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B
B
You're,
not
muted
counselor.
I'm
sorry
counselor
cassette
here.
C
B
All
right
that'll
make
it
fun.
Thank
you
for
being
here.
If
we
could
let
the
city
attorney
into
the
main
meeting,
please
she's
in
the
waiting
room.
E
A
Excuse
me,
madam
chair,
yes,
christine
could
let
write
dr
white
in
as
a
participant
when
he
joins.
B
Okay,
we
do
have
a
quorum
if
we
could
are
there
changes
to
the
agenda
from
staff?
B
No
changes.
Madam
chair,
okay,
are
there
changes
from
the
committee
and,
if
not,
is
there
a
motion?
50
approve?
Second,
we
have
a
motion
from
councillor
cassette,
a
second
from
councilwoman
villarreal.
If
we
could
take
roll
call
on
approval
of
the
agenda,
please
yes,.
C
D
B
Okay,
we
have
approval
of
the
agenda.
Next,
we
have
need
to
approve
the
consent
agenda.
Are
there
items?
The
committee
would
like
to
pull.
B
B
Second,
all
right:
we
have
motioned
by
councilman
villarreal,
a
second
by
counselor
lindell,
and
if
we
could
take
a
roll
call
on
approval
of
the
consent
agenda,
as
amended.
B
B
Yes,
all
right,
we
have
a
consent,
we
have
approval
of
the
consent
agenda.
We
will
now
go
to
the
regular
finance
committee
minutes
regular
finance
committee
meeting
minutes
for
june
21st.
Are
there
changes
to
those
minutes
from
staff.
B
B
B
B
Okay,
so
now
we
have
approval
of
the
consent
agenda
or
no
approval
of
the
minutes.
So
sorry,
I
will
go
to
our
next
item.
Seven
presentation.
We
have
dr
riley
white
with
us
on
the
economic
recovery
update
and
I'll.
Just
let
you
take
it
from
here.
I
think
you
have
a
powerpoint.
Is
that
correct.
H
Yes,
I
do
counselor.
Thank
you
so
much
okay.
So
thank
you
all
to
the
council
for
having
me
here
today,
I'm
incredibly
honored
to
come,
speak
with
you
and
give
you
a
little
macroeconomic
update.
Hopefully
this
won't
be
too
long,
but
we
can
cover
some
of
the
major
points
that
are
happening
right
now
and
so
I'll
kind
of
go
here.
Hopefully,
you'll
be
able
to
see
my
screen
if
this
works
well.
Okay,
all
right,
excellent,
excellent,
excellent,
okay!
So
welcome.
H
Thank
you
so
much
to
give
you
a
quick
macroeconomic
update.
The
reason
for
doing
this,
of
course,
is
that
macroeconomics
informs
a
lot
of
how
santa
fe
makes
money
earns
money
and
earns
revenue
and
and
to
give
you
a
heads
up
a
little
bit
about
me.
H
I
have
about
15
years
of
experience
in
economic
analysis,
banking,
budgeting
and
academic
research,
while
I'm
at
unm
as
an
associate
professor
of
finance,
and
here
representing
erebor
llc,
I've
got
16
peer-reviewed
publications
across
a
number
of
fields
and
we
do
all
kinds
of
modeling
and
guest
speaker
and
financial
literacy
initiatives
so
anyway,
so
right
now.
What
I
want
to
point
out
is
a
couple
big
picture
ideas
behind
what
I
call
the
growth
economy
and
right
now.
H
I
want
to
reiterate
when
we
go
through
this
presentation
that
we're
in
a
transitory
economy
right
now
we're
an
economy,
that's
been
recovering,
and
now
it's
going
to
more
of
a
steady
state
growth
model,
but
a
recovery
economy
is
a
very
interesting
thing
and
it's
very
unusual
compared
to
other
economic
issues.
H
If
we
go
back
in
time
back
earlier,
a
few
months
ago,
we
were
looking
ahead.
Knowing
this
year
would
be
as
strong
for
gdp
and
since
that
time
period,
the
consensus
has
only
gotten
higher
and
higher
right.
Now,
they've
estimated
we've
we've
achieved
about
6.4
percent
annualized
economic
growth
across
the
country
in
the
first
quarter
of
2021
they've,
now
upgraded
our
overall
year,
growth
in
gdp
and
that's
gross
domestic
product.
The
amount
of
goods
and
services
that
we
produce
as
a
country
will
actually
grow
at
a
6.6
pace.
H
That
is
the
highest
level
in
about
40
years.
To
give
you
a
sense
of
this,
this
is
not
without
some
short-term
frictions.
We've
seen
higher
building
prices,
commodity
prices,
lumber,
iron
and
copper,
which
in
turn
has
delayed
housing,
starts
supply
chain
bottlenecks,
particularly
among
silicon
chips
and
raw
materials.
The
previous
administration
imposed
a
lot
of
tariffs
across
a
number
of
industries.
This
helped
aggravate
supply
issues
that
happened
with
the
economy
when
we
were
hit
by
the
macroeconomic
shock
of
last
year.
H
What
happened
is
businesses
started,
cutting
back
on
what
they
can
produce
and
they
they
laid
off
people,
they
got
rid
of
a
business
and
what
happened
as
a
consequence
was
that
these
supply
chains
were
effectively
gutted
and
now
it
takes
a
much
longer
time
to
rebuild
them
and
so
demand
shot
up
so
quickly
and
so
in
such
an
anticipated
way.
We're
seeing
this
across
the
board.
We
have
labor
market
tightness.
H
That
means
there's
a
lot
of
demand
for
jobs,
particularly
in
the
service
sector,
and
also
there's
a
risk
of
inflation,
which
right
now
appears
to
be
a
short
term
rather
than
a
long-term
phenomenon
and
I'll
explain
what
that
means.
What
does
it
mean
for
municipalities
like
santa
fe?
Well,
if
we
have
to
blow
off
the
dust
going
back
about
40
years,
we
have
a
whole
bunch
of
data
about
what
happens.
What
happens
when
stuff
gets
more
expensive?
H
It
means
that
revenues
get
go,
get
higher
grow
as
well,
but
it
also
means,
unfortunately,
that
well
not
unfortunately,
but
it
also
means
wages
can
drag
up
and
that
can
be
a
cost,
but
we'll
explain
kind
of
what
that
means.
So,
if
we
were
looking
at
this
overall
right
now,
the
key
feature
is
is
how
much
consumer
spending
has
rebounded.
This
is
what
led
to
those
grt
revenue
numbers
that
you
saw
in
the
last
month
that
were
so
good
for
the
city
of
santa
fe.
H
Consumer
spending
is
really
really
high
and
there's
a
note
about
this
is
that
when
people
were
paid
when
we
had
about
five
trillion
dollars
of
stimulus
injected
over
three
stimulus
programs
in
about
the
last
year
and
a
half
that
had
that's
about
one
quarter
of
our
gdp
that
had
the
effect
of
boosting
both
goods
and
services,
but
goods
in
particular,
when
people
were
stuck
at
home,
they
spent
money
on
stuff,
and
so
goods,
retail
goods
and
things
started
going
up
in
value
a
little
bit
more
compared
to
services.
