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One of a series of meetings exploring health and safety initiatives in Santa Fe, New Mexico.
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We
have
about
25
folks
in
our
conference
room
as
attendees
and
we
are
providing
Spanish
interpretation
for
them.
They're
Spanish-speaking,
immigrant
families
and
residents
of
New
Mexico,
who
are
attending
we're
very
excited
about
that,
and
then
I
see
that
there
are
a
lot
of
attendees
I
will
we
will
take
any
cues
from
you
counselor
or
for
Council
Rivera,
who
I
do
not
see
on
to?
Let
us
know
if
you
would
like
others
to
be
in
this
room,
as
is
normal
for
our
meetings.
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H
K
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G
Right
so
I
just
wanted
to
share
that
Michael
Garcia
announced
that
he
was
running
for
reelection,
so
the
Press
has
been
calling
me
two
or
three
times
today.
So
I've
decided
that
I'm
not
running
for
re-election.
This
is
my
12th
year
and
that's
that's
a
lot
of
time
to
be
spending
their
night.
Just
don't
have
the
energy
anymore
and
really
feel
like
you
know
it's
time
for
new
voices
and
new
ideas
and
new
opinions
to
come
in
from
District
three.
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All
right
so
we're
on
to
presentations
for
a
diversion
program,
learning
sessions
we
have
Adam
manske,
Aiden,
Allen
and
Ames
Stenson
I,
hope
I
got
all
the
names
right
and
we'll.
Let
you
guys
take
it
away
with
whatever
you
need
to
do.
If
you
need
to
present
something,
let
us
know
we'll
make
sure
you're
able
to
do
that.
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Thank
you,
Council
River
I'm,
going
to
do
just
a
brief
introduction.
Marcela
Diaz
I'm,
a
part
of
the
task
force,
as
well
as
the
executive
director
of
Samos,
Statewide,
immigrant-based,
racial
and
worker
Justice
organization,
and
so
we're
sort
of
co-sponsoring
this
and
have
a
lot
of
folks
from
Community
as
attendees
in
this
webinar
and
we've
provided
interpretation
into
Spanish.
So
for
folks
who
want
to
use
that
interpretation
feature,
we
have
a
little
globe
on
the
right
hand,
side.
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We
also
have
attendees
our
mayor
is
an
attendee
and
listening
in
as
well
as
Sophie
and
that
who
works
for
the
city
as
a
violence,
prevention,
specialist,
I,
hope.
That's
your
right
title
Sophie.
If
not,
you
can
tell
us,
we
also
have
Ben
Bauer
on
as
an
attendee,
who
is
our
public
States
public
defender.
So
thank
you
all
and
Senator
pope
from
Albuquerque
we're
focusing
very
much,
as
you
all
know,
on
our
ability
as
a
city
to
create
alternative
approaches
and
more
robust
diversion
and
restorative
justice
programs.
C
That's
what
our
subcommittee,
that
is:
Emily
Marie,
Louise,
Council,
Rivera
me
and
and
Monica,
and
so
we've
heard
really
great
presentations
in
the
past.
We
did
a
presentation,
probably
I,
don't
know
more
than
a
year
ago,
maybe
less
than
a
year
ago,
Mary,
Louise
and
I
just
on
sort
of
these
broader
Concepts
or
restorative
justice
and
diversion
programs.
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And
so
we
are.
This
is
sort
of
a
continuation
of
that
and
we're
going
to
be
presenting
even
more
of
this
information
at
the
next
committee
meeting,
which
is
two
weeks
from
now,
as
we
in
hand
in
hand
with
our
community
engagement
process
and
Dr
Gabriel,
Sanchez
and
UNM
Center
for
social
research.
We
just
really
want
to
be
able
to
tie
these
two
things
together
as
we
move
forward
and
create
our
task
force
recommendations.
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New
Mexico
is
not
one
of
them,
and
so
we
hope
that
this
helps
spark
not
just
a
conversation
in
Santa
Fe,
but
really
at
the
state
level,
because
so
much
of
this
depends
on
our
court
system,
our
DA's
on
state
statutes
and,
and
so
we're
excited
to
have
our
three
panelists
talking
about
different
aspects
of
not
just
diversion
but
restorative
justice
programs
and
how
they
are
used
within
diversion
projects
and
programs
across
the
country
and
I.
Just
and
I
think
I'm
Adam
might
talk
about
this
a
little
bit,
but
you
know
restorative
justice.
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Ames
Stenson,
who
is
the
restorative
justice
program
manager
for
the
city
of
Inglewood,
municipal
court
and
Aiden
Allen,
who
is
the
restorative
justice
program
coordinator
from
the
Longmont
Community
Justice
partner
ownership?
This
will
talk.
We
will
talk
about
some
pre-booking
diversion
projects
and
for
those
of
you
who
participated
in
and
listened
into,
the
presentation
that
Mary,
Louise
and
I
gave
months
and
months
ago.
C
There's
so
many
different
kinds:
there's
pre-booking,
post
cooking
pre-prosecution
diversion
projects
that
DA's
run
across
the
country,
and
so
these
are
all
sort
of
the
menu
of
options
that
we
wanted
to
expose
our
community
to
as
well
as
this
task
force.
So
thank
you
all
we're
going
to
start
with
Adam
I
do
want
to
also
thank
Anna
Martinez.
She
is
at
somos
and
she's
sadly
got
my
picture
on
her
face
right
now,
but
at
some
point
maybe
she'll
turn
her
camera
on
she's.
C
This
together,
and
so
thank
you
for
doing
that,
and
then,
of
course,
our
organizers,
zulema
and
Rios,
who
are
in
the
other
room
with
again
25
folks
from
and
community
members
who
are
listening
to
this
in
Spanish.
So
we
really
appreciate
the
hard
work
that
they're
doing
to
get
folks
to
participate
in
the
surveys,
as
well
as
the
focus
groups
which
are
well
underway,
which
are
happening
through
me.
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I
want
to
say
a
few
words
about
councilor
Rivera
deciding
not
to
run
for
reelection.
Is
it
for
me
at
least
a
very
big
deal,
I
understand
his
Instinct
and
his
interest
in
being
a
grandpa,
but
he
has
served
the
city
so
well
for
so
long
and
has
been
such
a
great
Champion.
That
I
don't
think
an
announcement
like
that
in
this
meeting
should
go
un
recognized
and
he
should
have
to
own
up
to
the
fact
that
we
really
appreciate
his
service.
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M
Am
armed
and
ready
and
I
am
so
excited
to
be
here
in
your
offices
and
homes
from
my
home
in
Brooklyn,
New
York.
It
is
the
wonders
of
Zoom
right.
Sometimes
it
drives
us
crazy,
but
to
be
invited
to
meet
with.
You
is
just
thrilling
and
I'd
like
to
thank
the
mayor
and
the
state
senator
and
the
counselors
and
the
health
and
safety
task
force.
M
You
did
a
great
job
of
queuing
things
up
actually,
but
I'm
gonna
I'm
gonna
try
to
stick
to
one
word
diversion
and
when
I
say
diversion
I'm
going
to
be
basically
referring
to
the
wide
range
of
community-based
programming.
That
could
include
pre-arrest,
deflection
kind
of
programs.
It
could
include
early
diversion
by
prosecutors.
It
could
include
alternatives
to
incarceration
a
range
of
a
Continuum
of
severity
of
cases,
and
it
could
include
I
I.
M
So,
in
fact,
the
phrase
that
I
think
of
using
is
Community
First.
How
can
we
focus
our
work
on
the
needs
of
the
community?
How
can
we
make
sure
that
we're
returning
people
to
the
community
keeping
people
in
the
community
giving
them
productive,
valuable
responses
that
are
proportionate
and
don't
lead
to
the
lifetime
of
harms
that
the
traditional
responses
can
often
create
so
that's
kind
of
overall
context?
