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City of San José, California
Smart Cities & Service Improvements Committee of March 4, 2021
Pre-meeting citizen input on Agenda via eComment at https://sanjose.granicusideas.com/meetings.
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A
A
A
B
Yes,
all
right,
I
was
training
somebody
else
so
I'll
call
it
fully
here.
Le
cardo.
A
Here,
thank
you,
hi,
everyone
hope
you're
all
doing
well.
You
know
before
we
before
we
dive
in
it
has
come
to
my
attention
that
ken
davies
is
wrapping
up
his
22
years
of
service
with
the
city,
and
I
just
just
want
to
thank
him
for
his
great
work
and
wish
him
a
very
happy
retirement.
I've
been
told
by
ken's
colleagues
that
he's
an
avid
space
nerd,
so
hopefully
I'll
have
a
little
more
time
with
his
personal
telescope
and
he's
also
known
for
his
dry
sense
of
humor.
A
So
I
hope
he's
able
to
drop
in
a
few
jokes
in
this
last
meeting
today
and
on
a
more
serious
note.
You
know
ken
has
has
done
a
lot
for
the
city
and
its
residents,
including
assisting
in
the
creation
of
the
burrowing
owl
habitat
at
the
regional
wastewater
facility,
the
adoption
of
the
plant
master
plan
and
the
implementation
of
our
climate
smart
plan,
which
we'll
be
discussing
today
so
just
really
appreciate
ken
service
and
and
wish
him
all
the
best
and
we'll
we'll
hear
from
him
soon
here.
So
with
that.
A
I
also
wanted
to
just
note
for
the
public
that
you
are
able
to
speak
on
any
item
and
if
you
wish
to
do
so,
please
press
star
nine,
if
you're,
calling
in
by
phone
or
ray's
hand
if
you're
in
the
zoom
application,
and
with
that,
I
think
I'm
gonna
turn
it
over
to
rob
and
kip
to
give
us
some
introductory
comments.
C
Good
afternoon,
chairperson
mayhem,
committee,
members
and
members
of
the
public
here
here
on
your
comments
for
ken
I'm
rob
lloyd,
chief
information
officer
for
the
city
of
san
jose
and
just
a
few
introductory
comments,
as
ken
pulls
his
presentation
up.
This
month's,
the
committee
will
see
work
in
two
areas.
One
is
agenda
item,
one
which
is
the
city's
progress
and
challenges
in
meeting
its
climate.
E
Sorry,
I
lost
control
of
the
device
here
for
a
second,
you
try
that
again.
C
A
E
Okay-
and
let
me
just
start
by
saying-
thank
you
chairperson
for
those
kind
comments.
Clearly,
your
resources
are
well
developed
this
early
in
your
tenure,
and
you,
you
nailed
all
of
that.
E
A
good
afternoon
members
of
the
committee,
ken
davies,
deputy
director,
esd
very
happy
to
be
here
to
highlight
the
critical
climate
work
we've
maintained
during
the
pandemic
and
beyond
and
in
an
otherwise
tumultuous
year,
despite
everything
that
2020
and
and
even
into
2021,
has
thrown
at
us.
We're
reminded
on
a
daily
basis
that
climate
change
and
global
warming
are
not
taking
the
pandemic
off
and
that
our
mission
remains
as
important
as
ever.
E
So
as
we
go
into
the
presentation,
just
some
important
notes
to
remember
cities
play
a
critical
role
in
our
nation's
economic
development
and
climate
action.
Ninety
percent
of
gdp
and
eighty
percent,
eighty-six
percent
of
u.s
jobs
are
generated
within
three
percent
of
the
con
continental
us
will
see
our
cities.
E
Two-Thirds
of
the
world's
energy
is
consumed
by
cities.
Seventy
percent
of
global
ghg
or
greenhouse
gas
emissions
are
produced
by
cities
so
as
the
tenth
largest
city
in
the
u.s
san
jose
has
an
important
and
leading
role
in
the
fight
against
climate
change.
E
E
I'll
talk
about
the
city's
efforts
to
decarbonize
the
built
environment
and
a
couple
talk
about
a
couple
of
tech
applications
like
our
climate,
smart
challenge,
web
platform
and,
of
course,
answer
any
questions
that
the
committee
may
have
so
in
february
of
2018.
The
city
of
san
jose
was
one
of
the
first
u.s
cities
to
adopt
a
paris
agreement
aligned
to
climate
action
plan
that
is,
climate,
smart
san,
jose
we're
happy
to
be
celebrating
the
plan
entering
its
fourth
year
now
just
had
a
big
three-year
birthday
party.
E
Last
month
it
puts
forth
bold
climate
actions
to
drastically
increase
the
community's
energy
efficiency
and
investment
and
renewable
energy
and
dramatically
reduce
car
emissions
all
while
promoting
culturally
vibrant
neighborhoods.
E
This
slide
here
depicts
the
important
key
framings
to
the
plan
centered
around
people
with
the
city,
acting
as
a
catalyst
for
action
outside
of
city
hall.
Public
input
into
the
plan
was
substantial.
D
I
just
want
to
interrupt
for
a
second
sorry,
I'm
I'm
on
still
on
slide
one.
So
I
don't
know
if,
if
you're
advancing
it,
I'm
not
seeing
it
okay,
so
maybe
rob
do
you
want
to
run
it
from
your
side
and
actually
maybe
throw
it
up
on
the
full
and
then
we
can
because
we're
just
unless
I'm
in
my
own
unique
position
that
we're
all
stuck
on
slide.
One.
E
Thankful
so
I'll
stop
sharing
then
rob.
E
Okay,
let's
see
implementation
ready.
Our
plan
is,
has
deep
alignment
with
the
general
plan
and
environmental
goals,
it's
inclusive,
informed
by
equity,
enabled
by
the
good
life
2.0
or
the
idea
of
how
making
climate
positive
choices
can
improve
life
without
sacrifices
and
yeah.
That's
it
right
there
and
informed
by
data
the
cost
benefit
modeling
for
energy
input.
E
The
plan
has
three
pillars:
nine
strategies,
all
with
gold;
bowls
bold
goals.
The
plan
outlines
nine
strategies
that
work
toward
creating
a
city
that
is
sustainable
and
climate.
Smart
connected
and
growth
focused
and
economically
inclusive,
just
some
key
areas
to
point
out
densification
of
our
neighborhoods,
like
urban
villages
that
are
close
to
transit,
the
creation
of
local
jobs
to
reduce
vehicle
miles.
Traveled
like
google
in
downtown
west,
embracing
of
our
cam
california
climate.
E
E
In
the
absence
of
federal
climate
leadership.
Three
somewhat
long
years
ago,
the
city
and
community
came
together
not
only
to
support
the
principles
of
the
paris
agreement,
but
to
develop
a
plan
that
charts
the
best
pathways
for
keeping
global
temperature
rise,
the
century
below
two
degrees
centigrade.
E
As
you
are
all
aware,
san
jose
is
a
growing
city
and
is
expecting
another
400
000
people
by
2040.,
so
climate
aspirate,
helps
provide
a
framework
for
urban
and
economic
growth.
While
reducing
ghg
emissions
a
few
examples
of
those
bold
goals,
all
new
homes
will
be
zero
net
carbon
again
achieve
that
through
our
reach
code
towards
the
end
of
2019.
E
By
2030,
we
want
to
have
60
percent
of
all
passenger
vehicles,
be
electric,
and
certainly
seeing
some
alignment
with
the
state
on
that
by
2050
reduced
per
capita
water
consumption
by
50
below
20
2009
levels
by
2040,
be
the
first
be
the
world's
first
gigawatt
one
gigawatt
solar
city
over.
Ninety
percent
of
all
roofs
in
san
jose
are
suitable
for
solar
electricity
production
and
by
2040.
Only
four
out
of
ten
commute
trips
will
be
taken
in
single
occupancy
vehicles,
as
you'll
see
from
our
data.
E
In
addition
to
its
focus
on
inclusivity
and
the
combination
of
climate
focused,
behavior
change,
climate,
smart
is
really
about
reducing
ghg
emissions
and
meeting
those
paris
accord,
aligned
objectives
right
now,
we're
currently
conducting
an
annual
greenhouse
gas
or
ghg
inventory
process
that
alternates
yearly
between
a
ghd
inventory
that
focuses
only
on
municipal
ghg
in
city
operations
and
another
one
that
evaluates
emissions
on
a
community-wide
basis
when
we
conduct
those,
as
we
are
now
on
a
regular
basis
and
compare
them
to
previous
results
that
provides
insight
into
what
emissions
sectors
are
turning
down
or
those
that
need
more
attention.
E
E
For
example,
you
can
see
the
2005
inventory
didn't
include
employee
commute
and
the
2018
inventory
included
the
carbon
sequestration
value
of
our
street
trees.
For
the
first
time,
one
area
you
might
want
to
focus
on
in
terms
of
concern
is
that
employee
commute
sector
which
is
growing
perhaps
as
a
result
of
economic
factors
which
have
forced
staff
to
relocate
farther
out
where
lower
housing
costs
are
available.
E
Then
our
most
recent
inventory,
which
is
about
to
be
published
and
we'll
be
bringing
to
tn
council
in
may,
is
our
2019
community-wide
ghg
inventory.
So
what
are
some
takeaways?
When
we
look
at
this
one
versus
previous
inventories,
we
can
see
our
electricity
supply
becoming
more
carbon
free
over
time
and
that's
a
trend.
That's
going
to
continue
as
the
community
energy
department
procures
more
renewable
supplies.
E
We'll
take
a
little
different
look
at
that
on
the
next
slide.
Please.
E
So
here
you
can
kind
of
get
a
better
sense
of
just
how
dominant
transportation
related
emissions
are.
Even
as
we
strive
to
fully
decarbonize
our
electricity
supply,
progress
has
to
be
made
to
decarbonize
transportation
and
achieve
meaningful
mode
shift
away
from
single
occupancy
vehicles
in
order
to
to
hit
the
the
trajectory
that
we
need
to.
E
One
note
over
on
the
right
natural
gas
is
is
not
just
an
issue
in
our
buildings.
It
has
to
be
brought
to
the
state,
california
imports
about
86
percent
of
the
gas
it
uses
and
it
can
escape
at
the
extraction
site
and
during
that
transmission
from
the
midwest
out
here
next
slide.
Please.
E
So
how
are
we
doing
compared
to
the
objectives
our
plan
says?
We
need
to
reach
we're
doing
pretty
good.
For
now.
The
darker
line
on
the
top
shows
how
emissions
would
rise
if
we
had
continued
on
a
business
as
usual
path
without
climate,
smart,
the
blue
dots
indicate
where
we've
conducted
inventories
and
the
reddish
line
shows
the
trajectory
we
need
to
follow
to
meet
the
paris
goals.
E
Please
so,
just
taking
a
bit
of
a
deeper
dive
here
to
estimate
transportation
emissions,
we
typically
need
to
know
vehicle
miles,
traveled
or
bmt,
and
then
we
use
emission
factors
that
are
calculated
on
a
per
mile
driven
basis.
But
transportation
data
is
very
hard
to
nail
down.
Unlike
electricity,
for
example,
there's
no
billing
data
to
aggregate
there's,
no
single
source
of
where
we
can
find
that
even
getting
gallons
of
gasoline
sold
is,
is
a
challenge.
E
E
So
so
far,
we've
only
done
that
once
every
five
years,
or
so,
most
recently
in
2008
and
then
again
in
2015
for
the
the
years
in
between,
we
don't
have
any
traffic
survey
data.
So
we're
really
just
extrapolating
between
the
points
that
we
have
we
and
and
don't
have
any
of
that
for
after
2015.
So,
for
those
years,
vmt
is
really
estimated
by
drawing
a
line
between
the
2015
point
and
an
estimate
for
2040,
based
on
the
general
plan
projections
for
job
and
population
growth,
and
that's
why
that
line
is
trending
up.
E
Google,
environment,
environmental
insights
explore
data
has
become
available
over
the
past
couple
of
years,
and
that
seems
to
be
a
good
alternative.
The
the
google
numbers
are
based
on
cell
phone
location
tracking,
which
means
they're
based
on
real
data
every
year,
and
if
you,
if
you
when
you're,
asked
or
prompted
that
from
your
smartphone
and
agree
to
that,
just
know
that
big
brother
is
indeed
watching
your
commute
and
using
that
and
hopefully
the
most
beneficial
way.
E
So
it's
it's
not
perfect,
but
it
is
a
little
better.
It's
limited
to
those
devices
sharing
location
data
with
google
and
google
so
has
to
make
some
assumptions
to
figure
out
who's
in
a
car
or
a
bus
or
a
train.
For
example.
E
E
It's
a
it's
a
really
good
option,
but
we're
definitely
seeing
a
correlation
between
the
better
data
sets
and
cost,
so
that
data
will
be
more
expensive
next
slide.
Please
we
do
have
a
climate,
smart
dashboard,
that's
been
in
place
now
for
better
part
of
two
years,
we're
continually
working
to
improve
and
expand
the
content
of
our
our
dashboard,
and
this
is
an
example
of
of
one
of
the
graphs
you'll
find
there.
E
We
have
rece,
we
added
a
data
analytics
lead
back
in
2019
and
with
that
resource
we've
been
able
to
expand
and
improve
our
website
and
investigated
and
vetted
additional
data
sources
so
that
that
that
website
continues
to
expand
and
and
I'll
I'll.
Just
acknowledge
that
dr
kizzle
is
here
in
the
audience
today
and
she's
she's
been
key
to
all
that
success
next
slide,
we'll
talk
next
about
how
we're
going
to
decarbonize
the
built
environment
in
san
jose.
