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A
A
Good
evening,
the
july
7th
2022
planning
commission
meeting
is
in
session
melissa.
Could
you
please
do
the
roll
call?
Yes.
C
D
A
A
Moving
to
the
agenda
does
staff
have
any
amendments
to
the
agenda.
E
E
And
then
case,
2022
5393
7261
airport
road
development
plan
will
be
postponed
to
august
4th
2022.
A
C
B
As
far
as
I
know
not
for
these
types-
okay,
you
don't
just.
A
Always
only
on
zoom,
okay,
so
everyone
in
agreement
with
the
agenda
say
aye.
F
E
The
newly
appointed
chair
of
the
planning
commission
by
mayor
webber
welcome
commissioner
clow
I'd
like
to
say
that
I've
seen
her
bring
in
valuable
insight
and
experience
and
common
and
a
common
sense
approach
to
her
role
as
a
commissioner
and
we're
very
happy
to
have
her
in
the
new
leadership
role
she's
replacing
commissioner
brian
gutierrez,
who
we
all
know
and
love
and
served
this
commission
well
and
I'd
like
to
thank
him
for
his
service.
As
a
commissioner
and
his
role
as
the
commissioner
chair.
E
As
the
commission
chair,
we
also
have
a
couple
of
new
members,
phil
lucero
and
chev
morando,
so
commissioner
morando
has
been
appointed
to
district
one
to
the
district
one
receipt
seat
replacing
commissioner
gutierrez
and
commissioner
lucero
has
been
appointed
to
the
district
4c
to
replace
commissioner
dominic
cetina.
G
E
Correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
yeah
and
commissioner
cloud,
if
you
like
to
say
a
few
words
and
allow
commissioner
morando
and
commissioner
lucero
introduce
themselves,
and
I
just
like
to
welcome
you
all
into
your
new
roles
in
the
planning
commission
and
thank
you
for
your
commitment
and
your
service.
A
I
guess
welcome,
and
it's
really
nice
to
have
a
full
commission.
That
means
we're
likely
to
have
enough
attendance
to
not
have
to
cancel
meetings.
Would
each
of
you
like
to
say
give
us
a
little
bit
about
your
background
and
give
us
some
information
that
we
could
start
with.
Commissioner
lucero.
C
All
right,
thank
you,
commissioner
clow.
My
name
is
phil
lucero,
I'm
a
santa
fe
native
and
I
have
lived
here.
Most
of
my
life
lived
in
albuquerque
for
a
while
as
well.
I've
been
in
education,
but
maybe
in
a
non-traditional
sense.
All
my
life,
I've
never
been
a
classroom
teacher.
My
background
is
in
positive
youth
engagement,
and
so
I
find
myself
often
working
with
young
people
in
interesting
situations.
Right
now,
I'm
the
education
director
at
cavu,
which
clint
which
stands
for
climate
advocacy
unitas.
C
We
do
we
use
filmmaking
as
a
means
for
storytelling
about
the
climate,
and
I
bring
a
curriculum
and
a
competition
to
the
schools
around
new
mexico
and
around
the
country.
So
it's
a
passion
of
mine
to
engage
young
people
in
positive
things
in
their
community
and
I
will
look
for
you
know
that
sort
of
input,
even
in
this,
in
this
role.
So
thank
you.
H
Hi,
my
name
is
mirando.
A
lot
of
people
know
me
as
shep
because
of
it
is
a
mouthful
I
work
for
lloyd
and
associates
and
architecture
firm
in
town
and
as
a
an
architectural
designer,
and
you
know
I'm
just
very
honored
to
be
a
part
of
this
commission.
I
have
a
great
interest
in
development
within
santa
fe
and
otherwise
in
this
region
of
the
world
and
just
a
pleasure
to
be
a
part.
F
A
Your
agreement
to
volunteer
to
be
on
the
planning
commission,
it
can
be
lots
of
work,
but
it's
rewarding.
Next
we
go
to
matter
e
appointments,
so
I,
as
chair,
have
the
I
guess
authority
to
appoint
the
vice
chair
and
the
secretary.
A
I
asked
jessica
lawrence
who's
on
vacation.
If
she
would
serve-
and
she
said
she
would.
I
chose
her
because
she's
been
on
the
commission
as
long
as
I
have
she's
also
she's
practical,
level-headed
and
has
a
lot
of
planning
experience
as
to
secretary
I
appointed
peter
smith
and
because
I
always
think
secretary
should
be
a
man.
So
that's
why
I
asked
peter
smith
to
do
that.
A
Okay:
next,
we
go
to
matter
f,
which
is
the
approval
of
the
june
2nd
2022
minutes.
Are
there
any
does
staff
have
any
changes
to
the
june
2nd
2022
minutes
chair
clout?
No,
we
do
not.
Okay,
thank
you
and
do
any
of
the
commissioners
have
any
changes
to
the
june
2nd
2022
minutes,
if
not
I'll,
entertain
a
motion
to
prove.
D
Mr
madam
chair
motion
to
approve
the
june
22nd
2022
minutes.
A
Commissioner,
is
there
a
second.
C
A
Everyone
in
agreement
with
the
june
2nd
20
22
minutes
as
they
stand.
I
guess
let's
raise
her
hand,
so
go
ahead
and
raise
your
hand,
so
no
one
in
opposition,
the
minute
some
are
approved.
A
Next,
we
move
to
matter
g,
which
is
the
approval
of
findings
of
facts
and
conclusions
of
law.
The
first
finding
the
facts
and
conclusions
of
law
is
case.
2021-4379.
A
Is
there
a
second
and
we
don't
need
a
roll
call
on
that?
Okay,
so
everyone
in
agreement
with
the
findings
of
facts
and
conclusions
of
law
in
case
number
2021-4379.
A
C
A
A
A
Hey
there's
been
a
motion
to
approve
in
a
second
everyone
in
favor.
Please
raise
your
hand.
K
A
A
If
not
I'll,
entertain
a
motion?
A
L
M
M
Technology
has
actually
been
upgraded
and
is
a
slightly
different,
so
we'll
figure
this
out,
but
thank
you
very
much
for
having
me
here
and
for
your
time
and
your
thoughts
and
your
your
consideration
of
this
really
important
topic.
I
really
appreciate
that.
Oh
there
I
am
and
welcome
to
the
new
members.
I
look
forward
to
working
with
you
and
madam
chair
your
your
first
meeting
in
the
in
the
big
chair.
M
Thank
you
so
much
so
for
those
of
you
who
did
not
hear
my
name,
I'm
alexandra
ladd,
I'm
the
director
for
the
city's
office
of
affordable
housing,
and
that
is
my
email
address
for
anyone
who
would
have
follow-up
questions
after
the
presentation.
I'm
happy
to
talk
about
them.
E
I
apologize
just
one
second,
madam
chair:
should
we
move
this
screen,
so
you
all
can
see
better
or
is
it
okay?
We,
the
the
large
screen,
okay,.
M
So
I
wanted
to
quickly
start
with
what
is
the
office
of
affordable
housing,
because
most
people
in
the
community
think
we
are
the
housing
authority,
but
we
are
not.
We
do
not
manage
housing
units,
we
do
not
provide
assistance
directly
to
anybody.
We
do
our
work
through
a
network
of
non-profit
and
other
governmental
entities
in
the
community.
M
We
also
implement
the
inclusionary
zoning
law
regulation,
which
is
why
all
of
you
see
me
up
here,
which
is
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that,
but
it
it
requires
that
a
percentage
of
new
development
is
priced
affordably.
It
also
covers
the
fair
housing
act,
the
federal
fair
housing
act.
The
other
thing,
the
other
big
thing
we
do
is
invest.
We
invest
in
affordable
housing,
programs
and
projects.
M
We
do
a
lot
of
policy
and
research.
We
try
to
embody
promising
practices
and
are
continually
improving
our
game
in
that
in
that
area,
and
then
a
lot
of
community
engagement
and
outreach
both
related
to
our
efforts.
We
probably
don't
do
enough.
I
think
people
don't
know
what
we
do
in
the
community,
so
we're
working
on
that
as
well,
but
we
get
a
lot
of
phone
calls,
so
people
seeking
housing
and
we
do
a
lot
of
referral
to
the
right
agency
and
service
in
town.
G
M
F
M
You
just
had
that
one
program
you
could
solve
the
affordable
housing
crisis
and
it's
just
not
true.
Not
only
do
we
have
to
look
at
it
through
a
combination
of
policy
and
regulation
and
financing
on
capacity
building,
but
we
also
have
to
look
at
the
very
the
array
of
different
needs
and
I'm
sorry
I
liked
this
graphic.
It
doesn't
fit
unless
it's
really
small.
So
I
broke
it
up.
M
So
it's
a
little
funny
looking,
but
you
can
kind
of
get
the
feeling
that
it's
going
from
someone
who
is
unhoused
not
does
not
have
housing
all
the
way
to
somebody
who
might
have
needs
to
maintain
the
home
that
they
own
and
the
idea
is
that,
like
a
chain,
it's
only
as
strong
as
the
strong
is
the
weakest
link
right.
So
if
we
do
great
home
ownership,
home
buyer
support
programs,
but
we
don't
have
affordable
rental,
we're
not
going
to
have
folks
who
are
in
a
financial
position
and
ready
to
buy
a
home.
M
M
Oh
here
we
go
so
this
the
area.
Median
income
is
a
statistic
determined
by
hud
for
every
jurisdiction
in
the
nation.
It
looks
at
a
variety
of
factors,
population
and
demographic
data.
What
it
comes
up
with
is
is
a
income
percentile,
that's
adjusted
by
family
size.
So
the
idea
is
that
a
larger
family
has
to
spend
more
money
on
food
and
shoes
and
stuff,
so
they
can
earn
more
and
still
be
considered
in
that
income
percentile
this.
This
is
the
statistic
that
every
single
housing
subsidy
program
uses.
M
What
it's
based
on
is
the
assumption
that
a
housing
is
affordable.
If
the
payment
is
no
more
than
about
a
third
of
somebody's
monthly
income,
paying
more
than
that
is
considered
cost
burden,
paying
more
than
50
percent
is
extremely
cost
burden.
When
you
look
at
that
table,
30
percent
and
below,
we
consider
those
more
of
our
special
needs
population.
Folks
65,
is
our
is
the
cut
off
for
most
subsidized
rental
programs.
M
80
is
the
cut
off
for
federal
housing
programs
and
120
percent
is
the
cut
off
for
what
the
new
mexico
affordable
housing
act,
which
is
our
exemption
to
an
anti-donation
clause?
That's
the
limit.
We
can
provide
government
resources
to
folks
earning
up
to
that
limit.
M
And
again,
using
that
ami
statistic:
here's
how
we
calculate
what's
affordable,
so
you
can
see
for
a
one
person,
household
earning
30
percent.
In
that
first
blue
column,
a
rent
of
424
dollars
a
month
would
be
considered
affordable.
So
that's
kind
of
how
that
table
works,
the
affordable
home
price
by
income
range.
This
is
the
pricing
table
schedule
that
we
use
for
the
santa
fe
homes
program.
So
again,
it
looks
at
an
income
range
calculates.
What
is
an
affordable
monthly
payment?
M
It
has
a
few
more
things
to
consider
like
what
the
prevailing
interest
rates
are.
This
year
prices
went
up
because
we
used
last
year's
interest
rate,
which
was
super
super
low
and
then
guess
what
happened
so
suddenly,
these
prices
are
higher
than
they
should
be
if
we
were
using
today's
interest
rate,
so
we'll
be
adjusting
that
next
year
for
sure,
but
you
can
kind
of
get
a
sense
also
of
how
the
the
whole
prices
are
both
adjusted
by
the
number
of
bedrooms
in
the
income
range.
M
So
I
think
it
seems
sort
of
obvious,
but
really-
and
I'm
not
an
economist.
So
hopefully,
I'm
not
misrepresenting
supply
versus
demand,
but
really
this
is
what
is
driving
a
huge
part
of
our
affordability
crisis
right
now
and
what
happens
when
we
have
limited
inventory.
The
first
thing
that
happens
is
that
the
prices
reset
to
the
highest
capacity
to
pay
and
what
we
know
when
we
look
at
our
data-
and
this
is
coming.
M
This
is
true
of
our
emerging
data
from
from
two
new
studies
that
will
be
released
somewhat
soon,
both
one
for
the
state
and
one
for
the
county.
But
what
we
know
is
that
there's
a
dearth
of
of
units
just
inventory
even
for
the
higher
end,
higher
income,
renters
and
home
buyers
renters
mostly,
and
so
what
that
means
is
that
landlords
can
raise
their
rents,
even
though
their
properties
might
not
be
of
the
highest
quality.
And
so,
when
you
don't
add
new
inventory.
F
M
There
starts
to
be
a
really
big
squeeze
on
the
market
and
we've
seen
that
over
the
last
five
or
six
years
with
vacancy
rates
almost
functionally
zero
they're.
I
think
that
statistically
they're
three
percent,
but
that's
really
just
turnover
of
units
in
between
renters
and
rents,
going
up
and
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that.
We've
seen
ripple
effects
from
the
pandemic
and
I
don't
even
want
to
predict
what
other
ripples
are
coming
our
way
because
it's
it
has
not
been
anything
predictable.
M
Of
course,
as
all
of
you
know,
we
do
have
some
some
some
of
the
the
generations
worth
of
in
migration,
but
particularly
recently,
the
zoom
boom,
which
is
amplifying
our
market,
the
high
value
of
our
market,
compared
to
what
people
here
actually
earn.
So
if
you
are
living
here
and
you
have
an
income
based
on
the
economy
here,
you
housing
costs
are
out
of
your
reach
for
for
most
people.
So
it's
kind
of
gets
back.
M
That
idea
of
the
people
with
higher
incomes
are
out
competing
the
people
with
lower
incomes,
and
then
we
know
that
when
we
talk
about
government
housing
resources
and
mostly
this
would
be
federal
housing
resources,
the
biggest
portion
of
which
is
public
housing.
You
may
know
it
as
section
8
rental
assistance.
M
So
here
just
some
indicators,
since
2014
market
rate
rents
have
increased
by
46
percent.
We
know
that
half
of
all
rent
are
households
in
santa
fe
are
cost
burdened
they're,
paying
more
than
30
percent
of
their
income
for
for
rent
and
for
those
at
lower
incomes.
You
know
a
majority
of
them
are
cost
burden
in
the
home
buyer
market.
65
of
our
families
can't
afford
the
median
price
home.
M
I
should
probably
adjust
that
number,
because
I
think
the
median
price
just
went
up
and
then
again
back
to
this
vacancy
rate,
which
continues
to
put
pressure
upward
pressure
on
rents.
M
The
housing
wage
gap
is
sort
of
an
interesting
statistic
that
the
national,
low-income
housing
coalition
coalition,
I
think,
puts
together
and
it
looks
at
if
you
look
at
what
the
market
rents
are.
How
much
does
an
earner
in
this
market
have
to
make
per
hour
and
then
compare
that
to
how
much
they
actually
make
per
hour
and
so
in
santa
fe?
It's
about
a
seven
dollar
gap
per
hour,
and
this
is
for
a
two
bedroom
apartment.
M
This
is
not
for
a
big
huge
house
and
for
the
home
buyer,
the
80
percent
of
the
area
needed
income
earner,
who's
considered
our
focus
home
buyer
for
the
cdbg
mortgage
assistance
program,
because
that's
the
limit
for
cdbg.
You
know
this
is
a
very
sort
of
workforce
income.
M
M
This
is
a
table
that
the
this
is
from
the
draft
report
that
hasn't
quite
been
released
yet
from
the
state
of
new
mexico
from
the
mortgage
finance
authority
and
it
shows
the
home
home
value
versus
income,
and
you
can
see
that
santa
fe
is
way
above
everybody
else.
M
M
The
city
does
many
many
things
to
also
support
supply.
We've
donated
city-owned
land.
Those
are
three
recent
projects.
We
provide
fee
waivers
and
reductions
for
developers
who
are
providing
affordably
priced
units.
We
provide
in
the
code
there's
a
15
density
bonus
in
addition
to
what
the
entitled
density
is.
We
prioritize
our
water
bank
supply,
which
means
it's
low
cost
or
free
for
those
units,
and
then
we
provide
direct
financial
subsidy
to
projects
through
our
affordable
housing
trust
fund
in
the
community
development
block
grant.
So
we
actually
invest
cash
resources
into
these
projects.
M
So
I
also
wanted
to
sort
of
blow
up
the
myth
a
little
bit
that
all
the
affordable
housing
is
in
district.
Three.
Well,
all
of
the
affordable
subsidized
rental
is
not
it's
actually
predominantly
in
district
2..
Now
this
is
somewhat
of
a
function
of
land
use
and
land
development
patterns.
When
a
lot
of
that
housing
was
built
which
would
have
been
in
the
60s
and
70s
district
2
was
on
the
outskirts
of
town.
M
So
that's
where
the
cheap
available
land
was
now
we're
starting
to
see
that
shift
more
into
district
four,
where
there's
more
developable
land
than
in
other
parts
of
town.
So
that's
we've
seen
more
development
activity
in
district
four,
but
I
just
want
to
imprint
this
graph
on
everybody's
brains,
because
I
think
it's
it's
easy
to
hear.
People
say
that
over
and
over
again-
and
it's
not
actually
100
true.
M
So
what
are
our
results?
Because
of
through
our
inclusionary
program?.
M
So
this
is
for
this
is,
for
the
last
year,
no
wait.
What
is
this?
I,
you
know
what
I'm
missing
a
one
on
this.
This
should
be
120.
I
was
like
wait.
That
number
is
way
too
low,
so
so
well,
over
a
hundred
residents
have
bought
affordably
priced
homes
from
private
developers
as
a
result
of
inclusionary
zoning,
and
we
have
almost
300
more
units
in
construction.
Now
we
have
45
about
45
projects
have
have
inclusionary.
Zoning
have
affordable
units
included
in
them.
M
And
let's
see
and
we've
got,
we've
got
our
first
inclusionary
rental
homes
coming
forward
and
under
review,
and
I'm
super
excited
about
that,
and
these
will
serve
renters
earning
100
of
very
meaning
income.
Unless
and
then
in
the
last
six
months
we
have
two
brand
new
100,
affordable
projects
that
are
fully
leased
up
and
have
some
residents
earning
less
than
60
of
the
area
median
income,
but
within
a
range.
So
some
of
them
are
earning
30
percent.
M
Some
of
them
are
earning
40
to
50
we're
learning
how
to
do
this
piece
of
the
subsidy
puzzle
better.
It
used
to
be
that
the
limit
was
set
at
60
and
everybody
earned
59,
because
that's
that
that
was
the
affordable
rent
was
set
to
the
limit
and
great
for
those
renters
in
that
that
little
thin
bracket
up
there,
but
not
so
great
for
the
renters
who
who
didn't
earn
that
and
so
the
especially
through
the
tax
credit
program,
which
is
a
federal
subsidy.
M
So
this
graph
shows
the
projected
needs.
This
is
from
the
state
study.
