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A
Okay,
fantastic
so
again
calling
to
order
the
finance
committee
for
January
3rd
2023,
the
first
meeting
of
the
year.
We
could
get
a
roll
call
that'd
be
great.
C
Madam
chair,
we
typically
get
the
live
little
icon
on
our
iPads
and
I.
Don't
see
that
okay.
B
Do
you
I'm
sure
it
shows
his
life
for
me
on
the
screen?
Let
me
double
check
with
our
technical
support.
Yes,.
B
A
G
K
it
is
going
to
finance
committee
first,
where
it
should
be
going
to
finance
committee
last
or
our
rules
h.
I
j
k
the
community
development
plan
for
Midtown
I,
don't
know
if
there
is
a
Time
consideration,
but
for
our
rules
we
should
not
be
hearing
it
tonight.
A
G
G
H
A
B
H
A
A
A
G
G
So
this
will
delay
its
arrival
at
governing
body.
A
G
A
A
I
Madam,
chair
members,
the
commission,
I,
don't
know
what
the
what
the
committee
schedule
looks
like
Beyond.
What's
detailed
here,
we
had
intended
to
get
this
introduced
and
you
know
earlier,
as
you
know,
and
we
had
packet
problems
on
Prime
gov
and
it's
been
delayed.
I
We
as
I
recall
from
before
Christmas
I've,
had
a
long
break
here.
Sorry,
as
I
recall
the
discussions
from
the
applicant
team
Before
Christmas,
we
had
two
options
on
getting
well
a
couple
options
on
when
we
would
take
it
to
governing
body.
I
One
path
was
going
to
have
it
pass
through
the
bare
minimum
of
committees
and
going
with
governing
body
on
the
11th
in
our
mind,
was
going
to
allow
it
to
go
through
all
the
normal
committees,
plus
Community,
Development,
commission,
Etc,
so
and
I'm,
not
sure,
I'm
understanding
or
if
I
heard
the
issue
correctly
are.
Are
you
saying
that.
A
Director
wheeler,
would
you
mind
yeah,
so,
no
so
the
pro
here's
the
the
issue.
The
issue
is:
if
we
pulled
this
from
the
agenda
tonight
and
finance
hears
it
last
and
then
that
will
mean
that
it
won't
be
heard
on
the
11th
that
will
be
heard
at
the
second
meeting
in
January.
Is
there
a
reason
why
it
needed
to
pass
at
our
first
meeting
in
January?
What
does
that
do
to
the
project
or
to
the
contents
of
the
resolution?
It.
I
It
doesn't
really
create
any
problems
for
the
plan
itself.
I
think
all
of
us
on
the
team
would
just
like
to
get
it
done.
You
know
we
had
originally
hoped
to
go
to
Planning
Commission
with
the
community
development
plan
back
on
November
30th.
You
know
we
we
had
intended
to
run
them
together,
so
I
think
for
us.
It's
just
wrapping
up
loose
ends
and
trying
to
get
it
done,
but
I
don't
think
it
really
creates
a
problem.
We
just
kind
of
laid
out
the
quickest
path
we
could
find.
D
Madam
chair
members
of
the
committee,
I
think
the
one
time
sensitive
issue
is
that
we've
got
these
rfps
that
have
been
released
and
we
really
want
the
plan
to
be
in
place
and
approved
and
discussed
so
that
we
ensure
that
the
evaluation,
the
rfps,
takes
the
plan
into
consideration.
The
timing.
You
know
the
second
week
in
January
the
rfus
are
still
going
to
be
out.
So
it's
not
critical,
but
that
was
some
of
the
urgency
in
getting
it
approved
by
council
at
the
earlier
meeting
was
because
of
the
rfps.
I
Madam
chair,
if
I
can
just
add
that
was
a
great
Point
Alexandra,
because
originally
we,
when
we
set
out
on
this
path
to
get
to
governing
body
on
the
11th,
we
had
not
extended
the
RFP,
so
that
would
have
made
things
tighter.
We
have
extended
the
RFP
due
date
by
a
month,
which
also
therefore
pushes
off
the
evaluation
by
a
month.
So,
as
Alexander
said,
it's
less
of
a
factor.
C
The
only
concern
I
have
is
that
edac
Economic
Development
advisory
committee
hears
it
on
the
same
day.
That
would
be
heard
a
governing
body
and
if
they
have
any
I,
know
they're
only
an
advisory
board,
but
if
they
have
recommendations
or
or
concerns,
that
makes
it
a
little
bit.
Tough
and
I
think
that's
a
pretty
important
advisory
committee
to
take
a
look
at
it
beforehand,
so
that
that
would
be
my
only
concern.
J
Be
a
real
Madam,
chair,
I,
I
guess:
I
was
okay
with
it
being
here
in
finance
and
part
of
my
frustration.
Is
we
actually
completely
changed
our
CDC
schedule
so
that
we
can
hear
it
on
the
fourth
ahead
of
time
in.
J
The
11th-
it
was
an
inconvenience
for
me,
but
we
went
ahead
and
did
that
for
the
members
so
that
they
could
hear
it
before
it
was
actually
being
heard
on
the
11th.
So
I
am
of
the
mindset
to
continue
with
this
schedule,
but
I
would
like
to
hear
from
councilwomancaster
about
edac.
G
Yeah
I'm
happy
to
speak
about
to
edac.
Fortunately,
edac
has
been
kept
pretty
pretty
well
informed
of
the
development
at
Midtown,
so
I,
don't
think,
there's
going
to
be
too
much
here.
That
is
new
for
them,
but
you're
right.
This
is
a
problem.
We
actually
will
be
changing
the
days
of
the
edac
meetings
to
the
first
Wednesday
of
the
month,
instead
of
the
second.
For
that
exact
reason,
and
if
there
is
anything
that
comes,
that
is
really
substantive.
G
That
will
be
on
me
to
then
spend
my
afternoon
trying
to
make
those
adjustments
and
I
can
bring
that
to
the
governing
body.
If
there's
something
that
really
does
come
up
any
deck,
that
is
of
concern
so
I'm
happy
to
take
on
that
responsibility.
If.
I
If
I
may,
Madam,
chair
and
membership
committee
I've
received
confirmation
from
other
team
members
that
it
does
not
create
issues
for
us.
So
if
it's
the
pleasure
of
the
committee
to
delay,
which
has
has
been
pointed
out
by
several
of
you,
gives
more
time
for
any
edac
input
to
go
into
it,
then
we
are
fine
with
that.
It's
your
choice,
of
course,
anyhow,
but
you
know
we,
it's
not
a
problem.
A
F
A
A
A
Okay:
okay,
yes,.
B
A
Director
Brown,
we
have
a
question:
there's
concern.
Generally
resolutions
come
to
finance
last
this
resolution
on
Midtown.
The
community
development
plan
is
coming
to
finance
first
and
if
we
were
to
take
it
off
the
agenda
tonight
and
have
it
rescheduled
to
be
last,
does
that
hurt,
which
would
mean
it
would
be
delayed
at
governing
body,
wouldn't
be
there
on
the
11th?
It
wouldn't
be
there
till
the
end
of
January.
E
Madam
chair,
thank
you
for
that.
Happy,
New
Year
to
everyone,
I
I,
would
strongly
suggest
that
you
keep
it
on
the
agenda
for
tonight.
I
think
it
there's
a
calendar
of
committees
that
we're
trying
to
connect
with
and
having
it
here
allows
us
to
sort
of
get
that
process
going.
We
do
have
some
rfps
that
are
in
process,
but
this
this
plan
and
all
the
work
that's
been
done
on
it.
E
It's
just
we're
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
we
follow
through
and
get
it
through
on
the
schedule
that
we
originally
wanted.
So
that
would
be
my
suggestion
and
request
if
you
could
work
on
it
tonight.
The
team
is
here,
I
think
Mr
Hernandez
is
on
of
the
waiting
room
director
Latz
there,
and
so
is
Mr
loxton.
Who
can
speak
to
the
plan
that
we
have
in
front
of
you.
A
G
Counselor
cassette
I'm
I'm
fine
to
hear
it
tonight,
given
that
there
does
seem
to
be
a
time
factor
and
I
can
simply
remove
my
motion
right.
A
Okay,
We've
withdrawn
the
motion
and
the
second
and
we
have
to
approve
the
agenda
there.
We
go.
Is
there
a
second
to
approve
the
agenda?
All
right?
We
have
a
motion,
a
second
to
approve
the
agenda,
all
those
in
favor
aye
aye.
Anybody
opposed
that
motion
passes
we're
on
to
the
consent
agenda,
I.
Believe
there
were
items
the
committee
is
interested
in
hearing,
but
let
me
just
first
ask:
are
there
changes
at
all
to
the
consent
agenda.
A
Okay,
great
counselors:
what
are
you
interested
in
tonight?
J
A
A
Okay,
is
there
a
motion,
as
amended
to
approve,
is
amended,
we'll
motion
a
second
to
approve
the
consent
agenda,
as
amended
all
those
in
favor
aye.
Anybody
opposed
that
motion
passes
all
right.
We
have
two
presentations
tonight
and
then
obviously
one
two
three
four
five
things
pulled
off
the
agenda,
so
I
do
want
to
keep
us
moving
along
we're
going
to
continue
to
try
to
be
very.
This
will
help
us
in
budget
hearings.
A
I,
think
cognizant
of
our
time,
and
you
know
just
making
sure
that
everybody
has
a
turn
and
that
we
move
through
things
giving
everybody
enough
time,
but
also
recognizing.
We
don't
want
to
be
here
all
night.
So
with
that
two
presentations.
The
first
is
the
audit
update
and
we
have
Emily
Oster
our
finance
director
with
us
and
I
will
let
you
take
that
thank.
B
You,
madam
chair,
thank
you,
members
of
the
committee
I'm
happy
to
report
that
the
audits
are
moving
forward.
We
currently
have
six
team
members
from
Clifton
Larson
Allen,
which
is
our
consulting
firm,
assisting
us
with
audit
prep,
and
they
are
moving
through
many
many
items
and
making
lots
of
progress.
We
also
have
the
first
list
of
audit
items
requested
by
car,
Riggs
and
Ingram,
which
is
the
city's
new
auditor.
There
are
about
70
items
that
were
in
the
process
of
gathering
those
are
due
on
Monday
and
the
requests
are
very
standard.
B
What
I
would
expect
to
see
from
a
first-year
auditor,
so
they're
gathering
information
about
the
city
to
build
their
file
and
gain
an
understanding
of
the
entity.
Finance
is
working
closely
with
our
Consultants
at
Clifton,
Larson
Allen,
with
it
and
with
a
number
of
other
City
departments
to
gather
those
items
and
submit
them
by
Monday
and
I
wanted
to
report
to
you
that
we
are
continuing
to
move
forward
with
the
month-end
close
process.
We
started
the
process
for
closing
December
of
2022
today
and
we
expect
to
close
close
out
that
month
on
January
17th.
A
Okay,
we
will
move
on
then
to
the
second
presentation,
which
is
an
overview
of
accounting
standards
and
rules.
I
thought
this
was
an
important
presentation
to
help
the
committee
and
the
public
understand
some
of
the
parameters
and
rules,
I,
guess
and
standards
that
the
finance
department
has
to
operate
under,
and
these
Emily
will
go
into
and
in
greater
detail
and
so
take
it
away.
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
You,
madam
chair,
and
thank
you
members
of
the
committee
I,
appreciate
your
interest
in
accounting
standards
and
roles.
There
are
many
as
we'll
discuss
this
evening.
There
are
many
different
standard
setting
bodies,
and
so
you
know
when
you're,
when
you're,
considering
an
accountant,
one
of
the
things
that
you
really
want
to
make
sure
you're
you're
getting
in
your
accountant,
is
a
person
who
is
good
at
understanding
and
following
complex
rules.
So
with
that,
let
me
dive
into
the
presentation
here.
B
So
in
the
United
States
there's
an
organization
called
the
financial
accounting
Federation,
and
this
is
a
non-profit
organization,
it's
based
in
Connecticut,
and
it
has
two
different
other
organizations
that
it
works
with.
There's
the
Financial
Accounting
Standards
Board
Which
establishes
accounting
standards
for
private
and
public
companies
and
non-profit
organizations,
and
then
there's
the
governmental,
Accounting
Standards
Board,
which
establishes
standards
for
state
and
local
governments,
and
we
fall
under
this.
The
gas
B
standards.
B
So
you
know,
as
I
mentioned,
we
follow
the
governmental,
Accounting
Standards
Board
of
standards.
In
addition,
see
if
I
can
get
my
slides
to
work
here,
we
also
have
Federal
oversight
that
we're
subject
to
the
Office
of
Management
and
budget
puts
out
a
rule
called
the
uniform
Guidance.
The
full
name
is
here
on
the
slide:
I
won't
I,
won't
Bore
You
by
reading
it,
but
it's
part
of
the
code
of
federal
regulations
and
the
uniform
guidance
is
an
authoritative
set
of
rules
and
requirements
for
federal,
Grant
Awards.
B
So,
of
course,
as
you're
aware,
the
city
receives
a
number
of
different
Federal
Awards,
both
directly
from
federal
agencies
and
then
also
pass
through
the
state
and
through
other
entities.
We
also
have
an
a
little
bit
of
overlap
with
the
Securities
and
Exchange
Commission.
That
is
because
we
do
sell
bonds.
We
issue
debt,
which
is
publicly
traded,
so
the
Securities
and
Exchange
Commission
has
the
office
of
Municipal
Securities,
which
coordinates
the
sec's
activities
and
administers
rules
pertaining
to
those
Municipal
secured.
These.
B
In
the
local
context,
the
New
Mexico
statutes
the
audit
act
governs
the
audit
requirements
for
governmental
entities
here
in
New
Mexico,
and
the
audit
act
requires
that
the
financial
affairs
of
every
agency,
with
annual
revenue
of
500,
000
or
more,
be
thoroughly
audited
and
examined
each
year.
Those
audits
can
be
done
by
the
state
auditor's
office
by
Personnel
of
the
state
auditor's
office
or
by
independent
Auditors
approved
by
the
state
auditor
in
New.
Mexico,
most
audits
are
performed
by
independent
Auditors.
B
B
There
is
another
piece
of
this
called
the
administrative
rules,
the
New
Mexico
administrative
code
and
the
state
auditor
has
rule-making
Authority
and
they've
used
that
to
enact
the
audit
rule,
which
is
again
like
I,
said
in
the
administrative
code,
and
so
this
is
much
more
detailed.
The
statute
lays
out
a
framework
for
how
governmental
audits
are
conducted
in
New,
Mexico
and
the
administrative
code.
B
Both
of
the
audit
was
conducted
by
the
auditor
in
compliance
with
the
rules
and
that
the
entity
being
audited
is
in
compliance
with
those
rules
and
those
that
rule
is
updated
annually
by
the
office
of
the
state
auditor.
There
are
always
changes.
All
of
these
standards
are
Revisited,
they're,
updated
as
conditions
change,
and
so,
of
course,
all
these
rules
change.
B
As
those
things
happen,
there
are
also
standards
for
Auditors
that
are
relevant
to
the
Oddity
as
well,
because
we're
a
governmental
entity
we're
required
to
have
an
audit
in
accordance
with
generally
accepted
government
auditing
standards,
which
is
fondly
referred
to
as
gagis
try
to
get
a
little
laugh
in
this
presentation.
I
know
the
material
is
somewhat
dry,
but
the
yellow
book
is,
maybe
you
know
another
way
of
referring
to
to
gagus.
