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City of San José, California
Joint meeting of Rules and Open Government / Committee of the Whole of June 23, 2021
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B
C
A
B
B
B
And
we
are
going
to
start
out
on
page
four
and
five
and
tony
told
that
the
desire
is
to
start
closed
session
at
nine
o'clock.
Okay,
so
will
the
maker
of
the
motion
include
that?
C
B
B
B
Okay,
4.1
we're
probably
going
to
want
a
not
be
or
not
before,.
B
I
was
thinking
you
know,
probably
not
before
1
30.,
the
maker
of
the
motion.
Please
note
that
as
well.
B
Okay,
well,
thanks
for
being
you're
still
responsive,
let's
get
let's
get
through
the
the
agenda
first,
because
there
might
be
some
other
items
that
we
might
want
to
have
time.
Sir,.
C
Okay,
so
since
4.1
was
such
a
long
title,
we're
not
on
this,
is
I'm
announcing
this
for
the
public,
we're
now
on
8.1.
A
A
B
And
then
there's
an
ad
sheet
as
well
so
councilmember
morenis,
says
you're
making
the
motions
to.
B
Would
you
also
want
some
type
of
time
certain
or
not
before
for
the
berryessa
item
as
well.
A
E
I
was
going
to
suggest
a
time
certain
for
that
one.
I
don't
know,
since
we
have
to
the
other
item
on
guns,
we
probably
want
them
spread
out
a
little
bit,
but
I
think
we
have
the
opportunity
with
a
morning
with
an
afternoon
and
an
evening
to
have
two
times
certain
items
on
the
agenda,
and
you
know
the
10.4
10.5
won't
have
public
comment,
but
we'll
have
continued
council
discussion.
E
My
thought
was
to
put
that
at
a
time
certain
early
in
the
meeting
to
get
that
sensitive
continuation
last
week
to
finish
that
before
moving
on
to
other
things,
but
I
don't
know
what
the
exact
right
time
is
meeting
starts
at
11,
but
given
some
of
the
items
of
the
ceremonial
and
consent,
maybe
we
want
to
go
at
12,
30,
1
o'clock
time
certain
for
that
item
for
10.4
and
five
and
then
we
could
put
the
the
other
item.
Four
point:
every
number
was,
I
don't
know:
6
30.
B
Okay
is
that
it
councilman
cohen,
yeah,
okay,
councilmember
perales.
F
Yeah,
I
think
we're
we're
not
gonna,
have
any
more
public
comment
on
that
item,
so
I
think
that
that
one,
you
know,
I
think,
there's
some
some
wiggle
room
there.
I
was
curious
about
8.5.
F
A
Bring
that
forward
at
the
the
next
rules
committee
meeting,
which
is
at
the
end
of
july,
with
a
target
date
for
that.
A
Those
are
those
happen
relatively
quickly.
We
need
to
advertise
the
time
on
the
agenda
for
any
appeals
from
participants
as
part
of
that.
So
that's
a
legal
action,
but
we
at
least
in
the
16
years
I've
been
here.
We
don't
usually
have
a
lot
of
public
comment
on
those,
but
those
are
time
certain
for
for
procedural
issues.
B
So
why
don't
we
follow
your
suggestion,
councilman
coleman
and
just
spread
them
out.
We
can
make
one
the
barius
item
not
before
130
and
the
the
gun
harm
reduction
item
not
before
6
30.
E
B
E
On
each
of
them,
but
that's
and
I
think
it's
possible,
given
that
we
can
spread
the
other
items
sprinkle
them
throughout,
and
you
know
obviously
time
certain
can
drift
a
little
bit,
but
I
feel
like
it's
better
to
just
schedule
them
for
a
time.
E
B
So
we
so
you're
saying
the
time
certainly
say:
1
30
for
berryessa
and
6
30
for
gun
harm
reduction.
I
Hi,
where
beekman
here
just
to
community
planning
for
the
future
of
the
alamoc
area,
to
sacred
heart,
help
for
rent
forgiveness
ideas
and
to
digital
inclusion
for
local
high
schools
on
the
east
side,
good
luck
with
the
community
development
for
the
alamoc
area.
I
think
there's
some
interesting
ideas
that
I'm
really
hopeful
about,
and
you
know
with
the
issues
of
the
flea
market.
I
It
reminded
me
what
an
important
resource
and
purpose
you
know:
alum
rock
has
and
the
same
with
the
flea
market
and
it's
learning
to
continue
to
respect
those
good
practices
of
what
it
has
been
in
previous
generations.
I
hope
we
can
do
that
for
the
flea
market
and
we're
really
trying
to
do
that
for
the
alum
rock
area.
I
It
can
be
some
good
examples
for
the
future
of
the
flea
market.
Thank
you
with
106
remaining,
thank
you
to
the
work
of
sacred
heart
and
the
work
on
rent
forgiveness,
ideas,
and
thank
you
to
everybody.
I
think
we're
really
starting
to
move
forward
with
rent
forgiveness
ideas.
How
to
talk
about
it
better.
I
think
we're
just
more
logical
and
better
reasoned.
How
we're
talking
about
it.
Thank
you
to
all
sides
and
good
luck.
I
How
we
can
continue
this
work
and
to
consider
the
overall
future
of
subsidy
programs
in
san
jose.
We
have
to
be
open
to
what
they
really
can
work
towards
and
accomplish,
and
not
be
afraid
of
that,
as
we
are
with
the
rent,
ordinance
idea
or
unforgiveness
ideas.
Good
luck
in
those
efforts,
and,
finally,
digital
inclusion,
stuff,
as
as
good
as
digital
conclusion
can
be
for
the
east
side,
and
issues
of
you
know
helping
our
digital
future
open
public
policies
to
to
help
with
that
process.
A
Thank
you
vice
mayor,
it's
a
quick
ask.
I
looked
earlier
for
the
agenda
and
it
it
wasn't
posted,
and
I
think
I
looked
at
noon
and
it
wasn't
posted
either
and
respectfully.
A
I'm
wondering
if
would
be
possible
for
the
agenda
to
be
posted
at
the
same
time
as
as
you
are
being
notified,
even
if
it's
in
dry
form
or
at
least
provide
some
kind
of
notification.
People
subscribe
and
then
obviously,
if
as
obviously
happened
today
because
of
this
morning's
meeting,
you
have
to
revise
it.
You
just
basically
post
a
revised
agenda,
but
the
point
I'm
getting
at
you've
clearly
seen
this
before
the
first
time
I
saw
this
is
when
it
flashed
on
the
screen
and
if
that
could
be
addressed,
that'd
be
much
appreciated.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you
for
that
input.
Roland
person
whose
number
ends
in
4963.
J
J
So
we
need
to
see
those
documents
tony
sooner
rather
than
later,
and
not
have
something
sprung
on
us
five
minutes
before
the
council
to
accept
the
issue
of
hybrid
meetings.
Thank
you.