H
Services
are
things
like
it
could
be:
health
care
services,
legal
services,
we're
primarily
a
service
based
economy.
That's
expected
to
start
catching
up
this
year
when,
especially
as
we
go
forth
the
next
one
or
two
years,
and
then
the
other
thing
that
we
have
to
note.
One
thing
that
you
may
have
all
observed
is
that
supply
chain
shortages
across
the
economy,
a
huge
demand
earlier
last
year,
during
the
midst
of
the
pandemic,
the
rental
car
companies
across
the
country
cut
the
size
of
their
fleets.
H
Consequently,
they
had
to
buy
back
a
lot
of
cards
to
cards.
Cars
to
reach,
consumer
demand
and
car
prices
have
just
gone
through
the
roof,
and
so
inflation
is
found
in
very
specific
areas,
and
one
of
them,
of
course,
is
used
cars.
Another
factor
in
this
is
silicon
chips.
H
Right
now,
ford
can
only
has
to
make
about
one-fifth
fewer
vehicles
than
it
would
normally
make
of
silicon
chips,
and
so
this
is
sort
of
the
the
broad
picture
of
what's
of
what's
happening
around
the
economy
right
now
and
if
we
look
at
things
like
travel,
travel
is
so
important
for
the
city
of
santa
fe,
so
important
for
revenues
across
the
city,
both
in
lodgers
tax
as
well
as
grt
and
as
well
as
getting
people
through
the
door
at
all
of
our
businesses,
but
right
now
the
daily
transportation
security
administration,
checkpoint,
travel
numbers.
H
These
are
how
many
people
are
actually
flying
right.
Now
you
saw
an
earlier
version
of
this
graph
a
couple
months
ago,
when
I
showed
it
to
you,
it
has
been
tracking
right
along
the
path
that
we
thought
it
would
so
in
this
particular
capacity.
We're
actually
right
about
75
70
to
75
percent
of
total
travel
capacity,
meaning
that
roughly
we're
not
back
to
29
29
we're
getting
there
and
and
that's
the
big
picture
and
that
helps
plan
things
like
lodgers
tax
and
other
revenue
sources
for
the
city.
H
Now
we
look
at
these
things.
We
bring
it
back
to
new
mexico
and
there's
a
few
big
points
I
want
to
make.
So
in
new
mexico,
of
course.
Typically
we
recover
a
bit
slower
than
the
rest
of
the
national
economy.
We
have
fewer
large,
publicly
traded
companies.
We
have
a
very
different
labor
force
dynamic,
but
right
now
there's
some
kind
of
notes
about
this
right
now
across
new
mexico.
There's
about
our
participation
rate
like
in
the
country
as
a
whole
is
still
low.
There's
about
ten
thousand
fewer
week
workers
in
the
labor
force.
H
Will
this
change
once
you
know?
Reopenings
continue
hopefully,
and
the
trajectory
remains
high,
we
don't
know,
but
we
expect
it
will
be
gradual.
We
expect
a
bump
in
fall
as
a
lot
of
people
who
have
been
sidelined
by
the
pandemic
and
have
been
forced
to
work
from
home
either
to
take
care
of
kids
or
elder
care
are
in
a
position
now
where
they
can
go
back
to
work.
Recovery
has
been
consistent,
but
it's
a
bit
slower
than
national
averages.
H
Unemployment
in
new
mexico
was
about
eight
point:
two
percent
compared
to
six
point:
one
percent
nationally
that
since
dropped
nationally
to
about
5.8
5.9,
but
we've
seen
goods
good
sector
recoveries,
the
sectors
that
lost
the
most
people
gained,
the
most
back
employment
still
lagging
a
little
bit
in
oil
and
gas
and
government
and
financial
activities
relative
to
april.
So
one
thing
of
note
is
we
tie
it
down
to
mexico,
let's
think
about
the
zoom
boom
phenomenon.
Nationally,
we
have
the
idea
people
are
working
from
home
looking
for
flex
time.
H
H
Lease
numbers
have
stabilized,
while
retail
industrial
values
are
continuing
to
increase
in
dollars
per
square
foot
in
santa
fe,
like
many
western
cities,
we're
seeing
an
influx
of
out-of-state
buyers
and
investors
as
well,
and
we'll
talk
about
that
in
a
second
price
increases
fundamentally
remain
in
real
estate
in
new
mexico,
as
everywhere
else
remain
based
on
fundamentals.
The
rates
are
really
really
really
low
low
mortgage
rates
and
low
inventory.
There
are
very
few
inventory,
very
few
homes
for
sale
relative
to
the
people
that
are
demanding
them.
H
Consequently,
you
have
a
low
supply,
a
high
demand
that
means
high
prices,
and
that
will
continue
as
long
as
this
this
this
goes
forth,
but
we
expect
it
will
start
to
lessen
up
in
the
next
year
or
two
looking
at
regional
real
estate
prices
here
in
santa
fe.
Of
course,
this
is
taken
from
zillow
there's
a
lot
of
different
sources
to
see
this.
H
We
know
that
that
this
is
a
bit
lagged
and
it
has
some
other
issues
with
it,
but
the
santa
fe
area,
the
most
expensive
market
in
new
mexico,
even
growing
at
the
highest
rate
relative
to
other
places,
and-
and
this
is
a
large-
this
is
a
and
do
a
large
part
again
to
incredibly
low
mortgage
rates,
very
low,
historically
low
inventory
and
a
large
demand
to
live
in
santa
fe.
H
What
that
means
is
it's
bad
news
for
affordability,
good
news
for
property
tax,
good
news
for
revenues,
especially
as
you
look
toward
that
revenue
mix,
bringing
people
into
the
city
and
increasing
the
population
boosts
grt
property
tax
revenue
substantially,
but
it
comes
with.
It
comes
with
consequences
as
well.
Santa
fe
tying
that
back
into
santa
fe
economic
growth
continues.
H
So
we
have
record
consumer
spending
in
the
first
quarter.
That's
going
to
level
off
a
little
bit.
It's
still
going
to
improve
santa
fe's
economy,
where
unemployment's
still
hovering
about
a
percent.
A
full
percent
below
new
mexico
as
a
whole,
which
is
good
construction
activity,
is
very,
very
strong
and
ultimately,
we
had
that
little
bit
of
a
delay
where
a
lot
of
construction
was
delayed
earlier
in
the
year
and
across
the
country.
H
Huge
demand
for
lumber
prices,
huge
demand
for
a
lot
of
building
materials,
building
commodities
and,
in
turn,
that
made
building
more
expensive.
So
a
lot
of
builders
waited.
Consequently,
now
we're
gonna
see
more
building
activity,
as
those
prices
start
to
fall,
and
we
expect
these
tight
labor
market
conditions
to
continue,
but
they're
going
to
slowly
ease
with
continued
progress
and
vaccination
and
reopening
and
economic
adjustment
still
we're
lagging
behind
in
leisure
and
hospitality,
about
4,
000
fewer
workers
and
where
we
were
before
the
pandemic.
