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C
It
is,
according
to
my
watch,
502
pm,
we'll
call
the
meeting
to
order.
I
know
councillor
lee
garcia
is
on
his
way,
there's
some
heavy
traffic
and
delays,
but
I
know
he's
coming,
but
with
the
quorum.
Why
don't
we
get
started
with
the
pledge
of
allegiance
led
by
councilwoman
via
real
salute
to
the
new
mexico
flag
led
by
councilor,
michael
garcia,
and
then
council
rivera
will
lead
us
in
invocation
and
remembrances.
So
please.
B
D
Heavenly
father,
we
thank
you
for
bringing
us
here
this
evening.
We
thank
you
for
putting
us
in
these
positions
throughout
the
city.
We
know
that
we're
here
because
of
you,
and
we
thank
you
for
that.
We
know
that
we
have
great
work
to
do
in
ensuring
that
we
do
the
public's
best
work,
that
we
have
their
interests
in
mind
and
that
we
can
do
so
with
wisdom
and
respect
and
that
we
just
do
some
quick
work
tonight
in
your
name,
we
pray
yeah.
B
C
I
want
to
remember
and
then,
of
course,
the
victims
of
9
11,
who
we
remembered
over
the
weekend
fire
station
one
in
our
annual
remembrance
of
that
tragic
day,
but
more
locally
michael.
We
lost
michael
and
pereira
in
a
tragic
bicycling
accident.
She
was
doing
what
she
always
does,
which
is
to
help
others
and
raise
money
and
was
taken
almost
too
soon.
She
was
in
the
inaugural
class
of
the
40
under
40
top
business
leaders
recognized
as
santa
fe
hispanic
chamber.
C
She
was
a
leader
in
the
realtors.
She
was
a
leader
in
our
community
and
leaves
a
young
family
and
a
lot
of
people
who
loved
her
I'd,
also
like
to
mention
riva
yaris,
who
was
such
a
great
part
of
our
community
for
such
a
long
number
of
years
as
a
gallery
owner
a
champion
of
many
great
artists
knew
them.
Personally,
her
son
dennis
carries
on
that
tradition
and
manuel
garcia.
Who's.
Almost
a
son
was
also
devoted
to
riva
and
they
deserve.
B
C
E
C
E
I'd
also
like
to
recognize
the
brilliance
of
michael
and
pettya,
and
those
of
us
that
were
salseras
and
salceros
really
got
to
know
her
in
the
dancing
world
and
that's
how
I
knew
her
and
just
really
broken-hearted
for
this
loss
in
our
community
and
all
the
contributions
that
will
continue
to
show
in
our
community,
not
just
the
past,
but
they'll
still
show
interpretation
what
she's
done
for
our
community
and
just
sending
a
lot
of
blessings
and
prayers
for
her
family
and
friends.
Thank
you.
C
B
C
B
F
F
Yep
councillor
michael
garcia,.
C
C
G
Mayor
wherever
counselors
that's
correct,
we
do
need
to
take
the
h-board
appeal
off
the
agenda.
We
don't
know
if
it
will
be
rescheduled,
we're
working
that
out
with
the
appellant,
but
it
will
not
be
heard
tonight.
C
We
have
a
motion
to
approve
the
agenda
as
amended,
and
we
have
a
second
that
we
please
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
opposed
motion
carries
consent.
Is
there
a
motion
to
approve
the
consent
agenda.
C
Second,
we
have
a
motion
and
we
have
a
second
to
approve
the
consent
agenda.
Madam
clerk,
can
you
please
call
the
role
on
the
consent
agenda.
B
C
Thank
you
this
time,
then
madame
clerk
will
turn
to
item
eight
on
the
agenda,
which
is
a
series
of
presentations
and
we'll
start
with
eight
a
please.
F
B
I
A
B
B
B
C
C
F
B
F
Yeah
item
8b
is
a
fiscal
year.
21
audit
update
it's
presented
by
emily
oster
our
finance
director
and
ricky
behrano,
our
accounting
officer.
B
O
B
P
Mayor
members
of
the
council,
I
just
wanted
to
update
you
all
that
we
did
meet
with
pinyon
ventures
to
discuss
the
report.
We
will
be
working
on
some
formatting
updates
so
that
the
report
is
more
user-friendly
for
not
only
internal
but
also
external,
because
we
do
want
to
make
sure
that
in
that
report,
we'd
like
to
showcase
a
roadmap
that
we've
been
on
and
where
we're
going.
P
F
B
N
All
right,
well,
it's
nice
to
be
back
mayor
governing
body.
Hope
you
guys
are
doing
good
everyone's
looking
very
sharp
tonight,
very
cool,
I'm
joe
abeyta,
I'm
a
project
manager
in
the
project
management
office
at
the
it
department
and
I'm
here
to
talk
to
you
about
give
you
a
report
on
what
we've
been
doing:
cyber
security
wise
at
the
office
and
for
the
city
of
santa
fe.
Of
course,
as
you
know,
yes,
sir.
C
N
N
Is
our
I.t
department?
Would
you
guys
all
like
to
maybe
stand
up
and
introduce
yourself
since
you
know
we're
the
audience,
so
we
can.
Let
them
know
who
we
are
go
ahead,
come.
B
B
N
And
it's
it's
it's!
It's
a
joy.
N
N
So
we've
all
seen
that,
and
so
what
I'm
here
to
show
you
today
is
the
steps
that
we've
taken
at
the
office
at
the
city
to
be
proactive
in
case,
something
like
that
happens
and
to
stop
it
possibly
from
happening
with
us
by
taking
measures
to
you
know
to
not
allow
the
cyber
attacks
to
come
in.
N
So,
let's
let
me
move
on
here.
N
There
you
go
so
I
you
know.
I
talked
about
recent
events.
Some
stuff-
that's
happened
in
our
own
backyard
here
in
the
state
aps,
was
hit
with
a
cyber
attack.
It's
really
not
a
good
practice
to
go
out
and
give
the
details
of
the
cyber
attack
or
how
much
you
paid
in
ransomware.
I'm
not
saying
that
it
happened
if
they,
but
they
were
attacked,
not
a
lot
of
details,
but
aps
that
was
huge.
Another
municipality
that
was
hit
was
bernalillo
county.
N
What
we
found
you
know
there
was
closures
of
municipal
buildings,
closed
jails
on
and
put
them
in
lockdown
the
news
reported
there
was
191
thousand
dollars
in
laptop
damage
that
they
had
to
take
care
of,
and
the
journal
also
reported
that
they
took
out
a
two
million
dollar
policy
to
cover
the
attack.
N
So
what
we've
done
the
city
is,
we
did
some
testing.
We
do
a
penetration
test,
it's
a
standard
process
to
maintain
cyber
security.
Last
test
we
did,
it
was
in
2021,
we
met
the
requirements
and
but
the
recommendation
was
to
focus
on
more
cyber
security
enhancements
here
in
the
city.
N
So,
as
a
result
of
that,
we
came
to
you
for
at
mid
mid-year,
asking
you
for
more
funding
and
for
what
we
needed
in
order
to
do
this.
To
take
care
of
this,
to,
you
know
improve
our
cyber
security,
so
what
we
did
was
we
had
proposed
to
you
new
positions,
we're
gonna
talk
about
these
two
in
detail.
N
These
three
points
opposed
to
new
positions
for
our
cyber
security
team,
implementing
the
planning,
multi-factor,
authentication
and
14
character,
passphrase
implementation
and
we'll
talk
about
that
too,
as
well:
an
implementation
of
monitoring
software,
okay.
So
those
are
the
three
things
we're
going
to
talk
about,
and
then
we
got
some
other
stuff
that
we
got
in
the
hopper
that
I
want.
We
want
to
go
over
with
you,
so
just
just
hold.
N
About
this
stuff,
okay,
so
our
governing
body,
you
guys
approved
two
new
positions
in
our
cyber
security
at
mid-year,
our
cyber
security
team
you've
met
them.
Dr
bradley
purdy
he's
our
chief
information
security
officer.
Also,
a
great
mentor
taught
me
a
lot
about
cyber
security.
He
always
has
an
open
door.
When
I
go
into
his
office,
he
says
joe.
This
is
how
it's
done.
It's
not
like
this.
N
N
Cameron
he's
our
other
information
security
officer.
He
was
promoted
from
within
the
department,
he's
former
senior
lead
and
user
support
technician
in
the
it
department,
so
we
brought
he
was
promoted
from
within,
and
he
knows
it's
always
great
to
have
that
background
of
knowing
the
city,
politics
and
the
way
the
city
moves
and
who's
who
and
where
the
buildings
are
right.
N
That's
always
a
plus
here
in
the
city
and
then
we
currently
have
a
vacant,
a
full-time
eu
s,
security,
technician
position
and
we're
currently
in
the
process
of
getting
filled
for
the
cyber
security
team.
So
that's
our
cyber
security
team,
that's
what
we
did
with
those
two
new
positions
that
you
have
approved
for
us:
okay.
So,
let's
move
on
to
the
second,
but
as
far
as
cyber
security
team
to
enhance
the
cyber
security
for
the
city,
that's
what
we've
done
as
far
as
the
team
goes
for
personnel
next,
multi-factor,
authentication
and
passphrase.
N
So
let
me
tell
you
what
it
is
in
case
hold
on.
I
gotta
get
my
prop
out.
I
want
to
make
sure
I
get
my
props
here.
Okay,
what
is
multi-factor
authentication?
It's
when
you
log
into
your
city
account,
and
now
you
have
a
fob
bob.
You
guys
all
got
this
bob
right.
It
generates
a
number
for
you
to
access
your
city,
account
that
verifies
who
you
are.
You
don't
have
one
country
you
got
to
get
him
one.
N
N
Get
you
guys
one
all
right,
okay!
Well,
I
stand
corrected,
but
there's
350
fobs
that
have
been
issued
in
the
city
of
santa
fe,
okay
and
what
what
it
is
for
the
folks
that
don't
have
it
when
you're
logging
in
virtually
vpn
you're
logging
in
remotely
to
your
outlook
365
in
most
cases,
for
all
you
that
log
into
your
your
365..
N
pretty
cool
it's
for
most
for
the
most
part,
it's
like
from
a
minute
at
most
to
about
30
seconds.
Depending
on
how
much
classified
information
you
have
on
your
emails,
I'm
kidding,
I
joke
okay,
what
is
14
character,
passphrase?
Well,
the
password
to
your
it's
a
password
to
your
city.
Account
now
is
requiring
you
to
have
14
characters,
and
this
address
is
a
an
audit
recommendation
that
we
need
to
do
that.
So
what
it
is
is
it's
like
you
would
put.
N
Instead
of
putting
you
know,
frankfurter
66,
as
your
password,
you
can
now
put
like
graeter's
blackberry,
raspberry
chocolate
chip,
ice
cream
is
my
favorite
ice
cream
or
I
prefer
the
yogurt
bowl
over
huevos
rancheros
or
the
big
lebowski.
Is
my
favorite
movie,
so
things
like
that
right
things
that
you
love
that
you
tend
you
can
make
a
passphrase
of
you
can
put
in
there
as
your
pass
race.
N
So
so
so
that's
happening
right
now
that
has
become-
and
I
already
mentioned,
that
the
350
fobs
have
been
issued
to
the
city
users,
but
in
my
presentation,
also
14
character,
passphrase
as
of
september.
1St,
now
is
the
standard
for
all
city
accounts.
N
So
now,
when
the
notification
comes
up,
saying
your
password's
expired,
you
gotta
do
something
like
this.
Training
has
been
provided
by
cyber
security,
us
teams
to
city
staff
on
creating
the
14
character.
Password
in
case
you
don't
know
what
you
love.
So
we
can
help
you
figure
that
out
with
the
14
character,
password
all
right,
that's
another
step
here.
That
was
our
second
step
that
we
took
that
we
took
in
the
original
points
that
I
was
making.
N
As
far
as
improving
cyber
security
for
the
city
of
santa
fe,
all
right
next
arctic
woof
software,
what
is
article
of
software
and
counselor
lindell?
I
know
that
you
were
heavily
involved
in.
You
know,
asking
questions
about
it.
I
remember
when
we
were
going
through
it
so
you're
going
to
love
this.
I
know
you
are
so
what
is
serv?
What
services
does
article
software
provide?
N
It's
a
security
monitoring
service
that
analyzes
data
traffic
and
specific
city
of
santa
fe
at
specific
santa
fe
city
of
santa
fe
locations,
it
analyzes
and
logs
events
and
provides
scans
of
our
city
network.
The
status
of
implementation
is
complete.
Monitoring
devices
have
been
installed
successfully
at
designated
city
locations.
N
Scanning
agents
were
installed
throughout
entire
city
networks
and
total
time
frame
of
the
project
took
us
two
months
to
implement
that's
pretty
good
ride
for
city
considering.
I
know
I've
worked
for
the
city
now
for
over
20
years,
when
you
can
start
a
project
and
finish
it
in
two
months.
That's
a
big
deal
so
good
job,
and
it
was
a
lot
of
these
guys
here
that
really
they
worked
on
weekends
and
nights
to
make
sure
that
it
happened
and
troubleshooted
and
so
just
want
to
give
them
kudos.
N
So
it
makes
my
job
easier
as
a
project
manager
right.
So
that's,
that's
the
the
third
and
the
last
thing
that
we
had
come
to
you
for
at
mid-year.
Now
I
want
to
get
into
the
next
steps
as
far
as
what
we're
looking
at,
what's
in
the
hopper
of
what
we're
doing
to
continue
to
improve
cyber
security
in
the
city
of
santa
fe,
so
this
is
pretty
awesome
here.
This
is
our
lumen
adaptive
network
security
and
lumen
is
centurylink.
N
N
So
ans
is
streamlines
our
threat
management
with
network
firewall
security
delivered
from
the
cloud.
It's
a
cloud-based
solution
that
streamlines
threat
management
by
enabling
consistent
policy
deployment,
monitoring
event,
management
across
hybrid
security
environments,
all
city
traffic
flows
through
it.
First
security
internet
connectivity
for
big
business
agility
and
creates
redundancy.
N
Okay,
I'm
gonna
get
to
the
slides,
but
let
me
just
kind
of
put
it
in
obey
the
layman's
terms
of
what
we're
getting
with
this
thing,
we're
getting
an
advanced
firewall
security,
redundancy
and
resilience
in
our
internet
connection.
N
N
And
stuff
like
that,
cyber
attacks
usually
happen
at
night
when
we're
asleep,
so
they
can
get
the
most
out
of
the
attack
right
for
us
when
we
show
up
like
it's
seven
or
eight
o'clock
in
the
morning.
They'll
attack
us
early
morning
and
late
evening,
so
ans
will
give
us
24
7
coverage,
now
we're
in
the
process
of
doing
this.
This
is
what's
gonna,
we're
gonna
get
once
we
implement
this
into
our
city
network.
Okay.
This
is
these.
N
Are
the
next
steps
so
currently,
this
is
how
our
this
is,
how
our
our
internet
network
looks.
Our
system
looks,
we
have
our
city
site
here,
as
you
can
see,
and
we
currently
have
a
connection,
a
tech,
a
one
gigabyte,
fiber
connection
to
new
mexico.
Do
it,
which
is
located
here
in
santa
fe,
and
then
that
connection
is
and
then
we
have
a
connection,
a
redundant
connection
to
the
albuquerque
data
center.
Okay,
so
we
see
that
there.
Now
you
see
these
two
clouds
up
above
here
the
first
cloud
it
represents.
N
Oh
sir,
you
just
popped
up.
I
don't
know
why
it's
weird!
This
first
cloud
represents
public
access,
the
public,
the
internet,
that
we
we
give
to
the
public.
They
allow
them
to
access
the
internet
for
free,
like
at
the
libraries.
P
B
N
You
know
the
the
free
stuff,
or
even
that
midtown,
to
write
the
the
promise.
What
was
it
called
again
there?
I
promised
santa
fe
or
something
all
together,
santa
fe.
Sorry
about
that.
Sorry
all
right,
and
then
this
this
this
cloud
over
here
over
the
albuquerque
data
center
that
represents
I'll
tell
you
what
it
represents.
N
It
represents
all
the
data
that
we
get
from
microsoft,
365
access,
remote
access,
users
like
vpn
users,
chronos
tyler
and
computer,
aided
dispatch.
So
that's
what
that
cloud.
There
represents
okay.
So
that's
our
current
system.
B
N
After
watch
this,
we
have
one
cloud
now:
that's
administering
both
those
clouds
and
it's
now
going
through
this
advanced
firewall
security,
one
of
the
best
that
anyone
has
to
offer
and
there's
one
in
phoenix
and
there's
one
in
las
vegas.
So
if
the
one
in
vegas
goes
down,
you
go
to
the
one
in
phoenix,
the
phoenix
one
goes
down
and
we
go
to
the
one
in
vegas.
N
D
N
N
So
so
what
that
does
is
what
that
does.
The
result
of
that
is.
We
have
a
robust
firewall
system
or
our
internet
connection,
which
is
going
to
provide
us
in
a
24
7
monitoring
system.
That's
going
to
help
us
defend
ourselves
against
cyber
security
attacks,
okay,
so
that
is
lumen
and
that
will
be
happening
hopefully
in
the
first
part
of
next
year,
like
I
was
on
apple
right
now,
saying
your
iphone
will
be
right
all
right.
N
So
our
next
thing,
that's
in
the
hopper
that
we're
working
on
is
our
cyber
security
playbook
and
what
that'll
do
is
that'll
tell
us
what
to
do
if
the
city
is
attacked,
what
to
do
if
the
city
responds,
how
does
the
city
respond
to
a
cyber
attack?
A
step-by-step
guide,
it's
in
we're
in
the
process
of
developing
a
playbook,
that's
specific
to
today's
threats.
N
So
we're
working
on
that
and
we're
looking
on
getting
that
one
done
in
the
first
part
of
next
year
as
well
and
then
last
but
not
least,
cyber
attack
exercise
you're
gonna
we're
gonna
actually
have
an
exercise.
That's
gonna
be
happening
also
in
the
first
part
of
next
year
we're
gonna
go
through
kind
of
a
dungeons
and
dragons
type
of
scenarios.
B
N
Cyber
security,
like
a
you
know,
an
exercise
that'll
show
us
how
we
can
react
and
how
we
would
react
to
a
cyber
attack
here
in
the
city
of
center,
the
organization,
not
the
actual
city,
okay,
all
right.
In
closing
sorry,
I
think
I
woke
up
a
counselor,
a
cassette
there.
I
know
I'm
just
kidding.
I
think
I
scared,
I
think
I
scared
you.
I
think
that's
what
it
was
I'll
wake
you
up,
but
scared
you
with
my
robust
voice.
Anyway,
our
network
has
never
been
more
secure.
N
The
city
is
the
first
municipality
in
the
state
to
implement
that
will
implement
ans,
and
I
want
to
thank
you
guys
for
all
your
support.
It's
been
great,
being
back,
I
miss
you
guys
you
it
was.
You
know,
I
miss
you
guys
and
I'm
glad
I'm
back
here
to
give
this
presentation,
and
now
I
stand
for
questioning
or
the
team
with
any
kind
of
questions
you
guys
may
have.
C
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much
questions
for
mr
avata.
C
E
C
E
I
I
don't
have
any
questions.
I
think
the
presentation
was
helpful.
