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From YouTube: SEP 30, 2021 | Redistricting Advisory Commission
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City of San José, California
Redistricting Advisory Commission of September 30, 2021
This public meeting will be conducted via Zoom Webinar. For information on public participation via Zoom, please refer to the linked meeting agenda below.
Agenda https://sanjose.legistar.com/View.ashx?M=A&ID=894091&GUID=3F49E417-BC3D-458D-84F9-E17B87E79908
A
A
A
A
A
A
B
This
meeting
of
the
redistricting
commission
will
now
come
to
order.
Can
the
clerk
please
take
roll.
C
D
B
C
A
B
B
I
don't
see
any
hands,
so
is
there
a
motion
to
approve
yes.
A
C
B
Thank
you
moving
on
to
reports
and
information,
I
do
have
a
few
announcements
today.
First,
I
want
to
acknowledge
that
we've
met
a
big
milestone,
which
is
the
completion
of
the
public
hearings
on
communities
of
interest
which
were
held
for
each
of
the
10
districts
and,
as
we
are
getting
closer
to
the
map
drawing
process,
I
did
want
to
highlight
potential
resources
of
information
and
suggests
that
we
all
get
acquainted
with
the
san
jose
redistricting
commission
website.
B
B
B
As
a
reminder,
we
will
be
seeing
a
lot
more
of
each
other
in
the
next
coming
weeks,
since
we
will
be
meeting
weekly
to
continue
the
draw
drawing
of
the
map
process
that
we'll
recommend
to
council.
So
just
as
a
reminder
we're
meeting
weekly
and
our
next
meeting
is
going
to
be
next
thursday
october
7th
at
7
o'clock,
and
I
think
that's
all
I
had
to
share.
Would
the
clerk
have
a
report
for
us
today.
E
No,
but
I
would
like
to
share
some
of
the
resources
you
were
just
talking
about,
pulled
them
all
up.
So
if
we
go
to
the
website
the
city,
it's
redistricting,
so
you
can
go
over
here.
You
can
also
type
in
san
jose
c.gov
redistricting
2022,
but
I
always
navigate
to
it
through
my
website.
So
all
of
the
the
surveys
that
we
received
are
posted
here.
The
written
testimonies
are
posted
as
well
as
the
hand-drawn
maps.
E
There,
it
is,
if
you
go
to
the
redistrict,
the
district
r
dot
org
the
link,
that's
on
our
website.
In
fact,
if
you
go,
are
you
going
too
fast?
Sorry,
that's
because
I
messed
up.
So
if
you
go
to
our
redistricting
2020
communities
of
interest
main
page
and
you
just
click
on
this
district
r.org
link,
it
takes
you
directly
to
the
city
of
san
jose,
so
you
don't
have
to
click
through
states
and
cities
and
you
go
to
public
gallery.
E
E
So,
in
this
case,
it's
right
here
so
the
penitentiary
neighborhood
is
right
here
we
we
did
hear
several
of
them
speak
at
another
meeting
and
then
that
open
gis-
I
actually
did
exactly
what
enadina
said.
I
went
to
google
typed
in
city
of
san
jose
gis,
open
data
portal.
It
took
me
right
here,
and
this
is
where
you
can
find
the
boundaries,
the
demographics
all
of
this
information.
E
If,
as
we
look
at
the
draft
maps,
if
you
want
this
data.
E
So
that
that's
all
I
have,
we
do
have
redistricting
partners
here
for
our
next
item.
F
F
G
E
B
Okay,
great
thank
you
and
I
do
see
liz
from
redistricting
cart
partners.
Welcome.
Did
you
have
a
report
that
you
would
like
to
share
with
us
at
this
moment,
or
should
I
wait
for
the
later
presentation?
B
E
B
Okay,
thanks
thanks
tony
so
we'll
move
on.
Oh
okay!
Next
next,
in
order
old
business
item
for
discussion
on
communities
of
interest,
public
hearings
and
outreach
before
I
turn
it
over
to
liz,
I
did
want
to
note
that
we
did
receive
letters
from
the
public
which
you
will
find
as
an
attachment
under
this
agenda
item
on
the
updated
agenda
that
was
posted
this
afternoon,
which
contains
some
more
written
testimony.
B
H
Okay,
so
this
is
a
really
exciting
time,
as
we've
discussed
earlier,
we
finished
public
testimony,
so
here
on
the
timeline
we
are
about
to
present
draft
maps
and,
as
a
reminder,
the
deadline
to
get
them
passed
by
city
council
is
december
15th.
So
we
are
well
on
our
way
there.
H
The
community
has
filled
out
community
of
interest
worksheets.
They
are
still
available
on
the
website,
and
community
members
are
still
very
much
encouraged
to
fill
these
out.
