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City of San José, California
Joint meeting of Rules and Open Government / Committee of the Whole, April 12, 2023
Pre-meeting citizen input on Agenda via eComment at https://sanjose.granicusideas.com/meetings.
This public meeting will be held at San José City Hall and also accessible via Zoom Webinar. For information on public participation via Zoom, please refer to the linked meeting agenda below.
Agenda: https://sanjose.legistar.com/View.ashx?M=A&ID=1075940&GUID=EC0ADF3B-BAAC-4EED-9352-B7A8A9162ACD
A
A
A
A
A
B
C
E
D
D
D
Nine
items
on
consent:
on
page
nine,
we
have
graffiti
abatement
service
report
and
section
5.1,
another
Street
resurfacing:
contract
age,
10,
pre-development
agreement
for
the
airport,
connector
and
then
section
seven.
We
have
a
neighborhood
Commission
report
and
urban
Confluence
update
and
no
land
use.
Next
week
there
is
an
ad
sheet,
so
the
maker.
The
motion
should
include
that
and
we'll
go
to
public
comment.
E
H
I
Thank
you:
okay,
I'm,
a
real
estate
broker
and
I'm
against
Culper
based.
J
K
M
Yes,
Hospital
from
a
horseshoe
Urban
Confluence
we're
going
to
have
the
Felon
statue
removed.
You
know
in
a
few
weeks
that's
going
to
that's
going
to
cause.
You
know
a
kind
of
a
a
break
in
in
the
cohesiveness
of
the
city.
You
know
there's
going
to
be
this
side
in
that
side.
M
What
happened?
There
was
just
it
needed
to
happen
publicly.
It
wasn't
stated
clearly
what
the
actual
reasons
were
historically
and
I
was
disappointed
about
that,
but
nonetheless,
it's
going
to
be
removed
in
that
that
is
just
that
it
be
removed.
It
shouldn't
be
reflected
in
the
character
of
the
city,
something
that
is
associated
with
decapitation
and
Peter
Burnett,
all
the
other
cast
of
characters
that
comprise
California
history.
M
With
that
said,
the
first
place
where
the
Felon
statue
was
going
to
be
placed
was
there
at
Cesar
Chavez
park,
and
so
there
was
issues
not
only
with
with
what
it
represented,
but
the
fact
that
it
was
going
to
be
placed
there
at
the
park
and
I
just
don't
want
to
see
the
statue
be
removed,
and
then
this
caused
even
more
dissension
with
the
city,
because
there's
never
like
a
point
of
like
killing
for
the
city,
because
something
like
this
itself
gets
introduced
into
the
mix,
and
it
constantly
keeps
the
city
divided
constantly,
and
so
it's
in
it's
in
that
vein
that
I'm
that
I'm
making
this
request,
because
not
a
whole
lot
of
people
go
to
these
meetings.
M
F
Hi
Blair
Beekman
I
wanted
to
comment
on
item
2.7
that
will
be
on
the
agenda,
that
is,
about
a
continuance
of
sea
level.
Well,
an
extension.
F
The
proclamation
of
existence
of
local
emergency
by
60
days
for
the
threat
of
high
water
flows
and
flooding
remaining
in
in
San
Jose
is
this
related
to
sea
level
rise
issues
and
I
mean
if
it
is
a
it's
a
it's
a
subject
that
I
know
you
guys
are
aware
of
you
talk
about
internally,
but
it's
a
subject
that
doesn't
make
it
isn't
like
regular,
open
public
comment
and
I
really
wish
it
can
be
or
I
mean
I,
don't
I
don't
want
to
be
overdoing
it,
but
just
that
it
can
be
really
just
a
kind
of
a
regular
part
of
our
process
and
we
keep
it
kind
of
hidden.
F
We
don't
want
to
talk
about
it
and
I
really
wish
we
can
make
it
an
open
subject
matter
and
that
we
can
address
the
future
of
you
know
real
estate
development
in
District,
four
and
five
district,
four
and
three
and
one
I
guess
you
know
those
things
can
still
take
place.
F
We
can
still
talk
about
those
things
we
just
have
to
learn
that
balance
and
I
I
good
luck
to
yourselves
with
these
sort
of
issues
and
a
real,
serious
sea
level
rise
issues
that
are
happening,
that
we
just
need
to
politely
talk
about.
Thank
you.
N
D
N
D
The
thank
you
all
right,
we'll
vote
on
that.
H
Before
we
start,
this
is
the
time
for
those
people
who
are
online.
To
raise
your
hand
if
you
wanted
to
talk
about
the
Copa
issue,.
D
Thank
you
again,
a
9
30
closed
Session,
1,
30,
Open,
Session
and
no
evening
session,
scheduled
on
pages
starting
on
page
six.
We
have
our
consent
calendar.
D
So,
let's
before
we
go
to
public
comment,
I'll,
let
council
member
Ortiz
comment
on
his
memo.
That's
also
part
of
this
item
and
then
we'll
go
to
public
combat.
O
Thank
you
chair.
Thank
you
to
my
colleagues
on
the
rules
committee
for
the
opportunity
to
join
you
all
today.
I
share
my
deepest
gratitude
to
the
staff
at
the
housing
department
for
removing
Copa
to
where
it
is
today.
I
also
want
to
recognize
the
members
of
the
community
who
are
here
today,
speaking
in
support
of
actions
to
defend
their
families
and
their
community
members.
O
After
a
two-year
and
a
multitude
of
Technical
and
Community
advisory
work,
a
plethora
of
feedback
and
comments
and
multiple
Community
workshops,
two
major
themes
continued
to
be
heard
from
what
my
perspective
and
the
perspectives
of
the
community
interpreted
and
one
is
that
preservation
efforts
need
to
be
furthered
here
in
the
city
of
San
Jose,
and
the
other
is
that
there
may
need
to
be
more
work
done
by
the
city
and
its
Partners
to
find
the
most
appropriate
set
of
solutions
to
achieve
that
goal.
O
D
E
P
These
things
are
always
Too
Tall,
how
you
doing
Gabriel
Hernandez
with
the
Cesar
pueda
Collective,
want
to
thank
council
member
Ortiz
for
the
memo
and
I'm,
asking
that
the
the
committee
chair
or
and
the
the
committee
defer
the
Copa
item,
I.
Think
when
I
heard
the
conversations
at
council
members
police
committee
around
you
know
how
it's
being
construed,
how
it's
being
talked
about,
whether
we
should
tax
measure
e
and
it
it
it's
just.
It
seems
very
confused,
especially
for
the
newer
council
members.
P
I
would
like
that
opportunity
and
the
community
would
like
that
opportunity
to
have
those
discussions
with
you.
I
think
we're
not
confused
about
Power
and
money,
we're
asking
for
a
lane
to
be
able
to
participate
in
the
real
estate
industry
and
clearly,
there's
pushback
on
that
and
that's
fine.
But
again
when
we
begin
to
talk
about
racial,
social
and
economic
equity
and
and
these
types
of
things
again.
P
It's
these
types
of
meetings
and
these
types
of
votes
that
lay
out
those
kind
of
parameters
and
and
we'll
be
humbled,
sometimes
by
those
and
so
I
again
I'm
asking
that
you
defer
the
Copa
item
so
that
we
can
have
those
conversations
with
the
new
council
members,
I'd
love
to
have
conversations
I.
Think
even
you,
council,
member
Foley,
talked
about
a
list
of
things
that
you
have
around
Coppa
and
I
want
to
know
those
answers
that
the
housing
department
has
responded
back
because
I
don't
think
it's
a
very
difficult
process.
P
It's
it's
a
lane
for
poor
people
to
have
you
know
people
talking
about
housing
as
if
you
know
affordable,
housing's
the
same
as
making
money
off
of
real
estate
and
and
it's
two
different
worlds-
the
FI,
the
funding
that
we're
talking
about
and
that
we're
trying
to
acquire.
And
then
even
this
whole
craziness
around
non-profits
rcd
and
the
number
of
those
developers
are
non-profits
and
they're.
Very
good
and
they've
built
some
beautiful
buildings
in
the
city,
and
so
I
would
just
like
that
opportunity
for.
Q
My
name
is
Olivier
Ortiz
I
live
in
District
5..
We
ordered
to
support
council
member
Peter
Ortiz
memo
requesting
a
defer
of
Copa
ahead
of
the
April
25th
city
council
agenda.
San
Jose
has
made
a
strides
in
many
areas,
but
lacks
the
preservation,
ecosystem,
Center
and
policies,
and
programs
aim
of
acquiring
and
really
be
hitting
sources
of
persisting
housing
stocks.
Q
Council
members
have
spoke
about
new
construction
over
preservation,
yet
ignore
the
high
cost
of
new
construction
and
the
governmental
impact
council
members
have
expressed
that
as
newly
elected
officials,
they
require
more
time
to
learn
more
about
affordable
housing
and
displacement
and
preservation
of
which
Corp
is
the
key
is
Charity.
We
should
postpone
the
bull
to
Grant
the
council
enough
time
to
become
familiar
with
the
policy
so
that
they
can
make
a
more
informed
decision
in
order
for
answers
to
administrator
to
truly
flourish.
Q
Intentional
steps
must
be
taken
to
ensure
that
we
as
a
city
are
building
our
out
of
preservation
infrastructure
in
the
middle
of
a
historic
housing,
crisis,
storage
and
homeless
homelessness.
Crisis.
San
Jose
cannot
ignore
the
call
to
explore
the
steps
necessary
to
build
a
robust
preservation
strategy
for
our
most
impacted
Community.
We
urge
you
to
support
Council
council
member
Peter
Ortiz
memo.
Thank
you.
