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C
Yes,
Aurora
black.
E
A
B
The
next
is
approval
of
the
agenda
and
I
did
have
some
have
two
changes
to
request,
discuss
under
action
items.
One
is
a
discussion
on
the
mayor's
committee
meeting
schedule
not
being
posted
on
Prime
gov
or
the
mayor's
committee
web
page
and
two
is
a
discussion
of
protocol
and
continuity
of
mayor's
committee
on
disability
meetings,
foreign
and
those
are
just
very
brief.
F
C
Okay
agenda
is
approved:
oh
I'm,
sorry,
I
will
do
roll
call
Aurora
black,
yes,
Kendra
Garcia,
yes,
Kathleen
Gish,
yes,
Pam,
perfect,
yes,
Eli
fresquez,.
G
B
You
next
is
approval
of
minutes
and
I
want
to
say
that
personally,
I
don't
approve
the
minutes.
There
is
nothing
written
in
the
minutes
to
approve.
There
is
no
summary
of
discussions
at
all
and
I
just
wanted
to
discuss.
B
That
briefly,
is
that,
even
though
we
have
a
transcript,
hopefully
with
captioning,
the
transcript
will
be
better
quality
than
the
one
that
is
in
the
packet,
but
we
still
need
a
very
brief
summary
of
what
was
discussed
so
that
people
can
know
what
was
discussed,
and
you
know
to
find
it
in
the
transcript
to
look
further.
B
That
has
not
happened.
A
lot
has
gone
down
since
we
last
met.
I
understand
that
and
I'm
not
expecting
these
minutes
to
be
done
in
the
interim.
They
can
be
sent
to
me
for
the
next
meeting.
That
would
be
satisfactory
to
me,
but
I
do
want
a
brief
summary
of
what
we
discussed
in
each
item
and
not
just
listing
the
agenda
and
action
items.
B
B
That
I
actually
need
help
to
transcribe
that
it
is
123
pages
of
errors
and
it
is
shocking
how
inaccurate
Zoom
caught
all
of
us
speaking
and
so
I'm,
not
sure
how
to
proceed
on
editing
the
transcript.
It's
going
to
take
a
team
I
think
of
people
to
edit
123
pages
of
the
transcript,
but
I
am
requesting
that
to
happen.
However,
we
can
manage
to
make
it
happen
whether
it's
committee
members
contributing
you
know,
10
minutes
of
the
video
each
or
you
know
what's
going
on.
B
It
needs
to
happen,
and
so
I'm
not
asking
necessarily
for
the
city
to
do
it.
I
I
understand
that
that's
a
lot
of
work,
but
we
need
to
figure
out
a
way
to
make
that
transcript
accurate
also
for
the
video,
because
that
is
the
transcript
that
is
attached
to
the
video
and
so
without
an
accurate
transcript.
We
don't
have
an
accurate
meeting,
which
means
we
don't
have
an
accessible
meeting,
and
so,
if
there's
any
comments
or
thoughts
on
that,
so.
D
So
the
transcript
would
be
for
people
who
can't
access
the
sound
on
the
on
the
video
yeah,
okay
and
well.
That
being
the
case,
I
move
that
we
delay
review
of
the
December
15th
transcripts
and
minutes
until
the
next
meeting.
Okay.
C
Okay,
okay,
so
Aurora
has
moved
to
delay
approval
of
the
December
15th
minutes
with
Pam
seconding
I'm
going
to
do
a
roll
call.
Kendra
do.
B
A
Have
something
to
say
first
or
yes,
I
was
gonna,
say,
is
I'm
more
than
willing
to
what
is
it
but
get
the
recording
of
the
video
and
kind
of
help
out,
at
least
with
the
transcript
as
best
as
possible.
C
G
B
You
and
then
I
have
another
comment
regarding
October
minutes
which
I
never
received,
and
so
I
need
the
October
20th
minutes
with
the
addendum
and
the
notes.
As
was
discussed
during
the
meeting
and
approved,
there
were
a
lot
of
emails
going
back
and
forth
about
those
minutes
and
I
never
did
receive
them,
and
so
I
have
been
being
patient
and
trying
not
to
add
stress
to
anybody.
B
But
those
minutes
are
actually
supposed
to
be
given
to
me
within
three
days,
but
there
was
because
Helena
you
were
new
and
a
lot
of
things
were
going
on
at
the
time.
I
was
understanding
that
I
was
going
to
be
patient
about
that,
but
really
we
need.
We
need
the
minutes
in
the
future
like
as
soon
as
they
are
voted
on,
then
the
amendments
are
supposed
to
be
made
and
I'm
supposed
to
be.
B
Given
those
minutes
to
sign
I
never
received
the
October
20th
minutes,
the
notes
with
the
notes
or
addendum,
as
was
voted
on
on
December
15th,
and
so
I
am
asking
for
that
as
soon
as
possible.
B
H
B
B
B
Thank
you
Andrew,
so
one
of
the
issues
that
we've
been
having
all
summer.
Actually,
since
we
had,
we
had
requested
new
members
in
June
of
2022
and
we
received
several
applicants.
We
had
one
position
open
and
we
had
selected
a
member
and
because
Tom
had
resigned
in
on
May
20th.
We
had
no
one
to
give
that
appointments
request
to,
and
so
it
sat
and
we
had
nowhere
to.
We
had
nowhere
to
take
him
to
say
we
want
this
to
be
given
to
the
governing
body.
B
We
couldn't
follow
protocol,
that
is
in
the
city
handbook,
for
appointments
for
members
of
committees,
and
so
when,
when
Eli
and
I
met
with
mayor
Weber
on
September,
12th
I
had
brought
this
to
his
attention
and
said
you
know
we
have
this
person
who
has
been
waiting
for
four
months
and
to
be
appointed
to
our
committee
and
there's
nowhere
for
me
to
take
him.
There's
no
there's
no
process
for
me
to
get
this
position
filled,
and
the
mayor
told
me
to
send
it
to
him
and
to
Danny
Mackey.
Who
is
here.
B
Thank
you,
Danny
for
being
here
and
and
I
did
so.
I
sent
the
request
to
Mayor
Weber
and
to
Danny
that
was
on
September,
19th
and
and
then
I
didn't
hear
anything
at
all
and
I
know.
Eli
had
followed
up
by
phone
a
couple
times
and
asked
for
information.
There
wasn't
anything
going
forward
on
October
20th,
our
our
meeting
in
October
that
we
finally
had
thanks
to
the
support
from
Danny.
To
make
that
happen.
B
and
during
the
meeting
I
had
asked
our
liaison
at
the
time
weon
g-a-g-n-o-n
for
any
updates.
He
had
none
and
then
Regina.
B
We
met
with
you
the
day
after
because
you
had
missed
the
meeting
and
and
I
had
emailed
you
more
information
on
October
23rd
as
well,
with
details
of
this
request
to
move
forward
on
this
appointment
and
you
reached
out
to
the
city
clerk's
office
at
the
time
asking
how
to
get
it
on
an
agenda
asking
how
to
move
it
forward
and
nothing,
nothing
happened
and
then
12
5
you
again
reached
out
to
the
city
clerk
asking
for
information
on
updates.
I
asked
on
12
6
for
updates.
B
You
said
there
were
none
on
12-9.
There
are
more
emails
to
this
between
the
city,
clerk
and
Regina,
trying
to
determine
which
position
was
vacant
and
the
city
clerk
has
a
three-year-old
outdated
membership
list
for
us,
because
I
know
that
because
my
old
address
was
there
and
I
moved
over
two
and
a
half
years
ago,
but
they
stated
that
was
the
current
list.
B
On
our
meeting
on
12
12
15
I
again
asked
for
updates
on
his
appointment.
Then
on
January
1st
2023,
there
were
several
emails
between
helona
and
Regina.
Regarding
updates
and
issues
occurring,
120
2023
Regina
asked
Danny
Mackey
for
updates,
saying
that
you
must
appoint
the
member
ASAP
123
23
Jenny
Mackey
replied
that
the
mayor
approved
the
appointment.
B
12323
Geralyn
Cardenas
from
the
city
clerk's
office
said
that
it
will
go
to
the
governing
body
meeting
on
12,
8
23.
and
this
I
have
to
say
is
a
person
who
has
been
waiting
since
June
since
he
applied.
That
is
over
seven
months
to
apply
one
to
a
point.
One
person
to
our
committee-
and
we
have
now
another
vacancy
possible
too
I
I-
need
to
get
in
touch
with
the
other
member,
but
I'm
I'm
wondering
if
it's
standard
process
to
take
seven
months
to
appoint
someone
to
a
committee.
I
Chair
I
can
take
that
for
you,
we
do
have
we're
trying
to
set
up
processities
on
on
media
appointments.
There
are
almost
100
committees
throughout
the
city
government
and
a
lot
of
outdated
information
and
we're
trying
to
get
everything
put
together.
I
was
tasked
with
that
to
to
work
on
and
then,
as
one
person
we
get
pulled
away
from
many
different
places
like
Regina
knows,
there's
so
much
going
on
that
we've
got
to
fill
holes
so
I'm,
sorry
that
this
appointment
process
took
so
much
time.
I
I
I'll
assure
you
that
next
time
you
with
the
two
new
vacancies,
if
you
get
me
recommendations
for
those
two
positions,
we'll
try
to
turn
it
around
in
a
timely
manner,
so
I
just
wanted
to
apologize
that
it
took
too
long
and
we're
getting
better
at
it,
and
we
will
have
stuff
taken
to
in
a
timely
manner.
B
I
Our
rules-
sorry,
madam
chair,
our
rule
state-
that
is,
you
can
continue
on
an
expired
term
until
you
have
been
your
replacement
has
been
named,
if
you
guys,
so
they
are
still
legally
voting
members,
and
if
you
want
to
put
their
names
in
for
reappointment
as
well,
we
could
take
all
care
of
that
all
at
the
same
time.
Yes,.
B
I
sent
it
to
Regina
requesting
that
it
be
submitted
at
the
same
time,
so
yeah
it
should
be,
and
I
can
I
can
forward
you
that
email
Danny
so.
F
That
I
sent
it
to
you.
Danny
said
it
twice
already,
as
well
as
the
city
clerk's
office,
so.
B
I
Yeah,
all
right
I
will
take
a
look,
and
we
will
we
will
work
on
those
and
get
them
reappointed
at
the
same
time
as
we
do
the
two
new
appointments.
Thank
you.
B
B
So
in
the
interim
between
well
trying
to
set
up
this
this
meeting,
there
were
multiple
meetings
with
a
gentleman
named
Jeff
Norris,
and
he
had
stated
to
me.
I
I
told
him
that
the
mayor's
committee
on
disability
meetings
were
not
being
posted
publicly
they're,
not
on
the
website,
and
they
are
not
on
Prime
gov
and
prior
to
this
year
the
meetings
had
been
listed
throughout
the
year
on
Prime
gov
and
also
on
our
web
page.
B
There
was,
there
was
a
an
identified
list
of
the
dates
of
our
actual
meetings
and
times
he
told
me
that
they
were
not
published
yet
initially,
apparently,
they
were
even
listed
improperly
in
Prime
gov,
but
he
corrected
them
and
then
the
reason
why
I
was
even
asking
was
because
our
meeting
was
not
even
posted
as
occurring
until
the
agenda
was
posted,
and
that
was
about
five
days
four
or
five
days
prior
to
our
meeting
in
the
past,
the
meeting
was
posted
publicly
and
then
the
agendas
and
packet
items
and
everything
were
just
added
to
it,
but
the
notice
was
actually
on
there.
B
Everything
was
on
there
ready
to
go,
and
the
meeting
was
noted
to
the
public
that
it
was
going
to
occur
in
advance,
that's
no
longer
happening,
and
so
basically
the
public
has
four
days
notice
to
attend.
Our
meetings
and
Regina
had
asked
me
either
early
or
mid-January
for
the
agenda
because
of
that
and
got.
