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A
A
D
A
Chair,
you
have
a
quorum
fantastic.
Do
we
have
changes
to
the
agenda
tonight,
no
changes
from
Steph
all
right,
any
changes
from
the
committee,
or
is
there
a
motion
move
to
approve?
A
A
A
I
can
wait
a
sec
while
you
get
that
councilwoman
vrl.
D
It
was
item
J,
the
budget.
Yes,.
A
Is
there
a
motion
to
approve
the
consent
agenda,
as
amended
so
moved?
Second,
the
motion
and
a
second
to
approve
the
consent
agenda,
as
amended
all
those
in
favor
aye.
Anybody
opposed
that
motion
passes
all
right.
We
are
on
to
our
presentation
from
our
finance
director,
Emily
Oster.
The
audit
update
for
FY
21.
A
C
It
away
thank
you,
madam
chair
and
members
of
the
committee
I'm
happy
to
report
that
the
work
is
continuing.
We
have
had
several
meetings
with
car
Riggs
Ingram,
which
is
our
external
auditor
and
Clifton
Marson
Allen,
which
is
our
consultant.
We
are
also
meeting
several
times
this
week
with
redw,
which
is
a
previous
consultant
who
did
some
work
on,
cares
and
arpa
and
other
things
for
the
city.
So
we've
got
all
the
different
parties
talking
to
each
other,
and
information
is
being
shared.
That's
very
good,
I'm
feeling
positive
about
that
communication.
That's
happening.
C
We
have
shifted
some
focus
with
the
Consulting
Resources,
with
CLA
to
accelerate
the
pace
on
the
cash
reconciliation
for
fiscal
year.
2022
I
know
that
that
has
been
presented
to
you
a
number
of
times
in
in
government.
Cash
is
really
key
and
everything
else
kind
of
flows,
all
roads
lead
to
cash
and
all
roads
lead
away
from
cash.
So
we're
focusing
some
additional
resources
from
CLA
on
cash
in
order
to
accelerate
the
progress
there
for
fiscal
year.
2022.
C
I'd
also
like
to
report
to
you
that
the
audit
committee
did
meet
last
week
and
Randy
Grissom
was
elected.
The
chair
of
the
audit
committee
and
today
is
our
first
day
live
in
version
2019.1
for
munis.
So
far
it's
going
very
well.
We
don't
have
any
major
issues
reported
that
I'm,
aware
of
and
the
transition
from
the
previous
version
to
the
new
version
of
munis
seems
to
be
going
smoothly
with
that
Madam
chair
I'll
be
happy
to
stand
for
any
questions,
great
questions.
A
Okay,
then
we
will
go
on
to
our
consent
agenda.
The
first
item
that
was
pulled
was
item
F
by
counselor
Lindell
request
for
approval
of
amendment
number,
one
to
original
contract
number
22-0511
with
Esa
construction
to
expand,
concrete
ramp
work
and
bathroom
Plumbing
in
the
amount
of
Thirteen
thousand
eight
hundred
twenty
eight
dollars
and
sixty
five
cents
for
a
total
contract
amount
of
297.
A
E
G
That
that's
a
good
question
and
I
took
over
as
project
manager
on
this
project,
from
my
engineering
supervisor,
who
started
as
project
manager,
and
then
it
was
overloaded,
so
I
took
it
off
his
plate.
But
this
is
the
first
time
that
I've
managed
a
project
in
our
building.
G
G
And
and
I
can't
speak
for
what
typically
we've
done
in
the
utilities.
Building
only
that
and
I've
been
in
my
position
three
and
a
half
years,
and
this
is
the
only
project
that
I've
been
part
of
in
that
building.
E
E
G
Counselor,
that's
correct
and-
and
this
issue
was
caught
or
was
pointed
out
by
the
architect
and
at
the
time
we
made
the
decision
that
the
the
ramp
that
we
were
putting
in
on
one
side
would
have
a
curb
and
that
that
would
be
within
code
and
acceptable,
and
we
didn't
know
how
much
extra
would
cost
to
to
sort
of
repave
the
entire
area
once
the
Construction
contract
had
been
awarded
and
the
contractor
was
on
site.
G
They
pointed
out
the
issue
again
and
we
asked
them
for
a
cost
to
go
ahead
and
repave
the
entire
ramp,
and
that's
where
we
got
the
13
000
and
within
the
context
of
the
overall.
Now
nearly
three
hundred
thousand
dollar
project
cost.
We
reviewed
it
again
and
staff
came
to
a
a
different
decision
that
we
would
go
ahead
and
pay
the
extra
work
to
to
prevent
that
additional
curve.
From
from
being
there.
E
E
A
A
Thank
you
all
right.
The
last
item
that
was
pulled
for
from
consent
is
item
J.
It
was
pulled
by
a
number
of
counselors.
Let's
see,
let's
get
to
Jay
request
for
approval
of
a
mid-year
budget
amendment
let's
hold
on.
A
We
have
a
variety
of
Staff
here
and
counselors
Lindell
vrl
Rivera
pulled
this
item.
I
don't
know,
should
I
just
call
on
one
of
you
or
somebody
itching
to
go.
First,
all
right,
councilman,
bayarl,
councilor
Rivera
either.
One
of
you.
F
Chair,
let's
see,
let's
start
with.
F
So
maybe,
if
you
could
I,
don't
know
who
could
just
give
us
an
overview
of
some
of
the
things
that
are
being
covered
by
this
this
year,
if
fiscal
year,
22
gross
receipts
tax
revenue,
what
what
kind
of
things
are
and
included
and
then
also
kind
of
how
we
came
to
make
a
decision
on
what
was
going
to
be
used.
C
Certainly
counselor
I'm
happy
to
do
that.
Madam,
chair,
I'm,
sorry,
yeah,
I,
think
that's
great.
Thank
you.
