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City of San José, California
Reimagining Public Safety Community Advisory Committee of October 13, 2021
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A
Packed
agenda,
but
it's
going
to
involve
a
lot
of
discussion,
so
we'll
get
right
into
it.,
but
before
we
do
that,
we
always
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
acknowledging
the
land
that
we
sit
on..
So
I
want
to
make
sure
we
do
our
land
land
acknowledgment
and
we
we
respectfully
acknowledge
that
we
hosted
this
meeting
on
the
lands
of
the
melech
aloni.
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Thank
you.
jamal,
are
we
kind
of
following
that
process
to
raise
our
hand
or
something
like
that
we
want
to
speak.
yes,
.
yes.,
though
that
will
help..
I
just.
I
was
just
looking
for
a
quick
ok.
yeah
ok.
sure,
no
problem..
So
there
were
two
people
that
I
could
see
in
our
breakout
group
myself
and
sparky
sparky
harlan
and
two.
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How
do
we?
How
do
we
do
that
effectively??
So
that's
what
the
conversation
is
going
to
be
for
for
most
of
the
meeting,
and
we
want
to
hear
from
you
all
to
see
what
is
it
that
you?
What
is
it
that
you
all
want
to
see
this
group
do??
How
do
we
want
to
do
it?,
hopefully,
by
the
end
of
the
meeting,
we
can
identify
a
steering
committee
or
come
very
close
to
it
and.
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This.
yeah,
go
ahead,,
paul.,
give
your
hand
up
and
then
throw.
yeah.
yeah..
Thank
you
jim,
and
thank
you
for
that.
Correction.
we
can
just
move
on
from.
That's
got
the
the
the
purpose
as
to
why
I'm
here
is
important..
There
is
a
history
of
there
is
a
history
and
a
documented
history
of
the
police
abusing
their
power
by
being
used
as
a
means
of
social
control
to
protect
the
capitalist
white
interest
in
the
city.
ok,.
So
how
do
we
use
this??
How
do
we
use
this??
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What
do
you
want
to
see
from
this
group
to
address
the
number
one
sb
fourteen
twenty
one?
I
want
to
implement
immediately
sb
fourteen
one
number
two.
I
would
like
lorry
builders
and
another
participant
to
participate
in
the
beginning
of
the
police,
academy.
there's
three
academies
per
year..
I
want
them
giving
their
testimonies
at
the
beginning
why
it's
sensitizes,
them.
it
sensitizes
the
police
force
to
the
ultimate
responsibility
that
that
we
lay
on
them,
which
is
the
ability
to
take
a
human
life
if
they
are
threatened
or
the
community..
That's
number
one
of
two
bottles.
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any
time
a
police
officer
gets
into
competition
with
the
serious
bodily
injury
or
a
death
he's
bottled
immediately
or
no
blood
for
serious.
I
paul,
I
think,
you're
talking
about
outcomes,
outcomes
from
the
group
which
we
need,
but
we're
not
we're
not
at
that
place
yet
because
it's
tough
to
think
about
how
do
we
operate
as
how
do
we?
How
do
we
get
ourselves
to
those
outcomes
that
I
don't?
I
don't
know
nothing
about
that
and
I
just
know
I
don't
want
to
know
anything
about
that,
but
I
care
about.
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That's
why
I'm
sorry
for
twenty
one
lori
at
the
police
academy,
not
only
at
the
beginning
but
also
in
it,
and
I
think
those
are.
I
think
those
are
two.
Those
are
two
outcomes
that
when
we
start
to
put
those
together
like
those
those
can
be,
those
can
be
voted
on
well,
as
recommendations
appreciate,
that..
I
think
I
consider
them
absolutes..
I
consider
them
if
the
group
is
in
line
with
something
like
that,
then
I
guess
I'm
a
part
of
the
wrong
group..
Yeah,,
we
might
be.
We
just
got
it.,
we
just
got.
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Moving
forward
is
what
I'm
looking
what
we've
done
in
the
past..
