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A
Very
good,
thank
you.
It
is
now
5
p.m.
I'm
calling
to
order
the
regular
meeting
of
the
governing
body
for
february
9.
A
B
D
D
D
Thank
you
there's
a
few
people
I
wanted
to
recognize,
and
first
I
wanted
to
recognize
sebastian
gurule,
who
I
was
blessed
to
get
to
work
with
here
at
the
city
and
get
to
know
on
a
personal
level.
D
D
He
admitted
joy
and
love
and
all
that
he
did
and
had
so
much
empathy
for
everyone
and
I'll
miss
our
talks
about
cultura
about
musica
and
our
memories
that
we
shared
together
about
growing
up
in
santa
fe
and
seb
was,
as
we
say,
true
plebe
down
to
the
core,
and
I
just
wanted
to
say,
viacondiosev.
D
D
He
had
a
lot
of
charisma
and
energy.
It
was
unmatched.
I
admired
him
so
much.
I
learned
from
him
and
mentored
him
in
my
new
role
as
a
counselor,
and
I
wanted
to
take
this
opportunity
to
send
so
much
love
and
strength
to
his
daughters,
to
his
mother,
to
his
brothers
and
to
his
extended
family
during
this
difficult
time,
and
I
would
love
to
hear
from
my
colleagues
as
well
about
sending
love
to
his
family
and
before
I
before
I
stop.
D
I
will
also
share
the
words
for
my
a
dear
friend
of
mine
from
high
school.
Her
father
passed
away.
Francisco
pancho
espinosa
junior,
he
was
very
supportive
of
his
kids,
always
came
to
all
our
sporting
events.
He
was
a
lover
of
golf.
D
He
had
a
love
for
life
and
his
life
was
cut
too
too
soon,
and
I
just
wanted
to
offer
a
quote
that
he
would
often
say
to
live
for
today
and
to
love
for
tomorrow
is
the
wisdom
of
a
fool,
because
tomorrow
is
promised
to
no
one
and
just
wanted
to
say
rest
in
peace
in
your
espinosa
and
sending
his
family,
his
daughter,
espy,
his
wife,
cleo
and
the
rest
of
his
family.
My
condolences,
thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
I'm
sure
everybody
who
is
here
tonight
with
us
shares
those
sentiments.
Anyone
who
wishes
to
go
next
or
in
any
order.
Please
just
raise
your
hand
and
I'll
call
it
counselor
rivera.
You
have
the
floor.
E
Thank
you
mayor.
I
want
to
echo
my
condolences
for
sebastian
goudale
and
his
wife,
alva
daughter,
son
sebastian
jr.
It's
sad
to
know
that
sebastian
had
just
found
out.
He
was
going
to
be
your
grandfather
had
passed
on
way
too
way
too
early
way
too
young.
E
He
was
involved
in
my
family
for
many
years.
He
grew
up
with
my
wife
him
and
his
dad
and
his
brother
played
mariachi
music
at
our
wedding
him
and
albert
played
music
the
day
I
retired
and
I'll
always
remember
him.
He'll
always
be
special
and
councilman
via
real
was
right.
When
you
think
about
santa
fe
and
pleb
and
gente,
he
was
that's
who
you
thought
of.
He
lived
that
daily
and
he
would
be
tremendously
missed
and
also
sat
him
by
the
news
of
former
mayor
javier
gonzalez.
E
I
knew
him
since
high
school
was
great.
Politician
was
a
great
person,
a
great
father,
a
great
family
man.
He
loved
his
daughters
and
just
the
condolences
to
his
mother
selena
and
to
his
brothers
and
nothing
but
sadness
in
the
loss
of
those
two
individuals
they
will
be
missed
and
their
their
legacies
will
go
on
forever.
F
It
was
a
shock
to
see
that
seth
had
been
called
to
his
greater
rewards.
F
F
But
the
thing
about
javier
was
that
everybody
in
town
thought
they
were
javier's
best
friend.
That
was
his
magic.
Everybody
thought
they
were
his
best
friend.
F
A
Thank
you
councillor,
councillor
cassette.
G
Thank
you
very
much
mayor,
thank
you
to
my
colleagues
for
sharing
your
memories.
I,
of
course,
did
not
have
the
opportunity
to
work
with
javier,
but
was
so
grateful
to
have
had
the
opportunity
to
meet
him
and
interact
with
him
a
number
of
times
over
the
last
couple
years
and
he
will
be
remembered
for
what
an
inspiration
he
was
as
a
public
servant
and
has
been
mentioned.
He
he
was
such
a
family
man
and
I
think
what
really
speaks
to
what
an
incredible
person
he
is.
Is
god,
those
incredible
daughters.
G
Was
amazing-
and
I
know
is
such
a
reflection
on
her
father
and
how
he
raised
her
and
supported
her
and
her
older
sister
and
my
heart
just
goes
out
to
the
two
of
them
and
to
the
rest
of
javier's
family,
and
we
are
so
grateful
as
a
city
that
we
had
him.
We
are
so
so
fortunate.
G
So
thank
you
all
for
for
sharing
your
stories
of
working
with
him,
and
I
know
that
we'll
have
more
opportunity
to
do
so
and
just
sending
so
much
love
to
his
family
and
to
the
city
of
santa
fe.
There's
been
a
number
of
losses
for
the
the
city
family
over
the
last
week,
and
so
I
know
that
many
many
staff
and
individuals
are
are
really
hurting
right
now,
so
sending
out
love
and
condolences
to
everyone.
A
Thank
you,
council,
any
others,
councillor
mayor
worth.
H
Thank
you
mayor.
I
too
want
to
send
condolences
to
sabgoodelle's
family.
H
When
I
was
first
elected,
he
really
helped
me
and
worked
with
me
to
help
my
constituents
and
to
help
me
introduce
me
to
the
city
and
to
the
city
family,
and
I
am
forever
grateful
for
his
generosity
in
helping
me
adjust
and
come
into
my
new
role
and
he
a
couple
of
constituents
who
I
was
very
concerned
about.
He
jumped
in
with
both
feet
to
help
me
help
them,
and
I'm
very
grateful
for
that.
H
I
am
also
very
saddened
and
send
my
condolences
to
the
gonzalez
family.
He
was.
H
Incredible
leader,
groundbreaking,
forward-thinking,
progressive.
H
Fighter
for
our
community-
and
I
he's
been
taken
way
too
soon.
I
send
my
condolences
to
his
daughters,
as
has
been
mentioned,
they're
incredible
young
human
beings,
contemporaries
of
my
children
and
they're
gonna,
go
on
and
do
great
things
in
his
honor
in
his
memory.
H
A
Thank
you,
councilor
lee
garcia.
You
raised
your
hand
yeah.
B
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
again,
echoing
the
words
of
my
colleagues
here
I
am,
I
didn't,
know
sevastian
gurule
for
a
very
long
time.
We
shared
something
we
were
both
passed
on
diego
de
vargas's,
and
we
chatted
about
that
during
the
campaign
trail
a
little
and
after
I
won
my
election,
we
chatted
a
little
more
and
so
my
condolences
to
his
family
and
to
all
the
people
who
loved
him.
My
history
with
the
gonzalez
family
as
well.
B
I
sent
my
love
out
to
celine
and
pat
and
stevonn
and
and
and
everyone
all
of
his
family
members.
I've
known
him
for
about
20
years,
even
george
when
he
passed
former
mayor,
george
gonzalez,
and
so
once
again,
that's
a
it's
a
great
loss
to
our
community
and
wishing
wishing
comfort
and
peace
and
and
condolences
to
everyone
so
I'll
be
missed.
A
Thank
you
councillor
chavez.
C
Thank
you,
mayor
yeah.
I
want
to
echo
what
was
said
already.
I
only
had
the
honor
to
observe
and
admire
our
former
mayor
from
afar,
but
I
have
been
lucky
enough
to
be
working
alongside
his
daughter
recently.
I
have
been
handed
off
by
counselor
cassette
that
opportunity
I
feel,
like
we've
had
so
much
loss
our
community,
and
I
think
I
want
to
emphasize
for
those
left
behind
the
love
and
the
kindness
that
is
needed
right
now.
C
I
think
that,
as
a
especially
in
leadership,
I
think
we
have
to
be
the
example
of
unity,
love,
empathy,
kindness
because
there
is
a
struggle
beyond
what's
affecting
our
city
directly
beyond
the
losses
that
are
kind
of
shaking
our
hearts
right
now,
and
so
you
know,
I
send
love
to
all
those
that
are
left
behind
who's.
Had
this.
You
know
these
great
losses
over
the
last
few
years.
I
always
like
to
tell
people
who
I
know
are
suffering
that
I'm
here
you
know,
as
public
officials
we
are
available
our
contact
information.
C
Is
there
don't
feel
alone,
don't
feel
like
you
have
to
go
through
anything
alone?
I
know
that
I
would
jump
jump
at
the
opportunity
to
reassure
somebody
that
they're
not
alone,
so
you
know,
I
think
I
just
want
to
emphasize
you
know
as
a
community.
You
are
loved.
You
are
supported
as
a
leadership
here
in
santa
fe.
We
are
here
so
thank
you.
I
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
Just
want
to
you
know
echo
the
sentiments
my
colleagues
mentioned
earlier.
You
know
santa
fe
is
going
to
go
to
sleep
tonight
with
a
broken
heart.
I
Javier
was
a
great
great.
Great
man
knew
him
before
I
came
into
office.
Had
the
opportunity
to
have
his
sage
advice
all
the
way
up
until
recently
with
the
birth
of
my
son.
I
He
is
a
treasure
that
will
continue
to
live
on
he's
one
of
those
spirits
that
if
he
impacted
your
life,
you
you
were
going
to
carry
that
impact
in
that
positive
manner.
As
council
lindell
said,
everybody
was
his
best
friends,
everybody
was
familiar
to
him
and
I
think
that's
what
was
so
great
about
him
and
the
gonzalez
family.
I
I
A
A
When
I
came
to
work
here,
he
was
welcoming
me
even
though
he'd
recently
suffered
a
very
severe
heart
attack,
he
was
doing
everything
he
could
to
make
a
new
a
new
mayor,
welcome
in
in
a
city
government
that
he
had
long
served
in
and
labored
in
in
so
many
different
ways
and
his
his
touch
is
in
city
hall.
It's
in
all
the
people.
He
helped
he's
it's
in
the
way
he
handled
difficult
situations
and
supported
people
across
our
city
government
and
across
our
community,
and
he
he
loved
music.
A
He
loved
people,
he
loved
santa
fe
and
I'm
so
sorry
we
lost
him
with
mayor
gonzalez.
I
it's
very
hard
to
find
words
that
fit
such
a
large
individual.
The
words
are
not
commensurate
to
him.
He
was
a
homegrown
hometown
hero,
a
beloved
community
member,
a
devoted
community
servant,
a
visionary
community
leader.
A
D
C
J
L
A
A
On
the
consent
agenda,
I'm
going
to
take
item
l
and
permanently
remove
it.
It's
been
superseded
by
events,
so
we
won't
be
considering
it
tonight
or
the
future
simply
taking
it
off
the
agenda
off
the
consent
calendar
as
well.
I
don't
know
madame
city
attorney,
for
a
specific
motion
to
remove
something
from
consideration.
M
However,
I
think
probably
emotion:
well
so
you're
you're,
not
sponsoring
it
anymore
right,
so
it
effectively
just
doesn't
exist
correct.
We
might
want
to
just
take
a
vote
to
remove
it
from
the
agenda,
but
it's
more
of
a
formality
than
anything.
H
A
J
E
A
C
I
would
like
to
pull
item
g.
I
will
need
to
recuse
myself
from
the
boat.
A
I
heard
counselor
romero
all
right,
we'll
work
it
that
way.
Counselor
chavez
made
the
motion
clear
the
mayor
worth
seconded
it.
Could
I
ask
everybody
if
you're
not
speaking
to
please
mute
your
microphone,
we're
getting
some
feedback
and
madame
clerk,
can
you
please
call
the
role.
F
F
J
A
A
Thank
you
as
amended.
If
you
could
take
us
to
presentation,
8
a
and
we'll
begin,
we
have
a
series
of
presentations,
let's
begin
with
8a
and
go
through
the
other.
Two
I'd
remind
our
presenters.
Please
try!
You
will
get
questions
so
please,
while
being
complete,
keep
an
eye
on
the
clock
over
to
you,
madam
clerk.
Yes,.
J
O
Mr
roach,
you
have
the
floor.
Thank
you,
mr
mayor
members
of
the
governing
body.
I
appreciate
your
time
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
share.
My
screen
show
you
where
this
presentation
that
does
exist
on
the
website
here:
santa
fan
m
water.
If
you
click
on
this
supply
and
demand
update,
it
will
take
you
to
the
pdf
which
I've
already
downloaded
and
just
wanted.
To
give
a
little
bit
of
background.
O
O
The
two
treatment
plants
that
that
water
comes
through
are
the
canyon
road,
water
treatment
plant
up
near
the
audubon
center
and
the
buckman
direct
diversion
water
treatment
plant
out
near
marty
sanchez
that
two
of
our
sources,
utilize,
well,
water
or
groundwater.
We
use
those
terms
interchangeably
and
I
think
I
will
just
move
to
the
next
slide
here.
It
shows
kind
of
these
four
different
sources
and
the
percentage
of
it
they
have
made
up
in
our
portfolio,
I'm
showing
an
average
from
2013
through
2019
during
that
period
of
time.
O
The
buckman
direct
diversion
this
large
green
one
represented
about
45
of
our
production
about
a
third
of
it
came
from
the
santa
fe
river
and
the
other
about
one
quarter
came
from
the
two
well
fields
and
we
do
think
of
the
surface
water
as
our
checking
account.
We
try
and
use
it
preferentially
and
let
our
groundwater,
which
we
think
of
our
savings,
account
rest
for
periods,
drive
periods.
O
I'm
gonna
move
through
this
next
slide
and
just
read
these
bullets
to
you.
As
I
talk
to
you
about
this
next
figure,
this
figure
just
shows
production
from
the
four
sources
for
the
months
of
january,
through
december
of
2021,
and
we
produced
about
8
700
acre
feet
of
potable
water.
O
The
number
doesn't
matter
too
much,
but
we
have
been
below
9
000,
acre
feet
of
water
production
for
the
past
seven
years
and
about
80
percent
of
that
production
came
from
our
river
water
and
the
remaining
from
groundwater,
and
the
the
gray
line
that
you
see
in
the
figure
is
how
much
water
we
sold
through
meters
and
so
of
all
the
production
that
we
made.
94
of
it
was
sold
to
customers
through
meters.
The
other
six
percent
represent
something
called
non-revenue
water
and
six
percent
is
actually
a
very
good
number
for
that.
O
O
So
this
is
an
important
number
of
about
twelve
thousand
acre
feet
and
it's
important
to
note,
as
I
mentioned,
that
we've
been
below
nine
thousand
acre
feet
for
the
past
six
or
seven
years,
and
the
nice
thing
about
that
is
that
when
we
produce
less
than
our
sustainable
amount,
then
water
builds
up
in
storage
in
our
surface.
Water
reservoirs
or
water
builds
up
in
storage
in
our
groundwater
aquifers,
and
so,
despite
approximately
a
1
increase
in
the
number
of
meters
in
2021,
our
total
production
was
below
our
2020
production.
O
And
then
the
last
graph
that
I'm
going
to
show
you
again
I'll
read
through
the
the
bullets.
As
as
we
look
at
the
graph,
the
last
graph
is
just
showing
total
reservoir
storage
for,
in
this
case,
2021
is
shown
in
the
dark
blue
line,
and
the
graph
on
the
left
is
for
all
the
water
stored
in
the
two
reservoirs
in
the
upper
santa
fe
river,
as
compared
to
the
storage
that
we
saw
in
2019
and
2020
in
the
same
locations
and
then
on
the
right.
O
I
think
the
takeaway
from
these
graphs
really
is
that,
although
we
did
go
through
a
very
dry
year
and
we
didn't
get
the
kind
of
inflows
on
the
santa
fe
river
that
maybe
we're
used
to
we're
ending
the
year
in
both
cases
in
below
where
we
have
been
but
but
not
not
dramatically
or
remarkably,
the
final
part
of
this
presentation
talks
a
little
bit
about
rates
and
I'm
for
in
the
interest
of
time,
gonna
skip
that
and
just
tell
you
that
if,
if
you
have
a
constituent,
tell
you
that
we
have
the
most
expensive
water
in
the
country,
I
can
tell
you
where
that
came
from.
O
A
A
I
know
you're
a
professional
using
these,
inter
as
terms
of
of
art
in
the
water
world,
maybe
just
for
public
listening
in
or
watching
the
amount
of
water
that
we
have
as
far
as
I'm
concerned,
the
really
important
data
are
the
amount
of
water
that
we
have
available
to
us
on
an
annualized
basis
versus
the
amount
of
water
that
we've
been
using
on
an
annualized
basis.
Putting
aside
the
language
you've
produced
for
one
minute,
just
those
two
data
points.
If
you
could
isolate
those
for
me,.
O
Mr
mayor,
thank
you
for
the
question.
It's
a
very
good
one.
O
The
the
number
that
we're
putting
out
there
in
terms
of
our
available
water
on
a
year
and
year
out
basis
is
the
twelve
thousand
acre
feet
that
I
mentioned,
and
I
will
re-share
the
figure
briefly
and
where
we
come
up
with
that
is
the
7
500
acre
feet
per
year
is
looking
at
the
last
20
years
or
so,
and
what
sort
of
water
has
been
available
to
the
two
surface
water
systems?
So
that's!
This
is
not
exactly
what
came
in
last
year.
O
These
are
based
on
long-term
averages,
not
exactly
what
happened
last
year,
but
I
think
that
twelve
thousand
acre
foot
number
compared
to
the
below
nine
thousand
acre
foot
number
that
we
actually
have
been
using
is
where
we
feel
like
we're
in
a
very
good
position
currently,
because
we
are
only
using
about
three
quarters
of
what
is
available
to
us
year
in
and
year
out.
A
Very
helpful
other
questions
for
mr
roach.
If
I
see
a
hand
I'll
call
on
you,
councillor
cassette.
G
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
mayor,
and
thank
you,
mr
roach.
Can
you
expand
on
the
term
non-revenue
water.
O
Yes,
council,
woman,
cuss
it
and-
and
mr
mayor,
the
so
I'll-
show
this
graph
again,
so
you
can
see
that
through
the
year
we
consistently
produce
more
water
than
we
actually
sell
through
our
meters
and
the
difference
between
that
in
this
case,
about
six
percent
of
what
we
produce
is
either
water.
That's
it's
from
a
variety
of
of
places
that
that
six
percent
can
go
a
main
break,
for
example,
is
water
that
we
end
up,
losing
that
we
don't.
We
can't
charge
anybody
for
we
don't
charge.
O
Anybody
for
other
places
is
meter.
Air
is
a
place
where
that
can
come
in
any
leaks.
We
do
some
flushing.
We
do
fire
hydrant
testing,
there's
a
number
of
places
where
we
end
up
using
water
through
the
system
that
doesn't
actually
get
go
through
a
meter
and
get
charged,
and
so
that
six
percent
is
actually
a
great
number.
O
I
think
you
know,
prior
to
these
better
meters
that
we're
using
now
there
were
systems
that
would
have
non-revenue
water
numbers
in
the
15
or
20
percent
range,
and
so
we're
very
proud
of
the
six
percent.
But
again
when
you
look
at
it,
it's
like.
Oh
there's
six
percent
that
we
we
need
to
try
and
track
down,
but
we
it
is.
It
is
actually
a
very
good
number
when
compared
to
other
utilities,.
G
Wonderful,
thank
you
so
much
I
I
had
not
heard
that
term
before.
So,
thanks
for
the
the
new
vocabulary
word
in
the
water
world,
those
are
all
my
questions.
Thank
you.
A
O
Mr
mayor,
thanks
for
the
question
I
believe,
you'll
see
me
next
month
in
march,
we
have
something
we're
calling
the
santa
fe
water
resources
indicator
that
we
want
to
share.
O
That
is
a
way
for
us
to
inform
seasonal
conservation
policy
and
then
in
april,
you'll
see
us
again
because
april
is
when
we
like
to
try
and
do
our
our
sort
of
outlook
for
the
year
based
on
the
snowpack
projection,
so
you'll
probably
get
sick
of
us,
but
you'll
see
us
at
least
once
the
next
couple
of
months,
terrific
you're,
all
you're.
A
L
J
P
Mr
mayor
councillor,
thank
you
all
very
much.
We
continue
to
put
as
much
of
our
foot
on
the
gas
pedal
for
getting
this
audit
done
as
we
can.
We
continue
to
do
really
productive
meetings.
P
Every
week,
the
mayor
and
myself,
director,
mccoy
and
her
team
are
giving
us
updates,
essentially
a
version
of
this
that
you're
going
to
get
tonight
as
well,
and
I
just
want
to
say
that
I'm
really
truly
proud
of
director
mccoy
and
her
team
in
the
grace
under
tremendous
pressure
that
they're
showing
to
me
and
to
the
mayor
and
to
all
of
you
in
getting
this
done,
and
so
I'm
excited
about
the
progress
that's
being
made
where
we're
going
forward
and
I'll.
Let
director
mccoy,
take
it
from
here.
Thank
you.
Q
Thank
you,
city
manager,
blair.
Tonight
we
have
a
summarized
update
again
in
about
seven
different
categories,
for
you,
everything
from
our
significant
assets,
all
the
way
through
our
federal
expenditures.
So
we
look
forward
and
to
showing
you
the
progress
that
our
team
has
made
this
week.
Q
We
have
assets
is
one
of
our
largest
categories
on
that
list
of
seven
categories,
so
we
have
made
significant
progress
this
last
week
in
a
detailed
review
of
our
cash
accounts,
including
completing
the
analysis
over
our
ap
cash
control,
insufficient
cash,
suspense
cash
and
trust
workers,
compensation,
general
liability,
cigna
and
interest
receivables.
This
is
a
significant
amount
of
work
that
has
been
completed.
Q
We
can
check
that
box
and
hand
it
over
to
a
final
review
in
addition
to
that
reconciliations
for
our
cash
accounts,
the
two
that
are
listed
here,
our
major
cash
accounts
are
underway
and
we
are
progressing
significantly
with
those
and
that
will
continue
again
next
week.
So
a
lot
has
been
done
with
that
and
we
look
forward
to
continuing
the
momentum
we
have
with
this
major
area.
Q
Moving
on
to
our
capital
assets,
we
have
about
30
of
this
complete.
We
have
reviewed
transactions
for
the
entire
fiscal
year,
21
and
removed
any
accounts
that
were
not
related
to
our
capital
assets.
That
then
becomes
our
pool
for
our
testing,
and
we
have
selected
about
38
million
to
test
initially
to
ensure
all
the
documentation
is
there,
and
it
is
all
recorded
accurately
in
our
system.
Next
week's
activity
will
continue
a
review
of
these
transactions
and
our
goal
is
to
complete
50
of
the
sample
set
next
week.
Q
Our
progress
on
deferred
inflows
and
outflows.
We
have
started
this.
This
is
a
significant
area
again
that
has
begun
in
the
past
week.
It
covers
our
net
pension
and
opeb,
which
is
our
other
post-employment
benefits
for
deferred
inflows
and
outflows.
The
progress
in
our
liabilities
is
also
significant.
We
have
continued
to
gather
our
data
and
began
our
account
analysis
of
our
long-term
liabilities,
our
accounts
payable
and
all
of
our
other
liabilities,
and
this
will
continue
into
the
coming
weeks
we're
getting
a
significant
momentum
in
this
area
as
well.
Q
The
progress
for
our
schedule,
besifa,
also
known
as
the
schedule
of
expenditures
of
federal
awards,
has
been
significant
meetings,
continue
with
all
departments
that
received
federal
awards
to
ensure
that
the
program
revenue
expenses
align
with
the
expenses
in
our
general
ledger,
and
we
are
accurately
reporting
that
for
our
single
audit,
this
will
continue
in
the
weeks
to
come
and
our
target
date
for
this
will
be
the
middle
of
march,
and
we've
received
confirmation
from
our
auditors
that
they
are
able
to
begin
the
audit
test
work
of
this
area
at
the
end
of
march.
Q
So
that's
significantly
ahead
of
our
end
of
march
deadline
with
that
we
have
completed
in
prior
weeks.
The
fund
balance
and
net
position
analysis,
and
we
in
the
last
week
have
also
completed
the
inner
funds
analysis,
so
significant
progress
in
those
areas,
and
we
will
continue
our
work
to
move
toward
our
deadlines.
Q
I
think
one
of
the
significant
areas,
as
I
mentioned,
is
completing
our
cfa
ahead
of
that
march
31st
deadline
and
the
confirmation
this
week
from
our
external
auditors
that
they
will
be
on
site
able
to
do
our
testing
of
the
federal
expenses.
At
the
end
of
march,
really
pushing
up
our
timeline
for
our
audit.
With
that
I'll
stand
for
questions.
A
A
Thank
you
for
bringing
it
to
us.
We
expect
to
see
you
again
soon
and
get
more
updates,
and
thank
you
for
being
so
very
clear
in
the
in
the
percentages
that
are
being
advanced
on
these
on
these
different
fronts.
Very,
very
good.
A
R
Mr
mayor
city
councilors,
thank
you
so
much
for
the
opportunity
for
us
to
share
the
report
out
by
the
artful
life
consultant
team.
This
is
part
of
this
is
the
second
report
out
and
they've
been
very
busy
with
the
planning,
as
well
as
implementation,
so
we
have
tonight
both
co-directors
janiece,
garib
and
valerie
martinez,
and
they
believe
janiece
is
going
to
start
off
and
probably
requires
share
screen
capabilities.