They
will
still
be
incorporated
into
future
drafts
as
well,
and
community
members
drew
on
district
or
they
drew
districts.
They
drew
their
own
communities,
which
I
will
get
into
and
some
of
the
testimony
was
in
person
and
submitted
online.
H
Some
of
the
trends
that
we
saw
included
keeping
penitentia's
neighborhood
together
in
district
four,
the
dalmas
park
and
downtown
west
should
be
kept
in
the
same
district,
keep
filipino-american
community
together
and
there
is
an
important
place.
The
filipino
community
center
on
north
sixth
street
keep
downtown
san
jose
together
and
keep
berryessa
together,
which
historically
hasn't
always
been
the
case,
as
we've
heard
from
past
testimony.
H
So
here
now
I'm
going
to
go
through
the
district
or
submissions
that
we've
received
over
the
last
few
weeks
or
longer
over
the
last
couple
of
months.
So
this
is
a
downtown
district
and
just
a
reminder.
We
we
look
at
every
single
district
or
submission
that
we
get
and
we'll
consider
them
while
we
draw
and
then
here
is
a
berryessa
piedmont,
hills,
high
school
district.
H
The
penitentia
neighborhood
association,
so
this
one
specifically
it
makes
up
the
neighborhood
homes
that
have
gathered
together
to
form
the
penitencia
neighborhood
association,
it's
roughly
500
members
on
67
streets
and
then
we
have
one
that
it
unfortunately
doesn't
have
a
description.
H
H
H
H
H
And
then
I
believe
this
is
another
japan,
town
koi
and
just
really
quickly
to
go
over
my
role.
We
get
our
information,
we
get
our
data
from
the
us
census,
we
get
our
information
from
the
public
and
we
get
our
direction
from
the
commission
to
draw
the
map.
So
our
objective
is
to
draw
maps
as
fair
and
equitable
for
the
city
according
to
you
all,
according
to
the
commission,
so
you
know
the
city
best
much
better
than
I
do.
We
can
draw
a
very
equally
populated.
H
It
follows
all
of
the
rules,
all
the
traditional
principles,
but
that
doesn't
make
it
a
good
map.
That's
why
we
rely
on
the
commission
on
the
public
to
tell
us
where
their
communities
lie,
so
we're
hoping
that
tonight
you
can
tell
us
exactly
what
you
think
of
all
the
submissions
we've
seen
so
far
and
where
you
think
would
be
a
good
place
to
put
lines
given
your
knowledge
and
expertise
on
the
city
itself,
so
we
will
be
presenting
draft
maps
to
you
in
pretty
soon
in
next
month.
H
So
soon
it
will
present
three
maps
to
you,
which
will
further
be
evaluated
by
the
public
and
you
all
and
then
we'll
follow
that
up
with
more
draft
maps.
So
it
won't
be
the
first
or
it
won't
be
the
last
set,
but
it'll
be
a
starting
point.
H
So
what
we
need
is
feedback
from
the
commission
on
potential
draft
plans.
All
of
this
will
fit
the
criteria
for
the
vra
compactness
contiguity
all
of
those
traditional
redistricting
principles,
but
we
definitely
need
feedback
and
we'll
have
to
as
well
check
in
with
the
city,
council
and
community
on
potential
vis
versions
as
well.
H
So
what
you
should
expect
with
these
draft
maps?
It's
a
whole
bunch
of
data
that
will
come
attached
to
it.
So
an
overview
page
data
tables
individual
district
pages
with
data.
So
you
will
know
exactly
the
breakdown
for
each
district
and
the
justification
right
so
who
lives
there
and
why
were
the
lines
placed
the
way
they
were
and
it
will
include
a
summary
document
as
well,
so
a
thumbnail
of
district
overview,
objective
member
measures
and
notes.
H
H
So
all
maps
approved
as
draft
maps
will
be
placed
on
the
redistricting
website
for
public
feedback.
Just
remember,
the
fair
maps
act
requires
that
we
post
the
maps
seven
days
in
advance
before
a
meeting,
so
the
public
will
have
ample
time
to
review
those
maps
before
the
commission
starts
discussing
and
emitting
those
maps
as
well.
H
And
so
future
hearings
will
allow
for
changes
to
the
drafts
prior
to
the
adoption
again
we're
going
to
have
multiple
draft
maps,
map
hearings
and
selection
on
final
proposed
draft
with
any
changes.
So
if
there
are
any
changes,
there
will
have
to
be
another
seven
day
waiting
period,
so
we
can
get
the
public
those
draft
maps
before
it
is
voted
on
by
the
commission,
and
then
it
goes
to
city
council
with
an
up
or
down
vote
which
will
need
to
happen
before
december
15th.
