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okay,
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agenda
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approved
as
amended,
that
takes
us
to
item
five,
which
is
approval
of
the
minutes.
These
are
the
regular
finance
committee
meeting
minutes
of
august
30th
2021.
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there
any
changes
from
staff?
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okay,
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have
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motion
regarding
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minutes.
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motion
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a
second
can
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roll
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okay,
councilwoman
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Reyel
did
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have
a
question
yeah.
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Mr
chair
counselor,
via
real
these
items
are
under
200
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and
they
will
be
sent
to
the
city
manager
for
her
approval,
as
is
permitted
under
the
emergency
proclamation.
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be
going
to
the
any
committees
or
the
governing
body.
They
will
be
routed
to
the
city
manager
for
her
review.
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C
Thank
you,
mr
chair
counselors.
Today
joining
us
is
dr
white.
He
will
be
reviewing
an
economic
outlook
for
through
the
first
half
of
the
year
and
the
first
quarter
of
the
fiscal
year.
I'll
turn
it
over
to
dr
white.
J
J
All
right,
so
I've
constructed
sort
of
a
brief
overview
of
what
the
outlook
is
for
this
new
santa
fe,
as
we
head
further
into
fiscal
year,
22
through
this
first
half
of
next
year,
and
so
looking
at
this,
and
so
you
know,
you've
seen
me
before,
I
think,
speak
to
the
council.
It
is
always
an
honor
and
I'm
grateful
to
be
here.
J
I'm
an
associate
professor
of
finance
and
the
assistant,
dean
of
teaching
and
learning
at
unm
anderson
and,
in
this
context
here
we're
going
to
go
over
quickly,
some
national
economic
numbers
to
give
you
a
sense
of
what
to
expect
in
the
months
ahead.
So
the
big
perspective,
ideas
that
are
there
are
that
we're
seeing
slow
economic
growth,
easing
economic
growth,
not
slow.
J
I
should
say
we're
still
seeing
elevated
rates
of
gdp
this
year
fiscal
year,
20,
I'm
sorry
the
year
2021
we're
expected
to
end
around
six
percent
gdp
growth
that
will
continue
into
next
year.
At
a
slower
rate.
Broad
improvements
in
the
economy
have
been
offset
by
a
few
frictions,
notably
decreases
in
inventories.
J
Government
spending
the
stimulus
that
we've
saw
before
that
helped
highlight
the
economic
advantages
and
growth
in
the
last
year,
as
well
as
labor
shortages
in
the
labor
market.
We've
seen
robust
wage
growth
and
record
10.9
million
dollar,
10.9
million
job
openings
and,
of
course,
the
difficulty
with
jobs
that
are
being
open
when
we
lost
a
lot
of
jobs
at
the
beginning,
the
epidemic
and
the
pandemic.
Last
year
there
were
a
couple
of
issues.
One
was
that
it
took
a
very
long
time
to
get
those
jobs
back.
J
The
second
is
that
people
in
those
jobs
no
longer
when
they
were
laid
off,
went
on
to
other
careers
and
other
and
other
perspectives,
and
the
third
part
is
that
we've
actually
diminished
the
amount
of
people
who
are
currently
employed
in
our
workforce,
our
participation
rate
and
so
I'll
go
into
a
little
bit
more
detail
on
that
in
a
second,
inflation
remains
elevated,
but
it
is
declining.
We
sort
of
crossed
a
little
barrier
in
august.
J
The
dollar
is
also
declining
in
value
of
note,
is
to
watch
what
the
federal
reserve
does
in
the
next.
In
the
next
few
months,
there's
been
a
lot
of
discussion
about
the
question
of
tapering,
the
federal
reserve
tapers,
what
they
do
to
help
stimulate
the
economy
or
what
they
did
was
by
a
lot
of
bonds
and
mortgage-backed
security
and
they're.
Looking
at
tapering
this
potentially
this
year.
J
What
this
does
is
potentially
reduce
some
of
the
upward
pressures
that
we've
seen
on
real
estate
in
other
parts
of
the
market,
and
we
don't
expect
them
to
increase
the
discount
rate,
which
is
that
overnight
lending
rate
to
large
banks
until
a
little
bit
further
off,
despite
the
temporary
one
sense
about
to
look
at
the
job
market
is
to
look
at
how
covid
cases
reflect
on
our
employment
numbers
that
we
get
monthly.
J
And
here
what
I've
done
is
I've
plotted
our
monthly
covid
cases
from
august
2021,
which
is
on
the
left
all
the
way
back
through
last
july,
as
well
as
non-farm
payroll,
which
is
the
orange
number
when
we
have
a
lot
of
covid
cases
in
blue,
our
job
numbers
go
down
and
that's
the
same
whether
it
was
january
or
december
of
last
year,
as
well
as
august
of
this
year.
J
We
saw
a
surge
of
coveted
cases
due
to
the
delta
variant
and
the
amount
of
non-farm
payrolls,
the
jobs
that
we
all
take
part
in
actually
declined
as
well.
One
note
as
well
especially
for
the
city
of
santa
fe
looking
forward
is,
are
those
travel
numbers.
We
stayed
very
consistent
early
on
with
projections
as
to
how
many
people
would
be
in
the
air
we're
still
about
80,
for
where
we
were
back
in
2019
and
that's
sort
of
that
light.
J
Orange
colored
line
that
you
see
here
when
we
forecast
this
out,
it's
highly
dependent
and
highly
variable,
based
on
the
amount
of
potential
additional
variants
we
might
have,
etc,
etc.
So
we're
still
tracking
behind
in
those
in
those
travel
numbers.
K
J
New
mexico,
the
key
picture
here
is
to
acknowledge
that
we
are
going
to
be
experiencing
slow
and
steady
growth.
New
mexico
is
tied
for
the
second
highest
unemployment
rate
in
the
nation.
The
most
recent
number
at
7.2
is
below
7.6,
but
it's
still
very,
very
high
non-farm
employment,
which
is
the
people
employed
in
non-farm
work
in
new
mexico.
The
size
of
our
total
labor
force
grew
from
about
784
000
to
809
000.
J
For
the
first
half
of
this
year
we
saw
those
numbers
grow
in
leisure
and
hospitality
and
as
well
in
government,
real
estate
prices
and
rents
are
growing
starting
to
grow
more
slowly
after
a
year
of
absolutely
historic
increases.
Also
for
new
mexico
and
relevant
to
the
state's
revenue
pattern.
Oil
prices
have
been
around
70
exceeding
70
dollars
a
barrel
in
some
cases,
which
has
led
to
new
mexico,
improved
new
mexico
oil
production.
J
This
benefits
the
bottom
line
of
the
state,
we're
typically
in
a
typical
year,
we're
the
third
biggest
oil
producer
of
any
state
for
a
few
months.
This
year
we
were
actually
second,
and
this
should
improve
the
state
revenue
forecast
through
fiscal
year
2022
as
well.
J
So
when
you
think
about
this
one
of
the
things
to
note,
we
talked
about
this
in
the
previous
meeting,
as
well
as
the
surge
in
real
estate
prices,
and
these
have
been
not
just
confined
to
the
property
values
themselves
here.
Santa
fe
is
in
red
and
albuquerque
is
in
yellow
and
then
new
mexico
is
in
green,
but
it's
also
involving
several
other
things,
especially
rent
increases
and
and
rent
increases
have
increased
across
the
entire
country.
J
We
saw
surges
across
real
estate
as
well
as
rent
and
and
usually
what
have
what
happens
now
becomes
very,
very
interesting,
usually
to
meet
that
demand.
We
see
a
lot
of
building
of
multi-family
units,
a
lot
of
building
of
apartment
complexes.
Albuquerque
saw
a
year
on
your
increase
through
august
22
21
of
about
17
in
rent
increases.
You
can
see
for
the
state
of
new
mexico
on
the
chart
at
right.
J
One
focus
that
I'd
like
to
kind
of
drill
down
a
little
bit
deeper
on
are
questions
around
child
care
and
economic
recovery.
One
aspect-
that's
often
overlooked
by
many
economists,
is
the
fact
that
we
have
very
high
child
care
costs,
and
these
were
exacerbated,
in
fact,
by
the
labor
shortages
we
saw
during
the
pandemic
and
to
give
you
a
sense
of
this
participation
rates
in
in
in
the
labor
force,
meaning
that
people
who
go
out
look
for
jobs
are
looking
for.
J
Employment
in
new
mexico
are
somewhat
lower
than
in
the
united
states,
and
this
is
this
is
partially
due
to
the
availability
of
child
care
nationally
about
44
of
parents
left
the
workforce
during
the
pandemic
did
so
to
the
cost
of
childhood.
About
62
the
pandemic
said
it
more
made
it
more
difficult
to
afford
child
care
in
city
in
the
city
of
santa
fe,
there
are
seven
permanent
closures
of
early
childhood
childcare
facilities.
J
Four
remain
temporarily
closed
and
to
give
you
a
sense
of
this
and
further
on
this,
and
where
does
this
fall
down
and
how
does
this
affect
economic
recovery
and
and
as
as
you
all
know,
the
the
difficulty
is?
This
falls
disproportionately
on
women
if
you
lose
a
job
when
the
reason
is
child
care
over
a
quarter
of
all
site
child
care
as
the
reason
as
opposed
to
about
12.8
percent
of
men-
and
this
is
very
interesting
to
give
it
kind
of
even
more
kind
of
context.
J
This
was
a
article
the
other
day
from
the
washington
post,
using
borrowed
labor
statistics
data.
When
we
look
at
the
recovery
of
total
employment
across
the
state
of
new
mexico.
J
This
is
the
entire
united
states,
as
well
as
the
state
of
new
mexico,
we're
about
96
of
the
way
there
for
all
employees.
Restaurants
are
still
a
lagging
they're
about
92
percent
of
the
way
there
and
child
care
is
even
worse
they're
about
88
there,
so
child
care
is
really
struggling
to
recognize
and
be
able
to
hire
workers
and
and
that's
seeing
through
in
a
lot
of
new
mexico
families.
J
Now,
when
we
talk
about
santa
fe
and
kind
of
drilling
deeper
into
the
santa
fe
economic
overview,
one
point
I
want
to
bring
up.
Is
there
the
uneven
growth
that
we've
sort
of
seen
is
expected
to
continue?
J
It's
likely
that
the
record
growth
in
real
estate
and
rents
will
slow
through
fiscal
year
2022
construction
demand
is
going
to
continually
is
likely
to
continue
to
be
robust
rents.
A
lot
of
the
the
federal
fund
federal
the
set,
I'm
sorry,
which
sets
one
overnight
overnight
lending
rate
to
large
banks,
known
as
the
discount
rate,
which
has
kind
of
a
domino
effect
on
a
lot
of
other
rates
in
the
system.