Although
the
visual
you
gave
us
about
how
the
clouds
and
the
ans
ans
gateways,
what
that
looks
like
that,
I
was
like
wow.
I
don't
really
understand
it,
but
it
looks
more
secure.
So
I
I
don't
really
know.
I
don't
really
know
how
it
all
plays
out
for
other
than
there's
two
areas
that
help
us
in
case
something
shuts
down,
but
maybe
you
could
just
elaborate
how
if,
since
there's
just
kind
of
another
level
of
security.
N
So
before
right
now,
we
have
city
managed
firewall
right.
We
have
these
two
they're
located
the
mexico
do
its
firewall,
that
they
have
there
in
their
system
and
then
the
albuquerque
data
center
right.
So
what
we're
doing
is
we
are
adding
a
bigger
firewall,
a
bigger,
better
firewall,
that's
more
robust,
that's
in
the
cloud
and
also
get
redundancy
from
that
too,
by
having
two
firewalls
right,
one
located
in
phoenix
and
then
the
other
one
located
in
in
las
vegas
nevada,
not
new
mexico.
N
Just
to
make
that
clear
so
and
it's
it's
showing
that
we
have
improved.
You
know
we're
adding
more
firewall
and
also
improving
our
internet
connection
too,
as
well,
usually
firewalls.
When
you
hear
firewall
you're
thinking,
oh
man,
this
is
going
to
slow
us
down.
You
know
what
about
this.
What
about
that?
But
in
a
sense
we're
improving
we're
getting
we're
getting
double
the
bandwidth
now
from
what
we're
having
what
we
have?
What
we
currently
have,
so
I
mean
in
a
nutshell:
it's
improved
security.
E
Excellent
yeah,
I
I
was
just
joking
about
the
the
visuals
for
those
of
us
that
are
not
I.t
folks,
so
I
appreciate
you
explaining
it
and
just
wanted
to
thank
all
of
the
staff
in
each
of
your
ways.
We
we
touch
you
with
not
just
tech
support,
but
understanding
of
systems
and
those
of
you
that
are
jealous
to
have
a
fob.
It's
not
that
exciting.
E
It's
actually
frustrating
for
those
of
us
that
are
older.
That
can't
see
the
little
mechanism
and
the
numbers
I
have
to
take
off
my
glasses
and
look
at
that
and
hurry
up,
because
it's
really,
I
think
it's
really
like
15
seconds
before
it
changes.
I
might
be
wrong,
maybe
with
you,
because
you
have
very
classified.
E
N
Q
E
I
think
all
of
the
information
you
provided,
though,
is
it's
helpful
to
understanding
what
we're
doing
and
how
you
all
are
involved
in
taking
this
seriously.
So
thank
you.
Everyone,
that's
involved
with
the
process
and
those
the
stuff.
That's
not
here
because
there's
you
know
it's
a
big
team.
So
thank
you
for
all
your
work
and
your
dedication
to
this.
You
know
potential
security
issues,
so
yeah.
N
P
L
First
of
all,
I
really
wanted
to
say
that
manuel
and
joe
and
the
entire
team,
the
itt
team,
are
doing
such
great
work
to
advance
all
of
our
internet
technology,
our
cyber
security,
everything
technological
technologically
related
to
the
work
that
we
do
and
it's
a
big
deal,
they're
a
great
team
and
we're
grateful
for
all
they're
doing
and
joe
is
staying
at
the
end
of
the
meeting
in
case.
You
want
to
tip
him
on
the
way
out
so.
R
Thank
you
mayor.
Thank
you
guys
for
all
the
hard
work
that
you
do.
I
I
don't
know
if
there's
any
such
thing
as
a
non-secure
network
and
how
much
you
can
work
on
keeping
them
secure,
I
have
networks
that
my
businesses
and
I
asked
my
it
guys
all
the
time
you
know
why
do
we
have
to
have
this
password?
Why
do
I
have
to
go
through
this
layer
in
that
layer?
And
can
you
tone
it
back
and
he
says
no.
We
can
because
it's
that
important,
that
we
have
it.
C
Thank
you,
sir.
On
all
of
the
team.
It's
a
really
critical
issue
and
for
you
to
get
us
this
level
of
security
and
to
do
it
in
a
seamless
way
is
really
something
that's
important,
not
just
to
the
city
but
to
everybody
who
lives
here.
We
don't
want
to
see
an
attack
succeed
in
shutting
us
down
for
any
possible
reason.
So
thank
you
for
the
prevention
and
the
getting
ahead
of
the
curve,
appreciate
it.
Yup.
C
F
C
Okay-
and
I
think
before
we
go
to
the
presentation,
I
think
I
know
counselor
chavez
and
maybe
others
wanted
to
do
a
little
bit
of
a
framing
of
this
exercise
and
just
provide
some
context
so
counselor
chavez
you
have
before.
I
Thank
you
mayor,
and
I
want
to
thank
our
city
manager
and
our
city
attorney
for
being
willing
to
do
this
presentation,
and
I
have
been
very
lucky
as
a
new
counselor
this
year
that
I've
been
part
of
the
process
and
or
the
moving
parts
and
the
revisions
and
the
discussions
and
the
amendments.
Everything
involved
in
developing
the
new
procedural
roles,
and
so
I
feel
like
it's
almost
been
a
support
in
this
transition,
because
I
was
part
of
that
process.
I
But
one
thing
that
really
stuck
out
to
me
just
as
a
leader
was
the
governing
body
and
committee
rules
of
decorum,
and
I
know
I
probably
overly
speak
about
kindness.
I
tend
to
do
that
a
lot.
In
fact,
I
don't
think
that's
possible,
but
I
think
as
leaders
it
is
such
a
responsibility
of
ours
to
be
the
example
of
this.
I
It
is
what
I've
always
believed,
and
maybe
it's
because
I've
worked
in
a
field
where
I
have
youth
watching
my
every
single
move,
but
I
feel
like
we
should
all
kind
of
operate,
especially
as
leaders
as
if
we
have
littles
watching
our
every
move.
What
they
learn
from
us
is
kind
of
what
dictates
how
they
define
their
best.
I
It
defines
how
they
are
gonna
lead
in
the
future,
and
I
think
we
are
all
very
lucky
to
be
able
to
be
setting
that
example
for
our
future
and
for
our
community.
You
know
civility,
and
kindness
is
just
so
essential
in
our
role
in
our
role,
and
I
don't
like
I
said
again
earlier.
It
can't
be
emphasized
enough,
especially
right
now,
I
think
mayor
you
mentioned
how
there's
been
a
there's
like
a
heaviness.
We
still
have
coved
sticking
around.
I
We
still
have
the
challenges
of
so
much
sticking
around
and
you
feel
the
heaviness
of
the
world
and
I
think,
we're
all
in
dire
need
of
kindness
and
luckily,
on
this
board,
we
have
so
much
diversity
and
knowledge,
wonderful
hearts
that
I've
had
the
pleasure
of
working
with
and
learning
from,
and
I
think
that
it's
also
important
to
emphasize
the
importance
of
disagreement,
because
this
agreement
is
how
we
come
to
a
middle
ground
that
meets
the
need
of
the
community
we
serve.
I
We
must
disagree
in
a
way
where
we
respect
and
build
upon
each
other's
perspective.
In
the
most
constructive
and
productive
way-
and
I
think
if
we
really
focus
on
decorum
and
the
emphasis
on
respect
and
just
the
kindness
we're
all
capable
of-
and
we
know
our
city
desperately
needs-
we
could
take
on
the
many
many
things
that
are
set
in
front
of
us.
I
The
things
that
are
coming,
the
many
challenges
that,
as
a
collective
group,
we're
going
to
have
to
tackle,
and
so
I
thought
with
those
challenges
set
in
front
of
us
and
some
of
the
challenges
we
have
overcome.
It
would
be
a
good
idea
to
kind
of
review
this
as
a
team
that
serves
santa
fe.
So
that
is
why
I
requested
this
presentation.
Q
I
did
just
counselor,
travis
has
always
spoke
so
eloquently
and
really
I
don't
have
too
much
to
add.
But
I
did
want
to
speak
as
one
of
the
sponsors
of
the
updated
procedural
rules,
and
this
was
actually
a
section
that
we
didn't
talk
about
that.
Much
because
we
were
so
busy
talking
about
amendments
attaching
and
when
do
they
attach,
and
when
do
we
take
them
off,
and
I
forgot
what
the
other
things
that
we
spent.
H
Q
Of
time
talking
about,
but
but
the
rules
of
decorum
did
kind
of
fall
by
the
wayside.
So
I
do
want
to
thank
councillor
travis
for
bringing
this
forward
as
during
during
our
conversations
about
the
updated
procedural
rules,
we
really
didn't.
We
didn't
spend
too
much
time,
but
to
your
point,
I
think
that
they
are
in
some
ways
one
of
the
most
crucial
pieces
of
our
procedural
rules,
because
if
we
cannot,
as
you
say,
disagree
and
it's
one
of
the
things
I
like,
I
love
to
disagree
with
people
productively.
Q
But
if
we
cannot
disagree
productively,
we
cannot
form
laws
and
make
laws
productively,
and
so
I
really
do
want
to
appreciate
that
you
brought
this
forward
because
we
really
we
just
didn't
dive
in
as
much
and
thank
you
so
much
to
john
and
aaron
for
being
willing
to
take
this
one
on
and
circle
back
to
this
part.
H
Thank
you
mayor.
I
also
is
the
work
that
we've
been
doing
on
the
procedural
rules,
both
for
the
governing
body
and
then
the
ones
we
just
recently
passed
for
our
committees,
our
three
standing
committees.
H
H
I
I'm
sure
we've
all
gotten
emails
from
trusted
frustrated
members
of
the
community
and
they're
not
always
pleasant
to
read,
and
I
think
we've
all
been
subject
to
you
know
I
don't
know
behavior,
that's
not
as
as
good
as
we
would
like
to
see
from
in
our
work,
whether
it's
you
know
with
our
community
members
or
with
staff
or
with
colleagues,
and
I-
and
I
just
think
that
we're
in
the
world
too,
is
is
grumpy
and
dealing
with
a
lot,
and
I
think
it's
good
to
pause
for
a
moment
and
just
remind
ourselves
that
you
know
we
do
set
an
example
and
kind
of
shore
up
our
own
behavior.
H
As
as
we
do
these
very
difficult
jobs,
and
so
I
appreciate
counselor
chavez
bringing
this
presentation.
So
that
we
can
take
a
moment-
and
you
know
just
reflect
on
what
our
rules
are
and
how
we
want
to
work
in
the
world
and
that
we
are
reminded
to
do
it
in
a
way
that
again
sets
an
example
and-
and
I
do
like
what
you
said-
counselor
chav
is
about
you-
know
young
people
watching
us
and
how
we
set.
That
example
for
the
young
people
in
our
community
so
appreciate
that.
Thank.
S
S
Ordinance
and
at
the
time
I
thought
wow
do
we
really
need
this?
Is
that
something
we
need
and
yeah?
We
did,
and
I
think
everyone
on
this
council
has
seen
some
horrible
behavior
in
this
room.
Just
horrible
behavior,
I'm
not
saying
it
came
from
the
council,
but.
S
We've
we've
even
had
some
moments
in
this
room
that
we
all
had
good
reason
to
feel
scared
and
that
wasn't
part
of
the
job
description
that
any
of
us
signed
up
for
was
to
feel
scared
and
staff.
Shouldn't
feel
scared,
and
I
would
hope
that
as
leaders
when
we
see
that
kind
of
behavior,
where
the
person
that
can
say
you
know
what
that's
not
okay,
it
is
really
not
okay
to
speak.
That
way,
and
I
think
that
these
are
good
reminders.
S
But
some
of
us
have
seen
a
lot
in
this
room
and
I
hope
never
ever
to
see
it
again.
So
thank
you
for
making
the
effort
on
this,
and
I
would
wish
that
none
of
my
colleagues
ever
have
to
feel
scared
for
doing
this
job.
C
C
B
C
But
it
is
to
suggest
that
there
are
ways
to
have
a
debate
that
set
an
example
for
the
community
when
they're
having
a
disagreement
rather
than
resorting
to
some
angry
exchange.
C
I
know
from
my
prior
existence
in
the
magazine
world,
we
once
published
an
article
in
fast
company
called
how
to
disagree
without
being
disagreeable
based
on
a
course
that
they
actually
taught
at
intel
corporation,
because
they
believed
that
better
business
came
from
healthy
debate.
But
it
had
to
be
disagreement
without
being
disagreeable.
C
Intel
it's
good
enough
for
me,
so
I
I
really.
I
really
appreciate
your
bringing
this
back.
It's
in
a
way,
it's
a
procedural
equivalent
to
our
filling
out
our
ethics
recognition.
This
is
you
know.
We
have
to
acknowledge
ethical
responsibility.
When
we
fill
that
form
out,
we
we
ought
to
acknowledge
a
decorum
responsibility
as
we
review
what
what
is
in
our
rules
of
procedure
and
do
our
best
recognizing
we're
all
people,
and
sometimes
we
fall
short
but
the
chance
to
review.
It
is
really
constructive
for
all
of
us.
I
yeah
councilor
lee
garcia.
R
Thank
you
mayor
and
I
apologize
I'm
trying
to
raise
my
hand,
but
just
wanted
to
make
a
couple
of
comments
before
I
hear
the
presentation,
because
I,
as
I
did
state
during
the
previous
meeting,
that
we
had
that
there
was
a
lot
of
emotions
in
this
room,
and
my
hope
is
is
that
it's
not
a
one-sided
conversation,
because
I
think
that,
as
I
respect
everybody
here
on
this
governing
body,
including
the
mayor,
all
the
staff,
every
everyone,
we
may
have
different
perspectives
and
sometimes
we're
passionate
about
those.
R
And
so
you
know
there
were
some
instances
in
that
in
that
meeting
as
well,
where
you
know
I,
I
felt
that
difference
of
opinion
and
I
ended
up
being
on
the
other
side
of
it
and
saying:
okay,
what's
going
on
here
and
raise
my
voice,
but
I
do
want
to
hear
this
presentation.
I
want
to
see
what
you
know.
R
I
agree
with
you
that
we
have
to
keep
it
civil
here
as
as
leaders
of
our
community,
and
so
you
know
as
long
as
we
all
understand
that
it's
it
can
go
both
ways.
So,
let's
just
hope.
We
keep
that
in
mind
and.
B
C
I
think,
and
we
can
set
an
example-
I'm
old
enough-
probably
more
so
than
anybody
else
on
this
governing
body
to
have
watched,
televised
senate
hearings
over
multitudes
of
years
and
the
worst
example,
probably
ever
was
joe
mccarthy
and
finally
culminated
in
the
army.
Hearing
where
the
council
said
senator.
Have
you
no
shame,
because
the
way
he
was
personally
attacking
and
destroying
the
career
of
individuals
who
had
done
nothing
wrong?
I
Just
wanted
to
say
one
thing
I
feel
like,
and
I
know
that
the
word
kindness
isn't
referenced
in
the
rules
of
decorum,
but
I
feel
like
we
have
the
power
of
kindness
and
our
community
needs
that,
and
I
think
more
than
that,
like
approaching
this
difficult
task
we
have
in
front
of
us
with
kindness
is
something
that
I
think
we're
responsible
for
and
the
hearts
within
each
of
us
are
capable
of
that.
I
I
I
look
forward
to
working
with
each
co-counselor.
I
look
forward
to
disagreeing
and
building
upon
those
disagreements
and
making
a
difference.
That's
why
we're
here,
but
I
just
I
wanted
to
just
emphasize
that
if
you
look
deep
at
these
roles,
they
really
are
setting
this
up
to
be
that
example
of
kindness,
and
so
with
that.
B
L
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
members
of
the
governing
body.
I
was
tasked
with
doing
the
introduction
and
I
don't
think
that's
necessary
anymore,
and
so
I
am
going
to
turn
it
over
to
the
city
attorney
and
I
will
be
happy
to
stand
for
questions
or
participate
in
a
discussion
when
she's
done
with
the
presentation.
Thank
you.
G
G
I
took
a
broad
view
of
the
request,
so
a
review
of
the
rules
of
decorum
can
include
not
just
our
procedural
roles,
but
also
the
code
of
ethics
that
counselor
lindell
just
mentioned,
and
then
also
there's
some
general
provisions
in
the
roberts
rules
that
also
apply.
We
did
borrow
from
the
roberts
rules
when
we
worked
on
the
procedural
rules
we
also
borrowed
from
other
communities.
We
looked
at
a
number
of
other
city
council
rules
and
things
like
that.
G
G
So
just
to
recap,
we
did.
I
did
pull
from
three
primary
sources
for
our
rules
of
decorum
the
code
of
ethics,
which
is
in
chapter
one
of
the
city's
code
or
procedural
rules
that
we
adopted
this
year
and
then
robert's
rules
generally
and
the
primary
the
primary
sources
number
two
are
procedural
rules,
so
we
can
keep
going
so
in
the
code
of
ethics,
as
council
lindell
mentioned,
this
is
section
1.77k
that
speaks
to
workplace
bullying
by
governing
body
members.
G
So
this
provides
that
a
governing
body
member
shall
not
intentionally
bully
any
public
employee,
including
the
city
manager,
city
attorney
or
city
clerk,
and
for
the
purpose
of
this
paragraph
workplace
bullying
includes
our
means,
intentional
behavior,
intended
to
create
an
abusive
work
environment
for
a
public,
employee
or
public
employees,
bullying,
behaviors
behavior
in
the
workplace
that
a
reasonable
person
would
find
hostile
offensive
and
not
obviously
related
to
the
city
of
santa
fe's
legitimate
business
interests.
G
That's
how
I'd
read
this
threats
and
intimidation,
including
threats
of
discipline
or
to
terminate
a
public
employee,
and
so
this
this
section
is
a
little
bit
different
than
the
rest
of
the
rules
we'll
be
discussing,
because
the
enforcement
is
under
the
campaign
and
ethics
review
board
they're,
the
ones
that
are
charged
with
interpreting
and
implying
the
code
of
ethics.
So
that
part
does
stand
apart
and
I'm
happy
to
take
questions
at
the
end
or
during
whichever
helpful.
G
So
if
anyone
has
anything
during
please
let
me
know
and
happy
to
answer
so
then,
from
there
we'll
move
to
the
procedural
rules.
B
G
G
Three
slides
on
our
decorum
rolls-
and
this
is
section
five
of
your
procedural
rules,
so
in
the
packet
or
in
your
procedural
rules.
If
you
need
to
reference
it,
it's
section
five,
so
the
members
of
the
governing
body
shall
set
an
example
for
the
conduct
of
the
public's
business,
showing
respect
for
the
governing
body
as
an
institution
and
showing
respect
for
to
its
members,
city
staff
and
all
members
of
the
public.
G
All
the
governing
body
is
in
session.
The
members
shall
observe
civility
and
public
forum
at
all
times,
and
each
member
of
the
governing
body
has
the
following
duties,
and
so
these
duties
span
from
this
slide
to
the
next
one:
it's
to
provide
fair
and
equal
treatment
for
all
persons,
and
matters,
learn
and
study
the
background
and
purposes
of
important
items
of
business.
G
Before
voting
maintain
the
confidentiality
of
confidential
information
concerning
the
business
of
the
city
and
or
information
received
during
any
closed
session
of
the
governing
body,
and
that
refers
to
executive
session,
that's
the
only
type
of
closed
session,
we
would
have
a
recession.
