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B
You
guys
ready
all
right,
I'm
going
to
call
the
meeting
to
order
at
504
PM,
it's
a
regular
meeting
of
the
governing
body
for
excuse
me
for
September
28th
and
we'll
begin
with
the
Pledge
of
Allegiance,
led
by
councilor
Castle,
to
salute
to
the
New
Mexico
flag,
led
by
councilor
Lindell
invocation,
followed
by
remembrances,
led
by
councilor
Romero
work.
Thank
you.
D
Good
evening,
everyone
I
would
ask
that
we
bow
our
heads
for
a
short
statement.
I
guess
I
want
to
reiterate
and
emphasize
counselor
chavis's
words
to
us
at
our
last
meeting
about
kindness,
because
ever
since
that
meeting
I
in
my
social
media
in
newspapers
in
emails,
I
keep
coming
across.
That
word
and
I.
Think
it's
significant
and
I
want
to
read
a
short
statement
from
Maya
Angelou,
and
it
goes
like
this
I've
learned
that
people
will
forget
what
you
said.
D
People
will
forget
what
you
did,
but
people
will
never
forget
how
you
made
them
feel
and
I
just
want
us,
as
we
start
this
meeting,
where
we
have
quite
a
bit
in
front
of
us
to
think
about
those
words
and
counselor
Travis's
words
to
us
last
meeting.
Thank
you.
B
Thank
you
can
I
get
a
motion
to
approve
the
agenda.
B
F
B
A
A
Good
evening
Mr
Mayor,
members
of
the
council,
our
entrance
conference
is
scheduled
to
be
it
will
be
scheduled
by
the
end
of
next
week
with
car,
Rigs
and
Ingram
CRI,
who
are
the
external
auditors?
We've
already
started
contact
with
them,
they're
not
scheduled
to
start
until
October
3rd.
If
they'd
like
to
schedule
the
entrance
Conference
during
the
first
week
full
week
of
October,
so
we're
very
happy
about
that
that
real
progress
they
will
be
again
to
reiterate,
there'll,
be
doing
both
21
and
22
to
the
extent
possible.
A
Most
of
our
contact
thus
far
has
been
with
CLA,
who
are
our
remediation
accounting
and
audit
preparation
firm,
and
we
had
a
very
in
on
the
27th
and
they're
already
interacting
with
staff
reviewing
the
work
that
had
already
been
done
for
21
prior
to
their
coming
on
board
and
they're,
also
moving
forward
with
22.,
and
with
that
I
stand
for
questions.
Thank
you,
sir
questions.
B
About
the
progress
toward
getting
the
audit
work
moving
further,
very
good
and
Rick
roster,
would
you
care
to
take
the
microphone.
F
Oh
correct
mayor.
The
next
item
is
the
item.
J.
It's
request
for
approval.
The
general
service
contract
with
the
Santa
Fe
Community
College
for
the
water
conservation
pilot
program
in
the
total
amount
of
240
000,
including
an
mgrt.
It's
expiring,
on
June
30th,
2026
and
Christine
chavezar
water
conservation
manager
is
available
for
this
item.
B
D
Thank
you,
mayor
and
I
I
took
this
off,
mostly
because
I
think
it's
something
that
we
should
be
very
proud
of
and
that
I
want
the
community
to
be
aware
of
the
work
that
started
at
the
water
conservation
committee
was
a
pilot
program
with
this
contract
will
now
become
part
of
what
the
water
conservation
office
does
and
just
want
to
really
congratulate
the
water
conservation
committee
for
the
work
they've
done
and
congratulate
Christine
Chavez
the
water
conservation
manager
and
give
her
the
opportunity
to
speak
about
this
work
and
kind
of
the
trajectory
it
has
taken,
and
what
the
impact
of
this
work
has
meant
for
the
city
and
will
continue
to
to
do
so.
B
Thank
you
welcome
and
we
look
forward
to
an
overview
of
not
just
the
contract,
but
the
larger
set
of
work
that
the
contract
represents.
If
you
wanted
to
give
us
a
briefing
on
that
I'm
sorry
good.
D
Move
to
approve
this
item.
Second.
B
H
Hello,
okay,
Mr
Mayor
members
of
the
council.
Thank
you
very
much
for
pulling
this
item
and
allowing
me
to
speak
about
it
and
give
you
more
information
about
our
program
and
I
really
appreciate
the
opportunity,
there's
always
so
much
to
say
and
I
think
every
slide
could
have
its
own
10-minute
presentation.
But
it's
an
invitation
to
all
of
you
to
ask
me
any
questions
or
to
learn
more
about
our
program.
I'm
willing
to
sit
down
with
any
one
of
you
but
I.
H
B
For
people
who
aren't
familiar
with
you,
your
role,
your
job
title,
people
who
may
be
watching
through
the
web
or
through
television,
give
us
your
your
a
brief
introduction
to
who
you
are
what
you
do,
what
your
title
is
and
then
we'll
go
to
the
presentation.
H
Thank
you
so
much
so
my
name
is
Christine
Chavez
and
I
manage
the
city's
water
conservation
program
and
I
did
want
to
take
the
opportunity
to
introduce
my
staff
to
you
as
well.
So
in
the
audience
I
have
Robert,
Wood
and
Robert
is
our
water
conservation
coordinator,
and
then
we
have
Raman
kuris
and
he
is
her.
H
H
So
all
of
you
have
seen
this
slide
before
I
think
it's
worth
bringing
up
again
as
a
great
introduction
to
the
work
that
we
do.
Jesse
Roach,
The,
Water
Division
director
always
starts
off
with
this
slide
and
talks
about
how
we
have
had
a
33
reduction
in
total
water
used
while
the
population
increased
by
25,
and
so
this
graph
really
speaks
to
the
conservation
effort
here
in
the
city
and
I
think
will
be
just
a
good
reference
to
things.
We're
going
to
talk
about
next.
H
So
we
consider
the
water
conservation
program
to
be
completely
public
input,
driven
and
I
know
this
site
is
hard
to
see
and
I
can
send
it
all
to
you.
But
there
are
several
things
that
we
try
to
incorporate
into
our
2020-2025
water
conservation
plan
and
for
those
new
members
who
may
not
have
a
copy
of
that
plan.
We
can
certainly
get
one
to
you.
It
is
on
our
website.
Savewater
santafe.com.
H
But
what
I
will
say
is
that
we
collected
2100
pieces
of
input
and
the
way
we
incorporated
that
input
into
the
plan
is
that
we
ranked
the
most
frequently
mentioned
pieces
of
input
and
considering
that
those
would
have
the
those
programs
would
have
the
most
public
buy-in.
And
then
we
created
a
matrix
around
those,
and
you
can
see
those
in
the
plan.
You
can
see
what
people
prioritize,
but
then
we
also
compared
the
highly
prioritized
programs
against
City
Planning
efforts,
and
so
some
of
the
plans
that
we
considered
were
the
sustainability
plan.
H
So
A
Five-Year
Plan
was
adopted
in
2020
with
the
five-year
scorecard
and
then
annual
scorecards
are
developed
with
public
input
collected
every
July
and
approved
by
the
water
conservation
committee
and
then
in
July
again
we
we
report
our
progress
against
the
annual
scorecard
before
so
it's
it's
really
great.
It's
what
the
public
wanted
us
to
do.
H
They
wanted
to
stay
involved
in
the
process
and
they
wanted
us
to
also
be
transparent
about
our
progress
and
we're
also
integrating
you
know
across
City
programs,
and
you
know
what
the
community
really
wants
to
see
us
do.
H
I
wanted
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
our
current
water
conservation
program.
Again,
each
of
these
squares
probably
could
be
its
own
10-minute
presentation,
I'm,
hoping
if
you
have
any
questions,
I
can
answer
them
for
you,
but
we
do
have
a
rebate
program.
That's
you
know
pretty
broad.
We
offer
rebates
on
washing
machines,
dishwashers,
toilets,
urinals,
irrigation
equipment
and
rainwater,
harvesting
equipment
and
I
have
been
seeing
things
in
the
paper
and
they're
like.
H
Oh,
the
city
really
should
incentivize
rainwater
harvesting
equipment,
or
they
really
should
have
rebates
on
things
like
washing
machines
and
so
for
all
of
you.
We
do
have
that
program
in
place
annually.
The
last
two
years
we
have
budgeted
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
fund
that
program
and
we
have
exceeded
that
fund
last
year
was
the
first
time
that
we
actually
ran
out
of
funding
in
spring
right
when
everyone
was
applying
for
rebates,
and
so
it's
been
successful.
H
The
marketing
around
it
is
is
pretty
aggressive,
especially
in
the
spring,
and
you
can
see
more
about
that
at
savewater,
Santa
fe.com.
H
We
also
have
a
very
big
public
Outreach
part
of
our
program
that
includes
marketing
and
I
know.
All
of
you
hear
lots
of
things
about
different
approaches
to
marketing.
Our
platforms
are
Facebook
and
Instagram
on
social
media,
our
website
savewater
Santa
fe.com.
We
have
a
weekly
radio
show
on
kiswave
and
we
write
a
monthly
article
in
the
new
Mexican
real
estate
guide
and
all
of
those
efforts
are
coordinated,
and
so
we
sort
of
have
a
theme
and
then
we
back
that
theme
up
using
all
of
the
resources
that
we
have
available.
H
But
this
also
includes
demonstration
garden
tours.
We
have
around
our
office
a
couple
demonstration,
Gardens
and
really
proud
of
them.
They
look
the
best
that
they
have
ever
looked
and
are
swarming
with
bees
and
monarch
butterflies,
so
I
hope
that
you
can
stop
by
and
visit
them
at
some
time.
We
also
do
community
tours
and
Community
talks
and
the
Next
Generation
water
Summit,
which
you
might
be
hearing
more
about
the
next
couple
weeks,
is
a
part
of
our
public
marketing
efforts
as
well.
H
We
do
K-12
education
programming
and
we
have
lots
of
different
things
involved
here.
We
have
the
city's
passport
program
which
allows
kids
to
participate
in
many
of
the
Outreach
efforts
from
the
city.
So
as
part
of
that
tour,
kids
get
a
tour
to
Buckman
direct
diversion.
They
get
in-class
presentations
from
water
conservation,
a
recycling
program,
environmental
services,
and
then
they
get
a
field
trip
out
to
the
wastewater
treatment
plant
and
that
was
pre-covered.
H
So,
as
I
mentioned
before,
everything
that
is
brought
to
the
water
conservation
program
first
goes
through
public
input,
then
it
goes
to
our
water
conservation
program.
It
develops
into
a
pilot
program,
which
is
the
program
I'm
talking
about
tonight
and
then
is
formalized
as
a
as
a
as
a
formal
program
and
the
water
conservation
committee
is
such
a
big
part
of
the
work
that
we
do
and
I'd
like
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that
committee
on
the
next
slide.
H
So
the
water
conservation
committee
is
made
up
of
10
people
who
live
in
the
city.
One
of
those
positions
is
held
from
somebody
who
lives
in
the
county,
It
Is
chaired
by
councilor
Romero
worth
and
members
on.
This
committee
serve
two-year
terms
and
they
can
serve
up
to
three
consecutive
terms,
and
currently
we
have
three
vacancies
and
so
I'm
hoping
everyone
listening
to
this
presentation.
If
you
know
someone
who
would
be
interested
I
hope
you'll
send
them
my
way.
H
We
look
for
stakeholder
groups
in
a
couple:
different
categories,
landscaping,
water
harvesting,
building,
construction,
education,
land
use
policies,
technical
expertise
and
hydrology
and
engineering
and
water
quality.
So
if
you
know
of
anybody
with
that
background,
please
send
them
my
way.
We
have
extended
the
deadline
to
apply
until
next
Friday,
but
this
slide.
It
demonstrates
some
of
the
work
that
thewater
conservation
committee
does
we
usually,
depending
on
the
scorecard
approval
at
the
beginning
of
the
year,
we'll
decide
what
our
Focus
subcommittees
will
look
like.
H
But
currently
we
have
a
committee
that
works
on
just
the
outdoor
sector,
a
committee
that
works
on
the
commercial
sector.
We
have
a
joint
City
County
committee,
which
is
made
up
of
a
few
water
conservation
committee
members
and
a
few
members
from
the
water
policy
advisory
committee
with
the
county,
and
then
we
have
small
groups
that
always
pull
together
to
either
assist
me
with
the
scorecard
with
another
small
task
to
look
at
term
limits
to
look
at
recruit
recruitment.
H
It's
a
very,
very
active
Community,
Committee
and
Community,
but
they
also
serve
as
public
input
for
our
program,
and
so
it's
another
level
of
public
input.
Everything
that
we
do
is
vetted
by
the
public
and
Essence,
and
you
know
these
programs
developed
from
this
committee,
so
I'm.
It's
extended
staff
and
expertise
for
me
and
such
a
big
part
of
what
we
do
and
so
I'm
really
really
grateful
for
the
work
that
that
they
do
so.
The
pilot
program
process
that
I've
described
is
the
water
conservation
committee
approves
our
scorecard
at
the
beginning
of
every
year.
H
Subcommittees
are
formed
and
pilot
programs
are
developed
and
in
a
specified
period
of
time
we
collect
data
and
we've
formalize
the
program
with
budget
allocation
if
necessary.
So
this
is
a
pilot
program
that
has
been
in
progress
for
almost
four
years,
we're
coming
to
you
now
with
the
formal
contract
to
bring
the
budget
allocation
that
this
program
needs
to
become
a
permanent
part
of
our
program.
H
We
have
a
neighborhood
pilot
program
in
the
Navidad
neighborhood,
that's
been
in
place
for
about
a
year
and
a
half
and
there's
lots
to
report
on
that.
We
have
a
tree
smart,
Santa,
Fe
tree
giveaway
pilot
that
we
just
piloted
in
the
spring.
In
three
neighborhoods
that
we're
collecting
data
on
and
it's
in
alignment
with
the
tree,
smart
Santa
Fe
initiative
that
the
city
adopted
about
a
year
ago
as
well.
H
We
have
a
neighborhood
rain,
Garden
pilot
that
should
be
completed
next
year,
that
will
serve
as
an
educational
site
and
then
the
next
Generation
water
Summit.
Even
though
we've
talked
to
the
council
about
it
before
that
is
going
to
be
the
public
Outreach
event
that
we're
hoping
to
adopt
as
a
permanent
part
of
our
program
and
then
the
waterwise
business
program,
which
is
what
I'm
talking
about
today.
H
So
as
we
talk
about
this
commercial
work
and
these
audits
that
are
being
conducted
in
businesses,
I
wanted
to
just
spend
a
little
bit
of
time
to
tell
you
what
the
audit
itself
consists
of.
So
in
this
picture,
there's
a
staff.
He
doesn't
work
with
us
anymore,
Maria
Torres,
but
he's
conducting
the
restaurant
audit.
Here
we
have
general
managers
of
the
pantry
and
the
Rio
Chama
there
engaging
in
our
social
media
campaign.
But
what
happens
is
we
do
presentations
like
this?
The
radio
show
the
ads.
We
get
people
who
are
interested.
H
They
make
a
reservation
if
you
want
to
call
it
on
savewater
santafe.com
and
then
Glenn
schepauer
with
the
Santa
Fe
green
chamber
of
comment.
Commerce
makes
initial
contact
with
the
business
and
establishes
a
preliminary
visit
an
audit
date
and
then
sets
up
an
auditor
through
the
Santa
Fe
Community
College.
H
The
preliminary
visit
is
made
by
the
green
chamber.
The
audit
is
conducted
and
a
report
is
issued
for
review
and
I
did
email.
All
of
you
or
Christine
helped
me
get
a
copy
of
an
audit
report
out
to
all
of
you
just
so.
You
can
see
what
that
report
entails
and
the
information
that
is
given
to
the
business
owner,
the
Santa,
Fe,
Community,
College
and
City
staff
review.
H
H
But
what
we
learned
is
that
30
restaurants
were
picked
for
the
initial
pilot,
and
at
that
time
we
had
five
staff,
my
myself
included,
and
it
took
us
30
days
to
audit
30
restaurants,
and
it
took
about
70
percent
of
our
time
every
day
to
conduct
those
audits.
It
was
a
full
job
just
to
be
trained
to
do
the
audit
to
write.
H
H
Another
challenge
that
we
identified
was
a
sub
metering
challenge,
so
many
of
these
restaurants
actually
reside
within
a
shopping
center
and
the
shopping
center
is
Master
metered,
but
every
individual
business
is
not
metered,
and
so,
when
we're
working
with
restaurants.
In
that
context,
they're
not
aware
of
exactly
how
much
water
is
being
used
every
month,
so
any
changes
that
they
would
made.
Also
they
couldn't
really
reflect
on,
and
so
that
was
a
very
big
issue
that
we
needed
to
address.
H
We
did
pilot
a
marketing
approach
and
the
to
the
right
that
diagram.
There
is,
if
their
social
media
toolkit
that
we
offered
every
business
owner
in
different
ways
that
they
could
participate
so
that
we
could
give
them
recognition.
That
part
turned
out
to
be
really
successful
in
getting
other
people
interested,
and
what
we
learned
from
the
pilot
is
that
there's
a
lot
of
water
to
be
saved.
The
California
energy
commission
estimated
that
restaurants
use
about
2
million
gallons
per
year
and
with
approximately
300
restaurants
in
Santa
Fe,
there's
635
million
gallons
to
be
saved.
H
So
what
we
did
is
a
response
to
everything
that
we've
learned-
and
this
has
taken
some
time
is.
We
had
to
form
a
partnership
that
helped
us
fill
all
of
the
different
gaps
that
we
had
identified
in
the
pilot,
so
I'm
going
to
show
you
what
that
partnership
looks
like,
but
it's
called
the
water
efficiency
partnership
or
WEP.
We
established
a
water
efficiency
training
through
the
Santa
Fe
Community
College
resulted
resulting
in
a
badge
to
certification
and
now
includes
micro
credentials,
which
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about.
H
We
looked
for
National
endorsements
to
make
sure
we
were
in
line
with
our
national
leaders
and
we
branded
the
program
as
water
wise
within
accompanying
marketing
campaign
and
so
to
the
left.
You'll
see
the
certified
water,
wise
label
and
so
you'll
see
things
on
the
outside
of
several
restaurants.
Now
and
then.
This
is
just
part
of
our
marketing
campaign.
We
are
certainly
navigating
a
life
with
less
water,
and
so
we
take
different
components
of
that,
and
so
this
is
our
restaurant
piece
that
is
part
of
this
marketing
campaign.
H
So
this
is
the
web
partnership
and
building
Partnerships
is
a
very
big
part
of
our
scorecard.
We
just
know
that
we
can't
do
the
work
alone
and
the
more
Partners
we
have
we're,
not
only
helping
them
meet
their
goals,
but
we're
helping
meet
ours
as
well,
and
we're
sharing
resources
to
do
that,
and
so
at
the
very
center
of
this
partnership
you
have
the
water
conservation
office
at
the
top.
You
have
oh
shoot.
You
have
the
Santa
Fe
Community
College,
who
was
an
education
partner.
H
The
commercial
program
results
to
date.
During
our
work
we
did
win
the
2020
most
sustainable
mid-sized
city
in
the
U.S
award
from
the
green
Builder
Coalition,
and
received
lots
of
great
PR
for
that
for
all
of
the
efforts
of
the
city,
and
we
also
get
that
we
do.
We
did
get
that
endorsement
from
the
EPA
water
sense
program,
which
I
really
am
excited
about.
H
We
have
trained
18
Auditors
to
date
and
me
and
my
staff
are
included
in
that
list.
12
have
been
certified
to
do
audits
on
the
city's
behalf.
We
have
audited
73
restaurants
that
have
been
certified
water,
wise,
five
hotels,
two
shopping
centers
with
a
total
of
41
businesses
and
the
Children's
Museum
just
participated
not
too
long
ago.
H
We
did
a
recent
campaign
just
weeks
ago,
in
our
monthly
article
on
the
real
estate
guide
and
I,
had
Glenn
on
the
radio
show
and
almost
immediately
we
had
21
more
restaurants,
who
were
interested,
eight
hotels
wanting
to
participate,
and
we
have
a
lot
of
calls
on
short-term
rentals
and
so
right
now
we're
looking
at
vacation
rentals
and
doing
an
assessment
on
whether
we
want
to
try
to
include
them
into
this
program.
But
we've
been
really
getting
a
lot
of
interest,
which
is
great.
H
Hopefully,
this
this
presentation
will
get
us
even
more
interest,
so
the
water
savings
from
direct
actions
taken.
This
is
from
Auditors
going
in
conducting
the
audit
fixing
leaks,
changing
out
to
pre-rinch
sprayers
and
aerators
has
been
2.3
million
gallons
of
water
per
like
to
date,
and
so
for
all
of
the
work.
That's
being
done,
we've
already
saved
a
lot
of
water
and
the
work
is
just
you
know.
It's
been
a
really
successful
program.
H
We
certainly
are
leading
the
way
with
this
type
of
work.
We
have
gained
interest
from
Santa
Fe
county,
the
Albuquerque,
Water,
Authority,
Bernalillo
and
Rio
Rancho
are
take,
are
all
taking
advantage
of
our
online
training
and
we
have
had
interest
from
the
City
of
Tucson
and
the
city
of
El
Paso,
asking
less
about
our
model
and
how
we
kind
of
put
this
program
together.
H
So
the
sixty
thousand
dollar
breakdown
for
this
contract
I
just
wanted
to
address
this
in
its
own
slide
by
quoting
one
of
the
the
lines
in
the
memo
and
the
funding.
Invisible
Source
allows
for
the
Santa
Fe
Community
College
to
facilitate
training
of
water
professionals
and
certify
them
and
compensate
them
to
conduct
water
conservation
audits.
H
So
this
program
meets
several
of
our
scorecard
goals,
which
is
really
important
to
me,
because
it's
a
process
that's
been
really
successful.
For
us.
We
focus
on
we've
been
trying
to
focus
on
the
outdoor
sector.
I
know
Jesse's
been
up
quite
a
bit
talking
about
all
the
low-hanging
fruit.
We've
done
a
lot
at
the
residential
end,
and
this
outdoor
sector
is
a
new
piece
that
we're
looking
at
and
once
we
finalize
the
commercial
program,
you
know
that's
going
to
be
a
whole
other
part
that
we
add
to
our
portfolio
our
rebate
program.
H
Now
we
can
change
that
to
allow
for
commercial
incentives
as
well
as
landscape
irrigation
meters.
We
are
training
the
next
generation
of
water
professionals
through
our
partnership
with
youthworks.
They
help
us
meet
several
partnership
goals
and
it
formalizes
this
water-wise
business
goal
by
taking
it
out
of
a
pilot
stage
and
implementing
it
as
a
permanent
program
and
I
do
realize
that
I
didn't
put
in
the
slide
about
youth
works
and
I
should
have
done
that
or
maybe
I
did,
but
just
real
briefly.
H
We
did
engage
with
youth
work
and
we
were
looking
at
ways
to
meet
our
social
Equity
goal
and
we're
looking
at
a
neighborhood
pilot
in
the
Navia,
their
neighborhood
that
we're
already
in
for
youth
Works
to
go
in
with
professional
Auditors
and
to
do
audits
on
the
outdoor
sector.
So
landscapes
in
that
neighborhood
and
help
us
get
more
information
that
might
lead
to
a
different
pilot
program.
But
we
need
that
initial
groundwork
done
first
and
so
we're
engaging
with
them.
H
It's
a
really
great
group
to
work
with
it's
our
first
opportunity
to
work
with
them
and
we're
super
excited,
and
these
these
teenagers
will
be
able
to
go
through
the
curriculum.
The
auditing
program
at
the
Santa
Fe
Community
College
and
earn
micro
credentials
which
they
can
list
on
their
resumes,
and
that
may
be
really
great.
B
You
that's
very
inspiring
and
couldn't
be
more
timely,
given
all
the
concerns
everyone
has
about
our
water
availability,
Colorado
River
issues,
water
in
the
future,
to
see
that
we're
not
only
leading
the
country
when
it
comes
to
conservation,
but
thanks
to
you
and
the
work
of
your
team
and
the
Partnerships
you've
forged,
we
continue
to
find
more
ways
to
conserve
water
and
recognize
that
the
best
source
of
new
water
is
to
save
the
water
we've
got.
So
thank
you
for
that
really
comprehensive
and
very
uplifting
presentation
questions
from
the
yes
councilwoman
Villarreal.
I
H
Mr
mayor
council
Villarreal,
so
it
was
the
Next
Generation
water
Summit
that
actually
connected
us
with
a
technology
group
called
uponor
and
they
had
a
product
called
Finn
and
Finn
was
being
used
in
the
residential
sector
and
it
actually
is
so
precise
that
it
can
be
placed
in
a
home
and
it
can
tell
you
which
appliance
is
leaking
water
based
off
its
water
signature.
So
a
toilet
is
licking
or
so
it's
a
very
Advanced.