J
That's
expected
to
remain
very
low,
at
least
over
the
next
year,
and
because
of
that
interest
rates
are
expected
to
remain
low
and
the
fundamentals
that
power
economic
growth,
low
rates
equating
to
greater
affordability,
greater
homes
that
you
can
purchase
less
affordability
is
expected
to
continue,
although
at
a
slower
rate,
the
tight
labor
market
conditions.
We
had
questions
about
this
and,
looking
into
this
over
the
last
few
months,
we
had
expected,
they
would
bounce
back,
perhaps
a
little
bit
quicker.
This
is
taking
longer
to
do
so,
and
this
makes
sense.
J
If
we
look
at
some
of
the
new
data,
that's
still
coming
out
tight
labor
market
conditions
are
expected
to
continue,
even
as
wage
growth
improves
and
where
we've
seen
a
lot
of
that
wage
growth
has
been
one
of
the
federal
reserve.
Economic
data
sets
deals
with
non-supervisory
employees.
Some
non-managers
people
who
are
working
in
the
circle
saw
a
large
growth
of
wages
in
these
areas.
J
Unemployment
in
santa
fe
has
fallen
to
seven
percent,
but
there's
still
about
three
thousand
fewer
workers
employed
in
leisure
and
hospitality
than
prior
to
the
pandemic,
and
about
two
thousand
fuel
workers
in
government
and
sort
of
these
tendencies.
To
look
at
this
in
a
city
like
santa
fe
and
to
say
you
know,
what's
going
to
happen
over
the
next
year
or
two,
there
will
be
gradual
improvement
along
these
lines.
Nationally,
we've
seen
difficulty
with
supply
chains.
J
One
reason
that
you
can't
get
silicon
chips
or
buy
consumer
products
and
services
to
the
same
level
is
that
the
pandemic
crucially
affected
international
supply
chains
and
looking
at
santa
fe
unemployment,
it's
tracking
about
where
we
thought
it
would
right
now,
but,
as
you
can
see,
it
still
remains
really
elevated
compared
to
where
we
were
back
before
the
pandemic.
J
Is
an
astounding
number
to
look
at
when
you
look
at
right
before
the
pandemic
in
2020,
when
unemployment
was
about
four
percent,
when
we
look
at
one
other
tool,
we
have
for
santa
fe,
looking
at
how
employment
and
wages
stack
up
is
that,
typically
across
new
mexico,
wages
are
a
little
bit
depressed
relative
to
national
averages
here,
and
you
know
it's-
and
I
know
it's
a
little
bit
difficult
to
read,
especially
for
viewers
out
there
in
blue.
J
J
Sectors
in
san
jose
are
office
and
administrative
support,
food
preparation
and
serving
related
sales,
business
and
financial
operations
management
and
that's
on
the
left-hand
side.
Orange
are
the
mean
hourly
wages
in
santa
fe
and
typically,
if
you
expect,
due
to
cost
of
living
other
things,
that
wages
were
less
than
average,
it
would
be
consistent.
J
But
what
it
reveals
is
that
there's
a
few
segments
of
the
economy
that
we
that
santa
fe
commands
a
premium
for
workers
and
a
lot
of
that
there's
fewer
workers
to
go
around
employers
will
often
compete
for
a
premium
on
those
workers
and
places
where
we
see
santa
fe
wages
match
national
levels
as
employers
seek
out.
J
You've
also
seen
wage
increases
across
the
board
headlines,
both
for
child
care
workers,
as
well
as
local
businesses
looking
around
and
trying
to
make
and
offering
incentives
to
hire
workers,
and
it's
very
interesting.
What
you've
seen
is
kind
of
a
market,
that's
highly
dependent
on
sectors
and
in
sectors
that
are
highly
competitive.
Already.
You
either
notice
very
little
change
in
the
way
that
they
hire
employees
or
or
even
more
demands
from
employees
in
terms
of
production
or
even
in
terms
of
of
saying.
J
Oh,
my
goodness,
you
have
to
come
into
work
those
kind
of
things
in
areas
that
are
having
a
difficult
time
finding
workers
areas
that
are
sectors
that
are
particularly
hit
by
the
pandemic
and
seeking
workers
they're,
offering
incentives
that
normally
weren't
found
in
these
in
these
areas
in
significant
amounts
signing
bonuses,
others
involved
and,
let's
think
about
the
overview
of
what
we
think
the
revenue
growth
will
look
like
towards
fiscal
year
2022.
J
We
should
expect
to
have
slower
growth
throughout
the
year.
In
the
absence
of
any
additional
stimulus,
money
or
stimulus
package,
the
growth
in
grt
and
lodgers
tax
revenues
are
expected
to
slow
considerably.
We
saw
a
massive
bounce
back,
a
wonderfully
massive
bounce
back
from
fiscal
year
21..
This
growth
goes
slow
when
we
think
about
current
and
future
coded
variants,
they
have
a
profound
effect
on
travel,
job
growth,
prospects
for
santa
fe
systematically.
J
That
becomes
a
that's
really
the
great
unknown
to
any
forecast
as
to
what
those
variants
might
look
like
and
how
economies
will
handle
if
those
variants
come
to
be
and
the
federal
reserve
is
tapering
security
purchases,
and
this
has
the
benefit
of
likely
contributing
part
of
the
story
to
slowing
property
value
growth,
as
we
sort
of
gradually
get
back
to
some
level
of
normalization.
J
These
aspects,
the
second
the
market
for
second
homes,
the
other
things
that
we're
looking
for
in
the
economy
should
start
slowing
and
make
real
estate
more
reasonable.
However,
there's
nothing
to
suggest
at
this
point
any
economic
correction
that
would
physically
in
itself
reduce
the
price
of
real
estate
in
itself.
So
so
it's
one
thing
to
say:
growth
will
be
slower,
it's
yet
another
to
say
that
growth
will
decline
and
we
haven't
seen
anything
yet
on
the
economic
horizon,
suggesting
that
additional
apartment
inventory
will
likely
help
slow
increases
in
rents
locally.
J
Lastly,
this
inflationary
pressure
that
we're
seeing
is
expected
to
be
short-term,
short-term
inflationary
risks
can
be
damaging
for
individual
wallets.
They
are
expected
to
continue.
J
We
look
at
the
areas
where
they're
concentrated
in
heavily
in
fuel,
as
well
as
some
consumer
goods
that
are
affected
by
global
supply
chain
issues,
so
this
will
likely
continue
to
affect
residents
and
companies
doing
business
in
new
mexico
and
in
santa
fe
at
least
through
next
year.
This
sort
of
unwinding
of
these
supply
chain
concerns
is
taking
a
bit
longer
than
expected
right
now.
J
The
the
sort
of
the
overarching
belief
across
economic
consensus
is
that
inflation
is
going
to
be
very,
is
going
to
be
relatively
short-lived,
but
if
inflation
proves
to
be
longer
and
one
of
those
engines
that
drives
inflation
longer
is
higher
system
over
many
months,
then
the
fed
will
likely
step
in
and
increase
rates
earlier
than
they
previously
anticipated,
and
so
this
is
kind
of
a
quick
overview
of
what's
going
on
in
santa
fe
right
now-
and
I
appreciate
your
patience
for
listening
to
this-
is
there
any
questions
about
this
questions?.
L
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chair,
and
thank
you
again,
dr
wright,
for
being
here.
I
just
had
a
a
few
potential
follow-up
questions
that
you
may
not
have
have
the
answer
to.
First
of
all,
it's
very
well,
I'm
not
sure
happy
is
a
correct
word,
but
thankful
to
see
the
information
on
child
care.
This
has
been
a
really
big
issue
that
I've
been
talking
to
a
lot
of
people
about
and
pushing
and
discussing.
L
You
mentioned
the
the
challenge
that
child
care
is
having
hiring
workers,
and
this
is
something
that
I've
I've
really
been
hearing,
as
I've
been
talking
to
community
members
to
providers
to
non-profits
who
are
working
in
this
field
has
any
of
the
research
that
you've
come
across
start
to
dig
into
the
the
why
this
is
happening.
What
is
the
challenge
that
is
really
leading
to
this
lack
of
rebound
in
the
employment
section?
There.
J
That's
a
really
good
question
counselor
and
I'm
I'm
very
grateful
for
it.
So
when
we
look
at
this,
when
we
look
for
over
a
very
very
long
period
of
time,
one
of
the
real
engines
for
u.s
economic
expansion
in
the
70s
80s
90s
to
2000s
was
an
increase
in
the
size
of
our
participation
rate.
J
Our
labor
force-
and
this
was
primarily
driven
by
women,
who
were
eight,
who
joined
the
labor
force
for
the
first
time
and
that
contributed
more
economic
power,
more
economic
growth,
and
that
was
a
tied
that
lifted
all
boats
in
the
economy.
And
what
we've
seen-
and
this
has
been
a
struggle
through
the
last
several
recessions-
is
that
we
often
haven't
recovered
the
participation
rates
we
saw,
especially
since
2008
during
the
great
recession.
J
So
if
we
track
the
participation
rate,
not
only
in
new
mexico,
but
also
throughout
the
united
states,
it
goes
down
really
rapidly
after
a
recession,
and
it
takes
a
very
long
time
to
come
back
and,
and
it
doesn't
really
come
back
to
where
it
was
before,
and
so
that
relates
to
child
care
significantly,
because
child
care
costs
sort
of
what
we're
seeing
wages
for
the
child
care
sector
remain
very,
very
low,
and
that
makes
it
very
difficult
to
hire
workers.
J
Consequently,
especially
with
something
with
such
a
high
level
of
responsibility,
such
a
difficult
task,
wages
remain
incredibly,
incredibly
incredibly
low,
and
so
people
who
might
otherwise
be
employed
in
child
care
services
are
taking
jobs
in
other
places
that
are
less
demanding
and
less
and
less
involved
in
those
sorts
of
work,
and
so
consequently,
it's
sort
of
a
negative
cycle
where
the
work
becomes
harder,
as
as
there
are
fewer
places
that
operate
in
this
section
and
then
suddenly.
J
Now
you
have
a
situation
where
you
have
real
child
care
shortages
and
availability
of
labor,
and
so,
and
so
it
becomes
a
real
question
and
right
now,
as
you
can
see,
from
sort
of
the
most
recent
chart,
is
that
or
the
one
that
I
showed
in
the
presentation
is
that
it
has
not
recovered
as
fast
as
other
places
and
as
as
fast
as
other
sectors
in
the
economy.
I
should
say,
and
that's
a
very
notable
thing
and
it's
been
a
challenge,
and
so
I
can
look
further
into
that
as
well.
L
Yeah,
I
definitely
I
appreciate
that
and
that
aligns
with
a
lot
of
what
I've
been
hearing
about.