B
So
what
what
that
lays
out
is
the
rules
for
conducting
an
audit,
that's
subject
to
Federal
oversight,
so
that
outlines
the
requirements
for
the
report
itself.
The
qualifications
for
Auditors
quality
control
for
the
audit
organization
I
want
to
specifically
talk
about
the
professional
qualifications
for
the
auditors
as
a
CPA
under
the
state
regulations,
I'm
required
to
complete
40
hours
of
continuing
professional
education
and
then,
as
a
person
who
works
in
government,
I
have
to
complete
24
hours
every
two
years
of
government-specific,
continuing
education
and
that
rule
comes
from
the
yellow
book.
B
So
that's
an
example
of
how
those
rules
are
applied.
We
also
have
the
American
Institute
of
certified
public
accountants
and
the
auditing
Standards
Board,
and
they
issue
statements
on
auditing
standards,
which
lay
out
the
rules
for
how
audits
are
conducted
and
what
kind
of
evidence
the
auditor
has
to
collect
in
order
to
support
their
opinion.
Now,
on
the
audit
side,
all
of
these
things
are
reviewed
by
Third
parties.
The
audit
firms
are
subject
to
a
peer
review
requirement.
B
I
just
want
to
Circle
back
I'm.
Sorry
I
forgot
to
advance
my
slides.
Oh
there
we
go
we're
at
questions.
I
just
want
to
Circle
back
and
reiterate
that
you
know
there
are
a
number
of
different
standard
setting
bodies
that
are
involved
in
promulgating
accounting
rules
and
accounting
standards.
Some
of
them
are
at
the
national
level
and
then
at
the
local
level
we
have
the
audit
Act
and
the
audit
Rule
and
one
of
my
jobs
as
your
Finance
director
is
making
sure
that
the
city
is
understanding
and
correctly
applying
those
rules.
B
The
main
main
takeaway
that
I'd
like
to
leave
you
with
here
is
that
we're
not
making
this
up
as
we
go.
There
are
many
external
parties
involved
in
setting
these
standards
and
then
ensuring
that
they're
being
applied
appropriately
and
with
the
overarching
goal
of
making
sure
that
our
financial
reports
are
comparable
to
other
governmental
entities,
other
cities
and
counties
and
other
entities
that
are
reporting
under
Gatsby
standards.
B
That's
all
I
have
do
you
have
any
questions
for
me
on
on
this
material.
A
I
I
just
a
comment,
so
that's
a
lot
of
training
40
hours
and
then
an
additional
24
because
of
your
work
with
a
governmental
entity
and
I
thought.
12
continuing
legal
education
hours
was
a
lot
so
I'll
stop
complaining
about
that.
A
All
right
seems
like
we're
good,
so
thank
you
for
that.
I
just
thought.
It
was
a
good
thing
for
us
to
be
aware
of,
and
obviously
we
don't
need
to
have
the
depth
of
understanding
that
our
finance
director
does,
but
I
think
it
is
good
to
be
aware
of
that
things
that
you're
complying
with
the
things
that
direct
your
work
on
the
Audits
and
our
financial
position.
So
appreciate
that
all
right
with
that
we
have
a
long
agenda.
We
are
going
to
item
G,
which
is
on
consent.
A
J
A
For
four
years
in
the
total
amount
of
300
000,
including
nmgrt-
and
we
have
two
distinguished
gentlemen
here
with
us
to
answer,
questions
and
I-
don't
know:
did
you
want
them
to
talk
about
this
at
all
or
just
you
have
particular
questions
and
councilor
Rivera
I?
Believe
you
pulled
this
first
and
then
councilwoman
Villarreal.
You
had
some
questions
as
well.
A
C
L
Mr
chair
Madam,
chair
members
of
the
committee.
It
was
basically
a
to
make
it
a
simpler
process.
L
L
Madam,
chair
counselor,
that
was
a
decision.
Tourism
Department,
felt
that
New
Year's
Eve
is,
is
a
celebration
that
the
city
should
have
and
Dia
de
Muertos
was
added
because
it
had
been
suggested
as
a
new
event
type
celebration
for
the
city
that
not
only
would
appeal
to
the
residents
but
also
to
to
visitors,
and
it
would
be
a
relatively
unique
celebration
for
Santa
Fe
to
have
as
an
american-based
City,
but
with
our
with
the
number
of
Mexican
Heritage
members
of
our
community.
L
We
thought
it
would
be
something
of
interest
to
the
residents
as
well,
but
I
think
it's
because
of
the
there's
really
two
factors.
One
is
the
that
the
visitation
that
it
could
attract.
L
Second,
one
is
the
time
of
year
it's
the
end
of
October,
which
is
a
traditionally
a
slower
weekend
for
Santa
Fe
that
we
don't
fill
and
we
could
use
a
new
event
to
fill
that
in
much
as
wine
and
chilly
did
many
years
ago.
For
the
last
weekend
of
September
and
and
finally,
I
think
the
thing
that
makes
it
unique
from
a
wine
and
chili.
It
really
doesn't
have
a
way
to
support
itself.
It
doesn't
have
a
a
fundraising
component
to
it
because
it's
free
it's
offered
for
free
to
both
visitors
and
residents,
who.
C
So
how
how
successful
was
the
first
one,
which
we
just
recently
did.
L
Madam
chair
answer:
if
I
can,
let
me
have
Ray
respond
to
that,
because
I
was
on
personal
leave
and
didn't
attend
the
event
from
an
attendance
standpoint.
There
were
5.4
according
to
the
software
that
measures
the
activity
on
the
Plaza
the
two
days
there
were
5
400
people
between
the
two
days
that
attended
the
events
and.
L
Madam,
chair
counselor
I'm,
not
sure
that
this
first
event
did
because
we
didn't
promote
it,
because
it
was
a
first
event.
We
think
that
it
is
an
event
that
we
can
promote
and
can't
bring
in
significant
visitation.
C
So
Kiwanis
has
led
the
New
Year's
Eve
celebration
for
many
years,
and
that
was
at
the
request
of
the
city,
and
thank
you
for
doing
that.
It's
they've
been
doing
a
great
job,
so
that
even
brings
more
curiosity
as
to
why
we
included
Dia
de
los
Muertos,
which
Mr
Sandoval
is
clearly
running
as
well
into
that
same
process.
Clearly,
they
have
the
most
experience
with
that
which
was
looked
at
by
the
evaluation
committee.
I'm,
not
sure
how
Sage
Sage
bird
would
have
even
been
able
to
compete
at
they
submitted
all
the
proper
documentation.
C
N
N
And
to
do
this,
and
so
I
raised
the
money
pnm
put
in
a
significant
amount,
Zozobra
put
in
Sixteen
thousand
dollars
the
amount
that
we
went
short
in
order
to
do
this
and
councilor
I'll
remind
you
that
Kiwanis
runs
fourth
July
for
free
on
our
liability.
Even
though
it's
a
City
Event
same
thing
with
New
Year's
Eve,
we
do
charge
a
production
fee
because
that's
how
I
get
my
volunteers
to
come
and
stay
till
2
30
in
the
morning,
which
we
just
did
in
the
cold
to
clean
up.
N
That
is
also
on
our
liability
and
so
is
Dia
de
Muertos,
and
so
by
keeping
those
costs
low.
We
hope
that
we
would
be
able
to
do
this,
and
so
I
hope
there
isn't
a
suggestion
that
that
it's
inappropriate
for
a
community
event
organizer
to
to
arrange
an
event
that
is
determined
to
get
citizens
from
our
South
Side.
To
make
them
feel
welcome
on
the
heart
of
our
city,
which
is
our
Plaza.
C
N
No,
the
the
thing
is
is
that,
even
though
the
city
has
a
tort
liability
for
those
instances
that
again
helps
the
City
by
us
actually
by
the
Kawaii
International
policy
covering
these
type
of
events,
so
that
allows
us
to
bring
in,
and
the
other
thing
too
is
that
when
we
charge
a
production
fee,
we
do
it
for
five
thousand
dollars
for
New
Year's
Eve.
We
don't
charge
one
on
Fourth
of
July,
there's
just
no
money
to
be
made
there
in
order
to
do
that.
C
Telling
you
the
way
it
came
off
and
what
you
said
so
so
my
constituents
on
on
the
South
Side
are
wondering
why
Dia
de
los
Muertos
isn't
held
on
the
south
side
where
most
of
these
residents
live.
My
constituents
live.
N
Fact
that
the
feedback
was
that
people
didn't
feel
from
the
South
Side
didn't
feel
welcome
on
the
Plaza
itself,
and
so
again
this
is
years
and
years
of
going
out,
we
actually
went
to
Paisanos.
We
got
them
to
do
a
Zozobra
pinata
to
try
to
get
folks
to
feel
like
they
were.
Welcome
and
the
feedback
was.
We
don't
feel
welcome
on
the
Plaza
and
and
counselor
I
wish.
You
would
have
been
there
that
Friday
night
when
the
capitol
High,
mariachi
band
performed
and
all
their
families
were
there.
N
It
was
amazing
to
see
folks
and
I
had
a
young
man
16
years
old
who's
who
was
in
full
Mariachi,
dress
and
and
said
to
me
in
this
environment,
where
we
feel
like
we're
being
picked
on
by
the
last
Administration
the
dreamers
everything
that
happened
to
feel
like
we
were
welcome
to
perform
on
our
Plaza.
He
said
that
was
the
greatest
moment
of
his
life.
So
far,.
C
N
O
L
And
cancer
I
had
that
that
for
Roger's
taxes
support
it,
we
need
to
have
it
where
it's
not
only
resident
friendly
but
visitor
friendly,
and
if
it
will
work
as
well
on
the
South
Side.
That's
fine
I
think
it
would
be
harder
to
find
and
I
don't
know
that
it
would
have
the
same
appeal
as
it
does
by
putting
it
on
the
Plaza.
L
Madam,
chair
counselor,
the
the
total
that's
going
to
the
two
events
is
75
000.
The
total
combined
cost
of
the
two
events
is
about
a
hundred
and
eighty
thousand,
so
the
city
is
not
funding
the
entire
events,
as
we
do
for
the
Fourth
of
July.
It's
it's.
A
mixture
of
the
two
now
I
hope,
I.
Think
the.
L
Counselor
I
I
misspoke
because
it
doesn't
come
from
tourism,
so
I
can't
confirm
that
I
understand
that
we
do,
but
I
can't
confirm
that,
but
the
the
cost
of
the
Dia
de
los
Muertos
next
year
will
probably
come
down
because
of
the
experimental
nature
of
this
year.
We
tried
some
things
that
we
may
not
be
able
to
afford
to
continue
so
I
think
the
total
cost
of
the
two
events
are
75.
000
will
be
about
50
percent
of
the
total
funding
required.
F
L
From
my
team's
perspective,
this
has
much
more
of
a
an
opportunity
to
bring
visitation
to
the
city,
whereas
pride
in
June,
13
Juneteenth
are
celebrated
in
a
lot
of
cities
and
we
don't
haven't
seen
that
people
travel
and
stay
in
our
hotels
for
those
celebrations
may
be
incorrect.
But
that's
the
evaluation
from
our
team
in
tourism.
J
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Thank
you,
gentlemen.
For
joining
us
and
Randy
I
already
got
some
additional
information,
because
this
is
finance.
I
wanted
to
understand
the
budgets
of
these
events
and
what
are
the
line
items
that
consist
of
each
of
them,
and
so
that
was
helpful
for
you
to
provide
that
information.
There
was
one
question:
I
did
have
one
of
the
line
items
said
it
went
to
to
you.
Your
name
was
on
there
as
a
so
I,
don't
know
I.
L
J
So
New
York,
New,
Year's
Eve,
is
a
tried
and
true
event.
We've
had
a
track
record,
we
know
it
works.
I'm
sure
we've
made
tweaks
along
the
way
and
Dia
de
los
Muertos
was
the
first
run
this
year.
J
I
did
attend
the
first
day
and
it
wasn't
super
populated
I
think
there
were
more
people
that
came
the
second
day
and,
as
I've
said
before,
I
want
the
plaza
to
still
be
for
the
people,
so,
whether
it's,
whether
you
all
decide
it's
on
the
pleasant
or
down
south,
you
know,
I
I
think
it's
gonna,
it
will
depend
on
the
community
and
what
they
want
and
I
guess
what's
hard
for
me
is
like
there's
kind
of
a
contradiction
here
like
we
want
this
to
be
a
community
event,
but
you
also
want
it
to
be
a
tourism
event
to
me,
you
can't
put
tourism
a
tourism
price
tag
for
a
cultural,
spiritual
event
like
Dia
de
los
Muertos.
J
J
So
we
will
be
competing
with
other
people
to
come
during
this
time,
but
I
I
guess
I
want
it
to
be
successful
local
event
and
what
I
wanted
to
understand,
since
it's
new
is
how
it
how
it,
what
you
learned
from
The
Today
event
and
I.
Didn't
we
didn't
get
any
reports
specifically
about
I
I
got
some
notes
later
on
that
Randy's
forwarded
on
to
me,
but
I
really
wanted
to
understand
like
what
worked?
What
did
you
all
think
worked
and
then?
J
What
do
you
think
is
going
to
change
this
following
year
or
years,
mostly
because
we
want
to
I'm
sure
there's
Lessons
Learned?
So
if
there's
anything
you
want
to
share
and
I
will
share
with
you
what
I
got
in
terms
of
feedback
from
folks.
N
Great,
thank
you.
Yes,
Madam
chair
counselor.
We
we
learned
quite
a
bit.
One
is
that
we
understood
we
had
to
seed
this
event
right,
which
is
why
we
wanted
to
do
it
this
first
year
without
asking
for
this
kind
of
help.
Obviously,
tourism,
tourism,
Santa,
Fe
and
Randy
helped
us
quite
a
bit
with
about
fourteen
thousand
dollars
of
that
of
that
large
budget,
but
we
wanted
to
to
be
able
to
do
that
on
our
own.
N
What
we
learned
was
that
we
needed
to
actually
teach
some
of
our
other
locals,
who
hadn't
had
an
experience
with
this,
what
the
offerendas
were,
and
they
weren't
as
decorated
or
populated,
as
we
would
have
liked
to
do
that.
We
had
a
lot
of
sponsorship
from
our
hotels,
which
was
excellent,
that
built
that
paid
for
the
building
of
them.
N
We
had
lots
of
items
that
folks
could
use,
but
we
landed
up
really
decorating
them
ourselves
at
Kiwanis,
Club,
decorated
them
and
LaFonda
helped
us
as
well,
but
we
learned
that
we
needed
to
create
more
awareness
of
what
the
offrendas
are
and
really
hope
to
get
people
to
be
able
to
do
that.
The
one
thing
that
was
really
successful
was
that
we
actually
found
little
Polaroid
cameras.
N
I
can't
even
believe
that
they
still
exist
and
we
had
little
tiny
frames,
and
so
what
people
were
doing
is
they
were
bringing
us
they
were
taking
photos
of
their
loved
ones
off
of
their
cell
phones
and
taking
a
photo
and
then
putting
them
in
the
little
frame
and
putting
them
in
on
the
offender.
So
that
was
a
really
successful.
The
showing
the
movie
to
see
people
on
blankets,
watching
Coco,
with
their
kids
on
the
Plaza,
was
just
phenomenal,
and
we
would
like
the
candlelight
procession.
N
We
gave
out
2
000
candles,
almost
3
000,
glow
necklaces
and
the
the
procession
that
we
did
around.
We
want
that
to
grow.
We
wanted
to
be
able
to
go
outside,
of
the
plaza
and
actually
to
maybe
have
multiple
mobile
offenders
as
well,
that
we
can
actually
do
that.
