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B
C
Yes,
you
can
councillor
cassette
sanchez
here,
council
via
president
councillor
lindell
here,
councillor
romero,
wirth,
I'm
here
and
councillor
beta.
Here
you
have
a
quorum.
B
D
C
B
Yes,
okay,
so
the
agenda's
been
approved,
then
we
have
approval
of
the
consent
agenda.
Are
there
items
to
be
removed
from
the
consent
agenda.
E
Councilwoman
via
rael.
Thank
you,
mr
chair
item,
be
as.
B
Okay,
councilwoman
lindell.
B
F
C
B
Yes,
thank
you.
Okay.
Then
we
are
on
to
approval
of
the
minutes.
The
finance
committee
meeting
minutes
of
february
15th
2021.
Are
there
any
changes
from
staff.
C
B
Yes,
thank
you.
Okay.
Then,
we
are
on
to
item
six,
which
is
presentations,
the
first
being
a
debt
financing
options,
presentation,
geo
bond,
grt
bonds,
enterprise
bonds
and
the
presentation
will
be
made
by
bradley
fletch
bradley.
H
Mr
chair,
before
bradley
begins,
I
just
want
to
give
an
outline
of
what
the
finance
committee
will
be,
what
we
will
be
reviewing
with
the
finance
committee
over
the
month
of
march
today,
our
first
meeting
of
march
we're
going
to
be
doing
a
debt
overview
part
one
of
geo
bonds,
jrt
bonds
and
enterprise
bonds
will
be
going
into
you
know.
What
exactly
is
are
each
of
these
tools.
How
can
they
be
used?
What
is
the
timeline?
Who
approves
them
and
then
standing
for
any
questions
that
you
have
on
march
22nd?
H
We
will
be
doing
a
second
debt
overview,
a
presentation
on
different
financing
options
that
we
have
alluded
to
through
other
presentations.
Things
like
the
alphabet,
soup
right,
the
irbs,
lita
pids
tids.
Anything
of
that
nature.
So
we
have
that
to
look
forward
to
at
our
next
meeting
on
the
22nd,
so
with
that
I'll
turn
it
over
to
brad
to
do
some
introductions
on
for
our
for
the
agenda,
this
evening's
presentation
and
some
introductions
of
this
staff
that
we
have
here
with
you
as
well.
I
Okay,
great,
thank
you
brad.
Thank
you
mary
good
evening,
chairman
counselors,
so
tonight
we're
just
really
gonna
introduce
the
bond
team.
We're
gonna
go
over
grt
bonds,
some
legal
background.
What
we
have
outstanding.
I
What
are
the
you
know
our
capacity
answer,
some
of
those
questions
we're
gonna,
look
at
go
bonds,
same
thing:
what
is
the
statutory
background
capacity?
I
What
we
can
do
we'll
discuss
enterprise
bonds
and
other
bond
overview
and
then
hopefully,
we've
attached
the
debt
policy
and
it
should
be
made
available
to
you
or
if
it's
not,
if
you
haven't
already
received
it,
it
will
be
available
to
you
shortly.
I
So
first
we
have
our
bond
council
from
madrid
spurling
peter
franklin.
I
The
other
final
person
is
our
underwriter
and
we
select
them
as
needed.
Typically,
a
bank
we've
seen
the
solar
energy
and
streetlight
project
working
through,
and
in
this
case
the
placement
agent
is
d.a
davidson.
I
And
so
with
that,
we're
going
to
start
right
onto
the
bonds
gross
receipts
tax,
some
background
on
it.
The
city
plans
to
issue
a
grt
bond,
backed
in
fy
22.
typical.
We
match
the
city's
issuance
capacity
with
the
city's
ability
to
manage
projects,
design,
planning
and
implementation.
I
We
use
the
grt
to
address
the
backlog
of
repair
maintenance
of
existing
facilities,
infrastructure
and
then
provide
new
capital
for
new
investment
to
improve
sustainability
and
energy
efficiency.
One
of
the
objectives
is,
is
maintaining
a
interesting.
You
know
a
a
comfortable
level
of
debt
service.
We
have
a
chart
a
bit
longer
later
on.
That
really
shows
how
close
we
got
to
our
debt
service
capacity,
not
because
we
borrowed
too
much,
but
because
revenues
dropped
significantly
because
of
kovas
koven.
I
So
no,
who
are
the
bondholders?
You
know
you
know
they
and
what
do
they
own
and
what's
protecting
them?
What
is
a
senior
lien?
What
is
a
subordinate
link.
I
I
I
Kind
of
a
graphical
representation
giving
you
a
balance,
this
is
total
grt.
The
whole
bar
is
total
grt.
Pledged
is
blue
non-pledged,
you
know,
which
is
you
know
we
haven't
pledged
to.
The
creditors
is
in
orange.
I
This
is
the
interesting
chart
I
was
talking
about.
You
can
see
the
dip
in
this
fiscal
year.
How
close
we
got
the
difference
between
the
blue
bar
and
the
orange
line
is
what
I'm
looking
at,
but,
as
you
can
see,
the
blue
bar,
which
is
total
debt
service
for
grt
declining
through
time-
and
this
is
a
real
important
takeaway-
is
the
difference
between
the
blue
bar
and
the
orange
line.
I
I
So
when
you
look
at
here,
we've
got
roughly
say
you
know,
maybe
four
million
dollar
difference
between
pledged
revenue
or
you
know,
pledge
revenues
and
debt
service,
but
as
time
goes
on,
debt
service
is
paid
and
yet
we're
projecting.
You
know
slow,
stable
growth
of
grt
into
the
future.
With
this.
I
These
are
the
outstanding
issues
for
debt
service.
What
we've
used
it
for
in
the
past
and
their
size
and
to
what
departments
they're
given
to
senior
lean,
has
the
first
claim
on
pledged
revenues.
B
Now,
let's
stop
at
each
bond
type,
so
I'll
start
with
questions
and
then
go
to
the
committee.
The
you
had
said
in
fy
22.
We
are
looking
at
a
grt
bond
when
in
fy
22
and
how
much
are
you
proposing.
H
I
can
go
ahead
and
fill
that
one
we
are.
As
the
slides
have
said,
we
are
really
looking
at
the
progress
of
our
current
grt
bonds.
I
believe
regina
presented
to
public
works
committee
last
week
about
the
status
of
our
current
fy
20
or
our
2018
grt
bond
and
then
the
capacity,
the
staff
capacity
that
we
would
have
as
those
projects
continue
to
progress
in
a
timely
manner
and
are
coming
to
a
completion.
H
So
we
will
likely
be
doing
that
at
some
point
in
the
second
half
of
fy22
issuing
a
another
grt
bond
to
the
tune
of
20
million.
B
Okay,
great
okay,
questions
from
the
committee.
B
I
see
counselor,
garcia
and
council
rivera
are
with
us.
Did
you
have
any
questions
regarding
this
grt
bond
specifically.
B
Okay,
great,
thank
you
councillor
rivera
not
for
me.
Thank
you,
okay,
okay
brad.
Let's
go
ahead
and
move
on
to
the
next
topic.
I
Our
next
topic
is
general
obligation,
bonds,
general
obligation,
bonds
are
full
faith
and
credit
of
the
city,
and
what
does
that
mean?
Council
general
obligation,
debt
holders,
the
people
who
we
borrow
money
from
have
recourse
to
the
city's
ad
valorem
property
tax,
taxing
authority
that
they
can
tax
without
limitation
as
to
rate
or
amount
in
order
to
cover
the
debt,
that's
full
faith
and
credit,
and
so
that's
why
they're
highly
rated
desirable
by
investors,
geo
bonds
must
be
approved
by
the
voters
of
santa
fe.
I
That's
another
reason
why
they're
liked
by
investors
is
because
the
cities
the
citizens
are
committed
to
paying
for
this
service
geo
bond,
repaid
with
property
tax
and
that's
specific
to
new
mexico
statute.
I
Currently,
for
the
last
few
years
you
know
you
can
watch
you
know
the
property
values
increase.
We've
went
from
roughly
4.1
billion
in
assessed
property
value
in
the
city
to
roughly
4.5
billion
in
assessed
property
value.
That's
400
million
dollars
of
new
taxable
property,
and
so
we
also
have
a
thing
called
yield
maintenance
and
anyway,
our
mill
rate
has
dropped.
Our
debt
service
mill
rate
has
dropped
from
roughly
0.78
or
7
yeah
0.78
mills
to
0.38
mills.
I
I
I
Debt
service,
in
this
case,
what
we
were
looking
at
is-
and
this
is
thanks
to
hilltop
securities-
they
were
the
ones
that
ran
these
numbers.
For
me
is
so
if
the
city
was
to
issue
a
10
million
dollar
general
obligation
bond
in
20-year
term
25-year
term
or
30-year
term,
how
much
would
the
annual
debt
service
be,
and
we
did
that
for
both
10
15
and
20
million
dollar
general
obligation
bonds,
and
what
we
have
is
the
table
of
about
with
the
annual
debt
service
would
be
at
three
and
a
half
percent
interest.
K
B
You're
you're
on
mute,
so
we
just
heard
a
little
bit.
K
I
So
if
you
had
a
a
300
000
home,
its
taxable
value
is
100
000
and
with
a
20
year
a
10
million
dollar
20-year
maturity
that
would
be
and
22
cents
a
year
for
20
years
for
25-year
maturity,
it'd
be
13.39
and
then
for
a
30-year
maturity.
It's
12
dollars-
and
we
calculated
this
for
both
the
ten
year
or
ten
million
fifteen
million
and
twenty
million
dollar
gross
general
obligation
bond.
I
And
that
completes
general
obligation
bonds.
Mr
chairman,
open
for
questions.
B
So
if
we
say
we
do
10
million,
then
if
you
go
to
that
slide
with,
we,
then,
like
you,
said
a
property
valued
at
300
000,
they
would
be
their
tax
bill
would
increase
by
15
and
52
cents
a
year.
If
we
do
the
20-year
maturity.
B
But
we
can
choose
the
maturity,
but
we'll
end
up
paying
back
more.
That
was
the
previous
slides
that
you
had
showed
us
right.
That
is
correct,
okay
and
then,
like
I
remember
from
santa
fe
county,
and
then
we
see
it
with
the
the
public
schools.
B
They
they
try
to
have
a
geo
bond
renewal
every
two
years,
and
so
would
we
be
able
to
do
the
same
thing
and
potentially
get
10
million
every
two
years,
and
would
that
would
that
1552
stay
the
same?
If
we
did
that.
I
The
1552
would
stay
the
same
for
this
bond
and
and
again
much
like
we've
seen
with
the
mill
rate
going
down
it.
You
know
if
property
values
continue
to
go
up,
the
impact
of
this
will
will
be
going
down.
The
mill
rate
will
be
going
down,
so
the
property
value
is
going
up.
The
mill
rate's
going
down.
It
should
approximate
that
same
amount
for
the
life
of
the
bond.
You
add
a
second
bond.
You
would
be
adding
an
additional
15
dollars.
I
B
B
So
we
would
have
to
see
what
which
of
our
bonds
old
bonds
would
be
maturing
and
right
now
we
only
have
three
of
them
right:
a
2013
and
then
what
were
the
other
two,
a
2014
and
a
2019.,
okay,
okay,
other
questions
from
the
committee
regarding
geo
bonds,
mr
chair,
yes,
councilwoman,
romero
worth.
I
Mr
chairman,
council
romero
worth
I'd
like
to
get
back
to
you
on
that.
When
you
look
at
the
property
tax
certificate,
the
school
district
has
a
lot
of
of
different
increments
of
property
tax.
They
have
the
edu
or
the
computer
piece,
they
have
construction
piece.
You
know
we
have
operational
and
debt
service,
and
so
they
can
have
different
varieties
of
geo
bonds
and
and
the
way
their
revenue
streams
work.
So
I
will
have
to
get
back
to
you
on
that.
M
It's
seen
well,
I
know
they've
come
back
on
the
computer
one
twice
and
it
hasn't
been
20
years
hasn't
been
25
years,
so
I'm
curious
and
and
when
albuquerque
did
theirs
for
their
affordable
housing
trust
fund.
What
kind
of
a
time
frame
were
they
on
because
they
come
back
more
frequently.
It
seems
like
too.
I
Mr
chair
counselor
romero
worth
on
that
I
have
to
get
back
to
you
too.
It
could
be
the
same
issue
that
we've
had.
You
know
that
there's
an
expansion
in
property
value,
thus
increasing
the
capacity
because,
again,
their
property
value
is
going
up.
What
the
school
district
assesses
on
is
going
up
exactly
like
ours,
it's
the
same
property
right.
N
This
is
george.
Do
you
mind
if
I
interject?
Please
do
george
okay,
mr
chairman
and
counselor
romero
work
most
of
the
cities
and
schools
that
have
what
is
really
a
rolling
general
obligation
program
it's
modeled
specifically
and
created
accordingly
and
a
couple
of
things.
First,
each
issue
generally
will
have
a
shorter
repayment
term
than
the
20
years.
That's
been
discussed
here
and
then
based
on
kind
of
a
targeted
levy
amount.
N
The
initial
issues
will
be
front
end
loaded
and
what
they
do
is
then,
every
couple
of
years
that
it's
kind
of
a
fill
solution,
they'll
try
to
issue
now
you
can
reach
an
ultimate
capacity
after
a
series
of
issuances,
if
you're
not
careful,
but
that
it's
it's
a
structure
that
has
to
be
specifically
modeled
toward
that
rolling
type
program.