This
looks
at
projected
needs,
so
this
doesn't
look
at
the
current
gap
in
inventory,
so
you
can
see
that
in
santa
fe,
for
instance,
how
you
read
this
is
for
the
renters
earning
from
zero
to
30
percent.
M
So
how
do
we
support
demand?
Really
supporting
demand
is
expanding
capacity
and
it
we
do
it
a
couple
different
ways:
we
expand
capacity
of
the
services
providers,
but
also
the
capacity
of
the
individuals
who
are
trying
to
attain
housing,
because
if
somebody,
if
their
rent
is
unaffordable,
but
you
make
the
rent
affordable
to
them,
you've
just
increased
their
capacity
to
afford
housing.
So
that's
kind
of
two
different
sides
of
how
we
increase
in
support
capacity
and
just
to
give
you
a
quick
idea
of
here's,
how
we
use
funds.
M
We
get
about
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
year
in
federal
from
our
federal
grant.
The
majority
goes
to
mortgage
assistance
and
it
has
to
serve
residents
earning
less
than
80
of
area
median
income.
M
This
is
the
affordable
housing
trust
fund.
These
are
local
funds.
The
governing
body
has
approved
funding
this
fund
in
the
amount
of
three
million
per
year
for
the
last
three
years,
so
that,
prior
to
this,
we
did
not
have
a
reliable
source
of
revenue.
But
the
really
exciting
thing
about
this
money
is
that
it,
the
leverage
potential,
is
huge.
M
The
city
requires
that
anyone
applying
for
the
funds
brings
three
dollars
of
their
own
money
to
the
table,
so
that's
just
for
the
bare
minimum,
but
what
we've
seen
over
time
is
that
new
construction
generally
leverages
about
10
dollars
for
every
one
dollar
of
city
money.
Mortgage
assistance
leverages
somewhere
around
14,
sometimes
as
high
as
19.
Sometimes
it's
12,
but
you
know
it's
kind
of
in
that
area.
M
M
And
then
what
does
that
look
like
when
you
think
about
real
people?
We
in
one
year
we've
helped
about
300
people,
300
renters
either
keep
homes
or
pay
for
hotel
stays
or
find
new
homes.
M
The
two
projects
I
talked
about
before
100,
affordable
they're,
also
both
one
of
them
is
the
first
solar
100
solar
tax
credit
project
in
the
state.
The
other
one
is,
is
leed
certified.
27
families
became
home
buyers
using
city
provided
down
payment
assistance,
so
they
were
either.
Sometimes
some
of
them
were
buying
homes
built
by
nonprofits,
so
for-profit
developers,
some
were
buying
homes,
existing
homes
in
the
market,
and
then
we
assisted
13
homeowners,
many
of
them
single
female-headed
households
who
were
elderly
with
emergency
home
repairs.
M
Oh
we've
already
seen
that
one,
and
then
I
just
wanted
to
leave
you
with.
We've
got
a
whole
bunch
more
data
coming
down
the
pike,
so
this
this
presentation
in
three
or
four
months
is
gonna,
have
a
lot
more,
a
lot
more
juice
in
it
august
16th,
I
believe,
is
the
projected
release
of
all
of
the
detailed
data
tables
for
the
census.
M
M
Now,
I'm
going
to
leave
you
some
beautiful
pictures,
because
anyone
who
says
affordable
housing
is
cheap
and
ugly
and
terrible
and
will
ruin
my
property
values
has
never
seen
our
affordable
housing
here
in
santa
fe.
That
is
also
another
myth
and
affordable
housing
is
high
quality
and
well
maintained
and
well
operated.
It
does
not
bring
down
property
values.
The
stagecoach
motoring
is
one
of
my
favorite
projects.
Ever
this
was
a
historic
route.
M
66
motel
that
had
fallen,
a
lot
of
sort
of
junky
stuff
had
been
added,
and
then
it
had
fallen
into
disrepair
over
the
years
and,
I
think
was
abandoned.
The
housing
trust
bought
it
ripped
down
all
the
bad
stuff
restored,
the
original
hotel
rooms,
using
historic
tax
credits
and
then
built
these
really
cool,
modern
town
homes,
for
families
to
live
in
that
have
both
a
front
patio
and
a
backyard
which
is
really
a
great
thing
for
families
and
not
always
found
in
apartments
for
sure
styler
yard.
M
Again,
this
is
our
first,
and
this
is
a
rendition.
We
can
go
out
there
and
take
a
picture
of
the
real
place.
It's
even
better.
Looking
in
person,
first
100
solar
tax,
credit
property
in
new
mexico,
and
it
is
a
true
mixed
use-
property.
The
many
of
the
folks
living
there
are
running
businesses
out
of
their
units.
The
units
are
designed
so
that
people
can
hang
art
can
have.
Art
shows
there's
extra
insulation
to
help
with
folks
who
might
have
musicians.
M
There's
a
lot
of
shared
outdoor
space.
There's
a
really
beautiful
community
garden,
an
amphitheater
and
and
a
quarter
of
those
units
are
set
aside
for
very
low
income,
renters
earning
less
than
thirty
percent
and
then
tierra
contenta
phase
three
is
going
to
be
the
next
big,
affordable
housing
addition
to
our
inventory
right
now.
23
homes
are
built
with
a
forty
percent
affordability
achievement
phase
three
will
be
approximately
1500
more
homes,
including
parks
and
open
space,
community
amenities,
and
there
is
a
school
site,
and
the
idea
here
is
to
bring
back
a
mixed
zoning
category.
A
Alexander,
thank
you.
That's
really
informative.
It's
nice
seeing
what
the
fruits
of
what
we
worked
on
the
last
number
of
years,
and
I
think
it's
important
really
important
to
note
that
a
lot
of
the
decisions
that
have
been
made
by
the
planning
commission
over
the
last
number
of
years
have
taken
into
account
issues
that
you
are
raising
in
these
slides
and
that,
while
at
times
neighborhoods
are
upset,
I
think
the
overall
concern
of
the
planning
commission
is
to
make
sure
that
people
have
affordable,
safe
places
to
live.
So
thank
you.
D
Presentation
alexandra:
I
have
a
couple
questions
that
that,
based
on
what
you
presented
this
evening-
and
I
know
that
the
city
has
has
lands
a
lot
of
it-
is
infill
small
parcels
here
and
there
there
are
also
some
relatively
very
large
parcels
on
the
north
side
on
the
northwest
quadrant.
D
Is
there
anything
in
the
works
with
these
strategies
to
to
provide
some
of
the
northwest
quadrant
housing
that
might
eventually
be
built
as
affordable
realizing?
Of
course,
it
is
kind
of
distant
from
the
city
center
and
whatnot.
But
what
do
you?
What
do
you
think,
commissioner?.
M
Clow,
madam
chair,
commissioner,
pava,
that's
a
great
question,
and
that
is
a
huge
land
resource
for
us.
You
know
it's,
it's
not
super.
It's
not
super
easy
to
develop
because
of
the
training
and
the
need
for
lift
stations
and
other
kinds
of
infrastructure
that
will
be
super
expensive.
M
So
we
haven't
quite
figured
out
as
a
planner
and
I'm
sure
you'll
appreciate
this
so
sort
of
rushing
forward
to
get
that
affordable
housing
without
having
a
good
plan
for
the
entire
area
is,
is
important
to
me,
but
there
are
certainly
some
carve-outs
from
those
big
parcels
that
are
very
much
more
easily
developable
in
a
much
quicker
time
frame.
M
So
we
will
we.
In
fact
we
just
had
a
meeting
about
it
today,
we're
looking
at
several
city
sites,
we're
going
to
have
a
feasibility
study
done
to
just
kind
of
figure
out
how
some
of
those
sites
are
not
developed
because
they
can't
be
developed
for
a
variety
of
reasons,
but
we're
going
to
try
we're
going
to
figure
out
what
what
are
the
feasibility
factors
and
what
does
it
take
to
make
those
sites
affordable
to
develop.
D
Very
impressed
with
what
I
see
with
the
silo
road
project
and
some
of
the
others
that
you
mentioned
and
highlighted,
with
a
variety
of
housing,
types
and
accommodations
for
the
progression
of
of
being
on
house
to
being
fully
housed.
A
second
question
I
have
I
retired
from
los
alamos
two
years
ago
and
at
that
time,
and
currently
the
laboratory
is
expanding,
their
budget
has
doubled
it's
an
incredible
four
billion
dollars,
or
at
least
that's
what's
proposed,
that's
an
awful
lot
of
people.
Okay,
I
was
a
land.
D
F
D
Lab
and
I
pointed
out
the
management-
a
little
problem
about
los
alamos
being
deficient
in
housing,
and
where
are
these
people
going
to
be
housed?
Well,
of
course
the
assumption
is
they'll
be
in
santa
fe,
and
do
you
have
a
sense
at
this
point?
How
lab
growth
has
been
impacting
the
housing
market
here.
M
M
D
F
D
To
me,
it
seems
like
this
is
a
classic
externality
wasted
on
communities
around
los
alamos
which
has
not
been
able
or
capable
of
dealing
with
its
housing
shortage
situation.
M
Commissioner
pava,
I
don't
think
any
affordable
housing
in
this
town
is
provided
or
supported
without
the
city's
involvement
home
wise
wouldn't
exist
if
it
weren't
for
the
city's
early
support
and
capacity
building
for
the
organization
itself,
but
every
single
year
we
fund
various
programs
and
projects
of
home
wises,
the
housing
trust
habitat
for
humanity,
lifelink,
st
elizabeth
shelter,
all
all
kinds
of
projects
and
and
programs.
So
it's
I
yeah.
I
think
we
touch
pretty
much
everything.
D
Thank
you
very
much
for
such
an
informative
presentation
and
answering
my
questions.
L
I
I'm
intending
to
follow
up
on
commissioner
palpa's
question
that
really
sets
the
stage
for
conversation
and
thank
you
so
much
for
the
information.
What
I'm
after
is
a
larger
context,
not
today,
but
over
the
next
several
months,
we're
seeing
a
little
cooling
in
demand.
If
I'm
supposed
to
believe
the
new
mexican,
which
of
course
I
do
completely
all
the
time.
L
But
there
is
a
finite
amount
of
land
in
this
city
and
we
do
employ
people
who
make
less
than
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
a
lot,
and
it
strikes
me
that
we
need
to
understand.
Are
there
ways
and
employed
in
other
communities,
or
that
are
there
for
us
to
think
about,
in
which
we
can
understand
that
the
demand
driven
by
people
who
can
afford
housing
for
a
place
like
santa
fe
will
always
increase?
L
How
do
we
understand
the
supply
of
land
that
is
available?
The
economics
of
developing
that,
ultimately,
the
availability
of
water?
Ultimately,
because
there
is,
at
the
end
of
the
day,
a
time
when
the
city
is
largely
full,
unless
we
invent
new
ways
to
think
about
housing
that
preserves
partly
what
we
think
is
special
about
santa
fe.
I.
F
L
That's
trying
to
create
that
context
of
need,
or,
as
I
wrote
down,
availability
over
the
next
15
or
25
years
as
opposed
to
affordability,
because
we
can
build
a
lot
of
affordable
housing,
but
it
won't
be
enough
to
be
available
to
meet
the
need,
given
the
external
market
demand
that
will
that
people
can
afford.
Other
people
can't
afford
so
just
context
for
me
to
have
you
put
on
your
think
about
it.
Yeah.
M
Commissioner
smith,
I
really
appreciate
that
comment.
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
we
haven't
quite
figured
out
yet
is
how
to
use
all
of
our
underdeveloped
land.
Now
we
have
these
corridors
here
that
have
just
acres
of
parking
lots,
big
box
buildings.
You
know
we
are
not
taking
advantage,
we're
not
using
a
lot
of
those
resources
very
efficiently,
and
so
you
know,
I
think,
that's
in
the
next
several
years,
we're
going
to
have
to
figure
that
piece
out
and
do
a
much
better
job
of
it.
M
A
And
moving
to
matter
g
we'll
take
up
case
number
20,
21,
4,
3,
7,
9,
20,
21,
4,
3,
8,
1.,.
Q
Q
Q
So
the
the
parcel
in
question
is
located
here:
it's
zoned
hz,
but
the
bulk
majority
of
the
hospital
zone,
c1
zoning
and
the
parcel
in
question
we'll
call
track
d
from
now
on
is
also
in
the
south
central
highway
corridor
overlay
district,
which
is
part
of
the
reason
why
we're
requesting
one
variance
tonight.
Q
So
the
four
cases
are
5250
5205
for
the
master
plan
amendment.
This
would
allow
for
the
new
cancer
center
to
be
on
the
overall
master
plan
for
the
hospital.
526
is
development
plan
approval
for
the
parcel,
which
is
0.7.4
acres
within
the
47-acre
campus
and
there's
two
variances
requested.
5208
is
a
height
variance
to
exceed
the
south
central
highway,
protect
quarter
overlay
district
height
restriction
from
25
feet
to
what
the
applicants
have
recently
updated
to
32
feet
and
then
the
final
request
is
a
slope
variance
which
is
to
disturb
30
slopes.
Q
So
our
staff
recommend
recommendations
are
as
follows:
the
approval
of
the
master
plan
amendment.
We
recommend
the
approval
of
the
development
plan,
amendment
subject
to
conditions
and
technical
corrections
outline
this
report.
We
also
recommend
approval
of
the
height
variance,
but
we
do
recommend
denial
of
the
slope,
variance
and
I'll
get
into
the
details
of
these
stipulations
here
in
a
sec.
Q
Q
More
detail
on
the
project
and
explain
our
stipulations,
because
we
do
have
a
complicated
case
tonight.
Q
This
is
the
proposed
site
plan
and
obviously
the
applicants
will
be
going
into
detail
about
their
project,
but
as
far
as
the
city
is
concerned,
the
main
issue-
one
of
the
main
issues-
is
access
to
the
water
tank
here
on
the
north
side
of
the
of
the
of
the
property
and
then
access
to
these
utility
easements
within
the
aurora
itself,
including
another
utility
access
point.
Here
we
have
worked
out
what
we
believe
is
satisfactory
conditions
of
approval
to
address
those
access,
questions
and
you'll
see.
I
think
here
on
my
next
slide.
Q
Yes,
that
we,
the
water
division
and
the
wastewater
division-
has
worked
with
the
applicants
to
the
point
where
they
feel
comfortable
of
this
development
plan.
Moving
forward,
subject
to
these
conditions,
approval
saying
that
those
access
access
easements
will
be
maintained
and
improved
as
necessary.
I'll
just
go
back
briefly.
Currently
there
is
an
access
instrument
that
goes
through
this
site
right
through
the
middle
that
was
created
to
build
this
tank.
Q
Originally,
that
includes
an
access,
easement
agreement,
but
this
this
condition
of
approval
would
amend
that
access
season
agreement
or
come
up
with
a
new
one
to
maintain
that
access
and
improve
it
subject
to
the
design
of
their
project.
So
I
wanted
to
get
that
on
your
on
the
record
there,
because
that
is
important
for
the
city
departments.
Q
So
and
then
we
go
through
the
variances
briefly,
we
do
recommend
approval
of
the
height
variants,
as,
as
I
previously
indicated,
we
believe
that
the
design
of
the
building
is
intrinsic
to
its
intended
use
and
therefore
it
merits
approval
of
exceeding
the
25
foot,
high
variance
or
height
restriction.
Excuse
me,
which
is
put
on
by
the
south
highway
protection
quarter
overlay
district.
Q
It's
important
to
note
that
the
adjacent
hospital
is
actually
allowed
to
go
up
to
65
feet
if
I'm
not
mistaken
in
the
c1
district,
but
because
this
is
subject
to
the
overlay,
it
is
would
be
limited
to
25
feet.
Their
original
request
was
for
36
feet
and
a
half,
I
believe,
but
they've
updated
the
request
of
32
feet,
and
this
section
here
represents
what
that
would
look
like
in
context
with
the
with
the
neighboring
facilities.
Q
Q
Approval
of
development
plan
or
the
overall
design
of
the
development
for
sure,
so
we
have
decided
well.
The
city
engineer
recommended
denial
of
the
slow
variance
which
is
requested
to
disturb
30
slopes,
which
I
can
show
you
here
from
the
applicant's
materials
the
30
slopes
are
shown
in
blue
and
orange
respectively.
The
blue
is
the
natural
slopes.
Q
Q
It
is
a
natural
flow
and
the
same
engineer,
deed
by
gesner,
believes
that
is
worthy
of
protection,
so
we
recommended
denial
of
the
30
slopes
because
of
the
factor
that
they,
among
other
things,
the
applicant,
has
sufficient
parking,
which
is
the
main
issue
at
hand
in
their
main
campus,
to
reallocate
that
parking
from
track
d
to
their
main
campus
briefly.
Q
This
is
a
photo
of
the
arroyo
as
it
is
today,
there's
a
number
of
criteria
in
the
variance
criterion
section
that
we
believe
that
it
does
not
meet,
but
the
one
that
I'd
like
to
point
out
to
you,
which
I
believe
is
the
strongest
case,
is
the
fact
that
their
parking
requests
can
be
met
through
their
current
parking
in
zone
a
so
zone.
A
is
the
main
hospital
campus,
which
is
currently
over
parked
by
175
spaces,
as
per
their
stated
parking
account.
Q
Q
This
could
make
feasible
by
the
proposed
pedestrian
bridge
which
they'll
be
talking
about
and
as
well
as
the
existing
shuttle
service,
which
already
is
used
to
shuttle
patients
throughout
the
hospital
campus.
So
that's
the
end
of
my
presentation.
I
wanted
to
bring
those
thanks
to
your
attention,
but
I
will
stand
for
questions
and
the
applicants
are
here
to
present.
We
also
have
the
city
engineer
available
for
questions
regarding
the
slope.
Variance
so
we'll
take
those
questions
when
you
need.
A
I
think
at
this
point
it
makes
sense
for
the
commission
to
ask
any
questions
that
are
clarifying
questions,
not
the
comments
or
anything
just
clarifying
questions,
and
I
I'm
going
to
start.
I
have
one
so
the
the
condition
that
there
needs
to
be
an
access
agreement.
That
is
not
a
condition
currently
in
the
written
report.
Is
that
correct.
Q
No
in
the
in
the
written
commission.
Sorry
excuse
me,
sir
woman
cloud
in
the
report.
There
is
a
condition
to
maintain
access
to
that
to
that
hospital
tank.
We
have
left
it
fairly
open-ended
so
that
the
water
department
and
the
applicants
can
come
to
the
agreement
they
need
to
come
to.
So
there
is
an
existing
easement
agreement.
That's
in
the
application
materials,
however,
that
agreement
would
need
to
be
modified
or
updated.
So.
Q
A
Q
The
the
condition
as
it
stands
covers
that
issue
thanks.
A
A
Yes,
commissioner,
lucero.
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
Just
quick
question.
You
reference
the
slope.
The
slopes
on
the
map,
you
said
blue,
indicate
natural
slopes
with
the
orange
I'm
just
curious.
What
that
refers
to.