B
A
Hi,
I
was
just
wondering
like
if
there
could
be
changes
made
to
public
comments
like
make
them
longer,
so
people
have
more
time
to
speak
because
one
minute
seems
kind
of
short
as
well
as
like,
have
it
more
like
available
like,
instead
of
only
having
it
at
the
beginning
of
each
item
like
have
it
like
include
it
into
the
round
robin
so
that
people
have
more
time
to
speak.
B
As
far
as
the
time
limit
for
public
comments,
we
typically
shorten
the
time
to
one
minute
when
we
know
we
have
a
lot
of
public
speakers,
because
we
want
everybody
to
have
an
opportunity
to
speak
and
have
their
voices
heard
and
with
the
longer
time
limit,
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
accommodate
everybody
who
wants
to
speak
on
an
item
of
interest
as
far
as
posting
of
the
agendas
and
attachments
tony,
can
you
just
walk
everyone
through
that
process
again,
just
so
that
we
all
have
understanding
how
it
works.
C
They're,
usually
the
items
are
usually
posted
10
days
in
advance.
The
hybrid
meeting
memo
is
not
done,
so
it
is
not
posted,
but
we
are
definitely
coming
back
with
hybrid
meetings
for
the
members
of
the
public
to
be
able
to
participate
via
zoom.
So
martha
doesn't
need
to
worry
about
that.
I'm
not
I'm
not
springing.
Anything
at
the
last
minute
says
no
we're
not
going
hybrid
when
it
comes
to
members
of
the
public
participating,
but
typically
they
do
post
10
days
in
advance,
but
that
memo
is
not
out.
B
B
No
worries
all
right
so
tony,
let's
vote.
A
F
I
Hi
blair
beekman
here
I
wrote
a
letter
in
public
record
this
week.
I
didn't
quite
mean
it
for
public
record,
but
it
was
placed
in
it
so
I'll
report
on
it.
The
measure
key
meeting
on
june
10th.
It
was
inaccessible
to
myself,
and
it
was
hurtful
that
that
happened.
So
I
wrote
a
letter
about
it,
but
I
had
a
really
nice
conversation
afterwards.
It's
now
on
youtube,
you
can
look
it
up,
and
so
thanks
for
that,
they
talked
about
really
important
issues
about
that.
I
You
know
they're
really
looking
for
public
outreach
at
this
time
for
their
for
the
future
of
measure,
t
public
meetings-
I
talked
I've
talked
before
here
about
the
importance
of
open
public
policies
with
technology
and
the
overall.
You
know
public
oversight
for
the
future
of
technology.
We're
trying
to
work
towards
that
could
be
an
important
component
in
the
future
of
measure.
I
T
that
I
hope
this
can
be
a
time
to
begin
to
really
work
on
that
issue,
and
it
could
be
really
interesting
and,
in
the
very
least,
they'll
learn
really
important
lessons
about
civics
and
good
democratic
practices
for
a
community.
So
good
luck
in
these
efforts
to
with
this
issue
and
how
it
can
be
a
good
process
for
all
of
us.
I
wanted
to
speak.
I
guess
at
this
time
also
just
to
the
overall
ideas
of
open
public
practices
and
that
after
the
shooting,
you
know
we
were
afraid
we
were
in
grieving.
I
A
A
B
Thank
you
all
right,
bringing
it
back
to
the
committee
and
can
I
get
a
motion
please.
D
H
I
Hi
blair
here
the
there
are
some
dumpster
day
items
on
consent
calendar.
I
just
wanted
to
thank
yourselves
as
a
city
government.
What
dumpster
day
can
really
work
towards
and
accomplish.
It
can
be
a
saturday
morning
where
people
with
homes
and
without
homes
can
gather
in
a
neighborhood
to
throw
away
their
garbage
and
just
get
to
know
each
other
and
talk
and
familiarize
themselves
with
each
other.
I
think
that's
an
incredibly
good
idea
and
works
towards
peace.
Basically,
it
asks
for
dialogue
and
understanding
and
between
people,
which
is
about
all.
I
We
really
need
in
this
world
to
understand
the
other
person's
point
of
view
and
what
they're
going
through,
and
it
takes
away
a
lot
of
hostility
and
so
good
luck
in
these
efforts
and
boy.
You
know
I
wanted
to
quickly
comment
that
I
I
was
a
little
worried
about
the
gun
issue
and
how
it
was
able
to
slip
by
some
brown
act
ideas.
I
I
hope
that
doesn't
become
a
precedent,
but
at
the
same
time
you
very
nicely.
I
It
is
two
weeks
ago
that
you
or
a
week
ago
that
you
brought
it
up
and
it
will
be
on
the
agenda
in
two
weeks
from
from
that
week,
so
we've
had
time
to
consider
it.
So
at
least
that's
a
plus
thanks.
B
Thank
you
tony.
A
B
Okay
on
to
meeting
schedules,
rules
and
open
government
committee
work
plan,
I
have
a
public
speaker
go
ahead.
Blair.
I
Hi
blair
here,
I
guess
my
final
comment.
My
previous
on
the
previous
item,
would
be
more
apropos
for
this
item,
but
just
to
simply
offer
for
this
item.
Thank
you
for
it.
It's
part
of
our
regular
procedures
of
rules
in
open
government,
and
I
noticed
on
the
work
plan.
You
have
the
same
meeting
schedule
that
you've
always
had,
and
I
know
it's
being
talked
about.
I
You
want
to
possibly
change
it
around
a
bit
and
is
it
possible
to
bring
that
to
the
public
meeting
process
and
to
give
the
public
some
examples
of
what
how
you
can
change
the
agenda
around.
So
it's
a
bit
more
clear
to
people
and
I'll.
I
guess
we're
all
waiting
for
when
you
can
do
that.
I
know
it's
been
a
process
for
a
long
time.
Considering
good
luck
when
you
can
and
thanks
a
lot.
B
Okay,
thank
you
bringing
it
back
to
the
committee.
E
To
clarify
that
was
perales,
but
that's
fine.
I.
A
C
A
B
And
councilmember
cole
anytime,
you
can
get
a
thank
you
just
take
it.
B
K
Okay,
the
way
it's
set
up
is
that
the
appellant
has
the
opportunity
to
present
for
five
minutes
on
the
appeal,
and
actually
I
should
ask
you,
sarah,
because
I'm
trying
to
find
my
emails
right
now-
yeah.
Yes,
I'm
sorry,
the
appellant
can
outline
her
appeal
and
then
sarah
you'll
be
responding
to
the
appeal
and
explaining.
K
B
L
I
am
hi
there,
it's
actually
going
to
be
myself
and
josh
bruce
my
co-founder
and
co-partner
hi,
so
good
up
good
afternoon
vice
mayor
jones
and
members
of
the
rules
committee.
Thank
you
for
taking
the
time
to
hear
from
us
today.
My
name
is
ramona
guardias
and
I
am
the
co-founder
of
san
jose
spotlight
the
city's
non-profit
news
organization.
As
I
mentioned,
I
am
joined
by
my
co-founder
and
partner
josh
bruce.
