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City of San José, California
Reimagining Public Safety Community Advisory Committee of October 27, 2021
Agenda https://sanjose.legistar.com/View.ashx?M=A&ID=900368&GUID=8651C4F1-48B5-489F-894A-B1F16133260B
A
A
First
of
all,
I'd
like
everyone
to
know
that
we
have
translation
available
in
spanish
and
today,
mccolley
will
be
here,
helping
us
with
translation..
I
just
like
to
remind
you
to
if
you
would
like
translation
in
spanish
or
english
to
click
the
little
world
globe
icon
on
the
right
of
your
screen
and
choose
the
language
you
would
like
for
translation
and
and
miguel,.
If
you
could
give
this
announcement
in
spanish,
I
really
appreciate
it..
So
we
are.
A
A
Like
to
respectfully
acknowledge
that
we
hosted
this
meeting
on
the
lands
of
the
mueck
malony
people
who
have
stewarded
this
land
throughout
the
generations,
we
commit
ourselves
to
partner
with
our
indigenous
sisters
and
brothers
to
celebrate
and
honor
their
legacy
in
our
collective
work
for
justice
and
in
our
care
for
these
lands.
We
benefit
from
today.,
but
first
we're
going.
A
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
Really
want
you
to
know
about
stuff
that
happens
in
their
lives,
and
then
you
hear
things
all
over
the
media
and
that
has
really
negative
implications
on
children.
Just
like
you
know
your
work,
like
your
coworkers,
like
you,
know,,
just
just
everything.,
so
it
was
like
it
was
just
a
really
hard
time
and
I
think
yeah,
there's
so
many
aspects
to
an
officer
involved,
shootings
that
people
don't
realize
like
how
the
families
are
affected..
B
B
Know,,
if
anyone's
killed
in
a
homicide,,
the
families
are
treated.
One
hundred
percent
different.
they're
going
to
need
services.
they're,
getting
therapy.
they're,
getting
like
funeral
compensation
like
it's
just
different..
I
mean
just
from
the
way
the
da's
talk
to
or
the
police
talk
to,
you,.
There's
no
compassion.!
It's
almost
like
they're
irritated
that
you
can't
ask
questions.
B
It
affects
my
children.
I
just
I
diagnosed
with
ptsd..
I
thought
the
past
years.
I
just
had
anxiety
and
they
said
no,,
it's
not
anxiety..
It's
from
what
happened..
I
think
a
lot
of
it
was
subdued,
because
you
don't
really
hear
about
officer,
involved,
shootings
and
then
now
with
george
floyd
and
like
everything
going
on
it's
like
everywhere..
So
I
think
a
lot
of
families
are
having
a
lot
of
a.
B
A
C
As
todd
mentioned,,
I'm
sandra
asher.,
I'm
a
disabled
person
and
mother
of
a
teenager
with
autism
and
significant
mental
health
challenges.,
I
was
nominated
to
the
reimagining
committee
by
parents.
Helping
parents
where
I
sit
on
the
board
of
directors.
hp
is
our
local
family
engagement
and
resource
center
in
santa
clara
county
for
parents
of
all
ages
with
children
with
disabilities.
next
slide.
Please.
C
The
beginning
of
october
parents,
helping
parents
in
collaboration
with
our
partners
at
hope,
services,
sacred
heart
community
service,
san
andreas
regional
center
and
the
silicon
valley,
independent
living
center,
held
a
listening
center.
A
listening
session
to
get
the
input
from
our
local
disability.
C
Approximately
90
attendees
and
hosted
11
small,
facilitated
breakout
group
discussions
because
we
know
these
conversations
are
often
bringing
up
past
trauma
and
could
be
triggering..
We
also
had
to
break
out
rooms
with
trauma
therapists
available
to
support
our
participants..
You
can
see
the
breakout
of
the
attendees..
We
did
have
people
with
disabilities
as
well
as
parents,
allies
and
professionals
in
support
of
the
disability
community
attend.,
and
it's
important
to
note
that
attendees
checked
multiple
categories.,
so
this
isn't
just
each
individual
response.
