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City of San José, California
Joint meeting of Rules and Open Government / Committee of the Whole of February 10, 2021
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A
A
A
B
B
A
A
A
C
Welcome
to
the
joint
meeting
of
the
rules
and
open
government
committee
and
committee
as
a
whole
tony:
can
we
have
a
roll
call?
Please.
A
A
C
C
Okay,
so
no
council
meeting
next
week,
but
we
have
a
me
for
tuesday
february
23rd
and
let's
start
with
pages.
C
And
I
know
there's
a
a
request
from
staff
to
have
a
an
11
am
regular
session
start
time.
So
I
want
to
ask
the
maker
of
the
motion
to
completely
disregard
staff's
recommendation.
C
D
Good
afternoon,
council,
I'm
here
for
councilman
paralysis,
the
the
lore's
law,
the
the
one
on
housing,
yes
yeah,
so
on
the
abatements,
and
so
what
you'll
come
up
with
that?
That
isn't
right
now.
C
It's
not
right
now,
but
we
will
come
to
that
and
make
sure
that
you.
D
Okay,
cool-
I
I
just
I
I
still
is
there
a
class
that
I
can
take.
I
have
no
clue
on
how
you
guys
do
what
you
do,
and
so
I
I'm
it
gets
frustrating
because
I
keep
coming
to
the
meetings
and
I'm
not
getting
any
help
or
direction
from
anybody.
I'm
doing
this
all
on
my
own
and
what
I
don't
like
doing
is
saying
something
I'm
staying
some
out
of
order,
or
this
item
didn't
come
up
and
there's
a
sense
of
rejection
there
and-
and
so
is
there.
D
C
Tell
you
one
better
paul.
Actually
I
just
had
this
conversation
earlier
with
my
staff
in
terms
of
how
the
rules
agenda
is
formatted,
it
is,
is
actually
can
be
pretty
confusing
for
everyone,
so
you're
not
you're,
not
alone,
okay
cool.
So
I
want
to
ask
city
clerk
tony.
If
we
can
look
at
how
we
can
revamp
the
rules
agenda
and
make
it
easier
for
both
council
members
staff
and
the
general
public
to
follow,
if
we
can,
if
we
can.
A
A
I've
posted
a
video
on
youtube
to
explain
how
to
read
the
regular
council
agenda
and
I
can
do
the
same
thing
for
all
the
other
agendas.
I'm
going
to
start
doing
a
series
of
how-to
videos.
A
Now
that
zoom
has
made
it
really
easy
to
share,
screen
and
narrate.
So
I
can
direct
people
through
so
I'll
I'll.
Do
rules
next.
E
Hi
blair
beekman
here
happy
wednesday
that
was
really
nice
to
hear
yeah
I'll,
be
looking
forward
to
that
too
for
a
way
that
the
peop
everyday
people
can
understand
the
process.
Better.
That's
really
interesting
and
youtube
is
a
really
interesting
way
to
do
that
so
yeah,
to
make
things
more,
better,
better,
explain
things
that
will
just
be
incredible
for
our
future.
Consider
language
interpretation,
how
that
can
be
an
easier
process
in
the
future,
and
I
guess
what
chappie
jones
has
mentioned.
You'll
want.
E
You
want
to
be
doing
something
different
with
the
consent
calendar
in
the
future
and
how
that
is
presented.
So
good
luck
in
your
efforts
and
thanks.
There
are
two
items
on
the
council
agenda
this
week
that
really
caught
my
interest.
One
was
the
covid
issues.
E
E
I
think
possibly
it
could
possibly
cause
a
few
more
deaths
than
need
to
so
we
have
to
be
ready
for
that,
and
you
know
I
we
just
we
can't
give
up
yet
I
don't
think-
and
so
good
luck
on
that.
The
other
thing
is
about
cyber
security
and
thank
you
for
having
such
an
issue.
I
really
hope
you
guys
just
spend
a
lot
of
time
talking
about
it
and
as
you're
talking
about
it
for
all
your
worries
and
all
everything
you're
going
to
be
talking
about
it.
E
I
hope
you
save
a
certain
amount
of
time
that
there
are
ways
to
talk
about
cyber
security
in
terms
of
open
public
policy
and
it's
being
worked
on
around
the
world
at
this
time.
You
know
how
it
can
be
a
process
between
community
and
government,
and
it
doesn't
have
to
be
a
sense
of
war.
It
is
a
sense
of
peace,
this
part
of
the
process
of
peace,
and
I
hope
you
guys
learned
to
talk
about
open
public
policies
with
cyber
security
as
well.
Thank.
C
You
blair,
coming
back
to
council
to
see
councilman
perales
has
his
hands
raised
and
just
for
the
new
members
of
this
committee.
F
I'll
always
ask
a
question
for
you:
where
is
it
that
the
staff
thinks
we're
going
to
be
spending
a
lot
of
time
on
that
date?
Is
it
because
of
the
3.1,
or
is
there
additional
items
to
like
4.1
police
reform
stuff
like
that.
G
As
lee
wilcox
chief
of
staff
of
the
city
manager's
office,
there's
several
items,
some
of
the
land
use
items
later
on
the
night,
we'll
have
a
lot
of
public
comment
and
some
controversy,
as
well
as
the
inclusionary
housing
ordinance,
the
the
4.1
you're
absolutely
correct,
and
then
it's
not
a
3.1,
but
for
council
direction
we
did
include
a
3.8
which
is
a
verbal
report
on
the
county's
vaccination
program
that
the
council
wished
for,
and
we
do
think
all
of
those
together
will
take
considerable
time.
F
Okay,
I
would
have
to
concur
so
sorry,
sorry,
chair
sure.
F
I
will
make
the
motion
momentarily,
and
I
know
it's
not
necessarily
part
of
this
item,
but
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
tony
for
making
mention
of
the
how
to
quite
frankly,
a
lot
of
these
meetings
are
confusing,
and
certainly
rules
is
one
of
one
of
them.
I
think
more
confusing
ones
and
hopefully
in
the
how-to.
F
You
can
also
explain
sort
of
the
the
just
the
function
of
rules,
maybe
right
in
the
beginning
kind
of
what
what
it,
what
its
role
plays
as
a
as
a
committee
and
then
a
how
to
for
our
community
members
to
participate,
but
I
do
appreciate
you
doing
that
and
and
making
that
response
and
to
paul
soto,
you're,
not
you're,
not
alone,
and
so
with
that
I
will
move
to
approve
the
agenda
for
the
23rd
with
the
change.
A
H
Marinus
yes,
but
before
I'm
I'm
sorry,
I
forgot
to
raise
my
hand
chair.
Can
you
make
a
comment
before
we
vote.
H
H
Yeah
I
mean
I
think,
that
that
there's
quite
a
few
num
items
on
the
agenda
that
will
elicit
some
participation
from
folks.
I
think
it's
is
it
4.1.
H
The
police
reforms,
independent
investigation
of
police
misconduct,
work
plan.
I
think
once
again,
if
we
can
do
not
before
five.
I
know
with
the
three
point
one
and
three
well
with
a
3.1.
Usually
we
go
pretty
long,
but
I'm
hoping
we
can
do
4.1
not
before
5.
F
H
Right-
and
I
don't
know
if,
if
lee
has
an
idea
about
the
land
use,
if
it's
the
city-wide
design
standards
and
guidelines,
I'm
sure
that
that
will
create
a
lot
of
feedback
as
well.
H
And
so
I
wonder
if
we
could
have
also
a
time
certain
for
that
or
maybe
it's
this
one's
more
like
not
before,
not
after
eight
or
not
after
nine
or
something
like
that
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
folks
who
participate
in
many
of
our
committees
that
may
want
to
participate,
but
don't
want
to
stay
on
the
meeting
until
11
when
we
think
we're
gonna
anticipate
to
have
this
item
come
up.
G
I
I
guess
my
my
only
suggestion
is-
and
you
guys
can
always
discuss
this
during
order
of
the
day
orders
of
the
day
as
well,
but
to
give
yourself
plenty
of
flexibility
depending
on
what
comes
up
on
the
23rd,
and
so
I
think,
obviously
moving
4.1
to
not
before
5
o'clock
kind
of
sets
some
boundaries
around
that
and
there's
enough,
obviously,
with
3.8
on
around
the
county,
vaccinations
and
other
items,
but
not
knowing
how
long
that
conversation
around
4.1
will
happen
with
the
land
use
items.
H
Yeah
you
know
I
was
on
a
general
plan
task
force,
and
this
is
one
of
the
items
that
kept
coming
back
in
terms
of
people
wanting
to
provide
input
and
just
keeping
track
of
it,
and
I
know
my
community
keeps
track
of
this
quite
closely.
H
So
I
know
that
my
residents
will
come
out.
It
would
be
nice
to
provide
them
with
some
time
parameters.
At
the
very
least
I
get
I
get
that
we
don't
want
to
kind
of
box
ourselves
in.
I
know
that
the
mayor,
as
the
chair
of
the
meeting,
can
have
some
flexibility
in
terms
of
bringing
thing
just
moving
things
around.
G
As
a
group,
by
the
way
for
you
certainly
don't
have
council
next
week,
council
member,
but
you
do
have
rules,
so
you
do
have
the
ability
one
more
time
to
look
at
this
agenda
and
refine
it
if
additional
things
get
added.
So
if
it's
something
that
the
committee
wants
to
do
now
or
not
do
now,
you
have
the
ability
to
pivot
next
week.
H
Okay,
I
I
still
think,
oh
you
know
whether
it's
next
week
or
now,
I
I
do
think
that
there's
going
to
be
quite
a
bit
of
comment
created
by
this
particular
item,
so
you
know
I'll
leave
it
in
the
maker
of
the
motion.
If
that
you
know,
if
you
want
to
do
it
now,
if
you
want
to
do
it
until
the
week
after
when
we
actually
resume
rules
once
again,
I'm
fine
with
that
as
well.
F
Yeah-
and
I
know
we
talked
about
this
at
length
a
little
bit
last
week
right
just
in
regards
to
the
timing,
and
so
just
to
be
clear,
I
mean
we
could
do
a
not
before
a
certain
time,
but
if
we
pick
something
like
time
certain,
I
believe
the
the
way
that
the
the
rules
are
nora
right.
F
So
would
you
want
that
a
time
certain
councilman
dennis
or
would
you
want
a
not
before
you
know
a
certain
time,
and
obviously
we
talk
about
that?
We
if
we
do
the
not
before
five
it
still
could
happen
at
you
know
11
30.,
so.
H
I
think
it's
just
a
matter
of
a
guaranteeing
that
the
item
is
not
going
to
be
heard
extremely
late
and
we
heard
that
from
our
mobile
health
mobile
home
residents
about
the
item
being
at
the
end
of
the
agenda,
and
you
know
they
started
at
the
very
beginning.
So
I
think
it's
just
important
to
give
a
time
frame.
I
know
that
I
wanted,
like
the
cable
guy
time
frame.
That's
not
part
of
our
rules.
We
we
can't
do
that,
but
so
a
time
certain
would
work
as
well.
F
So
my
my
only
concern
is
that
looking
at
the
agenda,
I
know
that
for
at
least
my
district,
the
martha's
garden
specific
plan
is
10.4
I'll
likely
have
community
members
that
want
to
participate,
but
I
know
for
certain:
10.5
is
probably
going
to
have
community
members
that
want
to
participate
and
that's
in
accounts
for
foley's
district.
F
I
happen
to
be
in
the
brown
act
with
her
on
that,
and
so
I
think
it's
just
you
know
if
we
were
to
do
something
like
hey,
let's
make
10.2
a
time
certain
we
know
something
is
going
to
be
last
right,
something
is
going
to
be
heard
pretty
late,
and
so
it's
just
at
the
expense
of
what,
and
so
that's
my
concern
is
that
I
think
you
know
I
I'm
I'm
not
certain
that
we're
we're
going
to
be
really
helping.