I
think
we're
steering
we're
trying
to
get
in
the
right
direction.
So
I'm
more
concerned
with
what
we're
doing
moving
forward-
and
I
think,
what's
important
for
me-
is
a
framework
that
we
kind
of
once
we
figure
out
the
steering
committee
and
stop,.
The
next
thing
we
look
for
afterward
is
to
figuring
out
a
framework
for
us
to
start
building
these
recommendations.
and
so,.
You
know,
is
a
framework
for.
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Yeah.,
I
think
we
and
I
don't
know
for
the
larger
group
to
discuss
or
the
steering
committee
to
discuss,
but
I
think
we
should
figure
out
what
work
gets
done
in
the
subcommittee
and
subcommittees
and
then
what
we
use
these
group
meetings
for..
I
think
we
need
to
make
sure
everyone
understands
the
brown
act
and
that
what
our
responsibilities
are
to
ensuring
we're
following
that
and
formatting
our
meetings
so
that
to
me
meetings.
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Sure
that
things
are
getting
transferred
the
information
in
case
someone
can't
make
one
versus
the
other.,
and
I
think
it's
important
for
all
of
us
to
know
when
each
meeting
is
happening,
so
we
can
all
participate
if
need
be,
because
these
are
all
public
meetings
like
sandra
said,.
I
really
think
it's
important
for
everyone
to
understand
the
specifications
of
bronek
and.
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My
first
time
as
part
of
a
committee
for
a
city-
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
including
everyone's
voice.,
so
thank
you,
paul,
for
sharing,
and
I
think
everyone
should
be
taking
note
like
he
is
a
member
of
the
community,
and
he
has
a
lot
of
experience
specifically
and
everything
that
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
over
the
next
few
months..
And
so
we
definitely
need
to
be
listening
to
him
and
making
sure
that
we're
following
through
on
those
things.
and
so
yeah,.
We.
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I'm
a
come
back
to
some
of
these
to
make
sure
we
get
everybody
and
it's
a
lot
of
questions
in
the
chat.
If,
if
the
people
have
answers,
I
don't
know
who
I
can't
navigate
the
chair
and
and
the
discussion.
So
if
people
who
are
familiar
can
answer
some
of
the
questions,
that
would
be,
the
awesome
go
ahead.
sorry..
So
I'm
a.
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Presbyterian,
pastor
and
like
presbyterians
are
known
for
their
love
of
polity
and
very
clear
structure
of
committees
and
what
they
do
and
blah
blah
blah,
and
I
totally
hear
you,
paul,
that
robert's
rules
are
definitely
white,
supremacist
system..
They
can
be
used
to
exclude
and
they
can
also
be
used
to
provide
voice
for
all
people
and
to
come
to
some
kind
of
decision.
It
may
not
always
be
consensus.,
so
robert's
rules
are
one
option..
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A
Thing
that
I
really
wanted
to
say
was
that
in
the
in
the
drive
folder,
we
added
a
folder
for
the
alternatives
to
policing
and
in
it
we
are
posting
all
of
our
minutes
for
every
single
meeting..
And
so
that's
something
that
I
think
that
all
the
other
committees,
including
the
steering
committee,
should
be
doing
so
that
the
entire
everyone
has
access
to
those
minutes
and
understands
what's
happening
in
those
committees
and
that's
a
place
where
we
can
put
resource
and
research
that
we've
been
doing..
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You
need
any
any
any
thoughts?.
I
I
look
for
disclosure.,
I'm
a
processor.,
I'm
a
therapist
by
trade.-
this
is
just
how
I
do
things.,
so
I'm
all
for
giving
people
space
to
share
before
we
jump
right
into
work..
Yeah.
would
probably
been
in
meetings
where
they
talk
way
too
much.
You
know
probably
also
been
in
groups
where
all
you
do
is
do
a
bunch
of
work
and
you
realize
that
the
dynamics
are
all
so.
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For
the
steering
committee
we
do.,
we
do
we
nominate
now,
so
people
are
found
discussing
the
vote
next
meeting..
