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A
B
Good
afternoon
everyone
counselor
carol
romero
worth
I'm
here:
counselor
sidney
lindell
here,
councillor
renee
vieiram,
present
counselor
jamie
cass
at
sanchez
here
and
counselor
romana.
A
Here,
okay,
we
have
a
quorum,
we
have
approval
of
the
agenda.
We
are
gonna
here
where
we
left
off
yesterday
from
the
public
works
department,
specifically
the
buckman
direct
diversion
and
then
after
that,
our
other
action
item
that
we
have
on
our
agenda
is
approval
of
the
operating
budget
for
fiscal
year.
2020
2021..
A
Is
there
a
motion
regarding
the
agenda
move
to
approve?
Second,
second,
okay,
can
I
have
a
roll
call?
Please.
C
A
Okay,
so
when
this
item
was
postponed
last
week,
there
were
several
issues
that
came
up.
I
will
try
to
summarize
them,
and
then
we
can
maybe
get
a
short
response
from
the
either
mr
jones
or
whoever
he
designates.
And
then
we
could
get
into
questions
from
the
committee,
but
there
was
there's
a
it's.
The
budget
is
6.4
million
dollars
or
a
23
increase,
and
so
something
that
was
asked
for
were
historical
numbers,
historical
budgets
versus
actual.
A
A
There
was
also
some
questions
regarding
the
city's
role
in
the
management
of
the
bdd
and
then,
of
course,
we're
dealing
with
a
covert
year
budget
in
a
process,
a
budget
process
during
covid,
and
so
it
would
be
good
to
hear
what
historically,
how
this
budget
has
been
adopted
as
it
relates
to
the
the
larger
budget.
D
Mr
chair
members
of
the
finance
committee,
thank
you.
If
you
don't
mind
I'll,
just
briefly
go
over
the
arrangement
of
information
that
was
put
together
in
order
to
attempt
to
answer
any
questions,
we
do
have
facility
manager,
rick,
carpenter,
who's,
also
on
the
panel
along
with
mackie
romero,
the
fiscal
manager
there
bdd.
D
Thank
you
for
going
back
over
some
of
the
questions.
I
I
know
that
sometimes
the
details
get
kind
of
complex,
but
ultimately
the
information
that
was
provided
was
an
overview
of
the
contractual
relationship
between
the
city
and
county.
That's
that's
page,
two
of
the
packet
talks
about
the
agreements
and
how
costs
are
allocated
really
kind
of
defining
some
terms
like
what's
a
shared
facility.
D
What's
a
project-wide
facility
again
get
into
the
details,
that's
what
determines
what
portion
the
partners
pay
right
for
that
type
of
service
that
also
carries
on
onto
peach.
D
Are
you
reading
from
I'm?
I'm
sorry
because
we
were
out,
I
sent
out
an
email
to
individual
council
members
on
friday,
saturday,
okay,
and
I
believe
I
think,
remember
worth
I'd
also
seen-
have
forwarded
that
attachment.
So
I'm
referring
to
the
attachment
that
was
in
that
email
and
I
can-
and
I
can
send
that
again.
F
D
And-
and
I
I
could
share
the
screen,
but
I
know
I
don't
want
this
to
be
the
first
time
people
are
seeing
the
information
I
I
apologize.
Counselor
viral
you
were
left
off
the
original
memo,
I'm
sorry
the
original
email
and
I
think,
just
a
few
hours
later.
I
sent
it
just
to
you
individually
and
then
I
know
the
next
morning
romero
answered
america
sent
it
again
because
she
realized
that
you
were
not
on
that.
E
D
So
then,
on
to
page
three,
then
it
talks
about
the
the
budget
process
kind
of
once
we
come
out
of
the
agreement
and
why
the
city
is
the
project
manager,
I'm
not
going
into
the
details,
because
I
know
that
you
can
read
that
and
we
are
available
for
questions,
but
I
won't
be
sensitive
to
your
time
so
again.
D
On
page
three
of
the
the
memo
that
was
sent
kind
of
describes
the
bdd
process
right
that
that
bdd
staff
prepares
a
budget,
the
intent
would
be
is
that
staff
would
meet
with
the
partners,
and
I
know
these
meetings
occur.
These
meetings
occur
throughout
the
whole
year.
Bdd
staff,
I
think,
has
a
great
working
relationship
with
the
partners
and
the
key
players
through
that
communication,
but
ultimately
regarding
the
budget
that
that
the
partners
would
be
involved
in
the
development.
D
So
again,
the
partners
know
exactly
what's
being
presented
to
the
board
once
the
bdd
board
approves
and
sends
for
recommendation.
So
it's
our
intent
to
have
that
before
the
board.
I
would
say
I
think
in
december
is
when
it's
required
to
have
that
before
the
board
to
kind
of
go
through
a
discussion
process,
ultimately
with
the
target
of
having
that
approved
and
recommended
by
the
bdd
board
around
february.
D
Then
at
that
point
the
partners,
mainly
the
city
and
county,
would
take
that
portion
and
incorporate
it
into
their
utility
budgets
as
they're
going
into
budget
developments
so
for
the
city's
portion
that
would
be
included
in
the
budget
like
it.
Is
that
we're
seeing
today
and
then
we'll
go
before
the
city
council
once
that
is
approved,
then
the
budget
would
be
returned
back
to
the
wdd
board
for
ratification
and
acceptance
to
start
their
fiscal
year.
D
D
D
So
what
portions
of
the
projects,
where
they're
at
spatially,
what
bonus
they
are
and
again
you
can
see
the
percent
breakdown
of
cost
for
each
one
of
those
those
segments
and
then
page
five.
We
did
put
together
a
sheet
of
budget
to
actuals,
looking
at
actuals
for
three
years,
the
base
budget
and
then
the
the
recommended
budget
that
went
to
the
bdd
board
and
correct
me.
If
I'm
wrong
on
that,
but
page
five
is
showing
that
the
recommended
budget
is
recommended
by
the
bbd
board.
D
I
think
thank
you
mikey,
so
so
the
recommended
budget
is
what
staff
I'm
sorry
is
what
the
water
division
is
recommending.
D
D
D
And
then,
on
page,
seven
mackie
was
able
to
provide
a
more
detailed
summary
kind
of
breaking
down
what
the
repair,
maintenance
of
systems
and
equipment
contractual
cost
of
the
supply
categories.
D
Moving
to
page
eight
talks
more
about
those
are
contracts
broker
to
the
agreement,
contracts
with
federal
agencies,
state
agencies
really
just
a
lot
of
details
on
on
what
that
I'll
say
what
that
money
is
spent
on
right.
What
are
the
services
that
we're
buying
and
then
the
last
page
page
eight
continues
that
with
actual
revenues,
meaning
what
is
what
is
paid
to
and
then
how
those
expenditures
are
broke
up
into
those
categories.
D
Again,
this
this
packet
was
put
together
and
it's
an
attempt
to
answer
any
kind
of
some
of
the
questions
that
were
coming
out.