F
You
know
here
we
may
just
be
moving
one
person
in
front
of
the
line
and
then-
and
somebody
else
you
know
goes
extremely
later
now,
regardless
10.5
is
the
last
item
on
the
agenda,
so
the
likelihood
there
right
is
that
it's
it's
last.
F
Unless
councilmember,
you
know
fully
wanted
to
to
join
us
at
rules
next
week
and
say:
hey:
can
we
get
a
time
certain
on
that
we're
not
necessarily
hearing
from
her
today,
but
she
may
hear
that
you
know:
we've
we've
had
this
conversation,
so
you
know
I
haven't
heard
from
anybody
yet
on
the
citywide
design,
standards
and
guidelines
that
that
there's
going
to
be
a
big
turnout,
so
I'd
prefer.
If
we
could,
maybe
you
know,
let's
put
our
keep
our
ears
open
until
next
wednesday.
It
rules
and
then
decide.
F
H
Yes,
I
I
have
been
hearing
from
my
neighbor
associations
that
this
is
something
that's
and-
and
this
has
been
I've
been
getting
correspondence
since
the
end
of
last
year,
like
in
december
throughout
all
of
the
year
last
year,
but
definitely
picked
up
at
the
end
of
december.
So
I
know
this
is
going
to
be
rather
rather
a
large
item.
I
think
10.5
has
already
come
before
us.
H
H
Yeah,
so
so
I
think
this
is
this
has
come
before
us.
I,
I
don't
remember
that
taking
too
too
long
either
way,
you
know
whether
you
know
council,
member
foley
wants
to.
You
know,
request
a
time
certain,
that's
completely
up
to
her.
If
you
want
to
just
keep
it
open,
I
I'll
still
say
the
same
thing.
I
I'm
saying
today
I'll
say
it
next
week.
H
H
F
Yeah
it
sounds
like
you
have
a
clear
indication
that
you're
going
to
have
a
lot
of
people
come
out,
I'm
fine
with
it.
Then
we
can
also
make
a
change
next
week,
but
I
think
I
think
this
might
send
a
clear
message
to
anybody
else.
Whether
it's
you
know
I
can
reach
out
to
my
community
members
on
10.4
and
then
pam
can
get
an
understanding
or
counselor
fully
can
get
an
understanding
right
and
if
she
wants
to
chime
in
before
next
wednesday,
then
we
can
add
anything
else.
Then.
F
So
that's
fine,
we'll
we'll
send
a
clear
message.
Then
we
can
do
the
agenda
approved
for
the
23rd
with
a
time
starting
at
11
and
then
item
4.1
not
to
be
heard
before
five
and
10.2
times
certain
at
8
pm.
I
believe
I
got
that
right.
C
Is
that
acceptable
to
the
secondary.
F
A
F
C
D
Yes,
paul
soto
from
the
horseshoe
last
year,
there
was
a
discussion
regarding
google
trying
to
get
a
direct
conduit
into
pg
e's
line,
and
that
was
like,
like
turned
down,
because
what
what's
going
to
happen
at
google,
this
is
this
is
fact,
is
that
they're
going
to
have
quantum
computing
going
on
there?
It's
going
to
be
the
actual
center
of
quantum
computing.
D
D
You
know
and
and
see
these
are
the
things
about
this
isn't
just
about
google
coming
over
here.
Okay
building,
restaurants
of
you
know,
nice
pretty
walkways
it's
bigger
than
that
a
lot
bigger
than
that,
and
this
is
a
prime
example
of
it.
D
You
know,
and
so
what
I'm
hoping
is
in
terms
of
with
the
principle
of
protecting
the
people
and
protecting
the
infrastructure
that
we
have
and
and
and
how
delicate
it
actually
is,
and
considering
that
they're
getting
they're
gaining
their
tenancy
in
the
most
redlined
area
of
the
city,
to
be
very
careful
about
these
situations
because
they
do
not
care.
Google
west
does
not
care
anything
about
the
city.
They
pay
off
lawyers
to
deal
with
the
city.
D
E
Hi,
thank
you
a
reminder
that
we've
named
a
street
in
the
area
after
the
44th
president
barack
obama.
You
know,
I
think,
we've
all
realized.
You
know
what
you
know,
that
the
idealism
with
that
and
and
what
that
asks
of
ourselves-
and
I
hope,
we're
you
know
it
can
remind
us
of
ourselves
of
you-
know
the
good
efforts
to
always
be
considering
the
east
side,
with
issues
of
the
google
village
and
and
basically
how,
when
we're
thinking
of
the
east
side,
you
know
it
is
a
multicultural
question.
We're
asking.
E
I
mean:
how
can
there
be
a
future,
for
you
know
the
the
vietnamese
community
for
the
eritrean
community
for
the
ethiopian
community,
the
filipino
community.
You
know
the
chinese
community
there's
a
lot
of
groups,
a
lot
of
groups
in
san
jose,
a
lot
of
different
ethnic
groups,
and
how
can
we
create
you
know
we
have
good
examples
for
the
east
side
at
this
time.
I
feel
we're
growing.
Those
good
examples
of
how
to
you
know
include
east
sides
things.
E
How
do
we
grow
that
to
include
a
full
multicultural
idealism,
and
I
hope
that
can
be
some
of
our
next
steps
with
that
all
said,
I
mean
that
is
the
purpose
of
google
coming
to
san
jose.
E
That
has
to
be,
and
without
all
said,
I
want
to
just
simply
question
you
know:
should
google
even
be
in
san
jose
at
all,
I
mean
they're,
building
our
national
security
future
and
I'm
not
too
happy
about
it,
and
that
always
should
be
a
question,
and
if
we
don't
ask
that
question,
then
that
defeats
our
purpose
of
of
living
in
this
society
and
what
we
can
truly
set
out
to
accomplish.
C
Hi
all
right
on
to
the
public
record.
Let
me
see
if
there's
any
public
speakers
blair,
beekman.
E
Hi,
thank
you.
I
have.
I
wanted
to
kind
of
summarize
my
my
public
record
letter
this
week.
It
was
about
ideas
about
about
the
future
of
the
commission
meetings
and
I
wanted
to
I
thank
yourselves,
my
public
letter
for
making
the
charter
review
and
a
few
other
commission
meetings.
Hopefully
the
start,
the
the
redistricting
meetings
and
all
that
you
know,
I
hope
thank
you
that
you'll
be
making
those
placing
those
on
youtube
for
everyone
to
see.
E
That's
an
incredible
service
to
do
with
commission
meetings,
and
I
just
simply
asked
what
other
steps
can
we
take.
I
know
it's
on
everyone's
mind.
What
other
steps
can
we
take
to
make
the
commission
process
more
accessible
in
the
future?
I
think
it
can
be
a
great
way
to
develop
community
relationships
with
each
other,
and
you
know
the
ideas
of
a
better
language
interpretation:
how
to
clear
that
up
and
clean
that
up.
You
know,
I
hope
we
can
work
that
out
and
good
luck
on
our
emphasis
to
do
that.
E
I
also
mentioned
about
you
know
my
continued
respect
for
deputy
chief
anthony
mata
as
a
really
good
example
in
how
to
look
for
the
future
of
a
police
chief
with
ideas
of
reimagine
and
equity.
I
think
he
embodies
those
things
incredibly
and
I
think
he
would
do
amazing
good
job
in
cooling
off
the
tensions
this
the
sjpoa
can
simply
offer
this
world.
E
I
think
he
could
have
a
really
good
way
to
to
ease
that
bad
gossip
that
that
the
sj
poa
gets
in
sometimes
and
just
makes
a
muck
of
things.
I
feel-
and
I
think
he
can
temper
that
very
well
and
I
think
that's
important
for
all
of
us-
he
can
temper
it
well
and
and
for
all
of
us,
so
I'm
looking
forward
how
he,
how
he
can
do
that
and
and
what
that
can
be.
To
conclude,
I
I
had
a
few
thoughts
about
equity
and
imagine,
amen.
C
F
Yeah
one
question
for
staff
on
the
public
record:
here
I
noticed:
what's
titled
the
letter
from
senator
cortez
but
looks
like
just
his
standard
newsletter
that
I
get
as
well.
Is
that
in
the
public
record,
because
that
got
emailed
into
the
clerk's
office
or
is
there
another
reason.
F
I
just
I
wasn't
certain
if
that's
just
you
know,
the
clerk's
office
is
on
the
email
list
like
I
am
and
gets
the
email,
and
then
you
know
it
all
of
a
sudden.
It
comes
into
the
public
record,
so
I
just
I
curious
because
it
could
be
overkill
unless,
indeed,
maybe
the
senator's
office
was
looking
specifically
for
that
to
make
it
in
front
of
the
council
through
the
public
record
anyway.
That
was
just
a
curiosity
of
a
question
there
and-
and
I
did
read
blair's.
F
Thank
you
letter
I'll,
say
thank
you
back
to
you.
Blair
you're,
always
very
appreciative
and
kind
in
your
your
your
commentary
so
appreciate
the
letter
and
I'll
move
to
proof.
The
public
record.
A
A
I
F
A
C
Hi,
okay:
on
to
item
f1,
a
deferred
compensation
advisory
committee-
appointments.
I'm
looking
to
see.
If
there
are
any
public
comments,
move
approval
it's
been
moved.
Can
I
get
a
second
okay?
No
public
comments.
So
tony.
F
C
On
to
item
g,
one
the
consent
calendar,
I
don't
see
any
public
comments,
move
approval.
F
F
A
E
A
A
E
Great,
thank
you
all
right,
yeah,
you
know
thank
you
for
this
monthly
report.
I
think
first
off
just
I'm
learning
how
to
speak,
that
for
for
other
people,
the
community.
This
item
simply
offers
a
a
real
long
list
of
things.
E
The
city
is
working
on
at
this
time
and
it
just
gives
a
bunch
of
examples
if
you
want
to
talk
about
issues
covered
19
expenditures,
clean
energy
issues,
the
city's
investment
program,
housing
department,
grant
programs
which
thank
yourselves,
you
know
good
luck
in
your
efforts
in
funding
your
own
housing,
rent
forgiveness
ideas.
E
At
this
time
so
yeah
I
mean
I
could
talk
about
clean
energy
and
the
importance
of
you
know
a
a
community
democratic
future
that
clean
energy
offers-
and
you
know
with
with
your
clean
energy
item
here
overall
thanks
for
the
for
this
item
and
thanks
for
your
work,
and
just
just
so,
you
know
thank
you
that
this
thing
is
accessible
to
the
public
and
we
can
comment
on
it.
Thank
you.
A
A
C
Next
item
is
lore's
law
update
councilmember
ross?
Would
you
like
to
speak
to
this
first
or
go
to
public
commons.
F
If
we
have
people
from
the
public
here,
I'd
like
to
go
there.
D
Yes,
paul
soto,
look,
we
can
really
do
some
work
here.
Councilman
perales,
I'm
I'm
working
right
now
with
dr
michael
ibarra
at
the
muriel
wright
center.
That
is
up
on
up
on
burnell
road.
Okay,
I'm
also
working
with
gardner
community
health
center,
okay,
and
so
we
know
best
how
to
really
address
this
without
the
lock
them
up
come
in
because
you
can
euphemistically
say
from
the
outside.
Well,
no,
this
is
just
helping
them
we're.
You
know
what
kind
of
human
beings
are
we
to
watch
our
fellow
citizens
suffer.
D
You
still
have
to
lock
them
in
a
room
and
there's
a
process
of
doing
that
and
47
of
the
interactions
in
the
attempts
to
get
that
person
in
there
have
proved
fatal
in
our
city
for
that
particular
person.
