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From YouTube: OCT 12, 2022 | Planning Commission
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City of San José, California
Planning Commission meeting, October 12, 2022.
This public meeting will be conducted via Zoom Webinar. For information on public participation via Zoom, please refer to the linked meeting agenda below.
Agenda: pending
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Welcome
to
the
Planning
Commission
meeting,
this
meeting
is
held
being
helping
web
due
to
the
covid
crisis.
Members
of
the
public
May
participate
in
the
meeting
by
following
the
instructions
listed
on
the
agenda.
You
may
also
View
and
listen
to
the
meeting
on
the
live
stream,
cable,
TV,
the
city
website
and
YouTube
following
roll
call.
B
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B
And
somebody
has
a
lot
of
noise
in
their
background,
so
you
can
mute
it's
a
kind
of
like
a
fax
machine
or
not
a
fax
machine,
some
type
of
like
machine
all
right.
So
here's
our
summary
of
hearing
procedures.
The
procedure
for
the
hearing
is
as
follows.
After
a
staff
report,
applicants
and
appellants
may
make
a
five
minute
presentation.
B
B
In
addition,
you
may
call
408-535-3505
or
email
planning,
support
staff
at
San
jose.gov
and
identify
your
name
number
and
what
item
you
would
like
to
speak
on,
as
your
name
is
called
City
staff
will
unmute
you
to
speak
after
we
confirm
your
audio
is
working.
Your
allotted
time
will
begin.
Each
speaker
will
have
up
to
two
minutes.
Speakers
using
a
translator
will
have
double
the
time
after
the
public
testimony
the
applicant
and
appellant
may
make
closing
marks
for
an
additional
five
minutes.
B
Planning
Commissioners
may
not
ask
questions
of
the
speakers.
Pardon
me
may
ask
questions
of
the
speakers
response
to
the
commissioner.
Questions
will
not
reduce
the
speaker's
time
allowance
staff
will
unmute
the
speaker
to
respond
to
the
commissioner.
The
public
hearing
will
be
closed
and
then
the
Planning
Commission
will
take
action
on
the
item.
The
Planning
Commission
May
request
staff
to
respond
to
the
public
testimony
ask
staff
questions
and
discuss
the
item.
B
If
you
challenge
these
land
use
decisions
in
court,
you
may
be
limited
to
raising
only
those
issues
you
or
someone
else
raised
at
this
public
hearing
or
in
written
correspondence
delivered
to
the
city
or
prior
to
the
public
hearing
the
planning
commission's
actions
on
rezonings
pre-zonings,
General
plan
amendments
and
code
amendments
is
advisory
to
the
city
council.
The
city
council
will
hold
public
hearings
on
these
items.
Section
20.120.400
of
the
municipal
code
provides
the
procedures
for
legal
protests
to
the
city
council
on
rezonings
and
pre-zonings.
B
The
planning
commission's
action,
unconditional
use
permits
is
appealable
to
the
city
council
in
accordance
with
section
200.100.220
of
the
municipal
code.
So
now
we
will
call
to
order,
and
before
we
begin,
I
always
want
to
remind
the
Planning,
Commission
members
and
members
of
the
public
to
follow
our
code
of
conducted
meetings.
This
includes
commenting
on
the
specific
agenda
item
only
and
addressing
the
full
body.
Public
speakers
will
not
engage
in
a
conversation
with
the
Commissioners
or
staff.
All
members
of
the
Planning
Commission
staff
and
the
public
are
expected
to
refrain
from
abusive
language.
B
Repeated
failure
to
comply
with
the
code
of
conduct
will
just
which
will
disturb,
disrupt
or
impede
the
order
of
conduct
of
this
meeting.
May
result
in
removal
of
the
from
the
meeting
this
meeting
the
Planning
Commission
will
now
come
to
order.
We
are
now
on
item
two,
which
is
public
comment,
and
this
is
for
members
of
the
public
that
would
like
to
speak
on
anything
that
is
not
on
our
agenda
planning
staff.
Are
there
any
hands
for
public
comment.
A
C
Good
evening
planning
Commissioners
I've
driven
and
walked
throughout
the
city.
Most
of
my
life,
and
one
thing
that's
always
concerned
me-
is
the
issue
with
the
sidewalk
repair.
Just
by
driving
a
few
blocks
or
walking
down
the
street
in
San,
Jose
you'll
find
a
broken
uneven.
C
Unsafe,
sidewalks
I
think
there
should
be
a
a
team
in
the
city
that
concentrates
solely
on
sidewalk
repairs
to
protect
our
children
and
our
community
there's
been
a
few
close
calls
where
I
almost
went
face
first,
due
to
uneven
sidewalks
if
sidewalks
are
not
safe
to
walk
on
the
pedestrians
and
will
make
their
way
into
the
street,
and
that
will
be
another
safety
concern
right
for
the
community.
C
I
think
we
should
even
contract
some
concrete
companies
that
can
do
the
work
for
for
the
city
and
start
off
starting
off
around
schools
and
senior
centers.
