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City of San José, California
Joint meeting of Rules and Open Government / Committee of the Whole of April 20, 2022
Pre-meeting citizen input on Agenda via eComment at https://sanjose.granicusideas.com/meetings.
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A
A
A
B
B
A
D
C
Yeah,
it
looks
like
we've,
given
him
permission
to
talk,
but
there's
something
going
on
on
his
end,
so
james
you
might
need
to
sign
out
and
sign
back
in
and
try
updating
your
software.
Maybe
it's
not
telling
us.
You
need
to
update
your
software,
but
we
don't
know.
What's
going
on.
A
C
A
Was
the
only
hand
up
for
this
item,
okay
and
if
he
can
get
it
worked
out,
we'll
allow
him
to
speak
later
on
this
agenda.
Okay,
bringing
it
back
to
the
committee
I'll
move
approval
of
the
agenda.
F
A
A
G
Yes,
okay,
so
when
you
guys
were
calling
him
earlier,
I
just
my
salon
is
loud,
so
I
decided
to
come
over
to
max
so
we're
together.
So
whatever
you
want
to
ask,
did
you
go
by
james?
C
G
A
Okay,
so
we're
very
clear
that
he's
here
and
you're
here
so
thank
you
and
I
have.
C
A
J
Yes,
hi
martha
o'connell
speaking
to
my
letter
in
the
public
record,
it's
over
two
years
since
the
council
voted
unanimously
to
apply
the
mobile
home
park,
designation
to
all
the
parks
in
san
jose
we're
still
waiting
on
that.
All
three
of
the
mayoral
candidates
have
pledged
that
they
are
in
favor
of
this
and
they
want
to
get
it
done.
So
I'm
asking
you
to
move
forward.
This
letter
was
written
before
I
found
out
about
sergio
hemenos's
memo.
I
I
asked
what
it
was.
J
I
haven't
had
a
response
yet
from
their
office,
but
hopefully
we
can
get
this
done.
I
would
also
point
out
that
the
housing
commission
unanimously
voted
on
november
18th
of
2021
that
this
this
move
forward.
So
please
make
it
happen.
Just
a
quick
comment
on
council
person
carrasco's
memo.
I
thank
her
for
drawing
my
attention
to
the
fact
that
commissioners
can
be
removed
without
cause,
and
I
really
have
a
problem
with
that
because
I
think
it
might
get
into.
A
Martha,
I'm
sorry
you're
speaking
to
an
item.
That's
further
down
on
the
agenda.
A
K
Hi,
thank
you,
claire
beekman,
here,
to
comment
on
the
item
about
the
study
session,
extending
municipal
voting
eligibility
to
all
city
residents.
I
hope
there
can
be
some
sort
of
I
think
I
mentioned
it
before
when
this
item
came
up
a
way
that
we
can
be
also
be
able
to
talk
about
the
concepts
of
england,
english,
only
language
issues
that
is
really
relevant,
prevalent
in
how
we
conduct
business
of
government
in
san
jose.
K
These
were
english-only
laws
were
really
reinforced
in
the
mid-1980s
and
I
think
they
really
need
to
be
questioned.
I
think
it
needs
to
be
a
part
of
the
process,
because
I
think
english-only
laws
at
this
point
is
inhibiting
a
more
free-flowing
interesting
way
to
I
don't
know
just
the
way
we
can
work
as
a
society.
I
feel
I
feel
it's
boxing
out
actually
a
lot
of
people
from
from
participating
in
the
process,
and
it's
sad
that
that
happens,
and
I
I
wish
there
was
ways
we
could.
We
could
do
this.
K
I
I
don't
know
the
depth
of
english,
only
laws,
but
I
know
they're
being
questioned,
and
I
think
we
can
all
agree
that
three
hundred
dollars
an
hour
for
zoom
language
interpretation
is
is
astronomical
and
we
could
do
better
than
that.
K
Those
laws
are
specifically
there
to
inhibit
free-flowing
language
participation,
and
why
are
we
doing
that?
I
think
that
really
has
to
be
a
part
of
this.
The
future
future
voting
eligibility
for
the
future
of
all
residents,
and
that
has
to
be,
I
hope,
really
a
part
of
this
conversation
coming
up
at
this
study
session.
Thank
you.
L
Great,
thank
you.
I'm
also
here
to
speak
about
the
upcoming
voting
for
all
study
session.
That
is
going
to
be
happening.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
it
is
extended
to
a
friday
afternoon
after
5
p.m.
Working
families
like
myself,
it
makes
it
very
hard
to
be
on
calls
in
the
morning
time
you
know,
or
even
right
now
I
have
to
step
outside
my
roll.
L
Take
my
15
minutes
to
make
this
call
and
be
on
it,
and
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
it
is
available,
besides
also
having
the
language
accessibility,
which
should
be
something
that
the
tartar
review
put
forward
and
was
very
much
an
advocacy
of
that.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
also
provide
times
where
it's
accessible
and
available
for
families
and
everyone
that
can
join
again,
making
it
very
hard
for
families,
and
especially
you
know,
especially
having
people
talk
about
marginalized
communities.
L
I
think
this
is
a
way
of
making
sure
that
accessibility
to
those
marginalized
communities
gets
open
right.
Many
of
you
and
a
council
members
talk
about
marginalized
communities
and
how
the
communities
have
been
affected,
but
yet,
when
it's
time
to
give
them
the
priority
and
provide
them
with
accessible
times
of
sexual
dates
and
language,
it's
not
there.
So
I
want
to
encourage
everyone.
L
All
council
members
to
please
put
the
study
session
to
a
time
or
make
another
study
session
to
a
time
that
it's
accessible,
that
is
on
a
friday
afternoon,
where
many
of
us
are
at
have
that
accessibility
to
join
and
also
the
language
having
that
in
a
language
that
can
be
accessible
to
them,
whether
it's
spanish
vietnamese
tagalog
whatever.
That
is
please
I
highly
want
to
advocate
for
that.
Thank
you.
G
Hi,
I
just
I
I'm
just
curious,
because
I
don't
think
I
was
quite
aware
of
the
extent
of
this
meeting.
I
I
agree
with
the
last
few
speakers
on
everything
that
they've
said.
I
am
here
for
the
post
street
closure,
part
of
it
and
I'm
very
interested
in
all
things,
san
jose
and
accessibility
for
everybody,
and
I
agree
that
we
need
translators,
especially
on
our
block.
G
G
A
Yes,
that's
that's
an
item.
That's
coming
up
on
the
agenda
right
now
we're
on
the
consent
calendar,
but
that
is
an
agenda
item
that
we
will
be
discussing.
Okay,.
G
Okay,
sorry,
because
I
can't
I'm
not
used
to
this,
how
long
do
we
think
that
this
is
going
to
be
and
I'm
not
trying
to
rush
anybody,
but
like
the
last
person
that
spoke,
I
I
am
on
a
schedule.
So
just
if
I
need
to
move
clients,
I
need
to
know.
C
G
I
Yeah,
hello,
how
are
you
my
name?
Is
roy
mendoza,
I'm
collingwood
amigos
of
guadalupe,
I'm
a
community
navigator
and
I'm
here
to
advocate
the
we
need
to
move
the
study
session,
at
least
to
5
p.m,
because,
as
you
can
hear,
people
has
to
move
the
schedules
around.
I
Our
community
normally
goes
to
work,
okay
with
hard-working
people
and
the
mothers
also
taking
the
kids
to
school.
So
I'm
urging
the
the
committee
to
please
please
rethink
the
time
of
the
study
session.
So
that
way
you
can
give
us
a
voice
and
give
us
a
fair
chance
to
to
pass
these
voting
rights,
because
it's
very
important
for
everybody
to
have
a
voice.
I
We've
been
in
the
shadows
too
long,
okay,
and
this
is
an
opportunity
that
all
city
councils
have
in
the
hands.
The
carrasco
and
arenas
has
been
given
to
you,
okay
and
a
silver
platter,
to
make
a
change
in
san
jose.
If
you
want
san
jose
to
be
a
smart
city
by
2040,
you
need
to
start
here
now.
The
community
needs
to
be
in
this
session
and
you
need
to
make
it
available
for
everybody-
okay,
not
just
for
some
of
us,
but
for
everybody.
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
and
enjoy
my
time
thanks.
