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B
Okay,
I'd
like
to
call
to
order
the
finance
committee
meeting
monday
june
15th
2020
at
approximately
5
p.m.
Can
I
have
a
roll
call?
Please?
Yes,
sir
chair
council,
ramana.
C
B
Mr
chair,
okay,
thank
you
under
approval
of
the
agenda.
I
don't
know
if
it's
just
the
agenda
I
had
printed,
but
the
lettering
falls
off
after
item
d.
Then
it
goes
back
to
a
then
b,
then
c,
then
e
and
then
so
if
we
can
change
the
agenda
so
that
a
goes
into
e,
the
second,
a
after
d.
Does
everybody
see
that.
C
B
Mine
like
that
too,
okay,
so
then,
if
we
can
just
pick
up
after
d,
the
a
will
become
e
b
becomes
f
and
down
to
the
rest
of
the
agenda.
Is
that
good.
B
Okay
and
then,
and
then
I
also
want
to
know
under
the
agenda
item
j,
which
was
the
old
item
g,
the
resolution
for
the
cell
of
potable
water
councilwoman
v
hill
koppler
is
also
a
sponsor
of
that.
So
we
need
to
make
sure
jesse
can
please
add
that
before
it
goes
to
the
governing
body,
that
would
be
great.
B
B
That's
been
taken
off
the
agenda
right
right,
mr
chairman,
and
then
the
next
item,
which
is
an
approval:
approval
of
a
service
contract,
544
500
for
design
build
for
the
water
street
parking
lot,
that's
been
removed,
also
right
and
because
they
are
they're
already
scheduled
for
council,
or
they
were
already
heard
by
council.
Is
that
what
mr.
B
E
I
think
sig
and
I
have
the
same
thing.
We
don't
need
to
make
adjustments
with
the
lettering.
It's
item
d,
as
in
dog,
instead
of
saying
one,
two
three
under
it,
they
put
a
b
c.
F
Okay,
additionally,
chair
lindell,
is
a
co-sponsor
on
the
sale
of
potable
water.
B
D
G
B
Okay,
so
any
other
changes
to
the
agenda
itself.
That's
the
agenda,
not
the
consent,
we'll
do
that.
Next.
B
C
Sir
chair
romana
beta:
yes,
counselor
sidney;
lindell;
yes,
counselor
carol;
romeroworth,
yes,
counselor
renee,
viriel,
yes,
counselor,
jamie
cassette
sanchez,
yes,
motion.
B
Passes:
okay,
approval
of
the
consent
agenda.
I
received
a
request
earlier
to
remove
item
7a,
so
we
can
have
discussion
under
7a.
B
B
B
C
B
E
E
Some
adjustments,
if
you
go
through
the
documents
or
go
through
the
minutes,
we
say.
E
E
Starts
at
page
eight,
and
it
goes
throughout
the
document,
all
the
way
to
page
14.
I'll
fix
that.
Thank
you.
That's
all.
I.
B
Have
mr
chair?
Okay,
as
anything
else
is
there
a
motion
move
to
approve
is
amended.
Second,
okay.
Can
I
have
a
roll
call?
Please.
B
B
One:
an
amendment
to
the
2009
annual
action
plan
to
increase
cdbg
resources
by
361
227
via
the
cares
act,
funding
provided
by
hud
two,
a
budget
adjustment
request
to
increase
the
revenues
by
361
227
dollars
and
move
funds
and
three
approval
of
a
professional
service
agreement
plus
project
budget
in
the
total
amount
of
361
227
of
the
karzak
funds
for
providing
oversight
and
management
of
the
midtown
shelter
new
mexico
coalition
to
end
homelessness.
H
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
actually
I
sent
you
an
email
that
I
no
longer
needed
to
pull
this
item,
so
I
feel
pretty
good,
although
alex
alexander
I'd
be
interested
to
hear,
and
I'm
not
sure
that
you
are
the
correct
person
to
respond
to
this.
This
might
be
more
of
a
question
for
kyra
or
regina
about
how
this
is
going
to
help
us
really
transition
out
of
the
midtown
shelter
being
a
city-run
facility
and
what
those
long-term
plans
are,
because
my
understanding
is.
I
Mr
chair
counselor
casa
sanchez,
the
what
this
enables
us
to
do
because
we
want
the
first
step
is
to
transition
out
of
using
city
staff
right.