S
Yes,
thank
you.
Thank
you
good
evening,
mr
marion
city
councilors.
Thank
you
so
much
for
having
us
for
this.
Our
second
update
on
the
chart
project.
My
name
is
janiece
gareb,
one
of
the
co-directors
of
chart,
and
I
am
joined
by
valerie
martinez,
also
a
co-director
and
alexis
kaminsky,
who
is
the
the
chart
evaluator
we're
grateful
to
all
the
residents
of
the
city
and
county
who
have
taken
the
time
to
answer
charts
first
survey
and
participate
in
charts.
S
Many
activities
they've
been
very
thoughtful
and
engaged,
and
we
thank
those
who
are
listening
tonight
as
well
as
we
do
have
some
new
counselors.
I
just
want
to
give
a
really
quick
introduction
to
the
chart
project.
The
chart
project
was
created
following
controversies
and
protests
around
monuments,
including
the
obelisk
and
soldiers,
monument
on
the
plaza
in
january
of
2021,
the
governing
body
yourselves
passed.
A
resolution
calling
excuse
me
calling
for
a
culture,
history,
art,
reconciliation
and
truth
process.
S
Artful
life
was
selected
as
the
lead
consultant
for
the
project
and
began
its
work
in
mid-august
of
2021.
The
scope
of
the
project
goes
well
beyond.
Subject
of
monuments.
Excuse
me
surveys.
It
includes
surveys,
one-on-one
interviews,
art
activations,
a
cultural
history
series,
a
community
community
dialogue
sessions,
implicit
bias,
training
for
city
officials,
a
community
solutions
table
and
a
report
with
recommendations
for
consideration
by
yourselves,
the
governing
body.
S
This
pyramid
shows
how
we
had
planned
the
activities
from
the
from
the
kind
of
the
foundation
or
the
bottom
up
and
starting
in
the
first
quarter.
We
built
a
foundation
for
a
project
of
this
size
and
complexity.
S
In
the
last
update,
we
reported
on
the
county-wide
call
for
a
team
and
their
selection
and
training
the
hiring
of
administrative
personnel,
the
creation
of
the
website
and
social
media
and
the
launch
of
the
first
chart
survey.
This
past
quarter,
we've
launched
into
the
activities
shown
in
the
second
level
of
the
triangle.
S
So
here's
some
detail
of
the
activities
we've
been
doing
over
the
last
couple
of
months.
These
are
some
of
the
ongoing
ones
that
we
continue
with
meeting
with
people
and
doing
our
outreach,
but
also
some
new
ones.
I
know
there's
a
great
deal
of
detail
here
on
this
slide,
especially
as
we're
moving
at
full
speed
with
public
activities
since
the
beginning
of
the
new
year.
S
If
you
missed
that
talk,
you
may
watch
the
recording
on
the
chart
santa
fe
youtube
channel
at
any
time.
Our
first
survey,
which
was
key
to
determining
future
content
and
events
close
on
december
31st.
We
are
still
digesting
the
many
responses
and
we'll
be
providing
some
more
information
later
in
the
presentation.
S
In
january,
we
held
the
first
public
dialogue
online
because
of
covid
on
the
theme
of
monuments.
80
people
signed
up
and
60
people
attended
and
we'll
tell
you
a
little
bit
more
about
that
later
as
well.
Now
I'm
going
to
hand
it
over
to
valerie
to
talk
about
our
engagement
strategy
and
the
connections
we've
made
so
far.
Based
on
that
strategy,.
T
Thank
you,
mayor
weber
and
city
councillors.
I
want
to,
on
behalf
of
the
chart
team,
extend
our
condolences
to
you
for
your
losses
of
your
employees
past
and
present
of
the
your
city
community.
We're
very
sorry
about
that.
T
If
a
survey
is
only
offered
online,
only
those
with
internet
access
can
participate.
For
these
reasons,
chart
is
employing
a
multi-modal
engagement
strategy
that
reaches
people
in
a
multitude
of
ways.
We
are
online
on
the
phone
in
person
safely.
Despite
covid,
we
are
gathering
crucial
and
important
information
via
more
than
one
survey,
one-on-one
interviews,
three
to
four
types
of
public
dialogue,
art
activations,
a
cultural
history,
series,
social
media
campaigns
and
more.
T
For
this
reason,
each
discrete
event
won't
necessarily
demonstrate
diverse
engagement,
but
overall
we
will
engage
hundreds
of
citizens
over
many
months
of
activities
and
events
we
keep
track
of
who
is
participating
and
look
closely
at
where
gaps
are
if
they
exist
and
where
we
need
to
target
specific
kinds
of
outreach
to
particular
communities,
ages
and
zip
codes.
And
so
this
slide
demonstrates
that
diverse
engagement
strategy
and
in
particular,
focuses
on
the
emphasis
that
we're
looking
at
in
terms
of
inclusion.
T
The
numbers
on
this
slide
demonstrate
both
outreach
and
engagement
during
quarters,
one
and
two
since
we
started
our
work,
so
outreach
for
us
means
every
time
we
send
out
an
e-blast
a
newsletter,
an
email,
snail,
mail
phone
calls
all
of
those
things.
That's
us
reaching
out
to
people
to
invite
them
to
be
part
of
the
process.
We
keep
a
very
complex
spreadsheet
of
all
of
the
numbers,
every
single
email
we
count
all
of
those.
T
That's
that
eight
thousand
eight
number
that
you
have
there
chart
and
its
email
list
now
has
483
and
the
city
of
santa
fe
chart
email
list
has
509
and
you're
all.
I
think,
familiar
with
those
communications.
Those
e-blast
updates
that
go
out
and
that's
part
of
that
reaching
out
engagement
for
us
is
when
people
actually
engage
with
a
project.
They
attend
a
dialogue
event
activity.
They
attend
a
meeting.
T
We
they
participate
in
classroom
visits,
they
register
for
events,
they
view
things
on
youtube
in
addition
to
attending
or
or
view
them,
rather
than
attending
conversations
that
we
have,
and
this
number
excludes
website
and
social
media
and
again
we
keep
track
of
this.
That's
5975..
T
So
if
you
think
about
those
two
numbers
thousand
and
eight
five,
nine
seven
fives
is
a
pretty
good
return
on
the
effort
that
we're
making
to
reach
out
and
people
who
are
engaging
with
the
project.
T
Despite
covid,
we
have
done
some
in-person
engagements
being
very
careful
careful
to
make
sure
everybody's
safe
and
the
list
there
is
where
the
team
has
met
people
in
person,
whether
it's
for
surveys
or
classroom
visits,
or
things
like
that.
You
can
see
that
list
of
organizations
there
and
places
locations
really,
and
we
just
want
to
give
a
shout
out
to
the
meeting
spaces.
The
secure
house,
boys
and
girls
club
santa
fe
community
gallery
and
the
santa
fe
place
mall,
who
have
generously
provided
locations
for
that
in-person
engagement.
S
Oh
I'm
just
trying
to
move
it's
okay,
so
our
website
is
our
hub
for
information.
S
You
know
and
communication
of
what's
going
on
and
events
and
its
activities
and
it's
updated
regularly,
and
here
you
can
find
more
information
of
the
project
about
artful
life,
the
facilitation
team
events
and
also
download
diy
kits
to
give
you
an
idea
of
the
traffic
flowing
through
there,
there's
been
fourth
in
the
last
six
months:
four
thousand
three
hundred
and
twenty
four
site
sessions
we've
had
two
thousand
eight
hundred
and
twenty
two
unique
visitors,
they're
staying
on
for
almost
six
minutes
and
most
of
the
people
are
coming
through
our
page
directly
or
via
facebook,
google
googling
us
our
chart
and
the
santa
fe
new
mexican,
as
well
as
a
source.
S
Most
people
are
visiting
our
homepage,
our
team
information,
our
survey
about
the
the
chart
project
and
events
most
of
the
unique
visitors
are
from
santa
fe,
followed
by
the
rest
of
new
mexico,
the
u.s
canada,
the
uk
and
as
far
away
now
as
mongolia
last
quarter.
It
was
the
philippines.
This
quarter
it's
mongolia,
so
we
get
a
lot
of
attention
through
our
website
to
the.
S
Project,
okay,
we
are
on
social
media.
We
maintain
social
media
accounts
on
both
facebook
and
instagram
and
to
share
information
and
events
for
those
who
prefer
to
receive
their
information
online.
S
S
We
have
122
followers
on
facebook
instagram,
but
they
report
their
information
a
little
differently,
but
we
have
104
followers
on
instagram.
S
So,
let's
see
media
our
media.
We
continue.
The
chart
projects.
Chart
project
continues
in
the
media,
oops,
I'm
sorry
that
went
too
far.
Radio
television,
the
santa
fe
reporter
the
santa
fe
new
mexican,
the
albuquerque
journal,
one
of
the
highlights
was
another:
the
santa
fe
new
mexican
published
a
second
op-ed
from
valerie
and
myself
at
the
time
of
the
closing
of
the
of
survey
number
one.
S
Let's
see
now,
I'm
going
to
hand
it
over
to
alexis
kaminsky.
Who
is
our
evaluator
to
talk
to
you
about
participation
in
the
survey
hoping
alexis?
Is
there.
L
Thank
you
excuse
me
thank
you
for
thank
you
governing
council
for
having
us
and
also
sorry
for
your
losses.
I'm
going
to
be
quick.
I
just
wanted
to
give
an
update
on
the
response
rate
for
the
chart.
One
first
survey:
if
you
remember,
we
had
three
open-ended
questions.
The
first
one
had
to
do
with
the
fuller
history,
the
second
one
with
better
relationships
and
the
third
one,
with
the
future
and
being
good
ancestors
next
slide.
L
We
had
the
last
time
we
reported
to
you.
We
had
274
responses,
we
closed
out
with
497,
which
was
a
good
bunch
of
people.
Most
of
most
of
the
surveys
came
online
and
there
was
about
18
of
them
came
through
the
outreach
and
engagement
activities
that
have
been
done,
and
most
people
answered
all
three
questions.
Next
slide.
L
This
slide
shows
the
breakdown
of
people
who
participated
by
age
and
by
zip
code,
and
I
know
that
you
all
got
this
in
their
in
your
packets,
so
I'm
not
going
to
perseverate
on
it
just
to
let
you
know
that
in
terms
of
age,
most
of
the
respondents
were
60
to
80
years
old
and
zip
code.
Most
of
the
respondents
came
from
the
501,
the
505
and
the
507.
L
L
Overall,
the
orange
are
the
respondents
and
the
green
are
the
santa
fe
county
numbers
and,
as
you
can
see,
people
who
are
between
70
and
79
were
very,
very
interested
in
filling
out
the
survey
and
did
so
with
great
gusto,
and
I
would
say
the
same
for
people
who
are
60
to
69.,
where
we
really
don't
see
as
much
participation
are
the
people
who
are
20
to
29
years
old,
and
I
think
you
could
maybe
say
that
a
lot
of
those
people
are
working.
L
Idea
of
where
people
live
in
the
county,
who
have
responded
and
most
of
them
were
from
the
507
505
and
501.
As
I
noted,
there
was
actually
a
pretty
good
percentage
of
people
who
came
from
the
506
zip
code,
which
is
to
suki
up
to
nam
bay,
and
I
thought
that
that
was
notable
just
given
that
it's
outside
of
santa
fe
proper
and
I'm
going
to
pass
it
back
to
you.
Janiece.
T
So
data
collection
regarding
attendance
and
participation
also
extends
to
all
the
chart
events,
including
our
cultural
history
series.
The
first
event
in
the
series
happened
on
november
18th
and
it's
a
very
popular
event.
To
this
day,
the
conversation
between
city
of
santa
fe,
historian,
valerie
rangel
and
state
historian
rob
martinez
addressed
the
question.
How
can
we
come
to
a
fuller
understanding
of
the
history
of
santa
fe?
One
of
the
questions
in
our
first
survey
today.
As
you
can
see
here,
471
people
have
either
watched
the
live
event
or
have
viewed
the
conversation
on
youtube.
T
T
Last
month
we
launched
the
first
series
of
zoom
public
dialogue
sessions
each
month
through
may.
We
will
do
the
same
with
different
topics
and
questions
that
are
generated
from
results
of
the
first
survey.
That's
important
to
note.
As
we
said
from
the
beginning,
we
didn't
want
to
presuppose
or
assume
the
questions
or
topics
that
were
important
to
people.
The
reason
for
doing
a
first
survey,
especially
a
qualitative
survey,
was
so
that
we
heard
from
people
first
and
we
knew
which
questions
to
develop
for
the
public
dialogue
sessions.
T
So
the
questions
for
each
month,
which
will
be
different,
were
come
from.
Those
survey
results.
It's
important
to
note
that
these
are
just
one
form
of
public
dialogue.
Others
include
in-person
and
virtual
dialogues
hosted
by
organizations
dialogues
with
high
school
students
and
dialogues
that
will
follow
films
and
talks
in
the
cultural
history
series,
as
well
as
community
member
to
community
member
dialogue
that
is
integrated
into
art
activations.
I
T
Is
small
group
sharing
and
listening
in
response
to
questions
in
january?
The
questions
were
what
you
see
on
your
screen
who
or
what
deserves
a
public
monument
memorial
work
of
public
art
and
why?
Who?
What
is
worth
honoring
and
why
and
the
second,
if
existing
monuments,
memorials
works
of
public
art
need
to
be
reconsidered.
T
What
is
the
ideal
process
for
this?
What
steps
should
be
taken
and
why
you
can
see
the
registration
and
attendance
number
here
numbers
here?
There
is
a
facilitator
and
note
taker
for
each
small
group.
So,
for
example,
if
we
have
a
session
on
a
tuesday
night,
we
have,
we
might
have
30
people
show
up,
they
come
into
the
zoo
session
and
then
they
break
out
into
smaller
groups,
because
in
order
to
do
the
listening
and
sharing
for
20
30
people,
it
would
take
hours.
So
we
break
people
into
small
groups.
T
So
there's
more
intimate
sharing
there
detailed
notes
of
each
of
those
small
groups
produce
another
body
of
very
important
information.
So
for
just
the
january
dialogues
there
are
36
pages
of
single-spaced,
real-time
notes
over
17
000
words.
All
of
this
again
is
data.
That's
been
generated
by
the
project
very,
very
revealing,
very,
very
thoughtful
and
very,
very
interesting,
as
with
all
chart
activities
we
design
and
implement
evaluation
tools.
Everyone
who
tend
attended
the
january
sessions
was
sent
a
leaf,
a
link
to
a
brief
evaluation
survey.
T
T
We
can
also
email
or
deliver
these
kits
in
person
with
all
the
materials
needed
for
the
activities.
The
project
team
is
available
to
co-host
or
facilitate
these
meetings.
If,
if
the
hosting
organization
or
persons
want
that,
so
whatever
it's,
what
people
prefer?
This
is
one
more
channel
for
community
engagement
and
I'll
turn
it
back
to
you.
Denise.
S
Thank
you,
so
that
is
some
of
what
we've
been
doing
over
the
last
quarter
and
six
months
as
well.
So
just
to
give
you
an
idea
of
some
of
the
events
that
are
in
progress
or
right
in
the
planning
stages,
a
little
bit
of
both
as
part
of
the
cultural
history
series.
We
have
just
recently
launched
an
instagram
campaign
to.
We
have
a
message
that
a
lot
of
people
would
like
to
share
their
special
stories
and
places.
S
So
we
have
a
hashtag
campaign
in
both
english
and
spanish,
asking
people
to
share
their
people
or
places
or
events
that
are
special
to
them
and
unique
to
santa
fe.
We
also
know
that
just
having
a
say
a
talk
once
a
month
for
the
cultural
history,
series
is
obviously
not
enough
to
cover
the
history
of
santa
fe
and
also
to
engage
with
others
like
artists
and
scientists
and
storytellers
and
cultural
affairs,
so
we're
about
to
launch
a
culture
blog.
S
So
we
are
inviting
key
people
in
the
community
and
collecting
people
who
who
have
been
recommended
to
us
to
begin
this
blog
we're
preparing
for
our
next
talk
in
the
cultural
history
series
we're
in
negotiation
right
now
with
a
historian
on
subject
matter
date
and
method.
S
In
february
our
our
registrations
are
open
for
our
february
dialogues.
The
theme
is
equity.
The
dialogue
registrations
will
close
on
the
18th
of
february.
I
believe
we
already
have
over
70
people
registered
for
that
we're
continuing
on
with
dialogues
with
groups,
organizations
and
schools.
We
have
about
seven
in
the
pipeline
right
now
that
we
are
scheduling.
S
We
have
just
begun.
The
one-on-one
interview
process
coming
up
with
our
interview,
questions
and
and
inviting
people
to
do
some
in-depth
interviews,
especially
in
those
areas
like
alexis
mentioned,
the
20
to
29
year
olds,
and
we
have
a
our
art
activations
coming
up
another
one
now
called
monumental
dreams
and
conversations.
S
Let's
see
so
we
just
wanted
to
say.
Thank
you.
This
is
the
end
of
our
presentation
and
thank
you
for
your
kind
attention
and
we
are
happy
to
take
questions.
A
Thank
you.
If
you
could
give
us
back
our
screen,
I
can
see
hands
easier.
Thank
you.
A
couple
of
hands
are
already
up.
Counselor,
michael
garcia.
You
have
the
floor.
I
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
No
thank
you.
Chart
team
for
coming
to
present
to
us
tonight
really
appreciate
all
the
updated
information
hearing
about
what's
been
going
on
the
last
couple
months.
I
I
guess
I'll
start
off
where
we
kind
of
left
off
last
meeting.
In
regards
to
the
concerns
I
had
brought
forth
around
the
the
chart
process
not
ultimately
coming
forth
with
recommendations
and
on
around
statues
and
monuments,
and
I
think
there
was
recently
an
article
on
the
santa
fe
reporter,
where
I
think
it
was
miss.
I
Martinez
was
quoted
at
something
saying:
well
we're
that's
not
part
of
the
process.
It's
up
to
the
community
to
decide,
and
that's,
as
I
mentioned
in
our
last
meeting,
I
beg
to
differ.
I
The
resolution
called
for
this
process
to
focus
on
providing
those
recommendations,
so
I
just
want
to
stress
again
that
that,
as
the
facilitators,
that's
got
to
be
a
priority
of
of
leading
these
community
discussions
to
be
those
facilitators
that
lead
the
community
down
the
path
that
ultimately
to
ultimately
lead
to
these
recommendations
being
provided
to
us
at
the
end
of
this
one
year
process.
I
So
I
just
want
to
kind
of
circle
back
to
that,
because
it
I'm
still
concerned
that
we're
strain
off
of
that
that
priority,
that
that
we've
laid
out
in
the
resolution
got
a
question
around
the
community
dialogue
sessions.
Because,
again,
in
the
resolution,
we
laid
out
a
clear
process
where
we're
going
to
have
round
one
round
two
round
three
of
these
processes
and
then
ultimately
leads
to
the
community
solutions
table
so
does
are
we?
I
R
I
will
take
that
and
then
I
will
ask
either
janiece
or
valerie
to
expand
upon
that
so
the
sessions
again,
if
you've
not
attended,
I
do
encourage
you
to
attend
and
participate
so
they,
the
sessions,
have
been
broken
up
by
month
by
theme
and
there's
opportunities
again
talking
about
round.
One
is
focusing
on
stories
and
personal
identity
and
those
are
still
questions
that
are
being
asked,
and
it's
talked
about
within
the
theme
topic,
I
believe,
per
the
data
that
was
from
survey.
R
One
one
of
the
hot
topics
was
monuments,
so
that
became
the
first
subject
focus,
but
knowing
that
there
are
other
things,
issues
that
came
up
from
the
first
survey
data
and
again
they're
doing
more
than
one
survey,
but
the
first
one
was
to
really
get
a
pulse
on
what
the
community,
a
really
broad
swath
of
the
community,
was
thinking
about.
So
there
will
be
opportunities
for
people
to
sign
up.
They
are
asked
to
register,
so
there
is
a
way
to
track
who's
attending
what
rounds
and
also
being
able
to
participate.
R
T
T
As
you
know,
the
chart
contract
really
has
that
phrase,
though,
sparked
by
controversies
around
monuments
and
statues.
The
chart
project
is
much
wider
in
scope,
but
you
don't
need
to
worry.
We
have.
We
are
gathering
lots
of
information
in
terms
of
what
people
have
to
say
about
monuments,
statues,
including
soldiers,
monument,
so
we'll
have
no
scarcity
of
information
from
which
to
to
make
informed
recommendations
to
the
governing
body
in
terms
of
the
public
dialogue
sessions.
T
One
of
the
reasons
that
we
understood
that
the
governing
body
turned
away
from
a
committee
or
a
commission
was
a
concern
that
you
wanted
those
recommendations
to
be
based
on
hundreds
of
voices
and
input.
So
for
us
right,
our
diverse
engagement
strategy
as
we
went
through,
is
it's
big
and
so
it
doesn't.
There
aren't
just
three
dialogue
sessions.
There
will
be
dozens
of
dialogue
sessions,
so
people
who
consistently
participate
in
that
will,
you
know,
be
potential
members
of
the
community
solutions
table.
T
Our
contract
asks
us
to
design
and
facilitate
a
community
solutions
table
and
we're
going
to
do
that
and
have
the
members
of
that
community
solutions
table
not
just
look.
Consider
three
dialogues
but
consider
two
surveys:
dialogue
sessions,
all
of
the
notes,
all
of
the
information,
so
that
we
make
sure
that
the
recommendations
that
we
give
to
the
governing
body
are
based
on
all
of
the
voices
that
have
contributed
and
going
to
contribute
to
the
chart
process.
T
We
think
this
really
fulfills
the
spirit
of
that
shift
and
the
resolution
to
a
commission
or
board
or
recommendations
based
on
a
few
voices
to
recommendations
based
on
an
enormous
body
of
information
that
will
be
gathered
from
hundreds
of
citizens
of
the
city
and
county.
Does
that
answer
your
question.
I
It
does
so.
Thank
you,
mr
martinez.
I
appreciate
that
and
I
guess
let
me
ask
this
follow-up
just
because
I
did
have
a
concern
from
a
community
member
that
they
weren't
unable
to
participate
in
the
january
discussions,
and
they
were
concerned
that,
ultimately,
that
might
prevent
them
from
making
their
way
to
the
community
solutions
table.
So
I
was
just
wondering
how
that
was
laid
out
that
way
the
public
can
be
well
aware
of.
I
We
want
to
encourage
everybody
to
participate
as
much
as
feasibly
possible
and
and
having
you
kind
of
explain
that
these
opportunities
that
are
being
presented,
they're
going
to
be
ongoing
and
because
they
didn't
participate
in
once
kind
of
conversation,
doesn't
disqualify
them
from
the
potential
of
making
it
to
the
community
solutions
table.
Did
I
hear
that
correctly.
T
Yes,
you
did
hear
that
I
don't
know
denise
if
you
want
to
add
to
that,
but
yeah
we're
looking
at
sort
of
consistent
engagement,
and
it
doesn't
mean
only
in
public
dialogues
right
if
you
completed
a
survey,
if
you
took
part
in
an
interview,
if
you
attended
an
art
activation
that
includes
dialogue
right
all
of
those
are
essential
pieces
to
this,
and
there
will
be
many
many
people
who
participate
consistently
over
that,
whether
they
missed
one
session
or
not.
So
I
think
you
have
it
exactly
right.
Janine.
S
That's
all
right.
I
just
wanted
to
respond
to
one
thing,
mr
mayor
counselor,
garcia
about
recommendations.
That
is
definitely
on
our
mind
and
the
way
that
we
are
actually
structuring
some
of
these.
The
questions
for
the
public
dialogues,
if
you
notice
usually
the
second
question,
has
something
to
do
with
recommendations.
S
So
the
first
question
is
usually
a
little
bit
more
general
on
the
subject.
The
second
question,
as
in
monuments,
was
about
seeking
recommendations
about
what
to
do
to
if
we
need
to
reassess
existing
monuments
or
how
we
should
move
forward
in
deciding
on
future
monuments.
The
same
thing
will
be
the
structure
of
the
questions
for
equity,
which
are
just
about
to
come
out,
so
that
was
the
conscious
on
our
part,
because
we
are
seeking
reference.
You
know
recommendations
as
well
as
just
general
information.
S
You
know
and
concerns
from
everybody,
who's
participating.
I
T
I
And
miss
martinez,
we
I'm
just-
we
don't
need
to
go
over
them
at
this
moment,
but
if
we
did
collect
that
it'd
be
great
to
I'm.
I'm
glad
to
hear
that
we
do
have
that
and
because
I'd
like
to
learn
that,
whether
it's
at
the
next
meeting
or
offline
share
with
all
of
us-
but
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
we
have
that
demographic
breakdown
just.
T
T
T
I
Okay-
and
the
reason
I
ask
is
because
the
the
biggest
challenge
that
our
friends
in
albuquerque
had
when
they
went
through
a
very
similar
process
was,
you
know
the
the
city
council
felt
like
the
the
information
pulled
was
not
representative
of
the
demographic
breakdown
of
the
city
of
albuquerque,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
keeping
a
close
eye
on
that
that
way
we
can
adjust
and
pivot
accordingly
as
we're
going
through
these
sessions
as
we're
conducting
these
outreach,
because
if
we're
seeing
a
certain
populace
where
they're
just
not
showing
up
I'd
hate
for
us
to
get
to
the
end
of
this
whole
process
and
to
say
well,
we
didn't
do
anything.
