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A
Okay,
thank
you
at
five
o'clock
on
the
dot
I'm
calling
to
order
the
august
first
meeting
of
the
finance
committee
and
if
I
could
get
a
roll
call,
please
certainly.
C
B
A
Thank
you
from
there
we
go
to
approval
of
the
agenda.
Are
there
changes
from
staff
on
the
agenda.
A
Changes
from
the
committee
is
there
a
motion
to
approve.
We
have
a
motion,
a
second
to
approve
the
agenda,
all
those
in
favor
aye.
Anybody
opposed
that
motion
passes
from
here.
We
go
to
approval
of
the
consent
agenda.
Are
there
items
the
committee?
Well,
first,
let's
see,
are
there
changes
to
the
consent
agenda
from
staff.
A
A
E
n
g,
okay,
council
river.
A
Okay,
councilwoman
cassette
ass,
please
counselor,
linda.
A
Is
there
a
motion
to
approve
the
consent
agenda,
as
amended
to
approve,
is
amended
all
those
in
favor?
I
anybody
opposed
that
motion
for
approval
of
the
consent
agenda,
as
amended
passes
now
we're
on
to
finance
committee
minute
minutes
of
july
18th.
Are
there
changes
from
staff
to
those
minutes?
No
changes,
madam
chair,
any
from
the
committee,
and,
if
not,
is
there
a
motion.
A
Motion
a
second
to
approve
the
july
18th
minutes
of
the
finance
committee,
all
those
in
favor
aye.
Anybody
opposed
that
motion
passes.
We
are
back
we're
down
to
presentations
from
ricky
dejarano.
Our
interim
assistant
finance
director
on
the
fy
21
audit
update,
welcome.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair
members
of
the
committee.
The
selection
for
the
auditor
has
been
made
and
the
recommendation
and
the
contract
are
in
place
and
they
have
been
submitted
to
our
legal
office
for
review
and
approval
from
there
once
it's
reviewed
and
approved
by
our
legal
department,
then
it
goes
to
the
state
auditor
for
approval.
Before
signatures
can
begin,
once
it's
released
from
the
by
the
office
of
the
state
auditor,
then
we
can
collect
signatures
and
then
start
discussing
commencement
of
the
audit
with
the
selected
vendor.
A
D
D
Then
a
final
item,
I'm
happy
to
report
that
we
are
closing
out
fiscal
year
22,
which
is
on
time.
It's
considered
an
on-time
closeout.
We're
excited
about
that.
We've
not
had
an
on-time
closeout
since
we
implemented.
G
D
The
other
thing
we're
doing
this
week
almost
simultaneously,
but
it
just
fell.
The
timing
just
felt
such
that
we're
starting
to
close
month
by
month
the
importance
of
closing
month
by
month
is
so
that
things
don't
pile
up
at
year.
End.
That's
one
practical
reason.
The
more
important
reason
is
that
we
intend
to
start
generating
some
form
of
interim
financial
statements
for
this
committee
for
discussion
by
fund
by
program.
We've
got
to
work
that,
through
with
the
goal
of
getting
to
having
interim
kafir
statements
throughout
various
times
of
the
year
and.
A
A
D
D
A
All
right
with
that,
we
move
on
to
consent,
counselor
rivera.
I
believe
you
pulled
item
a.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
mr
williams.
I
just
I'm
sure
we
asked
this
when
it
was
first
approved,
but
just
want
to
make
sure
what
is
the
dynamic
entry
equipment?
What
does
that
entail
and
where
does
it
come
from.
G
F
F
F
G
E
D
G
E
Villarreal,
thank
you.
Amanda
chair.
I
was
going
to
pull
this
at
quality
of
life
because
it
didn't
really.
I
didn't,
have
financial
questions,
but
since
we're
here
we
might
as
well
just
ask
about
that
because
I
did.
I
was
trying
to
figure
out
what
some
of
these
were
same
questions
as
council
reveta,
but
I
couldn't
remember
what
the
long
range
acoustic
device
was.
G
H
G
G
E
This
equipment
was
it's
funneled
through
your
office
because
of
the
nature
of
the
grant,
even
though
it
says
it's
for
these
are
grants
for
federal
emergency
management
or
federal
preparedness.
I
guess.
G
E
A
You
have
a
second
motion,
a
second
to
approve
item,
a
all
those
in
favor
aye
aye.
Anybody
opposed.
A
So
we
have
one
abstention
and
no
one
against
madame.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
That
item
passes
okay,
abcde.
We
are
on
to
catch.
My
computer
up
here
request
for
approval
of
a
professional
services
agreement
in
the
amount
of
three
million.
Ninety
six
thousand
dollars,
excluding
nmr
nmgrt
for
accounting
services,
year-end
close
and
audit
preparation
for
one
year
with
the
option
to
renew
up
to
four
years
pursuant
to
rfp
22-47,
slash,
p
and.
A
B
A
There
was
a
difference
from
the
committee
to
who
was
in
front
of
us,
but
that's
okay
and
councilwoman
villarreal.
I
believe
you
pulled
this
item.
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Just
a
few
questions
about
the
the
scope,
so
there's
they're
all
interconnected,
but
you
know
it's
accounting,
services,
audit
preparation
and
year-end
clothes
which
are
all
connected
to
each
other
correct,
but
is
that
one
contract
for
different
jobs
or
is
it
can
you
expound
upon
that
like?
Are
they
going
to
have
multiple
contracts?
This
is
one
contract
to
do
a
few
different
requirements.
B
B
We
don't
anticipate
this
going
for
a
full
year,
but
the
contract
was
awarded
based
on
the
amount
that
was
submitted,
so
the
amount
which
I
can
share
with
you
is,
you
know
as
soon
as
we
get
further
in
this
process
was
done
in
a
different
calculation,
a
different
type
of
scoring,
and
it
was
not
the
highest
score
with
the
amount
they
weren't
given
the
highest
score
in
the
amount
they
were
given
the
highest
score
in
the
technical
part
of
the
rfp,
and
I
can
also
let
you
know
that
there
were
six
proposers.
B
Correct
until
we
go
before
governing
body,
then
we
can
go
ahead
and
release
the
name
of
the
contractor.