Thank
you.
A
C
Can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
okay,
perfect,
sorry
about
that?
Okay,
thank
you!
Brian,
commission,
good
evening
my
name
is
and
I'm
a
resident
of
East
San,
Jose
Alum
Rock
area
to
be
exact.
C
The
work
on
Alum
Rock
Avenue
in
between
White
Road
and
Capital
Avenue,
the
repayment
work.
I
am
very,
very
happy.
That's
being
done
and
I
like
to
thank
you
for
allowing
that
to
happen.
It's
making
our
city
safer
from
our
roads.
It
was
very
uneven.
C
It
was
a
lot
of
potholes
to
get
this
work
done
is
great
for
our
cars
and
it
makes
our
our
city
beautiful,
especially
the
east
side
of
San
Jose
Alum
Rock,
especially
as
you
know,
it
leads
us
up
to
our
great
and
beautiful
Park,
Ellen,
Rock
Park
and,
let's
not
forget
that's
a
road
up
to
so
I
could
hear
be
here.
C
Talk
about
other
projects
that
I
I
believe
that
we
need
to
work
on,
but
I'll
say
that
for
another
day,
right
now,
I'm
just
here
to
thank
you
for
working
on
the
on
the
road
of
Alum
Rock,
and
hopefully
we
can
extend
it
to
other
roads
like
white
Road
and
between
White
and
story.
That'd
be
great,
but
right
now.
Thank
you
for
that
and
have
a
good
evening.
B
A
Yes,
I
do
see
two
hands
raised,
I'm,
not
sure
which
item
therefore
Bill.
What
item
are
you
raising
your
hand
for
hi
I'm?
This
is
William
Charlie
I'm,
an
attorney
representing
the
Berryessa
Union
School
District,
asking
for
item
4A
to
be
removed
from
the
consent.
Calendar
I,
understood.
B
Staff
and
City
attorney
for
this
item.
If
someone
wants
to
speak
on
it,
should
we
just
simply
pull
that
item
as
well.
A
B
Great,
so
you'll
have
an
opportunity
to
speak
on
the
pooled
item.
Just
just
hang
tight
and
we're
just
man
we're
running
our
way
through
the
consent
calendar
now,
so
we
have
two
items
that
have
been
requested
to
be
pulled
now,
any
other
members
of
the
public
here
on
this
one
I.
B
Okay,
thank
you
for
clarifying
that
commissioner
Cantrell,
so
any
other
hands
from
the
public
staff.
B
I
think
we're
pulling
her
items
so
I
think
that's
that'd,
be
fine
and
then
back
to
the
Commissioners
commissioner
Young.
B
So
staff,
which
items
have
you
recorded
to
be
pulled
4B,
4C
4D?
Is
that
correct.
B
A
B
F
B
B
A
B
Yes,
commissioner,
Nellis
wise
commissioner
Rosario,
yes
and
commissioner
young
yes,
okay,
so
then
now
we'll
be
moving
on
to
the
consent,
calendar
item
staff.
Do
you
need
to
say
anything
on
4B
or
what
you
said
will
suffice,
or
do
you
need
a
motion
on
that.
A
I
think
chair
I
think
you
do
need
a
motion
to
move
it
back
to
sections
of
deferral,
moving
the
item
to
referral
and
then
voting.
B
Okay,
so
we
need
a
motion
from
the
commission
to
move
item
4B.
As
a
deferral.
Do
we
have
anyone
in
the
commission
I'll
make
that
motion
I'll
make
that
motion.
Thank
you.
Second.
Is
there
a
second
excellent?
Is
there
any
discussion
on
that
item?
I,
don't
see
any
hands
so
now
we'll
just
have
a
vote.
It's
just.
B
They
are,
and
so
so
staff
I
think
we
could
take
their
comment,
even
though
the
item
is
being
deferred.
Is
that
correct.
A
Yes,
that
was
Bill
or
William
all
right.
His
name
is
William.
You
are
unmuted,
yes,
apologies.
This
is
being
re-noticed
I.
What
are
you
asking
of
me.
B
We're
we're
deferring
this
item
to
another
future
commission
meeting.
Would
you
like
to
not
have
that
happen,
or
are
you
okay
with
that
happening.
B
Thank
you.
Are
there
any
questions
from
the
Commissioners
on
that
I
did
see
one
hand
pop
up
was
that
commissioner
Garcia.
B
Okay,
great,
so
we
have
a
motion
to
defer
the
item
and
staff
will
bring
that
back
at
a
later
date.
On
the
motion,
commissioner,
lardon
law.
B
Commissioner
alawalia,
yes,
commissioner
barrosio.
Yes,
commissioner
Cantrell.
Yes,
commissioner
Casey.
Yes,
commissioner
Garcia.
Yes,
commissioner
Nellis
wise
commissioner
Rosario.