Do
we
want
to
try
to
come
to
this
meeting??
The
question
one
of
the
questions
I've
heard
is:
what
is
the
steering
committee
do?
right.
so
like
have
we
set
the
framework
for
what
that
committee
does
before
people
just
jump
on
it?,
so
another.
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Push
the
stipend
money
out
if
people
didn't
have
nonprofits
where
they
could
do
that.,
so
I
did
want
to
say
I'm
going
to
work
with
latoya
and
I'm
just
processing
it..
Can
I
like
you,
jamal?,
I'm
just
trying
to
be
the
conduit
to
keep
things
moving
along
and
to
get
the
youth
council
back
on
track
and.
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however,
since
been
informed
that
that's
just
a
check
and
date
with
the
city
council
and
that
we
have
perhaps
have
longer
than
that..
So
I
think
no
one
in
order
to
figure
out
a
work
plan
and
what
and
how
we're
going
to
do
this,,
we
kind
of
need
to
know
what
our
timelines
are,
and
everyone
needs
to
have
the
same
expectation
of
those
timelines.
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Flexibility
to
be
to
actually
make
these
as
ad
hoc
committees,
so
they
do
not
have
to
be
subjected
to
the
same
public,
noticing
brown
act
kind
of
requirements..
It
gives
us
some
flexibility
around
that.,
so
the
six
months
had
a
rhyme
or
reason
to
it,
because
there's
flexibility
in
terms
of
being
able
to
do
things
with
more
flexibility
than
we
have
right
now..
But
we
don't
have
to
follow
the
anything
else.
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Budget
committee
or
part
of
the
steering
committee
like
who's
going
to
approve?.
How
are
we
going
to
request
funds?
who's,
approving
that
spending
or
tracking
that
spending?
And
what's
the
process
to
that,
because
we're
trying
to
do
outreach
to
our
community
and
for
the
disability
community
in
order
to
have
interpreters
and
things
we,
we
would
appreciate
having
funds
to
support
that,
but
it
hasn't
been
easy
or.
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Certain
committees.
right.
and
I
know
for
a
fact,
because
I've
applied
to
be
on
certain
committees,
the
minute
they
see
my
name
they
dismiss
me..
So
the
fact
that
I
was
nominated
is
a
plus
for
because
now
I'm
going
to
be
a
voice
for
all
the
families,
and
that
needs
to
be
what
guidance?
ok,,
what
the?
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Everybody
on
this
committee,
if
you
truly
want
to
make
a
change,,
you
have
to
let
the
voices
of
those
be
at
the
forefront
of
all
these
decision,
making.
other
than
that
it's
going
to
be
useless
because
we
know
what
it's
going
to
take,
because
our
lives
have
been
impacted
and
we
are
trying
to
save
anybody
else
in
our
community
from
being
affected.
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Warriors
that
they're
out
there
in
war
with
us
and
that's
the
problem.,
nobody's
listening
and
we
need
to
listen,
please
you
guys,,
I'm
begging
you,
because
if
not
I've
done
eight
years
of
my
life
giving
to
try
to
make
a
difference
and
the
sb
fourteen
twenty
one
was
one
of
the
laws
that
we
got,
and
that
was
the
only
reason
I
got
a
video
released
of
antonio's
murder
still
to
this
day.
Two
years
later,
fourteen
twenty
one
san
jose
pd
has
not
given
me
everything
I'm
entitled
to.
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Desire
to
to
get
to
get
moving
on
some
stuff,
some
change
it
up
and
get
us
get
us
shifted
in
any
direction
to
make
some
decisions.
dusty,.
You
had
your
hand
up
and
you
take
it
down.,
but
jim,
go
next..
If
you
wanted
to
say
something,
say
something
after
jim
darcy
thank
you,
jamal,
and
thank
you
for
those.
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Think
we
discussed,
and
one
of
our
first
committee
meetings
was
that
we
would
have
a
representative
from
that
subcommittee
on
the
steering
committee
and
I
think
that's
a
good
way
to
go,
because
that
subcommittee
member
does
have
input
into
the
steering
committee
in
making
up
the
agenda
and
the
direction
we
want
to
go.