I
I
think
we've
got
to
look
at
each
session
and
say:
okay
well,
we're
which,
which
demographic
is
not
showing
up.
How
do
we
continue
to
engage
them,
and
so
I
just
want
to
kind
of
put
that
out
there.
I
I
had
the
opportunity
to
attend
your.
I
think
it
was
in
november
with
a
state
historian
and
city
historian,
and
I
appreciated
that
thoughtful
conversation
that
took
place.
I
I
was
a
bit
concerned
in
regards
to
the
way
that
the
questions
at
the
end
were
handled
because,
as
you
mentioned,
there
were
140
people
online.
I
know
there
was
lots
of
comments
flying
back
and
forth
and
there
was
probably
lots
of
great
questions
that
could
have
been
asked
by
the
community
and
the
way
I
like
to
think
of
it
in
this
sense
is
put
ourselves
if
we
weren't
in
covet
and
we're
having
this.
I
This
historian
conversation
and,
let's
say
the
saint
francis
auditorium
downtown,
and
we
had
folks
that
wanted
to
ask
questions.
Would
we
have
prevented
a
community
member
from
the
audience
from
asking
a
question
and
only
allowing
the
facilitators
to
ask
a
question
I
I
walked
away
from
that
conversation
very
feeling
very
uneasy.
I
I
know
that
I
think
it
was
mr
martinez
who
ultimately
saw
that
there
was
lots
of
questions
flying
and
he
actually
addressed
one
of
the
questions
and
I
think
it
we
lost
out
on
a
great
opportunity
to
have
that
back
and
forth
dialogue
with
the
community,
which
this
whole
process
is
centered
around
and
having
folks
ask
questions
whether
it's
was
to
mr
martinez
or
mr
rank
or
mrs
rangel,
and
did
we
so
I
guess
my
question
is:
did
we
track
the
questions
that
were
asked?
I
I
S
Just
counselor
garcians
de
mayor
other
counselors,
you
know
that
was
our
first.
Our
first
attempt
we
had
to
move
really
quickly.
We
had
one
of
our
our
speakers
lined
up
who
dropped
out
at
the
last
minute.
S
We
now
have
a
commenting
policy
in
order
to
avoid
things
like
abuse
and
slander
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
so
we're
much
better
prepared
and
we
do
intend
going
forward,
for
example
like
with
our
culture
blog
that
we've
opened
up
all
of
our
social
media
comments
with
commenting
policies,
since
we
have
had
some
very
abusive
comments
going
forward.
So
we
now
have
a
policy
out
there
and
so
going
forward
for
the
cultural
history
series.
Yes,
that
it
will
be
open.
S
You
know
we're
still
designing
the
next
one
as
far
as
far
as
how
how
long
they
can
be
and
how?
How
how
our
actual
speakers
would
like
to
work
as
well,
so
we're
negotiating
with
the
next
speaker
as
to
what
they
are
comfortable
as
well
doing,
because
that
is
also
part
of
what
you
know
what
is
going
on
and
then
we'll
let
everybody
who's
participating,
know
what
the
procedures
are.
You
know
for
for
raising
a
hand
and
and
commenting
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
S
So
we
do
get
that
and
we
want
it
to
be
open.
Definitely
for
conversation,
for
all
of
you
know
all
of
these
kinds
of
events
beyond
the
public
dialogues.
I
Okay,
great.
Thank
you,
ms
garb.
I
appreciate
hearing
that
I
just
was
concerned.
We
were
gonna,
move
forward
and
say
here's
the
information,
the
public.
You
don't
get
to
ask
any
questions
of
these
experts
that
that
we're
offering
up
to
the
community.
I
With
that,
I
do
appreciate
the
work
that
the
team
is
putting
forth.
I
just
wish
you
all
the
enter,
much
energy
and
and
continue
on
with
the
work.
Thank
you
miss
gareb
martinez
with
that
and
miss
kamiyama
and
continue
doing
doing
what
you're
doing
and
if
there's
any
way
I
can
be
of
assistance.
Please
don't
hesitate
to
reach
out
no
other
questions
or
comments.
Mr
mayor.
A
Thank
you
councillor,
councillor
cassette,
you
have
the
floor
and
then
counselor
chavez.
G
Thank
you
so
much,
mr
mayor,
thank
you
all
for
the
presentation
and
and
for
the
work
thus
far.
It
is
greatly
appreciated.
I
know
that
it
is
complex
and
may
don't
be
more
complex
by
this
ongoing
pandemic
that
keeps
throwing
us
for
curveballs.
So
I
appreciate
your
flexibility
and
continued
work
and
how
you
pivot,
to
make
sure
that
we
can
do
this
as
safely
as
possible.
G
G
We
tend
to
hear
from
a
little
bit
more
of
an
open
representation
of
87501
is
compared
to
how
the
demographics
are
actually
split,
and
it
looks
like
87505
both
of
those
have
a
a
pretty
high
response
rate
as
opposed
to
what
that
looks
like
for
the
population.
G
So
I
I
know
you
sprinkled
it
in
throughout,
and
this
was
kind
of
the
beginning,
and
it
is
something
that
you're
aware
of,
but
I
would
like
to
hear
a
bit
more
of
the
plan
of
of
how
we're
going
to
be
bringing
in
a
diversity
of
voices
here,
because
I
this
is,
we
experienced
this
challenge
across
the
board
actually
was
really
interesting.
I
was
discussing
another
one
of
our
surveys
recently
that
it
was
reversed
where
we
got.
G
You
know
a
lot
more
younger
voices
and
a
lot
more
from
87507,
so
that
was
encouraging
to
see,
but
as
you're
moving
through
this
process.
What
are
some
of
the
ways
in
which
you're
going
to
be
able
to
pull
out
to
really
get
a
sample?
That
is
more
representative
of
santa
fe.
T
Well,
thank
you,
mayor
weber
and
counselor
cassette
for
that
and
as
we
went
over
in
our
diverse
engagement
strategy,
we
are
watching
those
results
and
making
particular
efforts.
I
think
we're
doing
well,
except
for
20
to
29.,
so
just
to
give
you
some
stats
for
our
february
dialogues,
where
we
asked
questions
about
demographics.
We
have
about
just
in
terms
of
race
and
ethnicity,
32,
white
31,
hispanic,
four
percent
native
and
then
31
percent
didn't
share
that
information.
T
But
just
to
give
you
an
idea,
we're
also
doing
well
with
county
and
city
as
alexis
presented,
but
the
hard
nut
to
crack
is
20
to
29.
and
for
us
we
have
reached
out
to
the
the
iaia,
the
santa
fe
community
college.
We're
thinking
that
the
20
to
29
that
we're
not
missing
are
those
that
are
not
in
college
or
university
right
and
those
are
probably
young
working
families.
T
We
are
hampered
a
little
bit
well,
a
lot,
maybe
by
covid,
but
as
things
open
up,
we
know
to
extend
our
outreach
to
places
where
people
work,
that
includes
city
government.
It
includes
the
restaurant
business,
the
retail
business,
local
businesses,
and
so
we
have
that
in
mind
and
we
are
doing
our
best
to
to
reach
out
to
those.
But
those
are
really
sort
of
in-person
engagements.
T
V
T
Are
in
school,
sometimes
they're
working
one
or
more
jobs,
they
don't
usually
come
to
town
halls
or
even
online
events.
So,
if
for
us,
that's
what
we're
looking
at
specifically
right
now
we're
pretty
pleased
with
the
diversity
of
participation.
T
Of
race
and
ethnicity
and
city
and
county,
maybe
not
specific,
zip
codes
within
the
city,
but
for
the
most
part
I
think
we're
doing
fine,
but
it
is
that
20
through
29
and
if
any
of
you
or
anybody
watching
tonight
has
advice
for
us.
You
can
always
write
to
us
at
info
artful
dash,
life.org
and
share
with
us.
Your
ideas
is
that
helpful.
G
G
Because
and
it's
true,
this
is
often
a
population
where
a
lot
of
individuals
are
working,
they're,
very
busy,
a
lot
of
young
families,
a
lot
of
individuals
who
may
not
be
english
speakers,
and-
and
so
it's
definitely
there's
a
lot
of
pieces
that
can
make
it
a
bit
more
challenging
to
to
bring
in
this
population.
And
I
you
know
thinking
how
we,
what
are
some
of
the
different
strategies
I
I
could
think
of
some
opportunities
you
know
for
especially
if
we're
looking
at
young
families
in
that
20
to
29.
W
G
Of
my
generation
we're
pushing
young
families
into
the
30
realm,
but
but
that
you
know
and
I'd
be
happy
to
talk
to
you
as
somebody
that's
well
entrenched
in
that
world.
Personally
of
some
ideas
of
where
we
might
be
able
to
reach
out
to
that
demographic.
G
A
bit
more
and
I
I
do
think
you're
right
and
I'm
hopeful
that
we
are
hopefully
going
to
enter
another
summer
like
last
summer,
where
we
had
some
more
opportunity
for
in
person
both
with
the
warmer
weather
and
with
hopefully
covid's
starting,
to
follow
a
bit
more
of
a
a
seasonal
pattern
in
its
spikes
and
drops.
And
so
that
might
be
a
bit
more
of
a
a
chance
to
to
work
with
that
group.
G
And
I
think
it
might
be
interesting
and
I'm
not
sure
what
the
possibility
is.
But
we
do
have
a
number
of
other
city
either
events
or
outreach
programs
that
are
currently
really
working
on
activating
how
we,
how
we
reach
these
other
populations,
whether
it's
you
know
midtown
and
they've,
done.
A
pretty
good
job
of
getting
some
more
voices
in
our
arpa
survey
did
a
pretty
good
job
of
getting
some
more
voices
in.
G
So
I'm
also
curious
how
we
might
leverage
some
other
city,
resources
and
city
experimentation
with
this
to
really
make
sure
that
we're
we're
getting
these
individual
voices
to
to
come
out.
G
But
I
know
it's
a
challenge
and
it's
it's
been
a
challenge,
and
so
I
appreciate
you,
you
know
looking
for
different
different
solutions
and
different
creative
ideas
to
move
forward
with
that.
But
I
agree
with
council
garcia
that
it's
important
that
we
continue
to
keep
our
finger
on
the
pulse
of
this,
so
that
we
can
make
adjustments
as
we
move
forward.
G
So
we
don't
get
to
the
end
and
see
that
we
are
concerned
that
there
might
be
some
voices
that
have
been
left
out
of
this
process
and
and
make
sure
that
we
have
done
what
we
can.
So
I
thank
you
for
that,
and
I
will
also
continue
to
think
about
it
and
reach
out
to
some
of
my
networks
and
groups
and
we'll
we'll
all
come
to
find
some
ideas
together.
So
thank
you.
C
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
and
I
want
to
thank
you
for
the
presentation
because,
as
you
said,
we
have
new
council
members
and
I'm
one
of
them.
So
I
am
diving
into
this
and
learning.
But
the
thing
that
stood
out
to
me
in
the
presentation
is,
you
know.
I
see
that
we
mention
you
know
those
who
provided
meeting
spaces
we
mentioned.
C
You
know
how
we're
utilizing
media
or
through
different
media
sources,
but
I
don't
see
utilization
of
community
partners
and
I'm
wondering
how
that
looks
and
the
reason
why
I
ask
that
is
because
you
know
I
have
a
lot
of
experience
in
engaging
the
community
and
I
was
kind
of
powerless
in
that
effort
without
engaging
community
partners,
because
a
lot
of
our
community
here
in
santa
fe
depend
on
the
advocacy
of
those
partners.
C
C
So
how
are
we
utilizing
the
people
that
have
the
relationships
that
have
that
connection
that
our
community
feels
safe
with?
Because
I
think
that's
essential
here
in
santa
fe,
some
people
don't
feel
safe
to
voice
and
they
really
only
will
voice
if
they
have
those
people
beside
them.
So
if
you
could
just
kind
of
share
with
me,
if
you
have
that
information,
you
know
who
we've
engaged
with
how
those
relationships
look
or
if
they
even
exist
at
this
point,
sure
we're.
T
Happy
to-
and
I
think
the
schools
that
we've
engaged
with
was
on
one
of
the
slides
that
you
have
so
those
are
very
specific.
We've
also
had
some
wonderful
support
from
the
santa
fe
public
schools,
the
superintendent
who
put
out
on
their
their
text
blasts
to
high
school
students,
especially
to
complete
the
survey.
That's
why
we
saw
some
in
those
numbers
that
alex
is
presented,
we're
actually
doing
really
well
with
eight
to
six.
You
know
high
school
age
students
we
also
want
to
thank.
T
We
have
high
school
interns
who
are
part
of
the
project
team,
so
they
go
to
capitol
high
school
pojoaque
valley
high
school,
and
they
are
we
meet
with
them
every
week
and
they
had
they
took
the
survey
into
the
schools.
So
we
also
had
a
classroom
visit
at
the
el
camino
real
academy,
and
so
we
reach
out
to
schools
consistently
to
just
see
if
they'd
like
for
us
to
send
the
chart
kits
and
things
like
that,
we've
met
with,
and
I
can
we
send
you
the
number
many
many
organizations.
T
T
And
we
have
upcoming
events
that
are
in
partnership
with
some
of
those
organizations.
Some
of
those
are
art
activations.
We
might
have
films
with
dialogue
afterwards
with
theater
companies
with
arts
organizations
who
will
be
involved
in
the
art.
Activations
we've
also
been
reaching
out
to
social
service
organizations,
to
tell
them
about
the
chart
project
and
to
invite
them
into
the
process
and
to
talk
to
us
about
that.
T
So
we
have
a
list
of
those
organizations,
and
so
we've
put
invitations
out
there
and
organizations
have
responded
and
we're
doing
our
best
to
partner
with
them
and
collaborate
with
them
in
the
way
they
would
like
to
collaborate
with
the
project.
That's
you're
really
right
that
that's
very
important
information
in
meeting
with
them.
T
We
do
a
short
presentation
about
chart
and
then
we
ask
them
to
talk
to
us
about
the
work
that
they're
doing
and
how
we
how
they
think
that
work
intersects
with
the
mission
and
purpose
of
chart,
and
so
we
hope
that
we're
nimble
and
open
to
collaborating
with
organizations
throughout
the
throughout
the
project.
It's
a
really
good
question
and
thank
you
because
that
should
be
something
that
we
include.
Maybe
in
a
slide
for
next
time,.
C
C
So
if
we
want
to
capture
our
the
larger
portion
of
our
community,
we
have
to
figure
out
how
to
engage
schools
and
how
to
come,
how
to
team
up
with
them
so
that
they're
delivering
our
message
right,
they're,
bringing
the
community
in
they're
delivering
the
message
and
that's
kind
of
true
with
the
community
partners.
You
know
almost
going
beyond
an
invitation
and
saying
okay,
we
need
you
to
pull
those
members
you
support
in
and
we
could
use
it
like.
C
There
could
be
a
school
location
used
like
that's
kind
of
what
I've
seen
work
in
engaging
our
community,
because
it's
a
safe
space
right.
Our
schools
are
a
safe
space.
These
partners
are
kind
of,
like
I
say
the
advocates
that
make
that
voice
more
comfortable
to
be
shared,
so
yeah.
I
would
love
to
see
the
list.
C
I
would
love
to
see
how,
like
it
all,
comes
together,
and
maybe
I
could
meet
with
you
individually
to
kind
of
get
more
clarification
on
that
and
just
offer
some
advice
on
how
you
know
we
could
expand
kind
of
brainstorm
with
you.
But
thank
you
for
sharing
and
if
you
can
send
that
to
me,
I'm
sure
others
would
like
that
list
as
well.
I
would
love
to
see
it.
C
R
Councillor
chavez
will
definitely
do
that.
Follow
up.
R
C
D
Thank
you
mayor
and
thank
you,
ladies
for
the
chart,
update
it's
appreciated
and
I
did
actually
participate
in
the
november
event.
The
the
cultural
history
series.
I
I
actually
found
that
very
fascinating
and
engaging
and
actually
heard
from
other
people
saying
that
they
really
appreciated
it
and
learned
a
few
things.
I
do
agree
with
my
colleague.
D
There
were
some
interesting
questions
and
important
questions,
and
maybe
next
time
when
we
have
that,
because
zoom
is
just
this
difficult
platform
in
general
to
try
to
like
synthesize
everything
quickly
and
then
keep
people
engaged
and
make
making
sure
that
they
stay
on
online,
because
you
know
it's
not
very
fun,
as
we
know
on
council
staying
seven
to
eight
hours
on
zoom.
D
So
I
I
think
what
would
be
helpful
is
getting
those
questions,
maybe
copying
them
and
then
on
the
website
as
a
follow-up
to
those
series
to
be
able
to
have
somebody
answer
them.
If
they
can,
I
know
some
of
them
may
have
been
personal
or
they
didn't
agree
with
what
someone
was
saying,
but
I
think
there
was
actually
questions
that
were
brought
up.
That,
I
think,
would
be
helpful
to
know.
D
So
if,
if
the
next
cultural
series,
the
same
thing
will
probably
be
on
zoom,
if
there's
questions
that
come
up
through
that
through
the
chat,
if
we
can,
if
you
can
collect
those
and
then
actually
maybe
have
somebody
answer
them,
that
would
be
great,
because
I
was
curious
about
some
of
the
some
of
the
things
that
were
were
asked.
So
just
a
note
to
that,
I
was
looking
on
the
website
for
the
next
public
dialogue
session.
D
So
those
public
dialect
sessions,
they're
small,
you
all
cap
it
at
a
certain
number,
and
is
it
random,
like
whoever
signs
up
they're
in
that
group
they're
in
that
next
public
dialogue
session?
Is
that
how
it
works?
T
Viria,
so
anybody
can
sign
up,
and
so
we
plan
as
many
sessions
as
to
accommodate
the
number
of
people
who
sign
up
and
then
they're
giving
us
their
preferences.
So
we
we
give
them
tuesdays,
thursdays,
saturdays
and
sundays,
and
they
tell
us
which
days
they
can
attend.
So
then
we
have
to
reorganize
everybody
who's
registered
for
the
nights
that
they
can
attend,
and
so
then,
once
we
figure
out
who
can
attend
that
night,
then
we
assign
them
in
small
groups
for
that
night.
So
it's
a.
T
We
have
to
say
thank
you
to
our
administrative
coordinator
kirsten
again,
because
that
is
an
enormous
job
and
then
it
depends
on
who
shows
up
that
night.
So
she
schedules
and
we
try
to
create
small
groups,
the
best
that
we
can
and
then
some
people
show
up
and
some
people
don't.
So
we
have
to
reshuffle
in
the
moment
when
we
get
on
zoom.
T
If
you
all
can
imagine
if
we
were
doing
this
in
person,
let's
say
we
would
be
maybe
at
the
downtown
convention
center
we
might
have
80
people,
they
would
come
in,
they
would
register
and
we
would
have
them
move
into
these
small
groups
at
tables
same
thing.
We're
just
trying
to
do
this
by
zoom
as
best
that
we
can.
T
The
word
listen
comes
up,
you
know
many
many
times
and
people
have
said
to
us
over
and
over
again
that
we
need
to
listen
to
each
other,
that
people
have
been
dissatisfied
with
people
not
listening
or
they're,
not
being
an
equal
space
for
people
to
share
their
views,
and
so
we've
structured
those
dialogues.
So
everybody
has
equal
time
to
speak
and
people
do
listen
and
that's
why
we
have
smaller
groups,
as
you
all
can
imagine
in
a
group
of
a
hundred,
it's
impossible
to
do
that.
T
But
people
are
telling
us
that
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
structure
these
dialogues
so
that
everybody
gets
to
be
heard.
That's
really
important
to
us,
but
that's
kind
of
how
the
this
form
of
public
dialogue.
Again,
we
have
many
others
that
are
going
on,
including
this
is
addressing
counselor
travis
organizations.
It's
an
open
call
if
they
would
like
to
host
in
our
meeting
and
then
we
tailor
that
to
that
particular
organization's.
U
D
Session
if
you'd
like
to
participate
great,
thank
you
for
the
details
of
that.
I
was
curious
how
that
works.
I
wish
I
could
participate.
I
don't
have
time.
To
be
honest,
I
don't
think
my
colleagues
have
a
time
either
to
be
able
to
sign
up
for
these,
but
I
was
actually
curious
if
they're
recorded,
but
they're
not
recorded
for
the
public
consumption
after
it
happens,
you
just
collect
the
information
and
people's
feedback
and,
and
then
that
goes
into
the
kind
of
the
larger
data
collection.
Is
that
how
it
works?
T
Small
group
session,
that
is
for
internal
purposes
and
we've
made
a
commitment
to
those
who
participate
that
we're
never
going
to
share
comments
attached
to
their
names
or
anything
like
that.
Those
are
for
us
to
watch,
but
we
have
deep
note
takers
as
well.
We
have
two
two
ways
of
documenting
those
small
group
sessions,
because
we
want
to
make
sure
that
every
single
word
becomes
part
of
that
large
body
of
data.
That's
going
to
help
us
make
recommendations,
so
we
have
two.
T
But
for
obvious
reasons
we
want
people
to
share
honestly
in
their
small
groups,
and
so
we
keep
that
we
keep
those
recordings
internally.
But
we
we
can
use
those
recordings
not
only
to
make
sure
that
the
notes
reflect
what
happened,
but
they
can
also
be
used
for
training
purposes
for
our
facilitators,
as
we
all
get
better
and
better
at
public
dialogue,
facilitation.
D
Thank
you
thanks
for
the
details.
The
one
thing
I
also
noticed
for
the
theme
is
equity,
and
I
would
just
encourage
you
to
define
it
on
the
website
and
also
at
the
beginning
of
your
sessions,
because
not
not
everybody
uses
that
term
the
same
way
and
and
it
would
be
good
to
understand
how
it's
different
from
equality
and
just
being
able
to
to
cover
and
understand
with
what
the
theme
and
why
you
selected
that.
So,
if
you
could
even
on
the
website,
define
equity,
that
would
be
great.
D
The
other
question
I
had
was
two
other
questions.
One
was
curious
if
there
was
any
intersection
with
what
little
globe
is
putting
together,
they're
doing
neighborhood
historians
and
they
have
a
program
with
community
members
and
I'm
just
curious
if
there's
a
connection
to
them
and
the
work
you're
doing
with
chart.
T
Organizations
so
we
had
a
wonderful
meeting
with
them.
We
know
about
their
work,
as
many
of
you
may
know
that
I
was
part
of
little
globe
before
I
started
work
with
artful
life,
so
I
know
their
work
and
admire
their
work,
and
so
we
have
some
plans
in
the
works
with
them,
but
they
were
lovely.
We
had
three
members
of
their
staff
come
and
we've
been
looking
at
all
of
their
short
films,
which
we
can
recommend.
T
D
Yeah,
that's
great
to
hear
I
I
really
like
that
approach
and
having
community
members
go
out
into
the
neighborhoods,
their
neighborhoods
and
and
capturing
lived
experiences
like
a
local
historian.
So
I'm
excited
to
hear
and
see
what
comes
out
of
that
process
and
then
last.
This
was
always
an
important
piece
to
me
and
has
been
just
as
as
I've
been
on
council
about
having
opportunities
for
not
just
the
governing
body
or
city
officials,
but
our
entire
staff
to
have
implicit
bias
training.
R
That,
mr
mayor
councillor
vial,
we
are
working
around
working
with
both
christine
and
the
city
attorney
mcsherry,
to
try
to
schedule
that
and
to
figure
out
which
format.
R
If
it
can
be
a
special
study
session
and
or
do
we
have
to
break
it
up
into
smaller
groups
and
what
that
would
look
like
so
trying
to
get
that
confirmed
and
looking
probably
at
april,
which
allows
us
time
to
get
that
scheduled
as
well
as
artful
life
to
get
the
facilitators,
lined
up
and
figure
out
what
format,
time
frame
and
all
that.
So
we
will
have
more
information,
hopefully
by
the
end
of.
D
This
month,
great,
I'm
excited
for
that.
I
think
it's
very
important
that
my
colleagues
get
to
experience
that
too
bad
it's
on
zoom,
but
you
know
it
is
what
it
is.
I
would
suggest,
maybe
not
april,
because
we're
starting
our
budget
hearings
and
we're
gonna
have
a
pretty
hefty
load
for
meetings
outside
of
our
regular
meeting
schedule.
So
that's
all
I
have
for
tonight
and
thank
you
all.
I
appreciate
you.
A
Very
good,
thank
you
for
joining
us
thanks
for
the
comprehensive
slide
deck,
as
well
as
the
thoughtful
and
deep
responses
to
all
the
questions,
and
we
will
see
you
again
soon.
Thank
you.
J
It
is
a
request
for
approval
of
amendment
number
one,
the
santa
fe
public
schools,
adelante
cdeg
contract
to
add
compensation
in
the
amount
of
seventeen
thousand
dollars
for
a
total
compensation
of
thirty
seven
thousand
one
hundred
and
six
dollars
so
that
the
twenty
thousand
dollars
originally
allocated
to
the
coming
home
connections.
Casas,
yellow
project
is
redistributed
to
other
public
service
activities
for
the
2021-2022
program
here
alexandra
ladder
director
of
the
office
of
affordable
housing
is
available
for
this
item.
A
Okay,
we'll
let
you
step
out
and
then
we'll
text
you
when
it's
time.
J
A
So
with
that
being
accomplished,
do
we
have
a
motion
for
I
move.
A
I
heard
a
motion
to
approve
from
councillor
merworth
in
a
second
from
councillor.
Lindell,
do
we
have
discussion
or
questions
from
islam.