H
This
company
was
looking
to
adapt
that
to
the
commercial
sector
and
we
were
needing
that
kind
of
device
in
our
work,
and
so
we
purchased
a
handful
of
meters
and
placed
them
in
some
of
the
restaurants
and
our
piloting
right
now
how
they
communicate
with
the
restaurant
owner
and
that's
on.
You
know
whether
savings
are
taking
place
and
and
how
they're
using
that
to
to
to
look
at
that.
But
it
is
a
challenge
because
there's
a
lot
of
restaurants
that
are
stand
freestanding
that
have
their
own
meter.
H
I
I
The
other
question
I
had
was:
does
a
restaurant
need
to
be
a
certain
size
or
is
there
a
criteria
that
you
all
follow
that
helps
you
determine
who's
going
to
be
selected
for
the
pilot,
so
I'm
sure
there's
a
lot
of
interest,
but
is
there
something
that
you
have
to
follow
saying
this
is
a
restaurant
that
would
be
best
kind
to
do
this,
or
how
do
you
all
make
that
selection.
H
H
You
know
we,
we
have
a
whole
variety
there,
but
since
we've
stepped
out
of
that-
and
we
opened
it
up
to
other
restaurants,
you
know
that's
not
really
a
limiting
factor
for
us
anymore,
but
on
the
hotel
end,
it
is
a
little
bit
different
because
you
have
small
hotels
and
then
you
have
very
large
hotels.
H
Mr
mayor
council
viral
right
now,
the
program
is
open
to
restaurants,
hotels,
shopping
centers
and
other
commercial
facilities,
and
so
we
just
did
the
Children's
Museum
and
we
were
wondering
how
different
that
would
be
from
some
of
our
other
commercial
sectors
and
it
actually
kind
of
was
the
same.
I
mean
if
it
has
the
restroom.
You
know
how
many
people
visit
that
facility,
and
you
know
what
other
water
appliances
are
being
used.
Then
an
audit
can
still
be
done,
and
so
it
was
nice
that
that
training
could
cover
several
different
commercial
facilities.
I
Okay,
thank
you
and
then
last
question.
Thank
you
for
the
audit
example.
It
was
very
thorough.
There
was
a
lot
of
detail
that
they
provided
for
the
restaurant
and
I'm
curious,
since
that
was
done
in
2019.
Do
you
all
follow
up
to
see
if
they've
implemented
any
of
your
suggestions?
I
know,
there's
like
different
tiers
of
what
you
suggest,
there's
like
low
hanging,
fruit,
kind
of
more
Technical
and
then
a
bigger
evaluation
of
things.
They
could
do
that
probably
cost
more
money
for
them
to
implement
so
curious.
I
If,
in
this
example,
were
you
able
to
see
some
changes
in
what
they
in
how
they
did
business
or
how
they,
how
they
looked
at
their
systems,.
H
Mr
mayor
council
Bureau,
it's
a
really
great
question.
When
we
were
looking
at
this
program,
we
were
hoping
that
the
water
conservation
staff
could
actually
be
the
follow-up.
We
could
that
we
could
track
them
from
that
point
forward,
make
sure
they
had
signage
off
of
them
are
rebates
because
they
became
available
right
now.
We
do
have
one
vacant
position
that
we're
trying
to
hold
to
to
fill
we're,
hoping
as
we
build
that
capacity
that
that
responsibility
will
fall
on
our
office,
because
that's
really
where
that
data
should
reside.
H
But
right
now
we're
not
really
following
up
except
to
say
that
some
of
the
restaurants
that
we
did
audit
have
you
know
as
a
result
of
covid,
did
have
to
close
down,
and
so
we
are
keeping
track
of
the
active
restaurants
on
our
list.
But
the
follow-up,
I'm
hoping
will
be
more
detailed.
Once
we
build
a
little
bit
more
capacity,
great.
B
Questions
I
have
one
follow-up:
can
you
put
in
a
plug
for
Ion
water
for
us
and
tell
folks
why
that's
such
a
useful
app
and
how
they
can
easily
access
it
and
get
more
people
signed
up
to
use
that
I?
Think
it's
a
tremendous
individualized
personal
way
to
take
responsibility
for
water
conservation.
H
Mr
Mayor,
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
do
that,
just
as
part
of
our
commercial
water,
wise
program,
all
of
our
participants
who
are
individually
metered,
are
on
my
own
water
and
are
able
to
use
that
app
to
even
look
at
shift
changes,
and
you
know
certain
staff
does
a
defrosting.
You
know
some
way
of
others
run
it
under
the
sink
and
they're
able
to
actually
differentiate
between
like
who's
on
staff
at
that
time.
So
it's
really
interesting
in
the
commercial
sector
at
the
residential
end.
A
H
Wood
has
a
whole
program
based
off
what
he
sees
an
eye
on
water
every
day,
and
it
really
allows
you
to
look
at
your
water
use
on
an
hourly
daily
monthly
basis.
You
can
be
notified
of
something
unusually
unusual
happening
within
24
hours,
and
so
you
don't
have
to
get
that
really
high
bill.
You
don't
have
to
suffer
any
kind
of
infrastructure
damage
as
a
result
of
the
leak.
H
A
B
A
B
Madam
clerk
I
believe.
The
next
item
that
we're
looking
at
is
r
that
I.
F
Are
correct?
It's
item
are
consideration
of
a
resolution
sponsored
by
mayor
Weber,
counselor,
Casa
and
counselor.
Chavez
is
the
resolution
affirming
the
partnership
of
the
city
of
Santa
Fe
county
and
the
City
of
Santa
Fe
to
develop
strategies
and
actions
to
end
homelessness
and
director
Kira
Ochoa
is
already
ready.
I
B
A
motion
and
there's
a
second
and
we
have
both
director
Ochoa
and
commissioner
Hughes-
is
here
from
the
county
and
we're
eager
to
hear
from
both
of
you,
director,
choa.
J
C
Thank
you
Mr,
Mayor
and
Council,
and
thank
you
to
the
mayor
and
councilor
cassette
and
Council
Chavez
for
sponsoring
this
resolution
and
we
certainly
enjoyed
having
counselor
casted
at
the
commission
meeting
where
we
passed
this
a
little
while
ago
and
I'm
happy
to
be
here
on
this
very
important
indication
when
you're
passing
it
and
as
Kira
mentioned.
This
is
not
marking
the
beginning
of
a
partnership.
It's
a
partnership,
that's
been
going
on
for
a
while,
but
it
needs
to
be
strengthened
if
we're
going
to
really
be
successful
and
it's
such
an
important
issue.
C
C
So
much
attention
is
being
paid
to
to
it,
and
so
many
good
things
have
happened
just
in
the
recent
past
Santa
Fe
Suites
is
a
big
success,
largely
led
by
the
city
and
now
being
managed
by
Saint
Elizabeth
shelter,
the
Consuelos
Place
shelter,
which
is
mostly
the
city
and
the
Coalition
Dan
homelessness,
but
a
little
bit
of
help
from
the
county
and
then
more
projects
coming
forwards.
C
The
Lamplighter
project
on
Cerrillos
Road,
but
the
county
and
the
city
are
doing
together.
The
Nueva
Sakia
project
that
the
county
is
taking
the
lead
on
to
provide
more
affordable
housing
around
the
city
is
going
to
partner
in
that,
and
so
there's
just
so
many
good
things
going
on
and
I
just
I
just
really
enjoy
being
part
of
a
community
where
both
the
city
and
the
county
and
the
governing
bodies
of
both
organizations
are
so
caring
about
this
issue.
It's
really
really
important
and
really
appreciated.
So
thank
you
very
much
and
I.
B
Contact.
Thank
you,
commissioner,
other
questions
for
our
partner
in
this.
This
and
many
other
undertakings,
commissioner,
we're
great
grateful
for
your
your
your
collaborative
attitude
and
your
approach
to
cooperation
and
blending
our
our
resources
and
our
shared
commitment.
It's
a
great
working
partnership,
yeah
councilor
Garcia.
Please.
B
L
Just
I
guess:
I
got
one
question
because
I
want
to
make
sure
as
we're
moving
forward
with
this
amendment
or
this
resolution
that
we're
setting
goals
that
we
should
be
striving
to
achieve
and
and
with
that
being
said,
on
page
four
of
the
resolution
under
item
three
building
housing
units,
we're
aiming
to
have
a
goal
of
at
least
100
to
200
units
per
year
and
the
reason
I
bring
that
up
is
because
item
you
go
into
item
number
four
is
talking
about
the
vouchers
and
I've
heard
so
much
over
the
past
six
months
to
a
year
that
folks
have
vouchers,
but
there's
not
available
units.
L
So
with
that
being
said,
is
100
to
200
the
appropriate
number,
or
should
we
achieve
higher,
because
I
want
to
ensure
that
with
item
number
four,
should
somebody
be
eligible
for
a
voucher,
they're
able
to
use
it
and
get
housed.
I
I,
don't
like
that.
We
have
folks
that
have
vouchers
and
they're
not
able
to
find
housing.
So
the
question
is:
is
100
to
200
gonna,
going
to
be
able
to
allow
for
folks
that
are
currently
receiving
vouchers,
be
housed
or
should
do?
We
need
housing
stock
inventory
exceeding
100
to
200.
C
So
50
units
at
least
we
need
right
and
I,
think
it'd
be
great
to
do
more
than
100
to
200
a
year.
But
we
also
know
that
you
know
projects
take
time.
There's
an
effort.
Santa
Fe
Suites
was
kind
of
easy
pickings
because
even
before
the
pandemic
had
come,
the
owner
of
the
hotel
had
come
to
me
and
said:
I
want
to
sell
this
to
you
and
it
was
already
set
up
as
to
efficiency.
C
Apartments
no
renovations
were
needed,
but
there
aren't
any
other
options
like
that:
The
Lamplighter
needs
Renovations
any
future
Motel
we
buy
we'll
need
at
least
enough
renovations
to
make
it
housing
instead
of
a
motel,
and
so
the
Nuevo
secure
project
that
the
county
is
doing
would
be
over
100
units.
But
that's
going
to
take
us
at
least
another
year,
so
I
think
I
think
100
to
200
is
somewhere
in
between
what
we
really
need
and
what's
realistic,
and
so
it's
probably
a
good
goal.
If
we
could
meet
that
I
think
we'd
be
doing
something
significant.
C
L
Awesome.
Thank
you,
commissioner
Hughes.
That's
the
only
question
I
had
just
thank
you
to
commissioner
Hughes.
Thank
you.
Please
pass
along
to
your
our
thanks
to
your
fellow
Commissioners,
look
forward
to
strengthening
this
project
because
I
think
we've
all
said.
This
is
an
issue
that
we
as
a
community
need
a
tackle.
It's
not
a
city
issue,
it's
not
a
county
issue.
It's
a
community
issued.
It
involves
all
of
us
to
really
achieve
this,
and
so
so
thank
you
for
the
time
and
effort
and
that's
all
I
got
Mr.
Thank
you.
It.
B
Is
a
great
partnership
on
the
voucher
issue?
I
think
it's
important
to
note
that
there
are
landlords
who
used
to
take
vouchers
and
we're
losing
the
participation
of
some
of
those
landlords,
because,
while
the
vouchers
are
safe,
guaranteed
and
frequently
a
very
good
renter
or
occupant
of
a
unit
with
our
shortage
of
overall
units,
sometimes
it's
more
advantageous
to
a
landlord
to
just
take
Market
rents
rather
than
accepting
a
voucher.
B
B
M
Just
in
case,
anybody
who
is
listening
or
watching
does
not
know
about
not
only
is
commissioner
Hughes
worked
on
this
from
the
County's
perspective,
but
if
you
could
explain
your
professional
role,
which
really
shows
your
expertise
in
this
area,
I
think
that
that
would
be
beneficial
for
anybody.
Listening.
C
C
M
Wonderful,
thank
you
so
much,
commissioner,
and
and
thank
you
for
providing
that
context,
because
it
really
does
show
your
expertise
in
the
area
and
how
lucky
we
are
to
have
you
as
one
of
the
representatives
of
the
area
of
the
community
of
the
county
who
is
working
in
this
both
in
this
field
from
the
policy
perspective,
as
well
as
professionally.
B
F
It
was
okay,
I
couldn't
tell
thank
you.
F
I
know
I
mean
but
okay,
perfect.
That's
why
I
wanted
to
confirm
counselor
Lee
Garcia.
B
F
Yes,
the
next
item
on
the
agenda
is
item.
10A
is
approval
of
a
settlement
agreement
between
Enterprise
Bank
and
Trust,
the
city
of
Santa,
Fe
and
Santa
Fe
county
to
resolve
the
disputes
alleged
and
Enterprise
Bank
and
Trust
versus
the
Board
of
County
commissioners
of
Santa
Fe
county
and
the
City
of
Santa
Fe.
It's
case
number.
F
B
To
approve
from
councilman
Dallas,
second
from
councilor
cassette,
you
have
the
floor,
sir.
A
Santa
Fe
County
and
the
purpose
of
this
settlement
is
to
resolve
mitigation
brought
by
the
bank
against
the
city
and
county
and
the
goal.
There
was
to
try
to
clear
the
title
to
certain
lots
that
the
bank
acquired
through
foreclosure
action.
L
Of
some
affordable
housing
opportunity,
agreement
requirements.
A
This
is
a
creative
settlement,
I
think
that
will
allow
the
Bank
the
city
and
the
county
to
have
some
certainty
over
what
happens
in
the
future.
It
gives
some
money
potentially.
L
A
The
title
to
these
lots
and
allows
the
bank
to
try
to
Market
them
so
I
guess
I
would
just
like
to.
L
Camp
last
night
considered
and
approved
this
settlement,
but
it
will
only
be
final
and
binding
settlement
if
the.
B
Very
good
Madam
clerk,
we
have
a
motion
and
we
have
a
second
you
want
to.
Please
call
the
roll.
E
B
F
B
E
N
First
of
all,
we've
had
some
progress
in
getting
the
Artful
life
Leadership
to
come
back
to
the
table
and
for
you
to
work
with
you
all
about
recommendations.
Moving
forward,
I'm
committed
draft
of
an
email
right
now
to
send
all
of
you.
We
have
a
couple
of
dates
that
we
think
will
work
for
them
and
will
work
for
you
all
some
of
the
parameters
for
this
next
meeting
that
we're
working
around
for
scheduling
a
meeting
for
nine
different
elected
officials
who,
most
of
which
have
full-time
jobs
and
are
very
busy.
It
is
difficult.
N
Finding
a
weeknight
that
there
is
not
a
city
committee
meeting
does
not
exist.
So
if
we're
to
meet
at
night,
that
looks
at
either
meeting
at
a
Federal
holiday
meeting
on
a
Friday
night
or
meeting
over
the
weekend.
We
didn't
want
to
do
that
to
you
and
so
we're
offering
up
two
dates:
October
11th
and
October
13th
from
11
A.M
to
2
P.M.
N
N
Some
of
the
other
parameters
that
we're
working
around
was
trying
to
give
you
ample
time
to
coordinate
your
schedules,
giving
you
giving
the
community
ample
time
so
that
we
don't
hold
this
meeting
into
days,
leading
up
to
indigenous
people's
Day
weekend,
but
also
trying
to
move
as
swiftly
as
we
can
I'll
send
that
out
shortly
we
are
still
working
with
Artful
life
Leadership.
Our
team
about
the
parameters
I
think
we're
intending.
N
So
more
information
will
be
coming
for
you
tonight
about
that.
I
want
to
apply
for
you.
Others
May
mention
this
tonight
as
well.
Councilor,
B,
Garcia
and
I
were
able
to
participate
last
week
in
a
swear
again
ceremony
for
seven
new
police
officers
that
came
to
the
city,
San
Diego
Police
Department
as
laterals,
which
is
great,
we've
seen
a
real
increase
in
the
number
of
law
enforcement
officers
who
have
joined
the
Santa
Fe
police
department
since
Chief
Joy
took
over
and
we're
very
excited
as
I
think.
N
As
long
as
the
people
outside
of
city
government
who
utilize
the
United
States
system,
vendors
and
other
people
who
are
regularly
paying
bills
Etc
and
engaging
with
the
city
they're
also
beginning
to
implement
a
training
plan
that
will
probably
kick
into
high
gear
in
October,
where
our
staff
will
begin
to
have
that
expectation
and
the
opportunity
to
begin
learning.
The
new
system
see
what
new
modules
and
options
are
available
and
how
this
will
help
make
our
city
government
work
better
going
forward.
N
Some
good
things
I
want
to
flag
are
that
we
had
a
really
productive
tabletop
exercise
around
a
hypothetical
active
shooter
scenario
that
the
vast
majority
of
the
senior
leadership
participated
in.
It
was
a
really
good
first
step
for
the
city
to
look
at.
Are
we
prepared
for
a
horrible
situation
like
this
to
happen
to
us?
If
not,
what
do
we
need
to
do
to
be
prepared?
How
do
we
work
with
you
all?
How
do
we
work
with
the
community?
N
How
do
we
ensure
that
the
city
government
continues
to
function
if
that
unfortunate
event
does
happen
to
us,
and
so
that
was
a
great
first
step,
I'm
grateful
to
Brian
Williams
and
his
team
Kira
Ochoa
for
leading
this
effort.
And
again
this
is
a
reminder
for
all
of
you.
You
don't
need
your
fobs
to
do
the
training,
but
we
do
have
online
training
that
we're
asking
all
city
employees
to
complete
by
the
end
of
October,
so
you
have
another
month
to
do
that.
N
N
It's
a
huge
project
to
update
websites
for
City
or
for
government
Enterprises
I've
done
it
before
you'd.
Be
surprised
how
many
tens
of
thousands
of
pages
there
are
already
click
here
and
it
takes
you
somewhere
else.
There's
always
going
to
be
some
bumps
on
the
road
and
where
do
I
find
this
and
Etc,
but
really
yeoman's
work
to
get
better
across
the
Finish
Line.
We're
very
excited
about
that
and
then
I.
N
Finally,
want
to
flag,
while
we're
speaking
of
the
city
clerk,
that
we
have
three
city
employees
who
recently
were
named
to
the
40
under
40
top
business
leader
list
for
the
Santa
Fe
Hispanic
chamber
of
commerce,
our
city
clerk
Christian
was
chosen.
The
helsick
Cody,
minich
and
Julie
Sanchez
have
all
been
to
the
list
and
I
think
there's
an
event
Friday
night
that
I'm
guessing
you
all
were
invited
to
so
go
and
celebrate
them.
That's
really
wonderful!
So
thank
you
mayor,
that's
my
report.
Thank.
K
Thank
you,
mayor
members
of
the
governing
body,
I
have
a
couple
announcements
and
then
a
recommendation
that
we
go
into
executive
session.
On
the
announcements
front,
we
have
good
news
in
two
cases:
the
New
Mexico
Supreme
Court
denied
cert
on
the
Santa
Fe
reporter
case.
So
the
court
of
appeals
decision
is
final
and
that's
the
one
about
matters
of
opinion
and
Personnel
cases
on
April,
so
they
upheld
the
city's
application
of
the
law
in
that
case.
K
So
we're
very
happy
about
that
and
then
today
we
found
out
about
a
case
that
was
dismissed
from
federal
district
court.
It's
one
of
our
New
Mexico
surf
cases
in
the
federal
district
court
dismissed
on
the
city's
motion
dismissed
finding
that
our
ordinance
is
is
legal.
It
was
being
challenged
and
rejecting
the
challenge
to
that
burden.
Inspire
telecommunications,
allowing
for
a
two
percent
fee,
finding
it's
not
prohibitive
and
found
that
we
were
not
providing
an
unfair
competitive
advantage
to
other
providers.
K
K
So
that's
two
two
cases
with
good
outcomes
for
the
city
in
terms
of
just
some
other
City
matters.
Thank
you
for
everyone
who
has
sent
in
your
nominations
for
the
charter.
Commission
we're
going
to
follow
up
if
you're,
if
your
nominee
hasn't
sent
in
their
application,
we'll
follow
up
just
to
make
sure
that
they're
reminded
that
the
deadline
is
this
week.
K
We
have
quite
a
few
of
them
already,
but
there's
a
couple
that
we
haven't
received
back
or
a
handful
and
if
you
have
any
nominations
that
have
not
been
made,
I
think
we're
missing.
Just
a
maybe
two
or
three:
please
alert
Irene
Romero
about
those
folks
so
that
she
can
get
them
the
fillable
form.
K
So
thank
you
for
your
work
on
that
and
then
we're
planning
to
do
the
appointments
at
the
next
governing
body
media
in
October.
So
it's
coming
up
very
soon
and
then
we
will
get
the
process
going
starting
in
October
and
it
will
be
meeting
monthly,
at
least
with
that
group
of
people
Jesse
sent
out
an
announcement
about
our
new
policy.
Analyst
Connor
Murphy,
who
starts
on
Monday
he'll,
be
in
orientation
that
day
I
think
most
of
you
have
already
signed
up
for
a
time
to
meet
with
him
and
with
the
whole
legislative
team.
K
So
thank
you.
If
you
haven't,
we
still
time
slots
set
aside
and
we
can
add
new
ones
if
you
need
one,
but
thanks
for
signing
up,
so
we
can
get
him
oriented
as
quickly
as
possible
as
to
the
priorities
of
the
governing
body
and
to
meet
all
of
you
and
and
know
what
you've
already
been
working
on,
what
you'd
like
to
be
working
on,
and
so
that
we
can
have
a
a
global
tracking
of
that
and
and
a
global
awareness
of
all
those
of
those
interests.
K
Finally,
we
met
with
this
County
Attorney's
Office
this
weekend.
The
first
ever
known,
City
Attorney's
Office
county
attorney's
office
lunch
we're
hoping
to
make
that
at
least
an
annual
event,
and
we
just
know
it
was
the
last
22
years.
It
hadn't
happened
before
so
we
were
happy
to
get
that
new
tradition
started
and
finally,
I
would
like
to
recommend
an
executive
session
to
discuss
at
least
one
case
in
particular
and
I.
Think
I
pulled
up
last
meetings
agenda.
K
Yes,
thank
you.
This
is
to
be
to
discuss
the
Mark
Edwards
at
all
the
Interfaith
Community
shelter
at
pizza
place
and
the
City
of
Santa
Fe.
This
is
under
the
open
means,
act,
section,
10,
15,
1,
part,
H7,
attorney-client,
privilege,
discussion
regarding
threatened
and
pending
litigation,
in
which
the
city
is
a
participant.
E
B
F
Yes,
counselor
Lindell
councilor
Rivera,
yes,
councilman,
councilwoman,
Berea,
yes,
councilor
Casa;
yes,
counselor
Travis;
yes,
councilor.
We
Garcia,
yes,
counselor,
Michael,
Garcia,
yes,
mayor
Weber,
yes,
yes,
motion
has
been
approved.
B
Thank
you
for
those
of
you
here
or
watching
listening
at
home,
we're
going
to
go
into
executive
session
and
be
briefed
on
a
matter
that
is
involving
pending
litigation
and
we'll
be
back
as
soon
as
we
can.
Thank
you.
B
We
have
a
quorum,
so
maybe
we
can
come
back
out
of
executive
session
and
and
begin
with
the
rest
of
the
agenda
from
there
Council
Rivera.
Do
you
have
a
motion
to
make.
E
B
F
F
City
staff
has
been
amazing
and
we've
had
I've
had
so
much
grace
because
it's
really
been
a
party
of
one
doing
a
lot
of
updates,
so
everyone
has
been
awesome,
but
I
think
that's
probably
my
primary
update
I
also
just
wanted
to
let
the
governing
body
know
that
we've
started
looking
at
vendors
to
help
us
transition
to
an
electronic
record.
Setting
record
Center.
Excuse
me
that
second
can
of
Red.
F
Bull
is
probably
kicking
in
right
now,
so
we
are
looking
at
technology
and
with
it
to
make
sure
that
we
have
infrastructure
in
place
for
a
electronic
record
Center,
which
is
very
exciting
and
there's
one
other
update.
I
haven't.
Oh
we're
also
working
right
now
with
procurement
for
our
online
signature
and
contributions
for
the
next
election
cycle,
which
is
very,
very
exciting.
We've
done
a
lot
of
work
and
I.
F
Think
I
mentioned
I
recently
went
to
a
national
convert
to
a
convention
with
other
public
campaign,
financing
cities
and
counties
and
municipalities
from
across
the
country.
So
we're
really
excited
to
take
what
we
learned
and
bring
it
back,
but
also
to
get
into
modern
technology,
with
online
signatures
online,
nominating
petitions
and
online
five
dollar
contributions.
So
that's
all
it
works.
That's
all
I
got.
B
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Let's
move
quickly
to
the
opportunity
for
communications
from
the
governing
body
and
I'll
start
with
Elsa
Chavez
to
my
left.
O
Thank
you,
mayor
I
just
wanted
to
also
recognize
our
city
clerk
I.