Q
The
orange
was
a
man-made
slope,
so
there's
been
a
number
of
development
activities
on
the
site,
including
the
previously
created
access
easement
for
the
tank,
which
has
an
embarkment
on
either
side
as
well
as
a
culvert,
underneath
it
where
the
arroyo
goes
through.
Q
Q
Sorry,
if
that's
speak,
it's
we
have
a
required
parking
as
per
our
zoning
code
for
every
use
and
when
they
exceed
that
requirement,
we
call
it
over
parked,
so
they
have
165
more
parking
spaces
than
would
be
required
at
minimum.
As
far
as
far
as
designing
code
goes.
G
Q
Q
Yes,
man,
I'm
sure,
and
commissioner
mirando
again,
this
one
might
be
one
for
dee
who,
I
believe
is
on
the
line.
Who
could
talk
about
it,
but
my
understanding
is:
there
was
a
disagreement
about
how
they
were
calculating
the
full
amount
of
slope
disturbance
and
the
city
engineer
found
that
the
the
amount
that
the
applicants
were
claiming
was
not
the
full
amount
that
that
would
be
disturbed.
But
again,
I'm
sorry.
If
I
can't
tell
you
the
exact
reason
why
that
is
he
available?
Q
S
S
They
were
saying
that
less
than
that
total
on
the
blue
areas
was
going
to
be
disturbing,
I'm
assuming
that
they
must
have
somehow
calculated
that
amount
for
just
the
roadway
and
the
parking
spaces
itself.
You
can
see
that
some
of
the
blue
areas
go
kind
of
into
some
landscaped
areas
and
I'm
assuming
that
they
took
out
that
amount,
although
that
would
have
to
be
disturbed
anyway.
So
I
don't
know
why
they
didn't
total
all
of
those
blue
areas,
and
that
was
a
question
for
the
developer.
T
T
Q
Yes,
sir
sherwood
mclaughlin,
commissioner
henosa
paul,
my
understanding
is,
if
that
slow
variance
was
denied.
We
could
do
a
number
of
things
where
you
could
do
a
number
of
things.
Q
Q
We
could
also
do
something
called
a
preliminary
development
plan,
approval
which
would
require
the
applicants
to
return
to
the
commission
with
a
fully
completed
development
plan
with
a
new
design
that
would
fulfill
that.
That
would
not
need
the
variance
and
you
could
also
go
that
route.
As
far
as
I
know,.
L
Variants,
you
said
there
were
special
circumstances.
Can
we
know
a
little
more?
Can
you
lift
the
shroud
on
the
special
circumstances.
L
Q
Commissioner
smith,
I'm
sure
the
applicants
will
speak
more
to
this,
but
their
their
reasoning
behind.
That
is
because
of
the
use
of
the
building,
which
is
a
treatment
facility
for
cancer
patients.
They
did
not
want
to
have
any
subterranean
facilities,
so
they
couldn't
build
downwards.
In
addition,
the
special
equipment
used
in
the
radiation
treatments
would
require
additional
insulation.
B
U
U
So
with
that,
I
would
it's
my
really
my
honor
to
introduce
the
ceo
chris
benson
julian
montoya,.
V
2716
ventoso
87505,
so
it's
so
nice
to
meet
you
all.
I've
been
with
krista
st
vincent
now
for
about
eight
and
a
half
years.
I'm
a
native
new
mexican
raised
my
family
here
and
I
like
to
tell
people
that
you
know.
I
think
many
of
us
can
say
this.
If
you've
had.
V
Here
they
don't
often
stick
around
because
they
look
for
opportunities
elsewhere
before
they
come
back.
So
for
me,
my
two
kids
are
out
of
state
and
I
like
to
call
the
hospital.
My
third
kid.
It's
the
only
one
that
hasn't
left
the
state.
So
it's
getting
all
of
my
attention
at
christian,
st
vincent
we've
been
on
this
really
wonderful
journey
to
improve
not
only
the
patient
experience
but
what
it
means
to
provide
quality
care
in
santa
fe
and
northern
new
mexico.
V
We
have
2
300
individuals
to
come
to
work
every
day
to
do
their
very
best
in
caring
for
our
community
of
those
2
300
employees
about
200
of
them
are
physicians
and
advanced
practice
clinicians
who
help
provide
that
care.
You
know
on
this
journey
that
we've
had
I
like
to
call
it
our
journey
to
always
the
time
that
I've
been
with
the
organization.
V
It's
about
doing
those
things
always
that
result,
in
always
events
at
the
hospital
of
quality
of
care,
and
so,
as
you
probably
know,
as
part
of
that
journey,
we've
been
able
to
achieve
some
really
substantial
improvements
in
our
reputation.
So,
for
example,
our
work
with
the
mayo
clinic
care
network
has
allowed
us
to
bring
their
expertise
to
this
community
and
deliver
care
here.
We're
now
leapfrog
a
hospital,
so
we've
earned
an
a
grade
for
the
quality
of
care
we
provide
here.
V
But
the
thing
that
I
think
I'm
most
proud
of
is
our
best
place
to
work.
Designation,
we've
earned
that
now
five
years
in
a
row
and
that
when
we
achieved
that
first
standard
back
five
years
ago,
I
knew
that
we
were
in
a
different
place
as
an
organization,
because
it
became
very
personal,
the
care
that
we
provide
at
krista
st
vincent.
We
employ
right
now
many
generations.
V
You
can
walk
through
the
walls
of
the
hospital
and
meet
several
people
that
are
related,
but
you
also
will
find
in
this
community
that
we've
been
taking
taking
care
of
generations
of
santa
fe,
so
we
do
call
it
a
personal
business.
That's
personal
me,
it's
personal
to
you,
it's
personal
to
the
patients
that
we
care
for,
because
of
that
personal
nature
of
the
work,
our
commitment
to
quality
and
our
commitment
to
patient
experience.
V
We
want
to
make
sure
that
santa
fe
and
northern
new
mexico
has
the
quality
of
care
and
services
they
need
here.
So
they
don't
have
to
leave
the
community
to
get
that
care.
We
currently
serve
as
the
only
trauma
center
for
north
central
new
mexico.
We
also
have
the
only
cancer
center
in
north,
central
new
mexico
and
northern
new
mexico.
V
The
the
the
activity
that
you
see
in
front
of
you
today,
the
variances
that
we're
asking
you
for
will
allow
us
to
go
from
a
facility.
That's
roughly
about
36
000
square
feet
to
approximately
80
000
square
feet.
It'll
allow
us
to
broaden
the
type
of
services
that
are
made
available
to
people
that
are
going
through
cancer
prevention
as
well
as
cancer
treatment.
But,
more
importantly
to
me,
it
means
that
we'll
have
a
facility
large
enough
to
accommodate
the
families
and
the
friends
that
are
with
them
on
that
cancer
journey.
V
By
moving
into
that
new
building.
On
the
main
campus,
we'll
be
able
to
take
advantage
of
of
the
assets
of
the
main
campus
of
the
main
hospital,
and
that
includes
the
surgeons
that
are
available
to
provide
on-site
care
to
them
and
consult,
but
also
the
ambassador
services
that
can
help
families
and
patients
navigate
the
facility.
V
So
for
us
it's
this
really
wonderful
opportunity.
We
bring
everything
together
in
one
place,
make
it
easier
on
those
families,
make
it
easier
on
the
patients
and
provide
wonderful
care
in
one
location
for
them.
In
addition
to
the
the
services
we're
going
to
be
able
to
bring
in
additional
state
of
the
art
equipment
to
ensure
that
they're
getting
the
very
best
care
in
santa
fe
and
northern
new
mexico
again,
so
they
don't
have
to
leave
this
community
to
get
that
care.
V
So
for
me,
and
the
2300
people,
electricity,
vincent-
we're-
really
excited
about
what
this
means
for
our
community.
You
know
there's
a
growing
incidence
of
cancer
need
not
just
in
the
country
in
the
world,
but
certainly
here
we're
seeing
about
a
three
to
four
percent
growth
in
the
need
for
treatment
and
just
to
give
you
an
a
sense
of
the
numbers
in
our
emergency
department.
V
We
see
about
forty
five
thousand
to
fifty
thousand
people
a
year,
people
on
a
cancer
journey
we're
seeing
about
thirty
five
thousand
to
forty
five
thousand
encounters
at
our
cancer
center.
Currently
so
the
growth
we're
expecting
about
8
000
a
year,
so
this
larger
facility
doesn't
just
mean
caring
for
those
individuals
on
a
cancer
journey.
It
means
being
on
that
journey
with
them
and
their
families.
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So
I'm
very
excited
that
you're
hearing
how
wonderful
this
opportunity
is,
and
we
have
a
full
team
of
people
who
are
prepared
to
talk
about
it
and
as
jennifer
shared
dr
t
will
be
available
to
share
with
you
what
she
sees
as
the
vision
for
this
as
our
vice
president
of
cancer
services.
So
thank
you
again
for
allowing
us
to
be
here
today.
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All
right,
so
I'm
just
going
to
introduce
our
team,
just
as
I
touched
on
previously.
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I
am
jennifer
jenkins,
with
jenkins
gavin,
also
joined
by
lisa
gavioli
with
jenkins
gavin,
and
you
just
met
our
our
esteemable,
ceo
from
christa,
st
vincent
architecture,
services
provided
by
gbbn
and
hartman
majewski
design
group
in
albuquerque
and
civil
engineering
provided
by
hartman
majewski
and
cushing
terrell
traffic
engineering
provided
locally
by
santa
fe
engineering
and
mike
gomez.
Who
is
here
to
answer
any
questions
you
may
have
and
of
course
you,
our
city
staff
person,
is
daniel,
oberlot
alvarado.
J
U
Been
really
great
to
work
with
through
this
process,
so
just
getting
oriented
with
respect
to
the
site
the
property
is,
is
identified
whoops.
I
did
not
mean
to
do
that
as
tract
d.
So
tract
d
is
a
seven
acre
parcel
that
is
located
directly
east
of
the
main
campus.
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Sorry,
I
don't
know
why
it's
doing
that
so
so
this
is
st
michael's
drive,
and
this
is
the
old
pecos
trial,
st
michael's
intersection
here
and
then
we
have
hospital
drive
and
st
michael's
drive
here
and
then
a
little
off
the
page
to
the
west
is
saint
francis
boulevard.
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So
the
property
is
zone.
Hospital,
zoning,
which
was
a
zoning
category
established
for
parcels
that
were
sort
of
in
the
vicinity
of
the
hospital,
with
the
intent
to
permit
ancillary
medical
facilities.
That
really
would
be
supportive
functions
to
the
hospital
function
itself
and,
as
daniel
stated,
the
property
is
within
the
south
central
highway
corridor
overlay,
which
is
a
corridor
protection
overlay
that
does
come
with
kind
of
its
own
set
of
of
design
standards.
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U
So
the
effort
that
went
into
selecting
this
particular
site
was
a
concerted
effort.
Chris
I'm
involved
I'm
engaged
in
a
month-long
process
looking
at
three
different
sites
that
they
owned
here
in
santa
fe
and
there,
and
there
was
an
exhaustive
analysis
of
each
one,
and
so
there
was
a
lot
of
intention
around
why
this
site
is
optimal.
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One
of
the
key
components
of
this,
as
lillian
pointed
out,
is
the
proximity
to
the
existing
hospital
and
the
opportunity
to
coordinate
care
with
the
service
providers
in
the
hospital,
as
well
as
the
service
providers
within
the
cancer
center
and
ease
of
access
everybody's,
very
familiar
with
where
the
hospital
is
so
ease
of
access
to
the
facility
itself,
availability
of
infrastructure,
developability
of
the
site,
all
those
components
went
into
a
very
you
know:
deliberate
decision
around
selecting
this
site
so
zooming
in
a
little
bit.
This
is
the
this.
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Is
the
proposed
site
plan
with
that
utilizes,
the
existing
curb
cut
on
st
michael's
drive
and
you
can
see
the
the
hospital
campus
just
to
the
west.
This
facility
here
is
what
is
called
frost
pavilion,
and
this
is
the
new
private
patient
wing
that
was
constructed
about
five
years
ago,
maybe
a
little
more,
and
so
that
is
the
newest,
significant
addition
to
the
hospital.
So
the
hospital
now
offers
100
private
patient
rooms
as
a
result
of
that
facility.
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So
this
is
the
existing
master
plan,
and
so
what
I've
highlighted
here
in
blue
is
track
d,
and
this
master
plan
identifies
just
a
potential
10
000
square
foot,
storage,
building
on
track
d.
Obviously
we're
not
proposing
a
10
000
square
foot
storage
building.
So
that
is
the
necessity
for
the
master
plan
amendment
so.
G
U
Pretty
straight
forward,
we've
we've
amended
the
master
plan,
not
really
impacting
any
other
elements
of
the
master
plan,
as
it
currently
is
entitled
and
reflecting
the
proposed
site
plan,
as
well
as
the
pedestrian
walkway.
That
will
connect
this
facility
to
the
frost
pavilion,
so
I'm
zooming
in
on
the
site.
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So,
as
I
mentioned,
there
is
an
existing
curb
cut
here
on
st
michael's
and
as
daniel
mentioned,
you
can
see
the
existing
driveway
kind
of
hiding
here
within
the
aerial
that
goes
back
and
accesses
the
city's
water
tank,
which
is
adjacent
to
the
property
to
the
north.
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And
then
we
have
a
continuous
parking
area
here
and
then
our
two-story
building
is
proposed
here,
and
this
is
a
patient
drop-off
area
here
and
so
the
front
entry
is
on
the
east
side
of
the
building
to
our
west
is
the
arroyo
de
los
amigos
which,
in
this
shaded
area
you
can
see,
is
a
designated
fema.
Floodplain
whoops
gotta
be
careful
with
this
little
thing.
U
It's
very
touchy
and
and
then
you
can
see
the
proposed
pedestrian
walkway
that
will
traverse
the
arroyo
and
connect
to
the
cross
pavilion,
allowing
access
and
ease
of
access
for
staff
to
go
back
and
forth
or
to
transport
patients
from
the
cancer
center
for
additional
ancillary
treatment
in
the
hospital
access
for
visitors
who
may
park
at
the
main
campus
and
and
so
that
really
provides
a
really
important
piece
of
connectivity
between
between
the
two
facilities.
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And
also
we
are,
we
have
a
three
a
little
301
spaces
is
our
parking
requirement
for
the
facility.
We
have
achieved
237
spaces
on
site
with
64
spaces
in
that
over
parked
area
that
daniel
mentioned
on
the
main
campus
that
is
being
identified
for
staff
parking.
So
it
is
really
critical
which
we're
going
to
touch
on
here
momentarily
to
ensure
that
we
are
able
to
accommodate
as
much
parking
as
possible.
This
is
an
outpatient
facility,
so
people
are
coming
and
going
patients
with
their
families
all
day
long
in
order
to
access
their
care.
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So
this
is
a
graphic
that
just
shows
the
variety
of
uses
that
this
facility
will
incorporate
and
why
it's
so
important
for
ensuring
the
highest
quality
care
in
in
our
community,
as
well
as
in
northern
new
mexico.
So
the
graphic
this
is
the
ground
floor,
and
then
you
can
see
that
the
selection
of
services
that
are
perched
above
on
the
second
floor.
U
U
Here
is
the
building
with
the
front
entry
and
the
patient
drop-off,
and
then
you
can
see
the
pedestrian
walkway
connecting
to
frost
pavilion
here
and
then
you
can
see
the
balance
of
the
hospital
structures
in
in
the
distance
and
then,
as
you
get
a
little
closer
as
you're
approaching
and
turning
off
of
st
michael's
drive.
This
is
this
is
the
view
of
the
facility.
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It
really
fits
in
really
quite
well
with
its
surroundings
relative
to
the
hospital
to
the
west
and
the
medical
existing
medical
office
buildings
to
the
east,
and
then
this
is
the
approach
on
the
front
entry
of
the
of
the
property.
One
of
the
really
special
features
is
this
sort
of
outdoor
deck
area.
That
really
has
quite
lovely
views,
so
it's
really
an
opportunity
for
patients
to
enjoy
and
get
some
fresh
air
as
well
as
staff
and
to
enjoy.
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So
that
is
a
total
of
eight
intersections
that
were
that
were
analyzed
for
the
purposes
of
the
study,
and
so,
as
you
may
be
aware,
traffic
studies
are
based
upon
how
do
intersections
perform
and
it's
a
grading
system.
So
it
goes
from
a
to
f,
and
so
a
as
you
can
imagine
is
good
f
is
not
so
good.
F
is
considered
a
failing
intersection
and
how
we
decide
if
it's
an
a
b,
c
or
d
is
based
upon
how
much
delay
does
the
driver
experience
at
those
intersections?
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This
is
what
we
end
up
with
our
level
of
service
for
all
of
the
intersections.
So
we
have
excellent
excellent
capacity
in
this
corridor
and
everything
is
functioning
really
really
well,
and
so,
with
respect
to
our
access
on
st
michaels,
we
are
going
to
be
constructing
a
new
right
turn
lane
if
you're
westbound
on
st
michaels
and
then
we're
also
constructing
a
new
left
turn
lane
for
eastbound
traffic
because
of
potential
driveway
conflicts
with
users
on
the
south
side
of
st
michaels.
There
is
not
a
left
out
opportunity
here,
but
it
is.
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It's
still
really
excellent
access
in
terms
of
the
right
in
the
ride
out
and
the
left
and
turning
movements.
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There's
no
reason
in
the
world.
Anybody
coming
to
the
hospital
should
be
on
lupita
street,
not
at
all.
So
what
we
are
proposing
is
this
is
the
intersection
of
galasteo
and
hospital
drive.
So
if
you're
heading
southbound
on
galisteo
heading
towards
st
michaels,
you
have
that
opportunity
to
turn
onto
hospital
drive
and
then
immediately,
as
you
turn,
there's
lupita
right
there.
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So
we're
proposing
a
directional
signage
saying,
keep
going
straight
right
here
in
terms
of
accessing
the
hospital
and
then
another
sign
here
that
says:
don't
go
straight,
keep
going,
and
then
we
also
we're
going
to
add
a
no
hospital
access
sign
at
the
entrance
of
lupita.
We
feel
like
this
will.
Hopefully
our
plan
is
that
this
is
going
to
help
ameliorate
that
concern
and
we're
also
adding
a
no
hospital
access
sign
at
the
intersection
of
lupita
and
old
pecos
trail.
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U
The
neighbors
also
have
expressed
concern
regarding
some
of
the
noise
that
is
generated
by
the
hospital,
primarily
when,
obviously
the
hospital
needs
an
emergency
generator
and
because,
if
the
lights
go
out,
the
hospital
can't
go
out,
and
so
there
are
federal
requirements
around
the
generator
needing
to
be
tested
pretty
regularly
to
ensure
the
safety
of
the
hospital.
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And
so
in
response
to
some
of
the
concerns
that
have
been
expressed.
The
the
hospital
engaged
a
noise
study
and
what
was
and
really
looking
at,
the
perimeter
of
the
campus,
where
we're
closest
to
our
residential
neighbors
and
what
was
discovered
is
that
we're
completely
within
the
noise
limits,
as
established
by
the
city
code.