And
I
just
like
to.
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Subcommittee
to
have
a
representative
reverend
talked
about
like
twenty
five
percent.
It's
like
a
seven
eight
person..
I
think
we
need
to
make
some
decisions.
Here.
poncho
did
put
together
a
plan
and
I
think
that-
and
it
wasn't
just
part
of
it-
there
were
there
was.
I
want
to
make
sure
I
wasn't
just
like
ponsoldt,
had
his
plan
and
made
it
happen
like
there
was
again
when
we
did
the
work,
the
few
of
us
that
were
doing
the
work
in
the
ta
ta
ta
ta
move
this
along.
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A
Going
to
stop
that
plan
because
I
think
we
saw
people
echoing
they
wanted
to
see
some
different.
I
think
that's
fair.,
that's
fair,!
Right.
well,,
you
know,!
Six
of
us,
seven
of
us
were
in
a
room
trying
to
get
this
process
going,
but
that
doesn't
include
they
did
the
twenty
twenty
eight
voices
that
are
in
this
space
that
are
voting
members
that
were
that
were
asked
to
be
on
this
committee
from
their
groups,,
their
organization..
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We're
all
we're
all
at
this
table,
because
we
care
deeply
and
want
more
or
less
the
same
things
and
I'm
representing
lead
filipino..
I
do
want
to
bring
back
the
conversation
around.
I
think
tamara
said
it:
the
importance
of
engaging
our
youth
and
making
sure
that
we
are
also
creating
spaces
for
them
to
to
join
in
these
sessions,
because
in
the
last
couple
meetings
I've
attended.
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In
this
space
we,
it
has
been
a
resounding
theme,
at
least
for
me,
in
terms
of
this
questioning
around
where,
where
where
our
youth
adviser,
because
lead
filipino,
also
has
a
member
of
our
youth,
organizing
team,
that
is
on
that
youth
advisory
segment.
And
it
is
a
glaring
gap
right
now,
at
least
from
where
I
sit,
and
we
are
working
directly
with
the
family
of
angelo
pinto,
which
was
a
gentleman
that
lost
his
life
in
the
city
of
antioch
granat.
But
through
a
meeting
in
that
cold,
which
then
spurred
a
bunch
of
state
level,
advocacy.
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G
This
committee
and
the
fervor
that
we
feel
and
the
angst
that
we
have
and
the
emotions
that
we're
holding,
we
need
a
little
bit
of
structure..
We
need
to
know,
at
least
for
me,
and
the
meetings
I've
been
a
part
of.
I
was
with
you
all
in
april
when
we
tore
apart
the
first
reimagining
public
safety
committee,
and
here
we
are
in
the
next
iteration..
I
think
that
we
have
these
subcommittees.
We've
laid
down
some
tracks,
but
we
need
to
know
in
six
months
who
are
representing
our
recommendations
to
what
is
our
first
stop.?
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So
nebulous
and
amorphous
that
I
can't
work
in
that,
and
it
makes
it
hard
for
me
to
go
back
to
my
organization
and
our
families
and
our
youth
and
say
this
is
what
we're
doing,
but
we're
not
really
sure.
Like
the
timelines,,
the
deadlines.,
I'm
not
saying
that
we
need
to
establish
community
agreements,
tonight.
we're
not
going
to
get
there,
but
I
think
at
the
very
least
what
what
is
the
expanse
of
time
that
we're
working
with
in
what
are
the
entities
that
we
will
be
bringing
our
recommendations
for
to?
H
These
important
deadlines
and
touchstones
that
we
all
need
to
have
some
knowledge
of,
and
that
needs
to
be
shared
in
that
google
drive,
because
I
think
for
us
we're
all
moving
fast
and
to
have
a
little
bit
of
structure
around
concrete
deadlines
would
help
us
with
our
organizing
and
how
we're
going
to
mobilize,
especially
at
these
subcommittees
and
how
we're
all
thinking
about
our
membership
in
these
different
pieces
and
then
stitching
together
recommendations.
