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B
C
A
B
C
All
right
mayor,
Weber,
president
counselor
Casa
here
councilor
Chavez,
is
excused
councilor
Lee
Garcia
president
councilor
Michael
Garcia,
president
counselor
Lindell
here
I'm,
sorry,
Rivera.
A
His
presence
is
kind
of
having
a
communication
problem.
Thank
you.
Can
you
there's
some
changes
to
the
agenda
that
I
believe
you're
going
to
walk
us
through
Madam
Clerk.
A
You're
removing
from
the
agenda
tonight
it
is
action,
item
C,
D
and
E
and
then.
B
We're
also
removing
appointments
which
are
item
21A
and
21
B.
B
A
Of
consent,
given
it
only
passed
one
committee
counselor
Garcia
that
on
the
consent
agenda,
that
item
will
be
removed
from
consent
for
discussion.
A
A
A
So
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye
opposed
motion
carries
thank
you,
and
now
we
go
to
the
other
part
of
the
consent
agenda.
There
are
some
items
that
have
been
pulled
from
consent,
Madam,
Clerk.
B
Yes,
mayor
items
are
items
e,
H
and
R
and
then,
as
noted
item
M
will
be
moved
to
the
discussion.
Okay
can
I
get
a
motion
to
approve
the
question.
Sorry,
but
e
was
taken
off
the
oh,
but.
D
B
B
Not
okay,
sorry
incentive
versus
got
it.
Can
I
get
a
motion
to
approve
the
consent
agenda
as
amended.
Is
there
a
second
second?
Thank
you
very
much.
Madame
Kirk.
Can
you
call
the
roll.
B
B
B
Sorry
I
just
cut
this,
but
didn't
you
have
an
amendment
to
r
that
you
wanted
there
R
has
been
pulled,
has
been
pulled
up.
Yes,
I
missed
that.
Thank
you.
Yes,
councilman,
yes
and
councilwomania.
Rail
I'll
take
a
moment
to
work
through
technical
issues.
Okay,
so
that
motion
carries
mayor
Weber,
you
need
to
vote
I
vote
Yes.
B
We
move
then
to
the
burst
of
presentations
on
the
agenda,
starting
with.
E
B
By
matrix,
Consulting
director,
Tara
Ochoa,
as
well
as
Deputy
Chief
of
Police,
Ben,
Valdez
I,
believe,
is
coming
for
this
presentation
and
it
looks
like
Chief.
Joy
is
also
coming.
A
A
I,
just
don't
see
excellent.
Thank
you
to
the
council
for
hearing
this
item
tonight
as.
A
A
But
just
as
many
departments
around
the
country
are
facing
shortages,
we
are
as
well
and
the
detail
with
which
they
Analyze
That
is
perhaps
useful
for
the
public
to
understand
for
your
for
the
council
to
understand,
and
certainly
it's
affirming
to
the
police
department.
In
terms
of
what
we've
seen,
we've
adopted
several
strategies
since
forming
the
community
health
and
safety
department
appointing
Chief
joy,
and
these
really
have
to
do
with
one
making
the
department,
the
best
department
in
the
state
to
work
for
and
with
your
help,
we've
been
able
to
really
invest
in.
B
The
technologies
that
make
for
greater
efficiencies,
our
body,
cam
systems,
are
records,
Management
systems
and
our
police
cars,
which
are
offices
for
our
officers,
but
more
than
that
I
think
it's
the
morale
of
the
department
that
will
attract
most
new
officers
and
administrative
staff
and
we're
seeing
that
and
I'd
like
to
turn
it
over
to
Chief
joy,
to
just
frame
that
a
little
bit
and
how
this
study
give
you
a
high
level
of
what
we're.
What
we're
seeing
in
this
study
before
we.
G
A
B
Good
there
we
are
okay,
so
I'm
gonna
try
to
keep
this
pretty
high
level
to
begin
with,
and
so
that
we're
available
to
answer
questions
as
you
have
them
also
out.
B
A
And
qualify
Staffing
and
Workforce
assessments
in
relation
to
how
a
department
serves
its
City
in
its
community
and
something
that
I've
heard
over
the
years
and
I'm
sure
many
of
you
have
as
well
is
kind
of
the
well.
A
A
And
so
what
we've
done
with
reaching
out
to
to
Matrix
is
to
really
go
through
the
data
and
parse
out
and
quantify
not
just
the
numbers
of
population
because,
as
we
know,
the
population
of
Santa
Fe
changes
from
daytime
to
night
time
and
and
holidays
and
all
the
fun
stuff,
but
also
the
services
that
our
department
renders
to
the
community
in
comparison
to
other
communities
and
other
Departments
of
similar
size.
And
what
you'll
see
if
you
in
in
the
study
there
is,
is
Santa
Fe
in
comparison
to
other
departments
and
communities
of
similar
size.
A
There's
also
another
benefit.
That
I
was
happy
to
see
with
the
study
when
I
was
appointed.
In
fact,
December
2021
I
met
with
my
staff,
and
we
tried
to
do
basically
a
top-down
internal,
just
a
very
honest
opinion
of
what
do
we
think
we
do
pretty
well,
where
do
we
make
it?
Where
can
we
make
improvements?
A
Where
do
we
need
to
make
improvements,
and
how
do
we
make
those
improvements
with
the
resources
that
we
have
in
front
of
us,
and
so
we
started
doing
those
making
those
changes
as
quickly
as
we
were
were
reasonably
able
to,
and
it
was
nice
to
see
that
some
of
the
recommendations
that
Matrix
have
come
back
with
are
things
that
we've
already
been
working
on
and
put
into
place,
but
with
that
I
will
pass
the
mic
over
to
the
quotes
from
Matrix.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
Chief.
So
Mr
Cho
is
this.
Now
going
to
the
folks
who
are
with
us
via
Zoom
Mr
Mayor,
that's
correct.
They
should
be
able
to
give
their
presentation
via
Zoom.
H
And
we're
here
with
additional
staff
from
PD
to
answer
questions.
H
We're
not
getting
sound
at
the
moment
we
have.
Can
you
check
my
sound
as
well?
Oh
you're,
back
good.
That
works.
You
are.
You
are
loud
and
clear
how
about
our
Matrix
friends,
it's
showing
that
I
have
sound.
You
do
now,
sir.
Thank
you.
Okay,
Can
can?
Whoever
is
controlling
the
zoom,
enabled
screen
sharing
so
that
I
can
bring
up
a
PowerPoint
presentation,
so
you
should
be
allowed
just
right.
Now
there
we
go.
I
Mr
Mayor
and
members
of
the
council,
I'm
Richard
Brady
I
am
the
President
of
Matrix
Consulting
Group
and
I
lead
our
Public
Safety
practice.
Thank.
I
You've
got
a
busy
agenda.
We've
put
together
a
presentation.
I
H
That
you
may
have
just
very
quickly
a
little
bit
about
us
so
that
you
know
something
about
the
firm
that
has
conducted
this
work
for
you.
We've
been
in
existence
for
20
years
now,
while
we
provide
a
wide
range
of
services
to
local
government
clients,
and
we
only
work
for
local
government
law
enforcement
is
by
far
our
largest
service
area.
We.
I
Have
worked
with
over
400
law
enforcement
agencies
across
the
country
in
Canada,
including
several
in
New
Mexico,
Albuquerque
and
Rio
Rancho,
the
name
just
a
couple.
Our
team
was
very
experienced
as
the
team
that
conducted
all
of
those
400
studies
and
we
are
a
combination
of
career
public
safety,
analysts
and
people
who
used
to
have
careers
as
Public
Safety
managers
who
are
now
full-time
career,
public
safety,
analysts
I
think.
As
you
look
at
our
report
and
as
we
will
present
in
a
few
minutes,
our
approach
is
fact-face.
I.
H
H
We
were
asked
to
do
it
simply
put
that
we
were
asked
to
look
at
the
current
law
enforcement
Services
provided
by
the
city,
and
the
word
current
is
a
little
special.
These
days.
M
So
we
looked
at
workload.
I
N
And
to
develop
recommendations
based
on
our
analysis
for
current
Staffing
as
well
as
future
Staffing
and
we'll
explain
that
as
we
go
through
this
presentation,
so
I'm
going
to
have
my
team
participate
in
this
based
on
where
they
took
the
and
I'm
going
to
start
with
Ian
Brady,
who
took
the
lead
in
the
various
Field
Services
functions
yeah.
N
So
in
examining
the
staffing
needs
for
patrol
officers,
that
is
those
going
out.
Taking
calls
being
proactive,
it's
not
enough
for
official
officers
just
to
be
corresponders
if
all
of
their
time
is
spent,
responding
to
calls
going
from
home,
call
they're,
not
providing
a
high
level
of
service
and
that
they're
not
able
to
be
proactive.
N
They're
not
able
to
engage
with
the
community
not
able
to
self-initiate
activity
like
traffic
stops,
and
so
because
of
that
our
analysis
focuses
on
measuring
using
the
Department's,
computer-aid
and
dispatch
data
from
2019
to
measure
the
community
generated
culture
service
that
they
respond
to.
So
analysis
is
a
bit
more
focused
in
terms
of
different
ways
of
showing
Department's
activity
that
you
may
have
seen
over
the
years,
but
we're
really
just
looking
at
does
do.
Patrol
officers
have
the
capacity
to
handle
the
community
generated
workload
in
order
to.
G
N
They're
highly
active
in
terms
of
connecting
traffic
stops
area
checks,
other
types
of
self-initiated
activity,
Community
engagement
activity
as
well
in
in
examining
that
the
goal
for
high
level
service
to
be
provided
the
minimum
is
at
least
40
per
activity
on
an
overall
basis.
So
that's
the
time
that
they
have
out
of
out
of
their
time
available
on
duty
to
be
able
to
be
proactive.
N
Currently,
the
police
department
is
well
below
that,
in
that
only
33
of
overall
time
is
available
to
be
proactive,
so
on
an
overall
level
that
that's
sufficient.
But
as
you
look
at
that,
a
bit
more
detailed
during
the
daytime
hours,
when
you
really
want
to
want
officers
to
have
the
time
to
build,
be
proactive,
engage
with
the
community.
It's.
H
O
So
in
examining
the
cause
of
this,
our
analysis
shows
that
to
be
able
to
reach
40,
you
need
to
be
able
to
have
75
positions
budgeted.
However,
currently
there's
an
unusually
high
number
of
vacancies
and
that
results
in
being
well
below
that
number
well
below
what
the
rate
of
turnover
would
expect
and
just
be.
The
number
of
positions
filled
to
be,
and
that
translates
to
proactive
time
being
much
lower
than
40
percent.
O
If
there
was
a
normal
level
of
vacancies
being
filled,
productive
time
would
be
at
at
least
40
percent
and
that's
really
critical,
because
with
83
positions
budgeted
and
that
being
higher
than
the
number
needed
to
achieve
40
with
normal
turnover.
O
It
shows
that
that
really
is
the
critical
issue
here
that
the
vacancies
need
to
be
filled
and
that
that
needs
to
be
a
significant
priority
as
it
is
currently,
but
that
if
more
positions
were
allocated
to
patrol
in
terms
of
budget
positions,
it
wouldn't
necessarily
address
the
problem,
because
they
would
still
need
to
be
filled
and
so
on
Patrol
we
saved
it
while
current
field
Staffing
is
not
adequate
and
it
results
in
less
than
the
minimum
productive
time.
Current
budgeted
Staffing
is
adequate,
however,
as
Santa
Fe
continues
to
grow.
O
Is
this
something
that
needs
to
be
augmented
in
the
future
as
workload
continues
to
increase
and
we'll
go
into
that
in
a
little
bit?
So
while
current
budgeted
Staffing
is
adequate
now
that
will
lead
to
increase
in
the
future,
so
in
terms
of
options
for
making
the
best
use
of
current
resources
deployment.
That
is
how
obstacles
are
scheduled
deployed
geographically,
isn't
able
to
provide
any
real
solutions
in
terms
of
addressing
the
problem.
However,
it
can
make
some
improvements.
D
P
Increase
productive
time
slightly,
but
again,
the
real
issue
here
is
filling
those
vacancies
next
time.
Additionally,
the
aru,
which
is
in
the
last
few
years
recently
deployed
this
is
a
vital
program
and
one
that
should
be
expanded.
P
The
department
should
work
with
a
fire
department
to
be
able
to
expand
that
to
increase
its
availability,
to
respond
to
non-violent
crisis
situations,
but
again
going
back
to
vacancies.
This
also
limits
the
ability
for
the
specialized
field
units
as
well
so
right
now
the
traffic
and
DWI
units
are
carrying
significant
vacancies
and
that's
really
limiting
their
capacity
to
to
provide
the
level
of
service
that
they're
meant
to
provide
bike
unit.
It's
one
where
to
be
able
to
have
that
kind
of
corrective
presence,
especially
given
special
events
and
other
responsibilities.
P
Okay,
thank
you
again.
Next,
moving
on
to
investigations,
John
Scruggs
swing,
the
team
will
summarize
what
we
came
up
with
there
investigations.
We
looked
at
all
the
cases
that
were
assigned
detectives
all
the
cases
that
came
in
with
the
case.
Screening.
P
Down
the
cases
by
unit
overall
caseloads
are
fairly
low,
but
many
detectors
also
have
anxiety,
duties
or
responsibilities
that
take
their
time
like
spot.
That
takes
up
time
for
training
as
well
and
case
management
methods
should
be
strengthened.
We
noted
that
a
lower
number
of
cases
are
assigned,
and
we
typically
see
so
cases
should
be
screened
more
effectively
for
solubility
and
fun
detectives.
Q
T
Patrol
and
in
investigations,
but
this
is
often
neglected
in
many
police
departments
around
the
country.
As
a
result,
the
effectiveness
of
a
police
department
can
be
impacted
by
not
having
sufficient
resources
to
back
them
up
in
terms
of
hiring
in
terms
of
training
in
terms
of
records
and
other
kinds
of
administer,
administrative
support,
as
well
as
property
and
evidence.
U
T
T
And
evidence
you've
got
a
growing
backlog
of
items
that
need
to
be
purged
and
we've
recommended
temporary
positions
to
help
you
deal
with
that,
as
well
as
to
help
with
the
the
periodic
audits
to
make
sure
that
everything
is
in
place
within
property
and
evidence.
T
There
are
some
work
management
and
other
kinds
of
information
and
management
systems
that
need
to
be
upgraded.
That
would
also
assist
in
providing
support
and
facilitating
the
work
in
the
department,
particularly
relating
to
training
records,
but
also
payroll
systems,
but
that's
more
of
a
city-wide
issue
that
is
impacting
the
police
department
more
because
it's
a
very
large
Department.
T
Lastly,
we,
as
we
mentioned
before,
we
looked
at
projections
of
workloads
and
Staffing,
and
what
we've
talked
about
up
to
this
morning,
just
current
needs
and
so
I'll
turn
it
back
to
Ian
again
to
talk
about
our
projections
of
Staffing
so
to
project
Staffing.
We
first
looked
at
projecting
population
and
to
do
that,
we
looked
at
plant
development
over
the
next
several
years
and
using
assumptions
for
population
for
housing
unit,
the
rate
of
Housing
and
construction
once
those
houses
are
built.
T
How
quickly
they're
built
to
construct
projections
for
the
population
over
time
and
and
use
that
to
model
how
that
would
affect
service
needs
as
far
as
culture,
service
and
crime
and
using.
H
These
key
workload,
drivers,
you're
able
to
look
at
with
culture
service.
You
can
project,
for
example,
Patrol
staffing
needs,
but
that
also
directly
affects
record
Staffing
aids,
for
instance,
and
so
using
that
crime
to
projections
to
be
able
to
project
what
detective
staffing
needs
are
We
examined
how
the.
V
Department
will
need
to
grow
for
every
position
within
the
department
to
be
able
to
provide
not
necessarily
enhance
level
Source,
but
just
be
able
to
provide
the
same
level
of
service.
That's
provided
now
into
the
future
as
as
workload
increases,
and
so
to
be
able
to
do
that
over
the
next
10
years.
28
additional
swarm
positions
are
needed,
as
well
as
eight
new
civilian
positions.
Most
of
those
four
positions
are
in
Patrol,
where,
with
increasing
cultural
service
demands,
Staffing
will
need
to
be
augmented
throughout
that
time
period.
V
So,
in
summary,
before
we
turn
it
over
to
the
questions
in
our
work,
it's
clear
that
there
are
many
positives
within
the
department,
but
it's
going
to
be
extremely
difficult
for
them,
and
many
of
these
functions
to
deliver
expected
levels
of
service,
so
at
currents
Staffing
need
levels
because
of
the
the
vacancies.
So
a
concerted
effort
needs
to
be
made
there,
but
until
that
can
happen,
there's
lots
of
things
that
can
be
done
now,
especially
in
field
services
and
investigations
to
improve
or
provide
the
best
use
of
existing
resources.
V
Some
of
the
alternative
response
techniques,
including
aru,
and
the
the
PSAs
within
the
department,
slightly
changing
deployment
and
within
the
schedule,
can
can
really
help
in
investigations.
A
case
management
system
can
prioritize
cases
that
have
some
solvability
potential
with
impacts,
positive
impacts
there
as
well
and,
as
we
mentioned
some
very
real
needs
within
some
of
the
civilian
administrative
support
functions.
So
now,
you've
got
that
analysis
and
a
plan
for
the
future
and
with
that
I
will
stop
the
screen
share
and
turn
it
over
to
you
for
questions.
Thank
you.
V
Thanks
for
your
team
as
well
appreciate
it
director
Cho
anything
else,
or
should
we
just
go
to
questions
from
the
governing
body?
Counselor
Garcia.
You
have
the
floor.
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor.
Thank
you,
director,
Ochoa
police.
First,
that's
here
in
The.
Matrix
team
really
appreciate
this
overview,
as
we've
been
needing
to
take
a
deeper
dive
into
the
logistics
and
our
staffing.
J
H
T
W
Really
appreciate
the
focus
on
the
PSAs.
This
is
something
that
I've
been
trying
to
encourage
us
to
do
in
the
past.
In
regards
to
look
at
the
PSAs
as
a
pipeline
to
our
police
force
twofold,
it's
easier
for
us
to
bring
them
on
board
versus
a
sworn
officer.
The
needs
are
lower
and
again
that
pipeline
they
can
come
in
immediately
know
if
they
like
the
job
or
not,
and
move
on
up
the
ranks
into
the
police
force.
So
I
would
encourage
us
as
a
city,
to
really
look
at.
W
That
particular
Department,
the
stats
that
were
brought
up
I,
do
got
a
question,
because
if
there
was
a
recommendation
made
over
the
next
10
years
to
bring
on
28
sworn
officers
and
nine
civilians
just
to
maintain
our
current
service
model,
which
I
would
argue
that
we
need
to
do
better
and
it
just
shared
to
our
workload,
our
officers
are
stretched,
thin
and
and
I.
W
We
should
be
striving
for
improving
our
current
practice,
because
if,
in
10
years,
if
we
still
got
response
times
for
folks
are
waiting
for
sometimes
up
to
six
seven
hours
for
a
police
officer
to
respond,
we're
not
meeting
our
needs
of
our
community,
and
so
with
that
being
said,
is:
has
that
been
taken
into
account?
How
can
we
improve
response
time?
How
can
we
set
goals
to
what
is
the
Staffing
level,
not
only
in
10
years,
but
currently
what
is
needed
to
increase
or
not
increase
lower?
That
response
time?
W
S
Minutes
is
very
high
expectations,
but
I
think
we
should.
Y
Let
Ian
respond
to
this
in
more
detail,
but
in
in
general
it
gets
back
to
the
distinction
that
we've
been
talking
about
of
the
difference
between
budgeted,
Physicians
and
vacancies
and
right
now
your
vacancies
are
at
an
unusually
high
level,
and
so
we
authorizing
more
positions
to
to
cover
higher
levels
of
vacancies
is
not
the
best
approach,
it's
better
to
improve,
Recruitment
and
Retention,
so
that
you
don't
have
these
unusual
vacancy
rates
that
you
have
in
the
last
couple
of
years.
Y
That's
correct,
so
our
projections
are
based
off
of
not
the
being
at
the
33,
because
that's
because
of
the
current
number
of
vacancies,
the
current
number
of
filled
positions.
It's
based
off
of
how
budgeted
staffing
needs
to
change
So,
currently
to
be
able
to
achieve
that
level
of
service
that
you're
talking
about
for
patrol
response.
They'll
have
40
per
active
time
to
be
able
to
have
those
response
times.
75
positions
are
needed
and
Department
currently
has
more
than
that
number
budgeted.
Y
So
the
projections
they're
looking
at
to
be
able
to
provide
that
same
level
of
service
to
40
percent
proactive
time.
How
budgeted
staffing
needs
to
respond
but
again
to
be
able
to
meet
those
needs?
Even
if
you,
even
as
you
add
additional
positions
in
the
future,
they
need
to
be
filled
to
be
able
to
actually
deliver
that
level
of
service.
Y
So
did
we
not
look
at
the
current
need
for
our
Force
I
mean
I
I,
guess
I'm?
Okay,
so
then
what
I
guess?
My
question
is:
what
is
the
sufficient
size
of
force?
We
need
to
begin
to
do
things
such
as
lowering
response
time
putting
more
officers
on
the
ground.
Etc
I
mean
what.
S
J
Z
The
problem
are
the
vacancies,
the
unusually
high
number
of
vacancies
right
now,
you've
got
83
positions
authorized
and
we
could
say
maybe
budget
93
positions
and
you're
still
not
going
to
be
able
to
get
those
people
under
the
current
approaches
for
recruitment,
Recruitment
and
also
retaining
staff.
So
that's
where
the
problem
is
right.
No
I
definitely
understand
this.
The
recruitment
challenge
and
we
budgeted
but
I,
think
we
began
to
need
to
look
at
a
number.
We've
got
x,
amount
filled.
Z
We
need
to
be
striving
for
x,
amount
and
and
I
I
guess
we're.
That's
not
part
of
this
study
is
to
achieve
maximum
output
production
by
the
by
the
officers.
This
is
how
many
police
officers
need
to
be
on
staff.
The
budget
is
a
completely
different
process.
We
can,
as
you
mentioned,
we
could
budget
for
a
thousand
that
that's
not
going
to
change
the
the
number
of
appropriate
level
of
Staffing
and
I.
Think
that's
the
Crux
of
what
I'm
trying
to
get
at
what
is
the
appropriate
Staffing
level.
Z
We
need
to
be
striving
for
whether
it
is
uniformed
officer
sworn
officers
or
civilian
staff,
because
we
both
know
I
think
we
can
agree
that
there
is
this,
the
sworn
officer
work
that
needs
to
be
done
as
well
as
the
civilian
and
because
it's
not
one
or
other.
What
is
what
is
the
appropriate
Staffing
level?
We
need
to
be
striving
for
not
budgeting.
For
Staffing
level.
Z
We
need
to
be
striving
for
Mr
Mayor,
councilor,
Michael
Garcia,
so
the
appropriate
number
they
identified
in
the
study
is
75
Patrol
officers
on
patrol
and
to
be
able
to
support
that
staff.
We'll
need
a
number
of
Civilian
staff
so,
depending
on
what
kind
of
workout
load
that
is
coming
based
on
those
numbers.
That
would
identify
how
many
support
staff
that
we
need,
and
that
would
be
administrative
assistance,
records
technicians.
AA
L
AB
Staff,
that's
why
it's
at
83
staff-
that's
out
I,
believe
83
steps
allocated
to
patrol,
but
this
study
was
just
focused
on
the
number
of
Staff
needed
for
patrol
to
be
effective,
what
they're
doing,
but
with
any
type
of
operation
you
need
that
support
staff
in
the
back
end.
So
the
biggest
challenge
we're
facing
now
is
both
the
recruiting
side
and
retention
side.
If
we're
able
to
recruit
and
retain
that
many
staff
that
we
would
see
a
increased
level
of
services,
it
will
be
provided
to
our
community
yeah.
AB
Let
me
add
one
more
thing,
so
the
numbers
are
actually
in
the
report.
The
number
of
people
you
need
for
current
workloads
and
an
appropriate
level
of
service
is
159
sworn
and
60
non-sworn
and
look
at
it.
This
way,
you're
you're
down
19
positions.
If
you
were
able
to
cut
that
in
half,
which
would
be
a
more
normal
kind
of
vacancy
rate,
that's
almost
the
equivalent
of
two
people
around
the
clock,
which
would
have
a
huge
impact
on
proactivity
response
times,
and
things
like
that.
AB
AB
So
75
the
number
that
number
75
is
75
on
patrol
at
any
given
time
am
I
understanding
that
correctly
allocated
to
patrol
okay,
maybe
he's
put
on
shifts,
and
so
I'd
break
it
down
to
about
12,
to
Fortune
officers
on
duty
at
any
given
time
and
then
I'll
accommodate
it
with
a
double
where
they'd
have
about
around
20
to
24..
Okay,
and
what
is
the
current
Staffing
level,
but
how
many
offers
do
we
have
on
any
given
time?
AB
So
to
be
frank,
today
you
likely
have
eight
officers
on
patrol
two
sergeants
and
a
lieutenant,
and
that's
if
everyone
shows
up
now,
if
someone
is
on
quarantine
for
some
reason,
it
may
drop
down
to
six
and
we
may
need
a
supplement
from
other
sections,
whether
it
be
from
investigations
or
if
it
comes
from
the
training
recruitment
section
if
they
have
to
stop
until
they
can
backfill
and
for
us
that
is
not
a
safe
number
to
be
operating
as
okay.
Thank
you,
deputy.
H
Strive
to
achieve
our
maximum
output
by
the
officers
here
I
do
want
to
thank
the.
R
On
the
promotion,
and
just
please
pass
along
my
thanks
to
all
the
officers
I
know
you
all
are
stretched,
then
you
all
are
put
in
some
challenging
situations
and
just
know
that
we're
here
to
support
you
if
we
need
to
strive
for
having
12
folks
on
duty
at
any
given
time.
Let's
work
towards
that,
let
us
know
what
you
need
from
us
to
make
that
happen.
R
R
G
R
R
How
typical
we
are
experiencing
to
other
cities,
like
is
everybody
short
staffed
in
Patrol
officers
and
administrators
and
is
is
this
a
nationwide
problem
or
some
something
only
we
experience?
No,
it
is
indeed
a
nationwide
problem,
and
do
we
have
a?
How
is
how
is
our
problem?
Compare
I
mean?
Are
we
pretty
typical?
Are
we
you're
you're
pretty
typical?
R
Some
are
worse,
some
are
not
quite
so
bad,
so
yeah
I'd
say,
but
it
is
especially
the
last
couple
of
years,
but
it's
it's
been
a
general
trend
of
alternative
jobs
that
people
wanted
to
take.
The
protest
of
2020
had
an
impact,
and
so
it's
been
difficult
to
attract
and
retention
has
also
been
a
problem
in
law
enforcement
that
people
are
leaving
law
enforcement,
affordable
retirement
age,
and
are
you
seeing
things.
AC
Yes
and,
of
course,
working
with
other
departments,
we've
seen
some
strategies
to
help
alleviate
these
problems,
such
as
more
local
hiring,
making
it
clear
that
you
are
are
hiring
looking
for
problem
solvers
and
people
who
want
to
work
with
the
community
casting
the
job
is
something
different
than
what
it
is
sometimes
portrayed
to
be
in
the
community.
Expediting
recruitment
in
selection.
AC
Therefore,
recommendations
like
the
additional
background,
investigator
being
quite
open
about
high
levels
of
morale
within
the
department,
which
is
impaired
from
our
interviews
in
the
employee
survey
that
that's
the
case.
Those
kinds
of
strategies
have
helped
address
that
and
have
you
seen
anything
in
terms
of
in
in
recruitment?
AC
What,
when,
where
and
how
are
the
best
ways
to
get
people
interested
in
law
enforcement?
You
know
some
of
the
things
I
mentioned.
Somebody
on
our
team
is
on
Kelly.
She
specializes
in
this
Kelly.
You
probably
have
some
additional
thoughts
to
that
sure.
Absolutely
so.
With
regards
to
Recruitment
and
your
in
your
particular
situation,
you
have
one
staff
person
assigned
to
both
your
Recruitment
and
your
background.
AC
Investigations
both
of
those
jobs
are
pretty,
have
a
lot
of
subtasks
assigned
to
them,
and
so,
when
you
add
even
one
position,
you
allow
your
background
investigator
to
focus
on
that
and
your
recruiter
to
focus
on
your
recruitment
strategies
and
around
the
nation.
AC
Recruitment
strategies
that
have
been
more
successful
is
having
that
particular
recruiter
really
engage
with
your
community
in
a
meaningful
way,
and
that
means
actually
in
person
and
if
there
are
some
ability
or
in
some
ability
to
to
have
collateral
or
other
officers,
assist
with
getting
out
and
meeting
and
connecting
with
your
community.
Those
are
the
agencies
where
we
saw
a
successful
support
from
the
community
and
more
officers,
who
would
then
come
and
be.
H
A
part
or
want
to
be
a
part
of
the
police
agency
is
that
answered
a
little
bit
yeah.
G
I'm
just
kind
of
curious,
you
know
I
mean
you,
you've
told
us.
We
need
X,
Y
and
Z
I'm
interested
now
in
how
how
we
go
about
starting
to
get
x,
y
and
z,
and
recognizing
that
this
is
a
you
know.
These
are
we
don't
just
go
tomorrow
and
and
have
a
pool
of
people
we
can
hire
to
solve
this
problem?
It's
it's
like.
We
said
it's
a
national
like
was
said.
It's
a
national
problem.
G
Lots
of
people
are
struggling,
lots
of
communities
are
struggling
with
getting
the
level
of
law
enforcement,
they
need,
and
it's
it's
you
know
it's
not
an
easy,
not
an
easy
fix.
So
I'm
just
curious
what
you
all
see
since
you
work
at
a
high
level
with
so
many
different
departments.
G
Well,
it's
just
some
of
the
strategies.
We've
talked
about
and
others
like
selectively,
recruiting
in
markets
where
people
are
looking
to
get
out
of
like
major
metropolitan
areas.
The
Northeast
Etc
I
think
especially
where
you
are
you've,
got
a
lot
to
attract
potential
law
enforcement
personnel.
G
Have
you
seen
other
incentives?
We
we
have.
You
know.
Certainly,
we've
done
things
with
paying
more
we're
looking
at
at
you
know,
down
payment
assistance
or
you
know
we
got
we
are
you
know
we
just
made
a
big
investment
in
in
cars,
which
is
somebody
pointing
I.
Think
our
director
pointed
out.
Those
are
basically
offices
or
officers,
and
you
know
do
those
kinds
of
things.
G
Do
you
see
those
making
a
big
difference
in
in
attracting
people
collectively
they
all
make
a
difference,
and
yes,
agencies
are
certainly
looking
at
compensation
and
benefits.
They're.
Looking
at.
H
Take-Home
cars
as
a
program,
those
types
of
things
help
yeah
I,
didn't
see.
AF
AF
Well,
what
we
were
principally
charged
with
was
looking
at
what
the
Staffing
levels
are
and
that's
pretty
a
pretty
clear
recommendation
and
answer
and
how
you
count
that
up
in
terms
of
direct
indirect
costs
is
is
is
a
little
different,
so
we
give
you
the
numbers
of
people
that
you
need
all
right
and
I
asked
that
question
mostly
because
I
just
wanted
to
eliminate
you
all
on
the
screen.
AF
As
the
experts
and
I
I
would
like
to
ask
this
question
of
Chief
joy
and
director
Ochoa,
you
said
you'd
be
willing
to
come
to
the
quality
of
life
committee
to
discuss
this
report
in
more
detail.
I
would
like
to
invite
you
to
finance
and
I
would
like
some
numbers
associated
with
what
it
would
cost
to
implement.
What's
being
recommended
here
and
then
also
I
think
my
my
sense
is:
is
it's
going
to
be
way
more
expensive
than
perhaps
we
can
do
in
one
swing?
And
so
you
know
it
some
sense.
AG
Of
prioritization,
if
you
you
know,
you
have
all
these
things
that
have
been
recommended.
What
are
the
kinds
of
you
know?
How
would
you
prioritize
them?
What's
the
cost
Associated
so
that
we
can
start
to
think
as
a
finance
committee
about
how
we
help
Finance
the
recommendations
that
are
that
are
being
presented
here
and
you
know,
I
mean
I,
think
it's
very
interesting.
AG
What
kinds
of
things
need
to
be
happening
in
recruitment,
but
we're
also
going
to
need
to
to
really
understand
how
to
allocate
dollars
to
get
this
done
and
I
think
that
would
be
a
good
exercise
for
us
in
the
coming
months,
as
we
start
to
think
about
a
budget
for
for
next
year,.
AG
Council
women
remember
worth
yes,
I
mean
just
to
clarify.
These
are
no
cost
Solutions
currently
being
offered
in
the
report,
but
absolutely
with
a
10-year
projection.
We
need
to
have
a
plan
each
year
and
how
we're
going
to
grow
the
budget
for
that
I.
AG
Think
if
we
look
at
the
alternative,
Response
Unit
recommendation
and
what
that
really
means
that'll
be
another
budget
increase,
and
then
you
know
some
of
the
no
cost
solutions
that
were
outlined
here,
we're
very
happy
to
say
many
of
them
have
been
in
one
way
or
another,
already
implemented
as
of
the
beginning
of
this
calendar
year.
AG
So
we're
happy
to
come
to
finance
yeah,
well,
I,
I.
Just
think
that,
to
the
extent
there
is
a
cost
right,
I
mean
to
add.
Please
officers,
we
have
a
number
budgeted
to
do
more
in
recruitment
to
split
a
position
that
one
person
is
doing
and
making
it
to
that.
That
seems
to
me
a
cost,
isn't
it
yeah
councilor?
Remember:
we've
already
done
that.
Okay,
so
we've
already
doubled
the
number
of
recruiters
that
we
have.
We
now
have
two
recruiters.
AG
We
pulled
another
detective
from
temporarily
from
his
primary
assignment
to
assist
with
backgrounds,
to
further
free
up
those
resources
as
well,
and
we
have
a
number
of
Patrol
officers.
D
With
programs
and
coming
up
with
ideas,
if
you're
familiar
with
the
superhero
day
that
they
had
a
couple
of
months
ago,
that
came
from
a
patrol
officer
who,
who
wanted
to
put
that
together.