H
So
with
that,
I
would
love
to
hear
from
commissioners
on
where
you
think
the
line
should
be
where
what
communities
need
to
be
grouped
together.
Like
I
said
we
here,
let
me
stop
sharing
my
stream.
We
can
draw
you
maps
that
are
completely
legal
and
very
equal
in
terms
of
population,
but
that
won't
necessarily
be
a
good
map
for
san
jose.
So
I
would
love
to
hear
input
on
what
you
all
think
is
the
most
equitable
way
to
draw
the
lines
for
san
jose.
B
All
right,
thank
you.
Liz
first,
we're
gonna
open
the
floor
up
for
public
comment
and
then
we'll
follow
it
with
questions
and
discussion
for
the
commissioners.
B
So
if
there
are
any
members
of
the
public
that
would
like
to
address
this
section
on
communities
of
interest
or
the
previous
section
regarding
the
reports,
if
you
could,
please
raise
your
hand
and
you
will
be
called.
C
Yeah
thanks,
so
maybe
maybe
I'm
jumping
the
gun
a
little
bit
with
lines
and
such,
but
I
I
I
thought
it
maybe
it
would
be
interesting
for
us
to
see
some,
perhaps
generic
quote-unquote
maps
of
the
city,
so
ones
that
is
perhaps
solely
based
on
population
density.
In
the
our
current.
C
Lines
that
we
have
right
now
and
then
one
on
income
disparity
or
income
for
our
areas.
I
played
a
little
bit
around
right
now
with
the
open
source
gis
map
that
the
the
city
puts
out
for
one
it
looks
to
be
actually
for
the
entire
county,
it's
it's
not
purely
for
the
city
and
it
seems
to
be
broken
down
by
census.
Block
groups-
I
don't
know
if
you
all
have
that
kind
of
power
to
see.
C
Maybe
a
gradient
shift
for
my
example,
my
district
one,
if,
if
there's
a
gradient
shift
in
population
density
or
income
or
racial
makeup,
if
we
would
be
able
to
see
that
by
block
group,
of
course,
just
for
us
to
get
some
generic
info
me
and
combine
them
all
together,
see
like
hey.
C
Maybe
this
is
what
we
see
at
the
present
moment
and
then
compare
that
against
public
comment
or
anything
else
that
we've
seen
come
in.
F
For
myself,
like
like
looking
at
my
district
district
aid,
I
like
to
see
what
what
the
changes
took
place
in
the
last
10
years
in
this
district.
You
know
what
movement
has
taken
place
in
terms
of
the
communities
that
that
live
along
the
freeway,
that
are
my
my
low-income
families
and
just
what
the
changes
are.
F
B
Liz,
what
is
the
current
status
of
the
census
data?
Is
that
has
that
already
been
kind
of
cold
and
analyzed.
H
Yes-
and
I
can,
I
could
probably
go
through
some
files-
really
quick
and
see
if
I
can
pull
that
up
for
you
all,
but
the
data
has
been
finalized,
so
we
do
have
the
data
that
is
required
under
the
fair
maps
act
to
base
our
districts
off
of
so
let
me
see
if
I
can
find
that
really
fast.
H
Okay,
it
doesn't
look
like
I
can
get
it
tonight,
but
I
can
get
that
to
you
within
the
week.
B
G
Yes,
thank
you
so
much,
and
thank
you
liz
for
that
presentation.
My
question
is
along
similar
lines
as
far
as
with
getting
the
census
data
shared
with
the
commissioner.
So
that
way
we
can
make
educated
decisions
as
to
how
to
draw
the
lines,
including
the
testimony
that
we
have
heard,
as
well
as
the
letters
that
have
been
sent
in
regarding
communities
of
the
interests.
H
Let
me
check
my
files
again
really
fast
for
that
we
should
have
at
least
the
legacy
file
for
you
all.
The
legacy
data
is
the
pre-prisoner
population
allocated
data
that,
under
the
fair
maps
act
we
now
have
to
use
for
our
final
data,
but
we
do
have
the
legacy
information.
So
let
me
see
if
I
could
find
that
memo
really
fast,
and
I
can
show
you
all
so
you
can
at
least
get
a
sense
of
what
to
expect.
H
I
wonder,
and
my
colleague
kimmy
is
on
this
call
as
well
kimmy
if
you
can
find
that
information
and
then
that
way
I
can
take
the
next
call.
H
H
Run
through
this,
oh,
I
was
excited,
can
you
so?
These
are
the
the
lines
as
we
see
them
today.
They
will
obviously
be
redistricted
in
this
process,
but
this
information,
this
data,
will
reflect
what
the
districts
look
like
today.
So
if
you
want
to
scroll
on
down
so
again,
this
is
the
legacy
data.
We
don't
expect
it
to
change
all
that
much,
but
it
should
be
pretty
similar
liz.