I
Also
speaking,
on
behalf
of
the
staying
the
or
shifting
the
time
for
the
evening,
regarding
the
you
know
the
study
session,
it
is
currently
at
a
time
that's
inaccessible
to
many,
as
established
in
the
mention
is
currently
a
time
where
people
are
dropping
off
their
kids
at
school.
I
In
the
evening,
it's
most
ideal,
not
just
for
our
community
members
for
all
of
san
jose,
to
be
able
to
attend
and
hear
about
this
recommendation
to
expand
the
vote
to
all
of
someone
said
even
an
issue
that
would
impact
all
of
someone
says.
So,
as
I
mentioned,
I
urge
the
city
council
members
to
move
the
time
to
5
pm,
whether
it
be
a
friday
or
any
day
of
the
week.
It
is
the
most
successful
time
for
our
community
members.
It
will
be
the
best
way
for
you
all
to
continue
to
symbolize.
I
The
fact
that
someone
said
is
an
inclusive
space
and
is
a
space
for
all
estate
community
members
to
be
engaged
in
a
civic
manner,
and
so
again,
like
I
mentioned,
you
know,
move
forward.
We
move
the
time
to
5
p.m
and
next
day
we
look
forward
to
being
present
there
as
well
now
you're
the
rest
of
my
time.
M
Hello,
my
name
is
arisely
gutierrez
and
I'm
here
with
on
behalf
of
the
apostles
committee
from
sacred
heart,
and
I'm
also
here
to
encourage
and
ask
the
council
to
move
the
voting
rights
study
sessions
to
an
accessible
time
to
the
community,
especially
communities.
That
would
be
most
impacted
by
this
change
in
the
city
and
I'm
encouraging
to
move
it
to
a
friday
evening.
M
C
I
Yes,
my
name
is
gustavo
flores,
I'm
part
of
thomas
my
affair
with
the
sinosa,
and
I
actually
have
the
reason
why
I'm
going
now
is
to
please
urge
to
extend
the
vote
statistic
to
to
friday
at
5
pm,
because
the
current
person
that
you
already
have
is
it's
impossible
for
the
working
people.
So
we
also,
we
only
want
to
please
change
the
time
and
also,
I
think
we
do
need
in
translator.
Spanish.
I
think
we
do
have
the
right
of
this
revolution,
and
I
know
many
people
speak
spanish.
I
I
I
Hello
good
afternoon,
my
name
is
david
vivanco,
and
I
also
concur
with
gustavo
and
a
few
others
as
well.
I
myself
am
currently
also
taking
my
15
to
be
in
here
and
I
would
like
it
to
be
changed
to
5
pm,
where
it's
more
accessible
for
everybody.
I
There
is
a
chance.
If
I
don't,
I
can
get
in
trouble
due
to
my
work
for
being
on
the
phone
during
this
time.
So
I
would
like
to
please
suggest,
suggested
to
switch
it
to
a
more
accessible
time,
either
5
p.m
any
other
day.
That
would
be
great,
and
that
would
help
a
lot
of
people,
and
now
I
like
to
hear
a
lot
more
from
the
community,
so
you
can
get
you
guys,
opinion
I'd
like
to
give
them
my
time.
Thank
you.
C
C
O
Hi
everyone
yeah.
I
just
wanted
to
start
off
by
saying
it's
really
weird-
that
there
is
an
interpreter
when
there's
an
item
on
the
agenda
that
specifically
impacts
the
immigrant
community.
O
And
also,
I
want
to
echo
everything
sorry,
I'm
with
psl
party
for
socialism
and
liberation.
I
want
to
echo
everything
everyone
said
so
far.
I
think
it's
so
important
that
the
majority
of
your
constituents
are
working.
Class
people
and
being
working
class
means
that
you're
working
generally
nine
to
five
or
different
schedules,
and
so
we
really
I'm
sure
you
can
understand
that.
We're
really
tired
of
politicians
really
using
the
word
accessibility
or
inclusivity
as
kind
of
like
calls,
but
not
really.
I
O
On
them,
if
we
truly
want
to
be
inclusive,
we
have
to
change
the
time
to
5
p.m.
Really,
that's
the
time
that's
going
to
be
most
accessible
to
people,
and
I
also
think
it's
super
super
important
that
we
have
the
interpreters
available,
not
just
in
these
study
sessions,
but
really
in
all
of
these
meetings.
O
If
this
is
an
opportunity
to
engage
in
democracy-
and
we
should
be
doing
that
in
a
way-
that's
accessible
to
everybody's
language,
really,
it
is
the
the
immigrant
community
that
really
makes
this
society
function
and
brings
food
to
our
table
and
and
does
the
work,
and
so
I
think
that
we
need
to
acknowledge
them
and
we
need
to
be
able
to
again
make
this
accessible
for
them.
Do
the
rest
of
my
time.
Thank
you.
O
H
We
have
hundreds
of
community
members
who
would
like
to
weigh
in
with
public
comment
at
the
study
session.
However,
they
will
not
be
able
to
attend
due
to
work.
Changing
the
start.
Time
of
the
study
session
to
5
pm
will
give
more
working
families
the
opportunity
to
participate
by
changing
the
start
time
of
the
council
study
session.
The
council
and
our
city
will
be
expanding
democracy
and
would
give
working
families
the
opportunity
to
participate
in
civic
participation,
which
is
really
at
the
core
of
this
policy.
H
So
again,
in
closing,
I
urge
the
council
to
please
change
the
start
time
of
the
council
study
session
to
a
weekday
at
5
pm.
Thank
you.
N
Hi,
can
you
hear
me?
Yes?
Yes,
my
name
is
leticia
alvarez.
I
work
for
sacramento
community
service
supporting
pastors
committee,
and
we
are
here
in
support
of
moving
the
session
the
study
session
in
the
afternoon.
Many
of
our
families
cannot
make
it
at
9
nine
a.m
and
they
are
really
really
wanted
to
be
part
of
this
discussion.
I
wanted
to
continue
learning
about
our
city,
please.
N
N
B
I
should
be
fine,
and
then
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
okay,
good
evening,
my
name
is
delisa
gonzalez,
I'm
I
work
and
live
in
san
jose,
but
I'm
also
a
community
organizer
with
nuestra
bosa
iboto
committee.
B
I
am
here
to
request
for
the
body
statistics
stud
study
session
to
be
moved
for
may
6
at
5
pm.
This
is
to
echo
everything
that
my
community
has
already
said,
but
also
to
echo
that
there's
a
need
if
we
want
to
be
transparent,
engage
and
engage
the
people
that
are
really
going
to
benefit
or
has
really
a
setting
to
this.
Then
we
need
to
move
it.
Our
parents,
our
community,
are
hard
working
men
and
community
members
that
are
essential
to
our
working.
B
They
are
the
ones
that
are
there
early
morning
and
they
are
the
ones
dropping
off
their
their
kids
early
in
the
morning
as
well.
We
need
to
be
more
transparent
and
we
need
to
be
accountable
for
people
to
show
up.
Please
move
the
study
sessions
to
may
six
at
five
pm
and
also
move
any
other
meetings
that
are
up
on
the
are
above
the
voting
rights
to
a
later
time.
B
Like
five
or
after
so
our
community
can
participate,
can
have
a
say
and,
and
these
processes
are
truly
engagement
and
transparency
to
every
single
community
member
out
there.
Thank
you
and
have
a
really
good
day.
P
Hi,
can
you
hear
me
yes,
okay
great,
so
my
name
is
fernando
pero
marciniegas.
I
have
been
a
citizen
of
sunset
for
the
last
25
years.
P
I
work
and
I
study
in
the
city
of
san
jose,
and
the
reason
I'm
here
today
is
because
I
want
to
ask
that
the
city
council
move
the
study
session
to
a
working
day,
that
is,
after
5
00
pm,
when
people
from
the
city
from
all
different
identity,
social
identities
can
participate,
because
if
the
city
of
san
jose
wants
to
make
this
this
process
a
lot
more
equitable
needs
to
actually
take
in
consideration
that
people
that
work
nine
to
five
or
has
to
go
to
school
at
the
at
those
hours.
P
I
also
feel
that
it's
important
to
make
a
comment-
and
I
know
it
has
been
expressed
before
that
this-
this
kind
of
open,
open
conversations
with
the
community
need
to
be
inclusive,
and
I
I
encourage
the
city
to
have
translator
not
only
for
spanish
speakers,
but
also
for
vietnamese
tagalog,
cantonese
and
mandarin,
because
if
you
really
want
to
make
sure
that
san
jose
is
a
city
that
is
inclusive
and
is
looking
and
is
seeking
for
racial
equity,
that
it
wants
to
eliminate
systemic
racial
inequalities,
it
has
to
start
from
making
things
accessible
to
the
public.