So
we
need
to
know,
is
it
january??
Is
that
february
is
march,?
H
F
This
this
deadline
coming
up
of
lots
of
city
processes
and
things,
but
also
their
families,
are
really
depending
on
us
and
people
depending
on
us
to
do
something..
And
so
it
seems
as
though
we
have
an
opportunity
today,
if
not
to
appoint
a
steering
committee,
because
I
am
hearing
the
thoughts
on
having
youth
present
for
that
conversation..
But
maybe
between
now
and
when
this
meeting
is.
A
See
from
the
steering
committee
delivered
a
sermon
that
is
a
work
plan
for
the
term
of
this
board
and
then
a
timeline
and
some
other
kind
of
nuts
and
bolts
information
that
helps
us
to
kind
of
see
a
blueprint
or
see
a
map
for,
however
long
this
timeline
is,,
whether
it's
six
months
or
something,,
we
extend
out
further
than
that.,
but
I
think
if
we
as
a
group
had
a
work
plan
or
a
map
to
look
at
will
be
kind
of
new
months
out
or
meetings
were
really
thought
through
prior
to
us.
Even.
F
B
A
Establish
yeah.
yeah.
Well,
I
think
it
needs
to
be
at
least
an
appreciation..
I
don't
care
about
process..
I
don't
care
about
your
steering
committee.,
I
don't
care
about
who's
in
charge
of
what..
I
honestly
don't
care.
What
I
want
to
see
is
cooperation
with
the
mandate.
chief,.
I
watch
chief
marcus
sit
twice..
I
watched.
A
A
Don't
we
start
there??
He
said
I
need
your
cooperation..
I
can't
do
this
by
myself..
I
need
the
support
of
the
community
since
he
stated
sb
fourteen
point
specifically,
why
don't
we
just
start
our
baby
steps,
and
I
don't
want
all
of
our
recommendations
sent
to
the
sent
to
the
council
at
one
time
no
piecemeal.
I
suggest
we
start
with
financing
that
the
finance
as
before
when
when
that's
a
good
start..
Ok,
because
it's
already
state
law,
it's
easy
do
and
let's
see
if
they
turn
it
down..
Ok,
let's,
let's,
let's
test
them.
A
A
A
Think
a
sense
of
urgency,
just
you
seem
to
have
said
nothing.
That's
a
very.
I
would
say
I
respect
your
sense
of
urgency..
Don't
don't
be
shy.,
it's
not
a
sense
of
urgency..
No
sense
of
urgency
came
from
the
police
chief
himself.
yes.
when
he
still
gives
me
fourteen
point
one.
So
don't
do
that
what
we
really
don't.
my
apologies,
paul..
I
don't
accept
an
apology.,
no
problem..
I
trust
your
ten..
I
think
that
honesty
should
be
the
story
committee's
responsibility
to
take
in,.
You.
A
A
A
G
G
A
H
H
A
G
E
A
A
A
A
A
Then,
within
that
we
can,
we
can
talk
about
strategy,
how
we
mobilize
to
get
those
recommendations.
Passed.
we've
got
two
more
minutes
with
this..
Then
we're
going
to
we're
going
to
we're
going
to
make
going
to
vote.
Well,
some
I
don't
know,
I
don't
know
it's
policy
around
voting,
punch.
ok,
chris,.
You
can
help
me
with
that,
but
we
need
to
make
some
decisions
so
better
and
with
the
steering.
A
E
E
E
Could
probably
probably
get
that
information
of
what
we
got
when
we
first
filed
the
fortune,
twenty
one
on
behalf
of
like
all
the
families
and
stuff.,
but
like
I
said,,
not
all
of
us
got
everything
that
we
requested,
but
we
did
get
a
general
of
the
police
department,
all
the
officers
who
had
misconducts
in
the
past..
So
we
do
have
that.
E
E
E
E
E
A
E
E
B
E
E
G
A
Yeah.
