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City of San José, California
Joint Meeting City Council / Santa Clara Valley Water District Board of March 19, 2021
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A
Welcome
everyone
we'll
we'll
convene,
then
the
joint
city,
council
and
water
district
board
special
meeting
for
friday
march
19th.
Thank
you,
chair
samara
and
staff
of
the
water
board
and
I'm
sorry
the
water
district.
We
are
very
grateful
to
have
this
time
together
to
discuss
these
very
important
issues
together,
chair
samara.
Would
you
like
to
jump
in.
B
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
mayor
good
morning.
Everyone,
the
special
joint
meeting
with
the
san
jose
city
council,
is
hereby
convened.
Madame
clerk,
please
call
the
roll.
C
D
E
F
E
D
G
A
Thank
you
now.
Perhaps
we
could
all
stand
if
you're
able
to
join
in
the
pledge
of
allegiance.
A
B
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
My
name
is
tony
estramares.
Most
of
you
know
I'm
chair
of
the
valley
water
board
of
directors
this
year
and
on
behalf
of
our
board,
I'd
like
to
welcome
the
san
jose
city,
council
and
and
staff,
and
thank
you
for
joining
us
today.
We
have
a
long
history
of
meeting
jointly
to
discuss
topics
of
mutual
interest
between
our
agencies
and
how
we
can
partner
on
important
issues,
of
course,
to
the
benefit
of
our
communities
and
even
though
the
pandemic
posed
a
lot
of
challenges
over
the
last
year.
B
I'm
pleased
that
we're
both
committed
to
continuing
this
tradition
so
that
we
can
best
serve
our
mutual
constituents.
Despite
the
challenges
of
operating
during
the
pandemic.
This
past
year
has
been
a
year
of
action
for
valley
water.
Our
priorities
remain
focused
on
providing
safe,
clean
and
reliable
water
on
advancing
and
building
flood
protection
projects
and
on
carrying
out
our
environmental
stewardship
activities.
B
One
of
the
biggest
accomplishments
over
the
last
year
was
the
passage
of
measure
s
which
renewed
the
existing
safe,
clean,
clean
water
and
natural
flood
protection
program
that
will
provide
badly
needed
funding
for
a
number
of
high
priority
projects
in
san
jose,
including
one
that
we'll
be
discussing
today.
The
anderson
dam
project,
however
valley
water,
could
not
achieve
the
region's
water
priorities
solely
on
our
own.
That's
why
we're
committed
to
working
closely
with
you.
B
B
A
Thank
you
chair.
You
know,
I
can't
say
it
any
better
than
chair
samara
did
grateful
for
this
opportunity
to
delve
into
these
very
important
issues
with
our
representatives
with
valet
water.
So
thank
you
for
this
opportunity
and
let's
jump
right
in.
B
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
Let's,
let's
do
introductions,
then
our
vice
chair
this
year
is
gary
kremen
director
gary
creman.
K
Welcome
everyone:
gary
creman,
representing
districts,
d,
seven
palo,
alto,
mountain
view,
los
altos,
los
altos
hills.
L
Thank
you
chair
good
morning,
everybody
I
come
to
you
today
at
the
foot
of
anderson
dam.
If
you
could
see
in
the
background
from
the
beautiful
district
one
which
represents
the
eastern
foothills
of
san
jose
on
the
through
the
coyote
valley,
the
open
space
area
into
local
areas
of
morgan,
hill,
unincorporated
area
of
san
martin
and,
of
course,
gilroy
good
to
be
with
you
all
this
morning,.
E
M
N
Good
morning
charles
ramirez
board
members,
mary
licaro
and
city
council,
rick
callender
valley,
water,
ceo.
The
first
item
that
we
have
is
our
anderson
dam,
seismic
retrofit
project
update
and
the
anderson
dam
sizing.
Retrofit
project
is
a
key
component
of
our
mission
to
provide
this
region
with
safe,
clean,
reliable
water
and
to
protect
this
region
from
flooding
and
remains
one
of
our
agencies
top
priorities.
N
This
morning,
you're
going
to
be
receiving
an
update
on
the
status
of
that
project
from
deputy
operating
officer
chris
hanks
of
our
damn
safety
and
supply
and
capital
delivery
division.
Deputy
hakes
I'm
going
to
ask
you
to
go
ahead
and
please
proceed.
O
O
Brief
background
on
the
project,
anderson
dam,
as
many
of
you
know,
is
our
largest
reservoir.
It
holds
90
000
acre
feet
approximately,
which
is
large
enough
to
fit
all
nine
of
our
other
groundwater
reservoirs.
Inside
the
footprint
for
anderson
reservoir
in
2002,
we
followed
up
our
independent
seismic
analysis
and
started
the
anderson
damn
size,
virtual
pit
project.
That's.
L
O
Because
the
dam
was
built
in
1950,
obviously
seismic
standards
have
updated
since
then.
So
after
our
analysis,
we
determined
it
was
time
to
bring
the
dam
up
to
current
seismic
standards.
There
was
a
little
bit
of
a
shift
in
the
project
on
february
20th
of
2020.
O
At
that
point,
the
federal
energy
regulatory
commission,
who
is
the
federal
body
that
regulates
dan
for
us,
did
determine
that
they
were
uncomfortable
with
the
downstream
community
risk
when
the
reservoir
might
get
full.
As
a
result,
they
ordered
us
to
do
a
number
of
things
which
I'll
cover
in
a
future
slide.
O
So
here's
the
existing
dam
as
you
can
see
on
the
upper
left,
there's
a
spillway.
You
have
a
very
undersized
outlet
pipe
that
runs
right
under
the
embankment.
The
outlet
pipe
is
capable
of
discharging
at
about
500
cubic
feet
per
second,
compared
to
the
90
000
acre
foot
capacity,
that's
kind
of
like
draining
a
giant
55
gallon
garbage
can,
with
a
straw,
it's
not
very
effective.
O
We
have
our
dam
crafts,
which
is
just
the
top
of
the
dam,
the
roadway
that
runs
over
it
and
the
dam
embankment,
which
is,
of
course,
the
earthen
material.
That's
holding
back
the
water.
O
The
retrofit
project
components
are
as
follows:
we
will
be
completely
removing
all
the
liquefiable
material
that
is
in
the
dam
embankment
originally,
when
the
project
was
conceived
in
2012,
it
was
a
much
smaller
project.
It
was
basically
just
adding
material
to
the
downstream
or
dry
face
of
the
dam.
That's
kind
of
a
typical
seismic
retrofit
for
a
van,
you
just
add
more
material
to
stabilize
everything.
Unfortunately,
after
our
geotechnical
analysis
in
2016-2017,
we
determined
that
there
was
additional
liquefaction
potential
in
the
damn
embankment.
What
was
the
liquefaction
potential?
O
That
means
when
an
earthquake
starts
the
way
the
soil
interacts.
It
basically
loses
a
lot
of
its
rigidity,
acts
kind
of
like
stand
on
a
beach
where
you
think
it's
solid,
you
start
stepping
on
it
and
it
gets
a
little
bit
watery
and
basically,
it
has
the
ability
to
drop
20
or
30
feet,
which
is
not
ideal.
Obviously,
if
the
dam
is
full
of
reservoirs.
Excuse
me
next
component
is
replacement
of
the
spillway
originally,
when
the
project
was
conceived,
we
were
just
going
to
patch
our
spillway.
O
There
were
some
cracks,
some
drainage
issues,
we're
going
to
fix
that,
but
after
2017
and
the
orville
issue
that
happened,
the
california
department
of
safety
of
dams,
which
is
our
state
regulator
for
dam
safety,
completely
revised
spillway
criteria
across
the
state.
As
a
result,
in
this
project
we're
going
to
completely
replace
our
spillway,
and
that
happened,
you
know
2017-2018.
O
We
have
a
new
low-level
outlet
pipe
that
we're
installing.
As
I
mentioned,
the
the
the
outlet
that's
in
place.
Right
now
is
very
small
and
it
runs
under
the
embankment
it's
about
500
tfs,
the
new
low
lola
outlet
pipe
in
the
interim
condition,
which
I'll
talk
about
shortly,
we'll
be
able
to
discharge
to
about
2000
cfs
so
about
four
times
the
capacity
five
times.
O
The
capacity
when
you
add
it
with
the
existing
outlet
pipe,
ultimately,
that
low
level
outlet
pipe
will
be
able
to
transmit
about
6000
cubic
feet
per
second,
which
is
going
to
be
up
to
12
times
the
capacity
of
the
existing
outlet.
As
you
can
see,
it
runs
around
the
embankment
through
our
abutment.
That
means
it's
in
solid
rock
and
when
an
earthquake
does
happen,
there
is
no
liquefaction
potential
there,
which
means
that
outlet
pipe
won't
be
damaged.
O
In
the
case
of
an
earthquake,
we
have
a
temporary
water
diversion
system
in
order
to
help
drain
the
reservoir
and
facilitate
construction,
and
we
have
a
high
level
outlet
pipe.
This
is
one
of
those
new
requirements
from
the
department
of
safety
of
dams.
The
new
high
level
outlet
pipe
has
to
be
able
to
drain
about
30
percent
of
the
reservoir
in
seven
days.
O
So
what
happened
on
february
20th,
basically,
as
I
mentioned,
ferc,
was
uncomfortable
with
the
interim
risk
that
was
present
to
the
downstream
community,
so
they
did
a
few
different
things
at
the
time
of
the
order,
our
restricted
reservoir
level
was
elevation
592
feet.
The
total
elevation
of
the
res
of
the
reservoir
on
the
dam
crest
is
about
646
feet,
so
we
were
initially
limited
to
about
58
percent
of
capacity.
They
immediately
lowered
that
restriction
down
to
elevation
565,
which
is
about
35
capacity.
O
That
was
not
an
issue
we
were
already
in
compliance
at
the
time
of
the
order,
and
that
is
because
we
are
in
our
winter
operations
mode
when
we
leave
a
little
more
space
for
water.
That's
coming
in
the
second
component
was
to
take
all
necessary
steps
to
drain
down
to
elevation
488.
O
That
is
about
three
percent
of
the
capacity
of
the
reservoir
and
for
you
it's
a
special
number,
because
that's
how
far
we
can
drain
it
through
our
typical
outlet
any
lower
than
that
you
have
to
bring
in
outside
measures,
so
they
wanted
it
down
to
as
far
as
we
could
physically
drain
it
immediately.
So
we
took
measures
to
do
that
and,
beginning
october
1st
we
did
successfully
drain
the
reservoir
down
to
3
percent
and
that
occurred
probably
about
mid
december.
We
were
down
at
that
level.
O
We
also
developed
a
plan
to
maintain
that
level
as
winter
rains
come
in
and
we've
been
working
with
ferc
andy.
So
we
need
to
make
sure
that
those
discharges
are
in
line
with
what
they
are
expecting
to
see.
The
two
kind
of
most
important
things
that
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
today
are
they
did
direct
us
to
expedite
design
and
construction
of
that
low
level
outlet
tunnel
I
mentioned
there
was
going
to
be
an
interim
tunnel
that
was
capable
of
discharging
about
2
000
cfs.
O
That's
because
we're
going
to
actually
put
the
tunnel
in
decrease
its
capacity
to
discharge
a
little
bit
to
keep
those
flows
a
little
bit
more
manageable
and
we're
going
to
do
that,
starting
hopefully,
this
spring.
B
O
B
We
we
have,
we
have
a
question
from
council
member
esparza,
sure.
E
C
O
Our
low
level
outlet
tunnel
is
actually
out
for
bid
right
now.
We
have
pre-qualified
six
contractors
through
a
best
value
award.
We're
looking
to
open
bids
sometime
in
late
march
award
in
late
april,
hopefully
go
out
to
construction
the
next
month
in
may,
and
then,
of
course,
they
have
an
onus
in
that
order
on
actually
completing
the
larger
seismic
retrofit
project.
All
of
these
input
measures
are
band-aid.
O
So
this
is
what
kind
of
was
a
genesis
of
that
february.
20Th
order,
although
it
seems
like
we
were
just
to
install
the
low-level
outlet
tunnel,
there
are
actually
several
components.
There
are
about
11
different
elements
over
four
different
areas
where
we
have
to
do
something
to
address
that
order.
Of
course,
there's
a
reservoir
draw
down
the
anderson
dam
tunnel
construction
as
I've
stated
mutants
once
it's
actually
in
place,
but
there
are
some
other
issues
here
that
are
separate
projects
that
we'll
be
undertaking
as
well.
O
I've
got
some
of
them
on
some
future
slides,
but
in
case
anyone
wanted
to
read
ahead.
Here's
what
you'll
see
coming
up,
so
what
does
anderson
actually
look
like
at
three
percent?
This
is
an
overhead
shot
of
anderson
when
it's
full.
The
little
highlight
there
is
actually
the
footprint
of
anderson
at
three
percent.
It's
actually
not
empty.
It
has
about
three
thousand
acre
feet,
which
is
as
big
as
our
stevens
creek
reservoir.
So
there
is
water
present.
O
However,
in
comparison
to
the
full
body
of
water
anderson
reservoir,
it
is
quite
miniscule
in
in
in
leading
up
to
the
seismic
fit
project
and
specifically
the
tunnel
construction.
There
were
some
specific
measures
we
had
to
do
to
make
sure
the
environment
was
properly
mitigated
and
avoidance
of
innovation,
and
then
minimization
measures
were
put
in
place.
One
of
them
was
a
fish
rescue.
This
is
a
video
of
what
actually
occurred
during
august.
O
If
many
of
you
remember,
the
state
was
on
fire
at
that
point,
so
we
actually
had
staff
very
dedicated
staff
who
had
to
give
a
shout
out
to
who
were
out
there
and
the
temperature
was
about
110
115
degrees.
They
were
out
there
in
full
ppe
because
kobe's
running
wild
and
they
were
out
there
trying
to
rescue
fish,
and
this
is
a
video
of
what
they
actually.
O
There
you
go
and
you'll
see
that
the
fish
that
were
rescued
there
are
actually
effectively
threatened
species
they're
on
the
esa,
which
is
covered
under
the
esa,
which
is
the
endangered
species
act
and
that
is
actually
steelhead.
So
let's
go
to
the
next
slide.
So
what
are
some
of
the
impacts
of
having
that
reservoir
down
to
three
percent
in
the
overall
size
of
retrofit
project?
Obviously
we're
not
going
to
have
any
boating.
Okay,
this
shows
the
fully
dry
reservoir
last
time
it
was
actually
drained.
This
is
1987..
O
Of
course
we
do
have
water
in
the
reservoir
right
now,
but
it's
well
below
any
of
the
boat
ramps
or
launch
ramps,
so
we
are
unable
to
have
boating
for
the
next
decade.
Basically,
we
also
have
potential
rim
instability.
What
does
that
mean?
So
that
means
there's
landslide
potential
around
the
rim
of
the
reservoir.
Once
again,
these
are
pictures
from
1987.
O
in
order
to
prevent
this,
we've
actually
been
working
with
ferc
and
the
sod
on
a
very
slow
drawdown
rate.
So,
as
of
october
1st,
when
we
started
drawing
the
water
out
of
the
reservoir,
we
were
limited
to
a
net
100
cfs
that
actually
prevents
a
lot
of
this
movement
that
you're
seeing
we're
taking
measures
this
summer
in
order
to
stabilize
some
of
these
landslides.
O
So
in
the
future
we
will
be
able
to
draw
down
at
a
greater
net
rate,
but
for
now
we
very
we
had
a
very
limited
drawdown
in
order
to
prevent
these
instabilities,
it
obviously
had
impacts
on
some
of
the
santa
clara
county
parks.
All
the
parks
around
anderson,
the
the
park,
has
been
effectively
closed.
It's
been
basically
screened
off
and
that
is
for
public
safety.
There
are
different,
you
know,
impacts,
there's
mud.
O
I
know
people
get
really
kind
of
curious
on
what's
going
on,
they
like
to
hike
down
there,
it's
not
a
safe
condition
at
this
point,
so
the
park
amenities
have
been
shut
down
and
I
believe
the
next
slide
does
have
a
oh.
So
the
next
slide
is
a
coyote
creek
flood
management
measures.
So,
as
one
of
those
elements
you
saw,
we
will
be
discharging
the
higher
rate
through
the
low
level
outlet.
O
Potentially
once
the
project
is
complete,
the
project
is
scheduled
to
start,
like
I
said,
probably
may
will
run
through
december
of
2023
at
that
point,
we'll
have
the
ability
to
discharge
up
to
2500
cfs
the
coyote
creek
flood
management
measures
are
a
little
offshoot
of
the
coyote
creek
flood
protection
project
that
full
project,
I
believe,
will
provide
around
20
to
25
year
flood
protection
to
the
the
reaches
shown
here
and
reaches
four
five
six
seven.
Eight
this
project
will
only
provide
protection
against
those
flows
of
about
2500
cfs.
So
it's
not
the
full
managed.
O
It's
not
the
full
flood
protection
project.
These
are
actually
mitigation
measures
required
in
order
to
operate
the
low
level
outlet
tunnel.
So
basically,
this
is
what
you'll
see
per
reach.
This
is
ridge.
Five,
as
you
can
see,
we
do
have
some
raising
of
the
levees
and
installation
of
flood
walls
reach
six.
Once
again,
we
have
some
passive
barriers,
a
berm,
a
flood
wall
berm,
another
flood
wall
reach.
Seven,
we
have
the
elevation
or
acquisition
of
some
property
that's
down
in
the
affected
area.
O
O
As
I
said,
sometimes
it's
actually
more
effective
rather
than
putting
a
wall
in
because
there's
a
shorter
stretch,
you
want
to
elevate
a
home
in
general,
so
this
is
what
you
would
see
for
a
rendering
of
what
a
home
elevation
looks
like
you're,
obviously
trying
your
best
to
take
everything
that
could
possibly
be
potentially
waterlogged
and
putting
it
below
the
waterline
a
lot
of
times
in,
let's,
say
albiso.
Our
community
is
mandated
to
have
a
garage
on
the
bottom
floor
and
that
is
actually
to
get
you
above
the
flood
line.
O
So
where
have
we
been
and
why
is
it
taking
so
long?
You
heard
me
say
that
the
project
was
started
in
2011
through
an
independent
analysis
and
started
in
genuine
by
the
valley
water
in
2012.
Well,
we
have
a
ton
of
regulatory
agencies.
We
have
over
a
dozen
regulatory
agencies
that
we
deal
with
federal
state,
county
and
local,
and
I
don't
know
if
you've
ever
tried
to
get
concurrence
between
13
separate
parties
with
13
separate
missions,
but
it
takes
a
while.
O
O
We
do
have
permits
that
are
going
to
get
we're
going
to
get
permits
from
ferc
the
united
states
army
corps
of
engineers,
u.s
fish
and
wildlife
service,
national
marine
fisheries
service
department,
safety,
dams.
I
won't
read
the
rest,
you
can
see
them
for
yourself.
There
are
a
lot
of
permitting
agencies,
although
we're
only
doing
13
agencies
you
can
see,
we
have
several
different
types
of
permits.
O
All
that
results
in
the
timeline
we're
currently
on
right.
Now
I
like
to
focus
on
the
upper
portion
of
the
schedule,
because
that's
where
we're
at
right
now,
you
can
see
we're
into
2021
we're
about
to
go
into
construction
on
the
tunnel.
You
can
see
we'll
be
down
at
three
percent
for
the
extended
duration.
The
reason
I
don't
focus
on
the
lower
portion
is
it's
kind
of
based
on
some
of
the
design
that
was
previously
put
in
place
when
it
was
one
project
so
that
construction
duration,
it
reflects
the
old
construction
duration.
O
Well,
our
attempt
is
to
bring
that
back
in
line
and
basically
shrink
it
down
once
we
finish
construction
on
the
lower
level
outlet,
we
want
to
roll
right
into
construction
on
the
embankment,
so
we're
hoping
to
actually
compress
the
construction
schedule
for
the
second
half
of
the
overall
size
of
a
retrofit
project,
and
a
lot
of
that
will
depend
on
how
our
permitting
efforts
go
as
the
low-level
outlet
tunnel
is
under
construction,
and
I
believe
that
wraps
up
my
presentation,
so
I'm
open
to
questions
I'm
going
to
stop
sharing
my
screen.
