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Description
City of San José, California
Community & Economic Development Committee meeting of August 24, 2020
This public meeting will be conducted via Zoom Webinar. For information on public participation via Zoom, please refer to the linked meeting agenda below.
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A
A
B
B
C
C
B
C
Maya
all
right,
we
got
maya
as
well
great.
We
have
a
quorum
all
right.
Well,
let's
start
with
the
report
on
economic
activity
kim,
take
it
away.
B
The
the
budget
that
you
adopted,
including
budget
action,
to
take
the
position
that
I
was
in,
which
was
both
deputy
city
manager
and
director
of
the
office
of
economic
development
and
to
separate
those
into
two
into
two
positions.
So
so
nancy
is
flying
back
from
dropping
her
daughter
off
at
college
this
afternoon.
So
she's
not
able
to
be
with
us,
but
in
the
future
nancy
will
be,
is
responsible
and
will
be
giving
the
verbal
report.
You
know,
along
with
elizabeth
handler,
and
I
will
still
be
supporting
the
ced
committee
and
working
with
all
of
you.
B
E
Thank
you
kim
and
committee
members.
It
is
my
distinct
pleasure
to
to
be
back
with
you
to
have
done
the
second
monthly
report.
During
the
covet
period.
We
were
in
advance
for
a
while,
because
our
communications
was
entirely
dedicated
to
supporting
our
business
partners
and
helping
deal
with
emergency
communications
issues
through
eoc,
but
we
do
have
some
mixed
recovery
and
and
general
interest
information
coming
up
now
for
our
september
newsletter
and
I'll
walk
you
through
it.
E
As
you're
perfectly
well
aware,
the
commercial
linkage
fee
issue
continues
to
work
its
way
through
and
we're
trying
to
keep
as
updated
as
we
can,
so
that
our
business
partners
and
readers
understand
at
what
stage
the
the
linkage
fees
discussions
are
are
being
managed.
So
that
was
one
post
that
we
did.
E
We
also
were
excited
to
be
able
to
share
a
tool
that
our
housing
catalyst
jared
ferguson
has
developed,
which
is
an
extremely
detailed
interactive
map,
posing
as
a
as
a
database.
That
answers
all
your
questions.
E
If
you
happen
to
be
looking
for
a
place
to
build
housing
in
the
city
of
san
jose
and
there's
a
video
tutorial
that
will
walk
people
through
how
to
work
this
map,
as
well
as
a
survey
on
how
people
experiencing
this
map,
think
it
could
be
improved.
So
it's
kind
of
a
beta
test
of
this
service,
but
it's
part
of
the
geographical
data
conglomerations
that
we
are
very
focused
on
making
available
to
to
planners
developers
in
the
general
public
and
business
leaders
throughout
the
city.
E
The
interesting
news
came
out
after
the
federal
paycheck
protection
plan,
funds
had
been
announced
and
distributed
was
the
impact
of
those
funds
on
the
city
of
san
jose
and
early.
This
was
an
early
report.
I
think
in
in
may
that
it
topped
about
a
billion
dollars
just
to
the
city
for
businesses
in
the
city
and
there's
details
there
about
the,
for
instance.
The
top
three
business
in
sectors
that
received
ppp
loans
were
restaurants,
software
and
law
firms,
128
000,
plus
jobs,
were
retained
as
a
result
of
those
paycheck
protection
loans.
E
So
it's
a
lot
of
good
news
that
doesn't
usually
get
told.
We
hear
a
lot
about
the
businesses
who
weren't
able
to
get
them,
but
that
effort
continues
through
both
oed
and
eoc
to
continue
to
find
sources
of
funding
loans
and
grants
for
small
businesses.
E
Another
part
of
our
big
support
effort
is
the
alfresco
initiative
which
is
providing
the
usage
of
unconventional
spaces
throughout
the
city
for
business
operations.
The
business
operations
are
in
some
cases
the
locations
only
support
restaurants.
In
some
cases
they
support
a
wide
range
of
restaurant,
retail
and
personal
care
services
and
education
and
fitness
and
exercise.
E
Public
parks,
plazas,
city-owned
parking
lots
and
complete
street
block-offs,
as
in
san
pedro
square,
we're
very
busy
administering
all
the
applications
and
the
various
requirements
for
people
to
take
advantage
of
that
program,
which
is
free
and,
in
many
cases,
virtually
instantaneous
upon
registration.
You
can
go
ahead
and
put
your
chairs
out
on
your
sidewalk
or
on
the
on
the
parking
lot
and
and
go
into
business.
E
Covent
communications
throughout
this
time
have
been
ongoing,
so
we
just
included
a
couple
of
examples,
questions
that
came
up
that
were
being
answered
by
a
team
in
oed,
including
the
the
chief
of
that
department,
nathan,
donato
weinstein,
is
examples
of
the
kinds
of
questions
that
we
got,
especially
around
the
social
distancing
protocols
which
are
complicated
and
confusing
and
extremely
vital
for
controlling
the
spread
of
covid.
E
E
So
if
you
still
want
to
know
whether
or
not
you
have
to
file
a
social
profile,
we
suggest
you
read
our
blog
post
on
it,
communicating
with
businesses
during
covid,
we
used
a
lot
of
different
channels
and
tactics
and
we
were
dealing
with
a
rolling
situation
in
a
lot
of
cases.
Many
of
you
will
remember
the
beginning
of
july.
E
Many
businesses
were
open
for
an
exciting
two
and
a
half
days
and
then
had
to
shut
down
again
and
trying
to
keep
track
of
how
the
county
and
the
state
were
reacting
with
and
against
each
other,
with
the
various
statistical
issues
that
came
up
and
what
the
implications
were
for.
Our
businesses
was
was
a
challenge,
and
especially
since
we've
committed
to
do
virtually
timely
as
ver
as
timely
as
we
can
the
translations
into
vietnamese
spanish
and
both
chinese
traditional
and
simplified.
E
So
it's
a
a
big
workload
that
the
epio
staff
have
been
super
super
helpful
in
getting
us
to
to
achieve.
C
Thank
you
very
much
for
that
report.
Any
questions
from
my
council
colleagues
all
right,
seeing
none
we're
going
to
move
on
to.
I
think
the
the
only
item
that
we
have
on
our
agenda
other
than
this
report
council
members
chair.
We
have
a
hand
raised
for
public.
Oh,
do
we?
Yes,
I
apologize.
I
didn't
see
it.
