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Description
The June 7, 2022 Pre-Proposal Conference was a meeting for firms and partnerships interested in submitting responses to the 5/10/22 Request for Proposals for a transit solution connecting Mineta San José International Airport to Diridon Station in Downtown San José.
Meeting materials: https://www.sanjoseca.gov/home/showpublisheddocument/87698
Project page: https://www.sanjoseca.gov/your-government/departments-offices/transportation/transit/airport-diridon-stevens-creek-connector
A
All
right
good
afternoon,
everyone,
I'm
ramses,
madhu
division
manager
of
planning
policy
and
sustainability
here
at
the
department
of
transportation
in
the
city
of
san
jose.
I
am
joined
by
brian
stanke,
our
project
manager
for
the
airport
connector
here
and
presenting
our
work
today
very
excited
to
see
so
many
of
you
here.
We
have
just
to
hit
100
participants
in
this
presentation
here
and
we've
had
over
130
different
companies
actually
download
the
rfp
itself.
A
It's
pretty
exciting,
but
we
are
here
to
talk
about
the
airport,
connector
san,
jose
airport,
connectors
request
for
a
proposal
and,
let's
dig
in
all
right
see
if
we
can
get
the
slides
to
work
right
there.
We
go
all
right,
we're
going
to
start
with
a
few
words
of
intro
from
some
of
our
leaders
and
start
off
with
john
rizzo,
our
director
of
transportation.
B
Thank
you
thank
you,
ramses,
and
really
excited
to
have
so
many
people
attending
this.
This
is
an
important
project
for
the
city
of
san
jose.
We
really
are
looking
for
a
private
partner
to
help
us
really
to
develop,
build
and
operate
a
real
connection
between
san
jose
benedict
international
airport
and
our
downtown
bearden
station,
where
a
lot
of
things
are
going
to
be
happening
in
that
station.
B
B
We
have
commitment
all
the
way
from
mayor
and
council,
through
the
department
of
transportation
and
the
airport,
to
actually
make
this
a
really
successful
project,
so
we're
looking
forward
to
this
process
and
where
we
can
select
a
great
partner
for
the
rest
of
the
time
to
develop
and
and
build
and
operate
this
whole
system.
I
think
am
I
just
turning
it
over
to
scott.
C
Thank
you,
john
hello,
everyone.
I
am
scott
whitner,
I'm
deputy
director
of
aviation
at
san
jose
mineta
international
airport,
I'm
here
today
representing
our
director
of
aviation,
john
aitken
and
our
assistant
director
judy
ross,
both
of
whom
are
away
and
at
an
industry
conference
this
week.
So
you
are
stuck
with
me,
but
I'm
I'm
delighted
to
be
here
to
represent
them
and
and
be
part
of
this
discussion
about
a
really
exciting
project
for
us.
C
So,
while
this
is
not
an
airport
project
and
federal
regulations,
sort
of
limit
our
ability
to
officially
be
involved,
particularly
financially
in
the
project,
naturally
it
is.
It
is
an
airport
project
in
the
sense
that
you
know
we
are
very
excited
about
any
project
that
generates
or
makes
it
easier
for
for
folks
to
to
access
the
airport
and
particularly
with
the
tremendous
growth
on
the
horizon,
not
far
on
the
horizon
downtown
in
the
eurodon
station
area
and
downtown
west.
C
So
we're
excited
to
see
what
the
proposers
have
to
bring
to
the
table
here
and,
as
john
said,
we're
excited
to
to
find
a
a
a
partner
in
that
effort
and
so
to
agree.
The
airport
can
be
part
of
that
process
and-
and
you
know
we
have
been
since
the
beginning-
in
coordination
with
john
and
his
team,
ramses
and
brian
and
the
airport
will
continue
to
to
collaborate
to
make
sure
this
is
a
successful
effort.
C
C
A
Scott,
thank
you
yeah.
Thank
you
so
much
john
and
scott
for
introducing
the
project
and
kind
of
showing
some
of
our
higher
level
commitment.
I
think
it's
really
important
to
stress
that
right.
The
city
is
lined
up
and
committed
to
to
make
this
project
be
successful.
You
know
we're
we're
taking
a
new
approach
here
to
the
way
that
projects
are
developed
in
san
jose
and
potentially
in
the
industry.
A
I
know
we're
trying
to
follow
this
development
of
pre-development
agreements
and
and
how
we
function
with
through
this
project
and
we're
we're
trying
to
take
the
lessons
learned
there,
and
we
know
that
it's
really
important
for
us
as
the
city
to
to
express
all
of
you
now
that
we're
here
to
make
sure
that
this
happens.
You
know
from
day
one
all
the
way
to
the
project's
operation
right.
A
D
A
And
then
ryan
sheilan
from
the
airport
is
our
project
contact
our
day-to-day
project.
Contact
at
the
airport,
he
is
also
on
vacation,
seems
like
the
airport's
a
vacation
moment
right
now,
but
he
is
our
kind
of
constant
contact
there.
