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A
A
And
and
we're
on
youtube,
so
let's
go
ahead
and
call
to
order
the
finance
committee
meeting
of
october
19th
at
approximately
5
p.m.
Can
I
have
a
roll
call.
C
D
A
Okay.
Thank
you.
The
next
item
is
approval
of
the
agenda.
Are
there
any
changes
from
staff?
No
changes?
Mr
chair?
Okay,
changes
from
the
committee
can
have
a
motion
on
the
agenda.
A
Yes,
okay,
so
that's
the
agenda
as
far
as
the
consent
agenda
are
there
items
that
we
need
to
take
off
the
consent
agenda.
F
Okay,
he
and
I'd
like
to
co-sponsor
jay
the
resolution
for
authorizing
and
supporting
public
works
applications
for
grants.
A
Okay,
so
so
you
want
to
withdraw
item
f
and
g.
You
said
yes,
okay,
great
any
other
items,
councilwoman
romero
worth.
D
All
right,
I'm
having
a
issue
with
primegov.
Where
can
somebody
help
me
with
the
item
number
for
the
cyc
funds,
all
right?
One.
A
D
Okay,
sorry
just
got
it
up;
no,
it
is,
I
believe,
maybe
it's.
I.
A
H
I
Also,
quickly,
item
h,
I
also
had
item
I
pull
to
pull,
but
thank
you.
Counselor
cassette
sanchez.
A
A
Okay
and
just
before
we
have
a
roll
call,
so
I
have
it
right.
Item
at
the
items
that
are
being
pulled
for
discussion
are
f
g
h
I
and.
E
A
Yes,
thank
you.
Okay.
The
next
item
is
approval
of
minutes,
but
my
agenda
doesn't
identify
which
minutes
are
there
miss
mccoy?
Do
we
have
the
date
for
the
minute.
C
Mr
chair,
if
carolyn
can
answer
that
question.
B
H
Okay,
can
I
have
a
roll
call,
please
counselor
carol,
romeroworth,
yes,.
F
Thank
you,
mr
chair
just
had
questions
because
I
it
was
not
in
our
packet,
but
it
was
emailed
to
us,
and
so
I
just
want
to
confirm
some
things.
I
wasn't
able
to
read
it.
I
read
it
quickly,
but
I
just
want
to
ask
a
couple
questions
about
that.
C
Us
about
that,
mr
chair
counselors,
the
funding
will
be
coming
from
the
general
fund
reserves.
F
Okay
and
then
was
there
a
need
to
have
to
pay
interest
because
they
were
late
payments.
C
Mr
chair
counselor,
the
irs
is
only
charging
us
for
the
back
taxes
for
calendar
year
2016
in
calendar
year
2017,
but
no
interest
or
penalties
were
were
incurred
by
the
city.
C
F
And
then
I
think
you
outline
kind
of
where
we're
gonna
be
headed
in
terms
of
correcting
procedurally,
how
we
would
make
sure
we
don't
incorrectly.
I
don't
know
if
it's
the
right
word
code,
employees
so
we'll
have
those
procedures
sent
to
us.
Probably
what
was
it
january?
I
think
I
saw
2021
so
that
we'd
have
an
outline,
an
understanding
of
what
what
those
procedures
would
be.
J
Mr
chairman,
councillor
via
rail,
are
you
talking
about
the
the
individuals
that
were
originally
considered?
Contractors?
Is
that
the
group
you're
talking
about.
F
Yeah
and
well,
I
felt
like
there
was
two
things
that
we
needed
to
change.
Policy-Wise,
and
maybe
you
could
just
summarize
that
for
us.
J
So
I
think
you
know
we
hr
and
finance
can
work
together
when
we
have
someone
who
to
determine
whether
they
are
truly
a
contractor
under
irs
regulations
or
they
meet
the
definition
of
an
employee.
J
I
I
don't
think
that
we
necessarily
need
to
develop
a
policy
that
would
mandate
that
we
comply
with
the
irs
regulations.
I
think
it's
more
of
a
business
process
to
ensure
that
we
are
following
the
guidelines,
so
I
you
know
I.
I
don't
necessarily
think
we
need
a
a
policy
to
comply
with
that.
I
Thank
you,
chair
burn,
I'm
wondering
if
you
could
put
together
for
us
some
kind
of
a
matrix
of.
I
Whether
someone's
a
temporary,
how
that
works,
how
many
hours
at
what
point
we
become
responsible
for.
I
Benefits
package
and
all
of
those
kinds
of
things
so
that
we
really
know
what
we're
looking
at
I
mean.
Certainly
what
this
council
knows
is
that.
I
These
aren't
these
aren't:
when
did
these
violations
originate?
When
did
when
did
what
was
the
origination
of
these?
That
that
we're
trying
to
take
care
of.
C
Now,
mr
chair
counselor,
the
original
violations
were
identified
by
the
irs
over
a
decade
ago,
back
in
2009,
when
the
when
an
original
audit
was
conducted
by
the
irs
of
the
city,
the
years
under
review
at
that
time
were
calendar
years,
2006
and
2007..
C
So
since
then,
the
city
did
not
correct
the
areas
of
non-compliance.
So
since
2006
and
2007
the
city
has
been
out
of
compliance.
So
when
the
irs
came
in
two
years
ago,
in
2018,
they
started
to
review
calendar
years
2016
and
2017
for
all
of
the
items
that
were
identified
in
the
memo.
The
worker
classification
piece,
as
well
as
the
taxable
fringe
benefit
piece,
and
so
it's
been
over
to
the
short
answer
to
your
question,
is
that
it's
been
over
a
decade
that
the
city
has
not
been
in
compliance.