That's
permitted
to
be
closed,
so
this
continues
on
the
next
page.
G
Oh
or
on
the
right
side,
okay,
including
other
governing
body
members,
except
as
may,
be
permitted
by
established
procedural
rules,
and
I
guess
I'll-
do
a
sidebar
on
this
part.
The
way
that
you
would
enforce
these
rules
is
by
a
point
of
order,
so
any
member
of
the
governing
body
may
raise
a
point
of
order
at
any
time
and
you
will
have-
and
you
have
the
right
to
speak
for
a
point
of
order.
So
you
can
say
mr
mayor
point
of
order,
and
he
says,
what's
your
point
of
order
and
then.
G
This
counselor
is
out
of
order
and,
being
out
of
order
would
be
not
complying
with
this
rule
of
decorum,
and
you
could
state
the
role
of
decorum
that
you're
speaking
to
and
we'll
get
to
what
the
mayor
can
do
when
that
happens
in
a
minute
faithfully
attend
all
sessions
of
the
governing
body
and
city
council
committees,
to
which
the
members
appointed.
Unless
unable
to
do
so
because
of
a
compelling
reason
or
circumstance
maintain
the
highest
standard
of
public
conduct.
G
By
refusing
to
condone
breaches
of
public
trust
or
improper
attempts
to
influence
legislation
and
by
willing,
and
by
being
willing
to
call
a
point
of
order.
When
a
member
who
negligently
willfully
or
intentionally
violates
the
procedural
roles
of
decorum
contained
in
these
rules.
And
that's
what
we
refer
to
earlier.
I
G
There
might
be
overlap
between
these
and
the
code
of
conduct,
that's
possible
as
well,
so
that
that
could
arise
and
then
our
last
slide.
I
just
wanted
to
bring
in
a
couple
of
the
robert's
rules,
provisions
that
are
pertinent-
and
this
is
in
article
7,
rule
43
of
the
robber
jewels
also
called
decorum
and
debate
and
there's
a
little
bit
of
overlap
here,
as
mentioned
earlier.
G
Not
what
someone
else
may
be
said
about
subject
matter
or
thinks
about
the
subject
matter
or
is
motivated
by
for
bringing
the
subject
matter,
and
that
goes
into
the
leader
bolded
section
here.
The
officers
of
the
assembly
should
always
be
referred
to
by
their
official
titles.
I
think
we
do
a
relatively
good
job
of
that
in
this
in
this
body
and
it's
not
allowable
to
arrange
the
motives
of
a
member,
but
the
nature
or
consequences
of
a
measure
rather
than
a
member,
may
be
condemned
in
strong
terms.
G
So
the
if
a
matter
is
if
someone
doesn't
like
a
particular
matter.
You
can
certainly
speak
about
how
you
feel
about
that
matter
in
strong
terms.
It's
when
the
motives
of
someone
else
are
being
brought
to
the
fore,
but
that's
not
permissible,
and
so
it's
not
the
person
but
the
measure.
That
is
the
subject
of
the
debate,
and
that
concludes
my
presentation.
C
Thanks
and
you'll
be
sending
that
to
us,
it's
a
lot
of
small
words
on
a
a
piece
of
paper,
so
it'd
be
good
to
have
that
in
our
inbox,
councilor
rivera,
you
had
your
hand
better.
D
Just
because
it's
done
in
a
soft
tone
or
a
calm,
demeanor
does
not
mean
it's
not
bullying,
and
it
goes
both
ways
I
think
sometimes
it's
also
in
the
words
you
use
and
I'm
not
sure
they
needed
to
be
done.
I
think
the
presentation
by
itself
stood
alone
and
would
have
sufficed.
C
A
A
It
should
be
understood
that
the
purpose
is
to
have
that
better
and
out
product.
I
completely
understand
a
lot
of
the
the
rules
and
that
are
in
place,
understand
that,
but
I
think
that's
where
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that
is.
I
make
that
point.
A
We
are
charged
with
holding
that
product
of
accountability
which
ultimately
leads
to
uncomfortable
conversations
because
think
of
it
in
the
sense
of
when,
when
you
are
being
as
an
individual
being
held
accountable,
folks
automatically
become
defensive
and
say
well
this
that
or
the
other,
and
we
need
to
understand
that
that
is
going
to
happen.
A
A
I've
had
similar
conversations
with
my
children
in
a
sense
that
this
is
how
we
work
towards
ensuring
people
are
doing
what
we
are
supposed
to
be
doing.
People
are
doing
what
we've
hired
them
to
do.
People
are
doing
what
we've
agreed
for
them
to
do,
people
we're
holding
each
other
accountable
and
those
lead
to
uncomfortable
situations,
and
I
think
those
are
teaching
moments
not
only
for
us,
but
for
the
public
and
it
kind
of
circles
back
to
that
sausage.
Making.
A
It
is
the
process,
it
is
the
process
that
the
public
entrusted
us
with
and
the
public
entrusts
us
to
to
figure
it
out.
I
don't
think
I've
said
on
this
body
where
folks
have
been
calling
each
other
names.
I
don't
think
I
I
definitely
know
I've
felt
intimidated
myself
as
counselor
rivera
said,
because.
A
A
A
A
Mentions
that
you
know
I
I
I
I
just
yeah,
I'm
I'm
at
a
loss
of
words
right
now.
I
think
we
just
need
to
be
able
to
work
together
and
ensure
that,
because
of
the
work
we've
been
entrusted
with
that,
it's
not.
A
Be
rainbows
and
glitter
all
the
time
they're
going
to
be
tough
situations
and
we're
all
adults.
I
think
we
all
understand
that
if
somebody
needs
to
to
to
be
brought
it
to
their
attention
that
they
might
be
out
of
order
and
so
be
it.
But
I
want
to
ensure
that
we're
not
silencing
anybody's
voice
with
passive
aggressive
attacks.
O
C
Answer
others
who
want
to
be?
Oh,
we
got
a
lot
of
hands
all
of
a
sudden,
councilman
varial
and
then.
C
E
And
thanks
to
the
staff
for
the
reminders
of
decorum-
and
I
think
it's
also
just
procedural
rules-
are
new-
not
decorum-
that's
not
new,
but
just
ways
of
trying
to
navigate
our
procedural
roles.
I
have
to
say
it's
challenging
for
me.
I
was
having
a
conversation
today
with
mr
guillen
and
I'm
like.
I
don't
understand
how
this
works,
but
I
think
I
what
I,
what
the
rules
of
decorum
doesn't
include
is
passive
aggressiveness
and
microaggressions
and
unfortunately
those
are
things
that
do
happen,
and
it's
unfortunate.
E
I
don't
even
know
how
to
really
like
tackle
those,
because
I
think
some
people
don't
even
know
they're
doing
it.
So
I
just
want
us
to
be
cognizant
of
what
those
mean
like
what
microaggressions
look
like.
They
are
different
for
every
single
person
and
and
they
do
affect
people
and
it
is
a
form
of
bullying.
So
I
just
want
us
to
be
cognizant
of
that.
E
And
so
I
just
want
us
to
be
cognizant
of
that,
because
we
all
like
even
just
talking
and
someone
not
listening
while
we're
talking.
It's
that's
hard
too.
I
mean
so.
I
just
want
us
to
be
a
cognizant
of
those
microaggressions
on
and
off
the
court,
so
to
speak,
because
they're
challenging,
I
think
we
all
are
dealing
with
stuff
and
to
to
share
that
and
the
share
the
shared
humanity
we
are
experiencing
is
helpful,
and
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
for
me
for,
like
my
colleagues
to
be
like
hey.
E
This
is
challenging
for
me
or
talking
to
each
other,
because
then
it
comes
out
in
ways
that
are
really
awful
and
not
feeling
good
like
right
now.
It
doesn't
feel
good
right
on
the
council
talking
about
this,
because
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
why,
then
we
have
this
conversation
outside
of
this
public
forum,
so
it
doesn't
feel
like
shaming
for
some
people
and
that
every
single
one
of
us
needs
to
this
applies
to
every
single
one
of
us.
So
I
guess
I'll
stop
there,
I'm
just
it
was
surprising.
E
This
was
on
the
agenda
and
I
guess
I
maybe
this
was
the
only
way
you
thought
would
be
the
best
method
to
try
to
like
capture
and
have
everybody
here
present
and
listening.
E
So
I
think
I
think
we
all
have
an
ability
to
for
improvement
on
how
we
like
try
to
navigate
already
difficult
job
with
already
difficult
issues
and
to
be
more
empathetic
with
each
other
and
understand
that
there's
things
that
we're
going
through
and
we're
trying
to
figure
it
out
and
we're
not
perfect
and
we're
human
so
I'll
stop
there.
Thank
you.
Thank.
Q
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
just
want
to
to
make
sure
you
know
again,
as
as
one
of
the
sponsors
and
the
architects
of
what
we
have
passed
as
our
rules
of
decorum,
that
their
the
intention
was
never
to
not
have
hard
conversations
and
that
and
that
we
don't
disagree,
and
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that
intention
is
very
clear
that
there
was
never
this
like
well,
we
we
can't
disagree.
Q
But
there
was
within
the
course
of
some
of
our
disagreements,
some
things
that
were
that
we
witnessed
both
you
know
on
this
council
or
from
the
public,
or
just
you
know,
taking
rules
that
we
saw
from
other
cities
that
were
like
a
good
point.
That's
probably
something
that
we
we
should.
You
know,
make
sure
that
our
council
is
adhering
to
and
that
we
do
have
a
place
to
point
to
when
somebody
is
out
of
order,
but
it
was
never
intended
to
be
well
now.
Q
We
all
have
to
agree
with
each
other,
and
so
I
I
want
to
make
sure
that
this
body
does
understand
that.
Q
Because
because
these
aren't
easy
issues-
and
there
are
no
and
a
lot
of
them-
there's
not
really
a
right
answer.
There's
no!
You
know
there's
there's
more
right
answers,
maybe
that,
and
we
disagree
on
which
the
more
right
answer
is
and
that
the
intention
was
really
never
to
erase
that
aspect
of
disagreement.
Q
It
was
to
how
do
we
ground
ourselves
in
having
productive
conversations
and
and
recognizing
that
everybody
has
a
different
communication
style
and
everybody
has
kind
of
different
things
that
they
get,
that
they
find
to
be
not
productive
and
what
are
some
baseline
rules
that
we
can
all
agree
on.
Q
Even
within
this
conversation,
one
of
it
gets
kind
of-
it's
not
being
outwardly
said,
but
there
is
this
kind
of
idea
of
well
the
the
purpose
behind
this
was
to
shame
somebody
or
to
you
know
to
that
it's
targeted
at
somebody,
and
so
it's
again
this
assumption
of
intention
that
and
and
speaking
of
an
assumption
of
intention
and
so
just
to
kind
of
bring
our
awareness
that
that
is
something
that
we
all
have,
that
we
kind
of
say
well,
obviously,
this
person's
just
trying
to
pull
this
one
on
us,
and
I
would
say
that
everybody
does
it.
Q
You
know
from
time
to
time
and
for
us
to
be
more
aware
that
we,
we
all
have
those
ideas
of
like
well.
They
just
said
this
and
and
putting
putting
our
own
screen
and
interpretation
on
something
that
is
happening.
This
is
an
uncomfortable
conversation
because,
to
be
honest,
we've
not
done
a
great
job
in
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
our
meetings,
and
I
say
that
we,
including
all
of
us,
you
know,
we've
all
fallen
off.
What
we
would
we
would
hold
this.
Q
Q
We
do
get
very
passionate
and
it
is
not
about
erasing
passion.
It
is
not
about
erasing
how
much
we
all
care.
It
is
not
about
making
sure
that
we,
we
all
agree,
and
we
just
kind
of
smile
and
nod
our
heads.
That's
that's
by
no
means
what,
when,
when
we
were
drafting
these
rules
of
decorum
that
the
sponsors
had
in
mind.
Well,
I
can
speak
for
myself.
Q
I
will
let
the
other
sponsors
be
for
herself,
but
that
is
not
what
was
really
coming
to
the
forefront,
but
really,
how
do
we
have
these
hard
conversations
in
a
way
that
gets
us
closer
to
good
policy,
and
that
doesn't
mean
that
it
is
comfortable,
but
it
does
not
mean
that
it
has
to
be.
Q
Adversarial
and
and
and
it
is
a
fine
line
to
walk-
and
we
will
all
cross
it
at
some
point,
and
so
how
do
we
bring
ourselves
back
and
how
do
we
bring
each
other
back,
and
so
I
cannot
speak
to
councillor
travis's
reasonings
for
requesting
this
other
than
what
she
has
said.
She
has
put
that
out
there,
but
I
you
know.
I
can't
again
speak
to
why
I
was
happy
to
see
this,
which
was
that
this
wasn't
something
that
we
talked
about.
We
had
all
these.
A
Q
You
know
kind
of
technical
details
that
we
looked
at,
but
I
do
think
that
this
was
probably
one
of
the
more
important
pieces
of
our
updated
procedural
rules,
because
it
allows
us
to
do
those
other
technical
things
and
allows
us
to
move
through
the
messy
uncomfortable
challenging
process
of
policy
making
in
a
way
that
does
allow
everyone
to
bring
out
their
opinions
and
their
voices,
and
I
think
that
it
is
important
that
all
of
us
can
bring
out
our
different
opinions
and
voices
and
the
opinions
of
our
constituents,
which
vary.
Q
You
know,
of
course,
like
even
within
our
districts,
our
constituents,
very
you
know,
I
always
those
conversations
with
constituents
was
like.
Well,
you
obviously
didn't
listen
to
your
constituents
because
you
disagree
with
me.
I
said:
would
you
would
you
guys
like
to
talk,
because
I've
had
very
different
conversations,
and
I
think
it's
always
like
a
really
wonderful
reminder
to
me
when
I
get
like
the
back-to-back
emails
of
like
this?
Is
the
best
thing
ever?
Q
Thank
you
so
much
for
passing
this
or
how
could
you
possibly
pass
us
or
whatever
it
is
of
how
different
the
opinions
are
across
our
community
and
that
we
have
this
incredible
challenge
of
trying
to
navigate
all
those
differences
of
opinions
and
in
many
ways
the
variety
of
opinions
that
sit
on
this
governing
body
really
do
a
beautiful
job
of
illustrating
that,
and
so
how
do
we
as
a
whole
find
ways
to
move
through
that
that
that
is
a
good
example
that
does
get
us
to
better
laws
and
that
doesn't
leave
us
feeling
terrible
because
I
know
all
of
us
have
left
this
diet
at
one
time
or
another
feeling
disrespected
cut
down.
Q
B
C
I
I
I
think
that
is
what
interferes
with
the
type
of
leadership
I
practice
with
just
collaborative
leadership,
because
we
have
rules
that
limit
our
collaboration,
which
then
limit
getting
to
know
one
another,
which
then
kind
of
interfere
with
the
personal
bond.
That
is
really
essential
for
your
co-workers.
You
know,
and
in
my
other
job
I
have
a
co-director.
We
spend
a
lot
of
time
together.
We
know
each
other.
I
I
I
So
I
just
wanted
to
have
a
moment
to
apologize
if
anyone
felt
that
way,
but
to
also
emphasize
the
reason
why
I
pulled
this.
Thank
you.
C
C
About
nine
months
ago,
I
bought
a
book
for
all
of
the
heads
of
our
departments
called
radical
candor,
and
the
title
of
the
book
tells
you
what
it's
about.
How
do
you
express
yourself,
honestly
without
demeaning
other
people?
How
do
you
use
radical
candor
as
a
constructive
management
tool
so
that
people
say
what's
on
their
minds?
But
don't
do
it
in
a
way
that
destroys
the
cohesion
of
the
organization?
C
At
a
higher
level,
because
people
can
do
this
work
that
is
difficult
and
challenging
in
a
way
that
expresses
the
aspirations
of
the
organization
rather
than
the
assumptions
that
are
often
left
to
about
other
people.
I
I
recommend
it.
I,
as
I
said,
I
bought
a
copy
for
every
one
of
our
department
heads
because
I
think
it's
something
we
need
to
do
better
as
a
city
government
and
take
a
look
at
it
and
see
what
you
think.
C
F
G
May
river,
I'm
just
going
to
ask
for
a
procedural
motion
before
that,
because
the
packet
material
wasn't
included
in
the
agenda
on
friday,
and
I
do
apologize
for
that.
We
were
working
with
the
mexican
consulate
on
what
the
appropriate
mechanism
for
getting
this
approved
would
be,
and
also
working
on
parallel
versions
of
the
agreement
in
both
spanish
and
english,
of
which
we
are
going
to
sign
both
versions.
G
B
B
B
H
B
C
So
now
we
can
have
this
matter
brought
in
front
of
us.
Is
it
I'm
looking
at
you,
madam
city
attorney?
Is
it
better
for
us
to
get
a
motion,
or
do
you
want
to
talk
us
through
this?
This.
C
Madam
city
attorney,
I
think
you
were,
for
reasons
of
because
we
needed
an
mou
to
move
forward.
It
ended
up
in
your
your
department,
but
it's
there's
nothing
specific
about
the
city
attorney's
office.
That
requires
it
to
come
through
you
it
just
when
we
looked
at
how
to
work
with
the
with
the
sovereign
government,
we
thought
you
would
be
the
best
element
in
our
city
government
to
do
that.
Work
so
not
to
require
you
to
do
all
the
heavy
lifting.
G
And
mayor
webber
there
were,
there
was
a
bunch
of
volleying
of
what
the
best
legal
mechanism
for
this
is
because
a
permit
to
use
the
plaza
generally
doesn't
come
to
the
governing
body
in
this
case
we're
facilitating
the
permit
or
the
only
way
to
allow
it
for
free.
Under
the
resolution,
we
passed
back
in
2013,
which
is
2013,
0
or
103,
which
is
mentioned
in
the
las
juarez
clause.
G
That
resolution
provides
a
specific
mechanism
for
government
to
government
fee
waivers,
which
is
different
than
other
types
of
fewers,
and
that's
in
section
5
of
that
resolution,
and
it
speaks
to
a
waiver
through
a
government
to
government
agreement
and
those
are
dealt
with
separately.
So
we
decided
this
made
the
most
sense
here.
The
consulate
is
a
representative
of
the
mexican
government
and
then
our
city
manager
authority
excludes
city
manager
authority
for
memorandums
of
understanding
with
other
governments,
regardless
of
the
value,
and
so
that's
why
this
is
here.
G
We
were
hoping
to
find
a
mechanism
where
we
didn't.
We
didn't
get
this
until
after
the
last
governing
body
meeting
and
it
was
not
possible
to
bring
it
through
the
whole
process.
The
mexican
consulate
also
wanted
to
bring
hard
copies
and
so
you're,
seeing
a
scanned
version
of
the
hard
copies
with
initials
on
every
page,
which
I
understand
to
be
their
preferred
practice
and
we
got
those
on
friday.
G
So
that
is.
That
is
the
reason
for
the
delays,
but
to
get
elaborate
on
that
a
little
bit.
But
basically
this
is
for
a
four-year
agreement
to
use
the
plaza
for
the
celebration
of
el
grito
on
the
plaza,
which
is
a
celebration
of
the
day
of
independence
for
the
mexico.
Apparently,
celebrations
do
start
in
the
15th,
which
is
why
the
whereas
clause
mentions
the
15th.