I
just
wanted
to
in
case
people
didn't
hear
it
part
of
the
motion.
The
actual
motion
from
tarab
was
any
other.
Any
additional
responsibility
is
to
be
voted
on
another
time.,
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
was
captured
in
the
minutes
that
we
do.
We
are
leaving
that
open
in
the
future.
That
should
some
other
things
come
up
that
we
can
vote
on
that.
That
was
I.
E
A
A
A
G
B
C
About
police
alternatives
to
reform,
accountability,,
oversight,
everything.,
and
so
I
hope
everyone
is
excited
about
that
work..
I
certainly
am,
and
I
hope
that
we
don't
put
limitations
on
each
other
and
instead
we
empower
each
other
and
ultimately
the
community
and
inspire
some
change
and
reform..
So
thank
you
for
letting
me
lodge
that
objection
and
make
some
comments
you
should
tell
before
we
go
to.
A
A
A
yeah.,
so
I
don't
have
the
history
and
ok
and
the
correct
information
anyway
jamal.
That
was
something
that
I
wanted
to
share.
I
appreciate.
thank
you
very
much.
yeah.,
and
when
and
and
once
we
identified
so
so,
what
we,
what
I
wrote
down
and
what
we
took
in
the
notes
about
the
role
of
the
committee
is
what
we're
using..
We
can
readjust
that
with
another
vote.
A
A
G
A
A
A
Motion
that
my
motion
is
to
do
a
placeholder
for
representative
the
youth
council
to
the
steering
council.
A
H
There.
they
are
not
on
the
call
now
for
other
reasons,
as
they
talked
about
with
the
stipend.,
but
for
tonight
I
think
it's
important
that
we
hold
we
hold
space,
for.
I
think
it's
very
important
that
you
are
being
heard
to,
especially
because
my
son
is
twelve
years
old
now
and
he
was
affected
by
his
dad
being
killed
when
he
was
four
and
he
his
voice
needs
to
be.
A
A
That
he
wrote
and
comments
made
when
he
was
little
and
it
triggers
me
like
to
be
in
that
kind
of
a
mindset
at
such
a
young
age..
His
voice
needs
to
be
heard
because
he's
been
impacted
and
a
lot
of
these
youth
they
have
their
voices
are
always
silenced
too,
like
you
can
be
seen,
but
not
heard
in
the
school
systems.
juvenile.
A
Also,
their
voices
are
very
important
to
be
heard.
yeah.
and
we
and
the
youth,
the
youth
committee
was
a
was
in
the
proposal
and
we're
going
to
push
forward.
Again.
there's
some
resetting
things
need
to
happen
with
that,
but
we
need
that
so
and
laurie
we
have
a
thirteen
year
old
on
the
youth
council
already
so
they're
going
to.
They
want
to
do
hearings
to
youth
in
the
community.,
so
I
think
you'll
hear
more
from
them
soon..
A
E
E
E
E
A
C
C
B
B
A
Name's
peter
hamilton.,
I'm
an
assistant
to
the
city
manager
and
the
city
manager's
office
and
I've
been
helping
try
to
coordinate
some
of
the
the
details
on
this..
So
I
have
talked
with
our
attorneys
office
and
his
poncho
said
this
committee
does
have
the
ability
to
appoint
under
the
brown
act,
to
appoint
ad
hoc
committees
such
as
the.
A
C
C
Soon,
as
they
exist
more
than
six
months,
then
you
have
to
just
like
for
this
meeting.
You
have
to
start
doing
agendas
and
having
public
meetings
and
what
you,
but
those
are
really
the
only
two
rules
other
than
that
you
can.
This
committee
can
appoint
whoever
you
with.
so
peter,
just
to
clarify
sparkie.
C
C
A
A
C
C
A
Didn't
need
everybody
there.
it's
just
to
steward
the
process
not
to
govern
the
process..
If
it
was
a
governmental
function,
I
would
say:
let's
go
to
thirteen.,
but
since
it's
an
administrative
and
interface
function,
I
felt
just
having
hands
on
deck
to
interface,
with
the
city
and
all
of
that..