H
Now
the
low
supply
of
real
estate
inventory,
we
know
as
a
whole,
it's
unsustainable
to
grow
at
the
rate
that
we've
seen
for
housing
prices,
but
this
is
not
again
2008
where
you
had
a
situation
where
you
had
a
lot
of
buyers
with
very
low,
with
very
low
credit
scores
and
other
things
that
were
negative.
The
market
and
banks
particularly
engaging
in
activities
that
encouraged,
especially
with
the
explosion
of
the
securitized
lending
market,
a
lot
of
banks
were
poorly
capitalized.
H
They
didn't
understand
risk
levels
since
that
time
period.
The
banks
are
very
well
capitalized,
well
in
a
strong
position,
and
so
consequently
we
don't
expect
this
this
this
to
be
a
shock,
a
drop
off
right
now.
It
appears
that
the
real
estate
market
will
gradually
taper
off
as
inventory
and
building
reach
levels.
Compare
this
we
see
this
increase
over
a
long
period
of
time,
compare
it
globally
to
phenomenon
that
have
been
happening
across
the
world,
from
hong
kong
to
canada.
H
You've
seen
extended
periods
of
of
real
estate
growth
prices
without,
like
the
united
states,
the
correction
that
we
had
back
in
2008.,
all
right
so
can
santa
fe
construction
boom
is
continuing
the
one
that
started
back
in
2018
and
we
look
at
the
number
of
permits
that
are
being
granted
and
the
number
of
permits
that
are
being
built
upon
still
very
high
relative
to
long-term
averages.
Now
we
go
back
and,
let's
think
about
our
restaurants,
an
important
fixture
of
santa
fe
and
important
center
for
generating
revenue
when
we
think
about
seated
diners.
H
If
we
extend
this
all
the
way
through
june.
This
goes
up
until
the
end
of
june.
We're
not
yet
at
the
level
where
we
were
in
2019.
H
To
continue
to
expand
and
offer
the
same
selections,
they
did
before
long
story
short.
We
expect
by
the
end
of
this
year,
we'll
be
operating
more
or
less
where
we
were
before.
Now
we
look
at
this
big
picture
ideas
behind
the
santa
fe
economic
outlook.
The
santa
fe
economy
is
going
to
expect
it
to
continue
to
grow
and
there's
a
couple
of
news
about.
There's
a
couple
of
parts
about
this
that
are
kind
of
nuanced.
In
a
recovery
economy.
H
You're
going
to
see
these
spurts
of
development,
these
spurts
of
grt
revenue,
kind
of
shooting
up
as
people
with
a
lot
of
pent-up
demand.
They
go,
they
travel,
they
visit
santa
fe,
they
spend
money
in
the
city
and
that
boosts
revenue.
Now
can
we
expect
this
to
continue?
I
expect
it
to
continue
beyond.
I
expect
us
to
to
to
do
really
well
with
the
end
of
the
end
of
this
sorry,
the
beginning
of
throughout
the
beginning
of
fiscal
year,
2022,
but
again
we're
looking
at
those
year-on-year
prices.
H
Looking
at
those
year-on-year
revenue
forecasts,
I
expect
it
will
be
more
reasonable,
going
back
to
the
reasonable
trend
trajectory
growth
rates
that
we
had
prior
to
the
pandemic.
H
This
is
a
little
bit
volatile,
but
that
will
ease
off
high
growth
in
the
recovery
economy
is
going
to
start
easing
grt
from
online
sales,
and
lodgers
tax
will
likely
track
higher,
expect
fiscal
year,
2022
levels
to
approach,
and
hopefully
moderately
exceed
pre-pandemic
values
in
many,
if
not
all
months
now,
a
robust
property
market
powered
by
lower
interest
rates
and
a
growing
population
will
allow
kind
of
the
steady
growth
in
property
tax
revenue,
the
biggest
correlation
between
the
amount
of
this
revenue
the
city
brings
in
in
property.
H
Taxes
to
economic
factors
is
literally
just
population
growth,
it's
literally
people
living
in
the
city
and,
as
you
get
a
lot
of
churn
in
these
housing
markets
that
builds
up
the
taxable
base,
and
that
means
there's
more
taxes,
short-term
inflation.
Now
this
is
the
big
question:
short-term
inflation.
We
know
that
the
fed
has
signaled
what
the
federal
reserve
does
is.
H
They
set
one
interest
rate,
which
is
basically
overnight,
lending
to
large
banks,
but
that
has
an
effect
across
the
economy,
and
that
has
an
effect
at
at
a
bunch
of
other
rates
that
are
probably
traded
and
when,
when
rates
are
really
really
low,
it
encourages
companies
people
to
do
things
to
take
out
loans,
because
loans
are
very,
very
cheap,
build
projects,
it's
like
it
reduces
their
hurdle
rate.
It
makes
a
lot
of
economic
activity
profitable.
H
Now,
if
the,
if
the
risk
is,
of
course,
if
the
rates
are
low
for
a
long
period
of
time,
you
risk
inflation,
you
risk
inflation
that
might
drive
it
upwards
and
because
we've
seen
we're
coming
from
sort
of
the
bottom
of
the
pandemic
economy
and
things
like
energy
were
really
cheap.
A
year
ago,
now,
they're
more
expensive
that
basket
of
goods
that
tracks
inflation.
Cpi
is
gonna
track
higher.
It's
gonna
track
higher
than
the
two
percent
target
the
federal
reserve
normally
tracks.
Now
the
fed
knows
it's
temporary.
H
So
that's
why
they're
not
raising
rates
the
fed
raises
rates,
because
by
raising
interest
rates
you
help
constrict
the
money
supply.
You
help
reduce
the
amount
of
loans
that
are
happening
and
reduce
economic
activity
and
the
fed
is
concerned.
It
doesn't
want
to
put
a
cap
on
economic
growth
so
quickly,
and
so
what's
going
to
happen,
is
we
believe
so
far
that
this
inflation
will
be
short
term
as
these
supply
chain
issues
and
different
sectors
sort
out
as
they
likely
will
and
as
they
we've
sort
of
seen
in
places
like
lumber?
H
We
expect
it
will
continue
to
improve
sustained
inflation
is
usually
driven
by
a
lot
of
large
macroeconomic
factors.
One
of
them
is
wage
growth.
Wages
have
gone
up,
but
they're
not
going
up
at
a
rate
that
belies
like
a
massive
increase
in
in
long-term
inflation.
We
had
a
10
cent
growth
in
the
average
wage
in
the
united
states
in
the
last
jobs
report
on
july
2nd,
and
to
give
you
a
sense
of
that.
H
That's
not
a
level
that
is
that
is
conducive
to
like
a
really
really
high
inflation
rate
in
the
long
run,
but
it
is
something
to
watch,
and
so
all
of
this
is
happening
right
now,
and
all
of
this
is
going
on.
You
know
we're
looking
at
looking
ahead
to
a
bunch
of
other
factors
here
about
why
these
things
work.
H
So
obviously
baskets
of
goods
are
very
important,
but
overall
we
expect
the
growth
to
continue
moderately
we're
going
to
shift
from
this
period
of
high
growth
to
a
period
of
sort
of
steady,
long-term
growth
and
and
and
looking
ahead.