What's
going
on
locally,
also,
the
question
of
a
lot
of
child
care
workers
are
women
who
need
child
care
to
go
to
work
and
there's
almost
this.
This
cycle
that
starts
to
evolve
just
even
within
the
industry.
So
I
absolutely
appreciate
more
information
on
that
one.
So
thank
you
for
offering
to
look
into
that
more
for
our
next
update.
I
had
a
just
a
quick
follow-up.
L
J
That's
a
very
good
question,
so
I
can't
speak
for
either
one
of
those
and
their
success
and
and
that's
a
good
question
something
I
can
look
into
further.
Did
you
know
that
they
have
been
met,
signing
bonuses
across
the
country
in
separate
firms?
J
If
you
look
at
some
aggregate
data,
there
is
mixed
success
in
that
that
raising
wages
does
increase
the
amount
of
people
who
might
apply,
but
there's
still
a
disconnect
between
the
available
availability
of
jobs
and
the
workers
who
are
seeking
them,
and
that
becomes
a
big
issue.
But
I'll
look
into
that
as
well.
L
J
Right
and
there's
more
jobs
available,
but
again,
the
jobs
available
are
not
the
ones
that
the
people
who
might
be
looking
for
work
might
be,
are
qualified
for
or
they
actually
have,
the
skills
necessary
to
perform.
And
so
it's
one
thing
to
have
a
lot
of
open
jobs.
But
then
there's
the
separate
issue
of
skills,
training
and
that's
something
that
as
a
country,
you
know
there's
so
many
things
that
that
could
go
on
in
that
category.
J
But
this
would
be
workforce
training,
other
things
to
get
people
aligned
to
the
skills
that
happen
and-
and
one
final
note
about
that
is
during
a
recession.
We
often
it
often
accelerates
job
market
behaviors
or
job
market
tendencies
that
are
already
there.
So
so,
if
we
look
at
if
people
are
struggling
to
find
service
sector
workers
in
2019,
people
are
really
struggling
to
find
service
sector
workers
in
2020
and
2021..
J
L
Yeah,
thank
you
for
that
and
I
think
that's
another
important
thing
for
us
to
start
looking
at
is
where
we're
having
challenges
within
the
city
and
and
where
some
of
that
worker
skill
might
be
needed
and
how
we
can
potentially
assist
that
to
to
recover
the
economy
in
santa
fe.
And
then
this
is
less
of
a
question
and
more
just
of
a
of
a
comment
that
mention
of
you
know,
covet
cases
going
up
and
jobs
going
down,
as
well
as
the
variants
and
how
this
impacts
our
economy
and
and
just
well.
L
L
I
would
urge
you
to
to
go
get
a
vaccine,
because
it
really
does
impact
the
so
many
aspects
of
our
community
and
it
it's
not
just
about
the
health.
It
is
this
economic
health
piece
that
we
are
all
very
concerned
about.
The
health
piece
is
very
important
too,
and
saving
lives,
obviously,
but
the
negative
consequences
of
the
economy
struggling
those
really
impact
lives
as
well,
and
so
it's
all
related
go
get
a
vaccine.
Thank
you.
So
much.
M
Could
we
get
a
a
copy
of
the
presentation
email
to
all
of
us
yeah?
That
would
be
great
if
you
can
take
care
of
that
miss
mccoy.
Thank
you.
A
Okay,
so
that
brings
us
to
the
items
that
were
pulled
from
the
consent
calendar.
The
first
is
c
request
for
approval
of
change
order.
Number
two
to
cip
number
957
aeration
project
bid,
number
2017b
with
rmci
inc
for
an
increase
in
the
amount
of
750
hundred
sixty
eight
dollars
and
twenty
cents
and
included
in
this
request
is
the
request
of
a
bar
budget
adjustment
resolution
from
the
wastewater
enterprise
fund
in
the
amount
of
750
968
dollars
and
20
cents
councilwoman
lindell.
I
The
bid
on
this,
and
actually
not
even
the
bid,
the
engineering
prior
to
was
pretty
far
off
from
where
we
ended
up.
Could
you
speak
to
that.
I
This
is
change
order
number
two
and
of
course
neither
one
of
them
have
been
inexpensive,
they're,
both
very
very
high
ticket
and
high
dollar
amounts.
I'm
just
wondering:
is
it
common
and
acceptable
for
the
engineering
to
be
this
far
off?
N
I
don't
have
all
of
those
in
from
all
that
information
myself.
I
don't
really
deal
with
the
engineering
aspect
of
the
of
the
bidding
process,
but
I
can
definitely
look
into
that
and
get
you
that
information.
One
of
the
items
I
believe
was
for
the.
N
N
N
One
of
the
items
that
was
unforeseen
was
the
amount
of
sludge
that
needed
to
be
removed
from
the
aeration
basin
itself
that
I,
I
don't
believe
there
is
a
way
to
calculate
the
amount
of
sludge
that
can
collect
on
the
bottom
of
this
basin.
N
So
that
was
a
portion
of
the
the
the
expense
on
this
change
order,
and
that
was
for
removal
of
the
sludge.
On
the
the
let's
see.
I
I
I
see
it
on
page
four
of
of
28,
if
that's
helpful
to
you
that
it
was
361
000.
N
Yes,
that's
I
I
believe,
and-
and
that
was
for
both
the
north
and
the
south
aeration
basin
and,
like
I
said,
there's,
there's
no
real
way
to
calculate
the
amount
of
sludge
that
can
collect
these
basins
have
been
online
for
for
several
years.
We
do
occasionally
remove
them
from
service
and
and
tried
to
do
a
quick
inspection,
but
unfortunately
there
are
only
two
basins
that
are
that
we
are
capable
of
running
for
this
facility.
N
Half
of
our
capability
to
treat
the
wastewater
so
just
to
sum
it
up,
there's
there's
that's
an
unforeseen
expense.
On
that
end,.
I
It
it
appears
on
page
four
that
removal
of
the
sludge
from
the
northern
there
was
a
spill
on
march,
4th
that
there
was
a
removal
of
sludge
of
71
000.
N
So
that
spill
was
an
accumulation,
an
excessive
accumulation
of
foam
that
occurred,
and
this
this
definitely
occurs
when
there's
an
upset
in
the
treatment
process,
so
cutting
the
the
capacity
down
to
half,
really
disturbs
the
microorganisms
and
and
their
environment.
N
So
if,
if
that,
if
that
happens,
the
aeration
basins
tend
to
accumulate,
foam
and
there's
a
particular
type
of
microorganism
that
that
that
just
loves
that
environment
and
that's
the
filamentous
bacteria.
So
once
that
starts
collecting
it's
it's
kind
of
tough
to
remove.
It
took
a
few
weeks
just
to
get
us
back
under
control.
N
But
this
does
occur
when
there's
plant
upsets
of
of
any
sort.
N
N
This
this
bill
just
to
to
let
everybody
know
so
that
this
bill
was
did
occur,
but
it
did
not
happen
outside
of
the
facility.
It
was
just
a
spill
into
the
north
basin,
which
was
empty
at
the
time
and
no
one
was
in
it.
M
I
All
right,
I
just
I'm
troubled
when
we
have
two
very
sizable.
I
A
L
B
A
Yes,
okay,
so
that
item
passes.
That
brings
us
to
item
p,
which
is
a
request
for
approval
of
a
professional
service
contract
for
a
total
amount
of
376
000
for
a
four-year
contract
to
aspen
solutions,
llc
to
provide
program
evaluation
using
a
results-based
accountability
framework
for
the
grantees
of
the
human
services
committee
and
children
and
youth
commission,
councilwoman
lindell.
I
Oh,
thank
you,
hello,
miss
sanchez,
just
one
quick
question
on
this:
when
we
put
the
rfp
out
on
this,
did
we
have
more
than
one
response.
K
Good
afternoon
or
good
afternoon,
good
evening,
city,
council,
councilwoman
lindell,
we
did
have
two
respondents
for
this
particular
bid.
I
Okay-
and
this
is
a
company
that
we've
worked
with
on
this
project
in
the
past-
correct
that
is
correct.
Okay,
that's
really!
All
I
wanted
to
know
is
if
we
were
able
to
have
more
than
one
respondent
on
this
rfp
I'll
make
a
motion
to
approve
chair.
A
Amending
subsection
1463d2
to
prohibit
the
conduct
of
a
cannabis
establishment
as
a
home
occupation,
amending
section
14-12-1
to
add
definitions
for
various
types
of
cannabis
establishments,
establishing
an
effective
date
and
making
such
other
changes
as
are
necessary
to
carry
out
the
purpose
of
this
ordinance.
Councilwoman
villarreal.
H
That
was
a
long
one.
Thank
you.
I
just
pulled
this
to
see
if
there
were
any
updates
from
land
use.
We
had
considerable
discussion
at
the
quality
of
life
committee
and
there
were
some
things
that
the
landing
staff
were
going
to
get
back
to
us
about
specifically
mapping
out.
H
The
establishments
that
would
be
that
would
need
a
a
buffer
and
then
the
consideration
of
potentially
adding
in
religious
institutions
in
there,
but
we
would
still
need
to
have
a
mapping
of
those
locations
to
find
out
if,
if
there's,
where
they're,
currently
zoned
wouldn't
wouldn't
be
permitted
anyway.
So
we
there
were
a
few
things
and
then
the
other
thing
was
just
trying
to
figure
out
what
would
be
best
for
potentially
using
canopy.
So
I'm
just
curious
if
there
was
any
updates
for
us
on
those
areas.
O
Mr
toad,
thank
you,
mr
chair
counselors,
counselor
viral.
Thank
you!
So,
yes,
we
we
have
looked
into
all
those
issues.
We
don't
have
resolution
all
of
them
yet,
but
I'm
happy
to
give
you
an
update,
thank
you
for
asking
and
we're
also
prepared
to
give
the
presentation
again
if
you
all
like,
I
know,
there's
lots
of
the
same
people
here
that
work
quality
of
life,
but
I'm
happy
to
review
that,
probably
not
as
thoroughly
as
no.
O
I
apologize
you
couldn't
be
here
tonight
anyway,
so
the
production
locations
and
the
religious
institutions,
so
we
do
have
an
update
that
miss
salazar
could
probably
present
here
in
a
minute
an
updated
map
that
does
show
those
locations.
So
you
get
an
idea
of
the
you
know
the
potential
effect
of
those
we're
working
with
gis
to
extract
the
zoning
to
make
a
zoning
map
that
extracts
the
the
i1
i2
and
vip
districts.
O
That
would
be,
you
know
where
the
production
would
be
allowed,
and
I
could
tell
you
real,
quick
and
also
we
could
look
at
that
on
the
on
this
map
as
well
in
a
minute.
