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City of San José, California
Joint meeting of Rules and Open Government / Committee of the Whole of August 17, 2022
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A
A
A
A
A
B
All
right
good
afternoon,
everyone
welcome
to
the
joint
meeting
for
the
rules
and
open
government
committee
and
committee
of
the
whole.
If
we
can
have
a
roll
call,
please.
B
B
B
B
And
when
we
have
a
motion,
will
the
maker
of
the
motion
also
include
an
ad
sheet
so
we'll
now
go
to
the
public
for
public
comments.
D
Hi
blair
beekman
here,
thanks
for
the
meeting
today,
just
speak
to
item
2.8
about
master
consultant
agreements
for
professional
services
or
safety
professional
services.
It's
it's
an
agreement.
D
For
a
total
amount
of
over
540
000
for
adjustments
made
to
to
add
additional
200
000
to
its
normal
work,
I
just
wanted
to
comment
that
you
know
we
were
addressing
a
wide
range
of
consultant
services
in
san
jose.
At
this
time.
You
had
a
really
interesting
item
on
your
council
agenda
yesterday
on
just
consultant
agreements
that
could
take
place
like
I
said,
there's
a
wide
range
of
ways
that
we
we
need
consultants
in
the
future.
D
At
the
monday
study
session
on
gun
violence,
there
was
consultant
use
on
on
how
to
talk
about
gun,
violence
and
or
gun
prevention
techniques,
health
and
human
services,
techniques
that
will
be
involved
and
how
consultants
can
help
streamline
that
process
and
make
it
and
direct
it
well
and
bring
good
direction
to
it.
So,
just
an
overall
good
luck,
how
we
are
addressing
the
future
of
the
consultant
issue.
I
thought
it
brought
up
really
interesting
points
yesterday
you
know:
do
we
want
to
create
a
consultant
industry
in
san
jose?
D
It
has
benefits.
I
think
I
think
anything
to
benefit
the
future
of
full
community
participation
is
important
and
it's
just
a
matter.
Do
we
want
to
do
that
as
local
government
itself,
or
can
a
consulting
service
help
make
adjustments
for
that,
and
and
can
we
make
corrections
along
the
way
in
learning
that
sort
of
process?
D
So
I
think
those
are
some
ways
to
think
about
it,
and
I
was
really
impressed
with
the
item
yesterday
and
good
luck
with
the
consultant
service
issues.
Thank
you.
E
Comments
veered
to
the
left
to
right
of
someone's
opinion.
However,
what
blair
was
saying
right
now
was
significant.
The
number
one
the
combing
through
the
agenda
is
like
fast,
I'm
I
I
don't
I'm
sorry,
I
don't.
I
don't
speed,
read
I'm
not
the
evelyn
woodhead
speed
reading
course.
I
don't
so
my
apologies.
If
my
reading
skills
can't
like
go
through
it
that
quickly,
but
with
respect
to
consultants,
a
consultant
has
its
advantages
and
limitations,
they
can
remain,
there's
a
there's,
a
degree
of
objectivity
that
they
can
bring.
E
That
is
appreciated,
but
there's
also
a
degree
of
ignorance,
because
the
consultant
has
absolutely
no
clue
and
is
not
approaching
what
he
is
seeing
in
the
environment
and
then
connecting
that
to
a
generational
or
historical
injustice.
That's
not
his
role,
and
I
don't
blame
him
for
that.
I
do
not
hold
the
consultant
accountable
for
that.
E
I
hold
this
city
accountable
for
it
and
I
think
that
the
city
is
what
the
city
is
doing
is
using
the
consultant
so
that
that
topic
and
that
historical,
generational,
injustice
and
issue
does
not
come
to
the
full
because
there's
a
buffer-
and
you
know
I
because
I've
seen
it
too
many
times.
I
know
bureaucracies,
I've
dealt
with
them
all
my
life
and
what
bureaucracies
do
is
they
put
a
point
man
there
to
to
vacillate
between
the
bureaucracy
and
the
people,
the
people
that
are
most
affected
by
the
policy.
B
All
right,
we
knew
what
you
meant
tony
so
before
I
bring
it
back
to
my
colleagues
lee
I
gotta
ask
you
my
load
balancing
question.
B
So
is
this
agenda
been
reviewed
and
scrubbed
to
make
sure
that
we
have
load
balancing.