So
that's
something
that
we
could
grow.
We
did
have
great
cooperation
from
the
Ambassador,
the
embassy
of
Mexico.
We
had
great
from
paraguas,
we
had
Aztec
Dancers,
but
we
still
need
to
make
additional
Outreach
to
some
of
our
folks
here.
N
J
Thank
you
and
I
guess
what
I'm
hoping
for
and
would
be
a
requirement
since
we
keep
touting
that
Dia
de
los
Muertos
is
for
our
Latino
Mexicano
population
in
in
Santa
Fe.
Is
that
the
things
that
I
noticed
the
one
day
I
was
there
and
I
also
got
feedback?
The
second
day
is
there
was
no
advertisement
on
the
event
in
Spanish
big
glaring
problem.
J
If
you
want
to
get
the
Mexican
population
Spanish-speaking
population,
we
need
to
advertise
to
them,
I
mean
that's
just
like
a
no-brainer,
then
they
didn't
have
anyone
that
was
emptying
in
Spanish.
How
do
you
expect
the
Mexican
or
Spanish-speaking
population
to
know
what's
going
on
when
you
only
have
a
English-speaking,
announcer
or
MC,
so
I'm,
just
letting
you
know
that
was
some
criticism.
J
I
got
from
constituents
saying
that
they
didn't
feel
welcome
as
people
that
spoke
Spanish,
and
the
other
thing
is
that
since
I
was
changing,
trying
to
change
aspects
of
having
more
local
events
down,
at
the
plaza
with
the
ordinance
change
and
I
got
feedback
not
just
from
vendors,
but
some
of
my
colleagues.
J
So
I
would
like
us
to
support
local
as
most
as
much
as
possible
and
I
think
the
way
we
did
do
that
is
you
all
collaborated
with
a
group
that
brought
in
the
musicians
and
different
entertainers
and
I.
Think
that
was
great.
All
of
those
had
a
lot
of
local
clout
and
some
great
following
so
I
would
suggest
continuing
doing
that.
J
So
there's
things
that
I
think
were
went
well
that
I
saw
and
what
people
told
me
I
just
want
us
to
continue
to
support
the
local
for
saying
that
this
is
for
the
local
population
to
bring
more
Latino
community
members
to
the
Plaza.
Then
we
need
to
do
it
and
actually
focus
on
it
and
the
money.
Even
though
it's
for
tourism,
you
say
it
should
also
be
to
get
local
people
down
there
and
I
actually
think
we
should
be
supporting
through
tourism
dollars,
Juneteenth
and
pride,
because
we
don't
even
know
what
that
could
entail.
J
What
that
could
bring
to
Santa
Fe
what
community
members
would
come
to
Santa
Fe,
because
we
have
these
celebrations
that
continue
to
grow.
So
I.
Just
think
this
part
of
me
wants
us
to
part
of
me:
wants
us
to
just
support
the
New
Year's
Eve
event
for
four
years
and
then
just
wait
another
year
and
see
how
you
all
improve
upon
the
first
Dia
de
los
Muertos
the
inaugural,
and
see
how
this
next
year,
this
year
that
we're
in
works
out
for
you.
N
So
Madam
chair
counselor,
so
we
run
zazobra
and
I
have
to
I
have
I.
That
is
my
baby
right.
I
have
to
fundraise
for
zazobra.
If
I
don't
get
the
help
from
the
city,
I
don't
know
that
I
can
continue.
Dia
dos
Muertos-
that's
that
was
sixteen
thousand
dollars
that
not
not
only
did
I
take
money
from
sponsorships
from
zazobra
I
had
to
take
Zozobra
funds
of
Sixteen
thousand
dollars
to
get
this
event
off
so
so
that
was.
That
was
one
thing.
One.
N
J
N
Our
our
goal
is
to
better
this
community
one
child
at
a
time
and
when
we
see
folks
who
are
in
high
schools
who
think
that
their
Heritage
is
something
to
be
ashamed
of
that
they
don't
that
we
don't
want
them
on
our
Plaza,
that's
our
mission,
and
so,
if
I
don't
get
any
sleep,
that's
okay,
because
that's
that's
what
I'm
doing
and
so
I
think
that
that's
why
this
event
was
critical.
I
tried
so
hard
with
sazobra
to
make
folks
feel
welcome
and
I
think
it
was
just
a
bridge
too
far.
N
Ours
is
over
this
wacky
thing
that
we
do
here
in
Santa
Fe,
and
so
this
is
really
why
we
wanted
to
be
able
to
do
that,
and
we
will
take
your
suggestions.
The
MC
absolutely,
but
there
were
Spanish
commercials
ran
on
keswave,
so
Estevan
helped
me
record
those,
and
we
had
to
find
a
Spanish
speaker
to
record
those,
and
most
of
the
purchases
from
Amazon
were
for
the
candles
and
those
other
stuff.
N
We
actually
got
things
that
were
we
barely
got
here
because
they
got
held
up
in
customs
because
we
actually
went
to
Mexico
to
get
authentic,
and
so
all
the
stuff
that
was
sold
in
our
merchandise
was
authentic.
All
the
Shakers,
all
the
skulls,
all
of
those
things
and
even
Joe
sheps
drove
a
truck
down
to
Mexico
to
make
sure
that
we
would
make
sure
that
we
would
get
those.
N
So
again,
we
can
look
for
local
Artisans,
who
can
do
those,
and
but
we
did
want
to
make
sure
that
it
was
authentic,
but
those
things
that,
like
the
battery
health
candles,
you
know
we
didn't
think
it
was
appropriate
for
2
000
people
have
lit
candles
on
the
Plaza,
so
we
thought
it
was
much
easier
to
do.
Those
ferments.
J
Thank
you,
I
think
yeah
I
mean
I.
I,
think
that
this
is
a
great
opportunity
and
I
wanted
to
see.
I
want
to
see
it
succeed,
I
guess
I'm,
just
really
conflicted
by
tourism
for
tourism's
sake
and
actually
a
community
event.
That's
for
community
members
and
that's
the
contradiction
for
me.
Well.
L
Madam,
chair
counselor,
there's
no
intent
to
attempt
to
commercialize
this
in
a
way
that
would
be
more
attractive
to
visitation.
I
just
think
it's
a
unique
opportunity
for
a
lot
of
our
our
markets.
It
may
not
be
Denver
if
they
have
one
up
there.
I
live
there
for
12
15
years
and
I
never
heard
about
it.
So
I'm
not
sure
how
successful
it
is,
but
West
Texas.
There
are
a
lot
of
markets
that
we
deal
with,
who
I
think
would
love
to
come
and
see
this
authentic
program
event?
J
Well,
I
think.
The
reason
why
you
haven't
seen
tourism
being
promoted
is
because
dia
de
las
Muertos
is
a
local
event,
and
it's
for
local
people
that
celebrate
it
and
has
a
spiritual
connection.
So
that's
where
I
see
this
challenge
for
me,
I'd
like
us
to
support
New
Year's
Eve
because,
like
I
said,
it's
tried
and
true
I
just
want
to
give
Dia
de
los
Muertos
I
want
tourism
to
support
you
all
I,
just
think
that
putting
a
contract
for
four
years
is
not
the
right
approach.
Right
now
and
I'll
yield
the
floor.
K
Mr
Sandoval
you
do
four
events
for
the
city
is
that
right.
K
Okay,
it
seems
like
I
read
in
the
newspaper
recently
that
you
got
named
one
of
those
10
that
make
a
difference.
Is
that
right
was
that
you
that's.
K
Thank
you
I
think
that
what
you
and
the
Kiwanis
do
is
astounding
and.
K
We
could
make
all
of
these
City
events
every
event
that
we
do
in
this
city,
every
event
that
gets
City
money
and
there's
a
bunch
of
them.
L
Madam,
chair
counselor,
it
needs
to
be
spent
for
marketing
and
advertising
of
Tourism
or
anything
that
has
involved
the
development
of
Tourism
to
the
city.
K
We're
pretty
careful
now
about
not
spreading
that
money
around
just
hither
and
yawn
from
what
I've
seen
in
the
past
I've
been
around
for
a
while,
and
it
seems
like
we're
kind
of
careful
about
how
we
spend
our
largest
tax
money.
L
K
Mr
Sandoval,
we
came
up
short
on
this
project
and
we
had
a
pretty
sizable
donation
from
pnm
and
we
ended
up
Robin
zazobra
to
pay.
For
this
event
right.
K
Speak
to
many
many
in
this
city
and
also
speak
to
many
many
that
don't
live
in
this
city
that
want
to
participate
and
want
to
be
a
part
of
those
events.
Those
cultural
events
speak
to
them.
Also,
can
we
depend
on
pnm
and
zazobra
to
carry
through
our
events.
M
N
Sorry,
counselor
yeah
pnm
made
it
clear
that
it
was
a
one-time,
try
to
get
this
off
the
ground,
and
my
board
was
not
happy
that
sixteen
thousand
dollars
from
zazobra
went
to
cover
the
deficit.
But
we
made
a
commitment
because
we
believed
that
it
was
important
to
show
our
youth
on
the
south
side
that
they
they
had
a
place
on
our.
K
Plaza
well,
I
hope
that
you
go
back
and
tell
all
of
our
friends
that
the
Kiwanis
that
we
appreciate
them.
K
We
see
the
amount
of
volunteerism
that
comes
from
that
club,
the
deep
love
of
this
city
that
they
show
year
in
and
year
out.
By
doing
four
events,
that's
I
mean
you
barely
get
done
with
one,
but
what
you
start
the
next
one
and
I,
don't
think
that
this
is
a
big
ask
and
I
think
it's
a
very,
very
good
expenditure
of
these
funds,
because
we
don't
know
we
have
no
way
of
knowing
exactly
How
Deeply.
K
I'm
grateful
to
you,
Raymond
and
I
hope
that
you'll
Express
gratitude
to
the
members
of
the
Kiwanis,
because
I
know
they
work
like
crazy
all
year
round.
So
thank
you,
chair.
G
Thank
you
so
much
Madam,
chair,
I'm,
sorry,
and
thank
you
both
for
being
here.
G
You
know,
I
I,
think
this
has
been
a
really
interesting
conversation
and
there's
there's
a
couple
pieces
that
I'm
taking
away
from
this
I
appreciate:
councilor
Lindell,
the
discussion
around
Rogers
tax
and,
quite
quite
frankly,
I
I
enjoy
the
opportunity
to
be
creating
a
community
event,
utilizing
Lodgers
tax
that
it
seems
like
there's,
there's
a
dual
function
that
we
can
provide
here,
but
I
I
do
think
that
the
comments
from
councilman,
veteriel
and
Council
Rivera
do
speak
to
the
the
fine
line
that
that
needs
to
be
walked
with
this
event,
and
so
there's
both
this
benefit
of
providing
a
another
segment
of
our
community,
an
opportunity
to
see
their
culture
reflected
on
the
Plaza
and
there's
also,
this
incredible
benefit
that
that
I
know
is
something
that
I
have
always
cherished
growing
up
in
Santa
Fe
of
opportunities
to
really
learn
and
experience
other
cultures
and
other
Traditions,
but
that
how
that
is
done
is
is
really
crucial
so
that
it
is
done
in
a
way
with
the
communities
leading
the
way
Ray.
G
If
you
could
speak
a
little
bit
both
to
the
partners
that
you
worked
with
for
this
past
year,
but
also
are
there
additional
partners
that
do
do
not
have
the
opportunity
to
work
with
this
past
year
that
you
will
be
reaching
out
to
for
future
events
to
really
make
sure
that
that
balance
is
kept.
Yes,.
N
Madam,
chairman
and
counselor-
thank
you
for
that.
Yes,
you
know
we
didn't
have
an
opportunity
to
reach
out
to
some
other
of
our
local
Mexican
American
residents
here.
I
think
that
we
need
to
do
that.
We
had
a
great
participation
by
paraguas.
We
had
great
participation
by
by
the
folk
art
museum.
We
had
great
participation
by
the
Mexican
embassy
as
well.
We
had
Aztec
authentic
Aztec
Dancers.
N
We
had
the
we
had
other
dancers
that
were
there
and
I
think
that
that's
the
entire
opportunity
is
now
to
be
able
to
show
that
we
could
get
this
off
the
ground
and
that
it
was
successful
and
that
people
really
were
excited
about
it.
I
think
it
actually
helps
us
get
more
input,
because
you
know,
when
you
say,
hey
we're
going
to
do
something.
N
People
don't
know
exactly
what
is
going
to
be
what
you're
going
to
accomplish,
and
so
now
we
can
go
to
them
with
a
with
a
record,
and
if
you
just
give
me
just
a
second,
you
know
I
think
that
and
counselor
vrl
I
hear
your
point
about
getting
off
the
ground,
but
I
I
hope
at
this
point
that
Kiwanis
has
proved
that
it
can
run
events
successfully.
N
We
took
over
July
4th
with
two
weeks
to
go
when
mayor
Gonzalez
called
us
and
said
boys
and
girls
up
is
out,
can
you
do
this
and
we
were
able
to
put
a
successful
event
together,
so
I
think
our
track
record
of
running
these
events
is
something
that
speaks
for
itself,
even
though
we
just
have
one
event
behind
us.
N
But
again,
counselor
back
to
your
point.
I
think
that,
having
now
the
ability
to
point
to
what
we
did
allows
people
to
feel
like
they
can
have
input
to
say
hey,
you
did
I
you
like
I
liked
this
or
you
excluded
this
or
you
didn't
do
this.
Obviously
the
MCA
was
a
huge
oversight,
so
I'm
glad
that
you
brought
that
up
you're,
absolutely
right.
If
we
want
to
be
able
to
have
that
culture,
we
need
to
have
a
bilingual
MC
that
can
go
back
and
forth
in
Spanish
and
English.
G
Thank
you.
You
know,
I
understand,
councilman
veterans,
kind
of
hesitancy
to
do
all
four
years.
One
one
thing
I
would
say,
though,
is
that
I
think
that
it
probably
will
take
a
few
years
to
really
massage
this
out
and
I
would
imagine
that
the
consistency
of
knowing
that
that
funding
is
coming
through?
However,
if
I
am
not
mistaken,
we
can
always
not
appropriate
these
appropriate.
These
dollars
am
I
correct
that
there
is,
there
probably
is
something
in
the
contract
that
says
you
know,
subject
to
appropriation
by
the
governing
body,
am
I
correct.
M
L
B
Okay
and
and
I'm
on
Madam,
chair
and
councilor
cassid
I'm
on
item
17,
the
appropriation
Clause,
yes,
I.
B
G
So,
given
that
I
I
do
feel
comfortable
with
approving
a
four-year
contract,
with
the
understanding
that
there
there
are
some
some
continued
developments
that
need
to
be
made
with
this.
This
event,
I,
unfortunately,
was
not
able
to
attend
myself
this
year,
but
I
I
do
look
forward
to
hopefully
attending
next
year
and
I.
Think
the
continued
engagement
with
the
community
is
something
that
we're
that
will
be
important
for
us
to
watch
and
to
to
get
more
information
on
and
to
hear
about,
as
we
continue
to
move
forward
with
this.
G
So
I
really
I
do
appreciate
the
work
of
the
Kiwanis
and
and
all
the
the
events
that
that
are
put
on
in
our
city.
I
think
that
it
really
is
important
to
have
these
various
community
events,
and
there
are
some
different
Avenues
by
which
we
might
be
supporting
them.
I
I
think
that
the
general
the
larger
question
that
Council
Rivera
brought
up
of.
