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City of San José, California
Transportation & Environment Committee of February 1, 2021.
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A
B
C
D
Here,
thank
you
all
right.
So
this
is
the
transportation
environment
committee,
our
first
meeting
of
2021..
I
want
to
welcome
our
new
committee
members,
council,
members,
foley
and
cohen.
Welcome
and
we
can
get
started.
It
looks
like
we
don't
have
anything
on
consent
today
and
nothing
on
the
work
plan
review.
So,
let's
go
to
reports
of
committee.
D
E
All
right,
I'm
gonna,
just
start
us
off
real
fast
and
then
pass
it
off
to
them.
So
afternoon.
Committee,
ramses,
madu,
division,
manager
of
planning
policy
and
sustainability
for
the
department
of
transportation
really
excited
to
be
bringing
you
an
update
on
the
electric
mobility
roadmap.
It's
a
core
piece
of
bringing
our
transportation
system
into
the
paris
accord.
E
C
F
F
B
F
F
The
roadmap
strategies
to
reduce
vehicle
greenhouse
gas
emissions
were
organized
around
four
major
themes:
to
increase
the
number
and
distribution
of
electric
vehicle
charges
across
the
city
to
convert
the
city's
fleet
and
encourage
other
fleet
owners
to
do
the
same,
to
increase
the
number
of
people
across
income
levels
who
own
electric
vehicles
and
to
expand
access
to
electric
transportation
by
expanding
shared
electric
options
when
they
accepted
the
road
map.
The
council,
georgia
staff
to
take
six
actions,
two
offer
financial
counseling
workshops
to
help
lower
income
residents,
purchase
electric
vehicles.
F
Staff
conducted
several
such
workshops
last
year
to
develop
an
lha
car
share
pilot
program
in
an
affordable
housing
development
in
the
fall
of
last
year.
Dot
provided
a
letter
of
support
to
first
community
housing,
an
envoy,
a
car
share
company
for
a
grant
that
would
place
electric
shared
cars
in
several
first
communities:
san
jose
developments,
a
decision
on
that
grant
program
should
be
announced
soon
to
create
an
electric
bus
demonstration
project.
F
Last
year,
san
jose
clean
energy
provided
a
litter
of
support
to
prospect
silicon
valley
for
a
grand
application
they
made
with
the
franklin,
mckinley
and
campbell
union
school
districts
to
electrify
the
district
school
buses.
A
decision
on
that
grant
is
also
expected
shortly
to
update
the
city's
green
fleet
policy
and
replacement
plan
public
work
plans
to
return
to
council
with
the
proposed
green
fleet
policy
in
spring
of
this
year
to
return
to
city
council
with
an
ordinance
authorizing
a
one-way
vehicle
sharing
program.
F
F
Publicly
available
charters
in
the
city
is
growing
as
a
result
of
public
works.
Partnership
with
pg
e,
the
utility
will
be
installing
112
charging
ports
at
four
city
facilities,
happy
hollow
zoo,
san
jose's
police
headquarters,
mayberry
service
yard
and
the
south
service
yard.
All
the
charges
will
be
available
to
the
city's
fleet,
vehicles
and
employees.
F
The
location
of
the
projects
have
not
yet
been
made
public.
The
reigning
three
million
at
san
jose
spawn
will
be
released
in
july,
will
allow
more
san
jose
projects
currently
on
the
waitlist
to
move
forward
with
that
I'll
turn.
The
presentation
over
to
walter
lin
in
public
works
to
talk
about
greening
the
city's
fleet.
C
Thank
you
so
much
laura
and
good
afternoon
council,
member
and
chair
davis
and
members
of
the
t,
candy
committee.
I
am
walter
lin.
I
am
a
deputy
director
in
the
public
works
department.
I
manage
the
fleets,
facilities
and
radio
communications
divisions
I'll
be
sharing
with
you
a
bit
in
terms
of
the
city's
current
fleet
inventory,
as
well
as
the
current
progress
and
future
outlook
for
our
conversion
to
all
electric
vehicles.
C
C
C
We
do
have
other
alternative
fuel
vehicles
within
our
fleet,
whether
they're
with
biofuels,
renewable
diesel
or
propane,
as
you
can
see,
also
about
50
of
our
fleet,
is
still
unleaded
that
is
based
on
existing
fleets,
but
our
view
and
our
commitment
to
go
electric
first
with
any
types
of
future
replacements,
we're
technically
feasible
laura
if
we
can
move
to
the
next
slide
for
this
year's
replacement
plan
of
the
2500
vehicles
and
the
268
are
already
currently
fully
electric.
We
do
have
just
about
2216
vehicles
that
are
not
electric
at
this
point.
C
C
The
reason
why
we're
only
converting
19
is
because
these
are
on
the
schedule
for
replacement
for
this
year,
as
well
as
the
technical
feasibility
of
changing
these
vehicles.
Right
now
they
are
currently
on
the
market.
There
are
proven
technologies,
there
are
other
vehicles
that
are
either
heavier
duty
or
there
is
not
a
standard
out
in
the
marketplace
as
yet
where
the
city
would
feel
comfortable
in
making
large
purchases
without
having
more
experience
more
familiarity
of
having
those
being
made
available
in
the
market.
C
Laura
next
slide,
please
for
a
future
conversion
strategy.
We
are
looking
at
the
different
vehicle
types
on
the
left
column.
After
converting
the
19
vehicle
replacements
this
year
with
all
electric,
we
will
still
have
2197
vehicles
left
of
the
varying
categories,
light
duty,
sedans
and
suvs,
the
light
duty,
trucks
and
vans,
the
medium
duty
vehicles
and
the
off-road
and
heavy-duty
vehicles
we've
recreated.
Based
on
what
is
available
out
in
the
marketplace.
It
would
be
just
about
13.5
million
dollars
to
convert
our
remaining
light
duty
fleet.
C
C
The
other
categories,
as
mentioned
before
the
light
duty
trucks,
the
medium
duty
and
the
heavy
duty,
are
off-road.
We
again
within
the
city.
We
are
following
different
types
of
technologies
as
they
emerge.
We
may
not
be
ready
as
yet
to
make
larger
purchases
only
because
they
are
not
available
on
the
marketplace.
F
F
Last
summer,
d.o.t
and
san
jose
clean
energy
launched
the
city's
first
electric
vehicle
discount
program
in
partnership
with
five
auto
dealerships,
capital,
chevrolet
capital,
hyundai
capital,
kia,
premier,
nissan
of
san
jose
and
stevens
creek
kia.
The
dealerships
offered
discounts
of
up
to
three
thousand
dollars
on
seven
electric
vehicle
models.
F
F
F
The
dealerships
have
said
they
would
like
to
repeat
the
program
as
they
believe
the
effort
stimulated.
Sales
may
be
sales
during
coven
19.,
with
financial
support
from
american
cities.
Climate
challenge.
Last
summer,
d.o.t
san
jose,
clean
energy
and
peninsula
family
service
launched
drive
forward
an
electric
vehicle
financial
counseling
program.
F
The
program
is
designed
to
help
low
and
moderate-income
san
jose
residents,
improve
their
finances
and
if
they
were
interested
to
buy
a
new
or
used
electric
vehicle,
the
team
held
90
four
90-minute
virtual
workshops
in
english,
spanish
and
vietnamese
accessible
online
and
by
phone
peninsula.
Family
service
also
provided
free,
one-on-one
financial
counseling
sessions
by
phone
or
by
zoom.
The
workshops
were
attended
by
65
people.
43
took
advantage
of
the
one-on-one
financial
counseling
sessions
and
44
participated
in
a
follow-up
survey
of
those
40
said
they
were
somewhat
likely
or
very
likely
to
purchase.
F
F
F
Staff
is
developing
a
number
of
recommendations
to
maximize
the
value
of
the
service
of
the
community.
While
addressing
residents
concerns,
the
proposals
include
authorizing
the
dot
director
to
issue
permits
allowing
one-way
vehicles
to
park
in
metered
and
otherwise
restricted
areas
for
up
to
72
hours.
However,
there
would
be
some
conditions.
F
G
You
know
these
are
the
populations
that
we're
talking
about
so
basically
what
they're
doing
is
they're
using
getting
access
to
city
resources
in
order
to
create
an
infrastructure
to
support
the
elite.
Okay,
I
don't
care,
if
you
call
it
green,
I
don't.
I
don't
care
what
kind
of
euphemistic
terms
you
put
on
it.
What
we're
talking
about
here,
and
it's
really
offensive
for
district
six
to
be
in
a
position
to
continually
determine
the
context
in
which
I
function
and
my
descendants
function.
G
You
know,
I
think,
with
what
happened
with
the
fallon
statue
today,
I
think,
is
a
vindication.
It
is
a
vindication
of
the
fact
that
that
district
district
c
has
constantly
determined
the
text
in
which
my
ancestors
live,
and
it's
tired,
no
more,
that's
not
going
to
happen
anymore.
So
what
I
would
like
is
a
detailed
analysis
of
the
demographics
that
are
going
to
immediately
be
the
beneficiaries
of
this
infrastructure
that
these
people
are
asking
the
city
to
access.
Yes,
there's
going
to
be
government
grant
money.
There's
going
to
be.
G
B
B
The
other
sort
of
aspect
of
the
governor's
plan
that
I'm
curious
about
on
what
it
means
for
us
again,
particularly
from
an
equity
standpoint,
is
that
the
governor
is
looking
for
california
to
ramp
up
construction
of
charging
stations,
both
on
state
I'm
assuming
the
state
infrastructure,
but
also
for
cities.
So
what
does
that
mean
for
us.
E
E
Tesla
dominates
the
the
the
eevee
market
right
now
and
and
the
benefits
of
of
of
owning
evs
are
flowing
to
folks
who
have
a
high
income
at
the
moment,
and
we
are
specifically
trying
to
bend
that
curve,
so
we're
specifically
focusing
on
resources
that
can
bring
charging
stations
to
communities
that
have
trouble
accessing
them
right.
We're
specifically
looking
at
policies
to
see
how
we
can
get
multi-family
areas,
multi-family
unit
complexes,
whether
it
be
in
the
complex
or
near
it,
to
get
the
benefit
of
the
public
money.
F
F
To
have
us
do
these
electric
vehicle
workshops
and
with
the
support
of
the
american
climate
challenge,
we
were
able
to
pay
vince
dummies
family
service
to
work
with
us
to
do
these
workshops
for
low
and
moderate
income
families,
and
we
were
really
pleased
to
see
that
their
response
was
very
interested
in
purchasing
electric
vehicles.
What
we're
noticing
now
is
that
a
lot
of
those
folks
have
not
actually
moved
to
the
step
of
actually
purchasing,
so
we're
realizing
more
is
needed
and
that's
what
we're
trying
to
figure
out
now.
B
B
F
I'm
looking
to
see
if
emily
bresen
is
on
the
call
with
us,
because
she
actually
had
one-on-one
conversations
with
the
residents
who
participated.
I
don't
see
her,
so
I
can't
speak
directly,
but
I
can
check
with
her.
I
know
they
had
follow-up
conversations
with
all
the
people
who
participated
that
they
could
reach
to
find
out
what
they
what
they
valued
about
it
and
what
could
be
better,
and
so
she
I
can
ask
her
if
she
has
any
insight
into
what
they
said.
The
obstacles
were.
B
B
Those
are
some
of
the
most
overcrowded
census
tracts
in
the
city.