B
Thank
you
lee
all
right.
You
want
to
entertain
a
motion.
C
C
B
With
that
sheet,
so
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
and
again
and
council
member
problems
go
ahead.
F
Yeah
in
regards
to
your
load,
balancing
it
actually
looks
like
this
agenda
is
extremely
light
and
we
have
an
evening
session
set
to
start
at
six.
My
guess
is,
we
won't
make
it
to
six
or
even
close
to
that.
Are
these
particular
land
use
items,
something
that
have
to
be
heard
at
act
six
or
after
six
or
is
there
something
there
that
can
be
heard
sooner?
I
know
I
know
it
looks
like
the
consent
items
for
the
land
use
are
going
to
be
heard
during
the
day.
Is
that
correct.
C
That
is
correct,
so
I'm
looking
at
it
now
believe
all
land-use
items
will
be
heard
in
the
afternoon.
They've
been
re-noticed,
except
for
the
ones
that
were
dropped.
C
Yeah
we've
tried
to
leave
the
the
evening
session
alone
for
the
study
session.
I
will
say
even
with
hearing
land
use.
During
the
day,
the
council
has
a
very
good
chance
of
having
a
recess
between
the
afternoon
session
and
six
o'clock.
C
B
E
Thank
you,
paul
soto,
from
horseshoe
with
respect
to
police
auditor
issues
and
police.
E
Investigations
within
the
department-
those
are
two
separate
issues
and
what
the
mayor
has
consistently
done
is
put
two
seemingly
associated
issues
together
to
deprive
the
public
of
separate
public
comment,
and
so
what
I'm
asking
one
of
the
members
of
this
committee,
if
they
can
remember,
if
you
can,
please
keep
a
very
clear
distinction
and
here's
why
the
police
auditor's
office
was
created
in
order
to
create
an
independent
auditor
outside
of
the
bureaucracy
of
the
city.
Those
are
separate
issues.
E
Those
are
separate
issues,
so
the
police,
the
the
police
department,
comes
in.
They
can
give
their
audit.
I
I'd
welcome
it.
I
welcome
the
police
department's
internal
affairs,
come
in
and
tell
me
what's
going
on
in
their
department
in
investigating
dirty
cops.
That's
fine,
but
the
police,
independent
auditor
is
the
representative,
the
representative
of
the
people,
so
there's
a
very
clear
distinction
there,
and
I
would
like
the
distinction
made
within
the
context
of
this
meeting.
E
That's
all
it's
very
simple,
because
what
happens
is
that
the
mayor,
just
like
real
nonchalantly
and
casually
no
we'll
just
put
them
together
and
they
are
very
separate,
and
so
if,
if,
if
I'm
wrong-
and
there
is
no
real
distinction
between
the
two
then
correct
me-
I
will
stand
corrected.
I
don't
mind
being
in
fact
I
welcome
being
corrected,
but
if
I'm
not-
and
they
are
distinct
departments,
that
one
is
the
part
of
the
bureaucracy
and
one
is
a
part
of
the
people.
D
Wherever
here
just
a
reminder
that
I
guess
this
is
an
august
30th
council
meeting
on
august
30th
is
the
independent
police
auditor
and
the
san
jose
police
department,
internal
affairs
report-
it's
been
moved
to
that
date,
hopefully
that
that
is,
will
be
august
30th
just
to
mention,
so
everyone
can
be
there
item
6.11.
D
You
have
geothermal
agreements
for
energy
power,
community
energy
use.
I
guess
interesting,
thank
you
that
we're
talking
about
geothermal.
I
hope
that
sounds.
They
can
make
clear
what
they
are,
why
they
are
so
much
against
hydropower,
especially
from
northern
regions,
or
I
would
like
to
better
learn
what
that
fear
is
and
why
you
choose
nuclear
over
hydropower
from
the
north.
I
can
understand
that
from
mexico
and
and
central
america
hydropower
being
a
question,
but
from
the
north
it
should
be,
I
think,
possibly
more
used.
D
I
hope
that
can
be
an
interesting
conversation.
What
else
is
there?
Oh,
your
land
use
items.
Oh
yeah!
You
also
have
something
about
water
issues
and
reports
of
water
quality.