A
I
don't
see
any
hands
going
up.
Madam
clerk,
could
you
call
the
roll
on
the
motion.
E
L
A
A
A
All
right,
if
you
will
return
counselor
chavez
to
our
zoom,
our
our
our
our
internal
zoom
call
that'd
be
great.
Thank
you.
Yes,.
A
I'm
a
bit
of
two
minds:
it's
ten
minutes
to
seven,
which
is
what
our
new
process
says
is
when
we'll
try
to
get
to
our
petitions
from
the
floor,
we
don't
want
to
get
to
it
before
seven,
because
people
may
be
waiting
to
dial
in
at
seven.
On
the
other
hand,
the
other
item
that
has
been
taken
off
of
consent
by
counselor,
michael
garcia
may
take
us
a
little
bit
of
time
to
work
our
way
through,
depending
on
the
the
way
it
works
out.
Counselor
cassit
your
hand
is
up.
A
A
Yeah,
I
think
that
would
be
appropriate.
Okay,.
G
I'll
move
to
amend
the
agenda
to
move
petitions
from
the
floor
to
our
next
item
and
then
we
will
resume
with
the
rest
of
our
business.
After
that.
H
A
There's
a
motion
there's
a
second
to
change
the
agenda
so
that
at
roughly
705
we'll
resume
taking
up
petitions
from
the
floor
and
then
coming
back
to
the
item
that
counselor,
michael
garcia,
took
off
of
consent.
Is
there
a
discussion,
madam
clerk,
can
you
call
the
role.
A
A
Great
so,
let's,
let's
it's
now
6
54
by
my
clock:
let's
come
back
at
7
10
if
that's
enough
time
for
people
to
stretch
their
legs
and
maybe
find
a
quick
bite
to
eat
and
then
we'll
be
back
with
petitions
from
the
floor
at
that
time.
Thanks
everybody.
A
Okay,
welcome
back
everybody.
I
think
we're
all
back.
I
see
cameras
on
for
the
most
part,
it's
actually
7
12
by
my
clock,
so
apologies
to
everybody
who
was
waiting
in
the
attendee
room
for
petitions
from
the
floor,
but
by
the
motion
that
we
adopted.
We
move
now
to
petitions
from
the
floor
and
I
would
remind
everybody
who
wishes
to
speak
at
this
time
that
there
are
other
items
pending
where
public
input
is
welcome,
including
public
comment
on
on
bills.
A
Item
number
17
our
first
time
for
following
our
new
procedural
rule
for
comment
on
that,
as
well
as
several
public
hearings
that
are
pending.
So
if
you
wish
to
speak
on
those
items,
please
don't
do
that
now,
but
wait
until
those
items
come
up.
If
you
have
something
separate
and
unrelated
to
those
items,
now
would
be
the
time
if
you're
in
the
attendee
room,
to
raise
your
hand
and
the
city
clerk
will
recognize
you
and
will
give
you
two
minutes
to
speak
to
the
governing
body.
Madam
clerk.
X
Thank
you.
Can
you
hear
me,
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
yes,
okay,
thank
you
stephanie
beninato.
I
want
to
speak
on
two
items.
One
has
to
do
with
volunteer
positions
on
boards.
I
notice
that
gina
zemora's
being
appointed
to
some
board
and
again
I
just
wonder
if
you
can't
find
somebody
off
the
list
of
ex-employees
or
your
200
best
people
to
be
on
these
boards.
I
applied
to
be
on
a
board.
There
were
two
of
us
who
put
in
applications.
X
It
was
for
the
historians
position
on
the
archaeological
review
board,
which
I
am
highly
qualified
to
fill,
and
yet
that
position
was
extended
two
times
and
miss
piccarella
was
beating
the
bushes
to
try
to
find
a
historian.
She
would
go
to
the
h
board
and
beg
them
to
have
somebody
else
come
forward
and
apply.
How
do
you
think
that
really
makes
somebody
who's
volunteering
for
that
position
filled?
Do
you
feel
that
we
should
feel
respected
and
that
we
are.
X
Of
this
community,
because
I
felt
like
it
was
a
slap
in
the
face
and
then
the
other
problem
is
with
land
use.
I
keep
getting
run
around
by
land
use,
I'm
an
agent
for
an
owner
of
a
property.
They
will
not
respond
to
my
questions
like
how
do
you
get
something
to
be
a
legal
lot
of
record
lee
logsdon
jason
kluke?
They
wouldn't
respond
to
me,
but
when
the
owner
went
forward,
oh
my
gosh,
they
were
right,
responding.
J
X
Him
but
they
are
jerking
him
around
running
him
around
and
not
giving
him
good
information.
So
again,
I
am
back
in
the
agent's
position.
I
have
always
been
there,
but
he's
authorized
me
to
go
forward
on
my
own.
He
doesn't
want
to
be
involved
in
trying
to
figure
out
the
process,
so
I
do
hope
that
your
land
use
director
and
the
people
in
the
department
will
be
a
little
bit
more
responsive
to
simple
questions.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you.
Are
there
others
in
the
attendee
room
again,
this
is
petitions
from
the
floor
unrelated
to
any
of
the
items
that
will
be
public
hearings
or
public
comment
later
in
the
agenda.
If
you
have
something
now,
this
would
be
the
time
to
please
raise
your
hand.
A
J
Absolutely
this
is
item
j.
It's
consideration
of
a
resolution.
It
is
sponsored
by
councillor,
garcia,
councilwoman,
villarreal,
counselor,
cassette,
councillor
malworth
and
councillor
rivera.
J
It's
a
resolution
amending
resolution
number
2020-14
to
change
the
location
of
the
banners
commemorating
hometown
heroes
along
the
cerrillos
road
corridor
between
I-25
and
rodeo,
road
to
between
I-25
and
the
intersection
of
st
michael's
drive
and
osage
avenue.
I
believe
jessie
ian.
Our
legislative
liaison
is
available
for
this
item
as
well,
as
I
think
I'll
leave
it
with
jesse.
For
the
moment.
A
Thank
you
so
councilor
garcia
before
I
turn
the
floor
over
to
you,
because
you're
the
one
who
took
it
off
of
consent.
Let
me
entertain
a
motion,
so
we'll
have
something
on
the
floor
in
front
of
us
move
to
approve
exactly
there's
a
motion
to
approve
from
counselor,
michael
garcia,
a
second
from
madam
clerk.
Did
you
hear
who
seconded
it.
A
There
were,
there
were
a
number
of
voices.
She
was
certainly
one
of
them
so
with
the
consent
of
the
others
we'll
mark
councilwoman
viral
is
seconding
it.
So,
with
that
on
the
floor
before
us,
a
motion
to
approve
councilor,
garcia,
michael
garcia,
you
took
it
off
the
agenda
off
the
consent
calendar.
You
have
the
floor.
I
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
and
I
just
want
to
first
give
thanks
to
all
the
veterans
in
our
country,
all
those
who
have
reached
out
to
support
the
expansion
of
this
program.
Mr
don
christie,
who's
helped
along
with
this
project,
since
its
exception,
and
through
this
expansion,
the
co-sponsors
and
as
well
as
staff.
I
I
mean
this
has
been
a
a
project
where
we've
kind
of
gone
back
and
forth,
and
I've
learned
a
lot
going
through
this
process
and
it's
one
of
those
things
where
you
learn
something
new
every
day,
and
you
know
with
city
government,
there's
always
new,
lose
new
laws,
policies,
etc.
That
you
find
out
about
that.
You
didn't
know
about
folks
know
this
project
has
been
we've
been
involved
in
it
since
2019
been
very
well
received.
I
We
were
the
first
in
the
state
to
develop
this
type
of
project,
which
has
led
other
cities
throughout
the
state
to
want
to
replicate
the
program
we've
installed
and
other
cities
actually
across
the
country.
Have
figure
have
reached
out
to
figure
out
how
we've
done
it
and
how
they
can
follow
suit
as
well.
I
So
it's
been
a
one
of
those
shining
spotlights
on
our
city,
where
we
are
honoring
the
veterans
in
our
community
and
in
particular,
some
in
some
instances,
folks
that
were
had
to
go
serve
the
military
that
that
didn't
want
to
go
serve
whether
it
was
in
world
war
ii
or
vietnam
war.
I
mean
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
honoring
those
that
served
our
country.
We,
as
I
went
through
this
process,
I
did
run
into
some
challenges
and-
and
I
think
this
is
where
you
know-
interpretation
then
comes
into
play.
I
I
in
particular
recently
the
ordinance
banner
for
folks
that
might
not
know,
was
updated
to
allow
for
the
city
to
install
banners
throughout
the
city
and
and
thus
far,
we've
installed
these
banners,
the
veterans,
banners,
the
guadalupe
banners
and,
and
then
I
think,
last
month
we
approved
the
lafonda
banners
and
so
that
we
have
these
the
ordinance
that
guides
it
guides
the.
I
How
and
what
can
be
hung
the
process
etc
and
there's
a
there's
a
part
in
our
actual
ordinance
that
I
think
we've
had
some
confusion
or
maybe
difference
of
opinion
in
regards
to
interpretation
and-
and
in
particular
this
this
I
want
to
refer
back
to
our
city,
ordinance
and
and
which
is
14-8.10,
and
that
section
is
going
over
the
signs
section
and
any
of
my
colleagues
that
might
want
to
follow
along.
I
This
is,
in
particular,
section
a
and
subsection
two
d4,
I
mean
b4
and
the
way
it
reads
is
a
resolution
adopting
a
banner's
use,
they'll
express
the
governing
body's
discretion
and
specifying
the
appropriate
dates,
locations,
number
installation,
maintenance
and
cost
allocation,
if
applicable,
the
ship.
I
The
city's
shall
not
be
responsible
for
any
costs
associated
with
third
party
to
erect
banners
requesting
january
1st
2020.,
and
I
think
this
is
where
the
confusion
came
in,
and
I
think
this
is
helpful
in
the
sense
to
helping
the
public
understand,
because
my
interpretation
and
of
third
party
and
and
throughout
my
entire
professional
career
is
you've
got
party.
I
One,
for
example,
in
this
case
would
be
the
city
party
two
would
be
the
american
legion
who's
requesting
the
banners
and
then
party
three
would
be
in
any
additional
entity
that
would
come
into
play,
whether
it's
the
institution
providing
the
banners
any
any
other
party,
besides
us
or
the
the
american
legion,
and
so
that
was
my
whole
thought
process.
Moving
forward
with
this,
because
you
know,
unfortunately,
this
this
came
up
and
this
ordinance
actually
prevents
the
city
from
installing
the
banners.
I
As
I
mentioned,
the
city
has
installed
the
banners
in
2019,
2020
and
2021,
and
this
ordinance
actually
prohibits
the
city
from
from
installing
the
banners
or
or
not
that
the
way
I'm
reading
it.
It
doesn't
third
party,
and
I
think
that's
the
big
confusion,
because,
as
I
mentioned
third
party
is
us
and
the
american
legion
or
party
142
party,
three
is
any
outside
entity.
I
I
am
now
learning
that
that
is
actually
not
the
case,
which
is
unfortunate
because
our
partners
with
the
american
legion
were
anticipating
and
for
the
city
to
hang
the
banners.
Should
this
pass,
I
mean,
even
if
this
didn't
pass,
there
still
would
be
the
banners
that
would
be
hung
from
I-25
to
cerrios,
and
the
american
legion
was
moving
forward
with
the
thoughts
that
the
city
has
hung
him
in
the
past.
I
So
if
we
can
have,
if
I
can
have
city
attorney,
mccherry
explain
what
we
mean
by
third
party
there
in
that
portion
of
the
ordinance.
M
Mayor
webber,
council
garcia.
I
guess
I'd
like
to
start
with
some
context,
so
the
ordinance
was
adopted
in
2019
prior
to
that.
Only
the
400
year
anniversary
banners
were
permitted,
no
other
banners
right
and
so
in
2019,
a
new
bill
was
proposed
to
open
up
the
opportunity
for
banners
in
additional
circumstances
that
the
city
chose
to
celebrate.
M
During
the
discussion
of
adoption
of
that
bill,
there
was
an
amendment
proposed
and
adopted.
That
was
no
cost
will
be
city
funded
after
2020
for
third-party
groups,
and
the
discussion
was
that
some
requests
will
be
city
requests,
for
example,
the
anniversary
banners
and
some
requests
will
be
by
outside
parties.
Third
party
groups
terms
of
this
use
of
third
party:
it's
like
a
third
party
beneficiary
to
a
program,
meaning
they
have
no
rights,
but
they
do
benefit
from
the
program.
I
Okay,
thank
you,
mr
mayor,
and,
and
I
think
you
know,
I
think,
that's
where
we
it's
caused
the
confusion,
as
I
mentioned,
because
it's
now
put
the
american
legion
in
the
predicament
where,
unfortunately,
they
do
not
have
the
resources
to
hang
the
banner.
If
this
falls
on
them
to
hang
the
banners,
they
won't
get
hung
and
it
ultimately
puts
the
program
in
jeopardy,
which
I
do
not
think
any
of
us
want
to
see,
and
so
I
guess
my
question
is
to
hopefully
alleviate
the
situation.
I
This
would
require
an
amendment
to
the
ordinance
to
change
this
prohibition.
I
I
know
that
there
had
been
potential
discussion
of
anti-donation
of
city
staff
city
using
city
staff
time
to
support
an
initiative
like
this
and
it
being
considered
anti-donation,
and
we
can't
do
that.
Is
that
come
into
play
or
are
there
any
other
factors
where
it
might
prohibit
the
city
from
hanging
the
banners.
I
I
would
have
to
ask
the
organization
I
I
can't
speak
on
their
behalf.
I
I
M
I
Okay,
sorry,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
ultimately
we're
working
to
try
to
support
this
program.
The
best
we
can
this.
This
is
a
project
that
I
think
in
all
honesty,
the
city
has
pretty
much
taken
over.
I
appreciate
the
support
that
mr
christie
has
kind
of
put
forth
the
last
couple
years,
but
the
city
has
really
taken
ownership
of
this
project.
I
mean
we
put
together
a
video
highlighting
the
project
anytime.
You
see
it
really
highlighted
in
the
media.
I
This
is
a
city
project
and
thus
I
think
the
city
should
continue
to
support
it
any
which
way
we
can
and
that's
why
I'm
just
trying
to
explore
how
we
as
a
city
can
continue
to
support
this
fantastic
project
that
has
been
so
well
received,
not
only
by
folks
in
this
community
but
folks,
honestly
worldwide.
I
think
this
is
a
project
that
folks
have
really
really
come
to
love
and
I'm
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
how
we
move
forward.
I
With
that,
I
don't
know
if
any
of
my
my
colleagues
on
the
council
have
any
ideas
of
how
was
the
city
can
continue
to
support
the
hanging
of
these
banners
because,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
if,
if
the
city
doesn't
the
american
legion,
doesn't
unfortunately
have
the
resources
to
do
so
and
which
ultimately
could
put
this
program
in
jeopardy,
and
I
think
it's
most
likely
that
it
would-
and
we
wouldn't
have
these
banners
hanging
representing
our
the
veterans
in
our
community
with
that
there
was
an
amendment
I
had
prepared,
because
my
interpretation
of
third
party
was
completely
different
than
the
interpretation
provided
by
the
city
attorney.
I
I
was
moving
forward
off
of
the
interpretation
of
party,
one
being
the
city
party,
two
being
the
american
legion
party,
three
being
anybody
else,
because
you
know
I
completely
agree
with
third-party
resources
shouldn't
be
put
on
the
the
city.
You
know
because
the
way
I
interpreted
it
was
if
the
american
legion
went
and
contracted
with
somebody
to
hire
the
banners
they
couldn't
stick
the
city
with
the
bill.
That's
the
way.
I
I'm
reading
I
read
the
ordinance,
and
that
was
why
I
was
introducing
the
amendments
to
and
further
ensure
that
should
the
american
legion
take
a
different
course
they
couldn't
say:
well,
you
supported
us
in
the
past.
Here's
the
bill
for
it.
Now
I
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
were
covering
all
bases.
So
with
that
I
I
won't
be
moving
forward
with
the
amendment
I
I
had
proposed
because
of
the
interpretation.
The
third
party
is
not,
as
I
anticipated
with
that
feel
free
to
open
it
up
to.
A
Thank
you,
counselor
councilwoman,
vietreau,
your
hand
is
up
you
up
the
floor.
Thank.
D
You
mayor,
excuse
me
there
is
a
representative
from
the
american
legion
post
12
in
the
waiting
room.
If
you
wanted
to
ask
that
question,
I
believe
that
they
don't
fundraise,
but
we
can
ask
that
question
if
we
want
from
the
person,
it's
actually
not
a
public
hearing
right,
but
I'm
saying
if
we
wanted
to
clarify
that
point.
D
The
other
thing
I
wanted
to
mention
is
that
we
now
we
just
approved
that
official
memorandum
of
agreement
between
our
veterans,
advisory
board
and
the
santa
fe
veterans
alliance
and
the
veterans
alliance
is
a
nonprofit
in
which
we'll
be
able
to
fundraise
for
various
aspects
related
to
veterans,
and
so
I
was
curious
if
that
entity
could
then
help
figure
out
how
to
with
funds
raised
that
they
could
help
with
the
installment
of
the
banners.
I
don't
know
who
can
answer
that,
though,.
A
Well,
if
it's
a
legal
question
as
to
whether
or
not
external
funds
could
be
applied
from
raising
funds
on
behalf
of
the
banners
being
put
up
by
others
than
the
city,
the
city
attorney
could
address
whether
there's
any
whether
the
city
has
any
problem
with
that.
M
Mayor
every
council
I'd
like
the
opportunity
to
look
more
closely
at
that
agreement
without
doing
answering
on
the
spot.
I
think
those
funds
are
supposed
to
be
dedicated
to
city
purposes
and
then
just
say
so
I
would.
I
would
want
to
look
at
that
more
carefully.
D
M
May
remember
councillor:
yes,
there
are
all
banners
under
this
program
are
required
to
be
government
speech,
so
they
and
they
are
required
to
have
the
logo
on
them.
So
they're
required
to
have
a
resolution
they're
required
to
have
a
message
supported
by
this
body,
they're
required
to
have
a
community
based
message
which
either
is
in
celebration
of
a
particular
holiday,
as
in
this
case,
because
we
put
them
up
between
memorial,
day
and
veterans
day
and
we're
allowing
the
use
of
city
property.
So
all
of
that
is
part
of
the
city
speech.
A
Thank
you.
I
I
think
your
thing
I
councilwoman,
I
think
your
thought
is
similar
to
my
train
of
thought,
which
is,
I
think
there
are
many
different
avenues
to
help
get
the
banners
erected.
I
think
this
resolution
in
front
of
us
right
now
is
simply
in
a
a
continuation
of
our
support
and
certification
of
our
ongoing
support
and
I'm
quite
confident
that,
as
counselor
garcia
pointed
out,
the
support
for
this
is
so
widespread.
A
There's
going
to
be
a
way
to
get
the
banners
erected,
that's
to
me
is
just
a
matter
of
figuring
out
the
the
shortest
distance
between
two
points.
They're,
three
hands
up.
I
see
them
in
the
order
and
counselor
lindell.
You
have
the
floor.
F
Thank
you
mayor,
so
I've
kind
of
followed
this
along
and
I
I
haven't
been
really
in
any
particular
specific
discussions
with
anybody
about
it.
But
following
from
the
sidelines,
I
pretty
much
came
to
the
conclusion
that
other
people
have
been
talking
about
that
we're
going
to
need
to
raise
the
money
to
do
this.
F
So
I
started
working
on
that
today
and
I
am
just
absolutely
thrilled
to
report
that
right
at
the
very
beginning
of
our
meeting
tonight,
I
got
an
assurance
from
pat
vincent
collin,
the
president
of
pnm
and
the
ceo
of
pnm,
that
they
would
install
these
banners
for
us.
So
we
can
take
this
year's
fundraising
off
the
table
and
it's
kind
of
one
of
those.
F
F
These
are
going
on
light
poles
and
that
connected
the
dot
to
pnm
with
me
and
the
president
and
ceo
said:
yeah
we'll
do
it
for
you,
so
we're
taken
care
of
with
this
for
now
and
if
we
want
to
have
other
discussions
about
it
in
the
future
other
ways
to
fundraise.
A
Thank
you,
counselor
council
romero
worth
and
then
councillor
cassid.
H
Thank
you,
mayor,
wow,
that's
incredible
news
and
thank
you
to
you
counselor
and
to
pnm
for
helping
with
this,
and
I
I
do
think
it's
an
example
of.
I
don't
know
that
this
is
the
kind
of
thing
that
you
know.
This
is
the
sort
of
thing
that
we
can
work
on
on
offline.
I
I
would
just
sort
of
point
out
a
couple
of
things.
One.
The
resolution
as
introduced
requires
a
variety
of
things.
H
It's
supposed
to
give
the
dates,
the
location,
the
number
of
banners,
the
design
approval
process,
the
installation,
the
maintenance
and
the
cost
allocation
which,
as
introduced
said,
the
american
legion
post
12
shall
be
responsible
for
all
costs,
associating
with
the
purchasing
installation
and
removal
of
the
banners-
and
I
I
I
think
it's
this
is
this-
is
this
goes
this.
This
hanging
of
banners
is
not
just
about
this
veterans
group,
but
it's
about
all
hanging
about
banners
under
our
program
and
the
cities
needing
to
allocate
those
costs.
H
We
can't
afford
to
hang
banners,
and
so
I
am
delighted
that
pnm
has
stepped
in
here
because,
as
has
been
pointed
out,
this
is
a
very
popular
program
and
I
support
it
wholeheartedly.
I
support
the
veterans
wholeheartedly.
I'm
a
co-sponsor
of
this
resolution.
My
family
is
interned
at
the
national
cemetery.
H
I
I
members
of
my
family,
so
I
I
just
think
this
is
an
important
program
as
as
counselor
garcia
mentioned,
and
we
are
in
support
of
it
and
how
we
get
these
things
hung
in
the
future
is
is
is
something
that
that
we
need
that
groups
need
to
work
on
and,
as
mentioned,
there
have
been
a
number
of
other
groups
that
we
have
approved:
banners
for
lafonda
centennial
being
one.
I
believe
the
guadalupe
district
business
district
was
another.
H
H
We
cannot
afford
as
a
city,
to
maintain
all
the
sidewalks
in
the
community
and
we
leave
that
up
to
the
property
owners
to
maintain
their
sidewalks,
and
that
is
actually
something
that
you
know
is
not
just
on
to
the
city
of
santa
fe.
But
you
know
is
a
practice
of
local
governments,
municipalities
across
the
country,
because
because
of
the
cost
in
doing
it,
so
I
guess
all
I
would
say
is
like
I'm
I'm
delighted
that
we
found
a
solution
for
this.
H
I
I
think
we
can
find
solutions
for
people
who
want
to
be
hanging
banners.
I
don't
think
we
need
to
be
taking
up
the
council's
time
in
doing
this
in
public,
because
I
I
think
there
are
ways
that
that
we
all
can
reach
out
to
our
community
and
and
get
help
with
these
things,
because
they
are
so
important,
so
kudos
to
pnm
and
counselor
lindell
for
solving
this
problem
and
really
excited
that
this
program
is
going
forward
again
and
that
these
banners
will
be
hung
for
another
another
year.
H
So-
and
I
get-
and
I
guess
in
terms
of
just
one
other
thought
about
you
know
the
first
year
we
did
this
was
because
it
was
the
first
year
of
the
banner
program
we
did
put
up
the
banners.
H
I
think
the
subsequent
years
were
maybe
a
little
bit
of
a
misunderstanding
that
there
was
an
ordinance
that
said
we
couldn't
paying
the
banners
any
and
that
we
did
it
sort
of
the
first
year
as
a
a
statement
of
goodwill,
but
that
we
wouldn't
be
able
to
go
forward
in
the
future,
and
then
I
think
you
know
it
didn't
that
that
law,
as
so
often
happens
what
the
law
was
didn't,
get
tran,
didn't
didn't,
get
communicated
down
the
line,
and
you
know
we
did
put
them
up
in
subsequent
years,
and
you
know
right
now,
our
we
do
have
a
law
that
says
we
can't
do
that.
H
I
do
think
we
have
real
reasons
why
we
are
limited
in
our
ability
to
do
that,
and
so
again,
I'm
just
delighted
that
we
found
a
solution.
So
thank
you
to
everybody
who
helped
do
that.
Thank
you,
mayor.
A
Thank
you,
councillor
cassette.
G
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
mayor.
I
will
be
very
brief.
I
I'm
also
very
delighted
to
hear
that
pnm
is
going
to
step
in
there.
Thank
you
councillor,
lindell,
for
for
reaching
out
and
for
that
news,
because
what
that
does
is
it?
It
buys
us
some
time
to
have
this
conversation,
as
an
actual
conversation
is
instead
of
a
hypothetical,
because
it
sounds
like
we're
moving
into
a
lot
of
hypotheticals
tonight.
G
G
U
G
Something
in
front
of
us
to
really
consider-
and
it
sounds
like
there's
individuals
who
are
interested
in
having
interested
in
having
this
conversation
and
some
more
thought
that
can
go
into
it,
so
that
that's
all
I
have
tonight.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
and
I
think
the
city
attorney's
head
was
nodding
that,
yes,
you
are
correct.
The
only
the
the
resolution
in
front
of
us
extends
the
reach
of
the
banners.
It
doesn't
address
the
ordinance
that
councillor
garcia
spoke
to
it
initially
about
the
limitation
on
city
expenditures,
counselor
garcia,
michael.
You
have
the
floor.