E
Okay,
and
is
this
contractor
already
doing,
contract
work
for
us
no
map,
no
website,
okay
and
then
the
other
question
was
so.
We
have
multiple
contracts
out,
and
so
I'm
just
curious.
If,
when
we
add
this
contract
to
our
financial
team,
does
that
mean
we
will
be
reducing
the
other
number
or
the
number
of
contracts
that
we
have
out
out
there
for
other
audit
related
jobs
or
contracts?
We.
B
D
D
G
D
Contractor
now
they
I
I
don't
believe
it
just
depends
on
the
contractor,
but
sometimes
they
may
contract
with
individuals
to
help
them
with
services
to
subcontractors,
so
that,
for
example,
there
may
be
somebody
it's
readily
available
to
perform
the
work
for
them,
but
that
will
be
between
the
contractor
and
that
individual,
not
not
the
city.
Okay,.
E
That
makes
sense,
I
think,
that's
it.
B
Madam
chair
counselor
lindell
due
to
the
rfp
process,
we
were
not
very
clear
on
how
we
move
forward
with
that,
because
we
go
through
a
couple
of
committees
prior
to
governing
body
approval
and
realistically
we
should
not
be
releasing
the
contractor's
name
until
final
approval
and
signature.
C
C
C
B
C
I'd
like
to
know
that
we'll
do
I,
I
have
to
be
tell
you
that
it
is
very,
very,
very
hard
for
me
to
approve
12
million
dollars
worth
of
contracting
at
one
sitting,
I'm
not
comfortable
with
it,
I'm
not
comfortable
with
I.
I
don't
understand
how
we
need
three
million
dollars,
but
I
wouldn't
understand
that
unless
I
knew
the
cost
of
the
combined
other
five
contracts,
I
am.
C
I
am
a
little
horrified
that
this
contract
is.
This
contractor
is
asking
us
for
ten
thousand
dollars
a
day.
In
addition,
they're
asking
for
thirty
thousand
dollars
a
month
in
travel,
which
seems
absolutely
implausible
to
me.
I
I'm.
I
don't
know
that
I'll
ever
be
comfortable
with
that.
C
C
G
C
Maybe
I
mean
december.
C
I
mean,
I
know,
there's
holidays
but
from
december
to
the
end,
we're
august.
So
that's
eight
months
really,
I
don't
know
if
they
work
in
december
or
any
of
december
or
not.
But
I
think
that
this
is
a
big
ask
to
have
it
go
on
for
four
years
and
also
think
that
30
000
a
month
in
travel
money
is,
I
don't
think,
that's
doable
for
me.
C
B
B
B
We
can
only
pay
what
our
available
budget
is.
That
is
their
proposal,
so
we
accepted
their
proposal
in
the
amount
of
the
three
million
based
on
a
year
by
year
basis,
so
we're
not
committed
to
a
four-year
contract
at
12
million
if
our
needs
are
met
within
the
next
six
months
and
we
don't
use
them
at
40
hours
per
week,
as
indicated,
that's
part
of
the
amount
they
proposed
40
hours
a
week,
the
multiple
staff
with
different
hourly
rates.
B
C
Instead
of
going
with
the
maximum
amount
of
3
million,
I
would
rather
go
with
a
smaller
amount
and
then,
if
we
need
to
come
back
and
add
more
on
to
that,
this
is
this
is
to
me
kind
of
handing
the
checkbook
over
to
an
auditing
company
saying.
Well,
you
know
you
got
this
many
hours.
You
can
bill
us
for,
and
I
looked
at
some
of
those
hourly
rates
and
they're
not
inexpensive.
C
C
I'm
just
a
little
gun-shy
with
them
in
an
hour
of
need.
They
left
the
building
and
I
haven't
forgotten
that
so
that's
where
I
am
with
this.
Thank
you.
A
H
So
with
other
rfps,
the
governing
body
has
been
able
to
get
copies
of
the
different
proposals.
I've
similar
to
council
lindell,
given
who
the
contractor
is
and
that
they
walked
out
potentially
without
cause
that
was
never
established.
D
D
Months
late,
the
wave
firm
scheduled
now
I
was
not
part
of
the
selection
committee
and
I
don't
as
they
say
I
don't
have
a
dog
in
this
fight.
I
just
need
a
contractor
to
help
because
we
don't
have
the
accounting
staff,
but
there
was
cause,
and
we
have
to
own
that
we
were
in
no
way
ready.
The
coordination
was
at
best
substandard
on
our
side.
D
The
reconciliation
were
not
reconciled
that
were
presented
there.
Just
was
not
enough
time
for
me
to
get
up
to
speed
and
see
that
we
weren't
giving
adequate
information.
I
own
that,
but
we
can't
say
that
they
pulled
out
or
walked
out
at
the
last
hour
for
no
reason.
The
last
hour
was
december
15th
when
the
audit
was
due.
D
G
F
F
E
D
Not
until
it's
awarded,
but
I
I
it's
difficult
to
explain,
but
they
didn't
walk
out
for
no
reason
all
our
all.
Our
deliverables
were
due,
probably
three
months
before,
let's
say
beginning
at
least
in
october,
and
the
audit
should
have
been
issued
by
december
15
and
and
we
just
failed
and
then
we
had
another
deadline
of
march
15
and
and
we
didn't
hit
that
since
then,
we've
been
hitting
all
our
timelines
and
this
part
should
go
smoother
for
22..
D
F
D
B
E
B
B
H
H
D
Madam
chair
counselor,
without
going
too
far
on
the
limb,
because
we
don't
know
we.
D
H
D
Madam
chair
counselor
cassette
I'd
have
to
go
back
and
review
each
of
the
five
contractors
billings,
but
the
the
only
firm
that
was
actually
working
consistently
during
that
time
was
redw.
D
The
other
five
were
kind
of
on
off,
so
it
wasn't
straight
seven
months
and
the
only
one
left
currently
is
redw
and
that's
sporadically
as
as
we're
needing,
for
example,
when
the
state
auditor
requested
additional
information
and
whatnot,
we
needed
that
help
in
pulling
the
information
from
their
system.