So
I
wanted
to
make
sure
you
knew
who
the
internal
primary
team
is.
Now
importantly,
this
might
be
the
city
project
team,
but
we
have
an
incredible
group
supporting
us
and
doing
this
we
have
the
arab
team.
A
Led
by
alfonso
are
you
here,
I
think
you're
here
somewhere,
as
well
as
the
ashhurst
legal
support
team
led
by
anna
hermelian.
I've
been
just
an
incredible
team.
Helping
us
develop
this
very
extensive
rfp
that
you're
all
hopefully
getting
through
in
parallel
to
this
all
right,
so
part
of
what
we
want
to
do
with
a
pre-bid
meeting
is
get
folks
a
chance
to
understand
who
else
is
out
there?
That's
why
we
left
this
open
as
well.
A
It
does
look
like
we
hit
a
hundred
percent
100
participant
limit,
so
we
do
also
have
a
recording
for
those
who
might
have
some
team
members
who
aren't
able
to
get
in,
but
we
will
be
sharing
the
registration
list
for
this
around
with
folks
who
came
in
if
you
wish
your
name
and
company
not
to
be
on
that
list.
Please
do
contact
the
city
through
the
general
procurement
address
here,
which
is
also
on
the
rfp
as
the
primary
contact
line.
A
I
mean
please
do
so
by
june
9th
and
we'll
be
sending
out
the
list
on
the
10th
okay.
So
what
are
we
here
to
talk
about?
Well,
we're
ostensibly
here
to
talk
about
the
airport
connector,
but
for
the
city
this
project
represents
something
bigger
than
just
this.
One
project
san
jose
is
the
10th
largest
city
in
the
country.
Potentially,
the
11th
austin
is
trying
to
beat
us
out
population
at
the
moment
and
we
are
very
challenged
transit-wise.
A
We
do
not
have
enough
transit
for
us
to
meet
our
urbanization
goals,
our
climate
goals,
our
equity
goals.
We
know
we
need
a
great
deal
more
transit.
We
also
know
that
the
way
that
we're
delivering
transit
at
the
moment
is
too
expensive
to
be
scalable
at
the
at
the
pace.
We
need
to
meet
our
goals,
so
part
of
this
project
for
us
is
bringing
a
new
approach
to
transit,
delivery,
transit
project
delivery
and
operations.
A
We're
hoping
that
this
becomes
the
first
leg
of
a
larger
expanding
system
over
time
and
you'll
see
if
you've
been
reading
the
rfp
or
have
been
in
conversations
with
us
already.
You
know
that
we're
really
trying
to
push
on
what
it
means,
what
the
different
roles
of
the
private
public
are
and
how
to
bring
in
partners
as
early
as
possible
to
help
diminish
costs
and
manage
projects
better.
A
So
the
project
that
we're
we're
out
there
with
the
rfp
for
is
a
three
to
four
mile
transit
segment
that
starts
at
diridon
station
and
ends
at
terminal
b
at
a
minimum
right.
So
that's
terminal
b,
if
you
guys
know
san
jose
airport,
that's
the
southwest
terminal
and
we
have
not
decided
on
an
exact
alignment.
A
Yet
we
have
can
see
in
the
outline
on
the
map
kind
of
brown
outline,
that's
our
kind
of
what
we
call
our
search
space,
the
green
element
there
columbus
park
in
the
middle
is
new
information,
and
that
is
area.
We
must
avoid
right
in
the
middle
there.
So
that's
the
the
project
segment.
Now
we
do
have
an
option
defined
option
in
the
rfp
a
required
option
for
an
interterminal
segment,
so
we
do
need
to
yeah.
So
that's
very
important
to
us,
and
importantly,
we
are
open
to
augmentations
of
this
segment.
A
This
primary
segment
from
terminal
beta
turidon
such
as
other
stops
along
the
way-
let's
say
maybe
at
a
well-used
shopping
mall
in
the
middle
of
this
segment,
and
things
like
that,
as
long
as
it
doesn't
diminish
the
overall
quality
of
the
service
between
the
airport
and
the
the
transit
station
and,
again
importantly,
we
are
looking
for
future
expansion.
So
we're
definitely
looking
at
a
technology
questions
around
expansion.
A
There
are
certain
technologies
that
are
perfect
for
this
kind
of
application,
but
have
very
little
application
outside
of
this
kind
of
alignment,
and
that's
something
that
would
not
be
of
interest
to
the
city.
We
need
to
make
sure
that
this
kind
of
system
that's
being
developed
through
this
project
can
take
on.
You
know
larger
quantities
of
passengers
as
well
as
more
complicated
urban
environments,
as
we
hope
to
see
this
expand
all
right.
So
what
are
we
looking
for
right?
A
What
we
want
to
do
is
leverage
what
you
all
know
and
bring
that
innovation
and
know-how
in
to
the
very
beginning
of
these
projects
right.
