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From YouTube: MAR 24, 2021 | Planning Commission
Description
City of San José, California
Planning Commission meeting of March 24, 2021.
This public meeting will be conducted via Zoom Webinar. For information on public participation via Zoom, please refer to the linked meeting agenda below.
Agenda https://sanjose.legistar.com/View.ashx?M=A&ID=851535&GUID=6C1B7D77-99CA-4A1B-B87E-FB494A50B688
A
And
I
am
the
chair
of
the
planning
commission.
Thank
you
for
joining
us
this
evening.
At
this
time,
I
would
like
to
ask
the
staff
to
play
the
video
explaining
how
we
will
use
the
zoom
translation
services
for
this
meeting.
We
will
play
this
video
again
before
each
major
item
on
the
agenda,
understanding
that
members
of
the
community
may
join
the
meeting
later.
A
This
information
again,
we
appreciate
everyone's
patience
as
we
work
through
to
ensure
that
all
members
of
the
public
can
understand
the
actions
that
the
planning
commission
is
taking
today,
as
well
as
ensuring
that
we
have
an
opportunity
here
to
hear
from
the
public
related
to
these
decisions.
So
at
this
time,
if
we
could,
please
have
the
video.
A
C
D
D
A
So
good
evening
again
my
name
is
mariel
cavallero
and
I
am
the
chair
of
the
planning
commission.
Welcome
to
our
planning
commission
meeting
for
march
24th
2021.
This
meeting
is
being
held
via
zoom
conference
call
due
to
the
covid19
crisis.
Members
of
the
public
may
participate
by
following
the
instructions
listed
on
the
agenda.
A
You
may
also
view
and
listen
to
the
meeting
on
live
stream,
cable,
granicus
and
youtube.
If
you
would
like
to
provide
public
comment,
you
have
two
methods
to
identify
yourself
to
provide
public
comments.
All
members
of
the
public
will
remain
on
mute
until
the
ident
individual
identifies
they
would
like
to
speak
and
you
are
unmuted
following
roll
call.
During
the
summary
of
hearing
procedure,
we
will
review
how
the
public
may
provide
comment
during
today's
session.
E
F
A
A
A
You
must
identify
your
name
phone
number
and
what
items
you
would
like
to
speak
on.
If
you
call
the
phone
number
or
email
the
staff,
as
your
name
is
called
city
staff,
will
unmute
you
to
speak
after
we
confirm
your
audio
is
working.
Your
time
will
begin.
Each
speaker
will
have
two
minutes.
Speakers
using
a
translator
will
have
four
minutes.
A
After
the
public
testimony,
the
applicant
and
appellant
may
make
closing
remarks
for
an
additional
five
minutes
planning
commissioners
may
ask
questions
of
the
speakers.
Response
to
commissioner's
questions
will
not
reduce
your
time.
Allowance
staff
will
unmute
the
speaker
to
respond
to
the
commissioner.
A
A
A
A
A
If
you
choose
to
speak
now,
and
your
comments
are
related
to
an
item
on
the
agenda,
you
will
not
be
given
the
opportunity
to
speak
again.
When
the
commission
considers
the
agenda
item
throughout
the
meeting,
we
will
be
asking
each
group
needing
translation
to
raise
their
hair,
so
we
can
identify
those
needing
translation
services
prior
to
the
public
comment
period.
A
A
H
H
Okay,
I'll
go
back
to
them.
It
looks
like
they're
having
some
issues.
George,
you
are
unmuted,
go
ahead
and
mute.
H
E
Hi,
yes,
can
you
guys
hear
me
we
can
hear
you
okay?
Yes,
I'm
just
concerned
about
the
new
planning
commission
like
what
we're
what
are.
Is
there
plans
to
possibly
move
the
flea
market
to
a
newer
location,
because
we
do
understand
that
this
is
a
legacy
of
san
jose
tradition.
They
have
a
lot
of
undocumented
friends
who
vendor.
E
Just
hope
like,
if
there's
a
second
way
to
place
this
new
place
in
another
location
if
we
are
building
new
homes
here,
which
I
understand
is
important,
because
the
bayer
housing
market.
So
I
was
wondering
if
there's
any
new
plans
for.
A
That
does
that
conclude.
Your
public
comment.
Yes,
okay,
and
just
so
you
know
that
item
is
actually
item
8a
and
8b
on
the
agenda,
and
so
since
you've
spoken
now,
you
will
not
be
allowed
to
give
public
comment
again
when
the
when
those
items
come
up.
So
we've
we've
heard
your
comment.
Thank
you
very
much.
Commissioners,
don't
respond
to
those
comments
at
this
time.
H
Okay,
george
has
raised
his
hand
again.
George,
you
are.
I
E
Yeah
so
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
ask
one
of
our
interpreters
to
go
ahead
and
translate
this.
A
Yes,
so
items
related
to
the
flea
market
are
items
a
a
and
8
b.
A
G
All
right,
I
actually
regarding
the
8ab
thing,
so
are
comments
about
the
future
of
the
flea
market,
acceptable
on
either
agenda
item.
I
think
we
should
just
clarify
that
for
folks
here.
A
Sure
so
I
guess
at
this
time,
even
though
we're
gonna
handle
our
other
agenda
items,
we'll
go
ahead
and
talk
a
little
bit
about
how
we're
going
to
do
this
today.
A
So
all
public
comment
related
to
the
flea
market,
the
barriers
of
bart
urban
village
and
the
rezoning
will
be
heard
at
one
time
during
items
8a
and
8b,
there
will
be
a
staff
presentation
and
an
applicant
presentation.
A
A
We
want
to
remind
everyone
that,
if
you're
doing
translation
to
pause
and
the
commissioners
can
get
the
translation
from
our
translators
in
english,
so,
additionally,
after
public
comment,
the
commission
will
be
able
to
ask
questions
of
the
staff
and
of
the
applicant
and
to
make.
A
To
make
a
decision
so
at
this
point.
A
We're
gonna
go
ahead
and
play
the
translation
video
one
more
time,
because
we've
actually
had
quite
a
number
of
people
join
since
we
played
it-
and
I
just
asked
our
commissioners
and
our
staff
to
bear
with
us.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
everybody
is
getting
the
translation
services
that
they
need
and
that
they
understand
how
to
get
those.
So
let's
go
ahead
and
watch
the
video
one
more
time
in
the
three
languages
and
then
I
will
move
on
from
public
comment
to
our
next
agenda
item.
G
G
C
D
A
A
Again,
if
you
would
like
to
sleep,
okay,
great,
I'm
starting
to
see
some
hands
go
down.
If
you
would
like
to
speak
on
the
flea
market
item,
please
lower
your
hand,
and
you
will
be
heard
you'll
be
asked
to
raise
your
hand
later
on
in
the
agenda
when
it's
time
for
that.
A
All
right,
so
it
looks
like
we
have
three
hands
up.
We
know
that
mr
rosales
wants
to
speak
on
the
flea
market
items.
We've
got
three
other
hands
up.
We
will
take
public
comment
at
this
time.
J
Hello,
can
you
hear
me
we
can
hear
you
hi.
I
just
had
a
question:
how
can
we
access
this
zoom
call
further
on.
H
Yeah,
do
you
mean,
like
the
meeting
the
recording
of
everything
today?
Yes
correct,
it
will
be
posted
on
our
website
under
appointments
youtube
as
well
as
youtube.
I
guess.
A
H
Okay,
hector:
you
are
unmuted,
go
ahead
and
meet
yourself
and
begin
to
speak.
D
K
I
went
from
the
flea
market
to
work
in
radio
and
lots
of
communication
lots
of
forms
of
media
where
radio
and
tv
were
observing
me,
and
I
was
one
of
the
vendors
who
would
yell
and
promote
all
the
items
that
we
were
selling
at
the
flea
market.
I
ended
up
working
for
a
company,
an
international
company
as
a
administrative
assistant
for
the
ceo
of
the
corporation.
K
D
K
A
B
H
Hello,
sorry,
chair,
caballero,
rich.
We
were
supposed
to
interpret
the
comment
that
was
said
in
spanish
in
english.
In
the
main.
K
K
Roger
that,
let's
go
ahead
and
do
that
well,
the
flea
market
happens
to
be
one
of
the
very
first
places.
K
Actually
the
first
place
that
I
got
a
job
when
I
first
came
to
this
country
and
while
I
was
at
the
flea
market,
a
lot
of
people
on
radio
and
tv
noticed
that
I
was
one
of
the
people
that
would
yell
out
all
the
items
that
we
were
selling
there
at
the
flea
market,
and
I
would
you
know,
advertise
them
by
yelling
out
what
we
had
for
sale
and
that
you
know
they
took
notice,
and
I
ended
up
working
for
tv
working
for
radio
and
then
shortly
after
that,
I
ended
up
working
as
an
administrative
assistant
for
the
ceo
of
an
international
company,
and
it's
all
due
to
the
fact
that
I
got
my
start
there
at
the
flea
market.
K
And
so
what
I
want
to
do,
or
what
I
would
like
is
for
you
all
to
find
a
way
to
relocate
all
these
businesses
somewhere.
That
way,
somebody
can
have
the
opportunity
that
I
had,
because
there's
adolescents
who
have
their
first
jobs
there
all
the
time
and
that
way
they.
You
know
they're
able
to
build
relationships
of
from
all
types
of
aspects
and
they
get
to
meet
new
people,
new
cultures,
and
it
just
gives
them
a
great
opportunity.
L
Thank
you
chair.
I
think
when
people
are
making
comments
at
the
public
comment
for
items
that
are
on
the
agenda,
it's
pretty
quick
when
we
recognize
that
it's
actually
on
the
agenda,
and
I
would
simply
just
offer
the
suggestion
if
the
next
speaker
is
going
to
talk
about
the
flea
market,
that,
instead
of
letting
them
go
the
two
minutes,
could
we
just
stop
them,
so
we
could
get
on
with
the
start.
You
know
the
agenda
order,
that's
just
the
suggestion.
A
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Oliverio
duly
noted,
I'm
going
to
ask
vera
if
we're.
If
we
can
take
that
right.
N
Excuse
me,
I
needed
to
unmute,
so
the
route
was
to
just
shorten
everything
to
one
minute.
Shorten
public
comment,
one
minute:
no,
the.
A
Route
is
to
stop
people
and
wait
until
the
item.
N
You
may
do
that
assuming
that
they're
speaking
on
the
flea
market
or
bvuv,
if
they're
speaking
on
another
item,
you
need
to
figure
out,
are
they
speaking
on
another
item
that
is
appropriate
for
public
comment
on
items
not
on
the
agenda?
Okay,.
A
Thank
you.
So
in
that
case,
if
folks
continue
to
speak
on
item
8a
and
8b
at
this
time,
then
we
will
go
ahead
and
start
and
ask
them
to
hold
their
comments
until
we
get
to
that
item.
We
actually
have
no
more
hands
up
at
this
time,
so
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
move
us
forward
on
the
agenda
to
item
number
three,
which
is
deferrals
and
removals
from
the
calendar.
There
are
no
items,
and
this
is
item
number
four-
is
the
consent
calendar
again?
There
are
no
items.
H
A
Is
public
hearing
and
if
I
5a
is
h19-033,
which
is
a
site
development
permit
to
allow
the
construction
of
a
18
story,
commercial
building
with
approximately
12
771
square
feet
of
commercial
retail
and
approximately
4
482
000
26
square
feet
of
commercial
office,
an
alternative
parking
arrangement
and
a
downtime
downtown
design
guideline
exception
on
an
approximately
1.5
gross
acre
site
at
the
northeast
corner
of
the
south
market
street
and
east
san
carlos
street,
I'm
in
council
district
three.
O
Great
thank
you
good
evening,
chair
and
commissioners.
My
name
is
stephanie
farmer.
Project
manager,
with
the
planning
division
before
you
this
evening
is
a
resolution
certifying
the
supplemental
eir
to
the
downtown
strategy,
2040
environmental
impact
report
and
the
mitigation
monitoring
and
reporting
plan
in
accordance
with
seqa
and
a
resolution
for
the
for
a
site
development
permit.
As
the
chair
described
previously,
the
project
is
located
in
downtown
at
282
south
market
street.
The
site
has
a
land
use
designation
of
downtown,
which
supports
a
wide
range
of
commercial
uses,
including
retail
sales
and
services
and
offices.
O
The
project
conforms
with
all
applicable
development
standards
for
the
downtown
primary
commercial
zoning
district.
As
previously
stated,
the
project
includes
an
alternative
parking
arrangement.
This
arrangement
is
made
up
of
a
combination
of
regular
parking
spaces,
tandem,
parking
spaces
and
mechanical
parking
spaces.
O
The
applicant
has
identified
a
physical
constraint
to
meet
this
requirement.
That
does
not
impair
the
character
of
the
neighborhood
or
create
a
safety
hazard.
The
project
meets
the
standard
to
the
extent
physically
feasible
and
meets
all
other
guidelines
and
therefore
is
consistent
with
the
downtown
design
guidelines.
O
O
This
project
is
substantially
compatible
with
the
surrounding
historic
properties.
The
project
is
also
consistent
with
the
city
council
policy
6-30
for
public
outreach.
A
joint
community
meeting
and
environmental
scoping
meeting
was
held
at
the
dr
martin
luther
king
jr
library
on
march
5th
2020,
an
on-site
sign
was
posted
on
the
project
frontage.
O
O
O
Comments
were
in
regards
to
bus,
stop
and
public
transit
improvements,
as
well
as
groundwater
staff
has
prepared
formal
responses
to
comments
as
part
of
the
first
amendment
to
the
eir,
the
comments
did
not
result
in
new
impacts
or
a
recirculation
of
the
eir,
and
all
documents
are
available
on
the
project
webpage.
O
B
Can
you
hear
me
yes,
yeah,
so
rob
tercini
of
the
sobrato
organization
was
supposed
to
be
brought
into
the
panel
to
begin
our
presentation.
L
H
P
Before
we
start
chairwoman,
cavallo
has
been
kicked
off
of
her
zoom,
so
just
wanted
to
say
that.
P
Q
L
Can
you
all
hear
me?
Yes,
great
all
right.
Thank
you
good
evening
check
out
by
your
own
commissioners.
My
name
is
rob
tercini
and
I
am
on
the
development
team
for
the
soberado
organization
as
the
owner
and
applicant
for
the
project
in
front
of
you
this
evening,
as
many
years
after
many
years
of
owning
this
site,
we
are
excited
to
be
here
and
look
forward
to
bringing
this
unique
and
high
quality
asset
to
the
downtown
core.
L
I
want
to
take
a
moment
to
thank
staff
for
all
their
hard
work
over
the
last
couple
of
years
to
help
bring
us
in
front
of
you
tonight.
I'd
also
like
to
take
a
moment
and
introduce
my
team
on
the
call
with
me
this
evening.
I
have
michael
o'boyle
and
claire
imatini
with
arc
tectonica,
the
architect
for
the
project,
niktarius
mathea,
with
kieran
wright,
the
civil
engineer,
nick
samuelson,
with
the
pizzardo
partnership
on
the
landscape
team
and
eric
shane
howard
with
the
shane
hour
company.
L
With
that,
I
want
to
turn
it
over
to
michael
to
give
a
brief
presentation
and
overview
of
the
project.
L
And
hopefully
you
guys
have
michael
on
the
panel
where
you
can
let
him
speak
and
share
his
screen.
R
R
D
R
Yes,
so
is
that
there
we
go
perfect
again
to
reiterate
what
rob
shared.
Thank
you
all
for
your
time
today
and
for
allowing
us
to
present
this
project,
which
we've
been
working
on
for
quite
a
while,
and
you
know
considering
the
significant
location
at
the
corner
of
south
market
and
west
san
carlo
street
next
side.
Please.
R
So
you
know
here
you
have
a
plan
diagram
which
just
shows
the
proposed
footprint
of
the
project,
its
relationship
to
the
cesar
chavez
park,
the
surrounding
context,
which
includes
the
fairmont,
the
westin,
the
montgomery
hotels,
the
site,
offers
a
fair
amount
of
access
to
various
transportation
and
pedestrian
thoroughfares,
and
it
has
frontages
along
west
san
carlos
street
and
south
first
street,
which
are
readily
accessed
by
bus
or
light
rail
next
slide.
Please.
R
R
With
exception
to
the
office
lobbies
which
are
shown
in
purple.
There
are
two
pedestrian
entries
for
the
office.
One
is
shown
centered
on
south
market
street
facade
and
then
the
other
is
around
the
corner.
It's
centered
on
the
facade
to
the
right
at
west,
san
carlo
street.
The
parking
is
above
grade.
It's
it's
shown
immediately
above
that
first
level
in
light
blue
the
office
space
is
immediately
above
that
parking
shown
in
a
darker
shade
of
blue,
and
then
we
have
outdoor
sky
gardens
in
green
at
the
top
of
the
building.
R
You
know
there
are
other
buildings
in
proximity
that
also
have
similar
features.
You
could
see
the
planted
roof
terraces
at
varying
heights.
We
can
also
see
the
that
you
know,
as
we
continue
to
develop
the
design
of
the
tower.
We
learned
that
articulating
the
building
from
one
large
volume
into
four
distinct
forms.
R
R
We
made
a
concerted
effort
to
put
the
back
of
house
spaces
to
the
north
and
central,
where
they're,
concealed
from
view
the
majority
of
the
you
know
ground
floor
spaces
are
commercial
with
ex
that
street
front
that
are
fronting
on
the
street.
With
exception
to
the
lobby,
which
is
purple,
you
can
see
there
vehicular
entries
to
the
north
off
of
south
market
street
and
then
off
of
south
first
street.
We
have
the
loading
entry.
R
R
So,
as
the
project
design
evolved,
we
worked
closely
with
staff,
a
historic
preservationist,
the
historic
landmarks
commission,
the
preservation
action
council
and
others,
and
you
know,
with
their
input
and
through
a
very
open,
back
and
forth
dialogue.
We
arrived
at
this
base
detailing
that
we
mentioned
earlier,
and
you
could
see
the
ground
level
elevation
here
on
market
street,
with
the
saint
clair
across
across
the
way
there
you
could
see
the
shingle
glass
facade
how
it
drapes
over.
R
You
know
this
g,
you
know
this
more
orthogonal,
geometric
form
of
the
base
and
you
can
see
textured
precast,
which
again
is
intended
to
be
reminiscent
of
the
more
historical
buildings
in
the
context.
Next
slide.
Please.
H
Hey
sorry,
it
looks
like
the
time
is
up
five
minutes.
A
Okay,
why
don't
we
wait
for
your
closing
you'll
have
another
five
minutes
for
clothing.
R
Thank
you
very
much.
I
apologize
for
that,
so
this
is
a
rendering
of
that
corner,
showing
the
draped
facade
at
the
corner
next
slide.
Please.
A
A
If
you
are
speaking,
if
you
start
to
speak
during
public
comment
and
it's
not
related
to
this
item,
we
will
be
going
ahead
and
muting
your
microphone
and
asking
you
to
wait
until
the
next
item.
So
at
this
time,
if
we
have
a
speaker
for
this
item,
only
please
raise
your
hands.
H
Okay,
all
right:
okay,
ingrid,
you
are
unmuted,
go
ahead
and
unmute
yourself
and
begin
to.
H
A
S
S
S
We
feel
that
this
project
will
be
a
great
addition
to
the
downtown
core,
provide
space
for
jobs,
active
storefronts
for
retail
and
bring
you
know
a
huge
kind
of
addition
to
our
skyline
that
we're
really
looking
forward
to
seeing.
We
appreciate
the
sobrato
company
bringing
this
forward
and
working
with
us
to
present
it
to
our
committee,
and
we
express
our
full
support
and
we
thank
everyone
this
evening
for
their
time.
H
Okay,
gabby,
you
are
unmuted,
go
ahead
and
mute
yourself
and
begin
to
speak
good
evening.
Funding,
commission
and
sobrano
team.
I
just
had
a
question
downtown
seems
to
have
you
know
a
huge
issue
with
vacant
store
fronts
and
vacant
retail,
and
I
wanted
to
you
know:
ask
if
the
sobrato
team
will
be
proactive
in
selecting
a
tenant
that
will
be
an
asset
to
the
downtown.
H
E
Sorry,
hello,
we
can
hear
you
hi
thanks
everybody
for
coming
together
and
allowing
us
to
kind
of
share
space
about
what's
going
on
in
these
new
developments,
so
yeah.
So
just
a
brief
background.
I
am
a
resident
of
san
jose
and
I've
been
living
here,
practically
all
my
life,
basically
really,
and
so
I'm
hearing
all
these
new
ideas
and
I've
actually
I'm
kind
of
new
to
this
hearing
about
these
ideas.
E
Actually
I
heard
learned
from
social
media
about
the
changes
going
on
and
taking
effect
to
the
flea
market,
which
I've
been
familiar
with
for
a
majority
of
my
life.
Now
I'm
21
at
the
moment,
so
I've
been
kind
of
going
since
I
was
five
or
actually
yeah,
I
mean.
A
Yeah
so
jasmine,
that's
item,
eight,
a
and
right
now
we're
on
five
a
so
we're
gonna
go
ahead
and
it's
okay.
I
have
a
lot
of
folks
are
new
to
this
process,
so
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
ask
you
to
wait
and
we'll
give
you
the
rest
of
your
minute
when
we
get
to
that
item.
So,
okay,
let's
go
ahead
and
move
on
to
the
next
people.
D
I
think
that
it's
it's
a
good
thing
that
there's
a
lot
of
development
in
san
jose
and
and
glad
to
see
that
just
that's
a
nice
building,
but
a
quick
question
for
for
the
committee.
Whoever
can
answer
it.
I
know
that
in
this
video
we
have
one
of
the
worst
homeless
problems
in
maybe
the
this
country,
and
I'm
not
sure
if
there's
any
studies
done
on
how
maybe
creating
this
this
building
and
maybe
possibly
bringing
other
jobs
and
with
that
more
luxury
housing.
D
How
that
will
affect
lower
income,
housing
and
the
I
guess
how
the
rest
of
the
population
is
is
living.
There
been
any
studies
on
that.
I
yield
the
rest
of
my
time.
H
Thank
you
monts.
You
are
unmuted.
E
Okay,
I
don't
like
the
developing.
Actually,
it
forces
out
a
lot
of
homeless
people.
They
don't
really
make
plans
on
how
to
relocate
them
or
for
them
to
actually
have
access
to
all
these
developments
are
are
classists
like
they
don't
serve
the
unhoused
community
here
in
san
jose
and
yeah.
I
just
I
don't
with
the
development
you
guys
are
doing.
E
Kind
of
adding
on
to
what
once
I
said
is
I
don't
understand,
oh
by
the
way,
my
name
is:
sarah.
I've
been
a
resident
of
san
jose
my
whole
life,
and
I
don't
really
understand
the
purpose
of
these
developments.
Right
now,
we're
going
to
the
pandemic
there's
a
ton
of
unused
office
space.
E
I
don't
understand
why
we're
using
more
of
why
we're
creating
more
office
spaces,
and
on
top
of
that
I
have
a
question
on
who
these
jobs
are
going
to
be
going
to,
because
when
we
see
projects
like
this,
they
contribute
heavily
to
gentrification,
that
don't
benefit
our
community
whatsoever
and
that's
why
a
lot
of
people
from
san
jose
had
had
to
relocate
and
move
to
the
central
valley
and
other
parts
of
california
and
even
out
of
state.
So
I
have
a
question
that
I
hope
can
be
answered
and
that's
what
is
the
plan
for
that?
E
Is
there
a
plan
to
help
residents?
Is
there
a
plan
to
keep
them
employed?
Is
there
a
plan
to
provide
them
with
access
to
higher
education
and
to
allow
them
to
have
access
to
these
jobs?
That
goes
to
everyone,
who's
on
the
team
and
who's
part
of
this.
E
Afternoon
everyone
I've
been
born
and
raised
here
in
san
jose,
so
I've
seen
the
development
of
the
city
and,
just
to
be
very
blunt,
I
disapprove
of
this
development
project,
given
this
the
state
of
the
city
with
a
rise
in
homeless,
population
and
individuals
who,
at
one
point
in
time,
lived
stably
in
this
city
and
now
are
no
longer
able
to.
I
think
it's
pretty
irresponsible
and
different
apathetic
and
just
propagates
the
inequity
of
the
city.
E
I
understand
that
money
talks,
money
moves,
but
you
know
you
do
have
a
growing
population
of
individuals
like
myself
who
will
keep
resisting
to
projects
like
this,
so
just
for,
if
anyone
hasn't
stated
it
bluntly,
I
disapprove
of
this
project
and
as
a
native
of
the
city,
I
think
it's
a
valuable
opinion
and
I
sure
I'm
sure
other
people
echo
my
opinions
and
I
yield
the
rest
of
my
time.
A
Thank
you,
okay,
so
you
know
with
their
hands
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
go
back
for
the
applicant
and
staff
to
respond
to
public
comments,
so
the
apple
five
additional
minutes
to
complete
their
presentation
and
respond
to
comments.
A
R
Yes,
so
can
claire
share
her
screen
again.
Is
that
possible
there?
We
go:
apologies
for
that
for
going
over
earlier
and
I'll
wrap
it
quickly.
We
also
worked
on
you
know
south
first
and
we
learned
the
importance
of
that
street.
Historically,
the
significance
of
the
montgomery
hotel
and
again,
you
could
see
a
common
theme
in
the
architecture
where
we
have
this
corner
draping
and
the
storefront
or
the
commercial
facades
at
grade
move
to
the
next
slide.
Please.
R
R
You
know
at
the
corner,
where
you
know
currently
a
a
surface
parking
lot
exists
and
you
can
see
here.
You
know
some
of
the
features
in
the
evening
and
the
subtle
details
of
the
lighting.
So
with
that,
I
would
like
to
pass
the
mic
to
rob
with
sobrato,
and
perhaps
he
can
address
some
of
the
questions.
R
L
Thanks,
michael,
I
just
wanted
to
respond
to
the
question
around
proactively.
Looking
for
tenants
and
specifically
retail
tenants,
yeah,
absolutely
we
will
be
we.
We
have
a
website
and
a
marketing
team
actively.
You
know
marketing
the
project,
it's
no
secret.
That
covet
has
been
challenging
for
some,
especially
the
retail
tenants,
but
we're
optimistic
that
we'll
be
able
to
find
a
few
to
fill
the
space
here.
L
A
Okay,
I'd
like
to
resp
the
comments.
H
O
So,
in
terms
of
this
project
site,
it
was
actually
what
is
existing
there
right
now
is
a
surface
parking
lot,
so
nobody
on
site
is
being
displaced
for
this
project.
That's
it!
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
okay.
At
this
time,
I'm
going
to
recognize
commissioner
questions.
So,
commissioner,
bonilla.
P
I
I
was
actually
going
to
motion
that
we
approve
stops
recommendation
unless,
of
course,
called
examinations.
Second,.
A
P
A
L
No,
I
just
think
that
this
is
a
fantastic
design.
It's
a
premier
location
for
those
worried
about
empty
retail.
This
is
one
of
the
best
locations
in
the
downtown.
Frankly,
it
will
still
be
a
challenge
because
we're
coming
out
of
post
covered
world,
but
this
is
the
location
to
have
it
for
some
of
those
that
spoke.
You
know,
cities
have
a
narrow
set
of
responsibilities,
and
the
planning
commission
has
even
a
narrow
set
of
responsibilities,
and
this
falls
in
line
with
what
the
city
has
wanted
to
do
on
this
piece
of
land.
