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City of San José, California
Community & Economic Development Committee of October 25, 2021
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A
B
B
C
C
D
C
C
E
Thank
you
so
much
council
member
chair,
foley,
rosalind
huey
deputy
city
manager.
Yes,
a
staff
indicated
in
our
memo
to
rules.
E
We
are
in
the
process
of
wrapping
up
negotiations
around
the
rfp
that
was
issued,
but
I
have
not
yet
finalized
that
and
until
it's
finalized
it
would
be
inappropriate
to
bring
it
to
discuss
it
at
ced.
So
we'll
be
wrapping
up
this
work
and
getting
it
to
council
after
the
first
of
the
year.
C
E
We've
actually
we've
this
work's
been
underway
for
quite
some
time
he's
actually
already
presented
to
ced.
It
was
probably
pre
pandemic,
but,
yes,
that's
correct.
We're
now
ready
to
go
to
the
full
council
for
their
final
action.
Okay,.
C
C
B
Sure
I
will
thank
you,
blair
beekman
here
I
wanted
to
try
to
quickly
comment
about
this
item.
It's
an
item
that
that
can
make
a
lot
of
people
uncomfortable
and
it
sounds
like
you
know,
you're
going
to
be
doing
some
more
retooling
on
it
and
try
to
come
back
in
january.
I
hope
that
when
you
do
it
can
be
a
process
of
more
to
the
council.
It
will
be
a
process
of
open
dialogue
and
that,
instead
of
having
final
answers
for
things,
it
should
be
a
place
of
further
public
discussion
and
dialogue.
B
C
Great,
thank
you.
No
further
hands
are
raised
so
oops,
I'm
sorry.
There
is
speaker
five
one,
four,
zero
michaelson
cd
again
we're
talking
about
electronic
billboards.
G
H
C
Back
to
count
back
to
the
committee
council,
member
perales.
F
F
I
was
getting
some
questions
for
that
first
nya
that
was
was
announced
back
in
july.
I
know
that
you
know
they're
now
we're
not
waiting
to
hear
back
now
mid
mid-november
as
responses,
but
I'm
curious
if
staff
has
engaged
with
the
awardees
for
the
july
notice
of
intended
award
on
the
alternative
sites
that
they're
and,
if
they're,
providing
any
updates
to
those
awardees
since
those
bids
won't
come
to
council
until
quarter.
One
now
of
of
2022.
E
So
thanks
for
the
question,
councilmember
perellis
vladimir's
knowledge
with
office
of
economic
development,
and
so
we
have
have
not
engaged
to
any
like
substantial
degree.
Yet,
quite
honestly,
because
we're
trying
to
manage
a
few
things
around
both
this
process
and
workload.
E
But
the
intention
was
and
is-
and
we
will
be
doing
a
follow-up
this
week
now
that
we
went
to
rules
with
the
update
from
this
committee
and
what
we
were
doing
with
this
update
and
and
provide
them
with
the
new
timeline
and
we're
also
getting
kind
of
the
appropriate
staff
on
the
city
side
involved
to
be
able
to
bring
bring
forward.
All
the
things
that
we
need
to
bring
forward.
To
counsel.
F
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
and
all
if
there
hasn't
been
a
motion
I'll
move
to
approve
the
work
plan.
F
K
C
B
Yeah,
it
is
actually
okay.
I
didn't
know
this
was
a
consent,
but
yeah.
I
very
much
like
to
speak
on
this
item.
Thank
you
for
this
report.
It's
important
you're
considering
affordable,
siting,
affordable
housing,
citing
ideas.
B
I
hope,
when
you
do,
that,
you
won't
be
losing
track
of
the
importance
of
mixed
income
ideas
and
I
I
just
think
mixed
income
offers
an
incredible
flexibility
to
how
it
can
address
all
income
levels
and
all
income
levels
can
start
to
be
living
together
in
in
neighborhoods
and
to
learn
how
to
plan
for
that.
B
B
I
keep
mentioning
it
here
and
you
just
finalized
some
mtc
housing
work
at
the
regional
level,
and
I
I
hope
for
the
same
thing
that
you
can
learn
just
to
simply
talk
about
mixed
income
ideas
that
you
already
have
planned
for
and
know
how
to
do,
and
it's
just
a
matter
of
getting
down
to
it,
and
I
hope
it
becomes
a
more
public
process
because
I
think
it's
ideas
are
really
good.
B
Mayhem's
ideas-
they
were
kind
of
you
know,
made
fun
of
a
bit
but
he's
on
the
right
track
that
we're
all
trying
to
address
better
housing
issues,
this
fall
and
and
with
so
much
subsidy
money
coming
in
you
know
I
I
hope
I
hope
we're
starting
to
know
how
to
use
that
money
well
for
programs
that
we
already
do
well,
and
I
think
that
can
be
of
a
lot
of
help
and
service
and
to
learn
how
to
talk
about
those
issues
about
subsidies
openly
with
ourselves
and
the
public
and
community.
B
That's
an
important
concept
that
can
be
difficult
for
us,
but
we're
learning
how
to
do
that
and
good
luck.
What
we
can
be
doing
this
fall
into
next
year
with
these
sorts
of
issues.
Thank
you.
G
Yeah,
as
I
read
through
the
plan,
I'm
wondering
where
all
this
money
money's
gonna
come
from
in
the
future.
I
mean
you
guys,
your
dear
leader,
by
he's
gonna,
be
dumping
a
bunch
of
money
on
you
for
being
the
good
comrades
that
you
are.
But
you
know
when
that
money
dries
up.
Is
this
county
city
and
state
gonna
be
able
to
fund
and
repair
and
maintain
and
and
give
housing
to
people
who
have
nothing
and
then
there's
opportunity
out
for
people
who
have
money?
G
I
I
think
that
it's
misguided,
you're
gonna
run
out
of
money
and
in
all
you're
gonna,
it's
gonna
look
like
a
bad
eastern
european
country
with
just
you
know:
bad
cinder
block
buildings
with
people
hanging
out
the
window.
I
mean
it's
gonna,
look
terrible,
there's
no
such
thing
as
affordable
right
now.
In
with
the
inflation.
All
of
you
know,
it's
awful.
You
can
thank
biden,
your
dear
comrade
for
the
incredible
inflation
that
we're
having.
I
went
out
for
a
drink
and
a
cup
or
a
bowl
of
soup.
G
Today
it
was
22
dollars,
but
you
mean
to
tell
me
that
there's
going
to
be
an
affordable
housing,
a
bowl
of
soup
in
this
town
is
22.
and
that's
at
the
vietnamese
spa
places
that
are
usually
affordable.
You
know
you
go
to
a
fancy
place.
Forget
it
so
you're
going
to
tell
me
you're
going
to
make
affordable
housing
for
people.
I
don't
think
so.
G
What
does
it
cost
per
person?
The
way
you
guys
spend
money,
the
cost
per
person.
We
could
put
people
up
in
the
old
fairmont
hotel
that
I
don't
know
when
you
guys
are
gonna
reopen
that.
I
really
think
that
should
become
the
homeless,
shelter
and
a
police
station
and
a
marijuana
dealing
place.
You
guys
could
have
it
all
in
one
all
your
money,
all
your
homeless
people,
your
beloved
law
enforcement.
G
They
can
all
be
there
together
in
that
in
that
big,
big
housing
project,
that's
gonna,
be
the
the
fairmont
hotel,
what
the
welfare
hotel!
That's,
what
it's
gonna
be
someday,
guaranteed
no
one's
gonna
buy
that
place
who's
gonna
stay
in
san
jose.
Who
wants
to
come
to
this
town
homeless?
People
everywhere?
You
guys
should
be
ashamed
of
yourselves
how
you
run
this
town
and
I
just
want
to
say
a
couple
things
here:
let's
go
brandon.
L
Thank
you
so
much
so
I
really
appreciate
that
pam
you're
reviewing
the
topic,
but
it
was
so
wonderful
to
hear
you
know
when
I
first
came
in
blair
speaking
and
I
understood
the
topic
and
just
really
appreciated
what
blair
was
saying
and
always
do
appreciate
what
he
says,
and
you
know
just
what
I've
been
talking
about
is
a
housing
issue
and
I've
been
thinking
about
it
in
regards
to
my
neighborhood,
because
I'm
fighting
the
hotel,
because
the
hotel
is
a
symbol
of
not
addressing
our
housing
crisis
and
that's
where
we
had
signs
all
over
our
neighborhood.
L
We
want
housing,
not
hotels.
We
want
neighbors,
not
transients,
and
we
won
that
first
battle.
We
won
the
first
battle
and
we
saved
a
beautiful,
victorian
and
actually
the
neighbors
are
living
in
the
owners
of
this
property.
Of
the
two
two
lots
on
stockton
and
chile
are
living
in
the
beautiful
victorian
so
and
with
his
family,
and
it's
so
nice
to
have
a
family
living
on
stockton
avenue.
Because
when
we
came
here
it
was
a
commercial
area,
but
it
was
originally.
L
Then
it
was
going
to
go
housing
and
then
you
changed
it
and
said
everything
has
to
be
about
jobs
and
hotels
are
the
ones
that
bring
money
the
most
money
to
our
city.
So
let
me
get
into
my
housing
vision,
so
my
housing
vision
for
this
property,
it's
in
my
neighborhood
and
my
my
vision-
is
always
to
make
the
world
a
better
place.
And
so
what
I
say
is
that
we
build
housing
there.
L
We
build
three
buildings
with
three
stories
and
a
basement,
and
it's
it's
no
cement
and
that's
we
can
do
it
and
there's
no
carbon,
you
know
dioxide
and
then
we
get
homeless
to
live
with
teachers
that
are
invited.
So
we
get
not.
We
won't
call
them
homeless,
let's
call
them
unhoused
and
the
the
people
who
have
been
living
unsustainably,
which
is
all
of
us
on
the
planet.
We
need
to
learn
to
live
sustainably
on
this
planet,
so
it's
an
education
program
to
teach
them
how
to
live
sustainably
and
they
grow
food.
M
C
This
is
not
that
is
later
on
the
agenda.
This
is
the
heisig
housing
work
plan,
so
we
you
can
raise
your
hand
when
we
get
to
that
item
in
two
items.
How
about
that
perfect
great!
Thank
you.
Moving
back
to
the
committee
council,
member
perales,
you
have
your
hand
raised.
Did
you
have
questions
about
this.
C
Thanks
if
there's
no
further
discussion,
let's
pull,
let's
vote
orozco.
F
N
C
I
I'm
I've
changed
the
format
a
little
bit
of
the
report
to
you,
because
when
we
switched
to
a
quarterly
report
process,
I
was
pretty
sure
you
wouldn't
want
to
sit
through
three
fj
economy,
news
issues
in
a
row.
So
what
I've
done
is
pulled
out.
The
key
elements
that
do
represent
activities
for
the
for
the
quarter
and
this
format
also
allows
me
to
include
news
releases,
as
well
as
the
blog
posts
and
newsletter
items
that
we've
been
publishing.
I
This
is
another
restaurant
concept
it
at
this
point
is
a
pop-up
concept
called
hesse,
which
means
awesome
in
vietnamese
and
it
is
showing
up
in
wonderful
places
like
the
the
event
for
the
opening
of
the
dog
park
and
pocket
park
on
in
sofa.
They
catered
that
and
they're
also
on
saturdays,
at
the
farmers
market
in
the
rose
garden.
So
I
suggest
people
go
visit
them
because
their
food
is
amazing.
It's
awesome.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
this
is
the
santa
clara
university
business
and
law.
I
Schools
are
cooperating
to
provide
on
live
interaction,
consultations
and
free
support
for
both
business
and
legal
advice
for
small
businesses.
They
did
it
once
in
september.
They
did
it
again
in
october,
and
we've
been
promoting
that
and
supporting
that
as
well.
I
You
may
not
be
aware
that
the
first
week
of
october,
as
it
has
been
for
many
years,
was
manufacturing
week
in
the
united
states
and
in
san
jose.
That
banner
is
held
high
for
us
by
the
manufacture,
san
jose
group.
Our
partners
are
supporting
the
manufacturing
sector
in
the
city,
which
is
such
a
critical
element
of
our
economy,
and
they
hosted
a
very
interesting
webinar
that
is
available
on
their
website
on
sustainable
manufacturing.
I
You
may
know
that
oed
has
started
working
with
flea
market
vendors
as
part
of
the
city's
support
for
the
flea
market
vendors
during
the
transition
that
is
happening
as
the
site
is
undergoing,
develop
the
development
process,
even
though
it's
two
years
in
the
future,
when
they
might
have
to
be
moving
we're
working
with
them
right
now,
and
in
fact,
we
had
pop-ups
at
this
flea
market,
two
weekends,
this
most
recent
one
and
the
one
before
that
this
most
recent
one
also
included
members
of
our
housing
department's
eviction,
moratorium
and
rent
relief
team
who
were
at
the
flea
market,
sharing
information,
helping
to
sign
up
people
for
appointments
to
help
with
rent
relief
and
doing
it
all
in
three
languages.
I
We
are
happy
to
be
promoting
the
fact
that
the
california
rebuilding
fund
is
now
offering
small
business
loans
and
so
we're
promoting
that
again,
through
our
blog
posts
and
webinars
in
multiple
languages,
we
had
an
amazing
public
artwork
unveiled
the
minetta
san
jose
international
airport.
With
this
this,
this,
I
think
it's
almost
indescribable.
I
suggest
you
go
see
the
video
and
check
it
out,
but
it's
a
clock
that
is
made
up
of
hundreds
of
clocks
faces
that
make
different
shapes
as
the
time
goes
by
and
it's
very
exciting.
I
Then
most
of
the
folks
here
were
part
of
our
celebration
for
the
opening
of
the
third
duncan
in
san
jose
at
the
corner
of
foxworthy
and
almaden
expressway
very
happy
to
have
that
corner
that
I
think
all
of
us
driving
down
on
them.
Expressway
have
been
looking
at
for
years,
wondering
what's
going
to
go
in
that
cute
little
building,
they
built
well,
it's
a
duncan,
and
they
also
made
a
nice
thousand
dollar
donation
to
second
harvest,
which
was
a
fun
part
of
that
event.
C
Wonderful
thank
you
and
that
third
duncan
is
in
district
nine,
I'm
happy
to
say:
okay,
let's
go
to
members
of
the
public
who
may
have
comments
about
the
economic
activities
report
tessa.
L
L
So
much
of
our
money
has
come
from
the
federal
government
and
when
we
look
at
that
that
money,
two
percent
of
it,
went
for
green
businesses,
and
so
when
we're,
what
we
need
to
be
celebrating
is
fossil
fuel
free
businesses,
that's
what
we
need
to
be
supporting
and
we
see
that
the
damages,
as
we
are
coming
out
of
a
you
know,
a
bomb,
a
bomb
cyclone
that
hit
the
bay
area.
L
They
don't
need
to
cleaning
is
okay,
but
the
the
real
job
we
need
to
have
is
for
them
to
learn
to
grow
food
and
actually,
historically,
I
was
having
a
talk
with
the
head
of
the
sierra
club
and
he
was
saying
in
in
cuba
that
that
started,
making
a
lot
of
money,
as,
as
you
know,
before
cuba,
when
they
cut
off
the
gas
in
from
russia,
where
there
was
some
issue
with
that
and
the
history.
I'm
not
sure.
L
L
That
needs
to
be
our
future
and
that's
what
already
middlebrook
who's
working
actually
with
the
parks
and
rec
as
she
has
a
vision
for
25
by
25,
which
is
the
eco
villages
and
that's
what
we
have
over
at
the
agra
hood
and
those
are
the
jobs
that
she
is
creating
in
her
her
non-profit
now
her
pro
non-profit
of
urban
sustainability
and
actually
spoke
to
one
of
her
members
and
is
interested
in
living
with
the
homeless
and
and
becoming
the
educator
and
living
in
that
type
of
scenario.
G
Well,
it
looks
like
you
guys
are
finally
focusing
on
real
issues
versus
flavored
tobacco
or
something
which
you
know.
That's
not
good.
Economic
development
regulating
a
taxable
item
that
goes
into
the
public
coffers,
but
that's
another
story
yeah.
I
I
hope
that
you
start
reducing
regulations
and
allowing
these
type
of
pop-up
things.
I
mean
how
many
I
mean
all
of
a
sudden
when
you
guys
had
to
it,
was
okay
to
eat
on
a
patio
or
create
a
parklet
or
serve
alcohol.
Oh
no!
Serve
alcohol!
Don't
do
that
right!
G
A
beer
is
a
big
deal
in
this
town.
I
mean
I
I
can
go
on
for
hours
of
what
a
big
deal
this
city
in
this
county
makes
about
somebody
having
a
beer
at
a
bar
or
buying
one
in
a
liquor
store
you
I
mean
this
is
like
a
puritanical
society
gone
mad
with
like
leftist
ideals,
but
yeah
you
guys
need
to
get
back
to
the
basic.
You
need
to
start
making
sure
you
don't
have
to
have
25
sheets
of
paper
posted
in
your
window
of
your
restaurant
to
be
able
to
have
a
parklet.