Both
the
market
as
a
whole,
as
well
as
economic
consensus,
is
forecasting
course
sort
of
a
very
positive
outlook
for
the
rest
of
fiscal
year
22
and
into
fiscal
year
2023,
and
that's
what
I
have
so.
I
appreciate
if
you
have
any
questions.
B
Thank
you,
dr
white.
Are
there
questions
from
the
committee.
G
All
right,
we
have
oh
just
a
quick
clip.
Thank
you
for
the
presentation,
dr
white.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
I
got
this
right.
You
were
talking
about
rental
car
companies
and
they
sold
their
fleet
during
the
pandemic
and
they're
buying
back
cars.
So,
are
you
saying
that
rental
car
industry
is
more
expensive
or
cars
purchasing
cars
is
more
expensive
or
both.
H
Oh
very
good
question
counselor
via
real.
Thank
you
so
much
so
we're
seeing
that,
because
there
is
a
lot
of
demand
for
cars
now,
so
there's
a
lot
of
demand
for
travel
that
sets
up
a
demand
for
rental
cars.
You
can't
find
rental
cars.
Car
prices
are
really
outrageous
in
a
lot
in
a
lot
of
the
country.
Even
here
in
santa
fe
and
and
that's
due
to
a
lack
of
supply
of
rental
cars,
we
don't
have,
they
don't
have
inventory
and
they
don't
have
inventory,
because
the
market
is
so.
H
We
have
people
buying
cars.
We
have
rental
car
companies,
buying
cars
back
to
substance,
to
have
their
fleets
back,
and
then
you
have
a
lack
of
new
cars
being
built,
not
a
lack
of
them.
I
should
say
but
reduced
new
cars
being
built
and
that
combined
reduces
the
supply
and
that
increases
the
price
to
levels
we've
never
seen.
We've
never
seen,
for
instance,
according
to
mannheim,
which
is
a
used
car
index
used.
H
G
Get
it
thank
you
for
that,
and
then
the
other
question
was
about
interest
rates.
You
said
interest
rates,
they
are
committing
they're
committed
to
keeping
the
rates
low,
to
stimulate
the
economy
or
what
what's
the
was
that
the
long-term
reason
for
them
or
what's
what
else
do
we
need
to
know
about
that?.
H
Oh,
that's
a
really
good
question
and
so
the
federal
reserve,
jerome
powell
has
come
out
and
said
basically
they're
going
to
keep
rates,
low,
they're,
hoping
through
fiscal
year
2023
and
that's
a
very
long
period
of
time.
You
would
normally
expect
that
when
you
got
inflation,
numbers
like
the
ones
we've
had
or
you've
read
about
or
you've
seen
the
news
when
they
get
above
two
percent.
H
The
fed
likes
to
put
a
quick
lid
on
that
in
historic
times,
but
powell
in
the
federal
reserve
has
basically
said
that,
because
this
economy
is
recovering,
this
is
a
one-time,
one-year
short-term
inflation.
They
won't
increase
rates
because
the
risk
is
if
they
increase
rates,
they
could
force
us
if
they
raise
rates
too
quickly.
That
would
force
us
into
another
recession.
H
So
they
want
to
keep
the
growth
market
happening
over
the
next
year
and
a
half
it's
a
very
positive
thing
for
the
economy,
a
very
positive
thing
for
the
markets
and
right
now
we
don't
see
any
indicators
of
long-term,
sustained
inflation,
but
we're
keeping
an
eye
on
that,
and
that
would
mean
the
fed
would
intervene
and
likely
raise
rates.
But
right
now
they're
not
projecting
to
do
that
for
about
two
more
years.
A
Madam
chair,
if
I
may
add
the
other
side
of
that
coin,
the
city
has
a
portfolio
of
roughly
300
million
and
we're
earning
less
than
5
000
a
month.
A
We're
gonna
earn
less
than
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
fy
22,
with
a
portfolio
about
a
third
bigger
when
we
earned
in
2019
5.2
million.
So
low
interest
rates
have
it's
a
two-edged
sword.
We
do
not
earn
any
income
off
our
portfolio.
G
Thank
you
for
giving
us
the
other
flip
side
of
how
it
affects
the
city.
That's
all
I
have
thank
thank
you
for
the
information.
B
Okay,
thank
you,
dr
white,
for
being
here
tonight
really
appreciate
it.
That
was
a
great
and
quick
overview,
which
is
a
good
thing.
We'll
look
forward
to
hearing
from
you
again.
I
imagine
with
that.
We
are
going
to
go
to
the
items
pulled
from
the
consent
agenda
and
it
was
item
a
which
I
will
just
read
the
caption
request
for
approval
of
a
professional
services
contract
in
the
total
amount
of
254
000
for
chart
consultant
team
artful
life
llc.
B
We
have
our
director
of
arts
and
cultural
affairs
department
here
as
well
as
our
city
clerk,
and
we
also
have
aaron
with
the
city
attorney's
office,
and
I
think
counselor
cass
that
you
pulled
this.
Am
I
correct?
So
if
you
want
to
start
us
off,
I
think
we
were.
I
don't
know
pauline.
Did
you
have
a
presentation
or
do
you
want?
Are
you
okay,
going
right
to
questions
I'm
good
to
go
straight
with
questions?
B
D
Thank
you
so
much,
and
I
actually
just
have
one
one
brief
question
I
apologize.
I
did
not
have
the
opportunity
to
to
reach
out
ahead
of
time.
I
did
want
to
hear
a
little
bit
more
about
evaluation
strategies.
I
didn't
see
a
lot
of
that
in
the
materials
that
we
were
provided,
and
you
know
during
the
whole
conversation
about
chart.
This
was
something
that
I
had
been
very
concerned
about
as
how
we
can
really
evaluate
this
work
and
and
the
use
of
qualitative
evaluation.
D
So
I
do
believe
that
janiece,
I
saw
you
pop
on
for
a
minute
and
valerie.
Thank
you
both
so
much
for
joining
us
and
if
either
of
you
are
able
to
provide
a
bit
more
information
about
how
you
will
be
able
to
really
evaluate
the
information
that
comes
out
of
this
process
and
synthesize
it
in
a
way
that
helps
inform
decisions
and
policies
and
directions
in
which
we
can
be
moving
and
aaron
already
has
her
hand.
B
Yeah,
so
part
of
the
reason
I
invited
the
city
attorney
here
tonight
is
to
help
us
understand
kind
of
where
the
boundaries
are
about
what
we
can
and
can't
probe
in
this
moment,
and
so
city
attorney
mcsherry.
If,
if
that's,
why
your
hand
is
raised
I'll,
go
to
you
yeah
councillor.
E
E
However,
I
did
just
want
to
lay
some
some
kind
of
overarching
themes,
just
that
I
think,
might
help
guide
the
conversation
over
overall,
which
is
that
if
anyone
wants
to
talk
about
the
contents
of
the
proposals-
and
I
don't
know
if
the
answer
to
your
question-
implicates
the
contents
of
the
proposals-
it
could
have
been
part
of
the
proposal
of
the
recommended
team
as
to
how
they
would
do
that
evaluation.
E
If
it
is,
then
I
do
recommend
that
the
committee
goes
into
executive
session
to
talk
about
the
contents
of
the
proposals,
and
I
can
provide
that.
