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A
B
C
B
Thank
you
next
is
approval
of
the
agenda.
Is
there
a
motion
to
approve
the
agenda
so
moved?
Second,
and
a
second
by
commissioner
Ortiz
was
at
the
second?
Yes,
yes,
all
right.
Is
there
any
discussion,
if
not
I'll
ask
Elizabeth
to
take
a
roll
call
vote
on
this?
Commissioner.
B
Next
item
for
discussion
and
action
is
consideration
of
a
recommendation
from
the
subcommittee
on
human
rights
and
social
issues
for
a
charter
Amendment
creating
a
new
section
10.01
of
the
charter,
providing
further
requirements
and
details
for
future
city
Charter
commissions
and,
as
you
all
will
recall.
Oh
I
will
note
that
commissioner
granillo
has
joined
us
and
welcome.
B
F
B
At
our
last
meeting
where
we
voted
on
all
of
the
recommendations,
this
item
did
not
make
it
on
to
the
agenda,
and
so,
although
we
discussed
it
previously-
and
we
know
it
was
a
matter
that
was
referred
to
that
subcommittee-
we
just
had
not.
We
did
not
have
a
chance
to
vote
on
it
because
it
wasn't
on
the
agenda,
so
we
have
included
it
in
the
report
in
the
event
that
there
is
a
positive
vote
out
of
this
committee
to
include
it.
D
I
suppose
I'll
be
brief,
because
it
will
be
repetitive
based
upon
past
statements
during
our
meetings,
we've
all
perceived
that
the
process
itself
had
certain
drawbacks,
not
enough
time,
not
enough
public
facing
Outreach,
not
enough
ways
to
encourage
participation,
and
so
this
was
an
effort
to
try
and
ensure
that
there
was
adequate
time
for
any
ensuing
commission
to
do
the
work
that
it
needs
to
do
both
in
terms
of
substantive
consideration
of
the
matters
that
are
brought
before
it,
but
also
to
establish
some
procedural.
D
If
you
will
rules
in
terms
of
timing
and
the
like,
that
will
ensure
it
has
opportunity
to
do
more
Outreach
and
get
more
public
input.
So
let
me
stop
there
because
I,
don't
think
much
more
need
be
said.
Unless
there
are
questions.
B
Is
there
a
motion
to
recommend
this
as
a
charter
Amendment
amending
section
10.01
regarding
Charter
Commission,
future
Charter
commissions
and
filling
out
the
current
section
10.01
with
those
requirements.
B
B
As
I
said,
we
all
have
discussed
this
and
seen
it
before
so
I
will
ask
Elizabeth
to
take
a
roll
call
vote
on
this
motion.
C
B
B
B
Our
next
item
is
approval
of
the
charter
commission's
report
to
the
governing
body
we
circulated.
The
proposed
report
and
Marcos
were
working
hard
on
that
on
Thursday
and
all
Friday
afternoon.
B
We're
trying
to
get
this
in
shape
to
be
able
to
get
it
to
you
for
this
meeting,
as
well
as
to
the
city
council,
so
I
know
there
wasn't
a
lot
of
time
to
review
it,
but
please,
let
us
know
if
you
would
like,
if
you
see
any
revisions,
that
you
would
like
to
recommend
anything
else
that
that
you
would
like
to
suggest
regarding
the
report.
G
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I
have
a
clarifying
couple
of
clarifying
questions
and
then
just
a
comment
number
one
I
think
it
looks
good.
It
does
reflect
what
we
discussed
last
week,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
it
in
the
form
that
it's
totally
accurate
in
terms
of
page
one,
the
second
paragraph,
which
is
pretty
much
summarizing.
What
we're
sending
to
the
city
council
I,
want
to
make
sure
that
that
we
have
those
numbers
correct.
G
That's
summarizing
the
number
of
recommendations
we
had
a
total
of
15
recommendations
and
I
do
have
a
clarifying
question
on
one:
the
open
meetings
recommendation
as
I
read.
What
we
have
in
here
I
wasn't
sure
if
it
indicated
that
we
wanted
to
it
to
be
a
charter
Commission
chain
Edition,
because
what
we
say
for
open
meetings,
we
say
the
governing
body
should
consider
this
as
a
potential
legislative
change.