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So
the
city
has
a
limit
of
50
decibels
and
our
actual
noise
levels
never
exceeded
46,
and
this
is
not
a
continual
noise
level.
This
is
for
a
short
period
of
time,
while
a
generator
is
being
tested
and
and
when
we
did
our
our
neighborhood
meeting
on
this
project,
there
was
concern
that
this
facility
obviously
needs
a.
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And
so
then
we're
adding
you
know
just
insult
to
injury
without
another
generator.
That
also
needs
to
be
tested.
Well,
the
good
news
is,
we
have
worked
really
hard
in
determining
the
existing
generator
capacity,
and
it
is
has
been
determined
by
our
engineers
that
we
can
connect
the
cancer
center
to
the
existing
generators.
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So
with
respect
to
the
height
variance,
so
the
south
central
highway
corridor
has
a
25
foot
to
the
roof.
It's
interesting
because
the
corridor's
height
limits
aren't
based
upon
the
parapet
they're
based
upon
the
roof.
So
that's
what
we're
working
with
and
the
key
driver
for
our
request
and
as
daniel
mentioned,
our
original
request
was
for
33
and
a
half
feet,
but
we
throughout
this
entire
process.
With
the
development
plan
review,
we
have
been
actively
working
on
designing
this
building
and
we
really
put
it
to
our
architects.
Like
is
there
any
way
we
can?
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We
can
bring
the
building
down.
Is
there
any
way
we
can?
We
can
work
with
less
hype
and,
and
they
really
took
that
seriously
and
and
we've
been
able
to
get
to
a
32
foot
height
actually
which
we're
really
pleased
about,
because
the
design
just
got
further
along
in
the
process.
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So
we
were
able
to
to
establish
that
so
we're
actually
kind
of
officially
reducing
our
request
tonight
to
32
feet
from
33
33.6
and
under
a
couple
of
key
drivers
for
this
request
for
this
type
of
facility,
the
main
driver
is
the
the
linac
vault,
which
is
the
radiation
equipment,
and
this
requires
six
feet
of
concrete
shielding
six
feet
for
obvious
reasons
in
order
to
protect
anything,
that's
going
on
around
this
building
from
radiation
and,
secondly,
medical
facilities
have
different
mechanical
needs
relative
to
heating
ventilation,
air
conditioning
humidity
control,
all
those
elements
they
have
very
unique
needs,
and
so
typically
you
know
you
just
look
at
an
office
building
yeah.
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You
can
get
an
office
building
in
25
feet
all
day
long.
If
you
have
an
office
building
coming
here,
asking
for
a
variance,
they
just
want
it
because
they
want
it,
but
medical
facilities
have
very
unique
requirements,
and
so
the
mechanical
space
that
kind
of
that
plenum
space
that
you
need
above
the
ceiling
to
run
all
your
duct
work.
It's
just
bigger
it
just
is
in
order
to
accommodate
the
facility.
So
that
is
what
we've
highlighted
here
in
yellow
we
have
the
actual
vault
and
then
in
blue.
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You
can
see
those
mechanical
those
mechanical
spaces
there.
So
we
really
do
appreciate
staff
support
of
this
variant
and
we
have
worked
really
hard
to
bring
it
down
as
much
as
we
can,
but
also
height
is
important
to
look
at
in
respect
to
its
context
with
its
surroundings
right,
so
we
and
I
believe,
daniel-
showed
these
images
as
well.
This
is
a
section
starting
at
st
michael's
drive,
and
this
is
this
is
a
north
south
section,
so
you
can
see
it
here
on
the
little
key
that
we
pulled
a
section
right
through
there.
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So
from
st
michael's
drive-
and
you
see
the
facility-
that
is,
the
frost
pavilion
off
in
the
distance-
that
on
the
other
side
of
the
arroyo
and
then
all
the
way
to
the
north.
This
is
our
closest
residence,
and
so
we
are
seven
feet
below
frost
we're
five
and
a
half
feet
below
our
closest
residence.
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And
then
you
can
see
that
depicted
here.
So
this
is
an
east
west
view,
so
we've
pulled
a
section
just
running
east
west
across
the
site.
So
you
can
see
across
pavilion
here
you
can
see
our
walkway
and
then
this
is
the
medical
office
building
just
to
the
east
of
us
that
were
essentially
the
same
height
as
as
that
as
that
building.
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So
we
are
requesting
a
very
modest
variance
to
disturb
some
naturally
occurring
30
slopes
within
this
drainage
area
here,
in
order
to
maximize
the
amount
of
parking
that
we
can
provide
adjacent
to
this
facility
for
the
ease
of
access
of
our
patients
and
their
families.
U
That's
the
only
reason
we're
asking
for
this
variance,
and
so,
as
you
can
see,
this
is
the
driveway
that
the
city
of
santa
fe
constructed
when
christus
st
vincent
granted
them
an
easement.
So
they
could
reconstruct
this
water
storage
tank
and
there
is
an
existing
easement
agreement
with
the
city
of
santa
fe
in
place.
U
That
easement
agreement
allows
us
to
relocate
the
easement
as
long
as
we're
continuing
to
provide
them
access
and
so
which
we
are
our
parking
lot
and
our
driveway
design.
I
don't
know
why
that
keeps
doing.
That
is
that
we
designed
it
not
only
to
accommodate
a
fire
truck
which
is
pretty
much
the
largest
vehicle
on
the
road,
but
to
accommodate
their
access
to
their
facility,
and
the
easement
agreement
allows
us
allows
us
to
do
that.
U
But
it's
interesting
because,
as
you
can
see,
the
driveway
the
city
constructed
actually
crosses
the
flood
plain
and
to
our
knowledge,
there
was
no
permit
from
the
army
corps
of
engineers
to
impact
that
floodplain
and
as
daniel
mentioned
there
is
a
colbert
now
impacting
this,
with
with
man-made
30
slopes
along
the
embankment
on
either
side
of
that
driveway,
and
this
little
remnant
of
this
drainage
used
to
go
all
the
way.
U
City
of
santa
fe
allowed
all
of
the
upstream
users
to
pipe
it
and
pave
over
it,
and
then
the
city
when
they
were
constructing
their
tank,
constructed
their
own
driveway,
impacting
the
floodplain,
thereby
isolating
this
little
remnant.
Ditch
it's
piped
on
one
end:
it's
piped
right
there
and
that's
what's
left,
so
it
feels
a
little
disingenuous
to
talk
about
how
precious
this
drainage
is
because
the
city
has
by
their
actions,
have
demonstrated
it's
really
not
that
precious,
and
you
know
what
we
agree
with
them.
C
U
So
the
green
is
this
occurrence
here
is
973
feet.
This
one
here
is
117..
We
don't
need
a
variance
for
that.
The
code
permits
that
so
these
areas
in
blue
is
the
subject
of
the
variance
request
in
order
to
ensure
the
largest
parking
supply.
We
can
accommodate
adjacent
to
this
facility
and,
interestingly,
we
are
going
to
be
engaging
in
a
map-
amendment
application
with
fema,
because
when
the
city
constructed
this
driveway,
they
modified
the
floodplain.
U
U
U
U
U
We
have
golf
carts
on
campus,
so
if
somebody
has
to
park
remotely
and
they
need
assistance,
a
golf
cart
will
bring
them
to
the
entry.
The
golf
carts
can't
drive
on
st
michael's
drive,
there's
no
direct
vehicular
access
between
these
two
facilities
off
the
road.
So
the
shuttle
that
that
is
a
non-starter.
That's
not
it's
not
an
option.
U
And
with
that,
I'm
going
to
close
my
comments
and
I'm
going
to
ask
carl
to
come
up
and
finish
up
his
comments
and
then
we'll
hear
from
dr
t,
so
I
really
appreciate
your
attention.
Thank
you
very
much.
X
A
X
And
madam
chairman
approach,
I
just
have
some
things
I'm
going
to
talk
about
as
we
go
along.
X
What
what
we're
asking
for,
and
what
we're
asking,
a
variance
for
and
and
I've
handed
out
to
you
a
portion
of
the
code
on
the
first
page,
which
is
the
purposes
of
the
trained
management
regulations.
The
second
page
is
the
definition
of
a
drainage
way.
The
third
page
is
a
quote
that
states
a
general
principle
of
law
that
is
established
well
established
throughout
the
country,
including
new
mexico,
and
the
last
one
is
very
interestingly.
X
The
easement
agreement
that
madam
chair
asked
about
earlier,
and
I've
highlighted
a
couple
of
portions
in
there.
I'd
like
to
go
through
that
in
the
staff
report.
X
The
mr
alvarado,
who
did
a
great
job
on
his
staff
report,
refers
to
the
city's
authority
related
to
the
preservation
of
drainage
waves
and
what
they
refer
to
is
the
purposes
section
of
the
terrain
management
regulations.
And
what
I'd
like
to
demonstrate
to
you
is
regulations.
X
Terrain
management
regulations
specifically
are
not
found
in
the
purposes
section
they
are
found
in
the
regulations
themselves
and
the
regulations
themselves
do
not
say
you
shall
preserve
this
particular
ditch.
They
say
that
if
you
are
going
to
disturb
30
grades,
you
need
a
variance,
that's
what
we
ask
for
a
variance
for
you
will
know.
X
We
all
have
to
have
a
a
pre
pre
application
meeting
with
staff.
Tell
them
what
we're
doing
so
that
they
can
alert
us
as
to
well.
This
is
quite
this
is
what
we
think
you
need
to
do.
What
they
did
not
say
was.
You
need
a
variance
to
preserve
to
disturb
the
entire
ditch.
That's
left
the
only
thing
they
said
and
they're
correct.
The
only
variance
you
need
is
for
the
30
slopes.
Now.
What
are
we
talking
about?
X
I
provide
them
to
you
because
they're
a
laundry
list
of
purposes
behind
the
ordinance,
so
the
most
broad
and
general
one
that
you
all
are
aware
of
is
the
public
health
and
safety
and
welfare
right,
that's
a
very
broad
standard,
and
then
it
goes
through
13
very
of
more
specifics
purposes.
Behind
the
ordinance
and
staff
is
relying
on
the
one
that
is
number
nine
that
says,
respect
protect,
maintain
restore
natural
drainage
ways.
That's
a
purpose:
how
do
how
does
the
ordinance
protect,
maintain
natural
drainage
ways?
It
has.
X
Regulations,
that's
a
purpose
behind
the
ordinance.
How
does
it
achieve
that
purpose?
One?
It
has
floodplain
regulations,
you
cannot
build
in
a
floodplain
except
under
very
specific
circumstances,
so
flood
plain
regulations
prohibit
development
except
allowed
by
fema
and
the
city
engineer.
So
there's
very
specific.
The
other
is
30
grades.
You
cannot
disturb
30
grades
except
in
limited
circumstances,
and
then
you
have
to
ask
for
a
variance.
If
you
don't
get
that
variance,
you
can't
do
it.
X
Excuse
me
cubic
cubic
feet
per
second
of
water
going
through
in
a
hundred
year
event.
Then
you
have
to
stay
out
of
that
drainage
way
and
you
have
to
stay
back
from
that
drainage
way.
This
is
not
one
of
those
drainage.
This
ditch
has,
I
think,
47
cubic
feet
per
second
in
a
hundred
year
event.
It
is
not
one
of
the
regula.
It
is
not
one
of
the
drainage
ways
that
is
regulated
by
the
code,
so
the
code
has
a
purpose
preserved
drainage
waste.
X
X
A
drainage
way
is
defined
in
the
code
as
a
natural
or
artificial
land,
surface
or
depression
with
or
without
perceptively
defined,
better
banks
to
which
to
which
or
through
which
surface
runoff
gravitates
collects
impounds
or
channels
or
disposition.
That's
any
any
rivulet
where
water
goes
into.
X
X
The
code
does
not
require
it.
The
code
only
requires
that
the
30
grades
that
we're
trying
to
disturb
or
we'd
like
to
disturb,
seek
a
variance.
The
code
does
not
allow
staff
to
impose
a
condition
or
require
us
to
preserve
this,
ditch
because
it
does
not
meet
the
specific
criteria
of
regulation,
and
I
provided
you
on
the
next
page.
X
Just
a
a
quote
from
a
case
that,
and-
and
I
know
that
at
least
two
of
you
are
lawyers-
and
this
is
a
very
common
well-established
principle
of
law-
is
that
when
you
read
an
ordinance
or
a
statute,
you
don't
go
to
the
preamble
preamble
where
the
purposes
are
to
find
out
what
the
regulation
is.
You
go
to
the
regulation
itself,
that's
the
substance
and
what
the
case
says
is
preparatory
language
such
as
contained
in
a
particular
section
of
the
protection
log
generally
is
regarded
as
being
operative.
Part
of
the
statutory
enactment.
X
X
Interestingly,
I'd
like
to
turn
your
attention
to
the
final
thing
and
that's
the
easement
agreement
between
the
city
and
christopher
st
vincent
as
you've.
Seen
on
all
of
these
maps
and
everything.
The
city
has
a
four
million
gallon
tank
behind
this
property
and
they
rebuilt
that
tank
years
ago.
I
think
in
2017
between
2015
and
2017
and
the
way
they
got
to
that
to
do
rebuild.
That
tank
was
a
temporary
easement
through
this
track
that
saint
vincent's
gave
them
and
then
that
temporary
easement
got
put
into
a
permanent.
C
X
Access
easement,
that
is
in
front
of
you
when
they
built
that
roadway,
they
plowed
right
through
this
property.
They
use
the
property
as
a
staging
area,
and
you
can
see
what's
out
there
from
what
you've
seen
they
did
not
pull
a
permit.
They
did
not
consider
this
ditch
remnant,
important,
they
degraded
this
ditch
remnant,
and
what
is
there
today
is
the
result
of
the
city's
use
of
the
property
for
its
access
when
the
city
finalized
the
tank
and
the
equipment.
X
The
parties
entered
into
this
agreement
and,
interestingly,
in
paragraph
three,
I've
highlighted
for
you
that
there
is
a
provision
that
says
saint
vincent's
can
move
this
easement
so
that
it
can
utilize
the
property-
and
that
was
an
essential
part
of
this
agreement
and
you'll
note
that
the
current
driveway
runs
right
through
the
middle
of
the
proposed
building.
So
clearly
it
has
to
be
moved
in
order
to
utilize
this
property
for
any
purpose.
You'd
have
to
move
that
easement.
Now.
What
does
the
city
want?
X
The
city
said
they
would
cooperate
with
us
in
moving
this
easement
and
moving
this
driveway.
And
what
we're
running
into
is
they're
saying
wait
a
minute.
We
don't
want
you
to
move
this
right
away.
We
want
you
to
leave
it
there,
because
we
think
you
should
preserve
the
remnant
of
this
ditch.
That's
what
they're
saying
that
is
not
cooperative
or
our
purpose
is.
It
is
uncooperative,
and
we
believe
that
this
agreement
requires
that
the
city
at
least
consider
cooperating
with
us
in
this
regard,
I'm
not
saying
that
it
binds
you
to
grant
the
easement.
X
I'm
not
saying
that
at
all.
I'm
saying
that,
with
respect
to
the
relocation
of
the
easement
city,
staff
has
taken
the
position
that
we
don't
have
to
relocate
these.
I
point
out
on
page
two
of
this
agreement.
I've
highlighted
the
term.
This
easement
expires
in
five
years,
unless
it's
renewed
by
both
parties,
and
we
would
like
to
renew
this
easement
in
five
years,
make
it
permanent
and
move
it
around
the
building
so
that
the
city
can
actually
maintain
its
tank.
These
are
important
considerations
for
the
hospital
they
were
when
they
granted
this
easement.
X
Slopes,
but
I
am
saying
there
is
no
authority
to
preserve
the
remnants
of
this
ditch
that
are
not
30
and
that
the
proposed
condition
is
not
allowable
under
the
code.
You
have
the
full
discretion
to
grant
the
variance
or
not
grant
the
variance
and
I'll
turn
just
to.
One
final
thing
is
again:
this
is
point:
zero,
zero,
five
percent
of
the
overall
site.
What
is
the
important
drainage
on
this
property?
It's
the
arroyo
amigos,
that's
the
important
drainage,
it's
being
preserved,
restored
and
protected.
X
F
K
Thank
you
thank
you
to
my
colleagues
for
going
through
all
of
the
obviously
technical
and
legal
aspects
of
what
this
parking
variance
means,
and
I'm
here
to
kind
of
talk
about
the
more
human
aspect
of
this.
So
when
I
heard
there
was
an
issue
with
the
parking
variants,
I
did
want
to
come
and
kind
of
advocate
for
my
patients
about
what
parking
means,
because
it
really
an
integrated
cancer
center,
actually
starts
at
the
parking
lot.
K
K
Cancer
care
these
days
is
extremely
complicated
and
involves
so
many
moving
parts,
including
medical
oncologists
as
myself.
Surgical,
physicians,
radiation,
oncologists,
palliative
care,
social
work,
nutritionists,
and
the
goal
is
to
provide
this
in
one
place,
to
make
it
much
more
easier
for
our
patients
to
access
all
of
these
supportive
care
and
life
saving
measures.
K
K
Many
of
my
patients,
obviously
I'm
trying
to
cure
from
their
cancer.
Many
get
well,
but
unfortunately,
many
do
not
and
that
they
know
that
time
is
not
on
their
side
and
one
of
the
main
concerns
I
have
about
lack
of
parking
is
time.
When
my
patients
come
in,
they
are
obviously
often
can
be
sick.
There
are
significant
side
effects
to
chemotherapy
that
can
impact
their
ability
to
walk
their
the
amount
that
they
can
tolerate
their
resilience
to
do
a
lot
in
a
day,
sometimes
walking
across
a
parking
lot
is
a
huge
barrier.
K
So
I
I
really
want
to
talk
about
the
time
component
too,
every
few
minutes
that
it
takes
something
for
my
patients
to
do
that
takes
a
lot
of
their
energy,
even
just
being
awake
sitting
in
a
wheelchair.
So
if
they
have
to
park
in
another
area,
it's
not
very
feasible
for
them,
especially
if
they're
in
a
wheelchair,
to
have
to
go
through
the
process
of
pavilion
across
the
parkway
and
into
the
cancer
center,
and
if
they're
have
any
debility
difficulty
walking,
that's
going
to
be
a
huge
challenge
for
them.
K
Even
if
they're
allowed
to
be
dropped
off
at
the
entrance,
you
saw
the
entrance
way
where
there's
a
parking
drop
off
and
their
loved
ones
have
to
go
park
in
a
different
area.
They're
going
to
have
to
wait
for
them
to
return.
Many
of
them
again
can't
walk
on
their
own.
They
need
help
or
they're
waiting
to
be
with
their
loved
ones,
to
come
to
their
appointment
and
again,
five
minutes
here,
10
minutes
there
15
minutes
of
waiting
really
takes
a
lot
out
energy
and
the
ability
for
my
patients
to
really
tolerate
being
there.