Yes,
commissioner
young,
yes,
myself
is
a
yes,
so
that
item
is
now
deferred.
Moving
on
to
the
next
item
on
the
consent,
calendar
is
item
C,
cp22-010.
B
Staff,
do
you
have
some
you'd
like
to
lay
up
on
this
or
have
a
member
of
the
public
talk
on
it
or
the
commissioner
that
pulled
it?
I
can't
recall
yes,.
D
D
The
request
is
to
allow
the
installation
of
a
180
square
foot,
Pump
House,
a
20
kilowatt,
backup
generator
and
a
chemical
dosing
system,
a
replacement
of
two
pumps
and
a
motor
control
center.
Enlargement
of
the
paved
area
on
site
and
the
removal
of
two
Ordnance
sized
trees
and
one
non-ordinate
sized
Tree
on
an
approximately
0.6
0.61
gross
Acre
Site.
D
D
Approximately
6,
500
square
feet
of
the
site
is
paved
and
that
would
be
enlarged
by
about
14
or
920
square
feet
adjoining
uses
to
to
the
site
include
single-family
homes
to
the
west
and
south,
and
open
space
to
the
north
and
east.
D
The
site
has
a
general
plan,
land
use
designation
of
residential
neighborhood
and
is
in
the
R15
zoning
District.
The
project
is
consistent
with
all
relevant
General
plan
policies
and
the
development
standards
of
the
zoning
District
a
class
one
categorical
exemption
from
the
California
Environmental
Quality
act
has
been
prepared
for
the
project
and
is
included
as
part
of
the
permit.
D
The
exemption
statement
concludes
that
the
project
meets
all
of
the
requirements
for
a
Class
1
exemption.
Therefore,
staff
recommends
that
the
Planning
Commission
find
that
the
project
is
in
conformance
with
the
California
Environmental
Quality
act
and
approve
the
proposed
conditional
use
permit.
This
concludes
staff
presentation.
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
G
A
Hi,
my
name
is
Tina
boomershine
I
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
my
husband
and
I
live
next
door
to
the
water
tank,
and
we
are
fully
in
support
of
the
plan
that
has
been
submitted.
We
we
really
don't
want
any
changes
to
be
made.
We
think
it
was
well
considered
and
takes
into
account
the
noise
and
has
they've
done
a
really
nice
job
of
trying
to
work
with
the
neighborhood,
and
we
really
would
utilize
a
backup
generator
when
our
power
goes
out.
A
B
Great
thanks
so
much
for
that
feedback.
Is
there
any
question
from
commissioners
or.
F
Young,
yes,
thank
you
chair
the
reason
I
pulled.
This
item
is
the
chemical,
locker
and
dosing
system
caught
my
eye
and
I
just
want
to
clarify
what
is
being
proposed
here,
because
we
have
single-family
homes
within
literally
a
hundred
feet
of
this
facility,
so
I'm
trying
to
understand
what
they're
doing
currently
and
what
is
being
proposed.
If
staff
could
explain
that.
B
A
B
D
Yes,
there
are
a
couple
of
different
applicant
Representatives
here:
Kevin
Nguyen
or
Scott
Hoffman
I'm,
not
sure
which
one
would
like
to
speak.
B
A
My
name
is
Scott
Hoffman
I'm,
with
the
San
Jose
water
engineering
department,
on
behalf
of
San
Jose,
water,
I,.
A
A
chemical
dosing
system
and
chlorine
and
we
do
it
in
a
certain
way.
Now
we
do
it
by
hand-
and
this
would
be
more
automated,
but
I'd
like
Ed
lambing,
if
he
could.
A
And
if
you
could
raise
your
hand,
it
isn't
muted,
okay,
thank
you
very
much
Commissioners
and
members
of
public.
That
spoke
on
behalf
I
hear
the
question
as
being
one
related
to
the
nature
of
the
chemical
dosing
system
and
as
Scott
as
Scott
Hoffman
explained,
part
of
San
Jose,
Water
Company's
commitment
to
the
community
we
serve
is
to
maintain
the
high
quality
standards
of
of
the
water
that
makes
its
way
to
people's
homes.
A
So,
while
that
water
is
in
the
tank,
we
we
boost
the
disinfection
residual
of
the
water
in
the
tank
to
optimize
the
disinfectant
potential
in
the
system.
So,
as
Scott
said
it's,
it
was
a
manual
operation.
It
required
our
operators
to
do
it.
It
was
far
less
than
optimal.
We
now
have
equipment
that
mixes
the
tank.
Water
maintains
a
homogeneous
mixture
of
that
that
chemical
and
and
provides
for
the
optimal
dosing.
So
it's
it's
not
something
that
should
be
of
a
particular
concern
to
the
community.
It's
not
chlorine,
gas.
A
It's
a
low
concentration
of
chlorine
and
liquid
ammonia
sulfate
that
is,
is
used
to
protect
the
community,
but
oh
I'd
be
glad
to
entertain
or
continue
that
discussion.