This
is
the
ppa
data.
Oh
oh
great,
okay!
Well,
thank
you!
So
then
these
are
the
official
numbers
for
the
districts.
H
Looks
like
ten
is
right
next
to
one.
So
it's
just
under
95
000.,
so
they're
all
and
it
looks
like
district
four
has
the
highest
with
a
hundred
and
almost
120
000
people,
and
you
can
see
the
deviation
numbers
as
well.
The
deviations
are
really
key
in
this
process.
We
need
to
keep
it
to
10
or
under
so
it
looks
like
district
4
is
about
17.1
and
the
lowest
one
looks
like
district
10,
so
it's
negative
7.1
percent.
H
What
we
do
is,
we
add
those
two
numbers,
absolute
values
together,
and
that
tells
us
the
total
deviation.
Clearly
it's
well
above
10.
So,
even
if
we
were
to
keep
the
lines
the
way
they
were
that
it
wouldn't
work
it,
so
it
will
need
to
change,
and
it's
up
to
you
as
the
commission
do
you
want
us
to
draw
some
maps
that
are
based
on
the
current
lines
and
we
just
try
to
equalize
it.
H
Or
do
you
want
us
to
draw
you
maps
that
completely
throw
the
lines
out
the
window
and
you
know,
base
it
off
of
the
law
and
koi
testimony
and
how
you
see
the
the
communities
in
san
jose.
So
that's,
essentially
what
the
data
is
telling
us
like
we're
gonna
have
to
make
some
pretty
substantial
changes
here.
H
Do
you
would
you
guys
like
to
go
through
the
districts
as
well?
Yeah,
great
okay,
you
can
go
perfect.
Here
is
district
one.
So
we
include
the
citizen
voting
age
population,
because
that
is
what
we
use
to
help
determine
if
there
are
any
section,
2
vra
compliance
issues.
H
So
here
district
10-
this
is
the
smallest
district
that
we
have
in
terms
of
population,
the
vr
or
the
cvap.
H
Figures
are
under
fit
well
under
50
percent,
for
any
minority
populations
go
ahead
and
go
to
the
next
slide
and
we'll
get
you
a
memo
that
will
show
you
in
detail
the
growth
over
the
last
10
years.
So
you
can
see
more
of
the
changes
from
the
2010
census
to
the
2020
as
well.
H
Oh,
do
you
have
do
you
have
any
questions,
commissioner?.
F
Alvarez,
yes,
looking
at
the
map
the
way
they're
sucks,
it's
interesting,
how
you've
got
this
two
and
two
areas
that
are
full
and
then
you've
got
this
straight
line
and
then
there's
an
empty
empty
spot
or
some
there's
something
in
the
middle.
That's
in
it.
How
is
that
you
know
the
definition
being
contiguous
and
and
as
much
as
much
to
put
it
together
as
a
mass?
F
How
did
that?
How.
F
G
A
C
I
actually
had
a
a
question
sort
of
tangentially
related
about
that,
but
if
for
district
10,
whether
for
this
district
that
we're
looking
at
here
mystery
two,
it
was,
I
believe
you
know
we
could
see
that.
I
guess
that's
the
101
corridor,
there,
that's
connecting
all
the
parts
there,
but
if
we
went
back
to
district
10,
it
actually
looks
like
there
is
no
connection
there,
which
is
kind
of
throwing
me
off.
I'm
I
was
looking
on
another
screen
at
a
map.
C
I
think
it's
from
2011
which,
where
everything
is
a
solid
mass,
so
I
I
figured
maybe
it
was
just
a
graphical
error,
but
if
it's
coming
up
like
this,
then
is
it
contiguous
yeah?
Our
is
this
supposed
to
be
how
it's
supposed
to
look
like,
because
everything
we've
gotten
so
far
has
been
saying
this
ain't
supposed
to
be
happening.
H
Well,
there's
a
couple
of
different
types
of
contiguities,
so
there's
physical
contiguity
where
everything
is
together
and
then
there's
functional
contiguity.
H
So
if
the,
if
there
is
unincorporated
territories
that
are
separating
one
part
of
the
city
from
another,
what
would
functionally
be
connecting
them
is
a
highway,
a
road
whatever
territory
is
closest
to
that
little
island
of
the
city
that
is
disconnected
it
would
be
connected
to
the
closest
and
most
direct
route
of
the
city.
G
F
H
C
H
D
Yes,
hi
along
the
lines
of
what
jonathan
was
saying:
I've
been
looking
at
the
current
maps
just
to
try
to
see
how
the
districts
fit
right
now,
and
it
would
help
me
a
lot
if
I
could
see
more
street
names
or
natural
boundaries
if
they're
a
freeway
or
something,
and
I
tried
to
enlarge
the
maps.
