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City of San José, California
Joint meeting of Rules and Open Government / Committee of the Whole of April 27, 2022
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A
A
A
A
A
B
B
B
B
B
B
All
right
I'll
bring
come
back
to
the
committee
and
just
so
that
the
committee
members
know
I
already
had
a
conversation
with
lee
about
load
balancing
on
the
agenda,
so
he
promised
me
that
it's
going
to
be
easy
selling
from
now
to
the
end
of
june.
So
just
so
you
know
I'm
looking
out
for
you
councilman
we're
calling.
C
Make
me
laugh:
okay,
just
a
quick
question
for
on
the
agenda.
The
the
land
use
items
are
time
certain
after
six
automatically.
Is
this
an
evening
session,
specifically
on
the
land
use.
C
A
B
B
B
A
B
Okay
on
to
the
consent,
calendar
go
to
the
public
first:
are
there
any
members
of
the
public
who
would
like
to
speak
on
consent.
C
B
Second,
all
right
has
been
moving.
Second,
it
tony
arenas.
B
F
F
F
F
Remember
speed
the
three
cameras
you
guys
lobbied
for
more
traffic
cops
and
how
about
license
plate
readers?
No,
you
need
what
they
call
boots
on
the
ground,
trying
to
enforce
laws
that
are
real
crimes.
It's
not
about
infractions
which
traffic
tickets
are.
I
think
you
need
to
get
that
through
your
six
schools.
Traffic
tickets.
Don't
reduce
crime,
it's
a
revenueing
tool
and
you
know
what
else
it
is.
F
It
gives
you
brownie
points
to
say
that
your
guys
are
solving
crime
when
you
have
the
conviction
of
a
ticket
which
is
a
hundred
percent
of
the
time.
Typically.
So
so,
why?
Don't
you
guys,
put
your
collective
heads
together
and
start
thinking
about
real
law
enforcement
versus
going
after
revenue
and
giving
people
tickets
going
10
miles
over
the
speed
limit?
Because
that's
what
it
is.
A
E
Good
afternoon,
chair
jones
vice
chair
perales
and
members
of
the
rules
committee,
my
name
is
auden
leung
and
I'm
here
representing
santa
clara
county
board.
Vice
president
susan
ellenberg's
office.
Unfortunately,
her
schedule
precluded
her
from
being
here
personally
with
us
today,
but
we
wanted
to
inform
the
rules
committee
that
supervisor
ellenberg
in
her
capacity
is
chair
of
the
county's
public
safety
and
justice
policy
committee
and
council
member
raul
perales.
In
his
capacity
as
chair
of
san
jose's,
public
safety,
finance
and
strategic
support
policy
committee
have
been
in
discussions
together
to
coordinate
and
plan.
E
A
joint
city
and
county
meeting
around
this
topic
is
how
can
we
partner
more
closely
in
ensuring
public
safety
for
our
residents?
As
you
know,
the
city
controls
the
primary
response
mechanism
to
public
safety
issues,
which
is
the
police
department
and
the
county
has
access
to
treatment.
Services
such
as
behavioral
health
and
substance
use
treatment,
programs
that
can
help
prevent
public
safety
issues.
We're
grateful
for
the
ongoing
collaboration
between
these
groups
and
we're
looking
forward
to
further
discussions
on
how
we
can
strengthen
an
appropriately
aligned
response
framework
for
our
residents
together.
G
Hi
thanks
you're
going
you're
addressing
amphetamine
use
in
this
item
which
we're
doing
a
bit
more
than
we
used
to
a
few
years
ago.
Boy,
good
luck,
we're
tackling
big
subjects
here
and
I
think
you're
trying
to
offer
a
few
ideas
how
to
be
pro.
I
don't
know
what
the
word
is,
but
just
to
be
more
what
can
be
counseling
services
and
and
and
there
isn't
a
big
huge
super
emphasis
on
technology
which
is
kind
of
nice
in
some
ways.
G
For
this
item
I
mean-
because
I
I
you
know-
this
is
stuff
that
stems
from
you-
know
the
big
to
do
back
in
the
past
november
that
you
know
all
of
the
bay
area
said
it's
time
we
get
tough
on
crime
now,
and
this
is
a
bit
more
nuanced
than
just
let's
dump
in
a
ton
of
new
technology,
let's
bring
in
a
ton
of
new
law
enforcement
you're
offering
a
bit
a
different
system.
G
So,
thank
you
for
that
at
least,
and
the
counseling
is
always
important
and
as
with
a
public
record
item
today
about
the
gun
issues,
you
know
we're
trying
to
find
solutions
that
address
the
community
itself
and,
and
that's
always
the
key
is
how
how
can
we
address
our
community
issues
to
you
know:
lessen
the
future
of
meth
use
overall
and
and
and
and
and
the
like,
so
good
luck
in
these
efforts.
G
You
know
it
wasn't
mentioned.
As
always,
these
are
difficult
subject
matter.
What
how
do
we
talk
about
the
future
of
fentanyl
and
and
what
do
we
do
about
that
situation?
I
think
in
the
very
least,
we
all
need
to
understand
that
it's
a
really
dangerous
substance
and
when
it's
produced
it
should
be
sold
in
really
tiny
small
amounts,
and
we
have
to
get
that
through
to
everyone
be
very
cautious
with
these
things.
Thank
you.
A
Tyler
haskell
good
afternoon,
mr
chair
and
members
of
the
committee
on
tyler
haskell
from
santa
clara
family
health
plan.
Here
we
wanted
to
just
mention
that
we
submitted
a
letter.
Hopefully
that
reached
you
all
through
the
public
comment
process.
We
were
included
in
the
memo
appreciate
being
mentioned
and
are
eager
to
help
out
and
find
find
solutions.
A
Our
letter
is
intended
to
kind
of
clarify
our
role
within
the
medical
system
and
how
we
may
be
able
to
contribute,
and
I
won't
recite
the
letter
and
its
points,
but
just
wanted
to.
Let
you
all
know
that
I'm
here
to
answer
any
questions
about
it
or
engage
in
dialogue.
If
you,
if
you
want
to
thanks
back
to
the
committee.
B
Thank
you,
councilmember
perales,
I'm
sorry
before
I
go
to
councilman
braless.
I
see
the
mayor's
here
mayor.
Would
you
like
to
speak
to
your
memo.
H
Thank
you
thanks
mary
appreciate
that
yeah
just
maybe,
if
I
just
offer
a
quick
overview,
I
I
think
we
all
recognize.
We
have
a
challenge
of
crime
in
our
city
as
every
big
city
does,
but
particularly
the
the
issue
of
rising
violent
crime.
H
As
a
deep
concern
to
me-
and
I
know
many
in
our
in
our
community
as
we
see
the
data
over
the
last
couple
of
years-
and
I
think
we
all
know-
the
sources
of
of
crime
in
the
problem
are
very
complex
and
they're
not
susceptible
to
to
bumper
sticker
solutions
and
we've
all
been
working
on
a
lot
of
important
ways
to
address
crime
in
our
communities,
including
project
hope
and
jobs,
programs
of
various
kinds,
all
invested
in
mayor's
game
convention
task
force,
initiatives
and
all
the
great
nonprofits
and
faith-based
communities
that
we're
working
with
through
that
effort,
and
obviously
the
council's
been
a
strong
proponent
of
adding
police
officers.
H
We've
added
more
than
200
to
our
department
in
recent
years,
and
just
recently
through
the
march
message,
we
approved
adding
more
and
that's
that's
a
good
thing
and
we
need
we
need
all
those
things.
We
need
a
multivariate
approach,
we
need
a
lot
more
prevention,
we
need
intervention
and,
yes,
we
do
need
enforcement.
H
The
challenge
is
that
we're
seeing
rising
violent
crime,
even
as
we're
adding
officers
and
as
we're
adding
resources
to
many
of
these
programs,
like
jobs,
programs
and
expanding
project,
hope,
and
so
either
took
an
effort
with
partners
to
try
to
understand
what
exactly
is
going
on.
What
here
locally?
We
know
this
is
a
national
trend,
we're
seeing
in
big
city,
so
we're
certainly
not
alone
in
this
and
and
obviously
that
means
there
are
larger
factors
here,
undoubtedly
relating
to
mental
health
and
a
lot
of
issues
relating
to
the
pandemic.
H
But
locally
we
are
seeing
two
basic
phenomena,
which
is
one
is
a
significant
depopulation
of
the
gel
that
is
resulting
in
a
an
escalated
level
of
people
who
are
being
released
and
being
released
without
having
drug
treatment.
Programs
they're
inpatient
that'll
actually
provide
sufficient
treatment,
particularly
for
stimulants
methamphetamine,
a
a
challenge
with
those
individuals
who
are
not
showing
up
for
court
and
then
relating
to
that
whole
issue
of
what
I
call
the
revolving
door
at
the
jail
is
a
lack
of
methamphetamine
addiction
treatment.
H
So
that's
where
this
set
of
proposals
is
primarily
targeted.
I
know
this
is
complex
and
there
are
many
facets
and
I
hope
we
have
an
opportunity
to
have
some
dialogue
about
the
individual
elements,
because
I
know
that
there
are
some
nuances.
H
We've
been
obviously
in
this
conversation
with
city
staff
now
and
among
many
other
partners
for
several
months,
and
I
think,
we've
gotten
to
a
place
where
clearly
our
office,
my
my
team
will
take
on
a
significant
amount
of
work,
particularly
around
applying
for
state
funding
for
drug
treatment
facility
and
the
infrastructure
that
we
need
for
that,
and
particularly
given
our
challenges
around
getting
home
key
money
for
unhoused
prod
for
projects
that
will
house
our
own
house
residents.