B
F
Yes,
thank
you
for
to
the
applicants.
I
appreciate
that
so
just
one
question
for
the
staff
as
the
fire
department,
hazardous
materials,
section
reviewed
this.
D
Yes,
as
far
as
we
understand
they
have,
the
fire
department
did
review
this.
This
application,
okay,.
B
Okay,
commissioner,
why
is
there
a
second
a
second
commissioner
Young
excellent?
So
let's
go
through
the
roll
call.
Any
discussion
on
the
motion
don't
see
any.
We
will
go.
Commissioner
Young.
Yes,
commissioner,.
A
B
Cantrell,
yes,
commissioner
barrosio.
Yes,
commissioner
alawalia.
Yes,
commissioner,
lardinois,
yes
and
myself,
yes,
so
moving
on
to
the
next
item.
B
H
Yes
good
evening,
thank
you
Mr,
chair
and
good
evening
planning,
Commissioners
and
members
of
the
public.
My
name
is
Sylvia
doe
I'm,
the
planning
project
manager
with
the
Department
of
planning,
building
and
code
enforcement
and
Danielle.
If
I
may
I
just
have
a
few
slides
to
share.
H
Permit
types
listed
on
this
screen.
I
will
go
into
it
and
it
also
includes
all
Associated
permits
under
one
entitlement
approval.
So
what
this
means
is
that
for
valid
permits
that
had
already
been
automatically
extended
by
the
current
uncodified
ordinance
and
or
permit
adjustment
extensions,
those
permits
would
qualify
for
the
proposed
automatic
two-year
extension
from
the
most
extended
permit
expiration
date,
but
not
to
extend
past
March
17th
of
2024
and
again.
H
H
F
Thank
you
chair
and
thank
you,
Ms
doe
for
the
presentation,
so
I'll
tell
you.
I
will
tell
the
members
of
the
commission
why
I
pulled
this
item.
F
We
as
I
understand
and
Ms,
do
I'm
going
to
ask
you
a
couple
clarifying
questions
in
just
a
minute,
but
as
I
understand
it,
we
are
now
going
to
extend
these
permits
for
a
total
of
four
years.
Four
years
to
me
seems
a
lifetime
in
this
city.
The
way
development
goes
so
I
I
have
concerns
on
this
item
and
I
want
to
understand
why
it's
being
proposed
and
how
it
might
impact
so
just
Mr
clarification
just
to
make
sure
I
understand.
F
So
if
a
project
let's
say
was
approved
in
April
of
2020,
the
extension
that
the
council
gave
would
have
extended
that
two
years
is
that
correct.
H
Yes,
that's
correct.
These
permits
would
have
been
either
approved
or
valid
prior
to
March
17
2020,
which
was
the
start
of
the
pandemic.
So
yes,
if
a
project
was
approved,
say
March,
17,
2020
or
so
those
permit
terms
typically
have
a
two-year
term
limit,
in
which
case
an
applicant
would
have
to
apply
for
an
additional
administrative
extension
for
up
to
two
one-year
extensions.
So,
therefore,
a
total
of
four
years
and
yes
you're
correct
in
that
the
city
council
adopted
ordinance
allowed
an
additional
two
years.
On
top
of
that.
F
F
Okay,
okay,
so
as
I
understand
it,
then
we're
talking
about
taking
a
permit
that
a
developer
may
have
taken
out
in
2020
and
potentially
laying
that
permit
ride
for
six
years,
and
so
you
know
I
would
just
share.
My
concerns
with
the
other
members
of
the
commission.
I'd
be
interested
to
know
is,
as
I
said,
the
way
Planning
and
Development
and
Construction
occurs
in
this
city.
That's
a
long
time
and
a
lot
of
things
can
change
and
Ms
doe.
F
If
you
will
humor
me,
I
want
to
give
you
a
scenario,
and
just
tell
me
if,
if
this
is
accurate,
so
let's
just
say
that
in
2020
someone
had
come
in
for
a
change
of
use
from
a
commercial
building
to
sand
nightclub
and
that
and
that
was
approved
by
the
Planning
Commission
this
staff,
and
at
the
time
that
was
approved,
there
were
two
commercial
buildings.
F
F
So
now
we
have
a
let's
say,
a
multi-story
residence
next
to
a
nightclub
that
could
get
approved,
say
in
2026,
so
I
guess
you
can
see
where
I'm
driving
at
is
the
conditions
under
which
that
project
was
approved
at
the
time
have
changed
greatly,
and
now
there
are
residences
right
next
door,
so
is:
can
you
just
am
I
being
accurate
in
what
I'm
saying.
B
H
Yes,
that's
correct
and
I
would
also
add
that,
depending
on
that
zoning
District,
we
would
also
acknowledge
what
the
allowable
uses
are
both
for
the
site
that
has
been
approved
and
also
for
that
residential
development
that
was
under
consideration,
so
yeah
acknowledging
all
of
the
existing
entitlements,
including
the
the
nightclub,
even
if
it
had
not
commenced
at
that
moment,.
