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B
B
Here,
okay,
so
we
thank
you,
we
have
a
quorum
next,
we
have
approval
of
the
agenda.
As
far
as
the
agenda
goes
item
g
under
the
consent
calendar
will
be
postponed,
so
we
will
not
hear
item
g.
Are
there
any
other
changes
to
the
agenda
from
staff.
B
G
B
F
Okay,
anything
else.
H
Mr
chair,
I'd
like
to
pull
e
f
and
I'd
like
to
pull
h
as
well.
Did
you
say
e
and
f?
Yeah
e
is
an
elephant.
F
B
Okay,
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
can
have
a
roll
call.
Please
counselor
general
romero
worth.
B
B
B
Yes,
okay,
so
the
minutes
have
been
approved.
We
have
presentations,
we
have
two
presentations.
The
first
is
on
the
fy
20
internal
audit
and
then
the
second
would
be
a
benefits
presentation.
So
we
have
items
that
got
pulled
from
the
consent
agenda.
So
if
the
presenters
can
start
with
a
brief
five-minute
presentation
and
then
we
could
get
into
questions
from
the
committee.
D
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
I'll,
give
a
brief
introduction.
Today
we
have
joining
us,
the
chair
of
the
city's
audit
committee,
stephanie
woodruff.
In
addition,
we
have
caitlin
gutierrez
and
jessica
bundy
from
redw
the
team
that
performed
the
internal
audit.
As
you
all
may
remember,
going
back
to
the
mccard
report
in
2017,
the
card
report
identified
problems
with
the
way
the
city
was
conducting
the
internal
audits,
and
at
that
time
the
council
moved
to
co-source
the
internal
audit
function
essentially
allowing
the
city
to
hire
on
a
firm
like
redw,
to
perform
these
internal
audits.
D
So
what
we
have
before
you
tonight
is
the
internal
audit
of
the
city's
lease
procedures.
D
D
In
addition
to
that,
you
do
have
a
major
change
in
accounting
standard,
beginning
in
fy
22
in
july
of
next
year.
So
that's
why
we
asked
radw
to
focus
on
this
to
ensure
that
we
were
in
compliance
with
the
new
accounting
standard.
With
that,
a
brief
introduction,
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
our
the
chair
of
our
audit
committee,
stephanie
woodla.
J
Great
thank
you.
Mary
welcome
everybody.
I'd
like
to
introduce
before
I
introduce
redw
on
this
first
audit,
just
a
kind
of
a
brief
overview.
We
have
been
meeting
monthly
and
per
the
risk
assessment
for
this
year.
The
leesa
county
was
one
of
the
top
areas
that
we
identified
that
we
need
to
address
because
in
the
new
gasb
87
rule
in
effect
next
july,
2021
so
they're
going
to
present
the
report.
There
are
several
issues
and
I'm
completely
satisfied
with
management's
response
with
that.
Then.
J
After
this
initial
internal
audit,
we
will
be
meeting
with
redw
on
thursday
of
this
week
to
further
discuss
the
20
2020
2021
internal
audit
plan
for
the
year,
and
I
think
it's
going
to
focus
on
a
lot
of
some
of
the
issues
identified
during
the
kafir
review
and
just
a
kind
of
a
continuation
on
all
of
the
issues
that
we've
had
over
the
past
year.
So
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
jessica
and
caitlin
at
redw.
J
They've
been
our
co-sourcing
partner,
for
this
is
the
first
year
and
they've
done
an
excellent
job
in
terms
of
identifying
the
issues
and
leveraging
a
lot
of
their
knowledge
of
the
city
of
santa
fe,
and
I'm
just
very
happy
with
the
relationship
and
look
forward
to
continuing
the
relationship
over
the
next
year.
So
I
don't
know
caitlyn
are
you
going
to
run?
J
K
Be
kicking
it
off
so
hi
everyone
good
evening,
and
we
appreciate
everyone's
time
today.
I
apologize
it
looks
like
I'm
glowing
right
now.
I
can
do
nothing
about
the
ceiling
fan.
So
just
add
some
nice
lighting
anyway.
So
as
stephanie
and
mary
introduce.
This
is
the
least
administration
internal
audit
that
we
performed.
K
It
was
performed
due
to
changes
that
occurred
from
the
governmental
accounting
standards
board
in
2017
on
those
lease
accounting
standards
which
are
referred
to
in
this
report
as
gas,
the
87.
So
the
purpose
of
these
changes
is
to
assist
with
improving
the
comparability
and
decision
decision
making
information
on
a
government's
financial
statements.
There
were
several
major
changes
identified,
which
the
city
is
required
to
update
by
july
1st
of
2021,
which
is
the
first
day
of
the
new
fiscal
year
next
year,
in
order
to
comply
with
those
rules.
K
So
what
our
internal
audit
did
was
it
sought
to
understand
where
the
city
is
currently
at
with
its
lease
portfolio
and
then
look
at
the
surrounding
internal
controls
to
sure
ensure
they're
on
track
for
compliance
with
those
gas
b87
rules.
In
a
typical
internal
audit,
we
would
have
performed
detailed
testing
to
better
understand
the
control
environment.
However,
since
many
of
those
control
issues
regarding
the
lease
process
had
been
previously
identified
by
the
city,
we
determined
detailed
testing
of
current
process
would
provide
no
benefit.
K
Therefore,
our
focus
shifted
more
towards
working
with
the
city
to
determine
those
next
steps
in
achieving
that
compliance
with
the
gas
v87
lease
rules.
So
I
would
like
to
point
out
that,
since
this
report
was
released,
the
city
has
made
strides
towards
implementing
new
controls
and
processes
over
that
lease
administration
process,
as
well
as
the
accompanying
cash
controls
process,
and
I
will
have
management
kind
of
address
some
of
those
items
that
they
have
that
they
have
performed
since,
since
we
did
this.
K
K
So
our
internal
audit
highlighted
various
control
deficiencies,
including
no
centralized
repository
for
leases,
nor
any
written
policies
and
procedures
regarding
lease
management,
for
when
the
city
is
either
the
lessee
or
lessor.
In
addition,
many
of
the
lease
contracts
that
are
currently
in
place
are
old
and
are
lacking
those
necessary
details
to
comply
with
those
gatsby
87
rules.
K
Lastly,
we
found
there
was
no
individual
or
department
responsible
for
ensuring
lease
revenues
are
collected
timely.
So
we
put
this
risk
as
high
and
recommend
the
city
establish
a
gas,
the
87
implementation
plan
to
ensure
that
they
are
compliant
with
the
upcoming
standards.
As
part
of
this
plan,
we
recommend
that
they
develop
a
complete
lease
portfolio
as
well
as
establish
who
maintains
the
information
on
each
lease.
The
portfolio
development
should
include
specific
parameters
such
as
how
far
the
city
wants
to
go
back
or
the
impact
of
the
dollar
amount
to
term.
To
determine.
K
K
They
should
then
implement
monitoring
procedures
to
define
how
those
leases
will
be
monitored
and
who
will
be
responsible,
and,
finally,
they
should
document
those
processes
and
formalize
policies
and
procedures
over
both
tracking
and
reporting
components
of
the
lease.
So
at
this
point,
if
it's
okay
I'd
like
to
turn
it
over
to
management
to
discuss
how
they've
addressed
this
observation
so
far,
and
the
plan
moving
forward.
D
Great
mr
chair
members
of
the
committee,
as
caitlyn,
outlined
several
areas
that
the
city
would
need
to
improve
upon
in
order
to
be
in
compliance
with
gasby
87..
So
you
know
in
general.
What
we
can
say
is
what
caitlyn
focused
on
that.
We
will
be
using
our
munis
system
to
become
in
compliance
with
gas
b87
for
fiscal
year
22,
which
begins
in
july
of
next
year.
D
We
actually
plan
on
starting
that
process
in
the
current
fiscal
year
and
have
created
a
working
group
specific
to
the
gaspi
87
implementation,
to
ensure
that
we
are
on
track
to
implement
the
recommendations
that
caitlin
and
her
team
have
included
in
this
report.
So
it's
extremely
important
again
to
really
start
at
the
the
basics,
for
us
to
be
able
to
define,
to
identify
and
define
all
of
the
leases
in
the
city
and
create
the
central
repository.
D
So
our
staff
has
you
know,
since
we
received
these
initial
recommendations
from
redw,
our
staff
has
already
started
that
process.
We
again,
we
have
very
specific
compliance,
related
issues
with
gatsby
87,
where
we
have
to
track
the
term
of
the
lease
the
type
of
the
lease
et
cetera.
So
that
will
also
be
going
into
the
centralized
repository
again.
The
munis
financial
system
is
really
going
to
be
able
to
what
is
key
to
being
able
to
implement
this
by
fy22.
D
I
think
that
about
covers
it
in
general,
the
the
details
are
here
in
the
report
that
we're
reviewing
with
you
and
have
also
been
posted
online
as
well
as
emailed
to
each
of
the
committee
members.
So
with
that
caitlyn
I'll
turn
it
over
you
to
the
second
grade.
K
In
addition,
we
found
there
was
no
process
in
place
to
ensure
that
lease
payments
are
appropriately
applied
to
the
correct
receivable
and
revenue
accounts.
We
again
put
this
risk
at
high.
However,
we
do
acknowledge
that
the
city
has
taken
proactive
steps
towards
remediating
this
observation,
including
a
build
out
in
munich,
which
allows
the
city
to
send
invoices
electronically
and
have
payments
made
electronically,
which
will
be
a
huge
improvement
moving
forward.
K
Our
recommendation
here
is
the
city
implement
controls
over
that
cash
payment
window
and
which
is
currently
in
the
main
building
to
ensure
that
the
necessary
information
is
compiled
at
the
time
of
a
payment.
Should
it
not
be
done
electronically,
so
that
people
staff
at
the
city
can
make
sure
that
they're
identifying
where
that
payment
belongs
and
posting
it
correctly.
K
Any
cashier
that
is
processing
payment
should
also
be
required
to
attend
training
over
the
process
and
policies
and
procedures
should
be
developed
to
document
controls
in
place.
Lastly,
we
recommend
the
monthly
review
be
put
in
place
to
review
outstanding
receivables
to
determine
if
any
collection
efforts
need
to
be
given
so
again,
I'll
turn
it
over
to
mary
to
do
a
brief
summary
of
kind
of
the
steps
so
far.
D
Thank
you
caitlyn,
mr
chair
members
of
the
committee.
As
soon
as
ritw
started
fighting
these
issues
for
the
city,
we
started
to
take
corrective
action.
So
in
doing
this,
we
have
developed
the
form
that
rhw
recommended
and
conducted
trainings
for
the
cashiers
working
at
the
main
office
in
city
hall.
Again,
what
the
form
essentially
does
is
collect
all
of
the
relevant
information
for
the
appropriate,
tracking
and
recording
of
the
lease
revenue
coming
into
the
city,
and
now
that
the
city
has
implemented
the
month
end
closed
process.
D
D
So
I
think
this
is
really
positive
and
beneficial,
and
throughout
the
last
year
there
have
been
a
few
instances,
at
least
where
city
staff
working
across
departments,
including
the
legal
department,
have
actually
you
know,
flagged
several
issues
where
our
lease
or
our
leases
have
not
been
paid
and
we've
been
able
to
either
collect
or
we've
been
able
to
take
the
appropriate
legal
actions.
D
So
this
is
really
a
beneficial
process
for
the
city,
especially
during
a
budget
shortfall
time
where
we
really
do
need
to
ensure
that
the
city
is
collecting
all
of
the
revenue
that
is
due
to
the
city.
So
again,
this
is
one
of
the
initial
initial
concerns
that
our
team
flagged
when
we
started
a
few
years
ago,
and
these
this
is
part
of
the
multiple
steps
in
the
corrective
action
to
ensure
that
the
city
is
properly
receiving
and
recording
the
revenue
for
the
lease
payments
that
we
are
due.
G
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
could
you
just
elaborate
a
little
bit
more
on
this
rule
that
we're
implementing
gas
b87?
Is
that
something
that
all
cities
are
being
asked
to
do
have?
Are
we
behind
in
doing
that?
Are
we
right
on
time?
K
Sure,
absolutely
so
it
is,
it
is
applicable
to
all
governments
that
fall
that
follow
the
governmental
accounting
standards
rules.
So
yes,
definitely
a
major
change.
Government-Wide
as
far
you
know,
I
I
kind
of
touch
on
it
more
in
the
report
kind
of
about
what
what
gas
87
entails
and
what's
required
as
far
as
the
city's
compliance
with
it
and
my
from
what
I'm
witnessing,
I
think
that
they're
right
on
track
for
making
making
progress
to
compliance
with
the
global
pandemic
and
everything
the
the
due
date
has
been
pushed.
