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Sure,
just
one
clarification
and
one
change,
so
we
we
did
add
with
the
admitted
agenda.
We
added
the
Midtown
moving
forward
presentation.
We
have
Lee,
logsdon
and
I
believe
Daniel
Hernandez
here
to.
E
D
The
findings
of
facts
and
conclusions
of
the
law
case
2022-5064
2200
Old
Pecos
Trail
preliminary
flat.
There
was
a
condition
added
by
Dan
to
amend
the
findings,
to
include
a
motion
to
require
a
note
on
the
planet,
limiting
the
development
to
one
story.
So
you
all
need
to
make
a
motion
to
add
that
I
believe
that's
it.
Thank
you.
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Good
evening,
Eric
Connie
with
the
sanitary
Metropolitan
planning
organization,
I'm,
sorry,
who
is
the
chair
here
tonight.
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K
Off
that
it
was
a
tough
meeting
for
the
governing
body
last
night,
going
on
my
presentation
may
be
a
little
bit.
Unusual
has
intended
to
be
a
little
unusual.
I
want
to
start
off.
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Deputy
I'm
sorry
Jason,
asked
me
to
give
a
review
of
chapter
6
and
I
did
I
wanted
to
share
with
you
in
the
context
of
considering
and
I.
Think
it's
a
wonderful
opportunity
that
the
city
is
going
to
move
forward
is
the
intent
chapter.
Six
land
policies
have
been
designed
to
ensure
that
alternatives
to
automobile
trips
are.
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A
result
I
would
submit
that
you
really
don't
do
well
each
so
I
want
to
go
back
a
little
bit
further
to
1937
when
Norman
belgetti
wrote
the
quintessential
magic
Highway
Club.
If
you
haven't
seen
this
book
or
read
this
book,
it
is
phenomenal
in
terms
of
the
prediction
of
the
highway
system
that
we
have
today
and.
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K
K
K
I
I
K
Of
Mr
Bartholomew
Across,
the
Nation
at
the
time.
His
firm
was
the
leading
planning,
firm
and
comp
plans
across
the
Nations
for
cities
about
this
size
and
I
pick
on
him
a
little
bit
here
and
I
don't
mean
to
be
too
harsh,
but
the
intent
of
what
the
ethic
that
he
brought
into
this
plan
was
pretty
pretty
clear
that
we
see
today,
and
it
was
The
Proposal
of
a
highway.
That
was
right
through
the
city
downtown
and.
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Inconspicuous
giant
Highway
through
downtown
now,
interestingly
enough
in
the
city
of
adopted
the
plans,
this
particular
Highway,
which
is
Guadalupe
Street,
basically,
and
the
irony
I
think
today
and
in
a
good
way.
Maybe
Guadalupe
Street
is
going
under
a
road
Lane
production.
Hopefully
that
construction
will
start
this
year
after
years
of
effort,
so
that
the
spirit
of
the
plan
was.
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An
independent
organization,
federally
funded,
we
are
comprised
of
the
county,
the
city,
the
Pueblo
tosuke
in
the
state
of
we.
K
K
On
Earth
did
the
city
build
this
thing
in
terms
of
scale
and
going
back
to
the
picture
of
downtown
and,
and
it
makes
perfect
sense
and
here's-
we
were
using
again
the
convergence
of
zoning.
What
you
see
on
flanking
this
particular
roadway
is
a
result
of
zoning
minimum
parking
standards
which
we
can
talk
about
more
later,
if
you
want,
and
the
urban
forum
transforming
to
really
a
highly
inefficient
Suburban
forum
and
look
at
the
projection
of
growth,
so
I
talked
to
our
travel
demand
model
with
yesterday.
By
about
this
big
picture
in
1978.,
the.
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Google
Google
is
pretty
good
at
keeping
up
to
speed
and
I'm,
not
far
from
being
finished
here.
With
my
points,
Google's.
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K
This
is
the
you
can
see
the
fire
in
the
background
and
then
Rudy's
restaurant
is
is
actually
there.
So
this
is
probably
within
the
last
six
months,
because
this
is
now
what
we
continue
to
build,
and
this
is
what
we
will
continue
to
build
forever
move
unless
we
make
a
conscious
decision
that
this
is
not
what
we
want
now
being
with
the
MTO
and
planning
for
the
last
nine
years
and
studies
and
transportations
and
listening
listening
right.
Most
people
don't
want
this
in
this
community.
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K
One
of
the
things
that
come
with,
when
you
have
roads
of
this
nature,
do
you
have
crashes
and
cereals
wrote?
Is
the
most
deadly
Road
in
this
city,
the
MTO
just
passed
last
week?
What
is
a
local
Road
Safety
plan?
I
won't
go
too
much
into
it.
It
highlights
the
High
Injury
Network,
which
is
not
that
difficult
to
predict,
which
is
mostly
our
minor
and
major
activity.
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K
For
both
to
be
Mobility,
volume
and
accessibility
and
again,
they
do
poorly
in
my
mind
in
terms
of
the
metrics,
some
contributing
factors
that
let's
take
a
look
and
hover
for
a
second.
The
map
on
your
left
is
a
gap
analysis
that
we
had
done
of
sidewalks
now:
the
periphery
of
Santa
Fe,
which
is
in
the
NPO
area,
but
within
the
county.
It's
understandable
that
the
county
is
not
building
roadways
with
sidewalks.
So
if
you
largely
ignore
that
red
aspect
and
look
at
the
city
of
Santa
Fe,.
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Sometimes
we
look
crazy
running
around
going.
We
ought
to
stop
this
madness.
Look
at
it
from
a
practical
point
of
view
and
say:
what
can
we
do
together
make
the
change?
My
hope
is
that
the
redocument
actually
has
implementable,
reasonable
strategies.
That
can
say
no-
and
one
may
be
this
when
you
look
at
your
travel
I'm.
Sorry,
your
traffic
impact
studies
know
this
to
be
true.
They.
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K
Linear
regression
analysis
that
we
were
going
to
continue
to
continue
to
build
out
roadways.
So
at
a
systemic
level
there
are
so
many
things
that
we
don't
really
look
deeply
into
to
say
why
we're
going
back
to
1947
with
that
ethic?
Do
we
still
want
to
do
that,
so
I've
run
a
little
bit
over
I
hope
this
is
a
little
informative
in
terms
of
capacity
where.
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O
Of
concise
overview
of,
what's
happened
in
the
past
75
years,
where
we've
attempted
to
do
urban
planning
in
Santa
Fe
and
resulted
in
what
we
now
have
just
read
the
paper
any
day
and
you'll
see
the
hills,
exposed
right
or
debt,
and
when
I
look
at
the
map
and
I
see
surreal's
Road
extending
12
miles
from
the
center
of
the
city,
all
the
way
practically
to
the
airport
and
to
where
population
centers
are.
O
Can
you
and
the
mpo
at
at
some
point
Advocate
some
kind
of
high-capacity
Transit,
whether
it
be
a
fixed
rail,
Light,
Rail
or
and
I
know?
It
sounds
absurd
for
a
CSI
of
Santa
Fe,
but
all
over
everybody's
house
on
the
planet.
This
is
done
at
least
high
capacity.
Buses
that
are
clean,
safe,
efficient
and
punctual
I
would
think
that
some
a
game
changer
would
be
something
like
that
to
mold
Urban
Development.
What
are
your
comments.
K
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K
Be
candid
with
you
at
this
this
stage,
the
way
things
are
set
up
systemically
to
bring
up
anything
like
light
rail
for
bus
Rapid
Transit
is
somewhat
political
suicide
it.
It
doesn't
resonate
with
this
community
and
I.
Don't
I
can't
say
why
it's
just
that
it
seems
like
we
would
be
on
the
edge
of
foolishness
for
doing
so
until
we
recognize
that,
oh
maybe
that
could
actually
be
a
big
thing
and
a
good
thing,
but
it's
really
difficult
right
now
to
even
talk
about
it.
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These
is
there
different
format
or
formula
or
measurements
that
could
be
used.
That
would
all
that
would
be
better
represent,
what's
happening
than
it's
being
used.
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Excellent
question
Madam,
chair
commissioners.
In
fact,
just
recently
myself
and
planning
staff
had
a
really
critical
conversation
with
the
traffic
engineer,
Leo
Pacheco
about
that
very
issue,
including.
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K
We
used
level
of
service
and
how
to
use
level
of
service
for
decades
to
be
sort
of
a
measuring
stake
for
roadway
capacity
and
really
rethinking
how
they
can
do
that.
The
answer
was
difficult
and
here's
why
it's
difficult
is
that
it
would
be
and
I
think
we
ought
to
do
it
I
think
the
city
is
to
come
up
with
our
own
guidelines,
our
own
design
standards
and
our
own
metrics
that
recognize
the
difference
between
Highway
standards,
which
is
unapologetically
what
the
nmdot
has
that's.
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We
keep
using
this
this
measurement
that
you're
talking
about
and
yet
parking
and
traffic
consistently
like
some
of
the
top
things
where
the
community
fails
and
I
feel
as
a
commissioner.
How
we're
measuring
traffic
counts
doesn't
reflect
what's
actually
happening
on
the
on
the
ground
like
what's
happening
in
reality,
and
so
that's
what
I
wanted
to
ask
the
question
because
I've
been
since
I've,
been
on
the
commission.
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I've
I've
questioned
the
percentages
that
are
being
used
if
those
are
accurate,
like
the
percentage
of
growth
that's
being
calculated
for,
does
every
household
only
really
have
two
cars
I
have
not
found
that
to
teach
my
district,
oh
most
houses,
and
so
that's
the
kind
of
stuff
that
I,
don't
think
is
being
captured
in
the
traffic
studies
we're
doing
now,
and
so
that
I
just
was
wondering
if
there's
something
we
could
apply
now
that
could
maybe.
K
Sure
the
mpo
is
responsible
for
traffic
counts,
with
the
nmdot
with
permanent
accounts.
We
have
Trends
analysis
sort
of
time.
We.
K
When
you
look
at
it,
maybe
more
microscopic
element
of
the
development
we
we
invested
in
what's
called
street
light
data
about
a
year
ago
with
street
light
data
street
light
data
is,
if
you
have
a
mobile
phone,
there's
a
scrubbing
of
mobile
phone
data
to
actually
show
us
what's
really
going
on.
We
did
a
short
study
that
oh
we're
right
here:
hey
cool
yeah.
We
did
a
short
short
story
study
that
looked
at
where
people
are
going
trip,
destination,
origin
and
the
light
and
found
that
by.
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Good
evening
Madam
chair,
Commissioners
I'm
Leroy
Pacheco,
the
city's
public
works
department
contracts
out
its
traffic
engineering
review
for
the
development
review
team
traffic
engineering
is
an
engineering
discipline
and
it
requires
a
licensed
engineer
to
apply
at
least
American
Standards
of
traffic
engineering
to
the
analysis,
and
it's
it's
all.
It's
not
only
couched
and
engineering
principles,
but
also
U.S
law.
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We
use
and
refer
to
the
manual
of
uniform
traffic
control
devices.
It's
connected,
I
mean
I,
don't
know
how
many
automobiles
are
on
the
car
on
the
road
every
day,
but
I
would
say
hundreds
of
thousands
travel
through
the
city
each
of
these
carrying
liability
liability
insurance
with
respect
to
the
automobile
with
respect
to
the
lives
inside
the
automobile.
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There
are
only
three
jurisdictions
inside
the
state
of
New
Mexico
that
have
developed
their
own
criteria,
different
from
the
Dot's
State
access
management
manual.
They
all
use
the
same
traffic
engineering,
discipline,
principles,
I,
believe
one
of
the
maps
even
refers
to
the
sound.
We
call
it
the
Sam,
so
it's
I,
don't.
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L
To
leave
thinking
we're,
we
don't
know
what
we're
doing
and
so
many
smaller
towns,
smaller
communities
would
go
through
the
same
procedures
and
in
ways
of
looking
at
traffic
operations.
The
engineers
are
not
designing
the
environments,
we're
responding
and
analyzing
what
is
put
before
us
and
how
it
will
operate
and
impact
the
traffic
engineering
networks
that
we're
looking
at.
We
look
at
levels
of
service
delay,
impacts
to
pedestrians,
bicyclists.