Think
it's
amazing
I'm,
looking
forward
to
a
Friday
for
the
Hispanic
chamber
of
commerce,
40
under
40,
and
just
the
amazing
group,
they
are
I,
think
they're
really
setting
the
path
for
future
generations
to
come.
It's
really
exciting
to
see.
I
went
to
high
school
with
all
these
individuals,
so
I
keep
like
telling
everyone
I'm
just
so
lucky
to
be
like
surrounded
by
peers
that
are
making
a
difference,
working
hard
and
kind
of
Blazing
that
path.
B
L
A
L
L
So
just
big!
Congratulations
on
that
and
then
I
do
got
a
couple
of
things.
I
want
to
bring
up
recently
the
acting
Secretary
of
the
Department
of
Health
rescinded.
All
the
public
health
emergency
orders
that
we
have
been
operating
under
for
the
last
two
years
and
I've
I
guess
I'll
seeking
clarification
from
our
City
attorney.
How
does
that
affect
the
stipulation
we
had
in
place
regarding
the
city
manager
signing
contracts
over
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
if
it
affects
it,
if
it
doesn't
affect
it?
L
If
that
can
that
update
can
be
provided
to
me
and
then
I
guess
it
can
get
and
in
alignment
with
that,
if
we
can
be
sent
a
list
of
the
contracts
that
have
been
signed
over
200
000
from
the
city
manager,
I,
don't
last
day,
I
looked
I
hadn't
received
an
update
since
April
showing
the
March
contract.
So
if
we
can,
if
I
can
get
that
update,
that
would
be
fantastic,
Midtown
update
a
little
concerned
in
regards
to
the
path
that
is
currently
taken.
L
L
So
with
that
being
said,
I
think
my
concerns
rely
around.
If
this
was
a
private
entity
going
through
the
process
you,
the
the
property
owner,
would
be
well
on
the
know
of
what's
going
on.
L
Where
are
we
heading,
and
in
this
instance,
the
property
owner
is
the
public
and
the
public
is
being
kept
in
the
dark
in
regards
to
what
is
going
on
so
I
know
that
the
update
from
the
Midtown
development
team
said
that
there
would
be
delays
where
we
would
potentially
be
voting
on
something
in
December,
given
we're
two
months
behind
any
updates
to
us
I'm
very
concerned
that
this
is
going
to
become
a
very
Rush
process
and
we're
not
going
to
give
time
to
the
public
that
is
sufficiently
due
to
them.
L
L
I
know
that
when
Artful
life
submitted
a
letter
to
us,
they
had
a
list
of
Demands
regarding
certain
demands
that
would
be
met
before
they
met
with
us
and
I'd
like
to
ensure
that
any.
If
any
demands
are
appease
to
that
they'd
be
brought
before
the
governing
body.
Given
that
this
is
a
governing
body
process
and
any
parameters
are
determined
by
us
as
the
governing
body,
not
any
other
entity,
but
thank
you
for
moving
forward
with
that.
I
look
forward
to
having
that
continued
conversation
with
that.
No
other
updates,
Mr
Matt
thank.
P
Oh
thank
you,
mayor
I
I
thought
that
I
would
just
have
a
little
remembrance
tonight
of
my
mother.
It
would
be
her
105th
birthday
and
when
she
was
much
younger
at
I,
think
102
or
103
I
asked
her
well
how's
life
and
she
looked
at
me
and
she
said:
are
you
kidding
me
it's
taken
forever,
so
I
thought
that
I
would
wish
her
a
happy
birthday
by
letting
her
know
that
she
still
makes
me
laugh
on
almost
a
daily
basis
and
I'm
grateful
for
those
memories.
D
Thank
you
mayor
I,
too,
want
to
Echo
congratulations
to
everybody,
who's
receiving
the
40
under
40
Awards,
and
also
specifically
to
our
city
team
and
to
our
city,
clerk
and
Julie
Sanchez,
and
our
new
housing,
employee,
Cody
Minch.
So
that's
pretty
exciting.
He
was
in
front
of
the
finance
committee,
I
think
recently
so
great
great
to
see
that
so
congratulations.
Everyone
also
want
to
remind
everybody
you
heard
earlier
tonight.
There
are
three
vacancies
in
the
water
conservation
committee.
We
have
extended
that
deadline
till
next
Friday.
D
So
if
you
are
interested
in
the
community,
we
are
looking
for
and
by
resolution
required
to
look
for
people
from
particular
stakeholder
groups
and
if
it's
something
that
you're
interested
in,
please
contact
me
or
contact
Christine
Chavez,
the
water
conservation
manager
for
the
city
and
that's
all
I
have
thank
you.
Ma'am
thank.
M
You
so
much
Mr,
Mayor
I,
just
want
to
say
Alicia
natova
to
the
Jewish
Community
our
happy
New
Year.
It
is
Rosh
Hashanah.
Well,
it
was
Rosh
Hashanah.
Now
we
are
in
the
high
holy
days.
M
So
a
little
I'm
sure
I
talked
about
this
last
year,
because
it's
one
of
my
favorite
times
of
the
year,
the
10
days
in
between
Rosh
Hashanah
and
Yom
Kippur.
You
are
supposed
to
be
reflecting
on
the
year
and
working
on
forgiving
those
who
have
wronged
you
and
also
working
on
getting
the
Forgiveness
of
those.
You
have
wronged
and
I
just
find
this
this
time
period
a
really
beautiful
time
to
reflect-
and
you
know
I,
think
I-
think
there
was
some
point
where
you're
like
and
then
we
forgive
all
the
debts.
M
We
don't
do
that
anymore
because
we
live
in
America
I'm,
not
sure
any
country
does
that,
but
when
you
really
think
about
the
emotional
deaths
or
the
moral
depth
that
you
owe
and
how
do
we
both
see
how
we
can
improve
and
really
that
self-reflection
is
so
hard.
It's
so
easy
to
think
about
with
this
person
wronged
me,
but
but
where
have
I
been
a
participant
and
then
also?
M
How
do
you
let
go
of
any
hurt
or
anger
that
you
are
holding
towards
someone
else
and
I
love
that
there
is
that
established
reset
and
that
there
is
this
week
and
a
half
where
there
is
this
focus,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
share
that
with
everyone
I
think
it's
a
really
beautiful
practice.
M
You
know
it's
something
that
we
frequently
try
to
do,
but
having
that
set
aside
is
is
really
lovely,
so
means
too
it's
not
exactly
a
happy
New
Year,
but
a
good
a
good
year
ahead,
as
we
know
that
the
world
is
not
always
happy,
but
we
do
look
for
good
in
it
wherever
we
can
and
then
I
also
wanted
to
wish
a
very
happy
birthday
to
my
father
tomorrow.
M
My
dad
might
be
turning
70.,
but
I'm,
not
sure
if
I
was
supposed
to
say
that
in
public
but
my
father,
many
of
you
know
him
and
you
know
I've
interacted
with
him
when
he
was
here
in
the
city,
but
he's
just
one
of
the
most
most
incredible
thoughtful
introspective
people
that
I
know
and
I
am
so
grateful
to
have
him
as
a
father.
So
just
really
want
to
wish
him
a
very,
very
happy
birthday.
M
A
Thank
you,
mayor
I
would
just
also
like
to
congratulate
all
the
recipients
of
the
40
under
40.
good
work.
Thank
you
for
a
city
manager
for
mentioning.
We
attended
the
the
lateral
officers
soaring
in
ceremony,
which
is
very
nice
and
on
our
way
to
a
fully
stopped
Police
Department,
hopefully,
and
so
thank
you
for
all
the
work
there.
A
I
would
like
to
I
guess
before
the
meeting
for
Artful
life
in
the
city
see
if
we
could
just
be
kept
up
to
speed
on
you
know
what
what
dialogue
we're
going
to
have
and
how
we
are
going
to
participate
in
that
as
a
governing
body
and
all
the
all
the
participants,
and
so
you
know
just
kind
of
to
prepare
for
it
as
well,
because
the
community
has
obviously
been
reaching
out
in
regards
to
what's
happening
and
I
do
appreciate
you
working
on
that
and
getting
getting
this
going
because
I
think
it's
something
that
needs
to
be
addressed.
A
And,
lastly,
just
wishing
my
wife
a
deleted
23rd
anniversary
on
the
18th,
so
you
know
my
grandfather
used
to
say
he
was
married
to
my
grandmother
for
60
70
years
and
every
year.
He
would
say
60
years
with
the
wrong
woman.
It's
more.
A
And
I
say
that
to
my
wife
and
she
yes
and
she
knows
the
reason
why
yeah
longevity
and
it
was
just
a
joke
so
to
lighten
up
the
room
a
little
bit
the
anniversary
and
thank
you
thank
you.
Counselor.
O
Thank
you,
mayor,
I'm,
sorry,
I
forgot
something
very
important.
This
week's
two
very
important
men
were
born.
My
partner,
Christopher
beaume
birthday
is
tomorrow.
He
turned
37,
so
I
want
to
wish
him
a
happy
birthday
and
my
dad
turns
73
on
Friday.
So
and
those
that
know
me
know
how
close
I
am
to
my
father.
O
B
You
I'm
going
to
run
through
some
things
that
I
want
to
call
the
people's
attention.
I
think
that
I
appreciate
counselor
cassette,
mentioning
the
Jewish
New
Year
in
the
upcoming
fast
on
Yom
Kippur,
everybody
I
wish
who
will
be
fasting
that
day
an
easy
fast
and
the
beginning
of
a
new
year.
B
Some
other
recognitions.
We've
talked
about
the
40
under
40,
but
two
Santa
Fe
restaurants
made
it
onto
the
Traveler's
Choice
best
of
the
best
2022
fine,
dining
restaurants
in
the
entire
United
States
of
America,
says
own
number,
eight
and
Geronimo
number
15
on
the
list.
Congratulations
to
them!
That's
a
great
achievement.
B
Santa
Fe
walked
to
end
Alzheimer's
October
1st,
very
important,
also
on
October
1st
City
of
Santa
Fe
pnm
and
oven
Grid.
Electric
vehicle
car
show
on
The
Plaza
to
celebrate
moving
to
more
renewable
energy
sources
and
the
fleet
that
is
transitioning
in
the
city
of
Santa
Fe
toward
electric
vehicles,
NAMI
Walk
for
mental
Wellness.
We've
commented
in
recent
months
about
the
challenges
in
our
city
and
in
our
state
and
in
the
country
around
mental
and
behavioral
health
issues.
B
If
you
want
to
contribute
to
helping
mental
Wellness,
October
8th
is
the
day
you
can
look
it
up
on
NAMI
Santa
Fe
and
participate
indigenous
people's
day.
October
10th
also
an
important
tradition
to
mark
a
lot
of
good
things
happening
in
our
community
around
so
supporting
each
other
looking
out
for
each
other
helping
each
other,
and
these
are
just
some
of
the
things
that
we
ought
to
Mark
and
give
our
community-wide
support
too.
B
There's
also,
today
National
freedom
from
Hunger
day,
and
we
are
very
fortunate
in
Santa
Fe
that
we
have
a
number
of
organizations
that
are
committed
to
eliminating
hunger
in
Santa
Fe
and
we
support
them
and
they
take
care
of
a
lot
of
people
in
our
community
who
would
otherwise
suffer
from
inadequate
nutrition
and
the
availability
of
food.
B
That
is
what
I
have
it's
seven,
oh
nine
I
think
if
we
wanted
to
move
to
petitions,
skip
the
introduction
of
legislation
and
there's
only
one
item.
Perhaps
we
can
do
that
rapidly.
Madam
clerk
item
15.
F
M
A
million
dollar
Grant
for
the
design
of
the
Aurora
de
los
chamisos
crossing
the
engineering
design.
So
next
steps,
as
we
continue
to
explore
this
connectivity
project
in
the
city
and
in
the
district.
F
We
have
petitions
from
the
floor
so
if
anybody
would
like
to
speak
to
an
item
not
on
the
agenda,
that
is
here
for
public
comment,
they
can
do
so
at
this
time.
If.
B
B
Sir
I
I
probably
wasn't
clear.
The
next
item
on
our
agenda
is
the
introduction
of
the
noise
measure,
and
that
would
be
the
time
to
speak
about
noise
right.
Don't
don't
go
far.
It's
next
up.
B
B
F
Public
comment:
there
is
no
action.
This
is
consideration
of
a
bill
sponsored
by
councilor,
Lindell
and
Lee,
or
Weber
and
counselor
Chavez.
It's
an
ordinance
amending
section
12-10-1.10
of
the
uniform
traffic
ordinance
governing
Mufflers
in
a
mission
control
devices
and
a
mending
schedule
a
of
the
uniform
traffic
ordinance
to
increase
penalties
for
Muffler
noise
violations.
B
And
so
this
is
the
appropriate
time
if
you
wanted
to
take
two
minutes
per
person
to
address
this
as
public
comment.
There's
no
action
tonight,
there's
simply
an
opportunity
to
weigh
in
on
this
proposed
measure.
C
Hi,
my
name
is
Neil
rosenshin
I
live
on
Park
Avenue
here
in
Santa
Fe
compared
to
the
rest
of
the
world.
We
are
living
in
paradise
and
I.
Acknowledge
that
and
I
also
acknowledge
that
a
lot
of
people
come
up
here
and
complain
and
I
feel
bad
about
having
this
negative
thing
to
deal
with.
The
noise
issue
is
out
of
hand,
and
it's
not
that
I
have
an
idea
on
how
to
solve
it.
I
actually
look
to
you
for
an
idea
on
how
to
solve
this.
It's
incredibly
stressful.
C
It
goes
on
24
hours
a
day
and
I
mean
look
at
me,
I'm
35
years
old,
and
look
what
it's
done
to
me.
C
So
I,
don't
really
know
what
to
say,
because
we've
run
through
this
I've
written
letters
and
gotten
wonderful
responses.
Actually,
we
had
breakfast
about
this
I,
don't
really
know
what
to
say,
I'm,
actually
looking
for
help
and
a
response,
and
actually
I
got
here
early,
because
I
thought
there'd
be
hundreds
of
people
lined
up
as
the
petition
has
over
700
signatures,
but
I
I
don't
know.
Somehow
here
we
are
so
I
had
two
minutes
and
I.
That's
all
I
have
to
say
I'm,
actually
looking
for
advice
and
a
solution.
B
Q
Hi,
my
name
is
Spitz
Sergeant
I
live
in
Casa
Alegre,
a
neighborhood,
I,
love
and
I.
Guess
tonight
is
mostly
about
people
under
40
and
over
104.
A
Q
Don't
fit
in
either
of
those
categories
before
I
say
something
about
the
noise
ordinance
I
want
to
give
a
plug
to
something
that
we
do
over
by
The
Roundhouse
on
Paseo,
which
is
the
Cars
and
Coffee
on
the
first
Saturday
morning
of
on
the
first
Saturday
of
every
month
at
nine
o'clock,
and
it's
pretty
awesome
and
I
think
what
you
will
see
if
you
come
is
there
are
a
lot
of
people
in
this
town
that
care
a
lot
about
cars,
and
probably
most
of
those
people
get
some
pleasure
out
of
putting
their
foot
on
the
accelerator
and
hearing
their
57
Chevy,
their
1923
Maxwell
ore.
Q
For
me,
it's
a
240Z
kind
of
Roar
down
the
street
right.
It's
a
really
nice
feeling,
but
just
to
follow
up
on
what
this
other
gentleman
said.
What's
going
on
right
now
really
started
with.
Q
Q
B
Q
And
being
really
outrageous,
I'm,
sorry
and
keeping
us
all
awake,
so
it's
really
time
for
the
city
leadership
to
make
a
statement
to
the
public.
Thank
you.
This
is
intolerable.
Thanks.
B
Thank
you,
sir.
Anyone
else
sorry
to
cut
you
off,
but
we
try
to
be
appropriate
with
the
two-minute
limit.
M
Hello
friends,
my
name
is
Cindy
Cornelson
and
I
run
smash
Bengals,
which
is
on
Montezuma
right
across
from
John
cocteau
I,
wanted
to
thank
councilor
Lindell
for
bringing
those
forward,
and
the
mayor
and
Miss
Chavez.
G
For
pushing
it,
we
have
a.
M
Group
of
it's
stop
aggressive
driving
in
Santa
Fe,
and
we've
got
a
petition
online
that
has
over
800
signatures
as
of
about
an
hour
ago
and
we're
all
concerned
about
this.
Noise
people
are
signing
because
they
have
PTSD.
People
are
signing
because
they
have
hearing
impairments
and
when
you
have
hearing
impairments,
percussive
noises
from
Mufflers
or
from
speakers
are
extra
damaging
and
when
you
have
PTSD
like
I,
do
and
I'm
wearing
a
couple
of
hats.
Tonight,
I'm
I'm
here
as
a
business
owner
I'm
here
as
a
member
of
sad.
M
Q
A
East
Palomino
Santa,
Fe,
New,
Mexico,
Mr,
Mayor
I
want
to
apologize
for
any
rudeness
in
the
paper
and
some
of
my
columns,
or
maybe
being
too
critical
of
the
counsel
in
you
and
that's
very
difficult
situation
to
deal
with,
but
my
hotel
little
hotel,
our
home
everybody
all.
You
know
this.
All
the
neighborhoods
are
being
impacted.
It
really
has
to
be
dealt
with.
It's
just
such
a
crisis.
In
my
opinion,
you
now
know
that
Longmont
is
using
noise
cameras.
That's
five
hours
from
here.
You
can.
A
Them
I
think
that
now
is
the
time
to
aggressively
put
back
the
speed
vehicles
that
are
unmanned,
that
can
give
tickets
and
the
same
thing
with
these
noise
cameras
they're,
not
racist,
they
don't
discern
discern
between
where
someone
grew
up
or
what
their
color
their
skin
is.
It's
very
Democratic,
and
it
is
a
good
way.
It
seems
to
control
this.
So
good
luck
and
we
appreciate
this
new
Focus.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
B
Q
Good
evening
my
name
is
Rick
Blythe
I'm
vice
president
and
general
manager
of
La,
Fonda
hotel
and
also
part
owner
of
the
Old
Santa
Fe,
and
at
the
corner
of
Galveston,
I'm,
very
fortunate
to
be
in
Santa
Fe
for
the
last
five
years
and
I
love
being
in
downtown
Santa.
Fe
99
of
the
time
that
other
one
percent,
or
even
more
in
some
nights,
is
when
I
get
a
call
from
a
guest
in
room
294
which
overlooked
San
Francisco
street.
One
of
our
nicest
Suites
has
a
balcony
and
a
fireplace.
Q
We
have
eight
rooms
right
along
San
Francisco
street,
and
we
have
to
move
them
out
of
those
rooms
because
they
can't
sleep.
It
primarily
happens
on
a
weekend
nights
primarily
in
the
summer
as
well,
and
as
that
you
almost
said
it's
gotten
worse
since
covet,
but
they
there
seems
to
be
a
little
Raceway
from
Old
Santa
Fe
Trail
to
Cathedral
right
on
San
Francisco
street
in
front
of
our
hotel,
and
it
is
incredibly
disturbing
to
our
tourists
and
the
guests
here
in
Santa
Fe.
Q
The
entrance
right
next
to
the
friend
pastry
I
was
out
there
greeting
I
guess
about
three
weeks
ago
and
a
car
went
racing
by
and
looked
at
me
and
said:
oh,
my
God
is
that
allowed
I
said
well
we're
trying
to
make
sure
it's
not
allowed,
because
if
it
really
really
interrupts
the
Serenity
and
the
peacefulness
and
what
Santa
Fe
is
all
about,
we
have
exactly
the
same
issue
at
Old,
Santa
Fe,
and
that
the
corner
of
Montezuma
and
calistao
Galis
Deo
is
a
racetrack.
They
come
around
that
corner.
Q
Our
cars
are
pulling
out
of
that
parking
lot.
We've
got
very
close
calls
on
that
corner
and
the
noise
continues.
Automated
there
are
police
on
the
Plaza,
I,
see
them
I
talk
to
him,
I!
Thank
them
for
being
there,
but
as
soon
as
you
get
past
that
stop
sign
on
Old
Santa,
Fe
Trail
and
they
take
off
towards
Cathedral,
the
police
can't
get
them
from
there.
The
police
are
on
the
Plaza,
so
whatever
you
can
do
to
help
us
with
this
situation
and
make
Santa
Fe
much
more
pleasurable
for
our
guests,
I
would
appreciate
it.
R
I
am
the
executive
director
of
Orinda
healing
International,
and
we
one
of
the
things
we
work
on
besides
Community
projects
and
sad
stop
aggressive
driving
is
definitely
one
of
them
is
I
am
also
a
counselor
and
I
speak
to
a
lot
of
people,
and
many
of
my
clients
lately
have
complained
of
sleep,
deprivation,
increased
anxiety
and
everything
else,
and
when
I
asked
them.
R
Okay,
so,
what's
going
on
what
has
made
this
worse
and
they
are
saying
well
as
soon
as
it
warmed
up,
we
can't
sleep,
we
opened
the
windows
and
it's
too
noisy,
and
this
is
around
town,
because
I
have
clients
from
all
over
Santa
Fe
and
therefore
I'm.
Just
saying
from
this
perspective,
that
of
a
you
know
a
psychologist
in
a
mental
health
practitioner.
This
is
a
very,
very
large
and
a
very,
very
disturbing
situations,
so
we
do
hope.
You
know.
We
really
do
hope
that
you
will
help
us
resolve
it.
Thank
you.
B
Okay,
thank
you
that
that
then
represents
public
comment
on
this
bill.
F
B
Thank
you.
Let
me
walk
through
the
process
tonight,
we'll
start,
if
there's
any
member
of
the
governing
body
who
wants
to
disclose
that
there
have
been
ex
parte
Communications
and
that
they
feel
they
need
to
recuse
themselves,
or
they
simply
want
to
acknowledge
those
contacts
that
will
take
place.
First,
then,
we'll
begin
with
a
staff
report
opening
statement
from
the
applicant
sworn
witness.
B
Testimony
public
comment
follows
that
questions
of
Staff
by
the
governing
body,
then
we'll
close,
the
public
hearing
and
they'll
be
a
motion
on
the
floor
discussion
and
then
a
vote
so
for
what
it's
worth.
If
anybody
wants
to
disclose
among
the
members
of
the
governing
body
and
the
ex
parte
Communications
yeah
counselor
Garcia,
you
have
the
floor.
Thank.
A
B
P
B
D
Thank
you,
mayor
I,
just
wanted
the
city
attorney's
office
to
address
the
nature
of
our
role
here,
as
I
always
do
at
the
beginning
of
beef.
K
Arabic
counselor
it
looks
like
Pat
is,
is
available.
J
J
Council
Romero
mayor
members
of
council:
this
is
a
quasi-judicial
proceeding,
as
is
the
next
case
the
next
Monday's
case
tonight
they
are
both
Quasar
judicial,
which
means
that,
instead
of
being
legislators
and
creating
policy,
you
are
acting
as
judges,
and
you
are
applying
the
facts
presented
to
you
in
this
case
to
the
laws
that
currently
exist.
B
G
G
The
picture
on
the
the
slide
here
is
the
illustration
of
the
product
type
that's
being
proposed
for
all
these
developments,
which
can
already
more
currently
be
found
in
Lost
Solaris.
Already.
The
request
for
kahaduro
is
a
two
general
plan:
amendments
to
change
the
General
plan,
categories
from
very
low
density,
residential
and
Community
commercials
to
medium
density,
residential
and
there's
a
resulting
request
as
well
or
two
of
one
is
to
rezone
from
residential
one
dwelling
unit
per
acre
to
residential
10
dwelling
units
per
acre
and
then
also
commercial
to
residential
tender.
G
Drawing
units
per
acre
you
can
see
with
reference
to
the
Future
land
use
map,
highlighted
in
sort
of
light,
green
and
not
an
isosceles
triangle,
is
the
site
which
is
located
on
both
sides
of
caja
Del
Oro,
Grant
Road
near
the
intersection
of
the
Veterans
Highway
and
South
Meadows
Road.
G
You
can
see
that
there's
a
Planned
commercial
node
on
the
on
the
site
or
on
the
site,
as
well
as
to
the
South,
and
you
know
the
general
plan
category
is
there
for
a
reason
in
that
there
is
a
need
for
Community
commercial
in
our
emerging
neighborhoods,
and
so
since
this
has
high
visibility.
It's
located
to
next
to
primary
roadways
and
transportation
corridors.
G
There's
also
residential
development,
multi-family
residential
as
well
as
there
are
some
institutional
uses
nearby
for
school
cool,
so
the
applicant
is
requesting
to
resume
to
10
dwelling
units
per
acre
are
10
and
the
reason
that
the
applicant
has
chosen
this
Zone
district
is
because
of
the
fact
that
in
the
art
and
Zone
District,
you
can
have
a
development
plan
LED
design.
So
the
design
is
such
that
setbacks
are
determined
by
the
development
plan
itself.
