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City of San José, California
City Council, Evening Session of March 23, 2021
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B
F
You
have
a
quorum
okay,
as
is
directed
by,
I
believe,
the
rules
committee.
We
are
going
to
interrupt
our
current
schedule
to
jump
in
to
item
3.3,
which
is
a
hearing
on
san
jose
water
company's
proposed
rate.
Increase
is
currently
being
considered
by
the
california
public
utilities.
Commission
I'll
remind
all
the
members
of
the
public
who
may
want
to
weigh
in
on
this.
This
is
not
a
decision
of
the
councils
to
make.
This
is
a
decision
of
the
public
utilities
commissions.
F
Excuse
me,
the
public
utilities,
commission
and
we
are
simply
seeking
information,
and
I
appreciate
the
executives
from
the
san
jose
water
company
coming
to
respond
to
our
questions,
to
allow
us
to
understand
better
what
exactly
is
going
on
and
to
help
us
determine
what
position
if
any
the
city
might
take
in
the
upcoming
rate
case.
So
with
that
I
wanted
to
proceed,
I
believe
now
dave
should
I
be
going
to
carry
on
this
or.
F
A
F
H
Yes,
thank
you
mayor
and
council
members.
We
really
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
come
before
you
tonight
and
share
with
you
some
information
on
san
jose
waters,
general
rate
case
so
that
you
and
and
our
customers
can
learn
more
about
it
and
what
some
of
the
drivers
are
and
happy
to
field
any
questions
that
you
have
as
we
go
along
or
afterwards.
H
We
view
this
as
a
great
opportunity
to
hear
from
you
and
our
customers,
in
addition
to
myself,
john
tang,
our
vice
president
of
regulatory
and
government
affairs
is
here
and
he
will
be
presenting
specific
information
on
the
filing
and
I'm
also
pleased
to
be
joined
by
andy
gear.
The
president
and
chief
operating
officer
of
san
jose
water
and
jake
walsh,
our
assistant
chief
engineer,
who
has
detailed
an
in-depth
knowledge
about
the
infrastructure
program.
That
is
one
of
the
major
drivers
of
our
rate
request.
H
There's
no
doubt
that
the
last
12
months
have
been
a
really
challenging
time
for
all
of
us,
our
customers
and
the
mutual
constituents.
We
serve
we've
been
working
daily
to
help
our
customers
and
support
the
community.
You
know
san
jose
water
company
has
been
part
of
for
154
years
and
despite
those
challenges,
we
remain
committed
to
delivering
on
that
public
health
mission.
That
is
at
the
core
of
what
we
do
and
in
no
time
as
the
delivery
of
safe
and
reliable
drinking
water
and
service
been
more
important
than
during
these
this
past
year.
F
A
F
F
I
I
So
I
hope
I
hope
everyone
can
see
that.
So,
as
many
of
you
know,
we,
you
know
us
as
your
as
your
water
utility
and
I
think
the
conversation
surrounding
san
jose
water
over
these
past
five
years
have
really
centered
on
droughts
and
rates
and
our
roots
run
much
deeper
than
that
and
spans
over
554
years,
as
eric
mentioned,
and
over
that
time,
our
core
values
have
not
changed.
I
We
recognize
that
there
are
many
customers
who
are
impacted
by
the
pandemic.
Our
customer
assistance
programs
are
geared
towards
helping
them
manage
their
consumption
and,
ultimately,
their
bills.
We
also
have
a
special,
low-income
program
for
customers
who
qualify
as
part
of
our
commitment
to
supporting
the
local
community.
We
are
increasing
our
support
of
the
non-profit
organizations
in
serving
our
service
area.
We're
encouraging
our
employees
to
volunteer
in
their
own
backyards
through
our
employee-led
501c3
foundation.
I
I
So
we
have
recently
updated
our
request,
as
required
by
the
puc.
It's
called
the
45
day,
update
after
we
filed
on
january
1st
and
based
on
the
update,
the
impacts
are
noticeably
reduced
from
our
initial
application.
The
2022
increase
is
proposed
at
nine
point
three
six
percent-
and
this
is
inclusive
of
surcharges
and
fees,
some
of
which
are
temporary.
I
The
key
great,
the
key
rate
drivers
are
shown
here.
It's
really
related
to
infrastructure,
which
I'm
going
to
talk
a
lot
more
about
here
in
a
little
bit,
o
m
cost
taxes,
depreciation
and
water
charges.
The
infograph
that
you
see
there
shows
how
every
dollar
we
collect
from
our
customers
is
broken
down,
almost
half
of
it
or
about
45
cents
of
every
dollar
goes
to
pay
for
water
charges
and
taxes,
both
of
which
are
really
beyond
our
control.
I
I
San
jose
the
city
of
san
jose,
is
by
far
the
biggest
portion
of
our
service
area
and
72
miles
of
the
water
mains
proposal
for
replacement
46
of
those
72
miles
or
64
is
within
the
city
limits.
I
understand
that
rate
proposals
are
never
popular
and
that
these
are
difficult
conversations
that
we
are
having.
I
One
of
the
biggest
projects
that
we
have
going
on
right
now
is
our
columbine
tank
replacement.
This
is
a
project
that
is
in
the
near
the
east,
foothills
of
san
jose
off
of
predators,
road
and
we
are
replacing
this
earthen
embankment
reservoir,
which
is
the
picture
you
see
there
on
the
bottom
right
with
two
tanks
to
reliably
serve
the
next
generation.
You
can
see
the
footprint
of
those
two
tanks
being
being
graded
right
now.
I
This
infographic
here
comes
from
our
award-winning
enterprise
asset
management
plan.
This
this
asset
management
plan
was
actually
proposed
with
our
general
rate
case.
Application,
makunda
and
others
from
his
from
his
team,
are
looking
at
this
right
now
very
closely,
and
the
plan
really
provides
a
roadmap
for
where
we
should
be
focusing
our
investments
in
the
coming
years.
I
Any
category
that
shows
an
image
other
than
a
full
moon
or
a
full
circle
points
to
an
area
points
to
areas
where
we
still
have
some
work
to
do
to
ensure
that
we
can
to
ensure
that
we
can
deliver
safe
and
reliable
water
service
for
our
customers.
This
this
includes
our
tanks
and
reservoirs
ground
water
supply
and
water
mains.
I
So
one
of
the
most
maybe
ubiquitous
questions
I
get
asked
and
we
get
asked.
Is
you
know?
Why
are
your
rates
higher
than
other
utilities?
And
I
think
before
I
speak
to
the
chart
this
chart
and
I've
spoken
with
several
of
you
about
this.
Please
know
that
these
charts
that
I'm
about
to
show
you
are
not
very
meaningful.
Every
utility
will
have
different
needs,
depending
on
their
age,
size
and
condition
of
their
water
system.
I
In
fact,
I
really
don't
like
to
present
raid
or
bill
comparisons
like
this,
because
it's
unfair
for
me
to
weigh
in
on
how
any
peer
utility
is
delivering
on
their
mission
simply
by
looking
at
a
bill
comparison-
and
you
know
doing
so-
has
actually
been
perceived
as
calling
out
a
peer.
So
just
full,
you
know
full
disclosure,
I'm
in
no
way
doing
that
and
presenting
information
that
has
been
sought
by
customers
and
actually
this
information
comes
courtesy
of
the
city
of
san
jose.
I
I
So
to
be
fair,
let's
compare
one,
that's
lower.
Let's
talk
about
great
oaks,
water
company
they're
right
at
the
bottom:
there
why?
Why
are
they?
Why
are
they
lower?
And
I
think
a
big
part
of
the
answer
in
that
is
because
great
oaks
enjoys
wholesale
water
rates
from
valley
water.
That
is
one-third
of
what
the
city
of
san
jose
and
san
jose
water
company
case.
I
They
pump
water
from
the
southern
basin
because
their
service
area
covers
the
southern
basin
and
then
they
they
provide
that
to
their
customers
and
that
price
of
water
is
one-third.
What
we
both
pay
for
the
northern
basin
up
here,
similar
to
the
sfp
you
see,
san
jose
water
company,
has
really
been
focused
on
replacing
you
know
our
infrastructure.
Over
the
last
last
10
years,
we
spent
over
a
billion
dollars
over
that
period.
I
We
also
know
that,
looking
ahead
a
little
bit,
we
still
have
some
needs
that
are
that
need
to
be
dealt
with.
There
are
increasingly
stringent
water
quality
requirements
and
we
will
have
to
deal
with
a
forever
chemical
known
as
pfas
and
in
the
near
future.
We
have
found
these
chemicals
in
some
of
our
wells,
not
many,
but
we
have
found
them
in
some
of
our
wells
and
our
customers
sentiments
are
clear.
I
So
here
is
another
slide
that
I
will
speak
to
a
little
bit.
This
shows
how
we
compare
to
other
utilities
here
in
the
area
and
it
the
data,
comes
from
the
comprehensive
annual
financial
reports
from
some
of
these
organizations
to
ensure
a
more
apples-to-apples
comparison.
Adjusted
op-acts
is
defined
as
a
total
operating
expenses,
minus
water
supply,
cost
depreciation,
expense,
taxes
and
other
income
for
the
municipal
water
utilities.
I
You
would
not
expect
to
see
any
taxes
and
so
they're
assumed
to
be
to
be
zero,
so
the
bar
the
bar
chart
on
the
left
provides
for
operations
expenses
in
2015
and
2020..
The
chart
on
the
right
shows
what
the
average
year
over
year
growth
is.
In
that
same
period,
we
did
look
for
san
jose
municipal
water
systems
data,
but
we
not
could
not
replicate
that
from
the
city's
kaffir
report,
so
we
we
left
that
out.
I
I
think
one
of
the
conclusions
that
maybe
you
can
draw
from
this
is
that
san
jose
water
company
is
an
efficient
operator.
I
I'm
not
going
to
draw
a
comparison
between
our
peers
because,
as
the
largest
utility,
I
think
you
would
expect
some
scale
and
some
efficiency,
and
I
think
those
characteristics
are
reflected
here.
This
slide
does
not
mean
that,
nor
am
I
concluding
that
our
peers,
in
palo
alto
mountain
view,
pages
and
sunnyvale
are
inefficient
utilities
by
any
means.
I
F
I
So
so
so
this
is
my
last
slide.
One
of
the
questions
we
were
asked
was
what
other
rate
impacts?
Do
you
anticipate
in
2020
and
and
maybe
I'm
sorry
2021,
I'm
a
year
behind,
2021
and
and
maybe
beyond
so
valley
water?
As
you
know,
I
attended
the
meeting
the
other
day
valley
waters,
looking
at
a
at
a
9.6
increase
for
their
wholesale
water
cost,
which
will
raise,
which
will
result
in
a
three
point.
Three
and
a
half
percent
pass
through
for
us
come
july.
I
First,
if
they,
if
that
is
ultimately
the
the
action
they're
going
to
take.
We
have
a
couple
of
advice,
letter
projects
that
are
smaller.
It's
going
to
be
less
than
a
half
a
percent
increase
for
both
of
them
combined,
we're
finishing
those
up.
These
were
previously
approved
projects
that
were
that
we're
finishing
up.
We
have
our
smart
meter
application
that
is
in
process
right
now.
I
I
So
we
will
be
filing
that
application
on
may
1st
or
the
first
business
day
after
may
1st
in
2021,
and
that
will
be
a
another
notice
to
our
customers
and
those
in
this
increase
will
be
and
not
be
effective
until
2022..
So
that
really
concludes
concludes
my
slides.
I'd
like
to
hand
it
off
to
andy
for
some
closing
remarks.
J
J
You
know
I'm
really
proud
to
report
that
our
water
system
has
performed
exceptionally
well
throughout
these
as
a
result
of
our
1
billion
dollars
in
system
improvements
made
over
the
past
decade,
where
we've
replaced
wells,
tanks,
emergency
generators
and
water
mains,
the
need
for
infrastructure
improvements
is
impacting
the
entire
industry,
the
us
epa
and
the
american
water
works
association,
along
with
the
american
society
of
civil
engineers.
All
speak
at
length
about
these
challenges.
J
San
jose
water
is
not
immune
to
them
and
we're
working
to
address
these
challenges
through
our
filings
with
the
california
public
utilities.
Commission
there's
ample
evidence
of
the
harm
caused
by
deferred
maintenance
and
the
tremendous
collective
risks
that
we
all
face
due
to
the
failure
to
invest
in
improving
our
infrastructure,
and
no.
This
is
a
really
difficult
time
and
absolutely
we'll
continue
to
support
our
customers,
communities
where
we
work
live
and
serve.
We
also
remain
committed
to
delivering
on
the
public
health
mission
to
deliver
safe
and
reliable
water
service
to
everyone.
Thank
you.
F
Thank
you,
gentlemen.
Thank
you
for
the
presentation.
We
appreciate
that
you
don't
have
to
be
here.
You
came
at
our
invitation
and
I
appreciate
you
wanting
us
to
share
information
and
respond
to
our
questions
and
from
the
ratepayer
advocates
office
is
ting.
Bong
you
win
ping
pong.
Would
you
like
to
say
a
few
words.
A
Yes
good
evening,
mayor
lecato
vice
mayor
jones,
city,
council,
members
and
members
of
the
public,
my
name
is
ting
pong
yuan
and
I'm
here
tonight
representing
the
public
advocates
office
at
the
california
public
utilities.
Commission,
the
public
advocates
office
is
an
independent
organization
within
the
california
public
utilities.
Commission,
our
statutory
mission
is
to
obtain
the
lowest
possible
utility
rates
for
customers
consistent
with
safe,
reliable
service
and
the
state's
environmental
goals.
A
We
also
strive
to
ensure
that
no
one
is
left
behind
and
that
all
communities
have
access
to
safe
and
affordable
electric
gas,
water
and
communications
utility
services.
I'm
the
lead
coordinator
in
the
current
san
jose
water
company
general
ray
case
and
with
me
tonight
is
makunda
dawadi,
the
oversight
supervisor
of
the
case.
A
Our
team
is
in
the
process
now
of
reviewing
and
the
of
the
general
ray
case
application
to
determine
the
fair,
just
and
reasonable
expenses
and
water
rates
paid
by
the
san
jose
customers.
Once
we,
our
analysis
and
recommendations
are
finalized.
A
public
report
will
be
available
for
you
to
review
our
recommendations.
A
Subject
to
the
commission's
finalizing
the
schedule
for
the
proceeding.
We
anticipate
to
file
our
public
report
sometime
in
mid-may
and
post
it
on
the
commission's
website
and
I'm
very
pleased,
so
many
of
you
are
participating
and
attending
this
meeting
tonight.
Your
presence
here
is
very
significant
to
us
and
we
are
looking
forward
to
listening
to
your
comments
and
concerns
with
that
said.
I
want
to
emphasize
now
that
this
is
your
meeting
to
lend
your
voice
and
opinions
and
raise
your
concerns.
F
G
Yeah
hi,
thank
you,
blair,
beekman,
here
boy,
I'm
learning,
hopefully
how
to
better
talk
about
this
subject.
Thank
you
for
these
reports
and
that
you'll
have
a
final
public
report.
In
may
you
know
I've
been
looking
into
and
working
with
local
east
bay,
community
energy
practices
the
past
year
and
they
developed
a
really
incredible
subsidy
plan
to
basically
have
100
almost
100
renewables
in
their
energy
portfolio.
G
You
know
that
that
that
you
know
can
help
both
low
income
and
and
and
high
income
people,
and
they
use
a
subsidy
plan
that
low-income
people
do
not
have
to
pay.
You
know
fees,
they
don't
have
to
pay
rate
increases
to
get
to
the
100
level
of
renewable
energy
use
and
it's
been
a
fairly
good
system.
It's
the
question
of.
Do
you
want
to
trust
the
subsidy
process
and
that's
the
big
question
san
jose
has
to
ask
themselves
at
this
time
with
not
just
water
with
garbage
and
with
their
own
electricity
future.
G
So
you
know
good
luck
in
how
you're
going
to
talk
about
this
in
the
future,
and
good
luck
in
what
I've
been
learning
is
having
good
accounting
books
at
this
time.
Can
is
your
ledgers
in
good
shape
at
this
time?
If
that's
the
case,
then
maybe
we
don't
have
to
go
into
a
subsidy
plan,
but
if
we
do
go,
do
it
with
full
love,
you
know
and
really
give
full.
You
know
forgiveness,
basically
to
low-income
people,
so
they
don't
have
to
have
any
sort
of
rate
increase
in
the
future.
G
That
should
be
the
goal.
No
rate
increases
at
all
during
this
very
difficult
time,
we're
in
for
low-income
people
and
have
high
income
people
who
are
doing
fairly
okay.
They
can
pay
a
higher
price,
and
that
seems
to
be
the
the
understanding.
It's
yourselves
to
learn
how
to
talk
about
that
with
us
and
make
it
an
open
subject,
and
none
of
us
fear
talking
about
it
and
we
all.
F
E
K
F
F
Problem:
okay,
given
the
fact
that
we
do
have
a
very
substantial
schedule
to
get
through
before
midnight
tonight,
I'm
going
to
ask
all
of
our
public
speakers
to
limit
themselves
to
one
minute,
so
we
can
make
sure
we
can
get
to
all
the
public
speakers.
I
know
who
want
to
speak
on
the
subsequent
items
as
well.
The
person
with
the
phone
number
ending
5140.
A
A
Speech
about
about
your
your
values
is
values
10
charging,
someone
10
more,
you
know
I
knew
a
man
who
passed
away
not
long
ago.
You
know
what
he
did
before
he
left
for
the
hospital
he
had
to
turn
his
water
off,
because
he
thought
he
thought
something
that
you
guys
were
over
charging
him
which
ended
up
happening.
A
A
The
company
has
delivered
safe,
high
quality
and
reliable
water
service
to
the
valley
since
1866
today,
san
jose
water
is
responsible
for
more
than
2
400
miles
of
pipes
and
other
critical
water
infrastructure,
much
of
which
was
constructed
over
50
years
ago.
More
than
one
billion
dollars
in
system
improvements
have
been
so
far
been
spent
in
the
last
decade,
and
additional
investments
require
increases
in
water
rates
to
help
pay
for
continued
system
improvements.
J
E
A
A
John
and
eric
thornsberg,
I
was
wanting
to
compare
the
your
ami
automatic
meters
with
this
rate
increase,
and
you
know
you
gave
a
lot
of
information
in
new
terms
and
I'm
fairly
informed
about
it,
and
I
didn't
recognize
a
lot
of
it.
It
came
too
fast,
but
you
did
mention
about
a
one
percent
increase
for
your
automatic
meters
and
the
way
I
look
at
it
in
your
filings.
It
looks
like
it's
96
million
for
the.
J
F
A
Hi,
can
you
hear
me
okay?
Yes,
we
can
hear
you
fantastic.
Thank
you
for
letting
us
speak
a
couple
different
things.