L
For
30
years,
when
I
was
in
high
school
in
san
jose,
the
redevelopment
agency
visited
our
school
showed
up
brought
in
the
three-dimensional
model
and
showed
that
there
would
be
a
building
here
someday
and
when
the
redevelopment
agency
was
open
for
business,
this
would
have
been
much
different.
They
would
have
not
only
bought
the
land,
they
would
have
provided
a
check
to
build
this
building
and
now,
with
a
no
redevelopment
agency.
L
You're,
seeing
private
sector
capital
come
into
the
city
and
will
build
this,
and
the
city
does
not
have
the
risk
it
used
to
have
when
it
was
the
rda
and
again
for
those
that
are.
There
are
members
of
the
public
that
don't
know
this.
The
city
of
san
jose
has
a
jobs,
housing
imbalance,
meaning
70
percent
of
our
residents
prior
to
covet,
left
the
city
every
day
to
go
to
work
or
five
days
a
week,
and
we
want
jobs
in
our
city
and
especially
in
our
downtown.
L
A
Thank
you,
commissioner
olivario
commissioner.
G
Thank
you,
oh
and
commissioner
olivario.
We
can
see
the
computer
reflection
your
glasses,
but
otherwise
we
can't
really
see
you
right
now
spooky.
G
So
I
also
think
about
some
of
the
comments
we
got
about
the
impacts
that
this
kind
of
development
has
on
the
community.
I'm
curious
if
the
commercial
linkage
fee
the
council
adopted
last
year
applies
to
this.
G
O
A
Commissioner,
in
the
meantime,
commissioner,
you
spilled
your
hand
up.
Did
you
have
additional
questions.
E
Thank
you,
chair,
rosalind,
huey,
director
planning,
building
and
code
enforcement.
Just
wanted
to
confirm
that
the
recently
approved
commercial
linkage
fee
would
be
applied
to
this
project,
and
I
just
want
to
confirm
with
stephanie
that
it's
included
as
a
condition
of
approval
or,
if
not,
if
we
considered
this
particular
project.
O
That's
what
I'm
checking
on
right
now.
I
just
want
to
double
check
and
confirm
great.
A
Item:
okay,
seeing
your
hand
to
allow
stephanie
to
find
that
information
before
we
move
on
to
taking
a.
A
G
And
maybe
in
the
meantime,
for
the
members
of
the
public
they're
still
here
maybe
helpful
to
get
a
brief
explanation
of
what
the
commercial
linkage
fee.
A
A
That
would
be
wonderful,
rosalind,
or
I
know
michael
and
robert
are
also
on
the
line.
If
one
of
you
would
mind
describing
the
commercial
linkage
fee.
R
So
I
just
oh
go
ahead
rosa.
I
just
got
an
answer
from
chris
burton.
He
says
that
this
project
was
not
pipelined
for
commercial
linkage
fee,
which
means
it
would
be
subject
to
commercial
linkage.
N
Fee
and
if
you'd
like
I
can
respond
to
what
the
commercial
linkage
is,
it's
a
fee
that
is
placed
upon
non-residential
development
by
the
city,
it
with
some
exceptions.
Obviously
that
is
used
that
is
earmarked
to
supplement
our
affordable
housing
programs.
N
So
it
supplements
all
of
our
programs
for
the
acquisition
of
property,
for
affordable
housing
projects
and
for
the
construction
of
affordable
housing
and
for
potentially
also
drawdown
of
rents
for
affordable
housing,
and
so
it
it
was
based
upon
a
study
that
determined
that
new
employment
in
the
city,
new
employment
uses
in
the
city
create
a
need
for
affordable
housing,
and
that
was
the
basis
for
the
commercial
linkage
fee.
O
So
I
see
here
in
the
resolution
that
there
is
a
downtown
financing
plan,
which
I
believe
is
what
we're
talking
about
today,
because
it
discusses
commercial
linkage,
fee
programs.
A
G
O
Michael,
can
you
confirm
what
chris
burton
said,
yeah.
R
Chris
said
so,
usually
oftentimes
there's,
what's
called
a
pipeline,
which
means
projects
that
were
already
submitted.
Their
applications
are
not
subject
to
fees
that
get
enacted
by
council
after
while
they're
in
process
there
was
no.
He
said
there
was
no
pipeline
provision,
so
this
commercial
linkage
fee
would
apply
to
this
project.
That's
what
he
said.
A
And
then
at
tim
you
have
your
hand
up
as
well.
D
Yeah
good
evening,
commissioners,
at
tim,
rue
division
manager
planning.
I
just
wanted
to
confirm
that
that
condition
is
contained
in
item
35
of
the
resolution.
In
the
last
paragraph,
it
describes
the
various
fees
under
consideration,
including
commercial
linkage
program,
and
then
the
last
paragraph
states
that
the
primitive
agrees
that,
prior
to
the
issuance
of
any
building.
Q
G
A
Thank
you,
okay,
so
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
on
the
floor
and
commissioner
olivario
provided
some
comments.
Vice
chairman.
Did
you
wish
to
speak
any
further
to
your
motion.
P
Oh
other
than
to
thank
you
for
managing
this
hectic
meeting
right
now
and
just
getting
everything
in
order.
I
appreciate
your
your
grace
and
your
willingness
to
to
listen
to
the
crowd.
That's
perhaps
involved
in
this
process
for
the
first
time
their
opinions
matter,
and
I
appreciate
you
for
for
taking
that
into
account.
A
Thank
you,
okay.
So,
at
this
time
we're
going
to
do
a
roll
call
vote
on
item
5a,
where
the
motion
on
the
floor
is
to
accept
the
staff
recommendation,
so
vice
chair
bonilla.
P
L
Q
Q
A
Commissioner,
koren
hi
and
chair
caballero
is
also
an
I
and
we
will
pause
for
a
moment
to
let
the
staff
go
ahead
and
show
the
votes
on
the
screen,
but,
based
on
my
account,
this
item
passes.
A
Okay,
so
that
passes
unanimously.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you
to
the
applicants.
I'm
excited
to
see
our
downtown
continue
to
grow,
and
hopefully
we
will
get
some
great
applicants
there,
some
great
tenants
into
that
building
and
and
some
storefront
restaurants,
so
we're
gonna
move
on
to
item
number
six,
which
is
to
open
the
general
plan
hearing.
A
So
the
general
plan
hearing
is
now
open
item
number
seven
is
the
general
plan
consent
calendar
for
which
there
are
no
items?
We
will
be
moving
on
to
item
number,
eight,
a
and
eight
b,
which,
as
I
mentioned,
we're
going
to
here
concurrently,
which
means
we'll
have
the
staff
presentation
on
the
bbuv
as
well
as
the
rezoning
and
then
the
applicant
presentations
on
the
rezoning.
A
The
way
that
we're
going
to
handle
public
comment
is
that
we
have
a
significant
number
of
folks
who
require
translation
today,
and
we
want
to
be
cognizant
of
that.
It
is
actually
technically
quite
complicated
to
move
the
translators
in
and
out
of
the
rooms
where
they
simultaneously
translate.
What
we're
saying
to
the
listeners,
but
then
they
have
to
do
a
different
type
of
translation
for
the
commenters
to
us.
A
So
at
this
time
I'm
going
to
ask
only
those
folks
who
need
spanish
translation
to
raise
their
hands
in
preparation
for
the
public
comments
section.
Once
we
hear
from
the
spanish,
the
folks
who
are
speaking
in
spanish,
we
will
then
take
the
english
public
comment.
Then
we
will
move
to
vietnamese
and
then
we
will
move
to
chinese
if
additional
folks
still
need
to
speak,
we'll
go
through
the
process
again.
So
again,
if
only
those
people
who
need
spanish
translation
for
public
comment
can
raise
their
hand.
A
A
To
staff
to
provide
the
presentation
on
items
8a
and
8b,
and
I'm
not
going
to
read
both
items,
I
will
let
staff
go
ahead
and
do
that
and
commissioner-
and
I
did
you
want,
did
you
want
to
make
a
comment
now
before
we
start
sorry,
your
hand
keeps
going
up?
A
A
C
Thank
you
manchester,
my
I'm
sure
and
uploading
commissioners.
My
name
is
charla
gomez.
I
am
the
stationary
planning
team
lead
for
the
citywide
planning
section.
I
am
also
the
project
manager
for
items
8,
8
and
8b
on
the
agenda
this
evening.
The
first
one
is
files
gp2008
and
file.
C
C
This
is
located
in
1590,
barius
road.
The
site
is
currently
occupied
by
the
samples
of
flea
market
in
associated
parking
areas.
So
city
staff
will
provide
presentation,
as
you
correctly
said,
on
both
items,
and
I
will
have
our
city
staff
and
consultants
at
the
end
to
answer
any
questions.
So
what
I'd
like
to
do
at
this
point
is
just
to
launch
a
powerpoint
presentation
and
just
to
be
clear,
we
will
try
to
do
an
overview
of
both
items
very
quickly,
but
at
the
same
time
we
hope
to
do
a
full
presentation.
C
C
Okay,
thank
you
so
much
so,
as
I
said
before,
the
first
item
is
the
berries
of
our
urban
delicious
plan
so
very
quickly.
We
have
what
we
call.
The
urban
village
just
plan
is
a
general
plan,
major
strategy,
so
very
quickly.
This
is
the
strategy
we
have
in
the
city
for
our
growth.
Basically,
we
have
about
60
urban
villages
have
been
designated
in
the
entire
city
and
they
supposed
to
accommodate
housing
in
jobs.
This
is
designed
also
to
be
synchronized
with
our
greenhouse
gas
reduction
strategy.
C
C
So
it's
generally
speaking
to
move
this
into
the
map
and
get
a
sense
of
where
this
is
located.
The
barius
of
arabian
village
is
located
right
around
the
beriasan
north
san
jose
bar
station.
This
is
what
is
called
a
bar
phase
one.
This
is
the
orange
color.
When
you
see
the
blue
is,
would
be
the
bar
phase,
two
extension
into
downtown
san
jose.
C
So
this
is
just
a
general
location
of
where
this
is
just
to
get
a
sense
of
the
scale,
how
big
it
is
and
what
it
means
for
the
city.
This
is
about
270
acres,
very
comparable
to
the
durian
stationary
plant
plan.
C
It
will
accommodate
4.2
million
square
feet
of
commercial
development
in
about
5
000
units.
As
I
said
before,
the
north
san
jose
bar
station
would
be
at
the
center
of
the
urban
village.
You
have
a
projected
25
000
riders
by
2030.,
it's
very
important
to
say
this
is
the
first
and
only
surface
bar
station
in
the
city.
So
it's
a
very
unique
opportunity
to
do
an
amazing
place
here.
It's
important
also
because
this
is
not
only
a
policy
plan.
C
We'll
have
a
zoning
that
we're
hearing
this
evening
that
basically
implements
the
plan
and
very
quickly
the
planning
process
is
started
in
2018
is
concluded
this
year.
We
want
to
start
a
presentation
with
community
outreach
and
engagement.
We
feel
it's
important
to
put
in
context
how
much
outreach
good
is
for
this
project.
So,
first
of
all,
we
did
a
notification
radius
about
a
thousand
feet
around
the
boundary.
C
So
we
reach
out
to
about
3
000
properties
and
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
all
of
these
things,
but
you
get
a
sense
of
how
much
this
was
done.
You
know
5
000
mailings.
We
have
incredible
attendance
and
all
the
workshops.
On
average
about
100
people,
we
did
door
hangers.
C
We
did
a
special
online
engagement
tool
to
get
community
feedback
on
on
the
ideas
of
the
concepts
of
the
plan
last
october,
with
the
three
webinars
that
were
very
heavily
attended,
and
we
expl
basically
do
the
presentation
of
the
plan
to
the
committee.
We
also
have
dedicated
websites
for
both
the
red
zoning
and
for
the
urban
building
plan
and
we've
done
extensive
presentations
with
other
forums.
C
So
one
of
the
key
things
that
we
heard
from
the
community
at
the
time
of
the
workshops
was,
if
you
are
going
to
bring
new
development,
please
do
every
effort
that
you
can
to
concentrate
those
in
what
is
called
opportunity
sites
and
what
we're
going
to
call
in
this
evening.
Districts
very
important
to
this
refer.
This
is
not
sunny
districts.
This
is
basically
our
areas
in
the
urban
village
plan
that
concentrates
the
jobs
in
housing.
C
We
heard
from
the
community
this
notion
of
heights
in
order
to
concentrate
the
heights.
We
needed
to
be
very
cognizant
of
the
effect
of
those
heights
in
the
existing
neighborhoods,
but
we
like
to
use
the
work
crafted
because
it's
exactly
what
we
did
almost
like,
sculpted
all
the
blocks
around
those
opportunity
sites.
C
We
heard
also
from
the
community
that
there
was
a
need
for
more
housing.
So
we
brought
more
housing
into
the
plant
capacity
for
the
plan
we
pre
protected
existing
corridors.
There
are
you're
going
to
see
that
in
the
place
making
part
basically
a
part
of
the
watershed
of
the
area,
so
it
serves
an
ecological
function.
C
Parking
was
a
central
issue,
so
we
we're
addressing
parking
very
comprehensively
because
it's
going
to
be
the
end
of
the
live
station.
The
committee
also
was
very
vocal
about
values
of
sustainability,
so
we're
addressing
that
very
quickly.
The
urban
ambition
of
this
is
as
the
innovation
district
because
of
the
part
presence
will
attract
a
lot
of
jobs.
We
believe
so
many
green
spaces.
C
Recreational
opportunities,
the
notion
of
interconnected
network
of
pedestrian
paths,
the
ability
to
walk
and
bike
very
important;
the
ability
to
have
housing,
jobs,
close
to
transit,
protecting
existing
neighborhoods
and,
basically
to
have
a
24
7,
365
environment
that
is
very
reliable
for
everyone
in
the
city,
not
just
that
area
specifically
based
on
the
community
in
feedback.
We
basically.
F
C
Prepare
five
guiding
principles:
they
basically
are
used
to
guide
all
our
policies,
standards
in
the
entire
plan,
so
very
quickly.
Principle,
one
is
the
notion
of
connectivity.
This
is
fundamentally
important
to
provide
access
to
the
bar
station
principle
tools
of
alternate
forms
of
transportation.
That
includes
different
modes
of
mobility,
including
walking,
biking,
etc.
Sustainability,
as
I
mentioned,
is
very
important.
B
C
Urban
community
is
very
important,
very
quickly
about
land
use
so,
as
they
said
before,
their
embellishment
is
trying
to
concentrate
development
on
four
opportunity
sites
called
districts.
It's
called
the
facino
side,
various
in
londi
seismic.
They
are
located
at
the
corner
of
londy
and
barissa
road.
We
have
obviously
the
side
of
the
flea
market,
and
then
we
have
what
we
call
bta
station
lands.
This
is
the
areas
where
right
now
is
the
bar
station
and
we
call
the
east
district.
So
what
what?
What
the
planning
process
told
us?
C
It
should
distribute
the
plant
capacities,
5100
units
4.2
million
square
feet
in
which
represents
about
4
000
jobs
in
all
those
areas,
and
then
we
crafted
a
started
planning
process
about
those
opportunity
sites
and
just
for
general
context,
you
can
see
where
berryessa
wrote
is
located.
Mayberry
the
interchange
went
on
with
the
101
talk
about
that
briefly,
because
that's
an
important
component
and
we
also
have
the
bar
station
at
the
center.
C
The
general
plan
for
this
land
use
plan
is
generally
about
different
kinds
of
uses.
I
think
most
notably
from
this
slide.
You
can
see
the
blue
color.
That
represents
a
trans
unemployment
center
designation
that
basically
calls
for
intensity
of
jobs
and
commercial
development.
The
dark
brown
color
is
a
transient
residential
line.
You
designation,
so
those
are
the
most
intense
ones.
C
So
you
can
see
the
flea
market
is
concentrating
a
lot
of
those
opportunities
because
it's
basically
in
the
center
of
the
urban
village,
it
has
the
more
walkability
the
more
accessibility,
but
it's
also
an
ability
to
concentrate
development
outside
of
the
existing
images
in
such
a
way
that
we
can
preserve
them,
and
you
see
the
other
land
use
designations
in
terms
of
urban
design.
I
would
like
to
bring
very
quickly
to
our
consultant,
s.o.m
out
of
san
francisco
ellen
you
have.
You
can
speak
very
quickly
about
the
next
two
slides.
J
You
so
we're
talking
about
the
urban
design
for
the
project
and
the
key
overarching
ideas
is
to
concentrate
deep
density
and
mix
of
uses
close
to
the
bart
station
and
provide
attractive
and
lively
open
space
throughout
the
urban
village.
So
the
center
open
space,
which
you
see
is
very
colorful,
yellow
and
green
color
is
conductive
station
on
the
left
to
the
coyote
creek
corridor.
J
J
Next,
as
for
urban
form,
taller
buildings
are
focused
around
the
bart
plaza
and
along
the
bark
tracks,
and
the
few
residential
towers
are
located
at
the
confluence
of
the
two
creeks
new
buildings
adjacent
to
to
the
adjacent
existing
housings
are
lower
to
respect
existing
residential
neighbors
such
as
those
on
the
top
right
hand,
side
in
salmon,
color
townhouses
around
the
facino
site.
C
Thank
you
ellen
very
quickly,
we're
going
to
speak
about
the
circulation
and
parking,
as
I
mentioned.
Initially,
this
is
one
of
the
most
important
things
about
parking
community
was
very
concerned
about
spelling
of
parking
in
the
neighborhoods.
So
with
this
was
a
very
sophisticated
transportation
planning
analysis
not
only
for
the
various
environment
village,
but
extending
beyond
the
area
in
something
where
it's
called
the
berry
is
a
multi-malt
transportation
improvement
brand.
C
We
work
with
consultants
and
our
city
staff
in
department
of
transportation
and
basically,
the
worst
engineer,
a
system
of
streets
that
is
designed
to
combine
different
types
of
mobility
with
different
kinds
of
prioritations,
and
so
the
colors
that
you
see
in
the
screen
reflect
the
priority
level
of
those
mobility
forms,
but
in
total
we
have
twin
transportation
improvement
projects
around
the
area.
We
believe
that
this
is
implemented
would
be.
C
You
know
at
a
very
incredible
place
in
terms
of
mobility,
to
get
a
sense
of
how
this
is
connected
with
urban
design
and
line
use.
We
felt
it
was
important
to
represent
visually.
How
this
place
looks
like
once,
it's
being
developed,
so
very
important
in
front
of
the
bar
station
is
a
plaza
that
is
being
designed
and
by
the
way
they
were
saying.
C
You're
gonna
hear
that
how
addresses
this
thing,
but
what's
important,
this
is
an
amazing
place
to
be
when
you
arrive
from
the
bar
station
and
you
have
a
ridership
of
25
000
people,
some
people
at
some
time,
peak
hours.
This
could
be
an
incredible
place
to
be
it's
just
just
to
you
know,
go
to
the
bar
station
park,
your
car
in
the
park
structure
and
just
go
to
auckland.
So
it's
just
much
more
than
that.
It's
an
incredible
place
to
be
there.
C
We
believe
they
have
all
the
right
policies
to
make
sure
that
this
place
looks
incredible
in
the
future.
Similarly,
if
you
do
an
a
pedestrian
view
of
that
place,
there's
an
opportunities
to
have
active
of
gardens
in
interactive,
plaza
and
basically,
an
incredible
place
to
be
there
centrally
in
terms
of
open
space
and
place
making.
What
we
have
is
a
very
interconnected
network
of
open
spaces
that
we
like
to
believe
this
connects
with
a
larger
region.
C
In
terms
of
the
watershed
and
the
ecological
function
of
penitentiary
and
coyote
creek,
so
where
you
seen
that
those
dark
colors
are
the
creeks
and
the
the
other
color
that
is,
the
lighter
green
is
basically
the
entire
watershed.
C
It's
important
to
understand
that
the
open
space
and
the
different
parks
that
connects
those
numbers
basically
are
for
parks.
Those
were
identifying
the
plan
and
were
implemented
in
the
zoning.
So
the
zoning
is
consistent
with
this
open
space
network,
so
there's
opportunities
to
do
all
kinds
of
things
there,
but
the
most,
notably
that
the
most
important
part
is
probably
the
central
open
space
simply
because
it's
the
most
important
place
in
terms
of
place
making
for
future
activities.
C
We
have
a
talk
to
the
developer,
about
the
ideas
to
the
parks
department.
What
the
potential
programming
of
this
could
look
like
if
people
are
interested
in
about
what
exactly
are
the
policies
for
their
and
open
space
chapter
or
the
various
environmental
plan
draft?
C
So
this
is
again
designed
to
provide
incredible
opportunities
for
everybody,
not
just
for
people
who
live
and
work
there
in
terms
of
sustainable
resiliency.
As
I
said
before,
that
was
one
of
the
values
identified
and
committed
in
the
workshops,
so
that
basically
tie
very
nicely
with
the
goal
of
san
jose
in
terms
of
greenhouse
gas
reductions.
That
is
basically
consigned
climate
smart.
So
what
what
the
plan
has
is
a
very
robust
sustainability
framework
that
connects
all
the
different
components
that
will
bring
greenhouse
gas
reductions
comprehensively.
C
So
we
have
energy.
We
talk
about
electric
vehicles,
water,
solid
waste,
ecosystem
protection
and
community
resiliency.
We
think
that
all
the
policies
in
the
plan
will
basically
transform
this
place
very
close
to
the
carbon
neutrals
of
quantum
smart,
so
very
quickly
about
our
staff.
C
Recommendation
for
the
urban
village
plan
is
basically
to
consider
the
initial
study
addendum
of
the
general
plan,
eir
number
two
to
adopt
a
resolution
approving
basically
the
general
plan
that
basically
implements
the
land
use
plan
and,
as
I
said
before,
this
is
about
the
plan
capacity
for
jobs
and
housing.
We
need
to
change
up
index
five
to
bring
more
housing
here.
C
We
are
very
loud
and
clear
that
we
need
to
have
more
housing,
so
we're
doing
that
and
b
would
be
the
adoption
of
the
rebuild
per
se,
which
is
the
guiding
policy
document.
Number
three
is
very
important
for
for
us
to
also
do
a
general
plan,
sony
conformance.
So
this
item
refers
to
the
risoni
of
20.9
acres,
which
is
basically
what
we
call
the
east
district,
which
is
the
lens
of
bta.
C
So
with
that
being
said,
I'm
going
to
go
very
quickly
to
the
presentation
of
discerning
from
the
staff's
perspective.
I'm
going
to
start
going
back
and
it's
important
to
understand
that
we
we
look
at
there's
a
history
of
this
site
in
the
last
20
years.
So
the
background
of
the
the
san
jose
flea
market
goes
back
to
1960
when
first
often
defunded
it
was
funded
by
george
bomb
senior,
so
the
van
family
has
been
in
possession
of
this
land
for
a
very
long
time.
C
At
some
point,
it
started
with
only
20
vendors.
I
believe
they
have
something
like
4
million
visitors
a
year
for
wikipedia.
So
we
know
that
this
place
is
incredible.
It's
been
there
on
the
horizon.
For
many
many
years-
and
it's
been
part
of
the
the
city's
history,
obviously
so
what
we
have
here
is
a
very
quick
synopsis
of
what
the
planning
histories
are
on.
The
side
goes
back
20
years
back
in
2000,
when
voters
approved
measure
a
to
fund
bar
extension
in
san
jose.
C
So
I'm
going
to
read
all
of
this.
What
you
see
in
jello
are
the
key
milestone
in
this
planning.
History
2007
was
the
first
brazilian.
It
was
the
first
time
that
the
notion
of
adding
significant
amount
of
housing
in
about
4
000
square
feet
of
commercial
for
both
what
is
called
the
north
side
in
the
south
side
of
the
flea
market
and
you're,
going
to
see
that
next,
but
keep
in
mind
here.
C
It's
just
what
is
in
doubt
that
the
most
recent
rezoning
that
includes
the
flea
market
sell
also
it
was
in
2016,
but
that's
how
council
gives
direction
to
reselling
themselves
flea
market
and
provide
between
1.5
and
2.2
million
square
feet
of
commercial.
This
is
part
of
the
connection
of
the
area.
One
transportation
demand
policy
and
we're
not
going
to
talk
about
that
too
in
detail,
but
we're
prepared
to
answer
questions
about
that.
C
The
most
recently
we
have
the
2018,
which
is
when
the
optican
files
for
the
arizonian
that
you
have
this
evening
for
consideration.
So
we
have
also
the
various
apartment
village
plan
that
I
just
described
so
very
quickly
to
get
a
sense
of
how
long
this
has
been
there.
The
the
2007
originally
have
a
land
use
plan
that
calls
for
residential
uses
commercial
uses,
both
both
on
the
north
side
and
south
side
of
the
sea
market
very
similar.
C
What
what
the
urban
village
plan
is
doing
and
what
the
eurozone
is
right
now
doing
is
is
very
much
consistent
to
the
original
vision
of
this
transit
village.
At
the
time
the
capacities
here
are
were
lower,
but
because
we're
trying
to
be
consistent
with
the
adoption
of
their
embellishment
there's
much
more
capacities.
C
Innovation
for
this
site
in
2016.
There
was
a
change
to
do
certain
things
in
the
north
side,
unaware
to
all
the
details,
but
essentially
those
minor
modifications,
basically
with
a
parkside
in
the
north
side
and
allowing
additional
development.
But
one
of
the
conditions
it
was
to
basically
that
there
was
condition
to
approve
that
responding
on
the
notion
that
a
future
arizona
should
consider
additional
commercial
capacity.
In
the
south
side,
it
was
significantly
more
than
was
originally
envisioned
in
the
2007
resonance.
C
So
what
you
see
here
right
now
is
a
rendering
of
the
proposed
rezoning,
which
significantly
increases
that
capacity.
We
have
a
lower
margin
of
1700
units
and
up
to
34.50
for
the
rezoning.
This
is
consistent
with
the
plan,
a
minimum
of
1.5
million
square
feet
of
commercial
development.
That's
a
minimum
stress,
call
and
a
maximum
of
3.4.
C
So
with
a
50
parking
reduction.
This
is
the
current
site
plan
choose
for
priority
purposes.
This
is
a
conceptual
master
plan
of
the
resume.
It
doesn't
mean
that
these
buildings
are
going
to
be
built.
It
means
that
it's
a
conceptual
master
plan.
It
provides
an
idea
of
how
the
buildings
could
look
like
looking
into
the
future
to
get
a
sense
of
the
the
massing,
the
blocks,
the
open
space,
the
system
network-
and
I
think
it's
worth
mentioning
that
this
cyclone
is
synchronized
with
various
environmental
plans.
C
C
Key
things
that
we
should
consider
this
evening
for
this
resign
is
that
it
supports
by
ridership
both
in
terms
of
housing
and
commercial
development.
So
it's
consistent
with
the
goals
of
the
general
plan.
It
is
consistent
with
the
specific
policies
of
the
various
environmentalist
plan
and
basically
creates
a
set
of
standards
for
how
this
land
could
be
developed
or
redeveloped
in
the
future,
so
it
creates
the
policy
looking
into
the
future.
Very
important
planning.
C
Commission
city
council
is
not
asked
to
be
considering
a
development
project
per
se,
so
there's
no
development
permit
applications
right
now
that
are
being
considered
this
evening.
For
for
you,
so
it's
very
important
to
keep
this
in
mind.
It
just
basically
projects
the
types
of
line
uses
to
be
very
clear
in
terms
of
the
type
of
city
sponsor
outreach.