I
Thanks
for
giving
that
information,
I
I
think
it's
important
for
people
to
realize
that
it
isn't
something
that
really
and
truly
anybody
in
this
group
has
any
fingerprints
on
we're
trying
to.
I
have
to
tell
you
that
I
never
I
I
came
on
this
council
in
2014..
I've
never
even
heard
about
this,
so
I
just
want
to
clarify
that
this
isn't
something
new
that
happened
in
the
last
18
months
that
we're
dealing
with
something
that
we
inherited
from
a
decade
ago,
which
the
numbers
are
certainly
far
from
pleasant.
I
The
timing
couldn't
be
worse
for
us
and
I'm
sorry
that
we
have
to
dig
ourselves
out
of
this
kind
of
hole,
but
I
I
do
think
it's
important
that
we
get
a
a
matrix
burn
so
that
we
can
do
as
good
a
decision
making
as
we
possibly
can.
B
Thank
you
chair.
That's
all
I
had
okay
and
councilwoman
romero.
G
Worth
thank
you,
mr
chair,
so
the
way
in
the
prime
gov
packet
that
we
received
last
week.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I'm
understanding
what
happened
here.
So
in
2009
there
was
an
audit
of
2006
and
2007.
G
We
were
at
that
time
told
that
we
weren't
doing
things
correctly
and
we
owed
back
taxes
and
at
that
time
we
paid
those
back
taxes
correct
mr
chair
counselor.
Yes,
that
is
correct,
okay
and
then
fast
forward
to
2018.
Prior
to
this
administration,
we
were
audited
again
or
as.
C
Mr
chair
counselor,
this
was
one
of
the
first
audits
that
I
started
back
in
2018
when
I,
when
I
first
began
with
the
city.
Okay,.
C
The
irs
came
in
and
notified
us
that
the
exam
years
would
be
for
calendar
year
2016
in
calendar
year
2017..
So
since
then,
over
the
course
of
the
last
two
years,
there
we've
had
an
ongoing
audit
by
the
irs.
Essentially,
what
that
entails
is
the
ir
like
very
similar
to
our
external
audit
or
any
internal
audits.
C
The
irs
auditors
requested
a
series
of
documents
and
information
and
data
from
the
city
over
the
course
of
the
last
two
years,
at
which
point
we
provided
that
information
and
had
updates
with
the
irs
auditor
about
the
progress
of
the
review
at
one
point
as
well
because
of
the
nature
of
some
of
the
non-compliance
issues.
The
irs
agent
that
was
assigned
to
us
also
met
with
the
union
leadership
for
afscme,
police
and
fire.
This
was
specifically
in
reference
to
the
issues
that
were
raised
with
non-compliance
for
the
taxable
fringe
benefits.
G
Okay,
so
what
so?
What
I
meant
to
say
is
that
this
audit,
in
2018
covered
years
prior
to
this
administration,
2016
and
2017.,
and
but
the
audit
was
conducted
at
the
beginning
of
2018
or
began
the
beginning
of
2018,
and
I
would
characterize
this
as
part
of
getting
our
house
in
order.
Among
the
many
things
that
we
have
been
doing
to
to
put
the
city
on
the
right
course
and
the
right
financial
footing
in
terms
of
how
we
do
business.
G
And
so
I
think
that's
why
we're
seeing
this
come
forward
as
those
proactive
attempts
to
audit
and
figure
out,
what's
been
done
correctly
and
what's
been
done
incorrectly
in
the
past,
and
how
do
we
kind
of
right
the
ship
moving
forward,
mr
chair
counselor,
that
is.
G
C
Long
two-year
process,
but
we
are
very
grateful
that
we
have
received
this
independent
review
from
the
irs
to
let
us
know
where
we
need
to
be
in
compliance.
You
know
going
back
to
more
than
a
decade
ago,.
G
Right
and
so
that
just
gets
me
back
to
so
we
knew
back
in
2009
as
a
result
of
that
audit,
that
there
were
things
that
weren't
that
we
needed
to
correct,
and
then
we
wrote
fast
forward
to
2018
and
nothing's
been
done
to
correct
it.
G
So
what
we're
being
asked
to
pay
today
is
for
the
fact
that
in
2016
and
2017
we
hadn't
corrected
the
systems
and
so
therefore
our
owing
that
that
tax
again
mr
chair
counselor,
yes,
that
is
correct,
okay
and
then,
as
I
read
through
the
memo
and
and
the
types
of
employment
that
this
affects,
I
mean
it's.
It's
things
like
fitness
instructors.
G
You
know
whether
we,
whether
we
care,
characterize
them
as
contract
workers
or
employees,
and
come
to
find
out,
we
should
be
characterizing
them
as
employees
and
we
were
characterizing
them
as
contractors
correct
mr
chair
counselor.
Yes,
that
is
correct
and
and
then
we
also
saw
an
example
in
the
courts
where
we
have.
We
have,
I
guess,
what
are
called
pro-tem
judges
and
it's
a
it's
a
funny
term,
but
it
means
basically
what
professional
temporary.
K
I
can
answer
that
chairman
abate,
the
councilor
meroworth.
I
think
that's,
that's
the
term.
That's
used
in
all
the
court
systems
for
folks
that
are
essentially
appointed
to
take
the
place
of
the
judge
when
she's
either
unavailable
or
has
a
conflict.
K
Chairman
of
beta
councillor,
meroworth,
that's
correct,
and
the
analysis
for
those
positions
was
a
little
bit
different
than
for
the
other
employees.