B
C
E
Thank
you.
I
have
a
few
questions.
One
is
my
office
has
been
participating
in
the
quarterly
meetings
hosted
by
congresswoman,
zoe
lofgren,
and
one
of
the
things
that
came
out
of
the
last
meeting
was
the
project
milestone,
timeline
that
broke
down
a
lot
of
the
targeted
dates
for
most
of
this
work,
and
I
wanted
to
ask
how
closely
on
track
the
work
is
with
the
dates
anticipated
in
that
document.
E
O
So
there
was
the
award
is
still
scheduled
for
april.
Right
now
we
have
been
in
weekly
discussions
with
department
of
safety
at
dams
and
federal
energy
regulatory
commission
on
approval
of
the
project.
What
we're
looking
right
now
at
is
a
phased
approval.
We
went
to
our
independent
board
of
consultants
who
said
the
project.
Is
construction
ready,
we're
ready
to
go
from
the
design
perspective?
O
However,
just
the
sheer
number
of
share
number
of
approvals
that
are
required
from
a
permitting
perspective
will
take
some
time
so
in
order
to
help
us
out
with
that
ferc
and
the
are
looking
at
phasing
the
project.
So
basically
there.
What
we've
heard
as
of
last
week
is
between
april
9th
and
april
13th.
We
should
get
partial
approval
to
approve
to
base
people
to
award
the
project.
We
expect
that
will
come
in,
as
I
said,
probably
the
first
or
second
full
week
of
april.
We'll
then
go
to
our
board
meeting
on
april
26th.
O
We
did
that
to
allow
a
little
more
time
for
some
of
the
other
agencies
to
get
through
their
reviews.
Cdfw
us
army
corps
of
engineers
were
looking
to
permit
the
whole
facility,
not
just
portions
they're,
not
trying
to
do
the
face
approval,
they're,
trying
to
do
a
whole
approval.
So
basically
we
award
on
the
26th
and
that
should
still
keep
us
on
schedule
to
actually
go
out
to
a
groundbreaking
sometime
in
may.
E
Okay,
so
that's
how
we
got
to
may
okay,
that's
helpful.
Thank
you.
So
last
year
the
mayor,
councilmember
perales
and
I
submitted
a
letter
in
support
of
ab3005
to
expedite
this
project
at
the
state
level.
I'm
very
disappointed
to
see
a
veto
by
the
governor
on
this.
So
I
wanted
to
ask
given
the
setback,
how
is
what's
happening
at
the
state
level
on
this?
Are
you
getting
the
response
that
you
need
from
state
agencies.
O
I
know
we
do.
We
do
have
a
follow-up
bill,
80
271
that
will
take
on
our
best
value
contract
and
we
have
been
dealing
with
a
lot
of
state
agencies
who
were
involved
in
the
permitting
received
commitments
to
expedite
all
of
the
different
reviews.
So
I'd
say
that
we're
getting
the
necessary
support
that
we
need,
but
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
kick
it
over
to
our
chief
of
external
affairs,
rachel
gibson.
If
she
has
any
other
additional
information
that
you'd
like
to
share.
C
D
C
E
Okay
and
I'd
like
to
know
whatever
I'm
looking
at
lee
on
the
tic-tac-toe
screen,
so
that
we
can
do
whatever
we
need
to
do
to
support
that
mayor.
You
look
like
you
have
something
to
say:
nope,
no,
just
listen,
okay,
thanks!
So
my
last
question
is
so
I
represent
district
7.
As
you
know,
along
with
council
member
perales,
our
districts
were
flooded
in
the
coyote
creek
flood,
and
so
I
wanted
to
ask
about
that
flood
project.
E
I
understand
that
the
40
that
is
being
accelerated
in
the
northern
section
of
the
project
doesn't
include
any
of
the
portions
in
district
7
and
council
district
three
year,
council
district,
seven.
I
know
I'm
in
reach
area
eight,
which
includes
the
rock
springs
community
that
was
devastated
by
the
2017
flood.
I
won't.
I
just
want
to
understand
the
reasons
for
prioritizing
this
work
downstream.
E
O
So
I
believe,
that's
all
based
on
what
the
flow
is.
So
obviously
there
is
flooding
at
different,
broken
distance
at
2500
cfs,
which
is
what
we
anticipate
to
be
the
maximum
flow
for
discharge
from
the
low
level
outlet
tunnel.
What
we
are
targeting
is
the
areas
that
would
see
flooding
at
that
level
above.
I
believe
that
rock
springs
might
actually
flood
above
that
level
or
have
water
to
come
on
to
the
premises,
I'm
actually
going
to
kick
it
over.
I
believe
that
alec
nichols
is
on
the
he
should
be
he's.
O
Actually,
the
project
manager
that's
seeing
the
overall
coyote
flood
protection
project,
the
administration
and
construction.
So
I'm
hoping
he's
online
and
tell
you
a
little
bit
more.
C
Yes,
good
morning,
everyone,
alec
nicholas
capital
engineering
manager,
water,
says
design
and
construction
overseeing
the
design
of
the
coyote
creek
project,
as
as
chris
mentioned,
the
the
reason
for
prioritizing.
Some
of
these
elements
is
to
make
sure
that
the
communities
along
coyote
creek
between
reaches
four
through
eight
are
protected,
with
these
higher
flows
from
the
anderson
dam
tunnel
project
operation
of
2500
cfs.
C
C
To
also
add
one
clarification
point
any
of
these
40
of
these
elements
that
chris
has
been
mentioning
while
they
will
be
constructed
on
a
more
expedited
schedule
and
they
will
provide
protection
for
this
2500
cfs
flow.
They
will
be
designed
and
constructed
to
prevent
or
flooding
from
a
20-year
flood
event,
which
is
a
2017
event.
J
You
good
morning
good
to
see
everyone.
I
represent
district
10
where
we're
very
happy
to
have
your
offices
nice,
to
see
you
all
just
a
couple,
quick
questions
from
me.
One
is
I'm
curious
to
know
a
little
more
about
the
new
embankment
and
how
you
assess
the
strength
or
resiliency
of
it.
What
kind
of
what
magnitude
earthquake
can
it
withstand?
How
many
years
do
we
expect
it
to
be
to
be
kind
of
operationally
sound,
just
curious
to
learn
a
little
more
about
that
for
my
constituents.
O
Sure
so,
in
general,
what
you're
looking
at
right
now
is
the
the
material
that's
on
the
embankment.
It's
all
earthen
material
right.
However,
the
gradation
of
the
material
is
what
affects
if
it
becomes
liquid
viable.
So
when
we
remove
that
material,
we're
going
to
put
a
more
finely
grated
and
uniformly
graded
material
in
there
that
drains
a
little
bit
better
and
performs
a
little
bit
better
on
an
earthquake.
We
have
two
main
faults.
Basically,
I
think
it's
the
coyote
creek
fault
and
the
rock
oh
shoot.
O
I
can't
remember
the
total,
but
there's
a
there's,
another
fault
that
are
very
close
to
the
actual
embankment
and
the
dam
itself
within
a
mile.
I
think
1.2
miles.
So
in
order
to
design
to
the
current
standard,
we
are
basically
we
look
at
what
the
maximum
credible
earthquake
is
right.
We're
not
saying
that
it's
it's
a
9.0
earthquake
on
a
the
san
andreas
fault,
because
that's
not
really
relevant
to
what
we're
doing
right
now
right.
We
look
at
the
faults
that
are
in
the
area.
O
We
forecast
what
the
maximum
potential
earthquake
that
you
could
have
on
either.
Those
faults
would
be
it's
about
a
7.2
on
one
fault
and
a
6.5
on
the
other,
and
basically,
if
either
of
those
faults
should
happen
to
occur,
we
expect
the
embankment
to
perform
as
designed
and
basically
maybe
a
little
bit
of
you
know
slumping
and
depression,
but
nothing
to
the
order
of
the
20-30
feet
that
we're
seeing
right
now.
O
Quite
frankly,
the
facility
life,
I
think,
is
forecasted
at
a
minimum
of
50
years.
But
realistically
what
you're
looking
at
is
75
to
100
years,
depending
on
how
our
new
design
criteria
advance
anderson
dam
itself
was
built
in
1950,
it's
been
around
70
years.
It's
seen
all
of
the
earthquakes
in
the
the
area,
loma
prieta,
morgan
hill
right.
It's
actually
performed
quite
well
we're
just
looking
at
that
that
off
chance
that
there
is
that
maximum
incredible
earthquake
on
one
of
those
closer
faults
and
that's
what
we're
protecting
against.
O
So
as
anyone
who
lives
in
california
knows,
earthquakes
are
very
unpredictable.
You
know
they
say
we're
overdue
for
the
big
one
and
everyone
kind
of
has
that
in
the
back
of
their
head.
But
the
longer
we
go
that
kind
of
it
kind
of
just
kind
of
drifts
back,
and
we
think
oh
we're
doing
pretty
good.
So
I
would
say
that
you
know
it
just
depends
on
when
an
earthquake
might
happen
how
severe
it
is,
but
even
in
the
worst
case
scenario,
the
facility
should
be
able
to
stand
up
to
that.
J
Great
thanks,
okay,
it's
good
to
know
and
then
I'm
sure
you've
done
a
bunch
of
modeling
around
water
supply
if
we
were
to
head
into
a
drought
of
some
severity
over
the
next
decade,
given
that
this
is
your
largest
reservoir,
what
are
the
implications
for
water
supply?
You
know
having
it
offline,
essentially.
O
Sure
so,
we've
always
known
that
the
project
was
going
to
happen.
So
we've
been
behind
the
scenes
making
plans
for
augmenting
our
water
supply.
We
actually
have
several
sources
that
we
rely
upon.
We
have
a
semi-tropic
banking
outside
of
the
county.
Our
groundwater
basin
is
basically
full.
Our
staff
did
an
incredible
job
in
managing
the
groundwater
basin
coming
out
of
our
last
route,
so
that
when
we
actually
came
out
of
the
drought
we
were
at
our
normal.
We
do
have
imported
water
supplies
and
contracts
that
come
in
from
both
the
state
and
federal
governments.
O
So
all
of
those
together
have
formed
a
kind
of
a
safety
net.
The
irania.
O
Anderson
or
maybe
not
ironic,
but
one
thing
that
people
don't
think
about
it-
is
our
largest
reservoir,
but
in
a
prolonged
drought
we
actually
don't
have
water
replaced
there.
So,
the
last
time
we
saw
a
drought,
even
though
we
were
under
restriction
at
about
58
capacity
by
the
end
of
the
drought
you
could
see,
there
was
no
water
in
henderson,
it
was
getting
pretty
low
right
and
that's
just
because
without
the
local
rainfall
without
the
important
supplies,
we
didn't
have
any
water
to
place
in
anderson.
O
So
we've
we've
done
a
good
job
of
crafting
a
different
scenario.
To
make
sure
that
the
public
will
public
needs
will
be
met
throughout
this
entire
project
and
maybe
aaron
baker.
Our
chief
operating
officer
at
the
water
use
water
utility
would
like
to
add
a
little
more
to
that.
O
Chris,
I
think
you've
got
it.
We
also
have
we'll
be
giving
a
water
supply
update
later
on
and
we
could
delve
into
a
little
bit
further
on
our
current
and
future
water
supply.
But
chris
is
correct.
C
H
J
O
So
our
chief
financial
officer,
darren
taylor,
lives
on
the
line
as
well,
but
I'm
gonna
take
a
first
swing
at
this.
We
actually
have
been
planning
for
the
anderson
project
since
wayback
in
2012,
so
he's
done
a
nice
job
of
smoothing
the
water
rates
to
account
for
construction
of
the
project.
You
know
the
water
supplies
that
we're
looking
at
purchasing
are
dwarfed
by
the
overall
capital
cost
of
the
project.
It's
currently,
I
want
to
say
about
650
million
dollars
when
inflated.
O
So
that's
what
we've
been
planning
for
for
a
long
time,
it's
already
built
into
the
water
rates.
You
shouldn't
see
a
blip
in
the
rates
because
the
project
has
started.
This
is
a
you
know,
long
time
coming
and
he's
done
a
very
fine
job.
I'll
turn
it
over
to
him.
If
he
has
any
additional
comment.
C
Yeah,
thank
you.
So
I
think
the
only
thing
I
would
add
to
that
is
that
we
have
included
in
the
proposed
fy
22
budget,
some
dollars
for
supplemental
water
purchases
to
the
tune
of
12.4
million
dollars,
supplemental
water
purchases
and
and
water
banking
takes
for
fy
22.
Just
because
of.
O
For
for
fy22
and
that's
kind
of
baked
in
and
and
I'll
talk
more
about
it
in
in
the
later
on
in
the
presentation
on
the
water
charge
overview.
J
O
Well,
yeah
it.
It
depends
on
the
the
magnitude
of
those
flows
right
very
high
flows,
not
necessarily
the
best
thing,
especially
if
they're
contained
we.
This
is
actually
part
of
our
larger
creek
measures
that
we're
putting
into
place
for
face,
which
is
the
fisheries
and
aquatic
habitat
collaborative
effort.
I
believe
it's
called,
and
basically
what
we're
looking
at
is
actually
revising
the
operation
of
anderson
once
it's
full
in
order
to
create
pulse
flows
and
additional
flows
into
coyote
creek
to
better
support
the
environment.
O
What
we've
really
been
missing
for
the
last
decade
is
a
large
cold
water
pool
in
anderson
right,
that's
what
the
steelhead
love,
but
we've
been
down
to
that
restricted
capacity
about
58,
so
we
really
haven't
had
the
luxury
of
augmenting
flows
in
coyote
creek,
like
some
of
the
the
regulatory
agencies
for
fisheries
would
like
so
once
this
project
is
complete.
We're
actually
going
to
have
the
ability
to
better
help
the
environment.
B
F
Yeah,
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
the
presentation
and
also
I've
been
benefiting
from
participating
with
congresswoman
lofgren's
office
in
the
joint
meetings
as
well
as
council
member
esparza,
and
that
has
been
very
helpful.
I
think
the
coordinated
effort
certainly
has
helped
to
move
things
along
and,
as
was
was
presented
by
chris.
It
is
difficult
and
I've
been
watching
that
and
seeing
that
in
regards
to
all
the
different
agencies
involved
and
and
certainly
have
appreciated,
seeing
the
progress
to
date.
F
O
Days,
that's
the
yesterday
requirement,
so
it's
it's
used
for
emergency.
Basically,
if
an
earthquake
happens,
there's
an
emergency
condition
with
them.
They
would
order
us
to
release
through
that
outlet.
F
Okay
and
then
I
was
just
curious,
what
would
induce
flooding
look
like
if
we
were
to
have
that
level
of
of
release?
What
does
that
look
like
as
far
as
implications?
You
know
that
we
would
maybe
see
in
a
traditional
flood
what
kind
of
induced
flooding
would
we
would
we
see
with
that
type
of
release.
O
O
Those
actually
look
at
more
of
a
failure
of
a
full
reservoir
at
you
know,
kind
of
catastrophic
condition
that
high
level
of
releasing-
and
you
know
at
a
more
measured
rate-
will
mean
you'll
see
a
lot
less
flooding
than
would
have
been
induced,
really
that
that
kind
of
a
measure
is
the
kind
of
a
parachute
escape.
F
The
curious
thing-
I
guess
if
I
could
get
some
some
follow-up
on
that,
I
would
like
to
see
what
that
looks
like,
and
I
know
that.
Obviously
there
are
measures
ahead
of
time
right
that
we
can
look
at
like
the
low-level
outlet
pipe
right
and
and
being
able
to
try
and
and
prevent
getting
to
that
point.
But
as
we
know,
when
we
hit
some
of
these,
these,
you
know
whether
it's
an
atmospheric
river,
again
or
other
or
other.
F
You
know
kind
of
situations,
especially
as
we
get
to
what
we
know
is
inevitable.
A
major
earthquake
happening.
F
There
may
be
a
time
where
we
have
to
use
this
high
level
outlet
pipe,
and
so
I
would
just
be
curious
myself
to
know-
and
I
know
my
residence
would
be
well
what
what
would
that
look
like
so
maybe
a
best
case
scenario,
but
it
still
may
have
some
implications.
A
Thank
you.
I
really
appreciate
the
presentation,
and
particularly
the
questions
of
councilmember
mayhem,
about
water
supply
and
appreciate
that
there
are
other
sources
and
we'll
be
talking
about
this
in
greater
detail.
I
know
in
just
another
two
items
but
it'd
be
also
helpful
to
understand.
Maybe
during
that
presentation
or
another
is,
you
know,
does
anderson
provide
other
critical
sources
that
we
need
to
be
thinking
about,
for
example,
is
it
a
source
for
recharge
that
would
maintain
groundwater
levels?
A
You
know,
I
know,
we've
got
a
tough
decade
ahead
without
anderson
and
we
know
there's
there's
a
drought
coming
so
just
be
helpful
to
understand
all
the
implications
both
on
cost
and
on
supply.
O
Just
I
believe,
they'll
probably
cover
that
in
the
next
presentation,
but
absolutely
okay,
mark
groundwater
recharge.
That's
through
discharge
compatibility,
we're
actually
looking
to
maintain
those
recharge
and
discharges
through
the
use
of
imported
water
during
construction
on
anderson.
So
we
are
looking
at
that.
B
B
B
B
Okay,
perhaps
we
can
have
the
comment
when,
when
when
they
can,
when
they
can
speak,
okay,
okay,
so
yeah
we'll
have
the
member
of
the
member
can
communicate
with
us,
we'll
have
them
come
on.
So
thank
you
all
for
the
discussion.
No
motion
is
required
for
this
informational
report.
Now
I'd
like
to
turn
things
back
over.
P
Yeah,
you
guys
are
talking
about
all
this
work.
You're
gonna,
do
what
you
need
to
do
is
read
some
history
books
about
how
the
native
american
people
figured
out
flood
control
and
they
didn't
have
bulldozers
and
computers
and
all
this
and
it's
amazing
how,
after
all
these
years,
this
county
city,
state
water,
company,
santa
clara
valley,
water,
taj,
mahal
over
there
on
amadek
or
on
a
blossom
hill
or
almond
expressway,
you
guys
can't
figure
it
out.
It's
unbelievable!
P
It's
it's!
It's
really
bad
and
all
the
rates,
hikes
and
fees
that
you
charge
and
you
can't
figure
out
flood
control.
Yet
after
all
these
years,
it's
unbelievable
and
the
the
water
rates
are
disgusting.
This
is
smoke
and
mirrors,
which
you
guys
are
talking
about
now,
then
you
floor,
it
fluoridated
the
water
which
is
poison.
That's
what
the
nazis
did
at
the
concentration
camp.
That's
a
true
story,
read
about
it.
P
You
should
all
be
ashamed
of
yourself
at
valley,
water,
what
you
charge
people
and
how
you
don't
even
know
what
waterways
or
whose
you
know
the
county
doesn't
know.
If
it's
the
state,
you
don't
know
if
it's
the
city,
what
do
you
guys
know
down
there?
I'd
like
to
know
I
like
to
I'd
like
you
to
explain
why
it's
so
screwed
up
I'd
really
like
to
know
because
it's
awful
and
everybody
is
furious
at
these
water
rates,
and
now
you
guys
can't
even
control
the
dam
that
you
built
in
1950.
P
B
Thank
you
for
your
comments.
All
right,
we'll
move
right
along
and
we'll
have
we'll
get
back
to
this.
Our
ceo
calendar
for
the
next
item.
N
All
right
moving
on
to
item
five,
which
is
an
update
on
the
valley,
water,
district's
efforts
to
develop
purified
water
projects
in
santa
clara
county,
and
thank
you,
chair
estromera
item
2.2
will
be
presented
by
assistant
officer,
kristen,
struve
of
valley
water.