We
have
a
standard
policy
outreach
policy
630
we
implemented.
C
We
also
did
four
latch
signs
that
are
posted
in
in
the
entrances
of
the
flea
market.
They're
being
there
since
2018,
you
can
go
to
google
maps
and
see
it
they're.
Still
there
we
did
a
community
meeting
for
the
arizona
and
the
eir
is
scoping.
In
august
2018
we
send
notices,
as
I
said
before,
within
thousand
feet
of
the
site
and
again
for
for
the
various
average
plan
that
actually
overlaps.
With
all
of
this,
we
did
the
community
worships
that
I
described
before
workshop.
C
No
one
was
in
2018
worship
number
two
2019
workshop
three
was,
as
I
said
before,
threesome
webinars
very
well,
attended,
plus
the
door
hangers
flyers,
dedicated
websites
and
forums.
I
believe
the
applicant
will
speak
this
evening
about
their
own
rich
effort
that
they've
done,
but
very
quickly,
they've
done
specific
meetings
with
the
vendors
back
in
2007.
C
So
there's
been
some
interaction
between
the
project
applicant
and
the
flea
market.
Vendors.
That's
the
city's
understanding.
So
with
this
I
would
like
to
bring
our
squad
team
david's,
who
want
to
speak
about
the
slides
of
the
environmental
impact
report.
F
Good
evening,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
this
is
david
keon
principal
planner,
with
the
city's
department
of
planning
building
and
code
enforcement.
I'm
going
to
talk
about
the
environmental
impact
report,
otherwise
known
as
the
eir
that
was
prepared
for
this
project.
An
environmental
impact
report
is
required
by
the
california
environmental
quality
act
sequa.
For
short,
that
requires
projects
to
disclose
the
environmental
impacts
of
the
project
and
identify
mitigation
measures
that
would
reduce
these
impacts
or
identify
if
these
mitigate,
if
these
impacts
cannot
be
mitigated
to
less
insignificant.
F
M
T
F
F
F
F
Eirs
with
significant
and
unavoidable
impacts
will
require
what
is
called
a
statement
of
overriding
considerations
to
be
adopted,
which
essentially
says
that
we
understand
there's
a
significant
impacts.
That
cannot
be
mitigated,
however,
due
to
the
overall
benefits
of
the
project.
The
benefits
of
the
project
outweigh
these
impacts.
This
would
be
adopted
by
city
council.
F
In
addition,
there
are
the
significant
impacts
identified
in
the
eir
that
could
be
reduced
and
less
insignificant
with
mitigation.
These
are
related
to
air
quality
construction,
biological
resources,
including
impacts
to
special
status,
fish
in
the
adjacent
creeks,
riparian
habitat
migratory
birds,
bird
strikes
and
tree
removal
in
the
riparian
area.
In
addition,
there
were
impacts
identified
to
archaeological
resources,
hazards,
hazards
and
hazardous
hazardous
materials,
mainly
due
to
existing
soil
and
groundwater
contamination
or
past
uses,
and,
finally,
construction
noise
on
adjacent
residences.
F
F
So,
as
mentioned
earlier,
an
eir
requires
there
be
an
analysis
of
alternatives
to
the
project
that
would
address
some
of
the
identified
significant
impacts,
especially
significant
and
unavoidable
impacts.
The
first
alternative
evaluated
was
called
a
no
project
alternative.
This
is
basically
no
new
development
and
continued
operation
of
the
flea
market
and
the
site
in
its
current
configuration,
there's
also
the
existing
entitlement
alternative.
F
This
would
develop
the
remaining
capacity
that
is
remaining
from
the
2007
rezoning,
as
charlotte
mentioned
earlier.
Essentially,
this
development
and
this
alternative
would
still
result
in
the
removal
of
the
flea
market,
but
the
redevelopment
of
residential
and
commercial
development
at
a
lower
intensity
than
what
was
originally
that
is
evaluated
as
part
of
the
current
project.
F
F
F
F
Responses
to
these
comments
and
a
copy
of
all
comments.
Letters
provided
were
published
in
the
first
amendment,
which
is
published
to
the
city's
website
on
march
12
and
is
linked
in
the
staff
report.
That
concludes
my
presentation.
I'm
going
to
now
give
it
back
to
sharma
for
staff
recommendation.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you
david,
so
we're
seeking
a
recommendation
on
four
specific
things.
The
first
one
is
adopt
a
resolution
certifying
the
eir
making
findings
concerning
significant
impacts,
mitigation
measures
and
alternatives
and
adopting
understatement
of
overriding
considerations
and
the
mitigation
monitoring
and
reporting
program.
This
is
basically
the
sql
aspect
of
this.
The
second
item
is
to
approve
an
ordinance
for
sony.
This
is
basically
the
resulting
file
from
the
base
district
from
aapd
to
cp
pv,
which
is
the
plan
development
sony.
C
This
will
allow
up
to
3450
dwelling
units
into
up
to
3.4
million
square
feet
of
commercial
uses.
The
third
item
is
to
approve
an
ordinance
repealing
section
14.30-35
of
the
chapter
14.30
of
title
14
of
the
samples
and
municipal
code
and
that
basically
refers
to
the
u.s
101
oakland
mayberry
trafficking
taxi.
We
need
to
do
that
in
order
to
amend
the
resolution
to
adopt
a
resolution
adopting
an
amendment
of
that
same
101
area
development
policy,
which
is
step
four
item
and
provide
credit
for
the
current
project's
traffic
impact
fee.
C
So
we
obviously
have
a
lot
of
information
about
these
items
a
week,
happy
to
answer
questions
from
money
commission.
At
this
time,
I
would
like
to
refer
back
to
you
then
chair
for
public
comment.
I
believe,
actually,
I
believe
the
project
applicant
will
do
a
presentation
after
this
not
sure
about
that.
T
It
would
be
an
opportunity
for
the
applicant
to
make
a
presentation,
I'm
going
to
actually
make
a
quick
announcement
before
we
have
the
applicant
make
their
presentation
again
as
a
reminder
we're
taking
items
8a
and
8b
together.
We
will
offer
one
opportunity
for
public
comment
on
both
items
that
will
be
for
two
minutes:
four
minutes
for
those
needing
translation.
T
At
this
time.
We're
asking
only
those
folks
who
need
spanish
translation
to
raise
their
hand.
We
will
make
another
announcement
when
we're
ready
to
take
the
the
rest
of
the
public
speakers.
The
reason
that
we're
grouping
those
needing
translation
together
is
so
that
we
can
more
easily
manage
moving
them
in
and
out
of
the
simultaneous
translation
rooms.
So
this
allows
for
the
commissioners
to
fully
understand
the
comments
that
the
public
is
providing
to
us.
T
Once
we
finish
with
the
spanish
translation,
then
we'll
move
on
to
we'll
ask
folks
who
will
ask
other
folks
to
start
raising
their
hands.
So
I
want
to
recognize
commissioner
olivario
before
we
go
ahead
and
move
to
the
applicant's
presentation
for
five
minutes.
So,
commissioner,.
L
L
You
made
those
four
recommendations
on
your
staff
approval,
but
for
the
layperson's
perspective,
essentially
the
recommendation
that
you're,
providing,
of
course
with
the
affirmation
of
the
certification
of
the
eir,
is
that
you're,
essentially
simply
adding
the
capacity
for
more
commercial
square
feet
and
more
residential
square
feet.
Is
that
a
fair
assessment
from
a
lay
person's.
C
L
But
it's
not
really
the
ear
that's
being
taken
tonight.
If
you
were
a
layperson
looking
at
what
the
final
result
would
be
from
the
planning
staff
recommendation,
is
it
essentially
simply
the
increase
of
square
footage
of
commercial
and
residential
within
a
a
piece
of
land?
That's
already
had
approvals
before.
R
Yeah
so
right
so
there's
an
approved
zoning
on
this,
the
flea
market
site,
and
it
it
has
a.
I
don't
remember-
the
numbers
charlotte
could
go
back,
but
a
certain
amount
of
housing
development
up
to
three
thousand
so
square
feet
of
commercial
development.
The
developer
could
go
ahead.
They
have
the
right
to
to
build
under
that
zone.
They
may
have
to
come
back
for
permits,
of
course,
but
that's
an
approved
zoning.
L
T
Thank
you,
commissioner,
olivario
for
having
staff
break
that
down
for
us
and
for
the
public.
So
at
this
time
I
is
it
gonna
be
eric
schoenhauer
who
is
making
the
applicant
presentation.
T
Great
so
five
minutes
on
the
on
the
clock.
T
All
right,
if
we
could
get
when
you're
ready
to
start
we'll,
give
you
five
minutes
to
do
your
presentation
and
then
you'll
have
five
minutes
after
public
comment
to
respond
to
comments
and
answer
any
additional
questions.
H
B
Yes
all
right
good
evening,
chair
caballero
members
of
the
commission,
my
name
is
eric
schnauer
and
I
represent
bombing
associates
who
owns
the
land,
owns
the
flea
market
business
and
is
the
applicant
for
this
zoning,
and
we
first
like
to
thank
the
city
staff
for
all
their
work
on
the
urban
village
plan,
the
zoning
review
and
the
eir
and
we'd
like
to
thank
the
community
for
all
of
their
engagement
over
the
years
on
this
project.
B
So
the
staff
has
already
covered
some
of
this,
but
I
want
to
emphasize
a
few
points,
and
that
is
that
the
project
has
already
been
approved
and
as
staff
just
confirmed,
the
only
question
tonight
is:
do
we
add
office
development
capacity
and
residential
capacity
to
the
plan?
So,
as
was
mentioned
in
2003,
the
city
council
approved
the
general
plan
master
plan
in
2005.
The
metropolitan
transportation
commission
passed
a
resolution
that
required
that
the
city
approve
this.
B
This
zoning
for
increased
residential
development
as
a
condition
of
getting
federal
funds
for
the
bart
extension
in
2007.
The
city
council
approved
the
the
the
zoning
that
has
been
talked
about
and
in
2016,
the
city
council
directed
us
the
owners
to
process
a
new
zoning
and
come
forward
to
the
city
council
with
a
new
zoning
that
had
increased
office
capacity
and
residential
capacity,
and
that's
what
you're.
Seeing
today
we
are
following
through
with
the
council
member
and
mayor's
request
to
bring
this
forward.
B
B
B
This
is
the
current
conceptual
site
plan
that
you
are
looking
at
in
the
zoning
today.
The
the
blocks
in
blue
are
anticipated
to
be
primarily
office,
commercial
development,
the
blocks
in
yellow
or
gold
are
predominantly
residential.
B
This
gives
you
a
3d
representation
of
what
the
project
could
look
like.
This
will
be
the
densest
neighborhood
outside
of
the
downtown.
It
allows
residential
buildings
of
160
feet
tall
15
stories.
There
are
no
15-story
residential
buildings
outside
of
the
downtown
in
san
jose
right
now
it
allows
office
buildings
of
270
feet
which
rival
the
height
of
office
buildings
in
downtown
san
jose.
At
the
bottom
of
this
slide,
you
can
see
some
depictions
of
the
kinds
of
buildings
that
could
be
built
under
this
zoning.
B
This
is
a
simulation
of
the
intensity
of
development
that
could
occur
as
part
of
this
project.
Looking
down
the
s
esplanade
from
coyote
creek
to
the
bart
station,
this
is
the
central
plaza
meant
to
be
an
active
place
for
the
community.
This
is
berryessa
road.
Looking
towards
downtown.
You
can
see
the
south
side
development
intensity
on
the
left
side,
and
this
is
some
depictions
of
the
scale
of
buildings
that
could
occur
as
far
as
community
engagement
staff
went
over
a
lot
of
the
dates,
but
I
want
to
display
them
again.
B
We,
as
the
owner
of
the
flea
market,
have
done
intensive
outreach
to
the
vendors
over
the
last
decade
or
so
keeping
them
up
to
date
along
the
way
about
what's
happening
with
the
project
and
how
construction
will
impact
them.
So
we
look
forward
to
coming
back
in
the
five
minutes
after
public
comment
to
to
provide
more
information
about
the
future
of
the
flea
market.
Thank
you.
T
Thank
you
so,
at
this
time
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
move
the
spanish
translator
into
our
main
room,
and
we
will
start
with
four
minutes
on
the
clock.
Two
minutes
for
the
main
speaker
and
two
minutes
for
the
translation.
T
If
we
could
remind
folks
to
pause
periodically
so
that
the
translator
can
translate
for
you
and
let
the
commissioners
know
what
you're
saying
so,
just
remember
to
pause
so
that
they
can
translate.
J
Translating
these
spanish
speaking
comments
to
english.
T
E
T
G
I
K
D
K
H
Okay-
and
that
concludes
his
comment.
A
K
Good
morning
to
everybody-
and
it's
not
that
good
or
good
afternoon
good
evening
to
everybody.
But
it's
not
such
a
good
evening
for
all
of
the
vendors
there.
At
the
flea
market,
we'd
like
to
establish
a
plan.
H
K
And
so
the
flea
market
has
been,
you
know,
part
of
our
hearts
in
our
culture,
and
I
see
that
three
latino
commissioners
and
I
hope
you
do
the
right
thing.
K
K
R
T
Remind
folks
that
you
have
two
minutes
to
speak
and
then
two
minutes
for
translation.
So
since
we're
doing
kind
of
intermittent
translation
it
it,
the
timer
will
go
to
two
minutes
and
then
restart.
And
so
that's
what
we
just
did.
So
just
just
be
aware
that
you
have
two
minutes
for
your
total
comments
and
then
two
minutes.
H
Okay,
nubia,
you
are
unmuted.
I
K
And
my
question
is
that
the
representative
of
the
flea
market
stated
that
you
know
they.
They
have
plans
to
relocate
us,
but
we
haven't
heard
anything
from
them
yet.
So
what
my
question
is
is
what
is
the
city
doing
as
far
as
finding
somewhere
to
relocate
us,
because
for
the
last
10
years,
they've
been
telling
us
that
there's
going
to
be
some
changes
happening
and
we
would
like
to
be
included
in
the
process?
H
Okay,
roberto,
you
are,
oh
sorry,
no
rigobarto!
You
are
unmuted,
go
ahead
and
and
mute
yourself
and
begin
to
speak.
Okay.
K
I
K
My
name
is,
I
have
been
a
vendor
at
the
flea
market
for
30
years
at
my
post
we
sell
candies,
we
sell
pinatas,
and
that
is
our
only
source
of
income
for
not
just
myself,
but
for
a
couple
of
other
families.
For
example,
my
sister
and
my
brother-in-law
worked
there
for
me
and
not
including
the
vendors
as
part
of
the
process.
K
The
information
that
has
been
given
to
the
vendors
in
the
form
that
they
did
it
they
did
like
the
town
hall
meeting
at
the
flea
market
and
the
information
that
was
passed
was
not
enough
information
not
only
that,
but
they
never
did
mention
exactly
what
was
going
to
take
place
as
far
as
relocating
us
or
giving
us
some
sort
of
assistance
or
what
the
plan
was,
and
my
petition
to
the
commission
is
that
that
not
including
us
in
any
of
these
plans
would
definitely
have
a
huge
impact.
K
So
what
we're
asking
for
is?
Is
there
something
in
place?
A
plan
in
place
that
can
have
us
have
some
sort
of
economic
relief
or
some
sort
of
designated
area
for
us
to
relocate
to.
That
is
all
I
have
to.
H
Sorry
by
the
oh
sorry,
you
can't
read
this
name.
You
are
unmuted,
go
ahead
and
unmute
yourself
and
begin
to
speak.
D
K
K
Impact
that
this
macroeconomic
development
will
have
on
our
community,
you
know
I
will
be
since
we
have
been
a
family
tradition
just
like
they
stay
inside
the
flea
market.
K
These
micro,
econ
economic,
these
micro
economies,
that
we
have
as
vendors
in
within
that
flea
market
are
literally
the
backbone
of
the
flea
market
and
those
same
micro
economies
are
the
ones
that
have
afforded
the
macroeconomic
development
that
the
flea
market
is
now
being
able
to
turn
into
and
as
far
as
the
eir
that
was
mentioned
earlier,
and
any
certification
over
the
er,
where
they
are
stating
that
you
know
some
benefits
outweighing
other
benefits.
Well,
they
don't
say
a
lot
about
the
things
that
should
actually
be
there
plus,
who
is?
K
Who
is
the
one
in
charge
of
what
outweighs
what?
Because,
if
you
stop
and
think
about
the
cultural
shock
that
might
happen
or
my
in
the
impact
of
the
cultural
shock
that
could
take
place
here,
you
know
they
haven't
taken
that
into
consideration.
We
would
just
like
to
be
a
part
of
the
process,
so
that
is
all
that.
I
have.
H
Okay,
fanny,
you
are
next,
you
are
unmuted,
go
ahead
and
unmute
yourself
and
begin
to
speak.
E
E
K
When
I
say
our
place,
I'm
talking
about
for
the
last
18
years,
I've
had
my
business
there
with
my
family
and
there's
our
only
source
of
income.
N
K
But
I
am
definitely
not
in
agreement
with
this
right
now
and
I'm
stating
that
as
a
person
as
a
female
business
owner
as
a
resident
and
what
you
need
to
understand
that
that
flea
market
is
a
place
of
work
and
the
flea
market
happens
to
be
the
largest
one
in
the
united
states
and
there's
so
many
people
that
are
willing
to
come
out.
Just
to
see
that,
and
that
is
all
I
have
to
say.
I
K
Okay,
the
first
thing
is
that
there
is
a
lack
of
information
being
given
to
us,
and
that
should
be
the
very
first
step
and
the
first
step
to
approve
any
project
should
be
giving
out
proper
information
of
the
government
of
san
jose
and
the
owners
of
the
flea
market
did
not
properly
advise
everybody,
and
I
find
it
offensive
to
the
community
that
the
person
that
gave
the
presentation
earlier
stated
that
they
had
had
multiple
meetings
where
they
divulged
this
information
to
the
vendors,
where
we
have
700
vendors
there
and
out
of
those
700
vendors,
you
know
there
was
not
even
500
there,
and
so
that
is
the
main
point.
K
Another
good
point
is
the
fact
that
I
found
out
about
this
through
other
citizens
and
other
vendors,
so
this
information
is
not
being
put
out
the
way
it's
supposed
to
be
put
out.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
it
was
stated
also
by
that
person
that
this
project
has
already
been
approved.
What
I
want
everybody
to
know
is
that
it
was
wrongly
approved
because
they
did
not
take
into
contemplation
or
they
didn't
contemplate
the
vendors
that
are
there.
K
So
this
was
wrongly
approved
and
wrongly
done
just
like
in
europe,
hitler
was
appointed
and
you
know
that
was
a
mistake
just
like
in
the
u.s,
slavery
was
taken
and
custom,
and
that
was
also
a
mistake
and
not
to
take
into
consideration.
The
vendors
is
also
a
mistake.
H
K
H
Okay,
then,
you
are
unmuted.
O
T
O
H
H
T
Thank
you
andrea.
Does
that
conclude
your
comments?
Yes,
ma'am.
Thank
you.
So
at
this
time,
we'd
like
to
ask
folks
who
do
not
need
spanish
translation
to
go
ahead
and
start
raising
their
hands
and
then
we'll
take
those
folks
and
then
we'll
move
on
to
vietnamese
after
that,
if.
H
Okay,
you
are
oh
okay,
you
are
unmuted,
go
ahead
and
edit
yourself
and
begin
to.
H
K
Everybody
and
I'd
like
everybody
to
know
that
I
am
here
representing
everybody
from
the
flea
market,
I'm
also
representing
everybody
from
the
community,
and
this
is
a
very
sad
thing
that
is
happening
at
this
time
because
for
only
33
offenders
to
come
out
and
be
there,
and
that
is
not
enough
out
of
the
700
that
we
have
only
three
came
out.
The
information
is
false.
K
Information
has
been
given
to
you
is
false,
because
there
was
only
333
vendors
that
were
informed,
not
all
700
and
you
as
commissioners
need
to
do
the
right
thing
and
not
and
vote
against
this
yeah.
You
need
to
take
into
consideration
the
fact
that
commissioners,
such
as
and
she
named
all
a
whole
list
of
commissioners
that
these
commissioners,
I
need
to
know
how
this
affects
everybody.
K
I
mean
people
will
go
out
there
and
try
to
get
their
churros
they'll
try
to
get
all
the
little
things
that
they
come
to
get
there,
but
you
are
gonna
affect
everybody
and
I'm
not
trying
to
speak
for
one
person
or
you
shouldn't
try
to
speak
for
one
person.
But
what
you
need
to
understand
is
that
you
are
the
voice
of
our
community
and
right
now.
K
This
is
a
very
sad
thing,
so
you
need
to
do
the
right
thing
as
the
voice
of
our
community
and
the
reason
that
everybody
is
sad
right
now
is
because
this
is,
you
need
to
put
yourselves
in
our
shoes
where
we
are
in
a
situation
where
we
depend
on
this
business
as
our
source
of
income
to
feed
our
families
or
to
educate
our
daughters
that
are
going
to
school,
and
you
haven't
taken
all
of
that
into
consideration.
So
we
ask
that
you
do
the
right
thing.
H
Thank
you,
okay,
mario,
you
are
unmuted,
go
ahead
and
yourself
and
begin
to
speak.
I
I
K
K
Not
all
of
us
have
the
same
resources
to
be
able
to
simply
just
pick
up
and
go
and
rent
out
another
space
and
start
a
business
all
over
again.
Now,
maybe
some
dude,
not
all
of
us,
do.
If
there
is
a
plan,
then,
if
there
isn't
a
plan,
then
there
should
be
a
plan,
and
what
you
have
to
take
into
consideration
is
the
fact
that
many
immigrants
happen
to
be
here,
because
this
happens
to
be
the
first
job
that
they
fight.
K
As
a
matter
of
fact,
I
happen
to
be
one
of
those
immigrants
that
came
here,
and
this
was
one
of
my
first
jobs
that
eventually
I
decided
to
stay
and
open
up.
My
own
business
visitors
come
here
from
different
states
from
different
cities
from
all
over
the
world.
I
know
because
I'm
the
one
who
receives
them
and
all
I'm
asking
is
that
you
take
us
into
consideration
because
for
a
lot
of
us,
this
is
our
only
source
of
income.
H
Yes,
yes,
will
you
be
needing
translation
or
no.
D
Q
T
Actually,
I
think
that
we're
pretty
much
towards
the
end
of
the
spanish
speaking
folks.
We
did
actually
announce
that
we
could
move
on
to
english.
So,
although
I
am
noticing
some
of
our
previous
speakers
have
from
earlier
during
public
comment
have
raised
their
hands,
but
let's
just
go
ahead
and
keep
going.
M
D
D
I
hope
that
the
planning
commissioners
who
will
be
taking
this
vote
realize
that
this
decision,
if
approved,
will
result
in
over
700
vendors
being
displaced,
that
is
over
a
thousand
san
jose
jobs
and
families
who
will
be
affected.
There
has
been
minimal
outreach
to
our
vendors
and
the
flea
market,
as
an
organization
has
denied
these
claims
of
development.
Yet
here
we
are
reviewing
the
plans.
If
these
plans
are
approved
without
addressing
small
business
displacement,
it
will
be
yet
another
example
of
the
city
of
san
jose's
disregard
for
the
latino
asian
and
immigrant
community.
D
In
our
businesses.
It
is
nothing
short
of
classism
and
racism
like
many
that
grow
up
in
east
san
jose.
I
have
spent
many
summers
and
weekends
going
to
the
berryessa
flea
market
every
year
at
the
start
of
school.
My
mother
would
take
my
brothers
and
I
to
shop
for
school
clothes
at
la
pulga.
The
berryessa
flea
market
is
more
than
just
another
swap
meet
la
pulga
is
a
central
part
of
the
latino
asian
and
immigrant
experience
in
san
jose.
S
D
D
To
include
the
voices
of
the
vendors
and
prepare
specific
language
in
writing
regarding
how
they
will
support
vendors
and
small
businesses.
This
plan,
as
is
only
takes
into
consideration
the
wealthy
pockets
of
developers
and
landowners.
The
history
and
economic
benefits
of
the
berryessa
flea
market
must
be
protected.
Thank
you.
T
Thank
you
so,
at
this
time
we're
going
to
move
the
spanish
interpreter
back
into
the
interpretation
room
and
if
folks
still
need
spanish
interpretation,
we're
going
to
ask
to
wait
until
the
rest
of
the
speakers
have
a
chance
to
go
so
at
this
time
we're
doing
english
only
and
then
once
we
have
so
anyone
who
would
like
to
speak
at
this
time
who
speaks
english.
Please
raise
your
hand
now,
after
that
we
will
do
a
vietnamese.
Then
we
will
move
on
to
chinese
and
then
we'll
finish.
T
If
we
still
have
speakers,
we
understand
that
there
are
still
more
than
200
more
than
150
people
in
this
meeting,
so
we're
gonna
be
here
for
a
while,
and
this
is
our
opportunity
to
hear
from
as
many
people
as
possible.
H
Okay,
I
also
just
wanted
to
let
everyone
know
to
be
mindful
of
the
timer,
because
I
don't
want
to
have
to
cut
anyone
off.
I
hate
doing
that
so
yeah
hugo,
you
are
unmuted,
go
ahead
and
emulate
yourself
when
beginning
to
speak.
D
My
name
is
hugo
mesa
and
I
urge
the
planning
commission
to
not
approve
any
zoning
nor
adopt
any
staff
recommendations
that
would
eventually
demolish
a
flea
market
and
displace
vendors
and
workers.
Many
who
are
only
spanish-speaking
many
who
are
undocumented
and
many
who
depend
on
la
pulga
a.k.a
the
flea
to
support
their
families.
The
presentation
we
heard
tonight.
D
D
Heard
tonight
I
was
born
and
raised
in
san
jose
with
very
humble
beginnings.
I
graduated
just
down
the
street
from
san
jose
high.
I
am
now
a
practicing
attorney,
but
my
first
job
ever
was
at
the
flea
market
as
a
used
video
game
vendor
during
my
early
teens,
just
as
many
young
merchants
do
now,
I
gave
half
my
earnings
to
my
mother
to
keep
a
roof
over
our
head.
As
a
flea
market
worker,
I
developed
a
strong
work
ethic
that
continues
to
serve
me
today.
I
learned
how
to
sell.
I
learned
how
to
negotiate.
D
D
E
You
hear
me:
yes,
we
can
okay,
my
name
is
serena
and
my
family
has
been
in
san
jose
berries
since
the
60s.
This
flea
market
is
an
important
historical
landmark
for
our
city
and
should
be
treated
as
such
and
clearly
it's
very
ridiculous
for
you
to
point
out
the
2000
vote
on
the
bart
station,
when
it
was
clear
that
it
was
at
least
shown
to
us
that
it
was
supposed
to
be
to
stimulate
more
economic
resources
to
the
flea
market.
E
I
think
that
the
bum
family
is
lying
to
people
and
they're
on
social
media,
saying
that
they
won't
be
closing
for
years,
they've
been
saying
that
they
aren't
telling
the
public
nor
the
vendors
and
that
allow
them
to
have
this
money
to
make
this
plan.
They
are
not
being
clear
with
anybody
and
the
commission.
E
I
we
urge
you,
I'm
sorry,
it's
just
very
emotional.
You
can
clearly
see
that
there's
so
many
people
here
who
have
made
a
life
out
of
this
place,
and
it's
almost
that
it's
a
hundred
year
mark
and
you
guys
will
take
it
away
for
more
empty
apartments
and
empty
retail
spaces
and
you're
going
to
displace
these
people
onto
the
street
more
and
more
people
onto
the
street.