So
this
allows
us
to
hire
contractors
professional
service
providers
to
step
in
and
start
providing
the
services
directly.
I
It
gives
us
six
months
to
to
plan
both
what
is
the
next
step
in
terms
of
location,
but
also
we
don't
know
what
our
programming
needs
are
going
to
be,
because
the
pandemic
has
really
thrown
a
lot
of
what
we
understood
to
be
the
reality
of
what
it's
like
to
be
homeless
in
santa
fe
kind
of
up
in
the
air,
and
we
may
have
many
many
more
people
who
are
homeless.
So
I
think
it
gives
us
a
chance
to
kind
of
see
how
things
start
to
play
out
see.
I
Let's
get
people
hooked
up
with
with
permanent
supportive
housing.
You
know,
and
so
it's
a
little
hard
to
know
right
now
what
what
it's
going
to
end
up
looking
like
in
six
months,
but
at
least
with
the
cares
funding.
We
can
continue
to
provide
the
service,
we're
not
turning
anybody
out
on
the
streets
and
we
can
figure
out
what
the
the
most
sort
of
flexible
long-term
plan
is
going
to
look
like.
H
Okay,
thank
you
that
that's
very
helpful
in
hearing
you
know
how
that
does
lead
to
us
having
a
little
bit
more
nimbleness
during
this
process
with
this
contract.
What
is
the
timeline
for
transitioning
city
staff?
Out
of
running
this
into
having
you
know,
professional
staff
who
who
are
trained
in
this
field,
be
running
me
running
the
shelter.
I
Jared
beta
councillor
comes
at
sanchez,
we
will
be
hiring.
The
jobs
have
been
posted,
so
we
will
be
hiring
as
soon
as
possible
and
as
as
soon
as
those
those
contractors
are
put
under
contract.
I
So
hopefully
now
I
say
that
I
also
have
to
clear
a
few
hud
hurdles
which
hud
has
greatly
streamlined
that
process,
but
it
is
hud,
so
we
have
to
kind
of
tiptoe
through
it
without
making
any
huge
promises.
But
I
do
expect
within
a
few
short
weeks.
We
would
have
that
done.
H
That's
wonderful
to
hear
thank
you
so
much.
I
do
not
have
any
further
questions
at
this
time.
Thank
you.
F
I
Chair
beta
council
lindell,
we
did
not
take
too
long
to
consider
other
projects
because
the
nature
of
the
shelter
and
what
it's
doing
fits
in
almost
exactly
to
how
the
federal
government,
specifically
in
this
case,
hud
since
the
entitlement
funds
come
from
hud,
wanted
to
see
the
funds
used.
So
there
was
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
the
criteria
that
was
set
out
in
in
the
guidance
for
using
the
funds
really
focused
on
the
health
services
and
mitigating
the
health
impacts
and
as
an
organization.
I
We
don't
do
a
lot
of
that,
and
so,
but
all
of
a
sudden
we
actually
were
doing
quite
a
bit
of
that
through
the
shelter.
So
it
just
it
fit
very,
very
neatly:
we
get
the
funds
are
entitled
to
us,
so
we
don't
have
to
compete
for
them
or
fill
out
an
application.
I
We
knew
first
of
all
that
takes
a
while,
but
we
also
knew
that
all
of
our
our
shelter
providers
and
the
the
organizations
who
worked
the
most
with
homeless
people
were
so
maxed
out
and
really
had
no
capacity
to
create
any
additional
programming,
and
they
were
quite
frantic
to
figure
out
a
way
to
try
to
keep
the
population
density
at
their
shelters
at
a
level
where
they
could
observe
some
kind
of
social
distancing
and
feel
like
they
could
keep
everyone
safe.
I
So
we
just
we
talked
about
it,
but
we
just
thought
you
know
it's
we're
already
doing
it.
This
also
takes
some
some
of
the
pressure
off
the
city
budget
and
it
just
it
felt
like
a
very
natural
fit.
We
knew
we
could
hit
the
ground
running
and
there
wouldn't
be
any
kind
of
stumbles
while
you
figure
out
like
oh,
how
is
this
new
program
going
to
work.
F
Okay,
thank
you.
Are
there
other
groups
that
are
contributing
to
this?
Financially,
I
mean
the
county
saint
christus.
Are
there
other
people
that
are
willing
to?
I
think
I
forget
the
exact
number
that
we're
taking
on
over
three
hundred
thousand.