It
had
more
to
do
with
the
fact
that
those
employees
are
public
officials
and
all
public
officials
fall
into
this
category
that
needs
to
have
employment
taxes
paid
for
so
because
they
have
the
same
rights
and
responsibilities
as
our
regular
judge
when
they're
serving
under
our
charter.
So
the
charter
specifically
provides
for
them.
Then
they
have,
since
they
have
those
official
duties
and
powers,
they
can't
be
a
contractor.
G
You
know
what
impact
as
we
now
move
forward
and
correct
the
past
is
that
going
to
have
on
our
employment
situation
at
the
city
I
mean
I
so
there
may
be
some
employees,
whether
they're
fitness
instructors
or
pro
tem
judges,
who
you
know
maybe
they
have
retirement.
G
They
have
retired
they're,
they're
retired
and
therefore
they
can't
take
on
full
employment,
and
so
we
might
not
be
able
to
hire
them
for
things
that
we
need
at
the
city
anymore.
On
the
flip
side,
I
guess
that
that
you
know
helps
us.
It
provides
employment
opportunities
at
the
city,
but
we
lose
out
on
maybe
some
of
that
experience
level
that
we
might
get
with
people
who
are
retired
and
willing
to
work
on
contracts.
So
I'm
just
sort
of
curious.
You
know
what
is
what
kind
of
an
impact
does?
G
Does
the
change
in
policy
have,
or
is
it
going
to
have
on
on
our
workforce
as
we
move
forward
and
our
ability
to
hire
the
workforce
that
we
need.
J
Mr
chairman,
councillor
romero
wirth.
Those
are
some
really
good
points
that
you
raise.
What
we
can
do
is
work
a
little
bit
more
with
the
departments
who
are
who
will
be
impacted
by
this
change
and
determine
the
number
of
hours
that
they're
needed
a
week,
because
all
those
fine
details
go
into
what
the
policy
is
for
pera
hiring
a
retiree
from
pera
when
someone's
retirement
benefits
would
kick
in.
After
a
certain
number
of
hours
worked
per
week.
J
All
those
details
so
really
just
working
with
the
departments
to
determine
how
many
hours
they're
actually
working
to
fulfill
those
responsibilities
and
then
determining
what
that
can
look
like,
but
certainly
we
can
kind
of
do
a
same
matrix
that
counselor
lindell
talked
about.
So
we
can
identify
what
those
impacts
would
look
like,
because
there
are
some
exemptions
under
perra
where
we
might
be
able
to
still
employ
some
of
the
retirees,
but
there's
a
process
that
you
go
through.
So
we
just
need
to
understand
the
details
from
the
department.
G
Okay,
because
I
think
hi,
of
course,
hiring
people
means
that
we
have
to
pay
not
only
salaries
but
benefits.
So
it
does
have
a
fiscal
impact
on
on
the
city's
budget.
As
we
move
forward
and
as
we
now
have
to
hire,
people
as
employees,
which
you
know
is
a,
is
good
opportunities
for
for
many
people,
but
it's
different
budgetarily
than
the
contract
workers,
where
we
were
just
paying
for
their
time.
C
Mr
chair
counselor,
yes,
that
is
correct,
as
we
are
going
through
the
analysis
that
director
salazar
outlined,
we
will
be
also
analyzing
the
fiscal
impact
to
each
of
the
departments
to
each
of
the
funds,
so
we
will
be
able
to
if
there
is
going
to
be
a
need
for
another
budget
adjustment
for
the
operations
to
be
able
to
become
come
into
compliance
with
this
with
the
irs
code.
We
will
then
bring
that
to
council.
C
G
G
A
Okay,
councilwoman
cassette
sanchez:
did
you
have
anything.
D
No,
I
have
nothing
to
add
at
this
time.
Thank
you.
D
A
B
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
Just
a
question
for.
F
Staff
about
what
these,
what
the
expenses
will
entail,
and
I
appreciate
the
matrix
how
you
broke
it
down
with
postage
and
repair
and
maintenance
etc.
Can
you
let
me
know
what
the
is
this
the
same
software
and
itt
support
that
we
talked
about?
F
I
don't
know,
I
guess
it's
already
six
months
ago
that
we
decided
that
we
wanted
to
not
extend
it
for
a
year,
but
try
six
months
and
see
how
it's
going
and
also
if
we
had
funding
support
for
that.
L
Mr
chair
counselor
vrael,
so
this
is
the
portion
of
the
shortage
of
the
budget
to
get
us
to
the
350
000
for
the
first
six
months
right
so
yeah.
So
with
the
with
the
cut
in
the
budget,
there
were
you
know
our
print
company,
the
postal
pros
company
that
prints
the
bills
postage
the
itt
software.
L
Those
are
the
items
that
equal,
the
454
000
to
get
us
through
the
fiscal
year.
We
will
be
bringing
forward
in
the
not
too
well
in
the
future,
pretty
close
a
request
for
the
additional
six
months
to
the
itt
software
assistance
that
we'll
need
from
january
through
june.
Okay,
so
that
that
portion's,
not
rolled
into
this
request,
is
that
correct.
F
L
I'm
sorry
counselor.
No,
it's
not.
There
will
be
an
additional
request
for
potentially
the
350
000
for
the
next
six.
F
Months,
okay,
so
that's
a
separate
contract
that
you'll
be
bring
forth
to
us,
and
this
is
just
cuts
that
were
made
due
to
the
projections
of
the
budget
deficit
and
so
we're
rolling
these
back
in
now
that
there's,
where
is
this?
Coming
from
again.
F
Okay,
thank
you.
Let's
see.