How
do
we
choose
which
events
are
sponsored
by
the
city
and
which
are
not
Randy
to
your
point?
You
know
this.
G
One
is
one
that
tourism
would
like
to
see
where,
whereas
Fourth
of
July
does
not
come
from
the
tourism
budget,
it
comes
from
a
different
funding
source
within
the
city.
So
I
think
that
that's
probably
part
of
a
larger
conversation
that
maybe
we
need
to
be
thinking
about
as
a
governing
body
of
as
we're
looking
at
different
events
and
as
we
want
them
promoted.
What
are
some
of
our
funding
sources
that
we
have
as
opportunities,
and
sometimes
tourism
might
be
one,
and
this
one
looks
like
it.
L
Madam
chair
counselor
I'd
also
like
to
remind
the
committee
that
you
do
have
appropriated
this
last
year
and
and,
and
this
last
year
brought
it
up
to
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
from
seventy
five
thousand
dollars
that
is
available
through
occupancy
tax,
Advisory
Board
for
any
event
to
apply
for
funds
for,
because
tourism
wanted.
This
felt
that
this
was
one
that
we
wanted
to
support
and
and
be
able
to
continue.
It
seemed
better
to
not
use
part
of
that
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
come
up
with
these
extra
dollars.
G
Thank
you,
Randy
I,
appreciate
that
additional
information,
I
I,
have
no
other
questions.
You
know,
Ray
I,
do
appreciate
your
willingness
to
take
this
on
because,
as
has
been
expressed
today,
it
really
is
a
big
responsibility
to
to
be
taking
on
an
event
of
this
nature
and
to
really
represent
it
well
and
to
both
provide
that
opportunity.
G
For
the
you
know,
Mexican
Community,
within
our
city,
as
well
as
those
of
us
who
were
not
raised
with
these
Traditions,
to
really
learn
about
them
in
a
authentic
and
real
way,
and
as
councilman
veteriel
mentioned,
you
know
really
being
careful
of
the
commercialization
and
and
how
can
we
utilize
this
as
an
opportunity
to
bring
more
Mutual
understanding
and
respect
and
appreciation
for
a
large
segment
of
our
community?
That
is
frequently
invisible,
so
best
of
luck
to
you
and
taking
this
on
because
it
truly
is
a
big
opportunity.
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
A
Thank
you
and
I
just
want
to
thank
the
committee
for
this
conversation.
I
think
it's
it's
a
good
one.
There's
lots
of
policy
questions
that
are
being
asked
in
various
ways,
and
so
because
we
have
a
lot
more
to
move
on
to
tonight.
I
won't
belabor
anything
but
to
say
when
we
we've
been
doing
the
New
Year's
celebration
for
how
many
years
now
on
the
Plaza
this.
A
N
Small
and
but
now
we
have
a
beautiful
tinsia
that
was
made
by
one
of
our
Spanish
Artisans
and
we
have
fireworks
off
of
the
roof
of
LaFonda.
And
it's
it's
one
of
my
favorite
events.
L
It
in
after
year,
two
it
was
recognized
in
USA
Today
as
one
of
the
10
best
small
City
celebrations
of
New
Year's
yeah.
A
Right
so
so
just
I,
you
know,
just
as
a
point
of
you
know
these
things
these
these
events
that
are
successful
in
our
community.
You
know
evolve
over
time,
get
better
over
time.
We
learn
from
our
mistakes.
We
learn
how
to
do
them
better
and
and
we
get
more
buy-in
and
more
participation
and
then
they
become
really
worthy
of
going
to
and
and
there
is
that
fine
line
about
you
know
you
don't
want
to
commercialize
it.
A
You
want
to
keep
it
authentic,
so
I
think
this
has
been
a
very
interesting
conversation
and
I
just
wanted
to
point
the
evolution
of
how
these
things
happen.
But
thank
you
for
being
here.
Thank
you
for
all
your
work
and
if
we
have
a
motion
from
the
committee
move.
J
Vote.
Thank
you,
madam
chair
just
wanted
to
thank
Kiwanis.
We
know
you
all
have
a
track
record.
This
vote
is
not
based
on
the
fact
that
we
don't
think
you
could
do
it.
I.
Just
think
that
when
tourism
is
involved,
the
four
years
with
New
Year's
Eve
makes
sense
to
me
when
it's
talking
about
a
cultural
event
like
this
I
think
they
should
support
it.
J
But
I
want
to
make
sure
that
you
all
kind
of
tweak
this
out
and
make
sure
that
all
those
the
things
that
I
brought
up
and
other
community
members
bring
up
that
you
take
that
into
consideration,
maybe
even
making
it
just
one
day,
instead
of
two
to
really
consolidate
it
and
make
it
an
event
so
that
people
are
there
not
separated
from
one
day
to
the
next
I.
Think
that
we're
we
need
to
figure
that
out
like
how
tourism
is
going
to
support
certain
Community
or
cultural
events
and
I
still
don't
feel
like.
J
We
have
a
clear
indication
of
what
that
looks
like
other
than
what
you've
expressed
today.
So
good
luck
and
we'll
see
how
this
goes
when
it
moves
on
to
the
next
commission
or
committee
I
think
it's
Council.
Thank
you.
C
A
Sub-Recipient
project
participation
agreement
in
the
total
amount
of
two
million
dollars
of
American
Rescue
plan
act,
known
as
arpa
funds
to
underwrite
the
acquisition
of
The
Lamplighter
in
this
agreement
falls
under
the
first
cat
first
statutory
category
to
respond
to
the
covid-19
public
health
emergency
or
its
negative
economic
impacts,
Bella
Luce,
Apartments,
2022
LLP,
and
we
have
Alex
Ladd
with
us
tonight
and
I
believe
councilwoman
Villarreal.
You
pulled
this
item
yeah.
Yes,.
J
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
thanks.
Alex
for
being
with
us
just
wanted
to
see
if
you
could
just
explain
how
this
funding
allocation
is
different
from
the
funds
that
came
from
cdbg
that
went
towards
Rehabilitation
and
the
conversion
of
the
light
Lamplighter
in
so
maybe
you
could
just
say
that
this
is
a
different
infusion
of
funding
and
how
is
it
different
from
the
cdbg.
D
Chair
Council
Villarreal,
the
cwg
funds
are
from
our
regular
entitlement
Grant,
so
one
of
the
big
uses
for
cdbg
funds
across
the
country.
We
haven't
done
it
as
much
in
Santa,
Fe,
but
I
think
we're
certainly
prioritizing
the
preservation
and
renovation
of
existing
housing
specifically
to
create
affordability,
restrictions
and
serve
the
people
who
have
a
hard
time
either
affording
homes
in
the
market
Workforce,
renters
or
who
have
subsidy
rental
assistance
subsidy
and
they
can't
find
a
place
to
use
it.
D
So
the
cdbg
funds
that
this
project
applied
for
was
part
of
our
regular
cdbg
funding
cycle
and
met
all
of
the
criteria
of
the
regular
cdbg
entitlement.
Grant.
The
arpa
funds
are
specifically
focused
on
responding
to
housing,
can
or
conditions
created
by
the
global
pandemic.
In
this
case
it's
to
respond
to
housing
insecurity
and
how
that
insecurity
leads
to
people
getting
infected
and
and
not
having
places
to
quarantine
or
to
be
safe,
as
well
as
all
of
the
economic
Ripple
effects
from
the
pandemic.
So
folks
lost
jobs
and
lost
incomes
and
lost
housing.
J
D
Chair
Council
Villarreal,
that
is
correct.
This
is
to
offset
the
acquisition
cost,
so
the
the
property
has
already
been
purchased
using
funding
from
the
ancorum
foundation.
So
much
like
the
Santa
Fe
Suites
project,
which
received
funds
through
the
cares
act,
which
was
the
first
Recovery
Act
that
Congress
passed,
and
there
was
an
interim
this.
This
is
pretty
typical,
where
there
will
be
something
called
a
bridge
loan
that's
put
in
place,
while
the
permanent
financing
set
up.
D
In
this
case,
though,
we're
we're
trying
to
avoid
any
financing,
because
the
revenues
from
this
project
will
be
so
restricted
because
of
the
the
low
cost
of
the
rents.
Also
that
a
percentage
of
the
of
the
units
will
be
set
aside
for
very
for
special
needs,
renters,
so
very,
very
low
income
renters,
who
are
likely
to
be
fully
supported
with
have
either
no
income
or
very
little
incomes
and
be
fully
supported
with
rental
assistance.
D
So
combining
our
the
city's
arpa
funds
with
the
county,
zarpa
funds
were
able
to
pay
back
the
bridge
loan
and
the
property
can
then
be
acquired
without
any
debt.
D
J
Okay,
I
I
was
actually
thinking.
It
was
more
than
that
and
and
Quorum
covered
that,
but
you're
saying
that
3.2
is
being
offset
by
our
arpa
and
then
County
arpa
as
well.
That's
correct,
okay,
and
so
what
role
will
and
Cory
play
now
that
they
are
being
reimbursed
for
the
bridge
loan
or
the
bridge
funding?
Will
they
still
have
a
role
to
play?.
D
Madam,
chair,
councilor,
Villarreal,
we're
hoping
that
and
quorum
is
going
to
be
willing
to
help
with
some
of
the
operations,
so
some
of
the
the
costs
that
are
related
to
keeping
vulnerable
renters
housed
creating
services
to
support
them
while
they're
housed.
D
This
is
a
new
area
for
encorem.
You
know
I,
think
most
of
you
are
familiar
there.
Their
Charter
is
to
support
health
care
services,
but
there's
a
lot
of
increasing
awareness.
Finally,
that
housing
is
actually
a
health
care
issue
as
well
and
so
they're
hoping
that
once
they
get
their
Capital
freed
up
from
this
project,
they
would
then
provide
a
similar
function
for
another
project.
J
D
Madam,
chair,
Council
Villarreal,
yes,
people
also
still
think
the
city
owns
Santa
Fe
Suites,
which
I
it's
hard
to
shake
this
idea,
but
these
are
both
privately
owned
properties.
So
the
owner,
the
Bella
Luz
LLC,
is
a
an
affiliate
of
the
JL
gray
company,
which
is
one
of
the
bigger
property
management
companies
in
New
Mexico.
It's
a
new
mexico-based
company
they're
based
in
Las
Cruces
they've
bought
properties
all
over
the
state.
J
Thank
you
and
then,
but
this
contract
is
actually
between
us
and
Bella
Luce
and
then
it
also
kind
of
folds
in
the
local
lead
agency,
which
is
I,
believe
LifeLink.
J
D
D
D
At
this
point,
it's
we
don't
have
a
commitment
to
that
other
than
just
making
sure
that
it's
in
effect
and
that
it's
being
followed
at
the
property
and.
D
Madam,
chair,
counselor
Villarreal,
it
is
completed,
I
I
have
to
confess
I
haven't
seen
a
draft
of
the
social
services
plan.
That's
not
really
my
area
of
expertise,
so
I
believe
Cody
who
works
with
me.
I
think
Cody
was
having
the
Human
Services
folks
review
it
just
to
make
sure
it
wasn't
sort
of
out
of
line
in
any
way
and
everyone's
it's
it's.
It's
not
100
specific,
because
we
don't
really
know
who's
going
to
be
living
there
and
what
their
needs
are
going
to
be.
But
it's
you
know
it's.
J
D
Madam,
chair
councilor,
Via
Real,
that
is
correct.
It's
an
internal
document
I
was
just
wondering
if
the.
D
Because
it's
listed
as
a
performance
measure
to
have
the
plan
in
place,
we
would
have
our
our
staff
and
our
human
services
staff
would
be
reviewing
it
annually.
As
part
of
the
annual
report,
like
I,
said
just
to
make
sure
that
that
it's
it's
being
followed
at
the
property
that
the
all
of
the
yeah,
the
the
folks
who
need
to
benefit
from
it,
are
benefiting
from
it.
J
Right,
you
know,
part
of
me
is
like
interested
in
it
like.
Oh,
what
does
it
actually
say,
but
then
also
I,
don't
think
we
should
be
doing
getting
involved
with
kind
of
operational
minutia.
That's
important!
It's
important,
but
I
don't
know
if
it's
at
this
level,
so
I'm
just
I,
guess
I'll.
Just
let
you
know
community
members
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are.
We
are
up
and
on
it
and
making
sure
that
it's
being
followed
so
hearing
that
you'll
have
an
annual
review
sounds
great
I.
Think
that's
it.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
A
You
all
right,
we
are
on
to
item
J.
We
have
this
and
two
other
items
tonight:
request
for
approval
of
a
mid-year
budget
adjustment
resolution,
utilizing
FY,
22
gross
receipts
and
Lodgers
tax
revenue
above
budgeted
estimates
to
fund
a
package
of
priorities
that
include
the
South
Side
teen
center
police
department,
administration,
tourism,
Santa
Fe,
Public,
Safety
radio
system
and
Regional
emergency
communications
center,
recording
system,
totaling,
983,
873
dollars.
A
C
C
Dc
Valdez
thanks.
Yes,
sir,
my
question
was
so
you
want
to
convert
three
Patrol
safety,
Aid
positions
to
two
crime
team
technicians
which
I'm
okay
with,
but
the
patrol
safety
Aid.
Wasn't
that
the
program
that
was
started
by
the
former
Chief
to
try
to
help
recruit
a
younger
Santa
fans
into
the
police
department,
Madam.
O
Chair
Council
Rivera.
Yes,
that
was
the
intent
of
that
program
from
the
Inception
of
it.
Until
we
made
the
recommendation
to
reclassify
some
positions
to
crafting
technicians,
we've
only
had
two
candidates
that
were
incumbents,
that
served
in
those
positions,
and
we
did
a
lot
of
effort
to
try
to
fill
those
positions,
but
they
were
often
competing
with
our
full-time
Public
Safety
aides.
C
O
Rivera
initially,
we
had
two
young,
ladies
who
were
incumbents,
that
joined
in
that
capacity,
but
we,
but
we
saw
just
talked
with
our
candidates-
that
we're
trying
to
recruit
what
really
scared
them
was
the
termed
position
that
is
only
for
three
years
and
then
they
either
had
to
test
for
police
officer
or
their
employment
would
come
to
an
end,
so
that
was
kind
of
a
scary
thing
for
them.
So
we
got
from
some
of
the
feedback
that
we
had.
O
So
that's
why
we
asked
to
increase
the
number
of
post
safeties
because
that's
been
a
very
good
program
for
us.
We
do
get
some
officers
that
do
come
from
Public,
Safety,
Aid
and
some
other
civilian
spots
in
our
department.
It's
not
the
number
that
we
would
like
to
see,
but
this
last
Academy
did
had
a
polk
safety.
Eight
there's
been
service
for
some
time,
has
a
great
deal
of
experience
test
and
now
he's
going
to
be
working
to
attend
the
next
Academy.
They
have
their
physical
assessment
here
in
the
next
two
weeks.
O
C
O
C
That's
all
I
had
I,
we
hadn't
had
any
updates
on
the
program
and
whether
it
was
working
or
not,
and
then
I
saw
this
and
I
would
ask
about
it.
Thank
you,
Chief
appreciate
it.
C
So
I
I
think
I
knew,
but
it
just
didn't
seem
to
click.
Is
the
jpa
between
us
and
Santa
Fe
County
says
it
will
split
the
capital
cost
and
here
we're
not
doing
that.
We're
taking
on
the
whole
cost.
Q
So,
actually
for
the
reroute,
we
are
because
we
benefited
off
of
that.