But
before
I
pass
over
kristin,
I
just
want
to
share
our
sincere
gratitude
and
appreciation
to
the
city
of
san
jose
and
the
city
of
san
jose
the
city
manager
and
staff
for
your
collaboration
on
this
critical
project.
N
You
know
this
is
a
perfect
example
of
another
opportunity
to
continue
our
long
history
of
collaboration
on
recycled
water.
I'm
going
to
ask
the
staff
to
queue
up
a
a
comet
that
was
that
both
myself,
as
well
as
the
members
of
my
board,
were
very
encouraged
by
when
miss
carrie
romanoff
appeared
at
valley,
waters,
recycled
water
committee,
this
january
after
numerous
staff
level
discussions
and
provided
a
comment
to
valley
water
boards
and
a
commitment
to
work
together.
Maybe
we
can
play
that
clip.
D
I'm
great
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
for
me
to
join
today
and,
as
melanie
said,
the
four
of
us
had
a
really
productive
meeting
on
wednesday,
and
I
think
really,
you
know
daylighted
some,
some
of
the
things
that
we
need
to
focus
on
and
we
need
to
move
more
quickly.
Both
melanie
and
rick
were
clear
that
the
monetary
savings
of
integrating
both
the
new
facility
with
the
existing
facility
was
meaningful
to
the
community
and
very
important
to
valley
water.
D
And
so,
while
I
wouldn't
say
we
actually
have
time
to
do
it,
we
committed
to
to
find
the
time
to
do
it.
And
what
we
agreed
to
do
is
that
we
would
each
to
kind
of
cut
to
the
chase
we'd
each
craft
lists
of
key
terms
that
the
new
agreement
needed
to
have
and
that
we'll
get
our
draft
list
to
valley
water
by
tuesday
at
noon.
D
Monday's,
the
holiday
and
and
then
we'll
we'll
start
diving
into
those
and
see
what
we
can
chip
away
with
and
see
how
we
can
get
to
agreement
very
quickly
and
then
move
through
the
details
and
so
that
you're
able
to
to
meet
this
timeline.
Yeah.
We,
as
melanie,
said,
we've
tackled
this
a
long
time.
Our
city
attorneys
have
concerns
about
private
activity
and
we've
spent
a
lot
of
time
on
it
together,
and
I
think
now
that
there's
more
clarity
on
the
project,
my
hope
is
we
can.
D
We
can
reach
agreement
and
come
away
with
a
plan
that
doesn't
concern,
doesn't
create
any
legal
risk
for
our
existing
bonds
and
enables
valley
water
to
move
forward
with
this
project.
We're
super
excited
about
the
project
we
think
it's
very
again
very
important
to
the
region
and
and
want
to
continue
to
be
a
great
partner
with
with
valley
water.
N
Well,
obviously,
from
the
clip,
you
can
clearly
understand
why
we're
encouraged.
However,
when
I
read
the
city
of
san
jose
staff
member
and
I
was
a
bit
perplexed
to
see
the
suggestion
of
options
to
possibly
delay
negotiations
and
encouraging
us
to
proceed
with
the
palo
alto
mountain
view,
project
instead
of
san
jose
and
not
pursue
a
win-win
for
san
jose
and
valley
water,
especially
in
the
face
of
a
drought.
N
I
know
this
project
can
be
beneficial
for
san
jose,
both
financially
and
in
the
face
of
climate
change
to
to
meet
san
jose's
climate
change
action
goals.
The
san
jose
project
is
valley,
water's,
preferred
project,
and
I
hope,
after
the
presentation
from
our
staffs,
both
the
council
and
the
board
will
agree
that
this
is
a
cost,
effective
solution
for
valley,
water
and
the
city
to
help
us
mute
our
mutual
and
our
individual
goals.
A
D
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mayor
licardo,
and
certainly
surprised
to
hear
the
clip
and,
and
what
was
the
context
of
the
conversation
really
was.
You
know,
rick
met
with
rick
melanie
met
with
dave,
and
I
and
we
agreed
to
talk
for
four
weeks.
We
said
hey,
you
know.
If
there's
a
way
to
to
get
to
agreement
on
this,
we
would
we
would
talk
for
four
weeks.
D
Four
weeks
turned
into
six
and
we
stayed
in
the
game,
but
we
certainly
haven't
haven't
reached
agreement,
and
so
you
know
I
I
think
it's
a
little
inaccurate
to
portray
it
as
though
you
know
we
we
said
we
were
in
both
feet
for
the
long
haul.
We
did
say
we
thought
it
would
take
about
two
years
to
get
to
to
that
kind
of
agreement,
but
you
know
at
rick's
request.
I
agree
to
to
talk
for
a
month.
A
Thank
you.
I
think
it's
important
to
have
that
context.
I
I
think
that's
a
pretty
unusual
tactic
that
I've
ever
seen
in
which
we've
ever
played
a
clip
of
someone's
staff,
so
I
hope
that
we
can
be
more
collaborative
and
how
we
work
together
on
this,
because
you
know
that
kind
of
approach
is
not
one
that
I
think
lends
itself
to
collaboration.
Q
Yes,
good
morning,
honorable
board
and
council,
my
name
is
kirsten
stroup,
I'm
assistant
officer
in
the
water
supply
division,
and
I
will
be
presenting
this
item.
Please.
Let
me
know
if
there's
any
audio
issues
or
you
can't
see
the
screen
with
climate
change,
santa
clara
county
will
face
more
droughts
with
resulting
economic
impacts.
We
are
also
very
concerned
about
land
subsidence,
which
is
the
sinking
of
the
land
when
we
over
pump
our
groundwater.
Q
Q
Q
Q
The
highly
purified
water
is
blended
with
the
recycled
water,
which
is
produced
at
the
wastewater
treatment
plant,
which
is
also
pictured
here,
to
enhance
its
quality
to
the
level
more
suitable
for
the
irrigation
and
industrial
uses,
capital
contributions
to
construct
the
facility
included
11
million
dollars
from
san
jose
and
65
million
from
valley,
water
and
valley.
Water
provides
operation,
maintenance
services
for
the
facility
with
a
cost
ship
from
the
city.
Through
the
integration
agreement
valley
waters,
operation
maintenance
has
provided
12
million
dollars
towards
enhanced
recycled
water
quality.
Since
the
facility
began
operations
in
2014..
Q
This
facility
has
demonstrated
the
safety,
cleanliness
and
reliability
of
advanced
water
purification
as
a
new,
locally
controlled
and
drought
resilient
water
supply.
It
has
so
far
produced
10
billion
gallons
of
purified
water
valley.
Water
has
also
collaborated
with
the
city
and
other
partners
on
developing
the
county.
Wide
order
use
master
plan,
as
well
as
the
previous
selfie
water
recycling
master
plan
and
potable
water
reuse
was
found
to
be
the
most
cost
effective
investment
for
the
future.
Q
Q
You
will
note
an
arrow
leaving
the
purification
facility
that
is
called
ro,
concentrate,
that
is
reverse
osmosis,
concentrate
basically,
ro
removes
viruses
and
pollutants,
and
this
is
the
same
technology
that
would
be
used
for
desalinating
seawater,
so
for
every
hundred
gallons
that
go
into
the
product
into
the
facility,
85
gallons
of
pure
water
are
produced
and
15
gallons
concentrate
all
the
dissolved
constituents
that
were
in
the
water
already,
that
is
the
our
concentrate
or
also
called
brine
and
there's
no
material
added.
Q
So
the
amount
of
pollutants,
including
nutrients,
is
the
same
at
the
current
facility
in
san
jose.
The
aura
concentrate
is
blended,
with
the
wastewater
effluent
and
discharged
to
the
bay.
This
approach
is
included
and
allowed
in
the
treatment
plants
permit
and
has
been
used
without
environmental
impact.
Q
Since
2014,
we
have
also
been
working
on
many
other
evaluations
and
analyses
to
find
other
solutions
for
ro
concentrate
and
have
been
working
closely
with
with
the
regulators
and
conducting
studies,
to
support
to
support
that
regulators
in
the
environmental
community
have
been
very
supportive
of
increased
water
recycling
and
the
need
to
manage
the
waste
stream
cost
effectively.
Q
Our
analysis
in
our
county,
wide
water
reuse
master
plan
found
blending
with
the
wastewater
effluent
to
be
an
effective
solution
that
ensures
the
treatment
plant
can
meet
its
permit
requirements.
The
project
also
includes
18
to
20
miles
of
pipeline,
to
convey
the
water
to
our
los
gatos
recharge
system
in
campbell.
Q
The
purpose
of
this
project
is
to
further
develop
purified
water
as
a
drought,
resilient
local
water
supply
per
our
water
supply
master
plan.
We
have
a
goal
to
double
the
share
of
recycled
and
purified
water
in
our
portfolio
to
10,
and
our
board
of
directors
has
asked
to
implement
this
project
as
soon
as
feasible
with
procurement.
Later
this
year,.
Q
An
expanded
or
integrated
facility
in
san
jose
would
best
serve
our
mutual
ratepayers
due
to
the
substantial
cost
savings
of
at
least
50
million
dollars
and
operational
efficiencies.
That
would
be
realized,
which
is
why
our
recommendation
today
is
to
direct
staff
to
collaborate
to
complete
negotiations
for
the
needed
agreements
by
june
2021,
with
direction
to
prioritize
an
integrated
facility
located
in
san
jose
that
provides
purified
water
for
groundwater
recharge.
Q
Such
an
expanded
facility
would
leverage
our
current
partnership
have
reduced
environmental
footprint
and
increase
cost
efficiencies
to
support
the
south
bay
water
recycling
program.
The
palo
alto
agreement
includes
support
for
non-portable,
recycled
water
in
terms
of
wastewater
transfer
for
our
concentrate
management
and
cooperation
on
a
land.
Lease
valley,
water,
city
of
san,
jose
and
city
of
santa
clara
staff
have
been
discussing
expansion
of
purified
water
for
a
number
of
years
and
have
recently
had
very
productive
discussions
for
the
proposed
agreement
with
san
jose
and
santa
clara.
Q
This
proposed
project
does
not
increase
mass
loading
to
the
bay
and
we
are
committed
to
collaborating
with
the
wastewater
facility
and
regulators
to
ensure
that
all
regulatory
issues
are
addressed.
The
project
minimizes
greenhouse
gases,
by
requiring
less
construction,
having
more
efficient
operations
and
due
to
the
cost
savings
of
the
expanded
facility
impacts
to
the
city
and
county's
water
rate
payers
are
less
and
finally,
it
ensures
a
long-term,
viable
water
supply,
which
is
the
the
reason
for
this
project.
Q
In
october,
2020,
the
board
directed
staff
to
launch
a
public-private
partnership
or
p3
procurement
plan.
The
p3
approach
will
use
a
design.
Build
finance,
operate,
maintain
delivery
method
where
a
private
entity
delivers
a
project
valley.
Water
will
retain
ownership
of
the
project
and
partner
with
this
private
entity.
The
benefits
of
this
approach
are
that
we
will
realize
accelerated
project
delivery
and
efficiencies
and
project
construction
life
cycle,
which
will
reduce
the
impact
on
our
ratepayers.
Q
Q
We
are
currently
working
to
get
all
necessary
agreements
in
place
for
our
board
to
make
a
decision
on
the
most
feasible
location
in
the
summer
of
this
year.
We
will
release
an
rfq
shortly
and
then
an
rfp
in
the
fall
and
we
hope
to
have
our
procurement
completed
in
2022,
at
which
point
the
private
entity
will
work
to
design
and
construct
the
project
by
2028
and
then
have
water
flowing
to
our
los
gatos
recharge
system.
H
Thank
you
kirsten
one
sec
as
we
bring
up
the
presentation.
I
I
wouldn't
call
it
a
question,
but
I'm
happy
to
say
it
now.
You
know
I.
I
do
think
it's
important
to
kind
of
clear
a
few
things
up
here.
I
You
know
a
while
back
as
as
kerry
rick
mentioned
carrie
rick
and
milan,
and
I
met
to
kind
of
talk
about
this
project
and
and
how
we
move
forward
and
as
carrie
mentioned,
we
we
agreed
that
let's
take
the
next
four
weeks
or
so,
and
try
and
figure
out
if
we
can
really
have
a
path
forward
for
us
after
about
four
or
five
weeks,
or
so
I
checked
in
with
carrier.
She
checked
in
with
me
and
seemed
like.
I
We
hadn't
really
made
very
much
progress
and
I
I'd
called
rick
and
talked
it
over
with
him
and
and
felt
like
we
weren't
quite
there
yet
that
it
seemed
like
you
know
this.
The
scope
of
the
project
had
changed
and
I
I
also
expressed
to
rick
some
concerns
about
moving
forward
with
the
session
today,
mostly
from
the
standpoint
of
recognizing
that
you
know,
we
are
an
extremely
capacity
constrained
organization.
I
We
are
fighting
coping.
I
mentioned
to
rick
that
we
were
in
the
process
of
working
through
a
road
map
with
the
council.
This
project
isn't
even
on
our
roadmap.
I
We
have
so
many
covid
related
priorities
and
other
priorities
that
we're
working
through
with
the
council
and
if,
if
we
really
can't
figure
out
a
straightforward
way
here-
and
that's
really
what
we
need
to
do-
a
very
straightforward
way,
we
just
can't
don't
have
the
ability
to
to
put
resources
to
this
kerry
is
extremely
involved
with
eoc
operations
and
her
team
are-
and
so
I
I
thought
we
kind
of
had
an
understanding
rick
on
that,
and
I
am
very
sorry
if
our
reality
is
inconvenient
for
you.
I
I
N
Absolutely
and
thank
you,
city
manager,
sykes.
I
think
it
is
definitely
a
a
very
accurate
description
of
our
conversation.
What
I'm
purely
trying
to
show
is
that
there's
definitely
a
collaboration
and
willingness
to
try
to
make
this
work.
I
understand
that
we
are
all
in
the
stages
of
responding
to
covid
and
the
emergencies
that
are
on
our
backs
currently
and
yes,
we're
hoping
that
we
can
find
a
collaborative
path
together
in
order
to
make
this
work.
H
Thank
you,
rick
good.
After
good
morning,
my
name
is
jeff
provenzano
deputy
director
for
the
city
of
san
jose
and
with
me,
is
amit
matsudi
deputy
director
of
wastewater
management,
I'll
just
do
a
quick,
quick
overview
here.
We've
been
working
with
valley
water,
obviously
for
for
quite
a
while,
quite
a
while
on
coming
to
some
terms,
really
the
complexity,
and
I
want
to
kind
of
get
into
this
and
it
leads
into
our
further
presentation.
H
Water,
obviously,
is
a
responsible
agency
for
supplying
water
supply
and
the
way
the
project
is
moving
forward
is
to
really
come
up
with
a
blended
solution
of
responsibilities
where
we're
both
trying
to
achieve
our
own
individual
goals
of
what
we're
responsible
for
and
trying
to
come
together,
and
that
adds
several
layers
of
complexity
and
we'll
kind
of
several
layers
of
complexity
and
ameet's
presentation
really
kind
of
dive
into
the
wastewater
world
of
what
we
do,
regardless
of
coming
together.
H
What
the
wastewater
world
of
what
he
does
every
day
and
what
they
are
looking
at
into
the
future,
because
when
we
talk
about
blending
facilities
for
joint
purposes,
really
it's
in
a
lot
of
ways.
It's
valley,
water,
entering
to
our
discussion
on
the
wastewater
side
and
everything
that
we're
seeing
into
the
future
and
what
we
need
to
do
to
change
and
adapt
to
continue
to
treat
water
and
get
it
out
into
the
habitat
safely.
H
Here,
back
in
september,
it
was
mentioned
before
council
directed
city
staff
to
establish
a
negotiation
team
to
look
at
two
programs,
both
recycled
water
and
purified
water.
Today,
we
haven't
yet
negotiated
or
talked
about
expanding
the
recycle
water
system
with
valley
water.
We
have
really
just
focused
on
the
purified
water
aspect,
council
also
directed
staff
to
prioritize
solutions.
H
You
can
see
them
there
that
really
looked
at
several
things,
making
sure
that
there's
no
impact
on
the
habitat
making,
sure
there's
no
additional
liabilities
or
adverse
financial
impacts
on
the
our
wastewater
system
or
our
sanitary
system,
of
course,
looking
at
the
nutrients
and
the
pollutants
that
are
in
wastewater
that
are
moving
out
into
the
bay
and
making
sure
that
that
also
doesn't
have
an
adverse
impact
on
the
other
side
of
it,
though,
is
drinking
water
rates
and,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
this
type
of
project
has
to
be
paid
for
by
somebody,
and
that
is
in
a
water
rate
and
so
from
a
staff
perspective
in
council
direction
to
staff.
H
We
want
to
keep
an
eye
on
that
too,
with
any
solution
should
also
consider
what
is
going
to
be
the
end
impact
on
customers
and,
of
course,
for
an
interest
for
everybody,
I
believe,
is
long-term,
viable
water
supplies
and
with
that,
I'm
going
to
pass
it
on
to
a
meet,
and
his
presentation
is
usually
a
little
bit
more
technical
than
we
usually
provide.
R
Thank
you
jeff
honorable
mayor
and
the
board
and
the
council.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
be
here
again.
My
name
is
amit
matsudi,
deputy
director
operation
and
maintenance
for
the
regional
wastewater
facility
just
want
to
give
you
a
quick
overview
of
our
facility.
What
we
do
we're
located
at
the
southernmost
tip
of
the
san
francisco
bay,
we
process
the
wastewater
treat
the
wastewater
from
13
tributary
agencies,
which
includes
san
jose,
santa
clara
milpitas
and
all
the
adjacent
cities.
R
R
Our
water
discharge
is
a
heavily
regulated
under
the
clean
water
act
that
which
gives
the
state
and
the
regional
board
the
authority
to
stand
there
to
standardize
and
put
strict
numeric
limits
on
many
many
constituents
that
goes
into
the
bay
and
we
have
to
monitor
it
monthly
daily,
and
then
they
are
their
strict
performance
requirement
when
we
violate
them.
R
So,
just
to
give
you
an
overview
again
on
on
on
the
valley.
Water
project
proposed
project
is
the
water
purification
and
the
part
that
we
need
to
think
through
more
and
do
do
a
lot
more
investigation
on
what
is
the
impact
is
the
brine.
R
The
brine
is
the
byproduct
of
the
reverse
osmosis
process
and
right
now
the
proposal
is
to
buy,
put
the
put
the
brine
directly
into
our
effluent
and,
as
the
names
of
you
know
suggest,
the
brine
is
what
is
right.
It's
a
concentrated
salt,
but
what
we
are
concerned
about
is
the
nutrient,
which
is
the
inorganic
nitrogen
part
of
the
of
the
salt,
so
which
is
mostly
ammonia,
nitrate
and
nitrite.
R
Why
are
they
so
important
because
they
can
contribute
towards
large
algae
blooms
in
the
bay
in
the
receiving
water?
Also,
it
can
result
in
a
lowering
of
the
dissolved
oxygen
level.
It's
it's
gonna!
It's
like
when
you
see
the
water
turn
green.
It's
not
the
celebratory
scent
saint
patrick's
day
green.
It
is
really
bad
when
it
when
a
water
body
goes
green,
like
that
and
then,
along
with
that,
we
can
also
have
hiv
harmful
algae
bloom,
which
carries
the
toxin
which
can
also
get
into
the
various
aquatic
species.
R
So
now,
historically,
our
bay
has
been
very
resilient,
but
we
don't
know
whether
we
are
at
the
tipping
point
or
whether
we,
what
are
we
going
to
concentration,
is
going
to
increase,
whether
that's
going
to
be
something
you
know,
set
it
to
a
a
level
that
we
don't
want
to
go
to.
R
Most
of
the
nutrient
that
gets
to
the
bay
comes
from
wastewater
treatment
plants
all
around
the
bay
there
are
on
37
all
around
the
bay
and
about
65.
Of
this.
Nutrient
load
is
from
the
wastewater
plants.
20
comes
from
the
delta
agriculture
activities
and
then
rest
from
the
stormwater
runoff.
R
You
know
we
right
now.