So
what
I'd
really
like
to
do
is
we
can
do
some
good
work
in
this
area,
I'm
already
working
with
supervisor
ellen
berg
and
chavez
in
this
particular
area.
D
The
reason
why
I
do
it
is
in
an
expression
of
gratitude
for
what
my
city
and
county
has
done
for
me.
I
owe
you
people,
and
this
is
the
way
that
I
show
my
civic
appreciation
and
participation,
so
I'd
really
like
to
work
with
your
office
on
this
one.
Thank
you.
C
J
Good
afternoon
vice
mayor
jones,
members
of
the
committee,
scott
niece
executive
director,
san
jose
downtown
association,
this
is
a
tool
in
the
tool
box
that
is
long
overdue
for
our
county
really
appreciate
councilman
perales,
bringing
it
forward.
There's
no
greater
need
right.
Now,
we're
not
really
talking
about
the
folks
that
paul
was
just
talking
about
we're
talking
about
the
individuals
that
suffer
from
severe
mental
illness
and
are
incapable
of
making
decisions
for
themselves
and
put
themselves
or
others
in
danger,
and
it
doesn't
work.
I
mean
there's
the
poster
child.
J
For
this,
unfortunately,
is
the
tortoise
stabber.
You
know
the
police
pick
him
up,
put
him
in
a
50
150..
He
doesn't
even
stay
for
a
72
hour.
Hold
he's
back
two
days
later
with
a
brick
looking
for
the
tortoise.
This,
this
unfortunate
individual
needs
a
quality
of
help
that
he
isn't
capable
of
asking
for,
and
this
is
not
a
panacea,
the
the
assisted
outpatient
treatment.
J
We
understand,
there's
only
a
small
number
of
folks
that
are
going
to
qualify
for
it,
but
this
small
number
of
people
are
causing
a
majority
of
the
fear
in
our
community,
and
this
is
long
overdue.
For
the
county
to
accept
this,
I
fully
support
the
council
putting
the
pressure
on
the
supervisors
to
try
to
talk
their
behavioral
health
staff
into
using
this
long
overdue
tool.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you,
scott
blair.
E
Hi,
thank
you
for
the
words
of
both
previous
speakers.
This
was
an
item
that
was
brought
up
by
former
council
person
camas
in
the
past
few
years,
and
it
was
brought
to
the
board
of
supervisors
at
that
time
as
well,
and
they
come
from
a
tradition
to
kind
of
they
don't
want
to
quite
use
laura's
law,
but
they
will
respect
it
and
can
respect
its
guidelines
and
its
process.
E
How
it
can
work
to
you
know,
work
their
own
programs,
and
I
I
don't
know
if
that's
what
you'll
continue
to
do
or
if
this
is
the
signal
of
something
different,
but
I
really
like
the
words
of
paul
soto
that
you
know
he's
looking
for
choices
about
how
things
can
develop
with
this
and
it'll,
be
interesting
to
see
how
he
can
help
in
in
the
work
for
this
issue.
E
Good
luck
in
in
how
you
will
talk
about
it
and
work
on
it
and
and
you'll
be
working
on
it
with
the
county,
and
I
guess
good
luck
to
all
of
us.
How?
How
old
does
this
assist
you
in
the
future?
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you,
bring
it
back
to
the
committee
member
problems,
there's
also
an
early
consideration
response
to
your
item.
F
Yes,
I
I
saw
that,
and
I
I
know,
obviously
this
is
kind
of
beating
the
drum.
This
is
something
that
we've
been
working
on
for
several
years
and
as
blair
actually
just
pointed
out,
something
that
both
myself
actually
encountered.
Mcamis
had
moved
two
years
ago
and
we
had
a
conversation
with
the
county
on
it
on
the
county
and
behavioral
health
services,
county
board
and
behavioral
health
services
did
not
act
on
implementing
this
tool.
I
will
state.
Certainly
there
are.
F
There
are
a
difference
of,
I
think,
intention
behind
why
I
initially
was
looking
at
this
tool
and
and
counselor
mccamus.
We
we
still
agreed
on
the
use
of
the
tool,
but
I
don't
necessarily
want
that
to
be
confused
and
I
also
have
never
been
homeless.
And
so
I
do
respect
paul's
opinion
at
times
paul
and
I
have
had
to
agree
to
disagree
on
certain
items.
F
But
I
will
say
that
in
this
regard,
in
the
experience
I've
had
over
the
last
six
years,
there
is
a
very
small
percentage
of
our
unhoused
community,
specifically
small
percentage
of
them
that
are
mentally
ill,
but
to
such
an
extreme
level
and
for
such
a
long
duration
that
have
just
been
through
our
system
in
and
out
whether
it's
traditional
outpatient
treatment
that
the
county
offers
that's
unassisted,
eps
on
72-hour
holds,
which
traditionally
are
under
24
hours
in
and
out
of
jail,
even
the
best
solutions
that
we
have
to
date
in
regards
to
permanent
housing
like
our
permanent
supportive
housing
development
that
we
have
in
district
3
here,
and
we
still
see
a
small
percentage
of
individuals
that
can't
even
succeed
there
and
really
that,
quite
frankly,
it's
it's
a
a
need
for
even
more
direct
treatment,
and
with
that,
the
the
reality
is.
F
These
really
impactful
in
in
in
heinous
crimes
that
we've
seen
of
late
in
the
community-
and
I
don't
at
all,
want
to
you-
know,
throw
a
blanket
and
try
to
associate
all
of
our
our
own
house
community.
I
think
I
want
to
make
it
very
clear
and,
as
I've
said
numerous
times,
we're
talking
about
a
small
percentage,
but
it
is
a
small
percentage
that
can
have
an
overwhelming
impact
on
our
community
and
laura's
law
or
assisted
outpatient
treatment,
as
it's
called
allows.
F
Us
to
compel
treatment
for
the
mentally
ill
and
that
that
is
a
fancy
word,
and
so,
as
paul
states,
it's
correct
right,
it's
it's!
It
is
taking
somebody
into
custody
for
treatment.
We
don't
have
that
tool
today,
so
I
know
that
you
know
we
have.
We
have
today
eps
and
that's
it,
and
so
absolutely
we
have
interactions
that
with
our
police
that
end
fatally
with
individuals
in
experiencing
mental
illness.
F
That's
what
I
want
to
avoid
as
well,
but
I
want
to
avoid
it
by
giving
people
the
treatment
that
they
need
and
enacting
laura's
law
does
not
mean
that
we
need
officers
to
necessarily
go
out
there
and
make
arrests
to
get
people
into
treatment.
In
fact,
as
my
memo
states,
75
percent
of
individuals
referred
to
assist,
outpatient
treatment
actually
opted
in
voluntarily
to
begin
with,
and
they
may
not
have
wanted
to
stay
right
as
other
treatment
systems
and
traditional
outpatient
treatment
would
allow
them
to
come
and
go
assisted.
F
Outpatient
treatment
is,
is
intended
to
be
there
to
help
somebody
through
that
would
traditionally
you
know
quit
or
walk
out
of
a
program
that
was
voluntary
and
and
we've
seen
this
be
successful.
As
I
stated
in
my
memo,
19
counties
have
adopted
it.
The
reports
have
shown
reduction
in
violence
by
64
percent
homelessness
by
30
percent
hospitalization
by
33
percent
and
contact
with
law
enforcement
by
46
percent.
F
So
you
want
to
reduce
the
the
opportunity
for
somebody
experiencing
severe
mental
illness
to
interact
with
the
with
law
enforcement
and
potentially
end
in
in
a
death.
Reducing
it
by
46
percent
is
is
a
great
way
to
start,
especially
with
that
that
specific
population,
the
cost,
as
we
know
with
addressing
and
continuing
to
to
just
release
people
back
out
into
the
streets
without
a
real
solution.
F
F
So,
there's
all
sorts
of
implications
that
this
has,
and
here
locally
we
have
42
percent
of
individuals
in
san
jose
that
are
homeless,
that
have
reported
having
a
site,
chat,
psychiatric
emotional
condition,
that's
again
to
be
expected,
and
that's
not
the
number
that
we're
talking
about
that
we
would
be.
We
would
be
focusing
on
or
that
laura's
law
even
intends
to
focus
on
the
idea.
F
Is
it's
really
really
a
narrow
small
number
small
percentage
of
individuals
that
that
are
suffering
from
the
the
most
severe
and
extreme
cases
of
mental
illness
and
additionally,
have
shown
repeated
lack
of
success
in
the
systems
and
the
opportunities
we
have
today
and
an
additional,
showing
or
additionally
showing
violence
in
in
repeated
backs
of
violence
within
the
community?
F
Implementing
laura's
law
and
my
wife
will
serve
as
a
bridge
to
recovery
in
a
way
to
stop
that
revolving
door
of
just
repeatedly,
either
hospitalization
or
homelessness
or
in
and
out
of
jail
that
we
have
seen
for
so
many
people
ultimately
does
not
does
not
end
well,
does
not
end
in
them
having
living
out
successful
fulfilling
lives,
but
instead
we
see
a
lot
of
these
individuals
being
the
ones
that
die
on
our
streets
and,
in
my
mind,
adopting
laura's
law
incorporating
assisted
outpatient
treatment
will
help
people
get
on
their
own
two
feet,
provide
them
to
support
that
they
need
for
their
mental
health,
and
obviously
this
is
not
something
that
the
city
can
can
enact.
F
So
we
have
to
continue
to
advocate
that
the
county
includes
this
program
in
their
toolbox.
We
do
have
new
board
of
supervisors
right
on
the
county.
So
with
that
new
makeup,
as
well
as
new
leadership
within
the
behavior
health
services
of
the
county,
I
felt
it
was
important
that
we
bring
this
back
up,
and
I
know
that
the
city
administration
has
issued
their
position
in
the
fact
that
this
is
green
lit
because
of
the
work
has
already
been
prioritized,
and
I
do
appreciate
that
all
move
approval
thanks.
F
C
All
right,
it's
been
moved
and
seconded
councilmember
arenas.
H
Thank
you.
I
you
know,
I
I
appreciate
that
you
you're
bringing
up
the
mental
health
of
of
our
unhoused
community
councilmember
perales.
I
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
controversy
around
this
assisted
outpatient
treatment
and
especially
by
the
mental
health,
the
behavioral
health
department
and
in
our
county,
as
well
as
their
association
that
advocates
against
it.
Now
I
I
do
think
that
this
might
may
serve
as
another
tool
in
the
toolbox
right.
I
you
know
it's
not
the
end-all
and
I
don't
I
don't.
H
I
know
that
you
you're
not
that's
not
what
you're
saying
either.
I
just
don't
want
us
to
hang
our
hats
on
that.
I
think
this
for
me
really
prompts
like
the
the
need
for
the
conversation
about
our
unhoused
community
and
and
what
what
we
can
do
under
our
under
within
our
own
realm
right
and
I
think
their
police
department
is
taking
a
step
in
the
right
direction,
with
their
behavioral
health
unit,
with
eight
officers
that
are
going
to
be
permanent
from
here
on.
H
I,
I
think
that's
a
really
good
strategy.
It's
like
I
said
it's
just
another
tool
in
the
toolbox.
It's
not
going
to
answer
the
whole
issue,
but
I
I
do
think
that
this.