F
Okay,
great
a
couple,
a
couple,
more
questions:
what
what
is
the
process
for
renewing
an
expired
permit?
How
what
is
there
a
cost
involved?
Is
there
a
is?
How
do
you
folks
do
that.
H
F
H
Yes,
in
many
scenarios
the
developer
might
have
already
obtained
the
permit
adjustment,
and
this
would
be
in
two
years.
In
addition
to
that,
there
could
be
also
other
scenarios
where
a
developer
never
took
advantage
of
the
permit
adjustment,
and
so
long
as
that
original
development
or
use
permit
is
still
valid.
Then
this
automatic
extension
would
apply
on
top
of
it
and
they
could
be
eligible
for
future
administrative
level.
Permit
extensions.
F
Okay,
okay,
well,
I'll,
wrap
up.
I,
know
I've
taken
some
time
here.
I
have
a
concern
about
this
item.
I
am
not
really
understanding
how
this
item
benefits
our
residents
I
understand
how
it
benefits
a
developer,
but
you
know
we're
here
for
our
residents
at
least
I
feel
I
am
so
certainly
sensitive
to
the
developers
and
I'm
sensitive.
The
fact
that
we
I
know
that
covet
had
an
impact
I
feel
like
that
impact
is
over.
It
seems
like
our
economic
activity
is
picking
up
so
I
have
a
concern
and
I'd.
B
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Young
young.
Thank
you
very
much.
I
I
think
overall
staff
there's
essentially
you've
had
a
I'm
assuming
more
than
one
request
of
the
difficulty
in
the
current
environment
and
staff
is
looking
at
rather
than
dealing
with
these
one
by
one
is
just
to
do
it
in
a
blanket
format
and
I'm
assuming
this
is
what
the
applicants
are
are
interested
in.
H
Yes,
most
definitely
we've
heard
from
many
developers
about
their
challenges
being
able
to
obtain
financing
for
their
projects,
let
alone
obtain
construction
materials
to
begin
construction,
and
also
to
add
on
to
that
right
now,
through
our
building
permit
process,
we're
experiencing
huge
volume
of
applications,
but
also
a
huge
volume
of
Staff
vacancies
as
well.
That
would
impact
even
the
city's
ability
to
issue
building
permits
to
allow
a
developer
to
even
start
construction,
so
everything
is
kind
of
like
compounded.
H
I
also
wanted
to
add
just
for
additional
background
is
that
even
with
a
Great
Recession
10
plus
years
ago,
we
did
a
similar
permit
extension
for
anywhere
for
two
to
even
up
to
four
years
for
office
development,
especially
in
downtown
and,
as
you
know
like
with
the
Great
Recession,
there
wasn't
any
sort
of
state
of
emergency
where
construction
had
to
be
halted.
It
and
folks
had
a
bee
shelter
in
place.
E
B
Okay,
thank
you,
commissioner,
largenwa
sure.
G
Yeah
I
need
to
get
some
lighting.
That's
actually
in
front
of
my
face
all
right.
It's
all
right,
but
so
yeah
I
just
want
to
start
off
by
saying
I.
Think,
commissioner
Young's
overall
concern
is
totally
reasonable.
I
mean
I
think
we
should
have
reasonable
limits
on
how
long
entitlements
last
for,
if
they're
not
built
I,
mean
I.
Think
back
to
in
you
know.
Last
year
we
had
the
whole
flea
market
discussion
that
was
very
complicated
because
of
an
entitlement
I
think
going
back
to
2007
in
that
situation.
G
That
was
still
valid,
but
I
think
in
this
particular
case
that
this
extension
makes
sense.
There's
you
know
really
agreeing
with
Robert
there
I
see
it.
G
You
know
part
of
how
the
city
is
addressing
the
impacts
of
copen19
and
also
it
is
a
very
unprecedented
situation
and
it
still
could
have
potential
impacts
on
whether
a
project
could
get
built
say
the
next
year,
but
with
this
extension
may
still
be
able
to
be
building
the
new
excuse
me
in
the
near
future
and
then
also
just
in
terms
of
like
you
know
whether
it's
good
for
the
developers
or
whether
it's
good
for
residents,
and
this
is
not
meant
to
be
snarky
in
any
way.
G
I
think
I
like
to
think
that
we
on
the
Planning
Commission
and
on
and
the
city
council
approved
projects
because
they're
good
for
the
community,
because
that's
the
goal
of
our
general
plan
and
all
our
other
policies.
So
I,
don't
I.
Don't
see
that
in
this
situation
as
being
in
Conflict.
A
B
Okay,
are
you
done
with
comments
for
now,
commissioner?
I
am.