The
project
I
think,
if
I
could,
I
can
kind
of
summarize
where
we're
at
today
is
bdd-
did
develop
its
budget
on
time
right
in
december,
I
went
to
the
board.
D
They
forwarded
it
with
the
recommendation
that
budget
was
included
in
the
water
division's
budget
and
ready
for
submittal
and
then
really
due
to
really
the
pandemic,
and
some
of
some
of
the
stuff
that
we've
been
going
through
the
last
few
months.
D
Target
reductions
right
were
pushed
to
the
divisions
on
how
they
achieved
that
part
of
the
work
that
the
water
division
did
to
achieve.
Its
targets
was
recommending
a
reduction
in
the
bdd's
budget,
mainly
driven
on
budget,
to
actuals,
again
anywhere
that
I
could
reduce
budget
without
cutting
service.
That
was
that
was
our
first
and
foremost.
Priorities
is
being
able
to
do
that.
D
That
recommended
budget
did
get
incorporated
into
the
project
into
the
budget
process
and
was
what
was
being
discussed
so
right
now
there
is
a
difference
between
what
the
bdd
board
has
recommended
to
to
the
city
to
approve
and
a
recommendation
from
staff
trying
to
align
the
water
division
with
its
budgeted
targets.
D
With
that.
Mr
chair,
we're
happy
to
stand
for
questions
and
would
like
to
turn
it
back
over
to
the
committee.
Thank
you,
mr
jones.
Councilwoman
romero
worth.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
so
shannon
I
just
want
to
be
clear.
On
page
it's
the
page
after
the
map,
my
pages
aren't
numbered.
So
it's
one,
two
three,
four
five:
the
budget
to
actuals
the
fy
2021
recommended
budget
is
the
city
staff's
recommended
budget,
not
the
budget
that
was
recommended
by
bdd,
correct.
D
That
is,
that
is
correct.
Okay,.
F
So
so
we
have
so
we
have
an
issue
so
just
to
make
sure
I'm
understanding
this.
So
in
december
you
go
to
staff
and
you
figure
out
what
the
budget
is
then
bd.
So
then
you
bring
that
to
the
bdd
board.
The
bdd
board
approves
that
budget
as
a
recommendation
to
go
back
to
the
city
and
the
county
for
their
approval.
So
the
county
commission
approves
it.
F
F
You
you
met
with
staff.
In
december,
you
went
to
the
bdd
board,
the
bdd
board
passed
a
recommendation
and
then
because
of
the
covid
shut
down
and
because
of
covet
related
shutdowns
and
then
because
the
city
is
in
a
budget
crisis,
we
have
not
approved
what
the
bdd
board
had
recommended
to
the
city,
so
we're
a
little
behind
right.
F
Okay,
and
so
what's
before
us
today,
are
the
changes
that
were
recommended
by
city
staff
because
of
our
budget
problems,
and
they
also
in
this
document
on
page
five
show
how
everybody's
contribution
would
be
lowered
under
these
new
budget
numbers
so
correct.
Let's
just
take
this
one
step
at
a
time.
F
Okay,
so
we
each
so
if
you
go
to
the
map
right-
and
it
says-
and
this
has
been
an
issue
brought
up-
I
think
in
this-
in
these
finance
committee
hearings
and
at
the
bdd
board,
this
idea
that
if
the
city
is
going
to
contribute
less,
they
should
take
less
water,
but
the
way
this
is
working
out
is
the
city
covers
sixty
percent
of
the
project,
wide
costs,
the
county,
thirty
percent
and
los
campanas
ten
percent,
and
what
these
budget
figures
that
we
have
here
reduce
the
contribution
of
all
the
partners
and
stay
in
line
with
the
percentages
that
are
outlined
according
to
the
various
agreements
that
we
have
right.
F
Yeah,
so
so
this
idea
that
that
the
city
of
santa
fe
should
take
less
water.
If
we
were
to
approve
what
the
city
is
recommending,
doesn't
quote,
unquote:
hold
water
right
because
we've
reduced
everybody's
percentages
by
the
same
amount
and
we're
in
line
with
the
agreements
again,
those
being
that
sixty
percent
we,
the
city,
covers
sixty
percent
of
the
project,
wide
cost,
the
county,
30
percent
and
los
capanus
10.
F
D
Yes,
that
that
is
correct.
Okay,
so
I
apologize.
I
don't
know
if
mikey
wants
to
add
a
little
bit
because
again
so
budgeted
number
again.
The
budget
is
just
money
set
aside
right
to
meet
a
projected
cost
of
the
project,
as
as
the
bdd
goes,
it
actually
builds
the
partners
actual
cost,
as
it
goes,
and
so
so
project
wide
shared
facilities,
some
fixed
and
variable
costs,
so
your
water
use
does
affect
your
percentage.
D
I
think,
historically
I'd
be
surprised
if
it
moves
at
more
than
one
or
two
percent
historically,
but
ultimately,
when
we're
looking
at
the
budget
is
what
percent
of
the
actual
expenditures
that
bdd
would
build
the
partners
for,
and
so
so,
even
though
there's
an
approved
budget,
whatever
the
cost
of
bdd
is
that
gets
allocated
to
the
partners
for
for
payment.
G
G
So
I
send
out
the
partners
provide
a
a
projected
amount
of
water
that
they're
going
to
take
for
the
year
and
that's
the
number
that
I
use
to
develop
the
budget
for
project
wide
cost
and
for
variable
costs,
and
I
think
what
you're
seeing
counselor
romero
worth
is
that
those
percentages
did
not
get
affected.
You
are
correct
with
the
reduction
of
the
budget.
G
Those
percentages
still
stay
the
same,
so
the
amount
of
water
that
the
city
projected
to
take
in
2021
remained
because
we
cut
the
budget
over
all
the
whole
budget,
and
so
the
reduction
was
not
only
for
the
city
but
for
the
other
partners.
As
far
as
the
water
numbers,
the
projected
water
delivery
numbers
remain
the
same.
F
I
I
I
just
wanna,
so
that's
helpful,
because
I
think
I
wanna
address
this
issue
that
somehow
the
city
should
take
less
water
because
we're
contributing
less
we're,
not
contributing
less
we're
in
effect
adjusting
the
budget
as
a
whole
for
all
the
partners.
So
we
can
put
that
concern
to
to
rest
correct,
correct,
okay,
so
so
that's
the
first
point.
I
just
wanted
to
make
second
to
go
to
shannon's
point
this,
this
other
graph,
where
we're
looking
at
historic
budget
to
actuals
or
budget
to
expenses.
F
F
F
So
I
I
also
want
to
put
to
rest
this
idea
that
somehow,
by
changing
the
numbers,
we
are
going
to
make
the
facility
unsafe
or
we
are
not
going
to
be
able
to
to
produce
safe
drinking
water,
because
we
can
see
here
that
what
it
costs
to
run
the
facility
and
produce
safe
water
is
well
below.
D
Mr
chair
counselor
worth
I
again,
I
would
say
that
that
is
accurate.