K
So
it's
allowed
governments
more
time.
This
you
know
like.
I
said
this
is
an
extremely
big
change,
so
it
has
actually
given
governments
more
time
to
really
sit
down
and
get
all
this
information
figured
out.
So,
in
my
opinion,
you
know
they
are
on
track.
I
know
that
they're
working
very
hard
and
to
get
this
information
where
it
needs
to
be
so
I
feel
confident
that
they
will
achieve
that
goal
by
by
the
start
of
next
fiscal
year.
G
And
we
already
use
the
the
the
proper
accounting
for
a
governmental
entity
we're
not
having
to
make
that
change
correct.
I
don't
believe
so.
No,
okay
and
I
I
apologize.
I
I
think
we
I
just
want
everyone
to
know.
We
just
got
this
report
this
afternoon,
so
I
haven't
had
a
chance
to
read
it
in
depth.
So
sorry
about
the
question:
if,
if
you
addressed.
G
We'll
have
time
to
get
into
that
a
little
bit
more
deeply.
Now
that
we
have
it.
So.
Thank
you
thank
you
and
if
you
have
after
you've
read
through
the
questions.
K
If
you
have
subsequent
questions
that
you
would
like
addressed
by
all
means,
please
feel
free
to
contact
us
we'd
be
very
happy
to
answer
them
for
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
B
Okay,
so
that
concludes
our
presentation.
Regarding
the
internal
audit,
our
next
presentation
is
regarding
our
benefits.
Ms
salazar.
L
Thank
you,
mr
chairman
and
members
of
the
committee.
This
is
our
regular
update
on
where
we
are
with
our
benefits
administration.
So
with
us
tonight
we
have
don
montano
from
aeon
who
will
be
presenting
our
our
updated
information
so
I'll
turn
it
over
to
don.
M
Thank
you,
mr
chair
and
members
of
the
committee.
I
am
working
on
sharing
my
screen.
I
just
want
to
confirm
you
all
can
see
it.
M
M
M
So
on
on
this
page,
the
current
plan,
your
information
is,
in
the
first
column,
a
where
you
see
7
20
to
7
20
and
then
the
prior
plan
year
close
out
information
is
in
the
column
just
to
the
right
of
that.
So
our
enrollment
stayed
pretty
consistent,
but
I
think
the
important
things
to
note
in
the
current
plan
year
is
our
funding
down
on
row.
Seven
for
about
one
month
was
1.636
million
that
equates
to
597.33
per
member
per
month.
M
M
So
we,
when
we
add
that
to
the
total
paid
claims,
our
total
cost
for
the
month
of
july
were
1.765
million,
so
you
can
see
for
that
one
month
we're
already
at
a
deficit
of
129
204,
because
our
funding
was
1.6
million
and
the
cost
exceeded
that
the
the
good
news
was
in
the
2019-2020
plan
year
did
not
end
as
rough
as
we
thought
it
was
going
to
be
and
as
large
of
a
deficit
as
we
had
projected
and
part
of
that.
M
Well,
that
was
primarily
driven
by
the
impact
of
covid
with
members
not
being
able
to
access
health
care
providers
due
to
many
of
the
shutdowns.
So
you
can
see
for
the
year
our
funding
in
row,
7
was
19.9
million,
our
total
enroll
10,
our
total
medical
and
pharmacy
claims
was
19
million.
621
thousand.
M
We
did
in
row,
11
have
1.1
million
in
stop-loss
reimbursements,
so
our
net
claims
cost
was
18
million
474.
M
H
H
Oh
sorry,
thank
you.
I'm
I'm
not
sure
I
looked
at
this
a
few
days
ago,
and
so
I
apologize
if
this
is
coming
up.
Do
we
have
a
comparison
of
what
july,
2020
and
july
2019
looked
like
in
terms
of
expenditures.
M
Mr
chair
and
counselor
kessa
sanchez,
so
I'm
going
to
move
to
the
next
page
and
that
will
answer
those
questions
so
in
the
top
chart
in
row,
one
you
can
see
till
this
is
july
2020
and
we
have
the
number
of
subscribers
in
column
d.
The
funding
amount.
M
Column
f
is
the
total
medical
claims.
Column
g
is
the
pharmacy
claims
and
then
column
h
is
the
total
pay
claims.
When
you
look
at
the
chart
below
you
can
see
in
the
first
row
july
of
2019,
so
you
can
see
the
differential
there.
Our
medical
claims
in
july
of
2020
are
down
at
1.6
million
in
july
of
2019.
M
Our
paid
medical
claims
was
1.7
million,
so
they
they
are
down
a
little
bit,
it's
still
being
impacted
by
kovid,
because
people
just
are
still
continuing
to
delay
healthcare
that
can
be
delayed,
so
essential
healthcare
like
people
getting
their
dialysis
or
cancer
treatments
are
still
continuing.
But
if
somebody
is
needing
a
knee
surgery
and
they
can
put
it
off
they're
still
continuing
to
do
that.
I
L
This,
mr
chairman,
councillor
lindell,
we
can
get
that
number
to
you.
If
you
recall,
during
the
budget,
we
utilized
the
reserve
to
pay
for
the
deficit
that
we
were
anticipating
having
which
was
higher
than
this
434
000,
but
it
was
also
utilized
to
cover
the
increase
of
premium.
So,
instead
of
imposing
the
increase
to
employees,
we
used
our
reserve
fund.
So
it's
going
to
be
right
around.
I
would
say
right
around
probably
about
900
000,
but
we
can
get
you
the
exact
figures
after
work.
I
B
Well,
on
that
point,
councilman
dell
read
my
mind.
Ms
salazar.
I
think
you
do,
though,
need
to
keep
a
surprise
as
we
go
month
after
month.
Maybe
every
quarter
because,
as
you
stated,
we
did
decide
to
not
make
major
changes
and
access
that
cash
reserve,
so
we
wouldn't
have
to
make
those
tough
calls
back
when
we
did
budget.
B
So
if
you
can
keep
up,
keep
us
surprised
of
that
because
I'm
sure
you're
communicating
with
the
unions,
because
what
I'm
afraid
of
and
what
I
was
afraid
of
back
when
we
did
this
was
that
we
are
going
to
run
out
of
reserve
and
we
may
be
looking
at
plan
changes
because
we
didn't
make
the
tough
call
this
past
year.
We
may
have
to
six
months
from
now.
So
if
you
can
keep
us
afraid,
a
prize
of
that,
that
would
be
great.
Thank
you.
L
Mr
chairman,
thank
you
for
that.
We
will
be
presenting
something
after
we
receive
the
final
september
numbers
for
the
quarter
and
just
to
give
you
an
update,
we
have
been
meeting
with
the
benefits
advisory
committee,
which
is
comprised
of
all
three
union
presidents
and
we've
had,
I
believe,
three
meetings
since
the
budget
was
approved
and
the
changes
were
made
to
the
benefits.
B
Okay,
thank
you.
Councilwoman
romero,
worth.
G
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
just
want
to
emphasize
what
you
and
councillor
lindell
have
have
already
said.
I
think
that's
part
of
the
reason
why
we
are
having
this
report
is
that
we
did
want
to
monitor
what
was
happening
more
closely
because
of
how
we
use
the
reserves,
so
just
want
to
join
in
that
chorus
that
I
I
think
we
need
to
see
those
numbers
in
addition
to
these
numbers.
So
thank
you,
mr
chair.
Thank
you
councillor,
lindell,
for
bringing
it
up.
B
Okay,
go
ahead.
Ms
salazar.
M
Mr
chair
members,
at
committee
I'll
keep
moving
forward
on
slide
five.
This
has
our
large
claimants
information
so
so
far
in
the
current
plan
year
in
july,
we
have
one
person
who
is
hitting
our
radar
for
this
they've
so
far
had
a
total
claims
of
180
281
dollars
paid.
M
This
is
a
person
who
had
claims.
Last
year
you
can
see
in
the
table
below
the
july
2019
through
june
2020.
It
was
claimant
number
three
with
leukemia.
Last
year
they
had
400
000
and
paid
claims.
They
did
exceed
the
stop
loss,
so
we
did
get
some
recovery
from
that.
M
I
would
imagine
we
will
continue
to
see
this
individual
claim
amount
to
rise,
as
they
are
continue
to
be
enrolled
on
the.
M
Plan
on
slide,
six
is
the
dental
program.
So
if
you
recall
last
year,
the
plan
was
running
really
well.
We
did
not
need
to
make
any
adjustments
to
the
to
the
funding.
The
claims
are
still
right
on
track
from
what
we
were
seeing
in
the
prior
year,
so
it
so
far.
This
year
we've
had
a
total
of
87
000
in
expenses.
B
Thank
you
questions
from
the
committee.
No
okay,
yeah.
Thank
you.
Miss
salazar,
miss
montano.
We
do,
as
councilwoman
romero
said,
look
forward
to
your
report
after
you
close
out
the
first
quarter.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
mr
chair
and
commissioners.
Thank
you,
okay.
So
that
brings
us
to
the
items
that
were
removed
from
the
consent
calendar.
B
H
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chair.
I
just
had
a
quick
question.
The
memo
was
just
a
little
bit
vague
as
to
what
the
work
that
was
being
done,
that
caused
the
increase.
So
I
was
hoping
to
hear
more
details
about
about
this
work
and
why
we
needed
an
additional
seventy
thousand
dollars
to
cover
it.
A
All
right,
mr
chair
counselor,
casa
sanchez,
so
the
amount
is
for
added
work
that
was
going
to.
Let
me
start
over.
The
the
actual
amount
is
what
they.
What
they
do
for
us
is
to
look
how
our
services
relate
to
our
rates
so
that
we
can
do
our
rates
for
the
next
years
going
on
what
ended
up
happening
was
the
original
budget
when
it
was
put
in
for
the
temporary
budget,
it
was
covering
it
and
when
the
new
budget
was
loaded
up
inside
it
didn't
have
the
total
amount
that
we
needed
in
there.
A
H
Okay,
so
then,
if
I'm
understanding
you
correctly,
there
wasn't
any
change
in
the
scope
of
work
or
the
amount
of
work
that
they
were
performing.
But
this
was
a
technical
error
due
to
some
of
the
changes
in
our
budgeting
process
this
year
because
of
covid.
I
B
G
N
B
Thank
you,
okay,
so
that
item
has
been
approved.
The
next
item
is
item
f,
which
is
a
request
for
approval
of
a
budget
adjustment
resolution
for
public
utilities,
department
to
fund
vacant
positions
through
the
2020
2021
fiscal
year
and
the
total
amount
of
2
million
940
and
219.85
cents
across
12,
public
utilities,
sections
councilwoman,
cassette
sanchez.
H
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chair.
Thank
you,
mr
jones,
for
joining
us.
First
of
all,
I
am,
I
am
excited
to
see.
We've
been
talking
a
lot
about
the
impact
of
being
understaffed
across
the
city,
so
I
am
happy
to
see
that
it
looks
like
financially.
We
can
move
forward
with
filling
some
of
those
positions
I
you
had
mentioned
in
here
about
you
know,
taking
a
conservative
approach
as
you
start
to
fill
the
positions,
and
I
was
hoping
to
hear
a
little
bit
more
about
that.
H
I
I
saw
that
our
revenues
and
public
utilities
are
actually
increased
from
last
year,
which
is
promising.
I
do
still
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
careful
as
we
don't
really
know
what
the
pattern
of
the
pandemic
is
going
to
be.
Hopefully
we
are
at
a
new
normal,
we'll
be
staying
here
for
a
while.
We
have
figured
out
some
ways
to
manage
the
pandemic,
which
is
helping,
but
I
do
worry
what
could
happen
if
we
do
see
additional
shutdown.
H
So
I
just
wanted
to
hear
a
little
bit
more
of
that
long-term
plan
from
your
perspective,
to
make
sure
that
we
are
not
going
to
wind
up
in
a
situation
where
we
are
not
able
to
fund
these
positions.
If
we
have
another
second
wave
that
causes
some
real
economic
hardship.
O
Mr
chair
counselor
sanchez
members
of
the
committee.
Thank
you.
I
think
that's
that's
a
great
question.
So,
as
as
we
were
working
through
budget
development
and
taking
a
conservative
approach,
we
worked
very
close
with
the
finance
department
and
developed
targets
based
on
the
most
current
information
at
the
time,
putting
a
hold
on
the
positions
putting
a
pin
in
those
until
we
really
understood
what
the
impact
was
going
to
resonate
through-
and
I
guess
apparently
based
on
the
item
that
was
just
approved.