H
So
so
we're
really
more
than
willing
to
take
on
that
kind
of
work.
We
know
that
housing
is
staff
is,
is
really
overwhelmed
with
all
the
all
the
work
they've
got
already.
We
indicate
we're
happy
to
take
it
on
with
their
support,
providing
some
supportive
data.
H
One
is
better
advocating
with
judges
to
keep
serious
and
violent
offenders
in
jail,
and
that
consists
of
providing
data
and
information
through
bail,
affidavits
and
also
providing
data
that
can
support,
advocacy,
the
d.a
and
police
with
the
judges
about
who
is
being
released
and
how
they're
doing
out
there
and
then,
secondly,
where
arrestees
are
released,
pretrial
and
appropriately.
So
we
want
to
ensure
they
have
drug
treatment
and
the
services
they
need,
and
that's
really
relates
to
the
effort.
I
just
mentioned
around
our
efforts
to
apply
for
funding
through
the
state.
H
I
know
that
there
are
some
concerns
expressed
by
a
sinclair
family
health
plan.
We've
been
in
conversation
with
them.
We
certainly
don't
expect
them
to
provide
drug
treatment
services.
We
know
that's
not
what
they
do.
So
we're
very
well
informed
about
that,
but
at
the
extent
that
they
have
members,
then
those
members
who
may
be
unhoused
or
may
need
housing
through
this
program
would
then
be
eligible
to
enhance
care
management
which
would
then
link
them
to
substance,
abuse,
treatment
and
primary
care
and
mental
health
services.
H
The
third
bucket
of
sort
of
solutions
is
really
where
we
know
folks
are
failing
to
appear.
We
need
to
rearrest
them,
particularly
if
they
are
individuals
charged
with
serious
or
violent
felonies,
and
I
I
am
receipt
of
the
letter
from
the
public
defender,
great
respect
for
molly
o'neil,
she's,
actually
pumped
public
defender,
but
obviously
I
know
pope
defender
has
a
perspective
and-
and
I
fully
expect-
I
think
it's
important
to
note
the
suggestion
that
somehow
another
we
started
cited
pre-trial
release.
Statistics
is
misleading.
H
The
very
statistics
she
cites
is
exactly
what
I
put
in
the
footnote,
which
is
easily
explained.
The
data
we're
relying
on
is
data.
H
The
county
is
publishing
publicly,
and
so,
if
there
are
problems
with
the
data,
it's
with
the
county,
that
is
their
data
and
what
the
data
shows
is
almost
half
a
pretrial
who
are
released
are
either
failing
to
appear
or
they're
committing
new
crimes
and
that's
a
problem,
particularly
if
those
individuals
do
have
some
serious
and
violent
offense,
and
we
are
particularly
concerned
about
their
proclivity
to
reoffend,
and
so
the
council
has
already
approved
funding
through
the
march
message
to
help
to
supplement
some
of
that.
H
We
want
to
keep
data
about
what
we're
doing
what
we're
spending
so
that
everyone
is
very
clear
about
what
the
cost
is
and
where
the
cost
should
be
born
around
some
of
these
decisions
and
then
finally,
the
last
element
really
relates
to
reducing
thefts
and
burglaries
or
small
businesses.
H
That's
the
issue
relating
to
the
data
portal
and
ensuring
we
have
affidavits
I'll
know
with
regard
to
affidavits.
I
know
our
police
don't
have
concerns
about
using
non-sworn
staffing,
that's
perfectly
fine.
We
don't
have
to
use
non-sworn
staffing,
it
felt
affidavits.
We
can
certainly
have
police
officers.
Do
that
neither
case
the
funding
is
the
same
one
way
or
another.
You
need
to
pay
folks,
often
on
overtime,
to
do
the
work,
and
so,
however,
they
deem
the
work
is
best
done.
H
It's
done,
but
one
way
or
another
we're
going
to
need
affidavits
to
be
filled
out
for
either
high
bail
requests
or
detention
requests
or
for
warrants.
If
in
fact
it
it's
a
situation
where
a
person
needs
to
be
arrested.
So
these
are
really
a
set
of
incomplete
solutions
and
they're
incomplete
because
we
are
a
very
small
part
of
the
criminal
justice
system.
H
The
city
has
control
essentially
over
some
prevention
programs
that
we
all
advocate
for
and
support
and
the
police,
and
that's
really
important
we're
going
to
keep
doing
everything
we
can
do
on
our
end,
but
we
also
have
to
get
engaged
in
these
other
parts
of
the
system
because,
as
a
whole,
the
system
is
not
succeeding.
Right
now,
we
have
to
be
honest
about
those
failures
and
the
failures
are
laid
out
very
clearly.
H
If
you
look
at
pages
five
and
six
in
the
memorandum
with
just
some
of
the
more
egregious
examples
of
very
serious
charges,
people
are
being
released
after
homicide
and
child
molestation
charges.
H
In
some
cases,
without
bail,
we're
seeing
people
who
are
being
released,
who
clearly
have
a
history
of
violent
crime
and
then
reoffending
in
horrible
ways.
We
know
we
can
do
better.
We've
got
to
work
together
to
do
it
and
I'm
hoping
that
this
can
be
a
first
step.
We
want
to
have
more
formal
conversations,
certainly,
but
we
hope
that
at
least
we
can
get
rolling
by
having
city
staff
engage
with
us
at
the
table.
B
D
B
Great
thank
you
now.
Councilmember
problems
go
ahead.
I
Yeah,
thank
you
very
much
vice
mayor
and
appreciate
lee
the
the
the
staff
response
on
this.
I
know
that
we
wanted
to
buy
some
more
time
because
there
was
a
lot
of
meat
in
this
memo
initially
and,
as
was
was
stated
in
the
memo,
the
majority
of
it
is
is
really
work
that
is
happening
outside
of
the
the
city's
jurisdiction
and
so
in
an
attempt
to
try-
and
I
think,
address
some
of
these
issues
and
finding
where
we
as
a
city
can
augment
them.
You
know
drilling
down
what's
possible.
I
I
I
will
say,
though
I
am
concerned
with
a
number
of
what
is
presented
as
a
a
greenlit
item,
because
I
I
don't
know
if
we've
had
the
necessary
conversations
to
be
able
to
determine
if
that's
the
direction
that
we
would
like
to
go.
I
know
it's
the
direction
in
the
the
memo
from
the
mayor
and
two
of
our
colleagues,
but
I
still
think
there's
a
lot
of
meat
here
to
be
able
to
discuss
before
we
simply
issue
a
green,
lit
direction
and
say
yeah.
This
is
the
path
that
we
want
to
go
down.
I
I
recognize
some
of
this
is
going
to
require
some
budget
approval
and
I
think
you
know
those
items
can
can
come
up
in
the
budget
and
we
can
discuss
some
of
those
if,
if
you
know
if
the
council
is
interested
but
there's
others
that
are
more
advocacy
based
and
and
some
work
that
we'd
like
to
maybe
see
our
police
department
do,
I
think
even
the
the
data
gathering
clearly
not
a
maybe
a
contentious
issue,
but
it
could
be
as
we've
seen
today
in
the
letters
that
we've
gotten
back,
as
the
mayor
pointed
out
from
the
public
defender
in
other
responses
that
we've
heard
from
the
individuals
in
the
organizations
that
are
actually
in
charge
right
of
a
lot
of
of
what
is
being
asked
to
or
what
is
being
critiqued
here.
I
And
so
I
do
think
that
that
even
that
in
and
of
itself
even
some
of
the
data
would
warrant
a
more
detailed
conversation,
and
I
took
the
time
as
well
after
last
week's
rules
meeting
to
dive
a
little
deeper
into
this
and
then
and
then
have
subsequently
read
the
responses
from
others
in
our
our
community.
As
this
has
spurred
up
quite
the
reaction
and
that's
why
I
actually
connected
with
supervisor
ellenberg.
I
This
involves
a
lot
of
other
entities
and
jurisdictions,
and
it
would
be
nice
to
to
work
together
versus
the
city,
have
a
siloed
conversation
here
on
critiques
and
then
potential
recommendations
that
maybe
we
we
discussed
some
of
these
things,
because
we
not
may
we
may
not
know
all
the
info,
and
so
my
conversation
with
supervisor
ellenberg
since
she
chairs
their
public
safety
committee,
and
I
chair-
ours
was
like
we
have
done
in
many
occasions
and
council
member
adenas
is
really
led.
I
The
way
on
that
that
we
could
collaborate
on
a
joint
hearing
to
actually
have
some
of
these
conversations
with
the
relevant
stakeholders
being
a
part
of
it
versus
kind
of.
I
think,
the
path
that
we're
we're
going
down
here,
and
so
she
agreed
and
she
said
she
would
be
more
than
willing
to
do
so.
I
My
recommendation
today
would
be
that
we
actually
take
the
entirety
of
this
memo
here
and,
besides
maybe
the
items
that,
if
the
mayor
wanted
to
bring
him
up
subsequently
through
the
budget
process
or
if
council,
member
mayhem
or
carrasco
wanted
to
do
so
in
a
budget
document,
I
think
that
can
have
its
own
path,
but
otherwise
the
entirety
of
the
memo.
I
I
would
like
to
see
that
we
refer
it
to
phys
our
public
safety,
finance
and
strategic
support
committee,
which
I
chair,
and
that,
as
you've
heard
today
from
supervisor
elmer's
office,
we
are
already
in
agreement
and
and
we
will
work
to
collaborate,
a
a
joint
hearing,
and
that
will
be
my
recommendation.
B
So
we
have
a
motion
I'll.
I
Was
that
was
yeah,
okay
and
I'm
through?
Thank
you
all
right,
councilmember.
C
Cohen
yeah
thanks.