F
Hi,
can
you
hear
me
yes,
great?
Thank
you.
Hopefully,
my
sound
quality
will
be
better.
I
have
a
new
phone
I
purchased,
so
hopefully
you
can
hear
me
better.
Thank
you
for
that
item.
It
was
really
interesting
to
learn
that
you
took
a
lot
of
time
with
chinese
interpretations
as
well.
I
imagine
that
you're
working
on
many
different
levels
of
interpretations
for
people
to
understand
throughout
the
city
of
your
you
know,
budget
policies
and
and
overall
city
policies.
F
You
know
it
sounds
like
you're
taking
a
lot
of
care
about
this
issue
at
this
time,
and
so
I
hope
it
can
all
be
easier
for
us
to
eventually
you
know
how
we
can
talk
to
zoom
and
you
know
their
hang-ups
that
they
have.
You
know
how
to
talk
them
through
that's
important,
and
I
hope
you
can
do
that.
Well,
with
a
minute
20
left
I
wanted
to.
F
You
know,
I
think
it's
going
to
be
a
new
thing,
I'm
going
to
talk
about
during
open
forums
that
or
public
comment
that
you
know.
I
want
to
be
able
to
think
about
the
economy
in
the
next
few
years.
In
this
time
of
covid
and
I'm
learning
to
feel
that
you
know,
we
can
eventually
grow
past
covet
in
the
next
couple
years.
F
It
may
not
be
next
year,
but
starting
the
next
year
after
that,
we'll
we'll
have
a
better
rhythm
about
how
to
deal
with
what
may
be
an
ongoing
situation
that
will
slowly
lessen
its
harmful
effects.
I
guess
we're
gonna,
that's,
maybe
the
idea
we're
working
towards
and
how
do
we
think
of
our
economy?
In
those
terms,
you
know
there
is
a
stock
market
that
is
doing
incredibly
well
still,
and
you
know
how
can
that
translate
to
everyday
city
services
that
should
be
able
to
continue.
F
I
go,
I
know
you
guys
are
trying
really
hard
and
to
make
sure
of
those
things,
and
how
can
we
convince
ourselves?
You
know
how
do
we
make
those
efforts
that
money
is
plentiful
and
available
and
we
don't
have
to
bring
ourselves
down
into
the
pits
you
know
to
to
to
bring
ourselves
to
to
good
reasons
and
and
good
solutions
and
good
ideas.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
so
much
council
member
for
canvas
and
committee
and
thrilled
to
be
here
today,
nathan,
donato,
weinstein,
with
office
of
economic
development.
Here
we
go,
I'm
gonna
share
my
screen
and
make
it
large
just
a
moment
here
we
go
look
good
thumbs
up
awesome
all
right.
Well,
I'm
again,
I'm
so
happy
to
be
here
today.
The
primary
subject
of
today's
presentation
is
a
report
completed
earlier
this
year
on
the
state
of
san
jose's
manufacturing
lands.
A
We
originally
planned
to
present
a
committee
a
lot
earlier
this
year,
but
obviously
things
took
a
different
path,
but
you
know
the
reports
core
data
and
findings
are
still
highly
relevant
today
and
maybe
more
relevant
than
ever.
Since
I
really
believe
manufacturing
will
play
such
an
important
role
in
our
local
and
national
recovery
from
covid19,
and
today
we
are
really
thrilled
to
be
joined
by
two
experts.
For
our
presentation,
kate
sofis
is
ceo
and
co-founder
of
sf
made
inc,
which
led
the
study
we
will
explore
today,
an
sf
maid.
A
A
They
provide
advising
services
for
manufacturers,
training
and
job
seeker
assistance
for
low-income
workers,
research
for
policy
makers
and
cities
and
events
to
keep
the
industry
connected
and
sf
made,
has
also
launched
a
sister
organization
called
placemate,
which
is
a
non-profit
industrial,
real
estate
developer,
one
of
the
few
in
the
nation
in
20.
Just
a
few
years
ago,
in
2018,
sf
maid
launched
manufacture,
san
jose
with
a
similar
mission
and
an
overarching
goal
of
building
more
shared
prosperity
and
equity
in
our
region.
A
They're
focused
solely
on
san
jose
and
our
manufacturers.
Here,
I'm
happy
to
be
joined
by
michael
erickson.
The
regional
director
and
michael
today
will
give
us
a
little
bit
more
of
a
feel
for
the
on
the
ground
conditions,
since
the
report
was
published
around
our
the
manufacturing
sector
in
the
age
of
covid19.
A
So
you
know
we
talk
a
lot
about
manufacturing
in
in
oed,
but
just
quickly.
I
wanted
to
run
down.
You
know
why
we
care
so
much
about
this
sector
and
some
of
this
you've
heard
from
us
before,
but
it's
always
good
to
kind
of
refresh.
A
A
So
we
want
to
have
strong
bases
in
in
many
sectors
and
to
give
you
just
kind
of
a
taste
of
some
of
the
data.
When
we
look
at
our
metro
area,
which
currently
is
sort
of
the
best
kind
of
data
we
have
on
this
subject,
we
saw
that
our
metro
area
lost
about
4.7
of
its
manufacturing
jobs
from
june
2019
to
june
2020,
which
is
the
most
recent
month.
A
We
have
data
for
that
compares
to
about
9.1
percent
of
jobs
lost
in
the
region,
sort
of
overall
across
all
civilian
sectors,
and
of
course,
some
sectors
were
were
hit
much
more
dramatically
as
as
we
know
that
doesn't
mean
manufacturing
is
hunky-dory,
but
it's
just
kind
of
a
sense
of
the
way
things
have
fallen
on
that
sector.
A
Third,
you
know
manufacturing
supports
our
city
physically
and
quarter
to
quarter.
It
is
consistently
our
third
or
fourth
largest
producer
of
sales
tax,
usually
falling
after
retail
trade
and
accommodations
in
food
services
and
then
finally,
having
manufacturing
infrastructure
in
place
really
helps
not
just
san
jose,
but
silicon
valley
and
our
country
overall
maintain
its
secret
sauce.
So
you
know,
even
if
a
tech
giant
no
longer
has
mass
production
locally,
as
many
have
offshored
their
production
overseas.
