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From YouTube: SEP 9, 2019 | Transportation & Environment Committee
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City of San José
Transportation & Environment Committee
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A
We'll
call
the
transportation
and
environment
committee
to
order.
We
have
a
quorum
with
council
members,
perales
and
esparza
along
with
myself,
and
I
think
the
first
thing
we
need
to
do
is
we
have
a
clean
energy
community
advisory
commission
work
plan
that
we
need
to
defer
and
if
we
could
take
that
along
with
the
consent
calendar,
I
would
entertain
a
motion.
B
The
problem-
I'm
tessa
woodman,
see
stockton
avenues.
City
of
san
jose,
the
the
new
name
for
our
community
is
called
the
village
of
the
guard
in
alameda
which
are
destroying,
but
that's
another
story.
Okay.
So
what
I'm
here
to
talk
about?
Is
this
clean
energy
plan
that
you
feel
is
saving
us
and
that
our
mayor
had
to
put
out
immediately
after
the
county
declared
a
climate
emergency
and
and
just
to
make
a
little
set?
B
I
would
like
you
to
take
notes
about
what
I'm
saying:
okay,
that
is
your
job
okay,
so
take
notes,
because
I've
taken
the
effort
to
be
here.
Okay,
because
you
don't
answer
the
phones,
you
don't
call
us
back.
We
know
that.
Okay,
that's
how
you're
doing
it.
We
need
a
grand
jury
to
look
at
the
way
the
city
of
san
jose
is
operating
because
it's
really
corrupt,
okay
and
serving
your
masters,
which
are
corporations
instead
of
the
people.
Okay,
you're,
not
serving
the
people,
dev,
davis,
okay.
B
B
That
was
because
he
wanted
to
cover
up
for
the
ineptitudes
that
the
city
of
san
jose
has
in
terms
of
their
clean
energy
and
one
of
mayor
licardo's
main
points
of
what
he's
doing
for
clean
energy.
Hello.
I'm
here
talking.
Excuse
me,
excuse
me,
you
need
to
get
your
paper
out
about
notes
about
what
I'm
saying.
Okay,
thank
you,
and
so
basically
what
the
mayor
le
cardo
said
about
his
clean
energy.
B
The
work
that
he's
doing
is
to
make
sure
that
pg
e
cannot
shut
down
our
our
energy
when
there's
a
fire,
and
he
didn't
want
pg
e
to
be
able
to
do
that,
and
he
was
going
to
make
a
a
coalition
of
let's
say,
25
members
that
are
going
to
decide
when
we're
going
to
shut
down
the
energy,
because
he
did
not
realize
that
when
he
put
us
on
the
clean
energy
program,
that
has
the
18th
floor
and
all
the
people
working
millions
of
jobs
and
millions
of
this
corporations
was
that
the
basically
that
it
was
not
off
the
grid.
B
B
F
G
Report,
thank
you,
chair,
davis
and
and
transportation
environment
committee
members.
My
name
is
matt
kano,
director
of
public
works
and
with
me
is
walter
lynn,
deputy
director
fleet
manager,
dave
mesa
and
fleet
analyst
lori
shibley,
we're
here
today
to
present
to
you
an
annual
report
on
our
fleet
program.
It's
a
very
exciting
program
that
we
get
to
be
part
of
as
someone
coming
from
a
department
for
over
a
decade
that
relied
on
this
division
for
daily
services.
G
When
I
realized
how
important
we
are
to
power
safety
shut
off
and
how
involved
we
are
in
providing
generation
and
gasoline
to
generators
and
making
sure
our
city
can
continue
to
survive
in
the
event
of
a
power
shutoff
or
a
major
earthquake
or
other
event,
and
so
with
that
I'll
turn
it
over
to
walter
to
provide
part
of
the
presentation.
D
D
I'd
like
to
share
with
you
just
a
few
details
about
the
program
itself
within
our
division.
We
have
55
staff
members
that
manage
the
fleet
operations
within
eight
different
city
sites
throughout
the
city,
boundaries
just
a
few
examples
of
our
sites
going
in
clockwise
motions
starting
at
the
top.
That
is
the
regional
wastewater
facility,
that
is
a
ficon
vehicle
that
helps
to
clear
and
aerate
sludge
and
other
materials
within
the
regional
wastewater
facility.
D
D
We
then
show
police
vehicles
within
our
build
up
shop
at
the
police
substation
towards
the
bottom
center.
We
have
a
pavement
patch
truck
shown
there
at
the
south
corporation
yard,
additional
police
vehicles
at
our
municipal
police
garage
and
then
rounding
out
the
photos.
We
have
a
rubber
eradicator
at
the
airport.
D
I'd
like
to
share
with
you
some
descriptions
of
the
categories
and
quantities
of
the
vehicles
that
our
fleet
management
division
procures
operates
and
maintains.
We
now
have
approximately
2
800
vehicles
and
pieces
of
equipment
within
our
inventory.
Those
include
1530
light
duty
vehicles
which
include
passenger
vehicles,
transport
vehicles,
police,
police
vehicles.
D
D
D
D
H
Last
year,
the
fleet
management
division
performed
19
000
work,
orders,
those
being
work,
orders
that
included
preventive
maintenance,
repairs
and
modifications
to
different
fleet
assets.
We
have
a
mobile
service
program
that
provides
24-hour
mobile
service
to
assist
the
fire
department
on
scene
for
major
incidents
that
requires
fueling
or
repairs
to
different
fire
apparatus.
H
H
We
currently
have
six
fuel
sites
geographically
positioned
throughout
the
city,
with
a
seventh
one,
possibly
in
the
works
within
the
next
year
or
two.
Our
fuel
use
continues
to
decrease.
Year
after
year,
we
were
down
to
1.5
million
gallons.
Last
year.
We
can
attribute
this
to
more
fuel,
efficient
vehicles
and
electric
vehicles,
and
last
year
our
acquisition
and
disposition
build
up
team,
managed,
198
new
vehicles
and
176
retired
vehicles.
H
I'm
going
to
highlight
a
few
major
accomplishments
from
2018-19
that
being
we've,
we
completed
the
mechanics
reclassification
within
the
division.
We
also
added
10
all-electric
pro
terra
buses
to
the
city's
airport
shuttle
at
mineta
airport.
H
H
We
are
currently
utilizing
a
life
cycle,
cost
analysis
tool
to
make
decisions
on
whether
we
should
replace
or
remove
the
or
vehicles
from
service
we're
using
data
driven
fleet
analytics
through
our
asset
management
system.
That
gives
us
real
time
data
for
making
the
most
efficient
decisions
within
the
city's
fleet
and
we're
continuing
to
increase
electrification
of
our
fleet.
H
H
A
few
of
the
initiatives
that
we
we,
the
fleet
management
division
are
working
on
would
be
the
green
fleet
policy,
our
fleet
replacement
policy
and
emergency
management,
which
I'll
go
over
in
the
next
few
slides.
H
So
fleet
is
currently
collaborating
with
dot
to
expand
the
electric
vehicle
charging
infrastructure.
We've
identified
five
sites
throughout
the
city
to
to
add
more
charging
ports
that
will
be
available
for
city
fleet,
as
well
as
for
the
citizens
of
of
the
city
of
san
jose,
we're
continuing
to
expand
our
electric
vehicle
and
fleet,
where
applicable,
we're
adding
suvs
and
medium
duty
vehicles
to
that.
H
J
J
Our
largest
category
is
our
light
duty
vehicles
and
we
currently
have
738
of
those
352
of
those
are
beyond
the
10
years
in
service.
Our
average
replacement
age
is
17.3
years.
The
replacement
guideline
for
those
light
duty
vehicles
is
10
years
and
100
000
miles,
even
though
our
stuffing
levels
have
decreased,
and
it
currently
is
an
issue
for
us.
Our
vehicle
and
and
equipment
has
increased.
H
So
a
few
topics
about
emergency
management-
I'm
going
to
be
sharing
this
slide
with
walter.
The
the
fleet
management
division
plays
a
crucial
role
in
the
eoc.
Should
there
be
an
event
that
causes
the
eoc
to
be
activated,
we
we
managed
or
helped
manage
the
logistics
section.
We
also
again,
like
I
stated
earlier.
We
provide
24
7
mobile
fueling
services
and
backup
power
generation
for
critical
city
facilities,
and
currently
we
are
working
on
piloting
a
program
to
remotely
monitor
fuel
level
of
those
generators
throughout
the
city.
D
D
We
have
32
that
do
not
currently
have
backup
generation
or
adequate
backup
generation.
Those
facilities
we've
been
focusing
on
in
terms
of
getting
the
infrastructure
in
place,
identifying
the
needs,
developing
cost
estimates
and
really
trying
to
ensure
that,
for
all
of
those
facilities
from
a
fleet
perspective,
we
do
have
that
type
of
operation
in
place.
We
could
refuel
those
generators
as
they
get
depleted,
ensuring
those
consistent
operations
throughout
those
sites-
mobile
fueling
again,
we
we
do
have
a
deficiency
within
our
fleet,
even
though
we
do
have
mobile
fueling
trucks.
D
We
only
have
four
of
them,
two
of
which
are
high
capacity.
Two
of
them
only
can
hold
100
gallons.
As
such
we've
identified
more
of
a
needs
for
procurement
of
those
vehicles
having
those
available
so
in
case
these
events
happen
we'll
be
as
best
prepared
to
provide
those
services
for
those
critical
facilities.
As
dave
mentioned,
we're
also
looking
at
generator
remote
monitoring
that'll.
Allow
us
to
look
at
a
dashboard
where
the
different
levels
of
fuel
within
those
generators
we
can
monitor
remotely
and
get
those
refilled
as
quickly
as
possible.
D
H
So
the
last
slide
to
wrap
up
some
just
real,
quick,
the
innovation
and
motivation
for
moving
forward
our
staffing,
we're
looking
at
skill
development.
We've
identified
a
need
for
some
of
our
staff
and
have
more
training
such
as
generator
training
that
will
be
useful
in
event
of
emergency.
We're
also
trying
to
align
our
staffing
resources,
we've
continued
to
add
vehicles
to
the
fleet,
but
we
haven't
had
any
staffing
in
the
last
few
years,
so
we're
we're
trying
to
add
and
align
our
resources
to
meet
the
needs
of
our
customers.
A
B
Okay,
so
pay
attention
take
notes.
We
are
in
a
climate
emergency.
You
need
to
declare
a
climate
emergency
and,
if
not,
there'll,
be
a
lot
of
ramifications
because
we
are
going
down
as
a
species
we
are
dealing
with
mass
extinction.
We
can
potentially
have
that
we
were
just.
I
was
just
listening
with
my
husband
in
regards
to
that.
Not
sea
level
rise
is
not
the
issue.
It's
first
of
all.
It's
mass
migration!
That's
what's
happening
right!
Now,
that's
what's
going
to
be
happening!
B
That's
going
to
destabilize
san
jose
is
mass
migration
and
that's
what's
happening.
There
are
60
000
people
who
are
dire
need
of
food
in
the
bahamas.
70
000
are
the
homeless
are
needing
homes.
So
this
is
what's
going
to
be
happening,
they're
going
to
be
going
to
florida,
then
all
the
floridians
are
going
to
be
coming
to
san
jose
okay.
So
we
have
a
mass
migration
issue
that
we're
facing
and
we
need
to
make
massive
changes,
they're
saying,
18
months.
B
Okay,
that's
did
you
get
the
email
18
months
to
make
radical
changes
in
the
way
we're
doing
things
we
need
to
create
a
world-class
bicycle
infrastructure,
a
separated,
bicycle
infrastructure,
the
amount
of
fuel
that
you're
using
in
your
fleet
has
got
to
be
reduced
by
50
percent.
Okay,
that's
what
the
science
is
saying.
It's
called
the
intergovernmental
panel
on
climate
change.
Okay,
that
was
2018
that
they
told
us.
We
have
50,
no
you're,
not
listening,
you're
bored.
I
know
you
think
it's
my
personal
problem.
Both
raul
and
deb
davis
thinks
it's
my
personal
problem.
B
F
Thank
you
very
much,
and
only
because
you,
you
called
me
out
tessa,
I
don't
believe
it's
your
personal
problem.
I
do
think
it's
all
of
our
problems.
It's
just
not
as
easy
to
fix.
As
you
might
say,
it
is
so,
but
I
want
to
thank
our
staff
for
the
report
on
our
fleet.
I
can
tell
you
it
was
surprising
to
see
that
carousels
are
concluded
in
the
fleet.
I
don't
know
why.
F
I
missed
that
the
last
several
years-
oh,
I
wasn't
on
tna,
so
that
helps
but
yeah
quite
a
wide
range
of
fleet
that
we
are
managing
and
I
would
have
never
assumed
a
carousel
was
was
in
that
mix.
F
You
know,
oddly
enough,
just
happened
to
ride
that
carousel
this
past
weekend
at
the
fundraiser
at
happy
hollow.
So
it's
working
well
and
I
did
have-
I
guess
a
question
here
in
regards
to.
I
know
that
our
largest
fleet
that
we
have
is
within
the
police
department,
and
I
was
curious
if
somebody
could
expand
a
little
bit
on
the
opportunity
with
trying
to
get
some
some
alternative.
F
J
H
In
hybrid
vehicles,
currently
this
model
year
model
year,
2020
ford
has
actually
come
out
with
a
hybrid
pursuit,
rated
police
utility
interceptor.
F
Yeah,
no,
that
that's
positive
to
hear
reading
that
in
here
I
thought,
because
that
was
going
to
be
my
question
sort
of
just
ahead
of
time,
knowing
that
that's
our
largest
fleet
and
and
typically
that's
the
one
that
you
know
you
might
have
get
gotten
the
most
pushback
right,
because
you
have
somebody
that
wants
the
you
know
the
most
powerful
vehicles
out
there,
although
I
have
sat
in
a
tesla
and
those
are
very
fast.
F
So
so
I
imagine
it's
very
capable
of
you
know,
creating
a
hybrid
or
even
an
all-electric
vehicle
that,
where
we
could
be,
you
know,
feel
it's
adequate
for
our
police
department.
F
I
wanted
to
see
we
also
denoted
the
largest
number
of
crashes,
which
makes
sense
because
it's
the
largest
fleet
is
within
the
police
department,
but
I
think
it
was
to
the
tune
of
over
half
a
million,
so
six
hundred
thousand
dollars.
What
does
that
actually
look
like
the
outsourcing
of
charges
is
what
it
says.
What
is
that?
What
is
the
outsourcing
of
charges?
You
can
describe
that?
J
The
outsourcing
of
charges
would
be
our
contractual
budget,
which
is
our
non-personal
budget,
and
that
would
go
because
we
do
not
do
bodywork
in-house.