G
A
Actually
yeah
I
I
just
want
to
say
thanks
again
commissioning
on
you
you're,
so
thorough
I
actually
viewed
this
as
only
a
four-year
total
extension
not
up
to
six,
but
I
I
still
understand
the
necessity
of
doing
so,
and
you
know,
given
that
these
are
already
approved
for
their
impact,
given
that
this
would
create
a
substantial
burden
on
the
planning
department
and
actually
might
create
a
lot
of
blockets
to
development
that
we
want
to
see
happen.
So,
for
those
reasons,
I
I'm
willing
to
approve.
H
Thank
you,
chair
I,
just
wanted
also
to
add
a
point
of
clarification
that,
since
the
pandemic
staff
has
updated
all
the
permits
moving
forward
to
public
hearing
is
to
instead
have
having
a
initial
two-year
term
to
a
four-year
term.
So
really
all
of
the
permits
that
have
been
before
the
Planning
Commission
planning,
directors,
hearing
our
city
council
since
the
startup
pandemic
or
middle
of
the
pandemic.
We
have
had
the
four-year
term,
so
that
would
allow
developers
or
applicants
rather
to
have
a
total
of
six
years.
I
Perfect,
thank
you
good
evening,
everyone,
so
just
a
clarifying
question
when
we're
saying
how
how
we
feel
we're
going
to
vote
on
it,
we're
saying
that
when
it
shows
up
on
a
future
date
or
are
we
not
pulling
it
tonight
and
then
I
have
a
follow-up
question.
We're.
B
Voting
on
it
tonight
and
we're
basically
saying
if
an
applicant
due
to
the
pandemic
is
unable
to
get
the
financing
and
go
build.
The
city
is
just
going
to
voluntarily
give
them
extra
time,
rather
than
have
them
apply
for
extensions
which
takes
up
staff
time.
So
it's
viewed
as
a
way
to
be
assisting
the
development
Community
because
of
the
pandemic
and
the
externalities
of
that
and.
G
If
I
could
chime
in
real,
quick
I
think,
commissioner
barrosio
you
talk
about
polling
just
to
clarify
when
we
pull
something
from
the
consent
calendars
just
so
that
we
can
have
a
full
discussion
on
it
rather
than
expedite
the
approval
like
we
normally
would
with
consent
calendar.
It
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
we're
not
going
to
consider
an
item
at
that
meeting.
I
I
see
so
I
think
I.
Think
commissioner,
young
was
was
your
intention
to
discuss
it
openly
as
opposed
to
us
us
approving
it
wholesale
with
the
consent
calendar
or
did
you
want
it
moved
to
a
future
date.
I
I
see
okay,
so
my
follow-up
question
is
when,
when
this
extension
was
approved,
was
it
was
it
given
a
sunshine
date
in
terms
of
we're
going
to
be
granting
this
four
to
six
year
extension
until
2025
I
mean?
Is
there
an
indicator
when
this
is
going
to
not
be
the
case.
H
H
F
Yes,
thank
you
chair.
Actually,
the
I
have
a
couple
additional
questions
that
have
come
up
as
a
result
of
the
discussion,
so
Mr
Man
for
just
to
clarify
the
council
approved
a
two-year
extension
due
to
covet
correct.
So
wouldn't
that
be
the
extension
that
would
relate
to
the
covid-19
funding
that
we
received
from
the
federal
government.
E
F
Okay,
so
then,
and
misto
I'm
I'm
confused
by
something
you
said,
which
is
what's
being
proposed,
is
consistent
with
current
practice.
If
it's
consistent
with
current
practice,
why
are
we
proposing
this
I
I?
Don't
understand.
H
Yeah
yeah,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
elaborate
on
that.
So
what
I
was
referring
to
is
pre-pandemic.
H
It
has
been
staff's
standard
practice
to
incorporate
a
two-year
term
limit
in
draft
permits
and,
since
the
start
of
the
or
in
the
middle
of
the
pandemic,
staff
acknowledged
that,
in
light
of
the
situation
going
on
worldwide,
instead
of
applying
in
our
draft
permits
the
standard
two-year
term
limit,
we
modified
it
to
four
years
so,
in
other
words,
any
development
permits
that
were
in
front
of
a
public
hearing
body
around
the
middle
of
the
pandemic
onwards.
To
even
today,
those
draft
permits
have
a
four-year
term
limit.
H
This
would
only
apply
to
permits
that
were
approved
before
or
valid
as
of
March
17
2020.
F
Okay,
I'm
gonna
make
one
editorial
comment
and
then
I
promise
I
will
stop
talking.
I
understand
the
Staffing
shortage.
I've
talked
to
Mr
Manford
about
this,
and
I
I'm
really
really
sensitive
to
the
really
hard
spot
you
all
are
in
and
I've
said
before.
I
commend
you
all
of
you
for
the
hard
work
that
you
do.
F
I
believe
personal
opinion
that
one
of
the
reasons
there's
a
staffing
shortage
is
the
compensation
for
the
planners
at
all
levels
is
not
sufficient.
It's
not
comparable
to
other
cities
in
our
County.