G
B
Okay
yeah,
my
recollection
of
the
vote,
was
that
it
was
a
a
matter
to
be
recommended
for
the
council
to
review,
as
with
the
boards
and
commissions
sunset,
but
it
was
not
a
charter
amendment.
That
was
what
the
vote
was,
and
maybe
the
wording
could
be
a
little
clearer
on
that
recommendation
is
what
I'm
hearing
commissioner
Ortiz.
G
Yes,
because
I
was
trying
to
tally
up
to
make
sure
that
the
num,
the
the
tally
of
our
15
recommendations
worked
out
in
that
paragraph
on
page,
one
and
I
wasn't
sure
where
to
put
this
particular
one,
whether
it
was
a
charter
Amendment
or
if
it
was
a
charter,
Amendment
language
or
if
it
was
recommendation
for
Action,
not
in
Charter
or
if
it
was
recommendation
for
no
action,
because
it
was
like
three
different
groupings,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
so.
G
Having
said
that,
I
think
there's
only
one
two,
three
four
five
Charter
organizations,
if
I'm
counting
them
correctly,
the
paragraph
says
six
amendments
to
the
Charter
and
we
don't
have
to
figure
that
out
now.
Madam
chair
I'm,
just
saying
that
needs
to
be
clarified
before
you
present
to
City
Council
on
Wednesday.
B
B
Yes,
I
did
see
that
I
just
wasn't
quite
done
yet.
I
am
counting
six,
but
let
me
ask
Aaron
to
weigh
in
on
that.
A
So
my
comment's,
not
about
the
number,
although
I'm
scrolling
through
and
Pat,
might
not
have
the
answer
on
that.
It
was
just
that
the
recommended
legal
position
or
or
legislative
position
is
the
current
state.
So
I
just
I,
don't
know
if
we
want
to
characterize
it
as
a
change,
but
the
current
state
of
affairs
is
that
boards
and
commissions
of
the
city
are
required
to
follow
the
open
meetings
act,
except
that
we
do
allow
for
100
virtual,
which
I
think
this
recommends
that
be
potentially
an
exception.
B
Yeah
I
think
it
it
was
and
I
know
you
weren't
at
our
last
meeting,
but
the
discussion
was
Governor
body.
Why
don't
you
look
at
what
you're
doing
and
try
to
make
everything
compliant
with
the
open
meetings
act,
but
if
it
really
does
increase
participation-
and
you
have
good
reasons
for
having
meetings
virtually
then
continue
with
what
you're
doing
I
mean
it
was
that
sort
of
I
think
was
the
message,
and
maybe
it
could
be
worded
a
little
bit
differently.
Let
me
ask
how
what
she
remembers
very.
H
Long,
thank
you.
I
did
I
also
count
six
in
the
substantive
changes.
Okay,
yeah,
my
recollection
was
that
it
was
slightly
different
than
the
current
way
that
we
deal
with
open
meetings
act
and
not.
H
Commissioner
Ives
said
that
everything
would
comply
with
the
open
meetings
act
unless
it
was
easier
for
public
participation
virtually
which,
to
my
mind,
made
it
so
that
entirely
virtual
meetings
on
behalf
of
it
being
hard
for
the
board.
Members
was
not
allowed.
A
C
C
Okay,
the
motion
was
to
to
continue
with
the
current
state
of
affairs,
as
as
Ms
mcsherry
said,
with
the
exception
of
having
a
virtual
meeting.
If
it
was
easier
to
get
public
comment.
G
G
There
was
lots
of
conversation
on
this
and
I
think
bottom
line
at
the
very
end
of
all
of
our
deliberations.
The
the
idea
was
to
maintain
and
keep
the
language
regarding
finance
committee
within
the
charters
so
that
it
clarifies
that
there
is
one
and
then
this
this
particular
section
I
just
read
on
page
three
that's
been
struck
out.
It
clarifies
who,
how
the
composition
shall
be
selected
anyway.
I
just
thought
that
that
should
be
in
the
main
version
and
that's
the
only
other
comment.
I
had
Madam
chair.
B
Maybe
this
is
for
Aaron.
We
are.