K
For
that
long,
they're
often
there
already
hours
already
to
see
myself
get
lab
work
and
do
their
treatments
so
as
much
as
we
can
accommodate
them
and
to
support
them
in
their
journey.
I
hope
we
can
consider
those
needs.
I
don't
really
consider
for
my
patients
parking
a
convenience,
but
I
really
think
it's
a
necessity
for
them.
K
I
think
we
all
feel
very
strongly
that
all
of
our
staff
and
many
visitors
can
park
at
the
main
parking
lot
in
the
hospital,
but
we
really
need
to
ensure
that
space
for
our
patients,
like
I
said
we
have
more
than
generally
80
patients
a
day
just
getting
treatment
alone,
and
if
we
take
away
60
of
those
parking
spaces,
that's
already
the
majority
of
them
that
they're
going
to
have
difficulty
finding
parking.
So.
F
V
U
A
C
What
are
some
other
or
other
devices
or
apparatuses
that
might
contribute
to
the
noise
emitted
by
the
facility
other
than
I
guess?
A
generator
is
not
needed,
but
other
other.
U
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Lucero
chair
cloud,
so
you
know
their
standard.
You
know
mechanical
equipment
that
would
be
true
of
any
building,
so
there
would
be
mechanical
equipment
on
the
roof
that
does
generate.
You
know
modest
amount
of
noise,
but
every
office
building
in
town
generates
kind
of
that
kind
of
noise,
so
it
the
is
really.
This
is
the
key
driver.
There.
C
U
And
actually,
you
know
we
are
looking
at
the
opportunity.
There
might
be
a
combination.
There
might
be
some
ground
we're
still
working
through
some
of
those
design
details,
but
we
have
some
of
the
space
that
was
allocated
for
the
generator
that
we
now
don't
need
well
and
potentially
is
creating
the
opportunity
for
some
ground
mounted
equipment
as
well,
but
there
likely
will
be
some
equipment
on
the
roof
as
well.
C
Okay,
another
question
is
what
measures
are
being
taken
to
address
toxins
that
may
be
emitted
from
the
facility,
and
this
was
brought
up
by
a
letter
from
the
from
the
neighborhood
nearby,
the
lupita
neighborhood.
U
So
I'm
I'm
not
aware
of
toxins
that
would
be
emitted
by
the
facility.
Maybe
one
of
somebody
from
christus
could
speak
to
that.
I
I
am
not
aware
that
there
is
any
toxins
that
are
of
a
concern
generated
from
this
facility,
so
I
can't
unfortunately
I
can't
speak
to
that.
I.
C
Think
that
was
brought
up
as
a
concern
just
toxins
in
general,
but
then
also
with
the
water
tank
nearby.
Would
that
be
impacted
in
some
way,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
bring
that
up.
No.
U
I
do
not
see
any
impacts
with
respect
to
to
the
water
tank.
The
the
radiation
facility
is
is
encased
in
concrete
for
those
exact
reasons,
but
the
the
balance
of
the
project
is
it's
a
medical
clinic,
so
it
like
they're
in
that
entire
neighborhood
is
full
of
medical
clinics.
So
it
is
it's
in
that
same
vein,
so
I
wouldn't
think
there
would.
The
the
main
thing
that's
really
unique
about
this
facility
is:
is
the
linac
the
linux
radiation
facility.
U
C
Have
one
other
question:
what
are
the?
What
are
some
specific
infringements
that
already
exist,
perhaps
upstream
in
this
smaller
drainage
area?
That's
in
question
with
the
slope
variance.
I
know
that
I
see
on
a
map
that
there's
things.
U
The
entire
drainage-
and
I
can
I
can
plug
myself
back
in
here
if
we
want
to
look
at
the
imagery,
the
entire
drainage
upstream
of
this
site.
It's
all
been
piped,
it's
gone
typed,
it's
paved.
U
It
goes
into
the
the
large
arroyo,
the
arroyo
de
los
amigos,
which
is
on
the
west
side,
so
it
flows
directly
into
that
into
that
arroyo.
So
the
primary
so
with
respect
to
our
proposal
is
to
continue
the
pipe
so
where
it
it
enters
the
property
and
then
there,
where
there's
the
the
culvert
that's
under
the
existing
driveway.
U
That
would
be
continued,
and
so
all
of
the
storm
water
would
flow
into
the
arroyo
in
the
same
path
it
does
now
and,
however,
we
are
adding
some
improvements
in
the
arroyo
at
the
outlet
of
the
pipe,
because
the
way
it
was
constructed
by
the
city,
it's
just
a
free
flow
and
it
is
creating
some
erosion.
So
we
have
some
check
dams.
Some
structure
there
that
to
slow
the
velocity
of
the
water
down
in
order
to
to
mitigate
any
erosive
activity
of
the
water
itself,
but
the
direction
of
the
flow
remains
unchanged
generally.
A
Do
you
have
any
photographs
of
the
piping
that
you
were
talking
about,
that
it
flows
in
and
flows
out
and
then
flows
into
another
one.
U
There
it
is
okay,
so
this
right
here
on
the
right
hand,
side
of
the
page.
That
is
where
the
existing
pipe
enters
the
site,
and
then
we
would
propose
a
continuation
of
that
and
then
it
would
go
underneath
the
driveway.
And
then
these
are
the
the
structures
that
we're
proposing
in
the
in.
As
you
approach
the
arroyo
in
order
to
mitigate
velocity
and
reduce
erosion,.
A
U
Image
for
you
so
this
image
here,
commissioner,
you
know
and
chair
cloud
commissioners.
This
shows.
U
U
U
If
that
ditches
remain
undisturbed,
then
that
orange
area
there,
all
that
parking
goes
away
so
and
we
likely
would
have
to
fence
it
because
of
as
the
grade
changes
that
the
code
requires
for
safety
purposes
you
would
have
so
we
would
have
this
odd
sort
of
hole
in
the
parking
lot
with
a
fence
around
it,
and
we
would
have
a
parking
area
on
the
south
side,
and
then
we
would
have
the
parking
area
on
the
north
side
and
then
we
would
have
to
allocate
60
spaces
on
the
main
campus,
and
this
would
be
in
an
effort
to
save
1500
square
feet
of
flow.
U
We
it's
it's
challenging,
but
there's
a
possibility
that
if
we
are
able
to
just
if
it
just
comes
down
to
the
30
slopes-
and
let
me
go
back
to
this
drawing
here
so
if,
if
it's
just
the
the
slopes
here
in
blue,
that
is
what
we
have
to
not
touch,
and
then
we
can
maintain
the
parking
that
is
adjacent
to
that.
U
That
is
upstream
of
this
area,
as
was
pointed
out
by
mr
summer,
then
that
would
have
less
of
that
would
have
less
of
an
impact,
and
then
we
end
up
with
even
a
smaller
hole
in
the
parking
lot
with
a
four
foot
fence
around
it.
So
I
guess
it
comes
down
to
what
are
we
really
achieving
at
the
end
of
the
day?
What
are
we
achieving
by
this.
U
Q
Thank
you,
chairwoman,
clown
and
commissioner
so
fall.
So
I
do
have
some
comments
and
I'd
like
to
go
back
actually
to
carl's
presentation,
because
I
think
there
is
some
confusion
about
what
our
authority
is
in
terms
of
what
can
be
required
from
the
applicants
and
they're
correct
that
this
is
the
variance
is
for
the
30
slopes,
but
I
believe
that
carl's
incorrect
in
that
or
sorry.
Mr
summer,
you
know
yeah
a
little
more
official.
Q
I
believe
that
he's
incorrect
there's
a
section
in
right
below
this
section,
the
terrain
management
code
that
he's
cited
that
says
the
city
engineer,
is
allowed
to
require
setbacks
for
for
arroyos
less
than
100
cfs
if
they
deem
it
required
so
in.
Under
that
understanding,
there
is
actually
the
authority
for
the
city
engineer
to
require
that.
Q
Additionally,
in
the
development
plan
plan
criteria
you,
the
commission
can
also
require
condition
of
approval
of
any
real
site
design
aspects,
including
parking
lot
design
or
building
configuration
that
you
see
fit
so
that
it
is
in
support
of
the
general
plan.
So
that's
what
I
would
say
is
about
our
authority
to
to
require
that
setback.
Q
I
agree
that
just
protecting
the
30
slopes
and
having
kind
of
random
holes
in
the
ground
is
not
our
goal
and
if,
if
we
just
did
that,
I
don't
believe
it
would
achieve
the
city
engineer's
intention
of
protecting
this
arroyo.
I
would
also
comment
that
the
I
don't
believe
it's
it
is
confirmed
whether
or
not
the
city
pulled
the
permits
for
the
the
easement.
Q
That's
something
we
haven't
been
able
to
confirm.
The
the
fact
remains
that,
as
our
language,
director
jason
clark
likes
to
say,
we
don't
want
to
get
punished
by
the
sins
of
our
past
and
we
may
have
approved
permits
for
building
on
this
arroyo
upstream,
and
we
may
or
may
not
have
correctly
permitted
this
easement,
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
we
have
to
continue
that
mistake
of
building
in
this
arroyo
and
with
this
development.
So
that
is,
that
is
the
city's
position.
Q
E
I
apologize,
commissioner,
if
I
may
I'd
like
to
just
add
one
thing.
I
I
believe
the
city
engineer
was
also
prepared
to
respond
to
the
applicant's
arguments,
and
I'd
also
like
to
just
note
just
as
a
for
the
record
that
you
know
that
it
is
problematic
to
allow
intensification
of
a
of
a
use
on
a
property
when
it
has
an
existing
violation.
D
A
I
don't
want
to
as
to
debate
at
this
point
in
time,
but
rather
just
clarify
so
that
when
the
public
speaks,
we
have
all
the
information
that
we
have
to
sort
of
analyze.
What
they're
saying
so,
if
we
can
keep
it
a
little
brief
that
would
be
good
and-
and
I
don't
think
we
need
like
counter
arguments-
we
can
do
that
after
the
public
speaks.
A
A
T
U
U
S
And
commissioners,
I
wanted
to
say
that
daniel
mr
alvarado
just
stated
the
section
of
the
code
that
I
was
using.
I
was
not
just
using
the
intent
of
the
code,
but
I
was
using
section
14-8.2,
d4
or
c2
that
does
state
that
I
can
require
setbacks
from
an
arroyo
with
a
flow
of
less
than
100
cfs.
S
I
walked
this
arroyo,
although
they,
although
they're,
saying
that
this
little
portion
of
this
arroyo
is
sits
in
between
two
disturbances.
It
is
quite
a
distance
and
it
is
a
beautiful
arroyo
in
there.
I
walked
it
and
saw
deer
tracks
in
that
area.
I
saw
deer
in
the
other
major
arroyo,
but
deer
tracks
and
wildlife
in
this
section
of
the
arroyo,
which
is
quite
beautiful,
and
I
do
believe
that,
because
of
the
flows
and
the
culvert
required
under
the
city's
driveway
that
they
built,
it
shows
that
it
isn't
a
royal.
S
If
you
see
the
one
picture
that
daniel
alvarado
has
in
the
the
staff
report,
that's
just
one
little
area
of
the
arroyo,
but
it
is
beautiful.
It's
it's
undisturbed
the
area
where
the
pipe
is
coming
out
of
the
development
to
the
east.
It
is
not
significantly
degraded
soaps
in
there.
You
can
see
that
there's
no
30
slopes
over
there
and
that
pipe
has
been
there
for
quite
some
time.
So
it's
not
causing
further
erosion
by
and
meeting
a
requirement
of
a
pipelining
that
whole
arroyo
the
whole
way.
S
What
what
I
wanted
to
say
about
preserving
mr
royal
and
I
think
it
I
do
think
it
is
important.
T
S
A
chair
and
commissioner,
I
believe
that
there
is
there
are
alternatives.
I
believe
that
the
the
applicant
could
construct
a
parking
garage
if
they
wanted
more
parking
nearby
and
and
couldn't
figure
out
how
to
put
it
in
without
disturbing
that
arroyo.
So
I
do
believe
there
are
other
options.
Q
Q
Sorry,
I
think
it's
there,
it
goes
and
I'm
sure
I
believe
this
is
the
image
that
engineer
was
referring
to
the
historic
aerial
photo
from
1951,
which
depicts
the
existing
the
arroyo
going
through.
What
is
now
developed
these
areas,
the
medical
area-
and
this
is
the
site
in
question-.
Q
The
madame
chair
that
can
just
reformat
it's
about
250
feet,
I'm
not
sure
off
top
my
head
personally,
but
you
can
see
the
buildings
behind.
There
is
the
offices
of
the
kaya
medicos
center
and
this
photo
is
roughly
taken
from
the
easement
access
road
that
is
currently
existing.
H
In
your
report,
you
mentioned
not
not
understanding
part
of
the
civil
engineers
calculations
and
and
needing
more
information.
Can
you
can
you
expound
on
that
and
what
specifically
it
was
regarding?
Was
it
the
drain?
Was
it
the
flow
on
the
whole
site
or
yeah.
F
H
It
was
the
the
the
calculation
of
the
the
flow
on
the
whole
site.
S
So
I
actually
did,
I
actually
do
have
some
some
small
issues
with
their
drainage
calculations,
but
I
believe
that
that's
something
that
we
can
work
out.
It's
not
really
a
big
issue,
but
yes
for
the
slope
calculations.
I
I
believe
they
explained
it
that
normally,
when
someone
comes
in
for
if
they,
if
they
are
going
to
disturb
more
than
what's
allowed
in
the
code,
which
is
three
isolated
incidents
of
a
thousand
square
feet,
normally
you
just
what
I've
seen
in
the
past.
S
I
guess
I
don't
know
normally,
because
I've
been
here
for
two
years,
but
what
I've
seen
in
the
past
is
that
you
would
just
ask
for
a
variance
for
every
thing.
You're
disturbing,
when
you
can't
meet
the
variance.
What
they've
done
is
they've
taken
out
what
they
think
is
the
variance
what
they
don't
need,
a
variance
to
with
some
of
the
30
slope
that
was
allowed
and
that's
why
there's
a
difference
in
what
they're
asking?
I
don't
think,
that's
a
big
deal
they're
just
saying
that
they
don't
need
a
variance
for
that
small
portion.
H
There
was
three
sections
that
they
highlighted
in
blue,
was
it
yeah
and
then
and
then
the
two
that
were
right
in
line
with
the
road.
D
D
Okay
in
the
proposed
development
plan
on
the
site
plan,
can
you
tell
us
how
far
the
proposed
line
app
screened
as
it
is,
is
from
the
homes
on
the
peta.
U
D
That's
fine,
so
this
is
the
general
question.
There
was
some
conversation
and
some
comments
from
the
public
regarding
helicopter
traffic
and
I
recall
reading
thinking
I
read
in
the
the
master
plan
from
the
hospital
that
helicopter
traffic
is
limited
to
essential
whatever
that
means
essential
trips
for
the
master
plan.
This
may
be
for
yourself,
ms
jenkins,
or
for
our
staff
has
has
do
we
have
compliance
with
that
at
this
point,.
U
Yes,
commissioner,
commissioners,
to
your
clout-
and
we
are
in
compliance
and
this
facility
will
have
no
impact
on
helicopter
traffic
at
all.
This
is
not
an
emergency
facility.
There
is
no
transport.
This
is
an
outpatient
facility
for
cancer
treatment,
so
there
will
be
no
impact
or
increase
in
helicopter
traffic.
U
The
there
have
been
efforts
around
modifying
the
helicopter
route
in
terms
of
working
to
minimize
impact
on
the
residential
properties
that
are
to
our
north
and
to
our
northeast,
and
so
that
has
had
a
positive
impact.
So,
yes,
we
believe
that
we
are
in
compliance
with
the
conditions
of
the
master
plan.
D
Another
question
regarding
the
entire
master
plan
from
a
hospital:
if
and
when
will
the
hospital
consider
a
parking
structure,
you
have
a
lot
of
valuable
land,
that's
occupied
by
vehicles
without
the
conditions
imposed,
as
the
doctor
so
eloquently
explained
about
the
needs
of
specific
needs
of
cancer
patients.
D
U
So,
commissioner,
pava
and
chair
cloud
and
commissioners,
so
there
are
not
any
current
plans
for
that,
but
as
the
hospital's
needs
change
and
as
potential
new
facilities
are
added
to
the
campus.
That's
always,
I
guess
a
possibility,
but
there's
nothing
on
the
table
right
now
or
any
immediate
plans
for
any
sort
of
parking
structure
on
the
campus.
D
Thank
you
for
the
clarification.
I
just
think
it's
important
for
the
commission
to
look
at
these
big
picture
issues
in
context,
because
this
is
a
unique
facility,
as
you
have
argued,
and
has
its
unique
needs,
but
in
in
in
context
to
the
entire
master
plan
for
this
amazing
facility,
the
hospital
facility
just
trying
to
understand
what
the
bigger
plan,
the
long-term
plans,
the
master
plan,
would
be.
Thank
you.
A
And
we
also
have
limited
each
person's
comment
to
two
minutes,
so
please,
it's
important
to
be
concise,
clear
and
not
repetitive.
B
P
B
In
north
okay,
thank
you,
okay,
I'm
going
to
swear
everyone
in.
Please
raise
your
right
hands
if
you're
going
to
speak.
Excuse
me
ma'am.
If
you're
going
to
speak,
please
raise
your
right
hand,
I'm
going
to
swear
everybody
in
at
the
same
time.
Thank
you.
Do
you
swear
under
the
penalty
of
perjury
that
the
testimonies
you're
about
to
give
are
the
truth,
the
whole
truth
and
nothing,
but
the
truth.
B
N
Good
evening,
commission,
my
name
is
anna
dara
and
I
live
at
1611
don
gaspar,
I'm
co-chair
of
the
santa
fe
film
and
digital
media
commission.
So
I
have
to
say
I
really
appreciate
your
time
and
your
patience
and
sticking
it
out
for
the
public
to
have
an
opinion
here
can.
Can
I
ask
and
clarify
timing
wise
so
how
much
time
we
each
have
two
minutes,
and
if
I
have
two
people
seating
can
I
have
six
minutes?
A
You
can
but
the
two
people
that
have
you
need
to
identify
the
two
people
that
have
given
you
their
two
minutes.
These.
N
Two
here
judy
ribble
r-I-b-b-l-e
and
ebb
eb,
lotimer
l-o-t-t-I-m-e-r.
N
T
F
N
F
N
So
we
took
this
picture
today
in
our
yard
and
it's
actually
the
neighbors
yard,
the
ones
closer
to
where
everything's
happening,
but
just
wanted
to
show
you
the
ditch,
isn't
just
a
ditch
and
what
you're
preserving
really
matters.
So
thank
you.
There's
a
lot
to
be
said
here
and
we
have
a
lot
of
people
with
great
information
that
want
to
share.
I
do
want
to
say
the
first
two
cases.
N
That
are
up
today
about
you
know:
do
we
do
we
agree
to
shift
the
the
main
plan?
The
hospital
plan
that's
been
in
place.
I
really
appreciate
commissioner
pava's
question
about.