So
we
have
to
send
that
bodywork
out
or
if
you
know
whether
it's
an
apparatus,
a
police
car.
If
we're
going
to
fix
the
vehicle,
then
we
it
comes
out
of
our
budget
and
then
it
gets
charged
to
the
department.
F
Okay,
and
would
it
make
sense,
has
anybody
kind
of
analyzed
that
or
maybe
it's
for
the
auditor's
office
to
kind
of
determine
what
it
makes
sense
to
have
some
in-house?
You
know
auto
body
specialist.
It
looks
like
in
here
234
vehicle
crashes.
I
don't
know
how
many
of
those
actually
were
fixed
and
brought
back
out,
but
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
worth
tells
me
a
lot.
H
F
F
Okay,
yeah,
they
just
you
know,
certainly
a
lot
and
I
I
can
guarantee
you
it's
going
to
continue
to
happen
right.
So
I
think
that
that's
just
something
that
we
saw
in
the
police
department
year
after
year,
especially
as
we
hire
new
officers,
it's
the
trend
right
for
newer
officers.
You
know
not
not
shying
away,
I
wrecked
two
within
my
first
year,
one
one
was
no
longer
in
service,
the
other
was
fixed.
F
So
so
it
happens
to
you
know
it
happens
a
lot
actually,
and
so
I
just
I
imagine
this
number
staying
high
and
so,
but
I
do
recognize
there
could
be
some
other
costs
in
regards
to
the
facilities
themselves.
It
may
be
something
that
I
you
know.
I
I
ponder
with
our
auditor
or
or
talk
to
our
director
and
kind
of
see.
You
know
in
a
different
conversation.
Matt
go.
G
Absolutely
I
just
want
to
add,
I
think,
as
you're
aware,
the
this
is
on
the
auditor's
work
plan
and
we
have
been
talked
to
the
auditor
about
you
know:
what
scope
are
they
going
to
be
able
to
look
at
there's
a
lot
of
process
improvements?
We
want
them
to
look
at
as
well.
Hopefully-
and
this
is
one
thing
we
can
bring
up
in
our
next
conversation
with
them-
leading
up
to
the
audit.
F
F
H
So
there
is
the
2030
timeline
that
has
been
published
fleet
itself.
We
are
currently
giving
the
message
that
if
your
vehicle
is
retired,
you
will
be
getting
an
electric
vehicle
unless
there
is
justification
that
you
can't
have
one
if
it
doesn't
fit
your
platform
for
whatever
your
job
duties
are.
G
F
G
So
you'll
probably
get
more
information
on
that
next
month
as
well
and
they're
collaborating
with
public
works
fleet
on
that
as
well
and-
and
I
just
want
to
add
and
councilman
prowess,
I
know
you're
looking
at
it-
the
chart
on
page
22
at
the
top,
the
pie
chart
the
1261
of
vehicles
that
are
still
on
unleaded.
As
you
pointed
out,
the
vast
majority
of
those
are
police
cars.
So,
as.
H
G
As
that
technology
for
police
catches,
up
which
it
looks
like
it's
getting
there,
I
think
david
saying
we're
about
each
police
car
has
about
a
six
years
of
life,
and
so
once
that
technology
catches
up
we're
about
six
years
away
from
really
dramatically
reducing
the
unleaded
part
of
this
pie
with
the
police
vehicles.
F
Okay,
great
yeah,
I
appreciate
seeing
the
the
the
progress
here
and
and
seeing
how
what
it
feels
like
we're
moving
in
the
in
the
right
direction.
I
and
I
absolutely
without
a
doubt,
agree
that
this
the
police
vehicles
is
kind
of
the
biggest
chunk
of
where
we
can
actually
see
a
difference,
and
so
I
look
forward
to
seeing
how
these
vehicles
perform
and
considering
a
couple
other
big
departments
have
adopted
them.
I'm
hopeful
that
we
will
too
thanks.
F
A
Thank
you.
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
about
the
mobile
fueling.
What
how
many
new
vehicles
do
we
need
and
what's
the
cost
estimate
on
the
those
new
vehicles,
so
you
said
we
have
four.
Currently
two
only
two
are
high
capacity.
I
I
think
you
left
unsaid,
that
we
need
more
high
capacity
vehicles.
How
many
more
are
we
thinking
about
getting.
D
Yes,
a
good
question,
chair
davis,
so
during
the
council
study
session
that
we
had
on
emergency
management
about
a
week
and
a
half
ago,
we
had
shared
that
within
our
current
fleet,
we
do
have
the
four
vehicles
two
high
capacity,
which
can
control
about
1800
gallons
of
fuel.
The
two
smaller
ones
can
hold
about
100
gallons
within
our
evaluation
and
looking
at
the
number
of
sites
and
the
geographic
coverage
within
the
city.
We
feel
that
two
additional
high
capacity,
fueling
trucks
of
1800
gallons
each
would
be
adequate.
K
D
D
A
H
So
so
currently
we
use
them
for
remote
fueling,
as
well
as
mobile
servicing
throughout
the
city,
different
pieces
of
equipment
or
generators.
So
we
do
all
the
preventive
maintenance
on
the
generators
and
at
the
pump
station
generators
throughout
the
city.
Currently,
so
we
use
those
for
fueling
and
for
maintenance.
A
And:
what's
the
how
how
long
do
we
have
each
of
these
vehicles.
A
Sure
they're
used
on
a
less
frequent
basis
right
yeah.
I
think
that
makes
perfect
sense,
that's
helpful
and
then
the
other
question
I
had
was
about
the
the
remote
monitoring
of
generators.
I
can't
remember
if
we
talked
about
this
at
the
emergency
preparedness
meeting.
H
So
the
ca,
the
cost-
is
roughly
400
dollars
per
generator
for
the
initial
hardware,
for
the
telematics
to
be
installed
and
there's
an
ongoing
monthly
charge
of
roughly
30
a
month
for
the
the
network
to
be
able
to
monitor
them
and
timeline
to
install
them
would
probably
be
I'd
have
to
double
back
with
our
team.
But
I
would
say,
within
the
next
six
months
to
a
year
to
install
them
all.
A
Okay,
thank
you
all
right.
Thank
you.
Those
are
all
my
questions.
We
have
a
motion
on
the
floor.
All
in
favor.
A
A
L
Good
afternoon
I'm
jeff
provenzano
deputy
director
for
esd
municipal
water
system.
This
item
before
you
today
is
our
new
state
requirements
on
water
service
disconnection.
This
past
january
2019
the
state
passed
senate
bill
998.
This
is
a
statewide
requirement
directing
all
water
utilities
to
modify
their
existing
requirements
related
to
water
disconnection.
L
There
are
four
main
categories
included
in
these
modifications.
The
first
one
is
to
develop
a
written
and
posted
disconnection
policy
to
translate
that
policy
into
multiple
languages
to
establish
this
bill
sets
an
exemption
process
for
low-income
households
and
requires
that
the
water
utilities
report
annually
the
number
of
disk
connections
made.
L
This
is
a
these
modifications
are
slightly
different
than
the
way
we're
doing
things
now
right
now.
Our
disconnection
process
is
generally
in
four
separate
areas.
Different
pieces,
one
part,
is
in
the
municipal
code.
Another
part
is
in
muni
waters,
rules
and
regulations.
Resolution.
A
third
part
is
based
upon
the
programming
parameters
of
our
billing
system
and
the
fourth
part
is
in
the
procedures
that
we
use
for
customer
support,
such
as
with
the
call
center.
So
right
now
we
don't
have
a
unified,
cohesive
document
as
pretty
much
it's
spread
around
in
multiple
locations.
L
In
addition,
because
of
that,
it's
usually
in
english,
what
is
written
and
then
so.
This
would
be
an
improvement
in
going
forward
with
this
and
then
the
annual
reporting
requirements
right
now,
the
water
utility
annually
submits
this
already
to
the
state
water
resource
control
board.
So
this
number
is
tracked
and
has
been
for
several
years
and
reported
the
difference
here
is.
L
The
next
steps
to
comply
with
sb998,
as
I
mentioned,
is
to
take
out
documents,
take
out
language
from
the
municipal
code
and
place
it
in
an
administrative
policy
on
water
disconnection
to
amend
the
muny
water
rules
and
regs
resolution
and
put
that
language
also
in
the
admin
policy,
and
then
the
final
piece
would
be
to
update
our
cust
our
customer
billing
system.
These
are
some
minor
upgrades
that
would
be
needed
to
the
system
in
order
to
comply
with
this
staff
are
available
for
questions.
A
A
B
Tesla
woodman
c
stockton
avenue.
I
was
looking
at
your
overall
objective,
which
I
haven't
seen
before,
but
I
like
it,
which
was
sb
998,
increase
transparency,
foster
awareness
and
improve
customer
support
services.
I
really
do
like
that,
and
I
think
we
are
totally
failing
on
that.
So
I
don't
have
much
hope
that
the
city
even
to
deal
with
water
just
disconnecting,
because,
as
a
customer
of
the
city,
I
am
I'm
a
resident.
I
am
a
customer
okay.
B
We
have
been
so
mistreated
as
customers
that
I'm
bringing
that
to
your
attention
of
the
way
the
system
works
in
san
jose.
Is
that
we,
I
call
my
city,
council,
member,
deb
davis,
no
calls
back
no
calls
back;
okay,
that's
what
happens.
Okay
and
then
many
items.
This
has
happened
about
that.
You
know
the
issue
of
our
her
selling,
our
our
our
build,
our
our
building
in
our
neighborhood.
B
B
This
is
important
and
and
then
went
ahead
and
sold
it
to
the
corporations
to
promote
sports,
faster,
faster
awareness
and
improved
customer
service.
We
need
a
system
like
san
francisco
and
new
york
that
we
have
a
on
a
a
3-1-1.
You
call
a
number
you
get
a
code
case
and
then
they
respond.
Everybody
must
respond
to
the
code
case
and
that's
what
we
need
in
the
city
of
san
jose.
So
I
can't
have
my
particular
city
council.
Member
doesn't
like
me
not
respond
back.
B
A
M
Thank
you.
I
wanted
to
just
verify
reading
in
the
memo
about
the
disconnection
exemption
process
and
the
process
for
low-income
households,
can
you
talk
about
how
the
new
rules
and
regulations
will
be
revised
to
remove
the
miscellaneous
billing
and
disconnected
related
texts?
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
you're
adding
clarity
to
the
populations
that
need
clarity
on
the
disconnection
policy.
L
Absolutely
so
what
is
being
removed
from
the
municipal
code
and
the
resolutions
will
be
added
into
the
admin
policy,
so
nothing
will
be
deleted
per
se,
but
there
is
an
a
part
of
sb998.
Is
a
new
statewide
process
that
every
water
retailer
has
to
follow
on
exemptions
for
a
low
income
process.
So
that's
something
new
that
we
don't
have
in
there
yet.
M
And
what
is
the
outreach
plan
regarding
this
information?
The
updated
process.
L
There
isn't
we
haven't
really
developed
yet
an
outreach
pass
process,
yet
there,
when
we
post
it
on
our
website,
it
has
to
be
available
on
our
website
has
to
be
developed
in
or
done
in
five
different
languages,
but
then
actually
outreach
to
our
customers.
We
haven't
yet
gotten
to
that
part,
we're
still
in
the
the
development
phase
of
that
policy.
N
And
idad
we'll
coordinate
with
housing
and
community
energy
to
ensure
that
we're
hitting
all
the
low-income
households
that
we
know
of
in
our
municipal
water
service
area,
so
we'll
look
to
existing
lists
to
blend
those
in
in
terms
of
outreach
and
then
and
then
do
additional
public
outreach,
whether
those
are
newspaper
ads
ads
in
libraries,
etc.
Okay,.
A
N
N
Good
afternoon
kerry,
rominow
director
environmental
services
before
we
dive
into
the
details
of
our
proposed
building
reach
code.
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
a
little
reminder
about
why
we're
here,
but
also
just
remind
everyone
that
this
is
one
of
many
actions
that
we'll
take
in
regards
to
climate,
smart,
san
jose
and
our
commitment
to
meeting
the
paris
accords.
We
have,
as
you
know,
on
our
work
plan,
several
more
efforts
underway,
and
you
know
we're
particularly
appreciative
to
bloomberg
philanthropy
for
providing
us
with
the
american
cities.
N
N
We
really
feel
like
we've
hit
a
nice,
a
nice
place
that
meets
what
everyone
needs
in
order
to
hit
that
january
1
deadline.
So,
in
addition
to
our
appreciation
to
bloomberg
also,
I
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
new
buildings
institute
for
their
expertise
again
provided
and
funded
by
bloomberg
and
without
their
support,
and
I
don't
think
we
could
have
gotten
this
done
in
such
short
order
with
as
much
community
engagement.
N
So
a
reminder
that
we're
doing
this
as
we
continue
to
move
forward
in
our
climate
reduction
in
our
greenhouse
gas
emission
reduction
efforts
and,
as
you
see
almost
every
day,
things
are
getting
worse
and
as
this
chart
displays,
global
temperatures
are
warming
at
an
increased
unprecedented
rate.
This
chart
displays
our
local
temperatures.
The
climate
challenges
we're
facing
directly
affect
the
quality
of
life
for
all
residents
in
san
jose
june
of
this
year
was
the
hottest
recorded
june
on
record
and
july
of
this
year
was
the
hottest
month
ever
recorded.
N
Ninety
percent
of
gdp
and
eighty
six
percent
of
u.s
jobs
are
generated
in
three
percent
of
the
continental
united
states.
Mostly
in
our
cities,
two-thirds
of
the
world's
energy
is
consumed
by
cities
and
70
of
global
greenhouse
gas
emissions
are
produced
in
these
cities.
So
as
the
10th
largest
city
in
the
united
states,
san
jose
has
a
very
important
role
to
play
in
the
fight
against
climate
change
and
with
that
I'll
turn
it
over
to
ken
to
share
our
proposal
with
you.
O
O
O
With
this
reach
code,
an
estimated
15
million
metric
tons
of
co2
could
be
reduced
through
2050
by
electrifying
residential
buildings
alone.
The
proposed
code
goes
beyond
that
just
residential
buildings,
however,
so
we'll
do
more
than
that.
I
just
want
to
emphasize
again
that
what's
proposed
is
is
designed
to
reduce
ghg
emissions
through
either
of
the
two
compliance
paths
we'll
be
discussing.
O
We
can
see
our
projected
build
out
per
year
over
the
next
five
years,
looks
like
what
you
see
on
the
slide
there
and
that
could
represent
300
000
metric
tons
of
co2
over
the
building
lifetime.
If
we
do
not
electrify
and
now
I'll
pass
it
to
james,
who
will
discuss
the
difference
between
base
code
and
reach
code.