A
You
know
the
logos
on
this
slide
represent
manufacturers
who
are
all
among
our
top
50
employers
in
the
city
by
number
of
employees,
and
these
companies
alone
represent
about
17
000
jobs,
actually
a
little
bit
more
and
most
of
these
companies
actually
do
make
things
in
san
jose
still,
and
you
can
see
the
diversity
really
stretches
from
things
like
defense,
in
the
case
of
cobham,
in
edenvale,
medical
supplies
like
bb,
biosciences
in
north
san
jose
circuit
boards,
like
super
micro
sheet,
metal,
hvac
products
like
therma
and
more,
and
then
lately,
who
can
forget
over
the
last
few
months
that
the
pandemic
has
really
highlighted
the
importance
of
manufacturing
nationally
to
our
national
resilience,
and
I
think
people
were
shocked
back
in
you
know,
march
and
april,
to
see
shortages
of
things
like
hand,
sanitizer
and
sani
wipes
and
surgical
masks,
and
one
of
the
cool
things
we
learned
in
the
eoc
is
that
here
in
san
jose.
A
We
really
do
have
companies
that
are
making
key
pieces
of
our
national
response
right
here
in
san
jose,
so,
for
instance,
bd
biosciences
makes
reagent
chemicals
that
are
needed
for
covid19
response
and
testing.
Another
contract
manufacturer
has
been
making
parts
for
ventilators
and,
as
many
of
you
know,
our
own
10th
street
distillery
reconfigured
their
production
to
produce
hand
sanitizer,
which
is
super
cool,
and
you
know
our
as
an
organization.
The
city
has
supported
manufacturing
in
in
several
ways.
A
Over
the
years
and
one
of
the
most
important
of
the
you
know,
more
recent
kind
of
era
is
through
policies
that
attempt
to
prioritize
the
preservation
of
industrial
land,
and
this
isn't
always
just
about
housing
development.
It's
also
sometimes
about
the
way
office.
Type
of
development
can
also
encroach
on
industrial
land,
and
that's
so
important,
because
if
businesses
don't
have
the
right
space
at
the
right
price
and
the
right
location,
they
can't
operate
and
we'll
lose
them
to
other
areas
of
our
state,
country
and
and
world.
A
Another
key
thing
key
way
that
the
city
has
supported
the
sector
is
through
permitting,
so
can
an
industrial
business
get
a
tool
installed
with
you
know
relatively
little
pain
in
sort
of
a
relatively
quick
time
frame
in
san
jose.
The
answer
is
yes
through
the
industrial
tool,
installation
or
iti
program,
the
lesser
known
sibling
of
the
sti
program,
and
it
is
really
kind
of
important
attraction
and
retention
tool
for
us
for
our
manufacturers.
A
They
tell
us
that
it's
a
key
differentiator
for
us,
because
it
does
help
streamline
the
process
of
making
upgrades
to
a
facility.
A
Things
like
working
with
our
education
partners
on
career
pathways,
networking
and
events
through
the
manufacturing
roundtable,
which
was
a
sort
of
san
jose,
led
regional
initiative
that
has
now
been
kind
of
taken
on
by
manufacturer,
san,
jose
who's,
doing
an
awesome
job
and
then,
of
course,
the
partnership
between
the
city
and
and
that
organization
as
well,
and
then
cool
things
like
manufacturing
week,
which
is
like
the
kind
of
the
dessert
of
our
job
to
go
out
once
a
year
and
hang
out
with
hundreds
of
kids
as
they
get
to
tour
our
local
businesses
and
learn
about
the
industry,
jobs
and
what
skills
you
need
to
get
a
good
job
after
high
school
or
after
college.
A
What's
kind
of
out
there.
And
these
are
some
photos
from
last
year,
courtesy
of
michael
and
so
not
that
long
ago.
Oed
wanted
to
get
a
handle
on
just
what's
really
going
on
in
our
manufacturing
sector,
in
a
deeper
way,
paying
particular
attention
to
kind
of
the
the
real
estate
environment.
And
this
is
really
consistent
with
our
general
plan
and
economic
strategy.
A
And
so
we
partnered
with
sf,
made
to
really
run
the
numbers
and
explore
the
current
state
of
our
industrial
jobs
and
really
how
well-suited
the
city's
industrial
base
is
to
supporting
these
companies
and
look
for
ways
to
continue
to
support
them
going
forward,
and
so
with
that,
I
actually
am
going
to
turn
it
over
to
to
kate
sophis.
Who
is
going
to
present
some
of
the
the
key
findings
and
tidbits
from
the
study
and
so
kate
go
ahead
and
take
yourself
off
mute.
And
then
I
am
your
clicker.
G
All
right,
so
I
guess
I'll
just
say,
click
when
it's
time,
I'm
assuming
everyone
can
hear
me
and
good
to
see
some
of
you.
G
Let
me
preface
this
and
and
again
I
think
it's
been
that,
while
the
study
and
the
data,
on
the
one
hand,
was
collected
pre-pandemic,
that
in
our
experience
in
san
jose
and
in
the
other
communities
in
the
bay
area
in
which
we
work,
which
now
includes
san
francisco
and
the
east
bay
manufacturing,
has
maybe
never
been
more
important
and
more
resilient,
and
I
think
you
know
the
combination
of
the
realization
that
I
think
all
of
us
have
had
about
how
important
it
is
to
have
strong
reach
supply
chains,
whether
you're,
looking
at
personal
protective
equipment
or
you're.
G
G
Manufacturing
has
demonstrated
that
it
needs
to
be,
and
it
needs
to
be
back
in
its
in
its
commercial
industrial
buildings.
Really
you
can't
do
much
manufacturing
at
any
scale
from
your
home,
and
so
I
think
what
that
really
has
meant
is
that
the
real
estate
itself,
unlike
certain
other
kinds
of
commercial
space,
is
not
sitting
lifeless
right
now
without
people
in
it,
it's
quite
the
opposite.
Manufacturing
is
back,
and
so
what
we're
going
to
be
looking
at
really
the
places
where
making
happens
in
san
jose.
G
Those
are
very
much
still
real
and
very
active
right
now.
In
some
ways
they
are
the
main
commercial
business
operating
in
some
of
these
neighborhoods,
which
I
think
is
both
interesting
and
and
provides
a
real
important
lens
to
thinking
how
to
maintain
community
vibrancy,
even
you're,
still
in
the
midst
of
a
pandemic.
G
So
with
that,
why
don't
we
sort
of
tick
through
the
numbers
and
nathan?
Are
there
questions
allowed
at
the
this?
Procedurally,
yes,
okay,
so
we'll
make
sure
whenever
it's
allowed
and
appropriate
happy
to
take
questions.