F
Him
chair,
if
I,
could
that's
standard
process,
it's
according
to
the
open
meeting,
Zach
the
for
all
committee
meetings
across
the
city,
whether
it's
the
governing
body
or
the
finance
committee,
or
whether
it's
Planning
Commission,
which
are
all
public
meetings.
They
are
all
posted
with
their
packets.
Approximately
five
days
before
the
meeting
correct.
F
I'm,
so
sorry,
yes,
the
only
one
that's
on
there
now
you'll
see
is
the
bicycle
and
pedestrian
advisory
committee
and
they
actually
are
not
incorrectly
listed
so
you're
only
supposed
to
post
it.
Once
you
get
your
entire
agenda,
that's
direction
from
the
city,
clerk
and
helona
did
check
in
and
verify
and
so
all
meetings.
The
process
follows
the
open
meetings
act,
which
is
to
say
it's
posted.
F
You
can
do
it
more
than
five
days
in
advance
if
you
want,
if
you
want
to
get
the
whole
packet
together,
10
days
in
advance,
it
can
all
be
posted,
but
they
won't
post
the
meeting
to
the
public
on
Prime
gov
until
the
agenda
is
finalized
and
we
do
the
same
with
all
the
governing
body
meetings.
All
the
finance
committee
meetings
and
there's
like
Danny
said
there
are
a
hundred
committees
in
the
city
and
you'll,
see
you
don't
see
Planning
Commission
meetings
in
there.
F
You
don't
see
any
other
readings
until
they
have
their
agenda
so
that
we
did
check
with
the
city
clerk
on
that.
B
Was
2022.,
it
was
January
through
December
2022.
and
when
we
voted
in
December
for
the
new
calendar,
it
should
have
been
updated
to
the
2023
schedule
and
it
was
not
sure.
B
B
So
I
don't
know
if
anyone
has
any
thoughts
on
the
new
primegov
calendar,
not
listing
meetings.
But
to
me
that
is
actually
incredibly
disruptive,
because
I
was
able
before
to
look
months
in
advance
and
see
the
quarterly
meetings,
the
monthly
meetings
and
know
when
something
was
going
to
happen
and
be
able
to
plan
for
it.
And
now
I
can't
do
that
and
now
I
have
no
central
location
to
identify
how
to
attend
meetings
where
to
attend
meetings.
B
What's
going
to
happen
next
month,
and
so
I
just
want
that
on
record,
that
that
is
actually
really
sad
for
public
awareness
that
we
can't
know
when
our
meetings
are
going
to
are
being
planned
for
the
long-term
meetings.
B
So
next
is
unless
Eli
is
ready,
but
I
don't
think
he
is
discussion
at
protocol
and
continuity
of
mayor's
committee
meetings.
B
So,
during
the
the
time
of
setting
up
this
meeting,
there
were
several
discussions
going
back
and
forth
about
open
meetings,
act,
requirements
and
different
things
like
saying
the
action
items
needed
an
action,
but
the
mayor's
committee
on
disability
has
never
done
that
are
our
action
items
were
always
listed
as
either
new
business
or
action
items
for
discussion,
and
this
is
because
when
we
have
ADA
compliance
issues
occurring
or
access
issues
or
barriers
to
access
in
our
community,
these
are
timely
time,
sensitive
actions
that
need
to
occur
and
we
need
to
discuss
them
first
and
if
we
were
to
wait
and
put
them
under
discussion
only
then
it
would
take
months
to
get
to
that
item
before
we
could
take
an
action,
and
that
means
that
a
person
is
maintaining
a
barrier
to
their
Community
or
something
that
could
actually
be
life-threatening
to
that
person.
B
And
so
we
need
to
take
sometimes
take
immediate
action
and
discuss
immediate
actions
to
take,
and
so
you
know,
I've
I've
sent
this
to
you.
Regina
I.
Didn't
receive
a
response,
but
I
know
that
you
received
it.
Alona
I
appreciate
you
updating
the
agenda
to
be
the
way
that
we
had
had
it
to
say,
action,
items,
discussion
and-
and
we
will
continue
with
that
protocol,
because
that
is
how
we
need
it.
As
this
committee
Regina
go
ahead,.
F
Thank
you
so
much
Madam
chair,
I
just
want
to
point
out
that,
according
to
the
open
meetings
act,
the
committee
must
post
the
words
of
the
action
that
will
be
taken
to
notice
the
public
of
that
of
that
exact
action.
And
so
that's
just
the
open
meeting
exact
requirement.
So
you're,
like
that's
the
big
one.
If
you
are
going
to
take
a
formal
action,
it
must
be
on
the
agenda.
Yeah.
D
Could
I
ask
when
you
listed
on
the
agenda
because
it
is
a
possible
action
item
you're
going
to
take
a
vote?
Do
you
just
name
the
issue
or
do
you
have
to
have
a
specific
motion?
You
wouldn't
already
have
a
specific
motion
because
yes.
F
That's
the
requirement
is
that
you're
actually
posting
a
specific
action
and
if
you'll
notice,
that
they're
called
captions
and
so
that
the
public
knows
like
if
they,
if
they
see
your
caption
and
they
want
to
like
weigh
in
or
if
it
affects
them.
If
there
isn't,
if
there's
just
a
general
subject,
the
public
doesn't
know
how
they
might
be
affected
by
your
action.
So
any
formal
action
has
to
be
noticed
on
the
agenda
of
the
way
you
that
you're
gonna
move
it.
That's
the
big
requirement.
D
F
What
happens
in
advances
coordination
with
the
chair
in
the
preparation
of
the
agenda?
So,
for
instance,
when
a
very
common
motion
would
be
we
move
to
adopt
the
pedestrian
master
plan
provided
by
mpo
for
2023.,
or
we
move
to
approve.
A
F
Know
if
this
or
we
move
to
adopt
our
recommendation
of
our
10
priorities
for
the
2024
budget,
you
know
so
you
would
put
that
caption
there.
It
does
it
and
then
your
10
priorities
could
be
discussed
just
as
the
council
does
they
organize
their
10
priorities
and
then
they
say
we
move
to
adopt
the
10
priorities,
as
indicated
for
the
2024
budget,
and
you
would
put
that
in
the
agenda.
F
Adoption
of
10
priorities
for
the
2024
budget
or
adoption
of
The
Pedestrian
master
plan,
or
something
like
that.
B
Well
clearly,
so
in
the
past,
I
have
stated
that
committee
members,
City
staff,
don't
get
any
sort
of
orientation
when
we
hold
commit
when
we
become
a
Committee
Member,
we
don't
even
get
like.
This
is
what
the
city
hierarchy
looks
like
you
know.
We
don't
get
any
sort
of
introduction
to
the
city
and
when
I
was
an
intern
for
the
city,
we
actually
I
had
to
attend
the
city
orientation.
So
I
got
something
in
the
past,
but
it
was
a
long
time
ago
and
I
have
discussed
many
times
that
we
need
an
orientation.
B
This
is
happening
in
other
communities
where
there
is
an
orientation
for
committee
members
to
have
their
obligations
and
duties
discussed
and
and
understood
by
them,
and
the
fact
that
the
city
isn't
doing.
That
is
absolutely
disruptive
to
this
process
of
holding
public
meetings,
and
all
of
us
have
been
thrown
into
this.
We
have.
No,
we
all
we
can
do
is
is
read
the
handbooks
and
guess,
and
for
the
most
part,
even
me,
being
just
being
a
chair.
I
have
had
no
guidance
whatsoever
on
what
I'm
even
supposed
to
be
doing.
B
And
so
I
need
to
say
that
and
like
I
said
other
communities.
I'm
aware
of
this,
because
I
have
friends
who
are
across
the
country
on
similar
disability
committees
for
their
communities,
whether
it's
a
city
or
the
county
or
the
state,
and
they
have
orientations
to
orient
them
and
to
have
them,
understand
their
obligations
and
rights
and
responsibilities.
As
committee
members.
B
So
the
other
issue
that
I
was
having
is
that
with
prime
gov,
when
helona
had
updated
the
agenda
and
items
that
I
had
given
something
went
wrong
with
it,
and
the
presentation
section
was
not
uploaded
I'm
aware
that
there
are
issues
with
prime
gov
Robin
I,
don't
know
if
I
can
request
training
now,
I.
Honestly,
if
you
want
to
discuss
that
I
honestly,
don't
know
I
mean
it.
It's
I,
don't
know,
go
ahead.
J
Is
it
okay
for
me
to
speak
being
public
okay
I?
Just
if,
if
the
training
is
what
you
guys
need,
and
that
would
help
things
move
easier
for
the
city
and
for
you,
then
it
seems
like
an
orientation
would
be
good.
I
know
that
on
the
New
Mexico
technology
assistance
program,
we've
got
new
members
and
we're
doing
an
orientation
for
them.
So
I
do
think
that
it's
important
an
important
part
of
the
whole
process.
F
B
Thank
you
and
yeah.
It's
been
an
issue
with
staff
not
being
trained,
because
if
the
staff
aren't
trained
and
the
committee
members
aren't
trained,
we
go
to
the
staff
assuming
that
the
staff
know
and
the
staff
say
we
don't
know
either
and
then
we're
like
well,
who
do
we
go
to?
Will
we
try
to
go
to
the
Attorney
General's
office
and
I
just
got
put
in
circles
trying
to
get
a
hold
of
anybody,
and
even
Eli
tried
to
reach
out
to
the
Attorney
General's
office
for
people
who
are
trained?
B
J
B
Exactly
yeah
and
they
go
hand
in
hand,
which
is
why
I
brought
that
up
is
is
the
city
is
following
open
meetings
act
for
our
meetings,
but
yet
we've
never
had
training
on
how
to
comply
with
the
open
meetings
act.
But
yet
we're
expected
to.
And
yet
we
don't
know
our
obligations.
And
then
we
don't
know
City
protocol
for
running
meetings
or
holding
meetings
or
what's
going
to
happen.
J
B
B
Absolutely,
and
so
one
of
the
things
I
wanted
to
say
was
that
I'm
aware
of
some
issues
with
primegov
that
it
is
not
user
friendly
and
that
it
takes
a
lot
of
training
for
people
to
be
able
to
use
it
for
the
city
staff
to
be
able
to
use
it.
B
It's
also
not
very
friendly
for
someone
like
myself,
who
is
partially
blind.
It
is
a
big
long
list
of
committees
and
there's
really
no
way
to
search
easily
for
one
committee.
The
Committees
listed
are
at
the
very
bottom
of
the
page,
and
and
it's
just
it's
really
not
user
friendly,
and
it
was
again
when
the
city
took
on
Prime
gov
again.
They
never
requested
our
input
from
this
committee
as
to
whether
it
was
usable
by
people
with
disabilities
or
not.
B
They
never
requested
our
feedback
on
whether
it
would
be
useful
and-
and
we
never
received
any
sort
of
understanding
of
the
internal
working
of
it
to
make
sure
that
City
staff
who
have
disabilities,
or
even
just
the
usability
of
it,
just
the
features
and
and
ease
of
use
to
make
sure
that
people
with
disabilities
who
are
city
employees,
would
be
able
to
use
it.
Those
are
all
really
important
points
that
need
to
be
made
when
the
city
is
doing
something
this
drastic
to
change.
B
The
way
that
that
things
are
done
for
these
meetings.
This.
This
is
how
meetings
are
are
being
notified
to
the
public
now,
but
was
any
discussion
ever
made
of
how
people
would
access
it
with
disabilities?
I
have
no
idea
because
they
certainly
haven't
come
to
us.
They
didn't
include
us
in
any
of
that,
and
so
you
know
it's.
B
That
is
an
ongoing
issue
and
an
ongoing
problem
with
the
city
of
just
taking
things
on
and
not
making
sure
with
the
mayor's
committee
on
disability
and
other
Advocates
that
these
systems
are
actually
accessible
and
usable
by
people
with
disabilities
and
the
General
Public
and
so
Eli
I.
Don't
know
if
you're
ready
yet.