D
Maybe
I'm
doing
something
wrong,
but
I'm
having
trouble
seeing
the
actual
boundaries
that
separate
these
10
districts
currently,
and
it
would
help
me
out
a
lot
if
I
could
see
a
map
that
made
that
clear
what
those
actual
names
of
streets
are,
because
if
you
also
look
at
a
lot
of
testimony
which
we've
gotten
from
the
korean
community
they're
actually
naming
streets
and
there's
you
know
two
districts,
I
think
one
in
six
are
together
are
border
each
other.
And
I
need
to
look
up.
D
You
know
these
community
centers
and
the
things
that
they've
been
mentioning.
So
it
would
help
me
out
if
I
could
see
a
mat
number
one,
a
map
that
has
street
names
or
or
freeway
boundaries
or
whatever
they
are
currently
for
these
ten
districts
and
also
when
I'm
attempting
to
draw
my
own
district
map,
I'm
having
trouble,
because
where
I
want
to
draw
a
boundary,
I'm
not
quite
sure
what
street
I'm
on.
D
H
Okay,
well
addressing
your
first
question:
we
will
get
you
a
memo
with
all
of
the
with
this
atlas.
That's
what
we
call
this
and
you'll
be
able
to
see
it
a
lot
better
than
on
a
computer
screen
and
you'll
be
able
to
zoom
into
it
or
print
it
out
and
look
at
it,
but
it
does
have
street
names
there.
H
C
So,
commissioner,
collins,
so
I
I
just
pulled
up
our
district
r
thing
right
now.
You
actually
got
to
zoom
in
a
fair
distance
in
to
start
seeing
names
so
like
I
was
able
to
see
saratoga
avenue
and
some
of
the
smaller
arterial
roads
in
in
my
area.
But
the
base
map
is
on
al
is
on
a
light,
gray
canvas
and
I
think
most
folk
are
more
used
to
looking
at
one.
C
That's,
maybe
more
colorful,
maybe
kind
of
reminiscent
of
a
old
aaa
map
that
you
would
get
for
the
area
where
the
highways
would
be
red
or
very
bold,
dark
black
for
large
roads.
Something
like
that.
C
It
might
be
a
little
bit
difficult
to
determine
or
see
names
pop
up
on
a
light
gray
canvas
background,
while
we're
trying
to
play
around
with
clicking
on
blocks
or
something
like
that.
H
And
just
a
reminder
to
folks
about
districtor,
you
should
be
able
to
go
to
the
data
layer
section
and
there
are
neighborhoods.
You
can
click
on
the
neighborhood
to
sort
of
orient
yourself
to
where
you
want
to
go.
So
that
might
be
helpful.
If
you
can't
exactly
see
the
street
names
at
least
you'll
see
the
neighborhood.
H
Great,
so
here
we
see
the
northern
part
of
the
city.
This
deviation,
I
believe
this
one's
the
largest.
It
is
17.1.
H
So
if
we
do
keep
the
lines
or
try
to
keep
them
similar,
this
one
will
have
to
shrink
quite
a
bit
and
just
looking
at
the
citizen
voting
age
population,
we
see
that
there
is
an
asian
c-vap
population
or
agency
vap
of
over
50
percent,
so
something
to
keep
in
mind
in
terms
of
the
voting
rights
act.
H
And
then
here
is
district.
Five
we
see
citizen
voting
age,
population
latino
is
at
48
and
asian
is
at
35.
The
deviation
is
actually
below
the
equal
population.
So
technically
this
is
under
populated
according
to
the
essentially
2010
lines
and
go
to
the
next
slide.
H
We
see
that
this
is
actually
pretty
spot-on
in
terms
of
it
being
equal
population,
so
the
population
is
about
101
000
people,
so
that
will
give
you
a
sense
of
what
the
ideal
population
will
be
for
each
each
seat.
H
H
Here
is
district
7.
This
one
again
is
pretty
spot-on
for
deviation,
so
almost
at
that
ideal
number.
So
this
is
at
102
000
people-
and
here
we
see
an
asian
citizen
voting
age
population
of
48.
H
Here's
district
8:
this
is
about
98
000
people,
so
it's
under
it's
a
negative
deviation
of
3.2
percent.
H
So
this
is
an
area
that
we
could
expect
to
expand
and
again
we
can
draw
maps
according
to.
However,
you
want.
So
if
you
just
want
to
throw
out
the
lines-
and
you
know
draw,
however,
you
think
is
best.
We
can
do
that.
But
if
we
are
going
to
draw
an
ex
draft
map,
then
we
will
have
to
add
more
population
to
that
and
it
looks
like
we
have
a
citizen
voting
age
population
of
over
50
percent
for
the
asian
residents
in
this
area
and
go
to
the
next
slide.