Are
there
other
groups
that
are
willing
to
come
in
and
pick
up
some
of
that.
I
Jared
baytech
councillor
lindell-
this
has
been
very
much
of
a
regional
effort
in
terms
of
coordinating
health
care
and
services
to
homeless
people
generally
they're,
it's
hard
to
coordinate
services
for
this
population
because,
by
their
very
nature,
they're
not
they're,
not
in
stationary
they.
They
move
around
a
lot
which
has
been
some
of
the
challenges
with
built
for
xero.
So
I
we've
taken
the
first
step,
I
believe
now
I
I
if
kira
were
here
she
may
be
able
to-
and
I
can.
I
I
can
ask
her
and
get
back
to
you,
but
I
believe
the
county
was
interested
in
also
supporting
the
process.
I
think
once
we
come
up
with
more
of
a
permanent
framework
for
this
moving
forward.
We
know
that
the
that
christus
has
been
interested
in
supporting
through
money
as
well
as
the
county
and
I'll
find
out
exactly
because
I
haven't
actually
been
part
of
those
conversations,
but
I
think
what's
really
powerful
about
this.
Is
that
we're
making
a
case
for
the
for
this
being
able
to
actually
be
quite
effective?
F
F
We
haven't
seen
the
budget
for
next
year.
It's
just
it's
not
that.
I
don't
think
that
we
have
to
do
this.
I
think
we
do,
but
it's
it's
a
really
really
big
ask
of
this
council
to
fund
a
new
program
when
we're
facing
the
kind
of
deficit
that
we
are
just
trying
to
see.
F
If
we
can't
round
up
some
other
people
that
would
like
to
take
some
of
this
burden
on,
I
mean
the
county
isn't
facing
anywhere
near
the
kind
of
deficit
that
we're
facing,
I'm
sure
that
there's
hospitals
and
other
health-
I
I
know
that
they've
laid
people
off,
but
we're
trying
to
find
our
way
through
this,
and
it's
it's
really
hard
for
me
to
fund
new
programs
knowing
that
we're
facing
furloughs
and
and
cutting
services
in
other
areas,
and
so
those
the
other
thing
is,
is
that
I
don't
really
think
that
the
city
has
any
capacity
over
time
to
be
running
a
homeless
shelter
and
we
certainly
won't
be
running
one
on
that
campus
over
a
long
period
of
time.
F
I
see
this
is
temporary
and
I
think
that
probably
part
of
this
should
be
some
conversation
about
what
our
exit
plan
from
running
a
shelter
is
and
who's
going
to
step
in
and
where's
that
funding
going
to
come
from.
And
how
do
we
do
that?
I
mean
it's.
F
It's
just
kind
of
one,
more
conundrum
that
we're
faced
with,
and
I
don't
think
anybody
doesn't
feel
like
we
have
to
do
it,
but
we
we
need
to
know
really
how
far
it
goes,
how
long
it
goes
and
how
much
over
the
course
of
the
next
12
months
we're
going
to
be
asked
to
pay
for
this.
So
those
are
my
thoughts
and
my
concerns.
F
I
don't
expect
an
answer
to
them.
It's
just.
I
Beta,
if
I
may
make
one
more
comment
in
response
to
that
counselor
lindell-
that
is
one
of
the
reasons
why
the
coalition
and
homelessness
will
be
the
fiscal
agent,
because
the
coalition
is
the
it's
the
fiscal
agent
for
all
of
the
continuum
of
care
funds
from
hud.
So
it
has.
I
It
coordinates
that
whole
network
of
service
providers,
so
the
idea
was
not
only
would
they
be
able
to
manage
the
operations
right
now
with
the
city's
input,
but
at
least
take
that
burden
off
off
of
city
staff,
but
they
would
also
be
able
to
design
a
longer
term
financial
plan
for
funding
funding
the
operations
through
the
existing
hud
funds.
But
I
think
to
your
point-
and
I
do
want
to
I-
I
think
that
that's
that's
really
important.
B
J
C
B
A
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
We
brought
this
item
before
public
works
committee
and
they
they
approved
it.
It's
re-prioritizing
some
of
our
projects
in
order
to
free
up
some
money
for
capitalizable
operating
expenses.
A
With
this
we've
been
able
to
free
up
just
over
seven
million
dollars
that
can
again
be
utilized
for
capitalizable
operating
expenses.