We
are
splitting
the
cost
of
the
sua
2
with
them
according
to
the
jpa,
but
since
we
benefited
or
benefiting
from
the
PSR
from
the
actual
reroute
of
the
core,
because
we're
using
the
we're
using
the
the
state
system,
we
we
that's
what
that
MOA
was
about
was
we
are
taking
the
full
response,
the
cost
of
that
of
that
of
that
reroute
of
the
core
reroute
okay,.
Q
Q
Be
involved
in
the
reroute,
no
because
they
are
not
utilizing
the
state
system.
We
are
okay
at
this
time,
they're
not
utilizing
it,
but
we're
utilizing
it.
You.
Q
And
that's
what
the
sua2
and
that's
why
that
first
year!
But
that
has
nothing
to
do
with
this
money
that
we're
the
194
that
yeah,
that
that's
that's
a
whole
separate.
Q
J
You
counselor
councilwoman
be
around.
Thank
you,
madam
chair
supportive
of
some
of
the
changes
for
this
bar
specifically
for
Recreation
and
the
changes
for
the
police
department
and
then
the
it
radio
system.
One
clarification
I
need
is
from
Mr
Randy
Randall,
just
to
get
more
clarity,
since
your
memo
is
kind
of
sparse.
If
you
could
just
say
more
about
the
transportation
from
the
airport
and
how
that
will
work
with
the
funding
this
allocation
and
how
much
it
will
go
towards
it.
L
L
the,
since
that
was
requested
and
submitted.
We've
actually
been
able
to
enter
into
a
standby
agreement
with
a
small
Transportation
provider
in
Santa,
Fe
Bernard's
transportation
service.
Who
will
be?
We
will
pay
a
small
monthly
fee
of
right
now,
it's
250
dollars.
The
number
may
have
to
increase
if
in
fact
he
doesn't
get
any
business
out
of
the
standby
he'll
be
standing
by
off-site
and
will
be
available
to
be
called
for
transportation
services.
L
So
this
may
preclude
the
the
use
of
that
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
the
airport
transportation
off
site.
There
is
also
a
need,
though,
for
additional
funding
for
the
on-site
Transportation,
that's
missing
to
get
people
from
the
lots
that
are
as
far
as
from
here
to
LaFonda
into
the
airport,
and
that
would
be
the
alternate
use
if,
in
fact,
this
new
idea
with
Bernard's
transportation
services
Works
to
alleviate
the
stranded
passenger
problem-
that's
existed
out
there
so.
H
L
Chair
counselor,
they
do
pay
it's
an
agreed
upon
rate
for
the
late
flight
of
45
dollars
to
get
to
one
destination
if
the
vehicle
is
shared
and
they
end
up
going
to
two
destinations
or
three
destinations.
It's
ten
dollars
additional
for
each
additional
destination,
so
two
couples
could
come
in
and
for
fifty
five
dollars
end
up
going
to
two
separate
destinations
with
the
one
service.
L
If,
in
fact,
the
demand
exceeds
what
he
can
handle,
he
would
go
back
to
the
airport
and
and
finish
the
transportation.
That's
required.
H
L
Specifically
for
the
10
o'clock
flight
coming
in
from
Denver,
that's
where
all
the
hotels
have
continued
to
tell
me
that
we've
run
into
the
problem
of
of
late
arrivals
without
transportation
being
available.
Uber
and
Lyft
prefer
to
stay
in
the
downtown
area
where
they
can
pick
up
more
frequent
rides
or
they
don't
want
to
be
up
at
that
time
of
night.
So
it's
been
a
a
problem
where
hotels
have
actually
sent
Vehicles
out
to
the
airport
too
pick
up
people
who
are
stranded.
L
Madam,
chair
counselor,
it
appears
during
during
the
regular
hours
the
other
late
flight
is
coming
in
out
of
Dallas
I,
think
it's
at
7
25,
and
it
appears
that
there's
adequate
Transportation
available
out
there
or
that
there's
enough
Lyft
or
Uber
support
to
handle
the
problem.
We
will
Ex.
If
we
find
there's
a
problem,
we
can
get
him
to
do
the
standby
for
the
725
as
well.
J
All
right,
thank
you
and
then
the
other
question
was
the
contract
for
the
margarita
Trail
app.
Can
you
tell
us
what
that
entails.
L
Would
be
a
similar
app
to
what
currently
exists
where
people
can
go
on
the
trail
with
an
electronic
passport,
they
can
be
restricted
to
having
it
stamped
just
twice
per
day,
and
but
it
would
be
available
for
all
of
the
now
42
different
locations
that
participate
with
the
passport.
It's
the
uniqueness
of
the
restriction
on
the
stamping
that
adds
a
lot
to
the
cost.
L
When
we,
the
original
one,
was
built,
it
was
fifty
thousand
dollars.
The
80
may
end
up
being
high,
we're
just
not
sure
we
had
talked
to
the
original
developer
and
to
redo.
It
would
be
more
than
the
50
we
were
told.
So
we
just
we
don't
have
a
specific
number
yet.
J
L
Madam,
chair
Council
yeah.
We
would
put
an
RFP
out
because
it's
above
sixty
thousand
dollars.
J
B
A
We
have
two
more
items
pulled
by
counselor
Lindell
item
K,
which
is
consideration
of
resolution
number
2022
Dash,
something
a
resolution
adopting
a
Midtown
Community
Development
plan
for
the
Midtown
Redevelopment
project.
We
have
Lee
logsdon
Midtown
asset
development.
We
may
have
others
in
on
zoom
and
I
think
we
have
other
subject
matter:
experts
in
the
room
as
well
and
counselor.
Let's
see
councilor
Lindell,
you
pulled
this
okay,
sorry!
H
K
I'll
start
by
saying,
I
think
that
this
development
plan
deserves
an
entire
council
meeting
to
discuss
it
and
to
allow
the
public
to
have
some
input
on
it.
I
think
that
it's
massive
we
are
committing
to
many
many
many
many
many
things
in
this
plan
and
it's
very
aspirational
with
very
few
specifics,
and
let
me
just
jump
to
the
fiscal
impact
report
which
I
am
totally
and
completely
I'm,
not
really
sure
why
it's
here
there
isn't
a
number
on
it
and
I'm
completely
uncomfortable.
K
K
H
I
R
A
R
So
when,
when
this
was
drafted,
we
were,
we
were
extrapolating
a
lot
of
information
from
the
Midtown
engagement
partners
and
through
the
public
engagement
process
about
aspirational
ideas.
So
there's
elements
within
the
mass
the
way
the
community
development
plan
is
written
is
it
starts
out
with
some
aspirational
guiding
principles,
not
necessarily
for
implementation,
but
ways
that
we
thought
that
strategies
that
would
be
implemented
would
be
developed.
R
So
you
know
that
you
can't
con
contest
that
each
neighborhood
within
Santa
Fe
has
its
own
unique
characters
and,
as
we
begin
to
develop,
Midtown
that
we
want
the
process
for
development
and
the
types
of
designs
and
Street
patterns.
Etc
were
Guided
by
principles
that
that
are
unique
to
Santa
Fe.
So
that's
what
a
planner
does.
R
And
so
we
tried
to
build
strategies
around
those
unique
characters,
whether
it
was
the
social
composition,
meaning
the
community,
demographics,
the
patterns
of
development,
Street
patterns
that
are
unique
to
Santa
Fe,
but
everything
that
we
sort
of
heard
from
people
on
what
makes
Santa
Fe
special.
Those
are
the
things
we
were
trying
to
capture
so
again.
There's
aspirational
qualities
to
the
community
development
plan,
and
then
it
gets
down
into
actual
strategies
that
getting
that
will
get
incorporated
into
rfps.
K
Well,
thank
you
Daniel,
but
this
talks
specifically
about
the
unique
characteristics
and
assets
of
those
neighborhoods.
But
let's
go
back
a
page
where,
on
page
seven
it
says
the
development
of
a
new
City
Civic
Center
on
adjacent
Parcels,
to
bring
government
services
to
the
center
of
the
city
is
another
proposal.
K
R
So
you
may
be
looking
at
Old
documentation
because
in
fact,
over
the
course
of
years
since
2018
people
had
varying
opinions
about
that
it
wasn't
a
singular
perspective
and
we
again
we
wanted
to
capture
the
idea
that
if
people
wanted
to
see
government
services
at
Midtown
that
it
also
included
Community
Services
in
it,
so
that
it
wasn't
just
an
isolated
building
that
was
open.
You
know
during
the
week
and
then
closed
at
night
and
on
the
weekends,
but
something
that
was
much
more
Community
oriented.
R
K
R
So
infrastructure,
in
a
modern
era
in
the
2020s,
for
example,
it
continues
to
evolve.
We
we,
the
the
master
plan,
as
you
know,
was
built
on
the
notion
of
a
green
infrastructure
so
that
it
was
adaptable.
It
wasn't
a
concrete
system
that
was
20
feet
below
the
ground
and
all
the
water
would
drain
into
it
and
off-site,
but
more
about
an
adaptable
infrastructure
so
that
it
was
dealing
with
the
actual
actual
realities.
R
So
it
was
resilient
based
on
different
flooding
patterns
that
happened
in
Santa,
Fe
and
the
unpredictability
of
those
patterns
as
as
we
go
into
the
future.
So
the
infrastructure
was
envisioned
and
designed
and
discussed
within
the
master
plan
as
an
adaptable
infrastructure
that
was
resilient
to
the
changing
environmental,
the
changing
environment
that
we're
currently
facing
in
climate
change.
R
So
again,
you're
reading
from
the
introduction,
if
I,
can
help
you
you're
reading
from
the
introduction.
So
the
introduction
just
sets
the
aspirational
approach
to
the
way
that
the
planning
team
was
creating
a
both
the
Community
Development
and
master
plan.
So
these
were
guiding
principles
and
we
wanted
to
let
the
public
know
that
we
heard
their
guiding
principles
and
those
sets
would
serve
as
the
foundation
for
implementation,
both
in
the
master
plan,
as
well
as
a
community
development
plan.
K
Page
14.
under
intent,
the
fourth
block,
strengthen
incentivize
and
increase
talking
about
affordable
housing
that
focuses
on
community
stabilization
of
adjacent
neighborhoods
foreign.
R
Well
again,
the
intent
is
different
than
and
then
a
strategy,
so
the
way
that
the
development
Community
Development
plan
was
structured,
which
is
a
standard
way
that
a
lot
of
plans
are
structured
so
that
one,
it
just
says,
what's
our
objectives
here:
what
are
the
big
cause?
What
are
the
big
causes,
issues
that
we
heard
that
we
want
to
address
so
there's
an
intent
to
address
those
and
that's
what
these
that's?
What
that
section
does
the
next
section
is
the
methods
of
implementation?
R
What
what
tools
do
we
have
to
achieve
those
intents,
and
then
you
see
those
three
boxes
there
and.
R
Right,
let's
talk
about
what
strategies
we
have
available
to
us
to
implement
some
of
them
be
long
term.
Some
of
it
may
be
short
term.
Some
of
them
are
so
immediate,
but
again
as
we
redevelop
the
psych,
these
are
the
strategies
that
we
will
deploy
whenever
we
whenever
is
possible,
whenever
it's
feasible,
whether
it's
an
RFP,
whether
it's
a
a
ground
lease
we
want
to
negotiate
it's
the
ReUse
of
public
space,
the
way
that
parks
and
and
and
and
and
streets
are
used
so
anyway.
R
So
that's
the
way
that
the
the
community
development
plan
was
structured.
So
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
whatever
we
were
doing
at
Midtown,
we
were
paying
attention
to
the
positive
and
potential
negative
impacts
of
development
in
Midtown.
We
heard
a
lot
about
the
potential
for
displacement
and
gentrification
and
the
negative
impacts
of
gentrification,
and
we
wanted
to
see
how
we
might
mitigate
those.
R
So
this
section
talks
a
lot
about
housing,
affordability,
so
that
as
markets
change
in
in
Santa
Fe
and
evolve,
maybe
even
due
to
the
development
here
at
Midtown,
we
want
to
incorporate
affordable
housing
so
that
we
can
stabilize
the
community
as
as
one
of
our
intents
and
so
we
talked
about
specific
strategies
in
the
section
of
how
we
would
achieve
that.
K
It's
just
not
very
specific
under
it's,
it's
very
aspirational
and
that's
terrific,
but
this
will
come
back
and
someone
will
say
well,
we
passed
that
resolution
and
we
said
under
under
methods
of
implementation,
affordable,
housing,
Finance
terms.
How
do
we
affect
those?
R
Well,
Alexander
is
there:
she
can
talk
about
that,
but
whenever
we
make
a
commitment
through
either
a
land
transfer,
that's
publicly
owned
property
for
the
development
Board
of
housing,
as
well
as
financing
that
we
make
available
to
developers.
There
are
terms
that
that
require
certain
performance,
both
in
development
as
well
as
the
operation,
but
Alexander.
You
probably
you're
there
and
maybe
want
to
address
that.
D
Madam,
chair,
counselor,
Lindell
Daniel's,
exactly
right,
we
have
these
incentives
written
into
our
code
and
the
New
Mexico,
affordable
housing
act
allows
a
governmental
entity
to
create
different
terms,
more
favorable
terms,
lower
interest
rates,
no
interest
rates
or
the
providers
of
affordable
housing
or
the
developers
of
affordable
housing.
D
I'm
not
unsure
if
I
may
I
also
just
wanted
to
respond
to
councilor
lindell's
earlier
comments,
because
I
think
we've
been
bringing
so
much
stuff
forward
that
it's
a
little
confusing
to
some
extent
like
how
all
of
these
different
plans
and
and
policy
documents
fit
together,
because
the
the
master
plan
is
the
regulatory
item,
so
that
that
creates
allows
us
to
do
this
work
at
Midtown.
D
This
is
a
policy
document.
So
what
this
is
saying
is
this
is
what
what
we
want
to
get
out
of
development
at
Midtown.
So
that's
kind
of
I
think
you're
struggling
with
that
balance
between
aspiration
and
detail,
because
the
real
detail
comes
with
the
financial
tools
and
the
rfps
and
the
actual
disposition
of
property,
and
that's
all
of
those
decisions
will
come
back
to
the
council.
D
So,
that's
you
know,
that's
the
point
at
which
we
understand
the
market
and
we
know
what
other
resources
we
can
leverage
to
achieve.
What
we're
setting
out
in
this
document
as
reflecting
what
the
community
wants
at
this
site.
K
What
we
are
committing
to
in
this
document
is
huge
and
I.
Don't
personally
have
enough
detail
on
a
lot
of
it.
Let's
go
to
the
next
page
page
16.
under
A1
for
inclusionary
home
ownership
units
include
affordability,
controls
or
deed
restrictions
that
impose
resale
restrictions
and
never
expire.
K
That's
a
lot
to
hold
the
council
to
that's
a
lot
to
hold
future
homeowners
to
that.
Doesn't
really
allow
people
to
gain
equity
in
their
homes,
which
is
what
we
try
to
do
with
home
ownership
or
what
we
used
to
try
to
do.
K
K
R
So
if
I
made
I,
don't
know,
there's
a
question
in
there,
but
but
the
the
we're
in
the
strategy
section
now,
so
it
does
get
a
little
bit
more
specific.
We're
not
no
longer
aspirational,
but
the
way
that
these
specifics
are
implemented
over
the
course
of
a
long
development
period
is
that
it
begins
to
say
to
the
public.
Look
we
heard
you
we.
We
know
that
long-term
affordability
is
a
priority,
and
these
these
policies,
since
they're
publicly
owned
property,
allows
the
city
to
pursue
these.
R
So
we
can
issue
an
RFP
and
ask
for
models,
see
whether
we
get
them.