H
And
here
is
district
9.
So
again
this
is
under
the
101
000
ideal
population
for
it
being
equal,
so
this
would
also
have
to
expand
and
the
sieve
cvap
populations
for
minority
protected
classes
it's
well
under
50.
H
B
Thanks
liz,
I've
got
a
couple
of
questions.
I
think
this
was
very
helpful
for
us
to
see
visualize
maps
in
terms
of
the
census
data.
Now
one
thing
that
I'm
hoping
you
can
provide
us
with
some
feedback
on
is:
how
do
we
get
from
these
coy
submissions
written
testimony
map
submittals
to
a
drawing
of
the
map?
B
It
seems
like
it's
easy
to
extrapolate
the
data
and
build
maps
from
the
census
data,
but
how
can
we
do
something
similar
for
the
communities
of
interest?
Testimony
we've
gotten
absolutely.
H
So,
of
course,
in
this
process
we
will
be
following
all
vra.
Fair
maps
act
traditional
redistricting
principles,
but
data
only
gets
us
so
far
right
in
terms
of
placing
the
lines.
H
That's
where
koi
testimony
comes
in,
that's
where
the
commission's
input
comes
in,
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
aren't
cutting
through
communities
diluting
their
voices.
So
we
take
those
communities
of
interest
and
we
look
where
they
are
in
the
maps
and
make
sure
that
we
are
following
or
we're
maintaining
communities
of
interest
as
best
as
we
can
so
again,
data
only
gets
us
so
far.
It's
really
the
community
input
that
tells
us
specifically
where
to
place
the
lines.
B
So
today,
during
our
discussion,
if,
if
the
commission
votes
to,
I
guess-
incorporate
the
koi
submissions
into
a
draft
map,
that's
a
direction
that
we
can
give
redistricting
partners,
absolutely
okay,
okay,
great
and
then
I
see
hands
raised.
Commissioner
colin,
did
you
have
a
further
question.
B
Thanks,
commissioner
bruns.
C
Yeah
so
in
the
production
that
y'all
are
gonna
be
getting
to
us
next
week
or
so,
would
it
be
possible
for
y'all
to
have
like
a
specific,
color
or
or
line
outline
for
county
areas
versus
like
we
saw
earlier,
like
link,
miss
reg,
said
of
what
is
a
park
or
something
like
that?
That
is
part
of
the
city
versus
you
know
what's
the
county,
so
we
don't
kind
of
freak
out
about
that
again
and
be
like.
H
C
H
I'm
I'm
taking
note
of
that
and
I'm
going
to
request
that
we
do
that.
I'm
sure
that
we
can,
but
I
will
confirm
with
you
once
I
talk
to
my
colleagues
but
that's
a
total,
fair
request
and
I
completely
understand
why
you
would
want
that.
C
Yeah,
I
I
imagine
that
the
areas
in
the
south
eastern
part
of
the
city
are
far
more
hodgepodged
with
with
county
territory
than
as
we
get
closer
to
the
city.
Senator.
B
Okay,
and
at
this
time
I
would
like
to
open
the
floor
for
public
comment
regarding
our
question
and
answer
section
with
redistricting
partners.
A
Great
great
yeah,
you
know
just
just
the
usual.
It
sounds
as
if,
like
all
you
guys
care
about,
are
certain
groups
of
people,
you
never
just
say
citizens,
it's
always
someone's
age
or
what
their
race
is
or
what
their
you
know
what
their
background.
It's
never
you
know
the
city,
the
citizens
of
district,
whatever
it's
always
hair
splitting
other
people.
Why
do
you
do
that?
Why
don't
you
all
count
us
as
equal
people
versus
the
age,
the
race,
the
sexual
identity,
the
the
racialized?
A
It
you
never
just
flat
out,
say
this
problem
or
this
issue
or
we're
talking
about
the
citizens?
The
other
thing
you
never
do.
I
want
to
know
why
politicians
and
these
powers
that
be.
Why
don't
you
ever
just
thank
all
the
taxpayers,
because
we
all
come
in
different
shapes
and
sizes
and
everything
else.
You
never
thank
us
and
you
always
seem
to
focus
on
certain
people.
It's
weird.
It's
almost
like
you
concentrate
on
certain
people
to
the
point
of.
Are
you
really
helping
them
or
not?
A
I
don't
know,
but
I
do
know
one
thing
that
people
like
me
are
kept
out
for
sure.
You
don't
want
to
hear
people
like
me,
you
guys
usually
hang
up
sam,
always
hangs
up
on
me.
He
finds
some.
You
know
harvard
way
to
hang
up
on
me
because
he
can't
handle
the
heat,
but
I
want
I
want
to
ask
you
one
thing:
why
you
just
don't
say
the
citizens
of
the
district,
the
citizens
of
san
jose
the
citizens
of
santa
clara
county?