H
B
Highest
point
madam
chair
councilwoman,
cassette
in
the
maximum
scores
which
I
can
share
with
you.
I
will
go
ahead
and
upload
proposals
and
we
can
discuss
those
the
scoring
mechanism.
I
believe
that
it
would
be
in
the
best
interest
of
the
city
that
I
share
those
with
you
so
that
we
can
answer
those
questions
appropriately
out
of
the
meeting.
C
E
C
Are
those
we
don't
have
adequate
accounting
staff?
Do
we
have
vacancies.
D
We
do
have
a
patent
chair
counselor
in
dell,
yes,
but
I've
mentioned
before
there
is
a
huge
paucity
of
accountants
in
this
area,
we're
competing
with
lannell
to
the
north
and
we're
competing
with
the
state
right
here
and
then
we're
also
competing
with
every
other
higher
paying
entity
such
as
kirtland,
it's
difficult
I'll
give
you
an
example.
D
We
recently
made
offers
to
two
individuals
for
our
budget
area
that
were
the
top
candidates
and
before
they
accepted
the
offer,
they
withdrew
their
applications
because
they
were
hired
by
another
organization.
That's
how
quickly
it
goes
and
that's
on
the
budget
side.
On
the
accounting
side,
there
tends
to
be
a
higher
position.
D
G
F
D
D
E
D
D
But
there's
a
shortage
they're,
just
my
experiences
there
just
aren't
any
accounts
to
be
had
we're
finally
starting
to
get
inquiries
about
positions
that
we
have,
and
you
know
if
the
economy
tightens
up
a
little
bit
more
and
becomes
more
competitive
than
we
might
see
more
and
better
applicants.
D
Madam
chair
councillor,
lindell:
no,
because
we've
we're
we're
still
in
makeup
mode.
We
are
what
I
would
say
approximately
two
years
behind
in
catching
up
our
accounting
to
the
point
that
it's
at
a
steady
pace
once
things
like
cash,
reconciliations,
get
behind
grants,
type
reconciliations,
there's
a
lot
of
work
that
needs
to
be
done
and
catch
up
generally.
What
you
want
to
do
is
get
current
and
stay
current,
but
we
don't
have
that
luxury
because
we
still
have
reporting
to
the
federal
government
we
have
reporting
to
the
state.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
mr
bed,.
B
F
If
we
had
hired
or
if
we
had
these
current
contracts
for
an
entire
year,
you
think
that
would
be
about
three
million
as
well.
D
D
D
Know
the
firm-
and
it
is
large
enough-
it's
a
larger
firm
and
it
has
based
on
what
I
understand.
They
have
an
actual
consulting
group,
a
group
that
does
nothing
but
this
and
that
would
be
dedicated
to
this
job.
The
other
firms,
I
think
in
the
past
have
primarily
been
smaller
firms,
with
the
exception
of
rgw,
they
were
smaller
firms
and
we're
pulling
away
from
other
jobs,
for
example.
I
know
one
firm
in
particular
was
pulling
audit
staff
off
of
audits
to
help
us
and
then
they'd
go
back
and
then
they'd
come
back.
D
Madam
chair
councillor
rivera,
I
think
that's
what.
B
Adam
chair
councillor
rivera,
they
listed
the
title
and
position.
Doesn't
it's
not
for
four
people
it's
each
so
for,
for
example,
if
they
had
four
senior
consultants,
that's
how
much
the
cost
would
be
for
each
consultant.
So
they're
not
just
listing
four.
Those
are
four
of
the
positions.
We
would
need
to
fulfill
the
scope
of
work.
B
F
B
Madam
chair
counselor,
rivera
again,
this
is
the
for
over
300
out.
They.
They
predicted
this
at
300
300
hours
a
week
which
they
did
their
most,
that
they're
saying
they
would
be
dedicated
to
300
hours
a
week,
which
realistically
is
not
going
to
be
not
going
to
be
the
charging
of
300
hours
a
week.
We
went.
We
asked
for
them
to
give
us
their
most,
so
they're
saying
they
can
give
up.
They
can
give
300
hours
a
week,
so
we
asked
for
the
most
per
month.
F
Okay-
and
I
thought
when
they
had
pulled
out
just
a
couple
months
ago,
that
they
had
listed
one
of
their
reasons
for
doing
it
as
they
had
just
taken
on
the
albuquerque
auditing
contract.
D
F
D
Council
rivera
it's
it's
not
there.
G
D
These
aren't
going
to
be
people
that
generally
are
working
on
audit,
probably
they're,
experienced
in
audit,
but
they're
not
now
on
the
accounting
and
audit
prep
side
usually
to
go
into
the
consulting
piece
you
have
to
have
worked
in
audit
pretty
intensively.
Then
you
assist
organizations
in
getting
ready
for
audit
from
what
I
understand
again,
not
having
reviewed
all
the
proposals,
but
the
firm
is
large
enough.
Having
come
from
a
large
firm
myself,
these
are
different
departments
and
so
on
the
other.
E
D
F
B
In
the
contract
it
specifically
states,
they
must
give
us
a
30-day
notice
in
the
contract
that
you
refer,
that
you
re
sorry,
madam
chair
counselor,
rivera
in
the
contract
that
you
referenced
before,
which
was
not
the
city
contract,
did
not
have
state
that
language.
D
As
a
day,
it
gets
us
further
further
away
from
being
able
to
hit
december
15.
we're
getting
very
close
to
that
point
where
it's
possible,
we
may
not
hit
it.
D
So
that's
that's
the
delay
and,
as
I
mentioned
before,
I
was
not
on
the
selection
committee.
I
again
don't
have
a
dog
in
this
fight,
but
we've
got
to
get
a
firm
in
to
help
us
to
to
get
to
where
we
need
to
get.
A
D
Madam
chair
member
members
of
the
committee,
it's
I
I
would
say
it's
atypical,
because
most
organizations
have
kept
their
audits
up
and
whatnot
we're
just
in
a
situation
where
we're
at
least
two
years
behind
and
which
I've
done
before
most
recently.
My
previous
employment.
D
F
D
D
D
A
C
I
understand
we've
got
to
get
this
done,
but
I
am
not
comfortable
with
a
contract
that
is
the
maximum.