So
if
you
pull
up
a
map
that
has
census
tracts
of
san
jose,
the
west
is
very
light
and
east
is
like
gray
to
black
right,
because
there's
so
much
overcrowding,
that's
not
all
multi-family
dwellings.
A
lot
of
that
is
individual
homes
that
have
different
rooms,
garages
and
sheds
rented
out
to
folks
and
and
or
that
might
be.
B
In
particular,
you
can
look
and
see
a
single
family
home,
but
there
might
be
12
to
15
folks
living
in
there
who
are
related
right.
It's
just
family
and
extended
family,
and
so
one
of
the
things
that
we've
learned
with
digital
inclusion
is
that
was
a.
There
was
a
big
stumbling
block
in
getting
folks
signed
up
for
broadband
because
of
the
unusual
living
arrangements
and
and
and
the
lack
of
having
formal
leases
in
these
types
of
living
situations,
and
so
that's
a
concern
for
me.
B
I
just
wanted
to
red
flag
that
in
looking
at
charging
stations,
who
is
that
going
to
be
you
know?
How
can
we
make
that
available
for
families
that
may
have
you
know
a
lot
of
cars
in
that
one
household
right
and
in
many
neighborhoods
you
can
see
the
cars
piled
up
in
the
front
lawn
and
getting
very
creative
with
parking
solutions,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
red
flag
that
to
in
talking
about
the
used
market.
B
One
of
the
things
you
know
a
lot
of
folks,
particularly
in
in
my
district,
do
is,
is
work
on
their
own
cars
right
or
go
to
a
neighbor
or
family
member
who
can
fix
your
car
for
you,
you
just
go,
buy
the
part,
and
you
know
change
your
own
brakes
or
whatever
right
and
so
on,
an
electric
car
or
even
any
modern
car
that
comes,
but
particularly
in
an
electric
car
that
becomes
a
much
more
complicated
thing.
I
certainly
wouldn't
do
it
I'd
be
afraid
to
so.
B
So
I
think
you
know
talking
about
the
maintenance,
educating
people
on
the
maintenance
of,
particularly
on
a
used
electric
vehicle.
What
does
that
look
like?
I
think
there
are
a
lot
of
concerns
about
that
and
so
being
able
to
address.
That
would
be
really
helpful,
and-
and
so
I
will-
I
will
leave
it
at
that.
I
do
want
to
have
more
conversations
about
the
sites
the
charging
station
sites
in
east
san
jose.
I
believe
councilmember
carrasco
and
my
office
had
sent
some
addresses
last.
B
I
have
covered
brain,
so
I
think
it
was
last
year
the
end
of
2019.
I
can't
remember,
but
when
we
had
these
discussions,
we
sent
some
addresses
of
big
shopping
centers,
and
I
believe
that
we
had
also
my
office
had
also
sent
some
information
about
just
kind
of
big
apartment
complexes
and
maybe
talking
with
the
owners
of
property
management
companies
for
some
of
these
big
developments
as
a
way
for
them
to
offer
this
as
an
amenity,
but
really
start
to
build
that
infrastructure.
I
I
Preparation
for
the
future,
and
I'm
glad
that
ramses
mentioned
gm.
I
was
going
to
mention
that,
and
the
announcement
last
week
from
gm
was
a
huge
announcement.
Basically
is
signaling
the
fact
that
there
really
will
be
no
option
in
other
for
new
cars
other
than
to
buy
electric
vehicles
in
the
future,
and
so
our
city
being
ahead
of
the
curve
and
having
an
infrastructure
across
the
city.
For
that
eventuality.
I
I
But,
but
actually
you
know
to
one
of
the
councilmembers
bars
those
points
there,
there's
almost
no
maintenance
cost
to
having
electric
vehicles,
so
people
won't
be
having
to
do
the
oil
changes
in
their
front
yard,
because
there
are
no
oil
changes
to
do
there,
there's
very
little
maintenance
cost.
So
if
people
learn
that
there
there's
a
there
are
major
financial
benefits
to
having
electric
vehicles
that
people
aren't
even
aware
of.
So
I
think
that
we
can
do
a
lot
through
that
education
program.
I
One
of
my
questions
about
that
infrastructure
that
I'd
like
to
see
maybe
tracked
in
the
future
is,
is
how
our
utilization
of
that
charging
infrastructure
is.
We
see
some
maybe
data
on
how
those
charging
stations
are
being
used
in
various
locations
across
the
city
and
maybe
with
time
is
there
a
growth
in
utilization?
I
For
example,
I
noticed
that
you
know
there
was
in
the
in
the
supporting
material
list
of
locations
where,
for
example,
vw
put
in
the
charging
stations-
and
I
know
in
one
of
the
shopping
centers
in
d4
I'd
seen
a
year
ago,
those
charging
stations
were
put
in
I've,
never
seen
a
vehicle
at
any
one
of
them.
I
know
in
other
places
across
the
city
there,
some
of
the
times
these
charging
stations
are
completely
full.
I
So
I'm
curious
as
to
where
they're
being
used
where
they're
not
you
know
what
kind
of
traffic
there
is
for
those,
and
what
kind
of
you
need
there
is
for
various
for
growth
from
the
various
parts
of
the
city
in
in
that
infrastructure.
My
other
question
now
is
also
about
the
city
fleet.
So
on
that,
on
that
slide,
you
talked
about
the
replacement
of
the
city
fleet.
I
The
city
has
a
budget
of
an
allocation
of
10.3
million
dollars
to
replace
vehicles,
and
I
wasn't
clear
to
me:
is
that
that's
a
total
replacement
budget
or
that's
just
an
ev
replacement
budget,
and
it
sounds
like
this
year.
Your
plan
is
to
spend
692
000
of
that
budget.
On
19
vehicles,
does
that
mean
the
rest
of
that
budget
is
getting
carried
over
to
future
years?
C
Yes,
council,
member
and
vice
chair
cohen,
walter
lynn,
with
public
works.
I
can
help
answer
that
question
yeah,
the
10.3
million
dollars.
Roughly
that's
been
allocated
it's
just
for
this
fiscal
year.
That
is
a
combination
of
general
fund
as
well
as
special
fund
dollars
for
various
fleet
replacements.
C
The
larger
of
that
I
believe
it's
8.9
million
is
from
special
funding
and
that
can
include
police
vehicles,
the
heavier
duty
fire
apparatuses,
those
that
may
not
have
electric
equivalents
at
this
time
in
going
through
the
process
and
looking
at
all
of
the
vehicles
that
are
due
for
replacement
this
year,
19
of
those
was
designated
as
feasible
and
hence
the
692
thousand
dollar
allocation.
That
is
just
for
the
one
current
fiscal
year
in
fiscal
year,
2021.
C
as
future
years
come
about.
There
is
a
different
allocation
for
general,
funded
fleet
and
special
funded
fleet,
and
then
we
get
the
requests
from
the
different
departments
in
terms
of
what
is
needing
for
replacement.
Then
our
team
goes
through
the
evaluation.
What
is
a
feasible
and
equivalent
electric
vehicle
that
can
be
replaced
and
that
we
go
through
the
procurement
process
at
that
point?
But
yes,
it's!
It's
the
total
allocation
and
just
the
subset
only
because
this
is
what's
available
in
the
marketplace
at
this
point.
I
Is
there
an
opportunity
to
hold
off
on
some
of
those,
because
we
know
that
there
might
be
opportunities
coming
soon?
My
my
interest
is
in
you
know,
trying
to
get
as
many
of
them
converted
to
electric
as
soon
as
possible.
I'm
just
wondering:
is
there
a
way
to
to
re-allocate
that
funding
to
try
to
accelerate
the
conversion
in
some
instances
and
hold
off
on
others?
I
I
understand
when
we're
at
end
of
life
on
some
vehicles,
I'm
just
concerned
about
replacing
with
new
vehicles
that
then
delay,
because
now
we
wait
till
the
end
of
the
life,
those
vehicles
and
and
20
years
out
we're
still.
We
still
have
you
know
the
gas
vehicles,
because
we
haven't
done
the
replacement.
C
Yes,
very
good
point
customer
cohen,
so,
yes,
we
are
approaching
that
in
two
different
prongs.
The
first
prong
is
for
those
vehicles
that
are
end
of
life
and
maybe
are
not
safe
to
keep
in
our
fleets.
We
are
doing
our
very
best
to
determine
what's
available
and
converting
those
to
electric.
If
available.
C
C
The
green
fleet
is
a
policy
adjustment
and
amendment
that
we're
making
where
it
indicates.
We
are
looking
at
any
types
of
vehicles
where
we
can
go
electric
first
of
all,
options
we're
looking
at
fully
electric
at
first,
that's
something
that,
even
though
the
policy
itself
hasn't
been
adjusted,
we
already
committing
ourselves
and
that's
our
current
practice
for
the
vehicle
replacement
policy.
There
is
criteria
where
certain
vehicles
must
meet
a
certain
age
or
certain
mileage
before
it's
considered
for
replacement.
C
The
adjustments
that
we're
making
to
that
policy
is
to
be
a
little
bit
more
flexible,
having
either
a
lesser
amount
of
years
or
a
lesser
amount
of
mileage
before
it
could
be
considered
for
replacement
and
that
helped
us
speed.
Greening
the
fleet
in
that
fashion,
as
well
obvious
we're
looking
at
a
couple,
different
approaches
to
to
quicken
the
process
and
get
more
fleet
to
be
green.
I
Okay,
I
appreciate
that
because
we
know
that
that
you
know
the
the
the
clean
air
benefits
the
climate
benefits,
there's
a
lot
of
benefits
to
greening
that
fleet.
Even
if
there's
you
know,
we
have
to
move
forward
some
of
those
replacements,
and
I
think
that
would
be
important
for
us
as
a
city
to
consider.
J
J
They
were
part
of
the
program,
the
lowest
one
was
before
any
discounts
was
thirty,
one
thousand
one
hundred
and
forty.
That
was,
for
the
kia,
niro
plug-in,
hybrid
electric
and
then
going
up
as
high
as
39
thousand
ninety
dollars.
For
the
curio,
you
know
all
electric
vehicle
and
the
average
cost
was
around
35
000.
J
J
My
my
prius
hybrid
is
still
running
very
well,
and
so
I'm
curious
a
couple
of
things
number
one
which
was
on
the
the
promotion
of
it
on
maybe
demographics
that
we
were
targeting
or
maybe
demographics
that
we
hit.
If
we
have
those
numbers-
and
we
have
the
total
number
of
individuals-
and
we
did-
you
did
mention
about
the
low
income
kind
of
status,
but
just
curious
on
on
how
we
promoted
that
and
then
what
some
of
the
demographics
look
like.
F
Yeah,
unfortunately,
excuse
me
my
colleague,
who
ran
the
programs
on
the
called
me,
and
I
can
I
can
follow
you
with
more
details.
But
I
do
recall
is
that
we
did
promotion
not
to
our
own
employees,
but
also
to
santa
clara
county's
employees,
and
we
also
partnered
with
kaiser
permanente,
and
I
think
there
were
a
few
other
large
employers
we
promoted
the
program
to.
We
knew
because
there's
a
new
cars
that
a
lot
of
people
will
be
priced
on
the
market,
even
with
the
discounts
that
were
available.
J
Yeah,
I
think
you
know,
certainly
that
would
be
of
interest
to
me
on
on
looking
at
that
opportunity,
expanding
that
as
well.