So
we,
these
are
all
things
that
we're
doing
in
real
time
and
working
on
so
I,
it's
great,
so
that
I
think
that
that
order
is
here's
the
recommendations
from
this
national
company,
that
that
knows
what
they're
talking
about,
and
here's,
where
we
stacked
up
against
what
we've
been
recommended,
that
we
do.
D
We've
done
this
we're
working
on
that
we're
we're.
We
need
to
do
this
and
it's
gonna.
You
know
we're
gonna
need
more
money,
so
so
that
we
understand
kind
of
how
how
to
help
right
get
this
done
right.
Customer
with
you
all
right,
we're
more
than
happy
to
go
all
right.
So
here's
the.
S
Invitation,
it's
been
offered
and
accepted,
look
forward
to
seeing
you
so.
AC
AC
Vacancies
that
we
would
have
sufficient
Staffing
for
our
current
level
of
calls
is
that
correct.
You
will
always
have
vacancies.
You
will
never
be
at
the
authorized
level
right
now
that
level
of
vacancies
is
extraordinarily
high.
So
if
you
were
able
to
fill
more
of
those
yes
you'd
be
closer
to
where
you
need
to
be
okay,
so
those
are
already
budgeted
positions,
so
we
we
need
to
work
harder
at
filling
those
those
vacancies
that
we
currently
have
correct.
Okay,
thank
you
in
the
study.
AC
AC
I
think
that
may
be
a
call,
a
question
for
our
team
over
from
sfpd.
Actually,
it's
for
the
Matrix
Group
I
wanted
to
know.
If
you
looked
at
the
recc
data
and
looked
at
some
of
the
issues
they're
having
and
how
how
it
affected
the
study.
Well,
the
the
the
recc
data
is
principally
what
we
use
for
the
analysis
of
field
services
overall
and
the
information
that
we
had
didn't
indicate
things
that
would
impact
that,
like
delays
on
dispatch.
AH
Were
supported
while
on
duty,
Mr,
Mayor,
Council
Rivera,
so
the
data
they're
talking
about
is
obviously
that's
where
they
get
their.
Our
calls
for
service
comes
primarily
I,
I,
think
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
here,
you're
referencing,
the
vacancy
rate
and
the
issues
that
they're
dealing
with
their
Staffing
Matrix
was
not
asked
to
evaluate
that
they
would
be
because
recc
is
their
own
entity
and
they
they're
under
the
umbrella,
or
at
least
primarily
the
county
that
would
have
to
be
commissioned
separately.
AH
So
does
their
ability
then
to
dispatch
affect
some
of
what
you
asked
the
Matrix
to
do
for
the
city
with
regard
to,
and
this
is
a
heart
I'll
reference,
an
article
that
came
out
recently,
and
maybe
that's
what
you're
referencing
as
well
as
I
discussed
it.
There
are
a
number
of
issues
with
regard
that
effect
response
time.
Certainly
one
of
those
is
going
to
be
their.
The
issues
that
they're
facing
with
their
Staffing
as
well,
but
also
part
of
that
is,
is
our
our
staffing
and
our
availability.
AH
The
numbers
of
officers
that
we
have
available
on
the
street
to
respond
to
any
given
call
the
call
types
that
we're
seeing
these
are
things
that
are
fluid
that,
depending
on
the
time
of
day
and
that
Matrix
put
together
as
well
you're
going
to
see
those
are
going
to
impact
response
times
as
well.
So.
AD
The
vacancies
that
dispatch
is
dealing
with
and
they
and
they're
doing
some
of
the
same
strategies
that
you're
doing
to
address
that
in
terms
of
overtime
of
existing
officer,
dispatchers
and
other
techniques,
but
we're
we
didn't
see
anything
that
indicated
that
there
are
delays
in
transferring
a
9-1-1
call
to
available
officers
in
the
field,
for
example
for
mayor
council,
River,
I
hope
this
was
useful
and
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
Richard,
but
Matrix
did
not
examine
our
actual
response
times.
What
they're
saying
is
that
correct
Richard?
AD
No,
we
look
and
we
did
okay,
I'm,
sorry,
I
misspoke,
but
the
the
point
being
that
they
didn't
focus
at
the
racc
level
on
whether
those
stopping
levels
affected
those
times
correct,
yeah
right.
So
in
looking
at
those
times,
you
took
you
had
to
take
the
call
the
time
that
the
call
came
in.
Is
that
correct?
AD
Yes,
so
the
dispatch
time
from
the
time
they
took
the
call
to
the
time
they
send
it
to
an
officer
would
affect
him
would
affect
the
the
response
times
overall
that,
but
the
bigger
issue
is
availability
of
field
units
they
can
go
especially
lower.
Priority
calls
right.
So
so,
if
the
difference
between
the
time
an
officer
is
dispatched
versus
the
time
fall
came
in,
it
is
greater
than
it
should
be.
AD
That
could
be
an
issue
with
RCC,
but
it's
more
likely
or
it
could
also
be
an
issue
with
they're,
just
not
being
any
officers
to
dispatch.
So
if
all
the
officers
are
tied
up
handling
other
calls
you're
going
to
have
higher
response
times
and
greater
time
elasticity
between
dispatching
cooperation,
just
as
a
result
of
that,
okay
and
then,
lastly,
for
chief
joy
and
director
Ochoa
I.
AJ
Unit
and
you
helped
to
convince
me
that
an
aru
officer
probably
wasn't
needed
a
hundred
percent
of
the
time
and
in
some
case
made
things
worse
with
regards
to
the
alternative,
Response
Unit.
So
much
so
that
I
went
and
did
a
ride
along
with
officer
Gonzalez
to
see
for
myself
how
things
were
going
and
we
in
the
probably
five
hours
I
rode
with
her
I
think
we
maybe
followed
an
aru
unit
to
a
certain
location,
but
never.
AJ
Themselves
without
an
officer
so
here
we're
saying
that
we
need
more
officers
to
help
in
an
area
where
you
don't
think
officers
are
really
needed.
The
help
Council
Rivera
was
discussed
was
expansion
of
aru.
If
the
determined
this
is
where
air
you
get
to
dictate.
If
we
expand
more
officers
or
not
as
an
example
here,
U2
has
been
up
and
running
now,
so
what
we
did
was
we
took
the
officer
because
it
belts
around
a
little
bit
but
aru1,
which
is
the
unit
that
you
were
following
and
tracking.
AJ
They
got
to
the
point,
the
way
that
they
had
discussed.
What
we,
what
you
mentioned
earlier,
where
there
were
calls
where
officer
Gonzalez,
who
is
professional
and
and
all
the
things
that
we
hope
for
as
an
officer,
but
just
her
presence
was,
was
triggering
folks
or
causing
issues,
and
so
it
was
determined
that
she
had
been
with
air
U1
for
that's
the
picture
and
not
enough
amount
of
time
that
they
felt
comfortable.
They
felt
comfortable
with
being
able
to
triage
and
handle
and
make
those
safety
assessments.
AJ
Once
we
get
air
U2
up
to
that
level,
then
that
officer
will
transition
and
and
bounce
back
and
forth
between
both
units
and
follow
both
and
just
be
available,
and
also
on
top
of
our
Patrol
officers,
who
are
on
the
field,
if
needed,
just
to
make
sure
everyone
understands
that,
but
as
this
program
expands,
if
they,
if
the
need
based
on
the
program,
tells
us
they
need
more
of
our
officers
to
assist,
then
they're
going
to
get
that.
AJ
H
Z
AL
U
Report
I
look
forward
to
digging
into
it
more
with
quality
of
life.
I
think
we
can
all
agree
that
the
major
theme
has
to
do
with
recruitment.
We've
discussed
what
has
worked
in
other
areas
and
I
know
that
this
has
been
something
that
we've
been
focusing
on,
or
you
all
have
been
focusing
on
for
a
while.
It's
really
not
a
surprise
that
Recruitment
and
Retention
are
an
issue.
U
I
do
want
to
hear
a
bit
more
about
what
some
of
the
recruitment
efforts
that
have
been
happening
within
the
department,
how
those
have
changed,
because
we
we
have
seen
that
traditionally,
what
we
were
doing
wasn't
fully
working
and
I'm
curious
to
hear
what
new
strategies
have
been
utilized
by
the
department
and
how
they're
going
and
also
what
future
plans
you
may
have
already
based
on
this
report,
Mr
Mayor,
councilor
cassid.
So
one
thing
that
we
have
kept
as
our
Hallmark
that
we
really
hold
here
is
our
Department's
reputation.
That.
U
Our
recruiting
efforts,
a
lot
of
people's
care
department
is
very
respectable
and
audible
department
and
they
want
to
be
part
of
it,
so
that
that
is
our
Hallmark
recruiting
piece
that
we
always
turn
back
to.
But
we've
come
a
long
way
since
2018
with
many
members
of
council
that
are
here
today
with
our
pay
increases
at
that
point.
Apd
really
hit
us
with
a
large
blow.
U
We
lost
upwards
of
12
officers
in
within
a
month's
period,
and
the
council
worked
with
us
to
try
to
make
sure
that
we
hang
on
to
The
Talented
officers
that
we
have
and
try
to
attract
others.
So
with
that
we've
done
pay
increases,
we've
done
hiring
incentives
for
both
lateral
police
officers,
Cadet
hires
at
one
point
as
well,
and
that
helped
us
get
our
numbers
up,
but
we
were
fighting
a
battle
off
three
fronts
for
one
we're
trying
to
retain
staff.
U
Secondly,
we
have
staff
that
may
transfer
to
the
department,
and
then
we
also
have
retirements.
So
we
have
to
account
for
those
two
positions
of
nutrition
through
retirements
and
transfers.
We'll
also
hang
on
to
the
staff
that
we
have,
but
it
makes
it
difficult
for
the
staff
that
we
have,
because,
as
we're
losing
staff,
we're
not
able
to
get
people
that
are
interested.
AJ
That
want
to
come
into
law
enforcement.
Those
that
are
here
are
working
extra
shifts,
they're
taking
on
extra
duties
and
we're
pushing
them
along
harder
than
we
would
if
we
would
have
been
fully
staffed.
So
that
was
very
challenging.
So
with
our
wellness
and
our
you
know,
try
to
make
sure
we
take
off
our
staff
that
came
at
the
Forefront
big
time
to
make
sure
that
we
keep
the
staff
that
we
have
and
that
they're
still
ready
to
go
for
the
next
year.
As
we
try
to
onboard
new
staff.
AD
AJ
So
we're
looking
at
a
six
to
eight
week,
turnaround
from
the
time
of
high
of
application,
submission
and
interviewing
to
when
we
offer
the
position,
because
we
want
to
get
people
to
endure
as
quickly
as
possible
on
the
other
side
as
well,
we're
seeing
the
same
challenge
with
our
civilian
staffs,
we're
using
that
same
model
as
well
to
try
to
speed
up
that
process.
AJ
What's
really
killing
us
on
civilian
staff.
Side,
which
we
have
not
been
able
to
address
is
the
pain
with
our
administrative
staff.
Much
like
Matrix
mentioned
we
had
about
five
administrative
assistants
apply
this
last
go-round.
We
had
three
records,
Tech
positions
applied
when
we
moved
up
to
pay
to
15
an
hour
for
the
starting
pay
for
the
state
of
Santa,
Fe
cost
compaction
between
our
records
texts
and
our
admin
assistant,
so
they're
at
the
same
rate
of
pay.
AJ
So
that's
looking
to
hopefully
get
addressed
through
cop
in
class,
but
that
really
was
a
challenge
that
posted
us
to
now.
They
could
apply
for
E
to
one
those
that
did
apply
for
those
also
apply
for
other
positions
we
had
in
the
department
which
included
Animal,
Services,
Public,
Safety,
Aid
and
evidence
technician
when
they
got
the
conditional
hire
for
those
higher
paying
jobs
at
18
an
hour.
They
remove
themselves
in
the
process
from
those
other
two
positions.
AJ
Now
we're
going
to
go
back
to
the
drawing
board
to
announce
again,
but
with
the
pay
that
always
seems
to
be
an
issue
with
those
two
positions
with
those
staff,
as
well
they're,
very
dedicated
to
come
in
every
day.
They're
doing
the
work
of
at
least
three
staff
members,
each
and
they're
still
here
dedicated
coming
doing
a
great
job.
So
for
us
we're
trying
to
hang
on
them
as
much
as
possible.
AJ
I'll
be
coming
back
to
you
guys
in
the
coming
months
to
ask
you
for
assistance
with
that,
but
we're
making
sure
that
the
staff
that
we
do
have
they're
our
best
recruiters.
We
have
two
that
are
fully
dedicated
to
doing
that
skill
set,
but
each
one
of
our
staff
members
are
our
best
recruiters.
You
know
people
in
the
community.
They
have
friends
in
the
profession
that
know
what
we
offer
here
in
Santa,
Fe,
so
they're,
getting
that
information
and
they're
sending
it
to
us
from
this
last
Cadet
class.
AJ
That
graduated
with
our
Cadets
we're
even
looking
at
recruiting
officers
from
that
class
because
they
saw
the
interaction
they
had
with
our
staff
During
the
period
of
the
academy
and
then
how
they
came
into
the
department.
Following
the
academy
process
and
they're
impressed,
they
see
what
we're
offering
for
pay
increases.
They
know
the.
AC
Was
in
law
enforcement
Senate
has
always
been
a
great
department,
so
we're
really
leaning
on
our
reputation.
That
is
a
big
thing
and
we're
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
always
keep
intact
but
we're
thinking
outside
the
box.
Even
with
our
youth,
we
had
to
sideline
our
community
relations
officer
during
coven
and
for
us
I
wish.
We
could
have
kept
him
out
there
because
he
was
really
our
lifelong
to
the
community
with
a
lot
of
events
and
a
lot
of
other
venues
where
we
would
have
access
to
Our,
Youth
and
Young
adults.
AC
AC
Lasting
Impression
with
our
youth,
or
even
people
that
start
later
on
in
life
in
their
20s,
their
30s
to
say,
hey,
you
know
what
I
want
to
start
with
Stephanie
Police
Department,
that's
how
many
of
us
got
recruited,
that's
what
worked
for
me.
I
saw
people
that
came
before
me.
I'm,
like
I,
want
to
be
like
them,
so
we're
trying
to
make
sure
that
people
have
that
positive
impression.
Now,
frankly,
we
can't
control
everything.
AC
There
are
some
people
that
experience
some
type
of
trauma
if
we
have
to
go
and
handle
a
domestic
violence
call
or
make
an
arrest
of
a
felon
member.
But
it's
making
sure
that
each
and
every
day
we
go
out
there
we
earn
the
trust
of
our
community.
We
can't
just
take
it
for
granted
each
and
every
day
we
have
to
earn
that
trust,
and
we
have
to
let
people
know
we're
here
to
help.
AC
AC
So
those
are
the
ways
that
we're
trying
to
track
people
right
now
with
the
extension
of
the
take-home
radius,
we're
seeing
profound
impact
right
now
with
officers
that
want
to
come
to
Stampy
police
that
can
Now
commute
from
their
home
to
our
station
and
provide
police
services,
and
many
of
them
are
tenured
officers.
So
that's
their
working
office
right
now
we
have
a
number
of
them
in
the
background
process,
hoping
to
come
with
great
news
in
about
a
month
to
say
we're
bringing
x
amount
of
laterals
in
to
help
us
with
our
vacancies.
AC
Thank
you
so
much
WG
Sal
does
and
that's
something
that
I'll
be
interested
in
hearing.
You
know
through
quality
of
life,
as
we
walk
through
these
recruitment
efforts
and
really
tracking
them
and
seeing
what
else
we
need
to
do
the
other
thing
you
know
as
we
look
at
this
growth
piece
and
it
sounds
like
building
a
pipeline
is
important
and
I
know
that
I've
had
this
conversation,
I
believe
with
you,
I
believe
a
chief
Joy,
probably
director
Ochoa.
J
Sounds
like
something
we
would
discuss
so
I
am
curious
about.
X
Not
just
you
know,
kind
of
showing
up
and
having
these
single
touch
points,
but
but
really
how
we
might
start
to
work
with
you.
X
I
imagine
this
would
be
another
good
place
to
partner
with
the
fire
department
and
finding
their
place
in
public
safety
and
public
service.
Is
that
something
that
you
have
been
moving
forward
with?
X
Yes,
counselors
through
Archer
covet,
we
had
a
internship
program
with
the
Sandy
Community
College
and
we
were
able
to
yield
both
police
officers
and
several
civilian
staff
through
that
internship
right
now
we're
trying
to
get
that
up
and
running
again.
We've
had
a
lot
of
great
support
from
one
of
our
retired
captains,
who
retired
back
in
the
90s.
Who
is
a
volunteer.
That
is
our
asset.
That.
AC
AM
More
like
hey,
we
want
to
show
up
and
have
lunch
with
you.
We
want
to
show
up
and
have
a
class.
We
talk
about
here's.
What
police
officers
do
we
work
with
human
resources
at
one
point,
with
the
Eco
program
for
our
department,
one
we
went,
our
ECC
went
as
well,
so
all
of
those
opportunities
you
know
we
want
to
recouper
within
our
community.
Pretty
much
our
recruiting
pool
is
anywhere
particular
radius.
Is
we've
tried
doing
out
of
state
we
tried
doing
across
the
country?
AM
Sometimes
it
works
out,
but
for
the
vast
majority
of
those
recruitment
efforts
they
haven't
hand
down,
we
got
an
officer
that
with
Services
serve
with
us
for
about
three
to
five
years
and
then
they'd
move
on
to
another
agency.
AM
Some
of
those
local
venues,
educational
institutions
and
other
places
we
can
Network
we're
all
longboard
to
get
that
stuff
done,
and
that's
why
it's
important
for
us
to
not
only
have
a
recruiting
staff
out
there,
but
also
our
crime
prevention
and
any
opportunity
we
can
have
to
get
our
officers
out
there,
interacting
with
the
community,
where
they're
not
allocated
to
a
call
in.
We
should
do
that
stuff
on
overtime.
We
want
to
make
those
good
interactions
happen.
So
people
know
here's
aware
about
here's.
Why
we're
here?
This
is
the
service.
AM
Wonderful.
Thank
you.
So
much
I
really
appreciate
that
I
will
say:
I
can't
recall
which
officer
it
was,
but
I
had
a
wonderful
interaction
with
an
officer
at
my
dry
cleaners,
so
the
officers
really
are
out
there
and
representing
the
department
well
and
I,
truly
appreciate
that
and
as
I
mentioned
I
look
forward
to
further
discussions,
especially
through
quality
of
life
committee.
So,
thank
you
all
again.
Thank
you
for
the
report.
AM
It
really
is
a
wonderfully
detailed,
so
members
of
the
public,
if
you
haven't,
had
the
opportunity
to
read
it,
I
I
recommend
it.
It's
a
pretty
enlightening.
H
AN
Community
safety.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
counselor
councilor
Lindell
and
then
councilor
Lee,
Garcia
mayor
just
Joy.
You
can
help
me
with
this
I
just
didn't
understand
one
of
the
seem
like
recommendations
that
they
had.
It
was
eliminate
workday,
shared
schedule
and
instead
stagger
shifts
across
weeks.
What
does
that
mean
counselor?
So
up
until
recently,
we
had
all
Patrol
shifts,
so
we
have
three
Patrol
shifts.
Each
shift
has
four
teams
up
until
a
couple
of
months.
AN
Friday
was
our
singular
common
day,
so
each
team
worked
either
Friday
through
Monday
or
they
worked
Tuesday
through
Friday.
So
all
four
teams
would
all
work
on
one
shared
day.
However,
Friday
was
also
the
day
that
was
used
for
our
special
operations
training,
so
our
SWAT
team
ERT
explosive
ordinance
teams.
So
what
was
our
supposed
to
be?
Our
shared
common
day
was
cut
into
by
Special
Operations
trainings.
One
of
the
first
changes
that
BC
Champlin
made.
AN
Was
he
split
the
common
days
from
not
this
Friday,
but
also
Friday
and
Monday,
and
then
moved
the
Special
Operations
trainings
to
Monday,
because
that
is
when
you
look
at
all
the
days.
Monday
was
going
to
be
the
least
impactful
for
everyone
involved,
and
so
I've
answered
the
question.
AN
In
other
words,
we've
already
done
this
correct.
That's
all
I
wanted
to
know.
Thank
you
very
much
for
explaining
it.
Thank
you.
Councilor
councilor,
Lee
Garcia
you
have
before.
Thank
you
mayor.
Thank
you
for
all
the
information
and
the
presentation
I.
Most
of
the
questions
that
I
have
were
asked
by
my
colleagues
here
and
as
well.
AN
I
I
think
from
my
standpoint
and
I
can't
imagine
what
what
to
be
in
in
your
shoes
every
day.
Putting
on
that
badge
and
getting
out
there
and
doing
what
you
do
for
our
community
and
I.
Think
that
not
only.
AC
From
everybody
involved
in
how
to
create
your
department
and
and
and
make
it
to
what
it,
what
you
want
it
to
be
and
what
you
want
it
to
be
for
the
community
I
think
the
community
has
to
be
partners
in
that
as
well,
and
one
of
the
things
that
stuck
out
in
the
presentation
was
the
reduction
in
officers
after
2020
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
and
not
feeling
appreciated
and
I.
Think.
AC
The
message
here
that
I'd
like
to
give
is
to
our
community
peoples
to
appreciate
you
guys
and
I
think
that's
one
of
the
biggest
things.
Maybe
a
comment
and
I
appreciate
the
time.
Thank
you,
sir.
Thank
you.
Counselor
I
have
a
couple
of
quick
things.
Director
of
can
I.
F
I
want
to
go
back
to
where
counselor
Michael
Garcia
started
this,
which
is
what
does
the
report
say
about
our.
O
Staffing
levels
and,
if
I
have
it
sort
of
the
punch
line
of
the
whole
first
part
of
the
report,
is
recruitment
and
hiring
should
be
the
focus,
including
A
Renewed,
look
at
compensation
and
incentives
to
attract
quality
candidates
in
such
a
highly
competitive
market
based
on
workload
measured,
the
evidence
does
not
show
a
need
for
additional
budgeted
positions,
so
the
the
fundamental
finding
is
it's
not
about
stat,
it's
not
about
budgeted
positions.
It's
about
our
ability
to
attract
and
retain
and
promote
officers
across
the
board
to
fill
the
existing
budgeted
positions.
O
O
O
That
is
a
proactive
effort
made
by
the
officer
that
can
because
the
officers
the
city
is
broken
down
into
10
areas
for
us
and
the
officers
are
spread
out
through
their
areas
throughout
the
city
whenever
they
are
not
on
calls
for
service,
they
are
encouraged
to
go
through
areas
that
are
of
Interest
either
through
constituent
complaints
or
from
they
know
that
they've
had
a
number
of
calls
in
this
particular
area
for
burglaries
or
what
have
you,
and
so
they
are
encouraged
to
take
it
upon
themselves
to
be
in
that
area
and
do
a
close
Patrol
until
about
that
close
Patrol
that
helps
us
as
well
for
data
and
tracking
many
of
you
may
have
seen
my
emails
where
I
I'll
include
for
every
given
address
or
a
given
location.
O
This
is
this
is
what
the
the
customer
service
looks
like
of
those
calls
for
service
we've
had
X
number
of
post
controls
for
that
area.
AO
Will
I
miss
well
at
the
10
o'clock?
Oh
sorry,
10
o'clock.
That
can
be
for
a
number
of
reasons.
We
have
some
overlap
between
swing
shift
and
graveyard.
Generally
speaking
by
10
o'clock
graveyard.
AP
If
our
officers
would
look
at
my
neighborhood,
because
there's
suspicious
activity
that
concerns
us
or
it's
data-driven
or
observation
driven
by
the
officers,
the
description
second
highest
amount
of
calls
involved,
disorderly
conduct
and
welfare
check
out
that
those
are
things
that
we're
trying
to
divert
to
the
aru
unless
I'm
mistaken,
wouldn't
those
be
reduced
if
we
were
able
to
staff
up
the
alternative,
Response,
Unit,
Mr,
Mayor,
I
I.
Believe
that's
true.
So
in
this
I've
said
this
before
you've
all
heard
me
ad
nauseum
when
I
talk
about
disorderly
conducts
and
Welfare
checks.
AP
Those
are
what
I
call
umbrella
calls
where
there's
a
number
of
call
types
or
behaviors
that
are
presenting
as
potentially
Journal,
but
they
don't
have
a
you
know.
We
rely
on
a
person
making
the
phone
call
to
tell
us
what
they're,
seeing
and
what's
happening,
oftentimes
what
they're
describing
can't
be
qualified.
X
We
were,
we
made
a
big
push
to
include
that
in
the
type
of
calls
that
aru
can
can
handle,
because,
although
it's
we're
seeing
it
and
it's
manifesting
as
as
a
disorderly
conduct
or
something
that
is
being
seen
as
potentially
criminal,
there's
something
deeper
there.
That
would
probably
be
better
served
by
folks
in
the
Behavioral
Health
Community
one
other
data
point
that
I
think
is
interesting
for
all
of
us
to
take
note
of
in
on
the
governing
body,
but
also
in
the
public.
X
According
to
the
data
set,
actual
arrests
make
up
less
than
five
percent
of
all
calls
for
service.
According
to
this
document,
is
that
either
for
you
or
our
friends
from
Matrix?
Is
that
about
councilor
Romero
worst
question?
Is
that
pretty
normal?
Is
that
standard
or
are?
Is
it
unusual
for
a
city
of
our
size
to
have
fewer
than
five
percent
of
all
calls
for
service?
Having
arrests
involved,
Mr
Mayor
I
wouldn't
be
able
to
speak
globally
or
nationally
about
that.
But
I
think
that
sounds
about
right
for
what
we
deal
with.
X
It
falls
into
context.
What
we
usually
see
Ian
can
probably
back
that
up
more
okay.
Exactly
it's
right
in
the
middle
of
the
range
of
what
we
would
expect
for
a
community
of
this
size.
Great,
thank
you.
That's
all
I
have
I
really
appreciate
our
Matrix
Consultants.
Thanks
for
the
report.
I
know
you'll,
be
asked
more
questions
subsequently,
but
appreciate
the
the
thoroughness
of
it
and
thank
you
officers
and
and
Leadership
from
police
Council
Rivera.
Did
you
have
another
question
like?
X
Will
you
send
me
the
report
via
email
I'm,
having
problems
downloading
it
on
time
goes?
So
if
you
could
do
that,
I'd
appreciate
it.
That's
what
we
can
do
it
right.
Any
other
questions.
If
not.
Thank
you
all
very
much
for
the
presentation
and
the
questions
and
the
answers
appreciate
you
thanks
for
your
time
this
evening.
Thank
you,
Madam
clerk.
Can
you
tell
us
what's
next
in
presentations.
X
Yes,
mayor
item.
The
next
item
up
is
item
8B.
It's
the
fiscal
year,
21
audit
status,
update
and
work
fund
review
Ricky
the
gerano
our
intro
assistant,
sign
instructor
is
available
for
the
presentation.
N
AL
Had
a
meeting
with
the
DFA
and
the
Osa
and
City
staff
combined
on
June
24th,
the
Osa
had
requested
a
different
type
of
format
for
presenting
updates.
AP
There
is
some
question
as
to
whether
CLA
will
return
or
not,
but
if
they
don't,
then
we're
prepared
to
proceed
with
the
21..
If
we
do
that,
then
the
on
a
contract
likely
will
end
up
with
21,
22
and
23
a
three-year
contract.
If
they
do
come
back,
then
we'll
still
have
to
bid
out
21
as
an
isolated
year
and
then
bid
out
22,
23
and
24..
AP
M
AI
M
M
In
terms
of
Staffing,
we've
submitted
paperwork
to
HR
for
our
treasury
cash
control
position
and
the
controller
position,
so
those
have
been
selected,
and
hopefully
the
applicants
will
accept
the
offer
and
we'll
move
forward
with
that.
We're
in
the
process
of
closing
year-end
2021
and
22
20
and
21
had
not
been
closed.
We're
entering
year
end
for
22
as
well
and
we'll
be
closing
those
years
shortly:
the
RFP
or
audit
prep
and
accounting
services.
The
bids
are
all
in
they
were
in
as
of
June
23rd,
it
should
be
awarded
by
July
15th.
M
With
that
I
stand
for
any
questions,
I
guess
my
first
question
is
we
had
indicated
that
July
15,
we
would
be
ready.
We
believed
for
audit
to
be
able
to
proceed.
Does
that
date
still
hold.
That
is
a
date
certain.
As
far
as
the
city
Side,
we
will
be
meeting
with
DFA
and
we're
going
to
have
a
work
session
from
one
to
four,
with
representatives
from
DFA
they're
going
to
review
all
the
information.
That's.
R
R
For
yes,
councilor
Garcia
Michael,
thank
you
Mr
Mayor.
Thank
you,
Mr
behadana,
for
being
with
us
tonight,
I
guess
my
question.
Given
that
I
guess
the
impact
of
the
audit
revolves
around
this
question,
are
we
at
risk
of
not
receiving
any
state
Appropriations,
because
we're
late
with
our
audit
I
know
that's
in
it
challenge.
AL
J
J
G
J
J
Was
issued
during
the
Martinez
Administration
states
that
DFA
can
withhold
State,
Appropriations
and
primarily
capital
Appropriations
and
special
Appropriations,
and
we
have
had
some
hold
back
because
of
the
daily
delay
in
the
21
audit.
Once
we
get
that
in
and
I'm
confident
that
we
can
get
that
once
once
we
get
through
the
Readiness
for
audit
assessment
on
the
15th
of
July,
I'm,
very
comfortable
to
say
that
the
audit
should
flow
very
quickly
and
then
we'll
be
out
of
that
that
hold
the
22
audit
is
due
December
15th.
J
Once
we
get
the
Readiness
well,
not
the
Readiness
product,
but
the
audit
prep
and
accounting
contract
with
the
new,
potentially
new
contractors
or
some
returning.
Then
we're
going
to
hit
the
ground
running
right
away.
That's
one
of
the
reasons
we're
trying
to
get
all
the
years
closed
up.
So
we
can
hit.
AQ
Thing
that's
advantageous
for
us
right
now.
Is
we've
been
through
this
for
the
21
year,
so
we
can
pick
up
where
we
left
off
and
just
continue
on
into
audit
of
the
22
year
and
and
leverage
that
would
come
in
right
off
of
22
and
going
into
I'm
21
going
into
22..
Okay,
thank
you
for
that
update
and
just
to
make
sure
I
understood
you
correctly.
Dfa
is
going
to
be
whole.
Withholding
State
Appropriations
until
our
audit
is
in
is
that
correct,
mayor
Weber,
councilor
Garcia.
AQ
They
have
held
back
some
special
Appropriations
and
some
Capital
Appropriations
and
essentially
they've
held
back
some
of
the
draws
that
we
could
do
at
this
point
haven't
been
major,
because
our
major
grant
money
comes,
of
course,
from
the
feds
and
the
state
appropriation.
The
regular
appropriation
is
has
not
been
withheld.
AQ
Okay,
thank
you.
I
really
appreciate
that
and
last
question
I
had
is
during
finance
committee.
I
had
a
question
around
the
consultant
or
contractor
we
hired
to
help
with
the
fiscal
year
21
budget
or
the
fiscal
121
audit,
which
is
opinion
Ventures.
Were
you
able
to
get
clarification,
or
was
the
city
manager
able
to
get
clarification
if
that
contract
is
still
live?
What
deliverables
have
been
turned
in
Etc,
hey,
Weber,
councilor,
Garcia
I
would
defer
to
the
city
manager's
office.
For
that.
AQ
G
AQ
Help
us,
with
the
fiscal
year
21
audit.
From
my
recollection,
it
was
a
six-month
contract
which
would.
AL
R
AK
Guess
my
cup,
my
question
revolves
is
what
deliverables
were:
are
a
product
of
that
contract
Mr
Council
Garcia.
Thank
you
for
that
clarification.
Ms
Woodruff
is
still
working.
I
met
with
her
I
want
to
say
it
was
about
three
to
four
weeks
ago.
AK
I
think
the
contract
had
a
total
number
of
billable
hours
and
she's
whittled
down
and
she's
almost
done,
and
so
I
think
that
we
are
anticipating
a
work
product
of
some
sort
from
her
in
the
next
four
weeks.
I
would
say
as
an
estimate
but
I
think
she's
mere
conclusion
with
what
she's
working
on
okay.
Thank
you,
Mr
Blair.
Will
she
give
us
an
update,
or
is
that
going
to
finance?
AK
Where
would
where
will
that
update,
be
delivered
Mr,
Mr,
mayor
council,
Garcia
that
hasn't
been
determined
yet,
but
we'll
make
sure
to
Loop
University
governing
body
and
as
soon
as
that,
determination
is
made?
Okay.
Thank
you,
Mr
Burke,
with
that.
Thank
you.
Mr
behanano
I
really
appreciate
the
updates.
No
other
questions.
Mr
Mayor
answer
other
questions,
yeah
counselor
castle.
Please
thank
you
so
much
Mr
Mayor!
Thank
you,
Mr
baharana
for
being
here.
AK
My
one
question
has
to
do
with
where
we
are
on
the
cash
reconciliation
for
fy21
and
where
we
are
with
that
progress.
Mayor,
Weber
councilor,
cassette
I'm,
happy
to
report
that
it's
been.
We
had,
as
you
recalled,
4.6
million
dollars
more
in
the
bank
than
we
had
recorded
on
the
books.
Those
have
been
identified
and
reported
to
the
proper
Revenue
accounts
and
individual
funds.
AR
To
70
funds
that
all
our
revenues
and
expenditures
split
out
amongst
the
largest,
of
course,
is
the
general
fund
we're
down
to
approximately
six
hundred
thousand
and
that
will
probably
be
recorded
either
to
revenue
within
the
journal
fund
or
as
a
prior
period
adjustment,
depending
on
discussions
with
the
Auditors,
but
we're
essentially
we're
there.
I
want
to
mention
that
this
isn't
a
typical
just
bank
account
to,
for
example,
QuickBooks
or
whatever
type
of
reconciliation.
The
way
we
maintain
cash
is
in
a
pooled
cash
method.
AR
That
means
everything
that's
coming
into
the
city,
ultimately
winds
up
into
one
account,
and
it's
dispersed
out
of
that
account
we're
looking
at
potentially
changing
that
as
we
get
more
and
more
reconciled,
but
it
it
it's
massive.