O
Also
cutting
some
of
mike
dozier's
budget
to
meet
those
targets
were
some
of
the
approaches
right.
Anything
that
we
could
put
a
pin
in
until
more
certainty
was
developing
over
the
past
really
six
months,
really
working
with
staff
who
already
was
looking
at
certain
indicators,
but
how
we
monitored
the
data
and
how
we
ramped
up
that
data
entry.
O
So
so,
really
that's
what
developed
the
trends,
so
our
public
utilities,
financial
section,
our
account
specialist
and
our
senior
financial
analyst
right
every
week-
are
monitoring
data
that
comes
in
getting
the
getting
the
reports,
keeping
it
up
to
date.
I
give
a
lot
of
credit
to
jesse
roach
from
the
water
division
that
helps
analyze,
that
data
right
develops
the
graphs,
the
trends
that
make
the
data
usable
with
good
good
visual
indicators,
so
ultimately
being
able
to
look
at
one
all
right.
What
are
the
billables?
What
are
the
water
re?
O
The
water
use
water
drives,
not
just
the
water
divisions
budget,
but
the
variable
cost
for
wastewater.
Then,
of
course
billing
billing
is,
is
also
driven
by
you
know.
The
amount
of
bills
that
come
out
so
just
by
looking
at
the
water
meter
reads
75
of
the
utility.
O
Environmental
services
has
some
pretty,
I
would
say,
pretty
advanced
technology
in
the
rubicon
tracking,
where
trucks
are
how
fast
routes
are
done,
being
able
to
monitor
shipping
fees
and
manage
their
costs
so
really
over
the
past
couple
years,
some
of
the
innovation
that
utilities
has
done
to
put
some
of
these
tracking
metrics
in
place.
O
I
feel,
like
we've,
really
been
able
to
leverage
when
hard
questions
came
down
about
almost
real-time
real-time
revenues
and
then
chewing
those
up
against
projections.
Working
close
with
the
financial
department
so
again
over
the
past,
really
the
first
quarter
of
the
fiscal
year,
presenting
this
information
to
the
financial
team
and
the
city
manager.
O
Looking
for
a
recommendation
to
come
and
out
of
a
lot
of
things
that
we
put
pins
in
being
able
to
get
some
of
the
vacancies
posted
and
try
to
get
more
boots
on
the
ground,
people
to
provide
the
service
was
one
of
the
was
one
of
the
priorities
that
that
I've
been
working
on
to
bring
forward.
H
You,
yes,
I
did.
I
it
was
helpful
to
hear
some
of
the
innovations
in
your
tracking
and
how
that
is
assisting
with
budgeting.
So
I
did
appreciate
hearing
that
there
are
a
lot
of
positions
here.
Are
you
going
to
move
forward
with
filling
them?
I
mean.
Are
we
looking
at
posting
everything
in
the
next
month?
Six
months
are
all
of
these
on
your
list
to
be
filled
right
now
or
how
are
you
going
to
be
approaching
that.
O
Concert
because
I
said
I'm
just
really,
my
approach
is
working
with
the
divisions,
so
I'm
representing
all
12
sections
right
within
the
four
divisions
to
get
the
budget
posted.
To
be
honest,
that's
probably
one
of
the
easier
parts
right
that
I
can
do
to
help
to
get
budgeted.
Some
of
these
positions
are
hard
to
fill,
so
just
getting
them
posted
is
not
going
to
be
enough,
so
we're
working
with
our
our
teams
on
widening
the
net.
O
Some
of
these
other
positions
do
take
a
harder
look
right.
I
really
understand
why
they're
not
filled,
and
so
my
division
directors
are
working
with
the
hr
department.
To
really
understand
you
know
again.
Are
these?
Are
these
competitive?
Are
these
competitive
wages?
Are
the
minimum
requirements
really
minimum
requirements?
O
So
there
are
a
few
that
that
we're
still
working
with
the
hr
department
to
hash
out
some
will
have
to
be
aggressive
aggressively
searched,
I
think
some
can
be
filled
and
we
can
get
some
service.
So
I
think
it's
a
whole
spectrum
and
really
again
my
part
was
if
I
could
just
help
the
divisions
get
budgeted.
That's
one
more
hurdle
they
get
over
when
it
just
comes
to
posting
or
being
able
to
offer
a
position.
H
Wonderful
thank
you
for
that.
I
know
that
we
just
had
this
conversation
in
public
works
about
having
a
hard
time
filling
engineers,
because
it's
such
a
specialized
position.
Hi,
I'm
sorry
he
just
got
home.
So
it's
eager
to
see
me,
but
I
do
appreciate
you
guys
taking
a
look
at
the
competitiveness
and
how
we
can
make
sure
that
we
get
these,
these
positions
filled
once
we
get
them
funded.
So
I
have
no
other
questions.
I
really
appreciate
you
taking
the
time
to
illustrate
this
a
little
bit
further.
For
me.
E
A
quick
question
on
the
matrix
that
you
provided
us
with
the
breakdown
of
the
potential
jobs
that
would
be
unfrozen
and
that
we
would
try
to
fill
positions,
one
of
them
under
wastewater.
It
said
collections
and
that's
by
far
the
largest
request.
That's
nine
positions!
Can
you
remind
us
what
collections
was
again?
I
mean
in
relation
to
wastewater.
I
was
trying
to
figure
out
if
it
had
to
do
with
swama
or
can
you
can
you
clarify
that
no
actually
swami's
under
environmental
services?
Can
you
just
remind
me
what
that
was.
O
Yes,
mr
chair,
because
of
urls,
so
within
the
wastewater,
the
collection
system
is
the
underground
piping
infrastructure.
So
our
collections
team
are
the
vector
trucks,
the
routers,
maintaining
the
the
pipelines
and
reporting
to
stoppages
and
overflows.
O
It
is,
it
is
previous
to
crovid,
I
would
say
so,
probably
anywhere
from
six
to
eight
positions
vacant
within
that
section,
so
they
are
established
with.
I
guess
what
we
would
really
refrain
as
like
a
career
ladder.
O
O
The
hope
is
is
that
the
entry
levels
that
we
have,
which
I
believe
are
around
five
or
six,
that
many
of
those
individuals
will
move
into
the
basic
if
we
can
attract
some
from
outside.
That
will
also
be
great,
but
by
doing
that,
you
still
have
to
backfill
the
entry
level
to
actually
have
more
people,
but
right
now
our
need
is
in
that
certified
operator
level.
O
I
feel
we
have
several
lead,
which
are
level
two
certified
operators
and
entry
level
right:
the
individuals
driving
the
trucks
and
we're
needing
kind
of
that
mid
that
mid-range.
Some
experience
in
wastewater
that
we've
been
working
to
train
and
develop
those
entries
for.
E
So
is
that
the
field
operator
basic
that
you're,
referring
to
that
is
correct,
seven
positions.
I
think
one,
two,
three,
seven
of
them.
Okay,
I
think
that's
it.
I
just
wanted
to
understand
the
difference
between
the
various
positions
on
that
matrix.
That
was
helpful
by
the
way
to
just
break,
provide
us
a
spreadsheet
to
understand
which
positions
you're
considering.
So.
Thank
you.
That's
all.
I
have
to
do.
E
B
You,
okay,
is
there
a
motion
regarding
item
f.
B
E
Mr
chair,
I
have
quite
a
few
questions,
so
I'll
try
to
go
through
various
aspects
of
the
lease.
I
think
the
reason
why
we
really
wanted
it
to
go
through
committee
is
well
that's
the
normal
process
for
one,
and
I
think
it
just
works
out
some
of
the
nuances
that
we
needed
to
understand
breaking
it
down,
and
I
think
it
also
just
helps
the
public
understand.
What
are
those
pieces
in
this
particular
lease
that
changed
and
what
was
similar
to
the
last
lease?
E
So
I
think
it
was
a
matter
of
just
making
sure
we
go
through
our
due
diligence,
and
it
is
unfortunate
and
very
frustrating
to
me-
and
I
think
my
colleagues
to
to
get
this
so
late
and
to
get
it
at
council
so
late
the
day
before
the
the
lease
was
going
to
expire.
E
So
I
think
that
that's
important
piece
to
note
that
there's
various
aspects
and
reasons
probably
why
this
happened-
I'm
not
gonna
try
to
figure
out
who's
to
blame
for
it
other
than
here
we
are
we're
not
we're
not
closing
the
shelter
we're
not.
I
don't
think
we
are
endangering
any
services
that
are
needed
to
occur
in
the
shelter.
E
I
think
we
just
have
to
do
our
due
diligence
to
make
sure
that
all
the
pieces
of
the
lease
make
sense
to
us
and
also
trying
to
kind
of
figure
out
what
are
the
like,
larger
systemic
problems.
We're
dealing
with
that
are
also
connected
to
the
shelter
and
also
related
to
what
the
city
needs
to
do,
and
so
I
just
want
to
have
a
conversation
about
that
and
I'll
try
to
be.
E
On
top
of
all
the
things
I
have
to
ask
staff,
but
I
think
it
would
first
be
helpful
to
have
our
attorneys
go
through
specifically
some
of
the
changes
that
took
place
in
this
lease
agreement
so
that
we
all
understand
what
changed
from
the
last
one.
And
so
we
understand
what
what
the
implications
are
for
those
changes
and
the
justifications
for
those
changes.
So
I
don't
know
who's
on
with
us
right
now,
but
it
would
be.
Q
Helpful
mr
chair
counselor,
andrei
salazar
was
a
part
of
the
staff
that
helped
with
the
lease
what
we
shepherded
through.
So
she
can
answer.
Your
legal
issues
sounds
good.
R
Q
F
We
still
don't
hear
you
you're
not
shown
as
being
muted,
but
we
can't.
We
can't
hear
you.
Q
E
Yeah,
actually,
I
think
maybe
this
one
you
might
be
able
to
answer
or
kira
ochoa
may
be
able
to
answer.
There
was
a
change
that
you
could
probably
describe
to
us
that
I
think,
is
extremely
important.
That
was
added
into
this
cont
or
this
agreement.
It
relates
to
the
use
of
premises.
E
It
was
specifically
about
the
leasi
participating
in
the
coordinated
entry
system
via
the
new
mexico
coalition
to
end
homelessness.
If
you
could
just
describe
what
that
system
is
why
it's
important
who's
part
of
it
and
and
if
the
if
the
shelter
had
been
part
of
it
initially,
and
why
only
at
a
minimum
of
25
of
clients.
S
For
the
question
mr
chair,
councilwoman
bial,
coordinated
entry
is
a
system
used
nationally
by
all
shelters
that
receive
hud
funding
and
it
is
operated
locally
by
the
new
mexico
coalition
homelessness.
S
It's
essentially
a
data
collection
system
and
a
way
of
getting
people
housed
so
in
in
our
built
for
xero
work,
we've
referred
to
something
called
a
by
name
list.
S
Essentially,
a
good
coordinated
entry
system
provides
a
a
comprehensive
list
of
everyone,
who's
homeless
in
our
community
and
prioritizes
them
in
terms
of
getting
housed
and
asks
the
community
to
work
together
to
essentially
case
manage
them
to
figure
out
what
they
need
to
get
housed.
Do
they
need
an
id
they
do.
They
need
a
psychiatric
evaluation.
Do
they
need?
S
You
know
social
security
and
the
coalition
hosts
monthly,
coordinated
entry
meetings
and
basically
we're
working
with
our
partners
in
the
homeless
services
community
to
get
that
system
to
be
even
more
functional
than
it's
been.
I
think
it's.
It's
not
always
easy
for
providers
to
see
the
benefit
of
participating
in
that,
and
especially
a
culture,
a
shelter
like
interfaith,
which
sees
so
many
people
every
year.
S
S
You
know,
I
know
of
people
that
take
the
bus
down
from
house
and
can't
afford
to
stay
in
a
hotel
and
stay
at
pete's
for
their
medical
appointment
and
then
go
up,
but
there
are
a
portion
of
people
that
are
what
we
would
call
chronically
homeless
who
stay
at
pete's
and
those
are
folks
that
have
been
homeless
for
more
than
12
months,
and
those
are
the
folks
that
we
wanted
to
formally
invite
the
shelter
to
case
manage
with
our
partners
to
ask
them
to
really
put
concerted
attention
on
housing,
those
folks.
S
What
would
they
really
need
to
get
housed?
And
you
know
they've.
The
shelter
has
been
a
tremendous
partner
in
doing
this
informally
in
one
way
or
another,
but
this
solidifies
sort
of
a
formal
request
that
they
attend
those
meetings
that
they
identify
at
least
a
quarter
of
their
people
that
are
potentially
chronically
homeless.