We
have
a
very
broad
definition
of
this
project
so
far
what
we
want
to
do
as
soon
as
we
actually
start
putting
pen
to
paper
in
terms
of
design
in
terms
of
process
and
all
of
the
in
terms
of
technology
selection.
We
want
your
guys's
know-how
in
from
the
beginning.
A
A
You
know
ownership
stake
from
the
private
entity
and
we
believe
that
that's
going
to
offer
a
great
deal
of
value
right,
that
both
sides
of
this
relationship
are
really
driving
towards
a
successful
program
from
a
similar
perspective
right
from
day
one,
and
then
we
really
are
trying
to
minimize
the
amount
of
public
funding.
That's
needed
for
this
now,
that's
both
in
terms
of
trying
to
keep
the
cost
down,
as
well
as
trying
to
see
how
much
risk
and
capital
that
the
private
market
can
come
in
can
bring
it
right.
D
Thank
you
ramses,
as
I'm
just
mentioning
this
is
a
multi-step
pda.
So
right
now
we're
in
the
the
rfp
phase,
the
with
the
submissions
due
in
august
we'll
go
we're
aiming
to
go
through
the
evaluation
and
have
us
up
to
two
preferred
proposers
selected
by
the
end
of
the
year,
at
which
point
we
would
award
the
first
first
phase
of
the
pda
phase.
D
So
we
can
get
to
that
that
construction
ready
project
at
the
tail
end
of
phase
two
we're
actually
setting
up
phase
three,
which
is
developing
and
finalizing
that
implementation
agreement,
where
we
are,
are
setting
the
final
financing
and
funding
plan,
the
construction
and
operations
agreements
and
and
the
project
approval
to
go
into
into
construction.
So,
at
the
end
of
at
the
end
of
those
we
go
into
the
implementation
phase
with
the
construction
and
then
the
agreement
for
set
period
of
time
for
for
operations
that's
set
in
in
that
implementation.
D
Thanks
travis,
so
questions
and
responses
you
know
are:
all
questions
will
be
submitted
through
our
city's
procurement
platform
portal.
It
it
does
allow
comments
to
be
directly
submitted.
We
will
be
re,
reviewing
those
and
responding
either
with
direct
response,
single
response
to
a
question
or
issuing
addendums
to
the
rfp
july.
20
22nd
is
the
the
deadline
for
those
questions.
Now
any
questions
submitted
via
bingo.
In
writing.
Those
are
public
as
well
as
the
responses.
D
D
Now
the
one-on-one
meetings
that
they
are
not
mandatory,
but
you
do
have
to
email.
Public
works
procurement
to
request
those,
and
I
believe
it's
in
our
rfp
schedule
we
about
two
weeks
before
the
week
of
july
11th.
We
will
be
responding
to
only
those
parties
that
have
requested
in
to
have
one-on-one
meetings
with
the
schedule
for
the
week
of
july,
1st
we're
looking
to
have.
D
D
And
then
we
will
be
providing
responses
to
to
the
to
all
the
one-on-one
meeting
questions
you
know
through
it,
through
addenda
and
and
through
responses
provided
to
to
all
the
bidders
they
aren't.
They
are
not
mandatory,
but
they're
an
opportunity
for
for
that
further
discussion
before
the
proposals
have
to
put
in
their
their
their
final
proposal.
D
And
once
we
once
we
have
those
we
have
about
five
five
step
process
for
the
evaluation
I'll
be
stepping
through
those
in
the
next
slides.
But
it
involves
both.
You
know,
pass
fail,
responsiveness
and
the
value
and
the
technical
review
and
then
and
then
there's
those
volumes
where
we're
going
to
be
scoring
against
criteria
and
using
that
for
the
ranking
of
the
proposals.
D
D
Does
it
include
both
the
the
base
project
and
the
option
for
the
intra-airport
connector
and
then,
as
as
part
of
this
pda,
we're
asking
that
the
transit
solution
have
a
capital
total
capital
cost
not
not
to
exceed
500
million?
This
is
exclusive
operations,
but
we're
really
looking
at
both
a
project
development
implementation
process
that
moves
moves
faster
and
cheaper,
but
also
a
techno
technology
transit
solution
that
really
gets
us
that
that
bigger
bang
for
the
buck.
D
So
that's
where
we
have
the
the
team,
technical
experience,
financial
capacity,
project,
delivery,
experience
and
then
on
the
financial
side.
This
is
important
because
of
where
we
are
in
the
process.
It's
too
early
to
be
to
be
looking
at
the
overall
cat
cost
of
the
of
the
project.
We
haven't
done
the
project
development
yet,
but
here
the
financial
proposal
is
looking
at
the
cost
caps
for
reimbursement
for
phase
one
and
phase
two,
where.
D
How
much
early
capital
commitment
does
the
do?
Project
proposers
have
for
the
the
project,
verification
and
the
project
development
phases
phases
of
this
project?