N
Yes,
counselor,
if
asked,
we
could
help
brad
and
mary
model
out
a
conceptual
rolling
type
program.
You
know,
based
on
a
specific
levy
target.
M
Because
I
think,
mr
chairman,
it
would
be
important
for
us
to
understand
if,
if
we
had
a
rolling
program,
what
people's
property
tax
increases
might
look
like
and
how
that
works,
rather
than
these
really
long.
B
M
Yeah,
I
just
I
I
will
you
know
I
I
think
again,
this
is
all
informational
so
that
we
understand
what
tools
we
have
in
our
toolbox.
M
So
hopefully,
as
the
economy
recovers-
and
we
come
out
of
the
economic
crisis,
we're
in
we
know
what
kind
of
tools
we
might
have
to
address
some
of
the
longer
standing
issues
we
have
in
this
community.
I
don't
I'm
not
sure
that
I'm
interested
in
putting
any
of
these
things
in
practice
tomorrow,
but
I
would
like
to
know
what
our
options
are
and
what
that
looks
like
for
both
the
city
and
the
taxpayers.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
on
the
question
about
these
scenarios.
So
the
estimated
property
tax
increase
say
for
the
10
million
geo
bond.
Those
amounts
say
for
like
the
property
value
of
200
000,
the
20-year
maturity,
25
maturity,
30-year
maturity
are
those
amounts
like
10,
34,
8,
30,
8.93
and
eight
dollars.
Is
that
what
individual
households
get
increased?
Is
that
their
increase
on
their
bill.
I
F
F
I
see
okay
and
then
the
question
that
council
councilwoman
rometta
worth
brought
up
about
rolling
program
for
a
geo
bond
is
that
what
albuquerque
currently
does
to
fund
their?
I
think
it's
called
the
workforce
act
or
something
like
that.
Workforce
housing
act,
or
I
can't
remember
exact
name
of
it,
but
I'm
just
curious.
If
that
was
a
rolling
program.
I
Mr
chair
counselor,
via
real
I'll,
have
to
get
back
you
with
an
answer
on
that,
but
I
will
look
into
it
and
find
out.
M
F
They
call
it
like
workforce
housing
act
or
something,
but
I
was
just
curious
if
that
rolling
model
is
what
they
had,
and
you
just
confirmed
that.
Thank
you,
the
other
question
I
had
actually
had
to
do
with
the
grt.
F
I
forgot
to
ask
you
earlier
on
page
11:
it
says
historic
use
of
grt
debt
capacity,
and
it
says
it
talks
about
the
last
bullet
point
governing
body
has
full
discretion
to
use
grt
bond
proceeds
for
any
purpose
allowed
by
law,
and
then
the
last
bullet
sub
bullet
says
the
governing
body
does
not
have
authority
to
use
proceeds
in
a
manner
inconsistent
with
the
bond
ordinance
authorizing
issuance
of
the
bonds,
although
it
could
amend
the
bond
ordinance
to
use
proceeds
for
some
other
legal
purpose
outside
of
the
authorized
bond
purpose.
A
Would
you
like
me
to
jump
in
here
on
that?
Yes,
I
would
thank
you
peter
sure,
mr
chairman
and
counselor
vyadiel,
normally
in
a
gross
receipts
tax
bond
ordinance,
we
use
very
generic
language
for
what
the
purpose
of
or
what,
what
the
use
of
the
bond
proceeds
will
be.
I
mean
it's
things
like
you
know:
designing,
acquiring
constructing
improving
public
facilities,
which,
which
is
awfully
broad.
A
So
it's
it's
a
little
bit
difficult
to
come
up
with
a
an
example
of
you
know
what
would
actually
go
outside
that
extremely
broad
way
of
describing
the
purposes,
but
when
the
legislature
de-earmarked,
the
all
the
or
most
of
the
local
option,
gross
receipts
taxes
and
said
that
they
could
be
used
for
any
governmental
purpose.
A
Theoretically,
you
could
use
bond
proceeds
for
things
that
aren't
even
capital
projects.
At
this
point
they
couldn't
be
tax
exempt
under
federal
law,
but
the
that
language
has
even
has
very
dramatically
opened
up
what
gross
receipts,
taxes
and
gross
receipts
tax
revenue
bonds
could
be
used
for
so
that
would
be
an
example.
A
I
mean
if
the
if
the
city,
for
example,
wanted
to
fund
affordable
housing
services
or
something
like
that.
That's
that's
a
governmental
purpose
and
that's
not
that
wouldn't
fit
into
the
way
we
usually
describe.
You
know
the
purpose
of
the
bonds
in
the
bond
ordinances.
A
I
I
guess
I
would
complicate
this
one
step
further
by
saying.
Once
bonds
have
been
issued
and
they've
been
issued
on
a
tax-exempt
basis,
you
wouldn't
be
able
to
change
the
purposes
of
the
bonds
in
such
a
way
that
it
would
make
the
the
interest
on
the
bonds
taxable
that
would
violate
covenants
to
bond
holders.
F
So
what
do
you?
What
would
you
think
you
gave
an
example
about
affordable
housing
initiatives?
F
A
Language,
well,
I
mean,
for
example,
santa
fe
county
has
changed
the
use
of
proceeds
of
bonds
after
the
bonds
were
already
issued
to
go
from
one
capital
purpose
to
another
because
the
bonds
were
issued.
You
know
I
just
I
I
don't
actually
recall
right
now,
but,
for
example,
bonds
issued
to
acquire
open
space.
F
A
I
I
guess
what
I
would
say
is
you
often
there
are
unforeseen
consequences
of
amending
existing
ordinances.
You
know
it's
something.
We'd
want
to
look
at
on
a
case-by-case
basis
and
especially
after
bonds
have
already
been
issued,
and
it
would
just
if
the
bonds
are
issued
tax-exempt.
It
would
really
be
important
not
to
amend
the
ordinance
in
a
way
that
could
negatively
affect
the
tax-exempt
status
of
the
bonds.
B
Okay,
going
back
to
geo
bonds,
brad
you
had
talked
about
how
the
num
the
value
of
of
homes
and
properties
or
would
affect
the
what
gets
paid
or
what's
charged
in
property
taxes.
Does
the
the
number
of
homes
have
an
effect?
Also,
because
I
mean
we've
seen
a
lot
of
homes
that
are
under
construction
right
now?
What
kind
of
effect
does
that
have
on
what
you
pay
back
or
what
we
charge
the
property
owners
to
pay
up
on
back.
I
Mr
chair,
it
would
be
you
know
you
that
4.5
billion
growing
each
year
wouldn't
represent
all
the
new
homes,
all
the
new
apartment
buildings,
all
the
new
commercial
space
would
be
included
as
long
it
was
taxable
you
know
when
they
built.
You
know,
presbyterian
hospital
being
a
tax-exempt
property.
B
B
Okay,
that
that
makes
sense
counselor
garcia
did
you
have
any
questions
on
geo
bonds.
B
Okay,
councillor.
B
Okay,
if
there
are
no
other
questions
on
geo
bonds,
let's
move
to
the
next
topic:
brad
enterprise
debt.
I
And
in
this
case,
the
water
department,
it
has
three
outstanding
issues.
The
water
department
is
triple
a
rated
by
fitch,
double
a
plus
by
standard
poor's.
I
The
wastewater
and
it's
a
standalone
credit,
the
important
thing
is
it's
a
standalone
credit.
It
can
issue
debt
on
its
own
revenues,
wastewater
and,
and
both
water
and
wastewater
were
firmed
late
last
year
by
fitch
and
as
double
a
pluses.
I
The
wastewater
has
one
specific
bond
outstanding
as
a
standalone
entity.
That's
the
digester
bond
green
bond
and
then
transit
has
a
2014
fleet
with
nmfa,
and
in
that
this
case
transit
receives
90
of
one
of
the
municipal
increments.
I
I
believe
it
might
be
increment
four
and
of
that
they
pledged
a
portion
of
that
for
this
debt.
This,
and
so
it's
outside
of
pledge
revenues,
but
transit,
pledged
this
part
of
their
municipal
grt.
For
this
loan.
I
Other
debt
outstanding-
the
city-
you
know
the
convention
center
refinance
did
spawn
in
june
2015
the
immatures
in
2035,
and
in
this
case
we
use
the
largest
tax
is
seven
percent.
Five
percent
is
lodgers
tax.
Two
percent
is
convention
center
fee.
I
I
So
other
than
that,
you
know,
enterprise,
debt
answer
any
questions,
or
just
I
have
two
more
quick
slides.
Just
to
recap.
I
M
Brad,
what
kind
of
capacity
do
we
have
on
the
enterprise
bonds?
Do
you
have
any
idea.
I
M
And
do
we
have
to
use
those
for
particular
things?
Are
they
no,
the
the
better
enterprise
bonds?
Are
they
restricted
to
the
to
the
cash
balances
that
back
them
up.
I
Well,
they're
restricted,
you
know,
their
repayment
is
based
on
the
revenues
of
the
utility
and
the
use
of
the
bond
proceeds
would
be
restricted
to
that
utilities.
Either.
Capital
or
equipment
needs.
I
I
What
do
the
financials
have
to
look
like?
What
does
the
debt
service
meaning?
We
would
like
to
see
you
know
debt
service
and
have
revenues
like
five
times.
Sir
five
times,
debt
service
is
better
than
two
times
that
service,
and
so,
if
you
want
to
be
triple
a
you
need
to
be
x,
debt
service,
but
if
you're
double
a
plus,
you
can
set
a
lower
multiple.
M
M
Okay,
brad,
if,
if
possible,
I
I'd
like
to
have
a
copy
of
this
presentation.
B
This
no
problem
right.
Thank
you,
mr
okay,
questions
from
the.
L
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
ask
brad
or
maybe
peter,
if,
if
we
did
a
bond
and
the
water
department,
I
think
is
recommending
that
we
don't
do
any
rate
increases
for
five
years
under
current
situations.
L
A
Very
quick
response,
mr
chairman
councillor
rivera
most
likely,
the
any
debt
issued
by
the
water
utility
or
the
wastewater
utility
would
have
to
be
sized
around
the
current
rates
or
around
rates
that
are.
You
know
strongly
anticipated
to
be
put
into
place
in
in
the
near
term,
but
assuming
the
debt
would
be
sized
to
current
rates.
A
The
the
only
way
that
rates
could
go
up
is
if
water
usage
or
wastewater
usage
goes
down,
or
there
are
declines
in
the
amount
of
revenue
available
to
pay
debt
service,
in
that
case,
the
city
that
the
ordinances
include
covenants,
that
the
city
will
increase
the
rates
to
the
extent
necessary
to
pay
the
debt
service.
But
if
it's
sized
properly-
and
you
know
there
are
no
unanticipated
declines
in
the
use
of
the
utility
services,
that
would
be
unlikely
to
happen.
L
Yeah,
I
said
a
presentation
at
public
works.
They
are
recommending
increases,
probably
at
five
years.
We
don't
have
to
do
that
right
now,
but
five
years
from
now,
we
may,
if
we
issue
bonds
sooner
than
that,
will
that
affect
or
if
we
touch
the
cash
balances
will
that
affect
will
that
affect
fees
that
customers
have
to
pay.
A
A
That
should
not
be
necessary
if,
if
they're
sized
with
a,
in
other
words,
if
if
the
city
decides
to
issue
a
greater
amount
of
debt,
because
it's
anticipating
increasing
the
rates
in
five
years,
that
would
I
I
think
it.
I
think
that
would
probably
be
hard
to
do.
B
Okay,
so
thank
you
for
this
presentation
brad.
It
would
be
yes
go
ahead.
Sorry,
sorry
about
that.
Counselor,
garcia,.
J
H
B
Okay,
great
thank
you
and
and
again
brad
and
mary.
If
you
can
start
putting
together
that
rolling
program
for
us,
because
I
think
there
was
a
lot
of
questions
regarding
what
other
entities
are
doing
with
that,
because
we
always
hear
or
see
where,
on
election
day
vote
for
this,
it
won't
result
in
a
property
tax
increase
and
we
seem
to
see
it
more
than
just
every
10
or
15
20
years.
B
B
O
Mr
chair
members
of
the
finance
committee,
thank
you
for
your
time
tonight.
What
you
have
in
your
package
is
a
memo.
The
data
table
that
was
shared
with
the
public
works
public
utilities
committee
last
week
and
also
a
supplemental
memo,
there's
a
request
for
additional
information,
more
specific
to
grt
in
the
utilities.
O
So,
at
the
request
of
the
chair
this
this
this
part,
this
was
included
in
the
packet.
I
think
a
brief
outline
of
the
memo
really.
What
I
think
the
focal
point
is
is
the
data
cards
that
were
provided.
O
So
these
are
utility
perspectives
on
numbers
from
the
utilities
really
as
an
informational
to
the
governing
body.
Things
like
projected
revenues
operating
costs,
any
cash
restrictions
along
with
some
cip
expenditures
and
then
any
side
notes
things
like
cost
of
other
city
departments,
franchise
fees,
so
really
just
a
shot
at
bringing
some
data
forward
to
kind
of
paint
a
picture
so
again
in
utilities.
O
Balancing
revenues
over
expenses
is
one
of
the
factors
that
really
dictates
the
the
rates
and
how
the
financial
structure
and
framework
is
is
achieved.
In
addition,
things
like
cash
balance
being
able
to
meet
those
reserves
and
having
enough
cash
balance
to
fund
cip
projects
in
addition
to
debt
service
in
that
capacity.
