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City of San José, California
Joint meeting of Rules and Open Government / Committee of the Whole of December 8, 2021
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A
B
And
then
one
extra
me
so
I'm
sure
that's
enough
to
get
started.
Welcome
to
the
joint
meeting
for
the
rules
and
open
government
and
committee
of
the
whole.
B
Okay,
yeah,
don't
don't
confuse
me
like
that,
though
anyway,
can
we
have
a
roll
call?
Please.
D
F
D
E
D
H
I
To
unmute,
thank
you
for
the
question:
councilmember
davis.
Right
now
I
tried
to
keep
closed
session
cleared
so
that
because
we
were
having
an
early
start,
that's
why
we
had
a
big
agenda.
I
This
past
tuesday,
I
will
probably
put
a
matter
on
potential
litigation
relating
to
redistricting,
but
that
will
be
it
and
but
right
now
there
isn't
a
closed
session.
So
if
we
do
it,
we
could
do
it
at
9
30.
I
don't
think
it
would
be
a
tremendously
long
session,
but
sort
of
up
to
you
thanks.
B
And
11
on
page
10
item
2.13,
the
water
valley,
water,
purific,
purified
water
project
I
was
going
to.
I
would
pull
that
from
consent,
so
we
might
as
well
put
it
on
the
regular
agenda
and
I'll
keep
I'll
keep
the
conversation
as
short
as
possible,
but.
B
B
B
Okay,
lee
I'm
going
through
each
each
item
on
page
14.,
I
see
we
have
team
san
jose
deferred.
I
B
Great,
thank
you
and
lee
is
that
sound,
workable.
B
B
All
right-
that's
page
14
and
15.
B
F
Scroll
down
that's
up
to
the
rules
committee,
it
does
not
need
to
be
heard
by
the
end
of
the
year
for
any
legal
reason,
so
that
could
be
deferred
into
january.
B
Okay,
so
well,
I
guess
we'll
speak
to
that
during
our
discussion
and
that's
page
16.
on
page
again
on
page
16
item
5.1
is
deferred.
B
F
So
6.2
it
can
be
deferred
into
january,
but
is
fairly
straightforward
and
staff
would
like
to
have
it
heard
by
the
end
of
the
year.
J
B
K
Hi
everybody
a
really
interesting
couple
days
of
meetings.
Thank
you.
I
wanted
to
speak
on
the
10.4
items
of
urban
village.
You
had
it
that
was
at
council
last
night.
Thanks
that
I
was
hearing
the
first
words
starting
to
talk
about
mixed
income
ideas.
K
That
was
nice
hope
you
can
keep
up
the
efforts
of
eli
bli
and
mixed
income
for
the
future
of
urban
village
planning.
That's
awesome
and
to
really
be
aware
that
in
the
next
year
we're
going
to
have
to
talk
about
the
future
of
subsidies
that
want
to
be
used
for
urban
village
developing.
I
think
we
need
to
really
question
that
and
I
hope
we'll
be
ready
to
do
that.
K
There's
a
few
other
items,
the
there's
gonna
be
rate
issues
for
local
community
energy.
I
think
we,
I
hope
we
can
really
rally
to
defeat
the
recent
cpuc
and
pg
e
ideas
of
hike
rates
and
rate
heights
rate
hikes
and
solar
things.
They
have
a
really
backwards
plan.
As
usual.
I
think
they're
trying
to
find
ways,
so
people
will
like
just
convert
in
droves
to
local
community
energy,
but
I
think
it's
a
bit
of
the
wrong
approach.
K
It's
a
bit
too
competitive
and
capitalistic,
and
it
it
brings
out
the
worst
of
ourselves.
I
hope
we
can
do
it
in
in
much
softer
gender
terms,
and
so
please
say
no
to
the
pg
e
stuff
and
and
good
luck
with
our
own
rate
issues
that
I
think
are
a
bit
confusing
that
that
mirror
pg
e
ideas
really
talk
about
subsidy,
help
that
people
can
have
at
this
time
and
make
it
clear
to
people
and
make
it
bring
it
back
soon
bring
back
cheaper
rates
soon.
K
Let's
really
work
towards
renewable
ideas
and
about
charter
review
stuff.
You
know
in
the
next
year
just
to
be
make
things
clear.
If
you
need
the
help
know
people
can
I'm
not
gonna
go
there
thanks
a
lot.
B
All
right,
lizette.
K
B
You
I
don't
know
was
that
if
you're
having
some
issues,
oh
there,
you
go
go
ahead
and
start
speaking.
L
I
tried
to
push
it.
Can
you,
can
you
hear
me
now
loud.
L
Yeah,
thank
you.
Okay.
I
wanted
to
comment
specifically
on
the
amount
of
land
use
items
that
come
up
at
these
meetings
and
the
difficulty
that
I've
personally
had
with
only
one
minute
and
say
last
night
there
were
excuse
me
the
last
council,
meaning
there
was
just
a
collection
of
land
use
items
that
fell
under
the
general
plan
for
your
review
issues.
L
So
I
tried
for
in
one
minute
I
think
maybe
even
had
30
seconds
I
don't
know,
maybe
no
one
minute
to
explain
five
different
ideas
I
had
in
my
head
and
none
of
which
I
think
I
really
conveyed
very
well.
So
I'm
hopeful
that
as
we
go
forward.
I
know
this
won't
happen
again
for
another
four
years,
but
when
we
have
land
use
items
it
would
be
very
important
to
say
hey.
L
We
give
the
public
one
minute
and
we
consolidate
three
to
five
items
within
one
little
grouping
that
really
doesn't
give
anyone
a
chance
to
articulate
exactly
a
thought
that
could
even
be
helpful
to
you.
So
then,
in
fact,
it's
almost
just
not
worth
it
for
you
guys
to
have
to
kind
of
tolerate.
Our
smattering
of
you
know
like
incoherent
message,
so
I'd
like
it,
if
we
could
figure
out
a
way
to
have
land
use
items
have
their
own
item,
so
I
could
have
spoken
a
minute
on
signature
products.
L
Excuse
me
signature
projects
a
minute
on.
You
know
the
commercial
component.
I
know
that's
coming
up
separate,
but
anyway,
that's
just
a
thought
and
on
this
one
I'm
happy
to
see
that
it
looks
like
maybe
there's
only
one
or
two
within
each
grouping.
L
J
Okay,
thank
you
paul
from
horseshoe.
I
I
agree
with
the
last
caller.
This
is
this
is
how,
if,
if
you
can't
get
the
public
with
the
policy
issues,
then
you
circumvent
democracy
by
doing
what
you're
doing
now,
I
we
all
already
know
ricardo
is
going
to
say
one
minute
and
I
don't
put
it
past
him
to
putting
it
down
to
30
seconds.
J
J
It
absolutely
needs
to
be
cut
in
half.
There's
too
many
land
issues
there's
way
too
many
land
issues
to
discuss
that
consent
calendar.
You
have
at
least
two
items
that
need
to
be
taken
off
there
and
I
would
like
to
hear
nora
speak
on
the
record
whether
or
not
I
as
a
citizen
can
pull
an
item
from
the
consent
calendar
because
it
states
it
on
the
record.
It
states
it
on
the
agenda
that
I
do
have
that
ability,
but
locato
has
circumvented
that
it's
against
the
law.
You
guys
like
talking
about
the
law.
J
This
is
against
the
law,
so
I
would
like
it
now
stated
openly
from
nora
whether
or
not
I,
as
a
citizen,
have
the
ability
to
pull
from
this
consent
calendar.
An
item
that
I
would
like
to
hear
discussed
with
respect
to
what
you
know
what
the
meeting
that
happened
earlier
today.
It's
absolutely
necessary,
because
I
have
some
arguments
that
I
would
like
to
articulate
within
the
context
of
pulling
from
the
consent.
But
I
don't
have
that
ability,
because
the
card.
B
Thank
you
before
we
go
the
next
speaker,
nor
I
know
that
you've
spoken
to
this
before.
But
can
you
just
reiterate
what
you've
told
us
in
the
past
about
a
citizen's
ability
to
pull
an
item
off
the
consent
calendar.
I
I
But
there
are
the
only
reason
someone
would
pull
an
item
to
use
that
term.
Someone
on
the
council
is
because
they're
going
to
vote
no
on
that
item,
otherwise
they
have
to
they
have
to
vote
no
on
consent
and
there,
and
there
may
be
a
number
of
other
items
that
they
would
positively
vote
on,
and
so
that's
why
the
council
has
the
ability
to
pull
an
item
for
a
separate
vote.
Otherwise
the
entire
consent
calendar
is
to
be
addressed
together
and
then
the
other
reason,
and
we
had
an
example
last
night.
I
I
guess
it
was
last
night
it
was
last
night.
It
only
seems
like
it
was
four
days
ago
where
there
one
of
the
council
members,
had
a
conflict,
and
so
he
could
vote
on
everything
else.
But
he
couldn't
vote
on
that
and
his
obligation
under
the
charter
is
to
vote
if
he's
there,
and
so
that
one
item
had
to
be
separated
and
be
pulled,
but
yeah.
The
reason
that
the
council,
that
it's
the
council
that
can
pull
items
is
because
consent
is
to
be
yay
or
may
as
a
whole.
B
Thank
you,
norah
brian.
M
Thank
you
I
I
I
it
says
it.
Hopefully
I
have
to
go
back
and
look,
but
it
says
right
on
the
agenda
that
people
from
the
public
can
pull
consent
items
and
in
santa
clara
you
can
at
the
council
mate
meetings
at
school
districts.
You
can,
and
I
think
the
gentleman
has
a
point
I
understand
it
could
get
used
where
you
pull
every
item
off
the
consent,
calendar
and
use
this
to
tie
up
stuff,
but
I
I
if
it
says
it
right
on
the
agenda
and
I'm
going
by
memory.
M
M
M
It
took
six
months
actually
longer
than
that
to
settle
this
little
issue
and
why
I
didn't
do
it
to
drive
home
to,
because
I'm
you
know
real
predicted
about,
but
to
drive
home
the
point
that
there's
something
broken
when
it
takes
that
long
to
do
something
that
simple
and
I'm
not
the
only
one
that
says
this.
People
on
the
council
said
the
same
thing.
If
I
could
just
hear
yes,
we
do
read
your
emails.
M
I
don't
expect
people
to
agree
with
me
most
likely
they
won't,
but
a
lot
of
us
walk
away
from
the
stuff
that
goes
on
honestly
thinking
that
about
95
to
98
of
stuff
is
already
set
before.
There's
even
public
comment-
and
I
probably
I'm
wrong
on
that-
it's
probably
more
of
an
emotional
response,
but
optics
are
important
too,
and
I
think
folks
sort
of
understand
what
I'm
saying.
Thank
you.
H
H
It
is
the
last
item
before
we're
going
to
talk
about
the
redistricting,
so
I
was
wondering
if
we
could
do
a
knot
before
and
I
would
like
to
know
what
we
you
might
think.
A
good
not
before
for
10.5
would
be.
B
F
I'm
gonna
help
phone
a
friend
here
but
gloria.
I.
B
F
Ask
you
to
chime
in
to
ask
if
10.3,
10.4
or
10.5
were
noticed
for
any
specific
time
on
this
agenda.
I
I
believe
they
were
noted
for
6
p.m.
I
was
looking.
N
F
Yeah,
so
just
my
this
is
more
personal
recommendation.
I
I
would
say
not
before
six
just
because
it's
been
noticed
on
that
yeah
and
that
might
give
you
a
bit
more
time
than
saying
versus
seven
o'clock,
because
if
it
does
end
early
you're,
not
butting
up
against
the
curfew
for
redistricting.
H
Yes,
well,
that's
why
I
asked
the
vice
mayor.
She
always
gives
us
optimistic
recommendations
as
well,
so
I'd
like
to
put
10.5
as
not
before
six,
which
I
think
it
already
is,
but
maybe
then
it'll
we'll
hear
it
before
10.3
and
10.4
potentially
and
then
so
I'll
make
the
motion
to
approve
the
agenda
with
the
staff
recommendations
for
the
deferrals,
the
ad
sheet
moving
2.3
to
a
from
consent
to
a
numbered
item,
hearing
3.4
last
moving
3.5
to
january
11th,
and
then
I
think
I
wrote
down
3.7.
H
O
C
Well,
first,
I
wanted
to
ask
that
we
keep
3.7
on
the
agenda
next
week.
I
think
we
can
get
through
that
efficiently
and
get
it
done.
We've
people
have
been
waiting
a
while
for
this,
and
it
would
be
good
to
have
it
done
before
the
holidays
for
people
to
have
some
certainty
and
it
yeah.
C
I
also
have
a
question
about
charter
review
just
for
staff
just
to
confirm
if
we've
deferred,
that
to
january
11
and
council
has
a
desire
to
have
something
ready
for
the
june
primary
ballot
like
if
there
were
recommendations
from
the
charter
that
had
some
time
sensitivity
and
we
needed
to
craft
a
ballot
measure
and
bring
it
to
the
ballot
for
june.
Would
would.
Is
there
still
enough
time
to
start
that
on
january
11
to
get
that
ready
for
the
registrar
and
have
it
on
the
ballot
for
june.
F
So
I
don't
know
a
joy
if
you
have
the
specific
date
for
the
june
election,
but
typically,
if
we're
placing
something
on
a
june
ballot
measure,
we
would
need
the
council
to
approve
that
during
the
first
meeting
of
march,
typically
so
march,
1st
for
placement
on
a
june
agenda.
So
that
would
give
you
you
know,
roughly
two
months
january
and
february,
to
sort
that
out.
C
C
Okay,
okay,
thank
you!
So
I'm,
okay
with
the
rex
recommendations,
I'd
I'd
like
to
ask
whether
councilmember
davis
is
okay
with
from
the
amendment
to
keep
3.7
on
the
december
14th
agenda,.
H
I'll
be
honest,
I
I'm
not
interested
in
that
because
it
can
be
deferred,
and
I
know
that
project
labor
agreements
from
the
last
two
times
that
we've
done.
It
always
have
a
ton
of
public
comment
and
we're
going
to
have
a
ton
of
public
comment
on
redistricting.
So
I'd
really
rather
save
the
time
for
the
item.
That
is,
has
a
deadline.
I
Vice
mayor,
may
I
interrupt
for
a
second
on
the
timing
of
the
land
use
items
under
the
council
policy.
Land
use
items
are
supposed
to
be
heard
in
the
evening
and
at
either.
If
you
know
you
can
say
it's
six
o'clock
or
no
earlier
than
six
or,
however,
you
want
to
do
it
unless
planning
staff
with
the
concurrence
of
this
committee
requests
an
afternoon
hearing
so
technically
it
should
those
should
go
in
the
evening.
Just
so.
You
know.
N
Thank
you.
I
was
also
interested
in
shortening
up
this
agenda
because
there's
so
many
items
here
that
are
going
to
have
lengthy
discussions,
I
was
actually
more
interested
in
maybe
having
some
of
the
general
plan
discussions
like
the
opportunity
housing
piece
go
to
january.