E
Nobody
seems
to
care.
You,
commissioners
need
to
do
the
right
thing.
I
don't
care
that
this
is
just
a
proposal
for
a
a
future
retail
and
commercial
space.
The
this
is
to
do
that.
It
is
to
destroy
what
is
there
now.
So
don't
try
to
put
these
words
that
it's
not
going
to
happen
right
now,
it's
just
to
approve
for
a
later
time,
you've
shown
in
the
timeline
that
this
is
what
you
want
to
do
so
stop
lying
to
the
public
and
to
the
vendors
and
the
people.
E
H
Thank
you
serena.
Next,
we
have
sj
native.
If
you
want
to
state
your
name
for
the
record,
you
are
unmuted.
D
I
just
like
to
say
I
think
this
is
not
right,
because,
honestly,
I'm
just
finding
out
about
this
now
there
has
not
been
enough
information
out
there
for
the
people
to
actually
know.
What's
going
on,
you
guys
make
it
sound
like
oh
yeah,
it's
gonna
be
a
great
place
great
place.
It
already.
Is
you
guys
just
wanna?
You
know
what
we
already
got
and
supposedly
you're
making
more
jobs
more
residents,
but
for
who
that
ain't
gonna
be
for
us.
That's
gonna
be
too
expensive
for
everyone
else.
D
So
it's
just
all
you
know
messed
up.
You
guys
should
actually
let
more
people
know
about
this,
make
it
more
public
than
it
supposedly
is
like.
I
said
I
just
found
out
about
this,
not
even
that
recently
and
it's
just
messed
up,
especially
to
the
people
that
have
been
working
there
most
of
their
lives.
D
I
mean
my
some
of
my
family
been
working
there
and
it's
like
one
of
the
best
places
to
be,
but
you
guys
are
just
trying
to
get
rid
of
it,
make
it
harder
for
the
people
that
are
trying
to
make
a
living
decently,
but
you're
gonna
just
kick
them
out,
and
then
what
I
haven't
heard
anything
about.
Oh
yeah.
This
is
the
spot.
We're
gonna
put
them
in
supposedly
there's
been
planning
it,
but
I
never
heard
nothing
and
they
they
haven't
even
said
anything.
D
L
Hi
jeffrey
buchanan,
on
behalf
of
working
partnerships,
usa,.
G
G
Some
of
the
comments
that
you've
heard
from
from
other
speakers
in
terms
of
the
the
vendors
association,
I
think
it's
important
for
you
as
commissioners
to
think
about
the
decisions
before
you,
the
the
specific
requests
for
planning
and
zoning
amendments
before
you
will
significantly
increase
the
value
of
this
property.
G
Not
only
has
the
the
public
contribution,
including
you
know,
sales
tax
raised
by
the
very
vendors
that
you're
hearing
speak
before
you
today
contributed
to
a
you
know,
multi-billion
dollar
infrastructure
investment
that
this
property
and
these
property
owners
will
will
benefit
handily
from
the
public's
investments,
but
the
request
to
add
3
million
square
feet
of
commercial
office
space
with
the
intent
to
try
to
lure
a
big
tech
company
to
this
property
means
that
there
is
enormous
value
that
the
public's
decisions
to
consider
up
zoning
will
bring
without
any
kind
of
value
capture.
G
I
think
the
vendors,
what
they're
talking
about
in
terms
of
asking
for
some
kind
of
community
benefits
agreement,
trying
to
negotiate
out
ways
that
we
could
recreate
the
flea
market.
I
wouldn't
want
to
speak
for
them
on
the
different
opportunities
here,
but
I
think,
as
commissioners
and
thinking
about
what
you're
doing
to
ensure
the
the
public
good
is
met
in
considerations
around
this
upzoning
request.
We
need
to
be
able
to
have
some
kind
of
public
policy.
That's
capturing
the
value
of
all
these
changes.
I
think
we
have
good
examples.
G
Look
at
the
downtown
west
agreement
where
you've
had
a
significant
commitment.
Similarly
to
this
project
of
a
big
up
zoning
near
a
bart
station
to
a
community
benefits
plan,
I
would
really
encourage
commissioners
to
consider
pausing
supporting
this
until
some
kind
of
negotiation
could
be
met
around
a
value
capture
tool
that
can
meet
the
needs
of
the
community.
H
Sorry,
your
time
is
up
fatima,
you
are
unmuted,
go
ahead
and
unmute
yourself
and
begin
to
speak
hi.
My
name
is
fatima
ortega,
I'm
a
resident
of
san
jose
california,
my
first
job
was
actually
at
the
flea
market.
I
worked
there
for
most
of
my
teenage
years.
Up
until
I
was
able
to
actually
obtain
a
job,
I've
actually
moved
up
the
ladder,
and
I
work
at
stanford
now,
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
these
stories
for
these
vendors
don't
resonate
within
me.
H
I
know
this
is
their
livelihood
and
it
saddens
me
that
you
guys
are
being
so
heartless,
don't
even
consider
what
their
lives
will
be
like
after
they're
displaced.
You
owe
them
in
the
very
least,
to
find
them
a
new
location
for
them
to
sell.
You
call
this
urbanization,
I
call
this
colonization
and
this
is
not
a
threat.
This
is
a
promise.
We
are
organizing
and
we
will
do
something
about
this.
You
owe
these
vendors,
a
new
location.
H
H
This
is
all
you
know,
rumors
going
around
and
now
you're
saying
this
information
has
been
out
for
years
since,
when,
like
that
earlier
one
of
the
spanish-speaking
person
said
there
was
33
vendors
who
actually
attended
one
meeting
out
of
700
people
who
work
there,
who
are
there
every
weekend.
Are
you
kidding
me?
How
is
this
transparency?
How
did
they
not
even
know?
Are
you
kidding
me?
You
guys
owe
them
in
the
very
least,
a
new
location,
and
you
guys
need
to
be
transparent.
H
There's
no
way
you
guys
are
gonna
get
through
with
you
know,
constructing
your
your
new
location
and
these
people.
You
know
it's
sad.
How
can
there's
latinos
in
your
in
your
little
group
there
you
guys
as
latinos,
need
to
stand
together
and
need
to
speak
up
for
these
vendors?
What
are
you
doing?
H
Thank
you
that
thunder,
you
are
unmuted,
go
ahead
and
unmute
yourself
and
begin
to
speak.
S
Apologies
for
the
lack
of
formalities.
Two
minutes
is
not
enough
time
to
express
everything
for
such
an
important
thing.
The
planning
commission
has
a
duty
to
themselves
in
planning
to
acknowledge
that
the
planning
has
not
been
done
properly
here.
This
has
been
creeped
for
years.
I
built
a
house
over
in
this
area
over
15
years
ago,
and
everything
keeps
getting
rezoned
and
expanding,
bigger
and
bigger.
The
bar
is
failing.
S
Today
the
bar
got
247
million
dollars
because
they've
run
paying
people
overtime
with
empty
trains
through
the
pandemic,
while
everybody
else
is
struggling
to
work
and
survive,
and
then
we
talk
about
bringing
jobs
to
the
city.
While
we
shut
down
people's
jobs
to
what
build
housing,
the
retail
on
the
other
side
of
berryessa
is
still
empty
right
now,
so
you're
going
to
take
retail
away,
while
other
retail
sits
empty.
S
This
needs
to
be
delayed.
You
cannot
approve
this
you.
I
invite
you
to
come
to
my
neighborhood
on
ceremony
court
and
walk
around
with
me
socially
distance
and
look
at
what's
going
on
with
the
vta
and
the
part
here
and
see.
What's
been
mismanaged,
we
shouldn't
be
bailing
out
the
bar.
The
government
is
you're
already
asking
for
more
tax
money.
The
water
companies
jacking
up
bills.
Again,
they
don't
have
enough
water.
S
Coming
to
this
area
and
you're
gonna
build
huge
buildings,
where's
the
water
coming
from
narnia,
it's
gonna
come
from
our
pockets,
then
more
and
more
people
leave
businesses
aren't
going
to
come
down
here
as
you
raise
and
raise
more
taxes,
people
won't
be
able
to
afford
here,
no
matter
how
much
housing
you
build.
It's
irresponsible.
S
It
is
not
properly
thinking
long
term.
My
heart
breaks
for
these
vendors
and
everybody
else
that's
going
through
this.
There
is
not
enough
due
diligence,
I
don't
not
support
the
development,
but
it
is
creeping
too
far
and
then
waving
the
fees
on
top
of
it
absolutely
spitting
in
the
face
of
us
residents.
S
H
Thank
you
m
ortiz,
oh
okay,
they
have
an
older
version
of
zoom.
It
says
I
have
to
promote
them.
To
panelists.
To
be
able
to
talk
is
that,
okay
with
you
chair,
yes,
okay
mrtz
will
be
rejoining
as
a
panelist.
D
All
right,
as
a
taxpayer,
a
homeowner
and
a
community
member
for
35
years.
I
would
like
to
ask
for
this
vote
to
be
postponed
so
that
banners
can
be
notified
and
receive
support
for
displacement.
Many
families
are
economically
dependent
on
the
barriers
of
flea
market
if
it
is
not.
If
this
motion
passes
without
the
consideration
of
these
valued
community
members,
it
will
have
negative
effects
on
the
east
side
and
berryessa
community
residents.
D
Remember
that
as
officials
you
guys
represent
us
in
the
community.
I
know
that
you
are
appointed
on
the
on
this
on
this
board,
but
your
votes
will
be
holy.
We're
going
to
hold
you
accountable
for
what
you
pass
and
what
you
don't
pass.
I
do
not
think
it's
proper
to
pass
a
judgment
and
make
decisions
for
people
that
do
not
live
in
this
community
and
not
bring
in
economic
value
and
protect
the
community
members.
D
H
Thank
you,
brenda.
You
are
unmuted,
go
ahead
and
unmute
yourself
and
begin
to
speak
hi.
My
name
is
brenda
sandejas.
I
am
the
vice
chair
of
moby
mental
demographical.
I
call
today
to
stand
in
solidarity
with
all
vendors
will
be
affected
and
displaced.
I
call
on
you
who
have
to
make
this
vote
to
postpone
and
have
a
solution
where
our
vendors,
our
vendors,
will
relocate.
H
We
owe
it
to
them.
I
understand
that
we
want
nice
buildings
and
we
want
to
have
this
nice
urban
village
built
there,
but
don't
erase
our
culture
so
easy,
put
up
a
fight
for
our
community
to
be
an
effective
leader.
You
need
to
have
communication,
transparency
and
accountability,
and
these
are
three
things
I
do
not
see
today.
H
H
D
D
There
seems
to
be
some
mysterious
reason
why
san
jose
can't
encourage
housing
production.
The
way
that
seattle
and
denver
and
boston
do
I'm.
I
spent
20
years
in
boston
and
if
the
jobs,
housing
imbalance
is
a
problem
here.
I
think
that
the
chat
it's
the
duty
of
the
san
jose
government
to
ask
for
help
from
the
state
like
localities
do
in
massachusetts,
where
I
spent
time
before
so
more
housing,
more
density
and
ask
help
from
the
state
I
yield
the
rest
of
my
time.
H
D
It
hold
on
yeah,
my
name
is
salvador
and
I
am
affiliated
with
latinos
united
for
a
new
america,
also
known
as
luna.
Luna
is
a
grassroots
organization
working
with
immigrant
families
in
east
san
jose
to
improve
the
quality
of
life
of
our
people
and
their
children.
D
I
was
watching
mrs
gomez
presentation
and
I
could
not
help
myself
but
be
impressed
by
the
lovely
pictures
and
drawings
of
the
proposed
development.
I
must
admit
that
it
is
a
beautiful
project.
However,
the
pictures
are
missing
something
very
important
and
that
something
is
the
more
than
700
vendors
that
will
be
displaced
from
the
place
where
they
had
been
making
a
living
for
up
to
four
decades
in
some
cases.
D
I
recently
watched
a
video
in
which
mr
schoenhauer
was
you
know
saying
that
all
this
was
were
rumors
and
that
their
goal
was
to
keep
operating
the
flea
market.
So
I
challenged
him
tonight
to
tell
us
concretely
what
are
they
doing
to
guarantee
that
the
market
will
continue
to
operate
in
the
future?
Thank
you.
D
Good
evening,
my
name
is
gabriel
manrique,
also
part
of
luna
and
I'm
a
resident
of
san
jose.
I'm
calling
because
I
do
not
want
the
flea
market
to
beat
this
place.
I
have
many
lovely
memories
of
the
at
the
flea
market
growing
up
in
san
jose,
my
siblings,
and
I
always
look
forward
to
our
trips
on
sundays
to
the
flea
market
with
our
parents.
D
The
flea
market
is
a
place
where
families,
where
many
families
and
friends
come
together
to
spend
time
the
flu
makers
the
place
where
many
of
my
friends
also
had
their
first
job.
The
flea
market
is
part
of
the
history
of
san
jose
and,
unfortunately,
the
commission
and
the
city
wants
to
erase
that
history.
I
used
the
commission
to
recommend
the
nautilus
circus
on
both
agenda
items
related
to
the
flea
market
land
today
and
to
respect
the
demands
from
the
vendors
of
being
incorporated
into
the
plans.
Vendors
need
to
have
a
voice.
Thank
you.
I
Thank
you
I
I
spoke
already,
but
I
just
wanted
to
to
ask
that
my
the
translation
was
not
complete.
That
was
my.
H
H
Thank
you.
It's
good
to
know.
Okay
matt,
you
are
unmuted,
go
ahead
and
unmute
yourself
and
begin
to
speak.
D
Council
and
our
350
members
you're
in
a
pretty
unenviable
position
this
evening.
Adaptive,
reuse
and
urban
redevelopment
is
not
an
easy
task,
but
it's.
K
D
D
But
it
does
come
with
some
costs
as
you're
hearing
tonight,
and
these
are
the
challenges
we
have
to
address
and
I
would
urge
you
to
move
forward
with
the
project
to
to
to
to
take
the
staff's
advice
and
move
forward
with
the
project
and.
T
Evening,
everyone,
my
name,
is
alma.
I
am
a
vendor.
H
At
the
flea
market,
I
am
part
of
the
second
generation
over
there
and
I
am
really
in
disagreement
with
these
plans,
especially
because
I've
been
hearing
since
the
beginning
of
the
of
this
meeting
that
the
owner
keep
mentioning
that
the
plan
has
been
already
approved
and
approved
for
whenever
he
wants
to
continue
talking
and,
however
us
we
have
had
misleading
information.
H
Just
on
may
17
on
the
official
facebook
flea
market
page,
it
was
a
post
that
it
says
that
it
won't
be
closing,
and
now
it
says
that
it
will
closed,
is
really
annoying
and
disrespectful
to
all
the
people
that
are
there,
because
there
is
families
over
there.
There
is
not.
They
are
saying
that
they
want
to
build.
They
have
two
projects,
and
it's
like
there
is
no
one
there.
There
is
not
an
empty
space
is
a
space
with
families
that
are
making
a
living
out
of
the
flea
market.
H
You
need
to
think
of
that,
and
I
really
urge
all
the
commissioners
to
vote,
to
postpone
this
project
to
investigate
what
is
going
on,
and
I
really
need
someone
to
tell
us
what
name
who's
the
person
who
we
need
to
talk
to
that
they
can
help
us,
because
we
need
help.
We,
the
information,
has
been
know
the
good
information.
H
We
really
need
your
support
and
I
really
don't
know
why.
The
people
who
is
always
the
most
needed
is
the
people
who
is
most
the
most
affected,
why
there
is
already
a
place
where
people
have
jobs.
This
one
is
just
erasing
us
from
the
map
in
bringing
who
please,
I
just
want
to
say,
help
us
and
think
of
us.
L
D
H
T
So
my
name
is
devin.
Gonzalez
I've
been
a
resident
for
over
25
years.
The
flea
market
means
to
me
a
lot
more.
So
since
I
was
a
child,
it's
a
memory
that
I
cherish,
because
I
would
always
go
with
my
parents
and
I'm
getting
nervous.
I
remember
that
my
dad
would
always
buy
me
one
of
the
different
types
of
bubble,
wands
that
are
still
a
child
favorite
to
this
day
and.
H
As
I
grew
older,
I
still
continue
to
go
to
the
flea
market
on
the
weekends,
with
my
friends
who
also
love
the
flea
market
and
would
hate
to
see
it
be
gone.
I
believe
that
if
the
flea
market
and
the
vendors
are
displaced,
san
jose
wouldn't
be
san
jose
anymore.
H
H
H
Can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
we
can
okay.
Thank
you,
hi
everyone.
My
name
is
caitlin
meyer.
I
want
to
thank
you
for
your
time.
I
know
it's
been
a
long
night
yeah.
I
just
wanted
to
say
I
think
we
can
all
agree.
It's
really
clear
that
more
communication
and
involvement
from
the
vendors
needs
to
take
place,
considering
the
amount
of
people
that
are
here
tonight
and
the
lack
of
understanding
by
so
many
of
the
vendors.
H
I
also
just
want
to
mention
outright
deception
on
social
media
by
the
official
flea
market
page
saying
it
won't
be
closing
when
we
just
saw
the
new
plans
tonight,
which
don't
appear
to
include
the
flea
market
in
them
and
that
just
kind
of
makes
me
wonder
what
the
little
bit
of
communication
with
the
vendors
actually
was.
You
know,
were
they
giving
decepting
information
to
it?
Kind
of
seems
like
it
was
more
of
an
attempt
to
silence
people
and
again
reiterates
the
lack
of
clarity
and
communicating
this
project.
H
So
I
just
want
to
ask
you
to
include
the
perspectives
of
the
vendors,
as
they
will
be
the
most
impacted
by
this,
and
just
like
really
think
about
the
fact
that
they're,
they
are
real
people,
and
this
is
like
their
entire
livelihood.
You
know
it's
not
all
about
these
greater
goals.
You
know
we
talk
about
climate
change,
which
is
something
I
care
a
lot
about
too,
but
a
big
part
of
that
comes
down
to
displacement
of
people
and
in
our
efforts
to
combat
climate
change.
H
H
Hello,
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
we
can
okay
good
evening,
everyone.
My
name
is
amada.
I
am
the
daughter
of
rigoberto
who
sells
at
the
barriers
of
flea
market.
I
am
the
second
generation
who
is
working
at
my
dad's
small
business.
My
dream
is
to
have
my
children
take
over
the
family
business
one
day
in
regards
to
flea
market
closing.
We
do
not
want
to
be
displaced.
H
We
as
minorities,
hispanics,
asians,
indians,
middle
eastern
guatemalans
do
not
want
to
be
forgotten,
it
will
be.
It
will
not
be
as
easy
for
most
of
the
vendors
who
don't
speak
english
fluently
to
get
to
get
a
quote-unquote
regular
job
as
it
would
be
for
you
and
I
who
understand
and
speak
the
english
language
with
ease
what
we
want
and
demand
is
to
be
included
in
their
plans.
We
want
to
feel
at
ease
each
year
that
comes
and
not
fear
it.
As
this
might
be
the
year
we
get
a
notice.
H
H
Every
time
you
go
out
and
you
see
a
street
vendor,
will
you
remember
those
vendors
at
the
flea
market,
those
who
contributed
to
your
wealth
and
gave
your
children
and
your
grandchildren
the
education
they
couldn't
afford
to
give
their
own?
Will
you
remember
us,
don't
destroy
our
culture,
don't
take
away
from
our
families.
H
Give
us
a
chance
include
us
in
the
development.
We
will
not
fail.
You
we
haven't
failed
you
in
the
past
50
plus
years.
We
will
not
start
now.
The
very
least
we
ask
for
it
is
to
relocate
us.
Let
us
thrive,
if
not
with
you,
then
elsewhere.
We
are
a
family.
Give
us
something
in
writing.
Most
of
all
give
us
our
peace
of
mind
and
hope
back.
D
D
D
A
lot
of
us
have
two
or
three
or
four
employees
that
they're,
depending
on
us,
so
you're,
really
including
about
almost
2
800
workers
alone
at
the
flea
market.
That
is
actually
a
diverse
community,
one
by
diverse
you
have
everywhere
from
filipinos
chinese,
vietnamese,
south
american,
central
america,
north
american
people,
it's
a
diverse
location,
and
it's
really
saddening
to
see
that
the
commissioners
here
are
not
willing
to
salvage
something
that
should
be
considered
as
a
historical
location.
D
It
is
one
of
the
top
11
things
to
do
in
san
jose
when
you're
going
through
a
google
search
out
time,
vacation
idea
trips
when
you
punch
in
san
jose.
This
should
be
one
of
the
heart
of
fundamentals
that
the
commissioners
should
be
saving,
because
this
is
the
only
one
where
we
are
diverse
in
you.
Do
not
see
this
in
centennial
row.
You
do
not
see
this
in
at
the
malls.
You
do
not
see
anything
of
this
sort.
D
You
have
people
that
come
from
los
banos
sacramento
outside
from
san
jose
from
different
regions,
just
to
come
shop
at
the
flea
market.
Have
any
of
your
commissioners
have
even
gone
there
to
actually
be
there
with
your
family
on
the
sunday
to
see
how
diverse
and
how
growing
this
place
is.
I
thank
you
so
much
for
your
guys
time
for
listening
us
hearing
our
concern,
but
we
need
more
transparency.
T
Danielle
before
we
move
to
the
next
person
so
right
now
I
have
roberto
as
the
last
person
who's
raised
their
hand.
That
will
be
the
our
last
in
english
speaker,
okay,
so
we're
not
at
this
is
our
okay,
juan
carlos
is
our
last
speaker
for
english.
After
juan
carlos,
we
will
move
to
vietnamese.
We
will
not
take
any
further
comments,
so
it
looks
like
some
folks
have
lowered
their
hands,
but
we
have
23
people
with
race.
T
Now,
if
you
need
vietnamese
translation,
please
start
to
raise
your
hand,
and
it
will
be
after.
T
H
Okay,
kayla,
you
are
unmuted,
go
ahead
and
admit
yourself
and
begin
to
speak.
E
Okay,
so
hi,
I
am
kayla
scobedo
a
sunset
resident.
I've
helped
my
parents
at
the
flea
market
for
about
10
plus
years.
They
have
owned
their
businesses
for
about
20
plus
years.
Their
businesses
began
as
a
side
job
for
them
and
have
now
become
their
only
source
of
income
through
their
businesses.
They
have
been
able
not
just
to
provide
for
me
and
my
five
siblings,
but
have
also
been
able
to
send
us
to
college.
We
reside
in
the
east
side
where
resources
are
limited
and
we
continue
to
face
adversities.
E
So
I
am
very
thankful
for
the
opportunities
my
parents
found
in
the
flea
market.
I
also
have
to
thank
the
flea
market
for
my
social
skills,
my
knowledge
of
finances
and
how
certain
businesses
run.
I
consider
that
flea
market,
my
second
home
if
the
flea
market
closes
it,
will
leave
my
parents
without
a
job.
I
know
my
story
is
not
unique
and
I
hope
that
these
opportunities
are
further
offered
to
future
generations.
E
The
presentation
given
from
the
staff
and
eric
was
great,
but
it
lacked
the
inclusivity
of
the
market
and
the
vendors
who
are
currently
in
that
space.
We
have
the
right
as
residents
to
know
what,
where
how
we
fit
in
the
plan
and
not
what
the
property
will
look
like
after
we
are
gone.
This
is
why
I
urge
the
planning
commission
to
vote.
No,
this
plan
needs
to
be
further
developed
where
the
market
and
the
700
plus
vendors
are
included.
E
There
has
to
be
better
outreach
because,
as
you
witnessed
earlier
in
the
meeting,
the
vendors
and
community
members
were
not
and
are
not
aware
of
the
process
of
this
project,
making
any
decisions
without
taking
into
consideration
the
people
directly
impacted
is
not
permissible.
San
jose
prides
itself
saying
that
we
are
a
city
that
supports
small
businesses,
we're
here.
Well,
there
is
sorry
where
here
is
your
opportunity
to
shine,
so
I
have
a
little
bit
of
time.
In
addition,
I
do
not
agree
of
the
benefits
of
the
project.
E
They
do
not
outweigh
the
displayment
of
the
700
plus
vendors
and
families.
To
comment
on
what
matt
had
initially
previously
commented
in
regards
to
affordable
housing.
The
current
house
is
right
now
built
on
the
property
where
it
used
to
be
a
parking
spot.
Our
houses
for
one
point
like
I
think,
the
cheapest
one
is
like
1
million
nobody,
that's
not
affordable
housing.
So,
if
that's,
why
you
support
this?
Definitely
not
not.
It
doesn't
weigh
that
displacement.
Thank
you.
D
D
The
great
majority
of
these
vendors
are
immigrant
and
minority
owned,
small
businesses
that
have
been
disproportionately
devastated
by
the
corona
buyers
pandemic.
These
small
businesses
represent
our
community
and
our
culture.
We
must
do
everything
in
our
power
to
protect
them.
It
is
also
very
important
that
the
vendors
are
included
in
this
process.
D
If
they're,
if
they
are
not
at
the
table,
then
they
will
be
on
the
menu
honorable
planning.
Commissioners,
you
have
the
opportunity
to
do
the
right
thing
and
the
right
thing
is
to
postpone
this
vote
and
request
better
outreach,
given
specifically
to
vendors
and
a
specific
language
to
be
included
in
these
plans.
In
regards
to
how
the
landlords
will
be
addressing
the
potential
displacement
of
over
700
small
businesses
and
thousands
of
jobs
and
families,
thank.
H
H
E
Everyone,
my
name
is
kailyn
and
I
have
been
in
the
flea
market
for
I'm,
helping
my
parents
for
over
10
years
now
they
have
been
in
the
business
for
over
20
years.
E
E
E
This
is
something
that,
as
a
vendor,
I
do
not
feel
like
it's
enough.
Is
this
really
everything
the
city
and
the
developments
can
do
for
us?
I
urge
you
to
recommend
the
denial
of
the
development
and
to
to
have
substantive
change
done
to
both
the
process
and
outcomes
of
the
plants.
Moving
forward,
make
sure
these
relocation
plans
that
have
been
mentioned
are
specifically
on
paper
and
not
just
words
that
go
away
like
air.
E
I
urge
you
that
you,
you
guys,
include
a
commission
robust
economic
analysts
that
include
both
direct
and
indirect
economic
impacts
as
well.
E
H
E
J
Yes,
okay,
so
firstly,
I
just
wanted
to
touch
base.
I
am
not
from
the
san
jose
area,
I'm
from
hayward
a
little
far
out
my
family
and
I
we
have
been
coming
to
the
flea
market
for.
E
H
J
Screen
for
the
countdown
previously
screenings
of
other
people's
people
on
the
commission,
like
their
face.
J
Even
when
someone
is
sharing
the
screen,
I
can
still
see
everybody
right
now.
I
don't
see
the
commission's
faces
and
I
think
that
is
a
huge
problem,
because
I
think
someone
else
mentioned
we
can't
tell
if
somebody
else
is
on
their
phone.
We
can't
know
if
people
are
actually
taking
into
this,
because
what
is
happening
now
is
truly
disrespectful
and
honestly,
it's
heartbreaking.
Like
so
many
people
said
yeah,
some
people
will
be
affected
more
than
others.
J
H
H
Sorry,
I
was
muted
maria,
you
are
unneeded,
go
ahead
and
mute
yourself
and
begin
to
speak.
Yes,.
E
So
I
just
wanted
to
touch
upon
a
point
that
was
made
there
by
the
project
manager
gomez.