Obviously,
the
automobile
motorized
traffic
is
the
largest
percentage
of
traffic
being
carrying
the
impacts
and
the
risks.
L
So
I,
just
don't
want
us
to
leave
with
the
impression
that
the
city
is
doing
something
arbitrary.
We
try
to
apply
the
same
principles
consistently
to
every
developer,
coming
through
the
system,
and
we
will
work
with
the
DRT
team
to
move
toward
a
system
if,
if
we
need
to
it's
independent
of
the
state
access
management
manual,
it's
not
easy,
and
my
last
recommendation
to
the
team
was
that
they
include
engineers
in
that
process.
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K
The
risk
of
embarrassing
myself
I
have
no
idea
the
consequences
of
what
you
just
said,
sir
other
than
we
don't
know
what
we're
doing.
We
do
know
what
we're
doing
it
isn't
working
and
we
don't
have
a
plan
going
forward.
That
will
do
anything
different
if
there
are
three
communities
that
are
doing
something
different,
which
ones
are
they
and
what
are
they
doing
differently
and
what
are
the
axioms,
they're
using
or
maybe
I'm
just
not
familiar
with
the
language,
but
I
I
would
not
be
telling
you
the
truth.
L
I,
don't
understand
are
the
consequences
Madam,
chair,
Commissioners,
commissioner
Smith
I
wasn't
implying
anybody
didn't
know
what
they
were
doing
so
if
I
somehow
implied
that
my
apologies,
the
communities
that
have
their
own
processes,
that
traffic
engineering
developers
would
use
City
of
Albuquerque,
Bernalillo,
County
and
city
of
Las,
Cruces
I.
Believe
Las
Cruces
also
refers
to
the
States
state
access
management
manual,
they're,
all
based
in
traffic
engineering,
design
principles,
and
they
all
use
the
same
engineering
principles
that
require
you
to
have
a
license
to
do
that
work.
So
no
one's
using
anything
different.
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L
They're,
the
biggest
dinosaur
in
the
room,
so
to
speak,
for
funding
for
planning
I
believe
they
in
a
certain
sense
house,
the
mpo
within
the
cities.
So
they
are
the
largest
resource
for
all
of
us,
they
being
the
New
Mexico
Department
of
Transportation,
they're,
sort
of
the
the
mother
of
all
the
traffic
that
runs
through
the
state.
So
it's
a.
E
L
Know
it's
a
big
player
and
in
public
works
we
use
their
design
standards
their
specifications.
It's
not
unique
that
the
dots
developed
processes
benefit
all
a
lot
smaller
communities
throughout
the
state.
That's
just
standard,
that's
a
given
and
so
I'm
I'm
trying
to
unpaint
what
I
thought
was
a
negative
picture.
Eric
was
painting
that
we
we,
the
Traffic
Engineers,
are
using
arbitrary
criteria.
That's
not
I
wanted
to
give
you
confidence
in
the
traffic
engineering
review
of
the
city's
public
works
department
is
giving
you
that
was
my
intention.
L
K
Was
not
intending
to
question
your
credibility
at
all?
What
I
was
trying
to
question
is
I,
don't
know
where
it
leads
us
other
than
we
have
a
pessimistic
view
of
where
we've
come
from
and
where
we're
going
and
the
definition
of
insanity
and
continuing
to
do
the
same
thing.
And
then
we
had
you
essentially
confirming
that.
O
L
Actually,
hopefully,
being
very
gently
kick
Eric
to
the
curve.
I
think
that
the
the
processes
we're
using
are
fine,
and
until
we
determine
that
there
is
something
independent
the
city
wants
to
do,
which
will
take.
A
lot
of
work
will
will
go
there,
but
I.
Don't
think
that
the.
L
I
L
There
are
professional
they're
being
done
for
a
criteria
that
is
not
terribly
Bleak,
I
mean
I,
don't
think
it's
we
might
have
our
own
manuals,
but
I.
Don't
think
and
I
think
the
point
I
would
leave
with
that.
We
don't
have
control
over.
Is
we
don't
I,
don't
design
anything
I,
don't
say
this
should
be
a
Transit
Center.
This
should
be
a
highway.
The
Traffic
Engineers
are
looking
at
the
impacts
to
the
network
for
what's
being
proposed,
and
so
there's
a
lines.
L
You
know
we
don't
have
any
sense
of
what
the
politics
is,
what
the
popularity
might
be
and
what
it's
just
here's
the
traffic
engineering
models-
and
this
is
what
they're
going
to
do
so
I
think
to
Eric's
defense
they're,
looking
at
design
Aesthetics
those
sorts
of
things
that
we
don't
really
we're.
Looking
at
now
at
a
10-year
Horizon
impact
and
is:
is
this
going
to
be
developed
a
bit
of
reasonable
level
of
service?
So
there's
a
distinction
between
the
engineering
and
the
planning.
It's
somewhat
tense.
K
I've
only
been
here
for
a
few
months,
virtually
every
major
decision.
We
have
to
make
brought
with
traffic
problems
and
we
are
told
it's
going
to
be
okay,
and
that
is
something
we
take
on
from
Faith.
I
L
M
L
Through
Albuquerque
and
Las
Cruces
and
Bernalillo
County
I,
don't
I,
don't.
A
Me
ask
a
clarifying
question
as
I
understand
it,
those
three
cities:
they
don't
use
the
dot
manual,
they
sort
of
have
their
own
manual,
but
but
in
terms
of
the
substance,
is
fairly
they
end
up
in
the
same
place,
pretty
much
the
substance
is
just
pretty
much
the
same.
I
L
K
A
So
they
don't
necessarily
come
up
with
a
different
solution
with
similar
problems
that
we're
facing
in
Santa
Fe
that
just
use
a
different
handbook,
essentially.
L
D
Manager,
yes,
thank
you.
Yeah
I,
just
like
to
point
out.
I
I
appreciate
Eric's
presentation
and
the
conversation
with
Mr
Pacheco,
I
I
think
these
ideas
are
mutually
exclusive.
It
feels
like
you
know,
Leroy
is
speaking
to
you
know
the
current
situation
and
how
we're
managing
that
and
and
Eric
is
looking
at
the
future.
I
just
wanted
to
make
that
point.
Q
Good
evening
Madam
chair
members
of
the
commission,
it's
a
pleasure
to
be
standing
in
front
of
you
again.
It's
been
a
little
while
I'm
Lee
hoxton
the
asset
development
manager
for
the
Midtown
project
with
and
working
now,
not
in
land
use
anymore,
but
the
economic
development
department
I
don't
want
to
steal
too
much
Thunder
from
the
presentation
that
Daniel
Hernandez
has
put
together
for
this.
Q
He
will
be,
or
he
has
joined
us
by
zoom,
and
he
will
be
actually
giving
the
main
presentation
here,
but
Jason
wanted
just
for
me
to
introduce
him
and
what
we're
doing
here
tonight.
We
are
pleased
to
be
in
a
position
now
where,
after
many
years
of
effort
and
planning
and
input
from
the
community
and
direction
from
the
governing
body,
we
are
actually
moving
forward
with
the
Midtown
Redevelopment
plans.
Specifically
the
land
development
plan.
Q
Excuse
me,
an
Associated
applications
have
been
turned
into
the
land
use
office
as
of
last
Monday,
the
land
use
department
and
all
of
our
other
departments
that
review
these
things
are
in
their
review
process
right
now,
and
we
are
pleased
to
say
that,
if
all
goes
well,
we
will
be
in
front
of
you
with
the
land
use
applications
on
October
6th.
Q
The
presentation
tonight
largely
deals
with
the
community
development
plan,
which
will
actually
not
be
something
that
you
make
a
decision
on
the
governing
body.
We'll
do
that
alone,
but
we
wanted
to
keep
you
in
the
loop
with
that,
but
again
I'll.
If
I
don't
see
it
before
I'll
be
seeing
on
October
6
to
present
the
various
land
use
applications
related
to
that
and
with
that
I'll
turn
it
over
to
Daniel
Hernandez.
Who
will
be
giving
a
presentation.
P
Yeah
I,
don't
know
why
we.
C
P
Good
evening
I'm
here
with
my
colleagues
Lee
and
Alexandra
Vlad,
we
actually
worked
together
on
improving
this
presentation
within
the
office
of
Economic
Development,
and
we
wanted
to
make
a
presentation
to
you
early
in
this
process
before
we
actually
present
the
land
that
the
master
plan
and
the
zoning
to
you
later
in
the
year
in
October,
because
there
are
two
complementary
plans
coming
together
that
will
guide
and
regulate
development.
P
Midtown
tonight
is
going
to
focus
on
the
community
development
plan,
which
is
again
not
a
land
regulating
document
but
more
of
a
public
policy
guiding
document.
So
we
wanted
to
have
this
chance
to
present
that
to
you,
so
you
can
sort
of
understand
how
it
relates
to
the
land
plans
that
you
will
be
reviewing
and
making
recommendations
for
approval
on
later
in
October.
P
So
just
one
step
back
early
in
the
year,
the
office
of
Economic
Development,
rich
brown
presented,
which
ultimately
became
a
resolution
around
a
series
of
actions
that
the
city
would
take
to
move
the
Redevelopment
of
Midtown
forward.
Here
you
see
a
list,
I
won't
read
them
all,
but
there
were
a
series
of
interrelated
actions
so
that
we
can
arrive
where
we
are
really
today
and
I
I.
Think
in
here
you
see
two
sections
in
here:
reuse
of
existing
buildings
and
Garson
Studios.
P
Both
of
those
are
requests
for
proposals
are
due
to
go
out
any
day
now
we're
waiting
for
approvals
on
the
drafting
of
them
and
we
will
get
those
out
on
the
street.
The
other
ones
are
related
to
like
a
bit
of
words,
I'm
sure
it's
planning
Commissioners.
You
understand
the
difference
between
horizontal
development
versus
vertical
development,
we're
preparing
the
site
for
vertical
development
so
and
and
some
Circles
of
the
industry
of
development.
P
It's
called
a
horizontal
development,
meaning
we're
working
on
the
approvals
understanding
the
infrastructure
to
support
the
type
of
development
we
want
to
see
at
Midtown
and
any
other
regulatory
requirements
we
have
so
that
we
can
actually
develop
the
types
of
uses
that
people
have
say
that
they
want
to
see
at
Midtown.
P
So
here's
a
really
big,
broad
scope
timeline
in
which
we've
been
planning,
I'm
sort
of
taking
it
back,
I
mean
if
you
really
think
about
it.
We
started
in
2018
when
the
city
took
control
from
the
previous
private
university
that
closes
doors.
We
were
then
responsible
and
in
control
of
figuring
out
what
to
do
with
the
land.
But
this
past
year
was
actually
a
really
important
phase.
So
immediately
we
went
into
concept
planning.
P
What
is
the
vision
for
the
site
that
early
work
really
guided
our
current
phase,
where
we
are
right
now,
which
is
in
the
planning
phase
and
we're
about
to
end
the
planning
phase
with
the
approvals
that
are
coming
up
in
the
fall,
but
last
summer
we
had
some
listening
sessions,
they
were
facilitated
by
planners
and
then
in
the
fall
we
had
workshops
they
were
facilitated
by
planners,
as
well
as
our
Midtown
engagement
Partners,
which
were
local
organizations
that
hosted
events
and
a
big
event,
and
the
fall
was
the
Midtown
block
party,
which
brought
out
many
families
that
and
and
and
people
from
neighborhoods
that
we
typically
don't
see
in
public
policy
forums.
P
So
it's
a
very
exciting
moment,
a
lot
of
that.
It
took
time
to
actually
aggregate
that
information
and
further
inform
the
plans,
and
we
are
now
entering
in
that
phase,
where
the
plans
are
now
public
they're
on
our
website
and
I'll,
give
you
the
name
of
the
website
in
a
little
while,
but
so
and
then
we
have
the
early
neighborhood
notification
meeting.
So
we
are
in
that
stretch
of
getting
to
the
approvals
again.
P
So
again,
there
will
be
two
Land
Development
plans
that
the
governing
body
will
hear.
One
is
landed
on
the
plan
which
the
master
plan
and
the
zoning
that
you
will
hear
comment
and
and
review,
and
then
the
community
development
plan
will
go
to
the
governing
body
at
the
same
time
as
a
land
development
plan,
so
that
everyone
understands
how
they
are
interconnected.