D
I
hope
this
can
be
a
time
to
bend
to
feel
free
and
safe
that
we
can
be
open
to
talk
about
what
where
the
water
table
is
at
in
the
bay
area,
and
we
can
talk
about
sea
level
rise
honestly
and
openly
and
not
be
afraid,
and
it
doesn't
have
to
be
alarmist,
but
just
give
the
facts
of
where
we're
at
with
sea
level
rise
in
the
bay
area.
At
this
time,
land
use
items
good
luck:
how
to
talk
about
urban
villages
in
terms
of
very
low,
extremely
low
income
and
mixed.
C
D
Ideas
and
finally,
with
the
equity
roundtable
issues,
maybe
I'll
talk
I'll
save
that
for
public
comment
time
just
I
hope
that
yeah,
if
it's
okay,
I'd
like
to
say
that
for
public
common
time,
if
that's
okay
today,
thank
you.
G
Okay,
thank
you
yeah,
I'd
like
to
you
know.
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
it.
Thank
you,
I'm
sorry
about
that.
I'm
trying
to
do
three
things
at
once.
I
I
just
clicked
on
you
know.
I
I
think
that
auditor's
report
I
had
a
chance
to
glance
at.
I
didn't
read
at
all
it
that
should
take
a
lot
of
time.
There
should
be
a
pause
and
think
about
it,
because
there's
situations
that
you
know
there's
obviously
miscommunication,
because
what
was
in
the
spotlight
is
quite
a
bit
different
than
what
was
in
the
mayor's.
G
So
it's
really
clear
to
us
what
the
position
of
the
auditor
is,
what
the
timeline
is
solving
any
issues
and
if
that
helps
morale
for
the
police
too,
this
isn't
just
like.
Let's
beat
up
on
the
police,
it's
let's
not
beat
up
on
anybody.
You
know
I
made
a
figurative
sense.
I'm
sorry!
I
could
think
of
a
better
phrase,
because
it
I
mean
I
looked
at
last
night
liz
cheney's
concession
speech.
G
If
she's
willing
to
do
that,
we
should
be
willing
to
just
try
to
reach
across
that
quote-unquote
aisle
and
really
be
very
clear
because
we
really
are
in
it
together
like
it
or
not,
we're
all
on
the
same
planet.
I
know
it
doesn't
sound
like
a
big
deal,
but
the
police
auditor's
report
drives
how
the
city
interacts
with
police
and
being
a
policeman
is
extremely
hard
and
things
change
extremely
fast
and
you're.
Making
split
decisions
within
seconds
so
representative.
G
A
B
Thank
you.
Well,
I
just
said
it
was
brilliant
and
you
guys
missed
it.
So
we
have
a
motion
and
tell
you
a
second.
C
B
All
right
and
lee
I'll
spare
you
the
load,
balancing
question
on
this
agenda
until
next
week.
B
All
right,
tony.
B
B
Okay,
next
is
the
consent,
calendar
and
we'll
go
right
to
the
public.
C
D
All
right,
thank
you
to
speak
on
the
approval
of
ukrainian
independence
day,
flag,
raising
ceremony.
I
think,
to
begin
just
a
thank
you
so
much
to
the
words
of
what
brian
darby
just
offered.
You
know
how
do
we
find
a
middle
at
this
time
in
this
country
where,
where
is
the
middle
and
what
could
be
our
agreements
together
that
we
we
work
towards
and
agree
upon
and
and
heal?
D
You
know
our
the
past
presidential
administration
and
move
forward
together,
I'm
interested
in
ways
of
doing
that,
and
so
thanks
a
lot
for
brian
darby's
words.
It's
with
that
said.
How
can
we
really
address
how
to
heal
the
situation
the
ukraine
area?
D
I
I've
been
trying
to
say
weekly
now
that
you
know
all
sides
I
feel,
can
really
really
work
towards
like
agreements
of
peace
and
and
there's
openings,
to
really
do
that
at
this
time
that
I
just,
I
hope
all
sides
want
to
take
advantage
of
this
time
and
not
head
into
the
fall
and
winter
where
life
will
get
cold.
Our
decision
making
will
get
colder,
and
you
know
things
in
this
com,
country,
opportunities
and
ideas.
Just
simply
won't
happen
because
we're
so
focused
on
coldness
and
shrillness
of
war
and
it's
violence.
D
Instead
of
you
know,
working
out
our
differences,
it's
a
peace
table.