It's
part
of
the
guidance
on
executive
session
guidance
that
can
provide
you
the
specific
motion.
It's
also
part
of
the
orientation
materials
from
last
january.
E
If
you
have
your
binders
with
you,
but
basically
if
it's
about
the
contract
itself
and
the
contract
terms,
that's
fine
for
the
open
session
and
if
it's
just
general
questions
about
the
rp
process
and
that
kind
of
stuff,
that's
entirely
fine
for
the
open
sessions
those
were
publicly
announced.
E
F
Okay-
oh
sorry,
I
was
just
also
going
to
know
that
sam
burnett,
who
was
the
rfp
manager
for
this
specific
rfp,
is
available
he's
joining
us
tonight.
He
might
be
able
to
assist
with
that.
I
think
pauline
and
I
both
were
we
intentionally
stayed
out
of
the
rfp
process,
but
sam
is
here
and
could
speak
to
maybe
some
of
the
questions,
if
necessary,
about
the
procurement
process.
F
D
Fine
thank
you,
so
I
don't
know
way
to
phrase
this
question.
Then
city
attorney,
let
me
know
if
this
is
correct
of.
E
Chairman
with
counselor
cassette,
basically,
are
you:
are
you
asking
how
the
proposals
were
evaluated
for
the
rfp
or
how
the
recommended
contractor
will
be
gathering
information
to
make
an
evaluation
of
the
process
to
make
recommendations
to
the
governing
body?
I.
D
Mean
I
initially
was
asking
the
latter
question,
which
sounds
like
that's
an
executive
session
and
I'm
not
even
sure
that
we
are
set
up
to
do
an
executive
session
at
this
meeting,
and
so,
if
that's
the
case,
I'm
happy
to
wait
to
discuss
that
question
at
a
time
when
executive
session
could
be
set
up.
It
is
something
that
I'm
pretty
interested
in,
but.
D
E
Chair
meroworth
counselor.
I
believe
that
that
sounds
fine.
The
la
in
terms
of
the
latter.
It
just
depends
if
those
are
contractual
terms
about
how
they'll
do
the
evaluation,
then
that's
fine.
We
can
talk
about
that
because
the
contract
is
as
publicly
as
public
information,
but
if
it's,
if
that
was,
if
the
answer
does
implicate
the
proposals-
and
I
think
maybe
sam
would
be
the
best
person
to
say
whether
or
not
that
is
a
topic
that
implicates
the
proposals
or
not,
because
I
do
not
know.
I
Absolutely
madam
chair
counselor
cassette,
I
think
I
can
talk
about
the
request
for
proposal
itself
and
the
process
we
go
through
to
evaluate
the
proposals
we're
giving
given
in
in
general
terms.
Oh
yeah,
you
can
hear
me
good,
but
I
can't,
as
miss
mcsherry
has
noted.
I
I
can't
as
to
the
best
of
my
knowledge,
cannot
get
into
the
specifics
about
each
of
the
individual
proposals
themselves.
D
I'm
I'm
good
there,
but
thank
you
for
the
offer.
We've
I've
seen
plenty
of
those.
So
you
know
how
about
how
about
this.
I
will
erin
I'll
talk
with
you
offline.
I
will
be,
I
think,
I'll
see
this
again
tomorrow,
and
so
maybe
you
and
I
can
have
a
conversation,
because
I
do
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
sticking
within
the
rules
and
I
will
have
another
opportunity
to
review
this
a
little
bit
in
a
little
bit
more
detail.
D
So
let's
go
ahead
and
do
that
and
I
will
I'll
go
ahead
and
withhold
for
now
and
I'm
happy
to
move
for
approval.
B
Okay,
we
have
a
motion.
Is
there
a
second
and
then
we'll
continue
our
conversation
all
second
for
the
purposes
of
furthering
the
conversation
councillor
lindell.
J
Thank
you
chair,
so
I
just
want
to
be
clear
about
this.
All
we're
talking
about
this
evening
is
procurement.
We're
not
talking
about
any
specifics
of
this
contract,
or
all
we're
talking
about
really
is
the
procurement
process.
Is
that
correct.
B
City
attorney
maturity.
Would
you
like
to
address
that.
E
Chairwoman,
counselor
remember
and
council
lindelt,
you
can
talk
about
the
contract.
Absolutely
you
can
talk
about,
I
mean
so.
The
contract
is
the
item
on
the
agenda.
B
Okay,
council-
linda-
I
just
want
to
let
you
all
know
that
there's
a
huge
storm
cell
over
my
house
and
if
experience
is
any
indicator.
If
I
go
poof
councillor
lindell,
I'm
gonna
turn
this
meeting
over
to
you
until
I
can
rejoin
so
go
ahead.
Okay,.
J
We
may
not
have
a
quorum
before
we
know
it,
or
it
may
get
so
loud
in
my
house
that
I
can't
continue.
J
So
in
the
packet-
and
I
would
encourage
that-
we
got
an
email
today
from
pauline
that
had
a
lot
more
information
in
it
than
what
was
in
the
packet,
and
I
think
that
this
packet
is
probably
headed
to
the
council,
and
I
would
recommend
that
all
the
information
that
was
sent
in
that
email
be
put
into
this
packet.
Because,
basically,
is
that
not
possible
not
possible?
So
am
I
allowed
to
talk
about?
What's.
B
Came
in
okay,
so
councilwoman
we
can
talk
in
executive
session
about
the
actual
proposal,
but
until
it
is
signed
until
we've
approved
it
and-
and
it's
been
signed,
it's
my
understanding
that
that
is
not
a
public
document,
but
we
can
talk
up,
as
in
my
conversation
with
the
city
attorney
this
afternoon,
we
can
talk
about
the
terms
of
the
contract,
the
terms
of
the
rfp,
but
not
the
content
of
the
proposal
in
front
of
us
or
any
of
the
other
proposals
that
were
submitted
in
the
rfp
process,
and
this
has
been
our
process
at
the
city
and
city
attorney.
J
B
Well,
the
contract
is
for
254
thousand
dollars,
so
that
is
the
fiscal
impact
to
the
city.
We're
approving
that
amount
city
attorney,
mccherry,
yeah.
E
And
chair
chairman
ramirez,
we
also
the
fbis
are
for
legislation,
and
so
this
is
a
contract.
That
is
a
result
of
a
resolution
which
did
have
an
fir,
but
the
contract
itself
does
not
have
a
separate
fire.
F
I
just
would
like
to
add
to
that
that
the
fir
for
this
resolution
was
approved
on
january
13th,
when
the
legislation
was
approved
just
for
additional
information.
J
Well,
I
think
that
all
the
questions
that
I
want
to
ask
are
going
to
have
to
be
asked
in
executive
session.
I
I
don't
really
have
any
questions
about
the
procurement.
I
mean,
that's
all
pretty
clear
and
straightforward.
We
see
it
all
the
time,
but
I
do
I
am
going
to
have
questions
on
the
contract
itself,
so
I
will
yield
the
floor
but
before
a
final
vote
on
this
from
the
council,
I
I
would
like
for
this
item
to
go
to
executive
session.