M
I
I
now
do
work
with
governments,
City
governments,
criminal
justice,
institutions,
like
prosecutors
and
and
so
forth,
to
help
them
supercharge,
diversion
and
and
so
I.
You
know
to
give
one
example:
I'm
working
in
a
county
in
New
York
state
that,
where
we
developed
a
blueprint
looking
across
the
the
range
of
ways
that
the
system
interacts
with
people
and
then
developing
a
blueprint
of
different
options
to
keep
people
well
not
to
keep
people
out
of
system
but
to
keep
people
in
the
community.
M
And
now,
over
the
last
several
years,
we've
been
systematically
developing
programs
to
achieve
that
across
the
Continuum
of
of
Criminal
Justice
engagement
and
so
in
in
that
that
particular
County.
That
includes
prosecutor-led
early
diversion
for
people
who
have
been
arrested,
but
on
fairly
low
level,
arrest,
they're,
diverted
to
brief
interventions
in
collaboration
with
the
social
services
provider,
and
if
they
complete
that
intervention.
The
prosecutor
declines
the
prosecute
the
case.
They
never
have
to
show
up,
there's
no
fee
associated
with
it.
They
never
have
to
show
up
to
court.
M
And
if
someone
has
a
prior
history
of
that,
they
will
lead
to
prison,
but
we're
looking
to
create
again
an
extensive
Social,
Services
intervention
working
with
a
community-based
provider
as
as
as
an
alternative
to
what
the
traditional
response
would
be.
I
I
came
to
this
work
from
20
20
some
odd
years,
working
at
a
non-profit
called
the
center
for
court.
Innovation
and
I
joined
that
organization.
M
I'm
a
lawyer,
but
to
plan
a
program
called
the
Red
Hook
Community
Justice
Center,
which
was
a
early
and-
and
you
know,
one
of
the
more
visible
I
guess:
Community
Court
programs
that
again
adopted
this
approach
of
trying
to
find
ways
working
only
with
misdemeanor
cases,
but
working
identifying
ways
to
keep
people
out
of
the
system.
Even
if
they
were
going
through
the
court.
M
You
know
that
organization
now
called
the
center
for
justice.
Innovation
has
a
national
footprint
and
they
provide
some
consultant
technical
assistance
around
the
country
on
different
things,
but
but
I
ran
all
of
our
New
York
City
programming
I
also
worked
in
in
a
city,
Newark
New
Jersey,
where
we
created
a
program
again
that
served
a
Continuum
of
you,
know
community-based
program,
alternatives
to
the
traditional
response
and
so
again
I
I.
You
know
one
of
the.
There
are
a
few
challenges
with
these
kinds
of
programs.
M
You
know
our
system
is
built
around
the
adversarial
system
seeking
to
find
factual
and
legal
guilt
or
innocence
through
the
trial
process.
But
in
fact,
in
the
vast
majority
of
cases
that
whole
system
is
short-circuited
through
plea,
bargaining-
and
you
know
the
the
reality
is
that
essentially
a
plea
bargain
is
a
negotiation
between
a
prosecutor
and
the
defendant
to
you
know,
reach
a
resolution
and
when
I
started
working
at
the
center
for
court,
Innovation
I
would
characterize
the
the
era.
M
Don't
know
what
New
Mexico's,
prosecutors
or
judges
are
like
for
sure,
but
I
would
say
that
I've
certainly
seen
a
change
where
many
prosecutors
and
certainly
ones
I
work
with
are
eager
to
find
different
ways
of
approaching
the
populations.
They
serve.
They're
they're
aware
of
the
issues
of
racism
and
bias
and
socioeconomic
injustices
that
have
animated
the
systems
in
the
past
and
that
can
inform
how
the
system
operates.
Now.
M
So
when
the
different
stakeholders,
like
the
prosecutors,
defense
and
judges,
were
trying
to
figure
out,
if
someone
in
front
of
them,
what
do
they
do?
We
would
have
a
social
worker
there,
who
would
say
well,
I've,
looked
at
this
person
and
here's
a
range
of
non-confinement
options
or
a
way
that
they
can
the
way
that
the
system
can
respond
to
that
person's
crime
or
whatever,
without
necessarily
giving
them
a
lifelong
conviction.
M
You
know
essentially-
and
so
some
of
it
is
is-
is
about
the
mechanics
of
creating
these
kind
of
systems
and
to
do
that.
I
think
I'm,
sure
you
folks
know
this,
but
it
really
is
about
building
a
network
of
collaboration
and
looking
beyond
the
traditional,
provide
traditional
stakeholders
of
the
Criminal
Justice
System.
M
You
know
obviously,
and
I'm
sure
you'll
hear
about
this
in
a
bit
from
the
other
panelists,
but
you
know
for
us
to
create
for
me
to
work
with
advise
a
D.A
and
help
create
a
restorative
justice
program.
The
DA's
office
is
not
going
to
be
the
provider
of
that
intervention.
They
don't.
They
won't
have
the
kind
of
neutral
credibility
and
it's
just
not
what
their
area
of
expertise
is.
M
So
you
know,
obviously
for
that
kind
of
program
and
for
most
of
these
community-based
Services,
it's
really
creating
Partnerships
with
the
range
of
service
providers
and
I
will
say
that
one
of
the
things
that
I've
seen
over
time
and
then
I'll
give
you
guys
a
break
from
me.
Talking
at
you
is
that
once
you
bring
new
players
into
the
system,
the
conversation
starts
to
change
so
that,
for
instance,
in
New
York
prosecutors
used
to
call
defendants
not
by
their
names,
but
only
defendant.
M
You
know,
and
and
in
that
way
kind
of
dehumanize
them
and
what
we've
seen
is
when
we
have
social
workers,
reporting
to
prosecutors
and
judges
on
the
progress
of
Ms,
so-and-so
or
Mr
so-and-so.
All
of
a
sudden,
you
see
that
the
prosecutor
begins
to
see
the
defendant
as
a
person
as
a
human,
and
that
has
all
sorts
of
powerful
benefits
and,
of
course,
that's
true
with
judges
and
other
players.
M
You
know
the
folks
who
believed
in
clinical
programming
fought
essentially
for
a
foothold
in
in
this
space
and
to
do
that
they
had
to
do
two
things.
They
had
to
show
that
the
response
of
the
social
services
was
robust,
that
if
you're
not
going
to
send
someone
to
jail
for
a
year
or
two
years,
you
should
have
a
very
intensive
social
services
so
that
it
in
some
ways
it's
kind
of
like
an
equal
weight
or
an
almost
like
a
similar
kind
of
punishment
in
the
obligation
in
the
minds
of
I.
M
Think
really
in
the
minds
of
prosecutors.
At
that
point,
and
also
in
the
minds
of
you,
know,
judges
and
so
forth,
and
and
and
that
led
to
the
creation
of
things
like
problem
solving
courts.
Like
drug
courts
and
Community
courts,
well,
not
so
much
community,
of
course,
but
veterans,
courts
and
mental
health
courts
and
so
forth.
M
You
know,
defendants,
enrolling
and
I
will
look
at
them
and
say
well,
that's
because
it's
only
meant
to
be
dealing
with
people
who
stole
a
candy
bar
or
whatever
that
that
the
obligation.
You
know
that
the
that,
in
fact,
the
obligation
is
so
disproportionate
from
what
the
offense
is
and,
and
so
one
of
the
things
that
I've
kind
of
preached
in
working
with
different
locations.