C
C
We
asked
our
community
for
specific
questions.
First,
we
asked
what
they
would
like
city
and
county
leaders
to
know
about
their
or
their
loved
ones.
Experiences
in
regards
to
law
enforcement..
We
also
wanted
to
know
what
they
thought
police
didn't
understand
about
their
disability..
Following
that
we.
C
C
Obviously,
we
heard
a
lot
of
information
and
more
than
I
can
just
share
in
our
brief
time,
together
this
evening.,
but
from
the
feedback,
three
main
concerns
have
risen
to
the
surface..
The
first
there's
a
significant
fear
in
the
community
that
law
enforcement
could
exacerbate
a
situation
or
pose
a
danger
to
people
with
disabilities
during
the
crisis..
C
C
There's
a
big
need
for
them
to
understand
how
to
identify
behavior,
that's
maladaptive
versus
criminal
parents.,
we're
worried
the
police
would
be
called
by
their
neighbors
or
others
if
they're
out
in
the
community,
while
trying
to
de-escalate
their
child,
because
those
interactions
can
often
look
very
scary
and
out
of
control
to
those
who
don't
understand.
What's
happening.,
it.
C
Was
interesting
that
this
call
for
better
understanding
and
training
rose
to
the
surface,
because
we
know
that
our
police
department,
during
their
training,
gets
one
hour's
worth
of
training
on
developmental
disabilities
in
the
san
andreas
regional
center
and
our
specifically
on
autism
from
the
morgan
autism,
center
and
time
with
nami,
to
talk
about
mental
health.
however,
for
san
jose.
C
Heightened
by
our
population
that
one
of
our
attendees
recently
penned
an
op
ed
for
the
san
jose
spotlight
and
the
final
concern
was
a
need
for
consultation,
coordination
or
alternative
systems
to
engage
service
providers
in
emergency
response..
There's
a
wide
range
of
disabilities
and
not
everyone
has
the
same
needs
or
presents
the
same
in
a
crisis
as
the
saying
goes,
if
you've
met
one
person
with
autism,
you've
met
one
person
with
autism..
C
C
Discussed
being
able
to
connect
law
enforcement
with
those
agencies
to
better
understand
each
individual's
needs,
such
as
having
a
flag
and
dispatch
that
person
is
a
regional
center
client
and
being
able
to
contact
a
caseworker
at
the
regional
center.
I'll,
provide
the
committee
a
more
complete
summary
of
our
feedback,
as
well
as
my
conversations
with
our
training
providers
following
this
meeting.
next
slide.
Now,.
C
I'd
like
to
introduce
you
to
lianne
davis,
who
leads
the
arc's
national
center
for
criminal
justice
and
disability.
lee-anne
has
twenty
five
years
of
experience
of
criminal
justice,
advocacy
and
community
organizing..
For
the
past
eight
years,
she's
been
working
with
the
national
center
for
criminal
justice..
C
The
arc
is
a
nonprofit
organization
which
promotes
and
protects
the
human
rights
of
people
with
intellectual
and
developmental
disabilities..
Their
national
center
on
criminal
justice
and
disability
serves
as
a
bridge
between
criminal
justice
and
disability
communities.
following
leeann's
presentation,
we'll
discuss
your
recommendations
on
what
reforms
or
actions
you
think
would
meaningfully
help
our
disability
community
through
our
work
here
on
rip's
leon.
E
Thank
you,
sandra,
and
I'm
so
excited
to
be
here
with
you
this
evening,
to
talk
about
the
importance
of
people
with
intellectual
and
developmental
disabilities
and
law
enforcement
and
others
in
our
criminal
justice
system,
really
having
a
better
understanding
of
this
population..
Why
that's
so
important
and
I'm
not
sure
if
I'm
are
you,
are
you
all
going
to
forward
slides
or
do
I
need
to
share
my
screen??
I.
E
You
so
much
and
sandra
already
did
a
good
job
introducing
the
arc.,
I
think
most
of
you
are
probably
familiar
with
the
bit
of
the
united
states..