So
in
a
way,
I
feel
like
by
doing
this,
we're
just
kicking
that
problem
down
the
road
rather
than
having
the
council
address
that.
So
that's
my
editorial
comment
and
I
will
deferred.
Thank
you.
B
C
I,
don't
really
have
a
comment:
I
was
just
trying
to
I
was
gonna
without
trying
to
extend
the
conversation.
I
was
trying
to
I
was
going
to
say
that
the
six
years
that
is
being
referred
to
is
going
backwards
in
time
from
2024..
So
it's
not
six
years
from
now,
it's
basically
codifying
or
making
an
ordinance
to
to
make
the
emergency
extensions
that
were
put
in
place
basically
correctly
on
the
books.
If
you
will
so
I
I'm
prepared
to
vote.
B
On
it,
okay,
great
and
staff
alternative
to
this-
if
you
just
stayed,
if
we
did
nothing,
you
would
get
a
a
lot
of
inquiries
from
a
lot
of
applicants.
Asking
for
extensions
staff
would
have
to
take
the
time
to
process
those
and
have
public,
Administrative,
Hearings,
etc,
etc.
And,
let's
say
an
applicant
had
reached
the
end
of
their
extensions.
B
Then
what
and
you
know
picture
whatever
development
you
want
right:
a
commercial
building,
low
income,
housing
mixed
use,
development!
What's
that
develop,
that
applicant
have
to
do
at
that
point
because
they've
expired
now,
because
they
couldn't
get
financing
or
whatever
the
situation
was.
B
And
appeal,
and
all
that
correct,
okay,
great
was
there
another
commissioner
barrosio.
I
Yeah
perfect,
thank
you.
So
two
two
questions
one
to
follow
up
on
on
what
commissioner
Garcia
just
said
and
and
perhaps
misto
you
can,
you
can
clarify.
So
thank
you
for
that
point
in
terms
of
the
March
2024.
That's
that's
more
of
a
of
a
cap.
No
more
projects
before
March
17th
of
2020
could
get
extended
beyond
that
is.
That
is
that
is
that
right.
H
I
H
Correct
if
their
projects
have
been
approved
by
March
17th
of
2022
I
mean
I'm.
Sorry,
there's
so
many
enough
years
here.
If
their
projects
were
still
valid
and
have
been
approved
by
March
17th
of
2020,
then
yes,
they
would
be
eligible
for
this
extension.
Okay,.
I
And
is
it
and
is
it?
Is
there?
Is
there
like
a
rough
estimate
about
how
many
projects
we're
talking
about
that
would
would
take
advantage
of
that
two-year
grace
period
from
2018
to
2019
that
haven't
really
started
the
process
that
would
have
to
go
back.
Are
we
talking
about
50
we're
talking
about
200
like
how
many
are
we
talking
about.
H
Yeah,
that's
a
really
great
question
that
I
kind
of
anticipated
coming
up,
but
on
the
the
flip
side,
with
the
challenges
in
our
permitting
system,
there's
not
a
great
way,
unfortunately,
to
track
when
a
project
was
approved
and
of
those
projects
which
ones
applied
for
the
regular
administrative
level
extension.
And
so
therefore,
it's
kind
of
hard
to
kind
of
really
come
to
a
definitive
number
on
what
those
eligible
remaining
eligible
permits
that
would
qualify
for.
The
extension
is.
I
Okay,
perhaps
to
give
to
give
me
like
personally
I,
don't
know
if
the
rest
of
the
commission
may
benefit
from
this,
but
how
many
applicants
per
year
do
you?
Do
you
see
that
what
kind
of
fall
under
this
umbrella,
like
perhaps
we
don't
know
how
many
would
want
the
two-year
extension
of
2024,
but
but
in
terms
of
the
the
applicant
flow
that
you
get
are?
Are
we
possibly
talking
about
hundreds
in
the
tens
under
100
or
thousands.
B
H
Yes,
we
do
track
that
I
would
just
need
a
couple
of
minutes.
I
Thank
you
for
that
and
I'll
take
advantage
as
she
does
that
to
ask
a
follow-up
question
about
compensation.
You
said
that
when
I
necessarily
you
missed
out,
but
anyone
else
on
the
planning
staff
side
of
things
when
the
300
have
to
get
paid
by
the
applicant,
does
that
does
that
go
to
overtime
or
does
that
go
to
just
the
general
pots,
because
the
staff
that's
working
on
it
is
doing
it
during
work
hours.
I
That
goes
to
the
planning
department
right
right,
but
in
terms
of
like
when
that
a
couple
of
hours
or
when
that
reissuing
happens,
does
that
happen
during
overtime
hours
or
is
that
clocked
in
under
regular
work
hours.
I
E
Well,
so
the
plan
under
division
operates
on
a
cost
recovery
basis,
so
it's
applications
that
actually
go
into
our
budget
for
personal
expenses.
B
I
I
Yeah
I
know
I,
know
other
departments,
I
guess
you
would
say
that
the
city
that
the
city,
that's
under
the
city
government
does
do
overtime.