We
over
project.
F
G
So
I
can
take
that
mr
chair
and
members
of
the
committee-
and
that
is
bdd's
goal
every
year,
is
to
try
to
close
that
gap
between
actuals
and
budget,
as
you
can
see
from
2012.
We've
definitely
gotten
better
at
that,
because
our
because
we
use
these
percentages
to
project
the
budget,
it
makes
it
really
difficult
to
determine.
G
You
know
what
partner
percentage
the
partners
are
going
to
take,
especially
because
a
lot
of
it
is
driven
on
actual
water
deliveries.
That
is
always
the
goal
we
do
have
in
the
past.
We've
had
vacancies
that
that
also
causes
us
to
not
spend
a
lot
of
the
budget,
but
we
do
always
readjust
we.
I
build
the
budget
from
zero,
I
don't
go.
I
don't
do
this
model
of
a
base
budget
and
then
increase
from
there.
G
F
I
don't
know
that
there's
blame
here.
I
just
you
know
there.
There's
complexity,
I
guess
is,
is
the
thing
but,
but
I
also
want
to
you
know,
make
the
point
that
again
we're
producing
safe
water,
we're
budgeting
more
than
our
expenses.
F
The
fact
that
the
city
given
its
financial
crisis
needs
to
bring
these
numbers
down
a
little
bit,
we're
not
putting
the
facility
in
jeopardy
and
in
fact-
and
you
know,
we've
gotten-
we've
got
money
that
we're
budgeting
or
encumbering
we're
not
able
to
do
what
we
need
to
do
on
our
side,
because
we've
got
money.
That's
that
we've
said.
Oh,
you
can't
spend
it
because
it's
it's
it's
put
aside,
it's
encumbered
over
here.
So
when
you're
in
a
budget
crisis
right,
you
don't
want
to
you
don't
want
to.
F
F
G
All
right
chickens,
yeah,
I
I
mean
I
agree
with
you.
I
I
understand,
but
yes,
the
we
are
not
the
reduction
does
not
affect
it's
not
going
to
affect
and
our
drinking
water
and
our
standards.
So
I
do
your
statements.
F
All
right,
so
I
think,
what's
in
front
of
us
today,
then
is
I
mean
this
has
been
a.
This
has
been,
I
think,
helpful
exercise,
I
I
know
you
know
I'm
a
member
of
the
bdd
board.
That's
been
helpful
to
have.
I
think
the
city
council
and
this
in
the
finance
committee
understand
the
nature
of
this
board,
that
it
is
an
independent
board
that
that
the
bdd
is
is
there
are
lots
of
agree,
legal
agreements
that
govern
how
it
operates
and
how
we
share
the
facility,
the
costs
and
the
water?
F
And
all
of
that.
So
I
think
this
is
all
very
educational.
I
think
it's
also
been
educational
in
just
in
the
budgeting
of
stuff
and
understanding.
F
You
know
where
we
need
to
continue
to
pay
attention,
which
is
you
know
the
tension
again
between
how
macky
builds
the
budget
from
from
a
zero
from
zero
and
and
and
how
you
know
how
that's
working
with
the
you
know
the
historical
numbers
and
the
fact
that
we
are
over
budgeting
from
from
what
our
actuals
are
and
and
just
understanding
that
tension
and
trying
to
get
that
to
narrow,
as
as
we
move
forward.
F
So
I
don't
know,
I
guess
the
other
thing
that
I
think
we
need
to
pay
attention
to
long
term,
and
and
it's
not,
it
doesn't
really
show
up
in
our
materials.
I
don't
think
mackie
unless
you
can
show
it
where,
where
I
would
see
it,
but
this
facility
is
expensive
in
the
sense
that
there's
a
lot
of
overtime
that
is
accrued
by
our
by
the
employees
of
the
bdd.
Is
that
correct?
Is
there
anywhere?
Is
there
anywhere
where
that
stands
out
in
the
stuff
that
we
have.
G
So
the
materials
that
you
were
provided,
it's
all
mingled
under
salaries
and
benefits,
but
you
are
correct
in
the
past
we
spent
a
lot
of
money
on
overtime
and
I
think
most
of
that
was
due
to
you
know
vacant
positions.
I
think
in
2018
we
have,
you
know
almost
11
vacant
position.
G
We
are
almost
fully
staffed
and
I
know
our
operations
section
is
is
now
fully
staffed
and
I
know
our
operations.
Superintendent
is
definitely
looking
at
that
and
trying
to
come
up
with
creative
ways
to
look
at
the
schedule
and
hopefully
reduce
that
in
the
future.
I
don't
know
if
mr
carpenter
shouldn't
want
to
say
anything
more
about.
H
Sorry,
I'm
trying
to
unmute
yeah
mackie's
correct.
We
have
staffed
the
operations
section
in
a
way
through
the
years
that
has
been,
we
believe
pretty
functional,
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
that's
the
way
it
always
should
be
going
forward,
and
so
I
will
be
working
with
the
water
division
director
and
with
our
operational
superintendent,
to
look
at
alternative
ways
to
perhaps
schedule
those
hours
and
reduce
some
of
that
over
time.
F
Okay-
and
I
I
just
want
to
point
that
out,
because
I
think
that's
something
that
the
finance
committee
needs
to
keep
an
eye
on,
and
I
think
you
know
it's
something
that
the
bdd
board
will
also
need
to
keep
an
eye
on
going
forward,
especially
now
that
the
facility
is
fully
staffed
and
just
understanding.
F
You
know,
what's
necessary
to
be
running
that
facility
and
and
how
we
go
about
doing
it.
So
I
I
just
want
to
flag
that
for
our
attention
as
a
longer
term
area
that
we
all
need
to
be
paying
attention
to.
F
So
I
think
you
know
those
were
the
questions.
I
had
the
things
that
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
that
we
underline
and
and
and
provide
information
on.
I
think
you
know
it's
a
the
question
for
us
is
whether
we
you
know
so
so
we
have.
Basically,
we
have
two
sets
of
numbers
out
here.
We've
got
what
the
bdd
board
provided
and
we've
got
what
our
city
staff
provided.
F
A
A
Well,
I
guess
I
could
look
at
the
page
before
we
would
still
be
over
if
I'm
looking
at
the
page
before
that,
because
if
you
look
at
their
actual
expenditures
for
last
year,
they
were
8.5
million
the
year
before
7.7
the
year
before
that
6.6,
so
even
at
8.5
we're
still
proposing
more
than
that.
We're
proposing
9.2
right,
total.
A
G
So
so,
mr
chair
members
of
the
committee,
I'm
sorry
I
don't
mean
to
make
this
more
confusing,
but
the
recommended
budget
here
is
a
revised
that
bdd
staff
did
the
one
that
the
the
city
has
in
their
budget
is
actually
much
more
of
a
reduction
it
brings.
I
think
they
only
wanted
to
contribute
about
6
million
11
809,
and
so
that
was
a
way
bigger
reduction.