H
For
me,
it
would
be
helpful
for
us
to
maybe
reconnect
once
again
with
the
county
about
this,
because
I
know
that
there's
a
lot
of
issues
that
are
happening
even
before
the
pandemic,
and
this
was
still
during
the
recession
and
after
the
recession,
you
know
there
are
a
lot
of
families
who
just
never
really
recovered
from
the
recession,
our
mental
health
service
providers
being
one
of
them
a
lot
of
folks
who
were
you,
know,
outreach,
specialist
or
family
development
specialist
or
you
know
all
those
folks
were
in
that
supportive
network,
including
a
lot
of
our
mental
health
providers
that
would
meet
with
and
counsel
our
children
couldn't
afford
to
live
in
this
county
right,
and
so,
I
think,
there's
also
a
scarcity
of
mental
health
providers
in
our
county
that
we
need
to
address
along
with
maybe
pivoting,
just
a
little
bit
with
with
what
we're
doing
for
a
homeless
prevention
and
and
the
rest
of
the
you
know,
the
housing
plan
that
we
have
the
unhoused
plan
annual
plan
that
we
have
it.
H
I,
for
me
it's
like
this
is
a
a
really
large
conversation,
and
I
I
welcome
that.
This
topic
can
create
an
opening
for
that
conversation,
and
I
know
that
there's
some
incidents
that
you've
mentioned
that
really
just
broke
our
hearts
right,
having
two
people
die
and
three
people
wounded
at
a
at
a
shelter
is
just
unacceptable
and
it
and
I'm
glad
that
you're
raising
this
issue
up
again.
I
don't
necessarily
think
that
this
assisted
outpatient
treatment
is
the
answer,
because
it
is
outpatient.
H
It's
not
you
know
it's
not
gonna
house,
somebody
in
in
us
in
a
facility
somewhere
that
is
going
to
reduce
the
risk
to
our
community
community
and
the
interactions
with
our
community
or
with
our
police
officers
or
service
providers,
and
so
I
think,
there's
some
additional
conversations
we
need
to
have
about
that.
I
do
believe
that
this
may
be
part
of
the
toolbox
that
we
need
the
one
question
that
I
would
want
to
ask,
and
I
don't
know
if
maybe
this
is
part
of
the
legislative
team
or
just
maybe
you
know
this
answer.
H
I
know
that
you
were
quoting
the
san
francisco
efficacy.
I,
and
I
don't
know
for
what
the
time
frame
was.
I
think
it
was
just
a
month
right,
and
I
don't
know
if
that
was
recent
or
if
that
was
early
on.
I
just
wonder
how
are
those
other
counties
that
have
adopted
this
this
policy?
H
What
are
they
doing
that
are
that
is
different
in
this
county,
so
you
know
bottom
line
the
their
their
toolbox
might
be
enhanced
with
other
tools
other
than
just
this
outp
assisted
outpatient
treatment
and,
if
you've
found
any.
I
think
that's
important,
also
to
to
point
out,
because
this
might
not
be
the
solution,
it
might
have
been
like
three
different
strategies
that
they
they
took
on.
At
the
same
time,
I
think
you
you're
you,
you
you're
going
to
respond
to
something.
F
Okay,
yeah:
I
can
wait
after
that
or
councilman.
David
speaks.
I
Thanks,
I'm
happy
to
support
this.
I
just
have
one
question
lee
I
was.
I
thought
I
read
something
in
the
paper
about
laura's
law
being
an
opt-out
rather
than
an
opt-in,
and
I
did
I
just
looked
it
up
with
the
california
association
of
local
behavioral
health
boards
and
commissions.
I
They
just
have
on
their
web
page
a
2020
update,
new
california
legislation.
Ab-1976
requires
counties
to
participate
in
laura's
law
unless
they
opt
out.
Did
that
become
law
that
80
1976
and
therefore
we
would
be
this,
the
county
would
be
required
to
participate
or
is
that
are
they
looking
at
opting
out?
What
do
you
know
what
this
is.
G
Yeah,
I
would
actually,
I
think,
andrew's
out
and
alex
felton
from
our
igr
team
can
probably
answer
that
better
than
I
can
and
then
I
can
add
on
after
after
she
answers
that
thanks.
K
K
This
is
actually
a
good
time
to
reaffirm
the
county's
position
on
this,
because
it's
coming
up,
it's
actually
coming
up
for
consideration
again
at
the
county,
so
I
believe
the
bhsd
is
considering
this
and
bringing
it
to
the
health
and
hospitals
committee
next
week,
because
there
is
now
that
we've
now
come
to
the
point
where
the
county
can
make
a
decision
as
to
whether
or
not
they
want
to
opt
in
or
or
continue
as
as
operations
as
nor
as
they
currently
are.
So
that's
one
thing
that
we
are
we're
currently
monitoring.
K
So
they're
gonna
they're
gonna
start
the
staff
is
looking
at
it,
exploring
it
right
now
the
decision
whether
or
not
they
want
to
opt
in
and
don't
you
mean
don't
they
have
to
opt
out
at
this
point.
I
K
They
have
to
it's
it's
yeah,
so
the
decision
is
to
whether
or
not
they
want
to
opt
out,
and
so
it's
being
explored
by
staff.
The
first
step
is
the
committee
and
then
the
I
believe
the
plan
is
from
there.
It
would
go
to
the
board
of
supervisors,
probably
a
little
bit
later
in
the
spring
summer,
around
april,
for
a
final
decision.
A
I
And
then
so
reaffirming
this
today,
which
I'm
happy
to
do-
and
I
saw
it,
had
a
green
light
because
we've
already
talked
about
it.
Does
that
mean
that
you
will
be
communicating
with
the
county
about
the
city's
position
on
laura's
law
and
the
fact
that
we
don't
want
them
to
opt
out?
We
do
want
them
to
implement
exactly
okay,
absolutely.
K
I
G
Think
it'll
take
two
different
approaches
and
you
know
the
reason
I
agree
with
alex
is
actually
very
good
timing
because
of
the
bill,
so
I
think
there'll
be
direct
advocacy
from
you
know:
igr
staff
to
igr
staff
and
to
to
the
board
and
the
committee
on
your
behalf,
since
we
have
the
direction
to
do
to
ensure
they
don't
opt
out,
and
I
think
to
council
member
arenas,
this
point,
which
are
very
important.
G
This
is
one
tool
and
we
went
through
a
very
long
extensive
process
with
the
county
and
destination
home
around
the
community
plan
and
homelessness.
And
so
you
know
this.
This
is
one
of
those
tools
within
the
community
plan
around
you
know
needing
crisis
response
and
mental
health,
clinical
services
and
substance
treatment
and
a
variety
of
other
things
that
we
then
through
implementation
process
and
through
our
partnership
with
the
community
plan.
We
would
go
ahead
and
look
to
see
how
the
county
would
implement
it.
C
Before
I
go
to
council
member
crawls
to
answer
address
councilmember
arrangements,
questions
have
a
quick
question.
Governor
davis
brings
up
an
interesting
point,
so
if
I
understand
it
correctly,
since
the
county
hasn't
opted
out
yet
that
they
have
a
lord
laura's
law,
effectively
they're
under
lawrence
law
right
now,
would
that
be
a
correct
understanding
if
they
haven't
opt
out.
G
C
Okay,
the
other
reason
why
I
was
asking
that
question
is:
I
have
an
individual
in
my
district
who
we've
been
trying
to
house
and
provide
services
to
for
years
and
she's
in
a
very
difficult
situation:
she's
sleeping
outdoors,
she's,
washing
her
clothes
in
puddles
at
the
gas
station.
C
F
Yeah,
thank
you
and,
and
no
doubt
as
councilman
rodenna
says
this.
This
is
a
this
is
a
contentious
issue,
and
I
I
you
know
I've
kind
of
butted
heads
with
behavioral
health
service
professionals,
other
elected
officials,
you
name
it.
I
mean
right,
I
think,
there's
some
firm
beliefs
in
regards
to
this
as
a
tool.
F
F
This
is
for
a
small
fraction
of
the
community,
but
again
it
happens
to
be
a
fraction
of
the
community
that
is
truly
themselves
out
there
suffering
that
has
not
seen
success
in
the
other
services
that
we
have
and
just
wanted
to
to
respond
to
a
couple
of
things
as
councilmember
dennis
was
asking
number
one
that
the
two
reports
that
we
were
utilizing.
We
cited
them.
F
If
you
wanted
to
take
a
look
there
in
the
memo
with
links,
both
of
them
from
2019,
one
of
them
started
in
2018
that
looked
at
the
data,
and
it
was
specifically
actually
only
looking
at
the
population
that
went
into
assisted
outpatient
treatment.
So
it
was
looking
at
you
know,
sort
of
what
was
their
impact
when
they
were
out
of
assisting
outpatient
treatment
and
then,
after
they
were
entered
into
assisted
outpatient
treatment,
so
not
to
say
that
it's,
you
know
impossible
that
there
were
other
factors.
F
Clearly
that
you
know
a
lot
of
cities
like
san
francisco
are
trying
all
kinds
of
things.
This
is
just
one
tool,
but
but
the
studies
did
look
at
that
specifically,
and-
and
if
you
want
to
know
that
this
is
not
the
silver
bullet,
we
don't,
we
don't
have
to
look
far
right.
The
fact
that
san
francisco
may
see
some
success
in
assisted
outpatient
treatment.
F
It
has
not
solved
homelessness
in
san
francisco,
so
it's
not
gonna
solve
it
here
either,
but
both
of
those
those
studies
are
cited
there
and
you
can
take
a
look.
The
other
thing,
as
you
mentioned,
was
that
this
is
outpatient
treatment.
I
think
the
the
nuance
that
I'll
highlight
there,
for
you
is
the
assisted
part
of
this
in
the
title.
Assisted
outpatient
treatment
is
the
difference.
Everything
that
we
have
right
now
in
the
county
is
outpatient
treatment.
All
of
it.
F
The
only
you
know,
sort
of
permanent
is
what
we
have
is
permanent,
supportive
housing
which
it's
supportive.
So
it
has
some
support
services
and
it's
obviously
permanent
housing,
but
even
in
permanent
supportive
housing.
As
I
stated,
it
does
not
show
100
success
rates,
some
of
the
best
around
95
percent,
but
that
still
means
you
have
around
5
percent,
a
small
percentage
of
individuals
for,
for
one
reason
or
another,
and
mental
health
is
high
up
there
on
that
list.
F
I
know
this
because
I'm
dealing
with
it
right
with
the
incidents
that
are
happening
in
second
street
studios
or
villas
in
the
park
and
the
the
biggest
complaints
not
only
coming
from
the
residents
in
and
around
those
developments,
but
actually
from
the
residents
inside
the
development,
so
that
the
other
formerly
homeless,
individuals
that
now
reside
in
those
permanent
supportive
housing
developments.
F
That
also
complain
and
are
struggling
with
some
of
their
neighbors,
because
those
neighbors
are
really
really
struggling
with
severe
mental
illness
and
and
permanent
sort
of
housing
is
not
exactly
right
that
that
location
it.
It
does
a
hell
of
a
job,
and
it
shows
really
good.
F
Success
and
that's
per
the
data
and
and
and
what
we
do
see
and
as
the
vice
mayor
points
out
and
as
others
and
I've
got
numerous
examples
right.
There
are
some
people
in
our
community
that
we
don't
have
a
tool
for
right
now.
F
This
tool
may
not
help
them,
but
from
the
statistics
that
we've
seen
it's
the
only
tool
that
it's
targeted
to
that
population
and
it's
the
only
tool
that
we're
not
utilizing
at
the
moment
for
this
this
population,
and
so
in
my
mind,
I
I
don't
like
to
stick
with
the
default,
because
the
default's
not
working
I'm
open,
clearly
open
to
other.
F
You
know
solutions
and
not
saying
this
is
the
only
one
we
should
be
focused
on
you
know,
hence
why
I've
supported
numerous
supportive
housing
projects
and
other
developments
and
and
more
than
happy
as
paul
knows,
to
work
with
him
or
others
in
our
community,
and
I
have
an
upcoming
meeting
with
the
new
director
of
behavioral
health
services
to
work
with
her
even
right
as
we
butt
heads.