It's
not
a
we're,
not
saying
we're,
requiring
it.
We're
saying
that
we're
going
to
pursue
these
things
and
we're
going
to
incorporate
them
into
objectives
within
our
fps
to
see
what
we
get
back.
The
goal
is
to
begin
stimulating
the
market
to
go
in
directions
that
we
want
to
see
one
long-term
affordability,
stronger
ways
of
community
control,
whether
it's
through
housing,
Housing
Trust,
whether
it's
models
around
affordability,
where
participation
in
community
residents
have
some
governance
structure.
R
But
we
want
to
begin
pushing
the
market
to
begin,
be
responsive
to
things
that
we
heard
that
were
important
for
communities.
These
are
practices
that
are
happening
all
over
the
country
and
we
want
to
see
more
of
this
happening
in
Santa
Fe
I
mean
this
is
this
is
exactly
what
we're
hearing
from
people
and
we
were
looking
at
models
from
around
the
country
that
can
be
implemented
in
Santa
Fe
again.
This
is
it.
R
What
we're
saying
is
that
we
are
going
to
pursue
these
things,
we're
going
to
include
them
RFP,
let's
push
the
market
to
achieve
these
objectives,
that
communities
desire
in
Santa
Fe,
but
there
are
also
policies
that
cities
around
the
country
are
pursuing
right
now
and
have
been
for
many
years.
Actually,
many
of
them
who
are
experiencing
similar
housing
crisis
to
Santa
Fe.
K
Daniel
that
felt
very
condescending
to
be
absolutely
honest
with
you,
and
just
because
other
cities
in
the
country
are
pursuing.
It
doesn't
mean
that
I
have
all
the
background
and
information
of
every
other
city
in
the
country
to
know
why
this
is
good
for
us.
D
S
they
yeah
the
affordability
controls,
indeed,
restrictions.
We
do
that
now.
So,
every
time
a
price
restricted
home
is
sold,
there's
a
lien,
that's
held
by
the
city
that
makes
up
the
difference
between
the
market
value
and
the
subsidized
price.
It
never
goes
away,
but
the
homeowner
still
is
able
to
reap
all
of
the
benefits
of
the
equity
in
any
increased
value
of
their
property
or
all
of
the
the
equity
that
they
earn
by
paying
off
their
loan.
D
So,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
this
this
amount
was
never
Theirs
to
begin
with,
because
they
got
to
buy
the
home
at
a
reduced
value,
but
we
don't
it
doesn't
dismiss.
Occasionally
there
are
some
subsidy
types
of
products
that
will
have
a
have
a
term
and
will
be
forgiven.
The
city's
original
inclusionary
zoning
program,
as
soon
as
the
primary
mortgage
was
paid
off,
the
affordability
lien
would
go
away,
but
the
other
thing
that
the
original
program
contained
and
and
when
this
was
Rewritten,
it
continued
it.
D
But
we've
since
taken
it
out
was
a
shared
Equity
requirement.
So
you
were
in
a
situation
at
the
end
of
the
day
where
that
homeowner
not
only
had
to
pay
back
the
affordability
lien,
but
then
they
had
to
pay
back
a
certain
amount
of
that
earned
Equity
or
increase
in
value
to
this
city.
The
city
got
to
say:
well,
we
subsidized
30
of
your
initial,
the
value
of
your
initial
home
purchase.
D
So
we
get
30
of
your
equity
and
we
don't
do
that
anymore
because
it
felt
like
it
was
too
punishing
and
it
felt
like
it
was
too
restrictive
and
that
we
were
actually
hampering
people's
abilities
to
move
up
in
the
market,
because
now
they
were
more
financially
secure
or
if
they
had
to
sell
for
a
for
a
financial
reason
or
a
divorce
or
an
illness,
or
something
that
they
weren't
also
hammered
and
told
at
the
closing
table.
Well,
you
owe
the
city
all
this
money,
so
we
we
did
take
that
out
of
the
requirement.
D
K
Because
I've
certainly
seen
that
happen
all
right
on
page
18.,.
K
Neighborhood
stabilization
I
spent
a
fair
amount
of
time
looking
and
reading,
and
doing
research
on
gentrification
and
neighborhood
stabilization.
K
I'm
sure
that
I
don't
know
what
they're
doing
and
all
other
parts
of
the
country,
but
I
haven't
really
seen
great
success
in
how
this
happens.
What
is
the
strategy
for
this.
R
Well
again,
I
I
apologize
if
I,
if
I,
if
I
I
came
across
condescending.
That
wasn't
my
intention.
My
intention
was
to
say
that
we
did
a
lot
of
research
and
looked
at
a
lot
of
examples
and
best
promising
practices
around
the
country
and
discuss
them
with
Community
members
during
this
process.
R
So
I
apologize
if
it
came
off
otherwise
oftentimes
a
city
when
when
development
is
happening
and
and
or
you
know,
there's
a
mass
Market
change
in
communities
that
are
affecting
low-income
houses,
particularly
are
people
who
are
feeling
displaced,
threatened
and
or
actually
being
displaced
from
their
Community
cities
will
dedicate
resources
to
creating
a
stabilization
plan,
and
it
will
do
a
lot
of
things,
so
it
will
focus
resources
for
rehabbing
existing
homes
for
seniors
who
were
feeling
the
pressures
of
displacement,
finding
empty
Parcels
to
redevelop
for
affordable
housing,
nurturing
Community
ad
Advocates
to
help
residents
and
or
tenants
who
were
experiencing
bad
landlord
practices
and
helping
them
understand
their
tenant
rights.
R
So,
anyway,
a
lot
of
strategies
come
into
place
and
then
the
cities
usually
partner
with
Community
organizations,
foundations
and
others
to
dedicate
resource
to
implement
programs
that
help
people
stay
in
their
communities
if
they
choose
to
and
and
but
always
housing
affordability
is
one
of
the
major
links
to
it.
R
So
that
is
one
that
is
the
way
that
people
are
creating
neighborhood
stabilization
plans,
and
so
we
know
that
chain
breaker,
as
well
as
the
city
worked
with
policy
link
a
few
years
ago
and
Alexander
can
talk
more
about
that
on
some
of
the
strategies
that
they
come
up
with
during
that
time,
and
we
want
to
look
at
those
and
and
prioritize
ones
that
we
may
want
to
implement
sooner
than
later,
particularly
as
Midtown
gets
developed
but
Alexander,
you
may
have
something
to
add
to
that.
H
K
One
is
talking
about
developing
an
overlay
District,
bypassing
this.
If
that's
in
an
RFP,
we
are
committing
to
that,
and
that
item
is
based
on
Beyond
recovery
policy,
recommendations
to
prevent
evictions
and
promote
housing,
security
and
Santa
Fe.
R
R
Pardon
me
to
analyze
the
viability,
legality,
economic
impact
and
advantages
not
to
implement,
but
to
analyze
it
there
may
be
no
advantage
to
it
and
if
there's
no
advantage
to
it,
it's
done
collaboratively
with
the
community
to
understand
what
the
disadvantages
and
advantages
are
and
or
what
is
the
breadth
of
that?
What
does
it
actually
mean
and
how
does
it
get
implemented
or
should
it
get
implemented
in
Santa
Fe?
So
it's
not
saying
that
it's
to
create
it,
it's
to
analyze
its
advantages
and
disadvantages
its
legality,
its
viability,
Etc.
K
Well,
there's
one
thing
in
here:
policy
wise
I
certainly
like,
and
it's
the
limiting
of
short-term
rentals.
R
The
we
want
to
make
sure
that
I
mean.
As
you
know,
the
office
of
Economic
Development
has
different
business
tools
and
strategies
for
finding
locations
for
businesses.
Rich's
office
gets
calls
every
day,
or
you
know
where.
Where
might
I
locate
my
business?
It's
at
affordable
rents,
et
cetera,
et
cetera.
R
So
we
just
want
to
make
sure
that
part
of
the
strategy
is
to
include
Midtown
and
possibly
link
them
to
developers
who
are
developing
mixed-use
buildings
with
commercial
spaces
down
below,
so
that
there's
opportunities
for
businesses
seeking
location
in
Santa
Fe
and
a
relocation
within
Santa
Fe
with
Midtown
as
an
option.
K
Go
down
a
little
bit
further
under
entrepreneurialism
number
three:
it
is
a
commitment
to
implement
the
lead
and
D.
R
It's
not
a
cost,
it's
so.
Basically
the
lead
neighborhood
development.
When
we
passed
the
Q,
the
master
plan
included
a
series
of
cross-referenced
the
lead
neighborhood
development
program
with
the
Z,
which
is
a
United
States
Green
Building
certification
program.
But
there
there's
a
credit
in
there
that
basically
says
that
food
production
is
allowed
within
a
new
master
plan
area.
R
So
we
wanted
to
be
clear
and
specific
within
the
master
plan
that
Community
gardening
is
an
allowable
use
in
certain
open
space
areas
within
within
Midtown.
So
we
implemented
it's
been
implemented
within
the
master
plan.
K
Just
an
allowable
use:
yes,
because
when
I
look
at
appendix
a
which
that's
reference
to
it
really
doesn't
give
me
very
much
information
at
all
same
for
the
next
page,
where
it
talks
about
appendix
a
neighborhood
development.
It
doesn't
give
much
information
at
all.
Let's.
H
R
This
document
references
that
the
city
will
be
pursuing
establishing
a
metropolitan
redevelopment
act.
It
doesn't
say
that
it
is
establishing
it
by
means
of
approving
this
argument,
but
that
it
is
pursuing
the
MRA.
R
This
document
says
that
we
will
be
pursuing
an
MRI.
It
doesn't
say
that
it's
been
approved
nothing
else,
but
that
we
will
be
pursuing
it
as
part
of
the
governance
structure
percent
for
the
Midtown
site.
K
On
to
page
23,
arts
and
culture
Place
making
and
place
keeping
number
two
include
a
criteria
on
solicitations
for
commercial
development
to
include
public
art
with
local
artists.
R
So
when
we
issue
rfps,
when
we
know
that
there
are
areas
within
the
RFP
for
the
possibility
for
the
relocation
of
some
of
the
existing
commercial
public
art
that
we
want
to
what's
the
word
I
want
we
want
to,
we
want
to
establish
a
a
preference,
a
point
for
relocating
some
of
the
existing
public
art
onto
sites
within
the
Redevelopment
area.
K
So
this
is
a
relocation
and
not
a
requirement
for
developers
to
have
to
provide
and
purchase
new
public
art.
Well,.
R
Where,
where
something
is
a
requirement,
we
use
the
word
requirement
yeah.
This
is
just
like
we
we're
going
to
list
it
as
a
series
of
kind
of
objectives
within
rfps
and
there's
a
lot
of
that
in
here.
We'll
see
how
we
get
you
know
if
we
get
responses,
but
we
want
to
encourage
certain
types
of
development
and
certain
types
of
things
to
get
done
within
the
RFP
process.
R
We
know
that
developers
want
to
be
competitive
with
each
other
so
to
the
extent
that
they're
going
to
go
after
some
of
these
things
that
we
established
as
preferences
or
priorities,
we'll
we'll
put
that
in
the
criteria
so
that
we
can
evaluate
the
proposals
based
on
meeting
these
different
objectives
and
criteria.
R
At
some
point,
the
at
some
point-
yes,
I
mean
someone
is
going
to
have
to
continue
doing
the
public
programming.
There's
a
public
part
there.
So,
whether
and
similar
to
the
discussion
we
even
had
tonight
about
the
uses,
our
programs
during
some
of
the
festival
times
of
the
year.
R
K
Do
you
have
any
idea
how
many
rfps
are
required
called
for
in
this
document.
R
I'm
sure
that
there's
a
lot
we're
going
to
be
issuing
a
lot
of
rfps
for
parcel
development,
there's
very
few
for
actual
Services.
R
This
is
one
of
them,
the
other
one
you
identified
previously,
which
is
for
the
neighborhood
stabilization
plan
off
the
top
of
my
head,
I'm,
not
sure,
there's
any
others
yeah,
but
the
rfps
for
land
disposition.
There
will
be
several.
K
Under
governance
and
planning
on
the
same
page,
I
think
that
every
one
of
those
deserves
its
own
rather
lengthy
conversation
reach.
One
of
those
to
have
one
paragraph
in
this
document,
I
think
tells
them
all
very,
very
short
and
doesn't
really
give
them.
The
do
I
mean
number
three
if
and
MRA
is
established,
and
it
goes
on
to
talk
about
appointing
a
commission,
and
these
things
deserve
long
conversations.
K
K
We're
committing
a
lot,
be
it
from
this
Council,
be
it
from
future
councils,
we're
committing
a
lot
and,
as
I
said,
I've,
never
seen
a
resolution
rescinded
and
once
it's
past,
we
are
committed
to
this
because
we
won't
rescind
it
there's
an
awful
lot
in
here
to
think
about.
K
R
In
the
so
when
we
dispose
of
property,
we
dispose
of
them
through
a
development
and
disposition
agreement
and
there's
a
good
position.
Agreement
talk
about
performance
both
on
schedule
for
when
the
development
will
be
completed
and
operating
the
types
of
things
that
they've
committed
to
types
of
tenancy,
that
they've
committed
to
et
cetera,
et
cetera,
so
part
of
it
will
be
that
during
their
development
process
that
they
will
have,
they
will
have
a
public
engagement
process.
R
We
heard
is
that
is
this:
it
are
we
ever
going
to
be
able
to
talk
about
development
of
individual
projects
at
Midtown,
and
that
was
a
big
Community
comment.
We
heard
and
so
again
in
the
lead,
neighborhood
development.
There
is
a
credit
there
there's
a
pro
discussion
in
the
in
in
the
program
that
talks
about
how
developers
can
engage
communities
in
their
development.
R
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
individual
projects,
the
Developers
for
individual
projects,
will
be
required
to
have
some
form
of
Engagement
process,
and
not
all
of
them
will
have
that.
But
many
of
the
projects
that
people
were
specifically
interested
in,
they
wanted
to
make
sure
that
there
was
ongoing,
or
at
least
through
the
development
process,
on
public
engagement.
It's
not
a
city
responsibility
to
be
the
developer
responsibility.
K
D
K
H
K
It
is
too
aspirational
for
me
with
way
too
many
commitments
into
the
future
that
I
have
absolutely
no
idea
of
what
we're
committing
to
financially
I.
Don't
know
how
we
can
have
an
fir
that
does
not
have
a
number
on
it.
I
I,
don't
know
how
houses?
How
do
we
have
an
fir
that
does
not
have
one
number
on
it.
I
Councilor
Lindell,
if
I
might
we
chose
to
because
there
are
so
many
unknowns
and
non-specifics.
At
this
point
we
chose
to
go
with
the
narrative
and
those
narratives
do
contain
numbers.
I
K
I
Will
endowed
members
of
the
commission?
The
big
numbers
came
from
the
work
that
strategic
economics
did
for
us
and
the
analysis.
They
did
the
presentations
that
we've
made
to
finance
committee,
and
you
know
we
had
to
correct
some
of
those
assumptions,
but
the
numbers
that
are
in
this
fir
are
based
on
the
work
that
Dena
Belzer
did
with
her
group.
K
K
How
do
I
trust
those
numbers
when
I'm
given
a
number
and
then
told
in
a
presentation?
Well,
we
know
that's,
not
the
real
number.
We
know
it'll
be
more
than
that.
That
doesn't
make
any
sense.