M
M
What
the
weight
of
the
case
is,
and
you
need
to
match
that,
because,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
someone
with
high
needs
but
arrested
on
a
very
low
level
kind
of
offense,
they
may
benefit
from
lots
and
lots
of
treatment
like
a
year
of
treatment,
but
at
the
same
time
they
it's
not
really
a
fair
response
to
obligate
them
to
do
it,
and
so
thinking
about
how
to
match
up
the
needs
with
what
the
legal
weight
is
is
very
important.
But
I
know
I've
taken
up
a
lot
of
time.
C
Right
now
yeah,
we
appreciate
that
overview
and-
and
that's
precisely
why
we
wanted
to
have
some
folks
in
Colorado
who
really
are
leading
the
country
in
many
ways
in
their
broad
spectrum
of
different
kinds
of
diversion
and
restorative
justice
program.
They
have
a
state
legislature
and
and
funding
that
is
robustly
funding
these
programs
and
so
I
think
we
are
going
to
start
with
Aiden
and
who
does
this
work
in
Longmont?
Is
that
right,
Colorado?
C
N
Yeah,
absolutely
and
first
of
all,
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
guys
for
having
me
here.
It's
definitely
an
honor
to
be
able
to
share
this
with
you
guys
and
yeah,
so
I
work
for
Longmont
Community,
Justice
partnership,
we've
been
in
the
Longmont
area
for
25
years
now,
providing
restorative
justice
services
to
the
community
and
that's
changed
a
lot
over
the
years.
N
But
that
can
be
a
little
difficult
because
we
got
a
lot
of
feedback
where,
even
with
the
training,
they
didn't
always
feel
totally
equipped
to
make
those
decisions.
They
had
to
make
them
like
really
Split,
Second
and
yeah.
Just
a
lot
of
feedback,
and
they
didn't
really
like
want
to
necessarily
be
making
those
decisions
or
wanted
a
little
bit
of
support.
So.
N
N
All
of
them
have
the
opportunity
to
receive
services,
including
restorative
justice,
instead
of
a
court
date
similar
to
that
pre-booking
model
and
yeah.
This
program
came
about
because
the
city
of
Longmont
and
probation
they
had
their
own
diversion
program
and
they
have
had
it
for.
For
many
years
that
was
post
file
and
we
kind
of
also
provided
services
to
the
city,
but
there
was
a
little
bit
of
a
disconnect
in
kind
of
the
access
points
for
receiving
this
service.
N
They
had
an
independent
contractor,
come
in
and
kind
of
evaluate
the
diversion
program
as
right.
Our
legislators
are
encouraging
kind
of
restorative
justice
across
the
state,
and
we
wanted
to
get
ahead
of
the
game
and
kind
of
decide
right
how
we
wanted
to
offer
restorative
justice
before
we
were
kind
of
told
how
to
provide
restorative
justice
to
the
community,
and
so
the
independent
evaluators
kind
of
came
in,
and
they
said
what
you're
doing
is
great.
However,
I
have
two
recommendations:
one
this
should
be
pre-file
and
two.
N
N
N
N
N
So
as
long
as
you
can
only
do
the
rewind
program
three
times
so,
youth
have
the
opportunity
to
into
this
program
three
times
and
then
we
kind
of
say
you
know
what
we
most
likely
expended
all
the
different
interventions.
That
could
be
helpful
for
these
youth
and
we
need
to
start
looking
at
some
other
options,
and
maybe
they
need
some
more
intensive
services
so
once
they
so
they
show
up
to
orientation.
We
explain
to
them
what
the
program
is.
N
N
That's
something
we
figure
is
really
important
is
making
sure
that
our
interventions
are
flexible
and
responsive
to
the
participants
that
we
work
with
outside
of
what
we
provide,
that
other
partners
provide
substance,
use
education,
counseling,
family
counseling,
parenting
classes,
decision,
making
skills,
classes,
programs
that
help
youth
to
get
closer
and
help
them
prepare
themselves
for
whatever
they
want
to
do.
Post
education,
be
it
the
job
that
they're
interested
in
college
whatever.
That
is.
N
So
we
don't
have
a
lot
of
we're
still
working
on
collecting
and
evaluating
our
data,
and
hopefully
we'll
have
that
soon
to
be
able
to
share
that
out,
but
some
anecdotal
things
that
have
been
that
I've
seen
from
this
program
is
it's
really
true
transformed
what
it
looks
like
for
youth
to
interact
with
law
enforcement,
whatever
that
is
because
I
hear
people
using
words
like.
Oh
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
and
oh
this
is
so
helpful.
N
We
have
people
who
are
like
okay,
we
didn't
find
probable
cause
in
your
case,
so
you
don't
have
to
do
this
program,
but
you
can,
if
you
want
to
and
they're
like.
Oh
we've,
I've
recently
immigrated
here,
we're
new
to
the
community
like
we
need
help
like
figuring
out
what
the
resources
and
services
are
need,
like
we're.
N
C
C
Some
of
these
larger
cultural
shifts
in
our
community.
So
we'll
be
back
to
you
Aiden
to
ask
you
more
questions
about
that.
But
here
we
have
our
next
Colorado
program
to
give
us
a
little
more
give
us
another
example
of
I.
Imagine
a
post
arrest,
post
booking
program
through
your
municipal
court
system
and
I
think
that'll
help
give
us
just
different
ideas
of
different
access
points
to
to
be
able
to
do
these
really
important
interventions.
So
I'm
gonna
invite
Ames
to
go
off,
mute
and.
O
C
O
O
Thank
you
and
yeah
just
a
echo
appreciation
for
inviting
me
to
participate
in
the
conversation
with
you
all
a
huge
thanks
to
Anna
for
inviting
me
and
I'm
excited
to
hear
and
see
the
work
that
you
all
are
involved
in.
I'm
actually
really
excited
too
that
you're
talking
about
this
within
the
context
of
Public
Health,
public,
community
health
and
safety.
O
I
think
that
at
least
in
the
state
of
Colorado,
that's
kind
of
where
our
conversations
are
going
through.
Our
Partnerships
and
collaborations
is
to
really
look
at.
How
do
we
Elevate
the
use
of
restorative
justice
practices,
specifically
within
both
the
not
only
Public
Safety
realm,
but
the
public
health
realm
as
well,
so
I'm
Ames,
Stenson
I
use
pronouns
they
them
theirs.
I
am
the
Inglewood
Municipal
Court
restorative
justice
program
manager,
I
also
wear
a
couple:
different
hats,
I'm,
the
Colorado
Coalition
for
sort
of
Justice
practices
board
president.
O
That's
a
501c6
membership
Organization
for
our
state
for
for
sort
of
Justice,
your
sort
of
practice,
practitioners
and
then
I'm
also
on
the
board
of
an
organization
called
the
restorative
rainbow
Alliance,
which
is
a
group
of
lgbtq,
plus
restorative
practitioners.
Looking
to
elevate
and
support
and
create
inclusive
restorative
justice
practices
via
training
via
VIA
programs,
those
kinds
of
things
so
really
a
pleasure
to
to
get
to
be
with
you
and
again
be
a
part
of
the
conversation.
O
So
I
can't
say
enough
good
things
about
lcjp
and
what
they
are
doing
and
and
honestly
we
were
informed
by
the
work
of
lcjp
and
other
programs
in
building
our
programs.
So
with
that
I,
it
sounds
like
many
of
you
are
familiar
and
kind
of
know
about
restorative
justice
or
sort
of
practices,
but
I
always
just
like
to
name
and
really
acknowledge
and
appreciate
that
these
roots
of
restorative
justice,
restorative
practices
are,
are
not
new
right.
This
is
not
a
new
way
of
practicing
conflict
resolution
or
Community
Building.