F
L
Vrl,
you
are
correct:
we've
had
some
major
hvac
heating
and
cooling
system
problems,
some
burst
pipes,
some
overheated
electrical
issues,
and
so
these
this
additional
25
000
for
me,
an
additional
25
000
from
the
water
division.
Hopefully
we'll
get
the
hvac
system
and
the
air
conditioning
system
up
to
speed
with
new
piping.
You
know
the
the
up
to
up
to
date.
I
guess
you
could
say
by
code
old
pipes
of
course,
unfortunately
burst
so
we
have
had
to
maintenance
and
and
fix
that.
F
L
Well,
the
total
to
fix
the
hvac
system
is
50
000,
but
since
we
are
half
of
the
building
utility
billing
is
charged
25,
000
and
water
division
who's.
The
upstairs
is
charged
the
additional
25
000
and,
of
course
they
had
that
in
their
budget
I
didn't
have
it
in
mine
got
it,
I
got
it.
F
G
Councilwoman
romero
worth.
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
just
two
quick
questions.
So
in
the
memo
it
says
something
about
the
additional
phone
headsets
need
to
be
purchased
and
replaced
as
they
break
must
be
provided
to.
Can
you
continue
safe
working,
I'm
curious
about
why
they
break
I
mean?
Are
they
just
worn
out?
Are
they
not
good
ones,
or
it's
just
a
funny
phrase
there
as
they
break.
L
Yeah
mr
chair
counselor,
romero
worth
unfortunately
they're,
just
those
little
clip-ons
that
go
onto
your
ear
and
unfortunately
they
are
not
the
best
or
sturdiest.
I
guess
you
could
say
I
get
about
a
year
to
a
year
and
a
half
out
of
them.
I
do
have
nine
customer
service
reps
that
use
them
obviously
day
to
day.
So
I
I
try
and
keep
one
or
two
on
hand,
but
unfortunately,
if
I'm
replacing
three
or
four,
then
I
need
to
potentially
replace
three
or
four
every
year.
L
So
it
is
it's.
It's
a
equipment,
electronic
equipment
that
is
used
every
day
and
they
do.
Unfortunately
they
do
break
they.
I
don't
want
to
say,
get
stepped
on,
but
sometimes
there's
accidents
that
happen.
G
Okay,
it's
just
a
funny
phrase
in
your
memo
and
it
just
leads
me
to
believe:
do
we
have
the
right
ones
for
the
kind
of
use
that
they
get,
and
you
know
I
leave
that
to
you,
but
rather
than
just
continuing
to
buy
something,
that's
not
worth
having.
Maybe
we
need
to
upgrade,
but
again,
that's
I,
I
guess
that's
sort
of
in
your
wheelhouse.
My
last
question
is
the
hvac
heating
and
cooling,
so
I
think
we
just
approved
money
from
cares
act
to
help
with
with
air
filtration.
G
L
I
I'm
not
sure
so.
I
will
definitely
take
that
under
advisement
and
see
if
we
can
pull
in
some
of
that
money
and
make
sure
that,
yes,
obviously,
that
the
the
air
is
filtered,
it
is
an
older
building.
So
that
would
definitely
help
if
we
can,
if
we
can.
G
Tie
into
that
also
well,
because
I
I
know
you
also
mentioned
in
your
memo
that
that
your
people
in
utility
building
billing
have
not
worked
from
home.
They've
been
present
in
the
office
and
you
know,
seems
like
we
want
to
make
sure
as
we
move
forward
that
we're
paying
attention
to
the
air
quality.
As
we
know,
that's
going
to
be
important
now
and
in
the
future.
L
Ma'am,
we
definitely
will
make
sure
that
happens.
They
do
have
all
of
the
disinfectant
the
masks
the
shields.
You
know
anything
like
that,
but
absolutely
if
we
can
get
the
the
air
quality
better
with
filters
or
or
whatever
we
will
definitely
do
that.
G
G
J
A
A
Yes,
okay.
Our
next
item
is
a
request
for
the
approval
of
contract
amendment
number
one
to
professional
service
contract,
which
is
a
change
of
scope
of
work,
as
requested
by
the
contractor
saint
elizabeth
shelter,
councilwoman
lindell.
Thank
you,
chair.
I
I
just
would
like
an
explanation
on
this.
I
mean
it
appears
that
previously
we
were
offering
service
to
600,
unduplicated,
adult
individuals
and
or
families
at
166.67
per
individual
or
an
or
adult
family,
and
now
we're
offering
service
to
a
hundred
individuals
at
a
thousand
dollars
per
adult
family.
I
I
need
someone
to
explain
this
to
me.
M
Good
evening,
mr
chair
of
councilwoman
lindell,
this
is
lee
sanchez,
the
division
director
for
the
youth
and
family
services
division,
and
I
will
tell
you
that
when
saint
elizabeth
entered
the
first
year
of
this
professional
contract,
they
were
being
very
overzealous
on
the
folks
that
they
were
looking
at
serving,
and
this
is
pre-coven
and
actually
they
were
not
able
to
meet
their
contractual
obligation
of
serving
600
people.
In
that
first
year
they
actually
served
about
350
in
that
contract.
M
So
they
were
not
able
to
spend
down
their
funding
in
that
first
year
of
the
contract
in
the
second
year
of
con
of
their
contract,
which
began
july
1st,
because
of
covet,
they
had
to
significantly
reduce
the
amount
of
folks
staying
in
their
shelter
and
so
again,
they're
probably
going
to
not
meet
their
numbers
and
not
be
able
to
spend
down
their
contract.
M
I
Well,
I
can
follow
those
numbers,
but
we're
paying
six
six
hundred
percent
of
what
we
were
paying
before.