P
Thanks
ken
building
energy
efficiency,
standard
or
energy-based
code
is
updated
by
the
california
energy
commission
every
three
years
and
get
more
stringent
in
each
code
cycle,
since
the
state
has
set
goals
to
reduce
greenhouse
gas
emissions
and
for
buildings
to
generate
renewable,
clean
energy.
We'll
talk
about
the
cost
later,
but
it's
important
to
remember
that
many
of
the
cost
impacts
are
embedded
in
the
base
code,
especially
for
single
family
homes.
For
this
particular
recommendation,
we
are
amending
two
california
codes,
energy
efficiency
and
green
building.
P
P
O
Thanks
james
on
this
slide
we're
providing
an
illustration
of
the
ghg
reducing
effect
of
the
proposed
code.
Circa
2021
2021,
because
that's
when
san
jose
clean
energy's
electricity
blend
is
scheduled
to
be
carbon
free.
If
you
focus
on
the
total
columns
on
the
far
right,
we
anticipate
the
pro.
The
proposed
reach
code
could
get
emissions
down
to
at
least
the
1
500
metric
ton,
cot
co2e
level,
depending
on
uptake,
but
we
think
it
could
go
even
lower
than
that,
because
we're
already
seeing
a
bias
towards
all-electric
construction
as
a
cost-effective
solution.
O
O
Continuing
with
the
financial
benefits,
in
addition
to
the
lower
construction
cost,
let
me
just
go
over
a
few
terms:
real
quick,
ev,
ready
or
electric
field
vehicle
ready
means
a
powered
circuit
from
the
panel
to
the
parking
stall
up
to
and
including
the
socket
ev
capable
means
space
in
the
breaker
panel
to
accommodate
future
ev
ready
spots
plus
an
empty
conduit
between
the
panel
and
the
parking
space
that
would
just
need
the
wiring
plug
and
a
breaker
to
be
installed
later.
So
that's
the
lower
of
the
two
options
shown
there.
O
Not
only
does
it
make
more
sense
to
install
at
the
time
of
construction,
since
retrofitting
can
involve
retrenching
parking
lots
or
going
back
into
walls,
but
having
ev
charging
available
or
shortly
available
means
we're
helping
our
low-income
disadvantaged
residents
towards
the
the
transition
to
electric
vehicles
which
have
lower
operational
costs.
So
there
is
an
equity
element
to
that
as
well.
O
Put
simply
electrification
or
more
accurately,
the
removal
of
natural
gas
makes
us
safer
and
improves
indoor
and
outdoor
air
quality
underground
gas
infrastructure
continues
to
age
and
has
a
growing
liability
that
is
reflected
in
rising
gas
rates.
No
good
gas
in
the
home
means
no
harmful
emissions.
Coming
off
of
gas
ranges
which
have
been
shown
to
episodically
exceed
outdoor
air
quality
standards
inside
the
home.
O
O
In
terms
of
our
stakeholder
engagement,
we've
published
a
city
reach
code
web
page
to
keep
our
stakeholders
updated.
Have
emails
go
out
to
that
group
regularly
over
65
stakeholders
and
200
neighborhood
associations
were
included
in
our
outreach
efforts.
We
had
four
stakeholder
engagement
workshops
from
may
through
july
for
additional
public
presentations,
and
it
says
several,
but
actually
very
many
individual
meetings
up
into
including
last
week
as
requested.
O
What
we
heard
from
those
groups
were
requests
to
do
more
in
terms
of
electrification,
readiness,
battery
storage,
requiring
all
electric
and
no
gas
at
all,
more
ev
ready
spaces
incentives
for
electric
vehicle
charging
infrastructure,
and
we
also
heard
concerns
about
the
ability
of
the
grid
infrastructure
to
handle
electrification
and
that
using
the
highest
energy
design
rating
or
compliance
margins
would
make
some
mixed
fuel
settings
cost
prohibit
prohibitive.
O
Also,
the
just
concerns
about
the
cost
of
all
electric
building
and
ev
charging
infrastructure.
P
Thanks
ken
the
chart
shows
the
two
code
compliant
path
that
builders
can
take
with
our
proposed
rich
code.
Please
note
that
they
are
designed
to
get
greenhouse
gas
reduction
either
way
just
to
clarify
on
the
chart.
The
draft
and
proposed
requirement
for
all
electric
is
same.
However,
responding
to
stakeholders
input.
The
proposed
mixed
fuel
for
energy
efficiency
is
slightly
less
than
the
draft
numbers.
P
The
code
definition
for
high-rise
residential
is
defined
as
four
stories
or
more
low-rise
as
three
stories
or
less
the
incentive
for
all
electric
is
that
there
are
no
added
requirements
beyond
2019
energy
efficiency.
Standard
solar
readiness
required
for
all
buildings
were
not
fully
covered
by
the
state,
which
are
high-rise,
multi-family,
hotel,
motel
and
non-residential
occupancy
types.
The
same
eva
infrastructure
is
required
for
both
pathways,
that
is,
for
single
family
requires
one
ev
ready.
P
Multifamily
requires
10
percent
ev
with
supply
equipment
and
50,
even
capable
all
non-residential
requires
10
ev
with
supply
equipment
and
40,
eb
capable
all
calculations
must
be
based
on
the
total
number
of
parking
spaces.
We'll
talk
more
about
ev
definition
later
in
the
presentation
for
mixed
fuel
setting
where
the
builder
has
elected
to
keep
natural
gas
in
the
building.
The
builder
must
include
added
energy
efficiency
to
achieve
emissions
reductions
that
would
have
come
through
the
removal
of
natural
gas,
basically
for
office
and
retail
buildings
require
10
higher
than
base
code.
P
High-Rise,
residential
hotel,
motel
and
other
non-residential
require
five
percent
higher
than
base
code
for
low-rise
and
single-family
require
their
energy
design
rating
to
be
less
than
or
equal
to
10..
Also,
the
mixed
fuel
building
must
make
everything
in
the
unit
fueled
by
gas
electric
ready,
meaning
they
must
have
electric
infrastructure
in
place
for
a
future
retrofit
from
gas
to
electric
to
occur.
Ken.
O
Thanks
james,
so
from
a
cost
perspective,
we
have
a
couple.
A
couple
of
different
looks
for
you
here
how
the
if
we
consider
that
all
the
buildings
must
meet
the
state's
new
2019
base
code,
then
at
that
point
the
all
electric
building
under
our
proposal
is
done.
O
They
would
not
have
to
invest
in
any
above
code
improvements
or
efficiencies
in
the
meeting,
but
in
meeting
the
added
efficiency
requirements
again
to
achieve
ghg
reductions
through
this
pathway,
the
mixed
fuel
building
will
need
to
be
even
more
efficient,
as
james
mentioned
in
other,
in
other
words
above
code,
and
will
therefore
have
a
higher
first
cost
of
construction.
O
So
all
electric
provides
a
zero
cost
path.
Incentive
that
way.
The
life
cycle
calculation
is
not
quite
simple
arithmetic.
If
you're
trying
to
go
across
those
roads
there,
it
does
include
first
cost
of
construction,
including
financing
costs,
annual
costs
and
maintenance
costs
all
with
a
net
present
value
calculation
applied
to
those
components.
O
This
one
is
a
little
tricky,
so
bear
with
me.
It
provides
a
contrast
between
an
all-electric
building
versus
a
mixed
fuel,
building,
both
built
to
base
code
and
based
on
building
prototypes.
In
the
state's
cost
effectiveness
study
in
the
first
column,
you'll
see
a
lower
first
cost
of
construction
for
electric
versus
mixed
fuel,
intuitively.
That
makes
sense
because
we're
not
running
gas
service
to
the
house,
so
no
gas
main
no
gas
meter
and
no
piping
after
the
meter.
O
Here's
a
little
more
information
about
that
everything
we're
reading
is
showing
a
much
larger,
much
larger
gas
price
escalations
coming
compared
to
electric
so
that
over
time,
the
relatively
higher
annual
utility
cost
and
the
lifecycle
cost
compared
to
mixed
fuel
is
going
to
trend
downward
a
pg
e
cost
increase.
Estimates
went
from
one
percent
in
2017
to
six
percent
in
2018,
and
that
is
just
to
support
retrofitting
underground
pipes
to
current
regulations.
O
There
will
be
additional
future
costs
as
gas
infrastructure
reaches
its
end
of
service
life
and
must
be
replaced.
O
Southern
california,
gas
is
actually
proposing
a
42
percent
rate
increase
over
the
next
four
years,
for
example,
and
then
that
gas
pricing
that
trending
is
going
to
be
exacerbated
as
we
see
regional
and
statewide
pushes
towards
electrification
by
fixed
cost
for
gas
utility
customers
getting
spread
over
a
smaller
and
smaller
customer
base.
O
Finally,
while
it
is
important
to
be
mindful
of
costs,
we
need
to
be,
we
need
to
remember
that
what
gets
built
under
this
reach
code
will
be
multi-generational
and
life
expectancy.
So
we
really
need
to
ask
ourselves
the
questions
how
long
we
want
natural
gas
and
fossil
fuel
to
potentially
be
around.
O
O
We've
moved
very
quickly
through
this
effort
and
are
actually
one
of
the
first
cities
coming
forward
to
our
council
and
keep
in
mind
this
is
the
proposal
is
in
response
to
the
cost
of
development
concerns
that
have
been
brought
to
the
team.
O
O
We
talked
about
this
a
little
bit,
but
just
to
go
over
the
terminology.
Again,
evie
capable
has
the
empty
raceway
or
conduit
some
electricity
electrical
capacity
space
in
the
panel
ev
ready
is
the
raceway
with
electric
service
capacity
over
current
protection,
wire
and
outlet,
and
then
ev
supply
equipment
has
everything
you
need
to
charge
the
vehicle
immediately.
O
Here
is
a
comparison
of
san
jose's
ev
requirements
against
some
other
cities.
You'll
see
an
added
definition
here
of
conduit.
Only
that
is
actually
less
onerous
than
ev
capable.
It
literally
literally
requires
conduit
only
and
no
panel
capacity,
which
we
think
is
going
to
add
costs
later,
which
is
why
we
went
with
capable.
O
How
do
we
get
to
these
numbers?
We
started
off
with
trying
to
mitigate
costs
and
balance
between
the
first
cost
of
construction
versus
coming
back
and
retrofitting
later,
while
the
ev
charging
infrastructure
does
not
facilit.
Excuse
me,
while
it
does
facilitate
our
policy
goals,
it
is
not
part
of
the
state's
cost
effectiveness
guidelines.
In
other
words,
it
adds
costs
without
presenting
a
direct
return
in
energy
efficiency
per
their
model.
O
Secondly,
we
get
at
minimum
another
pass
at
this
every
three
years
through
the
building
code
cycle
and
reach
codes
again
can
be
brought
even
more
often,
so
we
should
be
able
to
course
correct
on
this
fairly
frequently.
If,
if
we
find
ourselves
too
conservative
or
too
aggressive,
there
have
been
comments
to
the
8
amps
per
space,
provided
that
we
have
in
the
proposed
code.
O
Our
proposal
also
includes
solar
readiness
that
includes
identification
of
a
solar
ready
zone
on
the
roof
documentation
of
the
structural
load,
including
the
solar
panels,
an
interconnection
pathway.
The
night
2019
code
includes
solar
readiness
for
most
building
types.
Ours
extends
that
to
to
excluded
non-residential
buildings
under
the
2019
code.
O
It
also
ensures
alignment
with
the
2019
effective
date
of
january
first
for
that
new
building
code,
and
it
gives
us
more
impact
because
the
sooner
we
do
this
the
better
and
also
supports
our
climate,
smarter
and
american
cities,
challenge
goals.
O
Up
next,
we,
after
council
adoption
we
would
submit
the
code
to
the
cec
for
approval
and
public
comment,
provide
training
and
trainings
and
resources
for
city
staff
and
the
public,
including
builders,
and
then
the
the
effective
date
for
the
reach
code
would
would
be
seamless
with
the
rest
of
building
code
on
january
1st
next
year
and
then
we'd
continue
to
look
for
funding
opportunities
to
incentivize
all
electric
buildings,
further
evs
and
charging
infrastructure
in
san
jose
and
collect
and
report
data
on
the
reach
code
impact
as
part
of
our
regular
climate.
O
That
concludes
the
presentation,
but
I
know
chair
davis,
you
had
some
had
asked
for
a
summary
of
the
comments
received
this
morning
not
to
over
generalize,
but
they
they
basically
fell
into
two
main
categories.
One
was
sort
of
the
strength
of
the
electrification
signal
that
the
proposed
code
provides,
and
if
that
is,
would
be
strengthened
by
increasing
compliance
margins
back
up
to
where
they
were
in
the
first
iteration.
O
We
think
that
adding
the
electrification
readiness
back
into
the
code
has
has
maintained
that
strength,
but
that's
kind
of
what,
where
those
comments
were
focused
and
then
more
ev
spaces
and
more
electric
service
capacity
for
those
spaces.
Now
is
the
other
main
bucket.
A
L
Hi
good
afternoon,
dave
pochell
is
the
way
I
pronounce
it,
but
you
pronounced
it
more
accurately
than
I
do
myself.
I'm
here
today
to
represent
the
santa
clara
county
democratic
party
and
bring
to
your
attention
the
fact
that
we've
passed
a
resolution
encouraging
you
to
adopt
strong
reach
codes.
Okay,
go
strong
because
we
are
in
a
climate
emergency.
We
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
time,
the
intergovernmental
panel
on
climate
change.
L
Our
scientists
have
said
that
you
know
to
limit
warn
warming
to
one
and
a
half
degrees
celsius,
which
is
something
we
really
need
to
do,
because,
as
temperatures
go
up,
the
the
damage
that
is
inflicted
isn't
linear.
It
it'll
get
dramatically
worse.
If
we
go
above
that,
and
so
we
have
to
act
in
a
hurry,
in
their
words,
rapid,
far-reaching
and
unprecedented
changes
in
all
aspects
of
society,
and
so
we
can't
mess
around
here
and
I
thought
staff
did
a
wonderful
job.
L
Thank
you
in
showing
you
know
how
much
of
our
g
g
has.
Greenhouse
gases
are
produced
through
transportation
and
in
buildings,
and
so
you
know,
while
these
reach
codes
seem
a
little
mundane,
they're
really
the
way.
We're
acting
on
on
on
climate
change
and
we
could
probably
save
a
mega
ton,
or
at
least
a
ton
of
ghd,
turning
up
the
thermostat
in
here,
I'm
crazy.
L
At
any
rate,
you
know
it
it's
really
important,
and
this
is
our
opportunity
to
lead.