We
have
over
six
hundred
chapters
nationwide
and
our
mission
is
really
to
promote
and
protect
the
rights
of
people
with
intellectual
and
developmental
disabilities,
and
we
work
at
the
policy
program
and
legal
advocacy.
Level.
next
slide.
E
Broad
array
of
projects
ranging
from
supporting
crime,
victims
with
disabilities
to
offender
defendant
issues
as
well.
and
what
we're
doing
is
advocating
again
at
that
intersection
of
criminal
justice
reform,
while
at
the
same
time
advancing
disability,
rights.
and
we're
supporting
people
with
id
in
our
chapter
network
as
well.
To
lead
this
work.
next
slide.
E
This
is
just
a
little
bit
of
what
we
do.
as
I
said,
training
and
technical
assistance..
We
created,
what's
called
pathways
to
justice,
which
is
a
one
day:
training
that
focuses
on
training,
law
enforcement,
victims,
service
providers
and
attorneys,
and
we
create,
what's
called
the
disability
response
team
ahead
of
that
training
who
actually
contracts
with
us.
When
we
come
into
communities
to
talk
about
the
issues
specifically
on
intellectual
developmental
disabilities,,
we
know
that
there
is
training
available,
but
that
doesn't
go
more
in-depth
into
id
and
that's
what
this
training
hopes
to
do..
E
We
also
provide
nationwide
information
referral,
so
we
get
calls
from
attorneys
family,
members,
people
with
disabilities,
all
on
different
topics
related
to
intersection
with
the
criminal
justice
system..
We
provide
resources
and
we
attend
many
different
conferences
and
webinars
related
to
these
issues
and
has
them
as
well.
next
slide..
So
I.
E
E
E
Of
that
graphic
you'll
see
people
with
intellectual
disability
are
seven
times
more
likely
to
experience
sexual
assault
compared
to
those
without
disabilities..
So
we're
talking
about
a
significant
high
number
of
trauma
going
on
in
the
lives
of
people
with
intellectual
disability
and
thinking
about
how
that
impacts,
their
ability
to
get
supports
and
services
as
well
down
below.
E
If
you
look
at
barriers
to
justice,,
we
know
that
the
reports
of
victimization
are
often
not
believed.,
so
there's
credibility.
Issues
involved
because
of
disability
cases
may
go
unprosecuted,
especially
if
there's
any
type
of
communication,
differences
or
challenges,
and
then,
even
when
services
are
there,
they
might
be
inaccessible..
So,
looking
at
ada
accommodations
around
that
next
slide
and
on
the
other.
E
Hand
if
we're
looking
at
suspect,
defendant
issues
again
from
the
bureau
of
justice
statistics-
and
this
is
from
a
presidential
survey,
two
in
10
prison,,
two
in
10
prisoners
and
three
in
10
jail
inmates
reported
having
a
cognitive
disability
again,
the
most
commonly
reported
type
of
disability..
So
we
see
this
again
whether
victims
or
suspects,.
The
people
with
these
types
of
disabilities
are
overrepresented
in
the
system
and
when
we
look
at
barriers
to
justice
for
this
population,,
we
know
that
disability
often
goes
unrecognized
or
is
dismissed
as
irrelevant..
E
They
face
higher
rates
of
arrest,
conviction
and
longer
sentences
and
in
accessible
diversion
and
rehabilitation
programs..
So
accessibility
is
still
a
key
here
being
able
to
recognize
if
someone
may
have
the
disability-
and
these
are
the
kinds
of
things
that
we
try
to
address
in
the
trainings-
that
we
provide
next
flight..
Now
we.
E
The
george
ford
case
happened
our
national
center.
Our
criminal
justice
system
was
already
looking
very
closely
at
the
intersectionality
of
people
with
disabilities,
who
are
also
people
of
color
or
from
other
marginalized
groups.,
and
I
wanted
to
share
this
data
because
it
is
so
important
to
look
at
why
we've
got
to
be
looking
at
these
intersections
so
between
one
third
and
one.