B
Thank
you,
okay,
councilwoman
vrael.
I
think
your
hand
up
was
next.
G
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
So
can
we
ask
questions
about.
G
E
G
Okay,
so
those
are
questions.
Those
are
some
of
the
things
I'd
like
to
know,
and
I'm
not
sure
would
would
director
burnett
answer
that
or
yes,
so,
maybe
just
generally
like
how
many
groups
applied,
who
made
up
the
review
team
and
how
you
know,
how
did
you,
I
guess,
vet
or
if
there
was
a
process
where
you
came
up
with
finalists,
maybe
just
the
over
kind
of
general
sense
of
how
how
you
came
to
a
decision.
I
Madam
chair
counselor,
via
real,
so
this
particular
rfp
had
several
sections
inside
several
sections
or
criteria
that
the
proposals
were
intended
to
speak
to
these
are
related
to
you
know:
past
experience
of
the
entities
providing
the
proposal,
local
knowledge
and
experience,
information
about
their
team
members
and
information
about
similar
processes,
they've
gone
through
in
the
past.
I
I
Out
of
that
entire
100
points,
the
the
way
the
evaluation
itself
is
done.
There
were
four
actual
members
evaluation
members
on
the
team.
Two
are
direct
city
employees
and
two
were
advisors
to
the
city
and
because
I'm
not
clear
on
whether
or
not
I'm
allowed
to
to
divulge
the
identity
of
those
individuals,
I'll
save
that
for
the
executive
session.
I
But
there
were
four
members
we
met
to
review
the
proposals
together,
the
commute
the
evaluation
team
members
all
read
the
rfps
up
front,
and
then
we
met
kind
of
reviewed
them
in
comparison
to
those
evaluation
criteria.
The
team
members
provided
their
scores.
My
role
was
really
the
record
keeper
and
kind
of
you
know
kind
of
steward
of
the
process.
So
I
was
not
a
voting
member
on
the
committee.
I
Those
scores
are
all
tabulated
into
a
special
tabulation
sheet.
That
tabulation
sheet
is
then
incorporated
into
an
evaluation
report
that
I
wrote
where
I
take.
You
know
comments
from
each
of
the
members
related
to
each
of
the
sections,
and
I
essentially
just
write
up
a
big
report
that
explains
how
the
committee
came
to
assign
whatever
score
it
did
for
whatever
section
of
the
rfp
we
were
working
on.
So
it's
very
much
a
very
kind
of
rote,
rigorous,
straightforward
process
that
yeah
that
I'm
trying
to
think.
I
Oh,
I
do
think
I
can
tell
you
there
were.
There
were
two
in
total.
There
were
two
proposals
that
the
committee
reviewed.
I
There
were
two
proposals
total
that
were
submitted
there
were
there
were
a
larger
number
of
proposals
submitted,
but
every
proposal
has
a
set
of
required
documents
and
some
of
those
proposals
were
not
complete
packages
which
automatically
disqualifies
them
so
we're
we're
not
allowed
to
to
include
them
in
the
process
and
once
the
the
end
date
that
you
know,
I
can't
remember
the
date
they
were
due,
but
one
minute
past.
I
The
deadline
is
a
no-go
in
the
world
of
government
procurement,
so
unfortunately,
that
individual
submitted
their
packet
at
a
at
the
last
moment.
It
was
missing
a
document
and
there
wasn't
an
opportunity
for
us
to
work
with
them
to
correct
that.
G
Okay,
so
essentially
you're
saying
there
were
two
proposals
that
were
eligible
to
be
considered,
correct,
okay
and
then
the
other
piece.
I
guess
this
would
be
more
for
an
executive
session
conversation,
the
actual
budget,
like
the
breakdown
of
how
that
funding
source
would
be
utilized
over
a
period
of
time.
I
don't
think
it's
a
year.
I
think
it
was
more
than
a
year
so
would
be.
I
Madam
chair
counselor,
via
real,
I
would
actually
defer
to
director
kamiyama
or
the
city
clerk
on
the
budget.
They're
more
involved
in
the
process
of
managing
the
contract.
G
Madam
chair
and
council
rio
real,
thank
you
for
the
question.
The
contract
was
for
the
12-month
period
only
and
during
the
resolution
discussion.
It
is
a
commitment
of
the
arts
and
culture
department
to
continue
with
the
foundation,
that's
laid
down
by
the
consultant
team
to
carry
it
throughout.
So
we
know
that
it's
the
conversation
and
will
continue
over
time
and
we're
committed
to
that
moving
forward.
But
the
budget
that
was
asked
for
in
the
request
for
proposal
was
to
cover
the
scope
of
work,
as
mandated
through
the
resolution
and
for
a
12-month
period.
G
Okay,
so
the
254
000
is
a
12-month
budget
and
then
those
details
as
to
how
it
breaks
down
and
how
it
gets
dispersed
whether
it's
the
partners
in
the
facilitation
team
or
other
facilitators.
It
would
be
part.
Is
that
something
that
I
don't
know?
I
didn't
see
it,
but
maybe
I
missed
it,
but
is
that
something
that
would
be
executive
session
or
madam
chair
council,
video,
real?
Yes,
that
would
be
part
of
the
proposal
and
we
could
discuss
it
during
exact
executive
session.
Okay,
since
we're
not
necessarily
equipped
to
do
executive
tonight.
G
B
So
it's
true,
it's
true
that
we
do
not
have
a
zoom
link
for
an
executive
session
tonight.
As
far
as
I'm
aware
now,
I
don't
know
whether
one
could
be
created
very
quickly.
B
I
have
been
informed
that
the
the
the
folks
who
are
being
considered
for
this
rfp
are
with
us
tonight
and
could
certainly
address
the
committee
introduce
themselves
and
their
backgrounds
and
that
that
would
be
appropriate
for
this
committee
to
hear
and
might
be
useful
content
as
as
we
you
know,
continue
to
we'll
be
looking
at
this
at
all
the
committees
so
quality
of
life
tomorrow,
and
if
we
can,
we
can
get
a
zoom
link,
we
can
do
executive
session
there
and
then,
of
course,
I
think
it's
on
the
public
works
public
utilities
agenda
on
monday
and
then
at
governing
body.
B
So
I
you
know
this
is
just
the
beginning
of
a
conversation
and
I
think
it's
helpful
for
us
to
understand
some
of
the
parameters
around
how
we
go
about
evaluating
this
and
in
what
settings.
So
if,
if
it
would
be
of
interest
to
the
committee,
I
know
there,
we
have
a
couple
committee
members
with
hands
up.
B
So
you
know
certainly
want
to
make
sure
that
they're
heard
and
then,
if
we
want
to
go
to
the
the
folks
who
are
being
considered
for
this
rfp,
we
can
certainly
do
that.
They
are
here.
G
Madam
chair,
I
think,
in
regards
to
like
the
what's
germaine
to
this
particular
committee.
I
would
I'd
rather
hear
from
the
members
or
the
sorry,
the
the
folks
that
will
be
or
artful
the
team,
the
consultant
team
in
our
quality
of
life
committee,
but
I
also
realized
that
there's
councillor
lindell
is
not
in
that
committee.
So
I'll
leave
it
up
to
my
colleagues.