Our
agreements
with
the
water
district
is
for
microplastics,
I'm
sorry,
it's
for
recycled
water
and
the
recycled
water
does
not,
you
know,
have
the
same
limits
as
portable
water.
So
what
I
mean
is
there
are
these
constituents
that
are
listed
here,
have
higher
standards
for
portable
water
and
may
have
the
same
similar
standards
for
groundwater
recharge.
So
our
current
technology
that
we
use
at
the
facility
we
cannot
remove
microplastics
or
any
of
these
thousands
of
emerging
contaminants
or
pfas
and
foa
or
any
of
the
ndma.
With
our
current
treatment
technology.
R
I've
also
listed
a
you
know
graph
here.
It's
it's
a
data,
intense
graph,
but
what
I
wanted
to
show
you
is
the
seasonal
variability
of
the
plant
water
that
we
get
for
the
wastewater
we
get
and
what
happens
in
the
summer.
You
see
the
the
dips
that
we
get
it's
in
the
summer
because
of
lower
flow,
and
then
that's
when
we
have
higher
water
demand.
R
What
that
means
is
the
concentration
of
the
constituents
that
are
going
out
into
the
bay
is
going
to
be
the
highest
one,
and
if
we
add
on
top
of
that
more
expansion
of
the
recycled
water,
we
have
to
think
about
what
the
concentration
is
going
to
do
to
the
receiving
water
body.
One
of
the
things
that
we
are
actually
right
now
our
permit
says
whatever
we
do.
Our
treatment
process
cannot
contribute
towards
lowering
the
do
the
dissolved
oxygen
level
less
than
five
milligrams
per
liter
in
the
receiving
water.
So
what's
the
concentration
gonna?
R
Do
we
really
need
to
look
into
the
details
and
study?
Another
thing
I
want
to
point
out
that
this
is
like.
I
took
a
10-year
data
to
show
the
nutrient
loading
into
the
coming
into
the
our
facility
and
going
out
it
has.
You
know,
varied
over
the
years
and
our
current
watershed
permit
is
looking
at
putting
a
load
cap
right
around
6100
and
that's
what
it's
going
to
stop.
R
So
you
know,
as
the
population
grows,
we
still
have
to
you
know,
have
an
improved
improvement,
improve
and
invest
on
treatment
technologies,
so
we
can
remove
and
stay
at
the
6100
kg
per
day.
Lastly,
I'll
show
one
last
graph
to
illustrate
what
that
what
the
concentration
could
be.
You
could
see.
This
is
a
diagram
with
our
average
final
effluent
flow
and
we
have
the
tin
level,
which
is
the
total,
inorganic
nitrogen,
and
that
goes
higher
when
the
flow
is
lower.
R
So
that
will
happen
to
all
the
constituents
and
what
is
that
going
to
do
to
that?
The
water
environment
downstream
is
what
we
need
to
evaluate
now
if
and
then
agree
on
the
terms
and
who's
going
to
remove
what
constituents
and
what
they
agreed.
These
are
a
lot
of
details.
R
Staff
I
want
to
last
thing
I
want
to
mention
his
staff
is-
has
to
be
heavily
engaged
on
this
effort
from
wastewater
side
and
we
need
to
work
together
and
we
did
to
work
together
at
the
first
phase
of
the
when
the
the
silicon
valley,
water
purification
project
was
first
at
the
first
phase
and
our
subject
matter.
Experts
has
to
engage
in
this
technical
discussion,
forums
and
design,
there's
a
lot
of
interconnection
between
the
two
projects,
but
right
now
we're
also
in
the
middle
of
the
1.5
billion
dollar
reconstruction
and
rebuild
up
the
facility.
R
As
you
can
see,
I'm
not
going
to
go
over
all
these
projects.
These
are
snapshots
of
all
the
projects
that
are
going
on
in
the
facility
what
it
means
for
us.
We
give
you
an
example
that
is
120
people
needed
every
day
to
run
this
facility.
Then
now
we
have
upwards
of
300
to
400
construction
people
working
every
day.
We
almost
at
that
peak
and
of
construction
activities,
and
it's
expected
to
continue
next
at
least
two
three
years,
and
then
you
know
what
it
does
means.
So
we
are.
We
are
heavily
constrained
staff
level.
R
You
know
on
our
subject
matter
expert
to
collaborate,
but
we
I
am,
I
am
conservative
when
it
comes
to
you
know,
totally
understand
you
know,
that's
just
being
a
wastewater
man
being
the
responsible
for
wastewater,
but
I
like
to
be
on
the
details
and
like
to
understand
the
details
and
have
to
be
on
a
head
on
on
a
very
confident
level
that
where
we
need
to
go
from
here
to
be
able
to
successfully
deliver
the
project
and
for
ensure
the
public
safety
and
ensures
the
health
of
the
brain.
H
Thank
you,
amit
and
I'll.
Do
a
brief
summary
then,
of
what
I
heard
from
the
meet.
Maybe
a
very
high
level.
It's
extraordinarily
complex.
What
we're
going
through
right
now
on
both
on
the
wastewater
side
on
our
capital
program,
but
all
the
criteria
that
we're
continuing
to
monitor
out
into
the
future,
to
ensure
that
we're
doing
the
job
that
we're
being
held
responsible
for
and
as
we
continue
negotiations
and
discussions
with
valley
water.
H
That's
going
to
be
there
in
the
forefront
of
our
mind
of
how
can
we
blend
their
responsibility
of
what
they
want
to
achieve
with
our
responsibility
and
what
we
have
to
do
here
you
can
see
here.
We
have
to
really
fully
evaluate
any
potential
impacts
to
the
rwf
effluent
water
quality.
We
really
have
to
do
a
long
term
operational
analysis.
H
What
could
be
our
potential
constraints
and
how
can
we
set
up
an
agreement
with
valley
water
that
could
that
would
not
restrain
us
or
restrict
us
in
adapting
to
changes
for
us
and
treating
wastewater?
Of
course,
we
also
want
to
keep
an
eye
on
long-term
impacts,
recycle
water
supply
and
quality.
H
Most
of
you
know
bond
status.
We
have
100
public
bonds
there
at
the
wastewater
treatment
plant
to
do
all
of
that
capital
work,
and
it's
really
important
for
us
that
we
also
keep
an
eye
on
the
legal
and
the
legal
analysis
of
private
activity
to
see
if
there
is
a
risk
to
our
bond
status
and
finally,
staff
resources.
H
That
was
mentioned
a
little
bit
before
to
go
through
all
this
is
a
significant
effort
and
does
require
subject
matter
experts,
that's
a
term
that
we
use,
especially
at
the
regional
wastewater
facility.
We
need
people
there
in
the
room
that
understand
that
the
impacts
of
doing
a
blended
responsibility
or
a
blended
type
project
and
what
the
true
impacts
could
be
all
around.
Thank
you.
The
next
one.
H
R
Slide,
I
am
on
the
next
slide.
You
cannot
see
it.
H
Okay,
sorry,
so
next
steps
there
are
several
agreements
that
are.
We
have
to
go
through.
Obviously,
you've
heard
about
the
palo
alto
mountain
view,
cell
agreement,
that's
one
that
is
an
option
of
water
rights,
basically
to
valley
water,
for
financial
compensation.
That
type
of
agreement
would
need
to
be
negotiated.
H
After
that
there
is
a
long-term
ground
lease
agreement
for
the
expanded
facility.
Then
we
need
to
negotiate
per
valley
waters
request
and
I
believe
we
said
yeah
we'll
talk
about
it,
but
to
negotiate
revisions
to
the
2010
integration
agreement
and
the
reason
why
we
call
it
an
integration
agreement.
This
is
for
their
existing
facility.
It's
because
that
facility
is
integrated
in
with
our
operations
like
we're
talking
about
an
expanded
facility.
H
So
we
need
to
negotiate
revisions
to
that
negotiation
and
negotiate
revisions
or
revise
our
existing
operations
agreement
that
agreement
kind
of
details
on
a
day-to-day
basis.
How
operators
of
one
facility
will
coordinate
and
collaborate
with
operators
of
the
other
facility
and
as
we
look
at
an
expanded
purified
water
facility,
that
operations
agreement
would
have
to
be
revised
or
altered.
H
H
Of
course,
we
also
have
interagency
collaboration,
there's
a
city
of
santa
clara,
which
is
a
co-owner
of
the
regional
wastewater
facility.
Their
consideration
and
approval
will
also
have
to
be
considered
and
there's
a
treatment
plan
advisory
committee,
so
any
potential
agreements
and
analysis
that
we
do
should
be
brought
back
to
that
committee
for
their
consideration
and
with
that
staff
recommends
that
council
accept
this
report
and
the
staff
will
return
to
council
in
the
next
few
weeks
with
a
recommendation.
N
Much
mr
chair,
I'd
like
to
summarize
staff's
recommendations
for
the
board.
So
in
order
to
summarize
what
we're
asking
from
valley
water,
we're
respectfully
requesting
at
the
city
council,
direct
staff,
negotiate
with
valley
water
to
come
to
an
agreement
and
help
us
meet
our
timeline
in
the
interests
of
our
residents
and
integrated
purification
facility
in
san
jose.
N
It's
especially
important
right
now,
as
ear
marks
are
back
in
congress
and
under
consideration
as
we're
immediately
talking
as
well
as
drought
is
knocking
on
our
door,
we're
committed
with
working
with
the
city
and
its
partners
to
resolve
any
remaining
issues
from
the
staff
presentation.
I
did
hear
a
number
of
concerns
in
the
presentation,
many
of
which
I'm
fairly
certain
don't
apply
to
the
project,
but
instead
of
concerns
of
the
wastewater
plant,
but
regardless
we
will
work
together
to
solve
the
mutual
concerns.
N
That
said,
we've
proven
that
our
approach
to
managing
discharges
from
the
purification
facility
do
not
impact
the
treatment
plan's
permit
compliance,
and
we
do
know
that
there
is
a
path
forward
on
this
issue.
If
you,
as
you've
heard
the
council
would
realize
significant
financial,
environmental
and
community
benefits
to
have
this
project
occur
in
the
city
of
san
jose,
we
believe
expanding
the
facility
in
san
jose
is
a
win-win
for
both
our
agencies,
the
public
and
the
environment.
Chair
estramera.
B
C
Yes,
mr
chair,
I
have
two
members
of
the
public
that
have
requested
to
speak.
First,
one
is
robert
reese.
L
Thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
speak,
I'm
a
resident
of
the
villages
in
evergreen
district
8,
and
I
want
to
let
you
know
this
collaboration,
and
this
joint
meeting
really
helps
give
me
confidence
in
the
functioning
of
our
local
governmental
agencies.
It
seems
like
you
had
met
within
the
last
year.
Maybe
not,
but
this
is
a
good
thing.
L
I'm
hope
I'm
wrong,
but
if
they
were
in
the
negotiations,
I
would
like
to
see
parity
as
a
san
jose
resident
of
a
responsible
regional
city
with
a
challenged
tax
base,
there's
just
something
that
seems
wrong
about
attacks,
rich
city
that
hasn't
been
as
responsible
as
san
jose
as
a
housing
hero
and
doing
the
right
things
recently
would
get
a
better
deal,
keep
up
the
good
work
and
keep
collaborating.
B
B
L
Okay,
I'm
sorry
about
13
years
ago
I
attended
a
water
crisis
presentation
at
stanford,
and
the
alarm
was
said
as
to
a
crisis
like
we
are
heading
to
it
right
now.
I
believe
that
we
are
reacting
instead
of
acting.
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mayor
licardo,.
A
Thank
you
chair.
I
appreciate
the
recommendation
of
mr
calendar.
It
is
the
case
that
the
council's
already
directed
back
in
september
that
staff
moved
forward
together
collaboratively
with
the
water
district.
I'm
confident
we
are
going
to
get
to
a
collaborative
solution
appreciate
also
the
memorandum
of
vice
mayor
jones.
A
I
would
just
suggest
I
think
those
are
all
good
recommendations,
but
they
should
come
back
to
council.
I
think
we
need
an
opportunity
to
be
able
to
fully
vet
all
these
issues.
I
think
there's
some
legal
issues
clearly
in
closed
session.
We
need
to
understand
regarding
the
private
activity
bonds
and
then
in
the
open
session,
where
we
can
have
more,
I
think,
a
more
in-depth
conversation,
so
I
think
there's
a
good
idea
for
us
to
come
back
in
two
weeks
with
council
and
we
can
hopefully
get
this
all
resolved.
M
First
of
all,
I
want
to
say
about
a
year
and
a
half
ago,
rick
calendar
approached
me
about
having
a
conversation
of
how
we
can
collaborate
with
the
water
district
to
build
out
a
water
purification
facility.
It
was
a
great
first
discussion.
Tony
was
there
as
well
as
the
members
of
our
staff,
and
it
really
started
out
on
a
positive
footing,
and
I
want
to
commend
our
staff,
carrie
and
and
jeff
for
being
willing
to
engage.
M
M
You've
been
very
open
to
moving
the
process
forward,
so
we're
at
a
point
where
it
needs
to
be
some
type
of
disconnect
in
terms
of
the
process
and
moving
forward
and
how
we
can
work
together
to
to
create
a
win-win
for
both
the
water
district
and
in
the
city.
I
propose
in
my
memo
a
path
forward
and
a
structure
to
continue
to
move
forward
because
initially
notice
is
straightforward
and
initially
the
focus
was
going
to
be
on
getting
an
agreement
that
was
similar
to
the
palo
alto
mountain
view.
M
M
So
I'm
going
to
defer
my
memo
and
bring
it
back
to
our
council,
but
I
just
want
to
say
that
I
want
to
work
together
with
with
the
water
district
and
with
your
team
to
create
a
path
forward
where
we
can
truly
have
a
win-win,
but
we
gotta
work
through
these.
These
complicated
issues
and
it's
gonna
take
time.
It's
gonna
take
resources,
but
I'm
confident
that
we
can
make
it
happen,
but
we
have
to
be
willing
to
roll
up
our
sleeves,
get
into
a
room
and
work
things
out.
So
that's
all.
I
have
to
say.
G
Thank
you
so
just
for
clarification,
it
sounds
like
vice
mayor
you're,
going
to
defer
your
memo
and
are
we
going
to
meet
in
two
weeks
once
again,
is
that
what
I'm
hearing
you
say.
G
Okay,
all
right!
Well,
you
know
I,
I
guess
I'll,
maybe
that's
why
some
of
my
colleagues
were
not
raising
our
hands,
because
this
is
a
deferred
conversation,
but
before
we
we
go.
G
I
just
want
to
make
sure,
because
I
I
have
a
lot
of
residents
whose
rate
water
rates
would
increase
and
you've
heard
some
of
them
call
today,
but
have
received
messages
and
letters
of
concern,
and-
and
you
know,
we
always
want
to
be
responsive
to
our
residents,
and
you
know
that
we
we
rely
on
valley
water
for
rates,
so
everything
has
a
consequence
right.
G
The
projects
that
we
invest
in
the
the
increases
that
we
have
over
the
years
earlier
this
week,
I
asked
my
council
colleagues
to
help
cover
some
of
the
the
the
bad
debt
that
they
referred
to
bad
debt,
because
there
is
a
lot
of
rate
payers
in
san
jose
who
just
couldn't
make
their
water
bill,
and
so
that
leaves
a
hole
for
us
to
to
have
to
fill
and
and
when
that
happens,
that
means
that
our
library,
services
may
be
impacted
or
community
centers
are
impacted.
G
These
are
all
you
know,
community-facing
services,
that
when
things
are
very
difficult,
people
look
to
us
to
solve
for
them
or
they
rely
on
us
one
because
they
trust
our
services.
And
I
think
I
I
want
to
believe
that
all
of
our
enrichment
activities
and
classes
and
anything
that
we
offer
that
is
cost
recovery
is
of
great
quality
and
investment
for
our
community
and
at
a
very
affordable
rate.
And
so
rates
are
always
on
my
mind.
G
Sometimes
we
we
even
provide
scholarships
up
to
75
percent
coverage
on
a
lot
of
these
classes,
and
so
that
we
can
give
families
a
break,
and
so
this
is
where
I
think
we
are-
or
at
least
I
am-
and
my
residents
are
concerned-
is
we
we
need
to
give
them
a
break,
and
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we
prioritize
the
type
of
projects
that
make
sense
for
the
time
now,
maybe
last
year
when,
when
you
all
had
a
a
previous
conversation
or
or
the
year
before,
this
might
have
made
sense.
G
I
I
still
want
to
learn
more
about
the
difference
between
the
palo
alto
project
and
and
the
projects
that
that's
being
proposed
to
us,
because
I
did
hear
rick.
You
mentioned
that
in
your
comments.
I
think
it
was
you
I
don't
I
I
we've
had
a
lot
of.
G
I
apologize
if
I
don't
remember
exactly
who,
but
I
thought
it
was
you
and
so
that
that
really
interested
me
when
you
mentioned
that
or
whoever
mentioned
that-
and
so
I
guess
one
of
the
things
that
I'd
like
to
just
walk
away
with
today
is
is
learn
a
little
bit
more
about
that,
so
that
when
we
come
back
in
two
weeks,
I
can
have
some
clarification.
G
I
think
it's
important
for
all
of
our
council
colleagues
for
myself
to
hear
about
that
and
to
hear
about
you
know
what
what
does
it
cost
to
us?
How
does
that
impact
us
and
consequentially?
How
does
that
impact
our
residents,
and
so
I
don't
know
if
maybe
carrie
or
jeff
or
or
anyone
on
the
valley
water
can
tell
us
a
little
bit
more
about
the
difference
in
terms
of
the
projects.
D
Thank
you
councilmember.
I
can
start
you
know.
As
we
mentioned,
the
the
palo
alto
deal
was
a
bit
narrower
and
and
and
sort
of
exchanged
money
and
then
started
working
on
additional
additional
points
of
negotiation
in
terms.
D
As
kirsten
mentioned
in
in
her
presentation,
the
palo
alto
deal,
palo
alto
was
compensated,
I
think
here's
about
16
million
and
then
and
then
they
moved
into
the
discussions
about
land
lease
negotiations,
how
brine
would
be
handled
and
if
the
project
would
ever
happen
or
not
so
sort
of
the
my
understanding
of
the
deal
is
it's
a
framework
to
to
begin
negotiations
towards
a
potential
project,
and
so
certainly
that's
what
we
thought
we
were
agreeing
to
do
over
the
last
over
the
last
year
and
then,
as
valley
water.
D
You
know
looked
at
the
project
more
closely:
they
they
wanted
to
also
change
a
bunch
of
other
factors
which
expanded
the
scope
beyond
our
capacity.
It
just
increased
the
complexity,
but
you
know:
we've
been
ready
since
last
february
to
sign
a
deal
just
like
palo,
alto
and
and
happy
to
accept
16
million
dollars
and
then
and
then
move
into
discussing
the
balance
of
the
issues
as
you've
done
in
palo
alto,
which
has
been
happening
over
several
years.
D
So
certainly
wastewater
facilities
as
a
meat
articulated
have
a
lot
of
issues
to
to
investigate
and
we
do
believe
that
the
brine
poses
a
risk
to
the
environment
and
we
need
a
lot
more
information
before
we're
comfortable
accepting
that,
particularly
since
we're
looking
at
a
75-year
deal.
D
So
what
we
want
to
avoid
is
helping
build
a
facility
and
that
then,
when
it's
constructed
we
say
I'm
sorry
it
can't
operate,
because
we
can't
take
your
your
discharge.
So
so
we
don't
want
to
sign
on
something
that
we're
not
comfortable
doing
in
terms
of
how
the
project
impacts
rates.
I
think
I'll,
let
valley
water,
kirsten
or
or
someone
take
take
a
stab
at
that
one
because
I'm
not.
I
don't
really
understand
that
sure.
G
And
carrie
before
you
move
forward,
I
think-
and
I
I
forget
who
it
was
from
valley
water.
I
apologize
there's
a
lot
of
people
on
this
tic-tac-toe
screen,
so
I'm
really
sorry,
but
I
know
that
he
talked
about
the
the
treatment
ecology
and
for
the
body
of
water
who's
going
to
receive
some
of
this.