There's
a
whole
series
of
you
know
qualifying
information
that
need
to
be
completed,
questionnaires,
etc.
S
That
qualify
people
for
vouchers,
which
then
can
get
them
into
permanent
supportive
housing
if
they
have
behavioral
health
issues,
and
so
it's
really
an
invitation,
a
requirement
that
that
petes
participate
in
that
system
of
ending
chronic
homelessness.
E
Yes,
it
doesn't
and
why
only
a
minimum
of
25
of
clients
versus
trying
to
capture
a
larger
percentage
of
their
clients
that
you'd
like
to
shelter
or
have
been,
as
you
said,
chronically
homeless,.
S
Mr
terror,
councilwoman
bial,
I
think
it's
a
beginning
of
what
we
would
like
to
see
happen.
This
lease
does
not
offer
financial
incentive
to
do
that
other
than
the
incentive
of
having
the
facility
itself
and
the
capacity
issues
that
pete's
are
real
in
terms
of
what
the
staff
deal
with,
and
so
this
is
a
this
is
a
more.
S
This
is
a
bump
up
from
what
we've
been
requiring
them
to
do,
and
it's
something
that
we
didn't
feel
was
appropriate
to
ask
for
more
than
a
quarter
of
their
people.
Also
it
a
quarter
of
their
people
might
be
about
right
for
how
many
people
are
chronically
homeless
there
right.
So
it's
kind
of
a
beginning
of
a
way
to
bring
them
into
that
that
fold.
There's
a
data
system.
S
You
know
that
that
we
were
kind
of
asking
them
to
participate
in
maybe
down
the
line
when
they
do
have
more
capacity,
but
this
is
a
way
to
address
them
doing
what
they've
said
they
would
want
to
do
all
along,
which
is,
you
know,
put
themselves
out
of
business
by
solving
homelessness,
and
you
know
that's
kind
of
the
focus
of
that
part
of
the
lease
hope.
E
That
answers
about
yes,
and
so
what
you
mentioned,
something
about
the
financial
aspect
of
it
of
participating
in
the
coordinated
entry
system.
What
do
you
mean.
S
Mr
chair
councilman
bial,
it's
labor
intensive
to
do
this
kind
of
participation.
That's
not
just
coming
to
a
meeting
once
a
week.
It's
really
working
intensively
with
clients.
It's
doing
a
lot
of.
There
are
a
lot
of
us
assessments
that
are
required,
and
that
kind
of
thing,
and
so
there's
no
we're
not
paying
them
to
do
that,
and
so
we're
asking
them
to
do
that.
You
know
as
contributing
with
us
in
that
effort
to
address
homelessness
in
the
community.
E
Well,
I
think
it's
an
important
piece
because
obviously
sure
it's
labor
intensive
but
there's
an
ultimate
goal
in
getting
people
housed
and
tracking
chronically
individuals
that
are
chronically
homeless
and
making
sure
that
we're
seeing
if
there's
transition
happening-
and
I
think
that's
important
to
know
to
know-
and
so
I
guess
when
I
think
about
that,
I
know
it's
a
lot
to
run
a
shelter
and
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
we
don't
know
about,
but
but
simultaneously
we
also
give
quite
a
bit
of
money
through
our
other
grants.
E
Our
grant
support
and
remind
me
what
the
amount
is
that
we
give
annually
through
our
grants
program
to
interfaith
shelter.
Mr
chair
councilman,.
S
Bierael
we
give
interfaith
150
000
annually
to
for
safety,
net
services
and
navigation,
and
so
they
are
using
our
they're
part
of
our
connect
network.
They
have
a
incredible
navigator
at
pete's
who
enters
as
many
people
as
possible
and
to
unite
us
and
then
refers
people
out
into
other
services
in
the
network,
and
so
that
is
the
annual
fee
and
we
have
a
two-year
contract
with
them.
Currently
that
ends
in
21.
E
Okay,
that's
that's
good
to
know,
and
I
think
it's
just
goes
to
show
you
that
that
is
the
investment
that
we
put
in
to
the
shelter
because
we
think
it's
important
service.
Obviously
I
mean
that's,
not
a
small
change,
that's
a
substantial
grant
and
it's
important
and
that's
why
we
do
it.
So
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
that
I
guess
this
falls
into.
Did
we
get
back
our
other
staff
where's
andrea?
Are
you
there?
Yes,
can
you
hear
me
now.
E
Can
you
walk
through
the
high
level
aspects
of
the
the
lease
agreement
so
that
we
know
what
has
changed
and
I'm
not
saying
just
the
substantial
changes,
but
just
even
some
of
the
tweaks
we've
made
in
response
to
some
of
the
things
that
we
think
are
have
been
important
for
us
to
consider
as
the
city
and
maybe
just
walk
us
through
that
piece.
The
the
different
aspects.
Thank
you.
P
Sir
chair
committee,
members,
one
of
the
things
that
you
heard
earlier
tonight
was
about
the
gatsby
program
and
modernizing
our
leases
so,
first
and
foremost,
we're
trying
to
take
all
of
our
old
leases
and
transition
them
into
modern
leases
so
that
they
all
have
similar
terms
and
we're
talking
about
both
our
commercial
leases
and
our
in-kind
leases.
So
that
is
one
of
the
most
important
steps
of
us
as
a
as
a
lease
team
to
move
forward.
P
So
in
doing
that,
we
did
take
and
look
through
the
original
lease
that
was
entered
into
four
years
ago,
and
we
made
substantial
changes
to
make
sure
that
it's
in
the
format
that
we
want
it
to
to
be
in
moving
forward.
One
of
those
substantial
changes
to
this
was
about
use
of
the
premises.
So
in
most
of
our
leases,
like
in
the
santa
fe
recovery
lease
that
we
have,
we
have
conditions
for
utilizing
our
premises.
P
The
other
provisions
that
we
have
in
there
are
about
who
is
coming
into
the
program
so
that
we
know-
and
we
have
some
type
of
tracking
as
to
what
the
criteria
is
for
the
individuals
who
are
going
to
pete's
place.
We
also
have
delineated
a
rent
section
that
talks
about
what
the
in-kind
services
are,
so
that
there's
some
type
of
assessment
tool
for
the
lease
team
to
utilize
when
they're
ensuring
that
interfaith
is
providing
their
rental
amount.
P
So
we
wanted
to
divide
that
out
and
make
this
a
a
tool
for
lease,
whereas
the
grant
is
the
tool
for
the
community
services
division.
So
that
is
why
we
we
placed
these
provisions
in
here.
So
some
of
these
provisions
are
ensure
clients
are
from
underserved
communities,
with
a
priority
serving
low
and
very
low
income.
Households
must
meet
the
service.
Guideline
is
delineated
in
the
rent
section.
P
P
Additionally,
we
have
provisions
like
lisi,
shall
deploy
security
cameras,
lisa
shall
staff
the
premises
24
hours
a
day
and
seven
days
per
week,
and
lisey's
residents
and
staff
shall
be
advised
to
park
where
they,
where
they
should
park,
just
so
that
we
are
delineating
what
is
going
on
in
this
premise
and
how
we
we
would
like
it
to
be
used.
We
also
have
delineation
of
improvement
of
the
premises,
trade,
fixtures,
repairs
and
maintenance
compliance
with
laws.
Those
items
are
specifically
identified
in
this
lease
and
underneath
our
premise.
P
So
there
there
isn't
necessarily
a
huge
change,
but
we're
reformulating
the
way
that
we
look
at
a
lease
and
that
that
is
really
why
they
look
so
different.
The
rent
provision
is
something
that
did
change
and
it
didn't
change
drastically.
What
we
did
was
because
we,
this
leases
to
serve
indigent
populations,
their
health
and
welfare,
which
is
an
exception
to
the
anti-donation
clause.
P
We
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
had
a
base
amount,
that
we
were
requesting
as
a
lease
amount,
but
since
there
was
a
2010
appraisal
that
the
previous
lease
was
based
on,
we
did
a
12.5
percent
increase
to
that
amount
and
place
that
amount
into
the
lease
as
the
base
rent
amount
and
that's
in
section
five,
we
could,
you
know,
get
a
fair
market
value
appraisal,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
this
lease
is
meeting.
P
This
leasi
is
meeting
and
exceeding
their
expectations
in
base
rent
amount,
and
so
we
felt
comfortable
that
this
is
this
is
their
base
rent,
but
that
could
change
and
upon,
if
the,
if
the
committee
desired
for
us
to
get
an
appraisal
and
move
forward
with
that,
we
could
do
do
that.
Let's
see
what
other
things
have
changed.
Q
P
So
the
term
itself
in
the
original
lease
was
a
one
year
term,
with
three
options
of
renewal.
So
three
one
year
options
to
renew
and
we
had
originally
drafted
the
lease
to
do
a
one-year
term
with
another
three
options
to
renew
in
our
negotiation
process.
When
we
sent
it
back
to
interfaith
attorney,
they
said
we
want
a
longer
term
and
they
originally
wanted
a
longer
initial
term
with
longer
three
longer
terms
which
I
believe
would
have
been
either
nine
or
ten
years
in
total.
P
We
wanted
to
shorten
that
amount,
but
we
understood
their
concern
that
they
had
explained
that
to
contract
with
different
parties.
They
needed
a
longer
term,
and
so
we
said
we
we
don't
want
to
exceed
four
years.
We're
trying
to
do
a
lot
of
different
things
in
the
city.
The
built
for
xero
is
one
of
them,
but
trying
to
find
a
more
permanent
solution
for
homelessness,
and
so
we
did
come
to
the
four-year
term.
P
That
is
also
something
that,
if,
if
this
committee
is
recommending
a
change
in
that
term,
we
can
make
a
change
and
communicate
with
the
parties
to
to
move
forward
and
see
if
they
can
move
forward
with
a
change
in
the
term.
But
that
is
why
we
have
this
one
block
four-year
term
we're
also
trying
not
to
exceed
four-year
terms
in
all
of
our
leases.
So
that's
kind
of
our
our
area
and
our
current
leases.
E
Thank
you.
So
there
was
a
question
last
week
from
councillor
rivera
about
inspections
and
making
sure
the
facility's
up
to
code,
and
I
know
we
had
gotten
a
response.
But
maybe
you
could
just
say
it,
because
this
is
public
meeting
to
just
express
what
was
discovered
from
that
question
and
just
to
clarify
what
who
would
have
done
that
making
sure
that
they're
up
to
code
and
when
did
that
occur.
P
Chair
committee
members,
I
believe
that
interfaith
did
respond
and
state
that
last
year
they
did
do
some
development
on
the
site.
They
did
change
the
structure
of
the
interior
of
the
building
and
had
to
have
a
fire
inspection.
I
believe
chief
babcock
might
have
some
more
information
that
he
could
provide
for
us.
T
I
do
thank
you,
mr
chair
councillor,
villarreal,
so
pete's
place.
Interfaith
shelter
had
a
inspection
done
on
september,
30th
2019,
with
no
infractions
that
was
done
by
the
city's
fire
marshal.
So
council
rivera
brought
up
the
point
that
the
state
fire
marshal
doesn't
the
city
doesn't
inspect
their
own
buildings?
T
There
is
a
written
agreement
between
the
state
fire
marshal's
office,
as
well
as
the
city's
fire
marshal
retired
ray
gonzalez
that
had
a
written
agreement
that
the
city
would
be
allowed
to
do
some
inspections
on
city
buildings,
as
well
as
the
city's
interfaith
shelter.
So
there
was
an
inspection
with
no
infractions
completed
on
9,
30,
2019
and
then
another
one
for
the
annual
inspection
because
of
the
assembly
business
type
on
10,
1
2020
with
one
respect,
one
reinspection
request
need
be
needed
and
that's
an
interfaith.
T
Shelter
needs
to
provide
documentation
that
their
alarm
system
has
been
maintained,
and
when
was
that
last
inspection?
What
was
the
date?
You
said
10
120.,
so
it
should
be
an
annual
inspection
2019.
It
was
done
on
9,
30
and
then
2020
was
done
on
10
1.,
so
october
1st
was
done
after
our
council
meeting.
Basically,
it
was,
it
was
the
thursday
after
the
council
meeting,
but
it
was
one
day
overdue
from
the
9
30
19
inspections
for
the
annual
inspection
to
be
completed.
E
So
what
I
what
I
was
trying
to
figure
out-
and
I
was
looking
at
the
lease
about
repairs
and
maintenance
and
that
the
leasi
shall
be
responsible
for
the
most
part,
is
what
I
understood
in
keeping
and
maintaining
the
premises
in
good
and
clean
condition
and
that
they're
up
to
code
with
those
repairs
and
maintenance.
But
maybe
legal
can
explain
to
me.