So
I
did
include
in
the
packet
materials
for
this
item.
A
summary
of
previously
approved
bars
using
unanticipated
revenue
from
fiscal
year.
2022.,
so
I
think
that's
an
important
point
that
I
want
to
make
as
we're
getting
started
on
this
item
is
that
these
bars
started
being
approved
during
fiscal
year
2022
and
then
they've
continued,
because
we've
had
additional
unanticipated
Revenue
associated
with
the
fiscal
year
that
ended
in
June.
C
So
this
is
for
the
closed
fiscal
year
that
ended
in
June,
not
the
current
fiscal
year,
and
it
started
during
the
fiscal
year
in
2022,
though,
which
I
think
is
causing
some
possibly
causing
some
confusion.
So
I
wanted
to
clarify.
F
F
And
then
we
started
going
into
what
I
think
is
fiscal
year
23
because
it
was
at
the
end
of
22.,
and
so
is
that
still
2021
or
sorry
2022.
C
Yes,
counselors
so
yeah,
we
collected
approximately
37
million
more
37.5
million
more
during
fiscal
year,
2022
that
ended
in
June,
June
30th
of
2022
than
was
budgeted
and
through
a
variety
of
different
bars
which
are
summarized
in
the
attachment
in
primcov.
C
22
million
of
that
had
been
approved
for
different
purposes
as
of
the
end
of
December
of
2022,
and
then
just
a
few
weeks
ago,
the
council
approved
an
additional
983
000,
which
is
also
reflected
on
that
document.
So
we're
not
utilizing
unanticipated
revenue
from
fy23.
This
is
still
the
amount
of
gross
receipts
tax
revenue
that
was
actually
received
in
fiscal
year,
2022
over
what
was
budgeted
so.
F
That
unanticipated
Revenue
gets
carried
over
into
the
next
fiscal
year.
It
doesn't
roll
into
some
other
kind
of
fund,
or
maybe
it
is
its
own
fund.
C
C
And
counselor,
so
what
happened
with
fiscal
year?
2022
is
These,
Bars
started
being
approved
during
the
fiscal
year
and
I
have
Andy
Hopkins.
Here
he
has
a
little
more
history
than
I.
Am
so
I'll
give
you
the
overview
and
then
Andy
can
kind
of
explain
a
little
bit
more
about
what
happened
during
fiscal
year
2022
if
I'm
not
able
to
answer
your
questions.
C
And
then
there
was
a
second
round
that
was
done
a
little
bit
later
in
fiscal
year.
2022
in
March
that
allocated
some
additional
funds
again
for
priorities
identified
by
departments.
Now
what
we're
doing
now
in
fiscal
year,
2023
is
different.
I
I
want
to
really
you
know,
draw
attention
to
that.
We're
not
utilizing
that
unanticipated
revenue
from
FY
23
this
time,
we're
still
looking
back
to
that
amount
that
was
collected
in
excess
of
what
was
budgeted
for
fiscal
year.
2022.
F
Thank
you
for
that.
It
it's
it's
hard
to
fall
track
because
we're
in
another
fiscal
year,
but
we're
still
utilizing
the
fiscal
year,
22
and
GRT,
and
that
was
unanticipated
okay.
F
So,
when
you
get
into
the
details,
let's
see
hold
on,
let
me
I
have
notes
in
each
of
these.
So
if
you
go
to
the.
F
There's
one
bar
for
the
Human
Services
contracted
homelessness
services
and
it
says
use
of
fiscal
year,
22
gross
receipts,
tax
revenue
to
fund
homelessness
service
contracts
and,
if
maybe
staff
could
just
give
us
some
details
about
that.
Specifically.
F
H
Chair
councilman,
yes,
thank
you.
So
the
memo
I
submitted
details
a
little
bit.
What
we're
thinking
with
this,
this
funding,
affordable
housing,
has
been
funding.
The
non-congregate
shelter
at
Midtown
Consuelo's
place
with
a
combination
of
arpa
money
and
cdbg
funds
that
the
agency
was
granted.
Alexander
Ladd
is
here
to
correct
any
mistakes
I
make
about
her
budget
and
what
I'm
saying?
Thank
goodness,
but
essentially
we
we
had
a
conversation
with
them,
because
this
Council
approved
our
arpa
funds
for
a
generalized
solution
to
unsheltered
homelessness.
H
So,
with
these
funds,
we
can
replace
the
funding
that
they
are
using
via
arpa
and
free
up
arpa,
which
has
more
flexibility
and
cover
the
the
operating
budget
for
the
remainder
of
the
year
at
Consuelo's
Place,
freeing
up
arpa
funds
in
affordable
housing
to
help
us
with
things
like
our
other
solutions
to
unsheltered
homelessness,
where,
as
you
know,
looking
for
a
new
location
for
non-congregate
shelter
in
the
city
of
Santa,
Fe,
we're
not
sure
exactly
yet
how
the
operating
budget
is
going
to
look.
H
F
Yeah
it
does
it
so
we're
replacing
what
we,
what
we
all
approved
for
arpa
funds
will
now
be
replaced
with
this
DRT
amount
of
six
hundred
thousand
and
then
we're
planning
on
using
arpa
for
potentially
say
Living
Spaces,
maybe
I,
don't
know.
F
H
If
safe
outdoor
spaces
become
viable,
that
could
be
used
for
that
director.
Sanchez
is
here,
she's
full
of
amazing
ideas
and
things
that
she's
exploring
with
our
new
staff
person,
Brittany
Rodriguez
who's
in
the
back
I'd
love
to
you
to
say
hi
to
her
she's,
going
to
help
us
with
homeless
service
programs.
Diversion
programs
have
proven
really
successful
with
one-time
money,
for
example,
where
you
know
people
are
able
to
be
reconciled
with
their
families
that
the
families
receive
some
financial
support.