G
I
was
asked
about
that
earlier
today,
but
continues
on
to
the
16th,
which
is
the
actual
day
of
celebration,
and
this
allows
for
a
waiver
of
the
fees
and
for
support
of
the
event.
We
have
done
this
previously
prior
to
the
pandemic,
but
not
in
the
last
couple
years.
S
Thank
you,
mayor
yeah,
at
noon.
Today
we
didn't
have
any
any
attachments
to
this
packet.
It
just
came
today
after
noon.
S
Okay,
why
isn't
there
an
fir
so
that
we
know
the
amount
that
we
are
supporting
this
event
with
with
police
and
et
cetera.
B
S
It
seems
like
truly
a
very,
very
last
minute
thing
that
we're
being
asked
to
support
with
no
idea
of
how
much
it
is
to
support
it.
I
know
we
will
support
it,
but
it
doesn't
seem
like
good
process
to
me
and
that's
what
we
try
to
do
here
is
to
improve
our
process,
and
this
isn't
very
good
process.
As
far
as
I'm
concerned.
S
I
mean
I,
I
know
that
the
council
will
support
this,
but
I
would
like
to
see
us
not
use
this
type
of
process
in
the
future.
I
don't
think
that
this
is
a
good
path
for
us
to
stay
on.
S
So
let
me
ask
just
one
more
question
and
I
the
idea
that
government
and
government
to
government,
so
if
what
other
group
would
be
able
to
come
in
and
ask
to
use
the
plaza
and
we
would
be
willing
to
forego
all
fees
and
provide
police
and
fire
protection
any
other
sovereign
government
that
would
want
to
do
that
with
that
would
be
covered.
G
D
I
agree
with
councillor
lindell
with
regards
to
to
the
fees,
usually
on
one
day.
Events
like
this
police
and
fire,
maybe
not
police,
but
fire-
don't
typically
participate
in
this.
Does
this
now
mean
that
police
and
fire
will
have
to.
G
Wherever
councillors,
I
actually
do
not
know
for
sure
that
there
are
police
officers
for
this.
That
is
included
in
the
section
on
fees,
but
I
have
not
been
involved
in.
The
permit
itself
does
not
require
there
to
be
fees.
If
there
are
fees
that
is
covered.
G
Wherever
council
river
that's
correct
and
that
and
the
everything
requested
is
even
if
it's
requested
and
able
to
provide,
I
would
say
and
and
that
if
barbara
and
the
city
have
decided
they
that
they're
like
if
that
has
happened,
that
they
agreed
to
provide
them,
then
they
won't
be
charged.
I
don't
know
for
sure,
if
they're,
requiring
them
or
not
or
or
even
have
requested
them.
D
D
G
There
were
councillor,
this
is
not
a
presidential
document,
so
let's
make
sure
this
doesn't
create
any
sort
of
requirement
in
the
future
for
any
other
agreement
we
can,
and
certainly
if
we
want
one
of
the
bills
that
I
think
has
been
requested,
that
is
in
the
works,
is,
is
a
resolution
on
the
rules
and
fees
for
the
plaza,
which
is
called
foreign
ordinances,
but
it
does
not
exist
yet
so
that
could
potentially
address
this.
We
don't
have
that
document
now.
G
I
think
the
practic,
absolutely
generally
private
businesses
are
required
to
cover
all
the
expenses
of
their
events,
which
could
include
the
barricading
that
you're
describing
not
sure
if
it's
required
in
this
event
absolutely
could
be
dealt
with
differently
in
the
future.
For
other
events
with
private
or
government.
The
provision
and
resolution
2013
103
does
not
require
few
waivers
for
governments,
it
allows
for
it
and
we
could
certainly
waive
certain
fees
and
not
others.
D
Okay,
I
think
that's
it.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you,
councilwoman
thank.
E
You
mayor
just
wanted
to
understand
why
it's
for
all
future
dates
instead
of
just
focusing
on
this
year,
and
the
reason
why
I
ask
is
because
there's
a
typo
I
do
think
we
need
to
mention
that,
although
we
express
saying
that
happens
on
september
15th
via
the
independencia
is
decision,
and
it
needs
to
state
that
somewhere,
it
doesn't
say
that
anywhere.
E
So
I'm
wondering
if
there's
a
way
to
just
reduce
the
years
and
just
say
september
of
this
year,
so
that
they
can
have
the
celebration
this
this
week,
which
is
this
week
and
then
think
about
how
to
structure
it
so
that
we
are
clear
about
fees,
we're
clear
about
that.
We
correct
some
of
the
language.
E
What's
already,
you
know
hoping
to
be
planned
for
this
friday,
but
I
just
and
I
you
know
it
is
a
government
to
government
celebration
and
they-
and
although
I
don't
know
if
we
need
the
well,
maybe
we
do
need
fire,
but
the
fire
would
indicate
that
the
fees
are
waived,
and
so
I
don't
know,
I'm
I'm
just
trying
to
find
a
middle
ground
here,
because
we
want
to
support
this.
E
I
think
the
majority
of
us
do
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
if
there's
already,
typos
and
stuff,
we
should
correct
those
instead
of
having
that
carry
on
in
the
next
few
years.
G
A
I
think
the
consulate
would
be
okay
if
we
set
forth
the
amendments
as
councilwoman
via
rael
mentioned
that
if
we're
not
canceling
this
year
and
we
work
towards
next
year,
I
think
there's
that
good
faith
attempt
on
our
end
that
we
would
be
able
to
host
this
event
on
friday
and
they
would
sign
the
contract
if
we
presented
the
amendment.
So
that's
just
my
opinion.
A
We
fought
tooth
and
nail
for
the
city
to
hang
the
banners,
the
veterans
banners
and
there
was
that
argument.
We
can't
the
city
can't
it's
anti-donation.
The
city
can't
support
any
organization
and
now
we're
I'm
seeing
we're
waiving
fees,
we're
providing
police
presence
potentially
providing
fire
presence.
A
G
Mayor
counselor,
garcia,
thank
you
for
the
question.
It
is
because
governments
are
expressly
excluded
from
the
prohibition.
That
is
the
anti-donation
clause.
It
is
only
private
entities
that
have
that
restriction.
C
Okay,
and
also
I'm
sorry,
I
just
wanted
to
build
on
that-
we
had
put
into
our
own
resolution
the
stipulation
that
we
would
not
pay
for
the
banners
previously.
That
was
a
matter
we
voted
on,
so
it
was
a
double
dip.
On
the
one
hand,
it
was
a
different
category,
not
government,
to
government,
and
on
the
other
hand,
it
was
also
something
the
council
had
put
into
our
own
vote
about
whether
we
would
or
wouldn't
pick
up
that
cost.
G
Thank
you
for
the
reminder
on
the
on
on
the
ordinance
that
provides
about
the
fees
that
ordinance
is
about
government
speech
in
relation
to
the
banner,
so
the
city
could
decide
to
cover
costs
related
to
banners.
The
city
made
a
conscious
decision
not
to
do
so
in
its
ordinance,
and
that
was
an
amendment
to
the
ordinance.
So
it
started
off
not
making
that
prohibition
and
because
it's
government
speech,
meaning
speech
of
the
city,
we
actually
could
pay
if
we
wanted
to
so
it.
But
it's
a
collaboration
right.
G
A
Okay,
thank
you
for
that
clarification,
and
that
brings
me
to
thank
you.
You
set
up
my
second
question
regarding
the
third
party
beneficiaries,
and
that
was
the
big
hang
up
in
the
ordinance
that,
due
to
the
city,
attorney's
interpretation,
the
city
of
santa
fe
was
a
third
party,
and
here
it
says
no
there's
no
third
party
beneficiary.
So
how
how
again?
A
I'm
just
confused,
because
we
are
previous
case
said
the
cities.
A
third
party
were
now
saying
the
city's,
not
a
third
party,
I'd
just
like
us
to
be
consistent
in
the
sense,
is
the
city
of
santa
fe.
A
third
party
is
the
city
of
santa
fe,
not
because
in
this
contract
it
does
not
identify
them
as
a
third
party.
This
is
the
way
I
typically
interpret
third
party,
whereas
the
previous
interpretation
I
just
was
very
confusing.
A
G
The
banner
situation
did
not
involve
a
contract.
This
situation
does
the
banner
situation
is
governed
by
different
ordinance.
This
is
governed
by
resolution.
2013-103,
there's
a
very
specific
banner
ordinance
that
governs
that
section
that
speaks
to
third
parties
and
it's
not
in
relation
to
a
contract.
It
is
the
outside
organization.
That's
the
third
party
in
that
context,
not
the
city,
and
here
the
parties
contracting
are
the
city
and
the
consulate
of
mexico,
so
they're
really
just
entirely
different
categories
of
city
actions.
A
Okay,
thank
you
for
clarifying
it.
I
think
that's
where
the
disagreement
was
because
there
there
was
contracts
involved
not
directly
with
the
city
but
within
the
with
the
whole
veterans
banner
process,
because
there's
contracts
to
purchase
the
banners
for
contracts
to
purchase
the
materials
etc.
So
again,
just
I
was
just
asking
for
clarification.
I
I
definitely
support
this.
A
I
do
think
that
there
needs
to
be
the
corrections
made
and
we
can
send
it
off
to
the
consulate,
letting
them
know
that
in
good
faith,
we
do
hope
to
host
these
events
for
the
foreseeable
future,
and
we
can
work
to
figure
out
what
that
looks
like,
because
I
definitely
want
the
community
to
participate
in
the
independence
day
that
celebrated
on
friday.
A
Q
Thank
you
so
much,
mr
mayor,
you
may
have
already
the
your
previous
answers.
I
apologize
to
counsel
garcia's
questions
might
answer
this
one
as
well.
Q
Q
As
you
know,
I
know
like
hanukkah,
on
the
plaza
we'll
we'll
get
a
sponsorship
and-
and
I
believe
fees
are
waived
at
that
time
as
well.
So
would
you
be
able
to
provide
information
on
the
difference
between
those
processes.
G
B
G
G
E
B
L
I
add
to
that
response
for
a
little
bit.
Yes,
mr
city
furniture,
mr
mayor
counselor,
so
two
quick
things,
one
of
which
is
sort
of
a
broader
sort
of
timing
issue.
The
first
email
that
I
have
about
this
request
was
from
august
24th
so
from
three
weeks
ago,
and
so
we're
overcoming
a
little
bit
of.
I
think
this
is
the
request
of
first
impression.
We
haven't
seen
something
like
this
before
some
work
on
the
part
of
the
city
staff,
to
figure
out
what
to
do,
how
to
do
it.
L
I
do
see
an
email
that
barbara
lopez
sent
to
city
council
listserv
into
the
mayor's
office
on
the
24th
asking.
If
anyone
wanted
to
use
their
waiver,
I
don't
know
if
anyone
responded,
you
did
great
and
then
I
think
to
the
attorney's
point.
We
weren't
sure
if
that
was
even
an
appropriate
mechanism
to
use
it
was
just,
I
think,
our
staff
trying
to
move
as
quickly
as
possible.
So
to
the
questions
about
timing,
I
apologize
that
not
everything
was
in
the
book
by
friday,
but
this
has
moved
on
top
of
fiesta's
zombie
and
everything
else.
L
Q
Thank
you
and
yes,
I
did
find
that
email
in
my
inbox.
So
thank
you
for
alerting
me
to
the
fact
that
that
was
there.
I
don't
believe
I
have
any
other
any
further
questions.
You
know.
Q
I
would
agree
with
my
colleagues
that
if
we
wanted
to
you
know,
I
do
not
want
to
get
in
the
way
of
this
celebration
this
year,
and
so
if
we
wanted
to
approve
it
at
least
for
this
year
and
then
explore
it
further
with
some
of
the
concerns
that
are
coming
up,
but
I
know
that
some
of
the
legislation
coming
in-
I
think
city
attorney
mick,
sherry
alluded
to
will
probably
clarify
some
of
the
questions
that
are
coming
up,
that
we
don't
really
specify
yet,
and
so
I
know
that's
something
that
councilman
vitoria
has
mentioned
in
conversations,
and
so
thank
you
councilwoman
for
taking
for
taking
that
work
on.
Q
I'm
sure
it's
not
an
easy
one
to
look
at
so
and
that'll
yield
the
floor.
Thank
you.
E
Mr
mayor,
am
I
am
I
trying
to
type
something
it
should
you
want
it
in
written
form?
How
do
you
want
to
do
this.
G
G
Right
and
it
seems
like
we've
already
waived,
the
one
role
and
there's
not
really
a
possibility
of
having
had
a
written
rule
in
advance.
In
this
particular
case,.
E
C
G
G
Although
we
are
still
supposed
to
any
well,
that's
still
under
legislative,
so
perhaps
if
you
can
verbalize
it
and
if
folks
can
understand
it,
we
can
go.
I'm
guessing
you're
going
to
add
an
I
to
grito
and
whereas
clause
three,
where
an
issue
correct,
you
would
like
to
add
awareness
clause
about
the
16th
of
september
being
the
dia
de
independencia.
G
E
And
just
for
clarification:
where
were
you
going
to
place
september
16th.
E
E
G
Mayor
webber,
council:
that's
why
I
don't
want
to
get
to.
I
don't
want
to
characterize
their
data
so.
E
G
Marrying
counselor,
I
mean
it's,
it's
gone
back
and
forth.
It
was
translated
by
the
mexican
consulate
and
then
we
had
our
translator
verify
the
translation.
D
Thank
you,
mayor
city
attorney,
the,
whereas
state
specific
times
from
three
to
seven
does
the
now
for
their.
You
resolve
the
first
one.
G
D
I
was
just
if
the
times
needed
to
be
was
going
to
add
it
to
the
end
of
2022..
G
G
And
mayweather
counselor
there
will
be
a
permit
as
well,
which
will
describe
these
things
so
that
the
permit
could
include
that
type
of
information.
This
doesn't
have
to
include
everything.
G
C
E
You
mayor
just
a
clarification
on
fees.
This
section,
isn't
it
really?
The
city
shall
wave
all
city
fees
associated
with
the
event.
They're
gonna
have
other
fees
that
they're
going
to
have
to,
as
we
were
talking
about
having
an
event.
There's
all
these
other
fees
associated
not
associated
with
the
city
so
shouldn't
it
say
specific
to
our
fees,
because
that's
what
we
have
control
over.
G
Mayor
of
a
counselor,
this
cannot
be
used
to
waive
anyone
else's
fees,
because
no
one
else
has
a
party.
That's
why
it
says:
there's
no
third
parties.
So
if
they
wanted
to
try
to
use
this
to
waive
someone
else's
fees,
I
don't
think
they
will
be
okay.
G
G
Mayor
webber
counselor,
let's
just
for
the
record
there
to
add
an
eye
to
the
third,
whereas
clause
and
to
amend
part
1a
to
limit
the
years
and
dates
to
september
16
2022
excellent.
Thank
you.
F
F
C
You
it's
seven
o'clock.
I
wonder
if
we
can
get
a
motion
to
change
our
agenda.
Take
up
petitions
from
the
floor
at
this
time.
C
E
A
clarification,
so
does
that
mean
because
we
have
public
hearings
right
after?
Are
we
going
back
into
executive
session
or
can
we
move
the
executive
session
after
our
public
hearings.
C
C
We'll
excuse
councillor
lindell
from
this
vote.
That
means
we
are
moving
now
at
about
702
to
the
petitions
from
the
floor,
if
you're
here
for
a
matter
unrelated
to
something
that
unrelated
to
something
that
involves
a
public
hearing,
but
it's
something
you
want
to
call
to
the
governing
body's
attention.
B
R
City
manager,
clerk,
my
name
is
stephen
fox.
I've
been
working
for
the
last
two
years
to
bring
a
branch
of
the
united
nations
to
santa
fe.
Actually,
two
and
a
half
years,
it's
going
really
well.
I
have
three
undersecretaries
general:
that
I've
proposed
to
the
united
nations
general
assembly
and
to
the
secretary
general
to
numerous
heads
of
state
first
one
which
was
to
reply
to
to
recognize
the
united
nations.
Santa
fe
was
were
their
majesties,
the
king
and
queen
of
spain
and
the
princesses
the
asturias.
R
How
long
do
I
have
two
minutes?
Okay,
so
the
ideas
in
short,
are
for
the
general
assembly
to
pass
resolutions
to
have
in
santa
fe,
not
adding
to
new
york
bureaucracies,
three
under
secretary
general,
first
of
all,
under
secretary
general,
to
stop
child
trafficking.
R
R
Otp
cr
four,
seven,
three
o
two
one.
The
first
person
on
the
list
was
boris
johnson.
The
prime
minister
of
england
only
took
seven
months
and
one
day
for
him
in
that
indictment
being
accepted
by
the
international
criminal
court
for
him
to
resign
on.
The
list
also
is
false
schwab.
The
founder
of
the
world
economic
forum
fell,
schwab
is
a
german
83
year
old
german
living
in
culinary,
which
is
a
suburb
of
geneva.
R
Also
on
the
list
for
several
americans
liam
henry
gates
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linda
indicates
that
there
are
melinda
gates
no
longer
married
to
bill
gates
and
the
ceos
of
pfizer
ceo
of.
R
Moderna
and
the
charges
are
genocide.
R
The
charges
are
genocide
for
what
they,
what
they've
done
with
those
vaccinations
and
it's
a
kind
of
chromosomal
implosion,
which
is
a
term
that
I've
developed
and
cleared
and
got
it
accepted
by
the
chairman
of
the
department
of
genetics
at
einstein,
albert
einstein,
college
of
medicine
in
the
bronx
new
york.
So
my
time
about
up,
thank
you
very
much.
R
I
hope
all
I'm
asking
you
to
do
individually
or
severally
or
as
a
as
a
group
is
the
general
assembly
starts
tomorrow
in
new
york
city
and
if
you
can
take
the
time
to
write
a
letter
to
the
usa
secretary
of
state,
anthony
anthony
blinken
anthony
without
the
h,
lincoln
bli
k,
bli
and
ken
2201
c
street
washington
dc
20250,
and
to
the
us
ambassador
to
the
united
nations
linda
thomas
greenfield
799
u.n,
plaza
new
york
city,
new
york,
one
zero
zero
one,
seven.
I
think
we
can
get
this
done
on
the
nutrition
resolution.
Thank.
H
H
C
Think
your
time
was
up.
Thank
you,
you're
welcome
others
present
or
on
or
on
zoom,
who
would
like
to
use
the
petitions
from
the
floor
opportunity.
B
F
C
If
this
is
for
petitions
from
the
floor,
not
for
any
of
of
the
other
matters
before
us.
C
C
That's
a
great
question:
while
we're,
while
we're
waiting
for
the
city
attorney
to
return,
we
do
have
people
who
want
to
speak
to
the
public
matter.
Are
we
going
to
be
in
a?
I
know
it's
hard
to
predict,
but
given
what
we're
going
over
city
attorney
any
idea
what
our
timetable
could
be.
G
There
are
counselors,
there's
three
matters.
I
think
my
matter,
which
is
about
the
action
item.
That's
on
the
agenda
should
be
pretty
short,
it's
very
similar
to
matters
if
everybody
has
approved
before
and
then
there's
two
updates
on
ongoing
litigation
and
then
the
two
cases
that
are
listed
in
the
caption,
so
it
really
just
depends
on
the
level
of
questions.