We
have
a
different
circumstance
for
other
buildings
that
we
lease
out,
and
so
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
the
difference
between
this
and
say,
like.
E
I
think
the
example
you
gave
me
andrea
or
I
don't
know
where
I
got
this,
but
the
like
la
familia,
there's
a
different
kind
of
agreement
and
understanding
about
repairs
and
maintenance,
and
I
want
to
understand
what,
where
our
responsibility
is
for
this,
and
if
we
have,
how
do
we
know,
repairs
and
maintenance
are,
are
done
annually
or
what's
the
check?
What's
the
mechanism
to
make
sure
that's
that
those
things
are
done
properly.
P
Chair
committee
members,
so
under
the
original
term
of
this
lease
under
repair
and
maintenance,
this
lease
what
has
been
and
is
continuing
to
be
that
leasi
at
its
sole
expense,
shall
keep
and
maintain
the
premises
and
shall
make
tenant
improvements
as
necessary
in
accordance
with
the
use
of
premise.
P
P
What
we
are
moving
forward
and
attempting
to
do
is
make
sure
that
repairs
and
maintenance,
as
well
as
utilities,
are
placed
upon
the
leases
not
upon
the
city,
and
so
while
there,
I
don't
actually
know
the
terms
off
the
top
of
my
head
for
la
familia
or
exactly
why
we
would
repair
and
maintain
that.
I
know
that
under
the
market
street
condo
the
portion
we
own
and
then
there's
some
there's,
there's
condo
responsibilities.
P
We
maintain
some
of
those
things.
I
think
every
piece
of
property
is
complicated,
probably
is
how
I
should
premise
this,
and
so
each
lease
dictates
how
those
repairs
and
and
maintenance
get
done.
Some
of
our
older
leases
have
provisions
that
the
city
is
maintaining
the
the
maintenance
right
now
we
don't
have
a
way
to
check
and
I'm
saying
an
itemized
way
of
saying
every
year
we're
checking
and
seeing
if
the
repairs
and
maintenance
have
done
have
been
done
correctly,
we're
leaving
that
responsibility
on
cid
and
when
they
get
permits
and
processes.
P
The
only
the
only
check
we're
really
doing
is
when
the
fire
marshal
checks
and
inspects.
So
there
isn't
a
provision
in
here
that
that
has
that
expressly,
but
they
have
to
be
in
compliance
with
the
municipal
code,
local
state,
federal
regulations,
and
so
that
is
what
we
are
are
putting
upon
them
is
that
they
are
in
compliance.
E
P
Chair
committee
members,
it
could
be
the
city
so
under
midtown,
when
you're.
Looking
at
the
midtown
campus
itself,
we
do
have
a
property
manager
who
is
inspecting
when
we
have
tenants
on
that
property.
Who
is
updating,
different
tenant
improvements
or
is
reviewing
tenant
improvements.
Currently
for
all
of
our
leases,
we
don't
have
the
same
measures
and
that's
why
we're
really
trying
to
work
on
this
lease
management
and
move
forward
with
having
one
way
of
moving
of
moving
forward
and
who
who
interacts
with
what
portions
of
the
lease.
P
E
Okay
and
since
we've
already
done
the
inspection
recently,
and
then
they
had
improvements
and
upgraded
their
kitchen,
then
the
entire
building
should
be
in
compliance
right.
It's
not
just
that
section
of
where
they're
making
an
addition.
It's
the
entire
building
that
gets
inspected
is
that
right,
chief.
T
Mr
chair
council,
mayor
of
arrow,
that
is
correct,
so
when
we
do
our
annual
inspection,
it's
entire,
the
entire
building,
not
just
any
renovations
or
any
improvements
to
the
building,
it
would
be
the
entire
building.
All
in
you.
E
Okay,
thank
you
and-
and
you
know,
I
think
we
want
to
know
this,
because
this
is
also.
This
is
really
specifically
for
the
safety
of
clients.
You
know
it's
not
like
we're
trying
to
find
something
wrong.
We
don't
want
to
have
anything
wrong
with
the
building
that
is
already
an
older
building
that
needed
improvements
from
the
very
get-go,
and
so
I
think
the
improvements
have
helped
with
the
space
and
even
with
some
of
the
limitations
of
that
space.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
we're
tracking
that
aspect.
E
I
think
it's
really
just
the
well
there's
another
piece
that
you
were
talking
about
parking
and
that
who
gets
to
park
in
the
structure,
lisey's
residents
and
staff
shall
be
advised
to
park
only
in
the
on-site
parking
lot
or
in
other
lawful
locations.
Can
you
define
lawful
locations
and
does
that
apply
to
volunteers
that
frequently
that
daily
come
to
the
come
to
the
shelter
and
where
do
where
do
they
park?.
P
Chair
committee
members,
in
terms
of
this
provision,
we
you
know
are
requesting
that
anyone
who's
working
with
pete's
place
park
on
the
premise
it
was
brought
to
our
attention
that
there
is
parking,
a
couple
doors
down
that
a
lot
of
staff
and
volunteers
utilize
during
the
day,
and
so
we
were
trying
to
ensure
that
there
isn't
an
overgrowth
of
parking
in
the
area.
Instead,
it's
on
site
or
in
in
parking
lots
that
a
butt
that
allow
parking.
E
So
are
those
agreements
with
where
are
those
parking
spots,
because
most
of
the
time
I've
seen
and
also
have
gotten
complaints
about
is
that
volunteers
are
parking
in
places
that
are
you
know,
businesses
that
didn't
approve
it
or
in
places
that
may
not
be
safe
for
their
cars?
I
don't
know
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
where
the,
where
we're
setting
the
parameters,
because
I
think
that's
an
important
piece
and
the
fact
that
the
parking
lot's
not
that
big,
and
so
I
wanted
to
understand,
although
I've
never
seen
it
full.
E
So
can
you
elaborate
on
that.
P
Chair
committee
members-
I
I
do
not
actually
have
the
answer
to
that.
I
think
that
the
lee
see
would
probably
be
the
best
person
to
answer
exactly
where
they're
directing
their
volunteers
or
staff
to
park.
We
just
wanted
to
identify
that
they
needed
to
be
either
in
the
parking
lot
or
in
lawful
locations,
and
so,
if
they
have
agreements
with
other
businesses,
we
probably
are
not
privy
to
that.
We
could
ask
to
be
privy
to
that,
but
we
were
solely
trying
to
ensure
that
they
weren't
parking
anywhere
unlawfully.
P
Q
Going
to
ask
if
miss
ochoa
could
maybe
address
that,
because
she
works
very
closely
with
the
the
shelter
and
maybe
can
get
an
answer
from
them.
I
don't
think
that
the
director's
on
this
panel
tonight.
S
I
I
did
invite
both
joe
jordan
branus,
the
executive
director
and
their
council,
so
I
don't
know
joe
if
you
can.
Q
E
N
E
N
Days
we
have
plenty
of
spots
because
we've
lost
a
lot
of
our
volunteers.
So
that's
not
an
issue
so
at
this
particular
point,
but
it
has
been
an
issue
in
the
past,
but
most
most
of
the
volunteers
do
park
here.
We
make
sure
they
we
park
them
in
various
arrangements
in
order
to
get
everybody
in
as
much
as
possible.
E
N
N
Well,
we
have,
we
did
try
to
negotiate
with
a
neighborhood
parking
business,
and
I
don't
know
exactly
where
that
you
know.
I
know
where
that
is.
I
don't
know
where
that's
at
this
particular
point,
but
we
did
look
over
one
of
the
businesses
down
surreals
to
see
if
we
could
buy
buy
some
slots
from
them.
E
Yeah,
I
think
that
that's
an
important
piece,
because
we
do
get
complaints
about
that
and
then
simultaneously
there's
a
lot
of
activity
happening
around
the
shelter
that
I
think
we
need
to
work
on
for
this
aspect
for
this
piece
I'm
going
to
switch
over
since
we
have
joe
to
talk
about
the
security
there's
language
in
the
lease
about
deploying
security
cameras
at
the
premises-
and
I
would
really
like
to
understand-
are
those
cameras
that
are
specifically
like
for
internal
purposes.
N
N
Share
we,
you
know
we
share
the
camera
videotape
with
them
all
the
time
whenever
they're
investigating
an
incident.
Looking
into
anything,
we
share
that
with.
E
Okay,
thank
you,
but
that's
not
a
new
piece
of
this
contract
is
it
to
have
security
cameras
on
the
premises.
N
Well,
I
I
don't
believe
it
was
ever
in
our
lease
agreement,
you
know
and
dan.
Maybe
you
could
answer
that
question
better
than
I,
but
but
now
it
is
in
our
lease
agreement,
but
it's
not
a
problem
because
we
we
value
the
security
cameras.
We
value
the
system,
we
use
it
all
the
time
and
we
work
when
necessary
with
the
police
department.
You
know
to
give
them
the
zip
drive
of
what
what
took
place.
E
Your
your
mute
is
on
councilman
viral
funny
how
your
finger
clicks
when
you
really
actually
want
to
talk.
So
sorry
about
that.
I
think
what
what
I'm
trying
to
the
next
piece
of
this
is
kind
of
the
elephant
in
the
room
that
we
don't
want
to
talk
about.
E
It's
a
challenging
piece
to
probably
any
place
in
the
country
right
now
that
have
shelters
that
are
people
that
are
very
much
in
need
of
services
and
our
clients
and
then
what's
happening
outside
of
premises.
Out
of
the
premises
that
aren't
the
responsibility
quote
of
the
the
shelter
and
of
interfaith,
and
I
think
what
we're
seeing
is
just
there
is
we
we
have
to
acknowledge.
E
There
is
a
symbiotic
relationship
between
what's
happening
in
the
shelter
and
the
protection
of
the
clients
and
what's
happening
outside
whether
it's
those
folks
that
have
been
thrown
out
and
are
not
able
to
use
the
shelter
because
they
have
not
followed
the
rules
and
what
I've
been
seeing
because
I
live
close
by
there
is,
and
I'm
hearing
also
from
businesses
and
neighbors
of
the
you
know.
E
Folks
that
are
are
there's
activities
happening
that
are
not
conducive
for
the
protection
of
clients,
they're
not
conducive
for
the
protection
of
the
neighbors
and
the
businesses,
and
so
what
I'm
trying
to
figure
out-
and
I
don't
know
how
it
fits
into
this
particular
negotiation
of
the
lease,
but
we're
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
solve
the
problems
of
nefarious
activities
happening
outside
of
the
shelter
I.e
right
outside
of
the
boundaries
of
the
shelter,
and
we
hear
different
things
like
no,
it's
not
our
responsibility,
it's
outside
of
the
premises.
Well,
legally!
Yes,
that's
true.
E
However,
it
is
the
responsibility,
because
it's
also,
I
think,
and
see
that
these
unsavory
characters
outside
of
the
shelter
are
also
preying
on
the
folks
that
really
do
need
the
services,
and
so
there's
this,
like
balance
like
how
do
we
make
this
work,
then
simultaneously
we're
hearing
about
how
there's
not
a
response
by
the
police
department
and
that
it's
not
timely?
It's
there's,
sometimes
they
don't
show
up
at
all
and
that's
what's
sometimes
happening
at
the
shelter
and
also
what's
happening
in
the
surrounding
neighborhoods.
E
So
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out-
and
I
think
my
colleagues
especially
councillor
lindell,
are
struggling
with-
is
trying
to
find
a
balance
so
that
everybody
feels
safe
the
clients
in
the
shelter,
the
the
neighbor,
the
neighborhood
that
was
well
established
there
before
even
the
shelter
came
into
play,
businesses
that
have
been
there
before
the
shelter
was
actually
located
there.
E
And
so
it's
really
hard
for
me
to
try
to
figure
out
what
the
solution
is,
because
it's
as
I
keep
saying
these
systemic
problems
that
we
deal
with
as
it
relates
to
housing
insecurity
as
it
relates
to
intergenerational
poverty.
And
so
I'm
just
wanting
to
see
how
we
all
are
gonna
kind
of
work
on
this
together,
because
since
I've
been
on
council,
this
has
been
the
ongoing
elephant
in
the
room
and
I
think,
there's
been
short,
short-term
ideas
of
ways
that
we
could
make
the
area
safer
with
lighting
with
sidewalks.
E
But
that's
not
really
dealing
with
the
bigger
picture
and
how
to
work
on
behavioral
health
issues,
as
well
as
trying
to
make
sure
that
pd
responds
in
a
timely
manner.
So-
and
I
don't
know,
who's
gonna
answer
this
question
because
it
does
relate
to
the
lease
and
it
makes
me
think
various
things
one
there's
been
issues
with
the
location,
not
because
of
where
it's
specifically
located
in
a
neighborhood,
which
I
think
is
problematic
on
some
level.