Just
for
the
record.
E
E
We
adopted
a
electric
friendly
reach
code
in
2019
that
went
into
effect
on
january
1st
2020
and
strongly
encouraged
all
electric
construction
construction,
but
but
does
allow
for
mixed
fuel
buildings,
meaning
those
that
have
natural
gas
in
some
settings.
E
E
But
we've
found
for
the
most
part,
but
we
found
that
they
were
already
going
in
all
electric
direction
anyway
and
we
as
part
of
that
ordinance,
we
initiated
a
gas
ban
and
all
new
single
family
accessory
dwelling
unit
and
low-rise
residential
up
to
three
stories,
so
that
was
our
first
kind
of
cut
at
the
natural
gas
prohibition
we
did
have
and
still
do
have
assistance
through
the
american
cities,
climate
challenge
in
terms
of
technical
design,
assistance
and
that's
been
really
instrumental
in
helping
our
local
developers
understand
the
different
considerations,
because
if
you
take
that
into
account
at
the
beginning
of
your
project,
it's
a
lot
smoother
next
slide.
E
E
E
E
So
the
vast
majority
of
natural
gas
that
we're
trying
to
remove
is
is
already
out
there
in
the
in
the
existing
buildings
and
then
we
need
to
see
equipment
sized
and
available
for
every
kind
of
building
application,
and
one
of
the
ones
we've
been
helping.
Builders
with
is
the
water
heaters
electric
water
heaters
for
adus
there's
the
the
size
of
those
units
has
typically
been
too
big
or
bigger
than
what's
needed,
for
you
know
a
12
by
12
micro
unit
next
slide.
E
E
We're
working
through
the
american
cities,
climate
challenge
with
the
building
electrification
initiative,
one
of
our
partners,
and
on
this,
this
co-creation
of
the
building
decarbonization
roadmap,
and
and
doing
that
we're
bringing
in
some
community-based
partners,
specifically
icann
and
veggielution,
who
respectively,
represent
the
vietnamese
and
latinx
communities
to
better
understand
the
challenges
in
electrifying.
Some
of
those
older
buildings.
E
Those
two
groups
represent
communities
with
higher
percentages
of
renters.
So
of
primary
primary
importance
is
how
to
bring
the
benefits
of
the
electrification,
because
these
newer
devices
are
highly
more
efficient
without
just
without
affecting
them.
E
You
know
through
displacement,
because
now
the
property
has
been
upgraded,
so
why
this
audience
first
primarily
around
an
idea
called
just
transition,
which
is
elevating
those
that
those
communities
are
most
climate
impacted
to
the
clean
energy
economy
and
and
another
way
to
say
that
is
that
as
we
electrify
here
and
throughout
the
state,
the
number
of
customers
on
the
gas
utility
will
continue
to
shrink
and
that
shrinking
customer
base
will
bear
a
higher
and
higher
portion
of
the
fixed
cost
to
operate
that
system.
E
So
we'll
look
at
just
quickly.
At
a
couple
of
our
tech
applications.
Speaking
of
existing
buildings,
we
had
a
building
performance
ordinance
go
through
in
2018.
It
covers
buildings,
commercial
buildings,
over
25,
000
square
feet.
We've
got
a
new
customer
relationship
management
system.
That's
going
to
make
things
a
lot
easier.
We
hope
on
our
covered
building
owners
and
staff
that
was
approved
just
back
in
january.
E
Starting
this
year,
the
covered
building
owners
were
also
will
also
be
able
to
submit
online
exemption
and
extension
forms
and
receive
annual
scorecard
compliance.
Reports
detailing
how
well
their
buildings
are
performing
so
that
that
ordinance
operates
under
around
this
platform
called
energy
star
portfolio
manager,
which
is
an
epa
created
platform.
E
It
ranks
you
you're,
building
on
a
scale
of
zero
to
a
hundred
hundred
being
the
best,
and
so
buildings
that
are
75
or
above
are
energy
stars,
and
that's
where
we're
trying
to
get
the
the
buildings
in
san
jose
to
be
reducing
energy
demand,
but
also
getting
hopefully,
some
fuel
switching
from
gas
to
electric
in
there
next
slide.
E
Finally,
a
quick
look
at
our
our
climate,
smart
challenge
platform.
It's
been
a
little
hindered
in
terms
of
roll
out
because
of
the
pandemic,
but
we
have
done
a
lot
of
virtual
community
engagement,
the
platforms
available
in
english,
spanish
and
vietnamese
there's
over
60
possible
actions.
You
can
select
on
the
platform,
it's
informative
and
fun.
E
You
can
learn
about
how
you
can
save
money,
how
you
can
save
electricity,
you
can
sort
the
actions
by
their
cost
like
an
ev
would
be
on
the
higher
end
or
or
you
know,
and
just
installing
a
fan
and
and
closing
windows
when
it's
bright
on
that
side
of
the
house,
that
kind
of
thing
or
you
can
sort
it
by
climate
impact,
and
it
will
actually
give
you
a
read
on
how
many
pounds
of
co2
you
are
reducing
or
avoiding
by
taking
a
particular
action
and
then
that's
what
I
have
for
you
today.
A
Thanks
ken
really
appreciate
the
substantive
update
and
thanks
again
for
all
your
service
to
the
to
the
to
the
city
and
its
residents,
why
don't
we
jump
over
to
public
comment
first,
and
we
will
start
with
the
number
that
ends
in
five
one:
four:
zero.
F
We're
able
to
hi
yeah,
I
I
find
it
really
insane
that
you're
gonna
try
to
run
everything
on
an
electrical
grid.
That's
already
really
bad
pg
e
and
whoever
runs
utilities
in
northern
california
has
done
a
really
bad
job,
which
is
pg
e,
really,
except
for
maybe
santa
clara.
They
have
their
own
power.
But
if
you
think
you're
going
to
run
everything
on
electricity
you're
completely
insane,
you
can
have
all
these
plug-in
cars.
On
top
of
everything
that
has
to
be
electric.
F
The
grid
is
not
going
to
be
able
to
handle
it,
because
it's
already
shown
us
that
it
can
I'd
like
to
know
what
your
answers
are
to
that,
because
not
only
that
I
want
to
I
like
natural
gas.
Why
do
I
have
to?
I
think
you
guys
are
in
the
pocket
of
pg
e,
quite
frankly,
because
they're
they're
they're
so
cheap?
They
won't
even
upgrade
their
electrical
cables,
let
alone
their
natural
gas.
Look
at
the
explosion
they
had
in
san
bruno.
F
They
don't
want
to
have
to
to
redo
natural
gas
because
it's
expensive,
the
the
pipeline,
but
they're
so
cheap.
They
don't
even
redo
the
electrical
cable.
I
know
people
from
out
of
state
who
come
and
say
god,
your
electric
electricity
looks
like
it's
from
the
1950s
when
they
see
the
the
cables
up
on
the
you
know
in
the
sky.
F
Here
it's
terrible,
you
guys
are
you're,
really
really
selling
yourself
to
what
I
don't
know,
but
I
lived
in
europe
and
solar
doesn't
work,
wind
doesn't
work,
hi
geothermal
does
work,
but
these
these
renewable
energies
are
great
for
offsetting.
But
if
you
think
you're
going
to
be
running
the
grid
and
have
all
this
green
energy,
you
guys
are
crazy.
Your
marxist
college
professors
sold
you
on
a
bill
of
goods,
and
you
know
it.
F
I
want
to
hear
how
you
think
that
the
electrical
grid
is
going
to
be
able
to
handle
all
this
new
business,
all
these
new
plug-ins
and
and
and
making
it.
So
I
can't
cook
on
gas
I
like
to
cook
on
gas,
you're
dictating
you're
a
bunch
of
little
dictators
dictating
how
I'm
supposed
to
cook
or
how
I'm
supposed
to
heat
my
house
or
how
I'm
supposed
to
heat
my
water
unit
to
take
a
shower.
F
G
Paul
soto
from
the
horseshoe,
I'm
really
glad
that
I
came
to
this
meeting
today.
I
would
like
to
present
to
the
council
that
this
gentleman
stated
that
400
000
people
are
slated
to
move
into
the
area
within
the
next
38
years,
not
40,
38
years,
so
that's
a
40
increase
of
people
that
are
not
indigenous
to
san
jose.
So
that's
number
one,
since
this
already
is
planned
by
the
data
analysis.
G
G
It
is
a
dereliction
of
your
duty
to
the
office
to
your
office
to
prepare
the
residents
psychologically
and
economically.
This
is
on
par
with
what
has
historically
happened
via
manifest
destiny.
That's
number
one.
The
gentleman
also
stated
that
cell
phone
tracking
big
brother
is
watching.
So
this
is
a
public
affirmation
that
we
are
being
technologically
surveilled
without
my
consent.
G
That's
number
two
number
three
is
that
google
said
that
they
need
to
know
who
is
in
the
car?
Who
is
google
anyway?
I
mean
really.
We
need
to
really.
We
really
need
to
have
a
conversation
about
that.
What
business
does
google
have
in
my
car?
This
is
not
just
a
business
that
is
coming
to
do
business
in
the
city
of
san
jose
the
collection
of
data
of
people's
human
behavior.
To
socially
engineer
the
populations
nikola
tesla
way
back
in
1900,
already
tried
to
do
this.
G
He
was
going
to
do
this
electrify
the
entire
world,
but
westinghouse
and
rockefeller
came
in
and
they
they
stifled
that
they
bought
him
out.
They
gave
him
money
for
gambling
and
they
totally
totally
changed
it
over
because
they
wanted
to
privatize
it
so
that
they
can
exploit
the
gas
and
not
the
electric.
So
we've
been
here
before
my
question
is:
what
are
you
guys
going
to
do
about
it.
H
Hi,
thank
you
blair,
beekman
here.
Thank
you
for
the
words
of
paul
soto.
You
know
I
thank
you
to
the
to
the
speaker
offering
ideas
about.
You
know
you
that
you
actually
will
be
using
cell
phone
data
collection
ideas.
It's
nice.
You
were
open
enough
to
offer
that
I
hope
in
the
future.
You
know
people
from
the
city
can
offer
exactly
what
and
where
they're
collecting
that
cell
phone
data
as
paul
asked.
H
If
you
can
do
that
next
step,
that's
that's
how
we
build
our
steps
to
better
openness
and
and
good
practices.
So
thank
you.
You
know
I've
been
talking
about.
You
know
learning
how
to
prepare
for
the
next
five
to
ten
years
of
a
natural
disaster,
and
you
know
if
we're
it's
quite
possible.
We
could
have
a
serious
natural
disaster
in
the
next
five
years
and
if
that's
the
case,
you
know
how
do
we
prepare
for
that,
and
you
know.
H
I
think
that
if
something
does
happen
in
the
next
five
years
after
2025,
I
think
we'd
be
in
a
really
good
space
to
be
able
to
really
build
our
good
future
and
it's
what
we
can
do
now.
It's
our
good
practices
now
that
can
ensure
us
to
build
that
good
future
and
make
a
quicker
transition
out
of
you
know.
Whatever
calamity
may
happen
in
the
next
few
years
now
I
think
we've
learned
important
lessons
from
that
from
kovid.
H
You
know
we
in
certain
ways
we
prepared
for
kovid
and
we've
been
able
to
more
quickly
come
out
of
that
time.
Now,
if
we
do
that
with
renewable
energy
ideas,
to
make
sure
we
always
have
open
public
policy
ideas
and
don't
go
apathetic
or
lazy
or
just
think
that,
well,
you
know
we
have
a
disaster
coming.
We
don't
have
to
prepare.
H
You
know,
let's
not
do
that.
Let's,
let's
do
our
good
practices,
and
you
know
I
that
that
that's
how
we
can
make
a
better
transition
to
the
good
future
that
is
being
offered
here.
These
ideas
of
you
know
natural
gas
reduction
were
way
ahead
before
covert
19..
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
You,
okay,
why
don't
we
come
back
to
the
committee
and
before
I
call
on
my
colleagues
ken?
Could
you
just
since
it
came
up,
would
you
mind
just
confirming
I
I
assume
that
the
google
data
that
we're
able
to
access
is
is
both
opt-in
and
and
aggregate
anonymized
data?
Would
you
mind
just
to
the
extent
that
you
know
just
confirming
that.
A
Great,
so
it's
anonymized
and
folks
do
have
to
agree
to
share
it
and
can
opt
out
if
they
don't
want
to.
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
was.
That
fact
was
just
stated
on
the
record
great
okay.
Why
don't
we
jump
into
comments
and
I
think
council,
member
cohen,
was
up
first
yeah.
I
Thank
you
and
thank
you
for
that
and
for
that
great
report
and
for
the
work
you're
doing,
I'm
probably
one
really
really
important
subject
as
we
work
to
get
our
our
carbon
footprint
as
low
as
possible,
and
you
know
when
you
see
those
graphs,
it
can
be
a
bit
discouraging
because
we
see
such
small
changes
each
year,
and
you
know
we
know
we
need
much
more,
but
I
know
we're
working
really
hard
to
try
to
bring
it
down.
I
have
some
questions
about
some
of
the
data.
First,
the
transportation
part.
I
I
know
that
that
that's
probably
the
hardest
one
to
quantify
accurately,
but
you
know
over
time
our
you
know
the
fleets
of
vehicles
change
the
kinds
of
cars
people
drive
change,
we
kind
of
have
data
about
how
far
people
are
driving
are
those
changing.
Are
we
adjusting,
then
how
we?