N
I
know
that
the
the
sb9
emergency
housing
emergency
ordinance
needs
to
happen
in
december,
but
I
wonder
if
we
could
take
the
opportunity
housing,
because
that
that
I
think
that,
aside
from
everything
else
on
the
general
plan,
I
think
everything
else
should
be
okay,
but
I'm
wondering
what
my
colleagues
think
about
that.
I
don't
know
that.
There's
any
urgency
on
the
opportunity,
housing
conversation
and
if
we
could
delay
that
to
january.
That
would
be
great.
N
I
you
know
I
just
caught
myself
with
the
three
points,
so
I
I
was
very
confused
about
all
the
numbers.
There
was
a
lot
of
numbers
going
around,
so
I'm
sorry.
I
do
want
to
be
supportive
and
and
move
as
many
things
around
in
january.
N
I
do
think
I've
got
to
say
that
last
week
I
you
know
what
was
it
last
week?
Oh
gosh,
I
don't
know
these
weeks
are
just
blending
in
now.
O
N
There
is
a
point
where
you
know
there
was
a
a
article
that
was
written
by
spotlight
and
it
really
detailed
some
of
the
by,
for
that
were
happening
in
our
very
own
construction
sites,
and
so
for
me
I
guess
it.
It
would
be
more
important
to
have
the
the
pla
discussion
sooner
than
than
later,
because
it
does
relate
to
the
you
know,
the
people's
livelihoods
and
their
well-being.
N
The
opportunity
housing
is
something
that's
very
far
in
the
future.
Where
it's
not
you
know,
it's
not
rolling
out
we're
not
going
to
it's,
not
a.
I
think
that
that
needs
to
get
discussed
this
month,
and
so
I
wonder
if
maybe
what
we
could
do
is
a
little
bit
of
swapping
swap
swap
the
the
opportunity
housing
for
january
keep
the
pla
for
this
month.
N
So
that
way
we
can
keep
things
adam.
I
don't,
I
can't
even
say
at
a
minimum,
because
we
have
so
much.
B
F
Yeah,
thank
you
vice
mayor,
I'm
going
to
refer
to
rosalind
hughie,
who
is
closer
to
this
and
can
better
speak
to
what
that
would
do
to
the
overall
project.
A
P
B
Great.
Thank
you
all
right,
councilmember
perales.
O
Yeah,
thank
you.
I
think
it's.
It
is
going
to
be
challenging
and
probably
a
lengthy
meeting
regardless,
and
I
actually
because
I
was
present
for
the
last
pla
discussion.
I
I
actually
am
confident
it
is
going
to
be
a
lengthier
discussion,
I'm
comfortable
with
that,
and
I
think
there
may
be
again.
I've
been
part
of
that
discussion.
I
kind
of
know
where
I
landed
last
time
and
you
know
so.
O
I
know
we're
all
into
this
time,
but
there
are
others
that
may
not,
and
so
the
conversation
may
go
on,
but
I
would
be
comfortable
trying
to
to
take
up
that
item
and
land
that
plane
as
quickly
as
possible
and
just
make
it
an
up
or
down
vote
depending
on
where
people
stand,
but
I'm
I'm
not
super
confident
it'll
be
quick
that'll
be
up
to.
I
think
everybody
on
the
days.
O
I
I'm
comfortable,
though,
with
keeping
that
in
and
it
looks
like
we
want
to
keep
in,
and
I
would
be
interested
too
on
the
rest
of
the
land
used
issues.
The
the
one
I
was
slightly
concerned
about
was
the
commission
conversation.
The
charter
revision
commission,
councilman
cohen,
asked
my
question
in
regards
to
I
guess,
timing
of
that.
O
My
concern
was,
you
know
it
sounds
like
we
could
still
squeeze
it
all
in
in
time,
but
I
think
it
doesn't
allow
much
opportunity,
for
you
know
more
more
discussion
or
time
to
digest
what
the
interests
and
concerns
may
be.
So
I
just
wanted
to
hear
from
staff
again
sort
of
what
what
is
that
timing,
and
maybe
what
would
the
pressure
be
right
if
we
we
didn't
hear
that
item,
what
what
is
the
recommended
deferral
going
to
be
to.
N
R
A
B
If
we
make
a
decision
on
january
11
for
the
charter
review
commission
recommendations-
and
we
want
to
put
something
on
the
june
ballot,
when
would
that
have
to
be.
I
Okay,
finalized.
Yes,
I'm
I'm
sorry
mark
mark's,
not
on,
I
think,
mark's,
probably
asleep,
but
he's
had
some
really
long
nights.
The
I
believe
it's
it's
a
date
in
may
in
march.
I
don't
know
the
exact
date
that
we
would
have
to
get
have
a
vote
and
get
something
approved
for
the
june
ballot.
F
It's
marching
first,
okay,
you
back
up
from
the
election
day
90
days,
so
the
the
council
would
need
to
vote
to
place
something
on
the
ballot
by
march.
First.
I
O
I
And
that
that
may
very
well
be
the
case,
and
if
it,
if
it
can
go
on
a
june
ballot,
then
there
would
have
to
be
that
decision
that
vote
by
the
council
to
put
it
on
a
june
ballot,
would
have
to
occur.
Lee's
saying
march
first,
but
I
know
it's
early
march.
O
Okay,
that's
fine!
I
think
that
does
give
us
enough
time,
then.
So,
I'm
comfortable
with
that.
I
don't
think
we
had
a
change
in
the
motion.
Yet
did
we
to
reflect
the
3.7
item
being
heard.
O
H
B
B
All
right,
so
we
have
a
substitute
motion,
no
more
comments.
So
can
we
get
a
roll
call
vote?
Please
davis,
nope.
O
A
B
J
Yes,
paul
settle
from
the
horseshoe
to
think
that
blair
doesn't
get
paid
or
I
don't
know-
maybe
he
does
I
I
don't
know,
but
this
dude
puts
in
a
lot
of
work
when
you
read
what
he
wrote
with
respect
to
the
data
collections,
that's
already
been
happening
a
couple
of
years
ago
we
had
that
sting
rate
that
was
installed
by
the
deputies.
J
It's
installed
downtown.
It
just
picks
up
it,
mimics
the
the
the
cell
phone
signals
and
then
it
just
extracts
all
the
information
from
your
phone
and
then
you
get
people
like
rob,
lloyd
sitting
there
laughing
and
joking
yeah
yeah
yeah,
dated
day
to
day
they
did
it.
We
got
all
this
data
yeah
I
mean
this
is
it's
becoming
like
vulgar
and
sickening,
because
you
are
creating
like
these
models
on
how
to
message
and
what
that
means
is.
Basically
it's
a
mass
psychology.
J
It's
it's
it's
playing
with
people's
minds
because
you've
extracted
information
about
their
lives
and
then
you
think
that
you
could
quantify
how
to
direct
messages
in
people.
Remember
I've
been
locked
up.
I
don't
I'm
not
connected
to
that
kind
of
psychology
out
here
and
you
can't
quantify
what
has
happened
to
natives
and
mexicans.
J
How
are
you,
how
are
you
going
to
quantify
what
it
means
to
be
generated
generally
generationally
impacted
by
economics,
by
economics,
by
politics
and
by
having
having
a
certain
social
station
within
the
community?
How
do
you
quantify
that?
Why
don't
you
guys
get
into
your
computers
and
try
to
quantify
that?
You
can't
why?
J
Because
it
requires
a
human
being,
because
it's
about
human
experience,
that's
something
that
you
can't
put
into
a
computer
data
point
and
and
type
it
in
and
get
it
out,
but
these
these,
these
mass
surveillances
that
is
going
on,
especially
with
that
wayfarer
technology
come
on
man.
We
need
more
information.
K
Hi,
thank
you.
I've
been
writing
letters
to
yourselves
for
months
now
about
the
future
of.
Does
the
city
charter
commission
have
to
work
on
a
legal
language
through
january
and
early
spring
2022?
Is
that
an
item
that
can
be
handled
by
the
city's
attorneys
for
illegal
language
for
the
june
ballot?
Good
luck
in
how
to
work
on
these
issues
and
thank
you
for
bringing
it
up
today.
K
My
letter
was
about
the
I
simply
wanted
to
report
on
the
recent
crime
issues
and
and
the
fact
that
we
have
already
a
ton
of
new
4
and
5g
and
smart
led
light
technology
that
it
has
an
incredible
amount
of
surveillance,
capabilities
and
data
collection
capabilities,
and
we
have
to
learn
to
talk
about
that
openly.
That
has
to
be
open,
subject
matter
and
we
have
to
talk
about.
K
You
know
how
the
future
of
aopr
camera
use
is
more
slated
for
the
future
of
vision,
zero
projects
and
and
how
all
this
will
be
connecting.
Meanwhile,
we're
not
having
all
that
good
luck
with
good
accountability
practices
with
vision,
zero
and
the
ksi
statistics
issues
that
we're
just
starting
to
better
address
that
we
need
to
be
clear
what
exactly
we're
doing
with
ourselves.
I
don't
think
we
can
just
dump
in
a
whole
bunch
of
new
alpr
stuff
and
say
here's
the
miracle.
You
know
it
takes.
You
know
direct
police
work
to
to
address.
K
You
know
these
organized
crime
units,
it's
not
all
in
the
surveillance,
and
we
have
to
be
real,
clear
and
accountable
about
ourselves.
What
we're
doing?
That's
all
I'm
asking
and
and
just
that,
we're
clear
about
and
and
really
respect
that
we're
trying
to
build
a
future
of
reimagine
and
equity
at
this
time
and
take
it
seriously,
and
we
can
do
this
stuff
and
good
luck,
how
we
do
it,
it's
our
human
heart,
it's
our
good
selves
to
what
we
do.
It's,
not
the
technology.
Thank
you.
M
Brian,
I
have
to
reiterate
that
they
they're
right
blair
puts
in
a
lot
of
work
as
to
a
lot
of
the
other
people
on
those
notes
that
he's
right,
they're,
very,
not
known
so
letters
he
writes,
they're,
very
informative
and
and
he's
right
about
people.
Technology
can
help
us.
M
Technology
can
save
lives
technology,
but
it
isn't
our
soul,
we're
our
soul
and
if
we
lose
track
of
that
everything
else,
we're
doing
is
absolutely
moot,
and
we
almost
did
that
the
last
four
years
with
what's
his
name,
no
offense
to
people
who
voted
for
him,
but
we
almost
lost
our
soul.
You
know,
as
a
country
and
not
scary,
just
a
side
note
I
was
yesterday
was
december:
7th
half
the
people
locked
up,
don't
even
know
about
that.
M
Those
people
that
stopped
the
empire
from
getting
into
the
states
saved
this
entire
planet
just
like
they
did
in
d-day,
and
we
have
forgotten
that
it's
only
80
years
ago,
and
we
should
shudder
that
if
we
ever
forget
that
lesson-
which
I
think
we
are
now,
I
know
that
this,
the
you,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
don't
have
a
lot
of
control
over
that
we're.
Not
supposed
to
talk
too
far
outside,
but
each
little
thing
where
humanity
is
built
back
into
whatever
technology
that
it's
people
first,
because
if
it's
not
everything
else
is
fairly
irrelevant.
Thank.
B
You
thank
you,
brian
and
thank
you
for
bringing
it
back
to
the
topic,
all
right,
bringing
it
back
to
the
committee
councilmember
brawls.
I
see
you
have
your
hand
up.
O
E
K
Hi
blair
beekman
here,
thank
you
for
the
dumpster
days
that
you
have
listed
here
as
many
dumpster
days.
It
just
reminded
me
just
I
I
haven't
been
speaking
when
I
see
them
at
these
agenda
items,
but
they,
I
think
they
do,
can
do
a
tremendous
service
to
all
parts
of
a
local
neighborhood.
It
can
invite
all
parts
of
the
neighborhood.
K
I
also
wanted
to
I
I
hope
my
previous
comments,
I
mean
I,
I
meant
it
in
neutral
terms,
just
for
all
sides
to
take
part
in
how
we
consider
illegal
language
questions
of
the
charter.
That
needs
to
be
addressed
in
the
next
few
months.
How
we
can
go
about
that
good
luck,
you
know,
and
how
we
can
do
that.
I
hope
my
own
words
can
simply
offer
a
bit
of
clarity
how
to
work
on
the
issue,
and
I
I
have
a
bit
of
concern
about
the
city.
K
Attorney's
words
about
the
how
the
consent
calendar
can
work.
I
think
it's
a
bit
more
nuanced
than
what
she
described.
It
can
be
a
place
of
open
discussion,
time
for
council
persons
and
for
public
to
ask
council
persons
if,
if
matters
can
be
discussed,
I
think
that
has
to
be
taken
to
account
a
bit
more.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you
paul.
J
Yeah
paul
said
from
the
horseshoe
nora
was
wrong.
Just
it's.
She
was
wrong
and
she's
going
to
put
the
person
that
makes
500
bucks
a
month.
I
live
on
500
a
month
and
I
eat
at
food
banks
and
she
I'm
going
to
be
forced
to
a
position.
Do
I
have
to
file
in
court
just
to
assert
my
constitutional
right
as
a
chicano
in
this
community?
But
that's
that's
that's
neither
here
nor
there,
but
that's
what
the
city
is
going
to
be
doing
with
a
person
like
me
putting
us
in
court
the
consent
calendar.
J
I
can't
believe
I've
been
doing
this
for
like
the
past
few
days,
but
I've
been
in
agreement
with
councilwoman
davis.
Now
I
really
want
to
thank
her
personally
for
for
for
thinking
about
the
people
at
evans
lane.
Okay,
I
was
a
resident
there.
I've
lived
there
before
so
I
know
what
the
people
go
through
there.
You
know,
and-
and
this
is
this
is
a
program
that
is
specifically
designed
to
help
people
that
have
mental
health
conditions.
J
That
have
I
mean
I'm
I'm
talking
about
abuse.
I'm
talking
about
rape,
both
men
and
women,
severe
child
abuse.
I
mean
just
when
you
hear
the
stories
of
the
people
that
live
there
and
you're.
Just
like
this
person
is
like
a
miracle
of
survival.
I
mean
people
think
that
they
got
it
hard
on
the
street.
People
think,
oh
man.
Well,
I
got
you
know.
I
got
pay
this
bill,
man,
you
don't
know
what
hard
is
really
go.
Have
a
conversation
with
some
sit,
someone
down
over
that
evans
lane
and
talk
to
them.
J
You
know,
ask
them
questions
about
their
life
and
they
will.
If
they
will
teach
you
something
about
survival,
they
will
teach
you
something
about.
Resiliency
and
they'll
teach
you
something
about
humanity,
because,
despite
the
fact
that
people
experience
a
host
of
challenges
when,
when
trying
to
interact
with
a
world
that
has
rejected
them,
these
people
still
get
up
in
the
morning.
They
still
show
up,
they
still
do
what
it
is,
they
have
to
do
and
you
you
will
be
surprised
on
how
much
kindness,
generosity
and
compassion
you
receive.
L
Hi,
thank
you.
Blair
beekman
brought
up
the
dumpster
days
and
I
know
it's
on
the
count.
The
agenda.
I
just
wanted
to
give
a
quick
shout
out
for
the
mobile
home
park
I
live
in.