E
White
paper
that
was
created
looking
at
different
media
accounts,
because
we
don't
have
the
hard
data
collected
in
our
country,
but
pulled
from
different
media
accounts,
showing
just
how
often
people
with
disabilities
are
being
shot
in
our
country..
Another
study
from
two
twenty
seventeen
from
the
american
journal
of
public
health
found
that
young
people
with
disabilities
were
13
percent,
more
likely
to
be
arrested
than
their
peers
without
disability..
E
But
when
you
look
at
black
youth
with
disability,,
that
figure
actually
jumped
to
17
percent,
and
then
people
with
disabilities
have
an
overall
forty,
three
percent
chance
of
arrest,
with
a
disproportionate
amount
falling
on
young
black
men.
and
one
project
that
we
worked
on
through
vera
institute
of
justice
found
that
in
their
literature
review
of
looking
at
the
population
of
people
with
intellectual
disability,,
there
is
a
huge
lack
of
data
around
this
issue..
E
E
E
E
One
of
the
things
that
we've
been
trying
to
kind
of
challenge
that
notion
a
little,
as
is
saying.
Maybe
we
should
think
about
this
as
crisis
prevention,
training
and
think
about
maybe
even
retitling
this,
so
that
we
can
really
focus
on
the
prevention
piece
of
this
and
it's
almost
kind
of
like
thinking
of
doing
a
paradigm
shift
so
that
we're
looking
really
putting
more
of
our
energy
time
resources
into
that
front
end
before
police
even
need
to
be
involved..
E
Feel
uncomfortable,
if
they
don't
understand,
what's
going
on.,
so
really
having
a
clear
definition
of
what
that
means,,
we
don't
want
to
create
further
false
assumptions
and
stereotypes
of
people
with
disabilities..
We
want
to
focus
on
building
relationships
first
and
then
thinking
about
what
the
crisis
response
would
be.
E
E
Share
a
story
of
a
family
that
at
a
publication
that
I
coedited
with
the
university
of
minnesota,
because
I
think
it
just
shows
so
specifically
what
so
many
families
are
facing
in
our
country,
and
this
is
from
shilled
of
brundidge
and
she
has
two
children
actually
with
autism,
and
one
of
him
is
his
name
is
daniel
and
she
says
here
that
daniel
wonders
he
runs
and
if
you
call
his
name,
he
doesn't
respond.
And
you
know
that's
cute
when
he's
two.
E
But
what
happens
when
he's
12
and
he
runs
in
someone's
house,
and
they
see
this
little
black
boy
running
in
their
house
and
he's
waving
his
hands
in
the
air
and
squealing
he's
going
to
get
shot..
So,
like
I
said,,
that's
the
kind
of
stuff
that
keeps
us
up
at
night..
That's
what
we
really
worry
about.!
So
thinking
about
this
from
the
perspective
of
black
families
and
then
adding
autism
or
adding
a
disability
onto
that,
and
the
fear
that
that
really
creates
and
ensuring
that
we're
bringing
that
understanding
to
the
table.
E
You
can
go
ahead
and
bring
the
next
three
up,
because
I
thank
you..
So
this
is
our
pathways
to
justice.
Training
that
I
mentioned
earlier
and,
as
I
said,,
the
first
step
in
our
training
is
to
create
a
disability
response.
Team.
you
have
to
have
on
that
team.
A
law
enforcement
officer,
victim
service,
provider,,
a
person
with
a
disability
attorney
and
a.
E
Also
attorneys
and
victim
advocates,
because
we
strongly
believe
it
takes
a
community
and
that
everyone
equally
needs
to
be
educated
on
these
issues.
and
then.
Lastly,
we
provide
ongoing
technical
assistance
after
an
action
plan
is
created
to
help
that
community
more
specifically
deal
with
issues
that
they
are
facing
when
it
comes
to
serving
this
population.
next
slide,
and
this.
E
Is
again
who's
made?
Who
is
in
the
disability
response
team.?