P
So
I
will
say
please
to
think
about
making
sure
that
there
are
translators
in
these
meetings
and
also
that
this
kind
of
spaces
are
available
for
people
to
also
work
and
study
in
the
city.
So,
thank
you
so
much
and
I
yield
the
rest
of
my
time.
C
C
I
I
am
I
I've
been
living
here
in
in
san
jose
for
about
20
21
years,
and
I
am
a
painter
and
I
like
to
if
it's
possible,
please
help
help
the
community,
because
we
all
wanna
be
involved
on
this
and
listen
about
the
study
sessions
you
have
and
we
really
want
to
know
what
we
we
can
do
to
help
and
and
if
you
do
this
we'll
be
great
and
all
the
community
will
be
glad
to
hear
that,
and
I
hope
you
can
do
that
and
nice
hole
for
my
for
me
for
me.
I
I
I
The
current
proposed
time
for
the
study
session
is
not
accessible
to
the
working
families
of
san
jose,
which
most
of
them
are
essentials,
worker
also
with
demand
for
all
events
relating
to
expanding
the
board,
to
be
accommodating
to
all
equity
backgrounds
by
providing
translation
and
schedule
an
ideal
time
for
the
community.
Participation
such
as
fridays
at
5
pm
having
study
sessions
or
any
other
public
meetings
from
the
city
at
9
00
am
is
not
inclusive
nor
a
democratic
process.
I
M
L
Many
of
our
community
members
would
be
directly
impacted
with
this
study
session
if
it
was
to
not
be
changed.
A
9
a.m
is
not
accessible
to
most
of
our
community
members,
given
that
most
are
working
families
and
have
children
that
they
must
take
care
of
or
take
to
school.
L
So
if
what
we
are
striving
for
is
to
expand
our
democracy,
then
this
would
be
the
perfect
time
to
start
with
that,
and
that
would
be
to
change
the
study
session
to
make
sure
that
all
community
members
are
part
of
the
process
of
that
we
are
the
change
that
we're
trying
to
to
achieve
here.
So
I
urge
the
committee
to
really
change
the
upcoming
study
session
from
9
a.m,
to
5
00
p.m.
L
Some
afternoon
time
I
believe
it's
not
only
fair,
but
it's
necessary
to
make
it
accessible
to
our
community
members.
Thank
you
and
I
give
up
the
rest
of
my
time.
Talia.
B
B
I
urge
the
committee
to
move
forward
with
rescheduling
the
study
session
to
friday
may
6th
at
5
pm,
and
I
ask
that
all
events
relating
to
expanding
the
vote
be
accommodating
to
all
ethnic
backgrounds
by
providing
translation
and
scheduled
at
an
ideal
time
for
community
participation
such
as
fridays
at
5pm.
I
yield
my
time.
Thank
you.
C
I
C
We'll
come
back
to
rosemary
bermina
reyes.
C
J
C
D
Hi,
can
you
hear
me
yes,
my
name
actually.
My
name
is.
D
You
know
I'm
demanding
to
have
translation
every
meeting
that
you
guys
have
so
we
can
participate.
Thank
you.
B
I
I
I
D
N
C
M
M
This
policy
would
affect
thousands
of
working
people
who
would
not
be
able
to
wait
in
if
the
session
is
kept
at
the
time
where
people
have
to
work.
I
want
to
express
my
true
concern
that
there
is
no
interpreter
in
this
meeting,
and
this
is
the
exact
reason
why
we
need
to
ensure
that
everyone
has
the
opportunity
to
vote.
So
there
is
constant
advocates
for
those
who
have
been
denied
a
voice
in
this
process.
For
so
long,
we
need
interpreters
in
spanish,
vietnamese,
tagalog
and
other
languages
that
are
common
in
san
jose.
M
Please
do
everything
in
your
power
to
move
the
study
session
at
a
time
and
place
that,
in
a
time
that
works
for
working
families,
ideally
after
five,
ideally
on
a
friday
and
in
times
when
individuals
are
able
to
have
a
fair
opportunity
to
participate
in
the
process
of
public
comment,
I
want
to
translate
really
quickly
for
the
community
who's
listening
in
spanish
companies.
My
name
is.
C
C
C
B
Can
you
guys
hear
me?
Yes,
okay,
hello,
my
name
is
esperanza,
I'm
a
youth
part
of
jovenos
activos
and
I
want
to
participate
in
the
voting
rights
study
session.
Please
move
it
to
may
6
at
5
00
pm,
as
well
as
to
any
other
meeting
regarding
to
this,
and
also
we
need
translation
for
these
kind
of
meanings.
I
do
not
have
to
repeat
myself
as
the
youth.
I
find
it
really
offensive
towards
me
and
my
community
and
to
me
to
this
translation.
I
B
O
O
If
passed,
this
policy
would
impact
tens
of
thousands
of
san
jose
residents
and
we
all
should
have
a
voice
in
this
process
by
starting
at
9
00
a.m.
Several
community
members
will
not
have
the
chance
to
add
their
voice
to
this
process
due
to
work.
Changing
the
start.
Time
to
the
study
session
will
ensure
that
we
hear
as
many
voices
as
possible
on
this
important
issue
have
a
day
you
deserve.
I
revoke
my
time.
C
B
M
Good
afternoon
my
name
is
paola
and
I
am
with
amigos,
guadalupe
and
also
part
of
the
vols
retributa
campaign.
I
urge
the
committee
to
move
the
start
time
of
the
study
session
on
expanding
voting
rights
to
all
san
jose
residents
for
an
upcoming
friday
at
5
pm,
to
allow
working
families
to
participate.
M
The
current
proposed
time
for
this
study
session
continues
a
pattern
of
excluding
community
from
the
political
process.
Our
community
wants
to
be
part
of
the
table
and
by
moving
the
start
time
at
5
pm
that
will
help
achieve
this.
Our
community
has,
you
know,
already
suffered
disproportionately
because
of
the
pandemic
physically
mentally
and
especially
financially
as
they
were
work
as
they
were
forced
to
work
on
the
front
lines
tirelessly
during
the
pandemic,
just
to
recover
from
the
financial
hardships
that
they
face.
M
Because
of
this,
our
working
class
family
simply
cannot
afford
to
take
a
day
off
or
even
a
few
hours
of
work
in
order
to
participate
in
meetings
like
this,
so
especially
because
of
the
fact
that
these
study
sessions
also
greatly
affect
them.
The
most
not
allowing
an
accessible
time
for
them
to
weigh
in
is
not
inclusive,
and
it
also
is
unacceptable.
M
So,
once
again,
I
urge
the
council
to
move
the
study
session
times
to
5
pm.
Thank
you
guys,.
C
C
D
B
I
B
Oh
sorry,
if
there's
music
in
the
back
I'll
turn
it
off
hello,
my
name
is
maria.
I
am
a
youth
and
I
want
to
participate
in
the
voting
rights
study
session.
Please
make
it
make
it
to
may
6th
at
5
00
pm,
as
well
as
any
other
meeting
regarding
this.
Thank
you.
C
We're
going
to
try
estrada
again.
A
Thank
you
tony.
So
I
see
council
member
perales
go
ahead.
E
Yeah,
thank
you
very
much
vice
mayor,
so
I
also
had
a
conversation
with
some
of
the
advocates
last
week
and
they
expressed
to
me
the
the
same
interest
on
wanting
to
see
if
we
could
change
the
time
of
this
meeting,
I
expressed
to
them
that
it
was
highly
unlikely
that
we
simply
moved
it
to
5
pm
on
that
friday,
as
fridays
at
5
have
not
worked
for
us
as
a
council
for
for
study
sessions
or
meetings,
but
I
did
express
to
them
that
what
we
have
done
in
the
past
is
actually
tuesday
evenings.
E
We
have
done
study
sessions
for
our
our
evening
session
on
tuesdays
and
that
we
could
have
that
happen
after
5
p.m,
and
I
know
that
we
may
have
a
tuesday
coming
up
where
whether
we
have
a
lighter
agenda-
or
we
don't
have
an
evening
session
where
we
can
schedule
it.
So
I
wanted
to
ask
city
the
city
managers
officer
lee.
If
you
could
suggest
a
potential
tuesday
evening
where
we
could
reschedule
this
meeting.