G
I
think
really
we
hit
on
on
this
in
nathan's
preamble.
So
why
don't
we
just
move
on
from
there?
G
So
this
is
a
snapshot
of
the
variety
of
manufacturers
that
you
have,
and
you
know
I
think
it's
sometimes
easy
for
many
of
us
to
notice
the
really
big
manufacturers
and
we
saw
some
of
their
logos
on
a
previous
slide
or
two.
But
what
to
me
is
such
a
heartening
story
about
san
jose
is
while,
yes,
you
have
a
very
strong
presence
in
computer
and
electronic
advanced
manufacturing.
G
If
you
want
to
call
it
that
you
also
have
a
strong
presence
in
food
manufacturing
and
kinds
of
furniture
manufacturing
and
we're
going
to
come
back
to
this
diversity,
because
when
we
talk
about
economic
resiliency,
it's
really
the
combination
of
these
larger,
mostly
not
all,
but
mostly
advanced
technology.
Driven
manufacturers
combined
with
this
really
large
number
of
smaller
what
I
might
call
sort
of
legacy
manufacturers,
some
of
which
have
passed
from
generation
to
generation
and
exist
in
your
neighborhoods,
which
we'll
see
in
a
minute.
G
When
that
started,
it
was
in
fact
advanced
compared
to
older
kinds
of
technologies.
But
what
I
would
argue
now
is
that
really
these
kinds
of
computer
manufacturing
techniques
you're
going
to
start
seeing
in
all
manufacturing,
particularly
in
manufacturing,
the
kind
that
we
see
here
in
the
bay
area,
which
still
remains
one
of
the
more
most
or
more
expensive
parts
of
the
world
to
operate
in.
G
So
we
we
are
using
today
really
more
we're
going
to
use
the
term
next
generation
manufacturers
to
really
represent
these
truly
sort
of
hybrid
or
pure
play
technology,
driven
manufacturers,
electronics,
computers
and
telecommunications,
and
then
we're
going
to
talk
about
these
traditional
legacy.
Manufacturers,
which
are
often
smaller,
but
they
all
are
using
different
varieties
of
advanced
manufacturing.
Now,
which
I
think
is
a
really
really
interesting
thing
to
understand
that
you
can
have
a
very
simple
say:
food
processing
operation,
but
use
the
computer-controlled
packaging
equipment
or
you
might
have
in
oakland
a
garment
manufacturer
who's.
G
So,
in
addition
to
just
having
a
lot
of
jobs,
which
I
think
nathan
hit
on
quite
well,
they
also
tend
to
have
long
in
a
good
way
pathways
when
an
individual
starts
with
less
than
a
four-year
degree
for
them
to
gain
skills
and
income
and
really
build
into
a
family
standing
decent
wage
career.
G
We
find
people
who
have
started
with
you
know
very
limited
experience
in
these
industries
going
from
a
test
tech
kind
of
person
to
an
assistant
engineer
and
beyond.
So
that's
one
reason
that
these
are
such
important
fields.
When
we
talk
about
equity
next-
and
let
me
just
stop,
can
you
guys
hear
me?
It
said
my
internet
connection
was
unstable,
we're
still,
okay,.
G
Great
thanks,
probably
just
zoom,
making
an
excuse
in
case
it
goes
down
again
today.
G
So
this
is
an
example
of
some
of
these
other
traditional
or
legacy
manufacturers,
sort
of
as
a
counterpoint
to
the
sort
of
tech
forward
kinds
of
manufacturers
and
again,
a
real
diversity.
Breakfast
cereal
manufacturing
to
retail
bakeries,
making
blinds
other
kinds
of
small
electronics
that
go
into
big
electronics
next
page
and
these
legacy
or
traditional
manufacturers.
G
What
you're
about
to
see
in
a
minute
are
really
important
to
san
jose
both
because
they
are
scattered
throughout
your
neighborhoods,
and
so
they
offer
in
many
ways
a
true
possibility
to
live
and
work
in
the
same
neighborhood
that
some
of
the
larger
technology-driven
manufacturers
are
a
little
bit
further
afield
from
some
of
the
neighborhoods,
and
there
is
a
much
higher
proportion
of
multi-generational,
family-owned
businesses
and,
specifically
businesses
owned
by
people
of
color.
G
So
I'm
going
to
start
with
your
zoning
sort
of
start
from
the
the
base
and
then
we'll
build
up
so
like
most
u.s
cities,
san
jose
has
zoning
and
you
know
historically,
in
most
u.s
cities.
G
You
know
those
kinds
of
big
manufacturers
produced
waste
and
pollution
and
all
kinds
of
other
features
that
you
didn't
want
to
be
living
near
and
raising
your
kids
near
fast
forward
to
now
and
99.9
of
the
kinds
of
manufacturers
that
you
see
in
san
jose
and
frankly,
most
other
u.s
cities
are
clean.
They
are
many
of
them
smaller
scale
and
absolutely
able
to
exist
right
next
door
in
some
cases
to
residential
and
certainly
other
commercial
uses.
G
So
these
are
where
your
manufacturers
are
we're
going
to
take
a
look
into
a
few
of
these
areas.
Now
you
of
course,
a
cluster
in
north
san
jose.
That
is
very
much
consistent
with
your
zoning,
and
these
are
many
of
your
larger
next
generation
style
manufacturers
that
we
talked
about
or
clustered
in
that
area,
but
many
of
these
other
dots
are
much
smaller
manufacturers,
and
often
very
local
community,
serving
a
local
bakery,
for
example,
could
be
considered
a
manufacturer
if
they
wholesale,
as
well
as
retail,
into
the
community.
G
Let's
keep
going
your
industrial
space
is
also
in
high
demand,
and
you
know
my
preamble,
your
vacancy
rate,
was
at
three
percent
or
less
my
bet
is
it's
probably
not
changed
very
much
since
then.
You
know
what
we've
found
again
in
the
cities
in
which
we're
working
is
that,
because
you
really
can't
run
an
industrial
business
from
home
once
those
kinds
of
businesses
were
allowed
to
safely
operate
again,
most
able
to
start
up
and
reoccupy
their
space.
G
So,
in
many
ways,
speaking
with
commercial
brokers,
industrial
space
is
probably
one
of
the
more
robust
kinds
of
commercial
spaces
that
is
going
to
be
in
demand.