M
K
M
I
I'll
just
answer
and
say
that,
to
my
knowledge,
any
inconsistency
that
you
or
any
of
the
other
counselors
pointed
out
Dino
went
back
and
corrected
and
we
as
a
group,
discussed
and
went
back
and
corrected
those
and
ultimately
came
back
with
updated
presentations
that
corrected
those
errors.
K
Well,
I
would
ask
you
to
go
back
and
watch
the
meeting
about
the
infrastructure
and
we
certainly
did
not
have
a
re-reporting
on
the
infrastructure.
K
Daniel
I'm
sure
that
you
remember
that
Miss
Belzer
said
that
I
was
very
good
at
finding
her
typos.
It
wasn't
a
typo.
It
was
a
mistake.
K
K
A
Motion
a
second
further
conversation,
counselor
cassette.
G
Thank
you
so
much
Madam,
chair,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
you
know
the
understanding
of
how
this
document
is
utilized.
D
Madam,
chair,
counselor
casted,
that's
exactly
right,
because
this
plan
is
based
on
what
the
community
told
us
they
wanted
at
this
site.
So
we
were
trying
to
take
those
the
intent
and
the
the
vision
expressed
by
the
community
and
and
ask
ourselves
as
planning
professionals
and
and
housing
professionals
and
people
who
have
a
lot
of
development
experience.
Well,
what
would
the
tools
to
get
to
that
Vision
be
like
what
are
all
of
the?
What
are
all
the
possibilities
like?
D
G
You,
and,
and
so,
if
I
understand
how
this
process
essentially
starts
to
work
from
here
on
out,
we
do
know
we
have
the
personalization
of
Midtown.
We
have
this
master
plan,
we're
working
with
a
bit
more
of
a
form-based
development
process,
and
so,
as
we
start
to
go
out
to
RFP
for
development,
whether
that
be
sale,
whether
that
be
long-term
lease,
we
have
whether
that
be
looking
at
a
Land
Trust
as
those
rfps
go
out
for
each
different
component,
because
there's
residential
components,
there's
commercial,
there's,
Economic,
Development,
there's
mixed
use.
G
These
policy
goals
will
be
really
driving
the
structure
of
that
RFP.
So
at
that
time
we
might
say
hey.
We
would
like
to
do.
I,
don't
know
a
co-housing
project
and
with
that
co-housing
project
we
wanted
to
be
on
a
community
land
trust,
or
you
know,
we're
looking
at
a
variety
of
these
different
models.
Tell
us
what
you
got
give
us
what
you
would
like
to
see
and
then
basically
will
be
graded
upon
how
well
they
meet
the
the
policy
goals
that
are
really
written
out.
O
G
These
are
really
policy
goals,
as
opposed
to
policy
laws.
I
think
that
there's
a
bit
of
a
difference
there
and
how
we
speak
about
policy
a
lot
of
times
we're
making
policy
we're
developing
laws,
things
that
you
have
to
stick
to
these
kind
of
similar
to
to
a
lot
of
the
tenants
that
lay
out
in
the
general
plan.
G
I
will
go
back
to
my
original
analogy,
which
does
hold
future
councils
and
governing
bodies
to
them,
because
these
are
really
long-term
long-term
documents,
which
is
why
there
is
a
little
bit
of
this
nebulous
nature
to
it,
because
we
know
that
it
has
to
both
provide
Direction
and
understanding
of
where
we're
moved,
where,
where
we
are
moving,
but
also
be
flexible
enough
to
be
developed
over
a
long-term
process.
G
D
Madam,
chair,
counselor,
cassette,
I,
would
say
you're
you
are
definitely
correct
and
I
would
also
say
that
this
is
a
similar
approach
to
how
we
allocate
housing
funds.
So
we're
not
saying
hey.
We
want
this
many
units
at
these
prices
in
this
design
style.
You
know
what
we're
saying
is
we
want
to
serve
the
affordable
housing
needs
of
our
community
providers.
D
Developers
tell
us
what
you
can
do
and
so
then
they're
responding
to
us,
and
it
may
be
that
Homewise
wants
to
do
a
homeownership
project
and
the
Housing
Trust
wants
to
do
a
tax
credit
project,
but
they
have
to
demonstrate
that
they're
capable
of
doing
that
that
they
can
raise
leverage
funds
from
other
sources.
You
know
that
they
have
the
the
ability
to
create
that
housing
and
meet
that
need.
D
So
I
think
that's
another
thing
to
keep
in
mind
too,
is
that
the
the
rfps
themselves
will
be
very,
very
specific,
but
they'll
also
be
Performance
Based
so
that
we
might
get
so
we'll
have
choices
between
two
different
kinds
of
projects
that
meet
the
need
that
are
consistent
with
the
vision
expressed
in
this
plan
and
then
it'll
be
up
to
the
governing
body
and
the
MRA.
If
that's
the
direction,
we
go
in
to
to
make
that
decision.
G
Good
I'm
glad
I'm
understanding
this
correctly,
so
I
appreciate
that
I'll
just
add
two
more
things
very
quickly.
Given
the
the
hour
one
I
would
agree.
This
is
an
extremely
aspirational
document
and
I
have
been
cautious.
I've
said
multiple
times:
Midtown
cannot,
you
know
we
cannot
put
upon
Midtown
shoulders
solving
all
the
problems
of
the
city.
G
There
are
multiple
ways
that
those
goals
can
be
achieved
and
I
think
that
it
will
be
the
challenge
that
we
will
have
to
face,
as
well
as
future
governing
bodies
of
of
with
these
variety
of
tools
to
meet
these
policy
goals
that
we
will
have
to
navigate
that
and
see
what
the
market
will
support
at
the
time.
What
non-profits
we
have
that
can
support
that
at
the
time,
and
so
this
is
a
very
aspirational
document
and
I
don't
think
we
can
afford
to
not
be
extremely
aspirational
with
Midtown.
G
As
has
been
said,
I
remember
when
I
was
running
for
governing
body
for
for
the
seat
and
there
was
an
event
on
Midtown
and,
and
they
were
talking
about
what
a
unicorn
this
is.
You
know
to
have
64
Acres,
smack
dab
in
the
middle
of
a
city
to
redevelop
I
mean
that's
just
unheard
of,
and
so,
while
I
I
always
am
cautious.
G
It's
because
it
is
my
district
I
feel
very
protective
I've
been
down
that
you
know.
We
don't
lay
all
of
the
the
problems
of
the
city
at
midtown's
feet.
We
also
cannot
squander
the
opportunity
and
I
think
that
some
of
that
opportunity
just
cannot
be
Quantified
in
dollars.
G
I
did
want
to
also
take
an
opportunity
if,
as
best
I
can
as
the
representative
of
that
District
to
talk
about
the
unique
characteristics
of
the
neighborhoods
and
what
and
what
I
see
is
the
unique
characteristics
of
the
neighborhoods
surrounding
Midtown
that
I
want
to
ensure
or
protect
it.
A
lot
of
the
neighborhoods
surrounding
the
Midtown
development
are
older,
neighborhoods,
some
of
the
families
that
I
have
had
the
pleasure
of
meeting
who
lived
there
have
been
there
for
gosh
50
60
years.
G
Some
of
them
were
the
very
first
homeowners
of
the
house.
It
is
largely
residential.
It
is
really
a
cross-section
of
the
city,
although
around
Midtown
and
District
Four
at
least
you
have
a
really
strong
middle
class
neighborhood
working
class
neighborhood,
a
lot
of
families
Franklin
miles
Park
is
an
incredible
asset.
There
herb
Martinez
Park
is
another
one
that
we
are
really
doing.
A
lot
of
work
on
and
I
know.
Some
of
the
concerns
that
I've
heard
from
my
constituents
is
about.
G
This
displacement
is
about
making
sure
that
the
characteristic
that
is
maintained
is
that
there
are
these
families
that
have
known
each
other
for
generations
and
these
houses
that
have
been
there
and
that
they've
they've
lived
in
them
for
Generations,
while
also
welcoming
new
young
families
into
it,
and
that
has
been
one
of
my
primary
concerns
with
Midtown
is
as
excited
as
I
am
and
as
much
opportunity
as
I
see
with
this
property,
really
paying
close
attention
to
the
very,
very
real
threat
of
displacement
on
those
neighborhoods.
G
The
opportunity
that
might
occur
when
people
buy
up
properties-
and
you
know
renovate
a
home
and
sell
it
for
much
more
than
could
possibly
be
afforded
by
individuals
who
are
living
there.
Now.
To
be
quite
honest,
the
houses
are
much
more
expensive
than
a
lot
of
people
who
are
living
there
now
could
afford
at
the
time
being
so,
I
hope
that
that
kind
of
starts
to
answer
the
question
of
of
when
I'm
thinking
about
the
characteristic
of
those
neighborhoods
around
Midtown
and
what
is
really
worth
protecting.
G
That
is,
that
is
what
I'm
seeing
there
and
it
is.
You
know
one
of
the
kind
of
most
you
know.
Well,
we
see
we
see
a
lot
of
it,
but
you
know
District.
Four
is
a
pretty
dense,
dense
area,
so
you
are
really
seeing
these
middle
class
neighborhoods
these
families,
these
sense
of
communities
that
we
do
need
to
to
help
preserve
and
we
are
starting
to
lose
them
a
little
bit
and
I
I
worry
about
what
Midtown
could
do
to
that.
G
So
I
do
really
appreciate
the
focus
on
how
we
start
to
Grapple
with
this
incredible
challenge
of
anti-displacement,
because
it's
it's
not
something
that
has
been
easily
solved
in
other
parts
of
the
country
and
so
I
do
I
think
that
it's
important
that
we
really
really
struggle
with
that
and
try
to
solve
that
as
best
as
we
can
and
I
will
yield
the
floor.
Thank
you.
So
much.
H
J
J
One
more
I'm,
gonna
attack
just
kidding
I,
actually
am
gonna.
My
questions
are
really
more
around
quality
of
life
and
so
I'm
going
to
wait
till
my
other
committee
opportunities
to
talk
about
this
I.
Don't
have
any
Financial
specific
Financial
questions
for
this
committee,
so
I'll
be
moving
it
on,
so
I
can
hear
it
in
other
committee
opportunities.
Thank
you.
C
I
think
you,
madam
chair,
I
too,
had
some
concerns
about
that
Fir
and
I
do
see
the
numbers
written
into
the
into
the
narratives.
C
Is
there
any
way
those
can
be
put
into
their
General
spots,
or
is
that
too
difficult
I
know?
It
sounds
to
me,
based
on
all
the
questioning
that
you're
trying
to
build
in
some
flexibility
and
have
that
flexibility.
But
is
there
a
way
to
get
specific
on
any
of
the
numbers.
I
Excuse
me
councilor
Rivera,
members
of
the
commission
committee.
It
depends
on
a
bit.
We
have
some
funding
laid
aside
and
available
that
is
dependent
on
completing
our
audit
and
we
don't
know
exactly
when
that's
going
to
happen.
I
We
have
an
idea,
but
so
we
have
some
funding
that
is
available,
but
is
kind
of
locked
up
right
now
we're
pursuing
other
funding
at
the
legislature,
but
a
lot
of
it
just
depends
on
the
potential
grants
and
so
forth
that
Public
Works
can
pursue
and
also
part
of
it
just
depends
on
what
becomes
of
the
current
real
estate
market
and
what
kind
of
response
we
get
to
the
rfps
I,
don't
know
if
Daniel
you
have
more
to
add
to
that.
It's.
R
I
C
And
you
know
it's
not
the
typical
way
that
we
see
an
fir
I,
think
that's
the
heartache
with
it,
but
yeah
I,
appreciate
I.
Think
the
flexibility
with
this
I'm
I'm
glad
that
we're
moving
forward
I,
know,
there's
still
a
lot
of
questions
and
I
think
those
will
be
worked
out
over
time.
Again.
It's
not
the
typical
way
we
go
about
doing
business
so
I
think
that's
the
heartache
we
have,
but
I
do
appreciate
all
the
hard
work
and
the
flexibility
that
you
need
with
this
I
think
it's
a
tough
task,
so
call
ahead.
A
The
things
that
you
have
listed
in
the
narrative
I
think
part
of
the
another
reason,
and
maybe
you
can
confirm
this-
that
they're
not
listed
out
in
the
line
items
under
expenditures
and
revenue.
Is
they
don't
really
fit
there
at
the
moment,
so
the
form
in
essence?
Does
you
a
bit
of
a
disservice
because
it
wasn't
really
built
to
outline
the
financing
on
the
expenditure
side
and
the
revenue
side
of
this
particular
project?
This
is
such
a
back
to
counselor
cassett's,
Point,
unicorn
of
a
project
and
property.
D
And
Madam
chair
I
would
also
add
that
the
the
legislation
that's
being
considered
the
resolution
itself.
It's
not
as
if
we
were
bringing
forward
a
bill
that
would
imply
that
we're
going
to
fund
the
something
specific
in
the
site
where
we
would
have
an
actual
number,
so
I
think
that
is,
everyone
is
struggling
a
little
bit
with
that.
Where
it
just
feels
like
you
know,
there's
we
know
the
numbers
are
out
there.
We
don't
know
what
they
are
yet
and
I
had
a
professor
in
planning
school.
D
H
D
A
Okay
and
Mr
logson,
you
did
indicate
that
you
went
over
and
I
do
remember
the
meeting
where
councilor
Lindell
went
over
the
assumptions
that
were
being
made
I
think
made
some
observations
that
you
all
agreed
with.
You
said
you
went
back
and
did
some
revisions
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
for
us
to
see
that
presentation
in
its
revised
form.
A
We
don't
I,
don't
know
the
necessarily
that
we
need
to
have
a
presentation
but
I
think
to
have
the
handout
in
its
revised
form
would
be
helpful
to
it
and,
to
you
know,
see
how
you've
resolved
the
things
that
were
identified.
Absolutely.
I
Madam
chair
the
first
two
presentations
got
altered
and
then
or
altered.
You
know
what
I'm
trying.
I
Right
and
we're
uploaded
to
primegov
on
those
dates
as
okay.
A
And
I
guess,
then
the
other
thing
is
I
just
want
to
confirm
that
some
of
the
long
conversations
are
still
going
to
come
and
they're
going
to
come
in
at
I.
Think
maybe
it
was
Council
cassid
who
said
that,
as
we
employ
the
our
tools
for
implementing
this
Vision,
this
aspirational
ideas
for
what
we
can
do
with
this
unicorn
of
a
property
that
has
this
incredible
number
of
opportunities
for
us.
A
There
are
going
to
still
be
very
many
long
conversations,
still
many
long
decisions,
still
solid
decisions
with
more
detail,
and
you
know
committing
Us
in
in
real
Financial
ways
as
as
we
move
along.
So
though
those
are
kind
of
undercoming
attractions.
This
isn't
we're
just
doing
this
and
we'll
we
won't
see
you
guys
for
a
while
you're
going
to
be
back
and
back
and
back
and
we're
going
to
be
talking
a
lot
about
this
going
forward.
Absolutely
okay.
We
have
a
motion
in
a
second
councilor
Lindell.
K
K
Well,
let's
even
start
before
that
the
near-term
revenue
sources,
we
don't
know
about
the
GRT
Bond,
the
land
swap
Revenue
I,
don't
know
that
we're
sure
of
that
land
sales.
We
probably
will
have
legislative
Appropriations,
I,
don't
know
if
those
are
existing
or
if
that's
aspirational,
Midtown
land
sales
up
to
10
million
Federal
infrastructure
funds.
I,
don't
know
that
those
have
been
committed
to
us.
Have
they
do.
We
have
a
commitment
for
10
million
from
the
feds
for
infrastructure.