I
think
what
also
I
see
is
the
shelter
itself.
The
facility.
E
Given
the
amount
of
folks
experiencing
homelessness
and
what
kind
of
services
we
need
that
there
need
to
be
other
locations
too,
that
we
need
to
be
able
to
provide
that
it's
not
just
this
particular
shelter.
In
addition,
we've
had
deaths
because
of
the
fact
that
this
shelter
is
located
during
or
near
a
very
busy
roadway,
and
so
I'm
always
trying
to
figure
out
like
what.
E
What
have
we
thought
about
other
than
the
bigger
picture
of
like
systemic
problems
and
how
to
solve
them,
but
but
also
like,
if
we've
ever
actually
thought
about
a
location,
that's
large
enough
to
fit
the
needs
right
now.
E
What
other
things
we
could
think
about,
because
when
I
first
understood
about
the
shelter
it
was
never
going
to
be
the
permanent
fix
for
homelessness,
and
this
location
wasn't
necessarily
a
permanent
location
that
we
thought
would
solve
all
the
issues.
So
I
I
don't
know
kira,
I'm
not
sure
who
can
answer
this
question,
but
I
I
really
do
want
to
try
to
figure
out.
E
How
we
can
start
thinking,
I
I
mean
I
know
we
have
program
this
program
that
we're
trying
to
implement
with
the
built
for
xero
it
just
right
now
I
don't
feel
like
it's
working
and
I
know
it
takes
time
and
I
know
that
it's
slow
going,
but
you
know
just
the
fact
that
people
in
a
neighborhood
shouldn't
feel
like
they
have
to
live
in
fear
and
they
can't
even
walk
outside
their
sidewalks
or
they've
been
threatened.
E
I
mean
that's,
I
don't
think
any
of
us
would
want
that
and
because
we
don't
live
right
there,
we
don't
understand
it
and
people
think
that
that's
not
important.
But
it
is
important
because
people
in
neighborhoods
are
important,
as
well
as
the
clients
that
are
in
the
shelter
needing
services,
and
then
we
need
pd
also
to
be
part
of
this
solution.
E
So
I'm
kind
of
on
my
soapbox,
but
I
guess
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
what
we
can
do,
because
this
is
there
we're
all
in
this
together
and
the
shelter
is
also
part
of
this,
and
so
is
our
police
department,
and
so
is
our
service
providers
and
our
neighborhoods.
And
so
I
don't
know
if
anyone
has
some
insight
to
this,
but
it
it's
really
hard
to
deal
with
and
I
don't
even
live
on
harrison
road.
So
I
wouldn't
know
what
it's
like
every
day.
S
Miss
ochoa:
do
you
want
to
start
mr
chair
councilwoman
biarelle?
I
think
you
gave
a
very
comprehensive.
You
know
picture
of
of
all
of
the
issues
and
how
tied
into
each
other
they
really
are.
S
I
think
that
one
of
the
things
that
we've
been
able
to
identify
you
know
as
a
need
in
our
built
for
zero
work.
For
example,
is
we
really
have
a
gap
in
terms
of
coordinated
street
outreach
in
santa
fe?
So
we
don't.
S
We
have
wonderful
street
outreach
workers
sort
of
working
independently,
but
we
also
have
a
very
strapped
system,
so
some
of
them
also
do
work
at
pete's
with
clients
at
pete's,
and
what
we
don't
have
is
folks
going
into
the
surrounding
areas
around
pete's
and
beyond,
to
really
forge
those
relationships
with
people
I
mean
that
we
have
those
folks,
we
just
don't
have
enough
of
them.
It's
a
hard
job,
it's
hard
to
keep
them
and
we
don't
have
enough
of
that
happening.
S
So
I
think
that
putting
you
know
all
of
that
onto
the
shelter
is
not
realistic.
That's
something
that
the
whole
community
needs
to
come
together
on,
and
I
think
that
we're
beginning
to
do
that.
One
of
the
things
we're
going
to
be
purchasing
with
our
cares
act.
Money
in
the
short
term
is
this
mobile
hygiene
unit.
We
know
that
there
have
been
a
lot
of
hygiene
issues
and
the
surrounding
businesses.
The
mayor
and
I
went
to
visit
a
business
that
was
being
affected
by
people.
S
You
know
using
their
front
porch
as
a
toilet,
and
it's
really
not
okay.
I
completely
agree
with
you,
so
this
unit
will
help
address
some
of
those
needs
as
well,
as
you
know,
providing
a
way
for
providers
who
serve
homeless
folks
to
work
together
to
to
say:
oh,
that's
my
guy,
I
know
who
that
person
is.
Let
me
take
that
person
and
you
know
that's
and
let's
get
them
on
coordinated
entry,
let's
find
out
who
they
are,
what
they
need.
You
know
not.
S
Every
issue
can
be
addressed
by
outreach
by
case
managers.
As
you
know,
some
some
of
them
are
police
matters
and
so
getting
our
new
community
health
and
safety
department,
where
you
know
we're
all
aligned
toward
addressing
this
problem
that
hasn't
gone
away,
I
think,
is
another
very
hopeful
short
term
something
on
the
horizon
for
the
short
term,
and
certainly,
I
hope
the
task
force
will
will
address
some
of
this
as
well.
S
S
S
So
another
hopeful
you
know
sign
on
the
horizon
is
the
county's
crisis
center,
which
will
enable
emts
and
police
to
respond
to
somebody
in
crisis
on
the
street,
whether
it's
a
drug
issue,
a
mental
health
issue
both
and
bring
them
to
a
place
where
they
can
be
stabilized
where
they
can
be
assessed,
what's
really
going
on?
What's
the
really
most
appropriate
place
for
them
to
be,
you
know
the
interfaith
shelter
as
operates
as
a
de
facto
mental
health
institution,
and
that's
just
too
much
to
put
on
a
shelter
and
they
you.
E
S
Routinely
bar
people
who
are
violent
from
their
property
they're
very
diligent
about
it.
They
they're
very
committed
to
protecting
their
guests,
protecting
the
volunteers
and
to
the
neighborhood
I
mean
I,
I
will
say
that
I
think
joe
and
his
his
folks
can
talk
to
the
kinds
of
relationships
they've
foraged
with
some
people
and
then
some
businesses
and
others
in
the
community
and
others.
S
You
know
that
it's
been
harder
to
do
that
with,
but
I
think
that
it's,
I
think
the
sort
of
scope
of
your
question
is
right
on,
because
it's
very
complex,
it
has
a
lot
of
elements
to
it,
and
I
will
say
that
we
are
clear-eyed
about
what
those
elements
are
and
we
are
in
the
community
services
department
working
on
as
much
of
those
angles
as
we
can.
S
You
know
it's
also
remarkable
to
note
that
many
people
do
go
through
peats
and
they
leave
housed
and
employed
and
that's
a
powerful
testament
to
the
need
for
pete's.
We
have,
I
think,
four
people
that
were
recently
permanently
housed
out
of
the
shelter
who
went
to
hotels
who
got
housed
so
that
does
happen.
We
just
need
to
give
more
resources
to
that
actually
happening
and
support
that
actually
happening,
and.
M
S
The
pressure
valves
that
we've
created
in
standing
up
the
midtown
shelter
contribute
as
well
to
not
having
too
many
folks
at
pete's,
and
you
know,
as
the
lease
shows,
there's
a
limit
to
the
property
around
pete's,
and
so
it
is
a
community
issue.
It's
not
on
any
one
of
the
stakeholders
to
solve.
I
can
say
that
we're
working
diligently
with
all
the
partners
to
come
up
with
solutions
we're
going
to
need
a
way
to
fund
that
mobile
hygiene
unit.
S
By
the
way
we
don't
have
operating
expenses,
for
it
formulating
a
plan
where
you
know
both
government
and
private
entities
who
are
affected
by
homelessness
can
contribute
to
the
operation
of
that.
So
I
mean
I
could
go
on
and
on,
and
I
don't
want
to
take
too
much
of
the
finance
companies
time.
But
I
hope
that
comes
a
little
way
toward
answering
the
question
and
I
don't
know
if
it's
appropriate
now
to
invite
joe
to
speak
to
any
of
that
as
well
or
if
you'd,
like
that
count.
Chairman
councilwoman.
E
What
are
your
wishes?
Maybe
just
in
a
bit
we
can
hear
from
joe.
I
think
what
what
I
struggle
with
is-
and
these
are
all
in
district,
one,
saint
elizabeth
shelter
and
the
life
link.
We
do
not
get
complaints
the
way
we
get
complaints
happening
at
the
interfaith
shelter,
and
you
know
I've
asked
about
cenies
about
what
they
do
differently
and
they
tell
me
well,
we
don't
know.
What's
the
difference,
however,
there's
a
few
factors:
they
don't
tolerate
loitering
and
they
don't
let
anyone
hang
out
even
outside
of
the
property.
E
So
there's
that
and
then
obviously
there's
a
different
type
of
clientele
and
we
know
it's
needed
to
have
a
wet
shelter
and
that's
what
interfaith
does
and
joe
always
says,
come
as
you
are.
It
does
actually
exacerbate
some
issues
that
I
think
other
places
don't
necessarily
have
to
confront.
So
what
do
you
think
makes
the
difference
there
that
cenies
doesn't
have
loitering
and
hanging
out
at
all?
We
don't
I
don't.
We
don't,
and
maybe
counselor
lindell
can
correct
me,
but
we
don't
get
many
complaints
about
issues
happening
around
in
and
around
the
neighborhood.
S
Chairman
councilwoman
vietta,
all
I
think
you
put
your
finger
on
it.
It's
pizza
is
a
wet
shelter.
S
It's
a
place
where
people
who
have
substance
issues
actively
using
are,
you
know,
able
to
come,
and
that
has
a
kind
of
ring
of
concentric
circles
around
it,
and
I
think
that
you
know
that
does
require
a
higher
level
of
security
and
a
higher
level
of
attention
than
a
place
like
saint
ease,
and
you
know,
I
think
that
it's
true
that
I
know
that
joe's
staff
also
does
go
out
onto
harrison
street
and
does
ask
people
to
move
along
if
they're
not
being
good
neighbors,
and
you
know,
there's
a
there's
just
a
capacity
issue
there
as
well.
S
There's
a
you
know
where
the
people
inside
are
very
high,
needs,
outsider,
even
higher
needs
and
sometimes
dangerous
and
violent,
and
so
we
have
to
you
know,
sort
of
understand
that
there's
a
limit
to,
I
think,
in
my
opinion,
what
can?
What
can
go
on
beyond
the
first
circle?
You
know
they're,
as
I
s
you
know,
people
are
routinely
taken
from
las
vegas,
behavioral
health
state
hospital
directly
to
joe's
doorstep.
S
They
don't
have
a
psychiatrist
on
staff,
they
don't.
You
know
they
are
dealing
with
an
incredibly
high
needs
population
inside
the
boundaries
of
pete's,
and
so
I
think,
there's
so
much
that
they
can
do
that.
They
definitely
attempt
to
do
on
the
outside.
From
my
observation,
volunteering
and
you
know
in
other
ways,
but
I
think
that
you
know
it's
as
again.
I
think
it's
the
difference
between
a
wet
shelter
and
a
dry
shelter
where
that
saint
means
people
are
breathalyzed,
and
you
know
that's
part
of
what's
different.
E
Well-
and
I
also
think
because
of
that
vulnerability
that
that
the
people
that
are
not
welcome
in
the
shelter
and
interfaith
are
hanging
outside
preying
on
the
most
vulnerable,
and
that's
where
we're
like
missing
the
piece
here.
The
link-
and
you
know
I
talked
to-
I
got
some
numbers
from
the
fire
department
and
they
have
like
171
calls
for
the
fire
department
for
911
responses.
E
Just
for
this
year
I
didn't
get
pd
yet,
but
I'm
sure
that's
fairly
high
and
then
the
mobile,
the
mobile
integrated
health
operation,
the
the
program
that
we
have,
they
they
go
to
the
shelter
daily,
and
so
there's
a
lot
going
on.
So
I
guess-
and
I
don't
know
if
anyone
from
the
police
department
is
on,
but
I
want
to
know
what
their
commitment
is
to
handle
some
of
the
situations
that
we're
dealing
with
right
now
in
the
neighborhood
and
around
the
shelter
and
was
there
anyone?
