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From YouTube: MAY 2, 2022 | Transportation & Environment Committee
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City of San José, California
Transportation & Environment Committee of May 2, 2022.
Pre-meeting citizen input on Agenda via eComment at https://sanjose.granicusideas.com/meetings.
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Public
speakers
will
not
engage
in
conversations
with
the
chair
or
specific
council
members
or
staff.
All
members
of
the
committee
staff
and
the
public
are
expected
to
refrain
from
abusive
language
failure
to
comply
with
this
code
of
conduct
that
will
disturb
just
disrupt
or
impede.
The
orderly
conduct
of
this
meeting
will
result
in
removal
from
this
meeting
all
right
now
we
will
have
the
transportation
and
environment
committee
come
to
order.
Can
the
clerk
please
call
the
role
esparza.
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Claire
hi
blair,
beekman
here
happy
may
to
everyone
I
wanted
to
bring
up.
You
have
a
tow
truck
item.
That
is
a
part
of
the
consent
calendar
here.
I
just
wanted
to
remind
that.
It's
nice,
it's
a
nice
reminder
that
the
people
who
make
the
committee
agenda
items
each
week.
They
do
a
pretty
interesting
job
of
items
to
place
on
the
agendas
and-
and
this
is
one
of
them
to
me.
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Is
it
related
to
item
number
three,
because
if
it
is,
I
can
just
make
a
quick
statement
that
good
luck
in
your
efforts
to
better
talk
about
sequa
and
what
I
think
is
a
real
need
that,
as
as
city
government
is
developing
some
really
interesting
ways,
I
can
be
interesting
to
develop
the
future
of
sequa
that
don't
forget
to
want
to
involve
you
know
everyday
corporate
entities
and
and
and
private
private
entities
in
this
process.
Don't
don't
don't
be?
What's
the
word
overly
government
macho
about
it?
E
I
guess
is
how
to
say
it.
You
don't
have
all
the
answers.
We're
learning
new
things
now,
just
a
reminder
to
be
open
to
what
private
entities
can
offer.
What
really
needs
to
be
the
future
of
environmental
concerns
and
how
do
we?
How
do
we
review
our
environmental
concerns
six
months
into
a
project
or
after
the
project
is
done?
I
think
to
have
a
review
process
that
really
reviews.
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G
Okay,
thank
you,
council
member.
Oh,
this
is
amit
mitsu,
the
deputy
director
of
wastewater
management,
regional
wastewater
facility
with
me,
I
have
today
jennifer
pinakola
brown,
who's,
the
division
manager
for
compliance,
and
then
I
have
jason
nelton
who's,
the
principal
engineer
for
air
compliance
and
eric
dunleavy,
which
is
for
water
compliance,
so
staff
will
be
taking
some
as
a
presentation
for
you
with
jennifer
taking
the
lead.
With
that
I
hand
over
to
jennifer.
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This
is
our
annual
update
to
the
committee
to
inform
about
regulatory
activities
and
changes
that
may
affect
the
regional
wastewater
facility,
we'll
also
share
activities
that
we
engage
in
to
meet
compliance
and
to
prepare
for
regulations
which,
in
the
end,
results
enhanced
benefits
to
the
environment
and
habitats.
Through
our
stewardship,
I'm
joined
by
jason
nettleton
our
principal
engineer
over
air
compliance
and
eric
dunleavy
environmental
services
program
manager
over
wastewater
compliance
at
the
rwf.
H
H
It
covers
about
half
of
santa
clara
county
where
it
provides
service
non-stop,
it's
subject
to
many
regulations
and
holds
multiple
permits
to
ensure
compliance
and
to
be
proactive.
We
remain
vigilant
and
actively
engaged
in
regional
coalitions
to
track
any
upcoming
legislation
or
regulations
that
could
impact
operations,
and
this
is
all
an
aim
of
getting
ahead
of
what
we
may
be
facing,
because
it
allows
us
to
prepare,
with
science-based
evaluations,
used
to
better
understand
the
impacts
and
advocate
on
the
tributary
agencies,
our
customers
and
our
behalf
for
sensible
regulations.
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We
also
take
pending
regulations
into
consideration,
as
projects
are
designed
as
part
of
the
capital
improvement
program
or
regular
operations
and
maintenance
at
the
rwf.
We
strive
to
maintain
productive
and
positive
relationships
with
our
regulators
and
seek
to
build
more
collaboration
where
needed,
to
address
any
caps.
Next,
we'll
discuss
permits
and
other
regulatory
activity
and
we're
going
to
start
with
the
air
quality
program.
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D
Pollution
emissions
are
regulated
by
the
air
quality
management
district
or
just
air
district.
Under
the
federal
title,
5
operating
permit
and
the
local
permit
to
operate
facility
has
a
title,
5
or
major
source
permit,
primarily
due
to
emissions
from
our
on-site
co-generation
facility
that
provides
power
for
wastewater
treatment
operations.
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D
Regulation
2-5
was
adopted
in
2021
with
the
intent
of
reducing
emissions
in
communities
that
are
currently
disproportionately
affected
by
air
pollution.
Regulation
1118
is
a
similar
focus
and
is
in
just
the
early
stages
of
development
regulation.
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4
for
greenhouse
gases
has
been
scheduled
for
development
for
more
than
two
years,
but
the
process
has
been
on
hold
due
to
lack
of
resources
at
the
air
district
next
slide.
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So
these
resource
constraints
have
caused
delays
in
some
of
their
other
actions,
most
notably
reviews
of
source
tests
and
permit
applications.
So
these
delays
have
the
potential
to
affect
facility
capital
projects,
so
the
city
staff
have
been
increasing
outreach
efforts
to
the
air
district
to
reduce
the
delays
and
mitigate
any
of
their
effects.
D
During
the
adoption
of
rule
2-5,
the
air
district
board
of
directors
approved
a
resolution
to
create
a
working
group
comprised
of
air
district
management
and
members
of
the
bay
area
clean
water
agencies
or
aqua,
which
includes
san
jose
staff.
This
work
group
was
formed
in
response
to
concerns
raised
by
baqua
on
potential
adverse
effects
of
the
rule
on
the
wastewater
industry,
so
this
work
group
will
meet
quarterly
to
discuss
air
quality
issues
affecting
the
wastewater
treatment
industry
and
will
report
progress
to
the
air
district
board
of
directors
on
a
semi-annual
basis.
D
In
parallel
with
the
bachwa
outreach
efforts,
city
staff
are
working
with
air
district
engineering
staff
on
permitting
and
source
testing
issues.