C
No
probably
7
15,
I
would
guess
I
mean
8
15,
I'm
sorry,
you
think
7
45,
council,
garcia,
we'll
do
our
best
to
be
use
the
time
productively
and
rapidly
answer.
D
B
B
C
B
C
Head
shake:
okay,
that's
not
weather!
So
matt
we
went
through
the
petitions
from
the
floor,
mr
city
manager,
and
I
think
you
wanted
to
take
the
floor
and
then
we'll
take
the
city
attorney.
B
L
Mr
mayor
governing
body,
thank
you
very
much.
I
apologize
for
needing
to
step
out.
First,
I
want
to
flag
for
you
that
we
continue
to
have
some
ongoing
conversations
with
art
for
life
about
how
to
move
forward.
L
L
You
saw
her
briefly
tonight
sitting
in
the
front
row,
but
I
want
a
flag
if
you
have
another
chance
to
meet
yet
our
new
finance
director,
emily
oster
is
in
week
two
really
has
already
in
a
week
and
a
half
been
a
real
meaningful
contribution
and
is
providing
some
real
leadership
in
the
finance
department
and
we're
excited.
L
And
I
look
forward
for
you
meeting
her
if
you've
not
been
able
to
do
that.
Yet
beyond
that,
when
I
say
a
quick
thank
you
to
everybody
in
city
government
who
has
helped
over
the
last
few
weeks
with
all
of
the
various
fiestas
events
with
zozobra,
it
is
striking
to
me
how
much
of
a
lift
that
city
staff
provides,
and
I
found
out
the
hard
way
by
sending
out
a
thank
you
email
that
you
either
mentioned
every
single
department
by
name
or
none.
L
So
I'm
not
going
to
mention
any
by
name
but
really
the
breadth
of
the
contributions
made
by
city
staff
is
extraordinary
in
making
these
events
safe
and
successful,
particularly
in
light
of
those
over
having
a
record
crowd
and
really
seeing
a
great
response
this
last
week
into
the
fiesta's
events.
So
thank
you
to
all
city
staff
for
doing
that.
We
did
have
a
great
update
today,
as
I've
mentioned
before
our
senior
staff
meets,
or
is
yesterday.
L
Rather,
we
meet
twice
every
other
week
and
emmanuel
gonzalez's
itt
team
did
a
great
update
for
senior
staff
about
the
munis
update
that
we're
working
on
now
trying
to
work
with
senior
staff
about
what
are
the
changes
they
need
to
see
to
make
this
be
a
successful
transition
and
to
make
sure
that
the
program
works
better
for
city
government
once
we
implement
it
in
the
beginning
of
2023.
So
that
was
an
exciting
step
forward
for
us.
L
You
have
all
received
the
emails
that
I've
been
sending
out,
that
all
city
staff
are
required
to
be
taking
an
active,
shooter
training.
There
are
two
separate
classes
that
everyone's
asked
to
take
they're
online.
If
you
all
need
help
or
have
questions,
please
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
me
or
brian
williams,
about
how
to
take
those
I'll
flag
for
you
as
well.
That
senior
staff
on
friday
will
be
participating
in
a
three
hour:
active
shooter,
tabletop
exercise.
L
Again,
this
is
to
put
staff
in
a
position
of
walking
through
a
hypothetical
scenario
where
there
is
an
active
shooter
in
a
city
building.
How
do
we
handle
it?
Who
gets
called
when
who's
in
charge
of
what
etc
and
again
the
goal
is
that
we
never
have
an
unfortunate
situation
like
that,
but
that,
if
god
forbid,
it
does
happen,
that
we
are
ready
to
take
care
of
it
and
handle
it.
L
The
best
that
we
can,
if
you
have
driven
up
or
down,
set
francis
drive
at
all
in
the
last
week
or
guadalupe
near
the
national
cemetery,
you've
probably
seen
a
lot
of
the
veterans,
banners
which
are
up,
which
is
really
exciting.
L
L
I
really
would
be
remiss
if
I
didn't
thank
carmela
quintana
and
the
american
legion
leadership
for
helping
us
get
this
across
the
finish
line.
She's
been
out
there
with
personally,
with
the
crews
from
pnm
to
get
the
banners
hung.
We
are
on
cerrio's
road
now,
and
so
I
think
they
started
close
to
I-25
and
they're
working.
The
win
towards
st
michael
drive,
st
michael's
drive,
but
the
expectation
is
that
all
of
the
342
of
the
banners
will
be
up
by
friday,
and
I
can
tell
you
just
driving
up
and
down
saint
francis
drive.
L
We
recognize
that
some
of
the
banners
that
there
are
trees
nearby
or
some
limbs,
we
are
working
with
our
parks
team
to
work
to
mitigate
some
of
those
branches,
we're
not
going
to
cut
trees
down,
but
we'll
work
to
cut
things
back,
so
that
people
can
ensure
that
their
family
members
and
the
veterans
are
able
to
be
seen
as
people
drive
by
which
is
really
great
and
last
and
least
for
you
all
of
interest.
L
For
all
of
you
is
that
we
have
now
signed
the
contract
with
our
new
lobbyist,
and
I
can
tell
you
that
we
have
hired
jd
bullington
on
contract
to
represent
the
city
of
santa
fe
for
the
next
few
years.
L
He
knows
that
we're
going
to
announce
him
tonight.
He
is
so
excited
to
work
with
us,
and
I
know
that
there
are
some
questions
at
the
last
meeting
about
some
counselors
wanting
to
get
working
with
him
quickly,
both
on
icip
and
other
matters,
and
we're
going
to
work
to
get
him
on
board
as
fast
as
possible,
so
that
we
can
get
that
ball
rolling.
That's
it
for
me.
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
Thank
you,
council.
Thank
you.
City
manager,.
G
Thank
you,
mayor
weber.
Everybody
members.
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
that
we've
got
folks
appearing
in
all
sorts
of
tribunals
in
the
state.
Today
we
had
an
argument
in
front
of
the
court
of
appeals.
Marcus
martinez
argued
that,
with
richard
catnik
related
to
an
enforcement
matter
from
back
in
2015
for
an
84
tower
that
the
city
filed
an
enforcement
action
against
because
it
did
not
have
a
building
permit.
G
G
Arguments
were
good
and
it
was
exciting
to
be
back
in
the
court.
This
was
their
only
their
second
in-person
hearing
in
santa
fe
this
year.
They
said
at
least
those
judges,
and
then
I
would
like
us
to
go
into
executive
session
for
discussion
of
a
few
different
cases.
G
This
is
pursuant
to
the
open
meetings
act,
section,
10,
15,
1,
part,
h7,
attorney,
client,
privilege,
discussions
regarding
threatened
and
pending
litigation
in
which
the
city
of
santa
fe
is
or
may
become,
a
participant,
including
united
states,
supreme
court
case
united
states,
v,
texas
and
first
judicial
district
course,
cases,
union,
protective
versus
city
of
santa
fe
and
mayor
allen,
weber,
an
enterprise
bank
and
trust
versus
city
of
santa
fe
versus
the
city
of
santa
fe
and
santa
fe
county.
D
D
B
F
C
We
will
do
our
best
to
get
back
as
the
people
who
are
waiting
for
the
hearing,
so
they're
not
sitting
or
stranded
for
for
too
long.
We've
got
three
items
to
take
up
and
we'll
go
through
them
expeditiously.
C
D
Q
B
C
B
R
F
C
F
Yes,
item:
13
a
is
an
executive
session
action
item,
it's
approval
to
join
the
county
of
los
angeles
and
other
local
governments
in
support
of
the
federal
government
in
the
united
states,
supreme
court
case,
united
states
versus
texas
case
number
22-58
in
defense
of
the
september
30th
2021
civil
immigration
enforcement
priorities,
guidance
issued
by
the
biden
administration
prioritizing
the
removal
of
non-citizens
who
are
a
threat
to
national
security
who
have
recently
arrived
at
the
border
and
who
have
committed
certain
crimes.
B
B
B
E
C
G
C
F
F
Yes,
item:
18:
a
is
public
comment
on
bills.
This
is
our
first
public
comment
with
no
action.
This
is
consideration
of
bill
number
2022,
sponsored
by
council
council
sponsored
by
councillor
garcia.
F
Electric
bicycle
amending
section,
12-8-10
of
the
uto
to
regulate
and
establish
a
speed
limit
for
electric
and
manually
propelled,
bicycles
on
city
sidewalks,
amending
section
12-8-15
of
the
uto
to
remove
the
prohibition
for
bicycles
to
ride
on
a
street
adjacent
to
a
sidewalk
four
path.
When
bicycles
are
required
to
use
the
sidewalk
or
street.
F
Creating
a
new
section
12-8-18
of
the
uto
to
make
it
an
offense
to
enhance
the
speed
capabilities
of
an
electric
bicycle,
amending
section,
12-8-23
of
the
uto,
to
raise
the
maximum
fine
for
violations
of
certain
provisions
from
twenty
five
dollars
to
one
hundred
dollars
and
amending
sfcc
1987,
section
23-5.1
to
amend
the
definition
of
bicycle,
to
include
electric
bicycles
and
to
regulate
the
use
of
an
electric
bicycle
on
city
roads.
This
is
a
staff,
for
this
is
romella
our
project,
administration,
administrator
and
kevin.
Our
assistant
city
attorney.
C
Thank
you,
counselor
garcia.
This
is
your
bill.
You
want
to
give
us.
You
get
the
honor
of
giving
us
a
pricey.
A
Sure
I
think,
madam.
B
A
Clerk
went
through
it
pretty
well,
just
this
is
amending
our
city
ordinance
to
include
e-bikes,
given
that
e-bikes
is
a
mode
of
transportation
that
is
here
to
stay,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
as
a
city
are
we've
got
regulations
in
place
to
ensure
that
folks
are
operating
e-bikes
in
a
safe
manner
and.
C
C
H
C
H
H
For
final
passage,
there
is
another
opportunity
for
public
comment
so
that
you
know
maybe
it's
changed
in
the
course
of
its
travel
through
the
standing
committees
and,
of
course
the
public
can
always
write
to
the
counselors
about
what
they
think
about
a
particular
bill
in
the
time
period
from
when
it's
introduced
until
final
passage,
and
even
after
so
just
to
be
clear
about
the
many
many
ways
that
we
engage
and
hear
from
the
public.
Thank
you
mayor.
C
Thank
you
and
appreciate
the
walk
through.
Yes,
madam
clerk.
F
All
right
mayor,
mr
erica.
O
Great
mayor
councillors,
my
name
is
eric
oboe,
I
I
live
at
36
made
the
aluna,
I'm
not
a
city
resident,
but
I
live
in
a
county.
I
am
supporting
this
bill,
the
in
new
mexico,
the
the
status
of
e-bikes
is
unclear.
O
They
are
not
defined
and,
although
legislation
has
has
been
previously
presented
to
to
define,
e-bikes
e-bikes
are
not
defined.
Therefore,
an
e-bike
which
you
probably
have
seen
around
town
e-bikes
are,
can
be
considered
by
some
to
be
a
motor
vehicle
of
requiring
a
license
and
registration,
although
that
is
not
the
state
of
the
world.
Essentially,
the
laws
have
not
kept
up
with
the
technology.
There
are
roughly
seven
local
bike
shops
in
town
and
five
of
them
sell
e-bikes.
O
One
of
them
does
not
sell
e-bikes,
however,
they
assemble
e-bikes
that
are
sold
online
and
and
folks
are
not
comfortable
in
assembling
them
themselves.
O
This
is
something
that
is
a
technology
that
is
probably
here
to
stay,
and
it
would
be
good
to
to
bring
a
law
in
the
city
that
is
commensurate
with
the
laws
in
rough
in
over
half
the
states,
and
so
essentially
what
this
does
is
says.
It
says
that
an
e-bike
which
is
basically
a
a
elect
electrically
assisted
bicycle,
but
it
must
have
pedals
and
e-bike,
should
be
treated
as
a
bicycle,
and
there
are
conditions
in
this
proposed
ordinance
that
that
would
limit
the
use.
So
I
I'm
supportive
of
this.
O
I
think
that
this
is
something
that
you
will
see
more
and
more
of
you
probably
have
seen
them
around
town.
You
will
see
more
and
more
of
as
the
as
the
years
go
by
thanks
very
much
for
the
opportunity
to
comment.
Thank
you
very.
C
O
B
Or
include
them
in
traffic
law,
so
what
we
wanted
to
do
was
make
sure
that
our
ordinance
is
consistent
with
those
of
other
states
that
limits
the
power
of
these
bicycles
as
class,
one
two
and
three,
as
it's
done
in
other
municipalities
and
states
and
as
recommended
by
organizations
such
as
people
for
bikes,
so
we're
trying
to
get
out
ahead
of
any
problems
by
carefully
defining
what
they
are,
how
they
can't
be
modified
to
suit
them
up
and
where
they
can
be
used
safely.
So
we
work
pretty
hard
on
this
on
the
b-pack.
F
Yes,
the
next
item
is
19a
its
final
action
on
legislation.
This
does
also
have
a
public
hearing.
This
is
consideration
of
bill
number
2022-17
sponsored
by
councilwoman
via
rael
and
councillor
rivera.
It's
an
ordinance
amending
sfcc,
1987,
section
23-5.1
to
add
definitions
for
cultural
event
and
small
commercial
event,
and
amending
sfcc
1987
section
23-5.2
to
allow
up
to
eight
commercial
permits
for
cultural
events
on
the
plaza,
including
juneteenth
pride
indigenous
people's
day
and
five
additional
events
selected
by
lottery,
melissa
mcdonald,
our
parks
division
director
is
available
for
this
item.
E
Absolutely
thank
you
mayor.
Thank
you
all
of
you
that
are
here
waiting
for
us
for
this
item.
I
appreciate
that
you
waited
this
long.
I
am
going
to
just
give
a
little
context,
some
history
and
background
and
then
where
we
are
today
and
then
what
we're
actually
considering.
C
E
Today's
meeting
or
tonight's
meeting
and
first
I'm
just
going
to
just
give
you
a
little
bit
about
how
this
change
on
the
plaza
park
events
ordinance
came
about,
and
for
those
of
you
I
think
I've
talked
about
this.
Some
folks
know
about
the
plaza
cultural
landscape
report
from
2005,
which
provides
a
history
of
the
historic
plaza
and
its
many
iterations
and
uses
of
the
plaza.
It's
been
varied
and
diverse
through
history,
however,
the
character
historic
to
the
plaza
has
always
remained
the
same.
E
It's
been
primarily
for
social
and
em
and
economic
purposes,
essentially
for
commerce,
goods
and
services
have
always
been
sold
and
exchanged
on
the
plaza,
both
formally
and
informally
for
hundreds
of
years,
and
in
that
same
cultural
landscape
report,
it
also
states
about
the
plaza
and
the
plaza
park,
and
I
quote
the
plaza
and
the
plaza
park
are
the
heart
of
the
city.
Its
usage
should
be
creative,
evolving
and
non-institutionalized.
E
Standards
should
encourage
variety,
equity
and
usage
and
regulations
and
respect
for
the
important
role,
the
plaza
and
the
plaza
park
play
in
the
life
of
santa
fe,
and
I
bring
that
up,
because
this
is
really
the
essence
of
changes
that
have
been
requested
from
community
members
about
what
they
can
and
cannot
do.
In
the
plaza
and
over
the
years
I've
been
on
council
we've
had
various
existing
cultural
events
held
on
the
plaza
park
and
they've
had
a
desire
to
incorporate
vendors
to
enhance
the
event
and
to
support
the
entrepreneurial
spirit
associated
with
that
cultural
event.
E
It's
also
been
particularly
expressed
by
event
organizers,
that
makers
and
artisans
have
really
been
hit
hard
by
the
pandemic.
The
plaza
event
section
of
the
ordinance
as
it
stands
didn't
ever
allow
vendors,
except
for
the
eight
major
events
that
were
listed
so
small
events
couldn't
even
sell
t-shirts
or
memorabilia
without
making
a
change
to
the
current
ordinance.
E
So
in
working
with
city
staff,
we
crafted
draft
language
to
allow
for
small
commercial
event
permits
for
cultural
events,
on
the
plaza
with
limitations,
and
there
was
a
first
iteration
there's
actually
been
a
couple
of
iterations,
but
the
iteration
and
the
the
version
that
we're
looking
at
tonight
that
actually
has
been
amended
initially
allowed
for
eight
existing
cultural
events.
That
would
be
able
to
have
small
commercial
event
permits
on
the
plaza
and
with
changes
and
feedback
from
various
stakeholders.
E
There
was
another
amendment
and
essentially
it
explicitly
named
three
existing
cultural
events
that
would
be
allowed
for
small
commercial
event
permits
specifically
indigenous
people's
day
juneteenth
and
pride,
and
then
five
slots
would
be
selected
by
lottery.
So
I've
done
considerable
outreach
with
various
stakeholders.
E
Also
from
my
colleagues,
we
did
make
essentially
changes
to
what
was
what
we're
going
to
be
voting
on
tonight
and
while
I
would
have
liked
to
see
the
five
lottery
slots
allowed
for
cultural
events
to
get
permits,
I
realized
compromise
should
happen
and
can
happen
in
order
to
realize
small
incremental
changes
for
our
plaza
and
events
on
the
plaza,
and
I
think
councilwoman
cast
its
amendment,
which
eliminates
the
lottery
option
for
the
five
unnamed
permits
and
instead
allows
one
hundred
square
foot
contiguous
commute
commercial
space
for
all
other
cultural
events.
E
C
D
Woman
in
did
a
great
job,
but
I'll
wait
to
thank
people
as
well
and
let's
get
going.
C
Okay,
is
there
anything
the
staff
wants
to
add
at
this
point
before
we
turn
to
the
public?
No,
I'm
taking
that
as
a
no
all
right.
If
this
is
an
item
that
you
came
to
speak
to
again,
apologies
for
making
you
wait
so
long.
This
is
the
time
to
get
into
a
some
line
or
format.
So
you
can
have
an
opportunity
to
testify
on
the
measure
and
the
city
clerk
will
be
the
time
keeper
of
people
as
they
speak
right
city
clerk,
adam
clerk,
you're,
going
to
be
the
time
keeper.
Madam
clerk.
B
C
So
I
think
you
can
just
line
up
and
we're.
I
know
you've
waited
a
long
time
and
I'm
sorry
to
limit
your
your
opportunity
to
speak,
but
we
typically
try
to
keep
it
to
two
minutes.
If
you
can
do
that,
madam
clerk
and
there's
people
there's
the
clock
over
there.
If
you
want
to
track
it,
are
there
people
on
zoom
who
also
want
to
speak
to
this,
so
we'll
have
to
go.
Can
we
see
their
faces
when
the
clock
is
up
too
perfect
name
and
address?
Please,
and
but
mike
is
yours.
J
My
name
is
cindy
hall.
I
live
at
14
alamo
drive
in
santa
fe
good
evening,
everyone-
I
am
the
vice
chair
of
the
santa
fe
indigenous
center
and
director
of
manitoba
galleries
in
santa
fe,
and
I
can
in
downtown
and
on
canyon
road,
I'm
speaking
to
express
my
support
in
favor
of
the
proposal
proposal
for
ordinance
changes
to
the
plaza
events
ordinance
this
evening.
J
It's
important
for
santa
fe
to
acknowledge,
support
and
observe
many
different
cultural
events
during
the
year
to
encourage
inclusivity
in
our
community.