B
If
he's
not
ready,
which
doesn't
seem
like
he
is,
let
me
see
who
just
texted
me.
B
Okay,
so
what
I'm
going
to
do
is
I'm
going
to
go
to
discussion
items
no
action,
but
when
Elight
is
available,
I'm
going
to
come
back
to
item
7B,
which
is
ice,
removal
in
the
city
of
Santa
Fe
as
an
ADA
compliance
issue,
because
I
know
that
Eli
is
in
another
meeting
for
his
job
and
I.
Think
that
that's
unfair
to
just
skip
him
right
now.
It's
not
his
doing,
and
so.
B
So
item
8A
continued
discussion
on
the
status
of
mayor's
committee
on
disability
meetings,
compliance
and
ADA
compliance
in
the
city
of
Santa,
Fe
I'm
gonna
do
a
really
quick
run
through
it's
not
going
to
be
complete,
but
it
is
again
for
a
full
reference
or
better
reference.
Hopefully
we
will
have
the
transcript
up
from
the
October
20th
22
2022
meeting,
which
gives
a
much
more
complete
itemized
list
of
examples
of
ADA
compliance
issues
happening
in
the
in
the
city
of
Santa
Fe.
B
Currently,
because
the
1215
transcript
is
not
complete,
the
meeting
as
far
as
I
know
was
posted,
so
the
video
is
available
to
be
reviewed
on
on
Prime
gov
or
on
actually
they're
putting
it
on
YouTube
now.
So
it's
on
it's
on
the
city
YouTube
website.
Now
we
do
have
our
own
folder
now,
which
is
actually
a
really
wonderful
update,
and
so
so
the
video
should
be
available
from
12
15
2022
on
YouTube.
B
B
As
interim
Ada
coordinator,
the
discussions
all
stated
that
there
was
no
one
available
to
take
on
the
role
and
our
meetings
stopped
after
June,
because
Tom
was
not
able
to
continue
his
new
position
as
well
as
the
interim
AGA
coordinator
role,
and
so
our
meeting
stopped
after
June
and
we
as
a
committee,
were
not
able
to
resolve
the
issues
occurring
because
we
aren't
allowed
to
meet
as
a
quorum.
B
So
we
could
only
meet
three
of
us
at
a
time
legally,
and
so
it
was
pretty
much
me
and
Eli
I'm
trying
to
resolve
all
of
this,
and
we
were
trying
to
meet
with
the
governing
body.
We
tried
to
obtain
extra
time
on
the
floor.
We
knew
we
needed
at
least
10
minutes
to
thoroughly
discuss
the
issue
of
the
lack
of
an
Eda
coordinator
and
what
it
would
mean
to
ADA
compliance
as
well
as
other
issues
that
were
really
quickly
becoming
apparent
with
the
city.
B
We
were
denied
time
on
the
floor
extra
time
on
the
floor.
We
were
told
that
that,
because
we
were
members
of
the
public,
we
would
be
given
two
minutes,
but
that
was
not
enough,
and
so
we
then
realized
that
we
needed
to
meet
with
mayor
Weber.
We
met
with
mayor
Weber
on
nine
on
September
12th
2022
and
gave
him
a
very
brief.
We
met
with
him
for
half
hour.
It
was
a
very
brief
but
very
concise
list
of
the
most
important
issues
that
were
happening.
B
Mayor
Weber
expressed
his
support
for
ADA
compliance
and
disability
access
and
inclusion
in
Santa
Fe
and
by
October
20th.
We
did
in
fact
have
a
meeting.
It
was
last
minute.
Lee
had
been
given
Lee
Lee
Gagnon
Who
was
the
liaison
for
one
meeting
before
he
resigned
from
the
city.
He
was
basically
given
three
days
to
prepare
our
meeting.
B
He
was
thrown
in
last
minute.
Everything
was
last
minute,
and
so
it
was
a
little
bit
abrupt
and
disruptive
and
very
hard
to
plan
for
the
October
meeting.
We
tried
to
hold
a
November
meeting
Regina,
you
couldn't
be
there,
and
so
we
didn't
do
that.
B
We
held
a
December
15th
meeting
and
and
then
again
realize
that
not
a
lot
had
happened
in
the
interim
to
assure
AGA
compliance,
which
is
why
we
need
to
hold
monthly
meetings
to
check
in
to
make
sure
that
things
are
moving
forward
smoothly
to
make
sure
that
Regina
is
receiving
the
support
she
needs
from
the
city
as
well
as
Danny
Mackey
is
receiving
the
support
needed
and
just
to
be
all
on
the
same
page,
moving
forward
on
this,
because
these
issues
are
incredibly
important
to
people
with
disabilities.
B
Unfortunately,
the
city
is
still
not
in
compliance
with
Ada
Regina
did
take
on
the
role
of
ADA
interim
Ada
coordinator.
She
chose
to
do
that.
I
am
aware
that
she
has
five
other
jobs
that
she
is
taking
on,
and
that
is
an
issue
with
human
resources
that
I
will
get
to
in
a
minute.
B
B
Things
like
weed
removal.
I
actually
have
an
interesting
update
on
the
weed
removal
issue,
which
is
that
on
August,
2nd
I
notified
Tom
Brown,
but
he
was
not
the
interim
AGA
coordinator
on
August
9th.
It
was
forwarded
to
the
city
and
they
created
a
work
order,
work
order,
12304,
telling
I
I
stated
gigantic
weeds
and
overgrowth
completely
blocking
the
sidewalks
and
paths
on
Paseo,
De,
Peralta
and
West.
B
B
The
thing
that's
funny
is
that
I
know
that
in
the
interim
sometime
around
late
September
early
October,
someone
went
in
there
and
we're
so
upset
with
the
the
fact
that
the
sidewalk
was
blocked,
that
they
hacked
down
the
weeds
in
a
very,
very
hacked
way.
It
was
not
safe.
It
was
not
done
safely.
There
were
sharp
points
in
the
to
the
tree.
B
It
was,
it
was
actually
trees
growing
out
of
the
sidewalk,
and
so
people
could
actually
obtain
access
to
the
sidewalk
unsafely,
but
that
was
in
October
and
so
I'm
I'm
kind
of
confused.
As
to
why
I'm
still
receiving
a
notice
on
December
29th
about
the
weeds
being
removed
and
acting
like
the
city
had
removed
them
when
they
didn't,
they
have
been
gone.
People
people
went
in
there
several
times
and
hacked
more
of
them
down
until
they
were
completely
gone.
F
B
F
J
You
know
this
is
this
is
one
of
the
things
that
I
was
working
with
Tom
Graham
on,
because
because
you
know,
I
have
a
similar
experience
with
the
client
who
called
here
with
an
accessibility
issue,
and
it
really
literally
took
eight
months
for
something
to
be
done,
and
so
I
I
do
think
that
there's
a
considerable
time
delay
from
the
time
someone
reports
an
ADA
concern
to
the
time
anything
gets
done
about
it
and
I
do
think
that
that
is
a
serious
issue
and
needs
to
to
be
addressed
and
again,
I
was
working
with
Tom
on
this,
but
then
once
he
resigned
it
all
kind
of
kind
of
fell
by
the
wayside.
J
So
I
do
think.
This
is
definitely
something
for
ongoing
discussion
and
some
maybe
some
revisions
to
how
things
are
done
and
and
I.
Think
we've
had
that
discussion
with
several
of
us
talking
about
moving
the
Ada
coordinated
position
to
another
department
where
it
can
be
more
streamlined,
I
mean
there's
all
kinds
of
options
that
can
be
happening,
but
I
the
conversations
need
to
be
happening
and
things
need
to
be
moving
and
I.
Think
that
that's
that's
a
big
concern.
J
It
can't
it
shouldn't
take
eight
months
for
an
ADA
request
to
be
addressed
and
point.
In
fact,
it's
not
just
people
with
disabilities,
but
if
it's
a
sidewalk,
that's
covered
or
it's
typically,
if
it
affects
some.
If
it
affects
someone
with
a
disability,
it's
affecting
other
people
too
mothers
with
strollers.
J
You
know,
I
mean
children,
visitors,
I
mean
all
kinds
of
stuff,
and
so
I
do
think
that
this
is
a
serious
issue.
That
really
does
need
to
be
addressed,
and
perhaps
with
the
new
Ada
coordinator
higher.
J
You
know
someone
who's
just
dedicated
to
that.
We
we
can
really
make
some
progress
on
changing
some
of
this.
A
B
And
one
of
the
the
ongoing
issues
which
I
consider
Human
Resources
issue
with
the
city
and
hiring
issue
has
been
that,
when
we
request
for
things
to
be
done,
that
the
city
staff
constantly
cites
the
lack
of
staff
and
why
it's
not
being
done-
and
so
the
lack
of
staff
is
huge,
Regina
is,
is
doing
five
jobs.
She
shouldn't
be.
She
should
not
be
doing
five
jobs
and
I
know
Regina.
B
When
I
had
talked
with
you
and
when
Eli
and
I
had
talked
with
you,
you
had
discussed
that
there's
approximately
a
30
percent
lack
of
Staff
with
the
city
and
that
a
lot,
a
large
percentage
of
that
is
in
your
department,
and
a
lot
of
these
issues
are
because
of
that.
A
lot
of
these
issues
are
big
are
because
there
is
no
one
to
address
the
Ada
complaints
that
are
coming
through,
which
involve
weeds
or
ice
removal
or
potholes
in
crosswalks
or
crosswalks
needing
to
be
painted,
or
things
needing
to
be
done.
B
A
lot
of
it
is
in
public
works,
not
all
of
it.
Some
of
it's
in
the
city
clerk's
office
and
some
of
it's
in
Human
Resources
as
well
that
I've
identified,
but
a
lot
of
it
is,
is
in
response
to
that,
and
so
it
it's
a
problem.
B
I,
don't
know
how
I
can't
address
it
myself.
Obviously
it's
it's
an
issue
with
human
resources.
B
I
know
that
one
of
the
things
that
I've
noticed
in
this
interim
time
with
the
Ada
coordinator
position
being
posted
sporadically,
is
that
jobs
are
being
posted
for
two
weeks
at
a
time
and
then
they
disappear
for
a
month
or
two
or
three,
and
then
they
get
reposted
and
and
so
what
it's
doing
is
it's
effectively
hiding
positions
that
are
available
from
the
public
so
that
it
takes
longer
to
fill
them.
B
It
is
making
it
so
that
there
seems
to
be
less
positions
available
than
there
actually
are,
and
it's
delaying
positions
being
filled
so
that
people
can
actually
fill
these
rules
and
take
on
this
work
and
complete
these
jobs
that
need
to
be
completed
in
order
to
comply
with
Ada
and
and
so
all
of
that
is
a
barrier
I
like
I,
said
I'm
identifying,
HR
I'm,
not
it's
not
Regina's
fault,
that
her
department
is
not
filling
it's
it's
a
a
process
to
fill
positions
that
is,
delaying
filling
the
positions
that
is
occurring
in
the
city
and,
and
so
I've
noticed
that,
and
even
with
the
Ada
position,
Ada
coordinator
position,
it's
been
delayed
because
of
being
posted
for
two
weeks.
B
At
a
time
no
one
applies,
one
person
applies,
you
know
whatever
is
happening
and
then
they
don't
get
hired
and
then
it
gets
delayed
again
for
a
month
and-
and
so
it's
you
know,
it
just
seems
like
for
something
and
and
Regina
you
did
address
this,
and
I
am
thankful
for
that
that
you
did
when
I
asked
Bernadette
what
the
process
was,
and
she
said
that
the
the
director
would
be
able
to
create
this.
Basically,
the
standards
for
hiring.
B
You
did
address
that
issue
and
I
did
ask
in
the
past
that
it
be
posted
for
one
month.
You
said
you
would
be
willing
to
do
that
if
it
needed
to
be
done,
and
so
I
am
acknowledging
that
and
thanking
you
and
thanking
you
for
updating
the
Ada
coordinator,
job
description.