These
out,
these
outreach
efforts
are
intended
to
help
regulatory
staff
understand
the
wastewater
treatment
process
with
the
goal
of
decreasing
permit
processing
times,
streamlining
permit
conditions
and
reducing
the
potential
for
enforcement
actions.
J
Thanks
jason,
so
switching
over
to
the
wastewater
compliance
side
of
things,
there
are
three
main
wastewater
permits:
there's
our
individual
permit,
which
was
reissued
in
2020,
and
the
most
significant
outcome
of
our
negotiations.
For
that
reissuance
was
a
change.
The
test
species
used
for
the
required
toxicity
testing
of
our
effluent.
J
Our
new
test
species
is
much
less
prone
to
false
positive
test
results
compared
to
the
previous
one,
and
a
change
to
statewide
regulations
that
is
pending
final
approval
will
impose
regulatory
penalties
for
positive
toxicity
test
results.
These
are
penalties
that
don't
currently
exist,
so
the
change
to
our
test
species
will
reduce
our
exposure
to
future
regulatory
penalties
from
erroneous
test
results
and
our
nutrient
permit,
which
is
a
group
permit
that
applies
to
all
wastewater
treatment
plants
discharging
to
san
francisco
bay
addresses.
J
And
phosphorus
these
are
two
elements
that
occur
in
all
wastewater
and
they're
essential
to
a
healthy
bay,
but
they
can
have
detrimental
effects
if
they
occur
at
high
enough
levels
under
the
right
conditions
and
I'll
provide
more
detail
about
our
nutrient
regulations
later
in
this
presentation,
and
then
our
pcbs
and
mercury
permit
also,
a
group
permit
is
set
to
be
reissued
at
the
end
of
this
year
and
that
establishes
effluent
limits
for
these
legacy
pollutants.
It
requires
monitoring
an
ongoing
source
control
program
and
programs
to
reduce
risk
exposure
to
vulnerable
populations.
J
To
date,
our
studies
of
the
bay
have
not
identified
clear
ecological
impairment,
and
this
is
despite
very
elevated
levels
of
nutrients
and
bay
waters,
so
the
conditions
aren't
right
to
cause
an
impairment,
but
the
nutrients
are
there
as
a
wastewater
treatment
facility.
We
are
already
very
effective
at
removing
nutrients
from
wastewater.
Due
to
past
upgrades
and
wastewater
compliance,
staff
have
also
proactively
undertaken
scientific
investigations
of
the
environmental
condition
in
the
lower
south
bay.
As
shown
in
these
pictures.
J
These
evaluations
of
costs
and
opportunity
will
add
useful
information
to
our
existing
understanding
of
the
cost
of
engineered
treatment.
Technologies
that
have
traditionally
been
used
to
reduce
nutrients
in
wastewater
and
reissuance
of
the
nutrient
permit
in
2024
is
in
the
early
stages
of
negotiation.
J
The
number
of
these
compounds
occurring
at
elevated
levels
of
concern
in
the
bay
are
also
growing
each
year,
so
there's
been
a
rapid
increase
in
the
amount
of
work
concerning
cecs
in
the
past
few
years.
Presently
there
are
no
regulatory
limits
for
cecs,
but
by
their
nature,
these
are
contaminants
that
should
be
evaluated
carefully.
J
J
Our
outreach
messaging
about
flea
and
tick
treatments
for
pets
and
safe
medicine
disposal
are
great
examples
of
how
this
collaborative
science-based
process
has
informed
and
prioritize.
Effective
public
outreach,
messaging
campaigns,
and
this
proactive
approach
has
served
us
well
in
addressing
cec's
issues
early
and
avoiding
costly
regulations.
But
it's
no
guarantee
that
future
cec
regulations
will
be
avoided
and
in
some
cases
they
may
be
inevitable
and
that's
the
likely
case
for
pfas,
which
is
a
current
cec
that
has
increased
national
attention
and
you
may
have
heard
of
it.
J
So
what
does
that
mean
for
us?
Well,
construction
and
commissioning
of
a
new
digested
sludge
dewatering
facility,
which
is
anticipated
to
be
completed
in
2025,
coupled
with
implementation
of
an
approved
biosolids
transition
strategy,
will
align
our
future
biosolids
disposal
operations
with
the
intent
of
the
sb1383
regulations.
H
Bills
that
come
up
we'll
be
continuing
to
engage
with
our
regulators
to
maintain
effective
working
relationships,
as
we
all
have
the
common
goals
to
protect
the
community
and
the
environment.
This
has
been
very
fruitful
in
our
relationship
with
the
water
board.
We're
hoping
that
this
new,
more
fake,
focused
collaboration
with
the
rwf
staff,
our
regional
partners
and
bachmed,
as
jason
described,
will
be
able
to
address
our
concerns
with
the
process
of
implementing
air
quality
regulation.
H
H
E
All
right,
thank
you,
claire
b,
queen
here,
thanks
for
your
patience
with
me
with
myself
on
the
previous
items
for
this
item,
I
guess
first
it's
of
interest
that
there's
not
enough
south
bay
representation
on
bachmate.
Good
luck
in
those
efforts
about
the
future
of
air
quality
monitoring
systems.
Just
a
a
hopeful
reminder
that
you
know,
there's
gonna
be
a
surveillance
and
technology
involved
with
with
the
air
monitoring
systems
and
that
it
is,
it
could
be
good
practice.
E
The
fire
truck
is
going
by.
It
can
be
good
practice
that,
to
practice
how
you
know
open
public
policies
and
accountability
with
with
air
monitoring
technology
and
how
that
can
be
an
open
process
with
the
public,
how
you
know
its
data
collection
can
be
shared
with
the
public
and
what
exactly
it
will
be
doing
that
that
can
be
good
work
for
yourselves.
E
I
also
wanted
to
remind
from
that
with
the
water
treatment
plant
itself.
Another
reminder
that
it's
okay,
I
think,
to
talk
about
the
ideas
of
sea
level
rise.
I
know
it's
a
fearful
subject
and
it's
not
that
pleasing,
but
it
is
happening
and
to
be
noting
that
to
our
community
as
you're
building
things
at
this
time.
I
think
it
could
be
really
helpful
to
ourselves.
You
don't
have
to
do
it
in
alarmist
term,
but
just
so
that
we
can.
E
You
know,
become
aware
that
we
do
have
to
build
things
now
to
mitigate
sea
level
rise
issues
I
it
can
send
a
subtle,
a
simple
and
a
real
important
message
to
ourselves
that
we've
got
to
be
working
on
stuff.