O
So
in
the
last
presentation
it
was
alluded
to
where
the
city
sets
a
debt
service
cap
say
like
one
and
a
half
or
two
times
the
the
capacity
and
so
really
limits
the
utility,
so
they
don't
exceed
a
debt
capacity.
O
When
you
look
at
the
rate
structure,
those
are
all
things
in
the
financial
plan
that
dictate
when,
if
and
when
a
rate
increase
will
occur,
so
any
of
those
could
trigger.
So
if
cash
balances
are
projected
to
fall
below
acceptable
levels
that
could
trigger
a
rate
increase
if
debt
capacity
is
exceeding
the
threshold
set
by
the
governing
body,
that
could
trigger
a
rate
increase
to
lower
that
debt
capacity
and,
of
course,
if,
if
revenues
fall
below
expenditures
again,
that
could
also
trigger
a
rate
increase.
O
So
balancing
all
of
these
through
result
of
the
work
that
we
do
in
our
financial
plan
five
year
financial
plan
that
we
update
annually
is
looking
at
all
of
these
factors.
There
was
some
discussion
around
bonds.
If
I
could
not,
mr
chair
just
shut
a
little
bit
of
light.
I
do
have
both
marcos,
martinez
from
the
city,
attorney's
office
and
jason
mum.
O
Our
financial
consultant
available
as
well,
but
ultimately,
when
we
have
large
projects,
bonds
are
part
of
the
are
part
of
the
equation
and
we
do
evaluate
that
for
our
projects
and
it
takes
a
look
at
a
couple
of
factors.
One
is
cash
balances
right.
Does
the
utility
have
the
cash
to
fund
the
cip
and
if
they
use
the
cash?
What
is
the
long-term
impact
of
using
the
cash
for
that
specific
project?
O
If
there's
a
benefit
of
using
the
bonds,
whether
we
think
that
there's
a
market
that
may
provide
a
better
rate
or
if
the
project
has
a
longer
life
cycle,
so
that
the
people
actually
paying
for
the
project
aren't
using
the
cash
available
now
but
is
dispersed
over
the
next
20
years
for
the
people
who
are
actually
using
the
asset,
our
typical
conversations
around
when
we
would
do
a
bond,
I
think
I
would
also
take
an
opportunity
to
paint
a
picture
of
looking
at
cash
balances
and
debt
capacity.
O
O
I
think
there's
some
people
that
still
believe
that
that's
true,
but
ultimately,
if
you
rewind
back
to,
I
believe
around
2016,
there
was
a
significant
amount
of
cash
about
95
million,
but
the
amount
of
debt
that
the
utility
had
was
significant.
It
was
more
than
what
we
carry
now,
so
a
decision
was
made
by
the
governing
body
to
reduce
cash
balances
and
pay
off
some
of
that
debt.
So,
as
we
lowered
the
cash
balances
from
the
water
division,
we
created
that
debt
capacity.
O
So
really
it's
just
a
conscientious
decision,
a
financial
decision
of
of
when
do
you.
When
do
you
want
the
cash
available
as
a
balance,
and
when
do
you
want
the
ability
to
borrow
money
and
not
be
on
either
end
of
the
spectrum,
where
you're
completely
totally
in
debt,
with
no
wiggle
room
or
that
you've
used
all
your
debt
and
you're
just
sitting
on
cash
that
you're
trying
to
push
out
through
projects?
So
I'm
going
to
stop
with
that
again.
B
Okay,
thank
you
shannon.
So
looking
at
the
memo
you
provided
to
public
works
on
february
12th
and
then
attached
to
it,
you
have
your
service
data
cards.
I
have
a
couple
of
questions.
The
first
thing
that
I
noticed
when
I
looked
at
the
different
service
data
cards
like,
for
example,
environmental
service.
You
have
an
annual
projected
revenue
of
15
million
and
an
annual
operating
cost
of
13.4
million.
B
Then
wastewater
you've
got
a
projected
revenue
of
16
million
and
operating
costs
of
14.5
million,
so
between
those
two
there's
a
difference
of
about
1.5
1.6
million.
But
when
you
go
to
water,
you
have
a
36
million
dollar
annual
projected
revenue,
but
only
a
25
million
operating
costs.
So
that's
an
11
million
dollar
a
year
differences.
B
Is
there
a
reason
why
we
go
so
close
to
the
projected
revenues
with
environmental
and
and
wastewater?
But
when
it
comes
to
water,
we
don't
and
we
have,
that
big
gap
of
11
million.
O
Yes,
mr
chair,
thank
you
very
much
for
the
question.
My
immediate
reaction
would
be
is
also,
if
you
look
at
the
cip
spending
between
the
utilities.
Water
division
right
probably
has
an
87
million
dollar
ci
5
year,
cip
plan
where
environmental
services
is
probably
more
around
the
maybe
10
to
12
million
dollar
five-year
plan,
and
so
the
cash
of
balances
needed
in
order
to
support
that
cip
is
really
the
main
drive
between
the
difference
in
revenue
and
expenditures.
B
Okay
and
then
looking
at
the
water
division
data
card,
when
you
look
at
your
cash
reserves
or
restrictions,
you
have
a
365-day
operating
reserve
and
that
of
24
million,
and
then
an
emergency
reserve
of
4
million.
What's
the
difference
between
those
two
reserves
because
to
me
they
sound
like
they're
the
same
thing,
so
why
would
you
need
both.
O
Again
goes
back
to
our
recommendation
through
our
financial
consultants,
on
setting
that
reserve
for
operating
cash
has
a
direct
effect
on
your
on
your
bond
reading
your
credit
rating
so
again
why
water
is
double
a
plus
plus,
partly
is
because
they
carry
a
365
day
operating
cash
reserve.
O
The
emergency
reserve
was
set
by
a
different
ordinance
on
a
different
threshold,
which
really
speaks
specifically
to
if
there
was
an
emergency
that
that
the
utility
would
have
this
funding
set
aside
to
address
just
emergency
with
operating
cash
is
tied
more
to
like
a
credit
rating.
B
Okay
and
then
I'd
see
the
same
thing
with
you've
got
a
capital
reserve
of
three
million,
but
then
a
capital
replacement
reserve
of
three
million.
So
what's
the
difference
between
those
two,
what
are
the
purposes
of
of
of
those
because
they
sound
the
same.
O
Yes,
mr
chairs,
so
I
think
very
close,
so
capital
reserve,
I
would
say,
is
more
a
planned,
a
planned
execution
of
like
an
asset
management
plan
of
capital
assets
coming
to
the
end
of
their
lifecycle,
something
like
a
water
main
replacement
as
it
ages
with
infrastructure,
where
a
capital
reserve
would
again
look
at
specifically
replacing
if
there
was
a
failure
at
a
capital
at
a
capital
level.
Maybe
so
maybe
it's
not
an
emergency
where
a
booster
station
is
lost,
but
definitely
maybe
you
lost
two
pumps
within
that
booster
station.
O
Your
capital
reserve
could
be
used
to
do
that
and
then
again
I
don't
want
to
discredit
my
my
team.
That's
there.
I
know
jason
mom.
I
want
him
to
be
available.
If
there's
anything,
he
would
like
to
add.
You
know
for
the
benefit
of
the
committee.
P
Shannon,
if
I
may,
this
is
jason
munn
for
the
benefit
of
the
the
committee.
I
would
say
that
when
we
do
the
updates
every
year
as
we
work
to
proactively,
manage
the
city's
rates
and
charges
for
its
enterprise
funds,
the
utilities
we
look
at
that
365
days
of
of
cash
requirement
cash
on
hand.
We
we
only
plan
to
meet
the
365-day
requirement.
We
don't
plan
to
meet
that
plus
four
million
plus
three
million
plus
three
more
million.
P
B
Yeah:
okay,
great,
thank
you.
I
don't
know
whose
hand
went
up
first,
but
councilwoman
is
it
romero?
Where
did
your
hand,
go
up?
First.
M
I
think
so.
Thank
you,
mr
chair
go
ahead,
so
you,
I
think
you
sort
of
answered
this,
but
I'm
going
to
ask
you
the
question
directly
and
so
the
prior
conversation,
I
think,
sort
of
gets
at
this.
But
how
do
you
decide
how
what
the
balance
is
between
cash
and
debt?
And
I
think
I
heard
you
know
the
365-day
reserve
operating
reserve
and
the
bond
ratings,
and
is
that
pretty
much
the
big
factors
in
in
figuring
out
that
balance.
O
Mr
chair
councilmember
worth
yeah,
so
definitely
within
the
five-year
plan.
That's
looking
at
these
these
operational
targets.
I
think
the
best
example
I
could
probably
committee
is
the
green
bond.
That
utilities
did
for
the
wastewater
treatment
plant
digesters
yep.
So
at
the
time
it
was,
there
was
discussion
of
wastewater
using
their
cash
balance
to
fund
that
project
that
they
would
use
their
cash,
and
so
then
a
couple
conversations
one
with
bradley
and
his
team
on
what
would
it
look
like?
O
O
So
we
take
a
specific
project
right,
13
or
15
million
project,
and
we
ask
the
question
right:
should:
should
we
fund
it
with
cash
or
should
we
or
should
we
use
debt
service
to
take
this
forward
and
what
are
the
impacts
of
each
one
of
the
main
reasons
as
well
is
because
whether
we're
using
cash
or
a
bond
either
way
we're
before
the
governing
body,
with
the
recommendation
of
how
we
move
forward
and
is
our
expectation
that
the
governing
body
is
going
to
ask
at
the
time?
O
O
What
are
people
looking
at
and
jason
mum
and
his
team
about
the
I'd,
say
the
mid
to
long-term
effects
of
the
utility
of
whether
they
use
cash,
or
they
borrow
the
money
to
do
it
so,
hopefully
that
that
shows
a
little
bit
of
light
or
answers
to
your
question
of
of
our
approach.
For
that.
M
Yeah,
I
guess
I'd
just
like
to
understand
the
modeling
and
what
factors
you
know
specifically
make
the
scale
tip
one
way
or
the
other,
but
maybe
that's
a
expertise,
I'll
need
in
another
lifetime.
P
But
wait,
mr
k.
This
is
jason
again,
so
we
do
a
presentation
for
finance
committee
once
a
year
on
the
updates
to
the
financial
plans,
and
we
usually
talk
about
what
what's
there
in
terms
of
financial
capacity
and
debt
and
how
we're
doing
on
our
financial
metrics.
But
I
can
tell
you
that
with
the
example
that
shannon
just
gave
it's
pretty
typical
of
what
we
do
is
we're
constantly
trying
to
find
the
right
financing
mix
for
the
capital
projects.
P
P
In
certain
cases,
the
financial
financial
advisor
may
come
back
to
us
and
say
that
it's
opportune
for
the
utilities
to
actually
issue
some
debt
within
its
already
existing
capacity,
which,
in
the
case
of
those
green
bonds,
also
resulted
in
no
impact
on
the
rates,
and
it
also
resulted
in
the
utility
being
able
to
take
advantage
of
some
extremely
favorable
interest
rates.
P
And
so
we
were
able
to
do
that
as
well,
so
we
often
have
more
than
one
choice
about
how
to
go
about
financing
the
capital
improvements
and
for
the
most
part,
especially
during
the
last
five
years
or
so.
Those
choices
have
all
been
optimal.
They've
resulted
in
very
little
or
no
increase
to
the
rates.
F
Villarreal.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Thank
you
staff
to
put
for
putting
this
the
data
cards
together.
It
was
helpful
to
break
it
down
in
the
different
categories.
O
Yes,
mr
chair,
that's
review.
Cost
of
the
city
to
from
other
city
departments
is
a
calculated
cost.
Ultimately,
what
is
it
cost
of
the
city
departments
and
their
budgets,
because
we
exist
right?
How
many
more
purchase,
orders
or
requisitions
does
finance
have
to
do?
How
many
more
times
does
brad
have
to
run
a
financial
model
because
of
utilities?
O
So
again,
it
calculates
the
cost
of
utilities
being
attached
to
the
city
and
we've,
and
so
we
pay
that
portion
even
to
the
right
to
the
city
manager's
office,
for
I
would
say,
for
the
amount
of
time
that
I
take
of
her
in
meetings
and
dealing
with
utility
issues.
F
And
that
also
includes
the
attorney's
office.
That
was
always
the
example.
They
gave
us
the
amount
of
time
utilized.
F
I
I
Oh
all,
the
personnel
actions
that
they're
processed
every
hire-
that's
processed
every
benefit.
You
know
claim
that's
taken
care
of
just
think
of
all
the
services
that
the
hr
department
provides
to
the
rest
of
the
city
and
they're
hiring
maintaining
you
know,
city
employees,
you
know,
and
those
costs
are
allocated
about
all
the
departments,
but
especially
the
enterprise
funds.
I
It
depends
on
the
subject.
You
know
if
it's
on
vehicles
and
and
repairs
it's
based
on
the
number
of
vehicles
the
department
has,
if
it's
hr
is
based
on
the
number
of
employees,
if
it's
I.t,
it's
based
on
the
number
of
computers,
cell
phones
and
laptops-
or
you
know
things
like
that,
so
it's
there's.
No
one
specific
allocation
for
the
city.
F
It
that
sounds
complicated.
Thank
you
thanks
for
that
detail,
so
I
had
questions
about
the
operating
reserve,
but
they
were
answered.
Let's
see
so
all
of
the
different
divisions
talk
about
projected
expenditures
for
cip
for
five
years
and
they
give
details
except
for
the
water
division.
It
just
says:
50
million
was
there
a
somewhere?
Did
you
all
break
that
down
further
for
public
works,
or
is
there
a
way
to
get
that
from
you.