You
know,
historically
how
the
plan
has
been
upheld,
and
so
I
think
it's
important
to
look
at
that.
That's
a
much
larger
conversation
and
not
something
I
want
to
address
right
now,
but
I
appreciate
your
attention
to
that
and
others
may
address
that.
N
So
I
really
do
need
to
be
able
to
show
you,
which
I
hope
I
can
do
here.
N
Let
me
try
this
one
more
time.
Where
are
houses.
N
And
yeah
it's
not
coming
up
at
all
now,
so
we
are
directly.
A
Why
don't
we
wait
until
they
see
if
they
can
fix
that
and
then
we'll?
Let
you
start
over,
and
I
could
just
ask
siri
to
give
me
set
an
alarm
for
six
minutes
like
I
learned
to
do.
F
T
F
N
A
F
N
N
N
So
this
view
is
what
we
look
out
at
this.
Is
a
wall
sized
window
in
our
bedroom.
It's
the
best
part
of
our
house.
Is
you
walk
into
the
room
and
and
there's
the
mountains?
N
N
You
know
I've
walked
behind
the
hospital
every
single
day,
my
for
25
years,
so
I
care
a
lot
about
the
hospital.
I
care
a
lot
about
the
hospital
as
a
neighbor.
I
care
a
lot
about
our
neighborhood,
the
lupita
neighbors,
the
lupita
street
is
actually
one
street
down,
so
I'm
on
dangest
bar,
which
comes
down
in
dead
ends
into
a
motto,
and
that
puts
me
in
direct
line
of
vision
with
this
building
that
they
are
creating.
N
N
F
F
N
Our
bedroom,
it's
just
you
know,
looking
at
it.
This
is
what
happened
when
they
built
the
water
tower,
so
they
didn't
get
permits
they.
We
do
nothing
about
this
thing
happening
and
it
was
like
ten
months
of
the
city
doing
construction.
It
was
ten
months
of
beep
beep
at
seven
a.m,
and
it
was
winter
and
summer
and
it
blocked
the
views.
So
I
am
this
little
property
right
here.
Can.
P
N
N
N
What
I
would
like
to
request
is
that
they
dig
into
the
earth,
which
I
know
is
really
expensive,
and
I
know
it's
harder
to
do
to
dig
down,
and
I
know
they
really
don't
want
to
even
consider
it,
but
it's
an
option.
It
has
to
be
an
option,
so
it
is
customary
in
the
world
of
hospitals
and
line
acts
to
be
dug
down
into
the
earth
it.
It
contains
the
radiation,
many
of
the
east
coast,
hospitals
have
underground.
You
go
down
a
ramp
to
go
into
the
lineup
areas.
N
N
You
know
the
polls
with
the
flags
to
show
us
exactly
how
what
the
heights
would
be,
but
we
haven't
seen
those
so
I'm
just
looking
at
as
as
I
just
showed
you,
you
know
the
construction
filmed
and
and
what
I'm
looking
forward
to,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
they're
not
going
to
be
blocking
our
views
so
that
they
can
create
a
great
view
for
the
patients
who
are
sitting
and
getting
treatments
which
you
know.
I
agree.
They
need
great
views,
but
not
at
the
expense
of
our
views
and
our
property
values.
N
So
I
also
heard
something
about
the
parking
lot
having
something
to
do
with
employee
parking
as
well,
which
you
know,
I
don't
think
we
need
extra
parking
for
that.
There
there's
actually
plenty
of
space.
I'm.
F
A
F
A
Z
Commissioners,
I'm
going
to
address
traffic
issues
in
the
time
that
I
have.
Z
Z
The
other
point
that
I
would
like
to
raise
is
the
addition
of
a
new
condition
related
to
traffic,
a
new
condition
to
the
approval
of
the
master
plan
amendment,
and
that
is
that
the
intersection
of
the
driveway
leading
to
the
cancer
center's
parking
lot
and
st
michael's
drive
be
not
only
a
one-way
turn,
so
that
people
going
east
toward
pecos
trail
and
st
michaels
are
able
to
turn
left,
but
that
it
be
a
an
intersection
with
a
traffic
light
that
gives
those
people
an
arrow.
A
green
arrow.
Z
If
you
remove
the
obstruction
to
the
left
turn,
which
is
the
island
in
the
middle
of
st
michaels
you're,
ignoring
the
problem
that
caused
the
island
to
be
put
there
in
the
first
place,
which
is
that
it
is
not
a
good
idea
to
turn
left
into
the
teeth
of
oncoming
traffic,
going
45
or
50
miles
an
hour.
Downhill
on
st
michaels
toward
the
west,
so
in
order
that
to
be
for
that
to
be
effective
and
to
not
endanger
the
cancer
patients
of
the
facility,
they
should
be
allowed
to
turn
left
in
safety.
Z
Z
How
big
of
a
problem
is
the
additional
traffic
in
the
neighborhood?
I
think
that
ms
jenkins
says
it
well.
She
says
that
she
feels
that
there
will
be
patients
arriving
and
leaving
all
day
long
and
judging
from
the
resistance
that
the
hospital
is
showing
to
losing
a
portion
of
the
parking
spaces
over
the
arroyo
issue,
the
intention
seems
to
be
that
they
need
301
parking
places
from
which
patients
will
be
continuously
arriving
and
leaving
all
day
long,
and
that
creates
a
traffic
problem.
That
requires
a
clear
condition.
I
Good
evening
my
name
is
bruce
bernstein.
I
live
at
204,
west
san
mateo
and
I'm
here
to
talk
about
some
of
the
human
context
of
the
construction
and
some
of
the
experiences
the
24
7.
People
who
live
with
the
hospital
have
every
single
day,
and
no
one
can
say
here
that
the
hospital
is
not
important
to
us.
Our
children
were
certainly
born
there.
We
have
tried
to
stay
away
from
the
hospital
in
our
lives.
While
we
celebrate
the
cancer
center.
I
We
hope
we
never
find
ourselves
inside
the
cancer
center
and
it's
very
welcome
addition
to
our
to
our
community.
The
word
disingenuous
has
been
used
here
to
discuss
some
of
the
aspects
of
resistance
to
the
variances,
and
I
want
to
turn
that
word
back
a
little
bit
on
the
hospital
and
its
treatment
of
its
neighbors
and
therefore
the
concern
of
a
variance
here,
variance
there,
just
the
sorts
of
things
that
happen.
The
hospital
has
continuously
improved
itself.
I
I
Initiated
the
signage
that
was
the
neighborhood,
it's
just
ingenuous,
to
suggest
that
the
generator
is
what
was
being
measured
in
the
noise
study,
but
the
noise
study
was
improperly
set
up
and
not
calibrated
correctly.
So
it's
really
inten
disingenuous
yet
suggests
that
somehow
it's
important
and
then
the
helicopters,
the
hospital
really
has
said
nothing
about
the
helicopters
it
was
initiated
by
the
neighborhood
and
the
neighborhood
called
all
the
helicopter
companies.
I
I
A
Were
there
three
people,
so
you
have
six
more
minutes
and
I
just
like
to
say
I
think
it's
much
better
if
just
a
few
people
speak
that
can
do
more
substance,
as
opposed
to
two-minute
quick
speaking.
So
I
appreciate
all
of
you
doing
that.
A
I
Up
for
the
evening,
it's
been
a
long
evening
for
everyone
a
long
day
working,
so
the
tailing
fence
is
all
that
separates
the
hospital
on
its
north
boundary.
It
is
unsubstantial
to
say
the
least.
It
is
nothing
like
the
berm
and
the
landscaping
on
the
st
michael's
side
through
that
chain-link
fence.
That's
where
all
the
noise
comes
from
the
continuous
noise,
the
mechanical
equipment
tops
of
the
roofs
mechanical
equipment
is
unprotected.
I
I
F
I
So
I'm
here
to
to
to
suggest
that
the
height
variance
of
eight
feet,
eight
inches
is
not
good
to
accommodate
and
to
say
I'm
against
it,
and
I
think
the
neighborhood
is
against
it
as
well
that
the
eight
foot
eight
you
know
it's
about
30
two
feet
from
25
feet:
that's
about
30
or
25
to
30
height
and
but
that
doesn't
count
the
mechanical
equipment
on
the
roofs
and
again
the
disingenuous
nature
of
the
comments
about
the
equipment
and
so
forth
is
will
this
equipment
be
unprotected
again?
I
Will
it
not
be
buffered
and
so
forth
for
the
whether
to
benefit
all
the
people
around
it?
I
don't
think
the
current,
irresponsible
and
reckless
operation
should
continue
with
a
new
building,
but
I
hope
the
commission
can
hold
the
hospital
to
speak
to
the
fire
in
terms
of
managing
the
project.
Well,
for
the
benefit
of
our
santa
fe
community.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
G
Rick
martinez,
725,
mississippi
road.
I
want
to
start
off
with
a
different
comment
before
I
start
on
what
I
really
want
to
say
about
this
project.
First
off
I
was,
I
came
from
home.
I
came
up
here
real
fast
because
I
just
hooked
up
the
zoom
and
it
was
supposed
to
be
a
hybrid
meeting,
which
I
understand.
It's
not
a
hybrid
meeting
and
I
was
completely
lost
and
just
sat
there
and
there
was
no
way
to
raise
your
head.
G
So
if
this
good
commission
is
going
to
have
these
meetings,
please
say
that
please
go
to
youtube
only
and
not
not
sign
into
to
to
the
to
zoom,
because
they
were
deciding
to
zoom
you're
right
away.
Thinking
I
get
to
speak
so
I
had
to
run
up
here,
so
I
could
speak
my
mind
or
what
on
two
different
projects
that
are
coming
out
in
this
recession.
G
P
Thanks,
commissioner,
chair
clow,
we
we
do
have
a
hybrid
option.
We
are
people
are
in
the
waiting
room
and
during
public
comment
they
will
be
able
to
talk,
but.
P
G
G
P
F
G
G
Okay,
rick
martin
725
missy
road.
One
of
my
big
concerns
is
that
I
see
that
this
walkway,
you
see
a
glass
walkway.
This
is
one
of
the
entrances
into
santa
fe.
I
don't
know
what
the
walkway
do.
I
think
it
should
have
more
architectural
design.
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
see
the
design
of
that
right
now.
It
just
looks
like
a
glass
walkway,
it's
a
long
walkway.
G
You
know,
I
think
it
they
should
have
better
architectural
design
as
to
what
too,
as
you're
visually
driving
through
by
there
right
now.
It
looks
like
just
a
glass
walkway
and-
and
I
think
that
really
just
takes
away
from
the
from
with
the
real
true
the
architecture
of
the
hospital
is,
which
I
think
is
not
too
bad,
but
I
just
don't
see
that
walkway
being
addressed
as
the
way
it
should
be
addressed
as
part
of
santa
fe
and
part
of
the
architectural
design
of
both
buildings.
So
I
think
that
should
need
to
be
assertive.
G
I
also
want
to
say
I
support
the
neighborhoods
and
what
they
say
about
traffic.
I've
been
working
work
with
this
neighborhood
a
couple
years
back
and
and
they
had
the
same
problems
and
they're
still
having
the
same
problem.
So
you
know,
I
just
hope
you
guys
pay
attention
to
what
their
problems
are
and
address
them
before
you
move
forward
on
this.
So
again,
I
thank
you
and
next
time.
Let's
get
this
straight
sorry
about
that,
but
I
had
to
come
and
do
it.
A
Z
AB
A
Okay,
let's
stop
a
minute
and
the
two
people
that
are
providing
you
with
your
two
minutes.
Can
you
identify
yourself.
AA
AB
F
AB
AB
Reasons
of
sunsets
mountain
views
or
vistas
height
requirements
are
very
important.
Four
years
I
sat
in
your
very
chair
and
we
would
have
to
talk
about
heights
for
homeowners
businesses
and
they
were
very
diligent
following
these
rules.
C
G
AB
Turns
its
back
on
the
neighborhood,
the
views
that
it
captures
for
its
balcony
are
actually
views
that
are
taken
from
the
neighborhood.
I
don't.
I
am
not
directly
impacted
by
this,
but
I
am
talking
on
behalf
of
my
neighbors
because
I
work
in
the
construction
industry.
I
understand
some
of
these
things
a
little
better
than
some
of
some
lay
people
do.
AB
So
when
I'm
looking
at
the
plans
of
the
building.
There
are
things
that
aren't
jiving
with
me
and
I
hope,
since
we're
not
going
to
use
all
of
our
time,
that
if
the
applicant
does
have
a
rebuttal
that
maybe
we
could
also
discuss
this
as
well,
but
things
that
aren't
adding
up
to
me
is
this
concrete
bulb
this
radiation
vault
is
17
feet
tall
the
need
to
build
an
office
above
it
does
not
make
sense
to
me
that
is
what's
causing
the
height
that
we
see.
C
F
AB
I
leave
the
podium,
but
I
will
reference
these
very
quickly:
the
presbyterian
family,
medical
center.
It's
two
stories:
it's
26
feet
tall,
the
optical
and
dental.
These
are
all
direct
neighbors
by
the
way
of
where
this
building
will
be
built,
the
optical
professional
center
and
the
dental
professional
center
or
16
feet
high.
AB
The
building-
that's
right,
east
of
the
proposed
building
where
it
will
be,
is
25
feet.
High
here
is
the
site
where
the
building
is
being
that's
proposed
to
be
built,
and
this
is
that
building
that
I'm
referring
to
as
25
feet.
So
all
the
neighbors
have
found
ways
to
design
buildings
stay
within
height
requirements.
F
AB
The
concrete
vault
need
another
story
on
top
of
it,
it's
a
very
specialized
unit.
The
other
thing
is
I've
been
to
medical
facilities
where
they
are
not
they're
not
using.
Y
R
R
AB
F
AB
Impacted
by
this
building
and
the
applicant
has
made
mention
that
I'm
going
to
show
you
my
little
sketch.
It's
probably.
D
D
AB
Anna's
house
she
was,
the
applicant
was
referencing
that
anna
will
be
able
to
look
out
her
window
right
past
this
new
building.
Well,
that's
not
the
case
she
was
referring
to
the
parapet.
That's
the
roof.
Anna
doesn't
live
on
the
roof.
Anna
lives
at
finish,
four
level.
The
average
human
eye
level
is
five
feet.
Five
inches,
not
sixteen
feet.
AB
F
AB
A
foot
here
or
there,
the
views
of
the
balcony
on
the
south
facade
of
the
building,
while
impressive.
I
understand
why
they
would
want
those
views
their
views
taken
from
the
neighborhood
so
having
a
ceiling
deck
of
32
feet
again,
that's
the
ceiling
deck
we're
also
going
to
have
a
parapet,
probably
four
feet,
maybe
six
to
screen
mechanical
equipment,
it's
a
very,
very
tall
building.
AB
So
in
closing
I
would
just
like
to
ask
that
the
variance
for
height
exception
is
denied,
based
on
many
of
the
neighbors,
which
a
lot
of
the
new
construction
have
been
able
to
follow
within
those,
and
I
think
a
lot
of
time
and
thought
and
preparation
we're
putting
to
those
zoning
overlays
as
we
call
it
a
corridor
production
protection
zone.
We
are
protecting
views.
It
is
important.
A
redesign
of
this
building
could
achieve
all
these
things.
AB
AB
And
yeah,
we
just
ask
for
your
your
consideration.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
P
R
Thank
you.
My
name
is
stephen
farber.
I
live
at
2351,
botox
road.
I
have
several.
I
assume
that
I
have
only
a
limited
amount
of
time
to
speak.
I
think
that
that
is
a
violation
of
due
process
of
law,
and
I
appreciate
the
fact
that
janet
clowell
is
attempting
to
be
as
fair
as
she
possibly
can
that
she's
working
within
constraints
set
forth
by
the
land
use
department,
which
violates
the
rights
of
the
residents
of
this
community
to
appear
in
front
of
the
planning
commission
and
express
their
concerns.
R
There
is
no
reason
why
everybody
who
wants
to
speak
should
not
be
allowed
to
speak,
and
there
should
ought
to
be
people
who
are
designated.
Who
can
provide
substantive
comments
like
some
of
the
commenters
have
to
be
able
to
provide
context
for
the
information,
as
rick
martinez
said,
I
tried
getting
on
earlier
actually
on
your
youtube
channel.
That
was
not
working.
R
This
is
not
about
rabble
rousing.
This
is
not
about
trying
to
create
problems.
This
is
about
fundamental
fairness.
How
can
six
commissioners
vote
to
approve
minutes
when
three
of
the
commissioners
weren't
even
present
on
june,
the
second
to
be
able
to
hear
what
was
stated?
How
can
three
commissioners
vote
to
approve
findings
of
facts
which
are
very
specific?
Thank.
P
F
J
J
I
want
to
thank
you
and
support
your
denial
of
the
30
slope
variance.
I
agree
with
the
state
engineer
that
I
mean
why
do
more
degradation
if
something
was
not
done
properly
before
now?
Is
the
time
to
repair
really
appreciate
that
as
someone
who
walks
in
that
arroyo
regularly
and
I'm
glad
you
find
it
is
beautiful
regarding
the
height
variants,
I
a
couple
of
my
neighbors
have
alluded
to
this,
but
I
want
the
commission
to
understand
that
we're
not
just
talking
roof
to
roof
on
top
of
their
roof.
J
We've
never
heard
any
clear
delineation
of
how
much
higher
it
will
go
after
equipment
and
the
parapet
to
cover
that
equipment
and
in
the
neighborhood
meeting
it
was
even,
I
believe,
said,
between
eight
and
ten
more
feet
just
to
cover
that
so
the
eight
feet
and
change
variance
plus.
That
is
what
our,
what
we
will
see
from
the
neighborhood
and
just
a
final,
more
general
comment
about
the
planning
commission
and
the
what's
being
perceived.
As
the
new
mexicans
said,
buildings
growing
up
like
weeds
now
in
santa
fe.
J
But
I
think
the
community
is
getting
agitated
and
we
deserve
to
know
more
about
what
your
vision
of
the
future
is.
A
No
hands
erased
so
that
completes
we're
closing
the
public
comment,
portion
and
I'll
open
this
up
to
the
commissioners
for
questions.
But
I
told
mr
summers:
he
could
clarify
something.
X
We
just
had
a
couple
of
clarifications,
we'll
be
very
brief.
The
reason
I
didn't
cite
the
section
that
mr
alvarado
and
ms
pineguester
referred
to
is
because
it
has
very
specific
criteria
when
the
city
engineer
may
restrict
on
a
drainage
way
less
than
100
cubic
square
feet.
It's
based
on
soil
and
hydrology,
based
on
information
of
soil
and
hydrology
submitted
to
the
engineering
department,
and
there
is
no
basis
in
this
buying
gessor's
opinion
that
is
based
on
soil
or
hydrology
to
justify
the
setback
or
the
preservation
of
this.
X
What
she
said
was-
and
I'm
not
disagreeing
with
her.
There
are
deer
and
rabbits
and
wildlife
in
this
corridor.
The
code
doesn't
say
you
get
to
preserve
an
arroyo
on
that
basis.