The
people
of
santa
fe
represent
cultures
from
all
over
the
world
and
have
for
hundreds
of
years,
starting
with
the
original
ancestral
people
of
oke
pogue.
The
plaza
has
been
a
center
for
commerce
for
as
long
as
this
area
has
been
documented
and
belongs
to
the
people
of
santa
fe,
not
just
the
downtown
merchants,
and
not
just
the
tourists.
J
This
is
less
a
discussion
about
small
commerce.
Then
it
is
a
matter
of
representation.
You
wouldn't
move
fiestas
to
wreagle
park
or
girls
inc
craft
fair
to
bicentennial.
Why?
Because
only
people
directly
invested
in
that
event
would
attend,
and
the
point
of
these
events
is
to
show
people
we
are
here.
J
H
P
Japanese
chin
hi,
my
name
is
milan
hall,
I'm
an
enrolled
member
of
the
navajo
nation,
as
well
as
the
student
of
the
santa
fe
indian
school,
a
missing
and
murdered
indigenous
women
and
relatives
task
force.
Member
for
the
state
of
new
mexico,
as
well
as
the
vice
president
of
the
mayor's
youth
advisory
board.
I
am
speaking
in
support
of
councillor
v.a
royale's
proposal
for
ordinance
changes
to
the
plaza
events
ordinance
to
allow
for
small
commercial
event
permits
specifically
for
juneteenth
pride
and
indigenous
people's
day,
as
these
are
all
impactful.
P
For
myself,
for
myself,
specifically,
I
have
both
been
impacted
by
and
seen
my
community
be
impacted
by
the
acknowledgement
of
indigenous
peoples
day
native
communities
come
together
to
celebrate
our
existence
through
a
city-wide
event,
native
people,
sell
goods,
foods,
jewelry,
etc.
All
of
the
indigenous
goods
you
can
imagine
by
allowing
us
a
permit.
You
are
both
allowing
the
citizens
of
santa
fe
to
support
native
owned
business,
but
also
allowing
the
celebration
and
appreciation
of
santa
fe's
large
native
population.
P
As
for
pride,
the
lgbtq
plus
people
of
santa
fe
to
make
a
profit
and
commemorate
on
this
annual
event.
This
once
a
year
opportunity
allows
lgbtq
plus
people
to
be
supported
and
feel
welcomed
by
the
community
of
new
mexico,
but
specifically
santa
fe.
All
of
these
events
allow
those
who
are
often
silenced
a
voice.
Please
allow
event
permits
to
ensure
you
are
supporting
your
entire,
widely
diverse
community
here
in
santa
fe.
Thank
you.
B
Good
evening,
everyone
good
evening,
mayor
mayor
pro
tem
and
counselors,
my
name
is
kevin
bowen,
I'm
the
president
of
the
human
rights
alliance
in
santa
fe.
We
put
on
the
annual
pride
celebration
every
year
in.
O
B
J
B
Are
a
state,
that's
diverse,
a
state
that
recognizes
its
heritage.
It
recognizes
sometimes
now
at
times
things
we've
done
wrong
and
how
we
can
correct
those.
You
all
have
just
undertaken
the
chart
process,
which
still
has
no
complete
conclusion
that
I
have
seen
yet
and,
as
I
see
it,
including
these
events,
these
cultural
events
as
part
of
the
makeup
of
our
city,
is
part
of
the
process
of
healing
and
is
very
important.
J
Good
evening,
mayor
and
council,
thank
you
so
much.
My
name
is
bridget
dixon,
I'm
the
president,
ceo
of
the
santa
fe
chamber
of
commerce,
and
I'm
here
this
evening,
because
I
want
to
just
once
again
to
say
that
I
support
the
ordinance
that's
been
proposed.
Initially,
when
the
ordinance
had
come
out.
There
were
several
areas
that
the
business
community
did
not
agree
with,
and
I
really
want
to
commend
our
city
councillors
for
reaching
giving
us
the
opportunity
to
speak
and
express
what
our
concerns
are
and
going
back
to
the
drawing
table
and
really
addressing
that.
J
One
of
the
biggest
concerns
we
had
was
really
just
the
impact
that
he
was
going
to
have
on
our
downtown
retailers.
Our
merchants.
You
know
case
in
point
when
we
had
indian
market.
Several
of
our
merchants
were
closed
because
of
the
event
on
the
plaza
and
I
was
really
concerned,
it
was
going
to
directly
impact
all
of
them,
so
I
just
want
to
commend
you
on
the
work
that
you've
done
and
thank
you
for
the
transparency
and
given
the
business
community,
the
opportunity
to
express
our
feelings
on
this.
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
J
My
name
is
claudia
chavez,
I'm
with
the
city
of
santa
fe,
plaza
artisan
program.
I
want
to
thank
councillors,
lee
garcia
casa,
romero,
worth
lindell
brielle,
michael
garcia
and
chris
rivera
for
meeting
with
me
answering
my
questions
and
just
speaking
with
our
group
in
general.
As
a
native
of
santa
fe,
I
have
a
deep
appreciation
for
the
culture
of
trade
and
vending
on
the
plaza.
My
grandpa
was
a
plaza
vendor.
He
gave
horse
rides
to
tourists
back
in
the
30s
and
40s.
J
He
also
sold
wood
and
meat
and
traded
for
fruit
and
veggies
with
the
farmers
from
up
north.
My
great
great
great
grandfathers
had
a
butcher
shop
on
the
plaza
where
the
muluf
gallery
is
now.
I
enjoy
all
of
the
events
that
have
taken
place
throughout
the
years.
I've
made
many
friends
through
these
events.
Events
are
not
the
issue
throughout
this
process.
I
have
continually
asked
that
the
arts
and
crafts
to
be
sold
would
be
handmade
so
far.
J
None
of
the
show
promoters
have
come
forward
to
say
that
they
will
have
handmade
art
now
that
these
events
are
grandfathered
in,
they
should
have
enough
time
to
jury.
The
art
also
with
so
many
worthy
organizations
in
our
city,
fire
events
such
as
low
rider
day,
world
dance
festival
or
toys
for
tots
excluded.
J
I
hope
that
the
rules
and
regulations
will
require
handmade
arts
and
crafts
with
the
artists
present
at
their
booth.
Please
ensure
that
these
commercial
events
will
not
turn
the
plaza
into
a
flea
market
setting
and
please
keep
with
the
high
standards
and
quality
that
people
from
around
the
world
come
to
santa
fe.
To
expect.
C
B
Hello,
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
sir
hi?
How
is
everyone
doing
thanks
for
having
me?
My
name
is
roshan
ahmad,
I'm
actually
one
of
the
leaders
who
throws
juneteenth
on
the
plaza.
Oh
I'm
also
in
district
one.
B
I
think
I
needed
to
say
that
I'm
currently
moving,
which
is
why
I'm
not
there,
but
I
did
want
to
call
in
and
just
voice
my
support
for
this
ordinance
to
allow
for
small
commercial
events
specifically
for
indigenous
day
indigenous
peoples,
day,
juneteenth
and
pride,
and
just
wanted
to
say
that
bringing
this
scope
of
culture
to
the
events
means
so
much
as
one
of
the
folks
who
drove
juneteenth.
I
know
how
much
this
means
to
our
african-american
community
in
santa
fe
to
feel
seen
a
part
of
the
city.
It's
really
important,
so
yeah.
B
I
just
wanted
to
voice
my
support
and
also
just
thank
everyone
for
their
hard
work
on
this,
specifically
counselor
vitriol,
and
also
just
talking
to
all
the
other
folks
involved.
I
know
it's
been
a
whole
lot.
O
Of
hard
work
and
going
back
and
forth,
but
it's
really
good.
It
feels
really
good
to
know
that
there's
some
common
ground
found
with
not
only
the
other
counselors.
B
C
Very
good,
then
we'll
come
back
to
the
governing
body.
I
would
entertain
a
motion
at
this
time.
Q
C
And
we
have
a
second:
is
there
a
discussion
of
the
motion
on
the
table,
which
is
to
approve
the
version
that
was
amended
and
brought
forward
with
those
amendments?
Council.
Q
Mr
mayor,
I
just
want
to
confirm
with
staff
that
with
that
motion
we
have
that
all
the
amendments
are
in
place
to
approve
what
we
discussed
at
finance
committee,
which
is
the
three
named
events
and
then
any
other
cultural
event
allowing
a
100
square
foot
contiguous
commercial
space.
K
C
H
H
K
Mr
mayor,
I
also
remember
where
that
was
in
an
oversight.
I
think
when
we
were
drafting
the
amendments
that
shouldn't
read
three
and
I
have
an
amendment
drafted
to
make
that
change.
H
G
Hey
robert
counselors,
I
think
we've
noticed
this
a
few
different
ways
because
we've
published
a
newspaper
a
few
different
ways
with
different
captions.
So
I
guess
there's
the
reason.
I'm
throwing
my
brows
because
there's
various
issues
essentially
being
put
out
here.
May
river
council
romerworth
jesse.
G
Are
you
saying
there's
a
pending
amendment
that
hasn't
been
introduced
yet
okay?
So
there
may
be
a
pending
amendment
in
your
packet,
then
there's
some
other
issues.
The
caption
does
reflect.
I
think
your
prior
version
of
the
bill.
I
think
the
governing
body
needs
to
make
a
decision
as
to
whether
that
puts
the
public
on
proper
notice
or
not.
G
There
are,
does
mayweather
council
remember
jesse.
Does
the
pending
amendment
impact
the
caption
as
well.
G
G
G
H
G
G
Is
the
bill,
however,
under
our
rules,
the
bill
would
be
the
version
of
the
original
proposed
bill,
as
amended
by
committee.
Up
until
this
point,
okay.
H
So
there
are
two
amendments
that
were
in
finance
so
which
there's
a
cassette
amendment
and
a
vrael
amendment,
which
is
the
which
is
the
final
version
of
the
bill.
That's
before
us
tonight.
H
G
H
Q
Yes,
I
can
answer
that
question,
so
finance
was
the
last
stop.
My
amendment
at
finance
did
remove
part
of
councilwoman
vitorial's
amendment
from
quality
of
life,
so
essentially
what
what
my
amendment
at
finance
did
because
councilwoman
vitoria's,
I
think,
an
initial
amendment.
H
Q
B
G
Q
The
additional
amendment
that
I
believe
jesse
was
going
to
pull
up,
as
this
was
just
discovered
very
recently,
would
be
just
amending
the
caption
to
accurately
reflect
the
amendments
that
were
passed
in
finance
committee.
So
it
would
be
amending,
I
think,
up
to
from
8
to
3
in
the
caption
on
line
13.
So
it
would
read
and
amending
sfcc
1987
section
23-5.2
to
allow
up
to
three
small
commercial
permits
for
cultural
events
on
the
plaza,
including
juneteenth
pride
indigenous
people's
day.
H
Q
C
G
Q
My
understanding
is
that
staff
will
recognize
the
oversight
very
recently,
probably
while
we
were
in
executive
session
and
that
this
was
something
that
had
to
be
changed
in
order
for
the
in
order
for
the
caption
to
accurately
reflect
the
content
of
the
bill,
how
we
passed
it
as
amended
in
finance
committee.
Q
Q
I
accurately
state
the
question
in
front
of
us
at
this
moment.
Whatever.
G
Counselors,
I
think
that's
right,
so
I
didn't
that.
Thank
you
for
that
help.
So
I
think
it
is
a
judgment.
Call.
C
We
can
amend
the
cat,
so
the
judgment
is
between
this.
We
can
amend
the
caption
so
that
it
accurately
reflects
the
amendments
that
came
through
at
the
end
in
finance
and
vote
on
it
or
we
can
amend
it
and
or
not
vote
on
it
tonight,
but
amend
its
so
that
it
accurately
and
then
notice
it.
So
it
accurately
reflects
the
the
amendments
that
were
passed
most
recently
through
finance.
Those
are
the
those
are
the
choice.
That's
the
choice
in
front
of
us.
E
Thank
you
mayor,
I'm
just
clarifying
counselor
cassette.
I
thought
your
amendment
actually
amended
the
caption.
Q
Q
Recording
error
that
has
occurred,
so
that
is,
I
believe,
what
we
are
dealing
with
at
the
moment
that
when
we
did,
when
we
did
vote
on
it
in
finance,
it
should
have
amended
the
caption,
which
is
why
we
actually
should
have
been
passing
this
last
governing
body
meeting.
But
we
did
delay
it
till
today.
G
Q
And-
and
it
looks
like
when
you
look
at
the
amendment
sheet,
we
did
miss
the
caption
on
the
amendment
sheet
as
well.
Q
So
that
was
how
I
that
we
basically
undid
the
quality
of
life,
amendments
with
the
finance
amendment,
and
so
we
undid
those
and
then
in
writing
the
amendment
we
forgot
to
also
then
put
in.
Not
only
did
we
go
from
five
to
six,
then
we
needed
to
go
from
six
to
three
six
to
zero
you're
right.
It
would
have
been
six
to
zero
and
then
it
should
have
been
eight
to
three.
That
is
where
that
is
what
we
missed.
G
E
Mr
mayor,
I'm
just
pointing
out
a
fact:
we
delayed
this
a
month,
so
we
could
get
it
right
tonight
and
we
did
not
get
it
right
and
there's
only
so
much
a
counselor
can
do
to
track
their
legislation.
We
know
our
amendments
and
the
thing
that's
making
it
confusing.
Is
this
whole
new
procedural
role?
I
hate
to
say
it,
but
the
procedural
rule
where
it
attaches
at
a
committee
and
then
moves
on
to
the
next
one,
and
then
we
make
amendments.
That's
not
clear
and
again.
This
is
this.
E
Level
and
what
doesn't
and
it's
frustrating
for
those
of
us
that
work
really
hard
on
amendments
with
community
members
and
making
sure
that
they
get
into
the
the
packet
material.
I
even
asked
us
today:
how
do
we
explain
so
that
everybody
knows
what
version
we
are
voting
on,
that
it
has
all
the
amendments.
E
E
H
To
your
point,
the
problem
I
see
is
that
I
don't
know
what
caption
was
noticed
was
it
noticed
the
way
it
currently
stands?
Yes,
and
if
it
was,
it
seems
to
me
that
we
can't
our
general
rule
has
been
that
the
caption
has
to
accurately
reflect
the
bill.
H
H
H
What
we're
saying
is
the
title
of
the
bill
was
not
ever
changed
anywhere
in
the
committee
process
to
accurately
reflect
the
amendments
that
basically
were
made
in
finance,
so
there's
no
real
need
to
go
back
and
adopt
everything,
because
it's
there,
what
we
have,
what
we
don't
have
is
the
fact
is
a
title
reflecting
the
changes,
and
then
we
have
the
further
problem
of.
I
don't
know
what
was
noticed
to
the
public.
I
A
We
propose
the
amendment
we
take
their
stance
through
a
vote.
I
think
there's
one
just
to
bring
it
to
the
governing
body's
attention.
There's
one
last
amendment
that
would
need
to
be
made
that
I'm
change
that's
not
reflected,
which
is
on
page
seven
line.
Four.
It
still
has
eight
events
and
that
would
need
to
be
changed
to
three.
A
A
C
B
C
F
Mayor
actually
was
noticed
twice
already
with
different
captions,
but
it
was
not
noticed
after
the
amendments
to
reduce
it
to
the
three.
So
it.
C
S
Thank
you,
mayor,
counselor,
villarreal
and
consular
rivera,
the
sponsors
of
this.
I
sympathize
with
this
tremendously,
but-
and
I
support
this-
the
way
that
that
we've
amended
it
and
done
it.
However,
again
procedurally
tonight.
S
I
don't
want
to
vote
against
this.
I
want
to
vote
for
it,
but
it
was
improperly
noticed
and
I
don't
think
that
it's
proper
for
us
to
vote
on
it
tonight.
I
don't
know
what
else
to
say
about
this.
It's
I.
I
think
that
the
council
does
support
this,
but
we
have
rules
and
procedures
that
I
think
were
bound
to,
and
I
don't
support
voting
on
this
tonight
until
we
get
it
right.
B
H
C
C
Doesn't
convey
the
extent
to
which
I
share
your
frustration,
my
my
words
will
this
is
it's.
You
know
it's
hard
to
look
at
something
when
the
top
of
it's
wrong
and
everything
else
has
been
amended
correctly.
I
think
we
ought
to
delay
it.
One
more
time
fix
the
top
vote
on
it.
I
think
it's
a
absolute
slam
dunk
to
get
it
done,
but
to
risk.
Somebody
saying
you
didn't
observe
your
own
processes
in
the
order
in
the
in
the
interest
of
haste
or
you
know
just
to
get
it
done.
Q
Well,
I
I
just
I
want
to
apologize,
because
when
I
reviewed
the
red
line,
I
didn't
read
the
caption,
and
so
I
titled
thank
you,
and
so
I
do
want
to
apologize
that
I
just
jumped
into
the
body
and
missed
that
what
I
am
concerned
about
is
counselor.
Garcia
is
correct
that
there
was
one
other
area,
and
I
know
one
of
the
problems
that
I
had
when
I
was
reviewing.
Q
Q
I
think
we
do
need
to
get
this
correct
tonight
and
I
would
ask
that
potentially,
we
move
on
and
come
back
to
this
and
if
jesse
is
able
to
really
go
through
this
and
make
sure
we
have
hit
every
single
place
during
that
time
that
we
are
moving
on
to
other
pieces,
because
I
would
hate
for
us
to
delay
this
come
back
in
two
weeks
and
still
be
sitting
there
with
this
being
completely
incorrect,
so
or
not
completely
incorrect,
but
inc.
Q
Correct
in
certain
places,
I
think
that
that
is
the
only
other
one
where
we
missed
the
mark.
I
did
read
through
it
earlier
today,
but
I
am
now
a
little
paranoid,
so
I
would
prefer
that
we
may
be
if
jesse's
able
to
go
through
it
with
a
fine-tooth
comb
over
the
next.
C
C
B
C
C
E
We
need
to
figure
out
what
on
page
7
line.
4
needs
to
be.
This
is
under
cassettes.
This
is
under
counselor
kasich's
amendment,
not
mine.
This
should
have
been
taken
out
because
then
it
contradicts
what
she
was
trying
to
do.
I
checked
all
mine
and
I
want
to
double
check
them,
but
I
checked
them
today
and
all
of
the
ones
that
I
that
passed
through
quality
of
life
and
finance
are
in
here
in
the
red
line.
E
Q
Just
just
a
quick
recommendation,
my
the
things
that
are
on
my
amendment
sheet
are
correct,
but
there
are
other
pieces
in
the
bill.
So
if
there's
anything
else
again,
just
a
request
to
jesse
as
he's
going
through
this,
if
there's
anything
else
from
your
amendment,
that
was
not
properly
captured
to
make
sure
that,
if
I
think
yours
was
was
it
only
in
one
spot,
though
correct.
E
E
Some
of
them
are
partial.
Now,
because
what
counselor
cassette
amended
changed
mine,
not
all
of
it.
So
what
my
questioning
was
like?
How
do
we
make
sure
what
I
passed
and
that
went
through
the
committee
and
got
passed,
doesn't
contradict
for
one?
What
counselor
cassette
propose
and
to
make
sure
that
they're
they're
aligned?
E
And
what
can
we
look
at
to
make
sure
that
we
can
distinguish
that?