I
would
much
rather
have
a
contract
that
is
realistic
and
that
if
we
need
to
come
back
and
ask
for
more
money,
I'm
way
more
comfortable
with
that
than
granting
the
maximum
from
the
get-go.
That's
an
awful
lot
of
money.
D
C
Well,
I'd
be
infinitely
more
comfortable
at
1.5
than
three
plus.
We
have
to
put
eight
point
something
on
there
for
grt
and
I
just
don't
know
how
I
can
get
comfortable
with
30
000
a
month
of
travel
fee
for
the
course
of
this
contract.
So
thank
you
chair.
Thank
you.
Ricky.
B
Yes,
I'd
like
to
respond,
if
that's
all
right
sure
sorry,
madam
chair
counselor
lindell,
I'm
going
to
respond
to
that
and
we
will
take
the
contract
back
and
negotiate
for
six
months.
B
Negotiate
the
cost
in
hours,
because
what
we
propose
to
use
the
max
so
rather
than
come
to
you
with
the
max,
we
can
go
ahead
and
propose
how
many
staff,
because
it's
based
on
hourly
rates-
and
I
see
where
the
questions
are
coming
from-
I'm
sorry,
madam
chair,
counselor,
counselor,
lindell
I'll,
get
used
to
this.
I
promise
so
we
can
go
ahead
and
negotiate
pricing
so
that
the
contract
reads
for
six
months
and
then
come
back
again
in
another
six
months.
I
think
this
would
be
clarified
for
everybody.
B
If
we
did
that
and
that's
not
an
issue
they
are,
they
have
already
been
submitted
this
contract
and
signed,
and
so
has
our
legal,
but
we
can
still
negotiate
without
final
approval.
C
B
Correct
we
want
to
be
able
it's
okay,
madam.
D
B
We
want
to
go
ahead
and
get
this
done
as
soon
as
possible
reach
out
to
them
tomorrow.
We.
A
B
The
power
of
negotiation
in
the
procurement
office
and
we'll
work
with
legal
so
that
we
are
scheduled
for
the
next
meeting,
which
is
quality
of
life.
And
we
can
prepare
that
on
wednesday.
A
F
Yeah,
I'm
not
sure
I'm
we're
really
willing
to
to
take
that
chance.
You
know
being
late
on
another
audit,
I
think,
would
be
detrimental
to
us.
So
I
trust
that
the
three
million
is
a
max
and
I
trust
that
staff
will
make
sure
that
the
job's
getting
done
and
that,
if
it
costs
less
than
that,
that
you
know
we'll
be
we'll
be
in
a
good
position,
but
I'm
not
comfortable
taking
the
risk
of
delaying
another
audit.
H
Thank
you.
I
think
council
rivera
puts
very
clearly
our
rock
in
a
hard
place
predicament,
which
is
that
we
cannot
delay
another
audit.
I
see
that
this
contract
does
have
a
option
to
renew
for
up
to
four
years.
I
still
have
a
lot
of
concerns
of
using
this
contractor
and
feel
like
we're
kind
of
in
a
place
that
we
have
to
keep
using
them
right
now.
I
would
rather
not
continue
with
this
contractor
moving
forward,
though
I
understand
that
we.
H
Are
in
a
place
that
we
need
to
get
this
done
so,
were
you
guys
planning
on
going
back
out
for
rfp,
for
you
know,
moving
into
23
and
moving
forward,
or
are
we
going
to
keep
working
with
this
contractor.
D
Madam
chair
counselor
cassette
that's
an
unknown
if
they
can
perform
and
we
can
get
the
audit
in
on
time.
D
D
E
D
H
D
D
C
H
Well,
I
am
glad
to
see
there's
a
30
day,
but
I
think
council
of
air
is
right.
We
can't
do
things
that
risk
the
audit
being
late.
We
I
really
want
to
get
22
in
on
time.
I
know
we
all
do
so,
but
I
think
this
will
be
a
continued
conversation
moving
forward.
A
Mr
bejarano,
I
think
you
alluded
to
this
earlier
and
help
me,
keep
it
straight.
In
my
mind,
cla
pulled
out
of
doing
our
audit
or
doing
the
audit
prep.
D
A
And
I
think
that's
an
important
distinction
that
I
don't
know
may
help
and
if
I
may,
madam
clear.
D
We've
got
to
get
an
auditor
in
and
get
that
done,
because
a
lot
of
work
in
21
rolls
forward
into
22.
From
another
perspective,.
A
Okay
and
then
I
guess
one
other
question,
so
the
multi-year
nature
of
this
could
we
do.
We
have
the
power
to,
and
I
I
I
know
the
answer
to
this
is
no.
We
we
can't
just
make
it
a
one-year
contract
right,
because
that
would
be
a
change
to
the
contract.
You'd
still
have
to
pull
it
back
and
bring
it
forward.
D
Madam
chair
committee,
members,
I
believe
we
even
have
to
go
to
another
rfp
because
of
the.
G
A
Yeah
yeah,
okay,
that
doesn't
solve
the
problem
all
right,
any
other
questions,
counselor
rivera.
F
Just
done
that
point,
madam
chair,
it
is
a
four-year
contract,
but
we
have
the
option
to
renew
every
year.
F
A
A
Item
f
is
a
resolution
sponsored
by
myself
and
counselor
cassette
a
resolution
adopting
new
procedural
rules
for
city
council
standing
committees.
I
don't
think
we
have
our
staff
person
jessie
gian
with
us,
and
we
do
have
an
amendment
and
counselor
cassette.
You
pulled
this,
so
I
guess
I'll
just
turn
it
over
to
you
and
see
where
we
go.
Thank.
H
You,
madam
chair,
yes,
I
pulled
it
to
move
the
amendment.
H
However,
there's
been
an
amendment
to
our
amendment
and
I
don't
know
if
we
have
anybody
that
can
pull
it
up
on
the
screen
so
that
we
can
show
the
written
version
of
it.
I
can
provide
some
background.
So
if
you
look
at
the
amendment
in
the
packet
it
it
has
to
do
with
the
development
of
the
agendas
for
committees.