I
I
don't
know
that
I
need
to
add
a
lot
more
to
council
member
paralysis.
Comments.
I
mean
there's
a
lot
to
unpack
in
this
memo
and
a
lot
of
which
is
kind
of
responsive
to
various
jurisdictions,
whether
it
be
the
district
attorney
or
the
county
or
sheriff's
office.
There's
a
lot
of
different
and
and
the
judicial
system
right,
there's
a
lot
of
different
pieces
here
that
it's
not
clear
to
me
that
we
are.
C
We
have
enough
information
to
be
able
to
say
whether
the
specific
recommendations
are
the
right
ones
or
whether
you
know
this
is
the.
This
is
the
appropriate
path
to
take
at
this
time
before
we
have
that
joint
hearing.
You
know
I've
had
conversations
regularly
over
the
past
year
with
members
of
the
board
of
supervisors
about
how
we
address
our
mental
health
issues
on
the
streets.
How
we
deal
with
drug
addiction,
what
we
do
for
people
who
need
extra
service.
C
I
was
really
pleased
that
you
know,
after
some
of
those
conversations,
the
county
moved
forward
yesterday
on
one
part
of
the
solution,
adding
I
forget
the
number
of
beds
but
enough
to
treat
700
people
through
their
drug
treatment
program
this
year,
which
will
add
a
lot
of
capacity,
and
so
I
mean
I
think,
that
that
collaborative
approach
of
having
of
reaching
out
and
finding
out
how
we
can
work
together
and
how
we
can
support
the
things
that
they're
doing
as
a
county
is
the
productive
way
to
to
approach
these
kinds
of
challenges
that
we
have
to
face
collectively.
C
So
I
do
support
the
idea
of
having
that
joint
hearing
talking
about
these
various
elements,
finding
out
what
what
people
all
agree
should
the
city
should
be
focused
on
and
what
people
agree
the
county
should
be
focused
on.
I
don't
prefer
the
approach
of
kind
of
sending
a
message
to
the
county
of
telling
them
what
we
want
them
to
do,
as
opposed
to
trying
to
do
it
collaboratively
so
I'll,
be
supporting
the
motion.
Thank
you.
J
Thank
you.
I
first
of
all
I
want
to
thank
the
mayor
for
his
work
and
leadership
on
this
important
issue.
I
certainly
obviously
am
supportive
of
improving
our
our
primary
responsibility,
which
is
public
safety.
So
thank
you
mayor
for
that.
J
I
did
have
one
one
question
for
you
and
I
see
you
have
your
hand
up
mirror,
so
you
can
answer
it
after
my
remarks
if
you
want,
but
I
guess
I
didn't
really
understand
the
purpose
of
the
city
getting
into
the
business
of
doing
drug
treatment
when
the
county
has
that
responsibility
for
all
social
services
and
funding
from
the
state.
So
I'm
not.
J
I
don't
know
if
we
have
standing
in
that
in
that
area,
and
I
don't
know
that
that's
an
a
business
that
we
want
to
get
into
for
lack
of
a
better
term.
So
I'd
I'd
like
to
hear
more
about
that.
I
am
very
supportive
of
the
motion.
That's
on
the
floor,
because
there
are
so
many
stakeholders
and
players
and
the
county
agencies
and
systems
that
we
we
have
to
hand
off
to
after
pd
makes
an
arrest.
J
I
think
we
do
have
to
collaborate
better
and
coordinate
more.
So
I
think
getting
that
getting
that
started
at
the
committee
level
makes
sense.
I
would
also,
obviously
I
think,
the
mayor
and
the
president
of
the
board
of
supervisors
should
be
involved
in
discussions
as
well
as
as
well
as
the
d.a
and
and
others
that
the
mayor
would
deem
appropriate
from
the
agencies
that
are
listed
in
the
memo
I
have
been
increasingly
well.
J
I've
always
opposed
the
the
no
bail
and
I've
been
increasingly
concerned
about
the
re-offenses
before
trials
are
happening
because
they're
so
long,
the
weights
for
trials
are
so
long.
So
I
know
we
have
identified
issues
to
deal
with,
and
I
I
really
do
respect
the
time
and
effort
that
was
put
into
this
and
and
as
always,
the
request
for
data
and
the
public
cost
of
re-arrest.
I
I
did
want
to
ask
lieutenant
donahue
about
that.
I
noticed
in
here
it
said
it
basically
said
we
don't
have
all
the
resources
to
do.
That.
A
So
yeah,
I
think
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
that
in
the
early
consideration
form
and
the
extensive
nature
that
it
would
take
to
gather
the
data
and
then
analyze
it
to
determine
what
those
actual
costs
are
right,
because
we
can
put
dollar
amounts
to
time,
to
equipment
to
personnel
as
well,
as
you
know,
dispatchers
and
call
takers
and
everything
that
is
involved.
But
it's
extensive
information
that
needs
to
be
analyzed
and
to
do
that.
We
just
don't
have
a
staff.
A
university
could
absolutely
come
in
and
do
this,
but
it
would.
J
Right
and
I
and
I
know
from
from
our
work
with
the
stanford
grad
students
that
that
also
takes
some
of
your
time
as
well,
so
it's
not
getting
people
familiar
with
with
the
data
that
that
you
all
keep
is
is
well.
Why
you're
in
your
job
right
it's
it's
time,
can
it
can
be
time
consuming?
So
do
you
have
a
sense
of
what
it
would
take
to
I
I
assume
we'd
have
to
do
an
rfp
or
work
with
a
university.
J
J
A
J
D
I'm
happy
to
take
that
and
it's
it's
not
because
I'm
afraid
steve
was
going
to
throw
out
a
big
number.
I
think,
if
you're,
if
you're,
referring
to
recommendation
number
five,
five,
yes
and
then
yeah
bullet
number
three.
You
know
we
went
back
and
forth
on
this,
so
I
think
to
go
back
into
the
past
and
get
a
bunch
of
this
data
is
where
we
would
need
assistance.
D
However,
many
if
we
were
looking
at
two
or
three
years
versus
if
it's
something
that
it
would
obviously
be
much
less
work,
if
it
was
something
that
we
needed
to
look
at
moving
forward
like
from
now
on.
But
again
I
think
the
you
know
the
assistant
chief
and
lieutenant
donahue
and
I
have
discussed-
let's
have
these
initial
meetings
in
this
collaboration
that
the
mayor's
convening
to
see.
D
If
this
is
even
a
really
big
need,
and
if
it
isn't
a
need,
then
you
know,
maybe
we
just
focus
on
data
moving
forward,
but
if
we
do
think
you
know,
this
helps
our
advocacy
or
you
know.
Quite
frankly,
if
we're
seeing
opposition
to
certain
things
where
we
might
need
advocacy,
then
then
we
would
loop
back
around
to
this.
So
that's
how
we
would
approach
a
council
member.
J
K
That's
okay,
mayor:
I
think
if
it's
a
response
to
council
member
davis,
okay,
absolutely
appropriate.
H
Okay,
great
yeah
yeah
a
few
thoughts.
First,
you
know
the
first
line
of
the
of
the
memo
is
direct.
The
city
manager
participated
in
meetings
with
these
agencies
and
whether
I'm
there
or
not,
it's
less
important
than
having
staff
there,
namely
police
department,
c
manager
staff
and
the
reason
why
I
say
it's
important
for
staff
to
staff
meetings
is
because
we're
not
going
to
have
judges
come
to
a
joint
county
city
meeting
they're
not
going
to
come,
and
they
don't
want
to
publicly
talk
about
these
kinds
of
things.
H
Similarly,
the
d.a
and
the
public
defender
don't
report
to
the
county
executive,
and
so
that's
why
the
direction
the
staff
was
really
look.
These
are
really
important
players
and
certainly,
I
hope
it's
evident
from
the
memo
recognizes
that
the
decisions
are
overwhelmingly
be
made
outside
city
hall,
and
so
yes,
we
do
have
to
work
collaboratively
with
folks.
H
I
don't
think
we
actually
get
to
any
kind
of
result
by
having
a
county
city
meeting
with
a
group
of
us
and
a
group
of
county
supervisors
talking
about
the
problem,
because
we're
not
the
ones
actually
making
decisions
for
any
of
those
agencies.
We're
not
judges,
we're
not
tas
we're,
not
public
defenders,
although
obviously
the
county
executive
does
play
a
role
pre-trial
services
so
they're,
certainly
their
staff
is
absolutely
relevant.
So
so
that's
why
it
was
suggested
to
staff
and
again
I
don't
need
to
be
at
those
meetings.
H
I
think
staff
needs
to
be
at
this
meeting,
so
we
can
at
least
talk
about
where
the
challenges
are,
because
this
is
a
problem.
I've
heard
that's
not
recent.
I
heard
those
these
complaints
from
chief
eddie
garcia
two
years
ago
saying
all
we're
doing
is
arresting
people
that
are
right
back
out
on
the
street
in
two
hours
and
the
data
is
really
clear.
You
know
the
data
that
was
already
collected
by
police
department
about
a
year
ago
that
we
have
30
people
that
were
resting
10
times
or
more
in
a
period
of
a
year.
H
H
If
they're
in
public
hearings
around
elected
officials,
on
the
other
hand,
I
think
they
could
be
very
productive
if
it's
da's
and
public
defenders
and
pre-child
services
and
county
executives
and
the
police
in
our
city
management,
talking
about
how
what
the
problem
is
and
where
the
data
shows.
I
really
agree
with
the
sentiment
of
councilman
davis.
We
don't
want
to
be
in
the
drug
treatment
business.
That's
not
our
business.
H
We
have
a
really
severe
shortage
in
drug
treatment
beds,
we're
not
going
to
get
in
the
business
of
in
patient
treatment.