I
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
just
thank
you,
council
lindell,
for
that
update.
I
just
want
to
confirm
with
the
city
attorney
that
that
is
allowable,
because
when
I
was
having
discussions
with
mr
christie,
when
we
had
the
onset
of
this
project
and
we
started
running
into
the
challenge
of
not
having
the
city
support
the
installation.
I
My
thought
process
went
exactly
to
pnm
as
well
and
from
from
my
recollection
of
my
conversation
of
mis
with
mr
christie,
is
that
came
up
during
the
first.
I
think
it
was
first
or
second
year
and
the
city
attorney
had
told
I
think
it
was
counselor
b
hill
koppler
at
the
time
that
the
pnm
couldn't
touch
those
light
poles
they
didn't
they
they
couldn't
do
it.
They
didn't
have
the
authority
to
do
so.
M
May,
however,
counselor
garcia,
I
I
have
no
recollection
of
this
conversation.
I
called
jamie
aranda
earlier
today
to
find
out
if
she
knew
what
that
memory
was
about,
that.
I
heard
that
someone's
heard
from
someone
who
heard
and
she
was
not
aware
of
a
specific
conversation
with
me
either.
She
said
she
had
heard
that
someone
from
the
city
had
said
that
this
is
all
like.
This
is
very
much
removed
hearsay.
I
reviewed
any
written
documents.
I
had.
I
have
nothing
on
this
subject.
M
I
don't
know
why
they
wouldn't
be
able
to
my
understanding.
Is
they
get
obstruction
permits
regularly,
but
so
I'm
not
sure
why
we
would
prohibit
pnm
from
doing
something
like
this.
If
we
would
allow
a
private
contractor
to
do
so,.
I
I
Okay,
just
just
want
to
make
sure
that
that
that
that
holds
true.
I
Again
there
I,
I
was
a
little
disappointed
to
hear
somebody
say
that
taking
up
council
time
do
I
I
maybe
I
want
need
to
refresh
somebody's
memory
that
we
are
prohibited
from
having
a
rolling
quorum.
I've
chatted
with
a
couple
counselors
on
this
issue.
I
can't
talk
with
everybody
and
that's
why
we
unfortunately
have
to
have
sometimes
these
conversations
in
a
public
setting.
I
So
if
I
didn't
talk
with
you
about
it,
that
means
I
talked
to
enough
counselors
that
I
would
have
put
myself
in
the
position
where
I
would
have
violated
a
rolling
quorum.
I
I
think
these
are
the
issues
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
we're
as
a
council
as
a
governing
body,
we're
figuring
out
how
we
move
forward
together.
I
I
I'm
just
a
little
perplexed
that
you
know.
A
lot
of
the
information
that
I
was
told
during
the
beginning
of
this
process
seems
to
be
changing.
I
A
Thank
you
counselor
councillor,
lee
garcia,
you
have
the
floor.
B
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
just
wanted
to
again
express
my
100
support
for
this,
the
outreach
from
the
community
and
just
giving
due
respect
to
our
veterans,
those
who
served
those
who
died.
B
You
know
we
live
in
new
mexico,
where
many
many
many
families
have
have
gone
off
to
war.
Many
didn't
come
back
and
you
know
again
my
name
isn't
on
this
resolution
as
a
as
a
sponsor,
but
I
am
100
behind
it,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
relay
that
to
the
to
the
governing
body
and
to
the
public.
That's
listening.
U
A
Thank
you,
counselor
counselor,
michael
garcia.
Could
you
take
your
hand
down
for
me?
I
get.
I
appreciate
it.
Thank
you,
sir.
A
E
Thank
you
mayor,
so
first
I
want
to
say
that
I'm
wholeheartedly
in
support
of
the
banner
program.
It's
a
great
program.
E
Our
veterans
deserve
to
be
I'm
honored
in
such
a
way,
and
you
know
I
can't
tell
you
how
many
visitors
come
into
santa
fe
through
the
corridor
and
are
so
impressed
by
what
we're
doing
there
currently
between
airport
road
and
the
interstate.
So
I
get
many
compliments
about
it
during
the
summer,
especially
when
we
have
so
many
visitors,
so
I
do
support
it.
100
percent.
E
Thank
you,
counselor
lindell,
for
reaching
out
to
pnm,
I'm
glad
we
were
able
to
do
that
and
I
I
do
vow
to
sit
with
counselor,
michael
garcia
and
anyone
else
pnm
to
see
how
we
sustain
this
for
the
future.
E
Make
sure
that
we
find
a
way
to
to
get
this
done
on
a
yearly
basis
and
we're
not
here
every
year,
hoping
that
somebody
will
step
up
that
we
can
find
a
sustainable
way
to
do
it,
and
I
think
there
are
many
suggestions
that
have
been
brought
up
and
I
think
those
are
all
on
the
table
for
really
making
sure
that
this
program
lasts.
So,
thank
you
mayor
just
want
to
say
that
and
again
thank
you,
counselor
lindell.
Thank
you.
Councillor,
rivera
councillor,
rendell
your
hand
is
up.
F
I
just
want
to
say
very
briefly
that
there
was
never
anyone
on
this
council
that
didn't
support
this
program.
F
F
F
F
It's
just
sometimes
silliness
when
people
talk
about
that,
we
don't
support
our
veterans.
Of
course,
every
person
here
does
and
I'm
thrilled
that
we're
going
to
be
able
to
move
this
program
forward.
Thank
you,
mayor.
A
Thank
you
councillor,
lindell
councillor,
michael
garcia,
did
you
your
hand
didn't
go
back
up,
but
you
may
you
indicated
you
wanted
another
speaking
opportunity.
So
I'll
give
you
the
floor,
sir.
I
A
Madam
city
attorney:
is
there
any
prohibition
against
anybody,
whether
it's
pnm
or
somebody
else
who
has
the
the
requisite
permissions
to
hang
banners
as
long
as
it's
done
in
accordance
with
our
work
requirements?.
A
Questions,
mr
mayor,
thank
you,
sir.
I
I
just
want
to
say
that
it's
been
my
pleasure
to
speak
with
mr
christie
since
the
inception
of
this
program,
and
I
spoke
to
him
more
recently
when
we
were
taking
up
the
proposition
to
expand
the
number
and
the
locations
of
banners,
and
I
assured
him
of
two
things
number
one:
that
there
was
a
unanimous
support
for
the
resolution
to
expand
and
extend
the
banners
and
number
two
we'd
find
a
way
to
get
them
hung.
A
Because
I
know
in
this
community
there
are
the
resources.
There
are
the
partners,
there
are
all
kinds
of
private
sector
firms
and
non-profit
organizations
that
would
just
be
willing
to
come
to
the
call
as
soon
as
their
phone
rang-
and
I
salute
councillor
lindell
for
taking
the
initiative
to
say
what
what
does
it
take
to
get
the
banners
hung.
A
We
know
there's
a
way
what's
the
way
and
there's
probably
more
than
one
way,
but
she
was
able
to
find
a
very
quick,
efficient
and
rousingly
supportive
way,
and
it
does
this
all
a
great
deal
of
good
to
think
that
in
santa
fe
it's
not
just
city
elected
officials
who
are
coming
to
the
call
when
the
opportunity
comes
up
to
support
veterans,
but
it's
also
private
sector
firms,
I'm
sure
non-profits
would
rally
if
we
needed
additional
support.
A
I
think
this
is
a
program
that
would
rally
everybody
and
anybody
who
wanted
to
be
a
participant,
a
sponsor,
a
celebrant
of
the
program
and
where
there
is
a
will
there's
a
way
and
thank
you,
councillor,
lindell,
for
finding
the
way
and
now,
as
councillor
cass
said,
we
have
some
time.
We
can
do
that
consultation
that
council
council
rivera
volunteered
to
participate
in
so
that
we
can
stabilize
and
routinize
the
not
just
the
expansion,
but
also
the
mechanism
for
getting
the
banners
effectively
and
safely
hung
up.
So
it
is
a
win.
A
It's
a
it's,
a
successful
culmination
of
a
community-wide
effort
and
I
think
we
could
all
could
all
feel
good
about
it.
It's
a
nice,
a
nice
outcome
for
everybody,
other
comments
or
questions
this
time.
J
Yes,
I
can
councillor
marward,
yes,
councilman
vial,
yes,
counselor
casa,
yes,
no
sir
chavez,
yes,
counselor
lee
garcia,.
B
I
A
A
Thank
you
thanks
everybody,
madam
clerk,
can
you
take
us
to
the
next
item?
Please.
J
A
Thank
you.
I
will
entertain
a
motion
and
then
discussion
move
to
approve.
Is
there
a
second,
we
have
a
motion
to
approve
and
we
have
a
second.
We
could
either
have
jessie
speak
or
we
have
two
of
the
sponsors.
I
suspect
would
like
to
have
a
chance
to
describe
the
the
resolution
before
us.
Councilman
verrell.
Do
you
want
to
take
the
floor?
A
G
I'd
be
happy
to
take
the
floor
to
speak,
speak
to
this,
so
this
is
a
resolution
supporting
legislation
for
there
to
be
a
workforce,
a
task
force
to
look
at
paid
family
and
medical
leave
in
the
state
of
new
mexico.
G
This
is
a
topic
and
issue
that
I
feel
very
passionately
about
that
we
have
seen
across
the
board
has
has
incredible
impact
on
individuals
who
are
either
welcoming
a
new
family
member,
either
through
birth
or
through
an
adoption
into
their
household
as
well
as
it
also
includes
families
who
are
going
through
challenging
times
and
may
need
some
medical
leave.
We
frequently
talk
about
paid
family
leave
from
the
perspective
of
how
good
it
is
for
the
baby.
G
Somebody
who
recently
gave
birth
well
not
too
recently,
three
years
ago,
three
and
a
half
years
ago,
the
physical
toll
that
it
takes
on
an
individual's
body
is
sometimes
ignored,
and
I
think
that
really
looking
at
what
this
does
for
women
and
some
women
who
have
to
choose
between
both
leaving
their
newborn
as
well
as
returning
to
work
two
weeks
after
they
just
delivered
a
new
human
into
the
world.
To
me,
that's
that's.
G
Just
a
decision
that
no
individuals
should
have
to
make,
and
so
I
am
really
pleased
that
there
are
advocates
at
the
state
level.
Representative
cerrado
is
one
of
the
ones
leading
the
charge
here
and
she
is
part
of
the
santa
fe
delegation.
So
we
can
be
proud
there
to
really
look
at
how
we
can
support
families
in
new
mexico
and
make
sure
that
as
individuals.
G
Are
brought
into
the
world
that
they
are
able
to
be
in
a
family
that
is
able
to
be
best
supported
as
they
can,
as
well
as
looking
at
the
the
piece
of
equity,
where
there
are
a
lot
of
families
who
can
afford
to
take
the
time
off
and
making
sure
that
even
individuals
who
maybe
do
not
have
those
other
additional
resources
can
have
that
support.
So
that's
why
I'm
introducing
this
is,
I
want
to
publicly
say
our
support
for
the
state
looking
into
how
we
can
implement
this
program.
D
You
mayor,
I
wanted
councilwoman
kessa
to
go
first
and
she's
the
primary
sponsor,
and
I
will
just
add
that
this
is
the
kind
of
legislation
that's
long
overdue
in
our
not
just
state
but
country.
It's
pretty
sad
where
we're,
where
we
land
in
comparison
to
other
places
around
the
world
and
even
areas
or
even
countries
that
people
consider
third
world
are
better
in
this
area
than
we
are.
So
I
just
think
it's
an
important
step,
and
also
just
with
covet.
D
It's
laid
bare
for
the
need
to
have
more
for
the
need
to
have
medical
leave.
It's
just
really
exposed
that.
So
that's
why
I'm
supporting
this,
and
it
also
is
very
aligned
with
my
other
job,
around
gender
justice.
Thank
you.
A
A
Thank
you.
Could
you
take
us
to
the
next
item
please,
madam
clerk.
P
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
good
evening,
counselors
nice
to
talk
with
you
again.
I
have
a
sort
of
short
laundry
list
here,
some
things
just
to
make
sure
you're
up
to
date.
On
with
me,
since
we
last
met
a
good
portion
of
my
time
has
been
spent
working
with
director
ochoa
on
the
police,
search
that
we
have
begun.
As
you
know,
from
the
releases
we
put
out
the
communications
I've
given
to
you,
we
had
10
candidates
who
qualified
starting
next
week.
We
will
be
facilitating
dialogue
sessions
for
each
of
the
10
candidates.
P
Each
candidate
will
sit
on
two
dialogue
panels,
one
of
which
will
be
made
up
of
people
in
the
community
who
work
in
and
around
public
safety.
A
second
panel
as
well
will
be
around
community
partnership
and
a
diverse
group
of
leaders
from
across
the
community,
and
we
are,
I
believe,
director
ochoa,
has
finalized
or
is
close
to
finalizing
that
list
and
we'll
be
making
a
public
announcement,
thursday
or
friday
about
who
those
people
are
who's
participating.
P
When
that's
done,
we're
going
to
get
feedback
from
each
of
the
panelists
about
what
they
thought
of
each
of
the
candidates.
Director
ochoa
and
I
at
that
point
will
take
the
list
of
10
and
whittle
it
down
to
a
smaller
number
of
finalists.
We
don't
have
a
hard
preset
number
of
what
we're
looking
for
we're
going
to
wait
and
see
what
we
learned
from
the
candidates
through
these
sessions.
P
When
that's
done,
and
we've
identified
those
number
of
finalists,
we
will
bring
them
to
santa
fe.
Again
I
reach
out
to
all
of
you.
P
If
you
can,
let
me
know
if
you
have
any
conflicts
that
you
are
aware
of
the
week
of
february
28th
or
the
week
after
we're
working
to
land
these
so
that
they
don't
conflict
with
some
of
you
being
out
of
town,
but
we're
gonna
plan
to
have
an
opportunity
that
each
of
the
finalists
gets
to
meet
with
the
counselors
gets
to
meet
with
the
mayor
and
they'll
all
sit
down
in
a
more
formal
way
with
director
ochoa
and
myself,
and
then
I
will
make
the
decision
about
the
next
police
chief
at
the
very
very
latest.
P
It
will
be
the
end
of
we're
hoping
to
make
that
decision
before
then,
but
we're
grateful
for
your
participation
in
this.
As
you
know,
as
well
this
weekend,
I
forwarded
you
a
link
to
the
post
on
facebook
and
the
tweet,
the
city
put
out
encouraging
citizens
of
santa
fe
to
fill
out
our
community
survey
and
to
get
that
information
into
us.
We
find
that
information
be
very
valuable,
and
so
anything
you
can
do
to
share
that
with
your
own
networks.
P
Please
do
so
today,
clerk
bustos
was
able
to
get
mr
mahesh
was
able
to
get
the
community
survey
also
uploaded
into
a
pdf
form,
and
the
reason
that's
important
is
so
that
any
community
groups
that
are
out
there
can
download
it
take
it
to
their
membership.
It's
a
way
for
us.
We
think
to
reach
folks
in
our
community
who
may
not
have
spare
time
to
sit
on
a
computer
at
home.
P
P
We
have
started
working
to
try
to
find
a
resolution
to
the
fact
that
the
g
triple
c
that
the
pool
has
been
closing
some
afternoons
in
santa
fe
director
ochoa
myself,
director
mccoy
our
hr
director
salazar,
began
meeting
yesterday
to
look
at
both
some
immediate
things
that
we
can
do
to
try
to
get
additional
lifeguards
into
the
pool,
additional
supervision
to
the
pool
to
keep
it
open
and
then
to
look
at
how
down
the
road
we
can
ensure
that
we
have
a
sufficient
number
of
lifeguards,
particularly
in
light
of
the
fact
that
the
bicentennial
pool
will
also
be
open
in
the
near
future
and
we'll
need
more
lifeguards
there
as
well.
P
So
we're
working
on
that
for
you.
I
want
to
plug
two
events
or
two
two
items
for
you
for
your
calendar
is
coming
forward.
Notice
went
out
that
the
lafarge
library
is
reopening
on
february
17th.
We're
very
excited
about
that.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
you
knew
that
was
happening,
we're
going
to
try
to
plan
some
sort
of
a
small.
P
I
don't
know
if
we're
going
to
be
delivering
donuts
or
doing
an
event
or
something
fun,
but
we
want
to
really
commemorate
how
exciting
it
is
to
have
that
open
again,
that
was
my
go-to
library
as
a
kid
in
santa
fe.
So
I'm
excited
that
it's
reopening
the
second
event
that
is
really
frankly
in
the
beginning
stages
is
to
act
upon
something
that
you
all
passed
as
an
ordinance
or
a
resolution.
Rather,
I
think
a
year
ago
or
two
years
ago,
which,
in
the
first
monday
in
march,
is
to
commemorate
people.
P
P
I
have
about
the
event
right
now,
but
we'll
have
more
for
you
if
you
all,
can
put
a
hold
on
your
calendars
that
day
or
just
to
notice,
for
the
time
being,
we'll
get
you
more
information
as
soon
as
we
have
that
we
are
in
the
process
of
getting
me
teeth
up
so
that
going
forward,
we
can
start
announcing
anniversaries
employees
in
santa
fe
that
have
been
working
five
years,
10
years,
15
or
longer
and
really
doing
a
better
job
of
celebrating
them
here.
P
P
Another
thing
that
we
have
been
working
on
is
sort
of
an
example
of
a
couple
examples
of
things
we're
doing
to
try
to
improve
our
internal
operations,
one
of
which
is
our
hr
team
and
our
it
team
have
put
together
a
really
extraordinary,
coveted
reporting
system
internally
to
try
to
help
speed
up
the
process
and
take
some
of
the
burden
off
our
hr
staff
about
the
requirements.
We
have
around
reporting
when
staff
test
positive.
P
I
believe
you
know
that
there
are
requirements
coming
to
us
from
the
state
level
that,
within
a
certain
amount
of
time,
we
have
to
let
the
department
of
health
know
that
someone
is
tested
positive,
all
the
work
around
quarantining,
administrative
leave,
requests,
etc,
and
so
we're
really
excited
about
taking
this
step
forward
and
it's
also,
frankly,
easier
for
staff
to
use,
and
so
we
think
this
has
been
a
win-win
situation
there
as
well.
P
You
might
see
that
in
my
first
few
weeks
here
we
have
slowly
modernized
and
improved
the
way
that
we're
communicating
with
staff
on
the
days
that
we
have
snow
or
expectations
for
snow
in
the
near
future.
So
you
all
are
aware
by
the
time
when,
on
the
days
that
we
believe
there's
going
to
be
snow
by
4
30
in
the
morning,
I
am
getting
updates
from
our
police
crews,
our
fire
crews,
those
who've
been
out
overnight
information
from
our
streets
team
who
are
out
already
working
at
that
point.
P
Our
emergency
manager
and
the
goal
is
that
I
make
a
decision
before
five
in
the
morning,
whether
to
delay
or
close
as
need
be,
and
that
we
now
have
the
whole
team
ready
to
go
to
notifying
all
of
their.
You
be
there
a
number
of
different
ways
and
things
that
have
to
be
done,
that
director,
ochoa's
team
and
our
city
clerk
and
her
team
all
do
to
make
sure
people
know
before
they
get
in
their
cars
and
drive
in
a
way,
that's
not
safe.
P
P
P
Again,
I've
asked
for
help
from
you
all
we
sent
that
far
and
wide
and
through
a
variety
of
lesson,
applications
across
the
country
and
to
people
all
over
and
we've
already
got
some
applicants
we're
trying
to
just
you
know,
get
as
many
as
we
can.
So
if
you
have
anyone,
you
know
that
you
think
would
be
a
great
asset
to
our
operation
here.
Please
encourage
them
to
apply
the
deadline
for
that
is
tomorrow
and
then.
P
Finally,
mr
mayor,
if
I
may
take
a
moment
of
personal
privilege,
I
would
like
to
also
honor
javier
gonzalez.
As
a
little
gay
boy
growing
up
in
santa
fe
shopper
elementary
school
in
the
80s
we
didn't
have
javier
gonzalez
leading
the
city.
We
didn't
have
a
cycling
dell,
we
didn't
have
a
live
stepponics.
P
We
didn't
have
out
queer
people
who
were
setting
an
example
who
were
leading
with
dignity
and
grace,
and
I
can't
stress
enough
how
important
it
is
that
we
have
out
elected
officials
like
mayor
gonzalez
and
council,
willian
dell
and
senator
stephanix
and
their
being
in
these
roles
and
javier
being
in
this
role,
saved
lives
of
children,
and
that
is
not
an
overstatement.
That
is
a
fact
that
there
are
queer
youth
in
our
community
who,
when
they
see
leaders
like
javier
and
sig
and
senators
deponics,
stand
up
and
lead
that
changes
their
lives.
P
And
so
I
am
so
grateful
to
javier
for
his
friendship,
his
mentorship
his
leadership
and
for
really
genuinely
being
a
trailblazer
in
new
mexico
about
the
good
things
that
can
be
done
by
clear
elected
officials
with
that.
Mr
mayor,
thank
you
for
that
moment
and
I'm
happy
to
take
any
questions.
A
Thank
you,
mr
blair.
Madame
clerk
next
item.
M
You
mayor
counselors,
I
just
have
a
couple
announcements.
The
first
is
that
the
upper
manager
position
is
posted
and
will
be
posted
for
the
next
few
weeks.
So
if
you
know
any
good
candidates,
particularly
if
they
have
experience
in
that
area
from
other
government
jurisdictions,
please
send
them
my
way.
That's
a
very
important
position
to
oversee
our
production
of
over
six
thousand
effort
requests
per
year,
and
that's
the
new
position
that
this
council
approved
in
december.
So
I'm
very
excited
to
be
in
the
hiring
process
for
that
position.
M
So
that's
the
first
announcement.
The
second
second
amount
announcement
and
I
will
be
sending
this
decision
out
to
the
whole
governing
body,
so
you
can
read
it
at
your
leisure,
but
yesterday
this
government
body's
decision
on
the
zia
development
plan,
general
plan,
amendment
and
zoning
was
upheld
and
found
to
not
violate
due
process
rights
of
the
folks
who
had
probably
complained
against
the
city.
So
that's
good
news.
It's
a
very
good
opinion.
It's
helpful.
M
A
J
Again,
it's
been
a
very
emotional
evening.
I
won't
speak
to
many
words
that
I
would
like
to
say
tonight.
So
I'll,
just
move
on
other
than
the
gonzalez
family
is
absolutely
in
our
hearts
and
we're
sending
so
much
love
and
prayers
to
them.
But
I
will
also
note
on
a
more
professional
side
that
we
do
have
I've
extended
the
deadline
for
redistricting
applications,
I've
sent
emails.
J
We
are
working
actively
to
recruit
candidates,
but
these,
if
you
have
friends,
colleagues
constituents
in
district
three
district,
four,
if
you
know
statistician,
I
always
I
think
I
psych
myself
out
on
that
geographer
or
cartographer-
please
they
can
reach
out
to
me.
I
send
them
an
application
or
they
can
download
one
from
the
website,
and
I
also
just
want
to
say
thank
you
so
much
to
our
constituent
services
team.
J
I
really
want
to
know
that,
as
you
know,
we
gather
lots
of
data
and
really,
in
the
last
45
days,
we've
had
almost
600
crms
that
has
doubled
since
probably
the
last
time
I
reported,
and
these
numbers
just
continue
to
grow.
We've
seen,
I
think
in
2020
we
saw
60
growth.
I
haven't
run
new
stats
for
2021,
but
really
almost
645
days
puts
us
at
the
highest
amount
we've
ever
received
so
kudos
to
our
community
for
using
our
crm
system,
but
also
just
realizing
when
you
actually
see
those
numbers.
J
I
really
do
want
to
say
thank
you
to
daniel
diaz
and
savannah
sides
for
really
processing
all
of
those.
They
are
doing
an
amazing
job
trying
to
maintain
those
and
then
also
to
the
staff
that
we
rely
on
to
help
close
out
those
crms
or
park
staff
or
medians
crew,
really
our
streets
team.
It's
it's
really
phenomenal
when
you
think
about
the
hard
work
of
our
constituents
so
of
our
residents
on
behalf
of
our
kids,
our
staff
on
behalf
of
constituents.
J
I
am
very
emotional
this
evening
also,
so
I
apologize,
but
that's
all
I
have
tonight
mayor.
Thank
you
and
city
councillors.
If
you
have
any
questions,
please
let
me
know.
A
Thank
you,
madam
clerk
communications
from
the
governing
body,
we'll
just
go
around
and
I'll
call
you.
As
you
appear
on
my
screen.
Councilwoman
viral.
You
have
the
floor.
D
Thank
you
mayor.
Yes,
thank
you
to
the
constituent
services
team,
they're,
very
responsive
and
they
get
so
many
requests
and
just
people
inquiring
in
so
many
different
ways,
not
just
from
us.
So
I
appreciate
them,
and
I
also
wanted
to
give
a
shout
out
to
alejandro
alex
salazar
that
sets
up
our
zoom
and
does
so
many
other
things.
He
was
helping
me
with
some
computer
problems
late
friday
night.
It
was
like
way
past
work
hours
and
we
were
trying
to
troubleshoot
some
problems.
D
A
Thank
you,
councilwoman
council
rivera.
You
have
the
floor.
E
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
just
wanted.
I
had
it
on
my
notes
to
thank
daniel
diaz
for
being
so
responsive
every
time
we
call
for
isabella
sharp
anytime.
You
call
you
need
something
there,
they're
really
responsive
and
they're
great
at
providing
feedback
when
things
are
complete.