O
These
are
the
oldest
forms
of
of
conflict
resolution
that
there
really
are
and
that
they
really
exist
so
just
to
name
that
it's
really
important
as
practice
that
we
acknowledge
the
roots
of
these
practices
from
indigenous
communities
in
their
Aboriginal
communities
across
the
world.
So
that's
really
an
important
piece
of
of
where
and
how
we
come
from
with
this
I
also
just
want
to
name
as
far
as
kind
of
context
when
I
think
about
kind
of
what
are
these
terms
and
how
do
we
use
them?
O
What
is
the
sort
of
Justice
restorative
practices
work
that
can
happen
on
the
front
end
in
the
community
building
in
the
trust
building
in
the
relationship
building.
So
when
we're
using
the
values
of
restorative
justice,
of
those
five
hours
of
restorative
justice,
we
like
to
say
of
relationship,
respect,
responsibility,
repair
and
reintegration,
which
the
founder
of
one
of
the
founders
of
lcjp
coined
Beverly
title
when
we're
using
those
values,
we're
actually
using
them.
O
Pre-Even
an
incident
or
conflict
or
crime
even
taking
place
right,
and
so
so
I
named
the
the
piece
of
restorative
practices
can
be
both
proactive
preventative
practices.
They
can
also
be
responsive
and
reactive
responses.
There's
also
ways
we
can
be
informed.
The
use
of
informal
practices,
as
well
as
formal
practices,
I'm
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
our
Inglewood
Municipal
Court
program,
which
uses
restorative
justice
as
a
reactive
or
responsive
practice
to
when
a
crime
actually
does
occur.
So
the
way
that
we
Define
restorative
justice
in
our
program
itself
is
restorative.
O
Justice.
Practices
are
victim-centered
community-based
responses
to
a
primer
conflict
which
then
create
accountability
which
create
opportunities
for
accountability,
repairing
harm
and
restoring
relationships.
So
when
we
say
that
they're
victim-centered,
similarly
to
what
Aiden
mentioned,
we
always
ask
a
harmed
party.
Do
you
give
consent
for
the
case
to
come
through
sort
of
justice,
so
their
voice
is
really
Central.
O
They
then
have
different
ways
of
being
able
to
participate
in
the
program
if
they
would
like
to
it's
Community
Based,
because
we
use
a
restorative
justice
model
called
the
community
group
conferencing
model
that
invites
community
members
to
participate
in
the
facilitated
conversation
of
who's
been
harmed.
What
needs
to
be
done
to
repair
that
harm?
O
How
is
it
going
to
be
done
right
in
creating
that
accountability
contract,
and
so
it's
it's
many
different
voices,
all
of
the
folks
that
have
been
impacted,
including
the
larger
community,
in
those
conversations
and
then
again,
similarly
to
what
Aiden
was
saying,
we
use
that
model
of
coming
together
for
a
facilitated
conversation
to
emphasize
accountability.
Where
is
there
opportunities
for
apparent
harm
and
ultimately
restoring
those
relationships?
O
I
will
also
just
say
that
our
our
program
fits
really
well
within
our
community
court.
So
we
are
a
program,
that's
situated
in
the
Inglewood
Municipal
Court,
also
just
to
give
you
a
little
context.
If
you
don't
know,
Inglewood
is
just
south
of
Denver
we're
actually
a
very
small
little
Community
about
35
000
people,
believe
it
or
not.
We
have
a
probably
double
that
come
in
to
work
in
our
community,
but
as
far
as
who
lives
here,
so
we're
a
pretty
small
municipality
and
our
community
court
is
really
dedicated
to
in
men.
O
We
did
in
fact
start
these
conversations,
informally
in
Inglewood
2018-2019
and
then
in
2020.
We
were
able
to
pull
together
a
collaborative
advisory
team,
so
we
had
folks
from
courts,
including
our
victim
services
coordinator
and
and
folks
from
Patrol.
We
had
people.
Excuse
me
people
from
police.
We
also
have
people
from
courts
at
the
time
we
had
people
from
the
city,
so
we
had
our
neighborhood
resources
coordinator
and
people
from
Communications.
O
O
O
We
had
62
percent
of
the
cases
that
we
held
involved
the
harmed
party.
So
again
they
have
options.
Overall,
it's
a
voluntary
process
for
everyone
involved,
but
a
harmed
party
can
choose.
Do
they
want
to
participate?
They
have
to
give
consent.
If
they
give
consent,
then
do
they
want
to
participate
in
person.
O
So
again,
the
data
that
I
actually
always
go
back
to
lcjp,
because
even
prior
to
the
new
program
with
youth,
especially
lcgp,
has
a
lot
of
data
to
show
how
this
community
group
conferencing
model
really
works
and
how
successful
it
is.
I
I
still
think
y'all
are
probably
the
standard
of
recidivism
we're
not
there
yet
on
measuring.
But
that's
our
hope
is
to
that's
my
opening
way
as
to
how
do
we
get
to
the
levels
of
lcjp?
If
you
know
I
think
it's
under
like
at
times
eight
or
five
percent.
O
So
it's
it's
successful
for
sure.
Our
our
program
takes
both
Youth
and
adult
cases.
So
for
for
youth
cases,
we
are
a
pre-arraignment
program,
so
the
officers
are
writing
a
ticket,
but
then
they
are
recommending
the
case
go
through
your
sort
of
Justice.
Our
city
prosecutor
takes
a
look
at
the
ticket,
I
get
to
take
a
look,
and
ultimately
he
decides.
Does
this
go
to
RJ
or
not,
which
99
of
the
time
he's
sending
to
RJ,
and
so
it's
pre-arraignment
for
youth?
O
It's
it's
host,
arraignments,
considered
a
deferred
prosecution
for
adults,
and
so
we
that
was
one
of
the
the
conversations
that
we
had
is:
how
do
we
build
in
the
system
so
that,
if
someone
says
I,
don't
actually
want
to
go
through
sort
of
Justice
or
they
reoffend
during
the
time
or
they
say
yeah
I
want
to
go
through
restorative
justice,
but
then
kind
of
fall
off
the
radar
and
we're
not
able
to
find
them.
What
what
does
the
case
go
away?
What
do
we?
What
do
we
do?
O
We're
actually
in
the
place
right
now,
where
we're
looking
to
expand
to
also
create
free
file
options
and
we're
also
looking
at
how
can
we
work
with
cities
that
are
nearby
to
us,
that
we
call
kind
of
a
Tri-City
area
to
do
some
collaborative
work
so
that
you
know
we're
not
recreating
the
wheel
in
our
smaller
municipalities
here
in
South,
Denver
Metro,
so
I
think
I'm
going
to
pause
there
because
I'm
sure
there's
lots
of
questions
and
yeah.
Thank
you
so
much
for
allowing
me
to
share.
C
A
C
C
What
the
only
thing
I
would
like
to
just
sort
of
preface
this
with
is
you
know,
Sophie
and
that
who's
a
an
attendee
and
works
for
the
city
and
I
are
really
trying
to
do
within
the
next
couple
of
weeks,
just
a
landscape
analysis
of
what
programs
are
available
and
for
those
of
us
who
have
worked
in
RJ.
Like
you
know,
we
saw
a
lot
of
money
dry
up
during
the
Martinez
Administration,
the
Susana
Martinez
Administration,
for
diversion
programs.
And
what
happens?
Is
it
really
affected?
C
In
my
opinion,
and
and
we'll
have
more
of
this
next
next
meeting,
but
sort
of
a
a
robust
info?
It
affected
the
supply
of
practitioners
of
programs
of
non-profit.
It's
that
we're
doing
this
work
and
what
I'm
hearing
from
all
of
these
presentations
is
that
there
needs
to
be
an
infrastructure
of
Services,
of
practitioners
of
facilitators
of
and
and
volunteers,
and
that's
something
that
as
we
move
forward,
we
have
to
think
about
how
how
that
grows.