How
did
we
come
to
the
selection
of
of
who
it
was
that
we
worked
with
to
do
outreach
to,
and
why
wasn't
there
necessarily,
you
know
more
other
organizations
that
we
that
we
partnered
with.
F
F
Again,
they
don't
have
the
details
on
that.
I
know
we
provided
information
to
the
dealers.
We
actually
organized
a
training
program
for
the
dealers
in
all
of
these
dealerships,
at
least
one
people
from
all
the
dealerships
that
were
interested
in
participating,
emily's
joining
us
great,
where
she
walked
them
through
a
lot
of
the
background
information
about
electric
vehicles
and
provide
them
information
that
they
could
then
pass
on
to
their
to
their
clients
or
potential
clients.
Emily
do
you
want
to
jump
in
here?
Did
you.
J
K
J
Yeah
no
worries
thanks
for
jumping
in
so
the
question
was
in
regards
to
maybe
assistance
on
the
ground.
I
was
asking:
how
were
customers
able
to
get
access
to
those
grants
and
laura
was
mentioning
that
the
dealers
were
informed
of
obviously
the
the
grant,
but
I
was
just
kind
of
curious
if,
if
a
customer
say
that
we
had
partnered
with
their
organization,
you
know
knew
about
it
and
they
came
forward
was.
K
Yeah,
so
there
were
two
separate
programs
over
the
summer
that
we
were
overseeing,
one
was
drive
electric
and
drive,
and
the
second
was
drive
forward.
I
think
laura,
probably
reviewed
both
of
them
so
for
the
drive
forward
program
we
were
working
with
or
targeting
low-income
households
in
san
jose
and
working
with
a
non-profit
called
peninsula
family
service
based
out
of
the
peninsula,
and
they
assisted
about
70
or
so
individuals.
K
As
part
of
our
workshop
programs,
the
drive
forward
workshop
programs,
one
to
kind
of
just
review,
ev101
kind
of
know-how.
You
know
where
to
charge
what
kind
of
electric
vehicles
are
on
the
market
today
etc,
and
then
the
second
piece
of
that
and
a
big
focus
of
those
workshops
was
helping
those
individuals
to
navigate
grants
and
incentives
that
are
available
locally
and
at
the
state
level
as
well,
so
we
yeah.
So
it
was
about
so
many
workshop
participants
and
we
had
200
or
so
people
sign
up
and
then
about.
K
42
individuals
did
one-on-one
financial
counseling
following
those
workshops
alongside
peninsula
family
service.
So
we
had
about
two
staff
on
hand
following
the
workshops
to
help
individuals
who
were
kind
of
further.
You
know
interested
in
getting
help
and
navigating
those
grants
and
incentives,
because
they
can
be
quite
tricky
to
figure
out
on
your
own.
K
J
E
That
wasn't
part
of
our
program
in
terms
of
us
funding.
Any
extra
you
know
like
the
cash
for
clunkers
program
under
the
obama
era.
Push
for
that
we're
not
we
weren't
resourced
at
that
level
for
this
right,
but
we,
you
know
they
could
still
turn
their
cars
in
and
get
their
their
their
their
normal
buyback,
but
that
would
obviously
just
create
a
second
used
market
for
that
car.
K
And
ramsay
I'll
just
add.
We
actually
had
one
confirmed
individual
through
the
drive
forward
workshop,
who
ultimately
applied
for
the
clean
cars
for
all
program,
which
is
the
cash
for
clunkers.
So
they
had
a
model
older
than
2005
and
they
were
actually
just
in
the
last
two
weeks
pulled
off
of
the
wait
list
for
clean
cars
for
all
and
should
hopefully
be
getting
a
9
500
grant.
So
that
was
just
kind
of
one
confirmed,
instance
of
of
an
individual,
taking
advantage
of
the
bacned
program.
L
L
Electrical
electric
vehicles
in
the
long
run
can
be
less
expensive,
as
council
member
cohn
mentioned,
to
operate
because
you're
not
changing
oil
you're,
not
changing
air
filters.
Things
like
that
and
you're,
not
stopping
at
a
gas
station
and
filling
up
every
time.
You
need
to
fill
up
your
gas,
but
you
do
need
access
to
electricity
and
to
council
member
esparza's
point
if
you
don't
have.
L
If
you
don't
live
in
a
single
family
home
or
an
apartment
that
has
ev
stations,
getting
access
to
those
charging
stations
is
difficult
and
it
can
be
expensive
if
you're
paying
to
some
in
some
of
these
providers
of
power
are
not
cheap.
So
we
need
to
make
sure
that
we're
educating
the
public
on
the
use
and
ease
of
an
ev
vehicle,
because
it
is
different.
It's
very
different
to
drive
an
electric
field
vehicle
than
it
is
to
drive
a
gas
powered
automobile.
L
L
L
The
rest
that
were
listed
in
the
background
were
were
for
our
employees.
What
consideration
do
we
have?
I
know
council
member
esparza
mentioned
some
locations
of
public
locations,
but
what
efforts
are
we
looking
to
expand
our
capabilities
for
charging
stations
outside
of
just
happy
hollow
for
the
public.
E
So
I'll
make
a
general
comment
on
that
and
let
laura
have
any
details
in
terms
of
where
we're
going
with
specific
things,
but
you
know
step
being
kind
of
really
high
up
right.
The
auto
market
is
changing
and
the
auto
market
is
changing
at
this
point
on
its
own
and
we're
we're
playing
kind
of
guidance.
You
know
bumper
bumpers
a
little
bit
to
that
market
as
much
as
we
can
to
drive
the
market
so
that
it
can
benefit
folks.
E
You
can't
afford
tesla's
and
and
and
lexus
versions
of
these
kinds
of
cars
as
soon
as
possible,
right
and
and
with
that
being
said,
our
ability
to
be
the
supplier
of
chargers
of
note
will
never
be
the
we'll,
never
be
the
provider
of
these
things
in
mass
right.
We
we
were
in
early
adopters,
help
in
terms
of
getting
the
technology
out
on
the
ground
and
getting
them
out
there.
F
That
means
it's
going
to
be
more
widely
distributed
and
all
of
those
charges
need
to
be
accessible
to
the
public,
so
that
will
make
a
huge
impact.
This
course
is
not
going
to
solve
the
entire
problem,
but
it
does
go
a
big
chunk
of
the
way
there.
We
also
have
evgo
and
electrify
america
who
are
continuing
to
install
chargers
in
the
city
I
mentioned
in
memo
the
the
the
several
clusters
in
electric
by
america,
which
is
vw.
It's
the
arm
of
ew,
that's
that's!
F
Settling
the
emissions
scandal
is
they've
made
san
jose
one
of
the
metropolitan
areas
that
they've
been
focusing
on
for
a
number
of
years
and
there's
no
there's
no
decision
to
end
that.
So
we
anticipate
that
that
elected
by
america
we're
putting
in
more
fast
chargers
in
the
city
as
well
and
they've,
also
complemented-
and
this
is
a
compliment
to
our
planning
staff.
The
the
way
that
the
city's
planning
staff
has
accelerated.
That
problem,
that
process
that
they
have
used
the
city
as
an
example
to
other
cities
in
the
state.
L
Great
thank
you
and
and
through
policy
last
year,
and
I
think,
the
year
before
we
implemented
new
construction
multi-family
units
to
have
more
charging
stations
and
commercial
properties
in
for
construction
to
have
more
ev
stations.
So
that's
that
will
help
new
construction,
but
it
doesn't
help
existing
construction.
So
I
I
appreciate
all
of
that.
There
was
also
some
background.
Information
about
investigating
the
possibility
of
private
operators
on
public
property
is
there
that
seems
like
a
good
idea,
but
is
there
going
to
be
a
financial
benefit
to
the
city?
For
that?
F
But
what
we
can
do
is
use
our
pro
our
properties
strategically,
where
the
market
is
not
going,
and
perhaps
we
have
a
community
center
or
a
library
where
we
could
locate
a
charter
that
could
make
a
huge
difference
to
the
neighborhood
around
that
location
and
emily's
gonna
be
working
with
other
departments
who
also
manage
facilities,
not
just
d.o.t,
to
figure
out
what
those
locations
are
where
it
would
be
appropriate,
potentially
to
put
or
to
allow
somebody
else
to
put
a
charger
in
there
and
under
what
conditions.
We
would
allow
that
to
happen.
F
What
did
we
charge
if
we
would
be
willing
to
reduce
the
amount
of
money
we
would
charge
if
they
has
an
additional
benefit
to
us,
such
as
providing
lower
cost
charging
for
low
income
users?
So
those
are
the
kinds
of
things
that
emily
is
going
to
be
taking
to
lead
on
in
the
next
few
months
to
see
what
what
kind
of
package
you
can
put
together
to
bring
to
pound
to
council.
For
your
consideration
at
least
anything
you'd
want
to
add.
K
No,
I
think,
you've
covered
it.
I
think
just
one
thing,
perhaps
that
I'll
add
is
we're
trying
to
do
it
in
a
way
that
it
also
kind
of
is,
is
in
line
and
kind
of
that
policy
is
being
developed
and
parallel
to
the
emerging
mobility
action
plan.
So
we
kind
of
are
you
know,
as
through
that
planning
process
and
community
engagement
process
also
identifying
locations?
Where
these
you
know,
third-party
private,
you
know
dc
fast
charging
or
level
two
charging
stations
might
be
suitable.
K
You
know,
given
the
proximity
to
perhaps
you
know,
multi-family
dwelling
units
that
that
can
accommodate
charging.
You
know
because
of
you
know
the
shared
parking
facilities.
You
know
kind
of
various
factors
that
we're
having
to
think
through.
You
know
when
a
household
is
you
know
when
the
residences
aren't
single-family
homes.
There
are
instances
where
you
know
a
private
non-you
know
personal
charging
station
might
be
appropriate.
So
we're
trying
to
think
through
all
those
questions
as
we're
designing
this
policy.
Come
this
spring
great.
Thank
you.
I.
L
Appreciate
that
one
final
question,
or
maybe
comment
is
around
the
one-way
shared
vehicles
and
the
permit
the
use
of
a
permit
parking
or
use
of
parking
metered
parking
for
up
to
72
hours.
While
that
may
seem
like
a
good
idea
right
now
under
covid,
while
none
of
us
are
out
and
about
and
going
to
restaurants,
I
have
a
very
big
concern
of
that
occurring
in
the
place
like
japan,
town,
where
parking
is
very
difficult
and
you're
using
meter
parking
where
someone
is
taking
up
a
parking
space
for
72
hours.
L
So
I
would
encourage
us
to
before
we
roll
anything
out
like
that,
and
I
know
it
will
come
to
council
for
that,
but
we'd
be
very
thoughtful
about
taking
up
parking
spaces
that
are
are
non
non.
One
way
users
are
going
to
be
needing
access
to
on
more
of
a
rotating
basis
and
not
just
the
parking,
but
how
that
will
turn
over
for
the
vendor,
the
restaurants
and
vendors
who
are
and
people
who
are
benefiting
from
that
turnover
of
that
parking
space.
So
with
that,
I
really
appreciate
being
a
part
of
this
new
committee.
E
Yeah
I'll
just
really
briefly
touch
on
it.