We
know
we
can't,
nor
do
we
have
any
intention
of
doing
that.
On
the
other
hand,
what
the
state-
and
I'm
saying
this
from
secretary
mark
galley
at
hhs
has
been
very
clear-
is
that
cities
can
apply
for
these
funds
that
are
described
here.
The
bhcip
funds,
obviously
in
partnership
with
the
county
and
we've
talked
extensively
with
the
county
about
this.
H
I
know
our
city
staff
have
been
involved
in
this
and
they
are
supportive
of
our
application,
and
this
is
a
way
for
us
to
get
more
units
built
using
capital
infrastructure
dollars,
and
the
idea
would
be
the
impatient
like
lock
facility
would
be
outpatient
treatment,
that'd
be
provided
facility
because
lord
knows
we'd
all
love
to
have
drug
treatment
at
any
of
our
current
quick,
build
housing,
apartment
communities
or
converted
motels
for
for
our
house
right
and
if
we
had
the
resources
we'd
do
it.
H
This
provides
us
a
means
to
use
some
state
resources
for
the
construction,
whether
that's
renovating
a
motel
or
building
a
quick,
build
apartment,
community
and
then
obviously
relying
on
a
provider.
The
county
obviously
needs
to
be
essentially
involved
in
all
that
they
indicated
their
ascent
to
having
a
supply.
H
We've
been
talking
about
they're
applying
for
some
parts
of
this
grant,
we're
applying
for
other
parts,
and
that
would
be
the
idea
and
then
finally,
I
just
know
that
there
are
items
here
that
don't
have
anything
to
do
with
other
agencies
and
those
are
generally
under
paragraphs
four
and
five,
particularly
for
relating
what
we
can
do
about
enabling
the
uploading
video
evidence,
for
example,
taking
positions
on
some
straightforward
bills
in
front
of
congress
and
state
legislature
to
ensure
we
can
halt
online
fencing.
H
Last
thing
I
didn't
mention,
I'm
sorry
we
have
already
approved
that
is
you.
The
council.
We've
already
approved
funding
in
the
budget
for
the
re-arresting
and
for
affidavits,
so
assuming
that
also
gets
approved
in
june.
That
would
be
in
the
budget,
at
least
that's
what
you've
directed
to
come
back
to
us
in
the
budget.
I
appreciate
counselor
prowls's
point
which
is
hey.
Some
of
these
may
be
policy
questions
we
want
to
have
broader
conversations
about
the
council
and
with
the
county.
That's
certainly
fine.
H
I
suspect
what
we're
going
to
hear
from
the
county
staff
every
time
we've
gone
to
them
in
the
last
six
months
or
a
year.
I
don't
know
you
tell
me
how
many
times
have
we
asked
for
a
joint
meeting
for
one
issue
or
another
and
for
the
most
part,
they're
feeling
pretty
overwhelmed
and
they're,
not
super
interested
in
joint
meetings.
Lee
correct
me:
if
I'm
wrong
about
that.
D
H
Yeah,
so
I
certainly
appreciate
the
sentiment
happy
to
have
these
conversations
publicly
collaboratively,
but
I
don't
think
a
joint
meeting
is
likely
to
get
scheduled.
So
that's
why
the
thought
was:
let's
have
staff
talking
to
staff
and
see
if
we
can
at
least
get
through
some
of
these
challenges
and
hopefully
we'll
have
less
frustrated
residents
and
officers.
B
Thank
you,
mayor
council,
member
arenas.
K
Thank
you
guys,
mayor.
K
This
is
difficult,
because
I
know
that
everything
that's
in
your
middleman
are
areas
of
concern
for
all
of
us,
and
you
know
they
they
seep
into
our
communities
over
generations
and
that's
a
lot
of
what
we
see
in
terms
of
of
symptoms
right
now,
just
the
difficulty
of
being
able
to
maybe
re-enter
a
society
after
being
incarcerated
and
not
having
a
support
system,
maybe
not
having
sober
living
environments
spread
out
throughout
the
city,
not
just
solely
in
the
downtown
area,
so
that
there
isn't
any
of
those
repeated
drugs,
social
cues
that
relapse
folks.
K
K
I
think
the
most
effective
of
the
strategies
was
a
lot
of
the
wraparound
services
that
were
provided,
not
only
you
know,
not
only,
of
course,
housing
and
inpatient
and
outpatient
treatment,
but
parenting
support,
which
is
where
I
I
came
in
to
play
a
part,
because
a
lot
of
folks
just
don't
know
how
to
be
that
parent
to
that
child,
and
then
that
becomes
a
whole
cycle
for
the
for
that
next
generation.
K
And
so
I
I
I
like
the
idea
of
working
on
some
of
these
issue
areas.
I
I
do.
I
do
think
that
we
need
to
have
a
very
comprehensive
conversation
with
the
different
systems
that
are
impacted
here.
K
I
know
that
we
can
have
some
pilot
programs
potentially,
if
we
have
these
conversations,
if
we
get
the
right
folks
into
the
room
that
we
could
have
them
through
drug
court,
there's
a
lot
of
specialty
courts
that
offer
wrap-around
services
currently
and
they've
already
figured
out
the
the
best
theory
of
change,
they've
already
figured
out
what's
the
best
strategy,
what
what's
the
best
wrap
around
model
for
for
the
different
folks
who
are
coming
through?
K
I
think
we
just
don't.
I
wouldn't
know
you
know
I.
I
know
that
that
incarceration
is
definitely
not
the
only
solution
it
is.
There
is
a
lot
of
systemic
issues
that
that,
unfortunately
create
allow
people
to
be
back
in
the
streets.
That
really
shouldn't
be,
and
I
completely
agree.
I
know
you
know
we.
K
We've
had
some
folks
who've
attacked
volunteers
over
at
grace
church
and
that
person
had
previous
intimate
partner
violence
and
we
knowing
some
of
that
they
were
still
released,
and
so
I
do
think
that
the
that
judges
aren't
hard
enough
on
on
certain
crimes
like
sexual
abuse,
sexual
assault,
intimate
partner
violence.
I
would
like
to
see
a
different
kind
of
incarceration
and
an
impact
on
those
folks
or
a
different
wraparound
service
for
those
folks.
So
I'm
absolutely
interested
in
this.
In
this.
K
In
this
memo
and
how
to
how
to
accomplish
this,
I
do
think
that
there
is
an
opportunity
for
us
to
have
this
collaboration.
I
I
had
I
think,
from
november
november,
to
maybe
two
weeks
three
weeks
ago,
I've
had
two
joint
meetings
with
the
children
and
families
committee.
K
You
know,
there's
there's
obviously
some
work
that
has
to
be
done
by
our
teams,
but
but
it
can
be
done,
and
I
think
that
there's
a
lot
of
opportunity
for
us
to
do
some
of
maybe
some
of
that
leg
work
through
the
committees
and
it
doesn't
leave
anybody
out
of
the
conversation,
because
what
we've
done
in
the
past
is
we've
set
up
the
committee
as
a
committee
of
the
whole,
so
everyone
and
anyone
can
come
in
and
contribute
to
that
conversation
in
terms
of
council
members
as
well
as
public.
K
Of
course
always
our
public
is
always
allowed
to
come
in,
but
I
meant
for
for
council
members,
and
so
I
I
think
that
that
we
should,
at
the
very
least,
give
a
shot
in
terms
of
our
collaboration
and
trying
to
see
how
how
we
can
bring
these
systems
together
so
that
we
can
have
one
conversation.
I'd
I'd
hate
for
us
to
have
to
to
advance
in
any
of
these
different
areas
that
are
green,
lit,
which
it
seems
like
the
majority
of
them
all
to
know.
K
You
know
to
realize
that
we
can't
really
you
know
we're
advancing
yet
everybody
else
is
maybe
functioning
in
a
different
with
a
different
framework,
with
a
different
mindset,
making
decisions
just
very
differently
than
what
we
are,
and
I
think
that's
where
the
collaboration
makes
sense,
so
that
we're
all
on
the
same
page
we're
all
taking
the
same
kind
of
approach
to
the
issues,
and
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
learning
that
we
that
I
I'm
not
gonna
say
we
that
I
need
to
that
that
I
need
to
have
so
that
I
can
make
sure
that
that
what
I
contribute
is
is
meaningful,
and
I
don't
know
that
at
this
point
I
would
be
able
to
to
do
that.
K
I
am
part
of
the
committee
that
council
member
perales
chairs
for
public
safety,
but
I
I
you
know
I
would
want
us
to
have
study
sessions
in
some
of
these
areas,
maybe
our
own,
our
own
homework,
to
learn
more
so
that
we
can
also
have
meaningful
engagement
with
the
rest
of
the
systems.
K
I
do
think
this
is
an
opportunity
for
us
to
create
some
slight
differences
in
how
folks
are
treated
and
and
can
potentially
create
some
recidivism
rates
that
that
would
benefit
our
community
members,
and
I
know
the
county
is-
is
building
an
inpatient
mental
health
facility
behind
bali,
med
and
for
the
very
first
time
they're
going
to
include
youth,
and
I
think
to
me
that
that's
also
going
to
make
a
huge
difference,
because
that
youth
that
normally
would
just
get
incarcerated
would
now
have
the
possibility
of
being
in
an
inpatient
facility
where
they
can
get
that
support,
that
they
actually
need,
and
I
know
that
they're
going
to
have
just
a
plethora
of
wrap
around
services
like
we
haven't
seen
before
the
same
thing
is
true
for
the
new
jail
they'll
have
that
level
of
capacity
in
terms
of
counselors
and
support
services
and
the
new
jail
as
well
anyways.