First
of
all,
the
question
would
be
to
san
jose
water.
Is
you
don't
absorb
any
of
the
costs
of
the
20
of
the
people
in
san
jose
that
aren't
paying
their
bills?
So
you
talk
about
these
programs,
as
as
you
guys
having
this
outreach,
I'm
not
sure
that
that's
actually
the
case,
I
think
san
jose
is
paying
the
cost
of
those
20
of
the
people
that
aren't
paying
their
bills.
A
Second
thing
is:
is
you
didn't
talk
about
any
of
your
operations
outside
the
state
that
you're
subsidizing
with
san
jose
money,
including
operations
in
connecticut
and
texas?
And
third
thing?
Is
I
don't
understand
how
a
smart
meter
should
be
something
we
should
pay
for
when
it's
a
cost
efficiency
for
you,
and
why
is
that
continuing
to
be
burned
on
the
taxpayer
on
the
the
ratepayer?
A
J
F
F
Definitely
you
want
me
to
run
down
them.
I
I
know
that
one
of
the
questions
that
came
out
very
clearly
was
about
smart
meters.
Clearly
there
is
an
application,
I
think
was
in
2019
to
increase
rates
to
pay
for
the
smart
or
the
ami.
I
believe
this
is
referred
to
and
if
they
provide
cost
efficiencies
for
you,
why
is
that
going
to
the
right
rate
payers?
I
think
obviously
the
assumption
is
that
there's
some
cost
efficiency
for
you.
A
Well,
you
know
it's
like
I
could
take
down
the
question,
because
what
happened
is
I
didn't
participate
in
that
proceeding?
It's
a
separate
proceeding
at
this
point.
We
are
waiting
for
the
decision
to
come
out,
so
I'm
not
sure
what
is
going
to
be
the
final
outcome
at
this
point,
and
I
don't
want
to
exactly
what
happened
so.
A
F
I
Yes,
thank
thank
you
mayor.
I
was
going
to
interrupt.
I
I
figure
I
better,
not
just
culturally.
That's
that's
what
I
was
taught
so
thank
you
for
thank
you
for
helping
me
out
there,
so
so
the
ami
meters
as
we
propose
them,
it's
really
a
it's
really
a
project
that
was
very
well
vetted
through
a
business
plan
that
we
prepared
and
essentially
a
business
plan,
has
a
cost
benefit
analysis.
I
So
the
driving
force
of
that
application
is
really
the
water
use
standards
that
are
going
to
be
coming
into
effect.
On
january,
1st
2025.,
as
you
know,
the
state
water
board
has
set
water
use
limits
both
indoor
well
right
now,
it's
just
indoor,
but
they
will
be
setting
water
use
limits
for
outdoor
too,
and
so
all
the
utilities,
including
the
municipal
water
system,
are
going
to
be
looking
at.
I
I
think
criticisms
we
had
during
the
last
round,
where
you
know
we
had
water
budgets,
but
there
was
really
no
way
for
customers
to
get
daily
reads
of
their
meters
so
that
they
can
figure
out
what
their
consumption
is,
how
much
they
were
going.
You
know
towards
the
the
budget
that
they
were
allocated,
so
the
business
plan
for
this
ami
case
really
rests
on
what
it
would
cost
us
if
we
didn't
have
ami,
if
we
were
to
provide
the
customers
the
same
data
that
ami
would
provide.
I
You
know
based
on
you,
know,
manual,
meter
reading,
which
is
currently
what
we
have,
and
so
that
analysis
was
submitted
to
the
public
advocates
office.
They
are
currently
reviewing
it
right
now,
as
ting
said,
and
we
found
our.
Our
conclusion
is
that
there
was
a
lot
of
benefit,
a
savings
from
that
and
the
savings
is
going
to
come
from
avoided
costs.
I
For
you
know
the
meter
reading
the
additional
meter
reading
other
expenses
that
we
would
have
to
do
to
make
sure
that
customers
have
the
same
information
that
ami
would
would
provide.
So
that's
really
what
we're
talking
about
in
terms
of
that
application,
the
rate
impacts,
as
I
mentioned,
and
I'm
sorry.
I
went
through
my
application
very
fast.
I
know
we
only
had
my
presentation
very
fast.
We
only
had
10
minutes
from
what
I
understand
from
your
staff.
I
F
F
F
A
Services,
yeah,
that's
the
case,
so
the
john
I'm
sorry
mayor,
jeff,
propanzano,
deputy
director
esd,
so
the
information
mayor
that
was
provided
to
you
was
from
their
business
case.
I
talked
about
the
increase
in
cost.
I
believe
what
john
is
saying
is
that
in
looking
at
an
analysis
of
to
get
to
that
level
of
service,
whether
to
do
it
by
by
by
person
or
by
technology,
it's
actually
cheaper
to
implement
the
technology,
but
it
is
still
an
increase
in
cost
over
where
what
they're
doing
now?
John?
A
I
A
Sure
you
know-
and
I
can
try
to
bring
up
some
of
my
information
too,
and
it
was
in
their
business
case.
They
talked
about
the
the
additional
cost
increase,
the
additional
revenue
that
would
be
the
additional
cost
and
the
revenue
that
would
be
associated
with
that
cost.
I
believe
what
john
is
saying
is
that,
in
order
to
up
the
level
of
service
by
what
they're
doing
now,
it
would
cost
more
money
than
if
they
did
ami
so
they're.
A
Looking
at,
I
think,
with
john's
case,
and
he
was
advocating-
and
I
do
agree
on
on
the
state
standards
and
the
the
benefits
of
adding
more
knowledge
into
customers
hands
there
is
a
cost
increase.
Coming.
I
think
john's
case
was
that
it's
cheap,
it's
a
lesser
of
a
cost
increase
to
do
the
technology
than
it
is
to
add
in
more
manual
labor.
I
So
so
mayor,
if
I
can
weigh
in
here,
I'm
sharing
my
screen
with
everybody.
I
hope
it's
bigger
this
time.
I've
learned
my
lesson.
Thank
you
yeah,
and
so
this
is
from
page
19
of
our
application
191202,
and
you
can
see
the
language
right
here
in
part
b
of
what
the
proposed
revenue
requirement
increases
for
2021,
22,
23
and
24.
Obviously,
the
decision
is
is
not
in
hand
yet,
and
so
we
filed
this.
I
You
know
obviously
in
2019,
so
about
a
year
and
a
half
ago,
it's
taking
longer
to
process
just
like
everything
else
is
understandably
because
of
covid,
but
this
is
the
this
is
what's
in
our
application
and
that's
where
I
got
the
kind
of
the
less
than
one
percent
on
average
over
the
next
four
years.
Okay,.
F
Then,
secondly,
I
could
just
to
build
on
that.
Based
on
what
you
did
present
john,
it
sounds
as
though
we
can
anticipate
an
aggregate
increase
on
average
of
about
14
this
year.
If
we
were
to
include
the
nine
point,
almost
nine
point:
four
percent,
that's
in
your
rate
case,
plus
what
you
anticipate
that
roughly
three
and
a
half
to
account
for
valley
waters,
wholesale
increase,
plus
these
smaller
increases
related
to
advanced
engineering
infrastructure
in
the
other
two
projects
and
we're
right
in
believing
it's
somewhere
around
14
this
year.
I
It
will
very
be
very
likely
that
they
will
disallow
some
capital
projects,
in
which
case
that
9.76
or
the
9
that
we
that
we
have
put
in
the
slide
deck
is
really
the
ceiling
it
will
likely
be
lower
than
that,
and
I
don't
want
to
get
ahead
of
their
process.
But
that's
that's
what
we're
looking
at
right.
F
So
if,
if
we
go
back
to
the
slide
that
you
showed
at
the
very
beginning
where
you
showed
that
I
think
it
was
a
dollar
bill
and
different
portions
of
that
yeah,
the
cost
and
capital
was
already
included
in
the
rate
case,
as
I
understood
some
amount
of
capital
infrastructure,
but
at
the
same
time,
under
the
puc
rules.
My
understanding
is
every
three
years
go:
get
a
cost
of
capital
rate
adjustment,
I'm
not
sure
what
exactly
the
technical
term
is,
but
you
get
increase
the
rate
for
the
cost
of
capital.
I
Yeah,
so
so
that's
that's
a
very
good
question.
So
at
the
cpuc,
the
casa
capital
and
the
rate
case,
the
general
ray
case
are
two
different
proceedings.
It
just
so
happens
that
this
year,
because
of
the
one
year
year,
deferment
that
we
got
it
is
going
to
be,
is
going
to
be
concurrently
processed
this
year.
So
there'll
be
two
applications
this
year,
one
in
january
for
a
grc
and
one
for
the
cost
of
capital.
They
are
independent,
but
certainly
certainly
related.
I
We
have
a
cost
of
capital
now
that
is
embedded
in
rates
and
if
that
cost
of
capital
that
we're
gonna
file
for
in
may
is
reduced
or
increased.
That
will
be
reflected
in
the
new
rates
when
we
get
him
in
effect,
in
2022,
I'd
like
to
also
say
that
during
the
last
casa
capital
filing,
we
did
go
in
seeking
an
increase,
and
ultimately
the
public
utilities
commission
delivered
a
decrease
for
all
of
the
utilities.
I
It's
a
joint
application
with
three
other
class,
a
water
utilities,
large
utilities
in
california,
and
so
the
last
time
we
went
through
this
in
2017,
I
believe
in
2018
we
got
a
decision
and
was
a
rate
decrease
and
we
passed
that
rate
decrease
through
through
an
advice
letter
and
obviously
we
notified
the
parties,
including
yourself
as
well.
So.
F
I
Yeah,
no,
I
I
totally
get
it
mayor
rate
making
cannot
be
explained
in
in
talking
points
as
I've
mentioned
to
you.
So
I
really
appreciate
really
appreciate
your
questions.
It's
the
same
capital.
All
we're
doing
is
changing
the
cost
of
that
capital.
So
imagine
your
your
home
and
the
mortgage
that
you
own
on
that.
It's
the
same
mortgage
that
you're
going
to
own
on
that,
except
all
you're
doing,
is
reducing
or
increasing.
Well.
F
I
On
that
note
mayor,
if
I
can
say
obviously
every
time
we
send
out
a
notice,
you
know
whether
it's
required
or
not
by
the
puc
of
a
potential
rate
increase.
You
know
you,
you
obviously
get
get
mail
and
you
get.
You
know
you
get
correspondence
from
your
from
your
constituents.
I
I
do
want
to
just
mention
again
that
we
are
going
to
file
this
application
on
may.
First,
we
are
required
to
do
so,
and
so
there
will
be
a
rate
increase
notice.
I
F
M
Thank
you
mayor.
I
you
know,
I
I
think
you
covered
what
I
was
wondering
about
and-
and
I
heard
I
heard,
I
think
it
was
john
that
you
had
mentioned
how
I
think
it
was
you
how
valley
waters
wholesale
rate
increases
your
rates,
and
so
if
we
could
just
explain
that
a
little
further,
so
our
residents
can
understand
and
just
follow,
follow
the
cookie
trail.
If
you
will
on
that.
I
F
I
Sorry,
sorry,
mary
sorry,
council
member
arena
said
that
won't
be
the
last
time
that
I
do
that.
So
I'm
sharing
my
screen
with
you
now.
This
is
a
slide
that
I
think
you
were
referring
to.
So
every
dollar,
essentially
we
collect
from
our
customers.
38
cents
is
remitted
to
valley
water,
for
the
purchase
of
wholesale
water
supply
and
so
think
about,
let's
think
about
a
40
cent
slice
of
the
pie
just
to
make
it
nice
and
round.
I
H
J
H
J
Happy
to
eric
thanks,
yeah,
so
so
valley,
waters
role
is
really
there,
the
wholesale
water
agency
for
the
county
and
what
they
do
is
sort
of
two
things.
They
provide
treated
surface
water
through
their
three
treatment
plants
and
that's
both
water
that
they
collect
in
local
reservoirs,
as
well
as
water
that
the
import
from
the
central
valley
project
in
the
state
water
project
and
also
for
pumping
the
groundwater
basin.
J
We
have
wells
in
the
groundwater
basin,
but
we
pay
them
a
fee
to
extract
that
water
and
the
water
that
we
get
from
their
treatment
plants
and
the
water
that
we
get
from
the
ground.
Water
wells
is
effectively
at
the
same
cost.
But
that's
you
know
in
any,
given
year,
that's
90
to
95
of
the
water
that
we
deliver
to
our
customers.
J
They
are
also
doing
an
infrastructure
program
to
ensure
water
supply
and
water.
Reliability,
you
may
have
seen
some
news
about
anderson
dam.
It's
one
of
their
biggest
projects,
it's
their
their
largest
water
right
and
their
largest
local
reservoir
and
they're
having
to
rebuild
that
dam
for
seismic
safety.
That's
all
baked
into
that
wholesale
water
rate,
as
well
as
cost
at
their
treatment
plants,
any
of
the
costs
that
are
passed
on
by
the
state
or
federal
water
project
so
that
all
gets
baked
into
that
40
cents
on
the
dollar.
J
M
Right,
thank
you
thank
you,
andy
and
which
leads
me
to
my
next
question.
What
would
your
your
position
be?
I
know
that
in
our
meeting
last
friday,
it
was
a
study
session
and
it
was
meeting
as
well
a
joint
meeting
with
valley
water,
and
you
heard,
if
you
had
attended
for
many
of
our
residents,
how
not
appropriate
it
is
to
increase
water
rates
in
this
very
difficult
time.
For
many
of
our
community
san
jose
water
in
my
district
covers
one
of
the
most
hardest.
M
J
Yeah,
so
so
one
of
the
things
I
just
want
to
point
out
is
that
you
know
valley.
Waters
board
chose
not
to
raise
rates
last
year
in
the
last
fiscal
year,
and
this
has
actually
resulted
in
a
higher
increase
this
year,
so
they
sort
of
kicked
the
can
down
the
road
a
little
bit
and,
and
now
the
proposed
rate
is
that
much
higher
because
of
it.
You
know,
I
think
that
we
support
you,
know
the
the
investments
they're
making
in
the
critical
infrastructure.
J
I
think
we
may
disagree
with
valley
on
some
of
the
water
supply
projects
which
are
sort
of
future
projects
that
they're
investing
in,
and
so
you
know
it's
kind
of
a
mixed
deal.
Unfortunately,
the
way
the
the
valley
water
board
operates
is
they
sort
of
take
a
proposal
and
they
vote
on
it.
We
have
kind
of
weighed
in
very
closely
on
you
know
which
projects
we
think
make
a
lot
of
sense.
We
think
anderson
reservoir,
for
example,
is
critical.
It
was
a
both
a
public
safety
risk
and
also
a
water
supply
issue.
J
M
M
I
know
we
kicked
the
can
down
the
road,
but
at
the
same
time,
there's
a
lot
of
choices
that
a
board
can
make
in
terms
of
their
investment
and
the
number
of
projects
that
they
can
have,
and
when
we
take
a
look
at
our
own
city,
the
number
of
projects
that
we
can
take
on
as
well.
We
have
to
make
those
really
tough
decisions.
The
decisions
that
we
can't
that
that
really
impact
us
are
the
decisions
that
that
support
our
community,
and
that
means
shutting
down
libraries
shunning
down
community
centers.
M
You
know
things
of
that
sort
that
families,
when
they
don't
have
enough
money
in
their
pockets,
are
looking
to
us
to
help
support
them.
So
I
would
ask
you
the
same
and
your
company
to
do
the
same
thing
that
I
will
ask,
and
I've
been
asking
for
the
valley
water
to
do,
and
that
is
to
put
a
hold
on
your
infrastructure
costs
are
costs
that
you
can
actually
delay
and
that
don't
impact
the
supply
of
water.
Thank
you
and,
and
I'd
also
like
to
move
the
mayor's
memo.
E
L
Thank
you
mayor
and
thanks
to
eric
andy,
john
jake
and
the
rest
of
the
team
for
being
here.
I
know
you
don't
have
to
be
here,
but
I
think
it's
really
important
for
building
public
trust
and-
and
I
appreciate
it-
I
also
just
want
to
quickly
thank
the
members
of
the
public
who
spoke.
I
know
some
of
whom
were
our
district
10
residents
and
a
number
of
residents
I've
represent.
L
So
I
think
what
what
I'm
hearing
from
residents
is
is
really
just
you
know,
confusion
about
the
the
magnitude
of
the
increase,
the
the
way
it's
structured
where
it's
it's
looks
like
it's
largely
front
loaded
where
the
money's
going
and
what
they
get
for
it
right,
I
think,
there's
a
real
concern
about.
Are
they
protected
in
the
sense
of
the
value
generated
by
the
increase?
Is
it
staying
in
the
community?
L
L
I
have
a
few
questions
come
along
those
lines
and
I
think
ultimately-
and
this
is,
I
think,
the
point
of
the
hearing
today-
I
think
what
people
are
really
asking
for
is
just
a
high
degree
of
transparency,
and
then
you
know
accountability
for
where
the
money
is
supposed
to
go,
so
that
they
can
feel
confident
that
the
increased
costs
that
they're
bearing
that
are
going
up
faster
than
inflation
faster
than
incomes
for
a
lot
of
folks,
is
actually
necessary
and
going
to
make
their
lives
better.
So
I
guess
maybe
we
can.
L
I
don't
know
if
you
john
want
to
put
up
the
your
your
dollar
graphic
again
or
not,
but
I
I
think
you
know
one
question.
I've
heard
a
lot
is
you
know
knowing
that
you
have
a
holding
a
parent
company,
that's
a
holding
company
and
you
have
some
sister
companies
how
how
much
of
the
rate
increase
can
or
or
do
you
think
will
go
back
up
to
the
holding
company.
L
F
I
Yeah
yeah,
no,
I
I
I
think
it
does
matt.
Obviously
you
know
san
jose
water
is
owned
by
our
parent
company
sjw
group,
and
so
there
is
some.
There
is
some
outflow
of
capital
up
to
up
to
sjw
group
and
that's
really
in
our
return
on
equity,
which
is
a
component
of
our
cost
of
debt.
The
cost
of
debt
includes
both
equity
and
and
debt,
and
we're
going
to
be
going
through
that
process
soon,
with
our
costs
cost
of
capital
filing.
I
I
don't
have
the
number
for
you
in
terms
of
like
you
know
how
much
flows
to
you
know
to
our
parent.
You
know
it
it's
something
that
I
can
certainly
get
back,
get
back
with
you
on
and
council
member.
I
certainly
welcome
the
opportunity
to
get
in
front
of
that
water
working
group
as
as
we've
talked,
and
you
know,
present
our
information
and
just
have
a
frank
conversation
that
I
find
that
those
are
the
best
ways
to
have
a
conversation
about
this.
I
You
know
you
and
I
have
had
conversations
about
it
and
I
think
every
time
you
come
away
you
you
either
hate
me
for
for
giving
you
all
of
that
information
or
are
you
you
know
you
say
wow
I
have.