F
Thank
you,
councilmember
perales,
looking
at
the
horizon
report
now,
and
I
would
ask
tony
to
jump
in,
I
think
either
putting
it
on
the
may
3rd
or
the
mate.
Well
now
may
10th
already
has
a
night
meeting,
so
I
think
your
opportunity
is
probably
may
3rd
or
may
17th
for
that
night,
and
I
say
that
because
you
know
it
obviously
would
be
easier
to
find
time
in
august
because
may
and
june
get
fairly
backed
up.
But
it's
my
understanding.
F
It's
not
only
the
policy
call
for
you
guys,
but
in
tony's
initial
research
into
this.
F
It's
something
that
we
need
to
stand
up
a
new
department
and
do
voting
such
as
the
county.
So
I
think
there's
a
pretty
big
cost
to
this
and
we
want
you
guys
to
understand
that
as
you
go
into
the
budget
process
so
that
that
was
not
an
obstacle,
so
I
would
recommend,
may
3rd
or
may
17th
yeah.
C
This
is
tony's
city
clerk.
I
had
lined
up
a
few
people
to
speak
at
that
meeting,
so
may
17th
would
give
me
time
to
make
sure
that
they
can
clear
their
their
evenings
on
that
night.
One
of
them
is
a
professor.
I
don't
know
if
he
has
classes
on
tuesdays.
I
can
double
check,
but
may
17th
would
just
allow
me
allow
the
the
people
I've
scheduled
some
extra
time
to
make
sure
their
calendars
are
clear.
E
Okay,
I
I
am
fine
with
that
date
as
the
reschedule
that
we
can
make
that
definitive
here
today
and
and
let
the
community
know
as
well
and
then
that
way,
hopefully
that'll
be
the
the
date
that
we
moved
to
and
then
I'll
just
I'm
just
going
to
mention
what
I've
asked
for
here
in
spanish
for
our
speakers
that
are
they're
on.
E
Momento
okay
that'll,
be.
My
motion,
then,
is
that
we
just
all
I'll
move
that
we
accept
the
consent
calendar,
but
we
move
the
date
of
this
study
session
to
may
17th
in
the
evening.
A
All
right,
it's
been
moving
a
second,
it
don't
see
any
other
hands
raised.
So
tony
come
in.
A
I
I
My
name
is
nate
leblanc,
I'm
the
business
development
manager
at
the
san
jose
downtown
association,
calling
in
today
to
say
that
we
support
the
memo
and
that
we
would
ask
that
you
forward
it
to
the
full
council
for
consideration
and
just
to
kind
of
publicly
state
that
sjda
will
continue
to
work
with
city
departments,
various
stakeholders
and,
of
course,
our
member
businesses,
to
try
to
find
a
solution
that
works
for
as
many
people
as
possible.
I
We,
you
know,
we
know
that
this
is
a
difficult
issue
for
some
people,
but
that
we
believe
in
the
vision
that's
set
out
in
the
memo
and
we're
going
to
try
to
help
make
it
a
reality
if
it
is
indeed
past,
and
we
urge
you
to
forward
it
to
the
full
council
for
approval.
Thank
you
very
much.
Q
No
worries
hi
everyone.
My
name
is
eric
nielsen,
I'm
actually
the
one
of
the
owners
of
55
south
on
first
and
post
street,
I'm
also
the
chairman
for
the
historic
district
committee
for
downtown
association.
I
just
wanted
to
publicly
first
thank
the
committee
and
thank
the
council
for
allowing
alfresco
in
the
first
place.
The
pandemic
has
obviously
been
a
nightmare
on
most
businesses,
but
especially
us
in
the
hospitality
arena
and
the
alfresco
program
and
being
able
to
close
post.
G
Q
Has
been
a
huge
life-saving
line
to
us
available
so
moving.
K
Q
I
A
F
Yes,
thank
you.
Vice
mayor,
the
administration
did
prepare
an
early
consideration
form
and
highlighted
that
yellow
there
still
is
some
fire
and
safety
analysis
that
needs
to
happen,
as
well
as
a
legal
interpretation.
We
still
don't
know
what
the
state
is
going
to
do
with
their
emergency
order
and
what
legal
tools
and
rationale
that
we'll
have
to
proceed
on
this,
although
I
do
think
that
we'll
have
some
and
then
lastly,
there
is
a
funding
element
related
to
infrastructure
that
you
know
we
need
to
better
understand.
So.
F
Staff
recommends
that
the
rules
committee
direct
us
to
develop
a
manager's
budget
addendum
with
this
analysis,
for
the
council's
consideration.
E
Yeah,
thank
you
as
well
lee
for
the
report
back
on
the
early
consideration
form,
and
I
know
we
had
a
number
of
more
speakers
lined
up
but
weren't
able
to
stick
around.
But
I
want
to
thank
those
that
they
were
willing
to
come
out
to
speak
and
those
that
wrote
in
as
well
and
and
thank
you
to
staff
specifically
blagey
who's
here.
Who's
been
putting
in
the
hard
work
since
the
pandemic
began
on
the
al
fresco
program
altogether,
and
I
know
likely
most
of
us
here
on
the
committee.
E
Just
like
community
members
that
live
or
work
downtown
or
even
those
that
have
visited,
have
been
able
to
experience
the
closure
on
san
pedro
square
as
well
as
post
street,
and
recognize
that
we've
heard
nothing
but
really
positive
feedback
from
our
community.
And
I
know
that
I've
heard
that
from
colleagues
on
the
council
as
well.
E
And
for
for
me
this
was
a
vision.
A
number
of
years
before
the
pandemic,
on
looking
at
creating
some
more
open
streets
or
closed
streets,
essentially
but
open
to
to
the
community
open
to
the
public.
E
Rather
than
for
vehicles
and
being
able
to
create
vibrant
areas,
especially
in
some
of
our
our
commercial
corridors,
and
we
actually
initiated
a
pilot
process
on
san
pedro
street
and
we're
working
on
one
on
poe
street
and
prior
to
the
to
the
pandemic,
we
had
a
number
of
special
events
that
we
have
seen
closures,
whether
it's
sharks,
events
in
the
playoff
runs
or
super
bowl
50,
where
we
were
to
pilot
some
work
out
there,
viva,
caye
and
and
ultimately
the
pilot
closure
among
san
pedro
did
that
I
was
able
to
get
funded
back
in
2019,
but
nothing
greater
than
the
last
two
years
of
of
the
alfresco
program.
E
Here.
Citywide.
That
has
given
us
an
opportunity
to
be
able
to
see
how
we
can
transform
these
streets
that
traditionally
were
just
for
the
vehicle
and
open
them
up
for
the
community.
The
greater
community
for
the
success
of
our
businesses,
for
something
that
we
lack
too
much
of
outdoor
dining
in
in
our
city
and
the
continued
vibrancy
of
downtown,
which
was
so
vital
over
the
past
two
years.
E
And
if
it
wasn't
for
these
outdoor
dining
spaces
really
would
have
would
have
struggled
and
a
number
of
businesses
would
have
would
have
struggled
to
survive
and
what
we
see
out
in
san
pedro
square,
where
we've
seen
people
walking
biking,
patronizing,
our
local
businesses,
and
that
that
continues
today.
Fortunately,
but
is
why
I'm
I'm
coming
to
you,
because
it's
potentially
looming
that
it
may
may
end
like
we
saw
on
post
street
and
actually
following
the
reopening
of
post
street
to
vehicles.
E
I
imagine
some
of
you
may
have
heard
as
well,
but
we
saw
a
really
strong
community
reaction,
calling
and
demanding
that
we
close
the
street
back
down
and-
and
that's
that's
exciting.
That's
what
we
wanted
right.
We
we've
wanted
to
create
these
vibrant
spaces
and
I
think,
there's
no
greater
streets
that
make
most
sense
than
san
pedro
and
post
street
and,
as
you
potentially
saw
in
the
the
letters
and
then
certainly
the
two
public
commenters.
But
I
know
we
had
a
number
more.
E
E
We
feel
a
way
we
can
move
forward
and
really
make
a
definitive
decision
as
a
council
in
what
we
can
do
and
and
that's
got
some
some
looming
time
limit
to
it
as
well,
because
june
30th,
the
local
emergency
order,
is
set
to
expire,
and
if
we
don't
have
a
permanent
closure
lined
up
on
san
pedro
street,
then
that's
going
to
be
reopened
just
like
poe
street
was,
and
rather
than
wait
until
that
11th
hour,
to
have
the
discussion
and,
quite
frankly,
rather
than
wait
until
the
budget
discussions
in
an
mba
which
would
put
us
at
that
11th
hour.