G
G
This
is
yes,
this
is
economics.
Pam
regulation
is
part
of
making
economics
good
or
bad,
and
you
know
that
you
know
the
more
regulations
that
you
have.
You
guys
are
going
to
have
less
business
and
the
way
you
guys
run
this
down
with
all
your
little
stupid
rules,
you're
not
going
to
have
the
economic
development.
It's
not
going
to
happen
because
you
guys
don't
want
it.
You
guys
want
to
just
hand
out
the
money
and
be
superheroes.
G
You
don't
want
to
really
lift
anybody
up
by
a
small
business.
You
don't
want
to
do
that.
You,
you
want
to
take
a
small
business
like
a
smoke
shop
and
put
them
out
of
business
when
they're
generating
revenue.
You
guys
are
taking
money
from
from
these
small
businesses
that
sell
tobacco
and
alcohol
and
everything
that,
if
you
guys,
are
going
to
control
that
what
else
won't
you
do
hey.
You
know
who
started
regulating
smoking
and
and
all
that
hitler.
C
Well
that
took
a
weird
twist:
okay,
mr
beekman,.
B
Hi
boy
beekman
here
I
guess
there
are
two
from
your
attachment.
There
are
two
items
that
speak
to
well,
first
I'll
start
with
the
san
jose
manufacturing
week
of
2021..
B
B
Good
luck,
how
we
can
do
that
and
and
this
sort
of
convention-
and
they
can
talk
about
these
sort
of
things-
there's
a
business
support
for
the
flea
market
and
business.
Well,
there's
business
support
for
small
businesses
at
santa
clara
university.
They
can
get
advice
and
help
about
code
issues
along
with
loan
issues,
small
business
loan
issues.
Thank
you
for
those
efforts.
There
is
a
an
issue
about
the
vendors
at
the
flea
market.
B
If
I
can
get
this
right,
you're
offering
some
sort
of
loan
system
for
them
or
rent
relief
for
them,
that's
more
like
it
not
loan,
but
rent
relief.
You
know
there's
an
issue
going
on
that
about.
They
have
to
pay
six
months
in
advance
for
things,
and
you
know
to
keep
on
working
there
to
have
a
place
there.
That's
questionable!
That's!
B
They
may
not
have
the
money
to
do
that,
and
so
I
suppose
this
program
can
be
of
some
rent
relief,
help
good
luck
and
how
to
work
on
this
issue
and
on
all
sides
can
come
to
good
agreements
and
thanks
for
allowing
myself
public
comment
time
on
these
things,.
F
Yeah,
thank
you
very
much
chair
and
appreciate
the
the
update
in
in
the
newsletter
you
mentioned,
setting
up
shop
to
help
the
various
flea
market
vendors
association
and
currently
have
a
challenge
right
now
with
the
vendors
and
their
license
agreement
or
their
leases
that
were
discussed
over
the
summer
in
an
attempt
to
try
and
provide
more
of
more
longer
leases
of
six
months,
and
I'm
just
curious
if
I
know
we've
already
engaged
with
our
city
attorney's
office
and
with
oed,
to
see
how
we
can
help
facilitate
those
this.
F
E
I
can
jump
in
on
that
council
member.
Thank
you
very
much.
City
attorney's
office
had
shared
that
the
mechanism
is
a
license
and
that
what
was
specified
in
the
council
approval.
E
I
think
there
was
a
little
confusion
about
that,
but
nonetheless
the
license
was
the
term
and
city
attorney
has
been
very
clear
that
the
city
cannot
be
come
between
a
landlord
and
a
tenant,
so
the
six-month
option
is
only
available
to
them
if
they
pay
all
six
months,
which
we
agree
is
very,
very
difficult
and
probably
not
going
to
happen
for
pretty
much
anyone
so
the
month,
rent
monthly
is
still
there,
with
the
promise
that
the
vendors
will
not
interrupt
those
who
are
there
as
long
as
they're
fulfilling
flea
market
rules,
so
the
basic
monthly.
E
They
believe
that
can
work,
but
legally,
we
have
asked
for
some
outside
help
to
review
the
current
lease
council
member
to
see
if
some
sort
of
assistance
for
the
flea
market
vendors
can
come
through
that
venue
and
just
waiting
to
see
if
there
is
anything
there
and
that
wouldn't
be
from
the
city.
At
that
point,.
F
Okay,
if
you
can
just-
and
it
doesn't
have
to
be
to
the
full
committee,
but
I'd
be
interested
just
in
an
update,
as
as
that
conversation
continues
and
appreciate,
oed
stepping
in
where,
where
you
can.
E
Loggie
will
be
the
there.
She
is
you're
on
mute.
Note,
I'm
happy
to
step
in
and
and
answer
that.
Yes,
there
are
plans
for
holidays
downtown,
which
is
great
after
having
kind
of
last
year's
semi-hiatus,
so
well
we're
happy
to
know
that
the
outdoor
seasonal
ice
rink
downtown
ice
is
coming
back.
E
That
christmas
in
the
park
is
doing
something
both
downtown
in
the
park
bringing
christmas
in
the
park
back,
but
then
also
continuing
the
new
tradition
they
established
last
year
with
the
drive-through
through
illumination.
E
You
know
kind
of
spoke
as
a
spoke
off
of
of
christmas
in
the
park.
Obviously,
with
some
of
the
construction
that's
happening
on
park,
avenue
they're
not
able
to
have
their
full
footprint
now,
but
they're
working
to
pop
up
in
in
some
different
areas
of
the
of
the
downtown
core.
So
we're
excited
about
that
we're
also
working
on.
Hopefully
some
video
projection
video
mapping
on
the
cathedral,
as
we
had
last
year
and
illumination
along
a
few
different
corridors
in
the
downtown
kind
of
guiding
people
around
and
about
downtown.
E
And
then
there
are
a
number
of
different
kind
of
cultural
organizations
that
are
also
doing
their
performances
and
and
we'll
have,
of
course,
sonic
runway
at
city
hall
plaza.
That
will
be
another
really
great
kind
of
illumination
project,
and
so
there
will
be
a
lot
of
lights
and
hopefully
a
lot
of
bustling
in
the
downtown
core
over
the
holiday
season.
F
Great,
thank
you
yeah
we're
looking
forward
to
you
know.
Some
reinvigoration
of
downtown
during
the
holiday
season
certainly
missed
that
last
year
and
appreciate
oed's
work
in
in
helping
to
create
active
areas
and
spaces
and
block
a
your
leadership
in
the
downtown
corn.
So
we're
looking
forward
to
hopefully
the
holidays,
being
a
nice
resurgence
for
us
here
in
downtown
thanks
and
with
that
I'll
make
approval
of
the
verbal
report.
I
I
just
wanted
to
to
point
out
blair
had
a
question
about
rent
relief
and
whether
that
related
to
rent
of
the
flea
market
vendors
booths
at
the
flea
market.
And
it
does
in
its
residential
relief
that
we
and
the
housing
department
are
advocating
for
folks
to
aspire.
E
Thanks,
I
actually
just
wanted
to
follow
up
on
that
christmas
in
the
park.
The
through
blog
a
is
at
lake
cunningham.
Is
that
correct
yeah
for
folks
in
the
community?
That
are
not
aware
great
great,
that's
it
for
me!
Thank
you.
O
My
hand,
for
whatever
reason,
sure
of
course
so
be
before
we
vote.
Thank
you
for
for
the
report
a
couple
of
things
I
just
wanted
to
ask
when,
when
doing
these,
these
shout
outs
and
reporting
back
to
us
on
the
on
the
activities
that
are
going
on,
I
mean
I
love
seeing
what
what's
been
happening.
O
Have
I,
I
guess
it's
more
of
a
request
to
have
some
of
our
minority
businesses
showcase
and
being
been
given
the
same
kind
of
platform,
there's
a
beautiful
event.
That's
about
to
happen
this
weekend.
O
Which
is
a
day
of
the
dead
celebration,
and
it's
really
it's
become
a
very
organic
place,
making
and
a
way
to
to
showcase,
not
just
the
cultural
traditions
beautiful
by
the
way,
it's
a
beautiful,
beautiful
event,
I'm
extending
the
invitation
to
anyone
that
has
an
opportunity
to
come
through.
It's
actually
one
of
my
my
most
favorite,
it's
just
so
beautiful,
but
it's
also
an
opportunity
to
to
really
promote
those
businesses
up
along
the
alamo
corridor,
who
have
been
hit
so
tragically
by
covid
and
the
shutdown.
O
So
I'm
just
wondering
if
we
could
extend
some
of
this
reporting
outside
of
the
the
core
of
san
jose.
E
Thank
you.
We
can
also
touch
base
to
to
the
council
members
point
with
office
cultural
affairs
and
make
sure
we
have
a
recap
of
activities
so
that
you
have
that
included
in
the
report
and
that
will
go
out
in
the
push
on
all
our
social
media.
So
thank
you
for
the
suggestion.
P
E
E
But
as
the
holidays
approach,
we're
fortunate
to,
I
know
everybody's
excited
to
bring
christmas
in
the
park
back
downtown.
I
am
I've
even
threatened
to
learn
how
to
roller
skate
or
how
to
ice
skate
which
we'll
see,
but
you
know
there
are
going
to
be
some
amazing
things
happening
all
over
the
city
that
we
can
promote
and
not
just
report
sort
of
after
the
fact,
but
to
make
sure
that
that
goes
in
the
newsletter
as
it
goes
out
ahead
of
time.
That's
it
for
me
thanks.
Thank
you.
E
If
I
could
just
add
one
one
thing
to
the
to
the
holiday
promotions,
part
of
what
we're
doing
is
working
with
our
our
entity
that
promotes
san
jose,
which
is
team
san
jose
and
they
are
going
to
be
transforming
as
they
did
last
year.
E
O
Lastly,
I
just
wanted
to
say
you
know
I
I
appreciate
small
and
big
companies
are,
are
making
san
jose
their
home
and
they're,
contributing
and
and
really
providing
for
the
local
economy,
as
well
as
making
sure
that
our
residents
are
are
are
working
and
they
can
continue
feeding
their
families.
Did
I
hear
correctly
that
dunkin
donuts
had
made
a
donation
that
that
I
see
chair
fully
saying?
Yes,
I.
O
That's
fantastic,
fantastic
and,
of
course
we
want
to
highlight
that.
I
I
want
to
point
out
just
what
some
of
our
small
businesses
have
been
doing
during
this
pandemic
during
you
know
the
most
difficult
time
for
some
of
these
families.
I
have
a
small
business,
very
small
by
the
way
very
small
and
she's
been
widely
successful.
O
I
I
took
our
city
manager
to
go,
have
lunch
there
the
other
day,
so
she
could
kind
of
get
a
flavor
for
the
east
side
of
san
jose
and
the
owner,
even
though
she's
a
single
mom
with
two
children
starting
this
business
has
been
pretty
successful
on
the
east
side.
She
she
was
amazing
in
making
sure
that
our
families
were
fed.
O
O
She
was
feeding
unbeknownst
to
me
by
the
way
I
had
no
idea,
but
she
was
providing
free
plates
for
anyone
that
lined
up
from
10
to
12,
and
you
know
it
doesn't
amount
to
a
cash
contribution
to
a
non-profit,
but
she
herself
contributed
her
own
profits
and
her
own
labor
to
make
sure
that
the
folks
in
our
community
were
fed
on
cinco
de
mayo.
The
entire
proceeds
went
to
to
back
into
the
community.
O
I
mean
I
can
go
on
and
on,
but
to
be
able
to
highlight
what
some
of
these
small
businesses
who
don't
have
corporate
backing
have
been
doing
to
make
sure
that
our
communities
are
well
taken.
Care
of,
I
think
it's.
I
again
I'd
love
to
be
able
to
see
that
kind
of
promotion
happening
for
our
small
businesses.
C
Councilmember
carrasco,
I
really
appreciate
you
bringing
that
up.
It's
really
important
that
we
support
our
small
businesses
as
much
as
we
possibly
can.
I
happened
to
be
at
a
local
bakery
in
district
9
last
week
and
they
had
a
little
sign.
If
you
contribute,
we
will
make.
We
make
cakes
for
unhoused
children
birthday
cakes,
so
they
take
them
over
to
the
shelters
and
they
celebrate
their
birthday
by
baking,
a
cake
for
them.
I
thought
that
was
really
wonderful,
so
we're
going
to
do.
C
C
If
the
city
can
push
that
information
out
too,
it's
really
helpful
to
our
small
businesses
and
shows
how
much
our
small
businesses
are
really
dedicating
to
dedicating
to
keeping
employees
and
running
their
business
and
paying
their
bills
and
doing
what
they
need
to
to
survive,
but
also
to
help
the
community
as
best
they
can.
So
it's
really
really
kind
of
exciting.
C
So
I
see
it
blogging,
you
have
a
hand
raise.
So
I
just.
E
Wanted
to
follow
up
on
your
comment
just
to
say,
if
you
all
could
help
us
when
you
know
about,
I
mean
that's
a
wonderful
thing,
like
that's
awesome
that
they
do
the
birthday
cakes.
So
it's
really
difficult
for
us
to
know
kind
of
all
the
things
that
are
happening
in
kind
of
the
nooks
and
crannies
of
our
large
city.
E
So,
to
the
extent
that
you
all
find
out
and
council
offices
about
these,
really
you
know
wonderful
situations
or
occurrences,
or
you
know
about
holiday
activities
happening
in
your
district
or
the
organizations
that
are
doing
them.
Please
send
a
contact,
a
note
to
nancy
or
elizabeth
or
to
myself
and
then
we'll
follow
up,
and
then
we
can
push
it
out
into
our
larger
social
media.
So
thank
you
for
for
helping
us
out.
C
H
E
H
L
E
C
C
E
Great,
so
I'm
jackie
morales
morales-rand,
I'm
the
director
of
housing
for
the
city
of
san
jose
and
I'm
joined
today
by
kristen
clements,
who
is
our
division
manager
and
we're
here
to
talk
to
you
about
the
community
opportunity
to
purchase
a
program
which
is
copa
affectionately
known
as
copa,
and
it's
not
working.
E
Oh
there.
It
goes
all
right.
So
the
first
thing
is
to
provide
context
regarding
what
is
kofa
and
coppa,
and
the
definition
is
that
it
gives
qualified
nonprofit
organizations
an
opportunity
to
make
our
the
first
offer
on
a
rental
property
before
it's
put
on
the
market,
and
it's
also
a
right
to
make
a
final
offer
to
match
any
conditions
or
price
points
that
a
someone
else
subsequently
might
make.
If
the
seller
decides
not
to
take
the
copa
offer
to
begin
with
from
the
nonprofit.
E
So
how
did
we
end
up
here
with
a
copa
program?
We
just
wanted
to
remind
you
that
copa
came
out
of
the
work
that
the
housing
department
did
with
our
anti-displacement
strategy.
It
was
actually
one
of
our
priority
projects
to
be
working
on,
and
we
took
this
to
council
in
september
of
2020.
You
all
approved
that
plan,
and
so
we
have
been
working
on
this
to
bring
this
forward.
E
P
P
Copa
has
the
goal
of
improving
resident
stability
by
providing
income
restricted,
affordable
housing
and
it
seeks
to
improve
market
opportunities
and
part
of
the
real
estate
market.
That
apparently,
is
not
very
transparent.
The
quote
on
the
left
indicates
one
reason
that
copa
is
needed.
San
jose
has
a
strong
underlying
real
estate
market.
Despite
covet.
The
quote
on
the
left
is
about
our
multi-family
market
from
last
fall
and
that
investors
still
see
san
jose
rental
housing
as
a
desired
investment
and
a
place
where
higher
and
higher
rents
can
be
obtained.
P
So,
however,
when
buildings,
I'm
sorry
previous
slide,
when
building
sell
and
rents
increase
residents
are
stressed
and
they're
more
prone
to
leave
that
may
or
may
not
be
shown
in
evictions
data
they
just
may
owe
back
rent
and
leave
before
they
owe
any
more
evictions
actually
may
not
occur.
Although
renters
may
be
extremely
stressed,
after
borrowing
to
stay
in
place
so
as
rents
get
back
to
normal
in
our
market,
the
underlying
dynamic
that
rents
rise
faster
than
incomes
of
low-income
families
that
will
continue
to
drive
displacement
in
our
market.
P
This
is
actually
a
quote
from
this
month's
wealth
management.com
and
how
great
it
is
to
buy
properties
off
market
that
estimates
at
least
half
of
commercial,
real
estate
properties,
trade
off
market
and
some
folks
say
as
much
as
80
percent
trade
off
market
and
so
that
only
one
one
offer
really
had
a
chance
at
buying
the
property
buildings
like
this
often
trade
within
one
brokerage
from
one
brokerage
client
to
another
without
getting
listed
on
one
of
the
four
or
more
listing
services.
P
But
we
started
with
a
list
of
over
200
people
250,
who
had
previously
expressed
interest
in
anti-displacement,
and
so
we've
had
over
160
people
attending
these
meetings
since
april,
over
200
people
regularly
getting
updates
and
invitations
over
updating
the
data
here
over
50
organizations
represented
we
counted
52
this
morning.