So
we
will
be
discussing
that
in
great
detail
when
we
bring
this
item
to
council,
but
I
just
to
give
a
little
bit
of
forethought
and
and
some
things
to
chew
on
one,
that's
a
maximum
and
and
the
business
itself
would
would
would
die
on
the
vine
if
that
became
a
consistent
practice
right
and
so
there's
there's
both
a
business
and
a
public
reason
which
is
totally
the
one
you're.
E
You
know
absolutely
the
one
you're
pointing
out,
and
so
we're
very
aware
of
that,
and
and
we
will
say
that
all
of
the
other
cities
we've
done
research
on
have
similar
or
even
longer
allowances
for
it.
But
we
certainly
hear
that
consideration.
I've
spent
a
lot
of
time
thinking
through
how
to
make
sure
that
that
one
there's
enough
leeway
to
make
the
business
work,
but
also
enough
tightness
to
kind
of
keep
the
parking
supply
and
exactly
what
it's
supposed
to
do,
which
is
turn
over
as
quickly
as
possible.
D
F
D
D
Okay,
so
we're
not
at
100
renewable
for
our
electric
fleet,
even
if
we,
even
if
we're
fully
electrified
we're
not
at
100
renewable.
I
just
want
to
make
that
clear
when
you
come
back
to
the
council
on
the
green
fleet
policy,
will
you
be
talking
about
going
total
green
for
for
our
chargers
on
public
property?
C
Council,
member
davis,
walter
lewin
public
works
for
the
particular
green
fleet
policy.
It
is
more
aligned
with
the
procurement
and
the
use
of
electric
vehicles
at
the
charging
stations
fuel
source,
as
zach
and
laura
mentioned
within
municipal
facilities,
we're
already
on
the
san
jose
clean
energy
program,
the
different
tiers,
though,
and
the
level
of
green,
that
that
is
something
that
we
can
reference,
but
the
the
main
intent
of
the
policy
amendment
is
just
for
the
procurement
of
the
chargers
and
the
fleet
vehicles
themselves.
D
D
I
I
understand
that
there
are
especially
the
heavier
duty
trucks
they're
not
likely
to
go
electric.
They
may
never
go
electric
I've
been
reading
more
and
more
about
hydrogen
as
as
a
source
of
fuel,
and
that
being
it
appears
right
now.
Of
course,
we
we
still
don't
know,
because
it's
not
at
the
market
level
that
electric
vehicles
are,
but
it
appears
more,
that
longer
or
longer
range
vehicles
and
heavier
duty
vehicles
are
more
likely
to
be
hydrogen
fueled.
So
is
that
going
to
be
part
of
our
green
fleet
policy?
Can
we
make
it
more?
C
That
is
a
great
point:
councilmember
davis.
So
what
we've
been
asked
as
a
part
of
a
recommendation
from
the
mayor
and
some
council
members
is
to
look
at
electrification
first,
where
it
makes
sense
for
those
vehicles
or
maybe
there
may
not
be
an
option
for
several
years
or
several
decades.
I
think
our
fleet's
team
focus
is
looking
at
what
other
options
and
alternatives
there
could
be
where
it's
more
made
available.
C
We
are
looking
at
pilot
and
prototypes
as
well
too.
There
are
some
vehicles
where
they
are
moving
towards
alternative
fuels
at
different
types,
as
you
mentioned,
or
maybe
hybrids,
and
if
those
make
sense
and
meet
our
standards
are
available.
Absolutely
we'll.
Consider
those
as
well
too.
We've
been
asked
to
look
at
electrification
first,
but
if
that's
not
available,
we
will
look
at
other
alternatives.
D
Okay,
so
will
the
green
fleet
policy
talk
about
prioritizing
zero
emission
vehicles
for
whether
I
understand
electrification
first,
but
where
that
is
not
feasible,
will
it
talk
about
zero
emission
as
it
being
a
priority,
as
opposed
to
any
specific?
Because
if
it's,
if
it's-
I
guess,
if
it's
gas
powered
hybrid,
I
don't
know
that
that's
better
than
a
hydrogen
fuel
vehicle
right,
that
is,
by
definition,
zero
emission.
C
Yeah
very
good
points.
We
can
make
those
references
as
well
too
and
research.
What
may
be
the
best
alternative,
sustainability
and
environmental
wise
looking
at
what's
available
or
what
might
be
emerging
and
then
making
that
comparison.
Does
it
make
sense
to
go
with
one
fuel
type
or
another
or
waiting
as
councilman
cohen
I
mentioned.
But
yes,
we
can
make
those
references
as
well
too.
D
D
Think
we
need
to
pick
a
winner,
and
I
know
I
made
that
point
when
we
did
when
we
talked
about
all
electric
the
first
time
with
the
green
fleet
policy,
but
it
is
emerging
more
and
more.
I
see
more
and
more
frequently
articles
coming
out
about
hydrogen
power
and
gm
gm
saying
zero
emissions
by
2035.
I
went
back
and
I
read
the
new
york
times,
article
ramses
when
you
mentioned
it,
I
had
seen
it
over
the
weekend
and
they
did
not
say
all
electric.
D
They
said
zero
emissions
very
and
and
what
they
mostly
sell
right
are
trucks
and
suvs.
So
I
think
they're
going
they're
betting
on
hydrogen
fuel
is
my
guess,
and
so
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
have
a
policy
that
can
change
with
the
times
and
to
capital
capitalize
on
whatever
technologies
come
out
that
help
our
environment
the
most.
So
I
I
appreciate
you
taking
those
comments
and
and
looking
looking
at
them
for
for
the
update.
I
have
a
couple
more
questions.
D
Oh,
the
drive
forward
workshops
are
there
plans
for
more
workshops
having
fewer
than
20
people
in
each
of
four
workshops
seems
like
more
of
a
pilot
program
as
opposed
to
okay.
We
did
it
now
we're
done.
What's
what's
the
plan
going
forward,
what
did
you
learn
and
how
are
you
gonna
use,
what
you've
learned
and
I
get
that
it
happened
in
2020,
so
good
on
you
for
doing
them.
K
Duty
brief,
but
it
was
essentially
I
mean
you
think
about
it
as
a
pilot
program,
because
it's
the
first
time
we
were
able
to
do
it
and
it
was
funded
through
the
american
cities,
climate
challenge,
so
we
are
seeking
other
similar
funds
that
could
be
used
flexibly
to
continue
the
program
and
grow
it,
especially
in
a
year.
Hopefully,
people
have
more
bandwidth
and
more
capacity
to
think
about
non-immediate
things
like
what
type
of
car
to
to
pursue.
D
Thank
you,
and
I
would
say
I
I
appreciate
peninsula
family
service.
You
know
stepping
in
and
providing
the
financial
counseling.
It
may
make
sense
as
well
going
forward
to
partner
with
the
nonprofits
that
are
already
literally
in
san
jose
in
our
community
and
have
those
connections
with
people,
as
just
you
know,
adding
to
the
services
that
they
already
provide.
Grail
family
service
comes
to
mind
immediately
when
when,
when
emily
mentioned
peninsula
family
service,
I
was
like,
oh
well.
D
So
I
I
would
be
happy
to
to
spend
more
time
chatting
about
that
offline
by
the
way,
and
then
I
didn't
understand
the
ambassador
program
exactly
how
that
worked
with
the
expanding
ev
ownership.
The
somebody
mentioned
ambassador
program.
I
just
made
a
note
and
a
question
mark,
so
I'm
can
you
say
a
little
bit
more
about
that
sure.
F
It's
still
a
developing
program
with
the
recognition
with
the
program
with
the
workshops
that
we're
done
is
that
that
some
people
are
having
a
problem
getting
from.
I
know
I'm
interested,
I
can
know
what
the
programs
are,
but
actually
completing
the
form
and
here's
where
emily
had
those
conversations.
So
I'd
like
to
defer
to
her
and
helping
to
bridge
that
gap
and
we're
doing
that
in
partnership
with
with
the
program
that
san
jose
clean
energy
is,
is
also
formulating
around
eevee
ambassadors
more
broadly,
but
emily.
K
K
As
you
know,
cultural
brokers
and
ambassadors
of
electric
vehicles
in
san
jose
to
share
their
experiences
and
also
perhaps
to
support
new
individuals
who
are
interested
in
in
you
know,
purchasing
electric
vehicles
to
navigate
that
process
kind
of
on
a
one-on-one
basis.
You
know
to
council
member
davis's
point:
we
want
to
be
working
with
members
in
our
community
and
and
community-based
organizations
in
our
community
to
be
helping
households,
individuals
walk
through
what
is
right
now,
a
very
complex
process,
time-consuming
process.
K
So
it's
it's
still
early
days
for
that,
but
we,
you
know:
we've
formulated
a
great
partnership
with
san
jose,
clean
energy.
You
know
we
really
enjoy
working
together
and
I
think
this
is
kind
of
a
next
next
step
for
for
the
two
departments
to
kind
of
launch
that
program
as
part
of
our
continued
ev
programmatic
work.
D
Right,
I
think
that's
a
awesome
idea
to
use
the
drive
forward
workshop
completers
to
become
ambassadors.
I
think
that
makes
a
ton
of
sense
and
they
can
also
give
feedback
on.
You
know
what
wasn't
in
the
workshop
that
they
learned
along
the
way
right
to
help
inform
the
the
workshop
and
improve
that
over
time.
Thank
you
appreciate
that,
and
then
one
question
on
the
the
one-way
shared
vehicles.
First
of
all,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
understand
what
a
one-way
shared
vehicle
is
in
this
context.
D
D
I
just
want
to
make
sure
it
wasn't
it
wasn't
described.
So
I
want
to
make
sure
I
understand
that
that's
what
it
is
like
you
don't
have
to
have
it's
not
like
zip
car
or
something
like
that
where
it's
something
where,
if
you
have
the
app
it
would
just
open
and
you
would
be
able
to
drive
the
car
and
leave
it
and
then
somebody
else
could
take
it.
While
you
were
at
your
shop
or
whatever.
F
Correct
you've
got
the
idea.
The
only
distinction
I
would
make
is
that
because
scooters
don't
go
that
far
distance,
they
already
actually
have
a
service
area,
but
with
a
car
you
can
travel
much
further
that
these
operate
within
some
designated
service
area.
So
you
could
take
them
outside
that
zone.
But
when
you
end
your
reservation,
you
have
to
be
within
the
zone
so
that
way,
they're
constantly
floating
within
that
zone
and
available
for
other
people.
D
Okay,
thank
you.
That's
helpful.
When
you
bring
it
back
to
council,
I
think
it
would
be
really
helpful
to
have
that
kind
of
description.
Just
because
I
I
didn't
catch
that
from
the
I
and
I'm
sure
you
said
it,
because
now
that
you're
saying
zone
again,
you
did
mention
something
about
zone,
but
I
had
never.
This
is
a
new
concept
for
me
and
I
didn't
put
that
together.
So
I
I
appreciate
that
so
how
many
to
council
member
foley's
question
about
the
the
meters?
D
How
many
permits
are
we
talking
about
allowing
to
start
out
with?
Are
we
going
to
start
out
with
a
pilot
and
have
a
certain
number
of
permits,
or
is
this
kind
of
going
to
be
we're
just
going
to
set
the
permit
fee
at
a
per
vehicle
cost
and
then
see
what
happens
with
the
market?
What's
the
what's
the
plan?
For
that
sure
it.
F
Would
be
per
vehicle
for
the
most
part?
There
are
some
fees
that
are
per
applicant,
but
mostly
the
fees
are
per
per
vehicle,
both
companies
when
they
were
originally
expressed,
interests
and
comments.