C
E
Thank
you,
Monticello,
and,
and
thank
you
panelists
for
coming
and
sharing
your
work
with
us.
I'll
just
share
briefly
so
I'm
a
former
public
defender
and
as
far
as
I'm
aware,
we
have
one
diversion
program
in
Statue.
It's
called
the
pre-prosecution
diversion
program
and
it's
a
post
arrest,
post
booking
and
for
me
personally,
I
rarely
I
probably
had
one
client
go
through
the
PPD
program
in
my
entire
career
as
a
public
defender
in
part
because
it
was
expensive.
E
E
O
Yeah,
but
so
right
now
the
there's
a
there's
one
position:
that's
funded
by
the
city
for
for
my
position
and
then
and
we're
looking
to
again
expand
services
to
kind
of
a
Tri-City
area,
so
that
folks
can
share
funding
and
things
like
that
and
we'll
be
more
eligible
for
for
Grants
and
things.
So
we're
looking
at
expanding
that,
but
as
far
as
actual
B
to
the
participant
yeah,
there
is
so
for
juveniles
right
now,
there's
a
75
dollar
program
fee
and
then
for
adults.
A
O
N
N
A
lot
of
the
other
interventions
also
receive
funding
from
the
city,
such
as
the
youth
center.
They
do
all
this
work
outside
of
being
a
part
of
this
diversion
model
too,
and
their
funding
all
comes
from
the
city
as
a
resource
for
youth
in
Longmont
in
general
and
yeah.
There's
a
75
fee
to
participate
in
rewind.
However,
they
can
do
community
service
to
instead,
if
that
is
a
burden
that
fee
and
also
to
participate
in
our
community
group.
N
Conferencing
is
a
125
fee,
but
we
also
offer
a
sliding
scale
based
on
their
income
if
they,
if
again
that's
going
to
be
difficult
for
them,
and
we've
made
sure
to
use
the
the
cost
of
living
like
most
up-to-date
for
Boulder
County.
So
it's
pretty
easy
to
get
that
bumped
down
significantly
just
due
to
the
yeah,
the
crazy
cost
of
living.
These
days.
M
M
Why
I
think
that's
the
right
thing
in
New,
Jersey
the
same
and
and
we
I
helped
launch
a
diversion
program,
a
prosecutor-led
diversion
program
in
Birmingham
Alabama
last
year
and
the
D.A
there
was
thrilled
because
it
really
was
a
diversion
program,
the
first
diversion
program
in
the
state
as
far
as
he
knows
that
did
not
charge
the
participants
of
fee.
Now
that
said,
I
mean
that
said,
you've
got
to
fund
the
program
and
and
that's
obviously
working
with
a
range
of
government,
funders
and
I.
E
Can
I
just
say:
I
really
appreciate
those
answers.
New
Mexico
is
one
of
the
poorest
states
in
the
country
and
as
a
public
defender
and
then
now
in
this
role,
I've
I've
seen
people
go
to
jail
to
pay
off
as
little
as
a
hundred
dollars.
So
you
know
what
could
seem
like
something
really
small
for
some
folks
is
huge
for
others
and
will
be
a
huge
barrier
to
anybody
participating
in
any
kind
of
diversion
or
restorative
justice
programming,
especially
families,
people
on
fixed
incomes.
E
E
The
last
thing
I
just
want
to
share
if
you'll,
let
me
Marcella
is,
is
that
I
really
appreciated
you
all
talking
about
the
severity
of
the
crime
meeting,
the
sort
of
actions
in
the
the
diversion
program
or
the
restorative
justice?
What
I've
seen
in
my
career
is
that
it
will
be
a
pretty
minor
crime,
but
then
the
you
know
the
sort
of
sometimes
quote
unquote
restorative
part
and
I'm.
Not
saying
this
of
all
programs
I'm
just
saying
what
sometimes
happens
in
practice
is
people
are
required
to
do
I
mean
backflips.
E
You
know
over
and
over
for
multiple
years
right
to
the
point
where
I
would
I
would
sort
of
try
and
steer
people
away
from
that,
because
there
was
just
so
many
things.
People
would
have
to
do
in
order
to
complete
it,
and
there
was
always
fear
that
they
would
then
fail.
After
you
know,
they
would
have
already
been
out
of
out
of
custody
already
over
with
the
case.
Had
we
gone
the
traditional
route,
so
I'd
love
to
sort
of
I.
E
Don't
I
don't
know
if
this
is
a
question
I'm,
so
sorry
I
hate
it
when
people
do
this
so
now
I'm
doing
it.
But
you
know
if
anybody
has
any
thoughts
about
how
you
all
have
balanced,
that
with
your
own
programs,
both
with
the
community
and
state
and
other
stakeholders
and
legislators
or
or
you
know,
electeds.
M
I
I'm
sorry
I'll
just
answer
quickly,
but
I
know
other
people
have
questions
and
other
people
should
answer
too.
But
this
is
that
that
is
years
of
working
with,
particularly
again
in
in
in
the
instance
I'm
most
used
to
it's
the
prosecutors
who
are
driving
much
of
the
plea
bargain
negotiation,
and
it's
getting
them
to
understand
that
they
can
create
a
beautiful
program.
M
You
know
support
a
beautiful
program,
but
if
there's
so
many
obligations
that
it's
impossible
for
people
to
succeed
or
they're,
not
no
one's
going
to
participate
in
it,
and
so
what
we
saw
was
in
in
New
York.
In
my
experience
we
saw
prosecutors
start
shifting
from
creating
these
very
intense
penalties
for
failure
like
if
you
don't
complete
the
program.
M
You
end
up
with
a
worse
sentence
than
you
would
have
had,
or
whatever
to
make
scaling
that
down
to
giving
people
credit
for
trying
to
participate
and
just
generally
I
think
that
it
it
it.
It
signaled
a
bit
of
a
culture
shift
in
understanding
that
the
goal
is
to
get
as
many
people
into
these
programs
as
possible.
But
to
do
that
it
has
to
be
proportionate.
N
I
can
reply
really
quick
yeah,
so
the
most
intensive
intervention
that
we
provide
in
rewind
is
like
a
10-week
program.
So
when
you're
talking
about
like
a
year
multiple
years,
that's
like
astounding
to
me,
because
yeah
that
seems
really
incredibly
difficult,
especially
when
you're
like
contrasting
it
to
like
what
would
happen
if
they
had
gone
the
traditional
method.
But
we
understand
that
we
have
three
chances
with
these
kids
before
they
hit
18.,
and
so
you
know
we're
okay
with
seeing
them
again
and
trying
again
with
another
intervention.
N
If
that's
what
what
needs
to
happen-
and
we
also
have
like
case
managers,
and
so
when
we're
looking
at
like
treatment
options,
it's
not!
Okay,
you
need
to
complete
a
year.
You
need
to
complete
two
years
of
treatment.
It's
like
okay,
let's
figure
out
how
to
get
you
treatment
that
you
can
afford
and
get
you
connected
with
the
therapist.
N
That's
going
to
be
good
for
me
for
you
and
we
will
trust
you
to
take
it
from
there
right
if
that's
truly
going
to
be
something,
that's
beneficial
to
you
and
again,
like
we'll
only
providing
that
kind
of
things
when
they're
saying
like.
Yes,
therapy
would
be
awesome,
could
you
help
me
get
in
contact
with
therapy
and-
and
there
was
something
else,
but
it's
okay,
I
forget.
O
I'll,
just
jump
in
and
add
that
are
the
average
contract
for
our
programs
about
three
months,
so
mostly
people
are
in
and
done
and
completed
by
about
six
months
so
same
we
don't
try
to
extend.
We
want
people,
we
say
this
too.