So
this
has
been
the
first
stage
of
our
outreach
work
and
we're
starting
our
second
phase.
P
We've
had
two
very
active
members
from
bonn
on
our
technical
advisory
committee.
They
came
to
both
the
tax
meetings
and
the
sac
meetings
and
we've
had
more
small
property
owners
and
managers
at
the
stakeholder
advisory
committee
meeting.
So
we'll
talk
some
more
about
next
steps,
as
we
reach
out
to
the
public
very
intentionally.
P
P
Looking
at
rented
duplexes,
triplex's
quad
flexes
they're
about
13
and
then
the
remainder
are
in
properties
that
are
five
or
more
units,
and
then
you
can
also
see
obviously,
that
the
smallest
properties
it
takes
much
shorter
time
to
close
than
larger
properties.
The
larger
ones
generally
requiring
structured
financing
and
whatever
bidder
goes
up
to
it,
makes
an
offer
on
the
property
they
need
to
obtain
bank
financing
and
appraisals
and
that's
very
typical
in
the
larger
properties.
P
P
This
is
another
chart,
as
we
dig
into
this
a
little
bit
more
deeply
in
the
five
plus
units
range
you
can
see.
There
are
differences
by
unit
sizes
and
time
to
close
notice
that
the
average
price
per
unit
is
slightly
different
actually
than
on
the
previous
slide,
and
one
of
the
things
we
learned
through
this
work
is
that
different
data
sources
give
different
data.
You
would
think
it
would
be
easily
accessible
and
consistent,
and
it
turns
out
it's
not.
P
So
when
you
try
to
cobble
together
different
sources,
it's
actually
not
that
simple
to
get
a
general
read,
but
we
believe
that
what
we're
representing
here
is
kind
of
a
an
accurate
calling
together
at
different,
looks
so
and
that's
different
than
the
one
to
four
unit
buildings.
The
multiple
listing
service
is
one
place.
All
you
one
to
four
unit
buildings
are
listed,
it's
quite
transparent
and
that's
not
the
case
for
properties.
Five
units
and
up
many
developments
are
selling
off
listings.
So
that's
the
different
data.
P
So
that
is
a
little
bit
of
background
data
and
generally
copa
programs
have
certain
elements
that
are
common
when
you
look
across
them
and
when
I
say
copa
programs
by
the
way,
the
a
is
for
act,
that's
a
common
question,
it's
usually
passed
by
legislation
and
then
also
tenant
opportunity
to
purchase
programs.
P
While
that's
not
what
we're
proposing
here.
They
have
similar
categories
program
elements
as
well,
so
during
our
process
so
far
and
our
research
we've
solicited
and
we
heard
feedback
from
our
stakeholders
about
the
variety
of
program
elements
and
here's
an
overview
of
the
program
elements
that
a
program
will
include
so
first
applicability.
What
kinds
of
buildings
would
the
program
apply
to,
and
usually
it's
cut
by
the
number
of
units
apartments
in
the
in
the
property
exemptions?
P
What
kinds
of
buildings
would
the
ordinance
not
apply
to
so,
for
instance,
transfers
within
a
family
and
inheritances,
usually
not
subject
to
a
program
like
this,
for
example,
owner
occupied,
very
small
properties
that
serve
as
a
primary
residence
for
the
owner
who
sorry
lives
on
one
side
and
rents
out
the
other?
That
is
a
common
example
of
something
that
might
be
accepted
under
an
ordinance
accepted,
exempted
incentives.
P
So
in
terms
of
trying
to
make
a
program,
how
can
we
not
just
create
a
mandate
but
also
create
some
kind
of
financial
incentive
for
folks
to
participate,
so
their
lives
are
somewhat
neutral
or
even
better,
and
so,
for
instance,
there
could
be
a
transfer
tax
reduction
or
there
could
be
other
kinds
of
city
fees
or
recording
fees
that
are
lessened,
for
instance,
and
timeline
timeline's,
the
one
that
a
lot
of
people
focus
on
and
there's
a
lot
of
detail
of
it,
and
so
there
are
steps
to
the
process
which
are
laid
out
a
little
bit
more
in
the
memo.
P
But
it's
basically
how
long
would
a
non-profit
buyer
who
was
pre-qualified
for
the
program?
How
long
would
they
have
to
indicate
the
intention
to
make
an
offer
on
a
given
property
and
then
how
long
would
the
the
buyer
or
the
the
nonprofit
buyer
have
to
actually
make
the
offer?
How
long
would
the
owner
have
to
respond
so
it
it
lays
out
a
timeline
and
just
want
to
be
really
clear.
P
This
is
not
a
program
forcing
any
owner
to
sell
to
any
given
buyer
and
it's
a
common
misconception
where,
if
you
haven't
sat
through
all
the
meetings
and
listened
to
all
the
details,
people
might
be
confused.
That
is
not
what
we're
doing
we're,
not
forcing
marriages,
we're
not
dictating
sales
prices
at
all,
we're
just
giving
opportunities
to
make
offers
continuing
on
affordability.
What
what's
the
target
audience
for
the
residents
we're
trying
to
help
qualifications
of
buyers?
P
This
is,
of
course,
something
that
the
city
has
to
think
through
and
to
have
the
program
you
know
be
effective,
and
this
plays
with
the
amount
of
staffing
in
the
program,
and
you
know
we're
we're
considering
this-
that
to
be
a
very
lightly
staffed
program
if
it
does
move
forward.
But
really
the
question
is:
what's
the
city's
role,
how
proactive
would
staff
be
able
to
be
given
their
bandwidth
and
therefore
does
that
involve
third
parties
in
helping
to
flag
issues
where,
for
instance,
the
procedures
were
not
followed
properly?
P
So,
while
coppo
might
be
a
new
process
to
san
jose,
it's
not
a
new
idea
and
we're
trying
to
design
something
that
would
promote
adherence
to
the
program
first
and
foremost.
P
P
We
pass
the
ordinance
and
then
the
details
follow
in
the
regulations
later,
and
so
in
that
time,
if
the
city
council
were
to
pass
the
program
that
next
stage
would
be
to
develop
very
broad
outreach
plans
to
make
sure
that
everyone
in
the
market
knows
that
this
would
be
coming
and
then
outreach
again
on
the
detailed
program
rules
so
that
there
wouldn't
be
surprises.
So
this
would
be
a
detailed
program,
of
course,
because
it
involves
real
estate
and
different
parties
talking
to
each
other
and
financing.
P
E
Thank
you,
kristen
sorry,
I
was
trying
to
find
my
unmuted
photo.
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
and
thank
the
team
that
has
been
working
on
our
this
project
so
far
while
kristen
and
I-
and
I
know
that
jason
and
josh
are
here
with
us
today
to
answer
additional
questions.
We
do
want
to
recognize
that
it
really
takes
a
group
of
people
to
bring
forward
our
police
policy
recommendations,
and
so
with
that
we
are
open
for
questions.
C
L
Okay,
my
one
suggestion
is
that
we
stop
using
acronyms-
and
we
say
exactly
what
it
is.
That's
really
important
for
community
outreach
as
a
democracy
teacher
that
I
am
so
cooper.
I
looked
it
up,
it's
about
buying
property
and
I'm
not
sure
all
the
details,
but
the
thing
that
I'm
looking
at
is
that
you
know
they're,
saying
that
you
know
pre-existing
buildings,
but
we
could
also
have
property.
Is
that
is
really
where
you
know?
L
L
What
happened
over
at
the
agra
hood
is
to
grow
food
locally
there
and
to
house
the
senior
housing
and
that's
what
her
idea
with
76
ray
street
was
to
how
create
buildings
to
house
students
and
that's
what
she
was
working
with:
the
san
jose
school
district,
the
san
jose
college,
school
district,
evergreen
school
district
to
create
housing
for
students
and
then
to
have
that
curriculum
right
in
place,
and
that's
the
same
idea
that
I'm
having
in
terms
of
615
stockton
avenue
as
we
buy
that
property
and
we
build
housing
that
incorporates
homelessness
and
how
we
can
live
sustainably
on
the
education
to
live,
to
learn
to
live
sustainably.
L
C
We
are
discussing
the
community
opportunity
to
purchase
program.
This
is
about
programs
real
estate
that
would
be
purchased
already
constructed.
Moving
on
to
the
caller
with
the
initials
y,
please
unmute
yourself.
Q
Q
Hi
I
just
heard
about
the
cobra.
It
sounds
like
it
will
change
the
way
that
all
rental
property
will
be
sold
in
san
jose
and
the
giving
preferred
ratio
treatment
to
special
interest
group
and
control
over
everything.
Why
isn't
the
community
being
notified
about
this?
They
told
me
sac
is
the
public
meeting,
but
the
real
public
was
never
notified
about
it.
Q
Small
business
and
the
rental
property
owners
have
been
struggled
during
the
pandemic.
You
should
not
make
further
attacks
and
place
more
regulations
on
business
in
san
jose
corporate
is
government
overreach
with
no
justification
with
the
tax
payers
money.
I
think
your
regulation
is
too
much
the
hand
is
too
long
to
reach
taxpayers
pocket,
and
I
do
agree
one
speaker
just
to
mention
you
need
to
reduce
the
regulation
in
the
rental
market
instead
of
increased.
J
Hi
yeah,
this
is
cheryl,
I
want
to
say
I've
been
on
the
stakeholder.
Oh
sure,
sorry,
I
want
to
say
I've
been
in
the
stakeholder
meetings
for
a
few
months
and
it's
been
difficult
to
participate
because
I've
asked
questions
all
the
way
back
to
june
and
haven't
gotten
answers.
I've
asked
about
san
francisco
how
many
units
they've
sold?
No
answer,
no
response,
so
it's
hard
to
participate
and
I've
suggested
other
items,
topics
no
response
anyway.
J
The
final
thing
I
would
say
on
enforcement,
we
got
15
minutes
to
talk
about
enforcement
and
the
only
thing
I
came
away
with
somebody
says:
oh,
this
would
be
complaint
based
enforcement
law
foundation
said
right.
Kristin
allowing
a
private
right
of
action
takes
some
administrative
burden
off
the
city
as
well,
so
property
owners
will
be
turned
into
criminals
if
they
advertisers
sell
their
property
without
permission
from
the
city,
and
it
sounds
like
the
enforcement
of
the
housing
department
is
already
in
place
now.
J
One
thing
I'd
like
to
say
is:
there
was
some
mention
just
a
minute
ago
that
there's
not
going
to
be
any
when
this
thing
first
passed
to
get
approved
to
take
action.
There
was
some
mention
from
the
housing
department
that
mass
evictions
take
place
when
a
new
property
is
is
bought
now
they're,
saying
well
the
story's
changing.
Well,
then,
no,
some
of
the
tenants
just
move
out
and
they're
not
really
tracked.
They
really
really
don't
know
so
the
story
that
it
just
keeps
changing
all
the
time.
J
So
I
want
to
know
where
these
mass
evictions
are
happening.
The
other
thing
is
they're.
Talking
about.
Oh
we're
going
to
the
tenants
can
maybe
purchase
these
buildings
later.
Well,
guess
what
we've
got
20
000
units
of
affordable
housing
right
now?
How
many
of
those
are
you
helping
the
the
people
purchase
right
now?
The
other
thing
is:
this:
is
just
major
government
overreach
into
property
rights?
There's
no
justification.
J
It's
just
the
same
thing.
The
government
does
when
they
want
to
take
land
from
the
native
americans
when
there
is
gold
on
it
when
they
want
to
invade
iraq
and
say
oh
weapons
of
mass
destruction,
it's
the
same
bs
of
taking
people's
property
rights.
So
I
think-
and
there
needs
to
be
major
outreach
to
the
entire
city
about
this,
because
this
affects
everybody
in
the
entire
city
and
the
property
rights
that
anybody
who
wants
to
purchase
a
small
property
to
take
care
of
their
families
later
in
life.
Thank
you.
R
We
want
to
thank
the
housing
department
for
their
efforts
so
far
to
reach
all
stakeholders
and
craft
a
copa
policy
that
will
be
effective
in
preventing
residential
displacement
and
preserving
as
many
affordable
homes
as
possible
by
providing
qualified
nonprofit
buyers.
A
writer
first
offer
and
writer
first
refusal
on
residential
properties
when
they
go
up
for
sale.
A
well-crafted
coppa
program
would
provide
a
unique
opportunity
to
keep
low
income
tenants,
housed
permanently
preserve,
affordable
homes
and
create
new
home
ownership
opportunities
for
families
that
have
historically
been
excluded
from
san
jose's
high
cost
market.
R
As
pointed
out
in
the
staff
report,
the
kovid
19
pandemic
has
primed
san
jose's
rental
housing
market
for
the
acquisition
of
apartments
with
low-income
residents,
and
these
purchases
are
premised
on
the
buyer's
ability
to
evict
the
current
tenants
and
convert
their
units
to
market
rate.
Rentals
such
market
rate
conversions
will
disproportionately
display
san
jose's,
low
income,
tenants
and
unfairly
impact
the
communities
of
color
where
these
buildings
are
predominantly
located.
R
Q
Hello,
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
I
can
hi,
so
my
name
is
jenny.
I
am
a
san
jose
resident,
also
a
rental
property
owner.
So
before
I
started
to
this
specific
topic,
I
would
like
to
remind
that
the
previous
agenda
is
about
small
business
and
I
see
all
councils
are
so
sympathetic
and
supporting
to
small
business.
So
I
would
like
to
remind
everyone
that
we
are
talking
about
rental
property
owners
who
are
also
small
business
and
we
are
paying
our
bills.
Q
Q
I
have
never
been
convinced
by
the
data
that
there
are
any
massive
displacement
happening
in
san
jose,
because
we
have
multiple
layers
of
tenant
protections
and
there's
no
way
for
any
property
owners
to
evict
tenant,
while
change
property
changing
heads,
so
we
have
to
run
registry.
So
why
don't?
Q
We
have
the
data
pulled
from
the
registry
to
show
that
what
kind
of
massive
eviction
that
we're
facing,
and
secondly,
during
the
task
force
meeting,
I
don't
think
we
ever
talked
about
alternative
measures
instead
of
implementing
a
very
costly
law,
because
why
the
difficulty
is
the
off-market
sales.
So
why
can't
we
just
focusing
on
how
to
resolve
that
issue
of
the
off-market
sale
of
the
properties
instead
before
we
moving
forward?
N
N
N
My
request
today
is
that
this
process
should
be
slowed
down
until
a
strong
effort
is
made
to
seek
broad
inputs
from
owners
most
likely
to
be
affected
by
this.
There
should
be
outreach
and
public
forums
throughout
the
city
not
only
on
zoom,
but
also
other
form
of
meetings
that
many
moms
small
mom-and-pops
could
attend.
N
J
G
G
I
would
imagine
by
a
local
government
and
by
taxes
that
to
me
then
brings
up
the
subject
of
eminent
domain
being
given
to
a
specific
group
which
stands
in
in
kind
of
kind
of
in
front
of
a
document
called
the
united
states
constitution,
which
to
me,
is
kind
of
a
slap
in
the
face
to
the
constitutionality
of
this
kind
of
action
and
I'm
kind
of
wondering
if
that's
even
been
considered
by
the
by
the
commissar
of
housing
and
the
housing
department
it
it
just
runs
counter
clock.
You
know
counterintuitive
to
what
this
country's
all
about.
G
C
N
On
behalf
of
bahn
bong,
representing
mom
and
pop
housing
providers
in
the
bay
area,
we
urge
the
city
of
san
jose
to
stop
the
call
pal
discussing
and
focus
the
city's
resource
to
on
adding
more
house
employee
supply
and
provide
direct
rent
assistance
to
needed
tenants
in
the
past
two
years.
The
mom
and
pop
housing
providers
are
the
victims
of
the
pandemic
and
the
victims
of
the
eviction
momentum.
N
N
When
can
you
do
something
to
help
us
to
survive,
since
the
state
of
home
order
will
have
lost
our
ways
to
communicate
with
our
ld
members,
who
lack
knowledge
to
using
more
modern
tools
that
such
as
to
zoom
or
computer?
Many
of
them
don't
even
use
email,
a
large
percentage
of
some
same
moment
and
probably
are
elderly
immigrants.
N
We
want
to
know
what
type
of
outrage
effort
the
city
staff
did
to
them.
They
are
indirect
impacted
by
the
copa,
so
can
be
kept
in
the
dark
about
this
important
topic.
We
urge
the
city
to
put
the
corporate
conversation
on
hold
until
the
pandemic
is
over.
The
city
must
put
real
effort
to
engage
the
small
housing
providers,
as
well
as
the
entire
san
jose
community,
for
their
input.
N
A
First,
thank
you
very
much
for
allowing
me
to
speak
and
thank
you
to
christian
for
acknowledging
that
more
public
outreach
is
definitely
needed.
I
read
the
memo
and
several
the
public
letters
while
there's
a
claim
of
significant
community
outreach
and
diversity.
The
memo
does
not
list
the
organizations
or
the
community
members
that
participated.
A
I
attended
one
or
two
sac
meetings
by
accident,
meaning
there
was
no
contact
or
outreach
by
the
city.