The
city
said
that
they
would
would
come
with
an
initial
area,
so
they
wouldn't
call
it
a
pilot,
but
they
would
start
small
and
the
extent
of
their
success
will
keep
growing.
That
and
both
indicated,
both
the
moped
company
and
the
car
company
indicated
about
150
to
200
vehicles
in
an
area.
It's
about
10
square
miles.
F
Each
of
them
we're
talking
about
150
vehicles,
that
was
the
moped
and
200
was
the
car
company
in
an
area
approximately
10
square
miles.
Now
we're
in
covin
period
and
they're
re
they're
learning
how
to
operate
in
this
this
environment,
and
hopefully,
by
the
time
they
come
they'll,
be
in
a
place
where
it'll
be
more
like
host
covid.
So
it
remains
to
be
seen
what
they
wind
up
doing
and
where
they
wind
up
deploying.
But
their
initial
idea
was
when
we're
still
the
beginning
of
kobe
was.
This
is
how
they
started
in
other
cities.
E
Okay,
I
think
it's
important
to
point
out
that
they
would
be
paying
for
any
of
this
parking
that
they
would
be
using.
So
it's
not
like
we're
giving
them
a
permit
to
just
park
there,
and
the
permit
covers
that
parking
fee.
They
would
be
paying
in
proportion
to
what
a
normal
vehicle
would
pay
in
that
parking
space.
So
I
think
that's
a
really
important
part
to
kind
of
yeah
just
ensure
like
we're
not
losing
city
funds
on
this.
We're
definitely
and
we're
motivating
the
system
highly
to
get
the
car
moving.
D
Maybe
that's
fine,
japan,
town,
that's
not
fine
and
it's
already
hard,
sometimes
to
find
to
find
parking
in
in
normal
times.
I
mean
I
can't
remember
the
last
time
I
was
there
but
to
find
parking
in
japan
town
even
at
a
meter.
So
I
don't
know
if,
if,
if
we
want
to
say
72
hours
or
if
we
want
to
say,
for
you
know,
48
hours
or
24
hours
or
maybe
japan
town
is
different
than
downtown,
because
there
are
fewer
options
for
parking
down
there.
D
D
I
Care
about
the
order-
that's
fine,
just
a
quick
comment
that,
since
you
mentioned
hydrogen
hydrogen
fuel
cells,
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
look
at
all
the
all
the
possible
technologies.
Obviously,
when
you
bring
the
report
back,
our
ultimate
goal
should
be
electric,
where
possible
and
hold
off
on
any.
You
know
potential
plan
for
anything
other
than
electric,
but
certainly
I
think
it's
true
that
the
big
vehicle
they're
talking
about
potentially
for,
like
even
airplanes
and
long-haul
trucks,
that
hydrogen
may
be
the
solution.
I
My
suspicion
is
that
for
many
other
vehicles,
electric
will
be
an
option
in
the
future,
and
certainly
we,
I
think
it's
true-
that
electric
will
probably
be
the
only
you
know-
potential
for
zero
emission
from
source
to
finish,
because
hydrogen
actually
can
be
really
expensive
when
it
comes
to
generating
the
hydrogen
fuel
itself.
So
but
yeah
we
ought
to.
B
E
B
Hundred
different
ways,
especially
since
the
pandemic,
I
the
peninsula
family
service,
is,
has
a
background
in
this.
I've
worked
with
them
in
previous
lives
and
so
they're
really
well
known
in
how
to
help
folks
access
vehicles,
and
so
I
think
that
you
know
they're
pretty
used
to
working
with
sort
of
a
panoply
of
non-profits
to
be
that
sort
of
financial
backbone.
B
But
I
just
wanted
to
amplify
that
message
because
I
I
do
think
it's
important,
especially
when
we're
we're
looking
to
to
outreach
to
folks
and
whether
it's
an
ambassador
program
or
something
else,
to
really
leverage
those
existing
relationships
and-
and
we
can
do
that,
while
still
keeping
peninsula
family
service
there
as
a
as
the
backbone
but
to
really
build
on
those
partnerships.
Thank
you.
D
D
N
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
talk
about
our
residential
recycling
and
garbage
services
and
valerie's,
going
to
pull
up
the
slides,
but
I'll
go
ahead
and
and
get
us
started.
I'm
joined
today
by
valerie
osmond
valerie
is
our
deputy
director
leading
our
integrated
waste
management
division
and
jenny.
Loft
is
our
public
information
manager
for
for
the
department,
as
some
of
you
may
recall.
N
In
last
year
we
took
on
the
in-sourced
outreach
for
recycle
plus
into
city
services,
and
we
did
that
because
there
was
sort
of
a
shared
council
and
staff
perspective
that
the
community
expected
that
there
to
be
more
outreach
on
recycling
because
of
the
dramatic
impact
it
can
have
on
their
rates,
as
well
as
the
success
of
the
program
so
dollar.
If
we
go
the
next
slide.
So
as
a
reminder,
though,
our
recycling,
our
garbage
and
recycling
services
are
divided
into
three
districts
throughout
the
city.
N
District,
a
and
c
for
recycling
are
serviced
by
california.
Waste
solutions
and
a
and
c
for
garbage
is
serviced
by
garden.
City,
sanitation
and
green
team
serves
district
b
as
well
as
all
multi-family
and
city
facilities,
and
then
greenway
serves
the
entire
city
for
our
loose
in
the
street
and
other
yard
waste.
So
we
are
super
proud
of
this
program
and
you
know
our
recycling
has
done
well
over
over
the
last
few
decades,
but
covid
as
it
has
been
for
many
city
services,
has
had
a
dramatic
impact
on
this
particular
service.
N
So
we
thought
it
would
make
sense
to
bring
some
of
that
data
to
you
to
understand
kind
of
what's
happening
at
the
curb
and
then
as
we
dive
into
the
particulars.
Just
remember.
This
is
the
one
service
that
the
city
provides
that
we
meet
every
resident
at
their
house
every
week,
so
we're
at
every
residential
single
family
every
week
and
then
multifamily,
sometimes
more
than
once
a
week,
so
lots
of
people
to
impact
in
terms
of
behavior
change,
but
certainly
lots
of
ways
to
engage
our
community
on
the
environmental
front.
H
These
four
contractors
and
we
are
working
on
extending
their
contracts.
An
additional
15
years,
starting
in
july
out
to
2036.
unique
to
san
jose's
programs,
are
our
unlimited
yard,
trimmings
and
recycling
collection
and
our
very
successful.
Unlimited
large
item
collection
and
that's
available
at
no
additional
charge
to
our
residents
since
2008
residential
garbage
is
sorted
by
green
waste
and
green
waste
extracts,
clean,
recyclables
and
also
organics
and
food
waste,
which
is
composted.
H
H
It's
increased,
single-use
disposables
like
takeout
containers,
personal
protective
equipment
and
plastic
bags,
and,
as
carrie
mentioned.
Despite
these
challenges,
these
services
have
continued,
uninterrupted
and
compared
to
other
u.s
programs
and
there's
other
cities
that
have
been
scaling
back
or
have
had
to
halt
some
of
their
solid
waste
services.
H
Our
service
providers
have
continuously
adapted
to
the
recycling
market,
which
we'll
talk
about
in
a
couple
of
slides,
and
we
have
our
public
outreach,
which
has
pivoted
to
more
online
tactics,
which
jenny
will
be
talking
about
later
in
our
presentation
prior
to
2020
single-family
garbage
increased
steadily
each
year
on
average
by
about
two
percent.
Each
year.
Over
the
last
five
years,
san
jose's
population
has
grown
by
about
one
percent
and
our
recycling
tons
collected
has
been
a
little
bit
more
volatile,
so
residents
behavior
changes
over
time,
but
on
average
we've
been
seeing.
H
H
Okay,
these
graphs
compare
daily
tons
collected
before
and
after
shelter
and
place
orders,
so
this
information
is
based
on
the
same
time
periods
april
through
december
in
2019
and
2020
junk
pickup,
which
I
mentioned
earlier
large
item
collection,
is
on
the
bottom
right
and
we'd
already
been
seeing
a
lot
of
success
in
this
program
it
used.
It
was
increasing
about
40
percent
per
year
over
the
last
four
years,
since
it
became
a
free
and
unlimited
collection
program
in
fiscal
year
1718.
H
H
This
is
a
large
increase
compared
to
the
gradual
two
percent
increase
that
we've
been
seeing
over
the
last
five
years.
This
is
due
largely
to
residents
disposing
of
more
waste
at
home
instead
of
at
their
offices
or
at
school,
and
on
the
bottom
left.
You
can
see
the
recycling
times
increased
by
17
as
compared
to
last
year.
So
when
you
consider
that
there
had
been
a
slight
decrease
over
the
last
several
years,
17
percent
is
a
tremendous
increase
of
materials
in
our
recycling
carts.
H
This.
What
we're
measuring
here
is
the
tons
that
are
collected
at
the
curb
before
it's
sorted,
so
this
is
attributed
to
many
things.
It
can
include
residents
ordering
a
lot
of
things
online,
generating
a
lot
more
packaging
and
unfortunately,
we
are
also
seeing
a
lot
more
contamination.
So
that's
material,
that's
in
the
recycling
carts.
That
is
not
recyclable.
H
H
H
H
China's
national
sword,
which
started
in
2017,
dramatically
impacted
the
export
of
recyclables,
mainly
plastics
from
the
us.
China
has
enforced
much
stricter
policies,
accepting
only
very
clean
materials
and
rejecting
loads
from
the
u.s.
China
stopped
accepting
u.s
paper,
scrap
or
I'm
sorry,
plastic,
scrap
and
mixed
paper,
and
they
are
planning
to
ban
recovered
paper
in
2021.
H
A
That's
the
data
driven
recycling
information
website
that
we've
launched
back
in
2019
when
we
took
on
outreach
from
our
haulers
and
so
on
this
site.
There's
there's
over
300
searchable
items
that
users
can
log
on
and
see
what's
recyclable
or
not,
and
according
to
our
new
vendor
or
our
vendor,
we're
seeing
a
growth
in
the
web
traffic
that
about
33
more
than
other
cities,
and
in
this
year
alone,
in
the
calendar
year,
2020
we've
also
seen
doubled
the
web
traffic.
A
A
A
A
And
then
you
see
an
ad
here
on
the
right
about
using
audio
feature
on
your
smartphone
and
then
we,
of
course,
you
see
at
the
bottom,
some
ads
and
spanish
and
vietnamese.
And
of
course
I
wanna.
Thank
you
all
for
some
of
the
council
members
who
are
able
to
participate
in
recording
your
own,
recycle
right
videos
and
sharing
it
through
your
respective
networks.
A
Next
slide,
we've
been
hearing
a
lot
about
inclusion
in
a
lot
of
our
presentations
to
council,
and
certainly
you
can
see
it
here
in
addition
to
advertisements
and
postcards
in
vietnamese
and
spanish,
we're
also
making
sure
that
our
low-income
neighborhoods
are
receiving
this
critical
message
so
on.
The
left
here
is
an
example
of
a
postcard
that
we
sent
to
over
60
000
households
last
august
and
that's
in
english,
spanish
and
vietnamese.