L
I
would
like
to
urge
the
committee
to
support
council
member
Ortiz's
memo
requesting
a
deferral
of
Copa
ahead
of
the
April
25th
city
council
meeting
a
few
years
ago.
The
council
took
a
huge
step
in
initiating
its
vision
for
addressing
displacement
in
our
city,
and
now
we
need
to
see
that
Vision
to
completion
as
Olivia
the
speaker
before
me
mentioned
newly
elected
council
members
have
expressed
that
they
require
more
time
to
learn
more
about
affordable
housing,
anti-displacement
and
preservation,
of
which
Coppa
is
a
key
strategy.
L
Therefore,
we
should
postpone
the
vote
to
Grant
the
council
enough
time
to
become
familiar
with
the
policy
so
that
they
can
make
a
more
informed
decision
in
order
for
anti-displacement
strategies
to
truly
flourish.
Intentional
steps
must
be
taken
to
ensure
that
we
as
a
city
are
building
out
a
preservation
infrastructure,
as
we
are
in
the
middle
of
a
historic
housing
shortage
in
homelessness
crisis.
San
Jose
cannot
ignore
the
call
to
explore
the
steps
necessary
to
build
a
robust
preservation
strategy
for
our
most
impacted
communities.
R
Hello,
my
name
is
Maria
Aguero
I
am
a
resident
of
District.
6.
I
have
been
working
with
the
community
for
a
very
long
time,
and
I
would
like
to
urge
you
guys
to
accept
Peter
Ortiz's
memo.
You
have
heard
from
multiple
community
and
it
seems
like
there
is
still
some
confusion
about
how
this
would
help
and
benefit
your
community
and
I
urge
you
to
help
us
take
that
time,
so
that
we
can
all
understand
how
this
would
help
this
preservation
of
your
community
and
help
us
stay
here
in
San
Jose.
S
Okay,
yeah
thanks
hi,
my
name
is
Oscar.
I
live
in
District
10..
Do
your
job,
for
you
had
enough
time
to
look
at
the
Copa
Forum
to
look
at
the
research
online
that
the
city
council?
Actually,
this
Housing
Authority
actually
has,
and
yet
you
can't
it
takes
more
time,
and
you
just
want
to
kill
this
policy.
S
You
have
the
time
your
job
is
to
research
to
learn
yet
I
haven't
seen
you
at
the
Copa
forums
and
now
we're
debating
a
real
estate
interest,
deciding
that
this
poly
is
going
to
get
killed.
Wow
folks
in
the
community
are
being
displaced,
while
families
are
working
two
to
three
jobs
to
pay
the
rent
wow.
These
real
estate
interests
are
controlling
our
city
council
and
you
have
the
audacity
to
come
and
tell
us.
Oh
there
we
need.
We
need
enough
time
to
research.
What
were
you
doing
for
this
whole
time?
S
S
My
tax
dollars
are
not
paying
your
income
to
just
decide
what
the
private
interest,
while
their
families
outside
talk,
being
displaced.
Well,
all
of
you
just
meet
with
Council
real
estate
folks
and
that's
your
main
interest.
Let's
be
honest
about
it.
There's
the
community
members
I've
been
working
on
this
for
about
three
years
and
every
time
we
get
kicked
down
the
can.
Oh,
we
don't
have
time
it's
not
a
right
time.
S
T
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
We
shouldn't
delay
we've
studied
for
years.
We've
had
public
comment
for
years.
We
can't
go
back
and
stop
things
every
time
the
council
changes.
The
council
has
the
time
access
to
the
staff
can
hear
the
comments.
It
should
be
moved
forward
in
a
vote
taken
and
a
decision
made.
T
T
So
please
move
it
forward.
Let's
get
this
decision
decided,
so
we
don't
spend
more
time
on
it
and
it's
interesting
that
people
are
talking
delaying
it.
When
I
understand
from
what
councilman
Ortiz
says
is
he
wants
to
postpone
it?
Definitely,
let's
get
a
vote,
get
it
done,
make
a
decision
and
then
move
forward.
Thank
you.
U
U
Of
the
committee,
my
name
ISRO,
director
of
Housing
and
transportation
Justice
and
working
Partnerships
USA,
we
are
standing
alongside
our
Coalition
Partners
to
express
our
support
for
councilman
Ortiz's
memo
so
that
our
city
can
take
more
time
to
look
into
preservation
opportunities
at
a
deeper
level.
Preservation
is
a
major
pillar
in
Housing,
Solutions
and
preservation
goes
beyond
one
policy.
There's
a
real
need
to
work
on
a
growing
pool
of
non-profits
equipped
to
preserve
an
acquired
property.
So
there
are
more
opportunities
for
permanently
affordable
homes
and
stable
communities.
U
The
robust
and
intentional
Outreach
with
stakeholders,
community
and
other
agencies.
There
should
be
a
clearer
path
on
how
to
build
Dallas,
San,
Jose's
preservation
infrastructure
at
the
scale
needed
to
reverse
many
displacement
trends.
Residents
of
the
city
deserve
the
opportunity
to
live
in
a
safe,
stable
and
affordable
home
through
preserving
existing
sources
of
affordable
housing.
We
can
reach
those
goals.
U
H
I,
haven't
all
I
have
Armando
or
Jordy.
Can
you
guys
please
wanna
whoever's
active
right
now?
Can
you
translate
back
or
her
okay?
Yes,
we
can
hear
you
now.
V
Por
favor
in
foreign.
V
X
X
Y
Hi,
my
name
is
Sandy
Perry
I'm,
a
board
member
of
South
Bay
Community,
Land,
Trust
I'm,
also,
president
of
the
affordable
housing
network
of
Santa,
Clara
County
and
I
like
to
Echo
the
other
speakers
asking
for
a
postponement
of
this
issue,
so
that
we
can
have
time
to
educate
the
Council
on
the
benefits
of
not
only
Copa,
but
preservation
in
general
preservation
is
one
of
the
three
p's
just
about
every
Housing
Organization
in
the
state.
Y
If
not
the
entire
country
Advocates
a
three
p's
approach
to
the
solving
the
housing
crisis
and
San
Jose
simply
can't
afford
to
not
not
go
forward
on
the
question
of
preservation,
in
particular
because
in
the
past
we
don't
have
a
an
effective
preservation
sector
here
in
San
Jose.
What
we
need
is
a
we
need
to
build
up,
what's
called
an
infrastructure
which
includes
not
only
Community
Development
corporations,
Community
Land
trusts,
other
non-profit
developers,
but
also
Partnerships,
with
financers
financing
agencies
and
with
the
city
to
press
this
forward.
Y
Y
Z
Yes,
hello,
my
name
is
Gustavo
Flores
I,
believe
on
District
Five
I've
been
living
in
San
Jose
for
more
than
three
23
years.
The
reason
of
my
participation
today
is
to
support,
and
please
ask
you
to
support
Peter
Ortiz
memorandum.
Z
The
reason
is
because
we
believe
the
city
council
members
need
more
time
to
learn
more
about
housing,
displacement
and
preservation,
in
which
Copa
can
be
a
lot
of
help.
I
think
we
all
know
we
live
in
a
crisis
in
San
Jose.
This
is
a
critical
crisis
because
we
leave
it
so
there's
many
people
without
housing
in
many
people,
this
place
in
San
Jose
are
already
be
in
this
place
in
this
city.
So
please
we
need
you
to.
Please
help
us
and
support
Peter
Ortiz
memorandum.
AA
Hi,
my
name
is
Diane
Cooper
definite
is
a
bad
policy,
it
will
harm
housing
providers,
homeowners
and
the
renters
as
a
whole
in
San,
Jose
and
Eva
eventually
crash
housing
market
in
San
Jose.
During
the
discussion
about
the
Copa
for
more
than
two
years,
people
gave
numerous
reasons
and
comments
why
someone
said
does
not
need
copper,
it's
time
for
city
council
to
take
the
need
and
make
decisions
how
to
move
forward
no
need
to
indefinitely
for
Copa
somebody.
A
lot
of
people
said
they
need
more
time.
AA
We
don't
understand
how
many
more
times
you
need
several
years.
You
know.
Samosa
has
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
issues.
Our
leaders
need
a
time
and
effort
to
focus
on
the
issues
that
can
really
solve.
The
problem.
Definitely
is
not
the
answer.
Please
don't
waste
your
time
and
effort
on
Copa,
please
move
forward
on
August,
April
24th
to
vote
to
on
Copa.
AA
AB
Good
afternoon,
council
members,
my
name
is
tal
I'm,
a
resident
of
D4
and
I'm,
also
a
staff
member
of
the
South
Bay
Community
Land
Trust.
Over
the
past
few
months,
I've
met
with
many
of
your
offices
and
your
staff
members
and
we've
been
hearing
a
lot
that
the
council,
as
newly
elected
officials,
need
more
time
to
understand,
preservation
and
the
three
p's
overall.
AB
So
I
really
request
that
to
accept
the
memorandum
from
council
member
Ortiz
and
defer
the
Copa
vote
to
give
these
new
the
newly
elected
officials
more
time
to
consider
preservation
as
a
really
important
element
in
dealing
with
the
affordable
housing
crisis.
Thank
you.
E
AC
Okay,
hi
everybody,
my
name
is
Gustavo
Gonzalez
I
was
born
in
San
Jose
Rosa
family
in
San,
Jose
and
I
built
a
business
in
San
Jose.
So
that
being
said,
let
me
start
off
by
saying
this.
Whole
thing
about
preservation
is
a
myth.
Why
is
it
a
myth,
because
these
properties
that
the
qnps
are
buying
are
low
income
housing
already
today,
they're?