You
know
it
seems
like
we're
kind
of
following
san
francisco
and
following
mountain
view
and
oakland,
but
let's
at
least
start
here,
if,
if
you
can't
do
better
than
this,
we'll
we'll
see
you
next
year.
So
thank
you
for
your
time.
I
appreciate
it.
I
hope
this
moves
forward.
L
A
G
G
G
In
terms
of
these
retrofits
that
we
are
going
to
have
to
do
to
solve
the
crisis
of
climate
change,
every
piece
of
natural
gas
infrastructure
that
we
built
or
that
we
build
it's
going
to
be
a
liability
and,
quite
frankly,
it's
going
to
be
a
tragedy
that
we're
going
to
pay
for
down
the
road,
these
natural
gas
pieces
of
infrastructure.
It's
it's
really
going
to
be
a
stranded
asset
going
forward
and
that
increasing
cost
of
gas.
As
was
discussed,
I
think
these
predictions,
even
though
they
seem
like
they're,
going
to
be
going
up
and
up.
G
I
think,
they're,
even
more
conservative
than
what
we're
going
to
see
on
september.
20Th,
youth
all
around
the
world
are
going
to
strike
to
demand
immediate
action
on
climate
change,
we're
seeing
cities
take
action,
and
I
think
this
is
going
to
generate
real
momentum.
That's
going
to
change
the
way
we
do
things
we
are
in
a
defining
moment
right
now,
and
the
market
is
ready.
The
people
are
ready.
The
community
is
ready.
We
can
do
this,
let's
adopt
alternative
one
as
written
in
the
staff
memo
and
have
a
clean,
simple,
all-electric
reach
code.
Thank
you.
Q
Q
R
Hello,
everybody,
so
I'm
with
the
sunrise
movement
and
yesterday
was
at
a
meeting
regarding
the
upcoming
strike
dash
mentioned
20th
of
september.
I
will
be
right
outside
city
hall
right
here
and
we
were
planning
this.
I
met
daschle,
who
told
me
about
this
issue
and
a
number
of
other
people
who
were
interested
but
could
not
be
here
because
1
30
p.m.
R
They
are
many
of
them
back
at
school.
So
right
here,
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
48
people
who
have
not
been
able
to
come
today,
but
very
much
care
about
this
issue
for
a
lot
of
the
reasons
that
other
people
have
been
talking
about
and
other
people
will
talk
about.
I
hear
that
berkeley
is
the
only
other
city
to
have
done
what
is
being
proposed
today
and
we
are
going
to
be
sunrise-
is
going
to
be
talking
about.
Wherever
is
ahead
of
the
curve
leading
the
parade.
R
Someone
said
if
we
can
be
part
of
it,
then
we
are
going
to
be
promoting
all
the
awesome
work.
I
think
everybody's
on
board,
for
it
cool.
A
Thank
you,
and
before
the
next
speaker,
just
a
second
diane
bailey
paradela
forge
maria
stamis,
axem,
tafara
and
matthew
gao.
Please
line
up.
Thank
you.
I
I
My
members
include
manufacturers
of
the
types
of
equipment
that
would
be
discouraged
or
no
longer
allowed
to
be
sold
in
san
jose.
If
your
policy
is
adopted
today,
we
represent
96
of
north
america's
hot
water,
heater
manufacturers
and
about
40
percent
of
the
heating
ventilation
and
air
conditioning
manufacturers
in
north
america,
and
I'm
here
to
say
that
they
are
supportive
of
san
jose
and
other
cities
in
california
adopting
these
reach
codes,
because
these
manufacturers
are
clearly
seeing
the
direction
that
the
state
and
the
country
is
going,
which
is
one
towards
electrification
of
heating
sources.
I
I
just
wanted
to
come
and
give
a
brief
update
about
some
of
the
things
that
are
going
on
around
california
that
we're
seeing
didn't
start
the
time
yep
I'll,
keep
it
doing
only
a
minute
left.
I
I
I
In
california,
we
should
not
be
including
unnecessary
infrastructure,
that's
in
as
out
of
alignment
with
our
climate
goals
and
our
energy
goals
here
in
the
state
and
here
in
the
city.
So
I
just
want
to
finish
by
saying
electric
buildings
they're
cheaper
to
build
they're
cheaper
to
operate
they're
healthier
for
occupants
they're,
healthier
for
communities
and
they're
better
for
climate
change,
there's
no
reason
to
be
building
natural
gas
fueled
buildings
anymore
into
the
future,
and
I
look
forward
to
seeing
your
deliberations
moving
forward.
Thank
you.
K
K
K
In
2017
we
published
spare
the
air
cool
the
climate,
a
regional,
clean
air
plan
that
serves
as
a
blueprint
for
a
bay
area
with
a
post-carbon
economy
and
clean
air
for
all
in
an
effort
to
implement
innovative
strategies
towards
its
future.
The
air
district
awarded
the
city
of
san
jose
a
2018
climate
protection
grant
to
launch
a
pilot
electric
heat
pump,
water,
heater
education
and
incentive
program
focused
on
retrofits
and
residential
buildings.
K
K
There
is
an
urgency
to
this
climate
crisis
and
the
adoption
of
a
strong
reach
code
is
a
necessity
for
it
to
meet
our
global
climate
goals.
This
adoption
will
position
san
jose
as
a
leader
and
serve
as
a
model
for
other
bay
area.
Municipalities
and
the
air
district
is
very
eager
to
work
with
you
all
collaboratively
to
take
steps
to
implement
climate,
smart,
san,
jose
and
reach
code.
Thank
you.
R
Next,
all
right,
hello,
everyone,
my
name
is
matt
goff
and
I'm
here
today
on
behalf
of
the
sierra
club
and
our
16
000
members
here
in
san
jose.
I
want
to
thank
staff.
First
of
all
for
that
fantastic
presentation.
R
R
San
jose
will
not
be
alone
in
deciding
to
move
towards
electrification.
The
city
of
carlsbad
has
already
opted
to
remove
heat
pump
or
to
remove
furnaces
gas
furnaces
out
of
their
appliances.
The
city
of
berkeley
has
moved
to
ban
gas
in
new
construction.
San
luis
obispo
recently
passed
an
aggressive
reach
code.
Santa
monica
is
voting
tomorrow
on
a
reach
code.
Menlo
park
is
voting
to
move
gas
out
of
their
new
construction.
R
K
The
current
status
quo
and
folks
from
palo
alto
can
tell
you
that
it
will
take
a
much
stronger
incentive
for
builders
to
change
their
standards
and
their
habits
when
palo
alto
passed
a
reach
code
with
similarly
small
incentives
as
the
current
staff
or
draft
reach
code
most
of
the
projects
over
the
past
few
years,
as
it
turns
out,
wound
up
using
natural
gas,
and
that
was
not
the
intent
of
the
reach
code.
Fortunately,
now
they
have
a
chance
to
to
fix
that,
but
I
hope
that
you
won't
repeat
that
mistake.
K
K
K
Unfortunately,
there
are
a
lot
of
good
models
that
have
been
discussed
here
tonight
and
I
won't
review
them,
but
you
don't
have
to
reinvent
the
wheel.
You
can
use
one
of
those
all-electric
models
that
some
cities
have
already
adopted
and
we
hope
that
you'll
move
forward
with
that
for
september
17th,
we
noticed
the
mayor's
op-ed
in
the
san
jose
mercury
a
few
weeks
ago.
It
was
an
excellent
show
of
support
for
climate
action
and
leadership.
Mayor
lucardo
noted
that
electrification,
together
with
local
energy
and
storage,
can
help
us
rapidly
decarbonize
our
economy.
K
K
C
K
E
The
tragic
wildfires
of
2017
and
2018,
the
coyote
creek
flowed
flood
here
in
san
jose
record
heat
waves
hurricanes.
These
are
just
a
few
of
the
increasingly
pressing
calls
for
ambitious
and
urgent
climate
action.
San
jose
has
rarely
recognized
this
need
and
is
to
be
commanded
for
committing
to
such
action
in
this
climate.
E
We
support
the
proposal,
but
we
also
urge
adoption
of
one
of
the
stronger
alternatives
in
the
staff
report.
We
realize
that
some
stakeholders
are
still
concerned
about
potential
cost
impacts
and
we
respect
these
concerns,
but
the
input
from
many
building
professionals
who
are
already
building
all
electric
today
is
clear.
E
Once
the
rich
code
provides
policy,
certainty
and
scale
to
the
market,
the
market
will
adapt
very
quickly
and
shift
its
focus
on
how
to
comply
most
cost
effectively
with
the
new
requirements.
Further
reducing
cost,
and
this
will
unleash
an
inherently
more
affordable
way
to
build
and
operate
a
building,
helping
make
housing
more
affordable
in
san
jose.
But
to
achieve
this
market
transformation
and
its
benefits,
the
rich
code
must
provide
a
meaningful
enough
incentive
and
make
electric
construction
the
norm.
E
Building
design.
Experts
estimate
that
this
requires
raising
the
bar,
but
at
least
10
to
15
percent
for
buildings,
using
gas
and
using
a
consistent
threshold
so
that
we
provide
simplicity
to
the
market.
So
you
know,
depending
on
the
buildings
you
build,
is
not
five
or
seven
or
or
more
percent
so
chair
and
committee
members,
california,
cities
are
currently
making
history
by
launching
a
zero
emissions
building
movement.
Maybe
I
should
call
it
a
parade.
E
A
C
Good
afternoon,
council
members-
I'm
my
name-
is
maria
stamos,
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
the
natural
resource,
defense
council's
more
than
6
400
members
and
activists
in
san
jose,
100
of
nearly
100
of
whom
have
submitted
support
letters,
I'm
also
an
attorney
and
technical
strategist,
and
I
lead
our
building's
energy
efficiency
and
decarbonization
work
for
the
american
cities,
climate
challenge,
of
which
you've
heard
mention
of
today.
The
city
of
san
jose
was
chosen
as
a
winner
of
the
climate
challenge,
due
to
its
ambitious
vision
and
commitment
to
execute
upon
the
paris
compliant
climate.
C
Smart,
san
jose
strategies
and
the
reach
code
is
the
first
major
initiative
to
receive
climate
challenge.
Support
san
jose's
building's
reach
code
is
one
of
those
wind
squared
policies,
by
which
I
mean
it
has
multiple
benefits,
as
staff's
presentation
showed,
it's
utterly
reasonable
and
it
exemplifies
the
smart
leadership
that
san
jose
is
well
known
for
you've
already
heard
many
of
the
benefits
from
others.
C
However,
as
someone
with
several
years
experience
in
the
affordable
housing
sector-
specifically,
I
wanted
to
address
those
concerns
and
talk
specifically
about
how
the
reach
code
can
benefit
lower
income,
renters
and
affordable
housing
developers
so
because
of
the
reach
code's
efficient
technologies
and
retrofit
ready
features.
Homeowners
and
renters
will
save
money
on
their
utility
bills
increasingly
over
time,
as
any
new
building
connected
to
gas
will
either
have
to
be
retrofitted
at
much
higher
expense,
and
it
will
also
lock
occupants
into
gas
bills
that
are
projected
to
increase
over
time.
C
The
reach
code
save
developers
money
as
well
as
you've
already
heard.
When
developers
build
all
electric
buildings,
they
either
don't
incur
any
additional
upfront
costs
or
those
costs
are
very,
very
minimal.
Now.
What
I
did
want
to
acknowledge
and
address
is
that
san
jose's
code
does
call
for
increased
ev
charging
infrastructure.
C
However,
those
costs
are
estimated
at
approximately
one
one,
one
thousandth
to
two
one
thousandths
of
the
overall
construction
costs,
so
very
minimal
and
very
prudent.
So
san
jose
is
already
a
city
with
the
greatest
market
share
of
evs
and
charging
infrastructure
is
needed
to
help
continue
meeting
that
demand.
C
J
R
R
When
we
started
it
was
novel
and
it
was
a
little
hard
and
it
was
a
little
bit
more
expensive,
but
that's
changed
and
it's
become
routine
in
the
last
10
years
and
the
cost
is
now
equivalent
or
less
we've
been
bidding
out
projects.
In
one
case,
we
bid
it
out
with
both
gas
and
electric
and
it
came
back
equivalent,
but
we
were
able
to
eliminate
a
73
000
gas
connection
line.
So
it
was
that
much
cheaper.
R
Our
biggest
client
is
university.
California.
They
now
require
all
buildings
of
all
types
on
all
10
of
their
campuses,
all
over
the
state
to
not
use
gas
for
heating
and
hot
water.
One
of
the
reasons
they're
doing
that
is
they
don't
want
to
put
that
infrastructure
in
their
buildings
and
then
have
to
take
it
out
in
the
next
15
years,
with
some
retrofit
mandate,
so
our
clients
that
own
their
buildings
are
worried
about
installing
equipment
that
they're
then
going
to
have
to
take
out.
R
When
I
started
on
this
reach
code
stuff,
I
interviewed
seven
of
the
mechanical
engineering
firms
that
we
work
with
and
said:
hey
guys,
we're
responsible
we're
sending
our
names
to
this.
Are
we
ready?
They
said?
Yes,
we're
ready.
I
would
encourage
you
to
strengthen
it.
We're
routinely
required
by
clients
to
design
above
title
24..
Uc
requires
us
to
design
20
better
than
title.
24
csu
requires
us
to
sign
10
better,
so
a
small
compliant
margin
is
not
very
much
incentive.
R
Menlo
park
is
they're
requiring
all
electric,
but
then
giving
exceptions
for
the
things
they
just
couldn't
get
over
like
a
fireplace
or
a
gas
stove,
and
they
made
one
exception
for
research
labs.
So
I
wouldn't.
I
would
really
encourage
you
to
go
all
electric
sonoma
clean
power
offered
very
significant
financial
incentives
to
gold
electric,
and
yet
only
a
third
of
the
homeowners
took
it.
So
I'm
concerned
that
a
small
compliance
margin
is
not
very
effective.
R
Hi,
my
name
is
dan
meigen
with
tesla
wanted
to.
Thank
you
all
for
taking
this
up
today.
Thank
you
staff
for
all
your
work
on
the
report.
We
applaud
these
efforts
greatly.
We
certainly
are
interested
in
seeing
more
electric
vehicles
into
the
world
as
our
stated
mission
to
further
these
efforts,
we
we've
submitted
some
written
commentary
around
requirements
for
ev
capable
spaces
in
particular,
and
I
have
a
bunch
of
notes,
but
I
think
I
just
kind
of
wanted
to
go
a
little
off
the
cuff
here.
R
I
I
don't
normally
do
this,
not
our
normal
policy
person
for
these
sort
of
things,
I'm
responsible
for
level
two
infrastructure
around
the
world.
That's
ac
charging,
and
I
support
teams
globally
that
do
this
and
the
thing
that
that
really
prevents
customers
from
moving
forward
with
an
electric
vehicle
purchase.