L
We
believe
these
records
deal
directly
with
the
public's
business
and
they
are
being
improperly
withheld
san
jose,
spotlight
on
may
9th
requested
emails
texts
and
other
communications
from
mayor
sam
licardo
and
his
staff
related
to
his
advocacy
organization
solutions.
San
jose
nine
days
later,
city
staff
issued
a
blanket
denial
by
saying
all
the
communications
were
subject
to
attorney-client
privilege,
after
consulting
with
multiple
attorneys
and
open
government
experts.
We
believe
this
is
not
possible.
L
L
That
quote,
we
have
not
provided
legal
advice
about
solution,
san
jose
to
the
mayor
or
members
of
his
office.
She
went
on
to
say
that
her
office
has
provided
general
guidance
about
using
public
resources
such
as
staff
or
city
property
for
private
purposes,
but
city
attorney,
nora
freeman,
clearly
stated
we
have
not
provided
legal
advice,
so
why
is
the
city
attorney
client
privilege
being
asserted
as
a
basis
to
withhold?
L
L
L
Third,
if
the
mayor
or
his
team,
communicated
with
any
outside
entities
or
officials
regarding
solution,
san
jose,
the
attorney-client's
privilege,
is
destroyed,
we
know
solution.
San
jose
is
working
with
outside
groups
such
as
destination
home
and
the
silicon
valley,
leadership
group
on
public
forums
and
policy
discussions.
H
Thank
you
for
the
record
good
to
be
back
now,
even
if
mayor
carter
uses
personal
gmail
account
or
private
devices
to
use
advocacy
work
with
solution
count
of
8,
those
communications
must
be
disclosed
under
the
law.
The
public
records
act
does
not
care
which
email
account
or
device
is
used.
It
only
cares
about
whether
communication
relates
to
public
business
solution.
San
jose
has
advocated
for
reopening
schools
opposing
water
rate
heights
and
shaping
housing
policies.
These
are
all
matters
that
pertain
to
the
public's
business.
H
Lastly,
it
sounds.
It
prides
itself
on
some
time
laws
and
transparency,
but
this
process
has
been
riddled
with
confusion
and
contradictions.
The
city
memo
recommended
you
deny
a
request,
says
the
city
quote
located
documents
and
determined
that
the
located
documents
needed
to
be
withheld
pursuant
to
the
eternity
client
privilege.
It
said
the
documents
are
vote,
confidential
correspondence
between
the
mayor's
office
staff
and
the
city
attorney's
office,
and
there
are
therefore
exempt
from
production.
H
The
only
way
to
resolve
this
dispute
and
what
we're
asking
from
you
today
is
to
one
direct
staff
to
do
a
more
careful
and
thorough
search
of
the
records
you
are
requesting
and
immediately
release
records
that
were
previously
withheld
and
two
if
staff
determines
during
during
the
subsequent
review
that
the
privilege
still
applies
and
provide
us
with
the
privilege
log.
H
A
privileged
log
is
a
spreadsheet
that
tells
us
what
the
document
is
the
date
it
was
sent
the
sender,
receiver
and
those
copied
and
an
explanation
of
why
this
particular
document
is
subject
to
the
privilege.
Please
do
the
right
thing
and
stop
the
storm
quality
of
public
records
at
city
hall.
The
public
deserves
it
better.
Thank
you
all
for
your
time,
liberation
this
afternoon.
B
Thank
you
so
now
we
have
staff's
response.
K
D
Good
afternoon
rules
committee
members,
I'm
jessica
lowry,
the
open
government
manager
on
may
9th,
mr
argus
c
appellant
made
a
public
records
act,
request
requesting
copies
of
all
emails
texts,
communications
between
mayor
sam
licardo,
chief
of
staff,
jim
reed,
and
any
and
all
other
mayors,
staff,
consultants,
lobbyists
or
associates
related
to
solution
san
jose.
Over
the
past
six
months,
staff
conducted
a
diligent
search
of
all
personal
and
city
devices
and
found
no
responsive
records.
D
D
These
emails
were
not
responsive
to
the
specific
public
records
act
request
because
they
were
not
between
or
among
mayor's
office
staff
and
consultants,
lobbyists
or
associates
related
to
solution
san
jose,
but
we
interpreted
the
request
broadly
responsive
or
not.
These
emails
are
still
protected
by
the
attorney-client
privilege.
B
Thank
you.
Any
other
members
of
the
staff
have
any
input
on
this
this
matter.
B
If
not,
I'm
gonna
go
to
the
committee
and
see
if
we
have
any
questions.
B
I
was
gonna,
take
it
before
we
voted,
but
I
can
go
ahead
and
take
it
now.
B
M
M
That's
going
to
be
a
it's
going
to
be
your
waterloo
city,
council
and,
if
it
may
or
sam,
if
you're
listening,
but
I
just
want
to
tell
the
city,
council
and
sam
licardo
that
the
1930s
german
government
called
and
they
want
their
gun
control
measures
back
and
yeah
I
mean
what
you
guys
are
doing
is
is:
is
a
carbon
copy?
What
adolf
hitler
did
back
in
the
1930s
for
gun
control.
B
Excuse
me
caller
five,
one
four
zero,
but.
B
All
right
anyway,
it's
not
you're,
not
speaking
to
the
topic
at
hand,
so
we're
gonna
go
to
the
next
speaker,
which
is
blair,
go
ahead.
I
Hi,
thank
you.
I
guess
a
first
a
thank
you
to
the
work
of
what
the
sj
spotlight
is
trying
to
work
towards,
and
efforts.
As
a
community
newspaper,
I
think
they've
been
doing
some
amazing
work
and
they're,
making
a
request
at
this
time
that
I
I
guess
I'm
to
under
try
to
understand
it's
a
bit
upsetting.
I
You
know,
because
people
city
government
feels
it's
their
own
personal
space
and
but
you
know,
there's
a
relationship
that
we
have
between
our
newspapers
and
our
government
that
and
the
fact
that
our
government
is
is
of
the
public
that
this
issue
is
starting
to
be
asked
for
public
input
and
and
scrutiny.
I
I
think
the
state
of
the
spotlight
has
made
a
very
interesting
request
to
ask
simply
for
the
email
headlines,
subject,
heading
and
and
the
email
addresses
at
this
time.
It
sounds
something
like
that
and
then
possibly
to
this
issue
can
then
be
an
evolving
issue,
but
I
think
it's
a
very
good
form
of
compromise
to
offer
what
what
the
sga
spotlight
is.
That
can
ask
for
at
this
time-
and
I
think
it's
a
very
perfect
legal
right
and
has
been
done
before
in
san
jose.
I
So
good
luck,
I
can't
it
was
with
the
police.
There
was
an
issue
with
the
police
recently,
maybe
in
the
past
few
years,
good
luck
on
how
to
work
on
this
issue.
It
can
slowly
progress
something
and
it
seems
like
it
is
made
worth
questioning
its
purpose
and
to
become
a
public
matter,
good
luck
and
how
we
all
can
work
on
this
issue
as
a
community.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you,
tessa.