The
the
city
council
will
receive
what
we're
calling
the
the
clean
final
report,
with
whatever
changes
we
make
today,
as
approved
and
in
terms
of
a
black
line,
a
red
line
report
from
comparing
these
revisions
to
the
current
Charter,
we're
not
presenting
that,
and
it
could
be
something
that
the
council
can
request
of
the
city
attorney's
office
when
they're
analyzing
our
recommendations,
but
we're
not
presenting
that
at
this
time.
Does
that
make
sense.
A
Cheryl
I'll
defer
to
Pat
on
clarify
this
I
think
what
I'm
hearing
the
the
comment
to
say
is
that
there's,
maybe
just
a
mismatch
in
the
text
rather
rather
than
so
so
it
sounds
like
they're
and
I'll
defer
to
Pat
on
that
right.
Yeah.
B
And
I
know
Paul
worked
on
that
too.
So
let
me
ask,
let
me
go
to
commissioner
dear
Dak
first
that
yeah-
and
this
is
specific
to
the
finance
committee-
is
that
correct?
Yes,
it.
E
Is
and
in
fact
the
sequence
has
been
that
we
were
generating
Redline
versions
until
they
became
so
difficult
to
decipher
that
we
stopped
doing
that,
and
then
we
made
changes
going
forward
in
a
clean
copy.
Then,
when
the
interest
was
to
include
a
Redline
version
as
a
tool,
as
you
said,
chair
long,
a
tool
for
the
council's
use
going
forward,
we
had
to
go
back
to
an
obsolete
Redline
version
that
still
existed
and
try
to
bring
it
up
to
speed,
and
this
particular
deletion
of
three
words
kept.
E
We
kept
stumbling
over
it
because
it
is
our
clear
intention
and
the
way
we
voted
as
a
whole
was
that
those
three
words
be
included,
but
but
the
red
line
version
is
an
antique
among
us
and
it
keeps
come
popping
up
as
having
been
deleted.
That
deletion
is
an
error.
Okay,.
B
So
it
was,
it
was
something
from
your
report
then
from
the
subcommittee.
It
was
not
a
comparison
of
the
recommendations
to
the
current
city:
Charter,
that's
right,
yeah,
so
that
wouldn't
be
helpful
to
anyone
at
this
point.
It
was
helpful
going
through
it
and
getting
to
the
to
the
final
to
the
final
recommendations,
but
not
helpful
at
this
point.
Okay,
let
me
ask
Pat
to
weigh
in
on
this
just.
H
To
so
I'm
clear,
this
is
not
in
the
final
report
and
it
is
not
supposed
to
be
in
the
final
report
correct
that
sentence.
The
city
council
shows
elect
from
among
its
members
a
finance
committee
and
may
select
from
among
its
members
other
committees
to
facilitate
its
work.
I,
don't
see
it
in
the
final.
E
I,
don't
that
sentence
should
not
be
in
the
final,
but
the
reference
within
the
duties
of
the
city
manager
to
refer
the
budget
to
to
the
finance
committee
and
the
full
Council.
The
reference
of
the
finance
committee
should
be
in
that
sentence
under
the
the
manager.
G
I
I,
it
is
my
understanding
that
it
should
be
in
the
final
report,
because
the
sentence
we're
speaking
of
clarifies
how
that
finance
committee
is
going
to
be
put
together
and-
and
so
there
should
be
two
places
in
our
final
report
that
reference-
the
finance
committee
number
one,
the
budget
going
there
and
then
the
sentence
I
just
read
on
page
three,
that's
red
line
out,
and
it
still
was
a
long
time
in
discussing
all
of
this
and
lots
of
different
versions.
G
So
I
can
see
the
confusion,
but
it
was
my
understanding
that
we
wanted
to
focus
and
Elevate
the
issue
of
a
fine
of
a
budgeting
process,
a
finance
portion
in
the
charter
and
the
finance
language
in
the
charter,
coupled
with
the
finance
existing
finance
committee,
that
is
already
existing
as
part
of
the
charter
that,
coupled
with
the
new
language
on
finance
and
budgeting,
will
strengthen
and
make
our
Charter
stronger
and
focus
and
raise
the
priority.