One
other
thing
this
reprioritization
does
is
it
moves
moves.
250,
000
of
general
obligation
bond
money
from
swan
park
to
the
mrc
soccer
valley.
I
explained
exactly
what's
entailed
in
that
at
public
works
committee
as
well
as
in
my
memo,
I'd
be
more
than
happy
to
elaborate
on
it.
If
anyone
has
any
questions
regarding
any
of
those
issues,.
E
You,
mr
chair,
I
would
like
some
more
information
since
I'm
not
on
public
works,
and
I
did
read
the
memo.
But
I
was
wanting
to
see
if
john,
you
could
explain
what
specifically
in
terms
of
funds
from
swan
park
was
taken
like
can,
if
you
could
describe,
maybe
the
amenities
that
will
be
put
on
hold
and
why
we
decided
to
move
them
over
to
the
mrc
soccer
valley,
funding
or
the
allocation
of
that,
especially
because
we
were
able
to
get
state
funding
for
that
and
also
some
of
our
own
funding
sources.
A
Oh
yes,
I'd
be
more
than
happy
to
the
original
599
thousand
dollars
allocated
for
swan
park
was
going
to
be
utilized
only
for
design
of
quite
a
bit
of
infrastructure.
It
wasn't
going
to
be
enough
money
to
do
any
of
the
construction.
The
design
included
things
that
were
taken
out.
The
big
ticket
items
that
were
taken
out
was
a
road
extension
from
south
meadows.
A
Excuse
me
from
south
brothers
from
priscilla
seoul
west,
a
community
lawn
area,
water,
playground,
restrooms
in
a
concession
building,
tennis,
slash,
pickleball
courts,
bmx
punk
track
things
of
that
nature.
So
again,
these
are
all
big
ticket
items
that
would
would
have
required
a
lot
more
capital
to
realize
their
construction,
so
toning,
this
project
down
and
amending
the
its
project
budget
down
to
roughly
apologize.
I
don't
have
this
on
top
of
my
head,
350,
000,
plus
or
minus.
A
What
that's
going
to
allow
us
to
do
is
design
and
control
construct
some
certain
improvements,
those
improvements.
A
Include
give
me
one
second,
please
so:
water
tank
plant
screening
horseshoe
pits
the
bmx
pump
track
dog
park.
Hiker
biker
trail
head,
slash,
park,
overlook
and
then
we're
also
going
to
look
to
secure
the
perimeter
with
a
concrete
wall
barrier
that
temporary
construction
wall
barrier
we've
tried
some
fencing,
I
believe,
and
maybe
even
some
cable
wall
barrier
and
we've
had
a
hard
time
keeping
atvs
out
of
the
park
area.
So
we
added
this
to
the
scope
and
again
that'd
be
wall
there.
E
Saw
it.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
the
clarity.
I
I
guess
now,
I'm
wondering
if
we're
moving
it
over
to
mrc
soccer
valley.
What
is
that
going
towards
specifically
that
we
hadn't,
budgeted
or
hadn't
I
mean?
I
know
the
ticket
price
for
mrc
is
pretty
large.
So
what
are
the
things
that
that
250
000
will
go
towards
for
mrc
soccer
valley.
A
You
are
correct:
the
entire
scope
for
soccer
valley
is
quite
large,
and
even
the
1.25
that
we
have
allocated
500,
000,
rs,
500
thousand
county
and
250
of
legislative
funds
was
not
enough
to
get
a
whole
lot
done.
So
we're
gonna
tone
down
that
scope
to
try
to
do
a
few
key
items
and
then
we'll
have
that
extra
250
thousand
000
that
we're
pulling
from
swan
park
available
in
case.
We
need
it
to
to
complete
these
items.
A
That
being
said,
once
we
get
into
the
design,
we
may
have
to
reduce
how
many
of
the
fields
that
we
improve,
and
so
you
know
improving,
maybe
three
or
four
fields.
It
depends
depending
on
what
the
costs
come
in
at
I
know
a
public
works
committee,
a
counselor
now
had
questions
about
the
gis
assessment.
I
did
verify
with
jen
romero,
as
well
as
sam
burnett
who's.
The
current
project
manager
that
that
had
had
not
been
done.
A
What
had
done
been
done
in
the
past
was
an
irrigation
rehab
back
in
2008,
but
according
to
them
a
gis
assessment
had
not
been
done
at
that
time.