G
This
was
the
one
that
staff
had
prepared
that
we
felt
like
we
could
actually
do,
which
was
this
nine
nine
million
two
hundred
and
eighty
thousand
so
there's
actually
three
budgets
just
to
be
included.
A
G
A
Okay,
so,
but
how
difficult
is
it
ms,
mccoy
or
shannon
as
we
progress
through
the
year?
If
we
see
that
this
litigation,
because
the
the
opposite
sometimes
happens
with
litigation
too
or
things
get
stalled
out?
And
you
don't
end
up
spending
a
lot
of
money
that
you
thought
because
of
the
delay
in
the
system
or
whatever
was
going
on
with
the
lawsuits.
So
my
question
is:
how
difficult
would
it
be,
ms
mccoy
to
put
money
into
the
budget
if
we
start
seeing
a
shortfall
or
gonna
run
into
a
shortfall?
A
I
Chair,
we
would
have
to
bring
forward
a
budget
adjustment
both
to
the
finance
committee,
as
well
as
to
the
governing
body
for
a
vote,
so
that
would
take
about
that's
about
a
two-week
process.
D
It
comes
from
the
water
divisions,
operating
cash.
A
Which
we
have
plenty
of
so
there's
not
going
to
be
a
situation
where,
if
we
have
to
do
this,
and
even
though
it
does
take
two
weeks,
it
won't
be
a
situation
where
we're
having
to
cut
anywhere
else,
because
it
was
so
so
tight
trying
to
fit.
You
know
trying
to
balance
this
budget
because
of
the
source
is
that
right,
miss
mccoy.
F
A
Right
and
what
I'm
talking
about
is
if
we
go
what
what
bdd
is
recommending
now,
the
revised
recommendation
is
9.2,
which
would
be
6.4
from
us
and
then
what?
But
what
the
city
is
recommending
is
less,
which
would
bring
the
total
budget
to
8.8,
which
is
still
more
than
their
actual
expenses.
Last
year
by
300,
000.
F
Yeah-
and
I
guess
the
only
the
only
thing
I
would
say
is
to
your
point
about
the
litigation
costs
this.
This
lawsuit
is
supposed
to
go
to
trial
in
this
fiscal
year.
So
I
think-
and
I
I
think
I
don't
know
we
might
want
somebody
to
weigh
in
but
litigation
costs
I
think,
tend
to
go
up
not
down,
which
would
argue
that
maybe
we
should
go
with
the
bdd
recommended
numbers.
A
Okay,
councilwoman
cassette
sanchez.
J
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
do
we
have
a
copy
of
the
city
recommended
budget
anywhere
that
we
can
look
at
because
it's
really
hard
to
be
making
these
decisions?
When
I
can't
be
comparing
these
two
budgets?
Unless
is
the
only
difference
in
the
recommended
budget
from
bdd
to
the
city?
Is
the
only
is
it
only
the
litigation
cost
or
is
there
other
differences?
A
A
J
And
then,
while
we're
waiting
for
that,
I'm
sorry,
mr
chair,
you
had
asked
about
the
fund
mary.
I'm
so
sorry
can
you
repeat
what
you
had
said
about
where
the
funding
would
come
from
if
we
pass
a
more
stringent
budget
to
begin
with
and
then
see
that
it's
not
going
to
be
enough,
that
would
come
from
the
water
fund.
Correct.
J
F
F
I
I
don't
know,
I
think
that's
that's
the
tricky
piece
here
is
that
it
is
a
litigation
year
and
you
know
maybe
maybe
it
does
make
sense
to
go
with
the
bdd
numbers.
A
I
I'm
I'm
I'm
thinking
the
same
thing
like
because
of
the
lawsuit
and
then
maybe
after
we
get
put
this
lawsuit
behind
us.
We
can
take
a
look
in
future
years
of
how
we
can
close
that
gap
and
I
think,
and
then
plus.
I
think
there
also
has
to
be
ongoing
discussion
about
the
scheduling
and
the
built
in
eight
hours
of
overtime
that
might
be
able
to
bring
that
gap
down
too.
F
But
I
think,
but
I
think
this
has
been
important,
because
I
think
we
are
all
much
more
aware
of
the
governance
structure
around
the
bdd.
We
are
much
more
aware
of
some
of
the
the
legal
agreements
between
the
between
and
among
the
partners
and
we're
aware
we're
much
more
aware
of
the
tension
between
the
different
methodologies
and
budgeting,
and
so
this
is
all
really
important
long
as
we
go
forward.
F
So
this
has
been.
This
has
been.
You
know,
I
I
think
a
worthwhile
conversation
and
you
know,
as
often
happens
in
budget
crisis.
You
know
we.
We
really
take
a
hard
look
at
how
we
spend
money
and
and
how
we
budget
money
and
we
learn
things
and
we
do
things
differently,
and
this
has
been,
I
think,
a
good
exercise.
So.
A
I
I
agree:
councilwoman
cassette
sanchez,
do
you
see
the
is
it
on
your
screen
and
I
would
say,
mr
jones,
it's
the
item.
That's
highlighted,
like
that's
in
blue
or
gray.
J
Right
yeah,
I
do
see
that
it's,
but
it's
the
aggregate,
it's
not
really
the
breakdown
of
what
that
difference
would
look
like
from
the
bdd.
So
where
I
guess
my
question
would
be
is
what
line
items
are
really
would
be
impacted
by
the
city's
recommended
budget
versus
the
bdd
reduced,
recommended
budget.
G
So,
mr
chair
members
of
the
committee,
I
I
did
put
together
that
schedule
for
the
bdd
board
that
I
give
me
a
minute.
I
can
look.
I
can
put
it
on
the
screen.
It
was
presented
to
the
board
in
june,
but
to
get
the
city
to
that.
Six
million
dollar
number,
like
I
said,
bdd,
had
to
cut
its
budget
by
1.4
million
dollars
and
that
included.
So
I
can
show
you
what
that
looks
like
that.
I
did
present
to
the
board.
F
F
J
I
mean
also
to
that
point.
You
know.
We've
talked
a
lot
about
how
this
is
going
to
be
a
very
different
year
in
terms
of
our
budgeting,
we're
going
to
be
doing
a
lot
of
budget
adjustments
and
I'm
not
sure
because
of
the
you
know,
complex
nature
of
bdd,
but
if
we
are
moving
forward
with
this
budget
and
we're
noticing
that
we
are
not
on
track
to
spend
as
much
as
we
have
budgeted,
you
know.
A
So
on
that
point,
that
that's
a
good,
that's
a
good
question.
So
what
happens
as
we
go
along
in
the
years
because
like
if
we
go
to
that
budget
page
the
the
budget
for
the
revenues
that
were
proposed
last
year
or
so
so
what
happens
when
they
don't
meet
their
their
expenses?
Don't
meet
the
revenue,
what
happens
to
that
extra
revenue
or
we
build
throughout
the
year,
so
we
just
stop
getting
build
or
where
we
build
for
less.