That
was
absolutely
key
in
all
of
this,
but
there
is
still
a
lot
of
work
to
be
done
with
hiring
enough
staff
to
be
able
to
fill
these
roles.
Go
ahead.
Robin
and
Pam
sorry
go
ahead.
J
F
Madam
chair,
would
you
like
me
to
answer
that?
Yes,
please
Madam,
chair
members
of
the
committee.
The
way
it
happens
is
minimum
posting
is
for
two
weeks.
That's
what
most
jobs
are
posted
for,
because
everybody's
in
a
hurry
to
hire,
so
they
feel
like
I,
don't
want
to
wait
a
month
to
get
my
eligible
candidates,
but
it
is
up
to
the
discretion
of
the
posting
manager,
whether
you
want
to
post
it
for
two
weeks
or
a
month.
Those
are
our
two
options
a
lot
of
times.
F
We
do
two
weeks
because
we're
in
a
hurry,
but
it's
probably
not
wise.
You
probably
want
to
wait
a
whole
month.
Then
you
have
to
interview
the
candidates
and
make
a
decision
a
lot
of
times.
We
select
one,
but
then
you
know
the
whole
process
takes
a
couple
few
months
to
get
someone
in
the
door.
There's
reference
checking
there's
you
know,
but
they
you
know
background
checks,
there's
physical
checks
and
sometimes
they
don't
make
it
all
the
way.
F
B
F
Yeah
yeah
and
the
reason
is
because
of
this
thing,
where
we've
been
picking
people
but
then
the
job
Market's
so
tight,
then
they
get
other
offers
and
we'll
be
in
the
middle
of
trying
to
get
them
or
they'll
fail.
Some
like
physical
check
or
something
like
that.
So
yeah
it
takes
about
three
months
before
you
like
either
get
your
person
or
don't
get
them,
and
then
you
post
it
and.
B
That's
what
happened
and
that's
what
happened
with
the
first
posting
of
the
Ada
coordinator
that
you
had
you
had
selected
someone
who
was
a
good
fit
for
that
job
description
at
the
time.
It
was
not
the
job
description
we
have
currently,
but
it
was
for
the
prayer
job
description
and
that
they
had
found
another
job
in
that
three-month
interim.
While
they
were
waiting
to
hear
back
from
HR
yeah
well,.
F
It
wasn't
that
she
probably
heard
from
us
I
think
it
was
like
a
month
and
a
half.
We
got
the
offer
to
her,
but
the
offers
do
take
a
while
to
get
out
the
door
and
you
can
lose
somebody
by
them.
It's
true.
She
lived
in
Rio
Rancho
and
really
ended
up
nailing
a
job
in
Rio,
Rancho,
yeah.
H
Louise
is
a
certain
posted
jobs.
For
example,
the
Ada
coordinator,
I,
haven't
looked
on
the
site
myself
to
verify
this,
but
I
was
told
by
people
with
Ada
training
and
qualifications
to
apply
for
the
Ada
position
here
that
the
salary
is
so
low
that
to
do
this
job
for
the
entire
city
of
Santa
Fe
was
ridiculous,
like
they
wouldn't
even
consider
applying.
F
Madam,
chair
Pam
yeah,
we
wrote
the
new
job
description
and
we
got
it
run
through
safe.
It
was
upgraded
like
four
grades
from
the
old,
so
the
range
of
the
position
is
posted
on
the
vacancy
and
it's
now
a
higher
range
than
it
was
originally.
I
Just
to
piggyback
Madam
chair
what
Regina
said,
we
have
a
program
where
we
call
it's
called
safe,
where
we
run
job
descriptions
through
this
program,
and
it
tells
us
what
the
range
is.
So
it's
we
just
don't
make
up
a
range
and
then
it's
also
budgeting
and
also
other
issues
that
what
determines
the
ranges
and
and
how
what
we
can
offer.
Thank.
F
B
F
That's
correct:
okay,
Tom
was
over,
it
was
paid
way
over
the
range,
and
so
we
maintained
that
budget.
F
H
F
I
To
let
what
Regina
said
this
city
of
Santa
Fe
provides
a
probably
one
of
the
best
benefit
packages
in
the
State.
We
pay
more
into
Pera,
so
your
take-home
pay
is
a
lot
more
than
if
you
get
paid
the
same
amount
in
the
state.
I
Our
health
insurance
is
a
premium
health
insurance
and
we
take
out.
We
don't
take
out
that
much
for
health
insurance,
so
your
take-home
pays
more
so
it
at
thirty
dollars
an
hour
you're
at
the
city,
you're
taking
home
more
than
you
are
taking
home
in
the
state.
If
you
had
a
30
an
hour
job.
B
Thank
you,
Danny
I'm,
gonna
I'm
gonna
continue
on
on,
but
thank
you
for
all
of
that
information
and
again
you
know
when
I
looked
at
other
communities.
You
know
the
Ada
coordinators
are
making
around
four
thousand
dollars
a
month
or
more
granted
it's
a
larger
City,
but
not
by
much,
and
so
you
know,
we
we
of
course
will
be
working
on.
B
I
We
interviewed
some
candidates
Regina
and
myself
were
in
the
interview
panel,
along
with
one
other
person.
We
did
that
last
week.
My
days
are
running
together,
so
I'm
trying
to
remember
last
week.
I
think
it
was
all
of
ours
are
yes,
I
got
the
session
and
everything
going
on
so
I'm
smashed.
I
So
we
will
be
notified
the
candidates
of
what
the
next
steps
are.
Okay,.
B
Do
you
have
a
timeline,
I
know
Regina,
and
everyone
have
explained
you
know
three
months
average,
but
I
know
we
had
asked
for
this
position
to
be
expedited
because
of
the
urgency
of
the
need
for
ADA
compliance,
and
so
what
is
the
timeline
still.
B
Thank
you,
and
if
you
email
me
that
I'll
just
forward
that
to
everybody-
that's
that's
here
and,
and
we
can
all
be
on
the
same
page
and
and
then
I'll
report
it
in
the
next
meeting
publicly.
Okay,
thank
you.
B
So
one
of
my
concerns
is
that
if
these
ADA
compliance
issues
which
again
involve
some
the
lack
of
transition
plan,
updates,
I
mean
it's
a
long,
long
long
list.
It's
it's
the
website,
you
know
not
being
completely
compliant
and
it's
that's
a
long
list
if
the
Department
of
Justice
were
to
come
in
here.
B
One
of
my
concerns
is
that
they
would
not
necessarily
care
that
or
or
take
it
as
an
excuse,
that
there's
a
lack
of
staff
and
it
actually
says
multiple
places,
that
lack
of
stuff
is
not
an
excuse
for
Ada
non-compliance
and,
while
I
can
emphasize
with
the
lack
of
staff
and
know
how
that
affects
people
and
know
how
it
affects
you
Regina
to
have
you
doing
five
jobs,
it's
still
they're
not
going
to
care
and
that's
what
my
concern
is.
B
Is
that
we're
here
trying
to
resolve
these
issues
so
that
the
Department
of
Justice
doesn't
come
in
and
create
absolute
turmoil?
And
we've
been
trying
now
since
May
of
2022
to
address
these
issues,
and
so
it's
it
just
feels
like
in
a
lot
of
ways
like
it's
dragging
on
I
know
that
part
of
it
is
dragging
on
because
of
the
lack
of
Staff,
but
at
the
same
time
we've
been
very
honest
and
very
upfront
about
what
is
needed
and
and
I
know
Danny
you
I
was
with
you
in
that
meeting.
B
We
were
trying
to
be
as
clear
as
possible
and
Regina
with
you
as
well.
We've
been
trying
to
be
as
clear
as
possible
on
what
the
most
important
AGA
compliant
issues
needing
to
be
addressed
are,
and
so
I
don't
know
how
else
to
proceed
with
that
other
than
that.
We're
still
here
trying-
and
this
is
not
normally
what
we
do
you
know.
Normally,
we
are
here
thinking
about
really
great
things
of
you
know.
How
can
we
make
the
city
more
more
accessible?
How
can
we
improve
Services?
B
How
can
we,
you
know,
improve
Paratransit
and
what
are
really
fun
things
that
we
can
think
of
to
do
you
know
how
do
we
get?
You
know
free
services,
for
people,
and-
and
here
we
are
talking
absolute
basic
ADA
compliance.
This
is
the
most
basic
ADA
compliance.
That
was
supposed
to
be
in
place
and
established
in
full
permanently
in
1992.
According
to
the
Ada
laws
that
I've
read
that
was,
and
it's
it's
gone
there
isn't
there
was-
has
been
no
Ada
coordinator
from
May.
Until
when
did
you
take
it
on
October
Regina?
B
Do
you
remember
it
was
October
yeah.
It
was
October
so
that
interim
time
that
wasn't
supposed
to
happen
all
of
the
weeds
taking
over
the
city
every
summer,
that's
an
ADA
compliance
issue.
That's
blocking
people
from
accessing
food,
housing,
employment,
bus,
Access,
Medical,
Care,
all
kinds
of
things
and
all
of
those
need
to
be
addressed.
So
you
know
right
now.
The
ice
is
a
problem,
go
ahead
and
Robin
well,.
J
So
I
think
I
think
that
this
is
a
pretty
serious
issue,
I
mean,
for
example,
and
I.
Maybe
it's
coming
up
later
in
the
agenda,
but
I
know
that
that
cart
has
been
requested
and
Regina.
I
know.
You've
done
some
work
on
that.
But
technically
at
this
point,
if
someone
were
to
want
to
file
a
complaint
on
this
with
higher
levels,
doj
or
or.
J
You
do
okay,
I
had
asked
for
updates
on
that
I
never
got
not
got
that
it's
actually
last
I
heard
you
were
still
waiting
to
hear
from
other
people.
That's
why
I
was
asking
about
it,
but
yeah.
That's
so
good!
I'm
glad
that's
great!
That
went
through
that's
excellent
yeah,
and
that
was
just
an
example
of
if
that
hadn't
been.
J
B
And
even
just
the
fact
that
it
took
us
from
requesting
cart
from
July
12th
until
today
to
get
it.
That's
that's
not
how
that's
supposed
to
work.
You
know
it's
just
it's
really
not.
There
was
no
process
in
place
in
the
city.
Clerk's
office
did
not
know
what
to
do
with
our
request.
Even
though
she's
identified
as
the
source
you
go
to
for
disability
accommodations
in
public
meetings,
she
knew
nothing
so
Eli
go
ahead.
B
J
J
G
Yeah
I
apologize,
everyone
I
was
at
in
a
couple
different
meanings
and
but
able
to
hop
off
for
a
minute.
One
suggestion
is:
maybe
we
do
this
offline,
but
we
set
up
a
meeting
where
we
kind
of
work
through
the
process
and
I
apologize.
G
If
this
has
already
been
talked
about,
where
maybe
we
have
like
a
simple
checklist
and
and
try
to
work
out
what
the
expectations
are
in
the
time
frames
so
that
we
can
work
out
these
process
issues,
you
know
it's
to
make
sure
that
our
next
meeting
that
it's
we
kind
of
have
things
in
place
with
the
acknowledgment
that
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
staff
and
concerns
and
there's
some
things
that
little
hiccups
that
are
kind
of
occur
down.
G
The
road
but
I
do
know
that
when
Tom
was
the
Ada
coordinator,
that
we
had
worked
out
this
process
and
it
seemed
like
it
was
running
pretty
smoothly,
so
maybe
getting
his
input
as
well
just
his
experience
and
how
he
managed
this
process,
and
we
just
have
like
a
simple
checklist
with
sort
of
expectations
and
time
frames
where
or
thin
and
over
time,
I
think
things
will
get
a
lot
more
smoother.
B
I
want
it
set
on
record
that
it
takes
me
monitoring
the
city
for
one
week
every
month
because
of
these
meetings
getting
the
work
making
sure
it's
uploaded
properly,
making
sure
nothing's
changed,
making
sure
that
all
of
the
emails
are
responded
to
asking
for
emails
over
and
over
asking
for
things
in
emails
over
and
over
and
over
not
getting
reapplies
necessarily
being
happy
if
I
do
and
it
shouldn't
take
me
with
Tom.