So
good
luck
in
these
efforts
and
because
we
do
have
to
be
working
on
on
sea
level,
rise
issues
for
the
future
of
this
part
of
the
bay
and
good
luck
in
our
efforts.
How
we
can
do
that.
Thank
you.
B
B
G
B
G
Santa
clara
county
gets
full
representation
at
the
bachmann
board.
It's
a
27
member
board
right.
Currently,
there
are
like
three
vacancies,
so
my
our
understanding
is.
We
have
to
apply
for
representation
through
county
county
of
santa
clara.
They
they
will
select
the
person,
they
are
not
elected,
but
they
are
rather
elected
members,
and
you
know
selected
by
the
county,
we're
going
to
find
more
information
for
you
and
you
know
for
to
your
office.
L
G
So
I
will
take
the
entire
attempt
to
respond
to
the
question
the.
As
you
heard,
there
are
a
number
of
constituents
in
the
in
the
in
the
wastewater
and
we
don't
control
what
comes
in,
but
it's
it
takes
decades
to
figure
out
what
is
the
dose
versus
impact
relationship
and
what
should
be
the
level
of
concern?
And,
what's
the
you
know,
or
what's
the
environmental
impact
associated
with
it
right
now,
there
are
80
000
compounds
in
there
and
some
of
them
gets
elevated.
J
J
It
comes
from
people,
and
so,
as
we
get
more
people
in
the
service
area,
we're
going
to
receive
more
nitrogen,
and
if
our
effluent
load
going
into
the
bay
is
capped.
Then
we
have
to
do
something
to
further
reduce
that
nitrogen
that's
coming
to
us,
so
so
so
that
is
another
another
expense
in
action.
Open.
L
Thank
you,
and
I
you
know,
I
know
you
have
a
very
great
capability
in
the
lab
at
the
treatment
facility,
presumably
to
monitor
all
these
various
I
mean
80
000
potential
things
to
monitor.
There
are
always
additional
cut.
There
could
be
additional
costs
as
well
to
upgrade
equipment
or
make
sure
you
have
the
staff
to
do
it
right.
B
A
M
Okay,
you
should
be
able
to
see
that.
Can
you
see
that?
Okay,
yes,
okay,
great
all
right,
so
I'm
I'm
here
today,
kind
of
so
stepping
back
for
a
moment
in
the
four-year
review
process
in
december
when
we
brought
the
coyote,
actually
coyote
valley
items.
I'm
sorry
came
with
the
end
of
november
council
recommended
or
asked
that
we
come
back
to
tne
with
a
report
on
all
things
coyotes.
M
M
M
For
short,
it's
a
partnership
between
the
city
and
the
santa
clara
open
space
authority,
and
it's
going
to
identify
how
the
natural
working
lands
could
contribute
to
climate
change,
climate
smarts,
ghd
reduction
goals.
It's
not
just
coyote,
a
big.
No,
a
big
part
of
its
recommendations
do
have
to
do
with
coyote,
but
it's
also
looking
at
other
natural
working
lands
within
the
city
limits.
Also
within
the
sphere
of
influence
just
outside
of
the
city
olympics.
M
M
M
M
The
other
one
is
the
monterey
coyote
corridor
study,
we've
added
the
word
coyote,
because
there's
is
council.
Member
esparza
will
know
there
is
another
monterey
corridor
work
going
on.
We
don't
want
to
confuse
the
two,
so
this
is
the
monterey
coyote
coyote
corridor
study.
This
also
came
out
of
the
for
you
review
of
the
general
plan
as
a
result
of
the
decisions
that
the
council
made
on
coyote
valley.
We
came
to
you
back
in
march.
M
M
These
uses
should
be
compatible
with
coyote
creek
and
the
broader
environmental
objectives
that
the
general
plan
has
in
kitty
valley
and
funding
is
currently
included
in
the
administration's
proposed
budget.
If
funding
is
approved,
work
would
begin
in
the
summer
of
2022.
We
anticipate
this
work
would
take
approximately
a
year
and
a
half
to
finish.
M
But,
however,
staff
resources
will
be
considered
as
part
of
the
2022-2023
fiscal
year
budget
process,
and
I
understand
you
know
in
the
mayor's
budget
message.
For
example,
there
was
included
a
resilience
planning,
a
resilience
plan
officer
that
would
oversee
sort
of
coordination
on
on
much
of
this
work.
That
concludes
staff
recommendation.
Kip.
I
don't
know
if
you
had
anything
more,
you
wanted
to
add
on
the
budget
side.
Yes,
I.
N
N
Second,
it
was
clear
from
mike's
presentation.
It's
also
pretty
complicated
work
with
many
departments
being
involved,
planning,
building,
code
enforcement,
environmental
services,
economic
development,
public
works
park,
recreation,
neighborhood
services,
and
then
the
mayor's
office
has
had
considerable
amount
of
leadership
in
coordinating
all
of
this
as
well
as
there
are
a
number
of
very
important
partners
at
play.
N
I
think
goes
a
long
way
to
clarifying
that
there's,
there's
funding
that
would
be
involved
for
a
couple
of
components
of
this,
and
it
also
has
directed
us
to
to
clarify
and
simplify
the
governance.
So
our
sense
is
that
that,
should
that
budget
language
make
it
all
the
way
through
to
the
final
and
be
supported
by
you
all
that
will
be
able
to
be
make
a
lot
more
momentum
on
this
work
in
the
next
fiscal
year,
and
unless
and
until
that
happens,
however,
we're
we're
kind
of
going
on
a
catches.
N
So
our
hope
is
the
direction
you've
given
us
both
clarifies
that
and
will
give
us
enough
of
the
resources
that
we
need
to
make
a
significant
lift
in
the
next
fiscal
year
and
it
will
be
part
of
the
roadmap
priorities
going
forward,
we'll
be
at
least
staff's
recommendation
for
you
to
decide.
So
with
that
I'll
I'll,
stop
and,
as
michael
indicated,
we're
free
to
take
any
questions
or
feedback
that
you
might
have
for
us.
Thank
you.
B
O
Good
afternoon
brian
schmidt,
with
green
foothills-
and
I
want
to
start
just
by
once
again
thanking
staff
and
the
council
for
such
excellent
work
that
has
been
done
on
county
valley
and
what
an
amazing
amount
of
change
has
happened
in
the
last
few
years
and
overall
in
the
status
report,
we
can
see
that
they're
not
resting
in
their
laurels.