A
The
inclusion
tactics
that
we've
calculated
within
our
communications
team
are
derived
from
the
census
and
and
the
federal
housing
and
urban
development
criteria
for
a
family
of
four
in
santa
clara
county
in
the
middle
there,
where
it
says
number
two,
is
a
screenshot
of
our
three
tips
to
recycle
right,
video
in
vietnamese
and
we've
developed
that
so
that
we
can
place
it
on
on
digital
platforms
such
as
youtube
and
facebook.
It's
also
available
in
spanish.
A
We've
partnered
with
loaves
and
fishes
at
the
bottom.
There
you
see
a
sticker,
we're
working
with
lows
and
fishes,
which
is
a
non-profit
food.
Pantry
organization,
they've
helped
us
placed
over
80
000
stickers
on
their
to-go
meal
containers
that
they
distribute
they
serve
some
san
jose
residents
and
also
some
of
them
speak
vietnamese
and
spanish,
as
well
as
those
living
in
low-income
areas.
A
A
And
you
see
here
we're
continuing
to
pivot
as
everybody
is
and
and
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
still
creating
a
community
presence.
You
see
here
some
of
our
fabulous
communication
staff
working
to
get
the
bags
that
we've
been
working
with
with
san
jose
library
at
for
their
curbside
express
books
program.
A
You
can
see
the
results
of
that
on
the
bottom
left
with
somebody
picking
up
some
books
and
we
are
also
at
farmer's
market
providing
this
tote
bag
that
talks
about
going
to
our
website
to
get
more
information
about
recycling
right
and
then
I
had
previously
mentioned
the
loaves
and
fishes
partnership.
You
see
that
at
the
top
right
next
slide.
A
I
also
want
to
share
with
you
the
feedback
that
we're
getting
from
our
community
back
in
2019.
As
we
mentioned
when
we
took
on
the
outreach
efforts,
we
created
a
baseline
of
information
with
a
survey
initially
to
gauge
awareness
and
public
awareness
and
behavior
change,
and
in
2020
we
conducted
a
similar
survey
in
the
summer
of
2020..
A
So
the
annual
survey
that
we
provided
included
questions
about
understanding
of
recycling
and
also
behavior
change.
One
of
the
questions
that
we
asked
was
how
often
a
household
participated
in
recycling
at
home
and
this
year
and
compared
to
2019
10
percent
said
that
that
they
did
that
all
the
time
and
then
another
question
was
how
they
would
dispose
of
specific
items
such
as
plastic
bags,
pizza
boxes
and
your
yogurt
cups,
and
this
year
there
was
a
6.7
increase
of
correct
responses
so
that
those
are
really
good
numbers.
H
N
Well,
thank
you
so
committee
members.
One
of
the
reasons
we
just
wanted
to
talk
about
this
topic
was
one
obviously
to
share
with
you
how
we're
reaching
out
to
the
community,
but
also
the
levels
of
contamination,
so
materials
that
are
not
recyclable,
not
program,
materials
that
are
in
the
recycling.
Cart.
The
levels
of
contamination
directly
impact
the
rates,
so
we
weren't,
anticipating
covid.
N
Clearly
that
has
had
a
negative
impact
on
the
quality
of
our
recycled
materials
and
so
as
val
as
valerie
indicated,
we'll
lead
a
study
session
in
in
the
coming
months
to
talk
in
more
detail
about
the
findings
of
the
curbside
audit,
but
but
we
do
expect
there
to
be
an
impact
to
rates
in
the
in
this
coming
july,
one
as
you
may
recall,
recycle
plus.
So
our
residential
recycling
garbage
program
is
regulated
by
prop
218.
N
M
Now
to
add.
You
know,
in
cell
to
injury
that
money
right
now
is
piling
up
in
the
state
general
fund
in
sacramento
and
last
time
I
checked,
we
never
allowed
the
state
to
start
taxing
us
for
a
redemption
they're
supposed
to
be
basically
buying
the
stuff
back
from
us.
100
of
my
containers
come
from
costco
and
90
are
plastic.
So,
as
far
as
I
can
tell,
they
are
potentially
causing
a
fire
hazard
so
question
to
the
chair.
M
Another
solution
could
be
a
redemption
at
the
curb,
potentially
by
appointment,
so
in
front
of
my
house.
You
know
here
it
is.
Please
give
me
my
money,
I'm
not
sure
whether
that
would
be
viable,
and
the
last
comment
I'd
like
to
make
is:
I
did
pay
attention
to
the
notice.
I
was
complaining
about
the
contaminated
containers
and
I've
been
duly
very
carefully
washing.
You
know
all
my
passing
containers
putting
them
before
putting
them
recycling
bin,
but
the
issue.
M
G
Okay,
there's
other
people
chicanos
in
the
latinos
in
this
city
that
don't
contribute
to
those
numbers,
so
they
need
to
be
taxed
at
a
different
rate.
Although
because
you
have
it
all
mapped
out,
you
have
the
the
b
b,
a
section:
okay,
they
need
to
be
taxed
because
they
are
the
primary
contributors
to
this
waste
and
we're,
and
we,
the
the
collective
city
as
a
whole,
is
the
one
that's
flipping
the
bill
for
that
challenge.
No,
we
need
to
tax
you
because
we
have
the
data
to
support
it.
G
Okay,
that's
number
one
number
two
is:
is
that
the
outreach
that
you're
doing
these
people
look
man?
People
are
barely
putting
food
on
the
table.
We
have
relatives
that
are
dying.
I
have
a
very
very
dear
friend
right
now
that
is
sick
with
kobe
she's
wheezing,
I'm
calling
her
and
she's
wheezing.
You
know
so
forgive
us
if
we're
not
online,
you
know
contributing
to
your
surveys
with
regard
to
garbage
dumping,
we're
too
busy
trying
to
survive.
G
I
Thank
you
thanks
for
the
detailed
presentation.
First
of
all,
I
want
to
commend
the
city
and
the
all
of
the
folks
who
work
for
all
those
garbage
recycling
companies
for
the
uninterrupted
service
during
the
last
year.
It's
quite
impressive
that
we've
had
such
good
service
in
san
jose
during
such
difficult
times.
I
did
want
to
ask:
do
we
have
any
any
information
or
data
about
the
health
of
the
people
who
have
been
continuing
to
work
in
those
facilities
and
those
biology
collection
trucks?
N
N
So
our
haulers
and
sorters
have
done
a
fantastic
job,
really
following
the
county's
guidance
and
working
closely
with
the
department
of
public
health.
But
you
know
there
were
service
impacts
and
our
haulers
coordinated
and
collaborated
behind
the
scenes
to
support
one
another
so
that
our
community
would
not
not
be
impacted.
As
valerie
mentioned,
there
were
cities
across
the
state
and
across
the
country
that
that
did
have
to
take
a
break
in
in
services,
and
we
were
fortunate
that
even
even
the
junk
pickup
program
remained
uninterrupted.
I
I
I
I
mean
I
know
it's
hard
to
unwind
processes,
but
I'm
curious
about
what
the
thoughts
are
about
the
best
practices
now
about
how
to
most
efficiently,
recycle
and
get
to
zero
waste.
Given
that
we're
seeing
that
more
and
more
of
our
waste
is
unrecyclable
in
the
current,
the
current
method
of
doing
things.
N
Well,
thank
you.
I
can
say
that
some
of
the
some
of
what
the
industry
believed
was
true
in
the
90s
is
not
really
working
out.
Much
like
we
said
computers
would
make
us
paperless
that
didn't
work
out
really
either.
But
so
you
know
there's
a
couple
things
that
have
happened.
One
is
there's
a
lot
more
stuff.
N
You
know
goldfish
or
pringles,
or
you
know,
bottled
waters
et
cetera,
and
so
there's
just
a
lot
more
stuff
and
there's
a
lot
more
plastic
materials
out
there,
whether
that's
utensils
or
extra
wrapping
around
things
and
and
then
extra
shipping
boxes,
so
we're
seeing
a
lot
more
materials,
and
even
if
you
look
at
you,
know
yogurt
that
has
the
extra
piece
of
film
on
top
so
that
it
stays
sealed.
None
of
that
really
existed.
N
You
know
20
30
40
years
ago,
and
so
we're
seeing
a
lot
more
material
and
there's
not
all
of
that
material
that
could
has
the
potential
to
be
recycled.
Is
actually
being
used
for
future
products,
so
while
it
may
have
the
triangle
that
says
it
has
the
opportunity
to
be
recycled,
it's
not
marketable,
because
no
one
wants
to
use
that
to
make
a
material.
N
So
some
of
the
things
we
need
to
do
or
help
drive
those
markets
domestically,
so
that
we're
not
shipping
things
all
over
the
world
to
be
reused
and
then
ship
back
to
us
and
so
and
then
in
terms
of
sorting
at
the
curb.
The
three
separate
bins
was
a
great
start
because
you,
it
was
obvious
there
were
cans
of
bottles
and
paper,
but
that
was
it
right.
There
wasn't
thin
film
plastic
and
everything
else,
but
also
you
brought
it
to
the
curb
and
your
neighbors
could
see
it.
N
So
people
didn't
hide
things
in
it.
They
didn't
put
and
couldn't
put
extra
bags
of
garbage
in
it.
The
one
container
is
more
efficient
if
what
would
have
been
in
those
three
bins
is
all
that's
in
the
enclosed
bin
because
the
driver
doesn't
have
to
get
out,
so
the
driver
doesn't
have
to
get
out
and
dump
the
material,
and
so
there
were
some
efficiencies
in
that
which
those
efficiencies
result
in
rate
impacts.
N
N
G
I
G
I
I
I
sit
through
this.
I
take
tours
of
all
the
facilities.
I
study
this
and
I-
and
even
I
don't
understand
it,
so
we
talk
about
educating
the
the
resident,
the
user.
I
just
don't
think
it's
possible
anymore
to
educate
the
user.
The
number
of
questions
I
get
from
residents
and
the
questions
I
get
from
neighbors
they
sound.
I
C
N
You
know
one
of
the
reasons.
The
primary
reason
we
have
our
garbage
or
the
black
can
sorted
is
it
gets
out
the
organics.
So,
instead
of
having
a
composting
program,
we
just
kind
of
do
it
for
you,
which
is
more
that
the
san
jose
way
and
there's
100
participation,
but
but
you
know
jenny
if
you
maybe
just
share.
If,
if
I'm,
you
know
I'm
cleaning
up
after
lunch,
how
how
can
I
quickly
find
hey?
I
have
this
container.
F
A
N
And
so
what
we're
and
what
we're
doing
with
the
cart
led
pilot
is
seeing.
Does
that
have
an
impact
right
because
that's
sort
of
an
ongoing
reminder?
You
take
your
your
your
recyclables
from
the
house
out
to
wherever
you
store
your
your
bins
and
there's
that
reminder
on
it.
So
we'll
do
some
pre
pre-lid
pilot
surveying
and
then
post
lid
pilot
surveying
compared
to
other
neighborhoods
that
didn't
have
the
lids
to
see.
Is
that
helpful
or
not?
N
But
we
we
do
need
to
figure
out
a
better
solution
and,
admittedly,
we're
not
100
there,
but
but
we're
making
good
progress.
We're
still
doing
better
than
most
cities,
and
but
kova
did
did
sort
of
confuse
some
of
the
data,
which
is
why
we
think
a
study
session
makes
sense
to
talk
more
intimately
about
what's
happening
in
our
own
city.
I
All
right
and
two
more
things
one.