AC
What
we
call
classy
buildings
in
San
Jose,
and
these
classy
buildings
are
located
in
areas
where
they
are
primarily
low-income
housing
and
these
properties
are
also
under
rent
control,
which
means
that
the
most
that
somebody
can
raise
rents
is
five
percent
I'm
going
to
give
you
me
as
an
example
I
own
a
six
unit.
My
average
rents
are
fifteen
hundred
dollars.
A
thousand
five
hundred,
the
most
that
I
can
raise.
My
rents
is
75
dollars.
AC
You
guys
that's
the
five
percent,
that's
going
to
be
affordable
housing
for
the
rest
of
the
life,
because
that's
just
the
way
it
is
so
whether
you
have
a
mom
and
pop
like
me,
owning
it
or
a
qmp.
It's
going
to
be
low
income,
so
you're
not
preserving
anything.
When
you
buy
those
buildings,
but
the
most
important
thing
that
I'm
upset
about
the
most
is
the
fact
that
this
Copa
program
does
not
add
one,
not
one
affordable
housing
unit
or
one
unit
period,
and
that's
what
we
need
to
make
things
better
for
everybody.
AC
We
need
more
housing,
that's
the
way
we're
going
to
get
out
of
this
disastrous
mess.
So
let's
just
be
clear
about
that.
I
have
been
at
all
of
these
meetings.
I've
listened
to
the
qnps
I
haven't
heard
one
q
and
P
say:
I
need
more
time
to
buy
an
apartment
building,
which
is
what
Copa
does
it
gives
more
time.
So
why
are
we
even
doing
this
I
don't
understand.
I
Hello,
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
okay,
I'm
a
real
estate
broker,
I'm
against
copper,
based
on
my
30
years
experience
making
a
living
selling
houses
first
in
my
30
years
of
work.
I
have
helped
many
tenants
become
homeowners
and
I
have
never
seen
any
willing
and
ready
buyers
discriminated
because
they
are
tenants.
Second
Culvert
will
actually
hurt
tenants.
It
claims
to
help,
as
the
majority
of
the
tenants
will
buy.
Residents
which
are
not
the
one
they
occupy
if
covert
is
through.
I
Tenant
will
have
to
unfairly
compete
against
tax
funding,
non-profits,
which
are
armed
with
other
people's
money
and
the
first
right
of
refusal,
making
it
even
more
difficult
for
tenants
to
become
homeowners.
In
conclusion,
covert
adds
more
red
tape,
more
expenses
and
more
time
in
an
otherwise
fair
and
transparent
process.
I
AD
Hello,
my
name
is
Andrea
Portillo
and
I
live
in
District.
Seven
I
am
the
organizing
and
policy
director
with
somos
Mayfair
I'm
here
to
urge
you
to
support
council
member
Peter
Ortiz's
memo
requesting
a
deferral
for
Copa
ahead
of
the
April
25th
City
council's
agenda.
AD
We
have
been
working
to
advance
anti-displacement
strategies
and
policies
for
years,
and
the
housing
crisis
is
a
very
complex
issue.
We
therefore
need
a
holistic
multi-prong
approach
to
address
the
issue
in
both
the
short
term
and
the
long
term.
Yes,
that
includes
production
of
new,
affordable
housing.
Yes,
that
includes
the
protection
of
tenants,
and,
yes,
that
includes
preservation
of
existing,
affordable
housing,
rehab
and
and
rehabbing
existing
affordable
apartment
can
cost
one-third
to
one
half
less
than
building
a
new
apartment.
Preservation
via
acquisition
provides
a
now
solution
that
prevents
displacement
and
addresses
an
urgent
need.
AD
Preservation,
proactively,
prevents
displacement
and
promotes
Community
stability
and
where
cooperatives,
Community,
Development
corporations
and
Community
Land
trusts
are
involved.
It
also
promotes
community
control
and
Pathways
to
ownership.
Preservation
also
offers
continuity
to
existing
tenants,
whereas
new
production
takes
years
to
develop.
Studies
have
pointed
out
that
the
most
immediate
driving
force
behind
displacement
is
not
just
the
lack
of
new
construction,
but
rather
the
process
where
unsubsidized
units
that
were
once
affordable
become
unaffordable
due
to
rent
creases.
AD
The
city
of
San
Jose
is
the
only
major
city
in
the
Bay
Area.
That
does
not
have
a
comprehensive
preservation
strategy.
We
are
not
building
enough,
affordable
housing
to
meet
the
need
and
we
are
losing
unsubsidized,
affordable
housing.
We
need
a
comprehensive
strategy
and
we
need
to
build
a
preservation
ecosystem
that
dresses
the
needs
of
our
most
impacted
communities.
In
order
to
do
this,
we
need
everybody
to
be
well
informed
and
knowledgeable
about
preservation
and
not
continue
to
use
talking
points
and
misinformation
that
is
spewed
by
special
interests.
AE
I'm
Mary
Helen
Jordy
resident
of
District
3
and
a
member
of
Sacred
Heart
housing
action
committee.
We
urge
your
support
of
council
member
Ortiz
memo
requesting
the
deferral
of
your
consideration
of
Copa
San
Jose
residents
and,
in
particular,
are
low
income
Family
and
Children,
and
Families
of
color
desperately
need
multiple,
innovative
solutions
that
increase
our
number
of
affordable
units
effectively.
AE
Utilizing
the
three
PS
of
production
protection
and
preservation,
preserving
pre-existing,
affordable
housing
stock
is
a
key
policy
that
prevents
displacement
and
promotes
Community
stability.
We
Believe
culpa
is
a
key,
effective
prevention
strategy
to
include
in
our
City's,
affordable
housing
preservation
infrastructure.
F
Hi
Well
Beekman.
It's
really
nice
to
hear
so
many
people
speak
to
rules
in
open
government
on
account
on
the
council
agenda
next
week
or
two
weeks
from
now.
Thank
you.
It's
just
it's
nice
to
hear.
I
wanted
to
speak
on
items
2.12
of
the
upcoming
agenda,
which
is
a
Santa
Clara,
County
Medical
Center
provision
for
sexual
assault,
forensic
exam
services
from
for
the
San
San
Jose
police
department.
F
That's
an
item
where
actually
the
peer
review
program
that
came
into
existence
after
the
George
Floyd
things,
that's
where
it
kind
of
ended
up.
Landing
is
working
on
domestic
violence
issues
and
with
the
medical
department
and
the
San
Jose
police
and
domestic
violence.
It
was
a
good
idea.
It
is
a
good
idea.
F
Can
we
talk
about
with
the
recent
sjpoa
things
to
possibly
reintroduce
a
more
straightforward
peer
review
program
for
the
sjpd?
That
I
think
really
needs
it
at
this
time.
We
really
need
to
consider
how
our
police
have
to
have
a
very
open
channel
of
communication
and
therapy
and
healing
that
can
address
a
lot
of
issues
and
help
in
a
lot
of
ways
that
I
hope
we're
now
more
wanting
to
look
into
at
this
time.
F
Good
luck
in
those
efforts
to
consider
it
and
to
weigh
in
on
the
topa
issues
a
bit
I'm
a
total
beginner
about
these
things,
not
very
knowledgeable,
but
I'm,
very
hopeful
in
what
toppa
can
do,
and
it
sounds
like
our
break
time.
Right
now
is
to
really
Gather
in
its
potential
for
our
future
and
we're
scared
of
that
potential
right
now,
I
think
we
have
a
way
to
develop
something
really
important
and
meaningful
and
I
hope
things
like
generational.
Passing
on
things
can
be
explained.
F
J
Okay,
when
my
name
is.
J
J
J
J
AF
Thank
you,
council
members
for
allowing
me
to
speak
today.
My
name
is
Anil
Babar
with
the
California
Apartment
Association
we've
had
two
years
to
study
oppa.
In
that
time,
we've
discovered
that
the
two
challenges
that
Copa
aims
to
address
Market
timeline,
which
states
that
there
isn't
enough
time
to
purchase
properties
as
false
we've
seen
that
there
is
plenty
of
time
on
built
into
the
system
to
for
non-profit,
to
adequately
compete
against
the
market.
The
other
issue
about
Market
transparency.
AF
We
found
that
in
last
year
alone,
there
were
over
300
multi-family
properties
that
equals
to
thousands
of
units
available
for
preservation.
If
the
money
was
available
today,
we've
also
discovered
that
the
funding
sources
that
housing
department
has
identified
for
acquiring
these
properties
is
unpredictable
and
that
the
track
record
for
Copa
policies
around
the
country
is
terrible.
Only
two
cities
in
the
last
40
years
have
adopted
any
kind
of
global
policy.
AF
What
that
two
years
of
study
has
this
is
determined
is
Copa
is
not
the
right
policy
for
San
Jose,
and
just
because
we've
identified
it
as
a
as
a
possible
solution
to
preservation
doesn't
mean
we
have
to
follow
through.
If
the
policy
is
bad
policy,
San
Jose
simply
cannot
afford
to
spend
any
more
time
on
a
fail
policy.
We
should
be
focusing
on
policies
at
ad
housing,
and
this
housing
department
should
be
focused
on
new
policies,
new
programs
that
actually
add
housing.
We
shouldn't
drag
our
feed
on
a
fail
policy
just
because
people
are
upset.
A
A
The
three
p's
is
a
framework
that
has
come
out
of
significant
discussion
and
research
and
engagement
really
within
the
region
and
and
now
around
the
state
and
nationally,
and
it
is
a
recognition
that
the
majority
of
low,
very
low
and
extremely
low
income,
households
in
San
Jose
live
in
the
private
Market
and
our
vulnerable
to
rent
increases
which
lead
to
displacement
and
are
also
vulnerable
to
Redevelopment
of
properties
that
are
otherwise
more
affordable
in
the
private
market,
and
we've
talked
a
lot
about
increased
rents
and
the
need
to
create
controls
and
restrictions
that
allow
communities
to
be
empowered
to
ensure
that
that
people
aren't
displaced.