We
want
people
to
be
set
up
for
Success.
So
how
can
we
do
that
and
how
do
we
work.
J
Okay,
great
well,
thank
you
Palace.
This
is
really
exciting
to
hear
about
all
your
programs
and
especially
with
juvenile
participants,
so
it
can
help
prevent
kind
of
pervasive
involvement
with
JJ,
and
my
question
really
relates
to
the
organizational
infrastructure
in
terms
of
kind
of
the
Genesis
of
these
programs,
and
it
sounds
like
Aiden,
your
program's,
independent,
non-profit
and
I'm,
not
sure
if
I
understood
completely
but
Ames,
it
sounds
like
yours
is
more
embedded
in
a
court,
and
my
question
is:
do
some
of
these
programs?
Are
they?
O
Yeah
you're
right
Annie
that
our
program
is
within
the
court
right
now,
I
I
would
say
this
is
my
reading
Nick.
Please
I'd
love
to
hear
your
thoughts
too.
Around
this.
As
far
as
Colorado
goes
I
mean
we
have
over
50
different
programs
or
sort
of
Justice
programs
in
our
state,
I'd
say
there
are
a
handful,
a
couple
that
are
within
some
kind
of
Municipal
Court
or
certainly
within
District
Attorney's
offices.
O
O
You
know
Bridge
Builders,
with
these
system
entities,
so
we
haven't
found
too
many
other
court
programs
here
in
Colorado,
Adam
I,
don't
know
if
you're
aware
of
kind
of
where
other
programs
are
situated
around
this
in
municipal
courts,
but
I
can
only
I
can
think
of
maybe
two
others
here
in
Colorado
that
are
actually
based
with
the
report.
For
now
and
honestly.
That
was
just
kind
of
a
starting
point
that
was
kind
of.
O
M
Respond
there
and
I'll
just
add
that
New
York
is
more
complicated,
but
in
New
Jersey,
actually
it
was.
It
was
Corey
Booker.
When
he
became
mayor
he
he
had
seen
some
of
the
work
we
had
done
in
in
New
York
and
he
told
his
municipal
judge.
This
is
a
program.
I
I
want
to
see
this
kind
of
work,
I
want
to
see
it
in
Newark,
and
so
that
was
a
city
funded
directly
City
funded
program,
but
they
brought
my
non-profit
into.
M
Actually,
you
know
provide
the
the
core
Services,
the
the
resource,
coordination,
the
social
work
and
and
then
that's
kind
of
expanded
out
to
a
whole
range
of
community-based
programs
beyond
the
court.
But
there
is
this
kind
of
core
it's
in
the
court,
it's
part
of
the
city,
but
it
is
actually
you
know
a
non-profit,
that's
providing
that
function
so.
N
So
much
you
know
before
we
were
training
resource
officers
and
providing
trainings
to
schools,
and
we
found
some
like
just
incredible
people
that
are
within
those
police
departments
and
the
courts
that
advocated
for
the
work
that
we
were
doing
as
we
were
working
with
them
and
yeah.
Having
a
lot
of
conversations
with
the
police
chief
and
the
chief
of
the
department,
Public
Safety,
on
how
we
can
continue
to
expand
that
and
provide
as
much
to
our
communities
as
possible.
So
just
really
would
emphasize
the
the
power
of
building
those
Partnerships.
I
Emily
thanks
really
great
presentations.
Thank
you.
So
much
for
sharing
about
your
programs.
I've
been
sitting
here.
Thinking
about
how
successful
these
RJ
programs
can
be
and
whether
there's
an
opportunity
to
shift
them
out
of
the
criminal
legal
system.
I
know
in
some
cases
you
know
one
you
know
aims.
I
M
M
At
the
end
of
the
day,
though
it
it
is
requiring
a
lot
of
support
from
a
lot
of
different
partners
that
you
may
or
may
not
have
as
much
control
over
including
police
and
so
to
the
extent
you
can
get,
for
instance,
police,
to
divert
cases
or
deflect
cases.
So
the
arrest
isn't
happening
at
all.
That's
great
to
the
extent
you
can
intervene
at
the
school
level
so
that
you
know
nothing.
You
know,
young
people
are
given
an
opportunity.
I
think
that's
fantastic,
but
I
I
still
assess
the
problem.
M
M
At
the
point
of
you
know
a
decision
and
do
we
decide
like
that's
someone
else's
problem,
or
we
should
have
taken
care
of
this
earlier,
or
do
we
also
figure
out
how
to
support
the
people
coming
through?
In
that
context,
and
and
so
for
me,
I
I,
just
I
I
feel
like
there's
still
a
lot
of
people
who
are
coming
through
the
system,
they're,
probably
going
to
continue
coming
through
the
system
for
some
time,
and
so,
let's
figure
out
how
to
make
the
most
meaningful
opportunities
out
of
this.
M
M
What
we've
seen
are
far
fewer
people
who
are
actually
ending
up
in
drug
treatment
courts
in
New
York
and
as
a
result
again,
it's
thinking
about
how
defendants
voting
with
their
feet
or
what
what's
there
and
so
I've
been
involved
in
creating
a
whole
bunch
of
like
more
I,
would
characterize
them
as
harm
reduction
models.
Where
people
you
know,
participate
in
programming,
hopefully
the
penalties
again.
M
Aren't
you
know
it's
not
about
gaming
them,
but
it's
about
kind
of
trying
to
reduce
some
of
the
harms,
but
these
are
still
people
who
have
been
arrested,
and
so
how
do
we
deal
with
that
fact?
At
the
same
time,
if
you
can
advocate
for
change
in
legislation,
you
know,
I
was
also
involved
in
in
New
York,
very
low
level.
Criminal
charge
was
public
urination.
It
was
a
civil,
but
but
I
mean
it
wasn't
civil.
It
was,
it
was
a
city-based.
M
M
O
Yeah
I
can
add
as
well
so
I
think
we
have
a
long
way
to
go
on
that.
I
really
appreciate
your
question
me
one
of
the
things
that
so
we
work
really
closely
with
our
school
district
here,
which
is
quite
small,
and
one
of
the
things
that
that
we
keep
saying
is
just
because
the
court
has
an
RJ
program
doesn't
mean
we
want
more
cases
right.
O
We
would
actually
love
to
support
you
in
using
restorative
practices
in
the
school
districts
before
it
even
comes
to
the
court,
and-
and
so
you
know,
that's
that's
been
a
lot
of
conversation
and
ongoing
conversation
so
that
we
can
at
least
provide
data
from
our
program
now
to
say:
here's
the
number
of
cases
we're
receiving
from
each
of
your
schools.
What
are
the
options
there
of
utilizing
that
and
using
these
practices
in-house
we'd?
O
Much
rather
help
use
our
our
volunteer
pool
to
come
into
the
schools
and
and
do
a
community
group
conference
there
versus
have
someone
get
ticketed
and
come
to
our
court
program.
So
it's
a
great
question.
We
have
a
lot
of
work
to
do.
I
would
say
that,
like
similarly
on
the
front
of
like
just
over
criminalized
criminal
criminalizing,
you
know
homelessness
sitting
on
sidewalks.
Those
kinds
of
things
like
our
city,
like
many
others,
are,
are
kind
of
bumping
up
against.
O
How
do
we
work
with
folks
who
are
experiencing
homelessness
and
what
their
needs
are
and
I
would
say,
there's
more
internal
work
to
be
done
around
again:
the
values
of
restorative
justice
for
sort
of
practices.
What
does
that
look
like
in
some
of
these
crimes
versus
just
continuing
to
give
tickets,
and
then
people
don't
show
up
and
now
they
have
warrants
and
all
the
things
which
we
see
quite
a
bit.