P
So
tonight
again
we'll
talk
more
about
what
that
interconnected
looks
like
Land,
Development
plan
being
a
master
plan,
the
zoning
primarily
there's
some
zoning
ordinance
ordinance
amendments
as
well
as
a
link
tweak
ordinance
as
well.
That
will
happen
during
that
that
same
review
period,
but
those
are
regulatory
issues
that
will
dictate
legally
what
can
be
filled.
P
What
can
happen
on
that
and
from
the
landing's
perspective,
the
Community
Development
government
plan
was
one
that
we
heard
from
the
community
like
we
don't
really
care
about
curb
Heights,
we
care
about
setbacks,
but
yeah
we
kind
of
do
what
we
were
really
interested
in.
What
are
opportunities
for
public
programming
for
arts
and
culture?
What
are
the
access
to
jobs?
What
jobs
are
going
to
be
created?
How
do
we
find
out
about
them
and
get
access
to
them
so
again?
P
Not
land
use,
but
the
land
use
has
an
implication
on
these
Community
goals
and
the
things
we've
heard
from
from
people
over
the
past
several
years.
So
here
is
the
process
by
which
we
are
following
that
we
are
following
again
on
July
14th
was
the
early
neighborhood
notification
meeting
we
have
answered
I
can't
remember
I
mean
it's
like
close
to
80
questions.
They
are
posted
in
English
and
Spanish
on
the
on
the
website,
as
well
as
the
en
guidelines.
P
Our
responses
for
the
several
questions,
the
standard
questions
at
the
land
use
office
has
applicants
to
respond
to
they're,
also
in
English
and
Spanish
on
the
website
and
the
land
development
plan,
meaning
the
master
plan
and
resulting
ordinance
information
are
all
posted
on
the
website
as
well,
so
that
people
can
see
them
and
the
application
was
due
August
22nd
and
through
Lee's
leadership.
P
We
were
able
to
get
that
application
in
on
time
and
again
we'll
be
coming
to
you
for
a
review
and
a
hearing
on
October
6th
and
then
for
after
you
make
your
recommendation.
That
will
then
go
to
the
governing
body
in
early
November,
so
we're
targeting
November
9.
We
know
that
politics
moves
dates
around,
but
we
want
to
keep
the
process
moving
because
people
in
the
city
have
said.
P
P
So
again,
you
know
this
better
than
anyone
as
Commissioners
planning
Commissioners,
but
for
the
public-
and
this
is
also
posted
on
the
website-
to
try
to
inform
and
educate
people
around.
What
is
a
master
plan,
and
what
does
it
do
when
you
look
at
the
master
plan
and
when
you're
reviewing
it
for
the
hearing?
P
It
has
the
street
networks,
it
has
parcel
layouts
and
block
patterns,
it
has
design
guidelines
for
height
limitations
and
setback
requirements,
and
it
provides
the
framework
basically
for
the
kinds
of
development
that
could
happen.
P
You
would
see
that
that
building
has
to
do
this,
this
many
floors,
but
the
tower
that
has
to
have
a
clock
in
it,
so
it
that
is
not
the
plan
we
wanted
to
develop
because
we
wanted
it
to
be
flexible
for
future
for
future
decisions
to
be
made
and
to
be
responsive
to
the
development.
Marketplace
and
again,
like
I,
was
saying
to
public
and
Community
goals.
P
So
the
community
development
plan
we
posted
it
on
on
the
15th
of
August.
We
are
making
these
series
of
presentations
of
different
city
council
committees
and
commissions,
including
you
tonight.
P
We
will
be
doing
a
similar
introductory
presentation
to
the
governing
body
at
the
end
of
September,
we'll
go
to
the
economic
development
advisory
committee
and
at
that
moment
is
when
we
can
actually
begin
showing
both
the
plan
and
the
land
plan,
because
it
will
be
past
October
6th
when
when
you
would
have
heard
it
we'll
be
presenting
also
to
the
finance
committee
and
then
ultimately
again,
the
two
plans
come
together
at
the
governing
body,
Hearing
in
on
November
9th,
so
Community
Development
plan.
First
it
it
again.
P
It's
not
the
type
of
legal
regulatory
document.
It
will
be
effective
based
on
a
resolution
passed
by
the
city
council,
and
it
is
a
policy
document
that
really
responds
to
what
people
voiced
as
their
objectives
for
the
future
of
the
Midtown
and,
as
you
can
imagine,
they're
not
always
clearly
quantitative,
they're,
often
qualitative
about
the
type
of
environment
that
people
want
to
experience
and
it
relating
back
to
Eric's
presentation.
P
So
I'll
start
out
with
Equity.
It
deals
mostly
with
affordability
and
the
ability
for
people
to
live
in
Santa
Fe.
So
it
talks
a
lot
about
housing,
affordability.
P
It
outlines
the
number
of
units
that
will
be
that
will
be
built
and
of
the
percentage
and
the
number
of
units
that
will
be
affordable,
meaning
they
will
have
price
restrictions
targeting
specific
household
incomes
so
that
we
have
a
spectrum
of
housing
that
will
be
affordable
to
a
wide,
a
variety
of
families,
not
only
by
income
but
by
family
size
yeah
by
family
size.
So
we're
also
going
to
be
proposing
different
Parcels
for
different
tenures,
meaning
we
want
to
see
ownership,
be
simple
ownership.
P
We
want
to
see
rental
units
and
we
want
to
see
land
trusts
so
sort
of
a
Cooperative
type
of
living
and
ownership
structure
through
a
land
trust,
so
we'll
be
issuing
rfps
to
address
those
different
pieces
of
puzzle
and
housing
choices
within
the
city
of
Santa
Fe.
We
also
want
to
send
out
a
clear
message
that
we
want
to
strengthen
our
local
capacity
to
do
the
kind
of
community
oriented
development
that
we
people
want
to
see
at
Midtown.
P
We
were
being.
We
were
being
asked
to
think
about
the
effects,
the
impacts
of
development,
new
development
on
the
surrounding
neighborhoods
and
what
that
might
look
like
and
what
the
city
might
do
to
help
stabilize
those
neighborhoods
to
prevent
the
displacement
and
to
manage
this.
P
The
effects
of
gentrification,
so
the
city
is
committing
to
creating
a
big
neighborhood
stabilization
plan,
we're
looking
at
a
future
fiscal
year
to
budget
that,
so
that
we
undertake
that
in
partnership
with
with
with
the
community
organizations,
we
learned
a
lot
during
this
process
of
the
value
that
working
with
communizations
brings.
They
bring
their
constituents
and
they
have
facilitate
the
process
versus
us
being
in
the
in
the
in
charge
of
actually
facilitating
everything
and
getting
the
same
people
back.
We
found
out
through
our
public
engagement
process
with
our
Midtown
Partners.
P
The
next
piece
of
the
the
community
development
plan
is
on
the
environment
that
focuses
on
the
what
you'll
see
in
the
really
in
the
master
plan
and
a
lot
of
what
Eric
talked
about
about
walkability,
open
space,
Community
Gardens,
just
everything,
the
quality
of
life
that
people
wanted
to
see
and
how
we
can
create
streets
that
are,
or
in
anticipation
of
multimodal
connectivity
and
Mobility
for
people
for
pedestrians,
people
and
bicycles,
as
well
as
the
safety
of
automobile
traffic
as
well.
P
We
use
the
link
overlay
to
increase
and
or
inform
the
the
the
the
plan
so
that
the
link,
broader
Midtown
District,
was
a
comprehensive
whole
and
not
just
a
fragmented.
Like
here's,
the
site
and
here's
these
surrounding
sites,
but
how
we
can
actually
feel
make
a
place
that
feels
bigger
than
just
the
city-owned
Midtown
site.
I
think,
most
importantly,
is
we
were
led
by
the
usgbc
lead
neighborhood
development
program.
P
We
use
it
as
a
guide
to
make
decisions
and
or
strengthen
decisions,
and
we
are
already
making
so
that
we
can
comply
with
a
series
of
credits.
The
lead
certification
checklist
will
be
part
of
the
community
development
plan
as
an
exhibit
to
ones
that
we
meet
within
the
master
plan
itself
as
a
regulatory
document,
but
also
ones
that
we
will
facilitate
their
implementation
through
the
RFP
process,
so
that
will
be
an
exhibit
in
the
community
development
as
well
again,
the
land
plan
looked
at
all
of
the
uses
that
people
articulated.
P
We
reiterated
in
the
community
community
development
plan
so
that
there's
clear
relationship
between
this
is
what
people
said
they
wanted
as
a
goal
and
here's
how
it
then
gets
implemented
as
a
as
a
land
use
requirement
allowance
within
the
the
zoning
and
master
plan.
The
next
chapter
was
on
economy.
We
focused
on
economic
development.
It
wasn't
just
about
creating
jobs
or
finding
new
businesses,
but
it
was
also
about
making
sure
that
those
jobs
were
for
local
residents,
whether
through
training
through
and
through
ways
that
notifications
for
new
jobs
were
available.
P
How
you
find
out
about
them
where
you
go
to
access
the
applications
or
interview
process
whatever
it
is,
so
that
it
wasn't
just
a
new
business
coming
on
board,
but
that
new
business
had
responsibilities
of
informing
local
residents,
how
they
can
access
jobs.
There
development
plan
lists
a
series
of
economic
business
businesses
that
we
want
to
promote,
probably
the
biggest
one
that
you
know,
which
is
also
one
of
the
rfps
that
will
be
going
out.
P
The
door
is
the
expansion
of
the
existing
rear,
Garson
Film
Production
Studio
Lot,
and
we
are
increasing
the
amount
of
space
for
expanding
Studio
production
in
Santa,
Fe
yeah.
So
again,
it
also
talks
about
ways
that,
when
we
submit
an
RFP
commercial
for
particularly
for
next
week's
buildings,
ways
that
we
want
to
see
small
local
businesses
occupying
those
downstairs
spaces
and
ways
that
they
might
think
about
making
Subspace
affordable
for
new
for
new
businesses
to
at
least
start
up
we're.
P
We
are
also
proposing
a
live
work
unit
typology
so
that
people
can
be
in
their
units
all
day
long,
which
contributes
to
pedestrian
and
eyes
on
the
street.
P
So
they
also
want
to
make
sure
that
we
have
it
whether
we're
facilitating
live
work
development
as
well
rfps
we've
been
asked
also
that
rfps
encourage
different
types
of
daycare.
Centers
really
so
I've
listed
a
few
here
that
we
heard
during
the
process
or
that
people
would
like
to
see
in
the
mixed
use
buildings
when
we
send
out
rfps
and
then
finally,
the
chapter
on
culture.
P
So
one
of
the
big
rfps
that
we
will
be
getting
out
soon
as
well
is
reusing.
The
existing
licoretta
Visual
Arts
Center
as
an
Arts
Hub,
but
it's
just
not
an
Arts
Hub
that
that
well
I'll
say
it
another
way.
It's
an
art
Hub
that
strengthens
and
stabilizes
Community,
Arts
and
culture.
That
was
a
huge
Focus
that
people
wanted
to
make
sure
that
Midtown
was
for
Santa
Fe.
It
was
for
Santa
Fe
parts
and
culture.
It
was
built
on
the
ethos
of
arts
and
culture
in
Santa
Fe.
P
So
we
have
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
the
RFP
articulates
that
Vision
about
stabilization
and
strengthening
Community
Arts
in
in
Santa
Fe.
There's
a
lot
of
discussion
in
the
video
you'll
find
about
public
programming
and
ways
that
Community
organizations
will
program
public
space
so
that
everything
from
theater
night
to
powwow's
to
community
concerts
are
part
of
life
at
the
future
of
Midtown.
P
P
P
Our
Midtown
engagement,
Partners
wrote
a
report
that
is
also
on
the
website
that
was
completed
in
April
this
year
and
they're
still
planning
various
activities
through
a
stipend
program
that
the
city
has
so
that
community
and
Civic
organizations
can
apply
for
a
small
funds
for
stipends
to
defray
costs,
for
their
forums
to
educate,
inform,
hear
back
from
people
are
these
plans
on
the
right
track?