There
are
thousands
and
thousands
of
transactions
in
there
and
when
you
look
at
a
budget
this
year
of
close
to
400
million,
the
six
hundred
thousand
is
I
can't
speak
for
the
Auditors,
as
a
former
auditor
I
can
tell
you
that
would
be
immaterial.
AR
Thank
you
so
much
and
then,
as
we
had
discussed,
you
know
in
detail
at
Finance.
If
this
really
is
a
systemic
issue
that
there's
there's
a
lot
of
these
pieces-
and
we
we've
discussed
the
roadmap
of
how
we
are
going
to
be
preventing
that
in
the
future,
but
we
do
know
that
the
22
audit
is
potentially
going
to
be,
could
be
experiencing
similar
problems
and
as
you're
doing
the
closeout
I'm,
assuming
that
that
that's
what
you're
doing
in
real
time
right
now
with
22,
is,
is
doing
this.
AR
B
And
to
have
the
audit
in
on
time,
December
15th
we've
learned
a
lot,
even
in
the
short
time
I've
been
here,
what
the
issues
are
and
we
can
attack
those.
The
good
thing
is
they're,
pretty
consistent
the
the
issues
that
we're
having
are
essentially
carrying
over
into
22,
but
we
have
plans
already
in
place
to
attack
those
issues
based
on
what
we
did
in
21..
B
AT
As
as
we
would
have
liked,
the
contract
will
be
awarded
to
one
general
contractor
who
can
then
subcontract
different
areas
to
other
contractors
and
I.
Think
that's
going
to
be
a
lot
more
effective
in
the
long
run.
Wonderful,
thank
you.
So
much
Mr,
beharano
and
I
appreciate
how
much
detail
you've
been
giving
us
in
finance
and
credit
to
the
chair
for
really
making
sure
that
we
are
on
top
of
this.
So
thank
you
again
other
questions
or
comments.
AT
The
next
item
is
item
8C.
It's
the
sanctioned
camping
in
Santa,
Fe,
recommendations
and
solution.
This
is
presented
by
director
of
community
health
and
safety,
Kara
Ochoa,
as
well
as
thank
you,
Mr
Mayor
members
of
the
governing
body,
we're
here
tonight
to
give
you
an
update
on
where
we
are,
with
our
planning
and
Research
into
sanctioned
encampments
and
I.
AT
Believe
city
clerk
is
going
to
pull
up
the
presentation,
so
you
can
see
it
and
members
of
the
public
can
see
that
we
do
have
some
printed
copies
as
well
in
the
audience,
and
I
just
want
to
emphasize
that
this
has
been
a
very
evolving
and
dynamic
project
and
there
is
no
decision
before
the
governing
body
here
tonight.
It's
another
opportunity,
as
we've
taken
all
along
the
way
to
share
information
with
you
with
members
of
the
public
and
to
answer
any
questions
that
you
may
have
so
for
this
purpose.
AT
Sharing
hold
on
one
moment.
AF
Oh,
thank
you
so
much
next
slide.
Please.
AF
So
what
we
were
doing
before
covid
in
regards
to
our
policies
on
encampments
was
very
expensive.
We
calculated
at
one
point
that
we
spent
roughly
3.4
million
annually
in
public
works
and
Public
Safety
budgets.
AF
What
we
were
all
doing,
we've
learned
since
doing
more
research
is,
was
legally
problematic
and
our
City
attorney
can
speak
to
that
in
this
presentation,
and
it
was
also
ineffective.
Essentially,
we
were
kicking
the
can
down
the
road
with
that
that
policy
and
that
way
of
dealing
with
it.
What
we
did
during
covid
followed
the
CDC
guidelines
allowing
encampments
to
stay
in
place
with
the
city
monitoring
as
long
as
they
were
not
in
a
park.
AF
We
altered
that
when
we
found
that
it
really
wasn't
viable
to
have
them
in
parks
and
did
not
pose
a
hazard
to
health
and
safety
and
we've
really
seen
a
proliferation
of
encampments,
which
is
very
concerning
we
did
it
because
you
know
we
didn't
want
people
to
have
to
be
in
congregate,
shelter.
We
were
protecting
the
against
covid,
although
Cove
is
not
over
it's
a
different
day
and
we
need
to
do
something
different.
AF
What
we
do
next
needs
to
address
the
concerns
of
neighbors
and
neighborhoods
the
health
and
safety
of
those
living
in
encampments
and
the
overall
public
health
and
safety
of
all
of
Santa
Fe.
It
will
add
one
of
the
number
one
things
that
I've
heard
at
Coffee,
coffee
with
a
cop
is
you
want
to
make
our
jobs
easier,
solve
homelessness,
want
to
make
that
point,
since
we
just
had
the
police
Workforce
study
anyway.
AF
AU
At
the
Mayors,
with
mayor's
leadership
and
we've
made
a
lot
of
progress
with
that
model,
which
will
tell
you
a
little
bit
more
about
the
goal
of
built
for
zeros
to
end
chronic
and
Veteran
homelessness
and
13
cities
around
the
nation
have
done
that,
and
we
believe
that
we
can
do
that
as
well.
That's
the
ultimate
solution
to
the
problem,
we're
talking
about
here
tonight,
some
background
Madam
clerk.
If
you
would
change
the
slide,
we
joined
Booker
zero
in
2018.
AU
There's
a
link
to
a
website.
I
want
to
thank
and
shout
out
to
our
Community
Partners
at
the
county
and
Quorum
other
foundations
that
we've
been
working
with
in
our
local
built
for
zero
Santa,
Fe,
Housing
Initiative
and
some
of
the
things
that
have
come
out
of
that
work
have
been
that
we
did
launch
consuelas
at
the
Midtown
shelter
in
response
to
covid
I.
Think
our
shelter
director
is
here
tonight.
AU
I
want
to
thank
you
for
being
here
and
all
the
work
you
all
do
there
Santa
Fe
Suites,
which
has
been
a
very
good
way
to
house
a
lot
of
homeless
folks,
as
well
as
precariously
housed,
Workforce
The
Lamplighter
project,
and
these
have
all
provided
shelter
and
housing
options.
The
alternative,
Response
Unit
has
been
mentioned
a
few
times
here
already
tonight.
AU
That
is
a
really
important
project,
along
with
the
mijo
team
from
fire
department,
so
shout
out
to
the
fire
department
for
your
support
for
that
response
and
to
the
fire
department
generally
for
all
the
incredible
work
they've
done
over
the
years
to
support
unsheltered
people
in
a
compassionate
way,
but
we
also
have
our
mobile
hygiene
unit
coming
on
I'm,
very
pleased
to
report
you've
heard
about
that.
We
purchased
that
shower
unit
and
bathroom
unit
with
our
cares
act
money
during
the
pandemic,
and
we
finally
have
the
full
staff
in
the
pipeline
to
be
hired.
AU
So
we're
very
hopeful
that
we'll
have
that
up
and
running
to
help
with
unsheltered
homelessness.
This
summer
we
began
researching
safe
outdoor
spaces
in
the
late
fall
of
2021,
as
we
began
to
see
that
we'd
be
needing
to
change
our
policy
around
encampments
and
what
were
other
communities
doing?
I
want
to
emphasize
that
we've.
S
AV
Encampments,
both
at
quality
of
life
informally
with
conversations
with
constituents
and
in
many
other
venues.
So
a
recommendation
was
made
at
the
quality
of
life
committee
based
on
the
research
and
development
that
was
over
a
six-month
period
to
extend
services
at
Consuelo's,
the
Midtown
temporary
shelter
and
to
use
Midtown
for
a
temporary,
sanctioned
encampment,
and
that's
that
was
a
recommendation
made
to
Quality
of
Life
June
1st,
based
on
the
research,
but
I
again
want
to
emphasize.
AV
No
decisions
have
been
made
about
any
encampment
program
at
this
time,
so
city
council
will
have
an
opportunity
to
vote
on
any
ordinance
changes
related
to
a
sanctioned
encampment
on
contracts
that
come
before
the
body
for
approval
and
then
potentially
on
resolutions
that
could
guide
next
steps.
The
thoughts
of
Direction
you
all
want
to
take
a
very
challenging
issue.
Indeed,
it
involves
our
neighborhood
safety,
our
quality
of
life.
AV
It
affects
every
member
of
our
community
and
we
really
have
no
perfect
solution
here
before
us
today
and
I
want
to
go
to
the
next
slide,
where
we
just
get
a
sense
of
how
many
encampments
there
are
out
there
right
now
and
I
I.
Don't
know
that
I
need
to
tell
anybody
this,
but
I
think
Madam
clerk.
If
you
could
go
to
your
next
slide
and
I'd,
actually
ask
you
in
your
role
as
director
of
constituent
services,
to
give
us
some
an
overview
of
what
you're
seeing.
AV
The
slides
you're
looking
at
right
now
is
our
reported
encampment
city-wide.
As
of
now
we
have
a
regular
View
and
then
I
did
do
a
kind
of
close
close
view,
because
you
can
see
that
in
certain
places
where
it
appears
there's
one
encampment,
there's
actually
multiple
encampments.
One
of
the
reasons
we
included
this
is
to
show
that
we
do
have
encampments
located
across
all
of
the
districts
and
I
will
note
that
in
June
of
2022,
which
we
still
have
one
more
day
left,
we've
received
more
reported
encampments
than
any
other
month.
AO
AO
Thank
you
I'll.
Add
that
Outreach
workers
don't
have
a
firm
number
on
how
many
folks
are
out
there
right
now
upwards
of
150.
When
I
said
we,
we
estimate
150
at
a
Outreach,
meaning
everyone
went
so
with
70,
encampments,
I.
Think
Joe,
who
does
outreach,
says
it's
higher.
So
that's
very
concerning
next
slide.
Please
I
wanted
to
ask
our
City
attorney
if
she
could
give
us
some
context
around
why
the
policy
we
had
prior
to
covid,
which
was
no
camping,
allowed
on
any
city
property
period.
AO
The
end
you
will
need
to
go
is
legally
problematic
and
if
you
could
do
that,
the
City
attorney
I'd
be
very
grateful.
Sure
so
Kira
is
referring
to
a
case
out
of
the
ninth
circuit.
New
Mexico
is
in
the
10th
circuit,
so
we
do
not
have
any
case
law
in
our
circuit
currently,
but
this
is
the
best
case
that
analyzes
this
type
of
a
situation,
and
in
that
case
the
court
decided
in
the
10th
circuits
that's
right
before
the
U.S
Supreme
Court.
AO
We
don't
have
U.S
Supreme
Court
decision
on
this
issue
yet,
but
the
ninth
circuit
is
the
closest
high-level
Court
opinion
we
have
and
they
they
determined
that
the
Boise
ordinance
which
prohibited
camping
outside
on
all
public
property,
was
unconstitutional
under
the
Eighth
Amendment
of
the
U.S
Constitution,
which
is
the
prohibition
on
cruel
and
unusual
punishment.
Basically,
Justified
on
everyone
needs
to
be
able
to
sleep.
If
you
don't
let
someone
sleep
and
you
don't
have
an
alternative
location
for
that
person
to
sleep,
then
that
is
cruel
and
unusual
punishment.
AO
So.
Currently,
the
city's
ordinance
does
prohibit
camping
both
on
Parks
and
all
public
property.
So
this
is
only
an
issue
if
there
is
not
an
alternative
location
for
sleeping.
My
understanding
is
currently
our
shelters
are
full
I'm,
not
sure
that
historically,
that
was
the
case
when
we
did
enforce
our
ordinance.
So
in
terms
of
whether
there.
K
Shelters
prior
to
covid
at
all
times
when
we
did
moot
camps
now,
that
is
not
the
case
is
my
understanding.
Thank
you.
So
really
I
think
people
know
this,
but
it's
not
a
crime
to
be
homeless
and
the
way
we
respond
to
unsheltered
homelessness
can
set
us
up
for
potentially
legal
action.
K
We're
seeing
a
lot
of
cities
facing
those
kinds
of
lawsuits,
not
only
if
they
don't
have
adequate
shelter
beds,
but
if
their
response
is
cruel
in
some
way,
and
so
we've
looked
at
our
policy
currently,
which
does
not
eliminate,
but
it
does
deprioritize
the
cleanup
of
encampments
on
city
property,
not
including
parks,
and
those
are
the
ones
that
don't
pose
a
threat
to
health
safety
or
the
environment
30
feet
from
a
river,
not
okay,
and
you
know
if
there's
fire
danger,
not
okay,
and
if
there's
a
legal
activity
very
much,
not
okay.
K
We
also
do
not
allow,
of
course,
any
camping
on
private
property
and
that's
handled
in
the
same
way.
It's
been
and
separately,
emergency
shelter
does
not,
as
City
attorney
alluded
to
meet
current
need
in
our
city,
Interfaith
or
pizza
place
does
close
to
men
in
the
summer.
So,
as
we
stand
right
now,
there
aren't
enough
beds
to
go
out
and
clear
all
the
encampments.
K
Assuming
we
had
about
what
three
times
the
police
force
that
we
have
as
well
as
the
Midtown
shelter,
which
has
proved
a
really
Innovative
shelter
response
for
people
that
may
not
have
come
into
shelter
previously
or
coming
in,
because
they
have
a
dormitory
style
and
they
don't
have
to
be
in
congregate
and
I
mean
and
the
staff
is
great,
and
there
are
other
reasons
why,
but
they
have
159
people
waiting
right
now,
Saint,
Elizabeth
men's
shelter
and
Casa
Familia
program,
The,
Women's
and
Children's
shelter
are
consistently
at
capacity
as
well
in
the
fall.
K
Pete's
will
have
more
capacity,
that
is
fair
to
say,
and
one
of
the
things
we
need
to
do
if
we
we
are
going
to
continue
to
be
in
a
good
position,
is
have
a
good
way
of
knowing
how
many
beds
are
available
on
any
given
day.
If
we're
telling
somebody
they
can't
camp
in
a
certain
spot,
so
we're
working
on
that
on
the
back
end
as
well.
AC
So
we're
putting
forward
a
short-term
proposal
that
we
establish
a
safe,
supported
area
with
the
community
with
community
housing,
with
rules,
regulations
and
oversight,
and
that
should
be
guided
by
an
experienced
service
provider.
I
always
say
this,
but
during
the
pandemic,
our
amazing
Recreation
and
Library
staff
and
our
amazing
Public
Works
director
led
the
Midtown
shelter
because
we
had
to,
but
we
don't
have
to
now,
and
we
need
to
partner
with
an
expert
to
launched
such
a
such
a
service.
I
want
to
emphasize
also
tonight
that
no
site
has
been
decided
upon.
AC
You
have
considerable
research
on
best
practices,
for
these
encampments
I
believe
folks,
from
Las
Cruces
are
prepared
to
speak
to
you
tonight
during
petitions
from
the
floor
around
how
that
works
down
there
in
Camp
hope,
and
there
have
been
a
lot
of
other
successful,
safe,
sanctioned
encampments
throughout
the
nation
that
we're
guiding
our
recommendations
off
of.
We
did
a
commission
a
report
that
we
presented
back
in
March
to
quality
of
life
on
the
need
for
such
a
program.
AC
The
the
consultant
interviewed
a
lot
of
people
who
are
unsheltered
in
Santa,
Fe
and
and
that's
a
very
good
document
to
look
at
that
report
did
look
initially
at
a
scattered
site
model
where
we'd
have
maybe
four
encampments.
Perhaps
in
the
four
districts
where
we
would,
you
know,
have
Camp
stewards
supporting
those.
Ultimately,
it
was
determined
that
that
wouldn't
be
an
adequate
amount
of
service.
M
O
M
This
there's
no
perfect
site,
but
for
six
months
my
team,
in
coordination
with
public
works
and
and
Public
Safety
and
legal
and
every
other
department
really
in
the
city,
has
been
researching
how
to
how
to
make
a
recommendation
to
you
all
about
what
a
least
bad
site
would
be.
That's,
let's
put
it
that
way.
There
are
criteria
that
can
help
us
evaluate
the
pros
and
cons
and
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
Anna
kale
pandas
for
that
portion.
M
Okay,
so
the
Matrix
that
you're
seeing
on
your
screen
is
kind
of
the
end
result
of
where
we
came
with
a
really
long
and
intensive
process
of
evaluating
a
lot
of
different
sites.
I
worked
really
closely
with
the
parks
department
to
look
at
every
Park
and
open
space
that
could
be
a
viable
option.
I
worked
at
Public
Works
to
identify
other
areas
that
maybe
were
not
Park
spaces,
but
we're
city-owned
properties
that
could
serve
this
purpose.
H
I
AT
I
We
whittled
down
from
over
100
locations,
whittling
down
to
kind
of
what
ended
up
being
sort
of
the
final
five
possible
locations.
AA
I
think
so,
I'll
just
add
one
of
the
major
criteria
was:
do
we
have
a
provider
of
services
for
24
7
oversight,
so
it
would
be
safely
done,
and
that
was
the
main
reason
we
we
looked
at
consuelas.
There
are
a
lot
of
other
factors,
though,
as
Anna
says
and
depending
on
the
timeline.
Oh,
the
other
main
big
big
factor
that
we
were
up
against
was
our
remember.
AA
Our
fire
danger
it's
hard
to
remember
now,
with
all
the
rains
we've
had,
but
that
was
really
motivating
a
quick
decision,
a
quick
timeline
and
for
the
two
reasons
of
a
quicker
timeline
and
the
robust
service
provision
we
looked,
we
did
recommend
Consuelos
at
in
early
June.
There
are
other
options
depending
on
the
timeline
that
we
want
to
adopt
for
sure
next
slide.
Please.
AA
A
couple
that
kind
of
we
sort
of
landed
on
as
final
options
were
ice
fishing
temps
that
are
they've
been
used
in
Alaska
they've
been
used
in
Colorado
for
this
purpose
of
having
sanctioned
in
Camp,
encampments
and
they're
a
more
affordable
option.
They
require
less
infrastructure
they're,
not
as
durable.
They
tend
to
break
down
within
a
year
of
use,
so
they
have
to
be
replaced
more
often
and
that's
kind
of
more
of
an
ongoing
cost.
AA
We
also
looked
at
this
company
called
pallet
shelters,
which
is
they
they're
produced,
delivered
and
set
up
by
people
who
are
formerly
homeless,
and
they
are
much
more
resilient
to
wear
and
tear
at
the
elements
and
safer
in
terms
of.
AW
There
is
a
bit
higher
cost
on
those,
and
the
infrastructure
needs
to
get
them
set
up
is
a
little
bit
more
intensive,
but
again
they're
more
durable,
they're
more
resilient.
They
last
they
have
10
year
warranty
thanks.
So
the
next
slide,
please
I
want
to
come
back
to
what
I
talked
about
at
the
beginning
about
the
real
longer
term.
Solution
to
this
really
there's
a
need
for
the
for
housing
options
that
will
meet
people
where
they
are.
That
will
provide
the
kinds
of
supports
they
need
to
succeed
in
housing
and
they're.
AW
Amazing
providers
already
doing
this
in
our
community
from
Saint
Elizabeth
shelter
that
took
on
the
Santa
Fe
Suites
to
a
wonderful
custom,
Allegro
that
helps
people
with
severe
mental
illness
in
a
group
home
setting,
LifeLink,
of
course,
in
La,
Luz
and
I
hope,
I'm,
not
leaving
out
and
I'm
sure
I'm
leaving
out
other
wonderful
options.
But
we
need
more,
especially
with
this
many
people
out
there,
and
many
of
them
are
suffering
from
mental
health
and
substance
use
problems.
Not
all
of
them
are
and
I
want
to
emphasize
that
as
well.
AW
So
what
we
really
have
done
in
acquiring
and
converting
motels
like
Santa,
Fe,
Suites
and
Lamplighter
I
want
to
emphasize
too
that
you
know
this
is
a
model
in
which
people
with
those
kinds
of
needs
are
living
with
people
who
are
working
in
our
service
industry,
working
in
our
schools,
working
in
our
Supportive
Services
industry
and
that
works
for
some
people.
But
if
we
look
at
the
hardest
to
house
folks,
we're.
H
Really
going
to
have
to
think
about
an
option
that
might
include
an
array
of
services.
AS
AX
For
various
reasons,
it
might
include
an
option
for
a
congregate
shelter,
it
might
include
dormitory
style
shelter
and
we
really
need
and
are
doing
that
with
our
built
for
zero
group.
Looking
at
that
long-term
approach,
it'll
require
choosing
a
site
as
well,
and
that
won't
be
easy
either,
but
we're
working
very
intensively
on
that
long-term
solution
and
have
been
and
will
continue
to
do
so,
whether
or
not
we're
able
to
come
up
with
a
short-term
solution.
AX
Oh,
it's
your
last
slide.
Okay.
Well,
then,
I'll
just
tell
you
what
the
last
slide
that
I
had
is
you
don't
have
a
slide
called
policy
decisions?
No
okay!
Well,
let
me
talk
to
you
then
I'll
just
talk
to
you
about
it.
AX
AX
AX
It
is,
you
know,
does
require
that
we
have
adequate
indoor
shelter
to
ask
them
to
move
to
when
we're
telling
them
to
move
the.
The
notice
currently
includes
an
invitation
to
call
2-1-1
to
find
out
where
you
could
get
shelter.
AX
We
have
to
link,
we
have
to
close
that
Loop
and
make
sure
that
people
actually
can
find
shelter
if
we're
offering
that
and
that's
a
little
problematic
it's.
This
is
a
confusing
policy
that
we
currently
have
it's
confusing
for
police.
It's
confusing
for
unsheltered
people,
it's
confusing
for
outreach
workers
and
staff.
Is
this.
Okay
am
I.
Okay
over.
L
I
want
to
say
we
could
also
sponsor
one
more
safe
encounter
one
or
more
in
today's
encampment
sites,
and
really
hone
in
and
decide
to
do
that
that
would
provide
structure,
oversight
and
safety
and,
at
the
same
time
provide
the
basis
for
more
enforcement.
I
really
want
to
emphasize
that
in
this
role
with
community
health
and
safety,
you
know,
I
really
see
it
from
both
sides.
L
If
we
are
spending,
if
we
take
three
years
to
launch
a
sanctioned
encampment
site,
I,
don't
think
it's
worth
going
down
that
road
we'd
be
better
off,
focusing
all
of
our
efforts
on
the
long-term
solution,
so
the
long-term
solution
would
be
to
put
out
an
RFP
for
a
coordinated
Consolidated
site
for
a
new
shelter
and
a
safe
encampment
facility,
potentially,
and
that
again,
if
we
had
enough
units-
and
we
had
people
willing
to
go
inside
may
or
may
not
need
to
include
outdoor
the
camp,
that
would
be
the
longer
term
solution.
L
And
then
you
know
we
should
continue
I
think
to
seek
to
purchase
one
or
more
hotels
or
motels,
or
some
funding
opportunities
out
there
right
now.
That
would
provide
more
housing
like
the
Santa,
Fe,
Suites
and
The
Lamplighter
properties
on
and
require
funding.
L
L
Y
My
way
at
City
Hall
this
afternoon.
G
AY
S
A
tough
topic
with
a
I
think
a
lot
of
truths.
I
That
are
really
hard.
It
is
true
that
we
cannot
keep
doing
what
we're
doing.
I
think
that
that
is
plain
based
on
the
number
of
calls
that
we're
getting
on
the
reports
that
we
are
hearing
from
many
of
our
residents,
both
housed
and
unhoused
of
what
they're
experiencing.
I
It
is
also
true
that
there
have
been
impacts
to
neighborhoods
from
whether
or
not
it
is
individuals
who
are
in
the
shelters
themselves
or
individuals
that
are
drawn
to
the
shelters.
I
think
that.
AZ
Yeah,
you
can
keep
going
okay,
not
to
worry,
apparently,
okay,
that
there
are
individuals
that
are
experiencing
impacts
and
and
how
we
mitigate
those
and
how
we
are
looking
at.
Those
are
important.
I
I
have
a
number
of
questions
that
I
do
not
know
if
you'll
have
the
answer
today
and
I
know
that
this
is
going
to
be
an
ongoing
discussion
about
this.
AZ
One
thing
that
I'm
noticing
based
on
these
Maps
is
really
when
I
look
at
where
the
encampments
are
congregating,
I'm,
saying
probably
an
even
number
in
districts,
two
and
four
Christine.
Would
you
confirm
that
those
are
maybe
a
little
bit
more
in
four,
but
it
looks
pretty
evenly
spread
actually
yeah.
I
And
then
one
we
have
the
least
amount
in
District
three
yeah,
so
I
definitely
saw
that
and-
and
I
am
I
know-
that
the
team
was
doing
a
lot
of
Outreach
for
the
encampments
and
I
am
curious.
Why
I
have
my
ideas?
Why
are
encampments
popping
up
where
they
are?
What
is
it
about
specific
areas
that
are
drawing
individuals
to
where
they
are
setting
up
camp
Mr,
Mayor
Kelso,
cassette
I
would
just
qualify.
We
don't
have
an
Outreach
team
active
right
now
out
of
the
city,
we
have
community-based
Outreach
teams
and
I.
H
H
So
I
do
I'm
sorry
to
interrupt.
I
do
think
that
is
potentially
a
theory
of
why
we
see
fewer
in
District
3,
where
transportation's
harder
things
are
more
spread
out:
perfect
yeah
transportation
and
access
to
public
transportation,
since
most
folks
don't
have
a
car
is
one
of
the
criteria
for
the
site
selection
as
well
right,
absolutely
so,
regarding
some
of
the
conversation
about
the
legal
piece
of
needing
to
have
a
basically
an
alternative
in
order
to
really
enforce
not
camping
on
public
sites,
we
save
150
is
too
low.
H
The
number
is
probably
a
lot
higher,
and
one
of
the
problems
we
have
right
now
is
our
shelters
are
full
if
we
were
to
do
sanction
encampments,
but
only
once
those
get
filled
at
you
know,
50
or
100
or
however
many
there
are
do.
We
then
no
longer
have
the
ability
to
tell
people
they
cannot
camp
on
public
property
because
our
options
are
full
Mr,
Mayor,
counselor,
cassett,
yes,
okay,
so
really
what
I'm
hearing
is
that
large
scale?
H
Mr
Mayor,
counselor
Casa,
yes,
I-
also
think
that
one
of
the
big
features
we
need
is
just
better
data,
real-time
data-
and
that
is
what
built
for
xero
has
emphasized
for
us.
A
real
understanding
of
who
these
folks
are.
Many
of
the
people
who
do
Outreach
have
relationships
with
people
know
them
by
name,
but
we
don't
know
everybody,
and
we
don't
know,
are
they
in
Santa
Fe
for
a
few
weeks?
Are
they
born
and
raised
here?
H
If
we
were
doing
something
similar
as
we
enforce
the
no
camping
on
city
property,
we
would
really
have
to
have
again
a
mechanism
to
say
hey
how
many
beds
are
at
Pete's
tonight.
Okay,
well,
you
can
go
to
that
would
be
ideal
and
people
might
say:
I
don't
want
to
go
to
pizza
and
we'd
say
you
have
to
move.
H
So
that's
what
that
would
look
like,
but
we
have
to
be
able
really
to
have
that
information.
As
my
understanding
to
be
perfectly
in
line
with
the
legal
recommendations.
H
When
we're
looking
at
creating
that
system,
I
know
Albuquerque
is
they
also
are
completely
really
struggling
with
this
issue
at
capacity
everywhere
that
they
have
have
we
been
looking
at
kind
of
some
Regional
Partnerships?
You
know
the
county
built
a
shelter
close
to
Espanola
still
in
Santa
Fe
county,
but
on
the
border
of
Rio
Arriba,
discussing
with
Espanola
with
Taos,
with
some
of
the
other
areas
close
by
how
there
might
be
a
coordinated
system
regionally,
as
we
start
to
look
at
these
different
options
for
beds,
Yeah
Anna.
H
H
Thank
you.
So
there
is
some
Regional
effort
to
kind
of
coordinate.
It's
a
little
tricky
and
covid
has
thrown
a
massive
wrench
into
that
system.
You
know,
pre-covered,
we
knew
pretty
pretty
well
sort
of
which
shelters
in
which
areas
of
the
state,
particularly
in
Northern
New
Mexico,
were
opening
up
for
the
season.
Many
of
them
were
seasonal,
so
there
would
only
be
winter
shelters,
for
example,
in
San
Miguel
County
in
Taos
and
now
with
covid.
H
That's
just
so
much
more
complicated
right,
they're
facing
the
same
Staffing
challenges
that
everyone
is
they're
facing
the
same
sort
of
public
health
challenges.
So
it's
it's
more
complicated,
but
there
is
an
effort
and
that's
I,
think
kind
of
part
of
where
this
it
just
adds
to
the
complexity
of
what
we're
trying
to
work
on
here
is
that
we
know
that
the
population
of
unsheltered
people
in
Santa
Fe
changes
a
little
bit
depending
on
the
time
of
year.
Based
on
these
other
factors
around
the
state,
including
Albuquerque.
H
And
I
Staffing
issue
is
similar.
How
about
capacity
issues?
Are
we
saying
the
same
thing?
Statewide?
Okay,
yes,
not
surprised,
but
disappointed
nonetheless,
and
then
in
terms
of
what's
going
on
regionally
here
how
about
the?
What
is
the
County's
involvement
with
working
on
this
problem
within
Santa
Fe?
H
The
county
has
been
a
partner
with
us
and
built
for
zero
since
the
outset
on
the
long-term
solution
we're
talking
about
you
know,
probably
ever
since
2019,
we
started
having
those
conversations
early,
2019
and
you
know
they
are
looking
along
with
so
that
their
County
Housing
Authority,
their
Community
Services
Department,
are
all
involved.
They
purchased
some
of
their
arpa
funds
toward
the
Lamplighter
project
and
our
all
Partners
in
in
envisioning
a
long-term
solution-
and
you
know
the
hardest
thing
with
all
of
this
is
where,
where
right.
H
Tell
you
right
now:
nowhere
is
the
answer
that
you
know
comes
out
when
you
try
to
do
this,
so
it
becomes
this
Catch-22,
but
they
are
they're
at
the
table
with
us.
They
are
very
interested
because
of
their
jail
population
in
you
know,
Alternatives.
They
see
a
lot
of
people
cycling
in
and
out,
because
they're
unhoused
and
don't
have
proper
supports
and
that's
possibly
for
them
as
well
right,
I
guess.
This
leads
well
follow-up
question
real,
quick
with
the
county,
and
then
this
actually
leads
really
well
into
some
other
areas.
H
They
do
receive
funding
from
the
state
for
mental
health,
correct
the
county,
Mr
Mayor,
councilor
Casa.
They
do
not
receive
funding
for
the
state
for
mental
health,
that
I'm
aware
of
I'm
speaking
as
a
former
County
employee
and
if
I'm
speaking
wrong,
I'm
sorry
they
do
have
a
dedicated
Revenue
source
for
Behavioral
Health
that
their
commission
very
forwardly
identified
and
so
they've
opened
the
crisis
center
la
sala
crisis
center,
which
is
a
great
partner
for
our
alternative,
Response
Unit.
Where
do
you
bring
people
in
crisis?
H
You
bring
them
to
this
County,
funded
Center
or
now
on
Dallas
Street?
Now
it's
been
very
impactful
and
effective
and
they
put
in
millions
of
dollars
annually
into
Behavioral,
Health
Solutions
and
supports
sometimes
to
innovate
and
start
a
program
that
could
be
later
funded
by
Medicaid
dollars
or
other
State
bhsd
dollars.
I
see.
Okay.
H
So
that's
probably
the
the
mechanism
that
I'm
thinking
of
thank
you
for
clarifying
that
back
to
your
conversation
on
the
question
of
where
I
think
the
main
thing
that
I've
really
heard
from
my
constituents,
a
neighboring
businesses
has
to
do
with
the
mitigation
strategies
for
impacts
of
of
a
shelter
or
an
encampment
in
their
area
and
I
believe
that
there
are.
There
are
different
populations
that
we're
working
with.
H
So
there's
frequently
the
individuals
that
are
living
in
the
shelter-
and
you
know
we
had
this
conversation
with
peeps
when
we
were
renewing
the
lease
about
the
individuals
who
are
actually
staying
at
the
shelter
and
utilizing
the
services,
as
well
as
those
who
are
drawn
to
the
area
because
of
the
shelter's
presence
and
those
are
those
are
two
different
populations
and
I.
H
I
would
like
to
hear
more
about
that
mitigation
strategy,
for
the
impacts
that
that
population
could
have
for
anywhere
that
there's
an
encampment,
because
I
think
that
that's
kind
of
the
other
piece
of
this
is
that
create
enough
beds,
we're
able
to
tell
people
they
can't
camp.
We
find
places
that
they
can
be,
but
but
there
still
is
this
potential
that
we
really
need
to
do
a
very
good
job
of
creating
a
plan
for
how
we
deal
with
that
for
kind
of
Bad
actors
who
may
be
showing
up
there.
H
H
How
do
we
address
that
because
I
think
that's
a
key
piece
of
this
Mr
Mayor
counselor
castle?
That's
a
great
question,
I
think
actually
looking
to
what's
happened
recently
with
Pete's
and
the
partnership
between
Pete's
and
the
police
department.
Of
course,
things
are
not
perfect
on
Harrison
Road
now
or
in
the
neighborhood,
but
they're
a
lot
better.
I
think
we
I
think
you
can
see
that
going
by
and
how
did
that
happen?
H
It
happened
with
a
combination
of
policy
change
at
Interfaith,
where
there
was
a
stricter
policy
around
allowing
folks
that
weren't,
really
using
the
shelter
to
be
on
premises
and
and
be
around
the
premises
and
really
close
coordination
with
our
Police
Department
gives
a
shout
out
to
Sergeant
Amanda
montagno,
who
tirelessly
worked
this
with
Ed
of
interfaith
Karina
Lopez,
and
it's
an
ongoing
effort
to
really
communicate
collaborate
and
make
a
no-go
Zone
around
these
places
and
I
think
that
it
can
be
done.
It's
not
ever
a
perfect
situation.
H
The
other
point
is
that
you
know
not
not
having
having
unsanctioned
encampments
is
unsafe
as
well.
So
it's
it's
just
that
finding
that
balance
and
investing
in
security
investing
in
private
security,
investing
in
a
sense
of
ownership
from
the
people
who
are
living
in
the
shelter.