Maybe
you
know
a
slightly
different
perspective
than
than
what
came
in
and
that's
all
I
can
really
ask,
is
just
for
an
opportunity
to
have
that
dialogue.
L
L
You
know
I'm
generally
a
good
student,
but
that
was
even
that
was
kind
of
pushing
it,
but
okay,
so
that
would
be
within
your
cost
of
capital,
which
is
about
10
cents
on
the
dollar,
and
then
you
know
I
get
a
lot
of
questions.
Okay,
well,
executive
compensation
again.
This
is
in
the
spirit
of
if
my
rates
are
going
up
14
next
year,
how
much
of
that's
actually
going
to
the
infrastructure
to
basically
safe,
reliable
water
for
me
and
my
family
versus
shareholders,
executive
compensation,
etc.
I
L
Okay
and
then
this
increase
is
not
restricted,
so
you
know
often
when
we
go
to
the
voters
for
a
like
a
bond
or
a
new
tax.
It's
often
we
promise
exactly
where
it's
going.
This
is
not
restricted
to
infrastructure
right.
This
just
kind
of
goes
into
your.
The
equivalent
of
your
general
fund
is
that
right.
I
I
Obviously,
life
happens
when
you
plan
right,
and
so
you
know,
if
you
don't
do
project
a
you're
going
to
do
project
b,
because
project
d
failed
first
and
project
a
is
going
to
be
deferred
until
you
know
the
next
time.
So
there's
some
flexibility
there,
but
pretty
much.
We
do
what
we
have.
What
we
have
put
in
our
in
our
capital
proposals,
subject
to
the
approval
of
the
public
utilities.
Commission.
I
So
so
it
okay,
I'm
gonna,
have
to
get
into
the
weeds
a
little
bit
so
previously
in
in
prior
rate
case
applications.
The
public
advocates
office
and
the
public
utilities.
Commission
really
has
looked
at
our
application
and
said:
okay,
you've,
given
us,
I'm
just
going
to
use
a
number
you've
given
us
100
projects.
These
are
the
100
projects
that
you're
going
to
do.
We
don't
think
these
30
projects
are
good.
I
We
think
you
should
hold
off,
we,
we
don't
approve
them,
and
so
you
do
these
70
projects
and
and
in
the
past
we've
done
pretty
much.
You
know
the
majority
of
those
70
projects
other
than
when
life
happens,
and
you
know
a
project
fails
and
you
gotta
accelerate
that
replacement,
so
we
kind
of
substitute
it
in
and
out.
So
that's
what
we've
done
in
the
past
in
this
last
rate
case
application.
What
the
public
utilities
commission
authorized
us
to
do
was
they
said?
Okay,
we're
going
to
give
you
a
budget.
I
You
make
that
budget
go
essentially
as
far
as
you
can
stretch
that
budget.
As
far
as
you
can
complete
as
many
projects
as
you
can,
based
on
your
needs,
based
on
your
asset
management
plan,
needs
based
on
your
system,
needs
to
deliver
safe
and
reliable
service,
and
so
that's
what
we
that's
what
we
have
done.
It
remains
to
be
seen
how
the
public
advocates
will
weigh
in
on
this
rate,
application,
whether
they
will
do
the
same
thing
or
whether
they
will
you
know,
take
each
project
individually
and
say
you
know
this
is
good.
L
Okay,
but
it's
not
technically
restricted,
so
I
guess
that
kind
of
leads
to
two
questions.
One
is
just
on
the
list
of
projects.
Are
you
planning
and
would
you
be
willing
to
present
to
to
give
to
the
public
the
itemized
list,
with
the
price
tag
and
then
report
out?
Is
that
part
of
your
normal
operating
procedure?
Is
that
something
you'd
be
you
do
if
not.
I
A
A
With
the
estimated
cost
that
we,
you
know,
the
best
costs
that
we
know
to
date.
These
are
based
on
planning
level
estimates
as
we
have
surveys
and
full
designs,
costs
change
and,
as
john
said,
we
have
to
sometimes
adapt
and
we
have
to
defer
other
projects
if
some
costs
or
some
projects
come
in
more
costly.
A
H
F
L
L
A
A
So
when
you
start
getting
into
kind
of
the
impact
and
the
benefit
to
customers,
it
gets
a
little
bit
more
challenging.
But
if
you're
just
talking
about
where
the
asset
is
constructed,
you
know
that
that's
very
something
we
can
easily
present
and
share
certain
assets
that
you
know,
for
example,
acoustic
leak,
detection,
sensors.
L
Okay
yeah,
I
think
that
would
be
helpful
and
then
just
back
to
the
relationship
you
have
with
your
parent
company.
I
guess
the
the
other
question
that
your
previous
comment
brought
to
mind.
John,
is
just
how
much
of
this
rate
increase
might
go
to
paying
down
debts
from
the
acquisition
of
other
companies
in
other
regions.
I
Yeah,
so
so
I
I
think
I'll
take
a
crack
at
it.
Eric
I'd
love
for
you
to
weigh
in
if
I'm,
if
I'm
veering
off
track
here,
so
so
a
water
utility
operation,
a
water
system,
is
very
much
a
localized
entity.
Right,
I
mean
we're
there,
there's
no
really
mixing
in
terms
of
expenses
and
and
other
things,
projects
with
you
know,
with
connecticut
with
texas,
with
with
maine
what
we
do
have
as
a
result
of
the
combination.
I
To
be
honest
with
you,
and
this
really
played
out
during
the
the
storm
that
we
just
experienced
in
texas
in
the
south,
is
we
have
a
greater
pool
of
resources
that
we
can
draw
on
to
help
all
of
our
subsidiaries
weather
these
difficult
times?
All
of
the
subsidiaries
stood
up
and
helped
our
texas
utility,
I'm
sure
you've
heard
the
horror
stories
over
there.
You
know
I'm
sure
you've
heard
about
jackson
mississippi
and
how
they
were
without
water.
I
H
Council,
council,
member
man,
I
really
appreciate
the
question
and
we
do
get
it
a
lot.
There
is
no
subsidization
from
california
to
connecticut
to
texas
to
maine.
Each
operation
stands
on
its
own.
We
are
able
to
share
certain
costs
like
an
accounting
department
that
produces
financial
statements,
so
we
can
actually
allocate
expenses
that
would
typically
have
been
borne
by
california
customers
now
to
other
states
that
comes
out
of
the
revenue
requirement
for
our
california
customers,
and
then
those
other
states
would
pick
up
those
costs.
H
So
in
fact
we
have
a
a
work
paper
in
this
rate
case
that
shows
exactly
what
that
was
in
2020
and
what
it
looks
like
in
future
years.
So
actually
it's
lowering
costs
to
california
customers
because
of
the
the
broader
scale
that
we
have
someone
like
me.
My
salary
used
to
be
allocated
across
california
and
texas,
and
so
now
we
have
another
160
000
customers
over
which
you
know
common
costs
such
as
myself
at
the
parent
level,
can
be
recovered
through
our
businesses.
L
Thank
you
it's
okay,
so
that's
good
to
hear
so.
You've
got
some
economies
of
scale
at
kind
of
an
administrative
level
that
spread
across
more
ratepayers.
I
think
I
get
that
that
sounds
good
john.
You
made
I'll
admit.
You
made
me
a
little
nervous
there
when
you
mention
texas,
because
as
much
as
I
you
know
I'm
concerned
about
the
people
of
texas,
when
you
say
we
can
pool
resources
in
an
emergency,
I
think
what
residents
want
to
be
sure
of
is
that
there
is
no
subsidization,
which
is
what
I
think
I
heard
eric
just
say.
L
H
That's
correct:
in
fact,
we
committed
in
regulatory
proceedings
to
establish
what's
called
ring,
fencing,
which
is
a
boundary
that
specifically
sets
off
and
and
precludes
the
commingling
of
of
cash
and
funds,
if
you
will
at
the
at
the
operating
level,
so
it
it's
an
intentional
protection
from
one
state
to
the
next,
and
we
very
gladly
opposed
it
and
agreed
to
it.
What
john
was
really
talking
about
is
mutual
aid
and
that's
what
our
employees
came
to
the
aid
of
customers
of
ours
in
texas.
H
L
Sure
sure,
okay,
all
right
well,
that
that
sounds
good
thanks
and
then
we
talked
a
bit
about
the
total
rates
rate
rate
increases
that
can
be
applied
for
the
mayor
had
a
series
of
questions
there.
I
found
interesting.
I
I
guess
the
the
remaining
question
I
have
on
just
the
sheer
scale
of
the
rate
increase
is
why
it's
why
it
seems
to
be
so
front
loaded
and
that
you
know
your
initial
application.
L
I
think,
gave
us
all
sticker
shock
and
then
it
was
nice
to
see
it
come
down
a
bit,
but
frankly,
14
next
year
is
is
going
to
be
hard
on
a
lot
of
people.
So
what
why
can
that
be
smoothed
out?
I
think
that
the
average
of
at
least
this
rate
application
would
be
closer
to
5.75
percent.
Still,
you
know
quite
a
bit
higher
than
inflation.
I
think,
but
what's
yeah
can
you?
Why
is
it
front
load.
I
Yeah
so
I'll
I'll
take
a
crack
at
that,
so
I
I
think
that's
really
a
a
regulatory
process
that
we
go
to.
We,
the
san
jose
water
company,
only
sets
rates
really
once
every
three
years
we
go
through
this
process
once
every
three
years
with
the
public
utilities.
Commission,
that's
why
it
takes.
You
know,
14
months
for
us
to
go
through
this
process.
That's
why
it's
so
comprehensive!
I
That's
why
our
filing
council,
member
van,
is
not
just
6
000
pages
in
the
in
the
report
that
I
mentioned,
but
it's
about
10,
000
pages
altogether
and
and
the
public
advocates
office.
I
can
assure
you
and
and
ting
my
counterpart
is
there
and
he
can
confirm
I.
I
am
fairly
certain
that
they
are
looking
through
every
single
one
of
those
pages
and
making
sure
that
you
know
what
we're
proposing
is:
is
justin
and
reasonable.
I
So
when
you
have
a
when
you
have
a
rate
case
that
sets
rates
essentially
for
the
following
three
year
period,
and
then
you
have
a
14
month,
call
it
12
to
14
month
processing
period
for
that
you're,
really
looking
at
rates
that
are
four
years
old.
When
you
get
out
to
the
end
of
that
cycle-
and
so
you
know,
rates
are
rate,
setting
is
a
forward-looking
endeavor
and
predicting
something
that's
going
to
happen.
I
You
know
two
three
four
years
from
now
is
just
not
something
that
we
can
do
very
well,
you
know,
and
so
essentially
what
happens
is
when
you
go
in
for
a
rate
case.
What
you're
doing
is
you're
truing
up
everything
again
in
that
first
year,
right
so
you're,
going
to
true
up
everything
from
the
last
three
year
cycle
in
that
first
year,
the
out
years,
the
second
and
third
years
are
really
just
escalation
years.
I
I
You
mentioned
how
water
rates
are
rising
faster
than
inflation,
and,
and
you
know,
I
think
I
think,
if
you
do
a
google
search
for
water
rates
rising
faster
than
inflation,
you
will
see
a
trove
of
very
high
quality
resources
that
shows
how
this
this
phenomenon
is
impacting:
water
utilities,
nationwide,
public
and
and
private.
You
know
it's
just.
We
are
kind
of
at
the
perfect
juncture.
Right
now
of
you
know
the
dawn
of
the
infrastructure
replacement
era
here
in
california,
we're
dealing
with
other
things
we're
dealing
with.
I
You
know
water
supply
challenges.
This
is
the
second
year
of
a
potentially
a
multi-year
drought.
I
don't
know
what
valley
water
is
looking
to
do
at
this
point.
I
know
that
they're
talking
about
you,
know
how
they're
going
to
handle
this.
Should
we
have
another
another
dry
year
and
that's
one
thing
that
I
would
like
to
say
and
give
them
some.
Some
props
valley
water
has
actually
done
a
very
good
job
for
for
our
mutual
constituents
in
terms
of
shoring
up
our
water
supply.
I
In
times
of
drought,
we
were
the
envy
of
the
state
during
2015
2017.
When
you
know
when
we
had
groundwater
supplies
to
draw
from
yes,
we
we
had
to
call
for
conservation.
There
was
no
doubt
about
that,
but
if
you
recall,
when
the
governor
came
out
with
his
emergency
declaration,
the
this
area
was
actually
one
of
the
areas
where
they
called
for
a
lower
amount
of
conservation,
mandatory
conservation
than
other
areas,
owing
to
the
good
work
of
owing
to
the
good
work
of
valley,
water.
L
Thanks
yeah-
and
I
you
know,
I
do
appreciate
infrastructure,
critical
and
expensive
and
we
often
under
invest
in
it.
I
I
will
just
say,
though,
in
response
I
I
really
I
understand,
I
think
how
your
rates
are
normally
structured.
That
being
said,
I
think
it
is
a
real
burden
on
residents
and
I
think,
if
you
could
consider
smoothing
out
that
that
rate
increase,
I
I
know
the
community
would
be
very
grateful
and
I'll
just
say
for
ting's
benefit.
I
mean
that's
a
major
request
of
the
community.
L
I
apologize
to
my
colleagues
because
I
don't
usually
spend
20
minutes
on
an
item
like
this,
but
I
do
want
to
just
wrap
up
trying
to
get
a
slightly
better
understanding
of
rate
relief
for
our
residents,
who
are
struggling
to
pay
their
water
bills
and
again,
apologies
for
not
being
an
expert
on
any
of
this,
at
least
yet.
But
you
know
what
what
what
has
the
company
done
for
those
rate
payers
who
are
struggling?
L
I
Yeah
yeah
thank
you
councilmember,
so
so,
right
now,
like
all
utilities,
including
the
municipal
water
system,
we
have
a
moratorium
on
shutoffs
nobody's
getting
shut
off
for
for
non-payment,
disconnected
for
non-payment.
We
are
offering
payment
arrangements
to
our
customers,
we're
offering
other
programs
to
help
them
manage
their
bills,
including
our
our
very
popular
catch
program.
It's
basically
a
water,
a
water
audit
program
that
will
come
out
and
you
know
safely,
you
know,
conduct
an
audit
and
and
help
customers
use
water
more
efficiently.
I
One
of
the
things
that
that
has
resulted
from
this
this
pandemic
right,
an
opportunity
for
us,
is
our
our
water
rate
assistance
program,
and
so
that
program
provides
a
15
discount
for
customers
who
qualify
and,
according
to
a
recent
spur
the
regional
planning
organization
that
you're
all
familiar
with.
According
to
a
recent
study
that
they
did,
we
have
a
penetration
rate
in
terms
of
sign
up
of
eligible
homeowners
who
who
actually
qualify
for
the
program
of
about
75
percent.
I
That's
that's
a
huge
number
in
terms
of
in
terms
of
program,
there's
always
room
for
improvement.
Council
member
we're
trying
to
you
know
hit
the
street.
You
know,
with
our
communications
program,
to
try
and
drive
up
that
that
enrollment
to
try
and
help
you
know
customers
receive
that
15
discount
and
you
know
we're
working
with
pg
e,
our
our
electric
utility
to
do
that
as
well
through
their
care
program.
L
I
So
so
it
was,
it
was
a.
It
was
an
edict,
it
was,
it
was
issued
by
the
governor,
the
governor,
actually
issued
an
emergency
proclamation
and
then
the
puc
followed
suit,
with
some
additional
guidance
for
what
we
can
and
cannot
do
and
what
programs
we
can
offer
our
customers
right
now.
I
can
tell
you
that
the
public
utilities
commission
is
looking
at
a
potentially
a
july.
Third,
I'm
sorry
a
june
30th
date
for
the
end
of
that
shutoff
moratorium.
Obviously
it's
not
completely
in
their
hands.
I
There
are
a
couple
of
proceedings
going
on
right
now:
the
puc
that's
looking
at
that
very
issue
of
a
rear
just
with
with
our
customers
and
how
how
we
can
handle
that,
and
just
like
the
municipal
water
system,
we
have
not
been
spared
there.
We
are
seeing,
you
know,
obviously
quite
a
few
customers
who
need
some
additional
help
and
their
ridges
are
piling
up,
and
you
know
we're
certainly
welcome.
You
know
we're
certainly
here
to
help
them
in
any
way
that
we
can.
H
I'll
comment
on
that
you
know
our
mission
is
about
public
health
and
public
safety,
and
you
know
we
want
no
part
of
you
know
shutting
people
off
or
forcing
them
out
of
their
homes
to
pay
a
pass-through
water
bill.
It
took
a
long
time
for
these
rare
just
to
develop
and
we'll
do
everything
we
can
to
extend
those
payments
out.
As
long
as
we
can,
all
a
customer
has
to
do
is
call
us.
We
will
work
with
them.
H
We
will
commit
to
working
with
them
and
it's
we
want
no
one
to
be
shut
off,
we've
learned
and
seen
during
a
pandemic.
You
know
the
simple
act
of
being
able
to
wash
your
hands
what
a
difference
that
can
make
for
public
health,
so
that
would
be
our
goal
that
no
one
gets
shut
off
and
I
believe
we
can
achieve
levels
like
that.
If
customers
work
with
us,
we
will
work
with
them.
We'll
find
ways
to
to
make
that
happen.
L
F
Thank
you
appreciate
the
questions
and
all
the
questions
are
good
ones.
I
I
just
wanted
to
follow
up
on
one
question
that
councilman
mahan
made
and
it
combines
with
comments.
I
know
that
came
out
of
the
public
as
well
during
our
our
brief
public
comment,
which
is
you
know,
the
merger
with
connecticut
water,
my
recollection
is
more
than
a
billion
dollars
and
there's
1.1
billion
all
cash.
F
I
I
guess,
as
we
go
back
to
that
whole
cost
of
capital
portion
of
the
dollar
bill-
that's
the
10,
I
guess
the
or
the
rate
case.
I
assume
that
cost
of
capital
is
what
you're
paying
for
dividends.
All
utilities.
Companies,
of
course,
famously
paid,
pay
dividends
or
or
interest
on
debt
is
that
is
that
fair.
H
H
H
So
if
we,
if
it
didn't
and
didn't
cover
that
plus
added
value,
then
it
would
be.
You
know,
value
destructive
for
our
shareholders
and
of
course
you
know,
that's
not
a
good
thing
to
do
so
so
the
earnings
from
those
utilities
mayor
you
know
pay
for
the
the
capital
at
the
parent
company
level
that
was
used
to
purchase
that
utility
again
customers
in
california
there's
no
impact
on
them
as
a
result
of
that
merger.
There's
no
intermingling
of
that
capital.
F
F
H
You
know
I'll
state
it
again.
You
know
the
parent
company,
the
capital
that
that
that
it
borrowed
and
the
equity
that
the
parents
sold
not
not
at
the
operating
utility
level.