You
mentioned
that
a
lot
of
people,
because
they're
filling
up
their
garbage
cans
and
putting
garbage
in
the
recycling
plan
just
as
a
way
of
getting
rid
of
it,
and
I
know
that
the
goal
is
to
get
them
to
pay
for
a
larger
can
would
we
would
it
be
more
cost
effective,
as
a
city
system
for
us
just
to
provide
everyone
with
a
larger
can
just
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
contaminate
our
recycling.
N
And
we're
working
on
that
so
we're
in
the
we're,
in
the
midst
of
a
rate
study
that
unfortunately
covered
delayed,
and
that
is
one
of
our
goals.
Is
I
don't
really
care
what
size
cart?
You
have
either
side
of
it.
Just
you
know,
put
the
right
thing
in
the
right
place
and
then
we'll
do
the
math
on
that
and
see
does.
I
We
know
it's
a
problem.
Thank
you.
Lastly,
you
mentioned
composting,
so
you're
doing
composting
just
naturally,
at
the
other
end,
just
to
pull
everything
compostable
and
getting
it
composted
do
we
think
we're
losing
a
lot
of
composting
by
people
doing
things
like
putting
stuff
down
the
drain
and
other
stuff,
and
put
this
way
would
would
we
is
it
worth
having
a
conversation
about
other
means
of
composting
in
our
city,
and
you
think
that
we
have
a
good
composting
system
now.
N
So
the
environmental
services
department
also
is
the
administrator
for
the
regional
wastewater
facility
and
so
anything
that
folks
put
down
the
drain.
We
actually
capture
and
we
use
that
produced
methane
out
of
our
digesters
to
power
the
wastewater
facility
and
then
any
of
the
solids
will
be
bringing
forward
a
plan
to
right.
A
D
L
Thank
you,
a
good
report
and
I
appreciate
the
confusion
over
what's
recyclable
and
what's
not
recyclable,
I
pride
myself
on
someone
who
thinks
they
know,
but
then
we
don't
know
so
I'm
I'm
really
intrigued
by
the
lids
and
having
the
lids
replaced
with
the
information
right
on
top
of
the
lids
of
what
you
cannot
recycle.
I
think
that
will
really
be
helpful
will
be
helpful
for
me
and
a
lot
of
us
because
we're
we're
visual
folks
we're
not
really
going
to
go.
If
I
have
a
question
about
something,
is
this
pizza
box
recyclable?
L
I'm
really
not
going
to
take
the
time
and
go
on
to
a
website
to
figure
it
out?
I'm
gonna
go
yes
or
no.
Based
on
how
dirty,
I
think
it
appears
at
one
particular
moment,
and
I
think
that's
your
average
person
your
average
person
is
they
just
want
to
get
rid
of
their
trash
and
they
want
to
put
it
in
the
right
spot.
They
want
to
do
the
right
thing.
Most
people
want
to
do
the
right
thing.
L
N
L
N
H
C
L
Like
and
especially
because
I'm
sheltering
a
place,
I
can
hear
it
so
I
know
it's
done.
I
can
bring
it
right
in.
I
don't
want
it
out
there.
You
know,
I
it
just
it
bugs
me.
It's
just
one
of
those.
You
know
the
things
you
find
are
annoying
to
you
under
kova.
You
didn't
know
before
you
now
know
they're
annoying
to
you.
So.
M
L
You
know
stupid
to
paul
soto,
it's
a
first
world
problem.
I
know
what
I'm
saying
is
is
stupid
for
the
most
of
the
people
in
the
world
and
what
they're
really
facing
as
it
relates
to
tragedy
of
covet
health
and
lack
of
food
and
other
things.
I
I
really
understand
that
and
I'm
truly
not
making
light
of
it,
but
it
is
recycling
and
picking
up
trash
is
really
important
and
I'm
really
glad
that
our
city
has
been
able
to
do
that
uninterrupted
for
for
the
year,
so
so
that
answers
the
replacement
lid.
L
N
A
Well,
it
was
just
you
know
during
like
in
march,
you
know,
as
we
all
sheltered
in
place,
you're
just
kind
of
looking
around
and
seeing
hey.
You
know
what
are
people
doing
and
a
lot
of
people
obviously
want
hula,
but
we
certainly
could
look
at
amazon
and
any
other
platforms.
We
we
bought
a
buy
where
it
was
a
packaged.
A
L
L
L
Oh
okay,
just
all
right!
That's
easy
enough!
Recycle
paper,
then
question
for
you
regarding
the
cost
of
service.
As
I
recall,
last
year
we
had
an
increase
that
was
going
to
be
substantial
during
the
that
would
have
come
on
the
property
tax
bill
as
it
does
now,
but
it
was,
I
don't
know
I
could
be
wrong
about
this.
N
So
we
will
be
bringing
forward
more
rate
increases
this
year
and
I
don't
have
a
final
number
yet
we're
waiting
for
the
results
of
the
curbside
audit.
We
are
also
working
with
the
city
manager's
office
to
see
if
there's
any
coveted
relief
money
so
as
you're
seeing
us
frame
things
up
as
directly
related
to
covid,
that's
with
the
intent
to
try
and
find
some
additional
resources,
some
additional
funding
to
offset
that
impact
to
to
our
community,
but
because
the
program
is
rate
recovery.
N
If
we're
not
able
to
find
find
those
funds,
there
will
be
potentially
significant
rate
impacts.
So
you'll
see
that
as
part
you'll
see
a
memo
come
out
with
the
budget
office
later
this
month,
it's
february
now
later
this
month,
and
then
we'll
also
have
a
study
session
where
we
can
talk
more
deeply
about
the
curbside
audit
and
and
how
it
relates
to
rates.
N
But
having
said
all
of
that-
and
I
do
think
it's
important
for
us
to
remember
that
the
cost
additional
costs
right
now
are
being
born
born
by
our
haulers,
so
they
are
having
higher
disposal
costs
born
on
them,
because
there's
additional
material
that
shouldn't
be
there
in
the
recycling
carts
and
then
they're
just
processing
a
lot
more
material.
And
the
good
news,
though,
is
that
the
recycling
markets
are
are
doing
a
little
bit
better
than
they
were
a
year
ago.
L
Well,
there's
definitely
an
increase
in
consumerism
for
some
who
are
sheltering
at
home
and
ordering
a
lot
of
amazon
deliveries
and
a
lot
of
other
things
being
delivered
to
their
homes,
because
they
don't
want
to
go
to
the
stores
they're
concerned
about
their
health
and
exposing
themselves.
So
is
there
are
the
the
recyclers
they're
still
taking
boxes?
L
N
Our
contracts
don't
allow
them
that
flexibility,
so
we
we've
structured
our
concert
contract
such
that.
If
the
materials
of
program
material
they
need
to
take
it,
and
then
we
will
work
out
a
different
solution
if
the
markets
drop
out,
but
because
markets
come
and
go
from
a
resident
standpoint,
we
don't
want
the
message
to
always
be
changing.
We
have
a
hard
enough
time
getting
the
basic
message
out
so
and
and
and
our
whole
share
our
values
that
we
don't
want
material
thrown
about
the
city.
N
We
know
if
someone
has
a
stack
of
boxes
and
and
the
hauler
doesn't
take
it
they're,
not
driving
to
the
landfill
or
somewhere
else
to
get
rid
of
it,
and-
and
so
they
share
that
goal
with
us.
But
we
have
ongoing
conversations
with
our
haulers
to
talk
about
what
you
know.
How
do
we
work
together
to
keep
the
price
down
and
and
pick
up
anything
and
everything?
That's
at
the
curb.
L
Luckily,
we've
opened
up
to
purple
tear
and
hopefully
that
will
open
up
some
restaurants
and
get
some
businesses
back
going
and
getting
some
people
out
working
again,
but
that
won't
have
an
immediate
effect.
It
will
have
more
of
a
longer
term.
The
other
thing.
The
final
thing
I'd
like
to
leave
you
with
is
that
if
you
could
provide
the
council
offices
every
one
of
us
has
newsletters
and
we're
always
looking
for
content
any
time
you
can
put
out
really
easy
information
that
would
be
helpful
for
recycling.
L
I
know
we'll
all
include
it
when
we
can
in
our
newsletter.
I
know
we
have
in
district
9
before
and
and
we
will
again,
we
did
when
we
had
the
big
recycle
push
earlier
this
year.
So
don't
forget
about
us,
because
we
are
always
looking
for
information
and
ways
to
share
valuable
tools
with
our
our
residents.
So
with
that,
I
appreciate
what
you're
doing
I.
I
hope
we
can
make
recycling
a
little
bit
less
complicated,
but
I'm
not
sure
that
we
will
thank
you.
B
Thank
you
I'll,
be
quick.
I
just
wanted
to
add
to
the
discussion
about
the
containers.
I
know
that
this
has
been
a
discussion
for
a
couple
of
years.
I
know
when
councilmember
foley
and
I
started
we
had
to
jump
in
and
do
a
lot
of
research
on
right
away
and
and
and
heard
a
lot
from
the
haulers
about
about
folks,
just
kind
of
cramming
everything
into
small
containers
and
I'll.
Go
back
to
my
comments
on
the
previous
item.
B
You
know:
east
san
jose
has
a
lot
of
overcrowded
census
tracks
again
a
lot
of
single-family
homes
that
weren't
designed
necessarily
to
have
15
people
in
them,
and
so
so
my
question
my
comment
is
is
one
I
do
think
that
those
larger
containers
are
needed
and-
and
I
look
forward
to
getting
the
information
about
the
study,
but
are
we
my
question
is:
are
we
reaching
out
to
property
owners?
I
some
of
the
leases
are
very
unconventional.
F
N
Yes,
thank
you
so
for
the
information
on
what
is
and
is
not
recyclable,
the
basic
behavior
expectations,
those
are
community
communicated
to
both
property
owners
and
tenants
that
are
that
reside
at
the
street
address,
but
in
terms
of
car
exchanges,
because
there
is
a
very
significant
pricing
discount
from
a
30
difference
from
a
32,
gallon
cart
to
a
96,
and
the
bill
goes
to
the
property
owner.
So
only
property
owners
can
change
the
cart
size
because
they
bear
the
cost
of
it.
N
And
so,
as
we
look
to
shift
the
program,
if
it's
the
same
price,
then
that
alleviates
that
tension
about
how
do
I
get
the
right
size.
But
there
is
a
cost
impact
because
of
that
price
difference.
But
we
think
over
time
we
can
work
it
so
that
people
are
able
to
pick
what
makes
sense
for
them
much
in
the
same
way
that,
right
now
you
can
have
any
size
recycling
card.
N
You
like
you
just
can't
have
any
size,
garbage
cart
and
that's
because
at
the
inception
of
the
program
that
made
sense
but
but
over
the
last
few
years,
we've
fully
appreciated
that
it
doesn't
make
sense.
And
then
the
new
contracts
that
we've
negotiated
with
our
haulers,
you
know
like,
I
said
it
compensates
them
if
people
are
not
doing
what
we
expect
them
to
do
and
they
bear
additional
costs.
N
So
so
I
think
we
have
we're
all
feeling
much
better
about
that
program,
side
of
it
that
everyone's
being
treated
fairly
but
the
resident
side.
It's
it's
hard
if
you're
a
tenant-
and
you
know
that
you,
your
32
gallon
cart-
is
full
and
you
know
the
property
owner
doesn't
want
to
spring
for
a
bigger
size.
Cart,
so
we
understand
that
they,
you
know.