A
We've
spoken
a
little
bit
less
about
the
fact
that
our
neighboring
city
of
Mountain
View
has
seen
a
demolition
of
a
thousand
units
over
the
last
decade
and
has
built
slightly
fewer
than
a
thousand
units
of
new,
affordable
housing.
So
the
importance
of
preservation
and
preservation
Solutions
is
something
that's
not
going
to
go
away.
This
has
been
a
difficult
process,
but
it
deserves
additional
discussion.
M
Yes,
also
from
a
horseshoe
I
agree
with
councilman
Ortiz's
memo
in
spirit.
However,
there
is
not
been
a
properly
identifiable
quantification
of
the
impacts
of
redlining
from
1939
till
today.
Until
that
happens,
we
really
can't
clearly
articulate
what
it
is
that
we're
looking
at
and
what
it
is
that
we're
facing
now
the
Chicano
Community
I
identify
as
people
that
can
trace
their
lineages
to
the
1940
and
1950
census.
M
This
is
this
is
critically
important
to
Center
that,
within
the
context
of
this
conversation,
once
we
have
done
that,
then
we
can
move
on
and
really
articulate
what
it
is.
That
needs
to
be
done.
But
until
that
is
done,
we
can
taxing
a
bond
measure
which
attacks
every
single
Redline
home
in
this
city
and
then
we'll
be
getting
somewhere.
AG
Hello,
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
yeah,
my
yeah,
my
name
is
Iris.
The
the
residential
district
is
the
one
I
attended.
The
council
meeting
on
March
7th
and
March
27th
I
learned
a
lot
from
that
meeting.
Three
council
members
already
gave
the
strong
and
clear
points
were
against
the
problem:
I'm
impressed
that
thanks
studied
a
lot
of
materials
and
have
detailed
information.
AG
So
far,
say
safety
has
spent
5
million
on
this
project
and
maybe
spend
more
up
to
10
million
20
million
to
2024
and
the
Callback
takes
tax
money
Seiki,
because
measures
e
and
another
sold
affordable
and
another
sold
affordability,
the
council
member
Foley
garponda
Ace
Koba.
Now
the
increase
the
house
number
on
the
market.
Therefore,
now
the
sold
the
problem
now
the
soda,
affordable
apartment
either
stupendous
huge
money
and
the
effort
on
somewhere
else,
an
affordable
house
and
a
mobile
house
is
really
solution
to
make
the
stronger
Society
safety
better.
AG
So
the
more
time
we've
already
been
there
a
couple
years,
the
more
time
the
more
effort
is
wasted
more.
Please
stop
a
cardboard
right
now
and
spend
the
time
and
the
effort
in
the
best
solution,
affordable
house
under
mobile
homes
is
really
solution
and
make
our
chances
City
better
and
better.
Thank
you.
AH
AH
AH
AI
AJ
Hello
good
afternoon,
my
name
is
Miss
Ryan
Mendoza
and
I'm,
a
resident
of
district
7
here
in
South,
Jose,
first
generation
immigrant,
so
I'm
here
to
call
in
in
support
of
council
members,
Peter
Ortiz
memo
requesting
the
refer
deferral
of
Copa
for
April
25th,
cancel
agenda,
you
know,
I,
just
I
just
want
to
say:
I
have
hope
the
you
guys
do
the
right
decision.
This
is
about
Community.
You
know
getting
the
opportunity
okay
to
stay
in
San
Jose.
AJ
You
know,
I
want
to
remind
you
that
you
got
elected
by
community
members,
not
by
estate
holders,
okay
and
by
special
interest
people
like
the
people
that
sell
homes.
Okay,
you
owe
this
to
the
community
and
you
have
to
put
Community
First.
Okay,
I
wish
I
wish
that
you
find
it
in
your
heart
and
know,
like
I
said
it
before
in
the
meeting.
Okay,
it's
not
about
the
grapes,
it's
about
the
people
and
that's
what
it's
about.
This
is
an
opportunity
for
us.
AJ
I
want
you
guys
to
put
yourselves
in
our
positions
and
understand
you
know.
I
wish
my
landlord
would
raise
my
rent
75
dollars.
Okay,
he
raised
it
almost
150
dollars.
That's
why
I
needed
to
move
from
the
place
that
I
was
yeah.
Okay.
Now
it's
85
dollars
a
year,
okay
and
I'm,
not
complaining
because
I'm
blessed,
but
I
also
the
same
way.
I'm
blessed
I
want
my
community
to
be
blessed.
So
please,
please
support
their
deferral
of
the
period
Ortiz
memo,
okay
and
thank
you.
AK
AK
It's
unfair
for
the
public
sellers
buyers,
as
well
as
the
renters
Copa
gave
the
so-called
non-profit
organizations
unfair
competitive
advantage
to
snap
up
properties
at
a
discount
which
is
unfair
to
the
sellers,
to
prevent
displacement
which
encourage
home
ownership
and
let
more
renters
to
buy
their
own
home
with
Copa.
Such
buyers
will
face
unpleased
presidential
competition
from
those
non-profit
organizations.
AL
Hi,
this
is
Mina
young
I'm,
a
single
family
house
owner.
My
son
is
working
in
the
Silicon
Valley
and
a
renter
and
I
think
that
Copa
is
very
bad
for
renters.
Please
outright
reject
it.
It
has
not
shown
any
presentable,
favorable
data
for
the
few
years
that
you
know
that
San
Jose
has
been
doing
studying
and
other
cities
as
well
and
supposedly
40.
AL
Something
years
of
experience
has
not
shown
much
promise
and
in
the
meantime,
you
are
really
discouraging
rental
housing
Supply,
because
people
are
watching
you
If,
the
sellers
are
going
to
sell
the
house.
They
will
not
rent
it
out.
You
know,
so
you
are
really
hurting
the
renters
that
and
and
reducing
their
options
of
finding
housing
so
and
in
the
future.
AL
They
will
not
invest
in
the
housing
because
they
will
want
to
go
to
the
the
trouble
of
having
to
compete
with
some
favor
organizations
and
and
also
make
it
very
extensive
process
for
them
and
go
to
bureaucracy
and
additional
costs,
so
that
will
be
a
nightmare
for
future
owners.
So
please
reject
copara
outright
and
do
not
delay
it
anymore.
Thank
you.
AL
AM
AM
K
Hello:
okay,
now
this
is
Ken,
I'm
I,
think
it's
a
bad
policy
and
yeah,
because
it's
not
creating
any
single
one
of
the
property
for
renting
and
it's
waste
tax
dollars
with
time
and
with
the
all
the
efforts.
K
It
also
hurts
the
housing
transaction
because
it's
already
been
two
years
and
it
has
involving
so
many
processing
and
it's
tedious
for
both
parties,
for
the
owners
or
for
the
renters,
and
we
need
to
so
I
think
we
need
to
vote
this
policy
down
to
to
save
time
and
save
money
tax
dollars.
Thank
you.
AN
Hi
Martha
O'connell
speaking
as
an
individual.
What
I
have
been
listening
to
for
the
last
40
minutes
is
exactly
why
I
am
opposed
to
the
Ortiz
memo
this.
This
should
not
be
a
discussion
of
Copa
folks.
It
is
whether
or
not
to
delay
the
vote.
That
is
what
we
should
be
talking
about,
but
instead
we're
getting
the
same
arguments
that
I've
been
hearing
for
the
last
two
years
enough
already,
the
mobile
home
park
designation
started
in
2015
and
has
been
put
off
supposedly
we're
getting
it
this
year.
AN
That's
eight
years
the
opt-in
attempt
to
change
the
rent,
Control
Ordinance
three
and
a
half
years
of
wasted
time
and
staff
resources.
Three
and
a
half
years
later,
it
was
voted
down,
be
excruciatingly
long
revision
of
the
conversion,
ordinance
of
San
Jose
once
again
years
of
work.
Once
again,
this
thing
was
voted
down
with
due
respect
to
the
new
council
members.
When
I
was
appointed
to
the
Housing
Commission
I
did
my
homework
I
didn't
ask
that
votes
were
put
off
so
I
could
come
up
to
speed.
AN
I
spent
my
personal
time
coming
up
to
speed
you
guys
that
ran
for
office.
You
knew
this
was
coming
up.
You
had
plenty
of
time
before
you
took
office
to
research
it
and
for
the
two
new
appointed
council
members,
you
you
you
also
or
should
have
known.
This
was
on
the
radar,
so
please
do
not
delay.
We've
had
enough
delays.
Thank
you
very
much.
AO
Chair
Cohen,
council
members.
Thank
you
so
much
for
the
opportunity
to
speak.
This
is
Gina
Azari,
with
the
Santa
Clara
County
Association
of
Realtors.
Just
calling
to
ask
you
please
to
not
delay
this
I
know
that
the
memo
is
is
well
intentioned,
I'm,
sure
that
that's
the
case,
but
this
issue
is,
is
wrong
on
so
many
levels,
it's
absolutely
unnecessary
when
asked.
If
the
nonprofits
had
had
any
problems,
the
housing
department,
purchasing
properties,
the
housing
department
said
no,
because
they
hadn't
yet
had
the
funding
in
place
to
be
able
to
purchase
property.
AO
There
is
no
issue
and
there
will
never
be
an
issue
with
these
non-profits
purchasing
rental,
residential
housing.