He
was
thanking
me
that
I
was
doing
so
much
work
because
I
do
outline
my
agenda.
B
I
do
itemize
my
packet
items.
I
do
make
it
so
that
it
is
super
easy
to
understand
what
goes
where
what
is
connected
to
what
and
he
was
thinking
and
saying
that
it
was
making
his
job
easier
and
after
then,
once
I
handed
in
the
packet.
That
was,
it
was
done
that
that
was
it.
It
was
one
day
of
work
at
most
and
I
was
done.
B
A
bridge
I
can't
you
I
can't
mute
you
like,
because
I'm
not
a
host.
Okay.
Thank
you
Eli,
so
I
didn't
want
to
talk
over
talking.
So
so
yes,
so
we
had
already
discussed
assistance
with
z
transcript
which
I'm
going
to
need.
B
There
are
other
things
that
the
committee
can
assist
me
with,
but
the
thing
that
would
be
the
most
helpful
is
a
trained
liaison,
and
you
know
helana
you've
learned
a
lot
in
the
last
month:
I'm
not
I'm,
not
putting
you
down
in
any
way,
shape
or
form
you,
you
did
what
you
could
do,
but
the
fact
that
we
had
to
still
go
to
Jeff,
Norris
and
Xavier
I'm.
B
Sorry
I
can't
remember
his
last
name
from
the
city
clerk's
office
to
fix
these
issues
and
they
were
done
in
less
than
72
hours
on
Prime
gov,
which
is
again
against
the
open
meetings.
Act.
It's
supposed
to
be
uploaded
in
complete
and
clear,
and
the
agenda
is
not
supposed
to
have
to
be
re-edited
on
there
again
I
submitted
a
complete,
clear
agenda
and
it
was
not
uploaded
the
way
that
it
that
I
submitted
it
and
it
was
disruptive
to
me.
B
The
first
response
was
basically
oh
well,
it's
just
gonna
have
to
be
that
way
and
I
said
no.
My
disabilities
require
an
agenda
that
meets
my
my
packet
items.
I
number
it
that
way
for
a
reason,
it's
to
be
clear
for
people
with
with
visual
disabilities
and
and
then
after
all
of
that,
then
it
was
eventually.
B
Okay,
so
I'm
going
to
say
that
in
the
in
whenever
I
submit
the
agenda
and
packet
items
it,
it
should
just
be
uploaded
without
issue
there
and
it
hasn't
been
every
single
month,
like
I,
said,
I
have
to
take
a
week
of
my
time
to
check
and
double
check
and
triple
check
and
state
what
the
issues
are
and
state
exactly
how
it
should
be
fixed
and
exactly
what
should
be
uploaded
and
what's
missing,
and
it
shouldn't
be
that
much
of
a
process
I
should
not
have
to
take
a
month
a
week
of
my
life
every
month.
B
To
for
these
meetings
and
I
am
I,
don't
know
how
to
make
it
any
more
clear
as
to
what
I'm
submitting
I
I
listed
out
in
the
email.
It's
the
agenda,
every
I
do
everything.
The
agenda
is
done,
the
packet
items
are
itemized,
I
was
even
willing
to
do
the
minutes.
Like
I,
don't
know
what
more
I'm
supposed
to
be
doing
as
a
chair,
and
my
understanding
is
all
of
those
are
supposed
to
be
staff
duties
for
meetings,
but
here
I
am
volunteering
my
time
so
that
it
helps
me
to
prepare.
J
Does
does
it
sound
like
a
meeting
between
a
separate
of
this
meeting,
a
meeting
between
people
to
between
the
city
and
and
and
Kathleen,
and
whoever
you
know,
I,
guess,
Eli
and
maybe
me,
if
I'm
not
sure
but
anyway,
the
meeting
with
the
bulleted
points
and
and
coming
up
with
a
plan
between
the
city
and
and
the
committee
to
on
on
how
this
should
work
just
to
make
things
easier?
J
F
Thank
you
so
much
Robin
and
chair
a
Woman
by
my
the
the
the
thing
is:
is
that
back
when
Jesse
Guillen
implemented
Prime
gov
he's
gone
from
the
city,
he
was
really
the
only
one
that
knew
it
inside
out.
There's
nobody
in
charge
of
committees.
So
that's
why
there's
trouble
getting
people
on
there
there's
nobody
that
knows
back
in
the
prime
gov.
So
helon
has
been
really
like.
You
know
tapping
into
every
little
bit
of
knowledge.
F
There
is
here
and
getting
training,
which
is
there
isn't
training
available
either
we've
communicated
to
the
city
clerk,
so
I
think
you
know
we're
like
like
chair
said:
there
has
been
a
lot
of
knowledge
gained
in
one
more
month
and
I.
Think
one
more
month
will
continue
to
get
better
and
better
at
it.
But
it's
just
it's
just
a
training,
Gap
and
learning
new
software.
It's
super
complicated.
F
On
the
back
of
that
thing,
it's
like
I,
don't
use
the
back
end
and
not
many
people
do
but
we'll
get
it
we'll
get
there.
F
B
I
think
that
I
would
feel
more
heard.
I
don't
feel
very,
very
hurt,
I'm
sure
that
they
know
I'm
sure
that
everyone
knows
I've
been
very
vocal
but
I,
don't
feel
heard
and
I
don't
feel
listened
to
and
I
feel
like
when
I
have
gone
to
the
city
staff,
not
just
Regina,
not
just
Alona,
not
Danny,
a
city
clerk,
all
kinds
of
people
that
I
have
reached
out
to
and
Geralyn
Cardenas
same
same
thing.
Everyone
just
says
basically
accept
what's
happening,
that's
just
how
it
is.
F
Some
cases
it
is
in
most
cases
they
have
the
same.
You
know
like
in
the
public
works
and
utilities
committee,
where
I'm
also
staffed
these
onto
that
we
have
a
person,
that's
been
facilitating
that
for
years
and
she's
there
right
so
and
it's
it's
a
different
kind
of
committee.
I.
Imagine
other
people
are
stumbling
as
well.
Nobody
has
the
demands
like
this,
though
we
do
not
do
verbatim
minutes
for
any
committees.
We'd
only
do
motions,
that's
our
standard
across
all
committees,
even
for
Council
committees.
F
We
don't
do
any
kinds
of
transcripts
or
verbatims.
It's
just
motions.
We
use
all
the
standards
that
I've
indicated
to
the
chair
about
how
we
put
our
agendas
together.
So
everybody
complies
with
that.
So
it's
a
lot
more
straightforward
for
other
committees
too,
and
then
you
know
helona
and
I
are
both
new,
but
I.
Think
so.
F
I
think
what
I
hear
chair
Gish
asking
for
is
that
sends
us
the
agenda
and
we
get
it
posted
and
there's
no
snap
booze
of
like
oh,
this
isn't
showing
up
or
that
isn't
showing
up
or
something
like
that,
and
she
doesn't
want
to
hear
from
me
about
feedback
on
the
open
meetings,
act
and
I'm
trying
to
leave
that
out
as
long
as
we
just
don't
take
actions
that
aren't
noticed
so
I
think
I
think
we
can
get
there
Helena
do
you
think
you
can
get
there
next.
B
F
F
That's
really
the
bottom
line,
so
I
just
wanted
to
confirm
with
helona
that
she
thinks
that,
maybe
by
next
month
we
will
be
able
to
get
support
to
get
the
agenda
posted
or
do
you
think
there's
any
other
things
that
we
need
a
lot
of
besides
just
trying
to
continue
to
learn
from
whoever
will
teach
us
about
this
software.
C
Well,
Jeff
had
fixed
the
two
issues
that
had
come
up:
I
I,
don't
have
control
over
the
programming
or
the
software.
So
when
I
complete
something
and
I
upload,
something
I
myself
expect
it
to
just
work
and
when
it
doesn't
work,
then
I
have
to
rely
on
somebody
else
to
fix
it.
For
me,
but
I
mean
it's:
it's
a
real
simple
thing
to
upload
the
agenda
and
the
items
item
attachment
I
mean
that's
pretty
straightforward,
it's
easy!
But
it's
how
Prime
gov
works.
C
The
programming
or
the
code
in
there
is
very
complex
and
you
have
access
to
things
that
maybe
you
shouldn't
have
access
to
like
to
delete
or
edit.
And
then,
if
you
make
that
change,
it
affects
something
somewhere
else.
But
you
know
there
is
no
training.
C
I've
asked
they
said
they
had
a
meeting
about
a
month
ago.
I
wasn't
invited
it's
just
kind
of
like
word
of
mouth
or
you
know,
information
passed
along
which
can
change
if
it's
not
structured,
so
I'm
struggling
as
well.
F
Madam
chair
the
there's,
a
lot
of
internal
staff
and
it's
not
our
responsibility.
I
could
ask
I
have
talked
to
City
attorney.
Actually
so,
there's
kind
of
a
divided
responsibility
in
the
city
attorney's
office
is
Jeff
Norris,
who
does
some
of
it
and
then
in
the
I'm,
not
sure
where
the
rest
of
it
lives.
F
I
have
talked
to
City
attorney
about
it.
She
believes
that
Jeff
knows
everything
that
he
needs
to
know
and
so
we're
just
really
trying
to
get
a
comprehensive
training
from
from
our
staff,
because
it's
not
just
it's
not
really
just
it's.
How
we've
got
this
offer
configured
right.
We
use
it
in
a
particular
way,
so
we'd
need
internal
training
and
we'd
continue
to
yeah.
So
I,
don't
know,
Alona
says
you
know
she
posts
it
and
when
something
happens
and
then
Jeff
helps
us.
F
Hopefully,
we've
got
all
the
bugs
out
over
the
last
couple.
B
So
we've
been
basically
discussing
items,
eight
A
and
B
kind
of
coherently
in
the
same
discussion,
which
is
fine
there
if
they're
related
and
so
Eli
I
wanted
to
know
if
you
wanted
to
go
over
fairly
quickly.
The
your
item-
seven
sorry.
B
B
So
item
eight
c
is
continued
discussion
of
appropriate
City
placement
for
Ada
coordinator
and
the
mayor's
committee
on
disability
Regina.
Has
there
been
any
updates
or
work
being
done
to
secure
the
change
in
placement
of
the
Ada
coordinator?
I
know
we
had
discussed
different
places
different
placements
for
it,
including
possibly
a
new
department
for
equity
and
inclusion,
or
diversity
of
some
kind.
If
that
were
to
occur,
we
had
discussed
community
or
constituent
services.
F
I'm,
mad
I'm
sure
I
have
an
update.
You
don't
yeah,
so
I
think
you
know
the
idea
that
that
has
been
discussed
and
kind
of
liked
is
this
office
of
equity
and
inclusion
and
accessibility,
and
actually
the
chart
committee
that
which
evaluated
the
Obelisk
issue
is
recommending
the
establishment
of
that
type
of
an
office.
So
the
governing
body
will
be
deliberating
that
possibility,
as
they
also
will
be
deliberating
it
with
in
the
context
of
chart,
as
well
as
in
the
context
of
the
fiscal
year
24
budget
I.
F
Think
one
of
the
biggest
hurdles
is
that
this
position
is
paid
for
out
of
capital
funds
in
public
works,
and
so
that
would
have
to
be
another
position
funded
out
of
general
fund,
which
is
kind
of
a
it's
like.
A
hundred
thousand
dollar
hit
right
with
Benefits,
so
it's
significant,
but
governing
body
will
be
considering
the
establishment
of
a
new
sort
of
office
or
Department
and
and
the
budgetary
impacts
of
that
over
the
next
few
months
until
May.
B
And
then,
if
that
were
to
move
forward,
I
know
you
had
mentioned
that
it
would
take
possibly
six
months,
so
it
might
be
over
the
summer
that
it
might
transition
to
a
new
department,
but
that
would
be
like
the
earliest.