E
I
was
hoping
that
we
could
have
a
discussion
earlier,
determine
where
the
will
of
the
council
is
ultimately,
I
would
agree.
It
would
require
an
mba
and
a
budget
discussion
and
some
approval
there.
But
I
think
that
hearing
the
will
of
the
council-
because
there
are
some
very
difficult
decisions
to
be
made
here-
there's
some
investments
that
we
would
have
to
make
to
make
this
permanent.
E
E
That
includes
what
I'm
suggesting
now,
which
would
be
thursday
evening
through
sunday,
but
I
would
like
to
get
that
understanding
from
the
council,
which
is
why
I
still
want
to
move
forward
with
agendiziness
for
next
week's
council
agenda,
recognizing
that
an
mba
would
come
after
that,
and
so
I'm
hoping
to
get
the
support
of
my
colleagues
here
to
do
just
that.
So
I
will
move
my
memorandum.
Thank
you.
A
R
Thank
you,
and
I
want
to
thank
councilmember
for
bringing
this
forward.
I
think
it
is
really
important
for
us
to
take
action
sooner
rather
than
later.
First
of
all,
it
will
avoid
unnecessary
staff
work
if
there
isn't
support
for
this,
although
I
will
say
I
do
support
it,
I
think
it
just
makes
sense
for
san
pedro
to
be
a
pedestrian
mall
or
whatever.
R
I
think
that's
what
it's
called
and-
and
I
want
to
hear
more
about
poe
street-
I
know
less
about
that
area
and
I
think
that
it
was
maybe
not
as
universally
accepted
or
unanimously
accepted.
So
I
want
to
hear
about
that
and
I
want
to
hear
from
the
business
owner.
R
I
think
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
have
this
discussion,
as
I
said
sooner
rather
than
later,
because
I
don't
want
to
open
san
pedro
and
then
close
it
again.
I
think
we
need
to
figure
out
a
way
to
keep
it
to
keep
it
closed,
because
there
are
all
the
businesses
that
are
out
there
have
furniture
out.
R
There
have
tables
out
there
all
that
kind
of
stuff
needing
having
to
figure
out
where
that
stuff
is
going
to
go
and
and
store
it
or
or
dispose
of
it
temporarily
just
doesn't
makes
it
just
doesn't
make
sense
we're
trying
to
bring
back
our
downtown.
I
there
are
areas
of
our
downtown
that
have
just
been
devastated
by
covid,
and
we
want
the
areas
that
are
vibrant
to
remain
vibrant.
So
I
think
this
is
a
really
important
step
in
that
direction,
and
I
look
forward
to
having
this
discussion
as
a
full
council
next
week.
Thank
you.
E
Yeah,
thank
you,
councilmember
davis
and,
and
I
I
appreciate
your
support.
I
know
you
were
very
proud
of
being
able
to
champion
our
closed
streets
throughout
the
city,
and
that
has
been
very
successful
and
I
would
say
if
we
can
end
that
program
with
a
permanent
closure
of
san
pedro.
E
It's
a
tremendous
success
and
if
we
can't,
I
think
it's
a
tremendous
failure.
Honestly,
I
think
that
we
we
lose
the
you
know
the
opportunity
to
really
have
something
beneficial
out
of
the
alberto
program
and
if
we
can't
do
it
on
san
pedro
street,
if
I'm
a
community
member,
I
would
assume
that
the
city
can't
do
it
anywhere,
and
so
I
I
appreciate
your
support
there
and
I
would
I
just
echo
one
thing,
but
I
think
we
can.
E
We
can
save
most
the
conversation
for
next
week,
but
I
a
number
of
the
businesses.
There
are
very
much
concern
exactly
what
you
talked
about.
They're
wondering
you
know:
do
they
do
they
invest
in
you
know,
making
or
purchasing
better
furniture
for
outside
or
there's
some
that
actually
haven't
taken
advantage
of
it.
Yet
because
they've
assumed
that
we
were
just
going
to
reopen
the
street
so
there's
some
that
are
waiting
for
this
decision
to
determine.
E
Is
the
council
really
going
to
close
down
this
street
permanently
or
not
and-
and
I
think
that's
where
I
think
that
we
need
to
to
send
a
strong
message
and
be
able
to
give
that
assurance
and
and
again
I
think
if
we
can't
do
it
on
san
pedro
street,
then
then,
where
can
we
actually
do
it
so
so
appreciate
your
support
and
I
look
forward
to
the
conversation
next
week.
R
No,
I
just
wanted
to
say
I
I
think,
having
alfresco
be
permanent,
is
really
important.
It's
been
something
that
the
businesses
on
lincoln
avenue
have
have.
Really,
you
know
said,
is
important
to
them
to
to
remain
even
even
post
covet
and
even
as
people
are,
are
able
to
be
dining
back
inside
having
that
outside
option
is
well
utilized
in
in
many
areas.
I
know
not
just
on
lincoln
avenue,
and
so
I
I
absolutely
agree
it
is
important
for
alfresco
to
be
permanent
and
and
the
permanent
closure
on
san
pedro
just
makes
the
most
sense.
F
This,
but
I
just
wanted
to
ask
whether
we
want
to
go
back
the
one
public
commenter
who
spoke
earlier
and
was
concerned.
I
G
Thank
you.
I
actually
really
appreciate
that,
because
we
were
under
the
understanding
that
this
was
going
to
be
about
the
post
street
and
san
pedro's
foreclosure.
I
do
want
to
thank
everybody
that
spoke
on
behalf
of
the
meeting,
and
I
agree
that
we
need
translators
and
there
are
a
lot
of
people
that
are
underrepresented
in
this
community.
G
I
feel
like
these
could
have
definitely
been
two
separate
meetings.
That
being
said,
I
am
the
owner
of
page
boy,
which
is
a
salon
on
post
street.
My
salon
was
closed
for
nine
months.
G
G
So
I
would
not
benefit
necessarily
from
a
closure,
because
I
am
not
a
restaurant
or
a
bar,
but
I
see
what
it
does
do
for
my
community.
I
saw
families
walking
through
people
with
their
dogs.
I
I
saw
people,
they
don't
normally
see
on
the
street,
and
so
I
think
it
was
great
when
it
was
closed
and
another
thing
is
more.
F
A
A
S
Vice
mayor-
yes,
I
this
is,
this
is
councilmember
crossco
for
some
reason.
I
raised
my
hand
and
I'm
you.
S
Good
afternoon,
council,
colleagues
and
good
afternoon
vice
mayor,
thank
you
for
having
me
here.
I
guess
now
they
changed
my
name
all
right.
Well,
it
was
nice
being
you
for
all
of
10
seconds.
S
S
Policies
have
been
changed
that
will
that
that
changes,
the
charters
in
terms
of
how
we,
how
we
govern
that
commission,
in
other
words,
that's
the
oh,
that's
one
of
the
only
commissions
that
is
not
aligned
with
the
rest
of
the
commissions.
We
cannot
remove
a
single
commissioner
for
any
reason,
because
it's
governed
by
the
charter,
unless
we
decide
to
align
it
with
the
rest
of
the
commissions.
S
In
other
words,
we
can
go
ahead
and
remove
a
commissioner
from
the
art
commission
from
the
library
commission,
from
the
early
childhood
development
commission
from
even
the
civil
service
commission.
But
we
cannot
remove
a
commissioner
from
what
I
consider
to
be
one
of
the
most
powerful
commissions,
the
planning
commission,
for
any
reason
whatsoever,
because
it
is
governed
by
the
charter
and
nora
is
here.
If
you
have
any
further
questions,
she
can
explain
it
much
more
eloquently
and
articulate
and
articulate
that
than
I
can.
S
But
this
came
as
a
huge
surprise
to
me
for
a
number
of
reasons.
Now,
for
those
of
you
who
are
concerned
that
this
might
impact
any
of
the
commissioners
are
currently
on
the
commission.
It
does
not
because
this
would
have
to
go
actually
to
the
voters
in
november
if
we
decided
to
go
ahead
and
align
this
commission
with
the
rest
of
the
commissioners.
It'd
have
to
go
in
november.
S
The
voters
would
have
to
vote
that
in,
and
so
we
couldn't,
we
couldn't
make
any
changes
anyway.
Now
we
can
impact
the
current
commissioners
anyway.