She
mentioned
that
information
was
dispersed
via
phablets
that
were
placed
on
households
on
the
handles.
First
and
foremost,
a
lot
of
the
vendors
are
monolingual,
and
so
I
think
it's
very
important
to
be
transparent
about
the
way
the
information
was
dispersed
about
this
zoning
project
and
also
to
the
speakers,
vince,
rocha
and
matt
reagan
who
expressed
support
for
this
rezoning
project.
E
Just
so
that
you're
aware
and
here
in
san
jose
average
cost
of
a
home
is
nine
hundred
thousand
dollars
most
likely
the
vendors
average
salaries
thirty
to
fifty
thousand
dollars
a
year.
My
pretty
sure
you
can
do
the
math
doesn't
really
work
out
so
in
terms
of
the
arguments
and
support
of
this
project
being
affordable
housing,
it's
flat
out
just
false
information
and
also
to
the
owner
of
the
flea
market.
E
You
know
it's
a
huge,
huge,
huge
irresponsibility
to
be
spreading
false
information
to
the
vendors
and
let
it
be
known
to
all
the
vendors.
You
have
an
entire
community
here
to
support
you.
We
are
here
to
fight
for
you.
We
will
organize
and
to
all
the
planning
commission,
let
it
be
known
as
well.
We
will
vote
out
the
people
who
appointed
you
and
we
will
hold
you
accountable.
I
yield
the
rest
of
my
tank.
D
Thank
you.
I
I
I
have
two
minutes
to
describe
what
the
flea
market
is.
It's
been
for
me,
my
family,
and
for
the
family
of
700
plus
people.
I
can
tell
you
this.
It
has
been
everything
I
am
really
sad,
I'm
I'm
destroyed
and
I'm
to
be
honest,
I'm
really
scared.
D
If
the
flea
market
closes,
I
I
I
can
only
think
about
what
the
family
of
these
hundreds
people
will
be
in
tremendous,
economical
trouble
and
and
and
nobody
nobody
should
beg
for
anything
in
the
city
of
san
jose,
but
I
beg
you
to
reconsider,
closing
the
flea
market.
This
is
the
only
way
these
people
can
bring
food
to
their
table
and
bring
education
to
our
sons,
and
we
can
pay
a
rent,
and
this
is
the
only
way
please.
I
beg
you
to
reconsider,
doing
this.
It's
it's.
It's
not
humane.
S
Good
evening,
commissioners,
this
is
alex
shore
executive
director
of
catalyze
sv.
I
hope
you
had
a
chance
to
look
at
the
letters
that
some
of
our
members
and
supporters
sent
you
over
the
last
week.
Sorry,
some
of
them
came
in
even
today,
but
their
message
was
clear.
Our
members
are
asking
for
four
things
from
you
all
tonight.
S
One
is
to
increase
the
building
heights
to
number
two:
make
sure
that
there
are
enough
homes
on
the
site
number
three
to
not
have
parking
minimums,
I'm
sorry
to
have
parking,
maximums
and
number
four,
the
preservation
of
the
flea
market.
The
way
we
talk
about
the
preservation
of
the
flea
market
is
the
recreation.
S
So
if
commissioners
are
looking
for
a
way
to
support
this
development
and
support
the
flea
market's
700
vendors,
perhaps
there's
a
way
to
recreate
some
of
that
on
site
staff.
Today
showed
you
an
illustration
of
a
I
believe
they
called
an
esplanade,
but
that
esplanade,
which
is
a
public
open
space,
didn't
have
any
space
for
market
vendors
and
on
a
site,
this
big
there
is
absolutely
an
opportunity
to
put
a
flea
market
on
this
site.
This
is
perhaps
the
most
important
development
site
in
all
of
san
jose,
except
for
maybe
downtown
west.
S
S
I'll
leave
you
with
this
thought.
If
there
were
700
business
owners
along
lincoln
avenue
and
willa
glenn
that
had
a
year
left
to
relocate
without
any
location
that
they
knew
of
how
much
uproar
would
there
be
in
the
city
of
san
jose?
Please
support
equity
for
vendors
and
for
the
next
generation
of
san
jose.
H
Thank
you
why
you
are
unmuted,
go
ahead
and
admit
yourself
and
begin
to
speak.
D
Hello,
commissioners,
I've
been
listening
to
tonight's
comments
and
I
just
want
to
encourage
the
commission
to
please
reconsider
moving
forward
with
the
rezoning.
It's
obvious
that
the
planning
has
not
been
very
transparent.
D
I
received
a
letter
as
well
from
the
barry
sflee
market
vendors
association
and
I
wanted
to
sort
of
state
that
for
public
record
to
make
sure
that
this
has
been
I'm
assuming
delivered
to
the
mayor,
the
council
and
the
san
jose
planning,
commissioners,
caballero
bonilla,
casey,
garcia,
landon,
landinos,
oliveira
and
torrance.
D
D
So
I
can
very
much
relate
with
with
what
they're
going
through.
I
also
wanted
to
share
that.
You
know
very
much
that
the
flea
market
is
probably
the
only
thing
valuable
in
terms
of
recognition
for
san
jose
as
small
as
it
might
seem.
We
don't
have
a
bay
bridge,
we
have
a
lake
absorbitory
and
we
have
a
lot
of
concrete
downtown
with
a
lot
of
empty
glass
windows.
D
So
I
I
just
want
to
encourage
this
commission
to
reconsider
the
value
of
what
this
diverse
community
really
brings
to
the
city
of
san
jose,
and
it
would
be
completely
erasing
one
just
a
culture
that
some
of
us
actually
only
explore.
I
do
not
go
to
the
malls.
I
do
not
go
to
any
of
the
pretentious
things
that
are
in
santana
row.
No
offense,
I
love
the
flea
market.
It
would
sadden
me
to
see
it
go,
please
reconsider
and
save
it.
Thank
you.
S
Great
good
evening,
commissioners,
staff
and
community,
my
name
is
chris
lepe,
I'm
a
30-year
resident
of
santa
clara
county
and
someone
who
has
many
fond
memories
at
the
flea
market
and
I've
developed
close
relationships
with
many
of
the
vendors
there.
Today,
I've
heard
some
people
effectively
downplaying
the
importance
of
today's
vote,
saying
that
this
is
really
only
about
increasing
density
and
that
this
has
been
going
on
over
20
years
or
for
about
20
years,
implying
that
we
have
missed
the
boat
and
that
nothing
can
be
done
to
help
these
families.
S
Well,
that
was
the
excuse
in
2007
and
back
then
the
decision
makers
could
have
done
something,
but
they
did
not.
So
yes,
it's
been
20
years,
20
years
of
the
community,
raising
concerns
about
the
lack
of
meaningful
engagement
and
partnership
with
the
vendors
of
the
flea
market
and
20
years
of
calls
to
do
something
20
years
without
a
meaningful
plan
to
help
these
families,
let's
not
continue
to
make
the
same
mistakes
of
the
past.
S
S
To
not
just
do
the
minimum
that's
required,
but
to
do
the
right
thing
and
to
protect
these
families,
and
this
can
include,
for
example,
further
study
of
the
potential
policies
to
be
incorporated,
as
part
of
the
plan
require
a
thorough
economic
analysis
require
future
entitlements
to
have
a
development
agreement
that
sets
in
place
the
ways
that
the
flea
market
can
be
incorporated
or
relocated
and
other
potential
requirements
to
ensure
a
smooth
transition.
I
want
to
end
with
this
question:
do
you,
as
a
commissioner
feel
that
this
plan
is
complete?
S
Do
you
think
that
the
adoption
of
the
planning
project
in
its
current
form
is
worth
putting
these
thousands
of
families
out
of
work?
I
believe
we
can
do
better.
We
don't
have
to
sacrifice
the
vendors
to
reach
your
climate
and
housing
and
economic
development
goals.
We
can
do
both
we
can
develop
without
displacement.
Thank
you.
E
E
I
strongly
value
the
flea
market,
as
was
a
cultural
cup
and
just
a
place
where
my
family
always
used
to
go
to
and
could
rely
on
throughout
my
life.
My
my
parents,
first
immigrated
here
working
at
the
flea
market,
was
an
essential
part
of
our
lives
being
the
first
place
where
they
sought
employment
and
could
could
connect
with
other
people
in
the
community
to
this
day
remains
a
central
part
of
a
community
for
the
many
black
indigenous
people
of
color
in
the
east
side.
Community.
E
E
We
need
you
to
stick
up
for
the
community
and
do
your
job
as
needed.
That
means
listening
to
the
youth
listening
to
the
families
and
listening
to
the
community.
I
have
high
expectations
for
where
this
will
take
our
place
and
what
what
this
commission
will
do
in
terms
of
protecting
our
community
and
stopping
gentrification.
E
H
Thank
you
myra.
You
are
unmuted.
H
Hello,
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
we
can.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Everybody
hello.
My
name
is
mara
pelagio
and
I
am
the
executive
director
of
luna
latinos
united
foreign
america,
and
my
very
first
job
was
a
display
market.
As
a
freshman
in
high
school
and
a
daughter
of
a
single
mother,
I
needed
to
find
ways
to
help
my
family.
Financially.
H
I
worked
at
the
flower,
stand
during
the
weekends,
where
I
met
people
from
all
over
the
state
that
came
to
visit
the
very
famous
flea
market,
as
it
is
mentioned
in
the
eir.
The
development
of
this
site
will
have
a
significant
unavoidable
cultural
impact,
as
the
flea
market
is
an
important
landmark
to
the
city
of
san
jose.
H
H
We
urge
the
commission
to
recommend
denial
to
the
city
council
on
both
agenda
items
related
to
the
flea
market
land
today
and
to
recommend
directing
city
staff
and
resources
to
identify
and
commit
to
policies,
strategies
and
actions
to
address
your
concerns,
our
concerns,
thank
you
so
much.
I
yield
my
time.
H
Thank
you.
Next
is
gabby
gabby.
You
are
unmuted,
go
ahead
and
unmute
yourself
good
evening.
This
is
gabby
again,
I'm
a
long
time
volunteer
with
catalyze
sv,
and
I
am
voting
to
postpone
this
project.
I
I
really
think
that
the
developers
and
the
commissioners
should
take
a
deeper
look
at
the
benefits
of
public
markets
from
a
global
perspective,
specifically
multi-level
public
markets.
H
I
don't
see
any
reason
why
the
flea
market
cannot
be
integrated
into
the
plan
and
become
a
selling
point
and
a
destination
for
the
the
urban
village.
I
I
think
it's
it's
a
it's
a
place
where
people
could
come,
you
know
from
their
apartments
and
go
downstairs
and
buy
their
fruit,
buy
their
stereos,
buy
their
candy
and
mix
with,
or
you
know,
just
live
mix
around
with
people
from
different
backgrounds
and
yeah.
I
think,
like
I
said,
take
a
deeper
look
at
the
importance
of
public
markets.
D
Yes,
I
would
just
like
to
offer
the
proposition
that
there
should
be
equal
access
and
programs
like
the
one
I
attended,
as
a
team
called
the
work
experience
program
that
should
have
incentives
for
entrepreneurs
who
are
providing
access
to
fresh
fruit
for
the
community
instead
of
unhealthy
preserve.
You
know
what
I
mean
bad
bad
foods.
There
should
be.
There
should
be
programs
being
put
into
the
works
to
educate
people
and
incentivize
people
to
to
become
official
business.
D
People
with
with
the
same
work,
skills
that
they're
applying
in
the
flea
market
and
also
there's
there's
plenty
of
land
there's
there's
global
warming
is
is,
is
not
true
and
also
there's
plenty
of
land
and
there's
plenty
of
room
and
there's
plenty
of
abundance
on
this
earth.
D
For
all
of
us
to
have
everything
that
that
we
need
and
there's
no
reason
why
anybody
shouldn't
have
access
to
the
to
the
to
the
the
blessings
of
life
that
that
are
abundant
for
all
of
us
here,
and
that
should
be
that
should
be
prioritized
and
it
should
be
incentivized
and
there's
plenty
of
room
street
vendors
for
for
a
fresh
fruit
should
be
normalized,
and
you
know
what
I
mean
subsidized.
There
should
be
programs
that
there
should
be
that
there
should
be
a
fruit.
D
There
should
be
fruit,
fruit
on
every
san
jose
residence
within
one
block
radius
for
them,
leaving
their
front
door.
I
think
that's.
I
think
that
would
be
very,
very
good
for
for
the
future
of
this
city,
which
is
great
and-
and
you
know
I
mean,
there's-
there's
plenty
of
abundance
if
we,
if,
if,
if
but
we
need
to,
we
need
to
get
get,
get
it
straight.
What
what
is
important
and
what's
what's
true
value
and
what's
really
important?
Thank
you.
Thank
you
guys
for
for
hearing
me
out.
H
Thank
you,
joseph
catherine.
You
are
unmuted.
E
Good
evening
I
want
to
echo,
but
everybody
else
is
saying
that
this
plan
it
doesn't
have,
I
mean
prone
to
the
plan
with
the
low
density
they
could
be
improved.
But
most
of
all,
the
flea
market
vendors
have
not
been
properly
notified.
E
Losing
the
flea
market
would
be
such
a
problem
for
san
jose
for
from
all
these
people
who
lose
their
livelihood
people
in
the
community,
even
if
they
get
some
kind
of
relocation
benefit.
Where
are
they
going
to
relocate
that
they
can
afford?
E
This
is
where
people
in
the
community
go
to
shop,
and
you
know
there's
and
recently
I've
been
seeing
all
kinds
of
ads
on
facebook
taken
out
by
the
flea
market
management,
saying
no,
no,
the
flea
market's
never
going
to
be
torn
down.
Oh
there's,
oh
there's
been
all
these
rumors.
Well,
I
think
the
rumors
are
when
the
city
starts
talking
about
changing
zoning
and
general
plans
and
stuff
and
that's
not
a
rumor,
that's
a
reasonable
interpretation
of
a
plan
that
doesn't
include
a
flea
market
in
it
and
the
city
should
not
be
treating
this
community.
H
E
Want
to
quickly
say
it's
clear
that
we
can
see
from
what
the
results
of
what
the
commissioners
already
approved
the
last
building.
E
So
whatever
the
situation
is
now
just
remember
that
you
have
a
choice
of
who's
elected
in
your
district
and
you
can
make
sure
that
these
people
are
not
elected
again.
Whatever
the
outcome
is,
so
I
want
to
make
sure
that
everybody
uses
their
voices
too
and
goes
out
their
votes
or
to
other
friends
who
have
the
opportunity
to
vote
to
make
sure
that
they're
representing
commissioners
in
their
districts
that
are
going
to
actually
speak
for
the
people,
and
so,
if
someone
can
also
translate
that
for
me,
so
other
people
can
know.
H
Done:
okay,
roosevelt,
you
are
a
muted
go
ahead
and
I
mute
yourself
and
begin
to.
H
H
H
Okay,
I'm
going
to
move
on,
looks
like
they're,
not
having
typical
difficulties
or
something
fatima.
You
are
unmuted,
go
ahead
and
meet
yourself
and
begin
to
speak.
Oh
hi,
my
name
is
fatima,
and
I
am
a
granddaughter
of
a
vendor
who
has
been
selling
leather
baths
for
over
40
years
at
the
flea
market.
H
My
siblings
have
also
grown
up
in
the
flea
market,
which
is
part
of
their
life
as
well.
Just
want
to
talk
about
how
many
families
depend
on
the
flea
market
to
be
able
to
provide
for
their
families
and
how
the
flam
fam
the
flea
market
impacts
many
latino
lives.
The
flea
market
has
also
been
a
place
of
joy
for
many
families.
The
the
flea
market
is
also
the
heart
of
the
latino
community,
and
I
just
want
to
to.
I
don't
want
that
to
be
taken
away
from
us.
H
Many
people
have
also
come
from
many
states.
Just
to
visit
the
family,
for
example,
one
of
our
customers
from
montana-
I
am
devastated
about
these
plans
and
also
hearing
this
through
social
media
and
not
the
flea
market
itself.
I
just
want
the
commissioners
to
make
the
right
choice
and
be
thinking
about
the
latino
communities,
and
I
owe
my
time
thank.
H
D
All
right,
so
my
name
is
calvin.
I'm
a
san
jose
student,
san
jose
state
student,
studying
for
my
bachelor's
for
business
administration
for
the
mis
concentration
and
also
an
aspiring
voice
actor.
D
I
went
to
the
san
jose
flea
market
with
a
friend
one
saturday
ago,
and
it
was
a
very
special
time
for
us,
and
this
was
after
I
heard
the
quote-unquote
rumors
about
a
public
works
project
that
was
happening
in
the
same
area.
We
got
a
chance
to
be
part
of
something
special.
D
You
know
I
I
feel
like
this
was
definitely
san
jose
culture
and
to
know
that
the
rumors
are
true
is
very
unfortunate
and
typically
one
in
favor
of
you
know
creating
more
jobs,
more
housing,
transportation
and
opportunity
for
our
san
jose
residents,
especially
because
we
legitimately
have
a
crisis
on
those
things.
But
if
they're
going
to
go
forward
with
the
zoning
and
destroy
an
integral
part
of
the
culture,
the
least
the
committee
can
do
is,
you
know,
have
a
bit
more
integrity.
D
I
think
vendors
have
the
right
to
feel
the
way
they
do,
especially
when
the
plan
has
been
so
kept
so
discreet
and
so
secretive
for
so
long
and
the
information
that
they
did
receive
was
false.
I
don't
like
the
implication
of
all
this
and
I
don't
like
the
feelings
of
like
betrayal
felt
by
the
vendors
and
the
residents
of
san
jose,
and
I
think
this
really
lowers
the
trust
and
credibility
that
we
have
for
the
people
in
charge
of
these
public
works
projects.
D
T
Thank
you.
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
just
pause
really
quick
to
say
that
if
we're
going
to
go
ahead-
and
this
we've
got
about
six
speakers
left
to
have
their
hands
raised.
If
you
need
vietnamese
or
chinese
translation-
and
you
still
want
to
speak,
please
raise
your
hand
now.
T
E
E
Where
had
the
flea
market
not
existed,
these
opportunities
would
not
have
existed
for
these
people,
so
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
that
you
guys
had
very
detailed
information
on
what
the
building
will
look
like
and
the
plans
for
the
space,
but
there
was
no
detailed
information
or
any
information
at
all
on
how
the
current
people
who
occupy
that
space
will
be
impacted.
E
H
E
Thank
you
hi
everyone,
so
my
name
is
sandra
arias
and
I
am
from
eastside
san
jose,
and
I
would
just
like
to
remind
you
that
the
displacement
has
been
a
tool
used
for
ethnic
cleansing.
It's
been
used
to
remove
minorities
from
where
they
live,
where
they
work
for
many
generations,
and
I
feel
like
moving
forth
with
this
project
without
clear
and
honest
communication
to
the
700
plus
vendors
is
doing
just
that
in
agreement
to
the
past
speaker.
I
think
it's
it's.
E
It's
almost
embarrassing
that
this
discussion
has
to
be
put
forth,
especially
in
discussion
with
planners
itself
and
for
it
to
be
a
second
thought
to
where
the
removers
of
the
vendors
will
be
is
also
very
embarrassing
and
dishonest
to
the
city
of
san
jose.
I
think
it's
very
contradictory.
I
mean
just
a
couple.
Months
ago
december
there
was
a
hashtag
shop,
small
san
jose
I
mean.
Does
that
only
is
that
only
correlate
to
people
that
look
a
specific
way.
E
It's
just
I
don't
understand,
it
doesn't
make
any
sense,
and
I
think
collectively
we
all
see
that-
and
we
could
all
hear
that-
and
I
want
to
end
it
that
I
would
go
to
the
flea
market
very
often
with
my
family
and
it's
beautiful,
the
culture
there,
the
hustle
there
it's
real
and
it's
alive
and
to
diminish
that
is
insane
and
it's
crazy
and
it's
it's
saddening
that
we
have
to
have
this
discussion
continuously.
Historically,
that
you
know
wanting
to
make
luxury
places,
but
for
who,
who
is
your
audience
and
historically,
the
displacement
of
minorities?
E
H
Thank
you
francisco,
you
are
next,
you
are
unmuted
and
yourself.
D
I've
been
listening
to
the
public
comments
and
concerns,
and
I
I
look
at
the
comments
and
what
I've
seen
is:
the
lack
of
right
information
to
the
vendors
and
and
also
the
support
to
implement
any
transition
if
the
plans
get
developed
that
gets
approved
and
developed,
and
the
vendors
need
to
have
some
sort
of
access
to
economic
support
to
implement
the
business
for
the
transition,
like,
I
said
so
being
say
that
you
know.
D
H
Okay,
thank
you.
Chris,
you
are
unmuted.
Q
D
D
The
comments
there
that
this
would
bring
in
more
jobs
in
housing
are
misguided
and
somewhat
false
seems
to
me
and
just
the
fact
that
the
the
people
in
charge
of
the
flea
market
right
now
are
posting
things
on
social
media.
Saying
that
the
flea
market's
not
closing
and
kind
of
making
people.
D
D
And
the
last
comment
I'll
make
is
that
to
both
the
audience
and
the
people
in
the
commission,
we
do
know
that
that
to
some
extent,
you're,
probably
publicly
appointed
officials,
but
also
people
who
appointed
you
are
elected
officials.
So
if
the
people
from
the.
D
We
will
organize
and
we
will
not
we'll
make
sure
that
you
guys
also
lose
your
jobs,
so
we
just
want
to
keep
that
in
mind
and
for
everyone
out
there,
who's
afraid
just
know
that
you
also
have
power.
Thank
you.
The
rest
of
my
time.
H
Thank
you
roberto.
You
are
unmuted.
Oh
sorry,
roberto.
I
need
to
promote
you
to
panelists
to
be
able
to
speak.
You're
gonna
be
rejoining.
S
Hi
good
afternoon
or
good
evening,
my
name
is
roberto
gonzalez
and
I
have
been
a
vendor
at
the
market
for
over
15
years,
alongside
my
father,
who
has
been
a
vendor
for
more
than
30
years,
selling,
mexican
candies
and
pinatas.
The
stand
is
the
only
source
of
income
for
my
dad
and
various
family
members,
not
incorporating
the
market
and
the
future.
Developments
of
this
site
will
negatively
affect
thousands
of
families
like
ours.
S
So
that's
why?
I
urge
the
planning,
commission
and
the
city
to
reject
the
proposed
berryessa
urban
village
plan
and
san
jose
market
plan
development,
rezoning
project
and
direct
staff
to
do
the
necessary
engagement
and
planning
to
return
with
better
plans
that
can
ensure
equitable,
equitable
development
without
displacement
of
the
market,
and
it
is
possible
in
the
renderings
that
eric
schnauer
showed
earlier,
where
the
same
information
that
was
provided
to
us
in
the
december
meetings
or
open
houses
that
he
held
in
those
meetings.
S
There
was
no
concrete
answers
to
our
questions
of
what
is
going
to
happen
to
us
once
the
development
starts.
He
only
touted
his
poster
boards
and
that's
it
and
going
back
to
the
eir
comment
that
the
benefits
of
the
project
outweigh
displacing
750
plus
vendors
and
families
is
ridiculous.
S
That
no
way
that
outweighs
development
outweighs
that.
That
is
just
horrible
for
the
gentleman
that
said
that
and
furthermore,
I
also
just
want
to
go
and
echo
the
comments
of
other
speakers
that,
depending
on
how
you
vote
tonight,
we
understand
that
you're,
public
and
elected
officials,
and
we
will
vote
you
out,
and
I
just
want
to
thank
everyone
for
showing
up
tonight.
Everyone
who
commented,
we
really
appreciate
it
from
all
the
vendors
thank.
H
You
thank
you
veronica.
You
are
unmuted.
E
Great,
thank
you
so
much
and
again,
I
think
I'm
just
another
voice
here
really
advocating
for
the
flea
market,
and
that
is
a
place
that
you
know.
E
I
have
really
a
young
age
I
was
introduced
to
when
I
migrated
to
mexico
and
when
I
migrated
from
mexico
and
that
I
found
it
to
be
a
piece
of
home,
a
piece
of
place
that
I
belonged
to
and
now
I
get
to
take
my
children
and
I
had
the
opportunity
to
work
with
the
vendors
when
I
was
a
teenager
during
the
weekends-
and
you
know
really
learned
about
the
business
and
hustle
with
them,
and
it
was
such
a
great
opportunity
as
a
teenager,
to
be
able
to
do
that
and
now
be
able
to
take
my
children
and
have
them
be
part
of
that
history.
E
It's
it's
definitely
history
and
trying
to
say
that
it
will
bring
more
housing,
more
housing
for
who
right.
That's
the
question
your?
How
many
are
you?
How
many
units
are
there
going
to
be
allocated
for
our
people
for
for
my
family
right,
five?
Maybe
six
if
we're
lucky
and
then
to
be,
kicked
out?
E
That's
not
enough
and
your
position
right
now.
It
is
to
support
our
most
our
vendors,
our
small
businesses
and
our
people.
Our
people
that
are
most
marginalized
are
most
put
to
the
side,
and
we
are
imploring
you
to
keep
on
supporting
this
piece
of
historic
land
this
and
not
just
the
land,
but
the
people
that
are
working
there
every
weekend,
every
even
the
weekdays
right.
Some
of
them
are
there
some
of
the
weekdays,
and
so
again
let
us
have
that
peace
that,
for
some
of
us,
like
myself,
it
connects
me
back
to
my
country.
T
Okay,
thank
you.
So
veronica
was
our
last
public
speaker
on
this
item
and
we
are
going
to
I
just
first
off
just
want
like
everyone
who
has
spoken,
we
are
actually
going
to
take
a
five
minute
break.
We've
all
been
here
for
a
really
long
time
and
we
appreciate
the
passionate
please
of
everyone.
Who's
spoken,
so
we're
gonna
go
ahead
and
come
back
at
10.
T
25
give
everybody
a
chance
to
grab
some
water,
take
a
bathroom
break
and
then
we
will
open
it
up
for
the
applicant
to
respond
and
provide
five
more
minutes
of
closing
remarks
and
then
we'll
commissioner
questions
and
discussions
okay.
So
we
will
see
you
all
here
back
at
10.
T
A
H
H
T
Like
so
we're
gonna
do
a
couple
things
before
we
move
to
the
applicant.
We
need
to
take
another
roll
call
vote.
Just
I
mean
a
roll
call,
a
vote,
a
roll
call
to
ensure
that
all
the
commissioners
are
here
and
back,
and
then
we
need
to
just
do
one
other
piece
of
business.
So,
commissioner,
vice
chair,
bonilla,
commissioner
casey.
D
T
Commissioner
lardinwa
president
commissioner
olivario
commissioner
torrens
here
and
chair
caballero
is
here,
and
we
have
a
quorum
of
the
commission
who
has
returned
so
before
we
close
out
public
comment.
I
did
announce
twice
asking
if
we
had
public
speakers
who
needed
vietnamese
or
a
chinese
translation
who
had
not
yet
had
the
opportunity
to
speak,
no
one
raised
their
hand
and
no
one
attempted
to
speak,
who
needed
those
translation
services.
T
So
to
me
that
means
that
we
don't
have
any
public
speakers
who
need
those
services,
so
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
move
on
and
see
no
additional
hands
grazing.
At
this
point,
we're
going
to
move
on
to
the
applicant's
response
of
five
minutes,
at
which
point
we
will
close
the
public
hearing
and
we'll
move
to
commissioner
questions
and
discussion
of
the
to
the
applicant
and
the
staff
and
eventually
to
a
request
for
a
motion.