I
live
in
district
10
in
imperial
estates.
I
moved
in
here
eight
almost
nine
years
ago
and
every
single
year,
our
the
the
actual
owner
of
the
park
every
single
year,
brings
in
a
dumpster
and
allows
anybody
in
the
park
to
dump
what
they
need
to
for
one
day.
You
know
at
no
cost
it's
a
courtesy.
L
It
does
such
a
service
for
everyone
here,
in
addition
to
keeping
the
city
clean
in,
in
addition
to
keeping
our
park
clean,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
honestly
give
a
shout
out
because
our
the
park
owner
has
been
doing
this
every
single
year
and
it's
on
their
dime
is
my
understanding,
which
is
a
really
nice
thing
that
the
owner
has
done,
and
so
I
think
that
in
the
future,
if
any
other
private
you
know
places
can
take
that
on
and
take
that
tax
burden
away
from
the
city.
L
F
E
B
Hi.
Thank
you.
Okay,
we're
going
to
make
a
change
to
the
order
of
the
agenda,
because
the
public
records
appeal.
F
Thank
you
vice
mayor
and,
as
you
recall,
rules
committee
directed
us
to
come
back
from
last
week
after
a
discussion
with
an
update
and
just
wanted
to
say
that
is
exactly
what
we
intend
to
do
is
going
to
update
on
the
progress.
The
police
department
has
been
able
to
make
good
and
bad,
but
we
do
intend
to
continue
to
work
with
the
applicant
and
are
not
asking
the
rules
committee
today
for
any
decision,
as
we
do
think,
it'll
require
additional
time.
R
Update
you
and
lieutenant
donoghue
did
you
want
me
to
go
ahead
and
jump
off
now?
I
know
you
and
I
kind
of
discussed
you
starting
out
I'm
happy
to
begin
with
the
update.
R
Very
good
all
right,
thank
you.
I'll
remain
unmuted
good
afternoon
for
those
of
you
that
don't
know
me,
I'm
deputy
chief
el
washburn
with
the
san
jose
police
department,
and
I
oversee
the
bureau
of
investigations
here
at
the
san
jose
police
department
to
include
the
family
violence
unit.
One
of
my
many
responsibilities
is
oversight
of
the
bureau,
as
well
as
to
ensure
that
we
are
delivering
a
high
degree
of
customer
service.
It's
extremely
important.
R
R
I
do
want
to
say
before
I
go
further,
that
I
do
recognize.
This
is
a
public
forum.
I
want
to
provide
as
thorough
a
summary
as
possible
on
this
review
and
will
subsequently
do
my
best
to
answer
any
follow-up
questions,
while
also
protecting
the
privacy
of
the
involved
persons.
I
want
to
acknowledge
the
importance
of
this
fine
balance
to
assist
in
your
decision
making.
My
goal
today
is
to
determine
whether
the
criminal
elements
of
penal
code
273.6
violation
of
a
domestic
violence
restraining
order
have
been
met.
R
In
order
to
do
so,
we
have
worked
to
answer
two
primary
questions.
Number
one:
was
there
a
valid
restraining
order
on
file
at
the
time
of
the
alleged
questionable
purchases
that
I
from
gun,
shops
or
establishments
that
supply
sporting
goods
equipment,
as
well
as
some
gun
parts,
and
things
of
that
nature
that
I
believe
was
discussed
in
the
last
rules
committee.
R
R
What
I
can
tell
you
is
that,
at
the
time
of
the
report,
both
a
patrol
officer
who
was
assigned
to
the
main
lobby
and
the
assigned
detective
in
the
family
violence
unit
independently
queried
the
database
according
to
standard
operating
procedures
and
determined
that
the
restraining
order
on
file
was
issued
after
the
alleged
purchases,
thus
indicating
no
apparent
violation
of
the
restraining
order
on
file
upon
reviewing
the
case
and
the
restraining
order
in
present
time,
meaning
in
the
last
week.
The
database
does
now
reflect
the
fact
that
a
restraining
order
did
exist
during
that
time
period.
R
Is
there
a
violation
of
the
order's
conditions,
the
restraining
order
states
that
the
restrained
person
cannot
own,
have
possess,
buy
or
try
to
buy,
receive
or
try
to
receive,
or
otherwise
get
guns,
other
firearms
and
or
ammunition,
while
the
order
is
in
effect,
we
have
review.
Excuse
me,
we
have
reviewed
the
available
evidence,
we
have
consulted
the
district
attorney's
office
for
guidance
and
we
have
coordinated
with
the
complainant
and,
as
of
today,
we
have
not
been
able
to
establish
the
elements
of
a
crime.
R
R
We
are
discussing
options
to
ensure
how
we
may
prove
the
validity
of
a
restraining
order
in
the
future,
so
this
doesn't
happen
again
and
thirdly,
we
will
address
these
new
measures
department-wide
by
means
of
a
training
bulletin.
With
that,
I
will
answer
any
questions
that
you
have.
I
also
have
the
in
addition
to
lieutenant
donahue
with
research
and
development.
I
have
the
family
violence
unit.
Lieutenant
commander
rob
lang
with
me
here
today
as
a
subject
matter
expert
to
assist
with
any
technical
and
or
specific
questions
about
operating
procedures.
B
Thank
you.
Do
we
have
any
other.
A
Yes,
chair,
I
have
a
little
bit
to
talk
about
before
we
go.
That's
all
right!
Thank
you,
sir.
So
one
of
the
things
the
council
brought
to
us
and
asked
us
to
do
is
to
reconnect
the
survivor,
in
this
case
with
the
independent
police
auditor's
office,
to
take
a
look
at
the
conduct
of
the
officer
from
the
body-worn
camera.
Since
we
can't
provide
the
survivor
a
copy
of
that
footage,
we
had
the
ipa's
office
review
it
again.
So
this
is
the
second
look
they've
had
at
the
footage.
A
They
reviewed
it
the
first
time
under
first
review
with
ia
and
then
a
second
time
last
week,
and
they
reached
out
to
the
survivor
to
talk
to
her
about.
It
is
my
understanding,
I'm
not
sure
if
that's
happened
yet
I
haven't
had
a
chance
to
talk
to
her
since
last
week,
but
I
know
that
the
ipa
was
planning
to,
but
I
also
know
that
they
did
review
the
footage
and
they
discovered
that
there
was
no
misconduct
on
a
part
of
the
officer
from
the
body.
Ward.
A
Camper
footage,
beyond
that,
where
we
are
now
as
deputy
chief
washburn
spoke
to,
is
we're
kind
of
at
this.
This
crux:
where
the
committee
has
this
decision
to
make:
do
we
do
we
make
a
decision
on
the
appeal
to
release
or
not
release
the
bodywork
camera
footage,
or
do
we
pause
that
decision
until
a
final
determination
can
be
made
on
the
ability
to
establish
those
criminal
elements
that
the
deputy
chief
was
talking
about
and
ultimately,
what
we're
asking
the
committee
to
do
right
now
is
to
just
give
us
a
chance
to
finish.
A
Looking
at
the
case,
let
us
can
finish
the
thorough
investigation
that
the
bureau
of
investigations
is
doing
right
now
and
see
if
we
can
establish
those
elements
and
if
we
can
then
it'll
be
a
moot
point
and
we'll
be
releasing
the
video
footage
because
she
would
be
the
victim
of
a
crime
if
we
can't
we'll
report
that
to
committee
and
why
and
have
that
hard
conversation
at
that
time?.
B
L
Q
Yes,
I
wasn't
a
panelist
yet
so
thank
you
for
bearing
with
me
I
can
now
speak.
I
wanted
to
address
a
few
things
specifically.
You
know
I
wanted
to
state
that
it
was
really
great
to
hear
what-
and
I
pardon
me
if
I
get
your
title
wrong,
but
miss
washburn.
Q
I
don't
recall,
I'm
the
chief
of
exactly
what
I
really
appreciate
that
they're
going
to
use
this
to
help
survivors
and
as
a
case
study.
I
do
want
to
point
out
when
I
spoke
to
the
ipa
they
had
told
me
the
same
things
that
they
had
already
spoke
to
me
about
lieutenant
donahue
said
that
they
reviewed
it.
When
I
spoke
to
the
person
at
ia,
which
I
could
get
their
name
later
on,
they
had
actually
said
they're
not
allowed
to
review
the
footage,
so
I
don't
think
it's
been
reviewed
twice.
Q
We
should
be
relying
on
facts
and
at
the
last
meeting
I
realized
you
know
that
many
things
were
still
being
misrepresented
and
especially
in
regards
to
the
tro,
which
we
finally
have
established
a
year
and
a
half
later
that
I
did
have
one,
but
there
were
also
other
falsehoods
and
just
it
felt
like
dismissiveness
and
gaslighting
being
a
survivor
when,
when
I
hear
these
things
being
told
as
they
are
facts
and
you
guys
are
hearing
them
presented
as
facts,
and
yet
it
is
not
factual
to
the
case.
Q
I
spoke
to
miss
washburn
today,
disclosing
that-
and
you
know,
my
thoughts
are
a
little
bit
disorganized
at
this
moment,
because
it
is
very
traumatizing
when
I
have
this
happen
to
me.
So
maybe
it
would
be
best
if
amanda
goes
first
and
I
could
collect
myself
to
address
some
of
the
the
things
that
I
wanted
to.
B
Nope
no
worries
we're
going
to
go
to
amanda
and
then
we'll
come
back
to
you,
catherine
amanda.
L
Sure
I
I
had
a
couple
thoughts
and
I've
spoken
with
katherine
about
this.
Is
you
know
when
she
received
a
letter
denying
her
public
records
act
request
to
have
the
body
camera
footage?
She
was
supplied
with
a
letter
saying
that
you
would
be
entitled
to
that
body.
Camera
footage
if
you
were
the
victim
of
a
crime
as
defined
in
subdivision
b
of
section
13951,
which
we
looked
up
and
it
says
that
crime
means
a
crime
or
a
public
offense
wherever
it
may
take
place.
L
That
would
constitute
a
misdemeanor
or
felony
if
the
crime
has
been
committed
in
california
by
a
competent
adult,
regardless
of
whether
the
suspect
is
arrested
for
or
charged
with
the
commission
of
the
crime.
So
I
guess
my
question
would
be
considering
that
second
part
of
regardless
of
whether
the
suspect
is
arrested
or
charged,
considering
the
crime
is
the
restraining
order,
violation
and
the
investigation
is
still
pending.
She
is
still
categorized,
as
I
see
by
this
definition
as
the
victim
of
a
crime,
and
I
don't
see
why
she
can't
get
access
to
that
body.
Camera
footage.
L
L
Like
catherine
pointed
out,
you
know,
I'm
I'm
curious
to
hear
if
the
body
camera
footage
was
actually
reviewed,
I'm
also,
you
know
in
katherine's
account
which
I
hundred
percent
believe
I
was
incredibly
concerned
as
a
domestic
violence
advocate
with
the
way
she
was
treated.
It
was
not
trauma
informed.
It
was
not
appropriate.
L
She
was
treated
like
a
criminal
when
she
was
trying
to
access
safety
from
sjpd,
which
is
extremely
concerning
for
me,
as
a
domestic
violence
advocate
when
we're
looking
at
survivors,
calling
the
police
to
try
to
access
their
safety
and
protections
that
they're
entitled
to
it's
discouraging
for
survivors
to
want
to
go
back
and
report
to
police
to
access
their
safety,
and
it
puts
survivors
in
extreme
danger.
So
I
am
disappointed
to
hear
that
it
was
found
upon
second
review
that
the
courtesy
was
not
violated
and
I'd
like
to
hear
more
about
why
that
is.
L
B
Thank
you,
amanda
we're
going
to
go
to
siobhan
who
has
heran
raised
siobhan.
Did
you
want
to
weigh
in.
I
Oh,
I
just
want
to
provide
some
facts.
Our
office
did
do
when
the
complaint
initially
came
in.
We
reviewed
the
body,
one
camera
and
we
agreed
with
the
the
findings
made
by
internal
affairs.
There
was
two:
there
were
two
allegations
in
the
initial
complaint.
I
B
Thank
you,
catherine,
do
you
feel
comfortable
speaking
now
or
do
you
want
to.
Q
Yes,
thank
you
for
letting
me
collect
my
thoughts
because
it
was
a
shock
to
hear
what
lieutenant
donahue
said,
because
it
was
not
what
I
was
told
when
I
spoke
to
someone.
So
I
got
kind
of
flustered
and
I
I've
been
able
to
collect
myself.
One
of
the
things
that
was
just
touched
upon
is
you
know
the
criteria
for
what
misconduct
is
in
this
case
with
courtesy-
and
I
think
you
know
my
advocate-
put
it
use.
You
know
basically
what
I
said
in
all
my
complaints
is.
Q
I
was
treated
worse
than
a
criminal
seeking
help
and
safety,
so
the
courtesy
piece
still
the
what
they
are
saying
in
their
wording,
is
that
I
would
have
had
to
have
had
profanity
violence
or
screaming
against
me
from
my
understanding
for
this
officer
to
treat
me
poorly
and
be
uncourteous.
Q
And
so
I
disagree
with
that
interpretation,
and
I
just
I
still
have
not
really
seen
how
that
is
accurate,
because
I've
heard
other
things
from
other
officers
and
detectives
stating
that
it
could
be
so
much
as
a
shrug
or
eye
rolling
like
when
I
spoke
to
lieutenant
donohue.
He
had
stated
it
could
be
something
subtle
that
someone
does,
that
can
be
discourteous.
B
Thank
you
we're
going
to
go
to
the
committee
councilmember
arenas.
N
Chair,
I
believe
siobhan
still
has
her
hand
up.
I
wonder
if.
B
Oh,
I
didn't
see
it
go
down
from
the
first
time.
Siobhan
did
you
wanna.
I
And
this
was
sent
to
mrs
reichenbach
yesterday,
so
courtesy
as
defined
is
department,
members
will
be
courteous
and
professional
to
the
public
department.
Members
will
be
tactful
and
the
performance
of
their
duties
control
their
tempers
and
exercise
the
utmost
patience
and
discretion,
even
in
the
face
of
extreme
provocation.
I
B
Thank
you,
councilmember
arenas.
N
Thank
you.
I
I
appreciate
everybody
coming
back
together
once
again
this
week.
I
know
that
this,
our
police
department
has
done
quite
a
bit
of
work,
to
figure
out
what
to
bring
more
facts
to
the
forefront.
So
I
really
appreciate
that
movement
and
I
really
would
like
to
see
a
conclusion
to
this.
N
It
is
very
frustrating
to
continue
to
hear
a
survivor,
speak
up
for
herself
and
repeat
herself,
and
probably
she's
been
doing
this
for
well
over
a
year
a
year
and
a
half
at
least
since
my
my
office
made
a
first
contact
with
with
esther
from
from
next
door,
who
had
asked
us
to
facilitate
contact
with
with
the
police
department
and
in
which
they
did,
and
this
is
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
had
an
officer
go
out
and
actually
take
that
report.