So
on
the
left?
There
you'll
see
criminal
justice
professionals,
which
include
those
three
key
buckets
of
individuals
and
then
on
the
right
side.
The
disability
disability
community,
which
includes
people
with
disabilities,
and
we
believe.
E
It's
very
important
to
involve
and
provide
leadership
opportunities
for
people
with
disabilities
to
be
involved
in
training,
efforts.
and
so
for
example,.
When
we
go
to
provide
a
training
in
every
disability
response
team,,
we
have
people
with
disabilities
who
are
speaking
into
all
of
these
issues,
who
are
part
of
the
action
plan,
who
provide
training
and
together.
E
We
all
work
on
this
issue
equally,
so
that
the
power
is
balanced,
and
I
think
that's
really
important
to
think
about
when
we
consider
providing
training
to
law
enforcement
or
others
is
to
ensure
that
it's
not
all
coming
from
one
side
of
the
equation,
but
that
we're
really
having
a
balanced
conversation
about
these
issues.
next
slide
and.
E
Just
quickly
wanted
to
show
this
is
our
pathways
to
justice
model..
I
don't
know
how
many
of
you
might
be
familiar
with
the
sequential
intercept
map
or
the
snow
map,,
but
that
is
what's
often
used
for
city
training
when
it
comes
to
mental
health
issues.,
and
so
we
took
that
and
are
using
this
model
to
say,
let's
look
at
the
same
kind
of
questions
as
we
go
through
the
criminal
justice
system.,
but
look
at
what
happens
if
someone
has
an
intellectual
disability..
E
So
that's
what
this
map
does
for
communities-
and
we
use
this
in
our
training
sessions
to
help
explain
what
are
the
different
accommodations
people
need.?
How
does
communication
need
to
be
changed
so
that
people
can
understand
each
other
and
and
what
supports
are
available
in
the
community
so
that
we
can
keep
people
from
cycling
in
and
out
of
the
criminal
justice
system.
next
slide,
and
we
also
are
doing.
E
Some
international
work
on
this
issue
too.
and
we're
looking
at.
How
do
we
build
solidarity
not
only
within
our
country,
but
in
other
countries
that
are
facing
these
issues.?
Is
there
a
way
that
we
can
create
a
shared
vision
around
this??
It's
important
that
we
do
have
common
language
as
like
I
said,
people
might
define
crisis
different
depending
on
who's.
E
Looking
at
a
certain
situation.,
how
do
we
provide
prevention,
centered
solutions
that
are
not
retributive
and
then
local,
state,,
national
and
international
solidarity,
solidarity?
Solidarity
is
so
important
to,
and
I'm
telling
you
I
don't
think.
I've
had
as
much
fun
as
being
involved
in
this
international
hub,
because
we're
learning
that
in
other
countries,
they're
facing
many
similar
situations
and
it's
interesting
to
hear-
what's
going
on,
say,
for
example,
in
the
uk
versus
israel
and
korea
and.
E
E
And
so
we
need
to
look
at
how
we
are
doing
that
and
often
we
do
work
in
silos
and
how
can
we
break
out
of
those
so
that
we
are
working
together
in
harmony
around
these
issues
and
reallocating
resources
to
community
based
supports.,
also
be
careful
of
replacing
one
system
such
as
policing
with
another
such
as
medical?
If
neither
is
sintering
the
community
first.,
so
one
system.
E
C
A
C
A
F
Pastor
for
deliverance
ministry
used
to
be
community
homeless
alliance
ministry
fifth
street
in
san
jose,
and
also
a
commissioner
for
the
housing
authority,
and
I
am
working
with
parents
helping
parents
lately,
and
we
just
had
a
meeting
that
very
closely
with
santa
wasn't
there
because
she
was
preparing
for
this.
But
it
closely
mirrors.
F
F
Police
getting
permission
to
speak,
perhaps
with
the
cicotte
police
psychologist
to
say
what
do
you
think
would
be
the
things
that
would
help
us,
to
help
them,
to
help
us?.