G
Mr
chair
members
of
the
committee
you're
correct
so
you're
you're,
billed
based
on
actuals
and
whatever
money
bdd
does
not
get
from
the
partners.
Just
goes
back
back
to
the
partners,
respective
funds.
G
So
the
bills
they
vary,
the
fix
are
done.
Monthly
or
quarterly
project
wide
are
done
at
the
end
of
the
year,
because
that's
based
on
annual
water
usage-
and
so
I
don't
know
the
annual
water
usage
to
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year,
so
there's
several
bills
that
get
sent
to
the
partners
throughout
the
year.
A
Okay,
so
if
we,
if
we
approve
the
the
the
recommended
like
the
middle,
the
compromise
which
is
9.2,
we
may
not
even
get
billed
for
that
total
amount.
So
it's
not
like
we're
shifting
money
over
tomorrow
or
whenever
the
budget
gets
approved,
and
then
we
better
use
it
or
else
we
lose
it
or
it
goes
into
cash
savings,
it's
actually
to
build
on
actuals.
So
am
I
correct.
A
Okay,
councilwoman
cassette
sanchez:
does
that
help.
A
J
G
K
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
I
wanted
to
say,
or
just
remind
everyone,
I'm
not
speaking
in
my
council
role
but
as
chair
of
bdd
and
on
behalf
of
the
bdd
board.
I
want
to
say
that
you
know.
I
think
this.
This
exercise
in
bringing
the
bdd's
budget
before
the
finance
committee
and
ultimately
before
the
city
council
is,
is
a
good
one.
K
It's
one
in
which
the
board
has
been
talking
about
for
for
some
time,
and
I
I
believe
it
came
as
a
result
of
the
board
feeling
like
it
wasn't
consulted
on
things
and
such
and
so
there's
nothing.
No,
no
other
better
way
than
to
help
help
public
servants
and
the
public
understand
how
the
budgeting
works.
It
is
a
very
complex
situation
and
it's
one
in
which
there
obviously
are
three
partners
and
each
one
has
their
own
set
of
opinions
about
how
things
should
run.
K
But
I
think
the
first
step
is
to
have
this
communication
to
understand
what
the
statutory
requirements
are
of
the
board,
how
it
was
set
up.
The
the
several
items
that
the
board's
attorney
nancy
long
presented
at
the
very
beginning
of
the
the
bdd
board
budget.
K
Last,
whenever
we
started
this,
I
can't
remember,
but
I
think
this
does
accomplish
a
good
understanding
of
how
things
are
developed,
how
the
monies
work
and
the
litigation
costs
are
something
that
that
is,
that
can
be
somewhat
planned
on
and
whether
they
go
up
or
down.
Who
knows,
but
I
think
it's
a
good
idea
that
you
know
we
we
invoice
based
on
expenses,
although
we
do
have
a
contract
with
the
attorney
law,
firm,
that's
representing
bdd
and
those
contracts
have
to
be
adhered
to.
K
I
am
hopeful
that
hopeful
that
we
wouldn't
need
to
spend
all
this
money.
Hopefully
there
would
be
some
resolution
in
the
coming
in
the
coming
year.
Well,
the
year
we're
in,
but
even
up
to
next
year
we
don't
know,
but
I
think,
we're
being
very
adequately
represented,
probably
more
than
adequate,
and
the
board
is
satisfied
with
that.
K
But
I
appreciate
miss
mccoy
allowing
the
bdd
budget
to
be
presented
on
its
own.
I
appreciate
the
discussion
that
you
all
have
allowed
bdd
members
and
staff
to
have
and
the
bdd
meets
next
week.
Actually,
we
will
be
taking
the
budget
discussion
back
to
them
and
whether
it
goes
to
the
county,
I
think
it
well.
It
depends
on
which
budget's
approved
by
the
council
ultimately,
but
if
it's
different
it
has
to
go
back
to
the
to
the
partners.
K
So
I'm
not
envisioning
that
there's
going
to
be
a
long,
a
long
discussion
or
changes
about
it.
But
it's
something!
That's
that's!
In
the
process.
I
will
reiterate.
K
Mackie
romero's
points
that
we
have
had
a
big
shortage
of
employees
over
the
last
year,
many
vacancies
at
once,
and
it
it's
very
in
light,
it's
very
encouraging
that
the
the
vacancies
have
been
filled
and
hopefully
the
overtime
costs
definitely
can
go
down.
Because
of
that,
so
things
are
looking
good
in
the
employment
side
of
bdd.
K
I
believe
that
the
board
also
understands
and
recognizes
that
we
get
great
assistance
from
public
utilities
from
shannon
and
jesse,
and
certainly
from
our
director,
rick
carpenter
and
and
maggie
mackie
romero's
budgeting
skills.
She
keeps
the
board
in
line
every
month.
We
talk
about
budget,
so
I
appreciate
the
time
that's
spent
here
on
behalf
of
the
beat
board
as
its
chair
and
I'll
report
back
to
them.
K
After
you
know,
a
decision
is
made,
and
I
want
to
thank
the
finance
committee
for
your
efforts
in
understanding
all
this
and
appreciate
the
time
that
you've
taken.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Okay,
thank
you.
L
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
see
miss
mcsherry
on
and
I
wanted
to
ask
her
a
question
about
the
legal
contracts.
I
remember
when
litigation
was
happening
when
councillor
ives,
I
believe,
was
the
board
chair.
L
L
M
Counselor,
chairman
of
the
council,
rivera
the,
so
the
discussion
could
happen
in
executive
session,
the
expenditures
it
sounds
like
the
bdd's,
I
think,
directly
contracting
with
council.
I've
met
with
the
outside
counsel
for
this
matter
previously,
along
with
nancy
long,
but
often
times
when
we
enter
a
new
contract
for
litigation.
That
would
be
an
opportune
time
to
discuss
it
in
executive
session
as
well.
So
it's
highly
likely.
L
So
if
they
needed
additional
funding
more
than
what
was
initially
approved,
how
would
that
process
work.
M
German
abate,
the
council
rivera.
I
I
believe
that,
basically
the
amendment
would
go
to
the
bdd
board.
If
there's
a
needed
amendment,
it
depends
if
they're
exceeding
the
amount
that's
already
authorized
in
their
legal
contract
and
then,
if
the
budget
was
too
low
for
that,
we
would
have
to
have
some
sort
of
a
budget
adjustment.
M
In
terms
of
like
the
specific
staff
involved
and
that
type
of
thing
that
would
that
would
be
administrative
decision,
but
basically
it
would
be
similar
to
any
other
budget
adjustment
that
you
have
with
this
this
body.
You
might
also
need
to
amend
the
overall
budget
with
the
bdd.
M
Counselor
abetta
councillor
vivetta,
I
think
often
we
are
kept
in
the
loop
on
the
progress
of
the
litigation
and
we
would
certainly
be
able
to
work
with
ms
long
to
go
to
executive
session
to
talk
about
the
litigation.