There
is
a
red
line
version
of
this
that
I
think,
is.
A
A
H
Some
background,
all
right,
so
we
were
trying
to
to
address
the
issue
that
had
occurred
when
sometimes
because
we
now
attach
amendments
in
committee.
There
did
occur
recently
in
governing
body
where
we
passed
something
on
consent
and
the
amendment
had
not
been
attached,
and
so
it
was
a
pass
on
governing
body
without
the
amendment
being
moved.
H
This
aims
to
address
that
issue
where,
if
there
is
an
amendment
in
the
packet
that
has
not
yet
been
attached,
that
the
item
would
automatically
go
on
discussion
to
ensure
that
the
governing
body
or
the
committee
did
not
miss
the
opportunity
to
move
that
amendment
if
they.
So
if
they
wish
to
do
so
and.
A
So
if
an
amendment
is
approved
at
the
committee
level,
it
attaches
to
the
bill
right
and
we've
had
that
where
then
it
comes
to
governing
body,
and
we
don't
have
to
re-vote
on
any
of
the
amendments
because
they're
already
part
of
the
bill,
and
so
this
would
address
the
situation
of
that.
We
have
a
problem
with
right
now,
where
we
had
an
amendment
that
had
not
been
voted
on
in
committee
and
therefore
was
not
part
of
the
bill
came
to
governing
body,
and
then
we
approved
it,
but
there
was
that
amendment
had
not
been.
E
H
Yeah
we're
trying
to
allow
for
it
we're
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
miss
it
so
so
this
would
have.
This
would
not
impact
what
happens
at
governing
body
because
that's
a
different
set
of
rules
so,
but
this
would
make
sure
that
as
it's
moving
through
committee,
if
there
is
a
new
amendment
in
the
packet
that
basically,
we
would
call
attention
to
that
bill
so
that
it
would
come
it
would
urge
come
into
that
piece
of
legislation.
H
H
A
H
H
I'm
not
sure
that
we
can
vote
on
this.
I
don't
think
that
we
have
the
materials
clear
enough,
but
I
think
that
maybe
just
having
a
discussion
with
you
all
about
this
issue
and
and
your
thoughts
on
it
would
be
helpful
for
us
in
terms
of
having
this
conversation
at
governing
body,
because
we
are
now
going
to
need
to
have
it
at
governing
body.
H
But
the
the
general
idea
is
that
if
there
is
a
new
amendment
in
the
packet
that
for
that
piece
of
legislation
would
automatically
put
be
put
on
discussion
as
opposed
to
consent
to
essentially
flag
the
committee,
that
there
is
an
amendment
that
to
be
considered
and
they
can
or
cannot,
consider
it
and
again
to
have
that
same
flag
happen
at
governing
body.
We
would
have
to
change
a
different
set
of
procedural
rules,
but
this
way
we
could
at
least
look
at
it
from
the
committee
perspective.
H
So
I
think
that
we
need
to
go
over.
Unfortunately,
jesse's
not
here,
we
probably
need
to
go
over
with
jesse
some
of
the
language,
because
all
these
different
pieces
are
moving
together.
So
we
can
consolidate
that
and
move
it.
A
governing
body,
but
I
would
be
curious
to
hear
perspectives
from
the
committee
on
this
idea.
E
H
H
So
it's
only
if
there's
an
amendment
that
has
not
yet
been
considered
and
has
not
yet
been
approved
by
a
previous
committee
and
therefore
it
is
still
a
free-floating
amendment
and
has
not
been
approved
and
therefore
become
part
of
the
bill
that
is
being
voted
upon.
Voted
on.
My
lord,
I
can
talk.
I
promise.
H
If
this
is
the
correct
amendment,
then
yes,
this
would
say
this
would
just
essentially
say
that
if
there's
a
new
amendment,
the
item
will
automatically
be
placed
on
discussion.
E
H
Correct
and
it
would
go
by
the
same
rules
of
how
we've
been
doing
it
essentially,
is
that
we
have
to
write
it
out.
We
need
to
see
it,
and
so
yes,
that
you
could
still
adopt
it
on
the
fly.
If
you
pull
and
have
an
amendment
and
it
gets
written
out
and
you
vote
on
it
and
then
it
would
be
attached
and
in
the
next
packet.
H
E
I
think,
what's
when
I
see
these
amendments,
I
I
never
like
them
because
they
say
where
they're
supposed
to
be
inserted
and
then
you
can't
actually
see
how
it
reads
as
a
whole.
Exactly
we'll
get
a
red
line,
so
red
lines
are
helpful.
E
E
E
E
I
H
If
it
had
been
save
this
amendment
say
there
was
no
new
amendment.
We
just
had
the
original
amendment.
If
it
had
been
accepted
at
quality
of
life,
it
would
just
become
part
of
the
bill
and
what
each
each
committee
was
voting
on
would
include
that
amendment
that
had
already
been
adopted
at
quality
of
life.
A
I
think
maybe
the
best
thing
to
do
here
is:
let's
hold
this
bill:
let's
table
it
it
and
then
not.
Have
it
go
to
government
there's
no
rush.
So
we
let's
table
it,
get
the
right
thing
in
front
of
us
and
clear
up
the
confusion
and
then.
E
Thank
you
so
that
you're
saying
it
will
go
to
governing
body
on
the
10th.
A
C
F
A
Answer
that
so
yes,
but
another
three
count,
we
haven't
had
this
happen
yet,
but
another
three
counselors
could
change
it
at
the
next
stop
or
we
could
change
it
at
governing
body.
We
we
haven't
done
that
yet,
but
the
whole
the
whole
idea
to
take
us
back
to
january
about
voting
on
bills.
Remember
the
philosophy
was
we
want
to
do
the
work
of
shaping
the
legislation
predominantly
at
the
committee
level,
instead
of
rehashing
the
same
conversations
four
different
times,
one
at
each
committee
stop
and
then
back
at
governing
body.
A
A
A
If
there's
something
we
haven't
thought
about,
yet
we
can
do
what
we
call
amending
it
on
the
fly
as
long
as
it's
written.
So
it
could
a
change
that
occurs
to
you
in
the
middle
of
the
governing
body.