Is
this
consistent
with
what
we've
heard
over
the
past
few
years
and
to
get
that
information
back
to
us
now?
P
Alexander
can
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that
she's
been
leading
that
effort
with
the
Midtown
engagement
partners
and
other
civics
organizations.
There's
the
website
about
about
the
stipended
programs
and
again
on
that
website
you
can
access
tons
of
information,
historical
information
about
all
the
planning
efforts,
Midtown
resolutions,
plans
that
have
informed
the
the
current
Midtown
plans
and
then
all
of
the
early
neighborhood
notification.
The
application
lots
of
stuff
is
on
there.
So
I
I
encourage
you
to
visit
the
Midtown
District
Santa
fe.org
website.
So
thank
you
for
embellishing
this
conversation.
P
This
presentation
in
the
Andrea,
Lee
and
I,
are
here.
Alexander,
Lee
and
I
are
here
to
respond
to
any
questions
you
may
have.
G
P
So
it
was
called
a
request
for
expressions
of
Interest,
which
is
a
actually
a
well-known
or
a
standard
sort
of
form
of
when
a
piece
of
property
doesn't
have.
When
there's
a
lot
of
information
that
the
issuer
doesn't
have
about
the
property,
we
wanted
to
identify
firms,
development
firms
who
would
either
have
an
interest
in
developing
at
some
future
point
or
a
master
developer,
who
wanted
to
develop
all
of
it
and
go
through
a
process
with
it
of
Discovery
that
closed
down.
P
When
we
entered
into
an
exclusive
negotiating
agreement
with
the
developer,
they
were
selected
because
they
had
a
slew
of
local
developers
and
many
organizations
on
their
team.
That
was
probably
the
strongest
point.
They
also
had
the
financial
capacity
and
a
mess
and
a
plan
conceptual
completely
conceptual
that
they
wanted
to
they
put
forward
as
a
starting
point.
All
of
those
plans.
P
None
of
them
were
informed
by
what
our
current
plan
is,
which
is
about
infrastructure
more
about
what
community
wants
to
hear
see
at
Midtown,
as
well
as
all
of
the
work
of
the
different
departments
within
the
city
to
put
an
informed
plan
together
so
again
conceptual
at
best.
We
looked
at
all
those
plans
when
we
were
reviewing
the
rfps,
our
Master
planning,
Consultants
organized
all
of
the
those
plans
into
the
pros
and
cons
what
they
achieved:
development,
the
types
of
development
that
was
predominant
versus
open
space
and
everything
in
between.
P
G
You
want
to
remember
I
know
the
exact
number
I
just
was
wondering
like
that
whole
process.
I
know
two
of
us
on.
The
commission
actually
were
working
with
two
of
the
developers
and
there
was
a
lot
of
information
that
developers
presented.
I
mean
these
are
huge
binders
and
that
I
was
just
wondering
if
it
was
useful
at
all
the
process.
P
Yes,
I
think
the
most
useful
process
we've
found,
particularly
when
we
were
in
the
exclusive
negotiation
process,
is
what
makes
Midtown
tough
from
a
development
perspective
and
and
and
and
that
what
would
make
it
more
feasible
from
a
developer's
perspective
and
what
are
the
risks
that
they
are
not
willing
to
take,
and
so
that's
why
we
undertook
this.
Those
nine
initiatives
that
Oxford
economic
did,
which
was
to
really
they
felt
the
most
challenging
part
of
redeveloping
the
site,
was
getting
approvals,
land
use
approvals.
P
It
was
informed
through
a
community
process,
as
well
as
through
the
technical
elements.
You
know,
particularly
around
engineering,
around
infrastructure.
They
felt
that
that
was
an
elusive
and
unclear
process
that
they
felt
was
too
risky.
The
other
thing
that
was
probably
the
most
important
was
it
was
we
were
negotiating
with
them
right
during
the
beginnings
of
covid,
so
the
financial
markets
were
really
unfair
to
them
and
basically
their
portfolio
investors
were
like
I.
You
know
this
may
not
be
the
right
time
to
be
embarking
on
a
project
that
has
too
many
of
those.
G
So
one
of
the
things
that
I
found
most
interesting
in
working
on
one
of
those
vids
was
that
he
met
with
tons
of
community
members,
so
we
met
with
like
the
unms
lead
team
for
development.
We
met
with
Community
College.
We
met
with
all
I
think
every
non-profit
in
Santa
Fe,
and
there
was
a
lot
of
at
one
point.
We
got
them
all
together
in
a
room
and
there
seems
to
be
as
far
as
programming
goes,
at
least
at
the
time
we
did
these
interviews
that
they
wanted
intersectional
programming.
G
We
were
to
make
sure
that
whatever
programs
were
there
that
they,
it
was
designed
in
such
a
way
through
programming
and
through
facilities
like
the
build
out
of
the
project
that
these
these
program
providers
could
work
off
of
each
other,
so
they
wasn't
they
weren't
siled
on
the
property.
Does
that
make
sense?
No
that's
I.
Just
remember
that
stood
out
to
me
that
they
really
wanted
to
all
work
together.
They
didn't
yeah
and
community
of
the
community
people
we
interviewed
as
well.
G
P
K
K
P
Yes,
there,
the
rfps
have
a
statement
in
there
that
the
city
would
prefer
the
sale
of
the
property
Parcels,
that
they
would
prefer
the
sales
of
parcels,
but
they
would
consider
a
long-term
ground
lease
if
it
benefited
the
city
and
the
implementation
of
the
project.
So,
as
you
probably
know,
Bradley's
is
are
hard
to
finance
development
on
and-
and
so
anyway,
we
wanted
to.
We
wanted
to
communicate
that
we
would
prefer
a
sale,
but
we
would
consider
it
if
it
benefited
the
city
in
the
long
run.
K
O
O
P
I
believe
I
understand
the
question.
Yes,
the
the
the
master
planning
team
included
the
land
economics
Team
group,
and
they
will
be
presenting
the
economics
of
the
Land
Development
land
valuation,
probably
the
two
more
important
things
from
your
perspective,
I
think
to
your
question.
So
it
will.
It
will
outline
a
model
based
on
the
development
program,
both
commercial
and
residential
and
film,
and
then
some
you
know
Community
uses
like
Public
Library.
P
It
will
outline
the
land
values
associated
with
those
different
uses
and
how,
over
a
period
of
time,
based
on
on
the
projected
development
phasing,
how
income
will
come
into
the
city
and
what
that
the
land
values
will
look
like
and
be
influenced.
They
are
also
working
and
will
be
presenting
Midtown.
Today,
there's
a
lot
of
misperceptions
about
Midtown,
just
sitting
there
and
idle,
and
it's
a
huge
operating
cost
burden
when
there's
actually
income
coming
into
the
city.
So
we
want
to
at
least
kind
of
begin
informing
people
about.
You
know.
P
Yes,
there
is
payment
going
out
the
door,
but
there's
also
some
income,
and
we
want
to
just
sort
of
outline
what
Midtown
looks
like
today,
so
that
we
can
then
paint
a
picture
of
what
it
looks
like
over
time.
O
Thank
you
that
does
address
my
question.
I
think
we
were
just
using
different
terms.
Thank
you,
Daniel.
With
regard
to
the
process
of
approval
of
the
Planning
Commission
and
governing
body,
and
then
subsequently,
you
know
when
this
is
approved.
What's
the
role
of
the
Planning
Commission
and
subsequent
parcel
by
parcel
reviews,
what.
M
Q
Sure
Madam
chair
members
of
the
commission,
commissioner
pava
the
way
the
link
ordinance
is
written
right
now,
the
there
is
a
thing
called
a
qualifying
residential
project
and
those
can
be
subject
to
land
director
or
land
use,
director
approval,
meaning
staff,
administrative
approval
and
so
right
now
there
is
still
that
option.
Q
F
To
say,
in
addition,
chair,
Commissioners
I'd
just
like
to
add
that
there
there
are
plenty
of
projects
now
that
don't
come
before
the
Planning
Commission.
If
you
want
to
build
a
single-family
house
on
a
single
family
lot
with
no
variances,
it
doesn't
come
before
the
Planning
Commission
so
same.
There
might
be
plenty
of
projects
at
Midtown
that
would
not
need
become
a
Planning
Commission
just
because
they
they
don't
need
a
variance.
They
don't
need
a
development
plan.
Q
If
I
can
add
members
of
the
commission,
so
on
the
one
hand,
that
could
be
viewed
as
a
lack
of
public
input,
public
review,
but
I
do
want
to
state
that
part
of
the
RFP
process
is
that
we
are
going
to
form
a
and
Daniel
can
correct
me
if
I'm
not
saying
this
properly,
but
there
will
be
a
community
Review
Committee
I'm,
not
using
the
right
name.
That
will
be
able
to
have
input
on
a
specific
request
for
proposals
that
the
city
goes
out
so
for
affordable
housing
for
a
variety
of
things.
Q
So
it
is
our
intent
to
keep
people.
The
residents
of
the
City
generally
involve
members
of
the
community
throughout
all
these
processes.
So
when
rfps
are
are
issued,
you
know
there
will
be
visibility
there
and
then
also
as
as
they
move
forward.
I,
don't
know.
If
Daniel
you
want
to
improve
on
what
I
said
or
add
to
it.
P
Yeah,
either
Alex
or
I
can
speak
to
this.
We've
worked
on
this
just
again
recently,
but
yes,
we
intend
to
create
Community
advisory
boards,
a
community
Advisory
board
that
will
participate
in
various
elements
of
the
implementation.
One
would
be
the
RFP
phase,
so
that
they're,
you
know
we
hear
their
voices
about.
You
know
responses
that
we
get
and
what
their,
how
different
developers
may
have
met
their
objectives,
so
they'll
they'll
be
participating
in
that
process
as
well
as
in
the
part
in
the
programming.
P
O
Can
you
give
some
examples
following
on
that
question?
There
must
be
some
examples.
You've
studied
around
the
country
where
this
approach
or
something
very
similar
to
this
has
been
tried.
And
true,
can
you
name
some
communities
or
cities
to
give
us
a
better
idea
and
inspiration
as
to
how
this
works.
P
Yes,
I
one
in
particular
that
it's
been
really
effective
and
I
was
recently
talking
to
them.
That's
why
I
know
them
that
that's
why
it
came
to
mind,
but
in
San
Francisco
in
south
of
Market,
the
European
Gardens
Arts
District
had
so
when
they
were
completely
redoing
south
of
the
market,
which
is
really
you
know
in
need
of
Redevelopment
at
some
point.
But
now
it's
completely
different
transformed,
but
Community
groups
are
part
of
the
community,
Advisory
Group
that
that
you
know.
Basically,
everyone
knows
like.
P
We
can't
do
that,
because
people
talk
to
them
first,
so
they've
been
really
affected
at
creating
a
great
place
and
and
in
the
neighborhood
Gardens
in
particularly
that
Park
that
sits
in
the
middle
of
the
of
the
district.
E
O
In
San
Francisco
it
might
work
and
the
other
city
of
Saint
Francis
I
don't
know
yet.
But
thank
you
for
that
illustration.
Final
question:
is
there
an
opportunity
to
coordinate
what
you're.
O
With
the
proposed
Innovation
overlay
zones
that
have
been
talked
about
around
the
city,
I'll
address
it
to
staff
in
general
seems
like
there's
a
lot
of
overlap
and
similarities
and
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish
not
specific
to
Midtown.
But
in
other
areas
where
the
commission
has
had
some
initial
case.
Reviews.
O
O
What
you're,
trying
to
propose
I
would
imagine
Economic,
Development
housing
and
all
those
good
things,
affordability,
mix
of
a
mix
of
housing,
types
and
densities
and
I'm
just
wondering
if
there's
an
opportunity,
I
don't
want
to
I,
don't
want
to
study
or
stop
anything,
but
as
a
staff
get
any
thought
to
how
there's
some
cross-pollination
with
the
proposed
Innovation
Zone.
If
it's
even
alive
at
this
point
and
what
midtown's
doing
or
is
that
just
a
non-sequitur.
P
The
I
think
I
can
respond.
You
know
this
is
part
of
the
I.
Think
goes
back
to
one
of
the
first
questions
about
the
ways
that
we
were
informed
by
the
respondents
to
the
rfbi.