I
10
anyhow
I
believe
we
do
have
some
one
or
two
million
that
is
available,
but
I
would
need
to
go
back.
K
D
Madam,
chair,
councilor,
lindau
I
mean
I,
really
appreciate
you
bringing
up
these
points.
This
information
in
here
was
developed
through
the
Strategic
economics
analysis,
so
they
were
looking
at
all
of
the
possibilities
out
there
and
then
how
much
we
would
need
and
what
was
likely
to
come
from
these
different
sources.
So
you're,
absolutely
right,
there's
not
a
guarantee
here,
but
it's
also.
This
is
where
this
amount
is
likely
to
come
from.
J
I
Brl
that
would
include,
for
instance,
operational
expenses
involved
in
maintaining
a
new
plasma
in
maintaining
whatever
part.
I
J
I
So
yeah
those
are
and
they're
not
expected
to
be
incurred
for
at
least
three
fiscal
years,
because
you
know
we're
not
going
out
there
and
laying
down
a
plaza
first
thing.
You
know
we,
we
have
larger
fish
to
fry
in
terms
of
roads
and
things
like
that
to
figure
out.
J
I
think
there's
there
are
some
that
we
do
know,
though,
for
expenditures
like
any
contract
contractuals
work
that
we
anticipate
in
fiscal
year.
23
I
mean
I,
think
you
all
know,
or
at
least
have
a
an
idea
about.
J
If
there's
other
contracts,
you
know,
people
that
are
on
contract
now
are
going
to
continue
working
with
us
in
this
next
year.
So
that
would
be
something
we
could.
Probably
we
could
actually
add.
The
other
thing
is
I,
don't
know
what
that
looks
like,
but
when
we
get
to
demolition,
I,
don't
know
at
what
point
that
would
be,
but
that
is
a
a
cost
and
expenditure
that
I
don't
know.
If
we
can
guess
now,
because
I
don't
know
when
that
would
happen,
do
you
have
a
idea
about
demolition.
D
Madam,
chair,
Council,
Villarreal,
I,
don't
I
know
it's
phased,
it's
planned
in
phases.
Daniel,
do
you
know
if
the
demolition
of
the
of
everything
that's
going
to
be
torn
down?
It
is
phased
over
time
right.
It.
R
Is
yeah
I
mean
we
had
a
long
meeting
this
morning
on
the
infrastructure
and
developing
an
infrastructure
plan
actually,
and
it
includes
the
demolition
we
wanted
to
phase
it
based
on
cash
flow,
and
the
cash
flow
is
also
dependent
on
when
we're
able
to
unlock
some
of
the
state
funds
that
are
coming
to
the
city
for
the
Redevelopment
of
Midtown.
So
we
don't
have
exact
dates,
but
we
anticipate
them
within
the
next
year
or
two.
R
We
will
demolish
the
buildings
that
are
slated
for
demolition
as
well
as
begin
the
infrastructure
development,
but
again
it's
dependent
on
the
release
of
those
funds
to
the
city.
The
the
demolition
of
the
buildings
will
also
help
on
reducing
operating
expenses.
There
are
operating
expenses
to
maintaining
an
empty
building,
so
we
want
to
move
as
early
as
possible
on
that
as
well,
but.
J
It
sounds
like
we
probably
wouldn't
be
able
to
guess
the
demolition
costs
for,
but
I
guess
I'm
thinking
that
you
all
know
if
there's
a
staff,
the
contracts
that
are
going
to
be
moving
forward
this
year.
That
could
be
added
in
this
at
least
whether
it's
in
the
column
or
not.
It
probably
should
be
in
the
The
Narrative
so
that
we
know
as
well.
That's
like
one
thing
to
also
anticipate
for
our
costs
are.
H
D
Chair
counselor,
one
thing
that
occurs
to
me
is
that
maybe
we
look
at
the
expenses
in
terms
of
the
implementation
of
this
policy
plan
and
to
your
point
like
that,
does
involve
contracts
with
Specialists
to
get
us
to
a
point
where
we
can
actually
partialize
the
land
and
and
dispose
of
it
because
I
think
these
these
infrastructure
costs
they're
not
actually
related
to
the
implementation
of
policy,
they're
related
to
the
the
physical
realization
of
the
development
that
reflects
the
policy.
So
maybe
maybe
that's
a.
A
H
A
All
right
we
are
on
to
our
last
item
of
the
night
item.
L
h,
I
j
k.
L,
let's
see
here-
oh
my
goodness,
I,
don't
think
I'm
gonna
read
all
of
this,
but
basically
counselor
Garcia
is
here
with
us.
He's
one
of
the
sponsors,
an
ordinance
relating
to
electric
bicycles,
doing
a
whole
variety
of
things
and
counselor
Lindell.
You
pulled
this
item.
I
did.
K
Thank
you,
I
I
have
a
couple
of
concerns
about
this
I
think.
What's
here
is
mostly
fine,
but
I
think
that
we're
missing
some
things
and
one
thing
is
we
don't
address
electric
scooters,
we
don't
address,
and-
and
these
are,
these
are
types
of
Co
transportation
that
you
know
at
best.
K
Interestingly
enough
I
see
people
jump
off
the
Rail
Runner
with
an
electric
unicycle
which
doesn't
have
a
seat,
but
you
stand
on
it
and
I
see
them
zipping
to
work
from
the
The,
Rail,
Runner
and
I
understand,
even
though
it's
clear
I'm
not
up
on
what
happens
in
most
cities
that
they're
becoming
quite
a
popular
mode
of
transportation,
and
that
we
probably
need
to
address
these.
If
we're
working
on
this
ordinance,
because
I
think
that
it's
going
to
come
up,
the
only
thing
that
I
saw
was
I.
I.
K
The
one
thing
I
did
see
that
I'm
not
sure
how
it
gets
fixed
or
what?
What
what's
to
be
done
about
it
on
the
top
of
page
four,
it
says
under
16
can't
operate
a
class
3.,
but
under
16
can
operate
a
class
one
or
two
in
a
bike
lane,
which
is
super
dangerous,
because
they're
going
so
slow,
I
I.
K
Don't
think
that
that's
necessarily
our
best
trade-off
and
I,
don't
know
what
it
needs
to
be
fixed,
but
I,
don't
think
that
it's
airing
on
the
side
of
safety
to
put
someone
under
16
in
a
bike
lane
on
on
a
bike
that
has
a
maximum
speed
of
15
out
in
traffic.
So
those
are
my
concerns
with
this
I'm,
also
not
sure
about
any
of
those
four
other
types
of
transportation.
K
That
I
talked
about
how
those
are
allowed
and
with
their
speed
on
bike
trail
on
on
our
trail
system,
but
I
think
if,
if
we're
trying
to
make
this
ordinance
into
modern
times
and
safer,
those
are
probably
some
things
that
need
to
be
addressed.
K
So
those
are
just
my
comments
on
it
because
the
bike
speed
thing
with
the
16
year
old,
that
that
is
a
concern
for
me:
I,
don't
think
that's
a
good
trade-off
and
the
other
four
modes
of
transportation,
they're
here
and
they're
only
going
to
get
bigger,
so
we
probably
need
to
address
those
at
the
same
time
we're
doing
this.
Thank
you,
chair.
S
S
I
will
let
the
CTS
Assistant
Attorney
to
comment
or
or
respond
to
the
first,
a
comment
that
there
are
mode
of
transportation
that
are
missing
in
this
in
this
bill.
But
this
the
your
comment
on
the
that
16
year
old,
cannot
write
a
class
3
e-bike
class
3E
buy
can
go
up
to
28
mph
compared
to
conventional
or
manually
manual
bicycle
or
this
class
2
bicycle,
which
is
only
20
mph,
and
this
bill
doesn't
refer
to
only
refers
to
our
streets
and
sidewalks.
S
It
doesn't
refer
to
bicycling
on
trail
or
using
an
e-bike
on
trails
and
there
there
are
now
studies
that
that's
that's
coming
out
that
it's
very
dangerous
for
underage
to
ride
a
class
3
e-bike
one
one
example
is
the
fatal
accident
that
happened
in
New
York
I'm,
not
expert
on
bicycling,
especially
riding
an
e-bike.
So
what
bpac
members
are
saying
is
it's
very
different
to
write,
class
3
e-bike,
and
can
you
please
add
something.
T
One
one
minor
point
of
clarification:
there's
nothing
specific
in
the
bill
regarding
Trails
or
bike
paths,
because
these
the
electronic
bicycles
are
defined
out
of
being
Motor
Vehicles.
It
clarifies
that
for
the
ones
that
are
considered
electronic.
T
Is
to
say,
with
that
speed,
cap
of
28
miles
per
hour,
I'm
sorry
I
thought
I
was
close
enough.
Is
that
better,
okay,
Madam
chairman
counselor,
the
the
definitions,
do
affect
the
the
rules
elsewhere
in
the
city
code
about
what
is
permissible
to
ride
on
city
trails
and
on
City
bike
paths
by
defining
the
electronic
electric
bicycles,
rather
not
electronic
out
of
Motor
Vehicles.
T
You
know
the
result
is
that
they
are
permitted
clearly
permitted
on
bike
paths
and
on
the
city
trails
where
bicycling
is
so
at
one
point
of
clarification,
the
I
would
say
it's
not
the
role
of
the
city
attorney's
office
to
advise
on
policy.
T
The
the
limitation
for
the
16
year
olds
came
to
our
office
in
the
draft
bill
that
came
from
bpac.
So
that
is
the.
P
T
One
point
in
an
article
circulated
about
death
of
a
younger
teenager,
I,
think
14
or
15.
on
an
e-bike.
So
there.
T
That
there
was
an
effort
to
address
also
with
regards
to
the
other
modes
of
transportation.
I,
don't
think
the
intent
is
so
much
to
exclude
them
or
or
intentionally
leave
them
in
a
limbo
as
to
just
affirmatively
address
the
status
of
e-bikes,
because
at
least
one
of
these
classes,
the
class
twos
can
be
operated
without
pedaling,
which
means
under
current
definitions.
It
is
a
motor
vehicle.
T
They
are
almost
certainly
being
ridden
on
City
bike
paths
and-
and
you
know
so,
there's-
the
intent
here
was
to
clarify
the
role
and
operation
of
e-bikes,
specifically
rather
than
a
sort
of
larger
Point
aimed
at
addressing
you
know,
all
the
manager,
all
the
modes
of
electronic
Transportation
or
electric
transportation.
T
S
You
also
mayor,
please
add
that
there's
a
need
to
to
focus
our
effort
on
e-bikes
compared
to
other
modes
of
transportation
like
electric
scooters,
because
the
sfmpo
estimated
that
in
Prior
pandemic
10
percent
of
bicycles
in
Santa
Fe,
where
only
10
percent,
but
in
2020
22.
The
estimate
is
now
30
to
40
percent,
and
so
the
trend
is
going
up.
K
Lindell
I
just
think
that,
if
we're
doing
this
to
not
Define
these
and
put
these
in
the
ordinance
just
it
would
make
a
lot
of
sense
to
me
to
do
that
and
not
addressing
bike.
Speed
on
Trails
I
think
that
most
of
us
have
had
numerous
constituent
calls
or
certainly
I,
have
about
people
riding
bikes
on
Trails
way
too
fast
and
folks.
Wanting
speed
limit
signs
on
the
Trails.
K
I
still,
don't
think
that
the
trade-off
on
last
three
28
mile
per
hour
with
a
16
year
old
and
putting
them
out
on
a
bike
lane
15
miles
an
hour
is
a
good
safety
trade-off.
I
I
I,
don't
believe
that
that's
good
sense,
but
those
are
just
my
opinions
on
it
as
it
stands.
I
won't
support
it,
but
because
I'd
like
to
see
it
go
further.
T
Okay,
I'm
sure,
there's
a
yes
procedural
matter.
I'd
like
to
raise
romela
noticed
before
the
hearing
on
this
bill
started
that
the
title
still
reads
on
line
15
or
page
one,
that
it
is
defining
electric
bicycles
as.
O
T
Being
Vehicles
when,
in
fact,
an
amendment
in
the
quality
of
life
committee
changed
that
and
because
that
title
was
published
with
the
agenda
for
this
meeting
I'm
concerned
that
there
may
be
an
open
meeting,
an
open
meetings,
act
issue
when
we're
impacted
part
of
the
bill.
Doing
the
opposite
of
what
the
title
says.
So
I'd
recommend
an
amendment
to
change,
line
15
tonight
and
then
yeah.
A
We're
not
going
to
do
that
tonight.
Sorry,
because
we
have
to
have
it
drafted
and
we
don't
have
anybody
here
to
draft
it.
G
Believe
there's
been
a
noticing
issue
with
this
am
I
correct,
I
got
I,
got
cc'd
on
a
chain
today
discussing
issues
with
noticing,
because
there
was
some
confusion
around
what
happened
in
quality
of
life
and
so
I.
Don't
believe
that
this
bill
has
been
noticed
yet
is
that
am
I
is
that
was
that
my
understanding
from
that
email
that
I
came
in
halfway
through
the
conversation
yeah.
T
I'm
Madam,
chair,
counselor,
I'm,
sorry
I,
don't
think
I
was
included
on
that
chain.
It
was
mentioned
to
me
before
the
meeting,
but
I
haven't
seen.
It
I
think
that
there
there's
at
least
with
the
the
title
being
incorrect,
there's
a
possibility
of
an
error
with
noticing.
A
We
we
I'm
just
going
to
comment.
We
have
got
to
figure
this
out.
This
is
now
the
number
what
Bill,
where
we
have
had
a
problem
with
the
title
change
and
the
noticing-
and
this
is
getting
ridiculous-
we've
got
a
fix
this,
so
that's
just
an
aside.
I,
don't
know
what
we
do
about
what's
happening
here
tonight.
It
is
on
the
agenda.
We
do.
A
T
A
T
Think
it
was
overlooked
that
the
title
needed
to
change
as
well.
H
G
A
G
Question,
though,
so,
if
this
is,
if
this
has
been
noticed,
it
has
been
noticed
incorrectly.
So
now
it
does
need
to
something
needs
to
happen,
for
it
to
be
re-noticed.
So
am
I
correct
that
the
Amendments
that
we
passed
with
it
at
quality
of
life
should
have
triggered
the
change
in
the
caption.
It
just
didn't
happen
so
now
it
will
have
to
we'll
have
to
make
sure
that
it
is
noticed
correctly
with
the
correct
caption,
which
means
we're,
probably
not
hearing
it
until
the
20,
the
governing
body
meeting
on
the
25th.
T
A
Yeah,
that's
why
passing
it
without
recommendations?
Probably
the
easiest
thing
to
do.
I
I,
don't
know
that
we
can't
not
act
on.
It
is
the
problem
and
I
don't
want
to
hold
it
because
then
we'll
yes,
counselor,
Garcia,
you're
a
co-sponsor
or
a
main
sponsor
or
the
sponsor.
With
the
co-sponsor
on
the
committee.
P
Given
that
it
seems
like
it's
not
ready
to
be
heard
on
the
11th
and
it's
more
than
likely
to
be
heard
on
the
23rd
I
guess,
my
question
revolves
around
the
noticing
of
the
legislation
and
having
a
correct
title.
Can
it
be
noticed
with
the
incorrect
title,
because
if
it
can't,
we
can
postpone
a
decision,
bring
it
back
to
this
committee
with
the
amendment
to
correct
the
title,
then
send
it
to
governing
body.
G
A
B
A
Okay,
that
motion
passes.
Thank
you
for
being
here.
We
have
no
discussion
items.
We
do
not
have
an
executive
session
Matters
from
staff.