that
are
well
reasoned
and
and
if
we
do
that,
that's
how
we
bring
in
a
whole
process.