That's
not
a
problem,
but
beyond
that.
This
measure
is
disrespectful
to
the
all
the
thousands
of
property
owners
and
housing
providers,
rental
housing
providers
in
our
city,
it's
disrespectful
because
it
puts
the
qualified
nonprofits
ahead
of
them
in
line
it's
disrespectful
because
it
layers
another
burden
on
top
of
these
mom
and
pop
housing
providers
that
have
taken
burden
after
burden
after
burden
in
the
last
five
or
six
years.
AO
It's
disrespectful
because
it
doesn't
take
into
consideration
that
our
our
property
owners
have
true
and
honest
and
honorable
and
generous
relationships
with
their
tenants,
and
there
are
Bad
actors
in
every
single
industry.
Yes,
there
are
Bad
actors
in
every
industry,
including
this
industry,
but
this
is
not
the
solution.
There
are
problems
that
are
so
significant
in
the
city
of
San
Jose.
We
have
a
housing,
Supply
crisis
in
the
Bay
Area.
We
have
a
homelessness
crisis
in
San
Jose,
and
this
measure
does
nothing
to
help
our
disadvantaged,
our
homeless,
our
low
income,
our
very
low
income.
AO
AP
Hello,
so
I'm
a
registered
voter
from
the
district,
four
and
I
also
participated
in
the
meeting
on
March
27th,
so
I'm,
a
first
generation
of
immigrant
I'm,
also
a
homeowner
and
has
been
maybe
instant
in
combating
for
over
20
years.
I'm
calling
to
strongly
oppose
the
Copa
as
I
did
last
time
and
also
strongly
opposed
indefinitely.
Different
Copa
Copa
is
wasting
San
Jose's
money
and
resource.
We
are
the
taxpayers
and
I.
AP
Don't
want
to
see
this
going
on
anymore,
so
start
with
the
verb
Copa
and
stop
wasting
San
Jose's
money
and
resource
spend
our
money
in
something
more
meaningful,
more
useful
and
can
directly
benefit
the
residents
and
do
not
put
this
money
to
benefit
the
so-called
non-profit
organization,
which
has
special
interest
and
try
to
manipulate
the
housing
market.
So
this
is
my
opinion
and
I
want
my
representer
from
District
4
to
hear
my
opinion.
Thank
you.
AQ
E
H
H
AR
Hi,
my
name
is
Sandra
Weber
I
am
a
realtor.
AR
You
know,
I've
attended
Copa
meetings
as
well
as
housing
provider
meetings,
trying
to
hear
different
perspectives
and
Coppa
as
well
as
indecision
will
cause
more
displacement,
not
less
as
fear
of
increased
restrictions
and
bureaucracy
will
drive
mom
and
pop
housing
providers
to
sell
properties
causing
more
stress
and
uncertainty
for
renters
and
the
council.
Members
at
the
cedc
level
obviously
studied
voter
himself.
You
know
he
apologized
for
his
eyes
being
read.
He
was
up
very
late.
AR
AR
You
know
when
you
actually
look
at
it
and
tell
additional
housing
stock
is
added.
Vouchers
will
help
the
most
people
in
a
timely
manner.
That's
what
we
really
need.
We
need
there's
so
many
people
who
need
help.
Let's,
let's
look
at
the
best
way
to
help
the
most
people,
instead
of
a
few
with
the
qnps
and
so
I
asked
just
respectfully
move
Copa
to
a
full
Council
vote
on
April
25th.
Thank
you.
V
AQ
You
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
oh
okay,
hi,
my
name
is
Mona.
I
am
calling
strongly
opposed,
copper
and
also
a
poster
idea
of
make
it
put
it
indefinitely
Copa.
We
are
trying
to
do
the
study
forward
like
last
several
years
and
money
already
spent
the
five
million
dollars
and
there's
more
it'll,
be
20
million
dollar
more
in
2024..
If
we
continue
this
past,
so
I
did
a
simple
math
one
million
dollars.
AQ
You
know
if
we
give
a
400
for
low
or
extremely
low
income
household
400
a
month,
and
then
you
know
for
me:
for
million
dollar
there
will
be
a
2500
people
can
get.
Families
can
get
help
five
million.
That's
a
12
500
household
for
25,
20
Millions,
you
content,
that's
about!
Sixty
thousand
family
can
get
help.
So
please
stop
wasting
the
money
and
vote.
You
know
down
to
Copa
and
helping
people
really
deserve
and
not
wasting
money
for
all
these
bureaucracies.
Thank
you.
AS
Yes,
hi
dear
council
members,
my
name
is
Victor
in
District
8.
I'm,
calling
to
urge
all
the
council
members
to
reject
this
court
is
a
proposal
to
defer
the
proposal
and
bring
this
to
the
full
council
meeting
on
April
25th
I've
been
through
two
years
of
testimonials.
We've
cleared
so
many
reasonings
that
the
Copa
is
a
bad
policy.
It's
not
good
for
the
renter.
It's
not
good
for
the
landlord
either
and
it
is
now
is
only
beneficial.
AS
A
few
non-socalled
non-profit
organizations
which
you
know
is
our
special
interest
group
and
they
just
disguise
under
the
name
of
non-profit,
so
I
urge
all
the
council
members
to
vote
no
on
this
proposal
and
move
forward
and
to
defeat
the
Coba.
That's
a
concentrate
on
effort
and
resource
to
something
more
useful
for
to
solve
the
housing
policy.
Thank
you.
AT
AT
So
Studies
have
pointed
out
that
most
immediate
driving
force
behind
displacement
is
not
just
the
lack
of
new
construction,
which
is
a
very
high
cost
of
new
construction.
But
rather
the
process
where
unsubsidized
units
that
are
were
once
affordable
became
unaffordable
due
to
rent
increases
between
2012
and
2017.
The
Bay
Area
actually
lost
32
000
units
of
affordable
housing
a
year
in
this
manner.
AT
In
order
for
anti-displacement
strategies
to
truly
flourish,
intentional
steps
must
be
taken
to
ensure
that
we
as
a
city
are
building
out
a
preservation
infrastructure
in
the
middle
of
a
historic
housing
shortage
and
homelessness
crisis.
San
Jose
cannot
ignore
the
call
to
explore
the
steps.
Unnecessary
I
mean
sorry
steps
necessary
to
build
a
robust
prevention
strategy
for
most
impacted
communities.
We
urge
you
to
support
council
member
Peter
Ortiz's
memo
as
a
community
member
I
work
with
families
on
a
day-to-day
basis
and
I'm.
AT
It's
not
it's
not
a
matter
of
approving
something
or
not
it's
about
your
humanity,
and
you
guys,
like
have
other
people
have
said
before
you
guys,
have
been
voted
in
by
our
community
members.
Now,
please
do
right
by
them.
Thank
you.
E
AK
Can
you
hear
me?
Yes?
Yes,
my
name
is
Emily
I'm
in
district.
One
I
think
Koba
is
a
bad
and
unfair
policy.
You
need
to
think
about
it.
In
the
long
run
it
will
damage
the
economic
and
the
community
and
it
it
just
wastes
of
money
and
resource.
Why
don't
you
use
this
money
to
build
more
affordable
home
or
history?
Told
us
more
government
interfere
only
create
more
problems.
It
is
bad
for
cellular,
buyer
and
renter.
It
only
benefit
those
so-called
non-for-profit
organization.
E
H
AU
Hello:
okay.
Thank
you.
Good
afternoon,
council
members
I'm,
a
resident
district
attorney
have
been
attending
the
Copa
meetings
for
over
10
years
or
two
years.
Sorry
I
strongly
encourage
you
to
vote
no
on
the
memorandum
from
council
member
Ortiz
to
postponed
about
on
Copa
Copa
is
not
the
right
policy
to
protect
displacement.
AU
There
are
other,
more
effective
and
cost-efficient
ways
to
protect
tenants
from
displacement,
including
vouchers
that
can
help
thousands
of
tenants
not
just
to
select
few
there's
already
a
very
successful
process
for
these
corporate
non-profits
to
purchase
multi-presidential
properties
that
has
been
in
place
for
over
10
years.
As
I
speak
to
you
right
now,
there
are
67
multi-unit
properties
available
in
San
Jose
for
these
corporate
nonprofits
to
purchase
through
the
multiple
listing
service.
Many
of
these
are
located
in
areas.
Copa
has
identified
as
undergoing
displacement.
These
properties
have
been
on
the
market
for
over
75
days.
AU
In
the
past
five
years,
there
have
been
over
a
thousand
sales
of
multi-inter
property,
so
our
multiple
use
listing
service
in
the
past
five
years
have
also
been
over
300
multi-unit
properties
listed
for
sale,
which
did
not
sell.
These
listings
were
available
for
sale
on
average
for
over
70
days,
these
corporate
non-profits
had
every
opportunity
to
purchase
these
properties,
which
they
didn't.
Many
of
these
properties
are
also
located
in
the
areas
Copa
has
identified.
That
Sarah
is
going
undergoing
displacement.
AU
There
are
ample
opportunities
for
corporate
nonprofits
investors
and
end
users
to
purchase
residential
and
Commercial
multi-unit
properties
in
the
city
of
San
Jose.
There's
no
need
to
implement
a
new,
unnecessary,
Citywide
Copa
program
that
will
burden
San,
Jose
property
owners
and
cost
the
city
millions
of
dollars.
I
urge
you
to
bring
Copa
the
city
council
for
vote
on
April
25th.
Thank
you.
E
AV
My
name
is
William
Shea
I'm,
the
president
of
the
Santa
Clara
County
Association
of
Realtors
I,
respectfully
request
that
you
vote
against
postponing
the
final
decision
on
Copa
two
and
a
half
years,
a
million
dollars
in
taxpayer.