So
I
really
appreciate
that
about
the
both
of
them
and
then
wanted
to
thank
manuel
gonzalez
and
ej
duran.
E
I
went
and
took
a
tour
of
the
I.t
facility,
they've
moved
to
midtown
to
mouton
hall
and
they're
doing
a
fantastic
job
over
there
they've
they
were
so
hungry
for
space
and
to
be
all
together
and
they're.
Finally,
there
and
you
walk
in
and-
and
you
can
tell
that
it's
a
different
atmosphere
so
wanted
to
thank
them
for
for
the
tour
and
for
allowing
me
prior
to
overstay
my
welcome
and
I'm
glad
that
they
were
able
to
do
that
and
took
the
time
to
do
that.
So
thank
you
to
them.
H
Thank
you
mayor.
I
don't
think
I
really
have
anything
tonight
and
like
everybody,
I
think
we
just
had
a
day.
So
thanks.
B
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
just
want
to
once
again
thanks
mike
thank
my
colleagues
for
all
the
assistance
and
help
that
you
have
offered
throughout
our
first
my
first
month
here
as
a
new
counselor.
Thank
you
sig
for
letting
me
into
city
hall
yesterday,
after
our
photo
shoot,
it
was
a
nice
conversation
we
had
and
for
offering
your
hospitality
with
the
sole
dreams
that
are
there
anyway,
all
city
staff
and
everyone
else.
I
do
appreciate
all
the
help
that
they've
offered.
I
thank
you
very
much.
A
Thank
you,
counselor
council,
mike
michael
garcia,
you
have
the
floor.
I
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
guess
just
want
to
pass
along
some
some
words
that
a
constituent
had
sent
in
thanking
the
permitting
office.
I
know
so
many
times,
especially
now.
We've
got
lots
of
not
not
so
happy
comments
about
the
permanent
office
and
timing
and
whatnot,
but
this
is
actually
a
good
good
email
that
we
got
in
thanking
them.
So
I
just
want
to
give
a
shout
out
to
rich
trujillo,
nick
ruiz,
jane
rodriguez
and
caleb
mente
for
providing
such
exceptional
service
to
the
constituents
and
continue
the
great
work.
A
Thank
you
councillor,
councillor
lindell,
you
have
the
floor.
F
Thank
you
mayor.
I
I
want
to
give
a
particular
shout
out
to
the
road,
the
folks
that
plowed
the
roads
and
the
parks,
people
that
did
the
shoveling.
F
It
was
clear,
they've
done
a
magnificent
job,
it
was
the
best
I
ever
saw
it,
and
you
know
I
had
enough
stress
that
day
and
they
took
some
stress
off
from
me
very,
very
much
appreciated.
Then
coming
back
home,
I
saw
the
guys
from
parks
out
shoveling
sidewalks
and
they
just
did
a
terrific
job.
I'm
really
grateful
to
you
and
you
take
a
lot
of
stress
off
from
people
doing
that
great
a
job.
F
A
Thank
you,
counselor
councillor
cassette,
you
have
the
phone.
G
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
mayor.
I
I
don't
really
have
much
today,
but
I'm
curious
council
rivera
when
you
went
to
go
tour
itt,
were
they
playing
replays
of
city
council
meetings
or
was
that
just
for
me
when
I
showed
up
there
that
day.
G
Okay,
I
went
there
one
day
after
a
particularly
late
and
challenging
meeting
that
we
had
and
it
was.
It
was
on
a
replay
so
good
to
know
that
it's
not
just
always
council
meetings
on
loop
for
them.
I'm
sure
you
know,
maybe
committees
are
a
little
bit
more
entertaining.
G
I
don't
really
have
very
much
today,
as,
as
everyone
said,
there's
it's
it's
been
a
day
as
to
quote
council
romero
worth
so.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
councillor,
councillor
chavez
you
have
before.
C
Our
city
team
is
amazing.
I
was
so
excited.
I
think
I
acted
as
if
daniel
diaz
was
a
celebrity
when
I
met
him
face
to
face
yesterday
I
was
like
it's
you
and
he
was
I'm
like
you're,
so
responsive
you're,
amazing.
C
You
know,
I
think
it's
been
really
exciting
lately
when
I've
had
conversations
with
constituents
and
I'm
able
to
involve
the
city
team-
and
I
see
you
know,
solutions
come
into
play
and
I'm
able
to
deliver
good
news
to
constituents
because
of
our
amazing
city
team.
It's
really
amazing
work
and
it's
all
because
of
them.
So
you
know,
like
I
say
I
like
to
take
this
opportunity
to
express
gratitude.
I'm
very
very
grateful
to
be
part
of
this
team.
A
It
is
a
evening
of
great
emotions
and
I
think
we
should
all
take
a
minute
and
both
celebrate
the
lives
of
the
individuals
we
spoke
about
earlier
and
also
send
our
love
and
thoughts
to
their
families
and
recognize
how
important
gratitude
is
to
councillor
chavez's
point
in
everyone
has
spoken
tonight
so
well
of
people
who
deserve
our
thanks:
the
crews
taking
care
of
the
snow,
the
senior
services
team,
delivering
more
than
600
meals
on
both
of
those
snow
days,
just
exceptional
work
cities
around
new
mexico
were
brought
to
a
standstill
because
of
those
two
snow
events
and
not
santa
fe.
A
Our
teams
were
up
and
early
and
and
really
doing,
exceptional
work,
and
it's
it's
partly
because
of
people
like
sev,
gurule
and
mayor
gonzalez
that
we
get
to
celebrate
the
teams
that
are
here
now,
because
this
kind
of
work
has
been
going
on
for
a
long
time
and
continues
because
people
care
about
santa
fe
and
love
santa
fe.
It's
not
just
a
job,
it's
a
commitment
to
the
community,
and
so.
A
We're
really
we're
the
beneficiaries
of
some
great
people
doing
great
work
and
we're
very
grateful
for
all
of
that.
So
thank
you
all
for
the
words
in
a
very
emotional
evening.
I
appreciate
them.
J
Yes,
mayor
you're,
correct
item
17a:
this
is
public
comment
on
bills.
This
is
a
new
section
of
our
agenda
under
the
new
governing
body,
procedural
rules
so
very
exciting.
Our
first
public
comment
on
bills.
This
is
consideration
of
a
bill.
Mayor
weber
is
the
sponsor
for
this.
It's
an
ordinance
granting
nts
communications,
llc,
dba,
vexus,
fiber,
a
non-exclusive
franchise
to
operate
a
telecommunications
network
within
the
city
of
santa
fe,
the
right
to
use
city
public
right-of-ways
to
provide
telecommunications
service
within
the
city
and
fixing
the
terms
and
conditions
thereof.
A
And,
according
to
our
new
procedural
rules,
this
is
the
first
time
we've
done
this
there's
no
discussion.
This
is
not
a
comment
among
the
governing
body
members.
It's
not
a
staff
presentation,
it's
more
an
opportunity
for
anybody
who
is
in
the
attendee
room
who
wants
to
have
a
chance
before
we
move
this
through
the
legislative
process.
Madam
city
attorney,
you
want
to
correct
what
I
just
said.
M
Mayor
wherever
counselors,
there
is
an
opportunity
for
a
staff
presentation
of
up
to
five
minutes
to
just
alert
the
public.
What
the
subject
matter
is
to
give
them
a
bit
of
understanding,
but
I
think
the
main
goal
is
to
allow
the
public
to
give
feedback
on
the
front
end
of
the
process
before
the
bills
go
to
committee.
A
So,
mr
elise,
do
you
want
to
give
us
a
quick
within
five
minute
overview
as
to
what
this
item
is,
so
that,
although
the
council
won't
be
considering
it,
the
public
will
know
what
it
is.
That
they're
being
asked
to
comment
on
when
we
take
those
comments
from
the
attendee
room.
V
Thank
you,
mayor
webber
councillors,
terry
lees,
I'm
asset
development
manager,
texas
fiber,
wants
to
bring
a
100
fiber
optic
broadband
network
to
santa
fe.
Fiber
optic,
as
you
may
or
may
not
know,
is,
is
internet
lines
that
transfer
data
using
light
instead
of
electricity.
They
provide
for
both
residential
and
business
customers
and
operate
in
35
cities
across
texas
and
southern
louisiana.
V
Their
fiber
to
the
premises
will
be
a
10
gigabyte
network
to
accommodate
future
growth
with
packages
that
start
begin
at
one
and
two
gigabytes.
Total
investment
in
the
santa
fe
area
is
estimated
to
be
35
million
dollars.
Employment
will
include
about
50
construction,
jobs
and
35
to
40
permanent
full-time
jobs
in
santa
fe,
if
improved
by
the
governing
body.
Vexus
hopes
to
begin
construction
by
april
of
2022
and
connect
nearly
all
homes
and
businesses
in
about
24
to
36
months
and
without
all
yeah.
A
Thank
you,
sir,
for
the
framing
of
this,
madam
clerk.
If
there's
anyone
in
the
attendee
room
who
wishes
to
comment
on
this
now
as
we
move
the
bill
forward,
this
is
our
new
public
comment
opportunity
we'll
accord
anyone
who
wants
to
speak
two
minutes
to
comment
on
this
proposed
bill.
J
Awesome
we
do
have
two
individuals,
so
william
bruno.
Y
I
my
understanding
is
that
this
proposal
already
went
through
committees
in
the
last
couple
weeks.
I
don't
know
if
that's
accurate
and
and
that
the
actual
contract
that
we're
talking
about
gives
the
company
rights
to
put
wireless
antennas
everywhere
in
the
city
right
away.
Y
So
I
think
there'd
be
a
lot
of
support.
I
certainly
support
more
fiber.
U
Y
But
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
concern
about
the
wireless
I
think
you
guys
probably
saw
in
the
new
mexican
on
saturday
there
was
a
big
article
about
the
environmental
danger
of
microwave
radiation
on
mostly
on
animals,
but
also
well
people
too,
but
and
so
if
we're
just
told
that
this
is
a
hundred
percent
fiber.
A
Thank
you
for
your
comment.
Who's
next,
madame
clerk.
X
Yeah,
thank
you
very
much,
stephanie
benonato.
X
My
concern
is
that
I
believe
a
few
years
ago
you
gave
comcast
a
similar
approval
to
put
fiber
optics
in
or,
and
they
were
supposed
to
do
it
in
right-of-ways
and
that
they
were
supposed
to
be
limited
to
streets
that
were
50
feet
wide
or
more,
and
I've
asked
miss
romero
earth
to
look
into
that
because
they
put
the
fiber
optics
on
alleys,
which
are
not
right-of-ways.
Actually,
the
way
the
code
defines
them
right.
Alleys
are
public
property,
but
they
are
not
part
of
the
right-of-way.
Right-Of-Way
is
actually
a
street.
X
It
goes
from
the
outside
of
the
sidewalk
down
through
whatever
public
property.
There
is
to
the
curb
and
gutter
across
the
vehicular
part
of
the
street,
and
then
back
up
and
over
to
the
other
side
of
the
sidewalk.
We
now
have
five.
We
now
have
a
comcast
cables
in
an
alley.
That's
10
feet
wide
they're
on
a
pole.
That's
they're
not
even
30
feet
up
from
the
ground,
and
it
looks
like
there's
like
antennas
on
them.
X
X
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Is
there
anyone
else
in
the
comment
the
attendee
room,
who
wants
to
comment
on
this
bill.
A
Very
good:
well,
this
is
our
first
use
of
this
new
procedure
and
I
think
it's
an
opportunity
to
practice
commenting
on
these,
madam
city
attorney.
M
Here,
wherever
counselors,
I
did
just
want
to
clarify
this.
One
was
introduced
prior
to
our
new
procedural
rules,
and
that's
why
it
had
been
scheduled.
I
think,
for
some
committees
prior
to
first
comment,
so
this
one
kind
of
fell
in
the
middle
of
bills
that
were
addressed
before
the
procedural
roles
were
adopted
and
those
that
are
introduced
after
so
we're
trying
to
adhere
to
our
new
roles
as
much
as
possible.
With
this
new
legislation
it
subject
to
the
fact
it
was
already
introduced,
so
we
didn't
have
complete
control
over
that.
A
J
Mayor
the
next
item
we're
moving
into
section
18.
This
is
final
action
on
legislation.
This
also
this
public
hearing
section.
This
is
first
item,
is
item
18a.
It
is
consideration
of
a
bill
number
2022-3.
This
is
adoption
of
an
ordinance
sponsored
by
council
romero
worth
and
councillor
cassette.
It's
an
ordinance
amending
section,
2-1.13
sfcc
1987,
to
establish
that
the
mayor
pro
templar
shall
serve
on
one
city,
council
standing
committee,
which
shall
be
the
finance
committee
and
jesse
gam.
Our
legislative
liaison
is
available
for
this
item.
A
Thank
you.
So
this
is
a
public
hearing
as
well
as
the
ones
that
we'll
be
following.
Let's
begin
with
a
brief
presentation
and
then
we'll
go
to
public
comment
and
then
come
back
for
motion
and
questions
from
members
of
the
governing
body.
A
Jesse,
I
don't
know
whether
you
are
the
person
to
lead
us
in
the
overview
or
one
of
its
sponsors,
whether
it's
councilor
mayor
worth
or
councillor
cassette,
but
for
people
who
are
listening
or
watching
who
are
not
familiar
with
what
the
background
on
this
proposal
is.
It
would
be
good,
I
think,
to
have
a
introductory
remark
or
two.
H
So
this
ordinance
change
came
as
a
result
of
the
work
that
we
were
doing
around
our
procedural
rules
that
we
recently
adopted,
and
we
couldn't
make
this
change
through
the
procedural
rules
needed
to
be
made
in
our
laws
in
our
ordinance,
and
it
fixes
a
problem
that
we
experienced
in
the
last
number
of
years.
Where,
because
of
the
number
of
counselors
we
have
and
the
number
of
committees.
So
we
have
eight
counselors
and
three
committees.
H
If
you
have
five
counselors
per
the
three
committees,
you'll
always
have
one
counselor,
who
only
serves
on
one
committee
and
generally
counselors
serve
on
two
committees.
So
I
think
it
caused
some
hard
feelings
when
there
was
one
counselor
who
served
only
on
one
committee-
and
this
is
an
effort
to
correct
that
problem.
H
If
the
mayor
needs
to
leave
town-
or
you
know,
is
otherwise
not
available
to
be
mayor,
and
so
they
are
they.
They
are
in
a
pretty
knowledgeable
place,
and
then,
if
we
say
that
the
one
committee
that
the
mayor
pro
tem
sits
on
is
finance,
that
also
is
a
pretty
important
committee
where
most
things
go
through.
H
So
you
know
that
counselor,
the
mayor
pro
tem,
having
sitting
there,
will
touch
most
things
and
won't
feel
like
they're,
isolated
or
ostracized,
and
it's
just
this
ordinance
change
is
a
way
to
deal
with
the
structural
issue
we
have
of
having
eight
counselors
and
three
committees
and
it
being
just
a
product
of
math
that
there
will
always
be
one
counselor
who
can
only
sit
on
one
committee,
and
so
this
was
just
a
way
to
sort
of
institutionalize
who
that
counselor
would
be
so
as
we
don't,
so
that
we
don't
create
hard
feelings
and
we
don't
isolate
a
counselor
and
counselor
cassette
who
has
worked
with
me
on
the
procedural
rules
with
the
staff
may
have
something
to
add,
and
jesse
gehan
and
the
city
attorney
have
also
noodled
on
this
a
bunch,
and
so
certainly
if
they
have
things
that
I
missed,
or
a
different
way
of
framing
this
happy
to
have
them
jump
in.
A
Thank
you
counselor
councillor
cassette.
Do
you
want
to
add
to
what
was
just
offered
up
as
an
explanation?
No.
G
I
believe
council
romeroworth
covered
it
quite
thoroughly,
both
the
impact,
as
well
as
the
logic
that
went
behind,
why
we
are
making
this
recommendation
for
this
change.
A
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Come
back
to
the
governing
body.
Is
there
a
motion
and
then
we
can
discuss
the
motion.
A
There's
a
motion
to
approve
and
there's
a
second
I'd,
entertain
any
comments
councilwoman
via
real.
You
have
the
floor.
Thank.
A
A
Thank
you,
councillor,
lee
garcia,
you
have
the
form.
B
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
just
have
a
clarification
question
if,
for
some
reason,
the
mayor
pro
tempore
would
want
to
not
be
on
the
finance
committee,
could
they
opt
to
be
on
quality
of
life
or
the
other,
so
it
would
only
be
finance.
A
According
to
madam
city
attorney,
it's
pretty
much
a
legal
question
there
counselor
garcia,
is
asking
if
there's
a
way
to
it,
to
opt
to
a
different
committee
rather
than
finance.
M
C
I
I
E
A
A
Thank
you.
Can
you
take
us
to
18b,
please.
J
Yes,
item:
18b
is
consideration
of
bill
number
2022-4.
This
is
an
ordinance
sponsored
by
council
rivera.
It's
an
ordinance
amending,
exhibit
b
of
section
21-7
to
increase
residential
and
commercial
rates
for
services
provided
by
the
environmental
services
division
and
charlene
sitting
our
environmental
services
division.
Director
is
available
for
this
item.
A
Z
Thank
you,
mayor
weber,
city
council.
Yes,
this
is
esd's,
first
rate
increase
proposal
in
six
years.
Z
We
are
we're,
bringing
this
package
of
rates
to
you
based
on
a
cost
of
service
study,
and
these
rates
are
based
on
our
actual
costs,
with
some
projected
growth
and
inflation
factored
in
some
of
the
largest
factors
that
do
affect
esd's
rates,
of
course,
are
the
purchase
and
maintenance
of
vehicles,
and
we
have
a
large
fleet
and
that's
where
fleet
based
service
we
also
have
to
meet.
Z
Some
significant
rate
increases
that
the
santa
fe
solid
waste
management
agency
is
charging
to
us
and
will
be
continuing
to
increase
those
rates
over
the
next
few
years.
So
the
rates
from
the
agency
are
going
from
about
two
and
a
half
million
in
2021
to
about
4.7
million
over
the
next
few
years,
and
and
these
rates
are
the
costs
of
landfilling
recycling
and
otherwise
handling
special
waste
for
all
of
the
the
city
of
santa
fe.
Z
So
that's
very
important
and
then
in
general.
Obviously,
the
cost
of
goods
and
services
have
increased
over
the
last
six
years
and
especially
over
the
last
two.
Many
many
costs
have
really
skyrocketed,
so
just
in
conclusion,
this
rate
increase
is
really
it's
critical
for
esd
to
continue
to
safely
deliver
collection
services
for
our
residential
and
commercial
customers.
Thank.
J
A
Thank
you,
that's
very
concise,
I'm
sure
there'll
be
questions,
but
you
covered
the
basics
very
quickly
and
effectively.
Thank
you,
madam
clerk.
Are
there
people
in
the
attendee
room
who
would
like
to
speak
to
the
proposal
in
front
of
us
now
would
be
the
time
for
them
to
raise
their
hands
and
we'll
give
them
two
minutes
to
address
the
governing
body.
X
Good
evening,
I'm
happy
for
the
explanation
of
why
the
rates
are
are
being
asked
to
be
increased.
X
I
think
that
we
do
pay
quite
a
bit
in
water,
garbage
and
sewer
fees,
and
they
seem
to
always
keep
going
up
and
I'm
disappointed
that
we
don't
do
glass
collection
at
curb
anymore,
and
I
do
wish
that
that
some
of
the
drivers
would
be
a
little
bit
more
conscious
that
they
are
actually
knocking
over
other
garbage
cans
or
leaving
trash
on
the
street
because
they
didn't
get
quite
all
of
it
into
the
truck.
A
A
C
A
D
Thank
you
mayor
and
thank
you
director,
sitton,
for
presenting
this
to
us.
We
asked
most
of
our
questions
during
committee
and
I
just
want
to
reiterate
some
things
you
had
broken
down
about
the
reason
why
this
rate
change
is
necessary.
The
other
thing
I
think
you
might
have
mentioned-
maybe
you
didn't,
but
the
other
cost
that
is
associated
with
this
is
also
the
need
for
a
new
maintenance
facility.
Can
you
elaborate
on
that
a
little
bit
more
with
the
public.
Z
Sure,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
mayor
weber,
councillor
villarreal,
the
public
may
not
be
aware,
but
we
we
have
a
about
45
large
vehicles
and
a
total
of
of
70
when
you
include
our
admin
vehicles
in
our
fleet,
but
we
we
don't
have
adequate
maintenance
facilities.
We
we
have
a
maintenance
shop
that
has
one
bay
that
a
large
truck
one
large
truck
can
fit
in.
Z
Z
So
we
in
order
to
do
our
own
basic
maintenance,
then
of
most
of
it,
has
to
be
done
outside,
and
this
is
this:
just
isn't
the
proper
way
to
to
maintain
a
large
fleet.
So,
just
just
before
the
pandemic
started,
we
we
had
started
down
the
road
of
planning,
a
new
maintenance
facility
to
bring
to
city
council
for
approval.
Z
We
we
had
some
tours
out
there
and
I
think
the
people
who've
been
here
for
a
while
have
seen
our
our
one
base
shop
and
understand
what
our
constraints
are.
Z
I
do
want
to
stress
that
we
have
many
many
third-party
maintenance
contracts,
and
so
we
do
business
with
many
mechanics
around
town
and
in
albuquerque
with
our,
especially
with
our
the
people
who
are
official
mechanics
for
certain
truck
manufacturers,
so
those
we
we
are
doing
the
best
we
can,
but
we
we
could
do
a
lot
better.
If
we
had
a
larger
shop,
we
would
be
able
to
really
address.
Z
You
know
basic
basic
repairs
and
preventative
maintenance
in
a
better
fashion,
and
so
we
will
be
we
we
did
before.
In
2019
we
had
a
a
preliminary
look
at
what
a
shop
might
cost
and
we
did
bring
that
in
june
of
this
year,
when,
with
the
public
utilities
update
happen,
and
so
we
mentioned
that
that
we
were
going
to
be
putting
that
into
our
cost
of
service.
Z
I
do
want
to
say
those
aren't
going
to
be
the
final
cost
for
this
shop,
but
we
did
include
a
portion,
in
our
rate,
to
start
building
up
funds
to
to
pay
back
a
bond
to
build
the
shop
and
very
soon
in
the
next
few
months,
we'll
be
we'll
be
bringing
information
about
a
proposal
for
a
new
shop
to
the
governing
body.
Thank
you.
D
Did
you
all
consider
using
any
surplus
funds
or
reserves
in
the
department
that
could
have
been
used
to
cover
the
increases
for
the
first
few
years,
instead
of
rolling
it
out
during
a
time
that
you
know
it's
been
challenging
for
families
to
kind
of
make
ends
meet
because
of
covid?
So
I
was
just
curious
if
you
had
looked
at
those
other
possibilities.
Z
To
fund
this
increase,
thank
you
for
the
question
counselor.
We
already
are
so
we're
we're
in
we're
already
under
recovering
and
have
been
for
some
time
so
we're
already
using
reserves,
and
so
the
rate
increase
is
critical
so
that
we
don't
hit
a
critical
low
point.
We
have
to
by
law,
have
a
90-day
operating
reserve
and
we
also
have
to
have
some
reserves,
a
certain
amount
of
reserves
in
place
for
maintaining
our
the
closed
landfill,
paseo
de
vista.
So
we're
we're
already
doing
that.
Z
We've
been
under
recovering
for
some
time
and
and
so
it's
it's
actually
really
critical-
that
we
go
ahead
and
raise
the
rates
now.
D
Thank
you
and
then
the
other
question
I
think
we
brought
up
in.
I
think
finance
was
making
sure
that
there's
support
for
people
that
aren't
able
to
pay
for
various
reasons
or
payment
plans,
and
that's
still
in
place-
is
that
correct.
Z
Yes,
thank
you
so
much
for
that
question.
Mayor
councillor,
the
public
utilities
department
does
have
contingencies
in
place
that
any
anyone
who's
having
trouble
paying
their
bills
can
access
through
the
through
the
billing
department.
Through
the
public
utilities,
we
have
an
faq
posted.
Z
D
Taking
the
time
and
actually
hiring
a
consultant
to
be
able
to
look
at
the
possibilities
and
what
this
would
mean
and
doing
it
a
thorough
analysis,
because
it
was
helpful
making
the
decision
with
the
information
that
you
all
provided
for
us.
So
thank
you.
No
further
questions.
A
Thank
you
director
said.
While
we
have,
you
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
the
technology.
That's
on
our
trucks.
At
the
moment
that
gives
us
smart
trucks
to
do
the
work
of
collecting
the
city's
solid
waste.
There's
a
lot
of
technology.
People
don't
even
know
that
you've
been
able
to
implement
and
sin.
It's
not
related
directly
to
the
rates,
but
it
is
related
to
efficiency
and
modernization
of
our
of
our
esd.
Z
Yeah,
thank
you.
Thank
you
so
much
for
acknowledging
that
and
asking
about
that
mayor
weber.
We
we
have
a
technology
partner.
The
name
of
the
company
is
rubicon.
What
it
does
is
it
provides
it's
a
cloud-based
service.
We
have
there's
actually
smartphones
that
are
picked
up
every
day
by
our
drivers
and
they're
only
for
the
rubicon
they're
not
for
making
calls
or
anything
like
that.
So
the
all
of
the
routes
are
pre-programmed
and
numbered
all
of
the
drivers.
Z
Have
they
they
log
in
and
they
pick
the
route
they're
doing
for
the
day
and
they
they
have
the
ability
to
have
turn-by-turn
directions
on
the
route.
The
gps
follows
them.