O
Mr
chair
conservation,
we
can't
provide
that
definitely
out
of
the
three
divisions.
The
water
division
is
the
most
extensive
capital
improvement.
As
you
can
see.
In
the
note
for
the
past
couple
of
years,
we
have
been
working
to
defer
an
increase
on
the
water
division.
I've
talked
in
the
past
several
meetings
about
some
strategies
that
we're
looking
to
implement
that
we're
working
to
do.
O
One
of
them
had
to
do
with
averaging
out
the
cip
again
there's
about
87
million
dollars
with
the
projects
identified
and
the
challenge
is
in
five
years.
Am
I
really
going
to
be
able
to
complete
87
million
dollars
with
the
projects?
O
O
If
I
I'm
using
the
10
million
dollar
annually,
which
comes
up
to
the
50,
to
kind
of
to
kind
of
hold
the
rates
where
they
are
and
not
and
not
trigger
rate
increase
through
the
through
the
financial
plan,
but
we
do
maintain
the
full
cip
and
I
can
share
that.
F
Yeah,
that
would
just
be
helpful
just
to
know
what
that
amount,
what
projects
go
towards
that
amount
or
that
cip
plan.
The
other
question
I
had
was
about
the
2016
for
four
percent
franchise
fee.
I
remember
that
clearly
during
our
budget
deficit,
then-
and
in
your
notes,
it
says
fees
supposed
to
be
as
assessed
20
18
through
2022
when
you
say
fee
is
supposed
to
be
assessed.
Are
you
saying
it
hasn't
been
assessed.
O
Okay,
let
me
defer
also
to
marcos.
I
think
we
had
this
conversation,
I'm
going
to
say
now.
The
note
is
is
that
I
do
assess
that
fee
every
year.
I
know
marco
shared
the
language
of
the
ordinance
with
me,
but
I
would
not
claim
to
be
the
expert
on
that
and
definitely
don't
want
to
put
them
on
the
spot,
but
I
know
that
we
had
a
conversation
on
that
specific
ordinance.
If
marcos
is
anything,
you
want
to
add.
Q
Thank
you.
So
I
that
that
is
the
current
practice
and
in
fact,
these,
the
ordinance
that
authorizes
the
transfer
from
the
enterprise
funds
to
the
general
fund
allows
up
to
a
12
of
a
three
year
average
of
actual
revenues.
So
I
I'm
my
suspicion
is
that
the
number
reflected
there
that
says
four
percent
franchise
fee
fee
supposed
to
be
assessed
at
2000
from
2018
through
2022
reflects
the
actual
amount
of
the
imposition
of
the
franchise
via
four
percent.
Rather
than
up
to
the
12
allowed
by
the
ordinance.
F
Okay,
just
all
right
check
in
with
that,
and
then
the
other
thing
I
had
mentioned
when
I
was
at
public
works.
I
was
just
curious.
It's
it's
hard
for
me
to
like
wrap
my
head
around
amounts
that
we
say:
0.14
million
1.43
million.
What
is
that
in
like
hundred
hundred
thousand
dollars?
What
is,
and
if
you
don't
have
to
tell
me
enough-
you
don't
know,
but
I'm
just
curious,
like
the
1.143
0.1
million
point
four,
I'm
just
curious
if
you
could
break
that
down.
F
If
we
see
this
and
then
I
don't
know
if
this
is
going
to
the
governing
body-
or
this
is
just
a
presentation,
but
it
would
help
me
know
what
those
numbers
are,
because
that
doesn't
mean
anything
to
me:
0.143
million.
O
O
Because
I
think
it's
just
perspective,
getting
the
width
of
the
table.
Columns
right
to
fit
typically
would
be
I'd,
usually
drop
zeros
to
make
it
to
make
the
column
width
fit.
But
but
it's
difficult
to
take
into
consideration
and
I
can
work
on
that.
There's
other
there's
other
strategies.
F
B
Okay,
any
other
questions
from
the
committee
or
the
counselors.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
I'm
not
sure
which
staff
is
on
with
us
for
this.
F
J
Mr
chair
we've
got
kyle
with
us
and
then
if
we
can
have
a
participant
promoted
to
a
panelist,
we
do
have
counselor
david
israelits
from
los
alamos
who
is
a
member
of
the
regional
coalition
of
vinyl
communities
on
with
us
to
help
present.
E
F
Kyle
helped
with
this
process,
and
I
also
feel
bad
for
him
too,
because
it's
really
not
in
his
wheelhouse
to
have
to
deal
with
this
and
with
all
the
understandings
of
this
coalition
and
our
in
our
membership
etc.
I
guess
I
was
just
trying
to
understand.
We
we
heard
this
in
a
very
it
was
not
complete
when
we
heard
it
in
july
at
the
quality
of
life
meeting
last
year,
and
so
I'm
just
was
trying
to
figure
out
what
the
delay
was
and
getting
this
getting.
R
Mr
chair
counselor,
I
I
do
apologize.
I
take
full
responsibility
of
that.
Taking
so
long
as
you're
aware,
we've
been
quite
busy
in
emergency
management
this
year,
but
we
were.
R
We
did
take
some
time
to
go
back
and
forth
to
better
understand
the
jpa,
to
see
the
history
of
it,
as
there
has
been
some
staff
changes
on
the
coalition
on
the
city's
part,
and
that
is
why
we've
invited
our
guest
speaker
as
well
to
be
able
to
help
answer
any
of
the
questions
at
the
time
when
we
brought
it
to
quality
of
life.
R
We
did
not
have
all
the
documentations
needed
for
the
membership
dues
and
to
properly
display
the
cost
that
it
is
associated
with
being
a
member
which
is
the
ten
thousand
dollars
per
year,
so
that
and
any
of
the
questions
posed
in
quality
of
life
have
been
addressed
in
the
memo
that
was
included
in
this
packet.
R
But
we
did
want
to
make
sure
that
we
had
all
the
information
and
the
guest
speaker
tonight
to
be
able
to
answer
any
of
the
questions
moving
forward
as
well.
I
know
marcos
martinez
was
on
for
the
last
and
I
think
that
he
was
on
or
if
he
is
able
to
stay
on
for
this
item
as
well.
He's
been
involved
in
some
of
the
conversations
as
well.
F
Okay,
thank
you,
and
so
the
jpa
updated
one
updated
version.
They
finalized
that
within
the
coalition
and
their
board
last
year.
So
so
we're
getting
it
this
year,
but
are
you?
Are
you
saying
all
the
existing
members
have
already
completed
the
jpa
and
they
already
it
went
through
an
approval
process
through
their
own
individual
municipalities
or
tribal
communities,
or
I
think
counties.
J
S
Yes,
thank
you,
mr
chair
councillor.
Villarreal
we
have
the
most
recent
member
who
has
communicated
to
us
that
they've
approved
the
revised
gpa
is
the
pueblo
of
okay.
S
So
with
the
city
of
santa
fe
is
left
to
approve,
and
then
the
jemez
pueblo
are
the
only
of
the
only
two
remaining
that
have
not
communicated
approval
to
us.
F
And
so
is
there
an
opportunity
to,
from
our
point
of
view,
revise
the
jpa
for
each
unique
jurisdiction?
Can
they
make
amendments
or
chain
make
any
yeah
amendments
to
the
gpa.
S
So,
mr
chair
council,
via
real,
I
guess
that
would
be
a
question
for
our
our
legal
counsel.
This
has
come
up
before
with
okay.
Wingo
pueblo
wanted
to
make
some
some
changes
that
I
believe
are
scrivener
changes
or
something
like
that
that
are
minor,
but
should
my
understanding-
and
I
guess
it
would
be
that
if
we
need
to
make
substantial
changes,
then
it
would
have
to
go
back
to
all
the
member
for
their
for
their
approval.
F
So
counselor
irela
is
relevant.
Sorry,
I
don't
want
to
mess
up
your
last
name
thanks
for
joining
us,
so
any
changes
that
jurisdictions
make
it
would
have
to
go
through
the
rest
of
the
membership
for
approval.
So
when
you're
saying
that
one
of
the
pueblos
was
considering
an
amendment,
does
that
go
back
to
the
rest
of
the.
S
No
councillor
rio
because
those
those
changes
were
were
minor,
word
changes
that
did
not
change
the
responsibilities
and
obligations
and
structure
of
the
of
the
organization.
Then
our
understanding
was
that
from
ms
long,
our
legal
counsel
is
that
that
did
not
have
to
go
back
to
to
approval
by
everybody
else.
But
if
there
are
substantive
changes,
then
yes,
that
that
would
have
to
go
back.
That's
I'm
just
relaying
that
that
was
the
conversation
that
we
had
at
at
the
time.
So
that
is
my
understanding.
F
Okay,
thank
you
for
that,
and
so
did
you
all
find
a
new
fiscal
agent.
I
know
that
there's
been
some
changes
somewhat
of
challenges
in
the
past
few
years
and
then
there
was
a
new
fiscal
agent
selected.
Did
you
all.
S
S
S
S
No,
unfortunately,
we
don't.
We
had
a
request
for
proposals
for
executive
director
of
services,
and
we
did
not.
We
did
not
get
the
response
that
we
were
expecting.
S
One
of
the
one
of
the
issues
is
that
we
have
lapsed
our
application
for
a
grant
that
would
help
support
the
executive
director
so
right
now,
our
current
membership
contributions
only
allow
us
to
have
a
half-time
roughly
half-time,
executive
director
and
personally,
I
think
that
that
was
one
of
the
reasons
why
we
did
not
get
a
satisfactory
response,
but
we're
hoping
that
once
we
are
set
to
reapply
for
that
grant
and
we
can
make
a
commitment
for
that
funding
source
that
that
will
be
able
to
to
get
more
a
better
response.
F
S
It
has
yes,
it's
been
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
per
year,.
F
Okay,
I
think
what's
troubled
me
through
since
I've
been
on
council-
is
that
we
remain
as
a
member
of
this
coalition.
Yet
we
never
really.
We
never
have
received
any
updates
about
accomplishments,
even
as
much
as
like
a
budget
saying.
This
is
how
much
we
actually
are
providing
to
do
this
coalition
to
have
a
coalition
and
what
percentage
actually
comes
from
the
members.
F
F
Or
even
economic
development,
so
it
leaves
me
to
think
well
what
are
we
doing?
Why
is
it
important
that
we
are
part
of
this
coalition
and
the
jpa
lists?
Things
like,
I
feel,
like
they're,
more
aspirational,
but
when
it
comes
down
to
like
what
happens
every
every
single
year
or
in
a
period
of
time
that
we've
been
part
of
this,
what
has
been
the
benefit
to
the
coalition
as
it
relates
to
its
relationship
with
doe
and
also
the
lab
at
lanl,
and
also
like
how
does
it
benefit
the
city
of
santa
fe
and
its
residents?
F
F
It
just
never
has
been
clear
to
me
about
the
benefits
and
how
it's
actually
upholding
the
things
and
the
values
that
we
care
about
for
the
city
of
santa
fe
and
you've,
probably
seen
or
maybe
read
some
of
the
resolutions
that
we've
upheld
about
reduction
of
plutonium,
pit
production
and
all
these
other
factors
about
environmental
cleanup
and
those
values
that
we
care
about.
I
just
never
see
it
in
a
written
way
or
explanation
about
what's
the
benefit,
and
I
don't
know,
if
really
you
have
time
to
to
break
that
down
for
us.
F
So
that's
where
I
struggle
and
and
I've
struggled
since
I've
sat
on
this
council
and
then
I
hear
from
community
members
that
also
have
you
know
issues
about.
How
could
we
better
serve
our
communities,
the
people
that
are
affected
by
the
lab,
the
people
that
work
for
the
lab
and
just
think
about
like
how
to
better
serve
them
versus
having
elected
officials,
sit
on
this
board
and
then
what
do
we
do?
And
then,
unfortunately,
all
the
stuff
that
we
have
heard
has
been
negative.
F
That
have
come
in
the
paper
about
how
our
funding
has
been
utilized,
and
it's
not
been
a
good
scenario
for
me,
and
so
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out.
I
don't
think
we
have
time
to
really
give
a
whole
breakdown
tonight
about
how
this
has
this
is
serving
the
public
and
it's
serving
the
people
of
santa
fe
and
what
are
the
benefits,
and
so
I
don't
think
we
got
there
last
year
and
then
the
jpa
never
came
back
to
us
and
I'm
not
blaming
staff.
F
I
feel
like
we
never
really
had
a
point,
a
a
key
point,
a
key
staff
person
to
to
direct
this
through,
so
that
that
was
also
a
challenge.
But
I
also
have
seen
and
heard
that
rclc
has
had
very
inconsistent
leadership
and
for
a
while
there,
you
all
didn't,
have
quorums
for
meetings.
F
I
know
it
got
back
on
track,
maybe
in
january,
but
all
of
these
things
combined
just
make
me
very
wary
about
our
role
in
relationship
and,
although
some
people
may
say,
oh
ten
thousand
dollars-
or
twenty
thousand
in
this
case
that
we're
putting
into
for
a
membership
is
not
that
much
money.
Well,
it
is
because
it's
taxpayer
money
and
also
we're
not
really
showing
the
public.
What
is
the
the
value
of
being
part
of
this
coalition?
So
I'm
going
to
stop
there.
F
I
have
other
questions,
but
I
think
it
would
help
for
the
next
iteration
when
this
goes
to.