N
N
So
please
work
on
that
that
you
post
the
item,
that's
being
addressed
as
much
as
you
can
to
put
that
on
the
the
display
as
many
times
as
we
can
to
say
what
item
we're
working
on
to
emulate,
it
would
be
in
person,
so
that's
important
to
mark
democratic
improvement,
but
anyway,
getting
back
to
this
issue,
which
is
another
democratic
improvement
of
the
issue
of
the
the
media,
is
the
fourth
arm
of
government.
It's
the
fourth
arm
of
government.
N
It's
overseeing
our
government
is
very
critical
that
we
that
there
is
no.
What
is
it
client?
You
know
what
is
it
lawyer,
client
issues
here?
This
is
the
public
monies,
the
public
resources.
He
is
a
public
person.
I
mean
I'm
getting
emails
from
sam
ricardo
about
the
solution,
san
jose.
You
know
because
he
has
my
email
as
a
citizen,
and
these
are
you
know,
issues
about
what
he's
doing
with
our
emails,
and
this
has
come
up
even
with
sergio
jimenez
that
I'd
get
emails
about
his
business.
N
You
know
his
real
estate
business,
that's
wrong
too,
but
this
is
critical
because
he's
got
you
know,
he's
dealing
with
city,
business
and
the
city.
Business
of
you
know
solutions
san
jose
when
he's
working
with
silicon
valley
leadership.
You
know
leaderless
group
as
we
call
it.
You
know,
because
it's
it's
corporations-
and
you
know
we
can't
be.
You
know,
trusting
that
it's
really
doing
the
work
of
the
city
to
protect
us
from
harm.
It
might
be
doing
work
with
corporations
and
an
emphasis
on
that,
and
we
can't
be.
B
Thank
you,
tessa
tran.
O
Hello
good
morning,
vice
mayor
jones
and
members
of
the
rules
committee,
my
name
is
tron
win,
I'm
a
reporter
with
san
jose
spotlight.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
for
for
hearing
our
organizations
appeal
today.
O
O
We
believe
these
communications
have
significant
public
interest,
especially
when
considering
how
the
mayor
has
used
his
name
and
title
to
promote
solutions.
San
jose
the
organization
also
have
access
to
city
officials
and
has
hosted
several
panels,
one
of
which
featured
the
city's
housing
director
as
a
speaker
and
the
city
is
telling
us
that
all
of
this
communication
related
to
this
nonprofit
is
attorney
client
privilege.
O
Neither
the
mayor's
office
nor
the
city
attorney
was
willing
to
provide
us
an
explanation
of
how
they
conducted
the
search
in
response
to
our
record
request
and
how
many
pages
of
responsive
records
there
are.
This
raised
questions
for
us
and
after
consulting
with
several
open
government
groups
and
attorneys,
we
have
reasons
to
believe
that
the
search
was
neither
thorough
nor
proper,
more
information.
O
Explanation
only
came
out
after
we
filed
this
appeal
and
even
if
all
the
responsive
records
to
this
request
are
between
the
mayor
and
the
city
attorney,
which
we
are
not
convinced
of
yet
we
still
believe
that
the
public
should
be
able
to
see
them
because
they
are
pertaining
to
the
potential
conflict
of
interest
and
how
the
mayor
is
navigating
the
line
of
lobbying
for
different
city-related
issues
to
the
public
agency
that
he
is
the
mayor
of
again.
I
urge
the
committee
to
direct
staff
to
release
this
record.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
B
Thank
you,
ann.
A
B
Thank
you
bringing
it
back
to
the
committee
council
member
perales.
Go
ahead.
F
Yeah
thanks
vice
mayor
and
appreciate
the
the
conversation
here.
The
appeal-
that's
that's
got
us
here.
I
think
you
know
without
a
doubt,
obviously,
that
the
mayor
has
an
advocacy
group
that
he
is
using
to
you
know
to
politic
and
potentially
even
campaign.
That's
certain,
but
I
I
you
know,
I
don't
know
the
relevancy
of
some
of
these
public
record
acts,
requests
and
and
how
that
crosses
over.
F
I'm
surprised
to
hear
that
there
was
a
participation
from
our
housing
director
on
one
of
the
panels
or
events
or
whatever
they
might
have
been.
I
wasn't
aware
of
that,
and
I
don't
know
if
that's
true,
but
one
of
the
public
commenters
just
mentioned
that,
and
I
would
imagine
this
is
a
bit
of
a
gray
area.
F
We
all
you
know
can
be
in
office
while
we're
campaigning-
and
we
know,
there's
a
lot
of
rules
around
that.
But
I
am
kind
of
curious
how
you
know
political
and
public
advocacy
organizations
like
this
that
are
sort
of
outside
of
our
offices,
but
yet
run
by
us
and
then
have
some
crossover,
I'm
curious
how
that
you
know
how
that
works
with
rules
and
regulations.
F
I
I
I
am
not
aware
of
you
know
other
efforts
like
this
from
other
elected
officials
locally,
and
this
is
the
first
time
I
and
I
knew
the
rules,
but
this
is
the
first
time
that
I've
heard
one
of
these
appeals
and
I
will
say,
we're
at
a
bit
of
a
disadvantage,
because
you
know
we
have
the
the
request
and
the
appeal,
and
then
we
have
the
response
from
from
staff.
F
But
what
we
don't
have
is
a
privilege
to
kind
of
see
what
is
what
documentation
is
being
withheld,
and
you
know
so
without
that,
it's
almost
as
if
we
have
no
other
option.
Besides
trusting
our
our
city
attorney
staff
on
you
know
what
should
be
released
or
not.
Is
there
a
way
around
that?
Because
I
it
sounds
like
that's
our
decision
to
make
today
correct
nora,
we're
making
a
decision
whether
or
not
to
release
some
of
these
documents,
but
but
we
don't
even
know
what
they're,
what
they
are.
K
Well,
correct
and,
and
if
they're
privileged,
that
this
that
privilege
is
actually
held
by
the
council,
so
that
would
be
a
decision
that
would
then
have
to
go
to
the
council.
It
is.
F
K
And-
and
I
think
if
the
council
wanted
to
see
them
since
you
hold
the
privilege
that
that
could
certainly
be
accommodated
and-
and
I
think
council
member
you're
you're
correct
it-
it
is
somewhat
campaign-like
there.
K
There
is
a-
and
I
don't
know
much
about
solutions
san
jose,
but
there
is
a
as
I
understand
in
a
501
c
4
that
has
been
started
and
just
like
with
a
campaign
you're
very
careful,
or
we
always
tell
you
to
be
very
careful
about
not
using
city
email,
not
using
city
resources
for
your
campaigning,
and
the
same
would
be
true
for
anything
that
a
a
non-profit
like
this
or
your
business.