I
just
accidentally
arrived
thinking.
Another
topic
was
being
discussed.
The
attendees
were
mostly
non-profits,
which
have
a
financial
interest
in
coppa
and
renters.
So
my
questions
are:
one:
were
holders
of
city
business
licenses
for
rental
property
contacted
to
how
many
and
what
percentage
of
the
mom
and
pop
housing
providers,
which
appear
to
be
the
housing
providers.
Group
most
impacted
participated
three:
what
businesses
and
rental
property
owners
and
organizations
participated?
A
What
was
the
actual
outreach
conducted
because
it
was
not
adequate
there
are.
There
are
and
continue
to
be
basic
assumptions
and
complaints
made
as
to
the
benefit
of
copa,
but
with
no
actual
evidence
one.
There
is
no
long-term
benefit
provided
in
the
memo
on
the
benefit
of
coppa
two.
There
is
no
evidence
that
the
impact
of
mom
and
pop
property
and
financial
rights
are
addressed
three.
There
is
a
basic
assumption
that
non-profits
cannot
compete
in
the
marketplace
and
that
they
deserve
special
treatment.
S
S
The
scope
of
the
units
is
largely
broad
and
will
result
in
ineffectiveness.
The
timeline
is
going
to
be
unrealistic
and
cumbersome
education
and
applicability
of
a
program.
This
large
is
going
to
be
infeasible.
Therefore,
enforcement
will
be
difficult
and
dispose
disproportionately
impact
our
smaller
brokerages
and
housing
providers
who
are
not
properly
educated
on
the
requirements.
S
We
also
feel
this
program
will
be
largely
ineffective.
Its
intended
goal,
which
score
does
support
preventing
displacement
and
promoting
homeownership.
This
program
will
effectively
do
neither
city
staff
and
resources
will
be
much
better
served
in
other
efforts
to
truly
work
to
to
prevent
displacement
and
help
increase
home
ownership
in
underserved
communities.
S
While
we
have
been
engaged
as
members
of
attack
and
sac,
we
feel
largely
unheard
and
urged
much
more
comprehensive
outreach
to
the
public
to
have
a
complete
understanding
of
how
this
policy
would
impact
the
community
and
the
real
estate
industry
score.
Stresses
our
concern
of
this
proposal
and
the
unintended
consequences
of
coppa.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
S
Good
afternoon
committee
members,
my
name
is
gwasakar
castro
working
partnerships
standing
alongside
with
community
partners
here
in
support
of
the
community
community
opportunity
to
purchase
act,
also
known
as
copa,
which
is
a
key
strategy
in
addressing
displacement
in
san
jose.
I
would
like
to
take
a
moment
to
thank
staff
for
all
their
hard
work
throughout
this
process.
As
the
presentation
showed,
there
was
a
lot
of
work
in
both
getting
us
to
this
point
and
coordinating
with
all
these
different
stakeholders
so
really
appreciate
everything.
That's
been
done
on
that
front.
S
Coppa
has
been
identified
as
a
key
piece
of
the
city's
anti-displacement
plan,
as
low-income
residents
throughout
the
city
become
at
risk
of
displacement
due
to
increased
costs
of
living
and
lack
of
affordable
housing
opportunities.
Building
out
san
jose's
preservation
toolkit,
so
we
can
keep
our
homes.
Affordable
is
paramount,
so
that
families
who
have
built
their
lives
in
the
city
can
continue
to
do
so.
We
look
forward
to
further
dialogue
on
this
important
matter.
S
In
particular,
we
look
forward
to
uplifting
the
voice
of
tenants
throughout
this
process
through
engagement
and
participation
through
copa,
so
that
those
who
have
been
significantly
impacted
by
this
housing
crisis
are
given
the
opportunity
to
be
part
of
housing
solutions
such
as
this.
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
opportunity
by
comment.
K
Hello,
everyone.
Thank
you.
My
name
is
liz
gonzalez
with
silicon
valley,
debug
and
the
south
bay
community
land
trust
we
signed
on
to
a
letter
in
support
of
coppa
with
several
community
organizations
that
I
don't
really
see
in
the
letters
from
the
public,
but
I
hope
you
all
received
for
your
review.
K
It's
important
not
to
have
misinformation
and
myths
drive
this
work
into
something
ineffective
attendance
center.
Copa
is
one
critical
tool
to
not
only
give
agency
to
tenants
over
our
own
housing
but
a
way
to
stabilize
families.
Long
term
expand
home
ownership
opportunities
for
families
who
have
been
most
excluded
and
as
this
process
continues,
we
urge
you
to
support
tenant
decision
making
and
have
the
city
identify
a
dedicated
source
of
revenue
to
fund
copa
and
a
larger
preservation
strategy
in
the
city's
goals.
Around
anti-displacement
and
equity.
K
M
M
M
We
know
that
now
is
the
time
that
major
outside
investors
are
looking
to
gobble
up
rental
properties,
and
we
don't
need
the
the
speculative
out-of-state
landlords,
newly
dominating
the
market,
for
our
small
apartments.
So
we're
looking
at
this
program
as
a
win-win
for
everyone
that
tenants
are
get
to
be
housed.
We
preserve
this
naturally
affordable
housing
and
we
quite
possibly
even
grow
our
affordable
housing
portfolio
in
the
city.
M
So,
just
to
clarify
some
of
the
points
that
have
gone
back
that
has
been
spoken
of,
and
also
been
emailed
to
the
council
members
that
this
program
does
not
require
property
owners
to
sell
their
property
unless
they
want
to.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
time.
M
B
Hi
blair
beekman
here
thanks
for
this
item,
thanks
for
the
previous
clarification
by
a
housing
department,
person
about
flea
market
issues
and
and
that
the
rent
issues
are
for
their
for
their
own
living
situations
and
not
for
the
rental
space
of
the
flea
market
about
this
issue.
You
know
it
was
nice
to
hear
different
points
of
view.
I
mean
I.
B
I
come
from
the
point
of
view
that
I
feel
the
copa
ideas
are
to
help
consider
that
are
a
part
of
along
the
lines
of
rent
control
issues
and
land
trust
issues
and
to
give
a
certain
hedge
to
create
a
understanding
of
how
to
create
you
know,
prices
for
for
for
land
and
and
and
what
we
can
expect
from
like,
say:
non-profits
purchasing
these
places,
who
have
good
practices,
usually
in
human
rights
and
tenants,
rights
and
and
they're
people
that
we
can
trust
in
in
how
to
work
these
sort
of
issues
in
san
jose.
B
It's
that
combination
that
we
can
be
considering.
You
know
a
kind
of
a
a
a
a
more
humanistic
system
and
way
to
work,
and
this
is
a
bit
uncomfortable
to
to
free
market
capitalism,
but
at
the
same
time
you
know
these.
These
places
being
purchased
can
eventually
be
co-opted
into
co-ops
and
and
worked
on
by
by
the
tenants
themselves.
B
Basically,
as
my
understanding
is,
is
the
way
these
sort
of
things
can
develop
like
with
the
land
trust
issues,
so
I
I
think,
there's
really
interesting
possibilities
in
what
copa
can
work
for,
as
always.
I
hope
that
recent
copa
things
will
be
wanting
to
consider
mixed
income
ideas
that
I
think
are
flexible
and
they
invite
all
parts
of
the
economic
income
levels
to
be
a
part
of
an
area
and
a
part
of
a
building.
That's
an
interesting
concept
that
invites
everyone
to
to
question
and
consider.
Thank
you.
K
Hi
can
y'all
hear
me.
Yes,
we
can
hi
good
afternoon
members
of
the
committee.
My
name
is
andrea
portillo,
with
somos
mayfair
and
I'm
here
to,
along
with
other
community
partners
and
community,
to
voice
our
support
for
the
copa
program.
So
we
can
both
preserve
our
affordable
housing
supply,
while
also
creating
a
space
for
community
ownership
in
their
of
their
own
housing.
K
Our
san
jose
families
are
in
a
crisis.
You
know
we.
We
continue
to
hear
from
community
that
they
are
getting
pushed
out
and
we
are
getting
pushed
out
of
our
communities
due
to
increased
cost
of
living,
current
threats
of
eviction,
displacement
and
just
general
lack
of
access
to
affordable
housing
options
that
lead
to
long-term
home
ownership.
K
Our
hope
is
that
coppa
ensures
that
the
tenant
voice
continues
to
get
lifted
so
that
those
who
have
been
most
impacted
by
this
crisis
have
the
opportunity
to
engage
in
solutions.
I
want
to
thank
the
city's
housing
staff
for
taking
and
putting
so
much
time
and
work
into
this
program,
and
we
look
forward
to
continuing
to
work
together.
G
Yeah,
this
is
it's
kind
of
non-profit,
not-for-profit
stuff.
I
don't
buy
it.
It's
a
money
laundering
scheme
just
like
a
foundation
like
the
foundation
to
buy
toys
for
the
kids
and
all
that
now.
This
is
this
is
just
a
shell
game
to
avoid
taxes,
it
lets
political
donors,
look
like
good
people,
giving
they
give
to
these
foundations,
or
these
not-for-profits
versus
a
campaign
contribution.
G
I
mean
this
exact
kind
of
scam
that
it
sounds
like
reminds
me
of
a
sopranos
episode
of
just
manipulation
with
non-profits
hud
and
all
these
do-gooder
politicians
and
who's
going
to
get
the
place.
That's
what
I
want
to
know
who
are
the
people
who
get
these
these
businesses
alone
or
these
houses?
Who
are
they
related
to?
Are
they
just
pick
randomly
from
a
a
group
of
people
who
have
put
down
for
this
or
is
it?
Is
it
a?
G
G
R
R
So
people
literally
like
I
want
to
sell
my
property
at
the
highest
price,
so
I
can
do
kick
off
that
problem
to
other
people
and
leave
the
tenants
on
their
own.
Inherently
this.
The
entire
basis
of
this
proposal
is
basically
public
outreach
on
that
sale,
property,
qualified
non-profits,
don't
know
what's
going
on
until
basically
after
the
purchase
is
over,
which
is
already
too
late
for
this.
R
So
for
all
the
talks
about
the
sufficient
community
outreach
for
coppa
itself,
there's
already
insufficient
community
outreach
for
the
actual
sale
property,
which
is
where
the
people
actually
currently
live
in,
as
we've
seen
with
previous
instances
like
mobile
home
parks,
where
we
have
had
generate
a
lot
of
community
interests
about
maintaining
those
properties
because
the
people
there
would
be
basically
entirely
priced
out
of
the
city
because
you
know
their
own
fixed
income.
This
entire
copa
has
much
more
generalization
for
that
for
the
entire
apartment
buildings
in
the
entire
city.
R
In
that
inherently
a
lot
more
people
live
in
them
than
the
mobile
home
parks
for
all
the
talks
about
tenant
protections.
Obviously
we
have
made
improvements,
but
inherently
a
lot
of
those
improvements
are
still
requires
legal
aid
and
we
all
know
legal
aid
is
under
funded
at
this
point,
whereas
property
rights
of
homeowners
and
property
owners
are
still
very
strong.
Involving
you
know,
rights
about
foreclosures,
about
disclosures
about
sales,
and
all
of
that,
and
fundamentally
this
is
a
preservation
policy.
R
The
people
in
the
buildings
already
live
here
and
we're
threatening
their
ability
to
live
here.
If
the
outsider
comes
in
and
just
raises
the
rent
to
whatever
it
is
to
market
rent
and
that,
if
we
want
to
address
our
homelessness
issues,
if
we
want
to
address
the
overcrowding
issues,
if
we
want
to
address
the
exodus
of
people
to
the
central
valley,
we
need
to
make
steps
like
this
faster,
rather
than
doing
constant
community
opposition
about
dialogue
and
outreach.
Thank
you.
M
Hi
I
want
to
thank
the
committee
for
allowing
me
to
speak.
I
also
wanted
to
first
off
say
that
I
completely
agree
with
cheryl's
comments
and
steve
hanley's
comments.
M
I
believe
that
copa
is
targeting
small
housing
providers
and
I
think
that
this
program
is
actually
trying
to
give
property
rights
to
tenants
which
seems
illegal
to
me.
You
know
property
rights
have
to
do
with
owning
the
property
and
the
deed
and
doing
what
you
want
with
the
property.
M
I
think
it's
a
biased
policy
created
from
a
playbook
outside
of
san
jose
and
that
it's
very
political
and
based
on
personal
narratives
in
the
housing
department,
the
outreach
has
been
lacking.
Meetings
have
been
confusing,
especially
by
so
many
different
san
jose
departments,
committees,
commissions.
The
process
has
been
very
hard
to
follow.
M
I
also
disagree
with
the
public
outrage
between
now
and
the
end
of
the
year
to
get
this
finalized.
I
think
that
you
should
do
the
public
outreach
and
the
public
comments
after
the
first
of
the
year.
I
think
you're
rushing
it
and
it's
during
the
holidays
and
people
won't
have
adequate
time
to
attend
these
types
of
meetings
and
it's
an
important
issue.
M
Lastly,
I
think
it's
a
punitive
cumbersome,
complex
process
for
small
home
providers.
It
doesn't
usually
involve
a
lot
of
units.
I
think
on
your
slide.
It
was
like
55
units
plus
I
mean
you
should
be
looking
at
buildings
that
have
like
500
units
or
a
thousand
units
so
that
you
can
get
more
bang
for
your
buck
and
get
more
tenants
under
that
umbrella
of
you
know
controlling
rents
or
whatever
it
is.
You
want
to
do
with
this
anti-displacement
policy.
G
Here
quite
attentively,
and
I
had
actually
met
with
members
of
the
of
the
copa.
S
Committee
and
I
have
made
certain
observations
first
off:
it's
timing,
the
if
you
have
a
property
that
you
must
in
fact
receive
an
offer
before
and
then
once
you've
actually
received
an
offer
that
is
acceptable
to
you,
then
that
first
party,
the
copa
connection,
would
come
and
purchase
it.
Now,
let's
look
at
you
are
a
buyer
and
you're
looking
at
two
properties,
they
could
be
four
plexes.
It
could
be
anything
you're
looking
at
two
properties
that
are
very
close
together
in
that
you
note
that
one
is
has
a
right
of
refusal.
S
S
The
other
thing
is:
how
can
a
an
outfit
that
is
a
non-profit,
get
the
money
to
buy
a
property,
reduce
the
the
income
on
it
and
keep
up
the
maintenance
on
it?
How
are
they
able
to
do
that?
It
must
rely
on
city,
government
and
state,
and
everyone
else
supporting
that
now.
It
isn't
just
that
particular
non-profit,
but
the
profits
non-profits
in
education
and
job
training
and
so
on,
make
a
a
study
of
the
costs
of
both.
S
Hi,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
here.
I
just
want
to
echo
some
of
the
concerns
have
already
been
expressed
about
coppa.
Look.
I
think,
programs
that
facilitate
transparency
in
the
market
are
worthy
of
looking
at.
I
think
a
program
that
might
consider
some
incentives
for
sellers,
maybe
worthy
of
consideration,
but
something
that
puts
directives
and
mandates
over
the
timing
of
sales
or
the
offer
selection
criteria.
S
Absolutely
not.
It
also
concerns
me
that
copa
seems
to
give
qualified
non-profits
an
unwarranted
advantage
over
other
buyers.
You
know
these
organizations,
don't
necessarily
have
the
resident's
best
interests
at
hearts,
believe
it
or
not.
They
should
be
treated
with
the
same
scrutiny
that
other
special
interest
groups
have,
including
real
estate
associations,
property
developers
and
institutional
investors.
S
I
also
just
on
the
the
outreach
aspect
of
this.
I'm
involved
with
neighborhood
association
where
I
live,
and
I've
also
over
the
past
year,
been
working
with
a
lot
of
neighborhood
associations
across
the
city
and
I'll.
Tell
you
what
we've
never
heard
anything
about
this.
You
know.
To
be
quite
frank,
I
don't
think
we've
heard
anything
about
any
programs
from
the
housing
department.
So
there's
that
and
then
finally
on
the
timing,
you
know
somebody
mentioned
a
couple
of
people
who
have
mentioned
the
holiday
season.
That's
not
the
only
thing
that's
coming
up.
S
In
the
month
of
november
and
december,
the
city
is
going
to
be
looking
at
redistricting
residential
zoning,
specifically
opportunity,
housing
and
senate
bills,
nine
and
ten
and
a
whole
bunch
of
recommendations
from
the
city
charter
review
commission.
So
it's
a
really
bad
time
to
be
looking
at
this.
It
is
definitely
something
that
could
wait
until
next
year.
Thank
you.
S
S
Yes,
and
I
have
been
a
renter
for
seven
years
and
the
landlord
for
12
years
in
san
jose
first,
I
just
heard
about
copper
and
my
friend
no
matter
as
tenants
or
landlords
have
never
heard
about
that
before
and
when
I
google
san
jose
copper
on
the
internet
this
morning,
I
got
zero
result:
zero
in
the
internet
era.
S
How
can
you
just
simply
restrict
and
manipulate
the
free
market,
decided
housing
price?