Next,
let's
keep
going
so
here's
a
quick
look
into
some
of
your
clusters
and
I'm
going
to
give
props
out
to
bay
area
economics
plus
and
produce
these
awesome
heats.
G
This
is
really
looking
at
employment
density
mapped
across
a
number
of
different,
we'll
call
them
neighborhoods
or
areas
in
san
jose
and
you'll
see
this
cluster
map
is
really
looking
at
these
larger
next
generation
manufacturers
and
they
are
heavily
clustered
up
in
north
san
jose,
which
is
also
where
the
majority
of
your
larger
scale,
industrial
areas
are,
and
it's
also
very
well
transit,
served
we're
going
to
talk
about
it
in
a
minute.
G
G
G
Next,
so
I
wanted
to
raise,
as
we
did
last
the
notion
as
you
about
protecting
the
areas
where
these
vital
manufacturers
are
both
the
larger
next
generation
as
well
as
these
smaller
family-owned
legacy
manufacturers.
G
Next,
this
is
a
deeper
dive
into
the
monterey
area,
but
it
gives
you
a
pretty
good
idea
of
how
you
know.
It's
really
block
by
block
that
you
have
clusters
of
some
manufacturers,
some
neighborhood
commercial,
serving
business
and
housing
next,
and
this
is
another
view
of
monterey
corridor
showing
transit
access.
G
So,
let's,
let's
talk
for
a
minute
about
transit
access,
so
you
know,
I
think
all
of
our
communities
in
the
bay
area
have
been
very
focused
on
transit,
oriented
development
and
on
reducing
vehicle
trips
and
all
the
other
things.
G
I
know
we've
been
doing
in
san
jose
and
other
cities
to
try
to
get
people
out
of
their
cars,
and
so
when
we
developed
these
maps,
we
were
really
excited
about
the
fact
that
many
of
these
areas,
unlike
many
cities
in
your
city,
many
of
these
industrial
areas
are
well
served
by
transit
and
that
has
proven
to
be
really
important.
Historically,
both
provide
more
access
for
communities
of
need
into
those
jobs
and
also
it's
proven
in
the
past,
to
be
an
amenity
even
to
higher
wage,
highly
skilled
workers.
G
When
manufacturers
have
chosen
where
to
locate,
I
know
with
the
pandemic
that
there
has
been
a
real
assault
on
using
public
transit
in
most
of
our
communities.
People
are
are
afraid,
and
so
we've
certainly
seen
transit
ridership
drop.
G
We
do
not
think
that
is
going
to
be
a
permanent
state
of
affairs.
We
recognize
right
now
at
this
moment
in
time
that
transit
is
down,
but
you
know
we
will
come
through
this
on
the
other
side
and
I
would
still
recommend,
as
you
think,
about
protecting
your
spaces
that
you
pay
special
attention
to
these
richly
transit
served
areas
again
where
you
have
manufacturing
and
residential
areas
right
next
to
each
other.
Next,.
G
G
G
You
know
the
main
place
where
you'll
want
to
think
about
modernization
over
time
is
a
lot
of
these.
Smaller
manufacturers
need
smaller
spaces
and,
like
many
cities
that
had
really
large
manufacturing
buildings,
the
need
to
be
able
to
demise
or
separate
some
of
your
larger
buildings
to
be
smaller
and
have
more
flexible
space
is
there,
but
I
would
say
you
know
again,
comparatively
to
other
older
cities.
Oakland
san
francisco,
you
have
younger
stock,
which
is
a
real
asset
to
your
city.
G
Next,
okay,
next-
and
I
think
this
is
my
last
summary
slide.
I
think
I
have
pretty
much
touched
on
everything
except
my
favorite,
which
is
the
middle
item,
so
you
know
at
the
end
of
the
day,
zoning
is
really
meant
to
do.
In
my
view,
two
things
one
is
to
sort
of
direct
your
businesses
to
where
they
might
want
to
be
to
to
be
better
and
to
have
more
access
to
the
amenities
they
need.
G
You've
definitely
had
some
incursion
into
some
of
your
industrial
areas
by
self-storage
businesses
and
boy.
Those
are
tricky
because
once
they're
in
and
once
they
grab
a
building,
it's
really
hard
to
convert
it
back
and
it
probably
doesn't
take
much
to
realize
their
job
density
as
compared
to
an
actual
industrial
user
is
pretty
slim
in
san
francisco.
We
actually
passed
an
outright
moratorium
on
self
storage
in
our
industrial
areas
after
we
also
had
a
number
of
conversions,
so
you
certainly
want
to
pay
attention
to
that.
I
think
there's
one
more
slide.
G
Nathan
is
there
the
other
one,
and
I
think
this
can
be.
You
know
important
to
think
about
is
as
you
we
come
out
of
this
pandemic
and
you
start
to
develop
again.
G
It
is
not
unreasonable
to
look
at
more
density
near
your
transit
hubs
where
there
is
already
industrial
space
we've
actually
in
san
francisco
started
to
do
at
least
a
couple
three
now
of
multi-story
industrial
buildings
again
that
can
work
near
a
transit
hub
next
slide,
and
I
think
this
is
the
last
side.
G
The
trickiest
piece
that
I'll
sort
of
end
with
is
before
the
pandemic,
and
certainly
now
the
need
also
for
housing
and
affordable
housing
has
never,
and
I
definitely
want
to
encourage
you
to
really
think
about
how
you
do
affordable
housing
in
concert
with
industrial,
but
be
careful
not
to
use
the
industrial
space
and
get
to
housing,
and
I
know
it's
really
tough
right
now
to
you
want
to
look
under
absolutely
every
stone,
but
again
the
way
I
like
to
say
it
is
the
industrial
space
you
have
provides
the
jobs
for
the
people,
we're
building
the
affordable
housing
for
and
similar
to
converting
industrial
to
self-storage.
G
Once
you
convert
industrial
to
housing,
you
can't
really
get
it
back.
So
I'm
hoping
I
can
reassure
you
that
industrial
can
really
live
right
next
door
to
housing
and
so
I'm
much
more
of
a
proponent
of
looking
at
adjacency
when
you
look
at
development
as
opposed
to
substituting
housing
for
industrial
or
vice
versa.
C
Thank
you
and
is
there
any
members
of
the
public
looks
like
mr
beekman
wants
to
comment
on
on
the
the
report.
So
we'll
go
with
mr
beekman.
A
A
Know
what
so
we're
actually
gonna
hand
it
over
now
to
michael,
so
what
I
wanted
to
do
was
following
kate's
kind
of
report
on
the
study.