E
Thank
you,
mr
romero,
remind
me
mary
how
much
came
from
I
couldn't
find
it
on
here,
but
how
much
came
from
for
for
mrc
from
our
general
grt.
E
I
don't
have
that
in
front
of
me.
Let
me
look
it
up.
Maybe
john
has
a
I
don't
know.
I
was
trying
to
remember
the
breakdown
of
like
how
much
we
each
contributed
and
how
much
came
from
the
legislature
just
so
I
can
put
it
to
the
forefront
of
my
brain
here.
B
F
B
Okay,
other
questions
from
the
committee.
B
Is
there
a
motion,
miss
mccoy.
D
Yes,
we
have
additional
information.
I'm
gonna
ask
brad
flitch
to
add
some
additional
information.
It's
regarding
our
capital
expenditures
for
recc.
D
G
Okay,
go
ahead.
Thank
you,
mary,
the
city
attorney's
office,
both
aaron
and
marcos,
martinez,
have
been
in
mediation
with
the
county
over
the
recc
issues.
You
know
again:
two
million
of
the
18
grt
bond
was
allocated
to
the
radio
project
there's
also
another
project
that's
been
going
on.
That
was
not
included
in
part
of
the
grt
bond
and
that's
the
computer-aided
dispatch,
roughly
a
million
plus
dollar
project
that
they
are
installing
at
the
recc
as
well,
and
so
in
our
in
their
mediation
with
the
county.
G
They
had
called
and
said.
Well,
where
would
we
fund
this
from
and
with
the
closure
of
the
fire
station?
You
know
and
it
being
removed
from
this
grt
issue,
we'd
like
to
see
if
there
was
some
room
to
allocate.
G
You
know
the
425
000
to
the
cad
system
and
there's
also
another
outstanding
issue,
we're
trying
to
clarify
that
at
most
would
be
a
hundred
and
thirty
one
thousand
that
we
would
want
allocated
to
the
recc
out
of
the
grt
bond,
and
this
is
all
new.
This
just
happened
friday,
so
we'd
like
to
bring
it
to
the
finance
committee.
John,
I
don't
know
if
you
need
like
sort
of
a
friendly
amendment
to
your
memo,
but
we
would
like
to
see
if
the
finance
committee
would
consider,
including
those
two
allocations
in
this
legislation.
D
Be
more
than
on
that
point,
we'd
be
more
than
happy
to
provide
additional
itemized
information
to
the
committee
as
a
follow-up
from
that,
as
brad
mentioned,
this
is
happening
almost
in
real
time.
The
mediation,
I
believe
was
on
friday,
so
we'd
be
more
than
happy
to
answer
questions
and
provide
any
backup
on
those
two
amounts
that
brad
mentioned.
B
Well,
what
I
I
want
to
show
respect
to
our
public
works
committee
and
our
chairman
of
public
works,
and
so
I
would
prefer
that
we
postpone
this.
Then
we
take
it
there
first,
so
that
they
could
act
on
it,
because
the
chairman
did
a
really
good
job
in
moving
this
along
with
the
committee,
and
then
we
thought
it
was
coming
to
us
as
kind
of
a
final
blessing
from
finance.
So
I
def
I
don't.
B
I
don't
want
to
act
on
it
until
it
goes
over
there
and
let
john
do
the
work
with
the
committee
and
then
then
it
can
be
brought
back
to
us,
but
I
don't
know
what
the
feeling
of
the
rest
of
the
committee
members
is
councilwoman
romero.
We
haven't
heard
from
you
this
evening.
Do
you
have
a
thought
on
this.
J
I
I
would
tend
to
agree
with
you
unless
this
is
time
sensitive,
which
I
don't
think
I
mean
it's.
Obviously
we
need
to
be
moving
along
here
yeah,
but
I
would
also
like
to
see
the
additional
information
that
mary
is
talking
about.
B
They
they
public
works
meets
next
monday,
I
believe,
and
then
it
could
come
back
to
us.
Would
that
be?
Would
that
be
fine,
mary,
that's,
okay,.
D
A
B
Okay
is,
can
I
have
a
motion
then,
to
postpone
item
c
move
to
postpone
okay,
their
second.
B
C
Thank
you
just
not
sure.