N
That
catherine
spoke
about
last
week,
and
so
you
know
the
system
corrects
itself
when
when
humans,
because
the
system
is
only
as
strong
as
the
humans
that
are
in
there
right
and
we
as
humans
will
always
have
an
oversight.
N
We'll
always
have
something
and
nobody's
perfect,
and
I
completely
understand
that
and-
and
so
I
appreciate
chief
washburn-
that
you're
taking
this
as
an
opportunity
for
us
to
learn
and
and
to
really
push
our
our
police
department
in
terms
of
what
what
could
we
have
done
differently
for
in
in
real
life
right
in
in
real
time,
because
fortunately,
this
has
not
created
a
greater
threat.
You
know,
catherine
is
safe.
She
wasn't
hurt,
but
that
might
not
have
been
what
ended
up
in
this
situation.
N
If
those
guns
were
made
available
to
that
person
and
that
person
was
in
the
same,
things
could
have
gone
very
very
differently,
and
we
would
have
never
known
this.
This
misstep
in
this
miscommunication,
and
so
I
want
to
thank
catherine
for
for
continuing
her
advocacy
and
your
willingness
chief
in
in
in
creating
this
as
a
learning
opportunity.
N
But
we
have
to
make
sure
that
our
discouraging
to
see
that
what
we
do
in
practice
might
be
somewhat
different
for
our
survivors,
because
I
know
that
we've
been
working
really
hard
to
change
the
systems
and
to
make
sure
that
experiences
are
different
for
survivors
of
sexual
assault,
as
well
as
intimate
partner
violence.
N
And
so
I
I
want
to
go
along
with
you,
chief
in
that
learning,
and
to
figure
out
how
policy
can
better
support
and
make
this
a
a
real
learning
opportunity
for
all
of
us-
and
I
don't
mean
you
know,
have
catherine,
you
know
this
is
not
on
your
back
catherine.
This
is
you.
You
will
create
change
within
the
system
in
your
advocacy,
and
I
want
you
to
know
that
this
will
not
end
here.
Whether
you
know
the
world,
the
rules
committee
approves
or
doesn't
approve
is
one
thing
but
separate
from
that.
N
There's
going
to
be
an
improvement
in
the
system
because
all
of
these
people
who
you
see
on
on
screen,
I
know
that
they're
invested
in
making
this
better,
not
only
for
you,
but
all
the
the
women
and
men
who
who
you
represent.
So
I
I
do
want
to
make
a
motion
to
to
to
delay
this
another
week,
because
I
I
believe
lee
this
is
a
week
is
what
you
said.
N
If
that's
appropriate
a
week,
I
don't
know
if,
if
you
need
more
time
than
that,
but
on
the,
if
you
need
more
time,
I
I
think
I'd
like
to
hear
on
a
weekly
basis,
the
update.
F
Yeah
and
I
know
you
and
I
were
able
to
chat
before
and
now
I'm
looking
at
the
calendar,
we
actually
don't
have
rules
next
week,
correct
nora.
F
So
our
first
meeting
our
first
rules
committee
meeting-
it's
actually
scheduled
for
january
5th
at
this
point,
so
that
would
give
us
a
few
weeks
and
I
think,
to
deputy
chief
washburn's
point
now
that
we
understand
the
restraining
order
is
in
place
now
it's
going
through
trying
not
to
say
too
much
but
the
the
process
of
establishing
the
crime
which
could
take
more
than
a
week.
I
think,
given
the
interstate
issues
that
are
at
play
here,
so
we
can
definitely
agendize
this
for
january
5th
for
an
update.
N
Great,
I
think
that's
the
only
other
solution
and
catherine
hope
that
that
could
work
for
you.
We
can
check
in
with
you
later
to
see
if,
if
that
date
works,
unfortunately,
because
of
the
holidays,
we
will
not
have
rules
committee,
and
so
that's
the
the
next
best
date
that
we
can
offer,
and
we
can
take
that
offline.
N
Just
you
know.
Lastly,
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
our
advocates
and
those
folks
who
continue
to
work
with
our
survivors.
I
know
esther
is
also
on
the
line
amanda
you
and
between
you
and
catherine,
have
articulated
some
of
the
nuances
in
in
this
case,
in
the
way
that
has
allowed
all
of
us
to
appreciate
and
understand
what
has
happened,
and
you
know
on
on
on
behalf
of
our
our
city
of
san
jose.
N
If
I
can
actually
take
that
upon
myself
to
do
is
is
to
apologize
to
you,
catherine,
for
the
way
that
you
were
treated.
You
know
I'm
not
making
that
determination
of
of
whether
somebody
was
courteous
or
not,
because
I
know
that
there's
a
legal
process
for
that,
but
there's
a
lot
of
body
and
physical
communication
that
goes
along
with
how
we
connect
with
one
one
another.
N
You
know
we
we
on
a
on
a
weekly
basis
at
our
council
meetings,
are
probably
not
courteous
to
one
another
without
using
foul
language,
and
it
doesn't
mean
that
there
wasn't
a
a
violation
of
courtesy
right,
and
so
I
I
want
to
make
sure
that
you,
you
know
that
we
heard
that
we
heard
that
that
you
were
not
treated
in
a
way
that
you
felt
you
would
have
an
opportunity
to
be
protected
and-
and
for
me
that's
that's
a
true
concern,
a
true
concern,
because
that
only
allows
our
are
the
perpetrators
of
violence
to
continue
to
do
what
they're
doing,
and
it
lessens
the
opportunities
for
our
survivors
to
report,
and
so
I
really
want
to
take
this
conversation
offline
so
that
we
as
a
system
can
improve
this
experience,
because
this
is
this
is
not
an
off.
N
You
know.
This
is
not
just
off
one
example.
This
is,
this
is
probably
something
that
happens
and
we
just
don't
catch
it,
and
so
now
that
we
have
we,
we
have
to
make
sure
that
we
we
do
our
best,
and
so
just
thank
you,
everyone
for
your
patience
and
and
thank
you
amanda
and
esther
and
and
catherine.
First
of
all,
I
don't
know
how
you
do
it
with
those
babies,
but
you
focus
and
articulate
so
well.
B
B
O
I
actually
I
just
noticed
that
we
we
did
have
esther
as
a
public
commenter
and
we
had
two
others
up.
If
you
don't
mind
I'll
defer,
if
you
want
to
go
to
them
and
then
if
I
can
pick
it
back
up
after.
B
O
B
O
I'm
actually
good
with
that
too,
but
if
catherine
does
have,
I
have
short
comments,
so
if
catherine
does
have
to
leave,
I'm
happy
to
make
that
first
type.
O
Okay,
so
I
think
first
up
deputy
chief
washburn,
I
think
you
said
it
and
I
think
it's
just
unfortunate
right
that
now
on
this,
this,
not
necessarily
even
a
second
look,
but
maybe
third
look.
O
We
are
determining
that
there
was
the
the
oversight
and
somehow
right,
we
missed
that
that
there
was
actually
a
valid
restraining
order,
and
you
know
we
we
don't
want
to
have
victims,
go
through
this
length
to
try
and
get
to
that
understanding,
even
if
we
don't
end
up
having
the
elements
of
a
crime
here
in
this
case,
which
will
be
a
different,
I
think,
concern
or
challenge
for
the
survivor,
but
just
the
fact
that
we
we
have
missed
something.
O
I
think
I
look
forward
to
hearing
back
from
from
you
on
the
department
in
regards
to
lessons
learned
on
that
and
how
we
ensure
that
that
does
not
happen
again.
In
regards
to,
I
think,
what
we're
going
to
defer
our
comments
here
or
our
decision
until
january,
but
if
between
now
and
then
it
is
determined
that
there
were
enough
elements
for
a
crime
and
then
the
survivor
can
actually
see
the
video.
O
We
don't
have
to
wait
till
the
11th
for
her
to
see
the
video,
then
at
that
case
you
guys
can
reach
out
to
her
and
then
maybe
just
give
the
rules
committee
a
heads
up
right
that
hey
look
that
was
determined
and
then
we
are
going
to
go
release
the
video
to
her
as
soon
as
possible.
That
is
correct.
Right.
R
O
Okay
and-
and
I
understand
that
that
may
take
a
little
bit
of
time
to
get
to-
and
so
maybe
we'll
be
back
here
in
january
anyways
before
that
that
decision
is
is
made.
I
I
to
make
sure
I
understand
it
correctly.
O
What
amanda
was
saying
in
regards
to
the
the
video
sort
of
the
language
around
the
release
of
it,
not
necessarily
requiring
right
charges
or
a
conviction
there
that
that
is
what
this
rules
committee
has
an
opportunity
to
make
a
decision
on
in
regards
to
we
could
we
could
release
the
video,
but
the
unfortunate
circumstance
would
be
we
would
be
releasing
it
so
then
the
general
public
can
see
it,
and
so
I
think
in
in
the
spirit
of
that
we've
already
decided
that
that
we
we
don't
want
to
do
that,
because
the
survivor
is
asking
us
not
to
to
release
it
to
everybody,
so
we
could,
but
we've
come
to
that
agreement.
O
At
least
here
that
we're
not
gonna
go
that
route
right
now
and-
and
then
I
think.
Lastly,
in
regards
to
the
the
concern
and
the
complaint
it
looks
like
siobhan,
can
you
just
clarify?
Did
you
or
your
office
actually
review
the
body-worn
camera
because
it
sounds
like
catherine
was
saying
that
she
was
told
by
somebody
in
your
office
that
they,
they
did
not
see
the
video.
I
I
believe
aaron
o'neill-
this
is
an
ipa
is
in
the
group.
Yes,
she
was
the
one
who
did
the
review
so
I'll.
Have
her
give
that
answer?
Oh
sure,.
H
Yes,
we
we
review
all
body
worn
camera
when
we
do
an
audit
of
an
internal
affairs
investigation.
This
was
my
case
that
I
reviewed.
L
And
presented
to
our
staff,
so
I
reviewed
it
when
I
first
initially
audited
the
investigation
and
then
I
re-reviewed
the
bodyboard
camera
before
speaking
with
his
breaking
bot.
O
Okay,
maybe
if
just
somebody
from
your
office
can
touch
base
with
her
and
clarify
why
there
was
miscommunication,
because
it
sounds
like
she
understood
that
that
somebody
told
her
that
they,
you
guys,
cannot
or
you
did
not
review
the
body.
One
camera
footage.
So
I
just
think
that
that
you
know
I
thank
you
for
the
clarification
here
and
I
understand
it
may
not
be
the
decision
and,
and
catherine
may
not
feel
as
though
she
agrees
with
your
assessment
as
well
as
as
internal
affairs.
O
We
haven't
seen
that
we're
not
here
to
make
that
judgment
as
councilman
estates.
I
do
know,
though,
myself
from
having
been
an
officer
and
having
complaints
go
through
both
the
the
ia
in
in
in
the
ipa
that
there
was
an
opportunity
for
officers
to
meet
through
mediation
with
the
complainant
and
in
certain
cases
that
helped
to
kind
of
have
a
better
understanding
from
from
the
complainant
side
and
any
officers
to
be
able
to
just
have
a
conversation.
O
I
participated
in
that
once
and
it
was
extremely
beneficial
and
the
complainant,
I
think
understood
the
circumstances
differently
and
and
actually
right.
It
was
a
complaint
that
was
that
was
not
sustained,
and
so
you
know.
At
the
same
time,
though,
I
think
that
that
opportunity
to
have
that
conversation
was
very
meaningful.
O
Our
police
officers,
our
public
servants
and-
and
I
think
that
right,
the
the
interactions
that
we
have
with
the
community
is
super
important
and,
as
amanda
stated
in
this
case,
even
more
so
right
for
people
that
we
want
to
feel,
we
want
them
to
feel
comfortable,
engaging
with
police.
I
don't
know
if
that
was
something
that
was
explored
in
this
regard,
but
I
think
I
would
encourage
that
if
it
wasn't
not
only
in
this
case,
but
in
others,
those
are
my
only
comments.
I
appreciate
it
and
thank
you.
L
She
has
gone
through
ipa
and
ia
and
requesting
the
footage
and
appealing
the
footage,
and
now
is
here
a
second
time
you
know,
presenting
to
city
council
presenting
in
front
of
the
public
to
get
what
I
strongly
believe
is
her
right
to
have,
which
is
this
body,
camera
footage
and
last
meeting
it
was
said
that
the
reason
why
she
wasn't
allowed
to
have
the
body
camera
footage
was
she
didn't,
have
an
active
tierro
now
we're
here
establishing
for
everyone.
L
There
was
an
active
tierro
and
now
there's
another
reason
why
she
can't
access
the
body
camera
footage.
So
it
just
feels
like
the
goalpost
keeps
moving
for
her
more
and
more.
She
has
to
come
back
here.
You
know
sacrificing
time
with
her
children
having
the
bravery
and
strength
to
come
present
in
front
of
you
all,
and
I
just
think
this
is
unfair-
to
keep
putting
more
burden
on
her
to
continue
with
this
process
to
access
something
that
should
have
been
given
to
her
already.
B
We
were
already
informed
by
lieutenant
donohue
and
his
team
that
it
was
very
unlikely
that
they
would
be
able
to
arrive
to
any
conclusion
in
a
week,
but
we
want
to
have
at
least
a
check-in
and
an
update
on
what's
going
on,
and
so
that
everybody's
informed,
but
there
is
no
desire
to
kind
of
to
drag
this
out
as
long
as
possible,
as
councilmember
arenas
has
articulated
that
you
know,
we
have
a
desire
to
make
sure
that
catherine's
needs
and
wants
or
are
addressed
and
we're
doing
everything
we
can
to
try
to
come
to
a
conclusion
and
a
resolution
as
quickly
as
possible.
B
So
I
apologize
if,
if
there's
a
perception
that
we're
we're
dragging
this
out
or
stretching
it
out,
we're
just
trying
to
to
come
to
a
conclusion
and
answer
as
quickly
as
possible.
Councilmember
perales,
you
have
your
hand
up.
B
All
right,
so
we
have
the
motion
in
a
second.
I
am
now
going
to
see.
S
Yes,
I'm
sorry
they
was.
They
transitioned
me
to
a
panelist,
and
I
will
keep
this
very
brief.
I
do
want
to
acknowledge
when
this
case
started
a
year
and
a
half
ago
it
was
different
leadership
at
san
jose
pd
nextdoor
solutions
has
tried
to
get
at
mou
for
the
things
that
we
were
doing
together
with
san
jose
pd.
That
was
not
possible
until
the
new
leadership
came
in
we've
had
a
meeting
with
the
chief
of
police
we've
been
in
touch
also
with
the
family
violence
center
lieutenant
lang.
S
We
are
optimistic,
we
have
an
mou
in
place
and
we
have
some
specific
strategies,
including
quarterly
meetings
where
we
can
come
together
and
talk
about
topics
like
this,
because
I
will
share
with
you.
Katherine's
case
is
one
of
many
cases
that
are
coming
through
our
doors.
We
are
the
largest
domestic
violence
service
provider
in
the
county,
and
so
this
is
the
gateway
violence,
crime.
We
have
serious
issues
of
sexual
assault,
human
trafficking,
child
rape,
child
abuse,
but
domestic
violence
is,
in
our
opinion,
the
gateway.