That's
what
makes
so.
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
Is
the
read
off
what
I
hear.
A
A
A
That's
a
really,
really
heavy
task
to
go
back
and
forth
and
that
sort
of
all
the
time
I'm
helping.
yeah,
we're
going
to
leave
the
hands
up
for
a
while..
I
mean
what
I
can
do
is
just
to
make
sure
is
one
of
the
ones
I
could
do.
A
roll
call
like
I
could
just
read
off,
and
that
is
yeah..
So
I
want
to
try.
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
Oh
yes,
yes,
yes.
and.
A
A
A
A
Props
man.
thank
you
and
thank
everybody
for
their
time,,
their
patience.
we're
over,
and
thank
you
for
this
work.
we'll
get
these
notes.
Out..
We
got
a
committee.
I
do
want
to
make
sure
for
the
sake
of
the
agenda,
that
we
do
a
quick
charter
review
commission
update
from
chris
and
then
the
public
come
in
and
then
we
adjourn
the
meeting.
so
again,.
Thank
you
chris.!
Can
you
go
ahead?
Help
us
with
that?
ok,,
let's
see
if
I
can
find
ok,
so
I
had
on
this.
Ok.
A
A
A
India
for
youtube
video
that
you'll
find
only
there.
There
are
some
examples
of
what
happens
other
cities
as
compared
to
other
cities..
So
it's
a
really
good
comprehensive
look
at
what
we
have
versus
what
we
could
possibly
do.,
but
here
are
some
of
the
things
that
the
ipa
can
do
as
a
result
of
merrijig
ipa.
A
A
Of
force
incidents
resulting
in
death
or
serious
bodily
injury
without
a
complaint,
the
ipa
review
and
audit
misconduct
investigations
initiated
by
the
department
against
the
sworn
officers..
The
ipa
may
be
redacted
police
records
to
make
recommendation
and
on
department
policies
under
certain
conditions
and
the
city
council
may
change
epa's
duties
without
regard
without
requiring
the
public
vote,.
The
city
may
need
to
meet
and
confer
with
the
police
union
and
I'll
just
share.
Just
a
few
of
the
quotes
that
caught
my
attention.
again,.
I
encourage
you
all
to
look
at
it..
It's
really
informative,
but
the.
A
More
records
for
review,
but
it
has
for
qualifications,
they
must
be
on
the
subject
related
to
a
complaint.
That's
been
issued..
They
must
be
directly
related
to
a
topic
on
a
workplan
submitted
to
council
and
approved
by
the
council.-
all
the
records
shall
be
redacted
and
our
recommendation
is
made
by
the
ipa
will
be
reviewed
by
the
city
manager.,
the
city
attorney
and
the
city
council
in
closed
session
before
they
are
publicly
disseminated..
This
does
not
include
criminal
investigations
which
go
to
a
special
special.
A
A
A
Before,
there
are
some
restrictions
on
what
she
can
do.
If
the
committee
wants
to
be
a
change,,
it
requires
a
change
in
the
city
charter..
All
the
internal
affairs
investigations
are
confident.,
so,
unless
reviewed
by
judge
by
a
judge
in
a
closed
session,,
she
did
make
a
note
that
california
is
among
the
most
restrictive
in
terms
of
police,
accountability
and
confidentiality.
In
most
cases,
in
terms
of
the
missing
confidential,
there
are
no
automatic
triggers
for
ipa
investigations,
including
death,
and
so
there
is
nothing
that
automatically
triggers
an
ip
investigation..
A
It
has
to
be
related
to
a
complaint..
Ipa
participates
in
a
panel
related
to
training
the
equipment
that
they
use
or
procedure,
but
is
not
necessarily
reviewing
individual
officers
and
their
fitness
for
their
position..
She
did
make
the
comment
that
comment
that
redacted
reports
are
cumbersome
and
then
investigations
of
police
misconduct
should
be
conducted
by
people
other
police
themselves,
and
this
is
her
opinion
again.