What
you
call
brine
right,
I
don't
know
what
it
ends
up
being
called
once
it
touches
the
water,
I'm
not
the
you
know,
I'm
not
the
expert,
but
but
because
that,
oh
I
mean
amit.
G
Oh
thank
you.
I
mean
thank
you.
Great
presentation
by
the
way
was
really
breaking
breaking
things
down
to
the
point
that
I
think
I
almost
understand,
so
I
appreciate
it
so
one
of
the
things
that
really
caught
my
ear
was
that
we
didn't
really
know
what
the
impact
would
be
to
that
body
of
water
that
that
receives
the
brine.
And
so
when
do
you
expect
that
kind
of
study
to
be
completed?
G
You
know
and
would
that
study
then
follow
this
negotiation.
For
me,
this
would
be
the
question
that
I
would
ask
not
you
and
me,
because
I
you
know
unless
you
want
to
tell
me,
but
I
I'd
like
to
just
know
you
know
what
what
how
would
that
work?
How
long
would
it
take.
D
So
I
mean
I
mean,
let
me
start
and
then
I'll
hand
it
over
to
you,
so
so,
council
member,
that
would
be
a
study
that
and
we
would
partner
with
valley
water
on
and
obviously
it
would
be,
a
necessary
part
of
of
their
project
and
they've
done
some
work
on
that
and
so
they're,
certainly
not
starting
from
ground
zero.
But
as
nutrient
regulations
change
what's
not
in
in
fully
included
in
their
the
work.
D
They've
done
to
date
is
how
regulations
may
change
how
the
bay
changes,
but
also
how
population
growth
impacts.
What
we
receive
as
a
wastewater
facility,
how
we
might
expand
our
purple
pipe
and
how
that
might
change
the
availability
to
dilute
ro,
concentrate
in
our
effluent
and
and
and
sort
of
a
deeper
look
at
how
that
would
impact
our
treatment
train
going
forward
and
so
maybe
add
a
little
bit
more
science
and
engineering
to
that.
R
Thank
you
carrie,
so
our
bay
has
a
you
know.
It's
it's
a
it's
been
amazingly
resilient
to
nutrient
loading,
the
amount
of
nutrient
that
goes
in
there
today.
If
you
compared
to
any
other
estuaries
in
the
country,
it
is
of
almost
four
to
five
times
more
that
it
receives,
and
it's
probably
it's
a
resilient
because
of
the
geometry
and
the
water
exchange
that
happens.
So
the
stratification
is,
is
what
we
call
is
extremely
low
compared
to
a
lot
of
other
bodies.
R
If
this
happened
in
the
specky
bay,
we
would
be
having
impairment
and
the
algae
bloom
every
day,
so
we
may
be
on
a
delicate.
You
know
scenario.
We
don't
know
whether
that
base
capacity
has
peaked
and
with
the
concentration
as
going
down,
the
dilution
might
not
happen
in
the
lower
south
bay
because
lower
south
bay
is
going
to
hold
the
water
it's
going
to
have
the
longer
time
water
and
then,
as
the
salt
marsh.
Also,
you
know
going
to
keep
taking
it.
What
they're
going
to
contribute
back?
R
It's
a
very
complex
chemistry,
but
we
can
figure
it
out.
It's
just
not
a
quick.
You
know
we
cannot
do
it
in
three
months.
You
know
we
need
to
do.
We
require
a
lot
of
monitoring
a
lot
of
numerical
modeling
and
then
you
know
projecting
also
this
as
carries
mentioned
75-year
agreement.
We
need
to
make
sure
we
need
to
be
able
to
also
adapt
to
you
know.
You
know
the
increasing
load
as
population
grows
and
changing
the
regulations
so.
R
G
G
Got
it
listen?
I
think
I
have
my
own
little
example
of
a
nutrient
rich
body
of
water
and
that's
lake
cunningham.
Where
maybe
about
I
don't
know
15
years
ago.
I
I
learned
how
to
kayak
on
that
body
of
water,
and
now
it's
so
nutrient
rich
because
it
doesn't
have
an
outflow
that
we
don't
even
want
people
touching
it
right,
there's
a
lot
of
ducks
and
yeah.
G
Well,
you
know
you,
you
know
this
better
than
than
I
do
I
mean,
and
so
I
I
can
completely
understand
when
there's
too
too
much
of
an
overflow
and
and
had
we
had,
we
maybe
studied
or
figured
or
thought
of
ahead
in
terms
of
having
a
necessary
outflow
or
planning
ahead
to
to
ensure
that
that
body
of
water,
I'm
talking
about
lake
cunningham,
didn't
have
reach
this
nutrient
rich
and
then
a
lot
of
our
community
members
who
don't
have
the
opportunity
to
travel
outside
of
san
jose,
for
whatever
mobility
issues
could
use
lake
cunningham
in
their
own
backyard.
G
But
now
I've
gone
down,
another
rabbit
hole,
but
I
I
see
the
parallel
in
this
right
because
of
course
we're
talking
a
much
larger
body
of
water,
but
I
would
be
really
interested
in
learning
a
little
bit
more
about
that
lower
south
bay
and
that
impact
that
you
talked
about,
and
maybe
we
can
take
this
offline,
I
think
for
now.
I
I
just
just
like
to
I
think,
go
back
to
carrie.
I
interrupted
this
just
a
little
bit.
G
I
had
asked
you
to
to
take
me
down
in
terms
of
delineating
the
difference
between
the
projects
and
then
I
I
think
I
heard
you
say
there
was
some
upfront
costs
or
investment
from
valley
water,
about
16
million
to
palo
alto,
and
so
my
biggest
question
is
going
to
be
what
what's
what's
our
contract
or
what?
What
is?
What
are
they
proposing
to
us?.
D
Councilmember.
Thank
you.
We
we're
not
at
the
point
that
there's
a
an
offer
in
front
of
us
and
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
details
to
work
out
so
part
of
the
question
now.
Is
you
know
if
belly
water
is
open
to
doing
the
palo
alto
type
deal
we're
ready
to
go?
We've
been
ready
to
go
for
13
months,
oh
if
they
want
a
bigger
project
that
includes
amending
the
the
silicon
valley,
advanced
water
purification
center
and
adding
on
to
that
and
changing
that
contract.
D
But
certainly,
we've
been
ready
to
go
with
a
palo
alto
type
deal.
We,
we
think
the
volume
of
water
we
can
handle,
but
we
can't
handle
an
unlimited
amount
and
so
and-
and
we
likely
can't
handle
it
forever,
but
as
in
palo
alto.
Those
are
things
we
would
talk
about.
Once
we
reach
agreement,
we
would
talk
about
land.
Lease
ro
concentrates
et
cetera,
but
we're
ready
to
sign
a
palo
alto
deal
and
but
anything
more
complex
than
that
is
more
complex
than
that.
G
Okay,
well,
maybe
that's
the
first
step
and
a
step
in
the
right
direction
in
terms
of
negotiations,
I'm
not
gonna
say
that
that's
where
we're
gonna
vote
today,
because
obviously
we're
deferring
all
of
our
votes
or
I
think
the
majority
of
the
the
content
here
in
terms
of
direction.
G
I
think
accepting
a
report
is
probably
appropriate.
Is
there
anything
else
that
I
think
carrie
you
had
you'd
finished,
so
I
I
don't
know
if
there's
anything
that
that
anybody
else
would
like
to
add
to
the
chair,
counselor
or
arenas.
N
I
would
like
to
ask
for
kirsten
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
our
views.
I
think
we
might
see.
Thank
you.
Q
Thank
you.
I
think
there
were
two
issues
I'm
going
to
respond
to.
One
is
the
sort
of
deal
components.
So,
as
I
mentioned
in
my
presentation,
we
have
supported
san
jose
and
santa
clara
and
the
its
partners
with
over
65
million
already
so
with
palo
alto.
We
only
took
our
first
step
in
2019
and
we
are
offering
we
are
modeling,
our
financial.
Q
You
know,
proposal
to
model
after
the
paul
alter
agreement,
but
because
we
already
have
an
existing
facility
and
the
impact
to
ratepayers
would
be
so
much
lower
by
expanding
it.
That's
why
we're
asking
for
an
expanded
facility
to
be
part
of
this
and
in
terms
of
the
ro,
concentrate.
Q
As
I
said
before
it,
we
are
not
adding
anything
to
the
water,
it
is
just
more
highly
concentrated
and
our
regulators
have
been
extremely
supportive,
there's
actually
a
provision
in
the
basin
plan,
which
is
our
regulatory
document
for
water
quality
regulations
that
allows
increasing
concentration
limits
if
facilities
engage
in
significant
water
reclamation
or
water
reuse
at
their
facility,
so
they're
very
willing
to
work
with
us
because
they
know
that
recycled
water
use
is
the
future
and
we
have
also
modeled
many.
G
Okay,
got
it
and
it
when
you
say
it's
not
more
water
but
more
highly,
concentrated
water
and
and
we
I'm
guessing.
We
have
some
some
level
or
study
that
would
tell
us
how
that
would
impact
the
lower
south
bay
or
whatever
receiving
body
of
water.
Q
What
we've
been
modeling
is
whether
the
treatment
plan
can
still
meet
its
permit
limit.
Q
The
permit
limits
are
based
on
protecting
the
lower
south
bay,
and
so
if
our
modeling
shows
that
the
permit
limits
can
still
be
met,
then
it
is
protective
of
the
south
bay
and
we've
successfully
used
this
approach
over
the
you
know,
since
2014
for
the
current
facility
and
we're
basically
proposing
to
continue
the
same
and
the
palo
alto
agreement
also
included
discharge
blended
with
the
wastewater
as
the
preferable
option,
and
that
palo
alto
would
work
with
us
to
make
that
acceptable
to
the
regulators.
G
Okay,
I
did
hear
you
say
that,
because
you
would
be
expanding
the
facility,
this
might
not
impact
rate
payers
in
the
same
way.
Is
that
a
commitment
you're,
you
know
you're
willing
to
make
in
terms
of
having
it
within
our
negotiations
that
it
would
not
create
the
kind
of
impact
that
I
think
I
have
seen
from
tpack
meetings
that
back
in
my
day,.
Q
Yeah,
it's
a
it's
a
half,
a
billion
dollar
estimate
in
terms
of
the
cost
of
this
facility,
but
we
think
that
is
at
least
50
million
dollars
lower.
If
we
go
with
the
expanded
facility
on
the
site,
we
already.
G
Mm-Hmm,
I
know
that
there
thank
you
so
much
kirsten.
I
know
there
was
an
alternative
and
I'm
trying
to
read
my
notes,
because
I
was
doing
it
really
quickly,
but
I
think
carrie
you
were
talking
about
the
purple
pipeline
and
is:
is
that
an
alternative
to
to
having
a
larger
project
like
this
and
an
investment
this
way
and
maybe
getting
at
the
same
goal?.
D
Certainly,
valley
water
is
the
water
supply
expert,
but
but
I
will
say
that
the
city
of
san
jose
and
our
regional
wastewater
facility
are
recycled
water
experts
and
we
run
the
largest
recycled
water
system
in
the
county,
producing
jeff
75
80
percent
of
the
recycled
water
in
our
county.
So
so
we
certainly
demonstrated
our
capabilities
in
that
area
and
we
would
like
to
expand
our
purple
pipe
and
we
do
have.
D
We
do
intend
to
expand
that
purple
pipe
and
I
think
you
know
that's
something
that
also
impacts
the
ability
to
dilute
the
brine
from
from
this
potential
new
project.
And
then
I'm
gonna
ask
jeff
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
kind
of
how
much
money
you
would
need
to
to
produce
the
same
amount
of
recycled
water.
But
but
I
also
do
want
to
clarify
that
from
a
wastewater
standpoint,
highly
concentrated
is
different.
D
So
it's
not
the
same
to
us
and
and
we're
forecasting
and
looking
at
the
regulations
to
discharge
in
the
bay
are
changing.
So
we're
trying
to
ensure
that
we
can
meet
our
permit
in
the
long
term
and
wastewater
is
our
priority
and,
as
I
said,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
if
valley
water
builds
this
facility,
it
is
able
to
run
for
75
years.
But
wastewater
is
our
priority.
D
And
so,
if
it
looks
like
the
brine
discharge
is
impacting
our
ability
to
treat
wastewater
and
we
would
be
put
in
a
position
to
turn
it
off
and
that's
not
really
not
what
we
want
to
do.
What
we
have
shared
is
a
more
expeditious
approach
for
valley.
Water
would
be
for
them
to
get
their
own
discharge
permit
for
this
facility.
D
Then
they
would
have
total
control
over
it
and
they
could
handle
the
impact
to
the
bay
caused
by
their
facility
on
their
own
and
certainly
that's
a
more
expensive
option,
but
it
would
give
it
would
give
valley
water
control
and-
and
it
would
take
the
regulatory
liability
off
the
wastewater
facility.
So
jeff
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
cost
of
expanding
purple,
pipe
and
and
the
options.
As
you
see
it,.
H
All
right,
great
thanks,
carrie
yeah
back
in
2014
valley,
water
and
city
of
san
jose,
partnered
on
a
master
planning
process
for
recycled
water
and
purified
water.
That
study
that
we
jointly
worked
on
identified
that
we
could
expand
the
recycle
water
system
or
back
then
the
estimate
was
around
250
million
and
that
would
gain
or
add
about
10
000,
acre
feet
of
recycled
water,
additional
recycled
water
usage
in
san
jose
and
the
tributary
agencies.
H
Since
that
time,
valley,
water
has
done
a
lot
of
great
work
on
their
county-wide
water,
reuse,
master
plan
and
they've
done
a
lot
of
work
on
modeling
on
how
the
cycle
water
expansion
could
work
both
in
san
jose
santa
clara,
but
also
in
the
northern
part
of
santa
clara
county,
and
so
they
did
have
done
some
significant
work
on
looking
at
what
that
might
look
like,
but,
as
I
mentioned
before,
council
direction
was
to
negotiate
with
valley
water
on
the
expansion
of
recycled
water,
and
we
haven't
yet
had
that
opportunity.
H
We've
been
primarily
focused
on
the
purified
water
aspect
of
that
direction,
but
we
do
look
forward
to
picking
back
up
negotiations
from
a
recycle
water
standpoint
to
see
how
we
can
jointly
work
together
to
utilize
this
type
of
water
supply,
which
is
non-potable
and
it
would
be
used
for
non-potable
uses
parks,
mainly
park
schools
and
those
types
of
uses.
H
I'd
also
add,
too,
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
discussion
today
on
nutrients
and
its
effect
on
the
bay
when
you
take
recycled
water
and
put
it
on
parks
it
it
eliminates
that
that
future
impact
that
we've
been
talking
about
for
the
environment.
So
we
are
interested
absolutely
in
in
continuing
conversations
on
recycled
water
and
see
it
as
a
possibility
of
both
adding
additional
water
supply,
which
is
which
isn't
a
joint
interest.
I
think,
to
everybody,
add
the
benefit
to
the
community
and
schools
and
developments.
H
G
Thank
you.
Thank
you
jeff,
although
I
do
wonder
what
would
it
do
to
our
our
grass
in
the
parks?
I
don't
know
what
it
would
do,
but.
G
Sure
I
I
appreciate
the
time
I
think
that
I
I
have
seen
and
and
heard
quite
a
bit-
and
I
think,
there's
some
alternatives
here
in
terms
of
if
we
want
to
expand
or
increase
the
amount
of
water
and
and
I'd
love
to
see
both
of
these
options
explored
recycled
water
in
the
same
way
that
we're
pursuing
the
the
the
purified
water
route.
So
thank
you
so
much.
B
Thank
you
vice
chair,
and
then
I
have
the
mayor
after
that
and
a
few
other
council
votes.
K
Thank
you,
chair
yeah.
I
I
want
to
agree
somewhat
with
what
councilwoman
uranus
is
saying.
I
don't
understand
the
difference
between
where
this
is
in
the
palo
alto
project.
The
palo
alto
project
is
a
fully
baked
project
with
huge,
definitive
agreements.
K
They've
been
down
the
regulatory
pathway
in
brine
discharge
and
environmental
issues,
in
fact
where
they
are
in
the
bay,
is
probably
more
sensitive
and
they
have
the
same
complexity
of
tributary
and
it's
even
more
complicated
tributary
agencies
there,
because
they
have
east
palo
alto,
which
is
out
of
the
county
and
they
had
stanford,
which
is
a
private
entity.
They
vetted
all
these
issues,
so
I
think,
what's
happening
by
more
and
more
study
we're
putting
our
citizens
at
risk
during
a
drought.
K
We're
not
employing
our
folks,
because
this
project
has
a
project
labor
agreement
built
into
it,
and
it
seems
if
staff
doesn't
want
to
do
this
project.
Let's
not
do
this
project,
but
I
don't
understand
why
we
can't
complete
this
using
the
same
template
because
they've
been
over
the
regulatory
and
the
mps
permits
and
everything
like
that
and
they're
pretty
green
city
themselves.
So
I
mean:
if
people
don't
want
to
do
it,
let's
not
do
it.
I
mean
we
all
have
better
things.
K
We
could
use
our
time
in
other
ways,
but
we
all
like
to
think
our
cities
are
different,
but
here's
a
set
of
cities
who've
extensively
vetted
and
produced
all
the
paperwork
and
have
signed
a
deal
and
are
ready
to
get
their
16
million
dollars.
So
they
can
take
the
recycled
water
and
turn
it
in
the
quality
that
you
can
use
in
redwood,
trees
and
cooling
towers
in
mountain
view
and
other
uses
and
generate
revenue
because
they're
selling
their
recycled
water.
K
So
that's
that's
my
comment
number
one
and
number
two
with
respect
to
councilwoman's
another
comment
of
councilwoman
uranus
and
how
people
are
hurting
with
water
rates
and
not
being
able
to
pay.
K
We
actually
proposed
to
the
city
on
september
of
2014
2020
to
the
mayor
and
the
city
managers,
a
retail
loan
program
that
I
sent
to
our
clerk
and
I
sent
earlier
to
council
person
mayhem
that
we
did
not
get
a
response
to
to
be
able
to
help
folks
out,
in
addition
to
whatever
the
city
could
do
ourselves
with
the
long-term
loan
program
with
forgiveness.
K
A
Thank
you
and
I
don't
actually
believe
I've
ever
seen
the
document
that
christian
creme
is
referring
to,
but
you
have
my
cell
phone
number,
so
just
text
me
and
call
me
and
be
happy
to
talk,
love
to
look
at
it.
A
A
It
serves
not
just
our
city
but
also
our
partner
city,
santa
clara
and
many
tributary
cities
as
well,
and
so
I
guess
you
know
I
have
been
a
strong
advocate
for
this
project
by
the
way,
I
think
many
in
the
water
just
remember
back
in
in
2015
when
I
came
into
office
and
we
gathered
everybody
up
over
at
the
advanced
water
purification
plant,
so
we
could
drink
the
water.
A
I
guess
now
that
I'm
learning
that
we
didn't
purify
all
the
the
the
micro
plastics
now
I'm
having
second
thoughts,
but
anyway
we
drank
it
and
we
stood
together
to
say
this
is
something
we
wanted
to
do,
and
I
agreed
with
that
and
and
we
all
wanted
to
do
it,
and
I
you
know,
I
still
have
the
old
water,
district,
strategic
and
master
planning
report
and
we
went
to
sacramento
and
lobbied
for
money,
and
this
is
something
we
all
want
to
do,
but,
but
even
in
that
master
trip
plan
report,
I
just
happened
to
pull
it
up
and
I
saw
on
page
63.
A
We
were
very
clear
about
the
brine
issue
in
which
we
said
the
city.
This
is
the
water
districts
report.
The
cities
indicate
they
would
not
support
large,
just
charged
quantities
of
concentrate
into
its
collection
system
or
directly
into
the
recycled
water
facility.
So
this
has
been
a
long-standing
issue.