They're,
not
rigid
setbacks,
as
you
would
find
in
the
code
like
five
feet
on
the
side.
G
Property
line
20
feet
on
the
front
property
line,
and
why
would
the
applicant
want
to
do
this?
Well,
because
the
product
types
that
the
applicant
is
proposing
has
some
unique
characteristics
that
maybe
weren't
anticipated
in
our
zoning
code
when
it
was
authored
many
many
years
ago,
so
just
to
be
able
to
have
some
flexibility
in
allowing
for
Innovative
site
design
and
to
provide
for
well-designed
projects
as
well
as
additional
density
that
wasn't
avoided
there
previously
that
our
10
Zone
district
is
going
to
be
strongly
tied
to
a
development
plan.
G
Just
so
that
the
council
knows
at
the
Planning
Commission
hearing
a
development
plan
as
well
as
a
subdivision
plot
was
proposed.
The
Planning
Commission
conditionally
approved
both
of
those
on
the
condition
that
the
governing
body
finds
that
the
criteria
are
met
and
approve
the
general
plan
amendments
as
well
as
the
reason
so
with
reference
to
the
Planning
Commission
discussion
and
finding
here
on
the
illustration,
you'll
find
their
concept
plan
that
was
presented
and
you
can
see
that
they're
paired
homes
and
have
Community
minis
at
the
center.
G
The
the
nice
thing
about
this
design
is
that
the
home's
fronts
will
face
the
streets,
so
the
there
will
be
good
Frontage
on
Alameda
the
Alameda
Road
Frontage,
as
well
as
cajo
De,
Oro
Grant
Road.
The
discussion
of
the
hearing
included
that
discussion.
I
was
just
telling
you
about
in
terms
of
the
setbacks
and
the
heights
of
the
structures
in
residential
six
zoning
category,
which
is
the
less
dense
zoning
category,
the
maximum
height
is
14
feet.
G
Furthermore,
there's
discussion
about
parking
for
residents
and
guests
they're,
certainly
the
Alameda
frontage
road
is
not
friendly
to
to
parking
on
street
parking,
so
there
have
been
parking
areas
designated
within
the
plan
as
well
as
anakaha
De
Oro
road.
That
I
think
are
some
parking
opportunities,
but
once
again
that
is
a
major
Corridor,
and
so
that's
why
the
additional
parking
you
can
see
at
the
center
of
this
pipeline
has
has
been
provided.
G
The
Agua
Fria
traditional
Village
was
part
of
the
dialogue
and
review
and
provided
many
comments,
and
so
there
were
concerns
about
their
Parks
serving
this
population,
and
there
are
confirmation
of
regional
parks
in
the
area
that,
as
well
as
some
on-site
amenities
that
will
help
to
address
that
concern.
Also
they
have.
The
applicant
has
made
strong
connections
to
the
regional
bike,
trails
and
bike.
G
Lanes
will
be
provided
on
that
portion
of
Raja,
De
Oro
Grant
Road,
that
fronts
the
property
and
hopefully
will
provide
a
catalyst
to
additional
properties,
providing
those
bike
lanes
and,
just
as
a
note,
the
traditional
Village
Agua
Fria
Village
density
is
higher
than
what
is
being
proposed
here.
So
that
was
one
of
the
talking
points
at
the
Planning
Commission
hearing.
G
So
the
decision
of
the
Planning
Commission
was
to
recommend
to
the
governing
body
the
general
plan
amendments
for
our
for
the
two
different
categories
to
residential
10..
They
recommended
the
governing
body
approved
that
as
well
as
the
rezoning
to
r10,
and
that
concludes
my
presentation
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
Thank.
B
You
we'll
get
we'll
get
to
the
question
part
a
little
bit
later.
Thank
you.
Let's
hear
now
from
the
applicant
owner
or
representative,
with
an
opening
statement,
sworn
witness
testimony
of
up
to
15
minutes.
If
you
can
foreign.
Q
F
Perfect,
if
you
can
State
your
full
name
in
your
address,
you
don't
have
to
State
the
number
anymore.
You
can
just
state.
F
F
A
Q
So,
to
give
you
an
idea
how
this
sits
relative
to
the
surrounding
vicinity,
that
on
the
west
side
is
599
and
the
front
automated
Frontage
Road
to
the
South
is
property.
That's
owned
by
the
owner
of
this
particular
property
here
and
then
to
the
to
the
east
is
principally
a
property.
That's
either
owned
by
the
Catholic
Church,
which
is
a
cemetery
or
it's
the
county
itself,
with
the
County
Fire
Station,
the
health
clinic,
the
community.
L
Q
So
this
there's
various
lot
light
adjustments
that
are
going
to
have
to
occur,
and
this
is
what
describes
what
those
lot
line
adjustments
are.
This
property
was
assembled
by
the
current
owner,
and
so
there
will
be
various
lot
lines
that
are
kind
of
like
lightly
noted
here
on
the
plan
which
will
be
removed,
but
this
action.
Q
The
consolidation
plan,
is
something
that's
handled
administratively,
but
it
did
what
I
wanted
to
point
out
that
Carlos
Garcia,
the
owner
has
spent
a
great
deal
of
time
assembling
these
various
ownerships,
and
there
are
several
of
them.
I
took
a
lot
of
patience
and
effort
on
his
part
to
do
that.
Q
I
think
one
of
one
of
the
issues-
and
this
relates
to
some
degree
oops
I
shouldn't
touch
anything-
is
that
there
aren't
on
South,
Meadows
Road,
there's
equivalent
of
you
know
either
you
know
around
500
apartment
units
they're,
either
under
construction
completed
or
will
be
under
construction
in
the
future.
Q
So,
to
reiterate:
what
what's
your
action
tonight
is
the
general
plan
Amendment,
which
the
kind
of
the
Planning
Commission
has
recommended
unanimously
in
favor
of
the
rezoning
action
from
a
C2
to
r10
and
from
R1
to
r10,
which
is
the
Planning
Commission
that
is
recommended
in
favor
of
the
and
it
just
so
you
understand
is
that
the
Planning
Commission
did
act
on
the
preliminary
plant
and
the
preliminary
development
plan
in
terms
of
the
details
of
that
plan,
and
one
thing
that
kind
of
maybe
Jump
Ahead
a
little
to
BSD
less
Solaris
unit,
3,
that
an
issue
came
up
on
unit
three,
that
they
did
not
recommend
in
favor
of
the
action
that
we
had
requested
and
it
was
on
the
basis
of
quality
of
life.
B
Q
So
once
again,
the
this
is
the
requested
zoning
R1
to
r10
and
C2
to
r10
on
both
sides
of
cattle,
Oro
Road.
Q
And
just
to
give
you
an
idea
of
a
comparison,
what
you
know,
how
does
C2
compare
to
r10?
First
of
all,
in
terms
of
the
uses,
it's.
Q
And
right
now
it
seems
that
a
lot
of
C2
is
actually
going
to
Apartments
and
there
are
10
of
single
family
multi-family
attached
and
detached
residential
density.
It
can
vary
between
20
to
28
du
per
acre,
which
would
allow
on
this
property
320
units,
and
that
would
be
at
the
low
range
20
units
per
acre.
This
particular
one
we're
proposing
actually
on
the
plan
itself
on
the
development
plan.
We're
proposing
80
units
like
coverage
is
60
for
C2
40
in
this
particular
case.
Since
no
lot
is
less
than
four
thousand
square
feet.
Q
Maximum
height
C2
is
45
feet.
Maximum
height
for
r10
is
24
feet.
The
traffic
generation
for
320
units
amp
is
90
96
compared
to
the
80.
Us
is
45
PM.
Q
Or
C2
for
the
320
units
and
PM
for
the
80
ounce
is
45..
Open
space
is
250
square
feet
on
the
ground
floor
only
and
then
for
the
80
residential
units.
It
would
be
having
to
meet
the
neighborhood
park
requirement.
Q
So
this
is
the
development
plan
that
was
submitted
to
the
Planning
Commission,
and
just
it
give
you
the
the
I,
you
know
the
scope
of
it
is.
There
are
two
different
areas
that
are
major
open
space.
One
is
a
ponding
area
which
will
include
benches
and
then
to
the
South
is
a
children's
playground
and
then
various
open
space
areas
are
scattered
through
throughout
the
project
as
well.
Q
We'll
talk
a
little
more
about
what
what
the
colored
lines
represent.
One
and
another
slide
here.
Q
One
of
one
of
the
issues
that
came
up
I,
don't
know
how
to
differentiate
between
the
two
projects.
At
this
point
came
up
with
the
meeting.
Was
they
didn't
like
how
the
pedestrian
access
took
place
both
from
the
street
to
the
house
and
from
the
dwelling
unit
to
the
various.
A
Q
And
trails
that
are
within
the
project
itself
and
then
side
yard
became
an
issue
which
we
discovered
and
we
had
previously
proposed
five,
a
five
foot
side
yard
setback
which
is
allowed
by
it
by
the
r10
zoning.
The
Planning
Commission
felt
that
was
insufficient.
Q
They
didn't
they
didn't
like.
They
thought
we
really
needed
greater
distance
and
then
a
greater
spacing
between
the
actual
20
years
themselves.
So
we
increased
the
side
yard
to
10
feet
on
either
side.
Q
So
now
the
separation
between
the
dwelling
units
is
20
feet
instead
of
10
feet
and
the
other
thing
it
allowed
us
to
do
in
the
top
here
on
the
side
that
has
the
cross
section
of
the
walkway
that
allowed
us
to
do,
and
we
had
given
the
given
the
Planning
Commission
two
options:
one
it
was
a
a
wall
in
the
middle
and
then
two
walls
where
they
had
a
shared
walkway
between
the
two
two
units
and
they
preferred
to
share
the
two
walls
with
a
shared
walkway.
Q
I
think
the
their
desire
is
that
they
they
like
the
ability
to
have
more
of
immediate
access
to
to
the
trail
system
and
this
they
felt
accomplished
that
in
in
the
best
manner,
there
is
one
of
one
other
thing:
the
on
Alameda.
The
mpo
in
this
process
had
requested
that
we
work
with
them
on
getting
a
city
Trail
along
Alameda
and
their
Trail
needs
to
be
eight
feet.
Eight
feet
wide
and
we're
certainly
willing
to
do
that.
Q
Q
So
this
is,
this
is
the
overall
trail
system.
The
the
line
in
blue
is
what
the
mpo
is
requesting
for
a
city
trail
system,
the
yellow,
solid
lines
are
actually
public
walkways
that
will
be
constructed.
The
roads
are
all
the
road
interior
roads
are
going
to
be
public
roadways
and.
Q
Have
sidewalks
now
that
that
roadway
through
this
section
will
be
rebuilt
with
public
public
sideways
as
well,
and
then
the
yellow
lines
are
the
ones
I
was
discussing.
That
shows
how
that
pedestrian
access
works,
that
it
it's
meant
to
increase
the
ability
to
go
directly
onto
the
trail
and
allow
for
a
better
pedestrian
access
for
guests.
Coming
coming
to
the
coming
to
the
dwellings.
Q
This
is
the
landscape
plan
and
I
was
talking
about.
You
know
having
trying
to
maintain
that
five
foot
buffer
and
the
advantage
of
having
that
five
foot
buffer
is
that
we
can
plant
trees.
If
you
go
down
to
a
two
foot
buffer,
then
we're
looking
at
scrubs
and
the
idea
is
that
two
things
we
like
to
kind
of
soften
the
look
of
the
project
from
the
exterior
of
the
project
itself
and
then
along
a
lot
of
the
trails
and
and
walkways
and
City
City
walkways.
B
B
Okay,
in
that
case,
I
will
open
it
up
to
the
governing
body
to
ask
questions
or
dig
into
any
of
the
presentation,
maybe
either
by
staff
or
by
the
applicant
or
the
applicants.
Representative
answer
cast
that
you
have
before
thank.
M
Q
That
is
correct.
It's
approximately
20
20
and
a
half
acres
that
remains
Zone
C2
for
the
intent
of
the
developer.
Resigners,
then,
is
to
provide
neighborhood
shopping
facilities.
Okay,.
M
Q
M
I
I
do
appreciate
hearing
that
I
know
it
is
not
the
property
that
we
are
currently
looking
at,
but
one
of
my
concerns
was
the
loss
of
commercial
property
in
this
area,
given
that
the
general
part
of
town
is
really
being
developed
quite
quickly
with
a
lot
of
apartment,
complex
is
a
lot
of
residential
and
how
we
are
making
sure
that
we
are
looking
at
the
entire
neighborhood,
as
opposed
to
just
dwelling
units
is
really
important
to
me.
So
thank
you
for
that
clarification
and.
M
Okay,
thank
you
also.
If
we
can
go
back
to
to
the
detailing
the
parking
I
was
hoping
to
get
just
a
bit
more
of
that
understanding,
as
I
know
that
that
was
a
concern.
M
Q
So
the
one
of
the
other
issues
that
staff
was
that
the
Planning
Commission
was
concerned
about
was
Purdy,
perky
and
actually
at
this
kind
of
density.
There
is
a
requirement
that,
whether
it's
not
a
requirement-
that's
it's
not
mandatory!
It's
up
to
the
Planning
Commission
that
there's
one
half
parking
space
per
unit
for
pretty
parking
and
what
we've
done
done
between
the
Perkins
bases,
they're
going
to
be
on
the
street
or
the
parking
spaces
that
are
provided
around
the
two
two
areas.
Q
A
M
Okay,
thank
you
that
zoom
in
really
helps
I
can
actually
see
the
little.
No,
no
that's
that's
perfect.
So
I
know
there
has
been
some
concern
in
some
other
developments
about
families
with
four
cars.
So
two
adults,
two
teenage
kids,
you
you
get
a
lot
of
cars
and
so
how
many
parking
units
per
per
dwelling
unit
I'm
sorry
for
using
there
are.
Q
Well
in
the
garage
and
and
the
covenants
recorded,
the
garage
be
maintained
as
a
garage
there's
two
there's,
always
it's
a
two-car
garage
and
then
in
front
of
the
garage
there's
parking
for
two
more
Automobiles
and
then
on
the
the
on
street
parking
and
the
parking
you
see
here
on
the
plan.
There
would
be
another
parking
space
per
unit.
Okay,
great!
So
that's
five
perfect!
Thank.
M
One
of
the
things
that
that
when
I
was
looking
at
the
original
zoning
of
C2
I,
imagine
that
having
commercial
as
opposed
to
residential
again,
some
of
these
higher
use
faster,
you
know,
599,
is
essentially
a
freeway
and
the
concern
we
know.
We
just
had
this
conversation
about
noise
concerns
from
Cars,
even
just
just
driving
I
know
in
larger
cities.
M
There
is
discussion
around
how
Housing
close
to
freeways
can
have
negative
impacts
on
health,
and
that
is
something
that,
when
I'm
looking
at
the
map
here,
that
does
concern
me
I,
think
you
know
making
sure
that
five
foot
buffer
for
for
trees
is
important,
but
I
would
be
curious
if
that
was
considered
at
all
if
you've
been
looking
into
it
at
all,
especially
knowing
how
much
other
development
is
happening
in
this
area
and
I
know
there
was
a
traffic
impact
assessment
for
this
specific
project.
M
I,
don't
know
if
that
took
into
consideration
the
additive
effect
of
all.
The
different
projects
that
are
coming
in
was
that
when
they
looked
at
that,
were
they
already
looking
at
what
else
is
in
the
pipeline
and
what
this
would
be
adding
to
it
or
not,
so
anything
that
you
could
provide
with
more
information
regarding
those
two
items
of
health
of
being
so
close
to
such
a
major
road
as
well
as
looking
at
the
additive
effect
additive
impact
for
for
traffic.
Given
how
much
development's
happening
in
this
area.
Q
So
mayor
councilor
cassette,
if
you
take
a
look
at
this,
the
it's
up,
the
property
boundaries
is
against
Alameda.
The
traffic
on
all
may
obviously
is
not
the
same
volume
of
traffic
on
599.
Q
and
what
you
have
is
from
the
travel
Lane
of
5.99.
You
have
a
considerable
distance
to
the
actual
dwelling
unit
and
the
greater
the
distance,
the
more
diminution
and
noise
that
you
have.
There's
two
things
happening.
There
will
be
a
five
foot
wall
along
Alameda
and
then
the
trees
that
I
spoke
of
assuming
we
can
maintain
that
five
foot
landscape
buffer
the
trees
will
help
absorb
some
of
that
that
noise
as
well,
but
it
it
you
know.
Q
M
Well,
I'm,
more
just
looking
at
General
traffic
noise.
You
know
a
lot
of
cities
when
they're
looking
at
that
they're
looking
not
specifically
at
abnormal
traffic
noise,
but
just
kind
of
the
general
impact
of
living
close
to
high
traffic
areas.
Q
The
answer
is
councilor
cassette.
We
did
not
take
noise
readings
there
and
they're,
not
they're
not
required,
but
it
is.
It
is
a
prime
location
in
terms
of
residential
development.
It
has
utilities
and
it
is
the
unique
kind
of
a
unique
parcel
of
land
for
that
particular
area
that
the
city
actually
city
annexed
several
years
ago.
M
Thank
you
and
then
on
the
clarification
on
the
traffic
impact
assessment
and
at
what
point
in
time
it
was
done
and
what
was
it
taking
into
consideration
the
other
projects
that
had
been
approved
in
the
area
and
how
those
how
the
volumes
of
this
project
would
add
to
the
expected
volumes
of
what
was
also
already
in
the
pipeline.
Q
Councilor
cassid
I
have
Sheldon
Greer
is
here.
Who
is
the
civil
engineer
on
the
project
and
I'm
going
to?
If
you
don't
mind,
I
will
have
him
step
in
and
talk
about
the
traffic
studies
that
were
done.
He
did
not
personally
do
them,
but
he
is
probably
best
skilled
to
talk
about
studies.
K
F
Just
reworked
the
slide
now
that
you
don't
do
the
address
so
I
apologize.
Can
you
say
I
and
state
your
full
name,
sure.
F
E
You
good
evening,
mayor
and
Council:
please
appear
that
I
have
yet
to
present
in
front
of
this
board
presented
in
front
of
many
groups,
but
not
this
one
I.
As
mentioned
I'm,
not
the
traffic
engineer.
We
do
have
a
another
traffic
specialist
who
was
not
able
to
be
here
tonight.
He
may
be
online
if
I
need
bailing
out
the
the
general
answer
to
your
question
is
that
you
know
the
requirements.
E
M
B
Thank
you,
counselor
councilman
battery
out,
thank.
I
You
Mr
Mayor
and
thank
you
team,
for
your
presentation
and
for
staff
for
working
on
this.
It
seems
like
it
was
a
long
time
working
on
this
I
think
the
only
questions
are
just
clarification
on
some
of
the
things
that
were
said
in
the
packet
material.
I
Let's
see,
there's
so
many
attachments,
but
page
16
and
one
of
our
exhibit
I
think
it's
in
exhibit
three
and
maybe
it
talks
about.
It
is
indeterminate
if
Oro
Grant
Road
is
owned
and
maintained
by
the
city
or
county,
so
I
think
that's
kind
of
a
big
deal,
especially
as
it
moves
forward.
How
that
will
get
resolved
so
has
any
other
information
been
presented
since
the
last
time
this
was
heard,
and
what
does
that
mean
for
that
road
and
how
we're
going
to
be
figuring
out
the
jurisdiction
of
that.
Q
I
Q
Tell
you
that
the
current
status
of
it
that
the
county
agrees
that
it
is
a
city
roadway.
Q
The
problem
being
that
there
was
supposed
to
be
a
Tran,
actually
transfer
title
of
some
kind
of
transfer
of
ownership,
which
in
fact
never
took
place
and
my
understanding
I
think
councilmanuel
is
working
on
a
committee.
That's
dealing
with
something
not
just
that,
because
other
issues
that
weren't
resolved
as
a
result
of
the
city
initiated
annexation.
I
I'm
curious,
if
staff
has
an
opinion
about
that,
because
I
think
it
actually
matters,
especially
because
this
road
split
the
development
and
it
will
be
the
main
access
point
for
the
both
sides
and
so
I'm
just
curious.
Why
that
hasn't
been
determined
and
and
what
does
that
do
for
the
development
approval.
K
J
J
The
rules
for
roads
is
that,
if,
if
one
side
of
the
road
is
annexed,
the
entire
road
goes
with
it
into
the
city,
so
I,
don't
I,
don't
believe,
there's
any
way
that
this
would
still
be
County
Road.
So
my
rubber.
K
Some
of
the
maps
were
not
clear
on
that
point
when
the
original
annexation
took
place,
but
there
is
a
state
statute
that
requires
that
the
annexing
party,
the
city,
assumes
ownerships
of
the
roads
that
are
within
the
annexation
that
are
budding
the
annexation.
So
if
this
falls
into
one
of
those
categories,
then
it
should
be
City
jurisdiction.
I
B
I
Our
exhibit
three,
the
governing
body,
exhibit
three
there's
so
many
pages
of
that.
J
Yeah,
that
was
not
that,
doesn't
anything
I
noticed
in
there.
It's
it's
page.
J
I
Page
15
of
22
of
the
case,
but
in
our
packet
material,
it's
page
16.
at
the
bottom,
under
access
and
traffic.
I
J
I,
don't
yeah,
I
I
have
no
reason
to
believe
it's,
not
city
property,
and
it
should
have
been
annexed
along
with
everything
else.
They
might
just
not
have
done
updated.
The
maps,
as
the
City
attorney
said,.
J
There
would
be
a
city,
City
issue.
C
E
J
I
Q
K
A
Me
all
right,
thank
you,
mayor,
thank
you
government
body.
So
the
short
answer
is
we're
going
to
build
the
portion
of
caja
Del
Oro,
that's
within
our
development
to
City
standards,
and
then
at
that
point
it
can
easily
be
taken
over
and
maintained
by
the
city-
that's
usually
par,
of
course,
with
new
developments,
and
we
would
follow
that
so.
I
Okay,
well
that
helps,
and
then
it
doesn't
help
the
rest
of
the
road
but
yeah
I
think
that
we've
seen
that
happen
where
parts
of
the
development
improve
roads
and
then
the
rest
of
it
doesn't
get
fixed
so
but
I
just
so
you're
just
talking
about
where
the
development
is
located.
That
section
that's.
I
All
right
well,
the
next
question
I
have
had
to
do
with,
since
there
was
you
provided
the
Covenants,
and
so
there
are
affordable
homes
in
this
development,
and
so
my
question
is-
and
this
has
been
a
problem
in
the
past
and
I'm
curious.
If
you
have
have
a
red
or
have
a
solution
for
this,
but
essentially
HOA
fees,
they
apply
to
everybody
that
lives
there,
but
affordable
housing
residents
have
a
different
structure
and
I
didn't
see
that
in
any
of
the
covenants.
I
So
I
was
curious
if
I
actually
thought
this
would
be
for
a
city,
because
I
think
City
staff
reviews
this
as
well.
If
there's
anything
in
the
Covenant
that
clarifies
that
homeowners
that
are
in
the
affordable
units
that
they
they're
supposed
to
I,
don't
know
the
right
word,
for
it
there's
a
different
calculation
for
them
as
to
what
they're
required
to
either
pay
for
whether
it's
through
mate.
You
know
the
maintenance
costs,
so
I,
don't
know
if
either
staff
or
the
client
can
clarify
this.
For
me,.
A
G
I
B
M
Yes,
I
did
get
the
question.
Typically,
what
our
ordinance
requires
is
that
if
the
HOA
fees
are
in
excess
of
75
dollars
a
month,
then
the
home
sales
price
has
to
be
adjusted
accordingly,
so
that
the
affordable
payment
for
the
for
the
month,
so
that
the
mortgage
payment
plus
the
HOA,
are
still
considered
affordable
for
the
home
buyer.
We've
had
a
couple
of
projects
where
the
fees
have
covered
costs
that
would
normally
be
covered
by
the
by
a
homeowner,
and
so
we've
made
adjustments
that
way.
M
I
Thank
you,
Miss
Lead
and
I'm
just
curious,
if
you
all
have
some
Provisions
in
the
Covenant
that
clarify
that,
because
it
does
it's
something
that
has
come
up
for
us
and
I
think
it
would
be
helpful
if
it's
clarified
in
your
Covenant,
so
that
you
don't
come
up
to
with
this
issue.
That
happened
from
time
to
time.
Q
Or
maybe
Alexander
Ladd
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
actually
it's
not
in
the
covenants
that
the
issue
is
that
there
has
to
be
a
sign
of
affordable
housing
agreement
and,
as
this
lab
stated,
the
that's
taken
care
of
actually
taken
care
of
in
the
agreement.
That's
an
agreement
between
the
developer
and
and
the
city.
So
it's
enforceable
by
the
city.
Covenants
are
private.