S
It
is
the
one
that
is
going
to
have
deep
and
permanent
impact
on
children.
The
outcome
of
this
case
is
going
to
be
decided
by
the
5th
of
january.
It
is
unacceptable
how
long
it's
taken
for
katherine
to
get
justice.
I
was
with
her
the
day
that
the
police
refused
to
take
her
order.
I
had
to
take
it
up
to
eddie
garcia,
with
help
from
the
city
council
member,
to
get
somebody
to
take
her
order
or
to
take
the
report.
She
had
to
go
down
there
with
amanda
to
mission
street.
S
There
was
not
a
report
at
her
home
if
that
happened,
afterward,
I'm
not
aware
of
it,
but
she
physically
had
to
go
and
file
the
report
and
thanks
to
the
intervention
at
that
point
of
the
captain
and
the
people
that
were
in
place,
they
took
her
her
complaint,
but
it's
as
amanda
said
the.
If
we
keep
moving,
you
know
sort
of
the
burden
of
proof,
that's
going
to
be
a
problem.
S
It's
going
to
be
a
problem
for
the
other
cases
that
we're
going
to
bring
before
you,
because
it
is
not
right
that
these
trends
are
going
unaddressed.
I
spoke
about
this
in
the
reimagine
public
safety
hearing
recently.
This
is
not
a
trend
unique
to
next
door
solutions.
It
is
happening
with
all
five
agencies.
We
really
need
the
voice
of
the
survivor
and
that
experience
taken
seriously
we're
happy
to
help
with
training
we're
happy
to
help
with
advocacy.
S
We
don't
want
to
have
it
escalate
to
this
level,
but
I'm
amazed
at
how
hard
it
was
to
even
get
an
answer
from
the
independent
police
auditor
during
covet
the
police
department,
we
were
given
so
much
run
around.
I
have
a
master's,
I'm
no
dummy,
I'm
the
person
that
was
on
the
phone
trying
to
connect,
and
I
can
tell
you
the
public-
is
not
accessing
justice.
The
ipa
was
not
very
responsive
and
helpful,
and
so
there's
a
lot
of
processes
even
katherine
coming
forward.
Today,
she
was
not
explained
that
this
was
a
public
meeting.
S
The
clerk,
the
city,
clerk's
staff,
did
not
explain
to
her
what
was
happening,
and
so
she
thought
she
was
having
a
private
meeting.
So
we
need
to
tighten
up
our
city
processes
that
is
not
right
to
do
to
a
mother
who
is
a
survivor
who's
still
at
risk
from
the
perpetrator,
who's
out
there
and
then
to
just
have
her
tied
up
in
all
this
bureaucracy
and
process
that
fails.
I'm
optimistic.
We
can
get
the
new
leadership
at
san
jose
pd
to
be
more
sensitive.
To
look
at
these
issues
we're
here
we
have
the
documentation.
S
S
We
want
to
resolve
them
as
quickly
and
effectively
as
good
as
the
leadership
is
of
the
city
and
the
police
department,
or
you
know,
I
think
the
problem
is,
you
have
hundreds
of
other
employees
who
may
not
share
your
philosophies,
that's
where
we're
running
into
problems,
and
so
thank
you
for
the
support
we
do
get
from
san
jose
pd,
because
they're
helping
us
in
other
ways,
but
we
have
a
huge
gap
here,
that's
affecting
women
and
children,
and
we
we
will
continue
to
follow
this
and
raise
these
issues.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you
esther
all
right,
that's
all
the
comments,
so
I'm
going
to
go
to
the
public.
Now
before
we
take
a
vote
paul.
J
Yes,
good
afternoon,
paul
soto
from
the
horseshoe
first
of
all,
senora
catherine,
I
empathize
with
your
situation
on
march
13th.
I
was
sexually
assaulted
at
a
thu,
I
called
the
officer
officer
vieira
if
they
showed
up
exactly
what
happened
with
you
gaslighting
you
making.
You
think
that
you
misinterpreted
what
happened.
I
was
evicted
as
a
result
of
my
reaction
to
being
sexually
assaulted.
While
I
was
wearing
a
towel
by
another
man
and
I
was
evicted
on
the
spot,
I
went
to
a
piss
fist
meeting
and
you
can
research
this
it's
march
13th.
J
I
went
to
the
pithis
meeting
of
this
year
to
report
exactly
what
it
is
that
happened
to
me
as
a
result
of
my
advocacy
for
myself
that
it
was
wrong
and
that
the
way
that
the
officers
approached
the
situation
was
completely
inconsistent
with
understanding
that
this
is
a
victim
of
a
crime
that
they're
reporting
and
so
number
one.
I
was
evicted
number
two,
an
officer
that
still
remains
unknown,
called
up
my
probation
officer
and
had
me
locked
up
for
that.
J
I
did
45
days
in
jail
because
the
officer
didn't
like
the
fact
that
I
came
to
a
pistous
meeting
and
snitched
him
out.
This
happens
all
the
time.
So
I
sympathize
with
you.
I'm
hearing
everything
that
you're
saying
and
I'm
just
like
this
has
happened
to
the
chicano
community
for
decades.
However,
we
are
not.
We
don't
have
the
power
to
bring
it
to
a
picturesque
meeting.
We
don't
have
somebody
like
samira
dickman
that
goes
in
and
look
at
how
much
advocacy
she
had
to
go
through.
D
Good
afternoon,
I
agree
with
the
comments
by
the
previous
speakers
and
I'm
appalled
that
this
is
how
our
victims
of
domestic
violence
and
sexual
violence
are
treated,
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
the
law
requiring
you
know,
someone
only
has
access
to
the
body
cam
footage
if
they
are
officially
a
victim
of
a
crime
that
the
police
agree
has
taken
place
is
a
big
loophole
so
that
all
they
have
to
do
is
say.
Well,
we
don't
need
prime
trick
play,
so
no,
you
don't
get
to
see
the
footage.
D
It
seems
that
the
person
making
the
call
to
911
or
sjpd,
however
they're
contacting
they,
should
have
access
to
the
footage
of
their
encounter
with
the
officer
and
they
keep.
You
know
the
people
from
the
police
department
keep
making
the
straw.
Man
argument.
Oh
well,
you
know
we
can't
let
just
anybody
off
the
street.
You
wouldn't
want
just
anybody
able
to
see
what
happened.
Well,
the
person
I
mean
if
someone
can
confirm
that
they
are
the
one
who
contacted
sjpd
for
the
call
you
know
to
get
the
officer
to
come
out
for
that
encounter.
D
It
seems
like
they
should
have
the
rights
to
that
footage
and
that
being
able
to
deny
access
to
it.
Oh
well,
a
crime
didn't
happen,
means
that
the
police
can
get
away
with
all
kinds
of
things,
because
the
police
need
to
treat
people
well.
Even
if
a
crime
was
not
committed
in
the
police's
opinion,
you
know
they
need
to
treat
the
public
well,
even
if
the
public,
you
know
is
contacting
something
that
they
thought
they
thought
was
a
crime.
K
Blair,
hi
blair
beekman
here.
Thank
you
very
much
for
everyone's
work
on
this
item.
I
was
interested
in
the
words
of
one
of
the
persons
of
advocacy,
stating
that
it's
hard
in
itself
just
to
find
people
within
government
who
want
to
work
towards
their
better
practices,
and
you
know
that's
the
goals
I'm
trying
to
work
towards
myself
with
on
the
community
level.
How
can
we
be
more
interested
in
our
better
practices
at
this
time?
What
are
we
doing
for
ourselves
to
to
offer
that
of
ourselves?
K
I
think
new
police
chief
mata
can
do
a
very
good
job
at
trying
to
better
address
the
future
of
domestic
violence
issues
and
the
same
of
deputy
chief
washburn.
So
I'm
interested
how
the
growth
will
be
with
that
and
and
how
council
person
uranus
will
work
with
the
police
that
that
this
kind
of
thing
won't
happen
again.
K
K
I
think
it's
nice
that
we've
admitted
that
the
the
woman
has
had
her
arrest
warrants.
You
know
stay
away,
stay
away,
orders
in
place
already.
Thank
you
for
doing
that.
The
next
step
is,
can
we
begin
to
address
the
body
camera
issue?
You
know
it
doesn't
necessarily
have
to
be
an
issue
of
of
giving
that
us
things
to
the
person
as
a
public
matter.
Can
they
do
it
within
a
lawyer?
K
K
T
Thank
you
good
afternoon,
everyone,
scott
largent,
getting
on
to
the
meeting
a
little
late,
but
I
was
actually
looking
forward
to
figuring
out
the
outcome
for
katherine,
regarding
this
chess
camera
footage
her
investigation
it.
It
just
seems
like
we
sent
this
poor
woman
in
absolute
circles.
After
watching
last
week's
meeting,
I
kind
of
did
a
little
more
research,
on
my
end,
to
kind
of
figure
out
what
was
really
going
on
where
she
originally
went.
T
T
She
should
have
never
had
to
I'm
not
saying
this
is
a
bad
thing,
but
I
mean
she
should
not
have
to
go
on
to
a
government
meeting
and
put
her
dirty
laundry
on
the
table
so
to
say
that
this
never
should
have
happened,
and
you
guys
should
have
done
everything
to
prevent
that
everything
to
support
this
woman,
and
I
feel
so
bad
for
her.
T
I
have
tried
to
do
the
right
thing
on
my
end,
just
as
a
concerned
citizen.
I
I
don't
want
this
way
way
out
in
the
public,
but
how
do
we
change
what
has
happened
for
hundreds
of
women
that
have
to
go
through
this
right
now
I've
dealt
with
the
family
violence
unit.
I've
dealt
with
trying
to
have
san
jose
police
department
and
forced
visitation
orders
blah
blah
blah
when
it's
a
civil
order.
They
don't
really
care,
they
don't
enforce
it.
They
don't
do
anything.
T
You
guys
don't
look
at
restraining
orders,
you
really
don't
care,
you
don't
update
them
in
your
system
and
I
and
I
don't
buy
it-
that
that
that
she
didn't
have
a
legitimate
claim
coming
forward.
So
100
supporter,
you
guys
need
to
do
the
right
thing,
and
this
was
horrible
to
be
in
an
open
and
public
setting.
This
was
just
bad.
I
I
hope
things
change.
I
hope
everyone's
paying
attention.
N
I
I
E
B
J
K
Hi,
thank
you
for
this
item.
You
know
for
all
the
good
work
that
everyone
did
on
the
last
item.
I
hope
you
can
have
a
little
patience
for
myself
on
this
item.
I
think
this
is
also.
It
is
an
item
that
you're
doing
some
very
good
work
about
it's
about
how
people
of
small
businesses
can
get
loans,
for
you
know
for
american
disability
act
things
that
it
can
cover
a
number
of
issues.
K
You
know,
there's
there's
been
a
serious
litigation
issues
going
on
for
small
businesses
in
san
jose
recently
the
past
few
years
that
this
very
much
helps
address,
and
I
think
it's
it
is
the
way
that
we
always
want
to
address
these
sort
of
issues.
So
thank
you
incredibly
for
for
these
for
this
work
and
efforts.
I
think
it
will
help
everyone
out
a
lot.
K
There
is,
I
think,
there's
a
coveted
19
component
in
this
work.
If
I'm
not
mistaken-
and
I
was
hoping-
I
could
speak
for
a
minute
on
that-
just
that
there's
a
real
importance
that
I
think
we
have
to
be
in
this
country.
K
We've
learned
to
understand
what
can
be
a
certain
flexibility
to
understand
the
future
of
the
vaccine
process
and
the
future
of
the
community
safety
process
that
the
this
issue
is
trying
to
address.
You
know
with
new
filters:
a
business
can
air
filters,
a
business
can
have
you
know
mass
use,
sanitizer,
you
know
a
whole
bunch
of
things
that
a
person
can
a
small
business
can
can
can
get
a
loan.
K
I
think
for
this,
for
we're
finding
a
variety
of
mass
use
is
important,
of
course,
we're
finding
a
variety
of
ways
to
address
covid
right
now
that
don't
necessarily
have
to
involve
the
vaccine
process.
I
think
we
have
to
keep
that
in
mind.
We
can't
get
locked
into
this
mind
frame
that
the
vaccine
is
going
to
save
us
all
and
make
mandates
about
it.
We
have
to
be
flexible
in
this
country
towards
other
choices.
Thank
you.
D
Good
afternoon,
I'm
really
glad
to
see
the
city
considering
these
measures
to
assist
small
businesses
comply
with
the
ada
there's
two
main
problems:
the
ada
one
is
that
it's
enforced
by
a
lawsuit,
instead
of
just
being
a
set
of
requirements
like
fire
code
and
the
other
is
that
it's
an
unfunded
mandate.
D
Individual
businesses,
you
know,
bear
the
burden
of
complying
and
making
their
businesses
accessible
for
people
with
disabilities
and
for
for
really
small
businesses.
That
is
a
big
barrier,
and
it's
not
fair
that
the
predatory
lawyers
can
come
in
and
sue
them
and
make
disabled
people
look
bad
as
part
of
the
disability
community.
Even
though
I
don't
have
a
mobility
impairment,
I
support
those
who
do
and
any
one
of
us
could
be
in
a
wheelchair
tomorrow.
D
A
Hi
vice
mayor
jones,
good
to
see
you
and
members
of
the
committee.
My
name
is
victor
gomez,
with
pinnacle
strategy.
Consulting
my
firm
represents
the
organization,
california,
citizens
against
lawsuit
abuse.
We
advocate
for
small
and
medium-sized
businesses,
who
are
really
constantly
hit
with
these
frivolous
lawsuits
up
and
down
the
state.
So
I
just
wanted
to
to
thank
the
rules
committee
and
and
those
members
that
brought
this
forward
for
consideration
to
the
council.
A
So
what
you
have
outlined
in
your
memo
is
greatly
appreciated
and
will
continue
to
help
small
business
owners
come
into
compliance.
So
once
again
just
wanted
to
share
my
my
thank
yous
and-
and
I
really
appreciate
you
folks,
bringing
this
forward
and
hope
it
makes
it
to
the
city
council
soon.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
Good
afternoon
committee
members,
thank
you
very
much.
My
name
is
nate
leblanc,
I'm
with
the
san
jose
downtown
association.
Speaking
on
behalf
of
the
association
today,
I
just
want
to
thank
the
committee
for
taking
up
this
important
issue.
It's
been
very
interesting
to
watch
the
kind
of
the
civically
engaged
community.
If
you
will
the
chamber,
the
city
council,
our
organization,
take
up
this
important
issue.
I've
watched
small
businesses
go
out
of
business
as
a
result
of
these
lawsuits.
A
I
just
want
to
also
note
that
this
new
grant
is
a
great
addition
to
a
program
that
you
already
have
in
place
and
thank
juan
barelli
and
swan
hall
for
their
leadership
and
help
in
implementing
the
other
ada
grant,
which
is
you
know,
a
reimbursement
for
city
fees
and
contractor
services
when
people
make
these
changes,
but
this
upfront
money
putting
cash
in
people's
pockets
to
allow
them
to
get
these
casp
inspections
is
a
great
way
to
approach.