You
know
that
acquisition
and
the
earnings
that
get
dividended
up
from
those
utilities.
You
know
cover
that
capital.
So
that's
a
it's
really
us
if
you
will
think
about
it
separately,
because,
prior
to
that,
you
know
dividends
from
san
jose
water
company
that
rolled
up
to
the
parent
company.
H
You
know
supported
the
parent
company
and
its
size
at
that
time,
and
then,
ultimately,
the
parent
company
would
divide
to
the
public
shareholders.
I
would
say
this:
we
would
invite
a
complete
and
transparent
review
from
office
of
public
advocate
and
the
staff
at
the
public
utility
commission
who
are
experts.
They
can
do
a
deep
dive,
we'll
share
any
and
all
information
and
do
everything
we
can
to
demonstrate
exactly.
H
As
I've
said
there,
there
is
no
commingling
of
those
of
those
proceeds
and
it
has
no
impact
on
customers
here
in
california
other
than
I
would
actually
say,
there's
a
benefit
because
we
have
been
able
to
allocate
expenses
out
of
the
revenue
requirement.
California,
now
that
we
have
this
larger
scale,
okay,.
F
L
I
E
A
F
A
D
Good
evening,
yes,
I
I
agree
with
the
speakers,
the
law
foundation
and
other
people
for
the
break,
who
are
saying
that
we
can't
move
people
out
of
encampments
unless
we
have
a
place
to
move
them
to.
Ideally
that
would
be
the
hotels
that
fema
will
provide
funding
for
and
failing
and
feeling
that
encampment
sorry,
I'm
getting
an
echo
anyway.
D
K
Most
disturbing
memories
I
have
growing
up
here
is
during
my
senior
year
of
high
school,
a
group
of
students,
and
I
volunteered
at
a
coyote,
creek
cleanup.
We
when
we
arrived,
we
realized
that
we
had
come
after
a
city,
city-sponsored
abatement.
I
am
extremely
disturbed
and
was
extremely
disturbed
by
the
complete
destruction
of
homes,
and
that
at
this
cleanup
we
were
made
to
throw
away
family
photos,
id
cards
and
other
things
that
people
need
to
survive.
Abatements
completely
disregard
the
humanity
of
our
unhoused
neighbors
after
graduating,
from
college
and
coming
home.
K
I'm
extremely
disappointed
to
hear
that
the
city
continues
to
support
these
abatements,
even
in
spite
of
recommendations
by
our
health
care
providers
during
a
pandemic.
I'm
seeking
today,
as
a
long,
long-time
community,
member
and
standing
alongside
other
youth
who
represent
the
future
of
this
community.
When
I
say
our
community
needs
self-determined
aid
and
care,
not
abatements
city
council
members,
please
stop
supporting
and
using
abatements
and
sweeps
and
start
investing
in
providing
life-affirming
services.
Thank
you.
A
I
I
do
work
with
the
on
house
in
san
jose
and
unhoused
not
homeless.
First
of
all,
and
also
you
cannot,
we
cannot
allow
sweeps
to
continue.
We
they've
been
going
illegally.
Might
I
add
for
a
couple
weeks
now,
and
this
cannot
continue.
We
cannot
kick
people
out
of
their
homes
when
they
have
nowhere
else
to
go.
It
is
immoral.
There
are
children
out
there.
There
are
people
who
have
nowhere
to
go.
A
We
need
to
help
people.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
we
know
where
they're
going
first
before
we
decide
to
kick
them
out
so
sanctioned
encampments
are
not.
We
cannot
continue.
Abatements
abatements
cannot
continue
at
the
moment.
We
do
not
have
a
plan.
So
therefore
abatements
should
not
happen,
and
you
know
it's
ridiculous
that
we
even
have
to
have
this
conversation.
It
should
be
a
no-brainer.
To
be
completely
honest,
I'm
furious,
to
be
honest,.
A
See
how
high
your
flagpole
is
in
your
front
yard,
if
it's
over
an
inch
to
make
you
take
it
down.
This
is
a
city
that
takes
a
lot
of
time
to
do
all
these
things
and
they
don't
seem
to
have
money
for
anything
else.
The
people
who
think
that
they're
gonna
all
of
a
sudden
have
money
for
the
homeless,
they're
they're
crazy,
because
the
city
likes
to
concentrate
on
other
things.
You
know
they
like
to
concentrate
on
making
sure
that
a
cop
hides
behind
a
bush,
make
sure
you
don't
roll.
A
C
A
N
F
K
K
I
want
to
emphasize
that
when
you
talk
about
abatements,
no
encampment
zones,
you're
talking
about
people
not
rubbish
to
be
swept
away
out
of
sight,
I'm
in
favor
of
helping
people
by
providing
sanctioned
encampments
support,
services
and,
ultimately,
housing.
I'm
opposed
to
destroying
people's
shelters,
discarding
their
belongings
and
pushing
them
out
with
no
place
to
go.
That
is
cruel
and
doesn't
solve
anything.
K
It
only
keeps
more
misery
on
people
who
are
already
struggling
to
survive
there,
but
for
the
grace
of
luck
and
privilege,
go
I
you
or
any
one
of
us
unhoused
folks
are
friends,
family
members
and
part
of
our
community.
Please
establish
sanctioned
encampments
and
work
toward
housing
for
all.
Do
not
sweep
away
people
as
if
they
were
trash.
F
E
Hi
emily
clark
from
destination
home-
and
I
just
want
to
say
I'm
in
favor
of
saving
campers
people
out
there
in
the
house.
They
already
have
they're
struggling
enough.
You
know
they
and
they
come
through
and
taking
their
their
homes.
That
someone
said
you
know,
and
then
they
have
to
go.
Look
for
another
one!
It's
cold
out
there!
The
shelters
are
full.
You
know
there's
nowhere
to
go,
there's
more
people
wanting
to
get
into
shelters,
but
there's
no
room
we're
trying
to
end
the
homelessness,
not
make
it
harder
for
them.
G
G
For
our
own
house
community-
and
we
definitely
support
you,
know
your
efforts
and
wanting
to
to
have
a
cleaner
san
jose,
cleaner,
creeks,
cleaner
waterways
and
everything
else
in
between.
So
whatever
we
could
do
to
help
with
our
volunteer
group.
We're
here
to
support
you
guys
and
we'll
be
out
there.
Thank
you
so
much
marion
council.
E
E
A
A
E
F
D
E
E
E
E
That
there
will
be
no
sweeps
or
abatements
of
encampments
removing
household
houseless
people
from
their
present
homes
and
community
support
without
stable,
sanctioned
encampments,
ready
and
waiting
for
them.
Encampments
in
districts
around
the
city
that
are
maintained
by
city
workers
to
assure
a
clean.
E
Medical
services,
people
who
are
moved
need
transportation
together
with
their
belongings,
so
they
don't
lose
what
precious
few
possessions
they
have
in
this
era
of
covet.
We
need
to
do
this,
for
the
sake
of
them
house,
to
maintain
our
city's
values
and
to
support
the
health
and
welfare
of
the
surrounding
communities.
A
A
Predominantly
you've
heard
this
passionate
call,
because
people
need
a
place
to
stay.
They
lose
their
their
possessions,
I'm
here
to
say
it's
not
economically
smart,
because
all
you're
doing
is
you're
moving
them
from
one
place
to
the
next
and
cleaning
up
again
after
them.
If
you
even
clean
up,
why
not
help
them
clean
up?
A
A
K
Hello,
mayor
and
councilman,
thank
you
for
this
opportunity
and
meena
raj.
I'm
part
silicon
valley
foundation.
We
work
with
the
san
jose
unhoused
friends
I
am
all
in
for
sanctioned
better
encampment
facilities
for
our
friends.
However,
I'm
fully
against
sweets
before
we
establish
a
proper
encampment
for
them
to
move
to
having
worked
with
our
in-house
friends.
Personally,
I
can
assure
you
that
they
are
people
just
like
you
and
me.
It
is
hence
extremely
inhuman
to
destroy
their
homes
and
take
away
documents
and
ideas
that
are
extremely.
K
A
My
name
is
richard
scott,
I
am
the
retired
supervisor
of
the
original
county.
Mental
health
homeless
team
and
I
continue
to
be
a
homeless,
advocate
work
in
the
camps.
I
really
want
to
say
how
excited
I
am
to
hear
the
presentation
that
was
given
today.
It
couldn't
have
been
better.
It
was
more
enlightened
than
anything
I
have
heard
in
in
the
county.
So
far
in
the
city.
A
F
E
Hi,
I
am
against
the
state
sanctioned
violence
against
unhoused
communities.
Doing
a
sweep
is
basically
killing
them.
It
shouldn't
happen.
There
is
money
to
support
our
our
unhoused
neighbors
when
we
spend
half
a
billion
dollars
on
the
police.
Why
can't
we
spend
that
on
our
own
house
communities
when
you
know
police?
What
do
they
do?
E
Three
more
people
become
unhoused
unless
you
address
and
solve
the
root
issues
like
wage
disparity
versus
perpetually
perpetuating
continued
dependency,
we're
going
to
just
be
a
dog
chasing
its
tail
and
it's
one
of
lady
gaga's
dogs,
so
please
less
studies,
more
action
and
help
people
out
of
homelessness.
Thank
you.
P
E
E
E
E
M
M
M
F
E
Yes,
I
think
the
proposal
of
mayor
lecardo
is
absolutely
horrifying.
It's
in
violation
of
multiple
international
laws
in
regards
to
human
rights,
it's
in
violation
of
the
un
convention
of
1948
in
regards
to
human
rights,
and
I
speak
to
you
as
a
formerly
unhoused
person.
Who's
experienced
these
problems
and
it
it.
You
know
you
are-
are
saying
in
your
memorandum
that
you
can
overrule
the
guidelines
of
public
health
officials.
How
dare
you?
What
is
your
qualification
to
do
so?
F
A
E
Hi,
I'm
deb
kramer
with
keep
kai
to
creek
beautiful
and
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
share
my
thoughts
on
the
encampment
management
strategy.
There
are
many
stakeholders,
but
I'm
here,
to
represent
the
waterways
and
wildlife
that
need
our
voice,
while
considering
the
safety
of
all
people.
I
really
appreciate
service
model
2.0,
which
uses
the
mapping
overlays
to
prioritize
where
homeless
encampments
are
located,
the
need
for
trash
removal
and
now
the
soar
services.
E
So
again,
thanks
to
the
beautify
isj
team
and
eoc
for
using
a
data-driven
approach
to
prioritizing
these
needs,
I
am
in
favor
of
sanctioned
encampments,
as
indicated
in
council,
member
paralysis,
memos
and
council
member
mayhem's
recent
memo
to
connect
people
to
housing,
opportunities
and
behavioral
health
resources
and
addiction
services.
However,
this
only
applies
to
those
that
want
help
and
housing.
E
E
K
Good
evening,
council
members,
my
name
is
nikita
sinha,
I'm
the
wax
san
jose
program
manager
with
california
walks.
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
two
points.
First,
regarding
the
recommendation
on
creating
encampment
buffer
zones
for
school
safety,
the
safety
of
children
walking
to
school
depends
most
on
safe
pedestrian
infrastructure.
K
Traffic
crashes
are
the
leading
cause
of
death
among
children,
nationwide
and
unsafe
streets.
Not
unhoused
people
pose
the
greatest
risk
to
children's
safety.
Secondly,
the
on
house
population
is
one
of
the
largest
groups
affected
by
traffic
crashes
in
san
jose.
The
county's
medical
examiner
office
recently
reported
that
over
the
past
five
years,
at
least
27
unhoused
people
were
killed
while
walking
or
biking
our
own
house.
Neighbors
are
not
a
pedestrian,
they
are
vulnerable.
K
G
G
E
G
G
If
you
give
them
the
opportunity
to
be
able
to
step
up
and
actually
be
responsible,
you'll
find
out
that
most
people
take
that
responsibility
very
seriously,
especially
if
involves
the
safety
that
they
would
be
getting
by
being
in
a
sanction.
Encampment,
and
if
those
people
have
the
ability
to
vote
out
somebody
who's
creating
a
problem
for
them.
They're
going
to
tend
to
be
much
more
organized
and
democratic
about
how
they
go
about
doing
things.
It
is
something
that
I
have
been
promoting
for
quite
some
time.
G
F
A
E
E
Most
of
these
camps
that
I
go
to
would
love
to
be
a
sanctioned
encampment.
They
can
run
it
themselves,
they
already
run
the
camps,
they
already
have
the
dues
and
the
dopes
for
a
lot
of
the
residents
and
they
want
to
be
a
safe
home.
They
want
to
live
in
their
home,
they
want
to
be
safe
and
they
don't
want
to
be
abated,
and
please
listen
to
most
of
these
folks
tonight.
Thank
you.
F
F
K
E
K
Here,
I'd
like
to
thank
you
for
opening
up
this
meeting
to
the
public.
My
name
is
lisanne
huber
and
I'm
also
with
agape
silicon
valley.
I
want
to
echo
what
many
other
advocates
for
the
n
house
have
voiced
here
tonight
and
that
is
I'm
in
favor
of
also
sanctioned
encampments
in
the
unhoused
communities.
K
O
K
E
E
I
A
Robert
right,
okay,
can
you
hear
me
now?
Yes,
okay,
good,
I'm
an
activist
with
the
julian
st
james
neighborhood
association,
and
lately
we've
had
a
severe
problem
with
encampments
on
north
17th
street.
It
got
so
bad
that
homeowners
were
being
threatened
just
for
looking
at
the
encampments
from
their
front
porch
or
through
their
living
room
window,
and
there
were
incidents
of
violence
with
hacksaws
and
baseball.
E
I
And
we
need
to
be
out
there
ourselves
because
they
are
not
going
to
do
it
for
us.
They
do
not
care
for
us.
They
do
not
work
for
us.
They
work
for
the
corporations
of
our
area.
These
corporations
in
silicon
valley
not
only
displace
people
in
our
in
our
community,
but
people
across
the
global
south.
These
people
are
terrorizing
our
world
and
destroying
our
world.
A
A
So
what's
wrong,
there's
nothing
in
the
city's
post-coveted
plan
that
deals
with
the
most
destructive
and
visible
on
house
demographic,
those
who
have
alcohol
or
drug
abuse
disorders
and
or
untreated
psychiatric
disorders,
even
you've
offered
them
housing.
They
say
no.
Last
week
I
was
on
my
own
property.
One
of
these
unhoused
in
front
of
my
three-year-old
grandson
came
up
to
me
and
screamed
insanely,
and
I
quote:
f
you
a-hole
suck
my
c,
I'm
gonna
kill
you
and
your
kid.
A
He
may
live
on
coyote
creek,
but
he
was
screaming
at
me
on
my
property
and
I
contend
that
it's
just
not
compassion
to
let
him
live
in
his
own
filth
and
defecate
in
this
creek
and
cause
trauma
to
me
and
worse,
my
grandson,
please
direct
staff
to
include
part
of
the
plan
that
will
deal
with
these
service
resistant
unhoused
and,
at
the
same
time,
please
continue
to
conduct
your
abatements
in
the
humane
and
successful
way
that
I've
seen
your
parks
and
housing
folks
work.
Thank
you.
A
E
Yes,
I
just
want
people
to
realize
that
at
any
moment
this
can
be
us
like
we
can
all
be
unhoused
at
any
moment.
Just
it
just
takes
another
recession.
It
takes
another
pandemic.
I
want
people
realize
that
this
can
be
a
set
in
any
minute
and
sam
ricardo
I
and
the
rest
of
the
city
council
members.
I
want
to
say
that
you
guys
are
weird
as
hell.
F
E
A
A
C
A
C
A
A
E
E
Hi,
my
name
is
guadalupe
gonzalez,
I'm
here
tonight
on
behalf
of
the
mayfair
community.
Right
now
we
have
a
homeless
incumbent
at
the
lower
syria
creek
between
the
280
freeway
entrance
at
jackson,
avenue
all
the
way
to
san
antonio
street.
I'm
concerned
about
this
safe
and
unhealthy
environment
around
our
schools,
for
example,
lee
maxwell
middle
schools.
E
We
have
12
schools
in
our
neighborhood
and
our
kids
are
not
safe
to
return
to
school
and
to
walk
to
these
schools.
We
have
aggravated
physical
assaults
to
residents,
sending
them
to
ers
polluting
the
creek
with
human
waste
and
exposing
themselves
to
anyone
deaths
in
our
front
yards.
The
situation
is
creating
fear
just
to
walk
around
the
block
so
and
that's
why
I'm
asking
the
mayor
and
the
city
council
like
work
with
us
to
solve
this
problem.
Thank
you.
E
Can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
we
can.
Thank
you
all
right,
so
I've
been
out
there
helping
with
the
unhoused
community
and
the
what
I've
seen
in
the
situations
is
nothing
short
of
embarrassing
on
the
count
of
you
know
we're
in
the
richest
city,
one
of
the
richest
cities
in
the
california
bay
area-
and
you
know
what
you've
seen
is
an
abject
failure
and
the
language
being
used
tonight
to
talk
about
our
neighbors
is
nothing
short
of
insulting
people.
E
Don't
know
the
humiliation
they
go
through
to
you
know
to
go
through
these
programs
and
to
try
to
so
so
to
speak,
play
by
the
rules,
and
you
know
I
think
we're
going
about
this.
The
wrong
way.
Resources
needs
to
be
made
more
accessible.
These
are
people,
these
aren't
animals.
You
know
they
know
how
to
do
things
themselves,
even
if
they
are
disturbed,
but
yeah.
Definitely,
keep
that
in
mind.
D
E
Rock
school
district
can
work
with
the
city
of
san
jose
to
create
a
no
parking
zone
or
a
permit
parking
area
to
discourage
overnight
camping
around
our
schools.
I
wonder
if
our
school
board
and
city
officials
could
prioritize
a
school
safety
zone
as
a
policy
to
ensure
a
clear
passage
for
students.
I
know
the
tenderloin
in
san
francisco.
They
work
with
a
group
called
safe
passage,
who
walk
with
students
as
they
move
to
and
from
school
to
ensure
passage.
F
I
I
just
wanted
to
start
with
two
very
quick
questions
for
jackie
reagan.
I
believe
you
know
I
saw
two
different
numbers,
but
I
think
the
number
that
is
specific
to
the
city
in
terms
of
the
work
that
we
have
done,
I
believe,
was
a
little
more
than
2
000
residents
that
have
been
moved
into
permanent
housing
in
san
jose.
Is
that
accurate
over
the
last
year.
F
Okay,
that's
what
I
what's
what
I
heard
earlier
was
this
number
between
16
and
1700,
and
then
in
a
report
I
saw
very
early
on.
I
think
it's
in
the
second
supplemental,
a
reference
to
2020
I'll
find
the
number.
In
any
event,
I
was
just
trying
to
understand
how
we
were
doing
in
in
the
aggregate
I'll
get
back
to
that
site.