But
basically
there
are
three
areas
in
town:
it's
the
you
know
the
pacheco
san
mateo
area,
the
solar
roofina
area
and
the
airport
599
area
out
by
the
airport.
Those
are
really
the
three
locations
where
industrial
and
vip
are
concentrated
and
there's
really
only
one
small
area
of
vip.
O
Actually,
so
I
just
wanted
to
give
you
that
update
and
then
noah
is
working.
I
apologize
again
he's
out,
but
we
are
working.
You
know
as
rapidly
as
we
can
to
get
compile
data
on
the
canopy
methods
that
are
currently
employed
in
oregon,
new
jersey,
colorado
and
california.
O
And
again
I
wanted
to
clarify
that
you
know
staff
is
happy
to
discuss
and
or
you
know,
to
meet
with
any
of
the
counselors
that
that
would
wish
you
and
discuss
the
matters
around
this,
and
you
know
to
help
you,
you
know
come
forth
with
any
contemplated
amendments
you
may
have
so
I
see
chair
chair.
P
Committee
mission
committee
members,
I
wanted
to
update
you
about
amendment
that
is
moving
forward
before
jason
finishes
off
so
counselor
garcia
at
quality
of
life
asked
for
an
amendment
that
was
sent
to
you
earlier
today
regarding
religious
institutions.
P
So
we
do
have
an
updated
gis
map
that
does
have
all
of
the
religious
institution
locations
and
all
the
school
locations
included.
I
had
one
change
that
leonard
was
going
to
help
me
with
before.
I
could
send
it
out
to
the
entire
governing
body,
but
I
do
have
it
up
so
that
you
can
see
that,
but
I'll,
let
jason
finish
before
that
happens.
Thank
you.
O
Thanks,
andrea,
so
just
to
continue
and
so
similar
for
the
establishing
the
proximity
measurement
that
council
romero
worth
is
concerned
about
noah's.
Looking
into
that
with
you
know,
with
these
other
states
and
we're
also
working
with
gis
to
try
to
establish
a
you
know
an
easy
way
to,
or
at
least
a
clear
way,
I
think
it
will
be
complicated
actually
in
the
end
or
complex
I
should
say,
but
anyway
you
know
the
simplest
way
possible
to
do
that.
O
Proximity
measurement
then,
like
andrea
said,
I
I
wanted
to
on
the
note
of
grandfathering,
maybe
andre,
maybe
you
could
cover
that
just
the
the
notion
about
the
apothecaries
versus
the
cannabis
establishments-
corporate
cannabis
establishments.
Maybe
you
cover
that
in
a
minute
and
then
we're
also
looking
into
best
practices
to
reduce
carbon
emissions
and
then
again
under
I
mentioned
council
garcia's
amendment
and.
I
O
Councillor
viral,
like
that's
all
that
I
had
on
my
notes,
I
hope
that
I
was.
If
I
answered
your
question,
you
know
please
let
me
know
if
there's
anything
else,
you
can
feel.
H
So
I
think
that's
that's
it.
I
think
we're
just
wanting
to
see
the
map
and
just
kind
of
do
an
analysis
of
that,
and
I
don't
know
if
we're
able
to
look
at
it
now.
I
just
I
think
it
helped
actually
send
it
to
us.
So
we
can
look
at
it
prior
to
this
meeting,
it's
kind
of
hard
to
see
things
when
you're
sharing
screens,
but
we
could
give
it
a
try.
O
Yeah,
thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
and
I
apologize
you
know
we
all
know
this
thing
is
moving
really
quickly
and
we've
got
lots
of
other
irons
in
the
fire.
So
I
apologize,
we
just
you
know
we
just
we
just
don't
have
it
yet,
but
I
think
andrea.
Could
I
think
we
can
send
you
what
we
came
up
with
and
definitely
we
can
continue
to
send
you
all
the
data,
as
it
appears
for
sure
I'm
happy
to
do
that.
A
Counseling
cassette,
you
have
your
hand
up,
it
was
what
it
was
it
on
this
point
or
councilwoman
vrial.
Are
you
done.
H
K
P
P
The
little
teeny
eyes
that
almost
look
like
little
people
and
square
boxes
are
all
the
religious
institutions
and
all
the
dots
of
different
colors
are
all
the
schools
in
the
area.
So
when
we
do
zoom
in
in
some
of
the
areas,
you
will
see
that
there
are
religious
institutions
that
are
within
the
300
zone
marker,
I
believe
in
some
of
the
areas
they're
within
400
feet,
but
I
am
happy
to
send
this
map
as
it
now
exists
to
you,
so
you
can
peruse
it
yourself.
P
We
were
just
having
it
finalized
and
once
again
removing
some
of
the
the
information
that
had
been
used
by
the
policy
subcommittee
to
make
their
determinations
before
so
we've
removed
that,
and
then
we
have
this
to
send
to
you,
I'm
happy
to
zoom
in
in
any
way
or
show
you
anything
you
would
like,
but
I
will
be
sending
you
this
link.
P
So
each
one
of
these
areas
is
an
established
retail
apothecary
on
top
of
that.
So
if
you
look
to
the
left,
there's
a
buffer
of
cannabis
business
parcels
and
it
has
purple-
is
100
feet.
Blue
is
200
feet,
red
is
300
feet,
green
is
400
feet
and
yellow
is
600
feet,
so
that
is
the
kind
of
heat
map
signature
of
each
circling
the
premises
of
each
of
the
existing
apothecaries.
P
Currently
this
map
has
all
of
the
zoning
linked
into
it,
so
you
can
zoom
in
and
see
what
the
zoning
is
and
then
you
also
have
all
of
these
little
institutions.
We
don't
have
right
now,
a
map
that
shows
the
property
line
of
the
institutions,
and
that
is
the
proposed
amendment.
That's
in
the
pot
in
the
packet
is
that
it
would
be
measured
from
the
property
line
of
the
religious
institution.
H
Okay,
the
other
thing
we're
thinking
about
for
institutions
is
the
majority-
might
already
be
located
in
residential
areas,
so
they
wouldn't
there
wouldn't
be
an
allowance
of
cannabis
retail.
Is
that
correct?
So
I
guess
what
we're
trying
to
determine
is,
if
there's
a
need
to
add
institutional
or
sorry,
religious
institutions
in
there
that
would
be
applied
to
that
300-foot
buffer.
P
I
think
so
chair,
counselor
viarelle.
I
I
think
it
shows
the
zoning
areas,
but,
as
you'll
see
from
this,
the
religious
institutions
are
all
over
the
map
in
santa
fe.
So,
as
I
zoom
out,
you
see
how
many
exist
in
santa
fe
and
as
you
zoom
in
you
see
that
they're,
not
necessarily
in
those
areas.
We
do
have
a
couple
of
religious
institutions
in
this
eye
area,
which
is
kind
of
a
major
industrial
area
in
santa
fe,
around
rufina
and
seiler
road,
where
there
are
cannabis
establishments,
both
retailers
and
producers.
P
H
A
Okay,
councilwoman
romero
worth.
I
know
you
had
your
hand
up
during
this
map.
There's
a
question
regarding
the
map.
E
O
So
the
by,
if
I
may,
okay
go
ahead
and
if
you'd
like
thank
you.
Q
Okay,
thanks
chair
councilmember,
where
this
was
kind
of
something
we
were
going
back
and
forth
on,
because
we
looked
at
some
case
law
related
to
alcohol
licenses
and
how
those
distances
were
calculated,
and
things
like
that.
Q
So
to
make
it
somewhat
consistent
with
that,
we
looked
at
the
distance
between
the
building
used
for
the
religious
institution
and
the
licensed
premises
for
the
definition
of
so
the
definition
of
religious
institution
is
the
building
used
for
and
then
it
includes
the
purposes,
and
we
looked
at
a
variety
of
definitions
for
religious
institutions
and
came
up
with
one
that
seemed
pretty
inclusive
and
to
the
intent.
Q
We
understood
that
council
garcia
had,
although
we
have,
I
think,
he's
reviewing
it
right
now
and
then
in
terms
of
the
distance
from
which
the
building
would
be
measured.
It
would
be
to
the
licensed
premises
of
the
of
the
whatever
the
retailer
had
on
file
as
their
premises.
Q
Chairman
of
beta
council
remember,
that's
correct
and
the
reason
that
we're
proposing.
That
is
because,
in
the
case,
law
related
to
schools,
things
like
parking
lots
have
been
excluded
from
a
distance
and
they
look
at
the
actual
facility
used
for
instruction.
E
Q
I'm
innovate.
The
counselor
mayor
worth
it
appears
church
is
not
defined
in
the
city's
code.
I
think
we
need
to
look
a
little
bit
about
case
law,
defining
church,
I'm
guessing
it's
interpreted
quite
broadly,
because
otherwise
we
would
have
a
first
amendment
problem.
I'm
not
sure
if
there's
an
express
case
on
that
point,
but
we
would
need
to
definitely
include
all
denominations
analogous
to
something
called
the
church
already,
so
it
might
be
duplicative
and
we
could
look
at
that.
E
Q
Accounts,
remember
they
they
did
not
expressly.
It
was.
That
would
be
a
fall
into
the
category
of
whether
it's
a
reasonable
density
limitation
that
a
local
government
could
put
in
place.
So
we
would
be
put
against
the
test
of
reasonableness,
which
has
not
been
litigated
yet,
so
we
don't
know
where
that's
gonna
fall.
E
E
Is
have
you
looked
at
whether
we
talked
a
little
bit
at
quality
of
life,
about
there
being
exceptions
in
the
liquor
law,
where
you
could,
where
we,
I
guess,
is
the
governing
body
occasionally
say
that
there
is
not
that
will
that
that
will
provide
an
exception
for
the
serving
of
liquor
or
for
the
establishment
itself,
because
it
is
within
the
proximity
that
we
don't
want
it
to
be.
But
you
know
the
the
folks
that
are
impacted,
write
a
letter
and
say
we're
okay,
and
we
can
grant
that.
Q
Parameter
counselor
merworth.
What
I
did
look
at
is
the
state
statutes
on
liquor,
and
so
they
do
create
the
waiver
process
via
statute.
So
that
was
a
framework
that
we
adopted.
I
don't
think,
there's
anything
prohibiting
that
here
it
was
not
requested
by
councillor
garcia,
so
we
have
not
included
it
in
his
amendment.
E
But
but
we
don't,
we
do
locally
as
a
municipality
have
the
ability
to
create
a
similar
waiver
if
a
counselor
were
was
interested
in
doing
that.
E
Are
all
religious
institutions
identified
this
the
the
definition
that's
being
thrown
out
here,
a
building
having
the
primary
purpose
of
either
a
church,
temple,
mosque
or
other
place
of
worship,
or
to
support
and
manage
the
practice
of
a
specific
set
of
religious
beliefs?