I
M
M
I
Had
another
I,
don't
know,
I
think
it's
just
confusing,
and
maybe
we
can
try
to
figure
that
out,
because
I
but
I
want
this
to
happen
again
and
I,
don't
know
where
it
actually
needs
to
be
explicitly
stated.
So
people
understand
what
their
requirements
are
as
homeowners
in
an
HOA
that
are
in
the
portable
units.
I
M
Mr
mayor
council
Villarreal,
we
certainly
have
discussed
this
in
the
past
and
looked
at
different
ways.
We
could
address
it
in
the
ordinance
which
would
then
make
us
able
to
address
it
in
the
agreement.
M
We've
had
HOAs
who
have
not
charged
the
affordable
home
buyers.
Anything,
but
that's
actually
I
think
a
little
counterproductive
because
then
the
homeowners
feel
like
they
don't
have
any
rights
to
participate
in
the
Democratic
process
of
the
HOA.
M
M
We've
seen
this
problem
in
the
more
densely
packed
condo
projects
that
have
a
lot
of
amenities
so
to
have
fitness,
centers
and
Community
rooms
and
and
swimming
pools
and
shared
trails,
and
a
lot
of
things
like
that.
So
so
and
I
don't
know
I.
It
doesn't
appear
that
this
is
that
kind
of
project
which
isn't
to
say
we
shouldn't
try
to
address
it.
It's
much
more
complicated
than
it
seems
to
face
value.
But
it's
certainly
on
the
list
of
things
to
look
at
the
next
time
we
amend
the
code
great.
I
Thank
you
for
that
that
distinction,
I,
think
that
was
helpful
and
then
I
also
always
wonder.
Why
are
we
even
looking
and
improving
the
covenants
when
we
don't
have
control
over
them?
That's
the
other
kind
of
weird
thing
that
that's.
Why
I'm
asking
these
questions,
because
we
see
the
covenants
and
I'm
like
well,
it's
not
like.
We
can
change
them,
I'm
assuming,
but
there
there
was
another
piece
of
the
covenants
that
I'm
interested
in
and
I.
I
Don't
know
if
staff
can
clarify
this
if
there
was
restrictions
in
the
covenants,
the
place
that
prevent
homes
from
becoming
short-term
rentals.
G
Several
councilmember,
with
reference
to
short-term
rentals,
we
have
code
criteria
the
covenants
themselves.
What,
as
you
recently
said
that
they're
not
enforceable
by
the
city,
so
what
we
do
rely
on
are
those
standards
laid
out
in
chapter
14.
I
Q
Neither
of
us
have
perfect
memory
on
the
covenants,
but
the
it
is
typical
that
you
can't
the
same
as
the
city
requirement.
You
can't
lease
a
rent
for
anything
less
than
30
days.
I
mean
it's
pretty
typical
on
all
covenants
that
we
we
work
on.
A
I
E
Paid
excuse
me
62,
there's
an
email
about
the
traffic
impact
analysis
and
it
refers
to
different
other
areas.
In
one
section
that
says,
figure
three
talks
about
appendix
B,
appendix
D
data
in
Table
Six.
That
needs
to
match
data
in
the
appendix,
or
is
all
this
additional
information.
Q
Well,
that
was
actually
provide
to
to
the
city.
There
is
actually
two
rounds
on
the
traffic
study.
We
did
the
one
that
was
submittedly
and
that
additional
questions
came
up
and
actually
at
the
first
meeting
in
the
Planning
Commission,
and
there
was
the
supplement
to
the
traffic
study
and
I.
Think
in
in
your
package
somewhere
you'll
find
that
Mr
Pacheco
is
kind
of
the
you
know,
handling
traffic
issues.
The
engineer,
handling
traffic
issues
for
the
city
agrees
that
the
traffic
study
is
amended
was
acceptable.
E
Q
Repeat
that,
because
they
were
very
specific
about
it,
that
kind
of
information,
typically,
if
not
submitted,
was
a
general
planum
and
rezoning.
E
N
E
Heard
the
gentleman
say
that
the
the
traffic
that
there
wouldn't
be
any
impact,
but
when
John
Romero
is
here,
he
determined
that
South,
Meadows
and
agua
Korea
was
a
failing
intersection
and
that's
going
to
be
addressed.
However,
it
concerns
me
that
currently
there
was
no
traffic
issues
that
were
noted.
Q
Q
Fact
the
there
was
an
impact
at
the
assisting
cutting
internet
on
me,
or
no
is
that:
okay,
the
a
traffic
impact
at
Alameda
and
cattle
De,
Oro
Road
and,
in
fact,
in
order
to
address
the
lower
level
of
service,
the
engineer
recommended
adding
a
right
turn
lane,
and
so
we've
been
we've
set
aside
additional
right-of-way,
which
allows
for
both
a
left
because
it's
a
T
intersection,
both
a
left
turn
and
a
right
turn
and
what
it
did
is
because
you
added
a
right
turn.
Q
Q
Does
they
have
to
take
accounts,
am
pekum
and-
and
you
know,
12
12
a.m
counts
as
well,
and
then
to
that
they
have
to
add
traffic,
they
have
to
add
a
a
percentage
for
an
increase
in
traffic
generation
for
over
a
10-year
period,
and
so
you
have
What's
called
the
background
traffic,
and
then
you
have
the
adjusted
traffic
for
future
future
traffic.
That's
going
to
occur
in
it
over
it.
At
the
end
of
the
10-year
period,.
Q
To
the
degree
it
did
then
I'm
not
sure
we
don't,
unfortunately,
don't
have
the
traffic
engineer
here,
but
the
what
would
happen
the
apartment
projects
could
go
back
there
real
photo,
but
I'll
just
give
you
a
an
overview.
Q
South
Meadows
those
Department
projects
are
on
South
Meadows,
so
the
most
likely
path
would
be
to
the
north,
and
that
goes
directly
into
the
roundabout
to
connection
to
599.
It's
probably
going
to
be
very
little
traffic
that
goes
in
on
Alameda.
E
Q
My
knowledge
they
selling
correctly,
they
did
not
take
traffic
counts
at
all.
Our
Priya
and
kahula
oral.
Q
They
did
project
traffic
going
towards
our
Fria,
and
that
was
for
the
increase
in
traffic
on
that
side
was
fairly
minimal.
D
L
E
Q
There
will
be
there's,
there's
trails
that
have
to
be
maintained
by
the
HOA
and
then
there's
various
open
space
areas
and
then
the
two
parts
that
I
reference,
all
those
are
under
the
ownership
of
the
HOA.
Q
Will
be
improved
the
county
standards
with
the
additional
Lane
that
I
mentioned
at
Alameda,
but
once
it's
constructed
it
will
have
to
be
approved
and
accepted
by
the
city
of
Santa
Fe.
Q
E
E
All
right
and
a
part
of
this
community,
since
it's
going
to
be
an
HOA
in
private
and
you're,
not
planning
any
Gates
or
fences
to
keep
non-residents
out.
No
and
I,
don't
know
if
you
know
this
or
not,
but
in
the
HOA
documents
does
it
say
that
the
city
is
not
responsible
for
maintaining
the
parks
or
those
areas
that
the
HOA
is
responsible
for
actually.
Q
What
happens
is
every
one
of
those
Parcels
that
are
maintained
by
the
HOA
on
the
plat
are
identified,
and
then
that
identification
actually
is
carried
over
it
into
the
covenants
and
the
HOA
documents
that
those
Parcels
are
identified
on
Subdivision
map
a
or
whatever
it
is?
They
are
maintained
by
the
a2i.
Okay.
D
You
mayor
on
page
it's
our
18
of
285.
It's
your
page
17
of
22
talks
about
water
and
I'm,
just
curious.
You
talked
about
trees
when
the
city
does
their
water
budget.
Is
that
just
for
inside
or
do
they
look
at
your
outside
Landscaping,
since
you
have
quite
a
few
trees
in
this
development?
Actually.
Q
Water
budgets
consist:
they
have
to
include
the
Landscaping
okay
and
it's
over
a
three-year
period.
The
first
year
is
higher
than
the
second
year
second
third
year
and
all
that's
prepared
by
the
landscape,
architect
and
as
included
in
in
the
water
budget,
and
then
on
top
of
that
they
have
a
0.98
percent
nine
point:
yeah
0.98
Factor,
that's
for
line
loss
and
the
landscape
that
goes
on
top
of
the
landscape,
as
well
as
the
domestic.
D
Okay,
so
that's
included
and
then
underwater.
It
says
the
last
sentence.
The
12
inch
line
will
be
available
to
serve
the
County
Properties
along
kahal
De
Oro
Grant
Road,
mentioned
in
the
report
that
are
currently
served
by
on-site
Wells,
so
I'm
a
little
confused,
County
properties
that
are
in
the
city
or
county
properties
that
are
outside
the
city
limits
being
served
by
this
new
12-inch
City
water
line.
Q
Council
Romero
worth
when
the
city
annexed
this
land,
they
also
annexed
all
the
county
land.
So
it's
oh,
the
lands
owned
by
the
county
that
is
now
within
the
city
limits.
D
B
I
Q
Had
raised
that
issue-
and
you
know
why
didn't
you
include
a
roundabout?
Well,
the
traffic
engineer
felt
that
the
proximity
of
that
roundabout,
which
is
in
the
middle
of
this
front,
pause.
I
I
Q
M
Gaping
I
know
that
when
you're
looking
at
the
DRT
notes,
it
talks
about
replacing
the
shade
Master,
Honey,
Locust,
trees
and
and
I'm.
This
might
be
a
question
for
staff
I'm,
not
sure,
but
you
know
we
do
have
the
tree.
Smart,
Santa,
Fe
program
and
I
know
that
this
whole
area
is
really
an
opportunity,
for
you
know,
as
we
say,
planting
the
right
tree
in
the
right
place
and
I'm
curious
how
these
two
projects
or
the
tree.
Smart
Santa
Fe
interacts
with
approval
of
development
in
land
use
I
it
doesn't.
G
Mayor
councilmember
cassid,
if
at
this
point
I'm
not
certain
that
it
does,
we
do
have
water-wise
Landscaping
standards
in
the
code
and
I'm
sure
we'll
be
improving
that,
with
the
update
of
the
code,
so
it'll
be
nice
to
get
that
policy.
Direction.
Okay,.
M
I
guess
this
is
just
then,
maybe
a
suggestion
is
it
can
can
I
suggest
to
the
applicants
that
you
know
as
we're
really
looking
at
what
trees
are
doing
well
in
different
parts
of
the
city
and
and
we're
looking
at
the
balance
of
trees
within
our
community,
and
so
knowing
that
you
have
these
developments
going
where
there's
this
blank
slate
and
this
ability
to
really
think
about
what
trees
are
there
is
this
resource
of
the
city
and
I
would
really
encourage
you
to
interact
with
it
for
the
moment
before
we
make
it
a
necessity
that
developers
interact
with
it
so
and
then
my
other
question
is
the
the
pictures
that
we've
that
were
shown
is
that
a
prototype
of
the
architectural
design
of
what
is
being
proposed
here.
Q
Councilor
cassette,
yet,
yes,
it
is
the,
but
that's
just
one
model.
There
are
a
whole
series
of
models
and
what
they
try
to
do
is
they
were
monotony
standard
I
guess
it's
called
so
that
they
break
up
the
facade
of
the
dwelling
over
a
certain
number
of
dwellings.
So
that's
just
one
model
is
to
the
side.
Yeah.
M
Okay,
that's
all
my
concerns
that
I've
been
having
with
some
of
the
developments
that
have
been
occurring,
especially
over
on
the
South
Side
District.
Three
and
four
are
architectural
designs
that
don't
really
give
us
the
sense
of
place
of
being
in
Santa
Fe,
and
so
these
I,
actually,
you
know,
felt
that
there
was
more
continuity
with
what
Santa,
Fe
style
is
and
I'm,
not
necessarily
saying
you
know.
Sometimes
you
say
that
and
people
think
oh,
we
just
have
to
do
public
Revival.
No,
please
don't!
M
Please
don't
do
that
everywhere,
but
I,
I
and
Heather.
This
might
be
a
question
for
you
again
about
where
our
Leverage
is.
As
a
governing
body
I
know,
there's
been
some
discussion.
I've
had
some
discussions
with
you
about
this,
of
of
really
thinking
how
we
as
we're
proving
some
of
these
developments,
where
the
governing
body's
ability
is
to
say
we
want
to
create
a
sense
of
place
on
the
South
Side.
That's
a
lot
of
the
concerns
I
hear
from
and
that
I
have
regarding
our
ability
to
to
mold
our
city.
M
G
This
sense
mayor
council,
member
cassett,
with
reference
to
the
architectural
standards,
those
are
typically
applied,
either
at
the
staff
level
for
individual
buildings
or
at
the
Planning
Commission
level,
when
there's
a
review
of
a
Land,
Development
or
a
development
plan,
and
so
unfortunately,
the
governing
body
doesn't
see
those
too
often,
except
except
in
the
case
of
a
an
appeal
potentially
of
a
development
plan.
G
So
the
the
tools
that
the
governing
body
might
use
is
potentially
looking
at
this
any
code
update
and
seeing
how
we
can
be
approving
those
improving
those
architectural
points
and
maybe
solidifying
things
a
little
more
to
identify.
What
recent
Santa
Fe
style
is
what
sort
of
modern
Santa
Fe.
So
how
that
plays
out-
and
you
know
what
things
should
be
prohibited
and
expressed
prohibited
for
code
that
aren't
consistent
with
Santa
Fe
style
right.
M
G
M
Prohibited
or
we
increase
points,
okay,
thank
you
so
much,
that's
again,
so
excited
about
all
of
the
zoning
code
and
general
plan
updates
that
are
coming
our
way,
I
will
use
the
floor.
Thank
you
so
much
thank.
I
You
mayor
on
that
point,
can
I
ask
about
I.
Guess
I
just
want
to
be
clear:
we're
voting
on
the
general
plan
Amendment
and
the
rezoning
and
then
are
we
going
to
be?
Will
it
come
back
when
the
Planning
Commission
I
think
they're
going
to
hear
the
preliminary
development
plan
in
the
subdivision
plot
peace
later?
Can
you
tell
us
more
about
that
I
thought
that
was
coming.
I
G
I
Right
but
I
think
I
guess
I
thought
that
there
was
a
piece,
maybe
I'm,
mixing
up
to
two
because
there's
a
lot
of
similarities:
okay,
but
so
you're
saying
the
Planning
Commission
voted
in
favor
of
the
general
plan,
Amendment
and
rezoning,
and
then
it's
contingent.
The
preliminary
development
plan
and
the
subdivision
plot
is
contingent
on
our
vote
for
the
general
plan.
A
minute,
Amendment
and
rezoning
tonight.
P
Thank
you,
mayor,
Mr
slamboy.
If
you
would
stay
at
the
mic,
just
want
to
throw
in
that
I
think
I
said
on
the
Planning
Commission
when
you
started
your
first
employment
here
back
in
the
early
to
mid-2000s.
Is
that
right.
G
P
P
P
You
and
in
terms
of
design
and
such
is
there
a
design
overlay
for
this
property.
G
B
If
there
are
no
other
questions
from
the
governing
body
at
this
time,
I
will
close
the
public
hearing.
If
you
have
further
questions
that
you
want
to
ask
or
have
to
reopen
it.
B
So
with
that
in
mind,
I
would
now
entertain
a
motion
on
whether
to
Grant
or
deny
the
application
and
look
for
a
second,
and
then
we
can
debate
it.
Council
window.
P
B
B
P
You
mayor
on
case
number,
2021-4378
I,
moved
to
approve
the
request
to
rezone
from
R6
to
our
10,
for
a
property
located
at
1905,
1950,
zero,
zero
and
one
nine
four
one
kaha
Del
Oro
Road
and
four
five
and
seven
Hernandez
Road.
I
J
Mr
Mayor
councilor
Lindell
I,
believe
you
said
from
our
six
to
r10.
It's
rezoning
from
R1
to
r10.
J
It's
it
is
R1
to
r10
and
C2.
M
B
A
F
Moving
on
to
item
19c,
which
is
consideration
of
a
resolution
for
case
number
2021-3814,
the
Vista
Solaris
truck
13
General
plan
Amendment.
This
is
James
W
Siebert
and
Associates
Incorporated
agent
for
Ross
Peak,
holding
a
limited
owner
request,
a
general
fund
amendment
to
amend
the
existing
General
plan.
F
Future
land
use
classification
for
approximately
6.8
Acres
within
the
Los
Solaris
master
plan
area
from
low
density
residential
three
to
seven
dwelling
units
per
acre
to
medium
density,
residential
7
to
12
dwelling
units
per
acre
at
4601,
Rail,
Runner
Road,
and
this
is
presented
by
Heather
lamboy,
our
assistant.
My
news
director.
B
I'll
just
remind
everybody
that
fundamentally
the
same
process
that
applied
to
our
prior
case
applies
to
this
one
with
anyone
who
needs
to
speak
to
issues
of
recusal.
We'll
do
that.
First,
then,
we'll
go
for
the
staff
report,
the
testimony
of
the
applicant
or
applicant
representative
public
sworn
comment,
governed
body
questions,
close
the
public
hearing,
move
to
a
motion,
second
debate
and
a
vote.
Counselor
Garcia.
You,
sir,
have
the
floor.
A
B
Thank
you
councilor
for
identifying
that
I'm
grateful
to
you
for
doing
anyone
else
with
a
similar
disclosure.
If
not
thank
you,
counselor,
we'll
move
on
then
to
the
staff
report.
Hopefully
a
up
to
10
minute
presentation.
G
Good
evening,
mayor
Weber
Solaris
is
a
distinct
case.
Although
there
are
similarities,
you
might
see
that
there's
a
photograph
that
looks
just
like
the
last
presentation
and
yes,
the
applicant
is
Pulte
Homes
and
so
is
their
product,
their
paired
home
products
that
is
being
proposed
at
Los
Solaris
as
well.
G
Just
a
quick
sort
of
administrative
note,
since
council
member
Lee
Garcia
has
left
I.
Just
would
like
to
remind
the
council
that
a
majority
for
the
rejoining
case
since
it
was
recommended
for
denial
by
the
Planning
Commission
majority
of
the
members
presence,
must
vote
in
favor
of
the
project
in
order
to
approve
the
project.
So
that's
five
I'm,
sorry,
majority
of
total
members.
Thank
you,
and
so
that's
five
voting.
Yes,
in
this
particular
case,.
K
Mayor
of
our
counselors
I
I,
see
a
few
confused
faces,
so
I
was
going
to
clarify,
there's
a
statutory
requirement
for
this
for
municipalities
doing
rezonings.
It's
only
for
rezoning
that
a
majority
of
the
whole,
regardless.
How
many
members
are
present,
need
to
approve
a
rezoning
if
they,
the
underlying
recommendation,
was
not
to
resume.
G
3
reference
to
the
other
project
was
slightly
different,
so
the
project
which
is
located
in
Los
Solaris
is
controlled
by
the
Lost
Solaris
master
plan.
So
there
will
be
a
requests
for
master
plan
amendments
as
well
as
rezoning
as
well
as
general
plan
Amendment.
So
the
general
plan
amendment
being
sorry
that
that
30
000
foot
policy
Direction
the
master
plan
Amendment
laying
out
the
the
overall
design
guidelines
and
planning
areas
of
the
Lost
Solaris
development
and
then
the
rezoning
that
actually
deals
with
the
entitlement
that
allows
for
somebody
to
develop
at
a
certain
density.
G
The
general
plan
amendment
is
being
requested
to
change
the
general
plan
category
from
low
density
residential
to
medium
density,
residential.
You
can
see
on
this
map
that
Logan
City
Residential
abuts
on
the
east
of
the
project
site
that's
outlined
in
blue
and
but
across
the
street
Rail
Runner
Road
there
is
medium-density
residential
to
the
north.
There
is
community
commercial
and
also
Park
a
park
humidity,
that's
provided
as
part
of
the
Lost
Solaris
development.
G
G
So,
as
stated
previously,
why
do
we
resign
the
site?
And
why
do
we
select
the
Arts
and
Zone
districts?
It
really
is
that
site
plan
driven
design
so
that
setbacks
and
other
things
development
standards
can
be
determined
by
the
development
plan
and
not
by
sort
of
a
rigid
zoning
standard.
You
know
making
accommodation
for
the
paired
homes
that
are
being
proposed.
G
As
you
can
see,
it's
sort
of
an
inset
map,
the
Zone
districts
are
C2
along
the
corridor,
the
cereus
Road
Corridor
and
then
with
reference
to
the
the
R-12
Zone
District,
which
is
located
across
Rail
Runner
Road
that
is
currently
under
development
with
the
town
homes
and
then
to
the
east,
is
R3
and
that's
large
loss
development.
G
G
The
master
plan
Amendment,
the
master
plan-
covers
all
of
lost
Solaris,
which
includes
things
like
Presbyterian
Hospital,
the
residential
development
to
the
east,
as
well
as
other
commercial
uses
of
budding
Cerrillos
Road.
There
are
Community
amenities
as
well
in
the
master
plan
that
are
intended
to
serve
this
development,
so
the
master
plan
currently
calls
this
out
as
residential
low
density
and
the
need
is
to
make
its
residential
medium
density
originally,
when
the
master
plan
was
developed.
G
So
at
the
Planning
Commission
hearing
the
finding
was
there
was
a
lot
of
discussion
about
the
site,
design
and
concerns,
so
the
discussion
included,
Seth
backs
and
distances
between
buildings
and
some
sort
of
the
overall
experience
by
the
people
that
will
be
living
there.
Once
again,
availability
of
parking
for
residents
and
guests
was
an
issue
that
was
discussed,
the
private
yard
side.
There
was
size
there
were
questions
about.
G
It
was
just
the
recommendation
of
the
Planning
Commission
to
recommend
denial
to
the
governing
body
for
the
general
plan
amendments
the
rezoning,
as
well
as
the
master
plan
Amendment
on
the
basis
of
you,
know
not
having
met
the
criteria
and
the
opinion
of
the
Planning
Commission
as
to
the
quality
of
life,
standard
and
compatibility
and
so
on,
and
also
at
that
meeting,
the
Planning
Commission
denied
the
preliminary
development
plan
and
the
preliminary
subdivision
plan.
G
So
in
this
particular
case,
if
the
governing
body
finds
that
those
criteria
are
met
and
ultimately
approves
this
project
or
these
changes,
then
the
project
will
have
to
have
additional
review
and
the
start
for
the
preliminary
development
plan
review
we'll
have
to
will
have
to
be
considered
before
final
development
plan.
So
there's
additional
steps
here
that
did
not
apply
in
the
previous
cases
that
we
just.
B
Thank
you
we'll
now
turn
to
the
applicant,
the
applicant's
representative
for
a
opening
statement,
sworn
witness
testimony.
Hopefully
we
can
hear
from
you
in
15
minutes
or
so
that's
appropriate.
Q
So
this
is
a
Ice
tip.
North
is
Governor
Miles
Road
and
to
the
West
is
Rail
Runner
Road.
Obviously,
both
of
these
roadways
are
complete,
have
been
fully
constructed.
Q
This
is
a
description
of
the
Assessor's
map
and
showing
actually
kind
of
the
variety
of
activity
is
taking
place
along
along
sarias
road
is
more
commercial
in
nature,
long
long
strips
that
go
all
the
way
to
and
past
they
really
chumiso
the
and
then
to
the
mainly
to
the.
A
Q
Is
units
one
and
two
of
Via
de
los
Suarez,
and
this
is
really
always
been
considered-
an
extension
of
units,
one
and
two
the
covenants
will
be
the
same,
and
the
HOA
documents
will
be
the
same
for
unit
3
as
in
units.
One
and
two.
Q
This
is
lamboy
talked
about
the
zoning,
and
this
is
a
description.
What
the
the
surrounding
zoning
is.
You
have
Community
commercial
or
General
commercial
to
the
north
and
and
to
the
West
along
cerius,
Road
Unit,
one
and
two
are
actually
zoned
R12
12
units
per
acre
right
now.
Q
This
property
is
on
our
six
is
stated
in
the
report
and
then
R3
is
those
properties
are
largely
vacant.
They
do
have
what
are
one
residential
unit
on
each
of
each
of
those
Parcels
to
to
the
east?
We
anticipate
there
will
be
Redevelopment
those
properties
future.
Q
So
these
are
the
trails
that
were
approved
for
the
Las
Polaris
development
and
what
exists
today
is
the
trail
at
the
North
Side
along
Governor
Miles
Road,
and
then
you
can
see
it's
going
down
south
into
the
park
and
then
the
majority
of
the
trails
and
into
the
park
have
been
constructed
as
well.
These
are
10
foot,
wide
city,
city
trails,
there's
also
a
10
foot
wide
Trail
along
Rail
Runner
Road
on
the
west
side
of
Railway
Road.
Q
Into
Nava
day
at
this
point
actually
has
a
fairly
extensive
trail
system
as
well.