Things
are
happening
in
particular
three
of
the
four
items:
the
natural
working
lands,
the
master
plan
and
the
climate
credits
are
all
moving
forward
and
we're
glad
to
see
those
move
forward.
O
Those
are
the
ones
that
are
particularly
urgent
regarding
the
monterey
corridor.
It
might
actually
benefit
from
from
from
the
fact
that
the
master
plan
might
precede
it
in
some
of
the
work.
There
is
not
the
same
sense
of
urgency
in
working
on
that.
That
plan
does
need
to
be
done.
The
quarter
study
does
need
to
be
done.
O
It
is
not
extremely
urgent,
and
one
thing
that
can
be
done
to
make
it
simpler
is
to
keep
the
eyes
on
the
prize,
and
in
that
case
it
is
to
focus
the
the
uses
and
conformance
of
uses
in
county
and
city
jurisdictional
lands
along
monterey
corridor.
It
is
not
a
massive
research
herd
of
massive
opportunities
and
alternatives
for
development
which
are
not
needed
in
coyote
valley.
That's
ship
has
sailed
a
while
back.
One
of
the
slides
talked
about
the
importance
of
coyote
valley
is
a
wildlife
landscape.
O
E
You
were
talking
about
wildlife
practices
that
are
going
to
be
needed
and
there's
going
to
be
a
surveillance
and
data
collection.
That's
going
to
be
needed
for
this
project
again
to
practice,
open
public
policies
and
accountability
with
the
technology
data
collection.
That's
going
to
be
used
for
this
project
for
this
area.
E
I
can
do
that
and
there's
one
other,
the
city
of
davis.
I
always
like
to
say
you
know
they
have
really
really
good
examples
of
wildlife,
surveillance
technology,
open
public
policy
ideas
that
I
go.
I
know
you
guys
know
about
that.
Possibly
you
know.
Kip
had
mentioned
they're
looking
for
some
sort
of
spark,
some
sort
of
interest,
how
to
better
understand
how
to
work
the
virtue
of
coyote
valley
projects,
maybe
a
trip
up
to
davis.
E
F
F
Coming
june,
8th
to
the
planning
commission
will
be
a
project,
that's
been
kind
of
lingering
and
going
on
since
2017,
where
one
gentleman
wants
to
build
a
mansion
on
two
parcels
that
are
just
north
of
coyote
valley,
so
bailey
kind
of,
if
you
think
of
your
mind,
down
there,
santa
teresa
and
kind
of
the
end
of
or
the
north
of
coyote
valley.
Anyway.
F
You
know
in
near
these
preserves
and
what
I'd
really
love
to
see
is
that
people
focus
on
the
details.
So,
when
you're
looking
to
vote
in
these
things,
I'm
not
trying
to
deny
one
man
his
residence,
I'm
trying
to
think
of
the
thousands
and
thousands
of
animals
who
use
that
one
particular
linkage
right
there
that
animal
crossing
that's
one
of
the
one
of
it.
I
think
it's
the
only
animal
crossing,
east-west
crossing
right
there,
and
so,
as
we
become
more
as
experts
in
this
field
of
preservation
and
wildlife.
F
B
Quiet
bunch
today,
while
you're
thinking
I
have
a
few
regarding
both
the
natural
well
really,
all
of
the
all
of
the
programs
that
you
talked
about.
Michael.
What
is
the
outreach
on
those
and
are
I
I
understand
that?
There's
been
some,
I
don't
want
to
say
conflict,
but
I
would
say
tension
between
the
environmental
groups
that
are
leading
some
of
these
items
and
the
property
owners,
and
I
want
to
know
what
the
outreach
and
the
inclusion
has
been
with
the
property
owners
in
the
corridor.
For
each
of
these
slices
of
work.
M
Right
so
I'll
start
with
the
easy
one
monterey
corridor,
so
we
haven't
started
that
outreach
yet
so
that
will
happen
I
mean
we've
talked
to
folks,
but
it
hasn't
happened
yet
and
then
and
natural
working
lens.
I
would
have
to
defer
to
esd
staff
on
that
one.
I
know
they
have
done
outreach,
but
I
haven't
been
deep
in
that,
so
they
would
need
to
respond
to
that.
M
The
coyote
valley,
master
planning
process
they're
really
in
the
early
stages
of
sort
of
crafting
what
outreach
would
look
like,
so
they
haven't
really
started
that
yet
and
climate
credits
hasn't
gone
public.
Yet
to
be
honest
with
you,
it's
still
in
sort
of
the
mechanical
stage
of
how
would
this
work
mechanically
and
there
hasn't
been
outreach
done
yet
to
that.
I
think
the
council
was
hoping
to
have
a
conversation
with
that
consultant
team
about
what
that's
looking
like.
There
was
an
attempt
to
bring
them
to
this
meeting.
M
C
C
The
credits
program
is
in
what
I'd
call
an
explorative
stage
at
this
point
in
a
couple
of
months,
we'll
have
an
internal
facing
meaning
to
be
shared
with
staff
work
products
that
will
have
some
additional
clarity
around
what
we're
calling
a
climate
resilience
credits
program
that
would
actually
be
voluntary
and
build
on
the
market
around
environmental,
social
and
governance
goals
of
corporations.
We
think
there's
a
lot
of
potential
here.
C
It's
extremely
innovative,
of
course,
san
jose
leading
the
charge,
and
the
idea
would
be
that
we
do
joint
thoughtful
outreach,
probably
in
concert
with
cv
camp.
However,
when
we
meet
with
your
staff
in
a
couple
of
months,
we'd
also
like
to
discuss
what
other
kinds
of
outreach
would
be,
you
know
important
to
you
absolutely
inclusive.
C
N
B
M
Yeah,
so
that's
we
actually
are
coordinating
with
them.
So
we've
had
a
spending
monthly
coordination
meeting
with
the
county
on
all
things
coyote.
It
was
more
focused
in
the
four-year
review
right
all
the
stuff.
They
were
doing
related
to
the
four-year
review,
but
we've
kept
those
meetings
going
even
after
the
council
approved
the
changes
to
county
valley
in
december
or
november,
so
we
still
meet
on
a
monthly
basis.
M
Meehan,
I
think
he
believes,
is
a
senior
planner,
so
he's
the
one
leading
all
the
sort
of
god.
What
is
it?
The
climate,
the
the
climate
overlay
thing
and
all
that
and
change
and
modifying
the
zoning,
the
county
zone
and
an
ag
so
we've
been
coordinating
with
with
with
them
and
and
and
and
we
are
going
to
continue
coordinating
with
them.