A
It's
always
it's
always
a
color
or
a
number
or
or
some
sort
of
label.
Why
do
you
continue
to
do
that?
I
want
someone
to
answer
that
question
if
they,
if
they
have
the
nerve
to
do
it,
if,
if
they
have
the
stones
to
do
it,
I
bet
nobody
will.
I
bet
I'm
gonna
hear
crickets,
let's
see
what
you
guys
have
thanks
a
lot.
B
Okay,
thank
you
so.
B
I
guess
the
next
item
for
the
commission
to
discuss
is
what
what
is
it
that
how
we
would
like
the
maps,
the
draft
maps
to
be
drawn
by
redistricting
partners.
It
seems
that
we've
got
a
couple
of
options.
B
We
can
get
a
draft
map
based
on
the
census
data,
so
just
focusing
on
just
the
raw
changes
in
population
by
district,
and
we
also
have,
I
think,
to
consider
the
testimony
that
we've
received
through
community
of
interest
submissions
and-
and
I
think
we
need
to
kind
of
figure
out
a
framework
for
whether
we
want
to
use
all
of
the
information
that
we've
received
through
public
testimony
and
try
to
have
redistricting
partners
map
that
out
or
maybe
there's
a
way
to
overlay
that,
with
with
the
census
data.
B
C
Yeah
at
the
present
stage,
I
think
it
would
be
kind
of
difficult
for
us
to
decide
how
we
would
want
a
draft
to
look
like
next
week
if
we
don't
have
a
snapshot
of
what
it
looks
like
right
now,
while
we
definitely
should
take
in
the
community
of
interest
submissions,
we've
had
right
now
and
and
overlay
them
on
on
both
the
census
data
that
we
have
now
and-
and
I
guess
I
mean
american
community
survey,
but
mostly
the
census
again.
I
think
it's
kind
of
hard
to
do
that.
C
G
The
echo
commissioner
runs
comments
that
I
propose
that
we
start
with,
at
least
as
a
starting
point,
the
current
district
boundaries.
However,
from
what
we
heard
from
the
public
hearings,
the
community
members
didn't
necessarily
say:
there's
anything
broken
necessarily
with
the
current
boundaries.
However,
and
we
also
heard
about
concerns
with
their
community
of
interest,
neighborhood
associations,
groups
that
would
like
to
maintain
those
and,
of
course,
with
the
latest
census
data.
There
are
changes,
as
we
just
saw
from
liz's
presentation
that
we
will
have
to
take
into
account.
A
Yeah,
thank
you.
It
seems
like
applying
some
basic
logic
to
this,
if
possible,
that
you
should
have
an
original
map
and
then
a
map
based
just
purely
on
the
census
data
that
we
just
received,
that
they
provide
to
us
and
then
with
those
you
can
see
the
changes
obviously,
but
you
will
then
be
able
to
overlay
the
comments
that
we
received,
probably
in
a
secondary
session.
A
B
Thank
you.
I
think
that
makes
sense.
I
think
my
only
caution
to
to
the
commission
would
be
something
that
paul
had
mentioned
early
on
from
redistricting
partners,
that
once
we
have
the
data
and
once
we
have
kind
of
a
rough
idea
of
maps
that
it
may
be
a
little
more
challenging
to
to
see
the
communities
of
interest.
B
Can
I
say
there
any
other
comments
for
the
commission.
I
don't
have
the
commission.
B
F
You,
commissioner,
albert
yes,
I
I
hear
you
I,
but
I
as
I
was
listening,
I
I
am
getting
the
my
impression
from
the
discussion
is
that
we
do
want
the
census
maps
that
the
current
situation
with
the
districts,
but
I
also
heard
that
to
overlay
that
the
community
of
interest
in
those
different
areas
for
the
those
that
just
those
discussions
have
taken
place
so
that
we
can
see
in
the
current
districts
with
the
changes
with
it
with
the
census,
if
how
they
are
how
they
are
represented
in
those
districts
already.
H
Yeah
and
when
we
break
down
the
the
draft
maps
we
will
present,
you,
like,
I
went
over
in
the
original
presentation.
We'll
present
you
with
all
of
that
data,
so
all
of
the
districts
that
we
draw
will
incorporate
that
koi.
Testimony
that
we
based
it
off
of
so
you'll
see
each
of
the
districter
or
verbal
testimony
that
was
incorporated
into
those
districts.
H
And
that
helps
you
know
not
only
justify
the
lies,
but
it
explains
the
process
of
how
those
districts
got
to
where
they
were
and
again
you'll
get
different.
You'll
get
at
least
three
draft
maps
so
you'll
see.