You
know
what
I
mean?,
because
they're
with
they're
the
ones
that
counsel
them
all
the
time..
They
know
what
the
fears
are..
They
know
what
the
ego
issues
are.
F
And
I
think
that
we
should
engage
somebody
that
that's
aware
of
that..
The
other
thing
is
thinking
about
protecting
ourselves
and
our
own
families
is
I
had
the
idea
of
getting
one
of
those
buttons
that
you
placed
around
the
neck
like
I've
fallen,
and
I
can't
get
up
an
agency.
That's
a
third
party
that
immediately
engages
with.
F
G
G
G
G
H
Arc
and
stuff
like
that
they're
talking
about,
like
I
didn't,
hear
anything
about
families
with
disabilities
learning
cognitive,,
whatever
disabilities
were
also
immigrant
families
who
are
afraid
of
the
police
because
they're
afraid
they're
going
to
get
deported.
right..
So
how
are
we,
including
that
population??
H
Because
I
know
we
have
a
lot
of
spanish
speaking
families,
mexican
families,,
a
lot
of
families
who
you
know,?
Don't
have,
you
know,
immigration
status
here
and
are
threatened
every
day
by
if
they
go
out
in
the
street
and
the
cop
sees
them,
they're
going
to
get
them
and
you
know,
there's
the
families
won't
ask
for
because
they're
afraid
somebody's
going
to
report
them..
So
how
do
we
include
that
population
into
these
data?
H
So
we
make
sure
we
reach
every
single
unpopular
nation
that
has
dealing
with
their
loved
ones,
who
have
disabilities,,
maybe
death
and
stuff
like
that,
because
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
families
who
do
have
people,
but
they
won't
be
included
because
they're
afraid
to
come
out
because
they'll
get
deported..
Thank.
A
I
I
C
C
I
I
A
J
J
J
I
I
are
we
being
very
intentional
about
looking
through
all
the
policies
that
are
recommending
and
the
work
that's
being
done
intentionally
intentional
called
out
disability
justice
lens
and
is
there
a
framework
we
should
also
be
adopting
in
all
of
this
word,
meaning
everything
that
comes
out
of
this
committee
should
probably
also
have
a
disability
justice
lens
and
continue
working
with
the
presenters
on
what
that
framework
framework
would
look
like..
I'm
also
really
interested
in
the
comment
that
was
made
around
other
carceral.
I
I
Also
serve
as
replacement
carceral
options.,
I'm
really
interested
in
exploring
this
topic
more
around
policing,
but
also
other
ways
that
government
functions
in
a
castle
way.,
for
example,
community..
So
I
don't
have
a
specific
policy
recommendation,
but
I
think
along
those
who
shouldn't
be
really
interested
in
looking
at
a
disability,
justice
framework
and
lens
that
we
can
apply
to
all
of
this
work
and
then
also
exploring
more
the
other
ways
that
our
community
is
policed,
using
city
funds..
Thank
you.
A
Darcy.
and
the
framework
is
definitely
something
for
this
committee..
Think
about
just
for
the
consideration
of
time.
I
will
ask
that
any
public
please
hold
until
the
toward
the
end
of
the
meeting.
When
we
have
time
of
public
comments,
could
we
still
have
a
few
agenda
items
that
still
need
to
be
considered?,
so
my
apologies.
A
K
D
K
K
Memorandum
whose
purpose
is
to
convey
to
the
council
and
committee
our
support
for
community
oversight
committee
to
be
added
to
the
city's
charter
through
the
work
of
the
charter
review.
Commission,
the
executive
summary
for
too
long,
the
san
jose
police
to
has
been
allowed
to
police
itself
without
the
benefit
of
accountability
from
the
community.
At
this
point,
much
of
the
community
believes
police
are
not
accountable
to
anyone
which
is
growing
trust
between
the
community
and
the
public
safety
apparatus..
K
We
believe
that
a
committee
such
as
the
one
that
is
being
proposed
should
not
only
advise
but
have
the
authority
to
investigate
individual
incidents
of
misconduct,
have
the
power
to
issue
disciplinary
measures
to
speak
meaningfully
to
the
policies
and
procedures
that
exist
within
the
current
policing
structures..