My
goal
is
to
work
with
the
other
professionals
to
be
able
to
help
our
community
members.
F
I
happen
to
have
a
personal
opinion
in
regards
to
this
tool
and
and
the
fact
that
we
have
not
utilized
it
and
it
has
shown
success
across
the
state.
I
don't
see
that
there's
a
good
argument
that
we
shouldn't
be
implementing
this
tool
and
and
seeing
how
it
can
help
these
particular
population
of
our
community
members
and
so,
and
I
I
want
to
thank
our
our
intergovernmental
relations
team.
Thank
you
alexander
for
being
here
and
I
I
was
not
aware
of
the
timeline
that
the
county
had
on
on
hearing
this.
F
So
and
that's
you
know,
so
it
is
rather
timely
that
wasn't.
This
is
not
necessarily
the
what
we
had
in
mind,
but
I'm
glad
that
we
did
do
this
then,
at
this
time,
and
hopefully
this
can
prepare
us
to
better
advocate
as
we
work
with
our
county.
You
know
over
the
next
several
months,
and
so
thank
you
for
for
that.
C
Thank
you,
council,
member
davis,
I
see
your
hand
is
still
up.
It's
do
you
want
to
try
it
back
in.
I
Yes,
I
just
I
got
a
message
from
one
of
the
members
of
the
public
who
tried
to
put
their
hand
up
and
it
didn't
it
didn't
go
up,
and
so
the
person
with
the
phone
number
ending
in
6910
would
like
to
comment
on
this
item.
A
C
C
A
C
Nine
ten
person
ending
in
six
nine
six,
nine
ten
go
ahead.
L
They
had
mental
health
issues
when
they
lived
there
and
they
still
have
mental
health
issues
there,
because
their
mental
health
issues
were
not
addressed.
They
did
not
have
the
proper
support
mental
health
issues
for
for
their
mental
health
issues
while
they
live
there,
and
so
now
those
are
probably
going
to
be
the
same
people
that
you
guys
are
going
to
go
ahead
and
laura
saw,
and
I
think
that
that
is
really
a
shame.
L
C
F
Yeah,
sorry
I'll
I'll
be
brief,
and-
and
you
know
I
think,
that's
actually
the
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
you
know
we
should
kind
of
be
more
more
broad
in
our
conversations
as
far
as
what
it
is
that
we
actually
have
with
permanent
supportive
housing,
and
I
think
some
have
the
belief
that
it
is
it
is.
F
It
is
going
to
be
able
to
solve
all
of
our
issues
with
homelessness,
but
permanent,
supportive
housing
is
not
a
mental
hospital
and
it's
not
meant
or
intended
to
completely
house
and
and
successfully
house
individuals
that
are
all
suffering
from
mental
health
issues
it.
It
can
help
some
of
them,
but
it's
not
intended
to
help
all
of
them.
They,
because
that's
that's,
not
how
it's
built
out
and-
and
indeed
we
see
some
people
failing
there.
I
I
would
not
disagree
with
the
caller
that
we
need
to.
F
We
need
to
be
able
to
look
at
all
of
these,
because
secondary
studios
was
the
first
one
and
we
need
to
learn
what
we're
not
doing
well
enough
there
to
make
it
even
more
successful
than
it
is
today
and
we're
doing
that.
Actually,
now
in
my
office
convening
with
all
the
stakeholders
there
to
try
to
see
what
we
can
do
at
second
street
studios,
because
we
can't
fail
at
these
and
and
we've
said
this
numerous
times.
I
said
this
when
we
were
approving
second
street
studios
being
the
first
one.
F
If
we
fail
at
second
street
studios,
then
nobody
around
the
county
is
going
to
want
to
build
permanent,
affordable
housing
because
they're
going
to
say
it
doesn't
work
and
whether
you're
in
the
unhoused
community
or
you're
in
the
house,
community,
you're
going
to
say
hey.
This
doesn't
work,
so
we
can't
fail.
That
doesn't
mean
that
we're
going
to
be
perfect
out
the
gate,
but
we
need
to
learn
from
it.
But
at
the
same
time,
just
like
laura's
law
is
not
the
silver
bullet.
F
Neither
is
permanent
sort
of
housing
and
we
need
to
be
able
to
to
incorporate
all
the
different
tools,
and
this
is
one
of
them
again
that
has
been
left
on
the
table
and
it
shouldn't
be.
C
D
Soto,
thank
you,
council.
We
can
really
do
some
good
work
in
in
both
these
areas,
because
these
this
is
related
to
the
memo
that
you
had
just
given
before,
and
I
really
really
thank
the
previous
caller
because
she
articulated
very
clearly
these
pieces
that
are
missing
from
the
overall
conversation
that
we're
not
able
to
insert
it.
D
I
really
like
this
particular
memo
of
councilman
perales,
because
you,
you
are
cognizant
of
the
fact
that
you
just
don't
go
and
bulldoze
somebody's
pad
because
they
feel
safe,
homeless
people
are
very
territorial
and
and
and
they
we
feel
safe
in
our
areas.
That's
why
I'll
never
leave
the
horseshoe.
When
I
was
homeless,
I
was
along
the
guadalupe
right
there
where
the
horseshoe
was
at
you
know,
so
I'm
very
connected
with
this
community
they're
connected
with
me.
They
trust
me,
you
know
and
and
I've
given
them
reasons
to
trust
them.
You
know
I
I'm.
D
I
have
relationships
already
built
in
to
the
service
to
different
service
providers
and
people
that
are
coming
new
into
the
field
that
the
county
has
already
trusted
to
establish
these
programs.
You
know
so
specific.
So
that's
why
I'd
really
like
to
start
working
with
you
on
this,
so
that
I
can
provide
so
I
can
be
a
conduit
and
connect
all
these
services,
I'm
also
in
the
process
of
getting
connected
with
stanford
university
and
using
them
as
a
resource
they're
in
santa
clara
county.
D
D
With
respect
to
this
memo,
though,
I
really
like
the
fact
that
you're
using
the
sanctioned
encampments,
which
which
we've
been
talking
about
for
the
past
couple
years,
but
this
one
now
you're
bringing
it
into
fruition
because
to
just
wipe
out
somebody's
household
and
not
be
sensitive
to
the
fact
that
this
person
has
to
relocate,
but
at
least
having
some
means
by
where
they
can
go
and
receive
some
kind
of
services
for
for
the
lack
thereof.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you,
paul
blair,.
E
All
right,
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
this
item.
Thank
you
for,
for
both
of
these
items
and
the
words
of
sean
cartwright
cartwright
able
to
being
allowed
to
speak,
she
really
offered
and
contributed
a
lot.
So
thanks
for
that
yeah
for
for
this
item,
you
know
robert
aguirre
was
coming
in
to
city
council
meetings
the
end
of
december,
and
I
guess
early
january-
and
you
know
really
making
the
point
that
I
hope
the
memo
that
you
offered
today.
E
I
will
look
at
it
soon,
but
that
you
will
be
wanting
to
work
on
the
idea
of
a
how
people
from
the
homeless
community
can
can
form
a
a
council
and
be
a
commission
or
committee
a
part
of
the
commission
process
in
san
jose
of
some
in
some
way,
and
you
know
just
for
their
voice
to
be
more
heard
and
a
more
regular
part
of
of
community
life.
I
I
think,
is
important
to
have
that
voice.
The
idea
you
know
the
spotlight.
E
We
ran
an
article
that
featured
a
council
person
perales
a
week
or
two
ago.
You
know
that
you
know
neighbors
are
upset
and
tired
of
the
homeless
they're.
Just
you
know
there
always
has
to
be
new
commitments
to
communication
and
dialogue
and
and
just
for
people
to
feel
safe.
E
You
know
and
to
make
those
steps,
so
things
can
be
safe
and
that
that
always
takes
energy
and
effort,
and
people
like
the
mayor's
aide
paul
pereira
is
always
working
always
working
towards
that
kind
of
stuff,
and
I
can
consider
his
efforts.
What
he's
trying
to
create
for
the
community
at
this
time
and
he's
really
trying
to
create
important
things,
and
it's
it's
just
the
effort
of
good
communication
and
dialogue,
and
I
think,
having
people
if
I
have
enough
time
left
here.
A
Hello,
my
name
is
brian.
I
would
kind
of
like
to
echo
the
words
from
the
previous
speaker.
I
think,
having
kind
of
a
council
or
committee
of
unhoused
people
would
be
a
good
idea.
I
do
have
some
concerns.
I
think,
on
the
second
bullet
point
on
this
recommendation
about
continuing
abatements
past
the
coca-19
crisis.
I
do
especially
with
a
lack
of
housing
opportunities.
A
I
think
we're
just
going
to
see
a
lot
of
the
same
issues
that
we
had
prior
to
covid,
where
we're
just
going
to
keep
people
in
a
continual
cycle,
pushing
them
out
of
places
and
then
continuing
to
have
to
do
that.
I
think
we
do
need
to
look
for
larger
scale,
housing
developments
that
to
fix
that.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you
person
with
the
number
ending
in.
C
L
Yeah,
I'm
not
gonna
be
able
to
support
anything
of
that
involves
sweeps.
I
just
can't.
I
think
that
right
now,
we've
essentially
got
we've
backed
into
sanction
encampments
already
so,
and
I
think
that
right
now,
everyone
knows
where
to
find
folks
in
camps
whether
it's
outreach
workers
advocates
police
health
care
workers.
Everyone
knows
where
everyone
is
in
the
camps,
and
I
think
that
that's
great
it's
made
people
much
more
stable.
We
can
send
out
hey.
We
just
found,
like
you
know,
a
mom
and
three
kids
and
the
city.
L
The
county
knows
where
to
find
people
and
that's
much
more
stable
for
everybody.
The
camps
are
growing,
they've
been
exploding
ever
since
covid
started
week
by
week,
so
starting
sweeps
is
not
going
to
help
anything
and
you're
sweeping
them
to
where
to
what
like
magical
like
new
navigation
center
or
new
housing
or
new
shelter,
you're
sweeping
them
just
to
somewhere
else,
and
that's
nowhere.
L
So
I
couldn't
agree
with
that
and,
if
you're
a
great
idea,
but
also
vaccinate
us
we're
going
into
the
camps
all
the
time,
we're
constantly
getting
pulled
that
we
got
exposed
here
and
exposed
there
so
vaccinate
the
advocates
that
are
going
in
there
all
the
time
and
the
outreach
workers.
We
are
front
line
workers,
but
their
sleep
should
not
start
just
beef
up
the
beautify.
The
out
the
housing
department
has
a
great
four-step
process.
I
think
there's
nothing
wrong
with
that
process.
J
Good
afternoon
again,
vice
mayor
jones,
members
of
the
committee,
scott
nice,
san
jose
downtown
association.
This
item
is
certainly
connected
to
the
previous
one,
just
that
tough
balancing
act
between
health
and
safety
concerns
and
compassion
for
those
who
are
suffering
in
our
community
councilman
perales
gets
almost
all
of
the
emails
that
I
get
complaining
about.
The
messes,
but
he's
got
much
larger
territory
than
just
downtown
throughout
the
district,
and
these
are
unsanctioned
encampments.
J
Now
that
haven't
been
touched
since
march,
and
we
have
a
number,
we
had
a
fire
last
week
across
from
the
children's
discovery
museum.
We
have
warming
fires,
some
very
dangerous
conditions
with
with
the
trash
and
vermin,
and
we
we
need
to
clean
up
some
of
these
public
areas.
I
I
believe,
there's
nobody,
that's
more
in
tune
with
this
balancing
act
than
councilman
paralysis,
suggesting
that
we
move
these
into
sanctioned
encampments,
finding
the
places
for
that
we
don't
want
to
just
do
whack-a-mole
and
cycle
and
move
folks
from
one
encampment
to
another.