E
E
Ayahuasca
there
we
go
and
if
somebody
had
a
facility
and
they
were
doing
that
practice
that
could
fall
under
this
definition
yeah,
and
maybe
we
don't
know
that
they're
doing
it
or
maybe
we
do
know,
I
don't
know
what
the
rules
are
about
that,
but
I'm
just
curious
does
that?
Do
we
capture
that
by
s
talking
about
this.
Q
Chairman
of
either
counselor
merworth,
if
that
situation
came
up,
I
think
what
we'd
look
at
is
the
first
amendment
principles
that
that
particular
church
was
absolutely
recognized
under
the
us
supreme
court
case
on
the
matter.
So
right
very
famous
case,
and
so
we
would
go
to
that,
we
would
have
to
recognize
it
to
those
boundaries.
The
definition
we
use,
we
looked
at
a
few
different
options
from
other
jurisdictions.
I
think
this
one
was
a
slightly
modified
version
from
unesco.
E
And
I
think
the
question
was
whether
they
could
whether
they
could
exist
where
they
wanted
to
be,
and
they
were,
I
think,
in
a
residential
area.
Again,
I'm
really
fuzzy
on
this.
It's
been
a
long
time,
but
would
we
know
some
something
like
that
that
might
cap
get
fall
into
this
definition
and
then
I
don't
know
we
allow
cannabis
establishment
to
to
establish
itself,
and
then
we
find
out
that
it's,
I
don't
know,
I'm
probably
too
many
what-ifs
too
many
creating
too
many.
I
don't
know
again.
E
I
guess
I'm
I.
What
I'm
worried
about
is
painting
too
brought
a
brush
and
how
we
go
about
some
reasonableness
in
and
what
exactly
it
is
we're
trying
to
ward
off
defend
against
yeah,
because
that's
going
to
come
into
reasonableness
right.
Q
Chairman
of
a
counselor,
absolutely
something
else
we
can
do
is
follow
up.
So
apparently
our
gis
folks
have
identified.
They
were
able
to
identify
parcels
as
religious
institutions,
so
we
can
look
a
little
bit
further
into
that
as
to
what
information
they're,
relying
on
probably
the
same
as
churches
for
right
now.
So
we
look
into
how
that
happens
and
verify
that,
but
I
don't
know
that
for
sure.
Personally,
I
don't
know
if
directory
clue
has
any
additional
information
on
that
nope
yeah.
Q
We
can
look
more
into
it,
I
mean
so
we
got
the
these
updates.
The
map
today,
like
andre,
was
mentioning
there's
just
one
tweak
we
need
to
make
before
we
send
out
the
link,
that's
not
to
the
religious
institutions
portion,
but
just
one
of
the
layers
needs
a
fix,
not
one
of
the
ones
you're
looking
at
right
now,
so
we'll
just
get
that
addressed
and
then
send
it
out.
A
Okay,
I'm
going
to
go
to
councilman
cassette
and
then
counselor
garcia
has
joined
us
and
he
has
his
hand
up,
but
councilwoman
cassette.
L
L
Do
we
have
one
for
cannabis
as
well?
Yet
is
that
so
that's
something
that
we
could
consider
if
we
wanted
to
allow
that?
Okay,
so
that'd
be
part
of
that
same
discussion.
Also,
it
looked
like
on
the
map
day
cares
were
not
included.
Just
it
looks
like
k
through
12
and
colleges.
Am
I
correct
there,
andrea.
P
L
L
My
understanding
is
that
some
of
the
philosophy
around
zoning
with
canopy
would
be
to
control
the
resources
utilized
that
there's
there's
water
considerations,
that
there's
energy
considerations
and
that
by
controlling
canopy
we
are
looking
at
how
those
resources
are
utilized
for
the
cannabis
industry,
and
I
guess
one
of
my
first
questions
about
that
is
based
on
what
the
state
has
allowed
us
to
make
decisions
on.
Would
we
even
be
able
to?
Is
that
something?
L
That's
within
our
jurisdiction
to
say
we
are
going
to
limit
canopy
size
to
no
more
than
this
size,
or
we're
only
going
to
allow
x
number
of
producers
that
have
a
extra
large
canopy,
or
I
don't
remember
all
the
categories
that
were
there,
and
so
I'm
curious
is
that
have
you
guys
have
looked
into
that
at
all
and
if
that's
a
consideration.
P
Sorry,
chair
counselor
cassette
at
at
the
moment.
We
have
not
necessarily
lined
that
up
as
being
looking
into
water
and
energy
resource,
mainly,
I
think
in
our
discussions
about
canopy.
It's
really
about
the
size
of
the
production
area.
So
because
a
production
area
is
a
complicated
space,
meaning
you
can
have
tiered
levels
of
production
in
a
small
space
or
you
can
have
it
completely
spaced
out.
P
The
idea
was
potentially
regulating
it
in
terms
of
size
so
that
in
specific
areas
that
it's
allowed,
it's
not
a
huge
spatial
sizing
of
canopy
area,
but
because
of
the
way
it
was
then
linked
in
the
ordinance
itself.
It
wasn't
delineated
by
canopy
area,
so
while
it
could
be-
and
the
finance
committee
could
make
determinations
or
submit
an
amendment
to
change
that
so
in
certain
districts
you
limit
the
canopy
area
that
wasn't
necessarily
a
consideration.
P
Now
we
are
doing
research,
as
jason
had
had
mentioned
about
the
carbon
emission
footprint,
and
so
that
is
some
research
that
is
occurring
and
happening.
We
do
not
have
any
determinations
or
anything
beyond
the
article
that
I
believe
mr
fluke
sent
out
so
that
that's
all
the
information
I
have,
but
maybe
he
has
some
more.
I.
O
Could
add
a
little
bit
to
the
picture?
Thank
you
so
mr
chair
counselors
counselor
kassad,
so
we
have
reached
out
to
the
water
division
and
they
understand
that
the
current
water
budget
estimates
for
nurseries
are
an
adequate
for
cannabis
and
outdoor
landscaping
is
probably
not
correct
either.
O
So
they
are,
you
know
they
understand
that
they
may
need
to
develop
a
new
way
to
budget
water
for
indoor
agricultural
operations
within
the
context
of
cannabis,
and
so
that's
that's
all
that
we
have
from
them
so
far.
They
do
understand
that
it
needs
to
be
addressed
and
it
has
not
been
yet.
L
Okay,
thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
it's
aaron
did
you
have
something
to
add.
Q
Chairman
of
it's
a
counselor
cass,
I
just
wanted
to
add-
I
don't
think
we
could
say
no
facilities
greater
than
a
certain
size
that
that
would
potentially
be
problematic,
because
we
can't
completely
prohibit
a
particular
business
to
operate,
but
what
we
can
do
is
reasonably
regulate
it.
So
maybe
there's
a
certain
area.
We
would
only
want
that
size
in
if
there's
a
particular
public
policy
reason
we're
trying
to
address
by
doing
that.
Okay,.
L
Thank
you
yeah.
That
was
my
understanding,
so
I
appreciate
that
follow
up
that
there
wouldn't
be
an
ability
to
say
we're
limiting
canopy
size
throughout
the
city
to
this
amount.
So
thank
you.
I
had
another
kind
of
random
question.
One
of
those
3am
thoughts
is
this:
are
our
cannabis
distribution
sites
allowed
at
the
farmers
markets,
so
I
know
that
right
now,
cbd,
I
believe,
operates
at
the
farmers
markets.
Is
that
something
that
somebody
could
potentially
do
grow
cannabis
and
then
bring
it
to
the
farmers
market
to
sell
or
do
we?
L
P
I
bait
the
counselor
cassette,
at
least
the
rail
yard
farmer's
market.
I
do
believe
there
is
a
prohibition
potentially
on
cannabis
shops.
I
have
to
look
at
the
master
plan,
but
in
my
review
of
the
master
plan
at
an
earlier
date,
I
thought
that
that
had
been
a
prohibition,
I'm
happy
to
follow
up
on
that,
but
I
do
not
necessarily
know
the
answer
as
to
whether
they
could
be
a
market
that
comes
through
in
not
for
a
long-term
purpose,
because
I
think
the
license
is
linked
to
an
actual
business
address.
P
So
I
don't
know
if
it
would
be
allowed
to
then
be
sold
during
a
farmers
market
saturday
or
sunday
or
tuesday.
Okay,.
L
Okay,
yeah,
that's
that
was
that
was
my
question,
then
the
other
one
at
presbyterian,
which
I'm
not
sure
where
that
sound
and
then
andre
you
mentioned
so
the
entire
rail
yard.
Right
now,
there's
a
there's.
A
ban
on
cannabis
shops
is
that
both
the
rail
yard
and
then
baca
district
as
well.
P
L
Wonderful,
okay,
I
think
those
were
all
my
follow-up
questions
for
now.
This
canopy
thing.
I
think
the
thing
that
I'm
struggling
with
is
is
a
little
bit
of
the
the.
Why
so
I
appreciate
that
you
guys
are
doing
some
more
research.
You
know
what
does
this
get
us?
I
understand
that
if
there
were
specific
zones
that
we
wanted
to
limit
larger
producers
into
that'd
be
interesting.
Actually,
out
of
curiosity,
how
many?
You
probably
don't
know
this
off
the
top
of
your
head,
how
many?
L
L
R
Hi
rich
mr
chair
and
council
cass,
if
I
could
give
you
a
glimpse,
maybe
of
an
answer,
so
we're
working
with
a
business
accelerator,
santa
fe
innovates,
and
we
just
recently
had
a
webinar
on
the
subject
with
potential
entrepreneurs.
16
folks
said
that
they
were
interested
in
starting
a
business.
We
don't
know
how
it's
broken
down,
but
we
are
about
to
sponsor
a
cohort
in
october
to
see
what
type
of
entrepreneurship
folks
are
going
to
pursue,
but
you're
correct.
R
The
cost
of
farming
in
the
city
is
way
more
expensive
than
if
you
go
out
to
the
county,
so
it
may
be
production
testing
manufacturing
more
than
it
is
an
agricultural
issue
because
of
the
cost
of
ownership
of
just
getting
it
started
up.
You
have
to
find
the
right
investor
who
is
going
to
be
able
to
take
on
some
of
those
hard
costs
that
you
will
have
with
it.
O
Okay,
I
can
add
that,
if
you
like
sure,
but
just
under
the
in
the
in
chapter
14
the
14-6.11
the
table
of
permitted
uses,
it
does
list
various
categories
that
are
available
for
urban
farms
from
ground
level,
roof
level,
aquaponics
aquaponics
et
cetera.