I
think
council's
the
next
stop
which,
by
the
way,
I'm
curious,
why
it
didn't
go
back
to
quality
of
life
because
we
never
actually
voted
on
it,
and
so
it
didn't
get
back
to
us
and
that
committee.
So
maybe
someone
can
answer
that
question
for
me.
R
Chair
counselor,
I
apologize.
This
occurrence
has
come
through
a
couple
of
times
for
for
me
through
other
meetings
that
have
not
been
public
meetings,
so
I
was
unaware
that
it
needed
to
go
back
to
quality
of
life,
and
we
can
certainly
get
that
back
on
the
the
calendar
for
that
and
then
push
back
the
governing
body
meeting
to
ensure
that
it
makes
it
through
the
the
councils.
Would
you
prefer
a
a
presentation
or
a
written
document
expressing
the
the
benefits
of
the
coalition's
membership
and
santa
fe's
membership
yields.
F
I
think
a
written
presentation
would
be
warranted
sorry
written
report,
but
then
a
presentation
could
be
helpful
and
I
would
leave
it
up
to
the
chair
of
quality
of
life
to
see
if
that
makes
sense
to
go
back.
It's
just
that.
I
was
trying
to
figure
out
we're
gonna,
see
it
again
at
council
and
between
that
time
period.
S
B
Councilwoman
vrayal,
would
you
want,
do
you
want
to
have
your
questions
answered,
or
what
do
you
want
to
do?
Well,.
F
I'm
conflicted
because
we're
always
trying
to
figure
out
what
are
the
best
conversations
to
have
in
each
of
these
committees,
and
my
questions
are
not
necessarily
of
the
finance
of
a
financial
nature
and
most
of
them
are
of
quality
of
life
issues.
So
then
I
feel
like
that
would
have
been
more
appropriate,
maybe
for
quality
of
life
to
have
that
kind
of
conversation.
So
I
I
don't
know
I
I
would
I
did
want
to
hear
from
my
colleagues.
I
don't
I
don't
know,
mr
mr
chair,
what
are
you
thinking.
B
Let's
hear
from
councilwoman
cassette
sanchez:
let's
see
what
her
questions
are:
counselor
woman
lindell
has
questions
and
then
we
can
decide.
If
maybe
we
want
to
recommend
it
go
back
to
quality
of
life
or
or
if
we
want
to
continue
with
the
discussion.
R
G
I
don't
really
need
to
draw
this
out
a
lot.
The
only
question
that
I
really
have
and
the
information
can
be
gotten
to
us.
What
I
would
like
to
see
is
maybe
the
last
two
years
of
finances
from
this
organization
how
the
money
spent.
What
are
we
doing
with
it?
G
I
know
we're
not
talking
about
a
huge
amount
of
money,
but
if
I
can
see
the
finances
I'll
know
what
this
group
spends
their
time
doing
and
and
what
what
is
accomplished
with
it
so
kyla,
I
guess
it's
counselor
garcia,
that
is
the
member
our
representative,
perhaps
if
you
could
get
those
and
have
those
at
for
us
prior
to
the
I
don't
know
if
this
is
going
to
be
sent
back
to
a
committee
or
not,
but
if
it
goes
forward
to
governing
body,
if
we
could
have
those
in
our
governing
body
packet,
that
would
be
great.
T
Honestly,
my
my
questions
and
comments
are
on
the
same
line
of
just
understanding
the
value
of
the
money.
The
value
of
the
time
our
counselors
times
are,
you
know,
is
precious
and
understanding
how
being
a
member
of
this
coalition
benefits
our
community.
T
You
know
looking
at
all
the
different
areas
that
are
outlined
in
the
jpa.
Looking
at
the
environment,
looking
at
economic
development,
that's
you
know
frequently.
The
discussion
around
lannell
is
the
economic
impact
to
the
area,
and
so
how
we
might
be
able
to
understand
that
impact
to
our
community
to
the
city
of
santa
fe.
That
would
be
very
helpful.
T
So
again,
you
know
this
is
an
interest
that
I
think
many
of
us
have.
Whether
this
is
the
correct
place
for
that
discussion.
T
We
are
not
voting
necessarily
on
paying
the
membership
fee
as
it
has
already
been
paid,
but
it
it
is
the
question
of
was
what
is
our
investment
getting
us,
both
financial
and
the
time
investment
of
currently
councilor
garcia?
So
thank
you.
B
Okay,
well,
our
we
do
have
authority
to
approve
the
the
request
it
is
scheduled
to
go
to
the
governing
body
on
the
10th.
We
could
recommend
it
goes
back
to
quality
of
life
before
the
10th
or
we
let
it
go
forward
to
the
governing
body
without
a
recommendation
from
finance.
B
What
would
the
committee
like
to
do,
mr
chair
councilman
romero
worth.
M
Since
we
have
the
councillor
from
los
alamos
here
with
us
and
he's
taken
the
time
to
be
here,
I
I
would
like
to
hear
briefly
his
responses
to
some
of
the
questions
and,
I
think,
being
a
fellow
counselor
he
he
knows
how
to
do
that
in
a
way
that
will
fit
the
time
we
have
here
tonight.
So
I
think
that
might
be
instructive
for
us.
S
S
We
could
have
spent
our
time
on
over
the
last
year,
or
so
some
of
them
were
to
look
over
our
finances
to
get
the
restated
jpa
presented
to
different
governmental
entities,
getting
our
frankly
getting
our
house
in
in
order,
but
I
can
point,
but
I
can
point
to
the
accomplishments
that
were
done
in
prior
years
and
I
think
that's
a
good
indication
where,
where
we
might
go,
what
where
I
look
forward
to
being
in
the
future,
so
I
guess
the
analogy
I
would
make
is-
and
I
appreciate
council
remember
worth-
is
here
los
alamos
and
city
of
santa
fe.
S
Both
belong
to
the
municipal
league,
new
mexico,
municipal
league,
and
what
we
look
for
are
areas
in
taxation,
law
enforcement
infrastructure,
whatever
things
that
might
be
common
to
all
our
cities
and
towns
in
new
mexico
and
present
those
to
the
legislature
and
through
the
national
league
of
cities,
federal
federal
things
that
are
important
important
to
us,
we
could
do
it
individually.
Los
alamos
county
has
their
own.
S
S
The
former
executive
director,
mr
andre
romero,
was
actually
very
energetic
and
effective
in
making
sure
that
all
the
bidders
understood
the
importance
of
having
a
community
involvement,
and
I
think
that
was
very
successful
in
in
the
successful
bidder,
including
that
commitment.
So
that's
just
one
example
I
can
I
can
point
to
and
where
we
could
have
all
kind
of
pulled
individually,
but
I
think
it
was
more
more
impactful
and
also
some
of
the
smaller
communities.
S
S
You
know
all
hints
on
deck
on
on
some
of
these
critical
issues,
whether
it's
funding
for
federal
funding
for
environmental
cleanup
or
a
commitment
to
workforce
development
that
goes
from
our
community
colleges
down
to
having
k-12
that
that,
from
that
encourages
our
youth
to
get
into
fields
that
would
be
relevant
to
the
laboratory.
So
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
we
can
work
on
together
and
we
have
historically
worked
on
together
and
I
I
apologize
that
that
our
past
executive
director
did
not
go
around
to
each
of
the
communities.
S
But
I
guess
in
his
defense
there
were
a
lot
of
things
that
were
kind
of
high.
The
highest
priority
was
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
satisfied
the
requirements
of
the
state
auditor's
office
and
I
don't
want
to
re
revisit
the
issue.
The
the
past,
but
but
that
was
kind
of
our
charge
to
to
him,
was
get
all
these
things
under,
make
sure
that
we
have
clean
audits
and
financials
and
council
lindelt
will
make
sure
to
get
that
information
to
you.
S
So
that's
that's
been
the
theme
and
purpose
of
the
of
the
regional
coalition
line
of
communities
and
I
think
historically
it
has.
It
has
been
a
powerful,
effective
voice.
So
I
hope
that
briefly
answers
some
of
your
questions.
B
Thank
you,
counselor
councilwoman
romero
worth.
Did
you
have
anything
else.
M
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
you
know
I.
I
know
that
that
this
group
has
had
some
struggles
in
the
last
few
years
and
certainly
the
pandemic
hasn't
helped
in
terms
of
being
able
to,
as
the
counselor
says,
get
their
house
in
order.
But
I
do
think
that
santa
fe
santa
fe's
proximity
to
los
alamos
the
fact
that
los
alamos
has
just
opened
an
office
here
in
in
the
city
and
the
really
important
nature
of
a
variety
of
issues
that
present
themselves
with
that
with
that
proximity
to
santa
fe.
M
M
I
think
it
is
an
important
place
for
us
to
have
a
conversation
about
the
many
issues
that
present
themselves,
and
so
you
know
if,
if
the
committee
thinks
it
should
go
back
to
quality
of
life,
fine,
I'm
not
exactly
sure
what
we're
going
to
do
there,
but
you
know
happy
to
to
have
it
on
the
agenda.
M
If
that's
what
my
colleagues
want
to
do,
but
I
also
think
that
you
know
it
might
be
better
if,
if
we
just
move
this
onto
governing
body
and
let's
approve
it
and
let's
let
the
coalition
go
back
and
and
get
to
work
on
performing
at
a
higher
level,
and
especially
since
we
do
seem
to
be
kind
of
the
the
last
couple
entities
to
to
keep
them
from
from
moving
on
to
some
of
the
real
challenges
that
they
have.
So
that's
all
I
have
mr
chair.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair
yeah.
I
mean,
I
think,
that
they're
it's
not
about
not
necessarily
being
at
the
table.
It's
just
trying
to
understand
over
the
years
like
what.
How
has
it
benefited
our
city
and
is
it
meeting
the
values
that
we
have
that
we
actually
express
in
our
resolutions-
and
I
am
still
on
the
fence
about
that?
F
I'm
still
not
convinced
about
that,
and
the
other
thing
is
I'm
very
disappointed
from
a
financial
standpoint
is
that
we
hadn't
approved
this,
and
it
was
still
in
process
and
staff
went
ahead
and
paid
for
our
membership
dues
and
to
me
that
doesn't
make
sense
if
we
want
to
make
sure
that
this
is
the
right
path.
We
want
to
take
that.
We
still
want
to
be
a
member
that
this.
You
know
that
we
want
to
approve
the
jpa,
that
we
don't
have
any
changes
and
then
to
make
to
go
ahead
and
and
pay
for
that.
F
It
just
seems
to
counter
what
we're
supposed
to
do
as
a
governing
body
in
those
decision
making.
So
it's
kind
of
after
the
fact
and
that's
disappointing
to
me.
F
I
think
at
this
point
I'd
like
to
see
more
information
about
how
we're
benefiting
other
than
saying
we're
going
to
lobby
in
dc
and
wine
and
dying
that
we
actually
are
doing
something:
that's
protecting
our
environment
that
we're
really
committed
to
those
environmental
justice
issues
that
have
plagued
the
lab
for
for
a
long
time
for
for
decades.
F
F
B
M
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
I
didn't
say
I
didn't
want
to
hear
it.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
being
constructive
with
the
committee's
time
and
with
evaluating
what
it
is
you
want
to
hear
about
about
this.
So
I
again
I'm
I'm
happy.
I
said
I
was
happy
to
put
it
on
the
agenda,
but
let's
just
make
sure
that
you
know
it's
it's
a
worthwhile
period
of
time
that
we
spend
on
it.
M
I
would
also
say
that,
as
to
the
my
my
sense
is
the
staff
probably
paid
for
the
for
our
membership
because
we
approved
it
as
a
budget
line
item
or
within
a
line
item,
and
so
you
know
we
we
probably
signed
off
on
it,
maybe
with
not
without
real
recognizing
what
that
approval
did
so,
and
I
don't
know
if
kyle
has
a
comment
on
that
he
has
his
hand
up,
but
that's
all
I
have
thank
you.
B
R
Chair
counselor,
I
would
like
to
address
that
point.
The
payment
for
this
never
made
it
across
my
desk.
It
did
get
paid
through
the
city
manager's
office,
as
that
is
where
the
the
item
is
budgeted
from
upon
conversations
with
legal.
R
We
do
owe
those
membership
dues
unless
we
remove
ourselves
from
the
joint
powers
agreement,
either
the
original
or
if
we
were
to
approve
this
version,
this
version
as
well.
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
clarification.
T
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
guess
my
question
is
that
if
we
do
send
it
back
to
quality
of
life,
would
we
be
able
to
get
a
more
detailed
presentation
on
some
of
the
more
specific
outcomes
that
have
come
out
of
here?
You
know,
I
understand
we're
hearing
kind
of
these
broad
terms
about
advocacy
and
moving
things
forward,
but
I'd
really
be
very
interested
in
hearing
specifics.
You
know,
let's
drill
down
and
understanding
for
me,
that's
helpful.
I
understand.
T
We've
already
paid
our
membership
fees
and
and
really
for
this
year,
but
you
know
we're
we're
here,
we're
in
it,
but
I
do
think
for
me
as
understanding
our
role.
That
would
be
very
helpful.
So
I'm
curious.
Maybe
this
is
a
question
for
kyle.
If
it
does
go
to
quality
of
life,
you
know,
what's
the
possibility
of
us
being
able
to
have
a
more
in-depth
presentation,
that's
a
bit
more
specific
on
some
of
the
work
and
some
of
the
outcomes
that
have
come
out
of
the
coalition.
R
Chair
counselor,
I
do
believe
that
conversation
is
best
suited
for
quality
of
life
to
have
a
longer
format,
either
presentation
in
the
presentation
section,
as
well
as
the
updated
vote
in
the
consent
agenda.