What
kind
of
numbers
we
give
to
the
missions
and
based
on
what
we
think
the
kind
of
fleets
are
that
are
being
driven
around
town
as
based
on
you
know,
as
we
get
the
mileage
each
year?
How
is
that
being
handled
over
time?.
E
Yeah
as
we
it's
definitely
an
evolving
science,
as
as
we
go
forward
with
each
inventory,
we're
looking
for
the
the
newest
and
best
available
data
and
as
well
as
any
changes
in
methodology
in
term
in
terms
of
parameters
that
we
should
be,
including
in
that
analysis
for
the
city
fleet.
There's
there's
a
plan
in
place
to
get
it
fully
electrified.
E
On
top
of
the
existing
green
fleece
policy,
which
I
think
goes
back
over
10
years
now
so
yeah
we're
always
revising
always
updating
and
trying
to
get
our
best
guess
even
better.
I
Yeah-
and
I
guess
I
used
the
word
fleet
and
the
movie
misled
a
little
bit
about
my
question-
not
necessarily
relying
talking
about
the
city
fleet
but
we're
estimating
how
all
of
our
residents
are
driving
and
what
kind
of
missions
that
causes.
So
we
have
to
kind
of
have
an
idea
about
what
what
kinds
of
vehicles
people
are
driving
and
how
they're
the
average
fuel
efficiency
of
all
those
vehicles
changes
with
time
right.
So
we
is
that
is
that
something
is
there.
I
Some
science-
or
I
shouldn't
say
science,
but
some
research
out
there
about
how
to
adjust
those
numbers
with
time,
as
we
do
those
calculations
each
year.
E
Yeah
you're
looking
at
sources
like
dmv
vehicle
registration,
which
tells
us
that
that
we
live
in
a
one
of
the
higher,
if
not
the
highest,
ev
capitals
of
the
world.
If
you
will.
But
we
also
rely
on
data
from
the
california
air
resources
board
relative
to
the
emissions
aspect
and.
I
When
we
do
the
emissions
in
our
city,
are
we
also
including
emissions
of
vehicles
that
pass
through
and
not
just
of
our
residents?
So,
for
example,
you
know
truck
traffic
and
or
end
commuters,
who
come
through
our
cities
on
the
highways
that
aren't
necessarily
moving
from
point
a
to
point
b,
just
within
our
city.
E
So
we
have
three
different
scopes:
emission
scopes
that
we
look
at
one
and
two
are
those
that
are
most
local.
What
you're
describing
is
scope
three.
We
don't
currently
include
those
numbers
right
now,
if
we're
not
a
destination
or
a
point
of
origin,.
I
So
we're
so,
our
numbers
are
based
on
how
our
either
our
residents
or
people
who
work
here
are
contributing
to
the
admissions,
but
not
people
who
are
just
passing
through
from
other
jurisdictions.
E
Certainly,
an
approach
we
could
take
in
the
future
if
the
data
looked
reliable
is
to
get
a
more
comprehensive
picture
of
that
as
and
include
that
scope,
3.
I
I
You
made
a
comment
in
your
in
where
you
said
that
when
we
talk
about
decarbonizing
buildings
that
the
carbon
output
of
buildings
is
really
about
natural
gas,
but
I
would
argue
that
there's
you
know
that
there's
a
carbon
cost
even
of
electric
building
buildings
that
are
just
all
electric
for
the
electricity
use
of
buildings,
obviously
based
on
not
just
the
source
of
electricity,
but
on
you
know
if
we
have
a
higher
electricity
load,
there's
a
carbon
cost
to
having
to
build
more
generation
to
cover
the
amount
of
load.
I
E
Oh
absolutely,
and
those
are
programs
that
are
administered
by
folks
other
than
the
city,
be
it
bay,
ren.
E
The
state
pg
e,
have
those
energy
efficiency
programs
to
run,
and
eventually
san
jose
clean
energy
will
have
that
as
well.
E
When
we
talk
about
building
decarbonization
and
and
maybe
the
the
implication
that
we
don't
need
to
worry
about
electricity,
it's
because
of
where
we
know
san
jose,
clean
energy's
power
is
going
to
be
we're
a
little
farther
behind
than
we
thought.
We
would
be
at
this
point,
but
they
will
be
carbon
free
and
that
doesn't
mean
the
same
thing
as
100
renewable,
but
they
will
be
carbon
free
over
the
next
year
or
so,
and
that
means
that
that
electricity
that's
being
used
in
buildings
is
not
a
source
of
carbon
emissions.
E
You
could
go
deeper
and
say
that
construction
of
even
a
renewable
facility,
renewable
energy
facility
is
going
to
have
some
carbon
content
to
it
and
you'd
be
correct,
but
in
terms
of
the
power
supply,
we
know
that
that
electricity
side
of
things
is
going
to
be
pretty
clean
and
hopefully
100
renewable
by
2030..
I
Okay,
I
mean,
I
understand
the
the
idea.
I
I'm
I'm
hoping
that
we
change
our
thought
process
a
little
bit
on
that
topic,
because
I
also
think
of
the
overall
energy
usage
in
the
state
of
california
as
part
of
our
obligation
as
well.
And
so
we
can
argue
that
I
mean-
and
I
had
this
conversation
with
our
clean
energy
folks.
I
The
last
week
you
can
argue
that
if
we
built
just
enough
generation,
you
know
in
the
central
valley
to
say
we're
100
clean
in
san
jose,
we're
done,
but
we've
taken
up
all
the
capacity
of
clean
energy
in
the
state
and
therefore
the
rest
of
the
state
has
to
use
non-clean
sources
and
therefore
there's
more
carbon
being
emitted
by
our
neighbors.
We
haven't
really
solved
the
problem,
and
so
I
think
you
know
if
we
have
our.
I
We
talk
about
our
collective
responsibility
as
a
city
as
part
of
the
overall
solution
towards
you
know
towards
carb
neutrality
worldwide
and-
and
you
know,
part
of
the
paris
climate
accord,
I
would
argue
the
less
electricity
we
use,
the
more
of
it
is
available.
Clean
energy
is
available
for
the
rest
of
the
state.
The
faster
we've
transitioned
away
from
natural
gas
and
and
other
sources
of
energy
that
are
not
carbon,
neutral
statewide,
which
will
get
us
where
we
want
to
be
much
faster.
I
So
you
know,
I
think
we
ought
to
think
a
little
bit
about
how
we
frame
the
discussion
and
not
just
talk
about
our
city
being
carbon
neutral
and
talk
about
our
you
know
being
as
efficient
as
we
can,
while
also
getting
to
totally
100
renewable.
Another
reason
why
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
consider
to
continue
to
consider
local
sources
of
clean
energy
within
the
city,
rooftop,
solar
and
other
sources,
to
supplement
external
sources
so
that
those
sources
are
freed
up
for
other
jurisdictions
to
use
so
anyway,
I'm
just.
I
I
I've
actually
supported.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
that
we're
being
just
you
know,
continuing
to
push
ourselves
to
reduce
our
overall
energy
usage,
which
I
think
is
still
beneficial.
D
Yeah
and
if
I
could
just
do
a
little
bit
of
a
yes
and
to
that
council
member,
you
know,
there's
a
couple
of
things
we're
doing
internally
on
the
electrical
side
to
look
at
efficiencies.
We've
got
a
couple
of
different
pilot
projects
in
line
in
terms
of
really
understanding
our
energy
usage
and
to
your
point,
regardless
of
whether
it's
electrical
or
gas,
you
know
being
able
to
reduce
the
amount
of
power
that
we're
drawing
in
one.
D
It's
an
it's
a
it's
a
money
saver,
ultimately,
which
is
always
a
nice
thing
on
the
taxpayer
dollars
and
two.
You
know
the
science
around.
This
is
really
advancing
rapidly,
there's
some
some
folks
out
of
austria
as
a
a
as
a
demo,
a
prototype.
This
is
not
something
that
you
can
scale
yet,
but
they
took
a
a
typical
office
building
and
they
revamped
it
to
get
see
how
much
they
could
reduce
the
amount
of
electricity
that
was
being
used.
D
They
were
able
to
reduce
the
amount
of
electricity
being
used
in
that
building
by
96,
right
and
and
without
diminishing
the
functionality
of
the
building.
I
mean
they
did
all
sorts
of
crazy
stuff
which
is
not
cost
affordable
yet,
but
it
was,
it
was
able
to
demonstrate
that
the
that
we
essentially
have
vastly
inefficient
buildings
that
we
currently
are
using,
and
so
your
point
is
extremely
well
taken.
D
The
other
thing
that
I
would
add
on
buildings,
which
is
a
real
carbon
cost,
is
actually
the
demolition
of
buildings,
the
destruction
and
and
of
buildings,
and
the
and
all
of
the
carbon
that
is
liberated
in
the
in
the
demolition
process
is
a
huge
contributor
to
the
carbon
footprint
and
so
building
buildings
that
last
longer
and
are
are
organic
and
can
be
reused
and
repurposed
is
also
another
way
that
we
can
think
about.
D
Our
buildings
can
significantly
contributing,
so
we
take
both
of
your
feedback
as
as
in
line
with
what
we're
thinking
and
appreciate
the
the
the
care
on
the
framing
as
well.
I
Yeah
and
I'm
glad
you
said
that
I
do
sometimes
get
a
little
bit,
I
mean,
I
think,
that
our
redevelopment
and
our
densification
of
our
neighborhoods,
you
know
our
where
it's
appropriate
when
we
add
going
to
density,
is
great,
but
sometimes
I
get
a
little
bit
nervous
when
we're
talking
about
taking
something,
that's
there
and
demolishing
it
to
build
something
new,
because
I
know
there's,
obviously
an
environmental
cost
of
doing
that.
So
I
appreciate
that
you
mentioned
that
I
just
want
just
to
just
follow
up
a
little
bit.
I
I
So
I
was
wondering
if
there's
a
way
for
us
to
use
that
going
forward
about
how
we
can
quantify-
and
I'm
not
just
talking
about
city
inventory,
but
you
know
all
the
buildings
in
our
city,
private,
public
buildings,
commercial
residential,
how
we
kind
of
rank
buildings,
as
far
as
if
we
were
to,
for
example,
have
some
source
of
money
to
available
to
retrofit
certain
buildings
and
put
resources
into
certain
parts
of
the
city
in
certain
buildings.
Where
would
we
get
the
biggest
bang
for
the
buck
as
far
as
energy
efficiency
improvements?
I
You
know
in
terms
of
ranking
those
structures?
What
are
the
you
know,
the
oldest
ones,
the
ones
that
are
you
know
have
the
lowest
quality.
Do
we
have
the
ability
at
some
point
to
do
such
a
ranking
where
we
could
target
retrofits?
That
would
actually
help
us
reduce
our
energy
usage
city-wide
and
improve
our.
E
The
building
performance
ordinance
that
I
mentioned
actually
tees
off
of
a
a
state
requirement
to
for
buildings
to
simply
benchmark
how
well
their
buildings
perform.
E
We
assumed
the
responsibility
for
collection
of
that
data
in
the
passage
of
that
ordinance
and
and
and
share
that
data
up
to
the
state
when
we
collected
but
again
that
that
energy
star
portfolio
manager
score
is
what's
measuring
the
building's
energy
performance
and
there's
a
water
analog
to
that
as
well.
So
we
can
look
at
that.
Certainly,
buildings
that
are
falling
under
that
75
point
threshold
that
categorizes
them
as
as
high
performing,
would
be
a
place
to
start.
I
A
Thanks,
council
members,
some
great
points
and
questions
and
I'll
just
add
that
serving
on
the
city's
clean
energy
advisory
commission,
I
was
always
a
little
frustrated
with
the
fact
that
even
we
are
100
renewable
through
trading
credits,
we're
still
as
reliant
on
on
reliable
base
power
load
as
anybody
and
that's
often
gas,
speaker
plants
or
other
other
sources.
So
you
made
some
some
really
important
points
there.
Okay,
let
me
pass
it
over
to
council
member
fully.
J
Great
thank
you
and
great
questions.
Council
member
colin
hadn't
been
thinking
in
that
direction,
so
I
appreciate
the
comments
that
you
had
to
make.
I
have
some
questions
regarding
our
paris
climate
agreement
and
the
goals
that
we
have
set
there
and
where
we
are
in
in
meeting
them,
particularly
where
are
we
in
meeting
the
goal
of
one
gigawatt
of
solar
power
in
the
city?
How
how
close
are
we
to
that.
E
I'd
say
a
little
under
40
percent
at
the
at
the
time
the
plan
was
adopted.
Rooftop
solar
was
a
was
what
was
being
looked
at
in
terms
of
adding
local
supply.
E
That
was
renewable
and
since
that
time,
you've
seen
the
emergence
of
the
community
choice
aggregations
or
the
ccas
like
san
jose,
clean
energy
that
are
going
out
there
and
trying
to
procure
that
on
a
municipal
scale,
in
addition
to
the
to
the
the
sun
setting
of
the
the
state
level
rebates
on
installation
of
solar,
so
that's
slowed
down
a
bit.
E
I
think
it
still
makes
sense
and
it's
something
that
sends
a
clean
energy
or
the
community
energy
department
is
going
to
pursue
in
terms
of
that
having
that
local
reliability,
especially
in
light
of
the
great
issues.
E
Oh,
no,
that's
that's
across
the.