A
This
just
really
appreciate
that
you're
taking
it
up
and
want
to
offer
the
downtown
association's
help
in
getting
this
word
out
to
our
members
and
we'll
work
closely
with
anyone
who
needs
help
implementing
this
when
it's
hopefully
passed,
as
I
hope
you
guys
put
it
forward
today,
to
go
to
the
full
council
and
there
will
be
voted
on
unanimously.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
B
Great,
thank
you.
That's
it
for
public
comments,
so
I'm
going
to
pass
it
over
to
lee.
I
know
you
had
two
early
consideration
forms
that
were
done
for
both
memos
and
I'm
going
to
ask
you
to
speak
to
your
responses.
F
Sure,
thank
you
vice
mayor.
We
would
just
say:
yes,
we
have
early
consideration,
forms
for
both
g2
and
g3,
with
the
exception
of
one
item,
which
is
a
yellow
light.
Everything
is
a
green
light
and
part
of
work
that
staff
can
absorb
and
staff
from
the
office
of
economic
development
and
city
manager's
office
is
here
to
answer
any
questions
that
the
rules
committee
might
have.
B
Great
thank
you.
First,
I
see
council
member
esparza,
so
council
member
go
ahead.
P
Thank
you
vice
mayor,
I
first
off.
I
wanted
to
really
acknowledge
your
leadership
on
this
issue
for
quite
some
time
and
to
thank
you
for
all
the
work
that
you've
done
in
trying
to
make
us
a
more
equitable
city
as
well
as
help
our
small
businesses
and,
and
so
I,
I
loved,
reading
the
memo
from
yourself
and
councilmember,
foley
and
jimenez,
and
I
saw
it
as
a
great
compliment
to
the
memo
written
by
councilmember,
davis
and
perales
and
myself,
and
I
think,
they're
very
complimentary
in
both
short-term
and
long-term
strategies.
P
And
so
thank
you
for
your
leadership,
and
I
actually
wanted
to
just
start
off
by
saying
that
I
I
recognize
that
these
memos
are
focused
on
the
tools
to
help
businesses
become
more
accessible
and
the
impacts
to
our
small
businesses
when,
when
they're
targeted
by
folks,
who
are
not
trying
to
make
a
business
more
accessible
but
are
are,
are
doing
it
in
a
predatory
way
and
there's
one
gentleman
who
earned
seven
million
dollars
alone,
targeting
small
businesses
and-
and
so
I
know
in
my
district,
I've
had
a
swaths
of
little
saigon,
for
example,
or
la
placita.
P
Have
businesses
get
noticed
and
the
discussion
becomes
give
me
money
not
help
help
you
become
more
accessible
for
the
community,
which
is
really
what
the
conversation
that
we
should
be
having
and-
and
I
also
wanted
to
acknowledge,
councilmember
foley's.
I
think
it
was
her
budget
request.
I'm
trying
to
remember
june
2021
seems
so
long
ago,
right
now,
but
the
this
council
adopted
in
the
budget
in
in
june,
we
called
it
a
down
payment.
P
I
believe
in
the
budget
document
in
the
final
budget
message
to
have
a
down
payment
to
create
an
office
of
disability
affairs
and
that's
a
really
important
effort
that
is
already
underway
to
staff
to
fund
staff
within
the
city
manager's
office,
to
gather
input
from
stakeholders.
P
Prepare
a
report,
develop
a
proposed
work
plan
for
the
office
of
disability
affairs,
similar
to
the
process
for
the
office
of
racial
equity,
and
so
so,
given
that
environment
and
the
desire
to
make
businesses
more
accessible
to
partner
with
our
businesses,
and
do
that,
I
know
that
council,
member
davis
and
councilmember
perales
have
had
businesses
in
their
district
targeted
and
again.
P
Those
conversations
are
not
how
to
make
a
business
more
accessible,
but
give
me
money
so
that
to
make
this
go
away
and-
and
that
doesn't
seem
to
further
the
goal
of
that
we
have
of
making
our
city
more
accessible
and
so
vice
mayor.
Thank
you
for
your
memo.
I
know
you'll
speak
to
it,
but
I
really
appreciated
the
long
term
strategies
the
government
relations
strategies
how
to
finance
some
of
this
work
long
term.
P
P
Instead
of
using
that
money
to
keep
people
employed,
they're
essentially
have
been
using
it
to
pay
people
off,
and
the
pandemic,
as
folks
have
brought
up
to
us
at
council
meetings,
has
brought
challenges
for
folks
with
disabilities.
Remember
when
the
buses
were
down
early
on
in
covet
and
residents
were
frustrated.
How
do
I
get
to
an
appointment?
How
do
I?
How
do
I
do
what
I
need
to
do
to
live
my
life,
and
so
the
pandemic
has
also
brought
some
difficulties
on
individuals
in
our
community,
and
I
wanted
to
acknowledge.
P
First
off
that,
I
think
we
all
understand
that
the
state
and
federal
governments
are
responsible
for
the
governance
of
ada
compliance
and
but,
as
it
has
been
stated
so
often
the
city
is.
Is
you
know
where?
Where
that
line
right
there?
That
line
where
that
line
of
defense
and
we
can't
sit
by
while
our
small
businesses
are
targeted
and
and
our
residents
are
not
getting
any
more
accessibility
out
of
those
efforts.
P
So
so
I
just
I
wanted
to
highlight
that
this.
The
proposal
from
councilmember
davis
and
perales
and
myself
is
very
narrowly
targeted
to
that
short-term
effort.
Recommendation
number
one:
direct
staff
to
create
a
new
grant
program
to
small
businesses
who
want
to
become
ada
compliant
by
first
initiating
the
inspections.
P
And
although
the
city
currently
has
a
grant
program,
one
that
was
launched
in
february
of
2020,
it
was
set
up
as
a
reimbursement
model
which
created
barriers
for
a
lot
of
small
businesses
and
because
they're
putting
the
money
up
front
and
then
they
apply
to
have
that
money
credited
to
their
building
fees.
And
so
this
is
problematic
for
businesses
who
would
not
receive
that
assistance
until
they
were
ready
to
go
to
construction
and
then
others
that
have
to
deplete
their
reserves
to
stay
operable.
P
But
the
existing
program
would
shift
to
reimburse
costs
outside
of
that
inspection,
and
that's
important
too,
because
I
mean
we
learned
of
one
business
that
had
had
something
filed
against
them
and
really
what
they
needed
to
do
to
remedy.
The
situation
was
have
a
clearance
for
a
fruit
fruit
stand
and
then
raise
the
height
of
of
the
counter
and
and
and
it
helps
if
they
need
to
know
that
up
front,
then
they
can
just
go
and
do
it
and
not
wait
to
get
sued
for
fifty
thousand
dollars
or
ten
thousand
dollars.
P
For
that
recommendation.
Number
two
describes
an
outreach,
an
educational
campaign,
to
ensure
that
our
small
business,
our
small
businesses,
understand
the
importance
of
ada
compliance.
The
benefit
of
the
inspection
and,
importantly,
the
potential
penalties
for
non-compliance,
and
so
businesses
want
to
be
accessible.
Being
accessible,
is
good
for
business.
P
With
that
said,
there's
a
lack
of
educational
resources
for
small
businesses,
and
many
businesses
are
compliant
or
not
compliant
just
because
they
don't
have
the
information
and-
and
they
didn't
know
they-
they
think
hey,
I'm
getting
inspected
by
the
city
that
should
be
good
enough,
and
so
so.
Lastly,
and
also
on
the
outreach,
we
included
some
multi-lingual
efforts
in
that
which
is
so
important
during
the
pandemic.
P
I
personally
went
door
to
door
throughout
little
saigon
and
then
went
door
to
door
throughout
la
placita,
and
so
many
businesses
there-
those
are
mom
and
pops,
and
they
need
that
information.
They're,
not
you
know,
they're
doing
everything
for
their
business
and
you
know
providing
that
information
to
them
in
their
own
language
also
helps
create
a
more
equitable
environment
for
their
customers
for
their
monolingual,
vietnamese
speaking
customers
for
their
monolingual,
spanish-speaking
customers
and
remember.
P
Ultimately,
our
goal
is
accessibility,
so,
lastly,
our
proposal
includes
having
our
inter-governmental
relations
team
to
bring
back
any
legislation
in
the
pipeline.
So
as
a
city,
we
can
help
advocate
for
improving
accessibility
with
our
small
business
community
while
addressing
the
serious
issue
of
serial
lawsuit
filers,
which
has
really
caused
damage
to
our
small
business
community
without
increasing
access
for
our
residents,
and
so
I
just
ask
that
the
rules
committee
forward
both
memos
moving
forward
so
that
we
can
really
start
helping
our
small
businesses
and
helping
our
residents
increase
their
access
as
soon
as
possible.
H
Thank
you
vice
mayor.
I
just
want
to
speak
to
the
the
early
consideration
response
form.
I
want
to
thank
councilmember
esparza.
She
always
has
such
very
well
thought
out
remarks
and
I
never
have
much
to
add
after
she's
after
she's
done
she's
so
thorough,
but
I
did
want
to
ask
that
we
got
a
yellow
light
on
item
two
for
promoting
and
marketing
a
new
outreach
program,
and
I
wanted
to
ask
first
of
all
I'm.
H
I
guess
I'm
not
really
sure
how
this
doesn't
fit
into
the
city
road
map,
because
we
did
have
a
business
resilience
and
recover.
You
know
recovery
as
part
of
the
the
road
map
and
I,
given
that
these
serial
lawsuits
continued
throughout
the
pandemic
and
have
been
harmed
and
council
member
esparza
was
was
clear
about
how
some
people
were
using
their
relief
funds
even
to
pay
off
this
person.
I
think
it
does
fit
in
so
I
want
to
make
that
point
and
then
the
second
thing
is
to
develop
a
resource.
H
Even
if
we
can't
do
proactive
outreach.
Our
council
offices
are
very
well
connected
with
our
business
associations,
so
if
there
was
a
resource,
we
would
be
happy
to
promote
that
with
our
with
our
businesses
and
then
also
they
could
be
added
to
the
business
tax
notice,
which
goes
out
annually
at
different
time.
I
know
it's
at
different
times
of
the
year
for
different
businesses.
H
My
husband
got
his
just
a
couple
of
months
ago,
and
so
that
would
be
just
the
very,
very
basic
stuff
that
I
just
really
don't
feel
like
should
warrant
a
yellow
light,
and
so
I'm
I'm
gonna,
make
a
motion,
and
I
hope
I'm
not
stepping
on
you.
Vice
mayor,
I'm
gonna
make
a
motion
to
move
both
items
that
both
memos
from
perales
davis
and
esparza,
and
then
also
jones,
jimenez
and
foley
to
move
forward.
H
Thank
you
and
lee
if
you
want,
if
you
want
to
respond
to
the
the
question
about
not
being
on
the
road
map,
I
I
guess
I'd
like
a
little
bit
more
about
that,
because
I
really
do
we've.
We've
talked
about
the
importance
of
our
small
businesses
and
the
office
of
economic
development,
helping
our
small
businesses
throughout
the
pandemic
and
recovery,
and
I
see
nancy,
raise
her
hand,
so
I
think
she
probably
wants
to
address
it.
So
I
don't.
I
don't
understand
how
this
is
not
part
of
the
roadmap.
F
Yeah,
I'm
happy
to
address
kind
of
at
a
at
a
higher
level,
and
then
nancy
can
speak
to
the
specifics.
You
know
I
I
think,
because
the
subject
happens
to
be
on
the
road
map.
F
It
doesn't
necessarily
mean
it's
a
green
light
and
you
know
with
the
in
within
each
one
of
those
buckets
on
the
road
map
we've
discussed
with
you
and
part
of
the
road
map
exercise,
there's
a
certain
amount
of
work
that
we
had
scoped
out
as
a
part
of
the
road
map,
and
then
we
also
kind
of
moved
forward
when
we
did
the
the
budget
actions
related
to
the
american
rescue
plan.
F
So,
while
it's
very
topical-
and
you
know
on
the
road
map
and
topical
because
of
what
small
businesses
are
going
through,
it
doesn't
mean
that
the
city
is
necessarily
resourced
or
positioned.
Well
to
do
it.
You
know
based
off
of
kind
of
the
the
scale
of
the
work
I'll.
F
Let
nancy
speak
to
that,
but
I
I
do
believe
staff
looked
at
this
there's
a
very
kind
of
separate
and
intense
effort
that,
given
everything
else,
we're
doing
in
the
way
of
communicating
and
partnering
with
small
businesses
in
the
recovery
effort
that
we
might
not
be
able
to
to
pass
muster
on
this.
And
so
with
that,
I
would
ask
nancy
to
jump
in.
E
I
just
wanted
first
to
start
by
saying
really
our
staff
really
dug
in
and
appreciated
these
memos,
because
they
really
are
showing
us
how
to
do
what
we
do
even
better,
so
that
first
program
about
getting
hand
dollars
in
the
hands
of
people
for
inspections
is
wonderful
and
it
really
will
help
clarify
as
well
as
make
implementable
the
steps
so
that
they
can
get
certified,
and
it
will
make
the
second
program
which
we
have
used
more
because
it's
not
used
enough.
But
people
get
stuck.
E
I
think
on
the
inspection,
and
so
those,
as
you
know,
will
take
a
little
time
to
either
develop
and
tweak.
We
going
back
to
the
notion
of
the
outreach
we
absolutely
agree.
We
can
take
what
we
have
now
and
push
it
out.
We
don't
believe
we
have
to
recreate
the
wheel
on
a
lot
of
this,
because
other
communities
honestly
have
done
a
really
good
job
of
of
taking
the
state
material.
So,
in
the
near
term,
we
we
can
work
with
that.
E
What
we've
seen
of
those
many
of
those
or
most
of
those
are
not
translated,
and
we
do
agree.
It's
really
important
to
to
make
sure
this
information
goes
out
in
multiple
languages
and
and
that'll
take
a
little
bit
of
time
and
effort,
as
well
as
building
together
the
pieces
that
are
reflective
of
what
we're
doing
in
san
jose
those
that
pieces
and
those
pieces
of
information
will
will
need
to
be
developed
thoughtfully
so
that
that'll
take
a
little
bit
of
time
and
a
little
bit
of
money
and
we're
not
asking
for
more
money.
E
We're
we're
at
the
moment
we're
looking
for
just
a
little
bit
of
time
to
put
it
together,
and
I
think,
lastly,
we
see
there's
an
opportunity
to
really
work
with
your
offices.
E
Work
with
the
community
based
operations
to
keep
adding
skill
set
and
capacity
for
them,
and
then
to
do
more
of
working
with
folks,
like
kqed
and
business
journal
and
mercury
news
to
actually
get
them
information
out,
because
it
it
needs
to
be
repeated
regularly
and
many
times,
because
they
get
this
stuff
one
time
they're
busy
and
it
goes
in
the
circular
file.
I
think
so.
So,
there's
a
lot
of
work
that
we
can
do
work
that
we
can
do
up
front,
but
the
yellow
light
really
refers
to
getting
to
do
it.