Okay,
councillor
ramana
beta,
yes,
councillor,
signee
lindell,
yes,
councillor,
carol
romero
worth
yes
councillor,
rene,
yes,
counselor,
jamie
cassette,
sanchez.
B
Yes,
promotion
passes.
Okay,
thank
you.
That
brings
us
to
item
nine
matters
from
staff.
Miss
mccoy,
mr
chairman.
No
matters
from
staff
at
this
point.
Okay,
let's
go
to
matters
from
the
committee.
Do
any
of
the
committee
members
have
anything.
E
Councilwoman
villarreal.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
was
wondering
if
staff
could
give
us
a
time
frame
as
to
when
we'll
be
able
to
see
some
of
those
detailed
breakdown
items
that
we
asked
about
in
the
last
meeting
as
it
related
to
some
of
the
budget
deficit
gaps,
we're
trying
to
fill
and
what
we're
doing
to
support
that,
specifically
the
hiring
freezes
and
what
positions
they
were
and
what
that
calculated
to.
D
Mr
chairman
counselor
via
rail.
Yes,
we
can
get
you
that
information.
There's
one
caveat
that
that
is
a
point
in
time,
so
we've
had
several
retirements
and
we
are
expecting
more
retirements
or
some
level
of
attrition
as
we
move
forward.
So
the
list
that
we
give
you
will
be
a
point
in
time
as
of
now
in
june,
and
then
we'll
bring
you
an
updated
list
in
july
for
the
budget
deliberations.
E
Great
okay
and
the
other
thing
I
had
was,
I
don't
know
how
you
would
be
able
to
show
this
this
information
to
us,
but-
and
I
guess
it
will
happen
in
the
budget
hearings.
But
I
guess
I
just
want
to
flag
we're
asking
departments
to
do
42
percent
reductions
across
the
board,
with
the
exception
of
of.
D
Counselor,
the
reductions
from
the
fy
20
budget
levels
that
are
provided
to
the
department
directors
for
an
fy21
revised
budget
are
actually
dependent
on
the
funding
source.
So
it's
not
a
42
across
the
board
for
everyone.
It
is.
The
reductions
vary
from
as
little
as
a
zero
to
as
high
as
in
the
brad.
Do
you
recall,
with
the
highest
percentage?
D
Because
of
the
lodgers
tax,
so
if
the
lodgers
tax
revenue
forecast
is
going
to
decline,.
D
B
E
G
The
decline
in
larger
tax
was
the
largest
decline
of
all
of
our
revenue
sources,
so
both
tourism
and
arts
and
culture
are
directly
funded
by
largest
tax
and
larger
tax
exclusively.
E
G
So
some
departments
they
ended
up
with
blended
rates
so
like
say,
utilities,
environmental
services,
the
assumption
was
a
33
decline
in
grt,
and
so
they
get
one
increment
of
grt
but
their
fee
r
and
that's
you
know:
2.3
million
in
fy
20
versus
their
fee
income,
which
had
a
a
decline
of
forecasted
decline
of
of
25,
and
so
when
you
think
about
it
in
a
weighted
average.
If
30
of
their
revenues
is
grt-
and
you
know,
70
of
their
revenues
are
are
fees.
E
Is
there
a
way
to
summarize
that
so
that
we
have
an
understanding
and
the
the
public
has
an
understanding
of
departments,
the
funding
sources,
even
though
they're
sometimes
blended,
and
why
a
percentage
was
asked
of
that
department
for
reductions
so
that
we
can
see
across
the
board?
What
that
looks
like
I.
D
Want
to
add,
in
one
level
of
mr
chairman
and
counselor,
I
want
to
add
in
one
level
of
complexity,
we
are
about
to
go
into
a
special
session
on
thursday,
with
potential
additional
state
funding
that
would
be
coming
to
the
table
for
the
for
local
governments.
In
addition,
we,
the
100
million
dollar
revenue
decline,
did
not
in
was
just
pure
revenue.
D
What
what
our
forecast
is
for
the
12
months
of
fy21,
that
does
not
the
calculation
for
what
we
will
use
from
our
cash
reserves
is
not
factored
into
that
100
million
dollar
number.
D
So
right
now,
if
we
were
to
give
you
those
estimates
which
we
could
do,
it
would
be
a
preliminary
estimate
based
on
100
million
revenue
decline.
But
there
are
these
outstanding
factors.