E
U
Starting
on
saturday,
the
17th
of
october,
we're
gonna
have
our
pedal
bike
officers
in
the
area
up
until
january,
8th
just
to
kind
of
give
that
calming
effect
to
that
neighborhood
and
that
business
district,
given
the
circumference
or
radius
around
peats
that'll
cross
over
to
the
silver
saddle,
motel
jorgensen
ruffina
street,
to
address
some
of
these
concerns
give
us
that
seven
day
coverage
those
out.
Those
officers
will
probably
be
working
during
the
daytime,
but
we're
also
obviously
encouraging
the
graveyard
officers
and
swing
shift
officers
to
be
there.
U
But
the
component
that
we're
going
to
try
to
do
as
we
did
last
year
during
operation
helping
hand
is
working
along
with
mijo
program
and
getting
the
people
that
are
banned
or
not
banned.
Like
I
said
we're
going
to
take
come
as
you
are,
as
you
mentioned
a
bit
ago,
we're
going
to
help
everyone
and
anyone.
So
if
there
is
someone
that's
outside
and
they
are
banned
from
the
location,
they're
committing
a
crime.
U
We
know
that
being
homeless
is
not
a
crime,
but
if
we
obviously
catch
someone
using
narcotics
selling
narcotics
peeing
and
we
witness
it
in
someone's
driveway
or
nook
and
cranny
alleyway
and
we
witness
it
we're
going
to
take
them
off
to
the
jail
but
acknowledging
that
some
individuals,
if
they're
willing
to
accept
the
help
and
get
them
into
some
type
of
program
with
through
lifelink
or
connect
through
the
miho
program
through
the
thrive
program.
We're
going
to
definitely
do
that.
U
We
had
a
good
success
last
year
and
I
think
by
dedicating
these
officers
there
again
and
working
with
the
shelter
we'll
be
able
to
help
the
shelter
out
and
then
I'll
see.
Definitely
what
we're
all
concerned
about
is
that
community,
but
between
the
january
1st
of
2019
through
december
31st
of
2019,
we
responded
to
the
location
of
pete's
place
564
times
january
1st
of
this
year
through
september
28th.
U
We
have
responded
408
times,
so
we
are
definitely
going
to
be
there
in
that
area,
starting
october
17th
through
january,
8th
of
2021
just
to
give
that
calm
and
effect
to
that
neighborhood
and
to
dispel
one
rumor
that's
out
there
is
that
the
police
don't
respond
at
all.
That
is
totally
incorrect
and
I
understand
the
frustration
when
someone
may
say
that
police
never
responded
or
maybe
they
don't
see
a
police
car.
We
acknowledge
that
there's
many
calls
for
service
throughout
the
whole
city
that
drain
resources
or
the
or
based
upon
their
priority.
U
The
officers
are
responding
to.
So
I
understand
the
frustration
of
the
neighborhood
and
I
apologize
to
the
neighborhood.
But
if
someone
complains
and
says
that
the
officer
didn't
respond
at
all,
that's
totally
incorrect,
we
may
not
respond
in
5-10
minutes,
it
might
be
30
minutes
later
or
it
might
be
three
hours
later,
but
I
encourage
that
constituent
to
call
it
back.
The
dispatch
center
asked
to
speak
to
a
dispatch
supervisor
or
a
police
supervisor
who's
on
duty
and
say:
hey,
look.
I
live
at
this
location.
U
I
called
the
police
at
5
pm
reporting,
someone
that
was
urinating
in
my
front
yard
and
that
supervisor,
whether
it's
on
the
police
side
or
on
the
dispatch
center
side
should
say.
Yes,
an
officer
was
dispatched
at
six
pm.
They
searched
the
area
and
they
did
not
locate
anyone
and,
although
the
resident
might
not
see
them
at
least
the
supervisor
can
let
him
know
that
hey
look,
we
did
respond,
but
we
apologized.
It
was
one
hour
later.
E
Thanks
chief,
I
think,
what's
challenging,
though,
is
because
of
the
time
frame
and
because
the
officers
didn't
witness
it,
then
it's
almost
like
it
didn't
happen,
and
then
there's
nothing.
That's
really
solved
by
that,
and
so
I
think
I
mean
I'm
happy
to
hear
that
you're
gonna
have
a
team.
Did
you
say
it
was
the
vice
the
bicycle
team
that
will
respond
up
starting
mid
october
through
january
8th,
mr
chair
counselor?
Yes,
I
do
okay,
I
think
I
just
don't
yeah.
E
I
really
want
us
to
try
to
figure
this
out,
because
because
your
your
officers,
don't
witness
something,
then
then
it's
it's
almost
like
it
didn't
happen.
So
I'm
I
don't
know
I'm
at
a
loss
with
that
one
right
now,
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
a
way
that
there's
a
community
effort
and
that
there's
a
I
think,
it'll
help
to
have
that
regular
patrol
yeah.
I
guess
I'm
just
maybe
I
should
stop
talking
and
let
my
colleagues
ask
questions.
There
was
just
a
lot.
I
had
on
my
mind.
E
G
I
am
now
chairing
the
committee
for
councillor
beta,
who
had
to
step
away
for
his
for
professional
reasons
on
his
other
job.
I
guess
I
I
before
we
take
my
questions.
I
would
just
remind
everybody
that
we
do
have
the
opportunity
to
have
more
of
this
kind
of
conversation
at
the
quality
of
life
committee
on
wednesday
night.
G
I
know
counselor
lindell
sits
on
this
committee,
and
so
this
is
important
conversation
for
her
to
hear
so
I
I
recognize
that
it's
appropriate
here
too,
but
just
want
everybody
to
know
there's
more
time
for
this
conversation
on
wednesday,
when
the
quality
of
life
committee
grapples
with
one
of
some
of
the
same
issues,
counselor
cassette
sanchez,
you
have
your
hand
up.
H
Thank
you
very
much
council
romero
worth
yeah.
I
had
also
pulled
this
item.
Counselor
radar,
real,
thank
you
for
really
the
in-depth
questioning
you.
You
covered
quite
a
bit
of
what
I
wanted
to
discuss,
and
I
do
really
appreciate
you
starting
to
approach
this
very
hard
conversation
about.
H
You
know,
as
you
mentioned
the
elephant
in
the
room,
and
I
think
that
it
is
important
that,
as
we
have
this
conversation,
that
we
can
hold
both
truths,
that
the
shelter
is
necessary
and
provides
incredibly
crucial
and
important
work
in
our
homelessness
outreach
and
that
there
is
a
negative
impact
on
the
businesses
and
neighborhoods.
H
And
you
know
I
struggle
with
the
same
the
ex
counselor
battery
allen
that
I
think
that
we
all
are
struggling
with
is
who
and
how
do
we
start
to
address
some
of
these
impacts,
and
I
think
one
of
the
questions
that
I
don't
believe
that
we
are
going
to
have
answered
in
the
next
two
weeks
and
through
the
committee
process.
But
I
think
what
I
really
need
to
see
is
a
structure
for
how
we
are
dealing
with
this
problem.
H
I
don't
think
that
this
is
something
that
we
can
say
at
the
end
of
the
lease
we're
going
to
have
a
solution.
We
need
to
be
working
through
this
lease
process
to
be
identifying
what
are
some
of
the
solutions?
H
What
are
some
of
the
things
that
have
worked
and
that
haven't
worked
and
that
I
think
in
order
to
do
that,
we
do
have
to
both
have
this
very
honest
conversation
as
well
as
recognize
that
there
are
things
that
every
single
one
of
the
partners
in
here
probably
need
to
be
doing
differently
and
that
we
need
to
be
sitting
down
and
having
these
conversations,
I
do
want
to
make
a
pitch
as
well.
I
know
that
we
talk
a
lot
about
harrison.
H
We
talk
a
lot
about
jorgensen,
as
individuals
are
chased
out
of
those
areas,
because
sometimes
it
is
simply,
you
know
showing
up
telling
somebody
to
leave,
they
do
cross
cerrillos
and
they
they
come
over
into
my
district,
and
I
hear
a
lot
about
it
from
the
neighborhoods
that
are
across
the
rios
that
are
surrounding
franklin
miles
park.
I
know
that
we
have
extra
security
going
there.
The
park
on,
of
course,
losing
the
name
now
on
camino
carlos
ray.
There
was
a
mountain
lion
the
other
day.
H
That
park
is
also
a
hotbed
of
activity
that
I
know
that
people
will
trek
from
around
the
pete's
area
and
pop
over
there.
We
have
a
lot
of
issues
around
clark,
road
clark
court.
H
So,
as
we
are
talking
about,
you
know
what
are
the
surrounding
areas
that
are
impacted:
it's
not
just
the
directly
adjacent
properties
and
directly
adjacent
streets.
This
is
really
impacting
a
large
swath
of
community
that
is
around.
I
we've
just
had
a
meeting
with
a
ruffina
business
group
about
challenges.
They're
having
I
don't.
I
don't
know
how
we
track.
H
You
know
how
far
is
the
peace
and
again
I
don't
believe
that
we
are
going
to
have
answers
today
or
our
quality
of
life
or
even
by
the
time
we
see
this
at
council
again,
maybe
kira.
You
are
the
individual
to
help
me
understand.
H
Where
is
the
process?
Where
is
the
pieces
that
we
are
going
to
be
coming
up
with
new
solutions
to
try
in
the
next
three
to
six
months?
Because,
honestly,
it's
not
something
that
is
sustainable
for
these
communities.
Right
now
and
again,
I
want
to
emphasize
that
the
services
provided
by
pete's
are
crucial
and
I
do
not.
I
want
to
make
sure
that
those
do
not
get
sacrificed,
and
so
we
do
need
to
be
looking
at
these
solutions
and
I'm
I'm
curious
what
the
process
is
to
really
start
being
aggressive
here.
S
Madam
chair
council,
council
sanchez,
I
think
that
built
for
xero
does
offer
a
really
strong
framework
and
process.
S
S
Was
as
everyone
knows,
founded
because
there
were
21
hypothermia
deaths
in
the
the
year
before
it
was
began,
and
that
will
always
be
something
that
we
need
to
address
in
this
community
and
make
sure
it
doesn't
happen
in
this
community,
but
in
terms
of
a
process
for
bringing
all
of
the
partners
together.
I
do
have
faith
that
we
don't
have
to
invent
the
wheel.
This
has
been
done
in
other
communities.
S
That's
about
ending
homelessness,
that's
not
about
ending
crime,
though
you
know
that's
another
related
element,
and
so
I
think
the
process
of
us
of
the
fire
department
with
its
niho
program
and
also
its
entire
team,
devoted
to
health
and
safety
in
this,
in
the
form
of
making
sure
people
aren't
too
cold
and
have
a
place
to
go
during
cold
temperatures
in
our
code,
blue
policy,
the
police
department,
the
community
services
department
and
the
the
framework
of
emergency
management,
which
says
this
is
an
emergency,
because
this
is
what
we're
hearing
tonight.
S
S
So
just
I
mean
it's:
it's
not
a
very
abstract
thing,
but
when
you
have
a
shared
goal
and
you're
all
in
the
same
meeting
and
you're
all
at
the
same
table
and
you're
trying
to
say
well,
I
can
lend
this
resource.
I
can
lend
that
resource.
I
think
that
will
have
an
impact
on
this
issue
and
I'm
hopeful
about
it.
H
Thank
you
very
much
for
that
cure.
I
think
it
is
interesting.
The
timing,
considering
that
this
is
you
know
we
are
just
now,
bringing
all
these
parties
together.
I
will
be
really
curious
to
see
how
we
you
know,
I
ask
about
this
a
lot,
but
how?
How
do
we
measure
impact,
and
so
that
will
be
something
else
that
I
really
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
talking
about.
How
is
that
impact
measured?
H
I
know
that
there
are
components
of
we
can
measure,
call
volumes
and
some
other
pieces,
but
I
just
really
want
to
encourage
all
parties
involved.
You
know,
and
I
believe
that
the
the
county
also
does
have
a
role
somewhere
in
there
they're
there.
We
haven't
spoken
about
them
much,
but
I
would
encourage
to
ensure
that
they're
involved
too,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
everybody
is
thinking
about
how
we
need
to
do
things
differently.
I
think
that
we
frequently
have
this.
H
You
know
I'm
doing
a
really
good
job
and
it's
it's
true.
There
are
things
that
are
working
extremely
well.
There
are
things
that
are
extremely
necessary,
but
at
the
city
at
the
shelter
with
all
of
our
community
partners.
H
I
think
that
we
need
to
take
a
hard
look
and
say
there
are
things
that
we
are
doing,
that
we
that
are
working,
but
there
are
things
that
are
not
working
for
our
community
and
we
need
to
be
willing
to
be
humble
enough
to
say
we
all
need
to
be
doing
doing
more,
and
I
know
that
that
it's
hard,
because
we
are
all
resource
strapped,
and
these
are
extremely
extremely
complex
issues.