It
could
have
it
doesn't
that's
important,
it's
soil
and
hydrology,
so
it
doesn't
have
any
application,
because
there's
no
information
in
front
of
you
about
soil
and
hydrology
that
justify
this
decision.
In
the
end.
X
I
think
that's
the
only
clarification
I
wanted
to
make
with
respect
to
that
that
that
issue.
Thank
you.
Do
you.
F
D
D
AA
Chair
trial,
commissioner,
I
believe
in
this
case
it
does
not
make
a
difference
in
which
order
they
go
because
they
are
not
dependent
on
one
another.
I
believe
you
could
deny
either
the
variances
and
still
approve
the
development
plan
or
the
master
plan
amendment.
AA
Perhaps
daniel
could
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
on
that,
but
I
don't.
I
don't
think
they
would
impact
the
other
two.
So
I
believe
you
can
do
them
in
any
order.
Q
D
G
D
Madam
chair,
is
it
appropriate
for
me
to
suggest
a
succession
of
motions
at
this
point
or
do
other
commissioners
have.
H
The
the
programming
the
size
of
this
facility-
maybe
I
missed
it,
but
did
that
come
from
a
study
from
the
hospital
and
what
the
demand
was.
Can
you
speak
to
that.
U
Absolutely
commissioner,
chair
clown.
Commissioners:
the
size
of
this
facility
is
100
related
to
the
programmatic
needs
of
this
facility.
So,
as
dr
teague
pointed
out,
this
is
an
opportunity
to
consolidate
cancer
care
in
one
place
adjacent
to
the
regional
medical
center
in
order
to
have
those
ancillary
services
available
as
well.
So
there
is
not
one
wasted
square
inch
of
space
here.
Do
we
need
space
on
top
of
the
linac?
Yes,
we
do.
U
T
Well,
I'm
quite
persuaded
persuasive
find
the
doctor's
discussion
about
the
need
for
parking,
but
I've
yet
to
find
anyone
to
tell
me
how
we're
going
to
get
this
done.
T
Anybody
because
you
know,
I
don't
think
anyone
here
can
deny
that
need,
but
we
also
have
an
arroyo
there,
so
miss
jenkins
anybody's,
been
I
mean,
there's
got
to
be
some
very
smart
people
around
you
that
can
design
a
parking
lot.
That's
going
to
accommodate
the
needs
of
the
patients
without
interfering
with
the
abroad.
U
T
U
Way,
I
do
not
believe
that
is
possible.
No,
I
mean
we
have
been
working
on
this
design
for
a
year
and
a
half
and
and
the
the
priority
here
is
two
things.
U
U
U
The
highway
corridor
requires
35
open
space,
so
there
are
a
lot
of
requirements
that
impact,
how
we
are
able
to
utilize
this
site
and-
and
we
think,
we've
done
an
actual-
a
pretty
stellar
job
of
protecting
the
natural
environment
and
creating
a
facility
that
is
worthy
of
this
effort
in
in
in
terms
of
the
constraints
that
are
there,
because
it's
right
next
door
to
the
hospital
there's
so
much
beauty
in
it
in
terms
of
what
we
can
achieve
here
and
we
can
achieve
it
together.
T
Go
ahead,
thank
you.
What
about
this
suggestion
by
the
community
of
an
additional.
T
U
U
This
intersection
does
not
meet
those
spacing
requirements
relative
to
hospital
drive,
but
primarily
arroyo
chamiso
is
closest,
so
we
don't
meet
that
spacing
requirement
and
almost
more
importantly,
there's
something
called
a
warrant
analysis
that
you
have
to
demonstrate
that
the
signal
is
warranted
not
just
based
on
the
traffic
on
st
michael's
but
based
upon
the
side
street
traffic.
So
we
have
our
driveway
for
the
cancer
center
there's
another
driveway
to
another
facility
across
the
street.
U
That
would
create
a
four-way
intersection,
there's
no
way,
and
we
did
the
analysis
that
the
side
street
traffic
off
those
driveways
is
going
to
meet
signal
warrants.
So
it's
just
strictly
from
a
traffic
engineering
standpoint,
a
signal
there
is
not
feasible,
but
we
believe
we
have
actually
really
for
a
stretch
of
st
michael's.
That
is,
has
a
lot
of
access
on
it.
There's
a
lot
of
driveways
in
there.
We
feel,
like
we've,
been
able
to
achieve
really
excellent
access
with
the
right
end
right
out
and
the
left
in
so
okay.
A
Let
me
ask
you
a
question:
what
about
the
neighbors
request
to
add
additional
signage
on
don
gaspar
and
san
mateo
and
senior
sense
yeah,
absolutely.
U
We'd
be
happy
to
work
with
public
works
and
we
can
update
and
show
that
in
those
intersections
and
we're
happy
to
do
that
if,
but
obviously
they
need
to
give
us
the
you
know
they
need.
The
city
needs
to
bless
that,
but
we're
happy
to
to
incorporate
that.
I
think
that's
a
great
suggestion
and
the
signage
plan,
if
I
misspoke
in
my
apologies,
it
was
absolutely
initiated
by
the
neighborhood
no
question
and
then
they
reached
out
to
the
city
the
city
reached
out
to
us.
U
A
I
have
a
question
for
carl
I'm
looking
at
the
statute
and
it
says
for
auroral
streams
or
water
crosses
that
carry
less
than
100
cubic
feet
per.
Second,
that's
what
we're
talking
about
in
a
one
percent
chance
event,
which
is
a
hundred
year
flood.
The
city
engineer,
may
require
a
setback
based
on
soil
and
hydraulic
information
supplied
by
the
applicant.
So
did
you
I
mean
you
knew
that
there
was
an
issue
with
this
water
course.
A
Well,
you
knew
there
was
a
water
course.
There
did
you
and
I'm
assuming
you
knew
the
flow,
did
you
provide
any
hydraulic
or
setback
or
any
soil
or
you
didn't
provide
in
any
information.
We.
X
Recently,
after
the
application
was
in
the
staff,
reports
were
done,
did
a
calculation
on
how
the
what
the
flow
is.
There's
no
soil
analysis
on
this
on
this
in
the
record
or
in
our
application,
and
the
reason
was
because
it
wasn't
wasn't
a
concern
because
the
code
doesn't
say
you
could
preserve
this.
Based
on
what
we're
talking
about.
Madam.
A
Chair,
maybe
we
could
get
the
city
engineer
to
discuss
her
reliance
on
this
provision
and
and
as
I
see
it,
it
does
relate
to
soil
and
hydraulic
information
right
and
then
then
city
could
require
a
setback
from
there.
If.
X
Madam
chair,
we
have
our
traffic
engineer
here,
who's
mike
gomez,
and
he
can
answer
the
question
sort
of
definitively
for
commissioner
kino
joseph
fault
as
well
as
address
the
u-turn
issue
and
people
driving
around.
If
he
could
do
that.
Okay.
W
W
W
W
W
W
W
Doing
traffic
accounts
out
there
since
2003
and
our
last
one
was
2022
and
over
that
time
period
traffic
has
decreased
on
saint
michael's
a
trial,
and
we
have
the
data
here
to
show
it.
In
2003.
In
the
pm
there
was
800
cars
going
eastbound
in
our
latest.
AA
W
W
W
W
L
S
So
I
did
not
realize
that
there
was
this
side
arroyo
in
the
beginning,
when
I
I
went
to
the
site
and
met
with
their
engineer
about
the
floodplain,
and
I
didn't
walk
over
to
that
side.
So
I
never
requested
information
on
the
flow
in
that
arroyo.
They
did
a
recently
submit
the
flow,
as
I
think,
approximately
47
cfs.
However,
that
flow
is
only
the
flow
coming
from
the
off
site.
S
There
is
additional
flow
that
goes
to
that
side
arroyo
from
the
site
and
they
did
not
do
an
analysis
for
that,
so
that
that
little
arroyo
carries
more
than
47
cfs,
so
my
reliance
on
that
was
originally.
I
just
assumed
that
it
could
possibly
be
100
cfs,
and
I
stated
that
I
wanted
the
25
foot
setback
and
now
that
I
see
that
it's
most
likely
less
than
100
cfs.
S
S
The
most
of
the
banks
on
that
arroyo
are
not
really
steep.
So
the
setback
for
me
is
more
a
condition
of
preserving
a
good
area
of
the
arroyo
for
the
intent
of
the
code,
which
does
state
that
we're
protecting
wildlife
habitat
in
addition
to
a
watercourse,
a
waterway.
A
So
I
take
it
that
you're
saying
you're:
okay
with
a
12-foot
setback.
G
S
Yes,
I
would,
of
course,
prefer
the
25-foot
setback,
because
it
is
a
beautiful
oil
and
but
yeah
from
the
banks
of
the
lawyer,
which
we
would
have
to
establish
where
those
the
banks
of
the
arroyo
are,
and
then
it's
a
12-foot
setback
from
the
banks
of
the
arroyo.
So
it
will
be
wider
than
just
24
feet
because
it
includes
the
arroyo
itself
plus
12
feet.
L
Normal
as
peter
smith,
I
have
a
question
for
I
haven't
been
doing
road
traffic
lights
in
traffic
for
25
years,
so
you
said
it
went
from
800
to
600.
What's
your
what's
the
unit?
Is
it
an
hour
a
minute,
a
second
the
afternoon
the
rush
hour
I
mean.
How
am
I
understand
what
that
means.
W
W
The
am
does
not
necessarily
impact
it
as
much
and
we're
talking
about
using
analogy
to
project
our
traffic
volumes.
Six
cars
in
the
am
would
make
a
right
turn
onto
hospital
drive,
be
westbound
and
the
westbound
and
the
pm
would
be
11
cars.
W
L
I'm
relatively
new
to
this,
so
I
I
don't
know
what's
appropriate.
What's
not.
This
is
a
huge
project.
It's
not
going
to
go
away
in
five
years.
If
there's
a
mistake
made
I've
heard
having
reviewed
the
material
and
no
intending
no
criticism
of
the
staff
at
all
concerns
about
the
height
restrictions,
the
parapets
berms
walls,
the
traffic
signs
seem
to
be.
Oh,
you
know,
okay,
but
to
me
for
us
to,
in
a
two-hour
conversation,
give
a
green
flag
as
opposed
to
waiting
even
two
weeks
and
trying
to
get
some
more
information
about.
L
L
F
L
I
understand
that
the
hospital
doesn't
wanna
put
stuff
on
the
side
of
the
building
or
on
the
land
below
the
building
or
whatever
it
is.
But
again,
oh,
my
friends
are
here
so
just
wait.
A
minute.
They'll
begin
to
testify
to
me
taking
another,
even
two
weeks
to
try
to
get
clarity
on
the
questions
that
have
been
raised
for
a
project
that
is
going
to
be
here
for
a
long
time
and
it's
an
important
project,
I'm
not
against
it
at
all.
L
I'm
saying
this
in
response
to
mr
pablo,
who
knows
a
hell
of
a
lot
more
about
this
than
I
do,
but
I'm
I'm
concerned
about
getting
to
the
bottom
of
what's
opinion
and
what's
hard
fact
and
what's
going
to
be
forever
and
and
I
I
don't
feel
ready
to
even
having
reviewed
all
the
information
to
make
a
decision
tonight.
G
A
Be
but
if
it
was,
I
think,
we'd
need
to
be
extremely
specific
about
what
information
we
need
and
and
want
and
who
we.
I
guess.
We
get
staff
to
work
with
the
applicant
and
if
you
want
you
can
make
a
motion
and
see
if
someone
seconds
it
and
then
we
can
get
more
specific
in
terms
of
what
the
reason
for
the
postponement,
the
really
specific
information
that
we
need
and
let
me.
L
Editorially
say,
as
a
recovering
politician
of
little
note:
I've
lost
votes
before
so
I'm
not
I'm
not
worried
about
that.
Specifically,
I'm
interested
in
the
issues
having
to
do
with
the
height
restrictions.
L
Where,
in
fact,
the
equipment,
that
is,
we
go
on
top
of
the
building,
what
that
adds
and
how
much?
How
essential
it
is
that
it
go
there
as
a
place
to
something
opposed
to
someplace
else,
number,
two
to
probe
the
parapet
and
how
that
either
enhances
or
doesn't
number
three
we've
agreed
on
the
sign.
So
I
think
what
what
are
the
commitments
on
walls
and
berms,
regardless
of
the
other
things,
because
there
wasn't,
I
didn't
get
any
thing
there
and
I
think
the
the
one.
L
L
L
Those
are
questions
that
I've
heard
tonight
that
I
didn't
feel
there
may
be
a
depth
of
knowledge
on
the
staff
they're
going
to
say
that's
a
bunch
of
that's
easy
stuff
smith,
in
which
case
I'll
take
it,
but
I
I
feel
the
need
to
be
more
certain
about
those
things
given
what
I
thought
was
the
legitimate
concerns
raised
by
the
neighbors
and,
frankly,
the
way
they
they
presented.
Their
concerns
has
persuaded
me
they're,
not.
F
L
A
And
I
would
add
to
that.
I
think
that
what
needs
some
more
clarity
is
the
issue
in
terms
of
the
arroyo's
setback,
because
it
seems
it's
changed
from
25
feet
from
some
place
to
12
feet
from
some
place,
and
I
think
that
makes
a
difference
in
terms
of
how
many
parking
spaces
might
be
lost.
So
I
think
that
clarification,
the
applicant
working
with
the
city
engineer.
I
think
that
could
be
helpful.
A
A
I
think,
commissioner
ineos
it
might
be
easier
not
to
do
the
development
plan
at
this
point
in
time,
because
the
development
plan
has
in
it
the
two
variances
and
so
it
it
might
be
better
to
wait
and
address
that
after
we
deal
with
have
more
information
on
the
variances.
T
I,
I
would
just
say
I'll,
certainly
defer
to
you.
It
was
my
understanding
from
the
initial
presentation
by
the
by
the
city
that
each
of
those
recommendations
would
be
taken
separately
and
therefore
the
development
plan
does
not
depend
on
the
approval
or
denial
of
the
variance
on
the
height
or
the
slope.
A
And
I
could
be
wrong
so
could
staff
clarify
please.
Q
Madam
chair
commissioner,
hennessey
to
clarify
you
can
approve
the
development
plan
without
the
variances
again,
I
stress
that
we
would
have
to
do
conditions,
as
madam
chair
just
explained.
Q
I
would
recommend
that
you
know
if
we're
going
that
route
and
if
we're,
if
it.
Q
You
want
to
delay
it
to
maybe
a
mid-month
meeting
if
that,
if
we're
just
going
to
be
back
here
again,
perhaps
we
could
do
a
preliminary
development
plan
approval
subject
to
them
coming
back
with?
Q
Well,
let's
see
you
you,
you
preliminary
approval
either
come
back
with
a
better,
a
different
design
that
does
any
variances
or
we
come
back
and
decide
the
variances
next
meeting
and
then
decide
whether
or
not
you're
going
to
get
final
approval
of
the
development
plan
with
the
variances
or
with
the
condition
that
they
cannot
have
those
variances
hope
that
makes
sense.
A
It
does
sort
of
sort
of
I'm
maggie.
Yes,.
P
Madam
chair,
I
have
pat
fagali
our
assistant
counsel,
who's
raised
her
hand
and
wants
to
add
to
this
conversation.
That
could
be
helpful.
Thank.
A
AA
Chair
kyle,
commissioners,
I
I
think
if,
if
you
were
going
to
delay
some
of
the
votes,
it
might
make
sense
because
there
are
going
to
need
to
be
conditions
to
delay
all
of
them.
I
think
it
would.
It
would
be
simpler
and
that
way
you
could
have
all
the
conditions
at
once.
X
A
question
along
the
lines
that
that
daniel
was
just
talking
about
and
that
you
all
were
talking
about.
If
there
was
a
preliminary
approval,
then,
in
order
to
get
a
final,
they
would
have
to
redesign.
And
if
that
is
that?
What?
What
you're
talking
about.
A
Q
I
I
think
that,
and
that
would
allow
that
master
plan
amendment
to
move
forward
to
governing
body
in
a
more
expeditious
way.
L
Q
Sorry,
commissioner
smith,
I
I
I
was
understanding
that
pat
was
referring
to
delaying
the
development
and
variances
together.
AA
Yeah
you
could
you
could
do
the
master
plan
now,
where
you
could
do
them
all
together.
The
master
plan,
I
guess,
would
not
have
anything
that
would
be
dependent
on
the
variance,
although,
if,
if
the
commission
then
were
to
deny
the
development
plan,
it
could
be
a
little
messy
so
that
that's
a
conversation.
A
And
I
think
we
need
to
keep
in
mind.
We
just
recommend
on
the
master
plan.
The
council
approves
the
master
plan,
so
it
might
make
sense
for
us
to
recommend
that
so
that
you
guys
can
move
along
to
council
on
that
issue,
and
then
we
can
deal
with
the
more
technical
development
plan
and
the
variances
does
that
make
sense.
H
Sure
could
I
ask
a
question
so
at
first
it
seemed
like
we
were
talking
about
more
information.
Yes,.
H
That's
to
me
a
much
different
thing
than
additional
information
as
to
why
they're
needed
so
are
we
asking
for
both.
A
H
A
Doing
is
sort
of
throwing
some
comments
out
and
concerns
and
hoping
that
the
applicant
will
get
together
with
the
city
and
sort
of
address
issues
like
equipment
on
the
roof.
Can
it
be
someplace
else?
What
are
the
parapets?
Like
the
you
know,
the
building.
A
X
X
Matt,
I'm
sure
thank
you
very
much
for
giving
us
a
moment
to
speak.
We
would
prefer
that
you
do
the
whole
thing
as
a
package
and
let
us
get
if
you
need
more
information,
then
you
get
all
the
information
and
then
you
can
say
yeah.
The
master
plan
know
the
development
planner
yeah
the
master
plan.
Yes,
the
development,
no
variances
or
you
know,
do
one
big
package
in
that
way.
We
all
know
where
we're
standing,
that's
where
we'd
like
to
be,
and
thank
you
very
much
for
giving
us
a
chance
to
let
in.
F
D
Is
a
deferral
of
all
four
cases
to
a
date
uncertain.
AA
I
believe
it
would
be
a
postponement
and
it
would
be
preferred
to
be
to
a
date
certain.
Otherwise
we
need
to
re-notice
so
a
date
certain
would
be
preferable
either.
J
E
Q
Madam
chair,
if
I
may
make
a
suggestion
or
standing
mid-month
meeting
the
21st,
we
can
schedule
for
that
meeting.
If
we'd
like
the.
A
L
That
that
is
literally
two
weeks
away,
madam
chair
and
I
could
we
say
to
the
first
meeting
in
august.
L
A
U
I'm
out
of
not
in
the
country
the
first
meeting
in
august,
so
we
will
be
prepared
in
two
weeks.
We
have
no
issue
with
two
weeks
at
all.
We
will
have
everything
you
need.