The
the
trail
you
see
going
north
is
actually
the
trail
that
the
city
intends
to
it
doesn't
exist
today.
It's
the
city,
trail
system,
the
city's
responsible
for,
and
it
will
Connect
into
the
right
to
Mesa
Trail
and
then,
once
that
connection
takes
place,
it'll
actually
be
able
to
bicycle
from
this
property
or
other
properties
in
units.
One
and
two
all
the
way
into
the
downtown
area.
Q
Q
At
this
point
in
terms
of
the
park,
the
park
has
a
has
two
soccer
fields
that
actually
have
been
accepted
by
the
city
and
then
a
dog
park
and
a
children's
park
is
recent,
recently
been
completed
and
then
on
you
know,
units
one
and
two
there's
also
a
small
neighborhood,
open
space
area
with
shelters
and
areas
where
people
can
grow
their
food,
and
that's
that
actually
has
been
completed
as
well.
Unit
3
will
have
access
to
those
same
facilities
in
the
units
one
and
one
and
two.
Q
So,
what's
being
considered
tonight
is
the
general
plan
Amendment
the
amendment
to
the
Los
lures
master
plan
and
they're
rezoning
from
R6
to
r10.
Q
Q
Q
Here
is
the
exact
same
product
that
you
saw
on
the
previous
case
and
the
exact
same
product
that
exists
currently
today
in
the
N
is
one
and
two
and
I
might
point
out
that
out
of
the
171
Lots
that
were
developed
in
units
one
and
two
all
the
homes
have
either
been
built,
occupied
or
under
contract.
At
this
point,
so
polti
is
not
a
product
at
this
point
when
when
we
had
gone
to
the
Planning
Commission,
we
had
submitted
this
as
a
44
lot
subdivision
and
development
plan.
Q
Q
It
will
have
20
feet
between
dwellings.
It
will
have
a
common
walkway
between
the
units
which
connect
anywhere
that
there
is
a
trail
or
sidewalk
will
connect
directly
to
that
sidewalk.
It
also
has
a
substantial
number
of
off
lot
perking
in
addition
to
the
online
parking
through
just
to
emphasize
and
I'm
incorrect.
The
statement
I
said
it
still
requires
a
final
Platinum
plan,
which
it
does.
Q
But
in
this
case,
because
the
Platinum
plant
were
not
approved
by
the
Planning
Commission,
as
Mrs
lamboy
stated,
we
have
to
go
back
and
start
the
process
again
with
a
Planning
Commission,
which
is
preliminary
flat
and
preliminary
plan.
In
this
case,
we
think
that
we're
going
to
receive
a
favorable
recommendation
to
the
Planning
Commission
since
we're
acting
on
their
directive,
that
we
received
them.
Q
So
this
this
is
the
mayor.
Q
D
Q
Counselor
Romero
worth
the
what's
proposed
on
this
plan,
and
the
plan
that's
in
front
of
you,
is
instead
of
five
foot
side
yards
that
we
had
previously
when
the
planet
commission
heard
the
first
cave
the
first
time
around.
There
would
be
a
10-foot
side
yard.
D
Q
Q
You
that's
me
coherently,
the
and
so
now
the
distance
between
the
dwellings
on
the
lodge
instead
of
being
10
feet
between
dwellings,
it's
now
20
feet.
A
Q
And-
and
as
mentioned,
we,
we
will
be
using
the
the
same
style
in
terms
of
the
access
between
the
units,
so
that
there's
two
walls
in
the
common
walkway.
Q
And
then
this
is
what
this
new
40
lot
project
would
would
look
like
the
road,
the
area
in
Gray
or
public
roadways
on
Rail
Runner
Road,
there's
an
existing
City
sidewalk
on
Governor
miles.
There's
an
existing
City
sidewalk.
We
have
the
units
directly
connecting
to
to
the
city
sidewalks.
In
this
particular
case,
the
there
is
an
emergency
access
that
we've
worked
out
with
the
fire
department
in
this
particular
case,
and
this
this
was
a
challenge
just
because
it
was
a
parcel
of
land
that
was
fairly
narrow.
Q
Q
The
the
one
thing
to
keep
in
mind
is
that
with
the
40
units
and
the
area
of
this
particular
tract,
the
density
is
now
5.8
dwellings
per
acre,
so
we're
actually,
the
same
density
is
allowed
by
the
underlying
zoning
R6,
the
the
difference
being.
We
have
to
go
to
a
higher
density
because
we
don't
have
the
development
standards
that
allow
us
to
do
this
kind
of
design
and
I.
Q
Just
maybe
aside,
I
I
think
you
know
we're
dealing
with
a
city
code
that
the
zoning
you
know
the
zoning
component
is
probably
15
20
years
old
by
now.
I
think
it's
about
time
that
you
know
some
revisions
are
are
needed
to
the
code
to
reflect
the
kind
of
more
modern
approach
to
development.
That's
currently
taking
place
so
I.
Think
with
that,
that's
yeah!
B
F
A
Me,
my
name
is
Dennis
Dodson
and
I
resign
at
4804,
Rail,
Runner,
Road,
Santa,
Fe,
New,
Mexico,
87507,
okay,.
F
A
Okay,
what
I'd
like
to
say,
first
of
all,
for
folks
that
don't
know
4804
Rail,
Runner
Road,
is
where
the
low
income
units
are
currently
and
well.
You
might
want
to
know
why
I
have
a
little
skin
in
this
game,
and
that
is
because
the
folks
that
live
in
these
dwellings
are
people
that
are
disabled,
elderly
and
poor,
and,
and
these
are
folks
that
generally
don't
have
a
lot
of
political,
Capital
or
or.
H
L
A
In
these
matters,
in
fact,
I
just
found
out
about
this
hearing
and
I,
don't
know
if
you
know
this
type
of
discourse
that
I'm
presenting
here
is
appropriate
for
this,
but
but
what
I
have
to
say
may
be
germane
to
some
of
your
decisions.
A
First
of
all,
I'm
I'm
concerned
about
some
public
health
issues.
I've
been
living
in
the
at
Solaris
station.
For
three
years
now,
I
was
one
of
the
first
residents.
A
I
I
was
awarded
a
unit
because
of
my
disability
and
Veteran
status,
and
and
since
I've
been
there
I've
noticed
a
decrease
in
air
quality
and
and
and
traffic
and
and
and
just
you
know
what
is
Left
Behind
from
the
construction
of
the
we'll
look
at
the
whole
project.
That
is
happening.
You
know
right
across
from
my
apartment,
there's
still
they're
still
trash
from
the
last
building
that
one
that
took
place
and
excuse
me:
I
have
a
neurological
disorder.
A
So
sometimes
you
know
I,
stutter
and
stuck,
but.
D
A
A
Now.
I
understand
that
people
and
developers
need
to
earn
a
profit,
but
I
would
like
to
see
things
slow
down
a
little
bit.
You
know
maybe
not
a
moratorium,
but
but
you
know
there
there
are
definitely
a
lot
of
issues
here
that
are
problematic.
A
You
know,
I
rode
my
bicycle
here
and
you
know
on
Rail,
Runner,
Road
and
Governor
miles
wrote
I
almost
got
struck
by
an
automobile.
You
know,
because
you
know
a
lot
of
these
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
the
traffic
and
recent
traffic,
because
traffic
has
increased,
you
know
sees
the
roundabouts,
as
being
you
know,
places
to
to
race,
and
so
anyway,
you
know
this
creates
another
concern.
A
You
know
and
my
neighbors
have
expressed.
You
know
similar
concerns.
B
A
Well,
my
concluding
thought
is
I
think
you
need
to
slow
it
down,
because
you
know
there
are
definitely
health
concerns
and
or
public
health
concerns,
and
you
know
this
is
all
inclusive
of
what
I
just
said.
Thank.
B
A
B
B
F
R
R
Absolutely
absolutely
okay!
Thank
you.
R
So
I
was
at
the
meeting
a
year
ago
when
the
Planning
Commission
rejected
polti's
proposal,
and
when
this
came
up
again
that
they're
running
trying
to
get
the
the
mayor
and
the
counselors
to
change
it
I
wonder
what
major
changes
they
have
done
to
really
promote
their
a
new
plan.
Well,
I
was
not
able
to
get
anything
other
than
the
fact
that
they
were
going
to
present
it
again
to
the
city,
the
city,
fathers,
so
I
don't
see
anything
at
that
plan.
R
That
really
makes
it
any
better
for
people
who
did
live
in
Villas
de
la
Solaris.
The
density
is
very
high
here.
R
R
R
Okay,
so
this
is
unit
one,
the
front
door
so
between
the
walls
of
the
the
houses,
so
you
walk
in
to
get
into
your
house,
so
this
particular
one
in
unit
one
is
nine
and
a
half
feet.
Look
if
there's
nothing
to
write
home
about,
but
it's
nine
and
a
half
feet
in
unit
two
okay.
This
is
what
it
is
in
unit
two.
Can
you
see
it?
Yes,
okay.
This
is
six
feet
in
unit
two
I
can't
even
imagine
what
it's
going
to
be
in
unit
3.
now
unit
two.
R
This
is
the
parking
between
the
garages.
These
are
not
full-size
driveways,
where
I
live,
they're,
half
and
half
I
happen
to
have
never
even
never
even
dawned
on
me
that
I
might
not
have
a
full
a
driveway,
but
I
do
I
was
lucky.
I
got
a
full
one,
the
people
to
live
opposite
for
me
in
this
Alleyway
that
you
see.
So
this
is
unit
three
unit,
two
I'm,
sorry,
they
are
no
full
driveways,
they're,
half
the
size.
Okay,
this
is
how
polti
is
planning
to
condense
unit
3..
R
Now
we
were
not
able
to
get
any
plans
a
detailed
plan.
They
wouldn't
give
it
to
us
to
study
it.
Okay,
they
expect
us
to
understand
what
they're
doing
and
what
they're
presenting
to
you,
but
the
little
people
you
don't
have
the
right
to
see
any
of
it.
So
I
ask
you
I
urge
you
to
reject
their
their
plan.
R
F
Hi
This
is
Connie
overly
hi
Connie.
Do
you
want
me
to
promote
you
so
that
your
video
is
available
on
screen.
F
Okay,
give
me
one
moment
just
so:
everyone
knows
this
was
a
new
request
that
came
in
people
could
be
on
video.
They
would
be
so.
F
F
You
Connie
and
then,
if
I
could
just
get
you
to
state
your
name
and
your
address.
You
can
just
do
the
street
name:
city,
state
and
zip
code.
Okay,.
R
F
F
R
Last
gentleman
that
spoke
ups
and
Solaris.
R
The
density
of
those
units
are
very
tight
and
the
parking
is
becoming
a
very,
very
dense.
Some
garages
do
not
have
the
the
square
footage
to
support
two
two
cars
and
many
of
the
garages.
They
have
to
go
ahead
and
park
parallel
alongside
the
garage
because
they
can't
fit
a
car
and
we're
talking
a
small
car,
not
even
a
large
car.
If
you
have
a
truck
you're
on
a
lot
there
that
they
are
now
parking
on
the
gravel
part
of
the
joining
area
from
their
houses.
R
In
addition
to
that,
because
we
are
so
close
to
the
park,
we
are
the
second
unit
from
the
park.
We
are
now
getting
a
lot
of
the
traffic
from
the
park.
Who
Parked
alongside
the
I
guess
the
the
border
to
the
park
in
Los
oleros,
which
causes
further
congestion
into
that
neighborhood.
In
fact,
I
don't
think
an
emergency
vehicle
would
be
able
to
get
by
there
if
they
needed
to
in
the
future
or
or
now
for
that
matter.
R
But
once
those
units
in
the
that
are
closer
to
Cerrillos
Road
are
occupied,
the
traffic
is
going
to
increase
tremendously
and
that's
not
just
for
the
units
that
we
are
in
right
now,
but
also
in
the
proposed
land
units
that
are
I
guess
what's
being
called
unit.
Three
I,
don't
see
that
there's
any
parking
for
guests
in
that
area
and
if
garages
are
designed
in
a
way.
P
B
You
yeah
are
there
others,
either
in
the
zoom
room
waiting
or
in
this
room
waiting.
F
No
mayor
that
was
the
last
individual,
however
I
believe
staff
has
a
clarification
that
they
wanted
to
mention.
Okay,.
J
Mr
Mayor
members
of
council,
the
the
cases
before
you
today
are
the
general
plan
Amendment
the
rezoning
and
the
master
plan
Amendment
those
all
deal
with
density.
Essentially
they
revised
development
plan
that
Mr
Siebert
was
showing
you
he's
not
something
that
you
are
voting
on
right
now,
and
even
if
you
approve
these
things
today,
it
would
not
be
binding,
so
that
development
plan
is
a
suggestion
of
what
could
happen,
but
it
does
not
mean
that
that
is
what
would
happen.
Were
you
to
approve
these
items.
B
Q
Q
That
Pulte
needs
to
Simply
proceed
forward,
I
think
when
we
went
to
the
Continental
oral,
what
in
front
of
the
playing
commission
with
kahul
the
Laurel
that
we
felt
like
they
had
given
us
sufficient
direction
that
we
could
prepare
a
plan
when
we
went
back
to
them
with
preliminary
flat
that
would
satisfy
their
concerns
now
going
back
to
them
with
preliminary
plaid
is
almost
identical
to
to
what
you're
requesting
we
we
do
have
to
kind
of
be
with
the
Planning
Commission.
We
have
to
begin
begin
all
begin
the
process
all
over.
Q
If
we
go
back
to
the
Planning
Commission
and
then
have
to
come
back
to
the
city
council,
we're
probably
talking
another
five
to
six
seven
months
in
the
in
the
interim.
What
could
happen
is
the
current
owner
of
the
property
could
say?
Well,
we
just
we
can't
wait
that
long.
So
there
was
a
sense
of
urgency
that
made
us
take
take
the
path
that
we
did.
L
Thank
you
for
that
clarification,
Mr
Siebert,
but
from
my
understanding
or
from
the
documentation
this
was
denied
over
a
year
ago.
So
a
little
concerned
now
there's
the
urgency
and
whereas
it
could
have
been.
Q
F
S
S
So
mayor,
council,
council
members,
thank
you
very
much.
Let
me
explain
kind
of
a
little
bit
maybe
to
provide
some
color
to
this,
so
you
can
have
a
better
understanding.
Why
we're
here
before
you
tonight
and
so
we've
on
both
these
projects,
we've
had
what
we
believed:
a
financial
impact
and
a
significant
delay.
As
you
mentioned,
this
happened
over
a
year
ago,
and
so
what
we
had
was
we
knew
that
we
were
going
to
come
before
the
training
commission
again
with
kaha
De
Oro
with
the
same
project.
S
S
If
we
would
have
had
that
opportunity
ideas,
we
probably
could
have
worked
this
out
just
like
we
did
at
kaha,
and
this
wouldn't
have
been
an
issue
even
the
cop
that
there
was
a
recommendation
of
denial
and
we
were
bringing
we
had
made
already
made
the
application
for
Oro.
We
took
that
opportunity
to
to
revise
and
edit
that
plan
in
conjunction
with
the
Planning
Commission
I
thought
it
was
a
great
opportunity.
I
thought
we
worked
well
together.
We
came
up
with
a
plan
that
was
a
win-win.
S
It
was
unanimous
approval
by
the
Planning
Commission,
with
what
we
came
up
with.
Unfortunately,
with
that
there
was,
there
was
still
that
delay
we
still
had.
We
were
in
February
of
last
this
year.
We
were
actually
approved
for
the
recommendation
for
approval
for
the
Zone
The
Zone
implemented
the
specific
area
plan
that
didn't
get
heard.
S
It
went
from
February
to
to
May
and
then
Maize
Maize
was
actually
in
the
entire
month
of
May
was
deferred
until
June,
and
then
even
June,
we're
here
now
from
June
that
approval
in
June,
with
those
things
didn't
happen
until
we're
here
before
you
tonight,
and
so
you
can
see
just
the
long.
S
The
the
amount
of
time
that
it's
taken
just
to
get
here
for
for
kaha.
What
we
wanted
to
do
is
make
sure
that
that
both
the
Planning
Commission
and
the
governing
body
approved
what
we
were.
What
we
had
done
at
cajada
Oro
didn't
seem
like
that.
We
would
go
through
that
effort
again
on
these
de
la
Solaris
that
you
see
tonight
unless
kaha.
So
we
took
this
project
that
we
had
worked
hand
in
hand
with
the
Planning.
S
Commission
came
up
with
a
great
plan,
unanimous
decision
again
also
unanimous
tonight
with
you
all,
and
so
we
thought
well,
if
it's
approved
car
has
approved
by
both
the
Planning
Commission
and
the
governing
body,
and
we
incorporate
these
same.
We
know
that
we
have
to
go
back
to
Planning
Commission.
So
if,
if
if
they
rejected
it
once
and
we
didn't
meet
the
criteria
we
felt
like
they
would
still
have
that
opportunity.
S
Even
if
this
governing
body
tonight
approves
our
request,
still
goes
back
to
Planning
Commission
and
they
still
have
the
opportunity
to
represent
the
the
concerns
if
they
felt
like
we,
we
haven't
Incorporated
and
addressed
the
issues
that
were
before
them
last
time,
so
they
still
have
that
opportunity.
S
They
still
have
the
opportunity
to
to
if
they
have
that,
because
you're
going
to
have
a
development
plan,
you're
going
to
have
the
same
issues
so
I
just
think
that
if,
if
it's
to
be
approved
tonight,
you'll
still
have
that
opportunity
to
address
public
concerns
in
the
Planning
Commission.
If
we
don't
can
then
again
reject
it,
deny
it
until
we
get
it
right.
L
G
I
remember
councilmember
Garcia
the
kahaduro
case
had
a
preliminary
subdivision
plot,
as
well
as
a
preliminary
development
plan
approved
by
the
Planning
Commission
contingent
on
government
governing
body
activity
or
action.
So,
but
with
reference
to
this,
those
were
denied,
so
they
would
have
to
start
from
scratch
on
those
particular.
L
Right
so
I
think
that's
the
big
difference
here.
Is
that
the
earlier
case
you
can,
you
can
say
they
were
similar,
but
the
earlier
case
had
a
plan
that
was
approved
by
the
Planning
Commission.
This
one
doesn't
yet
because
it
would
have
to
go
back
before
the
Planning
Commission
for
approval
am
I
understanding
the
process
correctly.
J
Mayor
council,
council
members-
yes,
that
is,
that
is
the
process,
but
what
you,
what
you
are
deciding
tonight,
is
essentially
just
the
density,
so
it
doesn't
require
there
to
be
a
development
plan
or
a
subdivision
plot
for
you
to
for
you
to
approve
it
or
to
vote
on
it
at
all.
So
that
is
that
is
up
to
you,
but
it
is
correct
that
it
would
have
to
go
back
to
the
Planning
Commission
for
those
things
were
they
to
want
to
develop
it,
whereas
the
previous
case
they
were
already
approved.
Okay,.
L
Thank
you
for
clarifying
I,
understand
that
and
I
think
that's
the
missing
piece
here,
then,
is
the
plan,
because
the
plan
ultimately
helps
to
determine
is
the
community
getting
supported?
It's
not
I
mean
the
plan
that
was
proposed,
even
though
it's
proposed
it's
not
in
front
of
us,
wasn't
receiving
the
support
from
the
community
at
the
moment
and
I
think
that's
where
don't
want
to
put
the
cart
before
the
horse
and
that's
where
my
concerns
come
in
in
regards
to
go
through
the
proper
process
versus
getting
the
the
density
rezoned,
then
the
development
plan.
L
So
with
that,
no
other
questions,
Mr
Miller
you're
the
floor.
A
Mr
Mayor,
if
I
may
just
add
a
little
bit
more
context
to
counselor
Garcia's
question
and
kind
of
explain
how
the
rezoning
is
essential.
Yeah.
B
A
So
Mr
Mayor,
counselor,
Garcia
I
think
you
brought
up
a
valid
point,
but
the
rezoning
is
more
for
dimensional
standard
purposes.
We
can't
move
forward
with
the
design
without
the
rezoning.
If
we
start
over
from
scratch
with
an
R6,
we
can't
provide
this
product
or
this
design.
So
it's
essential
that
we
get
the
dimensional
standards
of
an
r10
in
order
to
move
forward
with
the
Planning
Commission
on
this
design.
L
Because
what
you're
telling
what
it
sounds
like
you're
saying
into
what
I'm
and
what
I'm
hearing
unfortunately
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
is
that
you
have
to
have
the
rezone
and
then
the
plan
which
I,
don't
believe,
is
the
case
you
can.
You
can
have
the
plan
along
with
the
proposed
rezoning
presented
as
a
package,
a
staff
is
that
correct.
A
G
Correct
that
well
on
two
two
items
so
that
the
governing
body
can
act
independent
of
a
site
development
plan,
and
but
it
seems
to
me
that
the
governing
body
is
concerned
and
hearing
from
the
community
that
you
need
to
understand
exactly.
What's
going
to
be
built
to
determine
whether
the
density
is
okay,
so
it
can
be
concurrent.
Those
types
of
things
can
run
concurrent
to
other
processes.
L
Thank
you
and
I
guess
that's.
My
concern
is
we're
setting
unusual
precedent
where
usually
the
normal
track
is
there's
a
plan
coupled
with
a
rezone
and
right
now
we're
proposing
a
rezone
without
a
development
plan
and
and
I
think
setting
this
precedent
could
be
really
dangerous
for
the
future.
For
given
that
we're
we've,
because
we're
working
on
the
general
plan
reconfiguring
and
we're
piece,
Milling
rezoning
right
now,
I
don't
want
to
put
us
in
a
position
where,
in
the
future
somebody
says
well
we'll
rezone
and
then
we'll.
L
We
will
present
the
plan
later
that
that's
to
me
not
proper
planning,
City
Planning
I'll
defer
to
the
expert
next
to
me,
who
actually
has
a
degree
in
it,
but
I
think
I,
don't
like
breaking
the
precedent,
so
I
understand
what
you're
testifying
that
we
can
feel
different.
But
it's
not
the
precedent
that's
usually
set
before
us.
So
thank
you
for
the
clarification.
J
If
I,
if
I
may,
make
one
other
point,
mayor,
council
members
so
the
previous
case,
the
development
plan
approval
was
contingent
on
the
rezone
in
so
in
this
case,
whatever
you
decide
on
the
rezoning,
if
you
do
decide
to
rezone
that
doesn't
automatically
make
a
development
plan
happen,
nor
does
it
mean
that
they
could
go
back
to
their
old
development
plan
and
have
it
approved
by
Planning
Commission.
They
would
still
have
to
go
back
to
Planning
Commission
and
have
Planning
Commission
approve
whatever
they
decide.
J
B
A
No,
it
kind
of
just
seems
like
with
the
timing
constraints,
with
anything
we're
trying
to
bypass
that
extra
step
if
you
will
and
try
to
streamline
things
if
the
issue
was
quality
of
life
and
the
issue
has
been
solved
with
the
designs
provided
at
kaha
Del
Oro
and
we
worked
so
close
with
the
Planning
Commission
to
come
up
with
that
design.
It
just
seems
like
another
step
to
what's
already
been
a
pretty
lengthy
process.
So
that's
why
we
tried
to
come
before
you
tonight
for
the
rezoning
first.
Thank.
B
A
B
D
I,
don't
I
don't
care
who,
whatever
I
I'm,
not
going
to
take
very
long?
How
often
I
guess
this
question
for
staff?
How
often,
let's
like
get
ourselves
out
of
this
thing
tonight?
G
Council
member
Romero
worth
Lee,
there
always
needs
to
be
a
concept
and
justification
for
a
rezoning
master
plan.
Amendment
in
general
plan
amendments
and
part
of
your
package
includes
a
report
from
the
applicant
part
of
that
package
is
justification
about
density
and
how
it's
going
to
be
comparable
in
the
region.
You
know
in
the
immediate
area
and
the
impacts
and
the
like,
so
to
justify
that
in
a
report
there
needs
to
be
concept,
so
the
city
code
does
not
require
a
company
plan.
G
For
you
know,
a
preliminary
development
plan
or
final
development
plan
is
not
required
for
the
governing
body
to
access
tonight,
but
the
concepts
plan
typically
is
something
that's
discussed.
G
The
applicant
did
a
bit
of
a
disservice
to
the
governing
body
Side
by
trying
to
design
from
the
podium
and
and
sort
of
compare
two
different
things
from
two
different
cases,
and
this
particular
case
is
independent
of
the
other
case.
It
should
be
considered
on
its
own
merits
so,
but
the
governing
body
can
act
on
the
proposals
before
you
tonight,
regardless
of
whether
there's
a
development
plan
or
not.
D
Okay
and
I
guess,
with
all
due
respect
to
my
colleague
precedent,
might
be
too
strong.