E
J
So
you
see
everywhere
at
school
districts
and
parking
lots
all
over
that
they've
put
up
solar
power
panels
in
order
to
reduce
their
their
electrical
costs
too,
and
I
was
on
san
jose
unified
when
we
were
the
first
school
district
to
actually
the
first
public
agency
to
install
five
megawatts,
which
sounds
like
nothing
today,
but
five
megawatts
of
power
back
in
2000
solar
panels
back
in
2008,
I
think,
is
when
we
did
that.
So
I
was
very
proud
to
to
be
a
part
of
that
just
to
toot
my
horn,
a
little
bit.
J
Do
we
now
I
want
to
look
at
the
the
development,
the
40
000
dwelling
units
that
we
are
suggesting
or
that
that
is
our
goal
in
by
2030..
That's
only
nine
years
away,
we're
not
going
to
make
that
goal,
and
what
concerns
me
about
that
is
that
it's
reliant
on
urban
villages
as
it
should
be,
because
that
is
where
we
should
be
growing
densely
as
because
the
urban
villages
have
the
transit
corridors
built
in.
But
most
of
our
urban
villages
do
not
have
development,
do
not
have
development
plans
yet.
J
So
how
can
we
move
that
initiative
further?
Along
we're,
not
we're
not
even
close
to
meeting
the
mayor's
20
000,
but
meeting
40
is
a
really
a
laudable
goal
and
it
would
achieve
the
goal
of
reducing
that
the
vehicle
miles
traveled.
The
number
of
employees
who
are
on
the
road
who
are
living
in
lower
cost
areas
to
get
to
work.
So
it's
important,
but
I
see
it
as
a
major
stumbling
block
in
in
having
us,
actually
realize
that
that
goal
that
aspiration
any
thoughts.
E
Well,
when
the
plan
was
developed,
certainly
everyone's
best
effort
went
into
those
projections
and
identifying
how
we
were
going
to
meet
those
goals.
I
think
the
key
right
now
is
to
continue
to
adaptively
manage
our
progress
in
light
of
a
pandemic
in
light
of
a
speed
up
or
slow
down
in
terms
of
a
number
of
new
units,
and
that's
why
we
we're
going
to
keep
up
this.
E
These
inventories
on
an
annual
basis,
be
it
municipal
or
community,
wide
and
keep
reporting
out
to
committees
like
this
and
city
council,
to
highlight
that
progress
and
where
we
think
we
need
to
pick
up
the
slack.
If,
if
we're
not
getting
it
in
one
area,
then
it
will
need
to
come
from
somewhere
else.
J
Well,
it's
really
development
is
really
important.
Housing
is
very
important.
The
the
greater
number
of
housing
stock
we
have
in
those
urban
villages
will
reduce
transportation,
needs
lower
greenhouse
gas
emissions
and
actually
reduce
stress
on
our
employees,
who
have
to
commute
so
far
to
get
to
get
home,
but
it
also
comes
at
another
cost,
which
is
reducing
water
usage
by
30
percent.
J
But
if
we're
increasing
the
number
of
housing
units,
how
can
we
reduce
the
num,
the
water
usage
as
well?
It
seems
counter
intuitive.
I
mean
it's
important,
but
every
time
as
we're
developing
projects,
I
have
a
big
project
coming
into
district
nine
cambrian
park
plaza
that
will
have
a
lot
of
housing
units
and
one
of
the
questions
we're
we're
not
approved
yet.
But
one
of
the
questions
is
what
about
water?
How
will
are
you?
Do
we
take
consider
consideration
into
how
water
will
be
concerned
for
the
infrastructure
of
that
project?
E
Well,
just
to
clarify
that
the
water
goal
is
on
a
per
capita
basis,
so
we're
trying
to
shrink
that
as
the
population
grows,
we
can
try
to
do
that
predominantly
through
reducing
or
eliminating
the
use
outdoors,
which
is
which
is
a
big
source
of
that
consumption
on
lawns
and
things
like
that
and
really
the
thought
behind
embrace
our
california
climate
is
to
do
more
that
way
in
terms
of
xeriscaping
and
not
applying
water
outside,
but
expanding
our
our
alternative
supplies
like
recycle
water
and
gray
water
systems
as
well.
J
So
install
implementing
or
in
planting
drought,
resistant
plants
and
native
plants
that
sort
of
thing
not
not
big,
green
lawns
like
we
have
in
you,
know,
yeah.
E
The
idea
behind
the
the
good
life
2.0
was
that,
if
you,
if
you
modeled,
let's
say
1.0-
was
this
1950s
era,
vision
of
of
living
well
and
everything
was
gigantic.
Your
car,
your
house,
you
had
to
heat
this
huge
house.
You
had
to
put
gas
in
this
huge
vehicle
and
have
a
lush
green
lawn,
we're
trying
to
move
away
from
those
kinds
of
choices
and
still
demonstrate
that
quality
of
life
will
not
suffer.
J
Yeah,
I
absolutely
agree:
quality
of
life
will
not
suffer
if
we
don't
have
big
green
lawns.
Although
I
live
on
a
corner
and
I'll
report
it
now,
I
do
have
a
green
lawn.
It's
been
there
when
I
moved
in
over
30
years
ago,
question
for
you
regarding
incentives
for
leed
certified
buildings.
Do
we
give
incentives
to
developers
to
achieve
leed
certification.
E
That
is
one
I
would
have
to
ask
my
colleagues
in
in
pbce
the
the
lead
requirements
such
as
they
are
reside
there.
I
haven't
heard
a
lot
of
activity
on
that
program.
Recently,
it's
been
more
focused
on
energy
use
and
type
of
energy.
J
And
should
we
thank
you,
and
I
appreciate
that
so
I'll
I'll-
bring
that
up
to
to
that
group,
but
have
we
considered
well,
maybe
this
is
for
them
as
well,
encouraging
rooftop,
gardens
and
rooftop
park
space
in
order
to
green
our
environment
a
little
bit
more,
just
something
to
throw
out
there,
and
maybe
I
need
to
bring
that
up,
but
at
the
at
planning
and
development.
E
I
I
do
know,
there's
an
active
discussion
right
now
on
pursuing
some
urban
greening
dollars.
That
include
features
like
that,
and
I
know
our
our
substation
police
substation
down
on
graduates
has
a
green
roof,
as
does
happy
hollow
so
we're
seeing
some
of
that
come
come
into
play
in
the
city.
J
That's
great,
thank
you.
Okay.
I
have
a
couple
of
questions.
I
really
appreciate
your
answers
and
ken
enjoy
your
retirement.
I
loved
hearing
council
member
mayan
talk
about
your
your
achievements
while
you've
been
with
the
city
of
san
jose,
so
thank
you
for
your
contributions
to
the
city
and
to
us,
and
I
I
am
grateful
that
for
that,
and
I
hope
you
enjoy
your
your
different
time
away
from
the
city.
If,
if
you
can
stand
that
much
yeah.
H
E
J
That's
great,
and
and
finally
I
want
to
talk
to
you
about
the
community
co-creation.
J
Does
that
reference
you're
talking
about?
Are
you
talking
about
retrofitting
our
buildings
and
removing
gas
where
it
is
and
replacing
it
with
electricity
all
build?
So
so
our
reach
codes
affect
new
construction.
This
would
affect
affect
existing
construction.
E
Yeah,
so
ultimately,
yes,
the
the
the
effort
right
now
is
really
establishing
this
dialogue
and
partnership
with
our
our
community
groups
and
and
understanding
what
the
barriers
are.
One
of
those
immediately
has
been
just
awareness.
E
A
lot
of
the
members
of
those
groups
have
not
dealt
with
climate
mitigation
actions
before
they've
they've
been
focused
on
other
activities
that
help
improve
their
communities,
but
ultimately
we'll
get
there
as
it's
designed
to
inform
what
comes
next-
and
we
know,
one
of
the
big
barriers
with
the
groups
you're
talking
with
are
that
most
of
their
residents
are
renters.
E
So
how
do
we?
How
do
we
incentivize
a
retrofit
in
a
multi-family
building
where
the
expense
may
go
to
initially
the
the
property
owner
without
having
that
get
passed
down
to
residents
that
are
already
stressed?
How
do
they
enjoy
better
health
impacts
that
come
from
not
having
natural
gas
inside
your
home?
E
So
there's
a
lot
to
work
through
there.
We
were
able
to
find
funding
through
a
couple
of
our
partners
through
the
challenge
to
help
compensate
them
for
their
time
in
this
effort
and,
and
that
continues
to
come
through
trying
to
keep
that
going.
As
we
move
forward,
because
we
don't
want
to
have
a
a
process
where
we
engage
with
them
and
then
and
that
lasts
for
a
couple
months
and
then
we
disappear
and
find
some
money
again
in
a
year
and
come
back
and
pick
it
up
from
there.
E
It
will
target
all
of
them,
but
we're
looking
again
at
different
demographic
factors
like
income
levels,
where
there's
already
a
high
pollution
burden,
be
it
air
water,
soil
that
kind
of
thing
where
there's
already
a
high
utility
burden.
So
these
these
community
members
are
paying
more
relative
to
their
income
levels
than
than
folks
elsewhere
in
the
city.
J
Okay,
so
what
are
you
considering
is
the
next
step
with
this,
because
I
do
have
some
concerns
about
it.
Have
we
reached
out
since
you're
incorporate?
I
mean
the
there's
the
equity
component,
where
it
could
increase
the
cost
of
housing
for
those
who
are
unable
to
pay
their
rent.
Currently,
so
I'm
very
concerned
about
that.
J
I'm
concerned
about
this
type
of
retrofit
in
conjunction
with
the
and
I'm
gonna
use
the
wrong
term.
The
the
soft,
the
the
soft
part
parking
garage
underneath
the
building
where
we
have
to
do
soft
retrofitting.
What's
the
terminology
for
that,
you
all
know
what
I'm
talking
about
soft
story.
Thank
you.
So
maybe
there's
a
combination:
we're
going
to
be
requiring
property
owners
to
retrofit
that
so
it's
earthquake
safe.
J
J
I'm
really
concerned,
if
you
do
not
reach
out
to
the
to
the
single-family
home
owners,
they're
gonna
they're
already
concerned
about
opportunity,
housing
that
that's
going
to
come
forward
potentially
and
the
idea
that
they're
going
to
be
required
to
remove
their
gas
stove
at
a
cost
to
them
or
their
gas
water
heater
at
a
cost
to
them
is
going
to
be
a
big
discussion.
J
E
J
E
Of
course,
not
that
that
would
be
something
we'd
want
to
avoid
and
at
the
very
top
of
that
list,
let
me
let
me
give
you
a
little
more
detail.
What
we're
working
on
with
the
co-creation
is
the
development
of
a
road
map
on
how
to
go
forward
and
that
that's
expected
to
be
done
towards
the
end
of
the
end
of
june,
in
conjunction
with
the
end
of
the
american
cities,
climate
challenge.
E
Secondly,
there's
no
one's
going
to
be
forced
to
do
anything.
It's
it's
really
like
identifying.
What
what
are
the
barriers?
Where
can
we
design
incentives
that
provide
the
most
bang
for
the
buck
for
those
who
are
willing
to
do
it,
and
we
know
that
the
communities
we're
talking
to
are
going
to
need
the
most
assistance
with
that,
so
nothing
mandatory
on
the
horizon.
E
B
Thanks
chair
and,
first
of
all,
ken
again,
congratulations
on
your
pending
retirement,
a
couple
quick
questions.
One
is
trying
to
understand
what
non-local
flights
are
and
two.
The
second
part
of
that
question
is:
if
it's,
if
it
can't
be
influenced
by
municipal
intervention
or
policy,
why
are
we
even
including
it
as
part
of
our
measurements.
E
It's
it's
something
just
to
look
at
in
terms
of
san
jose's
portion
of
a
particular
flight,
those
that
aren't
originating
here,
and
it's
not
something
that
we're
we're
bound
to
it's.
Just
if
you,
if
you
start
to
look
at
those
scope,
3
emissions
like
that
you're
getting
a
little
bit
better
understanding
of
what
what
our
emissions
look
like
on
the
ground
level.
E
B
Okay,
the
reason
why
I
asked
that
question
is
oftentimes
when
you're
trying
to
compare
the
results
of
your
efforts
versus
the
benchmark.
If
you
have
variables
that
you
can't
influence
it's
going
to
potentially
skew
your
your
data
and
and
your
outcomes,
so
that's
the
reason
why
I
raised
that.
Also,
a
future
of
natural
gas
is
that
another
area
where
we
can't
influence
the
through
municipal
action.
E
Not
directly
so
the
way
we
would
influence
it
is
by
reducing
our
the
use
of
it
as
an
end
point
here,
the
less
we
import
into
the
city,
the
less
of
those
fugitive
emissions
that
we
we
might
consider
as
kind
of
our
portion
of
that.
B
I've
been
reading
a
lot
and
seeing
a
lot
about
utilizing
nuclear
as
an
option,
and
I
know
that
particularly
in
the
environmental
community,
there's
some
a
lot
of
resistance
to
nuclear,
but
it
is
a
very
viable
source
of
energy
and
there's
new
technology
that'll
allow
you
to
safely
store
and
actually
reuse
the
waste.
E
Not
that
I
know
of
I
would
I
would
have
to
defer
that
to
our
our
colleagues
in
clean
energy
regarding,
like
the
portfolio
decisions
that
they're
going
to
make.
Certainly
that
would
fall
into
a
a
carbon-free
category,
but
not
renewable.
E
So
that's
something
that
that
clean
energy
would
have
to
decide
on
if
it
makes
sense
or
not.
If
it's
it's
taking
the
portfolio
in
a
direction
they
want
taking
rates
in
the
direction
they
want.