We
support
the
charter
commission
recommending
a
police
oversight
committee
whose
main
function
should
include,
but
not
be
limited
to
one
patterns
of
practice
to
use
of
force,
three
training
for
policies
and
practices,
five
promotions,
demotions,
hiring
and
firing
six.
K
Investigate
investigation,
function,
subpoena
power
and
ability
to
review
unredacted
records
in
order
to
ensure
this
committee
garners
the
public
trust,,
the
community
should
have
a
direct
input
on
who
serves
on
such
a
committee.
Give
you
special
consideration
to
your
needs,
most
impacted
by
police
violence..
This
will
avoid
government
officials,
elected
and
staff
from
injecting
politics
contrary
to
the
public's
interest.
So
this
is
from
the
subcommittee
a.
A
H
H
A
Just
want
to
say
that
we
have
time
for
further
debate
on
on
adding
things
to
the
letter
later.,
but
right
now
it
was
just
questions
for
about
whether
the
letter
itself,
if
you
have
a
suggestion
for
something
to
be
added
to
the
letter,,
we
could
discuss
that
in
the
discussion
portion..
My
apologies.,
I
should
have
clarified
that.,
but
we
have
a.
M
M
Work
on
surveillance
and
technology,
ordinance
ideas
and
the
idea
of
a
surveillance
technology
oversight
committee,
I
think,
could
be
a
very
important
addition
to
the
work
you
guys
are
doing..
Is
there
any
way
to
put
that
into,?
You
know,
your
police
oversight
measures
here,
or
is
that
going
to
be
for
another
committee
at
another
time
kind
of
thing??
I.
M
M
K
That
thank
you,
blair,
and
that
sounds
from
what
you're
saying
to
be:
maybe
something
that
is
located
under
invested
and
function,
and
this
isn't
structuring
how
this
oversight
will
work
or
be..
This
is
a
recommendation
to
the
charter
review
commission
that
they
include
these
functions
and
they
don't
limit
them..
So
these
are.
This
is
a
list,
a
minimum
list,
but
certainly
we
hope
they
include
more
than
yeah.
yeah,
sure.
yeah.
M
A
H
Ability
to
know
who
is
on
the
arbitration
committee,
so
we
know
how
these
cops
are
getting
their
jobs
back
after,
like
the
chief
of
police,
fire.,
and
so
these
arbitration
committees
are
very
important
as
to
how
we're
going
to
weed
out
the
bad
cops
if
the
chief
of
police
is
firing
guys
and
then
the
arbitration
committee
is
a
bunch
of
people,
we
don't
know
who
they
are
and
why
they
keep
on
pushing
these
bad
cops
back
on
our
streets,.
We
need
to
know
who
they
are
and
why
this
arbitration
committee
is
so
secret..
I
A
L
Letter
and
in
general
I
just
I
wanted
to
emphasize
that
I
really
appreciate
the
work
of
the
committee
on
this
to
help
develop
this..
This
is
a
this
obviously
we're
trying
to
engage
in
a
conversation
and
with
an
ongoing
conversation
with
the
charter
review
commission
to
create
an
ongoing
structure
that
will
be
able
to
take
on
a
number
of
things..
So
it's
to
kind
of
players
point
that
he
was
bringing
up
in
terms
of
policies
and
practices,
things
around
around
accountability
and
also
the
investigative
function
of
of
such
as
civilian
oversight
board
is.
L
These
are
reflective
of
what
you've
seen
in
a
wide
variety
of
different
types
of
of
tasks,
that
civilian
review
commissions
have
kind
of
taken
on.
and
I
think,
leaving
the
language
like
like,
as
has
been
amended,
but
also
making
sure
that
we
don't
get
too
specific
about
all
the
things
that
they
need
to
or
the
steps
they
need
to
take
but
saying
that
they
need
to
have
that
investigated.