O
So
one
of
the
things
that
I'm,
hoping
as
we're
kind
of
looking
to
transition
out
of
just
solely
a
court
program,
is
how
could
we
have
conversations
with
businesses
Community
folks
from
the
homeless
communities
to
say:
let's,
let's
have
a
sort
of
conversation
about
that?
What
are
your
needs?
What
would
you
like?
How?
What
do
you
need?
Let's
hear
each
other
in
those
proactive
conversations
before
even
tickets
are
given:
let's
bring
in
you
know:
officers
let's
bring
in
business
owners,
Etc
community
members,
so
I
think
bless.
N
Yeah
I
know
I
Echo
a
couple
things
that
amesa
said
just
about
there's
two
ways
that
we
can
provide
restorative
justice
right
those
reactionary
ways
or
that
prevention
and
partnering
with
the
courts
in
this
wake
and
seeing
every
youth
case
that
comes
in
gives
us.
This
amazing
ability
to
really
Target
like
where
the
areas
for
prevention
are
needed
like
right.
Now
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
violence
associated
with
some
shooting
deaths
that
we've
seen
so
we're
beginning
to
provide
healing
circles
to
the
community.
N
C
C
Aiden
you're
Frozen,
so
we're
gonna,
stop
that
until
you
come
back
in
but
I
do
just
wanna
I'll
take
this
opportunity,
because
there
are
a
couple
of
questions
that
have
been
answered
in
the
chat
and
then
we
can
go
back
to
committee
members
and
it
looks
like
Aiden
is
still
frozen
frozen,
but
we
have
a
question
here
from
this:
almost
crew.
What
happens
if
one
of
the
parties
breaks
the
accountability
contract
aims?
You've
already
said
you
responded.
C
It
means
we
have
a
check-in
conversations
to
understand
what
happened
and
to
see
if
we
can
move
forward
with
the
RJ
process
or
if
the
case
needs
to
go
back
to
the
traditional
court
process.
We
also,
this
is
I,
think
important
because
most
of
the
folks
in
the
other
room
are
parents-
and
you
know
Spanish-speaking
parents
from
our
community
and
it's
you
know
how.
How
are
parents
involved
in
this
process
and
Ames?
C
You
talk
about
a
parent
or
a
guardian
needing
to
participate,
or
at
least
consent
have
given
consent
for
their
youth
to
participate
and
to
have
another
adult
participant
with
them.
That
may
not
always
be
possible,
and
so
are
there
ways
that
you
work
around.
That
I
mean
not
all
parents
have
time,
I
mean
we
know
that
we
have
often
two
jobs,
because
even
though
we
have
a
14
minimum
wage,
it's
just.
C
O
Sure
so
sometimes
we'll
just
we'll,
if
the
parent
or
Guardian
legally,
they
have
to
give
consent
for
their
kiddo
to
go
through
the
process.
But
if
they're
not
able
to
participate,
is
there
a
family
member?
Is
there
a
grandparent?
Is
there
a
teacher?
Is
there
a
mentor,
someone
that's
an
adult
in
their
life,
someone
that's
connected
to
school.
That
could
be
their
support
person.
O
Ultimately,
we
want
to
try
to
bring
in
someone
who
is
an
adult
in
their
life
that
they
have
a
good
relationship
with
that
they
trust
to
be
a
part
and
with
them
in
the
process.
So
yeah.
We
can
work
around
that
once
we
get
parents
to
kind
of
sign
off
and
say
yes,
it's
okay
for
my
kiddo
to
go
to
the
express.
C
And
I
also
think
it
speaks
to
this
committee
and
its
recommendations
on
and
the
focus
groups
and
the
community
engagement
that
isn't
just
about
these
particular
interventions
when
it
comes
to
crime
and
laws
and
breaking
of
rules,
but
also
sort
of
the
broader
needs
in
our
community
to
make
us
feel
safe
and
thriving.
We
have
some
questions
on
just
from
selfie
for
the
programs
that
enroll
youth.
C
Could
you
please
elaborate
on
what
constitutes
a
mandatory
arrest
and
that's
a
pretty
quick
answer,
and
then
she
also
asks
I
heard
substance
use
education
mentioned
as
service
for
youth
in
the
Longmont
program.
Our
youth
also
provided
outpatient.
Opiate
use,
Disorder
medication
options
as
part
of
The
Suite
of
services
following
a
diagnosis
from
a
qualified
medical,
professional.
A
N
Yeah,
so
a
mandatory
arrest
is
anything
that
where
they
have
to
arrest
them
and
book
them
so
like
a
DUI
is
an
example
of
that
that
assault
with
a
deadly
weapon
again
an
example
of
that
anything
where
they
have
to
go
and
get
booked
into
jail
and
have
their
mugshot
taken
and
then
yeah.
We
provide
substance
education.
N
B
Did
you
just
ask
me
uh-huh,
you
always
do
so
I
figured
I
was
like
I,
just
heard
a
little
piece
of
it
too.
Sorry
for
some
reason,
my
the
power
went
off
at
my
home
and
then
I
had
to
re-engage
here
so
I
don't
know
if
I
missed
any
other
questions
that
I
thought
I
had
or
that
other
people
had
that
were
similar
to
mine,
but
I
think
I
was
I
was
interested
in
those
interventions.
Well,
first,
let
me
thank
the
panelists
for
your
expertise.
B
It's
really
important
to
hear
the
different
levels
of
programming
and
how
they're
embedded
into
community-
and
you
know
how
they
actually
are
community-based
responses.
I
really
appreciate
that
I
think
what
I'm
interested
in
there's
well
a
lot
of
things
swirling
in
my
head,
like
how
does
this
work
for
the
City
of
Santa
Fe?
What
are
we
doing
now
that
works
or
is
not
working
and
I
really
can't
answer
that
I
think
there's
community
members
and
the
new
staff
that
we
have
that
is
really
supposed
to
engage
in
this
area.
B
N
We
do
provide
a
restorative
theater
program
to
youth,
it's
more
directed
at
some
of
the
younger
youth
that
we
get
or
youth
that
are
having
trouble
with
like
figuring
out.
What's
safe,
accountability
can
look
like,
so
that
is
really
modeled
in
a
way
for
kids
who
need
to
move
around
while
they
learn
as
well
as
kids,
who
are,
you
know,
maybe
having
trouble
with
taking
accountability
for
their
actions.
N
Okay,
like
let's
give
you
the
opportunity
to
like
move
around,
do
meditative
exercises
to
get
your
creative
juices
flowing
and
be
able
to
really
use
your
voice
in
a
group
around
your
peers
and
talking
about
what
your
experience
was
and
what
you
can
hold
yourself
accountable
for
in
a
way
that's
on
like
okay,
and
then
that
means
we're
going
to
contract
you
in
these
ways.
It's
just
okay,
we're
bringing
you
here
to
share
and
like
make
that
feel
better
and
safer
for
you,
I.
B
H
N
N
So
yeah
restorative
conversations
is
kind
of
one
of
the
basis
of
restorative
justice.
Where
it's?
How
do
we
have
conversations
about
conflict?
How
do
we
come
to
agreements?
How
do
we
express
our
needs
in
a
way?
That's
not
going
to
further
or
escalate
a
conflict
and
just
giving
those
tools
to
students,
so
they
know
how
to
how
to
express
themselves
and
have
their
needs
met
and
how
to
maybe
Contracting
in
some
agreements
between
two
people
who
are
in
Conflict.
N
So
that
would
be
a
great
example
of
a
way
that
that
can
be
preventative
where
resource
officers
can
like
notice,
a
conflict
that
may
escalate
into
an
offense,
but
isn't
there
yet
and
then
you
can,
let
us
know
and
bring
us
in
to
try
and
have
a
restorative
conversation
before
it
needs
to.