In
a
moment.
I
I
think
what
we
know
all
around.
F
Of
course
it
was
illegal
under
the
fda
guidelines
and
ultimately
couldn't
work
in
the
long
run,
and
so
this
is
really
really
hard.
I
think
that
is
the
very
difficult
thing
about
sanctioning
campaigns,
which
is
if
you're
sanctioned.
It
means
you
have
to
make
it
legal,
which
means
you've
got
to
go
through
a
land
use
process,
and
it
probably
means
you
need
an
extensive
community
process
as
well.
Just
like
we
would
with
any
development
for
affordable
housing.
F
R
F
It's
16.,
okay,
again,
I'm
getting
all
the
numbers
wrong,
because
I
keep
seeing
different
numbers
in
reference
to
these
things,
and
I
have
seen
numbers
saying
we
have
hand
washing
stations
and
garbage
at
20
sites.
I
saw
that
on
one
of
the
slides,
and
so
that's
not
a
reference
to
a
source
site.
That's
just
a
hand
washing
station
is
that
right.
F
Okay,
nonetheless,
we're
providing
basic
services
of
some
kind
for
bathrooms
hand
washing
garbage
in
some
form,
between
16
and
20
sites.
As
a
council,
we
have
voted
to
expand
the
number
of
those
sites
through
the
budget
message
that
we
just
passed
last
week,
and
I
guess
the
question
is
for
the
housing
department,
given
the
resources
that
you're
constrained
by
and
your
imperative
focus,
which
is
trying
to
get
people
permanently
housed,
whether
it's
1600
plus
or
more,
we
know
we
want
it
to
be
much
more.
N
Well,
you
already
lost
me
when
you
said
going
through
a
community
process
to
identify
the
sanctioned
encampments
is
something
you
know
we,
the
housing
department
went
through
an
extensive
process
when
we
asked
every
council
office
to
identify
a
site
that
they
were
willing
to
put
in
front
of
us
to
do
a
bridge
housing
community.
So
that's
where
we
actually
build
a
facil.
You
know
a
little
unit
and
we
were
unable
to
identify
through
the
partnership
with
the
council
offices
any
sites
and
that
left
the
housing
department
out
there
trying
to
identify
city-owned
facility.
N
F
F
Proposed
having
sanctioned
encampment
sites
in
their
districts
and
ultimately,
neither
site
worked
for
the
long
term
for
different
reasons,
but
I
really
firmly
believe
that
if
the
idea
is
to
have
a
place
that
is
safe,
where
we
can
provide
basic
services,
we
can
probably
do
that
much
more
effectively
doing
what
staff
has
been
doing
and
identifying
16
source
sites,
plus
whatever
additional
sites.
We're
providing
other
services
at
then
going
through
a
process
to
identify,
sanctioned
encampments.
F
And
if
we
ever
were
to
do
such
a
thing.
I
would
really
urge
my
colleagues
to
take
the
leadership
of
identifying
those
sites
in
your
own
districts
rather
than
having
city
staff
go
through
that
very
wrenching
public
process,
which
ultimately,
I
believe
is
gets
us
very
little,
because
if
we're
going
to
go
through
that
public
process
anyway,
I'd
much
rather
go
build
housing
for
unhoused
residents
that
is
dignified
and
safe,
rather
than
simply
a
site
where
they're
going
to
be
a
lot
of
tents.
That
we
know
will
be
vehemently
opposed
by
any
neighborhood.
F
So
we
do
have
source
sites.
Let's
take
advantage
of
what
seems
to
be
working
to
the
extent
that
it's
providing
some
safe
location
and
a
location
that
will
not
result
in
people
being
swept,
and
that
way
we
can
focus
our
scarce
resources
on
getting
people
housed.
Okay,
there
were
several
folks
who
had
their
hands
raised
and
henry
had
sent
me
a
list
of
the
order
in
which
they
all
came
up.
So
the
order
that
henry
told
me
was
henry
here
we
go
council
member
esparza.
D
D
F
E
D
Okay,
you
could
go
to
the
next
slide.
Please
and
then
this
is
a
student's,
walk
and
actually
a
drop-off
area
at
rocket
ship
mosaic
on
the
kresha
and
story,
and
that's
an
elementary
school.
If
you
could
go
to
the
next
site
slide
please.
So
this
is
a
student's
walk
to
dahl,
elementary
in
the
block
in
seven
trees
area.
If
you
could
go
to
the
next
slide,
this
is
nearby
the
seven
trees
community
center
next
slide,
the
tully
ball
fields
which
is
adjacent
to
the
tully
library.
D
D
D
D
This
is
district
7.,
and
so
so
I
had
a
few
questions
first
off
jackie
or
reagan.
If
you
could
remind
us
how
many
folks
have
been
permanently
housed
and
how
many
folks
have
been
sheltered
over
the
past
year,
I
do
think
it's
something
we
should
shout
from
the
rooftops,
because
it's
it's
it's
pretty
huge.
R
D
D
R
N
D
R
E
D
D
E
D
D
D
D
For
some
reason,
we
only
tend
to
talk
about
homelessness
during
the
annual
homeless
report
or
when
we
talk
about
homelessness,
specifically
when,
in
fact
we
discuss
many
policies
as
a
council
that
impacts
people
falling
into
homelessness.
So
I
also
wanted
to
bring
that
up,
because
I
do
think
we
need
to
start
talking
about
that.
D
E
D
Thanks
and
I
and
I
bring
that
up
because
we
talk
about
other
cities
and
what
they're
doing
when
oakland
voted
on
their
setbacks
and
sanctioned
encampments,
they
did
pull
all
the
the
staff
memos
on
that.
We
looked
at
denver
and
other
cities
and
we're
not
alone.
Every
city
is
trying
to
figure
this
out
and
they
take
a
vote
and
then
they
don't
implement
it
because
they
can't
figure
it
out.
So
so.
D
D
Giving
false
guidance
to
folks-
and
I
showed
those
slides
earlier,
because
I
have
neighborhoods
that
have
public
health
hazards
as
well,
because
of
some
of
the
encampments.
We
had
a
fire
today
on
central
road
which
actually
shut
down
said.
Excuse
me
center
road,
some
of
the
neighborhoods
and
the
photos
that
you
saw.
D
The
residents
who
live
in
those
in
those
apartments
and
homes
who
are
overcrowded
with
multiple
families
living
in
those
homes
have
had
rodents
have
had
infestations,
have
had
sanitation
and
sewage
issues,
because
they've
been
dropped
off
in
front
of
their
homes,
in
addition
to
fires
and
public
safety
issues,
particularly
in
a
couple
of
encampments
that
I
can
think
of
where
there
have
been
gunfire
and
some
other
issues
in
those
encampments
near
where
families
live.
And
so
that's
where
that's.
Why
I
wanted
to
bring
it
up?
D
Sometimes
we
may
need
to
abate
as
a
first
resort,
particularly
if
there
are
fires
being
set
next
to
a
mobile
home
park
or
if
there
are
fires
and
on
story
in
101
and
people
are
running
out
into
freeways
to
me.
That
represents
a
public
safety
hazard,
but
do
we
should
we
and
do
we
abate
every
encampment?
D
I
don't
think
we
should.
I
think
it's
unrealistic.
I
think
it's
it
just
doesn't
make
sense
to
do
it,
why?
Why
would
we
do
that
when
we
can
do
outreach
when
we
can
pursue
other
methods
in
other
encampments,
and
so
this
all
or
nothing
approach
doesn't
seem
to
make
sense
to
me,
and
I
wanted
to
explain
what
some
of
the
setbacks
that
have
been
brought
up,
because
this
was
something
that
I
looked
at
when
oakland
voted
on
it
mind.
D
D
D
And
I
don't
think
that
makes
sense.
I
do
think
we
need
some
latitude,
which
is
why
I
shy
away
from
saying
this
should
be
the
footage.
I
think
that
there
should
be
some
some
some
judgment
involved,
and
I
do
think
that
we
should
prioritize
public
safety
to
me.
Public
safety
should
be
the
first
thing
that
we
look
at
on
an
abatement
on
whether
or
not
we're
going
to
obey
are
people
running
into
a
freeway,
because
they're
encamped
on
story
in
101
and
setting
fires.
D
So
I
I
think
it's
it's
tempting
to
think
that
there's
one
magic
bullet,
that's
going
to
solve
everything
that
if
we
just
do
this
one
thing
it's
going
to
solve
all
our
problems,
and
I
think
that
what
we
know
by
now
is
that
there
isn't
that
it's
going
to
take
multiple
things.
So,
if
you're
asking
for
feedback,
my
feedback
is
that
we
that
we
continue
to
offer
the
system
the
trash,
pickup
and
the
hand
washing
stage
station
pickup
the
justice
for
our
housed
residents.
D
We
are
doing
more
than
a
lot
of
other
cities,
we're
not
looking
for
that
easy
answer
and
again.
My
feedback
is
that
we
need
to
prioritize
equity
in
neighborhoods
and
schools
as
well,
and
somehow
that
gets
left
out
of
the
equation
and
that
that's
we
use
a
data-based
approach
instead
of
a
complaint
based
system.
So
if
you
have
the
mayor's
cell
phone,
you
can
blow
up
the
mayor's
cell
phone
he's
very
gracious
about
it,
but
that
shouldn't
be
how
we
resolve
our
problems.
D
D
And
I
believe
that
we
need
to
revisit
recommendation
number
four
and
not
make
that
decision
right
now,
but
revisit
it
in
the
future.
I'd
like
to
move
councilmember
carrascos
recommendation
number
one
and
I've
already
addressed.
Why
not
to
do
a
specific
setback
on
correct
her
recommendation
number
two
and
I'd
like
to
move
councilmember
carrasco's
recommendation
number
four
and
that's
the
motion.
F
D
F
Okay,
so
let
me
just
recite
what
I
think
I
have
here
recommendation
number
two
from
perales
all
three
recommendations
from
my
memorandum.
Thank
you
recommendations,
one
two
and
three
from
council
members,
foley
and
and
cohen,
but
with
the
modification
on
on
recommendation
number
one
that
it
would
be
for
prioritizing
public
safety
and
I
believe
that
a
recognition,
the
recommendation
number
three-
is
probably
redundant
with
our
budget
direction.
F
F
Okay,
now
councilmember
perales
had
texted
me
just
before
I.
I
believe
that
henry
was
asked
to
take
a
photo
of
the
order
of
the
sequence
of
speakers.
Sure
enough
councilmember
perales
had
texted
me
at
5
54.
I
think
that
he
had
to
switch
devices
and
he
wanted
to
keep
his
place
in
line,
so
kazimir
prowess
is
actually
next.
Then,
council,
member.
C
C
D
C
The
recommendation
number
two
from
my
february.
Fourth,
memo
was
sort
of
to
be
following
that
you
know,
I
think
the
advocacy
which
has
already
been
done,
and
fortunately
we
have
a
positive
response
from
the
county
in
regards
to
prioritizing
our
own
house
community
with
vaccinations.
Maybe
I
can
ask
staff
if
they
can
respond
to
that,
just
to
see
how
that
has
gone,
because
we
did
actually
move
forward
with
that
advocacy
back
in
early
february
and
the
county
did
respond
and
and
include
the
unhoused
residents
in
this
next
series
of
vaccinations.
C
R
C
C
C
We've
seen
that
the
benefit,
as
was
pointed
out
by
council
member
esparza
as
well
being
able
to
to
house
over
3
200
people
last
year,
that
that
is
those
are
tremendous
results.
It's
just
the
reality
is
that
the
the
challenge
is
so
daunting
that
we
don't
necessarily
see
the
the
positive
impact
of
those.
Unless
you
actually
you
know,
know
the
individuals
or
or
are
able
to
understand
it
on
a
really
small
scale.
C
It's
you
know
as
an
overall
challenge.
You
know
we
have
not
seen
as
the
pictures
that
councilman
sparta
showed
or
really
just
looking
around
the
city,
and
especially
here
in
district
3
and
in
district
7,
not
seeing
the
the
challenge
of
encampments,
look
like
they're
going
away
or
even
shrinking,
in
fact
the
opposite,
and
so
I
think
that's
really
just
the
challenge
for
for
our
community
and
it's
just
the
reality
of
no
matter
how
good
we
may
be
doing
over
the
last
few
years
and
with
the
community
plan
to
end
homelessness.
C
C
The
last
few
years
of
his
life
really
on
the
streets
and
in
shelters
and
died,
very
young
and
and
at
a
I
think,
really
being
susceptible
to
to
life
on
the
street.
Wasn't
too
much
older
than
than
me
and
looked
as
though
he
could
have
been
40
50
years
older
because
of
the
life
that
he
that
he
had
and
and
and
not
just
that,
that
one
story
of
of
my
own
personal
family,
but
really
seeing
the
individuals
that
are
that
are
struggling
out
in
in
our
streets.
C
C
There
were
triggers
that
happened
in
their
lives
and
and
things
that
that
displaced
them
and
made
them
homeless
and-
and
that
could
truly
happen
anyways
and
in
our
futures
today,
and-
and
that's
certainly
not
something-
that's
lost
on
me,
and
I
would
want
to
know
that
my
community
and
my
public
officials
are
truly
doing
everything
that
they
can
for.
You
know
for
me
and
really
for
for
everybody
that
is
suffering
and
so
with.
That
is
really.
I
think
why
this
has
been
such
a
priority
issue
for
me
number
one.
C
I
can't
avoid
it
as
council
member.
As
far
as
I
can,
as
you
see
from
the
data,
it
is
the
number
one
issue
challenging
our
communities
here
in
district
three
and
in
district,
seven
and
and
and
we
live
with
that
daily,
whether
it
is
in
and
around
our
own
residences
or
just
hearing
about
it
endlessly.
In
regards
to
the
struggles
that
that
are
faced
in
our
community.
C
We
still
only
see
the
majority
of
those
solutions
occurring
in
a
few
places
throughout
the
city,
whether
it
be
a
lack
of
political
will
or
even
more.
So.
What
we
see
is
really
the
pressure
from
from
our
communities
to
to
push
back
against
these
types
of
solutions
and
and
as
the
mayor
stated
and
as
I
have
been
a
proponent
for
sanctioned
encampments
for
going
on
five
years
now,
I've
also
been
willing
to
to
put
forward
locations
and
in
fact,
I
I
have
another
location
in
mind
to
put
forward.
C
Where
I
I
struggle
to
support
the
direction,
the
current
motion
is
that
if
we
don't
actually
include
some
other
locations
and
to
be
honest,
I
don't
care
if
we
call
them
sanctions,
encampments
or
if
we
call
them
source
sites.
If
there's
some
legal
challenges
for
us
in
regards
to
a
title
of
sanction
encampment,
and
we
want
to
continue
with
what
we're
calling
sources,
it's
basically
the
same
thing,
there's
just
one
major
difference
and
I've
been
saying
this
repeatedly
over
the
last
year.
C
C
I
took
a
look
at
the
suggestions
based
on
where
we
might
prioritize
abatements,
because
really
that's
what
I've
seen
in
in
the
different
memorials
coming
forward.
It's
just
a
focus
on
where
people
shall
not
encamp
and
looking
at
that,
and
simply
just
looking
along
trying
to
clear
people
from
our
creeks
or
waterways.
C
That's
where
I
struggle
to
sort
of
support
any
motion
that
doesn't
include
an
alternative
location
or
alternative
locations
for
where
we
should
be
redirecting
people
to,
and
I'm
fine
if
we
want
to
call
them
source
heights
and
we
want
to
say
well,
these
are
going
to
be
these
new
sort
site
locations
and
I'm
comfortable
with
prioritizing
areas
that
we,
we
think
really
should
be
cleared
from
abatements
and
actually
comfortable
with
councilman
responders.
Includement
of
inclusion
of
saying
public
safety
should
be
up
there
as
a
priority
as
well.
C
But
what
I
could
not
support
if
we
simply
are
listing
off
places
where
we're
not
going
to
have
encampments
if
we're
listing
strategies
of
how
we're
going
to
do
abatements
and
if
we
begin
to
roll
out
abatements
without
actually
having
alternative
sites
in
mind.
And
I
don't
know
how
we
could
even
support
saying
that
we
would
have
additional
source
sites
or
funding
for
source
sites
if
everything
that
we're
suggesting
right
now
is
actually
going
to
close
the
majority
of
the
source
sites
and
not
and
not
suggest
any
new
location
for
another
source
site.
C
C
This
is
the
opportunity
to
sort
of
shift
that
and-
and
I
want
to
take
advantage
of
that
before
we
simply
go
back
to
status
quo,
which
is
just
debating
identifying
places
that
were
off
limits
for
encampment
and
just
constantly
going
out
and
and
shuffling
people
around
from
place
to
place,
and
so
I
I
I
do
have
a
location.
I've
actually
been
in
conversation
with
supervisor
chavez
about
it,
a
location
that
hopefully,
we
could
partner
on.
C
I
know
that
we
have
other
potential
properties,
as
I
was
happy
to
go
and
stand
with
councilmember
davis
when
we
were
looking
at
the
valley,
water
property
and
she
was
willing
to
to
stand
up
to
to
her
community
as
well
to
try
and
relocate
hope,
village
right
there
on
the
border
of
district
six
in
district
three
and
unfortunately,
the
valley
water
board
did
not
support
that.
But
these
locations
exist
where
there
are
other.
C
C
My
concern
with
with
the
motion
is
that
if,
if
we're
not
including
the
efforts
of
trying
to
identify
new
locations
and
again
I
you
know,
we
don't
have
to
call
them
sanction,
but
we
just
need
to
identify
new
locations
where
we
can
have
this
level
of
support
and
service
in
where
we're
not
going
to
be
abating.
People,
if
we're
only
doing
the
opposite,
which
is
identifying
where
we
will
abate
people,
then
I
just
I.
C
M
M
Where
I
mean
if
at
this
point,
we
we
are
in
in
such
hot
water,
with
this
conversation
about
opportunity,
housing
where
we're
talking
about
four
plexes
and
duplexes
and
people
are
treating
it
and
our
commit
a
planning.
Commissioner,
is
you
know
having
this
misinformation
about
this,
and
people
are
in
an
uproar
about
it?
M
I
can't
imagine
if
we
leave
it
up
to
our
districts
to
decide
they'll
say
absolutely.
No,
so
I
think
there
needs
to
be
a
conversation
among
all
of
us
to
say
there
needs
to
be
at
least
one
site
in
each
district
come
up
with
two
two
different
locations,
but
one
of
the
two
locations
is
gonna
have
to
work.
M
M
M
M
People
will
there's
enough
poverty
in
this
city
that
it
will
fill
back
up,
and
so
do
we
want
to
just
at
the
very
least,
maintain
the
sites
that
are
full
and
manage
them
with.