O
If
you'd
like
to
review
that
or
I
could
go
over
now,
if
that's
appropriate,
many
of
them
do
require
a
special
use,
permit
the
only
ones
that
are
permitted
about
a
special
use
permit
of
the
urban
farm
ground
level
less
than
ten
thousand
square
feet,
and
then
they
are
permitted
in
residential
areas
as
an
accessory
use,
but
that
would
not
be
applicable
with
cannabis.
L
I
Thank
you
chair.
I
don't
have
a
specific
question.
I'm
just
going
to
bring
up
a
issue
and
an
item
that
I'm
concerned
about
and
counselor
cassette
touched
on.
It
sorry.
I
We
can
review
it
at
the
beginning,
or
we
can
review
it
later
on
when
we
think
it's
a
problem,
but
I
think
the
water
usage
with
this
industry
is
intensive
and
I
just
read
an
article
from
the
new
york
times.
I
I
think
it
actually
was
on
lines
with
the
new
mexican
about
water
theft
in
oregon
and
how
this
industry
has
stolen
a
lot
of
water,
not
accusing
anyone
just
saying
that.
I
think
that
we
need
to
know
that
we
are
opening
our
doors,
not
just
in
the
state
in
our
city,
to
a
very
water
intensive
usage,
and
perhaps
we
need
to
get
in
front
of
this
and
look
at
what
our
rates
are
for
industries
that
use
disproportionate
amounts
of
water.
I
It's
it's
just
a
comment
and
trying
to
look
into
the
future
because
it
certainly
is
completely
dependent
upon
water.
We
already
use
30
of
our
water
for
landscaping.
It's
a
lot,
so
I'm
just
giving
the
council
a
heads
up
that
it's
something
that
I
hope
all
of
you
have
your
antenna
up
about
and
that
you
start
thinking
about,
because
I
think
it
will
become
an
issue.
E
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
do
have
some
more
generalized
questions,
I'll
just
pick
up
with
council
where
councillor
lindell
left
off.
So
it's
my
understanding
that
the
state
legislation
requires,
and
hopefully
I'm
getting.
This
right
requires
this
industry
to
bring
water
rights
with
them.
Is
anybody
familiar
with.
E
Yeah,
well
I
again
I
was,
as
we
were
doing
some
other
stuff.
I've
been
trying
to
scan
it's
like
a
176
page
bill,
and
I
was
thumbing
through
it
to
to
find
you
know
answers
to
a
number
of
things
that
we're
struggling
with.
I
think
on
the
local
level,
and
I,
but
I
don't
know
what
that
means.
If
you're
going
to
produce
cannabis
in
the
city
of
santa
fe,.
E
P
Chair
the
council
romero
worth
there
is
a
provision
under
the
commercial
cannabis
activity
that
says,
there's
a
requirement
as
a
condition
of
licensing
pursuant
to
the
cannabis
regulation,
act
that
the
applicant
has
passed
illegal
rights
to
commercial
water
supply
water
rights
for
another
source
of
water,
sufficient
to
meet
the
water
needs,
as
determined
by
the
division
related
to
the
license,
as
evidenced
by
documentation
from
the
office
of
the
state
engineer
of
a
valid
water
right.
So
there
is
a
provision
in
there
that's
required
and
I
can
keep
searching.
E
E
Okay,
I
think
we
need
to
understand
the
practical
effects
of
that
a
little
bit,
because
we
can't
we
don't.
If
we
don't
understand
what
it
is,
you
have
to
do
at
the
state
level
to
be
licensed
with
regard
to
your
water
usage,
it's
hard
for
us
to
know
where
again,
where
the
edges
are
in
what
we
should
or
shouldn't
be
doing
to
make
sure
that
people
are
water
wise.
I
you
know
I
and
again,
I
think,
where
there's
a
question
about
authority
do
is
that
authority
rest
with
us?
E
Can
we
structure
rates?
What
you
know
does
that
even
have
any
impact.
Q
Q
E
Yeah-
and
that's
so
I
guess
that
brings
me
to
another
question-
is:
if
we
pass
this
bill,
the
way
it
is
now
and
down
the
road,
we
find
a
variety
of
things
that
we
want
to
get
into
more
deeply
and
quote
unquote
reasonably
regulate.
Q
E
Right
because,
because
some
of
this
stuff
is
it
feels
like
it's
going
to
take
more
time
than
we
currently
have
to
get
some
basic
stuff
down.
E
Okay,
going
back
to
canopy
size,
I
mean
I,
I
still
I'm
waiting
to
hear
what
it
is
that
we
are
trying
what
policy
objective
we're
trying
to
get
at
by
regulating
cannabis
size,
and
I
think
that
that's
another
thing
that
gets
us
you
know:
we'd
have
to
have
people
who
go
out
and
measure
the
canopy
size
to
make
sure
that
whatever
it
is
that
we
wanted
was
happening
correctly.
The
way
we
said
it
could-
and
I
I
don't
know
what
the
feasibility
of
that
is.
E
E
There
I
and-
and
I
think,
to
counselor
cassette's
point
this
idea
that
maybe
the
economics
of
it
will
take
care
of
it
right
I
mean
I
don't
think
you're
gonna
be
a
producer
in
around
the
downtown
area
in
near
the
plaza
it's
just
too
expensive,
and
I
don't
know
if
there's
any
way
to
dial
in
better
the
economics
of
what
it
would
take
and
whether
this
I
mean
everybody
says:
oh
this,
this
industry
there's
so
much
money
here.
E
E
E
Has
anybody
looked
at
saint
mike's
and
and
the
saint
mike's
overlay-
and
you
know
we
had
specific
purposes
there-
that
that
we
wanted
to?
We
wanted
to
see
that
area
redeveloped
in
a
particular
way
and
what
impact
this
industry
and
our
regulations
has
currently
written,
have
in
meeting
our
objectives
around
the
st
michael's
overlay
or
in
what
way
this
new
industry
is,
is
going
to
be
problematic
to
our
objectives.
There
has
anybody
had
a
chance
to
look
at
that
is
there?
Is
that
something
to
be
concerned
about?
O
I
I
can
feel
that
mr
chair
counselors,
counselor
merworth.
Thank
you.
I
believe
they
have
looked
at
it.
I
don't
think
it
made
it
into
the
recommendations
that
we'd
have
to
circle
back
with
noah
to
get
more
information
on
that.
I
think
it's
a
good
question.
You
know
one
of
the
industrial
districts
is
on
the
periphery
of
that
zone.
You
know
at
the
at
pacheco
and
at
pacheco
and
san
mateo
2nd
street.
O
O
O
So,
thank
you.
So
the
you
know
the
the
downtown
area
will
mainly
be
you
know
affected
by
micro
businesses.
You
know
which
will
be,
you
potentially
will
be
allowed
downtown,
and
but
there
will
be
much
you
know
very
restricted
operations,
so
there
won't
be
a
major.
You
know
producer
moving
downtown
and
then
again
I
know
we
do
owe
you
that
zoning
map
for
the
industrial
and
vip
locations,
but
those
are
nowhere
near
downtown
again.
O
They're
basically
focused
on
the
you
know,
early
street
cerrios
that
that
zone
tyler
and
rufina,
and
then
you
know
down
by
the
airport.
Those
are
really
the
only
districts
where
large
production
will
be
allowed
under
this
bill
and
the
you
know
the
districts
that
are
on
cerrios
are
closer
to
downtown.
You
know:
they're
they're,
not
they're,
not
very
big
and
definitely
not
conducive
to
outdoor
growing
skills.
They
would
always
be
you
know,
I'm
assuming
they
would
be.
O
You
know
for
indoor
production,
and
so
the
way
that
the
canopy
could
be
used
is,
you
know,
to
you,
know,
restrict
those
areas
to
smaller
canopy
sizes,
and
then
you
know
amend
the
the
table
of
committed
uses,
as
it
has
not
been
again
the
the
reason
that
the
bill
has
been
presented
to
you.
The
way
it
is
is
that
all
those
permitted
uses
are
exactly
the
same
for
all
the
different
canopy
sizes,
so
we
reduced
that
to
micro,
micro
producers
and
producers.
O
If
we
wanted
to
expand
the
table
of
permitted
uses
not
expanded.
If
we
wanted
to,
you
know,
pull
out
different
categories
for
different
canopy
sizes.
That
would
be
a
way
to
manage
the
you
know
the
size
of
those
operations
you
know,
depending
on
the
area
of
town
again,
they
are
fairly
isolated
and
not
really
near
downtown.
E
So
does
that
mean-
and
there
seems
to
be
some
fear-
that
these
micro
businesses,
even
though
they're
micro
businesses
could
be
rather
large
in
scale
and
if
we
don't,
if
we
don't
put
a
canopy
size
on
a
micro
business
we.
This
is
where
I
got
this
idea,
because
it
was
suggested
to
me
that
this
micro
business
could
be
bigger
than
maybe
what
we
think
of
when
we
think
of
a
micro.
E
I
mean
I'm
thinking
a
micro
business
is
a
small,
a
pretty
small
operation,
a
small
business,
but
it's
been
suggested
that
you
know
if
we
don't
regulate
their
canopy
size.
We
could
have
this
huge
production
in
around
the
plaza
and
yet
to
me,
it's
like
okay,
well,
wait
economically!
Would
that
even
make
sense
to
the
to
the
earlier
point,
which
is:
wouldn't
you
go
out
where
land
values
are
less
expensive.
O
Right,
mr
chair
counselors
counselor,
or
that
I
believe,
that's
a
valid
point.
You
know
micro
businesses
are
limited
to
200,
mature
plants
and,
as
we
know,
and
maybe
andrea
could
inform
us
a
little
bit
about
the
size
that
you
know.
Mature
plants
can
vary
wildly
in
size.
So
I
think
that's
one
of
the
reasons
why
the
planning
commission
wanted
to
go
down
the
road
of
canopy
size
and
I
think,
the
to
your
point
I
believe
the
only
limiting
factor
would
be.
O
You
know
the
property
sizes
downtown
potentially,
but
I'm
sure
that
they,
you
know,
that's
something
that
maybe
the
we
could
get
feedback
on
the
industry
from
it.
Maybe
talk
to
the
planning
committee
policy
subcommittee
about
the
research
they
did
on
the
quote:
unquote
average
plant
size
mature
plant
size
again
andreas.
Is
there
anything
in
the
I
apologize?
If
I,
if
I
may,
I
believe
the
state
does
have
parameters
around
that.
P
I
so
they
they've
limited
plant
size.
I
mean
plant
numbers
in
the
micro
business
and
the
micro
business
is
it's
been
placed
in
the
statute
and
in
the
regulations
to
be
an
equity
piece,
and
so
I
think
that
talking
about
whether
a
canopy
size
is
going
to
be
huge
for
a
micro
business
seems
to
be
a
bit
of
undermining
but
social
equity
and
economic
equity.