We
all
recognize
that
I
guess
the
question
I
have
is:
if
the
water
isn't
willing
to
get
its
own
permit
is,
is
the
water
is
valley,
water,
willing
or
interested
to
indemnify
the
cities
of
san
jose
and
santa
clara?
D
Eric
it
has
been,
it
has
been
discussed
and-
and
we
haven't
been
able
to
reach
an
agreement
where
valley
water
is
comfortable.
Sharing
that
responsibility.
Part
of
the
challenge
is,
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
go
into
wastewater
and
and
sort
of,
but
we
have
talked
about
it.
We
have
talked
about
cost
sharing
it,
but
we
haven't
been
able
to
reach
agreement
on
it.
S
A
Yeah
look:
I
appreciate
their
different
views
about
whether
this
is
going
to
violate
discharge,
permit
requirements
or
not,
and
I
guess
we
have
a
challenge,
because
we
have
a
bit
of
a
dynamic
situation
with
regulatory
authorities
apparently
interested
in
moving
the
bar,
and
if
that
happens,
obviously
that
creates
greater
constraints
for
us,
but
we
have
a
different
set
of
responsibilities
in
palo
alto,
we're
serving
many
many
more
people
with
a
facility,
that's
undergoing
a
1.4
billion
dollar
retrofit
and
we
are
trying
to
do
the
best
we
can
to
ensure
that
we
are
also
good
stewards
of
the
environment
and
what
we
do
with
the
largest
facility
in
the
west
coast
is
going
to
have
very
significant
impacts
in
the
bay,
and
I
think
it
is
absolutely
worth
our
effort
to
make
sure
we're
doing
no
harm.
A
So
anyway,
I
look
forward
to
to
working
through
these
issues.
I
think
we
can
work
through
them,
but
we've
got
to
at
least
acknowledge
the
fact
that
these
issues
are
very
real
and
they
can't
simply
be
overlooked.
C
B
T
So
so
the
I
I
just
have
a
few
comments,
but
first
I
have
a
question
for,
and
this
is
for,
our
city
manager
dave,
sykes
dave.
You
know
the
this
direction
to
negotiate
with
valley
water
was
given
in
september.
Correct.
I
think
it's
the
memo
of
september.
I
don't
have
it
in
front
of
me,
but
in
september
2020.
Sometimes
so.
I'm
curious.
T
You
know,
as
it
relates
to
some
of
what
we
recently
went
through
at
the
city
as
it
relates
to
priority
setting
and
things
of
that
nature.
How
how
do
you
as
a?
How
do
we
as
a
city
sort
of
prioritize
this,
given
that
the
direction
was
given
september
2020,
but
we
just
recently
went
through
the
different
priority
setting
process.
I
Yeah,
well
thanks
councilmember
for
the
question
you
know,
I
think
you
know
the
the
priority
setting
process
and
the
roadmap
process
that
we
just
went
through,
as
you
know,
really
focused
on
on
our
enterprise
priorities.
There
are
many
other
issues
that
we
are
working
on,
that
that
don't
always
rise
to
that
level,
and-
and
this
is
one
to
be
honest-
it
doesn't
mean
it's
not
important.
I
It
just
means
that
you
know
where
it
doesn't
really
rise
to
the
the
enterprise
level
across
the
entire
organization,
and
so
that
you
know
that
that
contributes
to
to
the
issue.
I
think
you
know
I
don't
need
to
talk
about
the
pandemic.
We've
all
been
through
it
and
we
all
know
the
stresses
that
it's
created
on
our
organizations
and
we're
still
going
through
that.
I
You
know,
I
think
the
an
example
we
don't.
We
didn't
really
talk
about
on
the
road,
not
very
much
the
the
1.4
billion
dollar
planned
renovation,
so
we've
got
a
lot
of
things
going
on
that,
don't
necessarily
go
on
the
road
map
right.
I
don't
know
if
that
answers
your
question.
T
Sort
of
I
mean
I,
I
guess
I
guess
what
I'm
curious
about.
Obviously,
a
common
theme
in
many
of
the
things
we
talk
about
at
the
city
is
the
the
stressors
on
staff
and,
obviously
you
know
eoc
work
and
code
response,
all
that
which
is
super
important,
very
relevant,
and-
and
I
I
understand
it-
I
guess
I'm
curious
has
has
that
impacted.
T
I
Yeah
I'll
let
carrie
I
mean
I
I
think
we've
been
at
the
table,
though
pretty
pretty
good,
and
I
I
think
I
think
you
know
I
think
rick
knows
that
we've
been
sincere
about
kind
of
trying
to
to
figure
this
out.
You
know
I
think,
but
we
are
also
at
a
point
where
we
need
a
pretty
straightforward
approach
here,
because
we
just
don't
have
the
capacity
to
to
you,
know,
devote
and
and
divert
a
lot
of
resources
to
to
this,
and
so
that's
what
you,
what
you're
hearing
from
us?
It's
not
it's!
I
T
Did
care,
I
don't
know
if
carrie
thank
you
for
that
dave.
I
don't
know
if
carrie
wanted
to
say
anything,
but
because
I
saw
her
if
there's
anything
you're
on
mute
carrie.
If
there's
anything
great,
if
not
that's,
okay,
I
can't
no
okay,
all
right.
So
so
listen
I
mean
during
this
the
course
of
this
meeting.
I
guess
for
me,
what's
become.
T
What
seems
to
have
arisen
for
me
is
that
I
almost
feel
like
the
electeds
in
the
room
are
being
called
upon
to
be
mediators
of
sorts
that
they're
it's
evident
to
me
that
there's
some
miscommunication
or
or
just
folks
aren't
understanding
each
other
we're
talking
past
each
other.
I
understand
you
know
I
didn't.
T
How
can
I
put
this?
I
I
I
thought
it
was
interesting,
the
the
the
the
the
audio
being
played
of
kerry
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting,
as
I'm
sure
other
folks
thought
thought
of
that
as
well,
and
so,
but
I
also
understand
and
and
can
imagine
that
maybe
some
of
that's
born
out
of
frustration,
whether
it's
well
placed
or
not.
I
don't
know,
but
that's
what
I
suspect.
T
So
with
all
that
being
said,
I
I
think
you
know,
I
know
we're
diverting
or
not
moving
forward
the
memo
put
out
by
the
vice
mayor,
but
the
components
within
that
memo
that
really
stand
out
to
me
that
I
think
of
of
most
importance
is
really
the
executive
negotiating
team,
because
I
I
think
in
my
mind
at
least
thinking
of
it
very
high
level,
that,
if
staffs
from
the
wall,
valley,
water
and
from
the
city
just
aren't
connecting
properly,
I
think
it
it.
T
It
may
be
well
to
have
other
folks
in
the
room
to
try
to
understand
this
and
try
to
figure
out
a
path
forward,
and
so
I
also
appreciate
the
comments
from
director
kremen
in
that
listen.
T
If
we're
gonna
do
this,
let's
do
this
if
we're
not
they'll
move
on
right
and
and
and
so
I'm
very
much
interested
in
really
vetting
this
out
to
the
extent
possible,
you
know
trying
to
do
do
things
in
which
it's
within
the
timeline
again,
if
possible,
that
walt
valley,
water
has
but
also
obviously
they're
being
very
thoughtful
as
to
the
impacts
of
the
city,
and
so
I
look
forward
to
some
of
this
information
coming
back.
I
think
vice
mayor,
you
said
it
was
going
to
come.
T
You
thought
this
memo
and
this
discussion,
maybe
in
closed
session
or
some
in
public
session,
was
going
to
come
back
in
about
two
weeks
or
so.
Is
that
that's
correct?
Okay,
all
right
yeah?
I
look
forward
to
that
conversation,
and
one
thing
I
would
say
to
city
staff
is:
I
know
during
the
course
of
the
presentation
there
was
a
particular
slide.
T
I
think
it
was
16
of
16,
where
we,
the
city
staff,
touched
on
next
steps
and
you
just
sort
of
a
litany
of
things
that
we
need
to
that
that
are
our
next
steps
within
the
negotiation
of
an
agreement.
T
Obviously,
looking
at
the
list,
it
seems
like
a
lot
of
stuff
a
lot
of
complicated
stuff
and
I
don't
pretend
to
understand
it
all,
but
what
I
would
like
to
understand
as
an
example
when
you,
when
staff
comes
back
to
the
to
the
city
council,
is
on
that
slide,
16
there's
a
list
of
things
and
one
of
them,
for
example,
is
negotiate
or
revise
the
operations
agreement,
or
you
know,
there's
different
things
like
that.
I'd
like
to
know
like
some
of
these
revisions
to
some
of
these
agreements.
T
Is
it
a
matter
of
changing
a
word
here
and
there?
Is
it
a
massive
overhaul
right
because,
based
on
the
list,
it
makes
it
seem
like
it's
just
this
overwhelming
amount
of
work,
but
I
don't
know
if
that's
the
case
right,
and
I
want
to
better
understand
that
because
I
I
think
we
need
clarity
as
we
move
forward
in
these
negotiations,
because
if
we
don't
have
it,
I
think
it's
going
to
continue
to
perpetuate
sort
of
this
talking
past
each
other
and,
quite
frankly,
I'm
not
interested
in
having
these
type
of
conversations.
T
It
just
becomes
a
public
sort
of
vetting
ground
to
vet
some
of
these
grievances
and
I
don't
think
it's
very
productive,
and
so
I
really
do
hope
that,
as
we
move
forward
we're
moving
forward
more
purposefully
and
again
with
an
executive
management
team,
maybe
some
council,
members
and
valley
water
directors
on
there
I
think,
can
help
potentially
facilitate
some
of
these
conversations.
So
very
looking
forward
to
to
to
to
that
time.
Thank
you.
E
Thank
you
very
much.
I'd
really
like
to
express
my
appreciation
to
vice
mayor
chappie
jones
and
council
members,
uranus
and
jimenez
for
for
their
input
and
comments,
great
points,
and
I
I
really
appreciate
them.
You
know
I
am
a
long
time
san
jose
resident
and
I
also
spent
19
years
working
for
the
city
of
san
jose
and
I
certainly
understand
the
financial
constraints
that
san
jose
operates
under
even
in
good
times.
San
jose
has
stretched
then,
and
right
now
we
have
not
been
going
through
good
times.
E
So
I
understand
the
the
sensitivity
in
terms
of
staff
levels
and
what
san
jose's
internal
priorities
are.
One
of
the
things
it
seems
to
me.
Reading
between
the
lines
there's
almost.
E
That's
certainly
something
I
think
that
could
be
discussed
in
terms
of
negotiations,
if,
if
that
is
indeed
the
the
roadblock
to
moving
forward,
I
would
just
like
to
point
out
one
thing
that
council
member
arena
said-
and
I
am
sensitive
to
this
as
well,
because
I
hear
from
it
from
my
constituents,
which
is
trying
to
keep
water
rates
as
low
as
we
possibly
can,
and
I
think
that,
as
we
move
forward
in
negotiations,
you
know
that's
something
that
needs
to
be
in
our
mind
when
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
miss
romanow
said
was
that
if
we
were
to
get
our
own
discharge
outlet,
that
would
be
cleaner
from
their
perspective,
but
that's
more
expensive,
and
so
I
think
jointly.
E
We
need
to
be
looking
at
what
are
the
options
that
can
be
considered,
that
and,
and
both
parties
be
committed
to.
Ultimately,
it's
our
water
consumers
that
are
paying
the
costs
of
these
and
so
adding
any
additional
cost.
We
should
be
looking
for
what's
the
most
cost
effective
option,
because
it's
going
to
be
impacting
all
of
our
constituents,
so
thank
you
very
much.
F
Yeah,
thank
you
and
thank
you
director,
keegan
on
that
last
one.
I
think
that
is
something
worth
noting,
although
two
different
agencies
here,
we
serve
the
same
constituencies
and-
and
I
think
certainly
we've
heard-
that
time
and
again
that
not
only
is
there
confusion
in
regards
to
where
different
lines
are
drawn,
but
the
reality
is
is
that
I
think
at
the
end
of
the
day,
our
constituencies
don't
necessarily
care
about
the
individual
differences
that
we
may
have
on
some
of
these
challenges.
F
They
just
want
to
see
that
we
get
to
solutions
that
are
best
for
them
and
you
know-
and
we
are
included
in
that
because
we,
you
know
also
as
as
whether
we
remain
with
these
agencies
in
elected
roles
or
staff
roles
or
not.
You
know
the
majority
of
us.
F
We
live
within
the
within
these
areas
and
and
so
we're
also
benefactors,
and
we
also
end
up
paying
for
it
for
the
services,
and
so
we
serve
and
wear
multiple
hats
and-
and
I
do
think
you
know
in
that
spirit-
certainly
of
collaboration
is-
is
where
I
feel
we
we
have
to
work
together.
It's
not
really
an
option.
F
F
I
know
that
that
the
one
part
of
kerry's
memo
that
I
did
not
necessarily
like
was
just
option
two
right
deferring
the
negotiations
recommended
valley.
Water
proceed
with
the
palo
alto
mountain
view
project,
and
the
only
reason
is
is
similarly
to
what
our
mayor
described.
F
I
too
have
been
a
champion
and
very
interested
in
san
jose
being
a
partner
and
and
and
having
this
plant,
and
I
didn't
drink
the
the
water
with
the
mayor
on
that
day,
but
would
be
happy
to
moving
forward
as
a
continued
sign
of
confidence.
It's
not.
F
And
but
I
really
do
think
it
is
this,
this
has
multiple
benefits
for
for
our
city,
specifically
as
well,
and
so
I
look
forward
to
the
conversation
over
the
next
couple
weeks
with
our
council
and-
and
I
do
think,
the
suggestions
from
the
vice
mayor
in
regards
to
trying
to
see
how
we
can
get
at
an
executive
level
of
negotiations.
F
I
think
that
potentially
could
help.
I
don't
think
it
could
hurt,
and
so
I
would
support
that
that
as
well.
Those
are
my
comments
thanks.
J
Thank
you
yeah.
I
I
too
would
like
to
see
us
find
a
way
to
move
forward
together.
I
think
I
think
this
project
potentially
has
a
tremendous
amount
of
merit
over
the
long
haul,
and
I'm
I
told
director
lazada,
I'm
also
very
ready
to
go
out
and
drink
a
glass
of
this
purified
water.
So
I'm
you
know
at
least
at
least
in
in
conceptually
very
supportive.
I
wanted
to
just
dig
in
a
little
deeper
on
one
issue
that
we've
we've,
I
think,
is
a
real
sticking
point
for
our
staff.
J
From
what
I've
heard
today-
and
I
know
it's
a
very
real
concern
across
all
of
our
priorities,
which
is
just
staff
capacity,
and
I
think
it's
related
to
what
director
keegan
mentioned
in
her
initial
comment,
it
would
be
helpful
to
hear
from
our
staff
a
little
more
about
the
nature
of
the
constraints
we
face
and
whether
or
not
additional
upfront
some
upfront
funding
would
alleviate
that
pressure
or
not-
and
I
say
this
with
the
realization
that
sometimes
you
know
money
helps
and
it
gives
you
more
capacity
you
can.
J
You
can
basically
buy
more
capacity
in
some
form,
consultants
or
or
whatnot,
or
hiring
more
staff.
Sometimes
the
nature
of
the
problem
is
such
that
the
the
expertise
you
have
you
know
it's
a
team.
It's
got
to
work
together,
there's
there's
some
core
functions
that
just
can't
be
easily
ramped
up.
So
can
I
don't
know
if
this
is
probably
for
carrie?
Does
some
upfront
funding
wherever
it
came
from?
I
don't
want
to
try
to
negotiate
the
agreement
here,
but
how
much
does
additional
funding?
D
Apparently
pressing
the
space
bar
doesn't
always
work,
so
thank
you
and
you
know
valley.
Water
has
been
paying
for
staff
time
to
to
do
these
negotiations,
because
it's
not
a
wastewater
project
prop
218
doesn't
allow
us
to
use
wastewater,
funded
staff
for
these
types
of
negotiations,
but
you
know
if
we
had
more
money
and
it
certainly
allows
us
to
put
more
people
on
it.
D
The
challenges
as
as
amit
presented,
our
team
is
really
already
overextended
and
when
we
did
our
rate
forecast
for
this
next
year,
we
didn't
add
additional
staff
to
to
do
this
type
of
work.
But
obviously,
having
said
that,
you
know
we
are
all
trying
to
resolve
this.
D
So
so
one
idea
which
I'm
just
going
to
throw
out
there
for
us
to
think
about
is
maybe
there's
a
way
to
to
use
some
valley,
water
funding
and
say
thank
you
director,
keegan
for
suggesting
that
to
to
bring
in
a
third
party
facilitator.
D
So
maybe
there's
a
way
to
start
at
this
a
different
way,
but
it's
got
to
be.
We've
got
to
have
you
know
a
limited
amount
of
time
per
week.
D
I
I
just
don't
have
four
to
five
hours
every
week
to
put
on
this,
but,
but
certainly
you
know,
we
can
maybe
figure
out
a
a
project
timeline
and
say
we're
gonna
start
here
and
we're
gonna
end
here,
and
this
is
this:
is
we're
either
going
to
get
there
or
we're
not
because
I
think
part
of
the
frustration
you're
hearing
from
from
all
of
us
is
we've
been
at
this
a
long
time
and
we're
no
further
along.
D
But
again,
you
know
we're
happy
to
sign
a
palo
alto
deal
today
start
work
on
on.
Can
we
and
should
we?
Is
it
in
the
best
interest
of
everyone
to
adjust
the
the
existing
integration
agreement?
The
existing
facility
is
serving
the
exact
purpose
it
was
intended
to
for
both
parties.
So
so
we
have
to
understand
if
what
changing
it,
what
impacts
that
changing
it
would
cause
for
both
parties.
D
J
B
But
we
we
obviously
have
been
willing
to
consider
that
and
continue
that
I
have
a
councilman
cohen
and
then
director
lauzon
and
there's
another
council
person
there
so
got
a
list.
I
I
think
this
is
a
quick
question
because
I
think
kerry
just
answered
it,
but
the
as
vice
chair,
cremin,
said:
there's
a
deal
with
palo
alto
in
place
and
palo
alto
seems
to
that
deal
was
probably
predicated
on
everybody,
agreeing
that
the
technical
issues
are
solvable
and
that
the
technical
environmental
questions
are
answered,
but
san
jose
has
a
different
take
on
whether
we've
answered
those
issues-
and
I
think
I
hear
there's,
there's
there's
the
technical
environmental
issue
that
we
still
want
to
be
more
comfortable
with,
and
is
that
maybe
because
we're
a
little
less
comfortable
with
the
analysis
than
palo
alto
is
and
then
also
the
the.
I
I
guess,
there's
the
legal
question,
because
we're
changing
an
existing
facility
there's
some
other
considerations
that
palo
alto
doesn't
have,
and
I
just
want
to
understand.
Maybe
carrie
can
only
understand
what
are
the
the
differences.
What
is
it
about
the
deal
that
we
that
we're
still
we're
more
have
more
to
hang
up
on
than
palo
alto.
D
H
Sure,
thank
you.
It's
it's.
Maybe
a
15-page
legal
contract
council
member
but
I'll
narrow
it
down
into
just
two
points.
It
was
a
reservation
of
wastewater
rights
about
of
about
nine
million
gallons
a
day,
an
option
to
to
use
9
million
gallons
a
day
of
wastewater
in
exchange
for
financial
compensation.
H
There
are
other
terms
in
there
there's
a
there's.
A
potential
long-term
water
supply
component,
there's
an
agreement
that
they
will
work
together
on
on
solutions
regarding
ro
concentrate,
but
none
of
the
none
of
the
other
terms
were
included
in
there.
It
really
was
a
reservation
of
wastewater
rights,
and
that,
I
think,
is
what
we're
saying
that
we
could
do
and
we
had
entered
into
negotiations.
H
I
believe
several
months
ago,
with
the
intent
of
of
doing
just
that
of
valley
water,
walking
away
with
another
option
to
buy
nine
million
gallons
a
day
of
wastewater
from
us,
and
they
also
wouldn't
have
that
same
option
with
palo,
alto
and
mountain
view,
and
that
is
what
we
were
working
towards
right
now
and
valley.