Real-Time
and
there's
certain
technology
built
into
the
app
on
the
phone
that
sort
of
measures,
speed
and
actually
vibration
of
the
truck,
and
it
marks
when
each
house,
along
the
the
way,
is
collected
back
in
the
office.
The
customer
service
people,
the
supervisors.
Any
of
us
can
log
on
to
the
to
the
rubicon
system.
Z
Z
If
there
are
exceptions,
that's
the
word
we
use
say:
carts
are
too
close
together
or
carts
are
blocked
by
a
parked
car
or
there's
construction.
Material
sticking
out
of
a
recycling
cart
things
that
are
not
accepted.
Any
exceptions
like
that
a
driver
can
quickly
take
a
picture
and
it's
time
stamped
and
location
stamped
to
that
account
and
if,
if,
if
a
resident
were
to
get
home
from
work
and
and
see
that
their
cart
wasn't
collected
and
give
us
a
call,
we
can
actually
look
on
there
and
say
yeah
that
you
know.
Z
I'm
sorry,
you
had
things
in
your
cart
that
we
didn't
accept.
Here's
a
picture
of
your
cart.
Remove
those
from
your
item.
Remove
those
items
from
your
cart
and
we'll
collect
it
next
week.
So
it's
reduced
a
lot
of
go
backs
and
that's
just
what
we
call
when,
when
people
call
and
say
their
cart
wasn't
collected
for
some
reason
now
we
have
a
record
of
why
that's
been
reduced
a
lot.
Z
If
a
driver
does
have
to
drive
an
unfamiliar
route,
then
they
have
turn-by-turn
directions,
there's
all
kinds
of
efficiencies
that
that
has
afforded
us
and
and
through
our
contract
with
rubicon
and
all
of
the
data
they've
been
collecting
over
the
past
three
years.
Z
They
are
working
on
a
route
optimization
for
us,
so
we
we
will
be
finalizing
a
route
optimization
which
will
reduce
trips
to
the
landfill
and
make
our
routes
as
efficient
as
possible,
so
that
we're
saving
time
and
we're
saving
fuel
and
reducing
our
carbon
footprint
and
all
of
those
good
things.
Those
are
just
some
of
the
things
about
rubicon.
A
I
think
it's
important
to
note
that
you
know
when
people
think
about
what
you
do
and
what
the
service
that
your
team
provides.
You're
really
constantly
looking
for
data
technology,
information
based
service
upgrades-
and
it's
not
just
quite
as
simple
as
people
getting
in
a
truck
and
driving
around
and
collecting
from
those
bins.
So
I
appreciate
your
spelling
some
of
that
out.
A
I
I
often
think
that
the
story
behind
the
story,
the
what
it
takes
to
do,
what
you
do
and
what
your
team
does
doesn't
fully
get
appreciated,
and
so,
while
it's
not
directly
related
to
what
we're
talking
about
tonight
with
the
rates,
it
really
does
revolve
around
efficiency,
effectiveness,
customer
service
and
the
fact
that
all
parts
of
city
government
now
are
technology
driven.
So
thank
you,
councilor
lee
garcia.
You
have
the
floor.
B
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
just
have
a
comment
mostly
on
this,
and
I
I
know
with
the
current
situation
of
cost
of
living,
compiling
additional
costs
for
trash
additional
costs
for
water.
Just
once
you
get
that
bill.
B
I
mean
it's
difficult
and
I
do
understand
where
we
are
in
terms
of
where
we,
where
we
land
for
fees.
You
know
comparison
to
other
cities
jurisdictions
around
us
that
are
similar
to
ours,
and
so
I
was
not
aware
of
how
much
of
this
impact
was
going
to
be
going
towards.
B
J
Yes,
counselor
chavez,
yes,
counselor
lee
garcia,.
B
A
J
Yes,
19a
and
mayor,
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
read
the
item
and
then
the
two
actions
for
them
so
that
we
can
then
focus
on
presentations.
This
is
case
number
2021-4375.
J
It
is
for
the
2868
rufina
street
general
plan,
amendment
jennifer
jenkins
of
jenkins
gavin
is
the
agent
for
homewise,
incorporated
the
applicant
you're,
requesting
approval
of
a
general
plan.
Future
land
use
map
amendment
to
change
the
future
land
use
classification
from
industrial
to
community
commercial.
J
The
property
is
approximately
2.39
acres
of
land
and
is
located
at
2868
rufina
street
donna.
Weinen
is
our
case
manager
for
this
and
then,
if
you
will
allow
me
I'll,
go
ahead
and
read
the
two
action
items
which
is
one
is
consideration
of
a
resolution.
It's
a
resolution
amending
the
general
plan.
Future
land
use
map,
designation
from
industrial
to
community
commercial
for
approximately
2.39
acres
of
land
located
at
2868
rufina
street.
Again
this
is
the
2868
ruffina
general
plan.
Amendment
case
number
2021-4.
A
A
M
Mayor
webber,
yes,
if
pat
begali
could
be
included-
and
I
think
dan
esquivel
yep
there-
he
is
okay,
awesome.
A
Well-
and
you
might
want
to
bring
in
some
of
the
other
folks
who
are
awaiting
their
turn,
who
will
be
party
to
this.
A
So,
while
we're
bringing
people
into
the
room,
this
is
a
public
hearing
land
use
case.
I
go
over
the
the
process
start
as
we've
done
before,
with
a
disclosure
of
any
pre-hearing
communications
regarding
that
may
lead
to
a
recusal.
A
If
there
is
a
someone
who
feels
as
though
pre-hearing
communications
have
rendered
your
judgment
no
longer
fair
and
impartial,
then
we
will
get
a
staff
report
for
up
to
10
minutes,
we'll
allow
the
applicant
or
the
applicant's
representative
to
present
the
public
comment
period,
questions
of
the
staff
by
the
governing
body
or
of
witnesses
or
of
the
public.
A
Then,
once
we've
closed,
that
public
hearing
part
we'll
move
to
the
governing
body,
making
motions
debating
the
motions
and
voting
madam
city
attorney,
your
light
is
still
lit.
Was
there
something
else
you
wanted
to
bring
to
our
attention?
Nope
counselor,
mayor,
worth
your
hand,
is
up.
You
have
the
floor.
Thank.
A
Madam
city
attorney,
are
we
doing
something
on
you?
That
is
not
the
same
as
our
usual
legislative
selves.
In
this
time,.
M
Mayor
river
councillors,
yes
and
I'm
gonna,
I'm
gonna,
let
pat
begali
take
a
take
a
swing
at
this.
This
time.
AA
Mr
mary
council
members,
this
is
a
quasi-judicial
proceeding,
so
in
this
case
the
governing
body
is
acting
as
judges.
You
be
applying
the
current
law
to
the
facts
presented
either
in
the
record
or
tonight
at
this
meeting
and
not
setting
policy
at
this
particular
point.
So
you
are
applying
the
current
law
to
what
is
presented
before
you.
AA
A
So,
if
anyone
having
gotten
that
clarification
about
it,
what
it
means
to
be
quasi-judicial,
that's
why
the
issue
of
disclosure
of
pre-hearing
communications
is
relevant.
If
anyone
wishes
to
speak
to
any
pre-hearing
communications,
now
would
be
the
time
to
do
that,
seeing
no
hands
up.
Let
me
turn
then,
to
mr
esquibel
for
the
staff
report.
Let
me
ask
everybody
who
is
not
speaking
to
please
put
your
microphone
on
mute
while
we're,
while
the
the
floor
is
given
to
mr
esquivel.
AB
Mayor
webber,
if,
if
I
may
good
evening
and
good
evening
city
council,
I
just
wanted
to
note
that
dan
esquivel
will
be
presenting
tonight.
This
was
donna
weinert's
case.
She
announced
her
retirement
a
couple
days
ago,
and
so
we
just
we're
letting
her
focus
on
you
know,
closing
out,
etc.
So
dan
will
be
running
with
this
case.
AB
That's
I
think,
that's
it.
Thank
you.
A
Okay,
thanks
for
the
clarification
jason,
I
didn't
mean
to
cut
you
off.
Thank
you
so
with
that
being
said,
mr
esquibel,
you
have
the
floor.
Thank
you,
america.
Can
everybody
hear
me?
Okay,.
U
Yes,
sir,
I'd
like
to
figure
indulgence,
I
will
I
do
have
a
brief
presentation,
but
in
that
presentation
I
will
be
making
some
minor
adjustments
and
some
clarifications.
U
So
since
our
city
clerk
already
read
the
thing
I
do
have
to.
U
Bring
note
to
the
fact
that
on
the
agenda,
where
it
says
future
development
of
mixed
use,
development
plan,
including
12
236
and
68
dwelling
units-
that
is,
that
is
not
on
the
table
tonight,
that
is
for
a
future
application
for
a
development
plan.
U
There
are
some
sample
motions
in
the
report
and
that
is
to
move
to
approve
the
request
to
amend
the
general
plan,
feature
land
use,
classification
from
industrial
to
community
commercial
for
approximately
2.39
acres
of
land
located
at
2868
rafinha
street,
and
we
will
be
bringing
in
the
findings
of
facts
at
a
future
date
so
and
to
direct
staff
to
draft
proposed
findings
of
fact
and
conclusions
of
law
reflecting
the
governing
body's
decision
or
move
to
deny
the
request
to
amend
the
general
plan,
future
land
use
classification
and
to
direct
staff
to
draft
proposed
findings
of
facts
and
conclusions
of
law
reflecting
the
governing
body's
decision.
U
U
To
move
to
approve
the
requested
rezoning
of
approximately
2.39
acres
of
land
from
I-1
light
industrial
to
c2
general
commercial,
at
2868,
rafina
street,
and
to
direct
staff
to
draft
proposed
findings
of
facts
and
conclusions
of
law,
reflecting
the
government
body's
decision
or
to
deny
the
request
to
rezone
approximately
2.39
acres
of
land,
from
I-1
like
industrial
to
c2
general
commercial,
at
2868
rafeena
street,
and
to
direct
staff
to
draft
the
proposed
findings
of
action.
U
Conclusions
of
law
reflecting
government's
body's
decision
and
again
this
is
a
general
plan
amendment
and
a
rezoning,
and
what
that
is
going
to
do
is
take
the
property
located
just
north
of
syria's
road
and
north
east
of
silo
road
from
a
general
plan
of
industrial
or
future
land
use,
map
of
industrial
and
the
zoning
of
i1,
which
is
light
industrial
to
community
commercial
and
c2,
which
is
general
commercial.
U
What
would
I
also
like
to
add
is
the
applica.
The
application
does
meet
a
couple
themes
within
the
general
plan,
which
was
not
included,
which
is
the
affordable
housing
which
is
active,
participate
in
the
creation
of
affordable
housing
in
two
urban
form,
promote
a
compact
urban
form
and
encourage
sensitive,
compatible
infill
development.
U
There
are
a
couple
guiding
policies
that
we
can
include,
which
is
3g2.
There
shall
be
a
mix
of
uses
and
housing
types
in
all
parts
of
the
city
and
3g
3.
There
shall
be
infield
development
at
densities
that
support
the
construction
of
affordable
housing
and
a
designated
mix
of
land
uses
that
provide
an
adequate
balance
of
services,
retail
employment
opportunities
to
address
residential
growth
throughout
the
urban
area,
including
the
rail
yard
property.
U
A
Thank
you
we'll
get
to
the
questions
a
bit
a
little
bit
later,
but
thank
you
for
laying
the
groundwork.
It's
much
appreciated.
We
turn
now
to
the
applicant
or
the
applicant's
representative,
ms
jenkins,
you
have
the
floor
for
up
to
15
minutes.
J
One
second,
sorry,
all
right,
please
state
your
name,
and
you
can
actually
just
state
your
city
and
zip
code
that
you
reside
up.
J
N
You
thank
you.
Thank
you
again,
mayor
and
counselors.
I'm
jennifer
jenkins
with
jenkins
gavin
here
this
evening
on
behalf
of
homewise,
in
request
for
the
general
plan,
amendment
and
rezone
application
that
dan
just
walked
you
through,
I
do
have
a
fairly
brief
presentation,
so,
if
I
may,
I
would
like
to
go
ahead
and
share
my
screen.
N
So
again,
this
is
the
property
at
2868
ruffina
street,
and
this
is
a
request
for
a
general
plan.
Amendment
and
rezone
of
the
subject.
Property
homewise
is
the
owner
of
the
property.
N
This
property
is
actually
right
next
door
to
their
offices
here
in
town
that
are
off
of
siler
road
and
I'm
not
sure
if
mike
lofton
is
with
us
this
evening,
but
obviously
mike
lofton,
the
executive
director,
daniel
slavin,
the
director
of
real
estate
development
is
with
us
this
evening
and
available
to
answer
any
questions
also
working
closely
with
jamie
jaramillo,
homewise's
planning
manager,
jenkins
gavin,
are
the
planning,
consultants
and
engineering
services
provided
by
mike
gomez
in
santa
fe
engineering
and
our
new
city
staff
person,
as
of
today,
is
dan
esquivel.
N
So
here
is
the
subject:
property
it's
about
two,
just
under
2.4
acres,
so
this
is
ruffina
and
this
is
clark-
and
this
is
rios-
and
this
is
seiler
and
as
I
mentioned,
these
are
home.
Wises,
basically
there's
their
headquarters
here
in
santa
fe,
and
this
is
the
property
that
is
directly
directly
adjacent.
So
it
has
frontage
and
access
from
ruffina
and
frontage
as
well
on
clark
road,
and
you
know
this
neighborhood.
You
know
this
whole
area
in
this
sort
of
seiler
ruffina
area
has
really
evolved
a
lot
in
recent
years.
N
Obviously
the
cyler
yard
project
has
been
a
huge
part
of
that
and
we've
seen
more
housing
develop
in
this
area.
We've
seen
more
mix
of
uses,
and
it's
really
quite
dynamic.
I
mean
this
is
really
where,
where
our
makers
are
in
this
in
this
neighborhood,
and
so
we're
really
excited
about
the
opportunities
that
this
project
is
going
to
present
as
far
as
as
really
you
know,
participating
in
the
evolution
of
of
this
community
here
in
this
part
of
town.
N
So
as
dan
mentioned,
this
is
the
future
land
use
map.
So
the
property
is
currently
designated
industrial
in
the
general
plan
and
the
property
is
zoned,
i1
or
industrial
one
as
well,
and
you
can
see
the
surrounding
area.
Of
course,
we
have
a
lot
of
industrial
zoning
along
the
siler
corridor
up
here
in
the
corner.
That
is
the
seiler
yard
project
which
is
zoned
c2.
N
N
So
let's
get
rid
of
this
so
as
we
so
we
prepared
a
conceptual
fight
plan
just
so
we
could
share
with
city
staff,
as
well
as
with
the
planning,
commission
and
the
governing
body.
What
our
vision
and
intent
is
for
the
property,
as
dan
said,
we're
we're
not
approving
or
requesting
approval
of
a
development
plan
this
evening,
but
we
feel
like
it's
really
important
when
we're
asking
for
a
reason
that
that
the
city
understand
what
we're
trying
to
achieve
with
that
request.
N
So
again,
existing
zoning
is,
I
won
we're
requesting
a
rezone
to
c2
in
order
to
support
the
development
of
a
mixed-use
project,
so
we
are
envisioning
a
combination
of
commercial
and
residential
construction
and
which
really
aligns
well
with
this
neighborhood
and
community
here
and
how
it
has
evolved
over.
You
know
over
recent
years,
and
so
we
are
looking
at
a
combination
of
three
buildings,
one
mixed-use
building
and
then
two
buildings.
N
That
would
be
a
hundred
percent
residential
and
we
are
looking
at
for
sale,
residential
products
here
and
and
then,
of
course,
commercial
space
that
will
likely
be
rented,
but
there
is
also
the
opportunity
that
some
of
the
commercial
space
could
also
be
be
sold
to
commercial
users
as
well.
N
N
We
did
conduct
a
traffic
study
that
was
reviewed
quite
thoroughly.
I
will
say
by
by
the
city's
traffic
engineering
consultants
and
and
everything
works
and
there
you
might
have
seen
some
of
that.
Some
of
that
commentary
in
the
staff
report.
But
there
are
there,
are
no
issues
and
we
are
moving
forward
with
a
positive
recommendation
relative
to
the
traffic.
So
I
just
wanted
to
point
that
out.
So
we
have
our
two
access
points
here
and
this.
These
are
our
three
buildings.
So
building
one
is
the
mixed
use
building.
N
Looking
at
potentially
offices,
maybe
a
cafe
studio
space,
really
a
dynamic
mix
really
supporting
our
local
small
businesses
is
really
the
vision
here
and
then
two
stories
of
residential
above
and
then
we
have
a
two-story
residential
building
here
and
then
a
three-story
residential
building
here,
and
so
the
parking
we're
really
trying
to
kind
of
decentralize
the
parking.
So
we
have
kind
of
a
primary
parking
area
here
that
we
would
really
see
this
as
primarily
serving
the
commercial
users,
and
then
we
also
have
parking
along
the
driveway
some
parallel
spaces.
N
Here
we
have
an
emergency
turn
around
area,
and
then
we
have
another
access
here
on
clark
and
one
of
the
I
don't
know
if
you've
driven
down
clark
road
recently,
but
to
say
it
is
somewhat
substandard
in
terms
of
its
level
of
improvement,
would
be
an
understatement.
N
So
we
really
have
an
opportunity
to
to
make
some
significant
improvements
to
clark
road
and
we're
proposing
a
row
of
on-street
public
parking.
We
really
like
that
urban
fabric
of
you
know
having
those
parking
spaces.
You
know
directly
in
front
of
these
commercial
businesses
here
or
a
visitor
who
wants
to
just
park
on
the
street
and
go
visit
a
friend
who
lives
in
building
number
two,
and
so
we
literally
are
going
to
be
rebuilding
this,
this
segment
of
clark,
road
and
creating
an
opportunity.
N
There
are
no
currently
no
sidewalks,
so
we're
gonna
be
adding
sidewalks
along
clark
and
along
our
frontage
along
ruffina,
which
is
really
important
to
supporting.
You
know
that
pedestrian
environment
in
this
neighborhood,
as
well
as
providing
additional
supply
of
of
on-street
public
parking
and
then
really
central
and
core
to
to
the
design
and
the
vision
here,
is
the
sort
of
central,
open
space
courtyard
area
that
can
be
used
by
residents,
but
also
could
be
programmed
for
different
types
of
events
or
something
of
that
nature.
N
So
this
really
shows
the
work
that
we're
planning
to
do
with
respect
to
clark
road.
You
can
see
the
on-street
parking
and
if
you
look
closely
underneath
the
gray
that
is
identifying
the
road,
the
edge
of
clark,
road
right
now
is
like
right
there
and
you
can
see
that
it
doesn't
align
very
well
with
the
northern
extent
of
clark
road
on
the
other
side
of
ruffina.
N
So
we
actually
have
an
opportunity
to
to
really
ameliorate
that
kind
of
odd
geometry
here
by
by
aligning
this
much
more
closely
to
the
center
line
of
the
road
on
the
other
side
of
the
street
and
then
also
sidewalk
and
additional.
You
know
roadway
improvements
along
along
ruffina.
N
So
what
is
really
exciting
about
this
is
that
after
we
started
moving
forward
with
this
project,
we
learned
about
something
that
we
didn't
know
about,
and
this
was
the
city
of
santa
fe
economic
development
department's
initiative
around
really
branding
the
what
they
have
come
to
call
the
cyler
ruffina
nexus,
and
this
is
about
attracting
investment
into
this
into
this
part
of
town
as
a
priority
development
area.
N
This
is
a
federally
designated
opportunity
zone,
so
the
economic
development
department
saw
said
you
know,
hey,
we
need
to
you,
know,
really
showcase
this
as
an
opportunity
zone
and
those
tax
benefits
that
are
available
for
new
development
as
well
as
redevelopment,
but
also
aligning
with
how
that
this
area
has
evolved
over
time.
So
really
the
the
opportunities
that
were
identified
as
part
of
the
part
of
this
plan
was
mixed-use
development,
incorporating
you
know,
dining
coffee
and
those
types
of
you
know
really.
N
Neighborhood
serving
and
community
gathering
place,
types
of
type
of
uses,
green
space
and,
of
course,
affordable
and
middle
market
housing
and
the
department
further
identified
optimal
zoning
categories
to
support
this
initiative
would
be
c2,
c1
and
mu
zoning,
and
so
this
shows
the
blue
shows
the
the
federally
designated
opportunity
zone
and
what
they
have
come
to
identify
as
the
cylinder
ruffina
nexus.
So
again,
this
is
a.
N
This
is
a
great
opportunity
to
really
realize
those
those
lofty
goals
for
this
really
special
part
of
town
and
in
addition
to
that
they
were
the
cellular.
N
Raffina
nexus
program
was
selected
by
the
state
of
new
mexico
main
street
program
for
design
and
promotional
assistance,
and
really
creating
that
brand
and
attracting
that
the
investment
that
that
they're
seeking
to
promote,
and
so
our
vision
for
for
this
little
site
is
you
know,
an
urban
mix
of
four
cell
housing
options
use
utilizing
that
internal
courtyard,
as
kind
of
a
kind
of
the
heart
of
the
space
and
mixing
with
with
commercial
space
for
our
local
small
businesses,
I'm
a
healthy
mix
of
market
rate
and
affordable
for
sale,
homes
and
again
local
businesses
that
really
respond
to
the
needs
of
of
the
nexus
area
and
and
really
capitalizing.
N
On
the
momentum
of
the
area
that
you
know,
the
cylor
yard
project
has
really
has
really
kicked
off,
and
so
you
know,
as
homewise,
pursues
their
various
development
projects
here
in
our
community.
You
know
a
participatory
planning
approach
is
really
key
to
everything
that
they
do,
and
so
they
have
really
reached
out
to
the
surrounding
neighborhood
and
talked
to
a
lot
of
stakeholders
and
identified.
What
are
some
of
the
unmet
needs
in
this
in
this
neighborhood
and
what
they?
What
they're
hearing?
N
Obviously
is
the
affordability
component
is
key:
affordable,
live
workspace,
micro,
retail
and
work
spaces,
so
small
spaces
that
can
almost
serve
to
incubate
small
business,
food,
retail,
maybe
a
small
grocer,
small
restaurants,
bike
repair
and
then
again
open
spaces,
because
there's
not
a
lot
of
not
a
lot
of
green
space
in
this
part
of
town.
So
it's
important
that
that
that
be
incorporated
and
so
over
the
next.
You
know
few
months
as
we
pivot
into
a
development
plan,
preparation
to
really
drill
down
on
the
design.
N
They
plan
to
really
continue
and
expand.
This
effort
to
really
get
to
know
the
neighborhood
and
get
to
know
the
needs
and,
of
course,
homewise
always
had
already
has
a
significant
presence
there
with
their
headquarters.
N
But
they
really
want
something
that
really
aligns
with
the
feel
and
the
character
of
the
neighborhood
and
something
that
is
really
going
to
serve
serve
the
greater
purpose
and
the
greater
good
and
oh
and
with
respect
to
affordable
housing.
Obviously,
we
there
will
be
a
minimum
of
a
20,
affordable
housing
requirement
in
accordance
with
the
santa
fe
homes
program,
but
obviously
home
wise
always
works
to
achieve
a
greater
level
of
affordability.
N
So,
typically
on
a
project
like
this
we're,
probably
looking
at
somewhere
closer
to
a
40
or
50
percent
affordability
program,
and
when
we
go
back
to
planning
commission
with
the
development
plan,
we'll
have
that
you
know
obviously
we'll
have
that
nailed
down.
So
that
completes
my
presentation
and
I'd
be
happy
to
stand
for
any
questions.
A
Thank
you,
I
think
we'll
take
questions
after
we
go
to
the
sworn
public
comment.
A
X
J
J
X
So
I
guess
my
concern
is
that
the.
L
X
X
You
have
68
units,
and
then
you
have
12
over
12
000
square
feet
of
retail
space.
Even
from
looking
at
the
draft
or
beginning
plans,
there's
only
a
very,
very,
very
little
bit
of
green
space.
There
there's
lots
of
parking
and
there's
a
lot
of
built
environments,
and
although
some
people
can
make
it
as
a
micro
business
micro
businesses
are
hard
because
you
don't
have
enough
of
a
customer
base
to
actually
support
your
growth.
Often
so
just
thinking
everything's
going
to
be.
J
J
A
Thank
you.
Are
there,
others
in
the
attendee
room
who
wish
to
be
heard
as
part
of
the
public
hearing.
A
Before
we
go
to
questions
from
the
governing
body
for
either
staff
for
the
applicant
or
the
the
one
sworn
witness,
can
I
ask
ms
fagali:
can
you
give
us?
We
went
in
depth
on
a
potential
development
plan,
but
we
don't
have
a
development
plan
in
front
of
us
tonight.
Am
I
correct?
The
item
in
front
of
us
tonight
does
not
include
any
of
the
issues
regarding
the
the
conceptual
proposal
that
we
saw.
That's
not
the
issue
before
us.
We're
talking
about
a
zone
change.
AA
Mayor
weber,
counselors,
that
is
correct.
I
believe
that's
what
mr
esquivel
was
going
to
say
as
well.
This
is
just
for
the
general
plan
and
rezoning
the
change,
the
general
plan
and
the
rezoning.
This
is
that
information
would
be
relevant
for
development
plan,
which
I
assume
will
come
in
the
future,
but
that
is
not
what's
before
you
today.
It's
just
the
rezoning
and
general
plan
change.
A
Thank
you,
mr
esquivel.
I
didn't
mean
to
cut
you
off.