G
You
need
for
Good
Financial
Management
on
all
levels,
so
at
leaving
the
language
in
the
charter
that
talks
about
a
finance
committee
needs
to
remain,
but
this
additional
sentence
that
was
crafted
by
us
that
was
taken
out
really
adds
to
that
level,
because
what
it
does
it
specifies
who
shall
I'll
create
the
finance
committee?
It
says
the
council
shall
select,
so
it
further
gives
responsibility
and
Direction.
The
council
shall
select
from
among
its
members
of
finance
committee
and
may
select
from
other
from
among
its
members
other
committees
to
facilitate
this
further
identifies
and
clarifies.
G
Not
only
is
their
finance
committee,
it's
the
council,
that's
putting
it
together.
The
responsibility
is
placed
there
and
it's
clear
that
it
shouldn't
fall
to
the
Wayside
and
should
always
happen
because
the
duties
are
outlined
in
the
charter.
There
exists
one.
These
are
the
people
that
created,
and
this
is
how
they
can
create
so
I
I
I
believe
that
the
law,
all
in
my
conversations,
is
always
always
my
intent
to
leave
that
in
there
okay.
B
I
see
that
and
that
that's
a
helpful
explanation,
so
there's
really
a
the
finance
committee
gets
appointed
by
the
council
under
your
subcommittee,
is
what
you're
remembering
your
subcommittee's
recommendation
was
and
there's
also
a
reference
in
the
section
under
the
city
manager
that
the
city
manager
would
work
to
prepare
a
timely
budget
for
review
and
approval
by
the
finance
committee.
So
those
are
the
two
places
that
you're
talking
about.
Okay,
commissioner
deirdack.
Does
that
comport
with
what
you're,
remembering
as
the
recommendation
or
does
that
seem
agreeable?
B
E
Entirely
agreeable,
it's
simple
all
the
short
answer
to
your
question
is
entirely
agreeable
on
all
counts.
Okay,.
F
E
B
All
right,
so
we
will
add
that
into
the
report.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
We
did
on
the
recommendation,
but
I
think
this
was
in
the
recommendation.
It's
just.
As
you
said,
there
have
been
a
lot
of
edits
going
back
and
forth
over
the
months
and
it
would
be
easy
to
see
how
this
one
did
not
make
it
into
the
report.
Commissioner
ice.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I
know
the
practice
at
the
city
has
been
to
allow
the
mayor
to
designate
which
counselors
sit
on
which
committees
and
also
I
believe
to
appoint
chairs
for
those
committees.
That
would
seem
to
be
a
change
to
that.
So
I'm
just
wondering
do
we
need
to
change
anything
else
in
the
charter
so
that
that
is
not
in
conflict
with
any
other
provision
and
that
may
have
been
done
and
I
just
haven't
focused
on
that.
But
I
wanted
to
ask
the
question.
B
Okay,
that's
a
good
question.
Let
me
go
to
Pat
sorry.
H
That
previous
discussion
with
commissioner.
H
B
A
C
A
Clarification
and
it
was
I
hesitated
raises,
but
but
now
that
count
commission
arrives
yes,
the
duties
of
the
mayor
do
provide
that
that
he
appoints
with
the
consent
of
the
council.
The
members
of
advisory
commissions,
well
commissions,
I'm,
not
sure
thought
it
was
committees
and
commissions,
but
so
generally
that's
been
interpreted.
Anything
that's
advisory
in
the
city
that
the
mayor
points
to
unless
there's
something
in
the
charter
that
deviates
from
that.
A
So
the
finance
committee
is
an
advisory
committee
at
least
right
now,
I
don't
have
any
decision-making
Authority.
So.
G
B
Right
so
under
the
mayor's
duties,
it's
a
point
with
the
consent,
a
majority
of
the
total
possible
membership
of
City
Council,
the
same
manager,
so
the
attorney
City,
Clerk
and
members
of
advisory
commissions
and
the
and
the
finance
committee
would
fall
under
that.
You
think
as
an
advisory,
Commission.
E
Okay,
if
chair
along,
if
I
may
interject,
please
I,
don't.
E
If
someone
wanted
to
make
the
case
that
there's
a
conflict,
they
probably
could
find
an
argument,
but
if,
on
the
other
hand,
we
didn't
want
there
to
be
an
argument
over
this
I,
don't
see
why
we
would
have
to
have
one
I,
don't
it
it
has
been
the
practice.