H
We
saw
a
similar
phenomenon
at
Consuelo's
place
when
we
opened
in
the
beginning,
and
it's
much
less
of
an
issue
now
I
think
there
are
many
people
in
the
neighborhood
who
aren't
even
aware
that
we've
had
a
emergency
shelter
on
the
Midtown
campus,
for
example,
for
a
couple
of
years
now,
because
they're
they're
those
people
staying
in
the
shelter,
not
necessarily
attracting,
because
staff
is
drawing
a
hard
line
because
there's
close
coordination
with
Public,
Safety
and
Security,
and
that's
what
just
has
to
keep
happening
and
to
make
sure
these
problems
don't
get
out
of
hand.
H
Yeah
I
think
that's
one
of
the
challenging
things
right
now
with
Consuelos
is
because
there
are
so
many
sanctioned
or
unsanctioned
encampments
I
almost
wish.
We
had
a
different
word
than
encampments,
because
I
think
it
does
get
confusing
that
we're
utilizing
the
same
verbiage
for
something
that's
very
different.
H
When
I
was
speaking
with
a
constituent
today
and
I
said,
you
know
we're
not
talking
Skid
Row
in
LA
or
the
tent
cities
that
have
popped
up
in
a
lot
of
cities
that
they've
just
kind
of
given
up
and
let
them
take
over.
It's
a
it's.
H
A
very
different
model,
which
I
think
is
important,
that
there
is
a
lot
of
confusion
there,
but
when
I
have
been
speaking
to
some
business
owners
around
Midtown,
we're
consolidoses
of
forests
and
some
members
of
the
neighborhood
I
I
think
that
there
probably
is
a
difference
of
the
individuals
that
they're
having
a
hard
time
with
that
are
more
likely
to
be
either
somebody
in
an
unsanctioned
encampment
or
maybe
just
a
bad
actor
who's,
not
necessarily
experiencing
homelessness.
H
We
do
have
information
or
we
have
you
know.
We
know
the
individuals
that
are
staying
at
Consuelo,
so
if
they
have
any
run-ins
with
the
law
or
a
business
calls
PD,
and
it
is
this
individual
who
maybe
is
loitering
or
you
know
doing
something
out
of
business
is
Consuelo's
notified
about
that
occurring?
H
Replace
they
do
give
us
a
call
if
the
client
lets
them
know
that
that's
where
they're
staying,
we
also
don't
require
that
they
leave
sorry.
Thank
you.
We
also
don't
require
that
they're
gone
from
the
shelter
during
the
day
and
that
helped
a
lot
with
not
having
people
wandering
around
right.
I
know.
That's
a
huge
issue
is
that,
if,
when
shelters
are
closed
during
the
day
that
people
don't
have
a
place
to
go
with,
these
proposed
encampments
be
open
during
the
day.
H
Yes,
that's
that's
a
big
part
of
it
and
really
the
way
we
had
envisioned.
This
is
and
thank
you
for
mentioning
the
nomenclature.
You
know
it's
a
safe
outdoor
space,
it's
a
safe
outdoor
shelter
really.
H
So
it's
an
extension
of
an
emergency
shelter
is
the
is
the
Envision
proposal
and
it's
different
than
an
encampment
in
that
sense,
certainly,
if
we
went
with
the
the
pallet
shelters,
it's
almost
like
a
tiny
home
Village,
that's
temporary,
so
that
people
have
a
place
to
be,
which
means
that
they're
less
you
know
likely
to
be
out
and
about
throughout
the
community
as
we
are
currently
seeing.
We
also
don't
have
adequate
day
services
in
Santa
Fe,
which
impacts
that
the
library's
have
served.
H
That
purpose
and
we
all
are
looking
at
that
Gap
as
well.
Okay,
yeah!
That's
thank
you
for
bringing
that
up.
Where
is
the
line
I?
You
know
we,
we
frequently
kind
of
completely
agree.
You
know
I'm
in
no
way
suggesting
that
we
should
make
homelessness
a
crime.
Where
is
the
line
for
for
police?
And
maybe
maybe
this
is
if
Chief
is
still
here
when
I've
spoken
to
some
business
partner
or
business
businesses
in
the
area,
they
were
having
discussions
about
people
threatening
either
business
owners
or
patrons
they
haven't
touched
them.
H
They
haven't
actually
done
anything
physical,
but
they're,
feeling
unsafe
defecating
in
the
area
there's
been
when
there
is
I.
Think
this
one's
a
little
bit
more
clear,
but
any
shoplifting
so
I
am
you
know?
Where
does
that
line
exist?
You
know
when,
when
we
do
get
to
this
point
of
somebody's
threatened,
but
they
haven't
actually
committed
a
crime.
How
does
law
enforcement
work
in
this
Arena?
Thank
you.
Dc
Valdez.
H
H
If
the
person
is
suffering
from
mental
illness
or
some
type
of
crisis
situation,
sometimes
it
is
appropriate
to
say
hey,
let's
get
them
along
with
Services
first
and
then
we
can
see
if
there
is
something
I
need
to
charge,
but
in
those
situations
we
try
to
mitigate
the
risk
to
both
the
property
owner
or
the
business
operator
and
the
individual.
That's
in
crisis
we're
trying
to
approach
in
a
compassionate
way.
H
Russia.
We
see
as
if
you
approach
it
just
from
a
criminal
approach
and
say
hey
that
is
Criminal.
Let's
send
them
to
jail,
do
this
or
that
they
don't
get
the
assistance
that
they
need,
and
you
don't
understand
the
additional
trauma
that
they're
going
to
be
going
through.
So
we
try
to
approach
it
in
a
compassionate
way,
but
also
understanding
like
how
can
we
problem
solve
this
and
that's
where
we
really
rely
on
our
partners
in
the
community
either
at
the
interface
shelter
or
through
consolid
place
to
see?
H
Is
there
some
way
that
we
can
replace
them
once
they
get
released
from
the
hospital
or
once
you
resolve
the
situation,
so
they
can
start
getting
services.
So
we
can
try
to
limit
these
types
of
interactions
in
the
future,
but
there's
such
a
great
need
with
individuals
that
are
in
the
situations
that
we
need.
H
Resources
such
as
the
ones
I
talked
about
here
today,
to
provide
that
sense
of
security,
sometimes
they're,
just
looking
for
a
safe
place
to
sleep
or
just
to
be
because
you
know
they're
facing
challenges
that
we
can't
even
imagine,
but
we
try
to
do
in
a
crash
that
way,
but
also
understanding
that
both
what
both
sides
of
the
party
going
through
and
for
us
we
are
held
by
our
oath
to
serve
both.
We
don't
just
say:
well,
you're
a
property
owner.
We
thought
you're
done
wrong,
so
we're
going
to
coach
in
this
manner.
H
You
know
prevent
this
from
happening,
but
at
the
heart
rate
is
doing
an
compassionate
way,
we're
not
going
to
be
heavy-handed,
but
in
some
instance,
if
it
is
a
genuine
criminal
act
and
at
that
point
then
we
have
to
take
action,
it
may
be
charges
and
maybe
an
arrest
depending
on
what
the
severity
of
that
offense
is,
and
especially
if
it's
something
where
it
is
a
violent
act
or
someone
is
threatened
with
being
immediately
battered
or
if
they
have
or
if
they
have
been
injured.
H
We
are
going
to
take
committed
action
and
deal
with
it
from
that
perspective
and
then
we'll
have
to
go
to
the
courses
or
to
identify
what
resource
can
be
brought
to
Bears
of
that
process
to
get
them
the
assistance
they
need.
I
think
the
City
attorney
has
some
also
advice.
However,
counselor
I
do
want
to
add
on
the
immediate
threat
of
credible.
A
credible
threat
of
battery
is
a
crime,
so
threats
can
be
crimes
just
didn't
want
to
put
the
line
between
threat
and
crime.
H
Thank
you
I
appreciate
that,
because
I
had
heard
from
thank
you
for
clarifying,
because
when
I've
spoken
to
property
or
a
business
owner
today,
they
were
saying
that,
like
they
had
been
threatened,
but
a
crime
hadn't
existed
because
nothing
happened,
and
so
that's
where
I
got
concerned
about
that
line.
So
thank
you
for
clarifying.
I
That
I
appreciate
it
when
we're
looking
at
this
long-term
solution
and
putting
out
an
RFP
both
the
the
the
realistic
timeline
for
that
I
know
that
we
have
our
ideal
timeline.
But
realistically
what
does
it
look
like
to
get
something
like
that
stood
up.
H
Well,
I
think
we'd,
look
at
the
next
budget
cycle,
potentially
so
we'd
look
at
fiscal
year
24.
H
unless
we
used
the
money
that
has
been
allocated
for
our
temporary
solution
through
arpa
this
year,
which
we
could
do.
I
think
that
the
funder
collaboration
which
is
called
S3
is
the
initial.
The
abbreviation
for
the
behavioral
health
initiative
is
looking
at
that
right
now.
You
know
It's
tricky,
because
you
know
some
have
said
we'll
go
out
for
an
RFP
that
would
include
looking
at
various
sites.
Now
most
most
service
providers
are
not.
AI
AI
From
the
RFP
process
itself,
but
I
mean
you
know,
with
the
help
of
our
I'll,
give
another
shout
out
to
Fran
Dunaway
our
procurement
awesome
director
manager,
who
can.
H
Expedite
things
very
quickly,
when
we
decide
to
do
that,
you
know
it
could
be
a
year-long
process
with
an
RFP
once
funds
are
identified
and
once
a
site
is
identified.
BA
AW
The
beginning
that
this
isn't
working
for
the
individuals
on
the
streets,
not
working
for
staff,
it's
really
not
working
for
constituents
for
members
of
our
community
I.
Think
that
how
we
look
at
these
at
these
proposals
is
going
to
be
really
important
and
having
these
really
spelled
out
for
the
community
about
what
do
the
mitigation
strategies
look
like
if
we
do,
if
they
do
experience
negative
impacts?
If
there
is
an
encampment
close
by
who
are
they
going
to
contact?
What
can
they
expect
from
us?
AW
Where
are
we
going
to
be
measuring
ourselves
against
what
that
should
be?
Looking
like
I
know
in
the
quality
of
life
presentation,
there
was
a
slide
about
what
does
success.
Look
like
and
I
think
that
that
was
really
helpful
to
have
those
measurements
about
the
reports
of
encampments
in
the
community.
I
also
think
you
know
we
haven't
heard
from
them
in
a
while,
but
there
was
the
I'm
going
to
get
the
name
and
correct
with
the
drug
task
force
the
municipal
drug
policy
task
force.
AW
Thank
you
thank
you,
and
it
really
does
feel
like
there's
their
parallels
here
that
very
much
need
to
be
integrated
in,
as
we
know
that
substance
addiction,
substance
abuse,
is.
AW
So
I
appreciate
for
you
bringing
forward
the
conversation
I'm
glad
that
there
will
be
more
conversations
about
this
and
opportunities
to
to
talk
about
some
of
the
larger
concerns
that
the
community
has
and
for
us
to
be
able
to
put
forward.
H
Strategies
of
how
those
concerns
can
be
addressed
by
the
city,
because,
again
I
think
that
there's
a
lot
of
Truth
in
the
in
this
Arena
that
encampments
can
both
really
help
the
problem
and.
BB
H
H
Thank
you,
counselor
others,
Council
River,.
I
T
I
H
Councilor
Rivera,
thank
you
for
that
question.
Yes,
the
March
13th
presentation
to
Quality
of
Life
included
the
very
extensive
report
done
by
Saint,
Francis
homelessness,
Challenge
and
that
group
went
out
and
did
extensive
interviews
focus.
AW
Groups
with
people
living
out
of
doors
to
ask,
would
you
be
interested
in
something
like
this
absolutely
first
principles:
question
the
answer
was
resoundingly
yes.
The
next
question
was
you
know
they
asked
about.
Are
you
from
Santa
Fe
resoundingly?
Yes
on
that
for
the
focus
group
there
and
also
would
you
be
willing
to
follow
these
rules
and
the
answer
to
that?
That
question
was
also
yes,
okay,
thank
you
think
it
was
Miss
kale
that
talked
about
looking
at
sites
that
weren't
near
schools.
However,
Midtown
has
the
old
DE,
Vargas
Junior,
High
School
de.
H
AW
Mayor
Weber,
councilor,
Rivera
I
think
we
we
had
to
think
a
little
bit
of
using
a
sort
of
loose
definition
of
proximity.
You
know
right
next
door,
for
example,
was
probably
not
as
much
an
option.
One
site
that
we
looked
at
was
Franklin
miles.
H
I
Think
for
what
would
have
felt
comfortable
what
separates
El
Milagro.
S
AA
Rivera
I.
K
Hand
but.
I
It's
there's
a
there's,
a
site,
there's.
H
A
you
know,
enclosed
area
around
Midtown
and
then
there's
one
road.
That's.
I
A
bus,
the
Midtown
campus
I
believe
that
goes
up
past
Milagro
up
to
Santa
Fe
High.
Is
that
yanu
or
is
that
Yucca
or
help
me
people.
H
Lastly,
as
part
of
this
process,.
P
H
H
We
take
direction
from
the
Council
on
that
you
know
there
are
decision,
points
that
need
to
be
made
to
even
decide,
yay
or
nay,
on
a
temporary
solution.
I.
E
G
E
Of
that,
these
would
be
more
like
an
En
process
and
I'm
a
little
out
of
my
depth.
Talking
about
that
process,
but
more
of
an
education
process,
don't
even
go
there.
I
messed
it
up.
I'm.
Sorry,
sorry.
BB
Has
has
been
made
about
the
site,
so
are
there
going
to
be
meetings
prior
to
any
decisions
being
made
so
that
neighborhoods
can
give
input
on
the
sites
that
we're
thinking
about
Mr,
mayor
council
Rivera?
We
don't
Envision
that,
but
could
do
that.
I
think
what
we
find
is
that
the
answer
will
be
no
nowhere
near
me,
I
mean
just
being
honest,
and
so
it's
a
lot
of
labor
intensive
to
hear
that,
and
maybe
we
we
did
look
at
you
know
we
have
the
Matrix
and
now
it's
public.
BB
We
wanted
to
look
at
some
kind
of
process
where
people
could
weigh
in
on
those
different
sites
and
maybe
give
comments.
Maybe
that's
something
we
could
do
we're
open
to
suggestion
and
direction
from
the
governing
body
on
that
forever.
Yeah,
whether
we
like
the
answers
or
not
I,
think
Public's
deserving
of
being
able
to
give
their
responses,
so
that
would
be
a
recommendation
that
I
would
have
and
how
we
do
it.
BB
You
know
we
can
figure
out
different
ways,
but
I
think
that
the
public
needs
their
time
to
be
heard
agreed
and
thank
you.
We
also
have
I
know
petitions
from
the
floor
coming
up
or
some
people
may
be
waiting
for
and
that's
another
opportunity
in
these.
F
H
E
For
people
to
give
in
to
it
right,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
mayor.
Thank
you.
Counselor
councilor,
Garcia,.
H
E
E
So
with
that
being
said,
what
are
the
next
steps
if
that
way,
the
Public's
well
aware
of
where
how
we're
moving
forward
with
this
Mr
Mayor
councilor
Garcia
I
think
that
the
next
steps
would
be
to
decide
on
the
policy
Direction,
and
that
would
be
something
for
this
governing
body
to
do.
Is
it?
Do
we
want
to
do
nothing?
Do
we
want
to
do
something
different?
Do
we
want
to
do?
E
We
want
a
temporary,
safe,
open
space
encampment
here
in
Santa,
Fe,
so
I
think
there
has
to
be
a
decision
point
on
that
for
it
to
be
meaningful
for
staff.
As
as
Anna
mentioned,
it's
been
a
six-month
plus
period,
and
you
know
if
we're
gonna
be
asked
to
do
that.
We
would
like
to
know
that
this
is
a
direction
the
governing
body
wants
to
take,
and
so
I
think
that
would
be
a
next
step,
whether
that's
by
resolution
or
some
other
mechanism.
E
E
I
think
the
reason
that
the
presentation
ended
where
it
ended,
which
is
in
a
series
of
questions
to
us,
was
that
the
issues
that
have
been
raised
about
how
long
it
would
take
to
do
an
RFP
or
to
move
forward
with
a
site
with
safe
encampment
depends
entirely
on
the
governing
body.
It
becomes
an
issue
not
of
can
we
put
out
an
RFP,
but
are
we
prepared
to
implement
an
RFP
and
do
we
have
the
not
just
the
funding,
because
at
the
moment
there
is
some
money
available
to
set
up
on
a
site.
A
A
A
You
know
in
most
cities,
if
you
said
to
the
community,
we
have
a
waiting
list
of
150
people
who
need
housing.
They
would
say
we
can
do
that
150
in
most
cities
that
I'm
seeing
around
the
country
where
the
homelessness
issue-
and
it
is
in
every
city
150-
is
a
doable
number.
It's
a
little
bit
more
than
Santa
Fe
Suites
Santa
Fe
Suites
is
about
130..
A
H
Director
choa
said
earlier
is
we
need
better
data,
I
think
Sam.
When
we're
asking
Sam
the
number
of
150,
we
need
to
get
clarification
on
150
because
I,
my
my
gut
reaction,
says
that's
very
low
I,
don't
know
if
Sam
could
give
a
his
response,
but
I
mean
I.
Think
it's
one
of
those
numbers.
That's
just
transitional.
We're
never
going
to
be
able
to
nail
it
down
a
specific
number,
but
150
is
very
low
estimate,
in
my
opinion,
and
and
Sam
kind
of
concurred
that,
by
his
basis
that
that
was
low.
H
H
Nobody's
going
to
agree
on
what
happens,
100
percent,
but
how
can
we
move
forward
and
allowing
the
public
to
provide
their
input
as
councilor
Rivera,
whether
we
want
to
hear
it
or
whether
we
don't?
We
owe
that
to
the
public,
especially
when
we're
taking
public
funds
to
support
whatever
it
is
we're
going
to
move
forward
with
so
I
think
we
we
need
to
that's
the.
E
Next
step
we
need
to
have
if,
whether
it's
in
every
District
or
Citywide,
we
need
to
have
some
type
of
community
engagement
process
put
out.
The
Matrix
are
those
five
sites,
the
universe
or
there
are
others
around
I'm
sure
the
community
can
come
up
with
their
own
suggested
sites
that
are
outside
that
Universe
it'd
be
interesting
to
see
where
folks
would
propose
sites
and
and
then
we
can
take
that
information
and
hopefully
be
able
to
move
forward.
E
Thinking
Midtown
is
where
it's
at
we're
going
and
now,
let's
wait,
that's
not
what
happened
and
it's
kind
of
what
happened
with
the
process
of
one
site
per
District,
which
was
proposed
at
first
and
it's
just
the
changing
and
I
think
that's
where
the
public
needs
to
be
well
aware
of
the
path
the
city
is
planning
and
engaging
the
community
and-
and
that
is
the
biggest
part-
that's
missing
right
now
is
the
engagement
of
the
community
engagement
of
the
everybody,
whether
you're,
a
neighbor
or
not.
We've
got
some.
A
Some
folks
in
our
community
that
can
bring
valuable
experiences
and
and
and
their
history
to
add
value
to
the
process.
I,
don't
see
that
as
a
negative
I
see
it
as
a
positive.
So,
with
that
being
said,
director
chocolate,
we've.
A
I
This
with
that
I
guess
lots
of
other
questions
you
and
I
can
have
offline
director.
H
Ochoa
but
I
do
want
to
thank
you
and
Miss
kale
for
the
presentation.
This
is
a
issue
that
is
not
new
to
our
city
and
it
is
an
issue
that
we
need
to
begin
to
address
and.
I
M
I
Of
questions,
thank
you,
mayor
just
want
to
back
up
a
little
bit,
we
haven't
talked
very
much.
I
Thanks
for
the
question,
so
you
know
if
the
constituent.
P
H
That's
illegal
at
that
point.
Police
will
respond
again
as.
I
A
priority
in
relation
to
their
priority
calls
for
service
and
notification
will
be
given
if
that
person
is
still
there
and
the
camp
will
be
basically
just
allow
them.
That
person
will
be
removed
the
second
day,
if
they're,
not
if
they
haven't
left
there
is
time
given
to
have
the
person
move
and
then
there's
follow-up.
That's
this
is
the
ideal
protocol
and.
H
H
So
that
is
what
we
do
in
relation
to
private
property.
Sometimes
when
people
call
they
don't
know
whether
it's
private
or
public
property,
and
so
they
might
make
a
complaint
to.
BC
Okay,
chief
Joy
is
walking
towards
the
mic.
I
don't
know
if
he
wanted
to
add
anything,
but
certainly
want
to
give
him
the
opportunity.
BC
That's
what
makes
myself
available
as
well
director
Joe's
said
it
very
eloquently
but
yeah.
So
the
key
part
of
the
Criminal
Trespass
is
the
person.
Trespassing
has
to
know
that
they're,
trespassing
and.
AE
To
be
on
that
property
is,
is
not
allowed
in
revoked,
that's
how
the
ordinance
reads
and
so
yeah
we
get
notification
of
a
property.
On
our
end,
we
need
to
know
who
that
owner
is
we'll
re.
Do
our
best
between
us
and
constituent
services
to
try
to
identify
again
the
owner,
make
contact
with
the
owner.
Hey.
You
have
people
on
your
property.
Do
you
want
these
people
on
your
property?
No
I,
don't
get
them
out
awesome.
We
will
do
that.
AE
We
make
notification
of
these
folks
hey,
you
aren't
allowed
to
be
on
the
property
we
spoke
with
the
owner
and
you
need
to
vacate
okay
and
and
then
at
that
point,
sometimes
it's
confusing
right.
We
don't
you
know
it's
a
it's
a
vacant
lot
and
it
takes
a
little
digging
to
figure
out
who
owns
it,
whether
it's
private
or
or
another
governmental
entity,
even
that's
correct,
yeah
and
in
terms
of
if
it
is
another
governmental
entity,
then
what
happens
then
again
it
depends
on
the
government
entity.
AE
So
again
we
have
to
it's
who
owns
that
property
and
We
Know
It
Make
That
notification
to
the
property
owner
that
that
owner
whomever
it
is
whatever
entity
is
the
entity
that
rescinds
permission
for
us
to
have
those
books
there
yeah?
Okay,
thank
you,
I.
Think
one
of
the
things
that
I've
noticed
in
the
conversations
I've
had
the
phone
calls
I've
gotten
the
emails
I
get
is
that
this
is
an
area
where
we
have
where
we
see
a
lot
of
bias.
AE
I
think
a
lot
of
preconceived
ideas,
a
lot
of
stereotypes
about
homeless
people-
things
like
you
know
they
don't
want
to
be
housed.
You
know
I
think
it's
true.
Many
of
them
do
have
behavioral
health
issues.
So
that's
so
some
of
these
things
some
of
these
biases
some
of
these
assumptions.
Some
of
these
stereotypes
are
true
and
some
are
not,
and
so
I
guess.
My
question
is-
and
you
touched
on
this
a
little
bit
director.
Ochoa
is
what
do
we
know
about
the
homeless
population
in
Santa
Fe?
AE
Besides
the
numbers
you
mentioned
that
the
the
the
case
study
that
was
done,
the
focus
group
was
done
that
many
of
them
are
from
Santa
Fe
and
you
know,
because
we
also
hear
oh
Albuquerque's
shipping
them
up
they're,
giving
them
a
train
ticket
or
you
know,
or
if
we
be
nice
to
them
everybody's,
going
to
come
here,
and
you
hear
that
everywhere,
I
mean
I,
read
newspapers
in
other
communities
that
are
struggling
with
this
and
you
you
see
that
in
the
news
reports
that
you
know,
people
come
in
front
of
bodies
like
this
and
say
you're
going
to
be
nice
to
them,
then
you're
going
to
attract
more
I
mean
those
those
are
common
themes
and
I.
AE
Just
wonder
you
know
what
else
can
you
tell
us
about
what
you
know
about
the
population
in
our
city?
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
councilor,
remember
for
that
question.
Complex
question,
I.
Think,
first
of
all,
I'd
just
like
to
say
that
Homeless
is
not
a
a
category
of
person,
it's
a
state
of
not
having
a
house.
AE
So
that's
what
we
know
fundamentally,
not
to
be
you
know
glib,
but
homeless.
People
are
people
who
don't
have
a
house:
I
have
homeless
people
working
in
my
department,
I
have
homeless,
people
who
live
in
their
cars,
I
have
homeless
people
who
shout
loudly
on
the
sidewalks
that
I
know,
and
we
all
know
so.
I
would
say
that
it's
important
to
recognize
that
homeless
people-
maybe
from
here
they
may
not
be
from
here
but
they're,
not
a
category
of
person-
they're
not
they're.
AE
It's
just
homelessness
is
a
state
of
not
being
housed,
and
so
how
do
we
know
who
they
are
or
I'm,
not
the
best
qualified
to
answer
that
to
people
who
work
with
the
populations
are
probably
better
qualified,
but
there
are
a
lot
of
people
who
aren't
coming
in
for
services
who
don't
want
you
to
know?
They're
homeless
I
mean
in
many
ways,
I
think,
there's
a
study
done.
There
were
one
in
seven
Americans
or
one
paycheck
away
from
being
homeless
and
our
connect
program.
AE
We
ask
a
question:
are
you
in
danger
of
losing
your
housing
within
30
days
and
we
have
a
alarmingly
high
number
I?
Don't
have
my
fingertips
of
people
who
are
in
that
state
as
well
and
then
Circle
in
and
out
of
homelessness,
so
I
think
it's
difficult
to
categorize
in
any
one
way
homeless
people,
but
it's
important
to
get
a
handle
on
who
is
out
there
and
who
is
homeless
to
to
come
up
with
an
appropriate
solution.
AE
So
how
many
people
need
Behavioral,
Health
Services
in
the
place
that
they
live?
How
many
people
never
want
to
live
anywhere
and
and
would
be
happy
in
an
RV?
You
know
like
who
are
these
folks
and
that's
why
Bill
per
zero
is
so
powerful
in
communities
built
for
zero
builds
a
by
name
list,
which
means
relationships
are
built
with
people
who
are
homeless
by
people
working
with
them
by
people
volunteering
and
they
understand
what
the.
Q
For
zero
out
of
rock
Rockford
Illinois,
where
they
have,
they
were
down
to
one
chronically
homeless
person
in
their
Community
I
want
to
hold
this
up
for
us,
we
could
potentially
get
to
zero,
chronic
or
veteran
homelessness
in
Santa
Fe,
our
numbers,
although
we
don't
have
a
perfect.
Q
Still
not
where
Portland
is
where
San
Francisco
is
right.
So
the
question
is
to
this
community
in
in
Illinois.
What
does
this
person
need
to
be
housed?
And
this
is
a
person
who
is
sleeping
on
a
great
outside
of
a
sidewalk
by
a
library,
and
he
liked
that
location,
because
he
liked
to
go
to
the
library
and
the
community
brainstormed
whether
they
could
build
a
house
in
the
location
for
this
guy,
so
I
I'm,
sorry,
I
went
off
on
a
bit
of
a
tangent.
AE
We
don't
know,
there's
no
one
answer
to
that
question.
Okay,
and
do
you
have
a
sense
of
how
many
people
in
Santa
Fe
are
living
in
their
cars?
I
mean
they
qualify
as
being
homeless,
correct,
correct,
unsheltered
connect,
Mr,
Mayor,
counselor
Romero
worth
connect.
Does
ask
that
question
and
we're
getting
better
data
through
that
I?
Don't
have
the
number
handy
and
it
wouldn't
be
perfectly
reliable,
but
a
fair
number
are
and
is
that
included
in
the
150?
AE
No,
the
150
would
be
the
estimation
of.
Q
So,
in
some
cases,
yes,
there
is
there's
some
overlap.
There
I
think
a
lot
of
those
folks.
We
see
a
lot
of
families
with
children
that
sleep
in
cars
and
it's
because
they
don't
want
to
be
detected.
They
don't
want
anyone
to
know
that
they
are
experiencing
homelessness.
Q
For
you
know
a
variety
of
reasons
in
particular
not
wanting
to
have
cyfc
involvement,
not
wanting
to
lose
their
children,
so
some
people
are
really
really
good
at
staying
very
far
under
the
radar
and
excuse
our
numbers
a
little
bit,
but
that
kind
of
goes
to
sort
of
some
of
the
policy.
Conversations
that
we've
brought
up
is
that
when
we
create
an
environment
where
people
are
unsafe
to
be
open
about
their
housing
situation,
we're
never
going
to
know
mm-hmm,
okay
and
back.
AE
To
the
built
for
zero
program
and
I
appreciate
you
talking
about
that,
how
do
we
get
to
zero
and
how
have
the
13
communities
across
the
country
that
have
gotten
to
zero
get
to
zero
I'm
gonna?
Give
that
to
my
built
for
zero
lead,
Superstar,
Anna,
Kell
and
I.
I
may
not
have
time
to
do
this
at
the
end
of
this
presentation.
AE
So
I
I
want
to
give
an
incredible
shout
out
to
Anna
who
is
actually
sadly
leaving
the
city
at
the
end
of
the
week,
they've
been
with
us
for
three
years:
she's
done
the
yeoman's
work
here
and
she's
lifted
up
the
bill
for
zero
program
in
the
city
of
Santa,
Fe
and
I
think
she
deserves
an
incredible
amount
of
our
community's
gratitude
for
coming.
As
far
as
we've
come
to
getting
quality
data,
which
is
a
big
Central
prep
premise
of
bill
for
zero.
But
Anna,
can
you
take
that
question?
Please
yeah!
H
Thank
you,
so
I
heard
that
an
analogy
recently
through
another
bill
for
zero
Community
actually
on
how
they
describe
the
reason
for
having
this
data
and
how
it
works
to
end
homelessness
in
their
community
and
it's
like
grocery
shopping.
You
know
that
your
family
needs
food.
You
don't
just
go
to
the
store
and
buy
random
things.
You
think
about
the
needs
of
the
people
in
your
household.
Is
there
anyone
who's
diabetic
surrounding
was
who's
vegan?
Who
has
food
allergies,
plan
meals
and
you
buy
ingredients
accordingly.
H
Too,
that
the
funders
who
are
kind
of
at
the
headwaters
of
solving
this
problem,
the
policy
makers-
have
to
come
together,
so
the
city,
the
county,
the
foundations
which
we
are
doing
and
we're
having
those
conversations
about.
Oh
well,
what
are
your
resources
available
to
do?
What
are
your
resources
available
to
do
and
being
able
to
Pivot
and
not
use
our
resources
in
the
same
old
ways
and
not
stay
in
the
same
old
ruts
in
the
road
is
really
what's
enabled
and
and
to
try
things.
H
That's
a
big
premise
of
built
for
xero
to
try
things
to
Pilot
things
and
if
they
don't
work
to
tackle
this
extraordinarily
difficult
problem,
try
something
different
and
I
guess
you
know.
I've
also
heard,
and
maybe
you
can
confirm
that
sometimes
you
know
sometimes
we
need
to
House
people
first
and
then
work
on
their
problems
rather
than
I,
sometimes
hear
oh
we've
gotta
we've
got
to
fix
their
substance,
abuse
before
they'll
be
stable
in
a
house,
but
I
think
more
recently,
that's
really
been
turned.
H
The
other
way
is
that
correct,
Mr,
Mayor
councilman
are
worth
yes,
that's
called
housing.
First,
that's
the
principle
by
which
HUD
now
funds
all
HUD
funded
Endeavors.
Previously
there
was
a
sobriety
required,
but
best
practices.
You
can't
really
get
sober
if
you're
unhoused
or
it's
quite
a
bit
harder.
H
For
example,
and
some
people
live,
you
know
Decades
of
their
life,
not
sober,
but
they're
housed
so
separating
those
problems
and
prioritizing
housing
is
the
is
the
principal
Santa,
Fe
and
and
all
of
Northern
New
Mexico
effectively
ended
youth
homelessness
by
using
a
housing
first
model,
and
so
it
really
can
be
done,
and,
and
so
that
also
speaks
why
these
wrap
around
services
are
so
important
in
whatever
the
solution
is.
H
So
if
it's
temporary
encampment
in
whether
it's
tents
or
fishing,
whatever
you
call
them
tents
fishing,
what
do
you
call
ice
fishing
tents?
The
important
thing
is
that
they
they
have
the
services
to
help
deal
with
whatever
the
problems
are
that
that
family
or
that
person
is
experiencing
yes,
okay.
H
So
when
you
you
keep
talking
about
a
temporary
solution.
What
do
you
mean
by
that
I?
Think,
that's
the
other
thing
I
hear
you
know.
People
are
like
okay,
no
way
wherever
you
put
this
you're.
Just
you'll
never
move
it.
It'll
never
go
away,
it's
not
temporary
I,
don't
you
know,
essentially
we
don't
trust
you
and
I'm,
not
saying
you,
but
you
we,
we
you
generally
that
you're
that
you're
gonna
this
is
going
to
be
temporary.
What
do
you
talk
about
that
Mr
mayor
council,
member
worth
their
question?
H
What
is
temporary
is
just
like
how
near
to
a
school
is
it.
You
know,
like
that's
a
gray
area.
What
is
temporary
in
terms
of
the
the
Midtown
proposal
that
we
put
forward
earlier,
the
the
Midtown
is
temporary
in
itself,
and
so
we
were
talking
about
a
one-year
part
of
the
challenge.
H
Now,
though,
is
that
we're
already
into
July
and
they
have
a
one-year
contract
and
it
may
take
four
to
six
months
to
launch
that,
so
is
that
really
workable
I
think
you
know
it's
a
hard
question
to
answer
and
public
trust
is
really
important.
The
public
conversations
and
community
and
Community
engagement
are
really
important
around
this
issue.
It's
really
hard
to
predict
how
long
something
will
take
to
procure
it's
really
hard
to
predict
how
long
something
will
take.
H
Some
staffing
will
take
to
hire
something
nowadays,
it's
hard
to
predict
how
long
things
will
take
to
come
in
the
mail
or
be
shipped
to
us
in
terms
of
supplies.
Etc,
you
know
I
think
there's
a
I'll
just
own
that
there's
a
sadness
to
even
investing
our
time
in
the
temporary
solution
when
we
can't
fully
Define
it,
but
I
think
you
know.