I
do
your
hand
was
up.
Do
you
want
to
speak
to
making
sure
we
know
what
we
are
or
are
not
voting
on
tonight,
because
I
do
think
the
the
the
proposal,
while
very
interesting,
is
really
not
the
subject
of
tonight's
hearing,
unless
I'm
mistaken.
A
U
Mayor
members
of
the
gun
body
that
was
right,
this
is
only
a
general
plan
of
rezoning.
What
was
presented
to
you
was
for
a
possible
future
application,
which
will
be
reviewed
thoroughly
when
the
application
comes
in,
which
will
include
our
traffic
division.
Our
traffic
consultant
to
take
a
look
at
the
information
along
with
water
sewer,
terrain
management,
the
entire
development
team,
which
is
made
up
by
all
most
of
the
city
departments.
U
So
all
of
that
will
be
looked
at.
We
will
probably
coordinate
with
our
economic
development
team
so
that
we
understand
how
that
fits
into
the
the
zone,
but
all
of
that
will
be
looked
at
in
in
in
detail
when
it
comes
in.
Thank
you.
A
So,
while
all
of
the
presentation
about
what
could
be,
there
was
quite
interesting-
it's
not
particularly
germane
to
what
we're
asked
to
approve
or
not
approve
tonight.
A
With
that
try
to
try
to
clarify
the
scope
of
the
questions.
Can
we
see
a
show
of
hands
of
any
members
of
the
governing
body
who
have
questions
for
staff,
the
applicant
or
ms
beninato
councilwoman
viral,
followed
by
councillor
cassid.
D
Thank
you
mayor
just
a
couple
of
things
just
to
get
clarity.
One
was
just
curious
in
the
past
I
thought
the
homewise
was
actually
gonna,
expand
their
facilities
and
they
were
gonna
use
this
property
that
they
had
purchased
a
while
ago.
Was
that
ever
an
intention-
and
I
don't
know
if
we
have
folks
from
home,
wise
or.
A
Miss
jenkins,
I
think
mr
slavin
is
here
he
could
be
sworn
to
answer-
that.
N
I'm
happy
to
address
that
if
that's
okay,
thank
you
mayor
councillor
via
real
and
counselors.
So,
yes,
that
was
the
original
purpose.
When
they
acquired
the
property
was
it
was
going
to
be
an
additional
kind
of
office
building
annex,
but
they
ended
up
being
able
to
add
on
to
their
existing
building,
so
they
they
did
an
addition
there,
and
then
this
site
just
has
been
has
remained
empty
and
then
they
decided
that
it
was
time
to
move
forward
and
figure
out.
N
D
Got
it
thank
you
and
I'm
glad
to
see
this
parcel
is
having
improvements.
It's
been
problematic
in
different
ways.
We
did
a
clean
up
there.
What
is
it
last
year?
Gosh?
I
don't
even
remember
when
we
did
that
cleanup,
but
it
was
pretty
bad
in
that
area.
Enough
of
clark
road,
so
I'm
happy
to
see
that
there'll
be
some
activity
in
terms
of
people
living
and
working
there.
I'm
curious
about
the
opportunity
zone,
that's
a
new
concept
and
it's
interesting
to
see
it
how
it
will
be
utilized
in
this
way.
D
N
You
know
I
am
by
no
means
if
I'm
a
mayor
and
council
via
rail,
an
expert
on
opportunity
zones,
but
the,
but
the
the
taxpayer
home
wise,
depending
on
their
final
development
program,
may
not
even
be
eligible
for
the
the
federal
tax
incentives
and
the
opportunities
were.
N
The
opportunity
zones
were
established
on
certain
census
tracts
in
order
to
encourage
investment
in
in
areas
that
experienced
under
have
experienced
under
investment
in
divestment,
and
so
there
is,
it
requires
kind
of
a
10-year
hold
and
it
is
focused
more
on
rental
product
and
so
homewise
is
in
the
business
of
homeownership.
N
D
Thank
you
in
my
experience
with
the
opportunity
zones,
it
doesn't
necessarily
help
tenants
or
keeping
things
affordable
in
terms
of
commercial
or
residential,
so
I
haven't
seen
how
it
benefits,
not
just
investors,
but
people
that
actually
will
be
there
so
it'll
be
remain.
That
will
remain
to
be
seen.
I
haven't
seen
it
function
yet
in
in
in
our
area,
so
I
think
the
other
thing
so
we're
not
going
to
see
any
of
this
again.
N
The
development
plan
will
be
we'll
go
back
to
planning
commission.
D
U
D
On
any
development
plan
or
just
ones,
that
re
require
a
redevelopment
like
with
this
well
a
re-zoning
and
redevelopment
plan.
How
does
that
work?
I'm
just
I
just
thought.
We'd
see
it
again,
because
this
was
a
rezoning.
U
Normally,
the
development
plans
will
stop
at
the
planning
commission,
but
if
there
were
a
reason
for
the
pla,
the
governing
body
to
want
to
see
it
and
reevaluate
it,
it
is
written
within
chapter
14
that
you
do
have
that
ability
to
pull
that
development
plan
up
for
review.
U
If
you
give
me
a
second,
I
will
read
it
up
and
come
back
to
you.
It'll.
Take
me
just
a
couple
seconds
to
get
through
it.
It
has
been
done
in
the
past
a
couple
times
actually.
D
If
I
remember,
I'm
just
curious
how
that
how
that
works,
if
you
can
find
out
more
details,
the
other
questions
I
had,
they
were
more
about
making
sure
home
wise
has
things
about
certain
things
as
they
go
through
the
development
plan,
approval
phase
and
since
we're
not
going
to
see
it,
I
can't
ask
questions
apparently,
but
I
just
want
them
to
be
cognizant
of
issues
that
we've
had
with
when
we,
if
they
were
going
to
prevent
these
units
from
becoming
short-term
rentals,
we've
had
we've
been
able
to
as
a
governing
body,
create
conditions
of
approval
so
that
conduized
properties
do
not.
D
They
are
not
able
to
have
a
short-term
rental
ability.
So
I
don't
know
if
that
that
question
could
be
answered.
That
was
something
I
was
concerned
about.
That,
I
think,
is
important,
also
just
what
I
brought
up
in
the
last
project
that
homewise
has
done
and
just
making
sure
that
they're
clear
about
when
they
create
the
hoa
that
the
units
that
are
affordable,
that
the
owners
know
and
are
clear
about
their
fees
and
what's
required
of
them
and
subsidized,
and
for
how
long?
D
And
just
in
this
area,
as
the
only
really
affordable
industrial
area
of
our
city,
that
I'd
like
to
see
us
try
to
figure
out
how,
when
we
do
these
projects
that
we're
making
sure
that
the
commercial
areas
are
affordable
too,
because
this
is
actually
the
only
one
of
the
few
places
that
have
affordable
commercial
leases
in
our
city
and
I'd
hate.
For
that
to
go
away.
D
If,
when,
if
and
when
homeway
starts
talking
to
the
surrounding
businesses,
they
will
realize
that
that's
probably
one
of
the
important
pieces
and
why
we
have
it
that
area
industrial.
So
if
it's
changing
to
commercial
and
it's
being
now
that
this
request
for
a
commercial
or
the
rezoning
to
c2
that
that
we
think
about
that,
especially
with
the
work
that
homewise
does
to
try
to
keep
affordability
in
in
residential.
But
it
also
applies
to
commercial.
D
U
Yes,
mayor,
it's
under
142.2
governing
body
number
c
or
letter
c
if,
within
30
days
of
any
final
order,
determination
by
the
planning
commission,
the
governing
body
decides
to
review
any
such
order
or
determination
notice.
The
such
proposed
review
shall
be
provided
in
a
manner
prescribed
in
section
431h
and
such
notice
shall
be
a
stay
of
execution
of
such
final
order
of
determination.
D
D
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Counselor
cassette,
you
have
the
form.
G
G
I
actually
I
want
to
talk
a
little
bit
piggybacking
a
little
bit
off
of
what
councilwoman
vaderial
said
about
this
sailor,
roofina
nexus
and
the
consideration
of
a
general
plan,
amendment
and
rezone
at
this
point,
given
the
focus
on
this
area,
I
like
this
project.
I
let
this
you
know
concept.
G
I
know
that
we
don't
have
a
fully
developed
project,
but
I
think
that
this
is
something
that's
really
needed
in
the
area
I've
been
speaking
for
a
while
about
the
ruffina
corridor
and
kind
of
what
I
see
as
a
dual
opportunity,
as
well
as
fear
of
continually
spot
rezoning.
G
So
director
klux.
This
might
be
a
question
for
you,
but
I
really
am
curious
about
how
this
concept
of
the
silo
rufina
nexus
is
integrating
into
how
we're
looking
at
general
plan
amendments
and
how
we're
looking
at
the
future
land
use
map
for
this
area,
and,
if
we're
looking
at
it
right
now
or
if
this
is
something
that
we
we
really
need
to
be
aware
of
in
the
future.
AB
G
Really
important
as
well,
I
mean
there's
also
this
main
street
program,
which
I
know
that
I've
we've
heard
little
snippets
of.
I
believe,
but
it
really,
my
understanding
is
it's.
How
do
we
revitalize
some
of
these
areas
to
make
them
more
pedestrian
friendly,
more
of
a
destination
and
projects
like
this?
Oh
here
he
is
hi
rich
thanks
for
popping
on,
but
projects
like
this
seem
to
also
be
really
integrated
with
these
concepts,
and
so
so
again
just
understanding
how
this
is
fitting
into
the
broader
picture.
G
The
the
bigger
picture
of
this
area
and
really
how
we
plan
and
make
this
some
place
making
within
the
ruffina
corridor
is
something
that
I've
been
really
concerned
about.
Rich.
Do
you
need
me
to
repeat
my
question
about.
A
Mr
brown,
did
you
hear
the
original
question
about
opportunity
zones
and
how
this
rezoning
might
participate
in
redevelopment
of
this
or
develop
responding
to
the
nexus
that
we
heard
about
earlier
sure.
AC
AC
We
are
competing
nationwide
for
investment
in
opportunity
zones
which
have
high
unemployment
and
high
poverty,
and
so
we
looked
at
santa
fe
as
a
place
where,
with
the
deficit
of
housing,
that
we
could
look
at
these
areas
and
say
just
to
this
idea
around
this
housing
development
that
we
could
look
at
the
area
and
say
how
can
we
shape
some
of
the
zoning
to
fit
into
particularly
housing
development
in
the
opportunity
zone?
AC
It
brings
money
into
the
neighborhood,
it
brings
money
into
the
city
and
also
that
we
are
also
addressing
our
housing
needs.
So
there
are
five
zones
midtown's
one
of
them.
The
seller
nexus
is
another,
and
this
is
our
marketing
name
for
the
area,
but
we've
actually
leveraged
it
now,
because
we're
now
doing
a
main
street
program
on
top
of
it.
So
that's
why
the
opportunity
zones
the
connection's
there.
So
it
is
a
part
of
what
the
general
plan
is
about,
as
it
relates
to
growth.
AC
G
Okay,
thank
you.
I
appreciate
that.
G
G
I
think
that
how
we
look
at
some
of
these,
I
hate
to
use
the
word
opportunity
because
it's
been
used
so
much
now,
but
how
we
look
at
some
of
these
opportunities
in
this
area
to
address
specifically,
as
you
said,
you
know
we
we
have
this
need
for
housing,
and
I
just
really
see
the
ruffina
corridor
in
this
area
as
such,
an
opportunity
for
revitalization-
and
I
this
project
excites
me
and
also
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
not
piecemealing
this.
G
I
think
that
having
a
very
proactive
approach
to
this
area
is
is
going
to
be
crucial,
and
this
is
a
good
start,
so
I
will
yield
the
floor.
Thank
you.
A
U
Counselor
cassette
just
to
one
of
the
points
you
made,
as
I
explained
in
some
enns,
when
I
get
a
lot
of
questions,
you
know
when
staff
looks
at
an
application,
whether
it
be
a
rezoning,
a
general
plan
amendment
or
a
development
plan.
U
The
waves
are
going
to
oscillate
outward
as
it
goes
to
the
banks
of
that
pond,
which
in
this
case
would
be
the
city,
and
we
will
then
also
move
up
and
look
at
those
waves,
utilizing
all
of
the
departments
that
we
have
so
that
we
can
ensure
that
everything
is
being
looked
at
in
accordance
with
the
general
plan
and
the
policies
of
the
general
plan.
Certainly
something
like
the
silo
road
isn't
being
master
planned,
but
we
do
take
into
consideration
all
of
the
areas
as
we
look
at
changes
that
are
going
on.
U
A
Thank
you,
sir.
Mr
councillor,
lee
garcia.
B
Thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
just
have
a
question
about
the
c2
zoning
in
this
case,
and
I
guess
it
would
go
to
mr
esquivel
in
in
the
case
said
so
you
know
I
do
thank
miss
jenkins
for
showing
the
proposal
of
a
possible
development
plan
there
and
in
the
future.
What
would
be
the
the
possibility
of
what
what
could
go
on
that
property
and
that
would
be
allowable
under
under
the
rules
and
not
end
up
back
at
governing
body
or
the
planning
commission?
U
Mr
mayor
councillor,
garcia
members
of
the
governing
body,
the
the
c2
district
is
a
community
or
a
general
commercial
district,
so
it
it
has.
A
variety
of
uses
that
are
allowed
residential
is
not
typically
a
use
that
is
allowed
in
and
of
itself
without
a
development
plan.
So
it
does
have
to
be
looked
at
with
the
development
plan
in
mind.
Unlike
the
business
capital
district,
which
is
a
community
commercial
which
allows
single-family
dwelling.
U
B
B
How
does
it
work
and
obviously
we
want
the
best
opportunity
to
to
grow
and
we
want
assets
for
our
city
and
we
want
opportunities
for
our
people
to
live
work
and
then
sometimes
play,
and
so
you
know
from
that
standpoint,
I
I
want
to
go
back
to
changing
the
zoning
map
and
and
reiterating
obviously,
some
of
the
comments
from
miss
beninato
and
others
that
you
know
we're
we're
looking
at
many
pieces
of
property
and
and
how
do
we
change
those
without
a
revisit
to
this
overall
general
plan,
and
with
that,
I
I
just
again
have
some
reservations
of
changing
it.
B
Does
it
fit,
it
looks
like
it
will.
There's
been.
The
city
has
grown
that
sciler
road
area
was
industrial
at
one
point,
it
was
at
the
end
of
the
city
just
about,
and
now
the
end
of
the
city
is
over
in
district
three,
and
so
those
are
where
the
the
opportunities
for
industrial
are
are
happening,
and
so
those
are
just
my
comments
and
I
do
appreciate
your
information.
A
Thank
you,
counselor
council
romeroworth.
You
have
the
floor.
H
Thank
you
mayor,
so
I
I
think
this
is
a
fascinating
conversation
and
kind
of
big
picture
thinking
about
the
area
and
how
we
do
that.
But
I
think
our
task
here
tonight
somebody
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
is
a
lot
more
narrow,
where
there
is
a
set
of
criteria
in
our
law
in
our
current
laws,
and
we
have
to
match
this
project
up
against
those
criterias.
H
Just
like
the
planning
commission
did
and
if
it
meets
the
criteria,
then
we
should
approve,
and
if
it
doesn't
then
there's
some
other
motion
right,
and
so
I
I
I
don't
know.
Maybe
I
want
the
city
attorney's
office
to
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
that
that's
our
task
here
tonight
not
to
be
you
know
deciding
does
this
fit
in
what
we
you
know
that
that
conversation
is
for
another
place.
I
think
in
an
overall
vision
of
what
we
want
the
city
to
be.
A
So,
let's
go
back
to
perhaps
miss
figali
or
mr
esquibel
councillor
merworth
is
reef
once
again
refocusing
what
what
is
in
front
of
us
and
what
are
the
criteria
we're
asked
to
use
in
evaluating
this
proposal.
If
you
could
just
summarize,
there's
nothing
wrong
with
looking
at
what
might
be
a
development
plan,
but
isn't
at
the
moment
that's
all
well
and
good,
but
for
tonight's
vote
what's
in
front
of
us
and
what
are
the
criteria
that
are
relevant?
If
you
could,
please
re
reiterate
what
we
need
to
focus
on.
U
Mr
mayor
cancer
romero
worth
for
the
general
plan,
there's
a
set
of
criteria
within
chapter
14:
it's
14
3,
2
e
and
they're,
there's
roughly
from
a
through
g
and
then
again.
First,
I
believe,
and
what
I've
been
told
in
the
past
and
what's
happened
is
zonings
and
general
plan
amendments
are
discretionary
upon
the
governing
body.
U
So
that's
the
first
thing:
it's
not
like
a
a
development
plan
or
a
subdivision
appeal
where
they
have
to
meet
the
criteria,
but
here
you're,
looking
at
its
consistency
with
the
general
plan
and
while
the
general
plan
was
developed
in
1999
and
it's
in
need
of
update,
there
are
still
some
areas
within
the
general
plan
that
you
can
see,
have
moved
forward
and
are
still
intact
with
our
our
city.
U
They
just
need
updates,
but
with
the
general
plan
approval
the
first
one
is
consisting
consistency
with
growth.
Projections
for
santa
fe
economic
development
goals
is
set
forth
in
the
comprehensive
economic
development
plan
for
the
santa
fe
and
existing
land
use
conditions
such
as
access
and
availability
of
infrastructure.
U
Certainly,
this
property
does
have
access
and
availability
for
infrastructure
consistency
with
other
parts
of
the
general
plan.
As
I
indicated
earlier
on
when
I,
when
I
referenced
those
areas
of
the
general
plan,
its
consistency,
the
amendment
does
not
allow
allow
use,
uses
or
change
that
is
significantly
different
from
or
inconsistent
with.
U
Use
or
character
of
the
area,
as
we
know,
the
silo
road
area
has
been
moving
forward
from
its
industrial
nature,
to
somewhat
more
of
a
mixed
used
variety
of
uses,
including
residential,
which
was
just
recently
or
developed
alongside
the
road
effect
on
an
area
of
less
than
two
acres.
This
is
greater
than
two
acres,
so
it
qualifies
in
that
sense,
except
when
adjusting
boundaries
between
districts.
So
this
is
actually
a
two
acre
lot
and
qualifies
for
that
general
plan.
U
Well,
this
is
a
use
that,
even
as
commercial
would
still
gener
benefit
the
general
public
for
the
number
of
uses
that
would
be
allowed
on
there,
including
residential,
and
while
the
applicant
has
provided
a
concept,
it
provides
you
an
idea
of
what's
to
come
or
what
can
happen
on
this
property
d.
An
amendment
is
not
required
to
conform
with
subsection
1432
e1c
if
it
promotes
the
general
wealth
if
it
promotes
the
general
welfare
or
has
other
adequate
public
advantages
or
justification.
U
Well,
it
is
required
because
it
is
a
general
plan
and
both
both
zones
would
do
the
same
thing:
compliance
with
the
extra
territorial
zone,
ordinance
and
extraordinary
zone
plans.
Well
that
has
been
abolished
so
that
does
no
longer
comply,
contribute
to
the
coordinate,
adjusted,
harmonious
development
of
santa
fe.
U
That
is
that,
in
accordance
with
the
existing
and
future
needs,
best
promotes
health
safety,
morals
order,
convenience,
prosperity
and
the
general
welfare,
as
well
as
efficiency
and
economy
in
the
process
of
development,
and
I
think,
as
you
saw
with
what
is
possible
with
this
property
for
a
future
application,
you
see
the
highest
and
best
use
for
the
property
that
definitely
benefits
the
general
public,
as
they
will
benefit
from
increased
housing,
commercial
use
walkability,
including
infrastructure
development
that
will
better
that
entire
area.
A
H
And-
and
thank
you
mayor
so
I
just
want
to
bring
us
back.
You
know
we
just
need
to
take
this
project
apply
what
we
know
about
it
to
these
criteria.
If
it
meets
it,
we're
you
know,
we
don't
get
to
re.
I
think,
as
the
city
attorney's
office
said
on
the
front
end,
this
is
a
quasi-judicial
hearing.
We
don't
get
to
rewrite
it
tonight
in
our
in
the
way.
We
would
want
it.
You
know
the
law.
H
A
Thank
you.
If
you
have
spoken
and
you're
done,
please
take
your
hand
down,
so
I
know
who's
not
spoken
yet
and
wishes
to
any
other
questions.
This
is
still
part
of
the
public
hearing.
A
Once
we
end
our
questions,
the
public
hearing
will
be
over
and
we'll
move
toward
motions
and
debate
and
vote,
but
the
public
hearing
period
is
still
open.
If
there
are
questions
once
we
close
it,
questions
are
not
part
of
the
going
forward.
Next
phase,
we're
talking,
then
about
motions
and
debate
any
other
questions
for
staff
witnesses
sworn
public
testimony
now
would
be
the
time
to
raise
your
hand.
A
AA
Mr
mayor,
I
just
want
to
point
out
before
anyone
makes
a
motion.
The
findings
of
facts
do
exist.
They
did
not
somehow
make
it
into
your
packet,
so
I
would
just
ask
that
if
there
is
a
motion
to
approve
that
the
findings
of
facts
are
to
be
approved
at
the
next
meeting,
we'll
have
them
provided
and
they
can
go
on
the
agenda
for
the
next
meeting.
A
G
I
will
move
to
approve
the
request
to
amend
the
general
plan.
Future
land
use
classification
from
industrial
to
community
commercial
for
approximately
2.39
acres
of
land
located
at
2868
rufina
street
and
at
the
next
meeting,
to
adopt
the
findings
of
the
planning
commission.
As
outlined
in
section
4.a
of
the
staff
memo.
AA
Mr
mayor,
if
I
may
clarify
there
will
be
new
findings
of
facts
for
a
governing
body,
not
the
planning
commission,
finding
the
facts:
okay,.
S
S
E
Q
A
A
Very
good
and
I
believe
we
are
in
a
position
to
entertain
a
motion.
A
second
motion.
G
Mr
mayor,
I
will
move
to
approve
the
request
to
rezone
approximately
2.39
acres
of
land
from
i1
light
industrial
to
c2
general
commercial
at
2868
rufina
street,
and
at
our
next
meeting,
to
adopt
the
findings
of
facts
and
conclusions
of
laws
that
will
be
provided
to
us.
Does
that
work
pat,
very
much?
Okay,.
A
Sorry,
second,
from
counselor
lindell.
Is
there
a
discussion
of
this
motion?
I
E
A
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
everyone
who
testified
and
offered
staff
support,
as
well
as
outside
testimony
very
much
appreciated.
Mr
esquivel,
thanks
for
jumping
in
tonight,
much
appreciated
sir.
A
Does
anybody
have
that
in
front
of
them
that
could
help
us
out
here.
G
I
can
move
to
approve,
we
don't
have
a
resolution
number,
but
the
resolution.
G
A
Second,
we
have
a
motion
and
we
have
a
second
thank
you
for
that
catch.
Is
there
further
discussion
on
that
motion.
D
A
D
AA
Okay,
that's
what
the
motion
is
for.
U
Mayor,
yes,
mr
esquibel,
the
ordinance
change
is
is
based
on
the
general
plan,
so
all
ordinances
are
based
on
the
general
plan.
So
the
resolution
must
come
first
to
change
the
general
plan
and
future
land
use
map,
and
then
the
ordinance
will
reflect
those
that
resolution
in
order
to
make
it
from
an
industrial.
U
A
J
Mayor
and
I
might
ask
aaron
for
clarification
on
this
before
we
move
forward,
I
did
read
the
caption
in
full,
so
when
councillor
cassette
moved
for
the
resolution,
she
also
noted
that
we
would
adopt
the
findings
written
findings.
Of
fact
that
was
the
first
one
and
then
she
did
read
the
information
related
to
the
ordinance
amendment.
So
I
just
I
myself
am
a
bit
confused
as
to
what
we're
re-voting
on,
because
I
had
already
read
in
the
caption
and
counselor
cassette.
J
Please
help
me
if
I'm
mistaken,
but
I
actually
felt
like
we
took
both
motions
properly.
The
resolution
requesting
findings
affected
the
next
governing
body
meeting
and
then
the
ordinance
language
as
well
and
findings
effect,
I'm
happy
to
reread
that
caption.
I
did
not
read
in
the
full
caption
for
18b.
G
I
would
defer
to
pat
I
I
read
the
motions
from
the
memo
and
then
apparently
these
motions
were
to
approve
resolutions
and
ordinances.
So
I
I
am
taking
direction
so
I
do
not
have
answers.
M
M
A
M
AA
I
I
don't,
I
think
it
I
think
it's
covered,
I
just
I
was
thrown
off
by
the
fact
that
the
words
were
not
in
that
motion.
U
Mayor,
I
I
I
would
agree
with
our
legal
counsel.
I
I
tend
to
have
a
habit
of
confusing
ordinance
and
bills.
I
mean
the
bill
comes
first
and
then
it
converts
to
an
ordinance-
and
I
usually
just
say
ordinance,
but
for
the
general
plan
amendment
and
the
resulting
they
do
require
a
resolution
and
an
ordinance
for
that
to
take
place.
And
then
the
mapping
will
move
forward
and
then
the
applicant
will
be
able
to
file
applications
pertinent
to
the
new
zone
change.
U
A
J
Yes,
that's
correct.
The
last
item
on
our
agenda
is
an
appointment.
This
is
item
20a,
it's
community
health
and
safety
task
force
appointment.
It
is
to
appoint
a
gino
zamora
for
the
health
and
safety
task
force.
This
appointment
shall
serve
until
the
task
force
completes
their
duties
and
responsibilities.