Meeting
after
it's
already
been
to
three
committees
could
be
considered
a
governing
body,
but
we
have
to
pause
and
write
it
out
and
show
it
to
everybody
so
that
we're
all
very
clear
I
mean
we're
making
law.
F
D
H
There
would
be
we've,
we've
actually
seen
this
in
our
packets
already
and
how
it
has
indicated
is
that
you
have
the
original
bill
and
then
it
said
you
know,
casted
amend
approved
at
blank,
and
so
you
see
that
it's
been
approved,
and
so
therefore
you
know
that
when
you
are
voting
on
the
bill,
you're
also
voting
on
the
amendment
as
approved
at
quality
of
life,
and
so
at
that
point
it
is
they
travel
together.
H
If
you
approve
it
on
consent,
you
are
approving
the
bill
or
the
legislation
with
the
amendment
that
has
been
approved
by
a
previous
committee.
Now,
if
you're
looking
at
that-
and
you
say
hey-
I
don't
like
that
amendment-
you
can
pull
it
off
consent
and
make
a
motion
to
remove
the
amendment
we
haven't
seen
this
yet
so
I
don't
know
how
they
would
indicate
that
and
that's
for
for
staff
to
figure
out
how
they
would
continue
to
track.
That
kind
of
the
way
I
think
about
it
is
when
it
goes
through
committee.
H
F
H
So
going
to
discussion
shows
that
there's
an
amendment
there
that
has
yet
to
be
has
yet
to
be
considered
and
approved.
If
it's
on
discussion.
That
means
that
amendment
has
not
been
approved.
Now
it
does
start
to
get
finicky.
You
know
they
would
still
have
to
indicate
if
something's
been
approved,
because
if
there's
a
new
amendment,
then
it
would
go
into
discussion.
A
H
The
thinking,
and
also
I
mean,
as
at
the
governing
body,
we
do
have
the
ability
to
say
this
isn't
ready,
let's
pop,
let's
send
it
back
to
committee
or
we
have
the
ability
to
say
we
don't
have
time
to
send
this
back
to
committee,
we're
going
to
sit
here
and
we're
going
to
hash
through
this
for
an
hour
and
a
half
in
governing
body.
So
we
didn't
want
to
limit
our
ability
to
do
that.
H
H
Ourselves
that
flexibility
but
build
in
the
structure
so
that
in
an
ideal
world
in
an
ideal
process.
So
again,
what
we'll
do
tonight
with
this
one
is
we'll
table
it
until
the
next
meeting,
which
gives
the
finance
committee
the
ability
to
stop
it
in
its
tracks
and
say
just
kidding.
This
isn't
ready.
So
we're
going
to
hold
it
because
it's
not
ready
for
prime
time.
H
No,
that's
part
of
the
problem
is
that
this
one
is
not
in
the
red
line
version,
so
we
do
need
to
work
with
with
the
legislative
staff
to
update
that.
E
E
That's
why
it's?
I
guess
it's
hard
for
me
to
think
about,
like
you
have
an
amendment,
it's
changed
and
then
it
moves
on
as
the
change
diversion
versus
like
two
different
amendments
coming
down
the
track
that
are
different,
that
stay
as
they
initially
were,
instead
of
being
manipulated,
changed
and
then
we
have
to
like
rehash
it
out
in
the
governing
body
session
and.
A
A
But
it
could
also
be
that
it's
that
it
the
amendments
that
happen
as
it
moves
make
good
improvements
that
make
it
so
that
everybody's
okay
with
it
and
maybe
they're
not
or
not.
It
could
be
that
one
committee
does
one
thing:
the
other
committee
goes
the
other
direction
and
then
it
then
the
governing
body
as
a
whole
would
have
to
decide
which
version
or
which
combination
of
the
two
is
palatable
to
the
majority.
A
A
F
During
governing
body,
we
go
through
erin
for
that
she
looks
at
it
make
sure
it's
okay,
maybe
not
deleting
the
whole
thing,
but
adding
a
section
to
it
or
adding
a
couple
words
or
something
aaron
doesn't
have
that
ability
now
to
look
at
it.
We're
worksmithing
we're
approving
changes
and
moving
it
forward.
H
That's
why
why
for
amendments
at
the
committee
level,
we've
built
in
this
ability
for
committees
to
hold
it,
so
they
were.
I
mean,
as
we
are
today
we're
having
a
discussion
about
this,
we'll
hold
it
and
say,
and
that
gives
us
two
weeks
until
the
next
committee
to
move
through
work
with
legal
to
actually
write
something
down
and
have
it
move
forward.
A
But
also,
if
I
can
add,
if
we
make
a
mistake,
that
legal
has
an
issue
with
they'll
propose
to
the
sponsors
or
to
the
amendment
makers,
you
know
whatever
the
problem
is
the
fix
to
whatever
the
problem
is
so
until
it's
on
final
passage
at
governing
body.
It's
still,
you
can
still
mold
it
and
shape
it
and
change
it
and
amend
it.
A
I
don't
remember
that
specific
situation,
but
you
know
a
committee
can
adopt
an
amendment
as
long
as
it's
written
and
if
there's
a
problem
with
it
and
it's
it's
already
passed
the
committee
it
it,
it
was
approved
at
it'll,
just
be
fixed
either
at
the
next
committee
or
at
governing
body.
If
there's
a
legal
issue
with
it
or
if
there's
you
know
a
majority
of
counselors
who
don't
like
the
change.
A
A
So
and
usually
we
have
our
legislative
person
here,
so
I
would
assume
if
we
were
making
up
something
that
we
hadn't
thought
of.
Until
this
moment
they
would
be
working
to
write
it
for
us
and
then
that
would
get
communicated
through
staff
to
the
appropriate
to
the
city
clerk's
office,
and
I
mean
there's,
there's
some
staff
behind
the
scenes.
Work
that
happens.
A
All
right,
so
I
think
we
should
table
this.
H
We're
actually
going
to
be
postponing
it
too.
Certainly.
A
H
Postponed
this
until
the
next
finance
committee
meeting.
A
All
right
is
there
a
second
all,
those
in
favor
aye
all
right.