T
So,
okay,
so
still
no
additional
hands
for
speakers
for
vietnamese
or
spanish,
I
mean
I'm
so
sorry,
vietnamese
or
chinese.
It
is
10
30.
We
will
go
ahead
and
put
five
minutes
on
the
clock
for
mr
shanehauer
to
give
closing
remarks
and
respond
to
public
comment.
B
B
B
B
It's
telling
people
come
out
and
enjoy
the
flea
market,
so
we
have
regularly
reached
out
to
the
vendors
and
including
for
this
hearing,
the
vendors
don't
receive
mail
at
the
flea
market,
so
we
hand
delivered
the
city's
hearing
notice
to
each
and
every
vendor
at
the
flea
market,
the
official
city
notice,
we
didn't
alter
it,
we
just
handed
it
out
door
to
door.
B
It
was
alluded
to
vendors
that
they
talked
with
me
at
our
open
house
session
that
we
had
and
as
part
of
those
discussions,
sure
we
talked
about
the
new
project.
We
also
talked
about
the
fact
that
we've
made
a
commitment
that
we'll
have
a
one-year
advance
notice
of
any
relocation
or
closure
of
the
flea
market.
So
no
vendors
should
be
living
in
fear.
They're
going
to
wake
up
tomorrow
morning
and
their
business
will
be
closed.
B
They
don't
have
to
worry
about
ordering
inventory
because
they
know
they
have
a
year
or
more
ahead,
so
they
can
order
inventory
to
run
their
business.
It
should
be
business
as
usual
at
the
flea
market.
That's
we're
trying
to
create
a
stable
environment
and
that's
what
we've
told
vendors
for
20
years.
We
first
filed
an
application
20
years
ago,
and
here
20
years
has
gone
by
and
the
flea
market
is
still
happening.
B
So
there
have
been
numerous
occasions
where
we've
shared
that
same
information,
and
we
will
continue
to
do
so
going
forward
so
once
again
to
make
it
clear.
We've
made
a
commitment
to
the
the
the
vendors
and
we
made
a
commitment
to
the
city
council
earlier
when
the
council
approved
our
projects,
that
we
will
give
a
one-year
advance
notification
to
the
vendors
before
any
relocation
or
closure.
B
So
here's
the
fairgrounds
you're
all
familiar
with
it.
We
think
a
san
jose
international
public
market
would
be
a
fantastic
asset
and
complement
the
community
events
that
happen
at
the
fairgrounds.
Why
doesn't
the
county
step
up
and
operate
a
public
market
at
the
fairgrounds.
B
B
I
would
just
suggest
that
leadership
is
about
working
together
to
find
the
win-win
solution
and
the
win-win
solution
is
to
have
dense
urban
development
at
a
bart
line
where
the
taxpayers
are
spending
9.2
billion
dollars
to
build
a
bart
line
and,
at
the
same
time
establish
a
long-term
home
for
san
jose's
public
market,
and
we
think
we
can
do
it
if
we're
working
together.
B
We
spent
four
years
and
millions
of
dollars
to
bring
forward
this
zoning
to
the
city
council
because
they
told
us
to
do
so
and
and
now
we're
in
this
this
dilemma,
so
we
hope
you'll
support
the
staff
recommendation
and
make
very
strong
statements
to
the
council
about
the
city
and
the
community
working
together
to
find
a
permanent
location
for
the
flea
market.
Thank
you.
T
So
at
this
time
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
close
the
public
hearing
for
this
item.
We
will
move
on
to
commissioner
questions
and
comments.
I
will
recognize
commissioner
olivario
first
and
then
commissioner
torrance.
L
Thank
you
chair
in
2007.
As
a
council
member,
I
voted
against
this
item
when
it
came
before
the
city
council.
However,
the
ship
has
sailed
in
that
there
have
been
so
many
subsequent
actions
by
the
city
council
that
this
has
moved
forward.
As
staff
has
explained.
I
see
absolutely
no
reason
to
vote
against
the
staff
recommendation
there's.
I
can't
find
any
reason
of
merit
to
vote
against
to
vote
against
the
staff
recommendation.
It
simply
wins
on
the
merits
of
the
general
plan
and
what
the
city
has
asked
the
applicant
to
do.
L
L
The
planning
commission
deals
strictly
with
land
use
general
plan
property
rights.
The
city
council
deals
with
both
land
use
and
politics
and
has
the
flexibility
to
bring
solutions
to
political
situations
with
either
policy
or
budget.
The
city
has
received
approximately
230
million
dollars
from
the
federal
government.
L
The
council
has
great
flexibility
in
spending
this
money
and
could
certainly
use
a
fraction
of
that
money
for
a
solution.
The
county
has
failed
to
come
to
the
table
on
the
topic,
and
so
it
sits
with
the
city.
So
I
would
simply
make
a
motion
that
I
think
our
entire
planning
commission
can
approve,
which
would
be
to
support
all
parts
of
the
staff
recommendation
and
a
suggestion
to
the
city
council
that
they
look
at
the
federal
money
that
has
the
flexibility
to
dispense
with
great
flexibility
and
to
propose
any
solution
they
may
see
fit.
L
We
as
planning
commissioners
do
not
have
the
ability
to
pass
policy
nor
allocate
budget,
but
the
council
members
do
and
this
applicant
should
not
be
forced
to
suffer
because
of
for
non-legal
reasons.
L
So
I
think
the
city
council
has
this
opportunity
with
this
incredible
pot
of
money
to
do
something,
and
so,
as
a
planning
commission,
we
can
support
the
the
actual
land
use
of
what's
being
asked,
which
is
an
increase
of
commercial
square
footage
and
an
increase
of
residential
square
footage,
and
then
just
simply
ask
the
council
to
do
their
due
diligence
on
how
they
may
choose
to
allocate
for
a
solution.
And
so,
if
that's
my
motion,
if
that's
unclear,
I'd,
be
happy
to
state
it
again.
M
Okay,
so
I
think
that's
my
cue
to
jump
in
in
here
is
that
right,
chair.
M
Thank
you,
commissioner
olivario.
I
just
want
to
thank
the
community
that
has
come
out
tonight
to
speak
on
behalf
of
this
or
against
it
or
on
behalf
of
it
all
the
people
who
attended
this
lengthy
meeting.
It
just
shows
your
your
passion
and
your
care,
and
I
definitely
have
been
affected
by
the
letters
that
I've
read
in
advance
of
this
meeting
and
all
the
documents
and
then
hearing
the
the
testimonies
and
so
I'll.
M
I
could
speak
to
several
things,
but
I'm
gonna
focus
on
how
all
councilmember
sorry,
commissioner
olivario
was
saying
that
this
is
an
issue
of
land
use
and
it
is,
and
that
is
our
job
as
planning
commissioners
to
help
move
along
land
uses,
but
in
the
the
file
here
the
the
land
use
is
meant
to
use
an
innovative
economy,
a
mix
of
employment,
balanced
economic
base.
M
There
are
terms
like
small-scale
retail
uses.
That
is
what
this
is
supposed
to
be.
Oh,
did
I
get
kicked
out.
T
Torrens
you're
fine.
I
just
asked
that
the
screen
that
the
previous
that
the
applicant
screen
be
taken
down
so
that
the
community
could
see
our
faces.
M
Okay,
okay,
anyway,
so
I
believe
that
there
is
a
place
for
the
flea
market
at
this
site
in
the
very
in
the
this
plan
for
the
village
and
that
not
enough
due
diligence
has
been
done
on
the
part
of
the
owner.
Otherwise
they
would
have
had
more
support.
Tonight,
we've
seen
a
lot
of
other
projects
go
through
where
the
the
landowner
worked
with
the
community
and
synergized,
and
they
came
to
an
agreement
and
they
came
to
something
workable
for
both
sides.
That
wasn't
done
in
this
case.
M
M
T
You,
commissioner,
torrance
commissioner
casey,
you
had
your
hand
up
and
then
it
disappeared.
Did
you
want
to
make
some
comments.
G
Thank
you
chair,
so
I
have
a
lot
of
things
to
say
about
the
flea
market,
but
I
want
to
get
to
that
later
right
now
I
want
to
talk
about
the
urban
village
plan
overall
and
then
after
we
get
through
that
I'll.
Let
other
folks
go
so
I
had
some
specific
questions
for
staff
put
some
notes
on
page
numbers,
so
I
am.
G
Curious
about
this
issue
of
employment
capacity,
you
know
on
page
27
of
the
urban
village
planned
draft,
there's
a
section
on
employment
growth
and
it
talks
about
how
employment
capacity
was
reduced
from
6.6
million
square
feet
to
4.2
million
square
feet
that
talks
about
how
housing
units
were
increased
from
about
4
800
to
5100,
and
I
am
I'm
curious.
G
Basically,
those
two
are
related
like
the
employment
went
down,
so
the
housing
went
up,
and
then
also
is
this
reflecting
what's
in
the
staff
recommendation
about
increasing
employment
capacity
or
like,
would
that
land
at
this
4.2
million
square
feet?
Or
would
the
staff
recommendation
increase
that
further?
And
so
that's
my
first
question.
C
I
can,
I
think
I
can
answer
that
commission.
How
do
I
know
so?
First
of
all,
the
original
direction
and
the
general
plan
for
appendix
five.
You
are
correct:
the
6.7
million
square
feet
of
commercial
development
and,
I
believe,
was
4
800
units.
So
one
of
the
things
we
did
was
a
test
fit
analysis,
so
a
test
analysis.
C
Basically,
we
run
different
simulations
on
3d
and
volumetric
capacity,
trying
to
figure
it
out
with
the
consultant
whether
or
not
that
is
feasible
and
what
that
represents
in
terms
of
urban
design
and
urban
planning
and
the
heights.
C
So
we
quickly
realized
that
trying
to
push
for
6.7
million
square
feet
will
result
in
buildings
on
the
other,
maybe
25
stories
or
27
stories
that
even
that
we
could
potentially
put
into
the
plan
we're
not
realistically
from
the
real
estate
state
development
perspective.
That
was
one
of
the
issues.
The
second
issue
is
that
they
will
totally
overwhelm
the
existing
residential
neighborhoods,
so
you
can
imagine
very
big
towers,
so
what
we
did
was
just
this
analysis
were
a
consultant
and
basically
we
compromise
and
we
say:
okay,
the
community
is
asking
for
more
units.
C
Maybe
we
can
squeeze
more
units
here
and
there,
and
we
also
said:
okay.
We
think
that
maybe
there's
an
opportunity
to
move
some
of
that
commercial
capacity
south
of
mayberry.
So
that's
what
we
did.
So
what
you
have
for
you
tonight
is
the
consideration
to
shift
some
of
that
commercial
capacity,
south
mayberry,
because
number
one.
We
think
that
we're
meeting
the
goals
of
the
general
plan
specifically
about
the
reasoning
in
terms
of
the
capacity
that
this
site
should
support.
C
G
Thank
you
for
clarifying
that.
My
next
question
is
I'm
looking
at
the
building
heights
diagram
figure
3-3
on
page
39
of
the
plan,
and
it
was
talked
about
in
one
of
the
presentations
about
how
you
know
there's
a
couple
areas
that
are
set
for
a
cap
of
270
feet,
which
is
the
highest
cap
in
the
plan
and
how
that
rivals,
downtown,
which
is
accurate.
I
mean,
like
the
tallest
buildings.
G
Downtown
are
only
a
little
bit
taller
than
that,
but
also
downtown
has
that
restriction
of
its
near
the
airport,
so
that
has
to
be
incorporated
into
building
heights
there
and,
of
course,
also
building
anywhere.
You
have
to
consider
compatibility
with
the
existing
community.
G
I
guess
I'm
curious
in
the
areas
that
are
right
next
to
the
bart
line
or
the
areas
that
are
in
the
the
south
district
that
are
fronting
commercial
uses
is
there.
Why
was
that
particular
cap
chosen
as
opposed
to
something
potentially
higher.
C
So
the
study
of
the
heights
you're
correct.
R
Maybe
I'll
jump
in
I'm
the
secretary,
but
I
can
answer
that
question
while
charlotte's
out,
so
I
think
so
you
know
urban
planning
and
doing
these
community
planning
process
is
really
a
balancing
act
between
many
different
stakeholders
and-
and
so
some
of
the
a
lot
of
the
discussion
we
were
hearing
is
that
they
that
the
the
the
the
people
at
the
workshop
said
hey.
R
We
could
be
okay
with
height,
but
it
needs
to
be
in
certain
places
and
it
needs
to
be
of
a
reasonable
scale,
and
so
these
kind
of
heights
were
worked
out
sort
of
to
achieve
the
goal
of
accommodating
significant
new
dense
development,
while
also
not
creating
heights
that
that
were
of
concern
of
the
surrounding
neighborhoods.
R
On
top
of
that,
what
we
have
found
is
there's
not
an
error
can
obviously
weigh
in
on
this
himself,
but
there's
not
really
a
for
a
mar
foreseeable
market
for
buildings
that
are
much
taller
than
we
have
in
this
plan.
R
So
so
it's
more
about
the
balancing
act,
but
also
understanding
that
that
if
we
had
a
conversation
with
the
community
about
going
up
to
say
30
stories
or
25
stories,
it
was
kind
of
much
more
of
a
theoretical
conversation
not
based
in
sort
of
a
likely
reality
of
what
would
happen
in
the
next
in
the
next
10
to
15
years,
so
so
yeah.
So
I
think
that
kind
of
sums
up
why
we?
Why
we,
I
ended
up
with
the
heights
that
we
did.
G
Gotcha-
and
I
I
guess
on
talking
about
the
development
feasibility-
obviously
we
don't
there's
large
parts
of
this
urban
village
plan
that
we
don't
have
projects
for
yet
I
so
I'm
I'm
curious
like.
Why
does
that
play
in
when
these
are
caps?
And
you
know
if
you
set
a
certain
cap
and
the
developer
says:
oh,
we
actually
don't
want
to
build
up
to
that.
We
want
to
build
something
less,
there's
nothing
wrong
with
that
right.
C
Yes,
that
is
correct,
so
there's
nothing
wrong
with
that.
We
do
have
some
minimum
standards.
When
in
your
package,
you
should
have
the
what's
called
the
pd
standards,
so
we
have
a
minimum
amount
of
housing
and
density
and
we
have
a
minimum
amount
of
far
on
the
commercial
areas.
We
believe
that
that
far
3.5,
specifically
for
the
flea
market
rezoning,
could
give
you
buildings
on
the
order
of
five
to
six
story.
High
buildings.
C
We
feel
that
it's
important
to
have
at
least
the
minimum
height
to
build
the
kind
of
place,
but
we
are
concentrating
the
capacity
as
much
as
we
can
in
certain
areas.
I
also
want
to
point
out
that
if
you
look
at
the
height
diagram,
the
height
diagram
calls
for
specific
areas
to
have
what
we
call
towers
so,
for
instance,
in
front
of
the
bar
station,
we're
saying:
look
you
you
can
really
increase
heat
the
height
and
go
to
270
feet
18
stories,
so
we
were
trying
to
you
know.
C
I
was
doing
a
presentation
saying
that
we
handcrafted
almost
like
we
took
each
opportunity
and
trying
to
figure
out
how
we
could
maximize
where
we
could,
without
doing
a
detriment
to
do
existing
neighborhoods
and
things
like
that.
You
really
look
at
the
big
picture,
and
perhaps
you
know
it's
not
fair.
This
has
been
missed
in
the
larger
conversation,
but
we're
really
protecting
the
existing
neighborhoods.
The
way
we
executed
the
high
distribution
and
specifically
the
in
the
flea
market
right.
C
So
a
lot
of
concentration
of
housing
jobs
is
going
there,
but
the
really
good
benefits
is
that
the
other
areas
of
the
european
belgium
are
being
protected.
So
this
notion,
for
instance,
of
protecting
affordable
housing,
the
16th
stock
of
the
housing
that
is
being
within
the
boundary.
We're
not
touching
that
you
know
we're
not
presuming
that.
There's
been
redevelopment
projects
going
there
and
doing
you
know
six
or
seven
story.
C
High
buildings,
mixed
use,
we're
saying:
look:
we
have
four
opportunity
sites,
they
accommodate
a
lot
of
capacity
that
is
fair
to
accommodate
in
the
urban
village
and
we
executed
an
urban
design
urban
forum.
That
shows
how
that
happens,
and
what
you
see
here,
honestly,
it's
pretty
realistic
and
trim
so
how
it
actually
looks
like
again.
This
is
the
result
of
a
testing
analysis
that
we're
consulting.
G
I
guess
I
just
get
the
sense
that
you
know
downtown
was
used
as
like
the
idea
of
what's
really
tall,
and
I
mean
like
I
s
like
I
said
downtown-
has
that
physical
limit,
because
of
the
airport
I
mean
you
can
see,
was
I'm
sorry.
C
No,
no,
I
mean
I
understand
that,
but
that
that
perspective
I
think
when
we
say
that
this
is
as
high
as
downtown
we're
trying
to
put
in
perspective
that
we
were
aggressive
in
heights
as
much
as
we
could
giving
the
direction
the
general
plan
to
accommodate
so
much
development
in
terms
of
housing
and
and
we
actually
literally
fit
as
much
as
we
could
here
within
their
their
list
of
opportunities
of
what
michael
described
terms
of
economics
in
terms
of
what
the
actual
buildings
could
look
like.
C
But
but
in
no
way
we
were
trying
to
match
that
you
know
on
purpose.
I
think
some
of
the
comments
of
the
communities
from
as
we
catalyst
express
specifically
that
why
you're
not
using
more
taller
buildings
but
you're
not
doing
more
and
we've
been
saying
for
a
long
time.
Look
we
did
as
much
as
we
could
without
trying
to
make
this
place.
Look
exactly
like
downtown
the
fact
that
you
have
three
or
four
towers
that
could
go
270
feet.
That
is
exceptionally
high.
It's
true,
but
it's
not
the
entire
urban
plan.
C
C
Those
are
very
realistic
images
of
buildings
that
you
can
build
with
the
real
estate
market
behind
so
yeah
again,
we
we,
we
put
a
lot
of
thought
into
the
feasibility
of
of
this
and
trying
to
protect
as
much
as
possible.
The
existing
neighborhoods.
G
And
I
I
just
also
want
to
say
I
do
recognize
that
there
are
a
lot
of
varying
heights
here
and
that
that
it
is
important
to
make
it
compatible
with
the
existing
neighborhoods,
and
I
think
the
general
thing
that
it
slopes
out
you
know
slopes
down
into
lower
heights
as
you
get
closer
to
neighborhoods
makes
a
lot
of
sense
chair.
Are
you
okay
with
me
asking
more
questions
about
this,
or
do
you
want
me
to
let
it
go
on
to
other
commissioners.
T
I'm
actually
I'm
kind
of
thinking
that,
like
let's
give
each
commissioner
15
minutes
for
a
first
round
of
like
your
burning
questions
and
then
loop
back,
so
I
started
the
timer
kind
of
I
did.
I
should
have
announced
that
originally,
so
I
apologize
to
the
commissioners
and
to
you.
So
why
don't
you
go
through,
like
maybe
one
more
question
and
then
let's
move
on
to
commissioner
garcia
and
then
we'll
go
through
the
list
again
and
we'll
definitely
get
come
back
to
you
for
additional
questions.
Okay,
thank
you.
G
I
wrote
down
the
wrong
page
number,
I
think,
but
regardless
of
this
it
about
parking,
so
I
read
that
the
goal
with
parking
is
one
space
per
residential
unit
and
1.5
spaces
per
thousand
square
feet
of
commercial
development.
Is
that?
Did
I
read
that
correctly.
C
Those
are
equivalents,
there's
really
a
lot
of
conversation
about
parking.
What
that
means
is
that
in
a
nutshell,
if
we
implement
all
the
parking
policies,
the
equivalent
of
the
parking
reduction
will
be
1.5
and
one
that
does
not
mean
those
are
actually
parking
ratios.
So
we
have
this
conversation
very
extensively
with
the
applicant
on
the
flea
market,
because
this
notion
of
feasibility
of
real
estate
development
from
parkinson's
perspective
was
super
important.
C
So
we
have
a
really
I'm
going
to
say
very
innovative
way
of
doing
parking
reduction.
If
you
do,
you
take
a
look
of
that
of
the
barry
assad
transportation.
Demand
management
plan
speaks
very
clearly
about
how
the
parking
reduction
works
with
a
point-based
system.
It's
a
really
long
conversation
but
story
short.
C
Those
are
now
parking
ratios.
Those
are
parking
equivalents
and
if
you
look
at
what
those
parking
equivalent
space
is
that
that
will
result
in
50
reduction
of
parking.
Actually,
at
the
beginning
of
the
planning
process,
we
were
scratching
our
heads
and
trying
to
figure
it
out
what
was
the
impact
of
not
doing
anything
about
parking
share
and
we
calculated
with
something
on
the
other
14
parking
structures
between
10
and
12
story,
high
structures
just
for
parking
just
alone
for
parking.
C
If
you
put
that
in
a
surface
with
something
about
24
acres
of
parking,
so
the
community
was
basically
very
very
concerned
about
parking.
So
that's
why
we
do
something
that
is
really
very.
You
know,
innovative
and
and
frankly,
at
the
benefit
to
ben,
to
accommodate
all
the
things
in
their
windows
plan.
That
is
not
party
right.
So
there
are
the
uses,
their
open
space
and
things
of
that
nature.
G
Right
because
I
I
guess
how
much
does
the
fact
that
it's
a
bart
station
play
into
that?
I'm
sorry,
I'm
not
super.
C
That's:
okay!
That's
a
really
good
question
yeah,
so
I
mean
we
can
really
drill
on
the
on
the
numbers
of
that
with
we
have.
Let
me
perhaps
let
me
show
you.
We
have
some
backup
slides
that
I
can
show
you
what
is
called
the
most
split
target
for
the
planet.
C
We
have
also
my
colleagues
in
the
department
of
transportation
that
will
be
able
to
chime
in
if
I'm
missing
something,
but
we
have
a
new
slide
that
we
have
as
a
backup
slide
to
show
you
what
is
called
the
most
split
analysis.
The
multiple
analysis
basically
shows
you.
C
If
we
don't
do
anything
in
terms
of
analysis
in
terms
of
transportation,
what
would
happen
so
right
now
the
2040
mold
split
analysis
about
50
50
between
what
is
called
a
single
occupancy
vehicle,
which
is
the
orange
color
and
when
you
have
the
other
forms
of
mobility
and
that
all
the
forms
of
mobility
includes
the
part
station,
so
some
people
might
say
whether
you
have
a
specific
percentage
of
bart.
Well,
I
think
something
like
on
the
order
of
30
percent.
C
However,
the
ability
to
accurately
distribute
it
in
the
different
modes
is
very
difficult
to
do
so.
We
decided
to
lump
everything
in
the
50,
but
for
the
purpose
of
the
plan.
What
is
really
amazing
interesting
is
we
demonstrated
that
the
land
use
planning
efficiency
that
we
have
in
the
plan
will
reduce
the
single
vehicle
occupancy
to
35
percent.
C
So
this
is
the
number
that
is
very
key
to
understand,
because
if
we
do
everything
correctly,
the
vast
majority
of
the
transportation
most
to
a
right
to
the
various
environment
builders
could
be
anything
or
everything
except
a
car,
and
even
with
that,
when
we
converted
this
35
percent
of
single
occupancy,
because
you
see
that
in
the
parking
chapter
that
represents
12
000
parking
spaces,
that's
normally
correlated
with
the
amount
of
people
who
drive
alone
in
a
car.
C
So
this
is
why
this
is
so
fundamentally
important
in
interest
on
mobility
of
the
plan,
because
the
community
told
us
very
clearly:
look
we
don't
want
to
prioritize
parking
here.
We
want
to
make
this
place
walkable
et
cetera
everything
that
you
will
expect
in
a
plan
of
this
nature.
So
it's
very
important
to
keep
that
in
perspective.
G
Great
and
one
last
clarification,
vta
has
already
constructed
a
parking
garage
on
site.
Is
that
factored
into
this
analysis
of
parking.
C
Very
good
question:
no,
the
answer
is
no
that's.
We
could
not
count
on
that
parking
structure,
because
that
is
only
for
bar
users,
so
that's
people
basically,
who
have
the
system
to
take
part.
So
every
it
is
a
you
know
I
can.
Maybe
you
know
we
need
to
bring
more
details
in
this.
The
environmental
impact
report
for
the
bar
station
contemplated
that
amount
of
parking
to
supply
the
station
itself.
C
So
that's
something
that
we
are
not
including
so
the
12
000
parking
spaces
is
above
and
beyond
that.
You
understand
that
a
lot
of
people
will
come
here
to
tip
bar
go
to
oakland,
but
there
will
not
necessarily
be
people
who
live
there
right,
so
it
will.
It
will
be
a
regional
attraction
of
users
for
part,
so
yeah.
The
answer
is
no.
The
answer
is
that's
beyond,
above
and
beyond
what
we
have
here.
G
Okay,
thank
you
and
chair
thanks
for
the
time
on
that.
One.
T
Okay,
so
before
I
move
on
to
the
next
commissioner,
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
that
I
see
that
there
are
still
some
hands
up
in
the
attendees
section.
We
have
announced
that
the
public
hearing
was
closed
after
the
applicant
made
their
their
final
comments.
We
will
not
be
taking
additional
public
comment
on
this
item,
so
we
just
wanted
to
make
that
clear
for
folks
who
are
still
listening,
we
still
have
107
people
who
are
listening
and
40
members
of
city
staff
and
interpreters.
T
So
you
know
we're
all
still
very
here
and
present
and
trying
to
to
make
the
best
decisions
we
can
so.
I'm
gonna
yield
the
floor
to
commissioner
garcia
and
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
put
15
minutes
on
a
timer,
and
that
doesn't
mean
that
you
won't
have
another
opportunity
to
ask
additional
questions.
I
just
think
it'll
give
every
all
the
commissioners
a
chance
to
ask
some
questions
that
they
or
make
comments.
So,
commissioner,
garcia
go
ahead.
Q
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
so
I
I
can
certainly
appreciate
torrent's
conclusion
that
it's
difficult
to
to
put
this
to
a
vote
today,
because
there's
so
many
open-ended
questions
and
and
large
commissioner
lardon
as
well,
because
really
it's
it's
somewhat
difficult
to
to
organize
your
thoughts
on
so
many
questions,
because
really
the
easy.
The
easy
thing
would
be
to
put
this
to
a
vote
and
say:
hey.
You
know
the
staff
is
recommending
this.
Let's
go
with
the
recommendation
and
you
know
you
could
do
that.
Q
Alternatively,
you
could
say,
let's
say
no,
because
there's
so
many
holes
in
the
arguments
and
conclusions,
but
the
city
council
could
easily
not
take
our
recommendation
and
vote
to
approve
it.
So
I
think
we
need
to
do
what's
hard
and
find
a
win-win
solution,
because,
contrary
to
what
some
people
you
know
expressed,
we're
not
elected
officials.
This
is
a
volunteer
position.
Q
We're
appointed
we're
appointed
because
we're
bested
in
and
have
an
interest
in,
seeing
a
positive
outcome
and
it
really
seems
counter-intuitive
to
to
increase
density
for
the
benefit
of
the
community
while
we're
hurting
the
community
in
the
process
right.
So
you
know
we
ask
people
to
get
involved,
be
part
of
the
solution.
That's
why
I'm
here
and
we've.