Maybe
we
would
like
them
to
get
a
garbage
sticker
at
safeway
or
lucky's
or
wherever,
but
you
know
those
aren't
being
utilized
anymore
during
covid
either.
B
Thank
you
and
then
I
just
wanted
to
echo
councilmember
foley's
comments
on
the
the
rates
and
I'll
I'll,
just
I'll
look
forward
to
the
info
memo
coming
out
in
advance
of
the
study
session.
I
think
it's
a
complicated
issue,
particularly
given
the
financial
circumstances,
so
many
people
find
themselves
in
right
now.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Do
I
need
to
move
to
accept
the
update
I'll
move
to
accept
the
update.
Second,
thank
you.
D
I
have
a
couple
of
questions
so
the
annual
survey
it
said
there
was
a
10
percent
increase
in
respec
residents,
responding
to
the
question
about
recycling
all
of
the
time.
I
don't
want
to
be
too
much
of
a
stickler,
I'm
assuming
that's
a
10
percentage
point
increase
and
what's
the
total
percent
of
people
who
recycle
all
the
time,
you
guys
you
know,
I'm
the
data
nerd
right.
I
gotta
ask
that
question.
A
D
Yeah
yeah,
no,
that's
very
good!
So
I
had
another
question
about
the
the
lid
pilot
program.
So
how
were
the
5
000?
So
I
understand
about
council
members
the
reason
I
was
giggling
about
council
member
foley's,
getting
the
the
bins
in
right
away
on
time.
We
have
teens
and
their
job
is
to
get
the
bin,
so
ours
is
often
out
the
next
day
and
then
the
day
after
that-
and
sometimes
even
one
of
the
neighbors-
comes
and
puts
it
on
the
curb
for
us.
D
So
we
don't
have
that
problem
and
we're
more
likely.
It
sounds
like
to
get
the
sticker,
maybe
because
of
that.
So
how
are
the
5
000
households
being
chosen
and
how
are
they
going
to
be
distributed
throughout
the
city
and
then
what?
What's
the
tracking
on
I
mean?
I
see
how's
the.
How
is
the
tracking
going
to
happen
about
whether
the
recycling
chain
behavior
changes.
N
N
Leave
it
out
that
day
because
we
figure,
if
you're
the
one
bringing
it
in
you're,
probably
the
one
putting
it
out
and
then
there'll
be
other
communications
as
as
well,
although
I
had
forgotten
about
the
teen
factor,
so
we
might
want
to,
we
might
want
to
rethink
how
I
don't
know
that
my
daughter
would
even
read
it,
but
so
and
then
they
were
selected
based
on
routes
and
so
valerie.
Maybe
can
you
talk
about
how
they're
distributed
throughout
the
city
so
that
we
kind
of
can
learn
what
we
hope
to
learn.
H
H
We
know
which
routes
have
which
level
of
contamination
throughout
the
city
and
some
are
doing
pretty
well
and
others
are
on
the
kind
of
higher
end
of
the
spectrum.
And
so
we
are,
we
selected
a
variety
of
routes,
so
some
kind
of
in
the
more
moderate
contamination
and
then
some
higher
contamination
routes.
D
Okay,
so
you're
using
the
the
current
curbside
study
as
the
baseline,
yes
and
you're
gonna
do
a
follow-up.
Okay,
that's
really
helpful
and
it
just
another
again,
I'm
as
as
with
councilmember
foley,
I'm
like
putting
myself
in
in
the
the
potential.
Is
it
the
shoes
of
someone
who
might
potentially
get
this,
which
I
think
would
be
really
cool.
Honestly,
I
think
that's
going
to
be
really
helpful,
because
even
in
my
own
household
we'll
have
this,
can
we
put
this
in
the
bin
or
not?
D
And
so
I
think
it's
it
it's
I
I
I'll
honestly,
I'm
like!
Oh,
I
hope
we
get
one,
but
then
my
next
thought
was
except
that
I
think
both
of
my
carts,
both
my
recycling
and
my
garbage
carts
need
to
be
switched
out
because
they're
both
broken
they're
still
usable,
which
is
why
we
haven't
called
for
a
replacement
yet.
But
how
do
we
like
should
what?
If
what,
if
the
one
that's
tagged
for
for
the
new
lid,
actually
has
a
broken
handle.
N
N
But-
and
you
know,
they're
pretty
responsible
and
committed
individuals,
and
so
my
sense
of
it
is
if
they
see
a
really
dilapidated
cart,
they're
going
to
go
ahead
and
put
that
in
the
system
and
then
the
replacement
cart.
They
just
swap
out
the
lid
again,
but
but
valerie
maybe
have
that
conversation
just
to
set
expectations
but
councilmember.
It's
pretty
easy
phone
call
to
your
hauler.
If
you
need
a
new
car.
D
Well,
I
sort
of
feel
like
I
don't
want
to
waste
all
the
plastic
of
the
cart.
It's
still
usable.
I
can
still
get
it
to
the
curb,
so
that's
why
I've
been
putting
it
off,
but
I've
been
doing
the
take
out.
More
often,
the
kids
are
not
leaving
for
school,
so
tends
not
to
get
put
out
unless
one
of
us
adults
does
it
now,
which
is
why
I've
noticed
right.
So
thank
you
for
that.
D
D
I
don't
know
campaign
that
you
that
you
do
or
you've
done
in
the
past
about
that,
because
that
actually
didn't
occur
to
me
until
just
today,
you're
talking
about
it
and
I'm
thinking,
sometimes
when
it
when
in
doubt
I'm
like.
Oh,
it's
got
the
it's
got
the
triangle
on
it,
I'm
just
gonna
put
it
in
the
recycle
bin
and
it
sounds
like
that's.
Not
the
right
choice
to
make
so.
N
The
way
it
can
be
the
the
best
sort
of
message
we
have
is
no
foods,
no
liquid,
because
food
and
liquid
contaminate
the
good
material.
And
so,
if
you
had
a
a
clean
piece
of
plastic
in
it,
it
didn't
wasn't
a
program
material.
It
wouldn't
adversely
impact
anything
else,
but
it's
the
things
that
are
clear,
garbage
that
are
tainting
the
balance
of
the
material,
but
but
that's
where
we
really
focus
on.
D
N
Yes,
and
so
those
are
some
of
the
programming
that
we're
looking
when
schools
get
sort
of
back
in
session
and
and
people
have
the
ability
to
sort
of
absorb
that
new
information
is
really
having
folks
talk
about
how
much
they're
wasting
so
all
that
food
that
you
bought
at
the
store
and
then
just
throughout.
You
could
have
saved
that
money
and
so
focusing
on
on
what
a
resident
might
see
as
a
benefit
to
themselves,
not
just
to
an
environmental
program.
Yeah.
I
B
I
G
G
I
can't
thank
you
enough,
council
mint
perales
for
your
attendance
at
the
meeting
and
for
your
input.
I
was
waiting
the
whole
time
to
to
like
man.
I
I
need
to
hear
from
him.
Man
I
need
to.
I
was
looking
at
your
hand,
man,
it's
not
going
up
whatever
boom.
It
went
up
so
process
for
that
man.
I
appreciate
that
man
I
cried
today.
I
was
just
I
I
still
I
just
I'm
speechless
with
regard
to
like
the
the
vindication
that
my
ancestors
received
today
is
going
to
reverberate
through
the
generations.
G
G
Both
have
a
relationship
and
the
the
the
concept
of
the
subjugated
and
the
concept
of
the
superiority
and
the
the
superior
and
the
inferior
that
created
this
racist
genocide
that
we
still
contend
with
the
remnants
today,
and
so
I
just
I
as
as
a
citizen
of
the
city,
I
can't
express
enough
how
proud
I
am
how
proud
and
just
just
I
love
my
city
today,
because
I
know
that
it's
possible
we're
not
just
man,
dismantling
a
statue.
We
are
attempting
to
dismantle
the
ideologies
that
erected
it
in
the
first
place,
and
that
is
important.
M
Thank
you,
and
the
first
thing
I
want
to
do
is
to
give
kudos
to
tony
for
using
a
screen
to
display
the
the
calendar.
I
wish
every
other
agency
in
the
bay
area
would
do
this,
including
the
vk
and
mtc.
The
first
thing
I
want
to
do
is
apologize
for
missing.
Last
month.
You
know
presentation
on
the
blossom
hill
back
in
that
overpass
and
trudeau
che.
M
Moving
on
to
batteries,
I
respectfully
disagree
with
some
of
the
commands
that
were
made
earlier.
The
technology
for
semis,
not
just
semis,
but
actually
real,
electric
trains
is
already
there.
I
can
give
you
an
example:
you're
not
going
to
see
them
in
the
bearer,
because
bnsf
does
not
operate
here.
We
only
have
union
pacific
in
the
central
valley
when
the
nsf
are
touring
a
train
which
is
probably
half
a
mile
long
with
double
stack
containers
that
require
three
locomotives.
M
Let's
start
with
replacing
the
middle
locomotive
with
a
battery
electric
locomotive
and
see
how
it
goes
and
guess
where
that's
going,
the
the
technology
for
the
trucks
is
already
here.
The
issue
is:
is
to
be
able
to
mass
produce
sufficient
batteries
to
power
these
trucks
right
now,
tesla,
just
don't
have
the
capacity
they've
only
got
enough
capacity
broke
out.
They're
actually
testing
these
trucks
right
now
by
transporting
their
cars
to
la,
including
going
up
and
down
the
grapevine.
So
the
technology
is
here.
M
O
Hi,
that's
me
blair,
beekman
hi.
I
have
a
new
zoom
app,
and
so
it
just
said
that
so
thank
you
very
much
for
the
meeting
today.
Thanks
a
lot
for
the
words
of
paul
soto,
I
I
decided
to
sit
back
and
just
kind
of
listen
to
the
meeting
today
and
paul
soto's
words
are
really
inspiring.
As
usual,
I
tried
to
talk
about
you
know.
I
was
really
impressed
with
the
electric
bus
issues
and
the
electric
vehicle
items.
I
sent
yourselves
a
letter
today.
O
I
tried
to
mention
that
since
2015
it's
been
my
feeling
that
you've
made
some
incredible
strides
to
invite
the
other
parts
of
lower
income
communities
to
you
know
like
recharging
station
ideas.
That's
now
excuse
me.
That's
now
becoming
a
more
regular
idea
now,
and
so
that's
quite
a
leap
forward
in
five
years.
So
you
know
there
is
progress
being
made,
how
to
talk
about
equity
issues
in
lower
income,
neighborhoods
and
then
paul
soto.
O
You
know
talked
about
his
his
anger
that
that
needs
to
still
be
happening
and
then
council
person
perales
talked
about.
You
know
how
cars
are
like
30,
000
bucks
and
really
expensive.
So
this
issue
is
not
done
with
and
I
hope
you
enjoy
my
letter.
Thank
you
for
all
the
information
today,
I'm
a
bit
worried
about
covid
still
and
what
we're
going
to
do
in
the
next
few
months.
I
think
we
really
got
to
be
on
our
guard.
O
It
sounds
like
still
and
just
be
wary
and
ready,
and
it
isn't
till
maybe
the
end
of
april.
You
know
that
we
can
start
to
relax
a
bit
and
let
our
guard
down,
but
these
forecasts
keep
changing.
So
sorry
for
all
the
trouble
and
thank
you
for
all
of
your
efforts
and
thanks
to
everyone
for
the
meeting
today,.