Now
so
those
of
you
who
are
supporting
any
of
the
commissioners
and
are
concerned
that
it
might
impact
their
duties
and
responsibilities,
no
worries
no
concerns
there.
The
commissioners
are
safe.
S
This
is
simply
to
align
again
this
commission
with
the
rest
of
the
commissioners
and
give
this
council
or
any
council
moving
forward
the
authority
which
I
believe
we
should
have
to
remove
commissioners
based
on
whatever
reason
we
think
is
appropriate.
Now
we
don't
have
again,
even
if
we
did
have
the
authority
to
remove
them,
we
don't
have
the
authority
to
just
pick
up
a
phone
and
remove
them.
We
still
would
have
to
vote
on
it
and
they
still
have
the
right
to
a
hearing.
S
If,
if
that's
correct
nora-
nor
you
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
we
would
still
have
to
vote
to
get
them
released
from
their
from
their
duties,
so
that's
the
memo
before
you.
I
hope
that
you
will
consider
moving
this
forward
so
that
we
can
continue
to
have
this
discussion
at
the
council.
H
Yeah,
I
hope
you
guys
can
keep
with
these
patios
and
closed
streets,
because
now
that
downtown
is
better
than
the
door
we've.
J
Yeah
hi,
martha
o'connell.
I
know
my
comments
aren't
going
to
go
anywhere.
I
know
you're
all
going
to
vote
to
proceed,
which
is
tying
right
in
with
what
I'm
going
to
say
as
to
why
I'm
gravely
concerned
about
this,
which
is
the
issue
of
speech
and
dissent
and
being
a
in
holding
a
minority
opinion
on
a
commission.
J
I
would
thank
commissioner
carrasco
and
I'm
not
being
sarcastic.
I
sincerely
mean
this.
I
I
had
no
idea
that
commissioners
could
be
removed
with
or
without
cause,
and
I
think
this
is
really
scary
and
I
think
the
charter
should
be
changed
to
not
allow
this.
I
know
there
was
a
great
outcry
on
the
planning
commission
when
a
certain
commissioner
was
appointed.
J
K
Hi
blair
beekman
here.
Thank
you
very
much
from
that
for
that
clarification
by
martha
o'connell
boy.
I
read
this
item
and
and
the
ideas
of
with
or
without
cause
it's
it's
a
very
questionable
language.
I
mean
I,
I
respect
what
council
person
carrasco
wants
to
do
for
the
future
of
this
idea
and,
have
you
know
the
planning
commission,
as
a
part
of
the
of
the
rest
of
the
commission
process
and
and
and
to
play
by
the
same
rules
totally
understandable
and
very
good.
K
I
think
what
martha's
trying
to
ask
and
what
I'm
just
learning
for
the
first
time
is
that
the
language
states
with
or
without
cause
council,
can,
I
don't
know,
remove
a
a
a
a
commission
person
that
language
just
seems
a
bit
odd,
and
I
don't
you
know,
I'm
I'm,
I'm
not
I'm
not
a
pro
about
these
things,
but
a
bit
more
reserve
and
a
set
of
checks
and
balances
seems
more
appropriate
to
act
and
in
how
to
describe
that
item.
K
Can
nora
and
city
attorney
staff
want
to
be
willing
to
work
on
it
just
to
clean
up
this
language
and
and
and
the
more
respectable
language
that
says
that
you
know
I
I
don't
know
a
council's
discretion
at
the
at
as
counselors
see
fit
as
council
persons
see
fit.
K
You
know
some
sort
of
language
that,
with
or
without
cause
really
is
a
bit
broad
and
and
a
bit
whimsical,
and
I
hope
we
can
work
on
this
issue,
and
I
hear
what
martha's
saying
I
hear
what
council
person
crosstalk's
saying:
good
luck
and
voting
for
it
and
possibly
working
on
the
language
too.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
before
I
go
to
council
member
brawls.
I
just
have
a
couple
of
quick
questions
either
for
you
lee
or
nora,
so
we
can't
remove
a
planning,
commissioner,
under
any
circumstances
or
what.
T
I'll
take
that
one:
okay,
this
in
the
charter.
There
are
provisions
for
appointment
of
planning,
commissioners
and
also
removal
of
planning.
Commissioners
and
those
same
provisions
don't
appear
for
other
charter
commission
positions,
but
for
the
planning
commission
it.
The
charter
states
that
the
council
may
remove
a
member
from
office,
meaning
from
the
planning
commission
at
any
time
for
misconduct,
inefficiency
or
willful
neglect
in
the
performance
of
the
duties
of
his
or
her
office.
T
A
And
then
my
second
question
is:
do
does
anybody
know
the
history
of
why
we
singled
out
the
planning
commission
to
have
that
specific
requirement
or
those
specific
requirements
for
removal?
A
Is
there
any
historical
record
of
of
why
I
I
have
my
thoughts
and
opinion,
but
I
didn't
I
don't
know
if
it's
well,
it's
not
based
on
any
actual
documentation
or
or
facts
that
I
have.
T
Councilmember
we
would
have
to
research
that,
and
we
could
do
that
if
this
ends
up
going
to
council,
but
this
has
been
in
the
charter.
It
was
for
a
long
time.
It
was
first
amended
and
this
the
planning
commission
provisions.
I
don't
know
about
this
particular
section.
It
was
first
amended
ad
election
in
1966
and
then
the
planning
commission
sections
were
again
amended
in
1970,
1988
and
1994..
T
A
Yeah,
I'm
not
going
to
ask
you
to
try
to
dig
through
microfiche
or
old
dusty
boxes
to
try
to
find
it,
because
I'm
making
the
assumption
that
the
reason
why
it's
in
there
like
that
is
because
an
earlier
council
wanted
to
create
some
type
of
barrier
or
installation
of
from
council
and
the
planning
commission
to
avoid
politics
or
your
personalities.
A
E
Thank
you
I
I
so
I
had
a
similar
question,
but
I
had
a
follow-up
question
which
is,
nor
can
you
describe
what
the
process
for
removal
is
from
the
other
commissions.
T
I'm
looking
up
the
exact
language
in
the
munico
right
now,
but
it's
in
the
municipal
code
and
there's
a
process
and
the
removal
is
not
limited
solely
to
performance
in
in
office.
E
There
would
you
mind
gathering
that
language
and
I'm
happy
to
pause
and
allow
councilmember
davis
to
ask
her
questions,
but
I
don't
know
if
she's
going
to
make
you
go
run
and
do
something
too
so,
but
I'm
happy
to
pause
for
a
moment
here.
If
you
want
to
come
back
to
me,
vice
man.
R
Well,
I
appreciate
the
question
so
far.
My
understanding
is
that
the
planning
commission
is
a
quasi-judicial
body.
They
make.
They
hear
appeals
from
directors.
Planning
director's
hearings.
Is
that
correct.
T
R
Okay,
I
mean
I,
I
guess
I
think
the
the
reasons
for
removal
right
now.
Misconduct,
inefficiency
and
willful.
Neglect
in
their
duties
are
sufficient
and
frankly
reasons.
The
only
reasons
why
we
should
be
removing
planning,
commission
members
and
probably
civil
service
commission
members,
honestly
as
quasi
judicial
bodies.
R
I
also
want
to
point
out
you
know
plenty
of
planning
commissioners
and
I'm
not
commenting
on
any
current
planning
commissioners
and
their
their
candidacies
for
office,
but
plenty
of
people
on
council
have
historically
served
on
planning
commission,
and
I
don't
like
the
idea
of
saying
that
a
majority
of
council
members
who
maybe
didn't
like
a
candidate
for
council
could
remove
them
from
their
appointed
position
just
because
they
didn't
like
that
and
that
I
understand
that
couldn't
happen
this
time,
but
it
could
happen
in
the
future
and
that
that's
a
way
of
of
really
kind
of
squashing,
putting
our
putting
our
thumb
on
the
scale
of
a
future
elections.
R
Possibly-
and
I
don't
like
that
idea-
I'm
really
that
makes
me
really
frankly
ill.
So
I'm
not
I'm
not
in
favor
of
this,
and
I'm
I'm
really
not
looking
forward
to
to
having
this
move
forward.
Thank
you.
A
All
right
nora
did
you
find
I
do.
T
I
did
thank
you
and
I
apologize
for
not
having
this
in
front
of
me.
I
had
looked
it
up
before,
but
I
I
don't
have
the
I
didn't,
have
the
sections
right
in
front
of
me,
but
I
got
a
lifeline
from
someone
in
my
office.