Is
that
still
would
that
still
with
with
what's
going
on
currently?
Would
that
still
be
a
possibility,
or
is
it
still
delayed
further.
F
There's
no
way
to
tell
the
timing:
I
I,
think
I
mean
I.
Suppose
if
it
got
established
in
the
budget,
which
would
be
the
place,
it
would
get
established
right.
That
goes
into
effect,
June
1st
the
new
budget,
and
then
you
know
I,
don't
know
how
they're
going
to
do
it.
F
If
there's
a
body
in
the
position
and
then
they
have
to
find
different
funding
for
it
to
move
it,
and
so
we
don't
know
all
the
moving
parts
and
how
that
would
look
but
I'm
not
sure
what
the
time
I
would
be
I'm
getting
maybe
has
more
info.
I
Madam
chair
the
timeline:
is
it
just
like
appointments?
It
could
take
a
while,
for
instance,
in
last
year's
budget
was
placed
a
police
substation
for
the
city
hall
and
we're
just
starting
to
get
that
set
up.
So
if
it
gets
put
into
this
next
budget,
it
will
take
time
to
set
up
everything,
hire
the
staff
and
get
everything
moved
in,
so
it
it
could
take
a
year
after
it's
approved
through
the
governing
body.
B
B
So
then,
that's
I,
guess
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
how
we
proceed
because,
like
part
of
proceeding
and
knowing
is,
is
knowing
what
we're
going
to
need
to
be
doing
and
knowing
how
we're
going
to
be.
You
know
who
we're
going
to
be
working
with
how
we're
going
to
be
working
with
them,
where
we're
going
to
be,
and
so
I
know
that
Regina
with
the
changes
that
she
had
made
to
the
Ada
coordinator
position,
it
still
is
over
the
entire
city,
which
is
great,
but
at
the
same
time
hierarchically.
It's
not.
B
You
know
like
we're
still
under
Public
Works,
and
so
you
know
we
still
then
are
limited
in
our
interaction
with
the
city
like
if
we
were
in
constituent
Services,
we
would
have
it's
a
different.
We
would
just
be
in
a
different
department
or
who
we
would
be
interacting
with
on
a
regular
basis
would
be
constituent
services,
not
Public.
Works
is
what
I'm
saying
so
it
would
affect
how
we
are
doing
our
work
as
well.
B
I
And
and
it's
the
the
old
saying
that
we're
building
the
plane
as
we're
trying
to
apply
it
but
right,
that's
where
we're
at
so
as
we
move
forward,
we
continue
with
where
we're
at
and
as
changes
come.
We
will
work
with
the
committee
to
make
sure
everything
is
connected
properly.
Okay,.
B
I
I
hope
so
because
I'm,
like
you
know,
I,
can
say
that
as
a
chair
you
know,
like
I,
said
we're
supposed
to
be,
and
we
were.
We
were
really
enjoying.
You
know
what
we
were
doing
as
far
as
like.
How
can
we
make
affordable
housing
more
accessible?
How
can
we
make
Transportation
more
accessible?
How
can
we
have?
B
They
felt
really
fun
supportive
ideas
and
thoughts
and
and
things
to
improve
the
city,
and
here
we
are
literally
re-establishing
the
Americans
with
Disabilities
Act
in
in
the
city,
and
we
shouldn't
be
having
to
take
all
this
time
and
effort
and
stress
to
do
this.
It
just
should
not
be
happening
and,
and
so
and
I
know
that
the
community
can
feel
it.
The
community
sees
it.
B
You
know
people
have
talked
to
me
about
it
and
said
they're,
not
surprised
by
what
they
see
and
see
happening
in
the
city
that
this
is
going
on,
that
it's,
it's
not
a
shock
to
them
and
that's
sad.
That
is
really
really
sad
and
I've.
Never
seen
it
be
like
this
before
now
and
so
and
I'm
sure
you
haven't
either
so
it's
I
don't
know
I
I,
just
it
just
should
just
not
be
happening.
B
I
F
G
B
The
city
on
the
ice,
removal,
pamphlet
and
all
of
that.
G
Yeah
yeah,
so
this
was
a
project
that
we
started
last
year
with
Kendra
and
I,
and
we
developed
a
one-page
one-pager
for
cleaning
up
snow
and
ice
off
sidewalks
and
parking
spaces
and
making
sure
that
public
and
private
sector
was
aware
that
this
was
something
that
was
required
under
the
American
Disabilities
Act,
and
we
shared
that
and
at
the
same
time,
Tom
had
also
been
working
on
something
very
similar.
G
So
we
kind
of
combined
our
forces
and
we
were
able
to
get
out
a
one-pager
to
the
community
and
in
fact,
Brian
Williams
actually
sent
it
out
as
one
of
the
ready,
Santa
Fe
alerts
that
went
out.
So
that
was
really
nice
and
then
for
this
year.
We
wanted
to
make
some
changes
to
the
form
to
the
one
pager
and
so
I
reached
out
back
around
right
around
the
first
snowfall
in
November
and
I
got
a
little
bit
of
traction
and
it's
it
sounded
like
they
were
working
on
it.
G
But
then
I
recently
had
a
conversation
with
the
city's
communication
person.
I
forgot
her
name.
It
was
very,
very
brief,
but
she
was
very
supportive
and
she
said
she
was
working
on
the
one
pager
and
she
wanted
to.
She
had
some
accessibility
questions,
so
I
gave
her
some
tips
on
how
to
make
sure
that
it
was
an
accessible
document
and
then
also
some
suggestions
on
the
format
of
it.
Some
of
the
text
and
also
the
image
on
it.
G
I
haven't
heard
back,
and
that
was
about
two
weeks
ago
that
I
talked
to
her,
but
I
assume
it'll,
probably
snow
again.
So
it
would
be
great
if
we
could
get
that
final
product,
get
it
posted
online
and
then
have
it
available
to
the
community.
If
there
is
no
expect
did,
or
there
is
a
large
snowstorm,
we
could
include
that
in
that
Santa
Fe
alert.
That
goes
out
just
to
make
sure
that
people
know
to
be
aware
of
their
obligations
to
clear
snow
again.
Private
and
public
sector.
G
So
I
see
it
as
an
opportunity.
I
haven't
heard
back.
The
communications
person
I
spoke
to
was
very
kind
and
she
seemed
very
open
to
my
feedback.
F
Actually,
she
sent
you
the
final
on
the
24th
of
January
I'm,
showing
Eli
it's
Michaela
beggins.
She
sent
it
to
you
on
Tuesday
the
24th
hi
Eli.
Thank
you
for
taking
the
time
to
meet
with
me.
We've
Incorporated
your
suggestions
and
we
will
post
this
revised
version.
Once
you
give
approval.
J
F
F
F
E
B
B
That
stated
that
that
was
being
done
and
that
we
are
moving
forward
with
that
notice
to
the
public
about
obligations
for
snow
removal
and
Ice
removal,
and
that
also
applies
to
the
city-
and
there
is
a
continual
patch
of
ice
in
crosswalks
right
off
of
the
Plaza
downtown
I
will
I
will
send
it
to
you
again
Regina,
but
it
is
always
there.
B
It
has
been
there
since
it
last
snowed
and
it
is
a
danger
to
the
general
public
because
you
can't
see
it
until
you
are
on
it
and
and
so
and
I
know
people
have
fallen
because
it
was
stated
in
our
meeting
last
year
that
someone
slipped
on
that
ice
and
that
is
an
absolute
danger.
B
So
something
needs
to
be
done,
but
I
will
send
you
that
information.
It's
literally
right
off
the
Plaza
yeah.
B
So
I
just
have
a
really
quick
comment
about.
We
had
requested
for
Americans
with
Disabilities
compliance
to
be
added
to
the
city
web
page
and
it
was
under
one
section
which
it
was
under
living
here,
but
it
was
not
added
under
your
government
and
it,
an
ADA
coordinator
was
not
added
under
your
City
team,
and
so
I
was
wondering
if
there
was
a
reason
for
that.
If
there
was
a
discussion
that
took
place
anywhere.
B
Okay,
well
we'll
be
dealing
with
that
and
then,
but
thank
you
for
letting
me
know
that
that
was
the
city
clerk,
because
I
think
some
training
needs
to
be
done
with
the
city
clerk
to
train
her
on
ADA
compliance
and
understanding
disabilities,
because
so
far
she
has
not
responded
properly
to
anything
that
we
have
sent
her
regarding
requests
for
accommodations
or
understanding
disability
needs,
and
so
we
will
be
working
on
that.
So
thank
you
Regina
for
that
information.
B
Let's
see
the
other
thing
with
you.
Regina
was
that
and
Robin
tell
me
if
you
don't
want
to
discuss
this,
it's
fine
with
with.
Regarding
the
city
website,
there
was
a
meeting
that
was
supposed
to
include
Jessie
Armijo
that
was
scheduled
without
Jesse
Armijo
and
that
was
discussed
to
include
Jesse
in
order
to
facilitate
improved
ADA
compliance
with
the
city
website
and
Robin.
If
you
want
to
give
more
details
or
we
can
move
on
one
of
the
two.
J
Oh
well,
I
know
we
had
met.
Let's
see
who
was
it?
It
was
John
Blair,
Regina,
Nathan
gum
myself
and
Jesse.
Armijo
Nathan
talked
about
the
cart
and
provided
information
to
Regina
on
cart.
Jesse
had
planned
to
work
with
the
city
I.T
person
such
that
she
is
which,
which
I
say
that
because,
as
I
understand,
it's
more
of
a
a
receptionist
or
a
clerk
and
not
really
trained
in
in
website
design.
But
I,
don't
recall
exactly
what
you
had
said
about
that
Regina
last
we
talked
in
that
meeting.
J
It
was
that
you,
you
were
going
to
connect
Jesse
with
this
person
so
that
they
could
start
working
on
the
website.
And
then
then
you
said
you
required
the
meeting
minutes
and
we
had
that
discussion
about.
Well
there
weren't
really
minutes,
but
I
sent
you
an
update,
updated
version
summary
of
what
we
talked
about
and
you
were
going
to
share
the
contact
then.
J
But
then
you
sent
an
email
saying
that
you
couldn't
focus
on
that
right
now
that
you
didn't
have
the
bandwidth
to
do
that,
because
the
person
that
he
was
going
to
work
with
was
helping
with
the
snow
flyer
and
or
the
ice
removal,
flyer
I
think,
but
also
with
the
hiring
of
a
new
Ada
coordinator.
So
I
don't
really
know
where
it
stands
from
there.
J
Jesse
still
stands
ready
to
help
provide
guidance
on
the
website
and
making
it
more
accessible
and
probably
even
on
ways
to
to
help
with
prime
dot
prime
prime
gov
or
whatever
that
you
know
Jesse's
just
great
at
all
of
that
stuff,
so
I,
that's
the
last
I've
heard
is
that
there
just
isn't
time
to
work
with
Jesse
on
all
of
this
and
and
I.
Don't
know
anything
more
past
that.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I'm,
close
that's
a
very
close
sequence
of
events,
Robin
and
I'm.
Sorry,
if
I
misspoke,
what
I
needed
to
do
was
I
was
really
hoping
to
get
that
summary
of
the
meeting
that
we
had
as
John
Blair
and
I
both
said
we're
super
high
level
people
and
there
was
so
much
technical
detail
provided
at
that
meeting.
F
So
that
was
going
to
really
help
me
like
click
through
it
and
what
I
told
what
I
said
was
I
need
to
meet
with
the
director
over
the
web
and
get
this
scheduled
as
a
project
that
will
get
their
attention
in
time.
So
I
have
spoken
to
them.
We
are
where
Aaron
is
now
on
our
Ada
coordinator
interview
panel,
since
that
that
person
who
updates
the
web
will
be
a
partner
right
all
along
and
making
sure
that
we
meet
requirements
and
she'll.