R
I
think
that
that
would
make
sense
and
would
benefit
the
council's
understanding
and
the
community's
understanding
of
what
these
dollars
are
going
towards.
While
we
have
spent
them,
we
do
need
to
consider
our
membership
in
the
coalition
as
a
whole
as
well.
So
I
think
that
that
is
the
best
course
of
action
is,
is
what
I
would
advise
to
bring
it
back
to
quality
of
life
and
then
push
back
our.
R
I
would
assume
that
getting
on
quality
of
life
and
having
a
substantial
presentation
will
take
more
than
one
evening
to
prepare
or
two
evenings
to
prepare,
so
we
probably
likely
push
back
that
governing
body
date
to
make
sure
that
we're
all
on
the
same
page
and
that
we
have
the
substantive
information
to
present
as
well.
T
Thank
you
kyle.
I
appreciate
that,
and
so
with
that
I
would
like
to
make
a
motion
to
send
this
back
to
quality
of
life.
Kyle
would
the
quality
of
life
meeting
on
the?
Why
don't
I
see
one
on
the
24th.
M
M
B
Yes,
okay,
so
that's
the
action
on
that.
I
do
want
to
clarify,
though,
that
it
will
not
be
coming
back
to
finance
once
it
goes
to
quality
of
life.
Then
it
can
proceed
to
the
city
council,
so
I
just
want
to
make
that
comment
and
direction
clear
for
the
staff.
Thank
you,
okay.
So
that
brings
us
to
item
f,
which
is
a
resolution
updating
terms
of
resolution
2020-29
to
extend
the
duration
of
the
community
health
and
safety
task
force
through
the
end
of
calendar
year.
B
G
Thank
you
chair.
I
just
have
a
couple
of
questions
on
this.
I'm
wondering
if
task
force
are
required
to
operate
under
robert's
rules
of
order,
it
seem
it
seems,
like
they're
kind
of
informational
and
they're,
not
really,
I'm
not
sure
that
they're
bringing
forth
many
motions
and
and
that
kind
of
thing
so
do
we
have
a
requirement
that
task
force
operate
under
robert's
rules.
B
Who
could
answer
that
jennifer?
We.
D
Can
thank
you,
mr
chair
councillor,
lindell,
so
they're
from
the
state
which
requires
our
open
meetings
act
rules.
They
do
not
have
to
follow
robert's
rules,
they're,
not
policy
making
bodies.
They
don't
actually
need
to
follow
open
meetings
act
at
all,
but
the
council,
when
they
the
governing
body
when
they
approved
the,
I
want
to
say
it's
called
rules
and
procedures
for
city
committees.
D
G
Okay,
thank
you
for
that.
The
next
question
I
would
have
is
the
way
that
I
read
this
and
the
way
that
I
understand
it
is
that
we
have
certain
members
of
this
committee
or
people
that
used
to
be
members
of
this
committee
that
are
uncomfortable.
G
Speaking
in
public
about
some
specific
topics,
perhaps
some
of
their
own
personal
issues
that
they
don't
want
to
talk
about
publicly
and
I'm
wondering
if
a
task
force
like
this
has
an
opportunity
to
conduct
some
of
their
business
in
executive.
F
D
I
can
take
a
stab,
I
don't
know
necessarily
rules
around
executive
session.
I
would
have
to
ask
someone
from
legal
that
question,
but
I
think
I
want
to
address
a
couple
of
things
that
you
said
in
council.
Women,
vietnam
and
I
think,
council
rivera
is
still
on-
can
also
win
on
this-
that
it
was
a
consensus
of
the
task
force
that
these
changes
come
forward.
It
was
not
just
a
couple
members.
D
There
was
a
general
feeling
of
insecurity
and
a
couple
members
in
particular
some
serious
trauma
and
re-traumatizing
from
the
conversations
being
had.
So
I
just
wanted
to
point
that
out
too
that
this
was
a
consensus
of
the
task
force,
that
these
recommendations
come.
G
Forward
you
know
I'm
not
opposed
to
this.
I
probably
would
like
to
have
a
little
bit
more
information
on
it,
but
I'm
not
opposed
what
I
am
opposed
to
is
having
this
come
back
at
us.
I've
had
an
awful
lot
of
discussions
recently
about
transparency
and
I'm
not
interested
in
having
this
turn
into.
G
I
think
this
needs
to
be
thoroughly
discussed
at
every
committee
so
that
we
don't
get
into
governing
body
and
have
this
turn
into
a
slugfest
like
what
we've
seen
recently
on
transparency
and
and
being
lectured
about
transparency.
G
G
From
the
committee
discussions
of
where
they
stand
on
this,
and
that's
all
I
have
to
say
about
it,
thank
you.
M
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
so
I'm
struggling
with
this
and
probably
for
you
know
I
think
counselor
lindell
has
kind
of
kicked
this
off
a
bit.
I
I
completely
understand
the
the
trauma
of
having
to
tell
personal
stories
in
this
format,
and
I
think
I'm
also
the
wiser
now
that
we
have
installed
the
chart
process
about
how
we
have
these
really
difficult
conversations
and.
M
And
then,
on
the
other
side,
you
know
the
the
fact
that
policy
should
be
formed
and
talked
about
in
public,
so
that
we
can
understand
why
rules
are
being
made
and.
M
People
can
weigh
in
on
them.
I
I,
I
guess,
I'm
wondering,
and
I
don't
know
I
think
the
challenge
here
is
that
we
have
this.
You
know
this.
This
task
force
has
already
been
created
and
we
have
people
who
are
dedicating
their
time
and
and
energy
to
helping
us
with
a
really
important
subject,
and
so
that's
difficult
and
then.
M
I
just
wonder
I
guess,
if
there's
a
layer
that
we're
missing,
perhaps
that
maybe
some
of
these
lived
experiences
could
be
conveyed
to
the
task
force
in
a
different
way
or
could
be
gathered
or
could
be
discussed
it
in
an
added
layer,
maybe
outside
of
the
task
force,
and
so
that
makes
me
wonder
you
know
how
are
other
cities
having
these
difficult
conversations
that
help
inform
their
policies?
M
And
I
just
wonder
if
we
maybe
didn't
spend
enough
time
in
the
creation
of
this
task
force
and
whether
there
is
something
out
there
that
we
don't
know
that
would
really
help
us.
So
I
I
have
to
say
I
I'm
struggling
with
this,
and
I
don't
know
what
the
path
is.
I
don't
have
the
answer
I
all
I
can
say
is
I
I
understand
why
we're
talking
about.
M
A
different
process
for
people
sharing
their
lived
experiences,
but
I
also
understand
that
there's
discomfort
with
having
this
group
form
policy
outside
of
the
public's
ability
to
watch
it.
So
I
don't
have
an
answer.
I
don't
really
know
how
to
vote.
I
I
don't
know
how
we
should
move
forward
in
this,
and
all
I
can
tell
you
is
I'm
struggling
with
it.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
F
So
I
would
like
to
say
that
we
did
quite
a
bit
of
due
diligence
and
I
would
actually
direct
that
to
jennifer.
She
did
a
lot
of
research
of
different
models
of
task
forces
around
the
country
and
what
they
look
like
and
how
they're
structured
some
were
somewhat
somewhere
structured
kind
of
how
we
were.
We
are
structured,
but
a
lot
of
others
were
actually
community-led.
F
F
That
sounds
more
like
more
of
a
forum
where
people
can
actually
be
more
authentic
people
can
share
their
experiences
and
it
wouldn't
be
as
traumatizing
as
being
listened
to
on
a
zoo
meeting
or
having
people
in
the
community
not
understand
where
people
are
coming
from
because
of
their
lived
experience,
so
we're
in
a
conundrum.
F
We
struggled
with
this
from
the
very
beginning
about
structure
like
how
many
members,
what
does
it
look
like?
Could
they
get
into
smaller
working
groups
and
not
have
to
deal
with
having
a
quorum,
and
so
we
wanted
to
be
able
to
have
that
flexibility.
But
ultimately,
I
think
there's
just
consensus
within
the
committee
itself.
F
I
don't
feel
like
they've
wasted
their
time,
but
we
we
did
take
a
you
know,
six
meetings
in
since
november
to
like
start
talking
about
things
and
it
was
slow
going
mostly
because
we're
on
zoom
that
puts
a
whole
other
layer
of
complexity
and
challenges
and
built
trying
to
build
trust,
and
so
that
in
itself
was
challenging,
but
we
didn't
get
we
weren't
able
to
finalize
and
get
approval
for
a
facilitator
to
onboard
them
until
three
meetings
in
so
we
had
a
facilitator
and
once
the
facilitator
facilitator
came
to
the
table,
it
really,
you
could
see
how
people
were
struggling,
not
just
with
the
fact
that
we're
talking
about
a
very
sensitive
topic.
F
It's
has
traumatic
content
already,
but
I
think
what
it
is
is
that
we
have
members
that
also
feel
like
our
structure
is
not
conducive
to
make.
You
feel
comfortable
even
talking
about
the
subject
having
to
do
the
way
we
structure
our
own
meetings
in
the
council
and
having
to
do
votes.
We're
not
voting
any
at
this
point,
but
I
just
think
that
having
a
parliamentary
procedure
as
a
way
to
structure
community
committees
does
not
make
sense,
it's
off-putting.
It
isolates
people
it
makes
them
feel
like
wait.
F
F
That's
ridiculous,
like
I
feel
like
that
really
puts
limitations
on
all
our
committees,
but
this
one
in
particular,
that's
already
a
barrier
to
people
feeling
comfortable
to
be
able
to
share
what
they
think
and
then
the
topic
itself
feels
very
it's
a
sensitive
topic,
and
I
I
guess
what
I
do
want
to
share
is
that
I
don't
see,
and
none
of
the
committee,
the
committee
members
or
task
force
members
want
our
meetings
to
be
closed.
F
We
just
want
to
be
able
to
work
out
some
of
the
details
and
start
having
our
working
group
so
that
we
can
start
getting
to
those
core
issues,
and
then
we
will
be
doing
presentations
to
the
general
public
and
also
the
goal
was
especially
from
taskbar
task
force
members.
They
were
really
committed
to
community
input
and
having
transparency,
so
we
wanted
to
have
community
dialogues
in
some
way.
We
just
didn't
know
how
the
format
could
be
and
we
wanted
to
give
updates
to
the
public
for
sure
about
like
what
have
we
accomplished
thus
far.
F
B
Force,
thank
you.
Councilwoman
romero
worth
you.
Are
you
finished
or
do
you
have
more
questions
or
comments.
M
Well,
I
was
finished
except
for
that
last
statement,
so
I
mean,
I
guess
that's
the
question,
though,
did
you
have
any
conversation
about?
I
mean.
Maybe
this
task
force
is
not
the
right
structure.
Maybe
it
would
be
better
not
to
have
a
task
force
and
to
start
over
with
a
different
structure
that
could
get
us
the
information
we
need
in
a
manner
where
people
don't
feel
threatened.
M
I
mean
I
I'm
I'm
very
sympathetic
to
you
know
the
trauma
of
of
people
having
to
provide
on
a
recorded
youtube
like
we're
doing
right
now
their
lived
experiences
and
it's
putting
that
out
into
the
world
and
it's
there
forever,
and
these
are
very
personal
stories
and
and
feelings,
and
I
I
don't
know
I
just
wonder
I
I
just
feel
I
just
feel
like
we're
a
little
smarter
now
having
done
the
chart
work,
which
is
you
know,
kind
of
parallel,
and
and
was
there
any
weighing
about,
I
mean,
maybe
we
missed
the
mark
and
it
would
be
better
to
start
over
and
and
to
look
at
other
structures,
rather
than
try
to
you
know,
put
a
square
peg
in
a
round
hole.
F
Well,
I
think
this
has
been
the
first
attempt
to
try
to
change
a
structure
and
yeah.
I
mean
it's
hard
to
say
what
the
committee,
the
test
course
members
right
now,
if
they'd
rather
just
do
it
on
their
own
and
have
and
lead
it
themselves
versus
it
being
structured
under
our
umbrella
under
government
structure.
I
don't
know
I
I'm
conflicted
about
that
so
yeah,
I
I
don't
know
if
councillor
rivera
wants
to
weigh
in
I
know
he's
still
on.
B
But
I
I
would
like
to
get
to
council
cassette
sanchez
too.
She
may
have
an
opinion
on
this
very
subject
and
then
yeah
by
all
means.
I
I'd
I'd
like
to
hear
from
council
rivera
also.
T
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chair,
and
you
know
I
do
think
this
is
an
important
conversation
and
I
am
very
much
in
favor
of
their
being
the
capability
of
of
these
private
conversations
to
happen.
You
know,
I
think
the
the
one
thing
I
have
to
say
that
hasn't
really
been
said.
Yet
is
that
in
terms
of
policy
creation,
when
push
comes
to
shove,
we're
the
ones
that
create
policy?
T
Where
does
this
necessarily
come
from
in
a
way?
That's
not
calling
individuals
out
and
making
them
feel
that
they're
unsafe.
But
I
do
think
that
that
is
a
big
part
of
this.
This
process,
that,
even
if
the
discussions,
because
if
the
discussions
happen
at
a
community
level,
guess
what
those
aren't
in
public
either
and
then
you
know
we
would
eventually
have
people
coming
to
us
and
say:
hey.
We
did
these
discussions
at
a
community
level.
T
I
do
think
that
there's
benefit
in
it
being
within
the
city
structure,
because
there
are.