K
If
you
had
a
private
business
any
of
those
kinds
of
things,
so
I
think
what
staff
is
saying
is
that
a
search
was
done
and
there
weren't
any
responsive
documents
that
were
found
that
related
to
city
business,
there's
solutions,
san
jose
and
that
and
that
entity
or
that
business.
K
F
Okay,
yeah,
I
get
well
so
my
recommendation
would
be
if
it
is,
you
know,
privileged
documents
of
the
council.
I
would
need
to
have
a
better
understanding
of
what
it
actually
is.
So
then
that
way
we
could
make
a
you
know
a
real
honest
decision
on
whether
or
not
okay
yeah.
We
we
understand.
We
see
why
you
know,
city
staff
have
have
deemed
them,
you
know
confidential
and
and
then
that
we
can
make
a
better
decision.
So
I
don't
think
we're
informed
enough
today
to
make
that.
F
So
what
I
my
recommendation
would
be
that
we
have
a
conversation
in
closed
session
and
then
and
then
be
able
to
make
a
decision
at
the
full
council
on
after
we
have
that
process.
Discussion
on
whether
or
not
you
know
the
full
council
agrees.
Yes,
these
are
privileged
or
no
they're.
Not
so
that'd
be
my
recommendation.
K
F
That's
that's
a
that's
a
motion
if
vice
mayor.
D
Thank
you
vice
mayor,
I'm
trying
to
wrap
my
head
around
the
issue,
and
I
appreciate
council
member
prowles
asking
for
the
content
of
the
material
and
that
way
we
can
understand
this
as
a
relationship
better,
but
before
we
we
do
can.
Can
you
explain
nora
how
if,
if
there's?
No,
if
there
was
a
surge-
and
there
was
no
city
business
on
the
on
whatever
documents.
K
Sure
that
my
I'm
talking
about
the
request
itself,
which
was
for
communications
between
the
mayor
and
others,
his
chief
of
staff
associates,
might
have
to
pull
up
the
exact
language
and
the
search
was
done.
As
I
understand
it.
K
I
wasn't
involved
with
that,
but,
as
I
understand
the
search
was
done,
the
public
records
act
request
was
responded
to
and
as
part
of
the
search,
it's
actually
in
an
email
between
a
lawyer
in
my
office
and
a
member
of
the
mayor's
staff
and
then
a
a
question
back
and
then
a
another
email
between
my
office
and
a
member
of
the
mayor's
staff.
K
A
back
and
forth
three
emails
that
were
found-
and
I
think
jessica
had
indicated
that
they
weren't
necessarily
responsive.
But
the
request
was
being
read
broadly,
which
is
how
public
records
act.
Requests
are
to
be
read
and
but
because
they
were
between
our
office
and
a
staff
person
in
the
mayor's
office,
and
it
was
a
a
question
about
handling.
K
It
was
seeking
legal
advice,
typically
sure.
Typically,
then
those
are
our
identified
as
being
privileged
and
the
city
attorney
no
attorney
can
release
a
privileged
communication.
The
privilege
is
with
the
client
and
so
the
so
that's
why
the
privilege
is
asserted
and
that
that
was
the
response
to
the
public
records
act.
Request.
D
Or
no,
I
I
understand.
I
know
that
before
we
campaign,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
in
our
teams
dotting
our
eyes,
and
so
we
may
ask
you,
for
you
know
just
to
make
sure
nora
am
I
crossing
line.
Am
I
not
crossing
the
line,
so
I
can
completely
understand
that
kind
of
communication.
D
D
It
okay,
I
am
having
some
technical
issues,
so
I
might
have
not
heard
jessica
correctly,
so
I
apologize
okay
so
that
that's
the
that's
the
part
that
that
has
to
do
with
attorney-client
privilege,
got
it
okay
and
are
there
any
other
documents
that
exist
aside
from
those
three
emails.
K
D
A
D
So
so
this
was
a
broad
request,
I'm
guessing
that
if
it
was
more
specific
that
there
would
be
something
else
that
would
be
rendered
in
the
search.
You
know
I
I
don't
know,
I'm
not
sure,
but
I
did
hear
you
say
that
it
was
a
a
broad
request.
K
No,
I
think
it
was
interpreted
broadly,
the
request
was
fairly
specific,
but
it
was
interpreted
broadly.
The
request
itself
probably
wouldn't
capture
these
emails,
but
because
it
was
interpreted
broadly
and
these
emails
were
found
in
the
search
they
were,
they
were
identified
and
the
privilege
was
identified.
D
Okay,
okay!
Well,
you
know
I
I
I
like
councilmember
browse's
solution
about
maybe
hearing
this
in
closed
session
and
having
a
follow-up
just
to
ensure
you
know
our
news
outlets
that
there
isn't
any
opaqueness.
D
I
know
that,
oh
somebody
from
the
public
use
that
word
and
and
and
you
know
if
there
is
something
that
we
overlooked,
then
we
are
you
no
willing
to
face
that,
but
at
this
point
I'm
not
sure,
so
I
guess
at
the
the
only
other
option
would
be
a
closed
session
discussion
at
this
point,
so
I'll
support
that
motion.
Obviously
I
need
that.
Second,
thank
you.
B
Thank
you
before
we
I
go
to
you
councilmember
davis.
I
just
want
to
offer
a
suggestion.
B
Ramona
did
throw
out
a
compromise,
and
that
is
to
provide
a
log
of
the
emails
that
I
know,
nor
that
we
don't
necessarily
want
to
create
a
precedent
providing
a
log,
but
I
I
also
know
there's
only
like
three
emails
and
so
the
amount
of
work
to
create
that
log
wouldn't
be
be
that
much,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
get
your
feedback
on
that
possibility.
K
Thank
you
vice
mayor
it.
It
is
true
that
the
public
records
act
does
not
require
a
log,
and
it's
also
correct
that
in
there
have
been
a
couple
of
occasions
when
we've
been
in
litigation
and
we've
asserted
that
position,
it's,
it
is
not
required.
K
B
Great
thank
you.
So
I
don't
want
to
give
the
impression
to
my
colleagues
that
I
don't
want
to
spend
extra
time
with
you
in
closed
session
discussing
certain
matters,
but
I
don't
want
to
spend
extra
time
with
you
in
closed
session,
but
I
just
want
you
to
take
that
into
consideration.
Councilmember
davis,
when
you
provide
your
input.
G
Thank
you
vice
mayor.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
understand
what
we're
saying
so
I
I
I'm
thinking
about
it
in
the
same
way
that
council,
member
problems
and
council
member
arenas
are
in
terms
of
the
the
solution.
San
jose
is
very
similar
to
you
know
when,
when
we're
campaigning,
my
campaign
before
I
was
in
office
was
very
different
from
my
campaign.
G
I
I
was
just
reading
the
the
request
on
the
background
and
it
just
it
actually
doesn't
say
anything
about.
It
says
about
the
mayor's
staff
like
internal
communications
and
then
with
consultants
lobbyists
or
associates
related
to
solutions.
San
jose
nora,
would
is
that
request
if
it
was
on
a
private
email?