K
I'll
all
to
this
is
just
my
perspective
on
on
this
issue,
which
I
agree,
this
meth
is
definitely
an
er,
a
drug
that
has
impacted
people
of
color
for
a
really
long
time
and
we've
never
really
shut
it
down
and
now.
On
top
of
that
is
opiates,
and
you
know
all
of
the
these
new
drugs
that
I
just
I
can't
keep
up
with,
but
that
certainly
are
killing
our
children
and
are
killing
our
youth,
so
I'm
on
board.
K
I
do
think
that
the
pa,
the
best
path
forward,
at
least
the
first
step,
is
to
try
to
see
if
we
can
do
it
on
committee
and
then,
if
that
doesn't
seem
to
work
out,
then
we
can
try
something
else
and
we
can
pivot.
B
All
right,
thank
you.
Councilmember
davis,.
J
Thank
you.
I
just
I
I
thought
about
what
the
mayor
was
saying
and
I
about
directing
the
city
manager
to
participate
in
meetings,
but
I
also
listening
to
council
member
arenas
and
thinking
about
the
supervisor.
Ellenberg
had
a
press
conference
yesterday
about
additional
detox
beds
and
a
new,
a
new
program,
the
pilot
program
for
the
treatment
of
meth
addiction,
and
then
they
are
also
implementing
streamlined
processes
to
directly
connect
homeless
patients
to
detox
and
residential
treatment
programs.
J
And
so
in
some
ways
I
think,
going
through
the
committee
process
having
joined
a
joint
committee
meeting
will
help
us
learn
more
about
what
is
already
being
done
and
what
is
planned
so
that
we
can
figure
out
where
to
plug
in
and
then
on.
So
that's
on
one
hand
and
then,
on
the
other
hand,
mayor,
I
guess
I
was
thinking
about.
I
don't
know
how
the
mayor's
gang
prevention
task
force
was
originally
set
up.
J
If
it
was
something
like
this,
where
the
council
had
to
take
action
to
direct
city
staff
to
work
with
the
other
agencies,
but
you
and
you
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
I
think
everyone
you're
thinking
about-
comes
to
those
mayor's
gang
prevention
task
force
meetings
already.
Am
I
right
about
that.
H
Yeah,
I
think
the
challenges
that,
as
you
know,
really
the
focus
is
on
youth
and
young
adults
in
those
programs
and
appropriately.
So
what
we're
talking
about
are
quite
often
very
serious
offenders
who
are
well
along
in
years.
H
Are
not
the
same
players?
No,
I
mean,
for
example,
criminal
judges,
probably
a
different
group
of
folks,
for
example,.
J
H
Yeah
I
mean
look,
I'm
having
these
meetings.
I've
been
having
these
meetings
for
last
six
months,
so
you're
right
I
mean
I
can
just
keep
having
these
meetings
I'll
do
it
would
be
helpful,
particularly
as
we
think
about,
for
example,
applying
for
state
funding
for
a
facility
would
be
helpful
to
have
be
able
to
say
there's
some
authorization,
it's
not
just
coming
from
the
mayor's
office.
Okay,
yeah
and
obviously
I
understand
not
everyone's
gonna
agree
with
all
the
solutions.
That's
fine,
I
think.
H
More
than
anything,
I
think
you
really
want
the
opportunity
to
be
able
to
say
look
as
a
city,
we're
concerned,
here's
the
data.
We
have
we'd
like
to
see
the
data
you
have
to
help
us
understand
what's
the
best
solution,
but
it's
hard
to
look
at
the
data
and
not
conclude
that
there's
a
lot
of
people
being
released
back
onto
our
streets
that
we'd
all
probably
prefer,
would
either
be
in
drug
treatment
or
in
jail.
J
Certainly,
certainly
so
I
guess
what
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
is.
I
do
think
a
good
chunk
of
this
work
could
happen
in
a
joint
committee,
but
I
understand
you're
wanting
the
council
to
kind
of
give
you
a
seal
of
approval
that
you
can
kind
of
go
and
take
and
say
we're
all
we're
all
behind
this.
So
I'm
I'm
wondering
if
we
can
maybe
amend
the
motion
to
take
the
the
peace
council.
Member
peralta's
take
the
piece
about
directing
the
city
manager
to
participate
in
meetings
with
the
mayor's
office.
J
I
I'm
I'm
hesitant
in
that
for
a
couple
reasons.
Obviously
you
know,
I
think,
as
the
mayor
points
out
he's
already
been
having
these.
No
nothing
stops
him
from
committing
people
to
to
converse,
but
I
also
recognize
the
challenge
of
trying
to
coordinate
an
official
task
force,
and
that
is
not
a.
It
sounds
right,
maybe
like
a
an
easier
lift,
but
it's
not,
and
I
specifically,
for
instance,
on
homelessness.
I
I
have
attempted
for
over
five
years
now,
as
lee
can
attest
on
trying
to
convene
a
task
force
and
had
to
go
through
priority.
Setting
had
to
go
through
the
budget
actually
got
some
funding
through
the
budget
turned
into
just
an
internal.
You
know
working
group
with
city
staff
and
and
ultimately
not
as
I
think,
as
straightforward
as
it
may
seem,
or
as
we
may
like
it
to
be,
to
convene
different
stakeholders.
I
I
would
prefer
that
at
the
moment
the
mayor
continue
having
the
meetings
as
he
has
and
then
after
we
have
an
initial
conversation
to
determine,
would
we
want
to
refer
something
to
create
a
brand
new
task
force?
I
think
you
know,
outside
of
the
conversation
we're
just
having
right
now.
I
haven't
even
considered
that,
because
I
you
know
I
I
took
the
mayor's
memo
in
those
meetings
is
not
necessarily
a
task
force,
but
as
conversations
that
I
likely
assumed
he
as
he
mentioned,
he
has
already
been
having.
J
J
I
understand
you're
the
you're,
the
maker
of
the
motion,
and
there
seems
to
be
some.
There
seems
to
be
enough
support
for
it.
I
certainly
do
support
some
of
this
work
happening
in
the
committee
at
the
committee
level.
I
do
I
do
think
we
want
to
promote
coordination
across
agencies,
and
I
and
I'm
hadn't
thought
about
the
fact
about
judges
not
being
part
of
the
the
county
they're
part
of
the
county
system,
but
not
not
under
jeff.
J
So
I
I
do
I
I
guess
I
can
make
a
substitute
motion
that
would
that
would
include
everything
that
was
in
council
member
paralysis.
Motion,
in
addition
to
a
referral
to
the
city
council
for
specific
direction
to
the
city
manager
to
participate
in
co-lead
meetings
with
the
mayor's
office
on
these
topics.
B
All
right,
councilmember.
I
I
I
would
like
to
have
the
conversations
first
and
it
is
my
understanding
that
actually
the
presiding
judge,
as
I'm
hearing
from
supervisor
ellenberg's
office,
does
actually
report
to
their
public
safety
and
justice
committee,
and-
and
so
it's
actually,
I
think,
potential
that
we
are
getting
the
right
group
of
people
or
the
right
committee
from
the
county,
and
we
may
not
know
that
yet
that
you
know
how
how
well
that
conversation
can
go
and
then
my
hope
is-
and
I
recognize
that
would
not
be
the
the
end-all
be-all
is
that
we
just
have
you
know
one
joint
hearing.
I
The
idea
would
be,
let's
actually
get
some
of
the
right
stakeholders
in
the
room
and
then
collectively
come
up
with
a
direction
move
forward,
and
so
it
may
very
well
be
likely
that
we
come
out
and
say
you
know
what
we
want
to
have
a
more
continued
task
force
or
working
group
discussion
out
of
that,
and
and
I'd
like
to
have
that
discussion
jointly
with
with
our
colleagues
through
the
county,
and
I
do
feel
this
is
the
you
know,
the
the
best
group,
the
best
committee
at
the
county,
that
we
can
be
working
with
and
and
just
to
speak
to
the
mayor's
comments.
I
And
I
know
lee
responded
on
the
challenges
because
I
personally
am
interested
in
other
joint
hearings.
As
lee
knows
with
the
county
that
I
know,
we've
we've
had
a
challenge
on
getting
buy-in
on,
but
I
specifically
asked
supervisor
helen
office
to
be
able
to
be
here
today,
so
they
could
express
that
that
willingness
was
there
and,
as
councilmember
dennis
expressed,
she's
had
a
lot
of
success
in
these
joint
hearings.
So
I
think
we
have
the
commitment
from
their
chair
that
is
going
to
drive
that
agenda.
I
As
I
will
drive
the
agenda
with
our
public
safety
committee,
and
so
we
have
the
commitment
that
that
meeting
will
happen.
So
I'm
not
concerned
as
the
mayor
is
that
you
know
that
meeting
is
somehow
not
going
to
be
planned.
I
give
you
my
commitment
here
and
we
will
be
working
already
again.
We
already
are
in
conversation.
I
That's
why
I
wanted
them
to
to
be
here
today
in
regards
to
some
of
the
items
that,
as
the
mayor
points
out
actually
are
under,
you
know
our
our
ability
to
move
forward
with,
for
instance,
the
air
tags
right
on
on
decoy
for
death
detection,
as
was
stated
in
the
early
consideration
form.
Those
are
actually
as
we
see
something
that
maybe
is,
is
not
actually
as
as
effective
as
we
would
like,
and
so
I
don't
necessarily
want
to
just
assume.
I
Well,
let's
go
based
off
of
the
mayor's
memo
and
in
the
early
consideration
form,
and
that's
good
enough
for
us
to
to
say
some
of
these
things.
We
should
move
forward
on
and
we
heard
the
response
on
deploying
you
know
csos
or
non-sworn
staff
and
how
maybe
that's
not
going
to
be
the
most
effective,
so
again,
potentially
good
ideas.