You
know
all
of
the
services
that
the
soar
program
provides
like
toilets
and
showers
and
trash
pickup,
which
is
the
alternative,
which
is
what
we've
been
doing,
and
I've
got
to
say
that
that
has
been
working
in
my
district.
M
I'm
sure
that
you,
you
have
more
you
and
and
council
member
spars
that
have
much
more
experience
with
this
in
terms
of
having
additional
sites
in
your
respective
districts.
And
so
you
know
I.
I
will
always
really
heed
the
advice
of
those
folks
who
have
more
experience
than
I
do
with
the
unhoused
community
and
follow
the
lead
of
those
who
I
would
call
our
professionals
and
our
experts
like
jackie
and
reagan,
to
lead
that
discussion
as
well.
M
So
I
would
like
to
hear
from
from
staff
at
one
point
or
another
to
give
us
their
feedback
about
about
what
the
answer
is.
Maybe
have
a
schedule
agenda.
Is
this
on
a
separate
conversation
to
to
talk
about
the
sore
programs?
And
I
don't
know
if
maybe
an
upcoming
budget
and
we
can
shape
it
the
way
that
we
want
to
shape
it
and
we
can
call
it
whatever
it
is
that
we
want,
but
we
I
agree
with
you,
we
do
need
to
be
a
little.
M
We
need
to
move
forward
with
this
idea,
so
I'll
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
I
don't
know
what
the
answer
is,
because
whether
we
call
it
sanction
encampments
or
not
or
call
it
sore
programs,
the
problem
is,
is
we'll
have
to
abate.
If
we
want
those
waterways
to
be
clear
and
an
abatement
is
not,
you
know
from
what
I
understand
and
what
council
member
esparza
outlined
in
her
motion.
Is
that
that's
not
the
first.
You
know
that's
the
first
thing
that
we
want
to
do.
M
We
don't
want
to
use
abatement
to
enforce
clearance
of
a
of
an
area
and,
and
we
would
have
to
do
a
lot
of
abatement
around
waterways.
I
just
extreme
abatement
around
waterways.
I
just
don't
know
how
that
would
look,
and
I
don't
know
what
the
end
results
would
be,
because
I
feel
like
it's
it'll
be
cyclical,
it'll
be
empty
for
a
minute
and
then
people
will
come
back
and
then
we'll
have
to
wait.
M
And
then
you
know
over
and
over
the
same,
the
same
story
you've
been
hearing
from
many
of
our
our
staff,
who
actually
do
the
this.
This
very
difficult
work.
So,
whether
it's
today
or
a
separate
day,
I
do.
I
do
agree
with
you.
We
do
need
to
move
forward
and
at
some
point
another
identify
some
additional
sites
and
I'm
glad
that
you
and
and
supervisor
chavis
have
have
agreed
to
to
consider
one
in
your
districts.
M
M
Some
of
one
before
I
talk
about
a
concern
that
I
have
I
do
want
to
say
to
reagan
and
jackie.
Just
this
is
a
lot
of
success
and
that's
reflected
in
this
report.
It
you
know
it's
it's
braided
through
all
of
this
report,
it's
hard
to
to
miss
all
the
great
work.
That's
being
done,
I
mean
just
the
numbers
alone
are
significantly
different
from
what
2019
has
been
and
I
think
in
a
crisis.
M
This
is
what
you
all
do
and
you
produce
and
you
support,
and-
and
so
I
want
to
just
thank
you
for
that
and
and
jackie.
I
know
you've
you've
been
just
absolutely
of
the
needs
of
our
families
that
are
out
there.
So
I
really
appreciate
that,
and
I
really
appreciate
the
focus
that
you've
had
as
of
late
for
our
families.
M
M
M
I
don't
know
if
you've
got
the
whole
story?
Maybe
you
you
could
share
with
me
how
this
happened,
because
the
effectiveness
of
the
programming
meeting
and
its
goals
was
37
percent
due
to
challenges
outlined,
which
basically
was
just
they
said
the
pandemic
hit,
but
the
pandemic
hit
in
march
of
2020-
and
this
was
this
contract
was
started
in
july
of
2019.
D
D
N
N
M
Great
thank
you,
and
you
know
it
would
also
just
make
me
really
hesitant
about
continuing
to
rely
on
an
agency
that
hasn't
been
able
to
excel
in,
and
I
understand
this
is
this-
is
the
workforce
development
piece
that
they
that
they
might
have
not
excelled
in?
And
I'm
glad
that
you
put
this
out
to
bid
that
you
have
now
two
two
new
identified
new
partners.
M
And
so
you
know
I
I
would
want
us
to
really
vet
this
agency
through
our
city
attorney,
to
make
sure
that
they're
the
type
of
agency
that
we
want
to
continue
to
see
being
contracted
in
the
city.
I
have
questions
about
it.
I'm
not
sure
that
that
they
are-
and
I
know
that
this
is
in
the
mayor's
budget
and
and
because
they're
just
in
the
mayor's
budget
doesn't
mean
that
we
get
to
contract
with
them.
M
I
think
we
have
to
vet
them
a
a
bit
more
and
sort
this
piece
out,
and
so
I
would
ask
nora
for
us
to
for
you
to
help
us
take
a
look
at
some
of
the
issues
that
they've
been
dealing
with
and
and
to
see.
If
this
is
something
you
know
that
I'm
sure
there's
some
ethical
compliances
or
a
duties
that
we
ask
of
our
contractors.
F
Councilmember
rayness.
Could
I
just
speak
briefly
to
the
issue
of
what's
in
my
budget,
because
I
I
believe
I've
identified
them
in
goodwill
as
being
non-profits
that
we
worked
with
on
this
san
jose
bridge
program.
I
think
that's
you're
referring
to
is
that
right,
right,
yeah
the
direction
is
merely
to
expand
the
program,
but
obviously
the
issue
of
rfps
and
who
exactly
gets
the
contract
is
still,
of
course,
subject
to
all
the
standard
legal
processes
that
staff
goes
through.
So
I
I
don't
think
we've
ever
had
a
mayor's
budget
message.
M
I
appreciate
that
the
the
other
piece
is,
I
really
appreciate
the
the
motel
voucher
program
and
that
shift
from
safe
parking
for
our
families
into
the
motel
vouchers.
I
think
that's
really
worked
for
for
our
families,
and
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
that.
I
also
am
hoping
that
maybe
you
can
disaggregate
in
the
future
the
ports
in
terms
of
how
many
families
and
how
many
children
we've
served.
M
I
want
to
shout
it
from
the
rooftop
so
and
I
want
to
just
be
accurate
about
those
numbers.
So
we,
if
we
can
get
in
the
future,
that
would
be
wonderful
and,
and
that
and
and
the
the
other
piece
is,
you
know
the
motel
voucher.
I
was
really
impressed
with
the
number
of
children
that
were
where
were
being
served.
M
We
don't
see
them
because
they're
couch
surfing
right,
we
don't
see
them
because
moms
and
dads
want
to
keep
them
safe
and
they
want
to
keep
their
families
together.
And
so
I
really
just
want
to
commend
you
for
the
work
that
you're
doing
that
is
wasn't.
Maybe
typical,
or
you
wasn't
part
of
your
everyday
thing
that
you
did,
and
so
I
really
want
to
thank
you
for
that,
because
it
means
a
lot
of
these
children
get
to
have
the
support
and
oh
and
before
I
get
emotional,
I'm
just
gonna
say
I.
M
L
Thanks
mayor,
where,
where
to
begin,
thank
you
to
staff,
house
housing
and
pr
staff
who
have
done
just
a
tremendous
job
over
the
past
year,
and
I
thought
the
presentations
were
impressive
and
and
very
heartening.
Despite
the
challenges
we
faced
and
I
I
have
to
give
neil
a
shout
out
for
the
core
values
he
highlighted.
I
really
liked
the
build
measure
and
learn
with
data
and
be
bold
and
iterate,
and
you
know
those
values
give
me
some.
L
Some
hope
that
we
can
improve
the
sadly
the
trajectory
we're
on
which
isn't
isn't
great,
despite
all
the
good
work
staff's
been
doing.
I
also
want
to
thank
councilmember
esparza
for
doing
a
lot
of
heavy
lifting,
pointing
out
all
those
recommendations,
and
I
thought
making
a
very
cogent
argument
for
why
that's
the
package
that
should
move
forward-
and
I
think
it
highlighted
for
me
just
the
high
degree
of
overlap
we
all
have.
There's
there's,
certainly
no
silver
bullet
here.
L
You
know,
there's
there's
this
is
not
easy
and
I
think,
we're
generally
aligned.
I
think
we're
kind
of
talking
about
emphasis
and
maybe
some
some
areas
where
we
might
want
to
experiment
and
take
some
risks.
Frankly,
and
that's
kind
of
the
conversation
I
think
we're
having,
of
course
we're
not
spending
a
lot
of
time
tonight
talking
about
the
the
real
solution,
as
as
I
think
councilmember
sparsa
pointed
it
out,
which
is
really
housing.
L
Production
we've
got
to
build
a
lot
more
housing
of
all
types
and
that's
kind
of
beyond
the
scope
of
any
action
we
take
tonight.
But
certainly
we
know
we
need
a
lot
more
housing
and
I
would
argue
of
all
kinds.
You
know:
market
rate,
permanent,
supportive
emergency,
probably
shelter
beds,
facilities
for
mental
health
and
addiction,
treatment,
there's
so
much
there,
and
I
also
I
liked
the
list
of
other
strategies
related
to
that
so
boarding
care
and
that
kind
of
disappearing,
locally
and-
and
you
know,
expanded
services
for
mental
health
and
addiction.
L
So
I
I
will
get
into
that.
I
will
offline
ask
councilmember
sparser
for
that
list
that
she
ran
through
quickly
because
it
sounded
like
the
right
list
of
strategies.
I
guess
in
the
spirit
of
focusing
and
trying
to
move
us
on
here
you
know
I've
I've
been
kind
of
advocating
for
services
and
setbacks,
and
I
think,
as
the
mayor
said,
his
budget
memo
really
covers
services,
I'm
very
interested
to
see
over
the
next
couple
of
months.
L
L
I
think
there's
a
lot
to
dig
in
on
there
a
ton
of
great
work
done,
but
to
me
that
should
be
an
emphasis,
because
people
living
on
our
street
should
not
be
living
in
total,
squalor
and
obviously
the
whole
community
and
our
environment
is
better
off
if
we
can
increase
investments
in
sanitation,
trash
removal,
etc.
So
I
think
that's
been
covered
and
we
don't
disagree
on
that.
On
the
setbacks
front,
you
know
my
thinking
here
is
that
maybe
setbacks
despite
the
challenges,
maybe
a
better
approach
than
sanctioning
camps.
L
Unlike
what
oakland's
trying
to
pull
off,
which
I
agree
is
probably
just
not
feasible
picking
one
institution,
let's
say
schools,
picking
a
very
and
I
agree
with
differing
to
staff,
on
what
the
setback
should
be
and
taking
that
that
approach
is
an
experiment.
Frankly,
saying:
let's
see
if
let's
see
what
what
it
takes
to
implement,
let's
see
if
it
actually
improves
conditions
for
our
entire
community,
including
our
own
house
residents.
Let's
see
what
the
staff
cost
is,
let's
see
what
the
unintended
consequences
are.
L
Let's
see
if
this
is
helpful
or
not
my
thought
process
on
it
is
if
we
can
start
to
identify
some
of
those
setbacks,
it
may
over
time
reduce
the
number
of
areas
and
types
of
situations
we
have
to
respond
to,
and
it
may
ultimately
increase
efficiency
of
service
delivery,
because
some
of
our
encampments
that
exist
outside
of
those
setbacks
would
be
a
little
bit
larger,
but
there
are
no
doubt
challenges
and
risks
there.
I
totally
acknowledge
that
and
to
try
to
implement
setbacks
all
at
once
on
a
variety
of
institutions
probably
won't
work.
L
I'd
also
offer
that
maybe
for
our
creeks,
where
we've
already
seen
huge
environmental
degradation,
we've
lost
lawsuits
that
are
very
expensive.
You
know
we're
not
going
to
a
100
foot.
200
foot
setback,
pipes
isn't
feasible,
but
maybe-
and
again
I
don't
know
if
this
will
work,
maybe
50
feet
would
reduce
the
amount
of
trash
going
into
the
creek,
but
still
allow
people
to
basically
live
where
they
are,
and
I
don't
know
I
mean
I've
walked
along
our
creeks
recently.
L
There
are
literally
encampments
right
on
the
embankment
where
the
trash
is
just
falling
down
into
the
water.
So,
maybe
again,
incrementally
iteratively,
looking
at
data
listening
to
what
staff's
experience
on
the
ground
listening
to
our
own
house
residents,
I'm
just
pushing
for
kind
of
incremental
improvements
in
our
policies,
and
it
feels
to
me,
like
setbacks,
are
a
heck
of
a
lot
more
feasible
to
start
with
and
start
quickly
moving
on
than
trying
to
sanction
a
specific
encampment.
L
I
think
the
mayor's
laid
out
some
of
those
challenges
and
I'm
not
discounting
them
at
all,
and
you
know
offline,
I'm
happy
to
look
at
locations
and
land
and
partnering
with
with
other
outside
agencies
in
district
10
as
well.
I
don't
think
it's
easy.
I
think
that's
why
I'm
more
interested
in
starting
with
setbacks
versus
sanctioned
encampments,
but
I
don't
think
it
has
to
be
either
or
they're,
not
mutually
exclusive.
I
just
think
one's
a
lot
easier
and
we
could
start
learning
and
trying
things
and
maybe
we'll
decide
it
doesn't
work.
L
Maybe
neither
strategy
works
either
way,
definitely
believe
in
increasing
services,
because,
while
housing
is
the
long-term
correct
solution,
we
can't
not
manage
what's
going
on
in
the
streets
every
day,
and
I
know
we've
been
doing
more,
but
we're
gonna
have
to
do
a
lot
more.
So
that's
I
don't
have
an
addition
or
amendment
to
the
motion,
but
I
just
wanted
to
lay
out
a
little
bit
of
of
my
thought
press
on
process
on
this
at
this
point,
so
I
will
leave
it
there.
Thank
you
for
listening.
Q
Q
Q
You
know
we
were
just
looking
recently
at
the
success
of
the
first
bridge
housing
location,
which
it's
indeed
we
say
it's
in
district
four,
but
I
know
it's
across
the
street
from
district
four,
so
it's
officially
in
district
three,
but
from
what
I,
from
what
we've
just
learned.
172
percent
of
people
who
have
been
placed
in
that
bridge
housing
site
have
been
moved
to
permanent
housing
within
120
days.
Q
It's
a
very
good
success
story
and
it
shows
that
this
can
work
and
that
we
can
find
locations
for
people
and
and
move
them
into
permanent
solutions.
By
having
places
like
this-
and
you
know
back
to
jackie's
point
from
before,
it
was
very
hard
at
the
beginning
to
find
locations
for
this.
It
was
very
hard
to
find
community
support
for
these
kind
of
things,
but
I
think
I
do
think
several
things
have
changed
since
the
last
time
we
tried
it.
One
is
that
we
have
some
proof
of
success
of
a
site
now.
Q
The
other
is
that
we
that
there's
a
there's
a
much
bigger
current
situation
with
homelessness
in
communities
where
so
that
people
now
say
the
choices
between
finding
locations
in
our
district
or
having
what
the
current
situation
in
our
neighborhoods,
and
so
I
do
think
that
that
you
know
I'm
personally
willing
back
to
with
council
member
raynes
asked
in
the
question.
I'm
I'm
very
willing
and
ready
to
go
talk
to
my
community
about
locations
and
and
find
places,
and
I
think,
as
we
said,
every
district
needs
to
have
them.
Q
What
we're
hearing
from
residents
and
what
we
heard
from
a
lot
of
our
advocates
tonight
is
people
aren't
willing
to
relocate
across
the
city
right.
They
live
in
a
district.
They
live
near
where
they,
where
their
home
was,
they
want
to
stay
close
to
their
families
or
their
connections
to
the
community,
and
so
we
need
locations
that
are
that
are
all
across
the
city,
because
we're
not
going
to
find
a
central,
sanctioned
location
and
convince
people
to
move
to
those
locations
and
stay
there.
Q
So
this
has
to
be
a
city-wide
solution,
so
I
think
we
have
to
keep
that
in
mind
back
to
the
question
about
sanctioned
encampments.
You
know
I
get
a
little
bit
lost
in
the
in
the
semantic
discussion.
I
think
I
mean
in
my
mind
and
that's
why
you
know
one
of
the
items
of
the
memo
that
councilman
foley
and
I
put
out
was
about
expanding
current
store
locations
and
finding
more
solar
locations
in
my
mind,
once
you're
picking,
you're
picking
and
providing
services
to
a
sore
location.
Q
In
some
sense
you
have
a
sanctioned
encampment.
You
know
it
may
not
be
sanctioned
in
a
legal
sense.
It
may
not
be
exactly
what
mayor
is
is
concerned
about,
but
you
provided
hygiene
and
dumpsters
and
and
resources
at
that
camp.
In
some
sense,
you
you
have
a
de
facto
sanction
encampment,
that's
what
I
think
of
when
I'm
thinking
of
sanctioning
encampments
and
maybe
we're
talking
it
across
across
each
other.
But
finding
those
additional
locations
to
provide
services
will
improve
the
situation
for
our
neighborhoods.
Q
So
that's
why
the
memo
that
we
put
out
talks
about
finding
more
locations
for
those
kinds
of
services
and-
and
that
would
be
that
would
be
the
first
step
before
the
last
resort
of
abatement
in
certain
situations-
and
I
I
do
thank
councilmember
esparza
for
adding
the
word
safety.
I
when
we,
when
we
drafted
a
memo,
we
tried
to
make
that
point
that
you
made
about
that.
Being
the
first
thing-
and
I
you
know,
we
talked
about
posing
a
hazard
to
the
health
among
household
residents
and
I
guess
we
met
health
and
safety.
Q
So
I'm
glad
you
put
that
that
terminator.
That
to
me
is
the
primary
objective
here
is
locations
that
pose
a
safety
hazard.
Health
hazard
are
first,
you
know
in
terms
of
the
places
that
we
have
to
be
concerned
about,
and
they
have
to
abate
when
we
rise
to
that
level
and
in
addition
to
the
environmental
impacts
and
creeks
and
waterways,
I'm
a
little.
I,
the
only
thing
I
want
to
say
is:
I'm
a
little
concerned.
I've
been
a
little
bit.
Q
Q
I
think
that
that
covers
most
of
the
points
I
would
make.
I
do
think
it's
important
for
us
to
to
be
aware
of
what's
going
on
in
each
of
our
districts
and
find
and
find
locations
that
are
a
problem
or
I
was
going
to
just
mention.
I
know
councilmember.
As
far
as
I
talked
about
fires,
I
mean
the
big
issue
in
our
district
are
the
encampments
that
are
right
behind
neighborhoods
right
behind
people's
backyards.