As
commissioner
I've
said,
and
now
the
the
consent
of
the
council
is
in
the
current
procedure
right
when
the
mayor
appoints.
E
So
the
council
weighs
in
on
it
anyway,
but
it
is.
Is
there.
E
A
Adding
the
words
that
say,
the
city
council
shall
select
from
among
its
members
a
finance
committee
and
may
select
from
amendments
members
other
committees
to
facilitate
its
work.
However,
there
are
many
advisory
committees
that
are
made
up
of
counselors
and
they
are
not
selected
from
the
among
the
members.
They
are
appointed
by
the
mayor
with
the
consent
of
the
council
and
I.
A
Don't
think
we'll
really
have
a
last-in-time
argument
so
much
because
you're
amending
both
sections
at
the
same
time,
so
it
is
a
little
bit
one's
more
specific,
so
I
guess
we
would
probably
argue
that
it
would
be
the
ones
that
are
more
specific
that
would
govern
in
a
statutory
construction.
I
mean
it's
easier
if
we
don't
have
to
go
into
statutory
construction
as
the
plan
rather
than
like
we'd
prefer
not
to
have
to
have
a
plan
about
how
we're
going
to
Future
interpret
our
laws
in
order
to
avoid
a
conflict.
A
E
Yeah
I
guess
I,
guess
where
you
you
can.
You
can
count
me
as
having
stumbled
is
that
I
am
not
as
privy
to
ordinances
as
the
rest
of
as
some
of
you
are
and
I
I
would
not
have
seen
this
did.
Are
you
asking
us
to
create
a
cure
for
this
possible
con
contradiction
here
today.
Is
that
what
you're
asking
Aaron.
A
Chair
long
counselor,
Dyrdek
I
believe
commissioner
or
commissioner
Dyrdek,
or
the
commissioner
arrives
as
the
one
asking
about
this.
Not
me
not
I
I
am
not
asking
anyone
to
do
anything.
B
But
I
think
what
I
heard
heard
you
say
Aaron
was
that
if
the
council
were
to
take
up
the
commission
on
this
recommendation
for
a
charter
amendment
that
there
could
be
further
work
done
to
make
sure
it's
clear
going
forward
before
it
goes
to
the
voters
as
to
so
that
there
isn't
a
conflict
about
commissions,
committees,
who's,
appointing
that
sort
of
thing.
A
Chair
long
I'm,
absolutely
saying
that
if
this
score,
if
this
commission
has
a
preference,
however,
because
they
could
go
either
way
with
that,
they
could
say
this
is
an
exception
to
the
role
or
they
could
say
they
don't
like
the
conflict
and
they
want
to
go
the.
A
So
if
there
is
a
preference
of
the
board,
that's
helpful
to
State
now
so
we'll
know
what
that
is.
If
there's
not,
then
then
certainly
that
would
be
my
recommendation.
Is
they
do
clarify
that
before
it
goes
to
the
voters.
D
Pulled
up
the
existing
Charter
on
my
screen
as
we've
been
talking
and
we're
looking
at
section,
501e
and
I.
Think
if
you
put
a
comma
at
the
end
of
that
section
and
just
said,
with
the
exception
of
the
finance
committee
and
possibly
a
reference
to
the
change
that
is
being
proposed
by
this
commission.
You've
solved
that
problem.
But.
H
G
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I,
appreciate
what
commissioner
Ives
suggested.
I
think
that
could
take
care
of
the
question,
not
that
I'm
convinced
there's
a
should
be
a
question.
From
my
perspective.
The
commission
is
sending
forward
to
the
counselors
the
elevation
and
the
focus
on
finance
finance
committee
budgeting,
and
we
are
recommending
something
different
which
may
break
from
past
practices.
G
It
was
not
our
intent
and
I
think
this
issue
could
come
up
in
other
areas.
Was
that
our
intent
to
make
sure
there
were
no
obstacles
on
everything
in
the
current
Charter?
G
With
our
recommendations
read
perfectly,
and
there
was
no
conflicts
that
can
arise
as
well
as
what
we
recommend
to
the
council
could
be
changed
by
the
council,
would
create
even
more
conflicts
or
discrepancies
or
or
areas
where
it
just
doesn't
work
well,
so
our,
in
my
view,
we're
raising
the
issue
that
we
want
this
to
be
looked
at
and
developed
by
the
council.