There
are
considerations
when
you
are
recommending
policy
to
the
city
and
what
we
can
do
and
what
we
can't
do
and
all
these
other
pieces
that
we're
constantly
thinking
about.
When
somebody
comes
to
us
and
says:
hey,
that's
a
great
policy
idea
and
then
because
we
see
the
city
as
a
whole,
and
we
are
looking
at
budgetary
and
operation
issues
that
we
can
weigh
in
and
help
come
to
some
of
those
conclusions.
T
So
I
would
like
to
see
how
we
can
find
this
balance,
and
it
might
mean
that
when
policy
is
coming
forward,
policy
recommendations
are
coming
forward
from
this
group
that
it
is
done
in
such
a
way
to
really
make
sure
that
we
are
providing
that
transparency
and
then
we
we
vote,
and
we
we
have
to
do
that
in
public,
as
we
have
discussed
multiple
times
in
the
last
couple
weeks.
Those
are
all
my
comments
for
now.
Thank
you.
B
And
before
I
go
to
council
women
remember
worth
again,
I
would
like
to
state
that
I
I
support
what
councilwoman
villarreal
and
council
rivera
are
proposing.
I'm
basically
I'd
like
to
give
them
the
benefit
of
the
doubt,
because
they've
one
they
agreed
to
take
on
the
sensitive
topic
and
and
and
issue
that
we
we're
all
dealing
with
not
only
as
a
city
but
as
a
country
and
they've
experienced
it
and
they're.
B
Coming
back
to
us
and
saying
these
are
the
changes
we
need
to
make
if
we
want
this
to
be
effective
and
and
real
change
to
come
out
of
it,
and
so
I
know
transparency,
that's
always
a
concern,
but
again
I
think,
given
what
we're
dealing
with
and
their
experience
and
their
willingness
to
step
up
and
take
this
on
for
us,
I'm
I
I'm
supporting
the
resolution.
Councilwoman
romero
worth.
M
I
just
was
there
any
conversation
about,
maybe
pausing
the
task
force
for
a
bit
and
taking
time
to
have
some
community
facilitated
conversations
with
within
and
across
different
stakeholder
groups,
and
would
would
that
you
know
I
mean
it
would
give
the
added
benefit,
maybe
of
getting
us
through
this
covid
situation
and
and
and
getting
off
of
zoom
which,
to
your
point,
counselor
vrael
just
adds
another
layer
in
a
in
a
really
sensitive,
tricky
conversation,
and
I
just
wonder
you
know
I,
and
I
also
wonder
whether
the
how
the
task
force
members
feel
in
terms
of
you
know
being
the
representatives
of
of
their
various
groups.
M
You
know:
do
they
do
they?
Would
they
like
the
opportunity
to
be
able
to
have
some
facilitated
conversations
to
help
inform
the
information
that
they're
providing
to
the
task
force,
or
you
know,
or
has
that
work
already
been
done
in
other
ways
and,
and
you
know,
are
there
other
people
out
there
who
would
partner
with
us?
Because,
as
as
the
chair
mentions,
I
mean
this
is
not
just
a
a
problem
within
our
community,
but
it's
a
national
conversation
and
you
know
I
and
an
important
one.
M
So
I
don't
know
just
some
more
thoughts.
B
F
You
know
I
don't
I
don't
know
if
the
we're
actually
taking
a
pause
right
now,
while
we
shepherd
this.
These
changes
to
the
resolution
and
in
terms
of
the
interest
for
the
task
force
they
actually
have
in
terms
of
how
we're
wanting
to
get
input
from
community
members.
There
has
been
great
interest
for
members
to
actually
hold
community
conversations
within
their
own
network,
whether
it's
with
their
organization
or
with
their
community,
and
that's
what
we
still
want
to
do.
That
was
the
intention.
F
Actually
that
was
what
we
wanted
to
do
as
we
move
this
work
forward.
I
think
the
challenge
has
been
not
having
the
kind
of
budget
to
facilitate
these
kinds
of
conversations
like
chart.
Does
I
mean
look
at
the
budget
for
that
300
000
and
we
have
a
10
000
facilitator.
Now,
that's
just
ridiculous.
We
can't
expect
a
facilitator
who's,
just
doing
it
as
a
like
quarter
job
from
for
her
real
job,
but
to
have
that
person
facilitate
these
other
kind
of
smaller
community
conversations.
F
So
I
think,
there's
some
members
that
wanted
to
do
that
anyway,
even
if
we
didn't
have
a
facilitator
that
they
would
do
that
within
their
own
network
with
community
members
that
they
already
have
built
trust
with
it's
just
that
if
we
are
trying
to
look
at
this
like
a
chart
model,
there
would
be
no
way
the
way
it's
structured
now
to
be
able
to
have
the
kind
of
conversations
facilitated
in
a
meaningful
way.
M
M
Completely
agree
that
there
you
know
that
that
it's
that's
why.
I
almost
think
that
this
is
a
bigger.
You
know
this
is
a
bigger
community
conversation
and
we
need
you
know
other
people
partnering
and
playing
in
in
on
this
issue,
because
you
know
we
can't.
I
mean
there
are
limits
to
to
our
resources
and
and
that's
why
you
know,
given
that
this
is
a
national
conversation
and
an
on
an
important
topic.
M
You
know
it
seems
like
we
need
to
bring
other
people
in
to
help
us
have
these
conversations
and
to
help
you
know,
move
the
work
forward,
so
I
I
don't
know
I
I
just
really
struggle
with
this.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
L
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
don't
have
that
much
more
to
add,
I
think
councilwoman
villarreal
and
casa
sanchez,
as
well
as
yourself
have
summed
it
up
pretty.
Well,
it's
it's
a
tough
discussion.
I
understand
how
councilwoman
romero
worth
and
lindell
feel
we've
had
these
discussions
ourselves.
L
The
one
thing
that
I
think
a
lot
of
people
are
forgetting
is
that
this
committee
has
already
began
meetings,
so
we've
already
begun
the
process
of
establishing
relationships
and
trusting
each
other
and
the
loss
of
two
of
our
members.
I
think
really
hurt
the
the
entire
committee
and
trying
to
really
salvage
what
we
have
to
continue
the
work
and
continue
to
produce
results
and
have
meaningful
discussions
with
meaningful
things
that
come
out
of
it
and
that's
the
hard
part
and,
I
think,
to
start
over.
L
Had
responded
to
the
trump,
the
sorry,
not
the
chart
committee,
this
task
force
the
health
and
safety
task
force
initially
and
they
you
know
we
selected
through
a
lengthy
process
of
dealing
with
many
people
and
sorry
for
the
background
nice.
So
to
start
over
again,
I
think
would
would
not
anger
a
lot
of
people
but
maybe
alienate
some
people.
Maybe
people
that
were
interested
that
are
on
the
committee
may
not
want
to
go
through
that
whole
process
all
over
again.
L
So
it
would
be
nice
to
to
move
this
forward
and
and
see
how
it
works,
and
we
have
one
process:
that's
going
through
the
committee
route
and
then
we
have
this
process,
that's
going
through
the
kind
of
government
and
political
route,
and
you
know
they
may
yield
completely
different
results.
L
One
one
way
may
work
better
than
the
other,
but
I
think
this
is
worth
worth
a
shot.
So
I
think
that's
all
I
have
mr
chair.
Thank
you.
I'm
here
for
questions
as
well.
If
anyone
has
questions
with
me,.
B
Okay,
thank
you,
counselor
garcia,
you're.
Still
on
the
call
did
you
want
to
add
anything
before
I
call
for
a
motion?
No,
mr
chair.
Thank
you.
Okay,
I'm
gonna
move
for
approval,
as
presented.
F
B
Okay,
there's
a
second
any
further
discussion
and
this
still
goes
to
quality
of
life.
That's
so,
I
think,
there's
going
to
be
lots
of
conversation
there
also
before
it
goes
to
the
governing
body.
So
any
other
discussion
you
can
have
a
roll
call.
Please,
yes,.
J
B
Okay,
thank
you,
okay.
So
that
concludes
our
items
that
were
pulled
from
the
consent.
Calendar
matters
from
staff.
H
Yes,
mr
chair,
thank
you.
We
have
a
few
updates
for
the
committee
this
evening.
The
first
is
on
the
17,
and
a
half
million
dollar
cares
act.
That
grant
has
been
fully
reimbursed
by
dfa,
so
we've
received
all
of
that.
It
was
a
good
job.
H
But
a
successful
endeavor
from
the
fall
when
we
applied
for
the
grant,
received
the
grant
and
now
have
received
the
full
host
of
funding
back
to
the
city.
So.
A
H
Appreciate
all
of
the
time
and
effort
that
this
committee
and
the
governing
body
spent
to
work
through
that
process
in
the
fall
and,
of
course,
to
our
staff,
who
have
processed
and
gotten
those
dollars
out
and
are
using
and
have
been
using,
the
ppe
and
the
equipment
to
address
the
the
impacts
of
copen.
So
very
positive
news
there.
Just
a
quick
recap.
I
know
we
gave
this
back
in
january
when
we
did
the
final
submission.
H
But
I
just
wanted
to
give
an
another
quick
recap
of
how
that
funding
was
spent,
approximately
eight
million
for
public
health
and
safety
employees
about
a
hundred
thousand
for
the
midtown
emergency
shelter.
One
million
for
paid
administrative
leave,
sick
leave
and
expanded
fmla,
a
1
million
that
was
about
1
million
close
to
900
000
for
equipment
and
supplies
to
address
the
pandemic.
H
So
again,
kudos
to
all
the
staff
and
again,
though,
that
the
majority
of
those
dollars
went
directly
to
individuals
or
to
assist
our
staff
with
managing
the
very
unprecedented
unexpected
pandemic
that
we've
lived
through.
That's
the
first
item,
the
second
item:
I'm
going
to
be
emailing
this
out
and
sending
this
to
you
all
it's
a
pdf.
H
We
started
to
go
through
this
last
year
before
covid
with
the
implementation
of
munis,
and
then
we
got
away
from
this,
but
this
was
a
very
helpful
format
that
we
had
to
continue
to
provide
updates
to
the
finance
committee
on
the
work
of
the
finance
department.
H
So
if
you
can
see
on
your
screen
now,
what
we
will
be
providing
on
a
monthly
basis,
is
updates
on
different
processing
of
different
workflows
and
key
activities
for
each
of
the
divisions
throughout
finance.
So,
for
example,
in
procurement,
what's
relevant
is
the
number
of
contracts
or
pos
or
rfps
processed
trainings?
You
know
the
work
that
they've
been
doing
to
update
and
standardize
our
templates
and
our
web
pages
for
internal
and
external
use
and
policies
and
procedures
as
well.
H
The
amount
of
work
that
is
done
by
two
incredible
individuals
in
our
accounts,
payable
division
processing
and
reviewing
multiple
invoices.
You
know
the
work
our
budget
was
reduced
significantly
in
fy
21
and
the
work
continues
for
them
and
and
their
workload
very.
H
Similarly,
in
accounting,
you
know
the
number
of
daily
transactions
and
and
batches
and
trainings
that
they
have
had
to
approve
same
with
budget
in
hr
actions
or
budgets,
approved
contracts,
budget
adjustments,
our
one
person
a
risk
shop,
together
with
the
manager
of
that
division
process
general
everything
from
general
liability
claims
to
post
accident
risk
assessments,
they're
very
busy
shop
there,
which
is
limited
staff,
our
treasury.
You
know
the
amount
of
monthly
transactions
that
we
process
from
various
sources
from
credit
cards.
Cash
wires
to
our
fleet
shop.
H
Folks,
often
forget
that
fleet
is
also
within
finance,
but
our
fleet
shop
processes,
multiple
work,
orders
for
for
our
fleet,
city-wide
everything
from
tire
changes
to
for
our
pd
to
more
heavy
equipment,
work,
orders,
repairs
and
replacements
that
that
take
much
longer
in
time.
H
We
also
manage
the
fuel
station,
that's
located
in
the
midtown
area
on
xyler,
and
we
have
our
admin
department
as
well,
so
that's
carolyn
and
myself,
and
she
also
processes
several
internal
operations
and
workflows
and
processes
for
our
department,
but
also
manages
the
agendas
of
the
finance
committee
and
the
audit
committee
as
well.
So
this
will
be
coming
to
you
on
a
monthly
basis
as
an
update.
H
If
you
have
any
questions
on
this
or
what
it
entails,
please,
we
can
go
ahead
and
revise
this
report
or
update
this
report
to
include
the
information
that
you
want
to
see
here.
I
think
what
is
really
important
is
to
continuously
keep
you
updated
again.
We
had
started
this
last
year
with
the
implementation
of
munis
with
regular
updates,
and
we
want
to
continue
that.
So
you
understand
the
level
the
volume
and
the
workload
that
our
our
staff
is
processing.
B
B
Maybe
just
the
total
number
in
the
department
or
the
section,
because
it
seems
like
an
awful
lot
of
rfps
and
purchasing
requests,
and
things
of
that
matter
were
filled
in
in
purchasing
and
one
of
my
concerns
again
having
come
from
the
county
and
seeing
the
size
of
their
purchasing
shops
and
compared
to
ours.
B
That
seemed
like
a
that
seems
like
a
lot
of
work
coming
out
of
that
office,
which
is
great,
but
it
would
also
be
helpful
to
know,
especially
as
we
go
into
budget
season
if
we
need
more
more
positions
in
certain
areas
of
the
finance
department
and,
like
I
said
that
may
or
may
not
be
the
case
with
purchasing.
But
this
information
is
very
helpful
as
we
start
to
make
those
decisions.