Does
that
is
that
request,
even
something
that
we,
as
the
council
can
say,
has
to
be
fulfilled?
K
Private
private
emails,
if
they
relate
to
the
business
of
the
city,
are
disclosable
if
you're
using
your
private
email
account.
K
So
if
you
go
to
a
google
account
or
yahoo
account
to
do
the
business
of
the
city,
that
is
disclosable
the
question
and
the
issue
with
this
request
is
whether
or
not
there
were
emails
on
city
accounts
or
personal
accounts
that
related
to
the
business
of
the
city.
G
Okay,
I
think
that's
might
be
where
there
might
be
some
confusion
because
solution
san
jose,
I
get
their
emails
too,
to
my
personal
email
and
they
sometimes
they
talk
about
issues
that
are
related
to
the
city
or
that
are
you,
know,
local
issues
of
interest,
but
that
doesn't
mean
they're
about
that
they're
about
city,
business,
right.
G
K
The
the
business
of
the
city
is
the
what
I
would
call
the
business
of
the
municipality,
the
the
the
policies,
the
work
being
done
by
by
city
staff
issues.
Be
you
know
that
are
on
coming
before
the
council
on
agendas,
the
the
work
of
the
council
that
sort
of
thing?
Okay,
I
think
issues
of
interest
in
the
city
might
might
be
something
like
a
new
nonprofit
raising
money
to
facilitate
parks,
or
you
know
something
something
along
those
lines.
K
You
know
the
the
gates
foundation
deciding
to
give
a
huge
grant
to
a
school
district
in
the
city
that
that
might
be
of
interest
to
everyone
in
the
city.
But
it's
not
the
business
of
municipality.
G
Okay,
thanks
I'm
I
mean
I'm
fine
with
with
I
agree
with
the
with
the
vice
mayor.
If
there
are
only
these
three
emails
and
and
all
of
us
are
kind
of
thinking
about
solutions,
san
jose
being
you
know
like
when
you
run
a
campaign,
and
you
just
you
know
you
file
for
your
fppc
number
and
it's
its
own
entity.
It
has
its
own
name.
G
If
we're
thinking
of
solutions,
san
jose
like
that,
then
the
stuff
that
happens
off
of
the
city
emails
doesn't
seem
like
something
that,
like
that,
doesn't
concern
us,
because
my
my
emails
when
I'm
running
for
reelection
to
my
treasurer,
none
of
it
is
on
city
email.
It's
on
my
personal
email.
That's
not
that's!
Not
public
records
act,
disclosable,
right,
nora,.
I
K
And
if
it's
separate
no,
then
that's
the
business
of
your
campaign
and
and
that
arguably
is
the
business
of
the
city,
but
it's
very
clear
under
the
law
that
you've
got
to
do
that
separately.
G
D
I
just
wanted
to
clarify.
I
know
that
another
area
of
confusion
was
the
title
that
the
mayor
used
in
his
emails,
and
I
know
in
any
mailers
that
I
send
out,
while
I'm
complaining,
if
I
use
the
word
councilmember
underneath
we
say,
or
at
the
bottom
of
the
page,
for
identification
purposes.
Only
so
as
to
not
lend
itself
to
have
people
believe
that
it's
coming
from
the
city
of
san
jose
is
that
something
that
can
also
be
corrected,
because
I
don't.
I
I've
also
been
receiving
those
emails.
K
Yes,
I
haven't
been
asked
about
that.
I,
and
I
again
I
haven't
seen
them
so
I
I.
D
Yeah,
I
I
have
seen
menorah.
I
think
that
that
would
be
an
area
of
concern
that
would
maybe
mislead
some
folks
thinking
that
it's
coming
from
the
city
of
san
jose.
So
I
think
that
could
be
something
that
that
you
know
your
office
could
maybe
advise
the
mayor,
although
I'm
sure
that
the
mayor
knows
some
of
these
rules
he's
been
in
this
field
a
lot
longer
than
I
have
anyways.
That
was
the
the
other
loose
thread
for
me.
D
I'm
also
supportive
of
what
vice
sphere
suggested
and
what
what
ramona
and
josh
have
asked
for.
So
I
don't
know
the
make
of
the
motion
if
they
want
to
reconsider
or
we
can
move
ahead
with
closed
session.
I
love
seeing
you
guys
in
closed
session.
F
L
Yes,
thank
you
very
much
council
member
corrales.
We
do
want
a
lot.
We
think
that's
really
important,
because
we
want
to
see
who
the
email
was
sent
from
who
was
received,
who
was
cc'd
when
it
was
sent,
what
the
general
topic
was
and
why
it's
being
interpreted
as
being
privileged,
but
I
think
we
also
want
staff
to
go
back
and
do
a
more
thorough
search.
L
We
do
find
it
hard
to
believe
that
our
pra
request
being
as
broad
as
it
was
only
rendered
three
emails
when
we
see
that
this
solution,
san
jose,
is
consistently
lobbying
on
public
policies
consistently
hosting
events
that
included
city
officials
and
outside
officials.
There
is
communication
happening,
we're
very
confident
of
that.
So
we
want
to
be
sure
that
some
emails
were
not
missed
and
that
that
that
truly
there
are
only
three
emails
pertaining
to
solution.
L
San
jose,
and
hopefully
we
can
also
get
some
clarity
on
whether
or
not
that
constituted
as
legal
advice.
Because,
as
I
mentioned,
you
know,
city
attorney.
Freeman
said
it
was
not
legal
advice.
So
I
think
there
needs
to
be
some
clarity
around
what
is
legal
advice
and
what
isn't
and
when
the
city
uses
that
privilege
to
withhold
records.
L
Correct
so,
as
I
indicated
when
an
outside
entity
or
a
non-city
official
is
included
in
these
communications
at
that
time,
that
privilege
is
destroyed,
and
so
we
did
a
second
request
to
ask
for
any
emails
from
the
mayor's
office,
his
staff,
his
associates
folks,
who
work
for
him
and
any
non-city
officials
and
outside
organizations,
and
we
were
told
by
the
city
that
there
were
no
records
again
despite
the
fact
that
there
are
at
least
two
events
that
are
being
held
by
solutions.
L
San
jose
mayor,
le
cardo
sat
on
one
of
those
two
panels
himself,
along
with
you
know,
officials
from
outside
organizations,
officials
from
the
city
organization.
We
were
told
that
no
other
emails
exist
beyond
these
three.
Now
I'm
hearing
three,
we
didn't
even
know
it
was
three
but
right
now
we're
hearing
just
three
emails.
F
Okay-
and
I
don't
know-
maybe
the
mayor's
really
good
at
crossing
his
keys
and
dotting
his
eyes,
ensuring
that
he's
you
know
using
the
right
accounts,
but
nora
would
they
have
to
make
another
request
if
they're
asking
for
an
additional,
more
thorough,
look
or
is
that
something?
If
we
make
the
motion
that
says,
do
the
the
log
and
then
you
know,
can
you
do
another
sweep?
Is
that
something
that
we
can
direct
here
and
you
can
do.