H
E
F
S
P
Can
get
legal
review
and
have
city
attorney's
office?
Take
a
look
at
that
funding
to
see
if,
in
fact,
it
can.
S
F
Yeah,
thank
you
rosalind,
and
that
was
going
to
be
my
suggestion
as
well
and
then
just
just
picking
up,
I
think
what
I'm
hearing
nancy
say
and
maybe
the
difference,
which
is
why
it
was
yellow
light.
F
When
I
look
at
the
memo,
it
talks
about
kind
of
a
a
campaign
and
very
specific
targeting,
but
if,
through
the
recovery
process
and
the
recovery
task
force
and
all
of
the
small
business
outreach
that
we
do
as
an
organization
whether
it's
you
know,
business
license
tax
or
office
of
economic
development
and
their
existing
workload,
if
we
can
integrate
this
work
into
that,
so
they're
made
aware
of
these
programs,
then
yes,
it's
a
green
light.
If
that
is
the
wish
of
the
rules
committee.
H
Well,
I
think,
I'm
I
would
like
us
to
get
the
information
out
as
quickly
as
possible
through
the
channels
that
we
have,
and
you
know
I
don't
want
to
make
the
perfect
enemy
of
the
good
I
I
know
I
say
that
a
lot,
but
I
really
think
that
getting
this
stuff
out
with
the
the
serial
filer
now
making
his
way
down
lincoln
avenue
and
and
hitting
multiple
businesses
in
my
district
just
in
the
last
month,
the
sooner
we
can
get
the
information
out
the
better.
H
I
do
want
to
also
say
honestly
that
one
of
the
hesitations,
I
think
that
businesses
might
have-
and
this
is
speculation
on
my
part-
but
from
conversations
with
businesses
and
other
folks
who
have
gone
through
inspections
there.
There
would
be
a
concern
that
there's
going
to
be
some
gotcha
there
and
a
concern
about
what,
if
they
find
something
I
actually
can't
afford
to
do
so
if
there
is
any
anything
in
the
materials
that
could
give
some
reassurances
to
the
businesses
about
those
issues.
H
That
would
be
very
helpful
to
have
in
those
materials.
Because
part
of
the
reason
I
I
would
be
shocked
if
I
was
wrong
about
this
part
of
the
reason
why
we're
not
having
the
uptake
is,
there
is
some
fear
about
getting
inspections
and
then
getting
hit
with
either
fines
from
the
city
or
timelines
they
can't
meet,
or
you
know
something
that's
costly,
that
they
can't
afford
to
do,
and
so
it's
kind
of
like
not
going
to
the
doctor
when
something's
wrong,
because
you're
afraid
of
what
the
results
might
mean.
H
I
think
that's
what
we're
seeing
and
we
need
to
be
able
to
address
that
underlying
issue
so
that
we
can
actually
get
to
better
accessibility.
That
again,
may
not
be
perfect,
but
is
better
than
what
exists
right
now
and
also
gives
that
protection
for
the
businesses
to
say:
hey,
we're
working
on
this
we're
making
headway.
H
F
B
If
you
had
an
opportunity
to
look
at
the
attachment,
a
council
member
whose
hand
I
just
saw
raised
is
getting
hammered
with
these
lawsuits
in
2020
in
the
zip
code,
95112
there's,
there's
been
65
of
them,
so
in
san
jose
is
the
number
one
city
in
california
for
these
types
of
lawsuits.
B
If
you
can't,
you
know
if
they
don't
understand
what
the
potential
suit
is
all
about,
or
someone
comes
and
says
you
know,
you
need
to
give
me
money.
Otherwise,
I'm
going
to
take
you
to
court
or
I'm
going
to
sue
you
and
there's
a
lot
of
fear
in
in
in
the
community
in
terms
of
these
lawsuits.
So
I
appreciate
my
counsel
fellow
council
colleagues
that
are
partnering
with
me
to
to
move
this
forward
and
I
I
definitely
agree
that
the
two
memos
complement
each
other
and
lee.
B
I
wanted
to
just
kind
of
expand
on
council
member
davis
question.
There's
848
000
in
the
revolving
fund.
F
Well,
I
would
say,
based
off
of
what
I
I
thought
were
on
the
forms
we
would
be
tapping
into
some
of
that
800
000
for
a
variety
of
things
related
to
this
program,
not
just
communications,
but
I
would
think
if
we
were
gonna
hold
true
to
number
two
of
the
paralysis,
davis
and
esparza
memo,
and
it
was
kind
of
a
very
targeted
campaign
and
very
robust
that
800
000
would
be
more
than
enough
to
focus
in
on
that
work.
Absolutely.
B
Great
thank
you.
Well
again,
I
appreciate
all
the
hard
work
and
effort
of
all
the
council
members.
I
think
everyone
is
in
agreement
that
this
is
a
major
issue
for
our
businesses,
something
that
we
need
to
address
as
quickly
as
possible.
Councilmember
dave,
as
you
said,
they're
starting
to
make
their
way
down
lincoln
avenue,
they're
on
the
on
the
west
side
and
they're
throughout
the
city,
and
we
need
to
do
something
to
address
it.
Council,
member
perales,.
O
Yeah,
thank
you
vice
mayor
and
thank
you
to
councilmember
davis
and
esparza
as
well.
I
think
they
said
it
well,
so
I'll
echo
those
comments,
and
you
have
highlighted
the
95112
area,
which
is
actually
japan,
town
and
north
13th
street,
and
that's
where
we
had
actually
when
I
was
coming
into
office.
O
Seven
years
ago
we
had
a
number
of
small
businesses
that
were
that
were
targeted,
like
we've
seen
happen
now
throughout
our
city
and,
unfortunately,
a
couple
of
those
ended
up
having
to
close
up
shop,
mom
and
pop
shops,
and
it's
just
that
was
my
first
introduction
to
this,
and
we
tried
to
do
our
part
for
district
three
and
like
japan,
town
and
then
the
downtown
core,
as
that
started,
to
get
hit,
and
it
just
really
every
time
this
this
happens.
O
It
feels
like
such
a
daunting
task
because
of
of
these
individuals,
hiding
behind
this
ada
law
and
and
really
taking
advantage
of
it-
and
I
think
you
know
to
the
extent
of
of
whatever
we
can
do
possible
to
try
and
prepare
our
small
businesses
for
this.
I
still
think
that's
you
know.
This
is
just
the
local
effort
right.
O
I
think
we
we
want
to
see
some
change
up
at
the
federal
level
and
really
looking
forward
to
those
opportunities
as
well,
but
to
the
extent
that
we
can
do
more
here
locally,
very
interested.
O
So
I
was
excited
to
see
that
there
are
six
of
us
right
that
through
two
different
brown
acts
that
are
in
alignment
with
this
direction,
and
I
appreciate
the
the
motion-
and
I
know
you
know
not
not
to
try
and
right
for
staff
to
do
anything
that
that
you're,
not
capable
of-
and
I
don't
think
any
of
us
would
ask
that
of
you
right.
We
want
to
be
able
to
give
you
the
resources,
you
need
and
not
ask
too
much
of
you,
but
I
do
agree
with
councilmember
davis.
O
In
this
regard,
is
we
don't
want
to
to
have
perfect,
be
the
enemy
of
the
good
here
and
if
we
can
get
out
some?
Even
you
know,
a
little
bit
of
information
may
help
somebody
in
this
regard,
and
it
may
not
be
the
best
we're
obviously
asking
for
something
very
robust.
O
We
had
a
lot
of
minority-owned
businesses
that
were
targeted,
and
so
clearly
the
language
barrier
is
there
and
if
we're
not
getting,
you
know
information
out
in
multi
languages,
that's
a
challenge,
but
we
need
to
be
taking
some
steps
and
if
we
have
resources
to
do
so,
that's
what
we're
looking
for
and
so
I'm
going
to
be
supportive
of
the
motion
and
and
then
look
forward
to
working
this
out
with
staff
to
see
how
far
we
can
push
now
with
the
resources
we
have
and
then
ultimately,
if,
if
we
need
more
or
we
need
to
refine
some
of
the
aston,
then
you
know
we're
here
to
work
with
you
to
do
that.
B
Thank
you,
councilmember
lee
in
terms
of
bringing
it
back
to
council,
would
that
be
in
the
form
of
an
info
memo
or
actually
bringing
it
back
to
council.
F
Yeah,
so
I
think,
as
a
team
it'd
be
good
for
for
nancy,
sarah
and
rosalinda
regroup
and
I'd
like
to
better
understand
that
funding
pot
and
what
we
can
legally
do
if
we
need
to
appropriate
it
for
something
specific.
If
it's
not
already
there
for
a
specific
use,
we
would
need
to
bring
it
back
to
council.
If
we
don't
need
to
do
that.
B
H
I
B
B
Is
prove
the
starters
office
monthly
report
of
activities
for
the
month
of
november
2021.
A
Hello
good
afternoon,
council
members,
so
before
you
is
our
monthly
report
activities
for
the
month
of
november.
A
A
We,
the
balance
of
our
work
plan,
is
in
the
attachment.
The
next
item
up
is
our
annual
services
report,
which
we'll
be
probably
hoping
to
be
releasing
before
the
break
and
then,
as
you
can
see,
there's
a
number
of
projects
in
progress
happy
to
answer
any
questions,
and
I
ask
that
you
accept
the
report.
K
All
right,
the
mute
button
just
came
on
here
thanks
a
lot.
I'm
sorry,
I'm
harassed
a
bit
in
in
speaking
at
public
comment
time.
I
have
really
good
intentions
in
writing.
Public
at
public
comment
time.
It's
sad
that
I
have
to
be
harassed
a
bit
sad
state
of
things
of
our
lives,
but
onward
we
go.
I'm
trying
to
learn
to
there's
a
lot
of
good
issues
and
items
that
are
on
a
auditing
report
each
month
that
I
think,
can
it
can
all
parts
of
the
community.
K
K
That
is
a
concept
that
you're
talking
to
the
state
of
california
about
issues
right
now.
I
know
other
cities
around
the
bay
area
are
as
well
at
this
time.
I've
talked
often
about
the
ideas
of
you
know
natural
disaster
preparedness.
We
have
to
do
at
this
time.
I'm
sorry
this
past
year,
I've
come
on
too
strong
about
that
issue.
A
bit.
K
I've
tried
to
make
it
clear
what
we
possibly
have
to
prepare
for,
but
maybe
not-
and
I
I
this
next
year,
I
have
to
learn
to
practice
the
maybe
not
you
know
in
2023,
actually
maybe
a
year
that
we
really
get
our
act
together
and
and
bring
the
ideas
of
equity
and
reimagine
and
renewable
energy
ideas
all
to
a
really
important
good
future
purpose.
We
all
get
it
together
and
how
we're
going
to
work
through
the
rest
of
the
decade.
K
I
got
to
learn
to
speak
about
that
more,
but
yet
still
be,
you
know,
worried
and
planning
and
preparing
for
natural
disaster
things
to
learn
how
to
incorporate
natural
disaster
things
naturally
into
you
know
the
future
ideas
of
equity
and
reimagine
and
health
and
human
services
can
simply
be
a
really
good
thing
to
be
learning
at
this
time,
and
it
can
be,
you
know,
comfortable
and
relaxed
how
we
can
learn
how
to
do
this
to
for
our
good
future
practices
and
preparedness.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you
paul.
J
The
comments
that
I'm
making
are
not
directly
towards
you,
joe.
I
respect
your
work.
Your
work
is,
I
think,
under
under
acknowledged,
because
you
go
through
literally
every
single
department
and
create
these
these,
these
audits
you're,
looking
at.
Where
is
the
money
going?
How
is
it
going?
Is
it
being
applied?
Do
we
need
to?
You
know
ensure
that
this
these
monies
go
through
this
stream,
and
so
I
respect
your
work.
J
However,
it's
about
time
the
city
can't
wait
any
longer.
The
documents
that
have
been
produced
and
put
into
the
public
record
that
state
that
equity
has
been
applied
to
these
documents
are
false.
Those
are
lies,
okay.
That
means
that
the
document
is
actually
illegal
because
you
haven't,
you
did
not
apply,
because
you
can't
even
define
it
and
that's
why
you
know.
J
J
J
This
city
was
willing
to
give
that
sorry
definition
and
then
expect
someone
like
me
to
accept
that.
No,
I
know
what
a
legal
definition
of
equity
is
like.
Why?
Because
I
experienced
every
single
inequity
that
this
city
has
dished
out
and
it's
not
acceptable
any
longer,
not
acceptable,
and
the
fact
that
you
guys
are
comfortable
with
you're
very,
very
comfortable,
not
doing
it.
J
B
E
B
A
B
A
Afternoon,
geroy
city
audra
again
so
under
government
government
auditing
standards.
Our
office
is
required
to
undergo
a
peer
review
of
our
annual
processes
to
ensure
our
work
complies
with
government
auditing
standards
issued
by
the
comptroller
of
the
united
states
and
under
the
city
charter,
where
to
undergo
this
peer
review.
A
In
addition,
the
auditors
noted
a
few
areas
where
they
felt
the
office
excels.
First,
they
found
that
we
have
developed
an
audit.
Template
produces
organized
and
well-documented
work
papers.
Next,
they
found
our
approach
to
training
staff,
including
formal
new
hire
orientation
plan,
as
well
as
establishing
individual
professional
development
plans,
promote
staff
development.
And
finally,
they
noted
that
our
policies
and
procedures
which
got
our
work
in
accordance
with
auditing
standards
were
clear
and
easy
to
understand.
A
A
B
K
Hi,
thank
you
baby
quinn
here
I
remember
when
the
auditors
were
in
town
and
you
introduced
them,
and
I
wish
I
had
said
something
I
wish.
I
said
hello
at
the
time
I
didn't.
Unfortunately,
I
was
interested
how
you
know
people
from
houston
and
austin.
They
would.
They
would
view
our
renewable
energy
practices
and
what
we
do
in
that
field.
K
I
think
it
could
be
of
great
help
to
them
in
what
they're
going
through
in
in
texas
at
this
time
as
a
learning
process
and
and
what
you're
doing
in
overall
good
ideas
of
equity
with
auditing
that
can
help
cities
like
oakland
and
and
and
make
comparisons
and
helpful
ideas.
K
I've
just
overall
been
really
it's
interesting
when
and
how
you
describe
the
issue
and
that
people
came
to
town
to
to
review
our
better
practices
of
ourselves.
So
yeah
thanks
for
this
item
and
a
reminder
of
it
and
and
how
we
can
exchange
ideas,
the
importance
of
exchanging
ideas
and
what
that
can
follow.
Obviously
I
think
pg
e
has
got
some
problems
and
we're
trying
to
address
their
business
competitive
nature
and
try
to
really
bring
that
down
and
and
slow.
K
It
down,
and
people
in
texas
really
have
to
learn
those
lessons.
The
electricity
corporation's
there
all
right
I'll,
be
done
on
that
topic,
but
just
to
thank
you
for
the
overall
connections
that
we
can
make
in
in
different
people
from
different
parts
of
the
country
meeting
up
and
learning
to
talk
with
each
other
about
their
practices.
Thank
you.