Water
could
maybe
provide
more
context.
There
are
currently
negotiating
again
with
palo
alto,
on
adding
other
components,
additional
components
to
that
agreement
or
a
new
agreement.
H
They
have
expressed,
of
course-
and
I
think
it
was
mentioned
before-
not
only
to
do
a
palo
alto
style
agreement
with
us,
but
to
add
land
ro
concentrate,
go
back
and
revise
our
existing
agreement.
The
integration
agreement
we're
determining
it
in
order
to
do
a
more
cohesive
package
with
us
at
at
one
time.
H
H
One
of
the
next
steps
we've
also
offered
then,
would
be
once
we
complete
that
perhaps
we
could
then
move
into
the
land
lease
agreement.
This
would
be
setting
aside
the
land
and
then,
at
that
point
valley.
Water
would
have
two
agreements
in
hand,
a
reservation
to
buy
wastewater
of
nine
mgd
and
the
land,
and
then
we
could
work
into
a
much
more
a
much
more
difficult
and
lengthy
conversation
that
would
be
revising
our
existing
integration
agreement.
H
I'll
provide
just
maybe
a
little
bit
of
context,
because
there
are
some
questions
on.
How
is
their
discussions
with
us
a
little
bit
different
than
than
just
with
palo
alto?
This
2010
integration
agreement?
There
was
a
meeting
back
in
january
and
there
was
a
consensus
to
talk
about
revising
three
terms
of
that
one:
to
allow
the
existing
facility
to
have
blended
use.
H
The
second
one
was
to
revise
the
some
of
the
termination
clauses
in
there
that
are
more
in
favor
of
san
jose
and
less
favorable
to
valley
water.
That
was
an
interest
in
valley
water
in
pursuing
that
discussion
and
then
the
third
one
there's
a
revenue
sharing
component
that
goes
along
with
that
agreement,
and
we
then
said
well,
let's,
let's
look
at
changing
that,
at
the
same
time
to
really
revising
three
different
aspects
that
integration
agreement.
H
H
So
there
there
is
that
joint
consensus
like
hey,
let's
go
back
in
that
and
maybe
revise
it.
The
concern
with
staff's
timeline
valley,
water
timeline
is
that
opening
up
that
agreement
alone
will
take
a
considerable
a
considerable
amount
of
time.
D
Member,
if
I
could,
if
I
could
just
summarize
so
you
know,
we
feel
like
the
the
sort
of
line
has.
C
D
A
bit
so
in
palo
alto,
it
was
as
jeff
said,
reservation
of
some
rights
then
work
on
the
details
we
feel
like
for
san
jose.
They
want
to
work
out
the
details
first
and
then
talk
about
reserving
rights
and
money
exchange
and
all
that
and
that's
not
really
what
we
embarked
on
and
and
it's
not
the
same
level
of
effort
and
and
it's
not
the
same
timeline.
So
we
like
the
palo
alto
agreement,
we
reviewed
it.
We're
we've
been
ready
to
go
for
13
months.
D
C
Thank
you,
ceo
calendar
yeah.
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
a
little
bit
the
difference
between
the
palo
alto
and
the
san
jose
agreement.
We
have
had
an
ongoing
existing
relationship
with
san
jose
for
many
years.
As
you
know,
we're
already
partners
in
the
silicon
valley,
advanced
purification
center
and
we've
already
contributed
about
65
million
dollars
to
to
this
project
in
palo
alto.
This
is
the
beginning
of
a
new
relationship.
C
They
were
on
there.
They
were
beginning
their
own
recycled
water
program
and
we
simply
entered
into
an
agreement
to
reserve
rights
to
be
able
to
partner
with
them.
On
that
agreement
we
have
different
starting
points
with
san
jose
and
palo
alto,
they're,
really
not
comparable.
So
in
palo
alto,
it's
true.
We
are
still
continuing
to
work
through
the
ro
concentrate
and
the
lion
lease
agreements
we're
doing
the
same
with
san
jose,
but
we
don't
have
to
start
and
go
back
to
the
beginning
and
develop
an
initial
relationship.
C
Q
Q
The
real
cost
savings
to
our
mutual
rate
payers
is
by
expanding
the
existing
facility
in
san
jose,
if
we're
doing
a
stand-alone
facility,
or
you
know
in
palo,
alto
or
san
jose,
that
doesn't
really
help
our
ratepayers.
In
the
long
run
and
as
we
mentioned
before,
we
are
already
actively
working
with
palo
alto
on
the
land
lease
and
the
ro
concentrate
management
to
meet
our
timeline.
So,
as
we
are,
you
know
heading
into
another
drought.
We
want
to
be
ready
to
have
this
project
go
out
to
bid
this
year.
I
Thank
you.
I
thanks
for
the
clarification
all
that
makes
a
lot
of
sense
to
me,
the
and
and
as
we
I
think
I
think
many
of
us
are
expressing
that
we'd
like
to
come
to
a
deal
and
because
I
think
it's
better
for
our
ratepayers
to
do
it
in
san
jose
than
start
something
new
in
palo
alto,
so
I
think
ultimately
we'd
like
to
get
there.
So
one
of
the
questions
now
is
timeline.
Obviously
you
know
the
timeline.
Was
you
want
to
have
an
agreement
in
place
by
june?
What
is
your
ultimate?
I
Q
B
Well,
if
we
are
pursuing
a
p3,
we
we
have
a
specific
timeline
that
we're
trying
to
follow.
We've
got
an
rfp
that
we're
developing
that
we're
putting
out
pretty
soon
and
so
we're
trying
to
we're
trying
to
get
that
working
together,
and
that's
that's
what
this
is
all
about.
B
We
hope
to
have
a
p3
on
board,
so
they
could
help
us
with
siding
and
so
on.
So
part
of
the
p3
is
to
to
plan,
develop
finance,
build
and
and
operate.
So
that
means
they
need
to
be
on
the
ground
floor.
So
that's
why
we're
trying
to
coordinate
all
of
this
together?
That's
that's!
That's
what
our
schedule
is.
B
We've
waited
a
long
time
for
moving
on
this,
and
so
it's
it's
a
question
of
of
getting
this
moving
to
hit
our
target
in
our
master
in
our
master
planning
that
we've
done
now
for
a
number
of
years.
That's
what
we're
expecting
and,
of
course
you
know,
we
have
a
lot
of
pressure
with
the
kind
of
funding
that's
now
available
and
will
soon
be
expanded
to
the
federal
government,
with
with
hopefully
more
more
funding
from
the
present
administration
for
infrastructure
funding.
That
might
come
up.
B
So
it's
a
question
of
trying
to
fit
all
this
in
the
same
timeline.
Let
me
let
me
call
on
director
lazad
because
she's
been
waiting.
Then
we
have
another
council
person,
that's
council,
member
cohen,
are
you
are
you?
Are
you
done.
I
Yeah,
I
mean
just
just
to
wrap
up
and
say
that
you
know
I
look
forward
to
the
conversation
a
couple
weeks
with
our
council
and
I
I
I
do
support
some
of
the
direction
that
councilmember
jones
has
has
put
out
in
his
memo
and
would
be,
I
think,
there's
many
of
us
who
would
be
happy
to
participate
in
some
way
to
bring
to
bring
a
better
team
or
a
bigger
team
to
the
to
to
help
try
to
get
this
resolved.
So
this
has
been
a
great
conversation
today,
thanks.
B
Great
thank
you,
sir
director
luzon.
M
Thank
you
first,
a
couple
of
comments
and
then
a
question
for
dave
sykes.
I
really
appreciate
the
questions
and
the
thoughtfulness
of
the
inquiry
from
the
council
members
and
it's
it's
really
heartwarming
to
see
that
they're
engaged
and
and
want
to
see
something
move
forward.
I
think
that's
that's
really
really
important.
M
I
do
think
that
we're
kind
of
talking
past
one
another
and
it
may
be
that
some
sort
of
mediation
is
going
to
be
required
or
a
third
party
to
to
help.
You
know
solve
the
differences
between.
You
know
what
we're
looking
at
from
a
palo
alto
agreement
and
what
the
city
of
san
jose
is
looking
at
from
the
palo
alto
agreement.
M
So
I
I
I
think
you
know
we're
we're
probably
out
of
stalemate
there
and
in
order
to
break
that
log
jam,
I
don't
know
whether
it's
involving
the
electeds
or
whether
it's
involving
a
third
party
to
kind
of
sit
in
and
hash
it
out.
The
question
for
dave
sykes
and
I
think
it
may
have
been
answered
by
kerry
and
I
think
was
jeff.
You've
said
multiple
times
that
if
it's
just
a
straightforward
sort
of
process
that
you
have
the
resources
to
to
move
forward
with
that
you're
ready
to
go.
M
But
if
it's
anything
beyond
that
that
it's
there's
no
bandwidth
either
with
employees
for
funding
and
so
what
it.
What
is
the
straightforward
process
you're
talking
about?
Is
it
just
doing
the
palo
alto
style
agreement
and
putting
all
the
other
things
that
that
were
talked
about
to
another
day?
I
don't
want
to
assume
that
I
understood
what
you
were,
meaning
by
that
term.
I
Yeah,
thank
you
director
yeah,
I
mean
that's,
that's
what
I
meant,
and
you
know,
and
I
think
your
comments
earlier.
I
yeah
I
mean
I
just
I
think
we
heard
just
heard
what
melanie
and
kirsten
said.
So
I
think
you
know
it
doesn't
sound
like
a
palo
alto
deal
really
works
for
for
valley,
water
and
and
that's
I
think,
what
our
direction
has
been
from
our
council
and,
as
you
can
hear
from
us,
that's
what
we've
been
advocating
is
as
it's
kind
of
straightforward.
You
know
straight
easy
thing
to
do
so.
B
You,
council
members
barza
did
I
have
a
couple
directors.
E
Thank
you
I
I'll
be
quick.
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
comment,
because
again,
the
goal
of
today
is
really
to
to
have
this
kind
of
discussion.
I
wanted
to
thank
vice
mayor
jones
for
his
leadership
and
and
express
my
desire
as
well
to
move
forward
on
this,
and
and
I
I
am
optimistic
that,
through
our
partnership
that
we
can
come
together
and
come
to
a
deal,
that's
it.
Thank
you.
L
Yes,
it
is
good
morning,
it's
been
a
long
time,
I'm
getting
dry
mouth
but
the
most
important
it's
an
aviso.
Let's
keep
it
supposed
to
laugh
a
little
bit
but
you're
not,
but
let
me
go
back
a
little
bit.
I
thought
that
council
member
jimenez
had
us
some
good
suggestions
among
others.
I
thought
I
knew
a
lot
and
then
all
of
a
sudden
I
enlisted
this
meeting
for
the
last
couple
hours.
L
I've
learned
a
lot
more
when
it
comes
to
the
city
manager
of
san
jose,
mr
sykes,
I
have
the
ultimate
respect
because
I've
had
a
set
with
him
many
times
on
different
issues
in
the
community,
he's
always
enlisted
and
being
a
very
affair.
Man.
Of
course,
I
work
with
rick
calendar
all
the
time
and
he's
the
utmost.
I
really
believe
that
what
the
vice
mayor
jones
said,
you
know
I'll
come
back
in
a
couple
of
weeks.
I
think
we
need
to
give
the
opportunity
to
chair
esther
mara
and
vice
chair
jones.
L
I've
had
some
brief
conversations
in
the
past
with
vice
mayor
jones.
It's
been
very
beneficial.
I
really
appreciate
his
enthusiasm
and
so
on.
It's
obviously
there's
some
impasse
and
I
believe
that
tony
and
the
vice
mayor
and
the
staffs
can
get
together
in
a
couple
weeks.
I
think
they
can
resolve.
Many
of
these
little
we
call
me
might
be
nitpicking,
might
be
real
serious
issues
that
could
be
resolved.
I
think
we
should
give
it
at
that
time.
I've
listened
to
everybody
over
this
last
two
hours.
L
K
Yeah
I'll
make
it
quick,
I
mean
you
know,
going
back
to
the
situation
with
palo
alto.
There
was
long-standing
feuding
and
it
was
on
multiple
levels
before
this
agreement.
It
settled
you
know
we're
talking
about
how
narrow
to
make
any
discussions.
K
So
I
think
if
we
maybe
the
suggestion
of
director,
estemara
and
vice
mayor
jones
is
the
way
to
go,
because
that's
how
we
did
it
there,
which
is
kind
of,
took
all
the
issues
to
the
table
and
empowered
two
people
to
come
up
with
a
draft
agreement
subject
to
everyone.
K
L
Thank
you
chair,
mr
maryland,
so
I'd
like
to
put
my
lens
on
a
different
approach
on
what
we're
talking
about
and
let's
take
a
look
at
the
global
picture
of.
What's
what
we're
all
experiencing
today
and
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
climate
change
and
the
impacts
that
we're
experiencing
locally
from
that
phenomenon.
L
We
have
toxicity
issues
when
we
look
at
what
has
recently
occurred
in
flint
michigan
and
the
city's
responsibility
that
they're
now
taking
for
that.
What
happened
recently
in
the
state
of
texas
and
other
regions
where
water
is
tainted
and
impacted,
and
we
have
locally
what
we
consider
disadvantaged
communities,
mostly
in
the
central
part
of
the
state,
and
these
are
farm
worker
communities
when
their
water
issues
are
also
very
toxic.
L
So
when
we're
talking
about
our
constituents
and
our
mutual
representation
here
in
silicon
valley,
in
which
we
are
very
fortunate,
when
you
turn
the
tap
at
your
at
your
home
or
your
business,
and
you
pour
that
glass
of
water
and
you
drink
it,
you
don't
have
any
second
thoughts
about
it,
none
whatsoever
because
it's
treated
it's
safe,
it's
clean,
so
the
discussions
that
we
are
having
today
is
all
what
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
for
our
future
clean,
safe
drinking
water,
the
sustainability
of
that
water,
purification
and
and
recycling.
L
So
I
just
want
to
put
that
into
our
thought
process
as
we're
talking
about
this,
and
currently
our
rates
are
low.
We
did
not
have
a
rate
increase
in
the
last
cycle,
recycle
period
of
rate
increases
and
so
in
the
water
district
is
currently
negotiating
this
year,
whether
or
not
we're
going
to
hold
those
rates
or
increase
them,
and
so
that's
what
the
water
district
is
discussing
currently,
so
I
just
wanted
to
share
those
thoughts
with
you
this
morning.
B
C
B
P
P
Yeah
time
to
figure
out
how
to
work
the
water
system,
guys,
you
know
purifying,
you
know
you
want
to
purify
it,
get
rid
of
the
fluorite
find
out
which
waterways
are
which,
and
when
I
hear
that
your
staff
is
stress
or
distressed
staff.
P
I
got
the
world's
smallest
violin
for
that,
after
all
the
rates
and
tactics
and
fees
I
pay
on
my
water
bill,
you
guys
are
stressed,
you
know.
What's
stressful
is
when
you
guys
make
when
you
guys
do
a
a
billing
error.
That's
become
stressful
when
a
water
bills,
like
thousands
of
dollars,
happen
to
my
friends
over
in
the
los
gatos
saratoga
area.
I
hope
you
guys
aren't
going
to
be
doing
that
anymore
or
whoever
did
it,
but
you
guys
should
all
be
ashamed
of
yourselves.
This
is
basic
water
infrastructure.
P
It
shouldn't
even
be
a
discussion
because
it
should
already
be
done
already,
but
it's
not
I
mean
you
guys
had
to
change
your
name
because
I
don't
know
you
were
ashamed
of
what
the
name
was,
or
maybe
the
city
of
santa
clara
and
the
county
didn't
want
to
be
affiliated
with
you
people.
I
could
imagine
why
you
guys
are
a
disaster.
P
You
should
be
ashamed
of
yourselves
and
you
guys
need
to
sharpen
your
pencils
work
with
what
what
money
you
can
and
figure
out
how
we
can
have
clean
water
in
one
of
the
richest
places
on
earth.
But
you
don't
pay
you
don't
care.
You
want
to
just
build
a
brand
new
building
and
extra
wings
to
it,
make
sure
there's
plenty
of
solar
panels
on
the
carport.
P
That's
what
you
guys
are
worried
about.
You're,
not
worried
about
the
rate
payers,
you're,
not
worried
about
the
safety
of
the
water.
You
just
want
more
money,
because
it's
a
cash
cow,
hey!
You
know
what
the
mafia
is
in
charge
of
this
day
in
sicily,
the
water,
oh
and
the
garbage
so
yeah.
That's
what
that's
what
you
guys
like!
It's
like
a
mafia.
P
B
B
K
S
Hi,
thank
you,
blair,
beekman
here,
blair
beekman.
Thank
you
for
the
meeting
today.
I
was
a
bit
late.
I
had
other
things
to
do
this
morning,
so
I
will
review
this
meeting,
but
I
came
in
about
the
last
45
minutes
and
I
did
not
hear
much
talk
about
rate
purposes.
What
will
happen
with
with
all
your
talk
of
recycling,
water
issues
and
purification?
S
What
what
exactly
will
be
the
rate
issues
that
you'll
be
considering?
I
know
san
jose
water
is
having
going
to
be
having
serious
issues
of
rate
increases.
You
sound
like
yourselves.
You
don't
quite
know
what
to
do
yet.
S
I
I
hope
that
learn
can
learn
to
be
a
conversation
that
can
be
an
open
conversation
and
it's
something
that's
workable
and
that
it
can
really
help
support
lower
income
persons,
while
upper
income
persons
can
pay
a
higher
amount.
Basically
I
mean
that's
the
the
strategy
behind
it
and
you
know
we're
kind
of
living
in
a
two-tiered
world
right
now.
I
don't
know
if
it's
the
subsidies
is
the
answer
for
long-term
use,
but
you
know:
east
bay,
community,
energy,
local,
san
jose
community
energy,
possibly
their
garbage
department
and
the
water
department.
S
S
If
you
do
choose
that
route
to
work
and
that's
kind
of
my
focus
and
point
and
emphasis,
I'm
also
interested
how
you
know
local
agencies
themselves,
you
know,
can
become
in
charge
of
these
subsidy
programs
instead
of
having
to
work
with,
say
the
cpuc
or
pg
e
and
that's
of
interest,
that's
an
idea,
so
consider
all
the
options
around
subsidy
programs
and
just
making
an
open
shared
process.
S
You
know
that
can
really
help
low-income
people,
while
upper
income,
people
can
can
pay
a
higher
bill,
and
so
good
luck
and
and
how
to
work
on
that.
And
I
guess
that's
all
I
have
to
say.
I
hope,
thanks
for
your
patience
with
my
words
and
my
inexperience
and
lack
of
knowledge,
and
hopefully
it
can
be
of
help.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you,
mr
beekman.
We
do
have
a
number
of
public
meetings
that
where
we
will
be
considering
our
water
rates-
and
I
direct
you
over
to
valleywater.org,
which
is
our
website,
so
that
you
can
see
when
those
public
hearings
are
we,
we
will
have
many
of
them
all
the
way
through
up
through
may.
C
B
L
Thank
you,
the
discussion
that
I
heard
and
I
was
on
and
off
because
I'm
taking
care
of
my
mother
that
has
alzheimer's
and
she's
103.
So
forgive
me
for
that.
It
reminds
me
when
I
represented
a
company
that
did
go
generation
in
latin
america.
L
It
was
going
to
be
a
pro
project
of
100
million
dollars
and
the
return
of
investment
was
going
to
be.
In
five
years,
the
company
energy
company
was
going
to
save
two
cents
for
every
kilowatt.
H
L
B
Thank
you,
mr
reyes.
You're.
Quite
right
we
were
we're
speaking
on
a
global
in
a
global
aspect
of
policy
making,
but
we
will
be
very
detailed
and
very
public
as
we
go
forward
next
person.
B
K
K
Okay,
great
great,
thank
you,
everybody,
I'm
I'm
starting
to
get
a
little
more
familiar.