P
Some
of
them,
I,
think
that
you
may
be
mentioning
were
had,
did
respond
to
the
RPI
as
well.
We
want
to
read
with
them.
I
mean
you
know,
coping
just
made
everything
such
a
question
around
commercial
development
and
getting
financing
for
it,
let
alone
tenancy.
We
want
to
go
back
to
people
who
responded,
particularly
in
those
Innovation
types
of
districts,
that
they
were
proposing
and
talk
to
them
about
their
interest
in
Midtown.
P
Now
that
we've
gotten
over
a
huge
hurdle,
which
is
to
get
approvals
to
allow
the
kinds
of
things
they
want
to
see
to
happen
there,
it
will
be
a
huge
way
to
re-engage
with
them
on
their
proposals
around
the
Innovation
type
ideas
there
and.
N
Madam
chair,
if
I,
could
also
add
to
what
Daniel's
saying
I
think
one
of
the
big
differences
is
that
we're
really
looking
at
Midtown
as
opening
up
opportunity,
so
it
whether
it's
Housing,
Opportunity
or
recreational
opportunity
or
job
employment
opportunities
or
entrepreneurial
opportunities,
that's
kind
of
the
lens
through
which
the
community,
when
we
did
all
of
this
engagement
with
the
the
Midtown
engagement
partners
and
UNM,
you
know
that's
what
we
heard
we
heard
people
wanted
to
place
to
gather
they
wanted
a
place
where
they
could
have
opportunity.
N
All
different
kinds
of
opportunity
and
I
think
Innovation
fits
into
that
lens
really
well,
and
it's
probably
a
little
early
to
know
exactly
what
that
looks
like,
but
I
appreciate
you
bringing
that
up
and
I.
You
know
these
are
some
of
the
ways
in
which,
in
being
in
a
small
town,
is
helpful
because
it's
you
know
it's
not
as
though
you
can
do
something
completely
without
influence
or
impact
on
another
part
of
town,
but
I.
Think
to
your
point.
We
should
really
make
sure
that
we
are
being
deliberate
about
that
connection.
O
And
the
what
comes
to
my
mind
is
is
when
this,
when
the
request
for
ideas
wasn't
really
proposals
when
it
came
out.
O
Actually
was
the
department
of
Energy
Applied,
and
you
know
that
could
happen
in
the
future.
So
I
just
bring
this
up,
because
it's
an
opportunity
and
possibly
a
challenge
economic
driver-
can
make
a
business
case
work.
How
does
it
affect
all
the
other
goals
and
aspirations,
but
as
a
reality
with
with
a
budget
increasing
by
two
billion
dollars
in
the
last
two
years
and
all
those
people
needing
housing
and
officing,
which
is
already
happening?
That's
what
I
bring
it
up.
P
I,
if
I
may
then
I'll
end
there,
but
I
love
this
comment:
it's
a
reminder
of
emphasizing
certain
things.
I
mean
it's
a
draft
need
of
a
development
plan
so
having
these
meetings
is
actually
helping
me
to
think
like
make
that
a
stronger
Point.
P
M
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I,
wanted
to
ask
a
little
bit
more
building
on
commissioner
pava's
question.
I'm
I'm
processing
the
idea
of
implementing
this
in
large
part
via
RFP,
and
it
sounds
like
that's
going
to
play
a
very
large
role
that
there
are
going
to
be
a
large
number
of
them
potentially
to
serve
different
needs
to
serve
different
pieces
of
land
and
I'm.
Curious
I'm,
not
familiar
with
other
examples
of
places
that
have
had
such
a
large
and
complete,
build
out
in
this
sort
of
form
and
I'm.
M
P
I'm
trying
to
think
of
an
example,
that's
a
good
question.
Let
me
do
that.
If
you
don't
mind
it,
I
will
get
back
to
you,
but
it's
not
unusual
for
a
district
at
this
scale.
You
know
actually
do
know
an
example.
So
I
only
know
the
first
phase
that's
been
built
out.
N
One
of
the
any
planned
community
that
has
guiding
principles
and
Visions
in
either
design
guidelines
or
sustainability
goals
or
Road
design
standards.
All
of
that
stuff,
any
disposition
of
property
kind
of
acts
like
an
RFP,
because
the
property
is
not
going
to
be
sold
unless
that
developer
can
meet
all
of
those
standards
that
are
that
are
part
of
the
master
plan.
So
this
is
much.
This
is
different
to
your
point.
N
It
is
a
much
more
it's
more
surgical
to
be
honest
and
the
RFP
is
is
a
lot
of
Leverage,
so
the
city
can
actually
be
playing
off
not
playing
off
but
can
be
evaluating
different
proposals
and
even
create
a
situation
where
they
would
take
the
best
of
both
and
say
No.
Actually,
that's
what
we
want
so
I
think
it
is
more
surgical,
but
I
do
think
just
conceptually
it's
you
know
a
tier
consenter,
for
example.
N
N
You
know,
and
the
next
developer
might
come
along
and
say:
hey
I
can
do
great
with
the
20
inclusion,
but
this
is
my
market
rate
product
slightly
different,
and
if
that
market
rate
product
met
the
overall
goals
for
the
project,
then
then
that
that
could
be
accepted
because
they
were
still
overall
meeting
the
goals
for
the
whole
project.
If
that
makes
sense,.
M
It
does
and
thank
you
for
that
and
I
do
like
the
idea
of
a
planned
Community,
I,
just
I,
think
there's
a
lot
of
potential
here,
but
I
also
have
a
lot
of
concerns
that
it
could
be.
It
could
be
limiting
and
it
could
be
really
hard
to
implement
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
know
that
going
in
as
we're
thinking
about
the
master
planning
of
it,
that
it
could
be
very
difficult
to
get
the
the
diversity
of
ideas
that
you're
hoping
to
get
as
responses
to
certain
rfps.
P
I
I,
if
I
may,
I,
I,
wouldn't
say,
I
appreciate
that
question
and
and
I
now,
I
understand
the
the
question.
What
so
one
I
mentioned
flexibility,
the
other
one
was
this
I
This.
I
P
Get
a
master
developer
again,
the
good
part
about
it
is
that
the
size
64
Acres.
We
know
that
there's
a
certain
acreage,
that's
going
to
go
to
the
film
expansion,
but
we
could
decide
to
you
know:
Let's!
Do
let's
get
on
an
RFP
for
12
acres,
again
I'm
making
the
number
Rod,
but
the
city
can
decide
at
various
points.
Let's
do
a
few
more
incremental.
Let's
do
a
big
two
blocks
over
here,
so
they
have
those
choices.
P
Moving
forward
and
that's
again,
I
feel
like
we're
in
a
good
position,
because
we
control
the
property.
We
can
make
those
choices
of
flaw
in
the
way
based
on
what
the
market
seems.
You
know
what
seems
viable
within
the
marketplace.
D
D
D
You
know,
50
acres
plus,
for
example,
so
I
think
there
it
is
analogous
to
the
link
and
and
therefore
the
Midtown
I,
think
the
difference
in
Midtown
is
you
know,
there's
been
deep,
Community
engagement,
you
know
to
to
create
this
community
development
plan,
which
you
know
wasn't
contemplated
with
the
Innovation
Village
legislation,
and
then
the
Innovation
and
Village
legislation
also
was
attempting
to
you
know,
change
the
approval
process
to
make
it
more
streamlined.
You
know
to
you,
know,
include
more,
you
know,
administrative
approvals
versus
Planning,
Commission
approvals.
G
I
have
a
question
with
regard
to
the
sale
of
the
land.
Has
the
city
contemplated
doing
kind
of
the
formula
they
did
with
chair
contenza,
because
I
know
with
every
sale,
every
sale
they
make
in
Terror
content?
A
percentage
of
the
sale
goes
back
into
the
city's
Economic
Development
and
a
couple
of
other
funds
and
I
was
just
wondering
this
may
be
a
good
way
if
we
thought
about
it.
G
Similarly,
this
may
be
a
good
way
to
allow
for
some
businesses
to
be
in
there
or
we
could
offset
the
cost
of
infrastructure
because
it's
hard
to
get
low
leasing
in
if
the
cost
of
the
build-out
is
so
expensive
that
the
developer
or
whoever
has
to
you
know,
charge
a
certain
rental
amount
in
order
to
get
just
to
kind
of
what
they've
spent
and
so
I'm
just
wondering.
If
that
has
been
a
consideration,
I
mean
it
has
worked
for
Tierra,
contenta
and
I.
Just
wonder
if
there's
some
potential
here.
N
P
N
Sounds
good
Madam,
chair.
N
N
Hopefully,
but
there's
there's
so
many
other
aspects
and
I
really
appreciate
you
bringing
that
up,
because
I
think
that's
really
important
that
you
know
there
is
there's
going
to
be
cross-subsidization
and
there
is
going
to
be
revenue
and
we
need
to
figure
out
where
it
goes
and
how
to
make
the
most
of
it.
P
I
would
only
say
that
you
know
the
the
analysis
right
now
is
really
looking
at
the
main
trunk
lines
that
need
to
go
in
to
support
the
development,
water,
electricity,
sewer
and
that's
was
that's
been
the
focus
of
the
analysis.
P
The
economics
will
look
at
bringing
those
trunk
lines
in
either
repairing
and
or
new,
and
the
land
value
is
what
we
have
to
play
with.
We
have
a
lot
of
cash
in
the
city,
so
we'll
be
we'll
be
working
around
land
value
based
on
you
know
the
type
of
use
that
that's
being
proposed
there
or
requesting
so
you're,
absolutely
spot
on
as
part
of
the
way
that
we'll
be
analyzing
the
economics
of
development
over
time,
but
yeah
thanks
for
bringing
it
up
because
I.
Q
P
Yeah
I
mean
I
think
that
we
can
we
can
fairly.
You
know
we
can
project
right
now.
We
want
to
get
some
rfps
out
the
door
within
the
next
few
weeks
and
then
some
for
new
development
Parcels
those
there
are
some
parcels
that
have
access
to
utilities.
So
that
can
happen
within
the
next
three.
You
know
we
can
get
the
RP,
but
probably
not
groundbreaking
until
three
four
five
years
from
now,
and
then
we
have
to
build
infrastructure
so
that
that
would
be
the
next
phase
of
development.
P
We
want
to
see
yeah
I
I,
my
you
know,
I
think
that
there's
a
lot
of
interest
in
Santa,
Fe
I
think
there's
smart
developers
in
Santa,
Fe
and
in
the
region.
We
just
have
to
make
sure
that
we
write
the
right
rfps
to
get
them
incentivized
to
invest
in
Midtown.
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I
haven't
heard
this
come
up
yet,
but
right
now,
there's
two
main
entrances
into
that
that
area
and
I'm,
just
wondering
and
I,
don't
know
if
this
is
too
soon
or
if
I'm
just
wondering.
Are
there
plans
to
open
that
up
more
so
that
there's
more
Avenues
to
you
know
get
into
the
into
this
property.
E
I
know
that
Franklin
miles
Park's
right
there
and
we're
talking
about
accessibility,
walkability
and
I
mean
this
is
something
that
I'd
like
to
see
certainly,
but
has
that
come
up
and
I
wonder
if
you
could
speak
to
that
a
little
bit
about.
E
Up
I
mean
it's
a
former
college
campus,
so
it's
contained
right,
but
opening
that
up
so
that
there's
more
accessibility
from
the
surrounding
community.
Q
Yeah
Madam
chair
members
of
the
commission,
commissioner,
commissioner
Lucero
yeah.
Absolutely
we've
been
looking
at
that
the
land
development
plan.
When
you
see
it
proposes
a
number
of
outside
Road,
Connections
and
and
other
connections,
I,
should
say,
or
let's
go
back
and
restate
a
connection.
Some
of
them
are
envisioned
as
likely
pedestrian
and
bicycle
type
connections.
Some
only
some
of
them
are
envisioned
as
initial
pedestrian
bike
type
connections
that
might
turn
into
roads
someday.
All
of
it
requires
negotiating
with
other
landowners.
Q
The
city
owns
property
and,
as
we
were
charged
to
do
by
the
governing
body,
we
are
in
negotiations
with
the
state
of
New
Mexico
to
do
land
spots.