This
is
where
earlier
money
is,
is
great
value
to
the
city
and
saying
that
there's
a
confidence
behind
the
technical
and
commercial
proposal
that
the
private
partner
is
coming
with,
and
there
you
that's
why
you
see.
There's
there's
2
000
points
for
the
the
financial
one
and
that's
when
we
talk
about
the
cost
cap,
that's
it
for
the
completion
of
of
the
phase.
A
Thanks
brain,
I
appreciate
it
so
yeah
so
starting
to
get
the
overall
sense
of
how
we're
gonna,
evaluate
and
look
at
the
projects.
Brian
touched
just
a
little
bit
on
the
on
the
different
phases
within
the
pda
process
that
us
and
our
incredible
consultant
team
have
put
together
right.
There's
three
major
phases
right:
the
first
phase
is
going
to
be
likely
with
two
parallel
teams
and
that's
the
development
of
the
technical
and
feasibility
phase.
We'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
in
detail.
A
What
that
looks
like
in
a
second
that
second
phase
really
is
the
meat
of
the
project.
This
is
where
we're
going
to
be
developing
the
design,
the
engineering,
environmental
permit
processes
all
of
the
the
the
setup
right
and
then
that
third
phase
is
getting
us
over
the
finish
line
in
terms
of
getting
an
agreement
for
actually
implementing
it,
and
that's
where
the
after
that,
where
construction
and
project
delivery
really
gets,
kicked
off
so
looking
at
pda
phase,
one
right.
A
So
if
you
are
successful,
one
of
the
potentially
two
companies
that
will
get
through
into
phase
one,
what
are
we
looking
at
right?
This
is
the
part.
That's
changed!
A
little
bit
since
since
earlier
in
our
project,
so
for
those
of
us
for
those
of
you
who
have
been
following
what
we've
been
doing
from
early
on
we've
expanded
this
phase
into
two
primary
tasks.
One
is
really
coming
up
together
with
a
project
outline
right,
and
this
is
the
management
of
all
of
the
major
elements
of
the
project.
A
What
is
this
going
to
look
like
from
day,
one
out
until
we
get
the
the
project
done
all
right,
so
that's
everything
from
financial
management
design
management.
You
know,
government
entity,
coordination,
public
outreach
all
of
these
kinds
of
things.
The
second
part
is
the
ballot.
The
feasibility
validation
report.
A
So
we
know
what's
really
coming
in
right,
and
so
this
is
your
technical
really
looking
into
technical
feasibility
for
the
companies
that
are
the
groups
coming
in
with
technology
readiness
level
in
the
lower
range
of
acceptable,
where
folks
are
maybe
not
yet
at
mass
market
availability
of
their
product
and
we're
really
going
to
be
making
sure
that
that
technology
can
get
to
full
maturity
and
time
to
make
this
project
work,
that
commercial
structure
right.
We're
really
trying
to
push
on
making
sure
that
the
commercial
structure
of
this
project
works
are
well.
A
We
want
the
private
sector
to
take
on
a
lot
of
risk.
Public
sector
is
taking
a
lot
of
risk
as
well.
There's
a
lot
of
value
the
public
sector
is
going
to
be
bringing
in
here.
We
want
this
to
succeed,
and
so
we're
really
going
to
sit
together
and
understand
what
kind
of
commercial
process
and
then
the
financial
feasibility
behind
that
make
sure
this.
A
A
At
that
point
we
break
into
phase
two
and
then
eventually,
of
course,
phase
three
phase.
Two
again
is
the
kind
of
big
design
sprint
where
we're
really
going
to
get
into
creating
the
really
designing
this
project,
I
think
important
parts
here
are:
we've
highlighted
the
kind
of
four
major
work
streams
here,
of
course,
financial
and
commercial,
and
this
really
going
to
start
off
with
immediately
working
on
what
the
implementation
agreement
really
looks
like
right
and
develop
that
over
the
period.
A
So
we
really
know
what
we're
getting
into
in
the
long
term
right
again
we're
looking
for
a
30
year
50-year
partner
from
day
one
right,
and
so
we're
really
trying
to
get
into
that
agreement.
How
are
we
trying
to
get
there
that'll
be
developed
over
that
time?
Technical
right,
we're
really
going
to
be
working
on
design.
We
want
to
get
from
that
that
schematic
design
all
the
way
to
100
design
in
that
process
and
then
permits
and
environmental.
A
This
is
to
be
a
pretty
visible
project,
so
really
having
a
good
team
behind
making
sure
we
are
communicating
with
all
the
stakeholders
and
the
public
in
general
to
keep
this
project
in
in
the
apple
of
the
public's
eye,
instead
of
the
opposite,
as
projects
sometimes
do,
and
it's
going
to
be
a
big
important
piece
now.
You'll
also
see
that
we've
structured
this
project
around
off-ramps.
A
We
all
know
that,
as
you
develop
a
project,
new
information
comes
to
light
for
both
sides
right,
and
so
we
have
structured
this
in
a
way
that
we
are
enabling
us,
you
know,
ammunition
at
various
times
during
development.