But
the
budget
adjustment
itself
isn't
an
authorized
reason
for
an
executive
session.
L
Okay,
thank
you,
mr
chair,
and
I
just
wanted
to
thank
council
woman,
romero
worth
and
councilwoman
v
hill
koppler
for
really
taking
a
step
back
and
really
looking
at
the
budget.
G
Mr
chair
committee
members,
so
the
bdd
board
has
already
approved
the
amendment
for
litigation
services,
our
contract
for
fiscal
year
2021,
and
that
is
the
2
million.
That's
in
the
budget.
So
any
reductions
would
not
touch
that
line
item,
which
is
why
it
made
this
exercise
difficult,
because
we
are
already
in
contractual
obligation
with
our
litigation
attorney
at
this
at
this
amount,
and
that
was
discussed
in
executive
session
with
our
attorney.
L
It
was
about
additional
costs
that
would
need
to
be
spent
so
how
those
would
be
decided
by
the
council
or
brought
to
the
council.
So
that
was
that
discussion.
A
Okay,
so
so
with
that
mackie.
So
as
I
understand
the
the
two
million
is
gonna
be
there,
but
you
had
to
make
reductions
other
places
and
that's
where
councilwoman
cassette
sanchez
was
going.
So
can
you
explain
to
us
where
you
made
the
other
reductions.
G
Mr
chair
members
of
the
committee,
I'm
so
with
the
city's
6
million
dollar
recommendation
for
bdd's
budget.
In
order
to
make
that
work
with
our
budget,
I
had
to
cut
the
overall
budget
by
1.4
million
dollars.
I
mean,
given
that
salaries
is
3
million
and
litigation
is
2
million.
You
know,
and
then
we
have
electrical
costs
and
chemicals
those
things
you
know
we
can't
really
change
because
they're
based
on
how
much
water
we
produce
and
the
quality
of
the
river
made
it
extremely
difficult
to
cut
in
other
places.
G
So
I
did
cut
in
salaries.
We
have
two
vacant
positions
in
this
presentation
that
you
see
on
the
screen.
I
I
don't
have
those
positions
being
filled,
even
though
one
of
them
is
the
position
that
we
do
need
in
our
maintenance
department.
So,
on
the
recommended
budget,
that's
crafted.
I
have
one
of
those
positions
being
filled,
but
on
this
one
both
of
those
positions
are
not
being
filled,
and
I
also
cut
all
of
over
time
just
to
bring
it
down
to
the
135
000
reduction.
G
I
might
also
cut
how
to
cut
electricity
costs
again.
This
is
just
a
projection
and
this
one
is
hard
because
it's
based
on
water
quality
and
how
much
water
we
produce
in
the
year.
That's
what
drives
our
electrical
costs,
but
I
did
cut
that
by
247
thousand
dollars
to
try
to
get
to
the
number
that
the
city
needed,
and
then
we
cut
material
supplies
and
other
operating
costs
supplies.
G
That's
where
the
bulk
of
our
maintenance
of
equipment,
our
on-call
contracts,
operating
supplies,
that's
where
the
bulk
of
that
is,
and
so
I
had
to
cut
that
by
654
thousand
on
bds
recommended.
We
do
cut
that
we
did
cut
out
some
of
our
capital
asset
purchases
that
we
wanted
to
make
in
the
current
year.
G
But
with
with
this
that
the
city
was
originally
requesting,
you
know
we
we
had
to
cut
a
lot,
and
so
this
budget
was
definitely
is
definitely
going
to
be
more
difficult
to
operate
with
than
than
the
recommended
that
that
staff
prepared
just
because
we
were
trying
to
get
to
a
targeted
number
and
with
the
complexities
of
the
percentages.
G
It
makes
it
that
much
more
difficult.
If
there's.
J
I
don't
think
I
have
any
further
questions
on
that.
I
I
appreciate
you
going
over
that
line
item
by
line
item
so
regardless.
I
think
that
would
be
really
interesting
for
us
and
just
help
with
our
education
is
probably
in
about
six
months.
I'd
really
like
to
see
another
presentation
from
bdd
about
budgeted
versus
actuals
and
where
we
would
expect
to
be
with
the
year
so
yeah.
I
don't
have
any
further
questions.
Thank
you
for
bringing
this
onto
the
screen.
E
Councilwoman
via
rael.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Miss
romero.
Can
you
hear
me,
can
you
hear
me?
Okay,
yes,
okay,
my
computer
is
a
little
slow
today
from
this.
E
Andy,
can
you
mute
yourself,
please
thank
you
from
this
particular
budget,
we're
looking
at
now.
What
was
the
line
item?
You
said
that
cut
overtime.
G
Research
are
members
of
the
committee
that
would
have
been
in
the
first
line
item
the
salaries,
so
salaries
benefits
and
over
time
yield
in
that
line
item,
and
so
I
cut
335
000
compared
to
the
other
version
you
saw,
which
only
cut
270
000,
and
that
was
in
this
version.
I
had
to
completely
cut
over
time
and
not
filled
of
the
current
beacon
positions.
E
E
E
So
I
know
we
keep
talking
about
this,
but
I'm
not
sure
what
we
decided
if
we
were
going
to
go
ahead
with
the
original
that
was
proposed
or
the
city,
the
city
version
based
on
the
cuts
which
I'm
assuming
it's
based
on
the
overall
like
our
overall
budget
and
what
we're
projecting
through
finance
as
a
whole,
not
just
this
department
but
the
whole
city.
So
how
does
that
affect
our
projections
or
the
our
budget
deficit
as
a
whole?
I
Mr
chair,
counselors
again,
this
would
be
taken
out
of
our
cash
reserves,
any
additional
amount
over
what
was
proposed
in
the
budget,
whether
it's
now
or
via
a
budget
adjustment
in
the
coming
months.
E
Okay
from
the
water
fund
got
it,
so
what
are
we
doing?
I
mean
I
appreciate
all
the
information.
It's
very
helpful.
I
was
just
trying
to
figure
out
based
on
this
new
information.
You
just
presented
to
us
side
by
side,
which
was
very
helpful.
Are
we
proposing
then,
to
move
forward
with
the
bdd
recommendation.
A
Okay,
but
but
we're
talking
about
there
were
there
were
three:
there
was
the
original
bdd
recommendation.
Then
there
was
this
revised
version,
which
is
9.2
million
right
mackie,
with
our
proposal
being
our
contribution
being.
G
6.4,
that
is
so
that
one
is,
is
staff,
bdd
staff
recommendation
and
then
this
one
is
the
cities
so
you're
right.
There
are
three:
the
bdd
board
approved
one,
the
bdd
staff,
one,
which
was
the
four
for
the
city
9.2
for
bdd
overall,
and
then
this
version
here
on
the
screen
is
the
one
that's
in
the
city's
budget
at
6
million,
which
would
cut
beating
to
8.8
million.
A
Councilwoman
viral
did
you
want
to
make
a
motion?