Anybody
opposed
right.
We're
gonna
postpone
this
to
our
next
finance
committee
meeting
and
we
will
get
an
amendment
in
your
packet.
So
we
are
all
clear
what's
happening
all
right.
We
are
on
to
item
g.
A
E
A
E
D
I
Madame
sharer
counselor
via
real,
no,
in
fact
it
has
changed.
Two
projects
are
different.
The
fire
station
is
number
one.
It
was
not
number
one
last
year
and
the
new
central
library
may
have
been
in
the
top
five,
but
definitely
the
permanent
and
transitional
housing
to
end
homelessness
was
not.
E
E
I
E
Okay,
so
the
reason
why
I
ask
is
because
I
was
trying
to
remember-
and
they
looked
through
my
old
documents-
I
couldn't
find
it,
but
what
was
actually
funded
out
of
those
ones
that
we
had
the
top
five
and
I
didn't
think
the
funded
to
date
was
necessarily
just
legislative
funding.
It
was
a
combination
of
funds,
correct.
I
Thank
you,
madam
chair
council
of
url.
That's
correct.
The
funded
to
date
is
not
not
just
legislative
funds
and
I
did
send
out
that
list.
It's
been
sent
a
couple
of
times.
It
was
sent
in
response
to
a
requestion
of
finance
about
a
month
ago,
and
then
we
sent
it
again
in
response
to
a
question
from
counselor
lindell.
When
I
first
sent
out
the
icip
there's
about
15
million
dollars
of
funding
that
we've
received
in
the
last
two
years.
That
was
on
that
list.
I
Sent
a
funding
list,
yes
of
the
funds
that
have
been
received
from
the
legislature
and
they
had
the
funds
that
were
appropriate
but
not
yet
received,
and
so
and
so
the
medians
received
funding
one
park
received
funding
medians
received
over
a
million
dollars.
Midtown
received
a
million
dollars
in
fiscal
year.
21.
I
can.
I
can.
I
can
pull
up
that
list
for
you
again
right
now,.
E
I
Thank
you
so
much
for
that
question.
It's
a
great
question.
Fire
station
has
not
received
any
funding
at
all
from
the
legislature,
so
that's
a
completely
unfunded
construction
of
a
completely
designed
facility.
A
swan
park
pays
to
did
receive
about
350,
000
or
something
like
that.
Last
year.
I
We
do
need
quite
a
bit
more
to
really
accomplish
phase
two
and
since
that's
a
priority,
midtown
has
will
have
received
once
we
get
the
fiscal
year,
the
2021
appropriation,
two
million
dollars
from
the
legislature
and
1.1
from
the
governing
body
in
the
grt
bond,
but
we
know
that
that
will
continue
to
require
investment
to
accomplish
our
goals
there
and
super
high
priority.
I
The
new
central
library
at
midtown
has
not
received
any
legislative
funding,
but
it
did
get
a
three
hundred
thousand
dollar
allocation
from
the
governing
body
last
year
in
fiscal
year,
22
to
begin
planning,
which
is
just
about
to
start
permanent
and
transitional
housing.
This,
of
course,
has
not
even
been
on
our
icip
at
all,
so
it
hasn't
received
any
legislative
funding,
but
the
governing
body
has
appropriated
a
little
over
a
million
dollars
of
the
arpa
funds
to
this
effort.
I
That
hasn't
really
been
programmed
specifically,
what's
going
to
be
done
with
that,
but
it
is
sort
of
in
this
zone,
but
we
do
show
this
as
an
unfunded
project
for
the
ending
homelessness.
At
this
point,
so
in
fact,
I'd
like
to
add
to
that
as
well,
it's
actually
really
important
that
we
continue
to
seek
funding
to
projects
that
are
partially
funded,
because
anything
that
has
funding
has
to
be
in
progress
and
project
managed
and
takes
resources
and
attention
from
finance
from
legal
from
our
project
management
team.
I
And
if
we
keep
like
throwing
out
new
projects
to
get
partial
funding.
We
just
end
up
with
this
huge
ton
of
things
in
progress
and
we
really
need
to
reach
the
finish
line
finish
things
get
them
off
our
plate
and
then
add
new
projects.
To
that
we
have
quite
a
few
projects
underway,
as
you
guys
that
are
on
public
works
committee,
saw
from
our
status
reports
that
we
provided
a
couple
weeks
ago.
So
I
would
really
encourage
the
focus
on
bringing
projects
to
the
finish
line
as
much
as
possible.
E
I
Madam
chair
caltobia,
real
we
could
have,
but
that
money
that
was
appropriated
was
per
minute.
There
was
going
to
be
for
an
encampment,
and
now
it
may
be
for
facilities
to
support
encampments,
and
so
I
didn't
really.
This
project
is
envisioned
to
be
probably
two
types
of
scenarios.
One
would
be
purchasing
a
hotel
one
or
more.
Another
scenario
might
be
purchasing
land
and
developing-
maybe
transitional
housing
as
well
as
permanent
housing
on
that
site.
I
Maybe
so
maybe
a
shelter
as
well
as
an
apartment,
building,
something
like
the
santa
fe
suites
ended
up
being
so
it's
kind
of
got
those
two
visions
in
it
and
I,
and
at
some
point
we
may
show
that
million
dollars.
If
that's
what
we
decide
to
spend
that
our
money
on,
but
I
don't-
I
don't
know-
that's
been
specifically
programmed
yet.
I
Madam
chair
account
for
virial
that
money
has
been
up
until
just
recently
considered
to
be
the
money
to
get
the
encampment
the
the
safe
space,
and
now
it
might
be
reprogrammed
for
something
else.
We
could
show
it
there
if,
if
we
feel
like
it
is
either
for
permanent
or
transitional
housing.
I
guess
I
was.
E
Just
thinking
about
it
from
a
legislator's
perspective
that
we've
invested
in
that
already
that
we've
put
in
like
we
have
commitment
to
it
and
therefore
they
should
continue
it
or
add
to
what
we
need
for
it.
That
was
what
I
was
thinking.
The
reasoning
behind
you
know
showing
that
1
million
for
arpa
was
related
to
that
topic.