R
R
So
this
comes
back
to
the
8
amp
issue
that
you've
brought
up
is
really
one
of
the
best
things
you
can
do
to
ensure
that,
when
someone's
at
a
at
a
critical
point
of
deciding
to
move
forward
with
an
electric
vehicle
that
it's
it's
seen
as
something
that's
that's
easily
done
with
the
infrastructure.
That's
already
in
place.
You
mentioned
these
are
multi-generational
buildings.
R
C
Good
afternoon
I'm
miter
rose
sylvester
representing
the
campaign
for
fossil
free
buildings.
In
silicon
valley,
we
ask
you
to
revert
to
at
least
as
strong
compliance
margins
and
ev
charging
requirements
as
found
in
version
one
or
even
better,
simplify
and
strengthen
your
approach
by
adopting
a
version
of
alternative
one
in
the
staff
report
focusing
on
going
all
electric.
C
We
want
san
jose
to
follow
the
great
examples
being
set
in
other
cities
such
as
menlo
park,
san
luis
obispo
and
santa
rosa,
which
are
focusing
on
nearly
all
electric
code.
We
ask
san
jose
to
set
examples
for
other
large
cities
and
continue
your
leadership
in
climate
change,
management
and
prevention.
C
San
jose
can
do
this
in
one
of
two
ways:
raise
the
compliance
and
margin
margins
and
electric
vehicle
requirements
to
meet
the
silicon
valley
clean
energy
code.
These
compliance
margins
were
based
on
very
careful
cost
modeling
of
the
statewide
studies
sponsored
by
the
cec
and
represent
the
best
and
most
realistic
mitigations
for
the
impact
of
mixed
fuel
buildings.
C
They
were
set
to
encourage
electrification
dramatically.
Dropping
these
margins
to
the
current
level
in
the
draft
will
disincentivize
electrification
or
better
choose
a
more
elegant,
more
simple
solution
and
choose
alternative
one.
We
understand
the
concerns
expressed
by
some
stakeholders
that
higher
compliance
margins
can
be
restrictive.
C
You
could
design
a
set
of
exemptions
that
meet
city
stakeholder
needs,
for
example,
exempting
the
downtown
area
if
electric
was
seen
as
a
deterrent
to
high-rise
development
or
for
affordable
housing.
If
it's
considered
too
burdensome
I'd
like
to.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
leadership
today.
Thank
you
very
much.
S
Good
afternoon,
members
of
the
committee,
my
name
is
oscar
castro
policy
associated
with
silicon
valley
at
home.
First
off,
we
would
like
to
thank
city
staff
for
all
their
hard
work
throughout
this
process,
as
well
as
being
responsive
to
our
organization
and
our
affordable
housing
development
partners.
We
are
a
strong
supporter
of
the
stand
up
city
of
san
jose's,
climate,
smart
initiative
and
ongoing
efforts
to
reduce
our
climate.
Our
carbon
footprint
city-wide.
S
However,
given
san
jose's
affordable
housing
shortage,
we
should
be
mindful
of
how
any
policy
may
create
adverse
effects
on
the
financial
feasibility
of
affordable
housing
development.
In
that
spirit,
we
ask
that
the
committee
take
into
account
specific
proposed
regulations
that
have
created
pause
among
our
development
partners,
specifically
ev
requirements
at
certain
income
levels,
such
as
permanent
supportive
housing,
where
many
residents
are
more
likely
to
utilize
other
forms
of
transit,
such
as
mass
transit.
We
recommend
that
the
committee
and
the
entire
council
consider
reducing
parking
requirements.
S
Ev
parking
requirements
for
affordable
housing,
development
and
deeper
deeper
levels
of
affordability,
such
as
permanent
supportive
housing
state
law,
recognizes
senior
needs
senior
special
needs.
Permanent
supportive
housing
require
far
fewer
parking
spaces,
and
we
would
do
so
as
well
as
at
the
local
level,
as
the
city
continues
to
review
the
cost
of
development
to
find
out
how
we
can
make
projects
more
feasible.
Adding
additional
construction
costs
will
only
deter
housing
production
at
a
time
when
it
is
greatly
needed.
S
A
Thank
you
before
the
next
speaker
will
the
following
people
line
up
mary
buxton
zoe,
volpa
marshall,
woodmancy,
julie,
ellingham,
linda
hutchins,
knowles
and
karen
nelson.
Thank
you.
B
Hold
on
no
just
okay,
good
good,
good
good.
Thank
you
very
much.
Well,
I
hate
to
spoil
the
party
again
because
it
sounds
so
fun
all
these
electric
cars
and
things
like
that.
But
we
really
I
do
support
the
electrification
of
our
buildings.
B
I
think
that's
a
very
good
idea
and
we
should
be
doing
that
and
I
I'm
very
I'm
happy
that
you're
considering
that,
as
we
have
faced
so
many
problems
with
natural
gas
and
there
are
so
many
problems
with
it
that
we
do
not
need
to
come
into
our
homes
and
I
definitely
feel
safer,
not
having
natural
gas
on
our
house.
So
we
need
to
really
work
on
helping
everybody
not
have
natural
gas.
B
So
we
don't
have
to
experience
the
problems
that
we've
experienced
in
san
bruno
throughout
our
community,
so
that,
but
in
addition,
this
issue
of
the
electrification
of
our
fleet
of
cars
that
I
always
look
at
the
forty
thousand
deaths
from
cars
a
year.
Forty
thousand
deaths
from
cars
a
year
and
two
point:
five
million
maimed
and
disabled
human
beings
from
cars
every
year,
2.5
million
maimed
and
disabled
every
year
from
cars,
and
we
don't
solve
that
problem
just
by
electrifying,
because
the
car
in
and
of
itself
is
not
human
scale.
B
It
goes
now
at
100
miles
an
hour.
It
has
the
tinted
windows.
It
has
anonymity
you're,
not
talking
to
your
neighbor
with
the
car
so
to
put
in
the
infrastructure
that
makes
it.
You
know.
Car
ready
is
putting
a
seal
of
approval
on
our
cars
and
we
need
to
really
get
away
from
the
car.
The
car
is
a
problem.
So
what
you
know,
all
I
can
say
is
that
at
least
you
can
put
in
maybe
the
conduit
and
the
little
bit
of
you
know
in
for
the
lowest
amount
of
infrastructure
to
support
the
ev
car.
B
Yes,
it's
an
improvement
of
our
out
of
our
inter
internal
combustion
engine,
yes,
but
it
still
has
many
of
the
problems
of
the
car,
and
the
last
thing
is
that
when
we
we
mined
lithium,
we
are
destroying
the
the
the
desert
in
chilean
desert.
So
you
know
to
say
that
it's
going
to
expand
all
of
our
electricity
to
support
cars.
That
is
not
the
way
it
needs
to
go,
so
we
need
to
reduce
the
car
load.
B
C
C
Hello,
I'm
mary
buxton
and
I
retired
two
years
ago
and
my
retirement
job
is
working
on
climate
change
with
350
silicon
valley
and
also
sit
on
the
board
of
the
executive
committee
of
the
loma
prieta
sierra
club.
So
this
is
kind
of
what
I'm
doing
with
my
time
nowadays
is
working
on
well,
actually
getting
civically
involved,
which
is
pretty
exciting.
C
They
are
less
expensive
to
build
and
are
cheaper
to
operate
and
will
get
cheaper
to
operate
over
time
because
the
costs
on
all
these
things
are
coming
down.
And
finally,
I
think
this
is
really
an
essential
and
huge
impact
area
to
reduce
greenhouse
gases
and
greenhouse
gas
emissions
and
to
fight
climate
change,
and
I
thank
you
all
for
all
that
you
do
sitting
here
every
day
through
all
these
meetings
or
when
you
have
meetings
and
thank
you.
C
We
and
our
partners
believe
that
the
current
proposal
needs
to
be
significantly
strengthened
in
order
to
really
just
in
order
to
increase
the
chances,
it
will
actually
drive
the
intended
decisions
and
results
which
are
for
high
levels
of
building
electrification
and
cost-effective
preparation
for
the
ev
transition.
Now
there
might
be
multiple
ways
to
achieve
that.
C
Q
We'd,
like
you
to
think
about
these
two
fire
more
aggressive
reach
codes
with
these
two
tools
in
tandem
that
you
may
want
to
allow
natural
gas
use
for
single
family,
residential,
cooktops
and
fireplaces,
and
that
to
continue
encouraging
the
growth
that
we
know
san
jose
wants.
You
may
want
to
include
industry,
specific
exemptions
and
an
appeal
process
by
applying
draft2's
limited
standards
for
true
hardship.
So
we
know
that
by
doing
those
two
things
by
using
those
tools,
you
can
feel
really
pretty
comfortable
by
moving
forward
to
far
more
aggressive
reach
codes.
Q
C
Hi,
I'm
linda
hutchins
knowles,
with
mothers
out
front
south
bay,
a
group
of
about
a
thousand
others
and
others
of
the
city
that
are
working
for
the
full
climate
for
all
children.
I
want
to
start
by
thanking
staff
for
all
the
thought
that
went
into
this
reach
code,
the
excellent
presentation
and
for
the
community
engagement
that
you
invited
and
participated
in.
We
know
you're
trying
to
balance
a
lot
of
needs.
We
think
appreciate
you
listening
to
all
these
presentations
and
comments
and
considering
what
best
to
do
in
this
situation.
C
We
agree
with
the
majority
of
the
comments
here
that
we
need
to
have
a
strong
reach
code
and
the
current
draft
is
not
going
to
cut
it.
It's
just
not
going
to
get
us
to
the
goals
of
the
american
cities,
climate
challenge.
C
We
believe
that
we
can
strengthen
it
either
through
alternative
one,
the
original
actually
draft
one
and
higher
compliance
margins
or
through
an
all-electric
code.
We
actually
think
that
all
electric
is
the
way
we're
going.
That's
the
wave
of
the
future.
It
was
kind
of
disappointing
to
see
where
san
jose
would
be
positioned
kind
of
in
the
back
of
the
pack.
We
are
the
capital
of
silicon
valley.
We
can
be
the
leaders
here.
Why
led
berkeley
and
menlo
park
have
that
mantle?
Why
don't
we
claim
that
we
do
the
best
for
our
children's
health?
C
My
daughter
has
asthma.
We
were
able
to
afford
to
put
an
induction
stove.
She
no
longer
has
to
breathe
those
noxious
fumes.
Other
families
cannot
afford
to
do
that
if
they
live
in
an
apartment
with
gas
they're
stuck
with
that
so
for
equity,
for
health
and
for
climate.
We
think
this
needs
to
be
much
stronger.
C
Don't
be
scared
by
outdated
information.
You
all
got
a
letter
from
stett
sanburn
of
the
smith
group.
He
is
in
a
builder
and
has
done
many
electric
all-electric
buildings
for
less
cost
than
gas.
So
this
is
here.
The
technology
is
here
today
for
this,
please
don't
delay.
We
don't
have
three
more
years
to
get
this
right.
This
is
the
time
to
get
the
strongest
possible
of
each
code.
You
can.
The
climate
feedback
loops
are
accelerating
and
and
don't
settle.
You
can
make
it
much
stronger.
You
have
a
great
tool
with
the
reach
code.
C
It's
the
second
most
impactful
thing
after
community
choice,
energy,
but
only
if
you
make
it
strong,
so
we
ask
you
to
you,
know
direct
staff
to
go
back
and
come
back
with
one
of
the
stronger
alternatives,
we're
counting
on
you
if
you're
all
in
on
the
paris
climate
agreement,
please
be
all
in
on
the
reach
code.
Thank
you
so
much.
Thank
you.
G
Hello,
council
and
staff-
thank
you
all
for
being
here
today.
My
name
is
marshall
amanci
candidate
for
city
council
district.
Six,
it's
difficult
to
see
the
charts
where
berkeley's
always
so
much
farther
ahead,
there's
a
lot
of
them
out
there.
You
know
in
a
lot
of
different
sectors
and
they're
always
do
I
have
to
start
this.
G
No,
I
don't
okay,
it
shows
that
berkeley
is
doing
the
right
things
for
climate
action
and
it's
distressing
that
those
charts
seem
to
propose
that
san
jose
is
either
not
doing
the
right
thing
for
climate
action
or
they
could
be
doing
more,
but
I
don't
think
that
that's
any
reason
for
us
to
be
disheartened.
G
We
have
done
some
amazing
things
before,
especially
as
the
capital
of
silicon
valley.
People
are
recording
this
on
phones
when,
back
in
my
day,
phones
are
a
lot
bigger
right.
We've
done
these
incredible
technological
advancements.
I
don't
think
I
don't
think
that
a
building
code
increase
is
going
to
be
challenging
at
all.
G
I
do
highly
encourage
you
to
adopt
alternative
one
all
electric
and
as
well
as
going
to
residential,
because
it
is
going
to
take
all
of
us.
It's
going
to
take
every
building
every
person
every
sector
to
make
the
changes
necessary.
I
want
to
when
I
speak
on
the
climate
strike
this
next
on
the
20th.
I
want
to
tell
the
kids
that
are
there
who
have
put
aside
their
own
schooling
to
be
there,
that
people
in
city
government
are
also
putting
aside
time
energy
resources
to
fulfill
the
demands
that
these
students
are
bringing.
G
G
That's
not
the
conversation
I
want
to
have
with
them,
and
you
shouldn't
want
to
have
that
conversation
with
them
either.
So
I
greatly
encourage
you
to
do
all
that
you
can
to
adopt
alternative
one
and
further
codes
and
reaches
for
the
greenification,
the
electrification
of
our
city.
Thank
you.
So
much.
C
A
student
at
dienza-
I
don't
think,
there's
something
that
I
can
say
that
somebody
else
hasn't
already
said
that
you
know
I
don't
agree
with.
So
I
guess
I'm
just
here
to
say
that
a
lot
of
people
have
talked
about
the
climate
strike
on
september
20th
and
from
what
I've
learned.
There's
only
two
ways.
C
The
change
has
ever
been
made
in
history
and
it's
either
through
legislation
or
through
people
gathering
in
the
streets,
and
you
all
have
the
biggest
opportunity
and
privilege
of
being
the
ones
to
make
those
decisions
for
us,
and
I
would
really
like
you
to
support
the
aggressive
reach
code
in
alternative
one,
because
we
can't
wait.
I
think
somebody
said
that
you
know
if
this
doesn't
pass
they'll
be
back
here
next
year
for
the
vote.
C
T
Thank
you
chair,
so
I
have
some
questions
about
some
of
the
outreach
that
that
was
outlined.
T
It
had
59
stakeholders
and
then
I
think,
200
neighborhood
associations
were
those
completed
with
the
200
engage
or
with
the
200
neighborhood
associations
invited.