All
we
have
is
a
one-week
investigation
and
response
from
our
city
manager's
office.
On
this
before
we
give
any
direction
to
move
forward.
I
I
want
a
lot
more
conversation
than
that
and
simply
just
to
to
take
the
word
or
the
the
written
word
here
of
of
what's
in
the
memo
and
then
what's
in
the
early
consideration
form
and
say,
let's
give
direction
move
forward,
I
would
prefer
to
have
as
I've
given
in
the
motion
a
more
detailed
conversation
on
all
of
these
items.
I
The
mayor
points
out
and,
as
I
mentioned
as
well,
the
budget
process
has
its
own
separate
path
and,
and
we
have
an
opportunity
to
approve
some
of
those
items
that
are
that
are
already
being
suggested
in
the
budget
in
may
and
likely
they
will
pass
as
they've
gotten
support
from
the
council
already,
but
as
a
whole.
I
think
that
the
remainder
of
this
recommendations
in
this
memo
should
go
as
the
current
motion
stands
and
be
referred
to
our
public
safety,
finance
and
strategic
support
committee,
and
that's
it
for
me.
Thanks.
B
Thank
you
guys,
member,
I
know
mayor,
you
have
your
hand
up
again,
but
just
I
wanted
to
ask
you
a
couple
quick
questions.
Well
sure
I
want
to
thank
you
for
bringing
this
issue
forward.
All
of
us
on
the
council-
and
you
I
know
have
heard
from
our
residents
in
the
increase
in
crime
and
what's
going
on
in
our
city,
is,
is
a
major
concern.
B
H
Among
a
group
of
folks,
all
of
us
would
need
an
enormous
amount
of
experience
and
education
in
that
process
to
be
able
to
have
any
kind
of
meaningful
input
and
insight
into
so
I
just
think
these
are
conversations
none
of
those
people
I
just
mentioned
by
the
way
public
defenders,
da's
or
judges
report
to
the
county
executive
right.
The
county
executive
does,
however,
have
control
over,
for
example,
services.
That's
really
important,
at
least
as
I
as
this
is,
I
understand
it
and
drug
treatment.
H
So
all
these
folks
are
important,
but
they
don't
all
just
flow
up
through
the
county
and
judges
are
employed
by
the
state.
So
it's
just
really
important
and-
and
frankly
I
I
I'm
not
going
to
speak
for
any
particular
judge,
but
I'm
fairly
confident
judges
would
say
they're
not
that
interested
in
a
big
public
arena.
H
That's
not
that's
not
the
way
judges
work,
they
they
don't
believe
and
appropriately,
so
that
their
decisions
to
be
subject
to
the
political
winds
and
getting
into
public
hearings,
and
all
that
is,
is
not
something
I
think
they're
gonna
find
to
be
that
constructive.
B
Yeah-
and
I
totally
I
don't
disagree
with
you
yeah
how
girl
was
going
with
this
sam
or
me,
I'm
sorry
mayor.
Yes,
no,
that's
right!
My
concern
that
if
we,
if
we
reach
out
to
stakeholders
like
judges,
the
d.a
and
public
defenders
and
we're
we're
speaking
from
san
jose's
voice,
the
county
is
also
going
to
be
talking
to
those
individuals
and
they're
going
to
be
speaking
from
their
voice.
In
their
perspective,.
B
Undermines
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish
so
the
reason
why
I'm
supportive
of
having
this
joint
meeting
is
at
least
provide
an
opportunity
where
we
can
convene
with
the
count
our
county
counterparts
and
at
least
attempt
to
work
out
some
of
these
issues
so
that
we
can
speak
with.
You
know
one
voice
and
one
vision.
B
We
might
not
be
successful,
but
I
I
think
it's
it's
incumbent
upon
us
to
at
least
try
to
do
that
now.
That
being
said,
you
know
I
don't
want
to
have
a
situation
where
you
know
we
have
to
wait
six
months
or
eight
months
to
even
you
know,
pull
something
like
that
together,
but
if
we
can
get
something
that
if
we
can
get
that
meeting
scheduled
in
a
pretty
timely
fashion,
I
think
it
would
be
worthwhile
to
accomplish
what
you're
trying
to
accomplish
in
terms
of
having
that
dialogue
with
the
other
stakeholders.
H
Okay,
I
I
just
want
to
add
one
other
concern
among
several,
which
is
we've
got
a
deadline
to
apply
by
may
31st
under
the
bhcip
program.
I've
had
conversations
with
the
county
executive
a
couple
occasions
about
this.
I
know
lee
has
as
well
city
staff
with
other
folks
in
county
staff,
gone
through
very
extensive
conversations
about
how
to
apply
when
and
so
forth.
H
If
we
met
the
deadline,
we
missed
the
deadline,
so
we
can
go
to
joint
meetings
and
so
forth,
but
that
means
we
lose
that
opportunity
for
our
share
of
a
2.2
billion
dollar
program
that
today,
to
my
knowledge,
hasn't
resulted
in
anything
getting
built
in
our
city
or
in
our
county
now
I
know
the
county
may
be
applying
for
other
elements
in
that
program,
but
so
far,
and
at
least
in
the
first
phase,
nothing-
and
so
you
know
there
is
a
very
big
missed
opportunity
here.
H
I
would
hope
at
least
that
element
could
go
forward,
so
we
can
make
an
application
and
get
state
funding
to
expand
drug
treatment
in
a
city
where
we
don't
have
any
responsibility
for
drug
treatment.
But
I
can
tell
you
if
you're
talking
any
drug
treatment
providers,
we
have
a
woeful
inadequacy
of
basic
treatment
resources.
B
Do
we
know
and
married,
I
I
never
want
to
miss
a
a
grant
deadline.
So
duly
noted,
councilmember,
cohen.
C
Yeah,
thank
you
and
thank
you
for
that
good
line
of
questioning,
because
that's
kind
of
what
I
was
was
going
to
address
you
know.
I
have
had
conversations
over
the
last
couple
months
with
members
of
the
board
of
supervisors
directly
on
some
of
the
things
in
this
memo
or
other
things
that
I've
been
interested
in
and
every
time
I
talk
to
them.
I
learned
something
that
I
didn't
know
or
didn't
understand,
because
these
aren't
things
that
are
in
our
areas
of
expertise.
C
C
They
understand
about
a
lot
of
these
issues
and
I've
heard
from
some
people
saying
well,
you
know,
you're,
the
city
might
think
this
is
a
good
idea,
but
we
have
reasons
why
we
don't
think
it's
a
good
idea
or
there's
some
some
elements
of
this-
that
we
could
probably
work
on
together,
but
we
probably
need
to
have
a
conversation
about
what
about
what
our
joint
interests
are
or
or
how
to
come
up
with
a
unified
plan
on
those
things,
and
I
just
don't.
C
With
certain
with
other
organizations
in
the
county
and
kind
of
bypass
the
county
itself,
or
assume
that
we
have
to
do
this
at
a
staff
to
staff
level
but
not
get
the
input
of
the
county
board,
I
think
I
mean
I
do
think.
The
county
board
has
as
a
level
of
expertise
in
some
of
these
issues
that
we
would
benefit
from
so
councilman.
C
So
I
mean
but
but
to
me
I
mean
the
question
about
whether
it
was
staff
to
staff
or
board
to
board.
I
think
you
asked
if
you
had
said
the
question
about
policy
makers
versus
staff,
and
it
strikes
me
that
you
know
there's
been
some
resistance
about
staff
to
staff
meetings,
but
we
do
have
a
commitment
to
have
meetings
with
the
policy
makers
and
the
policy.
C
The
board
members
that
I
speak
to
have
provided
me
with
a
lot
of
good
insight
and
expertise,
and
some
of
these
issues
that
I
don't
think
that
we
always
have,
and
so
I
I
do
think,
there's
value
to
be
had
in
that
conversation
with
members
of
the
board
and
that
joint
meeting
that
councilman
probably
recommended,
I
think,
makes
a
lot
of
sense
as
a
first
step
for
the
reasons
that
vice
mayor
jones
mentioned,
which
is
that
gives
us
the
opportunity
to
say
which
are
these
things
that
we
can
do
together,
which
are
things
that
that
we
are
going
to
disagree
on.
C
And
maybe
we
won't
will
we
advocating
from
different
places
and
that's
good
to
know
as
well,
because
you
know
we're
not
necessarily
going
to
get
the
change
we
want
if
we're
going
it
alone.
So
I
that
that's
the
reason
why
I
think
this
is
an
important
intermediate
step,
because
it's
not
clear
to
me,
you
know
what
we
might
say.
This
sounds
like
a
good
solution.
When
I've
run
some
of
these
things
by
others,
they
they
give
different
viewpoints
about
why
some
of
these
things
aren't
necessarily
as
straightforward
as
they
might
seem.
C
C
You
know,
isn't
necessarily
to
me
the
approach
we
should
be
taking,
because
we
want
the
county
to
be
on
board,
so
we
can.
We
can
apply
for
this
jointly.
We
can
have
that
conversation
in
a
short
time.
That's
great,
then
we
can
maybe
apply
for
the
grant,
but
if
the
county
is
not
willing
to
apply
for
the
grant,
it's
not
clear
to
me
that
we
should
be
saying
well
we're
going
to
bypass
the
county
and
apply
for
ourselves.
That's
why
I
think
these
conversations
are
very
important
to
be
had
collectively
in
a
collaborative
manner.
I
Yeah,
thank
you
and
I
was
going
to
mention
the
same
thing.
Councilman
cohen,
just
did
in
regards
to
the
grant
application
due
by
the
may
31st.