A
word
like
I
think
what
you're
saying
is
we
we
could
do
this,
make
these
changes
to
the
zoning
to
the
general
plan
to
the
master
plan
and
then
go
back
for
the
specifics
that
they're
talking
about
or
we
could
do
what's
been
suggested,
which
is
you
guys,
go
back
figure
it
out
then
come
back
and
ask
us
for
all
these
changes.
D
But
in
terms
of
I
mean
precedent
is
a
very
strong
legal
word
and
so
I'm
not
sure
that
we
are
diverging
from
from
some
set
steps
that
always
have
to
come
in
a.
G
Mayor
council,
member
Romero
worth
yes,
precedent
is
a
strong
word
and
that's
why
I
mentioned
that
the
governing
body
can
act
upon
this
independent
of
any
development
plan
or
class.
The
practice
is
that
there's
an
idea,
a
concept,
that's
being
forwarded
for
you
to
consider
the
application
or
the
change
in
density,
but
there
is
no
requirement
for
development
planning.
D
Okay
and
then
I
think
the
underlying
concern
is
that
how
do
we
address
the
public
comment
that
we
just
heard?
How
do
we
address
the
concerns
that
have
been
raised
by
the
community
and
in
doing
what's
happening
here
tonight?
A
D
If
we
did
it
this,
even
if
we
make
back
for
the
development
plan
or
for
this
design,
I
don't
even
know
if
I'm
using
the
right
words.
If
we
go
back
for
the
the
actual
design
of
it,
that
there
is
the
opportunity
for
the
Public's
concerns
to
be
addressed.
G
D
A
G
D
G
D
May
not
be
able
to
answer
this,
but-
and
the
applicant
may
not
be
able
to
answer
this
because
we
don't
have
the
development
plan
in
front
of
us.
So
we
don't
know
whether
that's
going
to
be
but
they're
proposing,
even
with
the
new
idea
that
they
came,
that
they
that
they
talked
about
in
their
testimony.
D
D
I
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
I
think
the
fact
that
I've
been
on
this
Council
and
then
I
was
on
the
Planning
Commission.
This
is
kind
of
a
leapfrog
approach
and
usually,
if
there's
a
you
know,
changes
in
design.
The
whole
piece
goes
back
to
the
Planning
Commission
for
consideration
and
so
I
guess.
In
my
opinion,
it's
cleaner
I,
like
things
to
be
moving
so
that
they
can
address
the
issues
that
were
not
addressed
at
the
time.
I
We're
hearing
considerations
and
redesign
components,
but
it's
just
as
a
side
note
so
I'd
rather
the
Planning
Commission
hear
it
as
the
full
piece
so
that
they
can
then
have
the
different
aspects
that
they
were
concerned
about
as
it
relates
to
redesign,
but
also
zoning
I,
think
it
I
mean
I,
think
it
just
comes
in
a
full
package
and
that's
why
I
feel
like
it
should
all
go.
Especially
since
it's
been
a
year.
I
still
didn't
understand
that
timeline.
I
It
didn't
make
any
sense
to
me
a
whole
year
to
say
these
are
the
things
we
need
to
work
on.
What
do
we
need
to
work
on?
First,
it
just
seemed
like
it
should
have
gone,
but
back
to
the
Planning
Commission
at
whatever
point
it
just
that
we're
here
now
and
I'm.
You
know
I'm
not
opposed
to
the
there's
the
rezoning
and
the
different
like
density
changes,
it
just
I,
guess
conceptually
I
think
it
all
kind
of
goes
together,
and
so
that's
why
when
I
was
reading
this
I'm
like?
I
Why
are
we
hearing
this
now?
This
was
over
a
year
ago
and
then
my
first
question,
but
you
did
kind
of
answer
it
in
the
presentation
is
what
has
changed
since
the
last
time.
The
Planning
Commission
heard
this
case
and
you
did
go
through
some
components
of
redesign
and
I
guess
it
just
seems
like
it
could
have
been
cleaner
or
how
this
was
what
you
all
did
to
Comedy
and
I
think
the
public
would
understand
it
better.
Like
oh
yeah,
we
heard
you
we
configured
some
things.
I
I
We
are
again
I
know
it
takes
a
little
more
time,
but
I
don't
know
the
timeline
exactly,
but
I
just
feel
like,
since
we've
already
heard
this
we're
kind
of,
we
will
understand
it,
so
that's
kind
of
where
I'm
standing
and
then
the
other
thing
that,
just
in
my
back
of
my
brain
that
some
of
you
haven't
heard
because
you
weren't
on
the
councils,
there
was
been
a
lot
of
there's
been
infrastructure
improvements
that
you
outlined
in
the
your
description
about
like
what
what
kind
of
amenities
and
things
were
done.
I
But
there
were
a
lot
of
problems.
Y'all
there
were
the
park
issues.
There
was
dust
issues.
There
were
other
things
that
just
didn't
make
sense
that
people
were
not
feeling
like
they
were
being
heard
about
some
of
the
construction
inconsistency,
so
that
still
stays
in
my
brain
I
can't
let
that
go
because
I've
heard
it
so
long.
This
development
had
issues
from
left
and
right
and
I'm
glad
to
see
that
things
were
fixed
and
that
other
units
and
the
other
phases,
but
I
guess
I,
would
just
feel
more
comfortable.
B
S
S
Guess,
I
guess
again
trying
to
talk
in
my
shoes
to
understand
how
we
came
up
and
we
just
didn't
feel
like
we
should
go
back
to
the
world
didn't
out.
So
if
the
governing
body
tonight
protected
our
request,
we
would
have
probably
left
both
projects
and
said
well.
Obviously,
if,
if
it's
not
going
to
work
out
for
paja
Del
Oro,
we
would
not
even
seek
going
back
for
Villas
de
la
Solaris,
and
so
it
was
important
to
understand
how
everybody
would
think
too.
S
We
may
not
have
an
opportunity
to
bring
this
back
through
the
process
that
you're
discussing,
because
our
purchase
sales
agreement
with
the
underlying
property
owner
May.
Is
it
going
to
expire
and
they're
going
to
say,
hey
you've
had
all
this
time
to
go
through
this,
and
although
we
were
denied
I
guess
my
petition,
or
my
request
before
you
all
is
you've.
S
You've
heard
a
similar
plan,
I've
shared
with
you,
we've
actually,
given
you
a
concept
plan
binding
or
not
binding
I'm,
on
record
I'm,
sharing
with
you
that
that
the
plan
that
we
visited
United
is
exactly
what
we're
gonna
put
an
end
and
the
Planning
Commission,
and
it's
up
to
them
to
whether
or
not
they're
going
to
reject
that
there's
a
binding.
But
yet
we
give
it
to
the
cocktail
plan
approved
by
Planning
Commission,
but
I'm,
not
hearing
that
it
has
to
be
a
player
has
to
be
even
provided.
S
We've
shared
one
with
you
again,
whether
or
not
that
will
be
approved
by
Planning
Commission.
Those
details
have
to
be
worked
out
with
them,
but
we
have
shared
with
you.
I
can
share
with
you
that
the
driveways
are
we've
heard
comments
from
that
that
were
mentioned
there.
We've
addressed
those
all.
Those
driveways
are
20
feet,
long.
S
Any
concept
plan
it's
up
to
you,
whether
or
not
you
have
I
guess,
faith
in
the
Planning
Commission
to
address
those
concerns
that
can
be
heard
at
BNN.
Also
the
opportunity,
the
public
information
at
that
time
approve
this
rezoning
money.
Commission,
then
you
can
have,
you
know,
are
they
which
there
was
really
is
and
actually
incorporate
those
I
would
say
yes,
but
obviously
otherwise
they
would
not
have
denied
the
previous
one.
M
Okay,
a
couple
questions
normally
when
we
approve
something
we're
approving
with
a
preliminary
development
plan
correct
and
then
the
final
development
plan
does
have
to
go
to
Planning.
Commission
am
I
remembering
that
process
correctly.
J
Mayor
counselors,
that
is,
that,
is
a
process.
Okay,
it
doesn't
necessarily
need.
J
M
And
then
I'm
just
I'm
trying
to
find
a
balance
here
and
I'm
curious.
If
we
can
hear
the
case
and
if
we
do
choose
to
approve
approved
with
conditions
so
approve
a
you
know,
we
would
not
be
approving
a
development
plan
anyway,
but
if
we
were
to
approve
a
oh,
what
is
it
General
plan
Amendment
rezone
master
plan
Amendment,
with
the
condition
that
it
does
receiver
I
mean
we're
supposed
to
be
the
final
Arbiter
on
that.
But
can
we
essentially
send
it
down
like
we're
cool?
M
Is
that
a
Planning
Commission
is
able
to
approve
a
development
plan
and
if
they
do
not
approve
a
development
plan,
it
Resorts
back
to
what
the
original
zoning
was,
because
it
seems
like
the
real
issue
here
is
that
the
development
plan
was
not
up
to
Planning
Commission
standards,
which
actually
does
make
me
feel
more
comfortable
about
sending
it
back,
as
they
were,
were
so
strict
with
it
and
really
looking
at
these
design
issues
and
concerns.
M
J
S
B
S
Counters
I
thought
that
was
an
excellent
point,
so
my
question
that
gets
to
Legal
is
let's,
let's,
if
I
could,
let's
say,
caja
Del
Oro,
let's
say
polti,
you've
approved
the
zoning
and,
and
we
do
have
a
a
preliminary
development
plan.
I
have
a
close
on
the
property.
Let's
say:
I
I
Pulte
doesn't
close
on
that
property.
S
It's
currently
rezoned
someone
else
could
come
in
do
an
entirely
different
plan
that
you've
seen
before
you
is
that
correct,
and
as
long
as
it
meets
the
current
zoning
that
you
just
approved,
it
could
be
totally
different
than
what
you
saw
what
Planning
Commission
approved.
So
so
in
essence,
just
because
you
have
even
a
preliminary
one
approved
Planning
Commission,
it's
also
not
binding.
If
I
don't,
we
could
leave
and
again
somebody
else
come
in
and
do
a
totally
different
plan.
Is
that
correct
the.
B
S
J
That,
yes,
yes,
once
once
the
property
is
rezoned
it.
It
is
rezoned
a
different
development
plan
could
come
in.
It
would
still
have
to
be
approved
by
the
Planning
Commission.
If
it
were
big
enough,
if
it
was
something
where
say
you
re-zoned
to
R1,
and
someone
wanted
to
build
a
single
family
house
on
R1,
it
would
not
need
to
go
back
to
land
commission,
but
for
a
large
development
yeah
that
needs
a
development
plan.
It
would
still
have
to
go
back.
M
Okay,
you
know
I
think
in
terms
of
this
conversation
as
to
whether
or
not.
M
One
more
question:
one
more
one
more
scenario,
as
I'm
trying
to
think
of
different
ways
to
go.
Can
we
say
that
we
want
this
development
plan
to
come
back
to
us
for
final
approval.
J
Cancer
Council
their
governing
body,
essentially
delegates
control
to
Planning
Commission.
So
if
there
are
cases
at
Planning
Commission
that
governing
body
wants
to
hear
there
is
a
process,
I
think
I'm
not
exactly
sure
what
it
is,
but
there
is
a
way
that
governing
body
can
essentially
take
this
from
Planning
Commission
and
hear
them
yourselves.
J
That
is
yeah
to
call
it
up.
Essentially,
we.
M
J
It
up,
it
would
only
get
heard
once
so.
You
could
pair
it
instead
of
Planning,
Commission
I.
Think,
okay,.
F
O
B
Councilor
Lindale
you've
had
you
have
had
your
hand
up
your
turn.
Thank.
P
Ollie
directed
to
slam
boy
we're
here
to.
P
We
have
a
pent-up
demand
in
this
city
for
this
type
of
housing.
From
what
I've
heard,
all
the
houses
that
are
started,
all
the
ones
that
are
approved
right
now,
they're
under
contract
and.
P
G
P
G
P
G
P
So
thank
you
for
making
my
point
we're
not
being
asked
to
approve
a
development
plan.
That's
not
our
job
tonight
and
I
think
that
it's
really
important
that
we
stay
within
what
we're
being
asked
to
do
and.
P
We
might
have
gotten
a
little
bit
into
the
weeds
tonight
hearing
about
changes
to
the
development
plan,
because
that's
not
what
we're
being
asked
to
approve
I
mean
the
truth
is,
is
that
you
could
take
a
development
plan
once
you.
If
you
have
these
approvals,
you
can
take
a
development
plan
back
to
the
Planning
Commission.
That
doesn't
look
anything
at
all
like
what
you
put
on
that
screen
tonight.
P
P
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
it
clear
that
those
are
the
things
we're
being
asked
to
vote
on
and
they're
very,
very
clear
in
the
code,
what
the
criteria
is
and
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
point
again
mayor.
Thank
you
for
giving
me
the
opportunity.
Thank.
A
E
Not
here
to
to
approve
a
development
plan
which
leads
me
to
wonder
why
one
was
presented
to
us
which
looks
similar
to
the
one
we
had
approved
earlier,
that
is
a
concern
and
I
know:
there's
a
demand
for
homes,
as
councilor
Lindell
said,
but
I
think
there's
also
a
responsibility
of
this
governing
body,
that
a
quality
of
life
into
consideration
is
we're
approving
these
things,
whether
it's
reversal
of
a
denial
or
whether
it's
approving
an
appeal
I
think
that's
part
of
our
responsibility.
E
Miss
lamboy,
sorry,.
E
I
heard
the
I
think
it
was
Mr
Siebert
that
said
that
they
had
changed.
Some
of
the
setbacks
from
10
to
20.
is
that
5
to
10
and
10
to
20
for
just
five
to
ten.
Q
We
bring
that
proposing
to
present
back
to
the
Planning
Commission
to
a
10-yard
10
foot
setback
distance,
then
between
buildings,
building
to
building
on
10
feet
20
feet,
so
we
doubled
everything
in
terms
of.
G
The
council,
member
Rivera,
the
development
plan
project
that
Mr
Siebert
is
proposing,
has
not
been
heard
by
the
Planning
Commission.
So
this
is
new
information
that
was
not
given
to
the
Planning
Commission.
E
G
G
Mayor
council,
member
Rivera,
that
is
concerning
an
issue
because
the
Planning
Commission
then
didn't
have
opportunity
for
input
on
that
plan.
The
awkward
situation
we're
put
in
is
that
there's
these
three
cases
that
can
go
to
the
governing
body,
independent
of
any
development
plan
or
flats,
so
that
can
and
be
considered
according
to
code.
For
that
reason
by
the
governing
body.
Looking
at
that
sort
of
ten
thousand
foot
level
does
this
zoning
is
that
allowed,
but
that
has
not
been
presented.
That
information
has
not
been
presented
to
the
Planning
Commission.
First.
B
G
Mayor
there's
difference
between
practice
and
what
is
required
by
code.
What
is
required
by
or
what
is
permitted
by
code
is
that
this
governing
body
can
act
without
a
development
plan
and
can
act
without
a
preliminary
flat
and
there
have
been
or
will
be
cases
in
the
future.
Where
you
know,
zoning
can
be
considered
independent
of
any
development
plan
larger.
G
Sorry,
Mr
Mayor
this
with
reference
to
other
cases,
I
speak.
M
I'm
actually
I'm
reviewing
the
Planning
Commission
notes.
There
was
actually
interesting
discussion
of
what
they
wanted
to
do
with
this,
and
they
were
discussing
whether
or
not
they
table
whether
or
not
they
can
approve
part
of
it.
There
was
a
recommendation
for
them
to
deny
everything
in
order
for
them
to
appeal
and
it.
If
I'm
reading,
the
commission
notes.
M
That
commissioner
Lawrence
suggested
the
cases
that
our
decisions
made
only
by
the
commission
could
be
denied
providing
the
application
applicant
an
opportunity
for
appeal.
It
seems
to
me
the
Planning
Commission
sent
to
us.
This
way
is
kind.
Is
what
I'm
getting
from
this,
that
the
Planning
Commission
said?
Go.
Do
your
rezone
we're
sending
it
up
to
the
governing
body,
go
ahead
and
appeal,
and
then
it's
going
to
come
back
for
a
final
development
plan.
So
that
is
how
I'm
understanding
the
notes
from
the
planning
or
the
planning
commissions
meeting
minutes
wherever
counselor.
K
M
Point
is
that
I
think
that
they
did
have
this
discussion
about
process
about
process
and
about
what,
unfortunately,
there
is
no
member
and
attorney
fegali
is
the
only
one
that
I
am
seeing
of
staff.
That
was
there
at
the
time.
Oh
director
cloak,
are
you
around
still
Jason?
No,
who
might
be
able
to
provide
some
Claire
Claire?
Just
that's
how
I'm
reading
these
right
here
is
that
this
was
the
the
Planning
Commission
basically
said
we're
popping
this
up
and
then
it'll
come
back
to
us
for
development
plan.
Am
I
understand
that.
J
Correctly,
mayor,
councilor,
I
believe
what
commissioner
Lawrence
was
saying.
There
was
that
if
they
wanted,
if
the
applicant
wanted,
they
could
appeal
the
two
cases
that
were
denied
by
the
Planning
Commission
and
that
appeal
would
probably
come
at
the
same
time
as
the
rezoning
as
the
three
cases
you're
hearing
now.
The
applicant
did
not
decide
to
appeal.
The
applicant
is
going
forward
with
these
cases
and
plans.
M
Yeah
I
also
have
it
says
there
are
different
applications
and
each
has
to
have
decisions
as
part
of
the
judicial
process.
Okay,.
Q
Q
Q
A
development
plan
process,
so
it's
not
unique
I
guess.
O
I
have
a
question
just
because
this
has
been
really
good
discussion.
We
had
I
think
really
important
public
comment,
which
may
not
be
relevant
to
what
we're
actually
voting
on
tonight,
which
is
something
that
I
just
want
to
emphasize.
The
public
comment
as
valuable
as
it
is,
is
not
relevant
to
the
the
items
that
we're
we're
seeing
on
the
agenda
that
we
have
to
consider
this
evening.
But
what
but,
because
there's
this
I
think
very
important
information
that
needs
to
guide
future
decisions
in
regards
to
this
development.
O
I
was
just
wondering
how
much
information
would
the
Planning
Commission
get
say
if
this
is
approved
tonight?
How
much
information
with
the
Planning
Commission
get
from
this
meeting
like?
Would
they
have
access
to
the
public
comment
we've
received
and
could
that
be
made
intentional?
Can
they
have
detailed?
Can
what
we've
discussed
it
might
be
included
in
that
that
their
packet
I,
don't
know
if
that
automatically
occurs
or
if
we
because
I
feel
like
this
might
be,
it
might
be
separate
from
them
actually
spending
their
their
no
okay,
you
could
clarify.
K
In
order
for
them
to
consider
it,
so
it
would
have
to
be
part
of
that
case
and-
and
we
don't
have
a
formal
submission
for
the
development
plan
yet
so
we
would
need
that
from
the
applicants
and
then
the
testimony
would
have
to
be
in
relation
to
that
submission.
K
So
right
now
there's
a
hypothetical
there's
ideas
that
were
discussed
as
as
a
general
idea
of
what
they're
looking
thinking
about,
but
we
don't
have
an
actual
submission
of
a
development
plan.
At
this
point
is
my
understanding,
or
at
least
a
revised
version
that
is
intended
and.
K
B
B
So
even
a
Planning
Commission
proceeding
councilman
would
be
around
thank.
G
I
When
you
say
new
applicant
someone
else
proposing
a
development
on
this
area
and
not
polti
I
did
want
to
clarify
in
the
in
the
past,
so
we
have
been
recommended
by
and
they
were
different
folks
saying
that
we
could,
in
the
that
we
could
actually
hear
development
plans
that
the
council
level
after
the
Planning
Commission.
So
that
has
happened.
I
That's
why
I
I
think
you
had
said
that
it
doesn't
happen,
but
it
has
happened
and
that's
that's
only
that's
usually
when
it's
only
been
like
a
controversial
case
and
the
Planning
Commission
or
the
governing
body
wanted
to
hear
it
again.
But
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
that
has
because.
J
I
I,
don't
know
I
think
at
some
point
not
that
it's
going
to
affect
my
decision
here.
I'm
just
I
just
feel
like
there's
been
a
time
that
there's
been
a
recommendation
for
Planning
Development
plan
at
the
Planning
Commission
level,
and
the
city
council
has
heard
it.
I
Okay,
there
was
another
question:
I
had.
I
I
guess
the
other
thing
is
when
we,
the
fact
that
it's
with
us
tonight
is
not
because
that
was
the
recommendation.
That
was
the
natural
process,
the
the
Planning
Commission
could
have
said.
Well,
we
don't
we're
not
going
to
pass
this
on.
We
could
we
want
it
to
come
back
to
us,
which
they
probably
should
have
done
so
that
the
natural
process,
the
fact
that
it's
here
with
us
is
not
because
they
decided
it's
the
regular,
the
natural,
the
I,
don't
want
to
say
natural
video.
J
That's
mayor
and
council
members,
the
rezonings
master
plan
amendments
and
general
amendments
are
all
by
our
code
recommendations
from
Planning
Commission
to
governing
bodies.
So,
yes,
they
they
would
come
to
you
with
a
recommendation
as
they
did
today.
Okay,.
I
Just
clarifying
because
earlier
we
were
talking
about
it
like
it
was
some
their
decision,
but
it's
really
just
the
process,
but
they
probably
should
have
said
this
should
come
back
to
the
Planning
Commission,
that's
just
an
opinion
they
they
could.
J
Have
postponed
it
for
further
discussion,
but
the
process
is
that
they
make
a
recommendation
of
approval
or
denial
to
governing
body.
They
would
not
hear
it
again
once
they
made
that
recommendation.
D
A
D
Sir,
so
just
to
emphasize
that's
exactly
what
they
did
right
is
that
they
made
a
decision
on
their
recommendation,
which
was
to
deny
and
that's
what
came
to
us
and
our
decision
tonight
is
whether
to
agree
with
them
or
whether
to
reverse
them.
That's
what
we're
being
asked
to
do
and
then
they'd
have
to
go
back.
If,
if,
let's
say
we
well
rather
than
me
saying
it
in
in
either
path,
we
used
to
get
these
great
little
decision
trees
so
help
me
with
the
decision
tree.
So
let's
say
tonight,
we
agree
with
the
Planning
Commission.
J
Mayor
council
members,
so
you
were
you
to
agree
with
the
recommendation.
Yeah.
D
J
You
then
the
rezoning
would
be
denied
the
general
plan,
Amendment
would
be
denied
and
the
master
plan.
Thank
you
master
plan
Amendment
would
be
denied,
in
which
case
the
rezoning
would
not
be
able
to
be
brought
back
for
a
year.
The
other
ones
could
be
brought
back
as
far
as
the
planning
commission's
decision,
they
voted
first
on
these
three
issues
and
they
voted
to
recommend
denial
and
because
they
voted
to
recommend
denial
and
we're
hoping
that
the
governing
body
would
agree
with
them.
J
D
J
D
J
So
if
you
were
to
approve
the
rezoning
general
plan
Amendment
and
the
master
plan
Amendment,
then
they
could
go
back
to
Planning
Commission
with
a
new
or
same
development
plan
for
approval
from
Planning
Commission
I.
Don't
Planning
Commission
would
have
their
own
decision
to
make
on
whatever
development
plan
was
presented
to
them,
which
would
then
be
consistent
with
rezoning
General
plan
and
the
master
plan
Amendment,
because.
D
B
I
B
I'll
give
I'll
give
you
the
former
a
minute
Council
River,
but
I
just
heard
a
piece
of
I'm
still
trying
to
untangle
this
process
issue.
So
one
of
the
things
that
has
been
mentioned
is
that,
in
the
absence
of
a
development
plan
to
look
at,
we
are
not
getting
the
package
fully
baked
in
front
of
us,
but
we
couldn't
get
the
development
plan
in
front
of
us,
because
the
Planning
Commission,
having
recommended
a
denial,
could
not
take
up
the
development
plan.
So
there's
our
own
internal
logic
prevents
us
from
seeing
a
development
plan
tonight.
J
E
J
The
Planning
Commission
made
a
recommendation
on
these
three
cases.
You
cannot
remand
the
development
plan
back
to
them
because
there's
not
currently
a
development
plan
case
right.
Are
you
talking
about
remaining
these
three
cases.
E
E
I
think
it
was
for
the
Planning
Commission
I
think
they
they
had
several
discussions
about
the
amount
of
space
in
between
residences
and
the
setbacks
that
I
brought
up
earlier.
J
They
are
not
they're
not
binding
on
this,
and
so
they
are
not
they're,
not
part
of
the
master
plan.
Amendment.
J
K
It
sounds
like
it,
it
doesn't
sound
like
it
would
make
sense
to
remember.
For
that
reason,
it
seems
like
there
could
be
a
reason
to
remand
something.
It
sounds
like
this
information
was
being
discussed
in
relation
to
the
development.
D
K
I
have
not
heard
the
minutes
from
Planning
Commission,
just
as
a
as
a
caveat
but
I'm
basing
that
based
on
what
I'm
hearing
here.