T
The
the
salary
setting
commission
has
a
has
a
similar
section.
Civil
service
does
not
the
munich
code
provides
that
notwithstanding
an
appointment
for
a
specific
term
or
part
of
a
term,
any
person
appointed
to
and
holding
the
position
of
member
of
any
board
of
commission
may
be
removed
from
appointment
at.
E
Do
you
mind
if
I
pick
back
up
vice
mayor
go
ahead?
Thank
you.
Okay,
thank
you,
norah
that
that
does
help.
I
will
say
it
doesn't
help
my
decision,
though,
because
I
actually
don't
agree
with
that
language.
My
my
concern
is
is
the
without
cause
portion.
E
I
I
definitely
don't
agree
that
with
whatever
commission
that
there
could
be
a
without
cause
provision,
and
I
would
prefer
to
sort
of
go
the
other
direction
where
we
actually
look
at
ensuring
that
there
is
cause,
regardless
of
what
commission,
I
I'm
not
totally
closed
off
to
the
idea
of.
Is
there
something
that's
a
better
hybrid,
because
I
recognize
that
the
planning
commission
language
is
very
specific
to
the
just
that
role
and
it
doesn't
give
any
other
leeway.
E
I
wouldn't
I
wouldn't
want
to
go
all
the
way
to
where
the
language
is
now,
because
I
don't
even
agree
with
that
with
our
commissioners
today.
I
think
I
I
would
imagine
most
our
commissioners
aren't
aware
of
that.
If
I
wasn't
aware
of
that-
and
I
would
imagine
they'd
be
pretty
surprised
to
find
out
that
you
know
on
any
given
day
a
council
member
that-
let's
say
yes,
they
don't
like
them
and
that
they
could
put
forward
a
memo.
E
That
would
say:
hey
you're,
going
to
be
off
the
commission
if
we
can
get
a
majority
votes.
I
wouldn't
expect
that
to
happen.
E
You
know,
often,
even
if
at
all
I
have
more,
I
think,
respect
for
for
the
people
that
are
on
the
council
with
my
colleagues,
but
I
do
think
that
that's
it
creates
that
that
opening
for
that
possibility-
and
I
I
know
I
would
be
nervous
as
a
commissioner-
that
that
that
would
be
the
parameter
and
to
change
the
muny
code.
We
don't
have
to
go
to
the
charter,
correct
nora,
correct,
so
is
there
a
reason
why
the
planning
commission
rules
were
within
the
charter?
I
get?
I
don't
know.
E
T
Yes,
and
and
as
I
say
that
section
on
the
planning
commission
goes
back
to
before
1966
because
it
was
first
amended
in
1966.
So
we
would
have
to
research
and
see
when
that
particular
provision
came
into
the
charter
or
if
it
was
there
originally
and
then
what
the
purpose
may
be
so,
and
we
can
do
that
research,
it's
not
impossible.
E
Okay,
all
right
yeah,
I
mean,
I
guess
so,
I'm
not
comfortable
with
the
memo
with
the
direction
that,
as
is
and
again,
I
would
actually
prefer
that
we,
if
we're
going
to
make
a
change,
that
we
look
at
the
charter
and
we
actually
amend
that
language
and
and
and
don't
have
it
to
be
so
easy
for
the
rest
of
the
commission
and
I
wouldn't
be
against
looking
at
well.
E
S
Thank
you.
Thank
you
vice
mayor
and
I
I
actually
agree
with
you
council,
member
perales.
We
use
that
language,
because
that
was
the
language
that
was
currently
being
used
and
we
got
direction
from
from
our
from
our
lawyer's
office,
but
and
I'm
willing
to
rework
that
memo.
S
If,
if
it
so
pleases,
the
the
committee,
I
don't
agree
necessarily
with
council
member
davis's
assertion
that
there's
going
to
be
a
a
two-thirds
majority,
that's
going
to
vote
out
a
a
commissioner
in
whichever
commission.
By
the
way,
it's
not
just
the
planning
commission
there's
been
different
members
throughout
the
city
who
have
who
have
thrown
their
hat
in
and
they've
they've,
either
sat
on
a
commission
have
resigned
from
a
commission,
have
been
former
commissioners
have
dabbled
in
it
one
way
or
the
other.
S
The
planning
commission
just
seems
to
have
a
little
bit
more
ambitious
individuals
if
you
will,
and
that
doesn't
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
that's
going
to
give
you
a
shoe-in
into
this
into
this
seat.
In
fact,
I
unseated
an
individual
that
had
been
on
the
planning
commission
made
it
to
one
term,
and
then
I
unseated
him,
so
it
it's
not
a.
It's
not
a
guaranteed
victory
nor
staying
power,
but
but
but
I
get
it
I
I.
S
I
do
think,
however,
that
there
should
be
an
ability
for
the
council
to
be
able
to
have
some
authority
over
our
commissioners,
whom
we
appoint
to
carry
out
their
duties
and
and
that
we
should
be
able
to
hold
them
accountable.
Just
like
the
voters
hold
us
accountable
and
they
have
an
ability
to
recall
us
if
they
don't
believe
that
we're
doing
our
job
correctly
or
if
they
are
disgruntled
with
us
in
any
which
way.
For
whatever
reason.
S
What
troubles
me
about
about
this
one
particular
commission
is
that
it
says-
and
I
I
I
don't.
I
don't
know
the
exact
wording,
but
you
said
nora
that
it
says
something
about
it's:
it's
tied
directly
to
the
job
and
responsibility
or
the
way
that
they're
carrying
out
their
job,
as
it
relates
directly
to
the
responsibilities
of
the
commission,
which
is
fine.
S
S
Not
that's
not
necessarily
the
criteria
to
remove
someone
from
their
responsibilities
on
the
commission
and-
and
I
would
think
that
that
would
be
enough
reason
to
pause
and
raise
an
eyebrow
as
to
whether
or
not
to
keep
this
person
on
a
commission
representing
the
city
of
san
jose,
at
the
very
least,
have
a
conversation,
a
public
conversation
and
have
a
discussion
as
to
whether
or
not
we
keep
the
person
there
and
right
now.
There
is
no
mechanism,
or
there
is
no
venue
for
us
to
have
that
conversation
because
it
would
be.
S
It
would
be
a
mute
point,
and
so
I'm
more
than
happy
to
take
it
back
or
I
don't
know
if,
if
if
the
committee
would
be
consid
would
consider
moving
it
forward
and
then
we
we
toy
with
that
first
line
at
the
at
the
full
council.
T
Okay,
well
a
couple
things:
there
are
different
versions,
for
example,
the
federated
board
and
the
police
and
fire
board
have
removal
provisions
that
are
set
out
in
the
charter
or.
T
The
munich
code
and
are
different
than
the
broad
overall
term,
and
then
also
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
that
the
civil
service
commission
can
remove
one
of
its
own
members
again,
the
same
language
for
misconduct,
inefficiency
or
willful,
neglect
and
the
performance
of
the
duties
of
his
or
her
office,
but
that
person
would
have
to
be
given
the
notice
in
writing
and
and
then
would
have
an
opportunity
to
be
heard
before
the
civil
service
commission
and
that's
that's
a
little
bit
different
than
the
planning
commission.
T
That
would
be
the
civil
service
commission
itself
rather
than
the
council.
So
there
are
variations
on
a
theme
on
this.
If
you
wanted
you're
asking
how
you
get
this
to
counsel,
is
that
correct,
councilmember?
T
Well,
it
depends
on
how
the
vote
goes
today,
that
it
can
be
sent
on,
and
otherwise
you
could
try
to
get
into
priority
setting.
Would
you
agree
lee
on
that.
F
You
know
I
would
say
if
the
council
wished
to
pursue
this,
you
know
I'll
just
say
we're
going
to
try
and
come
forward
on
june
7th,
I
believe,
with
two
charter
I
meant,
or
two
ballot
measures
amending
the
city
charter
based
off
of
the
special
meeting
last
week,
one
dealing
with
the
the
inclusion
of
equity
and
some
of
the
decision
making
and
the
other
mostly
around
modernization.
F
So
this
could
fit
within
that
work,
but
I
think
you
know
this
would
need
to
go
to
council
and
we
need
to
have
that
direction
relatively
soon
like
next
week
or
the
rules
committee
could
definitely
include
this
as
a
part
of
the
other
deferrals
that
the
council
made
into
that
next
bucket
that
we
would
bring
forward
as
part
of
the
road
map
to
do
additional
work
around.