B
Okay,
so
for
the
moment
councilwoman
via
rail
was
that
all
I'm
going
to
go
to
our
next
council
all
right.
So
I'm
just
going
to
go
to
the
counselors
who
have
hands
up
and
then,
if
it's
the
wishes
of
the
committee
to
hear
from
the
potential
consultant,
even
then
we'll
go
there.
So
councillor
cassette
your
hand
is
up
next.
D
Thank
you
very
much,
madam
chair.
I
think
my
question
was
really
having
to
do
with
scheduling
executive
sessions
and
when
the
members
of
the
organization
of
artful
life
would
be
able
to
join
us,
because
for
me,
that's
kind
of
relevant
for
executive
session,
so
valerie
and
janiece
are.
Are
you
planning
on
being
at
all
of
our
committee
meetings
as
well
as
governing
body?
At
this
point.
K
Hello,
everyone
for
some
reason
my
video
won't
turn
on,
but
you
can
hear
my
voice.
Thank
you
so
much
for
having
us
and
yes,
we
will
be
present
at
all
of
the
meetings
and
happy
to
answer
whatever
questions.
Are
there.
B
K
Hello:
everyone,
our
that
we
can,
we
want
to
be
as
helpful
as
possible.
We
are
honored
to
be
the
recommended
awardee
for
this
project.
We
feel
that
we
have
the
the
qualifications
and
the
experience
to
to
undertake
this
work
as
a
community
it.
It
is
a
collective
process.
It
is
a
community
process
that
is
long
term.
That
is
what
it
the
the
work
that
we
do
and
at
the
heart
of
this
work.
So
that's
the
most
important
thing
I
want
to
say,
but
yes,.
A
B
Thank
you
and
counselor
cassette.
If
I
can
just
interject,
I'm
being
told
that
we
could
do
executive
session
tonight,
we
do
have
the
city
clerk
with
us
and
we
can
figure
out
the
technology
for
that.
If
that
were
the
wishes
of
the
committee.
D
All
right:
well
again,
I
think,
as
councilman
vitoria
mentioned,
the
questions
I
have
are
probably
more
quality
of
life
focus
and
finance.
I
would
leave
that
up
to
counselor
lynn
dallas.
She
would
not
have
a
oh.
I
guess
public
works
as
well,
and
I
think
my
next
question
was
for
just
official
record-keeping
purposes.
Should
I
amend
my
motion
to
move
for
approval
with
scheduling
of
executive
sessions
in
the
upcoming
committees,
and
I
guess
that's
a
no
aaron
you're
good.
E
Counselor,
chair
romero,
with
counselor
cassette
executive
sessions,
don't
actually
have
to
appear
on
the
on
the
agenda.
Just
the
topic
that
you'll
be
discussing
would
need
to
be
on
the
agenda
which
this
is
already
scheduled.
So
if
a
motion
to
go
an
executive
session
is
made,
that
can
happen
on
any
topic
that
is
appropriate
for
executive
session.
E
D
All
right,
wonderful,
those
were
those
are
my
only
two
questions
and
again,
I
think
the
content
that
I'm
looking
at
is
much
more
quality
of
life
focused,
but
if,
if
counselor
lindell
would
want
to
go
into
executive
session
tonight-
and
we
can
get
that
up
easily,
I
am
I'm
open
to
that
as
well.
So
thank
you.
B
Counselor
counselor
lindell
your
hand
is
up
next.
J
Thank
you,
chair
city
attorney
mcsherry.
Can
mr
burnett
tell
us
who
was
on
the
selection
committee?
Yes,
chairwoman.
I
I
They
thank
you
ma'am,
so
we
had
adelma
nasco,
who
is
a
arts?
Commissioner,
a
city
arts,
commissioner,
commissioner,
we
had
andrew
lovato,
who
I
believe
was
a
contracted
city
historian.
I
We
had
julie,
sanchez,
the
division,
direct
youth
and
family
services
division
director,
and
then
we
had
maria
tucker,
the
library
division
director.
As
members
on
the
committee.
J
Okay,
thank
you.
I
just
felt
like
if
there
wasn't
any
reason
to
keep
that
just
amongst
us,
we
should
make
it
public,
so
you
know
I.
I
appreciate
the
graciousness
of
my
colleagues
of
saying
we
could
go
into
executive
session
tonight.
J
I
think,
in
order
to
I,
I
think
it's
reasonable
for
us
to
do
that
in
the
committee
tomorrow
evening.
I
don't
think
I'm
hoping
that
I
can
join
in
on
that
and
I'm
sure
that
I
would
be
allowed
to
go
into
the
executive
session.
J
I'm
not
sure
I
can
join,
but
I
think
that
we
will
have
another
opportunity
to
go
into
executive
session
on
this,
probably
a
governing
body.
I
would
think
so.
J
B
Thank
you
counselor
all
right.
There
are
no
other
hands
up,
but
I
would
like
to
give
miss
valerie
martinez
and
is
how
do
you
say:
janiece?
B
Yes,
janiece,
gareb,
gareb.
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
the
help.
I
would
like
to
give
them
an
opportunity
to
address
the
committee
and
the
community
honestly
introduce
yourselves
talk
about
your
background
a
little
bit
and
you
know,
we've
I've
seen
some
press
releases.
We've
certainly
seen
the
information
in
our
packet,
but
I
think
it
would
be
great
to
hear
from
you
for
the
first
time
directly.
So
if
you
don't
mind,
I
don't
know
which
one
of
you
wants
to
start,
but
I
would
give
you
the.
K
Floor
I
can
start
and
then
go
to
eugenice
I'll.
Just
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
myself.
I
was
born
and
raised
in
santa
fe.
I
went
to
salazar
elementary
school
and
de
vargas
junior
high
at
santa
fe
high
school.
My
parents,
jose
ramon
martinez,
was
a
longtime
santa
fe,
high
school
math
teacher
and
tennis
coach.
My
mother,
exelda
martinez,
was
a
middle
school
teacher
and
principal
a
teacher
at
young
junior
high
in
alameda
for
most
of
her
career.
K
We
did
projects
in
santa
fe
memory
lines,
vosses
de
muestras
hornadas,
which
was
a
new
opera
made
with
53
community
members
working
six
months
together
to
come
up
with
the
idea
for
a
performance
followed
by
the
santa
fe
bus
opera,
in
which
we
worked
with
over
a
hundred
people.
We
did
a
a
year
of
storytelling
dinners
in
people's
homes
to
collect
stories
by
santa
feans
and
then
collectively
wrote
a
libra
libretto
in
all
of
those
voices
for
a
santa
fe
city
bus.
K
I
worked
in
the
cuba
area
with
three
communities:
ojo
encino,
torreon
and
cuba.
These
are
communities
that
were
very
closely
bonded
when
the
rivers
were
running,
they
used
to
share
their
sheep
together
and
grow
their
fields
together,
and
when
the
water
dried
up,
they
became
communities
that
were
separated
and
little
globe
worked
for
that
with
those
communities
for
over
eight
months
to
produce
an
absolutely
beautiful,
outside
performance
of
films
created
by
those
three
communities
with
significant
social
cohesion.