K
And
yeah,
thank
you,
council,
member
and
first
I'd
like
to
clarify
something
I
was
what
I
was
trying
to
say
was.
We
did
not
provide
any
advice
on
setting
up
solutions,
san
jose
any
legal
advice
to
solution
san
jose.
K
I
don't
think
we
knew
there
was
a
solution-
san
jose
until
there
was
a
solution
in
san
jose.
So
that's
we
did
not
provide
any
legal
advice
in
that
arena
at
all,
and
that
was
the
that
was
the
intent
of
my
email
to
to
say
that
we
were
not
involved
in
the
setting
up
of
that
non-profit
or
giving
any
advice.
I
don't
know
if
I
assume
there
was
a
lawyer
involved
at
some
point,
but
it
wasn't
anybody
in
our
office
that
gave
any
advice
about
setting
up
solutions
san
jose.
K
I
think
there
is
a
second
request
if
I'm
understanding
this
series
correctly-
and
it
looks
as
though,
but
I'm
not
sure
I
have
a
oh
yeah
june
3rd-
it
appears
that
there
was
an
email,
I
think
from
ramona.
If
I'm
reading
this
correctly
and
to
henry
in
the
mayor's
office,
henry
smith,
indicating
that
she
thought
that
denial
was
improper,
that
she
was
appealing
it
and
and
then
also
issuing
a
new
public
records
act,
request
that
it
was
requesting
a
narrower
set
of
records.
K
C
L
The
second
pra
request
was
very
specific:
it
asked
for
emails
from
the
mayor's
staff
and
himself
to
outside
agencies
and
non-city
organizations,
non-city
officials,
because
we're
seeing
these
events
that
were
being
coordinated
with
outside
groups,
and
we
were
told
that
that
request
has
been
closed.
There
were
no
documents
found.
F
K
But
no,
if,
if
council
gives
our
office
direction
to
create
a
or
if
this
committee
gives
our
office
direction
to
create
a
a
log,
we're
certainly
willing
to
do
that.
Like
I
say
if
it
was
a,
this
is
an
expansive
number
of
documents
that
it
might
tax
us
a
bit,
but
it's
three.
So
so
we
can
do
that.
I
don't
know
if,
if
another,
if
this
committee
can
can
direct
another
sweep
that
that
is
probably
something
that.
K
If,
if
the
mayor's
office
wants
to
search
again
and
and
and
the
administration
wants
to
search
again
for
documents,
they
at
the
request
of
this
committee,
that
that
request
can
be
made.
B
Well,
we
might
as
well,
if
we
can
do
that,
I
I
we
should
we
might
as
well.
Do
it
raul,
because
otherwise
they're
gonna
just
make
another
pra
request.
So
yeah.
F
B
B
B
I
guess
we
would
save
everybody
time
and
effort
if
we
just
incorporate
that.
F
Yeah,
besides
city
attorney
staff,
the
mayor
staff,
you
know
maybe
gonna
go
and
dig
again,
okay,
so
I'm
happy
to
to
amend
the
motion
then
to
include
the
the
log
and
then
request
a
secondary,
more
thorough.
You
know
search
of
that
first
pre.
L
And
if
I,
if
I
may,
we
would,
we
would
request
that
it
include
his
personal
gmail
account
personal
devices
of
the
staff
as
well.
I
know
nora
mentioned
that
that
was
part
of
the
initial
search,
but
we
think
that's
really
important
that
private
gmail
accounts
and
personal
devices
are
included.
Thank
you.
So
much.
K
And
in
and
I
should
clarify,
I
don't
know
what
was
searched.
Our
office
doesn't
do
the
searches
that's
handled
at
the
department,
level
and
office
level
and
and
in
coordination
with
the
city's
records
coordinator,
jessica
and
but
it
if
there
is,
if
private
accounts
are
used
for
city
business,
then
they
do
need
to
be
searched.
B
B
And
councilmember
colin,
I
saw
your
hand
going
up
down
the
question.
B
E
B
Okay,
so
the
motion
was
modified
and
did
this
was
it
okay
with
the
secondary?
I
don't
even
remember
who
that
was.
B
Thank
you
and
councilmember
davis.
A
B
As
much
as
I
wanted
to
spend
that
extra
time
with
you
all
right,
we
got
a
motion
in
a
second
tony.
Let's
vote.
A
F
C
F
B
B
Thank
you,
okay,
on
to
open
forum,
and
we
have
three
four
speakers.
First,
one
is
paul.
Go
ahead,
paul.
P
Thank
you
vice
mayor
on
behalf
of
myself,
the
chicano
community
and
my
ancestors
and
elders
that
have
suffered
under
the
oppressive
institutionalized
racism
that
exist
in
this
city.
I
would
like
to
thank
ramona
and
josh
for
their
diligence
for
the
due
diligence
and
seeking
this
out.
We
don't
have
to
be
told
that
we're
being
conned
that
we're
being
lied
to
that
duplicity,
to
cannery
profiteering
and
and
people
using
power
to
sidle
up
with
power
and
that
power
that
they,
that
the
power
that
they
possess
is
extracted
from
the
people.
P
P
P
That's
what
he
did,
because
he
wasn't
in
that
non-disclosure
agreement
with
google
because
he's
cute.
He
was
there
because
he
was
a
representative
of
the
people
and
the
power
that
the
people
gave
him.
He
used
it
and
he
used
it
again.
He
weaponized
it
power
is
being
weaponized
in
this
city.
You
are
creating
every
single
time.
You
make
those
votes,
you
are
pointing
a
gun
at
a
human
being
and
you're
pulling
the
trigger.
You
are
murdering
that
person.
You
are
killing
him
by
genocide,
cultural
existential,
spiritual,
psychological
and
you
must
be
held
to
account.
B
Thank
you,
paul
blair,.
I
Hi,
thank
you
boybeekman
here
to
quickly
comment
on
paul's
words.
You
know
with
with
the
difficulties
of
the
recent
mass
shooting,
just
a
reminder
that
open
public
policies
and
good
democratic
practices
can
really
invites
our
better
selves,
and
I
think
that's
how
we
can
get
out
of
this,
and
it
creates
our
better
practices.
I
I
It
was
something
of
this
same
episode
and
he
asked
for
the
emails
and
the
heading
headings
of
the
subject,
heading
of
of
certain
people,
and
I
think
it
was
it
was
in
the
rules
that
was
decided.
It
could
be
okay
check
it
out
it's
from
about
2016,
josh
cohen
of
the
metro
when
he
used
to
work
there
with
a
minute
seven
left.
I
also
I
wanted
to
talk
about
high
speed
rail
issues
steered
on
station
planning.
I
think
I'll
save
that
for
ced
next
week.
I
So
that
leaves
me
57
seconds
to
talk
about
the
just
a
thank
you
that
you're
able
to
offer
a
continuance
for
flea
market
items
every
day
is
just
learning
to
explain
a
little
bit
more
about
what
good
it
can
give
by.