That's
why,
when
you
see
the
the
various
land
use
applications
associated
with
this
master
plan,
we
are
also
proposing
rezoning
and
doing
General
plan
Amendment
on
adjacent
properties,
so
properties
that
are
not
actually
included
in
the
master
plan,
but
we
either
own
or
intend
to
own
once
we
negotiate
a
trade
with
the
state
and
some
of
those
those
properties
in
question
are
intended
to
provide
additional
links.
Q
We
have
also
reached
out
to
adjacent
property
owners
over
a
period
of
time.
I'm
not
sure
when
some
of
the
initial
ones
where
it
was
before
I
was
on
the
the
project,
but
we
have
adjacent
landowners
who
are
interested
and
would
like
to
talk
more.
Q
So
we
are
trying
to
do
that,
and
the
traffic
management
plan
assessment
that
Wilson
and
Company
did
took
those
into
account.
The
the
proposal
is
not
reliant
on
additional
Road
Connections,
but
it
would
be.
It
will
be
better
with
those
and
that's
what
we
hope
to
achieve.
E
G
So
I'm
just
wondering
is:
has
this
project
been
put
on
like
the
city's
VIP
list
or
icip
list
for
the
state
to
try
and
get
money
through
the
state
I
know:
there's
like
the
north
central
Economic
Development
some
board
that
a
lot
of
the
state
legislators
belong
to
there's
Economic
Development
funding
there
and
some
really
low
low
interest
loans
through
that
organization
and
the
New
Mexico
Finance
Authority.
G
You
can
get
loans
at
one
to
two
percent,
regardless
of
what
the
market
is
doing
and
if
you
prove
that
the
development
has
shown
to
offer
in-kind
services
of
the
value
of
the
loan,
the
state
will
forgive
the
loan.
So
there's
a
lot
of
money
at
the
state
that
may
not
just
be
through
like
traditional
icip
process
of
asking
for
just
Capital
outlay.
G
You
can
ask
for
nmfa
loans
that
are
low.
You
can
ask
for
an
MFA
grants.
You
can
ask
for
economic
development
grants,
especially
around
infrastructure.
G
This
is
the
kind
of
thing
that
they
would
be
interested
same
with
the
north
central
Economic,
Development
Regional
I
forget
what
the
acronym
is,
but
if
you
need
any
help
contacting
those
people
I'm
more
than
happy
to
help
make
the
connection
but
I
think
there's
more
resources
at
the
state
that
could
help
with
this
project
and
with
Los
Alamos
National
Laboratories,
because
the
Laboratories
are
trying
to
decline,
like
decrease
the
number
of
facilities
they're
using
in
Los,
Alamos
and
they're,
putting
those
into
Santa
Fe,
because
that
can
connect
Santa
Fe
with
Sandia
labs
and
they're.
G
And
so
I'm
just
wondering
if
we're
looking
outside
of
just
city
funding
to
any
of
these
other
bigger
Avenues
to
get
money.
P
P
P
Who
may
not
know
that
who
may
not
be
aware
that
they
exist?
So,
yes,.
K
I
can't
resist
In
The
Same
Spirit
in
my
experience,
and
it's
not
been
as
a
planning
commissioner,
but
in
other
places
and
other
times
the
economic
development
phase
of
this
can
all
of
a
sudden
not
be
local,
not
employ
local
people,
and
it's
going
to
be
very
successful
and
I'm,
not
arguing
Against,
The,
Ether,
commissioner
or
walking
or
saying,
but
I
would
simply
say
we're
way.
K
To
do
it
very
well,
however,
you
handle
it
with
them
or
others.
Having
a
process
in
place
before
you
have
a
candidate
I
think
would
be
would
be
having
spoken.
So
you
aren't
running
at
the
last
moment
to
to
put
together
the
right
kind
of
whether
they're,
apprenticeships
or
internships
or
on
the
job
training
programs.
K
Or
what
will
happen
is
the
money?
Will
talk
and
we'll
look
back
and
there'll
be
able
to
match
some
beautiful
jobs
there,
but
they
will
not,
in
general,
have
like
the
economic
development
people
like
mid-sized
businesses
and
in
other
places
those
are
businesses
that
employ
more
than
150
people
yeah,
and
they
it
come
with
a
program.
So
it's
just
a
need
to
have
about
if
you're
serious
about
the
balance,
you
need
to
think
ahead
about
it.
In
my
from
my
experience.
Q
K
P
A
A
Okay,
let's
move
on
to
approval
of
findings
and
conclusions.
The
first
one
is
case,
number
2022-5063,
which
is
2200
old,
Pecos
Trail
and
it's
the
rezoning
matter.
A
M
B
E
A
The
next
matter
is
case:
number
2022-5064,
I'm,
2200,
opecos,
Trail
preliminary
plant
approval,
and
this
is
the
findings
and
conclusions
that
have
an
amendment
Madam,
chair,
I,
believe
you
already
voted
on
this.
The
preliminary
flat.
G
A
Whoever
made
the
I
mean
I
have
it
here,
so
I
could
read
it,
but
okay,
so
item
number
16
on
the
amended
findings
states
that,
during
the
hearing
the
applicant
agreed
to
limit
structures
to
one
story
based
on
that
stipulation
the
Planning
Commission
added
a
condition
of
approval,
added
that
as
a
condition
of
approval
and
requires
the
that
limitation
to
be
placed
as
a
note
on
the
plat
and
the
note
will
limit
the
structures
to
one
story
and
made
the
motion
on
that.
I.
A
My
understanding
is,
is
that
at
the
at
least
the
first
hearing,
the
second
hearing
I
wasn't
present,
but
at
the
first
hearing
the
applicant
stipulated
that
they
would
limit
all
construction
to
to
one
story.
So
my
understanding
is
that
was
the
condition
of
approval
and
therefore
the
findings
we're
not
adequate
because
they
were
not
that
wasn't
in
there.
So
this,
so
that
finding
is
now
added
to
the
findings
of
the
facts
and
conditions
of
Law
and
we're
just
voting
on
the
approval
of
or
approval
of
those.
B
E
O
A
B
J
A
Approved
moving
on
to
new
business,
we
are
taking
up
case
number
2022-5621,
which
is
400
Buckner
road
development
plan.
H
Good
evening
Madam
chair
members
of
the
Planning
Commission
I
will
be
presenting
tonight
in
the
place
of
our
senior
senior
planner
Dan
Esquibel,
who
is
away
for
a
few
weeks
on
a
much
needed
and
much
deserved
vacation.
So
he's
prepared
he's
done
all
the
hard
work
for
me.
So
I
will
just
try
to
fill
his
his
shoes
here.
Who's
here
tonight
so
before
us
tonight
is
case,
2022
56
21.
H
This
is
4000
Beckner
Road,
a
development
plan
for
lot
18
of
the
low
Solaris
master
plan,
Orion
West
as
the
agent
for
Meridian
property
Ventures,
the
owner
requests
approval
of
the
plan
to
construct
a
95
000
square
foot
medical
office.
H
The
property
is
a
portion
of
the
last
Solaris
master
plan
consisting
of
approximately
18
Acres
of
this
site,
and
the
property
is
Zone
C2,
General,
commercial
and
within
the
Suburban
archaeological
review.
District
staff
is
recommending
approval
with
the
conditions
of
approval
outlined
in
this
report,
and
one
motion
will
be
acquired
in
this
case,
approve
or
deny
the
development
plan.
Subject
to
the
conditions
and
Technical
Corrections
of
the
staff
report,
you
can
find
the
conditions
of
approval
on
page
beginning
on
page
two
of
the
staff
report.
H
H
And
the
main
change
here
is,
as
you
can
see,
changing
this
condition
to
specify
the
punch
list
and
to
change
it
from
prior
to
recording
of
the
development
plan
to
Prior
of
issuance
of
building
permit.
H
H
H
So
figure
two
of
the
staff
report
shows
the
site
from
the
ground
here
approxima
this.
The
proposal
is
to
develop
a
portion
of
lot
18
in
Los
Solaris,
a
lot
of
teens,
approximately
49
acres
and
the
applicant
is
proposing
a
lot
split
for
lot.
18
and
constructing
the
project.
Unproposed
lot,
18b
actually-
and
your
in
your
report-
actually
that's
another
minor
Amendment,
it's
referenced
as
Latin
18
a,
but
this
proposed
project
will
be
built
on
the
proposal
lot
18b
and
this
lot
contains
approximately
18
Acres.
H
H
Year
three
identifies
the
current
zoning
and
places
the
project
site
in
C2.
You
can
see
the
larger
lot
18
site
there
designated
as
C2
and
then
the
18
Acres
of
the
project
site
there
to
the
north.
You
have
the
R12
Zone
Estancia
de
las
Solaris,
residential
development
to
the
West
mixed-use
current
vacant
property
and
then
pass
the
vacant
piece
of
lot.
18,
a
commercial,
a
shopping
center,
zoned
area
that
is
currently
vacant
as
well
and
then,
of
course,
Interstate
25
and
County
jurisdiction
to
the
South.
H
The
applicant
did
submit
a
traffic
impact
analysis,
the
area
a
study
comprises
of
the
following:
seven
intersections
first
at
Beckner,
Road
in
Cerrillos,
the
second
at
a
Wellness,
Way
and
Cerrillos,
the
third
off
to
your
right,
Beckner,
Road
and
Richards,
the
fourth
at
Wellness
Way
and
Beckner,
the
fifth
at
Rail,
Runner
Road
in
Beckner
and
then
the
sixth
on
the
site.
We
have
Beckner
Road
and
walking
rain
and
Buckner
Road
and
the
proposed
driveway
a
into
the
property.
H
The
in
the
summary,
in
summary,
the
Tia
concludes
that
the
proposed
development
will
have
minimal
adverse
impact
to
the
adjacent
transportation
system,
and
the
applicant
has
addressed
the
city's
traffic
consultant
Wilson
all
of
their
concerns
identified
in
the
staff
report
and
exhibit
B
Ure
six.
It
displays
the
proposed
access
and
parking
onto
the
site.
H
H
H
H
Also
want
to
point
out
the
bicycle
parking.
The
development
plan
identifies
bicycle
parking
at
the
front
and
rear
of
the
building
in
the
Northwest
and
southeast
of
the
building.
The
development
plan
shows
that
there
are
12
bicycle
parking
racks.
These
racks
can
serve
as
two
bikes
a
piece
so
they're,
showing
a
total
of
24
bicycle
parking
spaces
on
the
development
plan.
Our
code
requires
12,
total
biking,
parking
spaces,
so
they're
in
compliance
here.
H
Here's
a
slope
gradient
of
the
site,
this
the
site
slopes
down
from
the
boundary
with
Interstate
25
towards
Beckner
Road,
the
sites
they're
no
portion
of
the
property
contains
slope
greater
than
30
percent,
and
the
proposed
building
site
contains
a
natural
slope
of
less
of
no
greater
than
20
percent
as
well.
H
For
stormwater
management
and
detention,
there
are
three
drainage
retention
areas,
retention,
detention
areas,
one
located
to
the
east
of
the
buildings
and
two
along
the
front
of
the
property
land
property
line
adjacent
to
Beckner
Road
drainage
flow
has
been
designed
to
direct
drainage
into
these
areas.
As
you
can
see,.
H
The
proposed
law,
18b
is
approximately
18
Acres
or
784
000
80
square
feet
code
requires
4.5
Acres
of
open
space
due
to
the
employment
of
passive
water
harvesting.
They
are
allowed
a
5
reduction
to
open
space,
resulting
in
a
required
3.6
Acres
of
open
space.
H
H
The
applicant
has
projected
a
water
budget
of
8.89
acre
feet
of
water
per
year.
The
City
Water
Resources
Division
has
not
approved
the
water
budget.
It
has
requested
additional
information.
I
know
in
Communications
with
the
applicant
that
they
are
continuing
to
work
with
the
water
department
to
make
sure
that
they
have
the
information
they
need
to
correctly
evaluate
the
proposal.
H
For
utilities,
the
development
proposes
to
connect
city
services
for
water
and
sewer.
The
project
is
connecting
a
six
inch
water
line
to
a
12
inch
main
off
of
Beckner
Road,
as
well
as
a
six
inch
sewer
line
to
a
10
inch.