We
actually
had
also
had
a
a
a
larger
team
meeting
that
post
set
up
where
po
I'm
sorry
not
post.
It
was
open
space
authority
but
open
space
authority
post
us.
M
The
county
met
to
talk
about
all
of
these
things
that
we're
doing
and
we're
going
to
continue
those
meetings
on
a
quarterly
basis.
So
there
are
coordination
meetings
that
are
are
happening.
I
I
don't
want
to
say
that
they're
not
happening,
they
actually
are
happening.
It's
just
that
we,
the
challenge
we've
have,
is
actually
have
bodies
to
actually
do
the
work
on
our
side
so
and-
and
I
think
you
know
we're
ready
to
plow
forward
with
the
monterey
the
monterey
coyote
yeah
work,
you
get
funding
for
that.
M
We
have
brent
who's,
super
excited
and
he's
ready
to
just
you
know,
jump
out
of
the
gate
and
get
running
once
that
starts,
but
we've
already
been
talking
to
the
county
on
that.
One
piece
I
didn't
mention
is
that
the
council
gave
us
direction
to
work,
to
align
our
agricultural
zoning
districts
with
the
county
zoning
district.
So
that's
something
else.
That's
going
to
be
happening
that
brent
will
be
leading
in
tandem
in
coordination
with
all
this
other
work.
We're
talking
about.
N
B
You
hi
carrie,
thank
you
for
being
in
the
question
was
for
the
natural
working
lands
program
that
esd
is
heading
up
for
coyote
valley.
What
has
been
or
what
is
the
outreach
plan
for
that
that
program
and
that
work,
especially
with
the
property
owners
in
the
site
in
the
area,
because
there's
been
some
tension
with
the
environmental
groups,
and
I
know
osa
is
partnering
with
you
on
that
and
that's
why
I
wanted
to
make
sure
yeah.
I
So
it's
sort
of
a
collection
of
data
and
ideas
more
than
now
that
this
is
done,
we
go
forward
and
and
complete
certain
actions.
So
how
we
would
move
forward
is
still
up
for
discussion
and
there
is
no
funding
or
resources
to
do
more
than
what
we've
done
today.
So
it
wasn't
like.
I
said
it
wasn't
meant
to
be
something
that
that
continued
forward.
I
But
having
said
that,
much
like
climate,
smart
and
as
we
look
to
to
update
or
refresh
climate
smart,
we
do
need
to
fold
in
how
do
we
make
the
best
use
of
those
lands?
So
how
do
we
sequester
carbon?
How
do
we
ensure
we're
developing
where
we
need
to
develop,
so
we
lower
commute
pathways
and
get
people
out
of
their
cars
etc,
but
the
plan
doesn't
include
any
changes
in
land
designation
or
anything
like
that.
So
the
much
like
climate,
smart,
it's
built
on
top
of
the
general
plan.
I
B
I
just
I've
and
they've
been
very
clear
to
me,
and
I
know
to
other
council
members
on
a
regular
basis
that
they
want
to
be
included
in
the
discussions
as
things
go
along
because
they
do
own
property
in
that
area.
They
don't
want
things
to
be
done
to
them.
They
want
to
be
part
of
the
process,
and
so
I
just
I
thought
it
was
important
to
bring
that
up,
not
just
for
the
honestly
carrie,
I'm
not
putting
you
on
the
spot.
This
is
for
everyone
for
all
of
these
items.
B
I
think
there
were
four
of
them.
I
it's
just
important
that
it's
not
a
community
check
the
box
community
meeting
process,
it's
an
as
they
go
along.
If
we
have
post
an
osa
at
the
table
at
a
rate
at
regular
meetings
and
you're
developing
a
framework
with
post
and
osa,
then
you
should
have
property
owners
being
represented
at
the
table
at
the
same
exact
time.
B
Thank
you,
and
so
I
I
did
want
to
ask.
There
was
a
letter
from
hopkins
and
carly
about
this
item,
and
I-
and
it
was
basically
addressing
the
the
the
problem
that
michael
was
talking
about
in
terms
of
lack
of
funds.
There
is
open
sp,
there
might
be
funding
available
from
crap
cap
and
trade
funds,
or
the
governor's
proposed
budget
to
be
able
to
do
some
of
this
work,
or
also
to
potentially
even
have
funding
to
conserve
the
land.
B
N
Yeah,
I
think
it's
pretty
quick.
The
the
good
news
is
that's.
That
direction
is
very
much
in
alignment
with
the
way
that
we're
working.
In
fact,
if
I
could,
if
I
could
move
my
video
camera
over
you'd,
see
the
rest
of
my
whiteboard,
I
have
new
funding
and,
as
part
of
the
the
overall
resilience
work
and
the
coordination
with
sarah
zarate
zane
tom
westfield
in
our
igr
office,
they're
literally
dotted
line
into
this
into
this
work
that
we're
doing
on
on
climate
resilience
in
a
much
stronger
way
than
they
have
been
in
the
past.
N
So
we
we'd
accept
that
that
direction
very
willingly
and
happily
and
it's
in
alignment
with
the
work
that
we've
started.
My
only
minor
edit
as
an
old
old
deputy
city
manager
type
is
we'd.
I
think
the
direction
should
properly
be
to
the
city
manager
to
to
do
that.
So
we
can
figure
out
what
pieces
and
parts
are
the
right
one
rather
than
any
particular
staff
or
our
staff
in
general,
but
other
than
that.
N
It's
a
completely
alignment
and
we're
hopeful
that
there
will
be
some
significant
funding
sources
both
for
some
of
the
potential
work
here
and
also
support
the
ongoing
effort.
Part
of
what
we've
done
in
our
city
budget,
though,
is
we've
sort
of
primed
the
pump
and
we've
put
in
some
funding
that
will
allow
us,
hopefully
to
do
some
of
the
studies
bring
on
board.
N
Potentially
somebody
in
the
city
manager's
office,
who
could
play
a
coordinating
role
as
well
as
a
bit
of
a
an
expert
role
with
all
of
the
different
pieces,
and
to
your
point
about
making
sure
that
the
different
stakeholders
from
from
environmental
advocates
and
landowners
all
have
a
sense
of
of
how
the
different
pieces
are
moving
together.
It's
complicated
and
it's
complicated
for
those
of
us
who
are
involved
on
a
more
regular
basis,
so
hope
we
want
to
make
that
a
little
more
transparent,
and
I
think
that
feedback
was
also
well
well
received.