I
mean
there's
so
many
options
available
of
ukraine
working
in
working
with
europe,
again,
possibly
russia,
giving
up
parts
of
georgia.
I've
heard
in
the
past.
You
know
there's
a
whole
negotiation
process
that
can
allow
choices
and
that's
where
bravado
and
and
and
grit
need
to
take
place
instead
of
on
the
battlefield.
D
E
Yes,
paul
from
the
horseshoe,
I
think
we've
lost
kind
of
site
and
I'm
speaking
on
the
consent,
calendar
item
with
respect
to
arrestees
and
the
city's
policy
on.
That
is
that
you
don't
have
any
kind
of
racial
equity
analysis
on
the
racial
disparity
in
the
types
of.
B
All
right,
second,
okay,
it's
been
moving
second
hit,
councilmember
davis.
C
Thanks,
I
just
have
a
clarifying
question.
Just
wanna
make
sure
I
understand
the
santa
clara
county
of
santa
clara
and
city
of
san
jose
joint
meeting
is
just
for
the
committee
members
right,
it's
not
and,
and
a
committee
of
the
whole,
the
that
is
correct.
It
is
just
for
the
county
committee
and
the
city
committee
is
currently
structured.
D
Hi
blair
we've
been
here.
I've
worked
on
a
speech
for
a
couple
days
hope
it
goes
well
here
to
be
clear
for
months.
Oh
hold
on
I'm
now
starting
thrawn's
place
space.
Two
better
speak
to
my
public
comments
of
the
past
few
days
on
the
counter,
address,
gun
issues
and
sounds
to
be
clear.
For
months
now,
I've
been
trying
to
offer
a
public
comment
time
that
people
who
are
somewhat
upset
at
the
new
san
jose
gun
fees
can
direct
their
anger
and
energy
towards
better
public
oversight.
D
You
know
to
address
our
issues
as
a
whole
community
process,
and
it's,
I
think,
it's
a
really
interesting
time.
We
can
do
that
here
in
san
jose,
because
it
is
good
ideas.
I
think
it
just
we
need
to
how
do
we
bring
that
around?
So
we
all
can
understand
that
and
and
have
different
parts
working
towards
things
for
the
good
of
the
community.
So
good
luck
in
these
efforts
and
I
wanted
to
quickly
offer
about
the
equity
roundtable
issues.
D
You
know
we
really
made
an
effort
to
to
the
picture
of
the
commission
process
to
have
you
know,
homeless,
representatives
and
and
and
mobility
representatives
on
the
committees
on
the
commission,
and
I
I
just
hope
that
can
be
respected
now.
Maybe
we
can
start
working
towards
those
ways
now
and
that
can
be
clear
for
all
of
us
as
we
wait
for
the
equity
round
table
and
it's
good
work,
it
can
do.
G
G
G
G
There
are
people
I
know
personally,
who
I've
talked
with,
who
think
the
earth
is
flat
it
when
it
was
just
out
in
the
wizard
land
it
didn't
matter,
but
now
people
have
the
power,
or
at
least
some
power
to
set
policy
by
that
the
worst
most
dangerous
situation
facing
us.
As
a
species
is
magic
thinking,
it
doesn't
work,
it
never
has
work,
it
can't
work.
Data
and
policies
are
long-term,
they
should
be
thought
of
in
generational
issues.
G
E
A
couple
of
days
later
I
walked
to
peter
allen's
house,
not
knowing
that
it
was
his
home.
I
went
and
I
knocked
on
the
door
because
he
had
a
sign
outside
that
said,
vote
for
roberalis
knocked
on
his
door.
I
asked
him
for
a
conversation.
He
said.
Yes,
we
spoke
for
a
happiness,
hello,
hello,.
B
E
I
will
accept
your
check
vice
man,
I
accept
your
check.
What
I'd
like
to
talk
about
is
arrests
and
the
power
of
the
state
to
conduct
an
arrest
on
a
human
being.
E
E
That
is
where
you
want
me,
because
you
keep
filing
police
reports
that
will
put
me
there.
Okay
they're
filed
by
we
all
know
who
I'm
not
gonna,
say
it,
because
by
saying
name
that
can
get
me
arrested
and
put
in
a
cell.
That's
how
petty
this
committee
is
it's
how
petty
this
city
is
and
you're
not
going
to
get
it
back
to
the
committee.