H
You
know,
but
I
think
it's
you
know
in
one
year
to
18
month
was
my
idea
of
a
temporary
solution
and
I
mean
it's
some.
Some
of
it
depends
on
how
fast
we
can
get
a
longer
term
solution.
That's
exactly
right!
So
if
we're
really
concentrated
on
that
it
could
be
very
temporary,
and
certainly
we
proved
with
Consuelo's
place
that
we
could
act
very
quickly
when
we
had
to
Mr
mayor
council
Romero
worth
Santa
Fe
Suites.
H
Two
is
and
The
Lamplighter
examples
of
innovative
ways
which
we
learned
from
built
for
zero
to
stand
up,
affordable
housing
quickly,
instead
of
you
know
in
the
in
the
years-long
entrenched
process
that
have
previously
taken
place,
yeah
and
I-
guess,
okay,
so
so
I
mean
clearly
we
have
a
problem.
We
also
have
some
money.
What
we
have
a
million
dollars
in
arpa
money?
Yes,
and
how
fast
do
we
have
to
use
that
arpa
money?
We
have
three
years
to
use
our
Urban
money
so,
okay
to
two
plus
now
and.
BD
Just
to
take
the
Midtown
example
that
was
going
to
house
about
50
people-
yes,
so
it's
not
going
to
solve
the
problem
correct,
but
if
we
don't
start
like
moving
taking
steps,
I
don't
I
mean
I,
don't
know
that
you
solved
the
problem
all
at
once.
Do
you
I
mean
that's
sort
of?
Why
I
ask
you
like
how
do
we
get
to
zero?
How
do
how
does
how
does
built
for
zero
work?
I
mean
I,
don't
think
you
in,
like
one
swath
fix
it
I
think
it's
a
you're.
BD
You
continually
take
steps
towards
whittling
those
numbers
down
correct
Mr,
mayor
council,
Romero
worth
that
is
correct,
but
we
have
made
great
strides
in
our
data
and
getting
quality
data,
we're
a
little
further
to
go.
A
few
points
off
I.
Think
from
having
full
Quality
by
name
list.
BD
I
will
flag
that
Community
solutions
that
built
for
zero
parent
umbrella
organization
is
really
prepared
to
robustly
support
communities
who
have
quality
by
name
lists
with
robust
funding
that
they
have
so
I
think
it
opens
us
up
for
other
opportunities
that
can
help
us
move
more
quickly.
When
we
get
that
quality
data,
we
can
show
what
we
actually
need,
and
then
resources
tend
to
come
in
because
of
that.
AS
A
few
months,
according
to
my
expert
who
was
going
to
remain
on
speed
dial
when
she
goes,
and
that's
a
tribute
to
the
providers
in
our
community
I
I,
would
be
remiss
if
I
didn't
acknowledge
that
every
single
provider
of
homeless
services,
from
the
lifeline
to
peeves,
to
Zanies,
to
as
well
as
plays
to
this
volunteer
Street
Outreach
people
Joe
who's
here
tonight
and
and
teams,
have
contributed
to
this
effort
and
they've
bought
in,
and
they
understand
that
what
we've
been
doing
hasn't
worked
and
we
need
to
do
something
different.
AS
So
I
want
to
thank
them
tonight,
Interfaith
shelter,
that's
another
one,
yeah
and
I.
So
I
guess
my
comment.
It
seems
like
we
know
what
our
options
are
and
what
kinds
of
things
you
know
we
should
be
doing
and
I
I
do
I
think
this
I
think
the
quality
of
life
hearing
that
was
a
couple
weeks
ago
was
a
good
conversation.
AS
Starter
I
think
this
conversation
tonight
is
I
hope,
instructive
to
the
community
about
the
problem
about
the
resources
we
have
about
the
different
ways
we
are
trying
to
House
people
in
this
community
across
a
broad
spectrum
of
needs.
You
know
I
I,
think
Alexandra
Ladd
is
in
the
room
somewhere,
and
she
taught
me
that
word
that
we're
building
a
spectrum
right
I
mean
this
is
one
end.
This
is
a
very
tough
part
of
the
housing
problem
in
this
community.
It
is
not
easily
solved
and
I
guess.
AE
It
is
we
want
to
do
in
your
last
slide,
so
that
I
I
would
hate
for
us
to
not
pursue
anything
and
just
say:
y'all
come
and
tell
us
what
you
want
us
to
do.
I
would,
rather
that
we
start
to
pick
something
and
then
have
that
feedback
as
we're
as
we're.
Considering
it
I
mean
we
have
all
these
processes
if
it
were
a
contract.
You
know
a
contract
moves
through
the
governing
body
depending
on
the
level.
AE
If
it's
you
know,
maybe
maybe
we
need
to
do
a
special
hearing,
but
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
ways
to
expedite
building
the
community
understanding
and
hearing
from
people
about
whatever
it
is.
We
think
we
ought
to
be
pursuing
and
and
I
think
you
know,
I'll
be
very
interested
to
see
what
kind
of
feedback
we
get
after
tonight.
AE
Whether
people
say
you
know,
wow
I
didn't
realize
and
I
I
think
we
do
need
to
do
something
or
whether
my
email
is
full
of
people
saying
do
nothing
just
keep
playing,
whack-a-mole
and
and
and
moving
people
whenever
we
find
them
and
we'll
just
keep
spending
three
four
million
dollars
a
year
to
move
people
around
without
ever
really
getting
to
a
solution.
So
that's
all
I
have
there.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
No
one
else
I
think
that
was
a
very
thorough
presentation.
I'm
grateful
to
you,
there's
more
discussion
and
we're
sorry
to
lose.
AE
You
you've
been
an
outstanding
I'm,
going
to
say
Irreplaceable,
but
you
know
what
I
mean
resource
and
thank
you
and
please
take
care
and
come
back
thanks.
Everybody
we
have
been.
We
have
a
lot
of
folks
here,
have
been
incredibly
patient.
Waiting
for
the
petitions
from
the
floor.
I'd
entertain
a
motion
to
move
to
petitions
from
the
floor
right
now
and
then
return
to
our
regular
order
after
that,
so
I
moved.
Second,
there's
a
motion.
There's
a.
G
AE
Let
me
I'll
counselor,
Castle
or
I'm:
sorry,
counselor,
Lee
Garcia,
yes,
counselor,
Michael,
Garcia,
yes,
Mr
Lindell,
yes,
councilor
Rivera,
yes,
counselor
Merrell
worth
yes,
councilwomania
rayel,
yes,
counselor
Castle,
yes,
mayor
Weber,
yes,
so
we're
moving
immediately
to
petitions
from
the
floor,
Madam
Clerk,
Madam
clerk.
So
we've
got
a
lot
of
folks
who
wish
to
address
the
governing
body.
AE
What
what
are
we
a
lot?
We
have
two
minutes
per
person.
Yes
mayor,
we
have
a
timer
displayed
on
the
screens.
It'll
have
a
two-minute
countdown,
so
everyone
will
be
allotted
two
minutes
and
then
at
the
conclusion
of
that
the
microphone
will
be
muted
and
the
next
person
will
come
up
State,
their
name
and
the
reason
I'm
not
sure.
At
this
time.
Mayor
we'd
like
to
organize
I,
think
there's
probably
two
public
comments.
AE
One
is
I,
think
more
for
encampments
and
one
is
for
veteran
banners.
I
don't
know
if
individuals
would
be
in
support
of
maybe
having
all
encampments
and
then
veteran
banners
it's
up
to
everyone.
Let's
they're
already
lined
okay
lined
up
everyone's
lined
up,
we'll,
go
ahead
and
get
started,
and
if
everybody
who
is
waiting,
your
turn
could
please
be
patient.
You'll
absolutely
get
a
chance.
So
just
give
us
your
name
and
give
us
your
statement.
Yes,
I
I
can't.
AE
AE
H
Local
businesses
and
then
further
blighting
our
neighborhoods
makes
it
incredibly
difficult
to
look
forward
to
any
quality
of
life
in
Santa
Fe.
You
must
take
into
account
our
Parks
our
schools,
our
libraries
and
for
our
quality
of
life
daily,
as
we
use
our
Parks
and
Recreation
areas
that
surround
the
college
for
Saturday.
I
H
I
But
now
we're
finding
out
that
it's
your
lack
of
taking
care
of
the
actual
polls.
That's
the
issue.
You
have
your
freedoms
because
of
these
men
and
women
that
put
their
lives
on
the
line,
much
the
same
as
our
police
and
fire
who
do
not,
who
do
without
your
support
or
proper
Staffing
mayor
I
thought
you
and
caliber
buddies.
Why
are
we
now
hearing
that
Albuquerque
is
encouraging.
H
I
H
I
Place
for
years,
I
served
on
the
Interfaith
homeless,
shelter,
so
I
know
what
homelessness
is
like.
I've
talked
to
the
actual
people,
I,
don't
know.
If
any
of
you
have
bothered
other
than
a
photo
op
to
go
and
help
there
Joe
Jordan
brain
has
taught
us
always
love
them
where
they're
at
but
I,
don't
think
that
includes
putting
others
in
Jeopardy
to
do
so.
Wait.
H
May
all
know
who
he
is:
they
established
a
College
St
Michael's
College,
which
became
the
education
template
for
the
state
of
New
Mexico.
They
were
renamed
the
College
of
Santa
Fe
in.
AQ
AQ
AE
AE
Santa
Fe
District
Four,
first
of
all,
a
shout
out
to
our
veterans.
Thank
you
for
for
your
service,
because,
because
of
them,
you're
able
to
do
what
you
want,
but
for
some
reason
mayor
under
your
Administration.
Anything
military
is
a
No-No.
First
of
all,
our
soldiers
Monument
gets
destroyed.
Secondly,
has
still
yet
to
be
returned
and
now
you're
doing
this
for
our
veterans,
oh
you're,
wrong,
totally
wrong
just
so
you
know
that
now.
Q
AE
Q
AE
In
this
city,
can
anybody
ask
that
probably
not,
but
my,
but
my
biggest
concern
is:
why
are
other
parts
of
the
city
looking
at
I'll
give
you
an
example,
you
know
a
place
to
put
it,
you
want
a
place,
that's
enclosed
right.
There,
upper
Canyon,
Road,
the
the
water
park,
the
water
history
park,
it's
enclosed!
It's
got
a
place
right
there,
where
we
can
put
stuff
put
places
for
the
homeowners
to
go.
There
mirror
on
your
way
to
coming
to
City,
Hall
and
Away
going
back.
You
can
check
to
see
how
it's
going.
AE
This
is
what
bugs
me.
The
south
side
is
always
treated
like
crap
district,
one
District
Two,
where
those
are
the
sacred
sites.
We
can't
touch
them
they're,
pristine,
because
why
we
think
about
the
tourists,
but
we
forget
about
the
people,
the
people
that
made
our
community
the
people
that
are
ante
pasados,
our
ancestors
that
made
this
community
so
truthfully
counselor.
Thank
you
for
making
sure
that
there
is
a
public
discussion.
I
will
be
back
to
have
that
discussion
with
you
all.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
AE
H
Thank
you.
Yes,
sir
good
evening,
mayor
Weber
and
members
of
the
council,
my
name
is
Forrest.
Thomas
I
reside
at
10
40
Camino
Manana
Santa
Fe,
87501
I'm,
the
owner
of
the
St
Michael's
Village
West
Shopping
Center,
which
is
directly
contiguous
to
the
University
campus
I
appreciate
counselor
Garcia's,
also
foregone
assumption
that
this
was
a
foregone
conclusion
that
there
would
be
sanctioned
camping
on
the
University
campus
I.
Don't
believe
that
there
really
has
been
much
public
Outreach.
E
E
I
would
like
to
stay
on
behalf
of
my
tenants.
We
certainly
don't
see
homelessness
as
a
crime,
but
there
are
numerous
issues
that
spill
over
into
the
adjacent
areas
of
homeless,
sanctioned
areas.
I
think
the
perfect
example
which
most
everybody
in
the
city
has
probably
read
about
in
the
newspapers,
is
Pete's
Place
and
the
Harrison
Road
area.
I
think
that
it's
very
unrealistic
to
expect
that
the
city
police
can
even
begin
to
deal
with
the
amount
of
problems
that
spill
out
over
into
the
neighborhood.
AQ
AQ
E
Have
volunteered
at
Pete's
Place
for
over
a
decade,
I
also
run
chaplain
Joe
Street
Outreach
chaplain
Joe
Street
Outreach
hikes
around
and
goes
to
the
everywhere
where
people
are
camped
throughout
the
city
and
all
their
districts,
so
I
know.
There's
people
very
well.
I
know
that
there's
not
a
safe
place
to
Camp
an
encamp,
a
sanctioned
encampment
is
needed.
The
unsanctioned
sites.
People
are
being
moved
around
all
the
time.
E
You
know
they
are
stressed
out,
not
knowing,
if
they're
going
to
have
to
leave
the
next
day
or
what
and
they
need
a
place
where
they
can
park
and
get
services
and
know
they
can
be
there
be
safe
and
I
would
like
to
commend
the
city
for
looking
at
this,
taking
a
close
look
at
it
in
the
city
staff,
for
spending
all
the
time
on
the
reports
and
doing
a
federal
job
on
it
and
personally
I
live
a
half
a
mile
away
from
the
proposed
sanction.
E
Campsite
and
I
support
the
proposed
campsite
and-
and
if
not,
if
that's
not
what
the
city
wants,
then
I
definitely
support
it
somewhere,
where
the
city
chooses
a
bit.
AQ
E
AQ
It
and
I
do
think
it
really
needs
to
be
in
a
timely
fashion,
because
there's
there
are
people
out
there
very
unsafe
and
being
chase.
There's
people
that
are
now
not
even
setting
up
a
camp
anymore,
they're
just
bedding
down
in
the
bushes
or
under
a
portal
you
know
getting
their
route
to
the
business
person
leaves
and
leaving
before
the
business
people
come
and
they're.
Just
you
know,
betting
down
anywhere
they
can
and
just
moving
on
in
the
morning.
AQ
AQ
I
Mr,
Webber
I'm,
sorry
I,
I'm,
very
concerned
about
the
way
that
the
flags
were
taken
down
and
put
up
and
taken
down
for
the
last
three
years
they
have
been
up
and
now
all
of
a
sudden
they
they're
saying
take
them
down.
I,
don't
understand
why?
Because
one
little
flag
isn't
going
to
throw
the
pole.
AQ
Believe
me,
the
light
pole
is
very
strong
and
anyway
I'm
here
to
represent
the
VFW
2951
and
I'm
the
past
Commander
and
I
think
that
we
should
change
the
policy
in
putting
those
flags
back
up,
because
it's
an
insult
to
a
lot
of
people,
a
lot
of
members,
and
let
me
let
me
just
explain
something
to
you-
why
I
feel
really
concerned
about
this
when
I
got
back
from
Vietnam.
E
We
were
told
to
keep
your
heads
down
and
we're
going
through
the
case
it
it
International
Airport.
E
AQ
Had
different
postings,
but
on
December
7th
1941,
he
was
posted
on
the
Admiral
staff
on
Corregidor
and
underwent
bombing
on
Corregidor
consistently
the
whole
time
the
Japanese
were
attacking.
He
was
a
little
different
from
the
National
Guard
guys,
a
lot
of
guys
from
New
Mexico
were
there,
but
Joe
was
a
Marine
rather
than
in
the
army.
He
was
captured.
He
was
sent
to
mukadon
prison
camp
in
Manchuria,
a.
AE
H
H
Q
AA
H
Financial
reason
I
can
I
got
that,
but
why
is
there
Financial
money
for
yes
done
for
overtime
for
police
officers,
that.
G
BA
Everybody,
however,
these
are
our
veterans
that
have
served
all
of
us.
They
deserve
honor.
They
deserve
our
respect
and
you
know,
look
at
my
father.
Look
at
him
he's
a
wonderful
person
inside
and
out
our
former
employee,
and
so
I
am
very
proud
of
him
and
I
would
urge
you
to
please
reconsider
it's
already
been
over
a
month.
I.
BA
The
problem
is,
pnm,
I
know
has
offered
and
they
have
allocated
some
money,
but
we
don't
know
what
the
issue
is.
We
don't
know
if
it's
permits,
we
don't
know
if
they're
on
they're
afraid
to
hire
somebody,
because
because
of
the
regulations,
we
don't
know,
we've
been
told
different
things
but
I'm,
hoping
that
you
will
reconsider
and
that
you
will
put
them
up
because
look
at
all
these
wonderful
veterans
that
have
served
all
of
us
and
thank
you
so
much
and
one
more
thing
about
the.
BA
The
other
matter
is
the
tent
city
that
was
proposed
and
it
seemed
pretty
seriously
proposed
to
move
forward
at
a
very
fast
pace
at
the
June
first
quality
of
life
meeting
watch
that
video
and
it
was
moving
on
a
fast
track.
That's
why
I
think
there's
a
concern
that
this
this
project
was
moving
forward.
Just
like
the
housing
project
did
there
during
the
covid
pandemic,
without
any
public
opportunity,
any
opportunity
for
public
involvement,
so
I
do
have
a
petition
I'm
trying
to
scan
it
and
email
it.
BA
BA
BA
Good
evening
my
name
is
Lisa
Morris
and
I
live
in
District.
2.
I
would
like
to
thank
you
very
much
Mr
Garcia
for
saying
that
the
plans
for
the
encampment
at
the
midterm
mid
mid-campus
that
we
need
more
public
input
on
that.
I
do
think
that
it's
been
held
in
areas
of
government,
but
I
think
that
you
should.
AG
BA
Started
listening
to
the
Community
First,
unfortunately,
that
did
not
happen.
I
just
want
to
express
that
in
my
early
days,
I
worked
with
the
homeless
in
Wilmington
Delaware
I
worked
for
Independent
Living
I
worked
for
individuals
that
were
transitioning
from
being
institutionalized
into
group.
X
BA
And
I
worked
at
an
apartment
setting
with
individuals
who
were
home
previously
homeless
and
now
we're
living
in
an
apartment.
Setting
so
I
do
have
experience
in
this
issue
and
would
very
much
like
to
be
able
to
participate
in
this
quality
of
life
committee.
So
I
don't
know
how
to
do
that,
but
I
would
because
I
cannot
say
what
I'm
going
to
say
in
this
short
amount
of
time.
But
the
one
thing
I
want
to
say
is
that
the
housing
Christ
that
that
homelessness
is
not
a
housing
crisis.
BA
BA
BA
BA
Good
evening
my
name
is
Kathy:
Rivera
I
live
in
District
One.
My
mailing
address
is
PO
Box
363
in
Santa
Fe
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
my
veteran
family
member,
my
grandfather,
Frank,
Rivera
and
I'm
opening
up
with
some
rhetorical
questions
for
the
governing
body.
What
do
we
honor
in
Santa
Fe?
What
do
we
choose
to
show?
BA
BA
Those
who
serve
or
served
our
country
know
very
well
the
challenges
of
pushing
through
adversity,
no
matter
the
difficulties
they
knew
when
facing
challenges.
That
failure
was
an
option,
but
quitting
was
not
I
asked
if
this
governing
body,
somehow
channeled,
that
veteran
courage,
resilience
and
sense
of
purpose
and
figure.
This
out
quitting
is
not
an
option.
Remember
the
words
of
George
Washington
close
to
Santa
Fe,
show
Santa
Fe
What
contributions.
We
honor
here
thank.
G
BA
Evening
governing
body
Mr,
Mayor,
Mary
shrubin,
registering
your
neighborhood
association,
like
others,
I
was
disappointed
tonight
that
you
were
not
prepared
to
make
a
decision.
We
understood
that
that
was
the
agenda,
so
we're
going
to
have
more
public
hearings,
I'm
thanking
both
of
you,
Chris
and
Sarah
forgot
your
name
to
engage
again
with
the
neighbors
of
more
public
hearings
on
the
Midtown
campus
area
and
appropriate
whether
or
not
it's
appropriate
for
this
proposal
for
encampment
homelessness
housing.
BA
This
problem
is
not
the
council's
problem.
It's
not
the
Department's
problem,
it's
everyone's
problem
and
unless
you
are
willing
to
sincerely
and
honestly
engage
with
the
people
who
are
affected
by
the
solutions
for
the
problems,
there
will
be
no
solution
to
homelessness
in
Santa
Fe,
but
we
desperately
desperately
want
it
and
I
for
one
am
willing
to
work
for
it.
As
I've
said
many
times,
and
it's
time
you
tighten
up
your
britches
and
make
a
decision.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
BA
Good
evening
again,
my
name
again
is
Heather
Lavalley
I'm,
the
director
of
Consuelo's
place
just
for
clarification
to
the
number
of
150
on
the
wait
list
is
actually
higher
now,
and
that
is
not
the
number
of
homeless
people
in
Santa
Fe.
It's
just
the
number
of
people
that
are
waiting
to
get
into
consulate
this
place
and
I
would
also
like
to
remind
everybody
that
people
that
live
at
the
shelter,
they're
people-
you
know
I
mean
we
have
about
65
people
at
the
shelter
right
now
about
a
quarter
of
them
are
families
with
small
kids.
BA
We
have
veterans,
we
have
people
with
medical
problems,
we're
they're
people.
You
know
we
have
a
beautiful
garden
that
one
of
our
residents
put
together.
We
broke
vegetables
and
flowers.
We
have
a
group
of
guys
that
loves
to
do
yard
work.
They
get
out
there
and
clean
up
the
yard.
Every
day
we
had
a
singing
group.
You
know
they're
they're,
a
good
group
of
people
they're
a.
H
Q
The
shelter
stably
and
that's
you
know
that's
what
we
work
at
every
day.
I
do
realize
that
a
lot
of
or
not
a
lot
but
some
homeless
people
experience.
Something
excuse
me
experiencing
homelessness.
H
Do
not
want
to
be
at
a
shelter,
but
we
also
provide
services.
We
provide
case
management
ongoing
for
people
that
are
no
longer.
I
At
the
shelter
you
know
it's
a
great
opportunity.
We
have
a
little
bit
of
a
buffer
around
us.
It's
been
a
great
experience,
I
think
for
most
of
the
people
that
have
been
at
the
shelter
we
have
managed
to
house
a
good
amount
of
people,
I
mean
it's
going
a
little
slower
now
because
there's
not
a
lot
of
housing
available,
but
just
these
are
good
people.
You
know
they're
people
with
kids
people
with
families.
You
know
they
get
jobs.
We
celebrate
those
things
we
celebrate
when
people
get
jobs
when
they
get
housed.
I
I
This
is
a
wonderful
opportunity
for
people
to
experience
that
are
experiencing
homeless
homelessness
to
have
a
safe,
compassionate
doing
the
fun
place
to
live
while
they
get
back
on
our
feet.
There's
a
place
like
this
in
Las,
Cruces
called
Camp
hope
and
they
are
able
to
help
up
to
50
presidents.
In
it
a
lot
of
the
residents
are
able
to
change
their
life
around
with
the
help
of
Camp
hope
to
find
stable
housing
with
resources
provided
by
the
camp.
I
I
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
my
father,
mayor,
Weber
Council,
thank
you
for
serving
our
community
I,
really
appreciate
it.
My
father
was
a
World
War
II
veteran.
Can
we
get
your
name
please?
Yes,
I
am
Roberta
abadaka
Carter.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you
and
I
have
had
my
father's
Banner
flying
proudly
for
the
last
two
years,
at
least
and
I
am
very
saddened
that
the
Banners
are
not
up
again
and
I'm
here,
because
these
are
all
our
heroes.
He
was
one
of
my
heroes.
I
These
are
heroes
right
here,
they're
I've
attended
this
evening
and
that
aren't.
Even
here
we
have
a
lot
of
veterans
and
he
was
an
Army
veteran.
He
served.
H
AE
AE
AS
AS
My
name
is
Elaine
lovity
and
I'm
here
to
represent
my
mother,
Stella
Villa
lovity,
who
is
a
World
War
II
veteran,
as
was
my
father
Sam
Lobby.
Last
year,
both
my
parents
had
banners
displayed
on
the
same
post.
My
mother
was
overwhelmed
with
cheers
and
joy.
She
felt
blessed
to
have
seen
this
memorable
tribute
to
all
military
veterans,
an
honor
that
she
should.
That
should
not
be
taken
away
from
others
who
have
also
served
their
country.
She
does
not
want
the
dip
banners.
A
BD
Protect
us
in
regards
to
the
Insurance
liability.
Perhaps
some
private
foundations
would
be
willing
to
contribute
to
the
expense.
Our
city
has
many
charitable
organizations.
This
should
consider
stepping
up
to
help
support
the
Hometown
Heroes
program.
They
fought
for
us
now,
let's
fight
for
them.
Thank
you
all
for
your
time
and
service
God
bless
you
thank
you.
BD
I'm
command
sort
of
major
Billy
Russell,
the
United
States
Army,
medic,
retired
I,
represent
and
speak
on
behalf
of
two
hand.
Three,
a
couple
hundred
veterans
when
Don
Christian
came
to
me
and
asked
if
we
would
support
this,
we
were
the
first
veterans,
banners
to
go
up
and
we're
proud
to
say
that
now,
there's
347
and
we
led
the
way.
BD
BD
BD
AL
H
AL
E
E
I
am
here
to
speak
on
behalf
of
the
hometown,
hero
Banner
program
that
the
city
adopted
four
years
ago.
At
that
time.
All
of
you
voted
in
support
of
the
program,
even
though
one
of
you
stated
to
another
counselor
I
hope
these
don't
become
an
eyesore
this
year
you
have
decided
to
kick
these
veterans
and
families
to
the
curb
due
to
the
cost
of
city
workers
installing
them
and
then,
even
though
these
families
paid
for
their
own
banners
and
brackets
just
a
reminder.
E
Those
banners
have
the
city
of
Santa
Fe,
name
and
logo
displayed
on
the
top
within
weeks.
It
has
now
turned
from
Financial
to
a
supposedly
safety
issue,
not
one
of
you
counselors,
except
for
Mr
Garcia,
has
reached
out
to
me
in
the
past
four
years
or
the
American
Legion
to
ask.
How
can
you
help
directify
this
issue?
E
E
That's
why
people
this
community
voted
for
you,
my
dad,
a
World,
War,
II
veteran,
who
passed
away
at
99
this
past
year
was
a
member
of
General
George.
Patton's
third
Army
slept
in
a
foxhole
for
278
consecutive
days
fighting
across
Germany
during
the
bitter
winter
of
the
Battle
of
the
Bulge.
While
some
of
your
family
members
were
home
here,
sleeping
in
their
own
warm
beds,
I
received
a
letter
from
on
Monday.
E
From
Stella
lovati
a
101
year
old,
World,
War,
II
veteran,
who
still
lives
here
in
Santa
Fe,
she
stated
she
was
willing
to
step
aside
this
year
with
her
and
her
husband's
Banner.
Also
a
World
War,
II
veteran
just
so
the
new
140
banners
for
this
year
could
be
displayed.
This
is
the
type
of
individual.
She
is
nope.
H
Yes,
sir
good
evening,
my
name
is
Dr
Robert
vibo
I'm,
a
doctor
of
Oriental
medicine
here
in
New,
Mexico
I'm.
Also,
the
department
commander
of
the
military
order
of
the
Purple
Heart,
which
is
a
veteran
service
organization
in
which
to
be
a
member
of
you,
have
to
have
been
wounded
in
combat
I,
was
wounded
in
Iraq
on
September
30th
2008,
as
the
department
Commander
I
represent
that
Organization
for
the
entire
State
about
3
500,
Purple
Heart
recipients,
but
we
don't
stop
there.
We
represent
all
veterans
so
about
55
000
in
your
city,
I'm.
H
Also
the
national
surgeon
for
that
same
organization
and
I
advocate
on
behalf
of
veterans,
healthcare,
related
issues,
as
I
said,
I'm
a
former
captain
in
the
Marine
Corps,
so
I
think
I
come
with
some
degree
of
certainty
about
what
I'm
saying,
I'm,
also
a
New
Mexico
native.
This
is
my
home
and
I
believe
that
my
home
deserves
a
capital
which
honors
its
veterans.
H
These
Banners
are
not
jingoism.
They
are
not
faux
patriotism,
they
are
a
public
acknowledgment
of
selfless
service
and
sacrifices.
They
are
a
testament
to
a
Heritage
of
patriotism
and
the
blessing
of
Liberty
secured.
Not
just
by
Blood,
but
also
by
unfulfilled
dreams
due
to
lives
Shattered
by
War,
by
sons
and
daughters
brought
home
in
abandoned
in
Banner
draped
boxes
and
a
recognition
that
your
neighbor,
who
came
home
in
a
shattered
body
while
leaving
a
shattered,
mind,
had
shattered
Soul
at
the
edge
of
Liberty's
light,
so
that
Americans
that
they
never
knew
might
breathe
free.
H
H
Those
Patriots
and
their
families
gave
freely
I
know
that
I'm,
probably
not
going
to
change
your
Minds
tonight
and
I,
do
want
to
thank
you
for
having
the
courage
to
suffer
the
slings
and
arrows
of
angry
Patriots,
but
I
believe
that
their
anger
may
be
just
I.
Know.
I
can't
change
your
minds,
but
I
do
hope
that
you'll
continue
to
demonstrate,
as
you
have
already
done
through
your
service
to
your
community,
that
you
are
patriots
who
are
worthy
of
the
defense
that
has
been
wrought
for
you.
H
Thank
you,
mayor,
Weber,
honorable
member
members
of
the
council.
If
you
would
just
give
me
a
moment
before,
we
start
my
time
right,
if
everybody
would
please
stand
and
join
me
in
a
moment
of
silence
for
all
of
our
veterans
and
those
that
are
currently
still
serving,
including
you
all
please
thank
you.
H
My
name
is,
my
name:
is
Gary
Johnson
I
live
at
1024,
Calle,
De,
suenos,
the
proud
veteran
and
the
son
brother,
nephew
and
friend
of
veterans
I'm,
asking
all
of
you
to
join
me
in
a
moment
of
silence
which
you
did
to
show
respect
and
support
for
this
honorable
way
in
which
we
honor
our
veterans,
who
have
served
and
sacrificed.
We
all
know
someone
who
has
served,
which
is
evident
by
driving
by
our
national
cemetery.
H
I
Q
Q
H
I
To
Post
9
11.
I
am
an
anomaly
in
a
state
of
American
Legion
as
a
whole
being
female
and
slightly
younger,
but
though
I
served
I
about
I
learned
about
continued
service
every
day
from
them.
For
example,
the
post
12
Honor
Guard
volunteers
at
the
Santa
Fe
National
Cemetery
on
average
15
hours
a
week,
stipends
the
honor
guard
receives
go
back
into
the
community
just
last
week.
A
check
for
2500.
I
I
In
where
I
need
your
help
is
in
the
courage,
Department,
the
banner
program
serves
as
more
than
a
reminder
of
service.
They
are
a
reminder
of
our
gente's
tradition
of
service
honoring.
Those
who
committed
their
lives
sometimes
leading
their
families
to
struggle
for
a
greater
cause.
They
are
Santa.
Fe
I
should
not
have
to
stand
here
today
to
remind
you
of
all
of
this.
As
most
of
you
have
mentioned,
your
family
members
that
have
served
my
post
members
continue
to
serve.
H
I
H
H
I
Last
month,
a
first
cousin
from
Alabama
came
to
visit,
New
Mexico.
For
the
first
time
in
20
years
she
saw
the
few
flags
that
were
hanging.
G
BD
BD
I
H
H
I
just
want
to
let
you
know
that
it's
it's
a
dishonor
to
take
away
what
has
been
given
already
as
an
honor
I
have
veterans
in
my
all
my
family,
plenty
that
I
can
think
of
right
off
the
bat
from
my
great
uncles
to
my
uncles
to
my
cousins,
my
my
own
family
myself
and
my
sister,
my
son,
who
are
veterans
and
we've
all
been
in
Wars.
Most
of
us
have
been
in
Wars.
H
I
met
him
in
a
foxhole.
I
was
his
eight
Gunner,
and
we
just
had
we
made
a
very
a
strong
relationship,
which
is
also
honorable,
as
I
was
in
line
waiting.
I
noticed
your
Memorial
book,
your
memorial
memorial
case
for
the
City
of
Santa
Fe,
and
the
thing
is
stuck
with
me-
was
I,
didn't
know
this,
but
our
flag,
our
city
flag,
was
flown
over
Iwo
Jima
in
2013,
and
that
is
awesome.
H
H
H
I
just
I
just
feel
very.
You
know
strong
about
all
of
this
and
it's
unnecessary,
I
I
just
think
we
should
just
be
given
our
honor,
which
is
I
mean
nobody
has
to,
but
it
was
given,
and
now
it's
been
taken
away.
Thank
you
for
listening
to
me.
Thank
you
very
much.
H
My
name
is
Shirley
Martin
I
live
in
Rio
Rancho,
but
I
was
born
and
raised
here
in
Santa
Fe.
My
husband
Keith
served
this
country.
He
put,
he
thought
for
all
of
you
guys
freedom,
and
this
is
what
you
do,
get
him
to
slap
him
in
the
face.
I
think
it
is
wrong.
It
is
really
wrong
and
let
me
look
out
here
in
front
there's
a
statue
for
for
some
Petri
because
he's
the
middle
of
Honor.
H
H
This
is
for
manhood
chicken
I
can
still
think
of
a
moment
when
I
was
praying
constantly
to
return
home
state,
keeping
in
mind
Santa
Fe,
holding
on
to
its
title,
my
home
of
Holy
Faith
and
my
mother,
holding
on
to
her
faith,
placing
a
medal
of
Saint
Christopher
in
a
special
box
until
my
return
and
offering
her
masses
to
all
the
soldiers.
These
were
the
memories
that
kept
me
grounded.
It
was
the
greatest
feeling
when
I
was
to
leave
and
the
sadness
at
the
same
time
sadness
because
I
was
leaving
my
comrades.
H
Good
evening
my
name
is
Jerry:
Gregory
I
am
representing
Sanchez
family
there's
six
brothers.
Their
cousins
are
here.
I
stand
before
you
representing
the
six
brothers
that
served
in
World
War
II.
They
were
all
Santa
Fe
residents
who
left
together,
served
in
various
theaters
and
all
returned
to
Santa.
Fe
live
along
with
the
Sanchez
Brothers
there's
my
mother-in-law
and
my
father
is
down
on
this
end,
when
we
as
an
extended
family
were
advising
February
2022
that
the
city
council
and
City
of
Santa
Fe
supported
the
banner
program
we
were
all
in.