We
have
regularly
tree
fires
right
behind
people's
houses
that
are
putting
our
communities
at
risk.
Q
Those
are
the
kind
of
situations
that
we
need
to
be
looking
at,
whether
it's
near
mobile
home
parks,
which
are
a
big
issue
for
fires
or
near
residences
where,
where
fires
are
being
set.
So
to
me
those
kinds
of
health
and
safety
issues
are
important
to
our
district,
but
we
need
to
first
locate
the
locations
where
we
can
provide
services
where
people
are
and
and
offer
others
to
potentially
relocate
there,
because
if
the
abatement
shouldn't
just
be
chasing
people
away,
we
have
to
have
a
place
for
them.
Q
Q
But
I
think
that
if
we
focus
on
a
lot
of
these
issues
and
work
collectively,
we
can
get
a
better
handle
on
it
as
we
build
more
housing
as
we
find
more
locations
for
people
to
be
temporarily
housed,
and
so
I'm
excited
about
the
fact
that
we've
kind
of
worked
together
and
up
with
a
whole
bunch
of
memos
and
through
council
members.
As
far
as
calculator
as
far
as
amazing
spreadsheet,
we
got
it
all
together
and-
and
I
look
forward
to
voting
for
this
motion.
O
Thank
you.
I
really
appreciate
the
conversation
we're
having
around
this
this
issue,
this
really
important
issue,
and
first
I
want
to
thank
staff
for
your
presentation
reagan.
It's
true.
It's
clear
that
your
heart
and
passion
is
really
directed
towards
helping
the
unhoused
and
finding
them
and
treating
them
with
respect
and
humanity
that
really
came
through
in
your
report,
and
it
touched
me
deeply.
O
Neil
and
your
team.
The
beautify
san
jose
team
is
also
also
very
dedicated
in
helping
make
our
communities
better
for
all
involved,
both
the
unhoused
and
the
housed
and
keeping
everybody
safe
and
protected.
So
I
appreciate
the
both
of
the
staff
reports
and
all
that
you
had
to
say
and
all
the
and
jackie
and
all
of
the
data
that
you
had
as
well.
O
I
also
want
to
thank
the
community
members
who
stayed
with
us
and
spoke
with
such
heart
and
passion
over
the
issue
of
helping
the
unhoused.
I
I
truly
listen
to
all
of
your
words
and
I
think
the
council
is
really
one
clearly
by
all
of
the
memos
wants
to
find
a
solution,
but
there
isn't
an
easy
fix,
but
hence
all
of
the
different
discussion
around
sanction,
encampments
or
source
sites
or
schools,
or
even
abatements
as
a
as
a
last
resort.
But
I
think
we're
all.
O
O
We
want
and
clearly
by
our
priority
settings
session
last
week,
where
the
number
one
priority
item
was:
the
merger
of
the
two
housing
unhoused
housing
housing
items
that
council
member
mayhem
and
myself
put
forward.
It
received
10
of
11
votes
so
that
10
out
of
11.,
that's
pretty
impressive,
and
that
shows
the
focus
of
the
council
on
trying
to
get
a
handle
on
on
how
on
the
unhoused
and
that
means
treating
them
with
respect,
treating
them.
O
Humanely
but
also
being
concerned
about
the
effects
on
the
neighbors
nearby,
where
fires
may
be
causing
them
concerns
and
very
serious
concerns
near
senior
senior
mobile
home
parts
or
like
council
member
colin
just
mentioned.
I
have
a
lot
of
encampments
right
on
the
other
side
of
retaining
walls
and
near
right
next
to
residences,
who
are
very
very
concerned
about
that.
O
So
we
need
to
make
sure
that,
whether
it's
more
source
sites,
whether
it's
sanctioned
encampments,
that
we
provide
bathroom
facilities,
showers,
trash
pickup
services
and
supportive
services,
but
we
shouldn't
lose
sight
that
one
way
we
can
get
we
can
help
start
to
move
out
of.
This
is
by
building
more
housing,
and
I
just
want
to
mention
that
I
know
you
have
in
the
memo
was
a
staff's
memo.
There
was
a
list
of
many
affordable
housing
projects,
but
there's
five
that
are
missing
from
district
nine.
O
In
district
nine
alone
we
have
five
affordable
housing
projects,
one
approved
and
almost
ready
to
break
ground
and
the
rest
are
really
close
for
a
total
of
667
housing
units
and
some
of
those
are
supportive
housing
units.
So
it's
it's
really
exciting.
That
district
nine
is
having
a
lot
of
affordable
housing
come
in,
come
to
its
area,
and
I
agree
that
with
councilmember
perales,
that
each
district
should
locate
an
area
for
sanctioned
encampment,
and
I
too
have
a
site
in
mind.
O
I
need
to
vet
it
out
a
little
bit
before
I
make
it
public
or
before
I
approach
the
individual,
the
people
who
own
the
site,
but
it
would
be
a
good
location
and
truly,
I
know
jackie,
you
don't
want
to
do
the
community
outreach.
I
know
where
we've
been
with
the
community
route
outreach
in
district
9
way
before
I
was
a
council
member
when
bridge
housing
was
was
a
thing,
but
I
think
times
have
changed.
I
think
covet
has
shed
a
light
on
an
issue
that
was
more
hidden
or
more
that
before
kobud.
O
I
think
our
residents
tried
to
ignore,
but
now
with
kova
there's
there's
no
way
we
can
ignore
the
impact
of
the
of
our
unhoused
neighbors
and
how
we
need
to
help
them
and
help
take
care
of
them.
So
I
I
accept
council
member
paralyzes
challenge
to
try
and
locate
a
site.
I
don't
know
if
I'll
be
successful
either,
but
outreach
will
be
really
important.
O
That's
really
critical
in
district
9
and
I
may
get
a
lot
of
pushback,
but
I
think
it
really
is
important
that
every
district
try
to
do
its
part
as
it
as
it
relates
to
affordable
housing,
supportive
housing
and
sanctioned
encampments.
I
thank
you.
Councilmember
perales
for
paralysis,
esparza
for
your
spreadsheet
and
putting
together
all
of
the
memos
and
for
including
council
member
collins
in
mind.
I
think
we're
in
the
right
direction
have
we
found
the
solution
yet
that
tomorrow
we
can
snap
our
fingers
and
it's
over?
No.
O
This
is
going
to
take
a
lot
of
work,
but
I
think
we're
moving
closer
in
a
unified
direction
than
we
have
been
in
the
couple
of
years
that
I've
been
here
with
that.
I
will
conclude
my
comments
and
just
thank
you
all
for
showing
your
compassion
and
your
heart
and
understanding
and
humanity
for
the
unhoused
and
for
our
housed
residents
as
well.
Thank
you.
H
F
P
A
lot
of
folks
are
right
on
the
verge
they're
just
hanging
by
by
a
thread
and
let's
hope
that
we
don't
continue
to
see
those
numbers
rise.
But
I
do
have
a
great
concern
that
we
will
we'll
see
some
families
lose
their
their
their
homes
because
of
what's
happened
over
the
last
12
months.
At
this
point
right,
that's
my
dog
and,
and
so
so
I'll
make
a
very
quick
council
member.
P
I
understand
that
the
setback
may
be
difficult
to
define
the
only
concern
I
have
regarding
that
is
it
in
not,
I
guess,
in
defining
the
setback
it
defines
us
too
much,
but
in
not
defining
the
setback,
I'm
concerned
in
terms
of
how
we
then
look
at
these
sensitive
areas
and
how
we
put
a
that
equity
lens,
that's
becoming
so
important
to
us
and
we're
starting
to
really
understand
why
it's
so
important.
I
I
will
tell
you
you
know
I
I
I
submitted
the
memo
at
the
last
minute.
P
P
It
has
faced
many
many
challenges,
still
trying
to
figure
out
how
they're
going
to
reopen
children
that
weren't
connected
due
to
the
digital
divide,
and
we
had
to
invest
in
the
infrastructure
in
order
to
help
our
kiddos.
And
now
we
have
situations
in
this
district,
where
it's
becoming
very
difficult
for
our
superintendent
to
consider
opening
back
up,
because
there
is
a
a
a
perceived
or
a
real
danger.
P
I
A
The
effort
that
we've
learned
and
we'll
be
doing
with
beautiful
and
I
think
warrants
you
know,
continue
to
work
on
this.
I
think,
there's
you
know
an
effort
that
our
team
has
been
doing
to
you
know
to
map
things
out,
to
take
a
look
at
things
and
to
understand
kind
of
what
makes
things
work
and
what
are
the
challenges
are,
and
so
you
know,
I
think,
there's
some
opportunity
to.
A
Maybe
you
know
aligning
it
to
kind
of
what
councilmember
mayhem
said
test
out
some
areas
and
look
at
some
focus
areas.
I
think
right
now,
the
way
the
teams
were
looking
at
it.
You
know
an
overall
buffer
around
all
schools,
I
think,
would
be
really
tough
to
do.
But
you
know
there's
ways
we
can
look
at
some
more
specific
pilots.
You
know,
look
at
focused
areas
and
more
in
most
impacted
neighborhoods.
A
A
A
We
don't
want
that
to
limit
us,
but
we
do,
I
think,
would
need
time
to
look
at
different
solutions
and
try
different
things.
You
know
I
mean
you
know
the
one
thing
that
we
as
we
as
a
department
are
looking
at
this
and
working
with
our
partners
in
the
eoc
I
mean
you
know.
We
know
this
isn't
going
to
be
we're
not
making
heroes
and
champions
out
of
this.
A
A
We
can
take
another
step
forward
again
right,
so
I
think
in
that
mode,
looking
at
identifying
some
maybe
appropriate
buffers
that
again
we
as
staff
have
to
be
able
to
manage
we're
still
dealing
and
working
inside
covid
response.
So
I
think
it's
a
challenge
for
us
and
you
know
setting
forward
to
where
we
will
be
in
the
next
fiscal
year.
A
M
F
E
E
F
P
Yeah,
thank
you,
so
I
I
I
was
talking
and
saying
some
really
great
things,
and
none
of
you
could
hear
me
but
I'll
try
it
again,
I'm
glad
that
they
voted
and
and
and
hope
that
we
can
continue
to
collaborate
with
the
district.
As
you
know,
we
have
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
schools
within
close
vicinity
of
each
other.
P
And
it's
not
that
that
I
I
think
that
our
houseless
population
all
pose
a
danger,
but
some
of
these
folks
who
are
dealing
with
mental
health
issues
or
who
are
dealing
with
addictions
and
and
they're
in
the
middle
of
their
high.
You
know
I
can
we
we've
seen
some
behaviors
that
are
just
not
healthy
for
our
kiddos,
so
so
I'll
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
P
The
other
question
that
I
had,
and
maybe
the
vaccination
team
might
have
a
response
for
me,
but
you
know
when
we're
thinking
of
vaccinating
our
our
folks
who,
who
who
now
we're
prioritizing
and-
and
you
said
that
every
single
person
who
is
houseless
is
priority.
Now
I
don't
know
how
well
we
can
coordinate,
but
given
the
fact
that
it
sounds
like
it's
very
difficult
to
go
and
find
them
again
for
that
second
dose,
whether
it's
because
they've
been
moved
or
they
move
themselves
or
whatever.
R
P
So
so
let
me
just
let
me
just
say
the
following,
because
I
think
that
sometimes
you
know
I
I'm
not.
You
know
I'm
not
an
expert
nor
I
do.
I
pretend
to
be
in
any
way-
and
I
tread
on
on
these
issues
very
lightly
trust
me,
because
I
know
that
many
have
worked
much
closer
to
these
communities
than
I
ever
have.
But
what
I
do
know
is
that,
on
a
good
day,
you
know,
if
I'm
not
reminded
I'll,
miss
my
own
kids
vaccination
deadlines.
You
know
I've
got
four
of
them.
P
We
can
put
hotlines,
we
can
reserve
vaccination
appointments
but
getting
people
there,
but
if
we're
already
going
to
the
encampment,
we
got
them
in
our
our
our
bullseye.
In
the
moment
I
would
do
everything
and
anything
possible
to
try
and
get
the
j
and
j
to
this
community
in
particular,
because
if
you
don't
find
them
again
to
give
them
that
second
dose,
I
don't
even
know
what
the
what
the
window
opportunity
is
after
you
get
that
first
dose
how
much
grace
period
you
have.
P
But
I
don't
think
it's
it's
it's.
You
know
it's
great.
So
if
the
vaccination
team
that
we
have
is
is
responsible
for
coordinating
with
the
county,
I
would
say
that
this
has
to
be
a
community
that
has
to
have
the
j
j
and
it
had
and
done
at
the
encampment.
That's
that's
my
suggestion
so
with
that
I'll
just
go
ahead
and
leave
it
at
that.
P
Well,
the
last
question
I
have
is
it:
you
know:
if
we're
looking,
also
at
rvs
and
and
moving
rvs,
we,
you
know,
I
I'm
glad
that
we're
finally
talking
about
sanctioned
encampments
and
we
have
to
start
talking
also
about
where
we're
going
to
be
moving
rvs,
because
we
can't
just
have
rvs.
You
know
cruising
our
blocks,
trying
to
find
another
space
after
we've
moved
them
because
they
happen
to
be
in
sensitive
spots
as
well.
P
So
we
need
to
have
that
conversation
as
well
and
we
need
to
look
to
see
where
we
can
safely
park
them
and
and
of
course
reagan.
You
probably
have
the
statistics
and
the
data
on
what
cities
have
been
doing
a
successful
job,
but
you
know-
and
I
say
that,
as
as
I
see
several
rvs
parked
right
outside
of
my
house
at
this
moment,.
B
A
lot
of
time,
let
me
just
first
say
that
a
lot
of
what's
been
said
I
agree
with.
I
appreciated
all
the
comments
and
everything
that
councilmember
sparza
said,
especially
a
few
things
that
came
to
mind
is
when
she
mentioned
some
of
the
underlying
things
that
fuel
homelessness
that
are
clearly
outlined
in
the
new
planned
end
homelessness.
I
think
we
need
to
keep
those
in
mind
as
we
go
about
discussing
different
policy
issues,
everything
from
tenant
protections
to
even
minimum
wage
and
things
of
that
nature
right.
B
How
that
all
sort
of
plays
into
this
this
this
whole
situation.
So
I
thought
that
was
important
to
note.
I
also
just
wanna.
You
know,
I
think,
we've
all
acknowledged
that
it
seems
like
district
three.
Well,
it's
very
apparent
that
district,
three
and
district
seven
bear
the
brunt
of
some
of
these
issues
and
appreciate
the
photos
that
were
shown.
I've
seen
those
myself
and
yeah
it's
unfortunate
that
the
things
have
gotten
to
where
they've
gotten.
B
But
I'm
glad
that
some
of
some
of
this
is
being
said
and
sort
of
brought
to
the
surface.
So
I
just
have
three
questions.
The
first
one
is,
you
know
there
were
some
advocates
that
have
mentioned
time
and
again
about
self-governed
sort
of
sanctioned
encampments,
and
so
what
I'm
curious
about?
Maybe
staff
or
anyone
that
thinks
they
can
chime
in
on
this
is.
N
F
N
So
they
create
structures
as
not
only
physical
structures
but
community
structures
within
their
groups
and
the
difference
between
soar
and
a
sanction.
Encampment
is
right.
Now
the
city
is
not
engaged
in
those
organized
structures.
We
don't
we
don't
come
in,
we
don't
establish
rules
and
guidelines
on
how
the
communities
function
and,
and
while
we
are
providing
services
to
the
sites,
it's
much
different
than
our
bridge
housing
communities.
N
Where
we
have
full
assessments
with
people,
we
bring
all
kinds
of
different
services
to
to
the
site.
We
have
a
housing
goal
in
terms
of
their
next
step.
That's
part
of
the
plan.
We
don't
do
that
kind
of
planning
with
people
who
are
living
in
our
soar
sites
we
offer
as
much
as
we
can,
but
we
don't
have
the
level
of
services
and
when
a
city
sanctions
it
then
the
next
question
that
we
have
brought
before
the
council
is
well.
N
And
so
in
my
mind,
once
we
start
sanctioning,
we
begin
to
then
ask
the
question:
with
security:
how
is
the
site
covered?
We
have
services
on
site
all
the
time
we
have.
Somebody
who
lives
on
this
place,
that's
completely
different
than
the
source
sites,
and
I
would
envision
if
we
sanctioned
something
you
would
require
us
and
we
went
to
a
community,
and
we
said
this
is
sanctioned.
N
That's
when
the
community
says:
okay,
well,
city,
if
you're
sanctioning
this,
you
have
some
additional
responsibility
to
ensure
the
safety
of
not
only
us
who
live
outside
but
of
the
residents
who
live
there
as
well,
and
that's
just
not
what
we're
providing
in
the
source
sites.
So
it's
it
is
a
touch.
It
is
sanitary,
it's
health,
but
it's
it.
We
don't
govern.
We
don't
provide
security.
B
I
guess
the
reason
I
was
mentioning
govern,
because
it
seemed
to
me
that
a
lot
of
the
advocates
put
a
lot
of
weight
behind
a
self-governed
model,
but
it
seems
to
me
that
some
of
that's
already
happening,
but
we
know
that
in
even
in
in
in
local
government,
even
when
things
are
organized,
things
can
still
be
messy
and
what
I've
seen
of
the
self-governed
encampments
that
exist.
Currently,
if
that's,
what
we're
going
to
call
them,
some
of
them
seem
to
be
in
disarray
right
and
so
I'm.
B
I
guess
I
just
wanted
to
put
that
out
there
that
I'm
not
sure
a
self-governed
model
is
going
to
be
much
better
than
what
we've
been
seeing
so
so
I'll
stop
there.
Let
me
ask
you
another
question
jack.
You
know.
I
think
I've
asked
you
this
before,
but
I
don't
remember
the
answer,
and
this
is
the
reason
I'm
asking
it
again:
the
big
blue
tent
for
the
community,
the
south
hall.
N
B
Okay,
I
guess
so
that's
what
I
was
sort
of
getting
that
is.
I
guess
I'd
like
to
see
to
the
extent
possible
for
it
to
be
utilized
as
long
as
possible
right.
I
would
hate
for
you
all
and
the
folks
living
there
to
vacate
june
and
then
it
sit
empty
for
six
months
more,
and
so
I
don't
know
if
there's
any
way
that
that
could
be
tied
as
it
relates
to
the
programming
of
the
convention
center.
But
if
they
can,
I
think
that'd
be
worth
a
worthwhile
thing
to
look
at
so.
B
N
B
N
B
Okay,
wonderful.
The
other
question
I
had
is,
as
it
relates
to
safe
parking.
I
understand
that
vta,
for
example,
entered
into
some
sort
of
agreement
at
east
ridge
mall
some
time
back,
and
I
don't
think
it
went
well
or
some
something
happened.