The
city
council
and
the
finance
committee
is
still
there
and
whether
or
not
it
creates
conflicts
is
not
an
issue.
Initially.
The
city
council
still
has
to
look
at
the
concept.
G
They
may
not
like
the
concept
and
it's
a
done
deal
and
we
would
have
spent
all
this
time
trying
to
rearrange
and
try
to
avoid
any
conflicts
in
the
current
Charter
as
well
as
these
issues.
I
think
this
is
the
first
screen
we're
sending
them
our
concept.
This
is
what
we
want
them
to
do.
We
want
them
to
consider.
The
city
council
is
appointing.
G
We
want
them
to
consider,
maintaining
and
keeping
the
finance
Council
there
and
to
add
the
budgeting
language,
and
if
they
agree
to
that,
then
that's
when
we
go
to
the
second
level
of
screening-
and
this
is
rolling
up
the
sleeves
and
getting
it
okay,
let's
make
sure
it
works
with
existing
Charter.
Let's
make
sure
there's
no
legal
issues
regarding
the
state
statutes,
so
I
think
we're
trying
to
get
ahead
of
ourselves
and
accomplish
everything
in
one
recommendation
and
I
think
it's
it's
not
necessary
at
this
point.
G
G
The
city
council
is
going
to
look
at
that
and
they're
going
to
have
adjustments
and
changes
anyway
to
whatever
we
represent
so
I
I.
Believe.
As
long
as
we
add
page
three
item
D
from
the
red
line
version
to
the
current
clean
version
and
send
it
Forward
I
think
there
will.
The
city
council
will
understand
our
intent
and
then
do
with
it
what
they
made
so
I,
but
I
do
appreciate
commissioner
Ives
suggestion
and
adding
those
for
a
couple
of
words
to
it.
If
that
helps
clarify.
So
that's.
F
Thank
you,
chair
and
just
really
briefly.
I
I
agree
with
what
commissioner
Ortiz
was
just
saying
and
I
think
that
the
clearer
document
we
consent
to
the
council,
the
better
right
like
if
we
can
address
them
with
discrepancies
right
now
right
here.
That
would
be
great.
We
are
not
going
to
be
able
to
do
that
with
every
cross-reference,
but
as
much
as
we're
able
to
I
would
suggest
that
we
try
to
do
that
today.
Thank
you,
okay,
commissioner.
I
Montoya,
yes,
that's
exactly
what
I
was
going
to
Echo
to
the
extent
I
mean
I
agree
with
commissioner
Ortiz.
We
can't
possibly
find
everyone,
but
when
we
have
found
one
and
we
know
about
them
to
the
extent
we
can,
you
know
make
that
clear
in
our
report.
The
better
I
appreciate,
commissioner
Ives
suggested
language
and
I
would
be
fine
with
that
or
even
something
more
broadly
to
say.
You
know
yes
in
section
501e,
these
are
the
mayor.
I
This
is
how
it
is
done
for
commissions,
which
we
don't
need
to
get
into
that,
but
with
the
exception
of
finance
committee
or
unless
otherwise
described
here
in
in
the
charter.
This
way
it's
broad,
if
it's
something
else,
another
committee
or
another
commission,
that
is
going
to
be
an
exception
to
that
rule.
There's
that
flexibility,
but
since
we
don't
have
that
this
year,
I
think
or
this
decade,
I
think
commissioner
Ives
recommendation
is
perfect
and
then
we've
we've
seen
the
problem.
I
B
On
page
three,
the
strikeout,
which
is
501
D,
is
coming
back
in,
and
that
says
this,
the
city
council
and
we'll
we'll
vote
in
the
end
here.
But
the
city
councils
shall
select
from
among
among
its
members
of
finance
committee
and
may
select
from
among
its
members
other
committees
to
facilitate
its
work,
and
then,
commissioner
Ives,
you
suggested
it
sounds
like
an
amendment
to
502
the
Executive
Branch,
the
mayor
e.
Yes,.
D
B
The
end
of
that
paragraph
about
appointments
of
members
of
advisory
commissions.
What
language
are
you
suggesting.