Would
it
make
any,
would
it
make
any
sense
that
we
reduced
the
amount
of
the
contract?
Mr
chair.
N
These
contracts
last
year
were
the
first
year
that
we
structured
contracts
on
a
deliverables
basis
using
asking
contractors
performing
safety
net
services
to
enter
the
connect
network,
and
we
knew
when
we
did
that
that
contractors
couldn't
fully
predict
in
their
budgets
what
navigation
would
really
take,
and
so
we
knew
that
we
might
need
to
adjust
some
of
these
contracts
either
up
or
down
depending
on
how
many
people
they
could
actually
serve.
There's
no
standard
dollar
amount.
N
They
proved
to
be
more
intensive
than
simply
end
people
into
a
database,
which
is
what
they,
I
think,
initially
anticipated
when
they
put
to
forward
their
budget
of
serving
600
people
they
really
drilled
down
and
began
to,
especially
with
the
pandemic
link
people
to
long-term
housing
and
to
really
do
some
intensive
case
management.
So
we
feel
that
this
formula
more
accurately
represents
the.
N
What
it
takes
for
them
to
serve
people
with
navigation
services
and
after
offer
the
safety
net
services
that
they
do
for
first
I'll
say
that
when
I
launched
these
types
of
contracts
in
the
connect
net
network
at
the
county,
every
contractor
proposed
a
different
dollar
amount
for
the
navigation
services.
But
by
year
two
of
those
contracts.
N
We
had
been
able
to
look
at
and
standardize
that
per
person
amount
from
a
per
person
amount
of
for
high
intensity
navigation
of
2500
a
person
and
for
lower
intensity
navigation
for
1
thousand
a
person,
and
we
do
anticipate
after
we
look
at
a
year
and
a
bit
here,
maybe
two
years
of
these
kinds
of
navigation
contracts
being
able
to
do
that
again
and
standardize.
A
dollar
amount
that
essentially
allows
the
non-profit
to
operate
and
provoke,
provide
those
safety
net
services.
N
I
Well,
it
is
it
just
you
know,
is
someone
trying
to
make
a
decision
about
these
contracts
and
these
monies
it's
very
hard
that
you
know
while
we
needed,
I
don't
know
if
they're
like
oh,
we
need
to
have
the
same
amount
of
money,
a
hundred
thousand,
but
we
got
to
have
it
just
there's
something
about
it.
That.
I
The
formula
of
it
doesn't
sit
well
with
me
that
we're
staying
at
a
hundred
thousand
and,
however,
we
need
to
get
to
that
number.
That's
how
we're
gonna
get
to
that
number.
Now
it's
a
hundred
and
a
thousand
dollars
per,
and
previously
it
was
kind
of
a
screw
ball
number
of
166
dollars
with
600
people.
So
you
know
it
could
have
been.
I
You
know,
maybe
200
people
at
five
hundred
dollars
per
it
just
seems
like
we're,
trying
to
find
a
way
to
get
to
this
number
of
a
hundred
thousand
and
the
hundred
thousand
isn't
based
specifically
on
what
the
cost
of
service
is
or
how
many
people
were
asking
them
to
give
services
to.
I
So
I'm
not
overly
comfortable
with
this.
I'm
assuming
the
term
of
this
is
one
year.
I
Yes,
okay,
I
don't
know,
maybe
someone
else
has
some
questions
about
it,
I'm
just
it
seems
like
we're
trying
to
bend
our
number
of
people
served
and
the
amount
that
it
costs
to
serve
them
so
that
it
equals
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
I'm
a
little
uncomfortable
with
how
we've
done
this.
A
N
A
Okay,
so
maybe
this
is
something
councilwoman
romero
worth
that
the
quality
of
life
committee
can
get
more
clarity
on,
especially
as
we
move
forward,
and
I
have
a
feeling
this
is
what's
going
to
happen
with
some
of
the
other
items
that
the
finance
committee
that
are
related
to
these
contracts
for
service
we'd,
like
the
quality
of
life
committee
to
really
vet,
and
you
know,
recommend
any
any
other
comments
from
the
committee.
D
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chair.
I
guess
with
some
of
my
experience
in
this
field
that
frequently
those
dollar
amounts
really
are
the
cost
of
service,
because
the
cost
of
service
is
your
staff,
and
I
definitely
understand
counselor
lindell's
discomfort
with
how
the
equations
have
moved.
D
But
I
think
why
I
do
feel
comfortable
is:
is
that
the
importance
of
the
paying
for
the
operations
to
to
move
in
and
the
lack
of
really
stability
of
what
those
operations
are
going
to
be
needed,
and
especially,
I
think
during
these
times
of
covid,
there's
just
not
going
to
be
as
many
people
going
through
saint
elizabeth,
as
we
have
made
sure
that
there
will
not
be
as
many
people
going
through
saint
elizabeth's.
So
just
wanted
to
add
that
comment
in
that.
D
I
I
don't
find
this
quite
as
abnormal,
but
I
I've
seen
this
frequently
that
really
what
you're
looking
at
is
paying
for
the
general
operation
and
it's
very
possible
that
for
the
same
amount
they
will
navigate
150
people
that
they're
not
going
to
stop
at
a
hundred
and
that
that
variation
may
very
well
well
occur.
D
A
Okay,
anything
else:
councilwoman
lindell,
no
okay.
What's
the
pleasure
of
the
committee
move
to
a
proof?
Okay,
we
have
a
motion.
Is
there
a
second
second
okay,
any
further
discussion
and
have
a
roll
call?
Please.