O
The
the
main
group
we
were
going
after
was
the
same
building
stakeholder
list
that
we
had
used
for
the
building
performance
ordinance
last
year.
O
To
get
those
those
folks
in
the
room
for
the
neighborhoods
is
more
for
their
information
because
they
obviously
already
live
in
a
constructed
building.
So
didn't
expect
a
lot
of
response.
There.
T
Sure
it
it
to
me
it
it's
always
important
to
involve
our
community,
because
they
are
also
the
ones
who
are
either
clogging
up
our
our
freeways
or
using
mass
transit
and
freeing
up
our
freeways
right
and
so
either
way.
I
think
most
people
have
a
really
good,
some
really
great
feedback
to
provide
us
in
some
direction
to
provide
us
when
we're
making
these
kinds
of
decisions,
because
these
are
these
are
going
to
impact
us
for
for
many
many
years.
T
Let
me
ask
you
about
the
some
folks.
I've
heard
really
happy
about
this
version
that
you've
brought
forward,
but
there
there
are
some
folks
who
talked
about
the
draft
one,
but
the
first
was
their
first
choice.
Can
you
can
you
share
the
reasons
why
it
the
this
is
the
version
that
you
brought
forward?
Was
it
because
of
the
stakeholders
that
that
kind
of
helped
shape
this?
Was
it
because
of
our
state
of
affairs
with
development?
N
Thank
you.
You
know
part
of
the
way
that
we
approach
outreach
is
to
be
open-minded
and
to
listen
and
and
respond
to
the
community.
So
so,
as
we
worked
with
predominantly
the
development
community
and
also
the
affordable,
affordable
housing
community,
we
heard
concerns
about
cost.
We
heard
a
lot
of
ideas
for
exemption
processes
and
and
to
be
honest,
those
are
very
administratively
burdensome
and
they
can
create
an
additional
cost
for
the
city,
but
it
can
also
slow
process.
N
N
We,
as
staff
feel
very
strongly
that
all
of
our
community
should
participate
and
that
we
should
not
exempt
affordable
housing
from
something
that
we
think
is
good
for
the
environment,
but
also
good
for
public
health,
and
so
we
didn't
feel
like
we
should
exclude
them.
So
so
the
the
compromise
is
what
what
we're
putting
forward,
because
we
think
that
is
respective
of
what
we
heard
from
the
community
that
participated
and
to
your
earlier
question.
N
J
N
Think
we
have
more
participants
today
than
than
in
our
process,
which
kind
of
makes
me
really
proud
to
be
be
a
san
jose
resident
that
people
are
interested
they're
engaged
and
they
they
took
time
to
come
out.
So
so
we
certainly
learned
a
lot
today
as
well.
Great.
T
I
actually
a
lot
of
these
folks
here,
helped
us
with
our
our
measure
c,
and
I
think
it
was
I've
seen
folks
from
committee
for
green
foothills,
the
audubon
society,
sarah
club
mothers
out
front.
T
These
are
all
folks
who
helped
us
with
legislation
last
year
when,
when
our
industrial
land
was
at
risk-
and
they
did
a
really
wonderful
job
of
involving
the
community-
and
so
I
would
say,
let's
extend
that
offer
to
these
folks,
because
I
you
know
these
are
the
these-
are
the
community
members
that
can
bring
others
in,
even
though
it
was
not
a
presidential
year.
T
We,
I
think
we
had
like
about
a
70
vote
on
measure
c
and
then
against
measure
b,
the
same
and
so
we've
seen
the
power
of
our
community,
and
I
would
say
that
we
we
still
need
to
continue
to
engage
them
in
this
process.
I
feel
like.
Maybe
this
is
not
completely
been
heard
with
our
community.
T
T
How
plausible
is
it
for
them
to
actually
finish
that
and
make
that
eevee
ready?
I
I
don't
know
what
what
those
amounts
are
to
take
that
to
take
evie
capable
to
evie
ready
for
a
resident,
and
I
don't
know
who
that
person
would
be,
who
who
would
be
responsible
for
making
that
evie
capable
actually
capable.
O
So
I
could
use
myself
as
an
example.
I
I
had
to
install
av
infrastructure
at
my
house
and
because
none
of
that
was
there
in
advance,
it
involved
a
full
panel
replacement
and
upgrade
and
then
running
all
the
conduit
to
where
the
charger
unit
is.
So.
We
know
that
if
we
have
an
ev
capable
spot
put
in
at
the
time
of
construction,
the
upgrade
to
ready
is
really
just
a
few
hundred
dollars.
It's
not
a
big
ad.
O
Everything's
there
you
just
need
to
run
the
wire
to
that
and
install
the
plug.
N
I
would
also
add,
though,
that
having
every
resident
in
san
jose
go
home
and
charge
their
car
at
night
is
not
something
that
that
lori
tells
me
is
desirable.
N
So
so
we
want
to
be
mindful
that
home
charging
is
not
the
only
solution
out
there
and
that
today
the
team
tells
me
there
are
13
000
evs
in
san
jose.
So
as
technology
evolves,
we
don't
necessarily
want
to
have
a
lot
of
infrastructure
in
place.
That's
not
used
usable
yet
already
to
be
used
and
as
as
ken
and
the
team
have
have
expressed
today,
technology
is
evolving,
so
load
shifting
software
and
other
storage
technologies
and
continue
to
evolve.
C
N
O
Just
that
we
tried
to
balance
having
the
developments
be
ready
for
that
ev
market
when
it
arrives
in
the
future,
without
adding
all
of
that
cost
for
a
full
ev
readiness
or
ev
service
equipment
situation,
land
right
now,
so
they're
not
prohibited
from
doing
that.
They're
facilitated
in
doing
that
later.
O
If
we
do,
if
we
take
us
kind
of
a
smaller
step
right
now
and
have
those
spots
ready
for
them,
if
we
have,
I
think
three
percent
of
registered
vehicles
in
san
jose,
roughly
our
electric
vehicles,
our
our
proposed
draft
hits
about
a
50
of
some
some
level
of
ev
readiness.
O
P
And
one
of
the
comments
that
we
received
from
construction
community
was
that
even
with
ev
ready,
it's
not
being
utilized
at
this
time,
so
providing
additional
ev
ready
would
be
space
kind
of
wasting
a
space
and
unburdened
burden
for
a
cost
increase
for
providing
this
unnecessary
item.
At
this
point,
so
50
of
parking
space,
if
you
look
at
it,
let's
assume,
for
example,
we
have
100
parking
spaces,
50
is
50
parking,
spaces
will
have
a
conduits
for
future.
Wiring,
which
is
ken
mentioned,
is
retrofit.
Costs
will
be
very
trivial.
P
To
overall
construction
cost
at
this
point.
T
T
We
expect
that
we
expect
to
see
that
and-
and
my
mind
goes
to
to
some
of
the
communities
that
are
overcrowded
right
and
currently
don't
have
the
benefit
of
of
enjoying
some
of
these
things,
and
I
know
that
if
a
family
decides
to
have
an
electric
car,
typically
they'll
come
to
work
charge
it
at
work
or
at
some
public
spot
right.
So
I
I
get
that
you
don't
want
to
have
some
feature
ready
there
without
it
having
an
actual
use.
T
So
I
I
I
understand
that,
and
I
I
like
to,
I
think,
hear
a
little
bit
more
from
our
community
to
see
exactly
what
what
would
be
a
middle
ground.
It
seems
like
it's
either
what
you're
offering
now
or
the
first
draft
and-
and
I'm
not
sure,
maybe
this
is
a
discussion
that
we'll
take
to
the
greater
council
and
the
greater
all
of
the
council
can
just
then
decide.
T
N
No
pressure,
you
know
we're
also
bringing
forward
an
electric
vehicle
strategy
as
part
of
climate
smart,
and
so
we
are
moving
that
package
as
well
and
then,
as
some
of
the
affordable
housing
folks
have
mentioned,
you
know
there
is
a
need
to
look
at
how
much
parking
should
be
required
going
forward.
So
lots
of
lots
of
companion
policies
are
also
coming
forward,
which,
as
the
team
kind
of
weighed
the
pros
and
cons,
it
was
not
not
wanting
to
shift
too
far
in
a
direction
that
then
we
might
move
from.
Q
J
N
T
I'll
go
back
to
to
my
the
piece
about
the
overcrowding
and
then
and
the
no
exceptions
that
you
mentioned
earlier,
but
earlier,
even
with
affordable
housing
developments,
and
that
concerns
me,
because
those
are
two
different
in
those
are
two
different
populations
right.
We
know
that
most
of
the
folks
who
are
going
to
go
into
affordable
housing
may
not
have
the
same
resources
as
everybody
else,
and
so
I
don't
think
that
we
should
treat
everything
the
same.
T
It
is
not
equal
the
development
that
we're
building
here
in
the
downtown
area
when
it's
not
going
to
be
all
affordable
housing.
It's
we
know
that
right.
So
so
why?
Wouldn't
we
make
exceptions
for
affordable
housing
so
that
those
folks
could
also
we
can
bring
them
forward.
T
Slowly
right,
you
already
mentioned
that
that
there
may
be
some
lack
of
use
at
some
of
these
sites
and
maybe
with
newer
technology
for
whatever
I
don't
know
what
the
new
technology
would
be.
That
would
replace
this.
I
don't
venture
to
pretend
to
know,
but,
but
I
think
there
there
could
be
exceptions
to
the
role
and
I
see
affordable
housing
as
one
of
those.
So
I
hope
that
you
can
take
that
into
consideration
when
we
come
back
next
week.
N
S
N
So
we
think
part
of
the
question
is
how
much
parking
should
there
be
there,
of
course,
but
also
you
know,
the
cost
of
a
used
electric
vehicle
is
is
very
affordable.
J
N
So
it
we
do
think
it
prevents
an
opera.
It
presents
an
opportunity
for
our
lower
income
community,
to
you
know,
do
a
one-time
purchase
of
an
affordable
used
vehicle
and
then
not
really
have
significant
operational
costs.
T
Thank
you.
I
I
appreciate
that
I'm
just
thinking
about
how
our
how
to
bring
our
all
of
our
families
how
to
move
them
forward,
and
I
I
appreciate
that
under
climate
smart,
you
have
other
features
to
help
convert.
Maybe
some
appliances-
and
I
know,
sooner
or
later
I
think
we're
gonna-
have
some
the
water
heaters
electrified
and
then
that'll
target
the
rest
of
us
right.
We're
not
gonna
live
in
these
new
developments
downtown,
or
at
least
I
won't.
T
But
I'll
do
my
part.
Well,
I
would
disqualify
myself
from
living
in
district
8,
but
but
but
I
think
it's
it's
everybody
has
to
do
their
parts
right.
Everybody
has
to
do
their
part
and
I'm
excited
about
this.
T
These
reach
codes
for
new
development,
but
I
I
think
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
residents
that
can
do
their
part
and
I
think
collectively
we
we're
all
gonna
pull
together,
but
I
know,
that's
that's
part
a
little
bit
part
of
like
what
clean
energy
is
doing
in
their
department
right
and
we'll
be
patient
with
that,
because
I
know
they're
they're
on
their
seventh
month
of
operations,
but
but
we're
excited
we're
ready
for
this.
Those
are
my
questions.
Chair.
C
Glad
to
see
that
the
city
is
moving
this
direction,
and
you
know
I'm
also
getting.
G
Kind
of
feedback
from
from
both
sides
from
you
know
the
speakers
here,
of
course,
who
I
get
all
your
emails
and
then,
of
course,
some
of
the.
C
It
and
I'm
sure,
we'll
you.
L
F
Yeah,
thank
you
very
much
and
thank
you
staff
for
your
hard
work.
I
know
there's
been
a
lot,
that's
gone
into
this
and
certainly
we're
getting
a
lot
of
feedback
here
as
we
get
to
the
to
the
final
vote
next
week,
but
I
really
want
to
appreciate
the
the
work
gone
into
this.
F
I
too
have
you
know,
heard
from
another
committee
in
regards
to
input
and
seeing
how
this
is
moving,
and
so
I
just
interested
in
a
couple
things
I
wanted
to
see-
and
you
know
I
you
know,
the
initial
reaction
is
something
like
the
alternative
one
right,
but
then
right,
diving,
a
little
deeper
and
then
understanding
where
and
how
that
could
affect
things.
You
know
I
I
heard
from
a
comment
today:
individuals
saying
hey
we're
out
there
building
all
electric
buildings.
F
I
know
that
adobe
right
made
a
big
splash
in
an
announcement
with
their
their
tower,
four
being
all
electric,
so
it's
happening
right
so
and
and
what
I
get
from
this
alternative
and
why
it
seems
like
this
may
not
be
the
right
time
to
do
that.
I'm
kind
of
curious
when,
based
on
your
expertise,
when
do
you
feel,
would
be
the
right
time,
if
not,
if
not
now,.
O
Yeah
so
that
I
think
we
left
gas
on
the
table
here,
primarily
for
one
setting,
which
is
a
high-rise
residential
that
has
a
central
water
heating
system.
Gas
is
perhaps
more
economical
right
now
for
that
that
purpose.
Although
we
have
heard
from
multiple
stakeholders
that
the
heat
pump
water
heater
systems
of
that
scale
are
now
starting
to
emerge,
it
seemed
like
we
were
a
little
bit
on
a
bubble
right
now
in
time.
O
The
20
23
2020
2020.,
no,
the
the
next
code,
would
go
into
effect
after
this
one
would
go
into
effect
january.
1St
2023,
23.
yeah.
F
Okay,
well
that's
at
least
comforting
to
hear
that,
because
that's
right,
I'm
sensing
we've
got.
We've
had
filament
out
there
happening
right
now
and
I
do
think
there
could
be
some.
F
You
know
some
alternatives
if
you're
talking
about
specifically
one
type
of
development
like
a
high-rise
which,
unfortunately,
we
recognize
is
uniquely
challenging
in
our
city
when
we
talk
about
where
most
of
those
high
rises
are
happening
which
well
at
the
moment,
all
of
them
until
we
can
maybe
get
something
in
santana
row,
but
at
the
moment,
all
downtown
with
a
high
water
table
and
a
ceiling
a
low
ceiling
because
of
our
flight
path
and
so
unique
challenges
that
we
may
have
here
that
other
big
cities
don't
have-
and
I
recognize
that,
but
at
the
same
time
then
looking
at
other
types
of
development
like
single-family
homes
and
something
that
we
we
recognize
right.
F
We
that's
not
the
direction
of
our
city
anymore,
to
be
building
single-family
homes.
It
could
be
a
place
where
we
achieve
all-electric
right.
We
put
those
sort
of
requirements
in
place
and
I'm
in
conversations
with
the
mayor.