How
can
the
sellers
survive
in
so
doing?
It
comes
not
only
housing
providers
but
also
in
the
long
run,
the
free
housing
market
and
tenant.
We
intend
to
serve.
I
strongly
oppose
cop
and
we
need
discuss
it
more
in
a
wider
public.
N
S
S
One
of
them
is
the
thing
that
they're
talking
about
all
these
people
who
are
going
to
come
in,
buy
the
property
raise
the
rents.
You
can't
do
that.
We
have
rent
control,
they
can't
raise
the
rents
anymore.
Then
I
can
raise
the
rents
and
even
the
small
amounts
which
were
allowed
in
san
jose.
S
Even
then,
you
can't
do
now
because
of
the
covered
things.
So
that's
not
a
big
deal
and
the
last
thing
really
important
thing
about
it
is
they
say
they
just
want
to
match
offers,
and
that
would
be
fine
if
the
people
went
ahead
and
matched
the
offer
that
was
received
on
the
open
market,
but
you've
put
an
exception
of
these
say
they
don't
have
to
match
time.
S
S
So
it's
extremely
important
that
if
the
non-profit
is
going
to
match
the
offer
they're
going
to
match
the
time
as
well
absolutely
of
the
essence-
and
the
last
thing
I
would
like
to
talk
about
is
somebody
came
up
with
a
magic
number
saying
that
80
of
the
properties
never
went
on
the
market.
It
was
private
sale.
S
S
S
Generally,
we
still
questioning
the
necessity
of
a
policy
that
adds
additional
time
to
the
transaction,
to
allow
nonprofits
to
make
an
offer
when,
in
fact,
if
you
look
at
the
kind
of
average
days
on
market,
both
from
the
city's
presentation
and
what
is
actually
in
on
published
in
the
mls
there's
plenty
of
time
to
make
an
offer,
you
know
the
properties
are
on
the
market
for
50
60
70
days.
S
In
that
time,
I
don't
understand
why
they
need
this
any
special
advantage
to
make
an
offer
when
there's
plenty
of
time
already
available.
Secondly,
listings
there's
plenty
of
listings,
there's
60
properties
on
the
market
right
now
have
they
made
any
bids,
have
any
nonprofits
made
bids
on
those
existing
properties?
I
question
that
the
delay
in
that
that
they're,
adding
to
the
transaction
in
somewhere
in
the
neighborhood
of
40
days.
How
are
you
supposed
to
be
able
to
determine
true
market
value,
your
property,
when
you
can't
go
out
to
the
market
and
determine
what
the?
S
What
the
market
will
bear
and
that
kind
of
hits
at
the
whole
notion
that
it's
been
repeated
on
and
on
today,
that
you
know
you're
free
to
sell
your
private
to
whoever
you
want.
You
can't.
You
won't
know
if
that
offer
from
that
non-profit
is
accurate
unless
you've
gone
to
the
open
market
to
make
that
bid.
S
Although
this
this
pro,
this
policy
needs
a
lot
more
work
and
a
lot
more
consideration
before
it's
ready
for
prime
time,
and
I
echo
many
of
the
comments
today
that
you
know
we
need
to
have
a
lot
more
outreach.
We
need
to
hear
from
a
lot
more
owners
and
we
need
you
know
more
proactive
outreach,
and
you
know,
as
far
as
as
far
as
the
california
apartment
association
is
concerned,
we
are
going
to
be
reaching
out
to
our
members
to
let
to
ask
them
their
about
their
influence.
K
Hello,
can
you
hear
me
yes
hi?
This
is
jackie
rivera
with
the
south
bay
community
elantra,
the
first
clt
in
the
south
bay
formed
to
combat
displacement
and
create
collectively
owned
permanently
affordable
housing.
We
are
here,
along
with
other
community
partners,
as
you
have
heard,
in
support
of
the
creation
of
an
effectively
funded
community
opportunity
to
purchase
act,
that
centers
tenant
decision
making
and
capacity
building
and
expands
different
homeownership
opportunities
and
overall
commits
to
the
preservation
and
creation
of
permanently
affordable
housing.
K
Copa
or
community
opportunity
to
purchase
x
gives
tenants
and
qualified
nonprofits
a
chance
in
the
fast-moving
bay
area
real
estate
market,
where
it
is
nearly
impossible
to
compete
with
open
market
buyers
who
are
offering
either
all
cash
or
more
simple,
financing
terms
and
shorter,
closing
timelines.
Of
course,
coppa
levels
that
playing
field
with
purchasing
timelines
and
funding.
That
makes
it
possible
for
tenants
and
qualified
non-profits
to
organize,
negotiate
a
contract,
secure,
financing
and
close
the
deal
to
stabilize
their
communities.
K
Thank
you
again,
for
you
know,
working
on
on
this,
and
you
know
again
really
emphasizing
tenant
centering
and
the
policy
for
those
most
impacted,
and
I
also
just
want
to
say
for
those
you
know,
you're
going
to
have
a
lot
of
folks
bring
up
property
rights
and
all
these
things,
but
point
them
towards
the
fact
that
in
dc
they
have
a
tenant
opportunity
to
produce
that
that
was
enacted
more
than
30
years
ago
in
the
capital
of
this
country,
and
that
has
not
been
contested
or
successfully
contested
so
yeah.
K
I
just
want
to
throw
in
there
also
those
things,
because
you're
going
to
hear
that
a
lot
thanks
again
for
looking
towards
board
solution,
bold
solutions
and
yeah
potentially
implementing
this
policy.
Thank
you.
C
K
Hi
good
afternoon,
council
members,
my
name
is
kelsey
baines.
I
am
with
yumby
action
that
stands
for.
Yes
in
my
backyard.
We
advocate
for
welcoming
communities
where
everyone
can
thrive,
and
I
want
to
encourage
you
to
move
forward
with
copa
in
order
to
prevent
community
displacement,
as
well
as
the
loss
of
lower
cost
rental
homes
in
the
community.
K
K
I'm
a
licensed
clinical
psychologist
and
I've
really
seen
the
consequences
of
displacement
in
our
county
by
working
with
folks
who
are
both
entering
homelessness,
trying
to
leave
homelessness
and
just
feeling
like
it's,
this
tidal
wave
that
we
can't
stop
so
really
preventing
homelessness
in
the
first
place
requires
preventing
displacement.
K
I've
personally
been
displaced
because
my
landlord
sold
the
rental
where
I
lived.
The
investors
who
purchased
the
property
demolished
multi-family
housing
to
build
mansion.
In
addition
to
this
being
bad.
For
me
as
a
tenant
and
my
fellow
attendants,
I
also
think
it's
just
bad
for
the
community
as
a
whole.
K
K
It
also
helps
reduce
health
disparities,
so
financial
disparities,
but
also
educational
disparities,
physical
health
disparities
and,
as
a
the
previous
speaker
noted,
topa,
has
already
been
successfully
implemented
for
decades
in
other
places,
and
it
is,
it
can
be
a
really
cost
effective
way
to
preserve
homes.
It's
certainly
cheaper
than
building
new
homes,
which
I'm
very
enthusiastic
about,
but
I
think
we
need
to
bring
lots
of
solutions
to
the
table.
A
Restrictions
have
been
preventing
me
from
considering
that
and
this
copa
will
be
another
big.
No,
no
for
my
plan
and,
as
I
know,
washington
dc
has
a
similar
plan
and
I
don't
think
the
housing
pricing
is
that
good,
you
know
tenants
are
still
having
problem
finding
affordable
housing.
So
it's
not
working
over
there
that
I
know
and
nationalizing
a
private
property
to
to
from
private
poverty
into
government.
Housing
had
not
worked
before
the
section.
A
Q
Hello
good
afternoon
this
is
joyce.
Can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
we
can
hi,
yes,
hi.
Thank
you
for
having
me
have
a
chance
to
to
speak
up
my
mind,
and
I
am
a
small
business
provider
landlord
in
san
jose
for
many
years,
and
I
just
want
to
see.
I
can
see
city,
council
and
the
government.
They
may
have
a
very
good
intention
in
help
the
community
which
I
appreciate,
but
I
do
not
see
the.
How
do
you
make
it
work
in
this
program
see
number
one.
Q
I
echo
the
comments
I
heard
before,
like
cheryl
or
jenny,
so
many
points
are
already
spoken
so
to
me,
the
legality
of
this
ordinance
or
program,
and
also
the
outreaching
in
depth,
and
also
the
timing,
those
things
and
and
also
the
study
in
depth
as
well.
I
don't
think
you
are
done
that
yet
so
that
that
I
want
to
focus
on
the
how
practical
you
can
enforce
this
as
a
government
agency.
How
have
have
you
done
any
study
or
in
depth
to
really
figure
out?
How
can
you
make
this
program
work?
Q
You
have
a
good
intention.
Maybe
you
end
up
like
you,
spend
taxpayers
money
and
you
have
to
you
know
it
doesn't
work.
I
saw
many
bad
examples
around
so
and
I
want
to
speak
for
the
small
business
landlord
they
may
not
have
in.
They
strive
busy
on
every
day's
life
too,
but
they
may
not
have
easy
access
to
internet.
So
that's
why
they're
not
informed
and
just
for
the
during
the
pandemic.
Q
You
know
for
the
landlord
financial
assistance
so
many
papers,
they
don't
know
what
to
do
and
lots
of
people
they
give
up
on
that.
I
want
you
to
take
consideration
of
this.
Thank
you
very
much.
S
S
S
Anything
we
can
do
to
give
the
community
more
opportunity
to
find
affordable
housing
and
have
more
control
over
their
economic
destiny
and
more
independence
is
a
good
thing
for
our
city.
Thank
you,
so
much
councilmember
for
your
time
and
for
all
the
folks
who
came
out
and
talked
about
this
issue
today,.
C
C
F
Yeah
thank
you,
chair
and
I
was
actually
gonna
just
echo
some
of
your
sentiment
right
now
or
your
statements.
I
think
we
we
heard
concern
in
regards
to
people
feeling
as
though
they'd
like
to
see
more
outreach
and
engagement
and
just
to
be
clear.
F
As
the
chair
just
stated,
this
is
still
early
in
the
process
and
there's
gonna
be
a
lot
of
opportunities
not
only
to
engage
in
committee
meetings,
but
I
wanted
to
see
if
staff
could
could
highlight
again
the
outreach
there
was
a
next
step
slide
that
you
put
up.
I
don't
know
if
you
can
bring
that
back
up
again.
P
While
we
were
waiting
for
the
program
to
take
effect
because
everyone
in
the
design
process
has
agreed
how
important
it
is
that
everyone
in
our
market
become
aware
of
what
the
rules
are,
and
everyone
is
in
agreement
on
that
and
that
it's
going
to
be
a
heavy
lift.
I
mean
there's
no
there's
no
sugar
coating
that
we
have
a
million
person
city
and
a
lot
of
small
property
owners
and
a
lot
of
residents.
P
So
I
think
success
of
the
program
depends
on
people
becoming
aware
of
what
it
means
and
what
it
doesn't
mean
and
getting
a
little
more
comfortable
with
how
it's
going
to
work
and
hopefully
not
too
hard.
Not
too
much
stress.
P
F
Yeah
that
one
there
and
kristen
was
just
making
mention
of
the
attachment
that
is
is
it
is
actually
attachment
a
that
is
accessible
to
the
public.
But
I
know
that's
not
what
this
the
this
is
just
a
powerpoint
slide,
that's
going
along
with
it,
but
if
you
don't
mind,
kristin
just
talk
a
little
bit
about
some
of
those
opportunities
that
that
are
described
here
in
attachment
a
in
the
upcoming
months,
where
we
will
actually
allow-
and
not
just
the
committee
meetings,
but
just
obviously
allowing
input
from
from
our
community.
P
Yeah
absolutely
thank
you
for
that,
so
our
thought
was
as
we're
putting
together
the
proposal
that
we
would
be
having
continued
stakeholder
meetings,
because
this
topic
goes
several
layers
deep.
Really
it's
about
a
system
that
we're
trying
to
create,
including
financing,
including
outreach,
including
capacity
building
for
non-profits.
So
people
have
spoken
to
all
those
things
tonight
or
today,
so
aft
during
our
public
outreach
period.
P
So
I'm
on
the
third
line.
There
draft
program,
description
for
public
review,
the
public
review
period.
Our
thought
is-
and
I
know
this
is
a
tough
time
of
year,
and
so
I
totally
appreciate
comments
on
that.
We
were
all
struggling
with
a
lot
of
work
to
get
done
so,
but
the
public
review
period
we
would
be
holding,
we
would
be
doing
widely
advertised
publicly
accessible
sessions
on
zoom.
P
I
also
heard
the
request
for
in-person
meetings,
and
so
it
would
be
where
we
would
start
to
introduce
the
concepts
of
the
overall
framework
and
proposal
and
then
more
details
enough
to
for
people
to
get
comfortable
with
that
next
level
and
kind
of
go
through
things
together.
So
we
anticipate
several
public
meetings
in
a
relatively
short
time.
P
So,
frankly,
that's
why
we
listed
the
flexibility
on
the
dates,
because
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
feel
comfortable
that
we've
done
enough
before
we
start
to
bring
it
forward
for
public
meetings
and
that
you
know
that
we're
getting
kind
of
a
consensus-
we
don't
know
not
everyone's
gonna-
get
comfortable
with
this
and
what
won't
be
everyone's
favorite
program.
But
we
think,
if
we'll
end
up
somewhere
in
the
middle
and
everyone
kind
of,
is
you
know,
okay
with
it
in
the
end?
They'll
live
with
it?
Then
we've
kind
of
done
our
job.
P
So
those
were
to
go
through
the
end
of
this
year
and
more
in
january,
and
then
we
will
be
deciding
about
return
to
the
committee
based
on
attendance
and
what
we're
hearing.
But
you
know
this
is
far
from
the
end
of
the
outreach
because
it
would
go
continually
after
the
council
consideration.
So
that's
the
challenge,
which
is
we're
going
to
need
feedback
on
details.
P
So
we
want
to
get
people
comfortable
enough
for
the
framework
and
the
promise
to
engage
with
us
on
more
details,
but
not
let
that
stop
us
from
moving
forward
into
that
phase
of
okay.
We
know
we
have
a
go.
It's
worth
working
on
all
the
details
together,.
F
Okay,
yeah!
No,
I
thank
you.
I
appreciate
that-
and
I
just
you
know
from
from
experience
here,
especially
with
really
broad
policies
like
this
and
and
impactful
as
we
know,
and
and
contentious
it's
important
to
have
the
outreach
and
the
education,
and,
in
my
experience-
and
this
is
very
typical
where
earlier
on,
especially
on
first
draft
language,
we
will
hear
a
lot
of
that
feedback,
and
I
know
that
obviously
the
plan
is
there
and
the
attachment
is
there.
F
So
I
encourage
anybody
that
participated
today
or
is
watching
this
concerned
about
maybe
not
feeling
engaged
are
invited
to
to
take
a
look
at
that
attachment
and
and
continue
to
be
part
of
the
process
as
we're
we're
working
through
it.
And
I
would
say
to
to
your
comment
kristin
about
looking
for
some
sort
of
consensus
here.
F
I
think
my
colleagues
that
have
been
on
the
council
with
us
recognized
it
we
end
up
at
times
disagreeing
ourselves
and
certainly
in
disagreement
with
community
on
different
policies
that
we
move
forward
on.
So
we
just
try
to
consciously
craft
the
the
best
policies
possible,
recognizing
the
impacts
and
and
then
the
the
the
benefits,
and
you
know-
and
we
know
we
recognize
that
that
doesn't
always
lead
to
full
consensus
and
in
regards
to
some
of
the
timelines.
F
So
I
think
this
is
something
just
to
clarify
that
it's
still
not
known
as
far
as
the
time
period
that
we
would
give
a
qualified
nonprofit
to
to
make
their
decision
or
to
close
on
or
make
an
offer
and
then
close
those
time
periods.
I
know
you
you
put
in
there
the
analysis
of
you
know
the
average
days
to
close
for
single
family
sales
or
condos
and
four
plexes
stuff,
like
that.
P
It
would
be
a
quicker
timeline
so
that
it
would
be
much
more
in
keeping
with
what
the
market
looks
like
now
and
then
for
larger
properties,
a
different
timeline,
so
our
technical
advisory
committee
and
our
stakeholder
advisory
committee
attendees
in
the
last
couple
of
weeks
saw
those
kinds
of
draft
proposals
and
we
invited
more
comment
and
written
comments
and
comments,
live
q
and
a's
and
and
they're,
not
shy
and
so
they're
giving
you
know
lots
of
feedback
offline
as
well.
P
So
anyway,
I
I
don't
know
if
we
wanted
to
say
any
more
about
that,
but
josh
or
aysen.
F
Yeah
yeah,
that
that's
that's
fine.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
I
was
understanding
that
correctly,
because
I
didn't
see
any
specificity
right
and
I
I
assumed
that's
something,
obviously,
that
we're
we're
still
baking
and
that
will
be
determined,
and
I
think
that
is
good
and
I
think
we're
hearing
feedback
on
that,
and
what
we
want
to
try
to
do,
in
my
mind,
would
be
to
strike
a
balance
of
giving
enough
time
for
a
qualified
nonprofit
to
decide
if
they
want
to
make
an
offer,
make
an
offer,
but
not
delaying
the
process
too
much
right.