That
kind
of
thing,
great.
A
I
To
jump
in
on
a
nuclear
question,
I
did
ask
that
question
last
week,
because
if
you
look
at
the
archbine
energy
san
jose
clean
energy,
the
portfolio
one
that
talks
about
being
clean,
100,
clean
versus,
not
100,
clean,
the
difference
was
that
one
had
nuclear
one
didn't,
and
I
was
I
pushed
I.
I
I
asked
that
question
too
I'd
say
well,
both
are
carbon-free,
so
you
know
we're
we're,
there's
a
little
bit
of
politics
being
used
when
when
we
talk
about
what's
clean
and
what's
not,
and
so
we
ought
to
have
that
conversation
in
the
city
as
to
whether
you
know
nuclear
part
of
the
portfolio
and
I've
been
I've
been
on
the
opposite
side,
a
lot
of
my
environmental
friends
on
this
conversation
in
the
past,
similar
to
what
I
said
before
about
electricity
and
reducing
electricity
use.
I
Until
we
have
phased
out
carbon-based
sources
of
electricity
in
the
state,
we
shouldn't
be
phasing
out
nuclear.
First,
that's
my
opinion.
Nuclear
is
carbon-free
and
if
our
biggest
threat
is
carbon-based
climate
change,
we
should
not
be
phasing
out
non-carbon
emitting
sources
of
energy
that
exists
currently,
which
would
mean
preserving
carbon-based
sources
longer.
So,
anyway,
that
it's
a
conversation
that
you
know
potentially
san
jose,
could
have
and
read
on,
but
it's
a
it's
a
harass
to
get
into
that
conversation.
Nothing
too.
A
Yeah,
well
I
fully
support.
Having
that
conversation,
I
I
agree.
The
the
research
I've
looked
at
implies
that
unless
we
have
a
major
scientific
breakthrough
on
storage,
we're
going
to
need
something
like
that
to
actually
get
to
our
goals.
It's
going
to
be
very
hard
without
it,
so
yeah.
That
will
be,
I
think,
a
good
conversation
for
us
to
have.
As
a
city
I'll.
I
have
a
couple
questions
and
comments.
I'll
start
with
an
observation.
A
Councilmember
foley
had
mentioned
urban
villages,
and
I
also
am
quite
interested
in
the
question,
which
is
probably
not
most
appropriate
for
this
committee,
but
why
why
we?
Why
we're
not
on
track
with
our
urban
villages
and
what
we
need
to
do
to
get
on
track?
A
A
That
out
there,
because
I
was
surprised
by
that,
but
I
thought
it
was
very
relevant
to
this
conversation
and
councilmember
foley's
comments
to
get
to
a
couple,
quick
questions
and
obviously
ken
or
anyone
if
you
want
to
chime
in
on
that
feel
free,
but
questions
I
had
so
ken
one
question
I
was
just
trying
to
wrap
my
head
around
here
is
just
the
framework
here.
A
A
What
is
the
expected
impact
and
then
measuring
the
actual
and
then
getting
smarter
as
we
go
based
on
whether
or
not
the
strategies
were
picking
or
achieving
the
kind
of
emission
reduction
that
we
expected,
and
I
didn't
I
didn't
anywhere
quite
see.
This
strategy
is
expected
to
reduce
carbon
this
much
and
that
contributes
to
the
overall
goal.
This
much,
I
didn't
quite
see
the
connective
tissue
between
those
things,
and
maybe
I've
just
missed
it,
but
I
just
I
wanted
to
share
that
and
ask
if
you
could
help
clarify
at
all.
E
A
Sure,
okay,
that's
fair,
but
the
the
strategies
we're
implementing
are
presumably
being
prioritized
based
on
an
assumed
amount
of
reduction
and
we
are
measuring
whether
or
not
it's
achieving
the
assumed
reduction.
Yes,
okay,
and
we
could
capture
that
in
a
dashboard,
as
opposed
to
just
kind
of
the
the
top
level
emissions.
We
could
also
have
a
dashboard,
I'm
not
sure
if
it
doesn't
seem
to
me
that
we
currently
do,
but
the
dashboard
could
contain
here's
the
real-time
analysis
of
this
strategy
as
it's
being
implemented
and
the
impact
it's
having
is.
That
is
that
right.
E
It's
a
little
harder
to
do
real
time
just
because
of
how
the
data
comes
in
and
and
how
long
it
takes
for
us
to
gather
that
even
getting
to
like
the
annual
inventory
of
one
form
or
another
is
is
a
full-time
job
and
and
a
lot
of
times
we're
dependent
on
the
collection
of
data
from
utilities
like
pg
e,
that
that
can
take
six
months
or
longer
to
to
arrive
but
kind
of.
E
Why
you
see
the
the
inventories
that
we
showed
today
being
dated
back
two
or
three
years.
A
Makes
sense
so
our
learning
cycle
is
going
to
be
slower,
but
ideally
at
least
on
an
annual
or
every
two
or
three
year
basis.
We
could
look
at
a
strategy
and
say:
hey
is,
is
our
number
one
strategy
in
this
category
actually
producing
the
impact?
We've
thought
it
sounds
like
we
are.
We
are
doing
that.
I
know
I'm
relatively
new
to
this
conversation.
E
Well,
we
will
do
an
update
as
well
and
and
add
most
likely
a
couple
of
new
elements
to
the
plan
that
are
additional
opportunities
to
reduce
or
sequester
carbon,
and
that
five-year
mark
is
around
fiscal
year.
22-23
there'll
be
some
significant
lead
time
for
that,
but
I
know
that,
as
I
walk
out
the
door
folks
are
thinking
about
that
actively.
A
Great
okay,
thanks,
that's
good
to
know,
I'm
excited
for
that,
and
then
along
those
lines
you
know
I
was
interested
to
read
a
little
bit
more
about
the
climate.
Smart
challenge,
which
is
which
is
a
pretty
cool
program,
and
I
know
we
have
just
over
500
homes
and
enrolled
in
that
and
I'll
have
to
sign
my
family
up
for
it.
I'm
curious
it
may
be
too
soon,
but
do
we
know
yet
and
are
we
able
to
measure
accurately
the
impact
of
that
challenge
on
the
folks
who
enroll
in
the
program.
E
Yeah
I
mean
they're
self-reporting
and
saying
that
they've
done
that
I
don't
have
that
number
off
the
top
of
my
head,
but
we
can
provide
that
that
data
back
to
the
committee
yeah
and.
A
Is
there
a
way
to
go
beyond
self-reporting?
Could
we
get
from
pg
e
or
whoever
it
might
be?
An
actual
report
out
on
that
on
in
on
those
home
and
obviously
you'd
want
to
anonymize
and
aggregate
and
all
that,
but
could
we
see
as
more
and
more
homes
are
enrolled,
the
actual
measurable
impact
on
their
carbon
footprint.
E
So
we've
explored
that
with
the
platform
provider
where
users
could
opt
in
to
a
disclosure
kind
of
situation
like
that,
we
can't
get
that
from
pg
e.
It's
exceedingly
sensitive,
to
publish
anything
like
that.
That's
not
aggregated
at
a
pretty
broad
level,
so
we'd
have
to
have
an
option
on
the
site
to
say
at
my
house,
I'm
happy
to
share
that.
I
saved
x
amount
of
energy
by
doing
these
actions.
A
Okay,
interesting
and
then
I'm
I'm
curious.
You
know
given
that
emissions
you
know,
local
emissions,
particularly
from
vehicles,
let's
say
or
industry,
can
have
serious
health
impacts.
Are
we
I
didn't
see,
and
I
know
this-
isn't
the
comprehensive
everything
we're
doing
on
climate
smart.
I
know
we're
a
bit
more
focused
on
buildings
here,
but
I'm
just
curious.
Do
we
look
at
the
distributional
effects
of
emissions
by
sort
of
geography
within
our
city
and
think
about
prioritizing
these
strategies
based
on
environmental
justice?
If
you
will.
E
We
do
we
have
over
the
past
year
and
a
half
with
our
partners
through
the
american
cities.
Climate
challenge
have
assembled
a
a
a
pretty
robust
data
set
based
on
census,
tract
information
and
through
that
we
know
which
census
tracts
have
higher
pollution
burdens.
Higher
energy
bill
burdens,
higher
heat
risk.
E
A
E
We're
we're
working
on
I,
I
won't
even
call
pilot
level,
yet
a
conceptual
level
model
of
how
to
do
that.
Okay,
and
how
to
apply
all
these
different
kind
of
beneficial
climate
strategies
to
a
neighborhood
cool.
But
that's
that's
a
bit
of
a
sneak
preview
for
you.
A
Okay,
good
yeah,
that's
why
I
asked
the
probing
questions.
I
think
that's
that's
important.
I'm
sure
my
colleagues
would
agree
great
couple,
other
quick
questions
and
then
we'll
I'll
entertain
a
motion.
You
know
it
also
seems
obviously
after
wastewater
treatment
and
actually
let
me
just
go
there
first.
I
was
also
amazed.
I
learned
a
lot
from
your
report,
so
wastewater
treatment,
very
energy
and
carbon
intensive.
A
I
noticed
the
you
know,
I
believe
it's
two-thirds.
E
Not
not
so
much
shifting
to
electricity,
but
definitely
so
the
the
majority
of
that
the
gas
use
there
is
from
the
digester
gas.
So
what
would
be
categorized
as
a
bio
biogas?
Natural
biogas,
in
other
words
it's
replacing
gas
that
otherwise
might
be
vented
to
the
atmosphere
like
from
a
landfill
or
something?
E
What
they're
exploring
right
now
is
reconnecting
to
the
newbie
island,
landfill
and
and
getting
that
gas
sent
over
there.
The
new
coat
generation
facility
has
got
some
amazing
technology
in
place
and
can
clean
effectively
clean,
dirtier
forms
of
gas
like
that,
like
landfill
gas
and
that
can
displace
the
the
amount
of
natural
gas
that
the
wastewater
facility
uses
from
the
pipeline.
A
E
Which
is
otherwise
right
now
the
landfill
is
just
burned
in
a
flare
with
some
resulting
emissions,
just
going
up
to
atmosphere.
A
Right,
okay
and
that
that
is
what
the
natural
gas,
because,
when
I
looked
at
table
five
on,
I
think
it's
page
26
of
the
the
inventory
document.
The
69-page
document,
natural
gas
had
its
own
line
item
at
66.4
of
the
total
wastewater
treatment
emissions,
whereas
the
digester
gas
and
the
distillate
that
those
were
much
smaller
proportions
and
you're.
Saying
that
the
use
of
natural
gas
there
is
is
what.
E
E
The
new
coaching
code
generation
facility
is
also
way
more
efficient
than
the
old
generator
sets
that
they
were
using
there
and
and
just
to
kind
of
put
the
wastewater
facility
in
perspective.
You're
you're
treating
wastewater
for
roughly
half
a
county
right,
yeah.
A
Yeah
yeah,
it's
a
lot:
okay,
well
I'll
ping,
you
offline,
then
I
table
five
under
energies.
E
So
we
have,
we
had
a
flexible
work
policy
prior
to
pilvid
that
allowed,
for.
I
think
it
was
like
a
pawn
approval
number
of
days
per
week
that
that
that
a
employee
could
do
from
home.
I
know
that
because
of
kovid
that
policy
has
been
re-looked
at,
I
think
adding
additional
flexibility.
D
Kevin
I'll
I'll
take
this,
so
we
actually
were
just
discussing
this
two
hours
ago
in
a
meeting
on
returning
to
work,
and
so
you
know,
as
as
people
have
realized
that
that
that,
for
many
of
us
we
can
work
remote
and
actually
be
highly
effective
and
and
perhaps
even
more
effective
in
in
a
few
cases
where
people
are
glad
not
to
see
us
like
myself,
we
want
to
con
our
existing
flexible
work
policy
that
ken
was
talking
about.
We've
dusted
that
off
and
revised
it
and
actually
found
out.
D
It
gives
us
a
great
deal
of
flexibility.
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
talked
about
as
we
return
to
work
is,
is
allowing
departments
flexibility,
because
every
every
department
and
every
work
group
within
each
department
can
have
highly
different
situations,
but
really
encouraging
people
to
be
continue.
Some
of
the
the
limited
upside
of
this
pandemic,
which
has
been
allowing
some
people
to
to
to
work
from
remotely
and
and
have
some
of
the
benefits
of
not
having
to
commute,
be
closer
to
home
and
join
their
neighborhood
parks,
et
cetera,
et
cetera.
D
So
it's
definitely
something
that
we'll
we'll
strategize
and
bring
forward,
as
we
do
our
hope
for
and
long
for
return
to
work
in
the
coming
months
as
we
get
those
shots
in
our
arms.
But
we
think
it
will
be
a
significant
shift
in
terms
of
people's
habits
and
patterns,
at
least
for
those
of
us
who
are
office
workers.
But
it's
important
to
remember
that
a
vast
majority
of
city
staff
are
not
people
like
me.
D
A
Yeah,
that's
that's
significant!
That's
about
a
third
of
the
city
workforce!
Great
thanks!
Kip!
That's
good!
To
hear!
Okay!
Well!
Unless
I
don't
see
any
other
hands
up,
would
love
to
entertain
a
motion
to
accept
the
staff
report.
J
A
C
Thank
you
chairman,
so
the
next
slide
we
have
the
firstnet
team
and
they're
going
to
bring
up
the
presentation
and
we'll
make
introductions
as
presented
to
the
committee
in
february.
During
the
roadmap
update.
The
first
note,
deployment
is
in
yellow
status.