A
Yes,
okay,
so
that
item
passes
we
are
on
to
item
I,
which
is
a
request
for
the
approval
of
multiple
service
agreements
in
the
total
amount
of
three
million
seven
hundred
forty
nine
thousand
six
hundred
and
fifty
two
dollars
for
prevention
and
intervention
services
for
the
youth
of
santa
fe
for
three
years,
and
there
are
multiple
vendors,
councilwoman
sanchez.
D
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chair.
You
know,
I
think
this
question
slightly
is
on
the
same
level
of
looking
at
these
contracts,
as
I
forget
exactly
what
director
ochoa
mentioned,
but
basically
deliverables,
how
many
of
people
are
we
serving,
and
I
know
that
these
contracts
were
these
applications
came
in
pre-covered.
The
decisions
were
made
pre-coded
and
I'm
curious
how
these
organizations
are
adjusting
service
levels
if
the
targets
that
they
had
proposed
are
still
reasonable.
Given
the
current
situation
and
how
we
are
assessing
that.
M
Now,
mr
chair
counselor
cassette
sanchez,
so
it's
really
interesting
that
you
brought
that
up,
especially
given
the
contract
with
saint
elizabeth.
M
Unfortunately,
I
have
a
feeling
that
I
will
probably
have
to
be
back
in
front
of
you
for
some
of
those
contracts,
whether
it
is
to
reduce
the
contract
amount
or
to
figure
out
a
much
more
to
figure
out
a
better
target
for
some
of
these
agencies.
I
know
a
lot
of
them
because
they
are
deliverable
based
contracts,
have
gotten
really
creative,
with
the
way
that
they're
doing
programming,
whereas
other
contractors
have
actually
seen
an
increase
have
seen
some
increases
in
the
needs
for
their
services.
M
M
D
Okay,
thank
you
julie,
so
it
sounds
like
stay
tuned
and
we'll
get
more
information
about
about
how
these
things
develop.
The
one
piece
that
I
just
want
to
be
cautious
of.
D
I
know
that
these
are
three-year
contracts,
and
I
know
in
the
the
grant
making
world
that
there
is
frequently
this
motivation
to
spend
down
your
dollars,
because
there's
fear
that
if
you
don't
spend
your
dollars
that
your
funder
is
going
to
think
that
you
don't
need
those
dollars
and
what
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
communicating
with
these
vendors
is
that
if
they
are
these
contracts,
if
based
on
the
needs
and
the
changes
with
with
covid,
if
for
some
reason,
those
dollars
are
not
getting
spent
down,
that
we
don't
penalize
them
in
the
future.
D
However,
given
the
current
situation,
if
any
of
them
are
operating
in
a
place
where
those
dollars
are
not
going
to
need
to
be
utilized,
I
want
to
ensure
that
they
don't
feel
this
pressure
to
spend
the
money
or
that
we
will
be
taking
it
away
in
future
years.
So
as
you're
communicating
with
those
vendors,
I
think
that
or
the
I
don't
know
why
I
keep
saying
vendors
with
these
service
providers.
D
I
want
to
make
sure
that
that
is
is
communicated
and
if
there
are
dollars
that
can
come
back
or
maybe
go
to
the
innovation
fund,
which
I
imagine
is
going
to
be
very
interesting
at
this
time,
as
there
are
very
different
needs
in
our
community
or
perhaps
not
different,
but
more
highlighted
needs
in
our
community
and
and
different
ways
to
be
solving
those
needs.
D
F
Via
rael,
thank
you,
mr
chair,
just
wanted
to
see
a
piggy
backing
off
of
what
councilwoman
cassette
sanchez
was
saying.
F
I
guess
I'm
more
of
the
mindset,
because
I
work
in
the
foundation
world
and
we
give
money
out
to
our
partners-
is
that
if
you
all
had
been
considering
being
more
flexible
with
the
funding,
so
that,
if
there's
not
an
ability
to
meet
benchmarks,
but
the
organizations
are
actually
using
it
for
emergency
needs,
as
it
relates
to
covid
that
we
would
make
that
we
would
make
that
adjustment
accordingly
and
not
be
so
stringent
about
the
things
that
we
initially
would
be
if
we
were
in
the
regular
world
of
funding.
So
just
curious.
M
So,
mr
chair
councilwoman
villarreal,
so
we
really,
as
the
city
are
dedicated
to
making
sure
that
our
community
is
taken
care
of,
and
part
of,
that
is
making
sure
that
our
service
agencies
are
taken
care
of
as
well,
and
so
when
covet
began,
both
myself
and
our
data
consultant.
Aspen
solutions
really
worked
with
the
nonprofits
to
figure
out
the
need
not
only
of
the
community
but
also
of
the
agencies,
and
we
were
on
the
same
level
of
saying
you
know
we
don't
want
to
penalize
you
for
not
spending
down
your
funding.
M
But
how
do
we
work
with
you
to
be
able
to
serve
your
community?
Does
that
mean
you
know
allowing
funding
for
zoom
meetings?
Does
that
mean
allowing
additional
flexibility
for
how
these
dollars
are
spent?
So
we
were
really
really
trying
to
work
with
agencies
at
the
beginning
of
covet
and
it's
going
to
continue
as
we
you
know
continue
through
this
pandemic.
We
want
to
be
flexible
with
our
agencies.
F
Good
to
know,
I
think,
that's
an
important
piece
that
I
don't
think
we
do
as
good
of
a
job
and
there
are
also
restrictions
that
are
different
in
the
public
sector
versus
nonprofit
sector.
I
just
yeah,
I'm
hoping
that
we
can,
as
we
would
want
to
be
allowed
flexibility
with
the
cares,
act,
funding
and
whatnot.