I
mean
I'm
willing
to
support
the
staff
recommendation,
it's
kind
of
the
middle
middle
ground
between
what
the
city
proposed
and
what
bdd
proposed.
Knowing.
E
G
Mr
chair
committee,
members-
I'm
sorry
it
does
not.
This
was
prepared
before
I
had
prepared
the
staff
version.
E
A
Okay,
there's
one
member
from
the
board:
do
you
want
to
hear
from
councilwoman
the
hill
coupler
she's,
the
other
member.
K
Oh
I've
been
on
the
spot
before.
Thank
you.
You
know
I
I
support
the
I'll
say.
I
support
the
bdd's
staff
version
because
it's
well
thought
out.
It's.
I
think
it's
more
bare
bones
than
than
what
we're
we
have
experienced,
but
as
far
as
a
city
councilor,
you
know
we
have
avenues
to
come
back
and
readjust
and
the
fact
that
we
don't
invoice
we
invoice
for
expenses
is
also
kind
of
a
a
safety
net,
so
I'm
very
comfortable
with
this
budget.
A
Thank
you,
okay,
so
we
have
a
motion
and
we
have
a
second
any
further
discussion.
Can
I
have
a
roll
call
please-
and
this
is
and
just
to
restate
the
motion.
It
is
for
the
staff
recommended
city
funding
of
six
million
four
hundred
forty
three
thousand
nine
hundred
and
seventy
nine
dollars
pay.
That
number
again.
Mr
chair
six
million
four
hundred
forty
three
thousand
nine
hundred
and
seventy
nine
dollars.
A
A
Yes,
okay,
so
that
budget
is
approved.
That
concludes
all
of
our
department
budgets.
All
together,
we
approve
22,
separate
budgets
over
six
days
and
24
plus
hours.
A
We
do
have
to
make
a
decision
or
a
motion
on
the
entire
operating
budget,
and
so
what
I
would
like
to
do
is
I'd
like
to
give
each
of
the
governing
body
members
and
the
finance
committee
members.
If
you
want
to
make
any
last
statements
regarding
the
budget,
we
can
go
around
and
do
that,
but
I
would
really
like
to
wrap
this
up
because
the
finance
department
has
to
they
literally
have
24
hours
to
put
together
a
presentation
for
tomorrow,
and
I
think
they
need
to
get
to
that
sooner
rather
than
later.
A
So
with
that,
if,
let's
start
with
the
non-committee
members,
counselor
rivera,
did
you
want
to?
Did
you
have
any
comments
or
or
last
minute
statements
regarding
the
budget
itself
before
we
make
a
recommendation
to
the
governing
body.
L
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
trust
that
your
board,
the
finance
committee,
has
done
their
due
diligence.
L
You
know
I
listen
in,
and
sometimes
I
have
questions.
Sometimes
I
don't
and
I've
been
on
that
side.
I
know
how
difficult
it
is,
so
thank
them
for
all
their
great
work
as
long
as
as
well
as
staff,
the
finance
committee,
all
the
directors
that
had
to
really
make
some
hard
decisions
and
and
make
some
cuts.
So
it's
a
difficult
time
and
I
just
wanted
to
thank
them
all
for
their
hard
work
and
thank
you
for
allowing
us
to
sit
in
and
acknowledging
us
when
we
did
have
questions.
So.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
K
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
I
want
to
echo
council
rivera's
points
about
this.
The
hard
work
that
the
staff
has
put
into
preparing
this
budget,
I'm
sure
there's
many
many
hours
worked
over
as
well
as
the
departments
who
presented
the
budgets.
Some
of
them
maybe
had
to
work
through
their
furlough
hours
for
free
to
to
wait
and
see
how
things
were
going
to
pan
out,
but
I
I
really
appreciate
the
work
that's
been
done
and
the
work
on
behalf
of
this
committee.
K
The
only
comment
I
would
say
about
the
budget
itself
is
that
I
know
we
just
got
the
ftes
emailed
to
us
by
miss
mccoy,
and
I
want
to
thank
her
and
bernie
salazar
for
doing
that.
So
I
I'll
need
some
time
to
digest
it,
and-
and
I
may
have
questions
tomorrow
about
it,
but
I
haven't
had
time
to
to
take
it.
Take
a
look
for
good,
so
I'll
just
say
you
know.
K
Thanks
for
all
the
work
you've
done,
it's
been
nice
to
sit
in
and
be
able
to
walk
away
from
the
the
camera
for
a
while,
but-
and
I
appreciate
that
you
all
have
stuck
stuck
it
out
and
sat
in
your
chairs
and
and
done
the
hard
work.
So
thanks
for
everything,
thank
you,
mr
chair.
Thank
you.
J
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
You
know
I
just
want
to
echo
the
thanks
to
you
know
all
of
our
staff
who
has
been
presenting
and
who's
been
able
to
answer
these
questions
and
get
us
information,
and
especially
our
finance
staff.
I
know
that
we
have
asked
them
to
continually
produce
a
lot
every
day
after
they
sat
in
these
budget
meetings
with
us
and
then
went
and
worked
at
night
to
to
get
that
information
to
us.
So
I
do
really
appreciate
it.
You
know
I've
said
this
from
the
beginning.
J
I
fully
expect
this
budget
to
change
frequently
this
year.
I
think
that
this
budget
is
operating
on
a
hope
that
things
will
continue
to
improve,
and
so
that
is
something
that
that
I've
really
just
wanted
to
be
keeping
in
mind
that
there's
there's
still
a
lot
of
unknowns
here,
and
so
I
really
want
to
thank
everybody
for
putting
in
this
work
and
for
trying
to
gather
information
and
make
your
best
guesses
based
on
a
completely
unknowable
situation.
J
So
so
thank
you.
This
is
really.
This
has
been
an
educating
experience
for
me
as
my
first
budget
hearings,
so
I
I
really
appreciate
looking
in
depth
into
everything,
that's
going
on
in
the
city
and
thank
you
so
much
to
my
fellow
committee
members
for
all
that
I've
learned
from
each
of
you
throughout
this
process
as
well.
E
E
I
think
there's
some
items
that
we
had
questions
on,
that
I'm
still
wanting
to
go
through
to
make
a
better
informed
decision
about
the
overall
budget.
I
think
there's
some
strong
points
to
this
budget,
some
weak
points
to
the
budget
and
some
kind
of
pieces
that
are
still
outstanding.
For
me
I
mean
I
feel
like
in
some
sections
of
this
budget.
It's
set
up
as
if
the
reorgs
are
going
to
occur.
E
Specifically,
the
community
services
budget
is
assuming
that
three
four
different
departments
will
be
combined
into
community
safety,
health
and
safety,
and
so
that's
hard
for
me
because
it's
already
setting
it
up
as
if
that
reorg
is
going
to
be
occurring
in
that
fashion.
So
that's
what
I'm
struggling
with
I'm
still
struggling
with
parks
and
rec
being
separated
and
again,
I
feel,
like
their
budgets,
are
reflective
of
potential
reorg.
So
these
are
things
that
I'm
still
I
know
we're
going
to
be
discussing.