I
would
like,
michael
now,
to
kind
of
bring
us
up
to
speed.
Just
briefly,
he
has
sort
of
like,
as
our
dessert
he's
going
to
share
with
us
some
of
the
things
he's
seen
over
the
last
six
months
or
so
working
with
working
with
the
sector.
H
Just
going
to
say,
I
worry
about
being
referred
to
as
dessert,
because
that
means
I
feel
it's
over
hyping.
What
I'm
about
to
talk
about,
but
cleve.
So
thank
you
all
for
inviting
me
here
today.
I
just
wanna
before
I
get
into
a
survey
that
sf
made
in
manufacture
san
jose
did
among
some
of
the
companies
that
we're
engaged
with.
H
I
wanted
to
first
talk
about
what
manufacture
san
jose
has
done
prior
to
the
pandemic
and
how
we've
pivoted,
since
so
during
2019,
manufacture
san
jose
engaged
with
around
70
companies,
with
a
focus
on
driving
needed
resources
and
technical
assistance,
as
well
as
connecting
companies
with
open
positions
to
the
nearly
60
workforce
partners
around
the
city
and
county.
H
So
now,
in
august
of
2020,
we
are
now
engaged
with
about
a
hundred
manufacturers
and
since
the
covid
pandemic
began,
manufacturing
san
jose
intensified
our
advising
services
to
ensure
that
our
manufacturers
were
armed
with
all
relevant
information
and
resources
to
allow
them
to
adapt
and
sustain
themselves
in
this
environment,
especially
around
access
to
sba
loan
instruments
like
idle
and
ppp
and,
of
course,
updated
county
social
distancing
protocols
to
ensure
that
our
manufacturers
are
operating
primarily
with
health
and
safety
of
their
production
staff
in
mind.
H
We
have
also
assisted
companies
in
diversifying
their
sales
channels
to
include
e-commerce
platforms
with
companies.
Who've
received
ppp
funding.
We
are
now
advising
them
on
ways
to
ensure
those
loans
are
forgivable
by
the
end
of
the
year
and
just
to
throw
in
one
quick,
ana
anecdote
in
here.
It's
you
know,
nathan
earlier
had
mentioned
10th
street
distillery.
It
was
the
ongoing
and
continued
partnership
between
manufacture,
san
jose.
H
The
manufacturers
were
engaged
with,
and
our
friends
at
the
oed
like
nathan,
chris
and
vic,
and
others
who
helped
10th
street
distillery,
find
the
connections
necessary
to
make
their
pivot
to
producing
sanitizer
happen.
So,
as
always,
thank
you
for
that,
in
addition,
manufacturer
san
jose
is
continuing
to
work
with
our
local
workforce
partners
to
increase
the
pipeline
of
talent
seeking
careers
in
manufacturing.
H
We
are
also
continuing
to
highlight
career
pathways
in
manufacturing
through
our
workshops,
in
partnership
with
san
jose
public
library
works.
Additionally,
we
have
continued
our
partnership
with
san
jose
works
to
connect
our
manufacturers
with
paid
interns
over
the
remainder
of
2020
in
the
first
half
of
2021..
H
Next
slide
promise,
I'm
not
going
to
say
click
so
of
the
about
80
manufacturers.
We
were
connected
with.
At
that
time,
we
received
30
respondents
to
our
survey
to
uncover
what
their
current
state
is
during
the
pandemic.
H
H
The
biggest
surprise
to
me
here
is
that
you
know
about
80
of
those
who
responded
said
they
were
actually
in
steady
to
a
growing
condition,
despite
what's
happening
on
the
ground.
Next
slide.
H
So
of
those
who
were
surveyed
and
responded,
we
had
sort
of
created
some
challenge
categories
and
using
a
scale
from
one
being
no
challenge
at
all
to
100
being
the
most
pressing
decreasing
sales
is
the
greatest
challenge
the
challenge
score.
There
was
36
versus
56
score
in
san
francisco
and,
as
you
can
see
in
some
of
these
numbers,
there
is
a
comparison
between
the
state
of
manufacturing
companies
here
versus
in
san
francisco.
H
As
far
as
access
to
capital
among
those
who
responded
only
six
million
dollars
in
reported
combined
capital
assistance,
the
majority
of
that
unsurprisingly
came
from
ppp
loans.
H
The
idle
loan
advance
and
idle
loans
took
up
the
biggest
portion
of
the
remainder,
and
then
there
were
some
companies
who
two
actually
took
out
either
a
personal
loan
or
utilized
a
line
of
credit
available
to
keep
their
company
going.
One
received
a
ten
thousand
dollar
grant
to
assist
with
you
know
some
payroll
needs
and
other
things
as
well
next
slide.
So
as
far
as
workforce
and
revenue,
everyone
who
responded
so
there's
you're
gonna
see
two
things
here.
H
One
is
a
slide
that
is
a
snapshot
of
everyone
who
responded.
The
next
will
actually
do
a
snapshot
of
those
who
are
under
2
million
in
revenue.
So,
as
you
can
see,
there
hasn't
been
much
of
a
reduction
in
full-time
head
headcount
at
these
companies
and
driven
solely
by
really
one
company.
H
They
saw
a
58
growth
in
part-time
staff
based
on
that
company
and
then
two
other
larger
companies.
Overall
revenue
is
up
among
the
respondents
by
25
next
slides
so
for
companies
under
two
million.
The
story
is
a
little
bit
different.
H
H
Part-Time
growth,
as
I
mentioned,
is
really
driven
by
consumer
product
companies
and
where
it
took
the
biggest
hit,
was,
for
example,
with
the
local
breweries,
because
they
were
forced
to
close
their
tap
rooms
and
really
focus
on
production
solely.
H
The
other
thing
I
would
say,
and
the
bright
spot
to
all
of
this
on
the
workforce
side,
is
every
single
company
that
we
surveyed
and
responded
said
that
they
were
planning
to
hire
by
the
end
of
the
year.
So
there
is
still
a
confidence
among
manufacturers
that
they
will
be
able
to
continue
a
track
toward
growth
by
the
end
of
this
year.
H
So
some
trends
and
findings
among
the
30
respondents
only
seven
had
received
rental
assistance
in
some
cases
because
it
wasn't
necessary
and
they
didn't
ask
for
it.