H
We
now
stand
before
you
wondering
why
you
waste
your
support
and
and
read
the
2022
Banner
program
paid
in
excess
of
twenty
one
thousand
dollars
to
raise
these
banners.
Now
we
find
it
now.
You
find
a
technical
issue
not
to
raise
the
veterans
Banner
the
turmoil
this
has
caused.
The
veterans.
Family
is
unfathomable.
H
H
Good
evening
city
council,
my
name
is
Michelle
galloz
I
come
here
with
the
hopes
that
I
can
convey
what
the
hometown
Harris
program
means
to
my
husband
and
myself,
and
the
other
Veterans
of
the
city
of
Santa,
Fe
I'm
sure
that
many
of
the
veterans
and
their
families
that
are
here
today
can
agree.
My
husband
Richard
galloz,
who
is
a
veteran
from
the
Vietnam
War
he
enlisted
in
the
air
force
for
four
years
and
was
honorably
discharged
in
1972.,
he's
a
quiet
man
Richard
strongly
believes
in
honor
service
and
Duty.
H
H
H
H
All
our
veterans
did
this
with
honor
trust
and
with
many
prayers,
some
made
it
back,
but
still
carry
the
memories
of
this
war
every
day.
Some
did
not
make
it
back
and
their
families
were
left
with
a
big
hole
that
would
never
be
filled
safety.
The
other
concern,
Financial
I,
understand
the
cost
involved
with
putting
up
these
banners
throughout
the
city
seems
that
in
life,
there's
always
cost
cost
of
these
veterans.
Many
paid
the
ultimate
price,
their
lives.
H
Good
evening
my
name
is
Richard
gloss,
Mr
Mayor,
Council
I'm,
a
Vietnam
vet
as
you've
heard
of
all
these
speakers
before
me.
This
is
very
personal
and
I'm,
hoping
we're
here
to
hear
a
solution
and
not
have
just
another
excuse
when
I
return
in
Vietnam
some
52
years
ago,
I
didn't
return
to
any
Planet
there
or
parade.
H
H
Mayor
City,
councilors
I'm
here
not
only
representing
all
of
bats,
but
my
father
myself
and
my
brother
who's
of
that
also.
But
if
you
notice,
my
father
is
dressed
in
the
city
of
Santa,
Fe
police,
uniform,
so
Not
only
was
it
bad.
He
was
a
city.
Can
we
get
your
name,
sir?
But
I
want
to
thank
those
of
you
that
responded
to
me
in
my
email
back
in
November
or
January,
where
we
thought
the
program
was
going.
I
want
to
thank
the
mayor
and
the
six
City
councilors
for
you
to
respond.
H
H
You
know
I've
got
family
members
and
Friends
throughout
the
United
States,
and
they
know
about
the
program,
the
hometown
HERO
program
and
they
think
it's
honorable
attraction
for
this
Santa
Fe
and
when
I
say
attraction,
I
mean
it's
something
that
people
want
to
see,
not
not
just
The
Monuments
that
we
have
out
here
the
special
events
through
in
the
plaza
that
we
have
that
we
celebrate.
This
is
another
attraction
that
people
come
to
see
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
you
guys
help
continue
to
support
us.
H
H
H
I'm
asking
for
you
to
reconsider
your
decision
and
put
these
banners
back
up
only
because
they've
earned
the
respect
they're
in
your
respects
and
then
and
Trust
Me
That
by
taking
him
down
as
a
huge
black
guy
to
the
city
of
Santa,
Fe,
there's
other
cities
that
have
banners
up
no
problems,
but
Santa
Fe
always
has
to
have
some
kind
of
problem,
so
I'm
asking
to
put
them
back
up
it's
a
short
speech,
but
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
allowing
all
these
people
to
come
speak
tonight.
Thank
you,
sir.
H
City
council
mayor,
my
name,
is
Dan
Baca
I'm
here
to
represent
a
lot
of
these
veterans.
I'm
not
veteran.
My
dad
was
a
World
War.
Ii
veteran
is
with
General
Patton
World
War
II.
He
was
a
messenger
for
him
and
he
was
also
with
the
tank
destroyers
received
his
Purple
Heart
and
every
time
I
go
up
and
down
where
they
had
the
banners.
It
made
me
feel
good,
a
lot
of
people
I'm
sure
they
love
this.
H
H
H
H
Good
evening
my
name
is
Michael
Gonzalez
I'm,
first
generation
veteran
of
two
Wars
Grenada
in
83
and
First
Gulf
War
in
Saudi
Arabia
at
any
rate
I'm,
not
here
I'm,
one
of
the
lucky
ones.
I
came
home
with
no
scars,
no
worries
except
my
heart.
My
friends
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
my
wife,
who
is
a
hundred
percent
service
connected
to
disabled
retired,
Air,
Force
veteran
in
22
years
right
now.
She
couldn't
make
the
trip,
because
this
new
Administration
is
cutting
back
veterans
benefits.
So
she
can't
get
the
treatment
to
manage
your
pain.
H
H
13
generations
of
New
Mexicans
here,
although
back
to
the
explorers
that
I've
tracked
her
third
great
grandfather
removed,
is
a
civil
war
bet
here
at
Fort,
Union,
stop
the
Confederacy
from
getting
to
Colorado
and
California
gold
mines
that
would
have
continued
the
war
and
possibly
won
the
Warfare
Confederacy
and
continued
slavery.
Think
about
that!
That's
how
pivotal
New
Mexico
is
historically
that
Obelisk
needs
to
go
back.
It's
a
soldier's
Monument.
It
was
dedicated
four
years
after
the
Civil
War.
For
a
reason,
it's
not
our
Monument,
it's
theirs.
H
H
Flags
or
anything
on
aluminum
or
steel,
29
million
pounds
per
square
inch
for
steel,
10
million
pounds
per
square
inch
for
aluminum.
Well,
guess
what
the
surface
area
of
those
banners
is
not
going
to
be
affected
even
with
90
miles
an
hour
wind
gusts,
which
is
our
design
here
in
New
Mexico.
The
worst
part
about
that
is
the
connectors.
H
Council
of
my
I'm,
a
retired
person
U.S
army
here,
representing
my
dad
myself
and
my
nephew
I
spent
30
years
serving
our
country
from
two
Wars
to
the
Cold
War
at
the
end,
I
was
there
at
West
Germany
when
the
Wall
came
down
so
I
have
plenty
of
time,
but
also
have
you
ever
asked
these
soldiers
Airmen
Marines?
Where
were
they?
When
things
happen,
they
were
in
the
front
lines.
They
did
not
hesitate
to
go
forward
today.
H
You
ask
him
if
they
had
to
go
to
war
in
against
Russia,
there's
no
hesitation
for
them
to
support
our
country.
They
will
do
it
all
over
again,
regardless
of
their
age.
So
with
that
the
men
and
women
deserve
to
be
hung
and
shown
that
this
town
is
committed
to
our
Legacy
of
veterans
present
past
in
the
future,
it's
never
going
to
die.
We're
never
going
to
get
rid
of
veterans.
Unless
people
like
you
stop
it.
H
So
you
need
to
come
down
to
terms
and
figure
out
a
way
because
we
deserve
with
no
obligation
saying
I'm
not
going
to
die
today.
No,
we
will
die
for
our
next
Soldier
or
Airmen.
That's
no
question,
that's
the
way
we
are
we're
tight
and
this
is
even
better.
This
is
how
we
show
it
as
we
can
to
this
day.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
H
At
a
time
when
we're,
when
our
youth
and
our
young
adults
are
struggling
to
find
role,
models
and
heroes,
when
these
banners
go
back
up,
all
they
would
have
to
do
is
drive
down
Cerrillos,
Road
or
Saint
Francis,
and
look
up
and
and
see
these
banners
and,
and
those
are
simple
Heroes
to
them
to
these
families.
So
I
would
respectfully
request
that
not
only
the
the
governing
body
but
everybody's
sitting
in
these
seats
continue
to
come
to
a
compromise,
to
find
Solutions
on
how
we
can
get
these
banners
up.
H
H
My
name
is
Kathy
Payton
is
my
husband
served
in
Vietnam
Melvin
Payton
when
he
came
back,
he
had
a
of
health
issues
and
still
does
you
are
dishonoring
and
disrespecting
the
veterans?
You
ought
to
be
ashamed
of
yourselves
for
not
coming
up
with
another
plan
to
put
these
banners
up
to
honor
all
of
our
veterans
and
they,
while
we're
enjoying
the
Privileges,
they
gave
their
lives
a
lot
so
I
just
want.
That's
all
I
want
to
say
is
shame
on
you.
H
For
the
past
few
years,
I've
enjoyed
seeing
the
military
banners
up
and
down
Cerrillos
Road
didn't
know
much
about,
but
I
thought
today
found
that
they
had
a
great
display
to
honor
our
veterans.
Last
year,
I
was
talking
to
my
friend,
and
she
mentioned
her
and
her
family
were
going
to
purchase
a
military
Banner
for
their
father.
H
H
I
then
heard
that
the
city
of
Santa
Fe
stopped
the
project
due
to
safety
issues,
costs
overall
disagreements.
I
truly,
don't
know
what
the
real
issues
or
concerns
were,
but
I
do
find
it
disheartening
to
know
the
city
of
Sanity
couldn't
come
to
an
agreement
and
figure
out
how
to
accomplish
this
small
gesture
and
be
part
of
this
program
and
honor
our
veterans.
H
H
H
Good
evening
Mr
Mayor
counselors
Andrew
black
nice
to
see
you
my
name
is
Adela
Duran.
It's
been
a
very
long
time
since
I've
attended
a
public
government
meeting
as
a
resident
of
this
city
I'm
here
tonight
on
behalf
of
my
father,
who
was
a
World
War
II
veteran
Ambrose,
Duran
I'm
here,
because
veterans
issues
are
near
and
dear
to
my
heart
and
I'm
also
here,
because
I
was
compelled
to
come
and
support
the
efforts
of
Mr
Christie,
who
I've
watched,
work
so
hard
and
just
over
the
last
six
months.
H
I,
don't
understand
all
the
circumstances
regarding
the
evolution
of
this
program,
but
what
I
hear
tonight
and
I
know
that
you're
hearing
the
same
thing
is
that
all
these
veterans
and
their
families
want
to
know
that
this
program
is
not
going
to
go
by
the
wayside,
and
so
communication
obviously,
is
very
important.
I
took
the
initiative
to
contact
a
woman
who
helped
launch
a
program
in
a
city
in
Arizona.
H
She
told
me
that
two
of
the
first
things
that
they
did
were
to
have
an
engineering
study
and
a
win
study
done,
and
so
perhaps
that's
where
we
go
from
here
and
as
City
councilor
Garcia
said
with
regard
to
the
homeless
issue
a
short
while
ago,
we
all
need
to
work
together
to
find
a
solution
and
I
think
there
are
plenty
of
people
that
were
here
tonight
that
are
here
tonight
that
lets
us
folk
that
are
willing
to
help
find
that
solution.
I
know
I'm
willing
to
do
my
part.
H
H
Good
evening,
mayor
and
counselors,
thank
you
very
much
for
giving
all
of
us
an
opportunity
to
speak.
I
know
it's
not
an
easy
feat
to
stay
behind
that
Dice
and
and
keep
awake.
So
I
hope
you
are.
As
you
know,
I
was
the
city
councilor.
Well,
first
of
all,
my
name
is
Joanne.
Bijo
koppler
I
live
in
District
Four
I'm,
a
former
city
councilor,
a
city
councilor,
who
sponsored
the
resolution
to
create
the
Hometown
Heroes
program.
H
Now
those
of
you
who
were
on
the
council
at
the
time
note
that
it
was
not
an
easy
feat
for
me:
I
I
could
not
get
some
of
y'all's
support.
I
did
get,
however,
counselor
Chris,
Rivera,
counselor,
Renee,
villardial
and
former
counselor
of
Beta
Support,
and
then,
of
course,
the
other
counselors
that
are
no
longer
on
the
on
the
city.
Council
supported
it
in
the
end,
but
it
was
not
easy
and
I
for
the
life
of
me.
Don't
know
why
it
wasn't
easy.
It's
a
no-brainer!
H
If
you
ask
me
so
now
we
are
here.
We
did
pass
it
and
now
we're
here
at
square
one.
Once
again
it's
this
is
to
me
just
the
craziest
thing.
I
thought
I've
seen,
but
thank
you,
counselor
Michael
Garcia
for
continuing
to
stand
up
for
the
veterans.
I
know
that
you
are
appreciated,
but
this
Administration
has
moved
from
removal
of
our
local
cultural
traditions,
our
historical
statues
to
removal
of
veterans,
banners.
You
know,
I
wonder
where
it's
going
to
stop
I
hope
it
stops.
Now
the
buck
stops
with
you.
H
All
this
program
has
been
one
of
the
things
that
the
city
has
done
right
you
and
I.
When
I
was
on
the
council,
we
did
the
right
thing
and,
and
I
was
always
very
proud
of
that
and
I
know
you
all
were
too,
because
the
public
city
of
Santa
Fe
people
loved
it
you've
heard
that
tonight
our
veterans
fought
for
our
nation,
and
now
it's
unconscionable
that
they
have
to
come
here
and
sit
tonight
and
stand
and
fight
for
banners.
You
all
need
to
do
the
right
thing.
H
H
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
hey
Council,
my
name
is
Louis
Carlos.
This
is
my
beautiful
wife,
Angela
Carlos
I
want
to
just
say:
isn't
this
awesome,
the
passion
you
could
taste
the
passion
you
could
feel
the
passion
of
All
of
Us
coming
in
here.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
for
us
to
come
and
speak
with
you
I'd
like
for
you
to
meet
my
son.
This
is
Aaron
Robert
Louis,
Carlos
Aaron
is
a
graduate
of
Santa
Fe
High
School.
He
was
a
corrections
officer
and
little
story
about
Aaron.
H
He
wanted
to
follow
in
his
Father's
Footsteps
Aaron's
dream
was
to
join
the
Santa
Fe
Police
Department,
where
his
father
worked
and
retired
from
Eric
went
to
after
Corrections.
He
went
to
boot
camp
at
the
right
page
of
18.
and
he
was
sent
to
war
Afghanistan.
He
turned
19
got
off
the
bird
told
get
to
work.
My
son
was
mortared.
H
H
H
What
is
your
legacy
after
you're
gone?
Ladies
and
gentlemen,
you
want
to
be
the
the
council
that
just
stepped
on
Veterans.
Let's
fix
it,
it's
not
too
late.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you,
sir.
Thank
you.
Man.
H
I
challenge
you
to
speak
for
three
minutes
and
see
if
you
can
do
and
get
the
thoughts
that
you
want
to
do,
but
and
I
challenge
the
counselors
to
make
a
motion
to
change
it
from
two
minutes
to
three
minutes
to
let
these
people
finish
what
they're
saying
give
an
opportunity
say
what
they
want
to
say.
But
no,
you
want
to
limit
the
speech
and
that's
what
you
do
mayor
I,
see
you
as
a
nighttime
Soldier
anti-battering
person,
what
I've
seen
five
things
that
you've
done
against
anyways.
H
You
made
it
two
years
ago
that
you're
going
to
remove
the
Don
Diego
de
Vargas,
then
you're
going
to
remove
the
soldiers,
monument
and
then
the
kid
cars
is
Monument.
You
remember
that
mayor.
We
have
it
in
tape,
video
tape.
Anybody
wants
to
see
it.
It's
some
videotape
just
look
at
Eli
Bransford
and
he
has
got
all
that
on
videotape
on
YouTube
we
haven't
and
now
you're
attacking
these
banners.
Okay
and
now
you're
also
attacking
the
college.
Did
you
know
mayor
that
that
college
used
to
be
at
Burns
hospital?
H
Did
you
know
mayor
that
that
hospital
took
in
Army
Air,
Force
Coast
Guard
every
soldier
that
was
injured
in
war?
They
came
to
this
Hospital,
so
they
can
recuperate
and
now
you're
doing
this
this
service
to
them
too.
That's
I
thanked
mayor
that
you've
done
against
veterans
and
soldiers.
It's
horrible!
It's
terrible!
You
should
be
ashamed
of
yourself,
mayor,
I,
know,
you're,
not
I,
know
you're.
Not
now
mayor,
I
gotta
tell
you
women
over
here,
counselor
women's
you,
ladies,
do
you
do
everything?
The
mayor
tells
you
to
do.
Look
at
the
records.
H
H
Amen,
my
name
is
Terry
Becker
I'm,
a
resident
of
Santa
Fe
live
on
Hopewell
Street
I'm.
Also,
the
this
first
district
Commander
I
have
an
American,
Legion
I'm.
Also
past
commander
of
post
12
Santa
Fe
wish
to
say
that
I
am
a
veteran
of
the
United
States
Navy
Vietnam
I
was
the
governor's
mate
technician.
Second
class
I
went
to
school
here
in
what
was
Sandia
lab
in
San
Diego
down
in
Albuquerque
as
part
of
w
Division
I
was
a
keeper
of
the
Dragon
I
spent
a
tour
in
Vietnam
aboard
the
USS
Coral
Sea.
H
H
H
1962-63
excuse
me:
he
died
from
those
injuries.
I
have
a
banner,
that's
been
flying
for
three
years.
Honoring
him.
That's
the
only
way
I
can
honor
him
now,
because
he
is
not
here
So
when
you
say
that
this
is
not
can't,
hang
or
put
down
or
put
up
these
banners
this
year,
because
of
whatever
reasons
you
may
want
to
use,
it
is
putting
a
thumb
in
every
Veteran's
eye
here
in
Santa,
Fe,
Santa,
Fe
county
and
the
New
Mexico,
and
this
is
showing
total
disrespect
of
those
people.
H
Good
evening
my
name
is
Melissa
Silva
I'm
here
to
represent
my
grandfather.
He
was
a
pow
in
World,
War
II.
He
also
had
three
sons
that
served
in
the
Army
following
him:
my
Uncle
Pat
Tapia,
my
uncle
Costner
Tapia,
my
Uncle
Joe
Tapia,
and
my
grandfather,
Miguel
Tapia,
LED
them
all
what
you
are
doing
to
our
veterans
and
what
you're
doing
to
our
city
of
Santa
Fe
by
taking
down
our
history
by
removing
things
that
mean
something
to
the
locals.
I
was
born
and
raised
here.
H
Our
ancestors
were
born
and
raised
here
and
what
you're
doing
isn't
fair
my
husband,
retired
Air
Force.
My
son
is
currently
serving
in
the
Air
Force
and
what
you
are
doing
by
disrespecting
our
military,
because
that's
what
you're
doing
you
give
them
a
little
and
you
take
away.
They
have
enough
hard
times
trying
to
deal
with
the
past
and
what
they
saw
overseas,
what
they
saw
at
War
what
they
face
on
a
daily
basis,
and
now
they
have
to
come
in
front
of
you
guys
and
ask
you
to
reconsider,
placing
these
bags
where
they
belong.
H
H
Mayor
city
council,
thank
you
for
this
opportunity.
My
name
is
Manuel
seis.
I
am
a
proud
Navy
and
army
veteran
served
in
Vietnam
I,
come
from
a
long
line
of
veterans,
my
grandfather,
World
War
One,
my
dad
World
War
II
myself
Vietnam,
my
daughter
and
my
son
Desert
Storm
these
banners
when
they
were
up
my
grandkids
would
see
my
fathers
and
my
wife's
father
and
I
want
to
know
all
about
it.
H
I've
got
people
all
over
California
Arizona
everywhere,
where
I
send
them
pictures
of
these
banners
and
they
want
to
know
how
they
can
get
it
going.
Barstow
California
actually
started
doing
it
now.
These
people
are
proud.
They're,
proud
of
the
veterans.
They're
proud
of
their
family
I
also
served
as
a
police
detector
here
for
35
years
here
in
Santa
Fe,
along
with
a
lot
of
these
other
people
that
are
here,
police
officers
and
then
work
for
the
city.
H
H
H
H
I'm
Beverly
Kellum
I
feel
a
little
bit
off
topic
right
now
because
of
all
the
veterans
who
have
spoken.
But
I
was
here
to
speak
on
behalf
I'm.
The
deputy
director
of
the
Interfaith
Community
shelter
at
Pete's
Place
I,
just
want
to
point
out
that
almost
every
single
complaint
I've
ever
heard
about
people
who
are
experiencing
homelessness
centers
on
a
few
issues,
trash
needles,
loitering
and
I'm.
H
Sorry
I
can't
even
bring
myself
to
say
the
word,
but
can
you
imagine
even
for
the
moment,
having
no
place
to
even
use
the
restroom
to
the
people
who
would
stand
in
opposition
to
a
safe
outdoor
space
for
people
who
are
homeless?
I
would
just
like
to
point
out
the
following,
regardless
of
where
they
are
safe.
Outdoor
spaces
provide
restroom
and
other
hygiene
related
services
for
people.
They
allow
people
to
be
clean
to
wash
their
hands,
which
is
something
that
most
of
us
take
for
granted.
H
Safe
outdoor
spaces
provide
a
place
for
people
to
be
during
the
day,
instead
of
sleeping
and
using
the
restroom
in
a
bike
path
tunnel
or
in
the
Dugout
at
a
Little
League
field,
safe
outdoor
spaces
have
trash
cans
and
safe
needle
disposal.
Surfaces,
surfaces
and
safe
outdoor
spaces
create
options
for
service
providers
to
offer
real
help
to
real
people
to
get
into
the
services
that
they
desperately
need.
Mental
health
services,
substance
abuse,
Services,
Housing,
Services,
safe
outdoor
spaces
may
not
be
perfect,
but
they
are
so
much
better.
H
Even
for
the
people
who
might
be
the
direct
neighbors,
even
if
it
were
in
Midtown,
then
a
widespread
camping
is
ever
going
to
be
right
now
so
I'm
I
I
believe
that
I
can
speak
for
most
of
the
homeless
service
providers
in
Santa
Fe
to
say
that
safe
outdoor
spaces.
We
absolutely
support
the
city's
efforts
to
deal
with
all
of
the
campsites
around
town
in
a
Humane
and
compassionate
way.
That's
all
I've
got.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
H
One
of
the
first
reasons
is
because
of
the
reduction
of
crime
that
we
have
seen
on
our
property.
We
sit
on
land,
that's
owned
by
the
city
of
Las
Cruces,
with
five
social
service
agencies
within
a
stone's
throw
of
each
other
with
the
implementation
of
Camp
hope.
We've
had
fewer
sexual
assaults
reported
fewer
violent
crimes,
less
defecation
and
trash
on
the
property
and
much
less
property
damage
than
before.
H
We
had
the
camp
hope
offers
safety
to
unhoused
people
and
that
one
is
simple:
keeping
people
safe
should
be
a
priority
and
I
heard
that
from
the
mayor
this
evening,
Camp
hope
not
only
keeps
people
safe,
it
connects
them
to
Services
daily.
We
offer
housing,
Supportive
Services
therapy,
food
Transportation,
bathrooms
things
that
are
hard
to
access
when
your
day
starts
in
an
unsafe
place
and
far
from
service
providers.
H
H
Santa
Fe
does
have
unsanctioned
encampments,
so
this
is
really
an
opportunity
to
give
those
living
outside
an
opportunity
for
sanction
encampments
or
safe
outdoor
spaces,
for
safety,
for
services
and
for
empowerment
and
I
I
hope
your
Council
seizes
this
opportunity.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much,
and
thanks
for
waiting
so
long
to
have
your
turn
to
speak.
H
Thank
you.
Can
you
hear
me
yes,
good
as
far
as
banners?
No
good
deed
goes
unpunished
and
again
I,
don't
see
how
it's
disrespectful
to
take
the
banners
down.
It's
a
private
program
and
the
city
was
eating
the
program
and
you
certainly
have
offered
another
location.
H
I
appreciate
the
people
who
wanted
to
try
to
find
a
compromise
who
thought
people
should
come
forward
with
Solutions
Etc
I
certainly
would
like
you
to
honor
my
daughter,
who's
in
Native
New
Mexican,
who
serves
in
the
U.S
officer
Corps
in
the
CDC
right
now,
she's
in
Ethiopia.
She
was
in
Afghanistan
in
2019
and
she
was
in
Liberia
when
Ebola
broke
out,
but
you
you
won't
do
that
you're
gonna,
just
honor
Warriors
and
as
for
the
homeless,
encampments
I
think
you
should
find
a
place
in
every
District.
H
I
think
District
Four
has
more
just
because
it
was
the
leader
developed
and
sorry
Ron
Trujillo.
But
your
suggestion
up
across
from
Canyon
Road
Park,
there's
also
Cristo
Rey
school
there.
So
I.
Don't
think
that
would
really
work
very
well.
I
would
like
the
city
to
look
at
the
scheduling
for
the
pools.
H
We
are
really
wasting
on
both
facilities,
especially
the
two
and
a
half
million
dollars
we
paid
for
Salvador
Perez
on
Monday
and
Tuesday.
We
have
no
early
swim
anywhere
on
the
north
side
of
town
and
we
have
no
early
workout
place
anywhere
on
the
north
side
of
town.
It
opens
at
10,
that's
Perez
and
the
pool
opens
at
10
30
and
oh
my
gosh.
It's
open
for
labs
until
4
pm.
H
Rachel
Thompson
Rachel
hi.
Can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
we
can.
My
name
is
Rachel
Thompson
I
live
at
3306
Camino,
Cielo
Vista,
which
is
in
the
first
block
off
of
Richards
on
the
Arroyo
side.
So
right
next
to
the
rodeo
grounds,
I
have
a
really
good
friend,
who
is
a
retired
captain
of
a
police
force
in
a
small
city
outside
Seattle
and
she
has
and
she
lives
in
Seattle.
H
So
she
has
two
perspectives
on
this
issue
of
homelessness
and
she's
just
said
that,
having
whatever
we
want
to
call
them
safe
after
your
spaces
is
far
far
preferable
to
letting
people
camp
where
they
will
I
mean
from
a
health
and
safety
perspective,
and
a
public
perspective
is
just
so
much
better.
Even
if
it's
not
a
solution,
I
want
to
speak
in
favor
of
the
idea
of
having
one
of
these
sites.
H
Article
that
I
thought,
maybe
the
corner
by
the
fire
station
in
the
rodeo
grounds
would
be
suitable,
a
couple
things
so
that
you
need
to
know
about
this,
that
I've
discovered,
and
that
is
there-
is
a
summer
concert
series
on
Sunday
nights
that
is
extremely
popular
I've,
never
seen
the
parking
lot
at
the
Rodeo
Grounds
so
jammed
and
loud
and
very
close
to
the
site
that
this
would
be.
There
is
also
a
Master
Gardener
program
out
to
the
right
near
the
county
offices.
H
There
I
wonder
whether
there
would
be
a
call
for
a
site
that
is
devoted
to
women
or
women
and
children.
I
know
a
lot
of
young
women
and
young
men
are,
are
homeless
together
and
I.
Think
that's
fine,
but
there
may
be
enjoy
being
in
a
just
a
women's
Community.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
H
H
This
is
Karina
Lopez,
the
executive
director
of
the
Interfaith,
Community,
shelter
and
I
just
wanted
to
say
thank
you
to
Mayor
Weber
and
the
city
councilors
for
for
being
up
so
late
and
and
hearing
everyone
out
on
on
the
encampment
issue,
a
shout
out
to
Kira
and
Anna
kale,
who
really
put
a
lot
of
work
into
this
Consuelos
Heather
Lavallee
for,
for
you
know,
willing
to
be
take
it
on
and
Chief
joy
and
all
his
team
for
working
closely
with
us,
and
also
you
know
ensuring
the
safety.
H
If
this
moves
forward
and
again,
we
definitely
support
some
effort
being
made
to
help
our
homeless
population
and
I
hope
that
people
don't
just
take
location
into
account
in
as
far
as
like
the
North
side,
or
you
know
up
by
Canyon,
Road
or
the
South
side,
because
when
we
look
at
the
services
that
something
like
this
would
provide
it,
it
is
about
location
but
close
to
Services
bus
access.
It
isn't
about.
H
H
Okay,
perfect
Ashley,
Kessler.
H
H
Mayor
Weber
and
City
Council
Members
I'm,
actually
sitting
here
with
my
my
son,
David
Kessler.
H
He
it
shows
him
a
tremendous
amount
of
respect
and
honor,
and
he
is
so
proud
that
his
hometown
used
to
fly
these
banners.
He
really
wanted
me
to
speak
and
express
that
to
all
of
you
and
ask
that
you
guys,
please
all
see
if
we
can't
find
a
solution
to
this
and
get
these
banners
back
up
in
our
hometown.
H
There
I
have
a
lot
of
people
in
the
attendee
room,
but
no
one
is
raising
their
hand,
so
I
just
want
to
know
that
if
anyone
would
like
to
speak
on
competitions
from
the
floor,
please
raise
your
hand
and
I
can
call
on
you
and
if
you
want
to
leave
or
send
in
a
message
to
the
clerk's
office
by
email
or
by
letter.
That's
also
a
way
to
get
your
comments
in.
H
No
more
hands
all
right.
In
that
case,
we'll
take
petitions
from
the
floor
as
being
completed.
It
is
10
o'clock.
Let's
take
a
break
till
10
15.
thanks
everybody.
H
H
Item
e,
it's
request
for
approval
of
an
affordable
housing
trust
fund
service
agreement
in
the
total
amount
of
four
hundred
thousand
to
provide
down
payment
assistance
to
a
minimum
of
10
client
households
at
or
below
120
percent
area
median
income.
This
is
with
Home,
Wines
and
Cody
is
available
for
this
item.
Thank
you
and
I
think
we
also
have
a
almost
a
companion
measure
that
involved
a
five
hundred
thousand
dollar
award
to
the
Housing
Trust.
That's
also,
this
briefly
brought
off
the
consent
agenda.
H
I
I
just
wanted
to
have
you
have
an
opportunity
to
tell
us
how
this
assistance
program
will
work
who's
eligible
and
to
what
extent
we
are
making
it
available
to
city
employees.
H
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor
of
members
of
the
council
that
those
programs
I'm
sure
everybody
has
met
you,
oh
hi.
My
name
is
Cody
Minnick
I've
worked
for
Alexander
Aladdin,
affordable
housing.
Those
programs
are
available
to
anybody
in
Santa
Fe
who
any
household
that
earns
120
area,
median
income
or
less
and
as
city
employees.
If
they
live
in
the
city
of
Santa
Fe
they
are
welcome
to
participate.
I
understand
from
is
glad
that
the
administrative
contracts
are
being
tweaked
a
little
bit.
Can
you
speak
to
that?
Please?
H
Yes,
Mr
Mayor,
members
of
the
council.
We
have
added
language
in
the
administrative
contracts.
What's
the
problem,
if
that
may
interrupt
Mr
Mayor,
we
believe
that
we
may
need
a
motion
to
initiate
discussion.
I
apologize.
Can
we
get
a
motion
move
to
approve?
Second,
there's
a
motion
to
approve
and
there's
a
second
and
now
we're
asking
a
couple
of
questions
before
we
move
open
it
to
the
governing
body.
So
are
you?
H
You
were
briefing
us
on
the
administrative
contract,
adjustments,
Mr
Mayor
members
of
the
council
every
four
years
we
do
an
RFP
to
solicit
home
ownership,
Support
Services.
We
have
two
respondents:
Housing,
Trust
and
Homewise.
The
focus
of
this
contract
is
to
provide
homebuyer
training
and
counseling
Financial
Fitness
training,
other
kinds
of
refinancing
Services
foreclosure
prevention,
also
to
help
work
with
private
developers
to
help
me
implement
the
inclusionary
zoning
program.
One
of
the
items
in
the
scope
of
work
is
also
Outreach
over
the
years.
H
This
has
taken
the
shape
of
both
kind
of
traditional
marketing
Outreach,
but
also
Homewise,
for
instance,
has
partnered
with
Christus
and
and
the
City
of
Santa
Fe
and
done
Brown
Bag
lunches
with
hey,
if
you
think
you
ever
want
to
buy
a
home
here,
are
the
First
Financial
Fitness
steps
you
need
to
take.
So
we
added
to
their
contract
another
scope
of
work
that
said
that
they
will
specify
part
of
their
Outreach
campaign
on
City
and
employees
either
through
the
wellness.
H
Our
wellness
program
does
a
lot
of
this
kind
of
work
and
so
we'll
we'll
sort
of
design
that
programming
hand
in
hand
with
them
as
as
the
contract
is
executed,
and
this
is
both
Homewise
and
the
Housing
Trust
agreement.
Mr
Mayor,
that's
true.
Both
both
responded
to
the
RFP
and
as
as
we
have
in
years
past,
we
selected
both
of
them.
They
offer
a
lot
of
the
same
Services,
they
have
very
different
styles
of
doing
it
and
they
also
offer
unique
services.
H
Thank
you
any
other
questions
about
this
provision
for
affordable
housing
services
and
down
payment
assistance.
H
Yes,
councilman
will
work
yes,
councilwoman
Via
Real,
yes,
counselor
Joseph,
yes,
councilor,
B,
Garcia,
yes,
mayor
Weber,
yes,
motion
has
been
approved.
Thank
you
just
one
minute
and
give
us
take
us
to
the
next
item.
Yes
mayor.
The
next
item
is
item.
H
is
request
for
approval
of
an
affordable
housing,
trust
fund
service
agreement
and
the
total
amount
of
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
down
payment
assistance
to
a
minimum
of
15
client
households
at
or
below
120
area
median
income.
This
is
what
the
Santa
Fe
Community
Housing
Trust
move
to
approve.
H
H
Mr
Mayor,
it
almost
always
goes
farther
than
the
organization
plans
for
they
underwrite
each
household,
to
the
exact
amount
that
that
household
needs.
So
not
everybody
gets
the
maximum
amount.
Some
don't
need
that
much
and
then
others
need
the
maximum
amount.
So
almost
always
you
know
High
interest
rates.
H
We
might
be
looking
at
at
not
as
many
as
usual,
but
we'll
have
to
see
how
that
goes
and
again
the
city
employees
will
be
directly
approached
or
there
will
be
a
specific
outreach
program
for
city
employees
to
take
advantage.
Yeah
and
Mr
Mayor
I
should
clarify
that
these
contracts
on
tonight's
agenda
are
the
funding.
Specifically,
that
is
passed
through
to
the
income
eligible
beneficiaries.