Is
it?
Is
it
a
misconception
of
mine
that
that's
not
accurate,
and
if
and
if
it's
accurate,
that
other
departments
do
over
time
is
is?
Is
this
something
that
the
Planning
Commission,
not
us,
but
the
planning
staff
could
could
leverage
if,
if
the
work
hits
capacity
and
unfortunately,
there's
no
hiring
happening,
perhaps
there's
overtime,
that's
available,
Robert.
E
O,
could
you
please
repeat
the
question
the.
I
Numbers
here,
yeah:
is
it
possible
for
the
planning
department
staff
to
get
overtime?
Is
that
is
that
not
allowed
for
any
San
Jose
City
Department
or
is
it
allowed
and
is
that
something
that
could
be
explored?
That
would
alleviate
some
of
some
of
the
like
volume
of
work
that
you
and
your
team
have
to
do.
Yeah.
E
I
Okay,
and
and
on
that
volunteer
basis,
do
you
see
in
in
in
the
planning
staff
that
is
capable?
That
is
credential
that
does
have
all
the
licensing
and
background
knowledge
to
do
some
of
this
overtime?
Do
you
see
a
lot
of
hands
go
up
or
or
is
it
a
50
50
where,
like
some
projects,
just
won't
get
taken
care
of
through
the
overtime
system?
Or
do
you
see
hey,
like
95
of
the
projects
that
need
overtime,
do
get
a
hand
raised
okay,.
E
So
it
is
very
difficult
to
answer
that
question
because
it's
very
uncertain.
Sometimes
there
are
volunteers
other
times
too,
because
of
a
staffing
situation.
It
becomes
difficult
and
during
this
Kobe
period
or
pandemic
period,
it's
been
very
difficult
because
a
lot
of
staff
are
balancing
their
needs
with
work
needs
and
home
needs
and
stuff
like
that.
So
it's
been
a
very
precarious
and
also
difficult
situation
to
predict.
As.
A
H
All
right
so
I
pulled
up
some
numbers
from
fiscal
year,
2021
and
2022,
and
there's
approximately
about
120
applications
that
would
fall
under
these
categories.
Okay,.
B
H
B
A
B
Commissioner
Cantrell
yes,
commissioner
barossio
no
commissioner
alawalia.
Yes,
commissioner
lardon
law,
yes
and
myself
as
a
yes
and
one
comment:
I'll
have
if
having
seen
these
you
know
applications
the
entitlement
process
takes
a
long
time.
I
really
don't
think
any
particular
applicant.
Given
the
extra
time
will
decide
to
sit
on
it.
B
I
think
they're
ready
to
go
the
moment
they
get
the
money
and
in
the
in
the
world
of
we
live
in
it's
our
housing
and
developments
are
privately
financed
and
that's
contingent
on
banks
or
Pension
funds,
giving
them
money,
and
if
that
money
is
not
available,
they
don't
do
anything
and
I.
Think
outside
of
the
pandemic.
B
We're
going
into
a
very
high
interest
rate
era
and
financing
is
going
to
be
tougher
and
I've
heard
that
a
significant
project
in
the
downtown
has
stopped
construction,
because
there's
no
money
so
well,
let's
hope
for
the
best
for
everyone,
but
it's
difficult.
B
Okay.
Moving
on
to
item
six,
there
are
no
referrals
from
the
city
council
item,
seven
good
and
well
for
welfare.
A
E
Yes,
Mr
chair,
there
is
on
October
4th.
The
city
council
proves
that
amendments
to
the
downtown
San
Jose
design
guidelines,
as
well
as
the
Citywide
design
guidelines
that
came
through
this
Commission.
That's
right
and.
B
B
B
I'm
getting
that
one
I
promise,
but
nothing
on
the
public
record
correct.
E
B
Outstanding
commissioner,.
G
Yeah
I
was
just
curious
about
the
war
name.
This
resolution
I
don't
recall
previous
resolutions
that
we've
done
for
this,
so
it
could
just
be
the
same,
but
is
am
I
understanding
it
correct
to
say
that
we'll
be
meeting
in
person,
or
is
this
just
establishing
what
the
location
would
be
when
we
meet
in
person,
but
not
clear
when
that
will
happen
depends.
B
On
the
governor,
I
believe
City
attorney,
that's
correct.
The
governor
did
pass
a
law
allowing
for
Zoom
like
meetings
to
continue
under
the
brown
act,
so
I
think
whether
or
not
we
meet
in
person
will
also
be
dictated
by.
G
B
F
B
Excellent
all
right!
Well,
then,
we'll
see
you
after
Halloween
I
think
no
wait
a
minute,
no
we're
right
before
Halloween.
Okay,
everyone
have
a
have
a
good
good
evening,
and
thanks
for
thanks
for
all
your
efforts
and
great
questions
and
thank
you,
staff,
bye-bye
bye,
everyone
good
night.