H
There's
an
array
of
things
that
we're
actively
looking
at,
but,
yes,
the
cons,
the
Consuelos
cost
that
you
all
did
approve
in
the
affordable
housing
budget
will
now
be
replaced
by
these
funds,
and
some
of
it
has
been
used
on
the
affordable
housing
team
was
kind
enough.
To
give
me,
the
numbers
about
440
000
remains
for
the
rest
of
the
year.
Should
this
bar
go
through
so
that'll
give
us
a
nice
amount
to
work
with
on
an
array
of
unsheltered
solutions.
440.
H
Not
all
right
does
anybody
need
to
correct
me?
Okay,
thank
you.
F
Great
thank
you
and
then
I'm
shifting
to
the
market
station.
F
Oh,
this
is
so
fun.
It
seems
like
moving
staff,
which
I
was
like
it
didn't
seem,
like
I
thought
we
had
more
staff
at
Market
station,
so
maybe
you
all
can
kind
of
separate
how
everyone's
moving
and
then
also
explain
how
specific
that
plan
also
kind
of
fit
fits
into
this.
So
maybe
just
where
we're
going.
F
If
we
have
spots
for
everybody,
I
know
the
two
spots
in
Marcy
Street
and
if
you
could
say
that
I
guess
overall
I'm
trying
to
say
think
about
money
and
how
much
we're
paying
to
relocate
and
also
new,
rentals
or
we'll
be
renting
these
spaces,
and
is
it
saving
us
money
from
where
we
were
before
in
Market
station?
No
okay,
that's
a
no
I
I
see
in
the
audience.
I
Counselor,
chairperson,
good
evening,
the
the
actual
dollar
for
dollar
comparison.
Well,
post
post
move
the
dollar
for
dollar
comparison
of
rental
income
from
specifica
and
the
rental
income
for
the
two
properties
on
Marcy
Street
are
are
nearly
equal.
I
I
I
I
So
in
terms
of
well
and
then
I
I
would
also
say,
we
will
no
longer
be
paying
it's
my
understanding
again,
I'm,
not
part
of
the
negotiations,
but
we
should
no
longer
be
paying
our
share
of
the
common
area,
maintenance
or
the
market
station
Loft,
and
if
we
do
remain
responsible
for
any
portion
of
that,
it
will
be
a
much
smaller
portion
because
our
premises
will
be
confined
to
the
lobby
and
three
offices
adjacent
to
it.
So
that
is
a
a
net
benefit
to
the
city.
I
There's
also
a
fair
amount
of
ongoing
maintenance
that
takes
place
at
at
Market
station,
the
ownership
and
division
of
ownership
of
the
mechanical
electrical
Plumbing
Systems.
There
is
a
little
complicated
so
that
facility
sees
as
a
benefit
to
us,
so
I
see
just
just
logistically
it
being
financially
up
front
close
to
even
and
then
there
being
some
realized
savings
after
the
fact
I'm.
I
Only
one
part
of
this
process,
so
I
you
know,
would
defer
to
Mr
rich
brown
on
some
of
the
finer
details,
but
I
think
I
have
a
pretty
good
grasp
of
it.
So.
I
We
are
vacated
counselor,
chairperson,
we
are,
we
are
completely
vacating,
I,
don't
know
how
familiar
you
are
with
the
market
station
condo.
But
if
you
come
up
the
front
stairs
you
land
in
a
Lobby
straight
ahead
is
the
parking
window
to
the
left?
Is
the
offices
where
you
know
Public
Works,
community
health
and
safety?
Everybody
resides
and
on
the
right
hand,
side
there's
the
restrooms,
the
kitchen
and
three
large
conference
rooms.
I
All
of
everything
on
the
right
hand,
side
is
not
included
in
the
lease
with
specifica
and
we're
uncertain
what
the
future
there
holds.
I
do
know.
Specifica
has
requested
a
right
of
first
refusal
on
all
of
that
part
of
our
condo,
as
well
as
the
Boneyard,
but
neither
specifica
nor
the
city
currently
has
a
plan
for
the
use
of
that
space.
F
I
J
You,
madam
chair
I'm
counselor.
We
actually
store
records
there
quite
a
bit
of
Records
yeah.
So
there's
a
huge
land
use,
storage,
record
storage,
there's
also
parking
record
storage
there,
so
it
is
used
by
the
city.
If
we
are
sort
of
preparing,
as
Sam
said
in
case
I
write,
a
first
refusal
were
to
be
exercised
by
specifica
we're
preparing
to
get
those
records
handled,
hopefully
digitized,
so
we
could
get
them
out
of
there,
but
I
think
that's
all.
We
have
plans
for
there
directly.
I
I've
actually
been
helping
with
the
exhibits
for
the
lease
and
yes
you're,
absolutely
right.
They
will
be
using
all
of
our
existing
Office
Space.
F
All
right,
I
think
the
other
piece
I
wanted
to
understand
is
so
Public
Works
and
the
okay.
So
let
me
figure
out:
maybe
you
could
explain
where
everyone's
going
community
health
and
safety
department
is
going
to
Marcy
Street
Community
Development
Department
is
Marcy
Street
and
then
all
of
Public
Works
and
the
parking
is
going
to
Monaco
rabal,
correct,
okay,.
I
Just
yeah:
well,
yes,
thank
you
just
to
the
market
stations.
Public
works
yeah,
so
nobody
from
Seiler
nobody
from
syringo,
nobody
from
rufina
everybody
outside
of
Market
station,
will
stay
in
their
current
location,
but
Market
station
staff,
Public
Works
staff
will
move.
F
And
then
how
much
money
are
we
needing
to
support
the
reconstruction
of
Monica
Roybal
to
create
Office
Space?
So.
I
Our
counselor
chair
chair,
our
current
estimates,
are,
are
right:
around
200
to
250
000.