These
are
individuals
that,
as
as
kira
said,
there
are
high
needs
individuals
and
we
don't
have.
H
We,
unfortunately
do
not
have
the
resources
to
be
moving
forward.
H
Having
these
conversations,
I
think
that
those
chains
of
connection
are
absolutely
crucial
to
be
moving
forward
with,
as
council
romeroworth
said,
we
will
also
have
an
opportunity
to
speak
with
this
equality
of
life,
so
I
will
be
interested.
H
You
know,
if
there's
any
kind
of
thought,
as
people
are
mulling
over
this
in
the
next
couple
days
to
be
to
be
hearing
more
about
that,
but
I
think
setting
up
kind
of
a
process,
a
system,
whether
it's
you
know
best
through
quality
of
life
or
through
another
mechanism
for
us
to
really
be.
H
I
think
we
need
to
stay
on
top
of
this,
and
I
think
that
there
needs
to
be
a
system
in
place
that
we
are
are
really
staying
on
top
of
this,
of
making
sure
that
progress
is
being
made
and
that
we
are
asking
ourselves
the
really
hard
question
of
where
are
we
all
falling
short?
So
thank
you.
I
I
do
suppose
that
was
a
bit
of
a
soapbox,
but
again
counselor
vatarial
was
very
thorough
with
her
questioning.
So
I
didn't
really
have
many
more,
but
I
I
do
appreciate.
I
Thank
everybody
for
being
here
tonight
just
want
to
look
at
a
couple
of
specific
things
in
the
lease,
and
then
I
want
to
ask
some
more
general
type
questions
in
the
packet
item.
Six
is
no
individuals
who
are
acting
in
a
way
that
is
a
danger
to
others
shall
be
allowed
to
remain
on
the
premises.
I
Why
is
why
is
this
written
this
way
this?
This
doesn't
really
seem
very
comprehensive
to
me
or
that
it's.
Why
do
we
only
seek
assistance
when
they're
danger
to
themselves?
This
is
a
part
of
the
lease.
P
Terror
committee
members,
in
terms
of
the
lease
provisions
a
lot
of
these
lease
provisions,
we
grabbed
from
other
leases,
and
so
we
did
place
this
in
the
lease
in
thinking
about
overdose
and
thinking
about
people
who
are
suicidal
and
placing
this
in
here.
In
terms
of
that,
if
that
is
a
provision
that
the
committee
would
like
to
change
or
remove,
we
are
happy
to
do
so.
I
N
First
of
all,
we're
doing
all
all
of
that
already.
If
anyone
is
a
danger
to
themselves,
we
certainly
you
know,
call
from
the
ambulance.
We
send
them
to
the
hospital
et
cetera
and
if
they're
a
danger
to
others,
then
we
put
them
off
the
property,
so
that
already
is
in
existence.
Just
so
you
know
whether
should
be
a
part
of
the
lease
or
not.
I
I'm
not
sure,
but
but
I
it's
a
practice
that
we
do
all
the
time.
I
So
when
you
put
someone
off
the
property.
N
Where
do
they
go?
What
happens?
We
give
people
a
choice
and
the
choice
we
give
them,
because
most
incidents
either
involve
a
substance,
even
those
incidents
that
might
turn
into
something
violent.
So
what
we
do
is
the
choice
we
give
them.
If
you
go
to
detox,
not
necessarily
rehab,
you
go
to
detox
we'll.
Take
you
back
we're
trying
to
help
them
to
get
something
to
stick.
You
never
know
what's
going
to
stick
in
this
world,
so
we
give
them
this
option
that
you
know
you
never
have
to
be
out
in
the
cold.
N
N
To
detox
last
year
I
don't
have
that
figured
directly
in
front
of
me,
but
quite
a
few
went
either
to
detox
and
or
rehab
just
so
you
know,
and
along
with
a
whole
group
of
people
like
kirat,
who
have
been
housed.
I
Is
is
part
of
the
mission
of
the
shelter
to.
I
N
Find
housing
we
find
housing
for
our
guests
through
important
providers.
So
last
year
the
lifelink
and
the
va
were
the
primary
people
who
found
housing
for
many
of
our
guests.
Well,
over
a
hundred
so
and
at
this
and
some
people,
you
know
we
work
really
diligently
to
return
them
to
home
or
to
the
pueblo,
depending
on
where
they
came
from.
So
you
know,
I
think
we
were
neighborhood
of
about
150
people
last
year
who
were
housed
or
returned
to
family
or
pueblo.
I
Do
we
have
an
active
program,
active
communication
channel
all
the
time
with
the
pueblo.
N
I
have
contacts
primarily
at
sd
santa
domingo
that
I
utilized
actually
santo
domingo
for
a
long
time
had
their
spiritual
leader,
their
medicine
man
here
providing
counseling
for
their
guests,
who
were
here
from
santo
domingo.
Santa
domingo
is
one
of
the
more
traditional
pueblos
and
for
a
long
time
they
had
a
zero
tolerance
policy,
so
those
people
would
end
up
on
the
streets
of
santa
fe
and
subsequently
with
us.
N
But
I
have
I
have
a
connection
with
a
woman.
Has
that
changed
yeah
it's
changed
because
they
they
developed
a
wellness
center
on
the
pueblo
itself,
so
yeah
and
I
have
a
relationship
with
one
of
the
people
at
the
wellness
center.
I
also
want
to
say
just
so.
You
know,
because
we're
always
working
at
this
pms
has
provided
us
with
a
clinician
that
we
share
with
mijo
who
comes
to
the
shelter.
Pms
has
also
applied
to
the
health
funder
alliance
to
get
us
a
full-time
clinician
located
at
the
shelter
five
days
a
week.
N
So
the
fact
that
we
have
people
with
mental
health
issues
we're
working
really
diligently
with
the
appropriate
agency,
which
in
this
case,
would
be
presbyterian
medical
services
to
get
those
services
here
at
the
shelter.
I
Chief
padilla,
are
you
still
on?
Can
I.
N
Just
say
one
day
go
ahead,
go
ahead,
joe
sure
I
just
want
people
to
know
that
in
the
last
couple
of
days,
chief
media
myself
have
been
in
contact
about
the
officers
being
assigned
here
I
gave
him
a
list
of
the
people
who
literally
hang
out
on
that
street
those
who
abandoned
those
who
are
not
banned.
I
al.
I
also
gave
him
janelle's
phone
number
she's
a.
I
So
how
many,
how
many
people
will
be
on
the
bike
squad?
That's
going
to
be
over
at
the
interfaith
area.
U
I
Can
they
ride
separately
instead
of
all
riding
around
in
a
a
peloton,
which
is
how
I
typically
see
them
riding
around.
U
Yes,
that
is
correct,
they've
been
given
the
direction
they're
going
to
ride
separately.
When
you
see
them
there
in
the
downtown
era,
you
usually
see
that
public
safety
aid
trailing
along
with
them
that
public
safety
aid
would
handle
the
low
level
reports.
But
yes,
they're
going
to
be
writing
separately.
They
will
not
be
together
unless.
I
I
think
that
we
cover
more
ground
and
give
more
presence
that
way
we
met
a
while
ago
and
had
identified
a
list
of
10
to
15
people
that
were
chronically
loitering
around
the
shelter
that
had
been
told
that
they
were
not
allowed
to
be
at
the
shelter
we
identified
them
and
I'll
ask
joe
what
happened
with
that.
N
N
The
people
who
have
been
there
longer
are
working
with
the
mio
team
and-
and
I
also
identified
I
believe
I
did
chief
padilla-
the
people
who
were
working
on
me
so
but
a
lot
of
people.
You
know
the
population
changes
the
population
that
is
here
this
year
will
not
be
here
two
years
from
now.
N
One
of
the
things
that
I'm
concerned
about-
and
I
and
karen-
and
I
have
had
this
discussion
briefly,
which
is
there-
are
new
people
in
town
that
we
know
we
know
nothing
about
where
they're
coming
from
and
we
are
trying
to
get
a
handle
on
that
and
my
report
to
the
food
depot.
Actually,
I
identified
144
new
people
in
the
last
quarter,
so
we
are
trying
to
figure
out
where
these
people
are
coming
from
and
who
they
are
so
they're,
not
necessarily
going
to
be
at
the
shelter.
N
But
I
I,
but
there
are
going
to
be
if
you
drive
around
town
I
mean
I
drive
around
town
and
I
see
people
I've
never
seen
before
and
they
don't
necessarily
come
to
our
shelter.
Just
so
you
know.
I
So
I
appreciate
how
thorough
counselor
dia
real
was.
She
asked
a
lot
of
things
that
were,
on
my
mind
and
she's
right.
I
How
about
the
needle
exchange
program
is
that
really
working?
I
get
constant
reports
from
people
on
harrison
road
that
their
road
is
littered
with
needles.
We
have
not
had
a
needle
exchange.
N
E
On
that
point,
councillor
lindelt
sure
I've
seen
a
a
drop
box
or
a
needle
exchange,
or
I
don't
know
if
it's
just
a
drop
box
right
outside
your
gate,
not
us,
no
there's,
no
needle
drop
box
there.
Oh.
N
No,
we
clean
up
around
every
day.
I
have
staff
going
around
cleaning
around
the
entire
block
and
so
the
most
problems
we
have
with
needles
that
we
find,
and
it's
not
as
many
it
used
to
be,
are
across
the
street
where
people
hang
out
and
that's
the
area
that
we're
talking
about
monitoring.
I
So
how
long
has
it
been
since
interfaith
has
had
a
meeting
with
the
neighborhood.
I
Well,
I
think
that
it
might
be
time
that
we
start
to
have
those
meetings
on
a
pretty
regular
basis
with
interfaith
and
the
neighborhood
and
the
police,
because
certainly
the
people
on
harrison
road
have
absolutely.
I
I
I
I
also
think
that
we
probably
could
do
better
at
some
point
in
time.
You
know
I.
I
don't
think
that
that
the
current
location
is
so
special.
I
just
think
that
it's
a
location,
that's
used,
and
it
has
a
history.
I
mean
I'd
like
to
think
that
we
really
could
do
better,
that
it
could
be
a
workable
location.
It
could
be
a
building
that
is
better
than
the
building
that
you
have
now
that
we've
just
continually
try
to
upgrade
and
do
repairs
to
I
mean
there
must
be.
I
There
must
be
bigger
plans
of
having
all
the
needs
met,
of
what
a
shelter
needs
and,
and
I'm
not
convinced
that
that
building
was
just
a
building
that
continually
gets
renovated
and
changed
and
we're
trying
to
make
it
meet
the
needs
of
a
population
that
need
all
the
help
that
we
can
muster.
I
We
have
an
astounding
group
of
volunteers,
but
I
think
that
I
think
we
kind
of
keep
some
blinders
on
about
how
this
could
work.
I
mean
I,
I
sent
an
email
to
somebody
with
some
of
the
complaints
of
the
neighborhoods
and
the
businesses
and
and
their
reply
to
me
was
well.
They
knew
it
was
there
when
they
moved
there.
That's
that's,
not
a
good.
That's,
not
a
good
reply.
I
I
I
Those
don't
do
any
of
us
any
good.
It
doesn't
help,
and
I
hope
that
we
have
a
renewed
commitment
by
the
police
department.
I
We
had
a
meeting
a
number
of
months
ago
and
we
identified
people,
and
I
hope
that
we
can
re-up
the
commitment
that
we
had
then
that
somehow
seem
to
get
diminished
or
deluded
somehow.
I
G
I
G
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
As
I
mentioned
earlier,
you
know
we're
going
to
continue
this
conversation
wednesday
night
at
the
quality
of
life
committee,
with
a
different
some,
some
overlapping
counselors,
some
newer
sub
counselors
that
don't
sit
on
finance.
I'm
gonna
save
my
questions.
I
guess
for
then
and
wonder
if
we
might
entertain
a
motion
to
to
move
this
forward
to
the
quality
of
life
committee
as
it's
written.
B
Yes,
okay,
thank
you.
So
that
concludes
the
items
that
were
on
the
consent,
calendar
letters
from
staff.
B
B
Okay,
thank
you
matters
from
the
committee.
B
B
I
probably
learned
as
care
that
issues
like
this
would
have
probably
been
better
going
to
the
other
committees
first
and
then
maybe
finance
last,
so
we
could
just
focus
on
the
items
related
to
the
lease
itself,
but
given
the
time
crunch,
I
guess
that's
fine
that
it
worked
out
that
way,
but
I
will
be
more
cognizant
about
deferring
until
the
other
committees
hear
this
items
like
this
first.
Thank
you.
So
with
that
we
are
adjourned.