P
These
licenses
are
the
smallest,
probably
the
most
inexpensive
licenses
you
could
obtain
and
while
we're
not
regulating
canopy,
they
are
regulating
size
in
the
sense
that
they're,
counting
mature
plants
versus
immature
plants
and
the
purpose
of
the
plants
and
the
growth
is
to
bring
it
to
market
meaning,
sell
it
so
growing.
Enormous
plants,
probably
isn't
the
intent
of
the
business,
but
I
don't
know
the
exact
measurements
of
plants
or
how
large
people
are
growing
them
or
what
the
intent
for
a
micro
business
producer
is.
P
P
There
are
certain
parts
of
our
society
that
have
been
affected
by
cannabis
regulation
and
so
in
order
to
have
justice
and
have
social
equity
to
make
these
licenses
cheaper
can
bring
those
individuals
who
might
have
been
affected
by
drug
regulations
into
this
business
should
they
want
to
start
in
this
business.
P
It's
also
important
to
note
that
this
is
mainly
a
cash
business,
and
so
you
know
there
are
banks
that
are
supporting
these.
You
know,
I
think,
there's
one:
maybe
that
does
make
loans,
so
this
is
all
about
creating
some
type
of
a
program
that
allows
people
to
enter
into
it.
So
I
can't
imagine
that
they'd
be
buying
huge,
expensive
buildings,
but
they
could
be
so
I
don't
want
to
state
that.
O
Thank
you,
andre
and
I'd
like
to
add
just
real
quick.
You
know
it
is.
It
is
within
the
governing
body's
power
to
control
the
canopy
size
for
micro
businesses.
The
limit
right.
You
know
that
we,
the
planning
commission
the
the
lower
limit,
was
2500
square
feet.
You
know
it
potentially
could
be
lower,
for
example,
for
micro
businesses.
E
Yeah-
and
I
guess
I
mean
what's
hard-
is
how
do
we
do
that
again
without
knowing
what
the
impact
of
what
we're
saying
is
so,
and
this
is,
I
think,
what
we're
waiting
for
from
somebody
is,
and
I
don't
know
where
it's
going
to
come
from
or
what
capacity
we
have
or
what
timeline
we're
working
on.
But
you
know
I
mean
we
could
say
right
now:
okay,
micro,
businesses
of
a
certain
canopy
size
cannot
operate
in
the
downtown
area.
E
The
problem
is,
I
have
no
idea
what
the
impact
of
that
saying
that
is,
making
that
kind
of
a
provision
and
is
it
and
to
you
know
the
city
attorney's
point.
If,
if
the
standard
is
reasonableness,
I
have
no
idea
whether
that's
a
reasonable
thing
or
not
a
reasonable
thing,
because
I
don't
know
what
it
means
to
the
industry.
E
I
mean
we
can
all
you
know.
We
can
all
be
scared
that
these
micro
businesses
are
going
to
be
larger
than
we
anticipate.
But
I
don't
know
I
don't.
I
don't
have
enough
information
to
know
again.
If,
if
we
were
to
say
that
right
now,
I'd
say
that
we
don't
want
them
and
you
know
we'll
just
pull
a
particular
canopy
size
out
of
the
air,
I
just
don't.
E
I
don't
know
what
the
impact
is,
and
I
don't
know
that
we're
gonna
know
in
the
next
two
weeks
week
and
a
half,
so
I
I
don't
know
I
guess
it's
maybe
a
frustration
and
it's
not,
and
it's
not
being
critical
of
anybody.
You
know
here
or
working
on
this.
It's
just
you
know
this.
Is
this
hurry
up
offense
we're
in
trying
to
get
something
on
the
on
the
books?
E
O
Mr
chair,
yes,
counselors
councilor
merrill
work.
Yes,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
we
are
looking
at
data
from
or
for
that
method
from
oregon,
new
jersey,
colorado
and
california.
O
We
don't
have
that
back
yet
I
apologize
noah's
out
of
town,
but
he
is
looking
into
that
and
then
also
gis
is
looking
into
how
we
could
measure
that
and
again
I,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
I
believe
it
will
be
complex,
but
I
think
there's
a
solution
there
and
I
think
it
could
be.
The
solution
that
I
mentioned
to
you
at
the
quality
of
life
meeting
potentially
knew
that
that
would
definitely
work.
O
Okay.
I
think
it
should
be
to
sorry
just
but
to
follow
my
own
point.
I
think
it
should
be
a
radius
measured
in
gis.
You
know
once
a
point
is
discovered
in
space
by
maybe
having
a
site
visit
for
two
points,
and
then
you
know
make
sure
those
are
determined
in
jazz
and
it's
always
done
the
same
way
across
the
board.
Q
Q
Some
and
then,
while
we
were
looking
at
a
different
comparison,
so
I
think
noah's
creating
a
list
of
comparative
cities.
E
Okay,
I
I
and
I'm
I'm
sorry
director
kluk,
I
didn't
unders.
I
didn't
understand
what
it
was.
You
were
saying
earlier
about
looking
at
other
states,
specifically
what
it
was
you
were
dialing
in
on
so
sorry.
E
Okay,
I
think
that's
all
I
have
for
now.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
H
Okay,
councilwoman
v
rael.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I,
since
we
got
the
amendments
from
staff
like
four
minutes
before
our
meeting
started,
I
was
wondering
if
counselor
garcia
could
tell
us
about
what
this
is.
Adding
I
mean
we
know
it
was
adding,
is
adding
the
piece
of
the
religious
institution
buffer,
but
I
I
wanted
to
hear
more
about
that
before
we
before.
I
have
other
questions.
A
Okay,
all
yes,
welcome,
counselor,
garcia.
S
Thank
you,
mr
chair
members
of
the
finance
committee,
I'm
in
the
same
boat
as
the
rest
of
you.
I
I
didn't
have
advanced
preparation
or
viewing
of
the
amendment,
but
the
overall
spirit
of
the
proposed
amendment
is
to
bring
it
in
alignment
with
the
way
we
treat
our
alcohol
cells
here
in
the
city
and,
as
I
mentioned
in
our
quality
of
life
committee
meeting
on
wednesday,
there
is
a
requirement
or
prohibition
to
have
any
alcohol
cells
within
300
feet
of
a
church
or
a
school.
S
So
I
just
wanted
to
keep
that
consistent,
and
so
that
is
the
intention
behind
this
part.
Part
of
that-
and
I
think
maybe
this
needs
to
be
added.
I
don't
know-
and
I
guess
need
to
speak
with
staff
about
this,
because
part
of
the
way
our
our
alcohol
licenses
are
regulated
is
that
there
is
a
gis
gis
map
that
staff
provides
indicating
whether
the
proposed
licenses
fall
within
those
300
feet,
and
so
that's
that
we
can.
We
currently
do
that
with
alcohol.
S
S
I
I
think
we
as
we
spoke
about
this
kind
of
topic
on
wednesday,
and
I'm
glad
that
we
were
finally
able
to
get
confirmation,
because
there
was
some
conflicting
info
in
regards
to
waivers
where
a
waiver
was
not
allowable,
a
waiver
was
allowable
and
I'm
glad
that
tonight
we
were
able
to
finally
get
the
confirmation
that
a
waiver
is
allowable,
because
I
think
that
should
be
a
sister
companion
to
this
amendment.
In
regards
to
that,
should
shouldn't
retail
establishment
cannabis,
retail
establishment
want
to
fall
within
those
300
feet
distance.
S
We
treat
it
the
same
as
we
do
as
alcohol.
They
work
with
any
surrounding
religious
institution
or
school
whatever
it
may
be.
To
get
that
waiver
approval,
I
mean
again
it's.
This
is
a
practice
and
policies
and
procedures
we
already
have
in
place
we're
not
creating
a
something
new
again.
I
think
this
is
just
in
the
spirit,
let's
treat
both
of
these
recreational
substances.
In
the
same
vein,
I
understand
that
the
establishments
that
are
currently
in
operation
will
be
grandfathered
in
so
they
won't
have
anything
to
worry
about.
S
It
would
only
affect
potentially
new
establishments.
So
with
that
being
said,
hopefully,
council,
rio,
real
councilwoman,
would
be
a
real
that
helps
to
provide
context.
As
I
mentioned,
I
can't
provide
much
more
as
I'm
still
kind
of
trying
to
digest
the
amendment
as
as
you
got
it,
because
I
think
I
got
it
about
4
30
as
well.
H
Okay,
thank
you,
council
gracia.
I
think
I'd
have
to.
I
need
to
look
at
the
amendment
closer,
and
the
map
will
also
help
me
make
that
determination
about
the
need
for
adding
religious
institutions,
so
I'll
probably
have
to
wait
on
this
one.
The
other
thing
that
I'm
still
confused
about
now
that
we
brought
this
up
again
is
I'm
not
understanding
waivers
because
we're
talking
about
establishments
that
are
there
doing
business
waivers
that
we
have
for
alcohol
is
the
you
know
for
special
events.
H
Yeah,
it's
a
whole
different.
It's
not
it's
about
consumption
which
we
haven't
defined
yet
so
we're
having
we're
talking
about
business,
retailers
and
being
located
within
300
feet
of
a
religious
institution
or
school
and
that
they
get
a
waiver
I
mean.
Can
you
explain
that
more
because
now
you're
seeing
the
supplies
and
I'm
wondering
if
aaron
can
clarify-
or
I
don't
know
I'm
confused
now
before
we
separated
them
in
our
meeting
now
we're
saying
they're
one
and
the
same.
These
are
two
different
activities.
S
Counts:
councilwoman
very
morale,
I'm
not
talking
about
consumption,
I'm
talking
about
the
establishment,
it's
in
general.
The
way
we
treat
liquor
cells
is
liquor
licenses.
You
have
to
have
a
license
to
sell
alcohol
and
to
obtain
that
license.
You
have
to
go
through
our
approval
process.
Part
of
that
approval
process
is
to
ensure
that
you're
not
within
300
feet
of
a
church
or
a
school
to
receive
the
liquor
license,
not
not
consumption,
not
a
bar.
S
S
I'm
talking
about
package
liquor,
not
not
going
to
go,
get
a
pint,
a
beer
so
to
speak,
and
not
not
short
term.
I'm
talking
long
term
part
of
that
there
is
a
waiver
process
included
in
that,
and
this
is
4-4.3
issuance
of
or
transfer
of,
liquor
licenses
in
our
city
code
and
in
particular,
a
two
talks
about
providing
the
gis
map
and
then
a3
talks
about
there's
the
opportunity
for
a
waiver.