There
are,
as
we
move
down
the
the
path
of
executing
that
project.
Thank
you.
Gina.
I
Oh
yeah,
thank
you
300
for
Monica.
Excuse
me
as
we
as
we
move
down
the
path
and
begin
identifying.
Specific
offices
for
specific
staff
layout
changes
a
little
bit
here
and
there
so
there
there
is
a
little
bit
of
flux
in
our
plan,
but
that
our
current
estimate
is
right
right
around
three
hundred
thousand
dollars,
ideally
less.
If
we're
able
to
do
it.
F
F
I
So
I
don't
know
how
familiar
you
are
with
the
building,
but
when
you
come
in
to
the
front
lobby
on
the
right
hand,
side
there's
a
room,
that's
full
of
wooden
Cubbies
and
Our
intention
is
to
take
all
the
Cubbies
out
of
that
room
and
actually
build
enclose
it
and
wear.
The
doorway
now
exists
to
walk
into
the
cubby
space,
would
be
a
customer
service
window,
we're
working
out
specifically
where
the
entry
doorway
would
be.
It's
either
going
to
be
from
an
office
directly
behind
that
space
or
off
of
the
larger
room.
I
F
I
Ma'am:
okay,
no
Fleet,
thank
goodness
the
concrete
basketball
courts,
we're
gonna
stripe
and
turn
into
employee
parking,
so
direct
right
outside
of
the
building.
Okay,.
A
Kessler
director
Brown
had
his
hand
up
I,
don't
know
if
you
want
to
call
on
him
and
I
do
just
want
to
note
that
it
is
5
30.
We
have
two
other
counselors
and
a
meeting
that
starts
at
six.
B
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
members
of
the
council.
Thank
you.
I
just
had
one
thing
to
add
to
director
Burnett.
He
had
said
that
there
was
a
hundred
thousand
dollar
Gap
in
this
move.
There's
a
liability
for
City,
but
actually
the
hundred
thousand
dollars
is
being
funded
from
The
Economic
Development
Fund,
because
this
is
an
economic
development,
business
expansion,
so
we're
making
up
that
one
hundred
thousand
dollar
Gap
so
that'll
give
us
the
600
000.
We
need
to
fulfill
this.
This
move
coming
up
if
approved,
got.
F
I
Counselor
chair
parking,
a
certain
amount
of
parking
is
already
included.
Well,
parking
is
allocated
per
square
foot
and
then
there's
a
fee
for
additional
parking
spaces
in
that
garage.
That's
that's
nominal
and
we
believe
all
the
required
parking
will
be
included
in
our
lease,
and
employees
will
not
be
paying
for
parking.
I
F
Does
any
staff
know
if
that's
confirmed
if
parking
it
is
will
be
included
in
the
lease.
B
B
If
I
could
I
don't
Mr
lease,
is
there
but
I
think
there's
eight
spaces
per
floor,
but
we
also
have
parking
at
the
convention
center,
so
we
have
within
a
block
and
a
half
away.
So
okay,
but
there
are
I,
think
eight
spaces
per
floor
based
upon
our
square
footage.
F
I
F
E
I
Counselor
chair:
no,
we
have
not
signed
the
lease,
yet
the
lease
is
I.
Forget
the
specific
finance
committee
and
Public
Works
committee
dates,
but
I
do
know
the
governing
body
date
for
that
lease
to
appear
is
the
8th
of
February.
So.
G
J
Chair
counselor,
if
I
could
add
a
little
bit,
the
in
the
intention
is
to
have
the
governing
body
approve
the
specifically
first,
because
that
is
what
requires
the
move,
so
it
would
be
kind
of
wouldn't
make
sense
to
sign
up
to
lease
new
space
if
there
was
a
question
about
the
specifically
so
we're
trying
to
make
those
go
exactly
the
same
time,.
E
This
is
my
concern.
I
understand
that
we're
moving
out
of
Market
station
I,
don't
understand,
and
it
seems
like
most
people
that
are
moving
out
a
market
station
are
going
to
Monica.
Roy
ball
is
that
true.
J
Madam,
chair,
counselor
Lindell,
it's
on
your
memo.
It's
about!
There's
26,
going
to
the
Marcy
and
there's
32
going
to
the
Monica
robelle.
So
it
is
a
and
is
a
majority.
The.
E
They're
all
housed
at
markets
station
right
now
correct.
E
My
concern
is
that
is
it
necessary
for
us
to
rent
space
downtown
I
mean
it's
some
of
the
most
expensive
space
possible
and
we
have
a
campus
with
lots
and
lots
and
lots
of
space
on
it.
So
what
is
the
rent
at
Marcy
Street
for
both
of
those
spaces
per
month?.
J
Madam,
chair
and
counselor
Lindell
I'll,
let
Sam
or
Rich
answer
the
specific
dollar
amount,
but
we
we
did
do
an
assessment
of
our
needs
and
one
of
the
things
that
ends
up
being
a
benefit
about
this
move
is
to
bring
together
the
community
health
and
safety
leadership
team
and
to
get
them
closer
to
city
hall.
J
So
one
of
the
goals
of
this
move
was
to
you,
know,
take
lemons
and
make
lemonade
and
let's
get
closer
to
City
Hall,
if
we
possibly
could
with
the
leadership
team
of
community
health
and
safety,
so
that
and
as
well
and
you'll,
see
the
same
thing
with
the
Community
Development
Department.
So
but
we
did
first
start
looking
at
Midtown.
We
thought
well,
let's
go
with
the
visual
arts
center
and
let's
move
everybody
there
and
let's
really
make
some
lemonade,
but
that
that
building
has
extensive
remodeling
requirements.