N
B
A
A
N
B
C
C
E
E
B
A
I
just
got
to
kick
it
off.
Council
member.
Thank
you
very
much
we're
here
to
present
an
suggested
update
to
our
federal
policy
5-1
that
was
originally
adopted
in
february
of
2018.
So
we've
learned
a
lot
over
the
last
couple
years.
We've
got
some
suggested
and
recommended
changes
to
that.
We've
got
a
presentation
for
you,
rambus,
madhu
and
nick
frye.
My
staff
will
be
doing
that
and
we
also
have
received
the
memorandum
from
councilman
prowls.
We
can.
We
can
also
talk
about
so
rambus
or
nick.
K
Good
afternoon
committee,
ramses
madu
division,
manager
of
planning,
policy
and
sustainability
I'll
be
doing.
The
presentation
nick
is
here
to
help
answer
any
questions
if
they
come
up
along
with
chris
burton
and
michael
rio,
from
planning
building
and
code
enforcement.
So
I
can
get
this
over
to
the
right
load
camera
there.
We
go
all
right,
so
yeah,
so
council
policy,
5-1
otherwise
known
as
the
vmt
policy
oversees
the
way
that
the
city
handles
the
transportation
element
for
new
land
use
development
projects
right.
K
D
M
K
Mentioned-
and
it
was,
we
were
the
fourth
city
in
the
state
to
pass
this
rule.
Almost
all
cities
have
passed
this
rule
now
and
what
it
basically
did
is
removed
what
was
called
level
of
service
or
loss
as
the
transportation
metric
for
sequa
and
moved
it
to
vehicle
miles
traveled
as
the
basic
big
move.
This
move
this
aligned
us
with
state
policies
and
brought
us
into
a
kind
of
new
way
of
looking
at
transportation.
K
We
it
with
the
direction.
I'm
sorry
with
the
passage
of
the
original
version
of
this
policy.
We
did
have
baked
into
that
council
direction
to
come
back
after
all
of
our
neighboring
jurisdictions,
passed
their
versions
of
the
rules
as
well
as
we
gained
enough
internal
lessons
to
come
back
and
see
what
we
might
do
to
improve
its
operation.
K
So
that's
what
we're
here
to
do
today
and
a
reminder.
We
did
do
a
very
short
spot
on
this
last
month
and
we're
asked
to
come
back
with
a
deeper
conversation
around
what
we're
proposing.
So
that's.
Why
we're
here
today,
all
right
so
there's
three
different
areas
of
proposal
that
we
are
bringing
forward
to
council
for
discussion.
One
the
first
category
is:
is
market
rate
housing.
K
So
first
focusing
on
housing
production
we'll
go
through
each
one
of
these
a
little
bit
deeper,
but
one
looking
at
streamlining,
more
areas
of
the
city
for
market
rate,
housing
I'll
touch
on
what
streamlining
means
here
in
a
second.
Second
one
is
allowing
market
rate
housing
access
to
the
significant
and
unavoidable
impacts
portion
of
this
policy.
K
If
those
projects
are
already
aligned
with
the
general
plan
and
the
housing,
affordability,
the
affordable
housing
category,
we're
looking
at
streamlining
a
great
deal
more
area
in
the
city
for
more
affordable
housing
projects
and
that
that
updates
some
of
the
screening
criteria
as
well,
and
then
background
updates,
basically
we're
updating
the
very
base
map
that
we
used
for
this,
as
well
as
moving
over
to
the
county-wide
calculator
that
we
actually
helped
vta
build
all
right.
So
what
is
streamlining?
And
what
do
we
streamline
for
now?
K
So
streamlining
is
intended
only
for
special
projects
that
are
either
too
small
to
really
have
a
measurable
impact
or
to
really
carry
any
cost
burden
or
have
de
facto
vmt
reducing
qualities
such
as
local,
serving
retail.
Every
time
you
put,
a
new
safeway
in
the
city,
folks
are
now
driving
less
distance
to
the
to
the
safeways
that
we're
far
away
right,
and
so
we've
we've.
That's
that's
one
of
the
ways
that
we
can
justify
a
streamlined
project.
K
K
Good
all
right,
so
that's
one
two
is:
let's
see,
I'm
gonna,
do
it
that
way?
Yeah
I'm
gonna
just
put
out
there
real,
quick.
The
other
thing
with
housing
market
rate
housing
is
the
change
to
allow
market
rate
housing
to
use
the
override
policy
or
the
yeah,
which
would
allow
projects
to
get
a
statement
of
overwriting
considerations
if
they
do
have
an
initial
sequel
impact
yeah,
and
we
have
a
lot
of
places
where
this
is
already
allowed
in
the
city.
K
So
this
is
not
a
new
mechanism
or
anything
like
that.
It's
merely
allowing
more
housing
projects
to
get
into
that.
That
process
all
right
for
affordable
housing,
we're
trying
to
solve
some
of
the
equity
issues
that
are
inherent
in
in
our
land
use
setup
and
the
history
of
land,
use
and
and
the
city,
and
this
policy
5-1
has
kind
of
ex
has
the
potential
for
exacerbating
some
of
those
inequities.
K
So
what
we're
doing
is
we're
going
to
remove
the
or
we're
proposing
to
remove
the
claws
that
affordable,
restricted,
affordable
housing
projects
would
need
to
be
within
planned
growth
areas
to
get
a
streamlined
treatment
within
the
secret
process.
I
mean
you
can
see
this
changes,
the
the
map
for
for
affordable
housing
from
roughly
17
of
the
city
to
65
and
sorry,
that's
not
of
the
whole
city
of
allowable
residential
lands.
F
K
O
K
One
is
just
the
base
map
since
bart
has
opened
up
in
milpitas,
and
the
like
is
important
to
get
some
some
updates.
The
map
you
can
see,
particularly
in
our
san
jose
area,
some
pretty
significant
change
in
terms
of
the
areas
that
are
going
to
be
able
to
move
forward
in
an
easier
way
through
this
policy.
K
This
is
the
per
capita
one
which
means
per
person,
and
this
would
apply
to
residential
projects,
and
here
you
can
see
the
the
commercial
one.
This
applies
to
office
projects
and
then
the
last
update
we're
doing
the
city
when
it
originally
built
it's
its
policy.
We
all
built
along
with
it
a
online
tool,
so
projects
could
look
at
what
their
vmt
impact
would
be
and
start
designing
it
from
the
front
up.
Developers
have
liked
this
tool
a
lot.