Money
and
tremendous
amounts
of
time
and
energy
have
been
spent
on
both
sides
of
this
issue.
The
market
interference
created
by
Copa
and
property
rights.
AV
A
bridge
by
copper,
are
absolutely
unnecessary.
The
corporate
housing
nonprofits
have
acknowledged
they've,
never
encountered
a
problem
purchasing
residential
property
because
to
this
point
their
problem
is
simple:
they
simply
don't
have
the
funding.
If
we
truly
want
to
preserve,
affordable
rental
housing.
Utilizing
housing
vouchers
is
the
only
viable
option.
The
million
dollars
that
was
spent
could
have
helped
thousands
of
families
that
have
been
displaced
or
are
about
to
be
displaced.
How
many
children
could
have
been
helped
by
that
million
dollars?
AV
AW
Hello,
hello,
hi.
My
name
is
Jenny
Zhao
I'm,
a
resident
in
District,
One,
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
Bob,
a
Grassroots
organization
that
represents
the
mom-and-pop
housing
providers
in
San,
Jose
I'm,
calling
to
express
our
strong
opposition
and
deep
frustration
about
council
member
Ortiz
memo.
AW
We
have
spent
nearly
two
and
a
half
years
and
over
a
million
dollars
in
staff's
time
costs
and
resources
on
this
one.
It's
already
too
much
time
and
resources
wasted.
We
all
know
that
we
don't
have
unlimited
time
of
resource.
The
result
is
loud
and
clear.
Copa
is
a
bad
policy
to
a
non-existing
problem.
AW
Cdc
rejected
Copa
on
March
the
27th,
it's
time
for
our
entire
city
leader,
to
have
the
chance
to
reject
Hopper
and
move
forward.
Mom
and
pop
housing
providers
provides
more
than
70
percent
of
the
naturally
affordable
housing
in
San
Jose.
Please
stop
adding
more
burdens
to
us.
The
best
way
of
preserving
is
to
preserve
mom
and
pop
housing
providers.
We
urge
our
city
leaders
to
use
our
limited
resources,
fundings
and
staff
hours
to
explore
cost
effective
solutions
to
address
displacement
issue
and
housing.
Affordability,
Copa
is
definitely
not
one
of
them.
AX
Hello,
my
name
is
Dimitri
krugliac
I'm,
a
realtor,
a
property
rights,
Advocate
and
resident
of
District
3..
My
message
will
be
short
and
sweet:
stop
wasting
time
and
money
on
corpora
and
start
working
on
actual
solutions
to
the
housing
questions.
The
copper
policy
failed
everywhere.
It
was
tried.
We
don't
need
to
keep
the
zombie
coming
back,
bring
it
to
the
council
vote
to
have
it
killed
there,
and
we
will
also
see
who
wants
to
support
this
terrible
policy.
AM
AY
AY
C
AY
Really
look
at
this
a
psychoplanistic
length
and
stop
using
this
information
trying
to
get
away
from
actually
addressing
the
problem.
It's
not
a
solution,
there's
more
of
in
addition,
and
so
so
you
know
just
one
step
in
the
right
direction
and
I
really
urge
you
guys
to
make
the
right
decision
and
listen
to
the
people
who
are
advocate.
AY
AZ
Yeah
hi,
my
name
is
Ryan
I'm,
a
local
realtor
I'm,
asking
I'm
asking
you
guys
to
please
do
not
delay
this
vote.
I.
Ask
that
you
oppose
council
member
Ortiz's
memo
to
indefinitely
defer.
Copa
Copa
must
be
brought
to
a
vote
and
defeated
on
April
25th.
You
have
already
spent
over
two
years
and
over
a
million
dollars
of
taxpayer
dollars
of
on
Copa.
AZ
It's
very
frustrating.
This
Copa
issue
is
is
wrong
on
many
levels.
You
know,
please,
you
know
I,
ask
you
guys
to
stop
squandering
taxpayer
dollars.
You
know
I
I,
just
don't
understand
why
you
don't
provide
vouchers
for
the
folks
that
need
them.
This
would
be
a
far
better
use
of
taxpayer
dollars
and
you
could
provide
immediate
relief.
You
know
now
you
know,
there's
there's
there
really
is
no
issue
and
will
never
be
an
issue
for
these
non-profits
to
to
purchase.
AZ
You
know
this
type
of
housing
that
they're
going
after
you
know,
I,
just
don't
I,
just
don't
understand
why
these
non-profits
are
not
going
after
the
properties
that
are
available
on
the
open
market.
Now
I
mean
they're
on
they're
available
now
they've
been
available
in
the
past.
It's
very
frustrating
you
know:
Copa
is
disrespectful
by
putting
these
non-profits
above
the
mom
and
pop
housing
providers.
AZ
BA
Good
afternoon
I
am
Stephanie
leg,
say
a
resident
of
district
6
in
San
Jose
I
respectfully.
Ask
that
you
oppose
the
memo
that
put
that
would
indefinitely
postpone
Coppa.
There
have
been
already
two
and
a
half
years
dedicated
to
the
research
and
tweaking
of
Copa,
yet
it
remains
full
of
flaws.
The
reason
for
this
is
that
it
is
not
a
good
program.
No
amount
of
time
is
going
to
change
that.
It
is
time
to
recognize
it.
BA
BB
BB
Kelly
Hunt
and
I'm
a
resident
District
10..
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak.
I
want
to
urge
you
to
oppose
the
postponement
indefinitely
of
the
vote
for
Coppa
I'm
a
long
time
resident
and
real
estate
professional
and
intimately
familiar
with
the
housing
market.
Non-Profits
have
not
been
excluded
from
seeing
or
purchasing
multi-units
on
the
open
market.
There's
factual
information
available
to
the
council
and
the
public
that
verifies
the
listings
and
sales
for
these
properties.
BB
These
are
available.
There
are
available
multi-unit
properties
currently
on
the
market
for
them
to
purchase.
Yet
these
non-profits
are
still
unsuccessful
in
doing
so.
Mom
and
pop
housing
providers
should
not
be
forced
to
sell
to
a
non-profit
that
is
already
incapable
of
successfully
purchasing
multi-unit
housing
already
on
the
open
market.
I
attended
the
meeting
on
March
27th,
and
it
was
very
disturbing
to
me
and
sad
in
particular,
to
hear
the
tenants
emotionally
pleading
for
Copa,
but
using
reasons
that
are
not
actually
going
to
transpire
or
help
them
they're
being
misled.
BB
There
is
no
argument
that
we
need
more
affordable
housing.
We
have
a
dire
shortage
of
residential
and
multi-unit
housing,
but
this
measure
will
not
create
new
or
more
affordable
homes
for
these
renters.
There
are
other
means
which
were
mentioned
here
as
far
as
vouchers,
and
things
like
that.
I
just
think
we
have
a
lot
more
options
available
that
will
be
way
more
successful
and
affordable.
For
these.
C
BB
G
Hey
and
and
vote
to
against
the
co-pay,
it's
a
bad
policy.
Why
the
you
know
the
no
especially
non-profit
organization,
they
have
a
priority
to
buy
the.
Why
you
guys
can
can
now
buy
the
the
housing
in
the
fire
market
price.
You
know
you
can
buy,
but
how
can
you
have
a
priority
over
other
people?
That's
not
fair!
Okay!
That's
really
bad
policy
against
the
Callback.
G
BC
Thank
you
good
afternoon,
council
members.
My
name
is
Neil
Collins
and
I'm.
The
CEO
of
the
Santa
Clara
County
Association
of
Realtors
I'm,
here
to
ask
that
you
do
not
support
the
memo
by
council
member
Ortiz
to
defer
this
indefinitely
The
Narrative
that
this
will
help
displacement
is
simply
not
accurate.
We
can
provide
more
support
to
our
tenants
immediately
through
an
emergency
voucher
system
that
provides
rental
relief
directly
to
those
tenants
who
are
at
risk
of
being
displaced.
That
can
be
done
today.
Copa
is
not
needed.
BC
D
All
right,
thank
you.
I,
don't
see
any
hands
up
yet
from
my
committee
colleagues
I'm
hoping
to
hear
from
them
on
what
their
their
views
are
on
how
to
proceed
moving
forward.
You
know
this.
This
Topic's
been
lingering
for
a
while,
but
it's
not
going
to
go
away
in
my
opinion,
in
the
sense
that
preservation
is
going
to
be
important
for
us
as
a
city
as
part
of
our
housing
strategy
and
it's
incumbent
upon
us
to
discuss
all
potential
options
for
preservation.
D
So
you
know,
in
my
opinion,
the
real
question
is:
what
are
the
right
preservation
strategies
and
what
are
the
options
that
we
should
be
discussing
and
and
what
is
the?
How
do
we
look
at
Alternatives
if
Copa?
Really
it
we
don't
believe
cope-
is
the
right
strategy
for
this
time.
D
I
understand
the
the
recommendation
from
council
member
Ortiz,
because
the
idea
of
keeping
preservation
on
the
table
keeping
Hope
on
the
table
always
as
a
potential
option
once
we
see
how
the
market
is
playing
out
with
other
strategies,
I
think
is
important,
but-
and
it's
also-
but
it's
also
important
for
us
to
have
a
conversation,
I
think
as
a
council
about
what
are
the?
D
What
are
the
overall
things
we
should
do
as
Alternatives
if
we're
not
going
to
move
forward
at
this
time
with
a
Copa
strategy,
so
I
don't
know
I'm
interested
in
hearing
the
rest.
Now
the
hands
have
popped
up
so
I'll.