J
J
First,
there's
nothing
that
was
economical,
And
Timely
and
made
sense
with
our
development
plan
for
Midtown,
and
then
we
also
looked
at
the
needs
for
a
good
functioning
city,
government
and
closer
to
downtown
was
was
much
better
and
so
and,
as
Sam
said,
that
then
sort
of
net
net
on
the
rent
prices
and
the
lease
revenue
is
is
about
zero
or
it's
darn
close
to
equal,
and
so
we
get
to
meet
our
needs
as
an
organization
as
well
as
have
sort
of
a
equal
exchange
for
these
expense
versus
Revenue.
B
Council
window
Community
Services
team,
the
leadership
for
community
health
and
safety
I
think
those
are
the
two
that
are
coming
community
services
department
and
then
the
lead.
The
leadership
from
community
health
and
safety.
A
Rich
we
have
director
director.
F
H
Madam,
chair,
counselor,
Lindell
rich,
is
correct:
the
community
health
and
safety
admin
team,
which
supports
the
entire
community
health
and
safety
department.
Now
that
is
my
business
operations,
manager
to
contract
administrators
I
think
it's
two
project:
administrators
specialist
I'm
not
going
to
list
everybody
a.
H
Of
people
myself
and
Julie
Sanchez
and
her
team
would
be
at
the
Marcy
Street
location
from.
H
Well,
it's
a
couple
of
them
are
here
tonight
pretty
frequently
for
evening
meetings,
but
that's
a
little
different
frequent
meetings
in
on
in
in
Social
initiatives.
So
it's
you
know
it's.
They
drive
a
fair
amount,
they
drive
their
personal
vehicles
and
we
also
have
Team
meetings
with
community
health
and
safety
with
the
Chiefs.
The
emergency
manager,
Maria
Sanchez,
Tucker,
myself
and
and
Julie
Sanchez.
E
E
What's
the
I
need
to
know,
what's
the
rent
we're
paying
on
Mercy
Street.
I
I
E
B
Yes,
Madam
chair,
I'm,
looking
to
see
where
we
have
I
think
the
fair
market
value
for
the
year
is
2026
226
thousand
dollars.
E
Okay,
as
far
as
this
bar
being
all
bunched
together,
there's
parts
of
this
bar
that
I
want
to
vote
for
and
there's
other
parts
that
I
don't
want
to
vote
for.
Why
does
it
all
need
to
be
bunched
together,
as
one
vote.
C
Madam,
chair
and
counselor
Lindell
I'm
happy
to
address
that
question.
I.
Think
efficiency
is
one
of
the
answers
to
that
we're
trying
to
get
this
money
deployed,
so
it
can
begin
to
be
utilized
as
quickly
as
possible,
and
you
know
we
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
there
was
transparency
and
that
this
was
all
presented
to
you
in
a
clear
and
concise
manner.
So
we
packaged
it
together,
similar
to
the
the
group
of
bars
that
we
did
earlier
this
month.
C
E
I,
personally,
don't
care
for
budgeting
done
this
way.
It's
we
approved
These
Bars
and
then
they're
reoccurring
costs,
and
this
is
essentially
budgeting
and
it
doesn't
give
us
an
overview
of
the
budget.
It
doesn't
give
us
a
view
of
what
the
current
budget
is.
I
just
I.
Don't
think
that
this
is
I
mean
I.
Ask
for
this
information
from
you
today.
Otherwise
it
would
not
have
been
clear
to
me,
which
is
reoccurring
and
which
isn't
reoccurring
and
that
this
is
a
way
of
budgeting
and
I'm,
not
really
very
comfortable
with
it.
E
That,
for
me,
need
much
more
explanation
than
I
can
get
when
we're
up
against
the
timing
of
a
six
o'clock
deadline,
because
we
have
a
special
call
council
meeting
I,
don't
think
that
it's
fair
to
this
committee
to
do
budgeting
this
way
or
to
have
us
be
on
such
a
rush
schedule
I
for
one
would
want
to
know
where
else
we
looked
other
than
Marcy
Street
right
downtown
for
I
mean
in
a
way
it
doesn't
really
matter
I.
Just
don't
think
we
should
be
renting
downtown
office.
E
Space
I
think
it's
as
expensive
a
place
in
Santa
Fe
as
you
can
find,
and
we
probably
could
have
done
better
and
I'm,
not
blaming
anyone
for
that.
It's
a
matter
of
I'm
sure
it's!
We
want
some
space,
that's
close
to
City
Hall!
Well,
it's
frustrating
when
we
have
so
much
space
and
none
of
it
can
be
used,
but.
J
Madam,
chair
and
councilor
Lindell,
the
timing
is
a
little
unfortunate
because
you
haven't
been
presented
with
the
whole
specific
Elise
and
the
whole
recurring
expenses
for
the
Marcy
lease,
and
that's
that's
coming
soon,
but
the
reason
that
this
money
is
actually
needed
now
is
because
to
make
our
timeline
match
what
specifics
needs
are
they
really
want
to
be
in
us
to
be
out
of
the
space,
so
they
can
start
construction
by
May,
and
so
that
is
the
reason
that
we
really
wanted
to
get
started
so
that
we
could
have
the
successful
small
company
expansion,
and
so
that
is
why
this
is
here
now,
rather
than
waiting
for
the
whole
package
with
the
specific
Elise
and
the
Marcy
lease
I
believe
I.
E
I
Counselor
chair
just
real
quick,
a
little
more
background,
so
you're
aware
I
probably
should
have
included
it
in
the
memo.
That's
that's
my
my
mistake,
but
we
assessed
to
a
pretty
high
level
13
potential
spaces
that
we
could
move
staff
to.
We
looked
at
two
facilities
at
Midtown,
Santa
Fe.
We
looked
at
some
facilities
on
Guadalupe,
the
general
Guadalupe
area.
We
looked
at
some
space
on
Paseo
and
we
did
look
at
quite
a
few
spaces
downtown
after
after
investigating
all
of
those
spaces.