L
X
And
the
schedule,
if
we
agree
to
get
daniel
his
information,
that
we
can
answer
the
specific
questions
we
wrote
them
down
as
you
went
through
them,
address
them
and
if
it
needs
information
we'll
get
them
to
daniel.
When
do
you
need
them
in
so
that
you
can
get
them
to
the
planning
commission.
X
Just
so
long
as
we're
not
penalized,
if
we
have
to
show
up
that
night
and
give
you
some
information,
we
will
get
daniel
everything.
We
can
get
him
within
the
time
frame,
so
he
can
get
it
to
your
into
your
packet,
and
I
just
want
to
if
we
have
to
present
things
that
night
we'll
do
that
as
well,
but
we'll
get
him
everything
we
can
it'll
be
the
monday
before.
So
we'll
get
our
information
to
the
monday
before
all
right.
Thank.
D
Thank
you
ma'am
sure
in
the
in
the
matter
of
cases
2020
to
5205,
5206,
5208
and
5209
motion
for
a
deferral
to
july
20
was
it
21st,
21st
2022.
B
A
Thank
you
for
a
very
good
presentation
and
thank
you,
the
public
for
very
good
comments,
very
thoughtful
comments.
We'll
move
now
to.
Q
Q
So
the
next
case
is
case:
2022-5397.
Q
Q
It's
an
extended
stay
hotel
that
is
being
converted
into
a
well
has
been
converted
into
a
multi-family
residential
community
that
is
partially
affordable,
housing
and
partially
supportive
housing
for
those
at
risk
of
homelessness.
So
the
two
cases
at
hand
are
a
development
plan
amendment
as
well
as
a
re-zoning.
Q
Q
As
you
probably
know,
the
santa
fe
streets
were
converted
into
a
residential
community
during
the
covet
19
pandemic,
as
emergency
housing
for
people
who
were
at
risk
of
becoming
homeless.
So
the
city
at
that
time
or
the
applicants
at
the
time
did
not
receive
land
youth
approvals
because
of
the
emergency
proclamation.
Q
And
now
we
are
going
back
to
approve
this
development
or
reuse
of
the
development
to
make
it
permanent.
Q
So
tonight
you
would
be
approving
the
development
plan
amendment,
which
would
include
a
parking
demand
study
that
the
applications
provided
that
it
that
did
does
reduce
or
ask
to
reduce
their
parking
requirement.
And
then
you
would
also
approve
the
rezoning
recommendation
to
the
city
council
or
the
governing
body
for
final
approval.
Q
Q
The
second
request
is
for
the
rezoning
out
of
the
overlay
district
so
that
they
can
return
to
the
underlying
zoning
of
the
sc1
district.
So
you'll
see
here
that
the
project
already
meets
most
of
the
requirements,
designing
requirements
for
both
the
sc1
and
the
overlay
district.
However,
the
density
is
not
met.
Q
I
wanted
to
address
the
parking
reduction,
because
this
is
a
little
different.
We
do
have
a
provision
for
applicants
to
reduce
their
parking
requirements
with
a
parking
demand
analysis
study.
Q
This
was
submitted
to
reduce
their
parking
demand
by
23
spaces
and
they
at
the
demand
analysis
is
in
your
application
materials,
but
as
the
language
department
and
the
mpo
staff
has
reviewed
it
and
determined
that
we
recommend
that
it
should
be
granted
along
with
the
development
plan
amendment
because
of
the
way
the
particular
use
of
the
of
the
residential
suites
and
its
proximity
to
alternative
transportation
among
other
issue
other
justifications.
Q
A
U
I
am
still
jennifer
jenkins
with
jenkins
gavin
and
I'm
going.
I
do
have
a
presentation,
but
I'm
going
to
try
to
be
as
brief
as
possible,
but
before
I
get
started,
we
I'm
here
this
evening
on
behalf
of
santa
fe,
suites
and
community
solutions
and
in
requests
for
a
development
plan
amendment
and
a
rezone
request.
But
I
would
like
to
invite
a
member
of
the
community
solutions
team
and
is
sarai.
Is
she
up
if
she
could
unmute
herself
and
introduce
herself?
O
Hi,
can
you
guys
hear
me
we
can
okay
good
evening.
Thank
you,
jennifer
and
team
thanks
to
the
others.
B
O
You,
okay
again,
thank
you,
everyone
for
being
here
this
evening
and
for
your
time
my
name
is
roy
williams
and
I'm
joined
by
my
colleague
dave
foster,
who
leads
our
real
estate
work.
We
are,
as
jennifer
said,
representatives
of
the
owners
of
santa
fe
suites
vincent's
legacy,
who
is
a
local
entity
of
community
solutions
which
is
a
national
nonprofit
with
a
mission
to
measurably,
reduce
and
create
lasting
end
to
homelessness.
O
As
was
said,
this
is
123
room,
studio
apartment
complex
that
helps
to
address
the
housing
crisis,
resulting
from
ongoing
copa,
19
pandemic
and
accelerate
disease
efforts
to
end
homelessness.
You've.
You
will
hear-
or
you've
heard
now,
that
we
are
here
today
to
get
the
suites
rezoned
as
multi-family
in
order
to
secure
a
federal,
hud
loan
which
would
provide
long-term
favorable
loan
terms
and
allow
us
to
bring
in
more
capital
for
various
approvals.
O
If
he's
still
in
the
audience,
I'm
not
sure
you
may
hear
later
from
edward
archuletto
with
saint
elizabeth
shelter,
they
are
our
partner
with
the
project
whose
team
provides
a
tremendous
amount
of
supportive
services
through
on-site
case
management
to
many
of
our
residents,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
I
emphasize
that
the
santa
fe
suite
is
not
a
homeless
shelter.
It
is
not
transitional
housing,
it's
not
even
100
supportive
housing
project.
O
We
also
have
a
partnership
with
the
cancer
foundation
of
foreign
mexico
that
has
a
block
of
six
units
leased
for
homeless
and
low-income
cancer
patients,
which
enables
them
to
stay
nearby
while
receiving
treatment
next
door
at
the
cancer
center.
Our
property
management
team
works
in
direct
coordination
with
our
case
managers,
with
the
aim
to
be
approachable,
compassionate
and
professional,
and
that
includes
holding
all
of
our
tenants
accountable
for
high
standards
of
living.
O
We
want
to
ensure
that
project
investments
are
not
only
physical
with
items
such
as
unit
upgrades
and
site
improvements,
etc,
but
also
include
investments
into
the
livelihoods
of
our
residents,
and
I
just
want
to
end
with
something
that
my
colleague
sweta
patel
impressed
upon
us
at
our
neighborhood
meeting
that
we
should
really
all
feel
outraged
by
homelessness.
We
should
feel
outraged
that
not
everyone
has
equitable
access
to
safe,
stable,
permanent,
high-quality,
affordable
housing
because
housing
shortages
and
discriminatory
policies.
O
U
So
again,
here
on
behalf
of
community
solutions,
you
just
heard
from
sarai
williams,
civil
engineering
services
provided
locally
by
santa
fe
engineering.
Our
parking
consultant
is
bohan
in
houston
and
then,
of
course
daniel
is
our
city
staff
member.
U
So
you
already
heard
a
little
bit
of
the
background
that
community
solutions,
partnered
with
the
city
of
santa
fe
to
leverage,
cares,
act,
funding
to
acquire
the
property
and
convert
it
into
much
needed
emergency
housing
and
the
project
comprises
123
homes,
there's
122
studios
and
one
one
bedroom,
two
of
the
units
reserved
for
staff
and
as
sir
I
mentioned,
we
partner
with
the
cancer
foundation
of
new
mexico
to
provide
six
units
for
low-income
patients
accessing
services
at
the
adjacent
cancer
center.
U
So
interesting,
all
these
things
coming
together
at
once
in
the
same
hearing
and
then,
as
she
mentioned,
fifty
percent
of
the
residents
do
receive
supportive
services,
but
fifty
percent
of
the
residents
are
just
our
local
workforce,
so
it
is
a
diverse
mixed
income
community.
U
So
the
santa
fe
suites
is
part
of
an
overall
development
plan
for
the
shopping
center.
U
You
know
where
albertsons
is
and
all
those
other
businesses,
and
so
we
are
amending
that
development
plan
in
order
just
to
change
the
use
of
this
site
from
from
a
hotel
to
a
residential
community
and
because
of
the
density
limitations
of
the
south
central
highway
corridor,
which
does
have
a
limitation
of
21
dwellings
per
acre
that
the
only
way
to
address
the
existing
density,
we're
not
adding
any
units,
we've
actually
reduced
it
from
128
hotel
rooms
that
were
there
originally
and
the
only
way
the
only
path
we
have
to
legalize.
U
The
existing
density
is
to
carve
this
property
out
of
the
highway
corridor,
so
that
is
a
rezoning
action
that
will
go
forward
to
the
governing
body.
So
this
is
the
subject
property.
It
has
this
odd
little
kind
of
flag
that
runs
along
the
saint
francis
right-of-way,
and
you
can
see
the
property
here
and
just
north.
That's
the
albertsons
building
there,
that
is,
the
the
cancer
center
there
and
other
retail
and
restaurant
facilities
and
other
medical
facilities
across
the
street.
U
So
the
property
is
owned.
Shopping
center
and
multi-family
is
permissible
use
in
a
shopping
center
zone
and,
as
you
can
see,
we
are
part
of
the
south
central
highway
corridor
overlay
and
then
zooming
in
on
the
property.
You
can
see,
there's
a
series
of
eight
residential
buildings
and
then
a
kind
of
a
common
community
building
in
the
center.
We
are
adjacent
to
an
arroyo
that
is
overlaid
with
a
fema,
floodplain
and,
and
so
all
the
improvements
are
existing.
U
There
have
already
been
improvements
to
the
property
relative
to
converting
the
units
and
doing
some
upgrading
units
for
housing
purposes,
creating
communal
and
community
space,
but
there
are
there's
more
in
the
works
in
terms
of
more
capital
improvements
to
the
property,
and
so
this
is
the
development
plan
that
we're
amending
and
as
daniel
mentioned,
this
amendment
only
impacts
these
parcels
and
so
we're
making
that
that
very
clear
on
the
development
plan
that
this
amendment
doesn't
impact
any
of
the
other
development.
U
And
so
so,
how
do
so?
We
arrived
at
the
density
of
so,
as
alexander
mentioned,
her
presentation
earlier,
that
was
wonderful,
serendipitous
and
that
she
was
making
that
presentation
this
evening.
There
is
a
15
density
bonus
for
affordable
housing.
So
when
you
add
that
to
the
limitation
in
the
highway
corridor,
that
puts
you
just
a
little
over
24
dwellings
per
acre
and
because
we
do
have
blood
plain
on
the
property,
we
actually
have
to
subtract
the
floodplain,
so
you
can't
use
that
acreage
to
calculate
density.
U
U
U
Our
building
height
is
compliant
and
under
the
25
foot
maximum
in
the
highway
corridor,
and
we
we
there's
a
minimum
50
foot
setback
from
saint
francis.
U
We
actually
have
120
foot
set
back
from
saint
francis,
so
we're
compliant
with
all
of
those
provisions
of
the
highway
corridor,
as
well
as
the
underlying
zoning,
and
so
the
only
difference
is
is
in
the
residential
density,
and
so
this
just
summarizes
those
elements
of
the
highway
corridor
that
we
do
comply
with
and
also
as
angel
mentioned,
we
did
submit
a
parking
demand
analysis
in
order
to
get
an
approval
for
the
existing
parking
supply
on
the
property.
U
There's
no
additional
space
within
the
property
to
add
more
parking
and
the
property
has
been
occupied
and
operating
as
a
residential
community
for
a
year
and
a
half
we've
had
no
issues
with
parking,
and
so
the
parking
study
addressed.
You
know,
good
access
to
transportation,
alternatives,
there's
a
bus,
stop
right
on
zia.
U
The
train
is
right
across
the
road,
the
the
royal
chumiso
trail
and
the
trail
along
st
francis,
that
is
all
right
out
there
back
door
and
so
there's
great
multimodal
opportunities
here
and
with
the
population
that
we're
serving
there
is
a
lower
percentage
of
car
ownership.
So,
for
these
reasons,
staff
is
recommending
approval
of
our
parking
reduction
and
alexander
spoke
earlier
about
the
investments
that
this
city
makes
through
their
affordable
housing
trust
fund.
U
Well,
santa
fe
suites
was
awarded
910
000
in
this
last
round
of
grants
in
order
to
invest
into
additional
capital
improvements
in
the
property
which
we're
really
excited
about,
and
and
as
sir
I
mentioned,
the
key
purpose
of
these
entitlements
besides
just
following
the
regulations
and
giving
the
entitlements
is
that
it's
going
to
tear
us
up
for
some
very
favorable
long-term
hud
financing
for
the
project,
which
is
also
going
to
free
up
additional
capital
to
continue
to
improve
and
upgrade
the
property
and
the
living
experience
for
the
residents.
B
Y
My
name
is
edward
archuleta
804,
madam
allergies,
commissioners,
my
name
is
edward
archletta
and
I'm
the
executive
director
of
saint
elizabeth
shelters
and
supportive
housing.
As
you
heard
during
the
presentation,
we
provide
support
services
for
the
santa
fe
suites
on
site.
We
have
two
program:
managers,
a
licensed,
therapist,
a
licensed
social
worker
and
a
case
manager
later
this
summer,
we'll
be
hiring
a
behavioral
health
crisis,
clinician
and
a
peer
support
worker.
I
think
this
shows
we
are
truly
dedicated
to
the
mental
and
physical
well-being
of
our
residents.
Y
Y
G
Rick
martial
725
missile
road.
I
can't
support
this
project,
but
there's
one
problem
that
I
really
have
with
this
project
and
that
part
of
that
problem
is
that
you're
using
a
text
amendment
to
to
resolve
out
of
the
same
prices
right
corridor.
The
corridor
is,
was
there
was
put
in
place
by
a
lot
of
people
and
was
there
for
a
reason,
we're
not
going
to
use
that
corridor
any
more
than
just
gut
it.
G
You
know
the
last
case
you
did
you
did
it
through
a
variance
to
to
let
them
do
what
they
needed,
but
removing
removing
these
guys
from
the
corridor.
You
did
that
they
did
that
with
the
zia
station
they
removed,
remove
themselves
out
of
the
corners
it's
a
corridor
in
place
for
a
reason.
That's
to
protect
our
gateways,
our
view
size
and
everything.
I
know.
G
G
Corridor
in
all
the
rest
of
the
corridors
in
the
city,
we're
not
going
to
back
it
up.
You
know,
let's
think,
of
a
better
way.
We
can
do
it
so
that
they
can
have
what
they
need
without
having
to
tear
up
these
corridors.
You
know,
I
think,
there's
other
there's
the
other
easier
ways
to
do
this.
Instead
of
using
the
text
amendment,
which
the
text
amendment
does
is
just
say,.
G
To
do
it,
I
mean,
for
example,
if
somebody
doesn't
want
to
be
in
the
historic
district,
they
can
almost
use
the
same
thing,
so
we're
setting
ourselves
up
for
the
same
thing
not
to
be
in
the
in
the
historic
districts
you
know
by
using
the
texture
map
by
getting
others.
So
I
just
think
that
I
support
the
project,
but
the
the
but
removing
them
from
the
same
prices
right
quarter
is
the
wrong
way
to
go.
G
G
Texas
remember
to
remove
themselves
from
the
corridor,
and
once
again,
what
are
we,
what
are
they
there
for
we're
not
going
to
bail?
Thank
you.
A
Any
other
public
comment:
do
we
have
people
on
zoom.
A
Okay,
so
we
this
will
close
the
public
hearing
public
part
of
the
meeting,
and
I
have
a
question.
Why?
So,
why
is
this
being
done
by
rezoning
as
opposed
to
variance
because
couldn't
I
mean
wouldn't,
if
it's
rezoned
out,
then
I'm
assuming
the
height
restriction
wouldn't
still
stay
in
effect,
and
so
they
would
have
the
right
to
add
a
third
story
on.
Q
Bit
of
turmeric,
it's
quite
simple:
actually
you
can
have
a
variance
to
density.
The
variances
can
only
cannot
apply
to
the
intensity
of
a
project.
Q
They
can
only
apply
to
dimensional
standards
generally,
so
you,
you
cannot
ask
for
a
variance
to
density
and
that
that
avenue
was
one
of
the
very
first
things
that
the
applicants
requested
and
we
had
to
say
no,
and
I
would
just
add
that
we
looked
at
a
variety
of
avenues,
including
some
unconventional
ones,
and
the
zoning
was
was
the
only
real
legal
way
to
make
this
work.
D
You,
madam
chair
question
for
mr
alvarado
or
staff
mr
martinez
mentioned.
D
Maybe
there's
some
other
way
to
do
this
other
means
to
these
ends.
Is
it
possible,
for
example,
to
not
change
the
overly
zone,
but
actually
to
amend
the
overlay
zone
to
allow
this
specific
use
in
density,
for
example?
That
way
we
would
we
would
keep
the
zone
in
place,
which
is
is,
is
maybe
important
very
important,
but
we
wouldn't
it's
not.
Q
Madam
cherica,
commissioner
public,
I
do
believe
that
is
a
possibility,
although
that's
not
what's
being
requested
tonight,
so
it
would
have
to
be
another
process.
I
believe
we
talked
about
that
option
and
it
was
decided
this
was
more
favorable.
Maybe
you
have
another
regulation.
U
F
U
Doing
a
development
plan,
so
this
body
has
the
ability
to
add
conditions
to
the
development
plan,
so
conditions
could
be
out
of
a
development
plan
that
mirror
the
highway
corridor
in
terms
of
maximum
height
in
terms
of
the
setback
from
saint
francis
and
in
terms
of
the
provision
for
50
open
space.
So
that
is
another
avenue
to
preserve
those
components
of
the
corridor
that
we
are
already
in
compliance
with.
U
U
F
D
One
in
the
in.
D
Of
case
2022-53.
D
D
Rezoning
goes
to
governing
body
yeah,
that's
I
just
had
them
backwards.
Okay,
recommend
approval
of
the
development
plan
and,
with
regard
to
the
rezoning
recommended
approval
of.
D
A
And
what
about
the
additional
conditions
on
in
the
development
plan
that
the
height
not
exceed
25
feet?
At
the
setbacks?
Be
more
no
more
than
50
feet.
The
open
space,
the
50
percent.
D
E
I'm
chair,
commissioner
pava.
I
believe
you
should
add,
subject
to
conditions
of
approval
of
technical
corrections
outlining
the
report
as
well.
In
your
motion.
A
And
I
think
we
should
note
that
the
applicant
has
agreed
to
the
new
conditions
concerning
heights
setback
in
open
space
that
we
just
recited
that
they're
in
agreement
with
that
being
placed
on
the
flat.
Q
And
I'm
sure,
to
clarify
the
conditions
of
approval
would
specify
that
the
other
restrictions
would
mirror
the
overlay
and
the
only
difference
would
be
the
density.
B
A
So
the
next
is
matters
from
the
commission,
but
I
think
also
matters
from
staff.
But
do
we
do
commission
first?
I
guess.