H
H
Q
Yeah,
chairman
of
the
cancer,
our
councilwoman
via
it's
a
slight,
it's
a
part
d
of
4-4.3.
I
don't
know
if
we've
seen
very
many
of
them,
but
in
our
code
we
reference
the
state
statute,
which
does
provide
also
for
a
waiver
in
those
circumstances.
Q
Q
So
I
I
don't
know
that
I've
seen
I
mean
I
don't
know
if
I've
seen
one
either
for
that
type
of
location.
Although
council
lindell
looks
like
she
may
have
yeah.
I
I've
seen
a
fair
number
of
them
where
some
establishment
is
within
300
feet
and
within
our
packet.
It
used
to
be
that
we
would
have
better
from
the
institution
saying
that
they
have
no
objection
to
that
license
being
issued.
H
S
Councilwoman
real
the
way
its
current
amendment
is
currently
proposed.
It
is
only
for
retailers
not
for
grow
operations.
H
Okay-
and
that
applies
staff
that
applies
to
all
of
the
buffers
that
we're
talking
about
in
terms
of
schools.
That's
specifically
related
to
retailers,
not
producers
or
manufacturers.
H
And
then
just
to
clarify
in
your
map,
you
also
located
colleges,
but
colleges
are
not
part
of
the
educational
institution
factor.
I
thought
it
was
just
pr
daycare
and
k
through
12.
P
Care
about
that
counselor
via
l.
Yes,
you
are
correct.
Our
gis
map
included
all
schools.
We
can
ask
to
remove
the
colleges
and
currently
the
legislation,
as
proposed
talks
about
distance
from
preschool's
day
care,
centers
elementary
or
secondary
schools.
So
I
think
it
would
prohibit
us,
including
colleges,
so
we
will
ask.
H
To
remove
that
and
get
it
okay
that
just
threw
me
off
when
you
say
colleges
around
there
thinking
what
that
was
not
part
of
the
original.
So,
okay,
all
right!
Those
are
all
the
questions
I
have
and
I
think
I'll
wait
for
a
decision,
at
least
from
my
point
of
view,
to
wait
about
the
amendment
so
that
we
can
look
at
the
map
and
make
a
better
determination
based
on
what
was
given
to
us
a
little
bit
late.
Thank
you.
S
Mr
chair
members
of
the
finance
committee,
nothing
else
at
this
moment,
but
I'm
here
to
stand
for
any
questions.
If
any
of
the
committee
members
have
any
questions.
A
Second,
okay:
we
have
a
motion
to
move
forward
with
no
recommendation
that
has
been
seconded.
Is
there
any
discussion.
D
A
Okay,
so
that
concludes
the
items
that
were
withdrawn
from
the
consent
agenda.
Next
is
item
eight,
which
is
matters
from
staff.
C
A
Okay
and
miss
mccoy,
I
had
a
discussion
with
mr
anaya
also,
and
he
informed
me
and
confirmed
that
you
one
we
cannot
have
a
public
discussion
regarding
the
audit
until
the
state
releases
it,
and
so
that's
why
we
didn't
have
anything
on
our
agenda
this
evening.
A
He
said
it
usually
takes
around
a
week
or
so
for
the
state
to
do
that.
It
could
be
longer,
though,
so
I
don't
know
if
we
want
if
the
state
releases
it.
If
we
want
to
have
a
special
finance
committee
meeting
prior
to
the
governing
body
meeting,
which
is
already
next
week
or
are
we
gonna?
Should
we
just
have
the
audit
at
the
governing
body
next
week,
rather
than
trying
to
pull
together
a
special
finance
committee
meeting?
What
are
what
are
the
thoughts
of
the
finance
committee
members.
H
I
I
think
we
should
have
a
presentation
about
it.
I'm
I'm
not
sure
the
time
frame,
I'm
not
even
sure
why
it
was
submitted
to
osa
so
late.
So
I
just
think
it
would
be
helpful
for
me,
since
we
have
a
fiduciary
of
responsibility
for
audits
and
audits
fall
into
that
I'd
like
to
hear
it,
and
I
thought
we
were
going
to
hear
about
it
in
this
meeting.
H
But
since
we
have
to
take
that
time,
I
want
to
know
if
our
next
finance
meeting
will
have
a
presentation
from
the
auditors,
because
I
would
like
that
or
a
special
meeting
would
be
helpful
if
so,
that
other
counselors
could
be
part
of
that
discussion.
So
I
wanted
to
hear
from
staff
first
about
what
you
were
thinking.
C
Mr
chair
counselors,
we
also
have
to
present
the
external
audit
report
together
with
cla
to
the
audit
committee,
so
I
would
recommend
having
a
joint
audit
committee
finance
committee
meeting
as
a
special
session
outside
of
our
regular
two-week
calendar
for
finance
committee
meetings.
C
We
will
we
have
about,
I
think
three
or
four
finance
committee
meetings
left
in
the
calendar
year
of
2021
and
there's
going
to
be
a
significant
number
of
items
being
brought
forward
to
the
through
the
committee
process.
So
I
would
recommend
having
this
joint
meeting
at
a
special
session
where
all
of
the
governing
body
members
of
course
are
invited.
But
definitely
the
members
of
the
finance
committee
and
the
audit
committee.
H
C
The
next
audit
counselor,
the
next
audit
committee,
has
not
been
scheduled
at
this
point.
We
are
waiting
for
the
presentation
of
the
audit
in
order
to
schedule
that
meeting.
A
H
That
is
correct,
so
does
that
mean,
then
that
would
happen
in
the
month
of
september.
C
Mr
chair
counselor,
via
rail,
we
are
depending
on
the
audit
to
be
released
by
the
state
auditor's
office,
so
I
cannot
give
you
a
specific
date
right
now.
A
So
it's
depending
on
their
they're,
releasing
it
and
that's
again
mr
anaya
had
confirmed
that
to
me
that
yeah
we
can't
have
a
public
meeting
until
they
they
authorize
that
or
they
release
it.
But
if
they
release
it
next
week,
then
we
can
schedule
a
joint
meeting
with
the
finance
committee
on
the
the
audit
committee.
A
H
Okay
and
okay,
until
since
we
don't
know
that
time
frame
for
osc
to
release
it,
what
are
our
options
as
counselors?
We
can
directly
contact
the
auditors
and
have
a
individual
presentation
given
to
us.
C
Mr
chair
counselors,
yes,
that
is
a
possibility.
The
staff
from
cla
is
willing
to
sit
down
with
the
members
of
the
governing
body
and
review
the
audit
report
just
a
preliminary
from
preliminary
indications.
This
report
is
over
200
pages
and
does
contain
a
substantial
amount
of
financial,
complicated,
complex
financial
statements.
So
the
state
auditor
staff
is
willing
to
sit
down
and
review
that
with
each
of
the
members.
If
they
request
that
okay.
L
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
so
following
up
on
just
the
lateness
of
the
audit
this
year
and
moving
forward,
how
we
need
to
be
working
to
get
ourselves
back
on
track
onto
on-time
audits
and
ms
mccoy,
can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
we
need
to
be
doing
and
what
we
need
to
be
looking
at
as
a
finance
committee,
I
know
you
and
I
have
spoken
a
little
bit
about
positions
and
funding
and
those
pieces,
and
so
I
I
would
like
to
have
that
conversation
here
about
what
we
need
to
be
looking
at
to
really
assist
us
in
getting
back
on
track
for
on-time
audits,.
C
Mr
chair
counselor,
thank
you
for
that
question.
As
you
recall,
the
this
council
approved
an
additional
500
000
for
the
finance
department
and
other
city
departments
to
utilize
for
the
audit
preparation.
So
we
have
issued
a
request
for
proposals
to
be
able
to
utilize
that
funding
that
was
allocated
for
the
current
fiscal
year.
Our
target
is
always
the
december
15th
deadline
that
the
osa
sets
forward
in
the
state
audit
rule.
At
this
point
we
have
finished
fy
20,
we've
moved
on
to
the
fy
21
close.
C
A
lot
of
those
deadlines
have
already
passed
for
the
fy
last
fiscal
year's
close,
but
there
is
still
significant
amount
of
work
that
our
staff
has
to
do,
and
so
we
look
forward
to
awarding
the
through
the
rfp
process,
selecting
a
vendor
to
assist
us
with
the
audit
preparation
to
march
towards
that
december.
15Th
time
frame,
it
will
be
pretty
tight
to
be
able
to
meet
that
deadline,
but
that
is
our
goal.
L
C
For
that,
madame
mr
chair
councillor
kasowit,
we
expect
to
be
awarding
that
contract
within
the
next
few
weeks.
I
know
this
the
evaluation
committee's
in
the
final
stages
of
approving
that
contract,
perfect
and
then.
E
Councilwoman
merrell
worth
thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
I
guess
I
would
ask
perhaps
that
director,
mccoy
and
and
mr
chair,
perhaps
you
look
at
the
calendar
of
our
options.
I
I
worry
that
there's
a
lot
going
on
right
now
and
trying
to
squeeze
in
another
meeting,
I'm
looking
at
our
calendar.
Our
next
meeting
is
october,
4th,
which
I
guess
that's
two
weeks
from
today,
and
we
have
a
council
meeting
next
week.
E
I
mean
it
just
seems
like
I
I
I
mean
a
special
meeting
would
be
good,
but
I
we
are
all
already
committed
to
many
things
between
now
and
then
and
I
I
worry
that
there
isn't
a
window
to
squeeze
that
in
and
especially
since
we
don't
know
when
that
window
opens,
given
that
we
don't
know
when
the
state
will
release
it.
E
So
I
just
flagged
that
as
there's
not
you
know,
it
may
be
that
the
next
meeting
on
october,
4th
is,
is
what
we
have
to
work
with,
just
because
of
the
short
time
frame,
and
you
know,
we've
got
council
meetings
and
other
meetings
across
the
city
going
on.
So
just
flagging.
That
thanks,
mr
chair.
A
Okay,
then
anything
else
from
staff.
A
Okay,
thank
you
matters
from
the
committee
councilwoman
cassette.
L
L
All
right,
I
apologize
prime
gov,
as
we
all
know,
does
not
move
as
fast
as
I
would
like
it
to
so.
This
is
being
introduced
by
counselor
garcia,
but
as
he
is
not
a
sitting
member
on
the
committee,
I
will
speak.
I
will
reintroduce
this
on
his
behalf.
It
is
an
ordinance
amending
section,
9-1.7,
santa
fe
city
code
1987,
regarding
ranked
choice,
voting
to
amend
how
the
how
a
thai
vote
between
two
candidates
is
resolved,
and
that
is
all.
A
Okay,
anything
else
from
the
committee
matters
from
the
chair.
The
only
thing
I
have
is
that
our
next
meeting
is
monday
october,
4th
2021,
with
that
we.