The
all
the.
A
A
So
the
way
the
charter
works,
and
once
again
this
is
the
problem
that
the
police
unions
always
have
a
say
and
the
city
manager
they
need
to
be
taken
out
of
the
equation,
because
they're
going
to
be
the
ones
that
are
always
going
to
put
in
any
work
we
do
to
put
forward,
and
it's
like.
The
police
union,
should
just
stick
to
what
the
unions
were
meant
for
for
in-house,
promote
whatever
for
them
not
to
get
involved
with
what
happens
for
the
city
and
how
the
city
operates
and
how
they
want
public
safety.
A
and
that's
what
is
the
biggest
problem:
the
police
unions,?
They
need
to
get
out
of
the
charter.
Somehow
we
need
to
get
them
out
of
their
way..
They
don't
have
so
much
power
to
defeat
our
purpose..
You
know,
they're,
like
a
thorn
in
the
side
of
everyone
like
they're,
they're,
evil
people.,
I'm
serious.
they're
evil,
because
they
don't.
Even
if
the
police
say
the
police
wants
to
see
changes,.
Maybe
the
police
unions
will
make
it
impossible
for
the
police
chief
to
make
it
because
that's
how
evil
they
use
their
whiteness
to
do.
That.
A
and
most
of
the
police
union
leaders
all
white,,
they
don't
represent
central
city..
So
I'm
sorry,
that's
going
to
be
a
big
problem..
We
need
to
change
a
charter
to
get
them
out
or
figure
out
a
way
how
to
get
the
police
unions
say,
and
the
city
manager,
because
the
taxpayers
pay
his
salary.
he's
always
going
to
go
against
what
the
people
want
and
he
needs
to
not
have
so
much
of
a
say..
We
have
to
figure
out
how
to
take
that
away
from
them
that
they
have
too
much
power
to
hurt
our
communities.
absolutely..
A
A
A
Is
what
was
for
during
the
chinatown
bourges,
which
was
articulated
yesterday
in
such
a
cavalier?
It
was
disgusting.
What
perales
did
with
that,
because
what
he
didn't
do
is
censure
why
this
happened.
they
burned
down
five
chinatowns..
I
guarantee
you
that
a
police
department
knew
about
it
and
didn't
care
why?,
because
they
were
not
white..
This
entire
city
was
the
capital
of
california
for
the
first
two
years
it
became
a
state.
A
A
History
of
scelzi
was
centered
in
the
county
in
the
county,
historical
context
record,
and
what
that
is
is
the
story
of
san
jose.
This
is
the
accepted
document
of
what
made
scelzi
what
it
is.
Titled
was
a
thirty
third
degree,
mason
I'll
give
you
one
guess
as
to
who
thomas
phelan
was
be
third
degree
mason
connected
to
a
ten
and
what
they
did.
Is
they
covid
over
with
this
narrative
of
the
california
pioneer
and
by.
A
A
A
Know
why
they
were
formed?.
Do
you
know
who
these
people
are??
Do
you,
whether
blackberrys
you
know
the
history
of
what
happened
to
them??
Absolutely
not.,
you
have
no
knowledge
of
that?,
absolutely
no..
My
time
is
wasted..
No.
You
never
said
that
to
any
group.
Ever
in
this
group.-
my
time
and
my
experience
and
my
knowledge
and
my
connection
to
these
systems
is
wasted
street,
and
that
pains
me.
A
It
hurts
me
to
be
able
to
say
what
to
this
committee
I
have
to
because
you
have
absolutely
no
clue
about
history,
about
what
has
happened
to
us
in
the
city
and
what
has
happened
to
mexicans
native
americans.
Eighteen,
forty,
nine
information
that
police
department.
I
respect
you,
but
I
respect
you
to
the
utmost
because
you
feel
only
person
that
I
didn't
see.
I
was
there
when
you
got
and
when
he
got
up
the
old
person
from
the
public
that
was
there.
I
was
kicked
out
.,
they
heard
my
name
and
they
kicked
me
out..