You
know
really
learning
to
want
to
respect
vendors
ideas
and
what
I
think
it's,
if
you
allow
them
the
the
space
to
create
ideas
for
the
design
for
how
vendors
can
work
the
co-op
system
that's
possible,
for
it
a
whole
bunch
of
things.
I
If
you
put
that,
if
you
really
allow
dialogue
with
the
vendors
towards
those
goals,
I
think
you'll
create
something
incredibly
interesting.
That
will
respect
the
future
of
the
flea
market
area.
Don't
be
fooled
by
the
july.
12Th
deal
that's
possible.
We
don't
have
affordable
housing
ideas
in
place.
We
really
need
low
income,
housing,
low
income,
low
income.
B
Thank
you,
blair.
The
number
ending
at
4963.
J
Yeah
hi,
martha
o'connell.
I
I'm
requesting
that
the
the
city
council
and
the
rules
committee
recommend
city
council
take
up
a
very
simple
thing.
There
was
a
unfortunate
incident
that
occurred
on
tuesday,
and
that
is
that
I
had
stepped
out
of
the
room,
because
I
can't
I
can't
be
constantly
sitting
for
hours.
J
While
you
guys
do
a
council
meeting
and
eight
three
and
eight
four
were
combined.
When
I
came
back
in
the
room,
you
guys
were
on
eight
four.
There
was
nothing
on
the
screen
that
said
that
they
were
considering
eight
three
and
eight
four,
and
I
did
email
tony
about
this,
and
she
said
she
didn't
have
time
to
do
that
because
it
was
a
on
the
spot
decision.
J
I
respectfully
request
that
you
take
the
time
you
give
the
city
clerk
appropriate
time
to
put
it
up
on
the
screen,
so
the
public
knows
that
8
3
is
being
combined
later
in
the
meeting.
Someone
from
the
law
foundation
asked
because
I
reviewed
the
tape
this
morning.
Are
we
talking
about
8-4,
and
the
mayor
said
yes,
which
made
me
think
that
8-3
was
coming
up
later.
J
Strange,
no
presentation
on
that
item.
So
please,
if
you
are
going
to
combine
items,
put
them
both
up
on
the
screen,
as
you
did
on
10
1
and
10
3
later
on.
In
the
meeting,
it
was
clear
to
the
public
that
they
had
been
combined.
I
think
this
is
really
important
and
you
would
help
the
citizens
if
you
would
do
that.
Thank
you.
M
Sneaky
sneaky
man
city
of
san
jose,
you
guys
are
you
guys,
are
low
likes
the
way
you
do
things.
Man
like
that.
Can
you
imagine
that
woman?
She
her
democratic
process,
was
denied
just
like
everybody
else's
with
the
this
fairy
essa
flea
market
thing,
but
I
mean
I
still
keep
getting
these
calls
coming
through
about.
They
keep
calling
from
the
1930s
the
national
socialist
party.
They
want
their
gun
control
measures
back,
see
you
guys,
you
remove
people
yeah,
you
change
the
way,
the
flags.
M
M
You
know
the
democratic
party
that
you
guys
represent
you're,
not
you're,
social.
It's
really
your
national
socialist
down.
You
know
it.
You
guys
know
it
what
you
do
to
people,
it's
criminal,
the
fines,
the
fees,
but
you
know
you
give
away
a
couple
freebies
or
you
know
whatever
and
all
of
a
sudden
you
guys
are
supposed
to
be
the
good
guys.
You
know
you,
you
wave
a
lifestyle
flag.
It
makes
you
a
nice
person.
M
You
clean
up
a
creek,
you
take
a
kid
shopping
for
a
plastic
toy
and
all
of
a
sudden,
you
guys
you
guys
march
in
a
relay
whatever
you
do
spread.
Some
documents
have
a
trash
pickup
day
just
makes
you
people
nice
people
you're.
Not
just
wait.
You
don't
have
enough
money
for
overnight
police
patrols.
You
wonder
why
the
crime's
out
of
control,
but
you
got
enough
money
for
traffic
enforcement-
got
all
got
all
the
money
for
that
man
right.
You
got
enough
money
to
you
know
prance
around
in
parades
raise
flags.
M
You're
gonna
have
enough
people
to
probably
clear
the
people
out
of
the
flea
market.
Wait
till
that
happens.
Man
we're
gonna,
we're
gonna,
see
the
the
guys
who
bought
the
toys
for
the
kids,
beat
them
up,
get
them
out
of
the
flea
market
for
good,
so
they
can
build
a
bart
station.
Can
you
imagine
that.
B
Thank
you,
tessa.
N
Yeah
hi,
oh
good,
thank
you
open
forum
on
the
display
good
for
you.
Thank
you,
okay
yeah.
I
guess
I
was
looking
at.
I
guess
it's
jessica
lowry,
who's
on
the
meeting
and
I
was
like
looked
her
up
and
she's
part
of
open
government.
I
said:
oh
okay,
maybe
I'll
contact
her,
because
what
we're
dealing
with
in
terms
of
our
neighborhood
is
the
fact
that
the
general
amendment
changes
the
general
plan
changes
without
notification
of
our
neighborhood.
So
it's
like,
oh
okay,
maybe
she'll
be
interested
in
our
open
government.
I
mean
that's.
N
You
know
I
was
hoping
you
know.
I
could
contact
some.
You
know
sylvia
arenas
or
something
who's
been
working
on
our
neighborhood
in
terms
of
denying
the
memorialization
of
our
historic
district,
but
the
historic
district
that
I'm
talking
about
is
one
that
is
of
the
people
and
that's
where
we're
trying
to
fight
is
the
corporatization.
N
What
I
call
the
financialization
of
our
lands,
where
our
lands
have
become
cash
boxes
for
our
city?
That's
what
the
hotel
plan
is
and
everything
was
designed
to
make
that
hotel
come
into
our
neighborhood
since
07
or
08,
where
you
decided
that
no
jobs
for
housing,
conversions-
and
that
has
created
this
this
it
is
for
the
and
even
planning
michael
brilliod-
says
it's
to
make
money
for
our
city.
Well,
I'm
not
happy
with
the
way
our
money
is
actually
going
towards
our
city.
N
I
say
it's
ill-gotten
gains
to
make
it
from
hotels
that
are
the
you
know
the
foundation
of
what
we
need
to
stop
doing,
which
is
traveling
and
air
air
travel
and
and
we
need
to
be
staying
home.
But
the
thing
is:
the
hotel
is
all
about
economic
growth
and
development
and
burning
of
fossil
fuels.
We
have
not
figured
out
how
to
make
that
airplane
without
fossil
fuels.
N
Okay,
so
we
are
developing
the
the
traveling
mechanisms
and
supporting
that
and
that
needs
to
change
when
we're
in
a
climate
emergency,
and
we
need
to
be
doing
things
differently.
So
it's
not
only
the
way
our
our
general
plan
needs
to
be
looked
at,
how
you're
changing
it,
but
also
our
climate
change
issues.