L
L
The
point
or
the
spirit
of
what
I
think
I
was
hearing
from
you
know,
from
lori.,
but
I
mean
I
don't
want
to
put
words
in
your
mouth
sorry.,
but
I
think,
like
it's
all
aspects
of
it..
It's
it's
the
arbitration,
but
it's
like
when
something's
happened.
How
does
discipline
happen
and
those
types
of
things.?
So
if
there's
a
way
of
being
able
to
put
that
language
like
massaging
the
language,,
I
don't
know
if
that
could
go
back
to
to
the
committee
or
whatever
we
may
be
able
to
wordsmith
in
here..
L
But
I
think
the
spirit
of
what.
What
I'm
saying
in
terms
of
the
recommendation
is
that
there's
an
investigation,
function.,
there's
a
public
oversight
and-
and
you
know
and
daylighting
of
that
function-
would
be
really,
really
beneficial,
and
I
think
that's
work
like
that
that
involvement-
and
I
think
that
fits
in
with
what
we've
seen
in
the
public
commission
hearings
that
have
happened.
Both
the
charter
commission.
Looking
at
that
sorry
to
cut
you
off
because.
A
I
M
Really
quickly
about
the
police
arbitration
things.,
thank
you
for
wanting
to
cover
that.,
I'm
assuming
that's
pension
issues
also,
and
that
can
be
a
really
important
one
too,
and
how
to
address
the
future
of
policing
and
yeah.
The
recent
arbitration
over
the
past
year
we're
ending
up
having
this
current
inflation
process..
I
feel
so
good.
Looking
with
the
future
of
arbitration
judges.
thank
you.
A
A
A
D
A
A
A
A
A
A
J
J
J
J
J
A
M
M
M
To
have
oversight
with
that
is
an
incredibly
important
responsible
tool
for
ourselves,
for
our
future
community
and
our
lives..
It
really
takes
it,
takes
it
out
of
the
possession
of
government,
the
future
of
technology
and
the
national
security
state..
It
puts
it
into
our
hands..
That's
an
incredible
concept
to
consider
good
luck
with
those
efforts..
I
wanted
to
quickly
mention
the
subcommittee
process..
It
was
a.
M
Open
accessible
subcommittee
process
they're
trying
to
do
better
now,
I'm
sure
you
guys
have
made
some
good
steps
towards
that
direction..
I
think
the
goal
should
be
for
the
subcommittees
to
be
open
to
the
public
and
foley
accessible,
but
that
may
not
happen
and
if
it
doesn't,,
we
should
be
able
to
ask
for
records
of
the
of
the
subcommittee
subcommittees
that
can
or
should
be
available
to
the
public.
Soon
after
and
or.
M
M
M
G
G
G
F
F
We
noticed
it.
Fortunately,
I
have
have
a
good
support
system..
I
have
ways
of
you
know,,
I'm
a
minister..
I
talk
to
god
all
the
time,
so
I've
got
a
great
support
system.,
but
I
just
when
I
heard
her
speak
on
that
issue.
I
thought
yeah,.
It
just
recently
came
up
for
me
too..
So
these
things
are
very
important
and
and
must
they.
F
Have
to
be
dealt
with
if
we're
to
have
a
healthy
society?.
The
other
thing
was
not
everybody's
going
to
want
to
do
what
it
is
that
we
need
to
have
done,
and
so
the
other
thing,
unfortunately,
is
docking
people's
pay.
If
they
don't
do
something
correctly,
rest
assured,
if
their
pay
is
that
they'll
change,
so
they
have.
A
A
N
D
A
A
Too
into
detail,
but
they
talked
a
lot
about
what
we
are
talking
about
when
it
comes
to
building
alternative
systems
and
a
better
public
safety
systems..
I
just
want
to
say
that
I'm
going
to
be
dropping
the
link
for
their
resources,
that
they
have
shared
all
the
resources
that
we
shared
during
this
two
day
webinar.,
and
so,
if
there
is
something
that
interests
you
these
subcategories,,
I
would
encourage
you
to
go
and
take
a
look
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