Of
course,
we
don't
want
that.
That's
most
certainly
not
our
intention
at
all,
but
we
believe
it's
only
smart
to
build
these
things
in
and
gives
everybody
a
better
sense
of
certainty
as
to
what
the
the
kind
of
check-offs
are
throughout
the
process.
A
And
we
do
it
depending
on
kind
of
the
bid
that
folks
put
in
under
what
brian
was
talking
about
in
the
and
the
financial
piece.
There'll
be
a
building
contingent
termination
payment
structure,
that'll
build
out
of
those
different
off
ramps
and
then,
of
course,
phase.
Three.
Is
us
really
sitting
down
and
and
ironing
out
the
final
bits
of
that
implementation
of
agreement
really
making
sure
that
our
our
agreement
is
absolutely
clad
and
that
we
are
all
comfortable
and
and
happy
with
that?
A
And
that
is
kind
of
the
process.
As
it
is
designed.
There's
a
great
deal
of
detail
on
the
rfp.
We
did
spend
a
lot
of
extra
time,
making
sure
that
we
had
a
very
strong
draft
of
the
pda
itself
as
well
as
even
workflows
to
get
through.
All
of
these
processes
spelled
out
so
that
folks
have
as
much
certainty
as
they're
going
in
to
design
their
responses
to
this
as
possible,
and
with
that
we'll
take
questions,
please
feel
free
to
use
the
chat.
A
I
read
the
question
from
the
from
the
chat
here
from
michael
palmari,
scott
winter
mentioned.
The
airport
will
not
be
financially
involved
with
the
project,
yet
the
project
yeah
the
project,
especially
the
optional
segment,
obviously
brings
significant
financial
value
to
the
airport.
To
clarify,
is
it
correct
that
the
city
would
contribute
any
financial
resources,
short
or
long
term
to
the
project?
I'm
going
to
take
a
little
bit
of
swipe
on
that?
Oh
scott
you're,
going
to
you
want
to
start
go
ahead.
C
There
is
the
possibility
within
faa
regulation,
so
it's
something
that
the
the
successful
proposers
would
have
to
to
navigate.
There
is
the
possibility
that
the
airport
could
support
a
portion
of
the
intra-airport
portion.
I
mean
that
is.
That
is
not
entirely
off
the
table.
That
said,
we
would
not
be
pursuing
this
project
strictly
for
that
purpose.
So
so
it
you
know
the
project's
got
to
be
viable
without
that
component.
So
you
know,
I
would
suggest
that
it
not
be
considered.
C
A
I'll
add
a
little
bit
from
prior
conversations.
I've
had
with
the
airport
and
scott.
Please
tell
me
if
I'm
misunderstanding
something,
but
there
is
an
expectation
there
will
be
some
some
level
of
availability
payment
for
that
portion
within
the
airport,
so
there
is
going
there
would
be
a
financial
involvement
of
the
airport
that
they're
just
the
level
of
it
is
part
of
why
this
is
an
option
right.
The
airport
wants
a
very
clear
sense
of
what
that
will
cost
them
to
get
involved
in
that
part.
A
All
right
keep
on
going
here
with
questions
in
the
chat
from
matthew
potential
stipend
for
unsuccess
for
unsuccessful,
preferred
bitter.
When
will
this
information
be
available,
so
the
reason
the
word
potential
is
in
there
is
actually
has
to
do
with
your
bid
again
in
that
financial
piece
of
the
bid.
If
I
go
back
a
couple
slides
here,
so
you
know
what
I'm
talking
about
here-
the
financial
proposal.
Now,
I'm
all
over
the
place
there
we
go,
there
is
the
option
of
bidding
zero.
A
B
Sorry,
just
one
question
amir
from
meridian
high
just
to
that
point:
it
understood
on
on
that,
but
I
guess
the
if,
if
a
bidder
asks
for
a
dollar,
it's
it's,
I
think
it's
zero
points
right.
So
can
you
just
sort
of
explain
what
the
the
rationale
is
between
you
know,
having
completely
at
risk
and
and
granting
no
points
for
having
some
cost
sharing
during
that
phase.
A
So
it's
it's
shouldn't,
be
zero
at
one
dollar
right.
So
it's
it's.
If
somebody
bids
zero,
if
any
team
decides
to
bid
zero,
it's
graded
on
a
scale
right.
So
if
any
team
does
decide
to
come
in
at
zero,
then
they
they
do
get
an
advantage.
Now,
if
other
folks
come
in
at
that
level,
that
that
happens
as
well.
But
if
nobody
does
then
there's
a
scale
of
points
there
that
that
happen.
A
A
This
is
a
project
that
we
will
be
developing
a
funding
plan
for
together
and
so
the
earlier
on,
we
can
work
together
on
that
the
better-
and
you
know
just
to
be
completely
direct
from
our
perspective.