As
a
result,
in
albuquerque
I've
worked
in
the
international
district.
K
K
I've
worked
in
the
badellis
neighborhood,
so
my
work
with
artful
life
and
little
globe
is
with
communities
who
have
a
collective
desire
for
connecting
with
them
with
one
another
and
what
we
found
in
our
work
at
artful
life
is:
if
communities
come
together
to
talk
about
divisive
topics,
it
doesn't
work.
What
works
is
are
bringing
people
together
in
all
sorts
of
shapes
and
convenings
one-on-ones,
small
and
large
gatherings,
art
activations.
K
Those
kinds
of
gatherings
create
connective
tissue
between
people.
That's
how
you
build
a
foundation
to
then
address
what
are
complicated
topics.
So
what
I've
been
saying
to
people
about
this
project
is
we
need
to
lay
the
foundation
of
community
connections,
getting
people
to
come
together,
people
who
don't
usually
share
the
same
space
and
to
build
human
connections
between
them
and
then
that
way,
they're
able
over
time
to
take
on
these
very
complex
topics
that
santa
fe
is
facing.
K
I
believe
that
this
work
can
can
be
successful
because
I've
seen
it
work,
and
that
is
the
approach
that
artful
life
takes
and
just
I
don't
want
to
go
on
too
long,
but
our
first
step
should
we
be
these
contract,
be
approved,
is
to
form
the
chart
team
that
will
be
an
open
call
to
anyone
in
santa
fe.
All
of
you-
everybody
watching
here
today
and
that's
how
we
form
our
teams
and
that
team
will
take
us
forward,
we'll
employ
other
contract
employees
along
the
way.
K
But
this
has
to
be
created
and
moved
forward
by
the
community
itself.
We
take
great
care
in
that
process.
We
train
our
teams,
but
basically
it's
going
to
be
a
group
of
people
who
are
very
diverse,
who
are
committed
to
this
process
and
the
knowledge
of
the
community
is
going
to
guide
us.
The
wisdom
of
the
community
is
going
to
help
us
come
up
with
solutions
to
these
questions
that
we
have
on
our
plate.
K
It's
only
through
that
kind
of
collective
wisdom,
but
we
need
to
build
that
and
that's
how
we've
structured
the
funding
for
this
project
most
of
the
project
funding
is
for
people,
because
this
is
a
people-centered
process
and
I'm
sorry
if
I've
gone
on
a
little
bit
too
long.
Thank
you
for
your
patience
and
I
want
to
introduce
my
co-director
janiece
gareb,
who
I'm
so
very
honored,
to
work
with
on
this
project
and
as
you'll
hear,
she
brings
a
very
s
specific
and
considerable
expertise
to
the
process.
Denise.
L
Thank
you
thank
you,
valerie
and
thank
you,
everyone,
all
the
counselors,
I
appreciate
being
here.
I
came
to
santa
fe
17
years
ago,
as
somewhat
of
a
refugee
from
southern
california.
After
having
lost
everything,
I
am
one
of
the
largest
fires
in
southern
california
and
when
every
I
had
an
opportunity
to
say
everything
I
own
fits
in
the
trunk
of
my
car.
Where
would
I
like
to
go?
L
I
chose
santa
fe
for
many
of
the
reasons
that
we
choose
santa
fe
and
I
have
been
here
ever
since
I
didn't
know
at
the
time
that
santa
fe
had
had
oh
a
reputation
of
either.
You
know
welcome
you
a
welcoming
you
in
or
you
know,
spitting
you
right
out,
and
I
feel
that
santa
fe
welcomed
me.
I
arrived
on
a
wednesday
by
friday,
I
had
a
place
to
live
over
the
weekend
at
collected
works.
I
met
someone
who
was
leaving
their
job.
L
L
I
also
was
the
general
manager
of
santa
fe
performing
arts
and
the
army
for
the
arts
theater,
and
then
I
had
an
opportunity
to
move
to
the
state
of
new
mexico
where
I
work
for
the
state
arts
agency
depart
a
division
over
the
department
of
cultural
affairs.
L
There
I
manage
about
a
million
dollars
a
year
in
funding
and,
as
you
know,
probably
most
relevant
here.
I've
worked
in
almost
every
certainly
major
community
here
in
new
mexico,
creating
arts
and
cultural
districts
using
local,
using
the
arts
to
develop
community
and
local
development.
L
Everything
from
farmington
and
the
north
to
silver
city
in
the
south
and
kind
of
everything
in
between
so
that's
kind
of
my
area
of
expertise
working
across
the
state
and
helping
communities
really
identifying
what
their
assets
are,
what
they,
what
they
can
grow
and
helping
them
to
grow
into
what
it
is
that
they
really
want.
You
know
really
want
to
be
my.
I
also
work
and
in
arts
in
the
military
programs
working
with
veterans
and
active
military
also
with
traditional
arts
working
with
some
of
the
pueblos
and
other
communities.
L
I
work
with
about
60
organizations
here
in
santa
fe
alone
and
over
200
across
the
state,
primarily
arts,
but
also
tribal
entities,
government
entities,
municipalities,
k-12
schools,
so
a
whole
variety
of
people.
Here,
I'm
really
excited
about
this.
I'm
you
know
to
and
just
to
be
named
as
recommended
awardee
is
really
exciting.
L
You
know,
santa
fe
is
my
home
and
it's
where
my
friends
are
it's
where
my
community
is,
and
I
think
that
this
approach
is
going
to
be
very,
very
strong
and
very,
very
healing
for
the
city
of
santa
fe
and
I'm
very
as
a
santa
fe
and
I'm
very
very
excited
about
both
personally
doing
the
work
and
also
being
a
santa
fe
and
and
helping
heal
this
community.
You
know
heal
the
community
as
well
and
I'm
also
very
excited
to
work
with
valerie
more
directly
as
well.
L
So
thank
you
all
for
his
time
for
this
time,
and
if
you
have
any
questions,
please
let
me
know
all
right.
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you
both
for
a
little
bit
of
your
background
and
experience
in
in
this
space.
Are
there
questions
other
questions
from
the
committee?
At
this
point,
we
do
have
a
a
motion
to
approve.
If
there's
no
more
discussion,
we
can
go
to
a
roll
call.
C
B
B
Yes,
all
right
so
that
motion
passes.
This
is
the
beginning
of
a
conversation
as
this
as
as
this
rfp,
this
contract
moves
through
the
process
through
the
council
standing
committees
and
on
to
governing
body.
We
will
arrange
for
an
executive
session
so
that
the
counselors
can
ask
the
full
range
of
questions
that
they
have
in
the
appropriate
settings,
and
I
thank
you
for
being
here
tonight
and
we'll
we'll
see
you
again
tomorrow
night
with
that
the
committee
will
move
on
to
action,
items
and
discussion
items.
We
don't
have
any
of
those.
B
B
I
see
no
matters
from
the
committee
we'll
move
on
to
matters
from
the
chair
and
since
I'm
the
fill
in
chair,
I
will
just
tell
you
that
our
next
meeting
is
monday
july
19th
and
I
will
see,
sounds
like
all
of
you
tomorrow
night.
Thank
you
and
have
a
good
night.