On
the
revenue
side,
we've
always
talked
about
expenditure
levers
and
revenue
lossers,
so
that
those
percentage
declines
do
not
factor
in
any
of
the
additional
cash
reserves
that
we
could
budget
from
our
general
fund
reserve
or
from
the
utility
fund
or
any
of
the
additional
potential
state
funding.
That
might
come
our
way
as
a
result
of
the
special
session.
B
We
don't
want
to
go
into
the
budget
hearings,
not
having
an
idea
of
what
went
into
the
thinking
of
it
and
like
like
blind
in
a
sense,
so
the
more
information
you
could
prep
us
with
and
provide
us
with
between
now
and
then
I
think,
the
easier
and
the
smoother
our
our
process
is
going
to
go
as
a
finance
committee,
because
yeah
she's
right
we're
going
to
see
one
day,
one
one
department
cut
10
percent
and
then
another
one
that
cut
50
and
then
we're
going
to
be
like
oh,
what
the
heck's
going
on,
and
I
don't
want
to
spend
a
lot
of
time
during
those
budget
hearings
dealing
with
that
I'd
rather
get
that
stuff
done
ahead
of
time.
B
So
thank
you,
councilwoman
brielle,
for
asking
these
questions
and
I
would
encourage
the
other
committee
members.
Whatever
information
we
want
ahead
of
time,
we
need
to
start
asking
for
it
so
that
I
guess
to
give
it
a
good
example.
Mary.
We
want
to
know
the
rules
of
the
game
before
we
start,
we
sit
down
and
start
playing
the
game.
You
know
what
I
mean.
E
Mr
chairman,
and
when
we
say
rules
of
the
game,
they're
really
like
some
of
them
are
mandated
by
the
state
and
we
can't
change
them
unless
something
changes
at
the
state
which
I
totally
understand.
However,
there
are
things
that
seem
to
ebb
and
flow
based
on
values,
and
so
I'm
just
going
to
leave
it
at
that.
E
I
think
there
may
be
some
ways
to
look
at
the
bigger
picture
like
holistically,
like
how
we're
thinking
into
the
future
of
what
we
want
to
support,
given
that
we
have
this
budget
deficit
and
what
are
the
things
that
we
really
want
to
lift
up.
That
will
support
communities
that
are
already
marginalized,
but
possibly
could
be
even
more
more
vulnerable
as
we
look
into
the
recovery
recovery
or
you
know
in
the
pandemic
phase
that
we're
in.
So
I
guess
I'm
just
wanting
to
get
a.
E
A
more
holistic
picture
and
it
would
help
the
public
too,
because
I
don't
think
it's
not
general
knowledge
that
we
have
these
different.
We
have
enterprise
funds
and
what
that
means
and
that
we
draw
from
that
and
that
there's
certain
departments
that
depend
on
that
revenue
source.
So
I
think
it's
just.
We
need
to
simplify
it
on
that
level
until
we
start
getting
into
the
granular
and
then
and
then,
when
we
get
into
budget
hearings,
I
think
it
would
be
helpful.
F
Councilwoman
lindell,
thank
you,
chair.
Thank
you,
counselor
via
real.
I
think
that
all
of
us
have
had
many
emails
and
phone
calls
on
the
police
budget,
and
people
are
very
interested
that
we
take
a
look
at
that
and
they
have
demands
that.
We
take
a
look
at
that
and
I
think
that
any
information
that
we
can
get
as
counselor
asked
prior
to
at
starting
the
actual
hearing,
so
that
we
can
have
some
input
on
it.
F
I
think
it's
really
important
because
time's,
not
our
friend
in
these
things
ever
and
you
know,
I
don't
think
we
this
year
in
particular,
I
don't
think
we
can
be
rushed
through
this.
We
need
to
really
vet
some
of
these
things
and
I'm
just
encouraging
that
we
get
information
sooner
than
later
to
start
having
discussions
and
taking
a
look
at
where
things
could
go,
because
we've
all
had
a
tremendous
amount
of
communication
from
constituents
and
I
suspect
I've
gotten
the
same
communications
that
others
have
had.
F
People
have
been
pretty
clear
about
their
desires,
so
I
I
I
thought
that
really
it
shouldn't
go
without
being
said
that
that's
that's
what
we're
hearing
so.
Thank
you.
Chair.
B
Okay,
anything
else
from
the
committee.
B
Okay,
so
then,
with
that
we
are
adjourned.
Thank
you.