The
developers
who
are
willing
to
put
in
a
bet
early
on
show
the
kinds
of
project.
How
do
I
wanna
say
this
dedication
that
that
we're
really
looking
forward
to
make
this
work
out.
B
A
Yeah
I'll
address
that,
from
the
philosophical
perspective
that
this
project
is
trying
to
come
in
on,
we
are
looking
to
get
transit
delivered
at
a
cheaper
price
point
than
we've
seen
in
the
past,
and
so
we
are
really
trying
to
push
as
hard
as
we
can
at
the
top
number
from
day.
One
right
may
have
followed,
what's
going
on
with
our
bart
project,
an
incredible
project
that
we
absolutely
need,
but
the
costs
are
just
ballooning
beyond
imagination,
so
we're
really
trying
to
push
that
down.
A
We
are
trying
to
work
within
a
given
number.
That
is
the
number
500
million
is
the
number
that
is
listed
in
for
this
project
within
plan
bay
area,
our
regional
transportation
plan.
It
is
the
absolute
cap
of
potential
public
money,
but
in
the
rfp
it
is
defined
as
500
million
for
total
capex
for
the
project.
A
That's
what
we
would
like
to
see-
and
we
do
mean
that,
as
as
the
total
project
cost
and
if
nobody
can
come
in
at
that
map,
you
know
that
that
number
we're
gonna
have
to
we're.
Gonna
have
to
learn
something
from
from
everybody,
but
we
are
trying
to
keep
that
project.
Cost
total
there
down
and
again.
Total
does
mean
capex
for
us
here,
not.
B
A
Yes
again
we're
trying
to
reduce
that
as
much
as
possible,
but
there
is
the
expectation
that
we
will
be
working
on
a
funding
plan
together
and
we
fully
expect
to
go
either
state
or
federal
funding
sources.
To
do
that,
and-
and
a
happy
note-
we
just
got
word
earlier
this
week-
that
senator
states
and
not
state
senator
federal,
senator
california,
senator
alex
padilla,
has
just
put
in
an
earmark
for
this
project
for,
for
a
small
amount,
1.5
million
to
help
us
develop
the
project.
A
All
right,
I'm
going
to
go
back
to
the
chat
here
and
again.
If
you
have
project
questions,
you
want
to
ask
just
on
audio
or
videos.
Please
raise
your
hand,
but
we
got
a
few
here
another
one
from
michael
you
mentioned
during
the
pda.
You
wanted
to
remain
open
to
the
technical
solution.
How
does
that
fit
with
the
rfp
scoring
of
the
technology
partner,
which,
by
definition,
would
be
already
selected
by
the
proposer
and
included
in
their
rfp
response?
Yeah
great
question?
A
This
is
something
we
really
wrestled
with
a
lot
in
developing
this
rfe,
a
lot
of
what
we
learned
earlier
in
this
process
through
our
rfi
for
those
who
followed.
That
was
that
there
are
new
technologies
out
there
that
seem
to
offer
a
lower
price
for
transit
projects
as
well
as
potentially
higher
customer
value.
A
At
the
same
time,
what
we
have
heard
from
folks
out
there
is,
we
think
we
can
do
this
approach,
that
you're,
taking
with
somewhat
more
traditional
technologies,
so
you'll
see
in
the
rfp
that
we
have
created
this
technology
readiness
level.
I
believe
it's
at
level,
eight
or
nine.
I
can't
remember
off
top
my
head,
which
level
we
put
it
at
where,
above
that,
folks,
can
try
and
commodify
the
technology
approach
later
on
in
the
project
life
cycle,
as
long
as
they
can
bring
enough
information
into
the
rfp
submission
to
to
fill
out.
A
What's
happening
right,
and
so
you
know
traditional
apms,
for
example.
These
are
this:
is
a
commodified
market
for
these
kinds
of
technologies,
right
and
so
basic
assumptions
as
to
what
these
systems
are,
how
they
work
and
the
kinds
of
support
they
need
to
deliver.
The
rfp
response
could
be
possible-
and
we
heard
this
from
from
a
few
different
potential
partners,
as
we
were
doing
our
market
sounding
and
development
of
this,
so
we
made
sure
to
be
open
to
both
sides,
so
that's
kind
of
our
kind
of
yeah.
A
That's
how
we're
we're
seeing
that
question
from
elliot
jameson.
The
slide
stated
that
a
deliver
developer
will
be
expected
to
take
the
project
through
to
100
percent
design
in
pda
phase
2.,
based
on
the
rfp.
We
had
anticipated
that
100
design
would
not
come
until
later
during
the
dnc
implementation
phase.
Can
you
please
clarify
we
want
to
do
we
put
90
to
100
percent
in
that
pda
phase?
A
A
So
two
things
one:
this
is
somewhat
tentative
in
terms
of
the
exact
amount
of
design
we'll
get
to
at
the
end
of
that
phase
and
how
much
we'll
still
need
to
get
done
in
that
large
later
phase.