D
Well,
the
only
carvet
that
has
been
proposed
is
for
the
finance
committee
and
acceptable
to
say,
with
the
exception
of
the
finance
committee,
and
if
you
wanted
to
cite
to
the
other
portion
where
the
amendment
would
potentially
appear.
That
would
certainly
make
clear
the
the
change
in
the
instance
and
I
do
have
a
follow-up
question.
Okay,.
D
So
an
issue
that
came
up
early
on
as
we
were
considering
the
budget
measures
was
a
change
to
the
existing
Charter
and
specifically
the
duty
of
the
mayor,
which
included
5.01
subsection
M
worked
with
City.
This
was
the
mayor.
Michelle
worked
with
City
personnel
and
timely,
prepare
an
annual
budget
and
proposed
spending
priority
for
review
and
approval
by
the
finance
committee
and
the
governing
body
and
I'm
wondering,
given
the
restructuring
I
see
under
the
mayor's
powers
and
duties
it.
D
The
M
that's
in
there
currently
says,
represent
the
city
in
governmental
relations,
so
we
had
talked
about
removing
that
section,
but
if
the
red
line
is
supposed
to
reflect
those
changes
or
changes
to
the
existing
Charter
that
change
per
se
from
the
old
subsection
M
under
the
mayor's
duties,
unless
it
appears
elsewhere,
doesn't
appear
to
be
in
the
redlined
version.
B
You
are
correct,
Commissioners.
What
we're
hearing
from
commissioner
derdach
is
the
head
of
that
subcommittee.
Really,
these
these
red
lines
are
not
representative
of
a
red
line
from
the
current
Charter.
So
it's
not
very
useful
at
this
point.
B
A
Sure
and
mine's
related
to
the
removing
ambiguity,
potentially
I
I
do
think
if
you
want
to
remove
it
in
relation
to
the
mayor's
appointment
Authority,
you
probably
want
to
say
something
like
unless
otherwise
provided
in
the
charter,
because
you
also
have
the
charter
commission
recommendation
in
here.
That
also
is
not
appointments
by
the
mayor
and
then
anyone
else
that's
created
by
by
the
commission
or
by
the
council
itself,
which
is
also
permitted
in
that
language.
We're
adding
back
so.
G
B
Can
certainly
vote
vote
on
these
amendments
to
the
report
or
revisions.
I
should
say
not
amendments.
So
can
we
hear
the
language
then?
B
G
C
B
Motion
to
ask
Aaron
what
yeah
she
recommends.
Let's
see
what
we
had
with
the
commissioner
ice.
That
said,
at
the
end
of
that
e
we're
talking
about
502
e,
with
the
exception
of
the
finance
committee,
but
maybe
we
would
just
say,
accept
as
otherwise
described
right.
A
B
B
C
B
G
B
B
B
We
have
another
motion
for
clarification.
Commissioner
Ortiz.
Maybe
you
want
to
make
this
one
that
we
include
in
the
report.
It
is
not
there,
but
the
reference
to
on
page
three
of
the
black
line.
That's
item
D.
The
city
council
shall
select
from
my
from
among
its
members
of
finance
committee
and
may
select
from
among
its
members
other
committees
to
facilitate
its
work.
B
F
C
B
Yes,
thank
you,
everyone
for
that
clarifying
discussion
and
emotions.
Are
there
any
other
revisions
that
anyone
would
like
to
suggest
to
the
report.
B
A
Okay
and
chair,
along
with
Pat
I,
think
the
first
part
of
the
of
the
footnote
is
fine,
is
just
given
that
this
report's
from
the
charter
commission.
The
second
sentence
is
more
a
prediction
of
the
future
about
my
office,
so
I
would
like
to
take
that
out.
I
don't
know
if
it
requires
a
vote,
because
because
it's.
B
If
that's
okay,
absolutely
the
other
thing
I
was
going
to
recommend
and
looking
at
this
and
again
we
rowing
This
Together
very
quickly,
but
on
page
one,
the
second
paragraph
we
say,
there's
six
substantive
amendments
and
I
think
we
have
verified
that
there
are,
and
then
we
say
there
is
also
a
section
with
four
recommendations
for
governing
body
consideration,
but
not
as
Charter
amendments.