F
So
yeah
we're
working
on
getting
our
available
to
work
on
that
project
with
Jesse.
There
was
not
a
meeting
schedule
that
he
wasn't
invited
to
just
to
clarify.
There
has
not
been
a
meeting
scheduled
yet.
J
So
is
there
something
do
you
want
do
do
I
need
to
provide
Jesse
with
an
update
or
what
he
can
expect
at
this
point,
or
do
you
have
a
contact
information
we
can
share
with
him
or.
F
I,
don't
I,
don't
the
the
I've
spoken
with
the
director
and
she's
gonna
make
it
give
me
of
when
she
can
make
her
team
available
to
take
this
on?
Okay
and
I
was
wondering,
does?
Is
he
already
going
through
our
website
and
making
recommendations
of.
J
No
he's
not
done
anything
because
he
really
needs
to
to
work
with
someone
on
the
city.
Side
to
I
mean
he's
looked
at
it
a
couple
times,
I
think,
but
but
I
mean
he
works
for
a
whole
different
agency
than
than
I
do
and
so
I
had
brought
him
in,
because
there
were
issues
and
concerns
with
the
website
so
that
he
could
kind
of
help
with
that
and
then.
J
F
Got
what
I
got
from
Eli
was
that
he
thought
it
was
generally
pretty
good.
That
contrast
was
good,
that
the
new
website
was
a
lot
better
I.
J
F
F
B
J
Well,
I'm
glad
this
came
up
because
I
you
know
last,
like
I,
said
last
I
heard
everything
was
just
kind
of
at
a
standstill
because
there
wasn't
a
bandwidth
for
it.
So
now
I'll
go
ahead
and
email,
Jesse
back
and
say
cool
reach
out
to
Regina,
and
hopefully
things
can
move
forward
from
there.
What.
J
B
And
then
I
need
to
skip
to
item
8G,
really
quick,
because
I
need
to
ask
Regina
what
are
updates
on
the
public
rights
of
way
and
transition
plan.
B
What
has
been
happening
with
that
since
May,
the
Tom
Graham
said
that
he
had
finalized
it,
but
that
he
didn't
upload
it
to
the
gis
system
because
he
hadn't
received
training
I,
don't
know
if
that's
still
true,
but
that
was
the
last
knowledge
that
I
had
from
him
and
so
I'm
wondering
in
addition
to
what's
happening
with
the
transition
plan
that
was
completed
by
Tom.
B
F
Oh,
thank
you.
That's
a
regular
part
of
our
business.
We
do
every
single
day,
so
we
have
ADA
compliance
requirements.
Of
course,
whenever
we
pave
a
roadway,
for
instance,
all
of
the
sidewalks
get
their
curb
ramps
and
the
rumble
pads
and
any
other
improvements
that
need
to
be
to
be
ADA
Compliant.
Whenever
we
do
work
in
buildings,
we
improve
the
Ada
access
when
we
build
new
buildings,
they're
fully
Ada
accessible.
F
B
F
We'll
need
funding
for
that
significant
funding.
We
are
planning,
we
usually
do
a
GRT
bond
for
funding
those
kinds
of
activities
every
two
years,
but
we
haven't
done
one
for
20
since
2018
due
to
covid
we're
expecting
one
this
fall.
F
F
I
believe
so
that's
right,
funding
and
then
we'd
have
to
do
procurement
for
a
contractor
to
update
the
plans
and
then
probably
I,
don't
know
probably
take
almost
a
year
to
beginning
to
end
to
get
them
done.
So
sorry,
starting
the
fall
and
and
in
the
fall
it's
a
rough
estimate
go.
J
Ahead
Robin,
so
you
know
again
kind
of
going
back
to
some
of
the
issues
we've
seen
I'm
wondering
if
it's
possible
I
know
nothing
can
be
like
drastically
changed
overnight
and
how
the
process
operates.
J
But
I
do
think
that
seven
to
eight
months
to
address
an
accessibility
issue
is
really
severely
excessive
and
so
I'm
wondering
if,
if
moving
forward,
if
there
can,
you
know
kind
of
be
an
open
mind
and
some
some
maybe
brainstorming
about
how
to
speed
that
process
up
to
where
it's
it
doesn't
take
that
long
for
something
to
be
addressed.
H
F
Both
actually
thank
you
for
asking,
so
the
city
has
a
certain
level
of
requirements,
so
certainly
for
All
City
owned
buildings.
They
have
100,
accessibility
and
then
privately
owned.
Buildings
have
different
requirements
for
compliance
that
are
enforced
and
insured
by
our
land,
use
Department,
I'm.
H
Wondering
if,
when
you
say
accessible,
most
people
only
think
of
mobility
issues,
I,
don't
see
any
buildings
being
built
unless
I'm
standing
there
with
hearing
accessibility,
Madam,
chair,
I'm,
sorry
it
seems
like
architecturally.
They
only
look
at
the
how
the
building
looks
and
functions
visually
nobody's
thinking
about
Acoustics
or
accessibility
for
hard
of
hearing
people.
Is
that
really
looked
at
in
every
building
that
the
city
builds.
F
Thank
you,
madam
chair
and
Pam.
That's
a
great
question.
We
have
recently
started
including
hearing
Loops.
So
now,
there's
one
in
the
on
the
council
chambers.
There's
one
in
the.
B
Yeah
so
Regina
I'll
I'll,
explain
so
part
of
the
reason
why
we
can't
hold
meetings
in
city
council
chambers
is
because
the
loop
system
goes
down
so
often
that
it's
gone
down
during
our
meeting.
It's
gone
down
right
before
our
meeting
and
poor
Pam
had
to
go
there
for
hours
ahead
of
our
meeting
to
work
with
maintenance
to
get
it
up
and
running
to
make
sure
it
was
working.
B
And
then
it
just
went
down
halfway
through
the
meeting,
and
so
it's
not
even
like,
like
while
I
can
say
yes
there's
an
effort
to
get
it
set
up.
The
system
is
not
functional
and
and
I
actually
received
an
email
in
this
interim
which
I
can
forward
you.
B
But
if
it's
not,
it's
not
really
you're,
not
really
the
person
but
from
the
loop
system
saying
that
they
that
they
wanted
to
upgrade
it
and-
and
there
was
no
one
to
contact
because
Tom
wasn't
the
person
anymore
and
they
were
saying
well
when
we
get
a
full-time
Ada
coordinator,
we'll
we'll
get
them
in
place,
but
I'm
going
to
send
it
to
you,
because
there
was
there's.
No
one
else.
No
I
totally.
H
I
tried
to
access
the
loop
in
the
city
council
chambers,
not
just
as
a
member
of
the
McD,
but
as
a
member
of
the
public
who
spoke
at
the
latest
city
council
meeting
and
I
have
a
list
here
of
things
that
made
it
not
only
inaccessible
for
where
we
sit,
but
as
the
public
sits
and
I
know
who
did
the
install
20
years
ago,
Romy
Pierce
was
up
working
well,
then
she's,
just
speaking
on
behalf
of
being
called
in
to
evaluate
that
Loop,
she
said
it's
very
old.
It
was
a
rim,
a
Perimeter
Loop.
H
F
Please,
yes
thank
you
and
any
other
feedback.
You
have
Pam.
Thank
you.
So
much
I
actually
was
here
when
we
installed
that
Loop.
So
it
wasn't
that
long
ago
we
updated
it.
It
was
my
facilities
director,
Michael,
Rodriguez
and
I
got
that
done,
but
apparently
we
didn't
get
it
done
very
well.
So
I'd
love
to
get
your
feedback
and
and
the
bid
for
the
new
one.
H
Thank
you,
and
so
there's
a
loop
and
supposedly
in
the
auditorium
of
the
folk
art
museum.
That's
non-functional
is
that
do
I
have
to
go
to
the
city
or
do
I
go
directly
to
the
doc.
H
So
with
each
loop,
I
have
to
discover
who
owns
the
building
and
try
to
make
a
request
through
you
if
it's
a
city-owned
building,
if
it's
a
museum
building,
if
the
buildings
like
the
history
museum
was
built
without
any
accommodation
for
hard
of
hearing
people,
it's
just
me
going
around
constantly
seeing
if
it
works
and
if
they
ever
they
say
well,
we
didn't
have
money
for
it
and
I.
Think
well,
did
you
think
maybe
of
cutting
the
bathrooms.
A
F
Than
thank
you
for
bringing
that
up,
I'd
love
to
get
your
feedback
and
I
can
definitely
get
to
work.
On
that
you
know
we
do.
Capital
funding
is
non-existent
at
this
point.
It's
been
so
long
since
we've
done
a
bond,
but
I
don't
know
what
the
price
is,
but
if
it's
like
20,
grand
or
less
I
can
probably
scrape
it
up.
H
F
H
J
B
Regarding
cart
and
I
want
to
acknowledge
that
we
do
have
cart,
Services
right
now,
I
haven't
been
able
to
follow
them.
I
don't
have
I,
don't
have
it
on
right
now,
but
I
will
look
for
the
transcript
and
see
I'm
sure
it's
better
and
I.
I
want
to
thank
her.
Our
cart
stenographer
for
being
here
and
the
time
being
taken
again.
I
want
to
say
we
tried
since
July
12th,
to
get
cart
services
and
there
was
nothing
in
place.
There
was
nowhere
to
go.
B
F
Public
Works
is
a
I'm,
a
really
great
place
to
go
I
had
we
set
up
contracts
all
the
time.
I
know
how
to
admit.
I've
got
a
big
budget.
F
B
Ahead,
thank
you
and,
and
so
I
have
July
12th
and
September
19th
September
19th.
We
submitted
it
to
the
mayor
directly
and
to
Danny
Mackey
and
then
ever
since
then.
Well,
since
October,
when
Regina
took
on
the
interim
Ada
coordinator
position
herself
on
top
of
her
five
jobs,
she
I
guess
has
been
trying
to
work
on
it.
I
guess
to
me
the
most
pressing
time
has
been
in
the
last
few
weeks,
but
between
October
and
December.
B
I
I
didn't
really
see
her
working
on
it
that
much,
but
there
was
a
lot
of
emails
back
and
forth.
My
issue,
mostly,
is
that
the
city
clerk
is
identified
as
the
person
you
go
to
for
accommodations
in
public
meetings
and
she
has
no
understanding
of
how
to
provide
accommodations
for
people.
B
From
my
experience
of
trying
to
get
accommodations
from
her,
my
own
self,
and
also
for
these
meetings,
and
and
so
we
need
to
accurately
identify
who
you
need
to
go
to
for
accommodations
and
public
meetings,
because
it
is
not
the
city
clerk
and
so
that's
my
comment
on
cart,
Services,
I'm,
glad
that
we
have
them
and
we
can
see
what
what
the
difference
is.
Pam
would
you
do
you
have
a
comment.
B
Just
making
sure
Eli
you
were
part
of
this
with
me
if
you
want
to
go
ahead
and
make
a
statement
about
having
cart
Services.
Finally,
and
what
your
thoughts
are.
G
Yeah.
Thank
you
madam
chair
I,
want
to
thank
the
city
for
providing
cart,
but
it
was
quite
a
journey.
I
know
that
we
Catherine.
A
G
Myself
spent
some
time
drafting
a
letter
that
we
had
sent
and
we
were
hoping
that
the
city
would
be
a
bit
more
responsive,
but
I
do
feel
like
there's
progress
made
and
we
do
have
cart
now.
So
I
want
to
celebrate
that
and
thank
the
city,
but
hopefully
next
time
when
there
are
other
kinds
of
similar,
reasonable
accommodation
requests
that
we
don't
have
to
wait
as
long
and
go
through
all
the
effort
of
drafting
letters
and
emails.
G
So
hopefully
we
can
iron
this
out
as
we
go
as
we
move
forward
so
again,.
B
H
I'm
I
want
to
be
absolutely
clear
of
the
difference.
What
you're
calling
cart
online
here
and
what's
closed
captioning
like
we
have
a
captioner
in
her
name
and
I'm
using
it?