J
We
do
need
long-term
solutions,
but
in
the
meantime
there
are
other
victims.
Besides
the
unhoused
here
that
we
have
to
take
into
consideration
and
we
get
the
emails-
sometimes
you
know
15
times
a
day
from
from
the
folks
that
are
very
concerned
about
their
health
and
safety.
So
we
need
to
balance
all
of
this
extremely
difficult,
we're
there
with
you.
We
want
to
be
part
of
the
solution.
M
Hi
good
afternoon,
establishing
sanctioned
encampments
is
the
only
way
to
keep
our
unhoused
folks
safe.
I've
been
advocating
for
sanctioned
encampments
for
many
many
years.
One
thing
when
the
abatements
are
happening.
Believe
me
there
is,
and
there
is
no
way
that
it
has
ever
been
a
careful
approach.
M
The
unhoused
folks
are
already
in
crisis
living
outdoors
with
nothing
and
then
when
they
see
all
these
people
coming
in
and
taking
things
from
them
and
moving
them
around
they're
still
in
crisis
and
it's
worse
outreach
services
are
not
offering
much,
maybe
one
or
two
bags
the
people
that
go
out.
There
only
offer
a
homeless
shelter
only
a
shelter.
M
No
unhoused
person
wants
to
go
into
a
shelter
because
of
how
it
is
run,
staff
steals
from
them
and
right
now
there
is
a
virus,
they're
scared
to
death.
They
are
safer
outdoors,
there
hasn't
been
a
large
outbreak,
so
I
go
to
encampments
every
single
day
and
there
hasn't
been,
thank
god,
a
large
outbreak
of
their
biowas.
They
feel
safe
living
with
their
other
unhoused
friends.
They
call
family
outdoors
and
that
we
should
be
keeping.
I
went
to
an
abatement
today
and
I'm
not
happy
about
it.
They
abated
today.
M
The
city
has
already
abated
one
large
encampment
on
roberts.
That's
against
the
cdc
guidelines.
I
do
appreciate
raoul,
suggesting
vaccinating
the
unhouse.
I
think
it's
great,
but
you
can't
do
that
if
you're
abating,
they
need
to
be
in
the
same
place
and
not
be
pushed
around
like
they
were
today
after
the
abatement.
So
thank
you
for
at
least
having
that
that
good
suggestion,
council
person,
paralysis
about
vaccination.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you,
gail
bring
it
back
to
the
committee
council,
member
corrales.
F
Yeah
thank
you
and,
as
you
can
tell,
obviously
I've
been
trying
to
work
on
how
we
might
be
able
to
address
some
of
these
major
challenges
that
we've
seen
rise
up
during
the
pandemic.
F
That
really
has
just
exasperated
challenges
that
we
know
that
we've
had
for
for
years
and
and
in
fact
I've
been
saying
this
to
staff
for
months
and
what
sean
cartwright
mentioned,
that
we
we
have
been
backed
into
quote:
unquote:
sanctioning
campaigns,
they're
still
unsanctioned
at
the
moment,
but
we've
essentially
been
backed
into
it,
and
because
of
that,
there
are
several
of
them
that
are
located
in
locations
that
are
not
ideal
and
in
fact,
some
of
them
located
in
places
that
we,
as
the
city,
wouldn't
even
have
the
legal
authority
to
make
them
sanction
encampments.
F
Specifically,
like
the
guadalupe
park
and
gardens
that
we
know
the
faa
has
come
in
even
previously,
because
that's
where
we
had
hope,
village
and
and
per
faa
and
and
was
actually
the
state
that
came
in
on
that
one
and
cleared
out
that
on
some
state
property
and
we've
already
heard
from
faa
and
our
airport,
that
that
there's
there's
right,
there's
almost
just
waiting
for
that
that
time
bomb
to
hit
of
of
people.
F
F
Seeing
that
this
was
coming,
I
wanted
to
lay
out
some
strategies
number
one,
the
the
I
think,
the
most
important
part
and,
as
I
mentioned
there
in
regards
to
vaccinations
granted,
we
we
don't
make
that
call
here
at
the
city.
We've
had
plenty
of
debates
about
that
and
we'll
talk
about
that
as
we
just
approved
on
our
agenda
for
a
discussion
in
two
weeks
about
the
county
and
the
distribution
of
vaccinations,
but
I
wanted
to
make
that
clear,
because
I
agree
that
right
now,
what
we
have
is.
F
We
have
individuals
that
are
unhoused
very
vulnerable
in
our
communities
and
they
are
for
the
most
part
when
they're
in
these
encampments
are.
You
know
we're
they're
easy
to
be
to
be
located
as,
as
has
been
pointed
out,
and
what
that
means
is
that
if
we
want
to
get
vaccinations
out
to
this
community
well,
we
have
to
take
advantage
of
that.
The
fact
that
for
the
most
part,
abatements
are
not
going
on
right
now.
Indeed,
as
dale
points
out,
there
are
some.
F
The
city
does
have
authority
and,
as
the
county
has
pointed
out,
and
even
the
cdc
guidelines,
there
are
limited
reasons
where
you
can
come
in
and
make
a
higher
priority
health
decision
to
clear
out
an
encampment.
We
have
not
utilized
that
very
often
at
all,
there's
a
couple
times
where
we
have
in
the
city,
but
for
the
most
part
you
look
around,
especially
my
district
right.
F
We
have
not
been
utilizing
that
as
a
tool
and
instead
have
have
been
preventing
any
abatements,
but
we
want
to
be
able
to
get
these
individuals
vaccinated
before
any
sort
of
sense
of
of
of
normalcy
comes
back
in
the
community
and
and
we
get
the
pre-pandemic
encampment
management
or
abatements
happening.
And
so
that's
why
I
made
that
as
a
number
one
priority
there,
and
indeed
we
have
to
advocate
that
to
the
county.
F
So
hopefully,
some
of
the
callers
that
called
in
can
can
support
that
effort
as
well
that
we
get
them
prioritized,
I'm
not
against
also
including
the
the
outreach
teams
that
go
out
there
to
support
them,
because
I
would
agree
that
and
in
fact
I
think
a
number
of
them
already
qualify
as
as
emergency
workers,
and
so
should
be
able
to
to
get
that
today,
and
I
know
our
nonprofit
groups
that
are
out
there
advocates-
may
not
fall
in
because
they're,
not
necessarily
working
within
with
any
of
the
nonprofit
organizations,
but
I
wouldn't
be
against
adding
that
into
the
advocacy
and
and
I'll
do
that
in
the
motion
for
number
two.
F
This
is
happening
again
regardless.
I
know
that
abatements
don't
solve
homelessness
and
I've
never
pretended
to
say
that
they
do
but
at
the
same
time,
the
lack
of
actually
managing
the
unsanctioned
encampments
out
there.
What
it
does
do
is
it
brings
with
it
a
whole
host
of
new
challenges
and
issues
not
just
for
our
housed
community
or
the
businesses
that
are
in
the
area,
but
for
our
unhoused
community
themselves,
we've
had
homicides.
Now
the
first
homicide
of
the
year
happened
in
the
one
of
the
encampments
right
off
of
the
guadalupe.
F
In
my
district
we
had
a
homicide
last
year
happen
in
the
guadalupe
park
and
gardens
when
we're
not
managing
these
areas,
and
we've
seen
that
historically,
even
in
sanctioned
encampments-
and
I
know
that
that's
where
our
housing
team
has
pushed
back
on
me
over
the
years
and
even
the
mayor
has
pushed
back
on
me
over
the
years
on
this
idea
of
sanctioning
campus.
This
is,
I
don't
know
fifth
time
or
something
I've
brought
it
forward
because
of
the
cities
that
have
implemented,
sanctioned
encampments
and
then
see
them.
F
You
know
have
to
be
terminated
due
to
failure
and
crime,
and
you
name
it,
and
I
still
firmly
believe
that
we
can
run
a
successful
sanction.
Encampment
and
quite
frankly,
I
think
we
have
some
examples
of
that
that
have
been
forced
upon
us
through
this
last
year,
because
we
have
seen
that
if
we
provide
a
basic
level
of
services
in
some
of
these
encampments,
that
we
can
maintain
them
and
manage
them
and
and
that's
not
to
be
said
again
for
for
all
of
the
locations.
F
But
I
do
think
that
we
can.
We
can
do
this
successfully
in
in
certain
locations,
and
so-
and
I
know
it's
been
successful
because
we've
seen
that
you
know
and
we've
had
a
number
of
of
concerns
in
some
of
these
other
locations,
whether
it's
guadalupe
park
and
gardens
that
the
faa
wouldn't
allow
the
sites
to
to
exist.
Anyways
we've
had
some
locations
where
we've
had
multiple
fires
that
are
that
are
places
that
are
right
next
to
residential
homes.
F
In
fact,
one
home
that
caught
on
fire
in
my
district
in
locations
that
are
along
our
creeks
and
waterways.
That
also
we
would
be
forced,
regardless
by
the
state,
to
to
clear
an
encampment.
But
there
are
locations
where
we
can
actually
have
some
sanction,
encampments
and,
and
I'm
more
than
happy
to
have.
F
If
we're
only
doing
one-
which
I
don't
think
that's
enough,
but
if
we
are
I'm
more
than
happy
to
have
that
be
in
district,
three,
I've
said
that
time
and
again-
and
you
know-
I
think
I
certainly
and
as
was
pointed
out-
I
think
maybe
blair
pointed
out
the
the
recent
media
that
came
forward.
You
know
I
hear
it
from
both
sides
of
this
issue.
F
Quite
frankly,
I
was
living
in
the
market
almond
neighborhood
when
we
transitioned
the
south
hall
blue
tent
into
shelter,
and
you
know
I
had
some
of
my
own
neighbors
chastising
me
for
supporting
it
and
at
the
same
time
I
would
regularly
take
my
son
on
walks
around
the
block
in
his
stroller
and
and
it
was
not
uncommon
to
get
harassed
by
some
of
those
same
residents
that
were
living
in
the
tent
that
were
maybe
outside
hanging
out
drinking
likely
suffering
from
other
challenges
and
issues.
F
Drug
use,
mental
health
whatever
and
we'd
get
harassed
and
and-
and
I
still
was
in
support
of
those
specifically
that
south
hall,
tent
and
even
just
as
recently
as
monday,
grabbing
dinner
at
the
sofa
market.
F
With
my
wife
and
my
son,
just
stepping
out
of
the
car
happened
to
have
an
individual
that
just
so
happened
to
be
a
resident
of
the
south
hall
tent
as
well
threatened
to
kick
my
ass
and
my
son's
ass
and
excuse
my
french,
but
that
was
the
words
that
he
used
and-
and
this
is
my
two-year-old
kid
I
I
you
know-
I
get
plenty
of
community
members
that
will
will
chastise
me
for
for
support
of
of
these
solutions
and
even
some
within
the
unhoused
community,
right
that
or
advocates
as
well.
F
I
hear
it
from
all
sides
and
I
think,
scott
and
he's
pointed
out
well,
I
I
try
to
find
a
delicate
balance
and
it's
not
always
easy,
but
I
still
support
these
solutions,
whether
it's
the
temporary
shelter,
whether
it's
sanctioned
encampments.
F
I
know
these
individuals
need
help
and
if
I
was
there,
that's
what
I
would
want
I'd
want
somebody
to
help
me
and-
and
I
think
that
that's
what
we
have
an
opportunity
to
do.
You
know
the
the
the
recent
article
that
came
out
had
individuals
wanting
to
vilify
our
our
unhoused
community
members
and
even
the
statement.
F
Even
they
came
into
my
office
in
an
email
that
was
highlighted,
there
was
calling
them
parasites
and
and
an
interest
in
just
writing
off
or
eliminating
the
parasites
within
our
own
health
community,
and
I
I
I
had
to
respond
to
that.