I
think
we,
I
was
just
hoping
that
we
can
make
sure
that
that's
how
we
move
forward
and
I
trust
that
you
and
the
team
julie
and
the
team
will
be
able
to
make
that
happen.
Yeah.
F
I
don't
see
it
as
like.
Let's
hurry
up
and
spend,
I
think,
like
you
said
most
of
it's
going
to
be
spent
down
anyway,
fairly
quickly,
with
the
exception
of
some
of
those
service
providers
or
those
organizations
that
used
to
do
funding
in
in
person,
not
funding
program,
programmatic
work
in
person
and
so
they're
having
to
adjust
and
shift.
So
I'm
just
putting
that
out
there,
and
I
I'm
assuming
that
that's
going
to
take
place,
then
flexibility
and
working
with
our
partners.
I
Councilwoman
lindell.
Thank
you,
chair.
Just
a
couple
of
things
on
this.
I
had
reached
out
to
julie
and
kira
over
the
weekend.
Looking
at
this
and
kara
supplied
me
with
some
information
that
the
biannual
report
from
the
aspen
solutions,
I
would
I
would
ask
that
that
be
shared
with
the
entire
committee.
I
think
that
without
that
which
was
where
I
was
having
a
pretty
sizable
stumbling
with
this
request,
because
I
really
didn't
know
what
I
was
funding
other
than
just
the
numbers
that
were
in
the
excel
spreadsheet.
I
I
think
having
background
information
is
really
helpful.
The
other
thing
is
these:
are
three-year
contracts.
Do
we
have
a
a
maximum
number
of
years
of
award
to
these.
M
I
I
I
would
encourage
the
committee
to
look
at
that
so
that
we're
able
to
look
at
different
groups
and
also
that
no
one
group
becomes
too
dependent
upon
our
award
and
if
they
didn't
receive
a
word
on
award
that
it
would
completely
skew
their
budgeting
and
put
them
under
water
completely
that
they're,
depending
on
that
year
after
year
after
year.
So
that's
something
I
would
highly
recommend
and
I
I
really
would
like
to
have
the
aspen
solution
reports
shared
with
the
entire
committee.
I
think
that's
really
important.
I
The
next
thing
is
kind
of
ties
into
what
we
talked
about
earlier
and
that
is
probably
talking
with
byrne
about
this
type
of
contract.
I
mean:
does
this
type
of
contract
appear
that,
like
aspen
solutions
that
to
the
irs
that
they're
our
employees,
if
we're
hiring
them
every
year
into
perpetuity?
I
I
don't
know
the
answer
to
that,
but
I
think
that
it
is
something
that
in
talking
about
it
earlier
tonight,
I
don't
think
we're
interested
in
creating
new
positions
and
paying
people
benefits
and
pera.
I
Unless
we
know
that
that's
the
path
that
we
want
to
be
on,
so
that
probably
warrants
some
investigation.
I
certainly
don't
understand
the
irs
requirements
well
enough
to
say
anything
other
than
please
look
into
that.
I
do
not
want
that
to
become
a
problematic
area
for
us.
That's
all
I
have
chair.
Thank
you.
G
Thank
you,
mr
chair.
I
just
wondered
if
ms
sanchez
or
mr
ochoa
can
send
us
this
packet
material
and
a
pdf
as
long
as
you're
sending
us
the
aspen
institute
thing
this
chart
this
appendix
a
children
and
youth
commission
recommendation
funding
appears
up
and
down,
and
if
you
try
to
change
it,
you
can't
see
it.
I
mean
it
just
keeps
moving.
So
it's
you
have
to
basically
be
sideways
to
see
it,
which
is
frustrating.
F
The
good
thing
about
primegov
is
that
it
actually
allows
you
to
flip
the
screen
and
and
change
the
view.
Oh
really,
that's
probably
the
only
good
thing
about
primego.
Thank
you.
A
M
So,
mr
chair,
currently,
because
the
quality
of
life
committee
was
just
created
and
the
commission,
this
is
the
first
time
they're
doing
recommendations.
M
A
Okay
and
then
the
other
last
thing
I'll
add,
is
what
councilwoman
villarreal
had
stated
working
with
youth
myself,
especially
during
the
covid.
Our
numbers
have
gone
down,
but
our
responsibility
and
our
our
service
that
we
have
have
to
provide
has
gone
up.
So
it's
actually
we're
serving
less
children
at
the
boys
and
girls
club.
A
And
so
it's
a
it's
a
tough
challenge.
But
those
of
us
that
work
in
the
nonprofit
world,
like
councilman
v
rael,
said
we're
having
to
be
really
flexible
when
it
comes
to
the
way
we
do
things.
So
I
think,
as
long
as
you
keep
that
in
mind,
that
would
that's
that'd
be
helpful
for
those
entities
receiving
this
funding.
A
A
Yes,
okay,
so
that
item
is
approved.
Our
last
item
is
item
j,
which
is
consideration
of
resolution
authorizing
and
supporting
the
city
manager
to
work,
public
utility
staff
to
identify
and
apply
for
federal
and
state
funding,
sources
for
water,
wastewater
and
other
water-related
projects,
including
submission
of
an
application
to
the
water
trust
board.
Among
other
opportunities,
councilwoman
romero
worth.
G
Thank
you,
mr
chair,
is
director
mccoy
available
to
so
I
just
have
a
quick
question
on
the
financial
impact
statement,
which
I
think
should
be
revised
on
the
first
page.
It
says
at
the
bottom.