We've
had
significant
progress
made
over
the
past
year,
we're
also
on
track
for
project
completion
with
some
additional
time
and
cost
factors
so
now
turning
it
over
to
abby.
L
Thank
you
rob
and
quickly
before
I
get
started.
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
to
ken
davies.
He
probably
left
the
meeting,
but
I
want
to
thank
him
for
his
leadership.
I
was
in
environmental
services
for
a
while
and
behind
me
is
the
regional
wastewater
facility
and
ken
gave
me
my
very
first
tour
of
this
facility
when
I
was
in
americorps
working
in
environmental
services.
L
So
what
is
firstnet
firstnet
is
the
nationwide
wireless
communications
platform
dedicated
exclusively
to
first
responders
and
public
safety.
Firstnet
was
formed
out
of
the
lessons
learned
from
the
september
11th
2001
terrorist
attacks
in
new
york
in
washington
d
dc,
which
revealed
fundamental
problems
with
the
first
responders
communications
systems,
police,
fire
and
other
emergency
personnel
could
not
easily
communicate
across
agencies
and
during
the
crisis,
land
and
mobile
phone
lines
were
overwhelmed
by
high
volume
of
calls.
L
Congress
addressed
these
challenges
by
creating
the
first
responder
network
authority,
with
a
mandate
to
establish
a
nationwide
broadband
network
for
public
safety
communications.
The
network
is
built
by
at
t
through
a
48.5
billion
dollar,
25-year
public-private
partnership
with
the
firstnet
authority.
Next
slide,
please,
the
firstnet
network
is
physically
separate,
redundant,
highly
secure
and
restored.
First
in
any
disaster,
all
public
safety
traffic
is
distinct
and
separate
from
commercial
users.
L
It
provides
priority
and
preemption
for
first
responders
for
both
voice
and
data
over
the
network.
Removing
commercial
traffic,
if
needed,
the
firstnet
network,
also
augments,
and
complements
the
public
safety,
land,
mobile
radio
project,
25
radio
system
by
providing
cellular
and
wi-fi
connectivity
for
data
enabling
live
maps
through
mobile
applications,
sharing
photos
and
video,
as
well
as
voice
interoperability
that
enhance
situational
awareness
and
safety.
L
Next
slide,
please
all
50
states
and
six
territories
have
opted
into
the
firstnet
network
and
san
jose
was
the
first
city
to
adopt
a
citywide
approach
to
firstnet
deployment
within
the
city.
We
have
two
types
of
firstnet
users:
we
have
our
primary
responders:
the
police
department,
fire
department
and
office
of
emergency
management,
and
we
have
extended
primary
users,
those
in
other
city
departments,
who
support
first
responders
and
provide
essential
government
services
during
an
emergency
and
in
its
aftermath,
next
slide.
Please.
L
Firstnet
provides
the
city
resilient
public
safety
communications
every
day
and
at
any
disaster
or
emergency,
and
to
ensure
network
availability
and
capacity
in
times
of
need.
Firstnet
has
a
lending
library
of
deployable
units
that
can
provide
temporary
service
during
emergencies
or
large
public
events
or
replacement
or
boosted
coverage
and
capacity
are
needed.
These
can
be
delivered
at
no
cost
within
14
hours
of
a
request
and
a
variety
of
options
are
available
to
match.
L
The
coverage
need
from
cellular
on
wheels
and
cellular
on
wings,
like
the
drone
in
the
center
photo
to
satellite
on
cell
satellite
cell
on
light
trucks
pictured
at
the
bottom.
This
one
is
parked
at
the
san
jose
police
department,
substation,
supporting
a
wildfire
drill
that
happened
in
june
2020
to
the
aerostat
blimp
in
the
photo
at
the
top,
which
provides
the
widest
coverage
area
of
all
the
deployables
now
I'll
turn
it
over
to
ashish
lakiani
products,
projects
manager
and
the
information
technology
department.
K
Thank
you,
abby
I'll,
be
talking
about
firstnet
deployment
timeline.
I've
been
helping,
the
firstnet
team
manage
the
project
and
we've
been
going
through
a
large
journey
and
we
have
a
path
ahead
towards
the
end
of
2019.
K
K
In
phase
two,
we
expanded
our
pilot
to
1883
devices,
the
largest
departments
that
deployed
in
this
phase
are
police
fire
office
of
emergency
management
and
public
works.
Thank
you
to
these
departments
for
being
the
first
as
part
of
our
first
major
deployment
phase,
two
really
gave
us
an
opportunity
to
create
deployment
plans,
learn
from
our
deployment
experience
and
work
on
a
modern
cellular
telephone
policy.
K
On
you
know,
what
kind
of
content
is
required
to
modernize
that
policy
that
to
make
it
more
effective
and
it
led
us-
and
it
gave
us
confidence
to
get
us
into
phase
three
which
lasted
from
october,
2020
to
march
2021,
the
end
of
this
month,
where
we
have
been
going
through
a
city-wide
rollout
and
we
will
reach
3404
devices
by
the
end
of
march.
So
this
is
a
city-wide
rollout
for
extended
primary
departments
and
the
remaining
primary
departments
in
phase
3.
K
We
purchased
vehicle
connectivity
equipment
and
we
started
vehicle
installations
which
will
lead
us
into
phase
four
phase,
four
lasts
from
april
2021
to
may
2022,
and
it
involves
ongoing
support
for
542
fleet
installations
and
any
remaining
extended
primary
rollouts.
We
will
also
be
doing
trade-ins
sending
our
devices
back
to
atnt
for
trading.
K
Firstnet,
the
firstnet
deployment
is
a
part
of
the
smart
city,
3.0
response
to
covet
19
roadmap,
it's
one
of
the
major
id
projects
and
it
falls
under
the
safe
city
category
right
there
in
the
center
right
now,
the
firstnet
project
is
in
yellow
status.
There's
been
a
six
month,
eoc
activation
delay.
These
are
the
first
six
months
after
covet,
19
started
and
city
departments
were
working
on
stabilization
of
operations.
K
We
drafted
the
policy,
but
it
was
very
important
to
capture
feedback
from
different
departments
that
play
a
role
in
that
policy
that
get
affected
by
it
to
make
sure
that
it
will
be
appropriate
and
the
way
it
has
to
be
for
for
being
that
policy
that
enhances
it
for
being.
Like
a
modernization
point
of
view,
department
of
transportation
and
environmental
services
needs
some
more
time
to
do
testing.
K
So
all
in
all,
we
are
on
track
for
completion
with
some
additional
time
and
costs
over.
Here
we
have
bar
charts
on
the
left,
is
connected
devices,
so
phones,
tablets
and
hotspots
and
on
the
right
is
fleet
vehicles.
These
are
consider
this
as
two
major
categories
of
connected
devices
on
the
left
for
phones,
tablets
and
hotspots.
We
are
78
percent
deployed
and
95
procured.
K
There's
a
small
light
blue
section
for
551
devices
that
are
in
process
and
a
light
gray
169
that
will
be
purchased
and
deployed
in
the
month
of
march
on
the
right
is
vehicles,
so
we
are
100,
procured
and
16
deployed.
K
I
want
to
say
posia
and
just
say
thank
you
to
dave
messer,
walter
lynn,
mario
razzo
and
matt
losch
from
public
works
fleet
services,
installation
team.
This
team's
been
working
really
hard
to
help
us
get
through
these
installations.
They're
a
complicated
process
where
the
connectivity
device
to
be
it
the
modem.
K
So
this
process
involves
pulling
out
upholstery,
putting
taking
parts
out
putting
parts
back
and
it's
a
significant
amount
of
work.
We
have
procured
the
equipment,
but
we
will
spend
the
rest
of
this
journey.
A
large
part
of
it
will
be
fleet
installations.
K
As
next
steps
in
the
project
we're
going
to
work
towards
approval
of
the
mobile
communications
and
devices
policy,
this
policy
expands
applicable
mobile
use
to
more.
K
K
When
it
comes
to
dealing
with
mobile
billing
ordering
reporting
on
the
roadmap
part
of
things,
our
team
will
be
working
closely
with
budget
and
departments
to
make
sure
we
move
to
green
status
and
to
figure
out
the
next
best
steps
support.
K
If
I,
if
I
you
know,
I
think
I
should
say
thank
you
to
atm
t
for
for
being
a
fabulous
partner
over
here,
but
we
will
continue
to
work
with,
with
with
the
att,
to
make
sure
the
network
is,
is
running
as
expected
and
to
support
city
departments
during
emergencies.
So,
as
departments
know,
the
users
and
departments
know
how
to
use
this
these
devices
during
an
emergency
and
to
continue
with
our
fleet
installations
for
vehicles
in
fire,
police
and
office
of
emergency
management.
K
If
you
have
worked
with
a
lot
of
people
whose
names
are
specified
are
over
here-
and
this
is
not
the
complete
list,
there
are
a
lot
of
people
who
work
with
these
people.
So
a
big
thank
you
to
our
stars
from
the
city
of
san
jose
and
at
t
police
department,
fire
department,
office
of
emergency
management,
public
works
cmo
office
of
civic
innovation,
information
technology
department,
budget
office
on
the
at
side,
external
affairs,
executive
team,
their
government
team,
the
consulting
team,
their
project
and
program
management,
team
deployment
and
business
executive
team.
K
As
mentioned,
those
are
not
the
only
names.
We
also
work
very
closely
with
citywide
liaisons
they're,
the
first
two
columns
on
the
left
and
the
columns
columns.
The
first
two
columns
on
the
right
side
are
firstnet
collaborators,
so
the
managers
of
the
people
on
the
left.
It's
not
only
about
the
resources
that
we
work
with
these
liaisons
across
the
city,
but
it's
also
a
you
know
a
thank
you
to
the
people
who
give
us
those
resources.
Their
managers,
the
first
night
city-wide
liaisons,
are
our
eyes
and
hands
into
the
worlds
of
their
departments.
K
K
We
have
a
picture
collection,
so
I'll
go
left
to
right
of
some
examples
of
these
devices
in
use
so
ali
rico,
a
public
information
representative
from
housing,
jessica,
flores
office,
specialist
from
independent
police
auditor,
russell
joyce,
environment,
inspector
from
environment
services,
daniel
flores,
environment
inspector
from
environmental
services,
public
works
inspector,
greg
martinez
at
t,
mobility,
team,
packing
devices
at
their
warehouse
fleet,
services,
installation
engineers,
doing
installation,
and
we
have
somebody
pointing
there
in
the
trunk
of
the
vehicle
and
ryan
summers.
K
Environment
is
inspector
from
environmental
services
team,
so
firstnet
with
phones
hotspots
connected
vehicles
has
touched
a
lot
of
lives
of
our
employees
in
the
city
and
has
made
them
and
will
continue
to
make
them
more
productive
for
serving
people
in
the
city
of
san
jose
and
doing
what
they
do
best
and
keeping
them
at
a
high
level
of
productivity.
K
And
with
that
I
come
to
the
last
slide
and
say
thank
you
for
the
attention
to
these
slides
and,
for
you
know,
we'd
be
open
to
questions,
but
thank
you
to
the
committee
city,
employees
and
everyone
assembled
over
here
and
I'll
hand.
The
ball
back
to
the
committee.
D
Thanks,
actually
I'll
actually
take
it,
if
I
could,
for
just
one
second
before
we
hand
it
over
to
you,
sir,
just
a
little
bit
of
high
level
framing
and
some
context
to
talk
about
really
the
great
work
that
ashish
and
abby
and
the
rest
have
so
well
described.
You
know
this
is
a
direct
outcome
of
our
small
cell
work
and
the
partnership
with
att.
This
literally,
would
not
have
happened
if
we
hadn't
delivered
on
our
promise
of
speed
and
reliability
in
in
that
deployment.
D
They
came
to
us
with
a
with
a
really
unique
deal
here,
that
included
extremely
steep
discounts
and
pricing
and
and
very
low
cost
plans
for
high
quality
data
and
and
throughput
and
part
of
the
reason
we're
able
to
get
that
deal
is
we
are.
We
are
one
of
the
first
in
the
nation,
in
fact,
the
first
in
the
nation
to
move
this
deeply
with
firstnet.
D
I
also
want
to
do
a
shout
out
to
andy
smith,
who
I
think
is
on
the
line,
because
we
were
also
instrumental
in
them
refining,
very
early
on
their
network,
giving
them
feedback
on
issues
and
essentially
alpha
and
beta
testing
this
with
them
in
ways
that
have
had
huge
results
for
the
nation
as
a
whole.
It
really
was
andy
smith
and
his
willingness
to
dig
down
into
painful
details
on
this
and
point
them
out
that
that
allowed
us
to
have
this
virtuous
cycle
of
innovation
and
improvement.
D
You
know
this
moves
us
to
mobile
effectively
as
an
organization,
and
it
moves
us
in
a
way
that
we've
got
devices
that
are
effective
and
also
more
secure.
Our
ability
to
do
mobile
device
management
and
ensure
security
on
these
devices
is
10x
higher
than
it
would
be
otherwise
and
make
sure
that,
not
only
in
terms
of
the
emergency,
but
on
a
day-to-day
basis.
We
have
a
much
better
mobile
and
safer
mobile
experience
and
then
and
then.
D
Finally,
I
guess
the
the
last
thing
I
would
say
on
this
is
that
I
I
really
do
feel
that
this
this
we've
gotten
lucky
with
the
timing
on
this,
because
we
had
a
key
number
of
these
deployed
prior
to
the
pandemic.