Sewer
line
off
of
Beckner
Road
and
draw
utilities
were
not
addressed
in
the
applicant's
plans.
H
For
fire
service
and
suppression,
the
there
is
one
existing
fire
hydrant
along
Beckner
Road,
and
the
proposal
calls
for
three
additional
fire
hydrants
on
the
site
and
also
sprinklered.
The
buildings
will
be
sprinklered
and
all
of
the
lanes
you
know
through
the
through
the
development
will
be
will
be
fire
Lanes.
You
can
see,
though,
that
we
kind
of
marked
that
out
there
it's
a
little
hard
to
see
in
the
dark
blue,
but
it
follows
through
here.
H
For
Trails
of
the
sidewalks,
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
construct
part
of
the
Lost
Solaris
master
plan,
Trail
segment
along
the
rear
property
line.
That
kind
of
runs
along
I-25.
H
However,
on
this
diagram
you
can
see
their
proposed
trails
are
outlined
in
yellow
and
we
are
conditioning
that
they
expand
the
connections
to
the
edge
of
the
property
line
and
construct
the
trail.
You
know
through
the
whole
width
of
the
property,
the
city
and
Parks
Trail
division
requests
an
eight
foot
wide
asphalt
path
as
well,
with
a
six
inch.
Subgrade
The
Proposal
of
the
developer
had
called
for
a
Crusher
finds
or
a
gravel
path,
but
City
recommends
asphalt
for
both
accessibility
and
maintenance
going
forward.
H
H
The
architecture
proposed
for
the
site
fits
in
with
the
mix
of
single
story,
multi-story,
Pueblo,
Pueblo,
Revival
and
contemporary
structures,
currently
existing
around
the
site.
The
proposed
masting
of
the
project
you
can
kind
of
see
a
rendering
here
at
the
center
is
a
three-story
contemporary
style
structure
and
we
find
it's
compatible
with
the
kind
of
existing
architecture
around
the
site.
H
A
You
any
questions
clarifying
questions
from
the
commission,
commissioner,
Lucero.
E
Yes,
I'm
not
super
familiar
with
the
Los
solera's
master
plan,
but
this
is
in
reference
to
item
number
four.
The
eight
foot
wide
asphalt
path,
I'm
a
cyclist
and
pet
peeve-
is
a
path
that
goes
nowhere
and
so
I'm,
just
assuming
that
as
other
tracks
of
land
get
developed,
that's
part
of
the
condition
of
building
is
that
they
need
to
continue
that
path
onward
into
the
next
site
as
they
get
developed
is
that
is
that,
what's
yeah.
H
E
Okay-
and
that
is
the
condition,
that's
a
recommendation
or
is
that,
is
that
a
condition.
K
E
H
Smith,
that's
my
recollection
of
the
meeting.
The
applicant
may
have
more
detail.
I
did
attend
and
I
don't
yeah
I,
don't
recall,
you
know
much
opposition
or
concerns
raised,
but
we
can,
you
know,
go
into.
K
More
detail
with
that
yeah
and
one
other:
is
it
in
terms
of
the
need
for
the
building
I'm,
assuming
this
is
connected
to
the
hospital?
Somehow
is.
I
K
Can
we
hear
more
about
that?
I
mean
I
know
that
at
best
abridging,
what
our
role
here
is.
But
this
is
a
great
big
building
with
a
lot
of
parking
lots.
K
H
H
Smith
yeah
I
will
I'll
defer
that
question
to
the
applicant
I
think
there
might
be
in
a
better
position
to
speak
to
you
know
who
they're
looking
to
to
fill
this
building
and
and
what
use
it
might
have
in
the
future.
So.
J
I.
Thank
you,
commissioner.
J
I
H
Madam
chair,
commissioner
Miranda,
let
me
try
to
find
pull
up
the
the
actual
condition.
So
this
is
from
Santa
Fe.
It's
number
four.
There
I
think
I
have
it
up
on
the
screen.
H
Sorry,
you
probably
can't
read
it,
but
this
is
coming
from
Santa
Fe
Park's
Division,
and
they
are
requesting
that
you
know
the
trail
be
constructed
of
asphalt
with
six
inch
subgrade,
and
you
know
the
nice
base
material
that
you
need
to
to
keep
this
Trail
in
good
working
order
for
for
years
to
come,
because,
generally,
you
know
for
accessibility
and
maintenance
on
these
Trails,
especially
with
the
parks
division
being
as
strapped.
You
know,
for
for
maintenance.
H
O
M
O
Surely
it's
44.,
all
I
want
to
say
is
a
statement
is
getting
back
to
the
first
presentation
this
evening.
This
is
where
this
brings
us.
Ninety
percent
of
this
lot
is
not
in
building
ninety
percent
of
this
lot,
and
probably
fifty
or
sixty
percent
of
the
slot
is
going
to
be
asphalt,
keep
doing
what
you're
doing
and
that's
what
you're
going
to
be
getting.
R
O
With
this
this
site
plan,
it's
a
very
pleasant,
looking
development,
it's
all
functional.
I
H
B
B
C
C
Master
plan
and
apologize
I'm
a
little
bit
worse,
I,
don't
know
why
tonight
so.
M
I
C
Me
with
me
tonight
we
have
our
civil
engineering
team,
that
is
Ron
Bohannon
and
Vince
karika
and
Terry
Brown
and
Terry's,
the
one
that
did
the
traffic
study
for
us
and
they'll
be
available
during
the
question
and
answer
period.
If
we
have
specific
questions
about
that
item,
we.
C
Are
also
happy
to
have
the
owner
and
developer
Meridian
and
Mike
Khan
who's,
the
who's,
a
principal
in
the
chief
development
officer
and
Indigent
obey
Saker,
who
is
also
a
vice
president
for
Meridian,
so
with
that
I'm
going
to
just
for
one
second
walk
away
from
the
podium
and
let
Mike
and
introduce
you
to
who
Meridian
is
as
a
developer
and
owner
of.
M
R
Hey
good
evening,
thank
you.
Madam
chair,
Commissioners,
City,
Santa,
Fe
staff.
Thank
you
so
much
for
helping
get
our
project
over
the
line
and
get
on
the
agenda
tonight.
We
very
much
appreciate
it.
My
name
is
Mike
Khan
I'm,
principal
and
chief
development
officer
with
Meridian
representing
the
applicant
and
developer
for
the
project
ratings
of
full
service,
real
estate
owner
operator,
investor
and
developer
of
healthcare,
real
estate,
we're
based
in
Northern
California.
R
We
have
Regional
Offices
in
Seattle,
Utah,
Phoenix,
Southern,
California
and
and
doubts
Meridian
has
extensive
experience,
designing
and
titling
and
building
medical
facilities
throughout
the
western
United
States
we've
developed
over
three
million
square
feet
over
the
last
decade
for
some
of
the
preeminent
Healthcare
Systems
in
the
country.
Some
of
our
clients
include
Banner
Health,
Tucson,
Medical,
Center,
Cornerstone,
Behavioral,
Health,
John,
Mayer,
Northwest,
Medical,
Center,
Community.
R
Hospital
corporations
of
America
Simon
Med,
Kaiser,
Permanente,
Stanford,
Healthcare,
Sutter,
Health,
UCSF,
Health,
Providence
and
DaVita
Dialysis.
The
Meridian
team
of
experienced
professionals
provides
comprehensive,
Building
Solutions
to
meet
the
goals
of
his
clients,
in
conjunction
with
the
planning
and
development
guidelines
imposed
by
our
constituent
communities.
R
I
C
O
C
C
Thing
I'd
like
to
do
is
get
you
all
familiar
with
the
area,
as
you
can
see
on
this
particular
slide.
This
is
in
the
loss
of
Lara's
master
plan
and
the
grain
area
is,
is
the
site
approximately
18
acres
and
that's
4000
Beckner
Road,
and
then,
if
you
kind
of
look
around
and
I
think
my
cursor
here
will
work,
so
we
kind
of
look
at
what's
happening.
Obviously
there
are
other
medical.
I
C
I
C
C
C
C
I
C
Everything
from
commercial
to
residential
multi-family,
you
know
a
single
house
or
single
home
and
shopping
centers,
as
well
as
commercial
developments,
various
types,
including
medical
office.
So
just
to
kind
of,
let
you
all
you
know
kind
of
reacquaint
everyone
to
this
pretty
much
to
the
south
of
Beckner
road
is
where
the
heavier
more
commercial
uses
were
planned
and
intended,
and
you
can
see
this
from
the
zoning.
So
we
have
C1
C2
C1,
Business,
Industrial,
Park,
m-u-c-q,
CQ
shopping
center,
so
that's
kind
of
in
line
with
the
uses
for
the
master
plan
very.
M
C
C
So
as
we
look
at
again
just
kind
of
a
blow
up,
we've
been
looking
at
this
a
little
bit
further
away,
just
trying
to
show
the
site
plan
in
context
with
again
what's
happening
around
it.
So
one
of
the
questions
that
came
up
was
the
trail
system.
I
think
it's
a
great
question
and
if
you
take
it
all
the
way
to
Richards
and
look
what's
happening
with
the
Homewise
development,
there
you'll
see
this
Trail
on
the
east
side
of
Richards
and
it's
intended
to
go.
C
I
C
C
And
right
out
only
the
other
thing,
I
point
out
and
and
to
commissioner
pogba's
earlier
statement.
You
see
the
purple.
The
purple
is
actually
the
roofed
area.
This
is
the
building
footprint
and
compared
to
the
entire
site.
It
seems
rather
small
I,
suppose
there's,
maybe
some
goodness
in
that
that
we
didn't
build
a
bigger
building.
C
But
we
didn't
know
what
was
what
was
we
needed
for
our
needs,
but
I
think
it's
a
point
well
taken
and
I
want
to
comment
on
a
few
things
and
I'm
going
to
repeat
a
few
of
these
things
as
we
go
in
different
diagrams
and
reference
material.
But
one
of
the
things
that
we
really
try
to
do
because
we
were
sensitive
about
the
Sea
of
parking
is
from
the
Beckner
Road
approach.
C
C
C
Bit
over
that
is
actually
tight
for
this
kind
of
development
that
medical
office
has
a
lot
of
people
coming
and
going.
So.
The
other
thing
I
would
point
out
here
is
that
on
the
back
side
of
the
property,
where
we
have
more
of
the
parking,
we
are
buffered
somewhat
by
25
through
the
green
space,
that's
100
feet
in
width
and,
of
course,
the
the
hiking
trails.
There's
a
little
bit
of
birming
that's
happening
here
and.
C
All
along
that
parking
lot,
the
other
thing
that
I'll
point
out-
and
you
might
have
noticed
and
I'll
we'll
see
in
these
renderings-
is
that
the
building
on
the
I-25
side,
so
the
I-25b
quarter,
Corridor
presents
as
a
two-story
building,
even
though
it
is
a
three-story.
It
presents
its
two
on
that
side
and
I'll.
Show
you
how
that's
done
here
in
a
moment.
C
Okay,
so
just
quickly,
you
know
what
the
project
is:
18,
plus
minus
Acres
within
the
Lost
Solaris
Master
development
plan,
the
city
of
Santa
Fe,
is
confirmed.
The
zoning
is,
is
General
commercial,
C2
we've
also.
E
C
And
medical
office
use
is
permitted
by
Ryan
within
C2
districts.
The
allowable
Building
height
is
45
feet,
so
we're
proposing
95
000
square
feet.
It's
a
three-story
building,
the
building
height
will
be
no
higher
than
the
allowed
45
feet
and.
I
I
C
Per
thousand,
as
we
look
at
the
the
development
plan,
one
of
the
things
I'd
like
to
point
out
is:
we
are
trying
to
address
staff
comments
as
quick
as
we
can.
The
sidewalk
moves
all
the
way,
along
back
near
the
entire
length
of
the
property,
so
that
sidewalk
to
the
south
of
Beckner
does
not
exist
today,
except
for
a
few
areas
around
the
roundabout
and
then,
as
we
look
at
the
hiking
bike,
trail,
we've
extended
that
and
applying
and
agreed
to
the
condition
around
the
eight
feet
and
the
asphalt
understanding.
C
Little
bit
at
the
building
facade
a
little
bit
about
the
architecture,
so
not
going
into
too
many
details.