Are
you
talking
about
in
this
Zoom
meeting
or
do
you
talking
about
in
city,
council
chambers
when
there
are
meetings?
What,
where
is
this
our.
H
B
B
G
Yeah,
that's
a
kind
of
speech
recognition,
and
so
it's
gonna
have
a
relatively
low
level
of
confidence,
and
it
won't
be
that
accurate.
H
Size
of
the
print
is
so
tiny
that
I
had
to
move
to
a
screen
and
sit
directly
under
it,
which
made
it
very
difficult
for
me
to
lip.
Read
the
loop
was
inaudible.
It
was
a
mess
and
I
guess
that's.
My
priority
is
to
get
cart
in
that
facility
and
at
all
meetings
and
when
they
project
it,
with
audio
and
visual
that
it's
readable
and
the
loop
is
functional.
Yeah,
it's
it's
I,
don't
want
to
be
the
one
that
prevents
us
from
meeting
in
person.
H
We
might
I,
don't
want
to
see
everybody
not
attend.
City
Council
meetings
with
important
Ada,
sometimes
compliance
issues,
and
you
can't
even
access
it
unless
you're
really
determined.
But
thank
you
for
this
yeah.
This.
G
G
And
this
is
the
success
of
cart
here.
But
we
want
to
think
about
how
we
can
expand
that
to
other
meetings.
It
doesn't
have
to
just
be
for
the
mayor's
committee.
It
can
be
for
other
meetings
as
well.
B
Yeah
and
I
think
that
it's
incredibly
important
because
for
City
Council
meetings,
especially
for
governing
body
meetings,
especially
because
how
do
we
participate?
How
does
that
they
need
everyone's
voices?
They
need,
like
I,
said
in
in
an
earlier
meeting
that
people
who
cannot
go
out,
who
don't
have
transportation,
who
can't
leave
their
homes,
who,
for
whatever
reason
it
doesn't
matter
what
the
reason
is,
they
should
be
able
to
participate
in
those
meetings
and
the
same
issue
for
people
who
have
hearing
difficulties
or
who
are
deaf
or
who
are
blind.
B
I
know
that
in
one
of
the
council
meetings,
like
I
had
stated
in
an
earlier
meeting
that
someone
had
to
wait
throughout
the
entire
meeting.
It
was.
It
was
over
an
hour.
It
was
almost
two
hours
and
for
the
for
public
comments
and
that
poor
person
stated
during
the
meeting.
B
The
first
comment
from
Zoom
that
the
city
clerk
had
not
activated
captions
during
the
meeting
and
that
they
had
no
idea
what
was
happening
for
that
two
hours
and
that
to
me
and
and
meanwhile
the
city,
clerk
and
staff
at
the
and
governing
body
were
there
having
all
kinds
of
fun
and
laughing
and
and
meanwhile
they
were
ignoring
an
incredibly
important
Ada
accommodation
to
include
people
with
disabilities.
In
this
meeting
and
and
so
I
noted
that
down
and
I'm
using
that
as
an
example,
an
ongoing
example,
because
that
shouldn't
be
happening.
B
H
Was
just
gonna,
add
I,
think
it's
an
education
issue,
I,
don't
think
people
deliberately?
No,
no,
it
was
yeah,
it
was.
It
was
just
they
just
as
Regina
said,
never
thought
of
it
when
you
are
making
an
accessible
building.
Well,
does
that
mean
just
Mobility
accessibility
or
are
there
other
disabilities
that
really
under
the
law
are
totally
ignore
because
of
lack
of
Education?
They
don't
know.
G
For
new
construction,
there
are
the
Ada
standards.
Do
require
assistive
technology
for
listening
as
part
of
the
standards
so
for
new
construction.
Anything
after
1992.
You
are
going
to
have
those
requirements,
but
it
doesn't
stop
the
city
from
going
above
and
beyond
what
the
Ada
standards
require
as
well.
So
the
standards
are
the
minimum,
but
of
course
the
city
can
always
do
more
and
they
should
make
sure
that
their
services
are
accessible.
G
B
So
I
need
to
hold
a
vote
to
extend
the
meeting
for
five
minutes
to
go
over
five
or
ten
minutes
to
go
over
the
rest
of
the
agenda
because
we
are
now
at
two
hours
and
so
otherwise
I
can
just
call
it
a
meeting.
It
depends
on
if
we
have
Forum
or
not,
we
do
have
Quorum
with
Kendra
Eli
and
Aurora.
Definitely
but
Pam.
B
You
are
also
a
voting
member,
so
may
I
have
a
motion
to
approve
I'll,
say
10
minutes,
but
I'm
not
expecting
it
to
be
10
minutes
to
approve
an
additional
10
minutes
of
time
to
finish
the
agenda
for
today's
meeting.
Is
there
a
second
second.
C
May
I
ask
who
what's.
G
B
Let's
see
okay,
so
item
8f
I
feel
like
that
was
addressed
earlier.
It
is
continued
requests
for
updates
to
process
new
members
in
a
point
interested
current
members,
we'll
see
what
the
process
is
going
forward.
B
D
B
Yeah
I
have
I,
actually
have
some
comments
about
my
mom's
process
to
get
her
senior
van.
No,
it's
actually
senior
Paratransit
card
renewed
because
it
expires,
and
we
we've
last
processed
it
like
in
2020,
and
it's
already
expiring.
It's
kind
of
weird,
so
I
have
some
questions
about
why
a
senior
ride
card
would
expire
at
all
and
need
to
be
renewed
at
all.
B
I
could
see
them
making
them
like
sending
out
a
an
application
saying
if
you
still
need
this,
please
let
us
know,
but
the
like
to
check
in
to
make
sure
that
the
person
is
still
there
still
needing
services
and
you're
not
taking
up
space
for
no
reason,
but
but
the
fact
that
her
card
expired
and
they
have
to
go.
Take
another
picture
and
but
she's
like
she's
over
65
she's,
not
gonna,
like
that's,
not
gonna
change.
So
well.
If
it's,
if.
D
It's
the
senior
senior
card
yeah,
they
updates
they
they
check
in
with
you
once
a
year
if
they
can
and
they
ask
you
social
social
questions.
You
know.
Are
you
able
to
clean
your
house
right
all
that
kind
of
stuff?
Now
the
the
disability
van
Paratransit
I
thought
they
had
permanent
some
permanent
cards.
By
now
they
don't
I.
B
Thought
not
not
as
of
two
years
ago
when,
when
we
last
did
it,
it
was
2020..
It
was
during
the
pandemic.
So
we
had.
We
got
permission
because
she
didn't
want
to
go
in
using
the
bus
and
everything
during
the
height
of
the
pandemic,
and
so
we
got
permission
to
submit
a
photograph,
her
updated
picture,
and
then
they
put
that
on
a
card
and
mailed
it,
which
was
very
kind
and
and
very
accommodating
but
yeah.
But
it's
expired
again.
So
she's,
like
you
know,
why
is
it?
Why
is
the
card?
B
Expiring
is
my
question
you
know
like
why
like
I
could
see
them
sending
a
new
application
and
saying
please
renew
it
with
us.
If
you
still
need
these
services,
but
the
card
itself
costs
money
and
time
and
the
ability
to
get
to
the
office
to
take
a
picture
and
all
of
that,
and
so
it
to
me
it's
like
for
a
senior
who's
not
going
to
get
any
younger.
B
B
D
D
B
Yeah
so
anyway,
I
wanted
to
bring
that
up.
B
H
I
can
just
mention
that
there
are
two
house
bills
that
deal
with
Muffler
noise
caused
by
Mufflers
that
make
noise
that
instead
of
muffling,
so
that
would
result
in
ex
registrations
linked
to
car
inspections,
and
you
would
include
Mufflers
functioning
Mufflers.
The
other
is
a
house
bill
concerning
the
use
of
noise
cameras
to
free
up
the
police
from
having
to
follow
the
strict
guidelines
of
the
noise
ordinance
with
handheld
fix
cameras
and
be
in
the
right
place
at
the
right
time.
A
H
Inspections
because
people
alter
their
mufflers
and
there's
a
new
breed
in
town.
It
is
not
car
culture,
it's
not
having
fun.
With
your
high
school
buddies
cruising
the
plaza
it's
deliberate
zooming
through
neighborhoods
in
the
middle
of
the
night
and
excessive
disturbances
around
hotels
and
residential
neighborhoods.
It's
it's
an
intentional
and
they're,
not
thinking,
maybe
grandma
can't
sleep,
there's
a
demographic
teens
to
about
age
27..
H
So
there
are
counselors
who
experienced
the
fun
of
high
school
noise
making
on
the
Plaza
I,
don't
know
how
many
decades
ago,
but
they
want
to
maintain
the
status
as
they
see
it
and
saw
it.
So
we
got
a
hundred
dollar
fine.
Now
we
used
to
have
to
pay
25
for
a
noise
violation.
I
don't
know
that
there
ever
were
any,
but
now
the
fines
are
a
hundred
and
more
going
up
to
250
and
500
for
repeated
offenders.
B
Thank
you
for
that
update
Pam
and
the
information
I
didn't
know
about
that.
So
thank
you
and
then
is
there
any
other
subcommittee
reports?
B
If
there's
not
the
next,
eight
Matters
from
this
Ayla
go
ahead.
Yeah.
G
Man
sure
real,
quick,
just
we'll
provide
a
more
detailed
update
next
meeting,
but
we
have
had
some
conversations
with
the
city
of
Santa
Fe,
emergency
management
manager,
around
access
and
functional
needs,
and
there's
been
a
couple
meetings
since
and
we
do
have
the
Ada
kits,
which
are
the
existed
listing
devices.
Those
are
in
the
procurement
stage
right
now
and
I've
been
following
how
many
two
yeah
it's
more
than
one
so
there's
something.
G
And
and
so
we'll
work
on
the
trainings
and
the
deployment
and
how
to
integrate
those
in
the
city
services,
but
excited
for
that,
so
hopefully
I'll
have
more
details
next
time.
We
we
meet
on
that
and
then
also
more
broadly,
some
of
the
work
that's
being
done
around
the
city
on
access
and
functional
needs
and
Emergency
Management.
B
So
you're
supposed
to
read
the
a
link
to
the
video
recording
of
this
meeting
will
be
added
to
the
meeting
minutes
for
this
meeting.
It's
a
Youtube
it'll
be
a
YouTube
link.
Is
what
I'm
being
told
so
that.
C
So
you
wanted
that
to
be
Matters
from
stuff.
B
B
About
that,
okay,
right
and
then
and
then
I'll
make
sure
that
you
have
the
the
link
to
the
video,
because
they're
supposed
to
be
uploading
these
to
YouTube
now,
which
is
wonderful
and
then
Matters
from
the
committee.
Are
there
any
Matters
from
the
committee?
B
No
okay,
if
there
are
no
Matters
from
the
committee
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
helona
I
know.
You've
had
to
work
really
hard
to
learn
what
you've
had
to
learn
in
the
last
month
and
and
I
do
really
appreciate
it.
B
B
What's
going
on
with
prime
gov,
because
I'm
aware
that
a
lot
of
it
is
prime
gov,
a
lot
of
it
is
prime
gov,
and
so
so
anyway,
I
will
be
in
touch
with
you
and
I
will
also
be
emailing
you
and
be
in
touch
with
you
about
other
things
like
we
had
listed
like
discuss
the
list
and
different
things
like
that
and
I.
Think
that
will
really
help.
B
We've
been
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
make
this
more
streamlined
and
easier,
and
just
so
you
can
just
go
through
the
list
and
not
have
to
like
think
about
and
worry
about.
Did
we
forget
something
did
something
not
get
submitted
so
so
that's
all
I
wanted
to
say
and
we
are
working
on
that
Helena,
okay
and
then
the
next
meeting
is
March
1st
2023
from
three
8-5
pm
and
if
no
one
has
anything
else
to
say,
we
are
adjourned.