The
other
thing
I'll
say
is
here
in
phase
one:
we're
going
to
have
the
design
management
plan
now
decided
together
in
that
d
right
and
as
we
we
get
there
we'll
try
to
figure
out
exactly
how
we're
going
to
manage
that
right.
A
So
I'll
say
there
is
some
room
for
discussion
around
exactly
when
that
level
of
design
needs
to
be
finished.
You
know
for
us
as
soon
as
possible.
Done
in
the
done.
Well
is
the
right
answer,
but
there's
a
lot
of
discussion.
Obviously
we
need
to
go
through
to
figure
out
yeah
how
that
process
is
going
to
work
elliot.
Is
that
satisfactory?
Is
there
some
nuance
there
hi
yeah?
If
you
can
hear
me,
I
think
I
generally
understand
I
guess
even
that
I
did
see
the
90
to
100,
even
at.
B
A
All
right,
a
question
from
ben
the
third
project
objective
stated
by
ramses
was
a
scalable
transit
solution
and
those
that
can't
expand
beyond
this
project
are
not
solutions.
The
city
is
looking
for
upon
review
of
the
rfp.
The
scoring
criteria
doesn't
appear
to
reflect
the
weight
of
that
statement.
Can
you
please
clarify
so
we
do
have
a
technology
scalability
measurement
in
the
rfp
in
this
in
the
actual
transient.
Let's
pull
up
the
slide
here
and
the
technology
and
commercial
proposal,
so
it
it
is
in
there.
A
I
I
I
can
hear
a
bit
of
a
hey.
You
know,
maybe
you
didn't
give
it
enough
weight
in
the
in
these
points,
to
kind
of
really
reflect
that.
So
we're
saying
that
now
right
I
mean,
I
think
that
the
the
the
goals
are
very
clear.
We
we
want
projects
that
have
the
potential
to
to
scale
beyond
just
this
project,
it's
written
throughout
the
rfp
and
yeah.
A
A
We
are
open
to
other
stops
between
duradon
and
the
airport
again,
if
they
add
value
to
the
project
right,
because
if
you're
thinking
about
the
longer
term
value
of
the
segment
you're
connecting
downtown
to
the
airport
well,
downtown
can
be
connected
to
other
things
as
well
again,
there's
an
interesting
shopping
center
in
between
there
there's
a
large
piece
of
parkland
that
needs
some
development.
Things
to
consider
now
are
do
we
do
we
think
that
those
are
necessary?
Absolutely
not.
They
are
not
necessary.
Again.
A
A
We
did
get
letters
from
some
of
our
surrounding
community
stakeholders,
in
particular
the
san
jose
sharks,
whose
main
facility
would
be
directly
adjacent
to
this
segment,
as
well
as
directly
across
the
street
from
deer
down
station,
and
they
have
expressed
you
know,
tepid
interest
in
the
airport
connector
itself,
but
they're
really
interested
in
seeing
this
system
expand
beyond
that
to
bring
folks
from
the
south
bay
farther
reaches
south
bay
into
the
project
area
they're
also
interested.
They
have
a
second
site
south
of
downtown
south
east
of
downtown
that
they
might.
A
They
have
expressed
interest
in
seeing
expansion
there.
So
there's
discussions
to
be
had
there.
We've
also
been
working
for
a
long
time
with
our
neighboring
jurisdictions,
along
stevens
creek,
to
build
a
great
separated,
transit
solution
along
there.
We
don't
have
those
other
jurisdictions
here
and
they're
not
ready
to
make
decisions
yet,
but
we
do
have
a
submission
and
a
adopted
submission
and
the
regional
transportation
plan
plan
bay
area
for
that
segment
as
well
to
build
all
the
way
down
to
dianza
college,
which
is
about
almost
nine
miles.
A
If
I
remember
the
the
the
the
piece
and
if
you
remember
this,
project
originally
started
as
stevens
creek
and
airport
connector,
and
we
did
have
to
remove
the
stevens
creek
piece
just
because
of
the
larger
jurisdictional
complexities,
and
we
want
to
get
this
first
segment
underway
before
we
grow
into
other
things.
So,
there's
lots
of
different
ideas
as
to
where
we
would
expand
both
internally
to
san
jose
and
potentially
to
regional
other
regional
destinations.
A
A
We
are
open
to
discussing
what
that
what
revenue
models
can
be
made
development
fees?
I
want
to
understand
what
you
mean
by
development
fees.
That
can
mean
a
lot
of
different
things,
whether
that's
from
other
developments
paying
into
it.
You
know,
making
those
agreements
up
front
would
be
great
anything.
You
want
to
clarify
jamie
a
little
bit
about
what
development
fees
you're,
particularly
interested
in.
D
Yes,
I'm
here
specifically
talking
about
retribution
of
developers,
you
know.
Basically,
this
is
a
classic
structure
on.
You
know
this
infrastructure
projects
and
basically
it's
typically
an
amount.