That
would
require
you
guys
to
prioritize
it,
but
it
would,
if
prioritized,
give
us
the
flexibility
to
ask
some
of
these
policy
questions
and
do
some
engagement
around
it.
A
There's
I've
heard
you
know
differing
opinions
on
on
this,
this
topic
and
I
actually
kind
of
leaned
towards
some
of
the
other
commissions
having
similar
requirements.
A
As
the
planning
commission,
I
was
looking
at
the
board
of
fair
campaign
and
political
practices,
and
it
actually
surprised
me
that
that
didn't
have
a
higher
bar
in
terms
of
removing
individuals
from
from
that
that
board,
because
that's
a
board
where
it's
very
easy
to
have
that
board,
making
recommendations
to
investigate
council
members
or
other
individuals,
you
know
candidates
and
which
you
know
obviously
creates
some
some
tension
that
might
potentially
lead
to
an
effort
to
have
people
removed
from
that
that
board.
A
So
I'm
leaning
more
in
the
direction
of
beefing
up
some
of
the
requirements
on
some
of
the
other
boards,
like
like
the
civil
service,
commission
and
so
kind
of
going
in
a
different,
different
direction.
Council
member
across
cause,
I
think
lee
the
recommendation
of
moving
it
to
the
next
bucket
and
having
staff
have
an
opportunity
to
to
really
do
some
some
work
on
it.
If
council
feels
as
a
priority,
I
think
it's
probably
well,
it
is,
I
think,
the
best
way
to
go
to
move
forward
so
councilmember
perales.
E
Yeah,
thank
you
I'll
make
that
motion.
I
would
agree
with
that
as
well.
I
think
there's
actually
a
lot
here.
That
is
worth
looking
at
similar
to
what
you
said.
As
I
was
saying
earlier,
it
looks
like
the
munich
code
probably
needs
to
be
amended,
maybe
for
all
the
different
commissions,
and
it
sounds
like
we
probably
haven't
done
this
collective
work
we've
had.
E
Each
commission
has
had
a
separate,
you
know,
parameter
around
it,
and
I
don't
think
that
that
you
know
if
the
the
conversation
we
had
had
before
for
the
charter
amendments
was,
I
think,
was
immediate
and
next
or
something
and
and
and
are
not
happening
at
all,
and
so
I
would
agree
that's
what
lee
was
saying
this
this
in
my
mind
as
well,
would
fit
into
the
bucket
of
next,
because
I
do
think
it
requires
some
additional
work
and
so
lee.
When
can
you
repeat
when
that
would
come
back?
F
Yeah
that
would
come
forward
on
may
16th
as
a
part
of
one
of
the
budget
study
sessions
when
we
bring
forward
the
proposed
roadmap
and
we're
going
to
have
other
items
that
have
been
yellow
lit.
You
know
at
this
committee
from
the
past
few
months,
as
well
as
the
in
council
member
cohen's
memo
and
the
motion.
I
forget
what
items,
but
you
guys
referred
some
of
the
commission's
recommendation
to
that
process
as
well.
So
I
think
we
would
include
this
and
that
for
your
own
consideration,
when
you
prioritize.
E
Okay,
thank
you
and
then,
if
you
can
take
into
the
consideration
when
we
have
that
discussion,
the
conversations
that
we've
had
today
in
regards
to
you
know,
obviously
the
the
looks
like
some
unicode
amendments
and
and
the
realigning
of
maybe
all
of
the
the
commissions
and
and
having
a
better
parameter
that
maybe
we
all
agree
on
for
for
removal
of
commissioners.
F
T
I
just
want
to
remind
everybody
that
if,
if
we're
just
dealing
with
the
municipal
code,
that's
one
thing
and
trying
to
sort
it
out
if
it's
a
charter
commission
that
has
language
in
the
charter
that
would
have
to
go
to
the
voters.
And
so,
if
council
wanted
to
deal
with
that
this
year,
that
would
have
to
be
done
by
early
august.
E
Yeah-
and
I
was
aware
that
I
I
know
that
that
was
the
same-
I
guess
the
same
opportunity
we
had
with
everything
we
had
debated
on
before
either
immediate
or
later,
and
we
knew
that
some
of
these
things
would
have
to
go
to
a
future
ballot.
They
weren't
going
to
make
it
potentially
this
november
right
so.
A
Okay,
so
don't
see
any
other
hands
raised,
it
was
a
motion.
Did
we
have
a
second
on
that.
A
So
it's
kind
of
in
limbo-
I
guess
councilmember
carrasco.
Maybe
you
might
want
to
go
back
to
the
lab
in.
A
A
different
proposal-
maybe
that
might
work
anyway,
so
we
didn't
get
a
second.
So
I.
S
I
my
understanding
was
councilmember.
Perales
was
moving
an
entirely
different
motion,
so.
E
A
Strong
role,
I
mean
counseling,
I'm
just
being
blunt
here
how.
S
Unfortunate,
no
one
wants
any
accountability.
Okay,
then,.
A
Okay,
all
right,
so
the
motion
does
not
get
a
second,
so
it
dies
so
we're
going
to
move
to
open
forum
so
tony
or
beekman.
K
Boy
beekman:
we
have
procedures
and
rules
in
this
life,
but
I
think
council,
president
carrasco
and
perel
has
really
tried
to
make
something
simple
and
clear
and
how
we
can
have
a
future
of
the
commission
process
itself.
Its
rules
to
be
clear
and
understandable,
more
clear,
good
luck
to
really
work
on
this
good
luck,
how
we
can
talk
about
procedures
that
have
been
in
place
since
the
late
60s
I
wanted
to
ask
about.
K
There
is
going
to
be
a
mayday
celebrations,
there's
going
to
be
a
via
kaye
on
mayday
itself,
which
is
kind
of
interesting
and
unique
planning
by
city
of
san
jose.
Did
they
plan
this
with
mayday
organizers,
who
have
a
really
important
mayday
walk
in
march
and
festival
each
day
is
each
may
day
as
well?
K
I
hope
I
hope
you
did,
and
I
hope
that
this
can
be
talked
about
more
and
everyone
to
be
clear
about
the
future
of,
and
we
can
all
have
a
good
may
day.
K
Things
may
have
been
a
bit
uncomfortable,
I
hope
something's
working
out
and
and
and
it's
important
we
do
all
work
that
out
and
can
work
that
out.
Good
luck
in
our
efforts
to
do
that,
and
I
wanted
to
also
offer
really
quickly
that,
with
the
alfresco
plans
that
people
seem
to
really
like
and
are
supporting,
I
hope
there
can
be
that
same
sort
of
support
for
the
future
of
zoom
meeting
connections.
K
So
council
meetings
can
have
a
zoom
connection.
It's
a
bit
questionable
right
now
and-
and
all
of
these
things
are
in
this
arab
covid-
good
luck,
how
we
can
address
these
things
and
and
possibly
what
are
the
ways
to
continue
such
things.
Thanks
a
lot
for
the
meeting,
there
were
some
good
words
said
on
the
last
item.
I
I
hope
we
can
really
work
on
these
issues.
Thank
you.
H
H
This
is
your
city
amongst
a
bunch
of
other
things,
but
yeah
gun
control.
You
know
I
tried
to
talk
about
it
yesterday.
You
guys
shut
me
down
hard,
didn't
like
it
man
you
didn't
like
hearing
about
it
it.
I
know,
I'm
glad
I'm
making
the
right
people
angry.
That's.
G
H
I
H
M
Hello
roles
committee-
I
was
originally
supposed
to
be
here
a
little
bit
earlier.
I
think
the
timing
didn't
quite
work,
but
I
am
here
to
comment
on
council
member
perales's
memos
directing
city
stuff
to
fully
convert
the
existing
alfresco
closure
of
san
pedro
street
to
a
permanent
closure.
M
I
am
here
on
behalf
of
spur
and
we
wholeheartedly
support
this
memo.
We
also
support
you
know
the
ensuing
design
guidelines
that
will
provide
direction
and
maintaining
a
consistent,
aesthetic
and
operations
framework
for
local
business
owners.
We
strongly
believe
that
vibrant
and
permanent,
slow
streets
and
outdoor
dining
initiatives
are
critical
to
the
continued
vitality
of
small
businesses
and
the
neighborhoods
they
serve
as
well
as
helping
to
make
san
jose
more
livable,
equitable
and
sustainable.