K
It's
given
them
a
lot
more
information
about
what
our
processes
are
and
the
like
and
vta,
really
liked
what
we
did,
and
so
they
took
our
calculator
and
built
a
nicer
online
interface
to
it
and
expanded
it
to
the
whole
county
and
their
project
is
pretty
much
done.
We
have
some
background
technical
things
to
finish,
but
soon
the
entire
county
will
be
using
the
same
vmt
calculator
which
really
helps
with
any
kind
of
cross
boundary
issues
that
might
come
up.
K
So
that's
the
presentation
and
yeah
and
then
to
acknowledge
the
memo
from
from
council
member
perales
that
there
are
some
guidelines
around
how
we
might
take
on
that
item.
Number
two
for
allow
all
housing
projects
aligned
with
land
use
policies
of
the
general
plan
to
be
considered
for
statements
of
significant
unavoidable.
O
K
F
F
E
Hi
blair
beekman
here
thanks
for
this
item,
I
guess
you
know
some
reminders
that
you
know
low,
very
low
income,
extremely
low
income
and
mixed
income.
Ideas
of
housing
can
be
really
important
and
mixed
income.
This
can
offer
an
incredible
flexibility
and
choices
and
how
all
income
levels
can
live
under
one
roof
to
live
in
one
neighborhood
and
it
can
give
you
a
you
know,
a
variety
of
good
choices
for
our
future
that
I
hope
we're
learning
how
to
better
talk
about
and
understand.
E
I
understand
the
incentives
involved,
but
why
not
invite
market
rate
housing
to
the
future
of
the
environmental
process?
It
looks
kind
of
ugly
to
to
do
it.
The
way
we
are,
I
understand
your
incentive
process,
but
I
think
we
should
do
something.
That
brings
us
all
on
board
on
the
same
course,
and
we
all
understand
that
to
make
different
rules
for
different
groups.
It
creates
confusion,
and
I
know
you're
going
to
try
to
explain
things,
but
they'll
undoubtedly
be
confusion
or
inevitably
will
be
confusion
with
with
these
sort
of
practices.
E
Why
not
line
it
up?
So
we
all
can
agree
that
you
know
working
towards
a
good
environmental
future
is
important
to
all
of
us,
and
it
doesn't
have
to
be.
Money
does
not
have
to
be
an
issue.
It
really
doesn't.
We
have
to
learn
to
work
that
way.
It's
the
same
with
finding
affordable
housing,
I
mean
truly
affordable
housing.
E
A
K
Yeah,
it's
a
really
good
point
right
and-
and
I
think
you're
you
know
this
is
the
map
that
matters
right
and
so
we're
looking
here
at
areas
that
overlap
between
high
resource
areas
and
low
or
high
vmt,
and
the
blue
areas
are
kind
of
state
denominated
as
the
highest
resource
areas.
White's
kind
of
in
between.
C
K
M
Well
and
ramsay's
correct
me,
I'm
wrong,
but
the
when
you're
in
that
green
area
as
proposed.
That
means
you
got
a
streamlined
pathway
forward.
Correct,
that's
correct
yeah,
so
it
doesn't
mean
affordable,
can't
go
into
those
other
higher
resource
areas.
It
means
just
it
has
to
go
through
the
more
regular
sequel
process.
Well
said,.
A
Okay,
yeah
that's
helpful
and
I
think
it's
obviously
not
just
a
unique
dilemma
there.
I
I
agree
with
both
of
those
goals,
and
so
you
know,
I
think
we
may
expect
to
see
some
some
more
projects
getting
proposed
over
in
that
west
western
region
district,
one
area
and
and
since
it
meets
both
of
our
our
goals.
I
think
we
should
keep
that
in
mind
that
it's
not
just
about
streamlining,
but
it's
about.
A
Let's,
let's
you
know,
let's
help
aid
those
projects
move
through
because
they
can,
they
can
really
help
us
achieve
reduced
emt
and
all
the
benefits
that
brings
as
well
as
developing
in
higher
resource
areas.
So
I'm
moving
forward
to
my
memo.
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
to
staff.
I
know
we've
been
at
this
for
a
little
bit
now
and
I
really
do
feel
as
I
denoted
in
my
memo.
A
It's
a
bit
of
trying
to
thread
a
needle
here,
and
so
you
know
I
I
recognize
the
challenge
of
that
and
that
that's
not
easy
to
do
because
everything
is
is
conceptual
right.
It's
about.
Will
we
potentially
have
some
projects
proposed
in
areas
in
the
future
that
may
require
a
general
plan
amendment
and
that
you
know,
maybe
they
don't
necessarily
make
sense
to
us
today,
but
they
may
in
the
future,
and
you
know,
can
we
create
a
pathway
there
where
this
policy
is
not
so
restrictive
or
you
know
the
other
side?
A
Do
we
you
know?
Do
we
create
too
large
of
a
pathway
where
the
floodgates
have
opened
up
and-
and
you
know,
and
now
we've
negated
our
own
work
here,
so
I've
tried
to
propose,
I
think,
some
language
they
could
help
on
that
path
and
didn't
know
if
staff
wanted
to
provide
feedback
on
that.
But
I'd
like
to
move
that
in
acceptance
with
the
report.
M
Michael
yeah,
I
just
I
just
want
to
note
that
there,
even
though
the
policy
currently
does
not
support
an
override,
there
is
always
a
path
to
an
override
and
there's
actually
a
general
plan
amendment
that
we've
received
on
a
conversion
of
a
school
in
district
10,
which
will
be
coming
to
you
relatively
soon
for
early
consideration,
and
so
as
part
of
that
process.
As
an
example
we'll
be
asking
the
council
and
saying
that
this
proposal
is
fundamentally
inconsistent
with
the
general
plan
and
consistent
with
the
transportation
policy
5-1,
we
recommend
denial.
M
So
as
part
of
that
process,
there
always
is
a
path
where
council
can
consider
a
general
plan
amendment
and
ultimately
approve
it,
even
if
it's
inconsistent
with
the
transportation
policy.
So
I
just
want
to
make
note
of
that.
We're
going
to
you're
going
to
be
hearing
about
a
gpa
along
these
lines
in
the
very
near
future,.
A
A
Besides
the
council
overriding
themselves
and
saying
no,
we
don't
want
to
go
this
direction,
but
what
I'm
trying
to
put
forward
is
an
opportunity
where
there
is
a
path
right,
but
it
has
some
very,
very
strict
parameters
and
and
some
benefits
that
the
council
needs
to
be
looking
at,
and
so
it
just
kind
of
you
know
makes
it
a
little
bit
more
clear
and
a
little
less
political
to
where
you
know
there
is.