We
have
an
administrative
contract,
that's
completely
separate,
got
it
and
that's
the
contract
for
both
entities
that
will
have
that
language
in
it.
Thank
you
super
other
question.
H
All
right-
yes,
councilman
Daryl,
yes
from
sarcastic,
yes,
counselor,
Lee
Garcia,
yes,
counselor,
Michael
Garcia,
yes,
mayor
Weber!
Yes,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Both
appreciate
you
Madam
clerk.
Take
us
to
the
next
item.
Please
I!
Guess
mayor!
The
next
item
is
item
R.
It's
consideration
of
the
resolution
sponsored
by
councilwoman
via
Royal,
councilor,
Rivera,
counselor,
Chavez,
counselor,
Michael,
Garcia
and
counselor
cassette.
H
There's
a
motion.
There's
a
second
counselor.
Well,
do
you
want
to?
How
would
you
like
to
proceed?
I
see,
counselor,
councilman
Villarreal
has
stayed
with
us.
Thank
you
for
that.
Do
you
want
to
speak
to
this
before
we
go
to
I,
know,
there's
an
amendment
on
the
on
the
docket
that
would
be
discussed.
But
do
you
want
to
speak
to
the
merits?
First,
councilwoman.
H
Are
you
talking
to
me?
Yes,
yes,
I
was.
Can
you
hear
me
I
I
can't
tell
the
screen
thing
yeah,
but
yeah
with
the
hybrid
actually
I
was
going
to
go
ahead
and
have
have
Chris,
Council
Villarreal.
Sorry
Council.
We
better
go
first,
I
hope
my
brother
counselor
over
there
seriously.
I
know
it
really
is
I'm
tired
that
you're
medicated
right
now
so
yeah,
so
you
would
like
Council
Rivera
to
take
the
floor
first
and
then
I'll
I'll
fill
in
after
correct
counselor
yeah
before
yeah.
H
Thank
you
thank
you
to
councilwoman
Villareal,
who
really
worked
to
create
the
resolution,
along
with
the
former
counselor
Carmichael
Dominguez
and
Andrew
black,
who
tried
to
stay
for
the
whole
meeting,
but
left
when
they
saw
the
number
of
people
that
stood
up
for
public
comments,
so
they
they
wish
that
they
could
be
here.
H
But
this
is
a
an
important
resolution
to
preserve
a
part
of
our
community
that
is
important
to
so
many
Senator
Ben,
Ray
Lujan,
as
well
as
Andrew,
black
and
Carmichael
and
I,
and
a
few
others
walked
up
to
the
petroglyphs
and
walked
around
looked
around
and
and
it's
beautiful
up
there
and
finding
ways
to
preserve
it.
I
know
there
was
some
graffiti
that
had
taken
place
after
we
had
gone,
which
was
really
difficult
to
hear
and
see.
H
So
really,
this
resolution
is
just
so
important
to
so
many,
including
the
Pueblos
and
many
others.
I
think
councilman
Villarreal
is
going
to
recognize
a
lot
more
people,
so
just
wanted
to
say
that.
Thank
you,
mayor,
thank
you.
Councilwoman.
Do
you
want
to
take
the
floor?
I
didn't
know,
there's
a
sound
issue.
I
just
got
a
text
about
the
sound
being
weird.
H
Thank
you,
I
think
Council
Rivera
also,
you
know,
alluded
to
the
cultural
and
and
critical
wildlife
habitat
for
the
Cafe
Del
Rio,
and
you
know
the
reason
why
this
came
about
with
many
stakeholders
is,
unfortunately
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
petroglyphy
basement
vandalism,
theft,
illegal
shooting,
poaching
of
Wildlife
and
and
livestock
illegal
dumping,
theft
of
stock
tanks,
unlawful
off-road
vehicle
usage,
habitat
fragmentation
from
illegal
roads
and
on
and
on
the
list
is
on
so
on
and
up
goes
on
and
on
so
I
think
that
really
the
best
way
to
tackle
these
issues
is
for
leaders
and
elected
bodies
like
us
and
surrounding
needless
in
cities
and
counties
that
and
the
Pueblos
as
well
as
well,
if
we
should
be
able
to
formalize
our
support
through
a
permanent,
cohesive
protection
of
the
Kaka
Del
Rio,
in
order
to
safeguard
their
protection
and
enjoyment
for
future
generations,
and
this
resolution
is
calling
for
our
federal
leaders
to
work
with
communities
and
stakeholders
on
permanently
protect
and
promoting
responsible
stewardship
of
this
incredible
landscape
and
I.
H
Think
my
colleague
alluded
to
some
of
the
partners
other
than
the
El
Pueblo
Council
of
Governors
and
Santa
Fe
county.
It's
also
supported
by
organizations
such
as
the
Native
American
fish
and
wildlife,
Society
Hispanics,
enjoying
camping
and
hunting
outdoors,
also
known
as
Echo
earthkeepers
360,
the
National
Wildlife
Federation
New
Mexico,
wild,
the
league
of
conservation
voters,
partnership
for
a
responsible
business
and
the
New
Mexico
Wildlife
Federation
already
said
that
no
actually
New
Mexico
Wildlife
Federation,
not
just
National,
Wildlife,
Federation
and,
of
course,
to
thank
our
colleagues
for
sticking
it
out
former
cancer.
H
The
fact
that
the
former
counselor
Carmichael
Dominguez
has
helped
us
through
this
process
and
Andrew
black
has
been
such
a
rewarding
process,
so
I'll
set
there
and
well
answer
any
questions.
I
think
there's
an
amendment
as
well.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
councilor
mayorworth,
thank
you,
mayor
I.
Don't
have
any
questions,
but
I
do
have
an
amendment
to
offer
and
I.
Don't
know:
I
guess:
I'll
move
the
amendment
all
right,
I'll
make
a
motion
to
adopt
the
amendment.
H
Is
there
a
second
second
okay
and
I'm
happy
to
speak
adds
one
whereas
clause
and
one
be
it
for
the
resolved.
Clause
I.
Think
what's
happening
with
this
resolution
is
very
important
and
I
think
this
amendment
is
compatible
with.
What's
being
proposed
and
what
the
objective
is
this
this,
whereas
Clause
acknowledges
that
the
kaha,
the
Rio,
is
also
an
important
city
and
county
utility
Corridor.
H
You
all
may
know
that
we
have
critical
water
infrastructure
that
supplies
the
water
to
the
city
and
county
of
Santa
Fe,
and
this,
whereas
Clause
acknowledges
that
infrastructure
and
the
be
it
for
the
resolve.
Clause
just
makes
it
clear
that
we're
not
limiting
the
future
city
and
county
near
and
long-term
utility
infrastructure
development
in
the
area,
and
that's
what
this
does.
Okay.
Thank
you
other
comments
about
the
Amendment.
That's
in
front
of
us,
councilor
Rivera,
you've
got
a
question.
Did
you
get
a
second
I?
Don't
know?
H
Yes,
if
I
could
just
add,
I
did
work
with
Andrew
black
on
this,
as
well
as
our
youth,
Water
Utility
people,
just
so
I
was
just
yeah.
I
was
just
going
to
jump
in
quickly
I.
My
counselor,
you
mentioned
your
visit
to
the
site.
I
had
the
great
fun
of
going
up
with
Andrew
and
getting
a
tour,
and
it
is
it's
history.
H
It's
remarkable
not
only
the
petroglyphs,
but
just
how
much
of
New
Mexico
history
has
taken
place
in
that
one
location,
I
think
the
the
preservation
of
that
is
incredibly
important
and
the
fact
that
it
may
have
been
spurred
by
people
doing
facing
those
petroglyphs
is
unfortunate.
H
I'd
also
think
that
the
addendum
that
councilor
mayorworth
is
making
is
worth
simply
putting
into
the
resolution
as
a
future
reminder
because
frequently
we
all
agree
among
ourselves,
but
if
it
isn't
memorialized
in
writing,
we
really
don't
know
that
it'll
be
seen
by
others
in
the
future.
I
also
spoke
with
Andrew
black
about
it.
H
I
think
he
is
a
real
honorable
man
going
between
different
players
in
this
situation,
and
he
felt
very
comfortable
with
this
as
a
way
of
making
sure
that,
while
we
really
focus
on
the
preservation
of
the
site,
we
we
don't
do
anything
that
jeopardizes
our
infrastructure
in
the
future
and
didn't
see
it
as
incompatible
at
all.
H
Put
that
out
there
any
other
comments
about
the
amendment
as
proposed.
Yes,
councilman.
You
have
your
hand
up
I'm
here
trying
here.
I
just
had
a
question
about
because
we
saw
this
at
the
you
know
at
five
o'clock
or
a
little
bit
before
so.
H
The
first
part
I
understand
the,
whereas
it
says
we
didn't
read
it
but
enter
record,
but
whereas
on
the
northeast
edge
of
the
cacadabriel,
there's
a
heavy
used,
City
and
County
Utility
Corridor,
along
and
in
the
vicinity
of
the
Buckman
road
that
includes
among
other
critical
infrastructure,
13
Heap,
water
wells
and
River,
a
river
diversion
two
large
water
transmission
pipelines
in
the
natural
gas
pipeline,
and
so
that
I
understand
the
second
part
for
the
new
or
proposed.
H
Be
it
resolved
says
that,
while
the
studio
posts,
additional
development
in
the
effect
of
the
Rio,
particularly
in
roadless
areas,
the
existing
utility
Corridor
and
wellfield
near
the
Buckman
Road
are
critical
to
City
and
County
of
resilience,
and
the
city
does
not
intend,
with
this
resolution,
to
limit
further
city
and
county
future
city
and
county
near
the
long-term
utility
infrastructure
development.
But
I
don't
understand
the
last
part.
It
says
in
this
heavily
impacted
area.
Are
they
saying?
Is
that
same?
H
I
guess
I
took
that
to
read
it's
a
an
area
of
great
importance
to
us,
but
I.
You
know
I'm,
not
sure
it's
critical
for
the
getting
the
message
across.
H
Okay,
so
let's
see
the
resolution
commitment
for
teachers
to
begin
with,
County
I
mean
I'm
happy
to
scratch
it
if
it's
yeah
that
doesn't
make
sense
to
me,
I'd
like
to
scratch
that
last
heart,
so
I
think
you're
suggesting,
and
so
the
sentence
would
read.
Well,
it's
a
long
sentence.
That's
part
of
the
reason
why
that's
a
problem!
The
city
does
not
intend,
with
this
resolution,
to
limit
future
city
and
county
near
and
long-term
utility
infrastructure
development
period.
H
H
Yes,
so
a
motion
to
amend
the
amendment,
all
right,
I
I'd,
move
to
strike
in
this
heavily
impacted
area
from
the
amendment
for
a
second
there's,
a
second
from
councilwoman
burial,
their
discussion
of
the
amendment
to
the
amendment.
Can
we
call
the
rule?
H
Yes,
councilwoman
Burrell,
yes
become
sarcastic,
yes,
counselor
Lee
Garcia,
yes,
councilor,
Michael,
Garcia,
yes,
I'm!
Sorry,
Lindell,
yes,
councilor
Rivera,
yes,
councilman!
Yes,
mayor
Weber!
Yes,
the
amendment
to
the
amendment
okay,
we
now
have
an
amendment
as
amended
Is
there.
Further
discussion
of
the
amendment
as
amended.
H
H
Councilman,
yes,
councilwoman
viral,
yes
officer
cassette,
yes,
councilor,
Lee
Garcia,
yes,
councilor,
Michael,
Garcia,
yes,
counselor,
Lindell,
councilor
Rivera.
Yes,
however.
Yes,
we
have
a
main
motion
as
amended
Is
there
further
discussion
of
the
main
motion
as
amended.
H
H
Next
time
it's
consideration
of
a
resolution,
it's
sponsored
by
counselor,
Michael,
Garcia
and
counselor
Lee
Garcia.
It's
a
resolution
specifying
that
the
down
payment
assistance
program
included
in
the
fiscal
year
23
budget
be
available
to
all
full-time
city,
employees
and
I
believe
Bernadette,
Salazar
HR
director
is
available
for
this
item
and
also
I.
Think
Alexandra
Ladd
is
present
as
well.
Can
we
get
a
motion
motion
to
approve?
H
Is
there
a
second?
Second,
we
have
a
motion
to
approve
and
we
have
a
second
counselor
Garcia
counselor
Garcia,
which
of
you
would
like
to
speak.
First.
H
Mirror
once
again,
I
think
we've
gone
down
this
discussion
path,
time
and
time
again
and
I
I
believe
that
the
resolution
as
presented
just
speaks
for
itself.
H
H
That's
all
I
have
to
say
yeah,
Michael
Garcia
sure.
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
thank
you,
counselor
Garcia
I,
believe
you
know
offering
up
a
down
payment
assistance
program
should
be
an
opportunity
afforded
to
all
employees.
H
H
We've
talked
about
it
in
the
past.
All
the
resources
that
leave
the
city
when
our
employees
leave
the
city.
Can
you
imagine
if
we
offer
up
that
opportunity
for
those
resources
to
come
back
instead
of
just
saying?
Oh,
please
come
back.
We've
actually
offer
a
tangible
benefit
for
them
to
come
back
and
live
in
the
city.
Should
they
want
to
think
of
all
the
the
workers
that
can
benefit
from
this
land,
use,
constituent,
Services,
Parks
and
Rec
Environmental
Services,
folks
that
are
critical
cogs
to
the
machine?
H
So
with
that
being
said,
I
know
that
it's
the
way
the
resolution
currently
stands,
there's
not
support
it's
it's
the
I
think
everybody,
but
Mr
Mayors
voted
against
it,
and
so
with
that
I'd
like
to
offer
an
olive
branch,
because
during
the
committee
hearings,
it
was
spoken
a
couple
times
that
this
is
a
one-year
deal
we'll
we'll
offer
it
up
to
all
city
employees
next
year.
Let's
do
this
one
your
pilot
process
and
offer
it
up
to
everybody
else.
H
Next
year,
I'm
open
to
that,
and
so
I've
submitted
an
amendment
to
change
the
the
fiscal
year
as
it
stands
in
this
resolution
to
change
it
from
fiscal
year
23
to
fiscal
year.
24.
H
H
Go
ahead.
Do
you
want
to
finish
your
sentence?
I'll
wait
I'd
like
to
move
forward
with
the
proposed
amendment
that
I
have
mail
order.
Counselor
Garcia
I
just
saw
your
email
as
you
were,
describing
it
I'm
looking
at
our
caption
for
the
resolution,
that's
on
the
agenda
and
it
specifies
the
FY
23
budget
I.
Think
if
you
wanted
to
reintroduce
resolution.
H
Do
you
know
what
I
mean
so
we
haven't
gone
through
the
budget
process,
so
there
isn't
funding
allocated
for
that
purpose.
Yet
for
two
years
from
now,
does
that
make
sense.
H
I
understand
your
reasoning,
but
there
are,
for
example,
a
contract
we're
talking
about
here
in
later
on
in
the
agenda
where
we're
talking
about
future
expenses
being
accounted
for,
so
I
don't
see
anything
that
would
prevent
us
from
saying
in
fiscal
year
24.
We
would
like
to
accomplish
this
again.
It's
a
resolution
of
the
will
of
the
body.
It's
not
law,
we're
not
held
to
it.
It's
just
the
opinion,
formal
opinion
of
the
governing
body
that
we
would
like
to
move
forward
with
planning
for
this.
So
so
mayor,
Robert,
counselor
Garcia.
H
It
sounds
like
you
have
a
lot
of
ideas
that
we
would
need
to
write
down
into
resolution.
I
can't
predict
if
it
will
be
something
I
can
sign
up
or
not
right
now,
so
the
contract
you're
talking
about
that
are
multi-year
Appropriations.
They
all
have
language
to
accommodate
the
Bateman
act
which
allows
us
to
cancel
them
if
we
don't
appropriate
funds.
H
So
we
don't
budget
for
more
than
one
year
at
a
time
and
there's
specific
restrictions
on
that.
So
I
haven't
seen
the
proposed
resolution
that
you're
talking
about,
which
is
wouldn't
specifically.
H
Tie
funds
to
the
program,
whereas
this
one
does
so
I,
don't
think
we
can
amend
this
resolution.
It
sounds
like
there's
an
interest
in
a
different
resolution.
H
Sure
I
mean
so
without
due
respect,
Madam
security
attorney.
The
resolution
would
be
the
entire
same,
except
for
changing
the
fiscal
year
after
they
get
to
work
on
that,
because
I
know
that
this
current
resolution
is
not
supported.
Unfortunately,
I
think
the
unfortunate
thing
is
the
our
city,
employees,
who
have
asked
for
this
they're,
not
being
heard
their
wishes,
aren't
being
granted
so
to
speak,
I
think
situation
where
again
we're
creating
a
haves
and
have-nots
a
Workforce
needs.
H
H
H
A
couple
things
are
worth
pointing
out
number
one
we're
about
to
vote
later
tonight
on
an
eight
percent
increase
for
our
ask
me:
employees
that
is
as
far
as
I
know,
the
most
significant
single
pay
increase
in
quite
a
while,
and
the
notion
that
we're
somehow
treating
our
employees
poorly
discriminating
against
some
employees,
creating
haves
and
have-nots
I
think
is
not
supported
by
the
facts.
H
It
is
within
this
governing
body's
responsibility,
as
we
heard
over
and
over
and
over
again
this
during
during
the
speeches
from
the
floor
to
set
priorities,
we
have
heard
consistently
that
Public
Safety
is
a
priority
that
doesn't
mean
we're
discriminating
against
people
who
aren't
involved
with
Public
Safety.
It
simply
means
that
public
safety
and
health
today
is
a
critical
priority,
not
just
in
Santa
Fe,
but
across
the
country.
H
I
also
want
to,
and-
and
that
to
me
is
part
of
what
our
priority
has
to
be.
It's
a
policy
decision.
It's
not
discriminatory.
It's
not
setting
employee
against
employee.
It
simply
recognizing
that
when
it
comes
to
the
matter
of
public
health
and
safety,
we
as
a
governing
body
believe
that
as
a
pilot
project,
a
priority
for
our
First
Responders
absolutely
matches
the
needs
of
our
community,
but
we're
not
alone.
H
3172
the
homes
for
every
local
protector,
educator
and
responder,
known
as
the
helper
act
bipartisan
sponsorship
in
the
Congress.
The
helper
act
creates
a
home
loan
program
within
the
federal
housing
Administration
to
help
our
Law
Enforcement
Officers,
firefighters,
EMTs,
paramedics
and
pre-k,
through
12
teachers
by
making
home
ownership
more
affordable,
First
Responders
dedicate
their
lives
to
protecting
and
serving
their
fellow
Americans.
The
covid-19
pandemic
has
only
made
it
clearer.
The
ongoing
challenges
that
these
Brave
First
Responders
face.
It's
time
we
honor
them
for
their
service.
H
To
that
end,
the
helper
act
program
will
function
similarly
to
the
Home
Loan
program,
managed
by
the
Department
of
Veteran
Affairs.
Another
group
that
deserves
priority
this
program.
As
a
pilot
program
says
we
are
creating
a
priority
to
help
our
First
Responders
live
in
Santa
Fe
if
it
works,
and
we
have
the
budgetary
resources
to
expand
it
next
year,
I'm
all
in
favor
of
doing
that.
But
we
don't
know
what
the
macroeconomic
prospects
are.
There's
a
lot
of
talk
about
a
recession,
so
we
can't
pre-encumber
funds
that
we
don't
have.
H
What
we
need
to
do
is
add
to
our
package
of
offers
that
we
make
available
to
our
First
Responders
to
fill
those
slots
in
the
police
department
so
that
we
not
only
have
positions.
We
have
build
positions,
and
this
adds
to
our
capability
to
compete
for
that
very
scarce,
challenging
resource
of
First
Responders.
It
is
not
a
them
versus
us,
it
is
not
a
division,
it's
not
a
put
down
of
our
other
employees.
That's
the
point.
H
I
was
trying
to
make
with
the
nine
hundred
thousand
dollars
of
mortgage
assistance
that
we
are
already
voted
through,
that
we
are
going
to
use
various
tools
to
help
all
of
our
employees
be
able
to
live
in
the
city,
including
a
robust
eight
percent
pay
increase,
and
we
can
add
more
money
to
the
package
that
we
heard
tonight
from
Ms,
Ladd
and
and
her
relatively
new
employee,
that
this
is
something
that
matters
to
us
as
a
governing
body.
H
H
If
we'd
done
this
many
years
ago,
we
probably
would
have
more
police
officers
living
inside
the
city,
and
we
actually
went
through
the
exercise
of
a
straw
poll
of
both
police
and
fire
union
members
to
see
how
many
would
be
interested
and
the
response
was
very
strong,
very
positive.
It
is
not
a
random
assertion
that
many
people
are
in.
This
are
interested
with
no
factual
backup.
We
actually
have
preliminary
data
of
how
many
officers,
how
many
firefighters,
how
many
amts
would
move
or
buy
a
home
in
Santa
Fe.
H
Well,
I
want
to
see
if
anybody
else
wants
to
speak.
Councilor
cassett
you
have
the
floor.
I
did
one
one
other,
as
you
know,
as
we
start
to
think
about
these
types
of
programs
and
I.
H
Think
that
I
brought
this
up
in
the
quality
of
life
committee
about
the
mechanism
by
which
we're
helping
people
with
housing
and
given
the
levels
of
housing
in
the
area,
and
one
thing
that
I'd
like
for
us
to
explore,
rather
for
staff
to
be
exploring,
is
not
only
down
payment
assistance
but
also
I,
think
we
talked
about
rental
subsidies
or
housing
subsidies
and
what
other
cities
are
doing
and
I
think
that
that
is
part
of
this
conversation
as
we
move
forward
into
next
year,
as
we
are
launching
this
pilot,
but
but
just
some
of
the
other
things
that
I
want
to
make
sure
are
on
our
radar
as
we're
we're
continuing
to
shape
this.
H
H
Who
knows
if,
next
year,
we're
going
to
look
at
this
program
and
see
that
it
was
successful
and
that
we
wanted
it
to
move
forward,
but
but
I
do
want
to
continue
to
explore
both
the
success
of
this
program
as
well
as
what
some
other
models
might
look
like
as
well.
So
just
wanted
to
put
that
comment
out
there.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Council
window
I
do
want
to
say
on
this
that
you
know
we're
trying
this
as
a
pilot
project.
H
We
just
heard
a
thorough
report
tonight
on
our
policing
and
our
staffing,
and
this
is
a
finite
amount
of
money.
That's
allocated
to
this
from
the
budget.
If
you
add
more
people
into
the
program,
you
will
dilute
the
opportunity
for
police
officers
to
have
this
down
payment
assistance.
It's
750,
000
and.
H
I've
I've
worked
with
down
payment
assistance
in
a
previous
life
when
I
worked
at
Homewise,
and
it
only
goes
so
far
and
it
typically
gets
used
quickly
and
our
focus
with
this
money
has
been
declared
to
be
First,
Responders,
so
I'm
willing
to
stick
with
that
see
how
we
do
with
this
program
and
as
asked
perhaps
next
year
it
can
be
an
expanded
program,
wouldn't
that
be
terrific
if
we
could
allocate
more
money
and
bring
it
to
a
bigger
population,
but
for
today
it's
a
finite
amount
of
money
and
we
are
trying
to
do
everything
we
know
to
do
to
recruit
more
First
Responders
into
this
city.
H
H
H
Go
back
to
our
budget
season,
where
we
got
the
numbers
of
vacancy
rates
with
the
high
and
I.
Don't
know
if
it's
still
40
percent
I'm
sure
we're
still
hovering
around
40
percent,
with
Finance
you've
got
Public
Works
Public
Utilities
that
were
in
the
30
percent
I
think
Recreation
were
in
the
30
percent.
H
H
H
H
Spoken
earlier
about
the
priority
for
our
First
Responders,
we
can
all
agree.
First
Responders
were
there
and
helped
us
get
through
the
pandemic,
but
what
about
the
essential
workers
that
helped
the
city
get
through
the
pandemic?
What
about
those
trash
truck
drivers
that
were
picking
up
trash
in
the
height
of
the
pandemic?
H
H
H
We
can
come
to
a
creative
solution
where
what
we've
allocated
is
for
First
Responders.
Well,
let's
figure
out
some
additional
resources
where
the
first
750
is
First
Responders
only
nobody
else
is
eligible
and
we
figure
out
where
we
have
other
resources
to
come
up
with
the
pool
of
resources
for
the
rest
of
the
workforce.
H
Again,
if
there
was
a
will,
there
is
a
way
we
went
through
I
think
it
was
in
finance
where
we
were
given
the
GRT
numbers
and
were
exceeding
what
we
had
anticipated
and
we
were
talking
about
well,
we've
got
to
put
it
in
reserves
great,
but
what
what?
If
we
took
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
of
those
excess
million
million
and
a
half
that
we're
getting
every
month,
500
000
from
one
of
those
months
and
say:
hey
we
we
wish
we
could
do
more,
but
this
is
a
pilot.
H
H
That
it
was
talked
about
a
straw
poll
was
asked
me
even
asked
to
do
a
straw
poll
because
I'm
sure
it
would
come
back
very
favorable,
I'd
like
to
Blitz
city
manager.
Can
we
put
ask
ask
me
if
they're,
if
they're
in
Workforce,
how
much
of
their
Workforce
would
be
open
to
participating
in
the
down
payment
assistance
program,
because
I
I'm
I'd
love
to
know
those
numbers.
H
Again,
it
all
comes
down
to
how
can
we
best
support
our
entire
Workforce
completely
understand
the
purpose
behind
project,
but
when
we
see
workers
outside
of
the
First
Responders
proposed
core
of
this
project
that
are
going
to
be
leaving,
and
we
know
it's
going
to
happen-
we're
going
to
have
folks
leaving
I'd
like
to
maybe
ask
Ms
Salazar
how
many
folks
have
are
leaving
our
city,
our
Workforce,
because
they
can't
afford
to
commute
every
day,
especially
with
the
high
gas
prices.
They
used
to
be
able
to
make
it
work.
H
I
just
I
wish
we
would
have
the
will
to
push
the
way
forward
and
support
our
entire
Workforce.
Oh
yield,
Mr
Mayor.
Thank
you,
councilor
any
other
comments.
At
this
time
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second.
There
is
a
olive
branch
offered
that
we
can
take
up
at
another
time.
But
for
the
moment
we
could
you
call
the
roll
on
the
motion.
The
motion
is
to
adopt
the
resolution.
So
a
yes
vote
is
in
favor
and
a
no
vote
is
opposed
homes
or
cassette.
H
H
Yes,
we
sign
them
on.
The
agenda.
Is
Item
B
its
request
for
approval
of
a
budget
adjustment,
reallocation
in
the
streets
division
within
the
public
works
department
in
the
amount
of
ninety
six
thousand
five
hundred
dollars
to
fund
the
chip
ceiling
of
Cerro
Gordo
Road
Mark
Brooks.
Our
project
administrator
was
the
sponsor
of
this
item.
Your
motion
move
to
approved.
Second,
we
have
a
motion.
We
have
a
second.
Is
there
a
discussion?
H
H
H
H
And
we
get
a
motion
move
to
approve.
Second,
okay:
we
have
a
motion
in
several
seconds:
they're
Bernadette
you're,
poised
to
tell
us
something.
What
do
we
need
mayor?
Sorry
before
we
move
on
I
had
counselor
Lindell
with
the
motion
and
counselor
Michael
Garcia
with
the
second.
It
was
Captain,
America,
okay
and
then
counselor
Villarreal
as
well.
H
H
H
H
H
Absolutely
just
really
quickly,
very
straight
Mr
Mayor
counselors.
Excuse
me,
the
the
topic
is
pretty
straightforward.
For
the
last
four
years,
the
city
has
been
using
one
security
company
to
cover
all
of
our
security
needs.
H
We've
over
the
course
of
the
pandemic.
We
began
experiencing
kind
of
a
bottleneck
and
services.
The
company
struggled
with
fully
Staffing,
and
we
decided
that
the
best
way
for
us
to
try
and
improve
the
services
the
city
receives
was
by
diversifying
the
number
of
companies
we
are
working
with.
We
moved
from
just
a
straight
contract
method
to
this
on-call
method.
We'll
have
four,
hopefully
soon.
H
Five
providers
that
departments
or
entities
within
the
city
can
work
with
to
open
their
own
POS,
diversifying
again
the
providers
we're
working
with
helping
ensure
we're
getting
the
coverage
we
need
and
doing
our
best
to
address
the
city's
security
needs
and
with
that
I'm
happy
to
stand
for
questions
great.
Thank
you.
Are
there
questions
for
Mr
Burnett,
counselor,
Garcia,
Michael,
Mr
Mayor?
Thank
you
Sam
for
providing
all
the
information
after
we
weren't
able
to
get
any
last
meeting.
So
I
really
appreciate
that
I
guess
the
only
request
I
have
is.
H
Staff
just
goes
back
and
corrects
the
record
in
Prime
gov,
but
I
noticed
that
the
the
documents
for
finance
and
public
works
and
utilities
now
have
the
unredacted
versions
and
given
that
the
document
that
was
available
during
both
of
those
committees
was
redacted,
I
think
the
record
should
show
that,
given
in
10
years,
if
somebody
goes
back
and
wants
to
watch
that
meeting
because
they
can't
sleep
at
night,
they're
able
to
go
back
and
say:
oh
yes,
this
is
a
document
that
they're
talking
about
because
and
then,
if
we
follow
through
the
process,
tonight's
document
is
unredacted,
so
I,
don't
I,
guess
that's
a
maybe
a
question
for
the
City
attorney.
H
Is
there
a
problem
with
us
putting
the
redacted
version
as
it
was
presented
during
those
committees,
mayor
Robert,
Council,
Garcia
I
haven't
reviewed
the
redactive
packet
I
just
heard
there
was
one
I
haven't
looked
at
what
was
redacted,
but
my
understanding
is.
There
was
content
from
proposals
included
and
we're
not
allowed
to
share
content
from
proposals
until
the
final
award.
H
So,
even
though
it
was
publicly
available
all
the
way
up
until
at
least
Monday
night,
why
couldn't
we
put
back
what
was
already
out
there
live
for
public
consumption,
mayor
council,
Garcia
I
did
circulate
the
ethics
opinion
from
the
state
ethics
commission.
It
would
be
an
ethical
violation
for
the
city
to
continue
knowingly
posting
anything,
that's
prohibited
from
being
posted.
Okay,
thank
you
for
that
clarification.
H
I
just
was
trying
to
stay
consistent
with
the
way
it
was
presented
to
us,
but
if
we
can't
move
forward,
then
I
understand
that
I
did
bring
up
to
Sam
during
Public,
Works
and
utilities.
There
are,
in
addition,
I
think
it
was
11
sites
that
were
identified.
Was
it
some
nine
some
somewhere
along
that
it
would
be
great
for
if
Sam
you
can
reach
out
to
us
or
somehow
figure
out
what
might
else
be
priority
sites
just
based
on
challenges?
H
I
know
that
at
any
given
time
a
year
there
might
be
more
people
visiting
an
area
might
need
more
security,
that
type
of
stuff
and
and
I'd
like
for
us,
maybe
as
a
governing
body
to
understand
how
we
go
about
that
process.
To
say:
can
we
have
this
security
Now
provide
services
to
this
area
or
what
is
that
process?
H
Look
like
and
I
know
we
chatted
about
that
in
public
works
and
utilities,
but
we
can
have
a
better
understanding
and
it
doesn't
need
to
be
in
the
meeting
if
we
can
do
it
offline
totally
totally
happy
with
that,
but
thank
you
for
for
everything
all
the
support
you
provided
over
the
last
couple
days,
providing
all
the
information
I,
really
appreciate
it.
Mr
Burnett,
with
that
note
of
comments,
Mr
Mayor.
Thank
you.
Councilor.
Any
other
comments
on
this
item.
H
I've
just
been
informed
by
the
City
attorney.
We
can
postpone
or
delay
the
executive
session
to
next
meeting,
but
we're
still
going
to
have
a
foot
race
to
the
finish
line,
to
get
our
work
done
by
11
30..
Do
we
want
to
let's
vote
on
this
item
and
then
we'll
we'll
talk
about
how
we
get
through
the
evening's
work?
So
if
there's
no
other
discussion
on
this
item,
can
you
please
councilman
beer
out?
Did
you
want
to
speak
to
this
item?
H
Yeah
just
wanted
to
say
a
couple
things:
I
I
realized
that
the
attorney's
office
said
that
if
there
was
something
not
written
and
our
key,
we
can't
bring
up
issues
that
were
not
stated
in
the
RFP,
and
you
know
I've
been
since
the
beginning,
since
I've
actually
sat
on
Council
I've
talked
about
the
need
to
really
look
hard
about
some
of
these.
H
H
I
really
think
we
need
to
think
about
the
rfps
and
actually
asking
if
their
corporation
or
business
has
had
any
or
if
they're,
in
Good,
Financial
and
social
spending
or
some
kind
of
question
around
that,
and
since
we
don't
have
that
in
the
RFP,
we
can't
hold
them
accountable
for
that,
and
so
I
don't
know
if
staff
has
any
like
solutions
for
that
into
the
future,
because
for
this
case,
this
RFP
is
not
going
to
be
able
to
be.
H
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
Mr,
Mayor,
councilor,
Via,
Real,
I,
think
I.
Think
it's
a
very
valid
point
and
it's
well
taken
by
me
and
I
I
will
do
my
best
going
forward
when
my
division's
issuing
rfps
to
ensure
we're
working
on
developing
a
metric
that
would
speak
to
that
I.
Don't
know
exactly
how
that
would
work,
but
I'm
sure
working
with
the
purchasing
department.
We
would
be
able
to
come
up
with
something
so
going
forward.
I
will
work
to
incorporate
that
yeah.
H
There's
a
way
to
do
it
and
I
appreciate
you
considering
it
I,
just
think
we
just
let
this
bet
go
on
and
I
just
want
us
to
keep
putting
that
in
the
Forefront
and
then
the
other
thing
is
like
some
of
us
in
District
for
our
district
and
district
one
for
the
rail
yard.
There's
been
this
conversation
about
trying
to
coordinate
with
the
railyard
Corp
in
terms
of
our
contract
with
security
and
I.
Don't
really
see
that
in
the
RFP
and
so
I'm
just
curious.