F
That
would
then
allow
the
seller
to
to
respond
to
that,
whether
they
accept
it
or
or
obviously
that
the
delay
would
be
if
they
did
not
accept
that
offer
and
then
have
to
go
out
to
a
more
competitive.
You
know
market
process,
and
so
I
know
it's
a
balance
we
want
to
try
to
strike.
I
appreciate
the
data
that
you've
gathered
to
try
and
understand
what
are
those
average
times
that
is
actually
taking.
F
You
know
these
properties
to
close
and
it
all
makes
sense
there,
and
so
I
I
know,
that's
what
we'll
be
utilizing
to
make
our
decision
and
and-
and
I
you
know,
didn't
state
this
up
front,
but
I
am
and
have
been
generally
support
of
the
coppa
program
community
opportunity
to
purchase
act
and
then
familiar
through
now
our
process
here
with
the
program
in
san
francisco
and
then
washington
dc.
F
I
know
that
came
up
a
couple
times.
Is
there
a
concern
that
we
have
on
legality?
I
I
know
I
I
don't
have
that
concern,
but
I
wanted
to
to
see
just
sort
of
in
the
conversations
and
clearly
we've
seen
this
done.
Is
there
any
concern
the
staff
has
had
through
the
process
on
legality.
P
Yeah-
and
I
can't
I'm
not
my
attorney
chris
alexander,
who
is
off
today
for
a
well-deserved
vacation
day,
but
we've
been
consulting
because
you
know:
we've
gotten
feedback,
of
course
from
our
from
our
group
members
saying
that
they
thought
that
there
could
be
legal
concerns
with
it
and
so
far
we
are.
He
is
pretty
comfortable
moving
forward.
P
P
P
We
do
not
believe
that
takings
is
a
sound
legal
basis
for
any
claim,
and
so
again
that's
one
of
the
main
design
elements
is
that
we
want
to
design
this
so
that
it
is
not
a
major
delay
that
we're
asking
folks
to
wait
to
receive
an
offer,
because
we
understand
that
that's
a
change
and
that's
a
that's
something
that
folks,
you
know
aren't
used
to
doing,
and
so
you
know
that
is
that's
one
of
our
key
design
elements
so
that
it
does
not
become
a
problem.
F
Yeah,
thank
you
and
look:
I'm
not
an
attorney
either,
obviously,
and
on
on
the
council.
Even
though
we
have
some
attorneys,
I
don't
think
anybody's
gonna
be
able
to
to
claim
being
a
professional
in
this
this
an
expert
in
this
area,
and
so
we
rely
on
obviously
our
city
attorney's
office,
to
give
us
that
analysis,
because
I've
heard
those
concerns
as
well
and
I
I
know
they
exist.
F
A
couple
other
municipalities
and
certainly
I'm
comfortable
with
the
analysis
that
our
city
attorney's
office
does,
and
I
imagine
we'll
continue
to
look
at
that
as
as
concerns
arise.
I
would
agree
that
the
timeline
that
the
length
of
time
for
the
qualified
nonprofit
to
to
make
the
offer
is
indeed,
I
think,
the
you
know
the
biggest
concern
there
and
I
know
that's
why
we're
trying
to
be
conscious
about
that.
F
I
would
hope
that,
as
we
strike
a
balance
and
look,
I
would
I
also
hope
that
our
that
any
anybody
that
that
is
that
is
currently
not
in
support
of
the
program
would
participate
to
advocate
and
try
to
make
the
program
better.
Even
if
it's
not
something
that
they
would
support-
and
this
would
be
the
area
I
think
that
would
be
most
crucial-
would
be
to
understand
that
timeline.
F
So
then,
that
way
you
know
it
does
not
really
negatively
impact
a
cell,
and-
and
I
appreciate
that
you
know
the
the
timeline
is
the
most
sensitive,
because
otherwise,
if
a
seller
doesn't
want
to
accept
an
offer
from
a
qualified
nonprofit,
they
don't
have
to,
they
can
simply
say.
No.
So
it's
really
that
that
time
of
delay
that
they
may
believe
that
they've
been
caused.
F
That's
that's,
I
think,
of
most
concern,
and
I
would
also
hope
that
sellers
recognize
the
environment
that
we're
in
and
and
and
that
this
program
is
intended
to
try
and
keep
properties
affordable
to
try
and
keep
opportunities
there
for
individuals,
not
necessarily
take
an
opportunity
of
you
know,
earning
a
profit
on
a
cell
and-
and
I
I
too
personally
know
we
had
one
speaker-
mention
their
displacement.
F
I
was
displaced
with
my
my
wife
and
our
six
month
old
in
a
place
that
we
had
been
living
for
nine
years
and
same
thing.
It
was
good
just
going
up
for
sale
and
a
single-family
home,
and
they
they,
you
know
the
the
owners.
There
were
great
they'd,
been
great
tests.
We
had
a
good
relationship,
but
for
them
it
was.
It
was
time
to
move
out
of
the
area
selling
and,
and
they
were
looking
for
the
most
profit
possible,
and
I
would
believe
that
you
know
for
them.
F
They
would
have
been
comfortable
with
a
very
small
delay
in
allowing
an
opportunity
for
tenants,
like
my
wife
and
I
to
potentially
have
an
opportunity
to
see.
Is
this
something
that
you
know
that
we
could
utilize
a
program
like
this
to
be
able
to
to
maintain
living
in
in
the
home
and
and,
as
was
pointed
out
in
regards
to
the
number
of
single-family
homes,
where
we're
talking
about
the
percentage
of
our
our
rental
stock
being
the
second
highest.
F
With
that
32
percent,
I
mean
that's
what
we
fell
into
and
I
don't
think
many
people
recognize
that
right.
Many
people
probably
are
thinking
well,
these
are
homes
that
are
being
lived
in,
they're
actually
being
utilized
right
as
as
rental
properties,
and
those
are
the
ones
that
turn
over.
As
we
know
in
our
city
very
often
because
the
the
dollar
amount
for
single
family
homes
has
continued
to
rise
and
and
as
we
see
people
leaving
the
area
a
lot
of
that
rental
opportunity
goes
off
of
the
market
and
does
not
become
available.
F
I
think
the
impact
there
is
a
little
less
than
obviously
when
you're
looking
at
the
five
plus
units,
which
is
the
majority
of
our
rental
stock,
and
there
you're
talking
about
turning
over
or
displacing
a
lot
more
people.
So
I
think
there's
more
value
there
in
what
we'll
see
in
potentially
some
some
copa
opportunities,
but
I
just
personally
have
experienced
that
displacement
and
turnover
from
a
single-family
home
being
a
single-family
home,
tenant
and
programs.
F
Like
this,
I
again,
I
would
hope
that
our
our
sellers
of
property
here
would
actually
understand
the
value
of
this
program
and
would
be
comfortable
with
a
a
process.
A
small
timeline
that
would
allow
coppa
or
the
community
opportunity
to
purchase
would
allow
that
program
to
to
potentially
help
with
this
crisis
that
we're
in
of
a
lack
of
affordable
housing
and
so
I'll.
All.
F
I
don't
have
any
other
questions
at
the
moment
and
I'll
I'll
leave
my
comments
there.
I
know
we're
just
accepting.
I
think
the
status
update
so
I'll
make
a
motion
to
accept
the
the
update.
C
C
P
Thank
you
cheerfully,
it's
a
great
question
and
it's
something
that
we
went
back
and
forth
with
a
bit.
How
how
could
we
update
you
and
bring
more
information
to
you
and
yet
not
put
in
front
of
you
a
draft
that
seemed
to
be
cooked
when
we
did
not
feel
like,
we
had
finished
doing
outreach
on
it?
P
Yet
so
really
it's
because
we
we
had
always
intended
to
do
this
next
piece
of
public
facing
outreach
outside
of
our
technical
advisory
and
stakeholder
advisory
groups,
and
we
didn't
want
to
bring
something
to
you
too
early
that
we
hadn't
had
more
time
to
get
more
fully
vetted
with
folks.
That,
frankly,
will
be
affected
by
the
program
out
there.
C
Okay,
I
can
appreciate
that,
but
I'm
also
I'm
looking
at
what
was
sent
forwarded
to
me
from
one
of
those
members
sure
and
there's
a
lot
of
information
here.
That
has
me
questioning
the
timelines
and
raising
concerns
about
the
legality
of
some
of
the
timelines,
and-
and
I
don't
mean
as
far
as
eminent
domain
or
a
taking,
I
mean
really
to
get
into
the
weeds
a
little
bit.
A
seller
puts
a
proper.
It's
an
investment
property
seller
puts
a
property
on
the
market
selling
it
as
a
1031
exchange.
C
They
have
very
specific
timelines
that
they
must
meet.
Buyer
comes
in
buyer
also
coming
off
a
1031
exchange
and
for
those
who
are
sorry,
I'm
in
the
weeds
on
this.
But
this
has
to
do
a
1031.
Is
a
tax
deferred
strategy
on
how
investment
property
owners
can
then
defer
their
property
or
their
income
taxes
to
the
purchase
of
another
property,
another
commercial
or
investment
property.
C
If
a
non-qualified
buyer
can
buy
the
property,
so
I'm
I'm
just
throwing
it
out
there
as
something
I
am
very
concerned
with
when
this
comes
back
to
us
as
how
we're
gonna
deal
with
affecting
negatively
affecting
people
who
are
selling
their
property
and
hope
to
benefit
from
a
1031
exchange.
These
are
not
people
who
are
trying
to
not
pay
taxes,
they're
delaying
paying
taxes
by
buying
another
property.
It's
attacked
federal
tax
strategy,
so
I'll
just
leave
it
with
that.
I
could
get
in
the
weeds
a
lot
more.
C
You
know
I'm
the
realtor
professional
in
this
five
council
member
committee,
so
I
don't
want
to
get
too
far
into
the
weeds.
I
will
defer
now
to
council
member
man.
P
Thank
you
very
much
just
really
briefly.
We
heard
a
lot
about
1031
exchanges
at
the
start
of
the
process
through,
especially
through
our
our
technical
advisory
committee.
A
member
from
marcus
and
milichap
who's
been
very
faithful
to
our
process,
and
our
understanding
is
that
the
45
days
starts
when
the
at
the
close
of
escrow
of
the
selling
property,
and
so
it
really
would
to
your
point.
P
It
might
impact
reverse
1031
exchanges,
but
those
that
are
that,
where
the
seller
is
the
one
who
wants
to
enter
into
it,
they
would
still
have
the
45
days
from
the
day
that
they
close
escrow
on
this
revised
timeline.
That
would
go
as
normal.
I
think
the
question
is:
is
there
somebody
out
there
who
is
selling
a
different
property?
P
Who
would
be
looking
at
this
as
a
target
property
or
acquisition
and
therefore
they
would
be
under
the
gun
right?
However,
you
know
just
big
picture:
our
market
is
so
competitive.
That
our
thought
is
is
that
in
a
weaker
market,
that
would
be
a
much
more
concerning
thought
than
in
the
strong
market.
P
Where
you
know,
properties
generally
have
multiple
offers,
not
just
one
so
so,
but
I
I
hear
you
because
we
had
and
thank
you
for
acknowledging
how
many
details
are
involved
in
this,
so
we're
trying
to
walk
that
line
with
giving
background,
but
not
to
too
much
knowing
that
those
slides
are
out
there
in
the
public.
Now.
C
Right
and
your
your
point
is
well
taken
about
the
seller,
it's
more,
the
buyer,
who
might
be
the
one
who
benefits
from
purchasing
this
property
that
is
under
the
the
timeline
time
crunch,
as
it
relates
to
an
exchange
right.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
H
Thanks
chair,
hi
kristen,
thank
you
yeah.
Thank
you
for
the
update
and
a
lot
a
lot
of
details
here.
I
appreciate
the
the
intention
of
the
potential
program
and
I
know
we
we're
all
looking
for
solutions
to
our
housing
crisis,
so
I
I
think
the
the
debates
really
or
the
discussions
really
around
which
which
of
these
solutions,
are
going
to
be
most
effective
and
balance
the
the
different
needs
and
interests
in
the
community,
and
I
I
still
have
a
number
of
questions
and
some
concerns
about
whether
or
not
coppa
actually
hits
that
bar.
H
So
just
on
the
question
of
outreach,
just
since
we've
talked
a
lot
there,
I
just
want
to
get
a
little
more
specific.
I
appreciate
the
calendar
with
all
the
outreach
steps
and
all
the
planned
outreach.
H
But
can
you
just
give
us
a
sense
of
the
the
I
know
you
haven't
proposed
an
exact
scope
of
the
program,
but
how
many
property
owners
roughly
or
order
of
magnitude
how
many
property
owners
would
fall
under
a
copa
program
roughly
and
thus
far
how
many
have
been
made
aware
of
this
program
or
how
many
have
we
attempted
to
reach
out.
P
Thanks
for
that,
that's
a
kind
of
a
chicken
and
egg
question,
because
we
haven't
officially
proposed
what
the
exemptions
would
be
so,
but
to
your
point,
we
should
probably
do
estimates
that
if
we
bring
back,
you
know
as
we
bring
back
a
recommendation
and
as
we
go
to
the
public,
we
should
have
that
number
ready
and
if
there
are
any
options
laid
out,
what
those
numbers
would
look
like.
H
P
Yeah,
that's
a
very
good
point
and
you
know
one
yeah.
P
I
have
to
say
that
one
of
the
things
that
we've
been
made
aware
of
is
that
folks
who
are
listed
on
the
rent
registry
do
not
want
to
be
contacted,
except
about
the
programs
that
they
are
being
regulated
for
and
so,
and
so
the
city
has
put
together
more
strict
guidelines
about
reaching
out
to
the
public
and
using
e-blast
lists
from
different
departments
for
different
reasons,
and
so
that's
part
of
what's
constraining
us
because
we've
gotten
complaints
that
folks
are
like
I'm
getting
spammed
and
I
never
signed
up
for
that
list,
and
so
yeah
yeah.
H
P
H
Yeah,
well,
I
would
really
I
mean
I'm
happy
to
follow
up
offline.
We
can
continue
that
conversation.
I
I
would
really
encourage
us
to
strongly
consider
doing
that,
just
because
this
is
a
case
where
we're
discussing
proposed
regulation
that
would
directly
impact
everyone
on
that
list.
I
suspect
they
would
want
to
know
and
have
the
opportunity
to
weigh
in
before
anything
gets
decided.
H
H
I
didn't
see
in
the
report
a
breakdown
of
pros
and
cons
or
trade-offs,
or
you
know
I
always
like
to
look
at
what
are
the
unintended
consequences?
What
are
the
potential
risks
or
downsides?
I
didn't
really
see
an
articulation
of
the
concerns,
many
of
which
I
I
heard
reflected
in
the
numerous
public
comments
today.
H
I
assume
you've
captured
that
list,
but
is
there
a
reason
that,
as
as
a
committee
or
as
council
members
we're
not
yet
seeing
the
feedback
you're
getting
both
positive
and
negative
and
kind
of
how
you're
attempting
to
address
it
it
just
it
felt
like
the
memo
was
a
little
bit.
I
don't
mean
this.
It
was
a
little
bit
of
a
pitch
for
the
program
it
sounded
like
and
I
understand,
there's
a
rationale.
H
P
Yeah,
thank
you,
councilmember,
the
that's
exactly
what
we're
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
lay
out
with
the
main
memo,
and
one
of
our
thoughts
was.
If
you
start
talking
pros
and
cons
on
more
specifics,
then
really
it
leads
you
to
the
discussion
of
a
proposal
when
we
didn't
feel
like.
We
were
quite
ready
to
have
that
discussion
at
committee.
Yet,
but
that's
exactly
what
you'll
see
when
we
come
back,
which
is
here's
the
element?
P
Here's
you
know,
here's
some
information,
here's
what
people
say
pro
and
con,
and
so
it's
it's.
So
you
can
kind
of
narrate
your
way
through,
like
oh,
I
hadn't
thought
about
that.
Okay,
for.
H
H
I
would
love
to
see
that
balance.
It
would
be
really
helpful
to
understand
what
are
the.
What
are
the
frequently
asked
questions
we're
getting?
What
are
the
biggest
concerns
or
barriers
that
are
that
are
being
raised,
and
and
how
are
you
thinking
about
those?
I
think
that
level
of
transparency
would
certainly
help
us
make
an
informed
decision
and-
and
that
leads
to
another
question
I
had
about
the
status
update,
and
you
know,
I
think,
we're
I
guess
I'd
like
to
better
understand
the
exact
problem
we're
trying
to
solve.
I
understand
displacement.
H
This
is
this
falls
under
a
broader
set
of
anti-displacement
strategies,
and
I
I
get
it
at
that
at
the
30
000
foot
level.
That
makes
sense
to
me,
but
when
we
get
down
into
some
of
the
details
here,
a
couple
of
member
public
speakers
today
referenced
market
rate,
conversions,
so
minor
stages.