Let
council
member
Jimenez
go
first.
BD
Calling
in
sharing
your
perspective,
this
I've
had
meetings
with
many
of
The
Advocates
on
this
I
think,
maybe
on
one
or
two
occasions,
I
left
some
of
those
meetings
with
additional
questions
being
a
realtor
myself
and
sort
of
understanding
the
industry,
not
as
well
as
my
colleague,
Pam
Foley
up
here,
but
I
also
had
some
well
I
hadn't
had
a
meeting
with
the
Realtors
actually,
and
some
of
those
meetings
were
due
to
take
place
in
the
next
few
weeks.
BD
I
was
asking
weren't
very
clear,
either
and
so
I
have
been
in
this
space,
in
which
I
was
still
trying
to
put
together
my
thoughts
as
to
whether
one,
whether
this
policy
was
going
to
have
the
impact
that
I
think
a
lot
of
people
hope
it's
going
to
have
and
also
evaluating
whether
folks
in
the
real
estate
industry
are
saying
it's
going
to.
The
detrimental
impact
is
going
to
be
as
large
as
they
say.
BD
Although
the
word
indefinitely
I'd
be
curious
if
councilmember
Ortiz
since
you're
up
here,
what
are
you
thinking
when
I,
because
when
I
read
indefinitely,
it
seems
like
we're
sending
it
away
somewhere
and
it's
just
going
to
sit
on
a
shelf
and,
and
maybe
other
conversations
will
take
place
but
I'm,
hoping
that
you
can
enlighten
me
a
little
bit.
I.
O
Think
very,
very
similar
to
how
you
characterized
it
putting
it
on
the
Shelf
at
this
point
unless
in
the
future,
Council
wants
to
bring
it
back.
But
my
whole
reason
for
this
is
to
make
sure
that
we
can
continue
to
have
preservation
conversations
as
a
council
as
a
city
and
not
rush
to
take
any
single
member
of
that
toolkit
off
the
conversation
table.
Okay,.
BD
And
then
my
understanding
as
well
is
that
even
as
any
so
thank
you
for
that
is
even
if
it
comes
before
us
say
the
25th
or
whatever
it
may
be,
and
if
it
does
in
fact
get
voted
down
or
it
doesn't
pass
or
there's
modifications
that
I
I
also
understand
that
it
can.
It
can
be
revived
to
a
certain
extent,
I
mean
it's
not
sort
of
the
death
now
and
it
doesn't
go
away
forever.
BD
And
so
one
of
the
things
that
that
comes
to
mind
is
I,
hear
some
of
the
comments
from
some
of
the
folks
in
the
real
estate
industry.
Is
that
even
if
we
were
to
bring
it
before
a
vote
and
we
were
to
vote
it
down
or
whatever
would
happen,
it
doesn't
mean
that
another
council
member
in
the
future,
can't
resubmit
it
for
consideration
to
this
body
and
so
I
think
the
indefinite
sort
of
postponement.
If
you
will
I
think
it.
BD
You
know,
there's
something
to
be
said
about
what
we
do
with
some
of
the
resources
attached
to
some
of
this
work,
which
I
think
is
an
important
conversation,
but
I
also
think
that
it
does.
What
some
of
the
folks
in
Industry
want
is
for
it
not
to
take
effect
today,
right
now,
I
guess
in
their
point,
it
may
be
ever,
but
I
I
think
it
does
presently
seems
to
me
to
do
what
everyone
wants
it
to
do.
BD
If
we
actually
approve
this
memo
by
council
member
Ortiz,
I
didn't
watch
the
CED
meeting,
I
heard
it
was
like
10
hours
long
and
this
chamber
was
full
and
so
I
I
certainly
look
forward
to
hearing
from
some
of
the
colleagues
that
are
up
here
that
are
also
on
the
in
the
community
in
Economic
Development
Committee
be
hopefully
enlighten
me
with
some
of
what
you
heard
and
what
you
think
needs
to
happen,
but
I'll
move
approval
of
the
Ortiz
memo
and
I
hope
we
get
a
second
just
for
the
sake
of
discussion,
and
you
know
we
can
go
a.
D
Well,
I
was
going
to
hold
off
on
a
second
until
I
heard
from
other
colleagues
about
their
their
views.
So,
let's
just
let's
hold
off.
We
can
always
bring
back
a
motion
that,
let's
let
me
hear
from
councilmember.
W
Sorry,
thank
you
so
much.
I
too,
would
like
to
thank
all
of
the
speakers
on
both
sides.
I
do
understand
that
this
has
been
an
issue
for
over
two
years
and
I
think
my
colleague
council
member
Ortiz,
for
wanting
to
allow
for
more
time.
I
do,
however,
believe
that
anti-displacement
strategies
are
needed.
We
definitely
need
to
be
able
to
do
something
about
that.
I
also
believe
that
preservation
is
important
and
we
need
to
create
the
infrastructure
necessary
to
be
able
to
have
Alternatives
I.
W
Don't
know
that
Coppa
is
the
right
alternative.
I
think
we
should
have
multiple
Avenues
to
be
able
to
deal
with
anti-displacement,
and
you
know:
I
I
really
think
that
Sandy
who
spoke
earlier
from
the
South
Bay
Community
Land
Trust
I,
think
that
that
has
started
a
group
that
actually
is
doing
something.
So
I
think
that
that
is
perhaps
an
Avenue,
but
it
does
not
need
to
be
the
only
Avenue.
There
are
other
avenues
to
provide
for
preservation.
W
I
think
that
after
over
two
years,
I
think
that
the
council
needs
to
have
that
discussion.
You
know,
whichever
way
it
goes.
Whichever
way,
it
goes
because
I
think
that
waiting
for
a
longer
period
of
time
does
not
does
not
help
and
I
really
think
that
we
need
to
look
at
what
are
the
Alternatives
and
what
is
it
that
can
be
done
and
I
hope
that
housing
does
bring
us.
You
know
a
robust
way
of
looking
at
solving
some
of
these
problems.
W
I
think
that
the
South
Bay
Community
Land
Trust
has
a
way
of
looking
at
things
in
terms
of
of
what
could
be
possible
right
and
and
that
you
know
that
is
an
area
that
I
think
does
not
stop
us.
You
know,
whichever
way
things
go,
but
I
do
think
that
we
need
to
start
providing
for
action
and
make
decisions.
W
N
Thank
you,
I
want
to
thank
the
people
in
the
audience
who
are
here
present
in
person
and
those
who
called
in
online
I
also
want
to
thank
council
member
Ortiz
for
his
memo.
Although
I
don't
agree
with
postponing
it
indefinitely.
As
the
chair
of
the
community
economic
development
committee
and
many
of
you
who
are
called
in-
or
we
are
here
in
person,
know
how
long
that
meeting
ran
and
how
many
people
were
here
to
listen
to
the
debate
and
actually
actually
offer
input
on
that
particular
committee.
N
I
was
the
only
veteran
all
the
others
were
new,
but
they
were
clearly
up
to
speed
on
what
the
issue
is.
The
memo
does
not
say,
go
back
to
staff
and
and
investigate
it,
a
little
more.
It
says,
and
and
council
member
Ortiz
clarified
council
member
Jimenez
question,
which
was
what
does
that
mean
and
council
member
Ortiz
said
it
means
to
put
it
on
the
shelf.
That
means
staff
is
not
spending
any
any
more
time
investigating
it.
N
I
I've
investigated
this
issue
for
two
and
a
half
years
from
all
angles
and
I
feel
I
personally
feel
very
equipped
to
make
a
decision.
Council
members,
when
you're
new
or
experienced,
we
have
an
obligation
to
research
the
issue
and
to
listen
to
both
sides.
All
sides
which
I
have
done
anytime.
Someone
calls
me
and
wants
to
talk
to
me
about
any
issue.
I
always
have
an
open
door
and
always
say
yes
to
taking
that
meeting.
N
So
if
anyone
is
in
this
meeting
in
this
room,
who'd
like
to
meet
with
me
and
discuss
their
point
of
view,
please
let
me
know
and
we'll
set
that
up
through
my
my
scheduler
Shirley,
because
it
is
important
that
I
hear
both
sides.
You've
also
know
that
I
am
a
realtor
that
is,
was
my
business
I'm
no
longer
in
that
business
that
business
closed
in
early
January,
but
I
don't
really
sell
property.
N
I
did
real
estate
loans,
that's
I
help
people
buy
property
and
haven't
done
that
actively
for
since
I've
been
on
the
council,
but
I
do
know
the
issue.
That's
for
sure
and
I
have
a
lot
of
questions
about
Copa
and
concerns
about
the
implementation
and,
ultimately,
I
have
concerns
about
the
staff
time
that
staff
spent
two
and
a
half
years
investigating
and
I've
heard
numbers
that
they've
spent
a
million
to
a
million.
A
half
investigating
that's
a
lot
of
money
to
come
up
with
a
proposal
that
isn't
going
through
or
may
not
go
through.
N
Clearly
CED
the
committee.
They
moved
to
reject
the
staff
recommendation.
It
is
time
for
the
full
Council
to
have
this
discussion
in
an
open
session
and
I
expect
will
have
a
lot
of
people
in
audience
too
to
offer
their
opinion
on
one
side
of
the
issue
or
another.
And
then
the
council
will
make
a
decision
based
on
the
input
that
they
receive
in
the
studies
that
they
do
in
investigating
the
their
with
the
people
who
approach
them
and
come
to
them
and
talk
to
them
about
this
issue.
N
D
All
right,
thank
you
and
I
want
to
want
to
thank
everybody
who
came
out
today.