I
know
that
he's
also
very
interested
in
some
of
these.
You
know,
directions
and
we'll
have
that
opportunity
next
week.
I
think
to
to
put
forth
some
maybe
further,
reaching
reach
codes
in
some
of
that
context,
and
so
I
I
you
know,
that's
where
I'm
interested
as
well.
F
I
did
have
a
question
in
regards
to
the
affordable
housing
sort
of
component
and
I'm
torn
here,
because
I
I
hear
well
for
one
I
think,
with
what
you're
recommending
with
some
of
that
upfront
cost
much
cheaper
right
to
at
least
get
it
ready,
ev
ready,
rather
than
do
that
in
the
future,
and
where
I
have
an
issue
is
that
if
we
assume
somehow
that
we
should
exempt
the
the
low-income
housing
one,
I
guess
up
front
to
save
the
money.
F
But
two
where
I'm
thinking
then
is
well,
then
they're
never
going
to
get
there
if
we
don't
make
them
ev
ready.
So
then
we're
saying
for
low-income
housing
and
when
we
build
these
new
housings
developments
right.
These
are
50
to
100
year
type,
developments,
at
least
what
we're
hoping
out
of
right.
So
we're
saying
that
the
individuals
in
these
communities,
where,
where
we're
building
the
low-income
housing
then
are
really
never
going
to
have
that
opportunity
to
to
switch
over
and
transition
over.
F
F
Because
I
know
you
were
speaking
about
this
and
a
couple
individuals
spoke
in
regards
to
exemptions
for
the
low
income
and
permanent
supportive
housing
and
developments
that
we
know
we
need
so
much
right,
and
so
I
kind
of
wanted
to
hear
your
thoughts
in
in
that
regards
that
you
know,
are
we
sort
of
then
losing
an
opportunity
if
we
exempt
the
low-income
housing
and
then
they
end
up
going
with
you
know
gas
or
maybe
they're,
not
going
ev
ready.
F
So
I
wanted
to
see
your
thoughts
on
that
and
are
you
supporting
sort
of
at
least
the
staff
recommendation
on
ev
ready,
which
would
be?
You
know
at
least
a
little
bit
more
slight
increase
up
front,
or
are
you
saying
from
sv
at
home's
perspective?
It's
completely
exempt
the
low-income
housing
because
we
don't
want
any
dollar
amount
of
added
cost
up
front.
S
Right
excellent
question
counselor,
so
we
actually
had
the
opportunity
to
talk
with
staff
last
friday,
and
so
they
actually
made
this
exact
mention
and
they
did
recognize
this
equity
issue
and
hasn't
given
the
opportunity
of
folks
in
different
categories,
to
look
into
possibly
electric
vehicles
one
day
and
they
started
talking
about
the
used
ev
market
should
be
coming
up
soon.
As
you
know,
electric
vehicles
started
getting
older
and
began
to
be
resold.
S
In
my
comments,
I
was
mentioning
deeper
levels
of
affordability,
specifically
we're
talking
permanent
supportive
housing
and
we're
talking,
folks,
that
are
you
know,
formerly,
homeless,
couchsurfing
in
and
out
of
those
situations
that
are
more
likely
utilizing
mass
transit
or
other
forms
of
transportation,
and
we
think
those
are
prime
opportunities
to
have
those
sort
of
exemptions,
because
in
general
they're
not
looking
to
be
utilizing
personal
vehicles.
So
I
think
in
those
kind
of
50
60
ami,
we
are
supportive
of
having
still
ev
requirements
so
that
they
could
look
into
that
one
day.
F
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
that.
That's
that's
it!
Okay
thanks!
So
I
do
think
that
this
really
does
play
into
the
sort
of
the
required
parking
spaces
right
and
what
type
of
development
we're
talking
about,
and
I
think
it
can
be
solved
at
that
level
versus
here,
because
I'd
rather
have
a
stronger
reach
code
and
then
say
for
permanent,
supportive
housing
developments
right.
F
We
we
don't,
we
don't
impose
a
lot
of
parking
because
for
one
we
shouldn't
be
and
we're
not
today,
right,
unfortunately,
the
very
first
permanent,
supportive
housing's,
the
the
second
street
studios
right,
has
way
too
much
parking
and
was
built.
That
way
and
already
is,
is
right,
being
determined.
F
I
think
it's
somewhere,
like
60
to
80
of
it,
is
not
being
used,
and
so
and-
and
that's
where
I
think
we
need
to
solve
this
issue-
is-
is
really
lowering
the
threshold,
because
I
would
agree
that
a
number
we
already
know
that
a
number
of
these
individuals
are
not
driving
today
and
that
housing
is
catering
to
to
to
that
individual
and
as
well
we're
attempting
to
build
a
lot
of
these
in
and
around
transit
and
then
provide
transit
passes
as
well
for
these
individuals.
F
So
I
really
would
like
to
solve
that
there
right
and
then
it's
not
it's
not
an
issue.
If
you
you
have,
you
know
a
large
development,
you
only
have
20
parking
spaces
right
then
it's
not
so
much
of
a
big
cost
burden
up
front
and
and
for
those
parking
spaces.
What
we
do
see
for
the
individuals
that
may
drive
or
at
times
it's
the
staff
that
are
there
right,
some
staff
parking
spaces.
F
It
would
be
great
if
you
had
a
staff
coming
and
there
was
an
ev
charging
station
and
they
charge
it
at
work
during
the
day
right
versus
the
whole
plug-in
at
home
and
that
issue,
and
so
but
at
the
same
time
I
do
understand
that
right
that
maybe
that
narrow
group
of
the
permanent
supportive
housing-
I
I
definitely
don't
want
to
personally
exempt
out
just
all
affordable
housing.
F
I
would
rather
have
an
equitable
playing
field
and
then
find
a
way
to
the
city
to
be
able
to
incentivize
or
reimburse
potentially
some
of
these
affordable
housing
developments.
If
we're
gonna
have
a
higher
reach
code
and
ask
for
at
least
ev
ready
on
on
these
these
parking
spaces.
F
So
I
think
I'll
rest
there
for
my
comments
for
for
today,
I
will
mention,
because
dave
paulson
did
not
get
to
finish,
but
he
did
hand
out
our
the
little
flyer
here,
but
friday
september,
20th
from
4
to
5
p.m.
F
Right
out
front
of
city
hall
here,
there'll
be
youth
coming
to
host
silicon
valley,
youth,
climate
action
rally
and
my
office
is
proudly
helping
to
sponsor
the
use
of
the
the
city
hall
space
and
so,
unfortunately,
a
couple
of
us,
including
councilmember
davis,
and
I
will
potentially
be
sitting
in
here
for
a
vta
meeting
while
that's
going
on.
But
we
invite
others
to
to
join
so.
There's
your
plug
dave.
M
Yes,
I
actually
wanted
to
talk
about
the
same
thing,
which
is
affordable,
housing
and
permanent,
supportive
housing,
so
the
second,
the
city's
second
permanent
support
of
housing
development
will
go
on
center
road
in
district.
Seven,
it's
actually
quite
large,
and
it
is
sort
of
the
model
that
it's
built
on
is
heavy
partnership
and
case
management,
non-profit
partners
coming
in.
M
M
I
think
it
does
make
sense.
Even
you
know
in
the
ones
where
they're
sort
of
formerly
homeless,
I'm
thinking
of
like
markham
plaza,
which
isn't
technically
it
wasn't
built
as
permanent
supportive
housing,
but
it
essentially
is
permanent,
supportive
housing,
again
same
thing,
staff,
heavy,
a
lot
of
organizations
coming
in
and
out
that
could
utilize
that
parking
and
for
residential,
affordable
housing.
M
M
You
know
at
five
percent
interest
rate,
it
would
be
377
dollar
a
month,
car
payment
which
isn't
chump
change,
especially
if
you're
low
income.
So
it's
not
all
that
super
affordable
but
they're,
starting
to
be
a
growing
secondhand
market
nowadays.
M
So,
while
this
isn't
a
right
now
thing,
this
is
definitely
more
of
a
short-term
reality
than
it
is
a
long-term
reality.
So,
with
that,
all
oh
wait:
you're
going
to
speak
all
right,
you
speak
and
you
can
make
the
motion.
A
Thank
you.
First
of
all,
I
want
to
thank
staff
for
not
only
the
presentation,
but
all
the
work
and
outreach
that
you've
done
on
this
and
going
through
multiple
drafts
and
multiple
committees.
I
really
appreciate
it.
It's
a
big
deal,
so
it
was
required.
It
was
necessary
to
do
it
to
do
all
this,
and
I
appreciate
all
that
work.
I'm
trying
to
get
thanks.
Thank
you.
A
I
just
want
to
understand
that
the
timing,
so
the
reach
code
goes
into
place
january,
1st
2020.
This
is
my
first
go
around
with
new
codes.
What
does
that
mean
which
projects
are
affected?
How
far
along
in
the
pipeline,
are
the
projects
impacted
with
a
new
code?
On
january
1st.
P
Thanks
for
the
question,
so
basically
it's
based
on
building
applications
submitted
to
building
division,
so
the
code
will
be
effective.
All
california
codes,
including
rich
codes,
will
be
effective.
On
january
1st
2020.,
therefore,
building
submittal
submitted
on
january
1st,
must
comply
with
this
new
ordinance.
A
Okay,
so
if
they're
already
just
want
to
clarify
so
if
they're
already
in
the
pipeline
they've
gone
through
their
application,
but
they
they
haven't,
pulled
a
permit.
Yet.
P
P
A
two
different
types
of
application
in
order
to
comply
with
or
submit
prior
to
going
this
new
code
to
be
effective,
they
must
submit
building
permit
application
to
building
division
on
last
day
will
be
december
31st
of
2019.
Then
they
could
stay
with
current
code,
but
if
they
submit
day
after
which
is
january,
1st
2020,
they
must
comply
with
a
all
adopted
ordinance,
including
rich
code.
P
Very
helpful
and
another
just
for
your
information
that
we
are
trying
to
go
with
this
rich
code
at
this
time
is
because
the
california
energy
commission
requires
to
review
cost
effectiveness
study.
That's
that
we
submitted
the
numbers
and
also
they
need
to
have
a
60-day
comment
period
for
public
to
make
comments
on.
Therefore,
this
timing
is
somewhat
critical
that
we
have
to
submit
to
california
energy
commission
sometime
next
week.
Also.
P
A
G
P
For
no
so
it
will
be
adopted.
The
comment
will
be
addressed
by
the
california
energy
commission
and
if
there
are
some
significant
comments
that
would
affect
the
adoption
for
city
of
san
jose.
Presumably
they
will
contact
the
city
and
go
from
there,
but
I
haven't
heard
anything
like
that
in
previous
adaptation.
O
And
I
would
just
add
that
that
what
we're
putting
forward
is
based
on
the
state's
own
cost
effectiveness
guidelines.
So
there
should
be
no
issue
that
in
that
sense,.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
got
that
I'm
a
little
bit
confused
about
a
couple
of
things
and
that's
so
I'm
gonna
ask
some
clarifying
questions.
A
So
I've
heard
the
cost
of
an
all-electric
building
is
lower.
It
sounds
like
which
I've
worked
out
now
through.
However
many
hours
we've
been
doing,
this,
the
the
issue
is
really
for
the
builders
that
want
to
continue
to
do
the
gas.
So
it's
running
the
gas
line.
That's
the
most
expensive
thing
is
that
right,
yes,
yeah
yeah,
so
all
electric
is
is
the
cheapest
and
they
know
that
right
now,
right.
O
Yeah
we're
seeing
examples,
as
you
heard.
Some
of
the
speakers
allude
to
we're,
seeing
that
without
a
code
driver
in
terms
of
the
development
across
the
street,
they
they
do
have
a
gas
central
boiler
system,
but
they've
chosen
voluntarily
to
electrify
the
everything
else
in
the
and
the
residential
units.
There.
O
We're
hearing
mostly
for
to
sell
a
quote-unquote
high-end
unit
gas
range,
helps.
Do
that
we're
certainly
dealing
with
some
awareness
issues
in
terms
of
where
electric
cooking
is
today.
It's
not
mom
and
dad's
old
orange
coil
that
takes
forever
to
heat
up
and
I'm
sitting
next
to
a
proud
induction,
stove
owner
who
can
boil
water
90
seconds.
O
So
it's
kind
of
getting
that
out
there.
We
we
have
even
an
induction,
stove
checkout
program
through
the
department
to
help
people
take
a
unit
home,
try
it
out
and
see
how
quick
it
is
we'll
get
you
signed
up.
A
I
want
to
get
signed
up.
Yes,
I
did
not
know
about
this.
We've
actually
been
talking
about
it
because
of
the
reach
code.
We've
been
talking
about
it
in
the
office,
so
I
think
it's
a
really
good
addition
to
something
to
how
we
can
promote
the
good
life.
2.0
is
getting
more
and
more
education
out
about
this,
we'll
get
we'll.
A
O
P
If
I
may,
council,
member
so
current
construction
trend
for,
for
example,
like
high-rise
buildings,
all
inside
the
unit,
is
all
electric
electric
cooling,
heating,
stove
and
dryer
and
so
on.
But
I
think
one
item
is
like
utilizing
central
boiler
or
even
boiler
for
each
floor
or
multiple
floors.
The
technology
is
not
quite
there
yet
to
make
it
more
economical,
so
natural
gas
will
be
most
efficient
component
at
this
time.
So
there
is
some
that
hinderance
from
developers
point
of
view
that
when
they
do
a
high
rise
they
like
to
have
that
option.
P
That's
why
we
have
the
mixed
fuel
option,
making
a
building
more
efficient,
some
of
like
a
trade-offs,
for
example.
Another
example
would
be
for
single-family
homes
is
this?
Water
heater
is
also
predominant
about
10
to
20
percent.
We
are
seeing
heat
pump
water
heater,
which
is
electricity,
but
80
is
still
people
like
to
use
water
heater.
Maybe
it's
more
economical
at
this
point,
but
as
we
move
forward,
we'll
see
a
lot
more
consumable
type
of
heat
pump.
Water
heater,
which
will
be
more
economical
as
we
go
forward,
is.
P
O
There
there
are
both
versions
there,
electric
and
gas,
tankless
versions,
the
heat
pump.
Water
heater
looks
very
much
like
your
gas
water
heater.
Does
it's
a
vertical
cylindrical
tank
instead
of
a
gas
flame,
though
it
uses
ambient
air
temperature
in
the
garage
typically
to
to
don't
ask
me
how
it
works,
but
it
it's
supposed
to
be
very
efficient
and
and
that
it's
I've
heard
it
described
as
the
same
way.
A
The
can
you
also
revisit
the
eight
amps
per
space
issue.