I'm
not
sure
what
level
of
interaction
the
city
had
in
that
situation,
but
if
there
was
there
any
interaction
between
the
city
and
vta
and
east
ridge,
mall
reagan
or
jackie
during
the
course
of
that
safe
parking
for
rvs
or.
B
B
B
Okay,
wonderful,
so
so
the
reason
I
mentioned
that
is,
as
we
know,
I
think
councilmember
carrasco
mentioned
it.
We
all
get
calls
about
it
daily
and
that's
the
rvs
parking
all
across
the
streets
and
things
of
that
nature.
Some
of
the
photos
that
council
member
esparza
showed
obviously
had
a
lot
of
rvs
there,
and
so
in
south
san
jose,
for
example,
at
the
vtl
vta
santa
teresa
park
and
ride
station,
it's
essentially
vacant
and
so
I'd
like
to
and
I'm
not
sure
if
it
needs
to
be
part
of
the
motion.
B
B
N
B
Okay,
I
appreciate
it,
and-
and
so
let
me
just
end
by
just
saying
I
know-
there's
also
been
mention
of
community
outreach
as
it
relates
to
sanctioned
encampments
as
it
relates
to
bridge
housing.
But
I
just
want
to
gently
remind
folks
that,
during
the
course
of
the
approvals
for
the
bridge
housing
communities
in
district
two,
there
was
zero
public
process,
and
so
I
think
it's,
I
think,
there's
some
room
there
to
move
forward
in
the
same
type
of
way.
B
F
E
I
R
Q
D
E
R
L
F
As
we
did
vote,
I
just
it
comes
from
a
problem.
If
you
want
to
make
us
a
follow-up
motion,
I'm
happy
to
entertain
that,
but
I
think
we
just
ought
to
go
straight
to
the
motions.
So
why
don't
we
vote
on
this
motion?
First
from
council
member
esparza,
and
I
won't
recite
it
unless
anyone
has
a
question
about.
D
F
C
F
L
E
F
F
F
My
understanding
is,
the
question
was
called
and
we
voted
to
call
the
question.
I
don't
believe
that
prevents
additional
emotions,
but
I
believe
it
restricts
additional
debate.
So
if
councilmember
peralta
has
wanted
to
make
another
motion,
I
want
to
give
him
a
chance
to
do
so.
Have
an
up
or
down
bow.
D
C
C
F
F
Given
the
very
lateness
of
the
hour,
I'm
going
to
urge
strongly
all
my
colleagues
keep
their
comments
to
one
minute
or
less,
because
we
got
two
more
items
to
discuss
tonight.
Counselor,
would
you
consider
consider
some
constraints
on
city
staff
time,
at
least
until
there
is
a
very
clear
consensus
by
the
council,
member
and
county
and
anybody
else
that
that's
a
site
that
we're
going
to
move
forward
with.
C
I
think
we
heard
from
our
colleagues
that
there
may
be
a
willingness
to
explore
some
other
sites
across
the
city
and
then
and
then
I'd
love
to
have
a
minute
as
well.
I
could
limit
my
comments
to
just
sort
of
advocate
why
I
think
this
is
important
to
support,
but
I
would
be
willing
to
support
that
that
notion,
as
you
just
suggested,.
F
Q
C
I
can
guarantee
you
the
convention
center
as
they
begin
to
reopen
we're
looking
at
within
a
year,
maybe
a
little
longer
as
well
another
several
hundred
people
with
nowhere
to
go
if
we
don't
identify
other
locations.
So
that's
my
concern
without
identifying
these
other
locations
and-
and
I
feel
that
it's
extremely
important-
that
we
put
an
effort
in
to
identify
additional
locations
again
bm
source
sites
or
sanction
encampments,
and
that's
why
I'm
asking
my
colleagues
to
to
support
this
thanks.
M
M
C
No,
it's
essentially
opening
up
the
opportunity
for
temporary
sanction
encampments,
not
just
that
one.
I
am
suggesting,
and
I
think
our
colleagues
have
said
that
they
would.
You
know
some
some
have
suggested
they'd
be
willing
to
maybe
identify
some
sites
in
their
districts
as
well.
So
it
would
allow
us
that
opportunity,
because
that
was
not
included
in
councilmember
esparza's
motion.
Okay,.
D
N
D
D
D
D
City-Wide
again,
I
think
we're
back
to
where
we
started
where
the
mayor
asked,
who
and
who
would
like
to
offer
a
specific
site
in
their
district,
and
then
we
start
diverting
money
that
we're
using
to
house
people
now.
So
I
can't
support
the
motion
as
it's
put
forward
again.
If
it
were
just
the
site
in
district
three
that
councilman
perales
is
discussing,
then
I
could
support
exploring
that
and
moving
forward,
but
it
just
doesn't
make
sense
to
do
this
citywide
and
divert
our
resources
to
this.
F
I'm
very
sympathetic
council
member
of
spars
points-
I
will
say
I'm
very
tentatively
willing
to
support
this.
Only
this
is
a
very
low
touch,
effort
from
staff,
because
we've
got
way
too
much
that
staff
has
got
to
be
involved
in
on
important
housing
projects.
They'll
get
people
actually
housed,
and
I
just
I
know
what
it
costs
in
san
francisco,
it's
more
than
60
000
per
space
for
an
individual
in
the
sanctioned
encampment,
which
is
way
too
much
money
to
be
spending
on
people
sleeping
outside.
E
C
K
E
Thank
you
mayor
and
city
council.
I
know
babar
on
behalf
of
the
california
apartment
association,
I'd
just
like
to
thank
the
city
for
their
efforts,
especially
michelle
michael
for
their
outreach
and
for
partnering,
with
the
california
department
association
to
educate
professors
on
the
rental
relief
program.
E
Ca
is
committed
to
assisting
the
state,
the
county
and
the
city
in
an
effective
role.
Out
of
this
montana
program,
owners
and
residents
have
struggled
over
the
past
year,
the
weather,
the
this
pandemic
and
rental
housing
providers
have
gone
the
extra
mile
to
assist
their
attendance,
but
the
rental
relief
funds
will
help
continue
this
effort,
while
providing
property
owners
of
vital
funds
to
operate
their
buildings
and
pay
their
mortgage.
E
G
Hi,
thank
you
where
beekman,
oh
those
are
really
nice
words
from
the
previous
speaker.
When
I
mentioned
earlier,
you
know
we
have
advocacy
at
the
state
and
federal
level.
You
know
in
our
you
know:
elected
officials
like
ashkara
and
the
previous
speaker,
who
are
you
know
working
for.
You
know
a
process
to
be
helpful.
You
know
to
all
sides
and
it's
a
lot
to
learn.
G
E
Good
evening
mayor
vice
mayor
members
of
council,
my
name
is
wasser
castro
working
partnerships
here
to
provide
comment
and
to
applaud
council
staff
and
all
non-profit
partners
involved
in
moving
forward
with
this
local
rental
assistance
program.
We're
very
appreciative
that
council
chose
to
move
forward
with
the
hybrid
model
to
have
a
local
program
to
administer
treasury
funds,
which
are
not
required
to
abide
by
certain
requirements
under
sb
91.
E
E
E
E
D
E
O
O
O
N
O
Great,
and
also
I
wanted
to
offer-
or
I
committed
anyway
to
the
realtors-
have
these
marketing
meetings
three
or
four
times
a
week,
and
the
subject
came
up
of
the
rental
assistance
a
couple
of
months
ago
and
they
kind
of
had
the
information
all
wrong,
but
they
would
be
very
interested
in
having
someone
come
and
speak
with
them
on
how
this
is
being
implemented.
So
who
should
I
connect
them
with
michelle.
K
F
Thank
you,
that's
it
for
me
great.
Thank
you
very
much
councilmember.
I
want
to
thank
everyone.
Who's
worked
so
hard
on
this
effort,
including
reagan
henninger
and
lee
wilcox,
michelle
mcgurk
and
many
others
and
jim
shannon,
I
believe
also
on
the
budget
side.
All
right.
Any
other
comments
all
right.
Let's.
D
K
Our
partners
are
having
a
very
technical
conversations
with
them
and
their
technical
staff,
but
they
have
it.
The
good
thing
is
their
program
includes
a
data
sharing
component,
so
people
agree
that
their
information
can
be
shared
with
the
local
agencies
when
they
participate
in
the
state
program.
So
it's
it's
all
being
worked
out
and
it
should
it
should
go
pretty
well,
we've
had
very
positive
conversations
us
in
the
county,
with
the
state.
K
K
Yeah,
so
we're
we're
having
a
lot
of
conversations
internally
about
things
that
we
can
do.
I
don't
want
to
sort
of
get
ahead
of
some
of
the
processes
that
are
going
on
within.
You
know,
as
we
look
at
recovery
operations,
but
ensuring
that
all
of
these
federal
programs
that
are
coming
online
are
accessible
to
our
residents
is
is
something
that
quite
honestly,
council
member
keeps
me
up
at
night.
D
Thank
you
michelle.
I
think
that's
no
small
thing,
because
again
we
have
the
data
from
the
last
round
and
the
state
is
unfortunately
making
this
really
difficult
and
then
you
add,
the
10
versus
the
15
issue
with
the
federal
government
and
a
lot
of
our
most
vulnerable
tenants
are
being
left
out
well,
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
stepping
up
thanks
and
figuring
it
out.
I
know
there's
a
lot
to
figure
out
on
this,
so
thank
you
and
thanks
to
all
the
partners
for
doing
that.
Thank
you.
M
Thank
you.
I
I
just
wanted
to
get
some
a
little
bit
of
clarity
on
and
once
again
I'm
gonna
sing
my
praises
for
our
housing
department.
You
also
included
our
sexual
assault,
along
with
our
domestic
violence,
nonprofits
that
served
this
particular
population
when
we
requested
it.
When
I
requested
it,
I
don't
know
last
year,
I
think
it
was,
and
I
wanted
to
know
if
there
is,
you
know
how
that
was
going
and
how
the
collaboration
with
some
of
these
gender-based
violence
groups
were
going.
K
So
yeah,
and
one
piece
that
is
good
news
council
member,
is
that
the
the
most
recent
faqs
from
the
federal
government
have
expanded
how
we
can
use
these
funds,
and
so
things
that
might
help
a
family
that
is
seeking
to
leave
a
domestic
violence
situation
are
much
more
clearly
eligible
with
the
new
guidelines
from
the
the
biden
administration.
So,
for
example,
if
somebody
needs
to
be
housed
in
a
motel.
E
M
They
either
come
through
because
of
sexual
assault
or
they
come
through
because
of
intimate
partner,
violence
and
and
there's
some
distinguishment
in
terms
of
how
they
they
arrived
there.
Although
we
know
that
there
might
be
an
intersectionality
that
that
that
that
is
hidden.
So
I'm
glad
to
I'm
glad
to
hear
that.
M
And
so
it's
it's
a
comprehensive
system
that
that
answers
the
call
not
only
to
the
folks
who
typically
will
pick
up
the
phone
and
ask
for
the
assistance,
but
those
folks
who
may
not
know
that
there
is
the
service
that
they
may
find
very
crucial
during
some
very
tragic
moments
that
can
allow
them
to
leave
where
they're
living
so
that
they
can
find
some
safety
for
their
children.
So
thank
you.
I
appreciate
that.
D
K
R
L
F
F
R
R
E
G
Okay,
thank
you.
I
will.
I
will
go.
Hopefully
I'm
being
heard
right
now.
Someone
can
correct
me,
otherwise,
I
I
wanted
to
quickly
offer
and
with
this
being
hud
issues
around
covid,
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
advocacy
from
our
state
elected
officials
and
federal
officials
at
this
time
again
they
to
clarify
they
understand
the
concepts
of
what
we're
in
right
now
and
that
part
of
their
ag
advocacy
is.
G
The
idea
is
that
you
know
covet
is
not
the
fault
of
everyday
people
and
they're
advocating
to
help
people
with
that,
we're
all
better
understanding.
You
know
our
rent
forgiveness
ideas
at
this
time.
Thank
you
and
it's
a
way
that
we
won't
have
to
hurt
each
other.
I'm
curious
for
myself.
What
will
be
our
next
steps
in
our
lives
of
kovid,
how
how
to
progress
and
move
forward
in
our
thinking
and
our
ideas
and
I'll
be
interested?
How
that
can
work?
Thank
you.
G
I
don't
really
understand
why
money's
been
taken
away
from
the
the
homeless
allocations.
We've
got.
We
just
talked
about
how
serious
this
problem
is,
and
and
yet
we're
still
taking
money
away
from
that
that
particular
category
and
I
might
be
missing
something-
it's
certainly
possible
that
I
don't
understand
something,
but
it's
just
really
odd
to
me
that,
while
we're
talking
about
how
serious
this
problem
is,
at
the
same
time,
we're
also
talking
about
taking
money
away
from
that
from
that
particular
category.
G
F
R
R
F
E
D
L
E
G
Can
someone
mute
themselves
else?
Someone
meets
themselves
may
need
to
do
that.
Okay,
it's
going!
It's
it's
good
now!
Thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
quickly
offers
a
good
meeting
today.
You
know
thanks
for
the
group
who
spoke
up
about
you
know
their
issues
within
you
know,
east
side
issues
again.
I
guess
about
how
how
they
can
take
care
of
themselves
as
young
people,
and
I
hope
you
can
offer
them
some
help,
and
you
know
the
the
work
that
I'm
doing
with
accountability
with
technology
and
open
public
policy.
G
I
mean
it's
really
hopeful
stuff
for
teenagers
who
are
possibly
not
feeling
good
or
people
like
myself
are
not
feeling
good
and
it
gives
a
little
hope
to
the
process.
You
know
the
the
the
gunman
situation.
That's
going
on
this
martyrdom
system
isn't
so
great,
and
I
I
suggest
the
open
public
policy
ideas
as
a
way
to
relieve
the
tension
and
what
can
be
really
good
about
our
future.
Thank
you.
E
E
I
don't
know
how
come
you
guys,
including
us
in
a
corporation
we're
not
even
a
food
store.
We
are
a
convenience
store
and
I
want
you
to
be
exclude
us
from
that
ordinance.
We
cannot
afford
that
one.
We
hardly
open
our
doors
and
we
are
living
on
ppp
loan
and
I
don't
know
why
san
jose
city
is
including
7-elevens
franchisee
inside,
without
even
letting
us
know.
C
C
G
J
Yeah,
thank
you.
I'd
also
like
to
bring
up
the
sanctioned
encampments
as
well.
I
think
that
it's
labeled,
you
can
call
it
transition
encampments.
You
don't
have
to
provide
security.
This
is
something
that
these
people,
they
they
don't
want
to
be
confined.
They
don't
want
rules,
it's
a
baby
steps
for
them.
They
go
straight
from
the
streets;
they
can
go
into
a
sanctioned
encampment
or
a
transitioning
one.
J
If
you
feel
like
that,
obligates
you
to
something
you
don't
have
to
control
the
entire
situation
and
the
idea
I
think
of
self-government
is
governance
is
related
to
the
concept
of
they
can
build
something
for
themselves
and
feel
proud
about
it.
Last
statement
is,
I
don't
feel
like
reagan's
explanation
regarding
the
transfer
of
funds
was
really
adequate.
I'll
have
a
look
at
that
later.
Maybe
I'm
missing
something
too,
but
it
clearly
said:
transfer
from
homeless
to
other
projects.
E
Can
you
hear
me
now
that's
better,
I'm
a
7-eleven
franchisee,
I'm
calling
regarding
ordnance
that
was
passed
to
it's
ordinance.
Number
three:
zero
five,
three
four
regarding
three
dollar
azure
pay
and
I'm
I'm
having
a
hard
time
understanding.
Was
there
city
council's
intentions
to
include
us
in
this
mandate,
because
we
are
independent
contractors
and
we
do
not
have
300
employees.
E
I
have
total
of
10
employees,
part-time
and
full-time,
and
this
will
raise
our
expenses
by
about
1500
per
week,
which
I
cannot
afford
and
7-eleven
takes
most
of
they
take
about
54
and
in
most
cases
our
take-home
is
way
less
than
private
mom-and-pop
schools.
We
are
no
different
than
small
business
owners
and
have
our
individual
tax
id
I'm
having
a
really
hard
time.
Understanding
how
the
city
of
san
jose
can
include
us
in
this
mandate.
Please
amend
us-
and
you
know
exclude
this-
exclude
us
from
this.
B
A
B
For
all
the
folks,
hopefully
still
on
the
line,
column
from
7-11
we've
been
filled
in
a
lot
of
phone
calls
about
the
hazard
pay
and
whether
it
applied
to
you
all.
I
can
tell
you
that
the
the
intention
was
for
it
to
not
apply
to
you
all
and
that
we've
been
in
contact
with
the
city
attorney
to
try
to
figure
out
what
needs
to
be
done
in
order
to
clarify
that.
So
just
for
everyone
on
here
calling
from
711
just
want
to.
Let
you
know
that.
E
O
E
E
Using
my
father's
laptop,
his
name
is
wendy.
He
is
also
a
7-eleven
franchisee
owner.
I'm
also
here
just
expressing
my
concerns
regarding
this
ordinance.
I
just
wanted
to
put
out
there.
I
understand
that
the
city
council
is
taking
action
on
this.
However,
I
believe
that
you
know
being
the
city
council
for
such
a
great
city
like
san
jose.
We
should
be
more
prepared
for
things
like
this
in
the
future
and
not
including
franchisees,
or
making
sure
that
we're
communicating
with.
L
E
E
E
E
So
let's
get
the
right
information
into
the
hands
that
people
can
get
this
done
and
over
with
so
we
can
actually
gain
something
out
of
this
pandemic
because
we're
all
hurting-
and
we
don't
know
how
to
survive,
we're
taking
every
single
precaution,
every
single
step
that
we
can
as
a
business
owner
and
as
being
a
small
business
owner,
there's
not
a
lot
of
ways
to
go
and
help.
Thank
you.
E
Yes,
you
know
I'm
a
7-eleven
franchisee
two,
so
I
have
a
same
scenario:
I
have
to
store
10
employees,
a
separate,
ei
and
number
from
7-11.
We
are
doing
very,
very
bad
in
the
stores
for
last
year
and
a
half,
and
I
think
we
should
not
be
burdened
with
this
three
dollar
pay
and
this
ordinance
was
for
the
employer
who
have
300
employees
and
we
hardly
have
10
employees
over
there,
and
we
are
told
by
our
franchisor
that
we
have
to
make
that
payment
to
our
employees.
E
So
we
want
you
guys
to
help
us
to
clarify
this
thing
so
that
we
are
not
burdened
with
this
thing.
If
that
happened,
we
will
go
out
of
business.
You
know
you
talk
about
this.
You
know
all
the
situation
due
to
this
pandemic.
You
know
we
are
this
in
the
same
situation
that
we
have
heard
by
this
very
badly.
So
we
need
your
help
to
reconsider
this.
Thank
you.