H
I
mean
I,
guess
I
just
want
us
to
understand
if
there's
a
better
way
to
coordinate,
because
you
know
there's
these
different
layers
of
jurisdiction
there
yet
they're
all
the
same
problem,
they're
all
in
the
rail
yard,
they're
not
just
on
the
public
area
they're,
also
in
the
private
private
areas,
so
I'm
just
wanting
to
hear
I,
don't
know
who
would
be
able
to
answer
this
if
there's
a
way
that
we've
thought
about
the
coordination
efforts
on
the
rail
yard
as
it
relates
to
this
RFP,
specifically
Mr
Mayor,
councilor,
Via
Real
I
do
know
that
there
is
an
ongoing
conversation
between
the
city
and
the
railyard
community
Corp
about
either
a
shared
or
or
some
variation
of
a
shared
security
contract
in
the
rail
yard.
H
I
I
can't
speak
to
to
to
where
that
will
end
up.
I
do
know
that
this
particular
RFP
and
the
contracts
we're
awarding
right
now,
don't
directly
impact
the
outcome
of
that
conversation.
So
moving
forward
with
this
would
not
prevent
or
or
make
a
predetermination
in
that
ongoing
conversation
with
sfrcc.
H
That
would
be
going
towards
security,
or
is
this
it
Mr
Mayor,
councilor,
Via
Real,
absolutely,
and
it's
important
to
note
that
this
these
contracts
being
awarded
right
now,
that's
just
a
that
is
just
a
an
amount
of
money
associated
with
the
contract,
but
is
not
directly
related
to
any
account
within
side
of
the
city.
H
So
you
know
that
that
4.4
million
dollars
is
broken
down
over
four
four
years,
so
1.1
million
dollars
of
capacity,
so
a
various
entity
Department,
whoever
it
is
inside
of
the
city,
could
take
their
own
funding
that
they
requested
for
the
fiscal
year
reach
out
to
one
of
the
security
companies
ask
for
a
quote
for
whatever
Security
Services
they
felt
like
they
needed
and
then
encumber
their
own
money
against
the
contract.
So
this
is
not
a
guarantee
of
money
to
any
of
the
vendors
and
is
also
dependent
on
entities
within
side
of
the
city
out.
H
You
know,
planning
ahead
budgeting
funding
for
security
and
then
encumbering
it
through
one
of
these
contracts.
I
may
be
talking
around
your
answer.
If
you
want
me
to
clarify,
please
let
me
know
well
I
understand
I,
guess
I
was
wondering
if
there
was
another
pot
of
money
or
other
funding
sources
that
we're
not
aware
of
that
may
be
coming
down
the
pipe
as
it
relates
to
security
efforts
for
City
facilities
or
yeah
Mr
Mayor,
councilor,
Via,
Real,
I,
I,
I,
honestly
can't
speak
to
where
they're,
where
unknown
funding
sources
may
be
at
this
time.
H
Okay,
but
these
are
all
the
ones
that
you
know
of
right
now.
This
is
4.4
million
yeah
Mr
Mayor,
councilor
Via
Real
again,
the
4.4
million
is
just
a
think
of
it
as
a
a
capacity.
It's
not
actually.
The
4.4
million
is
derived
from
our
average
annual
expenditure
on
security
is
about
1.1
million
dollars.
We
were
doing
a
four-year
contract,
so
we
made
the
contracts
for
4.4,
but
this
is
all
just
based
on
averages.
H
Money
won't
actually
be
spent
encumbered
and
spent
until
these
contracts
are
in
place
and
people
or
you
know,
entities
throughout
the
city
come
forward
with
their
own
funding
and
start
encumbering
it.
So
the
actual
amount
of
money
we're
going
to
spend
per
year.
I
guess
I'm
saying
is
unknown
until
people
start
spending
it.
If
that
makes
any
sense,
yes,
it
does
and
then
you
said
said
the
Allied
was
specific
to
the
airport
and
that's
why
they
made
it
into
the
pool,
even
though
we've
been
dissatisfied
with
their
service.
Is
that
correct?
H
That
was
a
definite
a
factor
in
the
decision-making
process.
I
have
to
admit.
I
was
not
a
member
of
the
RFP
panel.
H
H
H
Councilor
Lindell,
yes,
Council
Rivera.
Yes,
customer
work;
yes,
councilwoman
Villarreal,
yes,
I'm
sarcastic,
yes,
I'm,
sorry,
Lee
Garcia,
yes,
Michael,
Garcia,
I'm,
sorry!
Yes!
Yes,
all
right
motion
has
been
up.
Thank
you,
sir.
Now
can
we
get
a
quick
motion
to
extend
beyond
11
30
and
then
move
so
I
moved
back
in
okay,
we've
got
a
motion
to
extend
our
hours.
Beyond
11
30,
it's
11,
23
now,
I
think
we
won't
take
a
lot
of
time,
but
let's
get
Beyond
11
30..
Can
you
call
the
roll
please
Council,
Rivera
councilor
my
work?
Yes,
councilman
burial?
H
Yes,
counselor
Castle,
yes,
councilor!
We
Garcia,
yes
comes
from
Michael
Garcia,
yes,
I'm!
Sorry,
Lindell!
Yes,
mayor
weather,
yes,
motion
has
been
approved.
Okay,
we
want
to
postpone
the
executive
session.
What
would
you
like
us
to
do?
Madam
City
attorney
mayor
Warburg
counselors,
if
you
could
postpone
the
executive
session
and
the
two
action
items
that
or
after
the
executive
session
I
would
appreciate
that.
Thank
you
so
moved.
H
H
Yes,
yes,
I'll
go
Lee
Garcia,
yes,
Professor
Michael
Garcia,
yes,
counselor
Lindell,
yes,
Council
Rivera,
air
Weber.
Yes,
thank
you
for
that.
I
believe.
Our
next
item
is
Madison
City
attorney,
Mr,
City
attorney
mayor,
it's
actually
Matters
from
the
city
manager,
my
apologies
man.
It
matters
from
the
city
manager,
Mr,
Mayor,
counselors
good
evening.
H
My
presentation
is
the
short
two
hours
just
kidding.
So,
first
of
all,
if
I
don't
see
you
this
weekend,
happy
Fourth
of
July
have
a
great
Fourth
of
July
weekend.
H
H
Last
year,
you
all,
as
a
government
body
elected
not
to
include
Juneteenth
on
the
calendar
for
activities
and,
frankly,
this
is
something
that
didn't
really
come
to
us
until
just
before
the
holiday,
and
so
we
elected
not
to
sort
of
rush
out
to
sort
of
have
me
offer
administrative
leave.
I
just
want
to
plan
for
you,
that's
something
you
might
want
to
consider
next
calendar
year.
H
I
want
to
thank
everybody
who
came
and
participated
in
the
pride
parade.
We
had
a
great
turnout
of
folks
and
I.
We
got
a
really
positive
response
by
all
the
people
who
were
watching
the
parade
and
I
want
to
make
it
a
point
to
highlight
that
I
had
multiple
people
come
up
to
me,
so
we
were
pretty
early
in
the
parade
route
for
those
of
you
who
weren't
there,
the
police,
car
fire
truck
and
then
a
little
bit
of
a
break
in
a
recycling
truck.
H
So
when
the
parade
route
ended,
the
all
the
police,
there
were
seven
police
officers
were
there
stood
at
the
end
of
the
Parade
route
and
clapped
and
cheered
for
everybody
that
went
by
and
I
had
a
lot
of
queer
people
come
up
to
me
and
say
they
were
baffled.
They've,
never
seen
such
support
from
law
enforcement
for
the
queer
Community
and
what
a
big
deal
it
was
for
them
that
they
were
there.
H
So
we're
grateful
to
Chief
joy
and
his
team
and
everybody
who
came
both
from
law
enforcement
and
from
the
firefighters
to
do
that.
I'm
going
to
flag
real,
quick
I'm
going
to
jump
over
a
couple
things.
This
is
so
late.
I
had
a
great
lunch
today
with
Greg
Shafer,
the
county
manager
and
we're
working
to
start
to
meet
monthly
and
looking
for
ways
in
which
the
county
and
the
city
can
work
collaboratively
in
a
regional
approach
to
many
of
the
issues
facing
our
city
and
the
county.
So
we'll
have
more
information
for
that
down.
H
The
road
I
just
want
to
give
a
quick
covet,
update
we're
not
done
for
the
month
yet,
but
June
has
turned
out
to
be
the
second
highest
month
in
terms
of
the
number
of
cases
for
city
employees.
In
may,
we
have
58
cases
that
were
reported
in
June.
As
of
this
morning,
we
had
110
cases,
so
not
quite
double,
but
pretty
close.
H
The
highest
month
is
January
for
those
who
are
getting
it
home.
That
was
160
cases
and
then
my
last
thing
that
I'm
just
I
want
to
take
five
minutes
or
so
10
minutes
to
talk
real
quick
about
the
banner
issue.
H
I'm
really
grateful
for
all
of
the
people
who
came
tonight
and
told
their
personal
stories
their
family
stories.
I
am
learning
not
to
speak
for
others,
but
I.
Think
I
speak
for
all
of
you
and
for
the
staff
about
how
important
veterans
are
to
this
community
and
how
we
want
to
continue
honoring
the
veterans,
a
sort
of
quick
analysis
of
how
we
ended
up
where
we
are
is
to
highlight
that
in
no
way
shape
or
form
have
we
ended
the
program.
H
We
are
trying
to
find
a
new
place
that
we
can
hang
the
banners
safely,
and
so
what
sort
of
led
us
to
where
we
are
now
was
that
earlier
this
year,
the
question
was
raised
whether
or
not
we
could
hang
three
banners
on
a
pole.
That's
what
led
us
to
reach
out
to
the
manufacturer,
who
told
us
that
that
was
a
no-go.
It's
not
safe
to
hang
banners
at
all
on
the
polls.
One
of
the
things
that's
been
hard
and
there's
been
some
confusion
in
the
community
about
this.
H
Is
that
not
all
light
poles
are
the
same
even
within
the
city
of
Tampa?
Not
all
lightful
is
the
same.
Some
paying
signs
something
street
lights,
something
nothing
and
so
part
of
what
we've
committed
to
do
is
in
the
long
term,
is
to
look
at
doing
a
survey
of
all
the
light
poles
and
disease.
Then
I
figured
to
see
what
we
have
we're
willing
to
look
at
whether
or
not
just
that
we
have
information.
How
much
would
it
cost
to
install
or
to
replace
the
light
poles
on
Cerrillos
Road
so
that
they
can
hold
banners?
H
I,
frankly,
would
assume
that's
a
little
cost
prohibitive,
but
we
want
to
get
all
the
data
that
we
can.
We
gathered
a
round
table.
A
few
weeks
ago,
Council
Garcia
came
Michael,
Garcia
came
gathered,
Mr
Christie,
a
couple
of
members,
our
veterans,
advisory
boards
and
representatives
of
other
veterans
groups
in
the
community
and
to
start
talking
about
what's
on
the
table,
what
do
we
want
to
do
and
we
talked
about
a
lot
of
different
things.
It
does
come
back
to
the
banners
and
wanting
them
to
be,
but
we
talked
about.
H
Maybe
the
banners
can
be
on
the
Plaza.
Maybe
we
figure
out
how
to
put
the
banners
on
every
city
property
so
they're
out
front
of
every
school
I'm.
Sorry,
it
doesn't
say:
property,
Cool,
Rec,
Center,
City,
Hall,
all
of
our
city
locations
do
folks
want
to
parade.
Do
we
want
to
put
you
know
what
what
can
we
do?
Do
we
want
to
designate
a
part
for
all
letter?
It's
all
those
options
are
on
the
table.
H
Ultimately,
the
answer
to
that
question
comes
down
to
you
all.
It
will
take
action
by
the
governing
body
to
move
the
location
for
the
banners
to
a
different
location.
At
this
round
table,
there
was
sort
of
a
consensus
to
bifurcate
Solutions.
The
first
is
the
short
term.
What
can
we
do
this
summer
to
get
the
banners
up
as
quickly
as
possible?
It
doesn't
have
to
be
a
permanent
location.
Let's
just
get
them
up
as
quickly
as
we
can.
The
second
option
is
the
longer
term.
H
How
do
we
plan
for
next
year
and
the
years
after
that,
there's
been
a
decent
amount
of
information
that
we've
been
Gathering
as
a
result
of
that
round?
Table
and
part
of
what
has
led
to
some
of
the
confusion.
Is
that,
with
this
new
information
from
the
manufacturer
that
it's
unsafe
to
put
any
banners
on
the
polls
on
Cerritos
Road
the
city's
not
willing
to
assume
the
liability?
So
that's
a
big
deal.
H
That
is,
if
God
forbid,
there
were
an
accident
and
we
had
three
banners
on
a
light
pole
and
the
wind
blew
it
down
and
it
killed
someone.
We
would
likely
be
looking
at
a
multi-million
dollar
lawsuit
against
the
city,
because
we
knew
it
was
dangerous,
but
we
did
it
anyway,
so
the
city
wasn't
willing
to
take
on
that
liability.
We
spoke
with
leaders,
American
Legion
they're,
not
in
a
place
that
they
can
take
on
that
liability.
P
m
is
not
willing
to
take
on
that
liability.
H
As
a
result
of
the
Round
Table
meeting,
we
were
asked
to
reach
out
to
the
director
of
the
Department
of
Transportation,
so
they
would
take
on
the
liability.
We've
not
heard
back
from
them
yet
and
frankly,
I
don't
think
we
will
because
I
don't
think
they're
willing
to
take
on
the
liability
either,
and
so
part
of
this
is
about
not
trying
to
relitigate
Cerritos
Road,
but
what
some
of
the
other
options
are?
So
we've
begun
to
do
a
little
bit
of
research
about
what's
happening
in
other
communities.
H
It
was
raised
the
question's
been
raised
at
these
meetings.
Well,
5
000
towns
are
doing
it.
Why
can't
we
do
it
in
Santa
Fe,
and
the
answer
is:
there's
a
lot
of
different
ways
to
do
it.
A
lot
of
the
communities
that
we
found
so
far
are
using
the
decorative
light
poles,
which
are
sort
of
the
light
poles
that
exist
in
the
rail
yard
now
they're,
also
using
different
sizes
of
banner.
So
I
want
to
flag
some
pretty
real
quick.
H
You
saw
all
the
folks
that
were
here
tonight
by
and
large,
had
the
handheld
Banner
that
they
could
hold
up.
One
of
the
concerns
at
the
round
table
was
that
some
banners
had
been
put
up
this
year
that
were
being
damaged
by
the
wind.
H
Some
were
being
ripped,
they
were
being
torn
apart
and
so
ultimately,
p
m
was
not
in
a
position
that
they
could
take
down
the
ones
that
had
been
put
up,
and
so,
after
some
consultation
with
our
team
and
our
public
safety
concerns,
I
authorized
the
public
works
department
to
take
them
down,
so
they
were
delivered
to
my
office
today.
So
if
I
can
just
real
quick
show
you
the
size
of
the
banners
that
are
being
put
up
in
three
or
three.
H
Can't
hear
you
John
I
can't
hear
you
I
can
now
I,
don't
see
you,
you
just
walk
outside
of
the
brain
cancer.
Sorry
about
that!
What
I
was
saying
is
that
the
banner
that
I
have
here
that
I'll
show
again
to
the
crowd
is
one
of
the
banners
that
was
taken
off
of
a
light
pole
this
year
from
Cerritos
Road,
and
it's
just
really
to
illustrate
that
hey.
H
Okay,
all
right
sorry
about
that.
So
the
point
of
that
is
to
say
that
what
we've
seen
in
some
other
communities
is
that
they're
not
going
on
the
massive
light
poles
like
what
we
have
on
Cerritos
Road
they're,
going
on
decorative
light
poles
and
in
many
cases
they're
using
the
smaller
banners
that
we
saw
tonight
and
I
think
some
concerns
that
we've
heard
from
veterans
groups
and
from
veterans
directly
is
the
concern.
H
If
the
public
can
reach
them
the
concern
that
they
could
be
desecrated
and
so
I
think
there's
options
for
you
all
to
consider
around.
If
the
smaller
size
Banners
are
what's
used
to
be
put
up
in
public,
maybe
they
don't
have
to
go
as
high
as
they
might
be
on
Cerrillos
Road,
but
there's
just
a
lot
of
options
in
that
regard.
H
As
part
of
the
conversation
at
the
Roundtable
and
I
am
done,
is
that
the
Rail
Yards
were
sort
of
identified
as
a
likely
place
to
do
this,
at
least
in
the
short
term,
the
sort
of
decorative
polls
that
we've
seen
get
used
in
other
communities.
There
are
67
of
them
in
the
rail
yard
and
on
Guadalupe
Street
up
to
about
West
Alameda,
a
handful
of
the
light
poles
on
the
West
Alameda
near
West.
Alameda
do
fall
within
the
historical
review
area
and
those
would
have
to
be
subject
to
that.
H
It
may
I
think
there's
some
addition
to
the
Guadalupe
District
in
doing
banners
of
their
own
again
this
year.
So
there
are
some
considerations
to
be
made
that
the
light
pole
in
the
rail
yard
can
be
used
for
banners.
They
can
hold
one
Banner
per
light
pole,
and
so
there
would
need
to
be
some
sort
of
system
set
up
where
the
banners
would
be
rotated
for
this
year.
That
is
something
that
we've
seen
in
other
communities
as
well.
H
H
If
we
can
fast
track
it
through
committees,
have
it
voted
on
the
end
of
July,
that's
about
as
fast
as
I
think
we
can
go,
but
those
are
determinations
that
you
all
have
to
make
and
with
that
speaking,
caffeinatedly
entirely
I
I
know
my
time
back.
Thank
you,
Mr
Mayor,
thank
you.
City
manager,
Matters
from
the
city
attorney.
H
H
H
The
last
four
meetings
have
been
at
a
variety
of
locations
across
the
city,
and
tomorrow
is
the
last
meeting
in
which
there
will
be
a
final
vote
on
a
new
plan,
and
then
I
also
just
want
to
note
that
I
will
be
bringing
forward
presentations
in
July
and
August
both
for
a
community
engagement
process.
I've
mentioned
this
I'm
working
with
a
contractor
and
we've
actually
developed
a
12-page
guide
that
really
navigates
us
through
how
we
do
community
engagement
and
what
our
outcomes
are
for
Community
engagement.
H
It
also
provides
some
education
on
the
differences
between
Community,
Education,
Community
engagement
and
then
other
types
of
community
involvement,
and
then
the
language
accessibility
study
that
we've
all
been
pretty
excited
for
should
be
presented
in
August
as
well.
With
recommendations
for
what
we
are
doing
and
we
have
not
been
doing
as
well-
switching
really
quick
gears-
we
do
have
a
movie
in
the
park
on
Friday
night
at
Swan
park.
It
is
Space
Jam.
We
have
been
moving
around
Parks
across
Santa
Fe,
so
that's
the
one
we
have
on
Friday
night.
H
H
It
looks
like
we
will
be
having
a
formal
ribbon
cutting
sometime
next
week,
either
on
Wednesday
or
Thursday,
and
then
we'll
have
a
community
pool
party
on
July
30th
that
will
include
Pizza
prizes,
music,
the
fire
truck
spray
down
and
the
community
splash,
and
then
just
want
to
note
that
we
have
been
running
successful
communication
campaigns
for
firework
safety
across
many
platforms
with
really
great
engagement.
We've
also
been
running
some
paid
advertisement
for
those
as
well.
So
just
a
few
quick
updates,
I
know
what
time
it
is.
H
Thank
you
I
think
we're
all
a
little
tired
tonight.
We
do
have
next
Communications
from
the
governing
body.
Council
Rivera
I
will
start
with
you,
sir.
Thank
you,
councilor
Michael
Garcia.
Thank
you.
Mr
Mayor
I
just
want
to
give
a
quick
shout
out
to
my
wife,
it's
our
anniversary
today
and
that
didn't
participate
depending
I'll
I'll
day
away
from
her.
So
if
I
can
get
home
quick
enough,
that
I
can
spend
the
last
two
minutes
of
this
nursery
together,
but
yeah
we're
all
on
Team
Garcia
to
get
you
home.
H
But
with
that
everybody
please
have
a
safe
Fourth
of
July
enjoy
Independence
Day
and
light
a
sparkler
in
honor
of
our
nation's
Independence.
That's
what
I
got
Mr
Mayor!
Thank
you,
sir
councilor
Lindo.
H
Thank
you
mayor
shout
out
for
great
pride
was
it
was.
It
was
an
astounding
amount
of
fun
and
the
participation
was
unbelievably
run
that
corner
onto
the
plaza
and
it's
one
of
the
one
of
the
Great
Moments,
just
unbelievable,
happy
Fourth
of
July
to
everyone.
H
I
wish
my
dear
partner,
Maria
Sanchez,
a
happy
Fourth
of
July
it'll
be
our
26th
anniversary,
and
she
continues
to
give
me
the
Grace
of
undeserved
forgiveness
on
a
daily
basis.
So
I'm
thankful
for
that.
Thank
you,
counselor
councilman.
H
It
just
sympathy
to
councilor
Michael
Garcia
I
spent
my
first
wedding
anniversary
in
Farmington
Staffing,
the
legislature's
Health
and
Human
Services
committee
and
I.
Tell
you
that
committee
meeting
would
not
end
and
I
still
had
to
drive,
so
I
I
feel
I
feel
for
you.
That's
all
I
have
mayor.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
celsic
acid.
Thank
you.
So
much
mayor,
happy
anniversary,
councilor
Garcia
I
wanted
to
recognize
Med
a
from
our
fire
department,
Damien
Lucero
and
Keith
Armijo.
H
My
son
had
a
we're
not
entirely
sure
what
it
is
a
neurological
event.
Potentially
a
seizure
on
last
Monday
and
I
had
to
call
the
ambulance.
They
were
there
within
I'm.
Not
sure
I
was
a
mother
with
my
four-year-old
having
a
seizure
so
but
very
very
quickly,
and
our
the
team
was
amazing.
I
mean
they
were
just.
H
They
were
really
incredible,
just
how
calm
they
were,
which
was
really
huge
for
me
and
how
professional
they
were
and
just
the
way
that
they,
you
know,
obviously
quickly
got
us
to
the
hospital
made
accommodations
for
my
for
my
little
guy.
That
was
obviously
not
himself
at
that
moment
and
I
was
just
beyond
impressed
and
so
incredibly
grateful
for
the
professionalism
and
the
care
that
we
received
and
but
really
just
just
truly
Blown
Away.
H
You
never
want
to
have
to
experience
that,
but
my
goodness
was
I
did
I
feel
really
confident
in
the
care
that
we
were
receiving
from
the
Santa
Fe
fire
department,
so
I
just
I
really
wanted
to
recognize
them
and
we're
very
lucky
as
a
community
that
we
have
have
these
individuals
taking
care
of
us
other
than
that.
Pride
was
wonderful,
as
councilor
Lindell
mentioned.
H
Thank
you
so
much
too
John
and
to
Christine
and
to
the
team,
for
you
know
getting
the
city
floats
there
or
a
series
of
cars
and
everybody
that
was
there.
It
was.
It
was
a
really
wonderful
experience
and,
of
course,
to
the
organizers
and
the
work
that
they
do
and
then
happy
Fourth
of
July.
Everybody
hope
everyone
has
a
really
safe
and
wonderful
holiday.
H
My
kiddo's
Fine
By,
the
way
everyone
looks
really
worried,
he's
fine.
We
do
have
to
visit
a
neurologist
in
September,
but
he's
he's
good,
so
good
news,
cancer,
Lee
Garcia.
Thank
you,
mayor
I,
just
again,
Happy
Father's
Day
to
everybody.
I
think
that
was
this
month,
counselor
Garcia,
happy
anniversary
and
Happy
Juneteenth
happy
pride
month.
That's
all
I
have
for
tonight.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Counselor
I'll,
be
brief.
I
know
it's
late,
don't
forget!
Counselor,
oh
I'm,
sorry,
councilwoman
burial!
You
were
on
the
screen
waiting
patiently.
H
I
was
so
used
to
seeing
you
in
the
flesh.
You
have
the
floor.
Man
Mr
Mayor
before
can
I
wish
her
a
happy
birthday
on
July
4th.
Yes,
of
course,
only
one
again
21
again
thank
you.
Andrew,
hey
thanks,
councilor
Villarreal.
H
Right
now,
yeah
I,
don't
know
if
everyone
knows
but
I
did
get
covered
and
it
was
not
pretty
and
I'm
still
recovering
the
good
thing
about
the
fact
that
I
had
to
miss
pride
and
haven't
missed
the
pride
event
or
festivities
in
like
12
years
or
so.
I
was
thinking
about
it
and
bummed
I.
H
Wasn't
there
and
then
I
checked
on
Facebook
and
the
police
department
had
Facebook
live
so
I
got
to
see
the
is
awesome
and
so
I
felt
like
I
was
kind
of
part
of
it,
but
not
really
so
it
was
really
sweet
to
just
be
everyone
so
happy
and
all
the
powers
and
people
participating
and
also
talking
about
making
the
connection
with
lgbtq
I
write
with
also
thought
of
the
autonomy
and
abortion
rights,
and
so
it
was
really
nice
to
see
those
connections
at
the
parade.
H
So
I
wanted
to
just
congratulate
the
human
rights
Alliance.
It
seems
like
they
had
a
successful
Pride
event
or
events.
I
should
say:
I
know
they
got
rained
out
on
one
of
them,
but
overall
I
think
it
was
very
successful
and
thank
you
to
staff,
particularly
John
Blair,
for
making
having
the
city
have
a
presence
like
a
real
presence
with
staff
and
I
think
that
tradition
will
continue.
I
think
it
was
beautiful
and
for
those
of
you
that
couldn't
make
it
Juneteenth
was
amazing.
H
Even
though
again
the
rain
came,
we
were
blessed
with
rain,
but
so
many
excited
people
to
be
able
to
participate
and
be
seen
at
the
plaza
celebrating
Juneteenth.
And
yes,
if
we
would
have
known
that
that
was
going
to
be
a
holiday
that
we
needed
to
make
sure
to
like
explicitly
stay
on
the
calendar,
because
I
think
at
least
for
me
I
assumed
it
was
because
it's
a
Federal
holiday
so
we'll
make
sure
to
make
that
change
for
the
calendar
next
year
and
I.
Think
that's
it.
H
Thank
you
for
those
of
you
reaching
out
to
the
send
well
wishes,
so
I
can
still
trying
to
recover
from
covet
and
happy
that
we
were
able
to
get
a
hybrid
in
place
to
be
able
to
make
that
happen.
So
that
I
could
still
participate
and
I
think
that's
it.
Everyone
have
a
happy
birth
and
safe
time,
and
hopefully
we
won't
have
to
be
putting
out
any
fires
during
that
time.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
and
get
well.
I
will
be
brief.
Pride
was
amazing,
John.
H
Thank
you
for
all
your
hard
work.
You
really
took
us
to
a
different
level
as
a
city
with
the
participation
of
so
many
different
opponents
of
city
government,
so
many
people
marching
together
having
fun
handing
out
things
to
the
people
in
the
crowd
and
a
lot
of
happy
people
at
the
end
of
a
hard
week
with
Supreme
Court
decisions
that
left
many
of
us
very
disturbed.
H
We
had
a
large
contingent
this
evening.
Around
veterans
I
had
the
great
honor
of
spending
Monday
morning
with
the
Secretary
of
Veterans,
Affairs,
Mr,
McDonough
and
I
have
to
say
number
one.
He
is
a
remarkable
individual,
a
really
committed
man
who
cares
deeply
about
our
veterans.
He
spent
the
morning
first
Cemetery
with
great
respect
for
the
people
and
families
represented
there,
and
then
we
went
over
to
the
vet
center
and
met
with
the
staff
at
the
vet
center.
H
Interesting
in
terms
of
the
other
part
of
our
evening's
debate
or
discussion,
consideration
the
two
issues
at
the
top
of
the
vet
center
staff
list
of
concerns.
The
first
was
homelessness
and
the
second
was
mental
and
Behavioral
Health
Services
for
veterans
and
obviously,
as
we
as
we
spoke
about
earlier
tonight.
Those
are
intertwined
for
people
across
the
population,
they're
frequently
deeply
entrenched
with
veterans
who
have
PTSD
and
other
issues
that
they're
coping
with
as
a
result
of
their
service.
H
We
were
able
in
real
time
to
help
them
the
vet
center
staff.
Let
it
be
known
that,
since
the
beginning
of
covet,
because
so
many
of
their
their
veterans
are
Vietnam
era
vets,
so
many
of
the
folks
we
saw
tonight
are
they
are
very
mindful
of
covet
safe
practices,
and
so
they
could
not
have
group
counseling
meetings
at
the
vet
center
because
there's
not
space
enough
for
six
foot
separation
and
we
immediately
connected
them
with
our
community
services
team
and
we'll
be
making
space
available
for
our
veterans
to
have
Community
Counseling
in
City
space.
H
One
last
note:
we
send
out
a
press
release
that
did
not
get
much
recognition
about
the
work.
That's
beginning
now,
with
the
next
phase
for
Midtown,
the
enn
letters
went
out
so
that
the
zone
change,
which
is
the
first
step
toward
making
that
site
really
developable.
The
letters
went
out
and
the
enn
meeting
has
now
been
scheduled
for
mid-july.
H
Three
rfps
will
be
released
in
mid-july
or
Garson
theater,
Garson
Studios
and
the
art
buildings,
and
there
will
be
Community
grants
in
the
amount
of
roughly
50
or
60
thousand
dollars
to
continue
the
community
engagement
process
as
we
go
forward
on
Midtown.
So
the
press
release
was
sent,
it
didn't,
as
I
said,
it
really
wasn't
picked
up
because
there's
so
many
other
things
going
on
in
in
town
right
now,
but
please
stay
tuned
to
the
zone
change
soon
after
that
will
be
the
process
of
a
master
planning
engagement
and
then
these
rfps.
H
H
So
these
are
not
action
items
but
just
introductions.
The
first
one's
a
consideration
of
a
resolution
sponsored
by
mayor
Weber.
It's
a
resolution
permitting
remote
meetings
for
advisory
committees,
whether
or
not
it
is
difficult
or
impossible
for
members
of
the
committee
to
meet
in
person
when
the
advisory
committee
determines
it
is
the
best
it
is
in
the
best
interest
of
the
public
to
do
so,
and
it
it
does
what
the
caption
says.
H
What's
the
next
time.
The
next
item
is
16
e.
It's
consideration
of
a
resolution
sponsored
by
mayor
Weber,
councilor,
Lindell,
counselor,
Casa
and
councilman
worth
it's
a
resolution
establishing
the
manner
of
appointing
a
charter
review
Commission
in
2022
and
identifying
certain
topics
for
the
commission's
consideration
and
Aaron.
Do
you
just
want
to
take
one
minute
and
highlight
the
the
reason
we're
doing
this
I
believe
it
is
that
the
periodicity
is
required
mayor
over?
Yes,
we
are
required
to
do
this
at
least
every
10
years.
So
our
clock
is
up
it's
in
October.
H
It
will
be
up.
We
need
a
point,
a
point,
a
new
commission
by
October
and
so
we're
essentially
responding
to
that
requirement.
That's
right
so
we'll
need
time
to
call
for
participants
and
get
those
nominations
from
counselors
and
appoint
the
committee.
Thank
you.
Next,
we'll
take
petitions
from
the
floor
nobody's
here
anymore.
That
was
my
idea
of
a
midnight
joke
public
comment
on
bills:
city
clerk,
yes,.
H
Comment
of
a
bill
sponsored
by
councilor
Rivera,
it's
an
ordinance
amending
section,
21-4.3,
sfcc
1987
to
change
this
set
out
time
for
residential
Refuge
collection.
Charlene
saying
is
the
response
around
this
item
and
again
this
is
the
first
public
comment
and
I,
don't
think
anyone's
going
to
comment
from
the
public,
although,
if
they're
waiting
on
a
zoom
call
in
the
waiting
room,
we
should
let
them
in
yes.
If
anybody
on
Zoom
is
interested
in
speaking
to
this
item,
please
raise
your
hand.
H
No
one
raised
to
their
hand.
Okay.
In
that
case,
we
moved
to.
We
have
a
public
Hearing
in
front
of
us.
Oh
correct
item
item
bunny
a
is
consideration
of
a
resolution
and
sponsored
by
councilor
Rivera,
Council
Romero
worth
Chancellor,
Via,
Real
and
counselor
cassette.
It's
a
resolution
for
claiming
severe
or
extreme
drought.
H
Conditions
exist
in
the
city
of
Santa
Fe,
imposing
fire
restrictions,
July
11,
2022
to
August
9
2022
scanning
the
seller,
use
of
fireworks
within
the
city
of
Santa
Fe,
encouraging
residents
to
prepare
a
personal
Wildfire
action
plan
and
encouraging
residents
to
follow
the
fire
department's
fire
Readiness
guidelines,
and
this
is
a
public
hearing.
Is
there
anyone
from
the
public
who
wishes
to
speak
I,
don't
see
any
hands?
Can
we
get
a
motion?
H
H
Concert
yes,
counselor
Lee
Garcia,
yes,
counselor,
Michael,
Garcia,
yes,
councilor
Lindell,
yes,
counselor,
Rivera,
I'm,
sorry,
my
work
yes
and
mayor
Weber.
Yes,
thank
you.
I
believe
the
only
remaining
action
is
one
of
the
the
items
C
previously
identified
is
appointments
to
the
Planning
Commission.
H
H
Cancer
cassette
just
quick
question:
I
know
confirming
we
get
it,
but
let's
get
a
motion,
then
we
can
discuss.
There's
a
motion
to
approve
in
a
second
and
counselor
cast.
It
has
the
floor.
Thank
you.
Mr
toy
is
District
three
Mr
Lucero
District
Four
and
Mr
mirando.
The
districts
weren't
listed
on
here.
Do
we
happen
to
know
if
not
I'll
email,
Jason
I,
don't
have
them
on
me.
I'll
ask
Jason
I'm,
sorry
about
that.
No
problem.
Thank
you.
Any
other
comments
or
questions.
H
H
Yes,
mayor
Weber,
yes,
motion
has
been
approved.
Thank
you,
everybody.
It
was
a
long
night
and
I
appreciate
everybody's
good,
humor
and
happy
anniversary
anniversary.
We
are
adjourned
in
honor
of
the.