My
name
is
scott
largent
and
I'm
trying
to
get
more
familiar
with
the
water
companies
meetings,
kind
of
policies,
kind
of
how
the
whole
gig
works.
K
K
I
am
currently
homeless
and
I
stay
in
a
motor
home
out
on
spring
street,
as
we
start
to
reopen
more
in
santa
clara
county,
as
you
guys
have
to
start
cleaning
up
the
creeks
and
getting
the
severely
mentally
ill
meth
addicts
kind
of
out
of
there
in
a
way
they
are
going
to
start
to
flood
into
the
crash
zone
in
different
areas.
We
understand
that's
going
to
happen.
K
What
I'm,
starting
to
wonder
is
why
we
haven't
set
up
something
like
a
fema
camp.
Why
we
have
not
started
to
provide.
I
know
we
do
our
little
tiny
homes
things
and
they
take
years
to
roll
out.
K
K
We
would
prevent
this
stuff
from
happening
and
a
lot
of
the
people
that
I'm
interacting
with
just
didn't
learn
about
a
lot
of
this
stuff
growing
up.
I
went
to
kenolin
camp
rich
kid
camp
and
we
learned
about
fires.
We
learned
about
clearing
the
areas
around
there.
We
learned
about
how
to
handle
a
firearm,
how
to
store
ammunition
properly.
I
mean
there's
all
these
things,
that
I
have
the
ability
to
learn
that
people
out
on
the
street
know
nothing
about.
K
Can
we
teach
people
out
here
how
to
survive
properly,
and
when
will
the
city
and
the
water
district
start
trying
to
do
more?
I
think
we
can
organize
this
out
here,
weed
out
the
bad
apples
and
all
these
people
have
to
get
out
of
the
creek.
We
have
to
start
giving
them
drug
treatment,
mental
health
services
and
the
stuff
that
I'm
seeing
in
your
creeks
is
it's
third
world
country
conditions.
These
people
need
some
serious
care
and
a
lot
of
them
do
need
to
be
institutionalized,
and
I
just
worry.
I
worry.
I
worry.
K
H
K
L
Yeah.
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
taking
my
call.
I've
been
waiting
very
patiently
since
9
00
a.m,
and
so
I
really
wanted
to
talk
about.
Hopefully,
I'm
going
to
jump
in
the
gun
about
rate
increases,
but
you
know
I'm
as
a
resident
of
district
8.
I'm
really
opposed
to
these
rate
increases
particularly
now
with
covet
19
and
there's
people
struggling
right
now
with
financially,
and
this
could
be.
You
know
one
of
the
things
that
breaks
the
proverbial.
L
You
know
camels
back
besides
that,
though
I
mean
these
things
seem
to
be
happening
every
year
or
almost
every
year,
and
they
seem
to
be
far
and
beyond
the
rate
of
I'd,
say
you
know
inflation
rates.
You
know
I.
Last
year
the
inflation
rate
was
like
1.23
percent,
and
previously
that
was
2.3
percent
and
so
the
average
person
living.
L
I
would
think
that
that's
a
cost
of
living
expense
increase
and
I
think
that
the
water
rate
should
be
commensurate
with
these
nation
increases
or
the
cost
of
consumer
price
index
increases,
because
if
they
are
going
far
beyond
that,
I've
heard
that
we
want
to
increase
the
the
rates
to
10
percent.
If
that
means
that
the
the
water
is
going
to
cost
proportionally
more
than
all
the
other
expenses
that
we
already
are
burdened
with-
and
you
know
I
I
think
that
there
should
be
some
responsibility
in
terms
of
how
the
finances
are
managed.
L
I
mean
manage
in
the
way
that
you
manage
your
own
pocketbook.
You
know
not
managing
the
way
that
you're
managing
other
people's
money,
I
mean
if
something
doesn't
need
to
be
done,
don't
do
it
or
maybe
it's
not
cost
effective.
Maybe
there's
better
ways
of
doing
that.
I
think
that
you
should
look
at
ways
of
doing
things
or
maybe
you
look
at
things
that
not
don't
need
to
be
done.
L
The
last
thing
we'll
just
want
to
mention
is
you
know
you
know,
I
don't
know
how
much
transparency
there
is
in
terms
of
justifying
these.
These
cost
increases.
If
it's
ten
percent,
you
know,
I
would
like
to
know
why
it
is
ten
percent.
You
know,
are
you
guys
managing
your
expenses
such
that
you
need
a
ten
percent
increase?
L
I
mean
if
you're
in
a
private
company
private
sector,
you
would
have
to
go
before
a
certain
board
and
say:
okay,
you
know
we
need
these
expenses
and
you
need
to
justify
these
expenses,
so
you
know
I'd
like
for
you,
as
whoever
may
be
the
water
board
or
whoever
to
justify
these
rate
increases.
I
I
think
it's
important
to
have
the
faith
of
the
public.
L
To
you
know,
say
this
is
okay
and
let
the
very
last
thing
I
say
is
I've
been
saving
a
lot
of
water
this
past
five
years,
and
it
seems
to
me
that
my
reward
for
saving
all
this
water
in
these
past
years
is
more
rate
increases.
I
just
don't
understand
that
you
know
so.
I
appreciate
you
keeping
these
rates
way
way
down
or
zero
and
manage
your
expenses
appropriately.
B
Thank
you,
mr
lee,
as
I
mentioned
previously
to
our
one
of
our
last
speakers,
we
gen
we
have
a
number
of
public
hearings
regarding
water
rates.
If
you
check
our
site
valleywater.org,
you
will
see
the
the
dates
all
listed
of
our
public
hearings,
any
any
other
public
comments.
S
A
Former
supervisor
of
the
county
original
county
mental
health
homeless
team,
I
work
in
the
encampments
constantly
now
I
have
to
say
that
that
the
other
day
there
was
the
water
district
did
a
sweep
down
by
alma
and
lilong.
I
talked
to
the
crews
there.
They
were
right
near
alma.
There
were
five,
ladies
who
were
living
in
small
little
tents.
A
The
first
day
they
seemed
to
sweep
the
garbage
the
next
day.
They
were
on
the
other
side
of
the
river.
They
told
me
they
were
not
going
to
tear
down
the
encampments
and
they
did.
You
know
the
brutality.
A
A
Q
A
Of
bad
actors
out
there
and
they
pray
as
much
on
the
homeless
as
other
you
know,
as
other
people
from
the
outside
too.
If
you
go
along
with
spring
street,
you
will
see
you
know
just
uncontrolled
encampments.
The
the
level
of
matthews
in
the
community
is
getting
just
completely
out
of
hand.
The
violence
that
around
park
is
getting
out
of
hand,
and
if
you
don't
do
something
to
improve
people's
lives,
it's
going
to
get
worse.
You
know
that
you
can't
house
those
people
chasing
them
around.
The
city
solves
nothing.
A
You
should
have
a
policy
whereby,
if
you're
going
to
do
a
sweep
and
move
tear
down
people's
encampments
have
a
place
for
them
to
go.
Another
plot
of
land
then
provide
services,
so
you
know
where
they
are.
You
know
one
of
the
main
things
that
happens
to
folks
who
even
begin
to
get
help
is
their
workers
cannot
find
them
after
you
chase
them
around.
So
I
beg
you
to
start
thinking
about
the
people
out.
There
is
not
the
homeless,
but
as
human
beings
who
have
every
need.
A
You
know
that
each
of
us
in
houses
have
so.
I
would
appreciate
it.
Gracefully
gratefully,
if
you
would
really
can
reconsider
those
of
you
in
political
positions,
and
those
of
you
on
the
water
board,
need
to
go
out
the
encampments
and
talk
to
people
and
realize
who
they
are.
A
lot
of
these
people
could
be
very
productive.
A
lot
of
them,
in
fact,
are
they
go
out?
A
B
Thank
you,
mr
scott.
We
have
another
person,
we
have.
L
Yes,
good
morning,
folks,
my
name
is
craig
ferguson.
As
you
said,
I'm
resident
district
8.,
with
the
rate
increase
about
to
that
you
guys
are
trying
to
impose,
and
I
know
I
heard
the
gentleman
say
that
you
have
other
talks
on
it.
But
now
is
my
time
to
speak,
and
I
I
prefer
to
take
the
time
as
right
now
what,
as
stated
earlier
with
the
rate
increases
most
folks
when
they
do
get
a
raise.
L
Their
raises
are
never
10
percent
three
percent,
if
anyone's
lucky
with
the
pandemic
going
on
most
of
us,
a
lot
of
us
are
out
of
work
or
work
has
been,
pay
has
been
reduced
tremendously.
A
10
rate
increase
at
this
time
is
is,
in
my
opinion,
absurd.
L
Yes,
everyone
needs,
rage
raises,
and
rates
must
go
up.
I
understand
that
a
few
years
ago,
when
we
had
the
when
we
had
the
water
shortage,
I
saved
a
tremendous
amount
of
water
and,
as
stated
earlier,
I
got
no
benefit
from
it.
The
rates
still
went
up.
The
water
rates
going
up
at
a
10
rate
is
too
much
at
one
time.
L
L
Well,
I
mean
I
just
actually
show
hands
whether
you're,
listening
or
you're,
not,
but
the
10
rate
increase
that
stated
earlier
is
way
too
much
weight
too
soon
and
I'm
gonna
yield
the
rest
of
my
time
at
this
time.
Thank
you
for
listening.
Thank.
C
A
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
appreciate
that
we're
in
the
very
final
minutes
here
and
we
haven't
addressed
the
third
item,
particularly
around
water's
play.
I
know
that
many
of
us
have
strong
interests.
In
fact,
when
I
reached
out
to
dave
sykes
about
setting
up
this
meeting,
it
was
really
because
I
was
primarily
concerned
about
water
supply
issues.
A
I
would
like
to
suggest
if
the
valley
water
board
was
was
open
to
it
to
having
water
valley
water
staff
come
to
council
at
a
meeting,
we
can
set
it
at
everyone's
convenience
simply
to
present
on
that
item
as
part
of
one
of
our
council
meetings.
We
certainly
invite
valley
water
board
members
that
they'd
like
to
come
to
to
be
able
to
speak.
That
would
certainly
be
welcome,
but
really
for
us
to
be
able
to
hear
the
information,
understand
it
and
have
the
time
to
be
able
to
discuss
it
in
some
depth.
B
Yes,
yeah.
J
B
Yes,
and
as
I
mentioned
for
those
folks
that
are
listening,
we
have
a
number
of
public
hearings
regarding
water
rates.
So
it's
we
don't
have
one
meeting.
We
have
a
number
of
meetings.
We
basically
started
actually
in
the
winter
before
so
we
started
discussing
rates
supply
since
last
september
for
for
next
year.
So
it's
a
process
that
we
follow,
but
we'll
go
through
that
and
share
it
with
with
council
members.
We're
happy
to
do
that.
So
on
the
wrap
up.
B
Let
me
just
quickly
say
as
a
champion
of
recycle.
You
know.
In
eight
months
we
had
a
45-year
agreement,
so
I
have
every
expectation
I
have
every
hope
and
every
confidence
that
we
can.
We
can
get
together,
coordinate
collaborate
and
come
up
with
an
agreement
that
will
be
effective
and
acceptable
to
all
of
us.
We
all
represent
the
same
people
and
one
of
the
reasons
that
the
many
reasons
that
we
favor
sighting
in
san
jose
is
because
one
million
people
that's
half
of
the
population
in
the
whole
county.
A
No,
I
think
you
said
it
very
well
chair
and
we
look
forward
to
collaborating
on
this
important
project
and
many
others.
G
B
Do
we
have
any
more
members
of
the
bus.
C
Yes,
mr
chair,
I
have
a
mr
mike
duffy
and
a
consensus
by
the
name
of
janet
and
then
miss
chris
pilsen.
Okay
mike
mr
mike
duffy,
miss
duffy.
L
Hi
everybody,
sorry.
I
was
going
to
speak
at
the
next
agenda
item,
but
it
sounds
like
it's
not
going
to
be
heard
today
and
then
the
content
section
at
the
end
of
the
meeting.
That
sounds
like
it's
not
going
to
happen
either.
So
I'm
jumping
in
now
good
morning,
esther
mara,
mayor
le
cardo
members
of
the
board
and
city
council
mike
duffy,
and
I'm
the
president
of
valley
waters,
professional
association
and
I'm
here
representing
valley
waters
unit
managers,
as
we've
heard
during
the
previous
discussion
today.
L
It's
also
important
to
point
out
that
the
budget
and
proposed
water
rate
will
not
only
help
valley
water.
It
will
also
create
an
estimated
four
thousand
private
water
sector
jobs
that
will
be
necessary
to
complete
the
essential
work
associated
with
it.
It's
important
to
support
this
work
and
the
people
who
will
benefit
from
it.
Please
join
us
in
supporting
the
proposed
budget
and
water
rates.
Thank
you
very
much.
C
C
C
But
what
I
will
say
is
that,
in
terms
of
the
palo
alto
and
overlaying
san
jose
plan
for
water
purification,
it's
disappointing
to
hear
that
on
one
hand,
you're
ready
to
sign
an
agreement.
That's
like
palo
alto.
On
the
other
hand,
people
are
saying
no
that
won't
work.
San
jose
wants
details
up
front.
C
I
think
that
with
covid
and
with
all
the
things
that
the
city
has
gone
through
and
in
terms
of
trying
to
feed
people
in
terms
of
getting
people
vaccinated,
people
not
being
able
to
go
to
work,
people
not
being
schooled
correctly
and
folks
that
just
simply
can't
afford
their
rent
or
their
water
bills
to
impose
a
10
percent
increase
at
this
time
is
terrible.
C
C
Nix
have
miss
chris
pilsen.
C
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
chris
pilsen,
president
of
the
employees,
association
askme,
local
101,
the
largest
bargaining
unit
representing
over
500
employees
here
at
valley,
water.
I
am
here
to
express
our
support
for
the
proposed
budget.
The
proposed
budget
includes
a
number
of
positions
which
will
increase
boots
on
the
ground
and
will
help
support
our
work
in
maintaining
our
creeks
and
waterways,
removing
invasive
vegetation,
improving
habitat
and
increasing
flow
capacity
to
reduce
the
potential
for
flooding.
Thank
you
for
your
time
and
we
look
forward
to
increased
resources
to
better
serve
our
community.
C
We
have
mr
robert
reese.
L
I
want
to
reiterate
my
support
for
this
joint
meeting
concept.
It's
been
really
great
and
appreciate
your
time
today.
Also
I
wanted
to
let
you
know
that
there
are
letters
from
other
community
members
which
directors
and
council
members
may
not
yet
have
seen.
Also,
I
don't
know
if
the
directors
had
seen
silvia
arenas's
memo
to
the
city
which
drills
down
deeply
into
the
relationship
between
the
pandemic,
the
stimulus
funding,
and
I
think
it
would
be
important
that
directors
saw
that
very
much
appreciate
the
directors
foregoing
the
increase
last
year.
L
I
think
through
working
together
and
maybe
looking
at
council
member
arenas
model
in
her
memo,
there
can
be
some
additional
collaboration.
I
presume
there's
going
to
be
federal
rule
writing
by
the
agencies
on
how
the
stimulus
is
used.
Perhaps
the
district
and
the
city
can
work
together
in
that
rule,
writing
to
abate
as
much
of
this
potential
increase
as
possible
have
a
good
weekend.
Everyone.
B
Thank
you,
mr
reese.
We'll
have
make
sure
that
our
ceo
shares
a
copy
of
that
with
all
our
board
members,
but
next
person.
Thank
you,
mr
reese.
E
Thank
you,
terrace
romero
and
members
of
the
board
and
mayor
sam
licardo
and
city
council
members,
I'm
here
representing
the
engineer
society
as
president.
I
just
wanted
to
go
ahead
and
echo
what
mike
duffy
and
chris
nielsen
have
put
forward
we're
here
in
support
of
the
proposed
budget
rate
increase,
and
we
just
want
to
continue
working
hard
to
provide
the
infras
infrastructure
to
continue
the
the
important
work
that
valley
water
does
in
our
community,
so
without
taking
any
more
time.
Thank
you.
L
Good
afternoon
chairs
ramirez
members
of
the
board
and
the
city
council,
my
name
is
jeremy
burus.
I
am
president
of
the
district
8
community
roundtable.
I
strongly
urge
this
body
to
against
the
proposed
water
rate
increases.
L
While
we
may
be
slowly
reopening
and
seeing
why,
at
the
end
of
the
tunnel
for
many
san
jose
families,
you
know
are
still
struggling
to
get
back
on
their
feet.
L
That's
why
I
strongly
urge
against
the
rate,
increases
and
hope
that
you
know
this
body
has
this
unique
opportunity
to
stand
up
for
san
jose
families?
Thank
you.
P
B
P
Yeah,
you
know
what
it
does.
No,
you
didn't
pick
up.
You
didn't
pick
up
on
me.
You
skipped
over
me.
You
skipped
over
me.
You
skipped
over
the
wh.
What
was
gonna
what
you
were
going
to
go
over
anyway.
You
guys
didn't
even
want
to
talk
about
the
rate
increase
because
you're
afraid
too,
you
guys
are
afraid
to
talk
about
the
rate
increase.
Everybody
knows
about
it,
it's
not
a
secret,
but
you're.
You
refuse!
P
You
guys
are
refusing
to
do
this.
You
know
what
I'm
gonna
go:
waste,
seven
gallons
of
water
cause.
I
gotta
go!
I'm
gonna!
I
wanna
puke
in
my
toilet,
about
what
you
guys
were
talking
about
today
about
how
stressed
out
your
staff
is,
and
you
need
more
workers
and
more
pay.
You
know
what
you
guys
need
to
do,
how
about
a
rate
decrease?
How
about
laying
off
some
people
who
sit
around
with
their
feet
up
at
that
valley,
water
building!
You
guys!
P
Don't
do
anything
you
all
you
do
is
poison
the
water
with
fluoride,
you
you
you,
don't
you
don't
practice
good
infrastructure,
rebuilding
you
guys!
Don't
do
anything!
You
guys!
Are
you
don't
even
know
what
waterway
is
what
you
know
that
you
don't
know?
If
you
don't
know,
if
it's
county,
you
don't
know.
P
If
it's
city,
you
don't
know,
if
it's
yours,
you
don't
know,
if
it's
state,
you
guys
need
to
answer
some
questions,
because
you
have
been
sitting
on
a
gold
mine
so
long
you
don't
realize
it,
but
now
you
want
to
increase
the
water
10.
People
can't
afford
that.
How
about
the
people?
Who
can
do
they
want
to?
Who
wants
to
pay
you
guys
another
10,
you
have
it
buried.
I
want
everyone.
Listening,
it's
buried
in
your
state
tax,
for
your
for
your
property
tax.
You
guys
bury
the
water
in
the
garbage.
P
Just
like
the
mafia
would
do
you
guys
are
a
high-tech
mafia.
You
know
that
gives
out
free
calendars
by
the
way
nice
calendar,
by
the
way
that
you
guys
sent
me
it's.
The
least
you
could
do.
I
had
to
beg
for
it
to
get
one
right.
You
should
have
sent
them.
Actually,
maybe
you
shouldn't
even
send
them.
Maybe
you
shouldn't
have
them
it's
a
waste
of
paper
you
all.
You
should
be
ashamed
of
yourselves.
Really
it's!
P
You
should
take
a
good
hard
look
at
yourself
in
the
mirror
and
see
who
you
really
are
and
ask
your
family
members
if
they
like
who
you
are
ask
anybody
if
they
like
who
you
are
you
guys
are
horrible,
you
guys
need
to
be
reevaluated,
you
guys
need
the
public
should
be
way
more
demanding
than
what
within
what
has
even
been
going
on
here
today.
I
want
to
thank
mr
ferguson
for
being
a
polite
man.
Listen
to
mr
ferguson
he's
the
face
of
the
rate
payer
here
in
in
this
county.
P
B
I
want
to
again
thank
mayor,
licardo
and
the
members
of
the
city
council
for
joining
us
today.
These
discussions
have
been
helpful
and,
of
course,
we'll
continue
those
discussions
as
we
go
along
mr
mayor.