In
some
cases,
the
landlords
landlord's
property
managers
that
they
have
been
working
with,
weren't
really
willing
to
negotiate
consumer
product
manufacturing
continues
to
pivot
to
online
curbside
sales
and
companies
with
established
e-commerce
sales
channels
are
thriving.
H
So
that's
the
one
big
takeaway
that
I've
noticed,
especially
among
the
consumer
product
manufacturers,
is
those
that
had
established
e-commerce
channels
and
were
marketing
very
well
through
either
their
website
or
social
media
are
not
only
doing
well.
They're
thriving
the
real
key
for
those
that
haven't
been
or
have
been
a
little
bit
behind
is
to
pivot
as
quickly
as
possible
and
market
themselves,
as
well
as
possible
to
pick
up
the
pace
and
be
able
to
catch
up
with
the
rest
next
slide.
H
C
All
right
now
we'll
go
to
public
comment.
Mr
beekman
has
his
hands
up
on
the
the
report
we
just
heard
on
industrial
lands.
F
Hi,
thank
you.
The
first
woman
speaker,
the
second
woman
speaker.
She
nicely
mentioned
the
idea
of
how
a
tech
can
try
to
hire
people
in
the
low
part
of
a
company
and
and
ways
that
they
can
move
up
within
the
company,
and
that
was
nice
to
hear
if,
if
you're
gonna
actually
try
to
promote
that
sort
of
philosophy
in
san
jose
and
with
what
may
be
the
future
of
google
in
san
jose,
that's
fairly
vital.
You
know
how
I
mean.
That's
just
a
simple
premise.
F
You
know
time-tested
premise
that
I
hope
that
google
will
want
to
follow
and
you
know,
but
I
heard
that
that
that's
not
happening
as
much
as
it
used
to,
and
I
guess
that
makes
an
important
responsibility
in
san
jose
how
to
continue
that
sort
of
tradition.
F
I
wanted
to
quickly
mention
that,
even
though
these
are
industrial
land
ideas,
you
know
there's
still
a
own
and
tenor
relationship
with
with
the
buildings
and
the
real
estate
and
that
you
know
the
the
measures
of
ab1436,
which
is
you
know,
supposed
to
give
rent
forgiveness
ideas
in
this
time
of
covid
to
both
owners
and
tenants
and
not
just
works
for,
say,
apartment
buildings,
but
it
works
for
small
businesses
as
well,
and
it's
really
interesting
work
that
I
I
recommend.
F
Even
this
sort
of
group
looks
into
just
to
get
ideas.
How
you
know
different
parts
of
the
real
estate
economy
is
working,
and
I
think
it
presents
a
really
interesting
idea
how
to
address
our
future
and
it's
a
way
to
be
non-combative
and
for
all
parties
to
be
satisfied,
all
sides
and
that's
quite
an
accomplishment,
and
I
hope
we
keep
those
doors
open
to
1436
and
all
of
our
thinking.
Thank
you.
C
All
right
on
back
to
council
discussion,
let
me
kick
off.
The
discussion
by
asking
are:
are:
is
manufacturing
san
jose
working
with
work
to
future.
I
know
that
sounds
like
there
is
some
hiring
being
done
in
the
manufacturing
sector,
and
I
wanted
you
to
discuss
some.
You
know
I
we
heard
some
really
scary
unemployment
numbers
and
I've
been
watching
unemployment
lately,
and
so
I
just
want
to
see
if,
if
manufacturing
san
jose
is
working
on
training
or
retraining,
folks
to
to
into
the
manufacturing
sectors,.
H
Yeah,
the
the
quick
answer
to
that
is
yes
and
we've,
even
prior
to
my
arrival
in
june
of
2018
manufacture,
san
jose
was
partnered
with
work
to
future
very
early
on.
Initially
it
was
more
around
the
conversation
of
getting
companies
together
to
create
a
sort
of
unified
guideline
to
both
recruiting
and
you
know,
creating
or
highlighting
career
pathways
in
manufacturing.
H
We
are
now
actually
partnered
around
this
current
bridge
to
recovery
program
through
catholic
charities
and
some
other
organizations
to
really
pool
our
resources
and
find
ways
to
not
only
highlight
careers
in
manufacturing,
but
in
other
sectors
and
to
help
those
who've
been
displaced
because
of
kovidge
find
career
pathways
and
sort
of
pivot,
career
pathways
into
manufacturing
and
other
sectors.
C
All
right,
thank
you
and
I'm
glad
you're
working
with
work
to
future.
They
do
some
great
work
for
our
community
and
thanks
for
the
dessert,
I
hope
it
was
good
for
everybody.
C
Well,
it's
it's!
You
know
it
is
a
little
bit
different
than
I
would
say
retail
from
from
when
I
I
know
that
our
retail
numbers
are
going
in
a
different
direction
altogether,
which
leads
me
to
my
next
questions.
You
know,
there's
there's
going
to
be,
I
think,
a
lot
of
retail
space
open.
Is
there
a
way
to
repurpose,
say
retail
and
to
at
least
light
commercial.
H
Well
and
keith
sofis
could
maybe
answer
that
in
terms
of
how
san
francisco
is
done
and
how
some
san
francisco
manufacturers
have
been
able
to
operate
because
a
lot
of
them
do
have
these
sort
of
combined
spaces
where
they're
manufacturing
in
the
back
and
have
a
small
retail
sec
section
in
the
front.
But
kate,
just
texted
me
and
told
me
your
internet
is
down,
so
I
can
have
her
respond
to
you
as
more
or
with
more
detail
on
that.
Certainly.
A
In
looking
at
some
of
the
jcpenney
closures
to
facilitate
sort
of
more
last
mile
hubs
closer
to
populations,
we
haven't
seen
anyone
kind
of
propose
that
yet
for
any
of
our
big
boxes
in
san
jose,
you
know,
we've
been
to
be
honest
with
you,
and
this
is
not
me
being
my
normal
pollyanna
self.
We've
really
been
privileged
to
see
some
backfilling
of
those
box
vacancies
that
we
had
kind
of
pre,
at
least
pre-covered,
and
so
a
lot
of
our,
for
instance.
A
Our
osh
spaces
have
now
been
backfilled
by
by
other
retailers,
but
I
think
we
will
continue
to
see
this
march
where
retailers
are
are
going
to
be
adding
more
fulfillment
type
of
operations
in
their
in
their
stores
and
kind
of
that
merging
right
I
mean
I
just
went
to
kohl's
this
weekend
to
return
some
stuff
from
amazon
and
you're,
seeing
that
distribution
function,
kind
of
take
on
more
and
more
of
a
role
in
the
store
now.