Maybe
some
communities
are
with
you
know,
district
two
and
one
in
one
draft,
but
then
they're
with
district
four
and
another
draft.
H
So
that's
when
you
all
will
let
us
know
which
oh,
I
think
this
district.
I
think
this
community
needs
to
be
with
this
district
they're
more
in
line
with
them,
so
you
will
have
multiple
options
to
go
over
and
it's
your
judgment
call.
B
Okay,
thank
you
liz.
So
at
least
for
next
week
is
there
anything
you
need
from
us
to
be
to
provide
kind
of
a
draft
map
based
on
the
raw
data,
with
the
overlay
of
showing
the
communities
of
interest
based
on
what
we've
received.
H
I
think
I
think
that's
it
for
now.
Unless
there's
anything
else,
you
all
want
to
say,
but
you
can
always
reach
us
after
this
zoom
call
we're
available.
If
anybody
has
any
last,
you
know
discussion.
B
This
discussion
no
hands
are
up.
Okay,
thank
you.
Then
we
will
look
forward
liz
to
to
having
some
more
maps
and
information
to
look
at
and
next
week
offer
more
feedback
for
perhaps
some
changes
to
those
lines.
B
B
City
clerk,
tony,
did
you
have
anything
to
address
regarding
the
meeting
schedule
or
agenda
item
no.
E
We're
pretty
much
just
on
mapping
for
the
for
the
next
few
weeks
and
then
it'll
go
to
council
in
november.
The
drop
dead
final
date
is,
I
always
want
to
say
november
16th,
but
I
think
it's
the
18th.
No,
no,
it
is
november
16th.
So
that's
like
we
have
to
go
to
council
on
november
16th,
which
means
you
guys
need
to
be
done
with
this
by
the
end
of
october.
A
Hi
tony,
if
I
could
speak
in
on
this,
it's
the
deadline
for
the
report
and
recommendations
is
november,
8th,
I
believe,
november
16th
or
18th,
and
then
and
then
the
count.
So
so
that's
when
the
commission's
report
needs
to
be
complete
and
then
turned
over
to
the
council,
and
we
anticipate,
I
think
the
week
after
and
then
council's
deadline,
because
the
city
of
the
charter
city
is
is
a
little
different.
I
heard
december
15th
thrown
out.
A
We
have
a
little
bit
more
time
than
that
not
much
more
time
but
a
little
bit
more
time.
But
for
the
purposes
of
this
body,
the
report
needs
to
be
finished
by
november
16th.
E
Oh,
is
this
open,
open
form
or
meeting
schedule
meeting
schedule?
Okay,
we
have
one
hand
up.
A
Yeah,
I'm
just
waiting
for
open
forum.
You
guys
I
mean
my
god.
You
guys
are
dragging
this
one
out.
It's
like
it's
like
listening.
It's
like
listening
to
like
what
the
people
in
the
peanuts
cartoon
blah
blah
blah
blah
blah
blah
unbelievable
talking
about
nothing,
I
swear
to
god.
I
can't
wait
for
open
forum
thanks.
B
Okay.
Thank
you.
Next
item
public
comment,
open
forum.
This
is
the
time
for
public
comment
on
items
that
are
not
on
the
agenda.
The
brown
act
prohibits
the
commission
from
discussing
any
item
that
is
not
agendized.
Each
speaker
will
be
given
two
minutes.
Any
member
of
the
public
wishing
to
speak
can
use
the
raised
hand
feature.
E
A
H
A
The
entire
nation
speaking
today
on
all
those
tobacco
regulations.
A
A
What
this
city
focuses
on,
and
I
mean
redistricting,
my
god,
like
it's
going
to
change
anything
but
yeah
I
mean
the
city
wants
you
smoking,
marijuana
because
that's
where
they
get
a
lot
of
their
taxes
from
the
same
people
who
want
to
tax
or
want
to
regulate
cigarettes
out
of
existence,
can't
wait
for
the
tax
money
that
comes
in
for
marijuana
and
the
tax
money
has
is
taken
in
by
the
san
jose
pot
dealers.
I
mean
the
police
department,
I
mean
the
pot
dealers,
whatever
pd
pot
dealers
and
they
collect
the
rate.
A
They
collect
the
fees,
they
collect
the
taxes
and
where
does
all
this
money
go
because
you
can't
put
the
money
in
any
other
banking
system,
so
it's
all
cash.
I
want
I
like
to
see
transparency
of
where
all
the
marijuana
fees
and
taxes
go,
who
counts
the
money.
Where
is
it
stored?
Is
it
in
a
safe
somewhere?
A
B
Okay,
thank
you,
then,
with
that
this
meeting
of
the
redistricting
commission
is
now
adjourned
good
evening.
Everyone-
and
I
look
forward
to
seeing
you
next
thursday,
at
seven
o'clock.