There's
nothing
to
look
at
like
what
attorney
make
sure
he
said
what
a
revo,
which
version
are
we
voting
on?
Well
we're
voting
on
the
original
one
that
did
have
well,
it
initially
had
eight,
I
amended
it
to
six.
I
mean
that's
why
it's
really
hard
with
these
attachments
of
of
amendments
that
we
don't
actually
get
to
see.
What
was
the
final,
how
the
final
bill
looks
with
its
amendments.
C
H
So
you
have
to
take
the
original
bill
and
all
its
amendments
I
mean
the
red
line
is
just
jesse
trying
to
help
us
see
how
it
all
looks
and
in
fact
it
did
help
us,
because
we
were
able
to
see
that
there
were
amendments
that
should
have
been
made
to
reflect
what
we
wanted
now
again
there's
an
additional
problem
here,
which
is,
I
think
it
has
to
be
noticed.
So
my
question
to
the
city
clerk.
I
think
that
delays
it
more
than
two
weeks
isn't
that
correct
or
how?
How
long?
F
Because
mayor
webber,
counselor
mayor
worth,
you
are
correct,
there's
a
15-day
notice
requirement.
However,
it's
a
four-day
delay
for
it
to
be
posted
into
the
newspaper,
which
is
why
to
councilwoman
via
rael's
point.
The
original
caption
was
postponed
because
we
had
to
re-notice
the
second
time.
There
was
an
amendment.
H
Right
because
of
the
four
days
and
the
two
week
15
days,
it
won't
make
it
by
the
end
of
the
month.
So
just
I
guess
to
answer
councilwoman
via
rail's
question
about
what
we
need
to
do.
We
need
to
change
the
bill
tonight
and
then
it
needs
to
be
noticed
properly
again,
and
I
I
I
I'm
sorry
I
I
this
is
horrible
and
I
too
am
yeah.
We
can
talk
about
this
but
anyway
in
terms
of
what
we
need
to
do.
C
Q
Mr
mayor
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
to
put
this
on
the
table
and
move
on
to
other
business,
to
allow
staff
the
opportunity
to
make
sure
that
it
is
amended
property
properly
and
reflects.
Q
G
Mayor
webber
counselor,
just
to
clarify
tabling
just
means
to
put
it
aside
for
the
time
being
during
the
meeting,
and
then
we
can
move
to
take
it
off
the
table
later
in
the
meeting,
which
is
distinct
from
a
motion
to
postpone.
So
we
haven't
addressed
that
issue
yet
or
that
motion
is
not
pending
at
this.
B
B
F
C
F
Sorry
mayor
the
city
tree
and
I
are
trying
to
work
through
some
additional
solutions
for
this
evening.
So
moving
on
to
item
20a
is
request
for
approval
of
the
2021
2022
consolidated
annual
performance
evaluation
report,
the
caper
for
submittal
to
the
united
states,
department
of
housing
and
urban
development
hud
as
a
condition
of
the
city's
community
development
block
grant,
and
this
is
being
presented
tonight
by
cody
minich
from
our
office
of
affordable
housing.
C
Very
good:
this
is
also
a
public
hearing.
Cody
do
you
want
to
give
us
an
overview,
and
then
we
will
go
to
a
public
hearing
and
then
turn
it
over
to
the
governing
body.
M
Mr
mayor
councillors,
sorry
it's
a
little
tense
in
here,
so
let
me
cheer
you
all
up
with
this
presentation.
H
B
M
Roll
without
it
so
as
you
all
know
that
the
city
has
three
conditions.
M
The
city
has
three
conditions
to
receive
our
cwg
entitlement
award
from
hud
every
year,
first
being
a
five-year
consolidated
plan,
the
second,
an
annual
action
plan
that
we
submit
every
year
and
the
final
one
is
the
caper,
the
consolidated
annual
performance
and
evaluation
report,
which
evaluates
our
annual
action
plan
in
terms
of
expenditures
and
program
outcomes.
M
I've
broken
it
up
into
these
funding,
buckets
the
first
line
item
being
the
public
services
activities
which
includes
interfaith
shelters,
women's
summer,
safe
haven,
youth,
shelters
and
family
services,
transitional
living
and
street
outreach
program
and
santa
fe
public
schools
adelante
program
in
total.
They
received
92
six
dollars
and
they
had
a
balance
of
two
thousand
two
hundred
and
twenty
dollars,
and
that
was
on
adelante's
program.
M
The
reason
is,
there
was
a
fourth
public
services
activity
that
was
cancelled
earlier
this
year
and
it
was
reallocated
so
they
weren't
quite
able
to
spend
that
all
down
they
proposed
to
serve
980,
but
they
actually
served
a
thousand
sixty-three
that
the
breakdown
of
that
is
interfaith's
women's
summer,
safe
haven
provided
services
and
shelter
beds
to
112
women
and
their
children,
youth,
shelters,
transitional,
living
and
straight
outreach
programs
provided
beds,
case
management,
outreach
services
and
referrals
to
96
homeless
or
at
risk
of
homelessness.
M
Youth
and
adelante
served
855
homeless
students
and
their
families
by
providing
referrals
to
housing
resources,
as
well
as
assistance
with
counseling
education,
food
and
clothing
and
855
is
just
what
we
record
and
report
to
hud.
But
the
actual
number
is
more
like
2614,
because
their
program
reaches
far
more
depending
on
how
many
people
are
in
the
household
and
they
receive
resources.
And
things
like
that.
M
M
The
next
line
item:
how
is
homeowner
housing
rehabilitated?
That's
a
hundred
grand
that
went
to
santa
fe
habitat
for
humanity's
home
repair
program.
They
had
a
little
bit
of
money
left
on
the
table,
14
366.
M
as
part
of
our
practice,
the
beginning
of
the
fourth
quarter.
We
reach
out
to
all
our
grantees
and
ask
them
about
what
their
remaining
balance
is
and
if
they
intend
to
expend
it
if
they
need
an
amendment
to
extend
the
term
in
april,
they
had
a
balance
of
56
000
and
I
think
they
just
had
trouble
getting
the
word
out.
In
april,
the
program
manager,
fred
stanley
developed
some
brochures
and
ran
an
ad
in
newspaper.
M
They
drew
down
at
a
much
faster
rate
since
then,
their
initial
proposed
service
20,
but
they
reached
14
households.
M
The
next
line
item
we
had
to
break
down
into
two
sections,
so
direct
financial
assistance
to
home
buyers,
which
is
our
down
payment
assistant
loans,
homewise
received
a
grant
of
300
grand,
but
they
weren't
able
to
touch
it
because
home
wise
in
the
housing
trust
generated
a
lot
of
program
income
in
the
last
year,
the
housing
market
being,
as
it
was,
incentivized
homeowners
to
sell
or
refinance,
in
which
case
they
had
to
repay
those
loans
back.
M
M
B
M
C
Thank
you,
I
think,
we'll
go
to
the
public
if
there's
anyone
either
in
the
room
or
on
zoom,
who
wants
to
speak
to
this
it's
public
hearing-
and
this
is
the
chance
to
address
the
information
just
that
we
were
just
presented.
B
C
Or
in
more
detail
what
has
been
produced
adam
clark,
do
we
have
anybody
in
the
zoom
room
with
a
hand
up
on
this?
We
do
not.
Is
there
a
motion
from
the
governing
body.
C
There's
a
motion-
and
there
is
a
second
questions
or
discussion
at
this
time,.
B
F
F
C
C
F
C
F
F
Saved
there
we
go
sorry,
I
mostly
had
data
to
present,
and
so
I
didn't
have
the
numbers
in
my
head,
but
I
did
want
to
thank
alexandria,
mares
from
our
office.
She
processed
over
200
applications
for
the
upcoming
wine
and
chili
event.
It
was
a
huge
lift
on
our
department
and
the
amount
of
signatures
we
had
to
provide
was
very
intense.
I
also
more
notably
wanted
to
note
that
the
city
clerk's
office,
as
many
of
you,
are
aware,
a
primary
goal
has
been
to
increase
transparency
and
customer
support
and
service
as
well.
F
We
started
putting
city
contracts
on
the
city
website,
the
external
website
and,
more
recently,
as
of
june,
the
clerk's
office
started
routing
all
agreements
on
behalf
of
the
city,
so
departments
were
no
longer
routing
their
own
contracts
and
agreements.
This
is
actually
a
huge
lift,
but
a
great
centralization.
F
It
helped
us
avoid
confusion
which
was
happening
across
all
departments
for
the
order
of
signatures
and
also
tracking
getting
the
agreements
back
to
the
city.
Clerk's
office
was
a
really
big
issue,
and
so,
with
this
process
change
that
we
went
through
we've
routed
over
200
contracts
successfully
with
extremely
positive
feedback,
but
also
that
means
that
none
of
those
agreements
were
missed,
which
was
potentially
happening
through
the
electronic
sign
transition.
So
I
just
wanted
to
thank
my
staff.
Xavier
has
primarily
been
routing
the
agreements
and
charlene's
been
assisting
with
that.
F
So
one
other
thing
I
wanted
to
note
is
that
we
recently
hired
christina
montoya
as
our
record
management
technician.
So
far.
She
has
assessed
over
4
500
boxes
at
our
record
center
and
identified
that
2
250
boxes
have
met
their
retention
schedule
for
destruction.
F
It
doesn't
appear
that
the
city
has
ever
gone
through
a
destruction
process,
so
I
am
working
through
that
as
well,
and
we
are
also
looking
to
transition
to
electronic
documents.
So,
and
you
just
excuse
me,
want
to
note
that
basic
audit
of
our
boxes
has
been
a
tremendous.
Lift,
she's
basically
been
reviewing
each
box
individually,
and
I
definitely
want
to
commend
her
for
her
efforts
at
the
record
center.
F
Also.
I
want
to
note
that,
while
I'm
extremely
nervous
about
this,
I
have
been
working
for
over
two
years
to
get
the
city
a
new
website.
It
is
the
largest
project
that
I've
ever
worked
on.
It's
also
the
largest
project
that
our
contractor
has
ever
worked
on.
It's
been
15
years
since
we've
had
a
new
website.
We
had
over
20
000
pages
so
tomorrow
at
5
00
pm,
and
I
will
be
sending
a
citywide
email
for
this.
We
will
be
sun,
setting
our
old
website
and
transitioning
to
a
brand
new
website.
F
If
you've
seen
me
over
the
last
two
weeks,
I've
been
a
complete
and
nervous
wreck
over
this.
I
think
it
will
be
an
interesting
transition,
but
I'm
really
excited
to
move
this
forward.
F
This
is
something
that
I
committed
to
like,
I
said
over
two
years
ago,
and
I'm
really
proud
of
the
fact
that
it's
been
a
very,
very
small
number
of
employees
that
have
worked
on
this,
so
thanks
to
isabella,
sharp
and
jeff
norris
that
helped
with
a
lot
of
the
initial
processing
of
pages
and
reorganization
and
structure
and
to
michaela
beggins,
who,
over
the
last
few
months,
has
really
just
been
completely
by
my
side
as
we've
navigated
this
project.
So
those
are
my
updates
a
lot
going
on
in
the
clerk's
office.
C
Thank
you,
move
on
to
communications
from
the
governing
body,
councilwoman
viral
in
full
respect
for
the
pain
and
suffering
you've
endured.
Tonight
you
have
the
first.
You
have
the
floor.
First
and
primary
pole
place.
E
Thank
you
just
wanted
to
thank
all
the
city
staff
involved
with
the
zobra
and
what
it
takes
to
put
that
together.
That
has
involves
so
many
people
from
city
staff
and
and
our
law
enforcement,
and
then
beyond
that.
So
just
I'm
glad
that
there
was
no
issues
and
it
seemed
like
everyone
had
a
good
time,
lots
of
opinions
always
about
zozobra.
E
I
always
think
it's
interesting
during
the
decades
project
different
opinions
about
what
people
think
about
the
style.
But
overall,
I
think
everyone
had
a
good
time
and
we're
happy
to
burn
some
glooms
away
and
then
also
just
the
staff
especially
park
staff
during
fiestas,
so
important.
I
made
sure
to
thank
them.
E
They
probably
didn't
know
who
I
was
in
some
cases
and
to
say
that
I
appreciate
them
working
overtime
because,
as
you
see
the
revelry
and
people
having
fun
and
dancing
and
eating
and
then
there's
a
lot
to
clean
up-
and
I
appreciate
that
behind
the
scenes,
staff
is
doing
that
work
that
no
one
else
sees.
But
we
do.
I
think,
because
we
know
that
city
staff
is
there
to
make
it
happen.
So
I
also
wanted
to
thank
the
the
fiesta
council.
E
I
think
also
putting
all
the
different
events
together
is
a
lot
there's
so
much
and
it's
and
it's
exciting,
because
there's
a
lot
of
different
things,
people
can
participate
in
and
decide
what
they
want
to.
E
They
can
pick
and
choose
what
they
want
to
be
part
of,
and
I
there's
a
lot
there,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
thank
them
too,
to
be
able
to
pull
off
a
lot
of
different
events
over
the
actually
months,
but
fiestas
in
general,
I
think
was
successful
and
people
had
a
great
time
and
it
was
a
good
spiritual
event
in
my
own
experience.
So
I
think
I
know
I'm
missing
something,
but
I'm
tired,
so
I'm
going
to
pass
it
on.
Thank
you.
A
A
Well,
I
guess
I'll
continue
the
theme
of
fiestas.
It
was
a
long
tiring
weekend
and
I
can
only
imagine
how
tired
our
staff
was,
as
councilwoman
rael
said,
especially
the
folks
doing
the
sanitation
cleanup.
I
don't.
I
don't
think
I
saw
those
trash
cans
overflowed
once
I
mean
they
were
constantly
added
so
kudos
to
them
director
mcdonald,
if
you
would
please
pass
along
my
thanks
to
them
that
was
fantastic
as
well
as
the
iron
police
that
were
there
providing
support.
It
was
a
good
weekend.
I
think
lots
of
dancing
lots
of
eating.
A
I
missed
out
on
my
annual
chalupas
that
weren't
there
this
this
this
fiestas
for
some
reason,
but
next
year
next
year
I
hope
they're
there
and
I
missed
seeing
y'all
on
friday
night.
It
was
raining
the
rain.
Didn't
stop
me.
I
was.
I
got
home
drenched.
A
It
was
one
of
those
nights
where
our
community
is
kind
of
coming
back
out
of
covert
and
it's,
I
think,
all
the
events
this
summer
kind
of
had
shown
that
we
love
being
together,
and
that's
this
weekend's
kind
of
re
re
kind
of
confirmed
that
that
we
love
being
together
as
a
community,
so
it
was
great
to
hear
there
was
no
incidences
and
just
happy
about
that.
Upcoming
events.
We've
got
the
indigenous
day
over
at
regal
park
this
weekend,
hosted
by
the
santa
fe
indigenous
center
noon.
A
D
Oh
yeah,
I
also
I
wanted
to
thank
the
city
manager
again
and
the
city
staff
and
all
those
working
on
the
banners
they're.
Looking
good
so
appreciate
that
I
wanted
to
thank
the
city
and
the
fire
department
for
the
911
remembrances
on
sunday.
A
great
event
and,
as
you
know,
that's
my
background.
So
still
means
a
lot
to
me
personally
and
then
I
just
want
to
reiterate
what
everyone
has
said
and
just
thanks
to
all
the
city
staff
that
participated
helped
out
with
fiestas.
K
N
D
I
I
wanted
to
also
share
my
appreciation
to
city
staff.
This
was
the
first
year
in
a
while
that
I
was
able
to
enjoy
multiple
aspects
of
fiestas
with
my
kids
and
city
staff
was
amazing.
Zozobra
was
very
eventful
for
my
family,
while
at
the
sober
my
daughter
got
sick
and
the
firefighters
not
only
were
doing
everything
they
were
doing,
but
they
like
came
to
our
rescue,
got
us
into
the
fire
station,
gave
me
wipes
and
paper
towels
and
everything
we
needed
to
navigate
that.
I
So
it
was
just
a
positive
experience
despite
that,
because-
and
you
were
all
just
taken
care
of
by
our
community,
so
it
was
an
awesome
experience.
Despite
her
not
feeling
great
and
throughout
the
you
know
my
career
as
a
principal,
I
was
always
in
the
parade,
but
this
year
I
got
to
sit
with
my
kids
and
engage
with
the
community,
and
it's
been,
I
would
say,
like
nine
years
since
I've
been
able
to
do
that.
I
So
it's
really
special,
and
it
is
also
amazing
that,
as
soon
as
it
ends
that
you
know
the
street
just
gets
washed
and
everything
is
kind
of
erased
and
people
start
dancing
and
it's
all
done
with
city
staff
working
in
the
background,
so
I
just
wanted
to
let
everyone
know
I
enjoyed
it
and
we
wouldn't
have
that
enjoyment
without
city
staff.
So
thank
you.
S
Thank
you,
mayor
I'll,
just
briefly
echo
everyone
that
it
was
a
couple
of
weekends
of
a
lot
of
fun,
and
I
think
that
we
should
all
be
thankful
that
everyone
stayed
safe
and
we
didn't
have
any
incidents
other
than
your
daughter
being
sick.
S
But
it
is
an
amazing
thing.
Saturday
morning
after
zozobra,
I
drove
through
fort
marcy,
and
it
was
like
that
happened
here
last
night,
and
it
looks
like
this
now,
that's
astounding
and
same
with
after
the
parade
volunteers
and
the
parks
crew,
great
thanks
to
them,
and
I
think
it's
absolutely
terrific
that
it
was
such
a
safe
weekend
for
all
of
us.
Thank
you.
H
H
You
would
submit
a
letter
of
interest
and
a
brief
resume
again
cv
chavez
at
santa
fe
nm.gov.
If
you're
interested
and
I'll
just
tell
you
that
fiesta
weekends,
I
wasn't
able
to
attend
very
much
of
any
of
the
events,
but
it
does
make
an
incredible
backdrop
for
wedding
and
if
you
know,
if
you
ever
want
to
host
a
wedding
and
have
something
going
on
in
town,
yes,
this
is
a
great
time
to
do
it.
People
came
to
town
had
a
great
time.
H
C
Yeah,
I
think
you
buried
the
lead
there
counselor,
which
is
congratulations
to
you
and
your
family
for
a
wedding
and
a
new
daughter-in-law
and
what
looks
like
a
wonderful
event
for
everybody.
Q
Q
I
unfortunately
did
not
get
to
participate
in
as
many
events
this
year
for
a
number
of
reasons.
As
was
discussed
at
our
last
meeting,
my
grandmother
did
pass
so
I
was
in
california
for
a
funeral,
and
I
do
want
to
thank
how
many
members
of
this
governing
body
reached
out
to
me
during
this
time,
and
I
I
really
I
truly
appreciate
it.
Q
It
was
really
really
wonderful,
just
those
little
text
messages
and
I
meant
a
lot
and
then,
of
course,
I
came
home
and
my
kid
got
sick
right
away
because
you
know
no
rest
for.
B
The
weather
so.
Q
I
didn't
get
to
do
as
much
fiestas
as
I
wanted
this
year,
although
we
did
get
to
do
the
parade
on
sunday.
I
loved
that
my
son
asked.
Why
is
this
a
truck
parade,
which
just
shows
what
his
focus
about
is
the
fact
that
there
are
a
lot
of
trucks,
and
now
he
has
decided
that
we
should
always
have
truck
parades,
no
new.