It
comes
into
a
fight
or
something
like
that.
B
Officials,
non-profit
Partners,
there's
quite
a
few
ways
that
I
think
you
could
utilize
that
you
know
conflict
resolution
how
people
can
actually
have
their
needs
met,
but
also
like
hear
from
others
about
what
they're
experiencing
I
don't
know.
If
we
got
all
the
questions
I,
because
I
was
offer
a
bit
but
Sophie
had
questions
were
those
all
answered
that
came
in
through
the
Q
a
we.
P
P
I
do
restorative
justice
for
the
Santa,
Fe,
Public,
Schools
and
there's
three
of
us
and
I'm
just
curious
as
to
what
kind
of
referrals
do
you
get
that
are
outside
of
the
school
I
know
that
you
did
talk
about
marijuana
use.
Could
you
share
what
other
referrals
that
you
might
get,
and
then
my
second
part
is,
is
one
of
the
things
that
I've
noticed
has
been
really
helpful
in
our
district?
P
Is
re,
a
re-entry
for
students
that
are
referred
to
my
program
so
I'm
located
at
one
school
but
I
work
at
all
of
the
high
schools.
I
have
a
middle
school
restorative
justice
coordinator
that
works
in
all
the
middle
schools
and
then
an
elementary
one,
and
so
I'm
I'm
curious
number
one.
What
kind
of
referrals
do
you
get
and
how,
after
you,
do
the
restorative
justice
facilitation
after
you
do
the
healing
Circle
whatever
it
is
that
they're
involved
in?
P
O
But
but
we
also
because
we're
a
court
program.
Our
assumption
is
that
the
school
has
done
everything
that
they
can
on
a
restorative
end,
to
work
with
this
kiddo
around.
What's
needed
for
them,
and
so,
if
that
means
to
you
know
a
reintegration
circle
within
the
school,
then
we
hope
that
that's
happening.
But
as
far
as
right
now,
the
way
that
our
program
works.
We
don't
do
a
reiteration
circle.
O
N
Yeah,
the
type
of
referrals
we
get
very
similar
to
what
Ames
shared
and
again,
we
yeah
similar.
We
don't
provide
reintegration
circles.
However,
we
have
trained
our
school
resource
officers
to
provide
those
in
instances
of
suspension
and
they
can
reach
out
to
us
for
support
when
they
need
it,
but
they
have
those
skills
to
hold
those
circles.
P
No
thank
you
for
sharing
I
I
just
want
to
share
with
you
all.
It's
probably
a
good
thought
for
it.
I've
noticed
that
when
I
bring
students
back
to
where
we
got
the
referral
and
they
have
the
opportunity
to
talk
about
what
they
learned
and
what
they'll
do
differently
that
it's
allowed
for
that
relationship
with
who
they're
reporting
that
to
to
now
have
this
new
relationship
with
this
student.
They
they
know
they
can
go
to
that
person
to
ask
for
support
in
the
future.
C
C
But
if
it
again,
if
there
is
an
arrest,
the
schools
don't
get
control,
you
know
lose
control
of
that
kid
too,
and
then
the
city
does,
and
so
it's
it's
a
tall
order,
but
we
have
to
build
something
basically
from
scratch.
In
our
city
and
rebuild
something-
and
so
my
question
for
those
of
you
who
have
built
things
from
scratch,
how
do
you
it's?
C
My
part
with
what?
What
does
it
take?
What
did
it
take
to
build
this
program
from
scratch?
Aims
in
your
community
of
35,
000.,
Aiden
I
know
that
Longmont.
The
partnership
has
had
just
this
long
trajectory
of
building
a
culture
that
now
allows
for
all
youth
to
be
diverted
or
most
used
to
be
diverted
and
that
took
years.
C
N
N
One
of
the
biggest
things
was
just
getting
people
into
circles,
letting
people
see
the
work
and
letting
that
speak
for
itself
and-
and
you
know,
you'd
have
a
lot
of
the
times
when
we're
just
starting
and
just
getting
officers
into
circles
and
when
they
stand
they're
like
oh
wait
a
second,
this
isn't
like
the
Kumbaya
or
whatever
I
thought
it
was
like.
This
is
really
effective
and
you
are
still
holding
them
accountable
and
like
like
wow
like
that
was
an
amazing
experience,
but
yeah.
It's
definitely
definitely
a
tall.
M
I'll
I'll
just
add
a
few
bits.
First
of
all,
you
have
tremendous
resources.
You
have
what
seems
to
be
some
amazing
City
infrastructure,
whether
it's
the
mayor,
City,
councilors
or
the
folks
here
who
are
present
in
in
this
and
probably
many
many
others
and
and
the
non-profits
who
are
present
and
and
that's
the
raw
material
and
something
very
exciting.
M
And
so
while
we
were
doing
that,
we
used
that
time
to
create
some
other
projects
that
could
start
to
deliver
and
change
culture.
So,
for
instance,
at
that
time
we
we
were
able
to
create
an
Americorps
program
that
had
50
community
members
participating
in
it.
You
know
that
that
may
not
be
an
option
now,
but
that
was
because
we
knew
we
could
deliver
something
and
and
start
a
community
conversation.
M
O
Yeah
I
I
go
out
in
what
you're
sharing
as
well
as
Aiden
I.
Think
I
would
just
add
that,
and
this
is
what
I
really
love
about
short
Justice.
It's
not
out
there.
It's
actually
our
own
work
right,
it's
a
it's,
the
invitation
to
do
the
work
ourselves
and
so
the
more
that
we
as
people
who
want
to
build
and
and
see
these
programs
Thrive
and
grow,
and
we
know
that
it
works.
O
If
we're
not
doing
the
work
ourselves,
it's
just
one
more
thing
in
the
to-do
box
right,
and
so
it's
really
about
that
culture
change
internally
for
ourselves,
the
way
that
we
engage
with
each
other,
the
way
that
we
hold
meetings
together.
How
do
we
understand
it
in
our
own
lives
in
a
way
that
then,
the
work
we're
doing
is
restorative
as
we're
building
these
programs
and
integrating
and
engaging
in
community
that
people
feel
a
difference
right
people
know
it
when
they're
participating
in
something
that
feels
different.
O
That's
counter-cultural,
different
narrative,
it
feels
different,
and
so
that's
where
I
think
when
we
can
practice
that
ourselves
and
then
with
each
other.
That's
how
people
see.
Oh,
this
isn't
just
one
more
thing
that
now
I
have
to
do,
because
someone
said
it
had
to
do.
I
actually
feel
better
in
engaging
in
this
way,
and
so
again,
I'll
Echo,
all
the
things
that
were
shared,
but
also
starting
from
our
own
selves
and
how
we
engage
and
participate
together.
I
think
is
really
really
key
as
well.
C
Well,
we
really
appreciate
all
of
you
for
sharing
this.
This
is
a
continued
conversation.
We
are
really
interested
in
bringing
our
city
along
in
these
conversations
with
us,
which
is
why
we
have
an
interpreter
and
why
we
had
this
be
a
webinar
and
sent
this
out
widely.
We
did
have
a
lot
of
folks
on
today's
call,
so
thank
you
all
and
we're
going
to
move
forward.
I
again
want
to
acknowledge
our
organizers
here
at
somos
who
are
and
all
of
the
folks
in
the
community.
C
D
C
G
Well,
thank
you
Marcela.
For
setting
this
up.
It
was
a
great
clearly.
We
went
a
little
over
what
we
normally
do,
but
it
was
great
conversation,
great
question,
so
I
don't
think.
There's
any
problem
with
that.
So
I
appreciate
you
putting
this
together
and
the
next
thing
we
have
is
Matters
from
the
task
force.
If
there's
anything
from
task
force,
members.