I
want
to
thank
the
ceo
of
destination
jennifer
loving
as
we
work
together
to
quickly
respond
to
that.
That
is
not
the
way
we
should
be
treating
or
associating
anybody
in
our
own
house
community.
F
I
understand
there
are
challenges
that
our
community
is
feeling
our
business
communities
are
feeling,
but
these
are
fellow
human
beings
of
ours
and
certainly
constituents
of
mine
when
they're
living
here
in
the
downtown,
and
it's
it's
to
my
advantage
and
everybody's
quite
frankly
that
we
look
for
solutions
and-
and
this
is
one
of
those
solutions-
just
like
the
last
item-
we
were
talking
about
a
tool
in
the
toolbox
that
we
have
not
yet
implemented
in,
and
this
is
at
the
city's
jurisdiction,
which
is
a
sanction
encampment
so
now
being
a
year
into
covid,
we're
about
to
be
mass
roll
out
of
distribution
of
the
vaccines.
F
I
think
this
gives
us
opportunity
to
be
able
to
look
at
this
again,
both
the
sanctioned
encampments,
as
we
begin
to
revamp
up
our
re-ramp
up
our
abatement,
man
or
our
encampment
management
and
abatements
and
and
just
wanna,
ask
I
know,
staff
didn't
have
a
a
response
on
this
one
at
least
not
written.
So
I
wanted
to
see
if
the
city
manager's
office
has
a
any
response
in
regards
to
the
directions
proposed
in
the
memo.
G
Sure,
thank
you,
council
member
peralts,
appreciate
that
you
know
city
manager
released
an
informational
memo
last
week
around
the
encampment
abatement
program
and
specifically
kind
of
what
what
we've
done
as
a
city
from
august
to
I
think
you
know
of
a
few
weeks
ago,
and
in
that
memorandum
we
kind
of
teed
up
that
we
would
be
bringing
you
know
a
policy
conversation
with
the
council
to
better
weigh
in
on
this,
given
some
of
the
the
impacts
that
have
been
discussed
today.
G
So
we
didn't
do
a
forum
because
I
think
the
administration
would
recommend
that
this
memorandum
roll
up
into
that
conversation.
So
the
report
back
that
I
think
council
member
perales
is
seeking.
That
would
be
part
of
the
policy
conversation
that
we
would
be
teeing
up
and
we're
trying
to
target
the
middle
of
march.
For
that
conversation,
especially
with
recommendation
one
to
see
how
the
vaccine
program
is
rolled
out
through
the
county,
so
we
have
additional
information.
F
Okay
and
actually
in
regards
to
I'm
fine
with
rolling
that
up-
and
I
did
see
that
that
memo
from
the
city
manager's
office,
but
in
regards
to
number
one-
wouldn't
it
make
sense
to
try
to
provide
that
advocacy
sooner
than
that
march
conversation.
Wouldn't
it
just
make
sense
to
provide
that
advocacy
as
soon
as
possible.
G
Yes,
possibly
I
mean
in
some
ways
you
know
the
legislative
guiding
principles
that
the
full
council
adopted
gives
us
flexibility
to
advocate.
Here
I
would
say,
as
as
we've
discussed
over
the
last
48
hours,
we
have
a
lot
of
requests
and
advocacy
points
with
the
county
around
the
vaccination
program,
so
we're
happy
to
roll
this
into
part
of
that
conversation.
But
again
that
is
a
fairly
exhausted
list.
So
I
didn't
want
to
promise
on
an
outcome
or
report
back
in
any
in
any
specificity
council
member.
F
G
Certainly
think
if
we
have
additional
details
around
the
county's
plan
to
vaccinate
our
unhoused
and
our
own
house
residents
for
february
23rd,
if
we
have
that
information,
we
can
absolutely
report
back
as
part
of
that
conversation
for
number
one.
I
think
the
kind
of
global
memo
or
number
two
and
three
really
probably
belongs
in
that
conversation
later
on
in
march.
G
I
do
know
that
the
county
had
established
at
one
point,
a
working
group
to
think
through
this,
the
vaccination
program
for
our
own
house
community
and
the
logistics
around
it,
and
a
lot
of
conversation
about
the
johnson
and
johnson
vaccine,
keeping
it
a
single
dose
might
be
the
most
effective
given
the
appointments,
but
other
than
that.
I
have
not
heard
anything
back
from
the
county.
So
we
can.
We
can
push
and
try
and
get
more
information
for
two
weeks
as
part
of
the
vaccination
update.
F
Okay
and
look-
I
don't
disagree
that
recommendation
two
and
three
would
make
most
sense
to
loop
in
in
march.
I
do
think,
though,
that
this
conversation
on
the
advocacy
you
know,
I
don't
think
anybody
can
argue
that
our
own
house
community
is
not
a
vulnerable
community
and,
quite
frankly,
knowing
that
they
could
be
abated,
and
that's
why
I'm
making
this.
You
know
clear
that
I
think
that
we
need
to
advocate
for
this
to
have.
You
know
this
to
happen.
F
First,
before
we
go
out
and
and
really
resume
any
sort
of
pre-pandemic
encampment
management
or
abatement,
because
at
that
point,
then
we
lose
them
right
in
in
an
easy
opportunity
that
we
have
to
be
able
to
to
connect
with
them.
F
And
so-
and
I
don't
disagree
with
the
potential
of
the
johnson
johnson
vaccine
because
it
is
a
one-
you
know
one
shot
so
makes
it
even
easier,
but
that's
that's
not
yet
available,
and
so
I
would
be
interested
in-
and
I
guess
so
right
now,
if
we
can
have
this
conversation
on
recognition
number
one
a
little
bit
more
in
detail
in
two
weeks
and
because
I'd
like
to
advocate
sooner
than
waiting
for
you
know
march
on
this,
and
I'm
I'm
happy
to
take
feedback
from
my
colleagues
here
on
rules
and
their
thoughts
about
about
that
I'll.
F
Make
a
motion
so
that
they
can.
They
can
chew
on
it
exactly
what
I'm
suggesting,
but
I
I
would
note,
especially
because
I've
obviously
been
advocating
for
certain
distributions
and
and
equitable
distributions
of
the
vaccine.
We
know
that
within
our
own
house
communities
we
have
a
disproportionate
number
of
those
individuals
that
are
that
are
of
latino
de
center
or
or
a
latino,
a
black
that
you
know
that
tend
to
be
represented
disproportionately
within
there
as
well
and
and
just
indeed
just
much
more
vulnerable
population.
F
So
I
I
would
put
them
up
there
as
a
someone
we
should
be
advocating
for,
but
I'm
happy
to
hear
from
my
colleagues
and
so
the
motion
I'll
give
would
be
that
we
approve
my
memorandum
with
recommendation,
two
and
three
being
looped
into
the
city.
Manager's
encampment
report
that
they're
gonna
that
he's
gonna
provide
in
march
and
that
recommendation
number
one
come
forward
in
two
weeks
as
we
talk
about
the
county
vaccination
so
that
we
can
maybe
make
a
decision
sooner
on
sending
some
advocacy,
specific
advocacy.
C
Okay,
it's
been
moved
and
seconded
council
member
cohen.
B
Yeah,
I
just
want
to
thank
you,
counselor
propolis,
for
your
advocacy
on
this
issue.
I
mean
you,
you
have
you've,
provided
a
good
balance
of
what
we
need
in
solving
this
problem,
the
caring
for
the
community
of
the
in-house
community
and
advocacy
for
solutions
to
the
problem.
You
know
it's
a
tough
balance,
but
one
that's
important
and,
as
you
said,
you
know
you
hear
from
both
sides
on
this
issue,
and
you
know
I
hear
it
too.
B
They're,
human
too,
and
that's
obviously
what
we
have
to
balance,
and
you
know
I
think
you
and
I
are
inside
you
know
we
have
to
treat
them
with
respect
and
and
make
sure
that
we
take
care
of
our
our
homeless
neighbors,
but
we
also
need
to
find
solutions
that
are
going
to
take
care
of
our
our
communities
and,
as
you
said,
you
know
we're
dealing
in
our
district
with
fires
and
things
that
are
put
our
neighborhoods
at
risk.
B
I
I've
come
to
conclude
that
the
only
solution
that
really
in
order
to
coexist
with
the
unsanctioned
camps,
we
really
are-
have
to
turn
them
into
somewhat
sanctioned
camps
anyway,
right
we
have
to
provide
them
with
services
on
site.
We
have
to
provide
them
with
facilities
that
turn
them
into
somewhat
of
a
sanction
camp
in
certain
locations.
B
So
I
I'm
with
you
and
I'm
pushing
for
for
creating
sanctioned
locations,
and
that
may
mean
taking
places
that
are
already
unsanctioned
camps
and,
in
some
sense
sanctioning
them
so
that
they
have
facilities
and
resources
right
there
on
site
or
finding
other
locations
where
we
can
sanction
them.
While
you
said
you
know,
district
3
is
a
good
place
to
put
someone.
I
think
that
you
know
I
think
we
can
probably
find
locations
in
every
district
because
we
already
have,
I
think,
all
of
our
districts
have
this
problem.
B
I
I
don't
speak
for
all
the
districts,
but
I
know
district
4.
We
have
locations
with
large
numbers
of
people
where
we
can
find
places
to
put
sanctioned
camps,
and
I
think
we're
going
to
have
to
do
that.
So
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
find
these
locations
for
us
to.
B
You
know,
work
on
managing
locations
that
are
going
that
are
less
safe
and
where
we're
gonna
have
to
do
some
abatements,
and
I
think
it
makes
sense
for
us
to
find
ways
to
to
vaccinate
those
communities
make
sure
people
are
safe.
B
You
know
we
have
to
if
there's
a
large
management
issue,
as
has
been
brought
up
with
the
dual
vaccine
and
how
we
make
sure
we,
when
we
provide
the
first
first
dose,
that
we
can
continue
to
attract
people
to
find
the
second
dose,
so
that
comment
about
waiting
for
single
dose
vaccine
is
important.
I
think
to
make
sure
that
we
can
do
this
in
a
way.
That's
going
to
be,
you
know
effective,
but
you
know
I
think
this
is.
This
is
an
important
conversation
to
have
sooner
rather
than
later.
B
I
think
on
all
three
of
these
items
it's
important
to
have
sooner
rather
than
later,
because
as
we're
hearing,
there
is
a
a
loss
of
patience
in
some
sense
in
our
community
about
about
all
these
problems,
and
so
I
don't
know
that
we
want
to
delay
too
long
on
trying
to
find
some
of
these
solutions.
I
think
we've
been
talking
about
this
for
a
long
time,
and
all
these
things
require
some
some
action,
but
thank
you
for
for
bringing
this
conversation
forward,
so
we
can
talk
about
it.
C
All
right,
thank
you,
councilmember
cohen,
don't
see
any
other
hands
raised.
So
we
have
a
motion
in
a
second
tony
mourinhos.
I
D
Paul
hi
paul
soto.
I
wanted
to
thank
you
first
of
all,
councilman
peralta
for
your
attendance
at
that
meeting.
I
I
saw
you
there
and
I
was
checking.
I
was
looking
at
the
hands.
I
didn't
see
your
hand
raised,
and
then
I
saw
your
hand
raised
and
saw
you
weigh
in
on
it
and-
and
I
needed
to
hear
not
only
what
you
said
but
how
you
said
it,
because
it
it
speaks
to
your
understanding
of
the
issue.
It's
not
about
thomas
fallon,
it's
not
about
the
statue,
his
minor
role.
D
I
read
le
cardo's
memo,
which
is
why
it
compelled
the
question
yesterday
that
I
couldn't
believe
that
he
wrote
it
a
10th
grade.