I
As
was
stated
in
the
early
consideration
form,
there
doesn't
seem
to
be
an
opportunity
to
get
that
joint
application
by
this
may
31st
deadline
regardless,
and
so
it's
not
like
we're
holding
anything
up
by
having
a
joint
conversation-
and
I
would
I
would
say
the
reality
is-
is
that
if
we
wanted
something
to
be
less
public
or
less
political,
I
think
mayor
that
that's
our
that
ship
has
sailed,
and
it's
not
going
to
be
my
recommendation
of
coming
to
a
committee
that
is
going
to
make
that
the
case,
as
is
clear
by
the
public
op-eds
by
the
letter
we
got
from
public
defender
that
this
is
already
political
in
in
nature.
I
As
the
memo
was
developed
and
I
think
is
the
the
the
the
ensuing
words
exchanged
are
coming
out.
So
unfortunately
that's
just
the
case
and
that's
the
nature
of
the
business
we're
in.
So
I
don't
think
there's
any
avoiding
that,
and
certainly
I
don't
think
that
we're
creating
that
by
having
it
come
to
the
public
safety
committee
and
having
a
joint
conversation
around
it.
I
In
fact,
I
actually
think
that
is
a
more
productive
way,
rather
than
than
the
way
that
so
far
it
has
rolled
out
and
now
kind
of
played
out
with
some
back
and
forth
letters
and
media
about
it
and
then
even
the
conversation
that
we're
having
today.
So
I
I
recognize
it
looks
like
we
have
the
votes
to
be
able
to
do
that,
and
so
I'll
rest
my
case
and
and
hope
we
can
vote
and
then
move
on.
H
I
just
want
to
understand
a
little
better.
There
may
be
some
misunderstanding:
I'm
reading
the
most
recent
council
prioritization
and
I
don't
know
if
it
actually
specifically
mentions.
I
know
it's
been
revised
and
specifically
mentions
that
our
office
would
be
taking
on
the
application
so
that
we
could
actually
get
the
funding
since
we're
not
getting
any
home
key
allocation
so
far,
and
that
we
might
actually
really
want
this
bhcip
money.
H
So
we
could
actually
build
or
convert
the
housing
we
need
for
those
unhoused
residents
who
have
drug
treatment
needs
because
paul
suggested
somehow
another.
It's
not
going
to
happen.
B
Well,
that
came
from
the
early
consideration
form,
so
I
guess
lee.
Can
you
provide
us
with
some
clarity
on
that.
D
Sure
the
early
consideration
form
for
3a
green
lights
under
the
conditions
outlined
below
with
the
mayor's
office,
submitting
the
application
so
from
a
staff
perspective
for
housing
and
igr
to
jump
in
and
lead
this
effort.
We
didn't
think
we
had
the
ability
to
do
that,
but
the
mayor's
office
and
as
the
mayor
has
mentioned,
he's
been
having
conversations
with
the
state.
D
So
the
mayor
offered
that
their
office
would
lead
a
submittal
with
pretty
low
bandwidth
from
the
housing
department
igr
office
if
needed.
So
we
greenlit
it
under
those
conditions
with
the
mayor's
office
applying
for
that
grant.
B
H
D
D
I
think
what
I
heard
the
mayor
say
at
the
beginning,
or
you
know,
looking
at
3a
and
and
trying
to
get
some
support
from
the
organization
or
council
so
as
he
submits
that
application,
it
doesn't
look
like
you
know,
just
one
part
of
the
city,
but
that
is
the
city
of
a
whole,
but
I
I
would
defer
to
nora
on
the
legal
part
of
that
hey.
B
Norah
before
you
provide
legal
guidance,
I
just
want
to
ask
councilmember
perales
can.
Can
you
amend
the
motion
to
give
the
mirror
authorization
to
pursue
the
grant
and
for
the
simple
reason
that
I
understand
what
you
and
councilmember
cohen
said
about?
You
know
the
county
not
necessarily
being
on
board,
but
you
know
I
hate
to
leave
money
on
the
table
and
if
we
can
pursue
the
grant
and
get
the
grant
and
then
figure
it
out
with
the
county,
I
think
that
would
be
a
more
effective
way
to
go.
Then
not
not
go.
H
I
I
I
H
For
construction
of
facilities,
that
means
for
housing
specifically
right,
so
we
can
either
use
it
for
a
quick
bill,
an
apartment
community.
We
can
use
it
for
a
conversion
of
a
motel
and
right
now
we're
striking
out
in
a
big
way
on
home
key
projects.
So
this
could
be
funding.
We
could
use
that
essentially
be
on
an
existing
home
key
site,
for
example,
that.
I
Would
be
mayor
if
you
don't
mind,
I'd
like
to
ask
staff,
because
look
I'm
not
trying
to
claim
that
you,
you
don't
know
what
you're
talking
about,
but
I'd
like
to
see
if
we
have
staff,
whether
it's
lee
yourself
or
there's
somebody
here
from
from
housing
that,
as
I
know,
housing
responded
in
the
early
consideration
form,
I
haven't
done
the
homework
on
this
grant.
So
I'll
take
the
mayor's
word
for
it.
I
But
my
understanding
is:
is
that
the
reason
we
need
the
partner
of
the
county
here,
or
at
least
their
authorization
in
this
regard
is
because
this
would
require
that
partnership
and
a
lot
of
that
resource
is
going
to
need
the
county
there
with
us.
I
So
tell
me
from
ron
it
doesn't
sound
like
we
are
leaving
money
on
the
table
for
something
that
we
would
traditionally
be
using.
But
am
I
wrong
on
that
and
what
the
mayor
is
saying
there
is:
is
there
some
truth
to?
Is
this
funding
that
we
could
just
specifically
use?
We
don't
need
the
county.
We
could
put
this
into
backfield,
because
I
would
agree
with
the
mayor
right.
We
struck
out
on
home
key,
and
so
is
this
money
that
we
can
use
to
backfill
stuff
like
that.
D
So
my
understanding-
and
this
is
the
mayor-
is
absolutely
correct.
This
is
a
new
pot
of
money
that
you
know,
cities
have
not
traditionally
gone
after,
but
all
indications
from
the
administration
and
the
governor's
office
is
the
city
should
apply
for
this
and
work
with
counties.
So
the
mayor
is
correct.
D
We
do
have
a
green
light
from
the
county
that
they
would
authorize
an
application
and
I
don't
think
it's
we
would
be
losing
out
on
money
that
we
would
normally
get
or
that
someone
else
would
get
that
money
will
go
elsewhere
within
the
state,
and
so
you
know
I
do
appreciate.
D
There's
a
lot
of
logistics
to
work
out
and
a
policy
conversation
to
be
had
at
some
point.
I
don't
think
pulling
off
a
joint
county
and
pispus
meeting
before
the
35th
or
31st
would
be
doable.
D
So
I
do
think
some
type
of
authorization
for
the
mayor
to
proceed
with
this
at
least
allows
us
to
then
have
a
policy
consideration
and
say
great:
we
got
the
grant
money,
let's
proceed,
here's
what
it's
for
or
if
we
don't
think
it's
appropriate
at
that
point,
give
it
back.
I
don't
think
that'll
be
the
case,
but
the
opportunity
cost
is
that
that
money
will
go
elsewhere
within
the
region
or
elsewhere
in
the
state.
B
C
Yes,
and
so
that
I
that
particular
item
would
come
back
to
counsel,
then
to
approve
that
to
approve
that
specific
authorization
is
that
the
idea
of
the
motion?
No,
we
won't
have
time.
D
C
B
H
Yeah,
just
with
regard
to
the
the
city-related
items
under
paragraph
four
completely
understand
appreciate
if,
if
one
of
the
options
for
use
of
grant
funding
for
air
tags,
for
example,
isn't
ideal,
the
reason
why
there's
an
ore
in
that
paragraph
is
these
are
mere
suggestions.
H
The
idea
of
applying
for
grant
funding
to
address
needs
to
counter
burglary
and
theft
and
our
our
business
communities
and
our
small
businesses.
The
idea
of
providing
functionality
in
an
online
portal
for
uploading
evidence
the
idea
of
halting
online
fencing
by
supporting
legislation.
Those
are
all
things
that
can
easily
come
back
to
council.
They
don't
need
a
lot
of
dialogue
with
any
other
agencies
would
just
ask
if
the
committee
would
consider
allowing
those
things
to
move
forward
so
that
way,
for
example,
the
legislation
I
know.
I
And
grant
funding
again
for
for
applying
for
for
resources.
I
That
element,
my
understanding
is,
we
don't
need
to
give
authorization
for
that.
The
police
department
applies
for
grants
all
the
time
without
coming
to
the
council
on
on
a
request
of
or
permission
so
if,
if
there's
an
application
to
be
put
in
for
some
resources
that
they
think
they
can
utilize,
that's
where
I
think
some
of
where
it
gets
utilized.
You
know
it
sounds
like
you
have
some
suggestions
here,
but
I
don't
you
know.
H
Yeah
the
difference
between
authorization
and
direction.
Here
I
guess-
and
chief
joseph
we
applied
at
this
point
for
any
of
those
funds
for
the
anti-theft
funds
that
were
announced
by
attorney
general
governor
governor
newsom.
H
There
are
areas
where
we
can
clearly
use
resources,
such
as,
for
example,
to
improve
the
functionality
of
the
san
jose
pd
portal
for
the
collection
of
evidence
from
those
in
the
community
who
want
to
offer
it.
So
those
are
the
kinds
of
things
that
would
be
good
to
have
grant
funding
for
and
to
have
some
direction
to
do.
That
would
be
helpful
because
we
know
there
are
a
lot
of
priorities
to
the
police
department.