What
they're
referring
to
are
rent-controlled
apartments
that
are
apartments
flying
under
the
apartment,
rental
ordinance
that
are
being
converted
to
market
rate
upon
sale.
C
P
Yeah
sorry
attack,
no,
that's,
okay,
the
problem
we're
trying
to
get
at
with
this
program,
and-
and
again
I
just
want
to
say-
like
no
one
program-
is
going
to
solve
all
kinds
of
problems
and
all
kinds
of
challenges,
but
we
think
that
copa
could
lay
the
groundwork
that
other
programs
could
build
on
like
a
home
ownership
strategy.
We
want
to
make
coppa
compatible
so
that
home
ownership
strategies
can
be
used
with
these
buildings,
for
instance.
But
to
that
point,
what
we're?
P
What
we
want
to
prevent
is
to
have
profit
motivated
out-of-town
investors,
for
instance,
that
were
commonly
purchasing
large
numbers
of
single-family
homes
in
the
last
economic
downturn,
purchasing
especially
smaller
properties
here
some
larger,
but
and
have
that
be
kind
of
a
an
increasing
element
in
our
market
rather
than
and
so.
Therefore,
someone
said:
if
the
properties
are
rent
control,
they
can't
really
raise
rents.
Well,
they
can
raise
rents
and
if
they
reposition
the
property
or
do
capital
improvements,
they
can
petition
to
raise
more
than
five
percent.
P
So
if
somebody
is
living
kind
of
hand
to
mouth
already-
and
someone
comes
through
and
says,
I'm
going
to
reposition
the
building,
I'm
going
to
do
all
these
upgrades.
I'm
going
to
therefore
be
able
to
charge
more
rent
rent
control
building.
Could
they
could
absolutely
petition
to
charge
more
than
five
percent
increase,
so
they
could?
The
residents
would
get
a
six
seven
or
eight
percent
increase,
for
instance,
and
that
is
very
destabilizing
when
you
are
on
a
fixed
income.
P
Just
because
there
will
be
opportunities
for
folks
to
sell
their
buildings
and
then
who's
me
buying
them
and
what's
going
to
happen
with
the
rents.
So
that's
really
what
we're
trying
to
get
at
getting
the
more
properties
in
the
hands
of
non-profits.
That
will
work
with
the
city
over
time
to
keep
restricted,
affordable
units
affordable
in
perpetuity.
H
Right
right,
okay!
Well
thanks
for
the
example-
and
I
I
think
I
understand
the
high
level
of
10
I'm
just
trying
to
so
so
on
one
side
of
the
equation.
It
would
be
helpful
to
know
how
many
units
per
year
in
san
jose
through
these
different
mechanisms,
such
as
a
repositioning
or
an
lsat
conversion,
how
many
units
per
year
through
these
different
mechanisms,
do
we
see
being
converted
from
being
affordable
to
being
less
affordable,
where
the
rent's
going
up
more
than
the
five
percent
cap
plus
cpi.
H
So
that
would
be
just
kind
of
understanding
that
the
analysis
we're
doing
to
quantify
that
that
fear
that
we
have
that
a
lot
of
affordable
units
are
converting
into
being
unaffordable.
I
I've
heard
anecdotal
evidence.
I
would
love
to
see
data.
That
would
just
be
helpful
and
it
would
help
me
understand
how
compelling
this
solution
is
and
then
on
the
other
side
of
the
equation.
I
guess
is
what
is
the
capacity
out
there
of
the
nonprofit
sector
and
whatever
funding
sources,
we've
identified
to
have
a
meaningful
impact
on
that
market
trend?
H
So
I
guess
let
me
ask
on
that
side
of
the
equation.
Do
we
know,
is
this
a
solution
that
has
scalability?
Is
this
something
that
could
really
address
that
trend
that
you're
put?
So
I
guess
point
one
is
we're
pointing
to
a
concerning
trend,
but
I
haven't
seen
the
data
to
help
me
understand
what
the
trend
is
and
or
how
big
it
is,
and
then
two
do
we
have
evidence
or
do
we
believe
that
we're
actually
able
to
address
that
trend
through
this
kind
of
program.
P
Notes,
while
you're
talking
sorry
so
the
question
of
nonprofits,
the
non-profit,
the
affordable
housing
development
sector
and
the
nonprofits
who
are
in
that
really
to
deal
with
that
trend,
those
are
the
folks
that
would
be
the
initial
pre-qualified
entities
under
the
program,
and
you
know
long
term
we're
hoping
that
more
community
community-based
non-profits
want
to
learn
and
grow
their
capacity
to
participate
in
in
opportunities
like
that,
so
in
other
markets.
You
know
this
is
like
our
first
preservation
strategy.
If
you
will,
I
think
it's
really
the
first
coming
forward.
P
We
haven't
built
that
that
system,
yet
here,
however,
in
other
markets,
there's
absolutely
a
system
going
where
there
are
hundreds
of
units
a
year
getting
preserved.
It's
not
thousands.
It's
not
a
major
major
swap
of
the
sector,
but
it
is
small
and
steady
in
neighborhoods
that
are
experiencing
displacement,
and
so.
H
P
Well-
and
you
know
there-
oh
I'm
sorry-
I
was
going
to
ask
issen
to
weigh
in
on
this
because
he's
our
expert
at
looking
at
other
cities,
but
I'll
say
that
we've
been
looking
most
at
the
san
francisco
example,
and
there
are
many
communities
as
you
can
see
in
the
memo
that
are
considering
this
type
of
program
and
states
as
well
as
municipalities,
but
right.
D
H
D
Yeah
sure
so
I'm
gonna
go
at
it
a
couple
of
different
ways,
but
just
a
the
basic
answer
is
and
450
units
are
currently
being
preserved
under
the
small
site
acquisition
program.
So
copa
has
been
in
effect
for
about
just
about
two
years
and
of
course
that
was
copa.
I'm
sorry
that
was
kovit
impacted,
and
so
the
scale
of
the
copa
program
obviously
is
still
currently
being
built.
D
But
really
the
scale
is
really
matched
by
the
amount
of
commitment
of
resources
by
the
city
and
by
the
infrastructure
of
qualified
nonprofits
that
already
exist
in
your
city.
So
the
amount
of
commitment
as
far
as
resources
is
concerned
from
san
francisco
is
pretty
significant
and
they
have
had
already
a
pretty
pretty
robust
preservation
program,
which
I
think
really
helps
move
properties
off
the
table.
But
I
want
to
add
another
thing,
which
is
that
it's
not
so
solely
150
units
per
year
that
are
going
through
this
small
site,
this
small
site
program.
D
The
other
thing
I
was
going
to
say
is
that
in
washington
dc,
the
program
has
been
around
since
1980
about
40
years,
but
it
really
didn't
really
start
scaling.
Until
again,
the
the
local
government
started
really
putting
some
resources
towards
helping
to
finance
some
of
these
purchases
and
moving
them
off
the
market
since
2015
has
been
about.
1500
units
have
been
taken
off
the
market
from
my
understanding
right
now,
they're
trying
to
scale
up
to
about
500
between
500
and
a
thousand
units
per
year.
D
But
again,
that's
that's
a
future
plan
because
obviously,
there's
been
a
lot
of
displacement
pressures
in
the
district
in
the
past
10
years,
as
you
probably
have
seen
from
the
recent
senseless
numbers
again,
I
think
the
question
really
is
not
only
on
the
front
side
and
to
go
back
to
kristen's
point
about
chicken
and
egg
problem
is
that
what
cooper
does
is
really
help
you
sort
of
start
the
process,
but
really
there
needs
to
be
an
ecosystem
in
place
both
from
the
qualified
nonprofits,
but
also
from
the
city's
commitment
and
resources
to
be
able
to
take
those
properties
of
the
market
and
to
be
able
to
reach
the
scale
that
you're
having
a
serious
impact
in
those
areas
that
are
experiencing
the
most
amount
of
displacement.
P
How
do
we
know
that
these
guys
can
get
any
financing
whatsoever
and
if
it's
dependent
on
city
financing,
are
you
going
to
do
something
regularly
like
all
of
this
kind
of
folds
together
and
as
jason
said,
you
know,
this
is
kind
of
the
first
step
in
getting
out
there
a
an
opportunity
and
a
different
process
and
at
the
same
time,
we
need
to
increase
the
number
of
participants,
the
number
of
nonprofits
that
want
to
play
in
the
preservation
sector
here
and
our
ability
to
put
out
the
subsidy
that
makes
housing
affordable
for
that
for
preservation.
H
P
Right,
I
I
think
I
think
that
you
can
start
in
either
place
and
when
we
ask
that
question
actually
of
communities
that
have
done
preservation
actively
like
san
mateo
county,
like
oakland,
like
richmond,
we've
been
in
this
learning
cohort
from
other
bay
area
cities-
and
you
know
this
is
a
similar
question-
that
the
other
communities
that
are
pursuing
copa
in
the
bay
area
have
also
grappled
with.
There
goes
my
office
light
again.
You
know
which
is
redwood
city,
east
palo
alto.
P
You
can
start
with
the
copa
or
you
could
start
with
the
money,
but
really
when
we've
talked
to
affordable
housing
developers
they
were
like.
Is
it
worth
my
while
to
develop
or
iterate
my
business
line
to
be
in
your
market
and-
and
you
know,
is
it
worth
it
to
me
because
this
isn't
that
easy
of
a
business?
P
And
so
I
need
to
understand
what
I'd
be
getting
into
and
are
you
going
to
support
that?
Financially?
So
you
know
so
you
can
start
in
either
place.
We
started
with
this
because
you
know,
frankly,
coming
with
forward
with
an
ask
for
lots
of
money
with
no
vehicle
by
which
they
could
actually
get
an
opportunity
and
greater
insight
into
the
properties
that
are
up
for
sale
seemed
a
little
futile,
and
I
that
is
not
to
say
I
just
want
to
make
it
clear-
the
nonprofit
developers
that
we
regularly
work
with
use
brokers
right.
P
That
is
already
the
case.
So
it's
not
like
they
don't
use.
Realtors,
don't
use
brokers,
but
if
a
property
is
selling
within
a
particular
brokerage,
they're
still
not
going
to
have
insight
into
that
property
going
up
for
sale
unless
they
happen
to
be
working
with
a
brokered
broker
from
that
brokerage
right.
So
with.
N
H
I
want
to
ask
you
about
the
off
market
piece
that
seems
like
a
big
component
or
big
barrier
here
to
what
we're
trying
to
achieve.
Did
you
look
at
other
mechanisms
for
increasing
transparency
in
the
market?
H
It
seems
like
we
sort
of
have
a
question
of
a
potential
market
failure
here
and
I'm
wondering
if
there's
just
a
whether
it's
better
empowering
non-profits
with
funds
and
professional
services
or
it's
some
other
mechanism.
What
can
we
do
to
address
if
that's
the
biggest
barrier?
I
guess
what
I'm
trying
to
to
back
up
for
a
moment.
Part
of
what
I'm
trying
to
wrap
my
head
around
here
is
why
we
don't
see
non-profits
doing
this
and
kind
of
the
actual
mechanics
here
of
what
the
barrier
is.
H
P
Yeah,
that's
a
good
question
and
then
I'm
going
to
ask
my
colleague,
josh
ishimatsu,
to
comment
on
this
josh
is
an
affordable,
a
community-based,
affordable
housing
developer
for
many
years
in
the
la
area.
So
you
know
our
goal
was
not
to
do
a
big
transparency
initiative.
Our
goal
was
really
to
get
some
more
restricted,
affordable,
housing
in
perpetuity
right.
So
we're
not
like
the
department
of
real
estate
for
the
state.
They
might
do
a
transparency
initiative.
We
are
really
trying
to
figure
out.
P
How
do
we
get
more
properties
that
will
work
with
us
ongoing
to
extend
affordability
restrictions
and
make
sure
that
there
are
no
problems
on
their
property
like
that
we
get
to
go
talk
to
them.
In
case
we
hear
their
problems
like
with
folks
on
the
property,
and
then
we
have
a
you
know.
We
have
a
leg
in
that
standing
to
to
go
and
try
to
solve
that
problem
with
smaller
properties
in
general,
it
tends
to
be
locally
based.
D
Yeah
I
mean
you
know
I
mean
when
I
worked
with
a
community
based
developer.
In
los
angeles.
You
know
we
did
a
variety
of
different
apartment
buildings.
You
know
from
six
units
to
you
know
to
six
units
to
60
units
rehab,
you
know
acquisition,
rehab
projects,
and
you
know
we
assembled
properties
into
into.
We
would
buy
some
several
smaller
properties
and
assemble
them
into
one
larger
property
so
that
we
could
be
tax
credit
eligible
and
put
together
projects.
D
That
way,
but,
like
christian
says,
you
know
it's
it's
like
it's
actually
harder
work,
you
know
than
than
just
buying
a
vacant
lot,
and
you
know-
and
you
know
figuring
out
how
much
you
can
build
on
that
lot
and
and
just
building
whatever
you
know,
whatever
the
to
the
maximum
entitlements.
Would
let
you
so
you
know
it
tends
to
be
like
a
certain
type
of
developer
and
in
san
francisco.
You
know
it's.
It's.
D
The
the
developers
that
are
taking
advantage
of
copa
are
mostly
these
community
based
nonprofit
developers
as
well.
So
you
know,
I
think,
that's
that's!
That's
something
that
would
be
really
important
to
to
build
out
in
san
jose
as
well.
You
know
to
build
up
this.
This
community-based
development
ecosystem-
and
you
know
this
would
be
propa-
would
be
one
piece
of
it,
but
there'd
be
other
pieces
that
are
necessary
too.
P
H
So
I
I
guess
from
thanks
josh,
I
think
from
my
perspective,
it
would
be
helpful
to
then
understand
which
pieces
sort
of
what
the
expected
impact
is
and
which
pieces
are
necessary.
I'm
I
have
concerns
about
the
regulatory
burden.
We'd
be
adding
with
this
program,
but
part
of
what
I
think
I'm
hearing
is.
This
is
really
not
sufficient.
We
have
to
do
a
bunch
of
other
things,
so
I'd
love
to
know.
H
What's
the
what
are
all
the
other
things
we
have
to
do
and
I'm
sure
they're
in
our
anti-displacement
strategy,
but
I
I
would,
I
guess
the
question
is
with
limited
staff
time
I
mean
the
the
biggest
concern
I
hear
over
and
over
from
staff
is
just
how
how
limited
our
bandwidth
is.
You
know
what
what
is
the
straightest
path
here
and
I
have
to
admit
I'm
I'm
still
not
quite
hearing,
and
maybe
I
just
need
to
talk
to
some
of
the
nonprofits
out
in
the
marketplace
and
would
welcome
any
referrals.
H
You
might
have
I'm
not
really
clear
on
why
the
city,
basically
helping
to
identify
funding
and
professional
services
for
those
nonprofits
would
not
solve
the
problem
is.
Is
it
just
that
we
think
that
there
aren't
enough
properties
available
on
the
market
for
them
to
identify,
even
with
a
professional
realtor.
P
So
I
just
want
to
clarify
when
we're
talking
about
nonprofits
that
would
qualify
as
a
qualified
buyer
we're
talking
about
entities
like
even
housing
like
mid-pen
housing
like
hip
housing
on
the
peninsula.
You
know
so
the
old
reputable
companies
who
know
how
to
do
acquisition,
development
and.
P
Oh
they're,
very
sophisticated
already
when
we're
talking
about
our
community
partners
as
part
of
this
program.
We're
talking
about
folks
like
actually
talk
about
sophisticated
somos
mayfair
is
a
extremely
sophisticated
community
partner
with
a
lot
of
growth
potential
and,
if
somos
wanted
to,
you
know
augment
their
skills.
Actually,
one
of
the
things
that
we're
trying
to
work
on
is
figuring
out
how
to
access
outside
resources
and
put
together
a
curriculum.
P
Josh
has
also
got
10
years
of
experience
on
how
to
capacity
build
with
community-based
nonprofits.
So
he's
perfect
for
this
work.
How
do
we
pull
together?
Resources
and
try
to
you
know,
focused
work
and
then
trying
to
you
know
be
targeted
about
the
non-profits
that
we
help
in
our
community
on
the
community
partner
side,
because
we
need
both.
We
don't
just
want
out
of
town
developers
coming
in
right.
It
needs
to
be
both.
P
H
C
H
D
H
P
P
So
when
you're
seeing
buildings
that
are,
you
know,
bigger
buildings,
save
50
unit
buildings
and
they're,
taking
how
many
days
josh
and
ayson
to
close
that
doesn't
mean
they
didn't
get
interest
quickly
right,
and
so
the
question
is:
how
do
we
create
a
more
equitable
playing
field
in
ways
that
will
help
residents
here
who
are
vulnerable
of
displacement
in
a
way
that
just
allows
an
offer
to
be
considered
without
the
noise
of
I
don't
know.
P
Am
I
getting
four
other
offers
today
and
just
let's,
you
know
kind
of
a
quiet
moment
for
someone
to
consider.
Is
this
offer
fair
and
should
I
move
forward
with
these
folks?