History
teacher
would
have
not
let
him
get
away
with
that
paper.
I
mean
it
was
that
poorly
written,
because
there's
three
elements
to
the
truth:
there's
the
truth,
the
whole
truth
and
nothing
but
the
truth,
and
somebody
thinks
because
they
tell
the
truth.
D
They've
told
the
whole
truth
and
nothing
but
the
truth,
because
they
told
a
truth
and-
and
so
so
you
know,
this
is
why
it
needs
to
be
removed
and,
like
I
said,
I'd
really
like
to
work
with
the
office.
I'm
already
going
to
be
at
every
single
arts
commission
meeting
throughout
this
entire
process.
You
know
to
to
number
one
mitigate
the
cost
of
its
removal.
D
That's
number
one
to
advocate
for
its
placement
at
the
at
the
history
museum,
so
that
the
statute
could
be
properly
contextualized
and
thirdly,
to
give
the
people
the
citizen
here
in
our
city,
something
to
rally
around.
You
know
I'm
already
in
contact
with
a
lot
of
the
elders
that
tried
to
have
the
statute
removed
in
times
past.
D
C
C
K
All
right,
thank
you,
so
just
rhonda
had
not
on
behalf
of
mayor
licardo's,.
A
Office
just
wanted
to
briefly
share
that
the
mayor
is
just
looking
for
this
item
to
go
directly
to
the
arts,
commission,
and
so
so
that's
it.
G
F
Thank
you,
and
you
know,
I
think
we
helped
the
mayor
free
up
a
lot
of
his
time
that
he
didn't
have
before
on
wednesdays,
and
it's
proven
by
rhonda
being
here
right
now
and
not
the
mayor.
But
thank
you
rhonda
for
for
for
being
here
and-
and
I
see
I
knew
the
mayor
should
have
just
appointed
me-
the
rules
sooner,
you
can
go
out
and
get
some
other
things
done
and
look.
F
I'm
gonna
be
supporting
this
and
moving
this
forward
and
as
paul
points
out,
I
was
at
the
the
public
hearing
and
and
able
to
hear
overwhelmingly
right
the
the
response
from
our
community.
F
I
happen
to
have
looked
into
this
issue
myself
pretty
extensively
as
it's
risen
to
a
high
concern,
understood
what
happened
when
it
was
first,
you
know
commissioned
to
when
it
was
put
in
storage
to
the
the
challenge
actually
and
when
it
when
it
was
ultimately
erected
again
in
the
current
location
as
it
is
today,
media
documentation
on
it
and
and
different
organizations
that
that
chimed
in
and
community
members
and
and
now
a
rehashing
sort
of
of
of
that-
and
I
think
overwhelmingly,
the
the
response-
has
sort
of
remained
consistent
from
what
I've
seen
over
the
years
and-
and
I
think
you
know
the
mayor
words
it
in
his
memo
at
the
conclusion
of
the
public
process,
barring
some
startling,
dramatic
change
in
the
facts,
he'll
support
the
removal
of
the
statue.
F
He
says
it's
time
to
move
on,
although
I
I
agree
with
that,
I
think
it's
more
than
just
sort
of
it's
time
to
move
on
and
I
think
paul
made
some
you
know
alluded
to
some
of
that
in
regards
to
really
a
discussion
should
be
had
around.
What
is
it
that
we
honor
and
recognize
at
the
level
of
a
statue
or
a
monument
right,
a
mural
in
our
city
right
and
how
does
something
get
to
that
level?
F
What
is
it
that
that
you
know
sort
of
we're
telling
with
a
statement
like
that?
It's
one
thing
for
things
to
be
in
the
history,
books,
right
or
and
I've.
Actually,
I've
read
a
couple
of
the
books,
former
mchenry
and
in
the
journal
that
he
found
on
on
tom
fallon,
and
you
know
so
it's
one
thing
to
to
sort
of
have
the
history.
That's
there,
but
another
thing
to
then
honor
and
recognize
parts
of
our
history
with
something
as
significant
as
a
statue
or
a
monument
and
a
mural.
F
F
You
know:
we've
had
enough
it's
time
to
move
on
with
the
tom
thomas
fallon
statue:
let's
go
through
the
process,
let's
you
know,
commence
the
process
of
removing
it
and
and
then
move
on
and
say
hey.
That's
it
it's
time
to
move
on,
because
I
don't
think
so
at
all.
I
think.
F
Actually
it's
it's
time
to
to
have
a
much
deeper
conversation
is,
is
what
I
will
say,
and
so
I
do
support
the
mayor's
direction
and
and
that
memo,
but
I
think
I
just
I
would
I
would
have
maybe
come
at
it
just
a
little
differently,
but
I
know
he
put
a
lot
of
work
into
it
in
regards
to
coming
that
decision.
No,
it
wasn't
easy,
and
so
I
will
move
the
mayor's
memorandum
that
we
commence
the
city
process
to
remove
the
tom
fallon
statue.
H
F
Yes,
I
believe,
actually
it's
quite
a
lengthy
process
that
staff
laid
out-
I
believe,
carrie
adams
happens
here
and
she
laid
out
in
in
the
early
consideration
form.
I
won't
list
it
off
unless
somebody
wants
me
to
but
or
maybe
carrie
can
talk
about
it.
But
yes,.
C
F
C
Carrie,
I
see
you
have
your
hand
raised.
Would
you
like
to
chime
in.
I
Yeah,
just
briefly,
I
just
want
to
say
the
staff
has
done
the
analysis
and
we
agree
that
we
can
greenlight
this
right
now.
There
is
a
council
approved
the
accession
policy
on
relocating
or
removing
works
of
public
art,
which
we've
outlined
in
this
prioritization
form.
So
in
accordance
with
our
council
policy,
what
we
will
do
is
we
can
add
this
item
to
the
arts
commission
work
plan
and
then
we
can
bring
it
to
the
cedc,
the
community
economic
development
committee
for
its
approval.
I
So
that
would
be
our
process
and
then
we
can
go
straight
into
the
accession
policy
and
that
body
of
work
with
the
arts,
commission.
C
Great,
thank
you.
Carrie
councilmember
arenas.
H
So
sorry
about
that,
I
want
to
thank
the
callers
for,
and
specifically
paul
soto,
who,
I
know
is,
is
leading
his
efforts
within
his
community
to
bring
together
elders
who
have
you
know
as
we
go
back
in
time.
Those
folks
are
connected
a
lot
closer
to
some
of
the
grievances
and
unjustices
that
happen
in
the
past
that
allow
us
to
learn
from
experiences,
and
I'm
glad
that
that
he's
doing
that.
H
I
look
forward
to
to
seeing
what
those
elders
come
up
with
and
and
an
opportunity
to
express
what
that
statue
represents
for
them.
As
we
know,
and
and
is
reflected
in
in
the
in
the
memo
that
you
know,
history
is
told
by
those
who
are
in
in
a
position
of
privilege
or
who
have
the
appearance
of
white
privilege,
and
I
think
it's
it's
about
time,
that
san
jose
has
this
conversation
and
that
we
include
all
of
our
community
in
it.
H
I
look
forward
to
what
the
art
commission
is
going
to
decide
on
this,
but
I
don't
I
and-
and
I
and
I
trust
carrie,
that
you
will
have
a
very
inclusive
process
that
you'll
make
sure
that
our
community
knows
about
this,
that
it
provides
them
an
opportunity
to
really
one
express
their
position
into
to
shape
some
of
what
is
going
to
happen.
I
know
that
you
outlined.
H
I
don't
know
how
to
say
that
the
ex
accession,
the
accession-
yes,
the
accession,
that's
the
first
time
I
have
seen
that
one
and
but
I
I
think
I
understand
what
it
means
and
I
look
forward
to
that
process
of
the
accession
and
and
and
one
of
the
things
that
caught
my
ear
was
paul
soto,
saying
that
we
needed
to
make
sure
that
one,
the
property
is
properly
contextualized
in
our
history
of
san
jose
and
second,
I
believe
he
wants
to
be
very
sensitive
to
the
costs
that
involve
this.
H
H
I
I
You
know
making
sure
that
there's
a
very
transparent
process
by
which
people
are
informed
and
that
all
perspectives
are
honored
and
respected,
and
we
will
include
any
of
the
feedback
from
the
form
for
the
public
art
committee
and
the
commission
to
consider,
and
then
ultimately,
this
will
come
to
the
full
council
for
its
final
approval
and
decision.
H
I
I
appreciate
that
I'm
sure
that
you
will
have
a
group
of
volunteers
who
would
be
willing
to
remove
that
statue
on
their
own
if
you
looked
for
them,
but
I
will
trust
in
the
process
and
look
forward
to
hearing
and
seeing
this
come
back
to
us.
I
Yeah-
and
I
just
want
to
say
you
know
this-
this
statue
is
very
well
built.
It
has
a
very
deep
foundation,
and
so
it's
not
something
that
can
be
moved
with
a
truck.
I
So
this
is
something
that's
going
to
involve
a
public
works
project.
It
is
going
to
require.
Should
that
be
the
outcome,
you
know
it's
going
to
require
a
body
of
work
that
we're
going
to
have
to
do
it
correctly,
just
to
ensure
that
we
are
treating
the
public
realm
and
this
this
traffic
median
and
the
way
that
it
needs
to.
For
you
know,
public
safety
purposes.
H
Thank
you,
and
and
just
as
a
side
note,
I'm
happy
to
see
you
here:
councilmember
perales,
raul
at
rules,
I'm
going
to
start
a
hashtag.
C
There
you
go,
and
we
also
got
a
new
word
for
words
with
friends,
so
you
learned
a
new
word
today.
Okay,
so
we
have
a
motion
in
a
second
to
sub
tony.
D
N
N
They
used.
They
used
to
meet
my
mother
in
elementary
school
for
speaking
spanish
and
they
taught
my
mother
to
philashin.
I
don't
speak
spanish
today
because
she
she
believed
if
she
taught
us
to
speak
spanish,
we
would
be
treated
the
way
that
she
was
in
school
and
that's
what
disconnected
me
from
my
language
from
spanish.
N
That's
why
I
don't
speak
it,
and-
and
so
this
is.
This
is
just
critically
important
to
me
and
that's
why
I
wanted
to
involve
the
the
the
elders
and
to
give
them
their
respect
and
to
give
our
community
our
community
some
semblance
of
power,
some
semblance
of
cathartic
way
of
saying
that
by
civic
participation
that
we
together
can
do
what
one
person.
D
C
You
paul
blair.
E
Thanks
for
the
words
of
paul
soto,
it's
it's
can
be
lonely
work
and
it
can
be
satisfying
work.
So
thank
you
for
your
efforts
to
address
the
statue
issue,
among
other
things,
to
talk
about
a
few
items
from
last
night
again
to
try
to
offer
my
own
lonely
work
to
try
to
state
a
little
more
clearly
that
you
know
it's
my
hope
out
of
any
out
of
anything
from
last
from
from
the
impeachment
process
that's
going
on.
Is
that
we're
we're
we're
all
understanding
there?
E
E
I
also
mentioned
last
night
the
ideas
of
a
green
sustainability
and
equity
and
and
reimagine,
and
really
good
stuff.
I
I
forgot
to
include
the
ideas
of
open
public
policy
and
and
renewable
energy,
and
those
are
really
good
ideals
that
I
just
really
hope
we
can
continue.
It
may
be
a
difficult
next
five
to
ten
years
in
the
bay
area.
E
I
I
just
hope
we
don't
give
up
on
those
ideals
and
we
we
find
ways
to
really
want
to
practice
them,
and
I
guess
with
10
seconds
thanks
for
this
meeting
today,
it
was
difficult
in
some
places.
Yeah
thanks
for
yeah,
I
have
more
to
say
I
guess
tomorrow
at
nsc.
Thank
you.