We
clearly
see
that
that
they
want
to
be
part
of
the
solution,
they're
trying
to
come
up
with
with
something
that's
a
win-win,
and
yet
so
we
should
not
be
quick
to
dismiss
that.
Q
We
should
find
the
solution.
That's
the
hard
thing,
but
you
know
we
should
do
it.
I
mean
there's
so
many
questions
that
I
have
for
staff
and
and
developer
like
you
know.
Why
was
this
done
in
stages?
You
know
where
there's
so
many
exceptions
in
this
report
from
the
2007
to
2009
to
2015
to
2016
to
the
general
plan.
Q
So
why
aren't
we
as
the
city
and
planners
consistent
with
our
vision,
or
did
we
intentionally
do
this
in
steps
right?
Why
are
we
using
a
historic
assessment
report?
That's
over
15
years
old
right
and
one
of
the
one
of
the
things
that
was
mentioned
in
that
report
was
continuously
that
the
flea
market
is
was
under
50
years
old
at
that
time,
45
years
old.
Well
now
it's
60
years
old
and
you
know
the
national
registry
we're
a
decade
beyond
you
know
the
with
with
the
national
registry.
Q
We
would
consider
that
to
be
and
how
we're
dismissing
the
historic
significance
of
that
and
overlooking
that
is,
is
surprising
to
me
how
we
look
at
sequa
and,
in
other
reports,
say
we're
going
to
remove
10
trees
and
we
got
to
be
worried
about
10
trees,
but
here
we're
going
to
displace
a
thousand
small
business
owners
and
500
employees
of
the
flea
market
employees.
Q
You
know,
how
are
we
going
to
replace
those?
What
what
are
the
economic
consequences
you
know
and
the
conclusions
that
creating
commercial
space
creates
jobs?
Well,
that's
simply
not
true!
I
mean
what's
the
logic
there,
because
we
have
a
there's:
no
shortage
of
commercial
space
in
san
jose
yeah,
there's
no
shortage
and
then
with
recent
major
employers
moving
out
of
the
area
with
a
certain
amount
of
remote
work
going
on,
we
have
more
space
than
we
previously
had,
so
inventory
has
gone
up.
Q
So
you
know
adding
a
million
and
change
of
commercial
space
doesn't
create
jobs.
It
just
creates
buildings.
I
live
in
the
edenvale
district
8
area.
There's
I've
lived
here
for
almost
20
years
and
there's
buildings,
hundreds
of
thousands
of
square
feet
that
are
empty
since
I
moved
here
right.
So
I
I
never
understood
that.
But
now
I
understand
it.
Building
making
these
buildings
or
granting
the
entitlements
to
to
build
commercial
space
doesn't
create
jobs.
Q
It
just
creates
space
and-
and
you
know
if,
if
the
developer
wasn't
interested
and
said
that
the
city
council
is,
is
the
one
that
was
encouraging
this
you
know,
then
I
guess
they
would
be
indifferent
to
whether
we
voted
yes
or
no.
I
guess
is
the
conclusion
I
reached
there,
but
you
know
that
we
haven't
had
you
know.
Community
outreach
is
disappointing
because
this
project's
been
going
on
for
15
years
right
and
the
last
real
community
meeting
we
had
was
in
2018
that's
a
couple
years
ago
right.
Q
Q
I
don't
know
you
know
if
you
would
leave
your
stand
or
your
shop
to
go,
get
information,
that's
already
been
circulated
right
and
so
clearly
there
there's
an
effort
to
be
heard
and
and-
and
we
owe
it
to
the
community
to
to
to
defer
a
vote
and
to
resolve
some
of
these
questions
and
and
find
a
way
to
you
know
to
retain
the
flea
market
that
that
still
allows
more
housing
and
still
allows
more
commercial
development.
Q
But
I
don't
know
why
the
the
reduced
footprint
alternative
is
not
an
option,
but
I
imagine
it's
because
we
need
to
fit
the
transit
or
urban
village
design,
but
the
whole
point
is
to
benefit
the
community.
So
you
know
if
we're,
if
we're
tone,
deaf
and
displacing
the
community
during
this
time.
You
know,
I
don't
know,
I
don't
know
why.
That
would
be.
C
So,
commissioner,
garcia,
I
wonder
if,
at
this
point
I
could
my
job
is
to
present
the
plan
and
to
present
the
policies
of
the
plan,
and
I
think
part
of
the
things
that
the
majority
of
the
comments
tonight
having
around
this
you
know
focus
on
on
the
flea
market.
C
I
think
it's
fair
to
say
that
the
vast
majority
of
questions
about
a
flea
market.
So
what?
If,
if
you
allow
me
what
I
would
like
to
offer,
you
is
what
the
plan
says
about
that
in
terms
of
land
use
policy,
because
we
do
have
something
that
is
perhaps
indirectly
related
to
a
possible
answer.
And
if
you
would
allow
me,
I
would
like
to
show
you
a
specific
where,
in
the
plan
speaks
to
that.
If
that
is
possible,.
Q
C
Basically,
what
this
says
is
that
potentially
an
interim
use
could
be
the
temporary
use
of
certain
things
so
and
then,
basically,
what
you
see
in
highlight
says
that
internal
line
uses
could
be
allowed,
includes
farmer,
markets,
swat
meats,
seasonal
cells,
such
halloweens
at
christmas,
temporary
entertainment,
civic
education
and
other
types
of
place
making
uses.
We
heard
tonight
extensively
that
the
flea
market
as
a
place
making
use
because
it
has
the
collective
memory
of
san
jose,
etc,
etc.
C
So
the
plan
does
acknowledge
that
it
accommodates
the
commercial
in
the
residential
capacity,
but
we
have
policy
line.
Use
2.4,
says
that
allow
this
type
of
uses
interim
and
they
don't
just
make
sure
that
and
clear
this
is
a
temporary
use.
If,
if
you
allow
me,
I
would
like
to
show
you
where
interim
uses
are
applied
in
terms
of
the
plan,
so
because
it's
good
to
understand
that,
and
basically
it's
all
the
commercial
areas
right.
C
So
if
we
look
at
the
land
use
plan,
we're
going
to
show
the
conceptual
land
use
plan
that
we
have
right
now,
and
this
is
in
the
resulting
so
and
it's
consistent
with
a
plan,
so
the
interim
line
use
is
applied
mostly
to
commercial
areas.
So,
right
now,
if
you
look
at
the
staff
report,
something
with
the
other
26
of
the
entire
net
development
area
in
the
sky
plan
is
commercial
uses.
That
is
something
about
15
acres.
C
So
what
we
think
is
that
normally
in
the
in
the
cycle
of
real
estate
development,
probably
the
housing
projects
will
come
first,
so
we're
thinking
that
the
interim
line
used
to
be
applied
in
the
commercial
areas,
which
is
everything
they
have,
the
blue
color
the
parking
structures.
C
Normally
those
buildings
are
developed
later
and,
to
put
this
into
context
again,
the
urban
village
plan
will
not
approve
a
development
permit.
It
will
not
approve
the
construction
of
anything,
but
if
we
want
to
think
about
of
an
interim
use
and
say
two
five
years,
what
the
city,
the
community,
the
developer,
think
about
seriously
what's
going
to
happen
with
the
flea
market.
C
If
we
need
to
think
about
something
that
is
interim
use,
immediate
solution
for
potential
use
of
these
commercial
areas,
we
can
think
about
the
flea
market,
perhaps
going
there,
because
it's
a
place
making
use
as
something
that
fits
the
plan
in
terms
of
that
value
that
has
been
recognized
in
the
community.
I
just
want
to
highlight
in
the
plan,
because
I
don't
think
we
we
have
talked
about
that
in
in
in
deep-
and
I
think
is
worth
mentioning
at
this
point.
C
We're
saying
that
we
have
a
land
use
policy
that
potentially
could
show
that
that's
where
the
temporary
interim
location
of
the
flea
market
would
go.
That
is
that's
a
that's
an
unused
policy
of
the
plan.
We
don't
have
control
of
what
the
actual
flea
market
will
do
from
the
applicant's
perspective,
saying
that
the
plan
does
have
an
answer
and
that
we
could
go
there
temporarily,
because
we
think
that
those
areas
will
be
developed
much
later
than
the
residential
areas.
F
C
That
is
correct.
It's
an
interesting
solution,
but
I
think
what
what
we're
hearing
here
tonight
is
that
we're
trying
to
find
win-win
solutions,
we're
trying
to
find
something
that
does
perhaps
favors
the
plan,
but
at
the
same
time
favors
the
developer
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
we
can
think
about,
even
though
it's
an
interesting
solution.
What
basically
he
gains
is
time
for
everyone
to
think
about.
C
What's
gonna
happen
with
the
market
in
the
future
and
without
thinking
about
some
more
radical
solution
like
moving
the
flea
market
elsewhere
in
the
sea,
so
I
guess
from
stars
perspective
and
land
use
perspective.
What
I
can
you
know
say
on
behalf
of
the
plan,
is
that
the
plan
does
have
something
to
say
about
something:
a
potential
solution
as
an
interim
solution
for
the
market.
F
C
I
I
cannot
speak
on
that,
okay,
on
the
speak,
to
say
that
what
we
use
is
land
use,
planning
perspectives,
and
this
is
the
typically
dynamics
of
what
happens,
but
I
think
we
heard
also
from
the
community
very
clearly
that
everybody
thinks
needs
to
think
about
a
permanent
solution
for
what
happens
with
the
flea
market.
So
again,
we
just
want
to
focus
on
what
the
plan
says.
The
land
use
policy
that
is
there
in
the
plan
as
a
potential
resource.
Q
No,
I
encourage
the
back
and
forth
because
that
helps
spark
ideas.
So
can
you
help
me
unders
so
so
thank
you
for
that
explanation.
Can
you
help
me
understand
the
traffic
mitigation
math,
because
the
math
that
I
did
came
out
different
than
than
what
I
saw?
For
example,
you
know
from
the
last
entitlement
the
obligation
to
mitigate
traffic-
I
believe
it
says-
is
16
million
dollars
and
since
2015
as
of
january,
2020
11.4
million
have
been
paid.
Q
Q
J
Yeah
good
evening,
thank
you
and
white
with
the
department
of
public
works,
yeah,
so
per
the
2015
transportation
development
policy.
When
flea
market
joined
the
policy,
their
payment
commitment
for
their
project
was
16
million,
based
on
what
they
have
constructed
per
the
policy.
J
They
were
allowed
to
make
payments
as
they
built
specific
units
and
commercial
development
on
their
site
for
both
the
north
and
the
south
side
of
the
project
site,
because
both
the
north
and
site,
what
north
and
south
was
was
zoned
in
at
the
time
and
so
based
on
the
construction
and
based
on
the
units
that
they
have
constructed.
J
Thus
far,
they
paid
a
total
of
11.4
million
per
the
policy,
and
so
that
is
equates
to
approximately
71
of
the
total
payment
obligation
that
they
were
required
to
pay
using
that
same
equivalent
effect,
equivalency
factor,
71
percent
of
the
total
730
trips
that
they
are
sending
to
the
flea
market.
J
Sorry
to
the
the
mayberry
interchange,
it's
518,
roughly
chips
that
they
paid
so
so
basically,
730
71
of
730
is
the
518
and
that's
that's
the
math
behind
that,
and
so
we
use
that
further
to
to
describe
the
number
of
trips
that
that
yielded
based
on
the
north
side.
Construction,
since
flea
market
has
not
built
on
the
south
side
and
that
yielded
a
credit
of
191
trips
that
essentially
they
they
paid
above
and
beyond
their
payment,
since
they
haven't
constructed
anything
on
the
south
side.
J
J
J
Were
allowed
to
to
basically
either
construct
or
provide
contribution
or
payment
towards
improvements
equivalent
to
to
the
interchange,
and
so
so,
based
on
the
policy
they
were
allowed
to
pay
make
payments
toward
toward
the
policy
based
on
the
number
of
units
that
they
were
constructing
at
the
time.
J
That's
correct
because
they
were
allowed
to
make
payments
towards
those
improvements
instead
either
construct
or
make
the
payments,
and
so
because
the
bar,
based
on
the
timing
of
when
the
bart
station
was
being
constructed
and
the
the
total
amount
of
development
fees
also
for
to
construct
the
interchange
is
it's
just
a
portion
of
the
total.
That's
that's
required
to
build
out
that
interchange,
and
so
until
the
city
fully
has
that
payment
in
place
to
construct
the
interchange.
J
J
So
again,
they
there's
a
distinct
number
of
trips
between
the
north
side
and
the
south
side
based
on
their
construction
and
so
we're
seeing
that,
based
on
the
analysis
of
the
number
of
the
construction
that's
occurred.
J
On
the
north
side,
it
yields
a
certain
amount
of
trips
from
the
north
side,
and
so
we
were
able
to
separate
that
between
the
north
side
and
the
south
side,
based
on
their
total
amount
of
development,
and
so
again
that
yielded
a
total
of
327
trips
that
the
project
has
produced
produced
on
the
north
side,
thus
far
based
on
construction
and
so
the
equivalent
amount
of
trips.
J
Q
Well,
I've
commuted
on
that
section
of
101
and
it
certainly
needs
some
traffic
alleviation
for
sure.
So.
R
I
think
the
other
thing
that
gene
is
saying
is
that
the
the
improvements
that
are
needed
at
the
101
interchange
and
wilson
could
speak
to
those.
If
you
want
to
get
into
more
detail,
they're
very,
very
expensive,
I
mean,
I
think,
we're
still
trying
to
figure
out
what
they're
going
to
cost
but
they're,
very,
very
expensive,
and
so
the
money
that
the
flea
market
be
contributing
would
be,
as
you
know,
a
portion
of
that
larger
expense.
It's
not
like
they
could
go,
build
one
off
ramp
of
the
interchange
right.
R
R
J
Correct
I
mean,
based
on
the
policy
in
2014,
the
total
cost
of
the
interchange
is
roughly
80
million
out
of
that
80
million
36
million
was
is,
is
part
of
the
traffic
impact
fee
program,
subject
to
all
developments
within
the
policy
area,
and
then
the
remaining
44
million
roughly
is
from
regional
funding
and
and
other
funding
from
city
city
of
san
jose
streams,
and
so
again
that
is
24
2014
and
so
in
2021
that's
going
to
be
even
higher,
and
so
we're
not
quite
there.
Yet.
Q
And-
and
you
know,
I'm
not
trying
to
put
you
on
the
spot-
it's
just
the
math
doesn't
doesn't
add
up
to
me
and,
and
so
as
a
result,
we're
going
to
provide
more
entitlements
with
higher
density
and
make
the
land
more
valuable.
Q
It
just
doesn't
doesn't
feel
right.
It
doesn't
add
up
to
me
so,
commissioner,.
T
Q
T
We're
gonna:
I
need
to
move
on
to
the
next
commissioner
and
we'll
come
back
to
you
just
so
that
we
can
give
everybody
an
opportunity.
It
is
11
22
and
we
want
to
give
everybody
an
opportunity
to
ask
some
questions
before
we
sort
of
ask
for
another
motion.
So
we'll
move
on
to
commissioner
vice
chair,
bonilla
next
and
then
commissioner
casey.
P
Well,
thank
you.
It's
been
a
long
night,
so
let
me
begin
by
saying
thank
you
to
everyone
to
to
the
community
for
coming
out
tonight
to
my
peers
for
being
here
tonight.
I
think,
commissioner,
garcia
hit
the
nail
on
the
head.
We
are
simply
community
volunteers
trying
to
serve
trying
to
make
the
best
decision
possible
in
terms
of
moving
the
city
forward.
P
This
is
the
place
that
a
lot
of
us
I'll
speak
for
myself,
who
didn't
have
a
lot
would
would
be
able
to
find
community
would
be
able
to
to
find
my
favorite
pepino
con
limon
the
little
things
right,
the
little
things
that
that
that
make
community
community
you
know
I
I
do
want
to
give
credit
to
the
city.
I
do
want
to
give
credit
as
well
to
to
the
representative
of
the
of
the
landowner,
and
I
think
all
of
my
questions
in
terms
of
time
were
answered.
P
What
I
want
to
get
to
right
now
is
is
is
bigger
than
that.
I
think
one
of
the
members
of
the
audience
brought
up
a
point
and
the
point
was
essentially:
although
the
land
is
private,
we
can't
neglect
the
fact
that
for
60
years,
the
vendors
of
that
flea
market
provided
value,
they
provided
value
to
that
land.
That
candidly,
if
I
remember
correctly
from
when
I
was
a
boy,
there
was
nothing
there,
industrial
ant,
it
was
you
know
dust,
it
was,
you
know,
get
your
parking
spot
over
rocks.
I
remember
that
it
was
it
was.
P
It
was
the
place
where
a
lot
of
us
working
class
folks
would
go
because
it
was
affordable
because
it
felt
like
home,
because
it
was
a
sense
of
community.
It
was
the
one
place
where
we
were
accepted
and
equally
it
was
the
one
place
where
some
of
our
700
plus
vendors
and
generational
vendors
that
have
been
within
that
700
have
been
able
to
start
and
live
the
american
dream.
P
I
I
don't
for
second
ignore
that
I
recognize
the
value.
I
recognize
the
economic
boost
that
you
provide
not
only
to
that
land
to
get
it
to
where
it
is
today,
but
equally
to
the
city
of
san
jose,
because
every
dollar
spent
there
some
form
or
another
ends
up
back
in
the
general
fund
and
ends
up,
as
I
said
yesterday,
ends
up
providing
services
in
other
parts
of
san
jose.
P
But
I
do
feel
right
now
that
we
are.
I
think,
commissioner,
garcia
brought
up
a
good
point,
we're
making
decisions.
I
think
commissioner
torrance
said
something
similar,
but
we're
trying
to
make
a
very
massive
decision
on,
as
someone
said
earlier,
one
of
the
largest
land
use
projects
in
this
city
outside
of
the
the
west
project
over
there
by
the
sap
center
and
and
to
feel
that
we're
trying
to
figure
this
out
at
11
25
actually
good
morning.
P
So
my
thinking
tonight
is
is
really
one
where
I
think
this
commission
is
is
going.
I'm
not
making
a
motion
yet,
but
because
I'm
going
to
have
to
ask
the
city
attorney
some
questions.
But
then
we
may
want
to
consider
tabling
this
with
with
some
legally
allowable
conditions
in
order
to
ensure
that
all
parties,
essentially
for
us
legal
background.
P
This
is
where
we
get
to
play,
judge
where
we
get
to
actually
ask
parties
to
meet
and
confer,
if
that
is
appropriate
for
the
city
attorney
and
equally,
to
give
folks
the
opportunity
to
connect
with
the
city
and
to
give
us
the
opportunity
to
connect
with
the
city
as
well.
In
terms
of
some
of
the
intricacies
and
some
of
the
details
from
tonight.
So
I'm
going
to
put
a
pin
on
that.
Let
you
all
kind
of
sit
on
that
for
a
little
bit.
While
I
ask
our
city
attorney
a
couple
of
questions
vera.
P
N
P
P
It
is
equally,
though
I
I
also
feel,
though,
that
a
lot
of
times
our
hands
get
tied
with
this
whole.
The
general
plan
is
bulletproof.
You
can't
challenge
it.
You
can
challenge
the
constitution,
just
not
the
general
plan
that
that
said.
That
said,
my
thinking,
my
problem
with
that
is
that
I
feel
like
we're.
Kicking
the
can
down
the
road
like
we're,
not
doing
the
filtering
that
needs
to
occur
at
our
level
to
actually
say
to
the
city.
Council.
P
Here
is
our
recommendation.
You
know
one
of
my
mentors
in
this
space.
I
won't
name
the
person
because
I'm
not
gonna
accuse
name
dropping
used
to
always
say
you
know,
make
sure
you
make
your
decisions
and
make
sure
it's
something
that
you
can
stand
by
and
it's
and
it's
something
you
feel
comfortable
moving
forward
polling.
You
know,
as
I'm
listening
to
my
colleagues,
it's
clear
that
majority
are
not
comfortable
and
and
the
idea
that
we're
gonna
be
here
until
two
in
the
morning
trying
to
to
get
a
vote.
N
You
have
some
options
here
if
you
desire
to
continue.
The
next
item
I
believe
on
the
agenda
is
cont
is
closing
the
general
plan
hearing-
and
this
is
the
this-
is
the
first
general
plan
hearing
of
four
that
we
can
potentially
have
this
year.
N
You
could
ask
to
continue
that
first
general
plan
hearing
to
a
date
certain
in
two
weeks,
four
weeks,
you
know
sometime
some
near-term
date.
The
other
option
you
have
is
to
continue
it
to.
Basically,
you
know
continuing
continue
it
to
a
later
hearing,
but
you
have
to
come
up
with
a
date,
certainly,
and
it-
and
it
may
be
another
hearing
cycle-
that
it's
continued
to.
P
Okay,
the
other
question
is
just
for
my
own
clarification
here.
We
are
not
in
a
position
to
direct
hypothetically
if
we
were
to
say
table
it
and
direct
city
staff
to
suggest
strongly
to
the
vendor
association
and
the
land
owner
to
have
discussions
correct.
N
P
N
That
right,
but
you
can
ask
them
to
meet,
you
certainly
can
and
then
they
can
either
do
that
or
not
do
that
and
report
back
what
the
results
are.
P
I
I
want
to
be
reasonable
here
to
all
parties
involved.
I
know
mr
sheena
has
his
hand
up
and-
and
I
know
that
we
will
also
have,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
the
we
have
the
representative
for
the
vendor
association
on
the
line.
I
I
would
like
to
hear
from
both
of
them,
if
they're
amenable
to
to
to
that
time,
what
that
time
looks
like.
Obviously
we
all
we
need
to
be
reasonable.
As
a
commission
I
mean
they're
suggesting
we're
deciding
is
that
is
that
something
my
colleagues
can
can
get
comfortable
with.
P
But
let
me
before
I
ask
you
all.
Let
me
ask
mr
shane
our
since
he's
raising
his
hand.
B
First
of
all,
I
wanted
to
get
clarification
from
the
city
attorney
as
to
our
private
development
application.
I
believe
the
municipal
code
says
that
the
commission
has
60
days
to
make
a
decision.
Otherwise
it's
deemed
a
recommendation
of
denial.
Is
that
not
what
the
municipal
code
says.
N
S
N
B
The
reason
the
reason
I'm
asking
is
what
we
need
to
define
is
what
what
outcome
the
commission
is
trying
to
achieve.
It's
it's
improbable
in
60
days
that
there's
going
to
be
a
plan
for
a
new
location
for
a
flea
market.
It's
not
going
to
happen.
B
G
A
point
of
order-
I
just
want
to
ask
charlie
I
mean
we
have
you
know
by
cerbonia,
suggested
that
we
talked
to
mr
shanauer
and
to
the
representative
from
the
vendors
association.
But
are
we
even
allowed
to
do
that
outside
of
public
comment?
G
G
N
N
B
So
vice
chair
bonilla,
you,
you
asked
if
we're
willing
to
communicate.
Of
course,
we
are,
we've
been
doing
it
for
20
years,
so
that
that's
a
task
that
we
can
easily
do
in
the
time
frame
available.
But
once
again,
I'm
not
sure
what
the
outcome
would
be.
P
Just
so
we're
on
the
same
page,
look
I'm
not
looking
for
you
all
to
solve
everything.
I
get
that
I
get
that,
for
example,
the
issue
of
fairgrounds
or
another
site
is
not
something
that's
going
to
get
resolved
within
a
60-day
window,
but
I
think
there
are
issues
regarding,
for
example,
issues
in
terms
of
displacement
fund
issues.
Regarding
I
mean
really,
you
know
when
it
sounds
like
we've
got
two
parties
here
where
we're
being
asked
to
read
minds
at
almost
midnight
on
on.
P
Arguably
the
largest
deal
property
development
in
in
san
jose
outside
of
the
downtown
project.
I
just
don't
see
I
mean
I'm
hearing
my
colleagues.
I
just
do
not
see
how
we
make
this
choice
tonight
when
my
colleagues
are
being
very
clear
about
the
fact
that
we
don't
have
enough
information
when
we've
got
about
200
people
on
the
line
saying
you
know
we're
not
being
heard
and
I'm
not
saying
you're,
not
communicating.
P
Both
parties
are
the
place
where
there's
no
agreement,
then
there's
no
agreement,
but
at
least
as
a
commission,
we
have
done
our
due
diligence
on
behalf
of
the
the
the
overall
public
on
behalf
of
the
candidate,
the
the
the
the
the
middle
of
the
road
here
for
both
the
vendors
and
the
landowner.
P
But
I
don't
necessarily
think
that
there's
a
middle
of
the
road
quite
yet
because
we're
getting
it
in
bits
and
pieces
and
it
requires
in
my
mind
both
of
you
kind
of
coming
together,
at
the
very
least
with
a
framework
that
may
or
may
not
come
to
fruition.
But
but
just
get
you
talking.
T
So
at
this
time,
commissioner
unia,
I
have
that
you
have
two
minutes
left.
I
know
vera's
looking
at
some.
P
Let
me
let
me
just
do
this,
then.
Let
me
just
go
ahead
and
put
the
motion
on
the
floor.
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
that
we
table
this
item
for
the
next
meeting
of
the
san
jose
planning.
Commission.
That
is
your
date.
Certain.
T
Okay,
so
we
have
a
a
a
motion
by
vice
chair
bonilla
to
defer
this
me,
this
item
and
the
public
general
plan
public
hearing
until
I
believe
the
next
meeting
is
april.
14Th.
N
N
Okay,
go
ahead,
what
it
says
is
I'm
looking
at
section,
20.120.040
of
the
zoning
ordinance
and
subsection
b
says
that
if
the
planning
commission
fails
to
hold
or
complete
a
public
hearing
within
60
days
after
the
date
noticed
for
the
public
hearing,
the
council
may
deem
said
failure
to
constitute
a
recommendation
by
the
commission
that
the
proposed
ordinance
not
be
adopted
and
may
then
proceed
to
adopt
the
ordinance.
N
Notwithstanding
the
failure
of
the
commission
to
hold
and
complete
the
public
hearing
or
submit
its
reporter
recommendation
to
the
council,
all
it
says
is
it
goes
to
the
council
without
a
recommendation
of
the
planning
commission.
If
you
failed
to
hold
or
complete
the
public
hearing
within
60
days
of
the
date
noticed,
so
it
was
noticed
for
today.
If
you
go
to
april
14th.
N
What
is
that
a
couple
of
weeks
out
now
a
few
weeks
out
yeah,
and
so
you
should
be
able
to
complete
everything
within
the
60
days
and
we
can
have
staff
mark
that
time
for
you.
I
haven't
counted
out
the
60
days
yet,
but
april
14th
would
work
for
that.
Okay,.
T
So
we
have
a,
we
have
a
motion
and
we
have
a
second
from
commissioner
torrence.
I
also
see
that
rosalind
our
planning
director
has
her
hand
up,
and
I'm
wondering
if
this
is
to
provide
any
additional
clarification
on
this
decision.
E
Thank
you
chair.
I
appreciate
that.
I
think
that,
in
the
spirit
of
offering
options
for
the
planning
commission
to
consider,
I
also
just
wanted
to
offer
an
option
would
be
if
there
are
specific
items
that
the
commission
wished
for
staff
to
study,
that
they
could
detail
those.
E
And
if
you
wish
to
make
a
recommendation
to
the
city
council,
you
could
provide
those
as
comments
in
terms
of
additional
things
for
staff
or
the
applicant
or
items
that
you
would
like
to
see
address
as
part
of
your
recommendation.