B
B
E
Absolutely
that's
very
helpful,
and
since
this
is
a
letter
from
you,
can
we
all
do
this
by
Common
consent,
I.
B
Well,
yeah
I
think
we
can
when
it
when
we
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
report,
if
we
can
sure
include
in
that
any
you
know
non
non-substantive
right
revisions
that
that
make
it
clear
that
can
be
made
by
by
the
chair
in
that
motion.
That
would
be
fine,
yeah.
G
F
G
C
G
D
C
C
C
Granillo,
yes,
commissioner
Rod,
yes,.
G
A
Staff,
thank
you
chair
long
I
just
want
to
thank
my
team
for
all
their
work
last
week,
while
I
was
out
really
I,
very
much
appreciate
it
and
all
the
work
with
the
subcommittees
throughout
the
process
since
November.
Thank
you
very
much
and
it's
it's
been
an
interesting
process
and
I
think
we
all
learned
a
lot
as
well.
So
thank
you
all.
As
the
commissioners.
F
B
All
right,
well
I,
want
to
thank
all
of
you
for
your
hard
work
and
really
dedication
to
the
citizens
of
Santa
Fe,
because
I
think
that
was
preeminent
and
all
the
work
that
you
did
throughout
this
process.
B
You
know
you
really
kept
us
going
through
this
last
seven
months
as
if
you
didn't
have
enough
to
do,
and
you
were
always
there,
so
we
really
all
of
us.
Thank
you
for
that
and
Marcy.
Thank
you
for
jumping
in
Midstream
and
always
being
very
cheerful
about
helping
us,
and
we
appreciate
your
help
all
the
way
through
to
the
end
and
I.
Don't
know
that
Jeff
is
here,
but
you
know
you
all
didn't
always
see
all
the
work
that
Jeff
was
doing,
but
there
we
were
on
a
Friday
afternoon.
B
We've
got
to
get
the
agenda
out
and
where's
Jeff
Jeff
is
always
there
and
Jeff
was
here
there
last
Saturday
with
me,
making
more
changes
to
the
report
with
some
errors
that
were
in
there
and
he's
just
amazing.
So
you
all
need
to
keep
him,
but
he
was
he.
He
was
always
on
the
spot
and
available
at
any
time,
and
always
so
professional
and
positive,
and
that's
what
you
need
when
things
are
going
south.
You
need
positive,
so
I
I
want
to
thank
you
all.
It
has
been
really
incredible.
B
Experience
and
I
know
it
has
been
for
you
too,
and,
as
Aaron
said,
I
think
we've
all
learned
a
lot
and
and
we'll
we'll
see
what
what
comes
of
it,
but
I
certainly
enjoyed
our
work.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
All
right
next
meeting
no
meeting
scheduled
and
at
this
point
we
will
go
on
to
the
council.
Just
so
you
all
know
we're
presenting
this
report
to
the
council.
I
am
presenting
it
on
Wednesday
at
five.
B
I
have
asked
the
two
chairs
of
the
subcommittees.
If
they
can
be
there
as
a
resource
that
will
mean
we
won't
have
a
quorum.
So
we
won't
have
to
notice
a
meeting,
but
in
the
event
there
are
some
detailed
questions
that
only
they
would
know.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
but
I
had
actually
sent
you
an
email
indicating
that
I
will
be
attending
my
nephew,
Jack
hickey's
graduation
from
business
school
at
the
University
of
Georgia.
Oh.
I
D
Which
we
fly
out
to
tomorrow
and
which
is
now
happening
on
Wednesday.
It
had
been
scheduled
for
later,
but
the
university
determined
that
the
building
originally
to
house
the
graduation
was
apparently
not
fit
for
occupation,
so
they
changed
the
venue
to
one
and
move
the
date
up
several
days.
So
I
apologize
I
will
try
and
join
via
electronic
means,
if
possible,
but
yeah
I
may
not
be
there.
Okay,.
A
Thank
you,
chair
long
I
was
just
going
to
say
that
there
are
a
recognition
of
Saint,
Mike's,
varsity
basketball
team
and
a
water
update
as
the
first
two
presentations.
So
it'll
probably
be
a
little
bit
after
five.
If
anyone's
tuning
in
on
YouTube
to
watch.