That
allowed
us
to
shift
and
stay
connected
on
emergency
devices
in
this
pandemic,
in
a
way
that,
especially
in
the
first
days,
was
very,
very
important.
D
What
part
of
it
does
work
is
going
to
be
clogged
with
people
trying
to
get
in
touch
with
each
other
and
so
having
both
a
highly
seismically
strong
network
that
we're
able
to
access
and
also
being
able
to
put
things
like
that
blimp
up
fast
and
be
in
a
non-terrestrial
mode,
is
going
to
make
all
the
difference
in
those
critical
first
hours
and
days
for
our
ability
to
coordinate
a
recovery
to
something
like
an
earthquake.
So
again,
big
thanks
to
the
team,
big
thanks
to
att
and
with
that
I'll
I'll
I'll
yield
the
space.
A
G
Yeah
paul
soto
from
the
horseshoe
I'd
really
like
to
have
the
racial.
I
think
the
I
think
this
committee
would
benefit
from
having
the
racial
equity
office
installed
in
these
conversations,
because
we're
talking
very
cavalier
and
actually
you
councilman
mayhem,
had
absolutely
nothing
to
say.
With
regard
to
the
racial
equity
issue
that
are
going
to
impact
that
population,
you
had
absolutely
nothing
to
say
and
that's
fine.
I
don't
expect
a
man
like
you
to
have
anything
to
say
about
that.
G
However,
councilwoman
foley
did
because
she
understands
the
implications
of
what
these
new
technologies
and
how
that
is
going
to
engineer
the
city
that
my
ancestors
built,
okay
and
how
that's
going
to
affect
us.
Okay,
so
I
am
asking
councilman
cohen,
I'm
asking
councilwoman
foley
to
after
this
meeting
contact
the
office
of
racial
equity
and
have
them
immediately
installed
in
this
particular
committee,
because
we're
talking
about
400,
000
human
beings
coming
to
this
city
that
have
absolutely
no
concern.
They
don't
care,
they
don't
care
what
this
city
has
had
to
endure.
G
We
have
had
to
endure
covid,
we
endured
sasi
puedes.
We
endured
the
the
farmers
and
the
racist
policies
that
created
this
city.
We
still
haven't
grappled
with
redlining
and
now
here
it
is
that
you're
talking
so
cavalierly
and
it
actually
very
irresponsibly
and
reckless
about
what
it
is
that
we
need
to
do
in
our
city
to
to
to
to
create
a
system
that
is
sensitive
to
the
suffering
that
has
gone
in
it.
G
So
right
when
we're
going
to
be
coming
out
of
kovid,
the
latino
community
is
going
to
have
to
contend
with
this
technological
coving,
because
I
would
venture
so
far
as
to
say
that
this
is
just
as
much
of
an
infection
in
terms
of
the
way
that
it's
going
to
affect
the
latino
population
as
kovid.
I
would
go
so
far
as
to
say
that
so
I'm
asking
on
behalf
of
the
latino
community
that
the
racial
equity
office
be
installed
in
this
committee.
Thank
you.
H
Hi
blair
beacon
here,
thank
you
for
the
words
the
last
words
of
kip
harkness.
You
know
if
we
have
a
large
earthquake
and
there
will
be
damage
to
you
know
to
telecommunications,
not
only
you
know,
we
developed
its
first
snap
program
now.
H
H
Natural
disaster,
like
an
earthquake,
another
serious
emergency
event-
you
know
that's
something
that
was
always
been
on.
The
radar
of
the
firstnet
people
as
they
have
been
building
it
out,
will
that
learn
to
include
an
emergency
channel
for
communication
for
everyday
people.
It's
an
important
concept.
I
I
don't
know
where
you
are
with
that,
I'm
sure
it's
somewhere.
H
I
hope
you
can
learn
to
talk
about
that
more
openly.
I
know
that
ham.
Radio
is
is
really
on
the
rise
right
now,
but
that's
still
kind
of
a
specialized
way
to
work,
and
so
good
luck
in
these
efforts.
Thank
you
for
the
first
words.
Thank
you
actually,
first,
for
it
was
mentioned
that
the
ipa
is
is
had
a
contribution
to
this
process.
That
is
incredible
to
hear
that
is
like
so
exactly
you
know
that
kind
of
a
positive
way.
H
H
More
often-
and
you
know
thank
you
to
the
person
who
mentioned
this-
was
initially
from
ideas
from
the
time
of
time
of
9
11.,
I
mean
that's
what
my
open
public
policies
are
about,
how
we
can
be
more
open
and
clear
with
each
other,
and
that's
so
vital,
and
it's
that
way
we
don't
hurt
each
other
and
we
work
towards
our
better
sales
and
better
practices.
F
All
this
new
technology,
you
know
what
you
guys
need
to
do.
You
learn
how
to
you
need
to
learn
how
to
use
the
old
technology
first
filing
9-1-1.
Is
a
disaster
you're
going
to
want
all
this
advanced
technology?
For
what
who,
who
are
you
in
the
pocket?
With
with
these
tech
companies
that
are
creating
all
this
crap
that
doesn't
even
work?
Half
the
time
you
have
an
electrical
grid?
That's
a
disaster!
You
know
it,
you
don't
want
to
face
it.
You
want
to
think
that
you're
going
to
build
windmills
to
to
make
it
work.
F
You
have
an
emergency
medical
system,
an
emergency
response
system.
That's
terrible!
I
mean
san
jose
pd
and
san
jose.
Fire
department
are
terrible.
They
have
the
lowest
response
time.
They
don't
put
out
fires,
they
don't
solve
crimes.
I
mean
they're
great.
If
you
want
to
have
them
hide
behind
a
bush
with
a
radar
gun,
you
know
making
sure
or
making
sure
somebody
doesn't
roll
through
with
stops
and
they're
good
at
that.
F
San
jose
is
also
good
at
code
enforcement,
making
sure
your
flagpole
isn't
too
high
or
that
you
haven't
parked
too
far
from
the
curb,
but
you
want
to
go
to
the
next
generation
of
technology
and
to
help
it
prevent
a
natural
disaster.
I
can't
imagine
what
could
happen
if
a
real
natural
disaster
occurred.
F
And
if
you
think
that
you're
going
to
do
something
with
with
advanced
technologies,
you
need
to
learn
how
to
use
9-1-1
on
a
simple
phone
system.
First,
how
are
you
going
to
be
able
to
technically
use
all
this
stuff?
I
mean,
as
for
natural
disasters,
like
I
said
before,
the
biggest
natural
disasters
are
san
jose
fire
department,
sjpd,
sam
ricardo
and
the
entire
city
council.
F
J
Thank
you.
I
I'm
embarrassed
to
say
that
I
missed
my
window
to
be
to
get
my
certification
under
firstnet.
So
can
someone
come
with
someone
send
me
the
new
access
code?
I
thought
I
had
all
day
yesterday
and
I
didn't
I
had
till
11
30
eastern
standard
time,
so
I'm
really
embarrassed
to
make
that
confession
publicly.
J
Regarding
the
firstnet,
I
think
this
is
really
an
important
step
for
us
to
be
able
to
have
connectivity
in
a
way
that
we
did
not
have
before
just
just
to
give
you
an
idea
of
why
this
is
important
and
it
911
brought
it
to
the
forefront,
but
in
1989
I
lost
my
house
in
the
earthquake
and,
if
it
forever
for
whoever
was
around
there,
you
know
that
when
the
earthquake
occurred,
the
highways
were
crowded
with
people.
We
didn't
have
the
cell
service
that
we
have
today,
but
cell
phones
were
available.
J
My
husband
was
up
in
the
mountains
in
our
mountain
home
and
I
thought
he
had
died
because
I
couldn't
reach
him.
He
had
to
come
down
the
mountains.
The
highways
were
crowded,
the
cell
phone
signals
were
crowded.
I
could
not
get
a
hold
of
him
and
I
was
scared
to
death
that
something
that
had
happened
to
him.
Luckily,
nothing
did,
but
it
took
me
a
long
time
because
of
the
over
use
of
cell
phones.
J
So
if
you
take
our
system
firstnet
away
from
the
personal
system
that
everybody
else
is
using,
it
frees
up
our
first
responders
and
our
emergency
workers
to
really
deal
with
the
emergencies
they
need
to
and
it
allows
our
residents
to
contact
each
other
in
another
way
and
and
our
residents
by
the
way,
include
our
students
who
are
in
schools.
Our
schools
who
are
trying
to
our
parents
were
trying
to
get
a
hold
of
our
kids
during
a
disaster,
and
I
agree
there
is
going
to
be
a
disaster.
J
A
Great
well
I'll,
just
I'll
add
my
thanks
to
city
staff.
I
know
coordinating
a
deployment
of
this
scale
across
so
many
different
functions
is,
is
not
only
imagine
how
challenging
that's
been,
and
so
just
you
know
not
not
at
all
a
simple
task
and
appreciate
the
effort
and
and
glad
to
hear
that
it's
you
know,
maybe
a
silver
lining
of
this
crisis
that
we're
in
is
that
we've
we've
kind
of
moved
to
it
purposefully
and
quickly
and
are
seeing
benefits
already.
So
I'm
really
excited
about
that.
A
Just
a
question
about
the
fiscal
component
of
this,
so
I
think
kip
kind
of
referenced,
the
special
relationship
and
us
being
able
to
move
move
quickly.
I'm
curious,
as
you
look
out
over
the
next
few
years,
are
we
clear
on
on
costs
and
how
we'll
continue
to
pay
for
this
network,
or
is
that
something
council
is
going
to
need
to
weigh
in
on.
D
I
I
think,
we're
mostly
clear
on
it.
You
know,
as
you
mentioned,
with
the
deployment,
this
side
is,
as
you
really
get
to
it,
and
and
and
dig
into
it.
You
find
hidden
things
that
you
that
you
didn't
know
at
the
executive
level
and
and
the
folks
on
the
ground,
help
you
learn.
But
overall
you
know
these
are
we're
either
swapping
out
devices
or
we're.
In
some
cases
we
are
expanding
devices
to
additional
people,
but
they
would
be
costs
that
we
would
have
born
one
way
or
another.
D
So
we're
working
to
build
this
into
the
budget.
Jim
shannon
has
been
invaluable
in
helping
us
figure.
This
out,
we've
we've
tucked
into
pots
here
and
there
and
been
able
to
make
it
work
without
needing
to
tip
over
the
apple
cart
of
the
budget,
but
he's
building
this
in
as
part
of
the
long-term
budget
solution.
We
don't
believe
that
there
will
be
significant
impacts
other
than
the
positive
ones
that
we've
described
in
terms
of
the
budget
situation
is
sort
of
the
bottom
line.
D
The
biggest
some
of
the
biggest
cost
and
complexity
has
been
around
the
the
fleet
and
the
vehicle
pieces
and
making
sure
that
we
have
enough
funding
to
get
those
installed.
You
know
people
who
are
good
mechanics
who
can
install
that
kind
of
stuff
are
actually
pretty
short
supply
and
it
took
us
a
while
to
to
realize
the
complexity
around
that.
D
I
really
want
to
thank
matt
lesch
and
all
the
team
at
public
works
on
fleet
for
helping
us
work
through
some
solutions
there,
so
that
added
some
short-term
one-time
costs,
but
on
an
ongoing
basis.
We've
folded
this
into
the
overall
budget
and
don't
see
any
budgetary
concerns.
There
may
be
some
minor
adjustments,
but
nothing
significant.
A
Great
okay,
that's
that's
really
good
to
hear
and
are
we
getting
any
and
I'll
go
I'll,
come
to
councilman,
cohen
next,
but
just
one
other
quick
slightly
more
tactical
question:
we
get
any
feedback
from
emergency
or
first
responders
on
the
phone
versus
the
radio
and
how
they're
balancing
different
tools
and
is
I'm
assuming
this
is
mostly
additive,
but
it
also
could
have
some
redundancy.
I'm
just
curious.
What
kind
of
initial
feedback
yeah.
D
This
is
this
is
kind
of
what's
cool
about
this
phone,
but
I
won't
let
I'll.
Let
andy
speak
to
that
because
he's
gotten
he
had
a
lot
to
do
with
how
we
thought
about
this
stuff
and
and
introducing
it
so
andy.
I'd
love
you
to
take
that
question.
M
Sure
great
question:
it's
when
we
the
one
slide
that
actually
showed
with
the
radio
system
in
the
phone
system,
they're
complimentary
and
to
have
a
reliable
device
that
you
can
call
in
a
dispatch
and
take
some
of
that
radio
traffic
off
of
the
radio
so
that
they
can
continue
to
dispatch
calls
for
service
and
not
have
some
conversations
going
on
on
the
radio.
So
that
definitely
helps
us
accomplish
that.
M
M
Many
applications
from
third-party
vendors
that
are
tools
both
evidence,
collection,
body,
camera,
viewing
et
cetera.
The
fire
department's
got
some
very
handy
applications
and
they're
looking
into
a
new
platform
for
some
incident
management
as
well.
So
it's
not
just
a
phone,
it's
very
highly
functional
and
really
the
vehicle
pieces
is
oh,
so
important
and
as
kip
mentioned
even
in
the
vehicles,
the
modems
were
outdated
and
needed
to
be
refreshed
anyway.
So
it
was,
they
are
at
the
end
of
life
and
so
are
nbc's
and
the
police
entire
vehicle.
M
D
The
a
couple
of
other
things
and
I'll
give
andy
credit
for
all
of
this,
because
he
educated
me
on
these
things
as
well.