E
I
You,
I
think,
that's
a
great
point
and
at
least
in
the
in
the
description
the
longer
description,
the
project
we
could
say
the
city
has
purchased,
has
been
a
partner
and
purchased
santa
fe
suite
the
city
has
partnered
and
is
operating
an
emergency
shelter
at
the
midtown
campus.
The
city
is
looking
at
supporting
encampments
with
health
and
safety
types
of
operating
support.
I
This
is
the
next
phase
in
our
you
know
our
vision,
zero,
so
that
that's
a
great
idea.
Thank
you
so
much
we
can
modify
that.
E
E
I
Thank
you
so
much,
madam
chair,
council
villarreal,
I
think.
Actually
again,
I
wouldn't
encourage
it
for
the
top
five,
it's
sort
of
a
very
localized
community
impact,
rather
than
some
of
these
other
projects
that
have
a
much
broader
community
impact.
I
I
think
that
that
you
know
that
neighborhood
will
definitely
lobby
again
for
investment,
so
we
maybe
are
hopeful
about
getting
some
significant
contribution
from
the
legislature
towards
design
and
once
that
project
is
underway,
we
could
conceivably
apply
for
dot
funds,
but
also
we
do
we
will
be
doing
a
grt
bond
once
the
audit
is
complete
and
the
fiscal
year
21
audit
is
complete,
and
so
that
will
be
an
opportunity
to
fund
sort
of
more
local.
You
know
road
and
repair
projects
and
those
types
of
things
park,
equipment,
repair
projects.
I
You
know,
facility,
repair
projects.
The
grt
bond
is
typically
our
capital
investment
in
maintenance,
and
so
this
that
might
be
a
good
project
for
that,
and
you
can
also
look
at
dot
funds.
I
Your
district
report-
yes,
it
could.
I
in
fact
I
thought
the
top
two
candidates
for
district
one
would
be
the
pickleball
courts
which
have
a
significant
private
donation
pending,
and
so,
if
we
could
match
their
private
donation,
we
could
really
make
some
pickleball
courts
happen
or
sarah
florida
would
be
the
other
one
that
I'd
recommend
for
top.
Okay,.
A
C
I
Actually,
madam
chair
counselor,
lindell
I'd
say
that
this
project
has
sort
of
been
ongoing,
since
I
got
here
actually
and
as
we
discuss
with
the
community
exactly
what
constitutes
that
phase.
So
it's
really
up
to
the
community
and
they're
there.
I
think
there
are
some
shifts
councillor
godover
has
been
involved
as
well
since
the
beginning.
So
it
is,
you
know
it's
a
group
of
it's.
I
According
to
the
master
plan,
there's
a
number
of
improvements
that
are
envisioned
as
part
of
phase
two,
but
the
community
is
making
decisions
about
which
ones
are
important
to
them
and
what
they,
what
they
would
like
to
see
there.
I
I
E
C
My
question
really
is:
is
it
a
project
that's
ready
to
go.
I
Man,
insurance,
counselor
lindell.
I
I
believe
it
is
that
we've
spent
some
time
doing
planning
and
that
didn't
have
construction
money.
And
so
it's
really
important,
though
I
think
we
have
the
whole
package
that
we
can
plan
agree
and
get
it
constructed,
because
we
keep
we
end
up
being
a
little
bit
in
a
cycle
of
planning,
because
we
just
keep
having
partial
funding.
C
I
don't
have
another
project
that
I'm
saying
I
think
should
go
there,
but
that
one
just
doesn't
seem
quite
as
specific
to
me
I'll
leave
my
comment
at
that.
I
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
If
I
could
and
counselor
lindell
for
your
question
just
for
the
government
for
the
committee's
consideration,
I
think
maybe
one
of
the
you
know
the
airport
has
been
on
our
top
five
for
some
time
and
very
successfully.
So
now
we're
well
into
a
construction
project
with
a
new
parking
lot
and
a
terminal
expansion.
I
We
do
have
the
phase
two
of
that
terminal
expansion
on
the
list,
although
not
in
the
top
five,
but
there
is
a
project
on
the
list
that
might
be
considered
very
closely
related
and
very
important
to
our
community,
which
is
the
new
access
road
to
the
airport
off
of
the
new
overpass,
that's
been
built,
and
so
that
could
be
one
that
has
great
economic
development.
Quality
of
life
impacts,
security
and
safety
impacts.
I
I
It's
number
41.,
it's
on
page.
H
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
More
of
a
comment
council
river
and
I
have
been
meeting
with
a
some
representatives
from
the
adult
soccer
league
and
you'll,
see
that
the
mrc
soccer
valley
expansion
has
been
added.
H
D
I
think
it
was
exactly
madam
chair
counselor
reality.
H
So
the
one
hitch
right
now
it
is
item
number
63,
the
one
contingency
is
because
there
has
been
some
longer
time
periods
that
it
has
taken
to
make
some
improvements
on
the
mrc.
This
private
donor
initially
has
given
basically
a
three-year
time
limit
for
us
so
that
they
want
the
city
to
be
able
to
move
start
moving
forward
in
three
years,
or
else
that
those
three
million
dollars
will
be
lost.
H
So
I
did
just
want
to
make
members
of
the
governing
body
aware
that
that
is
a
potential
opportunity
that
we
have.
I
know
that
melissa
discussed
a
couple
different
revenue
sources
right
now.
This
one
seems
like
the
most
viable
regina.
I
don't
know
if
you
had
any
other
potential
opportunities
that
we'd
be
able
to
use
to
fund
to
find
the
matching
funds
for
this
from
the
city
side.
I
Thank
you,
madam
chair
counselor
casa.
I
think
our
standard
set
would
be
available
legislative
funds,
grt
bond
and
go
bond.
That
might
actually
be
something
that
would
have
brought
enough
community
support
for
geo
bond,
which
we
haven't
done
in
some
time,
but
the
mayor
has
talked
about
as
soon
as
we're
in
a
good
position
to
do
that
that
we
might
want
to
do
that
for
public
safety
infrastructure
and
I
think
a
soccer
valley.
But
I
think
those
are
the
probably
the
big
three
legislative
drt
ngo.