I
I
can
very
very
truly
say
that
the
the
costs
associated
with
the
Marcy
Street
space
are
some
are
do
the
Marcy
Street
spaces
really
do
present
represent
some
of
our
best
options
out
there
in
terms
of
just
physical
Logistics
in
terms
of
investment.
That
would
be
needed
need
to
be
made
to
bring
those
up
to
the
standard
required.
We
really
do
feel
confident
that
those
are
some
of
the
the
best
spaces
we
were
able
to
find.
I
I
I
Absolutely
counselor
chair
again,
we
will
get
you
a
copy
of
the
draft
lease
as
soon
as
possible,
definitely
before
they
appear
at
any
upcoming
committees
or
the
governing
body.
So
you
can
ask
any
questions.
You
have
or
provide
feedback.
E
This
is
just
such
a
frustrating
ask
when
they're
all
bunched
in
together
and
like
I,
said
there's
some
of
these,
that
I
feel
totally
totally
supportive
of
and
there's
other
ones
that
I
still
have
many
many
more
questions
on
and
I'm
not
comfortable
with
them,
but
it's
presented
to
us
as
an
All
or
Nothing
proposition
and
I.
Don't
think
that's
fair
to
the
council.
D
Thank
you,
madam
chair
continue
with
Midtown
since
everyone's
up
there,
when
we
were
looking
at
additional
office
space
or
a
place
to
move,
why
was
the
bone?
Boneyard
I?
Guess
that's
what
you
call
it
not
considered
for
the
offices.
I
Counselor
chair
the
the
Boneyard,
the
issues
there
are
timing
and
the
cost
of
the
build
out.
The
Boneyard
is
essentially
a
completely
undeveloped
space.
The
HVAC
isn't
built
out.
You
know
it's
it's
an
unfinished
space,
so
we
would
have
had
to
gone
through
the
process
of
both
architectural
and
engineering
design.
I
There
would
have
been
a
process
to
execute
the
procurement
for
that
the
process
of
getting
through
the
design
work,
a
follow-up
bid
to
actually
do
the
construction
and
then
are
based
on
just
square
footage
costs
a
fairly
significant
investment
in
building
out
that
space
that
we
neither
had
the
time
available
to
us
or
the
funding
to
make
that
happen.
So.
D
Right
so
several
years
ago
we
were
renting
at
the
federal
building
right
across
the
street
and
we
made
the
decision
to
move
because
we
were,
they
were
jacking
up
the
rant.
We
were
tired
of
pay
rent
moved
to
Market
station,
we
owned
it.
We
moved
everyone
in
there
and
now
we're
going
back
to
the
way
we
used
to
be
that
doesn't
quite
make
sense
to
me
and
I
know
over
time.
Rental
go
up
especially
down
here
and
we'll
be
in
a
similar
situation,
I'm
afraid.
D
As
far
as
Monaco
Ray
ball,
Center
I
know
before
the
pandemic.
I
think
I
had
gone
over
there
and
we
were
still
housing.
Kids
there
we
still
had
a
program
going
on
there.
They
had
a
kitchen,
they
were
feeding
kids,
so
what's
happened
since
then.
D
H
E
H
Council
Rivera,
the
youth
programs
have
shifted
to
be
at
the
Chavez
Center,
it's
been
since.
Well,
as
you
know,
during
the
pandemic
we
had
to
shut
down
all
the
programs.
H
In
fact,
the
Monaco
royal
ball
Center
was
used
for
a
Time
by
the
senior
services
division
for
staging
Meals
on
Wheels
and
then,
when
we
Consolidated
the
community
services
Youth
and
Family
Services
Division
program
with
the
rec
after
school
program,
we
were
able
to
consolidate
all
of
the
the
after
school
happening
at
the
Chavez
Center.
So
that's
been
really
convenient
families
really
like
it.
H
It's
convenient
to
where
most
folks
live
a
little
more
so
now
than
the
Monaco
royal
ball,
Center,
there's
better
parking,
and
you
know
really
importantly,
the
kids
have
access
to
the
pools,
the
ice
rink
and
the
and
the
basketball
courts,
and
all
that.
So
it's
been
a
really
great
way
to
offer
that
program-
and
you
know
the
Monaco
robal
Center
had
had-
is
not
really
needed
for
those
the
same
programming.
D
H
Mean
the
Carlos
Ortega,
Center,
yeah,
I,
think
I,
don't
know
if
that
building
was
evaluated.
We
have
had
some
interest
in
a
local
Behavioral
Health
provider,
for
youth
in
renting
that
Carlos
Ortega,
so
that
was
sort
of
underway
and
looking
like
a
good
use
of
that
center.
H
K
D
D
I'll
ask
these
other
questions
somewhat
quickly,
but
on
the
first
page,
the
first
group
of
paging
that
has
the
unanticipated
Revenue
you
mentioned,
like
December
28th,
that
there
were
a
whole
group
of
things
that
have
been
passed
at
consent.
Were
they
in
a
similar
package
to
what
we're
seeing
now.
C
D
C
C
C
If
we're
going
to
do
them
now
in
FY
23,
so
that
we
have
our
base
to
build
fy24
on
and
and
Madam
chair,
we
felt
that
a
lot
of
these
things
relate
to
one
another
in
terms
of
alleviation
of
homelessness.
A
lot
of
the
items
that
are
included
in
this
package
of
bars
relate
to
City
efforts
to
alleviate
unsheltered
homelessness.
I
Counselor
chair:
yes,
there
are,
they
are
providing
some
improvements.
The
the
space
is
relatively
TurnKey
for
us,
so
other
than
updating,
carpet
and
paint.
The
spaces
are
essentially
move-in
ready,
safe
or
some
of
the
Investments
that
we're
making.
Is
we
we're
responsible
for
I.T
improvements
and
stuff,
but
things
related
directly
to
the
the
space
itself
they're
helping
with,
but
it
that
it
is
minimal.