We've
gotten
multiple
letters
about
about
that
being
problematic
and
you
had
started
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
it
and,
frankly,
I'm
going
to
need
a
little
more
sure.
O
So,
typically,
I
think
what
we
have
in
there
for
a
defined
ev
ready
space
right
now
is
a
as
a
32
amp
circuit,
and
that
would
be
similar
to
what
I
have
in
my
garage
that
I
can
plug
a
level
two
charger
into
and
charge
my
car
in
a
certain
amount
of
time.
Eight
amps.
That
requirement
is
basically
a
way
of
increasing
the
electric
service
at
the
development
without
requiring
enough
electric
electric
service
for
all
those
potentially
ev-ready
stalls
to
power
the
the
charging
unit
at
that
level
right
away.
O
So
it
gets
you
part
of
the
way
there
to
when
you,
when
you
start
to
have
that
demand
in
a
multi-family
complex,
perhaps
for
more
charging,
the
eight
amps
would
be
there
it
would.
It
would
provide
a
start
to
getting
multiple
vehicles
charged.
You
you'd
use
a
demand,
a
load
management
system
that
again
would
prioritize
cars
based
on
how
low
their
charge
is.
O
If
you
started
to
have
a
lot
more
demand
on
that
system,
you
would
probably
need
to
upgrade
your
electric
service
at
that
point,
but
we're
we're
thinking,
that's
less
of
a
lift
from
where
we
get
you
to
than.
If
you
were
starting
from
scratch.
O
Mean
level
one
would
basically
be
an
extension
cord.
We
would
plug
into
a
regular
socket
here
and
and
run
that
to
a
car
charger
unit.
It
would
take
quite
some
time
I
think,
sean
you
can
probably
hit
the
the
time
requirements.
S
Level
two
is
based
on
240
volt.
Instead
of
the
110,
like
you
have
in
your
standard
outlet.
240
is
what
your
stove
uses
it's,
what
electric
water
heaters
use
other
large
loads
and
that
there
are
multiple
amperage
available
for
that,
but
for
the
standard
level,
2
charger
you're
talking
about
going
from
zero
to
one
hundred
percent
in
four
to
eight
hours,
depending
on
the
range
of
the
battery
and
the
charger,
that's
being
utilized.
S
So
and
again,
that's
zero
to
one
hundred
very
few
people.
Let
their
batteries
get
that
low.
A
S
S
A
J
Sure
I'm
laurie
mitchell,
I'm
the
director
of
community
energy
and
I'd,
be
happy
to
answer
that.
So
you
know,
essentially
that's
going
to
be
site
specific
for
each
development
so
currently
on
the
distribution
system.
Pg
e
has
two
electric
service
rules
that
guide
that
it's
electric
service,
rule,
15
and
16,
and
so,
if
there's
a
new
service
connection,
that's
needed
by
a
developer.
Typically,
the
developer.
The
owner
pays
for
that.
A
J
J
So
I
oh,
but
you
pull
in,
but
just
my
two
cents,
I
I
think
it's
site
specific.
I
also
think
it's
important
to
point
out
that
these
reach
codes
also
adopt
you
know
the
title
24
building
standards,
and
so
it
also
assumes
that
these
buildings
are
much
more
efficient.
So
I
wouldn't
expect
that
we're
necessarily
necessarily
means
all
of
pg
e's
distribution
infrastructure
needs
to
be
upgraded.
I
don't
I
don't
expect
that
would
be
the
result
of
this.
J
For
example,
the
heat
pumps,
that's
a
very
efficient
technology
that
warm
climates
can
take
advantage
of,
and
that
is
a
way
that
these
buildings
can
reduce
both
their
water
heating
and
also
their
cooling
and
space
heating
needs,
and
so
so
yes,
I
I
wouldn't
expect,
but
that
being
said,
I
think
some
buildings
might
need
infrastructure
upgrades,
and
so
that
would
be
guided
by
roll
15
and
16.
J
J
Yeah,
so
first,
what
pg
e
does
they
get?
The
application
and
they'll
do
an
engineering
study
and
they
will
determine
two
things
so
one
they'll
determine
if
there's
a
new
service
connection.
So
that's
from
wherever
the
distribution
is
usually
it's
an
overhead
line.
It
might
be
an
undergrad
underground
line
that
service
connection
to
the
distribution
wires
is
typically
borne
by
the
owner.
J
A
Okay,
thank
you
appreciate
it,
and
I
don't
know
this
might
be
a
question
for
you
carrie.
I
think
that's
it
lori.
What
is
our
climate
smart
goal
for
evs.
H
N
A
Okay,
I
thank
you.
A
I
agree
with
council
members
that
if
we,
if
we
have
these
goals,
we
have
to
make
sure
the
infrastructure
is
going
to
be
in
place
because
what
gets
built
now
or
what
what
gets
built
in
the
next
five
years,
we
hope
is
going
to
be
around
by
the
time
we
by
the
time
we
have
these
these
goals
to
meet
right,
and
so
I
I
was
really
disappointed
honestly
when,
when
we
got
to
the
the
city
comparison-
and
I
can't
remember
which
slide
that
is
on
about
building
electrification-
I
think
it's
slide.
A
O
Yeah,
so
berkeley
and
some
of
the
east
b
cities
have
done
the
natural
gas
ban.
I
I
don't
totally
understand
their
process
because
they
still
are
when
we
talked
to
them
last
week,
we're
still
in
the
process
of
developing
a
reach
code
itself,
so
the
gas
ban
was
sort
of
a
I
think,
limited
in
scope
to
low
rise
residential.
O
If
I'm
not
mistaken,
and
and
then
they
need
to
go,
do
a
reach
code
for
the
remaining
the
remainder
of
their
building
stock.
Some
of
the
cities
you
see
up
there
are
using
the
what's
kind
of
been
called
the
silicon
valley,
clean
energy
model
code
as
what
they're
considering
but
they
silicon
valley.
Clean
energy
is
not
the
the
entity
that
will
decide
that
all
those
cities
have
to
go
back
to
their
individual
councils
and
adopt
something.
O
So
you
could
see
movement
there
in
terms
of
what
they
bring
or
or
they
could
stick
with
that.
So.
A
O
Talking
about
menlo
park
did
the
the
gas
exception
for
stoves
and
fireplaces.
The
other
ones
would
have
the
higher
compliance
margins
that
you've
heard
talked
about
and
a
higher
ev
requirement.
O
N
So,
as
ken
mentioned,
it's
not
necessarily
talking
about
ev
and
all
the
other
components
and-
and
you
know,
berkeley's
still
looking
to
to
develop
and
get
a
reach
code
approved,
and
then
the
silicon
valley
model
ordinance
hasn't
been
adopted
by
anyone
else.
Yet
so
so
I
mean
what
we
were
trying
to
depict
here
was
just
the
building
component,
not
where
all
reach
codes
are.
O
And
I
think
it's
spelled
out
a
little
bit
more
in
attachment
a
to
the
staff
report.
Okay,
you
can
get
a
little
bit
better
feel
for
where
cities
are
at.
Some
of
them
are
behind
us.
Timing,
wise
and
their
reach
codes
won't
go
into
effect
until
perhaps
march
of
next
year.
N
Let's
see-
and
I
would
also
add
some
of
those
cities
might
not
have
some
of
the
high-rise
concerns
that
that
we
have
as
well
sure.
In
fact.
A
O
We
we
looked
at
that
as
a
cost
concern,
but
then,
when
we
we
compromised
a
little
bit
on
the
the
compliance
margins,
we
wanted
to
add
that
back
in
to
kind
of
strengthen
that
electrification
signal
in
a
different
way.
So
the
thinking
there
was,
if
you're,
going
to
be
required
to
put
in
all
those
those
specialized
outlets
for
electric
water,
heating,
electric
stove
and
so
forth.
O
N
A
Right
and
it's
much
much
easier
to
do
it
when
you
have
new
build,
I
completely
agree
with
that.
The
only
other
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
completely
understand
the
whole.
I
think
it
was
back
a
couple
more
slides
to
slide
18.
A
P
Sean
you
could
add
on
to
this,
but
basically
state
do
not
have
a
study
done
for
high-rise
buildings.
At
this
point,
okay,.
A
Okay,
did
they
do
a
and
I'm
sorry,
if
I
missed
this
somewhere,
did
they
do
a
kind
of
a
break-even
cost
like
how
much
more
gas
would
have
to
go
up
to
make
it
to
make
it
break
even
over
the
life
cycle?.
A
O
Sure
this
this
table
has
has
proved
challenging
the
so
for
the
all
electric
building.
There
there's
a
effectively
no
reach
code.
For
that
I
mean
you're,
just
gonna
meet
base
code
and
that
that's
why
those
numbers
are
showed
as
zero,
because
you
don't
have
any
added
cost
for
code.
O
Compliance
for
the
mixed
fuel,
though
we
have
those
compliance
margins
that
are
in
there
and
in
order
to
meet
those
you're
going
to
have
to
go
above
code
and
and
therefore
do
add
more
efficiencies,
for
example,
than
what
the
state
requires
in
order
to
meet
our
reach
requirements,
and
that
adds
the
cost
that
you
see
there.
N
P
A
Okay,
so
what
that
practically
means
just
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
completely
understand
this
mixed
fuel
option
and
how
a
builder
might
decide
between
building
an
all-electric
or
a
mixed
fuel.
So
if
they
decide
to
run
gas
to
the
stove,
for
example,
or
run
gas
to
the
boiler,
as
you
were
talking
about,
that
means
they
have
to
have
more
energy
efficient
appliances
in
the
units
to
make
up
for
that.
So
it
doesn't
get
all
the
way
to
our
zero
net
energy
buildings
right.
O
Right
so
we're
we're
saying
that
if
you
do
all
electric
you're
gonna
get
us
get
the
city
ghg
savings
of
x.
If
you,
if
you
keep
fossil
fuel
in
the
building,
then
you're
gonna
have
to
give
us
those
savings
in
a
different
way
and
that
could
be
window
glazing
window
size
all
those
different
efficiencies.
That
would
increase
efficiency
for
that
setting
in
order
to
get
to
our
end
goal,
which
is
ghg
reduction.
A
Okay,
and
so
as
it
stands
right
now
for
the
the
proposed
mixed
fuel
and
our
efficiency
requirements,
do
we
do
we
actually
get
to
the
same
ghd
reduction
as
all
electric?
I?
What
we
tried
to
do
was
make
these
ghg
ghg
emission
neutral
right.
S
No
they're,
not
so
the
mixed
fuel
building
will
still
have
more
greenhouse
gas
emissions
than
an
all-electric
building,
and
that's
due
primarily
to
the
fact
that
by
2021,
san
jose's
grid
is
going
to
be
completely
carbon
free.
But
these
mixed
fuel
buildings,
while
their
electricity
will
be
carbon
free.
The
gas
that
they
consume
will
still
be.
A
A
Thank
you.
I
look
forward
to
revisiting
this
issue
again
next
week,
as
I'm
sure
you
all
do
and
I'm
sure
everyone
in
the
audience
will
also
be
there,
and
so
I
will.
I
will
entertain
a
motion
and
if
there
is
any
additional
direction
for
staff,
please
feel
free.
T
Will
you
add
the
revisiting
with
the
the
group
and
the
stakeholders
who
again.
A
B
Okay,
thank
you.
Okay,
sorry,
all
right
good,
so
basically,
my
open
forum
in
regards
to
the
electric
grid,
just
to
talk
about
that
one
last
time
is
that
we
do
need
to
get
out
of
our
cars
and
that
in
the
true
requirements
of
the
paris
climate
accord,
to
bring
us
to
1.5,
we
have
to
reduce
50
percent
in
the
next
10
years.
B
B
No
job
jobs
doesn't
mean,
there's
no
work,
lots
of
work,
but
no
jobs
and
no
money.
So
that's
what
50
looks
like,
and
so
we
have
to
rethink
about
the
electrification
of
our
car
infrastructure
because
of
all
the
problems
we
have
with
the
cars
killing
us
maiming
us
as
well
as
the
we
do
not
have
that
infrastructure
to
go
that
way.
We
need
to
go
towards
a
bicycle
infrastructure
and
mass
transit.
B
That
is
what
is
sustainable,
and
then
the
issue
that
I
want
to
talk
about
is
this
issue
of
our
building
code
and
we,
our
neighborhood,
is
requiring
an
agenda
item
of
the
general
plan
change
in
our
neighborhood
in
our
community,
and
you
all
talk
about
it
very
well
that
you
have
this
general
plan
amendment
to
keep
industrial
industrial
well.
This
is
really
affecting
our
neighborhood
as
the
west
side
of
stockton.
That
originally
was
to
go
residential.
You
are
changing
the
general
plan
and
have
said
that
it
needs
to
go
industrial.
B
We
got
no
notification
of
that.
We
didn't
get
a
card
from
you,
so
the
process
of
changing
the
general
plan
has
destroyed
our
neighborhood
and
their
plan
is
to
put
a
five-story
hotel
in
our
community
under
climate
emergency
and
under
a
housing
crisis.
We
do
not
need
a
five-story
hotel
at
the
property
line
on
stockton
avenue
in
chile,
so
we're
demanding
nikita.
K
Sinha
afternoon,
council
members,
my
name
is
nikita
sinha,
I'm
newly
appointed
as
the
walk
san
jose
program
manager
with
california
walks,
mostly
just
wanted
to
introduce
myself
say,
I'm
looking
forward
to
meeting
all
of
you
and
working
with
you
on
vision,
zero,
and
I
also
wanted
to
take
a
moment
to
acknowledge
the
string
of
hit
and
run
fatalities.
K
We
saw
in
late
august
early
september,
fernand
fernando
alvarez
was
killed
in
district
three,
while
walking
at
fourth
in
san
fernando
on
august
22nd,
jesus
orozco
plancarte
was
killed
in
district
five,
while
biking
at
story
in
jackson
on
august
29th
and
an
unnamed
victim
was
killed
in
district
seven,
while
walking
at
story
in
felipe
on
september.
Third,
these
desks
are
tragic
and
unacceptable
and
indicate
that
we
need
to
double
down
on
vision,
zero
and
really
start
dedicating
our
time
and
our
resources
to
making
sure
that
our
straights
are
safe
for
everybody.
K
In
order
for
san
jose
to
to
become
you
know
a
safe
and
livable
city.
So
I'm
looking
forward
to
to
meeting
all
of
you
and
working
with
this,
and
I
and
I
hope,
you'll
join
me
on
november
17th
on
world
day
of
remembrance,
which
is
a
day
to
honor
and
remember
victims
who
are
lost
while,
while
walking
and
biking
and
I'll
send
an
email
out
with
follow-up
information,
so
that
you'll
all
have
that
and
I'll
have
to
just
write
it
down
right
now.
Thank.