We're
not
that's
it?
It's
a
small
pause
in
the
process.
It
is
not
a
big,
a
big,
lengthy
ask
that
we
are
going
towards.
So
that's
what
we're
going!
That's!
What
we're
that's!
What
we
think
will
help
that's
what
reportedly
from
other
cities.
H
Okay,
I
mean
I'd,
certainly
like
to
continue
to
dig
into
and
understand
that.
I
guess
my
question
would
be
with
with
the
capacity
builder,
with
the
capacity
building
that
we
could
offer
and
josh's
expertise
and
the
professional
services
we
could.
We
could
help
a
community-based
group
link
up
with.
I
would
imagine
they
could
be
positioned
to
put
in
an
offer
as
quickly
as
as
an
individual,
who
might
also
be
in
that
market
who's
competing,
maybe
on
the
really
big
ones.
Maybe
I'm
missing
something,
but
I
I'm
not.
H
I'm
still
not
quite
understanding
why
the
nonprofit
buyers
are
fundamentally
different
than
other
market
participants,
many
of
which
are
not
huge
corporations,
but
also
individuals
who
have
a
realtor,
and
so
I'm
I'm
just
especially
on
those
smaller
properties.
It
seems
like
maintaining
a
dynamic
and
flexible
market.
I
I
guess
the
other
point
here
is
that
ultimately,
the
property
owner
has
the
the
ultimate
right
to
decide
which
offer
is
best
correct.
H
And
even
with
a
right
of
there's
the
first
offer
and
then
the
first
refusal,
even
then,
even
if
a
non-profit
buyer
who
we've
empowered
hopefully
in
this
marketplace,
makes
a
comparable
offer.
I
assume
it's
still
going
to
be
up
to
the
interpretation
of
the
property
owner.
Even
if
the
dollar
value
is
the
same.
There
are
a
lot
of
other
terms
and
contracts,
so
do
they
still
ultimately
get
to
decide.
P
Yeah
we've
been
talking
about
that
with
tim
and
anil
and
other
members
of
the
work
group
that
we
need
to
come
up
with
the
definition
of
what
constitutes
an
offer.
And
while
you
know
there
might
be
ten
different
aspects
to
an
offer
or
eight,
what
are
the
critical
ones
that
that
are
material
that
would
have
to
be
matched.
It
might
not
be
every
last
one,
but
the
material
ones
would
need
to
be
matched.
H
Yeah
I'll
be
interested,
that's
an
important
point.
I
appreciate
you
mentioning
that
I'll
be
interested
to
see
how
that
evolves.
Having
done
a
lot
of
business
contracts
in
my
past
career,
hundreds
of
them
every
every
term
matters
and-
and
you
kind
of
put
a
price
on
all
the
terms-
you
know
the
reps
and
warrants
and
the
various
components
of
a
contract
and
you
kind
of
price
out
risk,
and
I
I
would
be
nervous
if
we
came
in
and
tried
to
say
with
one
size
fits
all
as
a
city.
H
These
are
the
five
terms
that
matter
and
we're
not
going
to.
Let
you
weigh
anything
else
here
in
the.
I
would
just
be
very
nervous
about
us
getting
into
the
contract
dynamics
and
trying
to
determine
which
elements
of
a
contract
matter
and
which
don't.
But
I
appreciate
you
highlighting
that
as
an
area
of
further
exploration,
I
have
many
more
questions,
but
I
feel,
like
I've
been
talking
a
lot
chair.
Do
you
want
to
interject
or
allow
someone
else
to
speak.
H
C
H
C
That
you
sit
down
with
kristen
and
go
over
a
briefing
with
her
on
your
thousands
of
additional
questions
that
you
may
have.
Yes,.
C
Great
thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
kristen.
I
have
a
lot
of
questions
too,
but
I'm
I'm
sensitive
to
the
time
and
and
would
love
to
sit
down
with
you,
because
some
of
this
is
sort
of
the
details
of
it
that
I'd
I'd
love
to
discuss
with
you.
I
appreciate
council
member
man's
line
of
questioning,
and
I
had
some
of
some
very
similar
questions
too.
R
C
Think,
preserving
real
estate
is
a
good
idea
being
competitive
and
bidding
on
real
estate.
I
think
there
is
a
little
bit
of
a
misconception
that
there
are
these
multiple
offers
that
are
occurring
on
investment
properties
that
may
or
may
not
be
occurring.
We
hear
we
know
that
happens
on
single-family
homes,
but
we
don't
know
I
I
think
that
is
less
true
in
the
four-plex
and
above
market
or
even
in
the
duplex
market.
So
it's
and
an
offer
is
it.
C
You
know
you
put
a
property
on
the
market.
You
hope
you
get
one
offer
that
your
seller's
going
to
accept
and
it
has
the
terms
and
and
price
that
everybody's
willing
to
move
forward
with
and
that
you
know
that's
kind
of
what
is
part
of
the
devil
in
in
the
details
of
this.
So
I'd
love
to
sit
down
with
you
kristin
and
talk
to
you
more
about
what
a
qualified
nonprofit
is
where
their
financing
is
coming
from.
C
What's
the
city's
commitment,
those
kind
of
things,
timing
and
and
just
get
a
a
better
sense
of
what,
where
this
is
going?
But
what
I'd
like
to
know
you?
You
mentioned
something
that
had
me
a
little
concerned
and
I
just
want
to
clarify
it
a
little
bit,
and
that
is,
you
would
mention
that
we
want
to
bring
this
to
city
council
and
then
we'll
work
out
some
of
the
details
later.
C
P
The
ordinance
will
be
spare
as
usual,
very
short
relative
to
the
details
and
that
the
program
documents
and
exactly
how
they're
worded
and
written,
I
think,
will
be
the
the
art
right
or
the
area
of
comments
after
that.
So
I
I
think
that
we'll
end
up
honing
more
details
at
that
time,
but
I
agree
that
it's
it's
been
hard
to
even
have
conversations
without
understanding
all
the
details
up
front
and
so
that
most
of
the
details
will
be
tackled
kind
of
up
front
as
we
bring
the
whole
program
concept
to
you.
Okay,.
C
Because
I
I
think
that
is
really
important
and
I
think
if
we
move
forward
with
a
program
like
like
this,
we
have
to
get
it
right.
I
know
berkeley
took
a
look
at
it
and
they
didn't
go
forward
with
it,
which
is
interesting
to
me.
So
I'd
like
to
dig
into
I
just
learned
that
today,
so
I'd
like
to
dig
into
why
that
was.
C
That's
what
yeah
that
makes
sense
so
I'll
schedule,
something
with
you,
but
I'd
also
like
you
to
consider
moving
our
timeline
back
to
post
holidays.
I'm
very
mindful
that
this
is
the
first
holidays,
that
many
people
will
actually
be
able
to
celebrate
and
and
it's
the
time
to
maybe
give
them
a
break.
So
they
may
not
want
to
come
to
these
meetings,
especially
property
owners
and-
and
we're
really
talking
about
reaching
out
to,
I
think,
homeowners,
real
estate
owners,
not
the
sure
them
on
pod
land
owners
and
and
housing
providers.
C
But
it's
really
the
the
property
owners
who
we
need
to
to
talk
to
the
you
know,
john
smith,
who
owns
a
duplex
and
let
him
know
that
this
is
going
to
happen
and
and
then
there's.
One
thing
I
want
to
hear
from
you
is
how
we're
going
to
educate
our
community
once
this
is
in
the
process,
because
we
have
realtors
or
brokers
who
help
who
represent
buyers
who
aren't
from
this
area.
C
C
So
so,
with
that,
do
I'm
I'm
going
to
finish
but
I'll
schedule,
something
with
you
kristin
if
you,
if
you're
available,
I
think
that
would
be
really
helpful
for
me
to
sit
down
and
understand
a
little
bit
more
and
with
that
do
any
any
of
my
other
council
colleagues
have
questions.
C
If
not,
why
don't
we
vote
to
accept
the
report
and
again
thank
you
kristen
for
your
report,
ayson
and
joshua.
Thank
you
as
well,
and
thank
you
to
the
community
for
being
here
and
offering
your
input.
It
is
really
important
and
I
make
I
always
listen
to
all
of
the
comments
and
I
make
notes
on
all
of
the
comments
as
well.
So
I
have
several.
You
know,
like
10
pages
of
dot,
of
notes
that
accompanied
your
statements.
F
A
H
A
I
E
C
Whoops,
muted
myself,
thank
you
for
the
really
good
questioning
from
council
member
protestant
council
member
man.
I
appreciate
the
the
insight
very
helpful
and
kristin.
Thank
you
so
much
for
your
passion
and
and
commitment
all
right
with
that.
We're
finished
with
the
formal
agenda,
and
now
it
is
time
for
public
comment.
L
Thank
you
very
much.
Well,
you
know
this
reading
is
on
community
and
that's
what
I'm
looking
at
is
community
development.
L
You
know
that's
what
we
really
need
to
be
looking
at
and
focusing
on
as
we
are
dealing
with
the
crises
as
we
experienced
last
night,
and
you
know
this
is
what
this
is,
what
climate
change
looks
like,
and
so
what
we
have
to
do
is
prepare
ourselves
to
be
resilient,
and
that
includes
and
what
we
did
with
even
our
city
resiliency
fund
and
then
the
the
state
and
the
federal
funds
that
are
coming
in
for
resiliency
and
hero
and
all
this
it
has
to
be
focused
on
the
green
economy
and
when
we,
you
know,
celebrate
that,
there's
a
duncan
donut
how
how
green
is
the
dunkin
donuts?
L
You
know
that's
what
we
have
to
be
looking
at,
and
so
what
I'm
saying
is
that
we
need
to
be
supporting
the
green
economy
and
that's
where
only
two
percent
of
the
federal
funds
went
to
the
green
economy.
So
this
is
where
we
need
to
make
this
transformational
change
and
it
is
about,
and
and
that's
what
I
say
you
know
with
valerie
middlebrook.
L
I
mean
she's
got
a
non-profit,
a
small
and
she's
been
a
small
business
owner,
and
our
whole
thrust
is
to
build
25
by
25,
build
eco
villages,
and
this
is
what
we
need
to
start
supporting
and
building
our
housing
and
our
you
know
as
a
companion
food,
and
that
that
we
and
she
says
that
we
can
support
growing
enough
food
right
here
in
san
jose,
and
we
need
to
do
that.
L
We
need
to
you
know,
have
a
transformational
unifying
experience
to
really
see
if
we
can
do
that
as
we
go
forward,
so
that
that's
just
something
that
we
need
to
be
focused
on
is
buying
land
and
to
really
put
our
money
where
our
mouth
is
literally
to
grow
food
locally.
And
that
needs
to
be.
You
know
to
even
have
a
future.
L
We
need
to
think
about
how
we
can
go
ahead
and
do
that
and
get
off
of
fossil
fuels
is,
and
these
are
jobs
that
she's
creating
for
the
and
training
that
we
would
do
for
the
homeless,
to
create
jobs,
to
to
grow
food
and
to
make
our
you
know,
earth
the
garden
make
our
neighborhoods
a
garden
again
for
all
of
ourselves
and.
B
All
right,
this
is
blair
beekman.
Here,
thanks
for
the
meeting
today,
I
learned
a
lot.
I
thought
this
copa.
Things
was
kind
of
heading
down.
You
know
middle
class
street
and
middle
road
street
middle
of
the
road
street.
This
is
really
interesting
stuff.
What
it
can
do,
I'm
hoping
it
can
be
a
good
example
how
we
can
build
the
future
of
our
free
market
economy
practices
based
on
these
good
examples.
B
Thanks
for
this
item,
I
I
you
know,
I
think
I'm
gonna
change
my
name
to
mr
magoo,
because
I
I
try
and
I'm
just
I'm
not
quite
there,
but
yet
I
can
do
something
kind
of
nice
and
so
to
deal
to
ask
about
there's
an
upcoming
memo
in
rules
in
open
government.
That's
going
chappie,
jones
and
and
sergio
jimenez
are
asking
to
pretty
much
end
the
city
charter
process.
B
At
the
end
of
the
year,
I'm
hoping
there
can
be
ways
to
at
least
consider
a
study
process
and
a
connection
of
issues
around
affordable
housing
through
early
the
early
spring.
I
think
to
have
that
sort
of
study
and
focus
for
a
few
more
months
can
can
prepare
the
future
of
the
equity
roundtable
and
the
covid
economic
forum
and
the
reimagined
task
force.
It
can
be
good
examples
for
that.
I
think,
and
and
we'd
be
focused
with
good
examples
of
what
that
can
do.
B
You
know
the
the
memo
from
from
vice
mayor
and
and
sergio
hermanos
makes
a
point.
I
just
hope
we
can.
B
You
know,
explore
the
idea
of
of
extending
a
steady
process
if
nothing
else
and
with
that
said,
the
the
subcommittee
process
was
a
really
difficult
situation
for
us
at
the
city
charter
because
of
the
events
of
the
bta,
and
at
that
time
everybody
closed
up
massively,
and
you
know
it's
a
time
we
can
start
to
open
up
and
ask
what
can
be
a
good
public
process
for
the
subcommittee
process
as
there
are
these
three
important
commission
meetings,
I've
spoken
about
that
are
going
to
be
coming
up
soon.
Let's
make
the
subcommittee
open.
N
Around
housing
we're
doing
organizing
for
around
four
years
regarding
displacement-
and
I
want
to
thank
you
guys
for
moving
this
program
copa
forward.
I
think
it's
something
that
we
it's
much
needed
here
in
our
neighborhood,
especially
in
the
most
impacted
areas.
Like
the
east
side,
I
live
in
the
mayfair
community
and
I
see
the
need
of
housing
every
single
day.
I
know
family's
friends
that
have
me
push
out
of
san
jose
and
they
they'll
cause
them.
N
I
had
a
trauma
about
that,
especially
around
our
kids,
so
I
really
appreciate
that
you
guys
moving
so,
but
also
doing
a
little
more
research
about
this.
We
have
been.
You
know
talking
out
there
with
the
community.
We
have
been.
You
know,
kind
of
educating
people
around.
What
copa
is
it's
something
that
is
going
to
benefit
our
community
a
lot?
So
I
really
encourage
you
guys
to
to
keep
moving
forward
and
also
keep
community
engaged,
but
not
just
you
know,
landlords
not
just
apartment
associates,
but
also
community.
D
Hi
pam
and
team.
Thank
you
so
much
for
taking
the
time
and
listening
to
us-
and
this
is
a
great
opportunity
for
all
of
us,
to
hear
a
little
bit
more
and
learn
more
about
coppa.
I
unfortunately
was
not
aware
of
coppa
and
was
only
reached
out
to
just
in
the
recent
last
couple
of
months.
I
didn't
had
no
idea
that
the
city
council
or
the
housing
department
was
working
on
this
since
april
of
this
year.
D
I
agree
with
everyone
that
we
need
more
housing
and
housing
at
lower
cost,
but
coppa
does
not
solve
either
of
these
problems.
This
is
a
first
right
to
purchase
and
is
a
big
deal.
This
is
not
to
be
taken
lightly.
It's
a
new
concept,
it's
not
normal!
It's
not
free
market.
We
should
not
give
anyone
first
and
especially,
not
last
right.
We're
giving
people
we're
talking
about
completely
changing
the
system
and
if
we
proceed
it
will
negatively
impact
middle
class
and
small
business
owners
and
investors.
The
most
you
we
there
was
already
talk
about.
D
The
the
non-profits
that
were
being
discussed
are
larger,
non-profits,
basically
government
entities
or
government
subsidized
entities.
If
the
government
and
their
nonprofits
would
like
to
buy
properties-
and
they
can
and
should,
but
they
should
do
do
it
through
the
normal
process.
Work
with
real
estate
companies
brokers
follow
the
system
that
exists.
We
should
not
make
the
city
of
san
jose
an
experiment
that
will
likely
go
bad
and
we'll
have
negative
results
along
with
many
frustrated
property
owners
and
business
owners.
D
I
think
we
should
really
just
take
two
steps
back
like
matt
and
pam,
and
many
of
others
have
have
asked.
You
know,
let's,
let's
look
at
what
the
problems
is
and
the
solutions,
because
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
speculations
about
problems
that
don't
exist.
A
large
properties,
large
apartment
buildings
are
not
highly
sought
after
it's
not
as
competitive
as
people
are
saying,
especially
when
you
get
to
the
larger
units,
which
is
where
you'll
get
the
most
bang
for
your
buck,
it
would
be
a
lot
easier
for
them
to
just
follow
the
normal
system.
S
Hi,
my
name
is
maria
guerrero,
I'm
part
of
the
sinos
activos
voice,
sonomas
mayfair
and
honestly.
I
think
we
should
do
a
lot
more
talking
with
the
community,
not
just
homeowners,
but
the
renters,
our
renters,
that
are
living
in
here
that
are
impacted
by
a
lot
of
what's
going
on.
I
have
worked
with
community
for
years
and
I've
heard
stories
of
them
being
displaced
and
moving
to
other
count
like
counties
states,
because
they
can't
stay
here
in
our
system.