D
All
right,
I
think
my
next
next
question
is
for
Miss
McDonald.
K
Going
really
well
thank
you
for
asking
I
have
Jason
Sharp
here
too.
If
you
have
any
questions
for
him,
but
we
feel
like
it's
going
really
well,
we
haven't
hired
the
new
Rangers
that
we
came
to
you
before
I
guess
at
the
end
of
December,
but
we're
working
with
HR
and
looking
forward
to
expanding
our
work
for
sure
all.
L
Councilwoman
counselor
we're
looking
at
two
F-150s.
L
Yes,
sir,
currently
two
of
our
Rangers
are
using
repurposed
police,
SUVs
and.
D
D
K
Madam,
chair
counselor,
the
colors
of
the
vehicles
we
can
modify
and
and
the
new
ones
could
be
white
I
think
that
the
the
thought
that
Jason
Sharp
had
was
to
make
them
consistent.
They
have
different
logos
on
them
and
I
definitely
hear
the
concern.
K
You
know
we
would
need
to
paint
the
other
ones
white
or
or
a
different
color.
If
we
wanted
to
be
consistent,
so
we
were
trying
to
be
consistent,
but
we
can
reevaluate
that
for
sure.
If
that's
concerned.
K
D
Yeah
just
something
to
think
about
I.
You
know
it
just
wasn't
sure.
If
that's
the
look
you
guys
were
going
for,
if
it
there.
D
In
it,
maybe
it
helps
with
authority.
D
Like
that,
but
it
just
I'm
not
sure
that's,
the
look
I
would
want
for
a
ranger
programs.
So
those
are
my
questions
and
concerns
and
again
some
things
I,
like
some
things,
I,
don't
and
I
like
the
fact
that
we're
rushed
through
this
process.
So
thank
you,
madam
chair
calcit,.
M
Thank
you
so
much
Madam
chair
I
want
to
go
back
to
the
discussion
around
the
move
from
rail
yard
and
just
make
sure
that
I
am
understanding
some
numbers
correctly.
So
we're
our
rent
is
going
to
be
200
000
a
year,
correct,
signing
a
five-year
lease
and
then
specifica
are
they
signing
at
least
a
five-year
lease.
I
Counselor,
chair
I
will
defer
to
director
Brown
I'm,
not
sure
on
the
details
of
their
lease.
B
Madam
chair
councilor
cassett.
They
are
signing
a
five-year
lease
with
extensions
with
four
extensions
for
optional
term
extensions:
okay,.
M
And
then
our
moving
costs
we're
looking
at
six
hundred
thousand
and
they're,
giving
us
five
hundred
thousand
for
moving
costs.
So
we
have
a
hundred
thousand
dollar
Gap,
that's
going
to
be
covered
by
economic
development.
But
if
I'm
doing
my
math
correctly
over
those
five
years,
we
will
get
a
hundred
and
thirty
thousand
dollars
more
in
rent
than
we
would
be
paying.
Is
that
a
hundred
and
thirty
thousand
dollars
gonna
reimburse
The
Economic
Development
Fund,
or
will
it
go
to
the
general
fund.
B
Venture
counselor
Kessler,
that's
very
good
question.
It's
gonna
return
back
to
the
economic
development
front,
because
leases
and
sales
go
to
The,
Economic,
Development,
Fund
and
and
keep
in
mind
also
that
that
the
GRT
from
this
growth
is
10x.
What
they're
doing
right
now
so
further
growth.
That's
why
we're
excited
about
this
expansion.
M
I
I
think
that
was
that
was
primarily
my
only
question
because
the
way
I'm
seeing
this
is
it
does
seem
to
be
balancing
out.
Well,
I,
guess:
I
guess
the
other
piece
is
you
know
this
as
Council
Rivera
mentioned
Rising
rents,
you
know
what
happens
after
five
years.
Does
our
lease
have
a
extension
option?
Can
they
raise
the
rent
on
us
in
five
years
or
do
we
have
another
plan
that
we're
starting
to
look
at
over
the
next
five
years?.
I
I
That
is
Our
intention.
Yes,
this
week
we
are
considering
this
kind
of
an
essential
kind
of
stop
Gap,
while
we,
you
know,
make
a
longer
term
plan.
But
you
know
due
to
the
timing
of
how
the
specific
request
came
in
we.
You
know
we
need
to
Define
it.
H
I
E
A
Okay,
a
couple
questions
director
Oster,
are
bar
adjustment,
requests,
easy
things
to
bring
in
front
of
us.
C
Madam
chair
their
routine.
We
do
a
number
of
these
at
most
meetings,
so
there
is
a
significant
amount
of
effort
that
goes
into
preparing
the
materials
preparing
the
bar
itself
and
preparing
the
memo
and
packet
materials.
So
I
would
say
they're
they're
routine,
but
it
does
require
effort
by
staff.
To
put
these
fourth.
A
Okay-
and
that's
that's
always
been
my
understanding-
is
that
there
are
a
significant
amount
of
work
for
the
staff
in
terms
of
bringing
them
together
and
getting
them
through
and
and
then
we
have
the
addition,
this
time
of
you
know
being
kind
of
under
the
gun
to
get
to
get
this
money
out
where
it
needs
to
go
when
the
revenues-
and
this
may
be
a
question
I'm
just
blanking
on
your
name
Andy.
Thank
you,
Mr
Hopkins.
A
A
So
that's
part
of
why
you
know
when
we
started
seeing
revenues
coming
unanticipated
revenues
coming
in
higher
than
what
we
budgeted.
We
were
like,
oh
my
goodness,
Hallelujah.
Let's
get
this
money
out
to
start
correcting
all
the
things
we
had
to
do
when
our
revenues
kind
of
took
a
nosedive
fell
off
the
cliff
of
mixing.