Q
Just
just
shows
where
your
perspective
is,
I
guess
how
much
you're
interested
in
that's
what
he
noticed,
but
it
really
was
just
a
wonderful
time,
and
hopefully,
next
year,
I'll
be
able
to
do
even
more
because
it
really
is
one
of
my
absolute
favorite
times
in
the
city
and
just
exemplifies
the
uniqueness.
Is
that
a
word,
I
believe
so
how
late
I'm
hungry
uniqueness
of
the
city
of
santa
fe
and
really
what
we?
What
we
treasure
here,
and
so
it
was
truly
beautiful.
Q
Having
the
fiesta
council
here
on
what
was
that
friday
was
was
so
much
fun,
and
so
I
I
want
to
thank
them
for
coming
and
visiting
us
here
as
well.
That
was
thursday.
I
can't
remember
whenever
they
came,
it
was
really
wonderful,
so
whatever
that
was,
I
do
want
to
remind
everybody
that
the
toss,
no
moth
event,
cape
santa
fe,
beautiful,
fall
cleanup
is
this
saturday.
Q
You
can
still
register
on
the
keep
santa
fe
beautiful
website
to
sign
up
to.
Can
you,
I
hope,
so
to
clean
up
somewhere
in
your
neighborhood,
I'm
sure
that
they
will
accept
more
volunteers,
even
if
the
sign
up
is
done.
So
that's
a
wonderful
opportunity
for
everybody
to
come
out
and
be
part
of
the
solution
in
our
community
and
I
hope
to
see
many
of
you
there
and
see
many
of
our
community
members
there
and
I
you
know.
Actually
I
just
want
to
thank
my
mother.
Q
My
mother
has
been
here
for
the
past
week
and
there
is
no
way
I
would
have
been
able
to
do
this
past
week
because
my
kid
got
sick
and
then
his
dad
got
sick,
and
so
thanks
to
my
mom,
because
apparently
you're
never
done
parenting
and
she
has
just
been
an
incredible
rock
star,
really
helping
support
me
as
it's
and
she's
just
gone
through.
Q
So
much
obviously
was
losing
her
mother,
and
so
I
just
want
to
recognize
what
an
incredible
mom
I
have
and
she's
in
town
visiting
right
now,
and
I'm
very
happy
about
that.
That's.
R
Come
here
and
yeah,
it's
tough
to
go
last,
because
you
want
to
reiterate
all
the
all
the
wonderful
comments
from
you
guys
and
same
thing.
R
It
was
the
mayor
for
signing
it
and
it
was
special
because
she
was
special
to
our
community
and
we
were
able
to
read
it
on
a
very
special
night,
which
was
the
mariachi
extravaganza,
and
so
thank
you,
councillor,
amanda
chavez,
councillor
michael
garcia
and
councillor
renee
via
who
also
we
all
read
the
proclamation
on
stage
at
the
on
behalf
of
the
mayor
and
the
city,
and
so
again
thank
you
for
doing
that.
R
I
really
do
appreciate
that
undertaking,
especially
in
in
a
short
period
of
time
and
with
what
you
were
going
through
with
the
website
and
all
the
other
work
that
you
do.
I
know
that
was
that
was
a
tough
layout.
So
thank
you.
Thank
your
staff
as
well
for
helping
us
get
that
done.
R
I
want
to
give
a
special
thank
you
to
our
native
american
brothers
and
sisters
that
participated
in
our
annual
fiesta,
because
I
think
that
community
building
and
bridging
gaps
is
always
important
and
they
come
and
dance
and
give
our
their
prayers
to
us
and
as
we
do
for
them
as
well.
I
would
like
to
the
9
11
memorial
was
amazing.
R
Thank
you,
tossers
for
being
there
as
well,
and
I
do
want
to
just
mention
that
tomorrow
the
ncrtd
maintenance
facility
is
having
they're
having
a
celebration
of
ribbon
cutting
tomorrow,
and
I
will
be
in
attendance
to
that.
The
blue
buses,
as
we
all
know
them,
are
very
vital
to
transportation
and
for
our
northern
cities
connect.
You
know
public
transportation.
R
C
Always
now
we're
talking
thanks
everybody,
I
I
want
to
also
just
celebrate
santa
fe
for
a
minute.
Anybody
ever
doubted
the
amazing
community.
We
live
in
the
last
couple
weeks
are
just
upstanding
incredible,
remarkable
and
people.
C
They're
excited
to
be
out,
they
love
being
with
each
other,
we
love
being
with
them,
whether
it's,
whether
it's
at
the
grand
ball
or
at
the
prague
mass.
I'm
grateful
to
the
fiesta
council
for
all
the
work
they
do,
and
I
also
want
to
recognize
the
archbishop
for
being
here
and
for
presiding
in
his
own
way.
His
sermon
he
gave
about
the
moat
in
your
eye
versus
the
little
tiny
splinter
in
your
neighbor's
eye,
couldn't
have
been
more
apropo
in
the
world,
we're
living
in
right
now.
C
I
also
want
to
recognize
two
individuals
who
have
so
far
been
you've
named
almost
everybody.
You
did
not
name
pico
and
kathy.
My
two
dogs
who
dragged
me
through
the
pet
parade,
which
was
always
one
of
my
favorite
events.
C
They
were
not
particularly
well
behaved,
but
that
was
okay,
because
nobody,
nobody
was
very
behaved
at
all,
but
what
a
blast
to
see
all
the
people
out
with
their
favorite
pets
and
their
costumes
and
their
candy
and
their
kids
and
their.
I
just
can't
get
enough
of
that,
and
I
also
get.
A
C
Celebrate
my
puppies,
which
is
a
good
thing
to
norma
norman,
naranjo
and
angie
miller,
who
were
recognized
as
bridge
builders
in
our
community
at
the
part
of
the
fastest
celebration
that
recognizes
community
building
as
councilor
lee
garcia
said,
that's
really
essential
to
what's
going
on
and
those
two
individuals
one
for
their
her
contribution
in
food
and
cooking
and
cross-cultural
cuisine
and
the
other
for
dance.
Really.
C
I
think,
captures
the
spirit
of
what's
going
on
a
big
shout
out
to
jennifer
dickey
from
the
santa
fe
fire
department
who
celebrated
25
years
of
service
with
the
city
of
santa
fe
and
so
many
firsts
first
woman
to
hold
so
many
positions
in
the
fire
department
and
she's,
a
just
a
great,
a
great
person
who
tries
every
single
day,
as
she
told
us,
to
give
150
of
what
she's
got
national
hispanic
heritage
month
september,
15th
through
october
15th.
C
Something
to
also
recognize
something
we're
not
all
aware
of
international
equal
pay
day
kicks
off
on
september
18th,
as
does
banned
books
week.
If
you
want
to
look
at
all
the
books
that
have
been
banned
and
shouldn't
have
been
now
is
the
time
to
refresh
your
memory
about
things
that
some
people
don't
want
us
to
read,
and
we
should
read
them
just
because
some
people
don't
want
us
to
read
them.
C
It's
been
mentioned,
tas
namaste,
volunteer
cleanup
day
this
saturday,
the
big
read
kickoff,
also
on
the
17th
and
while
we're
advertising
opportunities
for
people
to
participate,
the
mayor's
youth
advisory
board
is
looking
for
teenagers
and
young
adult
adults
who
are
looking
who
are
interested
in
getting
involved.
C
C
That
that
exercise
celebration
are
we
ready
to
take
the
last
item
off
the
table.
We
got
some
language.
We
can
take
a
look.
F
Here,
if
I
could
really
fast,
I
just
want
to
know
everyone
mentioned
the
911
ceremony,
and
I
forgot
to
mention
that
a
very
special
battalion
chief
named
joshua
helsick
was
in
charge
of
organizing
that
event,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
say
I
was
very
proud
of
him
and
his
continuous
efforts
throughout
our
lives
to
make
sure
that
911
is
always
memorable.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
I
get
that
in
I'm
very
proud
of
him
and
again
so
anyways.
Thank
you
mayor
for
that
and.
F
Well,
thank
you.
We
try
to
have
well-behaved
children.
F
D
F
Yes,
item
16b
is
consideration
of
a
resolution
sponsored
by
councillor
rivera
and
councillor
lee
garcia.
It's
a
resolution
requesting
a
term
extension
to
a
local
government
road
fund,
cooperative
agreement
from
the
new
mexico
department
of
transportation.
This
one's
identified
as
control
number
l5004.
R
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
and
council,
rivera
and
same
thing,
we're
working
on
a
project
there
at
south
meadows
and
avopria,
and
and
they
need
some
more
time
so
requesting
the
extension.
Thank
you
thank.
F
S
S
C
C
Item
is
the
events
on
the
plaza
item.
C
B
C
B
C
K
Mayor
counselors,
so
as
noted,
we
needed
to
change
on
line
thirteen
change
it
from
eight
to
three,
also
taking
out
the
words
up
two
and
then
in
order
to
make
the
rest
of
the
sentence
read.
Well,
we
are
inserting
the
following
prior
to
cultural
events
and
then
striking,
including
and
inserting
a
colon
over
here,
after
plaza,
so
that
section
would
read
to
allow
three
small
commercial
permits
for
the
following
cultural
events,
on
the
plaza
colon
juneteenth
pride
indigenous
people's
day
and
authorizing
limited
commercial
activity
at
other
cultural
events
in
the
plaza
park.
C
B
G
And
I
just
realized,
as
we
read
it
aloud
that
maybe
an
and
would
be
helpful
as
well
for
indigenous
people's
day,
which
I
think
he
just
suggested
up.
There.
G
K
I'll
start
with
the
second
clause,
since
that's
what
we're
amending
and
amending
sfcc
1987
section
23-5.2
to
allow
three
small
commercial
permits
for
the
following
cultural
events,
on
the
plaza
juneteenth
pride
and
indigenous
peoples
day
and
authorizing
limited
commercial
activity.
Other
cultural
events
in
the
plaza
park.
G
C
K
Mr
mayor
counselors,
that's
correct,
so
if
you
look
at
paragraph
b
one,
we
are
striking
no
more
than
eight
and
inserting
three
so
this
is
essentially
mirroring.
What's
in
the
caption
and
then
we're
inserting
the
following
prior
to
one
day,
cultural
events
and
then
we
are
striking,
including
the
following
two
events.
B
C
Q
Okay,
if
that's
the
case,
and
I
would
like
to
move
to
approve
this
amendment
second.
B
C
Any
other
questions
regarding
the
amendments
either
the
the
one
at
the
top
or
this
correction
on
page
seven,
to
make
it
line
up
with
the
act
accurately
line
up
with
what
the
body
of
the
bill
says.
P
F
P
F
C
G
It
is
a
judgment
call
if
you
think
this
puts
if
the
published
and
noticed
caption
puts
the
public.
This
is
this
is
different
as
an
ordinance
change
than
a
res.
The
standard
is
higher
for
an
ordinance
change
than
a
resolution.
G
If
we
think
that
we
want
to
take
the
position
that
the
existing
caption
put
the
public
on
adequate
notice
and
that
people
don't
care
whether
there's
three
versus
eight
and
that's
not
an
important
issue
to
the
public
and
that
the
existing
caption
that
was
noticed
adequately
provided
notice
about
the
legal
change
that
you're
making
to
your
laws,
you
can
move
forward.
If
you
don't
think
that
that
is
the
case,
then
you
should
delay.
E
Mr
mayor
yeah,
I
mean,
if
you
think,
about
how
we
have
done
it
in
the
past,
the
same
bill
stays
the
same
and
the
and
the
caption
and
the
title,
and
then
we
have
these
amendments
that
we
discuss
in
our
meetings
and
then,
if
there's
additional
ones
like
we
just
did
now,
we
include
that
in
so
I
guess
I'm
still
of
the
mindset
that
we
didn't.
E
I
don't
know
I'm
conflicted
about
this
one
I
feel
like
we
could
have
made
the
changes,
because
we
did
change
it
along
the
way.
Most
people
that
had
issues
with
eight
I
knew
I
have
I've-
have
informed
them.
Obviously
that
doesn't
get
to
the
general
public,
but
people
that
had
initially
thought
it
was
eight
knew
that
we
changed
it.
Q
Q
I
I
think
where
I'm
struggling
here
is
the
direction
in
which
the
change
went.
So
so
we
went
from
eight
events
to
three.
I
think.
If
we
went
from
three
to
eight,
I
would
be
having
a
a
much
harder
time
feeling
like
this
was
something
we
could
pass
tonight,
but
we
decreased
instead
of
increased
the
number
of
permitted
events
and
so-
and
I
am
really
torn
given
that
the
bill
did
reflect
the
intent.
So
somebody
was
reading
at
that.
Q
I
think
that
this
is
a
challenging
judgment
call,
but
I,
but
I
think
the
direction
of
the
change
makes
a
difference
in
my
opinion
as
to
whether
or
not.
Q
That
philosophy
still
stands.
I
guess
I
guess.
The
only
question
is
what
you
know
would
there
have
been
individuals
who
had
the
caption
changed?
Who
wanted
the
one
of
the
eight
events
that
would
have
shown
up
to
speak
in
favor
of
that,
and-
and
maybe
that
is
something
if
that
that
we
don't
the
title.
Q
Thank
you
I'm
so
sorry,
I
don't
know
what's
going
on
with
me
tonight,
but
yeah,
but
I
I
think
that
that's
I
am
struggling
and
I
feel
that
the
direction
of
the
change
does
make
a
little
bit
of
a
difference
and
I'm
going
to
stop
rambling
because
I'm
low
blood
sugar,
so
I'm
not
sure
I'm
making
sense
right
now.
C
I'm
going
to
take
the
privilege
of
chair
and
then
I'll
recognize
you.
I
think
if
we
had
a
time
pressure,
which
said,
as
I
remember,
counselor
or
councilman
vera,
your
initial
instinct
was
to
get
this
done
for
juneteenth.
C
If,
if
we
were
gonna,
miss
juneteenth
by
waiting
I'd
be
upset.
There's
nothing
on
the
horizon
that
will
be
affected
by
waiting
and
getting
it
right.
We're
not
going
to
miss
out
on
a
celebration.
We're
not
going
to
have
anybody
not
be
able
to
do
their
their
small
event
on
the
plaza
we,
I
would
I
personally
I
I
can
be
talked
out
of
pretty
much
anything
at
10
30
at
night,
but
it
seems
to
me
that
the
we
we
didn't
get
it
right.
C
We
got
it
right,
let's
wait
and
vote
on
it
when
it's
right
and
then
we
will
have
observed
our
processes
and
we
won't
have
done
anything
to
even
marginally
skirt
the
correct
process
for
making
this
thing
a
law
in
the
interest
of
just
not
cutting
corners.
We
lose
nothing
by
other
than
the
aggravation
there's
nobody
penalized
by
waiting.
If
we
couldn't
do
juneteenth,
because
we
were
waiting,
I'd,
be
very
I'd,
be
inclined
to
risk
it,
but
nobody's
going
to
miss
out
on
their
celebration.
D
Thank
you,
I
think,
between
now
and
probably
november
time,
there's
probably
quite
a
bit
of
events
that
are
coming
up
and
people
that
may
be
willing
to
take
advantage
of
this
really
and.
C
D
Believe
that
the
people
that
were
here
tonight,
whether
it
said
eight
or
three,
those
are
the
people
that
were
going
to
be
here,
and
they
were
here.
They
knew
what
the
language
was.
D
C
I
I
think
the
events
are
the
small,
so
the
cultural
events
now
can
have
one
table
for
commercial
use,
so
that
could
impact
actually
a
large
amount
of
events
that
may
occur
from
this
evening
until
october.
So
it
actually
does
have
impact
on
opportunity
when
we're
talking
about
small
cultural
events,
because
this
kind
of
redefines
their
what
they
can
sell
at
their
event.
So
there's
that,
but
I
also
just
want.
I
I
think
that
we
are
equipped-
and
I
feel
the
public
has
been.
I
feel
the
people
that
showed
up
today
represented
the
many
views
that
she
had
to
kind
of
navigate
through.
We
had
you
know,
chamber
of
commerce.
Here
we
had
local
artists
here
tonight
we
had
many
representatives
of
the
different
community
groups
that
she
had
to
navigate
through,
and
I
feel
like
with
that
and
the
work
that
has
been
done
and
how
long
this
has
been
going
on
that
we
are
equipped
to
make
a
decision
tonight.
C
C
G
And
may
remember
the
reason
I
say
it's
a
judgment
call
is
that
there
is
subjective
language
for
the
standard
which
is
adequate
notice,
the
public
that
is,
you
know
sufficient
to
provide
them
notice
of
what's
being
voted
on
that
night,
the
language
did
say
six
additional
events
selected
by
lottery.
Do
we
know
if
there's
anyone
out
there
who's
really
wanting
to
be
selected
by
lottery?
That
would
be
the
type
of
thing.
If
that
would
be,
the
type
of
risk
is.
If
someone
said
I
anticipated
my
event
could
be
selected
by
lottery.
P
C
Oh
wait:
we
have
a
hand
from
the
city
manager
and.
G
G
G
H
H
I
just
I'm
sorry,
I
think
that's
horrible.
I
do
worry,
though,
that
if
we
don't
do
it
right,
there's
that's
potentially
problematic
and
I
mean
I'd
be
in
favor
and
calling
a
special
meeting
I'd.
I
just
I
just
I
just
worry
that
we
should
probably
stick
to
this.
Titles
are
very
important.
There's
a
lot
of
litigation
over
titles
and
notice,
and
I
just
think
we
should
be
careful.
C
F
Mayor
webber
might
I'll
double
check,
because
sometimes
notices
are
finicky
with
weekend
requests,
but
it
would
be
the
week
of
october
3rd.
So,
ideally,
I
could
have
it
october
3rd,
depending
on
the
weekend
delay
for
the
request
to
publish
it
could
be
october
6th,
but
it
would
be
the
week
of
october
3rd,
regardless.
H
G
C
E
Think
just
so
we'll
just
make
it
clean
and
accurate
for
accuracy
purposes
that
we
can
postpone
until
and
have
a
special
meeting
to
vote
on
it.
That
was
what
I
prefer,
especially
because
for
when
we
do
disturb
disservice
to
all
the
folks
that
were
here,
it's
frankly
embarrassing
to
have
public
watch
us
not
understand
how
this
all
plays
out
procedurally
and
then
I
think
the
other
thing
is
oh,
I
was
gonna
say
I
forgot
now.
E
I
think,
oh
in
terms
of
opportunities
to
have
even
that
one
booth
indigenous
people's
day
would
probably
you
know
that
there's
potential
for
them
to
actually
have
that
wow,
and
so
I
that's
one
of
other
events
that
we
don't
even
know
that
even
actually.
Well,
maybe
not.
I
was
thinking
on
friday,
but
I
don't
think
they
would
be
able
to
get
it
together
to
have
a
booth
for
vending,
but
I
think
it's
important
to
to
have
that
opportunity
with
folks
that
were
anticipating
this
passing
tonight.
E
H
H
E
Okay,
so
then
I'd
like
to
make
a
motion
to
postpone
to
the
first
week
of
october,
with
all
the
changes
we
made
tonight
and
all
the
other
amendments.
H
C
C
To
be
delayed,
could
you
call
the
royal
police,
cam
county
city
clerk?
Yes,.