J
Yes,
paul
soto
from
the
horseshoe,
this
audit
that
that's
cool
but
austin,
texas,
sam
houston,
steve
austin,
remember
1836
the
takeover.
They
did
the
same
thing
to
texas
and
then
they
made
their
way
to
california.
So
I
don't
trust,
I
don't
trust
austin.
I
don't
trust
houston
and
I
certainly
don't
trust
texas
so
to
legitimize
a
document
and
then
legitimize
your
practices
using
texas
as
the
standard
by
which
it's
validated
you're,
talking
to
a
chicano
that
understands
his
history,
and
so
this
is
this.
J
Is
why
give
me
the
equity
definition
that
you
used
or
that
they
applied
there?
But
texas
doesn't
have
one
because
texas
doesn't
care
about
equity,
we're
talking
about
a
state
that
had
the
texas
rangers,
the
texas
rangers,
who
literally
used
to
just
lynch
mexicans
on
the
same
level
that
they
were
lynching,
blacks.
J
The
redlining
map
must
be
reckoned
with
because,
from
it
flowed
all
kinds
of
vile
diseases
and
the
disease
was
white.
Supremacy
in
this
city
was
that
in
your
documents,
do
you
think
texas
would
affirm
that
if
they
spotted
it?
No,
because
it's
normalized
to
them
it's
normal
and
to
certain
people
here
in
the
city,
it's
normal
to
be
doing
what
it
is
that
you're
doing
now.
J
You
know
san
micado
advocating
for
the
chinese
earlier
today.
That
one
has
was
that
in
your
audit
they
were.
Were
they
saying
that
they,
the
chinese
and
and
vietnamese,
are
now
the
ones
that
they're
gonna
be
advocating,
for
that
was
evidenced
by
paralysis,
acknowledging
them.
G
B
To
approve
all
right
I'll
take
that
as
a
motion
in
a
second
ruth
davis,
yeah.
E
K
B
Aye,
thank
you.
Okay.
The
last
item
on
the
agenda
is
open
forum,
so
I'm
gonna
go
to
the
public
and
paul
you're
up.
First.
J
Yes,
paul
shot
upon
the
horseshoe.
I
really
have
to
acknowledge
councilwoman,
esparza
and
and
carrasco
and
arenas
for
what
they've
been
doing
for
the
past
couple
days,
because
I
see
it,
I
hear
it
in
your
voices
and
the
memo
that
was
produced
by
esparza
and
carrasco
with
respect
to
articulating
what
the
history
is.
J
Okay,
well,
the
part
proof
part
when
that
when
the
city
came
in
and
they
said,
yeah
proof
park
on
680,
280
and
101.,
they
couldn't
even
come
out
of
their
mouth
and
say
king's
story.
Why?
Because
that
would
draw
attention
to
the
water
it
would
draw
attention.
We
put
the
response
of
the
sons
and
daughters
of
kampasimus
that
were
suffering
on
the
east
side.
You
know
what
our
response
was:
the
low
rider
movement,
that's
what
we
did.
J
They
paved
over
bud
winterfield,
but
winterfield
was
when
in
1968
the
chicano
commencement
happened
and
what
they
did
is
because
it
was
only
one
percent.
One
percent
of
the
population
of
mexicans
in
this
city
were
allowed
at
san
jose
state
university.
They
walked
out
in
protest
of
that
fact,
and
they
walked
over
to
the
blood
winterfield.
J
The
same
field,
where
tommy
smith
and
juan
carlos
took
to
the
stage
took
to
the
world
stage
in
mexico
city
in
1968
just
a
couple
months
after
that,
and
they
showed
the
world
who
was
bad
on
that
day
and
they
were
in
support
with
the
panthers
and
they
removed
their
shoes.
Why?
Because
they
knew
that
you,
whenever
it
is
that
you're
in
a
position
of
power,
you
always
create
a
solidarity
with
those
that
have
none.
That's
what
the
removal
of
the
shoes
symbolized
and
the
raised
fist.
K
Hi,
thank
you
blair,
beekman
here,
thanks
for
the
meeting
today,
as
as
as
important
as
community
safety
is
for
issues
towards
public
health
and
the
such.
I
I
think
in
this
country
we
we
can
have
a
few
more
choices
to
be
like
a
bit
more
flexible
in
how
we
view
the
future
of
the
vaccine
process.
K
I
think
making
these
vaccine
mandates
is
not
quite
the
way
to
go
yet.
I
think
we
have
a
bit
of
time
and
room
to
better
consider
you
know
mass
use
and
and
and
and
practices
that
you
know
people
are
concerned
about
what
the
vaccine
is
is
about,
and
we
need
to.
You
guys
really
need
to
learn
to
be
more
open
with
ourselves
and
practice
how
to
be
more
open
about
the
process.
That's
how
we
learn
we're
not
in
a
process
process
in
a
state
of
war.
K
K
That's
how
you
teach
you
know
our
young
people
right
now,
who
are
looting
so
much
and
going
crazy
because
they're
apathetic
as
anything
they
don't
care,
I
mean
we've
developed
a
bad
system.
Let's
show
what
we
are
doing.
Well,
let's
do
our
good
practice
as
well
and
and
and
invite
a
maturity
to
this
process.
We
need
to
be
communicating
better,
like
with
oakland
and
san
jose
need
to
be
connecting
about.
You
know
they're,
going
through
the
same
things
with
with
crime
issues.
K
We
need
to
solve
these
things
by
being
open
and
decent
and
honest
with
each
other
and
invite
the
leaders
themselves
to
what
can
be
our
better
practices
and
our
better
future
and
our
better
ideals.
How
do
we
do
that?
It
isn't
hiding
everything
it
isn't,
keeping
things
secretive,
you
know,
let's
do
it
openly,
let's
get
it
out
there
for
everybody,
good
luck
with
the
pg
e
issues.
You
know,
let's
rally
and
ask
them
to
stop
this
solar
thing
they're
on
and
thanks
for
your
time.
K
G
Hi
good
evening,
so
I'm
back
again
yesterday
it
was
five
weeks
that
I've
been
emailing
calling
taking
tours
at
phase
three
at
columbus
park.
Today,
I
I
gave
a
tour
that
sounds
kind
of
funny
to
rotary
people
a
person
from
rotary,
and
they
were
absolutely
appalled
at
what
they
saw.
Well.
Everybody
is,
I
also
want
to
say
that
I'm
very,
very
disappointed.
I'm
sorry,
raul,
councilman,
I'm
very
disappointed
in
you
for
not
stepping
up
and
taking
the
ball
and
and
trying
to
get
these
porta-potties
moved.
G
G
Hopefully
it's
going
to
be
taken
care
of,
but
I
have
no
support
from
you
your
office,
mr
raul,
because
I
don't
know
why
we
have
a
problem
with
a
man
out
there.
We
call
him
the
woodchucker,
it's
gonna
be
a
fire.
It's
a
disaster
waiting
to
happen
if
you've
ever
seen
all
the
wood
that
he
has
out
there.
It's
going
to
be
another
ghost
happening
because
the
fire
is
going
to
happen
and
this
man
needs
to
be
posted
needs
to
be
taken
out
of
there.
G
It's
a
disaster
and
you've
all
seen
it
probably
at
heading
and
spring
now
you
can't
get
into
it,
but
something
has
to
be
done
with
him.
What
we
saw
today
I
have
pictures
was
a
stunning.
I
couldn't
even
believe
what
I
was
looking
at
this
company
dropping
off
these
huge
trees,
huge
and
nobody's
doing
anything.
G
T
Thank
you.
Everyone,
scott
largent
gail,
basically
knocked
it
out
of
the
park
right
there
she's
bringing
a
lot
of
things
to
your
attention
right
now
that
are
going
on
out
there
at
columbus
park
out
at
spring
street.
T
You
know
I
could
just
keep
beating
the
same
drum,
but
I'm
gonna
basically
keep
it
focused
on
the
wood
chucker,
so
this
guy
out
there
he
used
to
be
my
neighbor
out
there
until
he
burned
his
entire
well.
I
believe
it
was
like
a
three-story
structure
with
like
a
gunner's
tower
on
top
and
several
mirrors
and
and
solar
panels.
I
mean
it
was
just
a
meth
maze,
so
this
guy
has
burnt
this
thing
down
multiple
times.
T
T
This
man
is
out
there
burning
wood
that
should
not
be
burned
during
spare
the
air
days,
which
I
am
just
absolutely
shocked,
the
city
hasn't
done
anything
about.
He
has
now
rebuilt
the
meth
shack
again
and
we
had
a
fire
there.
Two
or
three
days
ago.
People
could
could
knock
it
out
where
the
k
rails
are
at,
so
they
drove
straight
through
that
wooden
fence
right
there.
This
man
now
has
brought
in
more
wood,
more
trees
now,
and
he
has
completely
blocked
everything.
I
mean
these
things
are
massive
tree
trunks
that
are
out
there.
T
So
he's
worked
a
deal
with
all
these
different
tree
trimming
companies
that
it's
okay
to
dump
everything
they
have
out
there
and
then
it's
okay
for
him
to
have
a
burn
pile
as
if
we
live
in
oregon.
Okay,
I
don't
even
think
burn.
I
don't
even
think
we
have
any
prescribed
burn
days
here
that
are
even
legal
or
possible.
T
B
Thank
you,
catherine.
D
Thank
you,
yeah.
I
want
to
agree
with
the
last
two
speakers
that
actually
should
not
be
happening.
It's
one
thing
to
say:
don't
criminalize
homelessness.
It's
another
thing
to
say
it's,
okay
to
be
creating
major
fire
safety
issues.
D
And
close
to
businesses
and
menacing
the
other
people
who
don't
have
anywhere
else
to
go,
somebody
needs
to
enforce
the
laws
on
him
instead
of
just
you
know,
looking
the
other
way
until
it
all
burns
down
and
everybody
can
be
like.
Oh,
that
was
so
sad,
but
at
least
it's
gone
now
and
there's
something
else.
I
was
gonna
talk
about.
What
was
it.
D
I
forgot
the
other
thing.
I
was
going
to
talk
about
something
in
somebody
else
and
say:
oh
yes,
I
don't
think
that
we
should
be
looking
at
both
sides
of
medical
issues
any
more
than
we
should
be
looking
at
both
sides
of
fire
safety.
D
D
I
don't
know
what
can
be
done
to
make
sure
that
hourly
workers
are
compensated
for
any
time
they
mess
because
they
feel
poorly
after
the
vaccine
for
a
few
days,
because
that's
just
what
your
immune
system
does
it.
Doesn't
it's
not
like
a
side
effect.
It's
just
your
immune
system
having
a
fire
drill,
basically,
and
I
don't
think
we
should
be
going
backwards
on
requirements
for
city
workers
at
the
city.
A
Are
you
are
you?
Is
everyone
on
city
council
hearing
this
hearing
what
you're
not
doing
cause?
I
know
raul
peral
is
he's
concerned
about
how
much
tax
they're
getting
from
the
marijuana.
That's
what
he
wants
right.
Does
he
care
about
you
as
a
local
resident?
Why
these
guys
are
destroying
this
park
lighting
fires?
Everything
else.
Does
he
care?
No,
I
mean.
G
A
Would
he
expect
a
former
cop
former
teacher?
I
mean
just
a
city
council
person.
Three
strikes
your
outro,
sorry
buddy,
but
you
are
and
not
not
doing
his
work,
not
caring
about
the
public
and
look
what
happens.
This
is
what
happens
when
your
city
council
wants
to
have
adult
tricycles
scooters
they
like
to
arrange
abortions.
A
You
know
over
state
lines,
just
in
case
someone
in
mississippi
misses
their
period
they're
going
to
bring
him
here
and
get
an
abortion.
This
is
what
they
come.
This
is
what
they
like
to
concentrate
on
a
mass
transit
system
to
nowhere.
It's
not
ever
going
to
work
that
nobody
uses
that
cost
billions
of
dollars,
that's
what
they
focus
on.
They
focus
on
your
shed
in
your
backyard.
A
They
focus
on.
If
you
have
a
flagpole,
that's
too
high,
but
they
allow
this
to
happen.
Hey
you're,
the
homeowner
you're!
You
got
your
your
your
bumper
over
in
the
sidewalk
you're
gonna
get
a
citation
if,
if
the
bumper
is
is
over
on
the
sidewalk,
where
you
got
your
car
parked
in
the
driveway,
hey
wait
a
minute.
They're
gonna
find
you.
If
there's
a
work
truck
unloading.
Some
sod
to
redo
your
front
lawn
but
hey
by
all
means,
let
that
happen
at
columbus
park.
A
Let
a
complete
destruction
of
a
park
and
a
city
and
people's
peace,
peace
and
quiet
yeah.
That's
what
the
city
council
does
you
focus
on
everything?
That's
wrong.
All
you,
people
in
city,
council,
you're,
irresponsible,
you're,
rude,
you're,
inconsiderate
and
that's
what
you're
doing
to
this
public.
B
L
Hi
well
on
that
night,
no
I'll
just
tell
you
how
much
I
appreciate
all
of
you
before.
I
give
my
comment
as
somebody
who
suffers
from
migraine
disease,
even
though
I
would
love
to
be
a
part
of
doing
much
more
in
my
life
and
at
city
council.
The
fact
of
the
matter
is,
I
would
never
be
able
to
do
the
job
that
you
do
and
so
really
thank
you.
We
don't
always
have
to
agree.
That's
okay,
but
I
do
thank
you
and
I
am
hearing
all
of
these
negative
comments.
L
I
want
you
to
know
they.
They
really
hurt
my
heart,
I'm
a
sensitive
person.
It
drives
me
nuts,
but
anyway,
okay,
a
minute
30
left
to
talk
to
you
about
what
I
really
want
to
say,
which
is
that
I
want
to
ask
you
what
type
of
response
do
we
expect?
Excuse
me,
do
you
expect,
or
does
the
city
expect
of
developers
and
those
associated
with
developers,
for
example
their
partners,
their
presenters
of
projects
and
so
forth?
What
type
of
response
do
you
expect
them
to
have
to
people
in
the
community?
L
I
would
imagine
you
want
them
to
be
responsive
and
to
include
us
in
the
process,
but
I
have
reached
out
on
numerous
occasions
to
jonathan
imami
and
leslie
guardino,
who
are
both
people
that
have
apparently
purchased
the
property
at
the
fish
market
off
of
blossom
hill
road,
which
is
the
urban
village
that
I'm
in
and
I'm
what
I
I
did.
I
did
not
attend.
The
first
meeting
did
not
know
about
the
first
meeting.
L
The
number
on
the
sign
was
not
the
same
number
they're
using
now,
there's
a
lot
of
inconsistencies
and
issues,
but
my
question
is
to
you
is
when
you're
talking
to
these
developers
about
these
projects,
I
hope
that
you
will
encourage
them
to
call
people
back
that
are
interested
in
their
project,
I'm
actually
very
supportive
of
their
seven
story
project
and
would
like
to
have
a
good
design
and
to
be
a
big
part
of
of
making
it
move
forward.
But
I
can
get
no
response
from
them.
L
So
please
encourage
those
people
to
interact
with
people
in
the
community.
Thank
you.