My
metaphor:
sorry:
I'm
in
a
hurry,
so
just
want
to
kind
of
point
that
out
that
you
know
why
we
were
in
this
situation.
I
think
we
need
to
kind
of
look
back
about
the
situation.
I,
don't
know!
N
Yeah
man,
I'm
sure
I
just
had
that
what
the
real
the
downturn
in
GRT
that
we
were
saying
was
really
based
on
the
pandemic.
There
was
really
no
way
of
knowing
when
we
were
going
to
come
out
of
it.
N
Exactly
exactly
you
know,
so
much
of
it
I
I
call
the
tourism
economy
a
lot
like
the
stock
market.
So
much
just
based
on
psychology
and
there's
a
few
things
in
the
world
more
difficult
to
predict
than
human
behavior
yeah.
A
Thank
you,
okay
and
I'm,
not
sure
who
this
is
for,
but
this
this
whole
deal
with
the
lease
and
moving
staff.
I
mean
I.
Think
that
this
start
maybe
this
is
for
Rich.
The
way
this
started
was
because
of
the
incredible
opportunity
we
have
with
Pacifica
and
just
really
they
have
the
economic
development
opportunity
that
they
present
to
us
and
and
I
think
it's
been.
We
haven't
really
had
a
chance
to
talk
about
that
yet
because
that
bill
was
just
introduced
last
week
and
we'll
be
hearing
more
about
that.
A
But
that's
really
what
started
the
dominoes
going
right
is
that
they
had.
They
have
office
space
at
Market
station
or
Market
Street
and
their
they've.
They
they
are,
they
have
become
so
successful.
They
are
such
an
incredible
company,
they've
quickly
outgrown
their
space
and
we
are
trying
to
help
them.
A
You
know
with
Incredible
growth
in
this
city
and
they
are
a
very
different
and
interesting
company
and
and
again
we're
really
short
on
time
Rich.
So
maybe
you
can
in
a
nutshell,
talk
about
that.
A
bit.
B
Sure,
but
thank
you,
madam
chair.
Yes,
a
couple
things
so
biotech
bioscience
is
one
of
our
priority
industry
clusters.
So
we
are
doing
everything
we
can
to
keep
our
startup
bioscience
companies
in
Santa
Fe
and
not
let
them
go
to
Boston
or
Austin
or
to
San
Francisco.
So
specifica
is
a
growth
company.
B
That's
moving
out
they're
right
next
door
to
us
and
they've
received
an
infusion
of
venture
funding
and
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
the
Venture
funding
didn't
allow
them
to
move
somewhere
else,
and
so,
as
they
looked
at
their
expansion,
that's
where
we
moved
in
and
thought
about.
Market
station,
it's
taken
a
while,
because
we've
been
trying
to
find
the
perfect
spot
for
our
staff
to
move
to.
B
Well
that's
taken
a
while,
and
specifics
has
been
very
patient
with
us,
as
we've
looked
for
the
best
option
for
all
of
us
staff
to
have
to
move
out
of
the
building.
So
that's
where
it's
started
and
they're
growing
Leaps
and
Bounds
and
they're
now
getting
a
little
desperate
to
expand
and
we're
also
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
have
all
of
our
ducks
in
a
row
to
allow
that
to
happen.
A
And
then,
at
the
same
time,
we
have
a
competing
interest
in
that
we
are
spread
out
as
a
city.
Our
offices
are
spread
out
all
over
the
city
and
we
are
looking
for
the
ability
to
bring
more
people
together
and
we've
talked
about
you
know,
potentially
building
in
the
Midtown
area,
a
the
kind
of
like
the
county
has
one
building
where
we
can
bring
everybody
together,
but
these
things
take
time
right,
there's
a
there's.
This
is
an
interim
solution,
while
we
consider
feasibility
of
that
figure
out,
funding
figure
out
how
to
do
that.
A
But
you
know,
would
be
nice
I
think
if
we
were
all
under
in
one
building
and
some
of
the
synergies
that
may
become
possible
with
this
move
would
be
possible
across
city
government,
and
so
you
know,
but
you
can't
do
that.
You
know
there's
there's
all
these
steps
and
all
these
dominoes
that
have
to
fall
to
get
you
to
that
transition
to
get
you
through
that
transition
to
kind
of
the
bigger
objective
and
I.
Think
that's
part
of
this
too.
Isn't
it.
B
Madam,
chair
you're
correct
it's
sort
of
like
a
chess
play
where
we
see
a
bigger
goal
at
the
end.
It
may
take
us
five
years,
but
in
the
meantime,
well
I'll
call
the
business
market
conditions
say:
hey,
there's
an
opportunity
with
a
business
to
grow
with
jobs
and
more
GRT.
We
should
we
should
jump
on
it,
and
so
this
is
an
interim
stuff
step
for
us
as
we
go
through
the
process
and
diligence
of
finding
a
new
or
building
a
new
Civic
Services
Center
that
we
hope
to
have
in
the
Midtown
area.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
We
are
over
time,
I,
don't
know.
If
the
committee
is
ready
to
take
action
on
this
one
option
we
have,
we
could
recess
to
accommodate
the
governing
body
meeting.
That
is
now
10
minutes
late
and
come
back
after
that
would
be
meaning
that
we'd
be
keeping
all
the
staff
here.
But
that
is
one
option
for
us:
I,
don't
know
what
the
committee
would
like
to
do.
Council
Lindale.
D
A
All
right,
let
me
go
back
to
my
agenda
all
right.
That
is
the
last
thing
that
was
pulled.
We
do
not
have
an
executive
session,
we
do
not
have
discussion
items
Matters
from
staff,
no
matter
stuff,
Matters
from
the
committee
Matters
from
the
chair,
our
next
meeting,
Monday
February
13th,
and
that's
all
we
have
tonight.
We
are
adjourned
and
the
special
governing
body
meeting.