I
Yeah,
I
think
for
me
it
boiled
down
to
more.
There
was
very
specific
direction,
even
as
you
mentioned,
you
put
an
ore
in
there,
but
the
reality
is
if
it's
just
asking
our
police
department.
I
know
several
officers
that
write
the
grants
that
you
know
are
receiving
funds
for
different
things,
that
we've
done
things
like
the
the
pilot
on
the
mcat
team
and
so
and
again,
they've
never
had
to
come
to
to
us
or
my
committee
or
the
council
right
to
get
permission
to
do
that.
They
simply
are
proactive
about
it.
I
I
We
don't
have
the
people
to
actually
look
into
this
or
apply
for
these
grants,
but
I
am
happy
to
just
like,
on
the
the
other
amendment
that
right
we
don't
leave
money
at
the
table
and
if
there's
some
grant
funding
that
we
can
get
there,
it
would
be
again
up
to
the
police
department
apply
for
the
grant
and
then,
rather
than
go
for
the
direction
that
we've
we've
heard
on
on
options
of
where
to
spend
it
that
we're
looking
for
the
police
department
to
tell
us
hey.
I
Where
best
do
we
think
this
fits?
Where
are
some
of
the
holes
and
how
can
they
utilize
that
resource?
And
so
I'm
happy
to
include
that
direction,
encouragement
to
lieutenant
donahue,
as
he's
stating
he
doesn't
know
the
answer
yet
on
have
we
applied
for
that
that
we
don't
leave
money
at
the
table
like
this?
Unless
you
lieutenant
you
come
back
and
say:
look
we
just
didn't.
Have
the
capacity
right
we
weren't
aware
or
we
didn't
have
the
people
to
put
in
the
time
to
to
apply
for
these
grants
would
have
been
nice.
I
I
think
have
that
answered
today,
but
I'm
happy
to
include
that
similar
to
the
the
first
amendment.
H
Yeah,
I
guess
the
request
councilmember
respectfully
was
for
the
various
items
under
paragraph
four.
That
was
clearly
one
of
them,
but
that
may
be
one
of
them
that
actually
helps
fund
some
of
these
other
things,
the
others,
for
example,
the
legislation
specifically
asked
by
state
legislators
for
the
city
to
take
a
position
on
that
bill.
It
would
be
very
helpful
to
us
to
do
so.
H
I
It
would
have
been
nice
say,
for
instance,
on
the
halt
online
fencing
just
like
we
put
through
other
legislative
priorities.
We've
had
plenty
of
opportunities
to
bring
that
up
as
a
separate
item
and
versus
vet
out
the
entire
memo
in
each
individual
item
today
on
rules
that
was
my,
my
recommendation
was
let's.
Actually,
there
is
a
lot
of
me.
Let's
have
this
conversation
more
thoroughly
and
then
determine
if
there's
something
to
move
forward
sounds
like
timing,
wise
right,
there's
some
things
that
that
could
move
forward.
I
I
would
say
separately,
if
you
think,
there's
an
item
that
should
have
been
on
its
own,
then
maybe
resubmit
it
on
its
own
right
and
and
come
back
with
whether
it's
alleged
priority
or
the
uploading
video
evidence
at
the
moment.
I'm
fine
with
the
the
amendment
that
I've
made
the
remainder
of
it.
I'd
like
to
come
to
our
public
safety
committee
and
and
I'll
leave.
It
at
that.
B
I
It
was
the
the
remainder
of
the
memo
it
was
the
you
know.
I
mean,
as
as
the
original
motion
was,
it
was
really
directing
everything
to
come
to
his
fizz.
Besides
the
amendment
that
I
made
on
on
the
grant
application-
and
I'm
I'm
fine
again
augmenting
if
there
is
another
grant
that
you
know
that
pd
can
apply
for
but
again
I
don't.
We
don't
need
to
give
them
that
that
authority
here.
So
I
would
I'm
fine
giving
that
direction
and
encouragement
in
our
motion
today,
but
the
specificities
of
item
four
there.
I
C
I
I
don't,
I
think
I
I
I
would
do
that
right.
I
was.
I
was
mentioning
that
in
my
motion,
but
I
think
it's
it's
pointless
right.
The
reality
is
is
that
those
items
are
already
coming
forward
to
the
budget
process,
regardless
of
what
we
we
say
today,
because
we've
already
given
that
prior
approval
on
you
know
on
that
to
to
come
to
the
budget.
So
I
I
don't
think
it
needs
to
be
part
of
the
motion.
A
H
We're
ready
to
make
sure
we're
talking
about
them.
There's
a
grant
funding
opportunities
announced
in
november
of
2021
by
attorney
general
bona
and
the
governor.
I
I
couldn't
tell
you
the
precise
name
of
the
grant
I'd
be
happy
to
look
that
up.
H
B
Okay
and
councilmember
cohen,.
C
The
memo
was
so
broad
with
so
many
things
that
if
there
were
specific
grants
or
things
that
we
wanted
to
talk
about,
I
think
there
should
be
a
new
rate
of
specific
action
items,
but
the
only
mention
in
the
entire
set
of
actions
about
grants
says
return
through
the
budget
process
to
discuss
how
to
allocate
state
grants
for
businesses
seeking
to
install
surveillance
cameras.
There's
nothing
in
the
memo
that
says
we
should
apply
for
grants,
so
it's
under
4d
secure
funding
for
local
anti,
okay,
okay,
it's
not
this!
The
word
grant
isn't
in
that.
C
C
B
All
right,
I
think
that
was
the
last
comment.
Unless
someone
wants
to
beat
this
dead
horse
anymore,
so
we
will
go
to
tony
for
a
roll
call
vote.
Please.
C
G
All
right,
thank
you
interesting
conversation
thanks
a
lot.
I
think
it
is
always
important
to
consider
open
public
policies
and
accountability
with
technology.
The
civil
rights
and
civil
protections
can
be
of
help
a
lot
in
your
decision
making.
I
wanted
to
comment
on.
I
think,
yesterday's
meeting
that
it
was
you
know
there
was
an
item
from
the
city
attorney
about
the
closed
session
report
working
with
community
energy
items
and
pg
e
in
our
future.
G
G
I
think-
and
so
I
for
the
past
two
weeks
during
the
city,
attorney's
rep,
closed
session
report
and
city
management
report,
they're
very
long
detailed
reports,
there's
no
space
for
public
comment
at
that
time,
which
I
find
odd
and
I've
been
saying
you
know
for
the
past
few
months
now
you
know
we
can
really
have
a
way
to
have
public
comment
at
you
know
a
one
minute
public
comment
at
a
closed
session
report
and
public
and
city
managers
report.
G
If
they
are
speaking
on
that
day
as
a
way
to
you
know
it
it's
it's.
It's
practicing
good
public
meeting
practices
right
now,
you're
saying
no.
You
want
a
more
efficient
public
meeting
process
that
is
dissing
and
disrespecting
how
the
public
should
have
a
voice
at
that
time.
I
think
we
really
have
to
work
on
this
issue.
I've
been
doing
letters
on
this
subject
for
months
now
and
I
hope
we
can
continue
this
conversation
in
our
future.
G
I
want
to
continue
the
conversation
you
know
for
all
the
good
ideas
of
reimagine
and
worker
rights
issues,
tenants
rights
issues
I
want
to
mention
medicare
for
all.
More
often
I'm
sorry,
I
don't.
I
will
try
to
do
that
and
good
luck,
how
we
can
really
consider
paul's
soto
case
that
I
think
we
all
have
to
really
work
on
address
in
our
future.
Thank
you.
A
F
Are
we
an
open
forum
yet?
Yes,
excellent?
This
is
my
favorite
time
of
the
day
I
like,
when
you
guys,
say
yes
to
open
porn
because
well
then
I
don't
get
squ.
My
ideas,
don't
get
squelched.
You
know
you
guys.
Don't
kick
me
off
you
don't
you
know
all
of
a
sudden
find
some
reason
to
stop.
You
know
for
me
to
stop
talking.
I
I
know
I
know
I
must
be
dangerous
to
the
city
hall
down
there,
but
I
just
like
I
say
you
need
more
overnight
patrols
for
the
crime.
F
You
know
many
cars
are
stolen
in
this
in
san
jose
many.
But
meanwhile
I
don't
know
the
city
council
likes
to
focus
on
facilitating
abortions
across
state
lines
for
pregnant
minors.
I
mean
some
of
the
pimper.
Madam,
would
do
that's
what
you
focus
on.
That's
disgusting,
really
it
is
I
you
know,
since
I
got
the
planned
parenthood
lecture
from
everybody
on
city
council,
they
made
sure
to
voice
their
concerns
about
that.
F
I
think
that
right
there
is
a
reason
why
we
have
so
much
crime
because
you
focus
on
what's
going
on
thousands
and
thousands
of
miles
away.
Meanwhile,
cars
are
getting
stolen,
like
my
car
got
stolen.
So
what
you
need
to
do
is
focus
on
midnight
to
six
shifts,
not
traffic
enforcement
and
speed
cameras
and
gun
control,
and
you
know
I
mean
all
these
hitleristic
things.
I
mean
think
about
what
you
guys
do
it's
it's
like.
It's
like
yeah
yeah.
It's
like
a
nazi
meeting
down
there
with
you
guys.
B
F
Control
cameras
everywhere,
you
know
code
enforcement
everywhere,
you
guys
should
be
ashamed
of
yourself.
Every
single
one
of
you.
You
should
hang
your
head
in
shame
for
what
you
do
to
this
city
and
what
you
did
to
paul
soto.
I
can't
believe
what
you
I
mean
come
on
man,
you
guys
you
guys
are
going
after
the
bottom
of
the
barrel.