E
But
there
are
aspects
of
this
budget
that
are
structured
in
that
the
org
is
actually
going
to
happen.
The
way
it
was
presented.
So
I-
and
I
still
think,
there's
a
lot
to
be
discussed
on
that
end,
but
I
do
appreciate
finance
working
with
the
information
they
have
given
that
it's
been
late
coming
and
yeah.
I
think
I
think
that
I
will
vote
this
forward
to
the
governing
body,
even
though
there's
still
some
information
and
questions
that
I
have
that
I
still
need
to
review,
but
it's
by
voting.
E
Yes,
it's
really
moving
it
forward
so
that
we
can
have
a
larger
discussion
from
the
governing
body
and
also
getting
feedback
from
the
public,
since
we
will
only
have
one
as
one
opportunity
for
the
public
to
weigh
in
and
in
a
way.
I
think
it's
kind
of
short-sighted,
because
at
that
point,
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
have
already
been
discussed
and
it's
not
like
we're
going
to
go
back
to
the
drawing
board
to
be
able
to
address
some
of
the
concerns
from
the
public.
E
Other
than
that
again,
thanks
to
all
the
different
departments
and
staff
for
putting
in
a
lot
of
time
for
this
budget
process-
and
I
also
want
to
thank
the
chair
for
leading
us
keeping
us
on
track
and
putting
up
with
our
moments
of
of-
I
guess
just
trying
to
figure
out
like
how
to
how
to
dissect
the
information.
It
is
somewhat
frustrating.
I
have
to
say,
conducting
our
budget
hearings
on
a
virtual
platform.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair
I'll,
try
to
be
concise.
I
would
just
say
thank
you
to
the
staff
acro,
both
the
finance
committee
staff
and
or
the
finance
department
staff,
then
also
all
the
other
departments
that
have
come
before
us.
I
know
this
has
been
a
major
focal
point
for
everyone
for
a
long
time.
F
It's
an
exceptional
year.
The
uncertainty
that
we
are
dealing
with
and
budgeting
around
is
extraordinary
and,
I
think,
to
counselor
cass
at
sanchez's
point.
This
is
not
the
end.
We
are
going
to
be
budgeting
for
the
next
year
at
con
at
repeated
intervals,
as
as
we
learn
more
about
what
our
revenue
situation
looks
like
and
and
what
this
pandemic
will
do
as
we
move
forward
in
in
dealing
with
it.
So
I
don't
think
this
is
over
by
any
means.
F
It
goes
to
the
governing
body
tomorrow
night
and
we're
going
to
be
talking
about
budgeting
continually.
Thank
you,
mr.
P
I
also
I'm
grateful
to
staff.
This
was
a
hard
year
to
put
a
budget
together.
I
mean
this.
Was
you
know
it's
based
on
our
best
guess
and
projections
that
are
are
reasonable.
P
And
I
think
that
this
council
gave
good
guidance
on
what
we
were
looking
for
and
what
our
expectations
are.
I
feel
honored
to
serve
on
this
council
and
this
committee
there's.
This
is
a
hard-working
committee.
I
appreciate
everyone
on
it.
Everyone
shows
up
so
well
prepared
and
with
such
good
questions.
P
I
miss
that
we
can't
all
be
together.
I
think
that's
really
hard
for
us.
We
we
like
each
other.
We
like
seeing
each
other,
we
fight
hard
and
we
hug
hard.
So
you
know
I
just.
I
think
the
public
should
know
that
we
miss
each
other,
we
miss
being
together.
As
far
as
the
actual
budget
goes,
I
I
think
you
guys
have
covered
it
very
very
well.
P
I
think
it's
gonna.
I
think
that
this
is
not
the
end
of
the
budget
this
year.
I
think
that
we're
gonna
have
a
lot
of
changes
through
the
year.
Hopefully
those
changes
feel
like
opportunity
instead
of
having
to
drag
ourselves
back
in
and
and
make
more
hard
decisions.
P
I'm
optimistic
there's
some
areas
in
this
budget
that
you
know
I
scratch
my
head
at
a
little
bit
and
I'm
worried
about
you
know
I
I
can
get
into
the
weeds
pretty
far
with
things
like
land
use
and-
and
I
I
think
we
have
a
terrible
shortage
of
inspectors
right
now
and
it
hurts
us
in
terms
of
economic
development
and
trying
to
keep
us
on
track
and
moving
forward
to
have
contractors
waiting
around
to
get
inspections,
that's
hard
for
us
and
that's
hard
for
them,
and
those
are
the
kinds
of
into
the
weeds
things
that
I
rely
on
our
administration
to
look
at
and
to
change
within
this
budget.
P
I,
the
parks
and
rec,
have
concerns
about
that.
Also
I'll
wait
to
hear
more
on
on
how
that
can
work,
then
the
new
health
and
safety.
P
We
have
to
find
a
way
to
fund
the
positions
to
respond
to
the
calls
that
the
police
are
not
in
it's
not
that
they
don't
respond
to
them.
They
do
they
respond
to
thousands
of
them
a
year.
Is
there
a
better
way
to
respond
to
those
calls?
I
think
so,
and
I
think
that
the
police
are
in
a
better
position.
P
In
terms
of
having
filled
vacancies
than
in
a
very
very
long
time,
so
I
think
that
that's
a
budget
that
we
can
look
at
in
the
future
as
to
how
to
shift
around
how
they
do
some
of
their
work,
and
I
think
that
the
public's
very
much
interested
in
having
us
do
that,
and
I
would
be
remiss
to
not
thank
our
illustrious
chair
who
kept
us
out
of
the
weeds,
did
not
let
us
drown
in
the
puddles
which
it's
easy
to
drown
in
the
puddles
of
this
at
times.
P
So,
thanks
chair
for
keeping
us
on
on
track
and
not
being
short
with
us.
When
I
know
sometimes
it
is
easy
to
get
out
into
the
weeds
and
questions
that
probably
weren't
particularly
budget-oriented,
but
I
think
he
did
a
terrific
job
and
again,
I'm
I'm
deeply
grateful
that
I
get
to
serve
on
this
committee
with
the
people
that
are
on
it.
You
do
a
terrific
job.
Thank
you.
A
You
ask
what
I'm
thinking
or
the
questions.
I
have
you
you
guys
you're
all
over
it
and
it's
it's
nice
because
then
I
can
focus
on
running
the
meeting
and
keeping
us
moving
along.
So
thank
you.
As
I
said
earlier,
we
22
separate
motions
over
six
days
and
four
hour
days.
They
were.
It
was
tough,
a
lot
of
work,
seven
days,
seven
days.
It
was
tough
and
and
so
just
again
thank
you
to
the
governing
body,
the
committee
and
the
staff.
A
I
think
this
is
a
team
effort
and
we
are
all
on
the
same
team
at
the
end
of
the
day.
So
with
that,
I
will
entertain
a
motion
to
approve
the
operating
budget
for
fiscal
year.
2020
2021.