We
also
were
able
to
test
out
different
different
phones
and
have
have
pd
and
fire
select
the
ones
that
fit
for
their
needs
and
including
this
nice
otterbox
case
that
allows
you
to
be
pretty
brutal
with
it.
When
you
need
to
a
couple
of
other
things
that
helped
in
the
transition
is
there's
a
push-to-talk
function.
That
is,
is
if
you're
used
to
using
a
radio.
D
The
obvious
contrast-
I
I
I
it's
easy
to
forget,
but
I
always
folks
like
me,
like
andy
remind
me,
you
know
what
you
can't
do
with
radio
is:
is
the
transmission
of
the
pictures
and
the
images
and
the
video
and
and
that's
become
so
much
more
of
our
situational
awareness
these
days,
and
so
it's
a
great
complement
to
the
to
the
p25
digital
radios,
and
we
we
see
them
working
side
by
side
into
the
future
until
there's
something
that
does
both
in
one,
which
will
probably
be
an
early
adopter
on
that
as
well.
D
But
until
then,
I
think
this
is
a
really
good
compliment
and
I
really
again
want
to
credit
andy
for
making
sure
that
we
got
a
tool
that
worked
for
the
people
who
are
in
the
field
and
he
wouldn't
stop
at
anything.
It
wouldn't
have
approved
this
if
we,
if
we
hadn't,
got
something
that
didn't
work
for
the
both
our
firefighters
and
our
police.
A
That's
great
to
hear-
and
I
think
I
don't
know
if,
thanks
for
that
and
thanks
andy
and
rob,
did
you
want
to
jump
in
on
that
as
well?
I
saw
your
hand
go
up.
C
I'm
sorry,
yes,
council,
member,
just
one
thing
for
follow
up
on
council
member
foley.
Your
staff
did
pick
up
your
phone
today
and
we'll
follow
up
with
you
right
after
this
meeting
to
get
you
on.
I
Yes,
since
I
may
have
been
since
you
brought
up
the
cost,
I
did
notice
in
the
report.
Something
said
that
there
was
the
ongoing
talks
for
the
future
was
a
little
bit
higher
than
originally
anticipated.
So
I
just
wanted
to
ask
a
little
bit
of
a
couple
clarifying
questions.
I
assume
that
there
was
some
built-in
costs
for
device
replacement,
some
cycle
of
device
replacement.
That
needs
to
be
done.
You
know.
I
Usually
these
things
are
three
four
year
replacement
cycle
right,
so
that's
been
built
in
the
expectation
that
every
so
many
years
everyone
would
get
a
new
device
or
how
has
that
been
built?
Is
that
been
assumed
as
part
of
that?
That's
not
part
of
the
escalation
that
you've
mentioned
in
there?
Is
it.
L
Yeah,
our
projections
do
anticipate
a
three
year
cycle
for
refreshing
devices
and-
and
we
do
have
a
really
great
partnership
with
a
t
and
good
pricing
on
that.
So
so
that
is
a
really
good
price
point
for
replacing
phones
and
other
devices.
The
cradle
points
are
going
to
have
a
longer
life.
I
think
we
anticipated
four
to
five
year
life
for
those
devices,
so
those
will
be
refreshed
later
down
the
road.
I
And
I
I
mean
I
think
I
saw
that
or
was
there
somebody
else
that
wanted
to
if
not,
but
I
think
I
saw
that
you
were
saying
that
it
was
more
of
the
usage
that
was
driving
some
of
that
higher
cost.
You
were
seeing
that
people
were
using
the
way
people
were
using
their
devices
was
driving
costs
higher.
Is
that
what
I
read
correctly
in
the
report.
L
Yeah,
so
this
this
gets
to
some
of
the
comments
that
kit
made.
So
push
to
talk,
we
found
was
a
really
valuable
and
necessary
feature
that
we
hadn't
anticipated
the
full
adoption
level
that
that
we
now
have.
It
is
a
great
tool
and
it's
providing
a
lot
of
value.
That
was
one
thing
we
have
a
couple
of
different
pricing
plans
available
to
users
across
the
city,
and
so
some
users
are
are
coming
at
a
higher
price
point
than
what
we
anticipated.
I
And
the
devices
you
know
people
have
when
people
buy
personal
devices,
they
they
either
get
a
certain.
They
get
a
certain
data
plan.
Right
are
these
devices
on
a
certain
level
of
data
plan?
Are
they
on
an
unlimited
usage
data
plan?
How
is
it
set
up
for
for
the
individual
users
who
have
these
devices.
L
Yeah,
the
big
two
are
an
unlimited
data
plan
and
then
we
have
a
pooled
two
gigabyte
plan
and
that
that
pools
the
resources
of,
for
example,
a
whole
department's
user
base,
and
you
know
they
can
exceed
a
two
gigabyte
each
month.
Just
in
aggregate
they
wouldn't,
they
would
need
to
stay
under
a
certain
threshold.
I
L
Not
so
that
gets
to
the
the
policy,
and
there
is
a
distinction
between
the
individual
use
and
the
city
business
use,
and
so
the
policy
does
clarify
that
line.
These
these
devices
should
be
what
you're,
using
for
business
purposes,
use
your
separate
cell
phone
for
any
other
purpose.
It
does
allow
a
little
bit
of
leeway,
which
is
some
of
the
feedback
that
we
got
from
a
citywide
input
was
that
there
needs
to
be
a
little
bit
of
flexibility,
use
this
phone
if
you
absolutely
have
to
for
a
personal
purpose,
but
mostly
it's
business.
D
Yeah
this
is,
this
is
moving,
maybe
a
little
bit
different
direction
than
some
folks
in
tech,
and
some
of
that
is
our
regulatory
environment
and
our
also
our
transparency
environment
right
is
that
these
having
this
is
a
purely
dedicated
work
device,
and
I
actually
don't
even
have
my
personal
device
here,
because
I
don't
like
to
be
distracted
by
it
while
I'm
working
it,
you
know,
allows
us
from
an
operational
standpoint
to
do
a
couple
of
things
that
are
important
one.
D
It
allows
us
to
have
phones
that
are
can
be
associated
with
positions
in
an
emergency
that
we
can
just
say,
hey
take
the
eoc
director
phone
here
you
go
the
other
thing
in
terms
of
disclosure
and
freedom
of
information.
It's
like
this
stuff
is
this.
You
know
this
stuff
is
available
and
I
don't
have
any
concerns
about
there
being
anything
personal
on
here.
D
This
phone
is,
you
know
completely
available
to
anybody
who
does
a
public
records
act,
request
on
this,
that
or
the
other,
and
so
it
makes
it
a
lot
easier
from
that
standpoint
as
well,
and
we
had
a
pretty
tight
policy
around
personal
use
of
devices.
So
I
won't
get
into
it
because
I'll
I'll
side
track
us
a
little
bit,
but
but
essentially
the
difficulty
that
creates
is
that
more
people
might
have
two
devices.
D
A
Great
thanks
yeah
that
would
be
nice
okay,
so
we
have
a
motion
on
the
floor
unless
there's
any
other
comment,
why
don't
we
vote.
L
A
A
Thank
you
so
before
we
go
to
public
comment
or
final
public
comment,
just
want
to
thank
staff
for
the
really
substantive
reports
today.
I
certainly
learned
a
lot
and
appreciate
your
attention
to
detail
and
all
the
great
work
you're
doing
want
to
thank
ken
davies
again
for
his
22
years
of
service,
even
though
I
think
he's
probably
not
on
the
call
and
appreciate
everything
you've
done
for
our
for
our
city.
So
we
will
go
to
open
forum
as
we
wrap
up
here.
G
G
It's
this
one,
no
offense
to
anybody
on
this
council,
the
entire
council's
white
and
I
really
take
offense
to
a
bunch
of
white
dudes
talking
so
cavalierly.
What
mayhem
stated
was
really
prescient
and
I'd
like
it.
If
you
kept
talking
with
your
arrogant
kind
of
sarcasm
mayhem,
please
keep
doing
that.
I
I
hope
that
you
would
keep
doing
that
and
keep
opening
your
mouth
about.
Yeah.
Well,
we're
getting
through
covet,
but
yeah
we're
doing
it
successfully.
I'm
not
really
sure
what
you
mean
by
that
councilman
man.
G
You
could
mean
possibly
that
the
dissemination
of
the
latino
community
is
successful.
Thus
it
makes
the
installation
of
these
400
000
people
that
were
mentioned
earlier
in
this
meeting
possible.
Okay,
that's
what
that's!
What
I'm
talking
about?
You're,
a
representative
of
san
jose-
and
you
are
talking
so
freaking
sarcastically
and
so
arrogantly
about
the
suffering
that
is
going
on
in
this
city,
because
you
don't
care.
G
You
mentioned
that
your
family
is
signed
up
for
something,
that's
cool,
I'm
glad
that
you
have
those
resources,
but
those
resources
were
had
as
a
result
of
manifest
destiny.
Okay,
manifest
destiny
came
here
and
they
were
cutting
off
the
heads
of
human
beings
of
native
americans,
of
which
I
am
one
of
them.
They
were
cutting
off
their
heads,
and
that
is
what
established
california
and
san
jose
as
a
state
for
the
first
two
years.
G
I've
got
the
documentation,
be
happy
to
show
it
to
you,
because
we're
going
to
be
rectifying
and
changing
and
correcting,
because
if
you
think
that
we're
going
to
allow
you
to
sit
comfortably
with
this
immigration
of
400
000
people
coming
to
this
area
that
have
no
connection
to
the
area.
That's
why
you
keep
talking
about
silicon
valley.
You
want
to
erase
the
name
of
san
jose
because
you
don't
want
the
history
that
is
attached
to
it.
G
F
First,
I
want
to
say
good:
riddance
davies,
I'm
glad
you
got
you're
gone
hearing
your
report
about
what
you
want
to
have
happen
in
my
house.
I
mean
that's
great.
Maybe
I
can
go
live
in
your
house
for
a
while,
I
mean
you
seem
to
be
able
to
want
to
control
everything
in
my
house,
including
all
the
people
who
are
listening
to
this
on
the
city
council
and
whatever
it's
disgusting,
what
you
guys
want
the
people
to
do.
Secondly,
you
guys
are
worried
about
the
environment.
F
Are
you
guys
going
to
put
a
picture
of
his
face
on
the
sign
too?
It
wouldn't
surprise
me,
but
all
these
all
you
have
all
these
ideas
on
what
you
think
residents
want,
and
none
none
of
these
things
are
what
residents
want
this
new
technology:
zero
emission,
carbon-free
energy?
Nobody
wants
this.
It's
gonna
cost
a
ton
of
money.
Look
what
happened
in
texas
with
their
electrical
grid.
You
want
that
to
happen
here.
I
bet
you
do
you
wanna
you
wanna,
be
able
to.
F
You
know,
get
your
greedy
hands
on
the
taxation
of
the
of
the
electrical
usage
just
disgusting
when
it
comes
to
emergency
services.
You
know,
like
I
said.
The
only
thing
the
city
is
good
at
is:
is
traffic
enforcement
and
code
and
parking
enforcement?
That's
what
you
guys!
That's
what
you
guys
excel
in
it's
disgusting.
You
guys
should
be
ashamed
yourself.
I'd
like
to
hear
any
of
you
answer
or
comment
on
anything.
F
I've
said
paul
soto
said
you
guys
are
real
quiet
sitting
back
there
exactly
like
he
says,
smug
and
arrogant
and
sarcastic
and
a
bunch
of
phonies.
You
guys
are
a
bunch
of
funny.
You
guys
are
in
the
pocket
of
pg
e
and
the
developers
and
everything
else
you
know
you're
in
the
pocket
of
big
tech.
Why
do
you
want
all
this
technology?
You
got
someone's
getting
paid
somewhere.
I
can't
prove
it,
but
someone's
getting
paid
and
by
the
way,
those
signs
that
you're
going
to
put
up.
H
Hi,
thank
you
as
a
part
of
as
open
public
policy
ideas.
You
know
they
can
really
help
be
a
part
of
like
kind
of
our
positive
role
models
and
our
good
examples
for
our
for
our
community
basically
and
how
we
build
our
practices.
I
hope
I
can
talk
about
them
in
this
public
comment
time
and
how
they
relate
to
smart
technology
into
other
processes
of
our
city,
government
and
the
community.
H
H
Terrible
thing
to
say,
because
full
bore
used
to
be
for
how
they
talk
about
oil,
and
so
that
was
I'm
really
I'm
sorry
for
that,
and
I
said
something
that
the
other
day
about
paul.
You
know
working
on
east
side
issues
after
paul
says
something
that
you
know.
I
used
a
really
bad
term
like
down,
I
said
and
when
it
should
have
been,
I
should
have
said
something
like
we
need
to
address.
H
The
concerns
of
you
know
genuine
concerns
of
each
side,
people
at
this
time
and
it's
through
open
public
policies
that
can
do
that
simply
and
so,
and
I
think
that
can
alleviate
what
paul
has
been
worrying,
that
something
may
be
happening
soon.
It's
just
good
practices.
You
know
this
relates
to
yesterday's
item
and
rules.
It
open
government.
You
know
they
want
to
address
the
side.
Slow
issue
learn
to
develop
open
public
policies,
you're
creating
a
county
board
for
that
process.
H
If
you
like,
the
aclu
and
open
public
policy
ideas,
that
invites
the
sideshow
people
themselves
to
what
can
be
good
practices
and
good
ideas
and-
and
that
makes
the
community
effort
and
to
conclude,
you
know,
with
hvac
systems
the
new
hvac
systems,
I
it's
my
feeling
they
can
have
the
possibility
of
aerosol
vaccine
capability.