K
So
if
there's
something
that's
relevant
to
one
of
the
elements
for
these
cases,
so
we
feel
like
the
Planning
Commission
didn't
have,
and
that
might
be
a
good
reason
to
remand
it
I'm
hearing,
IT
staff
doesn't
think
that's
where
what
playing
commission
was
considering
for
these
cases
in
particular.
So.
E
They
had
discussion
about
setbacks.
We've
had
discussion
about
setbacks,
yet
there's
no
development
plan,
yet
we're
all
talking
about
a
development
plan
with
related
to
this
project.
So
how
does
that
happen?
How
is
it
allowed,
in
both
cases,
both
Planning
Commission
and
here
at
the
governing
body,
but.
J
Trying
to
mention
prepared
all
all
five
cases
at
once,
and
so
it
was
part
of
the
greater
discussion
in
that
case
here,
you're
only
hearing
the
three
cases
that
are
not
involving
the
development
plan,
and
so
it
is
not
relevant
it
yeah
I
do
Mr
Mayor
have
a
possibilities
suggestion
from
the
applicant,
which
is
if
the
council
wants
them
to
go
back
to
to
the
Planning
Commission
for
the
development
plan.
K
B
I'm,
not
sure
well,
I
think
we're
all
trying
to
find
a
way
to
bundle
it.
So
we
have
a
big
picture
at
the
same
time:
I'm
I,
my
eyebrows
go
up
whenever
you
say
supposed
to
or
normal
or
usual,
because
I'm
not
sure
that
always
qualifies
but
I.
Your
point,
your
bigger
point,
is
that
the
conversation
has
circled
around.
How
do
we
get
our
hands
on
the
whole
package
rather
than
a
part
of
the
package
I'm
going
to
ask
councilor
mayor
worth
and
then
I'm
going
to
go
to
you,
sir.
D
Yeah
so
I'm
trouble
by
the
use
of
the
way
it's
supposed
to
happen,
because
I
think
we've
heard
over
and
over
again
that
there
at
there
again
there
isn't
a
way
it
was
supposed
to
happen,
but
I
I
think
it
would.
It
might
be
useful
to
go
back
to
our
packet
and
the
staff
memo
I
think,
is
what
it's
the
first
one
I'm
scared
to
go
to.
It's
the
staff
report
and
look
again
at
what's
in
front
of
us
and
what's
in
front
of
us
again.
D
Is
the
master
plan
Amendment
the
general
plan
Amendment
and
the
rezoning
to
r10?
And
then,
if
you
go
down
again
we're
in
our
quasi-judicial
mode,
we're
supposed
to
be
applying
the
facts
to
the
law?
And
it
says
here
on
number
four
page:
four
of
nine.
It
says
general
planned,
Amendment
approval
criteria
and
then
it
lists
how
we
go
about
doing
that.
A
D
N
D
Is
in
front
of
us
and
we
have
these
criteria
right,
we
have
these
if,
if
it
fits
into
these
boxes,
if
we
can
check
these
boxes,
then
we
should
approve
it.
If
it
doesn't,
then
we
should
agree
with
the
Planning
Commission,
so
I
think
we're
getting
we're
getting
all
off
track
in
areas,
but
I
think
you
had.
M
Here's
here's
where
I
think
we're
part
of
running
into
the
problem
and
I
know
that
that
when
Planning
Commission
did
hear
this
case,
they
also
ran
into
the
issue
of
the
code.
One
of
the
challenges
we're
running
into
is
that
the
rezone
has
to
do
with
an
r10
and
that
r10
is
what
allows
different
developmental
designs,
and
this
is
Wilds
on
the
development
plan.
I
think
really
becomes
pertinent
here
and
why
the
fact
that
the
Planning
Commission,
that
there
is
different
information,
really
we're
looking
at
what
six
dwelling
units
per
acre.
M
But
we
can't
Zone
to
R6
we're
really
not
talking
about
an
R6
rezone,
we're
talking
about
r10
and
the
reason
that
we're
looking
at
r10
is
because
it
has
to
do
with
the
planning
commission's
ability
to
allow
these
different
setbacks
that
has
to
do
with
the
design.
So
I
I
think
that
the
remand
back
to
Planning
Commission
makes
sense
with
this
new
information,
because
it
is
the
zoning
request
that
is
occurring
because
of
hitting
the
r10
does
start
to
change
what
you
can
do
with
the
development
plan.
M
D
We
think
we
can
reverse
it,
and
then
it
goes
back
to
them
anyway,
to
work
out
all
the
details
of
what
needs
to
happen.
We
don't
have
to
remand
because
it's
a
it's
a
they
didn't
make
a
decision.
They
made
a
recommendation
which
we
have
the
power
to
either
go
with
or
overturn,
and
then
it
goes
back
to
them
anyway
to
work
out.
The
details
based
on
whatever
the
zoning
is
that
we
have
decided
is
the
correct
thing.
B
S
At
one
Mr,
Mayor
counselors
again
we'd
be
happy
to
do
that.
Let
me
let
me
my
understanding
to
put
the
facts
in
there,
for
you
guys
is
you're,
not
overturning
anything.
It's
all
right.
It's
a
recommendation
for
denial
from
Planning
Commission.
You
either
accept
or
and
agree
with
their
the
denial
and
move
forward,
and
if
so,
I
can
share
with
you.
We
cannot
wait
a
year
and
we
would.
This
would
walk
completely,
would
have
to
walk
away
from
this.
We
would
not
develop
this,
so
we
cannot
wait
a
year
for
that.
S
Wait
a
year
we
would
fall
out
of
agreement
and
we
don't
even
know
if,
if
we
would
be
invited
back,
the
the
facts
before
you
are
is
regardless.
If
you
have
a
site
plan,
if
it's
my
understanding
is,
you
can
have
the
tires
site
plan
and
they
eat
so
much
detail
that
that
the
Planning
Commission
actually
approves
in
a
preliminary
plan.
S
It
doesn't
matter
it
can
change
as
soon
as
you
approve
the
zoning.
It's
not
the
the
cycling
gives
you
some
guidance,
but
it's
not
binding.
We've
heard
that
from
the
attorney
that
it's
not
binding
as
soon
as
you
make
the
zoning
change,
I
could
go
back
the
next
day
to
Planning
Commission,
amend
that
preliminary
site
plan
totally
different,
and
if
paying
commission
approves
it,
they
have
the
authority
to
do
that
if
it's
within
the
zoning
that
you
just
approved.
S
So,
regardless
of
the
amount
of
detail
that
you
have
tonight,
if
you
postpone
this,
we
in
in
the
question
is,
is
then
we
give
this
amount
of
detail
back
to
the
Planning
Commission,
which
they're
already
going
to
have?
If
you
approve
this
they're
already
going
to
have
that
ability
to
do
that
denier,
a
site
plan
because
that's
the
authority
they
have
so
so
it
it.
What
I'm
saying
is
is
that
you,
the
the
site
plan,
really
has
no
bearing
it
really
doesn't
because
the
next
day
we
could
change
it.
S
100
percent,
that's
within
our
legal
right
to
do
that,
and
it's
within
the
legal
right
of
Planning
Commission
to
change.
That
is
what
I
heard
from
from
the
attorneys.
K
N
L
J
Mayor
counselor,
the
development
plan
that
was
mentioned
today
has
not
been
approved
and
it
you
are
not
voting
on
it.
So
that
is
not
binding.
The
the
zoning
would
be
finding
the
master
plan.
Amendment
we'll
be
binding.
The
general
plan
Amendment
would
be
binding
unless
it
came
back
to
governing
body
to
be
changed,
but
the
development
plan
as
proposed
is,
is
not
binding
and
had
it
been
approved
by
Planning
Commission,
it
would
be
binding
for
now
we'll
say
until
it
must
have
expired
or
was
amended
by
Planning
Commission.
Thank
you.
L
L
Reading
the
notes
in
that
the
Planning
Commission
had
in
all
their
comments.
There
was
lots
of
concerns
that
they
had
with
the
plan
around
density
and
given
that
that
was
what
the
package
that
was
in
front
of
them,
and
it's
not
the
package,
that's
in
front
of
us
we're
seeing
half
the
package,
and
so
with
that
being
said,
I'm
going
to
make
a
motion
to,
of
course,
we're
not
a
senator.
L
B
D
So
just
I
just
want
to
clarify
something
that
the
City
attorney
said.
It
would
only
come
back
to
us
if
it
was
on
appeal.
So
what
we're
being
asked
to
do
tonight
is
either
go
with
the
the
recommendation
by
the
Planning
Commission
to
deny
these
three
things
or
reverse
and
and
approve
them,
and
then
it
would
go
back
and
the
development
plan
would
be
worked
out.
J
Mayor
council
members-
yes
I,
think
you
saying
so
that,
yes,
the
Planning
Commission
made
recommendations
so
you're
not
you're,
not
necessarily
I.
Forget
the
word
that.
J
L
J
Wouldn't
be
reversing
you
would
be
agreeing
or
not
agreeing
with
them
and
approving
or
denying
the
cases
in
front
of
you
and
the
development
plan.
Correct
would
go
to
Planning
Commission
for
a
decision
by
Planning
Commission.
It
would
not
come
to
the
governing
body
again
unless,
unless
they
were
called
up
by
governing
body
for
the
first
hearing
or
unless
they
were
in
appeal
to
the
governing
body
correct,
but.
D
K
Whoever
accounts,
if
you
want
to
look
at
the
process,
it's
in
14-2.2
sections,
C
and
D,
it
has
not
happened
in
the
last
four
years.
I
think
Dan
from
the
Planning
Commission
has
mentioned
that
he
is
aware
of
one
other
instance
in
which
it
has
occurred.
So
there
is
an
alternative
procedure
which
is
definitely
not
typical.
It
is
possible.
S
S
You
mentioned
density,
one
of
the
things
that
my
understanding
is
is
that
you
could
have
you
could
sign
a
different
Destiny.
We're
willing
to
accept
R7
R7
allows
us
to
do
a
site
development
plan,
there's
only
one
bu
more
than
what
it's
allowed
today.
So,
if
you're
concerned
about
density,
don't
approve
our
take
approve,
our
seven
I
can
still
do
a
site
plan.
I
can
still
do
attached.
S
E
J
Mayor
council
members,
you
can
approve
10
or
under
10,
essentially
for
density.
You
cannot
improve
more,
and
the
general
plan
amendment
that
was
proposed
is
medium
density,
which
is
7
to
12
dwelling
units,
so
that
would
be
still
within
what
was
recommended
for
that
right.
E
And
then,
if,
for
some
reason,
with
all
the
discussion
going
on
this,
we
upheld
the
recommendation
of
the
Planning
Commission,
then
the
applicant
would
have
to
wait
a
year
in
order
to
do
anything
else.
For.
J
The
rezoning
that
is
correct
for
the
the
other
two,
which
wouldn't
make
sense
to
come
back
without
the
rezoning,
there's
not
that
time
period
to
wait.
I
That's
why
I
just
I'm
confused
about
that,
because
they
do
connect
to
each
other
they're,
not
separate,
we're
not
delegating.
These
are
two
things
that
are
related
and
those
decisions
were
made
based
on
the
density
and
and
rezoning.
So
what
the
third
option
I
mean?
We
don't
want
them
to
not
have
the
rezoning
option
and
have
that
stripped
for
the
next
year.
I.
Don't
think
any
of
us
want
that,
but
I
think
it's
again.
The
process
to
see
have
have
the
Planning
Commission
be
able
to
see
it
all
together,
because
it's
related
whether.
I
J
Mayor
council
members,
you
you
can
vote
to
approve
those
three
cases
or
some
of
the
three
cases
you
can
vote
to
deny
them
or
you
could
vote
to
postpone
them
so
that
the
development
plan
could
go
back.
A
new
development
plan.
A
new
case
would
go
to
Planning
Commission
with
for
the
same
for
the
same
property,
and
then
once
that
was
voted
on
assuming
there
was
an
approval,
they
could
come
back
to
you
or
these
three
cases.
J
I
G
It's
like
to
point
out
just
a
couple
of
things,
because
there's
been
much
to
do
about
the
timing
and
the
deal
that
the
applicant
has
and
so
on
you
know.
Certainly
that's
not
the
governing
body
is
concerned,
but
the
timeline
for
a
preliminary
development
plan
in
terms
of
a
review
and
then
coming
back
after
a
postponement
from
the
governing
body
to
with
this
new
information
having
been
acted
on
by
the
Planning
Commission
would
be
approximately
six
to
eight
weeks
through
the
well,
including
the
Inn
and
probably
closer
to
eight
weeks.
G
I
Right,
yeah:
well,
our
decision
shouldn't
be
based
on
the
purchase
sales
agreement.
I
guess
my
understanding
is
that
those
can
be
modified.
B
That's
not
really
our
the
sense
of
this
conversation
so
far,
we're
not
yet
at
emotion,
I'm,
just
trying
to
summarize
what
I've
been
hearing
at
the
same
time,
I
think
there
is
a
for
some
people,
at
least
a
feeling
that
the
pieces
that
you
that
often
are
not
always
but
sometimes
are
linked
together,
provide
a
level
of
comfort
that
is
not
present
with
the
current
package.
B
So
whether
I,
don't
I,
think
that
predicate
is
we
don't
want
to
kill
this
project
for
a
year
or
for
longer
I,
don't
think
that's
anybody's
desire,
I
do
think.
We
have
a
in
front
of
us
a
vote
if
we
want
to
take
it
to
approve
the
zoning.
We
could
also
apparently
use
a
infrequently
used
process
to
bring
the
development
plan
in
front
of
us.
If
that
has
a
level
of
concern
that
would
Merit
bringing
it
to
our
attention
with,
with
or
without
the
the
planning
commission's
first.
B
Having
had
a
bite
at
it,
but
it
is
technically
correct
that
the
vote
that
is
in
front
of
us
is
about
the
recommendation
of
the
Planning
Commission.
There
may
be,
as
councilwoman
was
thinking
through
a
different
in
the
applicant
volunteered,
a
different
process
that
would
not
penalize
the
project,
but
let
the
Pieces
perhaps
catch
up
to
each
other
I'm
open
to
yep
mayor,
yes
and
I.
D
Do
we
agree?
Do
we
do
have?
They
met
the
criteria
for
a
zoning
change,
a
general
plan
Amendment
and
a
master
plan
Amendment.
Those
three
things
are
our
purview.
That
is
those
are
things
that
we
have
to
decide
at
this
level,
but
we
have
delegated
the
other
stuff,
and
we
have
to
trust
that
the
Planning
Commission
and
and
through
the
process
that
we've
set
up
there
through
the
en
and
having
the
the
developer,
come
back
to
them
with,
knowing
that
they
can
do
these
things
that
they're
asking
for
we'll
address
the
situation.
D
B
O
Would
then
the
development
plan
would
be
would
be
reviewed
by
the
Planning
Commission
dependent
on
approval
of
these
three
items
at
a
later
date.
So
it's
not
fact.
The
development
plan
is
not
coming
back
to
like
the
development
plan
is
not
being
heard.
The
development
plan
would
be
approved
if
that
the
planning
commission's
Choice
and
then,
but
it
would
be
dependent
on
these
three
items
that
we
would
revisit
at
a
later
date,
so
we're
still
giving
the
Planning
Commission
that
authority
to
make
the
decision
which
I
believe
they
should
be
making.
O
D
G
A
J
Mayor
council
members,
if,
if
these
cases
are
not
decided
tonight,
it
would
be
a
contingent
development
plan
based
on
the
rezoning
and
general
plan,
Amendment
and
National
Amendment
happening
to
make
that
development
plan
allowable
by
zoning.
So
what
I.
O
So
it's
not,
but
we're
not
approving
a
development
plan,
because
I
keep
hearing
that
like
we're
getting
the
development
time
is
going
to
come
to
us.
It
will
not
what
a
possible
us
postponing
these
three
items
today
would
allow
the
developer
to
present
a
development
plan
to
the
Planning
Commission
for
voting
contingent
on
these
three
items
being
approved
at
a
later
date
and
I
feel
like
that
is
appropriate
in
the
sense
that
it
provides
everyone.
The
information
needed
to
understand.
D
Problem,
yeah
and
I
and
I
agree
with
that,
except
that
you
could
also
approve
these
three
things
tonight
and
send
it
back
to
them,
and
with
these
with
that
information,
they'll
do
redo
the
development
plan
and
the
commission,
the
Planning
Commission,
will
approve
it.
So
if
there's
again,
I
think
this
is
where
we
we
started.
The
night
right
is
there's
not
one
way
it
has
to
happen.
It
can
happen
either
way.
J
Yes,
mayor,
council
members,
that's
correct,
I,
believe
you're,
saying
the
same
thing:
it's
just
in
commission,
council,
member
Chavez's
version.
The
development
plan
at
the
Planning
Commission
level
would
happen
first
and
then
you,
this
governing
body,
would
hear
these
cases
again
and
in
the
council
Romero
Worth's
version.
M
So
my
my
concern
with
rezoning
tonight
again
has
to
do
with
this
almost
like
the
ledge
that
we
fall
off
with
our
10.
and-
and
that
is
my
again.
If
we
were
you
know,
I
I
know
that
the
applicant
was
like
fine,
give
us
R7,
but
but
again,
if,
if
r10
is
going
to
be
in
the
end
more
advantageous,
if
we
are
really
looking
at
if
you're
looking
at
some
changes,
I
I
think
that
that
is
worthwhile.
M
M
You
know,
that's
I,
think
that
that's
a
really
important
conversation.
It
is
something
that
we
have
delegated
to
Planning
Commission,
so
I,
honestly
I
could
do
a
general
plan
Amendment
and
be
like
sure.
Let's
go
ahead
with
you
know
residential.
What
is
it
medium,
residential
density,
residential,
medium
density,
because
that
does
not
necessarily
attach
us
to
that.
R10
click.
It's
almost
like
the
fiscal
clips
that
you
fall
off
of
now.
M
M
Approving
these
three
cases
am
I
am
I
understanding
that
correct.
So
we
will
not
get
a
new
recommendation
from
the
Planning
Commission
on
the
rezone,
the
general
plan
Amendment
or
the
master
plan
Amendment.
Our
signal
from
them
essentially
would
be
hey.
We
do
like
this
development
plan.
If
you
go
ahead
and
do
this,
we
think
that
this
is
a
you
know,
beneficial
thing
for
this
community.
G
Mayor
council,
member
Cassidy
is
correct
that
they
will
not
be
acting
on
the
general
plan.
Amendment
does
the
rezoning
and
the
master
plan
Amendment.
They
will
only
be
considering
development
plan
if
it's
brought
before
them.
B
M
I
was
just
saying
that,
if
that
is
something
that
is
done,
I
think
that
that
kind
of
Our
intention
would
have
to
be
made
very
clear
to
Planning
Commission
that
this
is
that
kind
of
what
that
would
signal
to
us
in
terms
of
a
development
plan.
It
does
start
to
get
really
complicated
there,
because
that's
we're
not
going
to
get
a
new
recommendation
from
them
and
and
again
I
would
I,
wouldn't
be
so
concerned.
M
D
So
I
think
at
the
beginning
of
the
night
we
heard
that
the
biggest
reason
for
this
rezoning
from
R6
to
r10
was
the
model
of
housing
that
polti
wants
to
do
is
duplex
attached
units.
Correct,
did
I,
say
that
correctly
and
that
can't
be
done
with
R6,
but
I
think
you
all
indicated
that
it
could
be
done
so
in
terms
of
an
r10
cliff,
you
could
do
it
with
R8
or
R7
whatever
okay,
so
maybe
there's
not
an
R8.
So
that's
the
other
piece.
I
guess
is
that.
M
M
B
M
Please
Heather,
if
you
could
please.
G
Mayor
at
councilman
overcast
with
the
R7
I'm,
not
certain
what
the
applicant
is
referred
because
we
don't
have
a
development
plan,
so
they
characterize
that
they
could
do
it
at
R7.
But
r10
is
what
allows
for
setbacks
and
everything
to
be
determined
by
the
development
plan.
R7
I,
don't
believe.
D
So
this
idea
that
we
have
to
have
a
development
plan
before
we
can
approve
zoning
or
an
amend
a
plan,
a
general
plan
Amendment
or
a
master
plan.
Amendment
seems
to
me
also
just
in
terms
of
how
we
go
forward
with
these
kinds
of
things
in
terms
of
your
costs
as
a
developer.
You're,
not
gonna,
you're,
not
gonna,
come
forward
with
something
that
you
don't
know
what
conditions
apply
to
you,
what
zoning
you're
dealing
with?
D
D
I
guess
the
developer.
Yes,.
Q
Well,
I
I
think
we're
at
an
impasse
here
and
I,
don't
see
how
the
votes
are
coming
down
but
and
an
option
which
counselor
Chavez
brought
up.
Is
you
just
simply
postpone
this?
We
go
back
to
the
Planning
Commission
and
we
get
a
preliminary
development
plan.
Preliminary
plant
proved
and
then
we
come
back
to
the
city
council
and
say:
okay,
the
Planning
Commission
has
assuming
they
were
going
to
prove
it,
and
then
you
could
act
on
this
particular
zoning
right
and
is
that
is
that
out
of
legally
I?
Don't
think
so?
No,
it's.
B
Been
offered
as
an
option
I
think
it's
one
of
the
things
that
has
been
discussed,
I
think
councilor
mayor
worth.
The
point
was
slightly
different,
which
was
regardless
of
your
ability
to
count
votes.
She
was
asking
procedurally
as
a
developer.
Doesn't
it
help
you
to
know
what
the
zoning
is
before
you
bring
forward
a
development
plan
without
knowing
what
the
underlying
zoning
code
would
be?
Certainly,.
Q
B
S
Mr
Mayor
counselors-
absolutely
that
is
that
is
the
that's
the
Crux
to
why
we
didn't
go
back
to
Planning
Commission.
That's
why
we
waited
for
South,
Meadows
or
cajada
Oro
to
understand
what
this
body
would
do
and
why
we
did
not
bring
it
back,
because
if
we
felt
like
it
didn't
improve
that,
why
would
you
approve
anything
out
what
we
wanted
to
plan
on
on
it?
So
absolutely.
O
A
question
I'm
confused
I
thought
that
what
we
approved
with
kahado
Oro
was
contingent
on
rezoning
right
like
it
was.
We
accepted
a
recommendation
from
the
Planning
Commission
contingent
on
the
rezoning,
so
if
they
would
take
the
development
to
the
Planning
Commission
presenting
the
zoning,
they
need
to
develop
a
plan
that
will
be
approved
at
the
Planning
Commission.
It
would
be
contingent
on
the
rezoning
that
we
would
approve
for
that
plan.
Correct.
O
The
reason
why
I
keep
going
back
to
the
postponing
is
because
it
is
clear
that
we
are
divided,
which
puts
you
the
developer
at
a
risk
of
having
to
wait
a
year
and
I.
Think
that's
pretty.
It's
evident
at
this
point
that
that's
the
case,
so
I
keep
presenting
this
option
and
just
with
clarifying.
There
are
members
on
this
board
that
feel
like.
They
need
more
information.
They
need
process
and
some
consistency
between
what
is
presented
at
the
Planning
Commission
and
the
governing
body.
I'm
actually
undecided
about
it.
O
But
as
a
member
here
in
wanting
to
be
supportive
to
the
developer.
I
also
see
that
my
colleague,
some
of
my
colleagues
need
more
information.
I,
wouldn't
mind
having
more
information,
so
I
feel
like
that
is
the
most
appropriate
Avenue
at
this
point
or
we
it
may
be
denied,
which
I
think
is
going
to
create
a
a
difficult
situation.
O
So
I
would
ask
that
we
as
a
board
kind
of
be
or
acknowledge
that
that's
the
place
that
we're
at
right
now
and
perhaps
we're
at
a
are
we
at
a
place
that
we
could
no
not
yet.
B
Still
have
we
have
to
wait
for
final
last
and
final
questions
before
we
close
the
part
of
the
hearing,
that
is
the
public
hearing
part.
So
if
there
are
other,
this
is
a
chance
for
other
questions
or
comments
to
come
forward
from
the
governing
body.
If
there
are
none,
then
we
are
at
a
point
where
we
would
entertain
a
motion
in
a
second
kelser
Garcia.
K
Whatever
counselors
is
the
Intel,
would
it
be
until.
M
B
J
B
F
Item
c
d
and
e,
just
so
that
it's
very
clear
on
my
end:
counselor
cassette:
yes,
counselor,
Chavez,
counselor,
Michael,
Garcia,
counselor,
Lindell,
councilor
Rivera,
yes,
councilman
worth
councilwomania
real,
yes,
mayor,
Weber,
yes,
motion
has
been
approved.
B
B
Madam
clerk
I
believe
that
completes
the
agenda
for
tonight.
In
that
case,
at
approximately
11
10
were
adjourned.