C
Yeah
I'm
like
like
we
did
get,
or
was
it
outdoor
supply
instead
of
orchard,
and
and
you
know
we
got
ashley
furniture
and
living
spaces,
but
all
the
gyms
are
going
away
for
that
matter.
You
know
and
that's
so
I
think
we
need
to
keep
an
eye
on
on
that
yeah.
I
will
let
I
will
now
go
to
maya
esparza.
If
you
want
to
unmute
yourself
thanks.
D
I
so
I
had.
I
wanted
to
start
off
with
just
a
question:
will
we
be
building
on
this
study
if
we
get
the
federal
grant
and
kind
of
do
do
some
further
study?
Is
that
going
to
build
on
this.
A
I
can
take
a
crack,
I
mean
okay,
so
within
the
grant
application,
there
was
nothing
that
we
had
necessarily
proposed
in
terms
of
directly
kind
of
a
part
two.
There
was
the
kind
of
study
work
that
we
really
want
to
do
within
the
economic
development
association
grant
proposal
is
around
how
how
could
opportunity
zones
be
used
to
support
manufacturers
and
actually
other
businesses.
A
Startup
businesses
as
well,
but
particularly
manufacturers,
from
sort
of
a
access
to
capital
standpoint
and
a
equity
investing
standpoint,
and
so
from
that
perspective
kind
of
the
the
steady
work
we're
looking
at
is
more
around
building
models
for
investment
in
in
industrial
zone
in
industrial
opportunity
zones,
of
which
we
have
quite
a
few.
B
Hey
councilmember
just
add
just
quickly
on
what
nathan
was
saying.
You
know
really
the
focus
in
the
eda
grand
as
far
as
the
partnership
with
manufacture
san
jose.
It's
really
about
delivery
of
service.
So
it's
intended
to
kind
of
focus
their
efforts
and
kind
of
provide
more
support
to
local
manufacturers
throughout
those
areas
that
we
think
there's
an
opportunity
to
continue
to
build.
You
know
things
like.
I
think.
D
Thank
you
yeah.
I
mean
I.
I
think
we
need
to
use
that
study
to
if
we
get
that
federal
grant
to
kind
of
really
be
smart
about
how
we
use
opportunity
zones,
there's
so
much
literature
about
all
the
pitfalls
nationwide,
and
obviously
we
don't
want
that
here,
but
in
looking
at
the
studies
recommendations
I
just
speaking
from
the
work
of
the
monterey
corridor
working
group
where
we
looked
at
the
monterey
corridor,
the
land
has
actually
changed
hands
very
little.
D
D
Manufacturing
businesses,
they
haven't,
you
know,
invested
in
their
facilities
in
a
very
long
time,
if
ever
and
so
so,
there's
that
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
variance
along
that
corridor,
and
so
I
agree,
I
think
we
need
to
find
a
way
for
for
that
access
to
capital
to
really
improve
the
manufacturing
infrastructure
for
what
we
have
right
now,
and
I
wanted
to
comment
on
a
couple
of
things.
D
D
That
was
one
of
the
things
that
really
came
out
of
we
discussed
in
the
monterey
corridor.
Working
group
is
that
you
know
that's
such
a
in
the
monterey
corridor.
D
It's
such
a
patchwork
of
zoning
right
now
and
then
and
then,
how
can
we
as
a
city
sort
of
support
zoning
uses
moving
forward
so
that
developers
can
put
together
a
parcel
to
really
bring
in
the
kind
of
manufacturing
or
support
kind
of
manufacturing
that
we
want
to
encourage
as
a
city,
and
I
think
that's
a
more
complicated
question
and
it
has
a
lot
of
nuance
within
it,
and
so
that's
one
of
the
things
I'm
hoping
that
we
can
also
look
at
in
the
opportunity
zones,
because
if
it
does
bring
in
investment,
I
you
know
again
looking
at
what's
been
done
in
other
cities.
D
I
think
that's
something
that
we
should
look
at
and
and
that's
it.
So
thank
you.
F
C
All
right,
I
want
to
thank
staff
for
their
very
thorough
and
report
and
all
in
favor.
F
C
Aye
aye,
we
have
to
take
a
roll.
Do
we
have
to
take
one
the
vote
one
by
one.
C
All
right
next
on
the
agenda
that
I
have
in
front
of
me
is
open
forum.
If
I'm
not
mistaken,
yeah
okay
are
there
any
looks
like
we
do
have
a
speaker
from
the
public
on
open
forum,
where
beekman.
F
F
I
guess
just
to
go
over
coveted
issues.
My
two
big
covet
issues,
I'm
going
to
talk
about,
I
think,
all
through
september,
are
the
ideas
of
housing
and
the
economy
itself,
and
you
know
I'm
really
excited
of
the
work
that
I
think
ash
kara
is
a
part
of
with
ab1436
many
assembly.
Persons
of
the
bay
area
are
part
of
these
housing
measures
that
you
know.
F
I
just
need
to
really
say
each
week
now
that
are
really
meant
to
help
both
tenants
and
owners,
and
they
can
give
owners
a
lot
of
support,
so
owners
do
not
have
to
sue
their
tenants
anymore
and
go
after
their
their
tenants
and
feel
their
tenants
that
are
guilty
and
need
to
pay
up
and
all
that
stuff.
F
And
it's
you
know
that
that
that
there's
a
lot
of
miscommunication
in
that
process-
and
you
know
ab
1436-
is
really
a
way
to
clear
everything
up,
and
I
hope
the
owners
can
really
take
a
look
at
it
and
will
keep
them
from
from
attacking
and
wanting
to
feel
their
old
things
when
it's
really
really
being
worked
out,
and
I
hope
that
the
city
government
of
san
jose
really
makes
the
effort
to
explain
what
the
the
choices
that
are
possible
and
and
what's
always,
can
be
open
for
us
during
this
time.
F
With
that
said,
oh,
and
to
also
mention
1436,
you
know
it
has
a
two-year,
I
think,
maybe
one
year
two
year,
rent
forgiveness
at
this
time,
always
leave
that
door
open.
It
may
need
more
than
one
or
two
years
it
may
need
up
to
five
or
ten
years.
Don't
be
afraid
of
that
be
open
to
that
idea.
With
my
remaining
20
seconds,
I
I
want
to
be
able
to
talk
about
the
economy
as
frightful
as
this
time
is.