The
architecture
is
contemporary
and
style,
not
unlike
or
foreign
to
what
was
done
with
Presbyterian.
C
Or
Presbyterian
Medical
Center
under
currently
being
built
or
the
VA
medical
services.
If
there's
a
reference
to
the
Santa
Fe
style,
it's
going
to
be
Pueblo,
as
you
can
see,
with
the
size
of
the
windows,
with
the
way
the
massing
is
set
up
and
and
the
the
coloration
on
the
on
the
building
facade.
The
architecture
has
not
the
point
system
for
this
Santa
Fe
city
code.
C
Now
one
of
the
things
that
that
I
want
to
point
out
is
that
this
view
looking
Northwest
would
be
what
you
would
see
from
the
I-25
Corridor
now.
Obviously,
it's
a
little
different,
we're
a
lot
closer
to
the
building
here,
but
this
is
looking
Northwest,
so
you're
to
the
south
on
the
site,
and
if
you
note,
there's
quite
a
quite
a
drop
here-
and
this
is
a
berm
sloped
area-
that's
nicely
landscaped-
that
is
one
story
higher
than
the
front
of
the
building.
So
it
presents.
Is
this
two-story
building?
C
C
I
want
to
point
out
because,
as
we
look
at
the
the
side
on
Beckner
and
you
can
see
how
we're
screening
and
working
with
the
parking
lot
and
I'll
come
back
to
another,
drawing
if
I
need
to,
but
the
views
I
want
to
con.
You
know
contemplate
the
Visas
in
this
area,
primarily
they're,
this
angry
de
Cristo
to
the
east,
to
the
North
and
then
to
the
west
of
James.
This.
C
M
C
This
we
are
using,
as
Maggie
said,
passive
water
harvesting
and
that
passive
harvesting
is
primarily
all
of
these
wells
in
the
parking
lot
that
will
be
helping
mitigate
some
of
the
water
requirements
for
the
trees
and
shrubs
in
those
areas.
We
also
are
using
passive
harvesting
in
this
area,
where
my
cursors,
here
to.
C
Front
of
the
parking
lot
and
back
into
those
detention
areas,
of
course,
we're
we're
planting
drought,
tolerant,
shrubs
and
trees,
and
in
keeping
with
what
the
planning
list
is
for
the
City
of
Santa
Fe.
And,
of
course,
we
contemplate
areas
for
outdoor
seating
and
Gathering
is
being
designed
in
which,
for
folks
that
maybe
there
is
a
patient
might
be
a
nice
thing
or
people
visiting
or
with
patients
might
be
a
nice
thing,
while
they're
waiting.
C
Space
and
and
Maggie
Dimension
this
a
little
bit
too
so
the
way
that
the
open
space
is
calculated
in
this
case
is
that,
based
on
the
20
requirement
in
the
18
Acres,
we.
I
C
C
That
it
also
might
be
interesting
to
look
at
the
building
area,
just
just
because
we're
not
trying
to
to
you
know
to
fudge
or
use
the
fact
that
you
know
this
is
what
we're
building.
Even
the
building
area
itself
is
responsible
in
that
regard.
In
that
171
000
55
square
feet
would
be
provided
when
you
just
look
at
this
boundary.
So
just
between
the
two
drives,
and
in
that,
in
that
case,
80
000
would
be
required
at
twenty
percent.
C
C
At
the
the
the
availability
of
the
land
that
we
could
have
developed
on
or
could
have
spread
that
building
out.
C
You
know
just
a
couple
of
sites
and
design
benefits
that
we've
just
that
we've
probably
talked
about
we'll
reiterate
so
again.
I
just
wanted
to
confirm
that
the
nearest
point
from
Beckner
to
the
to
the
nearest
point
on
the
building
on
that
South
Side
is
is
at
least
190
feet.
It
goes
more
as
you
move
across
back
near
to
the
West.
The
parking
is
set
back
and
screened
from
back
in
the
road.
C
The
project
will
complete,
of
course,
a
sidewalk
on
the
south
side
of
Beckner
Road
within
the
property
line,
and
the
project
will
be
the
first
to
build
a
portion
of
this
Envision
lost.
C
C
C
I
E
I
C
I
O
Yeah,
thank
you.
Madam
chair
I
noticed
during
Mr
Khan's
presentation.
The
phrase
radiation
oncology
among
included,
but
not
could
include
among
the
many
specialties
I
I'm,
not
sure.
If
I
saw
floor
plans
in
the
applicant
submittals,
maybe
they
were
I
might
have
missed
them.
Is
there
at
this
time
any
contemplation
of
anything
like
a
line
act
in
this
building
or
so-called
Cancer
Center.
C
C
I
O
I
O
And
it's
fine,
it's
all!
It's
a
C2,
Zone
I
just
find
it
very
interesting
for
the
record
that
we
just
reviewed
a
case
from
another
medical
facility
for
a
Cancer
Center,
and
it's
it's
rather
controversial
and
I
just
want
to
put
that
out
there
on
the
record
that
this
building
seems
to
have
a
potentially
competing
a
business.
C
I
I
E
C
I
J
I
appreciate
the
passive
water
harvesting
and
the
site
plan
in
general,
hiding
the
parking
in
the
back
great
I,
just
always
think
when
you
have
this
much
asphalt.
If,
if
some
of
that,
particularly
that
would
be
identified
as
perhaps
overflow
parking,
it
just
makes
that
less
water
having
to
go
into
a
huge
retention,
partnering
and.
C
J
K
E
C
Madam,
chair
I'll,
sit
down,
of
course,
but.
I
C
There's,
if
there
are
comments
and
I
would
like
to.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
anyway.
So
we'll
open
up
the
public
hearing
portion,
anyone
hear
from
the
public.
A
A
O
Foreign.
Thank
you.
In
the
matter
of
case
2022-5621,
4000
Vector
wrote.
That's
not
right
as
it
is
that
the
road
development
plan
or
Ryan
West,
so
on
so
forth.
Motion
for
approval,
based
on
the
recommendation
motion
to
approve
the
development
plan
so
to
conditions
of.
E
B
Q
E
E
A
Okay,
we'll
move
on
any
matters
from
staff.
H
I'm
Madam
chair,
thank
you.
Members
of
the
commission.
I
just
wanted
to
give
a
few
updates
from
some
notes
from
previous
meetings
for
the
October
6th
meeting
of
the
Planning
Commission.
We
have
Jesse
roach
from
the
Water
Division
who's,
going
to
be
giving
a
presentation
for
the
for
the
Planning
Commission
in
November
we're
looking
at
holding
a
meeting
tentatively
on
the
South
side
at
Cesar,
Chavez
Elementary
School
I.
Am
we
looked
into
the
South
Side
Library
and
they'll
be
holding
early
voting
on
November
3rd
I.
H
Hard
to
imagine,
but
yes,
it's
coming
up,
and
so
we
we're
going
to
be
doing
some
site
visits
and
some
things
over
the
next
week
or
so
and
should
have
confirmation
at
the
October
meeting
of
what
we're
planning
on
doing
for
November
I
do
want
to
let
you
know
that
we
are
inching
closer
to
assigned
contract
on
the
chapter.
14
code
development.
You
know
code
update,
so
that
is
hopefully
again
in
a
month's
time.
I'll
have
that
you
know
signed
and
ready
to
go.
H
We
also
are
moving
on
the
general
plan
process,
we're
holding
and
scheduling
more
internal
meetings
with
City
leadership
and
executive
staff,
we're
working
on
a
survey
that
we
will
send
out
to
members
of
the
Planning
Commission
other
elected
officials
and
Leadership
to
just
start
to
get
some
initial
feedback
on
the
general
plan
as
it
is
and
what
we
would
like
to
be
seeing
going
forward
in
the
update
and,
and
that
will
also
you
know,
help
us
inform
you
know
what
that
RFP
looks
like
as
well
so
and
then
I
also
did
want
to
note
commissioner
pava
reached
out
and
said
that
the
New
Mexico
APA
has
a
reduced
rate
or
a
discounted
rate
for
public
officials.
H
Sixty
dollars,
I
believe
for
that
New
Mexico
APA
conference.
That's
coming
up
at
the
end
of
October,
it's
going
to
be
held
in
Albuquerque
and
you
know,
staff
certainly
recommends
you
know
if
any
Commissioners
are
able
to
attend
to
attend
that
we
do
have
a
number
of
Staff
going
as
well
to
participate
in
that
meeting
down
there.
So
that
was
all
I
had
on
my
list
for
tonight.
E
Thank
you,
madam
chair
I,
just
wanted
to
get
a
I
wonder
if
I
can
get
a
copy
of
Mr
Hernandez's
presentation
on
the
Midtown
development.
H
Yeah
Madam
chair
commissioner
Lucero
I
do
have
a
copy
of
that
and
I
can
share
it
with
you
all.
G
I
just
wanted
to
update
the
full
commission
on
some
of
the
things
that
the
policy
subcommittee
is
working
on
right
now.
I
think
the
most
significant
thing
we're
working
on
is
we're
working
with
counselors
of
worth
and
cassett
to
develop,
possibly
a
new
e
n
process
or
we're
in
the
midst
of
reviewing
it
and
kind
of
identifying
what
we
might
want
to
revisit
or
change.
Possibly
I.
Don't
think
we
have
a
direction
necessarily
right
now,
but
we
have
started
that
process.
G
We
have
a
working
document
that
staff
and
the
policy
subcommittee
are
working
on.
Some
of
the
other
initiatives
are
cannabis.
Consumption
will
probably
come
up.
The
Innovation
Village
review
of
that
will
probably
come
up
what
else
Jason
there's
something
else:
I
still
have
covid
brain
anyway.
Those
are
the
those
are
some
of
the
things
we're
working
on,
and
so
oh.
I
G
K
E
K
K
The
right
forum
and
whatever
but
I,
made
a
valiant
effort
this
week
to
understand
the
Caper
plan
on
affordable
housing
have
to
confess
that
it's
a
blizzard
of
noise
and
data
and
I'm
wondering
if
we
can
get
at
some
point
where
we
have
15
minutes
on
the
agenda.
Somebody
could
come
and
started
out
because
I
think
they're
using
the
same
data
17
times
in
17
different
ways
to
say
the
same
thing
but
I
I
serious
about
affordable
housing,
I.
D
D
D
So
you
know
we
do
have
the
line
development
code,
update
coming
up
and
part
of
phase
two
will
be
to
you
know,
undertake
you
know
strategic
changes
to
the
to
the
code.
You
know,
for
example,
addressing
you
know
the
the
development.
I
D
Continue
to
work
with
them
to
help.
In
the
background
to
you
know,
process
some
of
these
large
bore
initiatives
that
will
involve.
You
know
major
changes
to
the
to
the
coding
phase
two,
and
we
have
about
a
you
know:
I'm
guessing
like
a
year
and
a
half
to
do
that,
more
or
less
and
so
yeah.
Just
to
you.
D
A
couple
I
think
you
know:
plr
talked
about
the
apartment.
Commissioner
Faulkner
talked
about
the
en
Community
engagement
process.
We
want
to,
you,
know,
get
going
on
that
and
that
will
be
integral
to
the
you
know:
phase
two
of
the
land
of
element
code
and
then
yeah,
potentially
cannabis
consumption,
one
other
one
is
one
other
big
one
is
an
outdoor,
dining
ordinance.
D
I
think
we
want
to
do
that
and
then,
obviously,
just
to
you
know,
help
with
the
processing,
and
you
know
as
stakeholders
on
the
general
Plan
update
and
and
the
and
the
code
update
in
general.
So
there
will
be
some
of
these
more.
You
know
large
large
core
initiatives,
so
to
speak,
that
we
will.
G
There
is
potential
on
the
policy
committee
that,
as
we
take
on
different
issues
as
chair,
I,
might
rotate
people
out
of
the
committee
and
rotate
other
members
onto
the
committee,
given
their
background
or
expertise.
So
anyone
is
interested
in
any
of
these
topics
and
has
feels
like
they
have
some
background
that
could
help.
We
can
only
keep
four
members
on
there,
but
I
think
we
can
give
everybody
a
shot
of
being
on
that
committee.
Who
wants
to
be
involved
in
the
different
issues.