Basically
for
what
we
understand
is
you
know
a
retribution
of
the
works
we've
done
during
the
development
and,
in
this
case
of
pdas,
that's
particularly
relevant,
probably.
A
Yeah
so
remember
remuneration
to
you
guys
so
again,
what
we're
hoping
to
do
here
is
generate
enough
public
funds
in
the
capex
portion
of
the
program
of
the
project
to
create
a
viable
project
right.
So
that's
why
that's
how
we?
You
know
we
got
the
project
in
our
regional
transportation
plan
so
that
we
could
start
looking
for
money.
What
we
want
to
do
in
pda
phase
one
and
two
is
really
figure
out
how
much
we're
going
to
need
from
that
public
side
to
make
this
work
out.
A
So
the
answer
is:
yes:
is
there
operations
money
ongoing
operations,
money
that
we
have
on
tap?
That's
a
lot
harder.
As
you
all
know,
public
operations
money
is
a
lot
harder
to
get
a
hold
of
than
than
than
capex.
But
so
that's
why
we're
putting
this
out
as
a
revenue
risk
model,
at
least
one
of
the
reasons.
So
yes,
yes
and
there's
a
lot
of
discussion
to
be
had
there,
but
I
think
does
that
give
you
enough
information
jimmy.
D
A
All
right
next,
we
have
colin
does
the
total
of
500
million
include
right-of-way,
enabling
works,
and
the
cost
of
environmental
approvals.
Right-Of-Way
is
something
that
we
will
be
negotiating.
The
value
of.
It
is
part
of
the
value
that
the
city
wants
to
bring
to
the
table,
so
there's
definitely
some
right-of-way
that
we
will
be
be
offering
as
part
of
the
project
deal,
there's
some
right
of
way.
A
A
Yes,
thank
you
all
right
back
to
michael
here
to
follow
up
on
amir's
question
to
the
pda
phase.
One
cost
risk.
Can
you
hear
me
yeah
go
for
it,
michael
yeah.
I
know
you
can
skip
this
one.
No,
no
okay!
I
answered
it
already.
Thank
you
all
right
over
to
ron
swenson
is
the
route
between
sjc
the
airport
and
eurodon
fixed.
If
not,
what
are
the
first
phase
route
options?
So
it's
not
fixed
great
question
ron
and
nice
to
hear
from
you.
A
You
might
not
be
able
to
see
it
too
clearly,
but
there's
a
brown
outline
here
around
mostly
the
guadalupe
gardens
area
and
some
of
the
commercial
land
on
coleman
avenue
and
then
a
blue
shape
here
around
the
diridon
station
area
and
sap
center
and
some
of
the
industrial
lands
there.
We
call
that
our
route
search
space
we've
specifically
not
chosen
a
very
specific
route
because
we
believe
well,
one
different
technologies
allow
for
different
routes,
and
so
we
wanted
to
not
put
that
up
front.
A
A
D
A
C
B
A
A
I
see
another
one
showed
up
here
in
the
chat.
Some
questions
have
already
been
posted
in
the
portal,
but
when
will
those
be
answered,
great
question?
We're
working
to
release
our
first
batch
of
answers
to
the
portal
this
week,
we've
been
focusing
on
developing
this
and
getting
ready
for
this,
but
we
should
have
answers
later
this
week,
potentially
early
next
week
and
after
that
we
we're
going
to
try
to
get
into
a
one
week
to
two
week
cycle
of
questions.
A
Within
that
now,
there
could
be
an
interesting
deviation
from
there
if
you're
kind
of
a
waymo
or
a
cruise,
or
something
like
that.
That's
getting
different
kinds
of
authority
from
from
dmv
and
the
state
in
other
ways,
but
we
would
be
open
to
discussions
around
what
that
means,
since
we
are
playing
at
the
edge
of
what
technology
is
doing,
though,
our
understanding
is
that
cpuc
is
asserting
authority
over
pretty
much
anything.
A
It's
a
really
good
question
and
my
understanding
is
yes
that
it
is
that
same
group,
since
they
have
the
expertise
and
again,
you
know
we're
playing
with
the
edge
of
some
of
these
technologies.
Those
who
are
are
working
in
california
already
might
have
a
relationship
with
cpuc
already
and
whatever
test
projects
they
have,
but
that
is
our
understanding,
but
to
some
degree
yeah
that
we
want
to
hear
from
you
and
your
teams
as
to
your
approach
to
the
regulatory
process.
A
A
B
A
Okay,
one
thank
you
all
for
spending
the
time
with
us
today,
as
well
as
the
other
time
that
you've
spent
perusing
this
this
rfp
and
and
getting
into
those
projects.
We
know
it's
a
lot
of
work.
It's
a
lot
of
effort.
We've
been
putting
our
work
in.
We
know
you
guys
are
too
and
we're
here
to
to
keep
developing
this
project
together,
we
will
be
sharing
the
slides,
as
well
as
a
recording
of
this
presentation
on
the
project
website.