It
says
fiscal
impact
check
here
if
no
fiscal
impact
and
there
is
an
x
in
the
box-
and
it
seems
to
me
well,
this
does
not
have
a
fiscal
impact
in
terms
of
cost.
G
It
does
potentially
add
to
our
revenues
and
is
a
positive
for
our
fiscal
situation,
and
so
I
I
think
the
fir
should
reflect
that
and
I
I'm
just
curious
mary.
If
you
can
maybe
help
us
unders,
I
mean
fiscal
impacts.
Aren't
supposed
to
just
refer,
costs
aren't
supposed
to
just
reflect
costs.
Are
they.
C
Mr
chairman,
counselor,
that
is
correct.
They
can
reflect
both
operational
expenses
as
well
as
additional
revenue.
I
think
the
latter
portion,
the
additional
revenue,
is
really
what
we
would
like
to
add
to
the
fir
to
really
round
it
out
to
give
all
the
information
really.
C
What
we're
looking
at
here
is
the
potential
for
growing
the
revenue
sources
for
the
city
by
being
able
to
access
additional
grant
revenue,
so
we
can
go
ahead
and
add
that
additional
piece
of
information
on
at
this
point
we
don't
have
the
estimates
of
what
that
would
be,
but
I
think
it
is
important
to
note-
and
you
are
absolutely
correct-
there
is
additional
upside,
an
additional
plus
for
passing
this
resolution,
which
would
allow
the
city
to
access
additional
revenue,
expand
our
revenue
base.
G
G
So
I
do
I'm
not
so
I
just
want
to
be
clear:
I'm
not
looking
for
specific
numbers,
but
I
think
some
sort
of
statement
that
we're
going
to
grow
our
revenue
and
be
better
able
to
do
the
projects
that
we
need
to
do
and
therefore
there
is
a
fiscal
impact
and
it's
a
positive
one
and
that's
a
good
thing,
and
we
should
support
that
and
when
it's
time
I
I
would
move
that
we
pass
this.
A
G
A
C
Mr
chairman
counselors,
we
do
have
an
update
on
the
grt
reports.
From
the
month
of
august.
We
will
be
sending
everything
in
writing,
along
with
the
source
documentation
to
the
full
council.
But
at
this
point
what
staff
reported
from
trd
today
is
that
we
are
down
for
close
to
14
percent
in
grt
from
august
of
2019
to
august
of
2020.
A
Okay
and
miss
mccoy,
do
you
remember
where
that
falls
as
far
as
what
we
projected
when
we
budgeted
for
the
fiscal
year.
C
Mr
chair,
that
is
a
little
bit
under
if
you,
if
you
recall,
in
the
month
of
july,
we
were
about
a
35
decrease
year-over-year
because
of
the
one-time
payments
that
we
had
and
then
in
the
month
of
august,
now
we're
at
about
14
and
so
going
forward
in
about
a
month.
We
will
know
for
the
month
of
september
that
will
round
out
our
first
quarter
of
grt
revenue.
At
that
time
we
are
looking
to
provide
you
at
the
end
of
november,
our
as
we
traditionally
do.
C
Our
first
quarter
financial
update,
which
will
really
at
that
point
we'll
have
a
better
understanding
of
where
we
lie
after
the
first
quarter,
the
full
three
months
of
revenue
not
just
with
grt
but
with
property
taxes,
lodgers
tax
and
so
on,
and
so
forth.
Franchise
fees
with
all
of
our
major
sources
of
revenue
for
the
first
three
months.
A
Okay,
great
yes,
go
ahead.
G
So
I'm
sorry
mary,
when
you
say
it's
a
little
bit
low,
I'm
not
sure
relative
to
what.
What
does
that
mean?
Is
it
low
compared
to
our
projection?
Is
it
low.
C
Mr
chair
counselors,
our
our
projection,
was
closer
to
20
decrease.
I
can
get
you
the
exact
number.
We
can
provide
that
in
the
the
written
updates,
and
so
this
is
a
little
bit
lower
than
that
at
14,
so
percentage
five,
it's
not
quite
as
bad
as
we
thought
it
was
going
to
be
for
the
first.
A
Okay,
miss
mccoy
any
other
matters
from
staff.
A
Okay,
matters
from
the
committee
does
committee:
have
anything.
A
The
only
item
I
have
is
well
a
couple
of
items.
First
is
our
next
meeting
is
november
2nd,
and
I
would
ask
that
the
committee
be
available
for
a
special
finance
committee
meeting
potentially
on
november
16th,
so
that
we
could
hear
the
truth
and
reconciliation
committee
resolution
if
it's
ready,
because
I
hopefully
we
can
get
that
resolution
to
the
governing
body
as
soon
as
possible.
A
But
I
would
so
in
order
to
do
that,
we
may
have
to
call
a
special
meeting
of
the
finance
committee
in
november
if
quality
of
life
and
public
works
has
seen
the
resolution.
If
it
gets
paused
at
any
of
those
committees,
then
we
wouldn't
have
a
need
for
a
special
meeting,
but
if
it
goes
through
those
two
committees
and
finances
all
that's
left
before
it
could
get
to
the
governing
body.
I'd
like
to
be
able
to
do
that.
So
just
an
fyi.
A
Okay,
let's
see
it
is
606
the
dallas
cowboys
in
the
arizona
cardinals
kick
off
in
about
eight
minutes
and
miss
mccoy,
and
I
have
a
friendly
bed.
Well,
not
so
friendly
breakfast
right
is
on
the
line
for
okay.
A
Okay,
so
with
that
we're
adjourned.
Thank
you.
I
think
some
of
the
rest
of
us
want
to
get
in
on
this.