H
Yes,
mr
chair,
we
can
provide
that
information.
I
think
it's
really
important
to
highlight
that
during
the
fy
21
budget,
we
did
request
one
extra
position
in
the
procurement
division.
Because
of
these
conversations
with
the
committee
in
the
last
few
years,
we
were
able
to
fill
that
position,
so
we
now
have
four
full-time
employees.
H
The
county
to
your
earlier
point
is
about.
Is
their
budget
is
much
lower
than
the
cities
and
they
have
about
double?
They
have
about
eight
or
nine
people
in
their
procurement
office
to
process
a
budget
and
manage
operations
that
are
much
smaller.
So
that
being
said
again,
if
there's
any
other
information
or
questions
that
you
have
once
you
do
get
this
information,
please
let
me
know,
and
we
can
have
the
staff
available
for
review
with
you.
H
The
next
update
that
I
have
is
regarding
the
fy20
audit.
So
I'm
going
to
share
this
with
you.
This
is
another
document
that
I
will
be
emailing
to
the
committee.
This
was
a
communication
that
we
sent
to
brian,
a
colon,
the
state
auditor,
as
he
requested
with
an
fy20
status,
update
the
update
here
that
he
requested
is
the
timeline
for
fy20
audit.
We
started
back
in
october
with
our
entrance
conference
for
the
city,
leadership
and
the
chairs
of
our
committees
and
cla
as
well.
The
next
step.
H
H
That
communication
was
provided
in
writing
to
the
osa
we
have
continuously
since
the
fall
since
september
been
meeting
with
the
the
staff
from
our
external
auditor
cla,
we
meet
weekly
to
be
able
to
update
them
to
answer
any
questions
that
they
have
to
be
able
to
give
them
highlights
of
some
of
the
challenges
that
we
are
having
to
ensure
they
have
the
appropriate
access
to
our
systems,
both
e1
and
munis,
and
that
they're
having
no
technical
issues
mid-february.
H
We
did
notify
city
leadership
and
the
audit
committee
chair
and
the
osa
staff
that
we
would
not
reach
our
march
31st
deadline
as
we
had
previously
communicated
in
october.
H
So
what
our
schedule
looks
like
from
here
on
out
is
that
our
trial
balance,
which
is
our
used
to
create
our
financials
into
to
review
by
the
by
cla,
as
well
as
our
provided
by
client
list,
which
is
all
of
the
associated
accounting
schedules
and
calculations
that
they
need
to
review
that
back
up
our
trial
balance.
All
of
that
will
be
submitted
by
march
31st.
H
So
the
three
month
review
period
very
similar
to
last
year,
will
begin
on
in
april,
and
our
target
date
for
completion
of
the
kafir
is
the
end
of
june,
so
june,
30th
very
similar
to
last
year.
So
we
have
committed
to
providing
these
written
updates
to
to
the
osa
as
well
to
keep
him
informed
and
that's
that
was
the
purpose
of
this
particular
memo.
H
B
No
okay!
Thank
you!
Thank
you
for
that
update
mary
and
yes,
if
you
can
keep
us
surprised
of
the
progress
that
we're
making
on
the
audit,
that
would
be
great.
Yes,.
H
And
then
yeah
a
few
more
I'll,
keep
it
brief.
I
understand
that
it's
late,
we
did
one.
I
didn't
want
to
highlight
the
fy
21
december
grt
report
that
was
sent
out
in
the
middle
of
last
week.
So
let
me
pull
that
up
briefly
to
discuss
that
with
the
committee
here.
We
see
these
are
the
monthly
reports.
This
is
the
memo
that
we
send
out
that
brad
prepares
to
discuss
the
gross
receipts
tax
revenue
coming
in
as
distributed
by
the
taxation
and
revenue
department.
H
H
If
we,
if
you
recall
when
we
originally
submitted
this
budget,
our
our
goal
was
about
a
twenty
percent
reduction
or
a
projection
was
a
twenty
percent
reduction
in
grt.
So,
actually,
let
me
take
a
step
back.
We
talk
about
grt
in
two
different
ways:
the
taxable
gross
receipts,
which
is
the
revenue
generated
by
our
businesses.
That's
this
first
chart
that
you
have
in
your
memo.
H
This
shows
252
million
in
taxable
gross
receipts.
That
have
been
reduced
in
the
period
from
july
to
december
as
compared
to
the
previous
year.
This
is
a
significant
amount
of
revenue
that
our
local
businesses
have
lost.
So
then,
if
we
fast
forward
to
what
the
city
receives
from
that,
this
is
the
period.
This
is
on
the
second
page
of
your
memo
from
july
to
december
that
same
period,
and
we
have
lost
a
total
of
approximately
19
or
12.3
million
in
that
july
to
december
period.
H
Sorry,
I
keep
going
back
and
forth
so
from
july
of
2019
to
december
of
2019
as
compared
to
july
of
2020,
which
is
the
orange
bars
to
july
december.
2020.
We've
lost
about
19,
so
a
little
bit
under
the
20
that
we
had
committed
to
so
taking
a
a
little
bit
of
a
stroll
back
memory
lane
last
year,
when
covet
hit
the
most
severe
shutdowns
were
in
the
spring,
when
we
were
closing
out
the
fy
20
fiscal
year.
H
Dfa
did
allow
us
those
extra
few
months,
so
we
did
produce
about
three
budgets
during
for
the
current
fiscal
year,
where
we
continued
to
revise,
as
we
received
additional
data
points,
so
this
body
approved
the
fy
21
budget
in
july,
so
we
did
commit
at
that
time
to
continuously
reviewing
our
revenue
sources
at
the
next
finance
committee
meeting
on
march
22nd,
we
will
be
providing
an
entire
outlook
and
updates
from
the
first
quarter,
update
on
all
of
our
revenue,
sources
and
expenditures,
as
well
as
the
the
outlook
for
the
remainder
of
the
fiscal
year.
H
So
that
being
said,
we
know
for
the
first
six
months
of
fy21,
we
hit
our
close
to
our
20
redu
reduction
in
grt.
As
you
know,
we
are
now
in
the
yellow
zone
in
the
public
health
orders
and
going
towards
green
and
beyond.
You
know,
turquoise
whatever
is
beyond
green
and
turquoise,
so
there
is
more
positive
projections
that
we
see
for
the
second
half
of
this
current
fiscal
year.
H
So
that
being
said,
we
do
plan
to
start
to
bring
forward
different
budget
adjustments
that
to
be
able
to
take
advantage
of
that
additional
recurring
revenue.
There
have
been
other
sources
of
revenue,
unfortunately,
that
have
not
performed
as
strongly
as
our
grt
gas
tax.
For
example,
we'll
highlight
some
of
those
areas
where
we
will
have
to
use
the
additional
revenue
from
grt
to
be
able
to
support
those
other
revenue
sources
that
did
not
come
in
at
our
projections,
so
we'll
be
able
to
give
you
that
full
fuller
picture.
H
We
have
also
contracted
with
an
economist
out
of
unm
and
a
finance
expert
to
assist
us.
You
know
with
the
certainty
to
understand
the
trends
of
the
last
year
now
that
we
have
a
bit
of
a
developed
pattern
with
the
construction
industry
being
one
of
our
stronger
industries
to
be
able
to
better
plan
out
for
21
and
for
our
fy
22
budget.
H
So
if
there's
no
questions
on
on
the
current
grt
july
to
december
outlook,
I
can
go
ahead
and
jump
into
our
fy
22
update.
H
Okay,
so
with
that
fy
22,
we
do
see
the
beginning
of
an
economic
recovery
now
in
the
spring
and
moving
into
fy
22.
So
there
will
be
additional
instructions
given
out
to
departments
on
on
budget
increases,
we're
taking
a
fund
by
fund
approach
where
each
all
of
the
revenue
coming
into
our
70
different
funds
will
be
performing
at
different
strengths,
some
stronger
than
others,
and
so
that
will
largely
guide.
Our
projections
fund
by
fund
will
largely
guide
the
increases
for
fy
22..
H
That
being
said,
we
will
be
holding
a
public
hearing
on
march
10th
at
the
governing
body
meeting
to
solicit
input
from
the
public
on
what
their
priorities
are
and
what
they
would
like
to
see
funded
in
the
fy
22
budget.
So
we
look
forward
to
having
more
communications
over
the
next
week
and
a
half
to
get
that
message
out
to
the
public.
H
They
will
have
this
opportunity
to
to
be
able
to
weigh
in
on
the
fy
22
budget.
Similarly,
alexis
lotero,
our
budget
officer
will
be
contacting
all
of
you
to
solicit
your
input
on
your
fy
22
budget
for
city
council.
This
was
you
know.
H
We
heard
this
allowed
both
of
these
points
loud
and
clear
during
the
last
budget
round
that
you
would
like
input
from
the
community
ahead
of
the
budget
hearings
and
also
you
would
like
input
on
your
own
fy
22
budget,
so
keep
in
mind
that
will
be
coming
in
the
in
the
coming
days
and
we
would
love
to
hear
if
you
would
like
to
add
in
anything
from
travel
to
supplies,
to
equipment
anything
that
you
would
need
to
be
able
to
to
serve
in
your
roles
and
your
positions
in
the
next
fiscal
year,
and
I
think
that
covers
all
of
the
updates
that
I
have
for
you
tonight.
B
All
right,
thank
you,
mary,
let's
see
next
is
matters
from
the
committee.
Is
there
anything
from
the
committee.
F
H
I
believe
there
are
multiple
avenues
that
our
communications
team
will
be
using
from
social
media
to
press
releases
and
everything
in
between.
If
there
is
a
particular
format
that
you
would
like
or
particular
constituency
that
you
would
like
us
to
reach
out
to
please
let
us
know,
and
we
can
go
ahead
and
and
make
sure
we
send
the
information
to
them
I'll,
be
giving
a
brief
kind
of
10.
H
000
foot
view
a
presentation
on
you
know
which
departments
receive
what
type
of
funding,
and
you
know
that
what
our
total
budget
is
just
in
maybe
two
or
three
slides
ahead
of
that
public
engagement.
F
Okay,
thank
you
and
so
that's
a
separate
item
where
people
it
won't
be
petitions
from
the
floor.
It's
an
actual
public
hearing.
Okay,
mr.
B
T
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
had
similar
questions
about
how
we're
getting
the
word
out
there.
I
really
want
to
thank
the
team
for
putting
this
forward.
I
think
that
it's
a
really
important.
It's
a
really
important
part
of
the
budget
budgeting
process.
I'm
really
glad
that
we
are
highlighting
it
this
year,
as
council
romero
worth
has
said
in
the
past.
Something
along
you
know,
money
is
policy
or
budget
is
policy,
but
when
bush
comes
to
shop,
if
the
dollars
aren't
there,
the
policy
is
not
there
either.
T
So
I'm
very
glad
that
we're
doing
this-
and
I
did
just
really
want
to
say
thank
you
to
mary,
your
team
and,
to
I
mean
pretty
much-
every
single
staff
member
for
those
karazak
dollars.
I
know
that
when
I
was
speaking
with
staff
in
literally
any
department
at
that
juncture,
there
was
always
some
comment
about
the
work
that
was
going
into
getting
those
dollars
out
and
spending
those
dollars.
So
thank
you.
T
I
know
that
your
team
really
had
to
do
you
guys
do
the
you
know
not
as
glamorous
stuff,
that's
not
as
visible,
but
it's
crucial
and
we
can't
do
anything
else
without
it.
Not
that
I
would
categorize
anything
with
covet
as
glamorous
per
se,
but
you
guys
really
don't
do
as
much
of
the
visible
work
so
the
behind-the-scenes
work
that
has
to
happen
so
that
our
other
departments
can
also
be
doing
the
really
hard
grunt
work
is
is
crucial.
So
thank
you
so
much.
Please
pass
that
on
to
your
team.
T
Please
pass
that
on
to
the
other
department
directors.
It
was
a
monumental
effort
and
we
are
so
grateful
that
y'all
were
able
to
spend
those
dollars
in
such
a
short
amount
of
time.
So
that
was
all
thank
you.
B
Okay
matters
from
the
chair
just
briefly
today,
march
1st
is
covet
19
memorial
day,
and
so,
if
you
haven't
already
take
the
time
before
the
end
of
the
day,
to
remember
those
that
have
been
impacted
by
this
horrible
pandemic,
I
know
for
myself
my
friend
pat
holmes,
his
dad
passed
away
due
to
coven
19
and
so
that
hit
pretty
close
to
home,
and
I
know
it
really
affected
him
and
his
family
and
so
again
today's
memorial
day
for
coba
19.
B
So
it's
also
my
understanding,
councilwoman
romero
worth,
and
maybe
you
can
research,
this
related
to
covet
19.
You
have,
I
know,
you've
got
quality
of
life
on
wednesday,
but
I
think
the
mayor
has
either
reached
out
to
doh
or
had
a
conversation
with
doh
regarding
vaccinations
and
the
lack
of
residents
in
87507
and
87505
being
vaccinated,
and
so
I
don't
know-
and
I
think
he
he
put
out
there-
that
the
city
will
participate.
B
However,
we
can
to
ensure
that
more
people
and
those
two
area
codes
get
vaccinated,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
a
heads
up,
because
I
heard
something
about
that
and
you
may
want
to
follow
up
with
your
quality
of
life
committee
meeting
on
wednesday.
B
So
with
that,
our
next
meeting
is
monday
march
22nd.
If
there
is
nothing
else
which
I
don't
believe
there
is,
we
are
adjourned.