There
is
again
a
very
narrow
path.
A
That's
that
somebody
can
can
navigate
down
and
the
council
can
vet
out
versus.
Just
sorry,
you
would
be
recommended
denial
unless
you
know
the
council,
which
at
the
moment,
right
arbitrarily
would
decide
for
whatever
reason
you
know
you
should
move
forward,
and
so
I
just
think
that
that's
that's
the
the
hope
that
I'm
going
for,
and
so
I
didn't
know
if
staff,
if
you
wanted
it,
you
know
sounded
like
you
may
be
thinking,
hey
the
the
suggested
language
that
I
have
is
not
necessary.
A
M
You
know,
I
think,
thank
you,
that
the
expert
that
explanation
helps
a
little
bit
yeah
I
mean
I
think
yeah
I
was
just
yeah.
I
mean
we're,
definitely
willing
to
explore
it.
I
think
I
think
there's
a
question
about
what
that
criteria
would
be.
For
example,
I
mean
I
think
I
already
have
thoughts
whizzing
around
in
my
brain,
but
I
mean
we
can
definitely
explore
it
and
present
some
kind
of
alternative
or
some
approach
that
council
could
consider,
I
think,
is
yeah
but
yeah.
M
I
think
the
idea
just
sort
of
your
comment
about
you
know
making
it
taking
it
out
of
the
political
realm
where
the
council
just
overrides
it,
but
it's
giving
more
sort
of
clarity
from
a
policy
perspective
if
it
were
to
have
a
path
forward.
What
a
project
would
need
to
do
or
accomplish
to
meet.
City
goals
was
helpful,
so
yeah
I
mean
we're
willing
to
take
a
look
at
that.
Explore
that.
A
A
C
A
Comfortable,
I'm
comfortable
with
with
it
going
straight
to
council.
I
was,
but
I
do
know
that
we
had
an
interest
from
our
chair
that
did
it
come
back
to
teenage,
and
so
I
was
comfortable
with
that
as
well.
If
you
wanted
to
try
to
convince
our
chair
as
to
why
I'll
let
I'll
let
that
argument
play
out.
N
Ramsay's,
I
would
I
would,
if
I'll,
weigh
in
as
deputy
city
manager
on
this
one.
I
would
let
the
council
make
its
direction
to
us
on
that,
because
we
can.
We
can
move
forward
with
what
we
need
to
move
forward
with
and
if
we
need,
we've
got
a
pretty
complicated
piece
of
policy
here
that
we
need
to
make
sure
it's
fitting
and
if
they
would
like
to
bring
it
back
to
tne,
I
believe
that's
completely
within
their
discretion
to
do
so.
I
would
prefer
we
lit
this
decision
to
the
committee
elected
officials.
B
B
M
I'm
sorry,
I'm
I'm
lowering
lowering
my
hand
yeah.
I
will
mention
that.
Well,
since
I
have
my
hand
up
unexpectedly,
I
mean
yigbee
is
sort
of
wanting
to
move
forward
and
contingent
upon
these
changes,
but
so
there
are
just
be
aware
that
there
are
things
that
are
trying
to
move
forward
that
need
this
to
kind
of
land.
It
would
have
a
finish
line.
I
just
wanted
to
note
that.
C
Thank
you
chair.
I
I
would
support
this
coming
back
to
tne
because,
as
you
mentioned
many
times,
we
make
changes
at
the
dais
that
we
haven't
all
considered.
What
the
implications
of
those
changes
would
be.
So
I'd
rather
do
the
markup
in
this
committee
and
then
have
it
come
back
to
the
council
after
we've
concluded
our
best
effort
to
make
it
the
perfect
ordinance
or
perfect
policy
that
we
possibly
can.
C
I
do
have
one
question
for
you,
though,
ramses
is,
with
regards
to
the
changes
that
you're
proposing
loosening
guidelines
to
develop,
affordable
housing
in
the
in
the
high
resourced
areas.
Does
that
have
any
negative
effect
on
open
space
in
other
parts
of
the
city?
Do
you
see
that
reducing
open
space
possibilities
or
having
the
unintended
consequences
of
that.
K
Yeah
I
mean
in
a
direct
fashion;
no,
it
only
allows
for
things
which
are
already
allowed
right,
so
it's
not
changing
zoning
or
changing
requirements
in
any
other
way.
I'm
so
fat
that
you
know
if
an
affordable
housing
project
can
move
forward
already
today
for
general
plan
guidelines
and
zoning,
it
can
go
ahead
and
just
get
some
extra
support
for
that
it
doesn't
contemplate
any
changes
to
how
land-use
designations
might
change
or
anything
like
that
right.
C
G
E
F
E
E
Thank
you
very
much
and
continuing
these
efforts
to
go
on
in
what
has
been
years
of
dialogue
and
negotiation
for
all
sides
about
the
future
of
the
ukraine
area,
including
additional
recent
additions
that
the
ukraine
can
join
the
eu
and
that
russia
can
actually
return
parts
of
georgia
of
the
georgia
republic.
I
hope
we
do
not
have
to
continue
to
rely
on
war,
its
harm
and
its
displacement
as
the
ways
for
countries
in
the
ukraine
area
to
try
to
prove
their
mettle
and
their
points
of
view.
E
Thanks
for
letting
me
say
that
to
speak
also,
you
know
we
we
we're
talking.
There
was
an
item
at
I
think,
rules
in
open
government
last
week
that
was
really
interesting
about
the
future
of
housing
for,
say,
drug
treatment
programs.
What
how
to
consider
the
use
of
drug
use
in
our
future.
What
do
we
do
with
those
conditions
coming
from
the
state
level
we're
introducing
some
tough
kind
of
tough
new
measures?
We
possibly
are
expanding
going
to
be
expanding,
laura's
law?
You
know
that
we
talked
about
not
expanding.
E
I
think
we
all
have
to
kind
of
take
a
breath
and
consider
what
we
are
actually
starting
to
do
at
this
time
and
and
kind
of
reassess
that
people
can
follow
these
cracks
with
these
latest
steps
that
we
do
want
to
really
address
issues,
but
people
will
fall
through
the
cracks
in
these
efforts
and
we
got
to
be
really
on
top
of
laura
law's
issues
and
really
have
the
review
studies
each
six
months
exactly
at
six
months,
and
do
things
really
well
and
review
ourselves
really
well
as
we're
going
along
these
new
steps.
Thank
you.