T
Thank
you
very
much
rosalind
before
I
go
back
to
either
the
person
who
made
the
motion
or
the
seconder.
I
want
to
recognize,
commissioner.
Casey
who's
been
waiting
to
to
make
his
first
set
of
comments.
T
Okay,
so
why
don't
we
go
ahead
and
move
for
discussion
on
the
motion?
So
if
you
have
your
hand
up-
and
you
want
to
discuss
the
motion,
keep
it
up
if
you
do,
if
you
want
to
not
disclose
the
motion,
please
lower
your
hand.
N
N
And
there
was
no
direction
for
staff
to
come
back
with
anything
at
that
point,.
D
N
It
should
be
done
within
the
confines
of
this
meeting.
If
you
have
any
questions,
obviously
you
can
send
them
to
staff,
but
if
you
want
a
direct
staff
to
come
back
with
something
to
come
back
with
additional
information,
something
that
you
wanted
to
you
know
whatever.
That
needs
to
happen
now
that
you
know
that
is
probably
the
primary
reason
for
continuing
to
april
14th
is
that
you
want
something
additional.
G
F
Paid
a
great
deal
amount
of
money
for
the
infrastructure
that
his
client
has
benefited
from,
and
the
idea
what
was
intimated
that
the
win-win
intimated
that
the
city
would
somehow
the
owners
would
be
put
on
the
city
to
take
care
of
this
flea
market
issue
for
them
and
they
would
move
on
with
their
development.
So
from.
T
All
that
a
request
for
an
amendment
to
the
current
motion.
P
R
P
N
G
T
Okay,
commissioner,
garcia
did
you
have
anything
else
other
than
the
clarification
on
the
timing
at
this
point,
or
would
you.
Q
P
I
I,
if
I'm
open
to
doing
30.,
that's
that's
fine
vera.
Does
that
mean
I
have
to
kill
off
my
own
motion
and
make
a
new
motion
or.
N
Yeah
I
I
realized
that,
after
push
the
button,
sorry
about
that
yeah,
you
might
want
to
withdraw
the
motion
with
the
agreement
of
the
seconder
and
then
just
make
a
new
motion
for
the
30
days,
along
with
the
staff
coming
back.
Exploring
the
potential
of
a
community
benefit
agreement,
option.
P
Commissioner
torrence,
are
you
okay
with
me
withdrawing
the
current
april
14th
arrangement
and
coming
back
with
a
30
day.
N
A
study
remember,
however,
their
study
session
is
to
provide
the
commission
with
information
and
get
comments
from
the
commission,
but
it's
not
to
work
out
the
details.
You're
not
going
to
be
directing
staff
to
do
anything
as
a
result
of
a
study
session,
and
I
want
to
make
clear
about
that.
You
know
you
can
ask
questions
and
whatever
express
concerns,
but
the
commission,
as
a
group,
will
not
be
making
a
recommendation
of
the
study
session.
M
Right
and
that
that
would
be
I'd
be
okay
with
that.
I
just
think
it
would
help
our
clarity.
P
P
Okay,
so
now
that
it's
withdrawn,
I
will
make
a
motion
that
the
item
be
continued
30
days
from
now,
or
the
planning
commission
meeting
date
closest
to
30
days
from
now.
E
Correct,
okay
is
that
right,
4
28
chair,
I
I
would
suggest
perhaps
the
first
meeting
date
in
may.
We
we
have
some
projects
already
lined
up
for
the
april
28th
meeting
that
I
think,
would
be
a
long
meeting.
P
And
does
that
still
meet
the
the
the
deadline
vera.
P
E
P
T
Okay,
so
that
is
included,
I'm
going
to
go
back
through
the
list,
based
on
the
way
that
folks
raised
their
hands,
I'm
going
to
actually
take
chair
prerogative
just
to
make
a
couple
of
quick
comments
before
we.
We
continue
just
to
thank
all
of
the
speakers.
T
I
understand
how
emotional
and
how
passionate
people
are
about
this.
Balancing
progress
should
not
be
done
on
the
backs
of
folks
who
have
been
traditionally
oppressed,
especially
folks,
who
contribute
to
our
economy
in
in
ways
large
and
small.
I
think
that
there
are
opportunities
here
to
get
more
concrete
ideas
and
so
on
on
how
to
come
to
some
some
resolution.
I
do
have
a
very
direct
question.
T
I
recognize
that
I
think
the
escobaros
and
perhaps
mariana
mejia,
who
represent
the
business
association,
are
still
on
the
line
and
I'd
like
them
to
be
unmuted.
Have
you,
my
very
direct
question
is:
have
you
ever
directly
met
with
the
landowners
related
to
the
letter
and
the
request
that
you
have
made
for
community
benefits
for
relocation
and
for
potential
temp,
10
retail,
as
we're
outlined
in
your
letter?
T
F
T
Darn
it!
What
about
the
escobedos.
T
Okay,
kayla
has
her
hand
up.
No,
we
have
not
okay.
Thank
you.
That's
very
helpful.
So,
okay,
that
was
the
one
question.
I
just
really
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
got
a
confirmed
answer
from
the
the
association.
So
this
time
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
recognize
commissioner
lardinwa
for
either
discussion
on
the
motion
or
additional
questions.
G
N
Yes,
and
and
what
I,
what
I
wanted
to
also
clarify,
and
I'm
sorry
to
interrupt
you,
commissioner,
lardinwa
no
worse
before
I
forget,
commissioner,
garcia
made
a
friendly
amendment
again
and
is
that
included
in
the
motion,
and
that
was
for
staff
to
come
back
with
community
benefit
agreement
option,
and
I'm
assuming
that
you
know.
I
would
like
clarification,
because
I
think
staff
is
concerned
that
they're
not
going
to
come
back
with
any
kind
of
an
agreement.
T
And
that
was
commissioner
casey
yeah.
Yes,
not,
commissioner,
garcia.
I'm
sorry,
it's
okay,
commissioner!
Casey.
Are
you
amenable
to
that
rephrasing.
N
Well,
I
don't.
I
don't
know
that
we
can
ask
the
owner
and
the
vendors
to
come
to
an
agreement
in
30
days,
and
I
don't
know
that
we
can
force
an
agreement
within
30
days
or
any
time.
So
I
think
we
need
to
explore
the
concept
and
advise
the
planning
commission,
whether
that
could
be
a
condition
of
approval
and
how
how
that
could
be
accomplished
if
it
can
be
accomplished.
N
Yeah
and
so,
but
I
wanted
to
also
make
sure
that
your
friendly
amendment
was
part
of
that
motion.
And
I
didn't
hear
that
the
second
time
from
from
commissioners
benian
torrens.
P
If,
if
the
friendly
amendment
from
commissioner
casey
was
accepted
by
by
us.
P
N
G
I
just
told
some
comments
on
the
motion
just
well.
I
guess
comments
about
comments.
I
I
still
have
a
lot
of
thoughts
about
this
flea
market
issue
and
some
ideas
too
on
potential
ways
to
move
forward
here
and
perhaps
other
commissioners
do
as
well.
So
I
just
don't
want
to
cut
that
off
early
by
voting
on
this
motion
immediately.
That's
that's!
That's
my
concern
right
now.
P
T
Yeah
there's
a
there's
several
commissioners
who
are
still
who
still
have
their
hands
up,
so
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
call
on
commissioner
olivario
next
and
then
commissioner,
garcia.
L
Thank
you
chair,
so
that
there's
no
ambiguity
or
discrepancy
when
the
continuance
is,
is
that
going
to
be
a
new
public
hearing
or
a
closed
public
hearing?
That's
for
the
maker
of
the
motion.
T
N
L
Okay,
great
and
then
I
think
one
of
my
commissioner
colleagues
mentioned
a
community
benefit
because
of
the
payment
of
the
freeway
interchange.
L
It's
been
pretty
common
for
cities,
including
san
jose,
okay,
that
private
projects
that
employ
people
and
generate
tax
revenue
are
unable
to
pay
for
those
things,
but
they
pay
for
towards
them,
which
is
the
case
of
valley,
fair
santana
row,
cisco
systems,
highway
87.
L
So
it's
it's
not
unusual,
but
if
people
want
to
explore
that
more,
that's
certainly
fine,
and
then
I
appreciate
vera
providing
the
background
to
say
that
if
the
planning
commission
is
unable
to
act
on
this
item,
then
the
city
council
can
pick
up
the
ball.
So
thank
you.
L
T
Okay,
so
we
will
take
a
roll
call
vote
at
this
point.
If
we
don't
reach
consensus,
then
we
will
figure
out.
What's
next.
T
Okay,
so
are
we
ready
to
make
a
decision
vice
chairman.
D
A
T
P
H
A
T
R
N
O
N
To
just
move
forward
with
the
voting,
and
so
they
voted
6-1
with
lard
and
wando
to
close
the
debate
tonight
and
and
bring
the
motion
to
a
vote
with
the
two
friendly
amendments
which
are,
you
know,
can
staff
they
want
to
continue
to
may
12th
and
staff
to
come
back
with
an
evaluation
of
community
benefit
agreement.
You
know
whether
or
not
we
you
know
the
feasibility
and
process
for
doing
that
if
it
is
feasible
and
then
there
was
also
the
motion
included
that
the
that
the
continued
meeting
we
would
only
be
hearing.
T
Yes,
and
just
to
reiterate
very
just
did
but
motion
is
to
continue
the
public
hearing
until
the
may
12th
meeting.
It
will
be
a
closed
public
hearing.
There
will
be
if
we
are
directing
staff
to
do
a
feasibility
study
on
or
a
feasibility
report
on,
whether
on
community
public
benefit.
Q
Then
I
vote
no,
because
so
there's
too
many
changes
here
because
there's
more
debate
that
needs
to
happen.
Can't
we
just
continue
and
pause.
Is
it
a
true
continuance.
C
T
Q
L
This
fund
going
so
now
there's
no
longer
a
majority
to
close
the
debate.
N
Well,
you
know
the
other
comment,
though,
is
also
remember
the
60
days
in
the
zoning
code,
and,
and
so
this
can
move
forward
to
council
without
a
recommendation.
If
the
commission
is
going
to
continue
continuing
the
meetings
and
asking
additional
questions
at
some
point,
this
has
to
end
or
the
council
can
take
action
without
the
commission's
recommendation.
N
So
pardon
me.
Q
I'd
like
to
make
a
substitute
motion
to
deny
the
recommendation.
P
Q
Q
Q
T
Q
I
think
there's
too
many
too
many
challenges
with
it.
I
think
you
know
we're
we.
This
community
has
spoken,
they
don't
feel
there's
been
enough
collaboration.
There
clearly
hasn't.
If
that's
what
they're
saying
and
I
I
can't
see,
eliminating
all
these
small
businesses
and
these
closing
down
employment
of
the
flea
market
represents
the
historic
significance.
I
think
the
historic
report
being
over
15
years
old
is
is
not.
Q
I
think
there
should
be
a
new
report.
There's
you
know,
there's
a
letter
from
2007
from
the
historic
commission
of
san
jose.
That
clearly
opposes
this.
You
know
the
the
closing
you
know
the
entitlements
to
close
down
the
flea
market
and
we're
just
disregarding
it,
and
I
can't
I
can't
I
don't
agree
with
it.
T
So
actually,
commissioner,
olivario
seconded
the
motion.
Yes,
so
I'm
gonna
recognize
him
to
speak
and
then
we'll
go
through
the
commissioners.
If
you,
if
you
want
to
continue
to
speak,
have
discussion
on
this
item
before
we
call
the
question:
please
raise
your
hands
so
commissioner,
oliverio.
L
So
this
question
is
for
vera
and
maybe
planning
staff
or
both,
so
the
mtc
metropolitan
transfer
commission
gave
us,
I
think,
a
substantial
amount
of
money
to
actually
do
the
planning
for
this.
If
we
were
to,
if
the
planning
commission
were
to
deny
it
would
mtc,
say
yeah,
I
want
that
money
back.
N
Planning
is
more
familiar
with
the
contract,
but
you
know
mtc
doesn't
govern
legislative
actions
by
the
city
and
that's
what
this
leads
to
I
mean
the
only
people
that
can
make
legislation
are
the
city,
council
and
you're
the
only
people
that
can
make
you
know
formal
recommendations
to
the
council
on
zoning
issues
and
on
general
plan
amendments
and
by
the
charter,
and
you
know
the
mtc
has
no
authority
to
make
final
decisions,
but
the
contract
may
include
language.
I
don't
recall
any.
R
L
If,
if
the
commission
were
to
deny
this,
how
would
that
affect
the
future
relationship
of
mtc
in
the
city?
Would
it
be
no
big
deal
or
would
they
lose
confidence
and
our
ability
to
act
in
a
smart
growth
manner?.
E
Thank
you,
commissioner.
I
think.
First
of
all,
I
think
the
commission
would
recognize
staff's
work
and
staff's
recommendation
both
on
the
urban
planning
urban
village
plan,
as
well
as
this
flea
market.
Rezoning
also
just
a
reminder
that
the
action
that
I
believe
the
the
commission
is
considering
now
is
a
recommendation
to
the
city
council
to
deny
and.
E
L
And
then,
if
someone
can
remind
me
on
a
if
the
planning
commission
denies,
the
applicant
can
appeal
to
the
city
council
or
it
just
it
dies
here
again,.
E
L
N
Correct
and
yeah
the
council,
the
planning
commission
has
no
authority
to
adopt
general
plan
or
zoning
amendments.
Only
the
authority
to
recommend.
F
N
Sure,
if
it's
appropriate
to
do
so,
if
it's
legal,
if
it's
legally
authorized
to
become
a
condition
of
approval.
Yes,
but
you
know,
we
need
to
look
into
what
exactly
a
community
benefit
agreement
is
and
what
it
means.
L
Legal
one,
a
legal
topic
at
that
point:
besides
a
policy
decision
because
you've
already
taken
action
to
request
and
the
applicant
fulfilled
your
request
now,
you're
saying
well,
thanks
for
fulfilling
my
request,
I'm
going
to
charge
you
for
that
now.
N
Different
different
council
different
day
wow,
they
may
well.
They
make
no
commitment
to
approve
something.
They
haven't
conditions
change,
there's
no
commitment,
they
they
did
not
pass
anything
or
you
know
whatever
they
may
have
said.
This
is
what
we
would
like
to
see,
but
until
they,
you
know,
get
a
vote
on
approval
of
a
plan.
L
Yeah,
no,
I'm
fine.
I
appreciate
everyone's
comments.
I
just
think
this
is
why
the
development
community
sometimes
has
a
sour
look
on
san
jose
because
of
changing
your
mind
and
making
decisions
and
saying
it's
a
new
council
this
and
that
or
a
new
policy.
But
when
you're
things
are
at
level,
this
level
of
complication,
this
level
of
density,
et
cetera
and
the
in
the
sequel
process
and
then
to
change
gears.
Is
you
know
it's
just
a
bad
fare,
but
again
just
one
person
very
much.
N
G
Is
that
background
noise?
A
problem?
No
okay,
so
I
guess
right
now
we
have
this
emotional
table
to
recommend
a
denial,
but
I
don't
think
that's
I
mean
from
what
I'm
hearing
from
my
colleagues
here.
I
don't
think
that
there's
a
desire
to
actually
have
city
council
deny
the
urban
village
play
on
the
rezoning
it
sounds
like
folks
are.
G
It
sounds
like
this
is
being
considered
as
a
kind
of
indirect
way
to
get
to
a
better
resolution
on
this
flea
market
issue,
which
I
totally
I
mean
I
I
want
to
find
that
too,
and
this
whole
win-win
thing
we're
talking
about,
but
it
just
seems
like.
Maybe
this
isn't
the
right
procedural
way
to
be
doing
this,
and
also
I
don't.
G
Think
a
denial
when
that's
not
actually
what
we
want,
I
think,
is
a
strange
thing
to
do
and
I
think
also,
if
we
just
give
a
flat,
clean
denial
recommendation
that
doesn't
really
tell
city
council
how
to
fix
the
issue.
So.
G
I
I
think
whatever
we
recommend
should
at
least
give
a
suggestion
of
a
path
forward
to
try
and
find
a
resolution
for
the
future
of
the
flea
market,
and
I
understand
that
folks
feel
like
they
can't
make
a
decision
tonight.
Just
because
it's
been
you
know,
we've
been
here
almost
six
hours
now,
but
I
don't
think
this
particular
emotion
is
the
way
to
do
it.
T
Thank
you,
commissioner,
bonilla
and
then
back
to
commissioner
garcia.
P
Which
is
why
I
I
wanted,
I
think,
to
chair
caballero
asked
a
very
good
question.
You
know
has
there
ever
been,
and
this
is
actually
why
I
wanted
two
viewpoints.
The
land
owner
representative
and
the
association
representative.
Have
there
ever
been
official
negotiations
again
we're
trying
to
read
minds
we're
trying
to
get
to
a
resolution
when,
when,
when
we
clearly
know
that
both
parties
have
to
get
together?
Obviously,
if
if
we,
if
left
to
no
choice,
clearly
I'm
going
to
vote
no,
because
I
cannot
support
anything
that
is
going
to
displace
700
people.
P
On
the
other
hand,
I
I
think,
as
professionals
as
planning
commissioners,
I
do
have
a
bit
of
a
problem
with
us.
Just
kicking
the
can
down
the
road
with
this
record
right.
There
is
a
record
of
this
and
when,
when
when,
when
the
city
council
reads
our
record-
and
it
says
they
couldn't
figure
out
emotion
from
a
secondary
emotion
from
you
know,
and
therefore
they
reject
it.
I
think
that's
that's
the
problem.
I
I
do
think
we're,
although
we're
a
young
group
in
terms
of
commissioners
and
experience.
P
I
think
this
is
a
great
opportunity
for
all
of
us
to
come
together
and
get
to
a
place,
that's
reasonable
and
just
to
be
clear,
it
may
very
well
be
that
on
the
30-day
mark
you
know
both
parties
come
back
and
say
you
know
what
we
came
to
no
agreement,
but
we
we're
trying
to
get
people
to
talk,
and
at
that
point
we
have
to
do
an
up
and
down
vote
and
it'll
go
where
it
needs
to
go.
P
But
to
me
there
there
is
a
level
of
sophistication
that
the
moment
requires
that
it
does
require
that
we
have
those
conversations
and
and
and
really
what
we're
waiting
for
is
the
answers.
I
think
we
all
know
where
we
all
stand.
I
think
what
we're
waiting
for
is
answers,
we're
waiting
for
answers
from
the
city,
we're
waiting
for
answers
to
see
if
the
to
the
two
parties
party,
a
the
the
land
owner
party
b,
the
the
representative
for
the
vendors,
had
a
chance
to
get
together.
Those
were
really
the
new
facts.
P
T
Yeah,
so
I
also
cannot
support
this
motion.
I
don't
think
this
is
the
right
direction
to
go.
I
don't
think
that
this
gives
us
the
opportunity
to
actually
make
recommendations
to
the
city
about
the
path
forward.
I
think
that
this
is
trying
to
force
us
into
making
a
bad
choice
that
then
lets
the
city
council
a
little
bit
off
the
hook
from
making
the
even
tougher
choice
and
doesn't
take
into
account
the
hours
and
hours
of
community
testimony
that
we
heard
so
I
can.
T
G
If
I
could
just
follow
up
on
what
you
said,
I
mean
I
I
came
from
the
housing
commission
where
it
was
always
recommendation.
There
were
no
policy
areas
where
we
had
a
final
set
on
anything,
and
you
know,
council
doesn't
always
listen
to
recommendations,
that's
fine,
but
that's
on
them.
I
don't
I,
but
I
don't
feel
comfortable,
saying
we're.
Just
basically
not
gonna
make
a
recommendation
kind
of
just
blow
the
thing
up
and
say
you
guys
fix
it
because
then
that's
not
us
doing
our
jobs.
So
thank
you.
P
P
Would
you
be
open
to
withdrawing
your
motion
and
allowing
for
the
30-day
motion
to
come
back
on
on
the
table?
I
don't
want
to
outvote
your
emotion,
I'd
prefer
to
if
you're
open
to
it
prefer
to
withdraw
it
and
then
give
me
the
space.
So
we
could
kind
of
work
this
out
as
a
group
and
to
those
out
there
watching,
including
staff,
hey,
look,
look,
sometimes
the
making
of
the
sausage
isn't
pretty,
but
for
what
it's
worth?
This
is
the
first
major
decision
of
this
body
with
new
members.
P
So
you
know
we're
going
to
do
our
due
diligence,
we're
going
to
recognize
that
everyone
is
also
trying
to
catch
up
and
at
the
end
of
the
day
we
have
a
duty
to
the
city.
We
have
a
duty
to
make
sure
we
do
this
in
a
way
that
is
fair
and
equitable
and
in
a
way
that,
for
me
personally,
coming
out
of
district
five
ensures
that
there's
a
level
of
protection
for
700
people
whose
lives
are
dependent
on
on
on
being
vendors
there.
P
Now,
I
think
there
are
great
opportunities
there
in
terms
of
alternatives,
but
I
think,
as
a
commission,
we
have
a
duty
to
have
those
conversations
and
to
get
those
answers.
So
with
that
commissioner,
garcia
to
the
earlier
question,
or
would
you
be
okay
with
drawing
and
supporting
the
earlier
motion.
Q
Well,
so,
to
explain
it
further.
The
reason
that
I
I
went
with
the
recommendations
to
to
deny
is
because
what
I
heard
was
from
the
developer
was
two
weeks
is
not
enough
time
to
come
to
an
agreement
and.
Q
Staff
said
that
you
know
that
the
load
is
heavy
and-
and
you
know
we've
got
to
go
out
a
certain
period
of
time,
and
so
I
don't
know
that
60
days
is
giving
you
enough
to
come
to.
You
know
to
come
to
some
consensus.
That's
a
win-win
right.
So
if
it
doesn't
result
in
a
win-win
and
then
we
wind
up
not
making
a
recommendation,
that's
worse
right!
So
you
know,
and
then
you
know
so
not
making
a
recommendation
to
me
is
worse
than.
P
Q
Well,
the
public
is,
you
know.
Today
we
were
put
in
a
position
where
the
public
was
cut
off
from
school
right.
We
had.
We
had
two
two
two
items
to
discuss,
but
they
only
had
two
minutes.
They
really
should
have
gotten
four
minutes
each
right,
and
unfortunately,
that
means
that
we
sit
here
for
hours
and
hours,
but
they're
entitled
to
be
heard
right.
That.
P
N
I
N
G
N
G
N
Q
No,
but
we
we
could
also
vote
on
my
motion
and
and
the
second
and
if
it
fails.
P
T
B
T
All
right,
so,
the
motion
on
the
floor
is
to
deny
the
staff
recommendation
for
items.
Eight,
eight
sorry
for
someone,
okay,
which
was
given
by
commissioner
garcia
and
seconded
by
commissioner
olivario,
we'll
call
vote
vice
chairman.
T
Okay,
commissioner
casey.
F
T
Okay,
commissioner,
garcia
hi,
commissioner
lardinon.
B
A
N
I
have
it
as
a
three
to
four
three
eyes
and
four
nose
and
the
nose
are
casey
lardonwa,
oliverio
and
caballero.
G
G
Q
T
All
right
so
we're
back
to
a
roll
call
vote
on
the
original
motion,
which
is
to
continue
the
public
hearing
for
the
general
plan
on
items
8a
and
8b,
with
a
request
staff
for
30
days
or
I'm
sorry
to
may
12th
correct
per
per
staff's
request
with
a
request
to
do
a
feasibility
report
on
community
benefits
package.
G
T
Okay,
michael.
R
N
Yeah
and
that,
so
that's
a
that's
an
amendment
to
the
original
motion,
because
the
original
motion
it
had
council
excuse
me:
commission
member
olivio,
said
that
we
would
only
hear
commissioner
comments
and
staff
responses
at
the
may
hearing.
So
that's
been
dropped
from
motion.
So,
let's
make
sure.
F
I
thought
you
were
gonna
open
public
comment
contingent
upon,
commissioner
garcia,
removing
his
motion.
P
T
Commissioner
torrence,
are
you
amenable
to
the
amendment
to
the
change
to
the
motion.
M
Honestly,
I'd
rather
not
open
public
comment
again
that
we
can
just
continue
where
we
are
at
tonight,
because
I
think
tonight
we're
just
kind
of
brain
dead
and,
like
commissioner
bonilla
was
saying,
we
need
time
to
be
fresh
and
if
we
listen
to
public
comment
again,
we're
not
gonna
be
fresh.
We're
gonna
be
back
where
we
were
again
tonight,
so
my
feeling
is
continue
this
on
may
12th,
but
not
with
community
input,
but
I
can
go
either
way
on
that.
That's
just
my
my
gut
instinct
in
my
brain
dead
state.
P
If
I
could
just
respectfully
say
at
this
point,
let's
just
open
it
up
and
I
mean
honestly
we're
waiting
for
certain
answers.
I
think
at
this
point
we
all
kind
of
know
what
we're
looking
for
just
my
two
cents.
N
R
T
Jared
and
and
then
commissioner.
Q
Thank
you
chair,
just
a
quick
clarification
for
for.
G
Vera
with
the
continuation
of
the
general
plan,
public
hearing,
we're
like
because
we'll
be
deferring
this
item
from
its
originally
scheduled
council
date,
we'll
probably
run
into
the
next
scheduled
general
plan
hearing
cycle
that
we
are
planning
on.
G
N
It
could
work
either
way
you
can.
You
can
continue
this
general
plan
hearing
cycle
or
you
can
just
ask
the
can
ask
the
commission
if
it's
okay,
to
continue
it
into
the
next
cycle,
because
I
think
you're
coming
back
with
what
google
in
april.
G
Other
a
handful
of
other
items
going
to
so.
N
G
R
G
Q
It
would
that
be,
may
you
know,
probably
so.
N
If
commissioners,
if
commissioners,
bonilla
and
torrens
will
also-
and
I
know
this
is
more
of
an
administrative
issue
than
an
issue
for
the
commission,
if
we
notice
this
for
may
12,
then
can
we
also
continue
this
to
whatever
hearing
cycle
general
plan
hearing
cycle
would
cover
that
meeting
date
is
that,
okay,
with
you.
R
N
No
because
you
were
planning
on
this
being
cycle
one
anyway,
and
so,
if
you're
just
moving
it
to
another
cycle,
it's
not
taking
away
anything
from
what
you're
originally
planning
but
yeah.
So
what
you
would
do
is
close
the
hearing,
but
make
sure
that
you
continue
this
item
too
another
hearing
cycle
to
be
heard
on
may
12.
T
Michael,
you
still
have
your
hand
up,
I'm
assuming
that's
from
before:
yeah,
okay,
you're,
good,
okay,
let's
go
ahead
and
take
a
vote
on
the
motion.
T
N
N
R
N
Do
it
really,
I
will
do
it
really
really
quickly.
The
motion
is
to
continue
the
hearing
to
may
12th
for
items
eight
a
and
eight
b,
and
that
would
be
during
whatever
hearing
cycle
that
is
on
may
12th
general
plan
hearing
cycle.
It
is
on
may
12th,
with
a
feasibility
with
a
supplemental
report
to
the
commission
on
the
feasibility
of
of
potentially
doing
a
community
benefit
agreement
and,
if
feasible,
what
would
the
process
be
for
doing
that
and
to
open?
The
public
comment
comments
up
again
at
that
hearing
on
may
12th.
T
N
Bonilla
and
torrens:
yes,
yes,.
T
T
T
T
Let's
go
ahead
and
take
a
quick
vote,
commissioner.
Bonilla.