There's
a
lot
of
been
a
lot
of
passion
on
this
important
topic
on
both
sides
of
this
issue
for
a
long
time
and
I
appreciate
hearing
from
a
people
who
are
expressing
the
importance
of
our
City's
work
and
preservation,
as
well
as
folks
who
do
important
work
in
the
real
estate
industry
and
their
perspective.
You
know
I've
been
saying
this
I've
said
it
privately
in
a
lot
of
meetings.
I've
had
it
with
people
in
both
sides
of
this
issue.
D
I
have
not
been
convinced
that
coppo
will
move
the
needle
significantly,
but
I
also
have
significantly
unconvinced
that
Coppa
will
have
the
the
negative
ramification
on
the
real
estate
industry
that
they
claim
it
will.
So
there's
there's
still
questions
in
my
mind
out
there
about
the
efficacy
of
this
particular
approach.
D
But
you
know
the
the
you
know.
Some
of
the
scare
tactics
have
been
a
little
bit
also
I
think
overly
generalized.
Having
said
that,
you
know
I,
agree
with
councilman
jimenez's
point
and
councilmember
Ortiz's
point
that
that
this
is
somewhat
of
an
academic
question
about
shelving
or
now
or
having
the
conversation
on
the
25th.
D
To
me,
the
value
of
having
the
conversation
on
the
25th
is
for
us
to
talk
about
how
we
look
at
the
resources
that
have
been
earmarked
for
spending
on
Copa
strategies
and
direct
staff
at
that
time,
through
the
budget
process,
to
make
recommendations
on
how
we
immediately
begin
using
some
of
that
money
to
begin
to
focus
on
anti-displacement
or
increase
our
anti-displacement
efforts
and
what
other
ways
we
can
invest
that
money
in
preservation,
strategies
and
and
in
theory,
you
know
continuing
to
have
reports
every
couple
year
or
two
about
how
are
these
anti-displacement
strategies
working?
D
Where
are
we
still
falling
short?
What
parts
of
the
city
still
need
more
attention?
How
do
we
now
Focus
other
resources
in
that
area
and
what
other
strategies
at
this
point,
maybe
you
know,
may
need
to
be
tried,
because
some
of
the
strategies
aren't
yet
being
fully
successful,
no
Pro,
no
nothing
ever
is
permanently
off
the
table
anyway.
D
When
a
council
takes
a
vote,
I
there's
still
a
lot
of
the
jury's
still
out
in
my
mind
about
how
well
Copa
is
working
in
the
places
where
it's
been
implemented,
and
you
know
in
a
couple
years
from
now,
we
might
learn
more
about
some
of
the
benefits.
We
also
might
learn
about
how
to
focus
that
effort
in
certain
parts
of
the
city,
where
we
have
more
prevalence
of
of
concurrent
issues
with
gentrification
and
displacement,
rather
than
some
broader
brush
approaches.
D
So
I
think
that
there's
still
room
to
have
conversations
about
strategies,
but
have
a
conversation
at
the
end
of
this
month
on
how
we
focus
some
of
our
current
resources
that
have
been
set
aside
on
immediate
impact
for
the
residents
who
are
at
risk
of
displacement,
because
that
should
be
our
key
Focus
I.
Think
that
as
I've
been
saying
all
along,
getting
our
you
know
used
to
be
that
for
every
one
person
that
becomes
unhoused
in
the
city,
we
have
about
three
people
falling
into
homelessness,
we're
down
to
about
1.6.
D
We
know
we're
not
going
to
solve
our
problem
until
we're
down
below
one.
We
need
to
put
resources
as
much
as
possible
into
that
problem
as
quickly
as
possible.
We
need
to
be
preventing
displacement
as
quickly
as
possible
in
as
large
numbers
as
possible,
and
so
I
know
that
I'm
committed
and
I
think
I
hope
that
the
majority
of
the
council's
committed
to
figuring
out
how
we
can
invest
in
that
most
effectively.
D
D
All
right,
the
motion
carries
three
to
one
with
councilman
Jimenez
suppose
we
will
now
move
on
to
our
consent
agenda
on
which
has
six
items
on
consent.
E
F
F
I
wanted
to
offer
about
the
updates
to
the
Community
CED
committee
work
plan
coming
up,
you're
going
to
be
talking
about
Wayfarer
issues
that
I'm,
assuming
is
about
the
downtown
kiosk
issues
and
I
have
concerns
about
the
kiosk
issues.
Naturally,
and
it's
work
with
surveillance,
Tech
and
data
collection,
I
hope
you
can
be
open
and
clear
about
that.
Interestingly,
I
think
it's
a
bit
more
of
an
interesting
program
than
say
putting
downtown
Billboards
up.
F
You
know
high
up
that
are
going
to
be
doing
the
same
thing
as
the
downtown
kiosk
they're,
going
to
be
surveilling
people
they're
going
to
be
collecting
their
data,
but
at
least
the
kiosks
are
interactive
and
I.
Think
that's
a
bit
more
of
interest
to
ourselves
and
has
provides
a
bit
more
service
than
the
Billboards
do,
but
I
I,
just
I
mean
it's
going
to
suck
up
a
lot
of
data
from
people
it's
going
to
be
totally
taking
over
their
privacy
issues.
I
think
it's
a
really
uncomfortable
technology!
I!
F
Don't
think
it's
really
worth
it
you're
going
to
talk
about
its
wonders,
but
I
I
just
hope.
We
can
have
the
conversation
to
to
talk
about
his
downside
too,
about
your
epis
committee
planning,
also
you're,
going
to
talk
about
police
issues
how
police
are
acting
and
working
in
June.
That
should
be
enough
time
to
get
set
up.
F
What's
been
going
on
with
the
sjpoa
stuff,
where
exactly
are
San
Jose
police
officers
may
be
involved
in
fentanyl
distribution
and
I
hope
we're
learning
how
to
better
openly
more
talk
about
that
subject:
better
and
what
exactly
police
were
doing
in
our
local
neighborhoods
with
the.
M
Yes,
thank
you
for
the
meeting
when
you're
doing
the
math
problems
and
you're
trying
to
get
at
the
answer.
M
If,
if
there's,
if
there's
some
kind
of
variable
in
the
equation,
that
is,
that
is
wrong
or
the
or
the
order
of
operations
is
reversed.
You'll
never
arrive
at
the
answer
that
never
in
until
the
equation
is
set
properly.
M
You
you
don't
arrive
at
an
answer.
It's
just
keep
on
chasing
and
changing
the
variable,
and
you
know
this
is
an
existential
crisis.
The
people
that
have
suffered
under
the
redlining
policies
and
the
generational
impacts
of
that
has
to
be
squarely
centered,
and
it
has
not
been
properly
done
and
what
you
were
saying
to
that
generation
of
people.
These
are.
These
are
Chicanos.
M
These
are
the
ones
that
experience
all
that
fiestas
de
las
Rosas,
the
ones
that
the
Discrimination
in
the
schools
all
of
this
all
of
these
oppressions-
and
it
was
because
of
that
community
that
we
have
installed
now
the
10
districts
as
a
result
of
confederations
work,
and
so
so
we
have
done
what
we
could
now.
It's
incumbent
upon
you
to
do
what
it
is
that
you
can
using
the
10
districts
that
we
gave
you
to
do
it
with,
and
my
community
is
just
asking
for
that.
M
This
is
a
very
clear,
distinct
group
in
the
city
of
San
Jose
that
has
not
been
contextualized
within
these
conversations
and
that
that
is
just
like
a
blatant,
complete
disregard
for
this
community
and
the
power
that
you
exercise
from
those
seats
is
extracted
from
that
community.
F
All
right,
thank
you.
Well
everyone
here,
thanks
to
the
words
of
council
person,
Cohen
today,
I
think
I
think
he
offered
some
interesting
ideas.
Thank
you.
For
today,
the
concepts
of
mixed
income
can
be
helpful
concepts
for
all
sides
and
housing
issues
that
were
talked
about
as
city
council.
Yesterday,
good
luck
in
how
to
start
medic,
considering
how
the
ideas
of
cooperation
and
community
and
a
shared
future
are
basically
the
ideas
of
mixing
mixed
income.
Good
luck!
F
How
we
can
talk
about
these
more
before
they
are
mandated
to
us
in
2029
by
the
state
of
California
I
hope
we
can
start
talking
about
them
now
and
to
talk
about
digital
Equity
from
yesterday.
F
Also
a
reminder:
I
I,
hope
I
can
talk
more
about
civil
rights
and
civil
protection
ideas
that
that
we
need
to
more
learn
to
more
openly
talk
about
as
part
of
the
process
of
why
we
have
good
accountable
practices
and
what
accountable
practices
can
offer
the
future
of
digital
equity
and
breaching
the
digital
divide,
and
it's
those
things
I
think
I
figured
out
yesterday
that
help
address
racial
Equity
really
well.
F
If
we
learn
to
talk
about
civil
rights
and
civil
Protections
in
our
Bridging,
the
digital
divide
issues
and
learning
to
include
that
answers,
those
sort
of
questions
that
Paul's
asking
about.
Often
how
do
we
talk
about
racial
Equity?
Is
it
in
civil
rights
and
civil
protection
terms,
and
where
is
that,
and
can
that
be
an
open
conversation
I?
We
can't
fear
that
conversation,
that's
our
best
step
and
that's
our
that's.
That's
our
ideas
of
sustainability.
F
Basically,
what
we
do
is
positive
sustainability
and
I
hope
we
can
have
those
conversations
on
the
east
side
and
it's
our
good,
interesting
things
for
our
future.
I
think
that
how
to
bridge
the
digital
divides,
it's
really
important
stuff.
So,
thanks
for
the
meeting
and
good
luck
to
the.